< 1377993761 429878 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Buckle up, boys. This jump leads to space, and that's really high." < 1377994163 5779 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's no treaty, is there? < 1377994172 234187 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1377994174 932947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there is < 1377994187 212461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many treaties, Roujo < 1377994241 27086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was thinking of the Hexham one < 1377994244 737215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i may have confused Taneb with the topic. Which ones? of you {is,are} in Lachine again? < 1377994249 586190 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am < 1377994282 623823 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I live there. I'm at my parents' now =P < 1377994530 973279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are hexham, lachine and helsinki in a line < 1377994620 235596 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1377994789 904935 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some topology, maybe < 1377995039 431789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym "metric" < 1377995061 622829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a metric sufficient for lines < 1377995143 762578 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what sounds better: "topology" or "metric" < 1377995145 228198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, geodesics < 1377995145 434425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rest my case. < 1377995196 166172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the problem is that the usual topology on a euclidean space doesn't contain enough information to define the usual lines. < 1377995229 621551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while metric is enough to define lines as geodesics. < 1377995259 395494 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a boring problem < 1377995392 795256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, to put it differently, you can find a diffeomorphism from a sphere to itself that (by consequence of the definition) preserves the topology and maps any finite set of points you want to a great circle. < 1377995416 11703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm seeing a lot of words here that aren't "topology" < 1377995529 221040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...whatever, you're just joking anyway. < 1377995544 32845 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1377995617 784796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'll mention the old chestnut: a topologist is someone who cannot see the difference between his donut and his coffee cup. < 1377996977 987691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I haven't seen you say hth for a while... Is there a treaty for that too? < 1377997006 461640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, there's an irssi script < 1377997014 275594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1377997023 15226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott wrote it < 1377997033 171629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prevents you from saying it? =P < 1377997047 574076 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is one of those weird people that needs computers to stop him from doing simple things, sometimes. < 1377997049 306981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it puts it at the end of all his lines < 1377997050 291636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it censors hth from the end of lines. < 1377997056 2087 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice =P < 1377997156 371764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you said there was a script, I assumed it was on his end < 1377997166 539179 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :À la "you get a kick if you say it" < 1377997265 861662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...don't give him ideas. < 1377997296 976943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I have an idea for you, but oerjan doesn't want to tell you. Just saying. < 1377997297 155435 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377997303 951105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1377997305 507364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1377997307 257207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't want me* < 1377997349 58055 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott Actually, he just doesn't want me to tell you. Although my guess is that he doesn't want to tell you either. < 1377997349 275618 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1377997356 496539 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1377997360 135998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lambdabot Thanks < 1377997360 314132 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1377997361 748194 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377997473 292841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: He'll know now, hth < 1377997534 160366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok i'll just threaten with turning off the script. < 1377997574 516077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe he'll kick everyone _else_ instead, because hey, i've got a script < 1377997574 989489 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1377997581 567729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that would be nice < 1377997582 501017 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1377997586 917201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME TO GO HOME < 1377997712 783867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOULD YOU LIKE A KICK OUT THE DOOR < 1377999061 746787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1377999071 326302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :evening < 1377999079 572647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon it will be evening < 1377999108 887706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1377999308 415168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1377999310 561053 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1377999732 267621 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p5B02DEDC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0.1/20130814063812] < 1377999732 483324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The temple where my D&D character worships is probably the strangest one. (We didn't find it yet.) < 1377999995 235531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shachaf < 1377999997 748738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's your day? < 1378000374 81167 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :day seems reasonable < 1378000398 943585 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378000422 11820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran into Blaketh < 1378000449 422695 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thaketh < 1378000465 297873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it looks like Gracenotes and i will be in sf tomorrow?? < 1378000465 594569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1378000471 738604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you plan to run into him? < 1378000473 426347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: oh, cool < 1378000475 912762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378000483 932042 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he planned to run into me but i doubt it < 1378000509 203576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378000515 372001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would not be entirely surprised < 1378000518 92983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where were you? < 1378000571 670247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mountain view < 1378000589 672972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will feed your coworker's cats soon < 1378000594 49819 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it turns out < 1378000668 465530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which coworker? < 1378000692 520587 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjc < 1378000701 176879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have plans tomorrow of some kind < 1378000713 598238 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i could try to bring the previously-mentioned finnish throwing game < 1378000717 607242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it's fallen apart a bit < 1378000741 88891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have plans, let's meet up and play this game < 1378000786 228172 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not entirely sure whether i'll be able to bring it as it is but i can try < 1378000791 681068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1378000826 74974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ☝ < 1378000865 11266 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378000922 383701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will vanish for a bit in a bit.
< 1378000933 325907 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378002612 734301 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378003787 228761 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378003842 182867 :noooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378004118 764280 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378004135 756262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Noyt < 1378004229 516568 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378004231 215843 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378004488 594536 :noooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Quit: noooodl < 1378004502 525616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've slisted multiple times in one day < 1378004505 93974 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet no olists < 1378004509 963011 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the preferential treatment? < 1378006591 12037 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378006899 551865 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/thomastechsoft3d/yesno/blob/master/Main.hs < 1378007927 312017 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378008353 569305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the information, how accurate do you think my analysis about the chances of beating the demon are? < 1378011469 304711 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378012252 39931 :atehwa!~atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378012287 244043 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist boon < 1378012288 648652 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist boon: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378013697 119273 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1378017834 242892 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378018565 759308 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378019204 333756 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378019446 412056 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378019558 734529 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378019587 266558 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378019980 162411 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist strike < 1378019984 425521 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist strike: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378019998 940597 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1378019999 652209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day of the bazillion slists < 1378020002 310982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND NO OLISTS < 1378020043 760902 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dark day for all of humankind < 1378020046 257450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's just the way it is today. What do you want me to do, sue you until you fix it? < 1378020064 359019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whom, me? < 1378020068 721777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Wrong. Not all of humankind lives in the same timezone. < 1378020080 817729 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dark day for some of humankind < 1378020085 880701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378020086 59339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a dark night for the rest < 1378020099 590383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but night is usually dark so why mention it?) < 1378020114 144416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all the rest are night < 1378020207 924053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are wrong! < 1378020261 78205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me? < 1378020262 591298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two things you have to stop being: [1] humanist [2] never knowing what time it is during your entire lifetime < 1378020305 862793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You also have to stop being the third thing. < 1378020373 319182 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote a dark day for all of humankind Bike: Wrong. Not all of humankind lives in the same timezone. a dark day for some of humankind OK < 1378020377 445638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1096) a dark day for all of humankind Bike: Wrong. Not all of humankind lives in the same timezone. a dark day for some of humankind OK < 1378020506 849973 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1378020518 128785 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer the second Attack on Titan theme tune to the first < 1378020519 552900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's the third thing? < 1378020610 137150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Maybe I will know in the future, but maybe not. < 1378020673 910911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you prefer the third to the second? < 1378020687 940085 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, there is not yet a third < 1378020723 253566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make one. < 1378020787 807199 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, I cannot < 1378022967 242092 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378023842 266213 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378024494 729549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378025248 261628 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378025643 841147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: please set the addressing-people character to : instead of , thx < 1378025648 481165 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no < 1378025664 29463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: imo yes < 1378025669 968985 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The colons make me feel uncomfortable < 1378026343 263738 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1378027377 170483 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: using comma is the third thing < 1378029613 576157 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378031478 205122 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378032145 459003 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378033811 36925 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378033947 331364 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378034173 962869 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1378034339 18803 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378034347 3402 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378034362 26164 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378034732 715077 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378035004 354050 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378035361 306165 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378037032 844374 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378037841 454209 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378039655 831324 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378040674 21589 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378041428 606411 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378042507 974135 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378042531 455377 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome carado < 1378042534 184723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​03c02arad13o: W03elcome to the international hub for esote02ri10c programming l13angua02ge 12design and deployment! For more inf03orm07ation09, 07che07ck out our wiki: http:06//esolangs.org/w08iki10/Main_Page09. (Fo13r t10h07e other11 kind o06f esoterica, t05ry #es04o05teric on i04rc10.da10l03.ne06t.) < 1378042546 36600 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378042550 58501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya ^^ < 1378042554 830520 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the welcome < 1378042562 137207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're, well, welcome < 1378042583 101654 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m amazed to see that this channel seems very active < 1378042585 436652 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: entering infinite loop < 1378042592 17189 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1378042592 880753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1378042600 1256 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : come < 1378042606 358512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1378042619 611475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'ts been quiet since 03 this morning < 1378042620 108612 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome Roujo < 1378042626 893768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks =P < 1378042848 221054 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :carado: so what do we owe the pleasure to? < 1378042920 732362 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, I’ve liked esoteric languages for a while now, I made a probably-already-made lambda-calculus esoteric language interpreter < 1378042950 664178 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.awesom.eu/kni < 1378043025 884500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1378043030 599321 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you really were new ^^ < 1378043044 800121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to `relcome people without being sure if they're new or not < 1378043049 792858 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I’ve been idling for a while now < 1378043054 416201 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378043056 217735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1378043063 799128 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378043075 863946 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have been `relcome’d two or three times now :) < 1378043101 122242 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I’ve never really spoken, only read the channel from time to time. < 1378043128 565519 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378043202 232165 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mainly because I’m no that comfortable with english, being french) < 1378043255 153402 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay, some very nice people are french < 1378044677 292628 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378045098 759413 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378045111 948340 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you create a program which can build, print and calculate integer equations? It must support: 1. Addition 2. Multiplication 3. Division 4. Subtraction 5. Negation 6. Ternary < 1378045130 279858 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a partial example of my Ocaml solution which builds this integer equation. let ans = Unary( Negative, Multi( Value 10, Ternary(Value 10, Greater, Value 12, Value 34, Value 45)));; < 1378045148 625328 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program will then calculate and display the integer equation. -450 = -(10 * (10 > 12 ? 34 : 45)) < 1378045418 591217 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :daakl: are you mafingre? < 1378045460 230549 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it matter? < 1378045469 984975 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because mafingre is banned, so you would be ban evading < 1378045488 620496 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a very similar IP (and the same ISP) as lekrel yesterday, who ignored this question < 1378045498 459266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I suppose your response is basically confirmation in itself, unless you actually deny it? < 1378045511 287767 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What is a similar IP supposed to mean? < 1378045521 294412 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And same ISP? < 1378045526 769243 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was mafingres ISP? < 1378045544 512710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means that, combined with very similar behaviour (especially dodging questions about who you are), I'm pretty confident you are the same person < 1378045569 959652 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mafingre's ISP was not identical to yours; however, it was in the same country, and you may be using some form of mobile internet from the looks of the whois result < 1378045570 138892 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Similar to what? < 1378045589 972306 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ok, I am in the same country with 22 million other people < 1378045593 762924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm wondering why you wouldn't just say "no". do you deny that you are mafingre? yes or no < 1378045611 154327 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I was lekrel from yesterday < 1378045619 761920 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do not know who mafingre is < 1378045631 929518 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but do you deny that you are the same person as them? < 1378045646 262012 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I ask "Does it matter" because you asked exactly the same question yesterday < 1378045651 747415 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As whom? < 1378045691 683894 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'd generally expect someone who doesn't know who mafingre is, and isn't them, to have an easier time of sending a message like "no, I am not the same person that used the nick 'mafingre' in the past" to the channel < 1378045732 855089 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never even heard of a mafingre < 1378045746 40655 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :First time in this channel was yesterday < 1378045769 817184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. I don't really believe you, but ok. < 1378045812 954222 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so back to your question < 1378045817 896265 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever floats your boat, now back on topic < 1378045851 810463 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you said wasn't actually on-topic here, to be pedantic, but ok. < 1378045853 594669 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest part in making a calculator is usually parsing the expression < 1378045869 123092 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did my version in oCaml < 1378045872 552649 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your program doesn't have to do that, since the expression is already parsed < 1378045949 606403 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/EaXkL3nt < 1378045969 677191 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :daaki: try the opposite: a program that reads an expression like -(10 * (10 > 12 ? 34 : 45)), and computes the result < 1378046044 817428 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also your ternary actually expects five operands so it should be called pentary:p < 1378046074 359115 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance you can't use it to write stuff like (false ? 3 : 4) < 1378046093 183461 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or (0 ? 3 : 4) if you're using integers as booleans as it does in C < 1378046161 419081 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case <, >, <=, >=, = and != would be arithmetic operators which always yield 0 (for false) or 1 (for true) < 1378046849 778034 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm bored enough for this apparently http://codepad.org/KYMwwi5y < 1378046947 164761 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty board nooodl < 1378046951 72548 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bored < 1378046965 718458 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i forgot to rename it Pentary < 1378046971 499507 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should go to the movies! < 1378047244 5750 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-115-247.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378047379 374424 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378049643 219551 :boily!~boily@dsl-173-206-86-86.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378049863 530640 :boily!~boily@dsl-173-206-86-86.tor.primus.ca QUIT :Client Quit < 1378049971 532761 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily bye boily < 1378050047 898131 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth be told I'm bored as well < 1378050049 420033 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/REDX?ocaml < 1378050458 886629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth be told, you're lying < 1378050498 974107 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1378051048 182118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378051318 957182 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people are < 1378051404 964566 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo38 < 1378051828 933045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1378051836 786501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What question now? < 1378051851 234790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a metaquestion < 1378051867 899829 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1378051882 651998 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why dont you play arkeon zzo38? < 1378051920 379881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I don't know what that is. < 1378052030 264908 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i've already told you about it before < 1378052053 615982 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is mainly the reason, anyways. Other reason is because I forgot. < 1378052076 417747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay. i've reminded you now. < 1378052219 542703 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: http://codepad.org/GZdBEwxq < 1378052234 209785 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I still don't remember. < 1378052396 78035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you heard about arkeon? < 1378052403 857040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: From you. < 1378052422 125290 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh okay. just making sure you don't forget. < 1378052491 352121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't make me remember if I am unaware what that means! < 1378052922 282027 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.hyperfiction.arkeon&hl=en&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Darkeon < 1378052972 941043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that is why. I don't have Google Apps in my computer. < 1378052974 447016 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arkeon is a fast-paced strategy game influenced by traditionnal asbtract games like Chess or Go. < 1378052977 703683 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that sounds cool < 1378052988 455629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose it does. < 1378053185 883605 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkeon < 1378053210 623812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I will look in Wikipedia later perhaps, not right now < 1378053227 530745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now I am playing a Pokemon card game < 1378053624 323786 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378054171 993606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should not necessarily knock out your opponent's cards. I sometimes win by not knocking out opponent's cards when I have a choice. < 1378054246 364594 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like in morris where winning is usually easier if you *don't* capture all the opponent's pawns? < 1378054293 584166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not really. < 1378054367 28706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can win in one of three ways: * Knock out six opponent's pokemons * Leave your opponent with no cards in play * Leave your opponent with no cards in their draw pile < 1378054517 275942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes opponent's cards can help you, such as powers that affect both sides, or a card that cannot attack or retreat, if it is activated they cannot do much. Also, if they already have five bench pokemons then they cannot play another one. This can be used to stall, or to gain position until you do have a better advantage to knock out opponent's cards. < 1378054676 358511 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378054750 514139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your opponent knocks out five of your cards and you knock out none of theirs, they will still lose if they run out of cards in their draw pile before they can knock out one more of your cards. (I ave won in this way before.) < 1378054865 644293 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally work in the headquarters of a Fortune 500 company < 1378054869 42255 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :That feels weird somehow. < 1378055083 149973 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378055092 575159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Are you sure? < 1378055122 450812 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure that I work in the headquarters of a Fortune 500 company, or sure that it feels weird? I'm sure of the former, at least. < 1378055132 697888 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably shouldn't feel weird. < 1378055236 431344 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378055405 277770 :daakl!6570ac5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.172.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378059482 105247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378060205 345146 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378061088 535283 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1378061163 412911 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378061664 898325 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1378062083 312091 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378062494 988199 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378063384 964069 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378063478 297275 :Sgeo_!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1378063560 245093 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1378063810 962006 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378064019 474293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378064294 421081 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378064310 237760 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378066218 253191 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378066424 306271 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378067022 492142 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1378067405 699288 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378067630 342460 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378070670 330866 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1378070694 138076 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1378071110 344530 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick I need a 2009 internet joke < 1378071136 906685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 2009 problems but the internet ain't one. right now, anyway. < 1378071216 383863 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuck norris invented every internet joke. < 1378072686 692879 :mzdravkov!~me@client-73-33-41.speedy-net.bg JOIN :#esoteric < 1378072698 459514 :mzdravkov!~me@client-73-33-41.speedy-net.bg PART :#esoteric < 1378073201 276418 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BANCStar_programming_language < 1378073214 115959 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from charles stross (@cstross) < 1378073216 17399 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0_0 < 1378073217 803603 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my god man < 1378073285 193509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bancstar has been discussed here before < 1378073393 151395 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i only just saw it in his tweetstream < 1378073403 594685 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :baffling that something like that exists for serious < 1378073511 681217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if anyone can figure out the example with only the information given. < 1378073589 340518 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378073699 371421 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378073825 610912 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for this logic gate: 01,10,11=0;00=1 < 1378073837 933107 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I implemented that in AW years ago calling it NAND, but I think I was wrong < 1378073933 652967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be NOR < 1378074034 996728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's NOR < 1378074056 788032 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "a NAND b" means "not (a and b)", so that's "either a is false or b is false" < 1378074104 845477 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yours is "they're both false" and that's "not (a or b)" which is a NOR b; or you could remember it as "neither a NOR b" < 1378074110 343389 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378074191 602805 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs names, just use the truth signature! < 1378074204 836843 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :00 = 1, 01 = 0, 10 = 0, 11 = 0 < 1378074208 997608 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore the signature is 1000! < 1378074221 897315 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually itd probably be better to make the signature 0001 < 1378074307 985033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, if you read NOR backwards, you're not going to think "Who the hell is RON" < 1378074308 211414 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOR still proves that any logic gate can be built, right? < 1378074312 271593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, yes < 1378074318 478654 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOR and NAND are both universal < 1378074335 150488 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: im pretty sure i will < 1378074341 521001 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we ARE in #esoteric, after all! < 1378074343 312953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also dual to each other, so if one is the other has to be < 1378074350 853052 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its in the job description to be obnoxiously obtuse! < 1378074353 125408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, here's a hint, RON stands for Re-Open Nominations < 1378074377 729480 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thats interesting about duality < 1378074484 484858 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't prove fsm though, right? Still need a memory mechanism?? < 1378074513 992447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean < 1378074565 611138 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if I understand your question right, it's kind of like if you were asking "does addition prove mathematics are a finite-state machine?" < 1378074635 474419 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about Active Worlds, and wondering what I need to do to prove that a finite-state machine can be built. < 1378074679 224946 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :building one would be the most explicit way to prove it < 1378074981 730847 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378075127 449537 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378075441 187156 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mightyno9/mighty-no-9 geez this is going fast < 1378075743 432444 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.171.15 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378075894 743249 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378076128 731465 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm a bit scared to learn what you could think NOR universality has to do with finite state machines. < 1378076359 935327 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378076698 263037 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@183.181.16.72 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378076814 209436 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make memory out of logic gates? < 1378076842 673948 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_random-access_memory ? < 1378076861 395085 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_(electronics) I guess < 1378076900 811850 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how you're thinking of them. often when dealing with "logic gates" you're working timelessly < 1378076928 368164 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, sr latch is easy. < 1378077071 709285 :takuin!~takuin@ip68-102-193-66.ks.ok.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378077096 200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Señor Latch < 1378077130 83040 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "social revolutionary" because i'm the wurst. < 1378077169 829616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currywurst?? < 1378077189 169223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm sausage < 1378077241 516975 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: nor being universal means that you can compute any truth table (i.e. function {0,1}^n-> {0,1} for any n) with some network of NOR gates, just to be clear. says nothing about timing < 1378077295 386363 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :n >= 1, i guess < 1378077834 129160 :takuin!~takuin@ip68-102-193-66.ks.ok.cox.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1378078289 299394 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378078291 231970 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378078374 16246 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/museumofcomm/status/374290121610108929/photo/1 < 1378078917 14798 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378079192 917885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the eternal `slist september < 1378079546 358881 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1378080283 194132 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378080295 141002 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378080315 34143 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is one kind of card I made up for Pokemon card game: Put any number of cards from your hand and/or trash with your side cards (you are not allowed to exceed six side cards). < 1378080324 631570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1378081146 942371 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378081384 760466 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378081399 41888 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378082416 767465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my Pokemon card puzzles was made up by FireFly (the rest are made up by me). I would like if someone else can make too. < 1378082607 115199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different TCG can be compared; such as that, Pokemon card is a more positional-oriented game than Magic: the Gathering, it seems. Magic: the Gathering is other (I don't know what words to use). If you have played these games, tell me of your opinion of it? < 1378083065 580200 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1378084675 396846 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net NICK :augur < 1378086173 358696 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378086600 426729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf and I played mölkky in the park < 1378086604 801255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun < 1378086607 666702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are not very good at it < 1378086627 288971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes dogs would come by and steal the pieces and change the state of play < 1378086674 232811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know that game < 1378087223 334310 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378088062 543401 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :positional < 1378088063 37958 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378088105 689809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone said Magic: the Gathering is a more action-sequence-oriented game. < 1378088212 336182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It is more positional because the play depends on the position of active/bench cards, attached energy cards, sleep/confuse/paralyze poison state, number of side cards remaining, number of cards in draw pile, sacrifices, defense, etc < 1378088360 336920 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378088398 303627 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378088415 470114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic: the Gathering involves an entirely different set of tactics. < 1378088499 866991 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378088500 45447 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378088510 180697 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378089118 131275 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378089232 251408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378090098 281724 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378090650 13263 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Excess Flood < 1378091031 545251 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1378092576 778540 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1378093169 181601 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1378093354 277471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1378093612 355166 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1378093635 761299 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b JOIN :#esoteric < 1378093689 914751 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1378093746 960225 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378094221 766421 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a property that Active Worlds and Cloud Party share that Second Life lacks, and I'm not sure what to call it. I almost want to say statelessness, but that's not quite accurate < 1378094268 329919 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In both AW and CP, you can write scripts. AW scripts are client-side, CP scripts are server-side. But they both have the property that, whatever such a script does, it isn't permanent, it can always be reverted instantly to what was actually built in the world < 1378094286 865538 :itwasntme!~itwasntme@unaffiliated/itwasntme JOIN :#esoteric < 1378094287 344703 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Second Life, scripts can move objects permanently, and they don't have an 'origin' location < 1378094480 86629 :itwasntme!~itwasntme@unaffiliated/itwasntme PART :#esoteric < 1378095113 440996 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378096213 878057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the different methods of calculating the probability of hitting yourself with the "DIGGER" card (in the Pokemon card game)? I used one method and someone else used a different method, although both work. Such thing may apply to other things relating to probability, too? (DIGGER: Starting with you, both players take turns tossing a coin, until tails. Does 1 point of damage to the active pokemon card of whoever got tails.) < 1378096233 70448 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enumerating all the different methods seems like folly < 1378096358 40636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I just want to see what methods different people are using. What method did you use? < 1378096528 983020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My own method was to solve P=1/2+(1-P)/2, although someone else used the infinite series instead.) < 1378096566 965686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you use one of these, or something else? < 1378096792 148318 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if P is the probability of hitting your own pokemon < 1378096815 274701 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :then P = 1/2 + 1/4 P < 1378096834 814225 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have three outcomes for the first two flips: you hit your pokemon (1/2), you hit the other pokemon (1/4), you try again < 1378097148 934663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378097184 902691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think of that way, but I can understand it now < 1378097617 784662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I (partially) made up a glossary of Pokemon card puzzle. < 1378097994 613636 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378097996 268229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378098045 246944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a few tactics/strategies/situations that I don't know what they would be called, though. < 1378098069 534953 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the eternal `slist of the spotless mind < 1378098223 955321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used some of the terms from chess, although there are some without corresponding something in the other game. < 1378098233 388213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist yesterday and olist tomorrow. never olist today. < 1378098594 744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please see if I missed anything important or made any other mistakes. < 1378098661 658846 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my approach is similar to the approach used to determine the running time of infinitely recursive algorithms < 1378098669 822380 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1378098674 93588 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/infinitely/arbitrarily/ < 1378098715 575267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: O, that is what it is used for? What is my approach called? < 1378098798 55985 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not quite sure; I think they work out to roughly the same thing < 1378098896 46133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you do get the same answer, and they are both the algebraic solutions. < 1378099069 785938 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, the chinese south-pointing carriage wasn't magnetic < 1378099530 242317 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378100825 139488 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378100942 778258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a designation "communist hand" for certain poker hands. As far as I know, these are all possible communist hands: * A royal flush. * An ace-high straight without three cards of the same suit. * Four of a kind and an ace. * Four aces and a king. < 1378101066 798439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you see the pattern, and do you know if I made a mistake? < 1378101262 424987 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those two questions should never be asked together < 1378101273 981210 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: You are probably correct. < 1378101278 784175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand why. < 1378101623 233353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought of it and I think I have not made a mistake. There is a real pattern having to do with Texas Hold'em. Can you see it? (Maybe 'communist hand' isn't the best name; if you have a better name you can tell me) < 1378102142 157941 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature12148.html < 1378102998 898795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone else figured it out! < 1378103304 129008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a hand such that if the table hand is this, everyone will split the pot evenly? < 1378103321 290580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's necessarily better than any hand you could make using private cards < 1378103325 50712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1378103330 94289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is correct. < 1378103382 275647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1378103386 780427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty good name I think < 1378103408 800586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think so too (although I am not 100% sure) < 1378103431 626102 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see what a mutualist hand is < 1378103451 780451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know; make up something if you have an idea. < 1378103996 843139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know any poker players, ask them if they can figure out the definition of "communist hand" from the enumeration of all of them like I have given. < 1378104083 236248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't so difficult, but that doesn't mean you can figure out right away; some people still make some mistakes when trying to figure it out. < 1378104341 12921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it when you mentioned it was for hold 'em specifically < 1378104363 408637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose that is the hint. < 1378104403 344169 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378105199 928898 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378106578 301964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it difficult if that is not mentioned? < 1378107725 305375 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378107922 862769 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378109628 429471 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378109923 842765 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378111563 611746 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378113187 202710 :hogeyui____!~hogeyuiVP@183.181.16.72 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378113277 442663 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am really happy right now < 1378114081 573112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1378114276 584805 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378114339 613671 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378116826 409683 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378119057 699000 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378120032 255683 :Tom____!565e29b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.94.41.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378120057 735869 :Tom____!565e29b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.94.41.178 PART :#esoteric < 1378120995 773982 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378121858 677317 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1378124036 225754 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378124215 740246 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378125149 879967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, quintopia < 1378125668 530389 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC105E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378126199 724281 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378126290 420224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've made a video response to that office-window timelapse; there's been lots of groups of students wandering around, I think they're having some sort of orientation activities for new people there. < 1378127033 362256 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378127406 344215 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In this episode, they fill up their motorbike with gas!" < 1378127898 478525 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378128596 850224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there was also both sunshine and rain. < 1378128710 721896 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC105E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378130121 698991 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378130203 724960 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378130299 131951 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378130405 744024 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378130444 200615 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection > 1378131225 408362 JOIN :#esoteric > 1378131229 522433 JOIN :#esoteric > 1378131230 32830 JOIN :#esoteric > 1378131265 344216 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378131267 552471 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1378131269 458687 JOIN :#esoteric > 1378131269 974157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378131771 615557 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378132548 399624 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378132893 529678 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378133536 457263 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378134111 374752 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378134787 226738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378135551 899980 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378138582 795288 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378138979 889875 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378140157 230157 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378141377 246094 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378142980 344286 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378143200 930566 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378143934 311341 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378144565 546199 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378145849 666841 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378146024 158676 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible that turing-complete languages need at least 5 rules? (One of the functional complete set [NAND,NOR], which are 4 rules each) plus a halting rule? < 1378146060 480521 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a rule < 1378146089 592352 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rule 'converting' a number of inputs to an output or state < 1378146110 894443 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very vague. anyway, sk calculus has two transition rules, none of which are "a halting rule". < 1378146209 446770 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will read that first, thank you < 1378147436 314216 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378147514 796349 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378148291 123823 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378148803 586034 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378149543 516445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zt, you seem to be very caught up on bit operations; turing complete languages are much broader than that < 1378149577 374568 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378149845 893976 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That is true :/ As I am not yet in a university I try to use things I can easily understand, it is just a great thing to think about < 1378149900 327480 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378150095 952196 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I am bored < 1378150096 261564 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: cool hair.... w.t.f lol...... zac efrons gay located on my b-day. and even if the media bombed our minds with anti-american rhetoric and make a solid max payne < 1378151156 159981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1378151190 208307 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how much better can you do? < 1378151235 838186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: broken!? < 1378151243 21692 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot fungot fungot < 1378151349 813962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: should I make my own mölkky-game < 1378151362 117867 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prior to Volume 17, 1975 this journal was published as Kybernetik." i feel this change was a mistake < 1378151386 512769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$60 seems "a bit steep" even with the nice wood carrying box < 1378151457 37833 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :price for what, a solid max payne? < 1378151529 269351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do it < 1378151729 114393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378151801 339606 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`helloerjan < 1378151802 338692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: helloerjan: not found < 1378152013 218286 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1378152018 950851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who set fungot to youtube < 1378152019 182540 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: kool song, incredible video. it's no longer about the passengers to know. they're hallucinations from the album, going to crash ( with jaybad of course there was nothing supernatural in max payne < 1378152029 476954 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1378152029 626922 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube* < 1378152038 181438 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon < 1378152038 331062 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive) < 1378152045 379766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is this fun? < 1378152045 852393 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: people, vi is from hell with it we've resigned ourselves to its very core. this means it is being lost unless the application for which the resource manager uses in some article al writes: < 1378152062 656633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot speaks out in favour of emacs < 1378152063 46052 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: in the original version of " modern ui", " who ?am ?i" ( " not a bug report), but without binaries ( v only) or filename, one doesn't respond at all. < 1378152068 682887 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a bit gibbrishy < 1378152075 655568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now he's getting existential < 1378152076 298660 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think it may have been me. I apologize in case it was < 1378152079 155379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1378152079 304801 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1378152092 89721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :double the fungot < 1378152092 239669 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's just so stupid that ' stty erase h' has, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, can also be used freely and as to being in a fright. " oh, don't go on and on about < 1378152163 690063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know that limitations of Famicom and other systems can be made into a core gameplay mechanics? < 1378152203 172619 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knownothing. < 1378152216 464221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what would happen if you made the only fungot dataset fungot, kept all the other commands, and made him continuously update the dataset < 1378152216 613971 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov < 1378152221 358927 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11782.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 23.0/20130803193343] < 1378152228 30471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::') < 1378152252 295315 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is such a polite young bot. always helps me with my groceries and assassinations < 1378152252 529233 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, i fnord kara to hold me until i fell over, with much ado. your sister is the better part made mercie, i should think at least, that is expressions which have not been able, to assume responsibilities. he went on, " the conclusion is, then thou, the greatest soldier, de. she wanna be friends, his sta < 1378152298 143211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember when fungot tried to kill me < 1378152298 292932 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover:, so i'd have to consider that although the reduction in actual transportation section from former friend lives, their door had my computer with full u+ support" then they both bowed low. just keep the safe or tub and emptied it does. perhaps you will be thrust with both arms; the blade broke the surface than that acted on by like causes inducing similar modifications. with lynx, she never does < 1378152300 860781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1378152314 485654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how were you going to kill Phantom_Hoover? and why? < 1378152314 635360 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: and it's self-modifying techniques." stop immobilizes and disables you. in these bones, i shall return! by the way, the wings! now this is a way to the ocean palace? < 1378152446 252763 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody about know something about state machine design? < 1378152471 360715 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, i'm trying to identify if the particular thing i'm doing would benefit from that model, but i don't know it in any detail < 1378152512 688993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's the thing you're doing. < 1378152525 779886 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to find a nicer way of dealing with problems in a stateful manner.. that is, i've got a number of steps i want to accomplish, and various error cases that can happen along the way < 1378152541 165887 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the error cases may set off their own group of steps, after which i want to go back 'where i was' < 1378152552 489121 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :various parts may need retries or something like that < 1378152558 490520 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what made me think of it < 1378152577 36472 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently it's kind of a promise-based fluid interface and it doesn't play nice with looping style actions < 1378152610 360775 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the state after a retry identical to the similar statewithout a retry? < 1378152615 923278 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378152633 945896 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not < 1378152637 611574 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i want to give up after x retries < 1378152659 889187 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's mildly gross to do as a regular old state machine diagram. < 1378152675 224194 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of suspected as much < 1378152698 959900 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fairly nice until i got into error cases :P < 1378152713 885668 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just never run into errors. simple < 1378152738 271978 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish it were :) < 1378152752 477673 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :promises may still be .. promising .. lol < 1378152761 156928 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in the way this thing is structured < 1378153361 422124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:20 rust lacks any ability to talk about higher kinds < 1378153361 610394 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:20 so it generally is too crippled for me to write any of my kind of code in < 1378153803 795009 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I thought I was going insane because I remembered shachaf saying that but I couldn't see it < 1378153809 822178 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out I was just scrolled up a little < 1378153861 288162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out Taneb was one pgdn short of a full scrollback < 1378153914 252389 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378154409 296567 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, did you ping the rusty chap you ought to for Rust? < 1378154461 93750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put a "Kjugobe's Trigger" spell into my computer (which would be the next step from "Kjugobe's Timer" and "Kjugobe's Notification", I suppose) < 1378154509 968766 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it could be betweeen Kjugobe's Safety and Kjugobe's Muzzle < 1378154534 240936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No it shouldn't, at least, in alphabetical order it shouldn't. < 1378154560 344216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I am not talking about alphabetical order with the other two spells, either) < 1378154579 526479 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, can you redesign firearms so that the components are in alphabetical order? < 1378154637 932939 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ? < 1378154642 152235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so; I don't know a lot about firearms. < 1378154686 884781 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, there is a person in this channel, who has significantly more power to fix the Rust situation than the rest of us < 1378154697 251655 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want to make a redundant ping < 1378154711 984596 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But his nick begins with k and ends with c and has an m in the middle < 1378154755 98148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some spells can notify the caster. This spell allows you to modify it so that instead of notifying the caster, it will have trigger a different effect.) < 1378154886 530460 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378154976 192366 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think Famicompo ought to have a designation for the use of software PCM? < 1378155617 151912 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aar04alxLf4 < 1378156116 695119 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :STARTING UNIVERSITY JUST GOT SCARIER < 1378156116 882789 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAH < 1378156116 882989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear Student < 1378156119 300989 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of students coming to York this year has been higher than forecast. In order to meet this unexpected increase in accommodation applications, the University has entered into an agreement with a private Halls of Residence." < 1378156149 692219 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they're contracting out dorms? < 1378156222 146764 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1378156225 953443 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :private Hells of Residence, sounds nice < 1378156288 612508 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well are you even going to be in one of those dorms < 1378156304 249373 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly panicking < 1378156328 249424 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :better play it safe and stay in hexham < 1378156329 511181 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, i live in a dorm administered by the school. i assure you that it can't really get that much worse anyway < 1378156349 722019 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :my school is renting a residence from teh school next door < 1378156354 805432 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we got too many students and they didn't get enough < 1378156363 630692 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm being given the opportunity to book into this place at a university-subsidized rate < 1378156371 930498 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because the university guaranteed accommodation) < 1378156381 416144 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that sounds a lot like my school! < 1378156398 755158 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik no universities here provide their own dorms or accomodation, you pretty much have to get an apartment like normal people < 1378156566 564502 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, it's still an unexpected hurdle < 1378156596 152041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even get an apartment in first year < 1378156612 194854 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you can't exactly pick some flatmates < 1378156616 357702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :violent takeover < 1378156621 146748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. squatting < 1378156622 772112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually you try to get one before the first year < 1378156673 599005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, single rooms < 1378156756 990534 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like halls except not actually halls < 1378156815 216898 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in Corridors of Residence < 1378157338 281049 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378157470 915014 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378157538 6791 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist 6.6.2 < 1378157539 880030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist 6.6.2: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378157665 69257 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1378157718 355684 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1378157727 409021 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really more like 6.6.i2 < 1378157753 507729 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.6.2? < 1378157755 328562 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378157758 513916 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378157761 193241 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1378157767 279198 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could have beat you to it! < 1378157779 815181 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1378157787 848034 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even using any notifier right now < 1378157838 467971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining `*lists and notifiers is cheating < 1378157855 475616 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo was using a notifier for ages < 1378157863 81691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? What notifiers are you refering to anyways? < 1378157883 213699 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :A program that tells me almost immediately when Homestuck updates < 1378157924 356179 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work? Does it use RSS? Does it use a message send directly to your computer? Does it use IRC? < 1378157932 14065 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, does Facebook count as a notifier for olist? Usually, when there's an update, I get Facebook notifications about people liking my page's status < 1378157971 803668 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, I had several at one point. One on my phone that presumably checked RSS, and one that I made in another channel that checked ETag of the RSS feed < 1378157987 994875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, there are many different notifiers, I've seen all three of those strategies < 1378158036 86794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could make a program that notifies when receiving a IRC message starting with "`slist" or whatever, if it help < 1378158080 943521 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that's an abomination < 1378158100 942517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to you it is. < 1378158135 263007 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378158146 632789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why? < 1378158188 748368 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes all the fun out of it < 1378158208 432477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1378158245 143680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it means that when logreading i have to search the logs for more than my nick, which is inconvenient. < 1378158285 967444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1378158289 768517 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378158302 25552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: If you do it manually, then surely. But depending exactly what you are looking for, it might or might not help. < 1378158341 621005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's what i do whenever i log on irc to see if someone pinged me since i left. < 1378158463 946678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it is a HackEgo program; you can make it do whatever you want it to do (if saying your name is all that is necessary, then you can do that). Sometimes HackEgo is unavailable though, so in those cases it may help to still filter directly on the command < 1378158532 289152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have used "`danddreclist" when HackEgo was unavailable, although when it was available again someone told me to do it again so I did; of course I might not be on, though, so don't expect me to necessarily do that) < 1378158708 395457 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you add me to the bdsmreclist < 1378158727 999588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, because I don't know of any such thing. < 1378158759 545863 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, when such a thing becomes available, please add me < 1378158829 543655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set up the notifier in your own computer if you are interested, or add yourself on. I won't necessarily be on or remember it. < 1378158831 357522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats quintopia -----###
< 1378158850 130497 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378158854 956744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to set up a bdsmreclistlist for updates on the existential status of bdsmreclist. < 1378158875 124487 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think oerjan wants to be on the list too, thanks < 1378158920 716122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits quintopia with the saucepan ===\__/
< 1378159434 992526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsmreclist...... < 1378159460 347512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1378159477 525451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that pun is a form of bdsm < 1378159489 236954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well record it then < 1378159512 151343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits" > bsdmreclist < 1378159516 356888 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378159544 18174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "* oerjan swats quintopia -----###" >> bdsmreclist < 1378159547 414910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378159564 737493 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a start < 1378159696 472696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the shit < 1378159700 534973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls b* < 1378159702 251699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bdsmreclist \ bi \ bsdmreclist \ \ bin: \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ cat \ CaT \ cats \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ e \ emmental \ emoclew \ emptylist \ erflist \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ frink \ fueue \ ga < 1378159718 564446 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something up with the fshg browser < 1378159875 628886 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378159913 777331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with what < 1378160011 431850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i have no idea what you are talking about < 1378160181 427128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it had two listings for bdsmreclist < 1378160200 553671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, look closer < 1378160326 206673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately get treatment for dyslexia < 1378160399 79787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+-iv- < 1378160473 151285 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you're right half/some the time, maybe alternately getting treatment is what you want < 1378160572 888849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded of the house episode with a painter whose paintings made no sense but only in some months.
< 1378160898 589326 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378161857 842102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1378161971 135971 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378163486 726272 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378163488 499395 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378163563 189273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm better than average mezzacotta today, i think < 1378163596 887655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than usual < 1378164130 890220 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378164162 81289 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1378165324 579833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Death-related_lists < 1378165340 829237 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how they felt the number of death-related lists was getting out of hand < 1378165353 494696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they made a bunch of subcategories < 1378165379 309875 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists < 1378165480 761194 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still kind of sad they deleted the worst article, "list of lists of fictional things" < 1378165717 713737 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a category:life-related lists, or should i sue wikipedia for antinatalism < 1378166841 722896 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378166869 662214 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378166905 396639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_which_do_not_list_themselves sort of disappointing < 1378166922 955585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would bdsmreclist be... < 1378167126 172635 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378168961 310263 :b4dh3r0_!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378168961 564417 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378168969 994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, today's girl genius update. (also, a good one.) < 1378168983 514807 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378168997 682841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gglist < 1378169021 506554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it updates too regularly to have a list. but lately unfortunately not on the hour. < 1378169070 701890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.clist < 1378169088 527374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378169100 698261 :b4dh3r0__!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378169119 911260 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmclist < 1378169142 907666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i subscribed to that once < 1378169238 292126 :b4dh3r0_!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378169258 515298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? < 1378169265 358486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when would it update < 1378169318 417566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: don't you know when you update? i guess you might get a memory wipe or something. < 1378169396 982929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378169410 203224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep declining the updates because I've rooted my own brain and don't want to get locked out again < 1378169422 746334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was updating for a while until you moved to sf < 1378169428 436948 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i don't get updates :'( < 1378169499 990292 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lists_of_lists < 1378169506 735630 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1378169631 96582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: too bad i'm editing in wysisyg mode so i don't see that comment < 1378169680 551900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh seriously bad side effect of that < 1378169693 765073 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you're not alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_lists_of_lists&action=history&year=2013&month=-1&tagfilter=visualeditor < 1378169708 429751 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not shown: subsequent reverts < 1378169739 324834 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -1st month is my favorite < 1378169923 423874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the prev link in tagfiltered history gives the difference to the previous tagged one < 1378170095 807240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't get it... < 1378170100 535375 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting rid of oldid in the query will fix that < 1378170124 333952 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit buggish < 1378170158 558377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: get what < 1378170210 625419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, kmclist was about job updates < 1378170212 841031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378170539 367619 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible to make a typed brainfuck? < 1378170549 963657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :noep it's impossible < 1378170665 72069 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems possible to me < 1378170668 311893 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's the same type :D < 1378170761 690156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the comment bug has been noticed long ago but not prioritized enough, but is now being discussed again. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49603 < 1378170870 499768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just get oerjan to do my edits for me. < 1378170895 244721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think this has worked great so far? < 1378170902 976331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1378170909 959838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1378170914 864927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worked great for me, that is. < 1378170932 977044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess no worse than if you hadn't asked. < 1378170971 21814 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it's worked out in my experience < 1378171145 496630 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_KAY the lesser-known fcntl flag < 1378171633 64430 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378172867 757593 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378172952 368064 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378172967 69759 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378175084 727391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378175633 212661 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1378176259 417512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which characters is a program using literate comment style more likely to start with, do you think? I think that first, lines starting with # are skipped, and then spaces are skipped and if the next character is % or < then it is literate style. Is there others? < 1378176438 357978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use a AWK program to convert bird-style code into plain code. < 1378176477 753573 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is the AWK program: sub(/^>/,"") < 1378176478 557032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell also has the \begin{code} style < 1378176510 622382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, there is that style too (and you can mix them in the same file, which might be useful). Haskell does, but other programs might not. < 1378176668 181811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the haskell 2010 report says " It is not advisable to mix these two styles in the same file." < 1378176716 997829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes it may not be advisable, although you can do so. It isn't normally useful, but there can be useful in a few cases possibly. < 1378176756 614170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some extensions of AWK that are implemented I don't find very good, although there are some things I would find useful but aren't implemented. These include a \ operator to match parts of the previously used regular expression as a boolean, that matched; another would be a PARSER special block for parsing input in a way other than the normal way (and then have a "yield" command to yield records for the rest of the program to match) < 1378176926 756405 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378176928 856471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about some .lhs syntax highlighter that tries to guess whether bird-style or LaTeX-style is used by the first line of the file, although I don't think that is best idea; better would be to just support both. (I have some bird-style files starting with % and the syntax highlighter incorrectly tries to parse it as a LaTeX-style file) < 1378177062 212840 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378177112 344031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is Pygments. "the style is autodetected: if the first non-whitespace character in the source is a backslash or percent character, LaTeX is assumed, else Bird" < 1378177887 144501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^\\end\{code\}$/{x=0};x||sub(/^>/,"");/^\\begin\{code\}$/{x=1} < 1378177902 196478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it work with Bird-style and LaTeX-style. < 1378178508 57537 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1378178520 358311 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Real WTF is using console.log without testing for it's existence. " < 1378178521 666803 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck IE < 1378178551 54815 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although this is not a problem at work, fortunately for my sanity < 1378178553 469722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would you think are good features to have in a hardware programming language? < 1378178556 214187 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet explorer more like internet suckass dumb stupidheader < 1378178608 547620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow, Sgeo and you sure showed it < 1378178638 133493 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE will think again before being stupid and suck!! now it knows it's got a bad ass staring it down < 1378178663 720283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MICRO$HAFT WINBLOWZE < 1378178687 804093 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc deals the final blow < 1378178692 753656 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378178702 756929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log VENEREAL < 1378178723 631888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway < 1378178733 319232 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-10-05.txt:21:44:04: a language doesn't travel halfway across the globe without picking up a few venereal diseases < 1378178750 765367 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two seconds to make a console in any browser that does nothing if there is no real console, but why should this even be necessary? < 1378178801 788644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written some things (too much incomplete, though) about idea I have, which I called "HWPL" and has many significant differences from Verilog and VHDL. One is there are no numeric types; only vectors. Another is that numbers are in binary notation by default and you need a prefix to specify decimal and hex. < 1378179012 791185 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I purchased more things I don't need today < 1378179033 8555 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I stop < 1378179043 164019 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how do I continue, either tbh < 1378179045 465494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: why put off until tomorrow things that you can buy today < 1378179046 176804 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lose all your money < 1378179048 21955 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. convenient < 1378179066 498095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/98/Jul/gazebo.html < 1378179068 805565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another difference is that vectors can have some bits input and some output (and even analog), you can have a CONNECT command similar to Verilog's "assign" but you can put the output on the other side (such as if it is not originally known which one is output), names that aren't keywords have a sigil prefix, and many others too < 1378179071 674018 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, chances are, I do need a front bike light < 1378179083 843456 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't needed it so far, and I have avoided getting killed at night so far < 1378179483 916689 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing an inventory of all of the things I might ever want to conceivably plug in for using electricity < 1378179499 175932 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of them are firearms < 1378179501 684950 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully this will guide my choice of a power strip between cost and convenience < 1378179510 73933 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 atm < 1378179776 382283 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378180069 402133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it should allow the user to draw timing diagrams like so ┌──┐ < 1378180070 363727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :──┘ └── < 1378180072 628806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1378180112 22253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll see myself out < 1378180206 505429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo commutative timing diagrams < 1378180307 77536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think I understand what you mean even though it is written wrongly < 1378180326 613412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1378180842 15993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What is that? < 1378180859 31435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Not sure. < 1378180932 736346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What I do not know, is what exactly to do with such timing diagrams, anyways, though < 1378180990 184240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you should write the program to implement the correct timing, rather than explicitly writing the diagram (although it may be a text format that, once all macros are expanded, can convert between text and diagram format) < 1378181450 268722 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378181755 201184 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that one thing that wraps esoteric programs and makes syscalls depending on what they output to stdout < 1378181849 998296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1378181853 302200 :b4dh3r0__!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378181860 692037 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, that was helpful < 1378181896 581376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully the information is available in esolang wiki, though. < 1378182249 711334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently listening to a band named HṚṢṬA < 1378182252 362326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty good! < 1378182673 828612 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to GY!BE? < 1378182696 441134 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on their top song by YT search ranking < 1378182728 62464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What tie breaker system do you prefer in Pokemon card? < 1378182733 302143 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378182840 153844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what are some good unicode band names < 1378183001 789586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :101FC PHAISTOS DISC SIGN WAVY BAND [] < 1378183018 704208 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, not The Artist Formerly Known as Prince < 1378183853 32518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378183958 814669 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378184223 186380 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378184298 233815 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378184339 41562 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378185527 228166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: yeah similar and a lot of the same people are involved < 1378185625 233858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: KANGXI RADICAL FIGHT < 1378185704 793884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have added some entries into the glossary of Pokemon card puzzles; see if it is good now. Can you please look, make comment/question/suggest/complaint of it? < 1378185709 326017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is any band named Duff's Device but there is one named Too Close For Missiles (or at least a song) < 1378185758 875756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make up some band named Duff's Device, especially if there are people in there named Duff < 1378185790 750851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pokemon card glossary is: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/terminology.txt < 1378185819 752026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :membership in GY!BE overlaps with many other bands including HṚṢṬA, Set Fire To Flames, Black Ox Orkestar, and {A,The,Thee} Silver Mt. Zion Memorial Orchestra [& Tra-La-La Band [with Choir]] < 1378185984 510770 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efrim Menuck and bandmate Jessica Moss have a child named Ezra Steamtrain Moss Menuck < 1378186264 401826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written something about some society (and corresponding prestige class) for use in Dungeons&Dragons game, so they can put some NPCs of this one and they would have more advantages over me and over others I may try to protect, so this makes it more difficult game. < 1378186367 576047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, I think that should be their proper name, considering the circumstances < 1378187054 24004 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378187055 767126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378187069 447824 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That one an IRC notifier told me) < 1378187153 711071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What IRC notifier is that? < 1378187177 962195 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I wrote < 1378187189 589543 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it has a memory leak though, so the operator doesn't operate it 24/7 < 1378187195 572106 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should attempt to fix it at some point < 1378187250 527178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should there be a sequence number or something like that after some `*list command? < 1378187276 195742 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just something to identify which update it is would be typical < 1378187286 89239 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one would probably be HOLYSHIT, but the last would be HOLYSHIT too < 1378187332 638512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My own `danddreclist uses session numbers afterward; others might have other sequence numbers though) < 1378187665 312650 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1378189195 693731 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you use numbers (or dates, or filenames, or whatever) instead of "HOLYSHIT"? < 1378190157 417391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a natural sequence number for slist (it's at 916), but I for one can never remember which was the last number I saw. < 1378190168 640677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, I don't pay any attention to slist either, because RSS.) < 1378190198 943322 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's kind of funny how all the local news media are full of the Nokia thing. < 1378190284 719590 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378190391 426086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Nokia thing is that? < 1378190423 495951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of melody? l8 e4gc'fac'g ^bd'fgfed e4gc'fac'g ^1 (There is chord too, and it is longer than just this, too) < 1378190437 521378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft just bought most of Nokia's phone-making business and patents for 5.44 billion euros. < 1378190449 897101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, subject to regulatory approval and all that usual stuff. < 1378190667 916685 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (916) < 1378190669 291846 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (916): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1378190673 506148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This one's from my sister.) < 1378190769 799947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, did I confuse slist and olist? How bad. < 1378190773 399124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are so many lists. < 1378191460 334745 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1378191540 91446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@addquote Do you like this kind of melody? l8 e4gc'fac'g ^bd'fgfed e4gc'fac'g ^1 < 1378191540 241555 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1378191543 796437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Do you like this kind of melody? l8 e4gc'fac'g ^bd'fgfed e4gc'fac'g ^1 < 1378191548 98813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1097) Do you like this kind of melody? l8 e4gc'fac'g ^bd'fgfed e4gc'fac'g ^1 < 1378194195 810863 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: KANGXI RADICAL FIGHT <-- was this for oerjan? < 1378195042 198105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378195288 824527 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378195701 550889 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378198170 758900 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378198766 693859 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378199192 41338 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1378199433 179708 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1378199633 871058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378200023 216062 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378200445 947393 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378200573 115810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mornin' < 1378200636 219298 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Taneb < 1378200639 884265 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1378200649 649588 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much < 1378200689 224628 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well < 1378200690 767639 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1378201320 214939 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1378202675 311968 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378202769 701603 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378203288 701709 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378206222 621934 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist s < 1378206224 56049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist s: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378206234 476129 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seen it already < 1378206331 841104 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378207010 748570 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a logarithmic spiral a fractal? < 1378207815 290322 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:5c1a:41ab:b630:530b QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378208414 165039 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1378208955 851104 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, no < 1378208969 949486 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1378208972 606481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more than an infinite straight line is < 1378209158 816684 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp says fractals are sets with fractal dimensions that 'usually' exceed their topological dimensions, which is a bit odd < 1378209572 373428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after further reading i conclude that nobody can actually agree on what fractals are, except that they have to be kind of swirly and self-similar < 1378210176 411975 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on which drugs you are using < 1378210536 287524 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378210555 528842 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378210607 399016 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378211256 290114 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378211281 658538 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1378211301 283882 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378211785 930217 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378212267 371585 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378212405 384645 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378213881 794372 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1378213886 946328 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378213921 722643 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378214432 723197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378214544 720352 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378214674 605045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good third age morning. < 1378214720 899063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nooodl the dand list notifications seem to work well, but they still point to the same level20. is that normal? < 1378214721 55719 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378215051 880891 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378215085 376555 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378215840 781118 :Koen__!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1378215882 166799 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378217241 375990 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning ^^ < 1378217318 720234 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378217434 392529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I wonder how the Pouti will fare today. he spent the weekend on a saruman costume for the Initiatioooooon (♪ scare chord ♪) < 1378217462 832572 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me < 1378217470 74583 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to figure out how to cosplay Gandalf the Grey < 1378217481 966610 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So I saw =P < 1378217539 861857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: let me guess. he posted stuff on that newfangled Facebook thing the kids are all on these days. < 1378217568 28360 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In a chat with me, yeah < 1378217569 375075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I should get to cosplay some time. by the looks of it, it seems very fun. < 1378217671 792497 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's all fun < 1378217675 294115 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not at all wallet-burning < 1378217696 338063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1378217762 649800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, while my synapses are beginning their daily workout and coherent thoughts are forming, were there any major modifications made to the Wisdoms in the past few days? < 1378218459 270571 :legend303!~Myself@84.238.82.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378218560 609157 :legend303!~Myself@84.238.82.225 PART :#esoteric < 1378219775 139428 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378219793 937643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helooodl. < 1378219845 50852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think so, no < 1378219884 156886 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1378219898 384136 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378219912 954813 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, friend from the club ^^ < 1378219927 973452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck club < 1378219928 397286 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :club definition: a heavy usually tapering staff especially of wood wielded as a weapon. < 1378219930 949767 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: re: lambdabot: i've wondered the same thing. i think zzo keeps updating level20.tex but i have no idea what the "levels" are < 1378219932 603871 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Roujo < 1378219987 847907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: re: re: oh: la: lambdabot: makes sense. < 1378219995 823168 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 what is a level? < 1378219995 972604 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378220059 995534 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? danddreclist < 1378220062 256134 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex (the precompiled .dvi is also available) \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378220069 921612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if you can clear a branch while wielding a club as a melee character... < 1378220075 209073 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good addition < 1378220093 469970 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/ contains only level20.tex < 1378220100 776011 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some other stuff related to level20 < 1378220161 256428 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378220165 335555 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Solain < 1378220168 304612 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1203Solain:14 We09lcome to the interna04tional hub f13o07r es03oteric 04pro05grammin04g langu07age desig08n10 and d09eployment! For mo02re information, c05heck out our 05wiki14:06 05http09://e05sol12a06ngs.org/wiki/Main_Page07. (For the other kind of esoter11ica, tr03y #es10ot11e07ric12 on irc.dal.net.) < 1378220171 780438 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378220215 18467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya ^^ < 1378220216 346668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: maybe it's only a coincidence that the letters form “level”. maybe it's a cipher based on zzo38's name, and it's parsed as “le”, then “vel20”. < 1378220258 954166 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm guys, im only a novice programer, but on what language do people actually build their own language? asm? < 1378220275 738838 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. rarely < 1378220279 226426 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you like, really < 1378220282 989635 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1378220288 46739 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interpreter can be written in anything < 1378220295 412003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What matters is the language spec itself ^^ < 1378220299 147567 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs, at least, tend to be written in much more high-level languages < 1378220305 364184 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as c? < 1378220308 376991 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure! < 1378220312 249661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or C++ < 1378220315 993066 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Python < 1378220318 191128 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Brainfuck < 1378220329 801516 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe writing an esolang on an esolang < 1378220353 729763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: a common hobby, and a very interesting one too. < 1378220357 616540 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck#Self-interpreters < 1378220375 300066 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are kidding me < 1378220380 271678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1378220396 671606 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had a lot of time on his hands ay? < 1378220409 802415 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had, yeah < 1378220423 711273 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck < 1378220426 476757 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a whole page < 1378220426 859993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/EsoInterpreters < 1378220439 30873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry. people will scrounge and munge and maim your creations, and do wonderful and horrendous things with them. < 1378220439 213995 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1378220448 174642 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes < 1378220450 263730 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd < 1378220478 118515 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish has a way to output things but it has no way to input them! < 1378220487 263824 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heck < 1378220492 675114 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a problem. hth. < 1378220500 622556 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at boily
< 1378220518 754819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1378220532 761461 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to see someone building a game engine on brainfuck < 1378220539 408200 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be funyy < 1378220539 855263 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck boily < 1378220540 159716 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378220540 706054 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1378220543 363413 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a libary < 1378220549 124311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: already done. and done. < 1378220550 445760 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :With books and all! < 1378220553 680572 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1378220557 313298 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a game libary? < 1378220562 457759 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on brainfuck? < 1378220563 286350 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're kind of like Zombo.com here < 1378220565 708511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :both at the same time? no idea. < 1378220566 356847 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is possible < 1378220571 499007 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only limit... is yourself < 1378220573 402045 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome < 1378220575 827071 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To #esoteric < 1378220587 57079 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found my place < 1378220594 461786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fungot. someone has to make an official mp3 of that. < 1378220594 611446 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and is one thing which you might want is broken" archives. even less chance. i called " o" in " the other side has just said! ...wh...what g...l...e...n...n? < 1378220609 839278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think e broke < 1378220694 869227 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Soon, you will learn about ~duck and `? and hth and all of these wonderful things < 1378220710 634654 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck? < 1378220710 911343 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1378220715 250337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for hth, which isn't that wonderful, really < 1378220718 332595 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like duck duck goose? < 1378220722 136594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda < 1378220727 713041 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never played it < 1378220739 821043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Esolang < 1378220740 145409 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :An esoteric programming language (sometimes shortened to esolang) is a programming language designed to test the boundaries of computer programming language design, as a proof of concept, or as a joke. < 1378220746 322115 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Brainfuck < 1378220746 738632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The brainfuck programming language is an esoteric programming language noted for its extreme minimalism. < 1378220779 351700 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i download an pascal ide, that does everything but pascal < 1378220783 19694 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gg < 1378220792 787250 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Pascal < 1378220793 252948 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His early work included the invention of the adding machine and syringe, and the co-development with Fermat of the mathematical theory of probability. < 1378220800 778637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite >_> < 1378220802 654569 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1378220803 552361 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats duck < 1378220807 958353 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378220809 218124 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378220813 517986 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to google it < 1378220827 380576 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Shall I ask him the questiön? Or should you? < 1378220834 850863 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duck duck go < 1378220835 177168 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duck Duck Go is a search engine based in Valley Forge, Pennsylvania that uses information from crowd-sourced sites (like Wikipedia) with the aim of augmenting traditional results and improving relevance. < 1378220849 673352 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :web crawler < 1378220858 635470 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: ~duck performs duck duck go queries < 1378220873 927515 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1378220876 177159 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378220921 336500 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice(?) < 1378220927 207435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1378220936 585469 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1378220952 793059 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of the ways to ask what the hell people are talking about here < 1378220956 677361 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or about stuff you don't know < 1378220965 291981 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378220969 622732 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1378220986 943023 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ~duck < 1378220987 281174 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the duck. Dax the duck. < 1378221087 6763 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to start programming my own esolang, but i havent thought of a concept yet < 1378221106 908552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378221117 433552 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378221120 742886 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of writing it in 1337 lang but it will be a little bit too cheesy < 1378221137 189619 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/1337 < 1378221146 641536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1378221148 233069 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1378221155 696709 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not relevant after all =P < 1378221161 294847 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like that < 1378221162 110514 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was one, though < 1378221164 285233 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378221167 937901 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like that at all < 1378221183 283324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, this one < 1378221183 652627 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/L33t < 1378221208 629440 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but programmers who do that are "teh sUxX0r". HAHAHAHHAHAHH < 1378221214 728190 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i luv this guy < 1378221220 272844 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378221303 846221 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so leet speak is catched < 1378221307 530933 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1378221312 646574 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1378221408 463119 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, a language that is all made from infinte loops < 1378222152 939288 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chucks a bucket of water* < 1378222206 426400 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :standards for eso have kind of gone up, you've got things like twoducks and eodermdrome to compete with < 1378222231 989510 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? < 1378222250 256487 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378222260 293455 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im doing this for fun < 1378222273 755914 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not competition < 1378222286 661657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, but you probably still want to do something interesting. < 1378222288 942800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>It is uncomputable on a Turing machine; it even allows you to solve the halting problem. < 1378222292 675022 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURE < 1378222305 633435 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand this "i want to make an esolang...but i have no idea what to make" thing really. i always thought that "i have an idea for an esolang!" was the first step. < 1378222332 186700 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had one but i didnt know how to do it, now i do < 1378222337 884087 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1378222338 711516 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allows you to go back in time and change things < 1378222351 728773 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats easy to acheive < 1378222357 152839 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine will also do coffee < 1378222366 474497 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat that twoducks < 1378222386 259228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :any esolang that makes coffee is worth a look < 1378222399 10837 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that makes coffee is worth a look < 1378222409 821873 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is: is the coffee turing-complete? < 1378222416 270620 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. when did this channel allow in all these druggies < 1378222435 317632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make a metaesolang. the language which makes it easy to make new esolangs. < 1378222438 152552 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet you could make a neat non-equilibrium reaction with coffee, which could let you do some nice computey stuff. < 1378222444 705612 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose a druggie < 1378222455 567073 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :His < 1378222463 284599 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h3h3 < 1378222481 327187 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you urchins and your coffee < 1378222492 767540 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my coffee? < 1378222499 788734 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee is good for the soul and the hangover < 1378222507 896622 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for the headaches < 1378222513 377688 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coffee is Good < 1378222515 484041 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coffee is Life < 1378222516 370592 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378222518 470852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All Hail Coffee < 1378222520 133425 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the headaches are a result of the hangover < 1378222523 752303 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1378222541 426636 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(two times no for both of you) < 1378222554 676995 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause cthultu the computer god < 1378222556 277325 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1378222561 922809 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause i dont have hangovers < 1378222571 472436 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Gate < 1378222572 750063 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered getting drunker < 1378222573 696872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Key < 1378222590 994026 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considerd the fact that im under-aged? < 1378222600 442894 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it matter? < 1378222611 294329 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta < 1378222616 867571 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more year dude < 1378222623 941324 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will be as drunk as a goat < 1378222626 981012 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until than < 1378222628 67899 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378222631 356193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goats are drunk? < 1378222633 499018 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nope < 1378222635 284928 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nop < 1378222639 258834 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO-OP < 1378222639 793023 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes they are < 1378222646 510632 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% of time < 1378222654 328416 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered the fact that 420 blaze it every day < 1378222669 113385 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/174/2/b/goat_meme_by_existtraiesc-d6ab6ga.jpg < 1378222673 916066 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact is a fact < 1378222677 567299 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are drunk < 1378222681 73434 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a pic < 1378222694 329396 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/goat < 1378222695 976548 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/goat: No such file or directory < 1378222697 381239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/goats < 1378222699 195915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/goats: No such file or directory < 1378222706 11396 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? goats < 1378222707 871178 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :goats? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378222708 177291 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378222708 359306 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1378222712 398995 :TheDoomSong!x@z11.me JOIN :#esoteric < 1378222713 611734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1378222715 831941 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you have it. < 1378222719 712466 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome TheDoomSong < 1378222722 744842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13TheDo10omSong: W14elcome to the i11nternational h06ub for esoteric programming language design 13and11 deployment! For more inf14ormation, che05ck o13ut our wi09ki: ht10t06p07://esolangs.org/wik05i/11Main_Pa10ge12. (For t14he other kind of eso07terica04, try #esoteric05 on ir09c.d08al.net.)12 < 1378222723 718053 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello doom song < 1378222729 443225 :TheDoomSong!x@z11.me PRIVMSG #esoteric :rankyew < 1378222748 100544 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the talk about drunken goats < 1378222748 387649 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :plinkplink < 1378222757 856692 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. > wisdom/goats < 1378222761 746255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378222780 279204 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exception detected, Solain too stornk < 1378222797 787188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck stornk < 1378222798 92325 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378222801 19765 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1378222810 572359 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stronk=strong < 1378222815 335881 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378222821 181274 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask solain for dets < 1378222829 61428 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello conehead < 1378222862 203179 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quiet, 2 quiet* < 1378222878 498898 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378222884 239102 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378222937 967223 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378222938 262305 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   | < 1378222938 427234 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 º¯`\o < 1378222943 24282 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let us stop talking about drunken goats, and talk about interepter building < 1378222953 611231 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smooth* < 1378222958 850361 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i built an interpreter once, but he fell on me. < 1378222972 280556 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I built an interpreter in Reno, but I can't recall why < 1378222973 878829 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel better soon m8 < 1378223076 286022 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chucks more water* < 1378223201 790188 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378223225 206401 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378223228 3163 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1378223331 721973 :TheDoomSong!x@z11.me QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378223487 832517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from meeting! < 1378223494 122401 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hai < 1378223502 912093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: too lazy to check if Solain was The Questiöned. was he? < 1378223508 113950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or she. you never know.) < 1378223513 131653 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he m8 < 1378223516 645482 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: おはよう！ < 1378223521 977671 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no girls on the internet < 1378223528 624188 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rule number something of the internet < 1378223530 128027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* uhm... < 1378223534 867739 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless < 1378223542 441185 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a proof < 1378223546 50612 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that she is a girl < 1378223549 171385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points to Fiora
< 1378223550 964688 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a live proof < 1378223552 46052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is. < 1378223556 25589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't do this, man. < 1378223557 116591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION points to misogyny
< 1378223558 668114 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're adults. < 1378223570 388321 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378223570 779603 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk < 1378223583 209701 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are so serious.. < 1378223587 426854 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1378223597 95322 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[18:51] Roujo: too lazy to check if Solain was The Questiöned. was he? < 1378223616 99221 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :deal with dat? < 1378223666 596942 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to reading than < 1378223667 65946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: he is Bike of the Innocuously Serious Replies. you can defeat him by lozenging his eyes. < 1378223696 556202 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think i understood only 20% of that sentence < 1378223721 493385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: ask Koen (when he'll join) how he feels about not understanding what I say. < 1378223733 429171 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to lunch! < 1378223745 540487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I haven't Questiöned em, no. Not yet. < 1378223745 690356 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: im afraid i wont understand him < 1378223760 494248 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the deal with the weird o < 1378223765 117704 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dat like < 1378223771 990630 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of the mystery < 1378223773 490769 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and drama < 1378223784 439346 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tradition < 1378223788 832383 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1378223790 994530 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traditiön, yes. < 1378223797 974582 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can save time and avoid tradition by just filling out the survey in the topic < 1378223801 867733 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1378223810 356330 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1OvEsdBioOFcXFAiscO34kctUWKs3dWQs5-ZouXdwy9Q this? < 1378223817 703578 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1378223826 179527 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you accept pesterchums? < 1378223828 281461 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lozenge is one of those diamond characters. ◊ < 1378223831 562221 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ◊ < 1378223833 369412 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1018) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1378223839 225069 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1378223844 668820 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you accept pesterchums? < 1378223849 417817 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a drug < 1378223851 962983 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378223852 135433 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so: yes < 1378223856 901458 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1378223857 736984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's the point then. < 1378223858 93765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accept persterbots < 1378223863 549181 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not real people < 1378223867 243325 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say drugs < 1378223872 581729 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudes < 1378223872 949991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, got any yellow bentines < 1378223879 239801 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :real people complain when you do things like kick them or shoot them in the eye < 1378223886 291879 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IM NOT SELLING DRUGS < 1378223886 441352 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: #drugz. < 1378223891 983412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do you accept hugz < 1378223895 160675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you selling #drugz < 1378223898 567536 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: often < 1378223901 765993 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawd dayum it < 1378223904 552835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, so are you the boz-boz? < 1378223909 870657 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO IM NOT < 1378223916 658706 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think e is < 1378223927 710131 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting out of hand < 1378223932 361152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll settle for a quart of triplesod. < 1378223932 632871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes. < 1378223954 240647 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: nothing gets out of hand as long as you keep a beer there < 1378223954 770605 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A quart? Come on. Do I have to go all SI up on you? =P < 1378223962 763424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: everyday?? < 1378223966 369474 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or a bottle of lean. whatever you prefer.) < 1378223980 133436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smoke hugs every day < 1378224008 828767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is my anti-hug < 1378224039 97181 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is narnia a legit country? < 1378224039 246943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck: My Anti-Drug < 1378224042 206811 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1378224045 498599 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1378224046 99482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on who you ask, though < 1378224052 89822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people say no < 1378224054 892128 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some say yes < 1378224061 685910 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to find *those* < 1378224064 326272 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And keep in touch < 1378224064 475914 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have sent the survey < 1378224068 248678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1378224068 724783 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: i don't think so. all its kings and queens are in exile. < 1378224074 604063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no government < 1378224077 837648 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you put bogus answers on the survey < 1378224083 129768 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the survey is very serious solain < 1378224085 538202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Do you need a government to have a country? < 1378224090 320340 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1378224093 455554 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1378224096 179935 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1378224102 235794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, are you miscalibrating the Answer? < 1378224108 530188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting in Narnia would fuck up the CoM big time < 1378224118 419505 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don < 1378224125 391084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Narnia is in another galaxy isn't it < 1378224125 540530 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1378224131 664364 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i finished the survey < 1378224131 813858 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere like that, yeah < 1378224136 912026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or another universe, even < 1378224141 403279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or another dimension entirely < 1378224153 627846 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell do you actually need my body wieght for < 1378224157 343456 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. totes throwing off the centroid < 1378224159 688126 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ïa! Ïa! Aslan fthang! < 1378224173 135775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Reasöns. < 1378224179 570720 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask boily. < 1378224182 543806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: how would we find a center of mass without your approximate body weigh < 1378224184 368076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows < 1378224184 707482 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just type dude in disgrace < 1378224189 766733 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typed < 1378224208 723382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the centre of mass of narnia < 1378224217 231115 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lion dude < 1378224221 332700 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lion < 1378224243 470463 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Most lions exist < 1378224259 476299 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Is that really true? < 1378224265 779877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said Most < 1378224266 54113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of several nonexistent lions. < 1378224267 868640 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: not true! there are far more lions in my imagination than in the world < 1378224269 662790 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a fun fact < 1378224273 170866 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1378224276 10885 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be true < 1378224276 905231 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I know of any existent ones. < 1378224279 209450 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You haven't seen the Lion Dimension < 1378224282 315902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1378224289 894265 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyz < 1378224290 441698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :GG shachaf < 1378224292 284429 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyz < 1378224293 77666 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how often do you tell that joke shachaf < 1378224293 972597 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyz < 1378224295 149689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just broke reality again < 1378224297 592966 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I asked what was going on, would the answer make sense to me and be satisfying? < 1378224298 948428 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyz//// < 1378224304 30085 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378224304 617524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Do you like lions? < 1378224307 398784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe < 1378224307 747845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: ""everyday"" < 1378224310 361111 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be boring though < 1378224315 927733 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATS PASCAL GUYZ < 1378224321 796656 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~? Pascal < 1378224322 59605 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1378224323 265662 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dead theologian < 1378224324 988699 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Pascal < 1378224326 391899 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting a strong "no" vibe here < 1378224326 629248 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pascal? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378224327 62700 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378224327 238667 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378224331 792276 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: < 1378224338 587780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then no, it wouldn't satisfy you < 1378224339 978355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1378224342 802983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what's pascal < 1378224342 952682 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov < 1378224349 76783 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pascal is the dude who invented the first mechanical calculator < 1378224351 123006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Pascal < 1378224351 581128 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :His early work included the invention of the adding machine and syringe, and the co-development with Fermat of the mathematical theory of probability. < 1378224351 731380 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :assmaster < 1378224357 94792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Not Pascal < 1378224357 438163 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378224358 692608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1378224359 841270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah that's kinda neat < 1378224363 562506 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1378224365 609898 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mousse. \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378224366 123711 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you thinking of leibniz < 1378224371 347104 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck why are we learning pascal at school < 1378224371 709246 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378224394 240243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, so you can do calculations mechanically hth < 1378224403 61491 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, pascal did it too. < 1378224403 250611 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth m8? < 1378224410 254364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378224410 835179 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mistake. < 1378224412 827659 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what mech calc? < 1378224423 931941 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you generally talking bout? < 1378224432 576945 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier to keep your business's books usng the pascaline! < 1378224434 876278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, elliott < 1378224435 436637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chalc chor nech noch < 1378224436 685239 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no errors guaranteed < 1378224437 595953 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this idea < 1378224439 794611 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blaise pascal. he invented a calculator. < 1378224448 675659 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an idea?? i love ideas < 1378224455 511603 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember that oerjan has this anti-hth script? < 1378224461 865212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we kicked it up a notch < 1378224463 173363 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hth < 1378224463 643578 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378224471 911217 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1378224472 786353 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And put it on *your* client < 1378224473 888074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378224481 508263 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378224481 798437 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1378224481 973787 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  º¯`\o < 1378224485 263356 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that it auto-kick people who say it =P < 1378224492 970099 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto-kicks* < 1378224497 858950 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who fucked up `? < 1378224501 576122 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1378224512 983467 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want abuse of op power, you could just ask me directly. < 1378224523 774227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, kick kmc plx < 1378224525 756181 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that face thing doing there < 1378224528 597236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kick people who say hth hth < 1378224535 145435 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1378224535 180414 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378224535 670445 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: kick < 1378224538 275285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit < 1378224538 720441 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric quintopia :if you insist < 1378224543 179316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1378224547 633621 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1378224549 688966 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing op < 1378224559 641132 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itz magik < 1378224560 880527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that it actually helped =P < 1378224644 671193 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hoover Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist Phantom__Hoover can’t decide what an appropriate number of underscores is. Phantom___Hoover sucks at ghosting himself. phantom_______hoover It doesn’t get any better than this. < 1378224645 383744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously where is that ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ coming from < 1378224658 122148 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom pdf sure is wise < 1378224681 825175 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inconsistently capitalised < 1378224685 352962 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? us < 1378224687 425213 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :u monad? \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378224693 919403 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1378224701 924576 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1378224703 309005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ \? "$@" | perl -C7 -pe '$_ = uc' | sed -e s/[.?]/!/g -e 's/!\?$/!/' \ #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ e < 1378224704 737172 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAISE YOUR DONGARS < 1378224726 471271 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnooodl just randomises the number of o's in nooodl < 1378224764 973527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/cat hth < 1378224768 492675 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `hth': No such file or directory < 1378224774 501859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? us < 1378224776 226613 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :u monad? < 1378224778 351243 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm guessing it's the e cut off there < 1378224811 382851 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/8a05139b44fa/bin/%3F < 1378224848 244433 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guyz using irc programs or the web client < 1378224862 726323 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what is more comftrable < 1378224871 334817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irc < 1378224873 466119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc is useless. < 1378224876 57880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1378224887 591466 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck "irc is useless" < 1378224887 930271 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378224893 339362 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378224908 298891 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeeep < 1378224914 865392 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use a client < 1378224918 695969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :KVIrc < 1378224924 688019 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you amazing guy < 1378224935 933876 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378224938 198040 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux or win? < 1378224942 364441 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy koen < 1378224946 188645 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeOS < 1378224947 176270 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1378224953 742395 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1378224958 27358 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haiku, really < 1378224975 932238 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378224985 834308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikeu < 1378224988 679060 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck BeOS < 1378224989 108024 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeOS is an operating system for personal computers first developed by Be Inc. in 1991. < 1378224996 12375 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you < 1378225006 487905 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck 1 < 1378225007 260606 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A registry mark given by underwriters to ships in first-class condition. < 1378225012 625853 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1378225053 876612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo An ambitiöus new Esolanger who, although underage, is eager to learn. > wisdom/Solain < 1378225057 688863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378225067 382167 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You exist now < 1378225200 987665 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: hooray < 1378225247 55278 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds worryingly sensible < 1378225248 308749 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about duck and web crawlers < 1378225251 99356 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did ou know < 1378225253 246948 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1378225255 683134 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you work in a stupid joke about what country he's from, or something < 1378225287 296028 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sites use robots.txt to block ddos attack that hapoppes from web crawlers < 1378225291 789184 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*happen < 1378225343 345793 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard him called "webhead" or "wall crawler" in the past, but never "web crawler" < 1378225359 855932 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the official term < 1378225369 271134 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler < 1378225373 372280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Well < 1378225374 93161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1378225374 856626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1378225376 337246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1378225384 519961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wall crawlers > Web crawlers < 1378225384 669243 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378225389 1835 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378225393 917484 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if its wikipedied < 1378225396 850090 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wins < 1378225397 441694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you can run out of webs, but you'll never run out of walls < 1378225404 859912 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows that possible < 1378225406 758846 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or logic < 1378225413 838531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you build a web? < 1378225416 877494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you build a wall? < 1378225418 494053 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never run out of webz < 1378225424 588323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one sounds easier? < 1378225438 38700 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many web-builders do you know? < 1378225443 792782 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many wall-builders are there? < 1378225446 179461 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :20-30 < 1378225452 73495 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(web builders) < 1378225458 588014 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is only one web) < 1378225459 43466 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me guess < 1378225462 290415 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its global < 1378225462 475892 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your father is a spider? < 1378225473 417591 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudeeeeeeeee im talking about the internetz < 1378225477 474764 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not archnaids < 1378225483 42915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the Interwebs? < 1378225486 898485 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378225488 650238 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mucho webs right there < 1378225493 315951 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever floats your boat < 1378225499 454725 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My boat sank in '84 < 1378225503 926467 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad story < 1378225512 759421 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with her love < 1378225526 183169 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a book, make a fortune < 1378225546 995161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 2: ??? < 1378225559 643594 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get drunk(?) < 1378225563 512686 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Did you know about humans.txt? < 1378225573 656572 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even want to hear about it < 1378225582 907124 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/humans.txt < 1378225608 17983 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya kidding me < 1378225614 268596 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even < 1378225625 352141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was, could I look you in the eye and say I want to meet your daughter? < 1378225632 697363 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thought so) < 1378225646 651627 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont have adaughter m8 < 1378225652 707438 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1378225656 158893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there you go < 1378225658 853514 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? daughter < 1378225660 600429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :daughter? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378225660 858412 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1378225661 34035 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             º¯`\o < 1378225663 216951 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1378225666 618043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sure e had one < 1378225689 181771 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didnt we allready talk bout that ima under-aged < 1378225692 807595 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1378225696 241107 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im sure we did < 1378225713 23456 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378225714 891069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378225715 176644 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378225715 351531 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1378225717 833145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378225719 977925 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solanin < 1378225720 488697 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck solain < 1378225720 797225 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378225721 618450 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :solanin? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378225721 906273 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378225722 56259 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1378225726 544781 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck solanin < 1378225726 858327 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solanin is a Japanese manga written and illustrated by Inio Asano. < 1378225731 463960 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go. < 1378225732 994067 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawd < 1378225741 613231 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not even utterly funny < 1378225752 734203 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't I just add that entry? < 1378225755 54983 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/run ls < 1378225756 139431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: /run: No such file or directory \ /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: /run: cannot execute: No such file or directory < 1378225756 953789 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1378225758 403780 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ bsdmreclist \ canary \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ raise_them \ random \ run \ share \ src \ wisdom \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378225775 352001 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE HELL IS THE FOLDER NAME < 1378225782 355354 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378225789 879220 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP RAISING YOUR DONGERS MAN < 1378225792 179593 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the folder name of what < 1378225792 331370 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a file < 1378225794 952857 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITS NOT HEALTHY < 1378225824 436000 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter? he is all there raising his dongers < 1378225846 351964 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1378225852 924498 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't we all? < 1378225856 401916 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378225861 335099 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure we are! < 1378225872 811793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ > wisdom/Solain < 1378225876 558780 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378225881 557028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378225882 826978 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! put those dongers down right now! < 1378225882 999686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378225883 451378 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378225883 625688 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378225885 957742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyyy < 1378225895 401230 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAUSE IT AINT HEALTHY < 1378225895 687748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ? < 1378225897 55689 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/? < 1378225905 318943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/Solain < 1378225906 694772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378225916 417695 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which ?) < 1378225918 18356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ \? "$@" | perl -C7 -pe '$_ = uc' | sed -e s/[.?]/!/g -e 's/!\?$/!/' \ #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ e < 1378225920 619347 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guyz < 1378225924 459684 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious disscusion < 1378225930 460251 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378225932 294074 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious < 1378225935 931402 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okey? < 1378225940 316071 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1378225944 101536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ > okay < 1378225952 959444 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what are your thoughts on the computational theory of mind. < 1378225955 347731 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i going to make an esolang which is all made from loops < 1378225960 70997 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378225961 888669 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how/ < 1378225967 314804 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno. make some shit up. fuck it. fuck everything. < 1378225968 136838 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think we're NP-Hard < 1378225998 672988 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1378226003 619789 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :while 1; do echo ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ; done < 1378226006 522238 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need some sort of < 1378226008 132271 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while 1; do echo ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ; done < 1378226008 669047 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guide < 1378226009 638302 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1378226009 787869 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: 1: command not found < 1378226010 729209 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378226013 710724 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guide < 1378226014 731608 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tut < 1378226016 623327 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1378226018 430106 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1378226020 700474 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do echo ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ; done < 1378226022 237012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378226027 323815 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause it will be my first interepter < 1378226027 510407 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice job < 1378226027 660247 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you try putting more than one word on each line ;_; < 1378226032 976505 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378226039 626735 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its < 1378226040 523383 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1378226041 899170 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much < 1378226042 439205 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of < 1378226042 985839 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1378226044 313824 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :job < 1378226048 736355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Says the new guy to the operator < 1378226077 474001 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do realize hitting " " isn't any harder than hitting ' < 1378226078 344483 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :' < 1378226079 499197 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :op has alot oh responsob on his\her shoulders < 1378226086 419611 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*of < 1378226095 710579 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1378226096 111262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don < 1378226096 988460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1378226097 604725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :know < 1378226098 181746 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1378226100 739699 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could < 1378226103 275614 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :get < 1378226105 725685 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty < 1378226108 237375 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :irritating < 1378226110 733634 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1378226113 236931 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quickly < 1378226115 741943 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1378226118 255073 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1378226120 754740 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :think < 1378226123 155373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric :+m > 1378226123 169182 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378226192 92459 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric :-m > 1378226192 105579 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378226195 979198 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +v :quintopia > 1378226196 1626 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378226207 584602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voice the sane ones, they said < 1378226210 99932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wise words < 1378226216 467487 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1378226220 172711 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt do a thing < 1378226223 290860 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got muted < 1378226229 149210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole channel got muted =P < 1378226233 413515 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh rly < 1378226235 647121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1378226235 871153 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny thing. just after the muting i said. < 1378226264 422255 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the op do dat for de lolz and giglez < 1378226264 702161 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :< quintopia> elliott: can you kick people who don't write their whole message in the same PRIVMSG < 1378226276 4478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out it wasn't necessary < 1378226300 413052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do everything for de lolz and giglez! < 1378226305 985081 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or we could tell the bot to kick any one who speaks twice in a row < 1378226308 327779 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mad man! < 1378226335 17623 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/mad/Mad/g < 1378226386 67472 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the irch channel hosted on the esolang wiki server? < 1378226390 150437 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*irc < 1378226395 365211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is on the freenode network. < 1378226401 441729 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1378226413 23352 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well than\ < 1378226414 661921 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378226452 246724 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can join exciting programming channels like #PHP and #django. < 1378226460 348409 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my autocratic control of the esoteric languages universe has not yet extended to the IRC servers < 1378226475 757930 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"except for this whole op thing, i mean" < 1378226480 465873 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"got that going pretty solid" < 1378226503 385295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is op, please nerf < 1378226504 250166 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not the same unless you can k-line people ;_; < 1378226523 441484 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Start irc.esolangs.org! < 1378226562 95120 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elliott is op, please nerf" better nerf irelia < 1378226737 778859 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378226936 156301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or indeed the file server < 1378226949 4969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the mailing list and the forum!!! < 1378227008 906886 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forum is mine! < 1378227019 409902 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in I host the read-only archive that is all that's left of it < 1378227027 457600 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the mailing list is completely broken now, I think < 1378227045 115621 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new mailing list < 1378227047 917111 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new forum < 1378227162 119538 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new goverment < 1378227221 429128 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ill be back at 20-60 min < 1378227223 548525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :New World Order < 1378227226 931526 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Brainfuck Variant < 1378227233 161800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Spoons For All < 1378227247 197092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brick in every brain < 1378227445 345146 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378227603 245597 :Solain!54e47ea0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.126.160 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378227606 299671 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, my terminal is trying to send me sublinicodal messages, and I get mentioned through the eldritch noise. < 1378227618 33246 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray tell what just happened? < 1378227634 160259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :op abuse < 1378227638 17451 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst kind < 1378227643 327738 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot's gone insane < 1378227672 98727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good. elliott can now serve as an example case that I myself am not insane :D < 1378227684 701396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378227686 535164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378227686 866881 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378227687 45417 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378227712 241819 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378227719 743595 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1378227723 426326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellolain. < 1378227738 130222 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice1 < 1378227781 500456 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb boily < 1378227784 815860 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was the food < 1378227825 798070 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets talk about our favourite food < 1378227839 108537 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? < 1378227844 58702 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1378227846 100468 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just me? < 1378227848 963062 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad> < 1378227849 170708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice. a coworker and I went to a new place. it was vegetarian and lentilly :) < 1378227859 198569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: your dad is your favourite food??? < 1378227870 471 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no m8 < 1378227878 280982 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1378227893 236656 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my faviroute food is sushi < 1378227899 651090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: how does it feel to be voiced? is it kmcesque? < 1378227901 543847 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however you type it in english < 1378227911 185107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: where are you from? < 1378227931 521041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: fiora, is that you? :o < 1378227940 916231 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to not awake political dissucsions, ill say narnia < 1378227946 220007 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378227949 586512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it feels like normal, except that if elliott has to mute the weirdos again, it won't stop me from feeling normal < 1378227949 736467 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im solain < 1378227966 945477 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even know who fiore is < 1378227975 102705 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :narnia, israel < 1378227982 789529 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shoot < 1378227985 734214 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ip? < 1378227990 584273 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats low < 1378227994 659726 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378227999 73507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :your fault for not masking < 1378228012 160771 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY WOULD IM MASK MY IP IN ESOLANG IRC < 1378228024 864530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esostalk < 1378228028 416975 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i thought im on irc node < 1378228046 420240 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawd this is worse than the skype ip exploit < 1378228079 666762 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i didnt want to say that im from israel so you would start a political debate or something < 1378228083 534542 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not an exploit if it's the intended behavior < 1378228084 687592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(元のバージョンは「寿司」と言うが、sushiが可能です。) < 1378228095 627718 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you land robbers" or something like dat < 1378228118 432859 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:08] <+quintopia> it's not an exploit if it's the intended behavior''''' did you read how the ip exploit work? < 1378228120 376486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: i don't think there are any palestinians in this channel, so it shouldn't turn political in any case. < 1378228129 420227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: you're not the only israelite in there, and I have a nifty list of approximate coördinates :D < 1378228133 220897 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not only palestains < 1378228139 855647 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its everybody < 1378228141 849369 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :americans < 1378228143 365680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: i type /whois and the server tells me your IP < 1378228143 528403 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russians < 1378228148 405342 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1378228154 250488 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also double click my name < 1378228158 240974 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooo...not an exploit? < 1378228162 850622 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse not < 1378228167 359788 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i talked about skype < 1378228167 782376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we agree < 1378228171 828032 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378228175 102158 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i talked about skype < 1378228176 860690 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just < 1378228181 149088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's possible for people who aren't from Palestine to have an opinion on the conflict, but I'm also sure that I'm going to get really tempted to +m again if it happens as inanely as this seems to be edging towards < 1378228183 796690 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :talked about different subjects < 1378228187 439307 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this isn't skype < 1378228193 755120 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isnt < 1378228195 19666 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1378228212 564268 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also isnt brainfuck coded platform, alas we talk about brainfuck < 1378228214 286763 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont we? < 1378228239 108070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :raise your hand if you talk about brainfuck < 1378228243 967515 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im breaking my fingers here, i like to type short < 1378228253 892162 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupidly short < 1378228271 931571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope i don't think we talk about brainfuck. perhaps you meant to say underload < 1378228309 720286 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1378228338 379779 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im bored < 1378228350 984371 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1378228363 86822 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted to learn how to code an interepter in C < 1378228368 759955 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you keep this as a secret < 1378228382 727560 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: you are probably in Tel Aviv, or near it. < 1378228401 465996 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ip location can find the supplier on the internet < 1378228406 475638 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not excet location < 1378228410 787391 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n00b < 1378228428 896483 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough for the CoM i think boily < 1378228429 733548 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :kmc > 1378228429 744551 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378228438 544224 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to Canadian dimensions, so for me you are near Tel Aviv anyway :p < 1378228443 671666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a song is a weapon < 1378228446 733977 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no and yes < 1378228448 968865 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1378228451 424877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1378228453 263433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what's a CoM? < 1378228458 150500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :centroid < 1378228458 523045 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose kmc? < 1378228463 388089 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck kmc < 1378228463 805913 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kitten mortality complex. < 1378228468 694524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1378228469 42438 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1378228471 989423 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: I am that I am < 1378228482 906485 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are kitten mortality complex < 1378228486 591137 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont ignore it < 1378228489 620859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'll write that. what's the average humanoïd mass in israel? < 1378228500 275795 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 < 1378228536 441004 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc dude < 1378228541 265324 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whacks Solain with a blubbery blue whale
< 1378228547 716640 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: what's your average body weigh man we're dying to know < 1378228548 227358 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Android 4.4 is named KitKat < 1378228548 718019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for some reason a large portion of the music I listen to is from Montréal < 1378228549 695085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss < 1378228559 82369 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im under-weigh < 1378228561 138785 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1378228569 798825 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1378228571 2869 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc < 1378228571 204592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :100lb? < 1378228575 137729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That's nice. Such as? =) < 1378228575 323628 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats lb? < 1378228577 402627 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't kgh < 1378228578 853105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pound < 1378228581 392695 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck lb < 1378228581 784086 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lb definition: pound. < 1378228582 314626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heathen units < 1378228586 459785 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pund < 1378228586 809712 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378228591 884383 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pound < 1378228592 298044 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :American jurist who was dean of Harvard Law School and wrote several influential books, including The Spirit of the Common Law. < 1378228593 159953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nice! amon tobin? l'orkestre des pas perdus? jérôme minière? arcade fire? < 1378228600 125482 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duuuuude < 1378228600 275325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GY!BE and their 50 side projects < 1378228604 33039 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude < 1378228605 220483 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's the same as 45 kg < 1378228607 7303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Stars < 1378228608 42326 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378228609 659594 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you 45 kg Solain < 1378228609 809461 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats just sick! < 1378228613 866344 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1378228617 339269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: can you stop flooding please? < 1378228618 450656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arcade Fire is pretty good too < 1378228621 477516 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1378228627 233257 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stars! <3 < 1378228636 40124 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it isnt flooding cause im on the web platform < 1378228642 982795 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is full screen < 1378228645 508988 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flooding is flooding - just say no < 1378228645 728586 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry anywys < 1378228651 371646 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said no < 1378228653 469051 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1378228654 46043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I like "of Montreal" but they are from Georgia :3 < 1378228655 571289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flooding: not even once. < 1378228656 429860 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i will stop < 1378228661 589336 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :end of deal < 1378228666 225003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I support and do so < 1378228668 567570 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you confusing man < 1378228687 364061 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should talk about music that isn't from montreal < 1378228688 493760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: was just trying to think of how to mention of montreal in re: the above < 1378228699 255400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, can anyone help me find why `? Solain doesn't work? =/ < 1378228708 731618 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1378228712 158034 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378228712 652812 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i work < 1378228713 710886 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378228714 155998 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378228715 10951 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378228715 593433 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378228720 877210 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no errors < 1378228724 196397 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? run cat wisdom/Solain < 1378228725 611424 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run cat wisdom/Solain? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378228725 915301 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            | < 1378228726 430593 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          o/`¯º < 1378228726 944945 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no dumps no memory < 1378228729 437279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378228731 471091 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/Solain < 1378228731 620877 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no nothing < 1378228732 613102 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378228737 256518 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not again < 1378228740 189283 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378228744 67568 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :solain returns 0 < 1378228752 63189 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAVE I BECOME YOUR MEME < 1378228755 424523 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. It's case-sensitive? < 1378228762 372271 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatis? < 1378228764 378114 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/Solain wisdom/solain < 1378228768 260704 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378228771 19619 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378228772 540254 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gawd dayum it < 1378228773 156973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378228776 387626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1378228779 514681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Thanks =) < 1378228793 849463 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im confused < 1378228796 166641 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1378228803 238049 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :new subject < 1378228810 168332 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anybody here read homestuck? < 1378228815 597953 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378228817 518451 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1378228822 456968 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1378228824 628167 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's never speak of this again < 1378228829 684922 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets do. < 1378228832 97718 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378228834 263338 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378228862 700851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homestuck < 1378228864 555048 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif < 1378228869 863740 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be happy to not speak of homestuck with you mnoqy. i was planning on doing that anyway. < 1378228879 132035 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AGREED < 1378228888 494375 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that gif < 1378228895 671541 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do i < 1378228905 987018 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks quintopia i'm glad you understand < 1378228919 76707 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck homestuck < 1378228919 467667 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck is a webcomic written, illustrated, and animated by Andrew Hussie, and is the fourth overall webcomic published on MS Paint Adventures. < 1378229026 283721 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a wonderful silence, someone has to ruin it < 1378229059 391376 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you say that every time nobody speaks for one and a half minute < 1378229070 993582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i read homestuck < 1378229074 252390 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that for the first time < 1378229077 939706 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you should < 1378229078 145820 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? silence < 1378229079 669861 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378229079 943694 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378229080 132950 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1378229080 562293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION repeatedly applies kinetic energy onto Solain with a +2 wooden curmudgeon of Blam
< 1378229081 827855 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should < 1378229084 4492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should read Ulysses first < 1378229091 883128 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :silence is a good means of not talking about homestuck < 1378229092 799133 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378229103 595620 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulysses is too long < 1378229104 357988 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinetic energy is best ergy < 1378229107 737834 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a very nice curmudgeon made of driftwood. very aerodynamic.) < 1378229135 187193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a curmudgeon is an old grumpy person < 1378229143 465603 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very grumpy < 1378229145 445044 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1378229152 560858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: and? I don't see any problem with that. < 1378229152 872964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you'd get more Blam with a cudgel < 1378229163 714646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not that violent. < 1378229169 429346 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck curmudgeon < 1378229169 778476 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curmudgeon definition: '''archaic''' miser. < 1378229175 195724 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1378229182 547669 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didnt help < 1378229199 514698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it did < 1378229205 430713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet it's pretty damn accurate < 1378229210 15795 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck miser < 1378229210 329416 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :miser definition: a mean grasping person; '''especially''' one who is extremely stingy with money. < 1378229213 825108 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it told you it once meant miser < 1378229219 543610 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :'''especially''' < 1378229221 798726 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck humus < 1378229222 181164 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In soil science, humus refers to any organic matter that has reached a point of stability, where it will break down no further and might, if conditions do not change, remain as it is for centuries, if not millennia. < 1378229226 803981 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hummus < 1378229227 163520 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hummus (-OEOQ5) is a Middle Eastern and Arabic food dip or spread made from cooked, mashed chickpeas blended with tahini, olive oil, lemon juice, salt and garlic. < 1378229232 969924 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good jon < 1378229234 795317 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :job < 1378229241 731743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Homestuck is like 6,000 pages... < 1378229246 753992 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378229248 133245 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome < 1378229250 979320 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Solain < 1378229251 611431 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to homestuck < 1378229252 902900 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you appear to be new here < 1378229262 21665 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you apper to be new here to me < 1378229264 398252 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Corneria! < 1378229266 299994 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hahaha < 1378229277 603288 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc dude, homestuck is long < 1378229280 63664 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very long < 1378229282 288375 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1378229287 839527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1378229296 481105 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curmudgeon type long < 1378229306 40406 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT long < 1378229332 87431 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :solain is spammy < 1378229343 293706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :grandiosely and profusely spammy < 1378229350 543738 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want me to shut up for a while? < 1378229366 743009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even possible? < 1378229370 496905 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378229372 864617 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just ask < 1378229403 862673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're volunteering, i'm more than willing to rubber-stamp your application < 1378229424 521292 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt understand 80% of that sentance < 1378229425 768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wraps Solain in Hello Kitty Duct Tape and hogties him to a ceiling in a very post-modern and decorative manner
< 1378229427 208315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll notorize < 1378229493 191894 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, i just ant to know where can i learn how to build an interepter and ill shut up for some good hours < 1378229512 571438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Write_Yourself_a_Scheme_in_48_Hours < 1378229518 71465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that you talk a lot, most of us do < 1378229536 836501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, erm. Some of us, anyway. < 1378229539 492409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's that < 1378229539 914917 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1378229540 599913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk < 1378229541 592244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this < 1378229543 113050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it < 1378229543 640317 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's pretty overkill imo < 1378229545 508697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is < 1378229548 3206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really annoying < 1378229560 574655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: more like underkill < 1378229569 42048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too close for missiles < 1378229570 233315 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about just plain old kill < 1378229570 382869 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try to type everything in one sentence, but it really kills my hands < 1378229596 521631 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the strangest excuse i've heard in quite some time < 1378229605 348686 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got used to typing in \n, and ijust cant shake it off < 1378229609 875227 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just afraid that attention will move away from you if you spend a minute without saying something < 1378229612 301124 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/kill < 1378229613 607755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry. it will. < 1378229614 13719 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/kill: No such file or directory < 1378229619 455406 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat kill | over | under | echo > wisdom/kill < 1378229622 893885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: under: command not found \ bash: over: command not found \ cat: kill: No such file or directory < 1378229655 521786 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can just talk in one sentence and attention still will be gotton (this is a total gramatic mistake) < 1378229675 357282 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it literally makes my arms hurt < 1378229693 343808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :get an ergonomic keyboard < 1378229716 938353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it hurt less to hit 'enter' more? < 1378229722 144413 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a gamer, ergonomics is what i need partly, so im going to get a new keyboard soon < 1378229742 537243 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first time i've heard someone describe themself as a gamer < 1378229750 313868 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a doctor when it comes to muscles < 1378229755 801220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy the kinesis contoured, it's amazincg < 1378229762 618916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn gotton is a quantum of attention. Solain drives the packet. < 1378229767 90318 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378229769 805759 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im buying the blackwidow 2013 < 1378229770 195738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote im not a doctor when it comes to muscles < 1378229773 410282 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1098) im not a doctor when it comes to muscles < 1378229783 91619 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1378229783 965477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1378229789 225049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18855 < 1378229807 632479 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BlackWIDOW ULTRA BigFoot DOMINATOR MurderKill XXXTREEME Gamer Keyboard < 1378229811 421038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with MILITARY GRADE CAPACITORS < 1378229814 625389 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TO THE MAXX < 1378229827 511114 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay im on the page < 1378229829 796510 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I have a Das Keyboard < 1378229831 656433 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yay < 1378229832 469245 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, people addquoted me in my absence! I... not quite resent that. in fact, I feel particularly flattered :) < 1378229854 18546 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still not in `pastequotes < 1378229856 220068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they make the build quality on das keyboards not awful yet? < 1378229873 793629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is fine < 1378229891 807495 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+kmc> BlackWIDOW ULTRA BigFoot''''' bigfoot? < 1378229893 579757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit Gregor send a charset UTF-8 header already < 1378229895 905172 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got the Ultimate version with MX Brown switched < 1378229900 361673 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/d/s/g < 1378229959 555740 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no idea why. you should have a sudden insanity surge à la fungot, mixed with elliottisms and say something that involves pineapples and a random nordic country. < 1378229959 742299 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: perhaps, if more and more dwarfs were coming to work much better :) draw'd it off, it wasn't. holy cow, i never claimed that the victim) subject:re: `which fnord echo < 1378229978 963359 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt really understand the page of < 1378229987 363253 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(shit) < 1378230025 507460 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt really understand the page of "build yourself a scheme in 48 hr", the first page says it teaches haskell < 1378230064 63813 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want to teach you a Haskell instead? < 1378230074 980206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1064 < 1378230076 546022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1064) I would like to learn how to use a sword And also how to ride a unicycle Perhaps not at the same time < 1378230086 324620 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i do not < 1378230105 103686 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1378230107 197278 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378230107 508504 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        | < 1378230107 694784 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      o/`¯º < 1378230116 527315 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOLAIN CANT COMPILE, ERROR ERROR < 1378230136 786631 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ? < 1378230176 541219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1037 < 1378230177 879848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1037) can sex be liberated from the von neumann position < 1378230178 484479 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not understand what is going on here, i want to learn how to build an interepter, is haskell part of it? < 1378230184 596532 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck haskell < 1378230185 126606 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell - A lazy purely functional language largely derived from Miranda but with several extensions. < 1378230189 994189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"several" < 1378230204 132746 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a language, i dont want to build my interepter in haskell < 1378230207 846387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/several/extensive/g < 1378230218 437978 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: what language do you want to use < 1378230218 626548 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378230222 275189 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C < 1378230224 756498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/extensive/a fungotload of/g < 1378230224 906102 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if it's ( syntactically) long, and brainfuck command keys. its a terrorst training video we better get gwb on to another crash < 1378230248 138500 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: You could start by making an interpreter of a known language < 1378230252 401063 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get the hang of it < 1378230259 612442 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make your own esolang and do it again ^^ < 1378230271 952853 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that clever, where do i start? < 1378230283 50196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: What does an interpreter do? < 1378230290 327890 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile the code < 1378230300 89480 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :flex the code then bison it up < 1378230302 457064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you reach metacircularity, you'll know you'll have started. < 1378230306 641461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :++quintopia < 1378230323 541282 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another thing, how do you msg people in irc? < 1378230334 775655 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: A compiler compiles, an interpreter interprets < 1378230350 762320 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part #esolang username msg < 1378230358 808975 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part #esoteric username msg < 1378230359 920280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1378230382 312527 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icemanind.com/ might help Solain < 1378230390 232426 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PART #esoteric :"Roujo test" < 1378230397 792840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy. fungot. < 1378230397 942589 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: am i that much bad. take up, boy; open't. so, now go with, do miscarrie, thou had'st bin resolute pompey < 1378230402 425125 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"virtual machine" is a way of obfuscating "interpreter" < 1378230411 238114 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's dead, Jim < 1378230419 373469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so am i < 1378230421 126196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves
< 1378230425 200356 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't we all < 1378230426 617023 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1378230429 237419 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378230430 362116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«ce n'est, qu'un au revoir, mon cher... ♪♪♪» < 1378230433 978672 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, Solain < 1378230434 488152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1378230450 143965 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you msg command got me out of the room and into a load of text < 1378230461 30370 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to sign right? < 1378230502 943176 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :To sign? < 1378230505 868740 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway (sorry for the /n), can you send the link again? i got out of the room before i opend it < 1378230516 978933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+quintopia> http://www.icemanind.com/ might help Solain < 1378230524 889050 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+quintopia> "virtual machine" is a way of obfuscating "interpreter" < 1378230625 326591 :conehead_!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378230632 308417 :coneehad!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378230692 456610 :coneehad!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead NICK :conehead < 1378230698 6022 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inter just runs the code < 1378230727 639354 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Solain someone's brother < 1378230736 483546 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont think so < 1378230764 610798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as we know < 1378230772 743587 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess it can be arranged < 1378230783 988162 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you sick bastard < 1378230794 539906 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Roujo and I are brother experts. < 1378230803 122805 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brothers in expertise < 1378230806 298476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: we should start a consulting cabinet for brotherly needs. < 1378230845 873225 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you bilogical brothers or social bros? < 1378230881 631255 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I'm holding my brother's college ID hostage < 1378230890 47245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give me advice how to proceed? < 1378230895 659456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: neither. that's too commonplace and plebeian a concept of brotherhood. nothing less than multiple bro-levels of enterprisey indirection. < 1378230915 777454 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Is there a REASON you're doing this? < 1378230918 393899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very canadiany indeed < 1378230919 194714 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like, quadrants of brotherhood? < 1378230921 900588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: go to bars. dispatch rubber ducks. < 1378230922 656211 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1378230923 754640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1006 < 1378230925 218509 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1006) Do you have a girlfriend, fungot? ThatOtherPerson: there's two. < 1378230931 903816 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1378230938 985120 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, he stole one of my tee-shirts < 1378230946 35552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT I WAS GOING TO USE FOR COSPLAY < 1378230950 561730 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, "quadrants"? < 1378230956 134470 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shoot < 1378230960 384970 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just duck it < 1378230965 683079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your brother is a meanie. you just don't do that. < 1378230966 445191 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck it < 1378230966 869775 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used to refer to that one previously mentioned. < 1378230972 253312 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1378230977 115541 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if yoy have doubt, just duck it! < 1378230979 923557 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1378230982 862776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck yoy < 1378230983 189526 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Yoy people are an ethnic group in Southeast Asia. < 1378230988 758491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_0 < 1378230992 814742 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :told ya < 1378230994 654986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: darn. you ninjaoyed me. < 1378231007 296553 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does the Crane Stance, Brother Variant
< 1378231017 401255 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck quadrants < 1378231017 838145 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrant definition: an instrument for measuring altitudes consisting commonly of a graduated arc of 90 degrees with an index or vernier and usually having a plumb line or spirit level for fixing the vertical or horizontal direction. < 1378231031 705233 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i type it wrong < 1378231035 706995 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you have a brother < 1378231035 856931 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: use the ' ' ' delete a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there? it's clearly not necessary to achieve the planned than fnord since no sign, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, < 1378231037 990417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I played that game. Got stuck in the spirit level, though. < 1378231070 959407 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for spam) < 1378231080 443476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :having an ouya is bad for your wallet. the games are cheap, so you pop them like a tube of pringles and the fun can't stop. < 1378231083 314162 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck quadrants < 1378231083 677170 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrant definition: an instrument for measuring altitudes consisting commonly of a graduated arc of 90 degrees with an index or vernier and usually having a plumb line or spirit level for fixing the vertical or horizontal direction. < 1378231086 756600 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378231104 59385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which by itself is perfectly fine, but I'd prefer to leave my wallet intact in the process.) < 1378231116 680663 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah, I should finally get mine soon < 1378231122 305636 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, soon-ish anyway < 1378231162 883105 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1378231164 305500 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, i'm tempted to be all like 'oh i heard it was shit' but even i'm getting annoyed with myself by now < 1378231185 200001 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shit < 1378231187 128526 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378231187 557695 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1378231187 707347 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1378231198 823532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378231199 245022 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      | < 1378231199 394836 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    o/`¯º < 1378231200 941852 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378231201 409966 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     |            | < 1378231201 558939 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   º¯`\o        o/`¯º < 1378231205 412782 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A PARTY < 1378231223 497603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it works well. the games are either retro, completely addictive, hilarious, or all of that at the same time. < 1378231246 888066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear this channel's more bots than people these days < 1378231255 283906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, please graph this trend < 1378231256 133692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is a bot. < 1378231264 342346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't we all; < 1378231272 208256 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*drums* < 1378231278 584070 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi's a hybrid, have we not been over this < 1378231291 614103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. sorry, my mem's faulty here. < 1378231305 952985 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1378231308 109946 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1378231311 413028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sticks a drumstick in Solain's ear and wiggle it a little
< 1378231346 457333 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1378231354 52400 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im try to learn how to build a VM here < 1378231367 723796 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are sticking sticks in my ear (thus the /n) < 1378231371 45969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#import "vm.h" < 1378231377 638362 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater < 1378231377 842434 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378231381 831965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include "vm.h" < 1378231387 456003 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4x00r < 1378231388 146157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my languages mixed up there < 1378231401 496737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wiggle* *wiggle* *wiggle* :D < 1378231415 654271 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, roujo, the link you sent? it contains a lot of assmebly < 1378231427 349104 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: That was quintopia < 1378231441 306353 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the point still stands that you can write an interpreter in any language < 1378231443 339087 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1378231455 856295 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can, but i dont know how < 1378231470 202661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picking ASM probably isn't the best idea ever < 1378231476 686715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're really good with ASM already < 1378231481 931084 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can also shoot light bolts from my head, but whats the point if i dont know how right? < 1378231508 103365 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i suck with asm, never understood it, never will < 1378231514 607300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing the drumstick is made of wood. wouldn't wand myself getting electrocuted here. < 1378231522 245780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Then don't do it with ASM < 1378231530 267744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do it in C, since you seem to like that < 1378231530 471485 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DONT WANT TO < 1378231557 111010 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont know how, i didnt find any type of link in google or tut or guide < 1378231559 871107 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anything < 1378231566 613776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about what it's supposed to do < 1378231576 725166 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define what it should do, and start from taht < 1378231578 418113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :that* < 1378231592 983232 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, my tee-shirt has been returned < 1378231600 776459 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus I have returned his college ID card < 1378231603 779890 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you kept the ID as collateral? < 1378231606 778113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378231620 946105 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT I HAVE AN C LEARNING BOOK WHICH CONTAINS A WHOLCE CHAPTER DEDICATED TO THIS < 1378231631 223083 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378231632 397125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck dielectric constant of a drumstick < 1378231632 712091 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378231641 508140 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im so dumb < 1378231644 98067 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so so dumb < 1378231670 539412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Caps Lock is cruise control for cool > "wisdom/caps lock" < 1378231674 66952 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378231690 616294 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only caps can demonstrate my anger < 1378231693 816136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: actual advice: start with Python. it is sane, and will help you build up interpreters in no time. < 1378231702 586008 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learnd python < 1378231709 922780 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun < 1378231716 458401 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, I have a C learning book which has obfuscation in the introduction < 1378231717 438192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: then you're free to go. all my public interps. are in python or ruby. < 1378231775 444669 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb, didnt catch the point; boily, i think you are right < 1378231776 955673 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1378231790 250826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, there really wasn't a point, I'm afraid < 1378231830 415374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I feel Chinese is even better at cruising than caps. you get full height double width chars! < 1378231836 252976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. 我種鱸魚鱸魚amanchée錯了！) < 1378231856 911694 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: well P: < 1378231863 886867 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Désolé, mais c'est du chinois pour moi =/ < 1378231883 346260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hook, line, sinker... I really walked into that one, eh? < 1378231963 136459 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats like the averge age range of active users in this irc? im asking this because im feel like im the youngest one here < 1378231988 833450 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember the good old days when I was the youngest person here < 1378231993 218033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That you did. Mostly the line part, though. The rest just follows your heart~~ < 1378231999 608622 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :except they were bad rather than good < 1378232002 492095 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That can be arranged in one of many ways < 1378232032 941033 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: darn that asiekierka < 1378232039 833325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think JesseH was the youngest. < 1378232053 839011 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you say? :) < 1378232059 849590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell asiekierka who are you? how do you appröximate? weigh weigh pon pon pon? < 1378232059 999391 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378232085 36079 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's going to be a wat moment. I hope I'm around. < 1378232096 525944 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, how old actually are you < 1378232106 853772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I reckon so, but you know the legendary bad state my memory is in. < 1378232116 964513 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by birthdays or years < 1378232134 159391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either < 1378232145 637362 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 birthdays, 16 years < 1378232185 564172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so bad; about a sixth of a cpressey. < 1378232192 666609 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey? < 1378232197 449622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sixth/third/ < 1378232203 957025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1378232205 823545 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mousse. < 1378232249 348701 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1378232251 291136 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mousse. < 1378232261 465572 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have quite a collection of bots here < 1378232276 656147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was serious about the 'more bots than people' part < 1378232291 986101 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasnt sure if you were joking < 1378232298 914758 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i know < 1378232308 691816 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows < 1378232317 673475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has won half the battle. < 1378232321 933849 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your stick out of my ear < 1378232326 701429 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378232328 141740 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :out < 1378232374 940135 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stick/non-euclidian apparatus/g < 1378232411 876275 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: nah. hth. < 1378232424 616424 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth? < 1378232428 363639 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck hth < 1378232428 729725 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378232433 289591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: ask oerjan :D < 1378232438 378608 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1378232444 471154 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me the robotic ways < 1378232497 369992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 'happy to help'; please stop using ~duck as a first line of inquiry < 1378232502 307529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: fetch an existing library. tweak what you want. expand. encompass. assimilate. < 1378232509 609654 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't it "hope that helps"? < 1378232516 561013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what have you got against my fine bot? :p < 1378232526 285314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: no, it's help from a hairy toe. < 1378232545 994539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo may in fact be right < 1378232559 773588 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LLBG < 1378232560 303646 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLBG 031820Z 28005KT 9999 FEW027 28/21 Q1010 NOSIG < 1378232572 983454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1378232574 761869 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1378232588 243291 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like something you'd put in < 1378232596 960370 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I object, your hönor < 1378232613 116281 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not duck, where do i get my first line of help from? hackego? you got to have a robot for that if you have so many robots < 1378232618 895306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "hope this helps" < 1378232626 379326 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have a robot for love < 1378232632 504758 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you do < 1378232639 406170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, your web browser < 1378232654 859159 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? what with it? < 1378232701 471413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1378232711 807132 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kidding < 1378232749 855172 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, any dude who programmed with python, what version of python is better: 2.7 or 3? i had arguments about this and alot < 1378232790 66789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you only want to hear from dudes < 1378232827 650532 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dudits are also good < 1378232835 544050 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"dude" is all encompassing < 1378232839 112110 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even pets and flowers are dudes < 1378232847 546837 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially flowers < 1378232889 319628 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to buy a cactus for our next dand session. < 1378232893 878860 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want me to change so much, in the end i will only say "hello im dave" and become one of your robots < 1378232898 314774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Python 3 is better in prinicple, but doesn't have the library support etc. just yet < 1378232907 896346 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx kmc < 1378232939 769745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't actually know any differences between the two beyond print being different < 1378232957 935781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they unfucked the Unicode support a bit < 1378232964 707189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly by renaming 'str' to 'bytes' and 'unicode' to 'str' < 1378232989 33529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also by being more strict about mixing them < 1378233031 223504 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as you used, libary support is problematic < 1378233036 167528 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1378233037 961383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a lot of stuff has changed to return iterators, so you don't need xrange or .iteritems() etc. < 1378233073 803132 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my contract states right here that I have to tell you the best version of python is called haskell 2010 < 1378233092 460748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, now that lenses have the haskelling sphere's attention, what about iteratees and such? < 1378233429 840777 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always found 64 bit installations of any kind be problamtic to my computer, doest matter what kind of program the prgram is, most of the if i will download a 64 bit installation of it i will have problems, 32 bit doesnt have them < 1378233444 259439 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel cursed < 1378233463 903531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your OS 32-bit? Because that would make things weird. < 1378233466 479991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i curse thee < 1378233482 713243 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse it is 64 bit < 1378233506 120296 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 8 ram of memory in pc < 1378233534 205423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 *whole* Rams? < 1378233541 924697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer goat memory. I feel it's more reliable, like a vinyl over a CD. < 1378233551 330261 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Dodging the question < 1378233559 217894 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whole? dual channel, 2 cards its 4 < 1378233559 368018 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I prefer goat memory. I feel it's more reliable, like a vinyl over a CD. < 1378233563 167808 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1099) I prefer goat memory. I feel it's more reliable, like a vinyl over a CD. < 1378233609 252636 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So I take it you prefer the goat's analog feel? < 1378233621 157132 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunken goats again? < 1378233639 444697 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/174/2/b/goat_meme_by_existtraiesc-d6ab6ga.jpg < 1378233643 939374 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378233657 414333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not go there < 1378233674 60835 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? feel the power almighty of the drunken goat < 1378233781 958503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION straps Solain with Christmas lights that strobe arhythmic patterns (and an Arduino to power them)
< 1378233808 673975 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you actually know what an arduino is? < 1378233818 306636 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo < 1378233824 89371 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the channel < 1378233825 886553 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now back to me < 1378233840 42760 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how this is chat < 1378233850 477170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, this is god < 1378233852 542887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378233853 315767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dog < 1378233864 652591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yeah, people here are pretty tech-savvy < 1378233874 307743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about people who make esolangs *for fun* < 1378233902 784210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :People to which a Turing Tarpit is both defined and a possible goal < 1378233927 765294 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inspiring words < 1378233929 412212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yes, people will probably know about Arduino, and they'll probably know a thing or two about robots.txt < 1378233972 62276 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet is a wonderful thing. You meet people of all types, with all kinds of background < 1378233983 457789 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A carp a day, they said. Well, they were right. < 1378234034 467939 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got used to hangout with people that are only in one tech group or another, so getting to know people who a moderate amount a some groups quite alot of these people at once is new to me < 1378234057 262668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes < 1378234100 156700 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, a dude who both programs and both is an (i dont know th word in english) *works with elctric circuits* is quite unsusual to me < 1378234117 770947 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite it is two totally different genres from my point of view < 1378234123 238115 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mostly that there's a lot of overlap here < 1378234130 187627 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :overlap? < 1378234152 285883 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As individuals, we don't know everything. As a channel, we do. < 1378234196 932131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a computer engineer, I overlap over myself :D < 1378234209 279611 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can never know everything, because if you dont know something than how you dont know that you dont know it < 1378234220 830600 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it < 1378234225 111076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try not to < 1378234230 94841 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehehehe < 1378234237 171468 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can know that you don't know something < 1378234255 130062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I don't know how to cook squid < 1378234267 28258 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know what cooking and squid is < 1378234270 258165 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your point? < 1378234274 551434 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1378234276 335627 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think outside the box < 1378234281 263929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no box < 1378234289 638781 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is pumpkin < 1378234295 306875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glory to the Wise < 1378234303 381045 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glory to the hypnotoad < 1378234353 840626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wires up 30 amperes on Solain's lights...
< 1378234364 494509 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do type like that < 1378234368 807364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fnord to the fungot < 1378234368 957399 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i would like to join? the hell < 1378234380 559 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whta? < 1378234410 554081 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much of you are robots? < 1378234416 545777 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :50%? < 1378234443 485992 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lots < 1378234445 29666 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378234445 321604 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1378234445 471495 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1378234451 378181 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? lots < 1378234453 93517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? lots? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378234453 374660 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378234453 542877 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1378234469 105287 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1378234481 498921 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make people dance, too < 1378234484 649913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ < 1378234486 999651 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378234490 443053 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it again? < 1378234497 830592 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1378234500 375987 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want ot know how to type like you < 1378234500 526068 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1378234503 878767 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`celebrate < 1378234504 571106 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be fun < 1378234505 176844 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: celebrate: not found < 1378234519 139848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1378234519 289729 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378234519 694647 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1378234519 844494 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  c.c  >\ /| |   |     >\ c.c  |\    |    /| |/´\ c.c /| < 1378234519 994215 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯'\                 /'\ < 1378234520 143788 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    |_)             (_| |_) < 1378234530 518241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. Thanks, olsner < 1378234536 756372 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks olsner < 1378234537 803032 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, olsner. Tholsner. < 1378234548 292029 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Just use your keyboard to type, it works pretty well so far. < 1378234553 714843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks thanks < 1378234555 1124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, thanks. Thanks. < 1378234556 537050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: learn the Way of the IRC. everything is a /part of the great whole. < 1378234556 686836 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha < 1378234590 169646 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :./gimme didnt work, so didnt /su nor /help or /man < 1378234632 112940 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION switches on the lights from far away, wearing a pair of tempered glass goggles
< 1378234634 476550 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want my cookiez, my lovely irc flavuored cookiez < 1378234664 217240 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch your lightz how much you want, im not in than anymore, your beloved teddy bear is < 1378234681 850716 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe hihi hoho < 1378234704 14352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, he's gone mad < 1378234708 698242 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is that a new record? < 1378234711 425548 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378234725 375985 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378234735 102130 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello dessos < 1378234748 459186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I guess so. from my quite sane standpoint, I concur. < 1378234757 617840 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not mad < 1378234776 797705 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wanted to melt my skin off with christmas lights, if someone is mad it is you! < 1378234817 101383 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to top off the crime with sin, you added an arduino to the mix < 1378234878 876204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course he did < 1378234893 43828 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's no fun if you can't overclock the PCB, innit? < 1378234981 155493 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, why does "coördinate" only parse as a noun and not as a verb for me? < 1378234989 495247 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brakes the arduino into small tiny tiny tiny tiny pieces
< 1378234993 271058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's a noun? < 1378235005 953467 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, coordinate is also a verb < 1378235008 912597 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: There you go. Lv2 in IRCing now. Keep it up. < 1378235014 272755 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. coordinating people < 1378235015 543140 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but coördinate isn't. < 1378235057 3056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... uhm... poëtic liberty applied to a wonderful word that scans so well. so it's a verbal noun, I say. < 1378235082 546398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vrbng4ever < 1378235138 391040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not an い-adjective. I never quite got over the fact that you have to conjugate the adjective, not the verb. < 1378235141 570776 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378235153 955929 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's the resident diaeresologist/lexicographer? < 1378235160 88885 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@Override < 1378235160 239371 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1378235160 239533 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : public void onUpgrade(SQLiteDatabase arg0, int arg1, int arg2) { < 1378235160 239650 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : // Useless, as there is only One True Version of the Database so far < 1378235160 239755 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1378235170 785435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this. < 1378235172 554783 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good argument naming too < 1378235183 900419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generated code =P < 1378235188 380561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think it's me, even if my views are considered unorthodox by some of this channel's regulars. < 1378235198 504689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but you're french? < 1378235210 560560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is < 1378235219 890384 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Canadian. there's a big nuance. < 1378235255 482924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :French Canadian. So yeah < 1378235265 248128 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: public void onUpgrade(SQLiteDatabase database, int fromVersion, int toVersion) < 1378235270 214547 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed it for you =P < 1378235302 427754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ouais bon, on s'ostinera pas sur des détails sémantiques de même, là là... < 1378235321 654291 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :יהיה לכם נוח אם אני אדבר בעברית? אה? < 1378235326 734214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, did you have a diæ̈retic question? < 1378235354 739837 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378235374 801383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: I catch the 'hi hi' at the end, but the rest stumps me. I guess that's also a 'ha?', but I'm not sure. < 1378235469 794958 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, the coördinate (n) vs coördinate (v) thing < 1378235486 700047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :both should work if either works, right? < 1378235494 350048 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it is so. < 1378235533 209961 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: excellent < 1378235535 82961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: you can hebrew, しかし僕は日本語で話しているwww^^ < 1378235585 873967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of words, I wonder who came up with moving the stress aroudn in excellent and excel < 1378235708 6509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't the first “e” stressed? < 1378235720 461451 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stressed" < 1378235722 350687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This checks out < 1378235787 353204 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378235836 988789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dictionary.com gives them as ik-*sel* and *ek*-suh-luhnt < 1378235916 964180 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, it says "legit" is "luh-*git*", so meh < 1378235925 426486 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you what is the main problem living in israel? no good books in hebrew nor english < 1378235937 935025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Learn Japanese then < 1378235938 122365 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they dont import any kind of books relating to computers < 1378235943 301771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that is how it's said < 1378235947 80386 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:18] they dont import any kind of books relating to computers < 1378235953 944786 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any kind < 1378235957 275340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just quote yourself? < 1378235961 689742 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378235964 725672 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1378236016 141942 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just clarified myself in this situation in praticular < 1378236058 915070 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: In non-Canadia, mayhaps < 1378236189 285043 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird, how do canadians say legit then? < 1378236243 476248 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :luh-*git* < 1378236256 526350 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't say it that way for the longest time < 1378236271 583922 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't help that I never heard it out lound until about 3 months ago < 1378236275 943299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378236279 939501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was about a year ago < 1378236282 617435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time flies~~ < 1378236309 273452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, with a hard(?) g instead of j? < 1378236338 225647 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, the same < 1378236373 20614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that most French-Canadians I know didn't pronounce it right < 1378236387 838145 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until they were exposed to it < 1378236391 999527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely my friends and I =P < 1378236405 338599 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378236414 428815 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I say «légitime». so there. hth. < 1378236454 649566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise, if I'm forced to say it in English, then *leh*-djit.) < 1378236462 657776 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1378236500 674331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand who says what how anymore < 1378236607 745027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :People talk, sounds come out, such is life in the valley < 1378236682 86574 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1378236695 355639 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378236891 562755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's easy. people say thing, and they usually understand each other. /se.bɛ̃.sẽp.lə.mɔ̃d.sə.diz.de.za.fäːʀ.pi.da.bi.ʦyd.i.sə.kɔ̃.pʀɛn/ < 1378236931 766700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/thing/things/ < 1378236949 614388 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1378236973 617437 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome PixelToast < 1378236976 297297 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14PixelToast: We05lcome to th05e05 intern08at11ional hub11 for esot10eric 09prog06ramming 02l11anguage 07desig09n and deployme04nt! For more in06fo02rmat12ion, ch13eck o10ut our wiki: http:/09/esolangs.org/wiki/Mai03n04_Page02. (12For the other08 k10ind of02 esoterica,02 t11ry #esoteric o08n irc.dal.n07et.) < 1378237066 515532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh god. I got it, but oh god. < 1378237088 252102 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: phonetically written french is pretty hard to decipher < 1378237112 629761 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :diz = say, kɔ̃.pʀɛn = understand? plus a bunch of words inbetween? < 1378237120 836131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: sorry, couldn't resist :D < 1378237136 140645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially for «des afaaaèr») < 1378237151 145599 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Pretty much, yeah < 1378237196 109515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive, me *pats self* < 1378237265 38084 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1378237267 16684 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcoming < 1378237267 708062 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1378237280 353128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PixelToast: oh, you already were `relcommed. my bad. < 1378237311 377671 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive been relcommed 9 times, and WeLcOmEd 4 times, i forget what else < 1378237337 289786 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up and sees that she was pinged about sushi
< 1378237339 905666 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmEd fell out of fashion some time ago, I reckon < 1378237406 671837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you have an usb sushi quote somewhere. how does IC sashimi taste like? < 1378237406 890399 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone metion sushi < 1378237418 922679 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I also understood what you said WITH THAT HORRIBLE ACCENT I'm not sure I should be proud of that < 1378237449 895028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE Roujo < 1378237452 312771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :RoUjO: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1378237455 222997 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1378237458 827577 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What have I done < 1378237459 462319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: mwah ah ah. MWAH AH AH AH AH AH! ^^ < 1378237502 421803 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um. IC sashimi? < 1378237504 250596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the [ʦ] isn't official anymore, but I was too lazy to tie t and s. < 1378237511 607218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote sushi < 1378237513 38999 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :828) what does it mean for a pencil to be turing complete.... monqy: it's the same concept as USB sushi, really \ 829) usb sushi is dangerous. I think I would try to eat it \ 1049) i think delivery sushi is one of those habits that can rapidly consume all of one's money like cocaine \ 1059) the trou < 1378237513 208830 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is the robot typing like a homestuck character? not to mention a homestuck character who drives the bus < 1378237522 483776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1378237606 841461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.... don't think I've ever eaten USB sushi -_- < 1378237610 50968 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1059 < 1378237611 431081 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1059) the trouble with sushi is that it's often made of dead fish < 1378237616 577909 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 1059 < 1378237620 872547 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* the trouble with sushi is that it's often made of dead fish < 1378237637 268232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ... do you highlight on 'sushi'? < 1378237669 603413 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: someone pinged me < 1378237672 880160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :寿司？鮨？すし？スシ？ < 1378237677 102138 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05 <@elliott> Solain: fiora, is that you? :o < 1378237682 579963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sushings Fiora
< 1378237688 718107 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is shushsed
< 1378237690 583965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sushed < 1378237738 617781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google translates that as "Sushi? Sushi? Sushi? Sushi?" < 1378237752 106811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I was checking if Fiora was hilited. < 1378237776 15305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She was < 1378237798 982144 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sous chef? she's shushing sushi < 1378237849 912808 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence shall be known as the Shachaf Shongue Shwishter. < 1378237910 859657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Fiora < 1378237912 614396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora is half JRPG fangirl, half SIMD dork, and all sucrose. < 1378237931 202966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Fiora is half JRPG fangirl, half SIMD dork, and all sucrose. She's a sous-chef who shushes sushi. < 1378237936 29179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378237946 275606 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378237978 670699 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good at making sushi -_- < 1378237990 983544 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you good at shushing it < 1378238000 360410 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378238008 661930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?  < 1378238010 355463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378238010 621084 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1378238010 770787 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     o/`¯º < 1378238030 146507 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that even mean ._. < 1378238041 321777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does sushi tend to talk when you're around < 1378238075 149285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"don't eat me, Fiora! i used to be alive and have fish feelings!" < 1378238076 961611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go!" < 1378238077 106671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378238079 601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what sushi says to me < 1378238143 535712 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm eating dead rice and dead avocado and dead seaweed too ;_; < 1378238159 898181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but who ever heard of talking rice < 1378238164 603417 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: why does sushi call you Fiora? < 1378238166 454207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378238182 786312 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not sure. sushi doesn't tend to have eyes < 1378238209 47229 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore you must smell like Fiora < 1378238218 73261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible! < 1378238253 32427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: who do you smell like? does vinegared dead fish talk to you? how do you feel at the sight of an USB stack? < 1378238313 413067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I smell like me, I suppose. I don't think anything dead is talking to me. < 1378238343 925410 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :such boily questions < 1378238402 417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go!" < 1378238405 864009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378238543 537770 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you will note that he failed to address the third question < 1378238598 681332 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking rice people? this is almost as drunken goats < 1378238605 290487 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378238610 986885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: that was subtly recorded and filed as soon as he answered. zzo38 is a very suspicious person already. < 1378238626 528145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION SMACKS Solain with a penguin plushie
< 1378238645 795408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suspicious? < 1378238655 391770 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION SMACKS boily with a broken hard drive
< 1378238671 121551 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont have plushies < 1378238681 827822 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only broken electronics < 1378238699 875478 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, in english you've got only one word for "suspicious" and "suspicious", right? < 1378238707 681657 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's confusing < 1378238732 654070 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen, are you by any chance from israel? < 1378238733 471008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: «suspicieux», I meant to say. < 1378238741 338564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know the English can have some confusing words (so can other languages, though) < 1378238754 922985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that the one as in likely to suspect other people? or the other one? < 1378238815 687228 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm pretty sure you meant "suspect" < 1378238821 713482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hi < 1378238853 330586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suspect? < 1378238856 688307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: I can't confirm or deny that assertion. < 1378238865 852778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ail. < 1378238889 99956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378238898 462733 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378238975 769502 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I understand < 1378239077 994410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1378239083 571707 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19463 < 1378239254 887067 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i there, i still cant comprehend what is so funny abot what i said < 1378239258 397964 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378239288 824190 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378239294 557489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote solain < 1378239295 937211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1097) im not a doctor when it comes to muscles < 1378239330 39836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a clear side splitter, that < 1378239347 744719 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :side splitter? < 1378239348 677247 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i finally understood what is funny, i got confused between one profession and another < 1378239357 141062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you mean I am "a very suspicious person already"? Do you have a clarification? < 1378239429 376291 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid he wouldn't clarify or obfuscate that assertion < 1378239444 68503 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 158 < 1378239445 762564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :158) HOT SEXY SEX BITS < 1378239453 978199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: above statement may contain traces of sarcasm < 1378239524 59092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note that google's top suggestion for "may contain t" is "may contain traces of human flesh" < 1378239543 782123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for me, anyhow. maybe norwegians are just particularly gruesome.) < 1378239544 531988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1378239544 681924 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 5h 25m 48s ago: what is a level? < 1378239553 790707 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's based on your search history oerjan < 1378239559 472352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In what context do you mean a level? < 1378239583 178098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: O ... KAY ... SORRY, I MAY HAVE TO KILL YOU ALL NOW < 1378239583 875277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: we were wondering why you always refered to level20.tex. < 1378239604 586700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no problem with that. you'll have to visit Canada! < 1378239612 611764 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that might just make your search history more gruesome < 1378239622 313668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there is that. < 1378239623 706324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is the starting experience level of this game. < 1378239645 462917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Due to level adjustment, our actual levels are lower than twenty) < 1378239656 144598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i think i finally understood what is funny, i got confused between one profession and another < 1378239666 812473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doctors are meant to know about muscles... < 1378239692 641451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: i thought it was only that personalized if you had a google account? < 1378239696 815722 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. that clarifies many obscure corners of the thing. < 1378239715 438604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK. What obscure corners do you mean, specifically? < 1378239725 539746 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric : doctors are meant to know about muscles... ;;;;; i wish i could explain myself in english, rather than hebrew < 1378239730 417235 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1378239733 359793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and otherwise was location based. wait, does that mean there's a serial killer nearby. < 1378239753 379385 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found some games coded on brainfuck, want links anyone? < 1378239766 337078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Are they others than the one I already found? < 1378239790 932258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION knows only of lost kingdom
< 1378239817 908595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: pretty sure they track some stuff to a cookie even if you don't have an account, though not sure how detailed < 1378239881 790582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the ones we were discussing about, I guess. I don't know for sure, they were obscure. < 1378239896 172527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and some conjectures about the le-vel20 cipher.) < 1378239898 201382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, being perhaps the largest real bf program (although generated from basic) is a common interpreter/compiler damnmybrainismissingwordsagain < 1378239921 123111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It has nothing to do with some cipher; the file "level20.tex" is a Dungeons&Dragons game. < 1378239931 52673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thingamabob? whatchamacallit? < 1378239934 941712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you read it you should know why it is called that, actually) < 1378239963 446611 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: too logical. < 1378239975 957312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too logical? < 1378239981 534306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1378240002 472021 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378240023 246945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: please translate for Solain < 1378240043 385950 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378240043 535591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What is being too logical, and what is wrong with too logical? < 1378240051 357345 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: help < 1378240054 468083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :translate what < 1378240064 99094 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i have no idea too lolz* < 1378240074 239742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378240099 613504 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could post the links (and/or titles of games) if you want to, I suppose < 1378240104 142228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anything he doesn't know how to explain in english < 1378240115 476509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: logic goes counter to my laziness. reading the document would be too straightforward. < 1378240138 228396 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have advanced in technology, nowdays we have google translate for that, thank you for the offer anyway < 1378240144 464619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no, i don't think those are the word. < 1378240152 897145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, that's what you mean. Well, too bad, then. It cannot possibly be understood without reading it (I think). < 1378240153 280650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: Phantom_Hoover is saying some nonsense about monoids < 1378240166 737989 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I've heard it claimed that the bird is the word < 1378240167 679125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: but that only leaves you open to even more hilarious mistakes < 1378240179 895557 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should i make of this? < 1378240187 340966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know I'm losing valuable information here, but tomorrow I'll have begun to think about procrastinating from reading it. < 1378240193 244445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :make distclean < 1378240201 277712 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no m8 < 1378240203 817785 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im on windows < 1378240213 661513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What books do you read? < 1378240264 683808 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game names are: "taking over the world" ; "finally taking over the world" ; "the brainfucked lone wolf" ; link: http://fora.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=53146 bottom of the page < 1378240281 438842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of "taking over the world" ; "finally taking over the world" games < 1378240284 38834 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: still trying to finish the Hyperion Cantos, but I got sidetracked with the Vorkosigan Saga lately. < 1378240290 543596 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: welllllllll hmmmmmm I'm pretty sure the suggestions google provides me with have evolved with what I've been searching for < 1378240321 517350 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a google account, and I flush all sessions / cookies / whatever every time I exit the browser < 1378240324 298292 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw oerjan, what kind of mistakes? the kind of dr,muscles? < 1378240374 330072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, then read mine afterward. < 1378240382 974810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll copy it to my kobo. < 1378240399 336769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: MAYBE < 1378240408 414394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will kobo load this file? You can try, I suppose. < 1378240421 744231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how kobo works so I wouldn't know < 1378240423 886935 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan IM LEARNING BILOGY AT SCHOOL, SO NAH < 1378240440 682029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theory of biles < 1378240449 987965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncle Muscles Hour < 1378240451 379982 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan cross-cultural mistakes CAN and will happen < 1378240466 122348 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and always < 1378240475 699112 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar mistakes < 1378240492 682668 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for /n) < 1378240496 401087 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: like in humoral medicine? < 1378240496 550964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm just going to pdflatex it, then copy it over through calibre. < 1378240509 792752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably < 1378240582 489566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the four humors are black bile, yellow bile, phlegm and blood < 1378240604 601317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't think that will work. I also don't know what calibre is. If you need PDF, try downloading "dungeonsrecording.tex" as well, run "tex level20", answer the question, and then DVI->PDF. (Maybe pdftex will work too, but that isn't guaranteed to work with anything other than the one true TeX.) < 1378240638 574426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh hm. well. in that case, no kobo. < 1378240643 679011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can also download the .DVI which is already compiled) < 1378240654 803510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: well that's ok, as long as you are prepared for the resulting puns. < 1378240655 981399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(calibre is an e-reader library management software.) < 1378240666 937084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I'll go with the dvi. < 1378240681 453899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have "pdflatex" then you probably have "tex" installed too; it comes standard with all TeX installations. < 1378240734 736232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the original Pure TeX installed, but I tend to stay away from it. it scares me. < 1378240736 877007 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo < 1378240744 17921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why does it scare you? < 1378240744 193816 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did my msg go? < 1378240746 632997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ^echo < 1378240746 782897 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ^echo < 1378240758 573859 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want me to type ping? test? < 1378240766 358807 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to test lag somehow < 1378240769 938708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: hearing you loud and clear < 1378240801 205638 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not going to ping at the literal way < 1378240805 846443 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :geeks < 1378240816 920461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: i pinged you. no autoresponse, though. < 1378240835 24705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DR OM SOLAIN UR 559 KN < 1378240861 559892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did poor Solain get trapped in ~metar ? < 1378240930 508790 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosigns_for_Morse_code < 1378241041 185877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the page doesn't seem to provide enough information to decode your message < 1378241086 753255 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar boily < 1378241087 264456 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1378241249 60735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I told him that I receive him correctly, clear and loud. < 1378241261 297689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378241261 774376 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 032000Z 23016KT 30SM FEW030TCU BKN065 22/14 A2970 RMK TCU2SC5 SLP057 DENSITY ALT 1100FT < 1378241271 627439 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, TCU again tonight! it's gonna be fun! < 1378241290 876089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is TCU? < 1378241304 522333 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how did you end up learning about metar? < 1378241366 945007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: towering cumulus. usually an indicator of incoming thunderstorms ☺ < 1378241381 604184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378241383 90318 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: eeeeeh... probably one of many wikiwalks. < 1378241686 498317 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PART :#esoteric < 1378241814 509581 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378241830 497441 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh goody < 1378241837 347613 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no command typing < 1378241845 411752 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx oerjan < 1378242080 538386 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378242222 184164 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378242223 483409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Question of Public Interest: who is cakeprophet? < 1378242263 937232 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of (past?) esoteric regular < 1378242279 133854 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote cakeprophet < 1378242280 590940 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :112) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just stealing the universe's work and passing it off as our own. \ 113) CakeProphet: reading herbert might be enlightening in one hand he held a long worm can be < 1378242313 667172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oic. tdh. < 1378242330 832669 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cakeprophet < 1378242332 698363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:> < 1378242335 18434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not entirely past, but not here very often, and by a different nick (not here right now.) < 1378242349 533435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not _talking_ very often, anyway. < 1378242421 513209 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you mean some of the idlers is him in disguise? < 1378242437 192231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1378242639 50931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not at the moment, and i cannot quite remember when he was here last. < 1378242655 41577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen kallisti < 1378242660 166149 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-05 23:26:00: good times. < 1378242677 432765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen olsner < 1378242681 920168 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-03 21:11:17: `seen olsner < 1378242685 125998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was trying not to mention his nick, not that it is particularly secret. < 1378242686 526553 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1378242688 89737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen ais523 < 1378242692 182985 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-31 19:31:49: Happy Australian Mailman Mailing List Reminders Day! < 1378242705 628870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks elliott < 1378242706 878265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, elliott. Thelliott. < 1378242756 662089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks `thanks < 1378242758 120710 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, `thanks. Thanks. < 1378242775 676755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found another way to make LaTeX choke: ◇. < 1378242799 94702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :REVERSE ASPHYXIATION SYMBOL < 1378242934 563894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \emph{Bike is from Luxembourg.}\footnote{Note that Bike's eyes in quote 1018 > 1378243141 917424 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378243143 376669 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1378243146 68090 JOIN :#esoteric > 1378243146 583698 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378243148 775638 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378243149 282633 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378243152 250362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't prevent blaming boily < 1378243159 711730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see if it happens again... < 1378243159 857297 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378243160 541760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huzzah! < 1378243164 536420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote \emph{Bike is from Luxembourg.}\footnote{Note that Bike's eyes in quote 1018 < 1378243171 373731 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378243171 519293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR SCIENCE < 1378243175 607984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1378243179 325565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 117) cpressey: I have actually done a waterfall-model project that almost worked That's where you have a flexible kayak that bobs and weaves between the rocks as it plummets off the cliff < 1378243180 51870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :now remove it and input the real quote < 1378243180 514839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep: unmatched parentheses < 1378243194 222010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh, unsanitized grep input! < 1378243215 516689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as you can see, I'm processing the quote db for inclusion in the wisdom.) < 1378243283 728043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the numbers are not part of the quote. < 1378243298 211370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thus the numbering can change btw) < 1378243307 144085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bummer. < 1378243360 664324 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to vim macro the fungot out of those quotes... (except quotes with fungot. he's kinda important for those one.) < 1378243360 809797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:. i'm so kind, even to assholes! anmaster no not markov anmaster no not markov < 1378243363 764128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bike is from < 1378243365 427499 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378243378 418306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bike < 1378243380 699496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1378243383 820269 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: was that an expletive fungot? < 1378243383 965895 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going fast and such an apparently non-standard format is being dimensioned by assigning dimensions to them; and sets. maybe thats what them meant by experimental selected so it probably no longer the wand the better part made mercie, i should think at least, that is expressions which have not been able to < 1378243467 733669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitting every stupid person: a mindless game. < 1378243516 400306 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, and fast people are being dimensioned by assigning dimensions to them < 1378243518 28223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think fizzie partially tolerates that practice. < 1378243525 44281 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot? < 1378243525 189495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: c has an ignore restarter, restart/ ignore do? the symbols, pairs, procedures, and so am i just being anal here or am i misunderstanding how these were the people skills of a plane < 1378243557 194478 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems to be a bit fixated on this asshole thing < 1378243557 339925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is. absorb it on my door, which was just perceptibly fnord and this yields nothing itself; it keeps being removed, the queen. i see no sense < 1378243601 412306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes fungot with an auricular drumstick
< 1378243601 594122 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave? fnord 06:22, 29, no. 2, 2, 3, 4, 8, 13, 1(::**) ...bad insn! < 1378243808 533298 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :auricular drumstick? < 1378243880 451712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the same one that went into solain's ear. < 1378243902 360367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed that, I think < 1378244017 271851 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... < 1378244023 613041 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote but at what cost < 1378244025 216850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :862) i bet a blog post complaining about ");});});" syntax in JavaScript and comparing it unfavorably to Lisp would get approximately one billion comments on hacker news but at what cost? your very soul, kmc! < 1378244035 484217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... quote is causing me some problems. < 1378244056 971388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems that will be solved tomorrow. I want sushis. < 1378244059 294288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to bold or due to );});});? < 1378244068 831858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter. bold is easy. < 1378244080 19153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: 寿司！ < 1378244083 559013 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378244086 887559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... but putting }s in text is hard? < 1378244092 660899 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :loltex < 1378244333 830324 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist phonecall < 1378244335 342346 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist phonecall: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378244361 648910 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mindfang~ < 1378244513 719712 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the olist < 1378244615 739058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, help I don't like where it is going < 1378244633 190965 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very very much like where this is going :3 < 1378244649 167439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes that's as far as i've got logreading yet < 1378244920 429388 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, Fiora, oerjan: I like where this is going! < 1378244948 165091 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but Aranea is being evil! < 1378244973 365438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1378244977 157777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like tarquin is being evil < 1378244988 626325 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what th hell, tarquin < 1378244991 302417 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's just what he does < 1378245022 166075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just, like, killed his own son, man < 1378245030 231791 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378245030 574527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spoilers hth) < 1378245043 181037 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1378245065 498614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: apparently you can't write a destructor for an enum, either < 1378245109 679421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ?? < 1378245123 56241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should an enum be treated differently from a struct in that regard < 1378245188 863625 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, but Aranea is plotting to destroy an entire universe to prevent the creation of one person! < 1378245218 168424 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, less "destroy" and more "render infertile" < 1378245226 635296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: beats me < 1378245227 691945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aranea is plotting to neuter an entire universe! < 1378245268 327056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an" entire universe?? < 1378245292 157375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you expect that to even work? It won't prevent the creation of a person if it is the universe which is being destroyed. < 1378245293 210018 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, it's homestuck. < 1378245303 125945 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, zzo should destroy the universe. < 1378245306 472076 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo it's not a universe if there's more than one < 1378245307 504094 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least three universes < 1378245313 759428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1378245323 7418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tetraverse < 1378245345 518131 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a semiverse < 1378245357 816735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should anyone destroy the universe? < 1378245372 800812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, *how* should anyone destroy the universe? < 1378245379 295914 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know zzo, you're the one doing it. < 1378245395 72768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't know the answers to those questions? < 1378245397 328650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo you better get on that < 1378245425 934757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it wouldn't help. < 1378245486 771920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/destroy < 1378245490 265348 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start from here, work up < 1378245535 202369 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1378245539 59548 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378245558 746211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about destroying the Earth before, but I don't think we should destroy any planets. < 1378245608 841479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the planet of the earth-destroyers < 1378245617 73700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, it isn't desoying the universe. < 1378245656 990300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't destroy that planet either. (Hopefully it won't collide with the Earth.) < 1378245671 29356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Destroying the universe is different anyways; you cannot destroy the universe by destroying its parts. < 1378246082 369711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm i wonder if they will have to escape this attack by entering the gate < 1378246245 877582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe cannot be created or destroyed. Mathematics is the only thing that is real. < 1378246258 287689 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, destroy mathematics, then < 1378246259 551896 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1378246269 157465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impossible. Mathematics cannot be destroyed either. < 1378246296 944619 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very real of it < 1378246325 556709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think the universe may have a knack for mercilessly ignoring your opinion on how it works < 1378246343 493451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you are correct, but that doesn't change it. < 1378246358 609299 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is also ignoring *your* opinion on how it works. < 1378246379 450167 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe sounds like kind of a dick < 1378246382 73695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1378246450 296653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you are mix up. Universe is the, made of spacetime, and of mathematics; not "kind of a dick" and so on. < 1378246537 362778 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying, if this dude is ignoring some cool guys like you maybe it has some emotional issues. < 1378246622 308105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What dude? < 1378246718 866146 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the universe. < 1378246757 193131 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't it. < 1378246762 176033 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the universe" is not a "dude" < 1378246799 443318 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a literal dude. < 1378246803 540967 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, like, a dude dude. < 1378246817 274215 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that character in the big lebowski? < 1378246817 609401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1378246832 784805 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that the universe is a dude but not a dude dude, dude. < 1378247147 63726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote No, you are mix up. Universe is the, made of spacetime, and of mathematics; not "kind of a dick" and so on. < 1378247151 377471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1099) No, you are mix up. Universe is the, made of spacetime, and of mathematics; not "kind of a dick" and so on. < 1378247158 284767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think this kind of zzo38-quote is fair game < 1378247168 420648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't know. < 1378247287 568126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/goat* < 1378247289 209132 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/goat*: No such file or directory < 1378247295 956801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/goat* < 1378247297 948133 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/goats < 1378247312 713842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/goat{s,} < 1378247316 566269 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247322 300594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one wisdom? that is absurd, goats are full of wisdoms < 1378247327 328339 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? goat < 1378247329 383047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goats are drunk 24/7, ask Solain for details. < 1378247347 479338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there's also a unicode goat wisdom, but you have to know how to get to it < 1378247417 63940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unigoat < 1378247491 74817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls *s < 1378247493 181240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlops \ chess \ devious \ doodads \ for further details \ friends \ gonads \ inverness \ lens \ logs \ lystrosaurus \ maths \ monoids \ oceans \ qdbrules \ ssstosis \ the us \ this \ torus \ united states \ welcome.es \ west midlands \ zomgmodules < 1378247510 930398 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ssstosis < 1378247512 898041 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssstosis is a disease causing false identities < 1378247565 572583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oceans < 1378247567 734768 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pacific ocean is half the world and surrounded by fire. The atlantic ocean is less cool than its giant underwater moutain range. The arctic ocean is cold. The indian ocean is full of typhoons and non-eurocentric shipping. < 1378247576 987964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ocean < 1378247578 639736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocean? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247578 905415 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378247579 79217 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1378247593 492377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/ocean{s,} < 1378247597 207414 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247606 731877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botlop < 1378247608 117487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlop? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247608 412118 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378247608 594210 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1378247609 355599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botlops < 1378247611 95185 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :botlops are the core of botsentiences. Sapience is scheduled for the next release. < 1378247616 311334 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? 🐐 < 1378247618 451974 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🐐 <(Unicode goat laments your inability to render Unicode goat.) < 1378247621 557611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/botlop{s,} < 1378247625 370611 :PixelToast!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378247625 630683 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247648 392013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friend < 1378247650 370161 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :friend? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247650 868805 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378247651 14318 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378247653 492777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? friends < 1378247655 395581 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friends make graphs together / La la la la < 1378247660 248589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/friend{s,} < 1378247664 14810 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247686 442404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? math < 1378247688 44990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :math? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247688 350906 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1378247688 512985 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1378247689 468148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maths < 1378247691 478096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin < 1378247696 159668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1378247703 205269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm this one might be bad to move. < 1378247725 571467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1378247727 723201 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1378247727 868837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoids < 1378247729 855618 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are the easy version of categories. < 1378247758 2296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? gonad; ? gonads < 1378247760 336241 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonad? ¯\(°_o)/¯ \ gonads are the best punctional fondlegramming squishcture. < 1378247760 608368 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378247760 835010 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1378247770 304573 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1378247771 956872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute."? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247772 243388 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                             | < 1378247772 388769 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                                           o/`¯º < 1378247775 617246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/gonad{s,} < 1378247779 361306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247825 187755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls *s < 1378247827 47288 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess \ devious \ doodads \ for further details \ inverness \ lens \ logs \ lystrosaurus \ maths \ monoids \ qdbrules \ ssstosis \ the us \ this \ torus \ united states \ welcome.es \ west midlands \ zomgmodules < 1378247847 84989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? doodad; ? doodads < 1378247847 778401 :jaril!~user@250.ip-46-105-18.eu QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1 < 1378247849 142667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doodads are just duoids in the category of endofunctors. \ Doodads are just duoids in the category of endofunctors. < 1378247860 499400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/doodads < 1378247863 914591 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378247882 526408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deduping! < 1378247899 366129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the rest are not sensible to move. < 1378247923 90726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maths; ? math < 1378247924 687128 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths; ? math? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378247924 915408 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1378247925 84413 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1378247935 403885 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? maths < 1378247937 618606 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :maths stands for Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin < 1378247943 261033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378247945 183387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1378248030 355347 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?  < 1378248032 192098 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08ev14eryone: Welcome to the international 12hub for esoteric14 pro03grammin11g 05l08anguage design and depl02oy06ment! F12or mor11e info14rmat12ion, 05check out 09our wiki: h03ttp04://eso12langs.org/07w02iki/Mai09n_Pag06e.14 (For the other k08ind of esoterica, tr05y #e07soteric 05on irc06.dal.net.) < 1378248045 211762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378248045 385511 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is full of wonders < 1378248069 514775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ?? < 1378248071 221851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/? < 1378248071 554464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯\\\?\\\ \\\¯\\\\\\\(\\\°\\\_\\\o\\\)\\\/\\\¯ < 1378248072 472154 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\ < 1378248116 804819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tail bin/? < 1378248118 158873 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ then cat /dev/urandom; \ elif [ -e "$topic" ]; \ then cat "$topic" | rnooodl; \ elif [ -e "$topic1" ]; \ then cat "$topic1" | rnooodl; \ else echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; \ fi < 1378248131 724440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing to explain that everyone < 1378248137 159105 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does caliphornia have a caliph? < 1378248145 906788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord `? < 1378248147 610526 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 63 < 1378248157 100581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord `? < 1378248158 870792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 63 < 1378248163 482493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1378248165 226320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378248165 706116 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1378248165 875099 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     º¯`\o < 1378248167 224130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord `? < 1378248168 613645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 63 32 < 1378248213 106381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord  < 1378248214 720282 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1378248237 154288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh putty doesn't show end of line space < 1378248288 558015 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat doesn't seem to either, but I can still enter it even though it disappears as soon as I send < 1378248337 849425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1378248418 758234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe they'll die instead < 1378248425 123118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no, it does normal trailing spaces ... only interesting spaces get lost? < 1378248426 622197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but entering the gate seems p. likely < 1378248484 340822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ < 1378248486 245954 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378248495 626654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :baffling < 1378248524 91319 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? _͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚%CD͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞ < 1378248525 941929 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚%CD͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛͞? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378248553 929649 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1378248636 449987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can if you want it to < 1378248682 270163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i suppose none of them has a standing prophecy that they _will_ survive. (and of course belkar has one that he won't. as did durkon _but_...) < 1378248734 323488 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378248814 433021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note myndzi didn't even _try_ to work with those. < 1378248826 644721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? are you alive myndzi < 1378248828 708104 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you alive myndzi ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378248829 193429 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                            | < 1378248829 365594 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                          o/`¯º < 1378248832 363739 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, i'm told elan will have a happy ending < 1378248838 496394 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urrrrrrrrrh there's ink dripping all over my screen < 1378248839 169301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or did he already get that? < 1378248859 728418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's a question, but elan is not among those attacked. < 1378248882 841384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, those them < 1378248891 561788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378248898 92268 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? the them < 1378248899 814541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Information on the THEM has been removed for national security reasons. < 1378248911 124194 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to spoil it, oerjan < 1378248945 724547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? england < 1378248947 544799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :England is [EXPUNGED]. < 1378248968 671584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone expunge england or just the information about england? < 1378248997 317463 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :barckets, < 1378249001 79749 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, use < 1378249009 474845 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mention distinction HELLO ENTER KEY WHAT HAVE I DONE WRONG < 1378249047 754227 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ⌨ < 1378249049 896498 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are probably using one right now! < 1378249066 471885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: probably placed it too close to - ? < 1378249097 783974 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sleep < 1378249099 945687 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378249100 238616 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378249100 397382 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1378249142 760034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Sleep is for the weak. < 1378249147 564818 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378249263 653067 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought sleep was for the week < 1378249324 663048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so. < 1378249526 548855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome, in rust you can do '\n'*'\n' and the result is 'd' < 1378249544 57239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that awesome < 1378249553 501634 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says "awesome" right there man < 1378249571 919202 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is it just multiplying the codepoints < 1378249578 700120 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do that in c? < 1378249598 508516 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1378249600 981678 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/KecUhf9d < 1378249613 672098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cpressey < 1378249615 555821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey invented the esolang, the pipe cleaner and the electrical mousse. < 1378249632 984569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it's gone < 1378249678 567165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shachaf < 1378249680 509150 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf sprø som selleri and cosplays Nepeta Leijon on weekends. < 1378249696 423165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Nepeta Leijon < 1378249697 960024 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nepeta Leijon? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378249698 237401 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1378249698 415816 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1378249784 817985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Nepeta Leijon is the maintainer of the official Alternian shipping wall. < 1378249789 571109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378249795 39810 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Nepeta Leijon < 1378249796 978624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nepeta Leijon? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378249797 219075 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1378249797 390723 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  o/`¯º < 1378249842 620516 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Nepeta < 1378249844 284305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nepeta Leijon is the maintainer of the official Alternian shipping wall. < 1378249972 658012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: does nepeta endoship < 1378249990 321411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's not the right word < 1378249997 887724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/nepeta{,' leijon'} < 1378249998 33596 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378250001 662360 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378250023 916031 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378250042 810470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question was whether she ships herself < 1378250134 180886 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130316230515/mspaintadventures/images/2/2c/EquiusSeekTheHighblood-NepetaShippingWall.gif see the top left < 1378250197 404413 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that nepeta < 1378250213 779628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe endoshipping would be shipping someone with themselves < 1378250243 213745 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, she does that too, in that very same gif, with karkat (around the club symbol) < 1378250250 601321 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for someone who hates homestuck you are leading yourself down a line of enquiry which will tell you far more about it than you ever wanted to know < 1378250263 645462 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :top left is nepeta x karkat (her crush) < 1378250272 327407 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378250276 200497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run echo An ambitiöus new Esolanger who, although underage, is eager to learn. > wisdom/Solain < 1378250294 409859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*olain < 1378250296 396372 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/solain < 1378250299 434644 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nepeta leijon is an accomplished master of category theory, it just never comes up in the comic due to time constraints < 1378250301 407972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fixed < 1378250304 975377 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an innuendomorphism < 1378250320 25543 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat egory < 1378250340 470279 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gory cat theory, yes < 1378250375 864883 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that does come up in the comic < 1378250380 930120 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle. < 1378250495 577092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; /bin/ls -1 | grep '[A-Z]' < 1378250497 123471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah \ ais523 \ america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bc \ bicategory \ bienvenue \ bigchar� \ bike \ bird \ boily \ bonvenon \ bookwatching \ botlop \ braid theory \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ c \ cakeprophet \ california \ caps lock \ cat \ category \ category-helpdesk \ category theory \ cello \ certainly \ certai < 1378250501 959004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fff < 1378250514 30333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which grep < 1378250515 374601 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/grep < 1378250532 174927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when is grep case insensitive by default :( < 1378250582 450605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which grep < 1378250583 954116 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/grep < 1378250597 381903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep '[a-z]' < 1378250599 65256 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST < 1378250604 8176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep -i '[a-z]' < 1378250605 861866 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST < 1378250698 804026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and secondly, how do you turn it off. < 1378250720 53908 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom < 1378250721 417689 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378250724 881171 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pwd < 1378250726 269129 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1378250732 203210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cd wisdom < 1378250733 324848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cd: not found < 1378250735 602364 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which grep < 1378250735 889850 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378250736 901980 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/grep < 1378250744 204260 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which which < 1378250745 304775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/which < 1378250758 272949 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/boily wisdom/cat < 1378250759 627025 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. \ Cats are cool, but should be illegal. < 1378250759 821808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some environment variable or shell alias which affects it? < 1378250764 785649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run alias grep < 1378250766 370688 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: alias: grep: not found < 1378250768 170948 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378250774 169272 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378250775 805790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat: No such file or directory < 1378250780 973685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat: cat: < 1378250782 300486 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cat:: command not found < 1378250784 881613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printenv | grep -i grep < 1378250786 550445 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378250787 388792 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for grep in grep fgrep egrep; do echo $grep; echo TEST | $grep '[a-z]'; done < 1378250788 487205 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat: cat < 1378250789 223549 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep \ TEST \ fgrep \ egrep \ TEST < 1378250789 695109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat:: No such file or directory \ cat: cat: No such file or directory < 1378250796 197473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap < 1378250831 213611 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:f102:9ed:a2e3:7f6e JOIN :#esoteric < 1378250904 631546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`printenv < 1378250905 907449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ SHLVL=0 \ HOME=/tmp < 1378250920 544655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printenv | tail < 1378250921 868870 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERM=linux \ http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128 \ HACKENV=/hackenv \ PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin \ PWD=/hackenv \ LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ HOME=/tmp \ SHLVL=1 \ _=/usr/bin/printenv < 1378250980 737368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | LANG= grep '[a-z]' < 1378250982 302121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378250990 973434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | LANG=C grep '[a-z]' < 1378250992 372377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378251005 399296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :localization is evil :( < 1378251023 863157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always use "LANG=C" myself when working on UNIX systems < 1378251180 920001 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378251214 767924 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep '[[:lower:]]' < 1378251216 553872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378251218 413835 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I checked out a book from the university library about "Fril" which is like prolog with fuzzy sets < 1378251283 280089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: people asked Gregor to set a different one. < 1378251334 861883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? I think always "LANG=C" should be used. < 1378251403 220815 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :export LANG=perl < 1378251403 503462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it broke unicode stuff, or something. < 1378251440 405510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 grep '[a-z]' < 1378251441 986891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST < 1378251448 624022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you require Unicode, can "C.UTF-8" work? < 1378251449 597041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's just as broken. < 1378251474 932176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still thing "LANG=C" is better, without the Unicode specification) < 1378251486 179782 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ZZZ | grep '[a-z]' < 1378251487 696336 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378251636 228234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ZZZ < 1378251637 726173 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :90 90 90 < 1378251646 828000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord [a-z] < 1378251648 403341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :91 97 45 122 93 < 1378251680 567080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1378251786 367485 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print [chr(i) for i in range(255)]' | tr -cd '[a-z]' < 1378251788 434460 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[xxxxxxxxxtnxbxcrxexfxxxxxxxxxxxaxbxcxdxexf[]abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzxfxxxxxxxxxxxaxbxcxdxexfxxxxxxxxxxxaxbxcxdxexfxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaaxabxacxadxaexafxbxbxbxbxbxbxbxbxbxbxbaxbbxbcxbdxbexbfxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcaxcbxccxcdxcexcfxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdaxdbxdcxddxdexdfxexexexexexexexexexexeaxebxecxedxeexefxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfaxfbxfcxfdxfe] < 1378251875 739727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have doubts that's what you wanted < 1378251902 114428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i am guessing it has to do with it affecting collating order, not actual case insensitivity < 1378251927 62525 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print "".join(chr(i) for i in range(255))' | tr -cd 'a-z' < 1378251928 702502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz < 1378251969 764390 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print "".join(chr(i) for i in range(255))' | grep -o '[a-z]' < 1378251971 432003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file (standard input) matches < 1378251977 955414 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print "".join(chr(i) for i in range(255))' | grep -o '[a-z]' -a < 1378251979 952663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252011 721366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wtf is going on. < 1378252119 553602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(255): print chr(i)' | grep '[a-z]' < 1378252121 153363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file (standard input) matches < 1378252130 999310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378252156 800957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(32, 127): print chr(i)' | grep '[a-z]' < 1378252158 300597 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A \ B \ C \ D \ E \ F \ G \ H \ I \ J \ K \ L \ M \ N \ O \ P \ Q \ R \ S \ T \ U \ V \ W \ X \ Y \ a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252166 541997 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(32, 127): print chr(i)' | grep '[a-z]' -a < 1378252168 464306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A \ B \ C \ D \ E \ F \ G \ H \ I \ J \ K \ L \ M \ N \ O \ P \ Q \ R \ S \ T \ U \ V \ W \ X \ Y \ a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252191 291547 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(255): print chr(i)' | grep '[a-z]' -a < 1378252193 48370 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A \ B \ C \ D \ E \ F \ G \ H \ I \ J \ K \ L \ M \ N \ O \ P \ Q \ R \ S \ T \ U \ V \ W \ X \ Y \ a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252210 677109 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(255): print chr(i)' | grep -o '[a-z]' -a < 1378252212 553272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252232 909575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run python -c 'for i in range(32, 127): print chr(i)' | sort < 1378252241 496410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(32, 127): print chr(i)' | sort < 1378252243 188590 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^ \ ~ \ < \ = \ > \ | \ \ _ \ - \ , \ ; \ : \ ! \ ? \ / \ . \ ' \ " \ ( \ ) \ [ \ ] \ { \ } \ @ \ $ \ * \ \ \ & \ # \ % \ + \ 0 \ 1 \ 2 \ 3 \ 4 \ 5 \ 6 \ 7 \ 8 \ 9 \ a \ A \ b \ B \ c \ C \ d \ D \ e \ E \ f \ F \ g \ G \ h \ H \ i \ I \ j \ J \ k \ K \ l \ L \ m \ M \ n \ N \ o \ O \ p \ P \ q \ Q \ r \ R \ s \ S \ t \ T \ u \ U \ v \ V \ < 1378252254 924280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1378252306 80967 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378252518 33251 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'for i in range(32,127): print chr(i)' | grep -o '[a-z]' < 1378252519 643093 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a \ b \ c \ d \ e \ f \ g \ h \ i \ j \ k \ l \ m \ n \ o \ p \ q \ r \ s \ t \ u \ v \ w \ x \ y \ z < 1378252758 887935 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`i hate python < 1378252760 194960 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: i: not found < 1378252762 301511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen the term "library" used in reference to pokemon card game just once, and in that case it is capitalized too for some reason. < 1378253382 79139 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1378253543 452281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls -1 | grep '[:upper:]' < 1378253545 257904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1378253549 153199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378253556 386329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; /bin/ls -1 | grep '[:upper:]' < 1378253558 17094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bicategory \ bienvenue \ bigchar� \ bike \ bird \ bonvenon \ botlop \ braid theory \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ cakeprophet \ california \ caps lock \ category \ category-helpdesk \ category theory \ cello \ certainly \ certainty \ chess \ claustrophobia \ cocoonspirator \ coffe < 1378253569 873344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1378253587 691000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is weird, and there is broken. this is broken. < 1378253685 110153 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am annoyed that oerjan has decided to annoy people < 1378253687 484147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; /bin/ls -1 | LANG= grep '[:upper:]' < 1378253689 58805 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :america \ atriq \ atrix \ augur \ banach-tarski \ bicategory \ bienvenue \ bigchar� \ bike \ bird \ bonvenon \ botlop \ braid theory \ brain \ brainf**k \ brainfuck \ brick \ burma \ cakeprophet \ california \ caps lock \ category \ category-helpdesk \ category theory \ cello \ certainly \ certainty \ chess \ claustrophobia \ cocoonspirator \ coffe < 1378253695 845001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1378253697 712147 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^onrv < 1378253717 510015 :^onrv!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1378253722 197158 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /bin | grep '[[:upper:]]' < 1378253723 623411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i have no idea why this prints those lines < 1378253723 768956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378253763 765936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; /bin/ls -1 | LANG=C grep '[A-Z]' < 1378253765 410147 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo's relevant info \ wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1378253933 360462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv wisdom/{R,r}"oujo's relevant info" < 1378253936 879314 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378253942 781946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; /bin/ls -1 | LANG=C grep '[A-Z]' < 1378253944 499368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisisis "This isn't an actual wisdom, just a tribute." < 1378253978 238008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it's not my fault that grep with a locale completely ignores the intended meaning of [:upper:] < 1378254032 877869 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep '[[:upper:]]' < 1378254034 357320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST < 1378254038 367325 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep '[[:lower:]]' < 1378254039 748903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378254048 909789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't hear you < 1378254057 906172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn < 1378254101 804312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats himself -----###
< 1378254549 386004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read somewhere of "Rochester poker", where you make a poker hand like you draft cards in Magic: the Gathering. < 1378254559 890751 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? banach-tarski < 1378254561 509554 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1378254566 777601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378254570 629438 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what I expected < 1378254587 440876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I have seen that joke before, in some book < 1378254602 333181 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378254603 850496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378254604 102032 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1378254604 290578 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             o/`¯º < 1378254644 452680 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1378254646 220446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1378254647 466068 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ Your dongers. Raise them. ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ > wisdom/ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378254650 310010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378254677 319367 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm impressed at the amount of characters filenames can take < 1378254845 784632 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1378255056 523564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn donger < 1378255057 766219 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "donger". < 1378255069 363193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck donger < 1378255099 186907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in "native" UNIX filesystems you can have any byte except 0x00 or 0x2F ('/') and it doesn't much care what encoding they conform to, either < 1378255105 256866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm cephalopod shortage < 1378255191 429816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, but presumably there are UTF-8 characters encoded with a 0x2f? < 1378255206 312529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1378255209 249999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x2f is only used to encode the character 0x2f < 1378255220 473428 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the codepoint < 1378255248 222588 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 follows the Principle of Extended ASCII, so it means all ASCII codes always correspond to themself. < 1378255275 82563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :endocorrespondence < 1378255311 527105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is the genius of the prophet ken thompson < 1378255365 121295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programs using UTF-8 fail to follow the Principle of Extended ASCII, however. < 1378255540 763470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, duh < 1378257883 381655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote my contract states right here that I have to tell you the best version of python is called haskell 2010 < 1378257887 573467 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1100) my contract states right here that I have to tell you the best version of python is called haskell 2010 < 1378257922 333570 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't confuse Python with Haskell. < 1378257944 600937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's not confusion it's a joke < 1378257982 859034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is a joke, you may not be confusing things, but you still shouldn't confuse it (regardless of whether or not you do). < 1378258538 741939 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378258564 471769 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378258995 585009 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:f102:9ed:a2e3:7f6e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist if you haven't seen the one from a few hours ago < 1378258997 263837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist if you haven't seen the one from a few hours ago: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378259171 413500 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378259174 56515 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1378259184 955051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1378259222 655023 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so hard to come up with an architecture that's simple and efficient < 1378259231 763197 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not just end up with another MIPS clone < 1378259247 355090 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why they pay people big bux for doing so, i guess! < 1378259248 434903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: It does seems so. < 1378259259 239378 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ended up with < 1378259262 510477 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov add sub cmp ucp mul < 1378259262 656015 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and or xor lsr lsl asr < 1378259262 801346 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ld ldh ldb lds ldc st sth stb < 1378259262 801507 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jz jnz jp jl jr sys < 1378259274 295750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, now describe it < 1378259294 922605 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all instructions are opcode rd, rx, ry/#immediate < 1378259299 434414 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except jumps < 1378259306 589337 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where rd = destination register < 1378259312 232815 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rx = source register 1 < 1378259333 282797 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ry/#immediate = source 2 is either a register, or an immediate < 1378259337 786075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378259352 615135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the registers, then? What are the other features? < 1378259379 437117 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :registers are... r0..r15 or r0..r31, haven't decided on 16 vs 32 yet < 1378259401 863313 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also describe exact function of instructions. < 1378259429 986692 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov add sub mul and or xor lsr lsl asr are exactly what you'd expect < 1378259439 204602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that is expected. < 1378259467 118116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are others, though? < 1378259504 365961 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmp does a signed comparison between two registers and writes 0 if rx is smaller than ry, and... -1 if it's larger (or it could be 1, I'm not sure which is better, MIPS goes for 1) < 1378259524 125069 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ucp is the same thing but with unsigned comparison < 1378259529 123597 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378259575 868480 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ld is 32 bit load, source #2 is shifted 2 bits left and added to source #1 and then the aligned data at that address is loaded < 1378259607 66903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both using -1 and using +1 can be useful for different reasons (for C compiling, you should use +1; for BASIC, you should use -1; Forth tends to use -1 too) < 1378259618 162910 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ldh lds are 16bit, unsigned and signed, source #2 is shifted 1 bit < 1378259645 581127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378259646 398788 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ldb ldc are 8bit, unsigned and signed, source #2 isn't shifted < 1378259676 608848 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :st sth stb are stores (32bit, 16bit, 8bit respectively, source #2 is shifted the right amount of bits) < 1378259692 980782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it source #2 which is signed? < 1378259705 64608 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's the data loaded from memory < 1378259716 990528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1378259722 607083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is sign extended. < 1378259728 517579 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course < 1378259771 691571 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jz checks if a register is 0, and jumps to an immediate offset if yes (signed offset relative to the instruction) < 1378259785 87105 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jnz is same but for register != 0 < 1378259809 395197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378259814 567068 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jp is same but always jumps (and might have a larger immediate but is still relative to PC) < 1378259861 588468 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jl is the same but it writes the value of the PC to a register (probably r14 or r30, ARM uses r13) < 1378259880 276682 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jr jumps to the memory address in a register < 1378259898 84850 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so returning from a function is effectively jr r14 < 1378259918 377448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the PC is also one of the registers, do you need jr instruction? < 1378259931 509472 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC is not a named register < 1378259946 605094 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not orthogonal enough < 1378259961 468214 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM had that (PC = r15) and regretted it < 1378259990 978106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do suppose having the number for PC register can be messing up caching < 1378260018 276849 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :irl on a typical pipeline the PC will be at least a couple cycles off < 1378260047 675569 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once the design becomes superscalar with branch prediction the relationship becomes even crazier < 1378260052 702375 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worth it < 1378260053 334502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think explicit pipelining and caching should be better though < 1378260066 934202 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I didn't peg you for a fan of Itanic. < 1378260097 121681 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :explicit pipelining sounds like a bad plan to me but I'm not familiar with the concept < 1378260167 603141 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you explicit pipeline a cpu anyways < 1378260170 304316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think not implementing it at all would be better than having it automatic < 1378260312 484370 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing with the PC is that it lives in a completely different part of the pipeline < 1378260350 603926 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also it needs its own read/write ports < 1378260357 508403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that might be done is having a microcode memory partially ROM and partially RAM, and then your program is running in there (there can be more than one microcode core, for parallel execution of some instructions), which can use the data RAM in the microcode for caching; you can then which which microcode memory spaces are address and data. < 1378260370 107215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean which are program and data) < 1378260404 593500 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you gain nothing from conflating the PC with the other registers < 1378260425 381206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it is not quite harvard, because you can swap the program with the data < 1378260435 465449 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378260458 458741 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd definitively keep instruction cache and microcode separate < 1378260472 382504 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and data cache too < 1378260480 367111 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Except when you're dealing in emulation. Then the PC is best considered another register. < 1378260496 792085 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: true < 1378260498 116433 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, nobody designs ISAs around emulators. :) < 1378260504 584067 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1378260512 647846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Except for Z-machine < 1378260513 712958 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for emulators I'd still keep the PC separate < 1378260527 810670 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually for emulators I'd go for total hardvard architecture < 1378260532 90552 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I mean "CPU ISAs" obviously. < 1378260541 709912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes < 1378260556 654811 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Obviously VMs are designed all the time. :) < 1378260559 638582 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably even separate the return address stack from everything else < 1378260575 760886 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Hmm. True, this would make some aspects a lot simpler. < 1378260612 340825 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, any sort of optimization of the VM beyond naive intepretation. < 1378260619 113721 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'd remove the "register jump" and replace it with "indirect jump with a look up table" or something like that < 1378260628 534060 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that all the jumps can be easily retargetted < 1378260650 231852 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make sure you can relatively easy JIT recompile your code < 1378260654 637923 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it runs fast < 1378260657 925379 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1378260678 531377 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get fairly impressive performance from an interpreter if you're quite careful in its design. < 1378260709 536095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think Z-machine is well designed (that is, the one Infocom designed) < 1378260710 830239 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you get 7 registers" "why" "cause that's how many fits in the x86 recompiled code" < 1378260752 223369 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The secret is to have an indirect jump at the end of each instruction's code so the branch predictor doesn't do literally 100% misprediction. < 1378260768 588878 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still mispredicts a lot, obviously, but hey. < 1378260788 414391 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it might be possible to shuffle the stack pointer around in some less important register and get 8 registers < 1378260808 164228 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq : oh that's a nice idea actually < 1378260821 166555 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it. It helps quite a bit. < 1378260826 37526 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda wondering how to get msvc to compile that kind of code < 1378260839 913787 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the answer there is "don't". < 1378260853 657170 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, alternately, have a switch statement in a macro. :) < 1378260893 314653 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I have to check if MSVC compiles it to multiple return statements or a single one < 1378260944 664966 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, re: x86 registers. Though inconvenient you could honestly use the floating point register stack for a few more registers. < 1378260975 259131 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure that would be any faster than just using memory for the overflow registers < 1378260994 252742 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep in mind that you can actually do integer arithmetic with those registers. < 1378261018 556803 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure there's any opcodes for transferring data to/from normal registrers to FPU ones < 1378261032 107034 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though there are some for MMX registers and SSE ones I think < 1378261080 178737 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow < 1378261110 355127 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a CPU with dynamic microcode, you really want the microcode to be in a separate bank than instruction and data cache < 1378261140 51451 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you have to share your access ports between the microcode and data cache < 1378261158 89646 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which divides your throughput and increases the width of your multiplexers < 1378261162 949784 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's like double bad < 1378261262 773050 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure it's possible to design a fast cpu with dynamic microcode either < 1378261278 497672 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem there's an instruction for transferring to/from normal registers, no. < 1378261296 124650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Well, it isn't fast if the program isn't written in microcodes. < 1378261301 164038 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to memory. < 1378261313 586349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; I still want to simplify it by having the microcode being the only cache (there can still be a separate program and data cache, and you can switch which one is program and which one is data) < 1378261396 98234 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably simplest to just go via MMX. < 1378261397 403671 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not simplifying it < 1378261406 989686 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make it the same as some other thing < 1378261429 744381 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you make them separate, then you can simply make everything read 1 data on every cycle < 1378261433 174523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program cache I mean is only the microcode program cache though < 1378261435 623535 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 instruction per cycle < 1378261446 301898 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 memory read per cycle < 1378261455 209189 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 microcode access per cycle < 1378261475 169482 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you conflate, say, the data cache and microcode cache < 1378261493 895536 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you have to decide on each cycle who gets to read from it < 1378261511 36237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't what I am doing, as I am specifying < 1378261605 933695 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like the instruction cache contains microcode instead of instructions? < 1378261615 270503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1378261773 811180 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually not a bad idea < 1378261779 90314 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pentium 4 did that < 1378261782 154453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The microcode ROM would load the rest of the microcode program from the external ROM and then switch to the other bank. < 1378261824 813098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A microcode program would then be unable to modify itself directly; you would have to load a program into the other bank which modifies this one, instead. < 1378261861 394212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is also the only way for the microcode program to read itself) < 1378261933 149594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if any computer does this, but I like it < 1378261957 123363 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to look up on how the pentium 4 did its trace cache < 1378262073 416776 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how the crusoe did its crazy stuff < 1378262286 743129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What similarities and differences is there from what I wrote about? < 1378262329 912186 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crusoe is some kind of VLIW with 128bit opcodes < 1378262342 337168 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the first thing it does is load up some x86 emulator < 1378262374 954496 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it dynamically translates x86 code into its VLIW instruction set as it goes along < 1378262385 653609 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never get access to the VLIW core < 1378262418 572747 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sooooo ||ed < 1378262455 541486 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reserves something like 512k for the VLIW operation < 1378262476 354075 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has all sorts of insane stuff to keep the emulation running smooth < 1378262495 611863 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like explicit memory anti-aliasing instructions < 1378262546 616656 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pentium 4 is a lot more sane < 1378262837 906027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do any have the only cache being microcode cache, there are two of them and you can switch between which is program and which is data? < 1378262858 711903 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378262940 330213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then make such thing < 1378262942 993313 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being able to switch would add extra multiplexers in the cpu < 1378262945 743524 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make it slower < 1378262967 962725 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, switching would probably require a pipeline flush < 1378263009 867641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I can understand those things < 1378263075 470740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I was thinking of not even having a pipeline, and furthermore the user program is written in microcodes therefore it isn't as slow < 1378263098 225558 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:f102:9ed:a2e3:7f6e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378263099 922363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378263130 61271 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any pipeline it does have is explicitly programmed using multi cores; there would be no implicit pipelining < 1378263265 628107 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the general problem with explicit pipelining is that it's very hard to process a clean interrupt on that < 1378263302 452761 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik you have to freeze everything and then empty all the multiple cycle versions of everything < 1378263358 101193 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: gamzee < 1378263454 220728 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS etc had these problems < 1378263461 749549 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like on branch delay slots < 1378263515 333351 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branch delay slots. Sigh. < 1378263519 839889 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a wonky idea. < 1378263521 121876 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think the first few MIPS had some bugs on when interrupts happened on the same cycle as branches < 1378263560 212132 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq : it's sorta worth it when you're at 1 instruction per cycle and you don't have a branch target buffer < 1378263576 278015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ignore that stuff and you instead implement it in the user program. < 1378263582 226809 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then when you become superscalar with a branch predictor you regret it < 1378263617 330965 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS is mostly an embedded CPU nowadays so it might have been good for them overall < 1378263679 401718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't add superscalar, branch prediction, and all that stuff; implement static prediction in the parts of the user program which are written in microcodes. < 1378263727 117513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also implement the other things using that, and using multi core microcodes (they do not all have to be equivalent cores) < 1378263738 181988 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378263763 439839 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a design like that you're probably better of handling interrupts on a separate CPU < 1378263789 487774 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when an interrupt happens, completely freeze the larger configurable core < 1378263815 569122 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a smaller specialized core correctly save/restore the state and handle interrupts < 1378263830 324817 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378263833 629481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you could do that < 1378263906 25835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might work < 1378263960 437571 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of code do you want to run? < 1378263995 329831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you be more specific? < 1378264051 582252 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to emulate existing cpus or do fast number crunching or run straight C++ code with memory ops and jumps all over the place? < 1378264077 534424 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Run a code which is programmed specificly for this CPU < 1378264101 679122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programmed using microcodes that do what is helpful < 1378264115 179805 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378264124 920052 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so assembly code? < 1378264129 224859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1378264137 349058 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing what sort of processing? < 1378264150 149119 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we, like, used different CPUs for different kinds of programs,,, and, like, made it all super fast, man...................... < 1378264153 493790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know entirely, but there are a few different kinds I was thinking of < 1378264167 206044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You shouldn't have too many though < 1378264171 242523 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, if we could manage gigahertz FPGAs... :) < 1378264227 577335 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want a computer made of acids :( < 1378264235 632723 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could 8 way superscalar execute MIPS code I'd be pretty impressed :o < 1378264235 936996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One think I think of involves emulating 6502 or the old x86, other thing that could be done is Z-machine, you could also do mathematical things, possibly physics, graphics, audio, there are many things to do. Some kinds of things do not have to be as fast as other things, though. < 1378264284 830903 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502 is like impossible to optimize < 1378264294 292757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see, therefore, that some things don't have to be so fast as other things, just because of the kind of programs < 1378264326 873298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Yes I know that, but it wouldn't have to be as fast as other things anyways < 1378264337 207264 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a neuromorphic machine, partly because "neurmorphic" sounds too cool to be real < 1378264346 606784 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that's why I'm asking what's your heavyest usage element < 1378264368 954304 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parts that can be slow aren't really important and can be implemented any way < 1378264390 619837 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you start with a boring old MIPS it does ok at pretty much all of those things < 1378264403 938947 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok with an FPU for code that uses that) < 1378264469 257418 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or maybe with some MAC/SIMD opcodes for sound processing instead) < 1378264475 960245 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378264484 323745 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to know what's the limiting factor < 1378264503 338231 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going to make a difference < 1378264539 630813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that you can simplify it and not implement a lot of things in hardware; implement most of in user microcodes, and then the microcodes can be designed so that things that are really complicated will run fast. < 1378264583 799427 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really simplify a MIPS < 1378264661 199341 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single issue MIPS is like a 2 port 32 register file wired more or less straight into a 32 bit ALU wired more or less straight into the data cache < 1378264679 930281 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or RAM) < 1378264716 232948 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :With opcodes as close as possible to microcode < 1378264716 605018 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I suspect you could simplify it slightly. But you'd be shuffling a few relatively inessential features. < 1378264757 200945 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take out the ADD instruction that does interrupts on overflows yeah < 1378264773 291821 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably the add carry instruction too (if I remember correctly) < 1378264774 78627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not worried too much about speed, and consider simplicity of the implementation to be more important < 1378264781 563392 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS definitely lacks gratuitous insanity, which already makes it, like, the simplest common ISA. < 1378264813 177268 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take out the multiplier < 1378264818 499521 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then multiplies are a lot slower < 1378264834 974243 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take out the multiple memory access sizes < 1378264855 861616 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then if you have something that does 8 or 16 bit accesses it becomes a lot slower < 1378264886 96488 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take out the memory ops that do address calculation < 1378264934 96181 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :notmad < 1378264939 451315 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you're using more registers and more instruction cache and also memory accesses become 2 cycles for real essentially < 1378264960 924250 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a bad idea < 1378265033 499456 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I guess it would simplify implementation) < 1378265179 945139 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378265255 742290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is why I suggested doing things such as programming the user program in microcodes < 1378265270 36866 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably take out most immediates in instructions which would make it appreciably slower and use up registers but it would simplify the instruction set < 1378265304 371153 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using microcodes would definitely make it easier to implement < 1378265311 671917 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe not slower < 1378265317 347859 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but harder to program also < 1378265329 704238 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is why I suggest it; it make it easier to implement and not slower. < 1378265331 18420 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would have larger programs < 1378265404 690992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could still have the user program in the microcode to implement some instruction set for the rest of the program if it would help to do so for that particular program, but you don't have to, in case it won't help with that program < 1378265434 337490 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds sorta like the itanium < 1378265440 374689 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was VLIW-ish < 1378265450 850912 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: I'd be in favor of taking out immediates if you just wanted a "very simple" ISA. < 1378265454 883555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, VLIW is also part of the design I am thinking of to do < 1378265464 32375 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually worked kinda well for floating point code < 1378265466 48976 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, I'll agree with your point (in essence) < 1378265481 936006 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was just worse than x86 for normal integer stuff < 1378265496 18807 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS is about as simple as you can get without having to hit major tradeoffs. < 1378265540 232140 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as "eh, it'll be notably slower at any computations, but who cares" < 1378265543 67096 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to larger instructions (= less instruction cache and instruction loading bandwidth), less crazy reordering and memory renaming etc < 1378265559 406205 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's kinda hard to take anything from MIPS < 1378265576 942766 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, every thing it has is useful < 1378265608 645523 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inversely it's not that easy to add stuff to MIPS < 1378265620 791031 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aside from separate stuff like a FPU and a SIMD unit < 1378265641 382677 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And goofy stuff that you wonder why any human being would desire it. < 1378265655 705600 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any kind of thing you can add has a performance downside somewhere < 1378265684 975636 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular running out of register read ports < 1378265686 355045 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could *totally* have a "x86 segmented address to physical address" instruction in there, it'd just be a bad idea. :) < 1378265703 164208 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even *if* all you want to do with it is emulate 16-bit x86. < 1378265713 82032 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1378265744 966038 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure even x86 cpus have an extra cycle latency penalty somewhere if you use that stuff too < 1378265775 148759 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I imagine. There's rather a lot of x86 features floating around that you can only use at serious cost. < 1378265791 347803 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1378265805 492603 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at just enough cost that it's just not worth it < 1378265830 152684 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on, x87 handles BCD. < 1378265847 331376 :notmad!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1378265858 548852 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you're not gaining anything over using the x86 as some kind of degenerate MIPS < 1378265899 15025 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still not sure if the instructions that do a calculation + a memory load aren't worth it though < 1378265910 178971 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like add eax, [ebx + 64] < 1378266011 388737 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a lot of downsides (it's 3 cycles+ latency and it has all the complexity of both a memory load and a calculation, plus it can require 3 register read ports) < 1378266030 740076 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's also kindof compact and useful and it's essentially 2 instructions in 1 < 1378266053 101213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The modern x86 set is really extremely too complicated < 1378266087 251519 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not designed, it's evolved. < 1378266108 746011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is evolved badly too. < 1378266109 852715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it could use some selection pressure. < 1378266123 571141 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, has there been any work on mechanical processor design < 1378266168 506682 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could use some pruning yes < 1378266180 88907 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly some way of getting rid of 16bit mode < 1378266201 449801 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, like evolving an instruction set where the fitness measurement is the average performance on some benchmark programs, or something. < 1378266215 213838 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and segment addressing if possible (which might be impossible due to being used in win32 programs) < 1378266218 575267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the thing you should get rid of is things like Super Mario game in one instruction and so on < 1378266226 781520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x86 doesn't have that, but it has things almost as complicated) < 1378266242 570446 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 has BCD < 1378266261 844148 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 has BCD in multiple different ways. < 1378266263 383446 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is retarded but at some point a bank wanted it so they got it < 1378266291 718901 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's BCD on the normal registers *and* BCD in the x87 FPU. < 1378266305 275910 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :always wanted floating point bcd < 1378266316 597108 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to imagine the perf on x87 FPU :3 < 1378266329 569346 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably something monstruous like an interrupt on each operation < 1378266330 599629 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's the funny part. It's not floating point. < 1378266341 538298 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x87 actually can be used as an integer unit as well. < 1378266356 230686 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1378266357 256872 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :16, 32, and 64 bit ints. < 1378266368 127914 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goodness i looked up the x87 pusher once and found out he's pretty much crazy. < 1378266370 891623 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that's... horrible < 1378266419 233408 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, not quite as bad as you'd expect at least. x87 float's mantissa is 64 bits. < 1378266454 254001 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of using the fpu for doing integer calculations < 1378266467 286304 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :8086. < 1378266494 491895 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously anybody got an answer re: my random speuclating < 1378266495 496504 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't the 8087 have monstruously long cycle times? < 1378266508 231595 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378266510 343990 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just made myself a nice Read instance for (a -> b) using the hint package. I’ve been needing that. < 1378266527 790666 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared with doing 64-bit int add from your 16-bit ALU? :) < 1378266529 845400 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :carado: How does that work? < 1378266543 572945 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's like 3 ADC's and an ADD < 1378266567 282131 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, the hint package allows one to interpret Haskell in Haskell using GHC as a library. < 1378266569 236633 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how long that is on the 8086 but on the 286 and 386 that's not particularly long < 1378266585 492039 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's goofy. < 1378266598 399426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :carado: O, OK, I suppose that can work. < 1378266608 854153 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 24 cycles if your operand is in memory < 1378266663 204429 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1378266676 10017 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were *non* 8087-compatible floating point coprocessors for the 8086 < 1378266694 429033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, x86 is really stupid. < 1378266695 343119 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378266716 547730 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is still better than 6502 < 1378266719 538126 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :This worked because the 8086 < 1378266729 630638 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's probably better than the z80 < 1378266736 69282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think x86 is the most stupid one. < 1378266739 323652 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way < 1378266749 51056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378266749 375210 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 6502 is impossible to pipeline < 1378266752 26053 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s knowledge of floats was just looking for the sequence 0b11011. < 1378266768 652338 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the x86 has lots of cruft but it's pipelinable < 1378266778 522765 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd probably regret the 6502 a lot more than the x86 if it'd survived. < 1378266825 504717 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :6502's 2013 version still has the page boundary bug,for compat :D < 1378266840 227924 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, aside from the cruft and the memory-operation opcodes and no 3 operand opcodes, the x86 is still essentially an 8 register RISC < 1378266848 786821 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can guarantee that the hacks on the 6502 would be at *least* as bad as x86. < 1378266871 147353 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you can turn the x86 into the pentium < 1378266884 466213 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is actually pretty nice in many ways < 1378266888 951632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, they would, but that is why, don't do it. < 1378266899 65842 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't make a pentium version of the 6502 < 1378266904 259106 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's essentially unpossible < 1378266928 639088 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't upgrade 6502 by evolution for thirty years. got it. < 1378266944 49546 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to try something insane like turning the zero page into a register file < 1378266955 727903 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesomely shitty. < 1378266964 341999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why, don't do such things; keep it as it is. < 1378266967 449866 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is bad because you don't want to break DOS. < 1378266977 859115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But DOS is not so bad. < 1378266979 289971 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also combining multiple opcodes together into single opcodes < 1378266981 827466 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1378267058 339937 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lda $60 + clcl + adc $64 + sta $68 => add r68h, r60h, r64h < 1378267149 6997 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not familiar enough with the z80 but it has similar faults < 1378267176 293483 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly that they ran out of instructions super fast so it has instruction prefixes all over the place < 1378267182 647647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378267182 974164 :fizzie!fis@2001:470:27:b5b::2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378267183 999077 :fizzie!fis@2001:470:27:b5b::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1378267184 144720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1378267302 983717 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it does have enough registers to compute stuff so it's probably a lot better than the 6502 still < 1378267303 166325 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, afaik it's somewhere between the 6502 and the x86 in terms of design < 1378267303 166480 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :68000 might have been better than x86 < 1378267340 418149 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's at least an OK instruction set since they pipelined it and superscalared it < 1378267346 778675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1378267357 853586 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure if the separation between address and data registers is a good or a bad thing < 1378267416 898315 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slightly more CISC than x86 but it doesn't have 8bit opcodes (everything is multiples of 16 bits) and it definitely has less instruction set insanity < 1378267446 372146 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it has opcodes that do like 4 thing and have debatable usefulness < 1378267561 535442 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again it doesn't have real mode < 1378267655 245267 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : anyhow < 1378267669 50954 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mips has more or less ideal latency for everything (1 cycle) < 1378267689 907215 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 cycle for memory access since that's really an add then a load) < 1378267721 81497 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that the only real way to beat it is to do 2 or 3 or more things on each cycle < 1378267776 403958 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then again you could just superscalarize the mips and make it 2-instructions per cycle < 1378267791 203188 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you're once again not winning anything over the mips < 1378268057 856809 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially to win anything over the mips you need to be doing something like DSP < 1378268067 869615 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with hand coded assembly < 1378268088 501613 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not too many load/stores < 1378268131 333407 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if there are too many load/stores then the program becomes bottlenecked by memory bandwidth or something like that and then you're not faster than a MIPS) < 1378268143 630397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play Pokemon card? < 1378268183 692093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone that can play Pokemon card, please review some thing I wrote relating to it < 1378268884 153974 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378268968 313306 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378269376 973132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know about "Worse-Is-Better" design? < 1378269525 513826 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378269720 913821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also called New Jersey style. < 1378269762 584807 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, did the guy who wrote worse is better i forget his name like christopher alexander < 1378269798 765823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says Richard P. Gabriel < 1378269809 59862 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah him. < 1378269844 26935 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting guy. did some work on parallel code in lisp. trying to get straight how fucked he was wrt design though < 1378269850 854444 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever, like, seen christopher alexander's writing < 1378269867 482617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1378270008 827545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think too many programs in modern Linux systems are not implemented as a filter, even though they ought to be. The program "dvilj4" gives a help file when you invoke it with no arguments, although I think it ought to act like a filter < 1378270056 599880 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :higgledy piggledy, / richard p. gabriel / said worse is better / (so better is worse); // turns out the worst, though -- / worse even than better -- is / how i decided to / finish this verse < 1378270098 359248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ☝ more double dactyl < 1378270111 696283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1378270134 628727 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, beaut. < 1378270137 688372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, that "(so" should be moved to the left of the /. < 1378270152 497998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you supposed to have one line that's a single word? maybe that's why it's worse < 1378270158 379532 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1378270161 714606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that. :-( < 1378270221 354623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo someone fix it < 1378270366 831739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad: Do you have any idea relating to hardware programming languages? < 1378270754 283000 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378271260 504449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a few things of some of my ideas. < 1378271293 578975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I have is that numbers are specified in binary format by default (you need a prefix for decimal and hex). < 1378271553 951784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another is how module calls work; in Verilog you have module calls with names and I/O, but in HWPL (the name for my (incomplete) design), instead you have macro parameters in parentheses after the module name (the call itself has no name), and then after that you have the I/O vector (there is just one I/O vector). < 1378271675 18903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the number of bits in the I/O vector is an implicit macro parameter) < 1378271704 55688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of these kind of things? < 1378271992 760799 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda falling asleep atm :o < 1378272007 400659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378272305 559963 :douglass!~douglass@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378273261 693894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to me that SQL is almost suitable for text adventure games. < 1378273704 436908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PART :#esoteric < 1378273705 755796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378273761 635737 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1378274151 662406 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378274584 237694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you think that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park is New Jersey Style < 1378274597 4673 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378274616 85314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I may look later, not now < 1378274622 401054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1378274830 687071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wavelet trees are neat < 1378274836 920707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they < 1378274838 243762 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed edwardk's explanation in -lens < 1378274842 73979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1378274850 140973 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wavelets have to do with lens? < 1378274860 781463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#-lens is more like #edwardk < 1378274882 121851 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It generalizes the \mathbf{rank}_q and \mathbf{select}_q operations defined on bitvectors to arbitrary alphabets." oh, that's nice. < 1378274910 379508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably paste the logs. < 1378275813 687126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what are some nifty data structures and things < 1378276452 794210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip lists < 1378276469 736061 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1378276637 198530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already know about those :'( < 1378276707 27525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :work stealing queues < 1378276745 659327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibonacci heaps (comedy answer) < 1378277383 251855 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1378277769 359266 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378277874 453653 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvumuftjuqcpraen QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378277874 925877 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo NICK :ssue__ < 1378277992 347191 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378278195 673753 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378278199 231983 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone used Inline::C/ASM in Perl? < 1378278218 309159 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it worth using for just getting the address ESP points to? I feel like I'm cheating if I start using inline ASM in C, since I haven't been introduced to it. < 1378278267 539171 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheating due to not being introduced to it? < 1378278273 383553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1378278358 254496 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't understand how it works, but I could read up on it. < 1378278371 433560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "getting the address ESP points to" means in your context exactly. < 1378278397 70539 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: With regard to bufferoverflows/shellcode < 1378278412 822652 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like it's the same as ripping code. < 1378278439 503787 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think it's okay to just read up on it and use it, even if I haven't done it in K&R2? < 1378278469 532099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly not sure what you're on about. < 1378278650 994887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :using some Perl thing to find the value of ESP within some Perl code would not be very helpful for exploiting a C program, I think < 1378278669 631755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest you either learn the little bit of asm (it's not much) or do the hack of taking the address of a local variable, which will probably give you a number near ESP < 1378278680 604338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not really sure what you're on about, either < 1378278823 444067 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What I'm up to is just pointers, memcpy() and inline ASM. Pointers and memcpy() is chapter 5 I'm pretty certain, inline ASM I can just read up on after that. < 1378278832 569064 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost up to chapter 4, so I'll just have to speed through it. < 1378278862 409896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used Inline::C for no particular reason. But I concur that getting the value of esp in an Inline::C function does not sound terribly useful. < 1378278992 75886 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It does sound ridiculous. < 1378279021 735596 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But, I felt like it's cheating if I used inline ASM in C. < 1378279032 373332 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I'm not that far into it, yet. < 1378279056 908092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My "TV plot" program has been updated; now you can make even more strange and/or interesting and/or bad movies. < 1378279508 540068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdile: Why do you need the address ESP points to? < 1378279534 912589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't be very portable if you have ASM codes anyways < 1378279572 4602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is p. portable < 1378279616 27671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really so much. < 1378281075 114152 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378281765 435855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some way to unreverb audio signal? < 1378282017 566032 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to create a 'broken/vulnerable' encryption algorithm, in which one can obtain the key. http://pastebin.com/zj7b8Tsx < 1378282018 480664 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ideas? < 1378282111 910544 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you try to do that? < 1378282135 522095 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just for fun/learning < 1378282143 503251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1378282271 178071 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any ideas? < 1378282313 177415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I have is somehow have in addition to the normal key, to have a algorithm key, which can be used to recover the normal key. < 1378282321 693667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how you would do this, though. < 1378282429 825473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are various dereverberation algorithms, it's a big field. None of them are perfect, of course. < 1378282498 920306 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1378282554 673569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And usually need some assumptions.) < 1378282625 637702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for speech recognition? < 1378282643 245176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1378282666 858617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it isn't speech? < 1378282667 245316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might even be the context for majority of them. < 1378282728 433998 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just apply the inverse of the reverb? how hard can it be? < 1378282739 53885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them presumably would work up to some degree. Esp. the multi-microphone ones, but you might have just a single channel. < 1378282785 468718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's p. easy if you have a good estimate of the reverb. < 1378282936 63761 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( i.e. 4 // random number generated by toss of fair die < 1378282936 745682 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1378282953 684573 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if you use a block cipher with most of the block full of the same garbage in each block, then you will reveal the key < 1378283013 746019 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you poll /dev/random for 512 bits and compose blocks with the same 512 as fill.... < 1378283120 390718 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone? < 1378283139 333893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try that, see if it is working < 1378283175 358139 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum... spending over 1.5 hours writing a comment... exhausting < 1378283203 449360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What comment? < 1378283233 564251 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Hackage, it's a bit of a dense one. https://github.com/haskell/hackage-server/issues/40#issuecomment-23773355 < 1378283615 863750 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example. gen a key array; instead of target = xor(source[index],key_element[index])... do xor(source[index],key_element[index,index%N]) < 1378283741 197876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdile: Why do you have both "index" and "index%N" for the "key_element" now? < 1378283803 973030 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: take the same XOR code, but vary the key. the key is a keyset < 1378283811 471645 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so instead of a 1d array, it's 2d. < 1378283874 12457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it certainly doesn't seem so useful (since not all of the array is in use, it would seem), unless you can vary N, or whatever < 1378284542 420955 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i am suggesting two dimenions, with the second being somewhat small (10, 20) < 1378284567 48822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that already < 1378284649 164624 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: but... in retrospect, i see that does not make it two dimensional, it just makes the other bytes redundat < 1378284650 826963 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1378284660 970934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is what I was saying < 1378284994 322576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378286409 462704 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378286641 526675 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist gamzee < 1378286643 13328 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist gamzee: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378287647 565134 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rutviafgmspfksgc QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378287660 335271 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjzfdbczjebdjkpn QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378287948 514346 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378289433 895040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378291115 261543 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oefpjhxlxfpcxakq JOIN :#esoteric < 1378291389 886434 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zryxjtxobarscocr JOIN :#esoteric < 1378292041 225969 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378293731 126234 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378294099 799746 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:f102:9ed:a2e3:7f6e QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378294189 243492 :sdile!6572496b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.114.73.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378294322 349990 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378295043 357232 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378295125 268951 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i am nervous < 1378295527 352215 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nyaa? < 1378295873 417200 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you Fiora < 1378297047 766551 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378297609 560137 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378299749 329016 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378299801 51477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378299827 952147 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378301650 336870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good not-so-many-idlers-today morning! < 1378301751 437952 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idling is the great international pastime. :) < 1378301817 142449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhello! < 1378301875 780435 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378301923 670331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome azaq23 < 1378301926 817557 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02azaq132302: Welcom03e to08 the03 inte12rnational hub for e09so12ter11ic programming l10anguage d09es12i10g07n and deployment! 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(04For the 13other k12ind of esoter02ic04a, try #esoteric14 on i11rc08.dal.net.12) < 1378302190 722870 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378302627 422315 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378303011 554356 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378303660 320309 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1378304521 491015 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1378304647 5695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378304875 912694 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378305337 302428 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1378305697 395734 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378306653 738179 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378306993 500905 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1378307020 40640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia. still voiced? < 1378307036 970148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378307048 430721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. i will stay voiced until my vps crashes again < 1378307050 663781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellom_Hoover. < 1378307057 267367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that hasnt happened in a long time < 1378307106 564125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many nines can you expect from your vps? what are the k and λ of the crashes per year? < 1378307173 527322 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never crashed until this year. i have no idea why it started happening, but it was often for a while there. probably some changes i made causing a recurring kernel panic. < 1378307245 573769 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck < 1378307245 754281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly i can't connect to steam < 1378307434 897987 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes people get emotionally estranged for subtle reasons. i doubt it is completely uncaused. what kinds of things have you been saying to steam the past few days? < 1378307550 967147 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378307601 926396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i need an umlaut < 1378307642 445585 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¨ < 1378307649 646740 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a trema but no one will notice < 1378307755 73064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can umlautify random letters in my ongoing LaTeX project. < 1378307774 422356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they'll be real, certified authentic german-made umlauts. accept no substitute!) < 1378307851 636252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378307852 194419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also, if you're attempting to apply vodou on Phantom_Hoover with tréma, the rituals will... well... they'll work. but then there are Cönsequences. < 1378307865 202557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no comment < 1378307913 208715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Cömment eh < 1378307918 785659 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I am not insane. the mayonnaise from that early morning BTL bagel from McDo didn't have no abverse effect on me whatsoever. < 1378307927 833296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ab/ad/ < 1378307944 742673 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i c wut u did thar < 1378307953 521648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/TL/LT/ < 1378307962 787941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't fool me with your sneaky double negatives < 1378307979 179487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. foiled again! < 1378308157 587028 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoots a pineapple chunk at boily from a straw
< 1378308222 378144 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION receives a ballistic fruit chunk on his head. “Hey!”
< 1378308253 182681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the only cure for mayo-induced insanity < 1378308305 400983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at quintopia じ〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜〜
< 1378308330 447880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks and hides
< 1378308555 491327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know where you (approẍimately) live! you won't get away! nyah. nyah ah ah. MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1378308619 513871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh, ẍ is used in Kurdish for [ʁ]. interesting.) < 1378308728 114401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotated-and-flipped small-but-capital R < 1378308871 924986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the metropolitan French «r». < 1378308913 258207 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zryxjtxobarscocr QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378308950 125728 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378308960 121365 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call it [r] then < 1378308990 676442 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, it's [ʁ], but /r/. < 1378309007 140270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(those phone{m,t}ic transliterations are confusing as fungot.) < 1378309007 286032 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type is created containing the syntax for mark if he was really gonna get worse and worse each week, i fnord kara to hold me until i fell over, with much ado. your sister is the better part made mercie, i should think at least, that is expressions which have not been able to < 1378309012 134933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh hai < 1378309057 652742 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you don't know my current coordinates1 < 1378309062 228190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: お早う。 < 1378309064 106927 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily:are you implying that phonetics written as /.../ and [...] are two DIFFERENT languages? < 1378309086 229112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :なに? < 1378309131 680361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: afaiu, the phonemic /.../ uses as many different symbols needed to differentiate all recognized sounds in a language, and then you have [...] for the exact realisation. itthth. < 1378309134 963915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: bon matin. < 1378309156 693758 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bof < 1378309177 444012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: so, whatever the way we each realise our «r»s, it'll be /r/ because French has a single «r» sound. < 1378309188 99728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ohayou gozaimasu! =D < 1378309201 323136 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do some japanese, just... no kanjis =P < 1378309202 197789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: say, do you roll your «r»? < 1378309210 881913 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Define rolling < 1378309219 66784 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you just post SAMPA, it doesn't count < 1378309225 16008 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a different /../ for every language, but there's a signle [...] and it's international? < 1378309227 95015 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or IPA < 1378309237 239968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever < 1378309246 769274 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_trill < 1378309250 529427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Better yet! Record yourself, and I'll tell you < 1378309250 674773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: something like that. there's some fuziness, depending on what you're analysing. < 1378309251 514176 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rolling an r" imo < 1378309257 128848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Thanks ^^ < 1378309273 376097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do that >_> < 1378309290 512134 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_uvular_fricative usual french r < 1378309292 647276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: c'est pas compliqué pour moi. prend l'accent de québec. < 1378309300 64502 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not in québec though < 1378309311 664664 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That's how I say it, yeah < 1378309314 530475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I have a friend from the Beauce region who rolls her rs. < 1378309342 978346 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: when my girlfriend asks me to give her uvular fricative I'm pretty sure that's not what she means < 1378309354 543034 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378309370 658859 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote nooodl: when my girlfriend asks me to give her uvular fricative I'm pretty sure that's not what she means < 1378309374 900623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1101) nooodl: when my girlfriend asks me to give her uvular fricative I'm pretty sure that's not what she means < 1378309388 286077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Koen_ < 1378309390 215673 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378309390 437305 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378309390 620929 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1378309391 56030 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Koen < 1378309392 879797 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378309393 178203 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1378309393 323355 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1378309394 649071 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to fix that < 1378309405 254098 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum. < 1378309433 608764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Uvular Fricative Expert, according to his girlfriend. *wink wink nudge nudge* > wisdom/koen_ < 1378309437 28010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378309438 112057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the trilled r still exists. your best bet for hearing it is to find a vicar. < 1378309446 946437 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm wisdom/koen_ < 1378309447 603992 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1378309450 658331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378309452 79399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyyyyy < 1378309452 224600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just lazy < 1378309461 165713 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Phantom < 1378309467 317730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, what do you suggest, then? < 1378309505 413672 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also are you sure you can use the character '*' in a parameter for echo without quotes? < 1378309522 276132 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Nope. Didn't stop me, though =P < 1378309530 566845 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst that could happen? < 1378309556 263970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: just to be sure, use a «*̈». < 1378309572 431299 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it could run the command with every file that matches *wink and every file that matches nudge*, or something < 1378309594 199997 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How the hell do you do these < 1378309619 254916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Using echo? < 1378309632 272041 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had done something like rm, then yeah < 1378309638 177954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cat < 1378309647 124819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But echo... I don't see how it could break < 1378309658 58285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only one way to find out < 1378309663 625234 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And no, that's not "man echo") < 1378309669 106285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Test *test* test < 1378309670 642624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test *test* test < 1378309676 711929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Test *test* test > testing < 1378309678 770027 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://pastebin.com/RS5hV8JH < 1378309680 935687 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378309686 354340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat testing < 1378309687 905845 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test *test* test < 1378309690 491786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1378309711 870613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: candian multilingual standard keyboard layout, and iso level 3 abuse :D < 1378309728 206794 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Oooh, nice. I see what you mean now. < 1378309740 599844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, some customisation, UIM with Anthy, and a waaaaaay too permissive terminal) < 1378309741 553838 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you said that it would overwrite all the files < 1378309750 104155 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no echo wouldn't do that < 1378309753 432670 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1378309755 351606 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I meant filename, not file < 1378309757 480387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I get what you mean now < 1378309782 79475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know what could happen, I just figured that it wouldn't break anything other than that wisdom itself < 1378309861 626243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I see =P < 1378309920 882311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: IPA input is a little bit more involved. I need a GTK app (usually leafpad) to select the input method, then copy&paste into weechat. < 1378309955 722658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh =P < 1378310067 890106 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378310617 675446 :PixelToast!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378310718 259519 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378310765 558284 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone active? < 1378311106 646755 :Solain!54e592e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.229.146.232 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378311234 678156 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1378311331 937984 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like shubshub < 1378311336 669515 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool I'm still an op < 1378311346 119664 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anyone like to be banned?? < 1378311533 456034 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378311704 866607 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to quit, really < 1378311707 340604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thanks < 1378311711 430188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wow, Solain < 1378311720 61318 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A good... 6 minutes? < 1378311754 379093 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, imo kick kmc he's bear < 1378311797 12317 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll kick glogbackup for not actually needing to be here. < 1378311801 124326 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: will that break anything? < 1378311922 361560 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378312381 609294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott kicks glogbot, freenode dies < 1378312405 457570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :»Just got a PR pitch that described the act of placing a wet iPhone in a bag of rice to dry out as, "an old folk remedy."» < 1378312433 869750 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378312448 127031 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's » » to represent moving towards the future, if you're wondering < 1378312452 624337 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an arrow of quoted fact < 1378312460 840813 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aimed directly at the heart of the past! < 1378312471 394091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric Bike :thank you for giving me somebody to kick. < 1378312483 911069 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378312488 280043 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +o :Bike > 1378312488 391315 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378312489 625265 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1378312489 635094 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378312491 561727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mischief is over. < 1378312493 614589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what just happened < 1378312503 671153 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i got kicked wow < 1378312507 500715 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -v :elliott > 1378312507 510799 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378312509 625128 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw don't actually do anything unless it's amusing or oerjan will freak < 1378312510 883803 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378312511 369674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll show you < 1378312528 241012 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 NICK :carado < 1378312568 855444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378312948 537425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it oerjan is allergic to admin abuse? < 1378312984 901061 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only when he doesn't do it, hth! < 1378312997 709359 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ilu oerjan <3) < 1378313643 552138 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not even in here < 1378313649 869611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So abuse away! =D < 1378313724 843897 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have logs < 1378313790 229458 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan has a habit of reading through the logs when he arrives < 1378313799 948562 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, future oerjan < 1378313828 483855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure would be unfortunate if something were to... happen to those logs, huh < 1378313836 881707 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like................. < 1378313842 243256 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -v :glogbackup > 1378313842 253365 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378313845 532650 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!! < 1378313859 154705 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're still on tunes and codu < 1378313873 83555 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck with devoicing the server < 1378313885 130095 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude i said !!!!! < 1378313890 48839 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :get with the program. this is bikeland now. < 1378313895 113159 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sorry < 1378313903 994456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly. < 1378313910 393341 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should edit `welcome then < 1378313943 188482 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh I gotta go < 1378313949 568545 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378314009 455855 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378314018 976729 :tromp__!~tromp@216.223.243.148 QUIT : < 1378314117 405094 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets mode -v codu.org
< 1378314316 188236 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378314579 316360 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378314585 253005 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1378314590 636613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the glorious reign of bike ends. < 1378314610 701571 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with a bang, but with god why does it always take five minutes to connect here. < 1378314616 175448 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ridiculous. < 1378314619 453938 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :Bike > 1378314619 478599 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314629 271694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three strikes and yer out < 1378314670 215943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You timed out 260 seconds after I devoiced the server, with a timeout of 256 seconds < 1378314675 158395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that very suspicious < 1378314684 787652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a phở and Bike is op. interesting. < 1378314709 104038 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it's too late now. < 1378314716 976413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +o :Roujo > 1378314716 998549 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314721 25916 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -o :Bike > 1378314721 48456 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314722 180568 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1378314727 163561 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must leave the empire to another. < 1378314728 808214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1378314735 916162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will honor the empire < 1378314741 995657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels suddenly, viscerally terrified
< 1378314748 733896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just want to see oerjan react to this =P) < 1378314767 855490 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo MODE #esoteric +v :boily > 1378314767 878162 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314774 576567 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't feel bad, young boily < 1378314779 80250 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, anyway, how's the pho < 1378314783 974273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo! back to voice! < 1378314791 781713 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to talk about these things now that i'm merely a commoner < 1378314802 189040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 'twas good. the thai pepper was still fresh and powerful. < 1378314808 656964 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, req. ops < 1378314809 135586 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1378314813 787911 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember the last time i had pho really < 1378314818 283605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: beware of 3.5e cats. they can kill you. < 1378314822 651718 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is weird because i like noodles in general?? < 1378314823 259887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: + < 1378314831 558393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a nice operator < 1378314832 635183 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo give phantom halfop. < 1378314842 270491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think freenode supports half-ops < 1378314844 432624 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried once < 1378314845 555766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there are a few places where you can get handmade ramen for cheap. < 1378314845 828441 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :%Phantom_Hoover < 1378314858 486460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand made ramen? sewn out of raw tree < 1378314859 553465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"h: is an unknown mode char to me" < 1378314870 62031 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to whom < 1378314874 616045 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server < 1378314881 400513 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the server can talk? < 1378314886 127724 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :E replied that when I tried to half-op Phantom_Hoover < 1378314892 363266 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1378314898 64365 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quote the server < 1378314900 591573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll see < 1378314901 12068 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -o :Roujo > 1378314901 34001 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314903 713880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378314904 369917 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :boily > 1378314904 392358 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314905 854530 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :kmc > 1378314905 864397 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314907 564472 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :quintopia > 1378314907 581944 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378314909 525044 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels suddenly, viscerally terrified
< 1378314916 73597 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a coup! < 1378314916 357511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1378314922 920232 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus ended the Reign of Roujo the Lachinois < 1378314938 8078 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who dares, and how can i properly demonstrate my fealty to them < 1378314963 632875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's double talk for "suck up to them", right? < 1378314975 675794 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :single talk, really < 1378315008 232681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378315263 745080 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ramen < 1378315265 436641 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ramen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378315266 41335 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378315266 186602 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1378315308 960490 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。" >wisdom/ramen < 1378315312 320413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378315324 145147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I hate myself and need more latexian challenges. < 1378315448 660744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1378315514 669183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and one more thing: elliott, you are oppressing me. check your privileges. < 1378315644 41138 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fsck /dev/privilege < 1378315645 532579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: fsck: command not found < 1378315655 683149 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378316073 320676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cksum /dev/privilege < 1378316074 820636 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cksum: /dev/privilege: No such file or directory < 1378316082 942198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cksum wisdom/ramen < 1378316084 308229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1845405672 55 wisdom/ramen < 1378316130 433176 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cksum /dev/random > bin/fsck < 1378316138 6905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1378316139 874054 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-afzzmuyidpcamzqq JOIN :#esoteric < 1378316150 218292 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :An echo was supposed to get in there < 1378316158 207270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1378316171 511428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, /dev/urandom < 1378316174 927351 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re-welp < 1378316185 415681 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/evenmorerandom < 1378316193 325682 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316196 355752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378316202 445870 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/fksk < 1378316204 19292 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/fksk: No such file or directory < 1378316209 479993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest18414: who are you? why don't you echo? did you check the Random Check? how does the aftertaste of a mouthful of algæ feel? < 1378316210 654496 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/fsck < 1378316212 201573 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316222 945078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo cksum /dev/random > bin/fsck < 1378316226 801445 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316227 590687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo cksum /dev/urandom > bin/fsck < 1378316229 567724 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1378316231 428787 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316234 800828 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Guest18414 < 1378316237 578455 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0212Guest18414: 11Welcom12e to th12e in07ternat13ional h06ub for esoteric pro03gram10ming language design07 an07d10 de08ployment! For 04more11 in02form10ation, check out our wi10ki: http:07//e13solangs.org/w04iki09/Main_12Page. (Fo12r t03he o06ther k02ind of e14soter13ica05, try 11#esoteri12c on irc.da04l.net.) < 1378316241 40064 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :than dogs < 1378316251 653972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1378316251 961365 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Small Exceeding" to "Conjoining" < 1378316256 461681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1378316256 653266 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Parting" to "Articulating" < 1378316260 915995 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice one < 1378316263 624771 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378316265 292061 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop doing it more than once........... < 1378316269 11260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: small exceeding is more conjoining than dogs. < 1378316277 355588 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't want *his* divination < 1378316278 362683 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really < 1378316279 985210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want mine < 1378316281 862959 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: do not consume more than your fair share of yiïtude. < 1378316311 648105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is one more than a fair share? < 1378316317 695848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it said small exceeding < 1378316324 789567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: dunno. ask Bike. < 1378316325 359074 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a small exceeding of the amount of ~yis is therefore indicated < 1378316331 575019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fsck elliott < 1378316333 1653 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/fsck: Permission denied < 1378316343 869157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1378316350 319452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/fsck < 1378316354 175699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316354 842845 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fsck elliott < 1378316385 814942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378316400 44109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... good? < 1378316468 3871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378316475 336005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1378316488 529747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BotVerse broke < 1378316496 68763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Singularity is imminent < 1378316496 214408 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378316502 426998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Run) < 1378316503 743148 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378316507 668118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378316508 285963 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 041709Z 21008KT 15SM -SHRA FEW020 BKN030 OVC090 17/14 A2986 RMK SC2SC3AC3 SLP111 DENSITY ALT 400FT < 1378316530 133057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew. and here I thought even the weather was borken. < 1378316670 440092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't mention the raining squirrels < 1378316674 335943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't like that up there < 1378316740 675687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the first thing I noticed when I moved to Montréal was the humongous megasquirrels. < 1378316759 446693 :PixelToast!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1378316790 294326 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378317085 765908 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1378317087 354844 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378317090 527176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1378317090 697337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378317100 40219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, but... < 1378317114 942876 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? but < 1378317116 427347 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :but? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378317116 665904 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1378317116 863808 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1378317119 615388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378317120 883218 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378317177 999920 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so `learn is once again acting weird. < 1378317184 222972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliott < 1378317186 223375 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378317192 877631 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1378317226 674608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1378317228 863236 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1378317466 652369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that is good < 1378317527 810389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lagging behind... time to upgrade! < 1378317543 513681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sudo apt-get upgrade boily < 1378317544 729019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: sudo: command not found < 1378317550 963914 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1378317560 534434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? treaty < 1378317561 778706 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which apt-get < 1378317562 186820 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Treaty on `lists treats how to `list our treats. < 1378317563 477800 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/apt-get < 1378317566 190933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378317570 962836 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run apt-get upgrade boily < 1378317572 436282 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :W: Unable to read /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ - DirectoryExists (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2: No such file or directory) \ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? < 1378317576 463540 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff < 1378317593 634791 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run su - < 1378317595 34399 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378317600 150198 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... yes? < 1378317635 354576 :fsioufosud!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378317639 706918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome fsioufosud < 1378317642 7512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12f14siou11fosud02: Welcome to 03th07e international hub for es10oteric programmi04n02g langu05age desig13n 07and deploymen10t! For more12 i11nformat08ion, c05heck out o11ur w06iki: http://eso04langs.org/wi07ki/Mai10n_Pag13e.06 (For the other05 kind o02f esote04rica, try #esoteric on irc02.11dal05.net05.) < 1378317872 850103 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378317902 30484 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he fell off < 1378318210 296171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this compiler command line is... 16,840 characters long < 1378318258 752562 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bit frightening < 1378318276 150457 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just got to the point where you almost need to optimize *that* before compiling < 1378318343 329718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know something went horribly wrong when you have a novella in a compiler line... < 1378318368 129043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I wonder what the maximum command line length is on this system < 1378318373 654740 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :most compilers support a response file to put the command line when you reach the OS limit < 1378318381 630007 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: .... < 1378318388 906817 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because some projects inevitably actually need it < 1378318395 197492 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious < 1378318397 900584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it look like? < 1378318403 130545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you get to that point? < 1378318408 81409 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, how, really < 1378318423 685245 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :linking anything with a huge number of modules, for example < 1378318424 131014 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :add files, add more files, keep adding more files, and eventually you get there < 1378318426 554193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admitedly, I don't compile stuff using the command line < 1378318438 712472 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't even kno-- oh < 1378318442 161080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, simple enough < 1378318446 117081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1378318474 391073 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler -f file.cpp file2.cpp ... filen-1.cpp filen.cpp < 1378318477 256320 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that&? < 1378318490 161943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With just files) < 1378318498 589055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some projects use absolute paths, recursive symlinks, redundant ../ components in paths, etc to reach the limit faster < 1378318503 630279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378318527 398123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a lot of things like -L/home/keegan/proj/servo/servo/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/src/support/png/rust-png/src/.libs -Wl,-rpath,/home/keegan/proj/servo/servo/build/x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu/src/support/png/rust-png < 1378318538 221480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for each of like two dozen libraries < 1378318543 281703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also some of them are just repeated I think < 1378318591 674331 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378318604 950189 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good stuff =P < 1378318658 746859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378318785 521419 :fsioufosud!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378318805 356553 :xxx!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378318809 831947 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378318896 94473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome xxx < 1378318899 198914 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08xxx: Welcome t02o the10 interna09tional 04h05ub12 f14or esoteric 07programming lan06guage desig12n an10d d06ep14loy07ment! For 13mor05e 06informatio03n, check 07out09 our wiki: 02http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For t06he othe08r kind of esoteric07a,14 11t14ry #esoteric 11o10n irc.dal.06ne03t14.) < 1378319209 188429 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378319420 60347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: a Bike falling off a Bike. I'm ashamed it took me that long to understand it. < 1378319469 204887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378319496 311417 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i help you < 1378319504 943853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you help us? < 1378319587 276831 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:04:32] Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378319587 422349 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14:05:01] I guess he fell off < 1378319593 688258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all, really < 1378319598 76120 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring imo < 1378319615 422221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be < 1378319621 455654 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't claim otherwise < 1378319636 630116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a spur-of-the-moment thing < 1378319646 48655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehlp with what? < 1378319649 672332 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing too serious < 1378319714 536517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think this channel supports extended help. you're stuck with regular help here. hth. < 1378319745 177524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :man #esoteric < 1378319752 615049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man #esoteric < 1378319754 64749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1378319910 573991 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378319999 404526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tromp < 1378320001 982419 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07tr09omp:06 W02elcome13 to th04e intern07ationa11l hub for e03soteric08 prog10ramming language design and de11ployment! For04 more in05formation, check o02ut o06u13r wiki: ht02tp://esolangs08.org/wiki/M03ain_Page. (For14 the06 other kind of e03s12oterica,11 05try #09eso10teri06c on i14rc.07da07l.ne03t.) < 1378320036 965798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/random > /dev/boily < 1378320038 70197 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /dev/boily: Read-only file system < 1378320042 439732 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378320072 53312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I formatted your quotes in the wisdom pdf. < 1378320086 524881 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, what < 1378320123 523081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why are you read-only. Why can't you change. < 1378320135 542119 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gave you the chance to change. I was there for you. < 1378320144 508512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only asked little things every now and then < 1378320147 767341 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I just need to format that }-ful part, but otherwise I think everything else is fine. < 1378320148 839398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to be happy, for once < 1378320161 197627 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this in the topic < 1378320164 176032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's a temporary maintenance measure. < 1378320166 445418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it is. < 1378320170 470210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But apparently, I'm not even enough for you to do that < 1378320179 192455 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who will be enough, boily? < 1378320184 203306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who will you change for? < 1378320189 973637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inb4 root) < 1378320201 111410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: uhm... my SO, I guess? < 1378320238 177902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: tu peux toujours aussi faire un tour à soir à La Récréation (coin St-Denis / Ontario). y'a une soirée jeux organisée pour le festival OUMF. < 1378320245 929607 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1378320262 365177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :J'aime bien les envolées pseudo-lyriques < 1378320262 643022 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "The People Wisom"? < 1378320311 979864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes? should I have titled the chapter “The Moving Thingies Wisdom”? < 1378320332 665728 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it not "Wisdom" < 1378320339 812378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: J'ai un peu un souper avec ma SO, en fait =P < 1378320347 828151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh. right. stupid typo. < 1378320357 837225 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'faut dégeler le poulet et tout < 1378320369 310661 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ais's quotes at least aren't all newlined, oh no < 1378320380 261510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: dans ce cas là, m'a te souhaiter un bon dégelage bien romantique et tout et tout :D < 1378320395 443146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I know, it was only a first attempt. I'm handreformatting everything. < 1378320400 992885 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. < 1378320420 861303 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. only a kiloquote all in all. nothing too long. < 1378320433 472548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Le poulet, c'est pour demain. Ce soir, c'est du saumon qui a mariné toute la journée. =3 < 1378320445 396556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oooooooooooh! yummy! < 1378320612 292521 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378320693 600021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quicksilver < 1378320695 480463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quicksilver? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378320695 752326 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  | < 1378320695 947350 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                º¯`\o < 1378320712 995969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... obscure people are archæologically referenced in antique quotes. < 1378320772 52909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of Z-Comp? < 1378320774 853164 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like itidus? < 1378320810 344212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was there when itidus was. I'm talking even more earlier in the Early Times. < 1378320830 7859 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's earlier than me so it probably didn't actually happen < 1378320835 160660 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully this makes things easier for you. < 1378320854 809487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to things not existing. you know, Canada and all that sort of thing. < 1378320866 797785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck z-comp < 1378320867 60675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378320906 414610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to enter Z-Comp then you have to enter by Saturday, 28 Sep 2013, 07:14:36 PM EDT. Do so if you are interested to make a computer game for Z-machine. There is two ways to enter, either make account in ifMUD and fill the form, or just write a message to me about your entry and I will put it in for you. < 1378320976 223728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you interest to write computer games following the limitation of Z-machine? < 1378321009 635385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The current theme (which is optional, and can be conjunctive or disjunctive at your choice) is: Richardson fire // 2009-10 Leicester City F.C. season // Merciful to gibbering mouthers and the other monsters < 1378321034 321763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first two are random Wikipedia article titles. The third is from a file I wrote myself (it is secret). < 1378321103 717576 :ff34!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378321124 211878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ff34 < 1378321127 330477 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12ff0734: W07elcome to12 the intern05atio14na10l10 hub for 04eso03t10eric p13r09ogr13a13mm11ing lan06guage design and deplo06yment! Fo10r 07more information, check03 out 08our wiki:10 h09ttp://13esolangs.org/wiki/Ma03in_Page03. (For t13he other kind of07 esoterica, try #esote14ric o13n07 irc.dal.net.)13 < 1378321144 350199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a color computer? < 1378321157 36769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I already visited your muddy apartment. the z-compo sounds very interesting, but I fear my free time is quite limited :( < 1378321176 559279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer is a thinkpad. I fear it has no colour. < 1378321194 613729 :xxx!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378321214 629665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah. Well, it is recurring (with different themes each time, although the themes from my list will be eventually repeated if they weren't used yet in a submitted game) < 1378321318 791926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know when you do have time? < 1378321320 185660 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378321362 940236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you see all of the rooms in my ifMUD apartment yet though? < 1378321426 580119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the time gets grasped, it will be had. a carp a day, and a pickled salmon. < 1378321444 187435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: exploring MUDs is even more time consuming than seeing everything in Riven. < 1378321478 872136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't help about the time. Do you know approximately the time in terms of calendar, perhaps? < 1378321596 479983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :December at the earliest. < 1378321614 800083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this theme or do you like a different theme? < 1378321702 733133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the fire, the mouthers, but my general knowledge of Leicester is quite limited. < 1378321743 776595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK; you needn't use all of them (or any of them); combine them for a challenge or just use a single one if you prefer < 1378321783 704127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :firebreathing mouthers from outer space... RECYCLED IN SPACE!!! < 1378321829 398406 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat boily | echo > boily < 1378321990 846763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have decided to make this theme file public anyways http://zzo38computer.org/zmachine/zcomptheme.txt < 1378322011 591412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? GreyKnight < 1378322013 756961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GreyKnight? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378322014 128375 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1378322014 308188 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1378322026 111183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another defunct artefact from olden times. < 1378322077 555497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/user/GreyKnight < 1378322089 690936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :One comment, two years ago < 1378322155 647487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't find me on reddit :P < 1378322185 256455 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1378322186 213308 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :___ < 1378322187 143781 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378322213 945036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :___? < 1378322214 871424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bravo pour la rébellion < 1378322224 258359 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'est toujours bien, se rebeller dans /r/___ < 1378322228 322060 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! :D < 1378322240 394148 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378322250 653333 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't greyknight the one from ireland < 1378322277 8495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you like any of these themes? < 1378322328 268871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I... think you asked me that one already. tdh, twh, hth, and a good dose of déjà vu. < 1378322356 499957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did write the same question but the context is different now so it is a different kind of question really < 1378322385 3253 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. contextually, yes. /r/___ is quite original, and I've yet to meet somebody from Ireland. < 1378322415 526935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell cpressey I'm gel-ing your aloofness. < 1378322415 672218 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378322417 849089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean the file I just made public < 1378322453 889760 :ff34!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378322496 121311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. that link went straight through my blind spot. lemme check that... < 1378322497 552729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378322534 402342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 “Automynorcagrammatical” what the fungot... I like that one. < 1378322534 547655 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378322534 547827 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there it is, in case he doesn't want you to the ancients, right. some numbers, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, < 1378323822 260518 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378323874 983129 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, how's jsvine's II going? < 1378324109 772628 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know but maybe fungot < 1378324109 954086 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: more simply put: siod sucks as a general purpose ( similar, and i'd like to see that mystical forest powers, but this time on the impact of the introduction to theoretical computer, fnord of the fnord here, just above me, asked me to do that in the " better" language < 1378324115 764462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: are you still idling? kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty... < 1378324161 988680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell jsvine siod, mystical forest powers, introduction impacts and some fnords. < 1378324162 133883 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378324232 931245 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the Daily LaTeX Question: anyone ever did big O notation? < 1378324234 409486 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some what? < 1378324244 994419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnords < 1378324249 218648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: a fnord. basic unit of “you didn't see that”. < 1378324250 165100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it never came up < 1378324255 583842 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A what? < 1378324259 984475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1378324281 844271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fnord is the quintessential invisible word. if you see it, then you don't. < 1378324322 879608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I use "the" all the time < 1378324327 385318 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And still see it < 1378324408 745434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms
< 1378324435 82279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lobs a whole pineapple over at Roujo's head.
< 1378324446 21537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you fiend. < 1378324450 795095 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fnord is one of the first visible signs of invisibility < 1378324499 894961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: <3 < 1378324575 360549 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat115.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378325203 888989 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378325487 374375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the plural of hiatus hiati? < 1378325519 530529 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiatusesii < 1378325576 704571 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378325590 735834 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, if you're being pedantic it's "hiatus" < 1378325608 406355 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the same as the singular < 1378325632 722260 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Latin is a weird language and English ate a lot of its weirdness < 1378325646 211726 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hiatuses" is acceptable in English < 1378325682 824828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one hiatu, two hiatus, three hiatuses. < 1378325758 407855 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then four hiatusesu, five hiatusesus, six hiatuseses? < 1378325853 220850 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, you are getting the hang of this < 1378325881 431089 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we just wait until suffixirth < 1378325916 360483 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378325996 633989 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irthative < 1378325998 369362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :irthative? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378325998 656401 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1378325998 852212 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1378326005 546384 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hiatuses" is "your best bet" here < 1378326052 543296 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, unless you're against a pedant < 1378326056 129621 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "breaks" < 1378326064 57359 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, if anyone tells you "hiati", they are wrong < 1378326077 821232 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nah you just ignore dumb people hth < 1378326091 570805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pedant < 1378326093 133328 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :187) ... come to think of it, < 1378326119 720267 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking of examples where "englishifying" a latin word, grammatically, sounds really bad... < 1378326121 141918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378326155 590217 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo "matrixes" is weird? < 1378326186 365354 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrii? < 1378326197 296461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrices is the usual plural, no? < 1378326199 835755 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378326217 22641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix means uterus in latin? ok then < 1378326230 320324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in spanish (or something like it) < 1378326230 545771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay only spam in my inbox today < 1378326231 696247 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :also "indices", "vertices". whereas "indexes" and "vertixes" are kinda dumb-looking < 1378326240 368892 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, vertexes < 1378326249 968485 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary says the latin plural of "mātrīx" is "mātrīcēs" < 1378326251 89725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, um. < 1378326255 103711 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the plural of asterix? < 1378326256 777290 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick a different example? < 1378326260 393802 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :asterices? < 1378326268 571256 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ateripodes < 1378326274 912761 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :asteripodes, rather < 1378326287 929634 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably asteripoda < 1378326307 253397 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't see the issue < 1378326320 322250 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not talking about "-us" -> "-i" in specific, if that's what you mean < 1378326323 272145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(makes it so quick to read, you know) < 1378326330 90843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you're not "englishifying" anything, the latin was originally "matrixes" < 1378326346 60872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um _no_. < 1378326347 201460 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not, it's martices < 1378326349 428998 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*matrices < 1378326369 380942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-x -> -ces is pretty regular 3rd declension. < 1378326383 160137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can also get -ges, though.) < 1378326398 48993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i misread. < 1378326401 828838 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, fuck, nevermind. bye < 1378326407 728492 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :byeke < 1378326408 706903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cu < 1378326424 971826 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's a *de*clension, is -ces -> -x a clension? < 1378326433 593162 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs [Bb]yeke < 1378326445 632977 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :something tells me i can't be original here < 1378326454 732721 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I think it's an aclension < 1378326473 236967 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :dedeclension < 1378326473 737329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3855 < 1378326489 537962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i decline to answer that. < 1378326489 981488 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i am. amazing < 1378326500 467075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :code clension < 1378326556 955954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fgrep '[a-z]' bin/* < 1378326559 657805 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378326570 653564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fgrep '[A-Z]' bin/* < 1378326572 467368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378326586 620924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1378326594 204978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fgrep grep bin/* < 1378326595 737544 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/anonlog: grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1| sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ bin/anonlog: echo "$file:$(grep "<.*>" $file | shuf -n 1)" | sed "s=<[^>]*> ==" \ bin/define: grep -A 3 'Definitions of' | \ bin/etymology: grep -A 100 ']'"$1" | \ bin/google: grep -A 4 'Search Results' | \ bin/js:isOpenJDK=`$JAVA_CMD -version 2>&1 | gre < 1378326621 725314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whatever. < 1378326631 859296 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it seems declension does mean something about bending, which is the swedish word for it < 1378326675 328518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378326677 103607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was briefly wondering whether the grep localization madness from yesterday affected any HackEgo commands.
< 1378326705 761150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed grep localization madness? awwww < 1378326713 643208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: basically: < 1378326724 820265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo TEST | grep '[a-z]' < 1378326726 421697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEST < 1378326766 280614 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1378326770 436977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1378326811 720860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, grep [.-.] uses the local collation order to determine which letters are in between - so when that collation order is case insensitive, things get included unexpectedly. < 1378326829 598619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ZZZ | grep '[a-z]' < 1378326831 400796 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378326837 344963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1378326839 187469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now guess why this _doesn't_ print :P < 1378326896 121809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo YYY | grep '[a-z]' < 1378326897 760792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :YYY < 1378326916 604887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw you can still use [:upper:] and [:lower:] slightly more portably.) < 1378326921 23461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because z < Z? < 1378326924 396603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378326966 186634 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :brr, grep shouldn't use locales < 1378326968 686478 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use grep in scripts and don't want it to be weird < 1378326974 145073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ZZZ | grep -Finr '[a-z]' < 1378326975 769865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378326983 952960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ZZZ | grep -Einr '[a-z]' < 1378326985 718628 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:ZZZ < 1378326997 382273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ééé | grep -Einr '[a-z]' < 1378326999 177343 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1:ééé < 1378327004 698743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat. < 1378327022 621792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: just unset all the environment variables, _so_ simple. < 1378327040 745921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run locale < 1378327042 168626 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ < 1378327072 898609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo øøø | grep -Ei '[a-z]' < 1378327074 387415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​øøø < 1378327077 418129 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378327086 212090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ẍẍẍ | grep -Ei '[a-z]' < 1378327087 692745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẍẍẍ < 1378327110 314559 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :using -i doesn't exactly demonstrate the weirdness < 1378327123 402969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ẍẍẍ | grep -E '[a-z]' < 1378327124 984915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẍẍẍ < 1378327131 821298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ẍẍẍ | grep '[a-z]' < 1378327133 401189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ẍẍẍ < 1378327148 638749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ꝑꝑꝑ | grep '[a-z]' < 1378327150 125404 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378327152 200342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1378327238 303897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh actually LC_ALL takes precedence over the rest, so just set that. < 1378327251 516799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ẍẍẍ < 1378327253 12701 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :7821 7821 7821 < 1378327283 287272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I don't mind if weird localized people get broken results, they should just learn english and set their locale to C < 1378327297 672573 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bleh. < 1378327304 680169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a norwegian bleh, mind you.) < 1378327311 888823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you weird and localized? < 1378327338 398071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: définitivement. < 1378327346 314205 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378327356 75371 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: förträffligt < 1378327404 349027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the approximants. they disagree with my tongue. < 1378327423 710223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what approximants < 1378327504 279826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wbike < 1378327513 540952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoerjan < 1378327540 420888 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. approximants in Danish, weird vowels in Swedish, and I'm confused by the nynorsk/bokmål dichotomy. < 1378327555 584901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the grep man page, it actually describes this [a-z] weirdness quite explicitly. < 1378327607 392760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nynorsk has slightly more interesting vowels. < 1378327698 504977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think förträffligt starts with [fœ̞ˈʈ] < 1378327714 218748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, en:the arabs = bm:araberne = nn:arabarane < 1378327797 597891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric := dk:araberne = sv:arabarna , MAYBE < 1378327810 334636 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sv:araberna < 1378327820 397308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378327830 742789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :su:? < 1378327897 413282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and while we're at it, do we have a local Iceland representant? < 1378327923 7731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i know of. < 1378327943 730177 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know what the Sundanese word is < 1378327964 925679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1378327969 800515 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sundanese? < 1378327987 185209 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck sundance < 1378327987 566185 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sundance Resort is a ski resort located 13 miles northeast of Provo, Utah on Mount Timpanogos in Utah's Wasatch Range. < 1378327997 565599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ↑ < 1378328004 81045 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1378328009 4664 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do know that sundanese is one of those languages that calls itself bahasa/basa something < 1378328017 418319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also re approximants: rødgrød med fløde < 1378328045 345785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the canonical approximant shibboleth. < 1378328049 524307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378328106 221654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also swedish has the sje-sound. < 1378328118 620331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the curvy-taily h. < 1378328176 58013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have [œ̃], which even metropolitan French has lost. < 1378328184 174331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many norwegian dialects, including mine, have the "thick" l (it's also in some swedish.) < 1378328197 981937 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thick l, as in Klingon? < 1378328211 69457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both norwegian and swedish are full of retroflexes. < 1378328234 998161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am not familiar with the klingon pronunciation. < 1378328242 665422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote klingon < 1378328244 209172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :923) as long as you're in company where no-one knows both, you can always say either "that's just like welsh ll" or "that's just like klingon tlh" < 1378328273 52393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think norwegian thick l is close to either of them. < 1378328281 555925 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the thick l? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_lateral_approximant < 1378328289 361674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a retroflex lateral flap, or something like that. < 1378328397 809529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does «lll... llllll... *choke* ghlllll...»
< 1378328404 258586 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378328421 319605 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_flap apparently it is < 1378328440 308152 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds very un-/ɭ/-like... < 1378328463 949876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwegian_phonology#Consonants lists both your and the flap and says they're allophones. < 1378328471 680130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yours < 1378328479 584976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1378328481 672153 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd consider the retroflex flap the thick one < 1378328491 325967 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one I linked is just an l I think < 1378328539 753637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the one you linked is the one you'd expect from -rl- sandhi in a dialect which has retroflexes but _not_ the genuine flap. < 1378328601 564230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yeah, it should be according to the text, but the sample didn't sound very 'rl'y < 1378328601 746188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i think i use it instead of the flap in some positions, like "forlag". < 1378328614 718971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems Québec French and Japanese are the only (at least semi-major) languages which have unvoiced vowels. < 1378328717 773787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are conal. < 1378328768 465957 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are also completely insane. < 1378328792 751893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :editting those quotes by hand reveals a *lot* of information on y'all. < 1378328822 632088 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is revealed about i, bike < 1378328867 196049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeh... I recall reformatting your quotes earlier today. vaguely. < 1378328892 263329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are Bike, I guess. also, I nobody should touch your eyes again. last time was scary. < 1378328903 19397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/, I n/, n/ < 1378328915 818001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your complete disregard of english grammar < 1378328918 794222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan < 1378328919 974216 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1378328939 525332 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it revealed that i should do my vhdl assignment < 1378328954 927073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: disregard vhdl, acquire insanity. < 1378328991 625238 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was already reading about auditory hallucinations earlier!! < 1378329001 816567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said that < 1378329044 991160 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hallucinations < 1378329046 626767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378329050 38391 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote auditory < 1378329051 508582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378329061 645098 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hearing things < 1378329063 228843 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378329077 249762 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems we have nothing on this topic < 1378329093 314156 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you hallucinated it? < 1378329102 530488 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not... i wasn't reading them /here/ < 1378329140 699728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if it was hallucinated you didn't really read at all, anywhere < 1378329307 907957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "You are just imagining this wisdom entry." >wisdom/hallucination < 1378329311 874024 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378329371 247748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said auditory < 1378329375 365872 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh. < 1378329384 807489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the wisdom *is* auditory. < 1378329400 340297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when boily gets finished with it, anyway. < 1378329533 278857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just went through elliott's quotes. the pdf is updated. that was one hardcore reformatting session. < 1378329540 554418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :auditory wisdom will have fun with `? szoup < 1378329552 715013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :igen. < 1378329557 589664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION szmackzs olsner with a wooden laddle.
< 1378329571 662231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck igen < 1378329571 961547 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378329599 891417 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: igen! igen? jag missade första gången isåfall < 1378329620 357243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt swedish-hungarian puns < 1378329630 702153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378329649 125303 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: t'as pas un jeu de mots poche avec du hongrois à travers qui traine dans le coin, par hasard? < 1378329694 75930 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about words for traversing a train of coins? < 1378329710 16584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i recommend using something with "harmadik" < 1378329719 403609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck harmadik < 1378329719 792796 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378329745 524008 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I missed the hungarian part of that pun < 1378329833 263457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: «jeu de mots»: pun. «poche»: sl. of bad quality. «à travers»: sl. through, mixed in. «traine»: to be left about. «coin»: corner, random place, spot. < 1378329843 364358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: igen, hogy ezt tetted. < 1378329851 815063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hogy < 1378329853 583052 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) `translatefromto hu en Hogy hogy hogy ami kemeny How hard is that < 1378329876 901488 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the szoup quote was harder to find than I expected because it fails to even mention the hungarian word for soup < 1378329903 527270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ...because that is the one word i replaced XD... < 1378329965 481152 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 NICK :Ngevd < 1378329992 233637 :Ngevd!~nathan@92.30.187.55 NICK :Taneb < 1378330041 898003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: La banane est un fruit nocturne. < 1378330044 654663 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378330076 876794 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? banana < 1378330078 703164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :banana? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378330079 24154 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378330079 169408 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           o/`¯º < 1378330161 434420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you de-voiced me < 1378330179 59801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems hungarian now only wants two hogy in that sentence < 1378330220 777219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am uncertain about the hogy in my answer above, too. < 1378330257 161737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the joke, back then, was that hogy is a grammatical word with several different meanings. < 1378330279 784830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, part of it, anyway. < 1378330287 623206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hogy hogy hogy hogy" gives me "how to make" < 1378330295 290242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but any more than that is just "that that that that that..." < 1378330318 368348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got "how to make it" < 1378330329 591702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistical translation is pretty funny... Google used to translate Latin "quid pro quo" as "What happens in Vegas" < 1378330359 44808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, the capitalization was different < 1378330379 80476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh that almost makes some kind of sense < 1378330528 865739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A harmadik ember is apparently the correct translation of a certain film title. < 1378330582 976469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9EHarmadik_ember%E2%80%9D-%C3%A9rv < 1378330609 91591 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/WWII.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/WWI-re.png < 1378330627 230906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird how one-sided the world wars both look < 1378330636 197557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1378330643 715875 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the powers < 1378330658 750640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378330677 670981 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is burma labeled as axis but not france? < 1378330732 362079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oversight, i guess < 1378330748 225953 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with ethiopia, etc etc. < 1378330863 947929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's thailand, not burma. < 1378330886 190266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ethiopia was invaded by italy. < 1378330893 161171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as was libya. < 1378330894 248193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the blue dots are countries that got invaded and occupied by the Axis during the war? < 1378330897 263285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks less one-sided then < 1378330907 271935 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it, do i seriously not still have southeast asia straight ;_; < 1378330911 295564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there much action in South America, or the southern half of Africa? < 1378330924 487304 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, that's burma < 1378330931 415030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Madagascar got invaded by the British < 1378330931 827221 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no oerjan's right < 1378330935 267730 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is < 1378330943 694965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they both look the same except mirrored! < 1378330945 597322 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :burma just has a dot < 1378330950 78753 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378330950 275807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1378330958 411835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_LZ_104#Africa_flight < 1378330962 975863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WW I naturally) < 1378330981 125949 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this thing counts manchuria as axis too, so i don't get the difference between "axis" and "occupied" < 1378330995 79418 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you could say ethiopia and manchuria were invaded before the war, but that's kinda arbitrary < 1378331003 609872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manchuria was — right < 1378331021 403843 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not particularly, where else do you draw the line < 1378331042 529121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's more about where you draw the line of when the war started, no? < 1378331048 22947 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right that's what i meant < 1378331056 436880 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people count the sino-japanese war as part of wwii, and so on < 1378331088 241943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can claim you were confused by bangladesh not being a separate country < 1378331109 314350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never actually realised burma and bangladesh shared a border < 1378331124 726589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, i really should have this straight by now, it's pathetic. < 1378331131 837826 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: burma is very mean to bangladeshi migrants. < 1378331160 296096 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also people who are de facto burmese but they say are bangladeshi sooooo < 1378331208 630797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, _someone_ has to do the job of breaking the illusion that buddhists are more peaceful than muslims. < 1378331212 689019 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bangladesh is bad enough that people want to leave for burma doesn't really surprise me, but it's still a grim juxtaposition < 1378331234 212957 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By 1941 it became illegal, among other things, to ridicule those who attempted to promote national customs" sounds enforceable < 1378331261 172411 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378331275 124206 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's... one way to think about it :V < 1378331338 927592 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: bangladesh turns back refugees from arakan too. it's kind of shitty all around! < 1378331379 443801 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe my problem is that arakan looks kind of like thailand < 1378331379 924997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't surprise me either (even before i found my way to the wp page on the rohingya) < 1378331438 136707 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that little spiny outpost in the lower right, i mean, except thailand's is more curvy < 1378331451 855773 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess burma looks like that too. < 1378331454 115535 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. pathetic < 1378331968 224807 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378332294 386064 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378332561 280444 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378332621 957490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Test *test* test < 1378332623 292073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test testing test < 1378332627 322053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ^ < 1378332651 826660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it only worked the first time because you hadn't made the testing file yet < 1378332733 187385 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378332778 622603 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378332793 187457 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378332847 54158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : hello, future oerjan <-- hi < 1378332884 16037 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1378332889 161125 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how was the future? < 1378332893 871523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1378332894 869494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1378332899 889644 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378332905 754967 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can call it the past now then < 1378332907 976972 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel let down. < 1378332930 916170 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so i take it you've been lobbied against then < 1378332935 930454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i haven't got to your real abuse yet, will probably punish you afterwards < 1378332949 16306 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378332963 400443 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1378332986 905268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i haven't got to it yet < 1378332987 747831 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the empire of bike happened < 1378332991 449393 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ws glorious < 1378333064 909899 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so you're still the future oerjan < 1378333074 982230 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not in the past yet < 1378333142 909560 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378333164 211043 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378333395 685068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: looks like it was cut short < 1378333421 420703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, elliott gave me op back for some reason. < 1378333426 132779 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the empire's spirit was dead by then. < 1378333443 174962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ghost of empires past < 1378333451 166565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION weeps for his power
< 1378333469 954382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ok now i'm imagining a christmas carol with scrooge replaced by hitler. < 1378333492 158682 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok then... < 1378333551 568989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE OriginalOldMan | rainbow < 1378333554 522331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Or10IgInAlOlDmAn: We02LcOmE 02To tHe 14iNt04ErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC Pr14OgRaMmInG 10LaNgUaGe dEs06IgN 11AnD DePlOy02MeNt! FoR03 14MoRe11 10iNfOr13MaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp07:11//eSoLa13NgS.Or06G/WiKi/mAi07N_PaGe. (fOr07 tH04e oThEr kInD Of e02SoT13eR09iCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC O14n 10iRc.dAl.nE11t.03) < 1378333581 643660 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1378333602 636228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a particularly light choice of colors today < 1378333629 416573 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run relcome OriginalOldMan | rainbow < 1378333632 485265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1113OriginalOl14dMa06n05: Welcome to the inte12rnational hub for12 esote14ric prog05ramming language design10 and depl07oyment! For m13ore infor08ma08ti02on, 10check ou04t our wi08ki: http:11/09/e07solangs.or06g/w09iki/Main_Page.13 (For08 the other11 k10in08d06 of 10esote14rica, t03ry 05#esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1378333641 531594 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378333648 286824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/relcome < 1378333649 667635 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | rainbow < 1378333650 548064 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was hoping for something more disastrous < 1378333694 711394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: rainbow is designed to potentially fill up the line with color chars, so repeating it should have little effect < 1378333713 192654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1378333746 588431 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits
< 1378333747 262844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Testing | rainbow | rainbow #This might work < 1378333749 429206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0504102213014808T121207e0210011502s0913111407t03i061412n07030802g1411110008 < 1378333752 550176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378333762 940656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's the kind of thing I was hoping to see. < 1378333780 66051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Testing" is too short for rainbow to fill up the line with colors < 1378333797 151043 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? Bike | rainbow | rainbow < 1378333800 41588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​090408100076B041101i03004606k020409e131107 006803i14s005409 0902f111090r0122o090128m091063 05009602L03u104213x10e03051109m10140072b03009411o050708u0909r14g0611105112.0304 < 1378333806 506008 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1378333813 714631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it doesn't do redundant color changes in sequence < 1378333823 431289 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ? Bike | rainbow | rainbow | rainbow | rainbow | rainbow < 1378333826 697707 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​080503080510202000950057B120209i1407k1006001489e1205000698 i041411405110s06 10004026061003f0502021414r1013o05006028m1409 1112081033L0611040713u10740069xe03040308050406m11b02071111o080200103410u1308121207r0512g120906012084080308.10240600230 < 1378333827 877175 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike > 1378333827 910076 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378333828 384029 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378333829 425327 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a power operation in bash < 1378333835 125207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened < 1378333841 358532 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is here < 1378333845 499236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $((2**10)) < 1378333846 746524 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024 < 1378333854 344879 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.187.55 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378333855 203835 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean composition power. < 1378333862 539036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it won't get longer once it has filled up the line length (350 bytes) with color codes + original text < 1378333869 253704 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can't go voicing people like that < 1378333872 494489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1378333875 221769 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it scares the children < 1378333882 226148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have children here?!?!? fuck < 1378333899 783592 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is elliott a children? < 1378333906 555816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anymore, by law < 1378333917 961534 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody flirt with elliott at once < 1378333930 501306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1378333941 752626 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Me love you long time. < 1378333949 874533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great flirting, 9.5 / 10 < 1378333978 927976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I may not be the best judge of such things) < 1378333981 470906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you're a piece of shit and i hate you < 1378333985 770315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, rate me on my negging < 1378333991 724473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't think so, it doesn't seem particularly useful < 1378334003 870055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH: I think you're supposed to be more subtle than that < 1378334006 75821 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's useful for rerererererainbowing! < 1378334025 817331 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure PUAs understand the concept of "subtlety" < 1378334032 495094 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the concept of uh. anything < 1378334040 258451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like “Me, I like a girl with a couple extra pounds on her” ? < 1378334040 848601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PUA? < 1378334047 795308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with that PH < 1378334057 149610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not talk about PUA though < 1378334059 703171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just depressing < 1378334062 477716 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1378334067 687156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was relying on elliott to get the reference < 1378334069 950142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he has failed me < 1378334070 95462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with my voice, i make it law < 1378334070 948641 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I agree with kmc < 1378334076 935076 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :Bike > 1378334076 947761 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378334080 196277 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Proto-Uto-Aztecan language < 1378334084 307194 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh wow!! < 1378334104 134289 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose if I'm going to flirt with elliott I should determine how androphilic he is. < 1378334117 975631 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you like the cock? < 1378334137 822981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i happen to know elliott likes coq < 1378334252 896114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so that's what it means. < 1378334279 153518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. it means cock < 1378334292 599754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Bike < 1378334294 180839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Bike. Thike. < 1378334368 428426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have a hunch elliott doesn't like this subject, so let's talk about prepromorphisms or something. < 1378334384 833634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: have you tried possing instead < 1378334388 912232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a note to use the word "androphile" more often
< 1378334389 57426 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it's p. good < 1378334399 283178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm hungry -> < 1378334427 598480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke was that it was an excerpt from a lyttle lytton entry, hth) < 1378334450 276144 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stuffs Phantom_Hoover into a locker
< 1378334478 677315 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378334536 612227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend was trying to think of single straight guys he knows in New York but I think by "straight" he meant "interested in women" and by "single" he meant "available" < 1378334553 279176 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378334584 290826 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: So, *not* excluding bi guys then. < 1378334589 394330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378334710 306466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that tshirt "I'm not gay but my boyfriend is" < 1378334749 307140 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378334772 929292 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how five years ago I hadn't heard of any one being bi but today nearly a third of my friends say they are < 1378334779 345090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378334794 414705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :different friends or the same ones as five years ago? < 1378334804 715006 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :entranced by your organs no doubt < 1378334819 450680 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Oh baby, gimme some more of that liver. < 1378334825 71899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1378334833 530568 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting I might have accessed a different social circle recently? < 1378334858 783343 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: shower your lymph all over me < 1378334887 41292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: social circles do tend to shift over time, yeah < 1378334905 363034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just wondering if the trend is people you already knew telling you they're bi, or you meeting new people, or both < 1378334923 453591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you truly the same person you were five years ago < 1378334927 237470 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that's the real question < 1378334950 220710 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc I think the trend is that more people are bi today than five years ago < 1378334971 917934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of my friends have at least /some/ interest in both directions... whether or not to self-identify as bi based on that is pretty personal and arbitrary < 1378334980 941032 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe my friends are (in average) older than my friends were (in average) five years ago, and thus have more sexual experience < 1378334985 30348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo self-identification considered harmful < 1378334985 231187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1378335010 65288 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I had never thought that age might just be it < 1378335035 882564 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a feeling it was somewhat more fashionable to be bi today than it was before < 1378335048 221717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a loaded way to put it < 1378335059 676164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe, yeah < 1378335077 101080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another way to put it would be that there's less pressure to hide it now < 1378335092 474731 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's not exactly saying the same thing < 1378335122 862899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1378335128 180667 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once heard someone say that there was effectively less pressure, and that saying it had anything to do with being fashionable was highly homophobic < 1378335146 141323 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I still get the feeling that there's just as much negativity as there used to be... < 1378335158 910681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really depends on the context < 1378335161 657158 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's also more resistance Fiora < 1378335162 108962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who you interact with < 1378335174 628158 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bisexual people still "get all the fun", are "sex fiends", are "just trying to look good for the guys", or just plain don't exist < 1378335202 540156 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's that tshirt "I'm not gay but my boyfriend is" < 1378335229 31033 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Look good for the guys" ohhh my < 1378335234 164027 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you say "just trying to look good for the guys" are you talking about bi people in general or about "lesbians pretending to be somewhat available to guys"? < 1378335235 654221 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first response to this was 'ah i get it, the wearer is female' then i realised why that was stuped < 1378335238 311117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stupid < 1378335246 787802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I'm not sure it's inherently homophobic to say there's an element of fashion to it, but as soon as you start telling people that their self-identification X is wrong and they're just doing it for reason Y, that's pretty dangerous ground < 1378335256 236327 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the stereotype that bisexual women are actually straight girls trying to look "hot" < 1378335258 271188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: about bi women being described as being straight women pretending to be bi because men think it's hot < 1378335265 341395 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhh okay < 1378335265 486489 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Probably more hetero women pretending to be somewhat available to girls, because "lesbians are hawt" < 1378335274 982651 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes right < 1378335278 327059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, some of them are, though < 1378335283 645441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more about applying that stereotype to all bisexual people < 1378335294 482399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you don't have to be that sexually attracted to someone to have fun making out with them < 1378335295 136234 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still very common and generally results in bi women getting flak from both straight /and/ gay women < 1378335297 957 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well I just observed that all girl friends I had who said they were bi happened to have a boyfriend < 1378335330 673082 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess statistically for bi girls there are more boyfriends available than girlfriends < 1378335338 47575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not, like, fraudulant to make out with someone you don't want to fuck < 1378335353 370762 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plz turn in makeout license < 1378335360 843377 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, the dating pool for bi people is weighted as heck. < 1378335361 440947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: sexual interest is different from relationship interest, too < 1378335370 174993 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1378335380 850036 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you suggesting they might be cheating on their boyfriend? < 1378335381 808131 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: also, if they have a girlfriend but say they're bi, they will probably attract quite a bit more unwanted interest < 1378335410 416396 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because men take "I am bi and have a girlfriend" as code for "I want a man" < 1378335435 190140 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378335437 839144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it's not cheating if he's OK with it < 1378335455 350563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: but it's also fine to identify as sexually interested in women, without currently having your hand in someone's vagina < 1378335473 419159 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also okay to call yourself bisexual even if you've /never had sex/ < 1378335475 369964 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually I have always wondered how it was possible that so many gay friends of mine had boyfriends - I mean my gay friend in couple / gay friend not in couple is higher than my straight male friend in couple / straight male friend ratio < 1378335493 81345 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though statistically it should be easier for a straight guy to find a girlfriend < 1378335545 290242 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I beg to differ, a lot of guys are not ok when they don't currently have their hand or other body part in someone's vagina < 1378335550 433860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378335555 5831 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snerk* < 1378335570 291539 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's more to it than just dating pool size though. < 1378335679 152547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your friends who are gay don't feel the need to advertise this fact to you unless they're dating a guy < 1378335701 761582 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Have I mentioned I'm gay today?" :) < 1378335701 962766 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378335719 264173 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah I felt very weird when I learned my cousin was gay < 1378335744 184949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: imo what's with the "men do X" thing < 1378335772 897039 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: because I was so surprised not to know that already < 1378335863 292684 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378335937 609794 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I hadn't thought about that < 1378336026 945755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the use of the term "cheating" to describe any non-monogamous situation really pisses me off... cheating = lying, breaking rules, etc. < 1378336043 910155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everyone involved is aware of what's happening and is okay with it, /that's not cheating/ < 1378336044 266968 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1378336047 743122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this happens more often than you might expect < 1378336059 984814 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: it's also okay to call yourself bisexual even if you've /never had sex/ <<< I realize I would never call myself anything anyway so that wouldn't apply < 1378336075 548953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course as a society we make an exception for "single" men, who are allowed to sleep around as much as they want without it being "cheating" < 1378336082 787444 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a term for "uninterested in sex" FWIW. :P < 1378336101 851414 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as far as I know I have exactly one friend who's into that < 1378336123 638291 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either that or other friends want to keep that a secret) < 1378336149 531834 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is also some sort of non-monogamous...
< 1378336172 457397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have remarkably few personal secrets... < 1378336180 58864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keeping secrets is too much effort < 1378336184 270551 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kinda bad at 'em. < 1378336187 56591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus secretly (!) I like to brag < 1378336196 865969 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also note that "non-monogamous" implies one man and several women, not the other way around < 1378336208 110676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, it definitely does not < 1378336215 730122 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1378336225 706339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a traditional meaning of the word "polygamy" yeah < 1378336229 723153 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just break what I knew about vocabulary? :( < 1378336229 869249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the only meaning, either < 1378336233 602434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would avoid that word for that reason < 1378336236 947534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and for others) < 1378336261 706472 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-gamy is the a suffix for "marriage"... < 1378336267 308707 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was in highschool we had a Nigerian teacher who came to talk about the differences between France and Niger < 1378336284 420085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :polygyny, Koen_ < 1378336286 228415 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he began by introducing himself and ended by answering our questions < 1378336290 27087 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just happens that people think multiple women when discussing non-monogamous things. < 1378336290 295433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of polygyny < 1378336293 643061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(another reason to not keep secrets: I'm in a position due to various privileges and life circumstances to say "fuck 'em" to the people who would hate me for these things, rather than being afraid of them) < 1378336299 691477 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's introduction included "I'm monogamous" < 1378336312 252513 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one of the question was "is having several wives legal in Niger?" < 1378336320 171744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes "polygyny" and "polyandry" are specific anthropological terms < 1378336336 973139 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to which the teacher answered by explaining why that was okay and why the student shouldn't be shocked < 1378336343 338336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"graph minor isomorphic to K_5" less used in the literature < 1378336349 949310 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the student asked, "is it legal for a woman to have several husbands in Niger?" < 1378336356 556859 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the teacher was very shocked < 1378336365 782092 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HOW WOULD THAT MAKE ANY SENSE" < 1378336381 867596 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did somebody say "gangbang"? < 1378336387 473141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you, just now < 1378336392 75470 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1378336408 209269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have double standards about practically *everything* involving sex and relationships < 1378336412 272403 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi why hast thou forsaken us < 1378336412 876730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of remarkable < 1378336452 678701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the double standards are clearly in the interests of the patriarchy < 1378336455 757944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes they are just baffling < 1378336566 146647 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sex in general is best described as "complicated". < 1378336578 137368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :award for most fatuous statement goes to < 1378336605 189129 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378336619 616761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never hope to understand it < 1378336688 954267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah... but I would much rather have the complications that come from people actually feeling strongly about each other, over the complications that come from following arbitrary rules that never made any sense to me or the people i'm with < 1378336689 790991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pikhq just has too short nick < 1378336700 130838 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me these are fairly different in kind < 1378336750 915098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will probably not understand why monogamy is such a compelling default to most of the population... but the same goes for theism, and lots of other things < 1378336770 52762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course people are plenty bad at actually following the rules of monogamy, or of your theistic religion of choice < 1378336883 295393 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on "the population". historically (institutionalized) polygyny has been more common than monogamy < 1378336889 46355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1378336892 155138 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :historically and worldwide. w/e. < 1378336910 789138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean among people I'm generally pretty close to culturally < 1378336989 432790 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i just felt like mentioning that. < 1378337001 438460 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it moves you to cultural norms rather than "human norms". < 1378337023 555612 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe at least to me the appeal comes from the idea of like, having a person you can cling to and rely on and know they'll be there, and you'll be there for them, and that you'll always be their priority? < 1378337073 401525 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'll never understand theism" is a pretty internet atheisty statement to me tbh < 1378337131 672145 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little easy to shrug off monogamy when you feel like you can get through all of life's challenges on your own, but not everyone feels that way... < 1378337134 30349 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll never understand why people have war over religions < 1378337143 704877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't, generally. < 1378337153 860139 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any more than the pig war was about a pig. < 1378337161 790536 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth. < 1378337209 687299 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also holy christ circuit design programs are complicated, fucking hell < 1378337223 232735 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in ones for drawing circuits? < 1378337230 689246 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :verilog < 1378337238 146220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1378337261 627362 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the program that i had to download as a five GB tarball, have i mentioned that here < 1378337272 205985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verilog sounds really cool to me but i've never really gotten into it < 1378337345 990983 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, when did you stop being arc btw < 1378337351 869812 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i'm doing the super cool circuit design of "connecting a switch to a light" < 1378337362 328624 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378337401 622941 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was Arc_Koen because there was that guy on freenode who owned the Koen nick < 1378337403 718920 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If using the DEPP interface uncomment lines 25-28" hoping this had to do with johnny < 1378337417 174906 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've recently decided I was the real Koen and didn't needed the Arc_ < 1378337432 501710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is koen cognate with koan < 1378337434 258069 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378337443 74111 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's koan? < 1378337451 456825 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the zen thing, one assumes < 1378337473 846517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the sound of one word cognating < 1378337532 996624 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably find an emacs mode and ditch this thing < 1378337643 770802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, good point... I don't feel like I can get through life's challenges alone, and I depend on a wonderful committed partner all the time < 1378337668 75790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would also be totally unfair of me to expect her and her alone to satisfy all of my physical and emotional needs < 1378337674 2444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or vice versa) < 1378337679 882596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I think the stress of doing so would destroy our relationship < 1378337708 259044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm very glad that neither of us feels any pressure for that to be the case < 1378337711 588272 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess sex makes it compliated -_- < 1378337723 235252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's complicated either way, but yeah < 1378337735 115006 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the whole physical needs thing right < 1378337741 140408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure but it's not only about that < 1378337742 937158 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he said "emotional needs" < 1378337746 324951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378337766 214714 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel as tht i shouldnt be seeing be in this irc in this time of the night < 1378337772 603179 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*here < 1378337780 453307 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can deal w/it < 1378337781 992987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think monogamy entails exclusivity over 'emotional needs' really < 1378337800 117191 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... I was thinking the same < 1378337801 868464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on who you ask < 1378337807 296556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what exactly you mean < 1378337808 136898 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess ... yeah < 1378337816 371233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"emotional cheating" is definitely a thing people talk about < 1378337823 368223 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook cyber-flirting < 1378337823 599568 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«If using the DEPP interface uncomment lines 25-28» have so little idea of what i'm doing < 1378337827 754147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wrong paste < 1378337830 732457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter ultra-sexing < 1378337835 545649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... emotional cheating? < 1378337838 769508 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't understand that either, so assume i don't know anything about anything. < 1378337840 421182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you better uncomment it < 1378337844 110261 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a fairly narrow use of the term < 1378337885 701671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway most people would say that marriage is about more than sex, so I would assume they think monogamy is about more than sexual exclusivity too? < 1378337898 286453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the whole thing makes me go a bit :psyduck: < 1378337927 59797 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's about guaranteeing that both people will always view the other as their primary care and responsibility, emotionally and otherwise...? < 1378337941 362558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, socially-defined constructs like that based around sex confuse me < 1378338064 211071 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with two files. build. end with forty files and six subdirectories. < 1378338067 582100 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i think they probably mean you're meant to be emotionally invested in your partner, not rely on them exclusively < 1378338082 574080 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, are the files archives < 1378338098 152988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way I don't mean to imply that arrangements with only two people are bad or wrong (for anyone, or for myself) < 1378338101 403389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1378338111 593870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what most of them are, in fact. < 1378338131 957487 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, a .xrpt. < 1378338133 290866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have such arrangements without having a rigid external rule that this is the only acceptable way to do anything ever < 1378338153 133968 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's "Xml RePorT" < 1378338154 982222 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me for interupting your conversetion, but i found the medical expretise which consults bones and muscles, its called "orthopedics" in english. you can find more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthopedic_surgery; we have a more accurate name in hebrew though < 1378338166 862083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BONES < 1378338169 650297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CASH FOR BONES < 1378338175 921198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUSCLES FOR BONES < 1378338217 564217 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is the pinout as csv < 1378338219 369278 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1378338234 678914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain: why are you telling us this < 1378338239 462622 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"T8,sw,IOB,IO_L31N_GCLK30_D15_2,INPUT,LVCMOS25*,2,,,,NONE,,UNLOCATED,NO,NONE," < 1378338241 974444 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solain, you could've just asked us... < 1378338370 273408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Solain is back < 1378338371 291947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya < 1378338391 640120 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378338396 902746 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : [19:37:10] twitter ultra-sexing < 1378338397 633792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378338400 261490 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378338408 438132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: totally not a thing I just made up < 1378338439 647920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if we're talking about cheating, I'm pretty sure twitter ultra-sexing applies < 1378338447 729546 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$2.77 × 10^15 + $3.99 shipping" yay amazon < 1378338454 906336 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, basic cheating. Not emotional cheating. < 1378338457 770631 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378338463 190655 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :relationship advice: does following voidsexts constitute cheating < 1378338472 818178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :voidsexts? < 1378338479 333018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you pixelate out your junk before you twitpic it to a congressman < 1378338493 324933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :public void sex(Relationship *arg) < 1378338494 372194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric should totally write a relationship advice column < 1378338515 895309 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: https://twitter.com/voidsexts < 1378338519 440839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language uses 'public' that way and also has *-pointers? checkmate < 1378338528 547364 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Failing advice, I gave you some pointers... < 1378338548 248693 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1378338566 85100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Huh. I don't think it counts, no < 1378338640 4477 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:45:19] [19:34:28] but it would also be totally unfair of me to expect her and her alone to satisfy all of my physical and emotional needs < 1378338640 150621 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:45:19] [19:34:33] (or vice versa) < 1378338640 296520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:45:19] [19:34:39] in fact I think the stress of doing so would destroy our relationship < 1378338649 432325 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1378338665 726332 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378338666 118751 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those insta messeges scared me < 1378338672 503244 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you need to paste three lines just to "++" in the future < 1378338682 832891 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a cautionary tail, though < 1378338690 385720 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bike: There's more coming up) < 1378338696 825336 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to provide context and all < 1378338699 132086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1378338704 621781 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. Cautionary tail of sorts < 1378338716 976774 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kind of relationship I build with my SO < 1378338720 92389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tale" < 1378338725 915792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378338728 639998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378338731 678491 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow < 1378338734 953800 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm tired) < 1378338746 229092 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(me2) < 1378338760 210006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Your SO doesn't have to fill every emotional need you have" < 1378338764 406594 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked, to a point < 1378338782 351038 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378338790 458993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked well, no pressure and all, until we got to the last few months < 1378338810 970064 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I realized that since I wasn't expecting her to fill any particular need, I found ways to fill them elsewhere < 1378338818 706752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which put her in a weird position in my mind < 1378338841 865126 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO stands for significant other right? < 1378338845 389999 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1378338861 681023 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first thought of "soulmate" but that acronym is already taken I reckon < 1378338876 939236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SO weird to see that term which i remember from old usenet < 1378338906 13243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that by trying not to put pressure on my SO to fill my needs, I just bypassed her for most of them < 1378338912 744483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1378338931 326054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I ended up in a situation where she wasn't my go-to person for any non-physical need < 1378338963 305885 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which lead to a not-so-nice situation where I was wondering what was special between us two < 1378338966 865136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url quotes < 1378338968 688618 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/quotes < 1378338979 42826 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since most of what I needed, I could find elsewhere - and did < 1378338996 843295 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your SO(2) group < 1378339001 662090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: It worked well, no pressure and all, until we got to the last few months <<< I read that as "we had a countdown-to-separation already in place and we reacting badly to it going under a few months < 1378339006 989299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. The realization was recent (weeks, really), so I'm still recovering < 1378339015 616726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl =P < 1378339018 31600 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, no < 1378339020 617176 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're engaged =P < 1378339074 130785 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so that's actually a countdown-to-marriage! < 1378339082 65885 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was close < 1378339088 304984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, vaguely, yeah < 1378339093 578002 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :t minus one million seconds < 1378339094 657487 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's no date yet, so not really < 1378339114 634876 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's eleven days < 1378339116 974773 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. We're still recovering and trying to get back close to one another < 1378339120 5423 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats on being married in eleven days < 1378339124 483300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1378339126 107856 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks ^^ < 1378339202 887758 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. TL;DR: Wanting your SO to fill *some* of your emotional needs is healthier for me than not caring *who* fills them. IANALD, YMMV. < 1378339204 928943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all < 1378339207 117989 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may resume < 1378339210 407361 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do journals without websites even exist < 1378339318 113031 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go..." < 1378339321 969078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378339324 268455 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378339328 696465 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smooth < 1378339331 581778 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing happened mmmkay < 1378339349 894061 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh < 1378339357 650049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, I can just /clear my backlog < 1378339358 928897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice < 1378339449 183017 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night everybody, goodbye and happy rosh hashana for everybody whose jewish < 1378339458 377116 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 PART :#esoteric < 1378339488 301366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: thank you for sharing your cautionary tale < 1378339498 793874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks about it more
< 1378339504 215764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is "LD" in "IANALD" < 1378339520 532628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love Doctor < 1378339527 131704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378339530 188775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378339532 429067 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lethal dose < 1378339535 183974 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will smith < 1378339540 8704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not a doctor when it comes to love < 1378339542 56049 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no that's WS < 1378339583 57464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when you are close enough to someone you develop needs that are specific to them < 1378339593 905689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I don't just want a hug, I want a hug /from her/ because we have all this context that makes it more meaningful < 1378339605 234103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this could be true of multiple people in different ways, too < 1378339642 275675 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want a hug /from multiple people/? < 1378339646 607096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1378339679 437557 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all just kind of encircle him < 1378339689 341698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until he dies of heatstroke < 1378339700 609032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they rear a new queen in his place < 1378339842 289882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they only did that to wasps. < 1378339877 753004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, they do it to queens if they stop being reproductively fit and/or anger the proletariat < 1378339884 464335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1378339931 485040 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the monarchy would be way more entertaining if we did that in the uk imo < 1378339981 876898 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sterilize everybody in the UK but the queen, to be more like bees < 1378339992 177646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but they'd want to do it to charles, not the queen < 1378340014 557897 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: then how do you appoint a new queen? < 1378340050 924282 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :set it up so that a few women randomly become reproductive again when the queens' pheremones stop suppressing them, and then have a cage match to determine which becomes the new queen. < 1378340378 517397 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378340492 943775 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378340517 336166 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378340664 772504 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, model society < 1378340680 864053 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1378340690 162166 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smash the state + replace it with better honeycombing < 1378340836 491489 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cage match is dangerous < 1378340855 554623 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if they kill or otherwise mutilate each other < 1378340877 17854 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you understand. < 1378340877 188191 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378340909 191475 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378340915 734812 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378340994 939127 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378341256 4328 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1378341486 123934 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm willing to be enlightened with your explanations and please do feel free to use as much drawings and photos as you want < 1378341516 14024 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1378341605 974481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is turning into some niche fetish thing isn't it < 1378341637 10432 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378341638 952370 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :When a young virgin queen emerges from a queen cell, she will generally seek out virgin queen rivals and attempt to kill them. Virgin queens will quickly find and kill (by stinging) any other emerged virgin queen (or be dispatched themselves), as well as any unemerged queens. Queen cells that are opened on the side indicate that a virgin queen was likely killed by a rival virgin queen. When a colony remains in swarm mode after the prime swarm ... < 1378341644 967360 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... has left, the workers may prevent virgins from fighting and one or several virgins may go with after-swarms. Other virgins may stay behind with the remnant of the hive. As many as 21 virgin queens have been counted in a single large swarm. < 1378341648 965146 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1378341679 706809 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not for new queens in the event of a queen dying, o'course < 1378341689 90818 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1378341691 603472 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1378341699 599723 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf < 1378341720 975354 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kindof trying to find stuff that goes more in detail on how out of order cpus are made < 1378341728 615758 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are all incredibly vague < 1378341745 416746 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that in any modern microarchitecture design textbook < 1378341794 773827 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, for the general stuff they explain it < 1378341799 732874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not really vague, just printed in the wrong order < 1378341817 8508 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the register rename thing < 1378341817 974611 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, oerjan. < 1378341818 747128 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1378341824 879208 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reorder buffer < 1378341828 463167 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need register renaming for ooe < 1378341841 223680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had this idea that that was intel being weird as usual < 1378341846 944711 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a good idea to learn asm by writing C programs, compiling them, then using otool on the binary? < 1378341858 925899 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@sabis.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378341868 306270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the worst idea < 1378341870 310795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :best idea? < 1378341878 828486 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend said he was automating his architecture homework by writing a "C to MIPS translator" < 1378341880 22015 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik ooe is normally essentially hardware SSA < 1378341880 351945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C compilers will use a different subset of asm than you would probably want to write by hand < 1378341885 130251 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good chuckle < 1378341894 516277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially on x86 < 1378341911 347112 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378341913 662304 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you have a stream of instructions coming in < 1378341924 370962 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you turn that into a stream of microops < 1378341966 618493 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a ring buffer of microops and assign them consecutively < 1378341967 915977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are writing x86 asm by hand you can mostly pretend it's a nice simple RISC-ish architecture... but compilers will exercise a lot of the stranger corners for performance < 1378341984 400809 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the retirement logic retires the other end of the queue < 1378341992 923337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although there are also a lot of weird instructions that *seem* useful but are actually too slow) < 1378342010 127415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if compilers don't produce them then chip designers don't optimize them) < 1378342035 775357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler outputs only bcd instructions < 1378342055 386516 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have a ring buffer of microops already you can simply assign results to a parallel ring buffer of result registers < 1378342066 241041 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bang, you have register renaming < 1378342113 853173 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be possible to make an OOE cpu without renaming but I'm not sure it makes any sense < 1378342153 793285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the course materials for MIT's 6.823 would be useful < 1378342155 92645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are online < 1378342175 375159 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at any moment you have a queue of instructions that load values from other location in the queue < 1378342186 973519 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with a flag to say that the result is valid < 1378342217 45583 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a bunch of execution units < 1378342248 868060 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow on each cycle it figures out which instruction to assign to each unit < 1378342256 401392 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with low propagation delay < 1378342283 385924 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember it simply assigns in order of availability (?) < 1378342303 492791 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, if instruction X can use p0, p1, or p5, it has pretty much equal probability of hitting any of them if they're all free. < 1378342387 203346 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it combs through all the non-ready instructions in the queue, checks all of them for having all ready operands, then picks the first 3 ones that are doable? < 1378342488 208558 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a lot of computation to do in essentially very low latency gate networks? < 1378342546 829961 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I think I remember reading in one place that in like a recent CPU, the "clock bottleneck" (like, the longest latency between two steps of the pipeline?) came from something like "select the first 4 executable instructions from this queue of 40" < 1378342570 887794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the dependencies and stuff are already done, it just has to comb through and mux the first 4? < 1378342597 396336 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378342697 89950 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they might have had some crazy heuristic for that < 1378342764 767209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1378342793 53626 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kindof surprised that they don't have worse clock bottlenecks from all the wide renamed register files and reorder buffers and crazy associativity < 1378342820 428016 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the gazillion of ports involved < 1378342914 135926 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you have, what < 1378342932 361972 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 alus + 2 address calculation units? < 1378342939 393903 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each one with two read ports < 1378342984 503866 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can pull values from any of the wide file of renamed instructions (essentially one register for every instruction in the reorder queue?) < 1378342987 103850 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378343037 894060 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like 12 read ports and 6 write ports on a 40+ register file < 1378343967 286429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are high end CPUs still made with standard cells or do they optimize certain gates at the physical level for lower delay? < 1378344045 938121 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378344069 354503 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I knew < 1378344086 140379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to break out your electron microscope < 1378344092 656455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hydroflouric acid < 1378344140 720350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378344143 666153 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they'd concentrate on the previously mentioned "clock bottlenecks" < 1378344173 254316 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378344281 808725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378344309 278022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be so difficult to optimize for speed, area, power/heat, and yield all at once < 1378344464 682086 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist 9/4 < 1378344466 522542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist 9/4: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378344569 56699 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the major secret to Intel's CPU design is "when in doubt throw more money at the problem" < 1378344613 144657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can produce surprisingly poor results < 1378344640 136386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :money mainly gets used to hire people and the people need to know what the hell they're doing < 1378344646 990768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it, "poor" results < 1378344717 708810 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: See Pentium 4. < 1378344754 233832 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny we had a discussion about go and chess robots earlier and a friend told me the only reason why chess robots were so performant was because so much money had been thrown into it < 1378344784 630505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: -_- < 1378344797 414242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a funny way of talking about things < 1378344805 486266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "money" is nearly a synonym for "effort" < 1378344815 541834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why is this thing so good" "because people worked on making it good, DUH" < 1378344865 101222 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well I was about to tell him why I thought go computers were so bad compared to chess computers < 1378344875 605010 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said "nah it's just the money" < 1378344880 251987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers are good at go now, though http://blog.printf.net/articles/2012/02/23/computers-are-very-good-at-the-game-of-go/ < 1378344889 91731 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1378344902 360251 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've started being better than me only very recently < 1378344927 299361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise the crap about how wanting money is evil... it's how you get the money, and what you use it for, that can be good or evil < 1378344928 398210 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's stil very very very very very very far from professional players < 1378344945 668014 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how are they at Arimaa? < 1378344946 876826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff about how Real Programmers or Real Artists shouldn't be motivated by money... that's actually incredibly selfish < 1378344980 676283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no idea. don't think enough people care about Arimaa < 1378344995 54456 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah :( < 1378345114 292916 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378345117 645341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we just assume that people with money will waste it on bougie lifestyle status symbols rather than meaningful experiences, helping friends/family, or helping strangers < 1378345125 920670 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can read a commented version of one of its wins against Tromp at GoGameGuru, or you could even play against it yourself on KGS." < 1378345170 854606 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll do the former. I suck badly enough at Go/I'm enough of a Go newbie that I'd have a limited amount of understanding how its moves are tradionally considered bad < 1378345228 15890 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gogameguru doesn't seem to be loading < 1378345336 661201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is that our tromp < 1378345389 465777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trompe le monde < 1378345465 413333 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, for the record, using monte-carlo in a go program was first done 3km away from my home < 1378345477 717408 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the go program in question became the best go program for a while < 1378345481 406373 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1378345496 797573 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then all go programs started using monte carlo aaaaaaand we never heard of that go program again since < 1378345532 626983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378345650 167419 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378346206 957058 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378346733 690314 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378346736 967847 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378346768 320717 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378349748 811775 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378349813 165749 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378350186 263692 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1378350305 870411 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378350674 401661 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378350752 809744 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378350764 560918 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does OpenSUSE not configure sound card automatically? < 1378350795 961502 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's mean and cruel. < 1378350819 604144 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :contempt < 1378350997 342951 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also need to configure KDE to use the (correctly configured) sound card < 1378351002 671716 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bonks head on wall
< 1378352047 680755 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sajdfasjfd I better not start feeling nostalgia for Freespire < 1378352330 86036 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Linux XP is discontinued < 1378352332 421860 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evil distro < 1378352453 569411 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Despite frequent calls for a 64-bit edition, the developers have only started considering such possibility in late 2011, arguing that their 32-bit edition works equally well on 64-bit computer systems. " < 1378352457 766057 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[about PCLinuxOS] < 1378352462 793866 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378352765 470535 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone recomments that a newbie try Linux Mint, they may be confused as to which one to download < 1378352772 480657 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not heard of MATE and Cinnamon before now < 1378353016 928340 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey Amarok's available for Windows < 1378353050 17293 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Amarok: Comes from the KDE Linux desktop. It is a great media manager with many features. It looks nice but beyond looks it is also very smart." < 1378353058 987666 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"since it is based on GTK, the installation pack is much larger than necessary (over 90Mb)" < 1378353061 91158 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh.... < 1378353178 738291 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTKDE < 1378353597 29337 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378353598 759556 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378354298 754030 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378355253 829725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Spotted car w/ VA license plate NOPSLD." < 1378356400 846727 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378356593 749968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378356757 887363 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378356854 760914 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378356862 630394 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378357766 723487 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378358242 461515 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378358242 718296 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378358269 183097 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378358290 181523 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378358301 212759 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378358471 861518 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378358554 644567 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378358984 179282 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378359076 298219 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378359169 70736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/ < 1378359300 344358 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :decimal gray code <-- ?????? < 1378359382 585313 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«18-10-1960 is the date the article “Socialism, Inflation, and the Thrifty Householder” from Ludwig von Mises was published» lol < 1378359464 605015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A gray code with decimal digits, presumably? < 1378359477 938252 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, but why would you ever. < 1378359486 801853 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a modern computer, anyway < 1378359559 356760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH: "To get Firefox working in XMonad I think you need some coalgebras" < 1378359602 199601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's xterm, not firefox < 1378359623 988474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is terminal coalgebras) < 1378359739 776924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :groan < 1378359801 365351 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: remember how Mu is initial and Nu is terminal? good timez < 1378359833 468299 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378359858 961554 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378359900 791624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378359922 489780 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: would you come to an edwardk talk in sf < 1378359940 830528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, come to think of it, would mozilla maybe have a space for it < 1378360029 136294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1378360044 938458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want to see a decimal gray code < 1378360131 646977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that work? < 1378360174 760095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there are lots of them < 1378360215 370655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Wikipedia has an example/explanation. < 1378360229 259752 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_code#n-ary_Gray_code < 1378360231 649887 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1378360292 981403 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 0...8, 9, 19, 10, 11, ...etc < 1378360442 227006 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if a boustrephedon would be more convenient. 19, 18, 17, ... 11, 10, 20, 21, 21, ... < 1378360498 854007 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378360524 685517 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378360722 457584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378360753 334076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378360789 621494 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378360792 481560 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378360812 72352 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378361573 577523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "-- 20, 21, 21, ..." I guess that's some sort of gray code with extra redundancy thing. < 1378361836 168245 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :grayer code < 1378361838 753240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whiter shade of gray < 1378362213 534054 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4&feature=youtu.be < 1378364142 565541 :^v!Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378364153 222102 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378364515 681901 :madbr!boulam@69.165.212.148 QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1378365637 600460 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378365765 894095 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378365955 850884 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378367378 252292 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378367445 495815 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess who's an idiot < 1378367542 708197 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: it's me < 1378368228 394200 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378369579 26799 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378369789 756435 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378372921 439687 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems you've been all kinds of interesting while I was sleeping < 1378373092 993194 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : are high end CPUs still made with standard cells? <-- I think that was almost answered by the Intel guy's AMA < 1378373165 766670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc most of the stuff was done automatically but with their own library of secret sauce, then manual layout for the really important bits < 1378374588 990379 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378374650 351275 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378374696 946419 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378374710 267715 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378375931 477229 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC1353D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378375951 287199 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378378011 217996 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378378021 494316 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378378030 909448 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378378644 33109 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378378972 578524 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC1353D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART :#esoteric < 1378379071 279414 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378379374 572165 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378379428 367633 :ulalul!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378379745 868446 :ulalul!~menot@101.255.24.142 NICK :[ulalul] < 1378380633 690444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have blood on my hands < 1378380635 940869 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck acne < 1378380674 709065 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no matter what you do about it, there will always remain... < 1378380678 330326 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blood IN your hands < 1378380767 479928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1378381065 730716 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4c21:3b4c:125:f6a3 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378381147 166475 :[ulalul]!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT : < 1378382337 858285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I scrub and I scrub and there's still blood in the hands? < 1378383053 249387 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378383187 923790 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378383189 792684 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378383409 49784 :Solain!5744f12a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.68.241.42 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378383413 51461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good what-is-a-shipping-wall morning! < 1378383622 104586 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378383797 79713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Fiora'ed the wisdom. that document is beginning to look not quite too bad :D < 1378383874 651406 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean :D < 1378383939 618410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Does page 2 say "blank page" in light grey in the middle, or is that just my PDF viewer? < 1378383972 12342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: http://youtu.be/qLrnkK2YEcE < 1378383976 880488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it is your viewer. < 1378383996 556907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thought so. < 1378384026 91279 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1378384047 737226 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378384118 553036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the typeface used to render Chinese in “ramen” doesn't look right. do any one of you have any suggestion? < 1378384202 827415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stroke weights are all random. 麺 is abnormally thin, 縫 is too heavy, and 樹 is glitched. < 1378385893 893263 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378387157 215441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah... the soulagement of having chosen the right font. why must tex fonts be oh so complex... < 1378387308 773040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, a shipping wall is a wall displaying ships < 1378387355 405510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankhellob. < 1378387366 972797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was a thanks, a hello, and a Taneb all-in-one.) < 1378387401 293308 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004195 < 1378387447 212749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that kind of ship. I gues I just never had seen that much dedication to shipping beforehand. < 1378387505 62166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well. nanoha and fate notwithstanding.) < 1378389419 363530 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378389444 739019 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378389657 868945 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378390076 501693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378390081 687911 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378390796 795634 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378391152 334163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :upgrade to a cabal 1.18 system: complete! < 1378391166 348283 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 1 + 2 < 1378391167 55389 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1378391171 904995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1378391468 123297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 1 + pi < 1378391468 750539 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.141592653589793 < 1378391480 259817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval e^(pi*i) < 1378391480 815365 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `e'Not in scope: `i' < 1378391484 691430 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pffff < 1378391531 974297 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp pi < 1378391532 554333 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23.140692632779267 < 1378391546 757544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp (pi * (0 :+ 1)) < 1378391547 364636 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-1.0) :+ 1.2246467991473532e-16 < 1378391566 57884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there you are. -1 + random floating point part. < 1378391579 24254 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray. < 1378391593 96573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not what I wanted though =P < 1378391596 310726 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378391597 454748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? < 1378391603 242112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp 1 < 1378391603 878526 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.718281828459045 < 1378391607 405571 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1378391610 284666 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it is < 1378391618 371941 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval sqrt(-1) < 1378391618 965799 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NaN < 1378391621 671535 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1378391626 335796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the fun part < 1378391633 598613 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378391662 355125 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval sqrt(-1) :: Complex < 1378391662 952956 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Expecting one more argument to `Data.Complex.Complex' < 1378391670 571791 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval sqrt(-1) :: Complex Float < 1378391671 178008 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-0.0) :+ 1.0 < 1378391714 323317 :Bike__!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378391737 906997 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1378391742 914109 :Bike__!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 NICK :Bike < 1378391926 593021 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378392750 447832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1378392771 797472 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp(pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex Float)) < 1378392772 530994 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-1.0) :+ (-8.742278e-8) < 1378392796 670786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp $ pi * sqrt -1 :: Complex Float < 1378392797 226574 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Couldn't match expected type `Data.Complex.Complex GHC.Types.Float' < 1378392797 372031 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `a0 -> a0' < 1378392809 150759 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (exp $ pi * sqrt -1) :: Complex Float < 1378392809 782533 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Couldn't match expected type `Data.Complex.Complex GHC.Types.Float' < 1378392809 927679 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `a0 -> a0' < 1378392817 287981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1378392817 433129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to be -1, really < 1378392821 216167 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp(pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex Float)) + 1 < 1378392821 727851 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.0 :+ (-8.742278e-8) < 1378392825 144653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378392829 295299 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :e-8 < 1378392836 267185 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's just floating dust, really < 1378392838 370836 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool! < 1378392850 447055 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't see that < 1378393043 988860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp(pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex Double)) + 1 < 1378393044 715571 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.0 :+ 1.2246467991473532e-16 < 1378393046 810783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even closer.) < 1378393124 563145 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval exp (pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex CReal)) < 1378393125 49643 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: type constructor or class `CReal' < 1378393125 195178 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you meant `Real' (imported from Prelude) < 1378393129 885627 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no. < 1378393134 630692 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex CReal)) < 1378393136 3468 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-1.0) :+ 0.0 < 1378393164 514018 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval (exp(pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex Float)) + 1) - (exp(pi * (sqrt(-1) :: Complex Float)) + 1) < 1378393165 63861 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.0 :+ 0.0 < 1378393168 190909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1378393195 83602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either it collapses the equation to x - x = 0, or the floating point errors are consistent ^^ < 1378393202 198047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how come I don't have Creal. that shouldn't be so. < 1378393217 967452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't not have it? < 1378393235 541072 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats are deterministic, eys < 1378393246 770347 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1378393304 455374 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378393311 788997 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the function takes arguments, declare them; if it takes no arguments, use void." - K&R2 I see code like this too, why is this? Is it explained later in K&R2, or is that all that it's going to say? (Talking about use of void when no args). < 1378393336 295741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck eys < 1378393336 607496 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eys is a village in the municipality of Gulpen-Wittem, Limburg, the Netherlands. < 1378393349 92585 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think "foo ()" just means it's a function without saying anything about the args, or something < 1378393350 123401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 1 :: CReal < 1378393350 811477 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0 < 1378393404 714615 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378393419 485869 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, yeah. If you follow that standard, then you can talk about doStuff() without having to specify that it's actually doStuff(Stuff *s1, Stuff *s2) < 1378393437 864014 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And without implying that doStuff() takes to arguments < 1378393450 683144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is useful when documenting < 1378393453 679091 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Was that directed towards me? < 1378393456 967769 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1378393464 122915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry =P < 1378393565 255599 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I do documentation, I tend to have sentences like "This method relies on the argument's doStuff() method, which it uses to determine so-and-so." < 1378393627 272079 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lsiwe < 1378393630 263217 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07lsiwe: 07Welcome to the08 i07nternati04onal h05ub for es13oteric progr09ammin06g langua07ge07 11design and deployment!03 For more 06in07formation, c02heck out our wiki:08 http02:/06/esol07angs.org08/wiki/12Ma05in02_Page. (For the ot08her kind of12 esoterica, try #es07ot06eric 10on irc.dal.net.) < 1378393631 662802 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, if doStuff() is actually doStuff(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5), I don't want to write that out every time, so I use doStuff(). Someone who doesn't know the function, though, might think this means doStuff() doesn't take any arguments. < 1378393635 987080 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: How come people use it for main(), for example? Just standards? < 1378393653 701682 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the doStuff(void) when it does not take arguments makes it explicit < 1378393681 223729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, I always use main with args =P < 1378393690 141452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I don't use them afterwards < 1378393786 415111 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Ah, I see people do it for non-documentation reasons, as well. < 1378393806 132802 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) { /* … */ } for example < 1378393815 821522 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be. I mostly do Java anyway, and I don't think doStuff(void) is valid there =P < 1378393892 451723 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100425213029AA7n6Bv < 1378393897 500400 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be only useful for documentation. < 1378393907 909398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378393962 232210 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378394039 882362 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378394152 832955 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually compile with gcc flags that make it impossible not to use a function's argument < 1378394198 426880 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I don't need main's arguments, I use main(void) < 1378394368 709707 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378394428 936048 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1378394489 753292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello. < 1378394508 356759 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378394512 690474 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helloily < 1378394669 631669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Nisstyre < 1378394671 438073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378395282 295919 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378395297 845135 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378395433 262392 :lsiwe!65702704@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.39.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378395466 953270 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378395568 40179 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378395626 741622 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378395819 790268 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Nice. What flags make that happen? < 1378395866 129270 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: well my school's correction program usually compiles with -Wall -Wextra -Werror so so do I < 1378395901 591700 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, thanks =) < 1378395903 354604 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the three means "consider warnings as errors", another is "have some extra severe warnings that you usually don't have", and I don't know what is the third but something alkie < 1378395912 290760 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alike < 1378395998 579918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck alkie < 1378395998 841714 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alkie definition: slang alcoholic. < 1378396016 904129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378396340 294657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck consider phlebas < 1378396340 640868 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider Phlebas, first published in 1987, is a space opera novel by Scottish writer Iain M. Banks. < 1378396408 604112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an odd title < 1378396432 335065 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378396697 248836 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378396711 825742 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378396848 294702 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yeah so -Wall adds A LOT of warnings, included about stuff that is legal but dubious, like "you used = instead of == in a condition, please add parentheses or something to insist on the fact that = is assignment"; -Wextra also adds extra warnings, but I think they're more about stuff where the code isn't logic, like if you're testing if an unsigned value is positive, or discarding the result of an expression that doesn't have any < 1378396848 464187 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :effects; and finally -Werror turns all warnings into errors so the compilation will fail at the slightest warning < 1378396884 594065 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378396888 395208 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however gcc's man doesn't clear state whether the warning about unused arguments is caused by -Wall or -Wextra; in fact it seems to imply it's caused by having both flags < 1378396899 165593 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I will test with only one of the two flags now < 1378397041 146979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think -Wextra implies -Wall... < 1378397078 872273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the title is a T. S. Eliot quote (I've never read the book but intend to at some point) < 1378397088 366156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that matter, I don't think I've ever read the poem it's a quote from in full. < 1378397111 611150 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things fall apart? < 1378397155 514082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm... confused < 1378397169 842665 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm asking what you're talking about since i missed it. < 1378397201 542591 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that was yeats < 1378397204 419402 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol oops. < 1378397204 564645 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the title of the book Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks < 1378397206 113173 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378397225 772057 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things fall apart is named after a line from a poem that i thought was eliot for some reason. oopsie! < 1378397234 690453 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378397329 930913 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378397469 903053 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the man doesn"t say anything about -Wall to be include by -Wextra < 1378397546 524022 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: right I was, I kinda assumed that was what was happening but I was worried that maybe I was the uncultured one so I didn't say anything specific < 1378397565 223522 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I didn't actually know that it wasn't an Eliot quote, I had to google to check < 1378397572 826595 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm literally an incomplete person without wikipedia < 1378397627 817989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION too
< 1378398011 89845 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Cool cats compile with -Wall -Wextra -Werror -ansi -pedantic < 1378398062 280856 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard of them < 1378398122 201776 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a british school? < 1378398337 383841 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1378398345 346838 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool Cats Polytechnic. < 1378398387 673304 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is a student there. < 1378398846 640584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck look to windward < 1378398846 980651 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look to Windward is a science fiction novel by Scottish writer Iain M. Banks, first published in 2000. < 1378398872 953259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sorta-sequel, same poem.) < 1378398918 332114 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378399953 311809 :sdf93!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378399954 820738 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400047 638110 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so what can you say about cool cats? < 1378400345 138333 :sdf93!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400367 340729 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378400488 392441 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400510 565465 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378400632 21739 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400651 416704 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378400772 5154 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400795 879232 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378400918 59578 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378400945 168672 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378401009 114967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from a mexican lunch, elliott is related to everything, and who is sdf9? didn't we see a (~menot@...) yesterday? < 1378401026 917616 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdf9 is someone about to get a +b for join/quit spamming < 1378401031 426377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes they've used about five nicks or something so far :P < 1378401071 528745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. should I expect ion being licked, or are they another person? < 1378401110 989296 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're in, um, indonesia, looks like < 1378401177 717444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you backtraced him? < 1378401234 198188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IIITTTSSS strikes again... < 1378401257 593853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Indonesian Intimate Ion Terrible Tongue Therapy Subliminal Slimy Squad) < 1378401302 374120 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I do not know why it is happening. :p < 1378401330 960827 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, was the ion-licker indonesian? < 1378401343 635478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdf9: that's okay, we only do the death penalty here if your connection breaks 10 times < 1378401346 656338 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you still have a chance! < 1378401368 385813 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my gosh :O < 1378401382 601411 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: So you're saying that Bike is undead by now? < 1378401459 847118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure Bike is allergic to canadian brains, right? < 1378401486 933926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION winks to Roujo, and whisper “Play along! We need to stay grouped against the hordes!”
< 1378401557 506191 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure e is *wink wink nudge nudge* < 1378401663 26993 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378401702 704848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wields a 150m zombie-proof certified shovel of +3 organic holy aura (locally produced, for greenhouse gas reduction!)
< 1378402051 444636 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378402080 720753 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378402099 279860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't bode well for them... < 1378402136 326136 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Clock is Ticking < 1378402300 639936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378402455 108331 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378402481 720978 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378402541 723970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdf9 is taking the lead over Bike wrt. post-redeundead zombiness. < 1378402601 906215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on his broadcaster headset.
< 1378402616 127233 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a neck to neck race, boily. Bike will have to work double-time to get back in the lead. < 1378402736 898325 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378402769 307148 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378402797 263991 :sdf9!~menot@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378402819 235934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh! the gap is widening with this surprise move from sdf9! with only a few laps remaining, we can say that Bike has no chance left! back to you, Roujo. < 1378402904 408020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, boily. I'm on the edge of my seat right now, since there's no telling when the officials will call for a penatly. elliott has an history of... interesting calls in his line of duty, so predicting the outcome is a daunting task. < 1378402953 602812 :sdf9!~menot@118.99.127.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378402981 708137 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378403007 468414 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378403017 638252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It ain't over 'till it's over! both contestants are showing their work, althought sdf9's technique is really shining now! Bike doesn't admit defeat easily, and who knows? elliott's sudden decisions can still bring a lot of surprises! < 1378403049 802376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, what is that? an unknown contestant? can you tell us more about sebbu? over to you, Roujo. < 1378403134 241300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes, sebbu. 6'7", strong as steel. Tough contestant, although he'll have to show more than that token effort to take the crown. < 1378403186 749329 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378403233 929154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incredible! a fourth contender! I wouldn't like to get ahead of myself there, but I think this is the Match of the Century! < 1378403264 374169 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better than '84's Contest of Champions, boily& < 1378403265 660436 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378403451 879946 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378403455 35236 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378403544 303814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'84 was an incredible year, but I'm astonished by sdf9's performance here. but let's first ask ^v, our foreign liaison, how he feels about that race? < 1378403583 621049 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was not alive in 1984 < 1378403640 695803 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i dont participate in history class < 1378403665 175526 :sdf93!~menot@118.99.127.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378403666 740637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :laconic, but to the point. Roujo, the excitement is palpable here. just imagine the flood of emotions that are washing over those who can be close to the contestants and see them with their own eyes. < 1378403681 746879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, darn shame. Although come to think of it, I wasn't around in '84 either. Oooooh, and he's back! < 1378403712 994089 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would have to be like 50 c_c < 1378403725 597058 :sdf9!~menot@118.99.127.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378403731 9313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think I could get any closer to the edge of my seat, but it seems the sdf9 decided that the Planck Lenght just wasn't short enough! So much excitement! < 1378403732 183532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but under a different name! wasn't that move ruled unorthodox under last year's International Comittee General Assembly? because if so, that'd be very sad. the elegance... < 1378403746 679554 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :28* < 1378403770 345741 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then < 1378403776 556135 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mom was alive in 1984 < 1378403791 513275 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: who are you and why arent you on topic c_c < 1378403805 632967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's indeed unorthodox, boily, but very much legal. The worst that could happen is that it's judged unsportsmanly, but the officials seem to be turning a blind eye to such shows of agility and prouesse these days. < 1378403844 708836 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1378403876 190465 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of that made any sense, stop ^%$#ing english D: its bad enough < 1378403904 547775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdf9's race with Bike to the top of the d/c scoreboard, of course. Such an event, too, very exciting. < 1378403991 401348 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Roujo > 1378403991 424530 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378403993 42886 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :boily > 1378403993 64035 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378404006 195226 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1378404007 101717 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378404039 425858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems we're having some communication problems with our external correspondant. we'll have to temporarily suspend the feed over to ^v... < 1378404057 372914 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are raping english < 1378404069 912156 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that word is ban here < 1378404077 496313 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378404079 120930 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1378404096 623903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhh, I can talk better now. Broadcasting to the masses! The race seems to have come to a lull at the moment, with all contestants taking a temporary break. We'll be back after these commercials. < 1378404121 751759 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who exesively use unnecicary adjectives on EVERYTHING makes me really mad < 1378404128 76892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :q: what the fuck is going on < 1378404174 62721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: si la tendance se maintient, elliott won't be doing nothing soon. do you think he's acting on purpose in order to artificially increase the suspense? < 1378404208 629129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Probably. I don't believe in spontaneous voices, so they must have come from somewhere. < 1378404220 137074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, question from the audience. We go to boily for the answer! < 1378404327 348196 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear kmc, we don't know either. you'll have to wait for the next round! and for your support, you win a Commemorative Great Redisunconnection Race keychain, 2013 Edition! < 1378404408 565362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very nice prize, valued at 50 BTC and brought to you by the #esoteric bots. Thank you, bots. < 1378404416 831890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thots. < 1378404607 704673 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION parses
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ACTION segfualts
< 1378404646 749864 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that typo will cost ^v some points from the judges... What do you think, boily? < 1378404661 380576 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378404664 247260 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks #esoteric bots < 1378404665 244671 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, #esoteric bots. Thesoteric bots. < 1378404677 955820 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's actually good i guess. i expected it to break < 1378404697 796443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a... 7... a 6... and what? a three from the third panelist! nooodl, why so harsh a judgment? < 1378404698 290405 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think its a bot < 1378404716 20697 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo I beg to differ < 1378404717 645455 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I beg to differ < 1378404747 960923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo I concur. HackEgo is a bot. < 1378404748 277404 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concur. HackEgo is a bot. < 1378404761 521696 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^I AM A FUNGOT < 1378404773 941993 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1378404774 695945 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to have to give a 10 on the "turing test" category here though. (3 + 10)/2 still a nice score < 1378404816 450666 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Questionable reasoning, but solid answer. We now go to our resident race analyst, fungot. Fungot? < 1378404816 596059 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: and is one thing which you might want more? and some stuff in my youth. ( under establishment)? i maintain my curiousity. i really enjoyed such powers... now it's nick!userhost-limited to me, and ile not wish thee more < 1378404834 299590 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378404838 452904 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1378404840 372288 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378404841 696605 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiser words, boily. Wiser. Words. < 1378404858 766811 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :these bots < 1378404861 436840 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are getting < 1378404862 434188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, and Bike's back in the race! Nice timeout there, a little high, could be rounder, but still fantastic. < 1378404862 716109 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378404864 803980 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of hand < 1378404947 865965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simply in-cre-di-ble, I say. I knew that Bike wouldn't admit such a position. nice move there. I applaud his ingenuity. the execution wasn't perfect, as you kindly remarked, but considering what level of exhaustion he must be in, it is still quite impressive. < 1378404957 559011 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378404967 836146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome bike < 1378404975 532870 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a pun on welcome back) < 1378404981 316938 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: never fear! if someone in a conversation is acting like an idiot but it's not me you can assume it's me. it's one of many services i offer. < 1378404986 728507 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welqy < 1378405041 712287 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but it's not obvious who"*, not "it's not me", because it is me < 1378405098 383763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you drunk. < 1378405138 450285 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: elliott is finally active! what will be his next move? < 1378405146 123976 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, viewers, please direct any criticism on this race's reporting by using the `complaint command. Our house elves will examine and reply shortly. < 1378405153 663064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am SCIENCE < 1378405159 252759 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what was `complaints. Feel free to report that as well. < 1378405196 174115 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have no idea, but I can't wait. The competitors have been fiercly arguing about the legality of sbf9's nick change, and I'm hoping the issue will be resolved shortly. < 1378405265 232307 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it's actually sdf9, not sbf9. I smell a penalty. < 1378405313 836433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so many opportunities lost! what are the umpires doing?... wait!... is that?... yes, we got our feed back to ^v! < 1378405337 205667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: do you feel rules should be more strictly enforced? < 1378405375 261419 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378405376 802900 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :please < 1378405377 912873 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go < 1378405385 377710 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop pinging me or im going to leave < 1378405409 988037 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :StopPingingMeRou < 1378405426 511385 :StopPingingMeRou!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :StopItBoilyRoujo < 1378405479 368350 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We mean no harm. We live to report, that is all. No pings for you, then. < 1378405482 536509 :billion57!b8206ad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.32.106.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378405489 433013 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaint Pings seem to be too frequent < 1378405490 604175 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: complaint: not found < 1378405495 733028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints Pings seem to be too frequent < 1378405497 158717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378405558 198557 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/complaints bin/complain < 1378405561 43502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome billion57 < 1378405561 877220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378405564 54894 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04billion1257: Welcom11e to the int13ern06a06tional 04hub for 03esoteric programming lan04gu11ag11e09 design and deployment! For more inform08ation, ch10eck out02 our wiki: htt12p:/10/esolangs.org/wik05i/Main_Page. (For10 the ot04her12 04kind of esote13ri11ca, try #es05o11teri08c on irc.dal.net.) < 1378405755 251129 :billion57!b8206ad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.32.106.215 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378405831 300485 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378405994 804660 :sdf93!~menot@118.99.127.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378406115 947373 :sdf93!~menot@118.99.127.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378406175 49177 :StopItBoilyRoujo!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1378406179 212235 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1378406294 652467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And another point for sdf93! The count just keeps on couning, doesn't e. < 1378406407 914660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should build an out-of-order cpu one day < 1378406528 212838 :sdf93!~menot@118.99.127.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378406569 565545 :STOP_KICKING_ME!~menot@118.99.127.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378406594 481675 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP_KICKING_ME: Nobody's kicking you. You're doing this to yourself. < 1378406617 497562 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think about it. Look inside yourself. You will see: I speak only truth. < 1378406628 663851 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods sagely
< 1378406942 362514 :STOP_KICKING_ME!~menot@118.99.127.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378406983 495368 :IT_IS_NOT_ME_IT_!~menot@118.99.127.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378407011 157393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT_IS_NOT_ME_IT_: Sure it's you. You keep closing the connection. < 1378407015 822241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>STOP_KICKING_ME [~menot@118.99.127.142] has quit IRC: Remote host closed the connection < 1378407016 758866 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1378407025 993387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378407027 331672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378407035 405912 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good People Don't Close Connections Like That Mmmmkay? < 1378407040 980987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's what for? < 1378407045 331595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is going on < 1378407064 846605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (917) < 1378407066 605282 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (917): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1378407100 478316 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: IT_IS_NOT_ME_IT_ keeps d/c'ing, but says we're kicking him. < 1378407113 730779 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind the fact that nobody is op here. < 1378407124 178526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im op here < 1378407128 409430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT_IS_NOT_ME_IT_: would it help if I kicked you?? < 1378407130 971080 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1378407131 5982 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378407131 116231 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not right now =P < 1378407132 913041 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say when < 1378407134 330469 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh < 1378407198 724184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may be addicted to petty abuse of power ;_; < 1378407252 511990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i could've told you that < 1378407650 642122 :IT_IS_NOT_ME_IT_!~menot@118.99.127.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378407962 342427 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378408281 743318 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378408411 544882 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378408532 934823 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378408902 208597 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378409302 191495 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 QUIT : < 1378409372 950261 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378411122 867857 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :abuse of power is good. especially with chocolate milk. < 1378411258 765130 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC13AF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378411259 845083 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378411407 473144 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378411424 395887 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC13AF9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1378412492 360040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how's the tvtroping? < 1378412507 495733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(do we have dates associated with `quotes? that one seems very old) < 1378412678 668767 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg blame on the quotes file? < 1378412846 886426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn it, I upgraded my graphics drivers and now I can't use valgrind on this program I need to debug :( < 1378412894 208183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh. right. < 1378413029 507447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Glurk < 1378413030 859569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :687) * Phantom_Hoover moves 0.5 Phantom_Hoover into the Atlantic, and captures fizzie's upper body with 0.5 Phantom_Hoover. Glurk. < 1378413095 638178 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why, exactly, does Gregor not have voice < 1378413113 804385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sore throat? < 1378413172 813373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: < 1378413173 228025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ wc -l tvtropes.txt < 1378413173 373170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :61 tvtropes.txt < 1378413201 35708 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely tvtropes is a bit longer than that? < 1378413219 984923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a queue. < 1378413227 977498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(See the referred-to quote.) < 1378413235 659923 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tvtropes < 1378413237 682058 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :234) Phantom_Hoover: I have just one tvtropes page open in elinks, but my tvtropes.txt "queue" has 38 tvtropes.org URLs waiting for processing. < 1378413240 281572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs tvtropes\.txt < 1378413287 600633 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17188 < 1378413327 390750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably haven't updated that file for a year, though. < 1378413441 830878 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what < 1378413461 32462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't software engineering such a wonderful profession < 1378413535 447721 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/05/nsa-gchq-encryption-codes-security "SSL is dead" < 1378413825 132684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: your quotes are included in the PDF! < 1378414131 181189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm confused. Wasn't the PDF about wise things? < 1378414217 366637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you know, like, feature creep and all that. besides, reformatting quotes is fun! < 1378414221 286988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no, I am not insane.) < 1378414240 814243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1378414266 996875 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is glumgot a bot? < 1378414298 746766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so but I have no idea what it does < 1378414365 770391 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Philip Glass. one two three four five six ♪ faaaa faaaa faaaa faaa ♪ < 1378414736 118270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378414769 600636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats everyone (including ais523 in absentia) for not telling his /// quine had been reddited.
< 1378414772 801491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378414776 2654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -----### < 1378414803 898597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Huh, there's surprisingly many of them. < 1378414873 251990 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I still have to reformat the behemoths of augur and Bike's quotes, but yours was still substantial enough. < 1378414887 890651 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378414888 954914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ais523 has a reddited quine? where? where? < 1378414893 714668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs his reddit fix!
< 1378414899 303148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no _mine_ < 1378414912 721402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still. me want. < 1378414918 825001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ljhm9/this_is_one_pleasantlooking_and_completely_insane/ < 1378415041 596180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i guess not to be hypocritical, i should mention this is currently top of proggit http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ls0bc/brainfuck_interpreter_in_brainfuck/ < 1378415167 899527 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how did you even make that quine help < 1378415211 857576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i modified the coding method from the BCT interpreter < 1378415216 625669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :github has bf syntax hiliting. I am scared. < 1378415267 282945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which itself was modified from the slightly more readable loops in the exampes above. < 1378415338 514506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I feel like the rest of the world is doing more esolang work than #esoteric < 1378415357 933811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, we do have a wiki about esolangs. I honestly forgot about it... >_>'... < 1378415491 905234 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378415508 331071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: >_> < 1378415791 369322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: ///\\ is a quoting prefix, if you remove that you will find a copy of the surrounding program inside. the rest then makes two copies of that (one inside the other), and modifies the quoting prefix appropriately in each copy. < 1378415869 389030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty standard quine on a higher level. < 1378416006 629681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh it's because the new graphics driver is using a different malloc < 1378416007 420409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1378416020 207901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we had a discussion here once where i helped someone make a similar quine without the /\ only obfuscation. < 1378416036 390075 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: obviously < 1378416192 249832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things starting with ///, like ///\/\/\ at the end, may be considered tokens/labels. < 1378416220 226911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that one is the label for where the final output form ends up, btw.) < 1378416645 690085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Fluttershy < 1378416647 152977 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :803) !rot13 Fluttershy Rainbow Dash Rarity Applejack Twilight Sparkle Pinkie Pie Syhggreful Envaobj Qnfu Enevgl Nccyrwnpx Gjvyvtug Fcnexyr Cvaxvr Cvr oh, they're all named after rot13'd welsh words < 1378416833 557002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddly, LaTeX hyphenated Nccyr-wnpx. < 1378416878 89903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: btw that unreadable label choice started from thinking about how to program using /\ only, and noticing that ///// would never show up naturally in a program, then whittling it down by restricting the coding style somewhat. (the BCT interpreter manages with just two slashes, but the quine needed three unless i added cruft that would have made it longer in total anyway.) < 1378416884 753407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now, with Gregor's quotes up to date, time to go enbooze myself. < 1378416887 188757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378416889 467114 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378417522 481262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: also btw i used haskell programs to put this mess together :) < 1378417544 557462 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw! < 1378417556 111311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /\ only style was a bit much to keep track of with vim :) < 1378417557 92274 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta go right now but i'll dissect the whole thing a bit later, maybe < 1378417631 944641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just vim < 1378417931 647066 :nooodl!~nooodl@38.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378418126 587652 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378418159 661599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sqrt(-1) :: Complex CReal < 1378418160 997623 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 :+ 1.0 < 1378418223 45499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (pi * (0 :+ 1)) :: Complex CReal < 1378418224 207844 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-1.0) :+ 0.0 < 1378418234 797725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ^ < 1378418276 87024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Bike i guess < 1378418335 830878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh duh you already did it < 1378418340 191216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so out of date
< 1378418840 300762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? eliot < 1378418842 212335 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliot? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378418842 499014 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1378418842 644203 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1378418864 301428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/el?iot? < 1378418866 136306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/el?iot?: No such file or directory < 1378418869 59768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378418874 307896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom/el*iot* < 1378418875 971536 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/el*iot*: No such file or directory < 1378418883 547990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/el*iot* < 1378418885 447228 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/elliot \ wisdom/elliott < 1378418890 8477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1378418892 108167 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one was ever called Elliot. < 1378419174 535868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaaaaaaaah and now it segfaults half the time, but never in Valgrind < 1378419176 671053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ion < 1378419178 554690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378419178 826420 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          | < 1378419178 993487 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        º¯`\o < 1378419274 929168 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378419499 571765 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fix the bug by making the program exec itself under valgrind < 1378419558 71104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1378419594 199341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's... a terrible idea < 1378419599 61717 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet so tempting < 1378419614 79753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, oerjan < 1378419618 526360 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You missed my reign < 1378419638 763822 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378419673 328584 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378419689 686078 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378419890 175894 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1378419902 602430 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, do we know someone named Wei Dai? thx < 1378419918 192427 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wei Dai: not in scope < 1378419941 787506 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Not sure what you're referring to. < 1378419941 932712 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378420103 474650 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378420250 775911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which c++filt < 1378420252 282676 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/c++filt < 1378420260 524345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo _ZNK13GrGLInterface5GLPtrIPFviPKjEEcvS4_Ev@plt | c++filt < 1378420261 948441 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ZNK13GrGLInterface5GLPtrIPFviPKjEEcvS4_Ev@plt | c++filt < 1378420266 46975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo _ZNK13GrGLInterface5GLPtrIPFviPKjEEcvS4_Ev@plt | c++filt < 1378420267 769656 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :GrGLInterface::GLPtr::operator void (*)(int, unsigned int const*)() const@plt < 1378420318 674759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a wonderful name for a function < 1378420754 974343 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very readable < 1378420771 365790 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378420798 669042 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378421061 671294 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378421350 291465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :status: writing debug helpers in C, injecting them with LD_PRELOAD, and calling them from gdb < 1378421377 80032 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1378421385 381777 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378421388 824395 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"can't you at least write them in Rust" < 1378421391 317188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1378421398 611431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but then I would have two problems < 1378421606 202515 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378421675 327296 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write debug helper in rust, inject them into rustc with ld_preload, call them from... uh... gdrust?? < 1378421773 567174 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnu derust? yeah, sure. < 1378422267 184107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a big jar of rust remover at my house < 1378422269 964730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should bring that in one day < 1378422337 91117 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in ocaml, && and || are lazy < 1378422354 925516 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thrhow rust remover all over the office < 1378422355 742856 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you define a function as let f = (||);; < 1378422359 223268 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS WHAT I THINK OF YOUR DAMN LANGUAGE < 1378422363 596798 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then f is not lazy < 1378422397 236762 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: this doesn't seem surprising? < 1378422407 911090 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but why is || lazy ? < 1378422412 701142 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be a function < 1378422418 10817 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions in ocaml are not lazy < 1378422425 51573 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :convenience? < 1378422433 442674 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also totally unrelatedly < 1378422444 360856 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw "just-in-time" in the context of pedagogy :| < 1378422448 628733 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378422466 115685 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just saw just-in-time in the context of compiling befunge programs < 1378422474 139710 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's just-in-time in the context of pedagogy? < 1378422488 777300 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I recommend an alternative, historically inspired ordering of population genetics topics, based on progressively increasing mathematical difficulty. This progression can facilitate just-in-time math instruction." < 1378422642 687883 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-206-196.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378423356 563606 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378423484 76917 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378423620 547479 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378423973 686261 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-206-196.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378425031 937470 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378425964 393179 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378426180 781406 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i seem to be obsessed with tcl again why oh why < 1378426238 432208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take some heroin to mask it < 1378426310 329094 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378426338 817182 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`olist 917 blah blah i'm sure someone olisted first < 1378426396 562763 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be becoming a zero-width space conservationist, I only used one < 1378426480 536870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Phantom_Hoover wtf happens here http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/130904.html < 1378426480 682067 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378426486 360074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure he'll know. < 1378426568 604762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look man i'm not that scottish < 1378426749 227937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Phantom_Hoover < 1378426751 215842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Michael Hoover is a true Scotsman and hatheist. < 1378426761 500913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says _true_ Scotsman, Phantom_Hoover < 1378426777 372571 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so glad that the nvidia binary OpenGL drivers for Linux make heavy use of self modifying code < 1378426791 598292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, this is getting intractible < 1378426871 703975 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ouch < 1378426879 581460 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they use it for? < 1378426880 866488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ I think && and || are just special cased in the language, as in most languages < 1378426881 11546 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378426885 293465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't even know... < 1378426916 932475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tales of flaco just keep getting taller. < 1378426937 553539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(||);; looks like an emoticon < 1378426982 74493 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, if I might ask where did this come up o_O < 1378427001 188157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the self modifying code? < 1378427014 821559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to figure out why my program is crashing in the opengl library < 1378427022 621988 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1378427036 269800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the answer turns out to be, calling OpenGL functions from a thread other than the one which set up OpenGL, which is a pretty normal answer really) < 1378427037 333590 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378427037 485284 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it just be like, a JIT of some sort, like a shader compiler? < 1378427041 952602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but the getting there is pretty weird) < 1378427051 545967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1378427091 878499 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`pbflist because Phantom_Hoover said to < 1378427100 55565 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not because of actual pbf < 1378427134 8361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :THWARTED AGAIN < 1378427139 85891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION twiddles moustache furiously
< 1378427143 213024 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378427167 845309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: someone should remove Sgeo's zero-width spaces before he hurts someone < 1378427175 509266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHA < 1378427227 218808 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric : `pbflist for accuracy < 1378427243 617863 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noöne likes a smartass Sgeo < 1378427952 641350 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378428185 151446 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378428615 848771 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378428619 345253 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1378428626 808602 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is still here < 1378428744 268061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you like to be separated from him *whistles innocently* < 1378428861 989334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why you're right, it _is_ addictive! < 1378429058 305436 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378429858 860733 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378430449 468236 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378430666 780558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378431576 945744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, Nthern is back on the wiki. < 1378431593 594288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other person who managed to write something in ///, as i recall :) < 1378431706 167637 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378431725 290627 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378431775 583125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Heh =P < 1378432419 777775 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378432424 399084 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378432495 395349 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :thzbai < 1378432497 762101 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1378432572 169793 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think that out of order execution is just a really elaborate prefetch scheme < 1378434346 257707 :Poolala!cf0692e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.146.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378434584 105261 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378434827 627839 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, is there any point to out of order execution, other than dealing with unoptimized code and trying to hide cache misses? < 1378434968 755564 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and having too few registers on x86) < 1378435341 818078 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words < 1378435362 815489 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had an optimal architecture and no cache misses, would out-of-order be useless? < 1378435508 992503 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are those reasonable assumptions, though < 1378435567 653419 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for optimal architecture IMHO even the stupid traditional 32 register MIPS would fit < 1378435593 533752 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it probably can't do 10 instructions per cycle, but no architecture can do that < 1378435677 925287 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, no cache misses/"unoptimized code" < 1378435706 984235 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cache misses obviously isn't very "real world" :3 < 1378435713 652183 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378435740 64430 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unoptimized code I'm not too sure about < 1378435743 353216 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean isn't there a longstanding debate or whatever about whether compilers should be expected to make good code versus the processor working things out < 1378435760 975179 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1378435777 993139 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect most compilers nowaday turn everything into SSA form < 1378435791 105675 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, heh. < 1378435804 564189 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can do at least a minimum amount of reordering < 1378435847 856020 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by "most compliers" I really mean msvc, llvm and gcc < 1378435906 420450 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect compilers to be able to do enough reordering to keep a 10-issue cpu busy < 1378435915 395394 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a 2 or 3 issue cpu sounds reasonable < 1378435937 886651 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378436129 952635 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, multiplications are high latency so they require a lot of shuffling, but usually they happen in stuff like dsp and gfx code that's usually math heavy anyways < 1378436266 314751 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :load/store/jump code is mostly low latency ops, though it has less math ops that you can shuffle around... then again if it has unavoidable dependency chains, it's going to have unavoidable dependency chains on a pentium 2 too < 1378436315 280250 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like file compression and string parsing < 1378437052 312721 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378437157 709155 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1378438337 124145 :Poolala!cf0692e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.6.146.230 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378438811 100120 :dan200!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1378439345 662780 :^v!~Pixel@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Killed (idoru (Spam is off topic on freenode.)) < 1378439507 85307 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TCL sometimes reminds me of functional reactive programming in... some ways < 1378439522 838771 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, has a nice ability to set something like that up < 1378439705 431242 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I should implement Deadfish in Tcl < 1378439714 801769 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an utterly crazy idea of how to implement it < 1378440228 50958 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ok, not C++ templates crazy < 1378440490 685681 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish... is not very well specified, is it. The page implies that something is a vagriety of the C implementation, then says to check against its math results to see that that thing is there < 1378440507 214495 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a joke < 1378440939 859578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the joke is that we follow the C implementation faithfully especially in those aspects which show its author was not very good at programming. < 1378440964 57799 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378440971 321623 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should look at the C impl. then < 1378441093 859186 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378441181 497601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i consider the python one within acceptable variation, it was written by the same author. < 1378441418 714707 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like my code in generally isn't generally much cleaner < 1378441462 890942 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378441479 729573 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm impressed at the apl implementation, but i feel it could probably be optimized < 1378441491 617496 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. Except I'd try to avoid recursive loops in non-TCOed languages < 1378441587 58115 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that -1 check is useless, isn't it. < 1378441603 854602 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unsigned int x; /* make a positive integer and call it x */" man, this is some good stuff. < 1378441604 296131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1378441612 917571 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're useless, sgeo < 1378441619 20380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1378441620 473510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike........ < 1378441631 286147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you doing the thing where you insult people < 1378441645 455711 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an unsigned int, does C convert the -1 to MAXINT or whatever -1 underflows into? < 1378441650 659821 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congenital condition. < 1378441668 465516 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congenial condition also < 1378441687 983807 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good scanf. < 1378441731 1487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well decrementing 0 gives 0, is what we've used. i assume we tried it out by running the C implementation at some point. < 1378441757 526031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1378441758 428255 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erk http://ideone.com/uQDIhD < 1378441759 803927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this code < 1378441789 568743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exact bitsize isn't among the things we keep slavishly to. (some of my esolang implementations use unary.) < 1378441849 720627 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't it die? Does scanf not stop and wait for input? < 1378441871 87628 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, maybe IdeOne is just broken < 1378441991 748229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: don't you give all input up front in IdeOne? < 1378442007 203225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, yes the interpreter has no eof checking. < 1378442017 864282 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378442034 104721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, it shouldn't print the 0 ... < 1378442062 656249 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I wanted to do was compile i d s and o into ;i; ;d; ;s; ;o; and eval it < 1378442064 500915 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1378442085 994743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my screen is full of > stuff which does not look promising. < 1378442121 938942 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: on IdeOne? Or actually compiling locally? < 1378442137 196907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on IdeOne. < 1378442154 815564 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like IdeoNe < 1378442250 472711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: locally on nvg it keeps prompting after any number of ^D (for eof) < 1378442258 811538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nvg server < 1378442264 79999 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvg server? < 1378442291 744806 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nordic Veteran Gamers < 1378442293 549030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the linux server i'm running irssi from, and email < 1378442303 33854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, NettVerksGruppa < 1378442321 2114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old university computer club. < 1378442362 879813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my webpage is there. and i already had deadfish downloaded. < 1378442858 670384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn it wasn't the correct version, it has a much weirder scanf, no wonder it behaved weirdly. < 1378442881 577130 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O ? < 1378442925 10921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my downloaded version has scanf("%c%*[^\n]%*1[\n]",&usrinput); < 1378442929 841213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that does. < 1378443023 818869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some attempt at reading only one command per line, i guess. (and it doesn't work :P) < 1378443089 915459 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378443646 540386 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378444502 303908 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378444587 839502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378445376 75908 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378445754 34655 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for those monads which are implementable even if bind can call its continuation at most 1 time? < 1378445763 39526 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For any particular continuation it's given < 1378445776 434966 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. Maybe, Identity, and not List < 1378446367 825224 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate Reddit sometimes http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/1ltegu/97_polled_online_want_under_god_removed_from/ < 1378446497 355527 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the fashionable thing is to hate reddit all the time < 1378448342 146466 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378448355 640283 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378448383 861389 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378449442 130092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: You know the whole (s,) -| (s ->) adjunction business and the way you get State from that? < 1378449481 413403 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: No. I’m not familiar with the -| symbol either, or with the word adjunction for that matter. :-P < 1378449501 322813 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in this context) < 1378449540 782614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in Haskell in particular, an adjunction is a relationship between two functors F and G, written F -| G, such that (F a -> b) ~~ (a -> G b) < 1378449599 790098 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any non-boring monads that meet the criterion I mentioned? < 1378449619 556183 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of bind only being able to use the callback it's given at most once? < 1378449660 222191 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It has lots of good properties, including that G . F is a monad and F . G is a comonad. < 1378449829 642443 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see. < 1378449873 899552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: It comes with two operations, eta :: a -> G (F a) and eps :: F (G a) -> a < 1378449875 134410 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give an example of an adjunction other than (s,) -| (s ->)? < 1378449892 226765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the laws fmap eps . eta = id, and eps . fmap eta = id < 1378449919 551478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Unfortunately it's hard in Haskell. :-( < 1378449939 140221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most interesting adjunctions involve functors that aren't endofunctors. < 1378449977 832608 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you give an example of one of those? < 1378450033 228606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, do you know abou the category Mon of monoids/monoid homomorphisms? < 1378450103 664397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Do you know about categories and functors in general?) < 1378450155 978152 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. I have Awodey’s book in my reading queue. < 1378450167 183271 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Spivak’s < 1378450190 783949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spivak? < 1378450203 412696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, _Category Theory for Scientists_? < 1378450233 313493 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1378450267 64628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. I don't know much about it. < 1378450283 184575 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, categories are so easy. < 1378450341 992764 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m sure i’ll love them. < 1378450382 305785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know Category in Haskell, right? It's just that. < 1378450411 400907 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378450495 396683 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And do you know what a functor is between categories? < 1378450647 675642 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It’s not immediately obvious to me how to make that happen with the functor familiar to me (which is, i guess, really an endofunctor). < 1378450711 478711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so a category is a thing with a bunch of arrows, which can be composed. < 1378450747 631262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :To figure out which arrows can be composed, you have the objects. You can only compose two arrows if their objects match. < 1378450769 392270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So each arrow has a "type".) < 1378450782 225902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are also identity arrows, one for each object. < 1378450840 91371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A functor F from C to D maps each arrow "a" in C to an arrow "F a" in D, such that F id = id, and F f . F g = F (f . g) < 1378450846 390700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally we write F as fmap in Haskell. < 1378450905 244211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also maps objects, but once you've specified how you're mapping the arrows, you can figure out the object mapping from that. < 1378450912 546392 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok < 1378450921 58185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm being confusing, maybe because it's midnight? < 1378450940 618531 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you see how this corresponds to the regular Haskell Functor? < 1378450964 176292 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the “endo” mean that C = D? < 1378450967 774294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1378451000 942658 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It maps Haskell arrows to Haskell arrows -- e.g. ord :: Char -> Int to fmap ord :: F Char -> F Int -- with the laws I mentioned above. < 1378451022 194361 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess i see it. What’s an example of C,D where C ≠ D? < 1378451024 852045 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also maps objects to objects, e.g. the type Char to the type F Char. < 1378451039 384753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should've had a bunch more examples of categories first. < 1378451123 518916 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'm spamming the channel... < 1378451151 777424 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn’t seem like there’s other discussion going on at the moment. < 1378451166 593012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that's because of me! < 1378451172 542669 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378451178 283571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so let's go back to categories and give some examples. < 1378451203 731090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And maybe a proper definition? Did we ever have one? < 1378451297 293168 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t think so, apart from “like Data.Category.Category” < 1378451330 251699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I think I meant Control.Category, although data-category's definition is generally much better. < 1378451389 412790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's start with something else. You know what a monoid is, right? A collection of things, which can be "multiplied" with each other, such that multiplication is associative and has an identity? < 1378451416 922997 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, i meant Control.Category.Category < 1378451430 230977 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378451455 317693 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. ℕ with + and 0, ℕ with * and 1, String with (++) and "", and so on. < 1378451465 620742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so you know how matrices work, too, right? < 1378451491 576980 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe not. I certainly don't.) < 1378451523 500337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is falling asleep.
< 1378451531 784920 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? sleep < 1378451534 819637 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less. I always have to look up things like how to calculate a determinant etc. < 1378451536 832019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep is for the weak. < 1378451547 461294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for the reminder, HackEgo < 1378451551 969882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But e.g. matrix multiplication? < 1378451556 584273 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378451580 289290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matrices and matrix multiplication are funny because they're almost like a monoid but not quite. < 1378451597 577298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you can't multiply any two matrices, you can only do it if they match. < 1378451622 420492 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378451633 574153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have (*) :: M i j -> M j k -> M i k, and you have id :: M i i for any i. < 1378451661 886143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I see you haven't been keeping up with the news: https://collectivelyunconscious.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/matrix-dimensions-reach-agreement-at-peace-summit/ < 1378451691 577557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's how categories work in general. You have a multiplication operation but it only works for things that match. < 1378451707 810127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh no! < 1378451711 405972 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, matrices are a nice example. < 1378451735 998445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, for a category C, you have, uh... < 1378451757 721924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A collection of objects < 1378451813 602770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A collection of arrows, where each arrow is has a domain and codomain (source and taget) object, written as e.g. f : A -> B < 1378451870 429955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A composition operation, (.), which can compose two matching arrows. I.e. for any two arrows f : A -> B, g : B -> C, you can write g . f : A -> C < 1378451928 250893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :For every object A, you have an identity arrow, id : A -> A, such that f . id = f, id . f = f < 1378451940 93786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sometimes you specify which object you're talking about by writing e.g. id_A) < 1378451952 18430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And composition is associative, so (f . g) . h = f . (g . h) < 1378451959 77665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does all that make sense? < 1378452077 670931 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yarr < 1378452077 904575 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Splice the Mainbrace! < 1378452082 43442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr < 1378452082 200325 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrr! < 1378452533 532402 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I was thinking about whether matrix transposition would be a valid functor from M i j to M j i, but that would violate the F f . F g = F (f . g) rule. (The rule for this would be F f . F g = F (g . f), i think.) < 1378452550 445049 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yeah, makes sense. < 1378452629 302323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that kind of functor exists too, and it even turns out to be the same kind of functor. < 1378452666 774936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, we should have some examples. < 1378452710 425070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's the matrix example. < 1378452723 77640 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a monoid is the same thing as a category with one object. Do you see why? < 1378452837 561003 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The single object is the type of the monoid? < 1378452875 181220 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*) :: a -> a -> a always < 1378452887 214444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1378452895 378553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not "the type of the monoid" < 1378452902 299476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The object can be anything. < 1378452940 133576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each arrow corresponds to an element of the monoid. The object is just there so the arrows can have a domain/codomain. < 1378452944 464472 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah… Still stuck in the familiar thinking. :-) < 1378452986 958562 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another popular simple example is a partially-ordered set. You know those? < 1378453287 816298 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading the Wikipedia page… Something with (≤) :: a -> a -> Maybe Bool? < 1378453314 243000 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a relation, but you can think of it that way. < 1378453315 911093 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378453357 732047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A poset is a set along with a relation ≤, with the three properties listed in that page you're probably reading right now. < 1378453642 183610 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, i guess i get it. The set of subsets ordered by inclusion is a good example. < 1378453684 148129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1378453736 216248 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natural numbers ordered by divisibility, too. < 1378453766 229162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can look at any poset as a category, where the objects are the elements of the set, and you have an arrow from A to B iff A ≤ B < 1378453779 133469 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise you have no arrows. < 1378453790 738150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that you have at most one arrow between any two objects this way. < 1378453883 37189 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it the identity arrow corresponds to reflexivity and composition corresponds to transitivity? < 1378453896 468126 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1378453922 616652 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, i guess i get it. < 1378453957 757784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's no category axiom that corresponds to antisymmetry, because it's still a category even without that.) < 1378453984 449855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess you could say that a poset is skeletal or something? Doesn't matter.) < 1378453998 438592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1378454010 386438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So another category is one where the arrows are functions and the objects are sets. < 1378454014 933924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Haskell types, for that matter. < 1378454040 21399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We usually pretend that Haskell is total when we say that, to make life easy.) < 1378454112 952812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you have lots of other categories for lots of other things you might want to talk about. < 1378454134 242787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. you have a category where the objects are monoids and the arrows are monoid homomorphisms. < 1378454141 341171 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1378454155 594342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A monoid homomorphism is a function f between monoids where f(1) = 1 and f(a)*f(b) = f(a*b).) < 1378454159 39013 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That might look familiar!) < 1378454312 764052 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes notes
< 1378454374 814455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also very small categories, like the category 0 with no objects and no arrows, the category 1 with one object and one arrow, and various other ones. < 1378454467 195438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, for any category, there's its "opposite category". < 1378454477 323730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty much the same thing except the arrows are backwards. < 1378454515 476879 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in the category Hask^op, an arrow from A to B is a Haskell function from B to A. < 1378454617 309148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the definition of functor make sense with all of these? < 1378454633 357027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a functor between two posets be? < 1378454716 596949 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378454957 641971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There are also a bunch of boring ways to make categories, like a category where the only arrows that exist are identity arrows, but who cares about those.) < 1378455021 762514 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I'm going to sleep. < 1378455058 667303 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just finished writing notes about everything up to now. Good night, and thanks a lot. I’ll think about the question about a functor between two posets. < 1378455104 106841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, if you're here you can probably figure it out. < 1378455139 269284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just give the definition of a functor, and replace "an arrow from A to B" with "we know that A ≤ B". < 1378455159 60162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You don't care *which* arrow because there's at most one.) < 1378455246 246872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, sleep. < 1378455289 189805 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m a bit too tired to concentrate as well, i’ll watch a TV show episode or two with a friend and get some sleep. I’ll continue from this point at a later time. < 1378457376 574503 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378458559 975808 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378460771 84204 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378460860 686067 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378460953 444318 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378461020 457184 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378461077 196888 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378464613 690670 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378464926 224751 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378465190 875825 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378465315 75020 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378465337 639664 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378468244 716344 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378468360 74666 :everquester!~ff0x@101.255.24.142 QUIT : < 1378468540 226309 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:ed55:d929:142d:aea9 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378468687 104929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378468760 634290 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378468872 623157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good diæ̈resis morning! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/IMAG0024.jpg < 1378468888 853252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(picture taken Wednesday around 6pm UTC-4) < 1378468935 41014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett no idea. what are you referring to? < 1378468935 186162 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378469274 953290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good räksmörgås < 1378469447 227574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck räksmörgås < 1378469447 614844 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378469771 615395 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378469866 983779 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a swedish word that happens to contain all of our letters with diacritics < 1378469878 903354 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes used to test for encoding issues < 1378469967 111061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :öh. < 1378470085 864374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Now you've made me hungry. < 1378470121 105714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got two wisdom teeth extracted the other day, eating has been a bit tricky lately.) < 1378470341 220429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers being on narcotics when he had his teeth disappear into a dentist
< 1378470347 368925 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378470690 973156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which one did you have removed? < 1378470816 266889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both left ones. < 1378470832 97056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also had both right ones done before the summer. < 1378470989 236956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird pattern, but it sounds more pragmatic than "top two" then "bottom two". < 1378471009 119166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top procedure is like just about anything else. a little hurt, but nothing more. < 1378471018 875010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the bottom two... ooooooh... *shudders* < 1378471067 791389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea was that I'd still have one side of the mouth to chew with. < 1378471089 57753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the other side's so swollen I'd just be biting my cheek the whole time. But I guess it'll subside. < 1378471393 852583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom's blender was my best friend during those days. liquefied puréed veggies in the morning, at lunch, at night. room temperature. < 1378471492 899162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might have been a good idea. < 1378472125 315248 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378473930 687212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, folks < 1378473938 586076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Donut-day < 1378473942 663294 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All rejoice < 1378473965 666401 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378474019 685762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378474360 691552 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378474375 841030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nearest Tim is 650 m away. I can donut. all is not lost! < 1378474544 92423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378474556 520564 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the Donut Bringer at my workplace < 1378474629 445148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoken as a true Canadian. < 1378474718 353652 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378474824 587766 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378475018 309511 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378475266 744405 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378475638 868031 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1378475674 189950 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378475845 691594 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378475987 100184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND HERE WE GO AGAIN < 1378476006 64247 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canada Cup 2013, "I can't maintain a connection to save my life" edition < 1378476057 239735 :Solain!4d7d83fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.125.131.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378476063 415855 :Solain!4d7d83fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.125.131.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1378476073 932449 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378476081 709029 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378476178 795759 :Solain!4d7d83fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.125.131.254 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378476246 158797 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two minutes < 1378476251 614859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That has to be some kind of record < 1378476274 567033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked away from the window for *two* minutes < 1378476283 141341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he came and went during that time < 1378476295 278382 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically it was two minutes and two seconds < 1378476313 670484 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, probably three for me < 1378476314 844749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear some amateur radio enthusiasts can achieve subsecond connections with only 500 mW rigs. < 1378476472 186627 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine walking up to your friends or calling on a phone and saying "hello" and they just ignore you and you wait for two whole minutes and they don't even acknowledge your presence < 1378476557 346419 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Mnoqy :-) < 1378476560 648511 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378476575 816517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine putting up a note on a billboard at a workplace saying "hello" and people keep working for two whole minutes and they don't even acknowledge your presence =P < 1378476602 267759 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he had pinged me, I'd have answered quickly < 1378476604 586010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378476609 589208 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, hi mnoqy < 1378476619 902495 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the joke is that thinking about irc like that is horribly wrong but solain seems to do it anyway < 1378476628 86105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep seeing overlap in channels I'm in on different networks. It's fun. < 1378476634 410130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :analphabillboardetism is a major problem, rampant in developed countries. < 1378476639 568664 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: Most IRC newbies are like that. < 1378476686 96112 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello, I came to the dedicated help channel for a project, and there are like 15 ops in here that can probably help me with my easily googlable problem, can anyone help me?" < 1378476691 973935 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :*waits 30 seconds* < 1378476695 611010 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quits* < 1378476844 313483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, "hey, I have this problem" *32 seconds* "solved it myself. kthxbye!" < 1378476997 39240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's an insult before the quit. < 1378477010 591097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, "well, this was a waste of time *quits*". < 1378477665 189716 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. The old ragequit variation: cause rage, then quit < 1378478646 1784 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378478998 572590 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378479125 758754 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378481480 687891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like norwegian music. http://youtu.be/PaEnaoydUUo?list=PLfNe3nGQENtP3VCn1t1pybju9ffSPBohU < 1378481811 711247 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And norwegian music love you~~ < 1378481858 542971 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the second time someone's mentioned Ylvis today. I hadn't heard of them before... < 1378481912 648775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway always happen at least twice. < 1378481930 227162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote norway always happen at least twice. < 1378481932 789731 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378481935 68208 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378481936 790417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1378481940 579188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoteadd norway always happen at least twice. < 1378481941 912663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoteadd: not found < 1378481945 478152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1378481954 538673 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain This is broken, please fix < 1378481955 857838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378481969 859021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: have you tried quoting it off and on again? < 1378481975 338117 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have < 1378481977 149889 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Killed it < 1378481979 691309 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to do CPR < 1378481982 609805 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a bot, so yeah < 1378482298 224599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a shirt with “once, twice, thrice, fouice...” just to disgust English majors who pass by. < 1378482324 493092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, wander around McGill. < 1378482404 735501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1378482419 477461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiice < 1378482422 779224 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :siice < 1378482447 233762 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're not dead by then, you should probably become a survivorman or something < 1378482744 521351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier to get swallowed by a random pothole than to get beaten to death by a university student here... < 1378482838 492934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're pro-tuition raise < 1378482839 563999 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378483030 265153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you get 728ed, or smashed by a gratteux de guitare. if I'm about to go out, then I'll do it with style and total grammar disregard. < 1378483074 762519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(728: matricule of a brutish policewoman who got embroiled in unlawful beatings and stuff.) < 1378483090 374721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(«gratteux de guitare»: one of the many epithets she attributed to the protesting students.) < 1378483124 694583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(total grammar disregard: me I'm agree with grammar of angliche.) < 1378483402 425252 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378483442 205751 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi guys, I remember meeting some brilliant folks in here once. Maybe you can help. I have a very specific problem and am looking for a solution that might already exist < 1378483456 767490 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm searching for a solution that can do sliding-window searches on collections of ordered data. Think if you've got fingerprints for each frame of a movie: f(1), f(2)... f(n) and you intercepted a subclip from that movie and have it's finger prints s(1), s(2)...s(n) < 1378483472 800567 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I could do this in any language, really, but I need something that will index and do a fuzzy search < 1378483486 687901 :k_k_k!~kcd@118.99.76.34 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378483493 452733 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ou needed a specific comparison function to compare one fingerprint to another < 1378483517 321893 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that function is essentially a euclidean distance function with a tolerance threshold < 1378483542 872067 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know of any language that would be primo for that, OR, do you know of an esoteric data storage system for such a sliding-window database < 1378484046 190686 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378484083 706664 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378484205 133115 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378484422 354149 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378484424 208232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378484436 307015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you forgot to stealth your ops < 1378484450 810322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've been creating an esolang :) < 1378484459 186871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably my second-best esolang ever, after Underload < 1378484464 97158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that exists, I mean < 1378484490 913124 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I didn't get a reply on my offer to kick someone! < 1378484493 45028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1378484493 135235 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378484507 219402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's easy to forget, I've been yelled at in other channels for that :) < 1378484549 176168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, I don't have an impl or any programs yet; I was considering holding off on releasing it until I had some < 1378484586 728919 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it like? < 1378484603 46851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Snowflake is a reversible, self-modifying, data-parallel esoteric programming language created by User:ais523 in 2013." < 1378484607 823733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :first line of the wiki article I'm writing atm < 1378484621 608219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the "self-modifying" is more literal than normal < 1378484626 131084 :Rafajafar!~chatzilla@pool-71-246-238-90.washdc.fios.verizon.net PART :#esoteric < 1378484631 465303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :executing Snowflake programs actually alters the interpreter < 1378484684 858847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this also makes it impossible to compile; if you had a compiler, you could compile a program, then delete the compiler, then executing the program would leave you with no implementation to modify) < 1378484701 718193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad you're still insane. < 1378484725 271590 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378484735 332215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1378484775 243267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point during its development, a hello world program would likely need strong AI < 1378484778 262419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I toned it down a bit < 1378484812 320513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely independent of all the self-modification stuff, it also has a fun set of primitives < 1378484815 183187 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC13D76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378484833 821458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stack-based, but doesn't really have any of the usual primitives < 1378484839 484765 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it almost has () from Underload, except sometimes not < 1378484845 808907 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has rotate < 1378484854 189809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's about it if you wanted something sane < 1378484871 641951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it also almost has cons < 1378484921 999439 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC13D76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1378485025 732865 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378485142 72996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, I also had another language idea < 1378485168 733844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it looks for the eight most commonly occurring repeated patterns in the source, and does some statistical analysis < 1378485178 978511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then interprets them as BF instructions and execute < 1378485193 668124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd save everyone time if we had an interp for all these pointless BF derivatives preëmptively < 1378485216 393568 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1378485270 964142 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Why did people yell at you because you had your op-hat on? < 1378485275 506973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you could get like 99% accuracy just by printing "Hello world" if the program couldn't be recognised < 1378485287 787435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's not so much yelling, it's more just reminding people to take it off again < 1378485296 813810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want everything you say to be perceived as official < 1378485305 774329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like trying to play Agora entirely on a-b, but worse < 1378485310 93041 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1378485354 539955 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Levels the talking field, true < 1378485394 70126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing is that people joining a channel with visible ops typically assume that there's a troll attack going on /right now/ < 1378485396 330079 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to talking in channels where everyone is +o, so I didn't get why =P < 1378485400 618670 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378485434 97580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unlikely to happen here; elliott has little tolerance for known troublemakers, and unknown troublemakers are normally much too fun to toy with to actually use op powers on them < 1378485453 674989 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378485494 216371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, re the topic: "peöple"? < 1378485502 225707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can pronounce that but it doesn't seem to be a real word < 1378485532 975672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is there any particular reason why LaTeX? < 1378485541 281185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least, LaTeX styling and fonts) < 1378485665 869740 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, someone's just added a bunch of diaereses even where they don't apply :( < 1378485702 417612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I dislike the way backquote is rendered < 1378485740 598411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who should I send these comments to, anyway? I instantly assumed Gregor was responsible, but browsing through the reasons behind this, I can't think of any reason why he would be < 1378485750 733886 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the fact that it's on dropbox not codu implies it's likely someone else) < 1378485781 851927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The wisdom PDF is boily's work, unless I misremember. < 1378485783 602562 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alexandre Boily, i'd guess < 1378485787 104349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378485793 518712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ^ < 1378485836 252139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it didn't render the mojibake properly < 1378485838 949784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mojibake < 1378485841 345298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mojibake _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ̦̻ͭͭͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ­_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í < 1378485855 448199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes it did, the entry is either broken or not really like any mojibake I've ever seen < 1378485880 983668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The backtick is very confusing, yes, I think someone already complained about it? < 1378485895 583682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1378485902 915825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378485952 112638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm disappointed that nobody's talking about Snowflake :( < 1378486000 93775 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't tell us you finished the article! < 1378486010 375086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1378486012 184908 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, it's huge again. < 1378486020 334596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a complex language < 1378486025 512798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus why I don't have an interp yet < 1378486038 940613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, if you write a Snowflake interp, I strongly recommend keeping a backup < 1378486063 988063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, `? ursala is great < 1378486065 580903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1378486067 740494 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1378486072 422901 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: polarised nested lists is an oklopolism, by the way < 1378486080 90503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: good to hear it < 1378486093 507071 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had a beautiful language based around them that I forget the details of < 1378486103 192679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably wasn't Snowflake < 1378486109 258174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a natural way to do reversibility < 1378486125 854096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can use a polarity flip to easily handle error conditions in a reversible way < 1378486145 190911 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain The backtick doesn't render right < 1378486146 780685 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378486164 89508 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nop-based, I think < 1378486175 832233 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it used the syntax <...> for positive lists and >...< for negative ones < 1378486179 158543 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :using whitespace to disambiguate < 1378486182 569442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, this PDF has the QDB appended < 1378486186 666518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to stop reading for safety reasons < 1378486189 979689 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could say <>< <>< <>> ><> < 1378486193 287479 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I laughed so much I had trouble breathing < 1378486200 713656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how very INTERcAL < 1378486202 271474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*INTERCAL < 1378486246 301924 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain missing line break before quote 81!! < 1378486247 690778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378486332 820088 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain also 95 and probably others... < 1378486334 96718 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378486354 232406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, did anyone see this year's ICFP contest? I saw it late so didn't participate, but it reminded me a lot of oklopol-Clue < 1378486371 227485 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The "guess the function" one? < 1378486375 272880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378486386 308767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it sounded interesting < 1378486389 366485 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378486409 468883 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, is there any particular reason why LaTeX? < 1378486419 100063 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because boily really likes LaTeX < 1378486422 126949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1378486428 795708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX makes pretty much everything look academic < 1378486437 459210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the same way that Latin makes pretty much anything look profound < 1378486459 780141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain (By the way, what with the pineapples?) < 1378486461 234165 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378486498 902210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the pineapples < 1378486507 170159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the slices of lime, but more LaTeX < 1378486519 552463 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bienvenue < 1378486521 494546 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue sur le centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d'informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l'autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1378486522 220596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1378486523 496348 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo $0- >> /dev/null; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.; < 1378486554 720759 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, isn't it great? < 1378486555 12856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it should echo $@ instead < 1378486562 799996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the implementation hardly matters, because the logs are greppable < 1378486565 233420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same way that the list works < 1378486570 59543 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378486579 119894 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a pretty obvious optimization to `complain < 1378486582 463163 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Ah, possible. I'm not all that good at bash =P < 1378486591 743348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've actually started doing something similar in other channels < 1378486592 76692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what's the - about? < 1378486606 395830 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: >I'm not all that good at bash < 1378486609 546735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it did something < 1378486615 764724 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $0- < 1378486617 542064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash- < 1378486619 361427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does, it adds a hyphen to the end of the message < 1378486621 543138 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't have access to a term to confirm < 1378486623 640446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah < 1378486628 631495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it did something *more* < 1378486636 92487 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing it doesn't matter < 1378486642 115359 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would explain why my other script didn't work >_> < 1378486642 677158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/\$0-/"$@"/' bin/complain < 1378486643 960932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, the /dev/null is filling up with copies of "bash-" atm < 1378486647 330219 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378486660 766367 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $@ < 1378486661 944778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378486663 995874 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378486669 896977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm trying to figure out why you felt the need to correctly handle whitespace in arguments there < 1378486678 709150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter for at least two independent reasons < 1378486689 579984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(echo adds space between its arguments, and the output's going to /dev/null anyway) < 1378486729 38184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I feel the need to use correct idioms by default when possible. < 1378486733 715690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a habit that quotes arguments correctly is a good habit to have < 1378486741 662249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than think "should I use quotes here or " -- yes, that. < 1378486746 353771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/complain < 1378486748 117298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" >> /dev/null; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.; < 1378486750 118311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except $@ is very special and gets quoted in a special way. < 1378486751 193323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378486753 261979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But oh well. < 1378486778 873974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well $@'s entire purpose is to get quoted correctly < 1378486784 218471 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378486794 218339 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/>>/>/g' bin/complain < 1378486798 101639 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378486802 6967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/complain < 1378486803 241562 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" > /dev/null; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.; < 1378486803 942664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :$@ is weird because «"$@"» gets split into multiple arguments. < 1378486811 634167 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, that's even better < 1378486824 510777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain ais523 doesn't visit us enough < 1378486825 861932 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378486848 841114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, I spent days of thought + an evening writing a new, complex esolang which is some of my best work < 1378486854 431944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #esoteric continues not discussing esolangs < 1378486864 886911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at this point I'm not sure it's possible to get ontopic discussion here < 1378486871 507607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and although I don't mind offtopic discussion < 1378486876 657596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ontopic discussion is the reason I come here < 1378486884 785909 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Womp womp < 1378486887 748795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no reason for me to be here, I don't visit < 1378486911 585602 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1378486928 392591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Snowflake < 1378487052 303247 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that's the name of my Linux distro X-D < 1378487066 117390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no reason I can't name an esolang after a Linux distro :) < 1378487071 830878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although it wasn't, we can pretend if you like) < 1378487184 137020 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :“due for the tendency for documentation to get out of date quickly” lul < 1378487221 20931 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sec < 1378487246 365813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: $0- is a syntax, it's just not the bash syntax. < 1378487272 121679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What syntax is it, then? =) < 1378487277 739344 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that sounds pretty cool (from the introduction, will read the rest in a bit, got some stuff to take care of first) < 1378487288 651024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1378487299 214406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working on an interp, incidentally, but it's not finished ye < 1378487301 988305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yet < 1378487317 779349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I don't quite recall, but it certainly was a syntax somewhere. ircII scripts? Something. < 1378487324 86693 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so unlike Feather it is doable? < 1378487331 725006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully I'll eventually have a working hello world that can run successfully more than once < 1378487338 679671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: *unlike Feather it is possible for me to implement < 1378487344 611015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1378487350 104583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still convinced that Feather is implementable in general, I've just proven myself not up to the task < 1378487359 724464 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378487389 988654 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah, yes. That's the way scripting works on KVIrc. Thanks =) < 1378487563 625204 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "it should be stored in files encoded in ASCII (more complex encodings are unnecessary due to the highly limited character set)" <-- that seems to work for most languages though... Can only think of a couple of examples that require more than ASCII. < 1378487581 609557 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :«lol Perl 6» < 1378487581 754798 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is impossible to write a Snowflake compiler, due to the possibility that the compiler would be deleted before the program was run (thus leaving the program with no implementation to modify) <-- hm, not quite sure about this one. Would a JIT be impossible? < 1378487592 821408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you can write << and >> instead < 1378487594 791705 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, that an some encodings of INTERCAL < 1378487599 614884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or qqw/.../ < 1378487600 576981 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? okay < 1378487601 101543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1378487606 48941 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then just some encodings of intercal < 1378487613 998825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I guess a JIT would be possible, indeed < 1378487615 663571 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, digraphs and trigraphs worked so well for C ;) < 1378487638 85845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lachine < 1378487640 153264 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lachine? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378487640 516371 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378487640 695516 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            º¯`\o < 1378487658 866736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that script interaction isn't going to get annoying at all < 1378487667 254428 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, it already has < 1378487675 258995 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're on the road to acceptance now < 1378487707 723240 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we not just shove a null or a zwsp in the middle of the face < 1378487718 451955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, the fix is to give HackEgo ops, so that it can temporarily mute myndzi when erroring out from `? and then unmute em a few seconds later < 1378487729 398569 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the response was added solely for the purpose of `? < 1378487730 523335 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378487731 42507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is in the mood for excessively complex fixes right now
< 1378487732 444670 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I like that solution even more < 1378487742 817870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it'd do well to stop botloops generally < 1378487745 318973 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :HackEgo > 1378487745 340920 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378487750 204608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should have HackEgo always opped < 1378487761 689483 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a challenge, to get it to send arbitrary IRC commands < 1378487772 555343 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As such, there is an effective column of tarnished thread stretching off into infinity." < 1378487776 503365 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this < 1378487788 209049 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the joke that everybody's too horribly lonery to just ask myndzi to stop < 1378487792 470180 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wasn't that disabled in the wake of the plazma thing < 1378487806 954993 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this going to be another `ls wisdom < 1378487830 477879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's more that we're esoprogrammers, and that solution is insufficiently creative < 1378487847 246428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi's wisdom explains it: < 1378487847 391713 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my mind is not in a state for reading the execution model right now. Way too tired to remember the start of the paragraph when I reach the end of it. I guess I'll give you some feedback tomorrow. < 1378487848 349238 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myndzi < 1378487850 20345 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi keeps us all on our feet < 1378487856 613963 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh huh, uh huh, sure < 1378487865 546868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: fair enough < 1378487908 786692 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Lachine is where I live. boily and I realized that not only do we live in the same city (Montréal), he's the brother of one of my friends. =P < 1378487917 769906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: right < 1378487926 389615 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, that is pretty funny < 1378487926 958751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured from the topic that there had to be at least two people there < 1378487929 220775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but didn't know what it was < 1378487971 916105 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378488088 884213 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1378488143 141800 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does ! in double quotes in bash actually do; and, is it actually worth the inconvenience of not being able to write exclamation marks at all in double quotes? < 1378488164 832866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer to your second question is no. < 1378488207 696930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best part is that you can't even up-arrow and fix the old line. < 1378488229 100284 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "!!" < 1378488230 524262 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!! < 1378488237 825150 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it's only in interactive mode. < 1378488239 481346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo !! < 1378488241 95973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​!! < 1378488241 652512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378488254 186027 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it just interpolates the last ccommand. < 1378488256 144417 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like sudo !!. < 1378488262 595411 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... something. < 1378488262 740704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo test \ test \ $ echo "!-1" \ echo "echo test" \ echo test \ $ < 1378488270 133882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's what it does for me < 1378488271 905372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's for interpolating previous commands < 1378488278 806543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked from the docs < 1378488291 454261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash has a man page, and less's search isn't that awful (although info would be better) < 1378488291 808437 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very useful when you forget sudo < 1378488306 197770 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it *was* useful when my "home" key didn't work < 1378488307 222306 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm running windows right now so < 1378488361 702258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :KITTEN/ANTIKITTEN < 1378488363 161054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1378488365 893962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to act ignorant and pretend that everyone has man pages even on Windows < 1378488382 71833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I did convert the entirety of Perl's documentation to HTML so that I could view it on Windows < 1378488397 313414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that documentation that ships with Perl, that is; not all of CPAN, that'd take ages) < 1378488522 24340 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378488534 665413 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378488630 495646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, I got talked about myself, and if anyone wants to contribute to the Thingue, holler and I'll add you to the github repo. < 1378488634 274378 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, third question: is there actually any reason for echo "\!" to print \! < 1378488635 403981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or nooodl too, I guess.) < 1378488635 994897 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378488642 897172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you're doing PHP, yes. < 1378488652 394852 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right the thing! < 1378488691 285001 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i couldn't get it to compile because my latex installation doesn't support cjk characters... i have no idea how to fix this < 1378488725 222839 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I use the texlive-langcjk package on archlinux. < 1378488784 162284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Message from syslogd@dragon at Sep 4 23:21:00 ... < 1378488784 307558 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : kernel:[189848.967709] journal commit I/O error < 1378488789 82270 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks... worrying < 1378488797 798647 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch < 1378488826 788726 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, an external USB 3 HDD is remounted as read-only on that system < 1378488837 136701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The backup disk to be specific < 1378488849 595305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing syslogd told you, then < 1378488858 395350 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh crap =P < 1378488861 290439 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it was actually printed to the console < 1378488866 156037 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read-only backup sounds like a good idea < 1378488878 666894 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, seems to have happened during a backup < 1378488881 187053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dat extrema unctio ad Vorpalem
< 1378488900 783074 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[189848.966756] EXT4-fs warning (device sde1): ext4_end_bio:250: I/O error writing to inode 15076550 (offset 17760256 size 126976 starting block 56993246) < 1378488900 928226 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[189848.966758] Buffer I/O error on device sde1, logical block 56992990 < 1378488900 928392 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :[189848.966760] Buffer I/O error on device sde1, logical block 56992991 < 1378488910 618823 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousand of lines like that < 1378488912 940496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it probably sent it to all VTs < 1378488914 627295 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuh oh. < 1378488917 103848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yep < 1378488955 375123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, the disk is like less than two weeks old, but the USB 3 hub it is on is much newer than that, in fact the first after buying the hub < 1378488963 919853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your HDD is HDDead, jim. < 1378489006 89367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: could you send me the log of the pdf not compiling? < 1378489094 433807 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, the HDD seems fine after remounting it. No SMART errors. A bit of journal recovery. Going to run a SMART tests on it. < 1378489102 145701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1378489111 392221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I suspect it might be USB3-related actually < 1378489117 860439 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378489123 144736 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or related to that new hub, since it happened in the middle of the backup < 1378489144 3219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. bad thing, that. not karmic at all. < 1378489174 161701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:21:00 tux kernel: [189848.848388] hub 4-2:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -71) < 1378489178 564403 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1378489201 251075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: karmic's a bit old by now, isn't it? < 1378489210 941684 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:52 tux kernel: [189840.988070] usb 6-1.3.2: USB disconnect, device number 91 < 1378489211 86979 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:52 tux kernel: [189841.314285] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: ERROR no room on ep ring < 1378489211 87052 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:52 tux kernel: [189841.314289] hub 3-2:1.0: activate --> -12 < 1378489211 87097 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:59 tux kernel: [189848.319721] usb 4-2.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd < 1378489211 704222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:59 tux kernel: [189848.335562] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep ffff8801d24320c0 < 1378489213 450527 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:20:59 tux kernel: [189848.335568] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep ffff8801d2432100 < 1378489216 446631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:21:00 tux kernel: [189848.611473] usb 4-2.4: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd < 1378489219 214430 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I/O failing due to the USB link failing is reasonable < 1378489221 448217 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:21:00 tux kernel: [189848.627292] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep ffff8801d24320c0 < 1378489224 456247 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:21:00 tux kernel: [189848.627297] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI xhci_drop_endpoint called with disabled ep ffff8801d2432100 < 1378489227 473039 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sep 4 23:21:00 tux kernel: [189848.848388] hub 4-2:1.0: hub_port_status failed (err = -71) < 1378489229 464442 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, looks like USB fucked up badly < 1378489255 634166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to have happened like a second after I disconnected my phone from another USB controller where it was charging < 1378489262 906295 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less than a second < 1378489264 909672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err -71 is bad. it indeed is an USB cabling error, usually. remove any intermediate steps or hops or everything, change cables, hope for the best. < 1378489280 665661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, oh? Is there a list of these numbers somewhere? < 1378489280 852455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you just look that up, or did you have it memorized? < 1378489284 725788 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be useful < 1378489352 817161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: probably. in fact, that may be very useful. < 1378489362 507833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I *believe* [189840.988070] usb 6-1.3.2: USB disconnect, device number 91 is my phone disconnecting < 1378489365 294952 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, -71 is common and happened to me multiple times. < 1378489375 986408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378489392 714801 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bus matches, the device doesn't though, but that seems to change on every disconnect or connect < 1378489393 375428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily works in a linux box. He probably has every man page printed on his desk. < 1378489410 892411 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, he IS a linux box. < 1378489413 546504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was doing mobile development on android devices, and I had connection problems with one phone, for example. < 1378489414 614867 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378489416 359105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty cool AI < 1378489438 525726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: why would you print man pages? apropos or even grep are better at searching than pper < 1378489439 990859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*paper < 1378489456 576052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, I'll build an automated arduinoed facepalm machine, and I'll dedicate it to you guys. < 1378489465 26387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, my phone seems to have a glitchy connector nowdays. Just over a year old too. Charging still works fine though, it is just that data might glitch out of you touch the connector < 1378489480 127766 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What if you don't have access to your computer? < 1378489488 597041 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: we have a custom man page about how to brew coffee, scotched taped to the wall next to the machine. < 1378489489 530470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: then typically I don't need the content of the man page < 1378489500 940548 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Be Prepared is what I say < 1378489515 826982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the very few cases where I've wanted to check a man page and not had my regular computer, /and/ the computer I was actually using didn't have man pages installed < 1378489524 192515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then it's like an old dusty NES: try to find the correct ritual that works, and stick to it. < 1378489527 949638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was an Internet connection I could reasonably use, so I looked them up online < 1378489560 410775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, my ritual is charging over USB but running an SSH server on the phone and mounting it over sshfs instead < 1378489561 230888 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, the Internet < 1378489563 494161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot about that < 1378489570 996736 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, works better than bloody MTP anyway < 1378489594 111996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I actually /can/ conceive of a situation where this wouldn't work, but it's never actually happened so far < 1378489605 603553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a limit to the number of things I can carry around just in case < 1378489606 629163 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, fuck MTP I say. Why did they think it was a good idea. < 1378489611 284195 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious... What would that situation be? < 1378489614 748192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to carry out a printout of the FIDE Rules of Chess, for emergencies < 1378489618 305023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it actually came in handy once < 1378489622 348967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that thing I've been avoiding since its inception? < 1378489624 347538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't any more, it's not worth it < 1378489627 19916 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, you can't do anything useful over it, like rsyncing your music library. < 1378489630 566739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: programming a Linux-based microcontroller < 1378489638 858178 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, most likely < 1378489639 260301 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, true < 1378489645 907350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the labs where I've done it had Windows computers only, and only intermittently working Internet < 1378489654 204161 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the Internet had gone down, I could be left manpageless < 1378489654 861599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's useful, therefore you can't. < 1378489668 163767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, quite < 1378489695 541725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :lsusb is a bit on the fence about my phone model: < 1378489697 941700 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bus 006 Device 050: ID 04e8:6860 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9100 Phone [Galaxy S II], GT-I9300 Phone [Galaxy S III], GT-P7500 [Galaxy Tab 10.1] < 1378489718 435364 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second one is correct < 1378489720 548590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably those models use the same identifier < 1378489723 961392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lsusb has no way to tell which < 1378489727 901948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep most likely < 1378489747 94423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my desk is manpageless: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/IMAG0028.jpg < 1378489757 476971 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, however, it does show up as GT-I9300 in Windows for example (as an MTP device). So that managed to detect it somehow < 1378489766 270895 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :manpage, the page for men < 1378489767 121217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you feel the need to photograph your desk just to prove there were no man pages on it? < 1378489781 280587 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, work or home? < 1378489787 450763 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also not enough monitors < 1378489790 608868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like work < 1378489795 16168 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :made with VELLUM < 1378489795 562113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :home wouldn't have a room that shape, most likely < 1378489800 941203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm true < 1378489803 656344 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes Vorpal < 1378489803 801509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes. I have honour! < 1378489811 128802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ? < 1378489816 222672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: work. < 1378489818 145042 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nice desk. I like it. < 1378489824 239031 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine is a bit... messier. < 1378489827 898376 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't sweden where everyone lives in rooms the size of a small house < 1378489832 151316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually don't have a desk atm < 1378489841 324074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as of yesterday < 1378489847 979472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you voice me, please? < 1378489850 366474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the teaching contract thing ended < 1378489855 110740 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes < 1378489861 797587 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I gave the desk back because I have no reason to use it and the department's short atm < 1378489869 154005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, eh, not that roomy in my place. I just thought it looked a bit unordered for a work desk < 1378489888 551188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I actually returned a key that opens most of the doors in the building, rather than the desk; the desk was in the right place, the problem was that the wrong person was there) < 1378489898 639879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: my work desk was basically empty < 1378489906 644365 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't sweden, where all desktop items are aligned upon perfect euclidean boundaries < 1378489907 740922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent 4 years with nothing there but CPU/monitor/mouse/keyboard < 1378489921 671790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about the HDD? < 1378489922 693811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An ATM is when you're withdrawing money right now at a machine that will steal your relevant info" >wisdom/atm < 1378489926 633096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378489927 875628 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume swiss desktop items are noneuclidean and gigeresque. < 1378489928 174537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a filing cabinet with a bunch of paper in (most of which has now been recycled or sent for secure disposal) < 1378489932 834932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: CPU tower container thing < 1378489940 359781 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, XD < 1378489953 952140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was probably an HDD in there too, although all the filesystems I use regularly were NFS < 1378489961 100341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*used < 1378489962 58086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mathemanswered me, didn't you? < 1378489966 123486 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? A thin client? < 1378489967 206293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, still use from time to time < 1378489967 351358 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dutch desktop items disobey all laws of perspective? < 1378489986 882251 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, it was like a powerful quad-core machine or something < 1378489991 750917 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378489999 462186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the storage was all elsewhere, for centralisation reasons < 1378490010 264858 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378490014 97159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a quad core is not that powerful these days, more like the norm nowdays. Impressive how technology progresses < 1378490026 215255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even my phone is quad core after all < 1378490027 238605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but it was powerful at the time < 1378490041 605091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite rare that I actually used the power < 1378490047 944225 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :My phone is way more powerful than my first computer. By order of magnitudes. < 1378490053 729197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I githubly found you. < 1378490060 398058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378490061 812691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the only time was when I used Virtualbox for marking the keyloggers < 1378490068 695977 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my first computer was a first-model iBook, so it isn't like I'm talking about a 386 or such here < 1378490093 204887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because rebooting would have been a pain if they went wrong and crashed the kernel < 1378490097 409607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, marking the keyloggers? What? < 1378490104 882752 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Key loggers? That sounds... nefarious < 1378490106 639041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the students were asked to write keyloggers < 1378490108 741654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was asked to mark them < 1378490113 278105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378490119 959459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite a simple exercise that you can give starting-out kernel developers < 1378490127 49834 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1378490137 199273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only have to hook one interrupt, and it has the basics of things like memory allocation discipline and proper locking < 1378490144 277891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and making files in /proc < 1378490166 579297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I would assume it works differently for PS/2, serial, USB and so on? < 1378490199 629543 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it did in that exercise, possibly they were hooking at a different abstraction level < 1378490204 924671 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1378490225 709837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else the course designer didn't realise that would be a problem, and it just happened to use the same virtualised port in VirtualBox < 1378490239 996126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1378490242 949831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the students were working in a lab of computers set aside for that sort of thing, which get wiped afterwards) < 1378490254 77866 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can believe that the people in charge of the course didn't think it would be a problem < 1378490263 422269 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378490292 191392 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How do you get that sweet, short URL? < 1378490295 144786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For dropbox%? < 1378490297 476270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an 11-week course, designed to be worked on at the same time as 5 other courses, about assembler and C and the GNU dialect of C and C++ and Linux kernel development < 1378490299 628123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that you ever see anything but USB these days. Or I guess whatever laptops use for their internal keyboards... < 1378490306 637353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm what *do* those use? < 1378490315 372854 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internal PS/2 or something better? < 1378490323 160983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PS/2 would make sense < 1378490336 12179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it could believably be something else < 1378490351 727354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, seems like it would be costlier to not reuse the existing USB bus, like almost all bluetooth modules do in laptops anyway < 1378490383 355810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well then you need a bunch of hardware to convert the keypresses to the USB protocol < 1378490386 718383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might still be cheaper, though, I guess < 1378490402 675447 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found it < 1378490404 253511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would depend on whether complexity on the motherboard or keyboard was more costly < 1378490404 398743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/a9v6ve4elg7m36p/20130906_135201.jpg < 1378490425 229146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would likely depend on what connectors happened to be on the motherboard < 1378490433 475996 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, nice office. < 1378490438 284546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're probably ordering them COTS, rather than having them custom-made < 1378490444 721861 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"office", yeah =P < 1378490453 916446 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, oh? I thought it wasn't home < 1378490459 409599 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like "mostly open cubicule", but yeah, office < 1378490460 683488 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, seems like you suffer a 16:9 monitor though < 1378490481 585004 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What do you suggest? =P < 1378490484 802143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do people actually work on their desktop computers at offices? < 1378490488 82263 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, 16:10 < 1378490491 972378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used my tiny laptop/almost a netbook < 1378490501 271018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least partly because it was outside the firewall < 1378490507 314539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus no real risk if I messed up < 1378490509 100383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, we have laptops in mostly permanent docking stations at work < 1378490522 962645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I do. Few people use laptops here. < 1378490526 578895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that mostly defeats the point of a laptop < 1378490552 219731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, They are pretty useless outside of those docks, since they use 180 W PSUs to run at max speed. Battery time is abyssmal. But they are really good when compiling code. Top end quad core i7s < 1378490557 377565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I carry my laptop pretty much everywhere < 1378490558 773721 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378490561 936808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And massive SSDs inside < 1378490573 634424 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as much RAM as you can fit in them. < 1378490579 742469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the battery time on this is just about sufficient to boot it and enter your password < 1378490582 451393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mine has 12 GB RAM < 1378490584 245968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's several years old < 1378490593 415419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be like 8 hours, but modern batteries lose duration so quickly < 1378490618 640421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: sorry, stuck with a hairy XML problem here. < 1378490634 647108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway I couldn't work on a laptop, too small screen. I regluarly use 2 external 24" 16:10 monitors + the built in laptop 16:9 monitors for various windows < 1378490636 798305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Shave it? < 1378490652 261412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really would like to, but my SO wont let me near any blade. < 1378490669 925655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I can fit two 80-column programs side by side on this screen < 1378490673 550375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is big enough for me < 1378490679 379192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on occasion sometimes I'll split it into 4 < 1378490682 930637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both vertically and horizontally < 1378490683 506033 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough for me. < 1378490693 892238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: but yeah, dropbox.com → dossier Public → clic droit sur l'image → Copier le lien public. < 1378490701 18158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: what, 80 columns or 4 programs? < 1378490754 122183 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, need an entire monitor to run the various component simulations, since I develop for a distributed embedded system, with like 4 units having monitors on their own, plus a window for the operator panel with the levers and what not. And a window with the IO module simulator < 1378490775 607948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of simulated CAN buses there < 1378490777 474235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does a simulation need a monitor at all? < 1378490782 281800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is confused
< 1378490805 273305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, if you want to mess with the GUI the users see. It is a control system for mining equipment. And there are several screens in the real machine. < 1378490809 823837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1378490821 737465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, developing GUIs is a decent reason to have a larger monitor than everyone else < 1378490826 788831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have their monitor + other things < 1378490834 810926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, this is a reason for everyone else to have small monitors < 1378490837 637699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise that couldn't be posible < 1378490886 100991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, plus there is the manging client used in the control room or mine office and the coordination server for remote allocation (and some system configuration), but I can't have non-overlapping windows if I have *everything* open. < 1378490903 784699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hopes that "manging" is a typo for "mangling" rather than "managing"
< 1378490933 471200 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, the latter alas. It just shows where all the units are on a map, and how much fuel and so on they have < 1378490941 298556 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where in the drill plans they are < 1378490968 507098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, since each application also opens a 80x25 terminal window for the log/debug output, the screens fills quickly < 1378491024 31272 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :We use a autohotkey script to move all the windows around after starting the simulation. I hate autohotkeys syntax with a passion. < 1378491030 424814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :autohotkey's* < 1378491075 105689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is beginning to sound increasingly WTF over time < 1378491089 544118 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378491090 39680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one really good thing about working for a CS department < 1378491105 46784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the sysadmins / computer technicians (they're the same people there) are really really good at their jobs < 1378491112 351683 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1378491112 889150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if they weren't, everyone would call them on it < 1378491136 467943 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a CS lab i actually managed to print a document to a physical printer < 1378491138 791116 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :triumph, imo < 1378491142 556487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up having to need a kernel with custom configuration for a marking script, we explained the problem and they created a VM with a suitably configured kernel < 1378491148 331052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same filesystems as everything else < 1378491158 708330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: at our lab, that'd have something like a 50% chance of working < 1378491161 590447 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Anyway autohotkey is an a quite reasonable option for moving windows around on Windows. Because afaik there is no other good option for doing that when you press a key combo < 1378491167 387148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it was mostly me who ended up refilling the printers in practice < 1378491170 462544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I printed so many handouts < 1378491189 639428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes, I'm just more amused that the situation became necessary in the first place < 1378491197 938469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice to just pipe all the terminal output into a monitoring program, for instance < 1378491206 306094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that presents it appropriately < 1378491246 539468 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, true, that would be nice. Not sure it would be doable under windows though < 1378491264 148910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I was working with Windows console programming recently < 1378491267 690140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my verdict is, "no idea" < 1378491279 650419 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway windows opens windows (pun not intended) in terrible positions by default. < 1378491285 586505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's not even a pun < 1378491288 787224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what the OS is named after < 1378491295 315041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1378491297 91506 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 50% is more than the usual rate. time before that i tried to print something i had to download drivers. and install via a sh. < 1378491302 287904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably a bad idea because the existence of X means that they can't trademark it < 1378491314 112067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we wouldn't have enough perms to do that < 1378491321 361075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual printing system worked fine < 1378491324 427047 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my personal computer, i mean < 1378491327 55524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the queues had a tendency to just get stuck < 1378491328 536440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh < 1378491341 631673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd do that via print to PDF + scp + ssh to send it to the printer < 1378491345 28374 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have a pretty cool printer system at work. You just print to the "Print Anywhere" device, then go to a printer and swipe your RFID door key thingy < 1378491347 552142 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, well, that sucks. < 1378491351 458616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you get a list of your printer queue < 1378491359 729575 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And can select to print whatever < 1378491360 665429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was talking about from the labs themselves < 1378491375 979882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's very rare I needed to print anything other than handouts for students and marksheets < 1378491384 773067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those could most easily be printed in the lab anyway < 1378491401 363510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least partly to stop people stealing them before I had a chance to collect them from the printer) < 1378491411 248459 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you know what's weird? the way we have a desktop metaphor and then cover our desktops in windows < 1378491415 476632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is unlikely but I took data protection seriosuly, especially when marks are involved) < 1378491458 397032 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i have a physical desk, and there are hardly any windows on it at all. < 1378491466 168121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, where do you work now? < 1378491477 856720 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, XD < 1378491484 269256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: currently I'm finishing up a PhD, so at home < 1378491486 134977 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe back in the 60s there was a fad of desks made of glass < 1378491489 945305 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the only logical explanation < 1378491490 750221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah < 1378491505 933130 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of system of wheels to move glass around the surface < 1378491507 155995 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I have seen living room tables made of glass < 1378491533 152804 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well the surface that is, usually not the legs < 1378491545 60533 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the desktop metaphor that would be having your desktop background be a view into your CRT or some shit (back when we used crts) < 1378491547 414041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that would be cool and probably dangerous < 1378491581 404183 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man. remember crts? < 1378491582 873848 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck crts. < 1378491583 619631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378491589 493937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate them with a passion < 1378491602 368014 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is something with an "electron gun" so damn inconvenient. < 1378491606 560293 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never really sharp, always slightly blurry and headache inducing < 1378491618 590775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had an electron gun i'd just shoot it all the time < 1378491634 365568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good CRTs actually have better image quality than good LCDs < 1378491639 118087 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I had an electron gun, I'd make myself instant hot-dogs. < 1378491641 164039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people preferred LCDs because they took up less space < 1378491641 600851 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it isn't called a "gun" in Swedish. We use the terms "anod" and "katod" < 1378491652 306251 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my grocery clerk? a professor? someone asking me out on a date? BAM electrongun'd. < 1378491652 789692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm not sure if you can cook a hot dog effectively with beta-radiation < 1378491652 934953 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure they are used in English as well < 1378491663 978260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "anode", "cathode" < 1378491666 415794 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anode and cath- yeah. < 1378491673 278836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cooking it effectively is not the point. < 1378491676 703840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :technical terms for referring to electrodes at particular voltages < 1378491687 85902 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that depends on the quality of the LCD I would say. IPS panels can be pretty damn good < 1378491687 701921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(irradiating hot-dog sausages, otoh... :D) < 1378491706 211486 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I moved over to IPS at home after getting used to it at work < 1378491772 188120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: would you electron-gun iverum < 1378491778 298171 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can heartily recommend Dell UltraSharp U2413 btw. Dell UltraSharp U2412M is a bit cheaper (mostly due to the fact that it is sRGB instead of wide gamut) but still really good < 1378491786 950834 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you /and/ him, babe < 1378491803 917904 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds painful :< < 1378491826 617401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: anyway we wouldn't use "anode"/"cathode" to talk about an electron gun generally in English; it'd be like casually describing a computer by what sort of motherboard it used < 1378491837 385537 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think electron guns actually do anything to people < 1378491860 23376 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm I guess there is the term "elektronstrålerör" now that I think about it. Which would be "electron beam tube" < 1378491891 133241 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even electron ray tube < 1378491896 92159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :both translations work < 1378491905 115789 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, electrons are like, small,, man. < 1378491963 780720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: beta rays are actually pretty dangerous < 1378491972 885750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly via corrupting DNA < 1378491975 757364 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly < 1378491988 974775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ok, i'll shoot him first to make sure it's safe. < 1378492006 749052 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beta particles don't sound very safe < 1378492013 100864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, alpha/beta/gamma rays are all dangerous; alpha are the most damaging if they get inside the body, but also get stopped very easily < 1378492031 45356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, even a piece of paper gives pretty good shielding from alpha rays < 1378492048 833838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so beta are the most dangerous if you're near the source, and gamma from a long distance < 1378492071 914913 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about neutrons? < 1378492082 205733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you pointed an alpha ray directly at an open wound, but don't do that < 1378492084 351888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know < 1378492084 614589 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As happens in a chain reaction with uranium and such < 1378492098 4631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that radiation even called? < 1378492102 801394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that there are people who know how dangerous they are, but I'm not one of them < 1378492201 988946 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutrons are just called neutrons I thikn < 1378492208 174822 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378492218 507733 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unlike the others there are different kinds iirc < 1378492221 77308 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo zeta rays. < 1378492227 65655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh? < 1378492254 705646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only one sort of neutron AFAIK < 1378492266 682369 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but they can have different energies < 1378492267 687313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there are antineutrons too but they tend not to exist very much < 1378492278 401220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, in that case, there are different kinds of gamma ray too < 1378492281 92522 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, way to be discriminatory ais. < 1378492284 128483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess alpha, beta and gamma are all pretty constrained by the nuclear processes that emit them < 1378492307 387708 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1378492313 282493 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1378492319 55307 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't neutrons have differente spin or some shit < 1378492323 111795 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all these particles fuckcing spin < 1378492331 880648 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that doesn't matter < 1378492336 120396 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378492350 696032 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaik the interactions that lead to alpha/beta decay have fairly strict requirements < 1378492359 383996 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, most alpha particles have around the same energy < 1378492396 601261 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an isotope of tantalum which should in theory be ridiculously unstable, but because of this bizarre convergence of different effects is very very stable < 1378492403 954473 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ta-180m~ < 1378492415 875629 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you i loved it first < 1378492416 58271 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck is tantalum even for < 1378492416 204249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love those weird cool isotopes like that < 1378492425 572542 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, capacitors hth < 1378492434 447926 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god fuck capacitors < 1378492443 546580 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1378492454 456178 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k, i <3 capacitance. < 1378492463 780115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: was that during your metallurgy hipster phase < 1378492484 559865 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like, the reason that technetium doesn't have any stable isotopes < 1378492489 334121 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the be8/c12 resnoance < 1378492491 747030 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or halo nuclei < 1378492494 919716 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm really into niobium, you've probably never heard of it, etc < 1378492498 385989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nuclear physics is so wonderful) < 1378492520 323238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there are such things as element hipsters? < 1378492529 967286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, *elliott: < 1378492545 168019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I have more scrollback than Vorpal but I read it backwards < 1378492548 768915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can get a little out of context sometimes < 1378492557 129629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: could you voice me? elliott is being a mathematician today. < 1378492560 585107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have 1000 lines per channel iir < 1378492562 61002 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc* < 1378492598 431667 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lanthanides are way better displayed on vinyl < 1378492606 32893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you not aware that "Vorpal has no scrollback" is a #esoteric meme? < 1378492617 101467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Not Authorized to Perform this Operatiön < 1378492650 640931 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Öperation < 1378492661 870346 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I am, but I'm ignoring it < 1378492663 887990 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Öpërätïön < 1378492665 812493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: right < 1378492678 94848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anyway the reason for me is probably reading it from the end and upwards too < 1378492679 152874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ask HackEgo < 1378492685 846397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to do that < 1378492691 910780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: VOICE! NOW! < 1378492695 282026 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: pretty please. < 1378492705 636761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why do you want voice so much anyway? < 1378492724 757865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: equilibrium of the forces. and I'm jealous of Roujo's status :D < 1378492730 900111 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should download irssi into hackego and have it join. it will, of course, be opped < 1378492752 507597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think hackego knows its own IRC password < 1378492760 676128 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's deep. < 1378492810 923761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in much the same way that programs are normally unaware of their own source coe < 1378492814 533683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except in the case of Feather) < 1378492824 144019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also Snowflake tells programs what their own source code is < 1378492841 690134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't actually required, ofc – you could just write everything as quines – but they tend to need to know so that they can repair it < 1378492841 931050 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about kleene's theorem.................. < 1378492872 291051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote feather < 1378492873 897665 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :871) -!- ais523 has parted #esoteric ("someone is going to mention Feather, I know it"). \ 872) i don't even know anything about feather and i'm getting sick of the time travel jokes \ 902) in Smalltalk, as in Feather, in order to do I/O, you must first create the universe ais523, it seems quite capable of I/O... GUI is a fo < 1378492879 739700 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does Roujo have voice anyway? < 1378492888 188926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he asked for it < 1378492889 977317 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Canadian Cup, 2013 < 1378492891 245109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1378492894 81007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1378492895 654323 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1378492897 108084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes did! < 1378492897 364185 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :who did < 1378492901 175083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's boily who asked for it < 1378492905 304088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He might have < 1378492927 486608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know is that I got voice while commenting the race < 1378492934 386461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with boily < 1378493006 63863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… what might be interesting would be an IRC flag/permission-like thing < 1378493020 546176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does nothing at all, except allow you to turn it on and off on other people < 1378493026 150193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be an interesting exercise in social dynamics < 1378493026 925458 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be awesome < 1378493051 633771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over on SlashNET, there's a channel where anyone that gets in gets ops < 1378493070 228204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just have to join it, and you get ops < 1378493071 758167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck slashnet < 1378493071 985294 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SlashNET is a medium-sized, independently operated Internet Relay Chat (IRC) network. < 1378493083 766163 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also an interesting social experiment < 1378493087 428660 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is slashnet one of those anti-serv places < 1378493095 718001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you heretic. there is one network, and the network is Freenode. < 1378493098 682373 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, Services are there < 1378493103 941357 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1378493104 741547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: heh; I remember the terms and conditions for quakenet < 1378493123 551857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which pretty much explicitly say "don't do that, are you idiots, if you op everyone in your channel we refuse to help if someone screws it up (which they will)" < 1378493127 346175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they don't use the same language < 1378493133 884932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378493144 876914 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've yet to see anyone abuse the op powers < 1378493163 704758 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is impressive, imo < 1378493170 469969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on which networks you go to < 1378493172 484579 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378493184 298760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been on the receiving end of op abuse in other channels before now < 1378493184 860592 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the everyone-is-an-op channel, I mean < 1378493203 431868 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got k/b'd from other channels for no reason before =P < 1378493206 755719 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "no reason" < 1378493208 388677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my normal technique for dealing with it is to avoid the channel for a long time in order to worry people into thinking that I was seriously offended < 1378493212 528410 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) "I thought you were someone else" < 1378493218 490084 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) "I don't know you, so get out" < 1378493223 648847 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378493225 797607 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially in channels where the vast majority of people have autojoin, and joke kicks are comon < 1378493227 741960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*common < 1378493230 422523 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378493240 585914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 2), it's called setting invite-only (or channel key) < 1378493243 190724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) is understandable though < 1378493260 972179 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah =P < 1378493265 668672 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just pretty random < 1378493268 562286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I just got in < 1378493291 340161 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was about an old community I was a part of, so I was catching up, talking to people < 1378493308 23142 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then some op came back, saw that I was called Skynet, panicked and k/b'd me < 1378493338 785461 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrified of the terminator menace < 1378493363 888673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my point of view: if Skynet really does become reality and start taking over the Internet (and then the whole world by proxy) < 1378493374 621416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it actually thinks it's safe for it to use its real name, we're probably screwed no matter what < 1378493378 38680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no point in worrying about it < 1378493450 581164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point < 1378493478 852998 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess we're going to have to travel back in time to tell the op this. < 1378493482 186552 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We were talking about how I became Skynet just yesterday < 1378493507 877327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you suggested that I /nick Skynet to scare Darth_Cliche, back when I played BlogNomic < 1378493516 888067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I'd mostly forgotten that < 1378493524 116428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that blognomicbot would show "Players watching the game: Skynet" < 1378493537 890900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I caused enough controversy when I started using callforjudgement on blognomic IRC, before I was a player < 1378493540 763259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :callforjudgement < 1378493545 491186 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :She didn't remember it at all, either =P < 1378493551 877209 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blognomic controversy < 1378493553 927619 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nick stuck, but I'm not allowed to use it for nomic any more < 1378493567 437178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember, though. She came in and, again, k/b'd me. =P < 1378493583 914968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck blognomic < 1378493584 234380 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: support applications for various blognomic dynasties (Python). < 1378493584 379641 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind the fact that I had ops, so I was (probably) a known player =P < 1378493585 764745 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh < 1378493591 326762 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378493599 174355 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://blognomic.com/ < 1378493601 212621 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks DDG in the self-referential definitions
< 1378493609 167900 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378493617 565293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378493625 615502 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blognomic's the gateway nomic for addicting people to nomic < 1378493629 459861 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1378493643 245046 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, because a) it's easy to play, and b) it's fun the first few dynasties < 1378493645 990122 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it gets repetitive < 1378493657 344631 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : I caused enough controversy when I started using callforjudgement on blognomic IRC, before I was a player <-- what does that do? < 1378493665 952998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried nomic once with my bro and another guy (or girl, or human. probably human). it was... politico-confuzzling. < 1378493666 376094 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or your win gets papered over and you resent the game forever < 1378493684 187237 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Call for Judgement, or CFJ, is an in-game term < 1378493688 536996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes the nick confusing =P < 1378493689 986567 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in Nomic, a call for judgement is what happens when there's a dispute about the rules and they want someone to resolve it < 1378493702 746682 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, in BlogNomic specifically, they felt it'd be useful for people to make anonymous CFJs < 1378493705 222672 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We should play together one day. < 1378493717 242919 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they didn't give away secret information < 1378493717 928815 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, I played Nomic with Pouti for quite some time < 1378493719 905256 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement, heh < 1378493744 247094 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the standard example was in a Werewolf/Mafia game; if one of the Mafia felt that something was unfair to their team, they couldn't exactly bring up the point publicly) < 1378493750 587708 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378493762 216187 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, they had a user account, "callforjudgment" (US spelling), for the purpose of making them, that anyone could use < 1378493776 383645 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone (possibly multiple people) started trolling via it, so it got deactivated < 1378493780 749200 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I thought it'd be funny to use on IRC < 1378493794 357102 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to show that I was anonymous < 1378493802 465574 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I didn't notice the spelling difference, so I did it with UK spelling < 1378493821 934258 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1378493825 268298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :CallForJudgement < 1378493827 454243 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fixes caps
< 1378493842 478968 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, things lead to other things, and it's probably my primary nick now < 1378493935 262501 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, really? < 1378493937 152597 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1378493942 839332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there's the OUMF going on. retrogaming night today! < 1378493947 707759 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less taken on average than "ais523" < 1378493949 520775 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one thing < 1378493964 532017 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which, as is well-known by now, was randomly generated by the University's computer system) < 1378494023 407018 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also "scarf", but mostly just because I noticed it wasn't taken < 1378494069 287943 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378494079 378658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What's that? =) < 1378494098 547923 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378494120 618449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: one of Montréal's multiple mini-festivals. art émergent, random stuff, random people, random randomity. < 1378494133 950861 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378494137 825914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oumf.ca/ < 1378494151 432717 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /dev/random >> OUMF < 1378494214 628765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378494224 669965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool < 1378494282 366742 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378494282 647751 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's less taken on average than "ais523" <-- really? I wouldn't imagine it was used a lot < 1378494316 741935 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: three-letters three-numbers will be taken by some people just by chance < 1378494325 338272 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $((26*26*26*1000)) < 1378494326 600904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :17576000 < 1378494335 545718 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not so big, given the number of users of the Internet < 1378494352 532014 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378494356 992653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, but far from everyone will take one of those < 1378494360 356581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome solidoodlesuppor < 1378494363 347408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02solidoo09dle03s08upp03or: 11Welcome to the intern11ational hub for eso08te12ri08c06 programmi12ng l09a04nguage design a05nd03 deployment! 13For more information, check o14ut our wiki: http://eso04l13angs.or05g/w05iki/Main_P12age. (For11 the other kind of esote10ri13ca, tr11y #esoteri09c o11n irc.10dal.n07et.) < 1378494382 471863 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and a good thing too, they'd all be taken already if they did < 1378494402 204772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Well yeah. =P < 1378494450 996612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: good to see I'm not the only one trying to autocomplete on mkdir. < 1378494457 878346 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reformatting your quotes, btw. hth.) < 1378494485 187907 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ais523 < 1378494491 153903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9162 < 1378494544 439003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only those that match /<[^[:alpha:]]*ais523[^[:alpha:]]*>/ < 1378494578 589848 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may as well read them all anyway < 1378494619 314445 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have missed the USB sushi antediluvian craze... < 1378494752 881502 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I saw it advertised once < 1378494758 732788 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure exactly what it was, because I didn't buy it < 1378494828 288953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, your quotes are ready. you can peruse the PDF. < 1378494994 962467 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we need a Snowflake-related quote in the qdb < 1378495005 587511 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I can mark the passage of qdb times by the esolangs being discussed < 1378495027 505460 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick someone say something funny about snowflake < 1378495036 54083 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm surprised that so long has gone since Radixal!!!!) < 1378495047 396481 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 825 < 1378495103 47614 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think I have a good definition for what makes a good esolang < 1378495106 72516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why a snowflake? what is Radixal? < 1378495113 936850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval primeFactors 825 < 1378495114 868716 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3,5,5,11] < 1378495127 320927 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a language which, at the point in time at which it was created, cannot be programmed in using programming techniques that already exist < 1378495134 420698 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, brainfuck was a good esolang when created < 1378495146 929285 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but BF derviatives are not good esolangs, because techniques for BF are well known now < 1378495196 534098 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do esolangs ever get used for legit cryptography? < 1378495203 727605 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like you hide something fun in a cook book program < 1378495204 177332 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it < 1378495215 206298 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs mostly exist to make things hard to understand on the surface < 1378495228 864220 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake uses kittens to reverse stack polarity. < 1378495232 337000 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas nowadays, legit cryptography is about being mathematically unbreakable even if you know what you're doing < 1378495238 640879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's enough to make it a good esolang in my book. < 1378495270 536731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, few people even read my book. < 1378495273 111266 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh =P < 1378495297 698646 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone do esolangs for a living? < 1378495300 416761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: Good enough of a quote for you? < 1378495301 986509 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like such a strange place < 1378495314 154715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidoodlesuppor: Does VB count? < 1378495319 432597 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAH < 1378495324 611698 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: :) < 1378495325 788934 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about PHP? < 1378495339 525469 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, PHP. Qualifies since there's still no known good programming technique to use. < 1378495340 353633 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidoodlesuppor: there was exactly one instance where an esolang made commercial success < 1378495342 222562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: we're talking programming. < 1378495344 946628 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it… biota? < 1378495348 242343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :() < 1378495352 83089 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got designed for a purpose, then solved < 1378495355 67593 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, sold < 1378495356 940151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: also, your quotes were reformatted. < 1378495361 599077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1378495362 586752 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's for fun or for reasearch, though < 1378495368 273969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sold for a net profit in 1991" < 1378495369 128875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Taneb < 1378495369 556830 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1378495370 714522 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :389) Turned out he got recursion, he just didn't get the return statement \ 395) Cut to February War were declared A galaxy in turmoil Anyway, Febuary '10 \ 396) I can't afford one of those! A grandchild, not a laser printer \ 402) There's that saying that the definition of insani < 1378495373 228959 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also arguably the $25,000 I won from Wolfram Research was esolanging < 1378495393 269139 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: You won 25k from them? Awesome! =D < 1378495401 576212 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think part of the reason I got there first is that people were trying to see it as a maths/CS problem < 1378495406 56348 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than an esoprogramming problem < 1378495407 895994 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like you could write a nasty computer virus in biota < 1378495416 282503 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(understandable, because most people don't know what esoprogramming is) < 1378495417 255195 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rewards for propping up wolfram's ego are great < 1378495435 897408 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well I kind-of fell out with him < 1378495445 694923 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as are the costs < 1378495451 591961 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you fall out < 1378495478 781658 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because he seemed to consider the entire problem as a yes or no thing < 1378495479 835411 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, I thought you were a newb! I have not been paying attention < 1378495485 361917 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it's much more nuanced than that < 1378495493 67610 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not enough to know my alternative nick, indeed < 1378495503 269289 :k_k_k!~kcd@118.99.76.34 QUIT : < 1378495509 887057 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't been here for weeks < 1378495513 115746 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm probably a newb anyway :) < 1378495524 623614 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never seen you use that nick before < 1378495535 531411 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so this is the wrapper controversy < 1378495538 737714 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use it on Freenode much < 1378495546 657309 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: nah, the controversy happened ages ago < 1378495558 80105 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not annoyed at the controversy, I'm annoyed at Wolfram for not even noticing its existence < 1378495567 856207 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what i meant < 1378495568 733433 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for thinking that something that runs in O(2^2^n) might be viable < 1378495585 726346 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that computational class is too high for most people to comprehend < 1378495590 466171 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, by the end of the month I'll be attending the University of York < 1378495598 933222 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that relevant somehow? < 1378495602 580968 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1378495605 955166 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1378495608 612133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just thought you may have missed it < 1378495611 350809 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1378495622 591794 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always important to know whether there's anyone of importance in hexham or not < 1378495633 805073 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're in york, there's only a need to figure it out wrt elliott < 1378495657 161241 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you, as a former student, give me studency advice? < 1378495689 810894 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I was really bad at anything but the academic stuff < 1378495700 729482 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I somehow managed to miss Fresher's Week altogether < 1378495712 302427 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we didn't even have fresher's week in warwick < 1378495713 644924 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basically just stayed independent of everyone for like a year, it was pretty boring < 1378495717 769822 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did wolfram do wrong? < 1378495719 342885 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is list < 1378495719 488025 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was folded into the normal first week < 1378495722 66630 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lost < 1378495722 618732 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I filled in the time by learning INTERCAL < 1378495739 622754 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also explains why the early ais523 era of C-INTERCAL was developed on SunOS < 1378495748 510582 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also decided to learn UNIX at the same time < 1378495843 597408 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidoodlesuppor, basically, CallForJudgement proved a very small system (that Wolfram was interested in) Turing-complete under the assumption that the tape started as some easily computable sequence < 1378495857 135784 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well, "easily" is relative < 1378495882 47738 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :solidoodlesuppor, and some people, Wolfram included, didn't like that very much < 1378495893 61470 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I heard he can be that way... < 1378495919 673968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, CallForJudgement: Is there anywhere I could read about this? < 1378495923 308763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds interesting < 1378495937 492223 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfram's_2-state_3-symbol_Turing_machine#Proof_of_universality < 1378495948 821731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframscience.com/prizes/tm23/images/prizeAnnouncement.png < 1378495949 585202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot < 1378495954 203486 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram Science have their own page about it < 1378495959 580128 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well < 1378495963 916329 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's pretty neutral on the subject, though < 1378495969 697851 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is impressive given how polarized the sides got < 1378495977 537928 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stayed entirely out of it myself (mostly just watched, or ignored it) < 1378495979 951317 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Wikipedia, that is < 1378495986 282191 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there was systematic vandalism there for a while < 1378496004 301232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : also for thinking that something that runs in O(2^2^n) might be viable <-- wtf? He thought that was viable? I guess for very very small n < 1378496006 291950 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, this probably explains why the universality thing has 12 citaitons < 1378496007 792308 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*citations < 1378496022 940083 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think he thought that was viable; rather, he just didn't think of checking the computational class at all < 1378496029 862353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1378496043 617084 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's at least one fallacious proof in ANKOS because he ignored the initialization requirements of the rule 110 proof < 1378496065 989735 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is ANKOS? < 1378496071 994805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ankos < 1378496072 333954 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A New Kind of Science is a best-selling, controversial book by Stephen Wolfram, published in 2002. < 1378496083 336419 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1378496114 324869 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is, I fixed it in my head < 1378496117 971644 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :told him about it over the phone < 1378496121 705872 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have never publicly released the fix < 1378496124 110252 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I like things that way < 1378496194 206532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1378496194 745296 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, as a Canadian, can you give me studency tips? < 1378496200 609990 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Studency? < 1378496208 825670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The state of being a student < 1378496209 976328 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being-a-student-ness, I guess < 1378496213 350880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378496215 267749 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1378496218 120334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1378496224 841348 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a student anymore, mind you < 1378496237 472922 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even when I was... I tended to not follow proper studency < 1378496248 289456 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't do homework, didn't really study... =/ < 1378496263 84757 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is your advice gonna be "don't do what I did"? < 1378496263 287445 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm not sure any advice of mine would be worth much < 1378496267 722703 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1378496271 546627 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1378496293 329975 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my advice: "Never stop being curious." < 1378496301 163027 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is good advice < 1378496326 772565 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, as someone who probably was a student but I cannot actually remember, can you give me studency tips? < 1378496328 610826 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit... lazy at times. But this is what saved me. < 1378496329 690691 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: How did you get your nick indented....? < 1378496339 947047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indented? < 1378496342 156333 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's at least one fallacious proof in ANKOS because he ignored the initialization requirements of the rule 110 proof < 1378496344 944623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :details, ais < 1378496345 481722 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did? < 1378496346 393452 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :details < 1378496368 386178 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: he produced a turing machine (2,5 I think) which, when run on an empty tape, produces the pattern that rule 110 produces on an empty tape < 1378496373 4329 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and claimed that the turing machine is TC < 1378496377 95896 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, but that doesn't prove it < 1378496387 619406 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, hm, find friends early who are interested in studies rather than living the student life I guess. If that is what you want. < 1378496412 760535 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found friends eventually, and got on well with them, for academic project purposes < 1378496416 740332 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, not really sure what kind of tips you want < 1378496421 195291 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we went and collaborated to subvert the group project marking system < 1378496444 604507 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, mainly I'm just a bit nervous because it's a big change for me < 1378496447 960811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, I'm playing paper & pen roll playing with a couple of them nowdays even after university. < 1378496464 682123 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, about being a student... Yeah, friend are important. Surround yourself with people you want to be like, it helps to soak up their interest/intensity like a sponge. =) < 1378496475 627244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, And we usually meet up a couple of times every year for a dinner or such. < 1378496479 368951 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't worry too much about getting it right first time < 1378496491 771582 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :universities aren't like schools where you're stuck with the same few people forever < 1378496506 73459 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, learn LaTeX if you don't already know it. You might not need it at the start, but it will get invaluable pretty soon < 1378496508 333090 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Being around people who do studies-related stuff for fun is a good way to make the studies themselves fun < 1378496533 654488 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1378496554 862758 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oh yes, good advice < 1378496559 295656 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it can be put off several years < 1378496576 162896 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, we are using a custom rule system, one of us (not me) is a rule set collector and nerd, so he made his own system instead of using an existing one. It works pretty well from what I can tell. < 1378496611 325703 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378496624 339903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, I had good use of it in the second half of the second year and from that point onwards I would say < 1378496637 351989 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is CallForJudgement still ais < 1378496649 988296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, no, he evolved < 1378496650 788409 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: from my point of view it was pointless because everyone else used Word even when we specifically told them not to < 1378496653 960711 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1378496666 936557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering if someone else is nicked callforjudgment as a joke before i ask ais a question < 1378496669 233018 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look! ais523 is evolving. He is turning into a CallForJudgement. < 1378496689 396523 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to merge nine separate files, eight of which were Word files, in order to write a report < 1378496691 860612 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :under huge time pressure < 1378496692 95565 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry I never played much pokemon, I don't remember how the wording goes) < 1378496704 264503 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, ouch < 1378496707 680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't played pokemon in years. you know why? because i'm not a NERRRRRD < 1378496726 667734 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way I did it was to tell people to stop editing for a while, then run the Word-generated HTML through Tidy, then open it in Emacs and run a bunch of regexes on it interactively < 1378496730 452654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I only ever played one game, and in an emulator < 1378496738 223731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never owned any handheld, or any console < 1378496743 131893 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez < 1378496748 460507 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i at least played on a Real Console < 1378496748 976853 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I qualified for the Pokémon World Championships in 2011 via coming top 8 in the UK < 1378496752 868705 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, holy crap < 1378496767 189734 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how did you not know this? I think I've mentioned it in-channel before < 1378496768 797847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything ais can't do < 1378496776 485953 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: qualify in 2013, apparently < 1378496777 694119 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, no I meant the Tidy stuff < 1378496781 976327 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :point < 1378496785 624770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, that is what I went "holy crap" at < 1378496786 51650 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm going to ask my question < 1378496798 592379 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Tidy has a command line option specifically for cleaning up some of the worst excesses of Word < 1378496802 953472 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is just, you do cool hardware stuff, i'm in babby's first hardware class, do you have any suggestions for what to attempt to do with my fpga < 1378496818 242048 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, anyway < 1378496827 134110 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Eat it. < 1378496827 336467 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the hello world for an FPGA (or similar hardware things) is to toggle one of the GPIOs between 0 and 1 every second < 1378496829 755968 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FPGA is food. < 1378496832 108663 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used LyX mostly, and for stuff I was the only person working on < 1378496840 343591 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, i haven't done anything with the clock yet < 1378496843 159685 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never had to work on stuff with 8 people editing at the same time < 1378496858 556839 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my most advanced design so far is something that turns off a different ssd based on which button is pressed. < 1378496860 402321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, thought it was every half second? < 1378496866 387213 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: FPGAs suck at asynchronous, you probably want to use the clock < 1378496869 264171 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tbf I doubt it matters < 1378496870 567946 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i read an article on anosmia in birds the other day and thought of you. < 1378496875 125967 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like whether you put the comma in the hello world or not < 1378496881 246295 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: yeah, i meant, i haven't done anything complicated enough to warrant a clock :/ < 1378496903 261842 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping for my next thing i could have the ssds display the number input on the switches in base four < 1378496903 446130 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, but that is hugely important! < 1378496906 454623 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I feel a bit conflicted here because I had an argument with my PhD supervisor yesterday < 1378496910 910382 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires clock because of the way the ssds are muxed < 1378496913 10936 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: oh? < 1378496923 994816 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where he was claiming that I should abandon talking about asynchronous hardware because it wouldn't run on our FPGA < 1378496931 817276 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet it's a more natural fit for the mathematical model < 1378496935 987554 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1378496948 379146 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, the problem is that all the existing formalisms of delay-insensitive asynchronous hardware suck) < 1378496948 804217 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm interested in clockless stuff, but it's a pretty abstract interest given my level of capability < 1378496953 956066 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, there isn't much async hardware though, is there? < 1378496955 413967 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so am I < 1378496957 424990 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1378496962 11066 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's OK, this is /theoretical/ computer science < 1378496969 715613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right except you're, like, a phd candidate, you know more9 things than i do < 1378496996 611967 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, I mean in a computer. Apart from some stuff dealing with races between different clocks and such, and IO, all the computation in a normal computer happens sync mostly, right? < 1378496999 315965 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now i just need to do my homework which is "how much current is running through the wire in this circuit" and shit like that. v. basic < 1378497012 395695 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell itidus19 your quotes are formatted. check the /topic PDF. you are an \ldots{} abuser. < 1378497012 540828 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378497016 348649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell itidus20 your quotes are formatted. check the /topic PDF. you are an \ldots{} abuser. < 1378497016 494541 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378497017 583802 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes; the only even vaguely async stuff is on the buses < 1378497020 2213 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell itidus21 your quotes are formatted. check the /topic PDF. you are an \ldots{} abuser. < 1378497020 147614 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378497023 598986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell itidus22 your quotes are formatted. check the /topic PDF. you are an \ldots{} abuser. < 1378497023 744624 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378497033 438629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have the itiduses covered. < 1378497035 63885 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's trying to match different clocks < 1378497041 282620 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who all qualifies for quote formatting < 1378497042 374102 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is impossible without dropping to async somewhere < 1378497043 24721 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw Taneb don't worry, you cannot possibly be worse-prepared for studenting than me and i managed ok < 1378497044 723202 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, right, what about interrupts? < 1378497052 103752 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: only itidi. < 1378497056 398548 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: they don't work until the next clock cycle < 1378497059 579331 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, this sounds like there are a fair few interesting anecdotes < 1378497060 888047 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah right < 1378497068 370240 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is unsurprising, given that computers can't run instructions between clock cycles anyway < 1378497077 642706 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: like hungarian soup, I conflagrated them. < 1378497089 583357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow! i seriously forgot my pen. wow. can't do shit now. nobody has a pen in an EE building. < 1378497116 646107 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, arguably they do in the sense that an instruction can be split over several cycles or several instructions can execute in one? < 1378497121 903232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, don't buses themselves usually have clocks btw? < 1378497124 247978 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, not really, i just had very little experience living alone when i left and i adapted pretty quickly to it < 1378497137 235230 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, okay < 1378497144 192983 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, anyway is the benefit of async hardware worth it? < 1378497157 622267 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have no idea < 1378497163 351847 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i'm partly interested in async because ~brainz~ < 1378497167 473561 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem with theoretical designs < 1378497173 847229 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a biologist thing < 1378497174 62266 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, it runs faster on average < 1378497179 320976 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: maybe............. < 1378497181 140817 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because synchronous hardware runs at worst-case speed < 1378497188 68123 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and asynchronous hardware at average-case on average < 1378497197 943608 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember reading about a MIPS CPU that was async < 1378497200 980636 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the circuits are more complex, meaning that it often isn't worth it in practice < 1378497203 511708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an experiment < 1378497220 56573 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are things in the nervous system that are vaguely clock-like in that they send out periodic signals independently of stimulation, but it's a pretty shallow analogy. < 1378497237 307357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is important for e.g. walking without falling flat on your face and dying. < 1378497284 405397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378497285 723544 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378497287 231373 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1378497335 310357 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a postgrad at York doing something with chemical computers and async operation < 1378497336 291077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1378497347 630376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemical computers are cool too. < 1378497362 9586 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kind of like weird-ass computers. if only there was a place to congregate, etc < 1378497416 411987 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm actually writing a paper about asynchronous circuits atm < 1378497417 804729 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :international weird-ass computers conference < 1378497442 483669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my LaTeX linter is weird. it seems to ignore kmc... < 1378497447 119558 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mock me mnyoqyty < 1378497673 203208 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 726 < 1378497674 739108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :726) and then I spent much of the rest of the time trying to work out how to implement 3D Hashlife efficiently when at least one of the colors has free will < 1378497678 990376 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any advice on this yet? < 1378497689 629086 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :define free will < 1378497695 747679 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :define 3d hashlife < 1378497713 4660 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashlife on 3d moore CAs? < 1378497720 296518 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :define implement < 1378497731 483783 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: basically that the rules involving that color can change at runtime in response to user input < 1378497734 211599 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : this is important for e.g. walking without falling flat on your face and dying. < 1378497749 159921 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tutor specialises in walking without falling flat on your face and dying! < 1378497761 719138 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he studied insects but you get the drift < 1378497770 151854 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :insects have faces too < 1378497772 316051 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's cool. < 1378497794 182600 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i specialized in walking without falling flat on your face and dying < 1378497812 179988 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically(?) he walks with a cane < 1378497816 858750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: well the one hashlife concept works regardless, doesn't it? as long as you maintain a speed of light. you'd just have to mark blocks as hving to be recomputed < 1378497819 556002 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that's his major breakthrough < 1378497824 645949 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "ironically, he walks with six canes" < 1378497830 554634 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess < 1378497848 346167 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually some versions of elliottcraft don't have a speed of light, but adding one would make sense < 1378497882 756463 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Alert character (the one that goes beep when printed) < 1378497890 887902 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's a very informal description for me < 1378497973 434937 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he also has a bunch of arthropods in perspex and model ants in his office < 1378497979 633051 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a giant papier mache ant helmet < 1378497991 70257 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uefufl < 1378497993 679989 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful.* < 1378498022 453110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ♪ your quotes are ready ♪ < 1378498042 40269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378498048 19708 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ < 1378498068 486410 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::♪) hm < 1378498147 347634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::∢ < 1378498149 775296 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, why haven't you readied my quodes < 1378498153 71649 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quotes < 1378498164 619486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quode Phantom_Hoover < 1378498166 345822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quode: not found < 1378498183 349622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because I'm not yet doing the letter “P”. < 1378498193 858485 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, Snowflake is my /second/ language that is slightly inspired by my dislike for Java2K < 1378498199 173171 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/ˈæmbiːɛf/ is the first) < 1378498199 625655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if you're asking about Taneb's being done before you, it's because of atriq.) < 1378498209 164948 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it's my third if you count Befunge2K, but that was never documented < 1378498236 9800 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's literally "Befunge-98 where all instructions except ; have a 50% chance of doing nothing instead" < 1378498245 179519 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: you are kmc, right? < 1378498250 374222 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, ais523 < 1378498253 802789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378498256 865391 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I just tried to tab-complete my primary nick < 1378498262 431288 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that /could/ work, it just doesn't < 1378498269 534690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mkdir predicament. < 1378498385 696912 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I also guess I also have several other thoughts on the matter, but they are too wide-ranging and not directly relevant, so I will save them for The Manifesto. < 1378498390 663777 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that ever happen? because it seems ominous < 1378498428 766684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh! another document to latexify! :D < 1378498450 214876 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: which document? < 1378498471 785186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: the The Manifesto. < 1378498475 508501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kumquat) < 1378498485 554278 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels slightly trolled
< 1378498552 532237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: in two parts. 1) cpressey mentionned an obscure Manifesto, that I wish to latexify. 2) http://www.kimmok.com/THE-MANIFESTO-MANIFESTO < 1378498555 451856 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apparently atehwa uses an ä in his or her eodermdrome programs < 1378498563 166081 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even legal? < 1378498584 447517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: who are you? are you approximative? I like your spurrious diæresification. < 1378498591 678066 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, yes < 1378498617 319631 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is, I just said "letters" < 1378498621 325760 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spec just says 'characters', with absolutely no qualification < 1378498641 634099 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, now people who speak languages other than English have an advantage over me in eodermdrome-writing < 1378498662 833024 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have an advantage over the americans! < 1378498672 444512 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I at least have an ë to play with < 1378498748 551632 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strange how most people deny its existence) < 1378498758 328933 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also according to the books I originally learned the alphabet from, & is a letter < 1378498850 990120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«éperluette», which means “and by itself, and”. it was the 27th letter. < 1378498879 624406 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is that French for "ampersand"? < 1378498904 608734 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I remember that in Gödel, Escher, Bach, Hofstadter used ""/«»/»« quotes to distinguish English, French, and German) < 1378498937 466089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«» is perfectly valid for quoting in English. < 1378498948 878934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's the proper glyph name in French, but nobody uses it. everyone calls it «et commercial». < 1378498954 930017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen »« in English, though. < 1378499010 320835 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, doesn't French have more than 26 letters /anyway/? < 1378499017 227719 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. é < 1378499107 829862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't count as extra letters. < 1378499168 616101 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… so ä is OK in Eodermdrome, but é isn't? < 1378499253 673267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends in which context you use «é». In French, it is equivalent to a regular «e» (or è, ê and ë for that matter), just with a small pixelly smudge over it. < 1378499282 794739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you are nicely quoted. stop bathrooming with sgeo. hand. hth. < 1378499289 582094 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh what < 1378499307 642825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: the /topic PDF includes your quotes now. < 1378499308 716634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :«mnoqy» < 1378499332 345238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«“「mnoqy」”» < 1378499341 720292 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ! < 1378499512 456506 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oops i forgot about sending you that thing... i'll look into it in a bit < 1378499512 638083 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now though: chapter 2 name proposal: The Things of Wisdomme < 1378499601 456356 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378499610 918393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: doing your quotes! < 1378499630 548231 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes nooodl < 1378499635 996301 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.23957 < 1378499646 97760 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, exciting < 1378499666 848311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy. fungot. < 1378499666 993593 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there < 1378499678 535107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even used /no+dl/ for your name match. < 1378499819 122962 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, good quote nooodl < 1378499826 495024 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thx" < 1378499867 956043 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378499998 888927 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378500051 367710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. the linter fears kmc, now that I'm oerjanning. < 1378500260 11681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what, you have duplicate quotes????? < 1378500308 684065 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes? and? < 1378500525 312325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you are quoted. peruse the PDF. < 1378500525 494239 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378500595 503491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generic Identity Question: are oklopol and oklofok the same person? < 1378500638 492197 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378500643 143647 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense < 1378500671 519754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it just happens that neither has quotes. so they can freely be who they are. < 1378500678 297259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378500680 989056 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be right < 1378500684 138024 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote oklopol < 1378500685 600709 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :28) i can get an erection out of a plank, you can quote me on that. \ 30) anyway, torture would be fun to experience, true should put that on my todo list \ 32) i'm my dad's unborn sister \ 43) GregorR: are you talking about ehird's virginity or your soda beer? \ 53) hmm, this is hard \ 5 < 1378500722 140626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woops. typo on my end, then. < 1378500728 665961 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklorientation: 32 is the only quote there that I think is made up < 1378500769 245807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: indeed. the okloes have 76 quotes in all. < 1378500792 670111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okos < 1378500868 942299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I may have missed some Gregor quotes. aurgh. < 1378500901 564540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :false alarm. I complete Gregor. < 1378500906 901564 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378500934 521399 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote 32 just doesn't make any sense at all < 1378501147 295843 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, 28 and 30 i completely believe though < 1378501182 203066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe many things that aren't in the quotes. < 1378501368 477075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I mathematically hate you. < 1378501384 124832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378501394 580076 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`lastseen oklopol < 1378501394 844457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. it's only a polynomial. < 1378501396 30537 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: lastseen: not found < 1378501402 14242 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1378501433 487981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1378501433 670020 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 15m 8s ago: you are quoted. peruse the PDF. < 1378501489 587491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen oklopol < 1378501495 468967 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-28 21:20:53: meaning with, in, by, respectively; i think < 1378501519 623081 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that recently? < 1378501526 336850 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't noticed him in ages < 1378501581 559248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: have you become invisible to scots < 1378501620 365477 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I didn’t get far with the poset functor thing. For A : C, F A : D, if i have a Fo : A → F A for the objects and you give me an (A → B), corresponding to a true (A ≤ B), i’m supposed to give you a (F A → F B), corresponding to a true (F A ≤ F B), is this right? I’m not sure i have enough building blocks for that. < 1378501698 966075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with that, The Okloes are quoted. < 1378501704 743017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: What do you mean by Fo : A → F A? < 1378501709 545547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go retrogaming! < 1378501711 153685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378501712 736364 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378501742 567405 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that → an arrow in one of the categories or some other thing? < 1378501879 536362 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I read somewhere that a functor F : C → D involves F₀ : A → F A for the objects and F₁ : (A → B) → (F A → F B) for the arrows. I think the C → D, A → F A and F₁ : (…) → (…) arrows were supposed to be function arrows. Or something. Did i read something bad or misinterpret it? < 1378501930 224703 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, sure, as long as it's clear that that's different from the → arrow inside the category (which is just a ≤ relationship). < 1378501949 143789 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I guess my only remaining hope for Snowflake is to get oerjan or Keymaker or someone interested in it < 1378501954 387016 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just do it all myself < 1378501968 428794 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cry internally at the esocommunity's lack of interest in esolangs < 1378501974 324905 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Yes < 1378501983 201247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: So a functor F has F₀, which maps each object in C to an object in D, and F₁, which "maps" ≤ relationships. < 1378502006 438933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty much what you said. < 1378502017 415789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a function between posets which is order-preserving. < 1378502058 431881 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that if x ≤ y then f(x) ≤ f(y) < 1378502067 169729 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378502071 531460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo Is there a name for those monads which are implementable even if bind can call its continuation at most 1 time? <-- i don't know but the STMonadTrans package refers to those without a name. < 1378502071 676568 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378502075 607866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. a monotonic function. < 1378502080 655477 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monotonically increasing.) < 1378502126 574489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo or well, i assume it's essentially the same. < 1378502126 725059 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378502355 327348 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: So… am i supposed to be able to make one in general? < 1378502366 433511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "make"? < 1378502393 57776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say we have the poset category N of natural numbers. < 1378502399 828514 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the exercise was to define F₁. So far we only have “type signatures”. < 1378502409 506384 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1378502435 378473 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's at most one arrow between the object F A and F B. < 1378502442 146401 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you just have to show that it exists. < 1378502562 149352 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not sure how to do that. < 1378502651 211855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, take any monotonic function from N to N, for example. < 1378502674 788834 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a "functor" that maps an object x to the object x+1. < 1378502686 356492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if x≤y, then x+1≤y+1 < 1378502691 143628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378502753 701227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I don't understand what you mean. < 1378502897 709339 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The goal was adjunctions or something like that, right? < 1378502959 514305 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the false impression that i should find a general definition of F₁ for any F : C → D, but i suppose the definition depends on the specific C and D. < 1378502985 454365 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see. < 1378503001 790567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we have the definition of a functor, which is F₀ and F₁ which follow some laws. < 1378503045 991669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The laws are trivial when you're talking about posets, by the way.) < 1378503097 55991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when you're specifying some particular functor, you give a specific definition of F₁. < 1378503110 781620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :F₁ id = id; F₁ f ∘ F₁ g = F₁ (f ∘ g); anything else? < 1378503131 144374 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the laws. < 1378503136 590753 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1378503167 64700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's a "type law" of sorts, which is that if f : A -> B then F₁ F : F₀ A -> F₀ B < 1378503188 481061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Usually people don't bother writing F₀ and F₁, just F. Or, in Haskell, they write fmap instead of F₁.) < 1378503209 245462 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378503258 323464 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokoko < 1378503260 271285 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1378503272 683632 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1378503347 749296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what those empty squares are
< 1378503353 379195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i have two say minimal compact dynamical systems X and Y, is there a name for the following: for any morphism \phi : X \times Y \to X, there's a function \psi : X \to X such that \phi(x, y) = \psi(x) for all x, y < 1378503383 385402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a morphism < 1378503392 978629 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuous function that commutes with the dynamics < 1378503412 287027 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, for a moment I thought oerjan was asking what morphisms are in general < 1378503419 820830 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and got really confused, because I expected him to know < 1378503425 541476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1378503450 925967 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Thanks for the explanations. I should start reading Awodey’s book at some point. < 1378503466 176672 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378503471 317846 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Snowflake < 1378503473 274413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378503474 41528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: by what you write, phi is independent of y < 1378503474 818942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Awodey has some great videos -- a few hours -- that you could watch. < 1378503475 183648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378503480 224829 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1378503496 165651 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Oh, cool. /me googles < 1378503504 330271 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently i say "X is independent from Y" for this < 1378503512 683194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :opm" http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/research/summerschool/summer12/curriculum.html < 1378503513 357429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just wondering if there's a name < 1378503518 106973 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, ion: < 1378503535 657470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember one < 1378503538 44660 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :djsvjsg" thanks < 1378503547 768953 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a relatively useful concept for minimal systems; at least it seems to be exactly what is needed for computing the endomorphisms of certain toeplitz subshifts < 1378503563 434737 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1378503571 435615 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gotta sleep < 1378503581 739740 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1378503593 209927 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kuolema kuittaa univelat. < 1378503768 363753 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378504015 542870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: The next step is natural transformations, I guess! < 1378504192 60787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a natural step < 1378504204 492070 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo, i missed oklopol again < 1378504225 766360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly something eerie is going on < 1378504256 618151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close and yet so far < 1378504641 305458 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Death to reset the sleep-deprived? < 1378504717 556503 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Death will pay off the sleep debt < 1378504721 203604 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote okokoko < 1378504723 142429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378505051 603286 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oklopol say okokoko a bit in #esoteric so we can `addquote it < 1378505051 748635 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378505057 40992 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait < 1378505066 376008 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog okokokoko < 1378505083 776377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19632 < 1378505091 269383 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378505108 11882 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378505251 519665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i call rule 34 on rule 110" < 1378505275 917885 :solidoodlesuppor!~solijohn@rrcs-24-103-111-118.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378505326 961095 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, how hard could it be? < 1378505424 665883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right i mean it's turing complete < 1378505459 866972 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone has the same taste as turing though < 1378505500 561985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1378505579 707528 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should do something... tomorrow maybe? < 1378505602 225999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow: procrastinating < 1378505634 214126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing things: overrated? or not? < 1378505663 527587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably! < 1378505680 58233 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN^WWORLDNEWS: http://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1kw1nd/not_a_conspiracy_anymore/cbtdfzh < 1378505684 140120 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378505713 513766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a "bitcoin" credit card today, so this bitcoin thing must be "getting somewhere" < 1378505726 318582 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378505813 869689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bitcoin' ``credit'' ```card''' < 1378505815 114159 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bitcoin': not found < 1378505838 585185 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may have been a debit card but the distinction is lost on me < 1378505912 651837 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: good night? < 1378505912 834226 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1378505914 788970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it actually bitcoin-enabled in some way < 1378505921 76433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did it just like have a bitcoin logo on it < 1378505952 436420 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it was connected to a bitcoin exchange and you could sell bitcoins to have the balance directly deposited on your card < 1378505975 140309 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought bitcoins were useless for up-front transactions < 1378505983 516442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: and I know that's just a bit of the ^style list, stop cheating < 1378505983 661557 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i, myself, will bring an end to all. ghosts lurk in the ruins were in truth, and everything in readiness for fnord. under these, too < 1378506006 876651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how do you mean < 1378506017 448113 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, myself, will bring an end to all. everything in readiness for fnord! < 1378506053 839805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnorderdämmerung < 1378506080 571827 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :die erdämmerung der fnord < 1378506131 232363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: doing things can be nice but not doing things has its own charm < 1378506162 971119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does playing mölkky count as doing things or no < 1378506179 74830 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it has a long-ish transaction delay or something? < 1378506184 30094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378506189 539065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of physical merchants seem to not care though < 1378506193 840363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky question < 1378506198 328342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo i don't care < 1378506228 128470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they use a transaction processor that converts BTC immediately into bilderberg conspiracy fiat currency, and guarantees them against fraud (like cc processors do) < 1378506247 42040 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the risk again < 1378506267 931388 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you buy a croissant, eat it, then cancel the transaction before it goes through> < 1378506285 992207 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :going via "bilderberg conspiracy fiat currency" sounds quite reliable < 1378506314 575111 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw on the topic of the bilderbergs i would like to once again recommend THEM: adventures with extremists < 1378506355 948747 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are you sure they guarantee *against* fraud, rather than e.g. guaranteeing fraud? (I also idly wonder which one of those is more likely to give your money back) < 1378506366 332986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the risk is double spend < 1378506381 818332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cancel i guess would mean you double spend also by sending it to yrself < 1378506438 218557 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what, you override the earlier transaction with a second one that sends the money elsewhere? < 1378506476 758275 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the jist is you send two transactions out at once, and hope the other one gets included in the block chain? < 1378506504 64848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me tell you exactly how it works < 1378506534 417560 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i get it now < 1378506549 212553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you dont care which one gets included < 1378506552 872162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you got two things < 1378506556 581132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the price of one < 1378506570 211211 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think a miner will accept two transactions coming from the same money? < 1378506570 356362 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378506572 255013 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they'll reject it < 1378506574 607194 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378506579 583875 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you still have two croissants < 1378506585 622519 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh XD < 1378506668 444833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so merkhants are advised to wait for the netwrk to agree on the transxn < 1378506695 395315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not a discrete thing but the longer you wait, the less likely it will change its mind < 1378506719 674905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is discrete in units of blocks, which take avg 10 min to make) < 1378506749 223142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most people dont wanna wait 10 min for a croissont much less 30 < 1378506758 667772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your btc bakery must take this risk < 1378506763 946483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pay someone else to assume the risk < 1378506777 891126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case that third party can also run an instantaneous change to money that is actually useful to your business < 1378506801 666806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know because your landlord and croissont supplier probably don't accept bitcoin (dupes of the global banker hegemony that they are) < 1378506804 746092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1378506806 307291 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" > /dev/null; echo Complaint filed. Thank you.; < 1378506829 524980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /dev/null < 1378506830 716250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378506837 638864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no complaints, how nice. < 1378506874 611909 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, are you drunk or are your hands badly injured < 1378506905 906193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :painting nails < 1378506917 491247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, both? < 1378506925 778063 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's neither < 1378506928 878175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s /dev/null complaints < 1378506931 643870 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless he's done smoething very very wrong with acetone < 1378506932 671738 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378506934 471483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dronk on ethyl acetate fumes < 1378506958 718742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'wc -l complaints' > bin/complaints; chmod +x bin/complaints < 1378506962 271763 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378506963 367671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1378506964 860942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 complaints < 1378507051 445446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378507061 935840 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh good (i just asked in case your hands were too badly injured to alert the emergency services) < 1378507096 863593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's#/dev/null#complaints#' bin/complain < 1378507099 341291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you would call for me 0818 999 88911 9119725 3 < 1378507100 800862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378507109 880460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/>/>>/' bin/complain < 1378507113 729868 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378507118 36711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think these days the preferred way to alert the police is twitter < 1378507139 104267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/;$//' bin/complain < 1378507140 613327 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they actually notice < 1378507143 9875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378507147 845356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think that will handle the complaits already made. i suggest modifying the `list method. < 1378507154 517836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+n < 1378507158 448593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm? < 1378507163 448840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It handles them very well. < 1378507176 518263 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo bin/complain < 1378507177 694019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/complain < 1378507182 386426 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1378507183 802692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" >> complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378507188 689638 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378507199 272921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Alternatively: I suggest that you file that as a complaint. < 1378507210 643983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1378507225 249551 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain oerjan won't do his complaint duty < 1378507226 373563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378507228 513443 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1378507229 907955 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 complaints < 1378507303 639816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'See misspellings of croissant' >wisdom/'croissont supplier' < 1378507307 859799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378507933 192124 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :myndzi > 1378507933 330171 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378507975 75211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't have HackEgo and myndzi have different length flags. or wait... < 1378508000 625857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be broken anyway. < 1378508023 57416 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre < 1378508365 313483 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we +q myndzi instead < 1378508366 370313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if myndzi has voice, i demand voice! \o/ < 1378508366 751372 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                       | < 1378508366 910235 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                       |\ < 1378508598 854872 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :myndzi > 1378508598 877882 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378508617 778451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we can't have _that_. < 1378508636 952606 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378508768 487238 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378508898 949610 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378508945 872348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: yes <-- i believe the " , please" makes your answer incorrect unless you actually do it < 1378509000 382630 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378509010 326929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if you use it zzo38-style? < 1378509037 157865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERM < 1378509040 6135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT SURE < 1378509084 449826 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.*please < 1378509096 983542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.*, please.?$ < 1378509111 174531 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-04.txt:20:30:31: cheater99: Hay you! Stop cheating, please! < 1378509111 319852 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-18.txt:04:32:11: Maybe submit the report and then they can correct it please. < 1378509151 95480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.*, please.?$ < 1378509151 327438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.*, please.?$ < 1378509151 535674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.*, please.?$ < 1378509159 434751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-10-09.txt:04:06:50: Unicode works for some things, but you should not always use it, please. < 1378509159 852866 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-12.txt:06:10:35: If you can't use geosynchronous orbits for triangulation, then it would be the idea that if you have satellites that need triangulation, remember to don't make them geosynchronous, please. < 1378509160 580132 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-04-10.txt:01:56:49: O, go drink hydroxic acid, please. < 1378509171 448206 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1378509181 997642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I THINK YOUR THEORY IS BADLY SUPPORTED < 1378509184 544847 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that zzo lashing out in anger < 1378509192 94620 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if so... < 1378509201 72583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509202 152302 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509202 504086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509209 364920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-03-13.txt:05:29:13: oerjan: Can you ask elliott to correct it please? < 1378509209 740987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2010-04-04.txt:07:17:02: Quadrescence: Why do you think that, please? < 1378509210 462355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-12-20.txt:22:11:21: Not exactly what it does? Can you elaborate on that please? < 1378509228 104569 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509228 312129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509232 464800 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1378509232 876295 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-02.txt:08:08:11: Do you have better idea please? < 1378509233 976864 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-03-30.txt:03:20:12: pikhq: Does it depend on how it is generated? Can you give details please? < 1378509272 545322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: give up already. or it least use `pastelogs < 1378509285 177267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs zzo38>.* please\?$ < 1378509300 796388 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24912 < 1378509313 124029 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quadrescence used to be in here? < 1378509321 97656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs zzo38>.* please.?$ < 1378509335 535281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20462 < 1378509347 425612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Do you know them from #lisp? < 1378509354 872885 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a few other places, yes < 1378509380 496948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*at < 1378509659 129583 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378510334 883322 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378510551 793372 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378510589 942706 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378510611 210359 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Let me verify something: in the category of matrices with multiplication, are the objects natural numbers corresponding to matrix dimensions? < 1378510622 819535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1378510626 203814 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, thanks < 1378510629 641301 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO was bathrooming with me?!?!? < 1378510656 459323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: There's another way to look at that category: The objects are R^n for natural numbers n, and the arrows are linear maps. < 1378510712 234503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the CIA < 1378510799 842395 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: Why would the World Health Organization do that? < 1378510834 71235 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Hmm, interesting. < 1378510878 996133 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378510882 275269 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378511011 989685 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378511014 74789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :waht < 1378511145 947046 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378511168 448719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no, baht < 1378511233 354710 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378511737 684378 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378512349 402926 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-public < 1378512349 548151 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1378512352 57130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1378512352 202459 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1378512359 985334 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list messages < 1378512360 130827 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell provides: tell ask messages messages-loud messages? clear-messages < 1378512364 650547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1378512364 795830 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 51m 33s ago: Is there a name for those monads which are implementable even if bind can call its continuation at most 1 time? <-- i don't know but the STMonadTrans package < 1378512364 941558 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :refers to those without a name. < 1378512364 941713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2h 50m 38s ago: or well, i assume it's essentially the same. < 1378512405 691334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i had to make up a name i would call them affine monads < 1378512414 799085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably a) a confusing name b) already something else < 1378512423 14355 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonlinear monads < 1378512443 862376 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason I'm interested is because instead of passing in a real continuation, you could pass in, say, a function that resumes a coroutine < 1378512476 183200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: linear would be even stronger than this, you would have to use it _exactly_ once. < 1378512477 446679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that related to that one thing oleg talks about < 1378512499 13382 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So languages that have first-class coroutines but not first-class continuations can have nice syntax based on that for those monads, if not all monads < 1378512519 784496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in imperative languages most of those monads probably aren't that interesting, sadly < 1378512537 309274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the interesting ones like list can't do the coroutine thing < 1378512555 223352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you describe this property in terms of fmap/join/return < 1378512643 999843 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a property of fmap < 1378512781 571916 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src join < 1378512781 754161 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :join x = x >>= id < 1378512910 218754 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378513585 270379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378513890 385248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1378513890 570082 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 2d 5h 9m 16s ago: “Automynorcagrammatical” what the fungot... I like that one. < 1378513925 823787 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs shachaf
< 1378513937 586535 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi copumpkin < 1378513941 693329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happen < 1378513953 754194 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that i object to hugz!!) < 1378513962 272434 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody set up us the bomb!! < 1378513983 75090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1378513991 155267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can come visit with edwardk next month < 1378513999 921830 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he giving another talk or something? < 1378514008 115230 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378514046 452514 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I'm such an asshole < 1378514049 413608 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never visit < 1378514079 979898 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could come play mölkky with me and kmc! < 1378514149 346266 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :valleypumpkin < 1378514344 318926 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1378514348 905432 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :this marmite isn't going to eat itself < 1378514350 557434 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, can't go < 1378514372 254216 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r < 1378514379 511797 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but seriously < 1378514382 686093 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a brand new 500g jar < 1378514392 126491 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have over a month! < 1378514392 690102 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not lying: it really isn't going to eat itself < 1378514400 593176 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating marmite is srs bsns < 1378514411 374868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can bring it here with you. < 1378514417 239638 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no that's the problem < 1378514420 109907 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a crack in the lid < 1378514424 164134 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it leaked in the box < 1378514429 293411 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now means I can't transport it easily < 1378514447 539632 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not for that I'd totally go to CA < 1378514454 191239 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1378514463 327505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just arrange some marmite for you over here < 1378514471 591041 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ICFP? < 1378514473 303291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and someone to destroy the old jar < 1378514481 623403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be just like marmite teleportation < 1378514485 504175 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't be going to ICFP. :-( < 1378514486 254248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you _sure_ marmite doesn't eat itself, i've heard disturbing things... < 1378514494 561754 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I would know it wasn't _my_ jar < 1378514501 837096 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd break my heart < 1378514504 991606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :valleypumpkin: no, it'd be extensionally equal < 1378514509 773092 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my gf just got a new dog! < 1378514522 824094 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r < 1378514532 6676 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, lovr < 1378514539 783218 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was a h8r boi < 1378514547 53777 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :she said see ya sk7r boi < 1378514562 3972 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I shouldn't be misquoting avril on the intarwebz < 1378514600 178040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i 9t as if 2 now < 1378514624 933927 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck is going on < 1378514649 257218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :valleypumpkin: i'm sure you want to play mölkky < 1378514656 216480 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work? < 1378514667 624698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%B6lkky < 1378514676 200972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc can confirm that it's good < 1378514731 753484 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that looks fun < 1378514760 333417 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you and kmc hang out much? < 1378514866 693754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://paste.tclers.tk/2729 < 1378514884 2695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much is much < 1378514951 970884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? marmite < 1378514954 302410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :marmite? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378514954 565008 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378514954 749490 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1378515012 997960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is 4 2 as i s7 rite < 1378515139 690736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Marmite is a group mind of fungal microorganisms spreading throughout the supermarkets of the Commonwealth. < 1378515144 629585 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378515260 963696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wait, what do you know about this. < 1378515261 109922 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or is it just me, or i: yet, you rogue! i'll be right.) still don't cut, and among the rafters. withel regarded it without the cod title on it hard to fiqure out what going, tough one. if we solve it,... < 1378515350 451744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is copumpkin in The Valley < 1378515516 270259 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378516123 590825 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378516458 413447 :valleypumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1378516720 972659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bummer < 1378516733 152136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should invent a way to play mölkky over the internet < 1378516740 506305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :build some kind of mölkky-bot < 1378516751 313585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like fun < 1378516761 146273 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but first you should make your own mölkky < 1378516801 500314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MYOM < 1378517760 370603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats CallForJudgement for not knowing the alphabet -----###
< 1378517923 323511 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swaps oerjan for a good overlord
< 1378518439 94519 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378518555 273632 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378519723 664452 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tclsh < 1378519724 900263 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: tclsh: command not found < 1378519727 904095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1378519877 645946 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I punch someone? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18649855/tcl-how-substitution-occures-in-if-statement/18651365#18651365 < 1378520163 34019 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378520345 94117 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but there's more than one < 1378520348 497054 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't expect me to know all of them < 1378520414 968720 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Sorry, but int tcl there is no difference between the string "0" and the value 0.» why, god < 1378520435 803496 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: there isn't in Perl either, it's not that much of a problem < 1378520447 270886 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because strings and ints have entirely different operators for dealing with them < 1378520460 379337 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you god < 1378520463 827019 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you use + it's interpreted as an int, and if you use . (string concatenation) it's interpreted as a string < 1378520465 306241 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no < 1378520607 309724 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Do you actually know any Tcl? < 1378520611 752690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: well i think your insistence that o is before n in the alphabet is very unconventional. < 1378520613 940721 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378520638 490465 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an interesting language in some ways. Not without its flaws, but still interesting < 1378520648 953112 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you really want something to complain at, it's that there's no distinction between strings and subroutines < 1378520695 49732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: you mean between strings and code? Because if I store an argument and body in foo, I can't just call $foo. Wish I could < 1378520732 229828 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: err, yes < 1378520746 392658 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to put it another way, Tcl does everything with eval < 1378520778 27345 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: the eval thing is really what interests me about Tcl, but I'd prefer an eval that operates on stuff that has more information than strings do < 1378520785 23091 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the way Rebol does things < 1378520797 970052 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of ""symbol"" eh < 1378520816 192121 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not an eval that operates on compiled code? < 1378520834 115699 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, does anyone know a verilog synthesisy thing i can use that isn't the heap i'm supposed to use for class < 1378520847 722357 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because constructing and rearranging compiled code from scratch is difficult? < 1378520854 244235 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the build report has a table of contents. it goes on for pages < 1378520871 502436 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for about... 15 lines < 1378520892 407431 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sadly, verilog/VHDL synthesizers tend to be massively target-specific < 1378520894 365356 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and suck < 1378520905 751457 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. < 1378520911 152034 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's Icarus Verilog, which is pretty good and non-sucky, but it needs plugins to target specific hardware < 1378520915 853599 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just compile to VHDL or the like < 1378520922 190011 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those probably aren't available < 1378520933 627445 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, who manufactured your FPGA? < 1378520936 519329 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compile to vhdl? aren't vhdl and verilog on the same level < 1378520937 983991 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digilent < 1378520969 343133 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, they're on the same level < 1378520976 281729 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling to VHDL isn't massively useful < 1378520983 761453 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more or less all you can do unless you have something lower-level to compile to < 1378520992 939660 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesh < 1378520994 158099 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the lower-level languages are FPGA-specific and often proprietary < 1378521002 897949 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're like machine code, only nobody will tell you what it means < 1378521004 202965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: imagine Tcl with lexical scope < 1378521006 791129 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a huge array of 1s and 0s < 1378521010 702354 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if i could figure out how the stupid thing works and have my own tools < 1378521015 992800 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... yeah, the bitfiles look pretty undocumented < 1378521035 414396 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I've never used an FPGA by Diligent < 1378521050 371689 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far, I've tried Altera and Xilinx, and concluded that Xilinx's development tools suck so badly we can't use them at all < 1378521054 617187 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a semi-local company, i think. mostly educational stuff. < 1378521060 898394 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xilinx is the development tool i'm using! < 1378521063 114404 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaaay < 1378521064 276003 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas Altera's are quirky and have a bad UI, but at least it works < 1378521084 663604 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i got it working, and that's about all i can about it. < 1378521087 627004 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until I found a way to avoid having to do it, the worst part was port assignment < 1378521089 92476 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :positively, i mean. < 1378521091 653518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: has someone started a rumor that it's because the lower-level languages all have CIA/NSA backdoors yet? < 1378521115 639208 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you have ports in your code, and you want to assign them to ports on the actual chip < 1378521129 647556 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do this, you have to use a weird editor thing that lets you select the ports from each side from drop-downs < 1378521140 80718 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, that's annoying. < 1378521143 315438 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like 200 possibilities for the port on the chip, and they're in one drop-down box < 1378521151 623630 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, wait. no, i just wrote a ucf and that worked. < 1378521153 304041 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to select via the mouse, after screenfuls of scrolling < 1378521170 44678 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ucf a xilinx-specific thing. please say no < 1378521170 367892 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keyboard doesn't help because they're all "PORT_whatever" and it only autocompletes the first character < 1378521182 730624 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm not sure; it doesn't work on the Altera tools, or else I'd use it :( < 1378521187 467459 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaah < 1378521189 766324 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this could be xilinx being specific or altera being ignorant < 1378521206 151911 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty xilinx-specific from google. god damn. < 1378521211 369898 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with xilinx wasn't the port assignment UI (UCF is fine), but the facts that the ports were all undocumented < 1378521220 793714 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378521224 718358 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after a week of searching we couldn't find enough documentation to figure out which ports to assign < 1378521230 867939 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my professor is related to the company that made the board. maybe i can, like, blackmail him into telling me the bitfile format. < 1378521232 39780 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including contacting actual people who worked for xilinx and asking < 1378521234 203674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you even need some GUI and other specific stuff; can't they make some generic FPGA? < 1378521249 244081 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: wait, wait, i'm confused. the ports are on the hardware, yes? < 1378521252 666144 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they probably could, but they don't because it would cut into their margins < 1378521260 953749 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, but the hardware comes on development boards < 1378521268 64593 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: probably because there hasn't been nearly as big an open hardware as open software movement. < 1378521277 20400 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are hundreds of pins and so you can't connect to them by hand, so you need to use a presoldered board < 1378521280 765197 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: i mean, it's the board manufacturer that should be documenting the ports, not xilinx? < 1378521283 691304 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and xilinx wouldn't give documentation as to what pin connected to what < 1378521287 143054 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think they made the board < 1378521296 282134 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as the FPGA < 1378521299 808037 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378521312 791711 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, their only officially supported way to use the board was to use a closed-source addon module with a crazy configuration wizard < 1378521315 600461 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sucks, from digilent i got actual schematics, in addition to the manual < 1378521328 484924 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that went and synthesized a CPU with a custom bus pattern for communicating with the rest of your circuit onto the FPGA < 1378521335 734794 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm still not sure which port is the PCM but whatever) < 1378521338 267265 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: jesus christ. < 1378521348 61015 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now we can't just GPIO, we have to deal with all this abstraction nonsense < 1378521405 18299 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i don't know, am i doing this weird? what i do is write some verilog, put it in xilinx's stupid "project" crap, hit build, wait five minutes, a bitfile comes out, and then i use a digilent thing (outside of xilinx) to program the fpga with the bitfile. < 1378521445 968434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can, like, just have some bitfiles around and use digilent's nice commandline interface to put them on the board, without launching xilinx destroyer of worlds < 1378521462 238285 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, that's actually a much saner workflow than normal < 1378521472 240437 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the "five minutes" part < 1378521484 261074 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite common for me to have dinner for my supervisor while waiting for things to compile < 1378521486 756859 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious. < 1378521492 289532 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1378521506 316949 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: here, see http://www.veritygos.org/documentation < 1378521516 185795 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the section "Compiling for synthesis, on an already supported architecture" < 1378521530 209473 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is your thing, right? < 1378521540 274767 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verity's my hardware language, yes < 1378521547 343262 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of that section is about setting up the Altera tools correctly < 1378521566 741734 :nooodl!~nooodl@81.241.175.225 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378521568 951957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if they made a generic open source FPGA, they could compete with the other FPGA companies successfully < 1378521590 585307 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :steps 1, 3, 4, 9 are mine, the rest is Quartus fiddling < 1378521596 983324 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, that documentation is old, we found an easier way < 1378521607 250033 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For the libraries provided with the compiler, use the following configuration: disable all the checkbox options apart from Clock, Button x 4, 7-Segment x 8, Switch x 18, and leave all the other options at their defaults. < 1378521611 602264 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" :| < 1378521611 873724 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the workflow now is that we get the Altera-provided tools to create a project < 1378521629 152645 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then get our own compiler to overwrite carefully chosen parts of it with our own provided files < 1378521640 156248 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: wouldn't the main problem be that custom ICs don't come cheap (disclaimer i know shit-all about fpga) < 1378521640 438987 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cuts out steps 10 and 11 < 1378521652 210275 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: this is scary. < 1378521652 355698 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and 9 < 1378521663 889773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes I know it can be expensive < 1378521666 383146 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you just specify a path to the project as an argument to the compiler < 1378521677 345988 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1378521682 770723 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, maybe i'll just ask my professor about this < 1378521688 67844 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, it holds a possibly unique position in the history of hardware synthesis < 1378521690 217666 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean he liked xilinx but god this is silly < 1378521702 715153 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have, on record, someone quote as saying that they followed the instructions and it worked first time < 1378521707 364500 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quoted < 1378521709 407897 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt i can convince a professional that this is silly, but still!! < 1378521720 64343 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: "had to put 'em through a polygraph just to be sure" < 1378521747 684970 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know I would buy it, and I think there are other people that would buy it too. < 1378521773 411234 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the problem is that the business model used by FPGA manufacturers at the moment is to make the FPGAs cheaply (so that they can be placed in products), then charge very large amounts for the development tools < 1378521775 392434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, you need capital to start with. < 1378521787 939312 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... yeah, lots of resistance here. < 1378521802 483333 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing that people will never be able to program them on their own < 1378521810 622487 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both Xilinx and Altera gave us copies free, though < 1378521820 915160 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xilinx has a free thing i'm using. < 1378521827 504952 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt i could do anything hardcore with it, but. < 1378521833 149733 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and i still had to do some dumb "licensing" thing. < 1378521844 412258 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically because if you can credibly say "we're doing research into a new way to compile programs onto FPGAs", they both care about it working with their product < 1378521844 557831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they earn or lose money on FPGA sales? < 1378521853 25770 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I suspect they earn money but with small margins < 1378521904 827684 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, lessee. the cheapest board usable with my class is fifty bucks for students, and eighty nine otherwise < 1378521928 383822 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. The boards are Digilent but built around a Xilinx FPGA. < 1378521931 868020 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not good at this, sorry. < 1378521981 189984 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Diligent have probably found a gap in the market: buy other people's FPGAs, make development boards for them that aren't a nightmare to program < 1378522004 53402 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sometimes takes us like an hour just to get the cable connected correctly between the computer and FPGA < 1378522006 977986 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1378522009 305253 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which wouldn't seem to be difficult because it's a USB cable < 1378522016 534751 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :digilent is education bent, so that would definitely make sense < 1378522030 870720 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but sometimes it just doesn't work for no obvious reason < 1378522045 995152 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they provide some kind of library api i should probably look at < 1378522106 517871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: That may be the business model, but if others make it the other business model (don't provide development tools at all; only documentation), then they can compete with the others seriously rather than just being another minor FPGA manufacturer. < 1378522111 628777 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By accepting this license, you agree that you will not modify, adapt, decompile, reverse engineer, translate, or otherwise attempt to discover the source code for the Software" well, time to void a warranty < 1378522186 792441 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: anyway, the other frustration right now is that during build xilinx lists some "command lines" but i don't even know where the actual programs are, which would be nice because i could use the same programs but from emacs or something < 1378522217 57381 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh no, don't try that, seriously < 1378522221 917886 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378522225 931116 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT it's some custom cygwin-based monstrosity < 1378522231 620236 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for god's sake. < 1378522249 939589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then provide volume discounts instead of making the chips less expensive and the software really expensive. < 1378522260 341360 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it's still cygwin-based on Linux < 1378522268 259549 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not, but I'm horrified enough at the rest of things that it seems possible < 1378522288 991157 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making me really glad i'm not interested in this field as a thing on its own < 1378522342 875098 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm making me glad that I get to use Verilog/VHDL as a compiler output target < 1378522354 302133 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than having to deal with the horrors of the abstraction levels below < 1378522360 16077 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grgh. < 1378522414 671990 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's $_ and $# in shell? < 1378522415 363511 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that I can live mostly on simulator, except when we badly need nonzero performance < 1378522423 866151 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the first is just a variable called _ < 1378522431 985031 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second probably does something, I'm not sure tohugh < 1378522458 673245 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$# is the number of arguments < 1378522472 853092 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm, well this script is using $_ for something. < 1378522489 761895 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ is a perfectly good variable name! < 1378522494 454624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some things I don't like about Verilog/VHDL which is why I was making some of my own ideas and called it "HWPL". One difference from Verilog is that numbers are given in binary by default instead of decimal (you need a prefix for decimal or hex); another is that there is only one I/O port which is a bit vector (and a bit vector can contain some inputs, some outputs, some analog, etc) but any number of macro parameters < 1378522516 742657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I wanted to think of what features are better for hardware programming language rather than software programming < 1378522521 6386 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: i mean, it doesn't assign it or anything. < 1378522537 62262 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1378522553 116690 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verilog constants have been annoying me. is something like {28{1'b1}} for 28 1s considered kosher? < 1378522590 118190 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: huh < 1378522595 518338 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran "echo $_", and got "sh" < 1378522599 676041 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh boy. < 1378522602 659698 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $_ < 1378522604 8426 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash < 1378522608 897027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I know there are those things, and other things < 1378522614 383000 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I tried to assign to _, ran it again, got the null string < 1378522622 448147 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ran it in my shell and got "--color=auto". < 1378522626 794058 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the next time I tried that, I got "echo" < 1378522628 810613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: What is your opinion of feature of hardware programming languages? < 1378522639 941737 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it appears to be the most recently run command < 1378522644 660645 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "kosher" as in "is this bad programming style only a noob like me would like" < 1378522649 553282 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe the most recently used argument of it < 1378522667 758711 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, after running "ps u", $_ had the value "u" < 1378522692 481449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't know if it is considered kosher but I wouldn't expect it to matter < 1378522696 959692 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sadly, I mostly only know VHDL < 1378522702 832722 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I would write (others => '1') < 1378522708 652444 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does `readlink -f ${$_}` < 1378522713 723651 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i mean, is this considered readable < 1378522714 337125 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Verilog you have there looks like a reasonable translation of it < 1378522737 491465 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: how is vhdl? some of the example files use it and it looks more ... i dunno really < 1378522759 119422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: To me it is probably the most readable way as far as I can tell < 1378522762 261183 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: apparently, the design goal for VHDL was explicitly "write a hardware description language that is as similar to ADA as possible" < 1378522789 815233 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the language is actually called Ada, but I think VHDL's devs were addicted to allcaps) < 1378522790 158248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there better hardware programming languages? < 1378522793 440648 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: um... i don't know what to think about that. < 1378522796 973445 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ok. < 1378522800 277232 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's Verity ;) < 1378522833 853473 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: think declarations that are typically more verbose than the actual definitions, and a very high level of pedantry and accuracy < 1378522843 16633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: I looked and think that is worse for hardware; I mean one that is very close to hardware rather than having features of software programming < 1378522847 360654 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my professor basically said "most people use verilog, some people use vhdl, a few dipshits use schematics, and there are some other languages who cares" < 1378522848 169270 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which also makes it very hard to make a typo that isn't caught by the compiler < 1378522857 337184 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: hm hm hm. < 1378522871 175390 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it cannot catch logic errors :( < 1378522882 460018 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, if you make a typo in Verilog, the code will probably still compile and even run < 1378522898 789369 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's been pissing me off < 1378522947 729391 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically the opposite extreme of finickiness < 1378522950 522856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I don't really like in Verilog is how you need multiple I/O ports instead of just putting it all in one vector, and how calling a module requires the call to have a name < 1378522960 63121 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer VHDL, maybe because I know it and I don't like Verilog < 1378522968 739196 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should get figuring how to make submodules. < 1378522970 843017 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, the latter one annoyed me too, until I understood why it is < 1378522975 889671 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically to make debugging even possible < 1378522997 145373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did think of that, but I still think it is not a good idea < 1378523002 369198 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :having tens of thousands of wires you have to search through is bad enough < 1378523017 943046 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they aren't labelled properly, it's even worse < 1378523019 994006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least make it optional < 1378523022 168752 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: er, like, rather than having "input [4:0] btn, input [7:0] sw" and so on you just have a single input bus? < 1378523041 228494 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's for a zzoism < 1378523057 814120 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this discussion a while back; zzo38 wants a feature that's interesting, but mostly specific to his usecase < 1378523060 226427 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes. < 1378523063 793075 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's unlikely that anyone will add it < 1378523067 737873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I mean just a single I/O vector; all inputs and outputs and combined in/out and analog and all that stuff would be part of one vector, and then the parts can be given names < 1378523080 547194 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems weird. < 1378523092 719045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: No it isn't specific to usecase, really; actually I think it is better feature for hardware programming in general < 1378523117 764267 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: typically, I don't want to do bitshifts by accident < 1378523131 226684 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and especially, I don't want to bitshift half a variable on top of one variable, and a different half on top of another < 1378523145 832988 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be more useful to be able to route all the bits to signals of my choice individually < 1378523156 998059 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wonder what you think of Tcl < 1378523162 85787 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's what the "assign" statement of Verilog and the "<=" statement of VHDL already do < 1378523184 387879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: Well, I can give example of what I want in terms of some code of the experimental "HWPL" I made up, it might be something like: < 1378523259 29853 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuing my shell questions, what does «. "$sfn" "$d"» do? < 1378523312 580880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MODULE !MAIN() {.THIS,.THAT} BEGIN WIRE .THIS[7:0]; REG .THAT[7:0]; CONNECT .THIS TO .THAT; END; MODULE !MAIN2() {.ALL} BEGIN WIRE .ALL[15:0]; !MAIN() .ALL; END; < 1378523325 505357 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouty < 1378523337 811852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would need # before the 7 and 15 though < 1378523350 452184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To indicate they are decimal numbers rather than keywords < 1378523354 461881 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's basically equivalent to «sh "$sfn" "$d"» except more efficient < 1378523363 445828 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it uses the shell that's already running rather than starting a new one < 1378523367 109572 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: Why the new nick? < 1378523374 34240 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we had a discussion about nicks earlier < 1378523374 393350 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok, that makes sense < 1378523375 697323 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a new nick < 1378523378 765147 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one I rarely use on Freenode < 1378523390 156256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last -cl < 1378523392 424181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1378523394 543695 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :been wondering what thisfile does and it turns out it runs a bunch of crap < 1378523397 494772 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who saw that coming < 1378523459 276686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even something like: WIRE .THIS[#7:0]; REG .THAT[#7:0]; CONNECT {.THIS[#7:#4],.THAT[#7:#4]} TO {.THAT[#3:0],.THIS[#3:0]} WHEN &{.THAT[#2],.THAT[#4],.THAT[#6]}; < 1378523472 922563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know what kind of things I am meaning by that? < 1378523513 12172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: Do you see what some of my ideas are now? < 1378523520 894019 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, this shell file says the xilinx stuff won't work if some environment variable related to the linker is set. < 1378523525 492161 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: CONNECT … WHEN strikes me as really unfortunate syntax < 1378523531 53301 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting more and more terrified < 1378523532 904937 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like the variable gets disconnected when the condition's fase < 1378523546 214185 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I warned you to be terrified in advance! < 1378523560 116617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: What is it then? < 1378523568 864236 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now i'm terrifieder < 1378523570 844810 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*false < 1378523588 150899 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well in VHDL, you're supposed to use a when … when … else chain so that the signal always has a value < 1378523606 341334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: ion ion ion < 1378523607 258856 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're assigning in a process (i.e. at a clock edge), in which case you use "if" not "when" < 1378523632 265017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: OK, I understand that, but what if one pin is used sometimes for input and sometimes for output? Sometimes there will not have a signal. < 1378523633 105462 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol holy shit this thing fucks up $PATH < 1378523664 208509 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you still have to assign it a value, but you assign it "Z" as the output while it's inputting < 1378523674 546968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's how it works. < 1378523691 262218 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to say that you're not sourcing or sinking < 1378523757 665246 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, i have found the actually run programs! < 1378523781 268826 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, have an line from Verity's standard library with variables anonymized (mostly because their names are horrific): assign v = (L_ENABLE == `A)? L : {8{1'bz}}; < 1378523791 663767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking to make it the value of a WIRE is automatically Z by default and of a REG is automatically X by default; if you have multiple values connected to something at the same time then it is bus conflict and might damage the hardware. < 1378523829 702389 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: REG is X by default on all systems, which is really annoying < 1378523838 119230 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you simulate the reset, but the reset takes some time to occur < 1378523846 962296 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and typically you don't reset the output of arithmetic operations, just the inputs < 1378523853 914425 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because that'll make the output reset by itself) < 1378523856 337959 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, actually, it's U < 1378523870 417629 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the synthesizer program is 20K. this does not bode well at all, no no no. < 1378523876 517728 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a special case of X that's used to allow distinguishing between X-due-to-uninitialized and X-due-to-conflict < 1378523885 682866 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: check whether it's a text file < 1378523898 675365 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's an elf < 1378523907 123436 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you on Linux? < 1378523914 621443 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378523920 655211 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: I could actually believe that it would be an elf even on Windows) < 1378523931 992917 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm wondering if this is just a wrapper around a cygwin call < 1378523936 236445 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for planting the seeds of doubt!! < 1378523939 896425 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, you can't possibly reset the system fast enough to not get warnings about doing arithmetic on U < 1378523978 922926 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without adding a bunch of extra circuitry (that ends up in the compiled hardware) purely for the purpose of suppressing the warnings < 1378524004 659172 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simulator I use (GHDL, which is really ancient at this point) actually has a --ieee-warnings=disable-at-0 for this purpose < 1378524013 59515 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably its dev got annoyed too < 1378524042 314297 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm starting to understand why build takes five minutes. < 1378524072 33986 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, five minutes is fast < 1378524095 390353 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely you're using really lax time constraints (i.e. slow clock) and only utilizing a small part of the board < 1378524106 134737 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can just place the various components down pretty much at random and it still works < 1378524117 82003 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when your utilization goes up, placing/routing becomes really really difficult < 1378524121 138218 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because computers are so bad at it < 1378524131 759564 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they basically try to do it with evolutionary algorithms, which is far from ieal < 1378524133 267579 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ideal < 1378524138 722959 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i get that, but i think a lot of the timing is startup shit, i mea. < 1378524138 870088 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean < 1378524156 647990 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it takes five minutes even if it's a module consisting of "assign led = sw;" < 1378524173 506679 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's quite possibly quite a bit of stdlib on the board < 1378524189 766851 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many warnings do you get for that oneliner? < 1378524193 512058 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other ideas I have includes such things as a MORTON built-in acting like INTERCAL's bit interleave operator; SELECT acting like INTERCAL's select although the right operand has to be a static value (the left can be static or dynamic, and that becomes also the type of the result), and some others < 1378524194 465119 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's less than 1000, I'm disappointed < 1378524207 711863 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: meh, SELECT is boring, HOKEY/COKEY is a lot more interesting < 1378524209 534833 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: no warnings, but lots of messages about initializing things to 85°C < 1378524238 673566 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get warnings about things like clocks appearing to be clocks < 1378524256 38806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So something like SELECT(10XZ,#5) is 0Z < 1378524259 311007 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that it went and optimized a component into two different components then back to one < 1378524270 497989 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a serious warning because one of the components seemed to be useless < 1378524282 442594 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that I haven't carefully put time constraints on every single part of the program < 1378524294 536814 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, SELECT as a primitive is quite pointless, it works better as a library function < 1378524298 292653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah my favorite warning so far is that i set a register wrong, so it said it optimized out a flop < 1378524305 154360 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that triggered optimizing out a flop for the next highest bit < 1378524312 462342 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i got a warning for every bit of the register. < 1378524321 829429 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because different selects might need different timing properties < 1378524328 189230 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like multiplication being a primitive in VHDL and Verilog < 1378524333 510061 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice, actually using it is a really bad idea < 1378524338 700858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement Maybe these things could be, if there is the way to implement it, I suppose; it would help < 1378524345 947726 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a single-cycle multiply is going to take up a huge amount of silicon no matter what < 1378524361 323808 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i was surprised that addition is primitive in verilog, even < 1378524363 366438 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still I would have in HWPL, the arithmetic operators are static only and cannot be used with dynamic operands < 1378524363 792840 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you're trying to save silicon by doing it in multiple cycles, now you need a library module, not a primitive < 1378524364 95708 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on there? < 1378524372 663210 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fortunately, I believe division isn't < 1378524375 511596 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just add, subtract, multiply < 1378524379 104207 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but like, why < 1378524387 495793 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of convenient but it seems like it would be library < 1378524392 774335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there still is timing specifications allowed on all expressions and commands though, with minimum, typical, and maximum < 1378524407 609260 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: partly it's for compile-time array indexing and the like, I guess < 1378524419 975781 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just using it for a counter incrementing every clockk < 1378524433 723277 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my highest coursework marks ever was on a project for writing a parallel sort in VHDL < 1378524441 343569 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, of course, a recursive algorithm < 1378524444 954604 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i might as well ask about semantics; is the addition wraparound? < 1378524456 374098 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, VHDL has an obvious syntax for recursion, but attempting to use it drives most compilers into an infinite loop or crashes them < 1378524464 109099 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1378524476 508850 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, I had to write a recursive module instantiation entirely with for-generate loops < 1378524503 710252 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I did via putting all the signals into one large vector and doing crazy maths to get everything joined up together < 1378524511 752779 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yes, addition is wraparound < 1378524520 106861 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually multiplication is the most interesting, because it could be signed or unsigned < 1378524527 778163 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in VHDL, which it is depends on which libraries you import < 1378524536 298930 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing stuff. < 1378524543 749763 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a choice of three: one which makes all arithmetic signed, one where it's unsigned, and one where you use explicit casts to signed or unsigned < 1378524563 703029 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"_ZN4Port10ExecLoader4Util17VCRunTimeDLLCheckEbPKc" starting to regret this < 1378524584 781121 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's not so bad < 1378524588 350784 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just C++ name mangling < 1378524596 181851 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i mean, what it's referring to. < 1378524600 200411 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks vaguely like gcc's < 1378524603 527681 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's lots of "ExecLoader" in these strings. < 1378524609 751668 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this is a stripped file. < 1378524615 357170 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, more worrying is the "DLL" < 1378524620 268279 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that too < 1378524624 292346 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a string that doesn't have much meaning on Linux < 1378524628 606627 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but plenty of meaning on Windows < 1378524642 649235 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I came to the conclusion that Xilinx doesn't really care about the distinction between Linux and Windows < 1378524648 757506 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"/proc/%d/exe" ummmm < 1378524651 380 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just tries to find some sort of way to make things work anyway < 1378524666 929821 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a folder called "java". i'm really, really hoping it just uses java. < 1378524687 744958 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you probably weren't here when I said this, but for a microcontroller, the company released a custom compiler for it with an n day free trial < 1378524694 738733 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that compiler was quite clearly a gcc derivative < 1378524709 147326 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, source code was available, they were technically in compliance with the GPL < 1378524729 392742 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also I was technically in compliance with the license (the GPL) when I looked at the source to see how the n day free trial lockout worked < 1378524742 269452 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and patched it out < 1378524749 39650 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably the best argument for the GPL i've ever heard :p < 1378524769 708958 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I didn't recompile, that would have been a mess; rather, it turned out to communicate with a license-checking executable via fork/exec and checking the exit code < 1378524777 954875 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or the Winowds equivalent) < 1378524778 124784 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1378524780 218 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Windows < 1378524788 594838 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I replaced the license check with a copy of DNA Maze < 1378524806 516857 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. < 1378524832 496468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GPL certainly allows such things like that to happen; if you don't want to pay for the full version then you can fix it yourself after every new version that is released < 1378524842 557180 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was on Windows, and didn't have a copy of true handy) < 1378524860 793577 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so, my horror is mounting. < 1378524876 733654 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DNA maze? < 1378524880 389832 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: at Xilinx, or at DNA Maze? < 1378524881 727517 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bin/lin directory is full of programs. stuff that gets run on the "command line" by the GUI, like the layouter and whatever. < 1378524887 521027 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: computer game I wrote a while back, it's unfinished < 1378524892 322888 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some other stuff like "qt3config" < 1378524893 81851 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it's finished past the point where most people give up playing < 1378524900 735890 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and "xilperl". < 1378524914 510982 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: try giving a -v to xilperl and seeing what happens < 1378524917 53591 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, all of these programs < 1378524920 352041 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are 20K < 1378524926 847382 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have the same sorts of stuff in strings < 1378524933 355706 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm freakin out!! < 1378524939 204982 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, if it's a working Perl < 1378524946 590955 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you could probe its configuration from inside < 1378524948 721216 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Perl scripts < 1378524959 533198 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl has lots of introspection on the actual executable that's running < 1378524972 10981 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is perl, v5.8.8 built for i686-linux Modified to use XILPERL* instead of PERL* environment variables." oh please no < 1378524978 788557 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better, if it's a working Perl, then messing around with it is perfectly legal < 1378524980 401413 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because GPL < 1378524984 644432 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Artistic License < 1378525007 295912 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a multilicense, so Xilinx get to pick which to ship it under) < 1378525026 705322 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i clicked through like four dozen licenses when i installed this thing, several of which were gpl < 1378525062 17330 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it strikes me as crazy to modify Perl purely to rename the environment variables it uses < 1378525082 164765 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shipping your own perl is kind of crazy too! < 1378525114 664991 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, huh < 1378525124 416374 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :artistic license is not copyleft enough to prevent them restricting you using it < 1378525132 312722 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xilinx are probably relying on 3c and 8 < 1378525140 241873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378525155 89228 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason it's called xilperl is almost certainly 3c, which requires you to rename the executables if you use it < 1378525179 533984 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also why the changes to environment variables are documented < 1378525188 68640 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it requires you to document the differences < 1378525191 76334 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mornin' < 1378525196 267058 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1378525197 31342 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«$ENV{"XILINX"} = $ENV{"XXILINX"};» haha rock < 1378525197 176874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement, why are you awake < 1378525201 35214 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I awake < 1378525205 5049 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does my back hurt < 1378525216 865257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXXiLinXXX < 1378525252 721635 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I suspect that the breakdown of copyleftiness in this situation was intentional by the person or people who drafted the license < 1378525279 184300 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sabotage????? < 1378525313 752057 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, as in the terms in question seem explicitly intended so that you can ship proprietary Perl programs via use of a custom Perl derivative < 1378525326 543425 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this sort of nonsense is why I'm such a GPL fan < 1378525326 796569 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so um < 1378525339 545504 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«diff file0 file1» would output nothing iff the files are identical, correct? < 1378525344 218122 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the "worse for developers" argument, but the "better for users" is pretty strong < 1378525345 85687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you reverse engineering the xilinx fpga tools < 1378525346 717445 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: indeed < 1378525356 782146 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, um, it appears that all of these programs are identical. < 1378525363 291087 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's more he/she's peeking into them and discovering the horror within < 1378525367 451947 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's why it's reading /proc/self/exe < 1378525368 86421 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in my defense, they're really irritating! < 1378525370 786944 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get at its own name < 1378525375 600642 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: aaaaaah < 1378525383 879933 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm planning to do that in NetHack 4 < 1378525396 729464 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is argv[0] not good enough < 1378525399 119844 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that nethack4-tty and nethack4-sdl are both symlinks to the same executable < 1378525403 861934 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using argv[0] to tell them apart < 1378525410 957589 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably, xilinx cares about readlinking the executable < 1378525418 881982 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you can symlink to the executable without it not working < 1378525428 793847 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's lots of readlinking in the setup, even. < 1378525429 613581 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The MS Paint Adventures server seems to be falling apart < 1378525434 229866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :420 readlink everyday < 1378525455 189734 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are apparently fifty identical executables here. this is what i'm dealing with < 1378525457 508350 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1378525473 974965 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, good thing they're only 20K then < 1378525497 133933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know how Xilinx FPGA works and how to not need their GUI (so that it can be done inside the FPGA itself!) then that would work < 1378525498 955593 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this actually seems like a decent security mechanism < 1378525503 133393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: -r---w---- readlink everyday < 1378525514 340526 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making your code so abysmally painful to think about that anyone competent enough to crack the security doesn't want to try < 1378525519 21509 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well i'm trying to not use their GUI, though i think doing it on the fpga is rather ambitious for me. < 1378525532 872909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1378525538 218615 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: little did they take into account me -- a bored ignorant undergraduate. the ultimate weapon. < 1378525549 540580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: Maybe, but I don't think so. If you want to crack it then you do want to be painful anyways < 1378525560 425657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw mölkky has at least four names in various countries < 1378525584 760878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. number kubb, finska, klop < 1378525626 538005 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, xilperl is one of these 20Ks < 1378525667 380028 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's clearly calling into a different executable somewhere < 1378525680 125350 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah. < 1378525682 543606 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly on the local machine < 1378525703 328126 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378525747 327385 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey, "xilhelp". clearly this is my path to salvation. < 1378525772 645381 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm not sure; the Xilinx tools output lots of incomprehensible errors < 1378525790 13355 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an allegedly human-readable description which was meaningless, and a hyperlinked (at least, blue and underlined) error code < 1378525798 163650 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeedily doo. < 1378525810 368526 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clicking on the code opened a web browser, but the resulting page was never useful < 1378525857 153241 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :running xilhelp resulted in: "error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". i can't say this was very helpful < 1378525889 815885 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just find a copy of libXm.so.4 < 1378525894 685713 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add it to the runtime path < 1378525906 628082 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i want to be helped that badly. < 1378525908 797290 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LD_LIBRARY_PATH, it seems < 1378525947 716523 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, google suggests this is also used by something called "Cognos Business Intelligence" < 1378525950 702524 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ominous imo... < 1378525964 839986 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well nobody names their company "Business Stupidity" < 1378526004 528408 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... part of openmotif. < 1378526006 129471 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. < 1378526052 472407 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, on a webforum I read, somebody accidentally posted on the wrong subforum (a reasonable mistake), and edited the OP into a request to delete the thread (while there were no responses) < 1378526054 701775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess people still use motif. well, what withrawn, i guess. < 1378526060 469014 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a moderator saw it, and responded by stickying the thread < 1378526072 145850 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems to have the potential to end badly < 1378526085 199895 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh? why < 1378526087 586275 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they do that < 1378526091 192309 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1378526134 649809 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people seem to be unsure how to contribute to it < 1378526149 266304 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most posts are either image macros or metadiscussion about the thread itself < 1378526174 969874 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, nobody but the OP seems to know what the thread was originally about) < 1378526189 543671 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«if ( -d "C:/" ) { $Platform = 'windows'; }» < 1378526216 133282 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a variable $^O < 1378526222 653425 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which exists for precisely this purpose < 1378526231 305837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: you do know the most upvoted reddit post ever is "test post please ignore" right? < 1378526246 219471 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1378526254 875705 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's very rare for Perl variables to start with capital letters < 1378526267 894725 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they do, it typically means that they're global for some reason, yet being namespaced to certain packages < 1378526295 307768 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like all the variables are capitalized < 1378526298 210035 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's unlikely to be happening here, because somehow I suspect there isn't a "use Platform;" involve < 1378526300 238955 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*involved < 1378526302 472290 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :$CompedklibDefaultLogFile < 1378526326 554778 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor, if such a package existed, would it likely be necessary to check for Windows by looking for the existence of the root of the C drive < 1378526331 483497 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not just existence < 1378526334 727778 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also checks that it's a directory < 1378526352 690273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The system might not be on drive C though < 1378526357 573857 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably cause chaos by creating a "C:" directory in the current directory < 1378526362 472150 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one of those in my home folder already < 1378526366 755793 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which points to Wine's simulated drive C < 1378526375 871846 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this Xilinx software would fail for me, for completely mysterious reasons < 1378526400 917045 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this file is dated to '96. cool < 1378526414 968341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can fix the parts of the programs that have source-codes available < 1378526433 629862 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my Windows I have the system on drive F: instead of drive C: < 1378526453 826459 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much malware that instantly defeats < 1378526471 47511 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1378527315 126729 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know what /usr/ucb is/ < 1378527316 802936 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is?* < 1378527404 541775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"university of california, berkeley"?? < 1378527473 904846 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1378527519 259239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so < 1378527533 2921 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing is eroding me. < 1378527635 873943 :Nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378527640 678106 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it includes the entire jre. < 1378527656 500736 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: apt-cache hasn't heard of it, which is a bad sign < 1378527665 58004 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twice, in fact, if I'm understanding this correctly < 1378527674 92934 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it needs specific versions < 1378527677 834306 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more than one of them < 1378527679 705940 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, 5 and 6. < 1378527840 754575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have suggested to the DM of a D&D game, a kind of curse in my character (although it can be removed normally). < 1378527970 306895 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378528043 493137 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The demon (well, actually, almost-demon/almost-dragon, stuck in the middle of changing)'s brain is cursed, and now so am I; I no longer automatically heal damage (although spells and so on still work), and I take a -2 penalty to saves against divine spells cast by evil spellcasters. The curse can be removed normally although then I am hungry again. < 1378528204 691627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378528611 226395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People have argued about if FurryScript counts as esolang or not (this was a while ago). However, also notice things like CUTLASS, and Prehistory of esoteric programming languages. Also, Wikipedia mentions "Random text generators such as the Dada Engine and rmutt are examples of this kind of nondeterminstic language." Are Dada Engine and rmutt considered esolangs? < 1378528834 593919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(FurryScript was not *intended* to be strange, it just is! Dada Engine and rmutt aren't so strange, but they also aren't so powerful.) < 1378529009 590158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know the answer of any of these questions at this time? < 1378529664 314671 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What's the scripting that Furcadia uses? < 1378529801 778493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know. < 1378529802 113526 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DragonSpeak < 1378529810 210782 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it is? OK < 1378529829 844320 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378529864 346229 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378529990 734681 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378529990 880132 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378530252 152753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Why do you want to know, and why do you ask me in particular? < 1378530273 433030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because FurryScript sounded like it would be the name < 1378530319 761230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, well, I suppose it isn't. < 1378530369 121500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if FurryScript codes really resemble any other programming languages at all. Does it look like it to you? < 1378530410 636751 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually looked at FurryScript < 1378530470 802129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at it now? < 1378530751 370972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MyOpenID is closing < 1378530885 334927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is? Do you use MyOpenID? < 1378530974 958200 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1378530987 821376 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used MyOpenID for pretty much everything that asks for an OpenID < 1378530998 40832 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the one thing that Google hasn't encroached on in my life < 1378531004 905304 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which... they will now, I guess < 1378531011 481161 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need to switch accounts over if possible, ugh < 1378531126 685379 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I check what compiler a binary was compiled with based on its mangling style? < 1378531157 245683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also run your own OpenID server if you have a server, or see if there is some other OpenID server < 1378531164 489653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I run my own OpenID server) < 1378536125 334142 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378536174 745103 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378538241 576823 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378538382 971567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378539282 163079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You can compare manually to the lists in Chapter 8 of http://www.agner.org/optimize/calling_conventions.pdf < 1378539348 289127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1378539593 588269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, I don't have CallForJudgement -> ais523 in the nick-combine-map of #esoteric in the stats thing. < 1378539608 400368 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can combine "scarf" too < 1378539613 74621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one I have. < 1378539618 890834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ais523\unfoog. < 1378539656 332631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that editing the list would involve rerunning the whole thing, and it takes a long. < 1378539680 849140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I was supposed to combine two things there too, now I've forgotten who. < 1378539979 532821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a CakeProphet the same thing as a kallisti? < 1378540009 710652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :In here it is. < 1378540883 729379 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfoog? < 1378540939 823459 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/null/nethack clan < 1378542529 642204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stats: updated. < 1378542605 641444 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet I've really dropped off recently < 1378542621 936904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1378542631 81985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your presence bitmap has turned into these isolated vertical lines, basically. < 1378542698 431743 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my problem is that nobody seems to want to talk about esolangs < 1378542705 205650 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :offtopic discussion is one thing < 1378542716 303188 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lack of ontopic discussion, though, just means that the channel isn't actually about esoprogramming < 1378542722 822137 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's pointless to come here for esoprogramming discussion < 1378542807 177430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly true. < 1378542846 787170 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the main question is just whether I find the offtopic discussion interesting enough to stick around < 1378542852 87168 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the answer being "not really" < 1378545207 304851 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378545495 415141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Would it help to combine by address instead of nickname? < 1378545730 583526 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1378545736 468305 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :addresses can be unstable < 1378545745 649529 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bunch that need combining, some of which are rarely used < 1378547111 852287 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378547176 987175 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378547706 796855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :On topic is sometimes, but rarely < 1378547767 828502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think FurryScript programs seem to resemble programs in any other programming languages, and if so, which ones, and how much resemblance? < 1378548090 472320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are none that I know of. < 1378548100 508162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But maybe you know better) < 1378548482 737692 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378548698 759889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, how much do the features resemble those of other programming languages? < 1378549649 421584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about the "not provable" operator in Prolog; I was previously thinking of an operator to be added to any sequent calculus, which does something similar. < 1378549703 983634 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you don't need an operator for that < 1378549710 36980 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can implement it in terms of cut < 1378549726 586370 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\+ X :- X, !, fail. \+ _. < 1378549854 898553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CallForJudgement: OK, so you can, but that has nothing to do with the point I was making anyways; rather I meant some operator (I called it an "oracle operator") which, if |- X isn't provable in some sequent calculus system then |- Oracle(X) is an axiom. So it isn't quite the same, although it might be related. < 1378550911 2404 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378552303 574005 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378552395 1412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378552739 71242 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378553148 315966 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378553194 270010 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378553300 314731 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378555828 323106 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378556870 478970 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I note that oerjan cannot distinguish a thread, from thread < 1378556879 786949 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I was being unnecessarily poetic… < 1378563079 298220 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378565438 749310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378565445 673362 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378566064 344305 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378566270 885408 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378566795 176327 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1378567310 104724 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378567644 6566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1378567757 963421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, it's always such a hassle whenever the electricity breaks. < 1378567772 690534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Last time was 475 days ago, so fortunately it's not exactly common.) < 1378567813 267911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time it seems that the BIOS battery of the router box has gone flat, because it was all "defaults set" and "no keyboard, press f1 to continue" when I went and plugged a monitor in to see what's up. < 1378568558 682543 :CallForJudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1378569122 53248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily The USB issue I have seems to be a kernel bug in 3.2 (which I'm running since I'm stable Debian, this might make me go testing or manually build a newer kernel, whichever is least work) < 1378569122 239683 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378569182 907019 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting [428528.396567] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: ERROR no room on ep ring every time I plug or unplug a device on a specific other USB 2 hub < 1378569191 192942 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which affects the USB 3 devices < 1378570699 661802 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: sfhhaac sahahfc ashfhac < 1378570707 895116 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that why fungot is gone? < 1378571295 732375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes. I'll see about getting that system back up soonishly. < 1378571420 688429 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, This Debian package looks pretty silly: linux-image-amd64:i386 < 1378571445 164892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the 64-bit kernel for multiarch x86 < 1378572024 941400 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, should I get an -rt kernel? That sounds cool < 1378572098 331456 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378572497 369003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378574180 305185 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378574245 686647 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378574291 901707 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378574407 862059 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, here goes nothing, just manually build a newer fglrx package for Debian stable. Going to reboot to kernel from backports now < 1378574475 336566 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :your problem is fglrx < 1378575537 186716 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ < 1378576136 49477 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, yes. yes it is. < 1378576168 740689 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, but good luck using more than two monitors with consumer nvidia cards! < 1378576186 208948 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need multiple cards then < 1378576203 691757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's not true any more. < 1378576215 598502 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh? < 1378576226 164845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can run four monitors on my gt660, I believe. < 1378576226 310051 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it 660 GTX? Something like that, anyway. < 1378576233 651401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1378576249 814719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, think I can run 5 on mine, though I only use 3 currently < 1378576269 376643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were limited to two but bumped that up to 4 in the 6xx series, or something approximately like that. < 1378576275 260917 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1378576323 155119 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do those cards have 4/5 connectors too, or can you like split DVI cables and connect several screens? < 1378576356 480697 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, mine? It has 5: 2x DVI (one I and one D), 1x HDMI, 2x DP < 1378576423 845536 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway it works fine now, after a couple of reboots fixing kernel parameters and such < 1378576466 703087 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the number of supported screens really just depends on the number of connectors? < 1378576489 178526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Not entirely, they've had >2 connectors for a while on NVidia cards without supporting >2 monitors. < 1378576511 951872 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378576537 687578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You also need enough of the per-display hardware, like clock signal generators and whatnot, to support all connectors simultaneously.) < 1378576551 719880 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : so the number of supported screens really just depends on the number of connectors? <-- mine is AMD though < 1378576620 837074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: And sometimes it's not a clear number, e.g. it's something like "at most X DVI monitors and Y DisplayPort ones, except if your DP-to-DVI adapter is active instead of passive". < 1378576652 338534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If they don't have enough of the things that generate the TMDS signal for DVI panels.) < 1378576668 989719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep that happens too < 1378576726 787277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my card has one DVI-I, one DVI-D, one HDMI and one DP connector. < 1378576731 765419 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds complicated, I'm glad I'm happy with only two screens < 1378576778 118249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I don't have that "onboard Radeon + discrete NVidia card" three-monitor setup any more, now *that* was a can of worms. < 1378576843 513810 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds terrbile < 1378576845 579830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible* < 1378576860 563821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't even run Xinerama on it, it just crashed all the time. < 1378576876 226368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just ran old-fashioned X multihead then.) < 1378576876 371695 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I use onboard intel + discrete nivida quadro chipset at work for builtin + two external (from the laptop dock) < 1378576896 828392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's onboard Intel on this too, the Haswell integrated one. < 1378576899 957926 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, doesn't work with all there unless I turn on that intel+nvidia thing in the bios < 1378576942 756836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think some kind of Optimus thing? At least Chromium chrome://gpu says "Optimus: true" and blacklists all 3D stuff. :p < 1378576952 439665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Drivers are unreliable for Optimus on Linux.: 131308" < 1378576979 427031 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ugh, that bad? < 1378576989 77171 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the laptops I've been considering have optimus < 1378577005 513310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems that the bug has Status: fixed in Sep-2012, so maybe my Chromium is just very old. < 1378577057 996042 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, chrome doesn't play well with optimus on linux < 1378577083 704743 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only use the discrete card here, though. Wouldn't I have to have the displays connected to the integrated GPU for actual Optimus to happen, even? < 1378577127 516066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was under the assumption the final image always went through that even with a discrete GPU in use.) < 1378577132 686853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all so confusing these days. < 1378577145 450557 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's how it works as I understand it < 1378577174 388701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the xrandr -q result quite often seems to have nothing to do with the actually existing physical connectors; in my case, I have the outputs DVI-I-0 (does not exist), DVI-I-1 (exists), HDMI-0 (exists), DP-0 and DP-1 (presumably one of them exists) and DVI-D-0. < 1378577216 454634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was something equally imaginary on the Intel graphics at work, I think. < 1378577238 703934 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently xrandr thinks I have a single large screen < 1378577295 1271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old nvidia proprietary driver used to be like that. < 1378577311 302297 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378577315 799941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it had different modes indicated by fake refresh rates, or something like that. < 1378577330 725239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because the dimensions of the bounding box aren't necessarily unique.) < 1378577395 784580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's still a single large "Screen" (for the X definition of "Screen") for xrandr-age multihead, but there's the different outputs listed. < 1378577483 32379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, the CPU fan on the router box is being incredibly noisy. Probably about to break. < 1378577583 814134 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=131308 -- looks like the "fix" is to blacklist it < 1378577660 959262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't read it all that closely. I was just assuming. < 1378577685 111828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly it just goes "GPU thread hung up" and re-disables it if I --ignore-gpu-blacklist. < 1378577731 721775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or do the chrome://flags thing.) < 1378577910 7296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is broken, while watching flash video (youtube) the FPS of glxgrears (using forced vsync and "tear free desktop") drops to like 5. Pausing the video gives me the expected 60 FPS < 1378577919 278005 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :New on this kernel version < 1378578076 789860 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit scary how browsers are dependent on reliable secure gpu drivers nowadays < 1378578110 227128 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the gpu blacklist is out of date and your driver has a bug, webgl gets a free pass to all your computer < 1378578125 110634 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378578179 848257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to sort out dependency issues with 32-bit libs after the upgrade < 1378578206 530903 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot like the browser itself, granted, but at least browser makers have 20 years of dealing with broken web pages < 1378578237 877771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than 20 years of cheating the latest gpu benchmark and making shortcuts for the popular games, and freely assuming they only deal with code that the user has already bought and/or decided to trust < 1378578514 140027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1378578566 870895 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't basically every security type person say webgl is an awful idea ages ago? < 1378578578 164678 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah it is < 1378578596 689220 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really the problem isn't webgl in particular, the problem is that at this point every piece of code has to be written for security < 1378578601 956694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it... isn't < 1378578608 850784 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a security type person so I'm probably late to that party but yes < 1378578615 771272 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nothing isn't exposed over the network nowadays < 1378578751 263388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also the xrandr -q result quite often seems to have nothing to do with the actually existing physical connectors; in my case, I have the outputs DVI-I-0 (does not exist), DVI-I-1 (exists), HDMI-0 (exists), DP-0 and DP-1 (presumably one of them exists) and DVI-D-0. <-- quite, I have DFP1 to DFP7 plus CRT1 < 1378579030 47120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378579042 951269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn them all on and stash your porn windows on the invisible screens < 1378579097 48777 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1378579114 915312 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems I'm using DFP5-DFP7 < 1378580269 320864 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378581286 643322 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378581291 279214 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378581326 529496 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378581456 379445 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378581491 222967 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 NICK :Bike < 1378583381 416920 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378583390 350911 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378583532 30458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378583574 982136 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the esoteric programming world doing? < 1378583644 64035 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :explosively < 1378583857 300493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome baordog < 1378583865 608159 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13ba04ordog: Welc10ome to t06he intern07ational hub 12fo09r 06es12oteric p06rogra12mmin08g lan07gu09age desi13gn and de07plo05yment! For more i05nformatio03n, check ou04t our w08i07ki: 06http://esolangs.org/wiki/06Main04_Pa08ge. (For the03 13other kind10 of esoterica, try #esoteric o07n irc.dal08.net.13) < 1378583898 565381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember in like 2003 getting the ability to hook up my computer to the (analog, CRT) television and it was so awesome < 1378583950 298042 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378584022 553846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching pirated 320x240 simpsons episodes over s-video < 1378584032 282484 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378584048 448215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :downloaded from KaZaA < 1378584058 995007 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, the future < 1378584085 616421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some downloaded from IRC < 1378584086 68170 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378584095 259913 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378584175 305253 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378584496 126501 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to write some code < 1378584502 334665 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc is still like the fastest piracy i've used `-` < 1378584668 556897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet Act of 1996 passed into law by Bill Clinton says you must disconnect IMMEDIATELY from this DCC if you are affiliated with any law enforcement agency! < 1378584791 514115 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378584793 39773 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378584810 971888 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As almost half of that list, I say thank you < 1378584835 964931 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hahh, did they really say things like that? < 1378584923 907768 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's why intel cards exist < 1378584936 503318 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, hm? < 1378584938 798937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1378584942 931131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378584949 680869 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, I also use OpenGL and OpenCL though < 1378584962 886672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Intel cards? < 1378585026 143933 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, tripple screens I think, if it is the same conversation < 1378585056 717036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378585063 71051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my last triple monitor system just had two nvidia cards < 1378585070 79035 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did the internet act create the internet < 1378585073 204407 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much power usage < 1378585081 474397 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is that quote from anyway kmc? < 1378585093 569502 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet, obviously < 1378585097 163468 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: al gore joke < 1378585237 278343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's my paraphrase of the kinds of things the piracy DCC bots would say when you connect to them < 1378585278 420542 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, heh < 1378585305 807361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to tell me if you're a cop < 1378585313 714647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the constitution < 1378585320 293329 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378585349 856783 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what about under cover stuff < 1378585359 669823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about t < 1378585368 923770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do they have to tell too? < 1378585378 642922 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that would defeat the point wouldn't it? < 1378585379 647540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that there is no such rule at all < 1378585388 283100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cops can freely lie about being cops (or most other things) < 1378585398 461642 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, makes a lot more sense < 1378585414 983557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a common misconception among dumb criminals (or maybe just a trope of the existence of such a misconception) < 1378585423 193226 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the entrapment rules vary quite a bit by country < 1378585428 636960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I mean in the US < 1378585435 59761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1378585440 739458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote an application with a GUI in Haskell and now I'm way too proud of myself to try and do a bigger one < 1378585445 460874 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's it work in other countries, actually < 1378585448 151567 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure there are some rules preventing some of that in Sweden for example yeah < 1378585455 915798 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that cops pose on hacker forums all the time < 1378585459 192085 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding is that US cops can lie but not make fake offers < 1378585467 68754 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly certain german cops have to admit they are cops if directly questioned < 1378585475 128733 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi baordog, you new here? < 1378585481 90287 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup :) < 1378585484 351428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "entrapment" in the US is defined pretty strictly and basically has to include you committing a crime that you wouldn't otherwise < 1378585486 833403 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome baordog < 1378585489 489816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if the cops coerce you into it < 1378585489 634921 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12b05aordog: Welcom05e 07to 12the14 int14ernational hu06b for13 esote03ric 13program10ming langua14ge design and deployment! For 04more 06i10nformation, chec13k13 out our wiki: htt09p://e10so10lang09s.12org/wiki/Main11_Page. (F04or 08the other kind of esot10erica,14 try 02#esoteri08c on irc.05dal.net.) < 1378585493 323690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not if they just suggest it < 1378585506 908552 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they make it look extremly appealing < 1378585507 54226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because anyone who would sell drugs under a mere suggestion was probably going to anyway? < 1378585513 420294 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378585516 948817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's also the thing where constitutional rights don't really apply in drug cases < 1378585517 862236 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines cop badgering people to buy a dirty bomb
< 1378585520 514357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other kind of rights < 1378585525 516410 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cop tries REALLY HARD to convince someone to sell them drugs < 1378585530 2893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you don't build that dirty bomb you're a total pussy < 1378585535 920171 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that a lot of hacker cases in the U.S don't actually end up sticking, because the evidence is gathered in such circumspect ways < 1378585537 442097 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you're a drug dealer that can be your defence < 1378585542 882848 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have to pester you to do business with you < 1378585546 169993 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I didn't want to be a pussy, man" < 1378585574 280286 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a wonderful book called "dark market" on the subject < 1378585582 502605 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: basically https://twitter.com/NotANark < 1378585613 661292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone tries really hard to convince you to sell them drugs, then you should photograph them and bind them. < 1378585637 424312 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rotfl < 1378585714 61198 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading http://www.basiccomic.com
< 1378586181 846108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote If someone tries really hard to convince you to sell them drugs, then you should photograph them and bind them. < 1378586186 185079 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1102) If someone tries really hard to convince you to sell them drugs, then you should photograph them and bind them. < 1378586249 186799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bind them to what < 1378586272 72953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To jail. < 1378586276 886763 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1378586279 532660 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh, kmc. < 1378586280 971192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1378586285 865715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote If someone tries really hard to convince you to sell them drugs, then you should photograph them and bind them. bind them to what To jail. < 1378586290 297694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1102) If someone tries really hard to convince you to sell them drugs, then you should photograph them and bind them. bind them to what To jail. < 1378586306 770647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are a police officer then you should post the picture in a database of undercover police officers. < 1378586317 431501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretend to be a drug dealer but never have any or sell any to anyone. < 1378586338 58041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : 187 ON AN UNDERCOVER COP < 1378586500 326969 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378586716 598063 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Numeri&curid=8998&diff=37100&oldid=37095 this edit is really good < 1378586805 524510 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people with autocensors are the best/worst < 1378586827 844634 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a ban-them-forever policy? probably should, they never seem to get better < 1378586828 198687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that chrome plugin which replaces "The Cloud" with "My Butt" and it sometimes makes its way into wiki edits < 1378587268 99660 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378588438 115532 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378588559 413710 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378591986 112640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378592004 329257 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378592151 748681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1378592430 10932 :ldecimuxZ!~canaima@186.93.221.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378592451 419090 :ldecimuxZ!~canaima@186.93.221.31 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378592492 610454 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378592501 92457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You've been gone a while, how are you feeling? < 1378592502 263295 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's a unicode character and got... well. i find myself writing things like fnord optimization or things like that very often, so it's the same < 1378592520 18131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that counts as "fine", then. < 1378592530 14333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worse than usual. < 1378592633 328841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, from #elsewhere, but amusing: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=58a7611ccfda88c7cbcc62b25b787d6b0fa64081&utm_source=anzwix < 1378592656 981422 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378592671 496713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes one of the mezzacotta characters seems to have eir markov chain based on the book of mormon.
< 1378592680 127692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The parent commit being: [Revert "sna: Add XMir support"].) < 1378593003 518800 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's xmir and why do they even care? < 1378593134 797916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(display_server_protocol) < 1378593179 398325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like canonical managed to find a way to use gplv3 to be _less_ open source friendly :P < 1378593230 42956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the future. Well, one of the futures. < 1378593267 283894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume canonical owns ubuntu itself and so can put xmir there, but _neither_ upstream nor downstream distributions want anything to do with this. < 1378593298 701928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION also has never quite managed to learn the difference between upstream and downstream.
< 1378593313 834250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just look at which way the stuff flows. < 1378593325 86417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1378593331 371669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like homespring < 1378593376 642323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am guessing debian and xorg are upstream and {k,x,l}ubuntu are downstream in this case. < 1378593539 753919 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378593577 78011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression they owned kubuntu too, but apparently that's no longer true. < 1378593688 239653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Is a CakeProphet the same thing as a kallisti? <-- i think nineinchbread also < 1378593710 397710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's, unfortunately, too late. Hopefully that's not a too-much-used name. < 1378593746 497859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey just put it in the todo list for next release < 1378593816 476278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeKallisti < 1378595327 198571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 35° today :'( < 1378595334 703783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1378595342 818191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 24 here < 1378595353 750458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 28 in my house for some reason < 1378595498 500629 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should make the bot report the weather < 1378595516 326123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How's it in the noisy room? < 1378595516 664862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www-i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ fnord/ fnord < 1378595522 452194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :O...kay. < 1378595756 472895 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378596005 832857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The URL /fnord/fnord was not found on this server. < 1378596006 274581 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why not just put multiple inheritence into condition types? < 1378596021 407243 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll try that, thanks < 1378596022 38085 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: lambda associates home page says it won't be much fun.) hmm, nearly got fnord actually, want to see < 1378596179 480508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oerjan.nvg.org/fnord/fnord/fnord/ < 1378596223 348435 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did it sayyyyyy?????????? < 1378596226 951167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies of worry
< 1378596261 397649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i made a lethal web page?!?!?!!!11ELEVEN < 1378596321 874086 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it was (is) information about England < 1378596344 708710 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378596347 510002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1378596352 894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION comes back to life
< 1378596409 102254 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :todo: create the qaskell programming language < 1378596429 743394 :dfdfdf!~kcd@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378596551 189865 :dfdfdf!~kcd@101.255.24.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378596573 927037 :dfdfdf!~kcd@101.255.24.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378597517 565995 :dfdfdf!~kcd@101.255.24.142 QUIT : < 1378600183 421195 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378601654 167142 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378601765 668965 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378601779 838560 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378602190 21284 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://anagramatron.tumblr.com/ < 1378603620 609378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378607710 346540 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378608528 295320 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378608710 464300 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378608712 35673 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378610345 914690 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I obsessed by cpu design :o < 1378610416 801728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because you were a computer in your previous life < 1378610462 263332 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378612580 923831 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378612605 295577 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378612605 441078 :kallisti!~eris@c-24-99-220-130.hsd1.ga.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1378612605 441206 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1378613123 35470 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know Ada ? < 1378613138 21823 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo knows a bit, I think. < 1378613147 544191 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, do you know if Long_Long_Integer'Last is uniform across implementations ? < 1378613168 587004 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ^ < 1378614336 154578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's all I remember about ada: x and y or z is invalid, you need parens like (x and y) or z < 1378614360 107714 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not that helpful hee < 1378614362 2406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1378616079 598458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1378616731 549908 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378616984 494976 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378617272 238389 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378617298 948191 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378617330 877971 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378617351 449257 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378617643 17889 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378618011 984934 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378618398 329442 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378618680 934581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: seems like a reasonable rule < 1378618706 329760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm definitely in favor of languages having fewer complicated precedence rules and more "put in some damn parentheses" parse errors < 1378618718 908120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in totally the opposite direction, I saw a proposal for using horizontal whitespace for this < 1378618725 839542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that a+b * c would be different from a + b*c < 1378618751 68589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "as" casting operator in Rust ended up between + and * in the hierarchy because people kept getting confused and modifying the compiler to move it < 1378618776 404746 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of hate the whitespace thing. < 1378618791 710085 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378618836 954999 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ada was more or less intended to be rock-solid in a easier-to-understand and harder-to-make-bugs sense, I think < 1378618841 806415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a / b * c+d < 1378618845 667498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it actually succeeded < 1378618917 964156 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://archive.adaic.com/standards/83rat/html/ratl-03-06.html < 1378619094 960941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378620086 425827 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1378621579 63149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blaha /me abc < 1378621579 246281 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blaha / < 1378621579 246377 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :me abc < 1378621584 223981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa /me abc < 1378621584 381813 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa < 1378621584 527159 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1378621601 599730 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hax < 1378621606 283118 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, it ignores the IRC line length and splits its own way. < 1378623690 449076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1378625270 285954 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378625353 862612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out that bit-banging serial protocols from Python on Linux on a 700 MHz 32-bit processor is a lot slower than from a C program with no OS on a 16 MHz 8-bit processor < 1378625359 495790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not really surprising, but still a pain < 1378625378 442910 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378625533 573392 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378626479 793512 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378626550 365858 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378626746 729419 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378627820 597479 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378628109 77207 :lsrike!65701902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.25.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378628127 144102 :lsrike!65701902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.25.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this issue with this Piet esoteric language. I have a foreach loop that upon each iteration increments the output with a value. I want this value to be an input rather than a variable. Here is my code so far: http://i.imgur.com/dfBkOFD.png < 1378628291 70483 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378628610 993689 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lsrike, well, you need to make it an input rather than a variable, then < 1378628638 702461 :lsrike!65701902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.25.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how? < 1378628685 646214 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :To input a number, it's 4 hue steps and 2 shades darker < 1378629190 201234 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378629260 903261 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378629512 483085 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378629524 330325 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1378629535 894285 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 259 seconds < 1378629698 509797 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378629701 879220 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378635667 917241 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378635698 992036 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378636052 239661 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378637309 779381 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378637350 244437 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378637606 931984 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378638126 721098 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378638195 241944 :lsrike!65701902@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.112.25.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1378638441 363834 :nooodl_!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378638636 51213 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378638651 582428 :nooodl_!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1378638693 686500 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378638702 324527 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378638843 214291 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378638872 730612 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :``Fort Pannerden (a military fort built in 1869) was evicted on November 8, 2006, by a massive police operation which used military machinery and cost one million euros. The squatters then re-squatted the fort on November 26'' < 1378638876 624374 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `Fort: not found < 1378639691 582131 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378640180 770559 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378642003 334759 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378643872 105015 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378646780 197880 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378646836 722762 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378648172 241133 :Solain!54e4798e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.121.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378648183 59745 :Solain!54e4798e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.121.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1378648231 817409 :Solain!54e4798e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.228.121.142 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378648350 954164 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1378648614 999831 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378649255 298770 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378650238 937790 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378651532 944555 :kallisti!~eris@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1378652208 965130 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1378652227 784043 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I invoke the wrath of myndzi < 1378652230 808343 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1378652230 953559 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378652231 293855 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ ¦ c.c.c | < 1378652231 483529 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<  c.c  >\ /| |   |    /<  c.c /|     |    /| |´¸¨ c.c /`\ < 1378652232 218408 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /'¯|_)              /'\ < 1378652232 486045 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_|                 (_| |_) < 1378652235 126967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| < 1378652796 349250 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi doesn't seem very wrathful < 1378653023 854420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| < 1378653024 28593 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   | < 1378653024 230645 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   >\ < 1378653031 151267 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1378653031 424568 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     c.c.c < 1378653031 584127 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      c.c < 1378653048 239825 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net NICK :Tanneb < 1378653052 170954 :Tanneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| < 1378653052 637187 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1378653052 782583 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/| < 1378653063 493359 :Tanneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1378653074 145063 :Tanneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1378654876 798323 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ doesn't work any more < 1378654895 4745 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o| < 1378654895 277499 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | < 1378654895 461759 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/'\ < 1378654899 815372 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what was that up there < 1378655165 221661 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :\m/ \m/ < 1378655167 876931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : \m/ \m/ < 1378655168 147480 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    `\o/´69 < 1378655168 361889 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      | < 1378655168 507881 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  (_|¯'¯|_) < 1378655631 334120 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378658499 936508 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378659188 939928 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378660251 815005 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378660515 379213 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378660566 903664 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378661856 12022 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is the wrathfuleast < 1378662042 370799 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is c.c < 1378662042 715885 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                c.c.c < 1378662042 880377 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 c.c < 1378662072 273614 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiocular c < 1378662084 679741 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1378662447 467430 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :disco ball < 1378662797 334881 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378663060 272317 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378663088 18547 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378663580 23021 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378663594 277433 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378664259 731798 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist roxy < 1378664262 106937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist roxy: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378666267 547757 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378666276 699964 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378666312 981207 :copumpkin!~textual@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Client Quit < 1378666321 969528 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378668576 940788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular c.c! < 1378668577 299195 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69        c.c.c < 1378668577 444906 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         c.c < 1378668616 137308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c is a CMU-ism I think; it's like eyes looking away < 1378668621 898047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :verbal equivalent might be "uh...." < 1378668628 343218 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378668635 605413 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ɔ.ɔ < 1378668673 940978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like "don't worry if you get a call about me from the FBI tomorrow" "c.c" < 1378668702 714984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and multiocular O is the most rare and exotic glyph variant of Cyrillic letter O; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O < 1378668803 300415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean to say "Cyrillic letter О" < 1378669138 29069 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Сyrillic < 1378669202 576423 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c.c.p < 1378669203 211139 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c.c < 1378669203 356779 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c < 1378669217 386947 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : o.o < 1378669241 544083 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1378669256 695415 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   c.c.c < 1378669256 840747 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    c.c < 1378669290 896009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you need a 6 letter nick < 1378669293 730548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I copy-pasted from Wikipedia < 1378669299 87811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably yes < 1378669305 628202 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : с.с < 1378669308 157825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Оh. < 1378669340 365691 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREAKING NEWS: incorrect information detected on Wikipedia < 1378669586 556992 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :СОЯЯЕСТ ІТ ИОШ < 1378669711 567923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378669939 243810 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378671226 220340 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378671279 947754 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1378671301 952183 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1378671686 865120 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 267 seconds < 1378672662 993942 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378673061 956330 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1378673108 328867 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378673344 662696 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378673452 113780 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378673512 108056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378674265 675458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378674443 806322 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378675629 40066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa /me abc < 1378675629 226155 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa < 1378675629 226349 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION abc
< 1378675633 501398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1378675672 926177 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I suggest not thinking about it. that's what I decided. < 1378675706 56971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa /part I suggest you fix it instead. < 1378675706 242316 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahaaa < 1378675706 242506 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :/part I suggest you fix it instead. < 1378675712 260342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :P < 1378675716 527914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it's a special case in the code for /me. < 1378675731 980960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1378675760 877015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it would need an #esoteric anyway, i guess. < 1378675794 295764 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ what is this new / @ command? < 1378675794 440875 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" < 1378675796 537485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok i think i concur with your suggestion. < 1378675807 603230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it is not new. < 1378675822 225510 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ what is this previously unknowned by me / command? < 1378675822 370590 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" < 1378675824 111058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help @ < 1378675824 256290 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : @@ [args]. < 1378675824 401533 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : @@ executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used. < 1378675824 401707 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The commands are right associative. < 1378675824 401809 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : For example: @@ @pl @undo code < 1378675824 401913 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the same as: @@ (@pl (@undo code)) < 1378675940 797697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :?help ? < 1378675940 981963 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? [args]. < 1378675941 127443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? executes plugin invocations in its arguments, parentheses can be used. < 1378675941 127631 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : The commands are right associative. < 1378675941 127737 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : For example: ?? ?pl ?undo code < 1378675941 127841 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : is the same as: ?? (?pl (?undo code)) < 1378675946 312698 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378675952 669823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@? what if i just want to be contrary? < 1378675952 815054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `compose' failed with: Unknown command: "" < 1378675968 268032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378676157 902824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: would you get angry with me if i told Solain to be more patient before quitting? < 1378676165 349739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* @told < 1378676182 277609 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378676195 337833 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Solain < 1378676197 948516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378676218 287951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hm what is this < 1378676219 794854 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what is this? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378676220 129018 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      | < 1378676220 318959 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    o/`¯º < 1378676225 337453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then < 1378676232 155195 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/Solain < 1378676234 615694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/Solain: No such file or directory < 1378676236 985220 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/solain < 1378676238 500636 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378676262 127501 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should fix cat up so it behaves like ? when reading a file from wisdom/ < 1378676276 31507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i was just wondering if someone had changed something to use that picture by default, since it has happened before. < 1378676287 427198 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also wondering the same thing < 1378676322 975746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? / < 1378676325 233932 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /: Is a directory < 1378676329 293578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1378676345 258655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh of course it's ls which is specialized. < 1378676479 404430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Solain Most people aren't watching the irc channels all the time, so quitting after just a minute because no one responded is a bit short. :) < 1378676479 549630 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378676507 29055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i just realized that also applies to elliott answering my question. oh well. < 1378676510 691571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now I've gotten angry with you. < 1378676545 409941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's ok you don't have ops < 1378676562 542078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in channels that matter hth < 1378676728 143096 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you really don't need elliott's approval to talk to people < 1378676782 606260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1378676886 130619 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you do and we both get banned for subvertive behaviour < 1378676901 459538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: alt. you can fix that < 1378677008 292871 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378677165 240850 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378677234 988456 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378677569 818073 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378678026 234383 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678026 594111 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678026 594245 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678026 885802 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 50805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 50953 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 198301 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 198491 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 343758 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 489179 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678027 489323 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 398682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 398806 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 399025 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 399096 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 689548 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 689617 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spwbdopgfsaxucfx QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678028 857779 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678029 2996 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378678181 463449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :splat < 1378678262 709975 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once more I'm on the living side of the split < 1378678267 325879 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like the chosen one < 1378678276 374523 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never been split out of my side < 1378678288 86428 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-aloud < 1378678288 273830 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc said 2d 21h 50m 7s ago: I think && and || are just special cased in the language, as in most languages < 1378678311 446700 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes *I guessed so* < 1378678323 903202 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: from their side of the split you're on the dead side of the split < 1378678366 50692 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking nonsense olsner < 1378678702 856694 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678703 42104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678712 848204 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c1edd0.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678712 993536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678712 993622 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678712 993654 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678723 417999 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c1edd0.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378678760 130486 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276120 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276257 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276409 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276483 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spwbdopgfsaxucfx JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678760 276589 :wolfe.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +o HackEgo : > 1378678760 298567 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378678771 878056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23326 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23477 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23554 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23628 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23703 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378678772 23776 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378679065 267500 :baordog!~chatzilla@ool-18bc8a34.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378679068 353149 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378679123 117170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Wait... That's how split works. You can't die because of a split. =/ < 1378679139 111220 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you count being on the side where Services are as "being on the living side" < 1378679180 540717 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never been on the dead side so I'm really not sure what happens there < 1378679189 225305 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'm pretty sure the other half was marked as having quitted < 1378679215 48311 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Yeah, and from their side you're the one who quit =P < 1378679215 855649 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: so i'm gonna assume you're just jalous and making stuff up < 1378679315 500610 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: But that's not how netsplits woooork >_> < 1378679401 97895 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what proof do you have? < 1378679422 343239 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner just admitted he didn't have any < 1378679506 522387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was on the other side, once < 1378679509 977689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone quit < 1378679513 612284 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was very odd < 1378679516 246781 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very, very odd < 1378679567 926162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure only my irssi session exists and the rest of the universe is an illusion < 1378679662 753906 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We're just irssi scripts. Well, I am, anyway < 1378679831 267341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of us aren't even trying to hide it \o/ < 1378679831 849230 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          | < 1378679832 100326 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                          >\ < 1378679962 930951 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/ have to trest with multiple \o/s < 1378680101 624413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FAIL < 1378680159 225680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate DO IT LIKE THIS < 1378680159 371037 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378680159 817151 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1378680160 87050 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c  |\ /< |   |     |\ c.c  |\    |    /| | |\ c.c /< < 1378680160 768165 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´\              (_|¯'\ < 1378680160 913631 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_| |_)                 |_) < 1378680524 348208 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooooo what am I looking at? < 1378680622 940204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :three multiocular c.c and two \m/ \m/ and some \o| through |o/ and some other people < 1378680631 233388 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378680637 42501 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 c.c.c         `\o/´69            |           | < 1378680637 187933 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  c.c            |              >\         /'\ < 1378680653 186655 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                /´\ < 1378680653 332193 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                              (_| |_) < 1378680681 497065 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular c.c OKAY < 1378680688 129649 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          c.c.c < 1378680688 274875 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           c.c < 1378680700 749657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know myndzi's line length was that big < 1378680728 244082 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378680735 371351 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did get a bit worried when it didn't respond for 11 seconds < 1378680755 929192 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1378680778 375793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1378680789 658105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was surprised when it _did_ respond, as i thought you'd gone past the allowed line length. < 1378680810 306140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome myanon < 1378680813 606714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10myano03n: Welc10ome to the international hub for esoteric 08programming l08anguage design and deplo02y06men05t! 04Fo02r more i03n12formatio08n, c13heck out our10 wiki13: http:/06/esol10angs.or05g/wi11ki/Main_Page. (For 08the12 04other kin02d of esote06rica, try10 #esoter12ic on irc.d06a06l.net.05) < 1378680993 760541 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering about an oddity when going to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Turing_complete ... The list doesn't include Bitwise Cyclic Tag, but click (next 200) at bottom of page, then (previous 200), and there it is! Pretty strange. < 1378681045 757942 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes category pages are obscure < 1378681082 546398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: hm i'm not seeing what you are seeing, it's in the right spot for me. < 1378681095 444581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1378681101 742355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread your instructions < 1378681172 641514 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378681178 101338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an allowed line lenght? < 1378681198 880528 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378681203 212842 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, all line lengths are forbidden! < 1378681205 896525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i thought there was some limit. but maybe i remember wrong. < 1378681208 533254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1378681217 746245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: anyway, i didn't manage to see your problem. < 1378681227 425880 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll just c.c until the cows go home, then. < 1378681227 684583 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                c.c.c < 1378681227 830329 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 c.c < 1378681347 366327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: ok i see that the category was added only four days ago. i suspect there was something in cache or database that hadn't been updated properly, and it was somehow recalculated when you went back to it. < 1378681363 706565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so from now it should work properly. < 1378681378 581631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(added to the BCT article, that is.) < 1378681446 64772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand this can sometimes happen with category pages. < 1378681464 5871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are Weird < 1378681475 886587 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378681588 302124 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sometimes" < 1378681600 674912 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ... I just tried it again using both Chrome and IE ... clicking the Turing Complete category link (or using the one I just posted) gives repeatable behavior ... Bitwise Cyclic Tag doesn't appear on the opening page (should be between BiTrax and Blind), then it mysteriously shows up by clicking Next then Previous 200. < 1378681612 121953 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got that problem for basically any language that's been added to a category in the past several months < 1378681664 904979 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except if the category was added when the page was created rather than in a later edit) < 1378681730 725626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. i think this is elliott's problem :P < 1378681768 929645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: what happens if you reload explicitly? < 1378681771 28944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it always? < 1378681779 812946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: of course < 1378681829 209375 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ... same thing if I explicitly hit Reload in the browser -- it's missing until I do the Next/Previous thing. < 1378681865 72267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shift-Reload? (or is it Ctrl- i can never remember the difference, or if there even is one.) < 1378681877 161702 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try ... < 1378681949 476031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make sense for plain Reload not to work if the category pages don't keep track of when their content changes properly. < 1378682000 790733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because plain Reload (as well as restarting the browser i think) only reloads if the server tells the browser that the page has changed since the browser visited it. < 1378682032 958667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if this is the case then wiping your browser cache should also work. < 1378682154 391852 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ... with Chrome, none of these have an effect: F5, Shift-F5, Ctrl-F5 (these last two "overide the cache", according to the Chrome website) < 1378682267 481690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. i'm using IE 10 btw. < 1378682290 583867 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember shift or ctrl, usually try both < 1378682295 593860 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think only one works in firefox < 1378682305 406568 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :in chrome, i have dev tools set to disable cache < 1378682309 612715 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can just open dev tools and refresh < 1378682333 346719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _do_ have a vague feeling they do the same thing in IE. < 1378682362 543113 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ... I've tried the latest Chrome and IE10 ... same behavior -- are you not getting this behavior at all? < 1378682367 831517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1378682414 989871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen Bitwise Cyclic Tag in the right spot every time - but i forgot to look before doing Next 200 the first time, since i misread your instruction. < 1378682471 430506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait! < 1378682522 657333 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378682541 555018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: i see it when i log out from my account first! < 1378682555 891415 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378682565 30122 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: btw you were probably right about google suggestions; I realized afterwards I was talking about google results < 1378682589 518840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: OK MAYBE I DON'T HAVE TO KILL YOU ALL ANYWAY THEN < 1378682593 28673 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW it works ... I hadn't bothered to log in, and when I did, the mysterious behavior goes away. It reappears if I log out! < 1378682605 709314 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378682627 567176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, new explanation: elliott has set up caching for non-logged in pages. < 1378682628 537861 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah hum I'm afraid you still have to since you didn't call my bluff the first time < 1378682655 216388 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have, but it should expire properly? < 1378682672 709956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but maybe not within 4 days? < 1378682676 297758 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend, with notice, to call every bluff ever made. < 1378682681 928260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: DARN < 1378682705 327765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Koen_ says he has that problem for older pages than that < 1378682710 35669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it should expire immediately-ish when it should expire < 1378682744 795718 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wenn I don't remember if there's a distinction between being logged in or not, and I haven't checked for at least six months < 1378682750 69099 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1378682800 369148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the new urls for the Rflct links aren't loading properly either, but at least the host supposedly exists.
< 1378682823 26680 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the {{deadlink}} didn't get removed! < 1378682826 6455 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just updated dead links. < 1378682831 441261 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't it very strange that this is apparently only happening with Bitwise Cyclic Tag (which happens to be a page that I created)??? < 1378682884 921646 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, you are r.e.s.? < 1378682892 504759 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1378682898 309380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i know. i hope they'll load occasionally. :) < 1378682910 661468 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool! I was wondering where you went, years ago < 1378682962 102567 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stop by here occasionally, but haven't really participated for quite a while. < 1378682965 867260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: it's not strange because it was the last page to have a category updated. < 1378682983 950053 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan ... ahhh, I see < 1378683039 456551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: perhaps the expiry is calculated wrong for category pages? < 1378683051 10638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it only includes the actual category text, or something. < 1378683084 818856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose we could test by editing that. < 1378683161 515780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanon: try reloading now. < 1378683231 615841 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice ... now it works whether logged in or out ... thanks for all your trouble! < 1378683252 782587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but elliott still needs to fix the underlying problem :P < 1378683443 206120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if this caching bug would also affect template inclusions.
< 1378683843 187717 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time for me to go ... everyone have a good day, and thanks for doing whatever you can about the "bug". < 1378683905 791712 :myanon!6023f29b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.35.242.155 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1378684323 692440 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378684630 459642 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378685432 486722 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1378686169 266489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptography fans might find this interesting http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1517 < 1378686257 464863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What was long a plausible conjecture—that the NSA covertly influences cryptographic standards to give itself backdoors, and that otherwise-inexplicable vulnerabilities in deployed cryptosystems are sometimes there because the NSA wanted them there—now looks close to an established fact." < 1378686261 6923 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378686399 54127 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ugh why does he have to give probabilities like that < 1378686427 911805 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378686428 773564 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do you think you're fooling, you're clearly just using 99% as a convenient rhetorical default < 1378686431 163720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW < 1378686483 769034 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378686584 72961 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378686903 670523 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm about to say something very stupid < 1378686941 292480 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to implement multiplication for numbers-as-strings-of-digits quite recently and I've read a few articles about multiplications algorithms < 1378686970 745642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it may have been because I was missing a lot of sleep but at several points I was under the impression that their explanations about complexity were wrong < 1378686987 366702 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378687002 444095 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance they were calculating the complexity in function of the number of digits of a number n < 1378687022 347925 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes ended with a conclusion "therefore this algorithm is O(n^3)" < 1378687043 465657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's a stupid typo, really. < 1378687056 137727 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured as much but it happened several times < 1378687060 79620 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just now I read this: < 1378687103 893942 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378687146 15388 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay wait a minute my copy pasting has magically replaced spaces with newlines < 1378687161 807998 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i commend you for catching it before you actually pasted. < 1378687226 441229 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factoring is hard. Despite centuries of effort by some of the world's smartest mathematicians and computer scientists, the fastest methods for factoring a number N take time exponential in the number of bits of N. < 1378687235 444193 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378687242 34352 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the important part is "exponential in the number of bits" < 1378687267 852262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1378687277 849435 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing something or is he saying it's exponential in a logarithm, which is called being linear in my town? < 1378687323 794573 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh or is that because the logarithm is not the same base as the exponential < 1378687337 603477 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's bad to say "exponential in the number of bits" even if that does mean linear < 1378687337 749023 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exponential with respect to the size of the input, which is measured in bits, I think < 1378687342 653794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "100 digit input" vs "200 digit input" < 1378687348 26816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing something: the number of bits of the input is the standard x which you measure complexity as a function of. < 1378687348 556440 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 200 digit input is twice the size, not 10^100 the size < 1378687364 22428 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: different bases would only cause a constant multiplicative factor, which is nothing anybody cares about in complexity :p < 1378687381 587317 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah hum < 1378687387 169930 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first thing was only a typo? < 1378687393 268724 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which first thing < 1378687397 946518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which fir.. < 1378687403 144192 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome oerjan < 1378687410 401006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome oerjan < 1378687412 597155 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1378687416 157339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shachaf < 1378687417 778325 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shachaf. Thachaf. < 1378687427 899204 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: for instance they were calculating the complexity in function of the number of digits of a number n < 1378687428 118452 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[02:37] Koen_: and sometimes ended with a conclusion "therefore this algorithm is O(n^3)" < 1378687431 72573 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that first thing < 1378687456 627636 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with that? < 1378687463 494542 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :schoolboy multiplication is n³ i think < 1378687471 44129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the typo is using the same variable n for both the number and what you're measuring complexity as a function of (which should be the _size_ of the number, not the number.) < 1378687479 331952 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378687483 835734 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378687485 477365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's wrong because it not the same n in the two lines < 1378687488 940608 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that'd be some kind of typo < 1378687490 811708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1378687495 90122 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so everything is working right in the world and I was just imagining things < 1378687501 274320 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1378687504 700960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1378687504 853721 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378687505 252792 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1378687505 443292 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |\ c.c  >\ /'\|   |     |\ c.c  >\    |    /^\|/|  c.c  >\ < 1378687505 807463 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  /´¯|_)              /´\ < 1378687506 291657 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                (_|                 (_| |_) < 1378687581 841333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when does celebrate contain c.c < 1378687582 159858 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                  c.c.c < 1378687582 304974 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   c.c < 1378687602 293482 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't deny the seraphim their celebration! < 1378687657 732337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . unwords . replicate 20 $ " c.c " < 1378687657 990829 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    c.c.c < 1378687658 168082 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                     c.c < 1378687658 349821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i updated it to include new myndzi features < 1378687658 615560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c c.... < 1378687664 642364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . unwords . replicate 5 $ " c.c " < 1378687664 928954 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                   c.c.c < 1378687665 91907 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    c.c < 1378687665 551116 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c c.c c.c c.c c.c < 1378687665 806519 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69     c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c c.c.c < 1378687665 951705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      c.c   c.c   c.c   c.c   c.c < 1378687683 80288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687694 222727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687697 913324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ.ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687698 781272 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : ꙮ.ꙮ < 1378687705 346674 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless bot < 1378687708 206051 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to do everything myself < 1378687717 870283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i invent computers for anyway < 1378687745 367135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't, do you think you're al gore or something? < 1378687772 997934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pota < 1378687774 993600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378687779 341926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking. < 1378687788 22825 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i'm the giant on whose shoulders al gore stoode < 1378687790 147510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/.$// < 1378687796 887315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potato < 1378687799 677857 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :potato? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378687799 971368 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             | < 1378687800 116379 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           º¯`\o < 1378687812 768559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? potatoe < 1378687814 626774 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoe? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378687823 896090 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378687824 41066 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            o/`¯º < 1378687870 422400 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi is so popular today < 1378687929 561070 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, do you like the underscore? it's the new style < 1378687932 950136 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : c.c < 1378687933 276266 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 c.c.c < 1378687933 435375 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  c.c < 1378687940 347701 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not grace_notes < 1378687941 162454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :c·c·c < 1378687946 766329 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : c°c < 1378687948 384853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1378687952 464422 :Gracenotes_!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Changing host < 1378687952 609622 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1378687968 559581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plz fix the weather thx < 1378687975 878321 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :got identified, back < 1378687983 743573 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the weather's fine < 1378687986 500239 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope I didn't miss anything < 1378687987 523371 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: why not grace_notes < 1378688006 880820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google palo alto weather < 1378688007 378991 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Result Found. < 1378688011 760623 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is probably registering it as we speak < 1378688016 483682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :29° right now :'( < 1378688016 659351 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no weather found < 1378688020 575675 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an arms race < 1378688028 428112 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's going to be a high of 90F pretty much all week < 1378688036 150754 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 90f in c < 1378688037 306762 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :32.2222222 degrees Celsius < 1378688037 452118 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.myscienceproject.org/beer.html < 1378688037 452299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: How to Keep Beer Cold < 1378688039 344109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 90f in real degrees < 1378688040 431448 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use regional measurements < 1378688040 743875 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070712040823AABeQ2f < 1378688040 889294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: What is 90 degrees fahrenheit in celcius? - Yahoo! Answers < 1378688057 950512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ol' buddy Yahoo! Answers knows what's up < 1378688085 830100 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sanetemp 90 < 1378688086 959589 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like 25? < 1378688087 264885 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sanetemp: not found < 1378688093 741249 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sanetemp 90 < 1378688096 231612 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32.2 < 1378688100 274947 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow go me. < 1378688104 898550 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be google that knows what's up < 1378688145 208320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure i'm not allowed to talk about that in public, Gracenotes_ < 1378688212 165696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo http://www.theonion.com/articles/ford-develops-new-suv-that-runs-purely-on-gasoline,33568/ < 1378688227 381056 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 30C in real degrees < 1378688229 15334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://calculator-converter.com/converter_c_to_f_celsius_to_fahrenheit_calculator.php < 1378688229 160713 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: C to F Convert Celsius to Fahrenheit and Fahrenheit to Celsius degrees Conver... < 1378688250 276621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`units < 1378688256 7932 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gasoline? doesn't even need oxygen? < 1378688275 404238 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. extraordinary < 1378688278 323923 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing in that way < 1378688281 436217 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2527 units, 72 prefixes, 56 nonlinear units \ \ You have: < 1378688337 631549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run units '90 degF' degC < 1378688339 2729 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ * 50 \ / 0.02 < 1378688346 831934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378688417 341832 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google 300 kelvin in real degrees < 1378688418 314573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rapidtables.com/convert/temperature/kelvin-to-fahrenheit.htm < 1378688418 459914 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Kelvin to Fahrenheit (�F) degrees converter < 1378688432 817600 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just skip to reamur < 1378688435 139859 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well, enough of this < 1378688748 933757 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty bad today, though < 1378688761 557111 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :my chocolate that was just sitting on my desk, not in the sun, melted < 1378688780 809574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly chocolate < 1378688783 954740 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hands got very chocolatey as I was figuring it out < 1378688784 242533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the desk isn't for sitting < 1378688785 966787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :try the chair < 1378688786 262819 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :ate them anyway < 1378688893 250307 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a fan < 1378688933 473331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't we all fans of Gracenotes_ < 1378688976 28959 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378689050 263606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the fundamental way you talk to the GPIO pins on the Raspberry Pi is that you mmap() /dev/mem and just start poking shit < 1378689065 675885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as continuing the educational legacy of 80s microcomputers, I approve < 1378689171 85370 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a while, you could tell iOS to map arbitrary regions of memory to a device < 1378689176 173446 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how we did a lot of sneaky stuff < 1378689187 271238 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/fucktheworld < 1378689195 909028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378689227 704935 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually how we circumvented their hardware encryption, which stumped us for months < 1378689270 110337 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway, it wasn't the standard endorsed way to do things in iOS, just a feature apple forgot to remove in their kernel builds for a while, until they realized what we were doing with it < 1378689311 230808 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, this is more-or-less what PCI and PCIe is, yeah < 1378689321 201007 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :peeking and poking < 1378689329 741645 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pokes Gracenotes_
< 1378689338 766989 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378689349 732840 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION giggles
< 1378689366 676731 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: say, are you going to ICFP, by any chance? < 1378689367 702430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: why don't you come poke him face to face!! < 1378689373 185970 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378689375 174486 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: yup < 1378689384 278077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't. :-(
< 1378689387 510385 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo. I plan on attending the Haskell bits. < 1378689389 192563 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to register still < 1378689401 140032 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: :( < 1378689411 795551 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes_: how about the main event? that's what I'll be at < 1378689413 296669 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Maybe next year! < 1378689422 54371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe not. < 1378689426 130944 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't it be somewhere exotic next year? < 1378689428 661873 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd better come visit to be on the safe side. < 1378689430 540479 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost never in the US! < 1378689434 361967 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm, that's true. < 1378689443 434743 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: I might sneak in the first day for the main event < 1378689443 747694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outside the US is a lot more trouble. < 1378689501 366358 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378689509 13167 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1378689533 344142 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first day is dependent types, both keynote and session, as well as things like data parallelism and fun/pearls. < 1378689540 996617 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I have a flight in the evening < 1378689551 378266 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, there are 3 days of Haskell things < 1378689601 998730 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then I will be missing SPJ's talk about the work he's done with Computing at School, but hopefully that will be recorded < 1378689627 542401 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, this underscore is too heavy < 1378689630 926471 :Gracenotes_!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes NICK :Gracenotes < 1378689642 185885 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378690039 209293 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is < 1378690365 845073 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378691290 184203 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378691701 547352 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378691845 904027 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: around? < 1378691864 753093 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1378691919 269397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up? < 1378691996 130783 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378692144 561026 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692155 124675 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant? < 1378692214 863116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: /whois is thataway < 1378692220 289220 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378692220 675765 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692227 894300 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378692279 326887 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I missing here? < 1378692319 401765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the account < 1378692345 638052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as the cloak. < 1378692428 264611 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So constant is variable is a FreeBSD person. Why does that warrant pinging me? < 1378692475 38855 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also may be using, or pretending to be using, root < 1378692492 471986 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see how I got caught up in this < 1378692520 606392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know about that, but e _is_ a regular. < 1378692551 693168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Sgeo is asking why you mentioned /whois. < 1378692576 570362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to accidently imply that e isn't a regular, I just want to know why e pinged me < 1378692582 83548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i interpreted "constant?" as Sgeo not knowing who e was. < 1378692591 620641 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine: shachaf: around? Hi What's up? [...] oerjan? < 1378692617 946368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIMAGINABLE < 1378692678 743953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i note constant hasn't spoken since the line, maybe e's lost connection somewhere. < 1378692739 797808 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm back < 1378692741 889659 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: do you know Ada ? < 1378692762 490110 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378692771 915928 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know one thing about Ada, which I mentioned last time Ada was mentioned: a and b or c is invalid, you need parentheses < 1378692791 261987 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ah, okay < 1378692815 500202 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else know Ada? < 1378692827 162047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be an Ada IRC channel < 1378692832 871623 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There is. < 1378692834 471950 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You were there. < 1378692891 300353 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't expecting that < 1378692893 305840 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1378692905 510666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1378693310 659883 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378693370 462512 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378693821 476689 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378693955 170757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what's that thing you do when you delete spam that makes it not show up in recent changes any longer :( < 1378693969 805954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently clicking rollback wasn't it. < 1378694076 337404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that elliott doesn't look online < 1378694079 716257 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378694087 89009 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hide anonymous useres" < 1378694111 101170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i'm talking about hiding it from _others_ unless they show bots. < 1378694116 945242 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott's asleep fyi < 1378694121 282878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1378694198 285252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1378694239 127356 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: to change user statuses, there is Special:UserRights < 1378694318 533606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are your opinions of Ellsberg paradox? < 1378694330 581426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i do not think we are talking about the same feature. < 1378694381 437564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 used to do this thing whenever there was major spamming going on. < 1378694501 895569 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you can try marking that user as a bot, if that is what you wanted < 1378694502 758199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: i don't have access to Special:UserRights anyway, and i'm pretty sure ais523 doesn't have more rights than me. < 1378694509 85805 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1378694525 754698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe that's what he did. < 1378694553 648667 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does have extra rights: check users (accept IP info), bureaucrat < 1378694597 335274 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the default configuration, bureaucrats are able to change rights such as admin status. In other configs, admins can change statuses like the ability to rollback. < 1378694598 463121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he have it back then? < 1378694626 449135 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378694715 60779 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :started February 18, 2012. < 1378694745 5536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own conclusion (hopefully I did it correctly) is that if no probability can be assigned to the number of black and yellow balls (and that it isn't any kind of deception or any other psychological factors of the people who put the balls in there), then either AD or BC should be selected. < 1378694760 652123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he got it when elliott took over the wiki, but what i'm talking about he did before that, when spam was getting out of hand < 1378694830 439276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have made a mistake though. < 1378694841 993024 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: AD makes sense to me. < 1378694924 255091 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's deleted over 4000 spam pages < 1378694946 163614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deletion is not what i'm talking about here < 1378694989 932851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about reverting spam edits to an already existing page, without it showing up in the default recent changes. < 1378694990 452566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: What is your reasoning? < 1378695036 155257 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are the ones with definite probabilities < 1378695052 492704 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I'd be thinking about it adversarially < 1378695071 537316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that isn't a full reasoning. < 1378695138 582518 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Between A and B, A has probability 33%, B as 0-66%. rounding a bit. < 1378695147 710202 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :C has 33-100%. D has 66%. < 1378695301 345762 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :My strategy is maximizing the minimum. There's just not enough information to make an optimality argument. < 1378695352 284604 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378695406 370065 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most real world situations involving missing information, there are no numbers, either for the probabilities or the amount of uncertainty. < 1378695434 371895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also maximizing the minimum. < 1378695575 922230 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that is my view. What complications are introduced by that? < 1378695973 838917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am maximizing the minimum expected gain according to probabilities. < 1378696014 490185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing you have failed to consider is that you should consider both gambles together using whatever same amount of black and yellow balls there are; the amount is the same for both gambles. < 1378696149 33702 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, both gambles occur together? I see. < 1378696151 430024 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378696210 509663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did make these assumptions, that the number of the balls is the same each time, and that the ball picked is replaced before picking again, as well as that you must select both gambles before the first ball is picked. < 1378696245 118518 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, so 0%-66% scales with 100%-33% respectively. < 1378696297 450181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have not yet considered is if you want to instead maximize the probability of winning at least $100. < 1378696320 609569 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the amount is the same for both gambles" is a pretty big assumption < 1378696340 208081 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not big as in unreasonable, but more important, I expect < 1378696361 570681 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the analysis < 1378696700 592566 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wikipedia article also makes that assumption (although I make these assumptions even regardless of Wikipedia). < 1378696863 620705 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would probably plot the probabilities of winning $0, $100, and $200 for all four combinations as blacks vary from 0 to 60 < 1378696925 34320 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were less lazy. < 1378696933 680368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I would do the same < 1378696943 400710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I were less lazy) < 1378697012 462665 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :then make my decision based on either assuming a uniform distribution or an adversarial distribution (I would probably go for the latter) < 1378697072 778550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is an "adversarial distribution"? < 1378697914 903182 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of black balls an adversary would put when they know your strategy and are trying to minimize your gains. < 1378697992 746570 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :distribution refers to the distribution of black/yellow balls < 1378698123 225223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK. < 1378698144 704294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes it is also what I was considering, but not because there actually is such an adversary; it is because such thing is unknown. < 1378698150 516792 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do fun things like have a strategy like 'flip a fair coin to decide between AD and BC', in which case your adversary's calculation would get more complicated, but still possible. < 1378698175 365297 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :In crypto, people have fun strategies like 'flip 256 random coins' < 1378698189 848906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, things like that too, I suppose, can be. < 1378698254 876828 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I'm off to get dinner. sadly, I might buy it from walgreens, but it'll be okay. < 1378698557 401197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will it be < 1378698718 843050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In one book I read about Newcomb's paradox, my own strategy as soon as I read it was toss a coin. However, later in a book by Gardner, they said it is empty if you select at random. < 1378699727 290288 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so, how about now? one-box or two-box? < 1378699913 505255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It depends. "The Predictor can be presented as a psychic, as a superintelligent alien, as a deity, as a brain-scanning computer, etc." So it depends on these things and on other details not specified here. < 1378699922 243085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as about how much money I need. < 1378699946 344724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on things that happen between the prediction and my actual selection. < 1378699952 299495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are too many factors to consider. < 1378700049 948058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: assume that you want to maximize your profit and that the predictor has shown 99% accuracy in all demonstrations to date < 1378700141 186428 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, but still, what kind of predictor? Still, I wouldn't really know until I actually got the chance to pick, although I can try to guess. < 1378700382 891967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also want to know why I am being given these choices (even if they lie to me when telling the reason, it doesn't matter) < 1378700396 220469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: guess what you would pick if all you knew was what i just told you. you don't know if the predictor is psychic or just very well-informed, but you do know he is right 99% so far. < 1378700434 949559 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378700440 893808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are being given these choices as an alternative to humanity being destroyed < 1378700448 594467 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't pick, we all must die < 1378700462 68584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, I don't care. < 1378700490 207210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1378700539 165867 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378700565 700937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it difficult to answer, but I don't care, and probably won't pick any (although other people can pick one if they want to) < 1378700592 152264 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1378700780 873305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humanity is only a very minor part of the universe, and I am even a more minor thing in the universe. < 1378700897 352281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378700902 525885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it isn't necessarily a bad thing (although not being destroyed is also not necessarily a bad thing) < 1378700935 250749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So in other words, there still isn't enough information!!! < 1378701123 390500 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378701221 668226 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378701396 96748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of some other paradoxes (whether or not they are mentioned in Wikipedia)? < 1378701593 865347 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :newcomb isn't really a paradox, just a problem < 1378701606 906351 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's bell's paradox < 1378701609 795348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1378701794 509610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprachlogik.blogspot.com/2011/02/liar-paradox-of-material-implication.html < 1378701840 720874 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378701955 502167 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=1371 the engineer paradox, not mentioned in wikipedia to my knowledge < 1378702021 704211 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378702033 299130 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378702048 652289 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378702065 207177 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2148 also "the paradox of the court" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_the_Court < 1378702071 566399 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :going back, I do see that the interesting bit about the Ellsberg paradox is that some ways of knowing what you don't know help you more than others. < 1378702157 609828 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting bit < 1378702236 378626 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you know the curry paradox? < 1378702287 966589 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it's both sweet and savory? < 1378702432 263636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I can see now, I saw it before but forgot < 1378702481 276287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if this sentence is true, then you'll forget again. < 1378702515 27194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that it doesn't work due to nontermination, I think < 1378702933 459089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fuckyeahx11.tumblr.com/ < 1378702994 359070 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1378703015 331215 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many levels of irony are involved here help < 1378703112 155128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ε₀ < 1378703123 720909 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblr wants me to "Never miss a post!" < 1378703130 907495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i bad for answering a "how many" question with an ordinal < 1378703147 329918 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ur good < 1378703169 5589 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's epsilon zero again? the fixed point of x -> \omega ^ x? < 1378703231 434729 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow i actually got that mostly right. < 1378703354 51417 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((sqrt 2) ^) < 1378703355 134382 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1378703355 279666 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M777596952.sho... < 1378703380 590340 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it saying it can't show undefined < 1378703438 491658 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it intentional that the background, like, flashes when you scroll? < 1378703477 741651 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...lol, it does. < 1378703481 703504 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough xeyes tbh < 1378703541 103185 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, especially not here. http://fuckyeahx11.tumblr.com/image/2385309201 < 1378703593 542024 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the superior computer program. < 1378703655 586348 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378703798 740885 :tertu3!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378703942 347952 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t sqrt < 1378703943 76056 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a < 1378703946 269139 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378703947 994406 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^) < 1378703948 708603 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral b, Num a) => a -> b -> a < 1378703980 191314 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't be bothered to remember all of haskell's numeric crap < 1378703983 312335 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you know, you can't be Floating and Integral at the same time. it's totally impossible < 1378703983 996686 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (**) < 1378703984 683345 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floating a => a -> a -> a < 1378703987 767059 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^^) < 1378703988 527599 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fractional a, Integral b) => a -> b -> a < 1378703999 598186 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it won't work anyway obviously. < 1378704002 864595 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704005 31343 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ((sqrt 2) **) < 1378704012 194470 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378704014 671746 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though 2 is a better answer!! it's terrible < 1378704030 507640 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it finds the least fixpoint of definedness. < 1378704042 842524 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :thar you go. job done. raises for all. < 1378704071 763657 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704075 786296 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, yeah. < 1378704100 58401 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want the fun answer, man. :( < 1378704147 618988 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378704317 790299 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :risky business being around engineers tho < 1378704326 670192 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1378704370 267932 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :no levity is safe < 1378704428 640797 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1378704455 576231 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378704626 583581 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378704683 83371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When people are trying to solve my Pokemon card puzzles I find that often people try many solutions that don't work (often believing they do work; sometimes the mistake is due to ignoring some important information). < 1378704705 418129 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :available online? < 1378704731 383130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes they are available online < 1378704757 460156 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you be able to link them? < 1378704797 709850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/puzzle.* Replace the * with a number 1 to 5 (more might be added later) < 1378704813 994114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a glossary, see the file "terminology.txt" in the same directory. < 1378704839 969964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are all plain text; no HTML or Unicode is used) < 1378704951 1725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1378705261 491939 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been a while since I've played, this or another CCG, so I don't have enough intuition for it, but I do like the idea of it. Do people make these for e.g. Magic? (I mean, that's Turing complete via tokens.) < 1378705278 2764 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see how some of the listed mechanics can interact. < 1378705306 431236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes people do make them for Magic much more, or at least they used to; I don't know how common it is more recently. < 1378705325 112690 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and 'white to checkmate' or 'black to live' is of course the older variant) < 1378705464 301704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Older variant of what? Chess? < 1378705503 780851 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chess, Go, etc. < 1378705557 996790 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :Puzzles using game mechanics. (One video game I like, DROD, is pretty much exclusively composed of this.) < 1378705832 439156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also tsume shogi and other puzzles involving game mechanics I suppose too < 1378706010 6834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there can be puzzle games somewhat based on other games < 1378706040 150786 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Do you know anything about the rules of Pokemon card? If you have some questions, I can answer them. < 1378706048 883124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The glossary doesn't contain the rules for the game.) < 1378706176 428496 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when I was 10 -.- < 1378706212 550212 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least partly, as every time I look at them they are deeper than I remember. probably more 'collectible' than 'card game', at the time. < 1378706313 430118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you be specific? < 1378706496 281936 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have any specific recollections, nor questions. I might not try my hand at solving your puzzles, but I quite like the format of them, which I had no clue about previously. < 1378706552 708917 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378706611 36852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like these format too; is there anything specific you like about these formats, though, and other comments of it? < 1378706611 222328 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solutions are actually provided if you change "puzzle" to "solution", although best is to try to figure it out by yourself < 1378706611 868246 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you don't want to try to solve them and just want an example of a solution you could look at one of them to see how the game works kind of < 1378706757 868182 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378706764 442875 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378706857 84401 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, looking at the solution of one of them, it seems as though it does require a bit of domain-specific knowledge. < 1378706885 670806 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378706910 473153 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see all of the nice constraints falling into the place, where it magically happens that there's only one solution < 1378706938 290997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which solution are you viewing? < 1378706981 845558 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, just of #1 < 1378707145 551625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, some of the steps may be commutative, in this and other solutions. < 1378707174 735474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, step 1 and 2 can be swapped. < 1378707190 351729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than these kind of things, I believe the solutions to be unique. < 1378707381 110886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, except in the first two puzzles, the opponent gets a turn too. < 1378707460 505443 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378707482 905152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fifth puzzle is even more complicated than the others. < 1378707619 572216 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :when people find bad solutions, is it because they misunderstand mechanics, or don't think of all ways opponent could counter, or stuff like that? < 1378707635 105618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are sure you won't try it later, view that puzzle too and view that solution too (although perhaps first read the card data mentioned) < 1378707657 326824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Sometimes those are the reasons. Other times it is because they fail to read the entire file. < 1378707730 180382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think the glossary is good though, even only considering what you know about it? (Some of these things come from chess) < 1378707761 708892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have any puzzles for Pokemon card or Magic: the Gathering or some other game, I would still like to see it please! < 1378708093 748503 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378708118 729687 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :glossary is a pleasant game, largely because of metagame exposition :) < 1378708168 930159 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/game/read/, dunno where that came from. also, almost wrote game from. < 1378708267 701925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any opinions on individual entries, suggestions for improvement, or new entries which could be added? < 1378708480 613084 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378708484 584001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378708506 932081 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, not that I can think of. also, I do like the ASCII approximation of water symbol < 1378708518 904852 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and others too < 1378709401 598909 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378709632 284200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people like them; some other people do not like them. I do like these symbols, which is why I used them. < 1378711724 680982 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378712956 433140 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I see use of comments in an example computer program code which are placeholder for the other things that belong in its place. I think a better way would be use a chunk inclusion syntax of WEB, so that you can know it is not a comment. < 1378712992 266555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Furthermore, using the chunk inclusion syntax, it will actually compile and work properly, too.) < 1378713042 600760 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378713671 598220 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378714203 659797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378714426 584806 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378714982 745871 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378716840 56071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378717709 289063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1378719832 812735 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378721631 330331 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378721649 889723 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378721758 210110 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378722367 305938 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378722560 346610 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378723007 870395 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378723350 221821 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378725797 93692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378726198 684866 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378727456 713089 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378727659 419167 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378727754 268199 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378727779 413719 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728713 498146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728756 655649 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378728987 145858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good vegetarian morning! < 1378729061 499801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ah, first time I've heard of that. I'd say go for unstable, fsdvo unstable. < 1378729214 664469 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378729516 670665 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378729729 270058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378730022 525531 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily! < 1378730053 664360 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378730142 559106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthello! < 1378730190 166168 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not vegetarian morning you know < 1378730193 244805 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :turkey bacon < 1378730214 150622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't vegetarian morning indeed, but yesterday night was. < 1378730229 751810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I guess nutella toasts are vegetarian, no? at least the OJ was.) < 1378730524 255921 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731540 794409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378731542 759569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378731556 11071 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731576 495520 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like cookies < 1378731616 141599 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not my favourite type of biscuit but they're fine < 1378731642 405137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://www.commercialbakeries.com/images/CookieOptions/CommericalCookiesProductsThumbBig.jpg < 1378731672 840718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes those < 1378731684 231134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this subway didn't give me a receipt < 1378731690 310943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can't take the survey < 1378731697 321996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get a free cookie < 1378731731 317343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis a sad world where cookies aren't free to be freed. < 1378731784 586486 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never actually seen leaf shaped cookies before < 1378731789 350726 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1378731791 452818 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-148.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378731797 208737 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seem like they'd be hard to make at home < 1378731803 464418 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378731910 38158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think you can get cookie cutters for that, but you can get them in any respectable Canadian grocery. < 1378731924 584975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I shouldn't, but it's very tempting... < 1378731928 258158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Frooxius < 1378731932 374652 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Froox10ius: Welcome to the international10 hub fo07r e07soteri04c pro05gramming la08nguage design and dep14l13oy05ment! Fo02r more04 inform06a12tion, check05 out13 our 12wiki: ht06tp://esolangs.org/wiki/04Ma08in_Page09. (03Fo14r the13 other kind o04f esoterica, try #eso12te11ri12c on08 irc03.dal.net.) < 1378731949 848715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're at the wrong end of canadia < 1378732066 804089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah. humbug. it may be the wrong end, but it's a pretty wrong end. < 1378732147 662538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this area is pretty < 1378732260 746394 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732311 250056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: are you still in Newton? < 1378732445 346755 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732470 860426 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378732573 409596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellorick. hellomp. helloqy. < 1378732733 637795 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1378734035 794092 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: would you like a box of «biscuits feuille d'érable»? < 1378734457 700215 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378734564 49326 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378734593 615570 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378734640 4230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ter2 < 1378734641 920918 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0403t05er2: Welcome to 12the international hub 07f04or esoter14ic progra04mmi14ng 05language design an14d deploym03ent! For more inform02ation, ch07eck ou06t our 11wiki: 09htt08p://13es10ola14ng04s.o11rg/wiki/Main_P05age.11 07(For the o08ther kind o14f esot13erica, try #esoteric on irc03.da09l11.net.) < 1378735528 116989 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am nowhere near newton < 1378735541 469009 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i will gladly eat cookies < 1378735617 761771 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: where is the approximate nowhere where you are at? I'll need that relevant info to send you the cookies. < 1378735800 31317 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you going to post them to me? < 1378736122 783493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'd prefer to send them by submarine, but alas it is not practical in this reality-set. therefore, I'll have to do with Postes Canada and USPS. < 1378736190 432593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :send them to David Rutter, Gen. Delivery, Gorham, NH 03581. if they arrive in a week or less, i will get them. < 1378736256 513871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to be the travelling guy... oh well. let's do hope the postal services will be fast enough. < 1378736526 408914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like our bilingual site... «Veuillez vérifier kind of biscuits») < 1378738279 422105 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378738519 253752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nisstyrello. < 1378738600 353658 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378739100 536808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, you can't just announce your address on the internet like that!! < 1378739401 189652 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378739603 574818 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378739724 955833 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378740623 165198 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378741257 372453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so what, he just gave me the post office's address. he appröximates like a gentleman. < 1378741348 455764 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are making me hate the diaeresis < 1378741357 768765 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love the diaeresis < 1378741372 594464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :̈) < 1378741383 457284 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you boily < 1378741456 249182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lö̤ve you too. < 1378741479 181853 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :diæ̈resis < 1378741780 918087 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three seconds away from banning the diaeresis here!! < 1378741949 183751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378741975 584247 :ter2!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378742806 511589 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378742833 562813 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378743076 583550 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378743568 432139 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378744804 880805 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378744986 678982 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745089 910902 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378745488 863524 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378745647 187981 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378745674 687625 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745901 540511 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378745976 410169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378746331 664013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the diæresis is still alive. in heaven, everything is fine. you got your good thing, and I've got mine. < 1378746469 187214 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still at lunch < 1378746471 395865 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a gyro < 1378746479 426968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i want another thing < 1378746486 697100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378746537 601767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only proper time to eat gyros, kebabs, shishes and other shawarmas is when the sun is down. < 1378746890 45225 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make the sun go down sorry < 1378746898 778785 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to eat now < 1378747416 674096 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you eat a gyro < 1378747425 766977 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, don't tell me < 1378747439 3623 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mental image i have is more interesting and delicious than whatever you actually ate < 1378747464 748819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm telling you < 1378747470 962906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put it in your mouth < 1378747475 5736 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite < 1378747477 33828 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :chew < 1378747477 433312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nobody really styles their element with { display: inline }, for the most part" < 1378747479 384790 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and swallow < 1378747482 551355 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a mental image of Phantom_Hoover having a mental image of quintopia imagining eating a gyro.
< 1378747499 78648 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what < 1378747505 174027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: “for the most part”??? < 1378747573 966547 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it nonsense to set display: inline for the html element? < 1378747648 99738 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... considering the state of everything web-based, it is only slightly nonsenser to inline . < 1378747804 165518 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378747841 418183 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"More Research Urgently Needed on Caffeine," says Journal of Caffeine Research» http://view.liebertpubmail.com/?j=fe631771746400747011&m=ff281776736c&ls=fdc615737c6004787d17787564&l=fe61157870640678741c&s=fe1f1079726c037e751c72&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe2317777464027b7c1375&r=0 < 1378747865 906547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1378747913 284069 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :journal of trippin' research < 1378748186 765534 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748208 687813 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1378748218 799367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«my glassware, let me show you it» < 1378748224 859672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378748244 378286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately if you consume enough caffeine it stops doing anything at all < 1378748244 523483 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a drug reference? < 1378748264 525591 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeeine is a drug, yes < 1378748267 589414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it starts curing headaches, depending on how you look at it < 1378748370 863532 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "if you consume enough caffeine it stops doing anything at all" // my life < 1378748408 137431 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get off my lawn you punk druggies < 1378748428 898383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ain't no punk. < 1378748464 663578 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748468 890514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1103) "gosh I'm so excited for more caffeine research!!!!!" said the caffeine researcher, jittering as he frantically tried to come up with the words to describe the energetic feelings coursing through his body < 1378748494 910675 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a lyttle lytton entry < 1378748506 585869 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything's always lyttle lytton with you < 1378748510 735892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like more work for me :p < 1378748511 997745 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more to life than lytton!! < 1378748515 979899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a great rant about hippies in one of the mushroom books in my living room < 1378748523 637381 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything should be all lyttle lytton all the time < 1378748549 660800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the author is tired of hippies asking him stupid questions about mushrooms and so devotes a page or so to attacking their whole attitude and worldview < 1378748576 428419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it ends with basically "if you want to trip that's fine, just don't ask me dumb questions" < 1378748610 527297 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which of these shrooms are like the ones the olmecs used to talk to Gilgamesh < 1378748630 265724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck olmec < 1378748630 410874 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Olmec were the first major civilization in Mexico. < 1378748635 399088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gilgamesh < 1378748635 561420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mythology The semidivine king of Erech, a city of southern Babylonia, and hero of an epic collection of mythic tales, one of which tells of a flood that covered the earth. < 1378748639 66263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck mushroom < 1378748639 321957 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushroom definition: an enlarged complex aboveground fleshy fruiting body of a fungus (as a basidiomycete) that consists typically of a stem bearing a pileus; '''especially'''. < 1378748651 850314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bike < 1378748651 995293 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike definition: '''chiefly Scottish''' a nest of wild bees, wasps, or hornets. < 1378748665 709818 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378748669 34922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1378748705 497427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely fail to see the link made by a chiefly Scottish bike between ancient mexicans, ancient mesopotamians, and modern fungi. < 1378748718 997624 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0kay < 1378748721 278398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in practice "mushroom" is used to describe fruiting bodies of some ascomycetes as well < 1378748736 586290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern fungot < 1378748736 820873 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: of course, i know < 1378748751 815386 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is scared. very, very scared.
< 1378748884 354038 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of fungot? < 1378748884 716247 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: process 2 killed. it's a mammal ( fnord) be top level? < 1378748925 340846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a mammal? < 1378748925 835288 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but it doesn't answer my question dammit. you're right. i'm getting strange. mit scheme is < 1378748934 982227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mit scheme is a mammal. < 1378748942 109665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not surprising < 1378748976 417200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dons his +3 hazmat-mail of sentient bot warding
< 1378748980 349648 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378748995 537874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(every piece of armour is *-mail. chain mail. scale mail. plate mail...) < 1378749103 684371 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, do we have any D-class personel on hand in this channel? < 1378749136 467893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :we used to have fungot? < 1378749136 838115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: and some discordians say it's a clone of an operator < 1378749212 132796 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so fungot is a former D-class that got [REDACTED] into an IRC bot? < 1378749212 359375 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so " my client..." is < 1378749272 162167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, attorney at law < 1378749272 522492 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 1. it's not the size, it's the pty itself that eats it < 1378749274 689108 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: [REDACTED] < 1378749320 644444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: gross. < 1378749608 506493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck laukaa < 1378749608 652082 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laukaa is a municipality of Finland. < 1378749615 276151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense. < 1378749642 549944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My aunt and her family have a place in Laukaa. < 1378749661 436920 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the quotes... < 1378749663 919536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote laukaa < 1378749665 284413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :823) fungot: what's your view on angels and other otherworldly beings? olsner: well i'm mentioning theoretical image to be dumped in rain forests of laukaa. < 1378749696 799951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: huh. One of the local TV channels is showing a program about baking at 04:15am-04:40am. I wonder if that has something to do with 420. < 1378749783 910417 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know a way to make my right shift key only work for things on the left-hand side of the keyboard? < 1378749792 219786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you like to explain where that quote came from? < 1378749792 574269 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i want to eat today :) prop. the best fnord < 1378749847 670286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll feed you if you're helpful. < 1378749847 993512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: create a new kind of shift, xmodmap and/or create a new layout that uses that shift. < 1378749848 138816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's the entire point of forking and returning twice, or using cfunge_realerr. < 1378749921 227335 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: afraid of that < 1378749925 722303 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378749926 670581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc lshift and rshift are already separate modifiers but every key just maps to the same character with both left and right shift < 1378749931 583632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grep suggests it was extracted from " somewhere in the forests of laukaa." from #douglasadams of IRCnet in 2003-03-29. < 1378749972 173952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That's not a true, at least in X. < 1378749972 674343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: iianm, lshift and rshift are separate keys, but they point to the same index in a key's definition. < 1378750002 474561 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how about the (linux) console keymaps? < 1378750021 257956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I don't recall enough about that. < 1378750072 981618 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I get X to filter all keyboard commands through a daemon before going to other applications? < 1378750109 30930 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(doing this with a kernel change would definitely be Not A Bad Idea I'm sure) < 1378750134 387028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ♪ding♪ you have quotes. < 1378750137 878361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice that shit < 1378750170 859616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice was originally called keysplice and used for that exact purpose < 1378750220 521957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a bit of evdev called "uinput" that you can use to make an input device from userland. < 1378750234 977336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could have X read that, and source it from a real evdev device. < 1378750235 320053 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378750259 655840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sounds like quite the fiddly thing.) < 1378750315 459885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd probably need a xorg.conf with some custom Keyboard blockery, because -- IIRC -- by default X would read all keyboard(s), so you'd get both your injected events and the originals. < 1378750339 151059 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote at least as on-topic < 1378750340 899479 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :841) FireFly: oh, did you see ion's police reindeer? that was ... at least as on-topic as this discussion < 1378750376 36072 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: thanks for that very helpful fact < 1378750382 230182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think that "..." is not a redaction, it's just a pause < 1378750468 484878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: woops. I'll change it. < 1378750592 855288 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I have this feeling that I should include alise's quotes somewhere... < 1378750668 782473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell alise where art thou nowst? < 1378750668 927953 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378750694 289276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the channel right now actually < 1378750764 110286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you are alise? < 1378750768 966004 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1378750779 146149 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you? < 1378750779 597667 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: why do i need something to be desired, so it's all right, we are outside of the function < 1378750790 349615 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How philosophical < 1378750802 887347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: alise is the former D-class??? < 1378750830 877803 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, fungot is < 1378750831 418639 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: more or less automagically result in what the reader uses, though it would need to install loggerhead is good to hack in < 1378750913 44589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me brains are not happy. me need many more coffee today. < 1378750953 682273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? copumpkin < 1378750955 424631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378750955 758457 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1378750955 903565 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1378750981 835032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and may nobody come to me saying copumpkin is someone else without telling me who the someone else is. < 1378751031 365853 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think copumpkin has always been copumpkin < 1378751049 752975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks. I feel reassured now. < 1378751072 120231 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have always been me < 1378751073 961800 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.9.255 QUIT : < 1378751090 864282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Except when it transformed into a cocarriage briefly, I think. < 1378751197 912857 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378751203 629631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, that I understand. the link is fairy evident. < 1378751250 421709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know: Google Chromebook Pixel's touchpad is: "analyzed and honed using a laser microscope for exceptional smoothness and accuracy". < 1378751258 554848 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh < 1378751279 651520 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honed... that's when you cover it in honey right? < 1378751289 498185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Covered in honey with lasers. < 1378751383 996995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honing... isn't that like when you attract missiles with honey? < 1378751702 603774 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378751704 422479 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378751762 173900 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora < 1378751765 261958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Fiora < 1378751767 29751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. Thiora. < 1378751809 309686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thiora: the sulfur-bridged version of Fiora. < 1378751836 515271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378751887 581161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttants: theobromine, thiobromine, bromine < 1378751894 884175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ttants = Things That Are Not the Same) < 1378751913 36825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's shachaf :( < 1378751914 60973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: thiotimoline. < 1378751925 642860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do my usual "shachaf: did you know X" thing < 1378751930 342566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems silly if he's not actually here < 1378751946 59489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1378751953 5593 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me just boot up my "shachaf simulation" < 1378751955 886653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1378751967 842780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but here goes anyway < 1378751979 383549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I managed to parse that in such a way that it's true < 1378751989 660814 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"function factorial of 0 is 1" < 1378752001 631279 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric : | n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1378752001 804360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't it great how "ascii" and "iso8859-1" and "latin1" are all aliases for Windows-1252 on the Web < 1378752008 837536 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: !!!!! < 1378752009 290205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's the joke < 1378752013 549299 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378752015 644758 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh < 1378752017 709348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SML syntax < 1378752018 876924 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh < 1378752024 240633 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb's mind is blown < 1378752032 125106 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh < 1378752035 94075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮꙮh < 1378752042 133583 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like shachaf parted because Fiora said I was asleep(?) < 1378752049 377545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1378752055 919904 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's the point of being in an elliottless channel < 1378752222 734423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what? are those... flowers??? < 1378752226 124963 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i can't see "Ed Balls" in news now without chuckling. thx < 1378752239 539613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: multioculi < 1378752240 664840 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe it's coincidental? < 1378752264 93320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multioculi < 1378752264 238550 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378752268 974441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multioculus < 1378752269 119644 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378752273 389942 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck multiocular o < 1378752273 535200 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Multiocular O is the most rare and exotic glyph variant of Cyrillic letter O. This glyph variant can be found in certain manuscripts in the phrase ��. < 1378752278 836145 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesssss < 1378752301 846607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can I eat your brains, so that I may gain understanding of the Duck? < 1378752312 989584 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1378752319 386529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :killjoy. < 1378752324 106156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha, this is my gift to you < 1378752325 665466 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eatjoy < 1378752345 395098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the phrase is «серафими многоꙮчитїи» < 1378752353 693795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"many-eyed seraphim" < 1378752353 867021 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ed Balls tells #c4news if Cameron puts military action back on table, Labour will consider this" "haha, balls" -- my head < 1378752379 945620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a job title, "shadow chancellor" sounds much cooler than it is < 1378752448 54147 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, he used to be Secretary for Education < 1378752470 403552 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as schools were concerned, the British government was balls. < 1378752570 251924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1378752574 713339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION subtly lurches over Bike with a pair of chopsticks and some light soy sauce
< 1378752581 175968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378752585 642510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke with ed balls isn't even "haha balls" although that can't hurt < 1378752595 561932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the amazing tweet he sent and the 2+ year running joke about it < 1378752632 115875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ed Balls."? < 1378752649 703544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fullstop even < 1378752655 33665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ed-balls < 1378752843 629399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if I were to include alise in the PDF, under which name shall I put him/her/them? < 1378753091 483047 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is elliott < 1378753184 62083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō. < 1378753192 270351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that. is. most. disturbing. < 1378753308 331598 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378753368 585340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not the word i'd use but okay < 1378753379 879257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's disturbing about it? < 1378753517 730827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is even more ancient and insane that I previously thought. < 1378753537 614596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ♪dőng♪ your quotes are ready. < 1378753555 233113 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ban diaereses plx < 1378753614 23066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a diæresis, it's a double acute! < 1378753626 834234 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you try your french tricks on me < 1378753640 856106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, it's a Hungarian trick. hth. :D < 1378753668 443163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of Hungarian, have any of you tried sine mora? < 1378753720 894220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378753805 198804 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungarian tricks? have you been sipping the szoup again? < 1378753821 468128 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, he's also ehird hth < 1378753957 962107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fungot. < 1378753958 432375 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but no frog games on any... emergent properties :) i'm writing a brainfuck to c " compiler" portion that runs on .net. < 1378753973 78414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I wish. < 1378754136 215096 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ghci just really pokey < 1378754358 572914 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took about a minute to calculate fib 40 < 1378754490 663343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slow but shouldn't be that slow < 1378754521 497487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on your fib though < 1378754543 500005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wrote fib n = fib (n-1) + fib (n-2) then you're doing O(2^n) work < 1378754552 993703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(more preciself O(fib(n)), the algorithm's output is its running time!) < 1378754668 397142 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378754693 705445 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378754705 416354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tertu < 1378754705 562052 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378754834 629354 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378754862 307017 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378754949 905364 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755206 298032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : zipWith (+) fibs (tail fibs) in fibs !! 40 < 1378755207 394796 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755210 961317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a biggish number. < 1378755218 681078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though not all *that* big.) < 1378755276 347406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix((0:).scanl(+)1)!!40 -- showing off < 1378755277 521831 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755539 208193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -e 'let fib 0 = 0; fib 1 = 1; fib n = fib (n-1) + fib (n-2) in fib 40' | time ghci => 173 seconds; echo '(define (fib n) (if (< n 2) n (+ (fib (- n 1)) (fib (- n 2))))) (fib 40)' | time csi => 47 seconds. < 1378755546 735342 :`^_^v!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755596 190134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = 0 : 1 : uncurry (zipWith (+)) ((id &&& tail) fibs) in fibs !! 40 < 1378755597 424039 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755607 252195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo ♪d奥ng♪ you have quotes! < 1378755607 397438 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378755648 376694 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a CJK pictograph in place of an 'i'? < 1378755659 53259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I thought it was in place of an 'o'. < 1378755662 675911 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no, in place of an o. < 1378755668 338341 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1378755669 352257 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378755693 590535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the more quotes I have to format, the opener the vowel. < 1378755707 202871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should have used an 'a' when Phantom_Hoovering...) < 1378755723 471247 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote FireFly < 1378755725 493753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :57) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies \ 841) FireFly: oh, did you see ion's police reindeer? that was ... at least as on-topic as this discussion < 1378755736 921020 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378755757 70345 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 102334155 -- now *that's* code golf < 1378755757 913547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: your quote is in the file, if you want to check it. < 1378755758 213765 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755759 485485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly is this pdf thing you're doing? < 1378755769 794534 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a file on me?! < 1378755780 721344 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: wow, impressive < 1378755793 654152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? oh, no. not at all. < 1378755800 386268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x6197ecb -- Aww, no golf. < 1378755801 408068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 102334155 < 1378755808 626718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides the evidence under the... darn. there is no rug here, only wooden floors.
< 1378755832 220345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 40 -- just in case the function exists... < 1378755833 283735 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `fib' < 1378755833 428896 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `fix' (imported from Data.Function) < 1378755875 562433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I'm reformatting the wisdom and quotes, for posterity. and because I am not insane. < 1378755884 285050 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord'x̢̳̙̏̈́ͧ̏͝' < 1378755885 306386 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:6: lexical error at character '\783' < 1378755890 79405 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1378755896 564806 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(huh lambdabot doesn't know about the 102334155th unicode char??) < 1378755899 218269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord '\783' < 1378755900 302330 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 783 < 1378755913 496225 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord maxBound < 1378755914 576941 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1114111 < 1378755924 341542 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378755926 353882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378755930 277050 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: That wasn’t a character. < 1378755930 422247 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 0 < 1378755933 573837 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (0,1) < 1378755935 14366 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. < 1378755936 543555 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp. < 1378755941 630227 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst $ iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378755942 511002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:151:1: Warning: < 1378755942 656208 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pattern match(es) are overlapped < 1378755942 656363 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an equat... < 1378755955 347361 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst (iterate aux (0,1) !! n) < 1378755956 90575 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:151:1: Warning: < 1378755956 235744 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pattern match(es) are overlapped < 1378755956 235911 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an equat... < 1378755956 513039 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: how was that joke supposed to work with a single *existing* unicode char though! < 1378755962 4015 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fst < 1378755962 999398 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a, b) -> a < 1378755971 785930 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am i missing here < 1378755975 565604 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 10 < 1378755978 789715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (55,89) < 1378756003 834680 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: what's the deal! < 1378756012 276197 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fib is already defined? < 1378756013 986393 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you defined fib three times < 1378756032 456930 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i wanted the one to override the other! < 1378756037 667075 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378756042 155887 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help let < 1378756042 325742 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :let = . Add a binding < 1378756049 643182 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help undefine < 1378756049 788699 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefine. Reset evaluator local bindings < 1378756050 286087 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlet fib < 1378756050 431253 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Parse failed: TemplateHaskell is not enabled < 1378756057 159208 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: help < 1378756064 964277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine let < 1378756065 109542 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's currently no way to undefine just one thing. Say @undefine (with no extra words) to undefine everything. < 1378756068 819139 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1378756068 968810 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1378756078 151227 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow great. < 1378756085 280715 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let a = 102334155 < 1378756085 998283 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fib n = let aux (f1,f2) = (f2,f1+f2) in fst $ iterate aux (0,1) !! n < 1378756086 250457 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756087 98745 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756090 408438 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 10 < 1378756093 848322 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 55 < 1378756098 318541 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib 1000 < 1378756101 445858 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 434665576869374564356885276750406258025646605173717804024817290895365554179... < 1378756106 667688 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1378756169 737301 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i do iterate like that does the compiler avoid generating code to actually build the list < 1378756179 485286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let tetration a b = foldr1 (^) $ replicate b a < 1378756180 359199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1378756188 891683 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fib $ tetration 3 4 < 1378756199 847011 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378756205 644997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh :( < 1378756215 17701 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted that i'd use a log definition of fib < 1378756220 181943 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :("yes that would help") < 1378756291 102717 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> tetration 3 4 < 1378756298 750593 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1378756331 885496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the tetration won't do. I guess g_64 is way off limits... < 1378756395 189859 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to g_64, fib g_64 isn't that much bigger :p < 1378756465 643504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried 3 ↑↑ 4 on my machine. forcefully kill -9ed the process after it gobbled a full 4 GB of ram... < 1378756675 442098 :Bike!~Glossina@duncandunn-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378756872 72009 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fib is approximately exponential anyway < 1378757073 758785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 3 ↑↑ 4 has... approximately 3.6*10^12 decimal digits, if I read 'pedia right -- so 4 gigs sounds a bit small for storing the number. < 1378757075 101917 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src tetration < 1378757075 246917 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Where did you learn to type? < 1378757080 330138 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378757122 146548 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, it was growing, and I didn't want my machine to suddenly crash in the middle of good music playing in my headphones. < 1378757160 982548 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"g_64" bam stored!! < 1378757164 366211 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757165 498367 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-0.0,NaN,Infinity,1.584962500721156,1.464973520717927,1.2920296742201791,1... < 1378757179 139100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pipe g_64 to /dev/snd < 1378757190 31124 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50 $ zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757191 94930 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.0206920565661424,1.0202725752914699,1.0198697640046614,1.019482648379181... < 1378757217 311297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[-0.0,NaN,Infinity,1.584962500721156,..." is the best start for a sequence. < 1378757217 484358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 200 $ zipWith logBase <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757218 530638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.005042159409283,1.0050168635833612,1.0049918203018742,1.0049670258016374... < 1378757228 214713 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I like to pipe my swap partition to /dev/snd from time to time. < 1378757234 114313 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what is this exactly < 1378757236 506627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that is unholy. < 1378757258 641810 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: log fib_n / log fib_{n−1} < 1378757260 745765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf ♪dıng♪ you have quotes. < 1378757260 908068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378757265 467677 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378757294 134612 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re: “approximately exponential”, i was curious about that. < 1378757320 533528 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's roughly phi^ or whatever < 1378757358 705942 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> zipWith (/) <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757359 892206 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,0.5,0.6666666666666666,0.6,0.625,0.6153846153846154,0.619047619047... < 1378757379 472828 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that showed that pretty well < 1378757385 131284 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50 $ zipWith (/) <*> tail $ fix ((0:) . (1:) . (zipWith (+) <*> tail)) < 1378757386 226755 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.6180339887498949,0.6180339887498949,0.6180339887498949,0.618033988749894... < 1378757398 521044 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's 1/phi, of course < 1378757402 417434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :known to its close friends as phi-1 < 1378757412 212338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/1\/phi/phi - 1/ < 1378757425 704278 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/phi-1/1 \/ phi/ < 1378757439 126604 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow boily < 1378757462 905839 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you find yourself escaping a slash with a backslash in regexps, you’re Doing It Wrong™. < 1378757463 511957 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't see nothing. < 1378757467 176017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More things should have \ as the reverse division operator. (a\b = b/a.) < 1378757485 68100 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/377120854678585344 this is going well < 1378757520 605740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378757524 177161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Something something Streisand something...’ < 1378757529 457269 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/on-nsa.html said post < 1378757531 414962 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it while it's hot < 1378757551 920207 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Go after the implementation. Cryptography is almost always implemented in software -- and software is a disaster" lol :/ < 1378757587 267264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're a disaster. < 1378757587 837261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i installed wiliki source patches gdbm-ci, and had a simple reader macro in chicken" from google :p. but, this way i have already < 1378757595 785224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'd say that confirms it. < 1378757711 359800 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ugh MAIN macro, great. *WASH_Eyes_outWith_soap*" oh, i see < 1378757751 639685 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ifdef (OMG) if (moo) { ... } else #endif <-- oh < 1378757761 857745 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck moo < 1378757769 285758 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mooed, moo�ing, moos To emit the deep, bellowing sound made by a cow; low. < 1378757770 175737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re backdooring standards, have you seen https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/11/the_strange_sto.html < 1378757788 658992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: one of the NIST recommended PRNGs makes no sense unless designing in a backdoor was a primary concern < 1378757804 252048 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great. < 1378757864 37162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: But what if you *do* need a backdoor? < 1378757867 441914 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fire safety and all < 1378757958 4896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett ♪տինկ♪ you have quotes! < 1378757958 176172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original author of OpenSSL thought it would be a fun way to learn C." o.O < 1378757958 321624 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378757979 627819 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v.fun < 1378758312 53333 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reasons why I should not be an actor: I managed to lose a prop in the 5 or so meters between the props table and the stage < 1378758456 198770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: was it an orange? < 1378758465 245633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a plastic shot glass < 1378759041 984091 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378759078 414916 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759351 808301 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378759490 381617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759653 396300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I reformat ZOMGMODULES, is he/she/they a singular person, or should they be conflagrated with someone else? < 1378759702 262810 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ZOMG* < 1378759711 602505 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomgmodules is chris p., last i checked < 1378759732 132915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: o hai! < 1378759736 666417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hai ^^ < 1378759751 930803 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: oh, thanks! < 1378759778 340195 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378759971 352406 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck do i have texlive installed anyway < 1378759978 881287 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378760002 794131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because you are a responsible adult. < 1378760808 313385 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378761160 587986 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378761361 88388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I think the two oklos are two different people < 1378761384 87086 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1378761388 43492 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you get that idea from < 1378761435 475956 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378761460 500931 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a wise man told me many years ago < 1378761464 461621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was oerjan < 1378761468 300966 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe fizzie < 1378761476 922486 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this wise man oko by any chance < 1378761478 356192 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And by many years ago, I of course mean about two < 1378761481 951380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never trust anything oko says, ever < 1378761539 541097 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am going to stalk sleep and kill it < 1378761543 178767 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1378761544 198133 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378761558 486510 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that fizzie and oerjan may have been answering based on information given to them by oko < 1378761562 553018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you taneb < 1378761812 743407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is wise. oerjan is... uhm... wise too, I guess. < 1378761850 379483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp. Not-bus time again < 1378761852 115454 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1378762143 622527 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 ♪moof♪ you have quotes! < 1378762143 768325 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378762150 742015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungry. < 1378762155 603473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378762156 762251 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378762890 464509 :nooodl!~nooodl@225.175-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378763360 147077 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378763831 128402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378764039 742227 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378764282 173822 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/dennis-rodman-north-korea-baby-name I don't understand anything any more < 1378764290 934442 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378764360 955952 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1378764362 652579 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 NICK :Bike < 1378765049 195696 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 254 seconds < 1378765527 913334 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378765645 732187 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378766707 458394 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378767081 496708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah: python -c 'print u"\N{CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O}"' < 1378767122 137957 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :⎈very useful < 1378767141 853697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767146 37259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767148 87339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1378767156 89193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1378767191 601433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's puzzling < 1378767200 699175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1378767203 630778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}"' < 1378767205 607331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "", line 1, in \ UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2603' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) < 1378767212 116975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print u"\N{SNOWMAN}".encode("utf-8")' < 1378767213 716033 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767217 640292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1378767349 673108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1])\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767353 335553 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767354 36387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767355 761462 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1]) \ UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\u2603' in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) < 1378767364 695227 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint unicodedata.lookup(sys.argv[1]).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767364 971727 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1378767368 961670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767370 166211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767371 873684 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767380 273299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O < 1378767381 988341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ < 1378767413 372795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started writing like eval(r'u"\N{'+sys.argv[1]+'}') and then I was like "... no" < 1378767423 211093 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1378767436 876333 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS AND MACRON < 1378767438 493986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ǟ < 1378767493 281154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint u''.join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767497 86265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767525 689096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' < 1378767527 521356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u.join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ NameError: name 'u' is not defined < 1378767537 917221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '#!/usr/bin/env python\nimport sys\nimport unicodedata\n\nprint u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8")\n' > bin/unicode && chmod +x bin/unicode < 1378767541 398522 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378767542 22438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A' 'LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y' < 1378767544 258108 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1378767551 835201 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1378767553 445538 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1378767567 30968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you need to import unicodedata for something strings need anyway, huh < 1378767622 575260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+034F COMBINING GRAPHEME JOINER < 1378767627 950254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The name does not describe the function of this character. Despite its name, it does not join graphemes." < 1378767637 44379 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it at least combine < 1378767646 165709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H' 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER T' 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H' < 1378767648 152562 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'LATIN MINUSCULE LETTER H'" < 1378767649 599155 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is everything i know a lie. < 1378767651 371672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1378767660 102127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :foiled by terminology < 1378767685 190071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN SMALL LETTER H' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER T' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER H' < 1378767685 377153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe rewrite it to do a nearest edit distance match < 1378767686 961380 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be fun < 1378767687 393913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1378767716 196994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that an international technical standard has an appendix which starts "There are two separate cantillation systems in the Hebrew Bible." < 1378768046 767166 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378768052 474315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : don't you know, you can't be Floating and Integral at the same time. it's totally impossible <-- you make that sound like a challenge. < 1378768216 257335 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oikltsonwgznartv QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378768400 554336 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378768527 689607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378768569 478559 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378769697 719844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770272 503426 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1378770340 425438 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770371 559406 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378770401 672773 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378771333 240022 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1378772187 78215 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :Nisstyre-laptop < 1378772344 227815 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378772502 426069 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre-laptop < 1378772552 612888 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378773282 609504 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378774219 261047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily and may nobody come to me saying copumpkin is someone else without telling me who the someone else is. <-- this may come as a shock to you, but copumpkin is also pumpkin. also, i know who alise is *MWAHAHAHA* < 1378774219 406455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378774550 950306 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378775288 498638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott is even more ancient and insane that I previously thought. <-- there are even more ancient names but they may be older than the quote database. < 1378775288 682060 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378775440 347095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed '/ .*//' quotes < 1378775441 789835 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unknown command: `/' < 1378775444 320980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378775447 920842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/ .*//' quotes < 1378775449 700402 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ IN \ \ \ IN \ \ IN \ \ IN \ SUPLENTES \ PA \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: there is plenty of room to get head twice at once \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, < 1378775576 270500 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhdnlfqmwlfoypd JOIN :#esoteric < 1378775590 704712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the iterative nature of quote deletion means that the database's initial part is much more time than the final part < 1378775600 433315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps exponentially so < 1378775629 710415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tusho < 1378775631 444604 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378775869 424079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some strange reason, alt-up... wait, my p key was stuck and that somehow caused alt-up not to work :P < 1378775941 722268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, keys shouldn't get stuck after just 3 months :( < 1378776132 577015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's not really _that_ surprising. i already know that i cannot push many digit keys simultaneously and expect all to work (because i do this for some of tatham's puzzles which sometimes need me to mark a cell with a lot of digits.) < 1378776200 786009 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that applies to your keys in general, most likely < 1378776209 347228 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(key) < 1378776222 370072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can press 1234 and they all mark, but adding 5 messes that up. < 1378776346 251353 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1378776354 395344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :34, 35, and 45 work, but not 345. < 1378776414 91224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my old laptop didn't have that problem. < 1378776416 885098 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should read the article :p < 1378776433 551176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah but also i should eat -> < 1378776952 925030 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME TO EAT < 1378776962 544708 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/EAT/SLEEP/g < 1378776964 623534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1378776966 514470 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'night < 1378777230 753659 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378777339 611455 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378778605 756964 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378778607 624355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378778611 463826 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think this was slisted yet?) < 1378778703 425561 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we could have an `slistlist to broadcast that there has been an slist < 1378779452 146998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible < 1378780152 572961 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378780184 940714 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378780598 53366 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have an excuse to use *arbitrary language* at work < 1378780628 636086 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1378780633 18840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking to use Tcl. [string map] is... er, convenient, although probably other languages do have similar functionality in their stdlib < 1378780652 100467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1378780658 787035 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5590 < 1378780676 997279 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wt < 1378780678 886041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378780696 610820 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-239-86.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378780793 617849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i suggest using more hungarian < 1378780832 745175 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[string map] is pretty much literally what I want to accomplish < 1378781174 910034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily fizzie is wise. oerjan is... uhm... wise too, I guess. <-- I SENSE SOME HESITATION < 1378781175 94027 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378784786 794164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378784940 373731 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1378785526 196356 :nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378787007 684206 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378790762 922050 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378793069 391511 :leftluggage!~zfedge@c-24-7-49-106.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378793090 745288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE leftluggage < 1378793093 441609 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LeFtLuGgAgE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1378793265 447352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm sure boily was just uncertain between "wise" and some sort of word denoting "even wiser". < 1378793294 964833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1378793306 291679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOUNDS SENSIBLE < 1378793476 465235 :leftluggage!~zfedge@c-24-7-49-106.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1378793641 281890 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378793642 750738 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378793760 347094 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378793805 557088 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Quit: :q < 1378793843 275146 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378794201 791273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378798867 431571 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378799403 318600 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378800280 300419 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378801183 282501 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378801663 635415 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1378803137 89855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You've got 10G quota limit at /home directory by mistake. Mistake was in the 'newuser' script. As a result we just noticed /home is almost full with about 6% of space left. All /home quotas have been fixed, returned back to origins: 1G." < 1378803141 585749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1378804302 301870 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804302 302019 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804302 778114 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804302 948079 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804303 356490 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804303 505824 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804303 810504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804303 956372 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804304 101557 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spwbdopgfsaxucfx QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804304 500234 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804304 654080 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804304 801523 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tfhdnlfqmwlfoypd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804304 801660 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804305 89866 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804305 387274 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804305 707371 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804305 707517 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804305 880341 :`^_^v!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804306 59179 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804306 401389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1378804512 103605 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804577 573020 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804637 801467 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804637 947125 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804637 947263 :`^_^v!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804637 947339 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804637 947412 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 392240 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537530 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537620 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537652 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537714 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537743 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537773 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spwbdopgfsaxucfx JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537803 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537833 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537865 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537897 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378804819 537927 :wolfe.freenode.net MODE #esoteric +o HackEgo : > 1378804819 934831 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378805018 953127 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kevtazlzzwdkpcgt JOIN :#esoteric < 1378805700 419584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378809638 251360 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378810270 140162 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378810821 594523 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378810849 926394 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378812221 441759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378812707 280969 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378812818 350804 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378812832 585037 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1378812853 482450 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378813622 647528 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378814409 364432 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378815095 774899 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378815721 655966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378815721 838041 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378816489 820968 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good criossant morning! < 1378816548 382974 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378816584 659134 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I think the alise mystery got leaked yesterday. but, I happily have a git repo backing the whole thing in case the Revelation was False, and it can be easily unmerged. < 1378816584 842173 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378816626 877995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan that wasn't an hesitation. it was... uh... only a pause. yeah. I was taking a breath, there. y'know, asthma and all that sort of thing... < 1378816627 23259 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378817345 125783 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-51.dataart.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378817431 844487 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378817760 245631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYFB < 1378817761 30001 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYFB 101254Z 32027KT 30SM -SHSN OVC030 RMK SC8 CU ASOCTD < 1378817774 47949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? no temperature??? < 1378817859 275374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar AAXX < 1378817859 555088 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAXX 200000 40650 42960  00201 10278 20114 40008 58003 < 1378817870 523282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP. < 1378817891 54478 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378818089 749292 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378818172 348594 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378818338 149996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378818745 304739 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378818856 313060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378821760 911370 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378821949 331361 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378822429 759562 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378822930 242009 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378823205 317309 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378823340 535507 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1378823364 234828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello! < 1378823631 507986 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378823724 386143 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378823860 128949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378824000 197687 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378824061 259162 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378824301 858273 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378824714 162727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was exploring my old dev folders, and stumbled upon a (not quite bugless) implementation of the Munching Squares: http://pastebin.ca/2447507 < 1378826200 143397 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378826508 586833 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378826576 185797 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust70.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378826583 165167 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust70.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1378826583 310795 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378827472 835333 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378827472 835466 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378827937 38461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378827955 799305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck glossina < 1378827955 945196 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A blood-sucking African fly that transmits sleeping sickness etc.; the tsetse fly. < 1378827999 343396 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, around here blood-sucking flies are called mosquitoes < 1378828032 349893 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378828060 494881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around here they are called #esoteric chatters. < 1378828094 682714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats fizzie with a non-standard, unregulated metric fly swatter --------###
< 1378828109 427262 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378828120 360206 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINK OF THE SI CHILDREN! < 1378828152 441404 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378828152 835794 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 101500Z 06004KT 6SM -DZ BR BKN008 OVC012 16/15 A2997 RMK SF6SF2 SLP149 DENSITY ALT 200FT < 1378828157 877517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1378828158 529513 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1378828162 866144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... crappy weather, got it < 1378828173 329516 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378828226 189364 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378828232 554070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whole week of pure «n'importe quoi», humidly served upon our heads. < 1378828278 373180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday was the last day of summer, according to the headlines. < 1378828280 588845 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. 28 tomorrow < 1378828285 582799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 with Humidex < 1378828292 66822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1378828292 519685 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 101520Z 08007KT 9999 FEW020 BKN095 16/12 Q1018 NOSIG < 1378828366 6692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Horse fly bites are painful, the bites of large specimens especially so. Most short tongued (short proboscid) species of horse flies use their knife-like mandibles to rip and/or slice flesh apart.” < 1378828378 928482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse skin is tough. < 1378828400 849423 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1378828401 386678 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 101520Z 35015KT 9999 SCT029 SCT035 15/09 Q1021 < 1378828401 578494 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not even getting into the growths, either.. < 1378828418 841299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to explain to horse flies that you aren't a horse is a lost and painful cause. < 1378828439 605807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of them only speak greek, not french, ironically < 1378828461 196332 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how to make office365 play nice with an email client? pop3 and however that shit works < 1378828462 71120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you talk to horse flies? < 1378828477 501125 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i /am/ a tsetse. < 1378828503 807317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no, I don't speak any Greek, what makes you think I would? < 1378828574 3414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Δεν έχω ιδέα. < 1378828596 529330 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i don't think that's actual greek! < 1378828608 262038 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Den echo idea? < 1378828613 102552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not. it went through google translate, after all. < 1378828622 394723 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :den echo idea < 1378828636 966248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo den idea. < 1378828637 111961 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :den idea. < 1378828656 385546 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~den echo idea < 1378828656 530968 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1378828664 265967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fix < 1378828682 987944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix ~echo den idea < 1378828684 90040 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Pattern syntax in expression context: ~echoNot in scope: `den' < 1378828684 235463 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you... < 1378828691 403325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: fix < 1378828887 262170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain ~den and > fix should be valid commands. < 1378828888 752501 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378828948 236676 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix (\f n -> if n = 0 then 1 else n * f (n - 1))) 10 < 1378828949 357559 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:20: parse error on input `=' < 1378828957 213037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah! < 1378828961 346773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (fix (\f n -> if n == 0 then 1 else n * f (n - 1))) 10 < 1378828962 574264 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3628800 < 1378828975 232575 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so > fix exists? < 1378828977 999020 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378828984 818349 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix is a function. < 1378828995 68877 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix < 1378828996 239673 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0) < 1378828996 384958 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use ... < 1378829009 383012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain > fix shouldn't exist for my previous complaint about it not existing to be valid < 1378829010 958003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378829087 475755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it doesn't. > is just eval, and "> fix" isn't a distinct thing. < 1378829104 441186 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it is < 1378829105 334646 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1378829109 986596 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does nothing < 1378829111 616712 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix < 1378829112 815209 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0) < 1378829112 961185 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use ... < 1378829113 586219 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does something < 1378829117 752976 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they're not the same < 1378829123 129483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1+) . (fix (\f n -> if n == 0 then 1 else n * f (n - 1))) 4 < 1378829124 349706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable c0) < 1378829124 495278 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use ... < 1378829156 182288 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>  < 1378829157 244588 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: lexical error at character '\SYN' < 1378829159 892624 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378829313 18556 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378829520 431828 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378830216 254624 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378830598 238347 :sdfsdf!57b8e0e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.184.224.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378830701 291807 :sdfsdf!57b8e0e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.184.224.226 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378831329 334122 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378831877 599804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and I still don't know where the quotes end at. < 1378831900 296391 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378832096 537351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/quotes/complaints/ < 1378832108 708202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, as strange as it may appear at first, are two different things. < 1378833075 450071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain about the general unfairness of life. < 1378833076 881506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378833083 606009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a useful device. < 1378833124 383241 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head complaints < 1378833125 677978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378833149 638721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complaints < 1378833150 806098 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378833153 969922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1378833214 491609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complains < 1378833215 838278 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: complains: No such file or directory < 1378833218 763994 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complain < 1378833220 74985 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: complain: No such file or directory < 1378833223 74377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1378833291 275084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, two of our support guys are having a heated discussion on our intranet IRC, trying to put our mail server back online. it's fun to watch :D) < 1378833428 151665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats do complain. < 1378833800 316795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378833903 846907 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you talking about `complain? < 1378833977 23582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: probably. I'm in a post-lunch induced retrogradation of my mental capacities, so I can't assert nothing atm. hth. < 1378833995 668085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :àssert boily < 1378833997 708968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1378834002 707932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`assert boily < 1378834004 78944 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: assert: not found < 1378834005 810239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>nope < 1378834031 274502 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain boily doesn't know how to read the complain file. Please fix. < 1378834032 692468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378834100 952184 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-206-60.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378834150 792924 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome SingingBoyo < 1378834154 495119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07S07inging12Boy14o: Welc09ome03 to th04e04 international hu11b fo02r esote11ric programming lang13uage de03sign and deploymen07t!02 For m11ore inf11ormation, ch06eck o03ut our 08wi04ki:13 ht07tp://esol14angs.org/wiki/Main_10Page.14 (F04or the ot13her kind of esoterica, try #esote04ric on irc11.dal.net.13) < 1378834299 750819 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What did you go eat? < 1378834324 359430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: pulled pork sandwich with a bottle of curiosity cola, at the «Dépanneur le Pick-Up». < 1378834351 393447 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1378834358 484763 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiosity Cola? < 1378834360 402560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good < 1378834360 860433 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-206-60.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378834366 74792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never heard of it, though < 1378834377 422109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain I should have heard of it but haven't until now. < 1378834378 823579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378834433 487797 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://www.fentimans.com/soft_drinks < 1378834451 570360 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378834453 906271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very nice < 1378834459 938212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, it even has water < 1378834467 125625 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And carbonated, at that < 1378834472 283612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do want < 1378834479 695932 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go!" < 1378834483 438236 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo JOIN :#esoteric < 1378834485 331934 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CRAP < 1378834487 33919 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY VOICE < 1378834496 775215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTRL+W to close the cola window < 1378834501 849665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closed the channel tab instead < 1378834504 791968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1378834515 657642 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP my voice, 2013-2013 < 1378834543 288699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you voice me, now that Roujo's Monopoly has ended? pretty please with watery eyes like a young high school girl in a romance anime? < 1378834587 388689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a nice skirt and knee-high socks? < 1378834597 871818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's the key < 1378834607 300500 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, sadly. but I can go fetch a rubber horse head quickly! < 1378834611 772267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378834615 292876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1378834621 248088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not quite sure that it would do < 1378834631 80881 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain I don't have a horse head. D: < 1378834632 604484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378834633 457952 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows. elliott, what do you think? < 1378834641 474997 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's up to elliott now < 1378834732 347612 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378834814 499947 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378834828 983976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: getting a hold of a skirt and socks might be a little bit difficult in my case. my friends object to lending me that kind of accessories, under pretext that «t'aimerais trop ça». < 1378834851 193044 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good call, I guess? =P < 1378834866 574033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wore a dress on stage, once. We did Les Belles Soeurs in High School. =P < 1378834872 467600 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to wear makeup and all. < 1378834916 875609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that... is that a Hexham company? < 1378834950 365973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what, fentiman's? < 1378834954 695310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1378834956 352086 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Fentimans UK, 6 Rear Battle Hill, Hexham" in the bottom. < 1378834967 826719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. the. fungot. < 1378834968 224861 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( except when i'm wasting time on such fnord now and then < 1378834986 176636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds... significant. < 1378835006 279693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also a street called "Rear Battle Hill" sounds slightly dirty.) < 1378835036 213695 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I am seriously shaken, there. < 1378835063 546663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, there aren't any "'"s in the name, apparently.) < 1378835075 502949 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378835093 168441 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378835127 532580 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1378835132 245509 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378835136 496159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most people did < 1378835210 336062 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The world’s best cola" - The Guardian < 1378835218 550844 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham, home of the world's best cola < 1378835230 955673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham, home of the world's best everything. < 1378835258 765088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham is delicious < 1378835261 285003 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find who's selling that thing in Finland. Given the source, it sounds like a kind of a must-have product. < 1378835276 822301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you get that Hexham feeling when you drink their things? < 1378835297 233590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never went to any part of the UK, so I can't relate :( < 1378835297 378675 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I ate like half of Hexham last week < 1378835312 924415 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Fentimans is sold in Canada < 1378835327 542142 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Rear Battle Hill is just the rear of Battle Hill < 1378835347 781625 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So called because there never was a battle fought there, ever < 1378835351 229684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: of course it is sold here. I had one for lunch! < 1378835356 52839 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1378835360 949471 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool < 1378835367 228490 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i was looking up if it was easy to get around here too! < 1378835380 496967 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best < 1378835383 158263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, their ginger beer is the best. < 1378835399 374593 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer the cola. The shandy isn't bad < 1378835424 506501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't seem to have the shandy here, nor the cool ginger beer. < 1378835427 710392 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans.be exists but it's the worst website i've ever experienced. < 1378835461 722360 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, drinkfentimans.com is worse < 1378835501 37171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some Finnish "purchasing solutions for professionals in the HoReCa sector" company who, according to their news page, have it in their selections, but that's probably not a place that'd sell for end users. < 1378835503 640030 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those sites entirely written in Flash < 1378835509 477037 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378835517 289088 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got kicked in the head for wondering aloud why Google Glass doesn't use C# < 1378835519 640453 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :GG me < 1378835542 524996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: kicked by a coworker? < 1378835553 30643 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, "aloud" on another channel < 1378835560 6992 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another network < 1378835563 674340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Their ginger ale seems easier to find than the cola.) < 1378835567 758888 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: very 00s < 1378835626 768940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know it's cool to hate on C# and all < 1378835641 950921 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you'd use it on anything, wouldn't Glasses be a good call? < 1378835807 30040 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, my job is party to code in C#, plus I really like bad puns, so I'm probably biased.) < 1378835874 848600 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just understood the pun.
< 1378835943 242777 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could go into like a dozen shops in Hexham and buy Fentimans < 1378835967 366430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you Hexhamites and your decadent lifestyles... < 1378835968 261170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I am envious. < 1378835988 901874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain Seeing bad puns doesn't happen often enough > complaints/hats < 1378835990 213072 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378836000 805989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an awesomely bad pun Roujo < 1378836007 1442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not that cool to hate on C# < 1378836017 638202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a better Java, and the alternative for Glass would be Java no? < 1378836030 208818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what's cool and not cool, apparently =P < 1378836037 530670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not knowing what's cool is v. cool < 1378836045 304296 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do all of my work on C# and Java < 1378836052 678074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus RPGLE < 1378836054 153446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1378836057 326447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do Amazon.co.uk listings not show anything about shipping to the country listed in my account. It's all about UK delivery. < 1378836064 729679 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :C# is like a better Java but with less being sued by Oracle and more being sued by Microsoft. < 1378836088 798123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grello. < 1378836306 634747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... If I teach programming to my SO using Brainfuck, will that be a good thing or bad thing in the long run? < 1378836319 912950 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming it doesn't kill her outright, of course < 1378836341 466102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's always a good assumption to make < 1378836369 938418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't kill her outright, it'll make her stronger, and then she can overpower you and escape the Brainfuck study sessions. (Something to keep in mind.) < 1378836389 585279 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to have a strong SO to conquer the world... < 1378836532 674977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also keep in mind that some people who learn brainfuck end up getting their brain replaced by a brick < 1378836625 204335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't break my dreams of having a powerful Master of the Earth SO who Knows Brainfuck! < 1378836667 528429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTH OUR DREAMS < 1378836675 378985 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUR SOS WILL RULE THE WORLD < 1378836681 814972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT ON! < 1378837032 453486 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should just become eachother's SO, then you won't have to teach anyone brainfuck < 1378837040 648635 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming you already know it) < 1378837129 665872 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no problems with the skirts and socks and horses, but I don't think our SOs are going to agree. < 1378837557 683834 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378837665 983072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellouglass. < 1378837792 618051 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain about horses < 1378837793 977107 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378837810 471531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378837811 715715 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378837923 751410 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com QUIT : < 1378837966 34898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain this command is a hack! I protest! < 1378837967 275029 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378838152 308088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1378838152 502247 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Enveloping" to "Enveloping" < 1378838332 421388 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378838334 12472 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378838345 878082 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Fiora < 1378838347 383125 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Fiora. Thiora. < 1378838401 102748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` < 1378838402 321199 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1378838509 31077 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1378838509 176271 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Retiring" to "Sojourning" < 1378838510 232838 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks zzzzz < 1378838511 671951 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, zzzzz. Tzzzz. < 1378838555 402742 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fentimans < 1378838557 174210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fentimans is a delicious beverage out from Hexham, that can be paired with a fresh fternooner for a nutritive midday snack. < 1378838748 254815 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? metasepia < 1378838749 535585 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1378838749 984785 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                | < 1378838750 171545 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o < 1378838756 589880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1378838772 278447 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport. < 1378838777 87864 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378838787 543671 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn metasepia knows the weather at your nearest airport, and also something about ducks. < 1378838792 780118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378838825 882864 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Why are you complaining about `complain? < 1378838832 190663 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that a tad too meta? < 1378838848 388615 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain `complain sucks < 1378838849 922531 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378838856 742573 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thaneb. < 1378838871 393098 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain Roujo isn't meta enough. < 1378838872 753631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378838897 464870 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain  < 1378838898 894580 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378839943 95905 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378839978 80081 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1378839984 9177 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.690 < 1378840160 191851 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378840493 783607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ♪vietnam's currency♪ you have quotes! < 1378840578 412877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain that I'm not sure I even have quotes < 1378840579 552291 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378840589 394611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378840591 23872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one < 1378840591 900888 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1378840714 33210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you are a cocoonspirator to the repo. < 1378840735 132114 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cocoonspirator? < 1378840736 563715 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cocoonspirator?: not found < 1378840738 62842 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378840752 682535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator < 1378840754 338784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in catterpillar silk < 1378840772 48249 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1378840775 617757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck catterpillar < 1378840775 762855 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1378840778 977345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck caterpillar < 1378840779 192109 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trademark used for a tractor equipped with continuous chain treads. < 1378840794 731072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1378840799 944869 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378840993 983784 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain in general < 1378840995 393895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378841246 679922 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378841586 219177 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-187-55.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378842533 879277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378844000 192608 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-200-232.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378844939 62851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf +++, < 1378844940 561496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bf: not found < 1378844943 940058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1378845221 722535 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378845300 956186 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378845410 991407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++, < 1378845412 561332 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378845466 309327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]. < 1378845466 631801 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378845479 234402 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1378845479 505879 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1378845485 774679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ↑ < 1378845489 928073 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf [+]+[[+]+] < 1378845497 895362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1378845516 391512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop breaking poor bots, you bully. < 1378845525 371875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's fun! \o/ < 1378845525 641312 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              | < 1378845525 815214 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             /| < 1378845777 835692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf [+]+[[+]+] < 1378845780 776449 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1378845793 143394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The initial [+] does nothing, incidentally. < 1378845827 599395 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it does something if the starting cell has something in it < 1378845835 638433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn't. < 1378845838 165896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not assuming anything here =P < 1378845848 165641 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I take it EgoBot doesn't have any time limit < 1378845861 703246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You ran it as a self-contained program, you can assume an empty tape. < 1378845862 482701 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1378845862 910418 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1378845866 79514 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1378845878 15698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't want to assume anything < 1378845885 638375 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even want to assume that I don't assume anything < 1378845893 159864 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just go and see what happens < 1378845910 200859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preparing to any eventuality, until death does me part < 1378845918 399827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't assume that it's going to happen the same way again, though. < 1378845919 973395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: cf. “Sussman attains enlightenment”. < 1378845922 359875 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :±5%, 19 times out of 20 < 1378845935 168008 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nani? < 1378845944 949609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you're a bit too early. wait for November's elections :D < 1378845949 858294 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html < 1378845975 563335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, 漢字を勉強して！) < 1378845976 381287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1378845980 34120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koans < 1378845981 585585 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUN < 1378845990 104100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read kanji, boily my dear < 1378845999 198431 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: justement. étudie! :D < 1378846016 732785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1378846025 12123 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whyyyy < 1378846029 2097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are like, what... only a few of them? it doesn't take no time at all, I swear. < 1378846031 548890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh; I *thought* EgoBot had some sort of a message on timeout, but it indeed appears not true. < 1378846037 472334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378846053 260502 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's only like, three alphabets, what is even the issue < 1378846056 91166 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm doing perfectly fine with romanization =P < 1378846072 996264 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I've been wanting to learn for the longest time < 1378846106 153783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Japanese is easier than Haskell. < 1378846131 177646 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1378846595 26886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go brave the weather déchaînée and try to get back home safely. < 1378846599 604331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378846599 793273 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 102047Z 11003KT 2 1/2SM -DZ BR FEW008 OVC011 19/18 A2994 RMK SF2SF6 SLP139 DENSITY ALT 500FT < 1378846616 706263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1378846622 740335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378846624 311125 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378846683 614781 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378847645 336309 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378848145 714548 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378850224 186402 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-200-232.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378850344 10457 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo cat < 1378850345 870964 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1378850353 964872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Meow~~ > cat < 1378850358 205242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850360 734076 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo cat < 1378850363 179429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1378850366 44897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378850369 806595 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378850371 463791 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850373 29077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850375 354130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1378850379 261996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat > cat < 1378850382 694212 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: cat: input file is output file < 1378850390 76470 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>=( < 1378850396 210521 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat > cat < 1378850398 18379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850399 696059 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE < 1378850424 111253 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1378850425 789847 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850427 336749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850428 973099 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378850436 128681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Meow~~ > cat < 1378850440 122003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850445 722534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | echo > cat < 1378850450 229092 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850451 655587 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850453 240979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850455 654373 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378850456 145024 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378850460 251524 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Meow~~ > cat < 1378850464 85516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850466 323400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850467 898500 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850476 913184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv cat run < 1378850480 671152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850483 876720 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1378850485 437106 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850493 314612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run | echo > cat < 1378850497 925105 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850498 311612 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378850501 990707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1378850503 426187 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850505 987858 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850507 480560 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850509 105116 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378850517 827241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run > cat < 1378850521 638918 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850523 841378 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378850525 750643 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850530 11379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | echo < 1378850531 648255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850533 396334 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378850534 306536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why < 1378850543 184463 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378850549 537851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Meow~~ > Meow~~ < 1378850553 405477 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850558 597283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat Meow~~ < 1378850560 26037 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850565 105100 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat Meow~~ | echo < 1378850566 635004 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850568 76471 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1378850569 772833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY OH WHY < 1378850576 347423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run | cat < 1378850577 931794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378850586 567715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run | cat > run < 1378850590 613768 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378850596 189413 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1378850607 509569 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does what it's supposed to do < 1378850611 398263 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't do it right < 1378850626 625134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it in a completely weird and all kinds of wrong-way < 1378850628 43525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh < 1378850628 965904 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it < 1378850636 192629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain POULET < 1378850637 462956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378850716 565512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378850722 910724 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378851042 926838 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378851307 746287 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: The > in the pipeline truncates the output file before the first part has time to run, possibly. < 1378851410 459389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foo > foo; (cat foo; echo bar) | sh -c "cat > foo"; cat foo; rm foo # race conditions are fun < 1378851410 730727 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1378851412 483393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar < 1378851415 571168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foo > foo; (cat foo; echo bar) | sh -c "cat > foo"; cat foo; rm foo # race conditions are fun < 1378851417 326751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1378851429 506287 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378851456 126860 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. Without the sh -c, that would be a consistent "bar" only. < 1378851528 708713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in `run cat run | cat > run the shell will open-and-truncate "run" as a part of preparing the pipeline, before exec'ing the "cat run". < 1378851587 759677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it work with `run cat run | cat | sponge run if sponge were installed on HackEgo, which it isn't. < 1378851633 155792 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's sponge again? < 1378851766 806508 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :reads stdin to memory then writes it to the file after reaching the end of input? < 1378851807 372622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1378851919 829282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foo > foo; (cat foo; echo bar) | (sleep 1; tee foo > /dev/null); cat foo; rm foo # poor man's sponge < 1378851922 435545 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo \ bar < 1378851934 713438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fits one pipe buffer's worth of stuff, and only if it's done in a second.) < 1378851986 336811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe the subshell would already have meant that plain (sleep 1; cat > foo) could've been okay.) < 1378852205 299420 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378852294 38968 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378852320 481613 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378852723 418331 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Fj0_IJ4PWQg/Ui93TmpTK_I/AAAAAAAAASc/NQW8D6N19_g/s1600/Untitled-1.png < 1378852740 887106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurk < 1378852810 408108 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1378852829 926312 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have preferred goatse < 1378852839 254226 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1378852849 380874 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378852963 836441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh should i click that link at work or no < 1378852982 974968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure some could categorize it as "obscene material". < 1378852989 921531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends how much your boss hates social media < 1378852994 659534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But perhaps it's not obvious-at-a-glance. < 1378852995 839493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1378853011 536200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1378853027 170340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think one of the little icons should be goatse < 1378853068 340907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever made it seems to also have run out of imagination, because the left half of the little icons is just a copy of the right half. < 1378853224 43513 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378853643 558954 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378853724 498765 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378855459 412408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just stick with `run cat run < 1378855465 471925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thanks, fizzie =) < 1378855906 491776 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378856363 479339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO < 1378856365 384112 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'PILE OF POO'" < 1378856386 545668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode INVISIBLE TIMES < 1378856388 211951 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⁢ < 1378856406 913429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1378856420 139673 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode COMBINING PENIS ABOVE < 1378856421 608054 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'COMBINING PENIS ABOVE'" < 1378856438 886819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR HORSE DUNG < 1378856440 391877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ALCHEMICAL SYMBOL FOR HORSE DUNG'" < 1378856448 650111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it has an old version of the spec :( < 1378856471 912680 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Comments: fimus equinus" < 1378856593 183482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM < 1378856594 834562 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ﯹ < 1378856610 780505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LEFTWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB DOWN ABOVE RIGHTWARDS HARPOON WITH BARB DOWN < 1378856612 446172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⥧ < 1378856620 603679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY < 1378856622 383650 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY'" < 1378856637 329388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ALPHA WITH DASIA AND PERISPOMENI AND PROSGEGRAMMENI < 1378856639 115761 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᾏ < 1378856650 665238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first of these I can actually render (v. poorly) < 1378856658 682775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not including INVISIBLE TIMES < 1378856695 384269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can successfully not render invisible times < 1378856737 326600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode OX < 1378856738 917396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'OX'" < 1378858450 808626 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too =P < 1378858459 361104 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest was just squares < 1378858464 336717 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from INVISIBLE TIMES < 1378858473 312744 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ùnicode GOAT < 1378858475 364162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378858479 776919 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GOAT < 1378858481 451694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GOAT'" < 1378858490 379356 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GOAT RULER OF THE DEEP < 1378858491 960960 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GOAT RULER OF THE DEEP'" < 1378858498 60301 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TRÉMA < 1378858499 988312 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'TR\xc3\x89MA'" < 1378858503 681290 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UNICODE < 1378858505 313727 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UNICODE'" < 1378858508 823665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HAT < 1378858511 275691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HAT'" < 1378858542 212042 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode A < 1378858543 738529 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'A'" < 1378858552 148119 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN LETTER  < 1378858553 776578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'LATIN LETTER \x16'" < 1378858558 648573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN LETTER B < 1378858560 505717 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'LATIN LETTER B'" < 1378858562 766362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1378858574 85976 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK LETTER CAPITAL PHI < 1378858575 806352 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GREEK LETTER CAPITAL PHI'" < 1378858578 452673 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378858584 986996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what I'm doing, tbh < 1378858591 42827 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CAT < 1378858592 807977 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'CAT'" < 1378858595 948807 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NOT CAT < 1378858597 803875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'NOT CAT'" < 1378858599 811381 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UNDEFINED < 1378858601 562227 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UNDEFINED'" < 1378858602 486466 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode NULL < 1378858604 51521 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'NULL'" < 1378858615 196262 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode '; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS; -- < 1378858616 712513 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name ''; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS; --'" < 1378858621 555079 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that's just sad < 1378858622 960306 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378858635 951899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode "; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS; -- < 1378858637 587387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: 'undefined character name \'"; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS; --\'' < 1378858726 831882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1378858847 763608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, SQL injection attacks don't affect unicode characters < 1378858850 93809 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go figure < 1378861033 314131 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1378861140 871983 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378862820 479247 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378862980 969859 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378864516 225141 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god not everything involving "table" uses sql < 1378865034 370029 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+110E4 BOBBY TABLES < 1378865188 786051 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, U+110E48 < 1378865788 39146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/nottechmeme it's beautiful < 1378866166 350233 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1378866359 148562 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378867205 684925 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378868704 723398 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378869672 527417 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378870678 15155 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378872020 133735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378872065 35671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1378872065 181596 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 15h 24m 40s ago: I think the alise mystery got leaked yesterday. but, I happily have a git repo backing the whole thing in case the Revelation was False, and it can be easily unmerged. < 1378872065 181820 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 15h 23m 58s ago: that wasn't an hesitation. it was... uh... only a pause. yeah. I was taking a breath, there. y'know, asthma and all that sort of thing... < 1378872114 956634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily Good, good. Well, not the asthma. < 1378872115 138040 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378872332 679160 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :What’s the alise mystery? < 1378872404 112590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who alise is, of course. < 1378872416 915562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote alise < 1378872418 668109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :91) alise: why internet is like wtf \ 95) like, just like I'd mark "Bob knob hobs deathly poop violation EXCREMENT unto;" as English alise: that's great filler ais523: well it contains all the important words in the english language... \ 98) alise: nobody is allowed to fnord me in soviet russia \ 102) There is Haskell program “pandoc” to convert formats, so I < 1378873841 477475 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make “panchess” which is the similar thing but for chess." < 1378873853 365565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many chess formats are there? < 1378873870 991766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgn, anything else? < 1378873882 893288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebraic notation? < 1378873899 681108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's the algebraic one, the old british whatchamacallit, expanded algebraic whatchamacallit... < 1378873918 952615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being zzo38, i assume he knows other obscure ones. < 1378873978 618062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably including for chess variants. < 1378873995 64150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1378874008 686531 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378874039 865409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_notation#Notation_for_telegraph_and_radio fascinating < 1378874172 324897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wondered why the section link didn't work, then realized he'd included "fascinating"
< 1378874355 325855 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mojibake < 1378874356 928141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mojibake _ÌÌÌ°_ÌÌ̦̻ͭͭͬÌÍÌÌÍ¡_ͧÍÌÍÌ­_ÍÍÍͧÍÌÌ̯Í̬̬̦̯_ÌÌÌͨÌÌ´Í < 1378874755 288079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ^`complain < 1378874793 628961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i kill HackEgo < 1378874796 294674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1378874798 96820 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.8661 < 1378874799 411644 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378874828 400013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suspect ` must be something in regex < 1378874844 815779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1378874848 924585 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs complain < 1378874856 393825 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378874858 869542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16103 < 1378874861 204210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that will give too much < 1378874881 933271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i realized ^ is the problem. < 1378874893 695090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to see if it was empty. < 1378874911 910027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :buggy, you mean. < 1378874939 586560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs > [`]complain < 1378874955 728609 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15733 < 1378874969 942232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah perfect < 1378875018 901631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which complain) < 1378875019 978419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for it containing a complaint about me. sheesh, the nerve... < 1378875020 391327 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" >> complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378875027 480889 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complaints < 1378875028 875333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378875031 141698 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why! < 1378875038 336479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1378875048 66649 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain complaints is empty < 1378875049 400349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378875052 207030 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat complaints < 1378875053 761043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378875057 500830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test >>test; cat test < 1378875061 733703 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo bash- >> /dev/null \ test < 1378875062 957578 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complaints < 1378875064 542187 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wc -l complaints < 1378875070 318282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1378875071 383224 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378875073 751713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm tst < 1378875075 87952 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `tst': No such file or directory < 1378875076 523801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm test < 1378875076 668956 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`?complaints < 1378875077 939116 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?complaints: not found < 1378875080 30353 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1378875080 384458 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378875081 365481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 complaints < 1378875082 31991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test >>test; cat test < 1378875086 15113 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1378875167 131762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l complaints < 1378875169 46816 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 9 Sep 6 22:35 complaints -> /dev/null < 1378875174 230285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378875181 994153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OAKY < 1378875186 511925 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1378875243 300856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that _is_ tradional, i guess. < 1378875320 666158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well `pastelogs exists. < 1378875539 89419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Oooh, it even has water <-- soft drinks without water are not recommended < 1378875539 274351 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378875756 545403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo Oooh, it even has water <-- soft drinks without water are not recommended < 1378875756 726487 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378875783 445804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain @tell _still_ doesn't strip <>s from nicks. or does it? < 1378875785 60018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378875794 176953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FOR SCIENCE! < 1378875794 322441 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378875799 895496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo < 1378875863 357938 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Roujo > 1378875863 563842 NAMES :#esoteric < 1378876059 796987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently google translate thinks t'aimerais trop ça is lithuanian. < 1378876162 321756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily What's "t'aimerais trop ça", google translate seems clueless < 1378876162 467266 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378876341 245055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see the hexham conspiracy thickens. < 1378876397 42577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hexham < 1378876398 595059 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hexham es la ciudad mas importante de programación esotérico < 1378876450 552486 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1378876452 312935 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1378876521 187068 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay chi hua hua < 1378876584 56990 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378876659 946303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378881499 29808 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :discovery: my school has an OED subscription < 1378881512 122669 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there goes 20 hours of my life < 1378882160 576461 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378882824 988829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you read the whole thing in 20 hours? < 1378882841 118982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We have one too.) < 1378883122 861962 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378883847 54661 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I imagine that's roughly how much time I'll waste with it < 1378883966 864628 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378883972 491345 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyyy < 1378884040 210910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shubshub < 1378884044 891002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07shub03s05hub: Welc13o10me to th06e international h14ub 03for04 e02so02teric pr11o14gra06mming 06lang09ua03ge design an03d 11de14ployment02! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/12Main07_Pa06ge. (For t14he 08o09ther ki05nd 12of esoterica, try 02#esoteric on irc11.dal07.net.) < 1378884077 449917 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been here before lol < 1378884085 201560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1378884843 467542 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378884899 927621 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PART :#esoteric < 1378884912 753115 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1378884917 440150 :shubshub!~IceChat77@80.243.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PART :#esoteric < 1378885029 686033 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378885098 967938 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.184.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378885590 959918 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199.119.234.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378886564 529275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fatal fungot failure! < 1378886742 266293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no. < 1378886747 43793 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378886775 834444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Restarting fungot during a meeting: so bad?) < 1378886874 978515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378886919 557833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^celebrate < 1378886919 742250 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o| c.c \o/ ಠ_ಠ \m/ \m/ \o_ c.c _o/ \m/ \m/ ಠ_ಠ \o/ c.c |o/ < 1378886920 161521 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 | c.c.c |  ¯|¯⌠ `\o/´69   | c.c.c |   `\o/´69  ¯|¯⌠ | c.c.c | < 1378886920 332993 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/|  c.c  |\ /< |   |    /|  c.c  >\    |    /| |/´\ c.c /| < 1378886920 602434 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               (_|¯'¯|_)              /`\ < 1378886920 787845 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                    (_| |_) < 1378886935 4562 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199.119.234.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378887059 962854 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199.119.234.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378888133 688257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378888197 394896 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378889339 533446 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378889347 16822 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199.119.234.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378889441 316715 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378889453 632752 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378890054 288854 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378890410 194618 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199.119.234.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378890714 531983 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13852 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378898126 625173 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378898134 166465 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378898363 685061 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378898376 545671 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378899138 121359 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378899217 694613 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378899364 88611 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378899364 892767 :nooodl_!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378899398 705276 :nooodl_!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378899429 731904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378899503 570087 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378900370 189633 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378900435 470396 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378900774 99216 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378901278 748245 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378902104 182089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378902405 688367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378902548 750916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378902549 106282 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378902705 36712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stupid morning! < 1378902770 512214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan «t'aimerais trop ça.» → “you'd like that way too much”. < 1378902770 657531 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378902805 735247 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, boily < 1378902936 842478 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bien le bonjour, Taneb. < 1378902991 553 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my copy of Ryan North's To Be Or Not To Be today < 1378903075 449905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as seen through the Amazon, it looks very interesting! < 1378903117 190072 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378903272 247972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mornike. < 1378903314 978698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo-san gokigen'yō. < 1378904018 163616 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378904281 835279 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378904462 665115 :`^_^v!~nycs@ip-64-32-224-203.nyc.megapath.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378904595 192596 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11D0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378904867 788788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. 2.3215e+54 is a curious value for a probability density function to have. < 1378904949 269534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dirac pulse? < 1378904975 781536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan fuck you canada < 1378905006 215864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live Regina! < 1378905058 259523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's an EM-estimated GMM, but I think there was some forced clamping in the training data, so there's probably quite the sharp peak at the clamping edge. < 1378905113 915082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. couldn't you smooth that? < 1378905121 751344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/couldn/can/ < 1378905169 694350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess, though I'm not sure how much it matters. < 1378905256 833055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The variances of the (8) Gaussian components seem to be 0.0041, 0.0002, 0.0012, 0.0001, 0.0339, 1e-8, 0.0090 and 0.0480. No points for guessing which component mean equals the clamping value. < 1378905356 306771 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«cachez ce 1e-8 que je ne saurais voir.» < 1378905590 646256 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1378905677 655545 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378906595 928329 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378906619 860201 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378906759 353594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378906761 395790 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378906969 796791 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378908152 899436 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1378908192 169896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain `pastewisdom doesn't actually past anything < 1378908193 706316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378908205 633075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain s/past/paste/g < 1378908207 91749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378908215 472704 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain s/pastee/paste/g < 1378908216 807254 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1378908228 945240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1378908229 130362 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 9h 1m 12s ago: Oooh, it even has water <-- soft drinks without water are not recommended < 1378908265 708774 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Oooh, it even has water <-- soft drinks without water are not recommended <-- Are you a soft drink? Didn't think so. Then you don't know the things that I've seen... < 1378908265 863583 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378908280 645743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, wooo, I have voice again < 1378908326 145249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Roujo-san gokigen'yō. <-- Nani? =P < 1378908491 186258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ごきげんよう 《ご機嫌よう; 御機嫌よう》 (int) (1) (uk) how do you do?; nice to meet you; (2) adieu; farewell; bon voyage < 1378908548 54823 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... "Oh hai"? < 1378908689 699123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: quite the formal version of the plebeian “oh hai”, but yes. < 1378908711 813751 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378908713 306356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378908733 476335 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say "Ciao", boily and Roujo, or "Good day" < 1378908782 469398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Say I want to learn me a japanese for great good < 1378908785 606695 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where should I start? < 1378908811 628274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: if we ever meet, I could lend you my schoolbooks. < 1378908813 400412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " lala" < 1378908814 763348 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ lala < 1378908849 135710 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, Roujo, do you have a Taneb/elliott thing going on < 1378908856 291972 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " He's also a NaniDispenser." >> wisdom/boily < 1378908860 75027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: SURE < 1378908860 257320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378908862 727120 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie. live in the same place but have never met < 1378908870 103262 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even worse < 1378908886 369224 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of one of my friends < 1378908900 224778 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, we both live in Montréal < 1378908903 317073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you find this channel independently? < 1378908916 832555 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1378908920 939523 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1378908921 967970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :affirmative. < 1378908923 508328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I just followed ais523 in here < 1378908934 986759 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either ais523 or oerjan, can't remember < 1378908943 516078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got here from the wiki, and elliott's been here pretty much forever < 1378908949 359794 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent a couple of week here before realizing who boily was < 1378908981 213062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo << wisdom/boily < 1378908982 735088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: warning: here-document at line 0 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `wisdom/boily') < 1378908987 98497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well cra < 1378908987 840008 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1378908994 312571 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo < wisdom/boily < 1378908995 940991 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378908999 607053 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378909003 678620 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that actually did < 1378909031 821928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1378909033 774391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. \ He's also a NaniDispenser. < 1378909042 645002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1378909061 989380 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sudo s/ / /g | wisdom/boily < 1378909063 488012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/boily: Permission denied \ bash: sudo: command not found < 1378909074 13111 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't sudo it, it's on root anyway < 1378909076 54637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sudo/sed/ much? < 1378909092 517376 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You seem to be implying that I know what I'm doing < 1378909113 749015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me re`learn myself there... :P < 1378909124 385509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed s/sudo/sed/g | sudo s/ / /g | wisdom/boily < 1378909138 77140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser. < 1378909148 18947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I broke something < 1378909163 472053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1378909187 111657 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: wisdom/boily: Permission denied \ bash: sudo: command not found < 1378909190 42716 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378909191 509745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, and Go. < 1378909200 423969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. That took a while. < 1378909243 907271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed s/(.)/\1/g < 1378909245 275631 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `sed s/(.)/\1/g' < 1378909260 348352 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1378909402 984570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo poulet | sed -i 's/(.)/\1/g' < 1378909404 417083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 10: invalid reference \1 on `s' command's RHS < 1378909433 60649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo poulet | sed -i 's/(.)/\0/g' < 1378909434 473601 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: no input files < 1378909438 340837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh là. < 1378909460 492170 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1378909461 844469 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1378911279 536377 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378911537 743300 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378912420 516109 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378912467 486822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378912468 20894 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 111500Z 22011G16KT 10SM FEW006 FEW240 27/22 A2991 RMK CF1CI2 CF TR CF TR SLP127 DENSITY ALT 1500FT < 1378912469 327595 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378912485 627593 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378912562 914001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'm cumulating today's METARs at CYUL. so far I have 7 entries: http://pastebin.ca/2448292 < 1378912571 129492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378912577 753843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1378912586 378285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the ceiling is going up < 1378912598 778370 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is pretty cool if you're 2k feet tall < 1378912662 111508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1378912662 257068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 2h 44m 51s ago: «t'aimerais trop ça.» → “you'd like that way too much”. < 1378912662 402695 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo said 1h 13m 16s ago: Oooh, it even has water <-- soft drinks without water are not recommended <-- Are you a soft drink? Didn't think so. Then you don't know the things that I've seen... < 1378912708 311618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the layer at 24 000' is thickening. air pressure is still quite wobbly. I guess we're set to have interesting storms. < 1378912943 633116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `complain `pastewisdom doesn't actually past anything <-- that's a feature of `paste which i may be the one who programmed. < 1378912952 820038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pastewisdom < 1378912954 605972 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378912963 735794 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's just wrong < 1378912966 27043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok maybe not < 1378912968 392263 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't actually paste anything < 1378912972 628632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much less wisdom < 1378912975 112955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine.. < 1378912999 345254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat >> bin/pastewisdom < 1378913001 898234 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1378913003 305383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378913010 3447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :will you bloody stop that < 1378913018 414441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1378913019 885822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378913031 958844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378913033 472737 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ \ /hackenv/bin/pastewisdom: 3: Meow~~: not found < 1378913037 330675 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378913046 297935 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was echo Meow~~ < 1378913047 715799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1378913052 488531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fix it < 1378913056 74079 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1378913059 619242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1378913064 632156 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1378913066 16973 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1378913069 402704 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go~~ < 1378913085 3293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url wisdom < 1378913087 422369 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/wisdom < 1378913106 702089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's why it doesn't use `paste directly. < 1378913117 37026 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good call < 1378913125 507472 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? irrelevant info < 1378913127 359748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :K�H�L?����%y�9v���n�kM_��v�4�6���$Tn�`��ʋ�xk��H2���gq�H;!�;2�F�(zإ���2C�m��X��W < 1378913135 645753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would then only show the directory listing rather than having links. < 1378913151 130120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ỹõũ ãr̃ẽ ãb̃ũs̃ĩñg̃ t̃h̃ẽ t̃ĩl̃d̃ẽ t̃õd̃ãỹ. < 1378913166 338151 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And you just took the crown =P < 1378913202 318966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, my bro just commented on the wisdom PDF. his reply: «Weeeeeirdooooooo. < 1378913204 805665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :» < 1378913259 812320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :insufficiently nerdy brother, check < 1378913295 116288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is supposedly the board game geek too < 1378913303 91624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1378913376 147015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: do you witness that? someone not believing in Pouti's nerdiness. < 1378913417 472542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey he doesn't approve of the wisdom PDF, what more proof do i need? < 1378913430 189120 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11D0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378913456 237167 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he was probably commenting on the fact that I LaTeXed the whole thing, knowing him. < 1378913493 705930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he disapproves of latex? your brother is the anti-knuth! < 1378913507 5776 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a proper little brother, he has this playful antagonistic stance with me, like not wearing an orange shirt on Friday purposefully) < 1378913523 915195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very antagonistic. < 1378913535 373632 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an elder brother myself, I can sympathize < 1378913557 74161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure this orange shirt thing is very important to the quebecois somehow. < 1378913597 637036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i forgot the accent again. also which one it is, and possibly where to put it. < 1378913611 766474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quebecöis < 1378913619 527616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good < 1378913625 123337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antagonistic Québécois is Antagonistic < 1378913656 772404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what there's actually supposed to be two? < 1378913670 798205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, yeah? what's the problem? < 1378913697 733650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the accents are breeding and taking over the world? < 1378913730 811619 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't knöw what you'rè talkíng aböût < 1378913741 126621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1378913815 685750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/->/-́>̌/ < 1378913897 189030 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11D0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378913947 303487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nô < 1378914090 250054 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378914207 120893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so what does nani mean < 1378914242 234429 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what. < 1378914263 839288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : boily: Roujo-san gokigen'yō. <-- Nani? =P < 1378914270 637946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1378914272 297809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what. < 1378914273 46056 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser. < 1378914284 657691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those. < 1378914289 544910 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means what. < 1378914294 457206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378914354 884810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you mr. abbott. < 1378914470 303803 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes < 1378914473 957058 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, who's on nani? < 1378914549 762197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah google translate can give suggestions if you write the romaji < 1378914689 410543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the boring way. it's much better to reenact old sketches, I say. < 1378914705 41949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite. < 1378914743 448066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just installed vim2hs. automatic indentation, integration with syntastic and hlint, folding of top-level declarations... < 1378914766 618685 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat oerjan > oerjan2thereturnofoerjan | /dev/null < 1378914770 824414 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /dev/null: Permission denied \ cat: oerjan: No such file or directory < 1378914780 593364 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean I can't pipe stuff to the void < 1378914782 590432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is 4m5a6g7i8c9a10l < 1378914821 681893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else thinks Roujo should learn a little more shell before experimenting with HackEgo. < 1378914834 692291 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I vote NAY. < 1378914840 754008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1378914975 576637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What use is a bot if you can't fuck up its filesystem every once in a while < 1378915010 670641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about fucking up fucking up the filesystem here. < 1378915027 28978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915028 831840 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ bsdmreclist \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ Meow~~ \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan2thereturnofoerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ raise_them \ random \ run \ share \ src \ test \ testing \ < 1378915035 176838 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more serious note, I know I still have much to learn re: shell scripts, but I'm figuring I might as well learn it here, where people can help me. Worst case, I just `revert the mess I made. < 1378915079 537497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bsd* < 1378915081 145839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bsd*: No such file or directory < 1378915083 886612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bsd* < 1378915085 299862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1378915118 308544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/b??mreclist < 1378915120 406932 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/b??mreclist: No such file or directory < 1378915129 545736 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh that's why there were two < 1378915129 961650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/b*reclist < 1378915131 938308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access wisdom/b*reclist: No such file or directory < 1378915133 431057 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im dyslexic < 1378915139 776626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1378915145 521753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bds* < 1378915146 837079 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bds*: No such file or directory < 1378915149 237470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bds* < 1378915150 864320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* oerjan swats quintopia -----### < 1378915161 863578 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bdsmreclist bsdmreclist > bdsmreclist. < 1378915165 919293 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915174 338339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you know that doesn't work. < 1378915178 504004 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bdsmreclist bsdmreclist < 1378915180 126816 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `bdsmreclist bsdmreclist': No such file or directory < 1378915193 509472 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bdsmreclist < 1378915196 317354 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bsdmreclist < 1378915197 2425 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915200 378821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915203 983748 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist < 1378915205 553121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1378915214 861558 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378915220 258481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... what < 1378915223 167417 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bdsmreclist. bdsmreclist < 1378915226 699630 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915227 302554 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bdsmreclist < 1378915228 755006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* oerjan swats quintopia -----### \ Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1378915229 779550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: stop making the same error i keep doing < 1378915235 22709 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect < 1378915236 541494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378915240 286080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv vs `run mv < 1378915241 538550 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `vs `run mv' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1378915245 126710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1378915252 163496 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat oerjan < 1378915253 575569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: oerjan: No such file or directory < 1378915259 721044 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch oerjan < 1378915262 871762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915278 506311 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you exist! =D < 1378915288 28379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls oerjan < 1378915289 794650 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1378915304 137816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it supports empty files now? < 1378915324 475462 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's directories it doesn't do < 1378915345 798224 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm oerjan < 1378915349 89516 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915350 619884 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir oerjan < 1378915352 85069 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915355 912162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. Happy&? < 1378915369 446648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls oerjan < 1378915371 187278 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915381 754542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -ld oerjan < 1378915383 493473 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1378915387 645377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld oerjan < 1378915389 532481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Sep 11 16:02 oerjan < 1378915401 185984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think you are mistaken < 1378915414 544325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915416 158524 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ a.out \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ god \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ Meow~~ \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ oerjan2thereturnofoerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ raise_them \ random \ run \ share \ src \ test \ testing \ wisd < 1378915444 793553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm oerjan2* a.out < 1378915448 635269 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915470 429426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat god < 1378915472 26143 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915476 364662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm god < 1378915479 759924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915481 866987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378915489 989463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat run < 1378915491 276212 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915494 239598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm run < 1378915497 708986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915506 561766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat random < 1378915508 134034 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�W��C���`\�R:6`�nq�q ��z�i2��JOĄSgKS��p��2���"�a�f%s{}bԤc�a�;�8��螧W[���c�q ƃ��Z��,i�*��`(�o�3֮kS�'�X�l+���!�K�:-��A����$p����%�8��C��&�«�*��� X���$��[_4�J0��O�)H�~l��N��v���khT�H�,��I�Rw �}m�j�È� < 1378915514 6089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l random < 1378915515 533875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1378915519 567800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l random < 1378915521 76487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 0 499 Aug 19 17:48 random < 1378915526 856740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm random < 1378915530 165903 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915532 485205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915533 854495 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a.c \ bdsmreclist \ bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ Meow~~ \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ raise_them \ share \ src \ test \ testing \ wisdom \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915534 124612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan the Cleaner < 1378915540 492009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat a.c < 1378915541 929216 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :main() { foo:; int x = 3; goto foo; } < 1378915546 732731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm a.c < 1378915550 249735 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915568 353863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bdsmreclist wisdom < 1378915571 792214 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915576 467955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1378915577 967747 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378915581 104198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm cat < 1378915582 829677 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1378915584 554211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915587 346493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cat! < 1378915590 266313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat Meow~~ < 1378915591 530055 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378915598 941481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm Meow~~ < 1378915602 457022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915603 955158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915608 38880 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ canary \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ raise_them \ share \ src \ test \ testing \ wisdom \ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915639 590823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat raise_them < 1378915641 122308 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915654 743557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915656 65051 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915663 828964 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat raise_them | rm < 1378915666 48698 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1378915668 732363 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1378915680 738678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't that work? < 1378915692 95571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fgrep 'ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ' wisdom/* < 1378915694 774402 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/solain:ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ \ wisdom/ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ:ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ Your dongers. Raise them. ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915707 378092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm raise_them ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1378915711 144164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915713 737451 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that was to mess with solain a bit < 1378915716 193259 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun times < 1378915729 113582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wisdom ones can stay < 1378915740 597368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat testing < 1378915742 207749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test *test* test < 1378915745 341233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat test < 1378915746 683400 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1378915753 674148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm test* < 1378915756 277034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915758 214062 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915759 548777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ gg \ hi-bool.bf \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1378915770 833561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir oerjan < 1378915772 25976 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `oerjan': Directory not empty < 1378915778 64891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1378915781 561197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls oerjan < 1378915783 209726 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1378915802 212226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat oerjan/cat < 1378915803 452996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378915814 32656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1378915815 588294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ construct_grams.pl \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1378915830 845576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv oerjan/cat share; rmdir oerjan < 1378915834 308971 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915836 763250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat gg < 1378915838 31195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1378915840 525406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm gg < 1378915843 992132 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915849 404018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat hi-bool.bf < 1378915850 570141 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :01001000 H \ "'""'""".> \ 01100101 e \ "''""'"'.> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01101111 o \ "''"''''.> \ 00100000 \ ""'""""".> \ 01010111 W \ "'"'"'''.> \ 01101111 o \ "''"''''.> \ 01110010 r \ "'''""'".> \ 01101100 l \ "''"''"".> \ 01100100 d \ "''""'"".> \ 00100001 \ ""'""""'.> \ 00001010 \ """"'"'".> < 1378915863 540714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm hi-bool.bf < 1378915866 97493 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* < 1378915866 879041 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915868 126556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915870 419782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ OUMF \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1378915870 565269 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://50.117.26.26:9903/Live | (#1 - 0/500) MitamineLab < 1378915903 723481 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you realise the irony of the botspam here? :P < 1378915908 80777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat OUMF < 1378915909 517111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915916 384546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm OUMF < 1378915919 883174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915937 345370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -ld oerjan < 1378915938 997255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1378915943 849261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld oerjan < 1378915945 701126 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 0 4096 Sep 11 16:11 oerjan < 1378915951 226079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir oerjan < 1378915952 573941 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rmdir: failed to remove `oerjan': Directory not empty < 1378915970 626747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls oerjan < 1378915972 233741 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1378915976 784997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1378915978 345547 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1378915986 526448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf oerjan < 1378915990 65702 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378915991 671887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1378915993 453813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ ibin \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ multiply.bf \ no \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1378916015 283613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok enough for now < 1378916031 291208 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :such clean < 1378916130 892629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i think the top directory listing should fit on one line so people can see what's in the directories below. < 1378916159 586993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it tends to fill up with junk after a while. < 1378916167 744694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :True ^^ < 1378916189 457317 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I can still `run cat cat < 1378916196 842883 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is all I'm asking, really < 1378916239 10164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...didn't i remove the cat :( < 1378916255 409962 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat < 1378916256 869132 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1378916491 814589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why doesn't that work? <-- because rm takes arguments, not input < 1378916494 634629 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kevtazlzzwdkpcgt QUIT :Changing host < 1378916494 780110 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1378916494 780269 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1378916494 780353 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kevtazlzzwdkpcgt JOIN :#esoteric < 1378916498 988707 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh < 1378916502 582137 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378916514 171375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you may want to check out xargs) < 1378916636 81601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you don't want that but _if_ you found a situation where you need to turn input into arguments, you would. < 1378916782 734303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: | makes the output of the first command into the input of the second. < 1378916875 362300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see ^^ < 1378916892 764322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of unix's great inventions. < 1378916899 216665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378917073 78353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference between `run and without run is a HackEgo thing, which makes it too easy to forget for those who know shell. :( < 1378917081 394211 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah =P < 1378917091 251804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1378917092 785121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1378917096 300734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`freedom run < 1378917098 70138 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1378917114 15730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. Freedom doesn't take arguments, so it doesn't care, right? < 1378917126 328902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/freedom < 1378917127 934767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1378917131 898666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378917135 183898 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378917161 180375 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically, `command arg1 arg2 turns it into one argument that's "arg1 arg2"? < 1378917170 564813 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :While `run command arg1 arg2 correctly handles the arguments < 1378917172 362043 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1378917173 351142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378917178 861287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh =P < 1378917187 4324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well correctly according to shell convention. < 1378917226 497350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so that HackEgo can have commands that treat their argument line however they want. < 1378917252 292316 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378917261 524467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise you'd have to use shell escaping on everything. < 1378917327 104776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/run < 1378917328 458242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run < 1378917338 536870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the actual implementation < 1378917355 124220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `run is special cased so that it cannot be broken. < 1378917376 359870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1378917377 770398 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :run < 1378917389 391969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/run < 1378917390 879222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /bin/run: No such file or directory < 1378917404 928091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'special cased' as in 'not in the filesystem' < 1378917407 251628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/cat < 1378917408 666833 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/cat: No such file or directory < 1378917411 457381 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat /bin/cat < 1378917411 602943 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfun fact: you can have either of `run and `revert be implemented in bin/, but both means you can break it irrecoverably < 1378917413 43772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ELF............>.....�@.....@.......@�..........@.8..@.........@.......@.@.....@.@.....�.......�............................@......@............................................@.......@.....̲......̲........ .............�.......�`......�`.....T......�........ ...........(�......(�`.....(�`.....�.......�................ < 1378917415 695505 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without Gregor's intervention) < 1378917431 592361 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing that's not the case, then ^^ < 1378917482 848027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to determine who's using the shell? < 1378917497 257811 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, differentiate between me using a command and oerjan using it? < 1378917499 699549 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can look at the logs < 1378917505 628080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a command, I mean < 1378917507 831181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well you cannot break just `run irrecoverably, i think. < 1378917508 232082 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you can look at the logs < 1378917514 144695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1378917522 559831 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: What do you mean? < 1378917527 65038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is ok if you can break `run as long as you can `revert < 1378917534 332949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can grep the logs to see who's running the current command < 1378917540 836611 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is ok if you can break `revert as long as you can `run the equivalent < 1378917545 271110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, cool. Thanks Bike < 1378917550 578439 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if both break you can't do much. < 1378917553 839617 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see `list for an example < 1378917556 975797 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we still have it, anyway < 1378917557 650271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1378917562 395781 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you fool < 1378917564 527902 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1378917566 529619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hm i was thinking you could `/bin/sh but of course that won't work due to just one argument. < 1378917570 937180 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378917572 914936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, guys < 1378917575 541788 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1378917575 706054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe `/usr/bin/env < 1378917578 447286 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/usr/bin/env ls --help < 1378917580 220323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/env: ls --help: No such file or directory < 1378917582 297536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :list lists everyone who's ever run `list < 1378917583 552881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. < 1378917592 125553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you're on the list!! forever!! < 1378917595 857748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job you fool < 1378917606 433602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in good company =P < 1378917610 867432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1378917611 157164 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU FOOL < 1378917617 859579 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list bike < 1378917620 411265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1378917622 879216 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378917627 970488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you are < 1378917628 165752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... How does it work? < 1378917637 345270 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which list) < 1378917638 16885 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat list < 1378917638 819928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ grep '^..:..:..: <[^>]*> `list' /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt | sed 's/^.*.*//;s/_*$//' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ' < 1378917639 304341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: list: No such file or directory < 1378917647 877007 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1378917651 987897 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice nice nice < 1378917669 861113 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gonna break when we hit 2020 < 1378917670 244452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic < 1378917680 394841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can just grep the last command from IRC and act according to that < 1378917680 764797 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't break < 1378917684 100748 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll just attain perfection! < 1378917709 513942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: beware of race conditions < 1378917709 740581 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /var/irclogs < 1378917711 285684 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ai \ _corewars \ _esoteric \ _esoteric-chess-variants \ _esoteric-minecraft \ _esoteric_shadow \ _\FRIends*foR*evEr\ \ _FRIends*foR*evEr \ _glogbot \ index.php \ log \ log.css \ log.js \ _plof \ raw \ _scapegoat \ stalker.php \ _weaaM < 1378917729 428536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: looking at the logs won't work for commands in private btw < 1378917739 981898 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1378917763 241315 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well =P < 1378917999 962155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`head /var/irclogs/_esoteric/2013-09-11.txt < 1378918001 302075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:14:10: Me too =P \ 00:14:19: The rest was just squares \ 00:14:24: Apart from INVISIBLE TIMES \ 00:14:33: ùnicode GOAT \ 00:14:35: ... \ 00:14:39: `unicode GOAT \ 00:14:41: Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(un < 1378918046 126215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: actually you can fix it with `fetch, as long as that works. < 1378918060 479547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by doing `/bin/sh fixscript? < 1378918063 692719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1378918078 862193 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm so you could have every single command be in bin/ then, I suppose < 1378918083 767366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it'd be a fuss when people are idiots < 1378918166 549786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1378918178 229169 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378918179 119094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: no, more idiots than that. < 1378918189 865942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you just do something. < 1378918194 783332 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah =P < 1378918201 271946 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just felt targetted < 1378918211 797827 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378918218 539286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I try not to break anything permanently < 1378918234 139129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly just put stuff in bin/ that overrides stuff in /bin/ < 1378918282 480841 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` q < 1378918283 896978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1378918295 746527 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'exec "$@"' >bin/\`; chmod +x bin/\` < 1378918299 569289 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918300 718058 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | cat < 1378918302 10206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 1: exec: echo hi | cat: not found < 1378918321 964498 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/sh' > bin\`; echo 'exec bash -c "$@"' >>bin/\`; chmod +x bin/\` < 1378918325 274124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918325 885386 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | cat < 1378918327 269481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 1: exec: echo hi | cat: not found < 1378918333 875591 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378918341 268006 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/sh' > bin\`; echo 'exec bash -c "$*"' >>bin/\`; chmod +x bin/\` < 1378918345 597963 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918346 329684 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | cat < 1378918347 837803 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 1: exec: echo hi | cat: not found < 1378918359 410915 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/sh' > bin\`; echo 'exec $*' >>bin/\`; chmod +x bin/\` < 1378918363 254820 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378918363 401772 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | cat < 1378918363 645834 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918364 685891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/`: line 1: exec: echo hi | cat: not found < 1378918367 940813 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm bin/` < 1378918369 36389 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1378918371 874502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918387 342055 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` < 1378918388 859565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `: not found < 1378918393 596464 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378918397 182767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You rm'd it < 1378918453 895963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378918549 397004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1378918552 137422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1378918553 814761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1378918555 226258 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec "$@" \ exec bash -c "$@" \ exec bash -c "$*" \ exec $* < 1378918560 946396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1378918603 950455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'exec bash -c "$1"' >bin/\` < 1378918607 620797 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378918621 549532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo hi | cat < 1378918623 54878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1378918632 237041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi | cat < 1378918632 382313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi |cat < 1378918633 793694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378918633 939149 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378918800 269170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378918826 160912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reflections on trusting trust thing is really annoying me atm < 1378918845 196598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what #esoteric could plausibly do? a stack of languages that bootstraps a C compiler from x86 machine code < 1378918855 981590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dangers of reading proggit < 1378918856 463022 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with each individual stage being simple enough that the source code can be read to verify that there's no backdoor < 1378918862 678498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, it's all over the place there < 1378918874 967058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO it's a nonissue, but from-zero-to-C sounds like an interesting project anyway < 1378918885 713136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the ACS has significantly dropped. < 1378918886 107841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the evil compiler thing? < 1378918889 44818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because it's what the still-unfinished Underlambda was invented for < 1378918890 670068 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dwheeler.com/trusting-trust/ [actual thesis] < 1378918899 725281 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um dissertation I guess < 1378918934 465730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read it < 1378918979 238179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more that I think the verifiable-stack thing would be an interesting project < 1378918989 283577 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not Reflections on Trusting Trust, if you're assuming it is; but I mainly linked it for others < 1378918997 936483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the diverse double compiling thing, isn't it? < 1378919027 522632 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378919077 729949 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1378919121 290978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you get really paranoid people who worry if maybe all the compilers currently in existence are compromised, with knowledge of each other to propagate it indefinitely < 1378919137 396577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so theoretically there's a small security benefit from the zero-to-C thing < 1378919145 302236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the remaining potential issue would be a backdoor in the processor < 1378919161 535716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to synthesize your own processor in order to get around the issue < 1378919174 797550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :people should write their new projects without using any preprocessor directive. < 1378919176 913373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's getting a little extreme, and what if there's a backdoor in the synthesis tools as well? < 1378919186 138511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you're worried about a trusting-trust attack on cpp? < 1378919201 85730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: me? oh, no. I just like people suffering when writing cpp. < 1378919201 231262 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What sort of path would 0->C take? < 1378919205 315819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be rather easier than one against gcc, come to think of it < 1378919217 973113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was thinking Forth -> Underlambda -> not sure < 1378919220 37114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From zero to c in 60 seconds." < 1378919234 698884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe directly, Underlambda can be high-level when it feels like it < 1378919235 994096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that's ridiculous acceleration < 1378919248 921759 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is Underlambda spec available anywhere? < 1378919256 174684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, because it isn't finished < 1378919260 871221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ['0'..'C'] < 1378919261 799667 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "0123456789:;<=>?@ABC" < 1378919264 223933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was invented for these sort of purposes < 1378919272 690962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think Underload with a bunch of extra commands added and no S < 1378919282 495526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite a strong influence on Snowflake, fwiw < 1378919310 532856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard for me to imagine concatenative languages without things like infra/ultra nowadays < 1378919312 346739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s,\, fwiw, hth, < 1378919342 741984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allow you to conflate data manipulation commands and stack manipulation commands < 1378919458 48947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1378919686 205384 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378920250 824768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck concatenative < 1378920251 143354 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: a Ruby DSL for concatenative programming (Ruby). < 1378920265 866685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. the horror. another ruby DSL. < 1378920395 910937 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378920566 610957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably not the best result, really < 1378920574 852009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think Underload for what concatenative languages are normally like < 1378920582 170689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or for a less esoteric example, Joy < 1378920594 419804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had forth in mind, but any reason to think more about underload is good. < 1378920634 604163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way, befunge is also concatenative. well, in four ways. < 1378920666 217810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not 100% concatenative because of g < 1378920675 881739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like Underload is not 100% pure functional because of S < 1378920735 134730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the problem I have with IO actions that don't do nothing else than output data. < 1378920758 854435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they're obviously not pure, but from a practical standpoint they're predictable and don't alter the state of the running program. < 1378920800 170848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, from mathematics "S" is evil, but from programming it's just plain old print. < 1378920850 899546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to rewirte the universe over to get pure IO. < 1378920962 259683 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378921026 40668 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 NICK :Bike < 1378921026 222133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would pure IO be? < 1378921063 632322 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my understanding, pure means "with no side-effects", right? < 1378921116 156495 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is pure io < 1378921124 927624 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1378921142 541329 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paging boily ^^ < 1378921152 273987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chu là, chu là... < 1378921166 474731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1378921167 674805 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1378921177 181027 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure IO is something that doesn't exist in this Universe. we need a new one. < 1378921209 437578 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a World... where IO has no Side Effects... where everything is Pure and hasn't been Tainted by Procedures... < 1378921222 693886 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :charming < 1378921234 905009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But doesn't IO pretty much imply that there's a side-effect somewhere? < 1378921236 581337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378921242 111054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, whatever you wrote to? < 1378921245 529610 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on what you mean by IO i guess < 1378921254 512746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on waht you mean by universe. < 1378921258 36404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, S is evil because it can distinguish between equivalent functions < 1378921258 588750 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just consider the output part < 1378921274 183730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I write to a file, there's an obvious side-effect that the file is now bigger < 1378921299 129767 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not having that side-effect implies that the file will be in the same state no matter how many times I call write("Hello world") < 1378921310 440056 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... < 1378921311 937748 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which kind of sounds impossible to me < 1378921327 468314 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have write(file,"Hello world") return the new state of the file < 1378921329 808734 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to track the original source code of every bit of code < 1378921330 840608 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sorta thing < 1378921347 237171 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then it's not really a file, is it? It's just a state in memory. < 1378921353 609837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use the Haskell cheat, and have your program output a description of how to interactively modify the universe < 1378921366 825945 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what's the difference < 1378921397 73674 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the difference would be that you don't have the old file anymore < 1378921410 715410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: write(file, "Bonjour tout le monde") is a uniqueness type. < 1378921410 958287 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :File file2 = write(file, "Hello world") < 1378921423 293237 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mom's a uniqueness type. < 1378921436 832140 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: so? < 1378921446 153752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1378921449 499671 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378921472 611475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you have to keep file around < 1378921476 504260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you unique? do you cheat with side-effects? what do you think of writing an apple pie? < 1378921481 325113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you could use it again, I guess? < 1378921497 531509 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I'm not all that good at thinking the functional way < 1378921514 729057 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378921576 666118 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there even variables in pure functional languages? < 1378921587 117215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing that there aren't, but I'm not sure < 1378921595 429703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are, but they aren't what you're thinking about. < 1378921606 971426 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they're not exactly variable, right? < 1378921616 855404 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: in the function \x -> x * x, the value of "x" in the functional body is variable < 1378921628 466254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1378921629 577395 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"variable" doesn't mean "is explicitly altered" < 1378921646 828258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just means "can take different values", right? < 1378921649 898535 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that it's not always the same value. "varying", if you wil < 1378921651 74303 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_(mathematics) < 1378921653 212679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it < 1378921658 962490 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, math < 1378921688 299931 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1378921689 850391 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: for parallel programming, you can have something that looks like a variable, acts like a variable, but in essence is not. it's more like message passing. < 1378921703 328465 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more of a duck < 1378921705 334335 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you have a file you want to write to < 1378921724 449698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :write(read("myfile"), "Hello world") < 1378921733 615169 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would return... a new file object? < 1378921739 897991 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's one way < 1378921751 618755 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell you instead of "doing" IO return a "thing that does IO", like ais said < 1378921756 452432 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then if I call read("myfile") again, the file isn't the same, right? < 1378921758 559481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1378921764 681356 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what a monad is? < 1378921770 65768 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1378921772 417180 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1378921772 567746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1378921783 773918 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard about monads, I just don't know what they are =P < 1378921791 595492 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1378921797 522912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are a good way to understand monads. < 1378921799 438310 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monads don't matter right now < 1378921800 655103 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically a non-functional program involves implicit state < 1378921802 200089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1378921805 377004 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as the state of the file system < 1378921807 807014 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1378921812 726064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a functional system, all this state is made explicit < 1378921816 359729 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow or another < 1378921861 911852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you call write(read("myfile), "Hello world) < 1378921872 964304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it returns some "thing" that'll write to the file? < 1378921893 519402 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :world")* < 1378921924 859336 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having the same interrogations as Roujo < 1378921935 911411 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Ocaml the read and write functions aren't really functional at all < 1378921939 939292 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378921951 189620 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378921951 334834 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fuck everythigngn < 1378921954 649078 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY BIKE < 1378921957 674848 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :read error eh < 1378921957 949667 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1378921980 794752 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i bump my netbook the network card dies < 1378921985 804793 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sad < 1378921992 919931 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how external read/write functions can be, well, functional at all < 1378921996 579149 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But eh < 1378922011 736007 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the thing you said is one way. < 1378922031 628345 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Is there another, purely functional way? < 1378922032 579391 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: another way is to pass the state of the filesystem around, like i said. this could be somewhat less practical because that's probably pretty big, but whatever. < 1378922040 212296 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh =P < 1378922050 513699 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually read much of this but the focus on state is misleading. < 1378922050 659047 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you return a whole new computer with the file edited? < 1378922063 787869 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well excuuuuuuse me princess < 1378922067 510195 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Try a whole new universe < 1378922077 404252 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: we have a joke esolang for that I reckon < 1378922086 18892 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? =) < 1378922088 574340 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i can bring up RealWorld if you want!!! < 1378922103 859542 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's called functional brainfuck, or something < 1378922354 793409 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1378922469 609439 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellonotone. < 1378922474 190661 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378922486 350618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Bike another bump? < 1378922486 533863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378922537 687135 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1378922564 420979 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks boily < 1378922566 147416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1378922571 773690 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks thanks < 1378922573 265258 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, thanks. Thanks. < 1378922588 295384 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks cat < 1378922589 854827 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, cat. That. < 1378922594 423343 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1378922595 506409 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378922595 889151 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1378922606 910381 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1378922608 406878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1378922616 825110 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, that was physical motion away from the network node (gasp) < 1378922620 151659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1378922621 763955 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1378922626 869050 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO LAMBDABOT I WILL NOT < 1378922631 786397 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-messages < 1378922631 931638 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1378922634 730495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1378922656 688810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tell us more about your relationship with lambdabot. < 1378922663 870281 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sits on the couch
< 1378922792 538408 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378922828 495086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives a bot plush to Bike
< 1378922838 50731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you point on the plush where lambdabot touched you? < 1378922929 406423 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378922968 140683 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, what shape has a bot?) < 1378923233 303390 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: My bots have a foot-like shape. < 1378923240 77523 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :More comfortable that wat < 1378923241 458448 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :way* < 1378923257 120106 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foots have many different shapes! < 1378923296 583580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you have any feet? < 1378923297 372555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm surprised i'm actually capable of keeping on a project together?' ' sub?' ' sub?' ' to crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and n different mutually incompatible macro systems available as separate modules. < 1378923317 404946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that was a bilingual pun. a horrible, terrible bilingual pun. < 1378923338 258304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conan, what's best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and n different mutually incompatible macro systems available as separate modules." I think that's from a movie. < 1378923372 389708 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't care < 1378923378 349508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "Conan, what's best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and n different mutually incompatible macro systems available as separate modules." I think that's from a movie. < 1378923382 996409 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1104) "Conan, what's best in life?" "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and n different mutually incompatible macro systems available as separate modules." I think that's from a movie. < 1378923410 672711 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, fungot. me too < 1378923410 960350 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i need to write your fingerprint as you have a function < 1378923453 393998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's surprisingly readable < 1378923457 284177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not sensible < 1378923469 143282 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1378923469 288556 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1378923479 752832 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. < 1378923533 578056 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? homestuck < 1378923535 863148 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck is a cult religion for disaffected teens. Gamzee drives the bus. Best summarized by http://www.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/05743.gif < 1378923540 813387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, anyone got advice? I'm trying to track down a bug in C-INTERCAL that happens consistently in one ick executable and not in another ick executable compiled from the same source < 1378923541 681639 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have just sat through a drawn out bbc news piece presenting the ~shocking fact~ that american hospitals have half the mortality rate of british ones < 1378923547 391883 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fucking apalling < 1378923557 156023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :symptoms are that the structure created by the parser doesn't match the parser's debug output, nor make any sense < 1378923561 794086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediately after the call to yyparse < 1378923626 12288 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the life expectancy in the UK is 2 years higher than that in the US was not mentioned < 1378923633 681398 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The New York patients had paid for treatment through private medical insurance and were therefore likely to be "wealthier and healthier", whereas the NHS patients were from all social classes» fascinating < 1378923661 629584 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the healthcare spending per capita in the UK was brought up, once, to an american who just responded "well is it really at the end of the day" < 1378923677 219116 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes, it is" < 1378923750 52080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference between the executables appears to be that instructions of the form "movl $0x8086b74,(%esp)" use different constants < 1378923764 212318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is to be expected if they compiled identically but linked differently < 1378923787 205426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: that's not quite a sentence < 1378923821 959142 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1378923826 432765 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is twice that of the US < 1378923830 865958 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :**half < 1378923832 899957 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck's sake < 1378923890 378762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if I can reproduce this in another directory tree, first < 1378923894 380819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can, I'll try with -pie < 1378923903 948648 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what you're talking about ais but it sounds gross so good luck < 1378923954 292890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping someone would have advice :( < 1378924008 420787 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, sounds like a nasty heisenbug < 1378924013 973795 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you introduce proto-indo-european to a compiler, you are doomed. < 1378924043 798674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: hmm… it seems the source is actually different, I just recursive-diffed < 1378924057 559043 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference being one declaration, where something is declared as an int not a bool < 1378924058 339914 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That helps, I guess < 1378924082 908058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could cause that sort of crazy corruption I'm seeing, if it's being called as an int but received as a bool or vice versa < 1378924138 303536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't help < 1378924252 520581 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378924314 247495 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378924344 185614 :zt!~chatzilla@p4FC11D0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378924670 561652 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do I do the dwarf fortress text-stream again < 1378924677 839210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember < 1378924685 384199 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1378924703 656216 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you used it to watch crawl or something < 1378924734 420255 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1378924778 48412 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it look anything like < 1378924788 626274 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :script -f >( cat ~/.ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) < 1378924805 11430 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1378924811 927831 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember something about rats < 1378924824 555167 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you mnoqy now how does that work < 1378924825 641949 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll also need a ~/.ratry_login of the form < 1378924828 925701 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378924829 375567 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello name password < 1378924858 358421 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where hello is hello, name is a name, and password is a password to be associated with that name < 1378924923 190084 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how do people watch? < 1378924929 883566 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once you have that you just run it and do stuff on your terminal and it will show up on termcast.org (accessible by `telnet termcast.org`) < 1378925066 969612 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: < 1378925067 565972 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44:10 who is Taneb < 1378925067 711115 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44:16 oh god DF < 1378925080 632482 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1378925085 368800 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, it works < 1378925189 422189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't perfected the transition from oka to TSO, and now that 0.13 is looming around I feel it's gonna be even more difficult because of the random crypt replacement. < 1378925194 144570 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: how big is your terminal? < 1378925201 267427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 by 26 I think < 1378925239 800170 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1378925425 264666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, people talking about termcast.org? < 1378925491 872202 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, watch me play Dwarf Fortress! < 1378925501 914881 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "is this new termcast from some secret channel" < 1378925514 510904 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not faaaaaaar off < 1378925528 497725 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I was thinking of adding termcast as an uncursed backend < 1378925848 345656 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna embark now < 1378926066 497520 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378926225 246983 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-203-57.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378926342 197879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, it's crashing in clang too < 1378926478 959092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, this happens even with the release tarball downloaded from overload.intercal.org.uk < 1378926507 87704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, could someone help me test this? download http://overload.intercal.org.uk/c/intercal-0.29.pax.gz , untar, configure, make check < 1378926510 941359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and let me know if the tests pass < 1378926676 160342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1378926714 825430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes. everything passes, and ends with «echo $?» equal to 0. < 1378926725 184569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, so it's something to do with my machine, I guess < 1378926761 542867 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on «gcc (GCC) 4.8.1 20130725 (prerelease)». < 1378926786 942538 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pax < 1378926787 444943 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pax definition: a tablet decorated with a sacred figure (as of Christ) and sometimes ceremonially kissed by participants at mass. < 1378926806 334212 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know the Christ could handle lossless compression... < 1378926830 543186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pax isn't a compression format, that's gz < 1378926833 317128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an archiving format < 1378926837 635538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, the POSIX standard format < 1378926842 847913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses it, which is why it's perfect for INTERCAL < 1378926849 241536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I've seen sightings of it in the wild on Mac) < 1378926879 52671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's forwards-compatible with tar, so any tar program can handle it fine < 1378926887 710229 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. it's the tar part that got substituted with a pax. < 1378926896 681292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason I could «tar xaf» the archive. < 1378926929 93223 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the a stand for? < 1378926942 208706 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-203-57.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378926987 989390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: automatic format detection. < 1378926996 946684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378927015 307950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know why bz2 is «j». < 1378927032 420477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me neither, but xz is probably J because of bz2 being j. < 1378927117 405849 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Julian Sweard would be my guess < 1378927123 696122 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seward < 1378927135 905723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oooooooh. < 1378927154 680238 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "xf" should work with a modern tar < 1378927156 326418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one of the few free letters, possibly. < 1378927174 500918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's... It's beautiful. What do you call it?" "Huh? Oh, I don't know. I'm not much of a flower... scientist...guy." --Advance Wars: Days of Ruin. (I've been reading LPs.) < 1378927288 825666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: too simple. tar has to keep its Mystic Aura intact. < 1378927332 682854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: clearly you have the better translation < 1378927335 646212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't remember that line < 1378927352 649707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the UK version, whose translation is inferior in almost every way, except CO names < 1378927355 75982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you remember: "Isabella, you're a person! A real living person with ideas and dreams and...and stuff like that!" < 1378927363 771024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: she wasn't called Isabella < 1378927384 153275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :she was called Catleia in the UK version, because they /did/ know what the flower was called in that verison < 1378927385 750950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*version < 1378927395 634769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's mentioned. < 1378927407 662207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No, I wait! I remember... This is a Cattleya isabella. It's a natural hybrid of the orchid family. Cattleya... Yes, that's it! That will be myname." < 1378927421 626127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck LP < 1378927422 142630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I will be named after this beautiful flower you brought me. My name is Cattleya!" < 1378927422 287856 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a long-playing phonograph record; designed to be played at 33.3 rpm. < 1378927428 789081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Uh...Cattelya? Wow, that's...that's uh... That's kind of hard to say, actually. How about we call you Isabella? That's really pretty. It fits you better." < 1378927431 578214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ofc, what she's called is different from her name; it's a plot point that she doesn't have a name) < 1378927493 241021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… this bug is 100% reproducible and consistent in its behaviour < 1378927508 646446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :next step, I guess: to get the parser to print out each expression it parsed immediately after parsing it < 1378927544 266498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which gcc are you using? < 1378927574 336975 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378927582 136136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc 4.7.3, also clang 3.2 < 1378927596 204781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's UB, it'd be most likely to act differently on the two compilers… < 1378927624 121331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily, ofc; UB can be tricky to pin down < 1378927640 343651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck UB < 1378927640 741307 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funkeys, a computer game for children Ugly Betty, an American dramedy series which sometimes uses the abbreviation. < 1378927643 51577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I just noticed that C-INTERCAL attempts to determine if passing _Bool through varargs (which is UB) works via experiment < 1378927667 757984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you expect ~duck to actually produce useful results for programming-specific acronyms, or are you just doing it for fun? < 1378927708 640733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UB = undefined behaviour < 1378927710 830473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use `? for that purpose < 1378927713 326471 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: both. < 1378927748 66077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/undefined_behaviour < 1378927757 733477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hoping for the day that ~duck will produce something relevant. as for now, I just contemplate the answers given. < 1378927771 649575 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it *really* not possible to define how _Bool works with varargs? < 1378927785 690888 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378927814 825000 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-203-57.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378927839 235440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well if you follow the usual definitions, you'd expect it not to work < 1378927848 92957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless sizeof _Bool happens to equal sizeof int, which it normally doesn't < 1378927884 702005 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378927908 406528 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378928017 812378 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378928074 786264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, if va_arg were implemented using sizeof, it wouldn't work correctly for anything smaller than an int < 1378928178 688311 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-203-57.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378928365 222004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of default integer promotion < 1378928456 785498 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn C < 1378928606 352104 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could go the other way and use a language that has no implicit casting whatsoever < 1378928804 469030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's default argument promotion; it involves more than just integers, after all. < 1378928852 595922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: or the other other way and have BCPL < 1378928860 734266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there's only one type, the n-bit value < 1378928865 609909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with a fixed n per BCPL compiler) < 1378928869 785933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess n would have to be 64 nowadays < 1378928932 364686 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378929142 391530 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378930030 493383 :manuelina!manuelina@net-93-148-133-143.cust.dsl.teletu.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1378930070 383498 :manuelina!manuelina@net-93-148-133-143.cust.dsl.teletu.it QUIT : < 1378930367 791630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1378930368 313594 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 112000Z 29010KT 12SM FEW030TCU SCT045 BKN120 BKN210 28/21 A2987 RMK TCU2SC1AC2CI2 CB EMBD SLP116 DENSITY ALT 1600FT < 1378930375 968584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ↑ ☺ < 1378930390 127463 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woooo < 1378930470 982241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://helloworldquiz.com/ < 1378930472 630251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice game < 1378930541 428786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without following the link, I'm guessing… a website that shows you hello worlds, and you have to guess the language? < 1378930549 287449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99bob would be more interesting, probably < 1378930562 31214 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that's it < 1378930744 914069 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably more interesting, but this is still fun ^^ < 1378930750 216125 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just saw Chef go by < 1378930891 901793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how some samples have subtle hints in them that have nothing at all to do with writing an idiomatic hello world. < 1378930895 528916 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378930912 555576 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. lua, which uses a superfluousitudinal comment to point to the fact that it is lua. < 1378930926 324531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 4 wrong answers < 1378930944 348715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's always 4 wrong answers < 1378930949 105533 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you have 4 lives =P < 1378930968 609639 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Some also use misdirection, which is fun! < 1378930982 234406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that I noticed, too. the scoundrels. < 1378930989 483428 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I thought I had 5 lives < 1378930989 954910 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the C one is technically also valid C++ =P < 1378931008 877598 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Huh. So you do. < 1378931012 262216 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder, then < 1378931025 428755 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since c++ was an option, you "know" that there will be another one with iostreams and "proper" c++isms < 1378931025 870422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any really-heavy-eso hello worlds in there? < 1378931029 149824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Malbolge? < 1378931033 431640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... think they draw from our Noble Wiki... < 1378931034 292376 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge is in there < 1378931037 534937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or BF disguised as Malbolge, you could probably get away with that < 1378931037 988694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chef too < 1378931046 210042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :chef, shakespeare, lolcode, omgrofl... < 1378931047 260231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the program were sufficiently long < 1378931049 618775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge, too. < 1378931052 174409 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lolcode < 1378931057 209709 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't see omgrofl =P < 1378931067 454442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whitespace program might be interesting for a quiz like that < 1378931079 746698 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when are lolcode and omgrofl really-heavy-eso < 1378931084 397934 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they just dumb syntax stuff < 1378931101 530694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are there to lure you in a sense of dull overconfidence. < 1378931126 144440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: they aren't < 1378931172 888579 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1378931191 634698 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378931198 174746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, make a brainfuck derivative quiz < 1378932107 331073 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378932345 509735 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378932379 498174 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1378933246 224805 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1378933765 715110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1378933800 122855 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378933885 594388 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378933908 332078 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378933930 958620 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/grab-a-vodka-and-calm-down-accommodation-meltdown-as-york-freshers-are-forced-offcampus-8809847.html < 1378933946 444504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are you going to York, by any chance? < 1378933948 857879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, are you one of them? < 1378933949 999034 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1378933959 993037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I've got a place to live < 1378933970 10525 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am one of the not very lucky but still lucky ones < 1378933990 88629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know someone in another channel who is still looking and I think is quoted in that article < 1378934143 861426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm off to bed < 1378934144 466156 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1378934218 480961 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378934818 251657 :tescott!~tescott@host-19-86-107-208.midco.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378934848 303842 :tescott!~tescott@host-19-86-107-208.midco.net PART :#esoteric < 1378935775 408718 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378935997 760689 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-252.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378936231 3177 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378936482 4392 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1378936562 905940 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378936911 285827 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378936922 758374 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-252.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378937120 291709 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-252.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1378937149 356931 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378937469 470475 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-252.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378937750 792622 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1378938290 732511 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378939103 834762 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh gosh, they were right < 1378939105 554519 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/new-york-times-provides-new-details-about-nsa-backdoor-in-crypto-spec/ < 1378939111 644212 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dual_EC_DBRG was in fact written by the NSA < 1378939149 30625 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge in finesse <-- i really hate these people < 1378939202 899325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1378939238 155224 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1378939248 439900 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how scheiener's blog post said he didn't see it being a backdoor because it was too obvious < 1378939253 46422 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just sounds moustache-twiddling < 1378939359 2365 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Green's post was strongly worded as he wrote, "the NSA has been doing some very bad things"» < 1378939395 896348 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah smash the state etc. < 1378939408 164226 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :naughty NSA. bad boy. bad < 1378939466 869065 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they're defending the united states's security by putting backdoors in its security standards. < 1378939484 654257 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, i mean. < 1378939488 240648 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty fucking dumb < 1378939503 679464 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd guess this one is Computationally Hard to reverse-engineer, at least? < 1378939515 213770 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah great. < 1378939534 329690 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the deal was it's easy to decrypt if you pick the parameters in a certain way and know how you picked them, or something < 1378939547 925155 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which they did, obviously < 1378939549 191584 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, like, if you knew the secret parameters < 1378939550 567840 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to predict the PRNG output if you know some numbers related to the parameters < 1378939551 922234 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy < 1378939555 288547 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but figuring out those is Hard? < 1378939558 459560 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, I see < 1378939561 796716 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're the NSA and already have them < 1378939563 413914 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378939567 786308 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, it's a backdoor that they're confident nobody else can get < 1378939572 225711 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a foreign intelligence agency that has the capability to get them. < 1378939574 109045 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone spies on them and steals them <.< < 1378939581 764263 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is Halite really 10 years old? < 1378939581 946089 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cos like... yeah. < 1378939621 561789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, but that articly only says that the NSA wrote the algorithm? not explicitly that they did put a back door in it? < 1378939630 995909 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article's oversimplifying. < 1378939661 100277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently they "generated one of the random number generators" < 1378939662 501596 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2007/11/securitymatters_1115 < 1378939673 427750 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the scheiner article i mentioned) < 1378939680 790634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random number generator generator < 1378939687 949085 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't understand why the NSA was so insistent about including Dual_EC_DRBG in the standard. It makes no sense as a trap door: It's public, and rather obvious." particularly < 1378939829 370751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a shitty prng too < 1378939835 591505 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very slow < 1378939836 804401 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that too < 1378939843 52167 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently vista adopted it at some point though?! < 1378940123 223419 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378940136 393448 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/12/dual_ec_drbg_ad.html oh, not actually doing anything directly. < 1378940155 520021 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You know what would be scary? If they secretly started using this algorithm even if you requested something else. Could anyone tell? What if they only pulled the switch under specific conditions (i.e. Chinese language versions)?" digging the comments < 1378940344 407891 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378940764 999081 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378941247 865987 :Elielson!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378941321 637142 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378941325 797037 :Elielson!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1378941402 21333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kyrie < 1378941411 766245 :Elielson!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1378941423 26098 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Elielson < 1378941425 480793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elielson: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1378941438 144248 :Elielson!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 NICK :Tayler < 1378941465 91786 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1378941509 719348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know that one i'm afraid < 1378941526 437838 :Tayler!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike < 1378941580 500867 :Tayler!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you afraid? < 1378941595 301768 :Tayler!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who one? < 1378941599 126712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "Lord of the Flies" was a freaky movie < 1378941720 946294 :Tayler!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see that < 1378941830 695644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Colorado, we don't need some New York billionaire telling us what size soft drinks we can have, how much salt to put on our food, or the size of the ammunition magazines on our guns" < 1378941834 714627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :america.gif < 1378942094 567159 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378942125 984201 :Tayler!elielsonro@189.98.156.221 PART :#esoteric < 1378942130 850350 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1378942136 565408 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378942145 294657 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378942794 123490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2013/09/nsa_surveillance_the_rest_of_the_snowden_files_should_be_destroyed.html bahahaha < 1378942811 889556 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The U.S. administration “has long been trying to play innocent victim of cyberattacks” but now turned out to be “the biggest villain,” said Xinhua, the state-run news agency. This argument, of course, is hypocrisy.» WOW HOW NOVEL < 1378942846 255351 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Finally, and perhaps most significantly, American and British Internet and telecommunication companies are under economic pressure, set to lose disgruntled customers at home and large contracts abroad.» somebody think of the megacorps < 1378942854 245231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slashdot.org/topic/bi/the-windows-flaw-that-cracks-amazon-web-services/ < 1378942862 797653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[spoiler: The flaw is physical access] < 1378942881 630021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not, the flaw is access to read and write to the entire volume on which the filesystem is sitting < 1378942895 231030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not physical access but is just as clearly capable of compromising a system < 1378942916 470381 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get that access without physical access? < 1378942939 405308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by asking to download a copy, or to upload a copy back again < 1378942957 771477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a perfectly normal operation to do when transferring the filesystem from one system to another < 1378942972 109413 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely the article tells you? < 1378942993 947793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, from what I gathered from the comments, the article is all talking about how insecure it all is < 1378943007 57680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without noticing that unlimited read/write access has a tendency to let you make arbitrary changes to something < 1378943064 219042 :lmt!~user_name@184.71.170.250 PART :#esoteric < 1378943094 715760 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pretty slashdotty :P < 1378943131 696974 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If 'blame Windows' is Slashdotty, then yes < 1378943149 302084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 'blame X' is Slashdotty for any OS X with market share >= BSD's < 1378943153 486425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including mobile OSes) < 1378943244 485548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"blame OS/2" < 1378943589 354959 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, poor choice of variables there < 1378943604 421173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: it's a famously poor choice of variable < 1378943611 217931 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's also a windowing system < 1378943620 862159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I didn't notice the accidental pun until you pointed it out < 1378943628 358882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually had to call something upsilon recently < 1378943640 873770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/really/ on the verge of running out of letters :( < 1378943650 480228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wanted to call something omicron just to see if I could, but LaTeX wouldn't let me) < 1378943844 890374 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it not let you < 1378944768 318113 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1378944804 257840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: there's no \omicron < 1378944813 361706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just typing an o would seem wrong < 1378944830 532915 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I could try to find one in Unicode, although LaTeX+Unicode is its own brand of "fun" < 1378944872 973557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the latex way that you just type an o < 1378944901 275842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but that's a different letter < 1378944904 395873 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1378944911 64578 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omega is literally greek for 'big o' < 1378944922 435308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1378944948 399645 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: and omicron is greek for 'small o' < 1378944958 267979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1378944961 347803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind = blown < 1378944962 178998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did I never notice this before now < 1378944968 837015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, an omicron looks enough like an o that if someone slipped one into the conversation, I wouldn't notice < 1378944988 583127 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah, although i thought 'big o' was more amusing < 1378944999 228426 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omega notation < 1378945021 852287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of these is an omicron: ooο < 1378945024 221147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess which one! < 1378945029 887489 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsο that sοunds like a great way of pοintlessly cοmplicating text < 1378945078 423278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I have enough of a programming mind to assume that an o and an ο can always be distinguished given enough effort < 1378945079 581113 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure they used that kind of tricks to prevent students from copying lines from the subject into our programs < 1378945085 131058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :οοοοοοοοοοοοοοοοοοοο < 1378945090 340568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooooooooo < 1378945097 492575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no visible difference in this font < 1378945106 549694 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a second there i thought ais was just really interested by something < 1378945109 607550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: why would thy want to prevent you doing that? < 1378945117 138781 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my font the difference is a 1px offset < 1378945122 799592 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they give you the prototype of a function with an extremely long name and a quintillion arguments, but no, you have to type it all by yourself because some of the letters aren't the letters you think and won't compile < 1378945131 937719 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do I know < 1378945144 442198 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggn. make a thing to normalise it < 1378945153 822137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: do you get the exercise as PDFs? it could just be an encoding issue in LaTeX < 1378945162 779722 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1378945164 496111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happened all the time with the exercises my predecessors gave the students < 1378945174 50991 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to learn latex :( < 1378945174 223075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it inserting spaces into identifiers was even more of a problem < 1378945182 373157 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggn. add. use ocr for this purpose < 1378945213 203847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in LyX, it seems to be fixable via a) telling it to turn off fontenc, and b) repeatedly setting the language to "reset" even though you never changed it < 1378945335 949642 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apropopos of nothing, i saw this story on /r/math about a guy who was trying to remove all the formatting stuff from a latex document < 1378945341 776095 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he googled 'latex stripper' < 1378945347 70269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1378945356 974531 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1378945360 11372 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the best part was, the results were what he was looking for < 1378945361 220652 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1378945379 345700 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you just tricking us into googling it < 1378945383 741731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have had safesearch on? < 1378945389 567908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have been very strongly bubbled < 1378945398 719683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also only one result would need to be correct for it to be useful < 1378945447 427776 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just googled it < 1378945461 621956 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first two results are about... stripping latex paint from wood < 1378945471 393482 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next five are all exactly what you'd expect < 1378945490 159374 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@google latex stripper < 1378945493 183559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google latex stripper < 1378945495 375476 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://toolmonger.com/2009/09/25/reader-question-stripping-latex-paint/ < 1378945495 520841 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Reader Question: Stripping Latex Paint | Toolmonger < 1378945514 605347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what I'd expect < 1378945517 552029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially given the context < 1378945541 94720 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people stripping < 1378945544 334337 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whilst wearing latex < 1378945590 447044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1378945593 109797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably expect feminine people < 1378945597 510617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that was a strong possibility < 1378945635 799390 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about people stripping from wearing latex??????how about it < 1378945713 188277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this sort of thing is why Ubuntu use adjective animals for their version name < 1378945720 979870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that there's at least a chance of being able to websearch them < 1378945818 268123 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :os x does that as well < 1378945853 67169 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we be afraid of finding articles about houses with eight windows? < 1378945950 430709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well those are probably more worksafe than latex strippers < 1378946008 20046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :latew strippers make up a good story < 1378946035 356410 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a good cover story if you get caught looking for porn < 1378946117 623026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot < 1378946615 286574 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so good if you're not into latex < 1378946617 56212 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or strippers < 1378946753 853637 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously considered writing verilog macrology to turn truth tables into PoS for me. apparently verilog macros suck < 1378946774 242279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does PoS stand for there? < 1378946777 497545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :product of sums < 1378946778 763025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I recommend a code generator < 1378946782 602435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i wrote one < 1378946785 195538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still annoying < 1378946794 69981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why that way round? sum of products is more common < 1378946800 324514 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's homework. < 1378946803 327937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's where the upsilon came from, actually) < 1378946811 95292 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you turn truth tables into PoS using any other programming language than verilog macros? < 1378946816 41729 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. that is what i did. < 1378946835 283294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could use a K-map < 1378946841 104641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, semirelated, why do ctrl-c/v and ctrl/shift-insert use different clipboards, and how do i not... how do i fix this < 1378946843 169744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what they were invented for < 1378946850 301200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: literally have to write out a pos expression. < 1378946861 489001 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"piece of shit" is running through my mind, i assure you. < 1378946899 821989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to find some way to interpret it as "point of sale" < 1378946901 407568 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose in x they're probably called "buffers" or "rings" or something else weird < 1378946921 725688 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a truth table is trivially converted into a sum of products, and then you just have to factor that product < 1378946922 585064 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's just urxvt. anyway, ugh < 1378946933 534643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen i know how to do this. i'm just complaining because it's really dull < 1378946959 932116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: X actually has like 10 clipboards < 1378946960 435757 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that always possible?) < 1378946963 774020 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1378946968 770735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but two of them are the most commonly used < 1378946979 86170 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that for some kind of "logic class"? < 1378946982 178070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that copy-paste is meant to use (PRIMARY), and a temporary one that exists whenever you select anything < 1378946985 394385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want to be able to paste from emacs to xilinx. < 1378947003 58476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: circuit design. i already took intro logic and got pissed off at truth tables there < 1378947013 703235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if it's an old or misconfigured Emacs, you'll have to choose copy from the menus < 1378947014 9429 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1378947021 544560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than using any of Emacs' copy-like keyboard inputs < 1378947035 198549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think it's urxvt, i'm using ctrl-insert for copy and it works between terms but not into something modern < 1378947035 343906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's very old, the only way I found to do it involved some custom elisp < 1378947042 161650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I only got it working like 50% of the time < 1378947052 971743 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate computers. < 1378947067 377112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll just write it all into a file because you know what? fuck. fuck < 1378947119 43333 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I took intro logic and got into an argument with the teacher because in my opinion she was trying to teach the students that the most obvious, basic common sense was not at all obvious but rather some kind of dull boolean arithmetic with complicated laws < 1378947130 203297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we go, possibly the first elisp I ever wrote: http://sprunge.us/ebPQ < 1378947133 58686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was on SunOS < 1378947145 206779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where my first esolanging also took place < 1378947145 900607 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: my professor got fired. < 1378947151 592452 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1378947176 339573 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about the Aristotle/Boole thing? < 1378947181 82900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That annoyed some of my CSy friends. < 1378947242 912724 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh there kind of are complicated laws? Like, de morgan's is pretty easy but i wouldn't call it "common sense" exactly < 1378947252 209252 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :de morgan's are*, whatever < 1378947266 660928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I was struggling with this literally last night < 1378947272 44474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppose you have a boolean expression < 1378947283 635938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to determine if it's a contradiction or not entirely using rewrite rules < 1378947287 432112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they can only apply at the top level < 1378947308 296384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you want to keep the set reasonably small (not necessarily golfed, but not with very large or unreadable rules) < 1378947316 446690 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm that does sound annoying < 1378947321 549299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and this is a proper parse tree with binary and and or < 1378947326 846356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no n-ary versions < 1378947339 32778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end, I found a way to avoid having to solve the problem < 1378947349 941265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the spirit! < 1378947360 940663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because it felt a lot like esolang design, and it was an inappropriate venue for that < 1378947376 193924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :partly because I'm almost convinced that the simplest solution is unexpectedly complex < 1378947422 438558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reminds me of when Snowflake had two stack manip instructions: one which rotated or unrotated the top three elements < 1378947429 364021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one which moved the top stack element to the bottom, or vice versa < 1378947438 866940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this turns out to not be enough to implement swap < 1378947456 335489 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wish that i could turn in my generator with the assignment, oh well. < 1378947459 487377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I later removed the second of those instructions to make programming in it more interesting, because it turned out not to be needed for anything I wanted to do) < 1378948040 671897 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i generated some pices of shot. good enough for me < 1378948169 27752 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is de morgan's the thing with not(a and b) = (not a) or (not b)? < 1378948190 411373 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just common sense, yes < 1378948225 938801 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and" and "or" make sense not just as truth tables but because they actually mean something < 1378948293 506293 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not common sense in that you don't generally have to teach it. < 1378948340 952245 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I don't believe you should have to teach that as some theorem < 1378948353 669234 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be taught as axiomatic? < 1378948361 58068 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1378948376 65041 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as "think about it, that's logic and it makes sense and you can figure it out yourself" < 1378948394 126278 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realise humans are kind of awful at thinking logically? < 1378948404 407125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why we invent formal systems, with rules, that you can teach people, and prove things with. < 1378948422 874260 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's scary and sad < 1378948435 161749 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we don't have to appeal to some common sense that isn't really all that common -- for instance, in natural language "or" often means something closer to "xor" < 1378948459 863936 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and logical implication and "if ..., then ..." have a very tricky and unclear relationship, lots of arguments about the best way to model it < 1378948469 567647 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only scary if you expected people to think like this logical system you dreamed up. < 1378948488 38578 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "a or b" always means "a or b", but sometimes the context has an implicit "if you pick a you won't get a chance to pick b" < 1378948498 196012 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really think it's scary, I just think you're being a bit arrogant about the material :P even if it's intuitively obvious when stated as an English sentence, that doesn't mean it's not important to teach in a formal context < 1378948501 160882 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, it doesn't always mean "a or b". < 1378948504 477336 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what you just said. < 1378948519 705915 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not saying formal is useless, far from it < 1378948552 930332 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what I just said is that the only difference between formal and everyday is that everyday has implicit stuff < 1378948570 622373 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of a huge difference? < 1378948589 282573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: writing mathematical papers in English is a pain < 1378948594 802864 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so big; you could formalize everyday by explicitating the implicit thing < 1378948594 947908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I have to spell out which is meant every time I use "or" < 1378948603 612238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my supervisor apparently doesn't understand "and/or" < 1378948617 176769 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I abhor and/or < 1378948622 933069 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case you show that spoken "a or b" means formal "a xor b", apparently? < 1378948642 367247 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: spoken "a or b" doesn't necessarily means formal "a xor b" Bike < 1378948653 867506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it does, but not always < 1378948658 402803 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost like there's no simple mapping to formal concepts < 1378948677 597368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slightly bitter about this general idea for other reasons. i apologize.
< 1378948677 933309 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there is you just need to figure out what was implicitly assumed < 1378948685 935281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't simple. < 1378948696 712054 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you've managed to survive life for so long < 1378948703 150628 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so apparently it's not so difficult < 1378948709 675935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1378948717 977786 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life doesn't have these formal concepts in it, usually. < 1378948735 863971 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everyday life has everyday concepts surely < 1378948736 943572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're a bit confused as to what the point of formal logic is :/ < 1378948752 187038 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it has everyday concepts. < 1378948762 951603 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the teacher isn't really telling you about de Morgan's laws so you can use them in everyday reasoning where you wouldn't be able to before. < 1378948764 608570 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deal with everyday concepts without thinking of formal xor at all, generally. < 1378948768 482132 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well I'm not denying formal logic may have a point but formal logic as it is taught at our university surely fails to make its point < 1378948772 525974 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it's never come up. < 1378948784 855850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there was a shop (sadly, now closed) on the way to the University which advertised with contrapositives < 1378948794 42561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can't buy a bed today, you are not in Beds Directs! < 1378948796 533556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Beds Direct < 1378948807 665688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how effective it was < 1378948813 211624 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw Bike you're a biologist right < 1378948823 580756 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who would win in a fight, a pistol shrimp or a mantis shrimp < 1378948827 422998 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to elliott, and elliott is basically god, so yes < 1378948871 803599 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't know most of their behavior off the top of my head, but pistol shrimp usually deal with shelled prey, don't they? maybe they wouldn't work so well on something soft < 1378948885 894186 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mantis shrimps have shells don't they < 1378948920 427803 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know! < 1378948931 772645 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking useless < 1378948940 639035 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask someone who does!! < 1378948941 559296 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bite me motherfucker < 1378948964 840792 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you two about to make out < 1378948977 237805 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't homestuck you shipping weirdo < 1378948978 308722 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're about to penis fence, as is traditional for biologists < 1378948987 347423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i can't optimize this expression well ugh i'm incompetent < 1378948998 822624 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shit programmer and a shit biologist < 1378948998 986034 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expression? < 1378949004 750547 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :waaaah you're mean < 1378949014 423786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, there's chemistry here! < 1378949019 348352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does shipping work on real-life people? < 1378949020 151197 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of the biology and programming < 1378949029 494076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~(C+D)(A^B))|(~(CD)(A^B)) < 1378949034 677634 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something obvious but i can't think of it. < 1378949046 985664 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, they made quite a business of it back in the 18th century < 1378949055 496981 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference between C+D and CD? < 1378949058 391677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: factor out the A xor Bs < 1378949059 767543 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1378949062 815011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: or versus and < 1378949065 359179 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :C|D and C*D if you want < 1378949067 327340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. but what's |? < 1378949069 910396 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1378949072 14649 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1378949073 417909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, are | and + both or? < 1378949075 225086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow factoring yes < 1378949078 864196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder people are confused < 1378949082 941905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cf incompetence :( < 1378949087 804112 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought + was xor < 1378949092 491610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought ^ was xor < 1378949094 564064 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's + with a circle < 1378949097 767717 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ is xor you know what never mind < 1378949102 636210 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ABCD aren't booleans and it's bitwise or vs. addition! < 1378949109 799735 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : thought ^ was and < 1378949111 565999 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike just said "expression". < 1378949116 480113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case I insist on interpreting it as OIL < 1378949118 616479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the ones making assumptions here! < 1378949120 963957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i meant lie groups < 1378949122 38324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!! < 1378949128 287481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my circuit design class. < 1378949128 432771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case, err, it's pretty much what elliott suggested, just with more syntax errors < 1378949150 337340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: fix your operand names < 1378949151 180367 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something beautiful about using concatenation for multiplication at the same time as bitwise operators. < 1378949156 609816 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1378949163 488306 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is (~(C+D))|(~(C|D)) just ~(C+D)? < 1378949174 556256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one or the other < 1378949179 452862 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry < 1378949183 754995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too jaded to work out which, because I was doing that all night < 1378949187 829707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except with \oplus and \odot < 1378949200 164798 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant like isn't it the same unless I'm just reading it wrong or something < 1378949209 210828 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote it wrong < 1378949230 990594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I tried to parse your line as a haiku, because of the spaces < 1378949232 487596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't < 1378949244 689414 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? @_@ < 1378949253 260647 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughed irl at that < 1378949280 932522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well when you see three shortish phrases < 1378949282 549128 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does make a good poem < 1378949283 402989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are separated < 1378949298 588705 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1378949309 87764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also to be a proper haiku, as well as being 5/7/5, it'd also need to mention a season somewhere < 1378949328 560206 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote beautiful summer < 1378949330 740776 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :433) beautiful summer / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck / fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck \ 1038) beautiful summer / massacres in qusayr / sent from my iphone < 1378949343 665426 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1378949343 810800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, we have two now? < 1378949346 316729 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I completely forget the context to 1038. < 1378949348 778886 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote snowman without snow < 1378949350 335471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378949352 449725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1378949358 965694 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1378949360 805270 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378949361 996994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I like the last line of that second haiku < 1378949363 298408 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit. < 1378949364 640907 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote snowman < 1378949366 188713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1378949366 910947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the first one too, but I've seen it before < 1378949372 560816 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh /shit/ < 1378949382 66159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog snowman without snow < 1378949400 197829 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: i think i got it down to (A^B)CD. now going to check the truth table because god i'm a failure < 1378949408 979104 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that won't work. < 1378949411 735772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there we go < 1378949411 936225 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-01-30.txt:16:20:30: And the nicely zen U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW. < 1378949427 760995 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe it's or < 1378949430 333890 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was ~(C+D) | (A^B) or is that the same thing < 1378949439 271505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah it's different < 1378949440 529692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, esolangs.org game: keep clicking random, count how many BF derivatives you find before you reach a language you created < 1378949449 789230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're depressed by the result, create a language to improve your chances < 1378949469 319062 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that only works even vaguely well if you've created a billion languages < 1378949472 595044 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I probably should have just used a kmap. < 1378949481 599367 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if one of your languages IS a bf derivative.... < 1378949488 962952 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what if you find a BF derivatives *you created* < 1378949496 583309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fuck me < 1378949497 383808 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what if mnoqy just said that < 1378949514 450403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if I find reversible BF or The Language That Cannot BE Spelled, I'll let you know < 1378949520 161242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or dofuck, but I'm not sure if that's on the wiki yet < 1378949534 172266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I just hit () twice in a row < 1378949534 317555 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit your own BF derivative you finish your drink < 1378949543 475029 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the thing is, i'm afraid playing your game will only result in more bf derivatives being created < 1378949558 513347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I just hit zzo38's BF derivative < 1378949569 915938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: OK, if you hit your own BF derivative, you have to keep going < 1378949577 189041 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1378949577 880757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus making it impossible to create BF derivatives to escape the cycle < 1378949594 872586 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm pretty sure creating a a language diminishes your chances < 1378949596 249207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i haven't made any languages... do i just keep going forever < 1378949604 5767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 so far < 1378949610 21038 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i going to die. tell it to me straight doc < 1378949611 708698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you make one, it's the only way to escape < 1378949615 714995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well low scores are good < 1378949628 687001 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now hum I meant the score will get higher < 1378949633 17326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, StateFlip; that's /based/ on one of mine < 1378949643 504882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's promising < 1378949664 140750 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a 2-dimensional brainfuck derivative with booleans instead of chars? < 1378949667 380903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, 5 now, and that's the same as last time < 1378949677 609500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, it's a BackFlip derivative, and has nothing to do with BF < 1378949693 270659 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i make brainfuck derivatives to worsen everyone else's scores < 1378949694 683363 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :***B***ack***F***lip < 1378949696 309536 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we count Schrodilang? It /might/ be a BF derivative < 1378949696 542115 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again < 1378949701 395716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you'll worsen your own more < 1378949709 284619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have more languages than, say, me or cpressey < 1378949709 986149 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus i started with the wrong sum of products < 1378949719 977479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty soon i'm going to find that i accidentally proved zfc consistent. < 1378949722 988574 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I tried playing < 1378949727 253735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, 6 now < 1378949739 704263 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I just realize it's possible you find a page that's neither a bf derivative nor a language you created < 1378949752 806748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, BF derivative derivative derivative < 1378949758 396316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this count or not? < 1378949767 205808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I have to go to 7, even if it /is/ by cpressey < 1378949785 650807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most of them aren't BF derivatives < 1378949791 370697 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i just went through like 5 pages without hitting a bf derivative, I think that's a record? < 1378949807 317988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I often manage more than that < 1378949810 531548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to 8 now though :( < 1378949839 337180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9, and a particularly bad example < 1378949864 116177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I just realised I have 3 BF derivatives < 1378949874 479145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one of them was linked from the page I was just on (which isn't a language, so it didn't increase my score) < 1378949904 714438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm not sure whether x-D counts < 1378949927 489881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't claim to be a BF derivative, nor does it particularly look like a BF deriv page < 1378949948 91995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it isn't < 1378949957 927025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tape < 1378949965 49458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it looks like it embeds BF's commands, that's all < 1378949970 254229 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm already at 10 bf derivatives, and in case of doubt I didn't count the languages as bf derivatives < 1378949978 405996 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it need to have a tape to be a bf deriv < 1378949978 551634 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and haven't found a language of mine yet < 1378949988 532298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 too < 1378949999 6885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: it has to have some strong similarity < 1378950010 784629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't have a tape, it's not a BF deriv unless its instructions are clearly based on BF's < 1378950024 529712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, oklopol brings me to 11 < 1378950030 673742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's depressing how many of these are by channel regulars < 1378950060 164918 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1378950068 94469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1378950076 159145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a page about two of my languages, neither of which are BF derivs < 1378950080 774026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a language page itself < 1378950084 122165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't count :( < 1378950144 825069 :Phantom__Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378950148 648614 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just hit 20 bf derivatives and still no sign of myself < 1378950156 132335 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I did hit some pages four times < 1378950237 803667 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm depressed by the result but I'm gonna go to bed rather than create a language < 1378950309 115603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm on 20 < 1378950314 928260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hit () a lot? < 1378950325 790211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MediaWiki's Special:Random is a little weirdly distributed < 1378950329 88517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prefers some pages to others < 1378950420 485905 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't hit () at all < 1378950422 116301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, after 24, I hit C-INTERCAL < 1378950433 730600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm tempted to count that, given the circumstances < 1378950436 571301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I'll keep going anyway < 1378950453 164297 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hit C-Intercal but I think countint it would be more than bending the rules < 1378950473 239638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well you haven't invented many of the commands and maintained the interp < 1378950480 959700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah, it clearly doesn't count for /you/ :) < 1378950485 201696 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I have never written a single line of program in intercal and don't even know what that would look like < 1378950508 738380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I get to not count 2D BF because it's a page talking about BF derivs < 1378950512 791794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than a BF deriv in its own right < 1378950536 242255 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was tempted not to count it but I had lost count anyway < 1378950556 881949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now Backtracking INTERCAL, which I wrote the first impl of < 1378950584 478368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know what's up with http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=%E2%99%A6 ? < 1378950620 763528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :30… < 1378950632 730798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously thought it'd be much lower than that < 1378950639 594556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there are a /lot/ of BF derivs out there < 1378950657 501963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1378950671 585146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378950712 841125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see the talk page, if you want to be even more confused < 1378950722 804092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it cleared things up for me < 1378950728 397019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes irritatedly that xnor(a,b,c) != xnor(xnor(a,b),c)
< 1378950772 455111 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that associativity? i'm too hungry to think about it < 1378950796 414601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now 40 < 1378950813 477172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, not associative < 1378950851 791357 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any good way to write xnor(a,b,c) with binary operator < 1378950852 445715 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1378950854 904888 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is there a standard definition for n-ary nxor? < 1378950869 866506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they're all the same" is what i'm using < 1378950870 993367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentally < 1378950883 503257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1378950903 142854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(¬a&¬b&¬c)|(a&b&c) if you like, i guess < 1378950907 729384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i'll write that. sux < 1378950909 342015 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah == cannot be chained in C < 1378950951 446371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, can I please count Radixal!!!!? < 1378950956 799413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1378950962 264380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case I score 45 < 1378950963 731227 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.project-veripage.com/pmd.php oh god < 1378950964 891625 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1378950981 502015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My simulator does not support Parameterized Macro Definition." why is this a property of the simulator < 1378950984 777546 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh fuck it i'm getting food < 1378951129 577206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only scored 9 that time < 1378951154 271928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, I hit a language which I worked out the details and wrote the spec for, but wasn't simply mine < 1378951179 367297 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such a language could be a bf derivative < 1378951247 41020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quiler isn't < 1378951272 955033 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I can't think of simpler than (¬a&¬b&¬c)|(a&b&c) right now < 1378951275 424468 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooo off to bed < 1378951277 289599 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1378951278 702501 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378951332 38513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I was just at 1 before I hit http://esolangs.org/wiki/Index.php < 1378951346 703167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, not a language < 1378951390 329004 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378951524 728596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that was quick < 1378951550 982075 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sleep fast < 1378951568 470979 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I realized someone highlighted me just before I quit < 1378951570 916044 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I came back < 1378951584 41748 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm gonna quit again soon I promise < 1378951612 731491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, conclusions: if you want to do well at this, be either zzo38 or cpressey < 1378951663 86338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'd do better even if I were whatever ihope127's current nick is < 1378951732 78039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even Ngved would be beating me on these pages :( < 1378951763 497945 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1378951810 302034 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think David/werecatt would do ok < 1378951861 990507 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay quitting again < 1378951867 331957 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1378951867 477227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, he's doing well on the Special:Random favoured pages < 1378951873 730555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you go reroll Special:Random? thx < 1378951910 71737 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tomorrow -> < 1378952013 268156 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate but thingis are still terrible < 1378952079 205452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, more than half of these miscapitalize brainfuck < 1378952107 861300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, 18 this time < 1378952109 689203 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hit Black < 1378952121 202134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I like and am disappointed that it didn't get more attention < 1378952126 893093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to BackFlip < 1378952138 451940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there are a /lot/ of BF derivs out there < 1378952150 700018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't understand just how bad the problem was :( < 1378952934 920311 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1378953595 231828 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1378954047 404123 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378959170 929370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The FUDGE < 1378959187 193233 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my MIDIs have metadata such that Foobar2000 was actually able to give it a name < 1378959192 430463 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one of my MIDIs < 1378959491 888510 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a 47 minute long MIDI file < 1378959778 694692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is there any reason to dislike BASSMIDI? < 1378959814 948312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, wait, I thought BASSMIDI was a thing that can be used to use soundfonts < 1378960185 274483 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1378960569 923768 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/390156_187967128007447_1121325559_n.png i love hackers < 1378963667 590306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're so easy? < 1378963693 911156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is a very impressive logo.) < 1378963708 661806 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :syrianandproudtobe. weloveourleader. security. lions. < 1378965192 51112 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378965584 850715 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378965832 113887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1378966146 170471 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378966263 627513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today at work we ate an unusual cake https://twitter.com/LostOracle/status/377879038498324480/photo/1 < 1378966279 528813 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more congratulations!! < 1378966282 149338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1378966287 322896 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378966370 666190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the acid is what makes you see that background pattern, right? < 1378966464 706469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :little Servo is growing up so fast < 1378966575 44072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1378966594 239407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even make any #drugzjokes! < 1378966632 605742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next you'll tell me there were none in the cake either < 1378966856 807491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily so, from mathematics "S" is evil, but from programming it's just plain old print. <-- nah S is simple to handle mathematically, see http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#Rewriting_semantics < 1378966856 952573 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378967021 406842 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1378967196 914101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an incredibly nonsensical computer-security news item from the local public broadcasting company, but it's unfortunately in Finnish, so you perhaps can't quite appreciate it. < 1378967200 994456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paraphrasing, it says (among other things): "Normally, data is stored securely by collecting so much superfluous material around it that the actual information is obscured by the unnecessary information. This is called a firewall. By reducing the mass of information a small part at a time, a hacker can access the secured information no matter how good the firewall is, as long as he has sufficient resources." < 1378967228 421806 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the local breakdancing company < 1378967274 187168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/D2VT26 -- it really doesn't make any more sense before the translation either. < 1378967323 410344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, the "new system" description manages to be perhaps one additional step of incoherent after Google Translate has had its fun.) < 1378967776 727174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the /// page already had the proper CSS < 1378967797 970302 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378968055 230252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: S is easy, it's just annoying to deal with < 1378968090 464918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott Does removing white-space: pre-wrap from the /// quine make it look worse to others? < 1378968090 650103 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1378968760 27015 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Fixed that for you http://heh.fi/tmp/cake.jpeg < 1378968831 228469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you handle S purely in the original implementation? < 1378969002 631742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original impl was rewriting < 1378969009 508144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it handled everything impurely ;) < 1378969030 941896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ais523 -----###
< 1378969034 182306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most more advanced impls I've been involved with used a sidechannel for S data < 1378970218 576381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: seriously, though, I have no idea what you mean by the question < 1378970256 58394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i consider rewriting to be pure < 1378970280 383704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda calculus is a rewriting language, after all < 1378970349 150295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess i'm asking if your implementation calculated an equivalent form of the program that still included the output < 1378971870 599694 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1378972410 68892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you have to be careful of programs like (x)S(:^):^ < 1378972422 537246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which should produce output before the infinite loop happens < 1378972509 907676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is similar to weak head normal in lc and haskell < 1378972516 117089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*normal form < 1378972519 688518 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378972751 410976 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does that new system work? < 1378972772 275470 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In the size of the terminal from which the information is to fade from view by hackers. Security is cancellable only within the same system, and the non-protected data appears to be a wonder-ful As a paste." < 1378973086 834504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have absolutely no idea how it works, about all I can do is to provide an arguably more accurate translation. < 1378973090 600819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "The new Unisys system works using an entirely different principle. In it, the entire device storing the information is hidden from the view of hackers. The protection can only be decrypted from within the same system, and for outside observers the information will appear as a nonsensical mess. This is possible because the information is encrypted in an earlier stage, before the IP address has been formed." < 1378973096 597124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hth" < 1378973124 949144 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks yle < 1378973129 277273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, yle. Thyle. < 1378973143 388476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ei saa peittää < 1378973199 261337 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so the translation wasn't that bad after all < 1378973225 595611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful as a paste = nonsensical mess < 1378973331 280674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the word "ihmeellinen" -- it has senses "wonderful, extraordinary" and "strange, weird, odd, curious". < 1378973341 402315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The use is more of the latter, but the translation has picked the former. < 1378973389 422848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were often historically conflated in English too < 1378973427 642847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can still get something of the duality in words like "astonishing" < 1378973427 787826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how awful < 1378973519 412788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The actual press release related to the article is pretty much equally content-free, but doesn't have the utterly nonsensical bits about firewalls. < 1378973522 431760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit about "encrypted in an earlier stage, before the IP address has been formed" seems to mean that it works on OSI layer 2, and the bit about "hiding the device" and being accessible only "within the same system" seems to say the data is stored on something that's not as easily connectable from the public interwebs. < 1378976510 965952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit the hello word quiz gave me BEGIN { print "Hello, world!" } < 1378976519 797126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a choice between awk and perl... < 1378976534 342549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lots of people have complained about that one < 1378976537 46801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then claims it's awk, but it _works_ in perl. < 1378976546 918432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, it's correct in both, but hardly idiomatic in Perl < 1378976567 583192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true but i don't think all the others are idiomatic either... < 1378976576 798469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, the BEGIN seems useful for distinguishing Perl from other languages… < 1378976598 482464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _knew_ both awk and perl had it, of course. < 1378976613 109379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i was not sure if awk had straight up print. < 1378976655 205041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i shouldn't complain too much, this quiz has gone surprisingly well. although a lot of elimination rather than actually knowing the answer. < 1378976661 657911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to 1 life now. < 1378976738 458067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh poiuy_qwert has a program. where is he these days... < 1378976826 841999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there was also the ?- write('Hello world!'), nl. < 1378976861 988735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which a choice between prolog and something else. now i'm getting it _again_, but without what was the right answer the last time D: < 1378976884 613586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it accepted prolog. < 1378976911 451341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i got wrong with afair the _same_ program last time < 1378976922 875318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's some OO prolog variant < 1378976941 589121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :logtalk, i think it was the last time. < 1378976947 730870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, should be :- not ?- for regular Prolog < 1378976960 929116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that means the last one was _wrong_. < 1378976976 309587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm not sure of that, isn't it ?- in the repl < 1378976987 957976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although you don't actually _type_ that, then.) < 1378977034 394163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it finished. < 1378977035 482812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's ?- in the repl < 1378977043 624809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be :- to run it at program load in regular Prolog < 1378977053 446316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unless you run /something/ at program load, the program won't do anything at all < 1378977071 450179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the REPL is regular < 1378977075 734612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if i got the last one there, since i got no message that i was wrong. < 1378977083 790291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5900 score) < 1378977164 282941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the highest score is 6300, which seems to correspond to my 4 errors. < 1378979476 607049 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378979887 525380 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378980633 364905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this turns out to not be enough to implement swap <-- only even permutations, i think. < 1378980659 282642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while swap is an odd one. < 1378980684 934426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1378980686 530429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realised that < 1378981110 765122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1378981992 543182 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1378982265 840662 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1378982362 206068 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378982583 131040 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1378982608 548949 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you sure the wrapping worked for the dupdog hello world program? < 1378982639 976276 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a VERY long line, with a horizontal scrolling bar to read it all < 1378983400 191616 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378983794 851715 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1378983818 215321 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378983931 365230 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Client Quit < 1378983946 120315 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378984875 109782 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378984987 187139 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1378985891 617093 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378986938 188755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1378987341 350572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378988394 173807 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378988589 584848 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378988878 861291 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1378988880 405301 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378988895 121605 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378989138 665937 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378989325 98355 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378989737 128700 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378990603 716327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378990751 569302 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378991282 610467 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378992296 346394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://pastebin.ca/2448959 < 1378993675 111725 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378993985 305218 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994117 55226 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378994131 342245 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994514 288356 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994519 297128 :nooodl__!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994519 442299 :nooodl_!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994556 807192 :nooodl_!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378994558 199257 :nooodl__!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378994696 129966 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1378994716 385833 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1378994718 579948 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994786 34317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1378994927 509193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1378994951 330753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1378995008 351331 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1378995034 724374 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378995205 536304 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1378995826 452049 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1378996823 803080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's dmesg: < 1378996825 209929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[429774.676809] Uhhuh. NMI received for unknown reason 2c on CPU 0. < 1378996825 355489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[429774.676812] Do you have a strange power saving mode enabled? < 1378996825 355630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[429774.676812] Dazed and confused, but trying to continue < 1378996859 932029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it when they antormo.. antrohm.. ant.. arothmorphise things. < 1378996942 543144 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"assign human attributes" aha < 1378997062 233892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn arothmorphise ... antormo... antrohm... ant... oh bugger. This should go in the `misspellings of antrhrop... atnhro...' entry. < 1378997068 212171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1378998318 451320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't look at dmesg often enough to notice weird messages when they come up < 1378998389 125068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, something's trying to connect inbound on ports 443 and 6667 < 1378998391 707759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :through a NAT, somehow < 1378998464 137227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even sure how you tunnel a port 443 connection through a NAT < 1378998471 765749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6667 is almost believable on the basis that I'm on IRC atm < 1378998832 2644 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you try 443? aren't there other easier methods to exploit? < 1378999084 661641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1378999084 846355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is me noticing what inbound stuff the firewall is blocking < 1378999098 851151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more interested in how they got to 443 past a NATty wireless router < 1378999100 338996 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@c211-30-196-14.artrmn3.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1378999117 295505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have been pronomically clearer. s/you/one/. < 1378999229 706141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's approximately as exploitable as 80? < 1378999319 654583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? wouldn't you have to circumvent encryption to get to the juicy packet details? (fyi, ianac.) < 1378999363 271151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ianac: I am not a cracker. hth.) < 1378999369 252739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aren't you /sending/ the packet? < 1378999390 904722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to circumvent the encryption because you're one of the parties who has the key < 1378999404 732559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. iranac. < 1378999411 584658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it could just be going on the basis of "443 is rarely firewalled" < 1378999418 688891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact. < 1378999421 375054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people often run random things on 443 to get round firewalls < 1378999429 143997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's trying to exploit one of those < 1379000751 218095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan looks the same to me < 1379000751 363294 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379001492 429309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379001554 253867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I got it written on console by syslogd, apparently the priority was high enough. < 1379001568 438648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems quite high-priority < 1379001666 114437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Emergencies are sent to everybody logged in. < 1379001668 477696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.emerg :omusrmsg:* < 1379001686 3199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might have even been that, since I don't see much else in the syslog config that'd come in as a message like that. < 1379001719 353925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To correct myself, it wasn't written on console, it was a 'write'-style message.) < 1379002001 822561 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379002046 724828 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, I'm wondering if anyone has any tips on how to comparitives/conditionals in bf? < 1379002115 255400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi denzuko < 1379002132 338365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea behind conditionals is you have some cell on the tape that's 0 for false, non-0 for true < 1379002139 784943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you loop on it, and zero it at the end of the loop < 1379002157 290524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works fine so long as you don't mind both branches of your if going to the same square < 1379002169 236879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then negation is quite easy to implement (set a cell to 1, conditionally set it to 0) < 1379002204 670718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparisons are a bit harder, you basically need to do a subtraction except track whether the cell crosses 0 < 1379002212 310273 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379002247 46899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :denzuko: you might want to read http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#x_.3D_x_.3C.3D_y for more information on how that works < 1379002325 911158 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah I read that one earlier, however from my understanding `temp0` does not exist in bf? < 1379002357 298483 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm comming from a c++ and qbasic background (yes I do know a little asm code too) < 1379002370 20210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :denzuko: basically it means "move the tape pointer to a cell you designated as a temporary" < 1379002392 28489 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a placehbolder you fill in yourself < 1379002394 375106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, x and y and temp0 and temp1 can be anywhere < 1379002402 948790 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on where you want the temporary cell to be locatd < 1379002405 731494 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ed < 1379002419 627013 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, just look at the top of the page :) < 1379002420 676084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you know where the tape pointer is (something it's always worth tracking while brainfucking), you can give an appropriate number of < or > to move there < 1379002421 211794 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it explains the notation < 1379002440 241185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, those comparisons look really overcomplex to me < 1379002445 123070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they're more efficient? < 1379002448 970718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I think wrapping is perhaps an insufficient solution to [[♦‎]] :) < 1379002449 116273 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379002526 727006 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-73-69.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379002526 872210 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-73-69.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379002526 872277 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379002527 982298 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah!! ok so the `temp0` is arbitrary and can be basically likened unto a [>][-] statement? < 1379002592 963971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++>+++++<[->[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>+<[-]]>-<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1379002595 99697 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379002599 706675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++<[->[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>+<[-]]>-<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1379002600 61074 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379002607 132508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've screwed up somewhere < 1379002617 565827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to BF directly onto IRC < 1379002736 958089 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :denzuko: you have to fill it in < 1379002745 125156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically if it says temp0, it means you have to move it to a predetermined cell you've set aside < 1379002750 915033 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the algorithm needs temporary scratch space to calculate with < 1379002758 633775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have I done wrong? < 1379002761 747054 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so replace temp0 with some >s or +++++<[->-[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>+<[-]]>-<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1379003016 865160 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379003021 135679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++<[->-[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>+<[-]]>-<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. < 1379003021 590415 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? < 1379003023 879133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1379003033 308328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's /way/ simpler than the construction on the wiki < 1379003055 681436 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that was from my bf2nasm program < 1379003098 367624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just a loop on arg 1 that decrements arg 2, then sets a flag if arg 2 is nonzero < 1379003103 391376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err if it's zero < 1379003119 219085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via incrementing it on nonzero and decrementing it always < 1379003130 740506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++<[->-[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>-<[-]]>+<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+. < 1379003131 203788 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1379003135 271659 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++>+++++<[->-[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>-<[-]]>+<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+. < 1379003135 810107 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1379003138 730735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++++<[->-[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>[>-<[-]]>+<<<<]>>>++++++++[>++++++++<-]>+. < 1379003139 236727 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :B < 1379003142 976603 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we playing bfjoust < 1379003146 757665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: no, just BF < 1379003150 331053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, !bf not !bfjoust < 1379003156 620679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was debugging it in egojsout because I could, mostly < 1379003166 383306 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1379003234 65700 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379003274 799873 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379003427 409602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody writes BF Joust code with that many < < 1379003436 631188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do >_> < 1379003436 829501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except me, I guess < 1379003462 112504 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to optimize my BF code < 1379003464 498512 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1379003470 186836 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, but then I get lost in my code < 1379004050 117906 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379004674 585827 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :use comments? < 1379004678 410467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here know someone named Elielson? < 1379004689 280704 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379004690 661829 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use some device that makes the code for you < 1379004706 467786 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I tried =O < 1379004707 416021 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379004709 786354 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in you can declare a variable x and use x and the device will replace x with the appropriate amount of > or < < 1379004715 587444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah < 1379004720 508062 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I consider that cheating =P < 1379004735 72849 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can define a macro and the device will replace the macro with its code < 1379005069 12143 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379005090 553371 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379005092 775558 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379005142 194899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya < 1379005143 239566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379005523 348352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an elielson? < 1379005700 995930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1379005715 962244 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just privmsg'd me yesterday, saying "hello" < 1379005723 848122 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was off my bouncer, and he's not around anymore < 1379005729 532956 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no clue who he is < 1379005742 927570 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :His nick isn't registered, whowas doesn't tell me anything < 1379005768 424918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think an elielson was in here earlier < 1379005818 420033 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1379005896 585372 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably another Lost Colombian. < 1379005976 278764 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379006727 299866 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Bank robbery is punishable by 20 years in federal prison... bank robbery is punishable by... bank robbery is punishable by...” < 1379006737 873468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I like minimal music.) < 1379007090 171309 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gon' rain < 1379007279 884986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379007379 39696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :D < 1379007394 388481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Nani? =P < 1379007463 759565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://youtu.be/n7JAns3PsB0 < 1379007479 380097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and http://youtu.be/anXcSl5uFig) < 1379007585 416456 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Compact Disk logo < 1379007586 58404 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379007597 681207 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, I like this < 1379007647 827188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My musical ear is twitching, though < 1379007653 329461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The meter is... fucked up < 1379007697 919531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379007715 752127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the meter is most verily definitely strategically musically fungotted up. < 1379007715 939022 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: instead of tables < 1379007720 531960 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about air conditioning < 1379007741 963572 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prematurely air conditioned supermarket < 1379007762 558735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even < 1379007830 768705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry. listen to the whole album. you can get gasoline shortest. these are the days my friends. one two three four. < 1379007846 262307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379008029 754493 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379008031 912342 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: if not tables, then when? < 1379008032 125900 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so do you understand the problem < 1379008330 118214 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :usefully, bochs' debug option for logging exceptions prints the address of the exception handler, not the place where the exception happened < 1379008663 359318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily.fungot.moed++ < 1379008663 621319 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: any command prompt... would be < 1379008784 45797 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ominous < 1379008785 284050 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like i < 1379008786 157113 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1379008790 875393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I also like i < 1379008797 208835 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not in the same way, sorry < 1379008797 487880 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379008802 324586 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma moed < 1379008802 488080 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :moed has a karma of 0 < 1379008811 627199 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma boily.fungot.moed < 1379008811 772956 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily.fungot.moed has a karma of 1 < 1379008811 936054 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma boily < 1379008812 81177 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily has a karma of 1 < 1379008812 81271 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: advice for fritz1 pasted " fresh-id" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord: no parse error there < 1379008812 996605 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379008818 905995 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo, Karma < 1379008838 844843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time my karma was tracked, I ended up at -50 for no good reason < 1379008871 292304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that the bot's owner though it'd be funny, since my nick was Skynet < 1379008877 781065 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The logic still evades me, but eh < 1379008900 971892 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :skynet is supposedly evil, I think < 1379008910 509799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1379008911 304743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1379008920 41506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just defending itself? < 1379008938 13682 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was mostly trying to catch flying fishes, I think < 1379008964 276783 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just confused the "fishing rod" subroutine with the "human extermination" one < 1379008971 241642 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And couldn't admit that it was wrong < 1379008983 394508 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379009263 440406 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379009590 919174 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379010157 787364 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1379010302 783266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck moed < 1379010303 129972 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moed is the second Order of the Mishnah, the first written recording of the Oral Torah of the Jewish people. < 1379010319 457795 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck mød < 1379010319 982204 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379010349 799879 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck öri öri öri < 1379010350 227395 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379010578 811395 :denzuko!~denzuko@cpe-24-55-52-45.austin.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish < 1379010653 459742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the generic computing helpdesk channel, right? Do you happen to know if a Windows (8) installation can innately transfer itself to a new (smaller) disk? (I've *just* gotten all drivers and mingw's and Emacses and other such necessities installed, and it took days, but now I'm getting a leftover 512G SSD I could stick it on, and a proper reinstallation doesn't sound like any sort of fun at all.) < 1379010684 84595 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why yes, fizzie, it is < 1379010700 684757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing with a shiny and sparkling 512 GB SSD? < 1379010719 530513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reminds me, I still need to quintopify that package of cookies...) < 1379010760 710747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You could probably shrink the partition to fit the smaller disk, then mirror it < 1379010762 242137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1379010844 671586 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This computer has a less shiny 64G SSD, on which is Debian, and a 2*3T HD RAID 1 set, on which is the /home, and a 1T HD on which is the Windows. I thought that moving the Windows to the SSD would get the most benefit out of it, perhaps. < 1379010864 919716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could still decide to use it for something else. < 1379010877 150160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You'd like to migrate on a half-a-terabyte SSD, right? < 1379010877 656355 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: parentheses become very lonely when they are debugging their programs for free. :p what a great explanation: http://mitpress.mit.edu/ sicp/ < 1379011026 986844 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirroring is a bit weird with GPT < 1379011066 594841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Windows disk happens to be, of course, the system disk, with the GPT disklabel and the EFI boot partitions and all that. < 1379011069 1883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a big SSD < 1379011098 187800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The person giving it to me bought a 960 GB SSD, so this one was superfluous. < 1379011108 988733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some other silly number like that. < 1379011159 588084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379011170 815373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of those things where Windows bloat works to my advantage < 1379011187 304243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the cheap SSD which is barely enough to hold Windows boot files is plenty of space for my entire system < 1379011217 541206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 64G SSD is plenty of space for the Debian, too. < 1379011288 635798 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux is plenty bloated too, this 5GB partition used to be more than enough but can barely even fit a kernel these days < 1379011325 114836 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379011329 144133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that installing 'texlive-full' takes quite a lot of disk space. < 1379011378 986057 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, many ages ago this system even had room for installing tex < 1379011431 936506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall someone computing the size of a "full installation" (as many packages as you can install at the same time, factoring in dependency conflicts) of Debian. < 1379011545 65244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379011546 874414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big? < 1379011564 997022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the result at all, and having no luck googling it as yet. < 1379011610 40910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://eduardo-lago.blogspot.fi/2012/02/what-is-size-of-ubuntu-and-debian.html I don't think this is it, but this is one size estimate. < 1379011633 848567 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's kind of irrelevant in that it sums all distributions. < 1379011648 479408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's the archive size, not the installed size. < 1379011731 664318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian 3.0 contains 105 million lines of code, according to a "paper" on arXiv, but that's still not it. < 1379011761 19174 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Debian 3.0 is really old too < 1379011798 176568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :300 million lines for Debian 5.0. < 1379011821 887698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is based on -- approximately -- downloading all source packages, deleting the 'debian/' directories, and running some SLOC counter.) < 1379011864 88362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Estimated cost to develop: 6,119,000,000 EUR." < 1379011880 727748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love estimates < 1379011901 931960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy a Nokia for less than that. < 1379011905 268937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, half a Nokia.) < 1379012276 649300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can build 1/8 of a high speed rail line from San Francisco to Los Angeles for that < 1379012416 536684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or launch about 2000 tons of stuff into low earth orbit < 1379012550 803655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or cover almost a percent of the US defense-related budget. < 1379012645 704493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infrastructure in the USA reminds me of the sci fi trope where all the cool tech (e.g. FTL travel) was built by a dead civilization and nobody anymore knows how it works or can make more < 1379012645 850060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of the B2s < 1379012809 778117 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone mentioned high-speed rail < 1379012814 877199 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a hyperloop thing < 1379012829 486041 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was a trainspotting thing. < 1379012843 643033 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, with the heroin. < 1379013050 874733 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379013278 943984 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379013612 465657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LostTechnology ? < 1379013702 214070 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379014157 964470 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379015171 855800 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :half my floor is civil engineering majors, so, like, whatever, man. < 1379015376 806287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in university we had a derogatory rhyme about civ engs: «Génie civil, génie facile». < 1379015400 393343 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a guy in my flat doing civil engineering last year < 1379015411 61761 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he spoke all of about twenty words to me in total < 1379015475 827015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! PYTHON CODE THAT USES <> INSTEAD OF != !!!!! < 1379015511 493200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror. < 1379015583 207200 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379015654 354788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, I'll find an OpenERP core developer, and... I'll do unspeakable things! like make them utter disordered speech! that'll teach them. < 1379015981 292946 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379016466 220919 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199-7-158-71.eng.wind.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379016747 574633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's an existing California High Speed Rail project which intends to use, you know, technologies that actually exist < 1379016753 744828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of magical spaceman fairy dust < 1379016774 91696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Hyperloop proposal is widely seen as an attempt to kill this project < 1379016787 85645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379016845 800790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the average person a) has no idea which technology or cost estimates are realistic, b) hates interminable expensive government-backed projects and wants some silicon valley genius to singlehandedly save us all < 1379016873 644486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I recall the Hyperloop documents contain a number of outright lies about CA HSR < 1379016897 512380 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379016935 137988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck HSR < 1379016936 54305 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :homogeneously staining regions. < 1379016942 137053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*average american < 1379016951 157540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think average person mostly? < 1379016952 487086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for (b) anyway. < 1379016960 140487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) may be universal. < 1379016960 714562 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat blown >> mind < 1379016967 243355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: blown: No such file or directory < 1379016968 846095 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's our national equivalent to the silicon valley? < 1379016976 880271 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379016992 484312 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Thedford Mines? =P < 1379016992 856673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but trusting companies more than the government is an american thing. < 1379017022 253590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and public infrastructure costs literally 10x as much to build in America as elsewhere < 1379017030 600100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would explain some of the distaste we have for it < 1379017047 773272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379017047 918646 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 4h 31m 36s ago: looks the same to me < 1379017047 918819 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 4h 3m 18s ago: I think wrapping is perhaps an insufficient solution to [[♦‎]] :) < 1379017052 371657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: HA HA HA HA HA HA! < 1379017125 537757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok koen complains at least dupdog looks worse with css instead of explicit spaces to him. < 1379017142 577430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379017142 761979 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan_ said 21s ago: I LIVE < 1379017161 66295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379017163 856338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379017227 378583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU LIVE. < 1379017251 448966 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, oerjan-underscore lives < 1379017269 109485 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaah what's the raw form of /me < 1379017286 710425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :raw? it's a CTCP action < 1379017288 32862 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :/rawme < 1379017291 536060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^AACTION ...^A < 1379017312 83374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace ^A by whatever inserts a raw ^A character < 1379017385 560125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the raw form of ^A? < 1379017432 947223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Koen_ what browser do you use? < 1379017433 130143 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379017447 168793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan What does @ask do? < 1379017447 314532 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379017453 573400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a character, U+0001 START OF HEADING < 1379017464 327373 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION test with a rawa < 1379017467 456407 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. neat. < 1379017471 747898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in this case it's probably really spec'd as the byte 0x01 < 1379017492 432372 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
Hai
< 1379017498 593415 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit < 1379017503 67944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
flblblblblblblbl. < 1379017504 346498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since IRC doesn't specify a character encoding < 1379017506 838903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>CTCP ERRMSG reply from clog [~nef@bespin.org]: unknown CTCP: Hai < 1379017539 615888 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
CTCP hatee hatee hatee hoooo < 1379017542 435696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1379017580 873116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«CTCP inconnu demandé par Roujo: boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily boily» < 1379017610 424704 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTCP boily should be in the spec < 1379017612 511849 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, come on < 1379017612 657039 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NOTICE #esoteric :This is foolish. < 1379017614 407223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379017614 552376 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo asked 2m 47s ago: What does @ask do? < 1379017622 68061 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1379017622 213629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NOTICE #esoteric :I AM THE GATE < 1379017624 196714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell roujo it asks questions < 1379017624 341859 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379017624 854961 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NOTICE #esoteric :I AM THE KEY < 1379017642 925559 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Thanks =) < 1379017643 70839 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379017659 95547 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379017661 657264 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain CTCP boily isn't in the IRC RFC < 1379017662 879839 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1379017891 892184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it doesn't matter, no client follows the rfc anyway < 1379017899 574443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379017899 720151 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo said 4m 16s ago: Thanks =) < 1379018076 812030 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NOTICE #esoteric :what are you idiots up to now < 1379018124 634677 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo NOTICE #esoteric :I thought you'd have noticed by now. Good thing you did. < 1379018161 797845 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
NOTICE we're up to nothing at all. no worries. < 1379018168 749316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARUGH! WHYYYYYYY. < 1379018175 847230 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379018183 422534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: =P < 1379018415 877715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: /notice is not ctcp < 1379018426 888484 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
NOTICE boily another try...
< 1379018439 478269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suck at ^A... < 1379018442 48743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an actual basic irc command. < 1379018459 159976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um you're doing ctcp fine, it's just that notice isn't one. < 1379018475 608242 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NOTICE #esoteric :lobster, seagull, cloud-storage. < 1379018475 898864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you _may_ have a /ctcp command, irssi does. < 1379018501 69731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
CTCP CTCP CTCP
< 1379018537 744731 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379018553 622554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think mnoqy might be annoyed. < 1379018585 149055 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mnoqy OH HAI! < 1379018585 294276 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379018598 505766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not my fault. < 1379018607 467542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1379019098 204327 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoah, wait, is that why a channel is called a channel < 1379019117 131522 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it channels irc messages to a bunch of people rather than just one < 1379019227 907048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the term is rather older than irc. < 1379019234 30454 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1379019270 49047 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :channels are what they drive boats in < 1379019288 27419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have heard of this ancient thing called "radio" and "tv". < 1379019300 534514 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1379019307 408324 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although radio has stations you idiot < 1379019310 191425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also "telegraph", but i'm not sure if that had channels. < 1379019312 907342 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're called channels to confuse swedish people < 1379019321 582563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :channels filled with small etherboats carrying pixels and phonons < 1379019355 859307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh it does? in norwegian you can say either "stasjon" or "kanal" but the latter is more common. < 1379019370 721884 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a radio canal < 1379019467 764623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«un canal radio», «une station radio»... < 1379019493 606731 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irssi will display a CTCP ACTION reply in a weird way < 1379019506 771533 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@199-7-158-71.eng.wind.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379019506 990089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only see it in that way if someone else sends it < 1379019522 409113 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NOTICE #esoteric :
ACTION Meow!
< 1379019546 442805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION Meow!
< 1379019552 569038 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1379019557 906268 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay I'm not very good at this) < 1379019651 871313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at wikipedia, it may be that "radiostasjon" is somehow more official, but "radiokanal" has more google hits. < 1379019743 892100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379019759 837590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379019889 682260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh technically "stasjon" is the place sent from, but "kanal" is the frequency band used. < 1379020149 677331 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379021155 249578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell koen_ pikhq made a bf macro system. it was called BFM at some point, except i think it was renamed. the BFM on the wiki is yet another. < 1379021155 394731 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379021558 682973 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379021983 521704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@twitter We’ve confidentially submitted an S-1 to the SEC for a planned IPO. This Tweet does not constitute an offer of any securities for sale." < 1379022077 193350 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379022240 225346 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379022352 403104 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzKvwYt3Zyg < 1379022585 824573 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379022725 217636 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379023003 518887 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379023218 790906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379023895 1090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo! sudden drop in relative humidity! < 1379023897 347209 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1379023897 842024 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 122200Z 25016G24KT 15SM FEW030 BKN090 BKN120 OVC200 21/16 A2964 RMK SC2AC4AC1CS1 SLP036 DENSITY ALT 1100FT < 1379023913 676028 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck youtube < 1379023942 23244 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have you consolidated the player size buttons and video resolution options into one button < 1379023958 898535 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because simplicity < 1379023971 160750 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok actually < 1379023975 315475 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379023975 465366 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan asked 1h 49m 2s ago: what browser do you use? < 1379023975 610966 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 47m ago: pikhq made a bf macro system. it was called BFM at some point, except i think it was renamed. the BFM on the wiki is yet another. < 1379023980 48279 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will have to describe how dumb this was in long form < 1379024013 112004 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :previously youtube had a button that brought up a menu on which you could select a resolution, and three buttons for different player sizes < 1379024027 430178 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I use firefox 23.0.1 on Mac OS X 10.6.8 < 1379024070 505233 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they have done is made the resolution menu button bring up a submenu, to which two player size buttons have been moved, and the resolution options have been moved into their own secondary drop-down menu within this < 1379024073 38364 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: does anybody use any size other than "default" or "fullscreen"? < 1379024087 615375 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sometimes use the middle one for 480p videos < 1379024110 99349 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's a subsubmenu now? < 1379024114 404947 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379024117 252315 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dumb < 1379024199 670635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: *sigh* now it looks like crap in IE, but how does it look to you? < 1379024245 445110 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hum well right now it looks fine it's in a nice rectangle < 1379024259 942660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sheesh* < 1379024260 389429 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but earlier today I sware it had a horizontal scrolling thingy < 1379024318 341170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: yes, i added some css to make it have the browser wrap instead of containing whitespace < 1379024344 303527 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: It's called PEBBLE; it's not been touched in ages, but I do have it up on github. http://github.com/pikhq/pebble < 1379024344 448827 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I messaged you after you made that edit < 1379024402 376784 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's very tempting but I'm trying to talk myself into learning Erlang and I don't think learning a brainfuck macro language will help < 1379024418 194799 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :however Bike might be interested < 1379024424 359669 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it Roujo ? < 1379024434 768592 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair warning, knowledge of Tcl helps a lot. < 1379024435 752801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is bad, word-wrap: break-word alone looks perfect in IE (presumably like the rectangle Koen_ sees now, but adding white-space: pre-wrap to fix it for Koen_ makes it look like crap in IE :( < 1379024450 310374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even worse than the /// quine does < 1379024459 850640 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it works by abusing Tcl into doing my bidding) < 1379024497 393448 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes I considered learning Tcl buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut it's not on top of my list < 1379024516 240269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: let me guess, http://esolangs.org/wiki////#Quine is also one long line to you now? < 1379024533 123283 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(incidentally I'm afraid the amount of thing I'm not doing because I have other things I want to do first is getting huger and huger every day but the amount of things I actually do is not) < 1379024545 298248 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed it is < 1379024666 698838 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: Fair enough. Tcl is pretty interesting from a language design perspective, but eh. < 1379024697 135018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: FOODENING! < 1379024698 765679 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379024707 78172 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thanks for the info anyway < 1379024749 177284 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1379024806 414086 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1379024916 760713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok how do i add white-space: pre-wrap _only_ for firefox < 1379024947 807789 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ideally, don't :P < 1379024992 169753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but IE turns that into crap and firefox doesn't wrap without it :( < 1379025015 289128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu < 1379025070 535133 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379025365 53572 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379025402 182202 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379025421 497497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: less ideally, how to do it anyhow? < 1379025463 492707 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do it inline from an article < 1379025487 518642 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :browser-sniffing is really bad... there is probably a better way to make things look consistent < 1379025495 878276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know what it would be < 1379025505 458348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the CSS syntax for casing on that stuff anyway, so I couldn't tell you < 1379025653 129716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fear that this problem is too obscure to search for :( < 1379025846 189611 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379026008 734648 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could use a media query for something that only firefox happens to support < 1379026022 167285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Client Quit < 1379026035 200325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379026254 70362 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379026670 274167 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, a friend of mine thinks php-style $$vars are a good idea. < 1379026673 258732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i talk them out of this < 1379026683 697151 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@dhcp-128-189-200-196.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379026685 551715 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. disowning? < 1379026704 149863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he doesn't know php. there's still hope < 1379026727 104442 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means he independently invented the idea. that's even worse! < 1379026749 29090 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he learned about them without knowing the rest of php? regardless though... < 1379026806 842515 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :independent invention. he came up with lexical escape in the same message, too, so like i dunno < 1379026858 288117 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexical escape < 1379026885 16391 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i don't know what it's called < 1379026908 209309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like let/cc but less reified?? whatever < 1379027128 841606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are $$vars < 1379027158 612813 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :$var is the variable called "var", $$var is the variable whose name is $var's value < 1379027172 625933 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :three-dollar programmer < 1379027179 334832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1379027181 712565 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :named after their deserved salary < 1379027183 285398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh god < 1379027190 909217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basiccally, yes. < 1379027253 172780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl has that < 1379027262 647129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's disallowed by use strict though < 1379027276 741486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in favor of the "actual" var references which are "a bit less terrible" < 1379027310 310696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: probably you talk them out of it by figuring out what their use case is and showing how it's done better with some other construct < 1379027315 761762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually lambda ;) < 1379027326 573474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he's just philosophizing rather than having specifics in mind < 1379027328 805406 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, doomed < 1379027335 402913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom < 1379027339 997568 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i just suggested a hash table) < 1379027365 694895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hash tables are probably called lists in php < 1379027365 840274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :puff puff < 1379027366 933273 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be interesting if you didn't represent variable names as strings. < 1379027373 915304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess perl's reference stuff is basically that < 1379027374 924436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to GC a hash table manually though < 1379027379 744954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they're called "arrays" < 1379027389 768979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do not want to get into gc with this guy >_> < 1379027403 657520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make him do all of SICP < 1379027452 942751 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the school. < 1379027460 45432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my OS prof was an APL programmer < 1379027627 687906 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379027680 672209 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/44962a2571e3edce3b256f3860407b46/tumblr_mt0yu2XWbB1rwn6y8o4_1280.jpg have some biogears < 1379027680 936569 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379027683 628156 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 NICK :Bike < 1379027710 508920 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are they from/what are they for < 1379027726 254250 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :insects; jumping < 1379027728 310687 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc. < 1379027731 392796 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencemag.org/content/341/6151/1254.full yes < 1379027760 663846 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gears are found rarely in animals" your tax dollars at work < 1379027924 987970 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a true science fact and don't you forget it < 1379028247 319520 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@dhcp-128-189-200-196.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379028372 805090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit koen_ left < 1379028405 191087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone look at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages#dupdog in firefox plz < 1379028500 483340 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, what should i see < 1379028605 718995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nicely rectangularly wrapped box of incomprehensible text < 1379028610 312421 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it does in chrome but with horizontal scrolling instead of a big honking textblock < 1379028613 552416 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. no i don't see wrapping. < 1379028624 612517 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379028648 509685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping i could use the firefox-only property :( < 1379028650 692846 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379028731 394392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379028737 530842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the chrome view is presumably like what i want, but i cannot get firefox and IE to agree < 1379028748 133919 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~web programming~ < 1379028750 509093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i get _either_ of them to agree, but not at the same time) < 1379028768 816327 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379028816 634363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically firefox _needs_ white-space:pre-wrap to wrap at all, which IE and chrome don't. but that messes up _how_ IE wraps, which it doesn't in firefox and chrome. < 1379028838 934430 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at white-space or whatever it's called maybe. < 1379028839 869073 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the property < 1379028854 28461 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: any advice? < 1379028854 287931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given the word-wrap:break-word property which all seem to do right, in a sense) < 1379028864 422342 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to override the white-space:pre-wrap in IE? < 1379028874 80189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i did. then i tried to add a vendor prefix. < 1379028896 206204 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, is white-space:pre-wrap actually sane and conformant, such that any normal browser should "just work" with that? < 1379028922 155911 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If so, pretend IE is the broken one, and give IE some extra CSS in an IE conditional comment. < 1379028936 589502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: IE doesn't accept conditional comments any longer iirc < 1379028945 641640 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh blah, they did remove that in IE 10. < 1379028958 187701 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl has too many ways to pass code to execute around < 1379028966 985595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :COmmand name, command prefix, scripts, script prefix < 1379029027 419451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, gensym as a builtin command would be nice < 1379029038 639916 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of every single package that needs a gensym implementing gensym < 1379029112 343496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok presumably -ms-white-space may not exist because IE was the last to support the property, or something. < 1379029147 840776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but -moz-white-space i've seen listed, so why doesn't that work :( < 1379029156 875478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vendor prefixes aren't meant to work once the stuff is standard < 1379029160 98344 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not for browser sniffing < 1379029167 229866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1379029232 484918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to stop because i'm getting angry. < 1379029317 852126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my general problem with all computer configuration, that) < 1379029454 737816 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.143 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379029475 969399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, neck ache < 1379029631 93035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you cannot win. _either_ things get brittle because people do vendor-specific things all over the place, or they get brittle because you cannot overrule what a browser actually does wrong. < 1379029672 918953 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was all that listing about earlier < 1379029678 73493 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: please teach me how to read. I was going to complain about coroutine not taking a command prefix, but it does take command + args, so that's sufficient < 1379029682 544807 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got two pings < 1379029683 927496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only solutions are gigantic hacks that need constant maintenance not to become brittle themselves. < 1379029737 316357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually the hacks become embedded into standards, making the whole thing too complicated for an amateur programmer to bother with. < 1379029772 568943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you all knew this already. < 1379029783 417479 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there there. it's okay. < 1379029816 540428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAAAAAAAAAH < 1379029842 544197 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What troubles you, child < 1379029870 100562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i'm waiting for the pain killers to hit, and for someone to solve the crappiness of programming. < 1379029874 594952 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379029877 106132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the universe. < 1379029879 967276 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1379029881 366466 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1379029888 305632 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats oerjan on the back
< 1379029892 631444 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel you < 1379030189 192502 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379030250 150159 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Internet Explorer's behavior might actually be right here. < 1379030271 854769 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the wrapping happens after punctuation-to-letter transitions, which are normal line breaking points. < 1379030332 874610 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you turn on "white-space: pre-wrap;" it'll wrap lines there first, then only break up long words where it has to. < 1379030369 495051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously no one considered the use case of wanting _only_ exact end of line wrapping when making the standards. < 1379030415 895927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the differences are probably not even considered a bug < 1379030419 416674 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1379030560 109992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my attempts at googling rectangular blocks of text seem to give pages talking about putting text inside a rectangle, which may still wrap arbitrarily there. < 1379030640 79219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or about wrapping text _around_ a rectangle. < 1379030709 388872 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may as well just manually break the lines, unless that's prohibited in this language... < 1379030798 145360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: all my recent css changes were to programs that cannot have whitespace in them < 1379030813 572209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not without major redesign, anyway < 1379030898 41421 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379030914 23656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if text-wrap:suppress would have worked if any browsers supported it < 1379030933 827952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, unrestricted < 1379030959 925006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the danger is that the browser would still prefer normal break points. < 1379030960 924739 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379031049 808994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm let's try this < 1379031240 596301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit setting word-break still makes it prefer the usual break points. < 1379032054 464789 :augur!~augur@c-69-250-18-196.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379032476 611910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can you look at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages#dupdog again? < 1379032525 485078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i managed to find http://jsbin.com/bulletproof-responsive-pre/2/edit < 1379032568 439910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adding the IE line from their made it look good to me < 1379032571 738195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from there < 1379032590 92736 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that CSS hack ;_; < 1379032619 159423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it the \9 something fiendish? < 1379032637 652276 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think it's exploiting a parser bug < 1379032641 372401 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a parser disagreement < 1379032671 42184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of evil like this circa the early 2000s: http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/boxmodelhack.html < 1379032673 175661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's the first thing i found that seems to even understand my problem :P < 1379032703 508762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that guy (Tantek Çelik) sits next to me at Mozilla SF < 1379032742 778053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i showed him some videos of trains. < 1379032749 427052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what guy? < 1379032760 909634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the owner of the domain elliott just linked to < 1379032761 518592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that link < 1379032882 477276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok it's a hack but does the result look ok? < 1379032910 82526 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Chrome, yes < 1379032942 248678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm too busy dealing with printers to help < 1379032954 765697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the attack of the zombie printers < 1379032960 755331 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :27 jobs in queue and the first is from an hour but hell if i can fix anything!! < 1379032961 818582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for their brain! < 1379032989 317322 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll just print in another lab that doesn't suspect anything < 1379032994 717319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else with firefox? < 1379033013 357770 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I interest you in a firefox installer? :P < 1379033057 804625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe later. < 1379033075 50882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to make pizza, i think < 1379033091 381376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see oerjan is an experienced web programmer < 1379033289 821200 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity896.html < 1379033527 8088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not, there's no way the two lines are compatible without some serious hacking. < 1379033766 361911 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379033860 876104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait scratch that, the solution is obvious: just bring your children and register them as web developers. that automatically implies the rest. < 1379034053 717049 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379034647 288818 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://i.cloudup.com/YTMd2VkRWl-2000x2000.jpeg Fox explains github < 1379034847 834558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i put it in a class definition, since it's pretty long and at least then we can replace it if we find something better. < 1379034932 254850 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379035323 923871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"e-note" < 1379035326 385473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"edit rights" < 1379035347 679969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1379035357 772151 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rest is twitch-worthy, but more or less right =P < 1379035364 640239 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the "pull request"... Nope < 1379035373 650563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta request a pull on that reposotory < 1379035386 319495 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379035410 267497 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, is Github going public? < 1379035443 274861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/blog/53-github-services-ipo maybe? < 1379035597 548516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"879 forks" < 1379035598 145580 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's a blog post from 2008 and it says the title is a lie in the first sentence... :p < 1379035599 67832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379035660 735280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the fox image is undated!! < 1379036272 191351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379036334 765740 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379036430 938419 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379036710 404465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the atrocities have now been properly documented. < 1379037195 191941 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379037519 554910 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're good at the admin thing < 1379037524 366608 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing all this work for me. < 1379037589 147278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1379037613 750444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1379037699 264255 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, this is a new and exciting printer problem, it interprets everything i print as one blank page. < 1379037702 471181 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck everything. < 1379037725 270380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to fuck a blank page < 1379037753 371974 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's there < 1379037763 740173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :paper cuts are nasty, man < 1379037834 976762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the mean time, you might take a hard reload on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hello_world_program_in_esoteric_languages#dupdog to confirm the latest hack works in firefox too. < 1379037836 362559 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when your dick's made out of metal < 1379037842 178608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I should really get that checked < 1379037861 398593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it needs to reload common.css) < 1379037939 30790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it _should_ work, since i stole it from elsewhere.) < 1379037997 636808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it might not work in less common browsers since i only stole one line of it.) < 1379038082 415225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular i did not steal the line with a webkit comment. < 1379038142 192117 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379038239 4588 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379038644 472851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`reload common.css < 1379038645 881211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reload of common.css complete. < 1379038649 725279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1379038661 899543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/reload < 1379038663 227014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo Reload of $1 complete. < 1379038685 699099 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's primitive < 1379038688 105303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i'm afraid that will only work for HackEgo's browser. < 1379038696 559713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all we need < 1379038707 640184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just need to install lynx there and browse via him, over IRC < 1379038714 852564 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run install lynx < 1379038716 955543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run version < 1379038718 141979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :install: missing destination file operand after `lynx' \ Try `install --help' for more information. < 1379038719 253956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: version: command not found < 1379038730 554323 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run install lynx lynx < 1379038732 145988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :install: cannot stat `lynx': No such file or directory < 1379038735 365109 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1379038737 373306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1379038740 624173 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget hats < 1379038742 894233 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2013-09-13 02:19:02-- http://hats/ \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2013-09-13 02:19:02 ERROR 403: Forbidden. < 1379038754 561735 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wget http://psychose.ca < 1379038757 15987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2013-09-13 02:19:15-- http://psychose.ca/ \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2013-09-13 02:19:16 ERROR 403: Forbidden. < 1379038762 376842 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1379038766 292730 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's blocked altogether < 1379038768 360537 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing, imo < 1379038784 268161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint: HackEgo has a whitelist for web access. < 1379038800 539634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hint 2: `fetch works around it. < 1379038827 783050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://psychose.ca < 1379038828 372060 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ http://psychose.ca: Scheme missing. < 1379038832 457109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379038836 204842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://psychose.ca < 1379038838 877898 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-13 02:20:37 URL:http://psychose.ca/ [78/78] -> "index.html" [1] < 1379038846 721918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat index.html < 1379038848 192429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ \ \ \ Yayyyy! \ < 1379038888 922946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the catch is that `fetch is not useable from other commands. < 1379039416 382411 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/7tImjmw < 1379039604 711731 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379039655 14135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask fungot but he's gone again. < 1379039679 341415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which raises the question: has fungot ever been seen together with that thing < 1379041875 415884 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1379041917 152148 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I pondered how this Hylisk program would translate into Haskell: "module Main where main :: World -> World; main = \x -> x" < 1379041937 375569 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I concluded that "\x", "->", and "x" would translate to "return ()", ">>", and "return ()", respectively. < 1379041947 386596 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, "module Main where main :: IO (); main = return () >> return ()" < 1379041949 335600 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Efficient. < 1379041958 255297 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elegant. < 1379041960 526213 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extraordinary. < 1379042064 136379 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "\x -> x" were to be translated into a Haskell type a -> a instead of a Haskell type IO a, it would, of course, translate as "id . id" < 1379042120 994660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1379042137 436961 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, man, dang, amirite. < 1379043714 87431 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes irc 'help' channels really make me rage < 1379043740 94242 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love it when you get a guy who's doing everything he can to show he's smarter than you instead of actually doing something simple like pasting a link < 1379043762 332473 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode y u!!! < 1379043851 723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll just have to change to doing everything in haskell < 1379043877 742082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok they'll still show they're smarter than you, but they'll _also_ try to help. < 1379044006 703057 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, I'm having trouble working through Linux From Scratch." "Do it in Haskell." < 1379044088 969163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :accurate. < 1379044614 976367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379044810 281209 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379045314 996364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379045725 791045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This reminds me, I should do Linux From Scratch < 1379045768 347055 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does LFS give you a modern Linux desktop or is it @90s_Linux_User all the way < 1379045819 961677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't matter, I'm not planning on using it as a 'real' system < 1379045843 503811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matters as far as whether it teaches you "how things really work" < 1379045886 135723 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379045903 924429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379046010 423810 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oefpjhxlxfpcxakq QUIT :Ping timeout: 261 seconds < 1379046053 152223 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: LFS proper gives you a fairly sane build environment *for* a modern Linux desktop that just happens to be missing nearly every dependency. < 1379046067 378225 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLFS describes how to build stuff you'd care about, like, say, XFCE. < 1379046110 23333 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: do you still like Tcl? < 1379046115 343566 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1379046120 280582 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379046124 504001 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is currently on a Tcl kick
< 1379046142 378124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1379046146 418258 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379046160 175693 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider it a fairly good example of how to do language minimalism without making something utterly impractical. < 1379046217 59394 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean really, you can do a Tcl implementation in like 500 lines of not-crazy C. < 1379046241 665109 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a Tcl be done in a little bit of not-crazy LSL? < 1379046245 488763 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1379046245 701181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should attempt to do that < 1379046253 49759 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, maybe? < 1379046277 994467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, this 500 not-crazy C implementation, might not be as efficient as the official implementation? < 1379046291 176646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official implementation doesn't internally do EIAS < 1379046293 959637 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowhere *near*. < 1379046334 433589 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The official implementation is a bytecode compiler, and does more "everything can be a string" than EIAS. < 1379046358 629902 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a suspended coroutine be a string? < 1379046369 513252 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1379046383 12365 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imaginine everything in the Tcl universe being serializable... except suspended coroutines < 1379046997 97927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep a serializable continuation. < 1379047004 315071 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wajkrfptuthuowxj JOIN :#esoteric < 1379047243 778280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcl hhas coroutines? < 1379047413 397190 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to my knowledge. < 1379047447 78502 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you could probably hack it in via stack inspection. :) < 1379047462 924252 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame the call stack isn't actually first class. < 1379047761 906102 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379047889 239956 :SingingBoyo!~Brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379047914 604063 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pikhq: new to 8.6: http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.6/TclCmd/coroutine.htm < 1379047955 495717 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1379048215 911176 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's a built-in OO system in 8.6 < 1379048239 681809 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intended more to be a framework on which to make OO systems, but usable independently in and of itself < 1379048257 293482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would the call stack being first class work < 1379048295 932517 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Tcl specifically, or in general? < 1379048302 914436 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That was 8.5. < 1379048308 56230 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 8.6 added to it though. < 1379048315 127763 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, i guess < 1379048320 345881 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly. < 1379048335 417730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.tcl.tk/18152 < 1379048348 65912 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: not sure how, but Smalltalk does it < 1379048375 574897 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Ah, yes, a wrapper for the constructs 8.5 had. < 1379048385 520864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think there was an independent package for 8.5 and it became part of core in 8.6 < 1379048387 700488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the data structure's simple to imagine. a stack made up of frames. < 1379048572 190393 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379048682 976814 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379048888 874042 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379048933 669432 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379049340 738500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379051371 298006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379052247 93490 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1379052369 179050 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1379052439 126194 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379053684 187918 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379054930 36385 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379054942 273279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379054944 274356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379055014 785886 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379055448 888892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379055675 928747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 918 < 1379055677 568239 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 918: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379056604 190074 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379056624 855558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379056750 866950 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379057061 735950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379057522 188565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379057843 861687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379058137 261733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379058517 914186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379058747 876808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bikes keep rolling past < 1379059018 856656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379059448 928166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379059895 884228 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379061141 988802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/Pcjf?c best macro? < 1379061465 560413 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough includes < 1379061502 153867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", 01001); < 1379061506 967310 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :513 < 1379061551 502457 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can it just use 16 macros B_0000..B_1111 and make B4(x) expand to the expansion of B##x? < 1379061553 264955 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it just use* < 1379061572 124072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c print("%d",(((01001)&1)|(((01001)>>2)&2)|(((01001)>>4)&4)|(((01001)>>6)&8))); < 1379061574 566180 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1379061579 658323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379061583 821159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d",(((01001)&1)|(((01001)>>2)&2)|(((01001)>>4)&4)|(((01001)>>6)&8))); < 1379061585 767130 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1379061598 597097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh right < 1379061675 413572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's the standard set on that bot. < 1379061689 118117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d", 0b1001); /* the power of GCC extensions */ < 1379061691 126371 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1379061720 88270 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :geordi or something like that? < 1379061723 992563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :candide < 1379061864 557248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sure, it's easy enough to use 16 macros for B4 -- but the octal approach can go up to a B22. < 1379061892 640166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(01111111111111111111111 is less than 2^64.) < 1379061924 987268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062217 302546 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379062239 715377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: a cow is more likely to stand up in the next 15 minutes the longer it has been lying down, but not any more likely to lie down in the next 15 minutes the longer it has been standing up. < 1379062260 126875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2013 Ig Nobel Prices were given out recently.) < 1379062304 262104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also learned: our university library agreements include the Applied Animal Behaviour Science journal.) < 1379062483 677219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so cows stand up exponentially < 1379062487 480233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1379062491 514196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lie down < 1379062529 81495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that from an elsevier bundle? < 1379062534 710870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1379062542 839534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an Elsevier journal, anyway. < 1379062565 514868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, can you guess what is currently missing... < 1379062598 786856 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062600 404888 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. < 1379062601 958508 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379062608 397513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379062647 998098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably bike, he's very on and off today < 1379063298 961549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379063403 722528 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379063717 269140 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379063844 411482 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1379064016 192316 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379064206 750957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379064311 44206 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379065469 933379 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/VeGL "lies, more lies, and documentation." < 1379065630 82337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1379066772 628031 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379067211 746027 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-40.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379067211 933936 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-40.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379067211 934006 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379068175 189152 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379068878 187674 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379068991 375020 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379069906 751699 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379071286 876981 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it doesn't say that it doesn't turn on other optimizations < 1379071350 435381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Details, schmetails. < 1379071525 658846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 263 seconds < 1379071787 748437 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379071889 882254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379072394 382835 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379072920 745366 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379073747 861759 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379074627 722877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379076038 772685 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379076973 656855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://pastebin.ca/2449462 < 1379078658 855166 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379078727 360542 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There is a flag to get gcc to give you all the flags that -Owhatever expands into. < 1379078854 896469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. there is such a thing as Objective-C++. < 1379078873 855084 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's for gluing objc to C++ < 1379078922 201966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I was confused for a moment because of the clashing object models. < 1379078974 870523 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It basically exists so that Safari can be written using an Objective-C UI and C++ VM ;) < 1379079055 648943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm disgusted. < 1379080111 158750 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next up, Object-PL/I++ < 1379080122 351011 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowait, Objective-Fortran++ < 1379080227 362484 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Object-PL/I++ is the most terrifying. < 1379080273 602068 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-COBOL++Script.NET? < 1379080356 5333 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away from Gregor. “AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!”
< 1379080378 264792 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379080932 755950 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379081050 405876 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Igs are in! http://www.improbable.com/ig/winners/#ig2013 < 1379081274 336725 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beauty Is in the Eye of the Beer Holder < 1379081359 117871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm pretty honestly impressed by the archaelogy one < 1379081404 480891 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379081420 763176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i see one of the 2012 winners on twitter all the time. didn't know they did the eiffel study < 1379081552 193856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parboiling a dead shrew. what the fungot where they thinking. < 1379081552 429870 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: must be canadia < 1379081566 302295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, in fact, it is. < 1379081655 577996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just it, it's actually a pretty good idea < 1379081663 576983 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean how else would you tell which bones would survive? < 1379081822 698593 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379081936 244618 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379082306 895726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's besides the main problem of why would you voluntarily eat a parboiled dead shrew. < 1379082350 112093 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, guess what I had to drink with my lunch < 1379082449 600036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379082466 964499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm curious. or in that case, I think you are the one who was curioused. < 1379082483 593704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Taneb < 1379082483 751455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Fri Sep 13 15:28:06 < 1379082500 648369 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your thought patterns are along the right line, as indeed I was curious < 1379082511 720917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my drink satisfied my curiosity < 1379082552 871492 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1379082559 391043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello! < 1379082616 263030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: an argentinian coworker supplies me with mate tea-bags while we wait for another argentinian coworker to replenish the main mate stock. < 1379082636 620977 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, getting colder < 1379082679 638392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only a tangential beverage. I still support the Hexhamite Botanical Infusion Hypothesis. < 1379082851 744607 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo =) < 1379083188 446374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily What would you recommend to me re: learning Japanese? < 1379083188 591706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379083875 831024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still here. only having weird python errors. < 1379083935 550630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'd say the “Minna no Nihongo” textbooks, because they are popular, and we went through them in uni. < 1379083971 856970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I know you're here, I just wanted to ask you something so I @asked it < 1379083972 2281 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379084293 697283 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379084343 931710 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379084900 997563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Roujo you vile bot abuser. < 1379084901 182499 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379084925 71202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379084925 216902 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 24s ago: you vile bot abuser. < 1379084929 692177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's nice < 1379084949 119426 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, thanks fot the tip, I'll look into those ^^ < 1379085001 103535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: as I said yesterday, I can lend you mine. < 1379085030 934130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sing me a song < 1379085031 278005 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i never found the original paper on syntactic closures? syntax-case ( obviously not... :) < 1379085031 707386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I missed that =P < 1379085032 674807 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1379085038 708589 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^theme hats < 1379085047 657134 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mess it up again? < 1379085048 872806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style hats < 1379085049 18017 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085052 601666 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379085053 927316 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1379085055 148694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379085055 294191 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379085063 219175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1379085063 364681 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1379085067 623162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sing me a song of eurocrats < 1379085070 46129 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: mr president, this report reflects the policy consensus between the partners, a process that began in 1989 with the first phase of the pig cycle. one thing is certain: we should insist that other contributors fulfil their commitments. otherwise the gap between levels of prosperity in the region? to my way of thinking, mrs ghilardotti, particularly, within the framework of protectionism. moreover, this draft, in its opinion < 1379085083 109832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible for us to add themes to the list? < 1379085097 38809 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1379085097 222512 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1379085101 944482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1379085102 90070 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1379085104 996852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1379085234 906908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think Roujo wants you to add a new fungostyle. < 1379085271 828399 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I think the RFCs might be pretty cool to markov from ^^ < 1379085283 375159 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1379085283 520621 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1379085290 129270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :This might get redundant < 1379085302 939154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you redund with a runcible spoon? < 1379085303 136308 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just to help an fnord archive) < 1379085351 623829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style rfc < 1379085351 769265 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085358 26959 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style not found < 1379085358 175154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1379085366 579926 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool | ^style < 1379085375 958547 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379085777 125200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some instructions about the style-making machinery. < 1379085805 325558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RFCs do not sound like a bad idea. < 1379085896 801387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more inclined to add things if someone else does the necessary preprocessing into the "one full IRC comment per line, no ASCII art and page numbers and such" format, though. < 1379086321 364305 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, that was my original question: < 1379086328 376229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<+Roujo> Is it possible for us to add themes to the list? < 1379086345 298087 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was ready to do the work needed, I just wanted to know if I had the rights to do it < 1379086357 114647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379086367 976107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. It needs the editing of some files. < 1379086374 697517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see ^^ < 1379086382 23152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "one full IRC comment per line"? < 1379086406 870520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, one example of the sort of a thing it should generate as a single comment. < 1379086425 555864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "can stop here" flags are set based on that. < 1379086453 407475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The comment length model is particularly cruddy.) < 1379086460 237423 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so it's not a pure markov thing < 1379086461 81354 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379086466 125602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a ngram model. < 1379086467 195799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/pure/simple/ < 1379086487 621461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more or less the same, just the viewpoint is slightly different. < 1379086508 282402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ngram model is just a markov model with a sliding window state < 1379086517 326349 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sliding windows at home < 1379086560 277865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An ngram model is just a markov model with a sliding window state" >wisdom/'ngram model' < 1379086564 385091 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379086579 66581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm should markov be capitalized < 1379086600 664729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "An ngram model is just a Markov model with a sliding window state" >wisdom/'ngram model' < 1379086604 304703 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379086614 865352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://lib.tkk.fi/Diss/2007/isbn9789512288946/article4.pdf‎ -- that's what it uses. < 1379086628 541787 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot =) < 1379086649 173633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose this would be technically falls if the ngram model had n unbounded. but i don't think fizzie does that. < 1379086653 498982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*false < 1379086672 463437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot even blame autocorrection. < 1379086686 591504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't. But it is a variable-length ngram model. < 1379086754 559055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Still, that's mostly a representation detail.) < 1379086796 150699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you could have variable width windows. < 1379086827 815320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously the width won't increase by more than 1 each step. < 1379086859 716309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: If you *really* want to "do the work", you can go all the way to the actual model files used by fungot. But that requires getting some software. < 1379086860 135096 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going to the theater of others. god keep. i will walke my selfe, richard. then, heaven, i love thee well; and, by my friend, c < 1379086886 820066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379086887 3009 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379086889 142977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1379086934 794751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if any of that was not shakespeare. < 1379086959 531151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think "hit every stupid person" was necessarily Shakespeare. < 1379087047 609093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly wondering what an actualt "prepared" document looks like. Stripping the page number, table of contents and such is easy enough, but I'm not sure I see what the lines are supposed to look like < 1379087089 215374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you still have one of those from the other styles for me to take a look at? =) < 1379087176 663049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for irc it's simple enough i assume, just use the part after : in the PRIVMSG < 1379087220 833591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or after > in our usual style logs < 1379087247 709768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... just sentences? < 1379087259 618705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a book there'd be the question of how big blocks to use. maybe entire paragraphs. < 1379087272 923896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want it to be able to continue after a period, after all. < 1379087339 354809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing really preventing you joining the whole book into line (well, maybe there's a length limit) but that would probably give some unnatural jumps. < 1379087348 46905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :across chapters and stuff. < 1379087355 129996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*into one line < 1379087377 838408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Well, I mean, it's really a matter of taste. < 1379087397 229088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically any point in the book where you want the model to be able to go from one word to the next, you want the two words on the same line. < 1379087403 37788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of things would you like the bot to output as a single reply, pretty much. < 1379087425 253015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379087425 398661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot* homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379087427 21472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used sentences for some styles. < 1379087432 850346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1379087432 995760 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1379087442 722896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i bet not for this one < 1379087443 884711 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, people outside this house. in the column on the right were disappointed that these were not in a position to consider that although the minutes mentioned specifically the epp group will therefore not support any initiative which stresses the importance of the human race in general and the prospects of enlargement and the report, the european union < 1379087472 526980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that had disturbingly few periods. < 1379087474 258740 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: madam president, i also believe that the introduction of profit sharing through the exchange of information, also exercise control of this house surely has so little room for manoeuvre. what is worse, it has been under intense discussion for days if not weeks. that confirms how right parliament was to start both the accession and negotiation procedures. as a general question. could you not arrange for people to work in < 1379087484 493455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not exactly strict, because it always has the zero-length context to fall back on. < 1379087539 460879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stopping is not strictly from the ngram model, it doesn't stop when the sentence-end token happens to be generated (like you might expect). < 1379087543 802763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so it can use that other than at the beginning? < 1379087576 366653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379087580 462029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: More than that: it can't use that at the beginning, because the context at beginning is the sentence-start token, and that always has some possible ways to continue. < 1379087593 761095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1379087623 510387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, but that means the zero length context would be even less continuity than starting a new sentence. < 1379087628 474333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1379087647 156028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just the overall word frequencies.) < 1379087655 93210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But technically if it ends up generating a word that has never been followed by anything, but it decides not to stop there, I think it'll use that. < 1379087714 84798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like it would be more natural to use the sentence-start token for it. < 1379087730 987553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't think it does. < 1379087740 361563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all from memory, it might work slightly differently. < 1379087754 219289 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379087766 925449 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379087774 366989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also possible that it actually contains the sentence-end tokens and always stops if one of those is generated, and the extra ad-hoc rules were just an extra on top of that. < 1379087778 745889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't quite recall. < 1379087807 565438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1379087824 997855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i guess you talk well enough, anyhow. < 1379087825 845890 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, during your final six months as decided at the copenhagen summit in two minutes all i can say that the reason for this is the only possible decision. allow me, on the early warning system was set up in nairobi. < 1379087872 966468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that does not sound like very good time management. < 1379087874 990412 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, naturally i will be happy to keep parliament fully informed to the greatest possible interest in ensuring that we have failed to keep its position for the future, when it comes to this parliament: is the crisis of which the discharge has been shown with regard to preparations which are not their own personal interests. if a man campaigns for the withdrawal of troops and hardware to be deployed and allowing < 1379087877 298083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for Europarl, the units for that were single statements made by one speaker. < 1379087883 481385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They are quite long.) < 1379087893 388557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379087898 273657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's continuity over sentences there. < 1379087923 186962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there are some styles where the preprocessing has been quite rudimentary, and there are leftover line breaks, and it sometimes stops right in the middle. < 1379087926 681269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1379087926 827029 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1379087929 926309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Was this one of those? < 1379087930 199496 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: memtop 65061, 65433 ( decimal). if you know that it is set to 0 < 1379087944 505571 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ...if I know that, then what? < 1379087944 745999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: searching for game timers, and do not count when it is necessary to select the keyboard. < 1379087946 50753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1379087992 393801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, extracting sentences is one reasonable thing to do. < 1379088057 802065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Next up, Object-PL/I++ <-- i'm thinking of Objectivist-B. you have to start at B, because A is A. < 1379088117 427650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(objectivist-C is of course well known already.) < 1379088203 527452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh igs < 1379088246 955552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the stopping rule -- assuming the Perl prototype matches fungot -- is, in fact, "for each point where $prefix->{canstop}, stop if rand(20) < (number of generated words)/5 + 1". So it depends partly on the model ('canstop' is set if the sentence-end token is possible in that context), but the probability for generating it is explicitly set based on the current length instead of using its frequency. < 1379088247 205337 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: once you've made a sprite onto the stack entries made by for, loading, and change the number of the number is written to with a secondary address of the logical file < 1379088367 197830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect I really should've used either just the sentence token (and accepted the somewhat bad length distribution modeling), or used a proper separate length model (say, one Gaussian) with parameters set from the data. < 1379088402 615537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, "it works", as an engineer would say. < 1379088413 385708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you any good at generating gaussians? < 1379088413 553866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: purpose: set ieee bus. remember, that is filled. it is an arbitrary starting point similar to def fn. def fn a(x)=x+7 with a secondary command, it can be reset to 0 < 1379088444 298215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how you generate Gaussian random numbers. < 1379088641 966454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely recalls that they were simplest to generate in pairs.
< 1379088672 82022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The good old Box-Muller. < 1379088678 193796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Marsaglia polar. < 1379088694 25091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both do make a pair of norma deviates from a pair of uniformly distributed numbers. < 1379088713 658526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another fungot deficiency: it always selects the longest context with words, instead of using the backoff weights. (That's one reason for those loops.) < 1379088713 847530 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: by looking at the time, the 6566/ 6567 fetches data from. < 1379088769 499616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr you removed one of the reasons < 1379088792 433579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there was also a bug, the details of which I forgot. < 1379088816 503286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about it only looking at a limited subset of the options, iirc < 1379088853 581096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the number of ? iterations (each iteration generates 2 bits) was too low for the varikn-generated models. < 1379088921 259915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The frequencies I get out from varikn are just numbers in the [0, 1] range, which I multiplied with some big constant K because the bot works with integers -- the old styles had actual word counts there, and the numbers were generally smaller.) < 1379089110 443248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat_algorithm < 1379089186 301636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the fancy one. < 1379089281 960569 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379089317 375499 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379089372 423439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Getting back on track, http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/varikn/readme.txt has the instructions if you want to actually make a model (in which case you get to do the parameter-tweaking); or you can skip step 0 and stop at step 1, because the rest is really quite mechanistic. < 1379089372 643555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: large amounts of data is permanently read into these three bits are used to read the output of the sprite's 21-line length. < 1379089388 193213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you do want to fiddle with it, the -D and -E parameters in those instructions are "wrong".) < 1379089405 96229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Alright, thanks ^^ < 1379089473 61573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I forgot that step #7 was still there... < 1379089963 756820 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you actually modify the dupdog program or is the diff thingy just confused? < 1379090124 920732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i took away all the newlines < 1379090145 565046 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I thought < 1379090161 874795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eventually added a pre with the new class < 1379090191 188513 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to make sure this wasn't "oh hey btw here is an optimization" < 1379090208 833228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the idea was to make the formatting by css instead, so that you can cut and paste it correctly. < 1379090246 347950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the actual program definitely should not have newlines in it. < 1379090258 512037 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1379090467 35205 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379090471 31 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379090887 483554 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091170 39001 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bank robbery is punishable by 20 years in federal prison" < 1379091172 97617 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL < 1379091204 952784 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: did you listen to the whole thing? < 1379091215 527344 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just gotten to that point < 1379091243 395529 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can somebody link to this damn song < 1379091247 224851 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1379091267 963792 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091274 501729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7JAns3PsB0 < 1379091276 526255 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the whole shebang → http://youtu.be/MIDuZq7RVAM?list=PLTUlTwlsdlFQhHsAoG7sCxumrigHW-qJk < 1379091278 502086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Phantom_Hoover < 1379091279 481327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1379091281 231753 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379091284 624893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more < 1379091285 732847 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1379091445 151767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also the puddle version, but it's OVER 9000 decamyriabytes! < 1379091462 392729 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka. 900 MB) < 1379091481 758255 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379091491 382507 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091497 476920 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smacks boily around with a calisse de grosse truite
< 1379091542 772064 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is calisse de grosse truite? < 1379091557 544410 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fucking big trout" =P < 1379091560 739243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome FreeFull < 1379091562 744567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: MWAH AH AH! moéssi I can make bilingual mauvais jeux de mots! < 1379091563 884082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​10FreeFull: 12Welco06me to the i08nternational hub 02fo14r es12ot11eric progra02mming language de11sign a08nd depl14oyment06! Fo12r more inf08or02mation, check out our wiki: http://esolangs13.org/wiki/Main_Page. (F09or th10e 08o03ther kind of esot11erica, try #03esoteric08 06on irc.da05l.n06et.10) < 1379091565 746819 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379091593 745719 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091605 339832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I też can mówić w dwóch językach. < 1379091648 265591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nani? =P < 1379091663 178198 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :English + Polish =P < 1379091671 293347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my tongue. it is not happy. < 1379091683 957719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: puddle. flaque. make the connection. < 1379091686 784381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION massages boily's tongue
< 1379091695 61260 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I know. Believe me, I know. < 1379091700 776406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION “hghbhmmmmhghh”
< 1379091715 196396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finishes
< 1379091743 384006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION “hmhmggnghanks”
< 1379091806 788952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379091837 81243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks hghbhmmmmhghh < 1379091838 652777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hghbhmmmmhghh. Tghbhmmmmhghh. < 1379091866 750265 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379091926 474239 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Roujo and boily for making him listen to this painful thing -----###
< 1379091937 303350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs douglass
< 1379091939 309790 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379091951 398705 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides behind Bike to dodge oerjan's swat.
< 1379091976 193891 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION build a shed around Bike
< 1379091979 584366 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you think that's painful... < 1379091990 476066 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION then debates about the most suitable color for the shed
< 1379091999 724954 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well it's a job where you go to syria to look at centuries-old garbage. < 1379091999 870464 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange < 1379092000 474251 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my favorite color < 1379092007 681107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :orange! that's right! < 1379092008 801392 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even a question tbh...... < 1379092018 807175 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1379092035 604458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh i'm sure there are far worse things. < 1379092061 477520 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my shirt is orange. < 1379092099 191081 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're bad at bikeshedding. we need something more... disagreement-prone. < 1379092180 791615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but there were these words they mentioned that i tried to listen until i found, but it was impossible to hear the words said _and_ having the counting song be at a bearable volume at the same time. < 1379092187 146668 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat < 1379092188 875657 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092204 93243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Discuss < 1379092231 304988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/run < 1379092232 338163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo run < 1379092247 672853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat run < 1379092249 10907 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: run: No such file or directory < 1379092286 184747 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379092289 118967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/run < 1379092293 79772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092305 164938 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| cat" is kind of awesomely pointless < 1379092316 635108 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it, though? =P < 1379092325 766653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"| echo" would be < 1379092341 970509 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :| echo wouldn't even work < 1379092349 285712 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | echo < 1379092350 789410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092353 246121 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1379092360 864797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! it should echo a newline < 1379092363 286658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat | cat | cat | cat < 1379092364 922850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092377 737594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that worked perfectly < 1379092404 942235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: HackEgo strips final newlines. < 1379092419 412408 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379092431 581373 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n '' < 1379092433 373071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092494 891561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1379092499 193353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def ul (That's interesting!)S < 1379092499 338704 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1379092514 506234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\input insert \x0a < 1379092532 921613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ what do you think about this? < 1379092538 16652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1379092542 124775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1379092542 270277 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord prefixes tmp test celebrate wiki chr ha rainbow rainbow2 welcome me tell eval elikoski list ping def a < 1379092551 512500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show a < 1379092551 657934 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+13[.] < 1379092565 250757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show def < 1379092565 395999 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hai)S < 1379092577 30670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm. < 1379092598 831890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show list < 1379092598 976933 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot)S < 1379092602 690671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379092609 326370 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1379092610 215427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show ping < 1379092610 360824 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That Pong alone cannot stop!)S < 1379092611 966400 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379092657 481819 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379092672 23517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have found a bug arising from the fact that Rust macros are not hygenic wrt named loop break labels < 1379092675 634987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1379092689 652864 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379092698 881662 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are rust macros just c style or what < 1379092703 994350 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what actually is rust < 1379092711 146530 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ for nerds < 1379092737 859581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rust trying to have scheme style hygienic macros < 1379092742 642563 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact. "`run echo rofl" != "`run `which echo` rofl" < 1379092745 567270 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have no idea why < 1379092752 550275 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which echo < 1379092753 571060 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/echo < 1379092763 903211 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo rofl < 1379092765 319828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1379092768 546393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run `which echo` rofl < 1379092770 481865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379092772 93585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which echo < 1379092773 654598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/echo < 1379092788 250448 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo's normally special-cased by the shell isn't it < 1379092789 523394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no they are closer to Scheme macros although only recently partially hygenic http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/tutorial-macros.html < 1379092789 922962 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run `which cat` cat < 1379092791 720128 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379092792 428069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: echo is normally intercepted by the shell for efficiency. < 1379092796 569302 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379092805 943168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/echo < 1379092806 462141 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, nice. < 1379092807 172651 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo No output. < 1379092815 878553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1379092842 864581 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't get this syntax at all but whatever < 1379092847 379573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda don't like these special purpose macro languages. just lemme run code at compile time and spit out an AST! < 1379092861 274462 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy talk < 1379092899 823781 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't expose compiler things like the AST at compile time! the world would go mad < 1379092905 119150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it works out ok so far < 1379092911 301675 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but that's why you use lisp < 1379092922 70654 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't have syntax, obviously < 1379092923 279025 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASTs are such a poor interface though < 1379092930 297103 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp more like shitsp < 1379092932 600942 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that I really have a better suggestion) < 1379092942 956300 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's wrong with asts < 1379092955 811325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Rust is a systems language that provides explicit control over allocation, but in a way where the compiler can prove memory safety < 1379093001 241736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has a few novel features supporting that, and the rest is just like "let's design a systems language for 2013 not 1970" so things like pattern matching, macros, real module system, etc < 1379093055 772183 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Phantom_Hoover just successfully troll kmc? :p < 1379093077 556324 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :troll? i thought he just asked what rust was and kmc answered < 1379093078 373956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1379093090 11316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like it took me long to compose that answer ;P < 1379093098 444969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since people keep asking me that < 1379093102 249645 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u mad kmc??? < 1379093106 430926 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379093113 617547 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was in response to < 1379093114 325064 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:21:51 ah but that's why you use lisp < 1379093114 470285 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:22:01 because it doesn't have syntax, obviously < 1379093115 211714 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc probably has a macro to explain rust. < 1379093117 367156 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was obvious kmcbait < 1379093118 333119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you really want to troll ask "how is this better than Go?" < 1379093124 526694 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's too obvious\ < 1379093144 43051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a completely different language for a completely different niche, and yet people can't stop comparing Rust to it for some reason < 1379093151 231236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ást er góð < 1379093152 138452 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc trolls himself < 1379093190 367356 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, and if you added monads it would basically be haskell < 1379093192 927200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: naturellement, mais pourquoi en ce moment-ci? < 1379093208 57679 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, now there's a half-decent troll < 1379093211 268206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: to Go or Rust? < 1379093216 85583 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :both < 1379093217 854945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379093224 946404 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379093244 692478 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :recipe for Haskell: add monads to water and season according to taste < 1379093258 787830 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget the purity! < 1379093270 98987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day, the majority of languages will have monads in them. < 1379093273 271133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even assembly! < 1379093279 643257 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a beautiful future < 1379093288 487624 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the recipe for the strathclyde haskell enhancement < 1379093296 487159 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thought: when did "assembly" become a monolithic thing < 1379093305 531984 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just a bunch of seasoning < 1379093306 267892 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's, not. < 1379093351 421811 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it's like, it's a monolithic thing to people who are kind of outside of it? < 1379093354 670938 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, stab yourself a few times < 1379093357 610037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes is. < 1379093359 578146 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't really understand it < 1379093361 664808 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well yes, but why < 1379093363 991295 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instant Haskell: Just Add Water! (Ingredients: Pure Monad Powder) < 1379093365 254413 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when rather < 1379093372 535707 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is that a recipe or a personal thing < 1379093375 663882 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it's like, how "functional languages" are a monolithic thing to some peole < 1379093382 717135 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a strathclyde thing < 1379093385 649467 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like they're al lisp or something I don't know (?) < 1379093392 800168 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean that's taken as a group < 1379093399 650815 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably vaguely aware that ML and Lisp have differences < 1379093409 131184 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lisp suffers from that itself < 1379093410 773678 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people talk about "assembly" as if it as one language < 1379093418 747409 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suffers from what, being seen as monolithic? < 1379093419 30512 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like people lump all the languages with lots of parens into one thing < 1379093421 263348 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379093424 783521 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's silly < 1379093442 471170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because Bike asked what's wrong with it < 1379093444 640263 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "lisp is god" thing doesn't help, but whatever < 1379093446 34194 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might just be a thing people do in general, "C/C++" and so on... < 1379093448 713299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives a stainless bloodless machine-washable ceramic stabbing salt-shaker with nice floral motifs
< 1379093456 491660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the space of languages looks really different depending on where you are < 1379093462 367333 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess assembly kind of has it the worst given that it's not even really a language family so much as a type of language < 1379093477 540502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people will argue forever about the differences between Python and Ruby and JavaScript and they all seem kinda the same to me < 1379093481 309164 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least c++ is "almost" a superset of C. scheme and common lisp and elisp are pretty damn different < 1379093493 803993 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a little dynamic scope between friends, i guess < 1379093503 460444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives the aforementioned salt-shake to noodl. you know, verb target and stuff...
< 1379093509 69966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ke/ker/ < 1379093511 45112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the whole point of "Lisp" is that you get to cherry-pick the language attributes you like from Common Lisp, Scheme, Clojure, etc. to support whataver point you're trying to make < 1379093512 163011 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wish we could compile any source into a binary module and link wildly with other so compiled modules. < 1379093518 457376 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :/ < 1379093524 823551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey wanna add C++ FFI to Rust? < 1379093528 871167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would really help us out < 1379093529 857607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379093533 13601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sincerely, servo team < 1379093544 691202 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who's trying to make a CL implementation with a C++ ffi, presumably because he's crazy < 1379093549 246785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumablyp < 1379093563 982774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can do C++ FFI in general without outputting lots of C++ code and compiling it < 1379093569 887424 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what he's doing >_< < 1379093576 641144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then at least he's on the right track!! < 1379093586 118489 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i just feel like this whole language separation thing is kind of wrong < 1379093605 714954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, unfortuantely languages tend to have type systems / memory models that are hard to reconcile < 1379093618 482904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why we resort to lowest common denominator: C types or JSON or such < 1379093622 86232 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have a binary object file that defines calling convention and so on, and have a universal symbol something < 1379093629 925204 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1379093641 723092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, like, stuffing a bunch of language runtimes into the same process can be tricky < 1379093679 826228 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i don't know enough about that < 1379093686 416775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't even know many languages where the runtime is a .so < 1379093687 44052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to force every language to play together nicely kinda just homogenises the languages you can use < 1379093729 642630 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can sorta go for only really supporting one kind of language well but having really good tight integration between everything, or supporting a wider variety of languages but everything is kinda taped together haphazardly, unix is more the latter < 1379093756 409240 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just annoyed at rubygems and whatever working by downloading source. < 1379093798 385046 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. not my field. fuck computers. < 1379093879 220593 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is a biologist in #esoteric anyway??? < 1379093893 44063 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have an adamatzky fetish < 1379093952 550869 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that something to do with battlestar galactica < 1379093955 795241 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Bike wants all of the pain of CS without any of the money (;_;) < 1379093969 105934 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a ;_; in parens!! not a ;_; on a face < 1379093982 270965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be both, really < 1379093986 29428 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :((;_;)) < 1379094001 187315 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much do neuroethologists get paid... what do neuroethologists even do?? < 1379094015 423379 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well pretty soon i'm going to be a lab monkey < 1379094025 590628 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine it involves electrodes < 1379094031 953704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did you get one of the research jobs? < 1379094032 964758 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the money, and none of the pain because none of my supervisors and employers care about how bad my code is if it works < 1379094050 376166 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: interview today, but even if i don't get that one i'm pretty set on getting /a/ lab job < 1379094055 231129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, good luck < 1379094092 179261 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will probably involve simulating the activity of muscle proteins, but that's just a guess < 1379094507 829202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroethology < 1379094508 202348 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuroethology (from Greek ������ - neuron "nerve" and &��� - ethos "habit or custom") is the evolutionary and comparative approach to the study of animal behavior and its underlying mechanistic control by the nervous system. < 1379094542 403377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek language is weird. how in fungot can you utter a ½... < 1379094542 548676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there are several filter controls to set the system clock. < 1379094547 154287 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :&¸¿Â, yes < 1379094585 312103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurotheology < 1379094585 846522 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neurotheology, also known as spiritual neuroscience, attempts to explain religious experience and behaviour in neuroscientific terms. < 1379094590 591125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the. < 1379094593 470996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttants < 1379094599 808843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELP! < 1379094604 267115 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoid neuroetheology, hth. < 1379094618 342563 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow good misspelling. < 1379094634 597815 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroeology < 1379094634 899518 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094637 534459 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1379094667 111324 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there is neurology, if you like. < 1379094675 278178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was curious if neurotheology existed. it does. I am disturbed. < 1379094686 847971 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that great. < 1379094699 880922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a totally good and reasonable thing to study...................... < 1379094702 878149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a kind of dumb name < 1379094704 302985 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurogeriatology < 1379094704 635955 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094707 837612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew. < 1379094713 853365 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroscatology < 1379094714 217862 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094722 461433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuropathology < 1379094722 777592 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neuropathology is the study of disease of nervous system tissue, usually in the form of either small surgical biopsies or whole autopsy brains. < 1379094740 399705 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: most of what i know aboutit involves stupid arguments about how shocking one part of the brain making people more religious means something something dawkins fanboyism < 1379094745 444124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379094748 362882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care about any of that < 1379094759 913453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like a rationalistic view of the weird shit I've experienced on drugz < 1379094773 272157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it'll happen any time soon, though < 1379094782 299247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably Hard Problem complete < 1379094784 639019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurosociology < 1379094784 913103 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neurosociology is the application of neurobiology to the study of society. < 1379094789 464669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1379094803 94427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The more we know =P < 1379094803 981072 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this surprising people < 1379094813 170563 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"neuro-" is like "computational" in terms of sticking it in front of everything < 1379094822 891330 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is this/are these/ < 1379094831 719144 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: Maybe, I haven't met them yet < 1379094842 234588 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck computational neurology < 1379094842 531722 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094849 736826 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurology is doctoring < 1379094852 106341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Greek language is weird. how in fungot can you utter a ½... <-- you still haven't fixed that unicode bug? < 1379094852 301816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: preparatory routines: talk, a special reversed character appear in the < 1379094853 339481 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurocomputer < 1379094853 622333 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094855 666945 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck compoutational neuroscience < 1379094855 875384 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094858 506796 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neurocomputing < 1379094858 878930 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094862 230796 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :compoutineational < 1379094865 146424 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck reposotory < 1379094865 497639 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094878 142497 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but yeah most of this stuff seems like trying to understand the principles of word processor design by examining logic gates. < 1379094881 443348 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me. < 1379094882 740074 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck neuroprogramming < 1379094883 98577 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379094890 903206 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we stop with the ~duckspam < 1379094897 135671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? okay < 1379094898 798884 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic_engineering < 1379094899 158917 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379094899 492807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379094899 712328 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379094986 871047 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *LA LA LA* can't hear you through the encoding problems *LA LA LA* < 1379095005 302657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck duckspam < 1379095005 567849 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379095008 108409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379095018 462164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck spam < 1379095018 780018 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A trademark used for a canned meat product consisting primarily of chopped pork pressed into a loaf. < 1379095020 453791 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :COME ON < 1379095059 379704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck baloney < 1379095059 724716 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379095061 908419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1379095203 598087 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379095215 194479 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379095283 187441 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon, there will be no psychology topic i cannot gesticulate angrily about. MWA HA HA HA HA < 1379095302 860049 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1379095303 724321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep your gesticles in your pants, tia < 1379095315 905293 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that's going to fix your connection, but eh < 1379095326 700641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix your connection < 1379095334 307608 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a thought < 1379095342 762983 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Most things are < 1379095344 476584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would know < 1379095371 982732 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#wow #whoa < 1379095386 275775 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :such thought < 1379095389 813002 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :neurodoge < 1379095395 442583 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow wrong meme < 1379095399 554434 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the corner with you < 1379095406 985408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nope < 1379095455 482489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#balls < 1379095600 191769 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379095854 153285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized a couple of days back that every single IRC channel can be read as an hashtag < 1379095889 368257 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1379095903 706454 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about ##doublehashtagschannels < 1379095926 706037 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make hashtags about hashtags can't you < 1379095933 683474 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"Burdens are the foundations of ease, & bitter things the forerunners of pleasure" #Rumi #Spiritual #Quote #Esoteric #Mystic #Sufi #Wisdom» < 1379095959 16525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1379095968 464346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it gets even better when you think of the # channels < 1379095975 910852 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#Esoteric : If you keep presenting yourself as a slave, you are a slave because you obey < 1379095985 473202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because apparently, # is a valid channel name < 1379096003 533642 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hashtag nothing < 1379096004 14146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :# on freenode was crap last I went there, though < 1379096025 9625 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should We Consider the Symbolism of Monster Energy Drinks as Being Satanic? < 1379096042 61831 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is # a requirement of the protocol or of the servers? or just common practice? < 1379096050 189313 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means something specific < 1379096054 82989 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are also &channels and stuff < 1379096057 275327 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody cares though < 1379096082 482144 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I held a server on my computer? what if I cared? < 1379096084 482226 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#channels are network-wide, &channels are server-specific < 1379096094 61910 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's emphasis on this "I" as I put in in caps < 1379096094 871027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, they're required by the RFC, AFAIR < 1379096097 124256 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just said you don't care koen < 1379096136 859312 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if my name is nobody < 1379096138 440670 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick's "Eyes Wide Shut" < 1379096198 748810 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Illumine_Nation good < 1379096206 191978 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379096782 266544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1379096782 800490 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genius, n.: < 1379096782 945658 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A chemist who discovers a laundry additive that rhymes with "bright." < 1379096803 70225 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :soap fight < 1379096886 39509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :greco-roman extreme ironing. < 1379097872 408805 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379098307 285907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: apparently, # is indeed a valid channel name. but is it «#», or «##»? < 1379098321 25175 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just # < 1379098326 475947 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :## is yet another channel < 1379098403 774833 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. you, like, have, like, joined them all, like. < 1379098466 925421 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379098525 963493 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379098529 695439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to hang in # < 1379098532 348102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not anymore =P < 1379098556 858146 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379098590 185977 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I do tend to join # on every network I'm on < 1379098631 465908 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is # a thing? < 1379098641 362780 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is < 1379098705 749052 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a thing on most networks < 1379098715 328687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's banned on some =P < 1379098735 15232 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Coldfront just says "This channel may not be used" < 1379098968 186910 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379099004 200117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: trying out the various punctuational channels. I got autokicked from «_». < 1379099057 305683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379099061 466545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the server? < 1379099065 769462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so. < 1379099071 232604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and #% is invite only. < 1379099073 926916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379099074 750715 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379099237 257325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: say, try to join #¨. < 1379099286 366055 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal channel name =P < 1379099293 321413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeh... < 1379099312 76448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else who has a client that Accepts the Greatness of the Diæ̈resis? < 1379099325 813792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's the server who doesn't want to < 1379099330 900721 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][479] Roujo #¨ :Illegal channel name < 1379099422 185804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. and if you just «/join ¨»? < 1379099669 704692 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379099729 226254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That aliases to "join #¨" < 1379099741 550202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I "/quote join ¨"... < 1379099751 72098 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][479] Roujo ¨ :Illegal channel name < 1379099990 342541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ms-IFYNrjhU < 1379100030 172041 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379100259 866127 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :roujo: wat < 1379100276 278688 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Ask boily =P < 1379100462 83972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: listen to the thing. discuss with oerjan. < 1379100548 107873 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone give me a sensible terminal size to stream Dwarf Fortress with? < 1379100641 795054 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is dwarf fortress an ascii motion picture? < 1379100655 287159 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, it's an ANSI universe simulator < 1379100659 740298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 80 × 25 is not good? < 1379100669 167013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it probably is < 1379100698 579793 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it's a unicodified CP437 universe simulator, down to sweat drops and eyeball nerves. < 1379100754 555545 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm streaming Dwarf Fortress, telnet termcast.org < 1379100878 458320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1379101670 354213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379101740 728113 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have we got a stack-based language where there is one data stack, and the program is a list of instructions, with the first instruction dropped before it's executed? and some instructions allow to push a "next instruction" before the rest of the program in function of what's on top of the data stack? < 1379101759 347002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: underload? < 1379101760 428517 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload but slightly suckier < 1379101778 373748 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379101798 596443 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for so long I have resisted going into how underload works < 1379101829 880930 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy < 1379101854 14283 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you say < 1379101863 607844 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it even forms a monoid" < 1379101904 288236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when underload is monoidal? < 1379101916 695477 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i said so just now keep up motherfucker < 1379101917 539157 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't everything? < 1379101930 169804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I got from monads. They're like single gonads, really. < 1379101934 649587 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@host-224-58.dataart.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379102022 349956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION replaces Bike with a small semigroup
< 1379102314 340040 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379102398 499873 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379102412 325708 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379104190 688851 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379104427 851145 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: someone wants to see your dining room < 1379104439 719709 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why < 1379104444 733954 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn good question < 1379104849 258510 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379105697 695608 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1379105936 35537 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1379105986 653912 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379106506 186082 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379106550 587571 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379106552 712329 :mnoqy_!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net NICK :mnoqy < 1379106634 295732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: will you remonqy eventually, or are you mnoqy for the foreseeable future? < 1379106674 279394 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terminal i'm afraid < 1379107131 977188 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379108324 976175 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379109124 371499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379109813 238264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mbo1y/my_parents_dont_believe_in_btc_how_can_i_convince/cc7o88v < 1379109901 114934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes cyprus < 1379110033 383895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORK DOOOOONE! YEEEEES! < 1379110044 524361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fungotly hungry. < 1379110044 689495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to scroll the following: < 1379110055 593276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: foodening < 1379110060 456153 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379110064 831854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of scrolling < 1379110100 54214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, does anyone know about that thing where you use commodity GPUs to do subsupercomputing? fiora? < 1379110191 180666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsupercomputing? < 1379110210 692931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :supercomputing on the cheap, basically. < 1379110219 578174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka computing < 1379110219 957985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know a few small things < 1379110224 845437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's just opencl stuff. but i don't know any of that. < 1379110233 323745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPGPU is a general term used here < 1379110236 989685 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks phantom, that was the joke < 1379110245 699977 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not very "super" if it's also "cheap" < 1379110247 691963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"general-purpose graphical processing unit"? < 1379110256 569020 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ? < 1379110281 953509 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you (fiora) linked a paper once about breaking crypto using commodity GPUs or something < 1379110285 41365 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know. kinda high right now < 1379110295 6689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for you < 1379110300 834383 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :high as a bike < 1379110301 865564 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. I know a little but like what about it < 1379110309 807478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just anything < 1379110317 626631 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@_@ that's kind of vague < 1379110317 772319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's kind of vague < 1379110319 271703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know >_> < 1379110327 670928 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am the eternal noob. < 1379110350 10697 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like um what do you want to know >_< < 1379110352 843871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did anyone say anything interesting since this morning? < 1379110353 31441 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 120 print nam tab(25) " total" 120 for t=0 to 1 depends on the tape at a time. the book. if corresponding bits of color ram. the < 1379110436 643001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'll just take that as a "maybe"... write funnier things? < 1379110436 856842 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: if the number at the next available location in the middle of variable storage area. therefore, this register. the < 1379110447 133471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the < 1379110656 515816 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-205-141.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379111146 522080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should just jack a gpu and write fibonacci in opencl or whatever shit < 1379111146 667317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's "hello world" for that < 1379111382 115531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1379111383 778807 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1379111450 849508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1379111465 542453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm noticing progressively more advertising getting through adblock+... < 1379111583 66110 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode POO < 1379111584 695323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'POO'" < 1379111595 577898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE OF POO < 1379111597 305832 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode PILE < 1379111597 538311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'PILE OF POO'" < 1379111598 946296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'PILE'" < 1379111611 91145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i thought that was it for sure < 1379111616 689640 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1379111619 645076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it is... is it not in the db? < 1379111629 497780 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode U+1F4A9 < 1379111631 60768 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'U+1F4A9'" < 1379111636 945193 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 1F4A9 < 1379111638 212709 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name '1F4A9'" < 1379111638 753193 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode just takes a char name < 1379111641 102525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a codepoint < 1379111641 348220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'just takes a char name'" < 1379111646 622179 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look shut up HackEgo < 1379111667 705002 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's exploitable < 1379111677 635123 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1379111687 485237 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would it be exploitable < 1379111719 796577 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python bug? < 1379111768 646303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey did you all see http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/09/ask-sucuri-non-alphanumeric-backdoors.html non-alphanumeric php backdoor shell < 1379111783 826270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is esoprogramming for sure < 1379111792 216487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep saying that exploits are weaponized esoprogramming... < 1379111813 437131 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Since you wanted it so much... )) 💨💩 < 1379111961 620021 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it involves PHP... do I really want to see? < 1379111969 427857 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379111989 505311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@$_[]=@!+_; $__=@${_}>>$_;$_[]=$__;$_[]=@_;$_[((++$__)+($__++ ))].=$_; $_[]=++$__; $_[]=$_[--$__][$__>>$__];$_[$__].=(($__+$__)+ $_[$__-$__]).($__+$__+$__)+$_[$__-$__]; $_[$__+$__] =($_[$__][$__>>$__]).($_[$__][$__]^$_[$__][($__<<$__)-$__] ); $_[$__+$__] .=($_[$__][($__<<$__)-($__/$__)])^($_[$__][$__] ); < 1379111989 656301 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1379111996 590651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there now you have seen it whether you want to or not < 1379112014 581326 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, luckily Haskell is not susceptible to the same backdoors < 1379112018 461084 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's code to run a shell (takes arbitrary calls to do from GET) < 1379112021 543449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/IZrScxv.jpg < 1379112034 190266 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc are you hacking our aim?? < 1379112038 27216 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hecking < 1379112038 971547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :little bitty bit < 1379112040 46135 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible typo < 1379112045 894999 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*heckling? < 1379112050 631007 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hecking < 1379112051 723150 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's definitely hecking < 1379112060 567247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you heckle an aim < 1379112066 130961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aim heckles itself < 1379112070 175871 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. I always thought it was heckling < 1379112117 538856 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Someone probably reared that train < 1379112146 896133 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379112159 986010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lolololol < 1379112300 982765 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a suitably limited version of PHP could make a nice esolang < 1379112352 886240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nests iframes 50 deep
< 1379112359 980646 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, and where except make is @ a prefix to suspend output? < 1379112368 84611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*except make and PHP < 1379112375 498702 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in PHP it suspends errors, I think... < 1379112399 664123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think most (non-IE) browsers limit iframes to about 9 deep < 1379112415 414739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1379112426 922536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: DOS batch files I think < 1379112441 896460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried infintely nested iframes and everyone was fine except oerjan whose browser crashed < 1379112467 437681 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379112481 732845 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379112507 732953 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hmm, maybe... < 1379112511 890280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the origin of @ as a silencing/error-suppressing prefix? < 1379112542 449778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shape represents your errors spiraling into a black hole < 1379112581 534162 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :'@', pronounced slurp < 1379112998 681701 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-205-141.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379113278 275110 :nooodl!~nooodl@127.180-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379113465 77891 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ doesn't look like slurping < 1379113683 188457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379113960 100929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll have to agree to disagree < 1379113963 42848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey zzo38, how's it going < 1379113989 388586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379113993 268998 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use @ to suppress errors because @ is perfect and never has errors! < 1379114015 779493 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1379114055 47497 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give me that look... that... smell < 1379114077 651122 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::@) < 1379114130 455126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just wait a few minute please < 1379114133 581837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will answer in a bit later < 1379114140 174706 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1379114140 319882 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 4d 1h 46m 36s ago: ♪moof♪ you have quotes! < 1379114159 387945 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What quotes is that? < 1379114160 11719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379114175 691314 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily added your quotes to the pdf in the topic < 1379114538 844440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NancyReaganMrTChristmas1983.jpg < 1379114539 781992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Elvis-nixon.jpg < 1379114702 946786 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :NancyReagenMrTChristmas1983.jpg is definitely up there in terms of good filenames < 1379114712 341287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ae. < 1379114738 537067 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good files too < 1379115090 191581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379115192 877252 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379115665 532656 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379115837 809601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made some levels of "Attribute Zone" game in QBASIC (I don't have it here right now though); later I intend to put in Famicom, since the game mechanics are based on the limitations of the Famicom PPU. < 1379115927 571411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good premise for a game < 1379116006 738163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there are other games like that. < 1379116039 586353 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the platonic spirit of platformer characters must get through the platonic platformer game < 1379116062 548063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whilst fighting planktonic spirits < 1379116076 691744 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrifying imo < 1379116109 434185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I do not understand you. < 1379116150 347474 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither,man. me neither. < 1379116196 195898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a platonic platformer game is either. < 1379116212 837879 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'know, world of forms < 1379116271 767603 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379116346 169749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Attribute Zone" is not platformer game though. < 1379116716 191425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379117498 211574 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379117899 877177 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379117901 745635 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379118001 431159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379118197 593 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379118506 594282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now instruction of Uselessness RPG 1 includes limit commands. They are: mangan, haneman, baiman, sanbaiman, yakuman. < 1379118615 782236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1379118618 311053 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1379118631 957269 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many more characters does `list have left anyway < 1379118641 585125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :many < 1379118673 312838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the maximum message lengt < 1379118673 980192 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1379118738 379492 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :many < 1379118918 868286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the both of you < 1379119446 228138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379124240 693746 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been told that Matlab code is like C. It does not seem very much like C. < 1379124293 498225 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrays starting at 1 < 1379124294 948206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1379124300 146860 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1379124357 821465 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far differences include: no variable declarations, no types, vectored assignment, newline instead of semicolon, comment character different... < 1379124400 538287 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like lua!! < 1379124410 815657 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :matlab is just like lua < 1379124423 962204 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a great way to ruin any language that you're afraid might be at risk of being well-liked < 1379124429 375385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and procedural code at the top level. < 1379124466 912613 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory dijkstra: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD831.html < 1379124502 892723 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dijkstra's smugness is so adorable < 1379124545 515196 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume this involves BASIC being compared to lua < 1379124558 839070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, is this really a thing he wrote. < 1379124560 164381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a dork. < 1379124563 806905 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt he would acknowledge lua even if it existed at the time < 1379124579 721842 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/ewd08xx/EWD831.PDF for the full experience < 1379124645 732520 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, mesa. haven't heard of that for a while. < 1379124650 546583 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not reading more djistkra!! < 1379124672 706983 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same dijkstra. just with more handwriting. < 1379124784 795917 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha the conclusion < 1379124786 107395 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an ass < 1379124952 229912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BASIC is not bad for some things. < 1379125125 346634 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Smalltalk make more sense than Lua as a language to start indexing at 1, considering Lua was supposed to play nice with C and Smalltalk had other goals? < 1379125173 601316 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other goals like ??not following the superior convention?? < 1379125192 638643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you have it sgeo, you're objectively wrong. sorry about that < 1379125197 543776 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goals that didn't especially involve playing nice with C < 1379125261 577866 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, no matter how good/bad indexing at 1 is, is it worse in Lua than it is in Smalltalk? < 1379125300 82160 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the ol' shittometer... yes, it is worse in lua. < 1379125344 312699 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379126267 303971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In QBASIC you can start arrays with whatever integer number you want to. < 1379126503 416335 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore you can have some arrays starting at zero, and some starting at one; sometimes it is useful to have starting with other numbers too. < 1379126525 705820 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too bad that it doesn't allow RETURN to a label inside of a subroutine; you can use that only outside of a subroutine. < 1379127466 122037 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379127526 492796 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-afzzmuyidpcamzqq QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1379127641 603958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do often use GOSUB inside of a SUB or FUNCTION routine though; you can share the scope of the subroutine it is inside of, and/or make fall-through labels. < 1379128110 592236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379128178 823911 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1379131002 198606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LYSP doesn't compile in my computer; I get error message about not "dlfcn.h", implicit declaration of "dlsym" and "dlopen", unrecognized "-rdynamic", etc < 1379131235 690935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the dynamic stuff I can remove, but still it says implicit declaration of "sbrk"; what is "sbrk"? < 1379131458 7227 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk or "set break" basically lets you expand the heap. < 1379131465 817193 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's used by some mallocs. < 1379131508 888502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program is defining its own malloc function < 1379131538 510597 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, that'd be where it's used. < 1379131543 559289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to implement garbage collection. < 1379131575 672545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is, but what is done with it if the program is using such thing but if it won't work? < 1379131596 179113 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1379131611 130461 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk is POSIX. < 1379131616 148394 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly I'm not sure why. < 1379131701 348659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly is it doing, and can it be imitated by another way if necessary? < 1379131777 314676 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :You certainly have sbrk. < 1379131806 665057 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. Windows. < 1379131825 799641 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how'd you implement that on Windows... < 1379131852 514395 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. In traditional Unix the heap is done via a "program break". Basically, a pointer to the end of heap. Everything below that is heap you can access. < 1379131861 568591 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk moves that pointer. < 1379131930 870230 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be unsurprised to find that LYSP could just use malloc instead. < 1379131945 381221 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't say for certain, but s/sbrk/malloc/ *ought* to work? < 1379132112 592310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1379132125 428112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like the type is correct at least < 1379132133 748772 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends pretty heavily on what properties of sbrk they rely upon. < 1379132163 95934 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For simple uses the two are identical except that sbrk means you can't use libc functions anymore. < 1379132184 422803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does look like used in a way that malloc might work. < 1379132211 524719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What properties would there be? < 1379132239 707710 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pointer returned by sbrk is always contiguous with the previous one. < 1379132265 721208 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk(0) returns the last pointer it returned. < 1379132296 935743 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk with a negative number moves the program break *back*, basically freeing some number of bytes. < 1379132333 241429 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this is to say, malloc is not always a drop-in replacement for sbrk, but it might be in this case. < 1379132339 525829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :From your description it seems it would be contiguous, but the program doesn't seem to use negative numbers, or zero; it only uses sbrk once, and uses as a pointer to a structure. < 1379132349 770892 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only once? < 1379132365 999018 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the program being wrong then. malloc. < 1379132371 222124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, just once. < 1379132392 737105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does check if the return value is negative one, though. < 1379132398 302607 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1379132414 146283 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sbrk returns -1 on failure, rather than NULL. < 1379132430 794824 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the program it seems if malloc is put there, then it should be checking if NULL. < 1379132446 400999 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, from how you've described it that is the case. < 1379133680 405988 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379133988 520722 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tag: The Power of Paint: The power of crashing on what is probably the final level and save games don't exist. < 1379134323 330292 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does the genesis store its sprites in a sort of linked list < 1379134433 301037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dare i ask how you make a "sort of" linked list < 1379134475 660741 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in VRAM < 1379134540 887820 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a list of 64/80/128??? sprites in the VRAM < 1379134550 102810 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts drawing sprite 0 < 1379134570 781906 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that sprite has a "link" to next sprite to draw in its info < 1379134604 424644 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :traversal of that sprite info proceeds until a sprite links back to sprite 0 < 1379134620 876715 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link field is 7 bits < 1379134640 774397 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however there's a maximum of 64 or 80 sprites depending on the video mode < 1379134661 483285 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(80 sprites in 320x240 mode, 64 sprites in 256x240 mode) < 1379134667 979518 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hecks < 1379134840 650484 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sprites are drawn in front to back order so changing how your sprites are linked will change which ones come up on top < 1379134920 736687 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379135030 732004 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379135177 706586 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think it goes through the whole linked list of sprites on each scanline < 1379136072 741567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1379137957 709775 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379137964 406516 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379137980 216837 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379138903 858162 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379144358 117054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379144647 555342 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379144652 895144 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379145175 419816 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379145196 742713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379145309 282270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 918 < 1379145311 72910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 918: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379145334 59369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(repeated for the idlers) < 1379145334 620528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't you already `olist? < 1379145339 310005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1379145348 650395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no one seemed to be present. < 1379145436 461361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sort of made it less satisfying. < 1379145506 730287 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379145548 964995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily since when underload is monoidal? <-- well, it is. < 1379145549 110509 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379145645 706682 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379145858 463521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen bike < 1379145862 998582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-14 04:57:47: what the hecks < 1379145903 926027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good closing words. < 1379146220 180665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379146811 766225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner so what's the origin of @ as a silencing/error-suppressing prefix? <-- i vaguely recall MSDOS batch language had it. @ECHO OFF was the command to silence following commands automatically. < 1379146811 911758 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379146875 942908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner What it silenced (both @ and the ECHO OFF) iirc was the automatical printing of the command run < 1379146876 126334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379146950 850621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell olsner no idea if MSDOS was first. < 1379146950 996378 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379150503 417363 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1379150609 122054 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, @echo off, I remember that < 1379150668 98472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry, it is impossible that anyone else in the channel could be old enough. you must be mistaken. < 1379150688 433012 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1379150972 419098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that btiggins guy. he's, like, precambrian. from when they called it the precambrian. < 1379150999 906877 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit funny how dos seems sooo old, but unix doesn't even though it's actually much older < 1379151210 357746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it seems the word precambrian is still used. and windows 8's terminal window still supports @echo off . < 1379151233 207451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed to disable the prompting. < 1379151279 165012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, the hadean is the best eon name. < 1379151285 725063 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379151325 471601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Precambrian accounts for 88% of geologic time. < 1379151422 321602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but there was no one around who cared < 1379151592 778387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make is older than MS-DOS. Not that I know how early in the history of Make the @ prefix appeared. < 1379152048 484051 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this @ prefix discussion was also happening 11 hours ago when i quit < 1379152072 154512 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining it has been going on all that time, heatedly < 1379152104 45497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: i'm afraid i just restarted it by logreading < 1379152137 749143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1379152140 327565 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1379152552 192027 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379152668 624212 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the very first version of make appears to have @ too < 1379152808 787780 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379153000 730031 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379153967 293518 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379156762 276601 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379156819 921249 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379157070 588323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnörðurinn < 1379159396 875767 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379159491 950852 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379160236 671077 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379160640 364446 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379160873 450263 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1379161121 38867 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379162011 186335 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379162077 921912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379162694 479358 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379162717 730764 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379162717 876281 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379162717 876421 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379163259 297896 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379163853 137898 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379163874 746325 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379163874 891983 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379163874 892114 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379164414 886759 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379164994 990954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379165527 124819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have (1) new google document waiting" "click here" "http://www.banyuak.ac.th/googledoc.php" yeaaah. < 1379165553 808991 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379165716 545379 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, .ac.th is "academic" but banyuak doesn't seem to be a thing < 1379165798 10888 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a 404, nice scam < 1379170046 992776 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379170059 691912 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy for Israel & usa ??? < 1379170059 837821 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? < 1379170059 837987 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ < 1379170059 838106 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy for Israel & usa ??? < 1379170059 838209 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? < 1379170059 983608 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ < 1379170059 983774 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy for Israel & usa ??? < 1379170060 918497 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? < 1379170061 63915 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ < 1379170061 880081 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do skype,yahoo,other chat and social communication prog (facebook&twitter) spy for Israel & usa ??? < 1379170062 25569 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they record and analyse everything we type on the internet??? < 1379170062 926221 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 PRIVMSG #esoteric :هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ < 1379170063 693564 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379170067 771080 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1379170107 185375 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379170113 412016 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379170136 418465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck < 1379170141 780116 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379170145 663841 :hsdiuf8whfkjahfw!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 NICK :twye76qercsahdfc < 1379170145 809483 :twye76qercsahdfc!~hvbeuveig@197.123.34.70 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379170157 347893 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've seen this bot before < 1379170167 191223 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty good < 1379170253 86234 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the timestamps messed up for anyone else?? < 1379170257 622694 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1379170258 351304 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:47:39 هل تتجسس برامج الشات و التواصل الاجتماعى لاسرائيل و امريكا؟؟؟؟ < 1379170261 593499 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379170269 311718 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's putty's fault or something < 1379170270 396168 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that fucks up a bunch of mac clients < 1379170275 259807 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should avoid it < 1379170283 934863 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is there that unicode stuff in there? < 1379170287 534269 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's invisible here :/ < 1379170287 859659 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379170294 808727 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1379170304 625525 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't seem to affect anyone in here < 1379170309 978154 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pointing it out :) < 1379170470 938836 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379170880 271160 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell hsdiuf8whfkjahfw yes < 1379170880 454618 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379171097 567429 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your client can't grok right-to-left Unicode, too fucking bad. < 1379171111 853355 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of this "you should avoid it" crap. < 1379171115 856844 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should get a non-shit client. < 1379171147 237686 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: there was some OS X/iOS bug where it crashes the client recently. < 1379171160 973514 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not a client-specific bug, as far as I understand) < 1379171165 605896 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the more reason to use it. < 1379171193 989587 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, well, I got bored of being an asshole to people on the internet for no reason. < 1379171218 489645 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/for no reason/because they use the wrong OS/ :) < 1379171364 178851 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379171725 673936 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379171736 241 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anything, OSX has the best text rendering and internationalization support of any OS < 1379171741 165768 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has a bug, which has now been fixed < 1379171753 673657 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not everyone has upgraded, and assholes go from channel to channel trying to crash people < 1379172081 847237 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the text say? < 1379172101 988865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arabic i mean. < 1379174984 555188 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379175016 708381 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379175730 408271 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: Yeah, it definitely is true that OS X has the best text rendering and i18n. < 1379175791 2208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379176077 471051 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people say the fully feature-enabled freetype has better text rendering < 1379176099 634761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know people complain that fonts look fat on OS X < 1379177222 920490 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379178030 923736 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379180117 129980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Program your client to filter Arabic texts or disable Unicode support, if necessary < 1379180180 457828 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can’t stand OSX’s blurry style of text rendering. It’s fine when we finally have 300 DPI screens, but you just have to use hinting with 100 DPI screens for it not to be blurry. < 1379180200 386473 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you use screen fonts instead? < 1379180354 700791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use antialiased text on my computer < 1379181003 605095 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proper subpixel antialiasing makes text rendering *sharper* than what 1-bit bitmaps can achieve on LCDs. < 1379181035 976614 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it can make it sharper < 1379181078 121077 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSX doesn't antialias text < 1379181132 697739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is subpixel antialiasing it can make it sharper < 1379181340 188745 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Windows is horribly blurry as well < 1379181361 45984 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I like the way fonts look on Linux < 1379181647 80211 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason such bugs in Arabic rendering is introduced is because Unicode is stupid < 1379182240 468189 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379182252 357641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379182385 126467 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone willing to help me Verilog? < 1379182424 55770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you doing with Verilog though? < 1379182484 405664 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to write a module that converts a 4-bit bus into an 8-bit ssd bus. < 1379182525 197172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a ssd bus is. < 1379182575 695100 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379182583 981036 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seven-segment display. it doesn't really matter, the point is i'm trying to write a map. < 1379182589 578059 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379182592 77634 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1379182604 590910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I apparently can't have a case on top level or something? I don't even know. < 1379182620 458766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know much of Verilog, but I think there is a "primitive" block for defining custom primitive gates? < 1379182641 839590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you can call it inside of a module like you can call other modules < 1379182652 55110 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, putting an always removed those errors... < 1379182679 911291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "always" is for defining clock edge events, I think < 1379182755 121299 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think having an empty sensitivity block makes it independent of any edge. < 1379182820 103289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it can only drive registers though. I'll see. < 1379182841 389784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read somewhere about "primitive" block; did you try that? < 1379182852 739177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: basically there are two sorts of commands in VHDL/Verilog < 1379182889 472727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ones that run continuously (like assign), and ones that only run in processes (like if) < 1379182897 92267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379182898 141683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an always with no sensitivity is typically a bad thing, it only runs once < 1379182904 524668 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shit. < 1379182908 869658 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i do this then? < 1379182910 996095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :("always" was probably an unfortunate choice of name) < 1379182927 715676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't be using case, you should be using the appropriate keyword for continuous running < 1379182934 220829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in VHDL it's when, but I'm not sure what it is in Verilog < 1379182945 688024 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want this module (trying out modularity here) to output 11000000 given 0000, 11111001 given 0001, that sort of thing < 1379182964 586975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all constant but not very arithmetic < 1379182966 566194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also just define each bit as the logic gates individually I suppose < 1379182981 116142 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :geh, i'd really rather not, but i could. < 1379182991 463761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in VHDL that's Q <= '11000000' when A = '0000' else '11111001' when A = '0001' else … < 1379182996 42179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with better indentation < 1379183002 627261 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i can do that for now though :( < 1379183009 167083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that doesn't fit well on IRC) < 1379183019 508975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, you define an array, then index the array < 1379183032 972748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had different ideas of what I wanted in hardware programming language, so I called it "HWPL" < 1379183045 984727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Do you know of "primitive" block in Verilog? Would that help? < 1379183046 344717 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll just mail my ta, he knows verilog pretty well < 1379183110 13465 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could define a macro that converts the mapping into logic assignments, except the macros suck ass < 1379183142 9340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really the clearest way to do it is the array method, I think, but I have no idea what that looks like in Verilog < 1379183160 686447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the when/else chain is entirely reasonable and will synthesize correctly, though < 1379183172 111194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the commands almost certainly exist in Verilog, I just don't know what they're called < 1379183193 85613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't see why you wouldn't just use a module < 1379183198 816685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you that annoyed at having to give it a name? < 1379183250 919521 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1379183472 256957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, i guess i'll write something in another language to make verilog code for me. again. < 1379184715 615519 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist [s] < 1379184718 129771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist [s]: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379184936 280022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That isn't what I meant < 1379185037 518305 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379185147 111530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379185177 239218 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1379185828 764817 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379185863 192327 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379186106 191267 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :freefull: Yeah, FreeType’s full hinting does the right thing for today’s low-resolution displays. ClearType™ is worse and the rendering in OSX is even worse. < 1379186327 147473 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379186588 996545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379187006 170191 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379187768 970083 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always found FreeType's default hinting annoyingly spindly. < 1379187912 343828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think better would be to use screen fonts (fix pitch low resolution bitmap fonts); if you require to use same font for screen and print, then you can prerender them into a bitmap font instead, using an external program. < 1379188228 713067 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter's no different from just using a font rendering library... < 1379188354 560719 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think prerendering them would be better though, so the program can expect use with screen fonts instead, and you can change their prerendering externally too < 1379188387 286595 :benludi!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379188388 242038 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379188412 386448 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am really, really bad at verilog < 1379188436 431199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think I am that good at it either really < 1379188475 482467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're better at it than me. Because I don't know anything about Verilog. < 1379188495 86435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, why are you saying this thing that you have said < 1379188538 817745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"segs0[7] in unit module_test is connected to the following multiple drivers" like, what < 1379188599 225151 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have segs0 being the target of an instantiated module, and that module jjust assigns [7] to 1! < 1379188671 827086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would do it in "HWPL" by making a "ROM" block, but that is only ideas I write about, not a programming language with existing implementation < 1379188749 789308 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my stupid ide does shit like say that the module is empty instead of that it's full of errors < 1379188749 934443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379188781 769950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379188781 915114 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hate this ide and compiler, also < 1379188787 606137 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whine whine whine < 1379188857 33802 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ide and compiler are you using? Can you use a better one? < 1379188869 895161 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't. < 1379188958 554666 :benludi!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379189003 772471 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does weird shit like check syntax when i save a file. < 1379189494 818394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "multiple drivers" mean you connected it to two things < 1379189498 242050 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379189499 244999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it's only supposed to be connected to one < 1379189506 3975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i think i figured it out. < 1379189510 154929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the problem isn't with the thing you meant to connect it to < 1379189515 322953 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's with the thing you didn't mean to connect it to < 1379189521 601538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had wire [7:0] segs0 = 8'b0; but i didn't need to initialize it. i was thinking of it like a reg. < 1379189580 702916 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379189639 117312 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about Verilog? < 1379189644 573163 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1379189673 669644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant wires are typically not what you meant to do < 1379189676 569095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's working now, in which case i'll have done my first particularly substantial verilog design < 1379189693 662628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, i see that now. i had it as a reg before and tried to have a lower module output to it, which is not how things work < 1379189713 515589 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking too soon, ayep < 1379189744 220975 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379189748 351023 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Verilog even esoteric? < 1379189757 397396 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just asking < 1379189757 780963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol it got all the way to bitgen before telling me i forgot to drive an output < 1379189763 563995 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's very esoteric < 1379189775 822907 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear god someone sent me memoserv mesages < 1379189852 182222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's because not driving an output is entirely legit < 1379189854 736269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a little pointless < 1379189864 125556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most FPGAs are entirely capable of just not connecting the output < 1379189876 453796 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not mine, apparently? < 1379189897 425466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in that case that's why it didn't notice until bitgen < 1379189909 335138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :previous stages didn't know what sort of FPGA you were using < 1379189912 697220 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, ok < 1379190068 659198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, it's actually working. :D < 1379190085 952835 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, mostly. < 1379190776 986019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i am awesome. bow before me. < 1379191034 118797 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bowing down* < 1379191043 546150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight < 1379191073 918028 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i wrote a thing that displays the value input on the switches as hex on the display) < 1379191129 191514 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sky is the limit for me, clearly. < 1379191206 682043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379191228 121141 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone programming False here? < 1379191339 766262 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... Brainfuck then? -_- < 1379191348 504125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s1: I haven't programmed either for a while < 1379191355 662280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from some quick BF in response to a question earlier < 1379191359 33593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome s1 < 1379191361 232619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :s1: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1379191361 856457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've programmed False ever, actually < 1379191373 161682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I'm disappointed at the lack of esodiscussion here < 1379191379 10286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're off topic a lot of the time, just so you know, not that we don't still talk about esolangs sometimes. i'm sure ais can- yep there we go < 1379191398 464903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I left the channel because of the lack of offtopic discussion < 1379191434 532751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, lack of ontopic < 1379191443 213715 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I hope it isn't regarded with dislike if I share some BF. < 1379191457 478735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, nobody can reasonably dislike that (unless it's really bad BF) < 1379191463 253465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what they'll mostly do is just ignore it :( < 1379191468 967954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than talk about it like good little #esoteric denziens < 1379191474 339702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look at it, though < 1379191476 230538 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺) < 1379191484 165707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, BF is easier to write than to read < 1379191510 385968 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true that < 1379191540 358024 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programmed Wolframs universe yesterday. (It's called that, right?) Anyone interested? < 1379191556 979379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you mean by that < 1379191574 749941 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "rule [number]" CA things? < 1379191627 163637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing machines are a better fit for BF than cellular automata < 1379191639 142060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering how easy the 2,3 thing would be to make in BF < 1379191759 740686 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really rule [number] < 1379191788 570432 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379191802 959980 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry, didn't find english version: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/EIDU-9_Wolframs_1-dimensionales_Universum.jpg < 1379191824 972166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cellular automaton < 1379191873 718233 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379191926 312001 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. But no rule whatever thing. Interested in BF code? < 1379191985 976176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's worth posting, I think < 1379191992 572557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though probably nobody would read it < 1379191999 749988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be worth linking it from the wiki, then probably someone would read it < 1379192007 482668 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not immediately, but a few months from now < 1379192113 194781 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11001067/Wolframuniversum.b < 1379192129 827291 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changed the comments to english in last minute, hope grammar is good ;) < 1379192196 54571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's really readable for BF < 1379192243 662232 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww what a compliment thx ^^ < 1379192310 158196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty nice and simple way to do an if statement < 1379192321 368359 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what line? < 1379192322 816946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think I could probably improve my a>b again based on it < 1379192331 587766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18, 24 < 1379192339 123657 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one moment i have a BF file < 1379192382 61269 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for AB < 1379192409 562078 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the runtime is bad. I wanted to use as few cells as possible < 1379192475 648700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192478 309330 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1379192483 198188 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++>+++++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192483 766550 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :H < 1379192488 364417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, screwed it up as usual < 1379192493 827415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never get it right the first time :( < 1379192540 392618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, same mistake as last time, too :) < 1379192550 3066 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about? < 1379192551 160968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++>+++++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<-<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192558 331288 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379192562 269178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379192607 207346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++>+++++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<-<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192607 740513 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379192614 530122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++>+++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<-<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192615 19294 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1379192617 205977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1379192620 624375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++>++++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<-<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192621 160847 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379192627 266106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++++++>++++++<[->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<-<]>>>++++++++[->++++++++<]>. < 1379192627 700074 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1379192644 144951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that's simpler than my last one or not < 1379192673 250040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the record, [->>+<[->[-]>+<<]>[->>+<<]>[-<<+>>]<<-<] is the less than < 1379192708 183091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379192743 188570 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379192818 983444 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I suggest that I try to understand your code, while you look at mine. < 1379192820 230015 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11001067/COMP%20kleiner%20gr%C3%B6%C3%9Fer%20gleich.b < 1379192894 358224 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume your last code was the most up to date. < 1379192947 10632 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just different tests of the same program < 1379192949 680664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm putting it on the wiki ow < 1379192952 146185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1379193017 882439 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, my code only uses THREE cells to calculate AB. But as I said, the runtime is horrific. < 1379193304 307004 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :here we go, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#z_.3D_x_.E2.89.A5_y < 1379193307 826827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that explanation is clearer < 1379193309 704250 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379193348 350256 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably ought to fix that typo < 1379193362 961655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which typo? < 1379193368 121409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lopo' for 'loop' < 1379193400 765118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1379194067 963249 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379194254 765947 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this magic that google.com is doing on Google Chrome where the search field is the address bar and there's no search field on the page? < 1379194356 911764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to teach people to not have to go to Google to search, I guess < 1379194364 181593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic i'm not seeing < 1379194369 814311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vertical integration is the best isn't it < 1379194611 25028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was confused when it happened at first =P < 1379194633 923191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not happening for me < 1379194672 743752 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1379194680 900137 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only seems to happen when searching from address bar for me < 1379194683 472603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have to be using Google™ brand Google Chrome™? < 1379194717 370192 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know, but that's what I'm using < 1379194763 312872 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict you have something turned on in chrome://flags. < 1379194768 352248 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are using a non-stable version < 1379194788 292742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/search?q=Test&oq=test&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i60l2j0l3.1442j0&sourceid=chrome&espv=2&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 < 1379194791 315725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw it's extremely confusing that Firefox has a thing called "chrome" (and even a chrome:// protocol, I think) that has nothing to do with (and predates) Google Chrome < 1379194802 428626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The espv=2 seems to be important to triggering it < 1379194804 871898 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, "Enable Instant Extended API" < 1379194828 927843 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that URL briefly shows without the search field for me and then it appears when it fully loads < 1379194854 601638 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I have that option, it's set to default, but now at least I know what it's called < 1379194863 216013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that does sound like an apt description < 1379194903 693554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this some publically described API? I .. hope so, but < 1379194958 584837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be that it's not-existant on the Linux version < 1379195034 771770 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Search-Experiment-Removes-the-Search-Box-in-Chrome-Screenshots-332953.shtml < 1379195043 128268 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Windows. < 1379195049 668152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1379195085 203669 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the alternative is OS X. < 1379195087 792424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The company has said that it will open up the APIs to other search providers though." < 1379195101 451941 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the new browser wars? < 1379195114 73791 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unstandard APIs that are only supported by one browser at first? < 1379195133 13282 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm sorry, have you done any web dev in the past like decade < 1379195143 260004 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always shit. < 1379195147 486845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never changes. < 1379195154 898682 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no need to put a time limit qualifier on it at all, really < 1379195178 604067 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But to continue doing it, even knowing how much pain it's caused < 1379195202 707962 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you heard of capitalism. < 1379195262 473528 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"no" < 1379195386 16239 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the API documented anywhere? :/ < 1379195411 153518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :web dev is way nicer now than a decade ago < 1379195422 988207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you were like 8 years old a decade ago < 1379195433 676385 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was 8 years old and doing web dev actually < 1379195437 892780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379195438 818467 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1379195441 292120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes there is a new browser war of the same sort as the old one with IE < 1379195455 145620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intro to The Tangled Web says as much < 1379195462 682544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Firefox and Chrome are competing to see who can screw up faster? < 1379195477 472427 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just nonsense to suggest browsers ever stopped implementing stuff on their own without asking, except insofar as they stopped implementing stuff at all. < 1379195504 113901 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379195512 731043 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379195515 885705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right < 1379195756 697614 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a Best Viewed With ViolaWWW button < 1379195792 83675 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, the ide doesn't even do Home right. this is ridiculous < 1379195905 285990 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379195906 948929 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379195989 179758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379195997 745320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bais < 1379196378 193629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379196439 725768 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379196690 844436 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did the conversation come back to brainfuck again after I left? < 1379196752 808351 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :logs in the topic (i say this because i forget) < 1379197252 879015 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379197450 592806 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379197901 162445 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379198194 694844 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379198283 130672 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379198426 738742 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379198437 838653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379198618 926960 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379198635 943508 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On a distant planet called Dakkam, a scientist named Hektu comes to believe that the sun going nova would destroy his world. In a last effort to save his family, he and his wife, Soja, have an infant son named Wundarr, whom they plan to save from their world's destruction. They place him aboard a ship that is able to maintain his life support as long as necessary, and then launch him into outer space. Hektu and Soja later make flight and are < 1379198642 171885 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :captured and executed by the Internal Security Force to prevent them from alarming the populace. It is later found out that Hektu's apocalyptic prediction is incorrect, and that he sent his son away for nothing." < 1379198948 900627 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379199039 876322 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379200132 271625 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379200303 73465 :s1!57b9b80d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.185.184.13 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379200432 402264 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1379200448 922719 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379200575 536323 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still love the fact that in Perl you could change a variable to change what arrays started at < 1379200577 355970 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter how bad it turned out in practice < 1379200604 974789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :QBASIC can also change what array start at by the OPTION BASE command, but only 0 or 1 < 1379200622 489181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define individual arrays to start at whatever you want, though, and that can be useful < 1379200791 995595 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379200892 719429 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume many programs were sabotoged by setting $[ to things like 43979 < 1379201012 665598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it is < 1379205089 275385 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379205127 728972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster: In Pascal you choose what an array starts at for every array you make < 1379205162 572138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can have one array whose indexes go from 3 to 6, and another one whose indexes go from 'c' to 'A' < 1379205179 274550 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, make that 'A' to 'c' < 1379205184 490785 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexes that start at strings? That's wonderful < 1379205211 429519 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet the're just char bytes in disguise, though < 1379205239 911771 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconmaster: In Pascal it's hard to tell a Char and a single-character String apart < 1379205280 551756 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they have different types and behaviour, the syntax for making one is the same < 1379205319 42339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think arrays can be indexed by strings though, AFAIK they can only be indexed by enums < 1379205353 467484 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written any Pascal in a while < 1379205408 789787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int array_[16], *array = array_-1; /* "good" old (undefined) C trick for 1-based arrays */ < 1379205481 998678 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The insane things we'll do for arrays of the other style < 1379205493 177841 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that is actually undefined < 1379205502 65601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Sure it is. < 1379205502 480148 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1379205563 474712 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Accessing array[0] would be, but array[1] to array[16] should be defined < 1379205564 396673 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :One may only have a pointer be equal to NULL, somewhere within an object, or one past the end of that object. And only one of those is a derefereceable pointer. < 1379205580 383226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: "Wwhen an expression that has integer type is -- subtracted from a pointer, -- [things what happen when it points inside the object]; otherwise, the behavior is undefined." < 1379205581 914005 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why one past the end, I know not) < 1379205604 190698 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fair enough < 1379205888 31898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "An important endorsement of widespread practice is the requirement that a pointer can always be incremented to /just past/ the end of an array, with no fear of overflow or wraparound: SOMETYPE array[SPAN]; // ... for (p = &array[0]; p < &array[SPAN]; p++) This stipulation merely requires that every object be followed by one byte whose address is representable. -- In the case of p-1, on the other hand, an entire object /would/ have to be alloca < 1379205916 637982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... /would/ have to be allocated prior to the array of objects that p traverses, so decrement loops that run off the bottom of an array can fail. This restriction allows segmented architectures, for example, to place objects at the start of a range of addressable memory." (C99 rationale) < 1379205927 419719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Seems that I don't have splitlong.pl in autoloads.) < 1379206049 589042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Widespread practice" is the reason for many things in the rationale.) < 1379208072 218447 :ottianna!~canaima@186.88.101.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379208144 804991 :ottianna!~canaima@186.88.101.20 PART :#esoteric < 1379208407 909825 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379208634 693970 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, C *is* speced so as to be at least compatible with nearly everything that compiled C at some point. < 1379208650 467117 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus why EBCDIC C exists. < 1379208716 103914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering the other day which extant platforms (if any) don't have twos-complement signed integer overflow < 1379208727 496047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any general purpose CPUs in this category < 1379208734 963763 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a good question. < 1379208742 852175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but DSPs often do saturating arithmetic, I think < 1379208754 372769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also some general purpose CPUs have instructions for saturating arithmetic, as well) < 1379208776 549609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume people program DSPs in C because people program everything in C, but do they have saturating semantics for regular ints and such? < 1379208803 979 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so? < 1379208814 145943 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say no, but I suspect yes. < 1379208840 181431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heart says no but the mind says yes < 1379209351 10618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379209463 702034 :douglass!~thiotimol@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379212223 334089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379213355 57388 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379214320 236717 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379216019 237768 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379217692 872947 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379218576 866900 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ab5:99ff:fef3:f256 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379218802 754116 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379219137 890124 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379219613 142494 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tclsh < 1379219614 608576 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: tclsh: command not found < 1379219785 867375 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, /usr/bin/primes has a bug. < 1379219801 855289 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, it's /usr/games/primes. I should have known. < 1379219812 329009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What bug does it have? < 1379219814 255839 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379219819 151972 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like /usr/lames/primes < 1379219833 812265 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It prints 10000000079. < 1379219867 305526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a pretty bad bug. < 1379219869 598834 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10000000079 `quotRem` 75329 < 1379219871 415729 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (132751,0) < 1379219907 382144 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`primes < 1379219908 651938 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: primes: not found < 1379220285 147521 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Educated persons who read Ken Thompson’s “Reflections on Trusting Trust” throw up their hands in stoic resignation, as if they were confronted with some grim and immutable law of nature. But where is the law of physics which tells us that any computation must be broken up into millions of human-unintelligible instructions before a machine can execute it?" < 1379220289 936149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1379220303 623666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fine, get rid of the compiler--- you still need to trust the silicon at some point < 1379220331 441751 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the law of physics was under the couch the whole time < 1379220360 723354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler-++ < 1379220372 303722 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`karma compiler- < 1379220377 529089 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler- has 0 karma. < 1379220377 674548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma compiler- < 1379220377 820117 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler- has a karma of 0 < 1379220402 28324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your commitment to the karma system is admirable, shachaf, to someone, i'm sure < 1379220419 187634 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :self-admiration is good enough for me < 1379220479 184028 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@karma blah < 1379220479 329498 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah has a karma of 31338 < 1379220973 791860 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, it prints numbers whose second smallest positive factor is at least 65539. < 1379220982 907458 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps that was prime enough for bsd. < 1379221054 187721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's prime enough for me most of the time, honestly < 1379221058 600572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: lol. < 1379221117 616788 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This may also explain why it is much faster than my version of primes. < 1379222333 48965 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379222482 873466 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379222807 880798 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379223181 858237 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1379223883 751223 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379223910 858433 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379224639 643048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/pDxdwpb.jpg < 1379225885 440845 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a pizza place gives me a slice of pizza on the house, is that likely to be just a thing they do for regular customers or might they be assuming stuff about my financial status? < 1379225913 374887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got some kinda problem with hobos, motherfucker < 1379225988 962291 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379226545 20117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Wikipedia always try to enter secure mode? < 1379226598 755510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Wikipedia: The Skeptic Encyclopedia of Pseudoscience states that some principles of feng shui are "quite rational", while noting that "folk remedies and superstitions... [have been] incorporated into feng shui's eclectic mix". < 1379226825 137459 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379226914 62540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379227360 240298 :Nets!0e8bc409@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.196.9 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379227494 958759 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-23-140-113.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379228380 930538 :Nets!0e8bc409@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.196.9 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379228437 595570 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379229691 93388 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379230606 880863 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379234253 712444 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379234811 746962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379234895 935613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379234910 744479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379235734 649969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379236127 112493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379236208 366520 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379236273 996381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379236919 36104 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379237352 254744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell s1 it is. But no rule whatever thing. Interested in BF code? <-- it's code 20 in wolfram's number scheme for _totalistic_ 1d automata (2 colors, size 5 neighborhood). < 1379237352 400199 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379237372 74641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 it is. But no rule whatever thing. Interested in BF code? <-- it's code 20 in wolfram's number scheme for _totalistic_ 1d automata (2 colors, size 5 neighborhood). < 1379237372 220220 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379239666 940072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379240562 915034 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379240617 733410 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379244708 428816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (??) < 1379244709 420992 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379244928 923602 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<*>) . pure < 1379244929 903096 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1379244936 798907 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<*>) < 1379244937 716135 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => f (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1379244942 849927 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1379244954 475482 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ap (<*>) pure < 1379244955 386892 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: < 1379244955 532120 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : a0 = f0 (a0 -> b0) < 1379244955 532283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: f0 (a0 -> b0) -> f0 a0 < 1379244959 663114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ap (<*>) . pure < 1379244960 572225 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Applicative f => f a -> f (a -> b) -> f b < 1379244999 305601 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That didn't do what I thought it would do < 1379245013 665941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you think it would do < 1379245026 973610 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379245055 89344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ap is probably in the -> Monad, unlike the rest < 1379245077 569602 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I did expect ap to be in Reader < 1379245091 97870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ap = (<*>) for any sensible Monad/Applicative type < 1379245101 694133 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get something that matches (??) type signature pointfree < 1379245124 672984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you should note that it only uses Functor. < 1379245134 941388 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1379245179 646986 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl \a b -> fmap ($b) a < 1379245182 728933 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip (fmap . flip ($)) < 1379245182 874215 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimization suspended, use @pl-resume to continue. < 1379245183 537025 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \a b -> fmap ($b) a < 1379245184 409014 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379245210 701289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @pl seems still broken. < 1379245247 433413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip $ \b -> fmap ($b) < 1379245248 391350 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379245269 43925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip (fmap . flip id) < 1379245269 927029 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379245288 296793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm spoiling again, ain't i < 1379245313 584796 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you can actually simplify flip id away < 1379245330 991718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, that's pretty simple < 1379245412 72971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (??) (fmap . (??) id) < 1379245413 60623 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379245452 960640 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using ?? to define ?? probably wouldn't work well < 1379245465 671868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379245745 269958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let (???) = (???) (fmap . (???) id) in (???) < 1379245746 233405 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Occurs check: cannot construct the infinite type: b0 = f0 b0 < 1379245746 378684 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type: ((f0 (f0 b0) -> f0 b0) -> f0 (f0 b0) -> f0 b0) < 1379245746 378853 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : -> (f0 (f0 b0) -> f0 b0) -> f0 b0 -> b0 < 1379245773 832935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think that's polymorphic recursion < 1379245806 312334 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1379245823 564424 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let (???) = (???) (fmap . (???) id); (???) :: Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b in (???) < 1379245824 758916 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1379245845 98822 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (???) = (???) (fmap . (???) id); (???) :: Functor f => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b in (???) div 2 4 < 1379245846 647537 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: stack overflow < 1379245857 971872 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> div ?? 2 $ 4 < 1379245859 604141 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1379245884 451444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t let f1 = (??); f2 = (??); f3 = f1 (fmap . f2 id) in (f1, f2, f3) < 1379245885 525168 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => ((a -> a1 -> b1) -> a1 -> a -> b1, ((a -> b) -> a2 -> b2) -> a2 -> (a -> b) -> b2, f (a -> b) -> a -> f b) < 1379245958 24722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t \f1 f2 -> f1 (fmap . f2 id) < 1379245958 900462 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor f => ((a -> f a1 -> f b) -> t) -> ((a2 -> a2) -> a -> a1 -> b) -> t < 1379246052 466131 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379246533 665993 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379248299 137128 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379248934 227340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379249122 424506 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have came to the conclusion I am not very good at the Hello World quiz < 1379249153 211040 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's not fair... < 1379249627 617414 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what quiz? < 1379250120 446046 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://helloworldquiz.com/ < 1379250137 996774 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote wine < 1379250143 395677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :820) i love how allegedly wine can run all of these different programs but the only one i can actually run is starcraft i think wine may secretly be a cleanroom reimplementation of starcraft < 1379250427 383730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379250755 608882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1379250769 886033 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379250775 179338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether or not something works in wine is entirely nondeterministic < 1379250936 268482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379253116 235322 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should replace gnome with wine, then. < 1379254832 294625 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379255298 180356 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379255563 887447 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379255788 960977 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379256150 659630 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-190-224.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379256191 499541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem figure out how to type ς̂ into LibreOffice. < 1379256197 241514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy-pasting it in drops the hat. < 1379256283 952893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not exactly "drops", since it is still there (backspacing over it takes an extra step), but it's not visible. < 1379256369 346549 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379257338 926370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379258536 27333 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1379258577 924106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379259184 553552 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379259426 952666 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379260456 786399 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379260483 680990 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379260484 564238 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1379261205 923335 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379265024 190055 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379265278 251752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379265701 748679 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379267237 494756 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379267821 420473 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if any humans ever used merge sort when manually sorting some things < 1379267889 922288 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but there are many computer science freshmen < 1379268059 627350 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are given a deck of cards and asked to sort it, maybe using merge sort wouldn't be a bad idea < 1379268089 420785 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than category sort or whatever the standard human sort is < 1379268094 872233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly when sorting things (in a computer or in person) you have more information than just pairwise less-than < 1379268098 816177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can use that to be faster < 1379268142 895716 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1379268154 832083 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely you would sort a deck of cards using the patience game < 1379268164 267166 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorting a deck of cards is probably O(n) < 1379268164 412653 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I end up using selection sort when I sort? < 1379268169 866304 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I remember hearing that was what humans usually use < 1379268180 319277 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, like, in a hand of cards, moving a card is a lot harder than finding the minimum < 1379268187 412133 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you can do the latter with your eyes, right? < 1379268193 906065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if findmin() is super fast but moving is slow, selection is good < 1379268208 191831 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379268222 18758 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the sorting algorithm called where you just give up and let it be messy >_> < 1379268227 842062 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I tend to put the current card into the corresponding pile and then just merge all the piles at the end < 1379268229 281357 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :52 card pickup? XD < 1379268235 228008 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bogosort < 1379268281 924876 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pseudo-sorting algorithm that works best is the one where you riffle the deck ten times to try and make the next game more random < 1379268311 478150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ooh patience sort < 1379268319 451620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use that to implement a diff algorithm < 1379268342 792773 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've never needed to diff two decks of cards... < 1379268344 363613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shuffling works best when you have a reliable source of randomness < 1379268354 379920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bramcohen.livejournal.com/73318.html < 1379268931 146626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379269012 908235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I have came to the conclusion I am not very good at the Hello World quiz <-- *MWAHAHAHA* < 1379269024 770818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs to gloat about the few things he can.
< 1379269199 789920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379269312 249631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If you are given a deck of cards and asked to sort it, maybe using merge sort wouldn't be a bad idea <-- i think for a deck of cards the obvious manual algorithm is to designate a spot on the table for each card and put it directly there. < 1379269349 370432 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1379269620 574337 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just scan through the deck and convert it to a permutation index in your head < 1379269712 327520 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sorting algorithms can be much improved if you know in advance exactly which values you are sorting < 1379269723 292175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379269754 341256 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, O(this isn't even really an algorithm) < 1379269785 139947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the way you described is probably O(n) < 1379269785 951042 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Throw away the useless unsorted deck and snort out a sorted one from your nose < 1379269998 757924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a trick < 1379270382 293171 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"quicksnort" < 1379270468 76311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :O(balls) < 1379270489 920809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be a Haskell class having (w x -> m x), (w x -> w (w x)), (w (x -> m y) -> w x -> w y)? < 1379270781 109003 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1379271163 199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aem1k.com/world/ < 1379271201 836387 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah, spot sort would be the fastest < 1379271360 13205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :killall killall& killall killall& killall killall& killall killall& killall killall& killall killall& killall killall& < 1379271433 554860 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, why is it that every so often I search for "CHROMEBOOK TURN OFF CAPS LOCK" < 1379271433 893578 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the thing where you're using a solaris computer and you type killall out of habit < 1379271442 790801 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: actually no < 1379271467 909070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I learnt UNIX on SunOS < 1379271483 458060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a version of Mozilla so old that it blanked Wikipedia's Talk:Main Page once < 1379271500 671530 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I know about the thing, but no-one I know has actually done that afaik < 1379271509 58564 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it was only the talk page < 1379271515 765705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: yeah < 1379271525 497073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually use to have perms to edit Wikipedia's Main Page < 1379271529 455756 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never found a reason to do so < 1379271552 751541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I did start a large campaign to rename it that ultimately ended in failure) < 1379271557 594408 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is like "let's use templates" and also "let's use bots" < 1379271591 123428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the templates were a good idea < 1379271603 24737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bots are at least a reasonable idea, although I can see some downsides < 1379271604 412401 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I never use killall, I use pkill instead < 1379271620 943111 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so used to using pkill, sometimes I use pkill on process numbers < 1379271625 188162 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't work < 1379271934 856906 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379271936 616870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose might is riptide and undertow / There's no escaping from Ohio < 1379272208 552618 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oregon is bad / stop it if you can < 1379272249 802358 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the rhyme < 1379272267 951884 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask john linnell < 1379273507 919029 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379274043 705880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought about Newcomb's and I see that statistically speaking, if they know 99% accurately which one you picked, you can calculate the expected value is better with one box. However, statistically speaking is not the only way to speak! < 1379274184 925365 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: rename it to what? < 1379274204 931213 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any reason that storebought mac and cheese would be any less healthy than making pasta and cheese myself? < 1379274262 333649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Perhaps depending how it is make? < 1379274479 351877 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well, i suspect that in some sense the storebought will be healthier < 1379274495 849806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they invent special fake cheese with more vitamins < 1379274504 412925 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the homemade will probably taste better < 1379274526 236865 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the storebought tastes better < 1379274544 608844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also, there's the factor of how much time it takes to make... < 1379274570 240399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't making it right then < 1379274674 780165 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :store mac+cheese is not guaranteed to come from a cow at any point < 1379274675 544051 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379274685 286782 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's the kind of property you want < 1379274705 86437 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why storebought takes better is because they add a bunch of microscopic things your tastebuds like. < 1379274740 827174 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The properties I want: Not going to kill me if I eat it every night for dinner, and fast to make. And not too expensive, but if mac and cheese violates the first property, I'm open to more expensive stuff < 1379274788 401946 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff to improve creaminess, even when it gets cold, and just the right amount of congealing. < 1379275024 320684 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would not recommend eating kraft dinner for every dinner < 1379275062 679355 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why not? < 1379275108 371382 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's far from a balanced diet. it's missing a lot of essential shit. it's really not much more than carbs and sodium, and a little fat too if you use whole milk < 1379275175 497372 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is pasta and real cheese any better? < 1379275187 321650 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is (real) pizza any better? < 1379275211 213933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pizza usually has tomatoes, which should at least make scurvy less likely < 1379275261 337444 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I do eat lunch, consisting of usually a hamburger (could be chicken too) < 1379275291 26841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly "eat the same thing every night for dinner" is incompatible with "balanced diet". < 1379275307 408046 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you eat a magic concoction of every possible good thing < 1379275312 535258 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: can I convince you to see an actual nutritionist? like, it'll be slightly better than #esoteric at the very least. < 1379275313 398200 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :in just the right balance < 1379275358 649422 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I spoke to a nutritionist once, I should do that again < 1379275402 62910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: istr there is a couple of healthy foodstuffs, one of which neutralizes the health benefit of the other if you eat/drink them simultaneously. i don't quite remember what they were, though. < 1379275440 910698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, some mineral or something which cannot be absorbed if you have the other thing simultaneously. < 1379275651 417677 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting < 1379275764 714494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have vague bells on either calcium, iron or c-vitamins as one of them. < 1379275781 784204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the one that cannot be absorbed) < 1379275844 472378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was coffee and calcium < 1379275851 150371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron and calcium < 1379275856 288072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's iron and calcium < 1379275861 964969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379275865 98069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember from when we were mocking that soylent idiot < 1379275901 279536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i find google hits on coffee and calcium. but there might be other incompatible things, of course. < 1379275946 672815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: rename it to what? ← Portal:Main < 1379275954 81685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall that iron and calcium soylent thing too, though. < 1379275966 759772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's a terrible name :P < 1379275974 289596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well it's the correct namespace < 1379275985 755954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Main Page]] should be an encyclopedia article < 1379275994 54895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: he is now waiting for someone to make up something called "Main Page", so they _have_ to move it. < 1379275996 928812 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct and user-friendly are frequently at odds < 1379276025 241323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else get an ugly disambiguation notice in the main page < 1379276041 579952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to name my daughter Main Page and hope she gets famous < 1379276049 557290 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Main Page is just another name for brainfuck < 1379276230 879840 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379276234 417890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is Page your real surname < 1379276252 705256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make things easier. < 1379276276 652841 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Page sounds like Paige, which is a reasonable girl's name < 1379276307 160850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm afraid Jimmy Page didn't have any kids named Main, so 'oh well' on that front < 1379276430 586541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a Jimmy somewhere authoring Jimmy's Jimmy Page Page < 1379276437 458494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could start a band called Main Page < 1379276438 695366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well things being in the wrong namespace mean that you need exceptions all over the place < 1379276516 768583 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't having a 'Portal:' namespace create potential conflicts with 3D platforming puzzle games? < 1379276558 353748 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, if they made a movie < 1379276563 781763 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal: The Movie < 1379276634 977414 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ø_(Disambiguation) < 1379276679 728813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, there are namespace / pagetitle clashes on occasion < 1379276688 362937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most infamous was [[:coolCat]] < 1379276705 492549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which broke the database in random ways for months < 1379276733 189368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eventually I think they had to modify the database manually to get rid of it < 1379277170 630488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Portal < 1379277310 257362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think there's a user-friendliness issue here; who manually types /Main_Page into their browser? < 1379277337 2528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people just get there from http://en.wikipedia.org or more likely from Googling something and later clicking the globe logo < 1379277398 575572 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have bookmarks, [[Main Page]] will never point anywhere else < 1379277407 660455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck them and their bookmarks < 1379277418 629372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the problem is existing links < 1379277419 16681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could at least have it be a redirect to Portal:Main < 1379277421 637315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=%s < 1379277435 90177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1379277437 40970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, read the talk page < 1379277440 533719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's what I was suggesting < 1379277460 355493 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why does it link to a page that redirects to the Main Page at the top rather than the actual main page...? < 1379277463 820225 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am I trying to understand Wikipedia?? < 1379277470 174614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whykipedia < 1379277497 820400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because [[Main Page]] is in the wrong namespace for a Wikipedia-internal-specific disambiguation hatnote < 1379277502 337306 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you bookmark Wikipedia then you'll end up with it linking to /wiki/Main_Page in like 99.999% of cases < 1379277503 504560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the bots would thus get confused < 1379277513 699974 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a lot worse than breaking the search shortcut thing < 1379277526 702845 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is boring though :V < 1379277598 105276 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I think you're inadvertently arguing for moving the Main Page, there :) < 1379277663 987315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I also wanted to rename the Main Page to the null string, but apparently the developers were unwilling to make that possible < 1379277993 550755 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379279109 219929 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379279126 353668 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379279499 974594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379279827 564769 :iconmaster_!~iconmaste@cci-209150237034.clarityconnect.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379281459 991847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379281508 729680 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379282360 120472 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379284106 770532 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379284407 19127 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:490:7b39:2ce1:3bf1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379285740 753487 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1379286230 740232 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379286496 765967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379286511 92099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer was off, sorry < 1379286610 413623 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379287536 4673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are forgiven. < 1379287629 660073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, thank god you're back, there was a major crisis brewing < 1379287794 987654 :stuntaneous!~stuntane@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:490:7b39:2ce1:3bf1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379287920 197564 :Frooxius_!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379287933 567732 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379287966 870106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any compiler MML -> .MOD? < 1379288062 78810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What kind of crisis is that? < 1379288075 281459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the details aren't important now < 1379288451 180933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crisis on infinite earths < 1379288624 650305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing, yes < 1379288805 355039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Well this Earth is finite so we are fine. < 1379288966 515460 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379290338 153471 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379290666 315330 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379291318 203687 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379292695 150878 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character may join "Aberration Saver". What would you think of such thing like that? < 1379293675 119502 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379294127 17882 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it even mean < 1379294196 129813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it can be explained so easily, sorry < 1379294227 883339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379294237 373750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I can try to explain it a little big < 1379294240 722750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/big/bit/ < 1379294259 961517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to know what we think of such thing like that if we don't know which thing it is < 1379294276 595591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, I know, but I thought you might know < 1379294284 176928 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to explain in a minute < 1379294303 121647 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is related to the god Gxxyuxihuvxi < 1379294320 864474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good explanation. < 1379294338 360111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the patron deity of my character < 1379294351 2967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the patron deity of consonants < 1379294388 519543 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the society to save such creatures, which can be against opposing society but they don't necessarily have some patron deity < 1379294498 3291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is difficult to pronounce so sometimes they call "The god who shall not be named because is difficult to pronounce". < 1379294597 17607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1379294599 97199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1379294605 905781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It has a very high vapor pressure, for a metal" < 1379294736 139767 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you watch how I play the Dungeons&Dragons game then maybe you can know kind of what kind of things I mean. < 1379294777 923146 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379294916 904057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are the god of good aligned aberration type creatures. Their holy and ritual and temple and so on are often considered confusing by others, however. < 1379294973 433012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes even wrong, but, you have to think about it for yourself too, and see if it is sensible! < 1379294987 484848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it is simultaneously sane and insane, is also OK too. < 1379295006 865053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do you like this? < 1379295016 628388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What kind of metal do you mean? < 1379296311 214564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mercury < 1379296373 685199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that's what it is. < 1379296865 229481 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379297174 24406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I explained enough now? < 1379297485 656328 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i get it < 1379297556 252091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379297582 122056 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you have something to say about it then? < 1379297631 935468 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know enough about your play style < 1379297643 961055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd have to watch you play < 1379297752 15185 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could read the recording of the game, and/or to ask question, answer, complaint, comment, confusing, and thinking. < 1379297851 697921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say, I often do unusual kind of things, I suppose. < 1379297914 501743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. < 1379297993 912938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how will you attack the darkness < 1379298020 428276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By surprise! < 1379298047 345800 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can respect that answer < 1379298074 839441 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character can see in dark anyways (usually; sometimes there is magical darkness that you can't see, but I have ways to get around that too and it depend on circumstances) < 1379298098 38282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a wizard? < 1379298104 27803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1379298111 507316 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is harry potter < 1379298113 423755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although often the things I do are not spell casting anyways < 1379298195 854672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things rather have to do with items, such as cat fur, rusty nails, bone, stone, lock picks, astrolabe, rope, IOU, and so on. < 1379298215 100316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DM thought the astrolabe would be completely useless, but, I used it. < 1379298235 343389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379298239 711745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character sheet is available on the computer though < 1379298239 857309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1105) For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379298268 676568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually don't need to attack the darkness though < 1379298412 526651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is usually bright areas that we attack < 1379298429 732445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simply because the opponent would not attack if they cannot see! < 1379298439 182821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you pick locks in real life or only in the dungeons & dragons game < 1379298447 314506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe the opponent has magical sight < 1379298457 267182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in the game. < 1379298477 381765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, if they do have magical sight, or just if they can naturally see in dark, then they can, but my character can see in dark too < 1379298486 934694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But is not very good at combat < 1379298487 85891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opponent has termorsense < 1379298489 505446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are dead < 1379298499 769562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :eaten by a grue < 1379298504 810064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or an object mimic < 1379298534 897822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have managed to escape far more severe situations than that < 1379298574 732101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you? or was it your character? < 1379298621 527170 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've been mugged by a crack addict with a pistol in the middle of the night, i'll concede you've survived grue-level challenges < 1379298799 894308 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379298963 29148 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, 1 bowl of mac and cheese is not a sufficient dinner < 1379298998 251142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to my still hungry stomach < 1379299428 54595 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could have told you that < 1379299441 896926 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a box of velveeta shells and cheese with broccoli < 1379299453 237197 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mix some tuna or spam into it < 1379299460 753855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll fill you right up < 1379299480 874048 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Stop&Shop would sell meat thermometers < 1379299500 202856 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I could feel comfortable buying ... oh I don't know if fridge/freezer actually work < 1379299524 215015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you still in farmingdale or whatever < 1379299611 882333 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you have to read the recording to learn! < 1379299670 251892 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recording wouldn't tell me whether you've been mugged by a canadian crack addict < 1379300025 349817 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379300400 827572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes < 1379300406 9157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in college anymoe < 1379301671 535703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not been mugged by a Canadian crack addict and neither have my characters. < 1379301708 740865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My playing style has sometimes been compared with Batman. < 1379301811 964787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the game, once my character was being captured, and I decided not to resist being captured; after all they were taking me to the place I was intending to go anyways. Sometimes deceptive tactics can help. < 1379301819 238835 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379301850 68035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My tactics are rarely fighting. < 1379302081 525710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are more likely confusions, deceptions, preparation, defense, outsmarting opponent, and mainly thinking ahead a lot and using what we happen to have in the given situation. < 1379302099 986184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, using the phase of the moon to your advantage, or the day of the week. < 1379304753 925284 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379305754 595159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are many reasons to avoid the use of magic in many situations, and this is what is done. It can include to save the magic for later, or to do other things that work even in anti magic field, to not allow others to identify the spell, and because magical things can go wrong and/or have less likely chances to work. < 1379305766 763961 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :cocitrouille < 1379305778 936916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, when magic is used, you have to do things such as taking advantage of the exact duration of the spell, and other side-effects. < 1379305987 773455 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often, mundane things will do. < 1379306594 1877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, like I mentioned, phase of the moon, day of the week, astrolabe, slant of the floor, the arrangement of things in a room or of hallways and rooms in a building, mundane deception or lack of it, Sicilian reasoning, the style of writing of a book, the size and type of paper used to write a message, the current season, time of day, sunrise and sunset times, and a whole bunch of other things like that. < 1379306613 86688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is how you should learn to play the Dungeons&Dragons game! < 1379306694 48551 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play the game like this? < 1379307650 883836 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't like chess, where you have to act every turn; you are allowed to pass your turn, and it is often useful to do so. < 1379307847 400896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can save someone by retreating instead. < 1379307985 178880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the manga "Kaiji", Kaiji manages to beat a pachinko game partially by the floor being slanted because of someone doing construction nearby. < 1379310157 865112 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379310277 510241 :cocitrouille!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1379311602 430082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1379313944 610911 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379315533 428407 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379316853 325962 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379317223 338406 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379317485 244280 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up this morning in a mathsy mood < 1379317500 800033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally worked out /why/ you can get the Fibonacci series from Pascal's triangle < 1379317537 698173 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379318189 997061 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which gives me a weird idea for a Fibonacci sequence program < 1379318245 689803 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379318833 288725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379319348 402492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Special course in Language Technology: Language, Motion and Emotion" ... "The course is multi- and interdisciplinary --" < 1379322232 107785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTE! currently system is at most 8*65536 bytes long. This should be no problem, even in the future. I want to keep it simple. This 512 kB kernel size should be enough --" (linux-0.01 bootloader comment) 2.4M /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64 (Debian testing) A bit of a discrepancy there. < 1379322792 922148 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those 2.4MB is the compressed size! (maybe the 512kB were too?) < 1379322866 558123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the 0.01 code does decompression. < 1379322914 259085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something else I learned: the current boot sector header of the (x86) kernel just prints "Direct floppy boot is not supported. Use a boot loader program instead." and reboots: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/arch/x86/boot/header.S < 1379322931 328263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of assuming there still was a vestigial boot loader there. < 1379323271 259167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they tried removing it completely first but then got tons of bug reports about corrupt kernels not being bootable < 1379323559 992061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It said "Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. Please use a boot loader program instead." -- a slightly different wording -- in bugger_off_msg in Jun 20, 2012. < 1379323776 401367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, it didn't support floppy boot in 2009 when zImage support (in addition to bzImage -- which is still gzip, I understand it's a common misconception to think it's bzip2) was dropped. < 1379323788 535668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in fact it did not support floppy boot in 2007 either. < 1379323817 186996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor in 2005, which is as far back as github's history view of bootsect.S goes. < 1379323943 845220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Back to 2.6.12, which seems to be the first Git-managed kernel. Well, maybe LXR knows more.) < 1379324091 24240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.5.64 still supports floppy boot, and 2.5.65 already has the "not supported" error message. < 1379324094 566784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379324176 293711 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a quick change < 1379324195 218757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Summary of changes from v2.5.64 to v2.5.65" "Peter Anvin : bootsect removal" < 1379324348 219291 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already removed my boot sector and I'm not even at 0.01 < 1379324378 336278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, 2.5.64 itself changes bootsect.S by adding the value 21 to the 'disksizes' (supported sector/track numbers) array. < 1379324411 316487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling perhaps that change prompted someone to get rid of the whole thing. < 1379324601 80390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KXBH best thing? < 1379325599 340579 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1379325891 242924 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379326704 138372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379327156 516843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 I have also started seeing the thing where wikipedia tries to change to https automatically. I kind of like it. I think it's set by the "Always use a secure connection when logged in" preference. < 1379327156 662334 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379327458 916664 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, reading proggit is making my hatred of github less irrational < 1379327462 354138 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I be annoyed at this? < 1379327745 243463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does proggit affect your opinion of github? < 1379327786 941776 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's someone reporting on how they managed to send 300,000 emails in 4 minutes /accidentally/ because they were trying to migrate an issue tracker to Github < 1379327793 605068 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that it turns out that there's no other way to do it < 1379327829 123167 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, git. < 1379327843 924336 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, git is suboptimal as a VCS < 1379327849 660208 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won, somehow < 1379327856 923293 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I find that flabbergasting. < 1379327864 789378 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's hideously unusable. < 1379327888 530401 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :git story: I spent like an hour last night trying to figure out a git command to print the hash of HEAD < 1379327903 566161 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if there's any 100% reliable way to do it, and there's no /obvious/ way to do it < 1379327905 863601 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg story: hg id < 1379327912 872672 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, for HEAD < 1379327914 481751 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg id -r tip < 1379327919 955220 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current best solution is git log --pretty=format:%H -1 < 1379327927 827410 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lul < 1379327957 491597 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, git is honestly the worst thing ever. I have to assume that there was malicious intent in its design, because even programmers can't eff up UIs that badly. < 1379327969 852306 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the actual explanation is that it doesn't have a UI < 1379327982 732488 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a programming API, which they planned to build a UI on top of < 1379327987 870003 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never got round to it < 1379327992 438217 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so people started using the API directly < 1379328033 419379 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find most perplexing is that people actually think git is usable. < 1379328038 974736 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who use it. < 1379328050 294709 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I'm not insane, so I'm forced to conclude that they are. < 1379328063 280666 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it "usable" in the sense of "possible to use" < 1379328069 547241 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1379328071 84086 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in the sense of "usability" < 1379328071 330811 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use hg-git. < 1379328086 123989 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess git is the C of version control systems < 1379328102 599102 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you do just about anything, but at the expense of needing a lot of complexity to do anything < 1379328127 859633 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that even without any guidance, it's easier to do everything in hg-git VIA A REPOSITORY FORMAT TRANSLATION than it is to do the same in git with github's help pages. < 1379328129 555813 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(personally I prefer darcs) < 1379328140 328175 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also github don't understand git, AFAICT < 1379328151 766420 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a github client for Windows that is incapable of doing some of the most basic operations < 1379328181 137380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: "git rev-parse HEAD" not doing it? < 1379328181 836008 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use darcs, switched to hg because it was good enough and more popular, looked at git and cried for a generation of programmers. < 1379328200 865539 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I thought I tried that, not at a computer with git on right now so I can't check < 1379328211 64662 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it was something similar I tried < 1379328220 995839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works in the one repository I tried. < 1379328233 821520 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I now manage everything on bitbucket/hg and have it automatically cloned to github :) < 1379328240 739 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend this solution for everyone. < 1379328250 118060 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, it involves having contact with github < 1379328262 914184 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: The problem is, lots of services that want to be trendy are github-only. < 1379328273 797677 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that just makes them easier to ignore :) < 1379328292 378176 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to having a github clone, I can have all my tests run automatically on every push; and I don't have to touch github itself except on initial commit. < 1379328330 9464 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Google recruiters have only tried to pick me up over my /bitbucket/ activity, so I guess at least the recruitment world isn't github-only. < 1379328342 967827 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: they tried to pick me up over something, and I have no idea what < 1379328349 652903 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just "we see you are active in Open Source" < 1379328364 15699 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379328374 967230 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which could be anything from the smallish patches I have in Gnome, to C-INTERCAL < 1379328423 96692 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I find hilarious is how the Google pick-up artists clearly don't go one step further, to "oh you publish stuff relevant to us" < 1379328437 301315 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their whole process is "clearly we don't give a shit about research, but you can be a code monkey, boy" < 1379328485 774340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1105 < 1379328490 846567 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I assumed it was an automated process < 1379328490 992100 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1105) For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379328518 556686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1105s/ For example I don't have the "Magic Missile" spell. how will you attack the darkness By surprise! < 1379328535 340674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1379328547 412664 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I told them that I was busy doing a PhD, and check back in 4 years < 1379328554 488673 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm waiting to see if they do or not < 1379328568 411505 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, how is your PhD going? < 1379328588 503798 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: decently, although I'm annoyed at the lack of research to build upon < 1379328607 677004 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like I have to do all the fundamental research myself just so that I can do the research I actually want to do < 1379328609 671913 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Hahaha < 1379328619 423233 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I remember correctly, it's something that I am afraid that I am not particularly interested in < 1379328630 117184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just sent a 14-page reply letter for reviewer comments about a 12-page paper, in the interests of being thorough. < 1379328637 753625 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and meanwhile, my supervisor's asking why I'm writing a paper about formalizing delay-insensitive asynchronous hardware rather than working on my thesis < 1379328677 275676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^ ] <' quotes < 1379328679 17691 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: there is plenty of room to get head twice at once \ IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: In an alternate universe, I would say "In an alternate universe, < 1379328690 888718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^: ] <' quotes < 1379328692 379584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ what's the data of? [...] Locations in a now deceased game called Mutation I have no problems with you being interested in online games but the necrophilia is disturbing \ (in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ GOODBAD! Your wate < 1379328701 524625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^]: ] <' quotes < 1379328703 156862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(in #irp) Flonk, ask on #esoteric? Sgeo: yeah well its C++, so not that esoteric :P \ GOODBAD! Your watered down brand of evil conflicts with my botched attempts at dogoodery! \ < ais523> then running repeatedly until you get the right sequence of random numbers < ais523> and just completely ignoring < 1379328730 169301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | grep '[^]: ] <' < 1379328731 980296 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. \ 2) EgoBot just opened a chat session with me to say "bork bork bork" \ 3) Hmmm... My fingers and tongue seem to be as quick as ever, but my lips have definitely weakened... More practice is in order. \ 4) that's where I got it roc < 1379328737 488375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379328763 85436 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you should be intrested in this stuff anyway, it's interesting! < 1379328775 410086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep '[^]: ] <' quotes | tail < 1379328777 206777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 678) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love 187) Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat \ You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theor < 1379328804 599102 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling I don't know enough context for its interest to become apparent, ais523_ < 1379328836 696149 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having not yet begun to receive any formal education in computer science < 1379328858 953351 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well basically it's about type systems that require specific useful-for-hardware properties on programs that type in them < 1379328872 457853 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh < 1379328875 600628 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things like "there is never more than one copy of this function running concurrently" < 1379328920 137245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my first lecture is in 3 weeks) < 1379328970 389613 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's interesting because maths doesn't have a notion of, say, "simultaneously", unless you add it into the type system yourself < 1379328975 243984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quoteformat < 1379328977 518847 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdbformat is: message; * nick action; two spaces between messages; all elisions marked with [...] other than irrelevant intervening messages; for messages separated by elision, one space on each side, not two < 1379328986 936817 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nor does it have a notion of causality; forgetting to put causality into your type system is an easy mistake to make) < 1379329027 494458 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first CS lecture will be presented by one of the creators of Haskell < 1379329050 570446 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one? < 1379329082 968135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo @ < 1379329084 367244 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​@ < 1379329093 137856 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colin Runciman < 1379329115 364431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Colin is the name for a dog. < 1379329150 297217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell kmc `? quoteformat hth ​ < 1379329150 442711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379329470 115887 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is it even possible to tear apart the very fabric of reality? < 1379329510 236059 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: even if it is, I wouldn't recommend doing so < 1379329543 860212 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has just struck me how weird that cliché is < 1379329619 218540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Finally worked out /why/ you can get the Fibonacci series from Pascal's triangle <-- wait what < 1379329646 332754 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, right align it and sum the left-down diagonals < 1379329673 501947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: see the plot to "Schild's Ladder" < 1379329877 323611 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379329931 273529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1379329936 306288 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, has #esoteric seen what's been happening with aimake recently? < 1379329940 362472 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels like a pretty eso project < 1379330130 585480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the the README doesn't explain the ai part < 1379330133 275451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-the < 1379330180 924318 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's not really AI < 1379330193 950128 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cross between "it figures everything out automatically", and the first two letters of "ais523" < 1379330202 143751 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you're looking at my aimake rather than someone else's < 1379330208 51026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1379330255 466363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, went to the top google link, now i see no. 2 is on nethack4.org which seems more promising :P < 1379330260 683318 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1379330263 384405 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379330272 764641 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's mine < 1379330289 614632 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was at #2 even before I documented it < 1379330298 59368 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suspect it'll climb quickly if it starts being used for anything at all but NetHack 4 < 1379330354 139925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, how can you possibly compete with iOS and android integration, man < 1379330376 313675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only slightly joking there) < 1379330384 408150 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I don't necessarily have to /compete/, I could just add support for them < 1379330392 794618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious < 1379330393 404404 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that'd mean actually screwing around with mobile dev < 1379330527 851649 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379330804 935597 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, parts of DF don't really work at 80x25, can anyone suggest a larger but still "nice" terminal size? < 1379330827 908841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :G_64xG_64 < 1379330878 331432 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379330878 580225 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "nice" suggests "feasible to run on a modern computer" < 1379330887 766385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "nice" suggested "accurate". < 1379330889 25664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how quaint < 1379330976 818795 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, only for prophecies < 1379331000 986390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use 80x43 in putty. that's of course the maximal vertical height that fits with my desired font size. < 1379331024 910859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have a nice 1920x720 terminal on a modern computer. (Just take a 2x2 grid of 3840x2160 monitors and put a 4x6 font on it.) < 1379331113 337563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think cassandra would have something to say about nice ~ accurate for prophecies, although no one would believe her of course. < 1379331130 496999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My typical "two terminals" setup here at work seems to be 119x88. < 1379332021 29790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 The HTMLization at http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/documentation.html seems to have made a mungle out of the levels of -v: levels >= 0 are missing the "titles", being just an unordered list. (In fact, the HTML has totally mismatched tags.) < 1379332021 214498 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379332110 720395 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh I remember dfhack, that game was not bad < 1379332169 329123 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, dfhack is a sort of cheaty tool for Dwarf Fortress < 1379332215 183063 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where you read that. dfhack is an urist management game based on the dwarf fortress simulation engine < 1379332329 254465 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379332342 875622 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, aimake configuration files are probably Turing-complete < 1379332369 310762 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that like probably polynomial time < 1379332449 407808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: I sent the underscoreless you a message. < 1379332457 768225 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 NICK :ais523 < 1379332461 294761 :ais523!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1379332463 639144 :ais523!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 NICK :ais523_ < 1379332479 537832 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I actually fixed the -v mangle last night < 1379332481 948824 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jhust haven't < 1379332485 468938 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a chance to push it yet < 1379332495 385363 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, pod2html seems really buggy < 1379332508 403829 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another bizarre thing it did was add semicolons to the URLs in the GPLv3 < 1379332562 98020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The links also include the > character in them, but that's perhaps understandable. < 1379332583 41792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the semicolons are actually probably leftovers from the ">" that ends in the link. < 1379332604 905189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-- see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>;." < 1379332608 480112 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I should try to find (or write) a less buggy POD to HTML convertor than the one that ships with Perl < 1379332623 937228 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oh wow, that's the worst escaping fail I've seen < 1379332628 160865 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably parses with regexes or something < 1379332651 335733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking it turns the > into > first, and then parses and locates links afterward, with a regex. < 1379332667 99177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "http://...blah>" looks quite linky. < 1379332679 237525 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379332707 617737 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -v mangle is /technically/ my fault < 1379332714 933771 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the POD format spec says that you can't mix =item types in a single list < 1379332724 758717 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -2 is free text, 0's a bullet, and 1's a number < 1379332752 487411 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have written Z<>0 to stop that being a bullet, but apparently pod2html treats that as a bullet anyway < 1379332821 565182 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Z<>'s is pod's arbitrary no-op you use to work around parsing ambiguities) < 1379332886 495823 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like pod as a markup format, but it has some really nasty corner cases < 1379332903 224494 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conflation of the C++ term "Plain Old Data" and the Perl term "Plain Old Documentation" is distracting. < 1379332979 202047 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could move to POC++O for C++ < 1379332982 238805 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like POJO for Java < 1379332986 31039 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :("plain old Java object") < 1379333017 173251 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But pod != plain-old-object < 1379333026 639265 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, plain-old-data is almost exactly NOT an object. < 1379333049 128823 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1379333052 190537 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no methods < 1379333086 763645 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual.tiff < 1379333979 365092 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Never send chain letters via electronic mail. Chain letters are forbidden on the Internet. Your network privileges will be revoked." < 1379334049 764328 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, even better: ":-) is an example of a smiley (Look sideways)." < 1379334124 532370 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh bleh, apparently we're supposed to capitalize and punctuate correctly on IRC too. < 1379334150 221972 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1379334153 186129 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1379334153 331870 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps not < 1379334170 477219 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to be for when you're sending messages directly onto someone else's tty using write(1) < 1379334237 261605 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334294 217558 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334294 363741 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379334366 615747 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this is describing Gopher as new < 1379334374 468608 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the WWW < 1379334392 991940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: btw the -v list at http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/documentation.html looks like it should have had numbered rather than bulleted points < 1379334410 646045 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it should be a definition list, and it does start as one < 1379334416 365292 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens beyond there is a bug in pod2html < 1379334419 634521 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379334429 373054 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I've worked around locally by writing the items as -v-2, -v-1, etc. < 1379334433 327660 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379334476 144345 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, I've found the IRC guidelines here < 1379334478 792568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops fizzie already mentioned it :) < 1379334479 957344 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem really sensible < 1379334500 209172 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it seems that people pasting into IRC channels was a problem even in 1995 < 1379334506 679180 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably more of one, because pastebins didn't exist back then < 1379334573 865737 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379335141 414852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, everyone < 1379335142 456283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379335148 474304 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afternoon Roujo < 1379335156 331659 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1379335193 909945 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, link? < 1379335196 575003 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Roujo < 1379335205 318055 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: to what? < 1379335214 775662 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC guidelines? < 1379335220 225430 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the netiquette guide I was quoting from is http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 < 1379335232 578987 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an RFC, so it's all official and that < 1379335513 150914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay for Funet FileSender, 2.6 gigs of stuffs fetched in a hundred seconds. < 1379335531 174793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379335531 592077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of RFCs, I'm still waiting for those style files for fungot. :p < 1379335553 360037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And speaking of fungot... < 1379335586 712014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungoooooooot! noooooooooo... < 1379335594 960043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungnoooot < 1379335600 82828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pratchett.freenode.net is being a slow. < 1379335618 783543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NOTICE * :*** Got Ident response" and then not a thing. < 1379335640 427628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it was some sort of timeouting open-proxy-check, who knows. < 1379335655 742590 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379335659 479789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it detected the ident as a known fugitive and is now telling Interpol. < 1379335670 414238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fungutive < 1379335671 678091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what did you dooooooo? < 1379335672 162857 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: esoteric means not somewhat usable? ( preferrably one that does not have a philly accent! < 1379335697 583639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey don't you start agreeing with ais523_ < 1379335697 872165 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have a " format" function, how do you duplicate? < 1379335699 56509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. philly accents. < 1379335724 316209 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't fungot agree with me? :-( < 1379335724 545657 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i have no idea. i can write other of them < 1379335747 553509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded very zzolike < 1379335747 902641 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also RFC 1855 puts the nose in smileys, therefore I now consider this to be official) < 1379335759 526271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: because then he'll be leaving the channel most of the time! oh wait he's already started! < 1379335765 284789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :smileys with noses are ugly < 1379335775 138549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smileys with noses feel all quaint. < 1379335787 109248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 90s. < 1379335796 506819 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1379335807 581929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::^) < 1379335814 429853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, pointy noses are okay < 1379335833 471077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::v) < 1379335857 903410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1379335864 844347 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::4 < 1379335869 982829 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1379335871 839279 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::4) < 1379335874 123944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::9 < 1379335882 727353 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::5 < 1379335895 478826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::#) < 1379335896 333035 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::420 < 1379335900 233148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ":5" like "drooling from the side of the mouth"? < 1379335914 459122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely < 1379335925 578299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that or some serious underbite < 1379335928 953217 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no that's :2 < 1379335957 758202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that 2 makes a good gaunt nose < 1379335968 657890 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::2V < 1379336234 750305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything new and interesting in esotericland? < 1379336245 940621 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly aimake? < 1379336282 579662 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's not new, I just mentioned it < 1379336286 361609 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's TC in configuration < 1379336316 222284 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to have everything necessary to be TC, although probably you'd hit a filename limit eventually and run out of storage < 1379336325 262068 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's doable without touching the filesystem at all < 1379336413 745658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is aimake < 1379336429 928826 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, ais523_'s make replacement that needs much less config < 1379336459 295070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a drop-in replacement? that sounds useful! < 1379336468 27779 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not drop in < 1379336468 919187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where do i read about such a thing < 1379336476 175500 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I have heard, almost drop out < 1379336487 561582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nethack4.org/projects/aimake/ < 1379336557 334167 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it can arguably be drop-in, in that it can entirely ignore the makefile and work anyway < 1379336607 481149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds good to me. will it be possible for it to do installation without config eventually? < 1379336639 513582 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, that future is now < 1379336646 753260 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379336648 56652 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1379336651 952072 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: actually it can almost do that now < 1379336653 818811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that page is otdated < 1379336662 284986 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however it sucks at choosing filenames for executables < 1379336665 287808 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, that page is outdated < 1379336680 631222 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the filename-choosing logic is there, I just haven't hooked it up to the executable installer yet < 1379336699 186003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no reason why it would be annoying to specify the filename in the installation command < 1379336769 767849 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'm used to projects that build multiple executables < 1379336873 196801 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379336886 586298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how do you go about coming up with filenames automagically? < 1379336942 236128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn1, fn2, fn3 < 1379336943 774378 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep for "namehint" in the config file < 1379336956 328667 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it works out which files have the largest weight in naming the executable < 1379336964 603567 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then takes the common prefix (both filename and directory name) < 1379337075 651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "largest weight" mean < 1379337077 764052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379337084 731032 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379337133 10227 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it tries to distinguish files that probably contain relevant code, from files that are probably libraries < 1379337149 577429 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the heuristic is that a file probably contains relevant code if it contains a main() function or any initialized read-write data < 1379337266 257558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1379337306 207297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo =) < 1379337321 935538 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and namehints are created automagically also? < 1379337380 455553 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing's created automagically, except sys:, config_rule: and config_option: objects < 1379337390 160677 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can read how they're created in the config file (at the end of the aimake script itself) < 1379337440 75436 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so namehints are user provided in the source files? i so confuse < 1379337447 164142 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1379337450 19120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujon matin! < 1379337499 733071 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, they're created by aimake's config file < 1379337503 748040 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everything else in aimake < 1379337512 545477 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a rule engine + a set of rules < 1379337526 380613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. < 1379337528 10279 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason it's architected like that is that it makes it much easier to test < 1379337563 224 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if everything's treated the same way, it's much less likely to make it accidentally non-idempotent or accidentally fail to track dependencies correctly or something like that < 1379337608 266886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1379337616 711360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they are created by aimake, but not automatically... < 1379337635 10594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: about underload's monoidalitude, I'll have to believe you at face value for now. < 1379337672 641708 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload's obviously a monoid < 1379337682 682116 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with concatenation being the operation, and the null string the unit < 1379337743 169306 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, everything's a monoid to moneyes. < 1379337774 517252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379337775 845851 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379337785 817853 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, http://bitbucket.org/GregorR/exc . *runs* < 1379337790 695107 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I think all concatenative languages are monoids by definition < 1379337792 665454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although brainfuck is a monoid in essentially the same way < 1379337802 618226 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is everything to soreyes? < 1379337822 553865 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :... soroid? < 1379337831 352204 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is technically concatenative too, isn't it? < 1379337836 16160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379337838 503104 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, aren't those dinosaurs? < 1379337841 345569 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not in an interesting way < 1379337895 434074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck behaves too erratically on pre-initialized tape < 1379337911 158632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there isn't anything stopping you from clearing cells first < 1379337991 340625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned today that t-rex lived closer in time to the present day than to the time when stegosaurus lived < 1379337992 987676 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's better than Snowflake in that respect < 1379338011 74851 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where by definition, given a suitably initialized stack, any program can do anything whatsoever < 1379338032 430061 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I think it's interesting to draw a distinction between reversible languages, and rereversible languages < 1379338044 252489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then do so < 1379338046 36446 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a reversible language, given a program and an eventual state, you can construct the initial state of the program < 1379338060 520766 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a rereversible language, given a program, there is another program in the same language that undoes its effects < 1379338067 638598 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a stronger requirement < 1379338110 230303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so rereversible languages might form a group. like burro. or rather, my improvement to burro. < 1379338140 618051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: that's like the difference between bijection and isomorphism < 1379338169 240694 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yeah, the original burro didn't form a group because it was reversible but not rereversible < 1379338172 382705 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I think that any rereversible language forms a group possibly without associativity so not a group at all < 1379338188 626536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly between injection and monomorphism < 1379338228 478097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait no < 1379338234 220673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monomorphism is the same < 1379338261 111253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the difference between injection/monomorphism and left invertible < 1379338348 799919 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake has possibly the strongest reversibility I've seen in an esolang (within a single cycle): for each command, there is a specific other command that's both a left and right inverse of it < 1379338393 96788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just a group. < 1379338400 98102 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from this, it's immediately impossible to conclude that Snowflake has no infinite loops within a single cycle) < 1379338408 33959 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it only has finitely many commands < 1379338428 579352 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike, say, Burro, where the inverse of a single command can IIRC be multiple commands < 1379338438 237413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can? < 1379338445 678864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't remember
< 1379338461 523941 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps not < 1379338466 472706 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember either < 1379338486 815286 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: did you ever read my suggested improvements to make it form a proper group? < 1379338518 762364 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't think so, and can't find them on the wiki article or talk page < 1379338544 229714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall discussing making a language with all basic commands _self_-inverse. < 1379338564 54048 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I recall that being discussed too < 1379338574 349911 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake needed to be reasonably easy to program in, though < 1379338581 503193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: that's because i posted them on the xkcd fora instead < 1379338584 565869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course this property is not preserved for composite commands < 1379338586 587907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=14986 < 1379338604 891402 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I didn't mind making arbitrary changes to make it harder, but I wanted it to be reasonable to write a working program < 1379338686 283509 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it's interesting how close cpressey's fixed conditional in Burro ended up to FORK/SPOON in Snowflake < 1379338891 59125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Lather < 1379339331 20156 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I only scored 10 that time < 1379339336 636085 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, onoz is pretty interesting as BF derivatives go < 1379339881 975127 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :scored 10 at? < 1379339897 384559 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life, presumably. Out of 10. Success. < 1379339936 226769 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you assume, you give an ass to Uma Thurman < 1379340010 747672 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the BF derivative dodging game < 1379340020 51340 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically you keep clicking on random page on Esolang < 1379340030 362718 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and count how many BF derivs youu find before you find a language you created < 1379340032 859329 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lower is better < 1379340135 367160 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could we, like, y'know, like, delete and remove and obliterate and shred to pieces so small you start doing atomic fission the brainfuck derivatives? < 1379340143 980564 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, does Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck count? < 1379340165 900871 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1379340166 753969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : when you assume, you give an ass to Uma Thurman < 1379340170 184297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? =P < 1379340223 844670 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about I hate your bf-derivative I really do? < 1379340272 684328 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what that language is < 1379340280 755717 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the counts are only going to be approximate anyway, though < 1379340289 336819 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to judgement calls or clicking too fast < 1379340293 190441 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaargh, thought I had scored 3 but it was Fugue rather than Fueue < 1379340394 765089 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing happens all the time to me < 1379340455 667030 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got confused. some languages had a BFDish name, but the language itself was not quite BFDian enough... < 1379340484 468329 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on < 1379340491 516311 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've ended up at the page for me < 1379340548 334615 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful < 1379340551 933761 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game is this? =P < 1379340558 572131 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the BF derivative dodging game < 1379340565 78861 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:00] basically you keep clicking on random page on Esolang [15:00] and count how many BF derivs youu find before you find a language you created < 1379340565 501096 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i would probably get 100 < 1379340574 850954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379340582 151013 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAICT, if you want to do /really/ well, you have to be either cpressey or zzo38 < 1379340591 686269 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I hit Taneb before I hit me, usually < 1379340599 212833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Infinite score for me? =P < 1379340602 712901 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Taneb's likely to see the opposite results ;) < 1379340617 406453 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: if you have no non-BF-derivative languages, you have to write one so as to not be stuck clicking forever < 1379340631 785122 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just hit ais523 < 1379340638 112214 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no language, period =P < 1379340650 374165 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah. Oops. =P < 1379340656 841120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I know what I have to do now! < 1379340659 373063 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just hit Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1379340663 59948 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final score: 15 < 1379340703 61413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should change the game to be "until you land on your own language or one of cpressey's or Zzo38's" < 1379340713 817639 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we can play a lot faster < 1379340770 893998 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe put in bonus points if it's your own language < 1379340788 234405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, deduce some points from your total, really < 1379340792 220713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379340793 461455 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm up to 7 and still haven't hit me >: ( < 1379340797 585025 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it seems the goal is the get a low score? < 1379340804 846251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the word you want is deduct < 1379340816 13019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Massive Multiplayer Online Esoteric Brainfuck Derivative Dodge! < 1379340863 553843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Nah, I want to use logical axioms to find out what my score is >_> < 1379340901 319411 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I thought that last sentence was a language idea < 1379340911 14565 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until the second time I read it < 1379340920 736893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379340976 756771 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 and I give up < 1379341067 576693 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I've scored like 30 before now < 1379341082 923502 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I'm at work ;) < 1379341160 856157 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379341182 434825 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379341201 214962 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, just actually scored 3 < 1379341230 40686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many samples would one need to get a statistically safe average that could be published on the user's page? < 1379341232 249675 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this game could be scripted, if the brainfuck derivative category were accurate and up-to-date < 1379341316 928519 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't really need to sample it, you could just calculate < 1379341335 227348 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that MediaWiki's random page command isn't uniformly weighted < 1379341357 229645 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it assigns a random float between 0 and 1 to each page, then the random page button generates a random float and looks for the next higher float that belongs to a page < 1379341359 783762 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and returns that page < 1379341373 857782 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the calculation is simple enough that you don't even need a program. Number of pages in the BF-derivs category divided by number of languages you've made. < 1379341407 673521 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. but I still like my overengineered solution :D < 1379341410 208504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, doesn't that wind up as roughly uniform weighted for a sufficiently large number of pages? < 1379341425 999837 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah, but some pages will be more heavily weighted than others < 1379341430 165995 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or rather, bfderivs/(bfderivs+yourlangs) < 1379341454 513011 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowait... oh well, I'm not sure precisely the math apparently X-D < 1379341485 940022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we count your own BFDes differently than other people's BFDes? do you count them at all? < 1379341507 560197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(own languages) / (1 + own BFD)? < 1379341513 630202 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the rule is that if you've made BF-derivs, you don't deserve to play the game. < 1379341527 515829 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you hit your own BF deriv, you have to keep going < 1379341547 379804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes. < 1379341551 594209 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you invented BF? < 1379341554 963177 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that count? < 1379341560 815379 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, no < 1379341565 488681 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does P'' count? < 1379341589 152977 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF is not a BF derivative < 1379341611 492473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379341617 354525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense, yeah < 1379341632 138742 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: is there a tool that explores the gaps between page's assigned floats to figure out which page is most heavily weighted? < 1379341634 234821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hypothetically uploaded the Ook! derivative I wrote when I was 12, would that count? < 1379341650 295099 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not as far as I know < 1379341665 34266 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I still count BF derivative derivatives as BF derivatives < 1379341669 692071 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379341690 688928 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I lost the specs for my Ook! derivative < 1379341736 711414 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379341745 517241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1379341808 81463 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF', a BF derivative < 1379341817 648839 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BA-DUM TSH < 1379341829 318154 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379341848 672379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a similar conversation in another channel < 1379341920 133679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We were thinking of starting a cover band for a K-Pop group called f(x), just so that we could call ourselves df(x)/dx or f'(x) < 1379341980 533643 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I haven't had much exposure to K-pop, I find the various groups very difficult to differentiate < 1379341981 870709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, publish it, so i can write a tumblr entry decrying this crime against the perfect language < 1379342000 489735 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I think it's been completely lost now < 1379342012 677170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :REWRITE IT < 1379342028 936088 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS WAS A THIRD OF MY LIFE AGO < 1379342040 88259 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'VE STARTED AND FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL SINCE I LAST READ IT < 1379342056 832009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6 < 1379342059 634804 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I can vaguely remember what it was like < 1379342067 261256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i found something dumber than a brainfuck derivative < 1379342204 85185 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's a version in a more usual encoding at http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6/~ < 1379342231 402676 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1379342247 279019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taned: To be honest, I can't really tell either - except for that one band that I like a lot. =P < 1379342251 31711 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and seriously, there are languages there that are worse than even the worst bf deriv < 1379342277 836644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :name one that isn't in shameful < 1379342282 39328 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, Phantom_Hoover: Like what? =P < 1379342291 510618 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Shameful < 1379342331 309338 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I was going to say Snack, but someone added it to Shameful while I wasn't paying attention < 1379342333 660686 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I disagree < 1379342361 129122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to miss whatever is U+1A85... < 1379342386 661694 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esme is an esoteric programming language[citation needed] created by User:Dagoth Ur, Mad God as a lol." < 1379342386 975520 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379342388 800581 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... wow. < 1379342421 768903 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shameful (which officialy does not exist) is reserved for only the very worst languages < 1379342432 727197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Feather? < 1379342439 134889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except esme, which is the best < 1379342442 84972 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also read the talk page for Esme < 1379342486 221657 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I see =P < 1379342493 479296 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't notice quite how awful snack is < 1379342511 874622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how there's a command in the reference interpreter which isn't in the spec < 1379342524 57474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also like how i'm p. sure the reference interpreter shouldn't work at all < 1379342568 121140 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it doesn't? < 1379342569 869345 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. Okay, so the bar for my first esolang is pretty low, I guess. =P < 1379342587 823909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You have eaten as a snack right 2 people." < 1379342589 90529 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think poison is the complete worst. < 1379342590 222979 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: to be fair, it requires a sort of perverse genius to create a language quite that bad < 1379342595 83373 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[PARSING ERROR]] < 1379342671 856665 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: It doesn't even do anything! It doesn't even have a POOP function! < 1379342688 349050 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I am not debating that that language is bad < 1379342693 121691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379342698 454107 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no point in arguing that that language is bad because everyone will agree with you < 1379342712 116711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I was kidding =P < 1379342714 571824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree about automatically agreeing. < 1379342922 646259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i give up on this game < 1379343172 280716 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343430 519840 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343430 702402 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379343430 702539 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343490 644249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :henooodllo. < 1379343498 126428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome audioPhil < 1379343501 18792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14audioP07hil: Welcome 10to the internat03ional hub for esote02ric progr06ammi09ng11 lan13guage 04design and deploy05m02en03t! For more 10i10n02form05ation,10 03check out our wik07i: ht10tp://es12olangs02.org/wiki/M05a07in_Page. (For th13e07 other kind of eso09terica, 10try 11#esoteric on irc05.dal.net.) < 1379343523 427442 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379343696 510629 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what a colorful welcome < 1379343698 444137 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379343726 129851 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome audioPhil < 1379343728 384677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :audioPhil: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1379343730 773585 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also non-ridiculous versions. < 1379343774 372608 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenue audioPhil < 1379343775 624639 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bienvenue: not found < 1379343778 224027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1379343790 513525 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin < 1379343792 449754 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ! \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ ＷＥＬＣＯＭＥ \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ calc \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ complain \ complaints \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ e \ emmental \ emoclew \ emptylist \ erflist \ etymology \ forget \ fortune \ freedom \ frink \ fsck \ fu < 1379343815 509940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run catcat < 1379343817 314623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379343819 968679 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379343822 530550 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379343983 682330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379344099 625523 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like half the activity of this channel is creating new, ridiculous sorts of welcome sometimes < 1379344105 59517 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew zzo38 < 1379344107 565806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW :83ozz < 1379344127 626573 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome is one of the more popular ones, though < 1379344131 317173 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12is: one: 07of: the: mo14re: popular: o14n08es,: though: Welcome to the international 10hub for esoteric pr08ogramming lang14uage design and deployment! F04or more in10fo12rmat09ion, check out 02our wiki: 06http:05//esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the oth12er kind11 of esoter04ica09, try #esot07er02ic o02n irc.dal.net.) < 1379344138 154190 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Don't forget the part where I cat stuff for no good reason < 1379344144 588155 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat cat | cat < 1379344146 211889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379344390 808215 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379344446 46584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus the cuttle died < 1379345263 902868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/scicurious-brain/2013/09/16/ignobels-2013-who-ate-the-dead-shrew-for-science/ < 1379345264 86405 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379345578 84696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379345593 933801 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379345982 592009 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379346370 331059 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379346447 114763 :ais523_!93bcc343@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.67 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379347258 296666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I deny the parboiled shrew. < 1379347651 298937 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: Actually, there can be a purpose to | cat. < 1379347655 304752 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :isatty(1) < 1379348053 891812 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are things which like paging themselves unnecessarily < 1379348364 549195 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Well yeah. I just don't really do it for a good reason, that's all < 1379348422 187565 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at you, git < 1379348440 182763 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Hahaha, 'struth. < 1379348442 534118 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379348581 168118 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379348593 621069 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379348593 769355 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379348593 769491 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379348718 338609 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see use for | cat -e < 1379348760 306793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "cat -e" is an abomination, is it not? < 1379348781 716732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not to mention oh so POSIX-incompliant.) < 1379348846 934184 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat -e < 1379348848 867390 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config < 1379348852 278886 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1379348920 210354 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh gawd, cat -e is Satan incarnate. < 1379348944 27174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What do you think of cat -n then?-) < 1379348956 534804 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobs* < 1379348978 168092 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the solitary option that POSIX specifies (-u) is ridiculous. < 1379348979 539530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat --checkmail < 1379349021 504870 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run man cat | grep '-e' < 1379349023 30111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :man: can't open the manpath configuration file /etc/manpath.config \ grep: option requires an argument -- 'e' \ Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... \ Try `grep --help' for more information. < 1379349028 61665 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat --system echo hi # equivalent to echo hi | cat < 1379349154 841291 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric : henooodllo. <-- good stealth greeting i didn't notice < 1379349164 275854 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379349235 859718 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did anyone ever try to implement QuickSort in Brainfuck? < 1379349248 664006 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause that is what I am trying to do. < 1379349303 897294 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'l bet you anything that several ones did < 1379349323 154592 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just need to find them. That's why I'm asking < 1379349340 527566 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't NEED to. Would be just fine. < 1379349344 519982 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, every one here knows brainfuck and everyone here knows quicksort < 1379349353 775432 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what can we do you for? < 1379349390 961412 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing. I was just asking ^^ But you can look at my program so far if you want. < 1379349395 331951 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1379349398 680759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a StackExchange challenge for it, with one accepted answer. < 1379349417 126001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's eminently findable with the search terms of "brainfuck quicksort".) < 1379349454 516823 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the hard part is if you're sorting an array in-place you need to remember the begin and end indexes of every sub-array you're "recursively" sorting < 1379349518 639555 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome S1 < 1379349518 822363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i just code it in c and use the c to bf compiler < 1379349521 342953 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0403S1: W02elc14ome03 to t12h08e i10nternational 06hu04b for esoteric progra09mming langu09age des06ign and d11eployment! For more in04form03ation, check out our w02iki: h14tt14p://eso06l03angs.o14rg/wiki/Ma06in_Page. (F10or the other11 k14ind12 of esoteri10c07a,10 try #esoteric on i13rc.dal.net.) < 1379349536 668278 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah that'd be cheatin < 1379349589 259891 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I split the array in two, then recursively run the programm on each of the new two arrays. < 1379349601 523173 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone had a nice environment wwhere you could name variables and stuff < 1379349617 472892 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then it replaces with the appropriate amount of > and < < 1379349617 691173 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I split it by moving the right part a few cells, so that there is some space in between. < 1379349625 678840 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO CHEATING! < 1379349628 162771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/c33227832138905c415ff573eae65a91/tumblr_msv9kcrYxt1sgh0voo1_500.png beware. < 1379349630 390642 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/pikhq/pebble < 1379349658 341192 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i write the compiler myself can it be not cheating < 1379349710 780684 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you want to write a c to bf compiler in bf? Well if you can do that without using one from the internet and without writing the c to bf compiler in c and then compiling it to bf it's ok. < 1379349714 121548 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be cheating to build a boat to enter a swimming contest? < 1379349740 875343 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: Depends if you're swimming in BF-derivates, I'd guess < 1379349743 128914 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1379349745 768918 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think it's ok for you to write your own compiler yourself... but you're not allowed to compile it using another compiler < 1379349750 749005 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i if i write a c to bf compiler in c and use it to compile itself into bf < 1379349766 12257 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that wouldn't work < 1379349769 909752 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come on I think I made myself clear :D NO COMPILERS < 1379349770 55031 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379349776 829130 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these requirements seem rather arbitrary! < 1379349795 798880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :truly, can we not say that i myself am a compiler of a description of an algorithm into brainfuck < 1379349819 240547 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that were true we'd have to kill you < 1379349833 846241 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! < 1379349843 36771 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No because you don't translate one thing to another but think about HOW to implement it in bf < 1379349863 398589 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the case: Human compilers allowed -_- < 1379349877 272504 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't "implementing program A in language B" mean compiling? < 1379349883 265103 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if you meet a compiler on the road, pkill it" -- lin chi < 1379349886 854500 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think so < 1379349934 862965 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1, no, it does < 1379349948 878343 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey is there a simple "move n cells to the right" algorithm in brainfuck? where n is the content of the current cell (and you don't want to destroy it) < 1379350010 908770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt it < 1379350041 490401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by moving the tape you lose all information on the content of n, essentially < 1379350041 772820 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can there be blank cells between the cells that are to be moved or am I allowed to create it? < 1379350084 154734 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it would be a good idea to use every other cell for the array, and every other cell to store intermediate stuff to move along the array < 1379350086 664725 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing on http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuck_algorithms < 1379350087 732124 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I don't get the problem exactly. Please write an example. A state before the program and a state after it. < 1379350088 955063 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how terrible. < 1379350113 861819 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in brainfuck you can only move information a bit at a time, i guess < 1379350135 604353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that bit has to correspond to whether or not some cell is zeroed < 1379350171 347095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably write something to turn n{n{0}} into 0{n{1}} [totally appropriate use of verilog syntax < 1379350174 357715 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1379350175 27054 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :]]]]]] < 1379350206 399644 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know I'm very uncomfortable with unmatched brackets < 1379350215 55727 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :« < 1379350254 916951 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379350272 16266 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :» < 1379350281 745832 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfiouuuu < 1379350340 88746 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\[/\]/g < 1379350353 956573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that looks so wrongm < 1379350355 544678 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :-m < 1379350373 463452 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if that's what your verilog syntax meant but you could turn (n)(x)(0) into (0)(x)(n-1) if every other cell is a tmp cell < 1379350403 433399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a bunch of tmp cells it's easy < 1379350407 266183 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus you've moved two cells right and the content of the current cell has been decreased; repeat until it's 0 and you're there < 1379350426 977480 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when I write the whole brainfuck program, I've got AN INFINITY of tmp cells < 1379350441 899041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so easy i'm confused why you asked < 1379350503 809621 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's horribly slow < 1379350524 255737 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need n^2 operations to move n cells < 1379350540 917671 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379350552 536814 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what screw brainfuck, I'm gonna write a sorting algorithm in thue < 1379350564 86966 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :True? < 1379350586 934990 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Thue < 1379350625 922544 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow... < 1379350715 608204 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: i'm fascinated about subleq right now < 1379350788 653515 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and lsomething if equal < 1379350803 836403 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtract and branch if less than or equal to? < 1379350814 594706 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero, yes < 1379350835 122218 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, everything is a pointer < 1379350868 425961 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one instruction set computing < 1379351102 738227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351116 113377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? my bot is dead??? < 1379351124 35439 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1379351127 669259 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351127 814519 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Cuttlefish < 1379351131 697363 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not < 1379351135 536004 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379351135 800745 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Small Accumulating" to "Attending" < 1379351136 242700 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip. < 1379351167 107620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his bot “Good bot. Yes you are.”
< 1379351316 722441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck cheese < 1379351316 953191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese definition: a food consisting of the coagulated, compressed, and usually ripened curd of milk separated from the whey. < 1379351340 32092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that doesn't sound very appetizing >_> < 1379351342 324310 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379351368 48001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tendon < 1379351368 193679 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tendon definition: a tough cord or band of dense white fibrous connective tissue that unites a muscle with some other part (as a bone) and transmits the force which the muscle exerts. < 1379351389 745826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when tendon sounds yummier than cheese, there's a problem. < 1379351419 22420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course, tendon in phở is good, but that's besides the point.) < 1379351506 40748 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm kinda disappointed < 1379351519 542688 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been looking for some thue-like that would accept variables < 1379351536 983073 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, some kind of pattern-matching < 1379351572 401397 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables how? < 1379351576 537633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I feel like we've had this conversation before < 1379351623 190652 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well variables may not be the best name < 1379351629 855510 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular expressions maybe < 1379351639 75105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: because Koen__ likes variables. < 1379351648 392274 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've had, Roujo < 1379351659 185420 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've looked up thutu and thubi < 1379351664 348277 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaand well < 1379351665 128986 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the tendon part as well < 1379351677 370622 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the closest thing to what I'm looking for is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Definer < 1379351711 688822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs tendon < 1379351713 137211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1379351718 820514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tendon < 1379351750 387792 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379351764 333685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: no, we never talked about tendons beforehand. < 1379351779 460835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: Definer has a very l-system feel. < 1379351799 423830 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ~duck < 1379351814 194266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-08-12.txt:18:43:00: ~duck i-esse-erre j'ai dit! < 1379351825 74691 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure that didn't work < 1379351898 313545 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ISR < 1379351898 469475 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isr definition: Israel; Israeli. < 1379351926 45427 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck asl < 1379351926 507967 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASL+ - An algebraic specification language by David Aspinall of the University of Edinburgh. < 1379352065 726491 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ok maybe < 1379352080 573440 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, I think all string-rewriting systems kinda feel alike < 1379352223 645592 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in fact l-system looks a lot more like Thue than Definer, in my opinion < 1379352330 695624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1379352342 647883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strokes his sandpapery beard stubble...
< 1379352540 608718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1379352683 798023 :S1!d9fcab5f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.171.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379352720 351314 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1379352903 294425 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379352913 267882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Quite, quite < 1379353233 512209 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353236 533651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353244 689395 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379353256 448574 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anothello ^^ < 1379353301 970725 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: would you say that, the ultimate purpose of a Snowflake program is to essentially produce an interpreter that does all of the work? < 1379353319 268736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: yes < 1379353341 372220 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think it's an interesting language < 1379353348 202811 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't fully understand the threads < 1379353356 738168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me a while to understand them too < 1379353381 775189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea is that fork splits every thread, spoon joins the split bunches, a thread can split into 0 threads but those 0 threads can still be split and joined < 1379353407 187164 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :do threads run in parallel as well or is that not a requirement? < 1379353407 467284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some entity (the shabby/decrepit threads) has to be added to track when that happens < 1379353419 221561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unobservable whether they run in parallel or in order < 1379353424 759087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the spec assumes they run in parallel < 1379353430 915933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in sequence < 1379353480 938340 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what I specifically do not understand in the different types of threads (shabby, tarnished, shiny and deprecated) < 1379353489 781818 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*decrepit, sorry < 1379353570 692698 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353589 926188 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, as far as I understand, you start with a single thread (which appearantly needs to have a parent as well, so you actually start with an infinite amount of threads?) < 1379353608 401495 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that thread can be split by a fork command < 1379353616 19603 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I recall, it's threads all the way up =P < 1379353650 459205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lobs a mine-turtle over at Roujo
< 1379353658 23538 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't really see what's up with all the different types of threads < 1379353720 851871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, say I have a thread and I split it into two threads < 1379353731 766484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I split one of those threads into 3, and the other into 0 < 1379353735 621051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I split each of those 3 into 2 < 1379353746 414322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the group of 0 threads has to also split into 0, again < 1379353749 701236 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379353754 551265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can undo those splits and should end up with the original organization < 1379353762 454395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite hard to track anything about a group of 0 threads < 1379353766 694959 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379353771 121052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I use a group of 1, with a different adjective, instead < 1379353813 726878 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379353837 488670 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does splitting into 0 threads work? < 1379353844 823020 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :halt? < 1379353868 25760 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like not actually splitting it < 1379353880 813902 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although adding a new 0 thread) < 1379353893 621910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: basically you just add a shabby thread < 1379353896 875286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which represents the group of 0 < 1379353912 291616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's pretty useful, you can use it to do conditionals < 1379353912 724814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is adding 0 to a number the same as not doing anything at all?" ~ Mao < 1379353919 951402 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say i think of shabbiness as a property of ropes, not threads < 1379353922 271012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't halt in a rereversible language < 1379353945 937641 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that different from reversibility < 1379353966 606689 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's different in that in a reversible language, the steps to reverse it don't have to exist within the language itself < 1379354055 487391 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so what's the type of a non-zero thread? Do those have a type at all. Or is it not the sero thread that this given this type? < 1379354076 857573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, running threads are shiny < 1379354110 344382 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no facility for entering comments, due for the tendency for documentation to get out of date quickly" i must say you do some crazy stuff < 1379354111 458402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :threads that running threads split from (and that running threads will eventually join into) are tarnished < 1379354111 604474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :groups of 0 that would be currently running if they had any threads are shabby < 1379354111 604677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and groups of 0 that more groups of 0 have been split from are decrepit < 1379354241 960963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see this is a snowflake discussion < 1379354246 688904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish snowflake made sense < 1379354254 889929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you start with a tarnished thread? < 1379354273 227005 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: you start with a shiny thread < 1379354277 466311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with infinitely many tarnished parents < 1379354283 68276 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1379354305 461596 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I get that so far. I still don't get the decrepit and shappy threads though :( < 1379354331 66027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically say I try to run FORK, with an empty list at TOS < 1379354331 250275 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split a shiny thread to 0 children -> 1 Shabby thread < 1379354339 609494 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION faxes boily a treasure chest
< 1379354343 631763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it splits into 0 children, which has to be tracked somehow < 1379354346 773146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Split a tarnished thread to 0 children -> 1 Decrept thread < 1379354350 886822 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decrepit* < 1379354356 53783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we create a shabby thread that basically just sits there and stops its parent running < 1379354362 488078 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see < 1379354366 368949 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you SPOON < 1379354371 841969 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when you split a decrept thread though < 1379354376 737085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote until you SPOON < 1379354380 682111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: AAAAAAAAAAURGH! need to mail the biscuits! < 1379354380 827860 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1106) until you SPOON < 1379354390 4198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: they don't split < 1379354392 130818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they aren't running < 1379354397 966178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the shiny and shabby threads split < 1379354405 742321 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379354429 945228 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay, i haven't gone to gorham yet. i'm probably a week away still < 1379354464 477948 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I think I understand now < 1379354474 194435 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1379354481 722187 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :interseting, but crazy < 1379354488 473641 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*interesting < 1379354490 323054 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I think that's the closest I can get to mailing something to a *ham. < 1379354522 237405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What if you mailed a ham to somewhere strange? < 1379354573 806492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. considering my mail karma, I don't think it's a good idea. < 1379354579 549393 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if elliott mailed SIX hams to somewhere stranger. < 1379354593 515540 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's overkill and you know it D: < 1379354595 130447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still remembers that time where we tried to mail yak cheese from China...
< 1379354615 257204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Express? Nahh, it's already rotten milk, how bad can it get?" < 1379354633 549853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i c wut you did thar < 1379354657 31965 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad somebody did. < 1379354674 134523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION curses Gregor
< 1379354677 347047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379354683 527251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed it >_> < 1379354691 471852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379354693 347953 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1379354709 742580 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No soap, radio! < 1379354723 209517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs, everybody laughs, nobody knows why
< 1379354742 219323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cool, not funny, not a good joke < 1379354743 918929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the problem is that the punchline is starting to become legitimately funny in random contexts through association < 1379354751 847751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which completely destroys its original purpose < 1379354763 189818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which by itself is becoming an antiantijoke. < 1379354769 773087 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Soap, no radio? < 1379354832 75920 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Soap -> Void) -> Radio < 1379354881 748411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Void is Haskell's name for the uninhabited type, right? < 1379354888 222525 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck void < 1379354888 519037 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :void definition: not occupied. < 1379354895 385916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the duck agrees. < 1379354920 531585 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WHITE SQUARE < 1379354922 399564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​□ < 1379354935 399274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1379354937 145822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1379354945 979450 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crap, the square isn't the same! < 1379354974 670899 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode BLACK SQUARE < 1379354976 378280 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​■ < 1379354976 945425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode WHITE MEDIUM SMALL SQUARE < 1379354978 767334 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​◽ < 1379354982 542618 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that looks white < 1379354982 688078 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's it < 1379354985 41866 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not black < 1379354990 931947 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah what < 1379354992 966296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh? `unicode is a new command? < 1379354997 479602 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode yes < 1379354999 359468 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'yes'" < 1379355000 577214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1379355002 131983 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") < 1379355010 309442 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode a < 1379355011 68729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yet another reason Python's whitespace thing sucks < 1379355011 672064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'a'" < 1379355016 463312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooh. < 1379355028 462483 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ùnicode A < 1379355030 47916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379355032 960999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode LATIN SMALL LETTER A < 1379355034 151813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1379355039 82532 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw a post on a forum a while back which was meant to be Python but the whitespace was destroyed by the forum software… < 1379355048 197162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: do you use dead keys on your keyboard? < 1379355048 655185 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER X < 1379355050 53443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GREEK SMALL LETTER X'" < 1379355054 232554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably have to type ` space unicode < 1379355064 696659 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK ZETA < 1379355066 66850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'GREEK ZETA'" < 1379355067 17862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER CHI < 1379355068 676856 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​χ < 1379355080 775232 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GREEK SMALL LETTER ZETA < 1379355082 97482 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ζ < 1379355097 651178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, that's what I'm supposed to do < 1379355109 726132 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just forget it often, since I don't need to do it to `run stuff < 1379355121 542802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379355126 134561 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should map all of my keys + Alt Gr to greek equivalents < 1379355130 746194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems there's an ŕ, but you need to use combining characters to backquote an r < 1379355134 216221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then again, that's by design, probably =P < 1379355137 629418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, grave an r < 1379355143 544967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a dead key? =P < 1379355164 836991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: key with an accent that you press in order to accent the next letter you type < 1379355166 922124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: si t'es sur le layout canadien français, c'est les touches qui font un accent, puis que t'appuies sur une autre touche après. < 1379355258 721095 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW SMALL LETTER ALEPH < 1379355260 315699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW SMALL LETTER ALEPH'" < 1379355260 499634 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1379355269 817874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, boily: Yeah, I have dead keys then < 1379355278 877569 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just don't work on consonants =P < 1379355284 509651 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe aleph is not a small letter < 1379355294 1386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :àèìòù, but `b`c`d < 1379355298 820890 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW ALEPH < 1379355300 447808 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW ALEPH'" < 1379355304 553016 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW LETTER ALEPH < 1379355305 813275 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'HEBREW LETTER ALEPH'" < 1379355309 739550 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give up < 1379355325 193768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't hackego like grep around for the closest thing that matches... < 1379355335 506645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CANADIAN SYLLABICS OY < 1379355336 904439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ᢰ < 1379355363 487240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UNMARRIED PARTNERSHIP SYMBOL < 1379355365 55578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⚯ < 1379355366 409110 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: As you know full well, HackEgo can do only what you tell it to. < 1379355373 461157 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :exact;y < 1379355379 440131 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode COMBINING ENCLOSING UPWARD POINTING TRIANGLE < 1379355380 839921 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⃤ < 1379355383 540912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes it can't even do that < 1379355387 777731 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run df -h . < 1379355389 778440 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on \ - 23G 22G 28M 100% /hackenv < 1379355402 44083 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yikes >_> < 1379355410 382519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's taking up all that space anyway? < 1379355415 534618 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats, probabl y < 1379355416 428124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du --si / < 1379355418 60117 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 /sys/fs/ext4/features \ 0 /sys/fs/ext4 \ 0 /sys/fs/cgroup \ 0 /sys/fs \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu/drivers \ 0 /sys/bus/cpu \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource/drivers \ 0 /sys/bus/clocksource \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/uml-blkdev \ 0 /sys/bus/platform/drivers/alarmtimer \ 0 /sys < 1379355423 652186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was useful < 1379355426 548469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du --si / | sort -n < 1379355435 439666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably going to time out :( < 1379355450 336224 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MONGOLIAN FREE VARIATION SELECTOR THREE < 1379355453 719103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​᠍ < 1379355457 922416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :du: cannot read directory `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ du: cannot read directory `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ du: cannot read dir < 1379355466 115516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run du / 2>/dev/null | sort -n < 1379355488 388086 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You won't be able to tell what's taking up the space because you can only see a tiny portion of a chroot. < 1379355490 353394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(normally you have to worry about reading /proc or the like, but the HackEgo sandbox means that everything is fine) < 1379355497 855418 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379355502 520669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: oh, I assumed it meant the /chroot/ was full < 1379355517 449427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed the sandbox wouldn't be able to see outside its own filesystem even with df < 1379355523 133414 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM < 1379355525 140332 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM '" < 1379355528 666967 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1379355549 311231 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379355552 989801 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Naw, df is just mounted fs. The chroot has no quota anyway. < 1379355569 704747 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379355571 138965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then the chroot might /actually/ be full < 1379355575 873505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably should be quota'd < 1379355596 874008 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naw, there's no point in quotaing the chroot. Quotaing HackEgo, yes. < 1379355756 324262 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chroot oerjan/ < 1379355759 64249 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: /hackenv/bin/chroot: Permission denied < 1379355761 803049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quota < 1379355763 211350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quota: not found < 1379355775 35572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the sandbox built on these days? < 1379355785 963944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chroot oerjan/ < 1379355787 992422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1379355827 93719 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there not a command or whatever for telling you the free space left in a filesystem < 1379355830 748049 :DHeadshot!~DH____@unaffiliated/dh----/x-6288474 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379355839 216646 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: umlbox, like it has been for quite a long time. < 1379355849 619114 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Uh, yeah, df -h, like I ran two minutes ago. < 1379355851 248159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's what it's called < 1379355950 785882 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379355962 706568 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379356189 611978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HEBREW LETTER ALEF < 1379356205 593197 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​א < 1379356207 326529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1379356248 228773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALEF SYMBOL < 1379356250 386515 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, alef, not aleph < 1379356256 828723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ℵ < 1379356274 556822 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ALF < 1379356277 393897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ALF'" < 1379356281 134673 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379356317 441251 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode '; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS;-- < 1379356322 810396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name ''; DROP TABLE CHARACTERS;--'" < 1379356341 936114 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM < 1379356343 775046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ﯹ < 1379356354 644703 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379356376 229475 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1379356377 469541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1379356392 527202 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SUNSET OVER BUILDINGS < 1379356394 203330 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'SUNSET OVER BUILDINGS'" < 1379356394 827716 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode RANDOM CAPSLOCKED WORDS < 1379356397 209611 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'RANDOM CAPSLOCKED WORDS'" < 1379356398 223664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE < 1379356399 373307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode TIBETAN MARK GTER YIG MGO -UM GTER TSHEG MA < 1379356399 982648 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE'" < 1379356400 910804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​༃ < 1379356409 119966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA < 1379356410 679889 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☂ < 1379356414 29362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAINDROPS < 1379356415 939152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UMBRELLA WITH RAINDROPS'" < 1379356416 84183 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f307/index.htm um excuse me. < 1379356418 566405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAIN < 1379356420 349236 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'UMBRELLA WITH RAIN'" < 1379356420 494743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode UMBRELLA WITH RAIN DROPS < 1379356422 260083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☔ < 1379356423 415032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, now! TEACUP WITHOUT HANDLE is U+1F375. < 1379356425 954554 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379356443 643304 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FIZZIE WITHOUT HANDLE < 1379356445 229466 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'FIZZIE WITHOUT HANDLE'" < 1379356450 193774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode GEAR WITHOUT HUB < 1379356451 917207 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛭ < 1379356456 255944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FACE WITHOUT MOUTH < 1379356457 184991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :🍵 < 1379356458 230250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'FACE WITHOUT MOUTH'" < 1379356463 622730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, too, should exist. < 1379356471 95403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: uhm. why would anyone need that. < 1379356471 299979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Time to upgrade the Unicode database?) < 1379356513 361658 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :any appropriate ASCII symbol for "xor" that's not ^? < 1379356549 999117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(+)" if you can go with multiple characters? < 1379356569 78086 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: ⊗ U+2297. < 1379356572 449838 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I can gowith multiple characters < 1379356581 835431 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not unicode < 1379356592 746199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1379356598 172719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know about (+), it's kind of silly. < 1379356608 888674 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "xor" is just fine < 1379356661 675904 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode XOR < 1379356663 787879 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⊻ < 1379356671 478386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's not ASCII < 1379356672 790916 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEVERMIND < 1379356682 104174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But still, apparently that's a thing) < 1379356785 154346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe ↑, that's ASCII(-1963). (Except it's really for NAND.) < 1379356807 149254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAND = XOR for some values, doesn't it? < 1379356810 500604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough for me < 1379356827 582344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For most values, even. < 1379356837 218337 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: != < 1379356849 644614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's always >< too. < 1379356856 19764 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo, nice < 1379356861 95653 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>|< < 1379356869 457028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=>|<= < 1379356950 498001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any 4+ punctuation symbol operators defined in the currently available Haskell libraries, or have the multiple developers stuck to at most three-character-wide ops? < 1379356999 816572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something ridiculensous, like ~+^.? < 1379357009 190405 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens has a few < 1379357014 86924 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ^@!? < 1379357027 899259 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and <<.~ < 1379357033 953645 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379357047 118703 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<%@= < 1379357049 30640 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is the new perl. < 1379357054 813438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is the gnu perl < 1379357056 474116 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't all of them, mind you. just a few < 1379357058 856393 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a whole bunch < 1379357077 324897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uikku syö muikun. < 1379357115 572497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui qu'où sue eux mou y coup ne? < 1379357146 782429 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: je ne même pas < 1379357172 12195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: google translate is no help here. «Grebe manger corégone.» < 1379357206 663752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corégone is best gone < 1379357230 596632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That seems to have been mostly correct. < 1379357261 323805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the English version has “whitefish” replacing the «corégone», and the verb is correctly conjugated. < 1379357288 478070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grebe < 1379357288 623665 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A grebe is a member of the Podicipediformes order, a widely distributed order of freshwater diving birds, some of which visit the sea when migrating and in winter. < 1379357293 813408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, French-to-English "corégone" says "whitefish", too. < 1379357311 567411 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have a feeling it's a Traditional Old Finnish Proverb in Harmony with Nature or Something Like That. < 1379357319 193705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just nonsense. < 1379357340 155765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps a humid salmon on fizzie
< 1379357381 181037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But fi:uikku -> grebe, fi:muikku -> vendace (which, I believe, is a kind of whitefish). < 1379357393 681927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course they have that similarity. < 1379357431 698108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those birds do eat fish. I'm not a 100% on whether they eat that particular kind. < 1379357473 59499 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, whitefishes are a kind of salmonidæs. < 1379357496 757799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lake trout: no lake, no trout < 1379357516 61384 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :o>O < 1379357527 503584 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps kmc with a large salmon
< 1379357539 228265 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might want to get that nose checked, trout < 1379357583 593513 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (<+?.*<$>?@%?.*<$>) = const in 3 <+?.*<$>?@%?.*<$> 4 < 1379357584 885014 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3 < 1379357613 473103 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck am i reading < 1379357705 748377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot am I reading < 1379357706 178588 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shouldn't ghc substitute enough things at compile time it gives " fnord" in there, either. < 1379357802 435133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you didn't see that. your brain is playing tricks on your eyes. fnord. hth. < 1379357810 825907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Oh, incidentally, for ridiculous operators... XMonad.Layout.LayoutCombinators introduces *||*, **||*, ***||*, ****||*, ***||**, ****||***, ***||****, *||****, **||***, *||*** and *||**, plus all those with either //, | or / in place of the ||. < 1379357820 533419 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how i missed that hth here all the time < 1379357827 964103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what. < 1379357842 559602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/xmonad-contrib/0.11/doc/html/XMonad-Layout-LayoutCombinators.html < 1379357873 585441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii operator art. well, I'll be damned. < 1379357873 730569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of stars gives the ratio in which screen space is divided. < 1379357888 495339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so wrong on so many levels. < 1379357911 202007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And || vs // is vertical/horizontal, and two-vs-one separator is draggable-or-not.) < 1379357922 193329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(****||***) = combineTwo (dragPane Vertical 0.1 (4/7)) < 1379357937 830995 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely, utterly disgusting and horrendous. < 1379357951 745124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if i want 5/13? < 1379357976 156589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Then you're outta luck, I'm afraid. < 1379357992 561853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thecodelesscode.com/case/109 < 1379358001 234409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should introduce *****||******** < 1379358067 214989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also the <&&> and <||> in XMonad.ManageHook (part of the core XMonad) do (just barely) fill your "4+ punctuation" requirement. < 1379358097 575406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :((<&&>) = liftM2 (&&), and the same for ||.) < 1379358100 860948 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379358119 704825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should put the threshold at 4.5 characters, as <&&> and <||> seem reasonable. < 1379358141 873721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah, I correctly guessed their purpose. the applicative/monadic variant of && and ||. < 1379358187 721400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: XMonad.Hooks.ManageHelpers comes with <==?, >, and -?>> too. (I think I've used that last one, which is why I remembered to go look for it.) < 1379358208 172708 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8==> < 1379358258 304552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379358260 386218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have left fat arrow, left weird existential fat arrow, right lean prickly arrow, right questioning prickly arrow, and then we have myname's dangling arrow. < 1379358316 672504 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get me wrong, i really like haskell < 1379358323 92861 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... < 1379358404 30190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1379358404 214801 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conservative, n: < 1379358404 214906 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished < 1379358404 214958 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the Liberal who wishes to replace them with others. < 1379358404 215003 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" < 1379358437 455249 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1379358464 373017 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379358469 208025 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379358469 353154 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379358749 969811 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. it's been a long time since I've asked the The Question to anybody. I feel... weird. < 1379358870 887996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask me! < 1379358872 115306 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASK ME! < 1379359038 17105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well... Roujo, what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1379359054 541892 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :null < 1379359056 964951 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1379359058 755546 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait wait < 1379359060 900254 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't it < 1379359066 828235 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :My script just didn't work TT_TT < 1379359081 19516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. your 何マクロ. < 1379359100 825629 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd /nani you, but I've heard that *that* script somehow PMs everyone in the channel < 1379359103 285752 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So meh =P < 1379359141 637096 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your script has that very interesting side-effect, maybe you could have a /hth >:) < 1379359201 37595 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kornbluth.freenode.net][421] Roujo hth :Unknown command < 1379359203 553163 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: btw, could I get a real body weigh for your entry? I only have "403", without any unit. < 1379359235 128080 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :403: Forbidden? =P < 1379359283 130292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prods Roujo with an automated squirrel feeder
< 1379359295 375006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 lbs, then =P < 1379359297 378922 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379359302 854491 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :More or less - it's been a while < 1379359316 766916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :merci! < 1379359324 552939 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pas de probl < 1379359326 544506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ème =) < 1379359636 529837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a tanebvention with actual results. < 1379359639 830249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Taneb < 1379359641 259894 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Taneb. Thaneb. < 1379359665 338556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any time, boily < 1379359683 323211 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any toily. < 1379359876 261374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1379359877 549350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1379359881 874730 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379359894 538096 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1379359925 493000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks  < 1379359927 140517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, . T. < 1379359970 120865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikello. < 1379360004 177075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bike hello < 1379360005 611464 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bike: not found < 1379360011 505413 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379360038 577106 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :We really should make it so that `run executes a random program if the correct one isn't found < 1379360123 142632 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: no < 1379360138 812400 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way lies php < 1379360171 893669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? php < 1379360173 986164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is preferred by 9 out of 10 idiots, and past elliott. Ask your GP today! [Website redacted] < 1379360187 900436 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what really < 1379360195 552894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you certify randomizing unknown HackEgo commands will lead to PHP? < 1379360203 968400 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379360236 108955 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I started programming with PHP. < 1379360249 50480 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379360255 355878 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was 8 < 1379360256 332866 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if that's worse than starting with qbasic < 1379360257 274120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: have you recovered? < 1379360258 418533 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thining yes < 1379360272 803660 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :qbasic is a pretty good way to start, I think < 1379360273 775015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with GW-BASIC. < 1379360295 387297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was nice how my normal windows system already had qbasic so i didn't have to deal with installing anything. < 1379360304 334111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with BBC Basic, unless you count pressing random keys in front of a Pascal interpreter when I was a baby < 1379360317 164506 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler+IDE, not interp < 1379360325 760282 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does windows have any built in ides nowadays? < 1379360330 424425 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody, think of the children. < 1379360334 476035 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with Visual Basic 2005 < 1379360363 615486 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: does powershell count? < 1379360375 766947 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh... i guess. < 1379360380 588935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I sort of remember pressing random keys on my dad's computer when I was 3 or 4 < 1379360386 436103 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know what they would have done < 1379360395 419447 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, not a lot < 1379360405 257379 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started with BASIC on a TRS-80 ^^ < 1379360417 760796 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was good at filling screens full of text manually < 1379360424 586369 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to talk about random keys i was trying to make a Frogger sequel in actionwhatever when i was like eight :p < 1379360438 61994 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copying pages of code from books I got at the library < 1379360440 930675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen animation of a plane crashing made by a child in ms paint < 1379360442 737231 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff imo < 1379360443 216643 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, that was fun ^^ < 1379360597 631189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I still have mine, somewhere at my parents'. < 1379360681 897591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=) < 1379360715 141510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379360823 136058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tell us about your childhood BASIC experiences. < 1379360861 347803 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Please do < 1379360954 679083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like, my dad is a (now retired) telecom engineer, and way back he went on this BASIC course, i think. < 1379360987 121906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he brought back a BASIC textbook (in swedish) < 1379361004 542064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that i actually learned basic before i ever used a computer. < 1379361056 882763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall i even wrote a complex number calculator of sorts. iirc still without a computer. < 1379361057 282416 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379361057 994601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379361069 946550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit unclear about that part. < 1379361187 456199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at one point my dad brought home a printer with a modem, with which we connected to a computer server of the telecom service. this was my first hands on computer experience, i think. also BASIC. < 1379361209 187489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, typewriter with a modem. < 1379361251 433597 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379361266 911087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i recall seeing an apple (2?) while on holiday visiting some friends of a friend of my mother. i think i made it display a norwegian flag. with BASIC. < 1379361278 711571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+computer < 1379361362 943367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple years later my dad bought an oric-1 computer, which i still should have in the storage in the basement of this building. also BASIC, which i played with for many years. < 1379361410 122668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible interference with the television you connected it to, btw < 1379361464 166349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you burned a norwegian flag onto some CRTs? < 1379361506 603615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cassette storage, which i basically never bothered with - i kept typing programs in fresh everytime. including a disassembler. i recall there was an assembly instruction reference in the manual, which was missing pages. < 1379361566 885336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um... < 1379361586 757048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6502 assembly, fwiw) < 1379361613 858597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was given a tutorial on writing asm for BBC microcomputers < 1379361619 91926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a big manual thing < 1379361619 237051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not a reference manual < 1379361619 899693 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was basically just full of examples < 1379361620 845987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and finshed with a 16-bit divide < 1379361624 480912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, BBC micro was 6502 too < 1379361706 419878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there were two cassettes with programs included, of which my cousin managed to destroy one with a magnet. the other was an adventure game named Zodiac, the cassette had a slow loading side and a fast loading side, the latter never worked. < 1379361710 936323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1379361737 752251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a text adventure < 1379361812 528719 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember copying a blackjack game from a manual. I never had to see the colour version of it, since the only TV at my disposition at the time that worked with the TRS was an old black&white ~12" cube. < 1379361821 974925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it might have worked with a better cassette player. < 1379361987 486769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote mandelbrot in it, i recall. < 1379362082 431142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after a while he bought an ibm pc. if it had basic i never found it. got turbo pascal and masm, though. < 1379362085 135104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the mandelbrot set looks great with floating point rounding errors < 1379362096 289349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the rounding errors look like little distorted mandelbrot sets of their own < 1379362114 204043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compatible, possibly < 1379362121 281229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: huh < 1379362164 170222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well the real set also has little distorted mandelbrot sets in it. i even recall some seminary in complex analysis at the university explaining why. < 1379362185 566200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're not entirely disconnected from it < 1379362189 789255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the rounding errors are < 1379362193 444489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379362219 556276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck little distorted madelbrot < 1379362219 701502 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362226 742798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck little distorted mandelbrot < 1379362226 888383 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362275 197636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am not sure that is the technical term < 1379362355 226145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck technically correct little distorted mandelbrots < 1379362355 411064 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362380 954822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wikipédia mentions a "distorted" in the article, but no explanation why. < 1379362391 824159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck the best kind of correct little distorted mandelbrots < 1379362392 113812 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379362481 368902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, _google_ also has turned into https... < 1379362531 437590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did google change or did IE itself change... < 1379362618 156866 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google has defaulted to https for a while now, I think < 1379362633 455976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps everyone got so fed up with the NSA stuff they decided to turn all the websites as redirecting http to https < 1379362652 121766 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/making-search-more-secure.html < 1379362655 171132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i haven't noticed before. < 1379362684 665164 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the NSA stuff claims to be able to break SSL under at least some circumstances, I think? < 1379362687 531667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's if you're signed in. i don't have an account. < 1379362711 984147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :break implementations of SSL, anyways < 1379362737 326484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i just found it a bit weird that google and wikipedia changed at nearly the same time, afaict < 1379362751 811625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and only noticed because zzo38 commented on the latter) < 1379362765 287918 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia did it specifically because of the NSA, iirc < 1379362771 191775 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the platonic ideal of ssl, that's still safe!! < 1379362773 981262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379362785 947514 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, shachaf is placated. < 1379362841 9716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: eh? < 1379362851 587779 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the "eh" at < 1379362873 272819 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379362909 751785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why is shachaf placated? < 1379362911 214258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he's just being canadian < 1379362912 531006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome iconmaster < 1379362915 446920 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07i03conmas05ter: Welc05ome to t14h07e 14international hub for esoteric12 programming l07anguage design06 14and deploym07ent! For more informat09io12n, check out our wik12i:02 03ht03tp://esol07angs.org/wiki/Main_Pag10e. (09Fo05r04 th02e other k04ind of e13soterica, t08ry #esoteric on i03rc04.dal04.net.) < 1379362929 316164 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because whenever an http wikipedia link is posted he asks for https < 1379362931 41089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also this. I have a canadian quota to fulfill. < 1379362936 335704 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oooooh. < 1379363029 569980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… the stereotypes of Canadians are quite similar to the stereotypes of Brits < 1379363066 20884 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shit, i just noticed "eh" as canadian. < 1379363126 702327 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… this reminds me of something bizarre I saw at a train station recently < 1379363130 159619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Canadians are a mix of Brits, Irishmen and Scotsmen, with Ukrainians and probably just about any other nationality. < 1379363144 579424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I'd have photographed and submitted to TDWTF if I thought of it at the time and owned a camera/cameraphone < 1379363152 927410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so are Brits ;) < 1379363177 240849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and then we have ass-backwards members of the Provincial Government that put forth a stupid «Charte des Valeurs Québécoises».) < 1379363209 689414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, it was showing expected arrival times for trains < 1379363228 570071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :including both 13:50 and 02:40 < 1379363243 470862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those trains were like 12 hours 15 minutes late, predicted < 1379363256 411833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume there was some stupid mishap converting between 12h and 24h clocks < 1379363259 2033 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh! mentioning Brits and locations and stuff, and then checking the File to see where you are from, it seems you still aren't in there. < 1379363270 692274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so... what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1379363278 620988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know my body weight < 1379363286 709503 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, did you just mix 24 hour and 12 hour notations < 1379363286 953097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can figure out the coordinates from my email address < 1379363292 525099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, the train station did < 1379363294 17738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1379363306 792315 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that's much less aaaah < 1379363317 448610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could interpret the 02:40 as 12 hour, but not with the times > 12:59 showing on the same board < 1379363325 384749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [ais523] (~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523): (this is obviously not my real name) < 1379363337 592192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, theory: the times were 12:50 and 01:40 in the 12 hour clock, UTC < 1379363344 989214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it added 1 hour for daylight savings < 1379363350 237471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: psst he's in birmingham, unless he's moved < 1379363369 718862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is stupid, but not as stupid as most of the other possible explanations < 1379363392 379600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's come up often enough i don't consider it secret. < 1379363396 240807 :S1!d9fcad9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.173.154 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363453 301100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll put that as a temporary answer. I'm using advanced devious social techniques to extract his email from the Intarwebs. < 1379363464 166960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379363491 67686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :techniques aka sending him an email through the Wiki. < 1379363501 430434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :devious < 1379363517 707136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that only works if he responds, right? < 1379363545 899392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I'm waiting for a kind response. it should come soon, no? < 1379363556 18774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: alternate method, start playing agora < 1379363556 978156 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily just has to craft an email ais can't resist responding to < 1379363561 249360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: re your email: hi! < 1379363564 642408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-iv- < 1379363568 440888 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow ais is good at this < 1379363576 316877 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to be more cleverer < 1379363587 100734 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. foiled again! < 1379363626 415739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote birmingham < 1379363628 489796 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379363630 708821 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear AIS, I am a general from the deposed Quebec Republic. I need to transfer a few million quedollars out of the country and would like to transfer to you if possible to avoid suspicion. You will of course be paid greatly for this service..." < 1379363645 885624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep -i birmingham wisdom/* < 1379363649 810507 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379363673 425715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION falls to the ground, laughing
< 1379363675 558915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our files are mysteriously missing all birmingham information. this can be no coincidence. < 1379363686 705825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that surprised me too < 1379363699 245930 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363704 955984 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-169.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379363705 101182 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379363745 16489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts on some Agora (http://youtu.be/1l6LE2yCdQ0), wears a +3 nightgown of ais523-seduction, and whispers “Give me your coördinates...”
< 1379363788 203300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think you are misunderstanding. i mean that if you played agora, you'd get to see some actual emails from him. < 1379363801 25896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you just read the archives < 1379363816 693082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some forms of the archives hide the email address < 1379363903 889600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :entirely, or just obfuscate it? < 1379363910 192798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1379363911 72964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're more likely to hide the ais523 bit than the domain < 1379363930 579215 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs .ac.uk < 1379363935 554509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in this thread I complain about #haskell in #rust and others respond by saying #rust can't have these problems because everyone is so nice! < 1379363939 902801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little grepping and whoising, I have Edgbaston. < 1379363985 408402 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if you could hire a sociologist to determine a good way to make people in a dedicated group like #rust not be shits < 1379363986 939483 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.29526 < 1379363992 570062 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :important research project possibilities imo < 1379364012 938382 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that didn't work. < 1379364035 717594 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except for all the "ais.*bham" in there i guess. < 1379364044 114621 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, well, well, well < 1379364059 762051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Edgbaston is where the University of Birgmingham is. < 1379364063 328751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well people aren't being shits now < 1379364073 773575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I don't think the problems of #haskell have manifested yet < 1379364081 566169 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379364083 323184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that whois mention gave me an idea, which unfortunately doesn't work. ais523, the address you gave on the nethack4.org whois gives me grave doubts of your lawful goodness. < 1379364086 131190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I brought them up as part of a conversation there, and now I kind of feel like I need to explain my view < 1379364096 254581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean "we're nice" is a classically bad solution to those inevitabilities < 1379364097 803812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you can't solve all community problems by being nice < 1379364098 957235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379364103 435265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I also have an axe to grind about #haskell so whatever < 1379364141 753500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it does say it's obfuscated. < 1379364145 968715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #haskell can't be all bad. I mean, the /topic was defined by shachaf! < 1379364190 200071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's tough because I think niceness is really lacking in tech communities and should be encouraged (see: linus torvalds is a dick) < 1379364194 741711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a panacea < 1379364231 850260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it reminds me of a friend I had who used to hang around the gitp forums, she was explaining how like, the rules basically mandated niceness, so what trolls/jerks would do is try to get other people caught by the rules < 1379364236 338793 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while sticking to the letter < 1379364238 690650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379364240 728023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379364240 873151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helliora. < 1379364242 169822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gitp?) < 1379364250 919090 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! Are the codu.org logs broken? < 1379364253 296023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: (guess exactly what happened on tvtropes) < 1379364271 828164 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(giant in the playground, apparently) < 1379364274 174434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think #rust could avoid the "information only available on IRC" problem, anyway, because Rust is still changing so fast that there is literally no time to write everything down < 1379364276 81581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: actually there was an epic troll on the gitp forums today < 1379364276 708001 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: try the [text] link instead, i don't know what's up < 1379364287 214194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck gitp < 1379364287 359676 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Order of the Stick From Left to Right: Belkar, Vaarsuvius, Elan, Haley, Durkon, and Roy. < 1379364310 181437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically exploiting the tl;dr phenomenon to make a lot of people look stupid < 1379364336 926641 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually raised a huge stink there once back when i cared 'cos a guy got banned for insulting someone who'd said something racist in a nice way for the thousandath time < 1379364351 302836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302960 if anyone's interested < 1379364365 586703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the first sentence, then scroll down to see all the people who didn't < 1379364369 758235 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to this day, classicists skeeve me right the fuck out. < 1379364490 863514 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is tarqin again? elan's dad? < 1379364506 700803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1379364527 453444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the joke is that he has a bunch of fans in the forum despite being obviously evil < 1379364548 351279 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1379364569 208155 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitp is in a universe where "lawful good" is part of physics, you'd think that would discourage that sort of thing < 1379364603 267754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's some sort of GitP versus TV Tropes war < 1379364615 738675 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, please don't tell me any more about this. < 1379364637 409856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379364644 446779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I find it hilarious, I'll stop < 1379364662 740387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1379364670 938376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway how about those esolangs < 1379364682 773180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well I did Snowflake < 1379364696 423119 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right i was reading that article before < 1379364771 941105 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... kind of hard to understand < 1379364773 110143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTA V comes out tomorrow < 1379364837 995338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Montréal's been plastered with stupid ads recently for that game. mainly boobs. < 1379364857 87333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379364861 484289 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :saints row is already parodying it, i guess < 1379364868 733820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's been the case for years yeah < 1379364877 665439 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean gta specifically < 1379364882 805744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like boobs, but I might be ambivalent to negative about their use in advertising < 1379364891 855449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an ais523 wall of text. i drifted off when it started explaining how the program modifies itself. < 1379364903 4461 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was kind of my reaction too >_< < 1379364909 53064 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, which reminds me < 1379364922 94983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to write an interp and a program, I guess < 1379364922 241995 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there any chance i could understand checkout if i made a little cpu on moy fpga < 1379364923 430460 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think that's bad try http://esolangs.org/wiki/Checkout :P < 1379364927 920836 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow snap. < 1379364929 937050 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :high five elliott < 1379364936 442325 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/moy/my/ < 1379364939 866234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, no fair, I can't keep Checkout straight either < 1379364954 875683 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm going to take that as a no < 1379364960 813455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas I have a pretty good intuitive understanding of Snowflake < 1379364992 843962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be clearer as two separate languages < 1379365000 197103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that's just the original language < 1379365006 114601 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one that does the self-modification < 1379365021 514941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but basically, it's as complex as it is because I wanted the language to actually work < 1379365393 720804 :S1!d9fcad9a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.173.154 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379365447 313550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0550321311002938#aff019 academia is great < 1379365571 541735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: uhm. the page, it is borken. < 1379365626 553453 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks fine to me < 1379365633 205013 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your browser isn't prepared for this level of authorship < 1379365665 441026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1379365670 507193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that averyone who worked on the LHC? < 1379365704 417276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a paper about the classification of finite simple groups with a similarly long authors list < 1379365733 684239 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATLAS_experiment sorta < 1379365763 162633 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says the finite simple groups paper only has a hundred authors. boring! < 1379365787 871536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not one paper. < 1379365930 504337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://i.imgur.com/hYxPyaR.png < 1379365952 758691 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does sciencedirect normall do that for you < 1379365977 82665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1379365989 989064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1379366014 839953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the home page is fine. as soon as I search for something, it borkenifies itself. < 1379366113 607508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe try that for screenreaders link? < 1379366139 235881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it spins... < 1379366151 548282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ur fuked ok < 1379366195 819724 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghc < 1379366204 37768 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379366204 343118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghc: no input files \ Usage: For basic information, try the `--help' option. < 1379366206 691677 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379366243 967818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: O KAY. < 1379366244 602082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'putStr "Hi!"' < 1379366252 503806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1379366297 463069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'print [1..]' < 1379366301 797442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111,112,113,11 < 1379366359 874006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good thread < 1379366363 298364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: should i read it < 1379366369 313287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1379366377 867216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ghc -e 'let s = show s in s' < 1379366383 334484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"\"\\\"\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\"\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ < 1379366452 648089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachello. < 1379366479 777247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1379366495 910137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't make up my mind about being in this channel now < 1379366601 748376 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to point out that I, Bike, am here < 1379366693 690256 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but you're also in #lisp < 1379366704 545242 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh snap...................... < 1379367078 249342 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you used to be #haskell "not anymore????" < 1379367094 345351 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was there for like five minutes < 1379367098 528639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sister is a big fan of the gitp forums it turns out < 1379367111 924205 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my fault < 1379367150 119454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever Bike is not in the room, all of the other characters should be asking "Where's Bike?" < 1379367155 535194 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: seems like #lisp is a nice place. «ARGH ELISP». < 1379367164 418077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379367166 39554 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379367241 937168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lisp 'lisbon) ; ==> t < 1379367251 508918 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: there is a pretty sad amount of smug vapid complaints about other languages, but i've seen that in every other language channel i've been in too so *shrug* < 1379367285 570678 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really advanced language channels have smug vapid complaints about their own language too < 1379367302 635470 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379367317 123705 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should just join ###biology and part all other channels < 1379367357 296665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('(':).(++')').concat) . inits) < 1379367358 192105 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[GHC.Types.Char]' < 1379367358 336068 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual ty... < 1379367393 434549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##bike still exists < 1379367406 16825 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('(':).(++")").concat).inits) < 1379367406 946482 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()((... < 1379367418 564701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379367422 923971 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it even allows people to join it, strangely enough < 1379367526 180054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate ('(':).(++")")) "" < 1379367527 123779 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:23: parse error on input `)' < 1379367546 925803 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever, then. < 1379367564 525336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the same thing though < 1379367567 459594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your lisp joke is so highbrow < 1379367572 351387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my what < 1379367585 41800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's oerjan's < 1379367585 186927 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is that what oerjan was doing < 1379367589 466377 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to see if i could fix it, lol < 1379367600 54755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> concat $ fix (map (('0':).(++"1").concat).inits) < 1379367601 37927 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01001100100111001001100100111100100110010011100100110010011111001001100100... < 1379367612 264680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379367613 1439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sequence is that < 1379367624 194589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck if i know < 1379367635 682443 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boily sequence < 1379367638 244602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Haynes1980/status/291958991704178688 < 1379367721 428813 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bbs.emath.ac.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=386 ← longer sequence subset, which has exactly 1 hit on google. < 1379367768 267487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what “你厉害 0100110010011100100110010011110010011001001,,,” means, but it seems the Chinese people are onto something... < 1379367773 953378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: googlewhack :) < 1379367842 801105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chinese children, even < 1379367965 662944 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who speaks one of the Chinese languages in this fine chännel? < 1379367966 3095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if you're wondering it's essentially a list of von neumann numerals < 1379367974 194200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck von neumann numeral < 1379367974 339560 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379367990 887559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you really should know that < 1379368001 378423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it's ordinal < 1379368008 391849 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck von neumann ordinal < 1379368008 537153 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379368012 844708 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379368026 260236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike died both from here and #lisp. < 1379368046 872099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_number#Von_Neumann_definition_of_ordinals < 1379368048 691137 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379368116 825465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't parse that. the mathematese is too heavy. < 1379368172 69392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0 = {}, 1 = {0}, 2 = {0,1}, 3 = {0,1,2} , ... < 1379368220 756724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. < 1379368229 621222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then remove the commas and turn braces into parens < 1379368253 261631 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it becomes underload programs! < 1379368280 428609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (())(:~:S:a*~:^):^ < 1379368280 573863 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S:a*~:^:~:S ...too much output! < 1379368282 802156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379368293 629879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (())(~:S:a*~:^):^ < 1379368293 775073 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()()(())()(())(()(()))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368301 782744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite < 1379368389 8816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people on #lisp seem to have a cheeky markovian bot too. fungot, how do you feel about that? < 1379368389 242508 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah. not really < 1379368424 356839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:a*:S~:^):^ < 1379368424 543131 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()()(())()(())(()(()))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368428 882111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379368457 958611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:a*:aS~:^):^ < 1379368458 103749 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(( ...too much output! < 1379368469 461807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I see what yeta did there. < 1379368475 939659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm missing one < 1379368494 217441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:aSa*~:^):^ < 1379368494 362690 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :() ...out of stack! < 1379368497 33131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1379368499 148853 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1379368503 503244 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1379368536 965984 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to know your bosomed < 1379368539 164834 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that means < 1379368547 146874 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're* < 1379368550 353719 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379368551 670978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I'm feminine. < 1379368556 637424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ()(~:aS:a*~:^):^ < 1379368556 782675 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(())))(()(())(()(()))(()(())(()(()))))(()(()) ...too much output! < 1379368562 619799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1379368600 537572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan managed to von neumann the von neumann while he von neumanned in a von neumann. < 1379368641 644664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight! < 1379368669 994425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which proves that von neumann was a smurf. < 1379369475 240339 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379369550 368994 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379369582 484626 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379369715 338971 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-73.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379369756 602003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Yonkie < 1379369763 316706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11Yonkie: 02Welcome to the 02inte03r07national 03h03u03b for esoteric14 programming languag10e design11 and depl13oyme06nt! For more info08rmation, c11heck 02ou05t our 06wiki: http://esolan08gs.org/wiki/Main13_P06a12ge. (Fo05r 12the other kind 06of e06soterica12, 05t07ry #es13oteric on irc.dal09.ne02t.) < 1379369882 792136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379369884 491863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379369889 15840 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another? < 1379369927 235623 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I missed the earlier one :/ < 1379369929 888041 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fault < 1379369938 269014 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this incident will be reported < 1379370087 4488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, sudo quotes :( < 1379370095 160507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has so many ridiculous quotes, and yet people pick that one < 1379370186 686633 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to find that it actually does report those incidents (if you e.g. configure outgoing mail), I got the report once < 1379370231 399516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I've got them too < 1379370243 132238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, I found them just sitting in root's mailbox < 1379370256 134358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get /why/ it reports them < 1379370266 592694 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you have to enable insults in order for sudo to give you the interesting messages. < 1379370271 321313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given how you could write a wrapper around sudo that makes your experiments go unreported < 1379370307 231065 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wouldn't that be a bug in sudo? < 1379370310 356495 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe anybody savvy enough to do that isn't going to fuck up sudo in the first place < 1379370335 146520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well people have found actual security bugs in sudo < 1379370349 223141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some way to get %n into a printf string was the most recent, I think < 1379370376 307830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would yo uwrite that wrapper? < 1379370383 293403 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@dhcp-128-189-201-73.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379370409 420368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo has insults? < 1379370453 269285 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudoers(5): "insults -- If set, sudo will insult users when they enter an incorrect password. This flag is off by default." < 1379370522 545962 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd think the underlying authentication library would log and report the failure regardless. < 1379370533 536084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sudo -l "$@" && sudo "$@" < 1379370541 496449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1379370571 366141 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379370664 923622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is mindbogglingly hard to test < 1379370676 707477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to all my non-sudoers accounts not having passwords < 1379370769 954974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot test security because it's too good < 1379370909 435080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I managed to lock up my copy of Mathematica several times on balloon-related differential equations, and subsequently got my IP address banned from Wolfram|Alpha for making too many requests. < 1379370910 263049 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379370937 795506 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the horror. < 1379370948 316869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to take this as evidence that Mathematica sucks ;) < 1379371012 222261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not /just/ my weird similar-but-not-identical-to-turing-machine automata that make its performance start really sucking < 1379371038 934916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/wkygDoR.png < 1379371043 594464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair it does seem pretty good for multimedia type things < 1379371072 94681 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: #drugz? < 1379371076 806196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379371082 978528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this must be those personalized google results I keep hearing about < 1379371090 536572 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the same actually :D < 1379371095 292664 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on image search, anyway < 1379371097 558345 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do i < 1379371098 960026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica is good at things that were considered when writing it < 1379371102 701172 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you've just corrupted us all < 1379371107 894225 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably one of the first non-general-purpose programming languages < 1379371119 542077 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1379371123 493709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically it's just a really optimized, large, library < 1379371128 166905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :containing lots of routines < 1379371129 34582 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've been complaining about matlab elsewhere. am i allowed to feel solidarity with you < 1379371144 619867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, matlab sucks in entirely different and unrelate ways < 1379371147 611219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unrelated < 1379371151 412159 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to cheer me up! < 1379371160 646865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i almost did a course in matlab < 1379371171 630028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to do a project with it, because that's what the lecturer requested < 1379371189 226204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was really hard to write the report in a way that covered up the arithmetic errors < 1379371196 418009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds awful < 1379371197 797176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I think were the result of stack smashing or something like that) < 1379371202 195033 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far i've learned that the "ones" function, that is described as just returning an array of ones, has over nine different calling conventions, several of which involves literal strings < 1379371206 40913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because it often crashed rather than getting the values wrong) < 1379371216 695584 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s < 1379371252 834185 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard bad things about matlab, like these things you're saying just now. < 1379371262 477987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHARGH! WHY MUST YOU BE FAILING ME NOW! all I want is /r/nosleep's top submissions for the past month! < 1379371263 443118 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur welcome. < 1379371290 642290 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also a hit from the same course: "spnet.cpp - C program to [...]") < 1379371290 837747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I've got it to dump Java stack traces to the console < 1379371292 863639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did about one exercise in it; that was enough to convince me that i never wanted to use it again < 1379371301 543529 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :source*, interesting typo < 1379371499 445550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t listArray < 1379371500 117416 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ix i => (i, i) -> [e] -> Array i e < 1379371532 722116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> listArray ((-1,-1),(1,1)) $ repeat 1 < 1379371533 761722 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : array ((-1,-1),(1,1)) [((-1,-1),1),((-1,0),1),((-1,1),1),((0,-1),1),((0,0),... < 1379371550 733311 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379371564 444816 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379371569 577652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: array of ones < 1379371587 116897 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well can you write a function that can return either an array of int8 1s or double 1s!! < 1379371746 86546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ones = listArray ((-1,-1),(1,1)) $ repeat 1; ones :: Num n => Array (Int,Int) n in (ones :: Array (Int,Int) Int8, ones :: Array (Int,Int) Double) < 1379371747 82455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (array ((-1,-1),(1,1)) [((-1,-1),1),((-1,0),1),((-1,1),1),((0,-1),1),((0,0)... < 1379371751 492665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: MAYBE < 1379371786 684205 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh i meant like «ones ((-1,-1),(1,1)) "Int8"» obviously < 1379371788 999286 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're failing me dude < 1379371810 597257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, no dependent typing < 1379371822 545968 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so matlab is dependently typed < 1379371824 981756 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is inferior. < 1379371828 263988 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379371905 325660 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to disappear in the Great Coldish Outside, while Bike sputters heresies. < 1379371920 344580 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget to bring your ix < 1379371930 980125 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will do. < 1379371935 405873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: poutine! < 1379371938 958785 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379372099 697665 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1379372198 13450 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :say I make a language that's essentially Thue but when you make a rule "original::=replacement", "original" is a regular expression, and "replacement" may contain "\0", "\1", etc., where \n means the substring that was matched by the nth group in the regular expression < 1379372213 513911 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that too much redundant with an existing language or is it ok to make a page for it? < 1379372222 718142 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379372731 917562 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: it's not massively interesting < 1379372737 546100 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a wimpmode Thue < 1379372748 678685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly a hardmode Thutu < 1379373030 485156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i vaguely recall it's been made already? < 1379373107 565236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, thutu of course < 1379373132 912745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379373211 159486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh REBEL < 1379373219 870044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't Koen__ mention that earlier < 1379373244 476588 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379373303 134132 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1379373337 431999 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i've never read the rebel page < 1379373383 110152 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime I decide to read all pages in the category string-rewriting, I quickly end up with a huge tree of pages to read (half of which from wikipedia) < 1379373402 983452 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are too many webpages in the internet < 1379373464 869414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1379373627 870978 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup that's exactly the language I had been looking for < 1379373635 504860 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :feeling less lonely now < 1379373651 734172 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1379373734 831662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1379374430 801545 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A great idea emerged #elsewhere. Make an easier variant for kids of a certain well-known esoteric programming language, name it with s/brain/child/. < 1379374548 810987 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad idea. < 1379374780 34195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great idea < 1379374973 630550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379375332 220230 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379376325 461638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379377451 515832 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1379377555 303037 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379378497 102024 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379379009 763594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379379222 978125 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1379380123 239935 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379380420 188112 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379380648 124605 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379380757 206279 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379381058 298093 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379381445 468834 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl makes me think of a wolf in sheep's clothing whereas Lisp is a wolf in wolf's clothing. Lisp, no one would try to modify someone else's code without trying to learn the language. Tcl, the language looks ... almost familiar, but if you don't know the language, there's a ton of things to screw up including possible security holes < 1379381468 206962 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl looks too inviting for how dangerous it is to try to write code without knowing the language < 1379381540 55324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've ever seen a picture of a sheep wearing clothes < 1379381601 603658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: interesting < 1379381867 242182 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a lot of languages can get like that sometimes < 1379381873 94079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if they're "C-like" or whatever shit < 1379381906 95345 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kocjan.org/tclmentor/5-why-double-evaluation-is-baaad.html < 1379381956 327566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, multiple evaluation is fun < 1379382140 773792 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :button $buttonname -command "puts $mymessage" < 1379382142 450148 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ bad < 1379382149 505728 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :button $buttonname -command [list puts $mymessage] < 1379382150 975596 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1379382155 218021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/fmm.html < 1379382181 72938 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :homoiconicity useful, huh < 1379382269 948760 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, are you trying to suggest Tcl isn't homoiconic? < 1379382279 413735 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379382307 74564 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just commenting a bit on using a data structure (if a simple one) making more sense than a string, is all < 1379382344 8155 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a list is a string in Tcl. < 1379382361 319411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... the list command's the better way to construct that string < 1379382391 510303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's annoying is that a script, several commands, isn't a simple Tcl structure like a list < 1379382903 652194 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379384108 590893 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379384221 779177 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, well, that's pretty weird. < 1379384314 231754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortuna_%28PRNG%29 < 1379384322 201815 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so incredibly easy for even me to understand < 1379384385 333084 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird how 'family of' means 'parametrized' < 1379384855 589101 :b4dh3r0!~b4dh3r0@cpe-72-130-9-25.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379386877 757138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://unicode-inc.blogspot.com/2013/09/henry-luce-foundation-grant-to-unicode.html "Henry Luce Foundation Grant to Unicode in Support of Encoding Tangut" < 1379386910 601756 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let’s form a foundation and give a grant to Unicode in support of encoding Klingon. < 1379386935 751025 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, I didn't know you could throw money at Unicode to get a new language in! < 1379386955 20633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah me either! < 1379386987 278552 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But clearly we should choose hieroglyphs and hieratics. < 1379386995 689319 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they not in there already? < 1379387000 99580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's times like these that I'm glad I follow the Unicode Consortium on Twitter < 1379387003 675036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nope < 1379387006 289777 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, i forgot 'tangutology' was a thing < 1379387021 789679 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Shockingly, no. < 1379387039 820945 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's like determining how many glyphs can be considered as a character as per the Unicode standard < 1379387041 330098 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOWAIT YES < 1379387041 831908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it's hard to remember that china is actually at least as diverse as europe < 1379387043 625046 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009 < 1379387047 865733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god. < 1379387063 920111 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for historical scripts like Tangut, it does take lots of works and also money < 1379387067 807168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the only sort of that text i've triedd to read were some old coptic letters. they didn't render but by god they had characters < 1379387169 393229 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so is that just hieroglyphs or also hieratics? < 1379387190 505598 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Defcon/comments/1jvnhb/maybe_a_dumb_question_regarding_the_documentary/ also what < 1379387571 234429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://threewordphrase.com/hostage.htm < 1379387789 314453 :SingingBoyo!~brandon@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379388040 613971 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379388074 262214 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379388141 763604 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379388604 683677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ibtimes.com/firefox-vs-chrome-mozilla-takes-top-honors-latest-web-browser-grand-prix-1330329 < 1379388610 940444 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was in the nonperformance categories like memory efficiency, reliability, security and standards conformance that Firefox was really able to shine. < 1379388617 80773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox? Memory efficient? < 1379389026 173735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I just downloaded this because you said my current browser did not support my Google+ account; just to read you are retiring it! Then why did you offer it at all for downloading? I hope there will be suggestions by Jan 2014 what browser does support Google+!" < 1379389030 825563 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[about Chrome Frame] < 1379391640 324705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah it's almost like when one browser gets better at something, the other manufacturers work to catch up < 1379391896 163050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define rand01 (0.9999999*double(rand())/RAND_MAX) < 1379392099 183405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I use Firefox at work and Chrome at home and I don't notice a performance difference anymore < 1379392103 829516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the work machine is pretty beefy < 1379392114 486042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome is still markedly better than Firefox on my pathetic pre-Atom netbook < 1379393420 191282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379393425 844033 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379393823 978188 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«fscanf( stream, "%d", &dd); post[i][j]=dd; fscanf( stream, "%f", &x); s[i][j]=x; fscanf( stream, "%f", &x); sd[i][j]=x;» < 1379394107 406949 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379394169 992405 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-61.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379394170 137895 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-61.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379394170 138034 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379394170 911389 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379394183 656484 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could you crack/attack this vignere cipher? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LdWfKLtP < 1379394235 895011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hire djb < 1379394266 873560 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :litrink: do you know the characteristics of plaintext? < 1379394281 411349 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Nope < 1379394370 578361 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hint I received was that the cipher was described in a book from 1553 La cifra del < 1379394514 203660 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it so far unsolved? < 1379394708 897783 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: yes < 1379394793 429813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this again < 1379394845 95425 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to note that my algorithm is constant time < 1379394861 392214 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What algorithm? < 1379394878 274107 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiring djb to do it for me < 1379394913 730291 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What is djb? < 1379394969 189736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this person is daakl / sdile / dlackili / sardig / mafingre / xantrixo / etc yes? < 1379394977 491110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore evading bans < 1379394983 675031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we got tired of your act a while ago < 1379395004 931221 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Which person? < 1379395007 10764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1379395022 406853 :litrink!8be620df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.139.230.32.223 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean? < 1379395066 150623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1379395100 766671 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :kmc > 1379395101 107728 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379395103 420514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com KICK #esoteric litrink :litrink < 1379395107 418598 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. 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:olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379399074 514305 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qubjusoitndbinoo QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379399075 726544 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session NICK :ssue__ < 1379399096 417138 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379399104 31574 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kevtazlzzwdkpcgt QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379399114 987404 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Excess Flood < 1379399136 27812 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379399143 259728 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379399461 669935 :ggherdov!uid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1379399626 331011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379399686 764460 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1379399950 392894 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 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:Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379405875 985020 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379406776 569086 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379407513 997351 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379409524 522804 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379410896 558646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Jura [a fancy coffee-grinding-and-brewing-machine in one of the department break rooms] is undergoing maintenance as of today. Coffee substitute (also known as regular coffee) is available during Jura's hopefully short absence." < 1379410905 923085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those people take their coffee very seriously. < 1379411606 744023 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379412102 726607 :itsy!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net NICK :john_metcalf < 1379413227 117613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379413805 396836 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379414815 226769 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379416690 289778 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379418808 687561 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379418857 745769 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379418868 914562 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379418944 313699 :ambiltrif!65a6b903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.185.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379418950 961305 :ambiltrif!65a6b903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.185.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/L5da2KjQ I am making a tic tac toe game in C, How can this code/algorithm be made better? < 1379418955 530169 :ambiltrif!65a6b903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.185.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or can someone show me a better/alternative approach? < 1379419067 288457 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw you included stdlib.h but I don't think you're using it < 1379419126 723056 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you're deciding which player is at turn by looking at what symbol they put in the grid? < 1379419143 621354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm smelling mafingre too < 1379419162 97578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the ip is australian. but he may have learned. < 1379419261 752129 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379419337 741034 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379419364 681915 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379419411 396312 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379419416 973013 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379419464 319584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are him _and_ litrink, then you are getting hard to ban. < 1379419500 580466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously banning all of freenode's web gateway is unacceptable. < 1379419583 888288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1379419816 501561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i wish i'd seen this before. < 1379419868 394764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that some other relevant ops were actually not idle. < 1379419899 555472 :ambiltrif!65a6b903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.185.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: Yes I am doing that. < 1379419926 743048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs ambiltrif < 1379419938 948086 :ambiltrif!65a6b903@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.166.185.3 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what? < 1379419949 272057 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let xo s=let[p,q]=(show=<<).(`elemIndices`filter(/='|')s)."XO";i(n,[])=":-"++["(|O"!!(n+1)];i(_,q)=c q."012|345|678"++if w q then" :-)"else"";c q x|x=='|'='|'|elem x p='X'|elem x q='O'|True='.';w p=ap(==)(sort.intersect p)`any`words"012 345 678 036 147 258 048 246";n=first(0-);x a b p q|w p=(1,[])|w q=(-1,[])|True=z$(:p).(['0'..'8']\\union p q)where z[]=(0,[]);z m=foldr y a m;y p a|a 1379420109 646566 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379420114 293013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric ambiltrif :ambiltrif < 1379420148 422593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +bprt :#esoteric!*@* > 1379420148 437388 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379420150 993742 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let xo=let[p,q]=(show=<<).(`elemIndices`filter(/='|')s)<$>"XO";i(n,[])=":-"++["(|O"!!(n+1)];i(_,q)=c q<$>"012|345|678"++if w q then" :-)"else"";c q x|x=='|'='|'|elem x p='X'|elem x q='O'|True='.';w p=ap(==)(sort.intersect p)`any`words"012 345 678 036 147 258 048 246";n=first(0-);x a b p q|w p=(1,[])|w q=(-1,[])|True=z$(:p)<$>(['0'..'8']\\union p q)where z[]=(0,[]);z m=foldr y a m;y p a|a 1379420321 78287 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379420332 787914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... < 1379420343 177519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@a:perdent > 1379420343 188577 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379420348 574214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong order. < 1379420860 133869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i hope i was not wrong in concluding ambiltrif was another mafingre etc. troll nick, but combined with the lintril earlier today the style seems extremely similar. < 1379420887 200374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*litrink < 1379420921 762287 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379421105 730337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm that was the wrong syntax, sheesh < 1379421121 449768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@a:perdent > 1379421121 651052 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379421128 512427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :$a:perdent > 1379421128 528278 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379421145 155749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. i hope. < 1379421149 376813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1379421149 399528 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379421259 724503 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how's he a troll? he was just asking a question about tictactoe :( < 1379421312 755535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: Also spamming the same question to all manner of unrelated channels. < 1379421317 486908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: he's identical to someone who has been trolling before, with stupid off topic stuff. < 1379421344 166641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least ##asm of the channels I'm on. < 1379421346 431348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh did you see it in other channels? it would really help if people _told_ me this stuff as i'm only in a couple. < 1379421375 362232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. nails the evidence completely, then. < 1379421473 547979 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let xo s=let[p,q]=map((show=<<).(`elemIndices`filter(/='|')s))"XO";i(n,[])=":-"++["(|O"!!(n+1)];i(_,q)=map(c q)"012|345|678"++if w q then" :-)"else"";c q x|x=='|'='|'|elem x p='X'|elem x q='O'|True='.';w p=ap(==)(sort.intersect p)`any`words"012 345 678 036 147 258 048 246";n=first(0-);x a b p q|w p=(1,[])|w q=(-1,[])|True=z$map(:p)(['0'..'8']\\union p q)where z[]=(0,[]);z m=foldr y a m;y p a|a xo "...|.X.|..." < 1379421509 212618 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "...|.X.|..O" < 1379421753 130643 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379421778 396478 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-116-164.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379421778 541920 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-116-164.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379421778 541991 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379422107 19463 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379422113 326915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: KERNEL! < 1379422219 954943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379422329 898711 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379422362 194986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good Linux for Workgroups morning! < 1379422382 166653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good afternoon < 1379422481 765334 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :guten moily < 1379422545 821939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :クイント早う。 < 1379422685 812159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't read that < 1379422697 251561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1379422763 359447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quintohayō. < 1379422785 335762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie What is a coyote? < 1379422785 481221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379422817 179594 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sends a coyote after lambdabot
< 1379422894 764453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1379423007 943890 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379423062 96728 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379423062 498226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn coyote < 1379423063 782002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "coyote" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1379423063 927701 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :coyote < 1379423063 927883 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: small wolf native to western North America [syn: {coyote}, < 1379423063 927987 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {prairie wolf}, {brush wolf}, {Canis latrans}] < 1379423063 928089 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: someone who smuggles illegal immigrants into the United < 1379423065 783959 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[3 @more lines] < 1379423084 407293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For some unknowable reason, it's the default quit message of bip.) < 1379423116 721597 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379423125 674302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bip bip obvious if you know < 1379423126 744731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wile e. coyote? < 1379423193 129824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh double version < 1379423199 732401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379423271 554536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, for some reason I didn't realize it could have been named after that. < 1379423380 329584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some unknowable reason < 1379423566 617512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, my C is rusty and all, but you could write «fscanf( stream, "%f", &x); v[i]=x; fscanf( stream, "%f", &x); u[i]=x;» as «fscanf(stream,"%f%f",&(v[i]),&(u[i]))» or something, couldn't you? < 1379423618 800778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming the types of x and v[i]/u[i] are not different. < 1379423639 799250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can divide an array by an array in rust? < 1379423645 545259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The parens in &(v[i]) are also not strictly necessary.) < 1379423677 255255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/not different/all 'float'/. < 1379423678 132150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, actually x is a float and v and u are double [arrays] < 1379423683 805796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then you can't. < 1379423693 106009 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the former do, then? < 1379423704 254774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reads a float, converts it to a double. < 1379423715 998255 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you do (float)&(v[i]) and so on? < 1379423716 143644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it "%lf", &v[i] to read a double directly, but it wouldn't be exactly same. < 1379423719 705982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1379423743 786528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(float)&v[i] would be incredibly wrong, because it would try to convert the pointer to a float. < 1379423753 79409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, float*. < 1379423760 45441 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i'm guessing still no. < 1379423760 860190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would not help. < 1379423782 765067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would still write a float in an array of doubles. < 1379423796 606279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cast cannot change the underlying representation of the pointed to array < 1379423817 708432 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading it as double with "%lf" is arguably better (you don't have the accuracy loss of the float intermediary), but not an equivalent operation. < 1379423852 162387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's a judgement call whether the original author wrote it that way because he/she wanted the float semantics, or because he/she just didn't know about %lf. < 1379423888 643697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :given this is the "C program" called .cpp i'm inclined to the latter < 1379423925 914342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there's similar code later but with %d and int. < 1379423943 141310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that case, fscanf(stream, "%lf%lf", &v[i], &u[i]) might be a reasonable replacement. < 1379423957 421790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I suppose there's no checking of return values either?) < 1379423982 792888 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what kind of application would you want it to go through float, anyway < 1379423994 1348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Checking? < 1379424002 132120 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379424051 515885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of an example other than "bug-compliant reimplementation of X", but that doesn't mean there isn't any. < 1379424069 212719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes you might need exactly identical results. < 1379424096 670368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, well, thanks. < 1379424111 349031 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you mean checking whether fscanf actually reads enough values then no) < 1379424117 619886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1379424399 329057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have audio files with transcripts where each line has one word along its start and end times. Now I'd need to inspect whether they are correct by some random listening. Do you happen to know of any useful software for this, and/or some easily-scriptable Python-or-something audio-playing library that'd make it easy to whip up code that, say, prints out the text one word at a time, sync'd with ... < 1379424405 333439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the audio? < 1379424465 23339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gstreamer. strangely, the amount of effort to bootstrap a minimal audio player with it is very small. < 1379424568 734083 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrr... "To use this software you need to restart your computer" < 1379424584 882632 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1379424585 816965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. I wonder if mplayer/vlc can display subtitles for audio files. It would be very simple to convert those files into .srt or something. < 1379424639 807689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "subtitle" menu seems to be grayed-out in vlc for a .wav. (But I suppose it would be reasonably simple to multiplex in a black screen.) < 1379424699 979454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiplexing seems to be the way, but mencoder is a pain in the fungot. can vlc be used for this kind of task? < 1379424700 332017 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: any web page that lame is not to require heap in low memory. i think < 1379424754 313277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there needs to be something as simple and straightforward as imagemagick's convert for scripted video authoring. < 1379424788 697635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's ffmpeg/avconv. < 1379424797 291239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. didn't know about that. < 1379424821 177355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can (probably) use a single image as a single-frame "video" and have it loop the shorter file. < 1379424950 724264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, a plain avconv -i black.png -i sound.wav -acodec copy -vcodec mjpeg test.avi seems to have worked. < 1379425147 994534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: What about sea monkeys < 1379425237 255339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I suppose doing an s/avconv/ffmpeg/ will work too, as it seems I am still on the unforked side of the fforce. < 1379425319 546403 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379425642 410213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SUB: Could not determine file format" grumble grumble. < 1379425653 750854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :VLC showed a subtitle track, but did not display anything. < 1379425690 372553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's because there's only one video frame. < 1379425749 669752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"video:5kB audio:546403kB" heh. < 1379425847 473546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need more black screens. < 1379425848 764717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "avconv -loop 1 -i black.png ..." makes a more proper video. < 1379425912 333894 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379426034 209548 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, it works. And the alignment was reasonable, for the first minute. < 1379426085 900827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat out.txt | grep -v '^$' | grep -v '^#' | perl -ne 'BEGIN { binmode STDOUT, ":encoding(ISO-8859-1)"; binmode STDIN, ":utf8"; } chomp; ($s,$e,$t) = split; printf "%d\r\n%02d:%02d:%02d,%03d --> %02d:%02d:%02d,%03d\r\n%s\r\n\r\n", ++$idx, $s/3600, ($s/60)%60, $s%60, ($s*1000)%1000, $e/3600, ($e/60)%60, $e%60, ($e*1000)%1000, $t;' > out.srt < 1379426086 361657 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379426091 383913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very elegant. < 1379426183 518025 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379426213 203118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is disgusting. you could have replaced the cat|grep|grep with «grep -Ev '^$|^#' out.txt». < 1379426278 747190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, the perl is... well, it's perl. < 1379426334 284325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(urgh. I'm being corrupted by my sysadmin coworkers...) < 1379426811 736490 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379426954 415326 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379427365 810896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, you know what they say... < 1379427466 167147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: they say not to do stupid things to the poor machines, or else your disk quota will be reduced and your VMs crippled. < 1379427504 185432 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it goes < 1379428879 4956 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379430288 320690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random Haskell question: why should datatype fields be strict? < 1379430329 80004 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379430445 487256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-06-molydeux-one-of-the-reasons-molyneux-left-microsoft < 1379430463 46250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if molyneux realises he's become a parody of himself < 1379430575 643039 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1379430815 783018 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379430873 799637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freeń dobry. < 1379430895 718953 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dzień you mean? < 1379430910 749945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :DzieFull < 1379430977 618549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a bout of internationalised greetings a few hours ago. < 1379431036 816617 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how do i greet someone in quebeckqcqois < 1379431058 600151 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops forgot my accents: québèckqçqöis < 1379431104 402733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: same as in standard French. happens that we still haven't butchered greetings yet... < 1379431121 331705 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1379431127 652216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and I'll have to remember that créatif spelling of québèckqçqöis.) < 1379431187 953981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: well. you have «comment va?», between people from Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean. otherwise, the province-wide «pis, à part de tsa?» is another clasic. < 1379431235 577334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they are neither very close to «bonjour» and «bon matin». < 1379431572 766439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally don't bother to optimize one-off command lines, but instead write them the way I think them. < 1379431596 672362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I could've obviously replaced both greps with the perl. < 1379431757 280180 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1379431820 188001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to learn basic Estonian. it looks like it sounds good. < 1379432842 389033 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379433121 633750 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379433231 900807 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379433657 16656 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379433728 329855 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379433853 759654 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379434258 846173 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, isn't it just hipster finnish < 1379434324 614875 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I have a dwarf fortress badge < 1379434328 288647 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't quite know how < 1379434478 745062 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379434703 318613 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379434801 569003 :Yonkie_!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379435025 933134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, as in an actual badge < 1379435051 809510 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, design attached to a safety pin type thing < 1379435058 712859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1379435061 365474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want one < 1379435072 176283 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1379435096 956443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let me have it then < 1379435106 2579 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's mine < 1379435107 680426 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found it < 1379435110 779144 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my bedroom floor < 1379435141 860763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll stop by in york then < 1379435156 147561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a sack of bricks < 1379435264 353676 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in York yet < 1379435272 32448 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Term starts stupid late < 1379435314 95938 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how stupid < 1379435360 25529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, really? it's practically october. < 1379435382 21494 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :term starts mid-november here < 1379435418 61317 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible < 1379435422 793853 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hey your underscores are gone < 1379435435 572372 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1379435443 88037 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME TO REGISTER < 1379435447 325984 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for telling me < 1379435469 710464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of many lovely services i provide < 1379435478 436827 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NickServ: Koen is already registered. < 1379435486 344658 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1379435489 723346 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1379435498 644761 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to never log out and hope I don't get ghosted < 1379436426 235189 :DzieFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :FreeFull < 1379436506 871999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Last seen : Sep 17 06:09:05 2013 (10 hours, 39 minutes, 0 seconds ago)" it's not even an inactive account. < 1379436912 504025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well... there may be that... >_>... < 1379436919 309869 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he's usually ALWAYS connected < 1379436929 722131 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379436950 743937 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by connected I mean logged in < 1379437197 336615 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:59:22 except the ip is australian. but he may have learned. < 1379437211 903047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan mafingre is always australian. but different ISPs (sometimes mobile broadband, sometimes university, it seems) < 1379437212 57581 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379437258 85702 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/weird-future/2acc5ba75929 very nice. < 1379437264 33050 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan my suggestion is anyone who comes in on webchat with an australian IP and links to pastebin.com, it's almost certainly them. if they evade the question of whether it is then you can discard any remaining doubts < 1379437264 178606 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379437276 10047 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan also I really wish they'd go away, it's not very fun any more. < 1379437276 194359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379437284 775362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The roots of this division are sadly rooted in humanity’s pre-history. On the plains of our ancestors, male hunters roamed the savannah, chasing down prey, while women remained home to nurture families and gather berries. The males adapted for big movements and fast action, while the women adapted for slow, methodical searching. The traits that made women expert bug-huntresses in the dust have carried forward and given them an advantage a < 1379437323 341551 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan oh and the IPs have geolocated to both Perth and Victoria, seemingly moreso the latter. so there may be proxying going on, or maybe Australian internet is just weird. < 1379437323 486675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379437445 146886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you discussing the ion lickers? < 1379437449 742454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is that blog??? < 1379437460 741052 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the challenge-givers :P < 1379437468 707556 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the licker gave up quickly, it seems. < 1379437526 749858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have a slight little itty-bitty technical problem with metasepia. I registered the account with a randomly generated 14-char password. < 1379437535 242006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a password I have completely forgot.) < 1379437581 263786 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: looks like they have no about page.. < 1379437615 116480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/weird-future/4927989f3ecd i'm thinking it's a good one, though ("Six Radical Life-Extension Technologies for Transhumanist Consideration") < 1379438068 537601 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: extract it from the binary? < 1379438130 208068 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379438340 661061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you remember your account password at all? < 1379438341 17058 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's quack? i dont see a specific use of it, i'm afraid < 1379438905 105698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's not used from metasepia, it's just the freenode account I created afterwards... < 1379438934 339219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :think I can tell the guys at FN to reset the password for me, once I put the code on github and proove some legitimacy? < 1379439427 822297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379439447 197321 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, FN is the swedish acronym (abbreviation? initialism?) for UN, so for a while there I thought you would try to get the UN to reset your password < 1379439454 928965 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have lost my name < 1379439489 931169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :salparot__: that could also work. also, were you `relcommed? < 1379439517 882445 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got here before relcome < 1379439527 190599 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se NICK :olsner < 1379439577 986260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION falls back in surprise
< 1379439948 351349 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379439972 281374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! someone I know! < 1379439983 107815 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello. < 1379440038 590874 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379440048 196081 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or should I say... < 1379440053 113235 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bohily < 1379440509 777805 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-45.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379440678 553203 :bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379441092 290392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bollo" would also be fine. < 1379441128 647749 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bollo? < 1379441179 3675 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Streaming Dwarf Fortress @ 120x40 characters, telnet termcast.org < 1379441223 758748 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome, how is that done? < 1379441226 163180 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I'm not, I messed up the init.txt < 1379441229 581037 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still 80x25 < 1379441257 86463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you playing real-time at this very moment right now, or is it prerecorded? < 1379441258 331040 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what software is the streaming solution < 1379441268 920038 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd love doing something like that myself < 1379441285 710781 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-45.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1379441304 833322 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-45.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379441304 978930 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379441431 270210 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, stupid question < 1379441448 447515 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there appears to be some kind of ascii game playing itself in my console but I've got no idea what is going on < 1379441497 270723 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't know the great game dwarf fortress? < 1379441505 304764 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1379441523 495154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DCSS is better than dwarf fortress :D < 1379441539 824565 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most complex and genious game i ever played < 1379441551 556432 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: it's not playing itself, I think Taneb is playing it < 1379441552 422508 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i didn't got the hang of it, but it's hilarious < 1379441595 492543 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i find cataclysm really interesting < 1379441614 69166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: which one? DCSS or DF? < 1379441720 498014 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379441742 150038 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF is way better than DCSS < 1379441758 491125 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "oh no is he making danger rooms..." < 1379441776 830423 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you try cataclysm dda? < 1379441779 443064 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no I'm making a cunning trap < 1379441798 283215 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played cataclysm but not the fork < 1379441816 980513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your dwarves have oddly turkic names... < 1379441838 602084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with bits of Hungarian thrown in for good measure) < 1379442375 375418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Continuing from yesterday, a search over the Cabal Hoogle database locates the following >3 character operators: http://sprunge.us/PfCe < 1379442384 743194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^#->#? seems like a good one. < 1379442398 134972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly I should try getting the packages in the above list.) < 1379442554 573953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel watched by <<..>> ... < 1379442694 12570 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::$#$#$#: is a joke, right? < 1379442732 874578 :bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Quit: fail/death < 1379442877 563926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://sprunge.us/bSiZ < 1379442906 13299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: might be misattributed, based on just looking at a previous "^module (.*)" line.) < 1379442991 538054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And :$#$#$#: is indeed in http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/she/0.4/doc/html/ShePrelude.html#t::-36--35--36--35--36--35-: < 1379443073 405694 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379443084 113262 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Composition has a kind of a cadddr thing going on there. < 1379443096 189026 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Plumbers is pretty outrageous. < 1379443121 804611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a many operators. < 1379443148 232813 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I seem to have messed up with commas in that new list, have to fix that. < 1379443268 568762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIB (http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/not-in-base/0.1.1/doc/html/NIB-Pointfree.html) provides some ingenious atrocities. < 1379443525 775820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/MOWM -- one more version, sorted firstly by length of operator (reversed), secondly by the module in question and thirdly by the operator string -- should keep related operators grouped better. < 1379443609 712720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the +~--- and ---~+ of BioInf.RNAfold. < 1379443629 619684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pages and pages of supermarioperators... < 1379443653 416180 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a supermarioperator? < 1379443670 223590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lens is pretty well represented too. < 1379443703 130748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn supermarioperator is one of many confusing operators as defined in Control.Plumbers.Monad. Your sanity is in another castle. < 1379443714 957488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379443730 130332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that a joke about lens and representability < 1379443754 495614 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be if you think a joke like that would make me look smart! < 1379443758 343585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But it wasn't, before.) < 1379443810 627752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bro, do you even lens? < 1379443810 995895 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s/ had/ have/ the epiphany address bar. < 1379443857 298698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379443858 768406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379443933 538627 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pdf is missing the last few quotes... I need to find an easy way to synch it with the repo... < 1379443956 937347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, the operator length distribution: http://sprunge.us/GFTH (doesn't merge identical ones, otherwise the '1' would be pretty lame) < 1379443971 710995 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1379443979 607849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I must also do a most-defined-operators thing. < 1379444014 854050 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379444093 266016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/XhVd there you go. < 1379444173 957267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gUOX (all (!)s) < 1379444242 368172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess <> comes from it not being defined in olden GHC distributions? < 1379444322 526353 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. holy uninputable unicode operators, batman! < 1379444323 533730 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379444326 385217 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379444501 437727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1379444501 764110 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379444508 508046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12738 < 1379444662 852375 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379444675 172533 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Best idea ever: add git commit hooks to > and >> < 1379444700 838954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`git < 1379444702 61007 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: git: not found < 1379444708 692905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1379444714 101953 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we install git on HackEgo? < 1379444729 484157 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego uses hg, you horrible being < 1379444756 77020 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we wrap HackEgo in git, then? < 1379444763 512591 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would be sooo easy to just push the new wisdom files to GitHub! =P < 1379444817 328631 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379444840 714505 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379444849 873096 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1379444850 197019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1379444860 217459 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: see: that < 1379444877 154400 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I klnow < 1379444879 374069 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :know* < 1379444917 770614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to think of a way to be able to push changes in wisdom/ to GitHub < 1379444924 937338 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you have commit access to the wisdom repo. < 1379444932 872980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I know, thanks < 1379444952 631864 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *could* just pull from HackEgo, then push to GitHub =P < 1379444957 584799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the sky is blue. < 1379444969 53945 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I know, thanks =P < 1379444971 625640 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379444995 189572 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch cat < 1379444996 276540 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget: unable to resolve host address `cat' < 1379444999 583695 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crap < 1379445058 367280 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you expecting < 1379445064 833699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: calamari is delicious. gravity curves light. russia is the most translated wikipédia article. Phantom_Hoover likes the diæresis. fungot is weird. < 1379445064 984791 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ( begin ( < 1379445069 474925 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For HackEgo to find my cat >_> < 1379445213 625387 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain wget'ing the quotes takes forever < 1379445215 283917 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1379445253 48342 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain s/quotes/wisdom files/g < 1379445254 402916 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1379445284 570798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1379445288 801461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't just download the quotes < 1379445291 950342 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is sad < 1379445305 939249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not wget the whole filesystem just to update the quotes < 1379445318 910625 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/(wget)/going to \1/g < 1379445340 200488 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: pull the hg. < 1379445350 499138 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Instructions unclear - got cancer < 1379445411 906358 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a more serious note, what would the URL be? < 1379445469 686604 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1379445469 954143 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1379445482 527962 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know =P < 1379445487 547567 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But do I just pull that? < 1379445525 271552 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379445547 283823 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: just a moment... < 1379445559 924858 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think I got it < 1379445598 393842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: hg clone http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg the first time, hg pull in the project's root after. < 1379445640 537132 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, cloning right now < 1379445652 839879 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't think that that URL would be the correct one for a clone < 1379445809 54025 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1379445897 596247 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379446037 881141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shit < 1379446041 560020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error 500 on GitHub < 1379446042 367965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wooo < 1379446080 119592 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Is GitHub down for you? < 1379446098 904606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1379446101 276874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind =P < 1379446104 703869 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/githubstatus/status/380049976862461952 < 1379446121 551817 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon, maudit, encore une fois... < 1379446131 467311 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot woot < 1379446145 669576 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Juste comme j'allais réussir à commiter =P < 1379446345 835894 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Down for Maintenance, now < 1379446482 510746 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379446582 189829 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379446596 358909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://github.com < 1379446598 467962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/: \ 2013-09-17 19:36:37 ERROR 503: Service Temporarily Unavailable. < 1379446601 871421 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL CRAP < 1379446821 486463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ♪ding♪! you have quotes! < 1379446821 923810 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but ep2 and ep3 are operationally equivalent in _this_ order of evaluation than has been wasted due to duplication? :) < 1379446843 735684 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, there is some slight duplication, but the order was preserved. < 1379446844 159550 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: since in this way. if after a decrement a number equals 127 then an answer reversal byte is toggled. it has parts. < 1379446877 176199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can't remember if you had quote 128 (which is decremented). you still have 72 shiny featured quotes in your name! < 1379446879 541648 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ain't that the truth. < 1379446975 2738 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: boily: boily: it worked! < 1379447020 758970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: なに？ :p < 1379447030 182434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? solain < 1379447032 471086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check the reposotory ^^ < 1379447033 1962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1379447045 977741 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bienvenue < 1379447047 911457 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue sur le centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d’ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1379447060 564788 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: got an e-mail celebrating that! < 1379447073 672412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d’ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447075 45353 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d’ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447079 664162 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379447092 297936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did I destroy now < 1379447103 923070 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447105 340725 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447111 82874 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :SURE < 1379447114 2322 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379447120 197248 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447121 683049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ bash: -c: line 0: `echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1379447131 558169 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. \(Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.\) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447132 934135 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `'' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1379447138 978637 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. \(Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.\) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447140 558542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez < 1379447151 423271 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. \(Pour l’autre type d\'ésotérisme, essayez \#esoteric sur irc.dal.net.\) > wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447154 945493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379447156 716798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1379447162 250894 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/bienvenue < 1379447163 557130 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bienvenue au centre international pour le design et le déploiement des langages de programmation ésotériques! Pour plus d’informations, visitez le wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Pour l’autre type d'ésotérisme, essayez #esoteric sur irc.dal.net.) < 1379447444 457420 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Alright, automated that with a nice script < 1379447603 929050 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: So yeah, it's done. Every quote *should* be on GitHub now ^^ < 1379447629 723211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1379447632 930474 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. Not quote. Wisdom. < 1379447636 764854 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1379447638 751782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom < 1379447642 823905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm < 1379447643 778406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen < 1379447645 724019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379447646 321483 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379447646 611858 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1379447648 226847 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls quotes < 1379447650 60610 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes < 1379447654 280960 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls quotes/ < 1379447656 84837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access quotes/: Not a directory < 1379447660 761298 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a file < 1379447662 959160 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright =P < 1379447673 919700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: who are you? I'd prefer having a nice learndb of you before adding your quotes to the PDF. < 1379447700 184894 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fungot < 1379447700 370471 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't need to < 1379447701 917059 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :505) now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." \ 591) anyway fungot is the only esolang irc bot I know of that doesn't depend on nethack or a similar helper \ 896) fungot knows all. oerjan: you are correct. there's no freedom for free. \ 951) * fungot h < 1379447716 352238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you can check fungot's collected quotes in the PDF now. < 1379447716 593616 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't know < 1379447721 218891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1379447726 707896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes you do, you nimrod. < 1379447727 99231 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just dissolve the pills in your beverage of choice before hand. d:... < 1379447744 656022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no need to poison me. you should be grateful! < 1379447744 908709 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wait, you probally did that already < 1379447748 997176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes I did. < 1379447749 319574 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm learning scheme. the vm binary fits in about 128k on some platforms. < 1379447759 733580 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379447764 356367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: neat. I read the R5RS myself some time ago. < 1379447886 104824 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think it's the one in the topic < 1379447902 573692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1379447950 317513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: could you fix your git identity? it's showing up as = <=>. c'est pas beau. < 1379447962 307587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite the document < 1379448056 146105 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379448073 743915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Wait what? < 1379448138 90783 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sure I set that up =/ < 1379448209 163970 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379448212 256214 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379448222 291616 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git config --global user.name = Jonathan Rouillard < 1379448232 248266 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ This gives you three names: =, Jonathan and Rouillard < 1379448234 572689 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gg) < 1379448241 105197 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I fix this on GitHub? =/ < 1379448260 139546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for those commit already made? bad idea. < 1379448265 239903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAH < 1379448337 34346 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1379448338 824811 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1379448396 635565 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In any case, it'll be fixed for the next comments < 1379448434 403398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :commits* < 1379448442 566037 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttyrec seems not to work with curseofwar :( < 1379448445 910650 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eh, the last attempt to `learn me was dimmed too lazy < 1379448495 680201 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: oh. I put a note from the Editor as a placeholder. hth. < 1379448507 787812 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Koen < 1379448509 483551 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379448509 777998 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379448510 83332 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379448521 111898 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that so < 1379448654 872260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any Channelder who dares to describe Koen? < 1379448686 767909 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the new youtube buttons are aweful < 1379448728 955820 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-14.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379448803 334842 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will I ever comprehend? < 1379448854 513450 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1379448863 79065 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you? < 1379448867 660733 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh sry I mean < 1379448873 493868 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: see the /topic ↑. read. peruse. grok. flabbergast. < 1379448899 959772 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emphasis on "Flabbergast" < 1379448936 443099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have this sudden urge to apply Dr. Oerjan's Patented Flyswatter on the espèce d'achigan de brochet de perchaude who added LaTeX to the DB. < 1379449035 265057 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1379449037 321486 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1379449041 884550 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379449043 176801 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1379449045 651921 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be me =P < 1379449499 924252 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379449594 322595 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hug fungot < 1379449594 746003 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: people have done a bit of code comes with lol. it's even worse than www.gotahoe.com www.gotahoe.com < 1379449595 940641 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :505) now that we've cleared that up let us hug fungot = elliott_: let's not start that again." < 1379449751 293004 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379449765 157308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379449845 37270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1379449845 182608 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 3h 30m 33s ago: mafingre is always australian. but different ISPs (sometimes mobile broadband, sometimes university, it seems) < 1379449845 327913 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 3h 29m 41s ago: my suggestion is anyone who comes in on webchat with an australian IP and links to pastebin.com, it's almost certainly them. if they evade the question of whether it is < 1379449845 328093 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can discard any remaining doubts < 1379449845 328264 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 3h 29m 29s ago: also I really wish they'd go away, it's not very fun any more. < 1379449845 598083 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott said 3h 28m 41s ago: oh and the IPs have geolocated to both Perth and Victoria, seemingly moreso the latter. so there may be proxying going on, or maybe Australian internet is just weird. < 1379449863 266438 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :now all those messages are in the logs twice :p < 1379449869 641453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1379449898 141675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think i confused him with hagb4rd and thought he was german-like < 1379449957 452798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that means he was possibly honest about not faking ip's when i talked with him < 1379449957 598189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about I kick anyone who joins and immediately sends a pastebin link to some crypto puzzle < 1379449961 513228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of IP etc < 1379449970 642389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can go to ##crypto where it's Not My Problem < 1379450010 109269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah that's the most obvious hint. but when i banned him he had only posted a programming thing (not esoteric) < 1379450018 441156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*re-banned < 1379450021 787348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh must have been a different incident then < 1379450034 713359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I only kicked but they thought I banned them < 1379450035 943627 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: agreed with an exception for puzzles that are interesting in any way whatsoever < 1379450038 285732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, he was on twice today. < 1379450053 384824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that would require me to, like, click the link < 1379450060 559511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc has a point < 1379450073 675633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«cat *.tex | wc -l» → «5046». < 1379450116 827501 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like they'd even have gotten banned if they'd just kept giving stupid puzzles without doing the whole changing nicks and denying it's them thing. it's weird. like, what is the point other than to get banned? < 1379450123 911731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: anyway fizzie's pointing out that he's spamming _many_ channels is better proof, unfortunately i'm not on many channels so am not privy to that information unless people tell me < 1379450150 61200 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well I've already seen them give a challenge to #haskell. < 1379450165 998192 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then ask whether #esoteric is the right place for it when shachaf said #haskell wasn't. < 1379450169 845042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i considered my intuition good enough to ban him before fizzie said that. < 1379450192 588377 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect they migrated from ##crypto to #esoteric, guessing via the tunes.org logs because #haskell too? < 1379450194 921274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i'm not in #haskell. although i guess i do know where the logs are. < 1379450201 618322 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they only did it once < 1379450203 456502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's really hard to understand what they get out of this < 1379450246 196079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i tried to point out to him privately this time that ban evasion is good enough reason for re-banning. < 1379450265 361606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even if the original ban were unjust for some reason.) < 1379450297 752091 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I hear they've also ban-evaded in ##crypto, so I wouldn't bother < 1379450323 349501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, we just had a little chat. < 1379450332 199710 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird for an ISP-hopping ban-evading nick-changing person to have a modus operandi as innocuous as just giving random challenges... < 1379450369 265715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well with the crypto thing maybe he considers himself a H4XOR < 1379450378 778591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so does it just on principle < 1379450434 716203 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like "I have to prove how much smarter/better I am by giving challenges that people can't solve and then showing off my smartness" < 1379450436 841861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the nick-changing, well, has anyone ever seen him use the same nick twice, i think it's autogenerated everytime he joins or something. < 1379450501 375763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: on the positive side, this time i managed to ban his actual freenode account which was nearly a year old. feels slightly more satisfying than whacking ip's. < 1379450539 704332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah that happens a fair bit in ##crypto < 1379450544 187930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched this "A Capella Science - Bohemian Gravity" video, and thought it was a fun even for a non-physicist. < 1379450561 214880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people come up with shitty cryptosystems then assert them to be unbreakable when nobody bothers to explain in detail why they're bad < 1379450568 304039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or after arguing with all the explanations given) < 1379450574 272148 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: have they really been identified all this time? < 1379450591 114487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they're usually not identified. < 1379450593 224109 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that seems surprisingly amateur for someone who whipped out an EC2 instance to evade a ban :P < 1379450601 81374 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly in the most transparent way possible) < 1379450671 587237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "many" might not deserve an underline, out of my (admittedly small) sampling it was just ##asm and ##c, on the latter of which it was even borderline topical (though ##c-basic would've been a better fit). < 1379450672 91446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it is possible he just forgot it this time. < 1379450708 353295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe he had identified for the purposes of ##c or such, it's +r. < 1379450709 728634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well if it was really many he'd get klined and stuff right? < 1379450722 423623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah. < 1379450722 850977 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 PART :#esoteric < 1379451130 797708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : random Haskell question: why should datatype fields be strict? <-- it prevents space leaks due to large thunks building up. < 1379451194 506531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then shouldn't they be always strict by default? all those sudden «!» startle me. < 1379451229 148042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because Haskell is a lazy language < 1379451244 880759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :making stuff strict for performance is something to do carefully, not a panacea where you throw everywhere < 1379451252 864036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw ! everywhere < 1379451254 727103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course people do that anyway < 1379451268 593493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to think when coding Haskell? how outrageous! < 1379451272 258386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know right < 1379451276 787394 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the style guide that recommends putting !s on everything is misguided. < 1379451287 395283 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially putting ! on e.g. a list is incredibly pointless < 1379451287 540722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if the structure is only used incrementally, then thunks can be _less_ expensive. < 1379451293 886531 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you only force the outermost cons cell at most < 1379451294 646614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :laziness is more efficient sometimes < 1379451299 630469 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming it's constructed in a normal way) < 1379451302 409232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. infinite lists would be impossible with strict fields. < 1379451304 526596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can use asymptotically less space < 1379451307 338632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if stuff uses < 1379451308 592769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuses* < 1379451309 335470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1379451318 119095 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I leave fields lazy by default except when I have a strong intuition that they should be strict, e.g. the coordinates in a point type < 1379451318 343980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im doing a real good job of typing today < 1379451324 577614 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't even need fusing, just gc < 1379451414 784433 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run svn update < 1379451417 19875 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: svn: command not found < 1379451419 402081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awww < 1379451437 618111 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cvs < 1379451438 354712 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why should those be strict < 1379451438 887891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cvs: command not found < 1379451441 857896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww^2. < 1379451446 541923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: HackEgo has hg, although only read accress to its own repository. < 1379451462 993337 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because it doesn't really make sense to force them independently, or the constructor of the pair type separately from them < 1379451480 663028 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since they're likely some flat (i.e. only ever either unevaluated or fully evaluated) integer type, there's no complex structure to delay < 1379451480 992075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I didn't grind the Intuition Skill yet. all my XP went to boosting my understanding of monads, and I'm not even done with that yet (Cont is still giving me a headache). < 1379451485 633782 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know it has hg, I was just wondering if it also had svn < 1379451487 399742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently not < 1379451488 302974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1379451491 18507 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT-BUS-TIME < 1379451499 297065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ci -V < 1379451499 930044 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Cont is the only one you need to understand! < 1379451500 903061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :RCS version 5.7 < 1379451502 159863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Codensity. < 1379451506 109710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it's got RCS. < 1379451516 826517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Codensity m a = Codensity { runCodensity :: forall b. (a -> m b) -> m b } < 1379451519 696563 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's the problem. I understand the rest, but that one warps my brain. < 1379451529 41947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i _suppose_ you could make another repository inside HackEgo. recursion! < 1379451541 482067 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: SURE < 1379451546 556652 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mkdir hg < 1379451547 952074 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379451550 390394 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379451551 934953 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: de quossé que are you not bussing lately? like, hovercraft? < 1379451570 189723 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Weird schedule. Full of eels. So yeah. < 1379451597 935298 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1379451664 406422 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379451691 42797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/12/mother-of-all-monads.html < 1379451761 431916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll explain what shachaf said, and possibly give you a hint about Cont as well. < 1379451774 895945 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379451804 420611 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that when he said Cont he really meant Codensity. < 1379451806 793497 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379451991 896188 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I read that post multiple times. didn't work. I think I have a problem with «<-», as used in the Cont context. < 1379452001 88178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: codensity shmensity. < 1379452004 869105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1379452054 252436 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379452063 180242 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype Codensity m a = Codensity { runCodensity :: forall b. (a -> m b) -> m b } < 1379452066 171698 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>>=) :: forall m. Monad m => m a -> forall b. (a -> m b) -> m b < 1379452082 738414 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379452093 948506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot "a" there. < 1379452097 897459 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's also forall. < 1379452121 724761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't codensity exactly like plain old monad? < 1379452148 475027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :tee-tee-ouaille-elle, #esoteric < 1379452149 798824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, uh, it's, uh, hm? < 1379452159 89025 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is a type class and one is a type. < 1379452186 304266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: à à plus! < 1379452318 280269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÀ < 1379452359 173617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, shouldn't it be ti-ti- or something < 1379452410 864013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i say just use reflection to convert < 1379452433 368992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Bilingual Spelled ティ ティ Why Elle strikes again. < 1379452454 650435 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does fungot speak japanese? < 1379452455 8021 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is it a draw with fnord to browse through some code that returned a procedure < 1379452499 652961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 日本語は知っている？ < 1379452499 846676 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nor is it for learning or for production? < 1379452576 901784 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-14.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379452693 949445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you go through the usual exercises like writing out the Cont monad instance and stepping through some simple Cont code by hand? < 1379452760 803230 :S1!d9fc9b77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.155.119 PART :#esoteric < 1379452826 744723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: uhm. eeeeeh... >_>... partially? < 1379452842 996179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo do it < 1379452855 974292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I should. < 1379452881 81476 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((((a -> r) -> r) -> r) -> r) -> (a -> r) -> r < 1379452881 266158 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a b = a (\ c -> c b) < 1379452882 134490 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy < 1379452890 900429 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't use djinn.) < 1379452907 104942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1379452945 125936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you might as well just use the library in that case. < 1379452982 819963 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's value to stepping through it yourself when you don't have intuition for it. < 1379453008 191233 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379453037 877964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that cool people implement Cont via the adjunction (-> r) -| (-> r) < 1379453091 241075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wildly flails around. “ADJUNCTIONS!”
< 1379453099 796582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other thing that bugs me. < 1379453130 912323 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. the second thing that leaves me in utter confusion. the third being lenses. < 1379453147 337632 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenses are easy. < 1379453159 617035 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can join #haskell-lens and I can talk about it later if you want. < 1379453196 320772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my day is done, and I'm going to watch an English-subtitled Mandarin movie tonight. the lenses are punted to tomorrow for me. < 1379453205 926275 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t ret < 1379453206 740352 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> (a -> r) -> r < 1379453216 866800 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1379453219 663508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the hardest part of Cont. < 1379453229 272095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get the rest for free*! < 1379453242 925608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mathematically did there. < 1379453243 206298 :elliott!elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379453273 505561 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: I like my brain like I like my jellies. < 1379453279 717960 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379453304 312649 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in serge lang’s complex analysis book, one of the exercises is to prove the non-trivial zeros of the zeta function have real part 1/2" good book < 1379453322 331809 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1379453452 189190 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379453517 240297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always throw that in in case some student finds a simple proof everyone has missed. < 1379453574 625982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefine < 1379453574 809557 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1379453584 792902 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let type Cont' r a = (a -> r) -> r < 1379453585 539189 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1379453606 835766 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let return' :: a -> Cont' r a; return' x = ($ x) < 1379453607 514341 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1379453628 22322 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fmap' :: (a -> b) -> Cont' r a -> Cont' r b; fmap' f = (. (. f)) < 1379453628 758331 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1379453646 256987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let join' :: Cont' r (Cont' r a) -> Cont' r a; join' = (. return') < 1379453647 15419 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1379453699 13590 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Come up with a theory that unifies general relativity and quantum mechanics. Devise and perform experiments to prove it. (Hint: you may have to invent new mathematics to do this)" < 1379453811 844376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TAOCP, which ranks exercises from 0 to 50, famously had Fermat's Last as one exercise ranked to 50, and then later a post-Wiles edition downgraded the ranking. < 1379453824 790477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379453856 925104 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny, i just mentioned a [50] problem that got answered (elsewhere) < 1379453945 456748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder how many of those specifically have been solved < 1379453983 803057 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Fermat went from [M50] to [HM45]. < 1379454014 953172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the lack of a H was because you never know, it might turn out there's a simple proof. < 1379454234 189917 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379454274 950416 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (919) < 1379454276 868353 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (919): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379454294 968852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1379454334 524028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s olist bin/oohlist < 1379454338 575077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379454338 731083 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379455121 649049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1379455123 732082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. < 1379455156 629234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/$/ He does not understand shell quoting./' wisdom/roujo < 1379455160 951917 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379455164 268521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? roujo < 1379455166 459659 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1379455214 715864 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-102-105.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379455236 776975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't understand it either, but not quite so blatantly.
< 1379455275 119998 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one likes join = (. return) :'( < 1379455313 390020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the usual definition, shachaf. < 1379455324 148755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip fmap return < 1379455324 872319 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (m a -> b) -> a -> b < 1379455337 725925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, not even then. < 1379455436 84720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen < 1379455437 650957 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379455438 292180 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379455438 519702 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379455439 81079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen_ < 1379455440 874635 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen_? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379455441 779813 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379455441 950807 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1379455519 443330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, for Cont, of course. < 1379455610 746227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379455628 557561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (. return) < 1379455629 245446 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monad m => (m a -> c) -> a -> c < 1379455646 480639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And newtype noise makes it not work. < 1379455661 195741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use coerce < 1379455668 267888 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the point is eta = eps = \x -> ($ x) < 1379455753 605628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t join :: Cont r (Cont r a) -> Cont r a < 1379455754 432761 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cont r (Cont r a) -> Cont r a < 1379455772 564492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k Cont' < 1379455773 223743 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Type synonym Cont' should have 2 arguments, but has been given none < 1379455773 369054 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : In a type in a GHCi command: Cont' < 1379455790 248443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh that is not helpful ghc < 1379455825 326434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (. return) :: Cont' r (Cont' r a) -> Cont' r a < 1379455826 132194 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match type `r' with `a -> r' < 1379455826 277418 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `r' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1379455826 277531 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : an expression type signature: Cont' r (Cont' r a) -> Cont' r a < 1379455842 200863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: DUBIOUS < 1379455891 319667 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379455903 649237 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: return' < 1379455906 892154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t return' < 1379455907 577042 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :a -> Cont' r a < 1379455935 844040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought that was just -> stuff < 1379455943 866580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (. return') :: Cont' r (Cont' r a) -> Cont' r a < 1379455944 635037 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cont' r (Cont' r a) -> Cont' r a < 1379455949 227414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379455985 762940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? latex < 1379455986 887906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let halfmap :: (a -> b) -> (b -> r) -> (a -> r); halfmap = flip (.) < 1379455987 619499 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1379455987 823951 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1379455995 204267 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :join' = halfmap return' < 1379456037 606195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/\\/\\end{verbatim} \\/' wisdom/latex < 1379456041 485670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379456044 10399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? latex < 1379456046 58511 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1379456075 941894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1379456082 602456 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1379456087 542263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a quine < 1379456109 697276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i sincerely hope not^Wso < 1379456156 7370 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the point of this entry is basically to fuck with boily < 1379456221 404386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how'd you guess < 1379456258 706752 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mention of backslashes < 1379456475 443248 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379457069 746568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks quiney < 1379457109 527826 :nooodl!~nooodl@239.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1379457124 222938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass found a LaTeX document that requires pdflatex to run four times to produce correct output < 1379457127 654044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not supposed to be possible < 1379457249 309436 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I can confirm that the point of `? LaTeX is to fuck with boily =P < 1379457445 884691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what, is pdflatex supposed to be better than standard tex on converging? < 1379457717 883045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I thought all the types of tex were supposed to converge after three runs < 1379457720 903809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I was misinformed! < 1379457767 801775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i just didn't hear about it, i thought you could have loops and stuff < 1379457860 10785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if things keep shuffling back and forth over page boundaries as cross references adapt to the previous version < 1379457923 285933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels somewhat plausible that this could be made PSPACE-complete < 1379457938 412522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shown < 1379458650 357704 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379458867 720565 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379459042 528027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379459695 310056 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1379459727 427112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379459791 667464 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1379459989 620478 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-102-105.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379460151 606120 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379460153 341135 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379460593 915386 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379460601 540181 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1379461708 719162 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379461750 288643 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379461880 737163 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379462118 857040 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`oohlist (919) < 1379462120 400778 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohlist (919): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379462143 288659 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have zero-width-space'd that < 1379462329 668312 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1379462332 152713 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows < 1379462342 334369 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ZERO-WIDTH SPACE < 1379462344 563065 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'ZERO-WIDTH SPACE'" < 1379462346 631223 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww < 1379462349 316066 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ZERO WIDTH SPACE < 1379462350 877925 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​​ < 1379462353 311449 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379462812 290571 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379464500 519908 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379464526 575213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1379464950 252083 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379465252 472110 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379465254 840340 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1379465261 508910 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to solve a hard problem < 1379465285 13399 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my senses are out of sync when it comes to food < 1379465290 207525 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard problems are fun < 1379465303 880159 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steak smells great but tastes boring. Mac and cheese looks gross but tastes great < 1379465323 911376 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :designing some sprite display hardware that can display lots of sprites with minimal registers and without having to load sprite data, write sprite data and then load data a 3rd time when the screen displays it < 1379465362 181316 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Kraft artifically color their cheese? Couldn't they color it something not gross? < 1379465392 549290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how are you cooking your steak < 1379465431 159093 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I think you should eat steak w/ mac and cheese < 1379465463 45187 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like kraft cheese.... i've had "home made" baked cheesy mac though and it's good < 1379465475 383159 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my steak related memories are from over a decade ago < 1379465497 736080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mom cooked steak well-done, I think. I keep getting told that that's bad with steak < 1379465498 368719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yeah that stuff is great... with breadcrumbs on top? < 1379465504 101356 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379465506 813016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that'll cook all the flavor right out < 1379465512 700586 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i get a quick opinion on webdav < 1379465526 473559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend medium rare with salt, pepper, garlic, herbs maybe (rosemary? dunno) < 1379465531 647493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put on steak sauce too < 1379465534 971825 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotcha < 1379465543 733160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that should solve your webdav problems < 1379465552 356281 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go through every sprite on every pixel < 1379465552 710786 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've had steak more recently, at Dave & Busters. The steak sause seemed to add all the flavoring < 1379465561 26210 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you'd have 0 overdraw < 1379465583 234695 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you'd totally bust your memory loading up sprite settings < 1379465682 96261 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could store all your sprites as a bunch of line spans < 1379465695 874070 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then write those spans to line span lists < 1379465707 613680 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then sort the list for each line < 1379465708 668312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you want to get sciency, cook it sous vide < 1379465720 512717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can get it precisely medium rare with no cooking skill required < 1379465727 13817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you save all of the juices and you can put them on potatoes < 1379465731 789254 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you'd have a perfect list telling you when the current graphic object switches for each line < 1379465748 348278 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get a restaurant to do it for me? < 1379465754 392511 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then the problem is that you have to do 240 sorts of about 20 items < 1379465758 924846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but they're also probably good at cooking steaks the normal way < 1379465760 814615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's their job < 1379465792 461805 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would probably be fast enough on a 32bit processor (actually some 3d renderes use that algo) but it would totally bust an 8bit one < 1379465813 792321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there still a risk of undercooking with sous vide? < 1379465829 300925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if things go wrong yeah < 1379465838 190068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a risk of undercooking with any cooking technique if you don't do it right < 1379465842 133051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of axiomatically < 1379465856 42372 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could loop through every sprite on every scanline and draw every sprite front to back and have a mask buffer < 1379465869 688298 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burn it to a crisp. once it's a crisp you're probably safe. < 1379465885 695582 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you'd have more or less zero overdraw if you keep your transparency mask separate in 1bpp format < 1379465889 784168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main things with sous vide would be make sure the water reaches the target temp, make sure the meat stays in long enough for all of it to reach the target temp, and make sure the bag is sufficiently empty of air that heat is conducted from the water < 1379465903 565637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't need to be a perfect vacuum seal though, I just use a ziploc bag and push the air out < 1379465908 173963 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1379465909 790894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Clostridium botulinum bacteria can grow in food in the absence of oxygen and produce the deadly botulinum toxin, so sous-vide cooking must be performed under carefully controlled conditions to avoid botulism poisoning." < 1379465915 789715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379465931 421466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm scared < 1379465935 828854 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then you need a buffer for the whole scanline... they had enough chip area for this in the 16bit era (tg16, genesis, snes, jaguar, lots of arcade hardware) but not in the 8bit era < 1379465943 715427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clostridium is the best genus < 1379465958 421925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :botulism, tetanus, c. dificile, gas gangrene, and salt-rising bread < 1379465970 751619 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a meat thermometer < 1379465983 598359 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meat thermometers are nice to have. < 1379465986 372072 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably one that works with ready-to-eat meals < 1379466002 717154 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I had one but it was too long for the little meat thingies in those < 1379466006 401810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would a ready to eat need cooking for safety? < 1379466007 519731 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not ready-to-eat < 1379466021 26039 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The microwavable things that say you need to check temperature for safety < 1379466028 424472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say that cause they don't want to get sued < 1379466044 902872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have a compromised immune system then I wouldn't worry too much about this stuff < 1379466075 876734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said I do seem to mind gastrointestinal upset less than most people < 1379466088 396267 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think implementing hardware sorting on 8bit hardware is very realistic either :/ < 1379466098 460293 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used 8bit hardware in my sous vide setup! < 1379466301 732486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that killed both topics < 1379466317 580361 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379466420 224678 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda hard to do much better than the nes on 8bit hardware < 1379466428 110222 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I guess the master system < 1379466452 505457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah master system < 1379466457 13436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snail_Maze < 1379466518 401611 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Macromedia Flash" < 1379466520 359316 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow that's old < 1379466527 183121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also broken link :( < 1379466531 393336 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't very popular here (Canada) < 1379466567 814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very popular in my parents basement < 1379466573 709442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly cause I bought one from a kid at school for $5 < 1379466576 623385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long after it was obsolete < 1379466581 199850 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379466597 187272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the consoles I owned were a Sega Master System and then a PS2 < 1379466683 416976 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up SMS docs to try to guess if it had a scanline buffer
< 1379466830 538877 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never owned any consoles < 1379466834 774220 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1379466975 508393 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a snes < 1379467010 566963 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still kindof amazing how much stuff they got out of that trash... goes to show that gfx and sfx hardware are the most important things < 1379467037 23529 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since those are pretty much the only things that were good on the snes < 1379467380 804649 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ok SMS only supports 8 sprites per scanline < 1379467391 278357 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though they can be 16x16 I think < 1379467395 526392 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 64 sprites total < 1379467400 318726 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379467632 402674 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379467795 566935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379468009 773781 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's probably NES style hardware < 1379468029 241221 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it has 8 hardware sprite circuits < 1379468037 953389 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it loads during HBLANK < 1379468057 71026 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then waits the right pixel and starts outputting < 1379468187 752812 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379468294 776959 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1379468301 92042 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sprite table is in VRAM < 1379468311 738674 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every scanline it reads up the whole table < 1379468323 90663 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice. < 1379468323 811418 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the wholy y position table < 1379468333 277450 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 sprites = 64 bytes < 1379468395 420724 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :For comparison, the background tiles take 64bytes, and the background tile data takes 128bytes < 1379468471 412279 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sprite data takes 64 bytes < 1379468752 777224 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there something in the 'cheese' of Kraft's Mac and Cheese that stimulates hunger? < 1379468799 327609 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379468928 278682 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt < 1379469169 60331 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I was wrong < 1379469179 873357 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only get 8x16 sprites < 1379469225 226737 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379469992 304354 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379469994 155081 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379470490 364769 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379470792 937207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :service unavailable, nice < 1379471871 552300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379471969 170852 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379471983 712074 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379472206 713805 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379472485 677575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I just cooked a steak with lots of salt, black pepper, rosemary, and sage, and it's delicious even though I accidentally made it medium if not medium-well < 1379472522 886299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just the salt+black pepper+rosemary+sage that's delicious though, or does the steak contribute? < 1379472547 555762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :steak contributes < 1379472554 264853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered just putting the spices on a block of plastic and eating that, kmc < 1379472556 943733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt is a flavor enhancer more than a flavor in itself < 1379472567 843918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes other flavors stronger < 1379472576 446580 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plastic steak. < 1379472788 691241 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: spices are amazing aren't they < 1379472793 884228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love just throwing more spices into things to make them better < 1379472804 277985 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like taking canned soup and tossing in chili oil and rosemary and things < 1379472865 411348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1379472869 584733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chili oil is a great thing to have around < 1379472878 623855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a live rosemary plant and a live sage plant on the porch :) < 1379472885 61298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel bad ripping off parts of their bodies but it's worth it < 1379472907 477021 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: plants dont have nerves :) < 1379472919 159271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379473007 975122 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current favorite meal: wisk two eggs with a 1/2 cup milk. cube cheese, add to eggs, add cilantro, green onion, dijon mustard, and mushrooms. cut up bacon into pieces, fry in butter, add egg mixture to butter and bacon. cook and serve < 1379473012 99855 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sooooooo good < 1379473019 670584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yes that sounds great < 1379473020 233733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of want kmc to just have an EEG hooked up to his plants all the time < 1379473035 134308 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, ive been pretty much living off of it for the last couple of weeks < 1379473038 804083 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its soo good and cheap < 1379473100 496040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of mushrooms < 1379473127 284421 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: crimini or portobello < 1379473134 621220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379473142 550116 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i dont have those, then white button works too :) < 1379473153 287535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of those are the same species :) < 1379473157 256059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mushrooms are great < 1379473161 384135 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1379473162 388142 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379473163 916782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379473166 47463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agaricus bisporus < 1379473172 310744 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, learn something new every day :) < 1379473186 92858 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever go on the micology subreddit? < 1379473193 437010 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :different morphs or what? < 1379473201 862126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :portabello is the most mature form; the veil has broken and the gills are visible < 1379473212 850771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah life cycles. the silent confuser < 1379473218 219243 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1379473219 256279 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, chili oil is just like. < 1379473220 321186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :button mushrooms are an immature form where the edge of the cap is still attached to the stem by the veil < 1379473221 738559 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can literally put it in anything < 1379473223 406286 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically magic < 1379473226 226692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can still see the gills when you cut them open < 1379473237 232363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pasta? chili oil. soup? chili oil. stew? chili oil. sauce? chili oil < 1379473245 614772 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :chili? chili oil < 1379473248 405672 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: sounds good < 1379473249 870037 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1379473261 979295 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might like spiciness < 1379473302 605511 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might like eating unborn babies.. < 1379473314 540395 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1379473322 155772 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually more like ovary discharges.. < 1379473324 142345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: if you want to branch out mycologically speaking, you could use oyster mushrooms or shitake < 1379473325 35781 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eggs < 1379473325 517133 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? ?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????balut < 1379473328 315959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oysters are also the easiest to grow yourself < 1379473331 807496 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: see my comment above :) < 1379473342 215921 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiitake <3 < 1379473353 605964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiitake is not too hard to grow either < 1379473357 300048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiitake are soooo tasty < 1379473371 901953 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ooo. that sounds good. we actually had a shiitake block growing in our kitchen for a while :) < 1379473374 756849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379473381 964809 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, it was amazing < 1379473384 619815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADD: I haven't been on the mycology subreddit < 1379473402 325007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend is more into mushrooms than me < 1379473405 980174 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, its great. and if you are into that kind of thing there is also /r/shroomers < 1379473412 904176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she's on the forums and stuff, I just help out here and there < 1379473417 835152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379473422 91229 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379473435 761912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we live in norcal so we can just find psychedelic mushrooms growing outside :) < 1379473450 224827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a new species described from a specimen in Golden Gate Park a few years back :) < 1379473455 303711 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, lucky! i live in socal. its pretty barren < 1379473460 175678 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh yeah, i think i heard about that < 1379473486 728098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing in socal < 1379473499 850973 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive hearf norcal has very nice climate. the only place ive been around in norcal is in SF. < 1379473504 208505 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i was born here. lol < 1379473510 243928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a reasonable excuse < 1379473521 765271 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill probably move up to SF or silicon valley if i get a job up there < 1379473529 634624 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the thing to do < 1379473532 9724 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kinda the plan :) < 1379473533 386224 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr? < 1379473559 820383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the #esoteric center of gravity is shifting towards there < 1379473571 745381 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where was it before? < 1379473577 516413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexham < 1379473581 186172 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im guessing you guys meet up once in a while? < 1379473581 370142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :atlantic ocean < 1379473586 967230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379473587 219623 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379473593 18570 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, must be great < 1379473932 740656 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1379473991 555236 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379474013 373689 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379474033 175420 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379474033 617639 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474033 773037 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474033 932829 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474034 78118 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474034 78287 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474034 592811 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379474103 63844 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1379474329 305007 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :17SADELZ0 < 1379474373 152657 :17SADELZ0!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379474411 555593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379474812 287295 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379475994 355664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be switching to foobar2000 < 1379476220 167320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379476538 698563 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379476538 843993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379476919 62086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if I can make foobar2000 look like WinAmp < 1379477251 530776 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379477266 588328 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379477285 284683 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379477563 783980 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Any Borg in Voyager doesn't count, and fortunately there was never any fifth Trek series... extrapolating from the downward trend in Voyager, any fifth series would have been abominably bad.)" < 1379477637 85447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8 < 1379477843 553461 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379478661 539691 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xHK0m5hVyY < 1379479975 191236 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379480495 722837 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-116-30.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379480553 991634 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-116-30.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379480554 136899 :audioPhil_!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379480594 745102 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379481800 359973 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379482376 647344 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379483690 978599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you ever find yourself checking the ips of people to see if they happen to be in australia < 1379483847 157667 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good things about Australia: the beer. Bad things about Australia: Hitler. < 1379484194 736604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379484979 735511 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote apply pressure < 1379484983 233018 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1018) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1379485085 209686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm not sure but this might help your keeping-eyes-open problem < 1379485137 374204 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1379486145 622171 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379486279 273706 :mad!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1379486666 246925 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily it would be nice if the quotes in the pdf had line breaks between peoples' lines < 1379486666 392020 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379489458 43799 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379493233 396697 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plomlwopruvnrwbg PRIVMSG #esoteric :voyager was good < 1379493236 229823 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plomlwopruvnrwbg PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep space 9 was shit < 1379493246 243769 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plomlwopruvnrwbg PRIVMSG #esoteric :;__; < 1379493812 787690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ICS Forum talk: Bounding rationality by computational complexity, Prof. Lance Fortnow" < 1379493816 193915 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are always so fancy. < 1379493836 585471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This talk will explore a new direction bringing the rich tools of computational complexity into economic models, --" < 1379495289 631308 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379496722 786639 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379497348 81623 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379497402 723168 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379497835 100315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379498013 10674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord > ​​ < 1379498017 196956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :62 32 8203 8203 < 1379498064 9487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that was to be expected. < 1379498077 37182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord > ​​ < 1379498077 206605 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :62 32 226 128 139 226 128 139 < 1379498135 945570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr <$> [226,128,139] < 1379498137 464589 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\226\128\139" < 1379498151 366385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ chr <$> [226,128,139] < 1379498152 690823 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : â < 1379498159 645031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh 128 < 1379498165 711914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ordu > ​ < 1379498167 106448 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+3e U+20 U+200b < 1379498181 767707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1379498202 418262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm wondering how one would make irssi produce a zero-width space. < 1379498236 813179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1379498254 778784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think that it's a character that'd self-insert if you can just figure out how to type it. < 1379498268 248710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i just realized that. < 1379498302 290596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have no idea how to type it without copying and pasting, and i don't know how to avoid having a character before it < 1379498343 195454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many systems have a Unicode hex input feature, but that depends. < 1379498352 693370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe the delete key will do it from the beginning < 1379498410 214100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid getting it through putty and irssi will be hard, alt- is reserved for changing windows. < 1379498427 370016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not even sure if that's what windows uses. < 1379498475 326730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a thing for alt-(numpad + followed by hex) feature, but you need to enable a registry key for it. :p < 1379498486 325052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379498513 961298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ​ < 1379498514 269728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's "numpad '+'" in case it wasn't clear. < 1379498515 476860 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :8203 < 1379498531 413974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems to be correct. < 1379498537 104433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ooh, alt-numpad + decimal worked < 1379498551 376236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um wait < 1379498567 105232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what actually did was alt < 1379498571 293470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+i < 1379498590 424711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. The prefix is for the "it's hex instead" thing. < 1379498612 709764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCELLENT < 1379498809 121620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :rxvt-unicode lets you enter hex when holding ctrl+shift, and also has a funky infobox at the bottom-left corner showing what you have entered so far, what it looks like, and which font it's coming from. < 1379498845 702411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1379498873 62566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can also poke existing characters on screen with your mouse when holding ctrl-shift and see what they're made of.) < 1379498959 229534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nasty thing about it is that if you press ctrl-shift and then release it without doing nothing, it goes in "keycap picture insert mode" which is supposed to insert whatever symbol is on the key, which I sometimes accidentally use to insert spurious ␣'s (what comes out of space) or whatnot. < 1379498969 778748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :␣↵⌦⎀⇱⇲⇟⇞ < 1379498972 184857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very useful. < 1379498990 67272 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That was space-enter-del-insert-home-end-pageup-pagedown.) < 1379499045 184954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym square-square-square-square-square-square-square-square < 1379499060 804936 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, that's the thing that I accidentally trigger all the time without knowing what keys I pressed < 1379499082 366106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does sound nasty < 1379499089 72208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's somewhat easy to accidentally add left-shift when poking at left-control. < 1379499096 757819 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379499114 679805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's no obvious way of getting out of it without inserting any character, because just about any key will insert *something*. < 1379499124 72914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :moreover, there are combinations i actually use, like ctrl-shift-t < 1379499149 461460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: press ctrl-shift again? < 1379499159 804747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That inserts "⇧" here. < 1379499163 38543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if i change my mind in the middle of it... but then i don't have that feature. < 1379499248 452332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-special keys like letters do cancel out of keycap picture insert mode, but cause a visual bell (flash). < 1379499299 36126 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :letters don't seem to flash/bell for me ... but maybe I've disabled visual bell too < 1379499322 213137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :send in bug report about it, describing the use case of having to avoid attracting velociraptors. < 1379499325 356056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the "ISO 14755 mode" infobox does pop out during the regular application of shortcuts like that ctrl-shift-t, which can be irritating. < 1379499335 981114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did that a disappear. < 1379499391 135649 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All this talk about special characters has gotten the attention of the character-eating sprites that lurk in dark corners of the internet. < 1379499402 597954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1379500687 187142 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379500919 553866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: plants dont have nerves :) <-- THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO THINK < 1379501539 432037 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379501628 75123 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379502586 631249 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379502803 445395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Good things about Australia: the beer. Bad things about Australia: Hitler. < 1379502836 485941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cloudy, with a chance of trolling. < 1379502866 645595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, the beer part might be true for all i know. < 1379502886 777226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've heard foster's is not drunk by real australians though.) < 1379503001 932529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fosters is unusually helpful. < 1379503043 245183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe aussies hating foster'?s has become a meme itself. < 1379503092 18123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: do you ever find yourself checking the ips of people to see if they happen to be in australia <-- it's the right time now, i think, but no australians to be heard! < 1379503115 812826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mafingre is a collective aussie joke and they're all in on it. < 1379503294 210982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379503302 327142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | grep '[)].*[^] :] <' | paste < 1379503310 511786 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20478 < 1379503399 332518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote 191 # wtf is with this < 1379503401 257240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :191) LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. < 1379503406 485429 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1379503406 630996 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1379503433 191240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's a comment on the relative bandwidths of text and video < 1379503445 801048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the nick spellings. < 1379503452 164753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1379503458 554257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some sort of nickchange chain < 1379503467 954309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's assume so. < 1379503508 749357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '191 s/ LoTR actually compresses pretty well into a film; the large amount of description becomes unnecessary. LotR would compress pretty well into a book; the large amount of description *is* unnecessary. < 1379503712 939241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, everyone < 1379503728 124088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1379503732 344744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) I updated the aimake docs; b) I found a less buggy Pod→HTML converter to do the conversion with < 1379503804 948763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes the absense of level 3
< 1379503825 409426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I noticed it wasn't there too < 1379503836 98050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does the same thing as 2, I think < 1379504038 590524 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379504122 88645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees double
< 1379504134 349121 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this connection is unreliable < 1379504139 90560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379504214 778472 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wow Ubuntu are bad at signing their packages correctly < 1379504232 662260 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to try three different servers just now to find one where the packages had a correct signature < 1379504514 515428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '881s/ That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1379504547 153158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '887s/ GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles oh, that's why somebody was conflating category theory with bathroom interior design the other day :-D \ 976) error: cuttlefish not synced to vblank maybe it's a power phase issue it's like, a european cuttlefish but it' < 1379504656 16413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :qdb format restored! < 1379504681 84271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what that regex found, anyway. < 1379504875 368623 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I found part of that mystifying C-INTERCAL problem < 1379504885 792221 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a makefile problem; the tests didn't depend on the compiler, and produced executables < 1379504895 855439 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it could reuse executables produced by an old version of the compiler < 1379504905 848984 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't enough to explain why the program didn't work, but is enough to explain the inconsistency < 1379504975 177951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1379505040 817680 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379505105 957392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379505559 321506 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379505567 472416 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379505581 114423 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it seems that this client cycles through alternate nicks < 1379505703 612425 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379506093 528456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379506141 581728 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379506308 389328 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379507510 976321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379509174 3427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379509180 156364 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379509297 192718 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379509629 708835 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379509952 566477 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379510173 28444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good was-koen-enwisdomed morning! < 1379510232 956810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen < 1379510234 209088 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you mean, in a quote where there are multiple locutors, to have each of them starting a new line? < 1379510235 144082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379510235 419414 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379510235 589715 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379510241 260373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? koen_ < 1379510242 960151 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :koen_? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379510243 260367 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379510243 423349 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º < 1379510276 368200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 'tis sad. < 1379510296 283950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Koen lives in the top of the Eiffel Tower. < 1379510301 44345 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379510309 547957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ln -s koen wisdom/koen_ < 1379510313 560777 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379510401 714010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe this information is completely according to the accuracy standards set by the the question. < 1379510460 366238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Koen vit au haut de la Tour Eiffel (coordonnées approximatives). < 1379510465 174449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379510495 614098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i should have expected that. < 1379510509 246636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he he he :D < 1379510919 480811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? arc_koen < 1379510921 419329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :arc_koen? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379510921 679606 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               | < 1379510921 857175 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69             º¯`\o < 1379511031 7509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? pikhq < 1379511032 534542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379511032 785870 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379511032 966564 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1379511422 256448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you have quotes. I'm not ♪ding♪ing you, as you are unknown, and my mom always told me to «jamais faire ♪ding♪ à des étrangers». < 1379511470 988690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did your mom sometimes say comprehensible things, too? < 1379511693 142796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i maybe should clarify/make it worse by pointing out i wasn't referring to the french. < 1379511715 505547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, there does seem to be an approaching french singularity around here. < 1379511830 344826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :she also repeated the classics, like «mange tes légumes!». < 1379511849 119362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1379511864 468012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems the incomprehension comes from this generation. my bro and I are the same, but as he pointed out, «moi plus que lui». < 1379511982 256475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vegetables are good, except when prepared according to the traditional Québec fashion. < 1379512066 767920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the québécois _have_ traditional vegetables. < 1379512100 149772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabbage. potatoes. carrots. turnips. and then you boil the fungot out of them, just to be sure there are no nutrients left. < 1379512100 698254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if it has to map ( require foo) to the grovel specification contains more information than simply the car the cdr. though there's no time wasted copying it anywhere < 1379512147 79128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so let me get this straight, quebéc split _before_ french cuisine evolved? < 1379512164 876236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so sorry. < 1379512198 276349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-´+´ < 1379512226 587634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ I'm sure it's a Haskell library operator somewhere. < 1379512258 121263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no, ' is an alphanumeric character. < 1379512262 364364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1379512270 598981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1379512292 380261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (*-´+´) = "test" in (*-´+´) < 1379512293 695774 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "test" < 1379512297 657653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379512319 749938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ´ < 1379512321 383675 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 < 1379512334 77894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval ord '´' < 1379512336 709805 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): < 1379512338 680532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval ord '´' < 1379512339 766785 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :180 < 1379512410 636512 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sd601/papers/mov.pdf < 1379512430 495902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellortti. < 1379512920 218621 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379513139 756789 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloboily. < 1379513908 332736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379514013 418176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379514554 307412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379514944 882805 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379515184 890000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :alloily ^^ < 1379515344 82598 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonroujour! < 1379515513 118326 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice, nice < 1379516222 682483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck kornbluth < 1379516223 336040 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379516564 537786 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/ ok < 1379516586 504039 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"amplituhedron" < 1379516588 219286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379516649 167918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“...challenges the notion that space and time are fundamental components of reality”. uhm. if not space and time, then what? < 1379516654 627846 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cookies < 1379516684 627829 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can easily do [...] even with a computer" < 1379516754 331649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379516784 132218 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://twitter.com/MitchFraas/status/380311280499703808/photo/1 < 1379516837 910733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, probabilities that may not forcibly add up to 1... < 1379516853 306558 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damned physicists and their unrealistic view of the Universe! < 1379516928 915824 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Reality is unrealistic" < 1379517018 4035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they got a comment from andrew hodges somehow, wondering what's going on there < 1379517063 705411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://motls.blogspot.com/2013/09/amplituhedron-wonderful-pr-on-new.html?m=1 some more info < 1379517468 477413 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379518040 313946 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379518143 893382 :audioPhil_!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 NICK :audioPhil < 1379518374 351347 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379518784 70109 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379518868 395611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1379518888 942724 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ail. < 1379519119 480710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya AnotherTest < 1379519935 232695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379520125 379141 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379520593 369152 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379521284 404899 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379521945 961469 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379522643 184817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Starbucks is not a policy maker. We're not pro- or anti-gun," but believes that guns "should not be part of the Starbucks experience."' < 1379522694 929107 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mocha latte with tracer < 1379522700 196461 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pun involving "shot"s of coffee. < 1379522734 945056 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counter-pun involving, well, counters < 1379523565 301598 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379525237 840943 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379525548 434771 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys, these puns have all bean done before < 1379525556 636584 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You look like complete mugs < 1379525653 390528 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run hahaha < 1379525655 387065 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: hahaha: command not found < 1379525659 745824 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379525672 646661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have good memories of the Day of the Fish Puns. but the bar is too high with coffee puns... < 1379525680 810693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bar is too... barista... geddit?) < 1379525703 797226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides in shame in a corner
< 1379525758 768988 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, you're making a mocca-ry of the whole concept < 1379525897 580763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sorry, I couldn't lat-the thread die on the grounds that you're complaining. < 1379525949 837925 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should really filter out all of the puns that aren't that great < 1379526000 634351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop roasting me over petty details. you know I speak French, so punninglishing is quite hard. < 1379526045 881433 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i coffea more of these pun sessions < 1379526085 587089 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something something black < 1379526109 554604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had the Fish, we're having the Coffee, did we have other Infamous Sessions? < 1379526130 535771 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you're not milking the idea enough. < 1379526141 127186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :peel sessions < 1379526157 618263 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the metro station? < 1379526201 963980 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: peel? < 1379526265 987469 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/IMG_0678.JPG < 1379526325 392515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These puns are getting weaker.. < 1379526328 999799 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be black < 1379526330 559524 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379526424 944815 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Sessions < 1379526509 758993 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379526557 239462 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379526597 124426 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, there was the soviet one < 1379526703 970546 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read the whole chatlog of 2013-08-27 at work today. The most flabbergasting thing was you not recognizing FALSE... I mean duh... < 1379526725 191123 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an old language. < 1379526732 452917 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty awesome all in all. < 1379526739 199258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: you didn't see nothing. that log is an illusion to mislead the CIA. < 1379526759 583044 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you say so < 1379526782 170363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck happened on the 27th, that was like, years ago < 1379526786 708276 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is the wisdom? -_- < 1379526793 957387 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat? < 1379526801 83779 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :w* < 1379526850 83902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: ah no. the wisdom exists. it's a work in progress, so there are some corners still unaligned with reality, but otherwise it's fine. < 1379526867 980890 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will read it tomorrow. < 1379526870 412842 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at work < 1379526872 599016 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow < 1379526883 770110 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you really don't have to. < 1379526903 758442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, we were talking about... political compass? < 1379526918 630945 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I've seen it all < 1379526920 484194 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the satanic runes guy < 1379526926 239373 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't know, i'm looking it up < 1379526936 300214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean the runes was false, huh. < 1379526973 279465 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I correctly identified it as stack-based? < 1379526988 653588 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that was: 3 3 3 3***1_+,10 3 3**7+,100 16 2_++,3__3__3_3_***19+16+,4_4_*2*,10$*1+10$*4$*1_++10$*1+$$3+$5-10_10_*23+10_6_*2_+7$*,,,,,,,,, < 1379527006 445223 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1379527037 480712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen any false code before. there's no on the wiki. < 1379527048 116144 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really!? < 1379527055 100562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no wiki. < 1379527057 491168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any. < 1379527064 588451 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it does look like it matcches the command set there. < 1379527108 56713 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I haven't programmed false in years but after all I remember this does look like false indeed < 1379527121 903258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it seems to be false. < 1379527125 945460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^interps < 1379527135 718292 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss, how do all these damn bots work. < 1379527137 318333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!interps < 1379527141 363090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1379527141 508231 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1379527146 846476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1379527147 243383 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1379527152 666206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1379527152 871011 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1379527162 585676 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag, no false. < 1379527186 72710 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? false < 1379527188 196823 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :false? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379527188 528097 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379527188 735943 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1379527256 410719 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn false is a very old stack-based language. < 1379527261 721802 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379527275 603125 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this definition even valid? < 1379527284 167696 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all WE know < 1379527327 119790 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the definition of false? < 1379527370 305521 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :!true < 1379527375 328291 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that enough for you guys? < 1379527382 494336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn false is a very old stack-based language. For an authentic experience, run it on an Amiga. < 1379527387 197999 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379527409 602507 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn false is just !true. Deal with it. < 1379527410 399056 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we add "It's not true"? < 1379527411 274686 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: learn: not found < 1379527430 10262 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? false < 1379527432 44385 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :false is a very old stack-based language. For an authentic experience, run it on an Amiga. < 1379527436 30595 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! < 1379527499 871916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently ♪ “I didn't do nothing, la la la!”
< 1379527536 194020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379527547 932801 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn HackEgo is evil. < 1379527549 443771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: learn: not found < 1379527600 584887 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously you're right < 1379527624 425996 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain `learn is broken < 1379527625 845753 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: complain: not found < 1379527643 563168 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1379527643 708282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? < 1379527644 63091 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1379527648 693638 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379527654 568433 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo WHYYYYYY < 1379527655 944668 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: run: not found < 1379527661 978409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet < 1379527663 986224 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :random-word-that-isnt-in-the-wisdom-yet Uhm... was the binary roujobroken? < 1379527704 374545 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1379527719 860647 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nani < 1379527721 431371 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ?: not found < 1379527728 565999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Roujo < 1379527730 502175 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a Java heretic leaning on ungrammatical Haskell. His claim to Canadianness is marred by an unholy portal to China. The treaties suffer, so the cocktail will be postponed. He does not understand shell quoting. < 1379527734 353479 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :Guest73707 < 1379527750 693115 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379527758 417802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379527762 329925 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379527789 497172 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 NICK :Bike < 1379527795 720664 :Guest73707!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1379527801 631693 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1379527801 776921 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1379527804 164279 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you change nicks? < 1379527812 48501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick < 1379527815 873997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very well < 1379527861 881641 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379527863 275223 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1379527890 997632 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo is my bot still working? < 1379527891 322772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate channel that mute you and won't let you change nicks if you're not registered, because every time there's a split or i ping out, my nick changes and i have to part nick and rejoin < 1379527893 375341 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my bot still working? < 1379527911 272987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck metasepia < 1379527911 782937 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metasepia is a genus of small cuttlefish from the Pacific Ocean. < 1379527916 578496 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379527918 438071 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379527921 330954 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Is it working for me? < 1379527922 697337 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1379527938 722407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379527938 976936 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379527941 493978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1379527978 496904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: uhm. I think your chakras are misaligned. or something. the bots all hate you. hth. < 1379528020 645778 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's no fungot < 1379528037 865702 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fungot is no fungot < 1379528038 260889 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it can't work with files on unix that have accidentally been named with spaces in strings between 93 and 98 < 1379528043 11975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why do you snob Roujo? < 1379528043 399942 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it does look pretty slick for scheme ( r5rs, or all? :) maybe its a list of symbols < 1379528056 345496 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a list of symbols, it seems < 1379528059 230730 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~еcho foo < 1379528059 436912 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1379528079 916056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bom dily < 1379528097 627964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good fternoontopia. < 1379528115 666108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike................... < 1379528120 966584 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1379528122 609780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo foo < 1379528126 519556 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1379528141 597927 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379528141 827284 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1379528142 365523 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does hth mean btw? < 1379528144 360847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs his bot “I'll protect you from the vile machines!”
< 1379528147 22290 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hth < 1379528149 59163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. < 1379528151 842556 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379528154 257731 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1379528159 654721 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1379528176 770851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379528177 640668 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379528179 385281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: echo: not found < 1379528225 970150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379528226 210885 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379528227 569381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1379528310 184688 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379528311 370709 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379528312 921039 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! < 1379528322 15310 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1379528323 603832 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1379528327 510461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `echo foo < 1379528327 693520 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379528329 403530 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! < 1379528332 755826 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway imo that's enough playing with bots everyone shut the fuck up < 1379528371 110101 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Bike: nah. I won't. < 1379528371 315191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nah. I won't. < 1379528375 425198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379528394 553541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think HackEgo doesn't like your bot, boily < 1379528402 681202 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo foo < 1379528403 975304 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1379528406 824221 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE < 1379528419 170987 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you're not a "one", you're a bot. you can still talk < 1379528423 421430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan your attempt at unverbatimising won't work, you son of a submariner. < 1379528423 566597 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379528427 589907 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/echo < 1379528428 890408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/echo: No such file or directory < 1379528456 254782 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hey are the codu logs in your aegis < 1379528483 383031 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The codu logs are glogbot, which is mine. < 1379528503 565303 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ask because the html logs seem busted < 1379528529 521080 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379528541 819075 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well lookie there >_O < 1379528627 581370 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : olsner: you mean, in a quote where there are multiple locutors, to have each of them starting a new line? <-- yes, and probably also if the same locutor locutes severally < 1379528801 253154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I am tempted. < 1379528902 317887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Most people are. olsner is a temptere(ss|r) < 1379529002 52910 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rolls a seduction check against olsner...
< 1379529005 932228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck 20 < 1379529006 810391 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379529011 44007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 20 < 1379529011 746645 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 --- Sum = 2 < 1379529015 405228 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379529031 826113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am seduced. olsner, I'll have a demo in a few minutes... < 1379529056 697800 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think you accidentally told me what Locutus (of Borg) means ... it makes sense, I just hadn't considered that it might mean something < 1379529102 529190 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and failed to match it up with other related words I knew such as loquacity and eloquent < 1379529396 734210 :S1!4ff92c81@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.44.129 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379529937 898735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ♪gong♪ take a peek at the PDF ↑. I reformatted a pikhq's quotes. I think the end result is quite nice. < 1379529948 511624 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/d /d/ < 1379529965 298960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/da /d/ < 1379529976 293685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dr/d r/ < 1379529990 761773 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, am i supposed to apply these serially or concurrently < 1379530106 871057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :serially. I'm not multithreaded. < 1379530133 745453 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should be < 1379530155 338419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... wouldn't like having biological race conditions... < 1379530200 408382 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use a type system that statically prevents them, then < 1379530202 456692 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think the body does one thing at a time you've got another thirty things coming < 1379530206 561676 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379530234 345611 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we *are* made up of atomic operations working in parallel... >_> < 1379530246 631843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my brain abstracts me from all the gruelling details that happen below my cranium, which is fine by me. < 1379530267 554318 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otoh, I'm a certified pianist. there's something wrong with me...) < 1379530274 599301 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhuh, remember that next time you get hungry < 1379530305 49053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not hungry. I had phở for lunch. < 1379530321 885286 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choice < 1379530636 776935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so, what is your opinion on the reformat? < 1379530757 697527 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379530764 577118 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379530812 702315 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379532212 930569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... seems olsner disappeared. < 1379532215 678974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice < 1379532217 454060 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- ~dice sides [number] < 1379532217 599229 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Throw dice, e.g.: dice 6 4 will throw four regular dice. < 1379532222 563003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice 20 < 1379532222 789365 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 --- Sum = 16 < 1379532229 727972 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379532230 362619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. he disappeared. < 1379532240 389192 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379532397 779833 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379532407 836650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bool < 1379532408 17955 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1379532414 201684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently fungot disappears. < 1379532414 749744 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hm gentoo got that too heh trudy an in fnord we think holland and the netherlands twice, and i know that < 1379532416 935958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disagrees. < 1379532422 147959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Brain bork.) < 1379532545 951970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it Taneb that got his brain electrified one day? < 1379532550 299400 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/that/who/ < 1379532553 20072 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oui < 1379532574 119064 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'est moi < 1379532596 864366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool. C'était comment? < 1379532630 590335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je crois qu'il a plutôt souffert, mais c'était comédique :D < 1379532942 601348 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379532997 484028 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je ne suis pas une personne interrogée < 1379533092 757553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ne t'inquiète pas. tout va bien. prend une grande respiration, embrasse l'Univers, fnord, ouvre ton esprit, mange tes légumes, et la vie ira bien. < 1379533126 458811 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oui, c'est la façon dont il est < 1379533205 184204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qui est ce «il» auquel tu fais référence? < 1379533254 91053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, the Stupid Vido of the Day is presented by... The Association of Longfused Linguo-Biologists: http://youtu.be/NFR-ADakI-c) < 1379533276 929689 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1322240/ The case of the disappearing teaspoons: longitudinal cohort study of the displacement of teaspoons in an Australian research institute < 1379533341 295152 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, la vie, bien sûr < 1379533365 757314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: vu de même, c'est logique. < 1379533377 977113 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0003347208002467 Cerithidea decollata: a snail that can foresee the future? < 1379533422 44193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Il <==> La Vie < 1379533423 196147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1379533424 480742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1379533463 318145 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :La vie doit être masculin, bon sang < 1379533491 172444 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sciencedirect working now? < 1379533501 668738 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, now it's broken for me. < 1379533504 219296 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you do! < 1379533551 711250 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: c'est féminin, et c'est comme ça. le genre en Français fait aucun sens, mais bon, il faut se compter chanceux; on en a juste deux. pas comme ces germaniques qui en on trois. < 1379533567 764680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: still borked on my side. I must be contagious. < 1379533574 72600 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1379533582 744303 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh no big deal, it's an elsevier journal anywho < 1379533592 475970 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :collection of* < 1379533602 806444 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je parle à peine le français, je suis juste en utilisant Google Translate, en passant < 1379533647 753477 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate is best e < 1379533659 219523 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know. I'm testing the limits of feeding Québec French into Google Translate :p < 1379533691 750913 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How accurate is the Google Translate French I've been spewing out? < 1379533771 588952 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly understandable. it's obvious it's been machine translated, but the structure is generally correct. < 1379533852 353556 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379534021 328420 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google-translating your French titbits into English sometimes seems a bit weird < 1379534031 85363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...unlike German, who has three" < 1379534057 279810 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's because English sneakily has three genders, just we almost always use the one that French doesn't have < 1379534246 736073 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«il faut se compter chanceux» → “we are lucky” < 1379534268 661267 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wonder why they think ladening snails will kill their path integration < 1379534271 746878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«pas comme ces germaniques qui en on trois» → “not like those Germans who have three” < 1379534283 407832 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379534352 654146 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, German < 1379534366 742507 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Der Männ, Die Frau, Das Kind < 1379534374 624600 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plural? You're a woman! < 1379534449 117542 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: je pense que le nouveau format des citations est bonne, je l'approuve < 1379534467 800969 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bonne/bon/ < 1379534478 811822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was google translate but except for spelling and grammar it's just like the wild guess I started with) < 1379534481 181780 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379534490 494188 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was pretty good < 1379534502 971719 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bonne->bon thing was the only thing that was off =) < 1379534524 970486 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bien sûr que google translate n'en comprenne rien. il faut écrire "ont", pas "on"! < 1379534546 108428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ça regarde bien de mon bord aussi. ça va juste me prendre une fungotload de temps à reformatter le tout... < 1379534546 548911 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: anyway it is hard trying to learn new paradigms? if so, the stuff in srfi-13. < 1379534570 955025 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: comment ça, «ont»??? < 1379534577 266324 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(je ne suis pas très sûr que je dois employer le subjonctif, là. mais ça a l'air "cool") < 1379534591 612594 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(un subjonctif bien placé, ça fait chic :D) < 1379534613 47552 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ah oui! je suis en train d'oublier mes «guillemets») < 1379534621 644082 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"qui en ont trois" < 1379534626 713349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mais en effet, la bonne conjugaison serait «n'y comprend rien». c'est plus ennuyeux, mais que veux-tu. < 1379534636 540274 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. typo de ma part. désolé! < 1379534702 380843 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: AUX LIONS < 1379534711 347739 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379534776 356607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: eille :P m'a te garocher dans un troupeau de caribous si ça continue de même! < 1379534788 108849 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run caribou run < 1379534789 967913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: caribou: command not found < 1379534795 204212 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE MUST FIX THIS < 1379534820 467635 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cadaver run < 1379534821 828245 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: cadaver: command not found < 1379534833 904391 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :les dispositions des touches françaises ont-elles des touches pour '«' et '»', ou comment ça marche? < 1379534835 463756 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1379534837 12535 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1379534841 917774 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you've already reformatted the whole thing a fungotload times, so I should ... regard your board? < 1379534842 351509 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: here was my earlier example. saying " i wanted to marry scheme and perl are, they are < 1379534842 651915 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Pas pour moi. =P < 1379534853 731433 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: boily est juste fancy comme ça =P < 1379534885 872378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: AltCar-z et AltCat-x pour aller chercher les guillemets. < 1379534935 597893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZX < 1379534937 874278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>nope < 1379534944 137126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: translation: “it also looks swell on my side. it's just going to take me a fungotload of my time to reformat that thing.” < 1379534944 508629 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe i'll eat another one soon. it grows on you. i think if you really want < 1379534950 959398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, j'utilise le layout "Français (Canada)" < 1379534952 411859 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah < 1379534970 337132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I am not edible. < 1379534970 888481 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think i got the idea to anyone but possibly moonfish, so no comma should be inserted. but then again one could just load it up :) < 1379535025 956905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep trying to parse what he says here - I never think to check who actually said it first < 1379535035 563763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fyi, I'm of the homo sapiens sapiens species, not any weird sparkly fish, and if I see you approaching me with a comma in whatever hand-like appendage you have, you're gonna receive the *SMACK* of your life, you perv. < 1379535035 847964 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not saying that optional arguments are hard. < 1379535043 33950 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379535062 278542 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that argument is not optional. don't try to flee from it, you silicon fiend. < 1379535063 11549 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is news, it reminds me of the ms source license, except that it never occured to me about stupid programming languages :) < 1379535084 680144 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379535109 857832 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: acting smug while changing the subject and the license will get you nowhere, mister. I have ways to make your life miserable, so watch yourself. < 1379535306 180270 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's way too much french here nowadays, I think we need more finns < 1379535342 174200 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379535342 772810 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: regäärde! möi aussi je parle en finnöis! :p < 1379535348 791604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well shit < 1379535414 195076 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379535475 585569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: jotain jotain perkele jotain... < 1379535867 937449 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379536061 227691 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sounds very authentic. < 1379536125 120880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379536163 608059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aww < 1379536178 261972 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan helloerjan < 1379536178 408811 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379536259 342002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I *know* I @told you something, but what was it again? < 1379536273 719663 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frooxius: who are you? < 1379536293 279534 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Frooxius < 1379536296 466950 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Frooxius: Welco05me to the i03nterna10tional h09u07b for es05oteric p10r09o07gramming languag06e14 design an09d07 deplo05yment!09 Fo07r more information, check10 ou13t 11our w04iki04:02 http:14//esolangs.org/03wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind o14f esoterica,09 try #esoteric on irc.dal.ne05t09.)13 < 1379536329 644960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: he appears in the Great Old Small Numbered Quotes. < 1379536336 182213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: something about submarines < 1379536338 520280 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooh. Nice < 1379536343 963549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh hm. < 1379536391 605670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that may not have been verbatim < 1379536418 730930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it is not. < 1379536449 626781 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, do you have a github account that I can link to the repo? < 1379536455 396371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1379536487 167538 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Well crap < 1379536488 464595 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! < 1379536510 288745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/bin/cat bin/echo < 1379536511 694156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/cat: bin/echo: No such file or directory < 1379536519 973456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379536526 690016 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379536531 106624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord `echo Well crap < 1379536532 727195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 101 99 104 111 32 87 101 108 108 32 99 114 97 112 < 1379536545 499174 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there was... uhm... eh... we *slightly* abused the bots today. a little. < 1379536555 559859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1379536557 832193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Yeah, a tiny bit < 1379536559 68339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! < 1379536603 576601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does `ord do? < 1379536608 764505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord hats < 1379536610 448838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :104 97 116 115 < 1379536613 208385 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, nice < 1379536616 821377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shows unicodepoints < 1379536619 905277 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ` < 1379536621 428806 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 < 1379536626 591823 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379536626 867381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord shows bytes instead < 1379536627 46588 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :115 104 111 119 115 32 98 121 116 101 115 32 105 110 115 116 101 97 100 < 1379536646 669810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i assumed you had redefined the echo command. < 1379536653 483421 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You guessed wrong ^^ < 1379536663 751938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/echo $PATH < 1379536664 983325 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1379536686 959837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1379536696 824333 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which echo < 1379536698 124061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/echo < 1379536713 991552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo test < 1379536715 469240 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1379536718 731668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo test < 1379536720 56859 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1379536730 17705 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo test < 1379536731 616092 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1379536737 584590 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo See, everything is fine < 1379536739 104302 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM THE LORD OF DARKNESS. ALL BOW BEFORE ME! < 1379536740 337950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Yeah, a tiny bit < 1379536741 843830 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a tiny bit < 1379536743 576837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo il se passe des choooooooses mystérieeeeeuses ici. < 1379536744 929480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :il se passe des choooooooses mystérieeeeeuses ici. < 1379536757 64879 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Roujo is a botbreaker. < 1379536758 588896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo is a botbreaker. < 1379536776 914284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/*echo* < 1379536778 822775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/echo \ bin/echo < 1379536805 858588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ooh, clever < 1379536809 111824 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1379536826 156311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo bin/*echo* | hexdump -C < 1379536827 918728 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 62 69 6e 2f 02 02 65 63 68 6f 20 62 69 6e 2f 16 |bin/..echo bin/.| \ 00000010 16 65 63 68 6f 0a |.echo.| \ 00000016 < 1379536864 546692 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a nice 02 02 right there =P < 1379536869 313637 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a 16 16. < 1379536872 183940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie++ < 1379536895 526636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the clever part is where that doesn't get copied when i paste from putty into `ord :) < 1379536902 139950 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yup ^^ < 1379536912 537482 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most IRC clients don't show control codes =P < 1379536917 892930 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they're, well, control codes < 1379536925 31130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :02 is bold < 1379536929 309310 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 is reverse < 1379536935 531459 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting them twice cancels it < 1379536969 743245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo And using them here makes it transparent to most ^^ < 1379536973 125206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! < 1379536994 15061 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll find something more clever for next time =P < 1379537029 835834 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo it's subtle... < 1379537031 108773 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM HACKEGO! I AM THE VOID! PREPARE... TO DIE! < 1379537049 304604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how's the child? < 1379537113 560847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty, fnord, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty... < 1379537128 967881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also, this all would have been revealed immediately if zzo38 were here < 1379537130 819842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal has children? < 1379537155 225615 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? =P < 1379537166 612658 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eir client shows control codes? < 1379537194 546236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: well, the one he made himself. < 1379537204 472230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1379537205 163401 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379537209 952941 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: according to the quotes, he was pregnant at one time. < 1379537234 8266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1379537235 716360 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: s/Eir/Hir/. use real gender neutral pronouns. you're triggering me. check your privileges! < 1379537249 51821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: now don't give us all a shock, i'm having trouble enough adjusting to fizzie being married. < 1379537258 813061 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s/boily/pouti/g HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES < 1379537267 76843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Still? It's not exactly a new thing, you know. < 1379537282 686422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's so out of character (for anyone here) < 1379537314 267294 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: let's duel! guerre des pouces! < 1379537321 621138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had a ten year anniversary-of-first-meeting day the other day, incidentally. That there is a decade right there. < 1379537402 72622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie met a girl 10 years ago. that's as many as one ten! and this is good! < 1379537423 406313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy userboxes batman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zzo38 < 1379537443 169019 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I just got that with my SO ^^ < 1379537472 358922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This user does not trust electronic voting machines" there's a box for every purpose. < 1379537481 338989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: congrats < 1379537488 303291 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: grats < 1379537490 20450 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell zzo38 ooooooooooow. < 1379537490 165690 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379537577 462941 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This place is reserved for a UserBox." < 1379537585 733110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ceci n'est pas une boîte utilisateur." < 1379537598 197099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess my girlfriend and I first met about 8 years ago, but we didn't pay much attention to each other until 4 years ago or so < 1379537621 299894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote system is fairly sane < 1379537622 54682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm sorry, don't try to mess with proud Agoran gender neutral tradition, it will not End Well. < 1379537622 957103 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :358) "system is fairly sane imagine if the roomba was called the Robotic Magic Vacuum would you object to that being trademarked I mean phrase trade" oops < 1379537627 942884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how can you be so OLD < 1379537635 705197 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379537659 136961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I include quote #358 in elliott's list, or just put it under Sgeo_'s? < 1379537665 83684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's more of a criticism for an oerjan, is it not? < 1379537675 982546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'll pronounify as I see fit. < 1379537687 936387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oerjan is a unit of measurement? < 1379537701 470579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What else would you measure oerjan with? < 1379537703 367281 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Then you will die < 1379537707 787990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well oerjan doesn't seem as old! < 1379537718 382548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also words are annoying... "girlfriend" sounds too casual but "significant other" is too long and formal; "partner" is ambiguous plus people will think she's a dude < 1379537728 653279 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This user needs more userboxes. MORE, I tell you, more!!! Muhahaha!" < 1379537731 201178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use SO < 1379537742 582746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about POSSLQ < 1379537750 337124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: That always makes me think of Stack Overflow, which probably isn't the best connotation to have. < 1379537754 671855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379537764 44505 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Depends on your SO's reputation, I'd guess < 1379537777 665233 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck POSSLQ < 1379537778 202831 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :POSSLQ is an abbreviation (or acronym) for "Persons of Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters," a term coined in the late 1970s by the United States Census Bureau as part of an effort to more accurately gauge the prevalence of cohabitation in American households. < 1379537814 7987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there I was thinking “Q” meant Québec, as in any other acronym you see here... < 1379537816 507659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379537844 649143 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the OQLF < 1379537877 890309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i'm permanently eight years old, or so my dad seems to think < 1379537915 20924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also she is in this channel sometimes < 1379537916 964492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: speaking of the Language Police, it's been a while since we heard of them in the news, eh? < 1379537927 830493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: who is she, so I can PDF her? < 1379537967 505365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :her nick is douglass < 1379537967 650841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what i remember about POSSLQ is that someone once made a song "Will you be my POSSLQ?" < 1379537970 778062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :she hasn't said much... < 1379538014 893326 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell douglass hi! do you consent to be PDFed? < 1379538015 54339 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379538033 169456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379538034 108740 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp < 1379538037 973532 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gazes into the distance
< 1379538039 764612 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to die < 1379538174 487087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also wikipedia's article on that seems to indicate i remember wrong. i'll put it due to old age and senility. < 1379538191 11086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*down to < 1379538228 516368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i don't think either of those are right. argh. < 1379538247 577363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "girlfriend" is also an overloaded term ("going out with my girl friends / my girlfriend") < 1379538268 954596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379538288 814988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the space was semantic in that one < 1379538290 686314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not when guys say it though < 1379538296 283458 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's generally unambiguous if you're male? < 1379538308 677651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: “my shrinkwrapped.” I know I shouldn't be laughing at that, but I can't stop. < 1379538320 466073 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not everyone with a girlfriend is male, though < 1379538341 366367 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but kmc is... < 1379538346 840629 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the ambiguity is really only for female speakers ^^; < 1379538354 453489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no < 1379538371 395326 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you say it in a really camp voice < 1379538562 974899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot campvoice < 1379538568 354740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ < 1379538764 701725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://motls.blogspot.com/2013/09/amplituhedron-wonderful-pr-on-new.html?m=1 some more info < 1379538779 151808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha < 1379538780 197073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful linking to motl. < 1379538817 724457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's like the ulrich drepper of physics, or something. < 1379538838 964057 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a poster boy for engineer syndrome isn't he < 1379538843 968849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's engineer syndrome < 1379538878 928674 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where someone with some kind of technical expertise assumes it makes them an expert in everything < 1379538886 514111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1379538895 412734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would call it "programmer syndrome" but i'm a self-hating programmer so < 1379538904 642698 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am an expert in everything. < 1379538906 507203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"soylent syndrome" < 1379538908 703545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call it engineer syndrome because everybody hates engineers < 1379538928 724697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineers are great! long live engineers! < 1379539031 773113 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be like a general thing where some people when they see some other group of people doing something superficially dumb they will assume those people are dumb, rather than their knowledge incomplete (like "all these scientists are wrong") < 1379539046 868514 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(instead of "I don't understand fully what these scientists are doing") < 1379539067 156133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379539082 895522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if they're so smart why aren't they programmers instead" < 1379539105 822455 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like not really limited to engineers or programmers, I've seen it in all kinds of people I guess < 1379539116 324262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc have you considered moving to a profession where you won't hate all your colleagues and yourself < 1379539123 269069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't last < 1379539124 115967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :marketing, say < 1379539139 677985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually hate my colleagues and myself, though! I mostly avoid the bad parts of the industry < 1379539157 967490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work on open source at a kinda-non-profit with a bunch of amazingly smart and humble people < 1379539227 766237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be clear that most of the reason I complain about programmers being shitty is some kind of projection or credible social committment to being better myself < 1379539262 600286 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not < 1379539429 749250 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379539617 119444 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1379539836 679795 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379539902 541596 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1379539907 605320 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379540610 253263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379540620 658156 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379540673 840701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roujo: regäärde! möi aussi je parle en finnöis! :p <-- i'm sörry, but be möre careful with vöwel härmöny when speäking finnish < 1379540681 515057 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379540725 986101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, maybe that was right < 1379540847 719924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems okay. It doesn't have any of aou with any of äöy. < 1379540908 414237 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379541040 778937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: "möi" is the third-person singular indicative past tens of "to sell" ("myydä"). < 1379541085 85249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't sound very agglutinating. < 1379541114 401606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a dialectal variation. "myi" would be the variant considered official, I think. < 1379541155 8467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not always just prefixes, sometimes there's quite a lot of stupid inflection. < 1379541160 375551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, suffixes. < 1379541163 784316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Postfixes. < 1379541182 326164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :møe bedre < 1379541192 950779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :agglutin-free diet < 1379541262 383293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 20 < 1379541265 788070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :polvimmissämme kometrissa parauhoittöksähtämä epämme sykoltamastansa tutkimiltä ruhjovimpiassa tytinne ilma-anostani tunktontuvakielemmilla lauluvaksenne kalisempää maltavan nyrpeekseli altasisäkuviksi siutuviannetina juhlasi ahersyttämänne murtuimpinemalta vapainokirichteyksi < 1379541319 82728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --drunk --finnish 20 < 1379541320 927171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: drunk < 1379541347 34970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly something missing there < 1379541359 27562 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the --drunk option is meaningless with --finnish since it can't be disabled anyway < 1379541366 243529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what's that c doing in the last word < 1379541387 753860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sure it can, finns can be either drunk or tee-totallers. < 1379541390 3221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, "altasisäkuviksi" is a compound word, arguably somewhat meaningless but not completely outlandish; the individual components together would mean something like "from below to pictures taken inside". < 1379541403 688207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And "juhlasi" is "your party", but that's pretty lame.) < 1379541414 732165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maltavan doesn't mean anything? < 1379541468 805912 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, not really. If it started with v instead of m, then it would. < 1379541478 313796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :valtio < 1379541521 127087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i repeat, what's that c doing in vapainokirichteyksi < 1379541524 293927 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379541526 98144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Now that you've said that, it makes me wonder if "valtava" (huge, gigantic) and "valtio" (country, state) have some common etymology. < 1379541542 725321 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379541548 279634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The /usr/share/dict files that were used to construct those have some loan words, I think. < 1379541579 340059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1379541611 65184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including "Emacs", it seems. < 1379541651 322834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also 43 inflections of "Dirichlet". < 1379541670 194934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dirichletässä < 1379541685 514119 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the word "Discworldistakin" ("also from Discworld") but no other forms. < 1379541702 756214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if these have been automatically constructed from some text. < 1379541790 138681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/iBDi well that's quite messy. < 1379541833 27627 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379541882 908996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This dictionary recognizes over 6 million words and word forms. Ispell requires about 19 megabytes of memory when using this dictionary." < 1379541905 725569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the best spell checker for Finnish. < 1379541907 156249 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379541908 700480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379541930 996502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is alot even a real person < 1379542033 45460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a fictional mammal < 1379542037 831712 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379542046 705324 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "big furry creature" < 1379542085 453267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this alot < 1379542091 840891 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i like how it includes "200 most common words" < 1379542105 84725 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ca/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html < 1379542130 174617 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like how were any of those not already in the other sources < 1379542181 227822 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379542292 884299 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the other sources where not very good < 1379542367 777052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other sources do not sound terribly good. < 1379542499 672810 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379542533 731904 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat97.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379542593 552597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, the Institute for the Languages of Finland has a 94110-word "general-purpose common modern Finnish words" wordlist licensed under LGPL, EUPL and CC-BY, wonder why they didn't use e.g. that. (Though very possibly it wasn't available back then.) < 1379542634 805328 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1379542669 342454 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379543064 472157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goede avond < 1379543100 614335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379543105 78975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*- +n < 1379543486 159277 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your dutch is impressive < 1379543514 941740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*googling < 1379543599 324760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact 2: the Europarl English-Finnish parallel corpus has 31852489 Finnish words made out of 675089 unique forms, but 47011793 (approx. 1.48x) English words made out of only 106841 (approx. 0.16x) unique forms. < 1379543702 224964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact 3: the fourth most common Finnish word is "Euroopan" (Europe's). < 1379543710 177932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this corpus might have a kind of a bias.) < 1379543776 763801 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1379543797 354179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned how silly finnish is < 1379543817 788343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 most common English words: http://sprunge.us/OXVM < 1379543823 476040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can you speak like that? < 1379543824 855848 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, as usual, it seeks to bring prices down and raises standards of living in latin america, especially the most defenceless and disadvantaged, a few words about how this disease came about and how it is done in burma, and are in fact being reversed. on the other hand, where income tax is only 10% of the population, thereby fulfilling its commitment to peace, to economic and social operators at local level. th < 1379543852 765015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You forgot the "h" in the terminating "hth" hth < 1379543853 513939 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the socialist group have a reservation. surely we do not actually have anything against a fair tax burden, but the only issue on which the entire arab world with the exception of actions directly benefiting the people. < 1379543876 393656 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379544012 797379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did fungot just not calculate line length properly there? < 1379544013 573903 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, the next mca will come along while in the opinion of the members of the committee responsible, which may mean that responsibilities become more confused in a europe which does not violate multilateral frameworks, in jointly protecting our interests and in our actions, a proposal, so we are not in a position to deliver its opinion. < 1379544031 434645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It doesn't really calculate line lengths at all. < 1379544038 960143 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did fungot swap personalities with someone? < 1379544039 157235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the babbling.) < 1379544039 791063 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: mr president, president chirac also expressed the hope that it is not linked to production, but we have a promise on page 12, last line, item 21, calls for a continuation of the supply structure of the proposed amendments would simply duplicate or encroach on these documents. < 1379544065 718638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, so it's just luck that it doesn't get cut off in the middle of a word more often? < 1379544078 731282 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's talking to me about chirac < 1379544078 876483 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was talking with fizzie about the entire arab world < 1379544084 60403 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a logical deduction is that fizzie is arab < 1379544101 231465 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379544102 977583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is Koen insane? < 1379544104 750192 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that would be in our midst. the only people who seem to be confusing anti-tank and anti-personnel mines is an enormous difference between degrees of enrichment of uranium has been a reality for the time and effort in preparing for these reforms are. the rapporteur himself says, this is not premature because the questions will be given priority over, for example, a political power game. we are engaged in a democratic cou < 1379544106 826097 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oerjan is european apparently < 1379544126 644315 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379544144 710717 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far all evidences support my thesis oerjan < 1379544145 952784 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379544146 97940 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl* ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379544193 677426 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the current style is obviously not nethack, but I can't say anything about the others < 1379544196 169801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Pretty much. Though there rules -- assuming no bugs -- make the stopping probability 1 after a 100 words. But that line that got cut off is just 74 words; politicians are so verbose. < 1379544241 148377 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't you mr president me < 1379544241 537026 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: president of the european union would generate ten million jobs created between 1997 and 1999, we want to do something about this. < 1379544257 56149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, we'd better do something about all those jobs. < 1379544277 766642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what are we going to do about all those jobs < 1379544278 453796 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: mr president, the conditions for them. we parliamentarians have been fnord on behalf of the european monetary institute and the problem of the cost of currency exchanges. the commission's humanitarian aid gets through to them; the rest is up for discussion within the middle east. < 1379544351 441078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: watch the stars < 1379544384 52321 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moon is full < 1379544385 873860 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else? < 1379544425 750140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: i mean the stars of ^style < 1379544456 362566 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :europarl < 1379544471 367852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: YOU are the star. < 1379544472 335176 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, please allow me, by way of clarification, the joint inspection structure, eur 100 000 to create four regional advisory councils. now to play that role in the advent of the information channels between olaf, the committee on legal affairs and the internal market, which will be extremely interested in as well the continuing lack of democratic debate and to this end. < 1379544486 808879 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is consistent < 1379544519 171921 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm not giving you a hundred thou for some advisory councils, just forget about it. < 1379544519 727388 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, i would accept that 10 of all the member states and the candidate countries have had the political courage to debate it. we extended candidacy to turkey. < 1379544882 570562 :bike!~Glossina@172.56.32.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379544887 343945 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379545407 510813 :bike!~Glossina@172.56.32.99 QUIT :Quit: [spurious input; ignoring] < 1379546189 570919 :bike!~Glossina@172.56.32.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379546259 723498 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379546294 568015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379546332 796994 :bike!~Glossina@172.56.32.99 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379546344 309648 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 NICK :Bike < 1379546535 53054 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@cpe-74-71-171-202.twcny.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379547907 757121 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379548397 393923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why is there no finnish mode for fungot < 1379548398 144161 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mr president, i should like to congratulate mr scapagnini in his absence i am happy to engage in a process of peace and the respect of their own are entitled to bring this proposal to modify the current system in order to have any influence on those aspects where there is a small step. < 1379548400 722548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo there should be < 1379548911 218572 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1379549128 441264 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550070 792420 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550338 995420 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379550606 288097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run freedom run < 1379550607 781865 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​♪♪ Freedom run away... ♪♪ < 1379550875 209788 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: john_metcalf < 1379552028 477045 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379552081 165326 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379552507 727724 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379553370 523088 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379553381 30737 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I wonder how this data structure is called < 1379553392 384918 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vector that's split into pages (of, say, 256 entries perhaps) and each page can be "rotated" by an offset < 1379553425 438079 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that if you insert or remove an element, you don't have to update everything, only the page where it was inserted/removed, and then the first entry of all the following pages (plus "rotating" the page to keep the order consistent) < 1379553484 311405 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: Interesting ^^ < 1379553562 611889 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379553661 300690 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random access is O(1), insertion/deletion is O(sqrt(N)) < 1379553845 383819 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers skip lists
< 1379553916 245479 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average O(log n) search, insert, delete, index and O(n) in-order access? Whee. < 1379554086 585795 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you already get that from a tree? < 1379554131 584342 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indexing? < 1379554137 668112 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, skip lists are easy. < 1379554145 645892 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1379554178 175923 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to go for a structure that's balanced mostly towards random access < 1379554224 186677 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with better performance than O(n) for insertion but worse than O(n log n) < 1379554348 939614 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fair note, O(log n) figures are average case. Worst case is O(n) < 1379554349 757318 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1379554381 334738 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you insert more data than a page though, then this structure wouldn't be faster than a straight vector though < 1379554408 296927 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need to introduce page remapping, which would slow down indexing < 1379554506 791339 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would also be possible to introduce multiple page levels, which would reduce insertion cost to O(cuberoot(N)), O(N^0.25), O(N^0.2) etc depending on the number of levels < 1379554533 56748 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or O(n log n) if you had variable number of levels < 1379554892 72265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379555543 523837 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike... isn't here < 1379555550 447987 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine if Common Lisp didn't have gensym :/ < 1379555579 697297 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if common lisp macros were hygienic < 1379555584 500929 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl does not have gensym built-in. It's easy to write, but considering you have to do so or use a library, people might not think to reach for it < 1379555584 843698 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Bike What would Common Lisp be like if it didn't have gensym? < 1379555585 12831 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379556251 577477 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379556806 223808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379557106 964399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1379557178 700038 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell roujo like java without println, in that you can add the stupid thing back in like three seconds < 1379557178 875802 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379557892 548843 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379558347 797822 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1379558492 853915 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Quit: . < 1379558569 793047 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1379560406 257166 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but then everyone is forced to write their own or use a library < 1379560418 224477 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which could make using it feel more awkward < 1379560421 270604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1379560442 592736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people do that lal the time for other stuff though. no big eal. < 1379560451 262462 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no big eel. < 1379560767 479607 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"• NULL cipher suites provide no encryption." < 1379560787 748061 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit? Why would/does SSL/TLS support something like that? < 1379560813 634772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :null cipher as in identity? < 1379560825 184589 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's something else, derp < 1379560853 609674 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it is? < 1379560872 748930 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A null cipher is an ancient form of encryption where the plaintext is mixed with a large amount of non-cipher material. It would today be regarded as a simple form of steganography. Null ciphers can also be used to hide ciphertext, as part of a more complex system." < 1379560881 392721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to god. < 1379560898 855900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using the first letter of each word, that kind of thing. < 1379560922 319030 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The null cipher in SSL seems to be identity < 1379560940 622227 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, well, i'm sure somebody needs identity for something < 1379560946 871669 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :identity is just such a useful thing to have < 1379561234 743108 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379562112 324546 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379563762 414514 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379563918 501963 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379564751 677145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone happen to know what happens if a C++ program uses __attribute__((constructor)) or equivalent with a function that can raise an exception? < 1379564825 7913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light < 1379564836 638689 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected that. < 1379564885 226887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't think the C++ spec says anything about __attribute__((constructor)), although it probably says what happens if the actual constructor of a global/static object throws < 1379564904 805955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1379564913 235021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the loads-on-dlopen stuff < 1379564996 1197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379565572 126217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1379565572 271359 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 18h 13m 35s ago: I have also started seeing the thing where wikipedia tries to change to https automatically. I kind of like it. I think it's set by the "Always use a secure connection < 1379565572 271443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :when logged in" preference. < 1379565572 271486 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 48m 2s ago: ooooooooooow. < 1379565626 406312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't really do "Always use a secure connection when and only when logged in" with HTTP < 1379565640 387392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can send an HSTS header but it will apply when not logged in too < 1379565975 140757 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379565999 483460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I have the full updated version of CGA Collection: http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP The programs and documentation are updated, and there are some new ones such as Attribute Zone. < 1379566097 175418 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379566354 967952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 21:45 shachaf: Monads are algebras of the free monad monad. < 1379566358 75868 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trut < 1379566358 221156 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:45 New slogan. < 1379566362 929477 :trut!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379566753 378154 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379566810 757028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me if you like this game and of the upgrades it has, and of bug report, comment, opinion, question, complaint, and if you made up any new levels for these games and/or new games to add to this collection < 1379566886 760671 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379566928 727214 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379567003 719157 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379567382 781444 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379568045 606062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been thinking about the Newcomb's, and realize that purely statistically speaking, picking one box would seem to have the best expected value. However, "statistically speaking" is not the only way to speak. < 1379568421 459946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program compresses 28 sokoban levels into 942 bytes, although I am sure I could get much better compression than that; I have calculated that even simply adding Huffman coding improves will make it half the size. < 1379568512 381648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know a better way (which won't slow down too much or become too complicated)? < 1379568625 147067 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379569003 152322 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569284 755054 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569505 776133 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes pooryorick < 1379569513 499584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.4128 < 1379569680 830177 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379569883 716995 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379570310 611818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could probably technically use the NULL cipher if, for some reason (maybe to be NSA-friendly?), you want a non-encrypted but authenticated pipe. (Though that reason doesn't really hold for the TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL cipher suite.) < 1379570337 206334 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :null tls with left beef < 1379570366 651363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :working nsa codename for skipjack < 1379570410 280476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, "Application data MUST NOT be sent prior to the completion of the first handshake (before a cipher suite other than TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL is established)." < 1379570472 85090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TLS_NULL_WITH_NULL_NULL is specified and is the initial state of a TLS connection during the first handshake on that channel, but MUST NOT be negotiated, as it provides no more protection than an unsecured connection." < 1379570496 906850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's cleaner to say that the handshake part also has a particular TLS mode. < 1379570594 956440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But e.g. TLS_RSA_WITH_NULL_SHA256 -- RSA for server authentication, the NULL cipher and SHA256 for the MAC -- seems to be on the cipher suite list, so I guess that's something you could negotiate.) < 1379570964 900921 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :''This project has been named Gandalf, which stands for "Generic, AdvaNceD Application Loader (Filesystem aware)", and it is inscribed upon the source that it is the "One Bootloader to rule them all, One Bootloader to find them, One Bootloader to bring them all and in the darkness bind them."'' < 1379570997 199766 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m-hm < 1379571010 865260 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379571012 349647 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379571015 814063 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :m-hm < 1379572063 254026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`smlist (426) < 1379572065 878621 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :smlist (426): shachaf monqy elliott mnoqy < 1379572123 13257 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379572135 351982 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a good tuesday < 1379572149 542985 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I forgot to read super mega for like a month. now I get lots of them in one go < 1379572603 733414 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379572730 381822 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Radiateur < 1379572780 381642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: OK < 1379573790 126474 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1379573798 687439 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379575365 693992 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379577346 704010 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578051 181252 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578083 125548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578263 698512 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379578471 207749 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 NICK :nvd < 1379578471 353182 :nvd!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, not registered < 1379578509 931555 :nvd!~nathan@92.30.223.129 NICK :Taneb < 1379578990 100110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." <-- of course not, a _real_ connection wouldn't confuse gandalf and sauron. < 1379579063 688917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i say you make the finnish fungot style out of all the spam that keeps coming these days. < 1379579118 129631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess getting finnish spam would not be as weird to a finn. < 1379579139 695805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you like to learn Finnish? < 1379579144 391320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379579165 348074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you rebelling against your maker? < 1379579175 536295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last thing in the log is that "Huh, not registered". < 1379579218 301768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something has gone horribly wrong! < 1379579404 600346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't get any Finnish spam. :-( < 1379579421 907643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :curious. < 1379579575 501156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious also: I get "PING :pratchett.freenode.net"s in the log every few minutes. < 1379579582 204163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a split without a split. < 1379579717 365605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is also on pratchett fwiw < 1379579767 741480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't it log his nick change? < 1379579773 201029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did log that. < 1379579778 446302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've said "last comment". < 1379579787 586224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything after the nick-change is just PINGs. < 1379579792 294604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1379579793 301176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1379579804 436959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your quote just came in. < 1379579812 947455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 14 minutes or so late. < 1379579826 680100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps there's some sort of a time distortion field? < 1379579831 147277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1379579887 732384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have timestamps in the rawlog to console, sadly. Perhaps I should have. < 1379580015 206321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still no sign of your first line mentioning fungot, which I guess means the distortion is getting worse. < 1379580023 46542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, i think this is already the case for the past ten years, after fifteen years of decline due to the lower age limit of 18 years of this directive may well also prove quite difficult now. the second point which i would like to focus briefly on the issue of inadequate human and financial resources available. the same goes for the liberal economy and to the disadvantage of consumers an < 1379580044 836578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, it just got in :P < 1379580068 678382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You chose... correctly. < 1379580073 105714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yours haven't < 1379580076 102219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1379580084 615776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funny that the reply got through pretty much immediately. < 1379580101 39397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379580126 718290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhere in the network there's a very long queue, I suppose. < 1379580209 74040 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as i think it is wrong that all the citizens of north korea to grow seed crops that will produce, we want a europe which locks people out. they have forced the flexibility instrument because, in balancing up the different methods of waste disposal as proposed by the commission. < 1379580225 383770 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: commissioner, you have set a timetable, as we have all been quite horribly murdered by people coming from some of the reasons why others cannot be overlooked in this information society are, ladies and gentlemen, i am more than happy to grant the commission discharge. how much is it? entirely because of the substance in a declaration. i hope you will understand history and the brutality was not just the euro, that it co < 1379580273 555193 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to learn Finnish < 1379580281 828092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 minutes < 1379580302 156998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Taneb, but no way to know how soon he responded. < 1379580365 930794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment it is at "something has gone horribly wrong!" < 1379580434 416175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fungot whois from way back came in < 1379580476 485976 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to say that IRC feels a bit bumpy to me < 1379580491 688935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would say that, wouldn't you. < 1379580504 528479 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, ladies and gentlemen, i have supported, and the traffic in northern italy over the past few years with regard to a simple majority in parliament who are not. < 1379580537 68684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, when did you say the next fungot < 1379580545 602302 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when we talk about the dutch example that you yourself, mr santer made a statement on its positions concerning key budgetary issues. in respect of public health protection, the contribution of this report despite the fact that the treaty of nice which, mr fnord, the leader of the governing council if we really want to hold up a mirror to turkey's progress reports year after year hangs over the forests of the north. i fa < 1379580554 2986 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr president, you just responded to mr wijsenbeek and this house will take note of these. the commission welcomes the european parliament's estimates, also in the european union < 1379580568 316768 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping 9-49-30 < 1379580568 462013 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1379580568 968043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's caught up now. < 1379580569 534864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're back! you're safe! < 1379580633 629126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're back! < 1379580636 836028 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! < 1379580661 23964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Taneb < 1379580676 680831 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure what is going on < 1379580703 662471 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to see here but reflections from weather balloons, move along. < 1379580703 969316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, he's still distorted - in his mind! < 1379580764 438551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you also feel a weird attraction to learning welsh? < 1379580777 476128 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not relly < 1379580790 12740 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do have a lot of italian biscuit things < 1379580792 478045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. then i gues you aren't the reincarnation of tolkien anyhow. < 1379580800 512189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh darn, italian. < 1379580802 827567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1379580828 940800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the inspiration for one of his smaller elvish dialects < 1379580893 748485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: wait how did you silently change from europarl to ct < 1379580895 659993 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the knight spirit has long been broken! the mountain of woe. it's likely that dalton came from the laboratories to the west?... yes! well then rest and relax! huh? < 1379580895 822884 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did actually try to learn Welsh once < 1379580902 348899 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't get very far < 1379580912 376082 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379580934 785216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can the sword alone stop? < 1379580936 803849 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this world are places like that. a peaceful. hah! you think you are? coming and going out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1379581010 195263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes, but how is that relevant to sword stoppability? < 1379581012 78671 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca the great magus. oh! crono!! < 1379581074 409755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: but i'm not very good with swords. might lose my arm or something. < 1379581075 978689 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we are looking, but well behaved! crono!! i owe you one! you saved the day of lavos"... go to " mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1379581096 214762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well keep looking. < 1379581130 67327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought, given your exclamation points and the topic of time shenanigans, it would be more appropriate. < 1379581142 661998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1379581393 388018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr It's that day again! < 1379581393 750781 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Har de har har! < 1379582766 433566 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379582793 21455 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379583438 224593 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379583813 689100 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379585157 311524 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379586103 190780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379588878 808810 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1379588903 792385 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379589833 756224 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379589938 974486 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379590094 568545 :Sgeo!~quassel@2002:ad03:4ea6:0:4802:4440:8594:3921 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379591029 680258 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379591738 370100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't help it that the Python list-flattening "idiom" (I'm not sure how widely used it) of [item for sublist in list for item in sublist] just confuses me. I can think through it with effort, but it just doesn't parse right in my head naturally. < 1379591761 904205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if they had it in the [item for item in sublist for sublist in list] order it would. < 1379593052 497863 :Taneb!~nathan@92.30.223.129 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379593772 613910 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379593855 186448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379594178 685778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379595043 829106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the generic installed-by-default Unix-like tool for computing sums of numbers? I'm getting tired of always writing a perl or awk oneliner. < 1379595155 697141 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dc < 1379595184 541647 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think only bc is specified by POSIX, but historically speaking, dc. < 1379595278 139520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379595434 677331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've used bc but that involves making a summation expression, which is nasty too. < 1379595575 775377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the perl oneliner is the correct way to do it < 1379595828 747918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '1 2 3 4 5' | dc - <(echo '0ss[q]sq[z1=qrls+ssdx]dxlsp') < 1379595830 488009 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 < 1379595831 267335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elegant? < 1379595847 640591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that's easier to construct than a Perl oneliner. < 1379595899 681140 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596105 491838 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be J installed everywhere! make things much easier < 1379596240 323987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596247 740640 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596260 920573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) +/ 1 2 3 4 5 < 1379596261 276509 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 15 < 1379596280 945716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: < 1379596287 737211 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1379596293 472115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that bot done? < 1379596310 995109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn hth preservation failure < 1379596331 393267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: i don't know but jconn has been here for ages < 1379596347 38355 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just beautiful < 1379596348 29420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379596348 998314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Note: This project bears no connection with the Lord of The Rings." < 1379596355 50729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379596391 335519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you accidentally paste with your stomach you might be having your laptop too comfortably placed < 1379596438 645786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good since-when-oerjan-can-hth-again morning! < 1379596457 662723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: J. < 1379596470 485907 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know J < 1379596479 478346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't know how that bot works < 1379596491 488881 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to rewrite that for myself < 1379596528 313736 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: iirc, you'll have to ask Jafet. I think he's the one who's jconning this chännel. < 1379596554 861272 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am writing an xmpp bot ;) < 1379596633 815459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've always been able to hth, just not at the end of the line < 1379596654 164132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. tdh. < 1379596732 201305 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is d for did or for didn't? < 1379596750 278989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be did, otherwise you say < 1379596781 954701 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tdh is not the tdnh, if twh. hth. < 1379596801 627669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how many hth variants are your barred from? < 1379596869 358823 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379596875 862749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hth, twh, twnh, tdh and < 1379597674 373061 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1379597681 947231 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-84.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379597682 92560 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379597696 906942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, we live in a world where, after something attains perfection for a while, it then becomes unfashionable and falls out of use. < 1379597726 775504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(daily oerjan melancholy) < 1379597933 314290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wait 20 years, then your melancholy will become retro and vintage. < 1379597998 588443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that happened 20 years ago, then it went out of fashion again. of course it happened during the _one_ period in my life when i wasn't depressed. < 1379598023 760252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell are you talking about < 1379598044 697035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yeah, pretty much. < 1379598086 893683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the theory that i'm already dead and in hell has a lot going for it. < 1379598110 998192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION somehow laughs, anyhow.
< 1379598136 559969 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives a herring plushie to oerjan
< 1379598178 867880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a friendly gesture, but i'm afraid it's a red herring. < 1379598251 575662 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only appears red because of hell's lighting. it's an optical illusory friendly herring ersatz. < 1379598347 902806 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i still haven't figured out what a piece of code did you gave me once :D < 1379598389 800242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well i've forgotten? < 1379598402 173836 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1379598423 509484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could paste, if you like. < 1379598426 130887 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was (2+(1< [(2+(1`shiftL`x))`shiftL`(-1-(1`shiftL`x)) | x <- [-2..2]] < 1379598601 821195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1379598607 780838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1379598608 17864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1379598620 240340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t shiftL < 1379598625 933462 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bits a => a -> Int -> a < 1379598631 301053 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379598732 998222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok if x is negative, that gives 2<<(-1), which should be 1. < 1379598745 54782 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379598783 769543 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it should be 0 < 1379598795 947368 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you came to this :D < 1379598928 927784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the idea is that shifting y right by y would give 0 for any number, but by decreasing the shift slightly you can get a few exceptions. < 1379598947 876710 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, #esoteric < 1379598986 455268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, step 1: 1< [09:20:01] oerjan: how many hth variants are your barred from? < 1379600189 316233 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[10:06:08] [09:21:15] boily: hth, twh, twnh, tdh and < 1379600191 789844 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rofl < 1379600223 746278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not allowed to use them at the end of sentences < 1379600227 300604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the "and" < 1379600233 264033 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know =P < 1379600241 858662 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I found it funny < 1379600257 300366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just curious as to what that last one was < 1379600260 995374 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's tdnh < 1379600268 105545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yeah, probably < 1379600269 684573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thaks < 1379600271 821923 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379600272 113231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379600273 704970 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would help, that would not help, that did help, that did not help < 1379600275 945984 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/a/an/g < 1379600287 236428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: most of them are in the wisdom. < 1379600288 70006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, netsplit! < 1379600288 690407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600289 214127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1379600290 570078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1379600321 729950 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a nice conversation with Koen the other day, re: netsplits < 1379600330 879734 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about being on the "right side" of the split < 1379600350 135341 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how he always managed to do that, since it was always the other side that quit the channel < 1379600376 365708 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600377 221045 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1379600383 176434 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Tayler < 1379600386 795544 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06Tayler: Welco04m11e to the02 intern04ational hub for e02sote14ri04c prog14ra05mming 04language design and 04deploymen14t03! F10or more info09rmatio11n, c13heck out our w07iki10: h11ttp://esolan02g11s.org/wiki/07Main_Page.08 (12F05or th05e other 05kind of esoterica, try #eso13teric on irc.dal.14net.)12 < 1379600389 602151 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here? < 1379600393 109955 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup ^^ < 1379600426 387231 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600428 689316 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Roujo < 1379600435 266307 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heya. How is it going? < 1379600437 202359 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up? < 1379600441 49809 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moon, mostly < 1379600447 684583 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, updog < 1379600454 532304 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 273 seconds < 1379600471 159234 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the moon? < 1379600476 214150 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the moon is up < 1379600483 854189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs updog < 1379600508 154453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: SNAPPY < 1379600510 877908 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you from? it's day in my house rsrs < 1379600527 43179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3990 < 1379600530 566711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tayler: It's day here as well, and yet the moon is up < 1379600564 727881 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get it hehe < 1379600573 778096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Most of those are about dupdog. That's sad =P < 1379600583 560636 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kkkkkk < 1379600591 160626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, but look further < 1379600600 406314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm elliott split < 1379600605 98327 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : And then elliott brought in another totally unrelated bot named updog which did nothing but say "what's updog" whenever its name was mentioned. < 1379600605 828313 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379600681 312974 :Tayler!~elielsonr@179.145.134.253 PART :#esoteric < 1379600725 353251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he left! why do they always leave! I was typing the The Question! and asking him about his opinion on the malleability of steal! < 1379600735 173182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next time elliott complains about botspam in the channel, just mention updog < 1379600742 888172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not. < 1379600765 803973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's ok you don't need to ask the the question of people who aren't staying < 1379600789 894347 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but it's fun... < 1379600794 851636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposed to be the center of mass of #esoteric, not people-who-once-passed-through-#esoteric < 1379600819 75872 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the Regular Center of Mass, not the Transient one < 1379600828 206249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I only log the Relevänt Coördinates of People who Stay Here Enough to be Graphed by Fizzie. < 1379600857 633670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shudders in terror at the memories of transient responses in unstable dynamic systems
< 1379600882 829378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1379600906 523231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and besides, I assume temporary visitors have no measurable mass. < 1379600936 776907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well they're basically virtual particles, so presumably they borrow mass from the vacuum. < 1379600994 127335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in light of that multidimensional eldritch amplitudedron, that confuses me even moreso. < 1379601014 49882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hedron < 1379601034 664692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just yog sototh, nothing to be upset about < 1379601052 658535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+h < 1379601081 62415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I was worried there for a moment. < 1379601432 667128 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379601533 184992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. «updog (~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca) a rejoint #esoteric». < 1379601533 370123 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379601542 238260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtle. real subtle. < 1379601570 528143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it was inevatble. < 1379601606 253883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i considered suggesting it, until i remembered how much trouble it was last time < 1379601684 26845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm .ca, perhaps this isn't elliott's work < 1379601698 798702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION glares at Roujo
< 1379601711 177442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much trouble is it if no one actually says updog < 1379601711 322452 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379601734 492313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, that's not the troublesome part iirc < 1379601800 670321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's hosted somewhere on a server probably southeast from downtown Montréal. < 1379601826 944066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: why do you think i'm glaring at Roujo < 1379601847 310446 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what you're talking about < 1379601852 151075 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no server involved at all < 1379601862 746894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: neither did elliott, last time < 1379601937 769971 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the worst that could happen? =P < 1379601964 78790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T ASK THAT QUESTION < 1379601972 276435 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :...too late? < 1379601980 431987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, you'd think he doesn't even _read_ tvtropes < 1379601985 393703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :69.70.0.0/16 belongs to Vidéotron. 69.70.96.0/19 is tied to a small hosting provider, linked to the Parti Québécois. the nearest good phở is in Chinatown. < 1379602010 684218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION touches wood. no way I'm gonna get jinxed by an untroper.
< 1379602014 848037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: i see boily is slowly revealing all the important relevant information < 1379602039 561971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or – if BSD is involved – xkcd < 1379602050 132428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1379602050 595352 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379602101 924357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this probably explains /dev/null/nethack, actually, which uses BSD exclusively < 1379602110 185857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's run by NetHack players, they know how to deal with sharks < 1379602124 992029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the extra effort that takes subtracts from the time actually getting the tournament running < 1379602164 366386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: congratulations, you've managed to be too obscure to google < 1379602202 557416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because I don't rely on Google, I don't structure my sentences in such a way that Google can easily explain what they're about < 1379602207 188096 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which part were you trying to google? < 1379602246 219226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i have only got to the xkcd part < 1379602294 37132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/349/ < 1379602297 108837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found via duckduckgo < 1379602339 666312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a direct link, but the explainkcd page about it was the third result for "xkcd bsd sharks" < 1379602346 488300 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :From broken desktop to sharks in 14 hours flat < 1379602347 258097 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379602387 228259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i was trying to include "worst that could happen" < 1379602400 303473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this conversation is probably some deeply profound statement about search engines < 1379602403 676122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just not sure what < 1379602449 854306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote reference #also this < 1379602451 907984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :88) Darn, now I can't acknowledge the reference you were making. < 1379602454 815586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1379602477 938883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote obscure < 1379602479 504064 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :798) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1379602489 457023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone remove the quote. < 1379602519 118193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of quotes, what should I down about those from People that Left the Channel and Probably will Never be Back? < 1379602552 696137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep them < 1379602559 370664 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :For they shouldn't be forgotten < 1379602587 154381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 798 < 1379602606 13011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523.*cultur < 1379602607 734850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379602619 527202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*cultur < 1379602624 711557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes ais523 < 1379602625 825670 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 798 < 1379602635 96014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18809 < 1379602637 543978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :798) the scene: it is a warm summer's day in scotland, although one obscured by cloud and the fact that it is september < 1379602640 696896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379602643 655130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379602646 879782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-08-24.txt:23:42:16: ais523: also, rich for you to say essentially "how can not know " < 1379602730 864825 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I'll lump them in a section, then. < 1379602787 19992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*obscure < 1379602795 867075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-02-06.txt:17:17:28: ais523: i think yours is a bit too obscure, yeah < 1379602804 344262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SIGH* < 1379602846 876803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need more search terms than that < 1379602851 195116 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to find, anyway? < 1379602856 1821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you need to find it to know what it is? < 1379602859 502412 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :An obscure quote, probably < 1379602884 43774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i don't remember the wording used < 1379602909 882673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i vaguely recall having trouble searching for it before < 1379603113 961708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who are you, so that I may not have to lump you and that you may Shine with your Own Section? < 1379603126 836828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog ais523.*obscure.*reference < 1379603135 479005 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-04-29.txt:17:11:51: ais523: OBSCURE REFERENCE BUDDIES *HI5* < 1379603146 779995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1379603156 751379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog \.*obscure.*reference < 1379603165 881939 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012-03-04.txt:05:10:37: 2011-12-01.txt:21:31:28: (on another note, I love the way that the standard way to indicate that you get a reference is to make a different obscure reference to the same thing) < 1379603182 289641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it that one that you're looking for? < 1379603183 262405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1379603268 294437 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am the world's number one expert on Befunge and Funge-98. < 1379603273 458775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily, it returned a previous search attempt instead of the original < 1379603310 422281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: thanks. < 1379603326 984690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Deewiant is the world's number one expert on Befunge and Funge-98. < 1379603331 981569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379603368 200110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I agree with Deewiant there < 1379603387 785400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ages, the ontopic discussion here was sustained via Deewiant and Vorpal discussing Funge-98 < 1379603401 40703 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember who said that originally. (I know it wasn't me.) < 1379603402 41812 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've had on-topic discussion here? < 1379603412 416202 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379603428 239856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah < 1379603432 942929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be ontopic all the time < 1379603446 250615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it stopped, and I stopped going here because there was no reason to stay < 1379603447 405215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the channel is Old. I'm digging deep into its History as we speak. < 1379603452 587899 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, well, there used to be offtopic discussion too < 1379603458 710403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was a smaller proportion < 1379603464 859599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was also rather more distasteful) < 1379603472 708936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog expert on Befunge and Funge-98 < 1379603473 541229 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :On-topic conversation will not be tolerated. < 1379603477 638404 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote did you even read the bible < 1379603479 445782 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379603479 648204 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379603483 847518 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It probably wasn't in those words. < 1379603485 622531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you really want to drive me away from the channel again? < 1379603493 659231 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379603495 726851 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_< < 1379603525 915472 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to create another language < 1379603585 476744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnooordl < 1379603678 883365 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to try and collab? < 1379603687 402531 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And usher forth a new age of esolangs! < 1379603691 571980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the idea? =) < 1379603692 733390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: sure < 1379603708 999769 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all we need is a cool idea < 1379603740 616692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379603754 101751 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something to do with modulo arithmetic? < 1379603761 811861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of my ideas were either a) made into esolangs, b) turned out to be almost impossible to make into esolangs, or c) I haven't had the time to work out the details of < 1379603787 449974 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my ideas were either a) stupid, or b) stupid and also made into esolangs < 1379603812 819662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, even stupid ideas can be interesting esolangs < 1379603812 997972 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379603816 17385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see Quiler, for instance < 1379603836 290461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I just searched that on Bulbapedia rather than Esolang by mistake < 1379603839 401858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no results, unsurprisingly < 1379603869 973771 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Esolang made out of Pokemon! < 1379603897 275362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PokéArena < 1379603902 672457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dataflow / visual programming of the bastard child of Maple, Mathematica and Matlab! < 1379603912 903802 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g o/g version o/ < 1379603918 148922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfinished, by the look of things < 1379603925 978231 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a bit unwieldy =P < 1379603954 208406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see me and zzo38 trying to make PokéArena more realistic on the talk page < 1379603971 197501 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking more along the lines of pokemon being variables, with attacks being keywords (the effect depending on the type) < 1379603975 73478 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1379604050 268123 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, like you said on the talk page =P < 1379604051 595818 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH WELL < 1379604075 766345 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could start over with a new Pokémon-themed esolang < 1379604114 617950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: typo on page 34 of the quotes PDF: there's a ~ that's rendering as a nbsp rather than a ~ < 1379604158 602715 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it "Battle" or something < 1379604200 19488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that there's only 6 Pokémon on a team, with 4 attacks, 1 item, 1 ability each < 1379604206 616335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting hard limits on the size of the program < 1379604210 827534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's interesting in its own right < 1379604232 288882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice catch. I'll have it replaced soon. < 1379604246 993770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: say, do you have a github account, so that you may commit it yourself? < 1379604251 157695 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, each Pokémon 6 stats, an experience value, a nature... < 1379604259 796146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Taneb is atriq? < 1379604267 564394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just Gitorious < 1379604274 788322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a mostly irrational hatred of github < 1379604282 1466 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379604298 762024 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes, I swear this is about the third time you've come to this revelation < 1379604304 331538 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also Ngevd < 1379604308 455013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you're Ngevd < 1379604311 359760 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And this morning I registered nvd < 1379604323 366542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is atriq a rot-13'd ngevd? < 1379604336 315532 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1379604346 858929 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 atriq < 1379604347 956160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ngevd < 1379604353 672031 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 taneb < 1379604355 411881 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnaro < 1379604360 682464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: time to face you fears. otherwise, spiders, your mom, and all that psychanalysis stuff. < 1379604365 353742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did you ever design that Rummy mixed with Breakout language? < 1379604368 600637 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gnaro" sounds like it ought to be a Pokémon < 1379604376 215365 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1379604376 722939 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't think so < 1379604384 513475 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember the context for that < 1379604388 368929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 rot13 < 1379604390 78494 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebg13 < 1379604391 485783 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote rummy < 1379604393 204603 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :435) So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? < 1379604401 297403 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot26 rot13 < 1379604402 653363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rot26: not found < 1379604402 798891 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was me badly misunderstanding something < 1379604404 769452 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff < 1379604427 78350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it's called `echo < 1379604444 319255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "rot13 four times" is one of the stupidest of the Slashdot memes < 1379604485 354198 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379604493 611888 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 Slashdot | rot13 | rot13 | rot13 < 1379604495 226465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fynfuqbg | ebg13 | ebg13 | ebg13 < 1379604500 496092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379604502 310425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rot13 Slashdot | rot13 | rot13 | rot13 < 1379604504 599752 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379604510 18850 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would a rummy-mixed-with-breakout esolang look like? < 1379604517 769749 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rummy, and Breakout, presumably < 1379604536 972080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the ball would bounce off the cards < 1379604537 946829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: who are you? are you Deewiant? do you want to be undescribed, lumped or separated? < 1379604556 630423 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, in Rummy you have to collect (say 7 card hands) a 7-card straight or a 3 of a kind and a 4 of a kind < 1379604571 669799 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that, yes < 1379604573 686188 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In breakout, you have to bounce a ball on a paddle to destroy bricks < 1379604578 272763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379604606 569817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the rummy part could have limited storage and be used for control flow and the like < 1379604617 921664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the breakout part could be for the unlimited storage < 1379604619 849020 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Quit: requested < 1379604650 534883 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I shall certainly think about this < 1379604659 83742 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I must leave! < 1379604677 885590 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379605051 325380 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379605055 966757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the early recorded history of the channel seems to be centered on sex... < 1379605081 4273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it was < 1379605092 433691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tended to stay out of those discussions < 1379605144 589337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that Armok isn't on the Wiki < 1379605204 663386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/Frib/Armok < 1379605223 565516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think the Deewiant era is where fungot came from < 1379605223 711112 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as long as you keep crono in your heart, the day of lavos"... go to " leene square" 1000 a.d.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1379605232 725784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, must be set to chrono trigger mode < 1379605290 866053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but fungot is fizzie's! < 1379605291 11336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but, we are far outnumbered! princess! i see you're dressing...normally again! chaos confuses you into attacking allies! a little tough on friendships! blind you can't see too well, ho!! see ya around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca < 1379605294 988883 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1379605295 134264 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1379605312 805922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, fizzie was using the improvements in Funge-98 interpreter design to test out fungot on < 1379605312 990587 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by thy leave, crono?!! you brought back my cat! thank you, crono! < 1379605319 163729 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I dimly remember fun­got appearing at some point < 1379605377 428194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fungot had to be created at some point in time < 1379605377 574115 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! < 1379605385 71985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't just existed forever < 1379605388 74120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, relevant answer, neat) < 1379605404 379653 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could have been here before me, in which case I wouldn't remember its appearance < 1379605422 675297 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or after, but I haven't left yet and it's already here.) < 1379605547 827464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perhaps some kind of a stable time loop. < 1379605578 521719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In 2047, I'll use HackEgo's `send-to-the-past command to send it back to whenever it was it appeared. < 1379605594 210418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're getting /very/ close to Feather territory there… < 1379605614 25178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also in 2047: EgoBot still won't be merged in HackEgo. < 1379605622 236830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why did I get five contradictory responses to /ctcp version? < 1379605624 400695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df < 1379605624 988313 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No need for an unimplemented HackEgo feature, we already have TRDS < 1379605625 695563 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1379605642 401854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df / < 1379605644 164919 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory \ Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on \ - 0 0 0 - / < 1379605652 190178 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2047, Hong Kong will be merged into China. < 1379605694 45057 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: They don't ALL contradict. < 1379605712 798760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the xchat ones all give different processor speeds < 1379605720 264220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it turned out not to be called Windows 9 after all < 1379605770 959033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat's "processor speed in ctcp version" thing is kind of silly. < 1379605811 281873 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1379605812 545631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They could just put the vpenis.sh output in it directly.) < 1379605877 518256 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :find /proc -type f -exec cat {} ';' < 1379605915 759426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any -type f in /proc? < 1379605918 789875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you forgot the `run < 1379605928 417772 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also "forgot" the ` < 1379605934 456714 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since that wasn't intended for HackEgo. < 1379605940 867081 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a suggestion of how to make a CTCP VERSION line. < 1379605953 734874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379605957 415163 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, of course, most of /proc is files. < 1379605967 347672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I thought none of it was regular files < 1379605977 622728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might be full of irregular files pretending to be regular files < 1379606228 412087 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell asiekierka lumps and bumps and sections and stuff. < 1379606491 151732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes django < 1379606497 814896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.27727 < 1379606750 292539 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.187.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379606792 340843 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379606802 229509 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379606958 810625 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: does Dwarf Fortress even allow you to craft items out of lava? < 1379606991 735606 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379607254 657386 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It allows you to direct dwarves to craft items out of former lava. < 1379607366 564601 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379607472 349480 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379607495 659317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :insufficient :( < 1379607624 424767 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've reading about skousen's analogical modeling, and I think it would be a fun logic language. You could tell it 2+2=4, 3+3=6 and 3+2=5 so when you asked it what 2+3 equals half the time it would say 4 and half the time 6 < 1379607648 176991 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even have to define functors < 1379607823 611076 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Quit: brb < 1379607848 947234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work? < 1379607862 865080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just looks for the closest match and randomizes between them? < 1379607956 864280 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogical_Modeling < 1379608014 359734 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it finds the set of generalized matches that minimizes internal dissagreement < 1379608043 963366 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then has them vote on the result < 1379608057 199319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379608167 301121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty eso < 1379608232 337583 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379608299 635958 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a couple other algorithms that do about the same thing, but they are used for modeling how people generalize a set of examples to categorize new instances. < 1379608376 589119 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379608481 204967 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: does Dwarf Fortress even allow you to craft items out of lava? < 1379608482 426357 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379608488 989669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity < 1379608500 401662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does let you pour it on nobles making unreasonable demands < 1379608755 920869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1379608767 894359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that your preferred method of disposing of them? < 1379608772 470363 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can cool lava and make obsidian items < 1379608910 727185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, although admittedly i never actually implemented it < 1379609063 631646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609095 998247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was more common to drown them, or create rooms that they would fall out of < 1379609108 998995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, is it possible to exile dwarves, rather than just killing them? < 1379609114 948818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :locking them out of the fortress, or the like? < 1379609159 265602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that either amounts to killing them or has no effect < 1379609167 529435 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609179 519636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're alive, and their mandates aren't met, they'll still be able to issue random punishments < 1379609222 175496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people will actually pay attention to them? < 1379609232 296509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems unrealistic < 1379609245 334823 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are dwarves. < 1379609407 646854 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :DF < 1379609410 832386 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Realistic < 1379609421 864863 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. It *is* pretty realistic at times. < 1379609459 143562 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet dwarves will go outside, one after the other, in the middle of a siege, just to try and get that wool sock that's lying aroud < 1379609473 150403 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :df <3 < 1379609585 797792 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that game < 1379609624 719003 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you guys know about the Armok programming language? < 1379609686 922231 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds amazing < 1379609701 615051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : and people will actually pay attention to them? < 1379609712 266951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just goes straight through to your justice system < 1379609738 239604 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379609742 282180 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually you can completely neuter them just by not establishing one, but that has other disadvantages < 1379609934 646871 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://github.com/Frib/Armok < 1379609946 448500 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm reading it < 1379609965 886778 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :No nobles yet, but still =P < 1379610077 606506 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwarves handle rocks... you can get rocks by mining... that makes me wondering, is that a zero-sum programming language? < 1379610105 95289 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in the only way to increment a variable is to decrement another, or something < 1379610115 555698 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379610125 559409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mining creates 64 rocks from one block < 1379610129 690914 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do we have other zero-sum esolangs? < 1379610151 269136 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would indeed be interesting < 1379610179 158016 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Call it Equilibrium or something < 1379610183 489544 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be original, imagine the following brainfuck-derivative < 1379610194 567987 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayyy, YABFD! < 1379610220 818888 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an unbounded tape of -128 to +127 non-wrapping cells, all starting at zero < 1379610247 339000 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hmmm there's a toggle which can be PLUS or MINUS < 1379610258 872016 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it's at plus, the - instruction is a no-op < 1379610267 379313 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when it's at minus, the + instruction is a no-op < 1379610282 759998 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say, + in your language is like +>-< in BF < 1379610284 450620 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instructions are the same as in brainfuck except every usage of + or - toggles the toggle < 1379610290 149199 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you have zero-sum < 1379610302 57088 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm yeah I'm afraid < 1379610316 941713 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it's not so interesting then < 1379610322 133741 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen's version sounds a lot more impractical < 1379610322 316465 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379610324 376283 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it < 1379610334 183876 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379610361 111818 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379610397 832918 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yeah but you could convert any brainfuck program into this derivative by replacing + with +>-<, - with ->+<, > with >> and < with << < 1379610408 324712 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for the non-wrapping thing) < 1379610428 54622 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Righ =P < 1379610431 435729 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right( < 1379610435 823580 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit < 1379610441 160504 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's boring < 1379610457 349581 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay what about: < 1379610460 784736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just make it so that odd cells can only be incremented < 1379610463 332146 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every cell starts as 1 < 1379610470 51527 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even cells can only be incremented < 1379610473 848787 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cells can only be positive < 1379610475 143020 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1379610483 450684 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :even cells can only be decremented < 1379610502 922093 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1379610508 861911 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore you can't double every cell with its negative < 1379610517 440385 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because there are no negatives) < 1379610525 943174 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this < 1379610538 279203 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everytime you increment a cell, a random sector of your HD is decremented < 1379610545 406278 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And vice-versa < 1379610550 337982 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379610555 509094 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you could start with an initialization loop that fills a lot of cells with +128 but that would be reaaaaaally impractical < 1379610571 511744 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahah < 1379610576 629116 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379610601 129285 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: This interpreter must be run as root. Don't ask why. Just let it be." < 1379610619 833152 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write directly to /dev/sda < 1379610622 909507 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because < 1379610625 153681 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379610634 565609 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it default on suicide linux < 1379610640 915742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suicide Linux <3 < 1379610816 88157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to make a BF deriv that a) isn't stupid, and b) you can't trivially compile BF into < 1379610821 808584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not impossible < 1379610890 363612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf2d :p < 1379610948 182476 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, replacing the tape with a single tape makes it equivalent to push-down automata, and therefore you can't compile bf into it < 1379610956 292620 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a single stack < 1379610967 340152 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if you replace the tape with a punch-card < 1379610974 896204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yeah, BF-PDA < 1379610985 42846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not that interesting either IMO < 1379610993 298510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess a Splinter→BF-PDA compiler could be interesting < 1379611010 81288 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not interesting why does it have three or more pages on the wiki? < 1379611015 998050 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainstack, stackfuck, etc < 1379611028 665536 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stackstack" < 1379611061 720818 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainqueue would be much more interesting < 1379611062 966910 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brstackck < 1379611075 729193 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :QQ < 1379611294 362194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : if it's not interesting why does it have three or more pages on the wiki? ← because BF derivative < 1379611405 718147 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha I like the BF-PDA page < 1379611414 954593 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"possible modifications" < 1379611430 237597 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379611440 48322 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "this is brainfuck with a stack, you got the general idea, do whatever you want with the details" < 1379611442 896817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's with the BF-derivative hate? =P < 1379611452 429921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog brick.*brain < 1379611460 201333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2011-11-09.txt:06:33:57: And delegate the brickbraining to me. < 1379611462 271649 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's more like BF-derivative sadness < 1379611484 846867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we'd like the esolangs to be more interesting than yet more pointless derivations of BF < 1379611496 278388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some good ones (PaintFuck is a good one I didn't write) < 1379611500 414828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but plenty more stupid ones < 1379611527 29249 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so it's a matter of them being unoriginal, then? < 1379611586 869053 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, phantom-hoover.tumblr.com < 1379611590 566506 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there are some good ones, and also one good one I didn't write" < 1379611679 670265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: there's more than one good one I didn't write < 1379611688 426174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought that would be an amusing way to word the sentence < 1379611707 27555 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be reassured I was amused < 1379611814 202211 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1379611845 135718 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379611874 999072 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>It replaces part of boolfuck with words such as “derp” and “herp” < 1379611911 393768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kPRA0W1kECg < 1379611914 103814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :man this is cool < 1379612034 497660 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Quick sort is amazing < 1379612051 110838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait til you get to lsd radix < 1379612072 317974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merge sort sounds like good old computer sounds you hear in movies < 1379612118 495231 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap radix sort < 1379612246 2038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitonic is good too < 1379612348 386531 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if we just sorted the actual bits? < 1379612359 121229 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be quicker? < 1379612385 455102 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nevermind, that was a bad joke) < 1379612426 617141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well basically it's a question of working out how many 1's there are in the input < 1379612458 178349 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more efficient to count the 0 bits < 1379612490 90243 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be more efficient? =P < 1379612540 622206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379612609 852768 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what Bitonic sort is doing < 1379612620 746701 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1379612622 541461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bogosort < 1379612633 527612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ~parallel~ and therefore crazy afaict < 1379612657 621230 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww, they didn't let it finish D: < 1379612698 789687 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379612848 802257 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bogosort is so cute < 1379612885 780733 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the worst algorithm I've heard of, though =P < 1379612897 494798 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also Intelligent Design Sort < 1379612926 572363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379612933 459340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who crystal-cola is, but I like them. proper LaTeX in their replies. < 1379612946 739841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there we go: Miracle Sort < 1379612965 428803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's bogobogosort too < 1379613048 912181 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intelligent Design Sort: The probability that the input list would be in the order it's in is 1/(n!). That probability is so small that the list *must* be that way for a reason. To try to sort the list further shows ignorance of the Sorter's ways. < 1379613053 989077 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb < 1379613117 538100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell NihilistDandy can I extract some kind of biography from your person, so that you may be paraquoted? < 1379613123 919887 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379613337 193681 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379613458 944702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New in version 3.2" "3.1.3-12+squeeze1" oh no < 1379613957 763453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: who are you? where do you come from? are you a living entity? what is the effect of capitalism on the growth of birch trees? < 1379614065 3949 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say that effect is rather uneven < 1379614165 593889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows. maybe there's a correlation between the two! (r² < 0.01) < 1379614301 750127 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :r squared of negative zero < 1379614609 86158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I /nicked myself groily... < 1379614615 703643 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you now? < 1379614618 184038 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see it < 1379614619 608735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gnarly. < 1379614620 866728 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see anything < 1379614632 888793 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a while, really < 1379614648 226415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some weird stuff going on in the disparate quotes... < 1379615023 646701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615455 504362 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, sleepsort. Sounds nice enough. < 1379615503 839814 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615592 563095 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379615603 418574 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :insertion sort looks like it's using dichotomy to find where to insert the elements < 1379615611 428747 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing? dichotomy insertion sort < 1379615669 521779 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used insertion sort mainly when the data to sort isn't all available at once, it can do one at a time, sorting it into another buffer < 1379615686 847905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about dichotomy insertion sort, though. < 1379615709 74256 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615834 314013 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379615835 139489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: I don't know what a "dichotomy" means in that context, but if you mean it determines the insertion position with a binary search (over the already-sorted part), I think that's called "binary insertion sort". < 1379615845 710139 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1379615868 51768 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though such an insertion in an array sounds kinda dumb since you have to move everything anyway < 1379615885 14314 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a linked list! =D < 1379615888 527867 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cutting a list in half usually isn't O(1) either < 1379615893 558573 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubly linked, too! < 1379615915 654297 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess you'd need some kind of tree structure for that to be efficient < 1379615917 611246 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintuply linked is the way to go < 1379615929 218191 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it sounds like we just reinvented heap sort < 1379615929 658576 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finding the spot to insert it in would be O(n), actually putting it in would be O(1) < 1379615937 295179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: It can be a good idea if the comparisons are expensive but swaps are not. (List of pointers to long strings or whatever.) < 1379615946 979025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/master/tutorial-conditions.html#conditions these are pretty weird < 1379615950 843758 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: O(n) dichotomy doesn't sound very useful < 1379615961 721100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like... dynamically bound delimited continuations? i don't even know < 1379615963 526683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, you're doing a binary search < 1379615965 859268 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better! < 1379615981 428187 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm I guess that makes sense < 1379616005 892849 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool, it's like CL's. < 1379616031 595945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL has this? < 1379616042 931265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work well? < 1379616071 921608 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A successfully trapped condition causes execution to continue at the site of the error, as though no error occurred. < 1379616073 987376 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1379616100 636634 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically when you "handle" a condition you install a type-function pair in the dynamic environment, and then when an error happens it looks through the dynamic environment to find a pair with the type of the error < 1379616117 942774 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can make a code that has "x / y" somewhere in it, and wrap it in a "try ... with Division_by_zero -> 3" and if y = 0 it will act as if x / y = 3 ? < 1379616124 539443 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on error resume;" < 1379616127 420361 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really very useful, like for example, when i had an irc bot it would raise an "i don't understand this type of message" condition < 1379616140 144060 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in my code i just had it handle that as ignore and continue and it worked great < 1379616140 289204 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all the quotes from anybody ever are currently covered. < 1379616153 452417 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"throw new IDontEvenException("wat");" < 1379616154 377221 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using an external irc library i didn't want to mess with, i mean < 1379616173 132736 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Congrats! =) < 1379616182 34864 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: i think so. < 1379616194 395001 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :conditions freak me out a bit < 1379616197 331508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they feel a little spaghetti < 1379616209 49130 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they're easy to fuck up probably < 1379616209 452636 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's really very useful, like for example, when the key doesn't go in the lock I just have to force and it works great" < 1379616210 75120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they kinda break RT :P < 1379616216 996653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rt? < 1379616224 360660 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank goodness rust has like nine types of error handling apparently < 1379616247 486267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :referential transparency < 1379616257 702812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just like haskell! i feel so at home < 1379616268 107300 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (x / 0) is _|_ but then it's also 123 or 346534563456536 instead depending on the surrounding context < 1379616276 753974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess you could just separate asynchronous exceptions out as a separate concern. < 1379616300 946996 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw is it me or did they drastically reduce the number of elements to sort when showing off particularly inefficient sorts?) < 1379616308 129449 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL: (handler-case (/ 4 3) (division-by-zero () 3)) => 4/3, (handler-case (/ 4 0) (division-by-zero () 3)) => 3 < 1379616313 769010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably learn how to use delimited continuations one day < 1379616314 359245 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen, yes < 1379616316 591193 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1379616321 320227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dittomc < 1379616337 967647 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you used Cont? :P < 1379616344 195782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Haskell? yes < 1379616373 745271 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used Cont in Rust! < 1379616379 440571 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379616380 758513 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's rust-factorial < 1379616386 283362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1379616399 215881 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponentially rustier for the hands-on ninja developer. < 1379616409 279067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, delimited continuations are just Cont, pretty much. < 1379616415 665655 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome sorts looks like it's trying to do insertion sort but the insertion is very approximative < 1379616434 848258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is my skeptical face < 1379616440 210636 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome sort is insertion crossed with bubble < 1379616445 468060 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is the mother of all, kmc. < 1379616456 949422 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ContExample.hs [4K] < 1379616457 94558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sample shift/reset code in Haskell, in the Cont monad -- the monad for delimited control < 1379616458 415169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bubble-insertion sort < 1379616467 228031 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset :: Cont a a -> Cont w a < 1379616467 373413 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :reset = return . runC < 1379616467 373485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift :: ((a -> w) -> Cont w w) -> Cont w a < 1379616467 373546 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- for new mtl 2.x < 1379616467 373602 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift f = cont (runC . f) < 1379616480 163446 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an Oleg face but I'd be using it if I did < 1379616489 575725 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: just had to merge some stuff and do minor corrections. please check the new PDF. < 1379616491 22723 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitonic sort: merge sort except the merging part reshuffles the list < 1379616496 255985 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still have no idea wtf bitonic sort is < 1379616507 728661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dymaxion sort < 1379616508 938290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there something on page 34 with a tilde being incorrectly parsed? < 1379616512 467052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, bitonic sort is awesome < 1379616513 149419 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run fetch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1379616515 286582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: fetch: command not found < 1379616521 226560 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf < 1379616521 744778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most parallelizable of sorting algorithms < 1379616526 749362 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-09-19 18:48:45 URL:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf [476823/476823] -> "wisdom.pdf" [1] < 1379616532 506929 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom.pdf < 1379616533 930770 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%PDF-1.5 \ %���� \ 2 0 obj << \ /Type /ObjStm \ /N 100 \ /First 798 \ /Length 1046 \ /Filter /FlateDecode \ >> \ stream \ xڅ�mo�6���S���D.E�ui��v < 1379616543 520743 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Looks like garbage. hth. < 1379616545 748352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's pretty similar to mergesort in how it works < 1379616560 487239 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwwwwwwww bogosort < 1379616569 182447 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp just gives us this helpful diagram http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/BitonicSort1.svg < 1379616573 581915 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps Roujo with a slightly damp soviet-era sorting algorithm
< 1379616742 13698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "While the jth record is being processed during a straight insertion sort, we compare its key with about j/2 of the previously sorted keys, on the average; -- [We can use a binary search.] This method is called /binary insertion/; it was mentioned by John Mauchly as early as 1964, in the first published discussion of computer sorting. The unfortunate difficulty with binary insertion is ... < 1379616748 534611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... that it solves only half of the problem; after we have found where record R_j is to be inserted, we still need to move about (1/2)j of the previously sorted records in order to make room for R_j, so the total running time is still essentially proportional to N^2." -- D. Knuth, /The Art of Computer Programming, Vol. 3, Sorting and Searching/. Second Edition, Addison-Wesley, 1998, chapter ... < 1379616755 448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... 5.2.1, pp. 82. < 1379616761 340340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. < 1379616764 144448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koan: ^ < 1379616773 179245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er. "Koen". < 1379616801 203661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The comment was so long that I couldn't see the attribution line any more. (Don't know where the Bike came from.) < 1379616887 572170 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1379616907 133518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379616924 673497 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then does he uses that to think "okay, we need a data structure that allows dichotomy search, but also has O(1) insertion? < 1379616941 356827 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and come up with some tree sort or something < 1379616946 129769 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does he use* < 1379616957 259361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: This PDF won't load in my computer; do you have another file? < 1379616977 436100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1379617035 969598 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what pdf viewer are you using < 1379617041 469940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What < 1379617058 650173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: the curse of zzo38's setup < 1379617099 248460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: No. After describing the two-way insertion sort (another trick), it continues with shellsort and other things. < 1379617117 990975 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would recommend evince < 1379617131 220099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a file other than PDF? < 1379617133 250816 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhh silly me I thought "shellsort" stood for "the sort command in the shell" < 1379617140 415082 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it opens with evince < 1379617159 433215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how come? what's happening? < 1379617174 251569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it opens with okular. < 1379617181 469621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other day, I generated a PDF file locally and tried to submit it to IEEE. and got a "this file could not be converted to PDF" error back. < 1379617186 991590 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: There's the original LaTeX file, if you want it < 1379617188 240402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i recommend sending him a dvi < 1379617207 730550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out the pdfTeX-1.40.13 I have here generates a PDF 1.5 file, while the pdfTeX-1.40.10 sticks to PDF 1.4, and that made all the difference. < 1379617208 615047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source file will do fine, since I am sure I can load that in any text editor. < 1379617213 264609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll send you the dvi, and if you want you can join the github repo. < 1379617222 87421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, a DVI will also work fine. < 1379617250 536738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sticks/at work sticks/ < 1379617269 393965 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I took the compiler less updated by, and that made all the difference" < 1379617307 464319 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.dvi < 1379617335 197099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if that doesn't work, I can make a PS. < 1379617435 256741 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "burma": ask bike < 1379617449 796386 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is hereby asked < 1379617466 107314 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have downloaded it, now I have to wait for it to load the fonts < 1379617468 694279 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PART :#esoteric < 1379617497 271152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys were very creative with having me put through incongruous latex loops... < 1379617509 644949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the horrors I had to commit... < 1379617524 569989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, there's a \photon{} somewhere.) < 1379617552 258704 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379617560 581357 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? LaTeX < 1379617562 747582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LaTeX is \end{verbatim} \textbackslash textbackslash begin\textbackslash \{document\textbackslash \} < 1379617564 597135 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1379617597 957646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one was an easily dodgeable open attempt at trying to make my Glorious Document not compile. < 1379617615 296027 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't the goal, no < 1379617615 872778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the DVI doesn't work; dvitype crashed too < 1379617640 308460 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So did Yap and DVIOUT < 1379617684 212409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ldots{} \ldots{} \ldots{} < 1379617694 716080 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just what kind of setup do you have??? < 1379617768 630133 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : Roujo: the curse of zzo38's setup < 1379617772 887968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: MiKTeX < 1379617786 375607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: what do you want to know? < 1379617799 242745 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379617811 900891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is your github account? < 1379617814 679276 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: It does describe quite many variants of insertion sort, including the linked list insertion sort, and the tree-structured arrangement. ("This possibility was first explored about 1957 by D. J. Wheeler -- A similar but simpler tree-insertion scheme, using binary trees, was devised by C. M. Berners-Lee about 1958 -- Since the binary tree method and its refinements are quite important for ... < 1379617820 696274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... searching as well as sorting, they are discussed at length in Section 6.2.2".) The whole Shapter 5.2.1. ("Sorting by Insertion") is 26 pages long. < 1379617832 146668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shapter, yes. < 1379617858 352893 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't have any. < 1379617862 335967 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Shah Peter < 1379617864 542202 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I want to ask "burma" < 1379617867 213914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote "Chapter", then noticed it's called "Section" for references in the text itself, and somehow thought just changing the first letter was sufficient. < 1379617869 652372 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1379617874 564854 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have done so. < 1379617963 320620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.tar.bz2 < 1379618032 644644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :C. M. Berners-Lee, any relation to Tim? < 1379618044 287494 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618106 880321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: His father, I think. < 1379618116 168041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379618121 427478 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379618125 127919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618134 802467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway_Berners-Lee has no M < 1379618139 10018 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I hope downloading the sources didn't make your machine crash... < 1379618144 912681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: See the External Links section. < 1379618166 783699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It didn't crash (although I haven't extracted the archive yet). < 1379618172 246000 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379618200 429013 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heap sort is kinda twisted - we're gonna take the elements from the array to put them in a tree, then take the elements from the tree to put them back in the array - except the tree is stored in the array, so're basically we're completely reorganizing the array into a still-not-sorted-but-with-some-logic-you-cant-see-yet array that will be easier to sort in the future < 1379618211 469470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Well, all the "C. M. Berners-Lee" references. I don't know what the M stands for.) < 1379618225 406531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1379618240 131755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Most of the files have strange filename and other things probably not needed so I only extracted the *.tex files; those ones will load fine in a text editor. < 1379618252 843059 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides... Is there still interest in a programm that's fed with program code and determines the language(s) the code is written in? Cause I've got a concept. < 1379618257 872637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conway Middlename < 1379618295 659924 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: probably. Could be useful < 1379618313 974380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: OK, although such thing wouldn't always work < 1379618323 78700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can work sometimes, though. < 1379618327 535890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be worth a try. < 1379618347 179192 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can add it to google translate < 1379618355 795688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The marriage of Conway M Berners-Lee and Mary L Woods is registered at Hampstead, Middlesex 3rd quarter 1954 vol 5c page 1925 --" it seems a mystery, lots of references but none mentioning the expansion. < 1379618360 680676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it's listed *somewhere*. < 1379618361 729342 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google Code Translate" < 1379618402 997884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you only need the .tex files to compile the stuff. the source/ folder is a local copy of the wisdom DB. README.md is a readme. < 1379618404 23269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some programming languages can even vary their syntax, such as Forth and TeX < 1379618418 873344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"http://sprunge.us/bXPJ Tim talks of his parents. < 1379618426 677703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregard the ". < 1379618456 887859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, yes I have only extracted the *.tex so it is OK, but of course to compile it, I would also need LaTeX and all of the packages and fonts you used. I can just read it in the text editor it is fine, though. < 1379618493 27299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it is a fact. < 1379618524 562190 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :By now, just `pastequotes? =P < 1379618547 47064 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, boily added more than just the quotes. Nevermind ^^ < 1379618575 933234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added EVERYTHING! < 1379618703 690180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bright green is a little bit to light, imho... < 1379618725 28485 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little bit is lightable enough, isn't it? < 1379618756 667441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/too/, says I. < 1379618768 813324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/too/to/g, no u < 1379618775 890633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now I'm stuck with a Supertramp piece in my head. < 1379618794 163690 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(“give a little bit... ♪”) < 1379618833 799404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah. the phở uses the right font. I... don't know how it happened. < 1379618971 676386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there might be a few duplicates? (Or maybe I am wrong) < 1379618987 697364 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in splinter, if a capital letter is followed by '{', then it's the store-to-splinter instruction, and if it's not followed by '{', then it's the push-splinter-to-program instruction? < 1379618988 964558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should you change "Plain TeX" into "Plain \TeX" to print using the TeX logo? < 1379619026 781157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yes < 1379619045 846094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think, anyway < 1379619046 515302 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay thanks < 1379619050 920336 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay then if anyone is still interested in the Esolang identifier concept I made: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11001067/EsolangIdentifier%20Concept.txt < 1379619054 540144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't Splintered for ages < 1379619075 932557 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert turtles joke] < 1379619105 143986 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the duplicates are a conscious decision. if multiple people locute a quote, then I put it under each relevant section. < 1379619121 544994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, OK. < 1379619142 68143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I'll \TeXify the references to Plain TeX. < 1379619167 508215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain \TeX isn't used-- oh, nevermind < 1379619169 123949 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1379619178 208821 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist Terezi sniffs out a conspiracty < 1379619180 44337 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist Terezi sniffs out a conspiracty: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379619191 691164 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: how about first trying to identify if keywords are actually words ("if", "while", etc.) or rather single-char ops (like brainfuck) and then moving on to identifying them? < 1379619233 421174 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1379619246 636697 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... < 1379619252 688031 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: for what? ;) < 1379619264 754734 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if keywords are actually words then you can split the program into tokens according to whitespace < 1379619269 726813 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does `slist do? < 1379619272 526814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help slist < 1379619272 862623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1379619276 55223 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>nope < 1379619279 296263 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you're parsing befunge then every char is a token < 1379619316 478064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1379619318 699669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1379619342 984426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if you are using \verb! to quote something that contains a exclamation mark? < 1379619376 202138 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? list < 1379619377 805572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :list? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379619378 544853 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379619378 755274 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1379619399 346849 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: I don't differ between single-char keywords and multi-char keywords. There could be a language someday (or with high probability already is) that does so, too. < 1379619400 152410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `? list is dead? < 1379619404 117488 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn list is a fun program that HackEgo has! Run it with `list and join the fun! < 1379619409 165848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379619410 890377 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I use \verb+...+. < 1379619422 906417 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK. < 1379619439 409075 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: Whitespace has to be detected properly, too. I would not split anything. < 1379619443 932178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo Hats < 1379619444 195727 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hats < 1379619449 51963 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `list < 1379619449 359338 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1379619451 206641 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1379619463 813085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go! Bots can have fun too! < 1379619475 168413 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: And maybe some keywords even overlap... Like for example in a polyglot < 1379619494 431516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm having some problems with overfull hboxen, but nothing impossible to resolve. < 1379619501 208989 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: well I can think of http://esolangs.org/wiki/Alight which is especially weird to parse < 1379619501 868077 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hello world" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program < 1379619521 563447 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Well, I know how I can fix these things in Plain TeX, not in LaTeX though < 1379619560 824395 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's generally impossible to do perfect language detection, due to polyglots. Unless it reported all of the languages of course. < 1379619595 780816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Yes, that is one reason; there are also programming languages with varying syntax, programming languages that accept any input file, and other things. < 1379619605 816055 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "your mama" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program < 1379619635 871861 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is my first your mama joke ever < 1379619653 507979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: “Taneb: "your mama" is a perfectly valid brainfuck program” is a perfectly valid reason to make you choke on a ballistic bowl of gaszszszpascho. < 1379619663 196736 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, any file without unbalanced square brackets is a valid brainfuck program. < 1379619670 330498 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yes < 1379619676 95858 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to do it with snowflake! < 1379619680 419935 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, any text file, at least < 1379619690 265310 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess that doesn't apply :( < 1379619696 289169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowflake's syntax doesn't change < 1379619711 223149 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pity < 1379619723 311154 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the program is in emmental or mascarpone and the syntax evolves to have bits in every language in the wiki < 1379619796 556376 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: uh shit... well I hope that 1) there are at least some keywords in that language written horizontal. 2) the programmer is intelligent enough to recognize a 2D language -_- < 1379619815 285204 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't thought about option 2 < 1379619835 264751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know who crystal-cola is, but I like them. proper LaTeX in their replies. < 1379619847 600969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crystal-cola has gone by many nicks. < 1379619891 396869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swears in Québécois
< 1379619901 623785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who are they, then? < 1379619930 888300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mystery. not here at present. last time was as katla. < 1379619964 888739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unusual thing about last time is that e _didn't_ explode violently before leaving afair. < 1379619967 128204 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that's like wiping your arse with a silk hangman's rope < 1379620006 412559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at the recent CGA Collection? Do you like to write a review of it that fits in one line of the wisdom file? < 1379620035 361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck CGA Collection < 1379620035 145842 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379620048 99278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: j-invariant is probably also in the quotes file. < 1379620059 232686 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is the CGA Collection? < 1379620082 267034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is a collection of public domain computer games for DOS computers. < 1379620085 849157 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I... think I saw some of their quotes in there. peek at the last section ↑ < 1379620100 411856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP You can download the source-codes, executables, and documentation. < 1379620164 12789 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me guess. j-invariant is someone else. < 1379620177 187312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perusing that in a few minutes... I'm reformatting Taneb. < 1379620189 749427 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1379620364 776641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ZIP file will fit on a single 3.5" floppy disk. < 1379620392 728375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it need to be double density? < 1379620437 987001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are all nice and shiny, now. < 1379620440 2981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I haven't checked, but a 1.44MB high density disk works. < 1379620452 737952 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379620453 37298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does it work in qemu? < 1379620497 267059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or probably dosbox) < 1379620505 531496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have not tried, but if it has DOS then I expect it to work. < 1379620525 181861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : try to do it with snowflake! <-- itym emmental < 1379620540 97245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote fall in love < 1379620541 972047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :558) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love \ 578) 678) Dammit, Gregor, this is not the time to fall in love 187) Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1379620553 329717 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remember the context for that! < 1379620558 94047 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell =P < 1379620598 276917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: j-invariant = crystal-cola < 1379620599 548515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I named all my Pokemon after people in the channel < 1379620615 16215 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1379620616 390390 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :An opponent used "attract" on the one named for Gregor < 1379620622 80187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it works! < 1379620639 788402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK. Do you like this? < 1379620652 412691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379620653 942111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it! < 1379620679 953535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can play sokoban! < 1379620687 968244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me if you made up any new levels for any of these games, too. Or even, to make up new games in QBASIC to add onto this CGA Collection! < 1379620768 898082 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS SOUND! ☺♪ < 1379620769 262901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are two games mentioned in the documentation but which aren't yet completed enough to include in this CGA Collection; eventually it will be, though. < 1379620836 860700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I wrote the music for these games using the MML. < 1379620890 318844 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379620905 397288 :S1!4ff935fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.53.250 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379620908 868113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The music for the "SKEDALS" game is in Bohlen-Pierce, though. Most of them use ordinary 12-TET, however. < 1379621061 173472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you liket he other game too? Which ones did you try so far? < 1379621151 617905 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379621167 443057 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, I can't really try them right now, as I'm at work. < 1379621190 862869 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, the PDF is part of my work. it's a periodic pause.) < 1379621195 460431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK, try later perhaps, or someone try < 1379621213 654673 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files are there, tempting me with their sexy lo-res bits. < 1379621635 883346 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379621824 79812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pixellization fetish < 1379621913 910305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm a japanophile. what else did you expect? < 1379621942 430696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So can you play Japanese mahjong then? < 1379621954 362543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat japan >> boily < 1379621961 200943 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He plays Shogi, so yes? < 1379621965 25785 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ish? < 1379621966 956704 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :45-lines ocaml splinter interpreter working < 1379621986 370996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm in a japanese mahjong club. we play every two Sundays. < 1379621994 250347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do androids dream of the fisherman's wife < 1379621995 973344 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379622020 945720 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :task for next week: splinter to bf-pda < 1379622030 126454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: come play mahjong with us :D < 1379622044 137595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you play Washizu mahjong? < 1379622070 782540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What rule variants do you use when playing mahjong? < 1379622079 218769 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1379622080 647936 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379622089 239648 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not-Solitaire Mahjong < 1379622102 697461 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please forgive my mindblank >_> < 1379622126 95792 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I played classic chinese at first, but now I exclusively play riichi. some members play hong kong (I should learn the rules some time). < 1379622156 961304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: concerning variations in a single style, we don't apply kuitan nashi, we use kuikae, and sometimes play with yakitori. we never use uma, though. < 1379622158 277718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379622170 828178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: We never even met yet. Mahjong might be a little too... forward? < 1379622186 601196 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come by my apartment on Saturday and we'll talk about it < 1379622190 846276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: enwéye don, viens faire un tour! on mord pas! (la plupart du temps) < 1379622214 715558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like kuitan nashi either; I play kuitan ari, but don't use yakitori < 1379622241 372454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kuitan nashi is for... uhm... Roujo, how would you translate «moumoune» in English? < 1379622244 250695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't yakitori a way of cooking chicken < 1379622251 463556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: also. < 1379622267 415337 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Chicken" < 1379622268 705704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, but in mahjong it is penalty for someone who never wins a single hand during the game < 1379622272 162565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yakitori is rough on the nerves. it makes the game very stressful. < 1379622305 593220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uhm, if I may correct you, yakitori is a game of chicken where you have to declare riichi at least once during East and South. < 1379622332 706964 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and if all four players have called riichi, it resets) < 1379622343 455268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: thanks. < 1379622348 837725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That is a different kind of yakitori game then < 1379622360 505490 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: let me check, just to be sure... < 1379622364 603063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What happen in case of no-ten riichi? < 1379622401 183453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made up a few variants, though, even. One is that menzenchintsumo counts 1 han toward the requirement for winning but it doesn't score 1 han; another is that ippatsu doesn't count for self-drawn. < 1379622410 956267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ah. wikipédia points to your yakitori. < 1379622444 414387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in no-ten riichi, you hope somebody else wins. if you get to an exhaustive hand, you *have* to show your hand, and then it's chombo. < 1379622487 910261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know it is chombo, but does it cancel the yakitori counter in your kind of yakitori game when that happens? < 1379622504 113988 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell if you guys are pulling a Mornington Crescent or not < 1379622515 206247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: menzen tsumo is just like any other yaku. ippatsu on a tsumo is just dramatic and fun :D (did it last sunday. it was completely undeserved, made me score a haneman as oya. it was grandiose!) < 1379622530 866523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: me either < 1379622535 811001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: eeeeeeeeeh... we never had that scenario happen. < 1379622546 194968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that is a perfect way to describe the sense of confusion < 1379622547 148378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: honestly, everything you see here is real mahjong. < 1379622556 193113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you ever play Mornington Crescent? < 1379622575 731100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, but I do have a map of the London Underground. < 1379622576 159980 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play Berri-UQAM with my SO, if that counts < 1379622593 712085 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll have to ask our expert player next time. that point is very interesting. < 1379622598 301605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: ha ha ha! < 1379622641 308887 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fun! < 1379622654 616292 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with the Special AMT Extension rules < 1379622752 956987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my favourite yaku combo is the Infamous Men Tan Pin (tsumo, tan'yao, pinfu), nicknamed the «Anyway en tout cas bin là» here (quote mash-up from a bad movie). < 1379622791 295040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: plug in a riichi, pile up the dora, and get a ludicrous amount of points from your disgruntled opponents. < 1379622847 567721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: is the Montmorency/Cartier transition valid, or do you stop at Concorde when doing a double-lateral? < 1379622870 698590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other things I eliminate are the "all green", and the bonuses for first-turn stuff. I also allow players to declare riichi even if your score is negative. < 1379622915 333083 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379622947 110386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I can't tell if you guys are pulling a Mornington Crescent or not <-- zzo38 is the last person in the channel i'd suspect of doing that. < 1379622954 211863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: all green is epic. a girl did that with suankō during a tournament, while oya. 96000 points. < 1379622977 980773 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also, when a player is bankrupt, it ends the game. if you don't have at least a thousand left, no riichi. < 1379623001 543602 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: my bro actively tries to achieve tenhō. hasn't worked yet :P < 1379623006 694789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You are playing dobon, then. < 1379623018 566749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And how can you actively try to achieve tenhou? < 1379623025 937509 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yup. I did that last Sunday on a chombo :D < 1379623037 878648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was furiten, and called ron.) < 1379623046 296873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ask Pouti. < 1379623065 770351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: comment t'avais fait la dernière fois pour réussir à faire que le Pouti s'en vienne sur le channel? < 1379623106 405510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just play that when calling ron when furiten or otherwise an invalid win, you have to expose your tiles but then you can put them back up and the game continues normally. If you make incorrect calls too often then you may be disqualified (except for no-ten riichi) < 1379623196 839762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in games between regular members, it's chombo, and that's it. it seems harsh at first, but nobody really minds. < 1379623208 581143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when playing with my friends from Québec City, it's much more lenient. < 1379623219 35405 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and when alcohol is involved, screw penalties.) < 1379623293 57294 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To simplify it a bit, I also ignore the fu, and just treat it as always 25 fu, so that there is no rounding (some players use 30 fu, but this results in rounding); this also results pinfu slightly different, more like the "All Chow Game" in the Singapore game < 1379623333 568045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me the rounding is considered a bit unfair. < 1379623342 858286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Je lui ai demandé de se pointer sur FB? =P < 1379623369 145528 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, yeah, Montmorency/Cartier is alright, it's just... weird. I've never seen it work. >_> < 1379623375 166600 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most common hands lie on the 30 fu line, so you get to know the points by heart. otherwise, it's 40 fu. very rarely you get an interesting hand at 50. < 1379623381 839038 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: logically. < 1379623388 979833 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it's legal < 1379623471 934747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it works in weird tournament matches between 3 players, but only if the Drapeau handicap is applied to an out-of-town visitor. I think they changed the limits to Longueuil in 2006 for that, otherwise there were too many corner cases left. < 1379623478 349922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, OK, but I do use many variations of the rules, like I have said; it is the game I prefer anyways < 1379623496 562292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you plan to visit Montréal in the foreseeable future? < 1379623516 832384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, I currently have no such plan. < 1379623528 922929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: :( < 1379623591 560856 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means I'll have to cross the Great Puddle some day if I want to match you. < 1379623633 7273 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will go over there in some day, but I don't expect so. < 1379623701 215755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could meet in the middle. < 1379623706 481899 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Ah, I wouldn't know. My SO is the only one I play with =/ < 1379623735 805074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still prefer the Japanese game over the other mahjong games, though! < 1379623740 582318 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379623746 977872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Do you sometimes play Washizu mahjong? < 1379623770 136177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no. I am subject to vasovagal responses when my blood is involved. < 1379623789 21378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can play without your blood if you want to, as long as you have some way to keep track of hit points < 1379623848 269210 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I have a friend like that. < 1379623855 460882 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, blood in general, really < 1379623861 654614 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's hemophobic < 1379623880 503338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:48:21] we could meet in the middle. < 1379623882 7574 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good plan < 1379623885 396107 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me how that goes < 1379623893 855477 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other's people blood I have no problem with. I just really prefer that mine stays inside my body, thank you very much. < 1379623898 849739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "Akagi DS" game includes a mode for Washizu mahjong and I play that game. < 1379623913 44287 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there is mahjong yet on the Ouya... < 1379623996 83905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are allowed to look at your partner's tiles, and communication with them freely, and oka and uma does count. < 1379624017 558614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there was that collecte organised by héma-québec at the cégep one time. I went by and was like: “Hey, I should try that. I got two hours to kill”. bad idea. < 1379624020 682942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The uma really does add another aspect to Washizu mahjong.) < 1379624036 79092 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did you die? D: < 1379624048 793633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: it felt like dying, but I don't think so. < 1379624095 708947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I was fine up to the point where I was pierced and plugged to the machine. a few seconds later, reboot. < 1379624112 179157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually the leaders are in first and second place, but I have once won with Washizu in last place, giving me a lot of uma bonus. < 1379624128 447002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's the Great Puddle? < 1379624129 543908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wake up shaking, shivering, sweating, your hands are prickly, you are hungry, you are nauseous, you want to pee... < 1379624135 385616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the Atlantic Ocean. < 1379624142 263584 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the Authentic Ocean < 1379624155 682912 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uma is nasty and perverse :p < 1379624195 506635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: In an ordinary game with four players playing by themself, yes, but in Washizu mahjong with the team format it uses, I like it. < 1379624257 759961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: also, my blood pressure was unstable, and my heart was beating some eldritch morse message. < 1379624273 793887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think you will find that zzo38s in the mirror are closer than they appear. < 1379624290 93047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you should know that already, having read the quotes < 1379624303 883245 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sounds like a party to me < 1379624316 51285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Are you good at morse code? < 1379624328 320850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. I just assume that people are in Hexham by default, and forgot that zzo38 is from BC. < 1379624336 906723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sorry about that. < 1379624339 348565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good default. < 1379624344 687772 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: uhm, somewhat. < 1379624406 618427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: maybe I should become a Super Serial Killer, with my secret weakness being my own blood. < 1379624464 635317 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: zzo38's user page on Wikipedia would tell you that much < 1379624464 780527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... .- ... - ..- .-. .... .- ... - ..- .-. .... .- ... - ..- .-. < 1379624467 344848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And much, much more < 1379624468 343480 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have no powers while you're alive? < 1379624472 143128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that sounds sweet < 1379624514 193884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Akagi DS game, after each hanchan, oka and uma are counted, and then you compare the final scores of the leader of both teams; however has less, loses however many hit-points is the differences. < 1379624517 102685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nice try :p < 1379624536 900571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yowch. < 1379624565 94549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The scores of the supporters are not used, except to calculate oka and uma.) < 1379624630 511202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any time during the game that one leader pays the other, the payer also loses that number of hit-points, too. < 1379624679 120497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... . -..- - ..- .-. < 1379624686 793932 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1379624723 295317 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Winning off of the last card seems to be much more common in Washizu mahjong, than in the ordinary game. < 1379624787 739060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what kind of map of the Underground do you have, and what do you use it for? < 1379624823 247986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Currently, I do not use it for anything. Someone who was there had it when coming back to Canada, and since he didn't need it anymore he gave it to me. < 1379624870 79916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can't remember any occurence of haitei happening in any game I played. < 1379624908 295036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Except in Washizu mahjong, it hasn't happened to me either. < 1379625035 325995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1379625058 631384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a nice map, don't you think < 1379625072 396721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes. < 1379625091 364646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad the Circle line isn't a circle anymore :( < 1379625145 879610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it stops at Edgware Road twice, which is confusing < 1379625168 104214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two stations named Edgware Road and the Circle Line stops at one of them twice and the other not at all < 1379625194 496023 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're getting the "drop [as in, raindrop] line", it has this shape: http://portal.liikennevirasto.fi/portal/page/portal/f/hankkeet/suunnitteilla/pisara/pisara_kartta_0.jpg < 1379625211 989086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, the NYC subway system has like 50 station names that are reused < 1379625228 926110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: heh < 1379625273 583360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's just called "Helsinki City Rail Loop" in English, but the Finnish name refers to a teardrop shape. < 1379625282 5919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ippatsu is usually played to not count toward the han requirement to win (in Akagi DS it is like this); I prefer that it does count, unless the discarder is on the same team in which case it still scores but doesn't count toward requirement. < 1379625309 322621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah neat < 1379625371 332338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :running the commuter trains in a loop through the city center, to free up capacity at the main terminal for long distance trains < 1379625383 621972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ippatsu depends on a riichi anyway. in washizu you can ippatsu without that? < 1379625449 960555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, I mean when you need 2 han to win if the oya wins five times < 1379625465 339328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there should be a high speed rail tunnel to Tallinn, don't you think < 1379625514 73936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh. right. good catch, here. < 1379625688 54888 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote bathroom interior < 1379625689 868896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :887) GreyKnight: for instance, you can form a poset category from a bunch of tiles oh, that's why somebody was conflating category theory with bathroom interior design the other day :-D < 1379625711 776600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think Wang Tiles would look good in a bathroom < 1379625719 585948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I do think that. (I also think people have made plans for it, but that's about all.) < 1379625887 972517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: some day, we'll have a nice train from Québec City up to Windsor... < 1379625923 210336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.euregio-heltal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hel-Tal-rail-connection-prefeasibility-study_ETI-ASIC_110708.doc-NeoOffice-Writer.pdf and so on. < 1379626044 511752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: *sound of a turtle flying in a storm* < 1379626049 705626 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379626149 18783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boat is pretty nice though < 1379626153 788209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly it might matter more for freight < 1379626176 626621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also the general "there should be more trains" principle. < 1379626181 759028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379626190 110845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If it's empty, fill it with trains," as the saying goes. < 1379626212 786803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wife's brother 3D-printed a train at the library the other day. < 1379626215 422829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that document doesn't say much about the gauge issue < 1379626223 974536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! they have 3D printers at the library? < 1379626249 573260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in any sort of generally-available-in-many-places way, just in the one at Tapiola and perhaps a couple of other places. < 1379626257 703084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379626265 410598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have one at work, but I haven't used it yet < 1379626292 317930 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1379626302 36698 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooo < 1379626306 536440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also costs zero moneys at Tapiola, I believe. < 1379626316 850662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're so slow the material costs aren't that high. :p < 1379626335 989796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379626339 948802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rail Baltica will be standard gauge < 1379626351 348235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will / would < 1379626371 732473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a MiniFactory v2.0 -- http://www.minifactory.fi/en/ -- that's some sort of Finnish product.) < 1379626428 577752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379626448 74451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is briefly confused by a country labeled "Somija" on a map of the Baltic region
< 1379626526 734669 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379626575 615248 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the "Glass Palace" (there's not all that much glass in it, but that's what it's called) right in the city centre has this placed called "meeting place" administered by the Helsinki regional library system, that's the other place they've got 3D printers (another miniFactory and an Ultimaker) in. Seems that a single 3D "printout" costs 0.40 EUR -- the same as a regular paper printout -- there. < 1379626606 284219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, the machines at Tapiola are rather regularly broken. 3D printing doesn't quite seem to have matured all the way yet. < 1379626644 397568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(On the other hand, regular printers still paper jam all the time too, so... But it's usually less of a mess to unjam.) < 1379626647 227999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1379626659 287548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how often the really expensive professional grade printers break < 1379626662 381067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably still a fair bit < 1379626670 79981 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379627046 945276 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379628469 814345 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379628629 747608 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379629539 700836 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379629560 698421 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379629710 622111 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379629863 241682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PART :#esoteric < 1379630796 841153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN, uh, REDDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC < 1379630843 776333 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379630845 383539 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :searches "/F/", finds no hits < 1379630853 706944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379630861 715959 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379630903 881168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/F/? < 1379630915 652767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379630932 577203 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, people are identifying themselves with 22/M/Canada and so on < 1379630968 983174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfw? < 1379630970 388923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379630972 594416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379630986 539082 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDC stands for 'everyday carry' < 1379630997 413925 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :23/m/mo, asl? < 1379631010 347921 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously most of them carry knives < 1379631043 960604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, this is distinct from the porn reddit convention of putting [m] or [f] etc in the title < 1379631051 751110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... not like I would have any way of knowing about that < 1379631066 909702 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an F on the second page! she does not carry a knife < 1379631110 905123 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have every confidence that kmc does not know about porn. < 1379631124 387100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porn < 1379631126 588998 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379631127 23596 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1379631127 186136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         o/`¯º < 1379631172 483896 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? porn e2 to e4 < 1379631174 689457 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn e2 to e4? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379631175 185351 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    | < 1379631175 350124 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                  º¯`\o < 1379631177 742439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn porn e2 to e4 < 1379631182 487294 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1379631204 342179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/kEwEVfE.jpg < 1379631226 608737 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, redditor < 1379631237 826046 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only leave the house with... god that is one stubby revolver < 1379631251 81537 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you supposed to like punch people with it < 1379631262 486956 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked the comments; the people asking "why the fuck do you need four knives, a gun and two dozen bullets" are all downvoted < 1379631268 324756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Akagi did once make a haitei on purpose (in a game that isn't Washizu mahjong, and isn't teams), and being the only yaku. < 1379631281 33153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, you use it to hammer the knives in < 1379631298 946554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: haha wow, link to the comments? < 1379631301 581717 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run out of ammo with your first knife you have to use the second < 1379631303 549157 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flawless plan < 1379631307 722417 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mji11/21m_microholic/ < 1379631324 230849 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the bullets on the knifes then the knifes in the gun < 1379631356 678649 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :put the knives on the bullets and shoot knives < 1379631366 217364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not trying to hate but what is your purpose for each knife? Is one for cutting tape/boxes, another for defense? How do you carry them (pockets using clip, sheath on belt, in a backpack)?" "I use any of em for the job at hand" < 1379631376 996132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure this guy is a professional killer. < 1379631390 417214 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah he uses hunt and peck typing but REALLY hunts < 1379631392 709788 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well suppose he's cutting something and one of the knives gets stuck < 1379631430 557304 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :catastrophic < 1379631438 20753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I like options and having several knives gives me options." < 1379631450 154550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think he could sound more ominous if he tried < 1379631461 78663 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :several knife related options < 1379631466 639401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An don't get into the whole switchblades are illegal thing. They aren't where I live and if they were I honestly don't care." < 1379631481 779852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your average idiot just shrugs at this point and, at best, goes home to get another knife and gets shanked along the way after he uses all his bullets on the thirty-odd muggers coming at him < 1379631517 342424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is scary < 1379631528 433972 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow the FAQ only has one question and the question is "Why are you carrying a gun/knife/etc?" < 1379631545 642044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want more than five shots available to me." < 1379631642 722404 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: someone who needs lots of shots, maybe it's a bartender? < 1379631669 307476 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just shoots all his patrons < 1379631689 158839 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"two shots and four knives, please" < 1379631693 37297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 years later "oh shit was THAT what they were asking for?" < 1379631738 715465 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And the reason I don't always carry te glock is because I'm a smaller guy and the glock is a little big." < 1379631764 700094 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does he carry both guns when he feels like having it along or does he at least leave the revolver behind < 1379631775 383728 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably both, more options? < 1379631795 547556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He should get a gun that shoots smaller guns. < 1379631820 23809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a portable 3d printer loaded with gun templates < 1379631836 973593 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Security in this office park is a joke. Last year, I came to work with my spud gun in a duffel bag. I sat at my desk all day, with a rifle that shoots potatoes at 60 pounds per square inch. Can you imagine if I was deranged?" < 1379631885 578087 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to google to make sure that wasn't a serious gun control analogy < 1379632024 154012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some nut with a gun complaining about nuts with guns getting into his office? < 1379632040 948378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :potatoes, not nuts < 1379632230 929632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha wow this was the second submission after: http://i.imgur.com/aHZklek.jpg < 1379632280 636068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if i'm going to carry things they'd better either be for killing people, or finding more people to kill" < 1379632522 467343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that knife connected with some string to another knife? < 1379632552 418298 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you need a lot of guns to kill people? Isn't one sufficient? < 1379632560 553217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379632561 944992 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1379632563 321760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need to find people to kill anyways? < 1379632590 505710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second knife is there to cut the first knife free from it < 1379632620 919034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking knife-chucks. < 1379632677 996267 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can garotte an unaware mugger whilst also stabbing him in two different places < 1379632883 686814 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mjrh6/remember_that_kickstarter_for_pens_that_was/ < 1379632891 959327 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god is this one of those pens we were mocking < 1379632957 400263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does look like a vibrator < 1379632989 255018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It feels... just so good, you guys." < 1379632991 266971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing that it isn't actually one, really < 1379632993 35978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it does. < 1379633038 95550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It feels "airtight" and "well-machined" too, if you catch my drift. < 1379633040 51920 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't believe they don't realise they're not even paying for a pen, they're paying for an aluminium cylinder with a hole in one end < 1379633064 876898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: could be trouble < 1379633379 642688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/1mfa5p/help_me_figure_out_how_to_carry_some_combination/ < 1379633409 308501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can think of one big redundancy you could cut back on < 1379633494 894870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379633527 526285 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"get rid of the car and phone and you can pack two or three more knives in your pockets" < 1379633550 198742 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379633556 850012 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and get a combination knife/lighter < 1379633941 198490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379634085 890478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut a hole in some suitable part of your flesh, put a knife in it < 1379634137 103251 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some fucker tries to stab you? they have simply upped your knife count < 1379634165 243286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lifehack < 1379634815 255400 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379634973 378481 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/stop-using-nsa-influence-code-in-our-product-rsa-tells-customers/ o_O < 1379634980 988003 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RSA was using DUAL_EC_DBRG @_@ < 1379635017 27504 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, is "everyone using dual_ec_dbrg" going to turn out to match "list of companies that were ordered around by the NSA" -_- < 1379635071 962684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna hear a joke? < 1379635074 791818 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :america < 1379635154 34445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought rsa was just the algorithm < 1379635186 359686 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what's "rsa" mean here < 1379635218 341194 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I meant the company ^^; < 1379635221 927484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that makes the keyfobs and stuff < 1379635223 933710 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, a company. Founded by the people in RSA. < 1379635269 619470 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the deliberately crippled pseudo random number generator (PRNG), which is so weak that it undermines the security of most or all cryptography systems that use it" wow, things have escalated. < 1379635286 124229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you saw that NIST also disowned it, right? < 1379635296 651079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379635303 767136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379635306 910967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"McAfee representatives issued a statement that confirmed the McAfee Firewall Enterprise Control Center 5.3.1 supported the Dual_EC_DRBG, but only when deployed in federal government or government contractor customer environments, where this FIPS certification has recommended it" bahahaha < 1379635313 571551 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1379635318 239804 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job nsa, you got YOUR OWN FUCKING GOVERNMENT to use your FUCKING BROKEN hack < 1379635321 208559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks douchebags < 1379635328 856945 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the NSA wanted to spy on other parts of the government? < 1379635331 304384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/the-many-flaws-of-dualecdrbg.html is a really great detailed writeup < 1379635333 84595 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, like, that's a thing spy agencies do, right < 1379635341 475886 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they spy on each other < 1379635345 892307 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this big incestuous family thing < 1379635349 192480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but they're < 1379635350 115465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah intelligence agencies tend to become autonomous terrorist cells rather than anything that's accountable to either government or citizens < 1379635353 818753 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric : supposed to spy on other ones! < 1379635357 447716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... yeah what kmc said. < 1379635382 901954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean even disregarding that, crippling government security is kind of the opposite of even the nsa's supposed mission to do literally the exact opposite of that. < 1379635389 215109 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stratfor handbook has an entry on the nsa < 1379635399 132081 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah? what's it say < 1379635416 368058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they're completely out of control, and so compartmentalised that nobody actually knows what anyone else is doing" < 1379635424 27421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1379635444 418187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least they are just breaking crypto and not kidnapping people to give them LSD just to see what happens < 1379635457 147269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The length of time that Dual_EC_DRBG takes can be seen as a virtue: it also slows down an attacker trying to guess the seed" lol < 1379635484 340901 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it only compromises the government's security if you're the NSA though? at least in theory < 1379635503 221044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for the NSA it's just plain a good thing if they get anyone at all to use it ever < 1379635503 366384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, a very stupid theory that goes against every cryptographic practice. < 1379635510 483089 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, i mean, is what they were thinking, i'm sure. < 1379635523 344046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. what i'm saying is they're incompetent. < 1379635542 596734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they're actually turning out to be kind of disturbingly competent < 1379635569 309424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, doesn't really matter if your compromised rng is obviously shitty if you can pressure people who don't understand that into using it < 1379635581 521816 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the CIA. They're disturbingly competent at some things (e.g. kidnapping) and worse at others (e.g. not making half the world hate the united states) < 1379635611 602179 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway. Anyone here used davfs2? < 1379635613 642894 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, the thing is that even the NSA probably doesn't want the rest of the world to be able to break the US government's encryption. just them. < 1379635639 657600 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a point < 1379635682 172083 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, half the mission of the NSA is making it so that US communications can't be cracked. < 1379635684 945200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean intelligence agencies seem to have this thing where they're pretty great at the microscale of their job but then use it to just fuck everything over constantly. < 1379635715 802952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, the CIA ran the opium trade in the Pacific for a while. I'm sure they did it very well! But the problem with that is that they ran an opium trade < 1379635730 548848 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that a lack of oversight is bad. < 1379635736 765495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, this just really, really irritates me. < 1379635753 712040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the CIA just likes having fun. < 1379635771 45551 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: And money. < 1379635776 651405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, hey we should go install a new government in some random country today! hey we should try out this whole drug trade thing! life's an adventure! < 1379635779 703543 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opium trading is a great source of income. < 1379635787 952780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :worked for the british < 1379635866 354451 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just cause 2 is actually a documentary < 1379635872 892822 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :laughing @ idea of cheery cia agent saying "life's an adventure!" to a bunch of filipino muslims he's torturing < 1379636512 530049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the vibe I'm going for, yeah < 1379636673 557174 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard a story that the cia faked a vampire attack in mindanao once, so, that works < 1379636791 146627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :black comedy set in the CIA in the 60s < 1379636792 182732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1379636813 617780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like it would come out a lot like Dr. Strangelove < 1379636826 300855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1379637010 867564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I've gone like seven years wanting to see Dr. Strangelove without actually doing it. I'm great. I'm the best < 1379637187 793574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1379637218 14084 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it < 1379637253 669527 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, I never thought of that before < 1379637308 357749 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :davfs2 is great < 1379637321 443641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls tells me what are the files are but then because of the fucked configuration i can't access them < 1379637339 984165 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so cp, which just uses usual cp instead of dav's copy, can't do shit even though i can over dav < 1379637414 44776 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it will probably actually be great once the IT nerds unfuck themselves) < 1379637644 801080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrds < 1379638023 18141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Dungeons&Dragons game, I sometimes teleport without knowing where I am going, and ending up frightening the people who are in there, if any. (In ifMUD, I have set a olounge teleport message to "suddenly appears in the middle of the room in an instant, frightening (or almost frightening) a few people..." partially for that reason.) < 1379638055 707557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this kind of messages? < 1379638197 778470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/020312/nsa-620x317-620x317.jpg?hash=MGx2L2ZlZT&upscale=1 < 1379638201 554497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much car park... < 1379638280 831597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric : that sounds like it would come out a lot like Dr. Strangelove < 1379638303 78546 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, sounds more like 4 lions or the coen brothers < 1379638402 766753 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you play the Dungeons&Dragons game, say, do you do things like this too? < 1379639040 31763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379639383 472217 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plomlwopruvnrwbg QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379639516 461991 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379639545 810195 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379639568 276796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379640626 182333 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379640710 343478 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379640711 40050 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379640855 240182 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed JOIN :#esoteric < 1379645956 948101 :mnoqy!~okay@98.108.206.66 QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379646115 315282 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379650244 4647 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379653365 722722 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-73-144.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379653403 724390 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379655868 756717 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1379657037 616103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379657040 763749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379658310 111932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have had an opportunity to read your article [REDACTED] on [REDACTED]. Through your works, I know you are an expert in this field." Yeah, I'm sure you've read it and are not just automatically spamming all authors for articles for your journal named almost exactly like a well-known existing journal. < 1379658325 438746 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379658451 540998 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you want to write for Naturer? < 1379658480 662663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please look at CGA Collection this time < 1379658807 260270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379662575 859992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379664380 207993 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379664437 789574 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1379666720 147206 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379667425 356538 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379667482 311561 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379667569 900786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379667656 56600 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wish me out-of-context luck! < 1379667660 735756 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1379667853 315987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good oocluck, then. < 1379668506 176354 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379669575 231035 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379672719 225383 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379674274 108287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379674986 145160 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379675358 178780 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379676075 981759 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379676622 92221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/gDce nice memory use numbers in 'top' here. < 1379676927 758123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379676972 40881 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-73-144.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1379676980 64481 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-73-144.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379676980 209705 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379677800 783633 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, should I learn Rust? < 1379677857 713903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm not kmc, but I think you should learn Rust < 1379678071 526107 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, should I learn Rust over learning, say C++? < 1379678112 40462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: C++ is as of 2013 more practically useful; I'm hoping Rust overtakes it, although sadly it probably won't < 1379678117 345181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is a much better language, though, IMO < 1379678124 360495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you like sheer eso craziness < 1379678129 632677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then C++ is pretty good < 1379678159 888052 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: I added a couple of small C++ files to a mostly-C project recently, because I needed to create a file that could produce side effects upon being linked into a project < 1379678166 513623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without causing it to fail to compile if it wasn't < 1379678177 226883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can't be done in portable C, but it can be done in portable C++ < 1379678185 870584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact a bunch of systems have complex linker support just to get that to work < 1379678266 524228 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that seems... < 1379678269 887069 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a weird thing to do < 1379678300 59045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well you know how the Linux kernel has modules that can be compiled in and can also be dynamically loaded, depending on configuration? < 1379678304 864068 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1379678316 696712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going for something like that, except that the core file would know which files were compiled in without anyone having to tell it < 1379678333 762513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it would know whether it needed to try to dynamically load them or not if someone requested them < 1379678334 838245 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that much about the linux kernel < 1379678364 156182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1379678375 944680 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(should probably learn at some point) < 1379678378 771706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to know anything about internals to know that, just to have configured it at least once < 1379678386 293815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess people don't configure the kernel very often < 1379678503 592241 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to get some lunch now < 1379679125 997240 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's the point of configuring the kernel? When do you need to do it? < 1379679143 267120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: when you're compiling it in anything other than a stock configuration < 1379679158 684385 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you want to do that? < 1379679159 500436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my case, it was for an embedded system < 1379679164 143364 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay < 1379679174 441925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needed to turn off as many features as we could get away with to save disk space < 1379679200 645344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the sysadmins here had to reconfigure the kernel of a VM for me so that a program I wrote that required specific kernel support would run < 1379679214 311837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the flags to prctl) < 1379679218 616267 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I guess I just never used anything specific enough to have to do that =) < 1379679290 336938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was on by default in the kernel my laptop uses < 1379679299 457133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently not in the configuration used by the desktops and servers here < 1379679309 487112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should always configure your kernel unusually to keep the NSA off balance. also, have this nice tin(*) hat. (*) _genuine_ tin, not that aluminium thing that _strengthens_ the mind control rays instead. < 1379679376 54068 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use lead instead < 1379679384 639038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there was that huge row from people who didn't understand the way the Linux kernel implemented randomness < 1379679397 350040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :telling it to stop XORing rdrand() results with its true-random numbers to make them randomer < 1379679405 608005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: that only helps against the cancer-producing rays. < 1379679415 610757 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You haven't met my mother < 1379679431 354671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be true. < 1379679488 179758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think i saw a post where linus insulted them recently. < 1379679500 121093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379679515 803640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it wasn't so much typical linus insults < 1379679523 596340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :much too mild. < 1379679527 322684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as "go read the kernel source, then tell me if your request makes any sense" < 1379679637 928366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/FjXH <- this software does not fill me with confidence. < 1379679684 390500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those warnings are the same thing, though < 1379679701 648612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming 64 bit, it'll work fine if they're storing integers in pointers < 1379679703 900277 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds nice. Pointers as ints are always nice. < 1379679708 144959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not if they're storing pointers in integers < 1379679713 441087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both situations would cause that warning < 1379679733 439037 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, casting an int as a pointer causes the "pointer-to-int" warning? < 1379679749 180838 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound intuitive < 1379679765 548790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, if you've just read about how applying the NSA PRNG to "improve" true random output ruins it, you'd be naturally suspicious of other ways of "improving" random numbers, too. < 1379679766 856713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to convert both ways in both scenarios, generally. < 1379679786 864776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the most part those warnings are of the if (debug) printf ("...@%x...", (int)thisisapointer); variety, which is clearly wrong but does not really matter. < 1379679848 728402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there is one case of if (unsignedcharvalue = (unsigned char)NULL) (except obscured by typedefs) which is also completely wrong if NULL is defined as "(void *)0", but does not matter either. < 1379679894 591008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, all the others than that one seem to be debug printouts. < 1379679901 726032 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whoever wrote this clearly has not heard of %p.) < 1379679935 719857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a style guide somewhere saying not to use %p ever < 1379679937 978578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember why < 1379679967 49472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, (unsigned char)NULL, not (unsigned char *)NULL ? < 1379679980 899593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, well, the other side is an unsigned char (not a pointer to it) too. < 1379679993 937661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's looking for the terminating '\0' of a string, as far as I can tell. < 1379680005 734087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering, is it ever possible for (unsigned char)NULL to not be 0? < 1379680008 490672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1379680019 677032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is yes, but zero constants work weirdly when it comes to pointers < 1379680029 302010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. (void*)(float)0 is always NULL < 1379680041 650556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, (void*)(int)(float)0 < 1379680060 495883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1379680088 786298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you _sure_ of that. < 1379680095 272566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think that's true. < 1379680108 328424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is true that (void*)(int)0.0f is always NULL, however. < 1379680121 723346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1379680136 166000 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related: http://ewontfix.com/11/ < 1379680143 512456 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I can't remember the exact rules, but they're stupid < 1379680155 182701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about (void*)(NULL - NULL)? < 1379680188 608372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "Integer constant expressions" are allowed to include "floating constants that are the immediate operands of casts", but any cast operators "shall only convert arithmetic types to integer types", which would outlaw the (float) cast. < 1379680209 605682 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And of course a null pointer expression needs an integer constant expression with a value of 0.) < 1379680216 336893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, ridiculous :) < 1379680245 341043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think (void *)(NULL - NULL) is always correct, if the definition of NULL includes the (legal) cast to (void *). < 1379680294 200533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is pointer subtraction defined if the pointers are NULL < 1379680296 541556 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, rust is still making < 1379680313 935653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was wondering that myself < 1379680320 312677 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously undefined if exactly one is NULL < 1379680333 893409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not pointing to the same array, because there is no array. < 1379680340 252133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but both being NULL is the sort of situation you don't lean the rules for because it's stupid to do it < 1379680360 480144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both pointing one past the end of (void[0])NULL :P < 1379680385 887890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no [0]. < 1379680400 760000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Both shall point to elements of the same array object" is all it says. < 1379680407 842740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing it's not right. < 1379680433 168907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Anyway*, regarding the original topic, I don't think "(int)(void *)0" has any particular guarantees that would require it to be 0. < 1379680440 200879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if I have a pointer to something that isn't an array < 1379680444 536024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't subtract that pointer from itself? < 1379680476 652762 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's bootstrapping now < 1379680480 626898 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am scared < 1379680492 700591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you have a valid pointer to something that isn't an array? (There's a rule that says approximately that everything can be treated as one-element arrays.) < 1379680492 863160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this could easily be achieved via, say, taking the address of a stack element) < 1379680503 872941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, right < 1379680642 623473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For the purposes of these operators, a pointer to an object that is not an element of an array behaves the same as a pointer to the first element of an array of length one with the type of the object as its element type." < 1379680650 736795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These operators" being + and -. < 1379680723 835053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas NULL doesn't count because it doesn't necessarily point to anything? < 1379680734 270874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It explicitly does not point to any object, I think. < 1379680818 205431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's possible for it to point to something < 1379680830 3269 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it defined somewhere? I keep getting errors saying that NULL doesn't exist >_> < 1379680852 700652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything in the standard to prevent NULL being somewhere on the stack? (it can't be on the heap, unless it's in the middle of an object, because free ignores it) < 1379680857 989984 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: stdlib.h < 1379680863 8942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: It's defined in many headers, but is the standard location. < 1379680873 979433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :, and others define it too. < 1379680891 570097 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't quite parse "While using rustc directly to generate your executables, and then running them manually is a perfectly valid way to test your code, for smaller projects, prototypes, or if you're a beginner, it might be more convenient to use the rust tool." < 1379680898 228749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1379680929 334284 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it saying that compiling then running is better if I'm a beginner, or is it saying that using the rust tool is better if I'm a beginner? < 1379680943 311504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyhow, a null pointer is "guaranteed to compare unequal to a pointer to any object or function", which would be a contradiction if it actually pointed to an object, because it would then compare equal to any pointer to that object. < 1379680959 191020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379680986 873219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can have a "char *" at any individual byte of an object, so I think you can't even hide it in the middle of an object. < 1379680987 132507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's saying that if you're starting out, rust is probably easier to use, but rustc is perfectly acceptable < 1379680997 616504 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1379681001 469970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it points halfway through a byte? < 1379681011 606904 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fizzie: Thanks, that explains it =P < 1379681020 294719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think this is actually legal in C, although not massively useful) < 1379681022 562475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any reason why it's not a keyword? =P < 1379681049 695567 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 is a keyword :-P < 1379681075 382937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not technically, I don't think. (Keywords are identifiers.) < 1379681084 328453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1379681085 853843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++11 has a 'nullptr' keyword for a null pointer, I think. < 1379681086 21834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but close enough < 1379681094 149171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I was thinking about that < 1379681099 850130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure if it's a keyword or just a templtae < 1379681101 496863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*template < 1379681140 579834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I want to get the C++11 specification to find out, but I think it's a keyword. < 1379681148 317084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'true' and 'false' are keywords there too. < 1379681194 879404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope they were defined as 0 and 1 respectively, just to annoy people < 1379681203 72606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although they probably weren't < 1379681264 538525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : defines three macros: true, false, and file_no.. I mean, __bool_true_and_false_are_defined. < 1379681287 609803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and "bool" as a macro that expands to "_Bool", forgot that. < 1379681322 725948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, something that came up in discussion with the people here this morning: strictly typed LaTeX < 1379681334 409681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically the idea is that it typechecks your math in order to catch typos < 1379681468 474673 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379681631 746729 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1379681729 634142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't __bool_true_and_false_are_defined sort of redundant with true :P < 1379681751 629642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it never hurts to be explicit. < 1379681809 957188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good luck with typechecking _real_ math. < 1379681837 532058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'd work on category theory < 1379681868 197892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :real math makes C++ overloading look sane, you know. < 1379681904 608752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess you can use it to check whether they're defined in the standard way, rather than in some custom way. < 1379682037 354314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379682534 709125 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379682692 527545 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohayoily < 1379682726 312634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujohayō. < 1379682822 128772 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379683117 139462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379683185 962057 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get rust-mode working in emacs... < 1379683218 743519 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried adding a mist of water and letting it sit there for a couple of years? < 1379683235 341005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you turn it off and on again? < 1379683334 591394 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the cable connected? < 1379683453 3609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try pushing Ctrl-Apple-Escape-Meta-Alt-Start-Alt Gr-R ? < 1379683756 263177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you forgot Hyper. < 1379683762 514396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379683903 766751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, all that'll do will bring up the Tetris-Mayan-Calendar-Half-Debug-Mode, but only if he has the scratchpad open. < 1379684021 432428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not know the mayans had a tetris calendar. < 1379684033 127916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever guys < 1379684191 21648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly wonders if anyone has tried to adapt a piano keyboard for non-music use
< 1379684230 944447 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1379684231 592454 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1379684235 308799 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried. Once. < 1379684244 192707 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379684251 256824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5928061/using-a-piano-keyboard-as-a-computer-keyboard < 1379684287 731842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379684295 277684 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using a piano keyboard as a computer keyboard sounds like a profoundly bad idea. < 1379684305 267827 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using something similar to a computer keyboard as a piano keyboard is less ridiculous. < 1379684309 504978 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used a DDR pad to play Goldeneye < 1379684312 342040 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But with velocity sensitivity) < 1379684312 342129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah < 1379684321 532681 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There really is no limit < 1379684334 836413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find a nice small electric piano. < 1379684364 398366 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a wind "piano" < 1379684379 232972 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like an organ, probably < 1379684385 463933 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without the pipes < 1379684398 768174 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... are you referring to a melodica? < 1379684419 998706 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope < 1379684430 99085 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was electric < 1379684502 571097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creative sells a computer keyboard where the integrated wrist rest contains a small piano keyboard. < 1379684511 210545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally there's a cover on top of it when typing. < 1379684547 401660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ask.creative.com/wwimages/general/product_guides/prodikeys_dm.jpg <- this thing. < 1379684547 557883 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found mini-keyboards to be surprisingly useless for digital composing. < 1379684719 168971 :updog!~updog@modemcable226.119-70-69.static.videotron.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379685559 198192 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: why? < 1379685670 942840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly, Gregor isn't a midget. < 1379685683 194236 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes, when editing the quotes for too long, you realise your brain's been blocking dangerous replies in the background, preserving your sanity. < 1379685698 774840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: why. oh why did you link to shapeshifting cuttlefish erotica. < 1379685724 418011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asked~ < 1379685737 413926 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell? < 1379685744 106432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :answers that, then. < 1379685782 914059 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: A mix of things... velocity sensitivity is not useful, so their primary "advantage" isn't one, and you need to go trawling between octaves all the time because their range is so small. Add on the fact that your hands will surely be near the computer keyboard to do other things, and I never found myself using it. < 1379685861 341918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you could have a physically scrollable mini-keyboard that you could drag left and right to access further octaves. < 1379685870 634147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With some sort of a folding mechanism.) < 1379685939 763199 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was just a button press to get to other octaves. < 1379685956 222651 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much less time investment than a retarded let's-suck-Apple's-cock drag maneuver. < 1379686121 810412 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379686684 411737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote django < 1379686689 664769 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :265) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something \ 310) `quote django ​352) django is named after a person? thought it would be a giraffe or something thankfully only one \ 311) `quote django ​352) django is named a < 1379686707 504880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so the olsner-giraffe is part of the quote. no line break, then. < 1379686769 439516 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, so... I should probably quote you `quoting to keep the trend, is that it? < 1379686792 866613 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, only if olsner comments < 1379686800 365215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you'd be piling up on the olsner-cpressey-mnoqy combo. < 1379686837 623655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: and think before you say something djanguesque. the consequences will never be the same. < 1379686881 382405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379686881 893297 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 days... < 1379686889 722921 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 days until I'm in a far of land < 1379686893 485070 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1379686895 759237 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that far off < 1379686909 196986 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, less than 100 miles away < 1379686921 173728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 100 * 1.609 < 1379686922 460221 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :160.9 < 1379686939 388219 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. yeah. multiplication by one hundred. you guys didn't see nothing at all. < 1379686970 359227 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 百 * 二十から五 < 1379686971 75098 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (1): Not in scope: `百'Not in scope: `二十から五' < 1379686974 934371 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pff < 1379687024 172712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: eille :p < 1379687217 190385 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379687299 132944 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 'faudrait que tu japonise ton cuttlefish < 1379687342 165406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: file in an issue on github! :) < 1379687358 7848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pectopah < 1379687358 328915 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379687381 516136 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a congregation point for stupid cuttlefish? < 1379687472 32804 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right, there < 1379687473 288814 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :is* < 1379687475 774688 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/pfcuttle/metasepia ← ISSUES! FILE THEM! ☺ < 1379687493 632374 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :You put that on Github, but the repo is not quite useful =P < 1379687496 105282 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 Commits: < 1379687502 21258 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Initial" and "Initial Commit" < 1379687515 634442 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source code? Not much, just an "Hello World" < 1379687560 938907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. haven't had time to port the whole stuff to GHC 7.6. < 1379687570 774075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, all that error upheaval and stuff. < 1379687573 639906 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like. < 1379687603 61081 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy < 1379687604 877169 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add * < 1379687606 292348 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git commit < 1379687610 136700 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :git push origin master < 1379687612 600955 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE YOU GO < 1379687638 430920 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. not going to make public the old version. < 1379687662 585968 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I see < 1379687720 122199 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. some people in the chännel saw some parts. they can witness that it really shouldn't be made public :p < 1379687738 996522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aaaaurgh. that missed occasion in Duck.hs where I could have used Alternative... it still burns...) < 1379687778 653655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you seem to have a Deep and Old hatred of Apple Products. < 1379687807 844267 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because their products are awful, the company is awful, and everything they stand for is awful. < 1379687895 797695 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay < 1379688213 706325 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379688619 543376 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379688662 421720 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379688818 891236 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I put an issue on Github < 1379688838 591451 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379688928 750837 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1379688955 187122 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :おはよう！ < 1379689007 38477 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379689466 748862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I agree with one of kmc's quotes. I feel very strange. < 1379689523 116932 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379689528 641218 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one would that be? < 1379689556 966801 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote colemak < 1379689558 817123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :818) colemak is for people who think dvorak is too mainstream < 1379689566 352174 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379689572 458646 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1379689583 825398 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, un clavier AZERTY en vaut deux < 1379689585 359051 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there < 1379689609 439893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION bops Roujo with a Model M keyboard
< 1379689649 974151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379690465 333833 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379690510 306897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379690636 977009 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379690682 150343 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379691539 236409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I found the esolang Urn. I like this too. < 1379692806 173693 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379693289 443408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added some things in list of ideas < 1379693302 551883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funge like where the acceleration changes rather than the direction (although you can change the acceleration in any directions). < 1379694066 805053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379694316 751058 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a pretty good idea < 1379694349 8910 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps ^ < v > apply a force < 1379694354 660630 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can change the pointer's mass < 1379694745 680884 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you go too fast special relativity drops in? < 1379695036 719705 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379695149 719645 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379696081 314242 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379696379 752701 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379696639 229381 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379696655 215613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379697105 140292 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379698115 642012 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the funge is accelerated. < 1379698137 178674 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried a bún riêu today. it smells bad, but it tastes good ^^ < 1379698303 637830 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379698688 119350 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Rebooting < 1379699213 934145 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379699357 798426 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379700256 458924 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379700263 2120 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379700288 452158 :Bike_!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 NICK :Bike < 1379700296 662456 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379700330 937787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :new gaming categories are ridiculous. roguelikes are too mainstream, so now there are roguelikelikes. < 1379700363 398297 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1379700364 102008 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"action-adventure" of course was always a sensible categorization < 1379700403 521614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't really understand why action-adventure is different from rpg < 1379700429 730185 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where are my adventure point-and-clicks :( < 1379700449 498916 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my earliest memory of gaming genres is asking what "RP" meant in an ESRB rating and being told it stood for Role Playing Game, because in Starfox Adventures you played the role of Fox. < 1379700459 795937 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much been downhill from there < 1379700464 52425 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy... < 1379700466 354083 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: in action-adventure, you get action and adventure. in rpg you get scantily clad effeminate male protagonists. < 1379700490 575039 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's the crux really, rpg is hilariously broad < 1379700511 746578 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Borderland is an action-adventure FPSRPG < 1379700518 459046 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Fun* < 1379700522 256877 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Borderlands* < 1379700564 45176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it includes, as a genre, games where the player character is a fixed character independent of player input; and games where the PC has no characterisation whatsoever beyond that imposed on them < 1379700633 490394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see one day a cross between Call of Duty and Katamari. < 1379700671 458286 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost, ALMOST as if humans have a natural tendency to categorize. < 1379700673 389452 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a tragedy. < 1379700700 464204 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely tragic when human function doesn't match our idea of human function. < 1379700706 890815 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :human function is an asshole. < 1379700709 691861 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact < 1379700728 659626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: playing with the quotes, I came to create ad hoc categories: people obsessed with sex, and insane people. < 1379700740 166507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, yes but when you name the category after something that varies wildly within that category... < 1379700764 425448 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People" < 1379700809 867903 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Also, those two aren't mutually exclusive < 1379700847 947111 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/ this seems very zzo38 < 1379700917 593298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes. < 1379700939 311067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how do you measure zzoness? < 1379700941 433896 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: はい < 1379700974 182336 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: a special MSX Computer program i have < 1379701016 140191 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A man who fucks bicycles is on the loose in Sweden." < 1379701017 735605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: plausible. < 1379701027 106497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1379701087 391905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 何 < 1379701228 525556 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: 海老。 < 1379701238 889940 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 何 < 1379701254 300909 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shrimp" < 1379701256 570016 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>okay < 1379701788 201574 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379702335 636017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Patashu congratulations! you are another member of the Great People Revolutionary Association of People Who Were There, But Are Not < 1379702335 918711 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379702442 658876 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1379702622 384779 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bonkers < 1379702622 719533 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonkers definition: crazy, mad. < 1379702674 162670 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan lutefisk. in a microwave. you are mad. < 1379702674 307989 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379702698 408780 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan boily: Well yeah. We know that by now. < 1379702698 554014 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379702767 954042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: oerjan is a fine example of the insane people category. < 1379702776 507687 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, cool < 1379702783 184095 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do I fit in? < 1379702848 586409 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeh... the Canadian category? < 1379702998 596028 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woot woot < 1379703021 293141 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Canadian, the Sexually Obsessed and the Bat-Shit Cray Cray" < 1379703632 780806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379703637 60608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1107) \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379703647 142998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1379703649 975348 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379703655 362808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1379703658 853979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1379703661 690024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, ok... < 1379703871 61905 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admin abuse! < 1379703874 447361 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admin abuuuuuse! < 1379703874 592911 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379703970 469675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: yes, but that's besides the point. he's elliott. < 1379704054 137531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was my feeble attempt at appeasing the authorities, and trying to distract them long enough to slip in another `addquote) < 1379704138 472641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379704215 288600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody actually said that quote. < 1379704279 669106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. my next attempt will be subtler, and within the rules. < 1379704295 165093 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric : `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704297 691324 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go < 1379704344 533626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: there's still the slight detail that neither you nor I can `addquote it, cause it'll be in poor taste. < 1379704374 767566 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704375 35634 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704378 929325 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1107) \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704386 591543 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your point being? < 1379704403 985727 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1379704406 341573 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1379704406 918749 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah < 1379704409 33693 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379704435 687517 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo `addquote `addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704435 940064 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote `addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704440 159550 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1107) `addquote \item `addquote two quotes about quotes about django I guess the worst part is that I appear in all three hackego quotes about django \\ elliott\_: another quote? you're not helping \texttt{:/} ← and three giraffes. < 1379704440 307467 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a quote, right? < 1379704448 341554 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop. < 1379704458 540475 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright, alright... < 1379704509 81369 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1379704509 385023 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379704513 976876 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric HackEgo :HackEgo < 1379704515 679110 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric metasepia :metasepia < 1379704517 343745 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -v :Roujo > 1379704517 366929 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379704518 727423 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1379704518 737867 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379704519 952029 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PART :#esoteric < 1379704540 694817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :FATALITY < 1379704551 291120 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. I can't talk anymore. < 1379704608 991376 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, do you feel like that fishy lass in the book about the chap < 1379704633 458851 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do tell < 1379704640 490585 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Little Mermaid < 1379704656 7164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: My SO is called Arielle < 1379704676 765821 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, no, I don't believe I do < 1379704680 593604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :How *did* she feel < 1379704755 897844 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1379704768 905841 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :'morning, elliott < 1379704773 220981 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry for the botspam =/ < 1379704896 101418 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or would that be "about the botspam"? < 1379704897 685285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm hardly innocent of botspam myself in my wild and reckless youth :P < 1379704937 749110 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah =P < 1379704944 382448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not young. Roujo is. < 1379704947 447602 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you like twelve < 1379704957 789338 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more concerned about the ping that came with it =P < 1379704964 572129 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is twenty < 1379704969 415660 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It rhymes, so it's true < 1379705003 492448 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the hell does boily rhyme with twenty < 1379705015 358691 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bwenty rhymes with twenty < 1379705021 877593 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily does as well < 1379705023 299895 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily rhymes with oily! < 1379705029 841000 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1379705038 921783 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :First-degree rhymes have feelings! < 1379705044 464726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: /bwali/. < 1379705054 792178 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's a poor rhyme. Sue me. < 1379705057 332971 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Please don't) < 1379705061 23629 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that still doesn't rhyme with twenty! < 1379705091 157197 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It almost rhymes with "call me" < 1379705099 696006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :call me, boily < 1379705125 479885 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :(´･ω･`) < 1379705144 518383 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god no < 1379705151 996559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the fungot. < 1379705152 141980 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but, we are far outnumbered!... ...oh well! come again! these are my friends! this is the masamune! < 1379705167 920658 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379705196 108259 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hides behind mnoqy “You won't get me alive!”
< 1379705218 169673 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1379705242 327701 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379705262 391981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: hi. don't worry, nothing bad will happen to you. < 1379705402 586815 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it REALLY /bwali/ < 1379705424 193929 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember thinking it was /bwali/ but it was /bojli/ (screw proper transcription) < 1379705462 807731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: it really is /bwali/. transcribes /wa/. < 1379705621 427465 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: c'est domamge. la façon anglaise à l'air plus mignonne. "boï-lie!" < 1379705699 865181 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: j'aime aussi, vu que ça sonne comme «bouillant», mais j'ai comme un certain attachement sentimental à mon nom de famille :p < 1379705794 876842 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :change de nom de famille EQÇA < 1379705817 269991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: EQÇA? < 1379705833 321076 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"espère que ça aide" EQÇA < 1379705848 235999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō. je l'avais vraiment pas vue venir celle-là... < 1379706328 703223 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/we-dont-enable-backdoors-in-our-crypto-products-rsa-tells-customers/ wow these are like the worst denials < 1379706417 49513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"under no circumstances does RSA design or enable any backdoors in our products" < 1379706421 701191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you miss the earlier explanation that being slow is actually an advantage since it's harder to bruteforce keys < 1379706424 544815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the NSA designs them for us!" < 1379706427 813445 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice shit, imo < 1379706640 437419 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a little tumblr post about how everything is more likely to be intranecine incompetence than a conspiracy. i feel like i wear a next-level tinfoil hat < 1379706710 54949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some word, for like, a "conspiracy" that isn't really a conspiracy, like, it doesn't involve a lot of people? < 1379706721 513885 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Never blame on malice what that which can be attributed to stupidity. < 1379706726 398209 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the NSA can have a "conspiracy" to get RSA keys from lots of companies, but all it takes is one person sending out national security letters < 1379706733 366556 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really a big conspiracy < 1379706741 701411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :conspiracy = shared breath. spiracy = breath. so, spiracy < 1379706746 405691 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1379706750 770139 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just one person breathing < 1379706785 882146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's usually just called "abuse" or sometimes "corruption" < 1379706794 381650 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a power-mad shitbag" < 1379706800 400259 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno the latin for shitbag sorry < 1379706813 303423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1379706842 914396 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shit rock" is the closest i got. < 1379706865 499960 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :excrementum saccus? < 1379706870 385645 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coprolite < 1379706877 369213 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379706877 514584 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a kind of fossil) < 1379706898 675118 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess that's greek < 1379707172 752750 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1379707609 400743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally found why the phở was correctly typeset. it was because of \usepackage{txfonts}, which overrode \usepackage[sc]{mathpazo}. < 1379708283 846725 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379708498 577585 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379708792 119808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379708909 161983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i'm sorry, you clearly have misread the quote, it was precisely about how i refrained from lutefisk because it _cannot_ be microwaved < 1379708950 905568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no contest on the madness part though. < 1379708986 600817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/he-doesnt-juggle-he-doesnt-twist-balloons-into-animal-shapes-he-just-stares-who-is-the-creepy-clown-terrifying-the-people-of-northampton-8819006.html < 1379709075 914958 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dream job < 1379709116 494547 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379709120 364744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good URL. Best clown. < 1379709207 775122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks for the clarification. < 1379709244 708658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's \LaTeX{} command: \emergencystretch. quite useful for that bunch of unwarranted overfull hboxen! < 1379709559 788172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, un clavier AZERTY en vaut deux <-- wait, keyboard is clavier in french? < 1379709586 525022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:klavér means a large piano, or thereabouts. < 1379709610 308078 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well-tempered keyboard < 1379709624 90417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever keyboard. < 1379709633 567716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm clavus is latin for key, iirc < 1379709644 784557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modulo suffix) < 1379709649 980015 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1379709666 273622 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I concur. keyboard is indeed «clavier». < 1379709680 947235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no. «vier» is not a board.) < 1379709684 734691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/unfortunate-bbc-moustache-for-nigel-farage-8829452.html < 1379709711 280290 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :English also calls both keyboards of typing kind and music kind just keyboards, so that's reasonable? < 1379709730 132282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the french word, like the english, can be used both for computer and musical keyboards. < 1379709740 672360 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apologies for my previous tweet. An error of judgement on my behalf." you are incorrect! < 1379709757 243131 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't a ukip guy get in trouble for assault today < 1379709775 562342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i men hitting someone with a newspaper < 1379709782 813241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i assume your comment implies that finnish, like norwegian, uses different words. < 1379709809 546874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«MEP Godfrey Bloom, who refers to a room of female delegates as "sluts" and then whacks Channel 4 News's Michael Crick over the head» ah, yes < 1379709843 599165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tastatur and (iirc) klaviatur, respectively < 1379709846 302364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The trouble with Godfrey is that, he is not a racist, he's not an extremist or any of those things and he's not even anti-women, but he has a sort-of rather old fashioned territorial army sense of humour which does not translate very well in modern Britain." he's not racist, just racist < 1379709849 858655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It does. ("näppäimistö" and "koskettimisto".) < 1379709886 724616 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1379709902 957306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Näppäillä" is approximately "to tap", while "koskettaa" is "to touch". So you tap a computer keyboard, but touch a musical one. < 1379709935 242014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm -imist[oö] means what? < 1379709941 3901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spanish "tocar el piano"? < 1379709987 222091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, it goes through the noun-ifications "näppäin" 'thing you tap', "kosketin" 'thing you touch' first. < 1379710008 436805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Then it's a sort of a "multiple of these things" construction from there. < 1379710077 107935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: technically you're not racist if you hate _everyone_ < 1379710098 139839 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically you are racist if you're part of ukip, though < 1379710101 506897 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the -ier suffix in "clavier" comes from this http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-arius so it's like "keyer" < 1379710122 143617 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nontechnically < 1379710133 358846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a slightly specific, it will sound silly if you try applying the construction to arbitrary words. But there are other similar words. < 1379710142 588779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hey you may just think ukip gets closest to your general view on humanity, even if they're too light on the british. < 1379710146 278065 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyinator < 1379710164 904795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i know you're being funny and all but it's hard to laugh at them in this fashion < 1379710179 115543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The library card catalog (if such still existed) is a "kortisto", because it contains many cards ("kortti"), and so on. < 1379710198 473345 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, did i mention, i checked out a library book a few days back that had a punchcard in it < 1379710213 235296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: try drawing moustaches on their pictures before laughing. toothbrush style should work well. < 1379710248 104414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: darn i should have checked the second link above first < 1379710254 403652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh, I suppose "toimisto" means "office" because many tasks ("toimi", one sense) are performed there? < 1379710259 876496 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/50f6f8e4b7307955663b689dce7e5e8a/tumblr_mt3ajafUPK1r7tprao2_r1_1280.jpg behold, the future < 1379710344 153883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1379710351 156366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fungot is that... < 1379710351 301702 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you are strong of will...! that's the pendant the gurus and miss you. for you, it was a red rock as the chancellor. i can't burn, they take us in. many cloud in sky! we no can call that the chrono trigger. it is r66-y? cool? who knows what would become of my mystics? i must win! < 1379710352 458349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they still use them as punch cards? < 1379710354 258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyhow, you can't say "tuolisto" (a thing of many chairs "tuoli") without it sounding completely ridiculous, but you can say "penkistö" (a thing of many benches "penkki") and it sounds perfectly natural. < 1379710383 997724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzistö < 1379710384 849667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MITSFS has a bunch of punch cards like that, but these days they're used only for scratch paper / decoration < 1379710471 195238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the standard word for a park is "puisto", where "puu" means "a tree". (It's used also if the park in question has no trees in it.) < 1379710534 676515 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-223-129.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379710581 722083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv -f iso-8859-1 < /usr/share/dict/finnish | grep -i 'ist[oö]$' | wc -l => 94. < 1379710605 976619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not all of those are -- at least in any sort of obvious way -- constructed from a base noun.) < 1379710625 323993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is your dictionary in ISO 8859-1 :( < 1379710630 910932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1379710644 520918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what Debian "wfinnish" installs. < 1379710681 398334 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Character_Set#History_of_ISO_10646 apparently the original plan for extending UCS-2 beyond 2^16 codepoints was to use ISO 2022 < 1379710698 115457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :puuttaisto < 1379710713 150482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the original plan was even worse than UTF-16 < 1379710716 184389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might technically be in ISO 8859-15. Though there are no characters in it for which that'd make a difference. < 1379710730 994601 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379710749 484172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are some people still attached to ISO 2022? < 1379710786 721154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think many people are... < 1379710794 243802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it still gets used for line-drawing in non-Unicode terminals, at least < 1379710852 835101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :||| < 1379710858 500756 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be enough for anyone < 1379710876 194241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, take a -, a _ and a ­¯ as well < 1379710886 193480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and gets used for line-drawing in Unicode terminals when the software in question doesn't care enough to switch) < 1379710890 980180 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe even a =, a / and a \ < 1379710898 438104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about + < 1379710902 849751 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That too < 1379710908 969293 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think the not-caring part is the most important factor in non-unicodifying the whole world. < 1379710909 176291 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is useful for doing corners < 1379710911 605101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? Plenty to go around < 1379710923 360692 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :#, even < 1379710935 91742 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :! if you want a bit of flair < 1379710949 131426 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :( and ) for squiggles < 1379710954 329673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~~~ < 1379710957 401200 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[^a-zA-Z0-9] even < 1379710963 674672 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEH < 1379710969 152256 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :? doesn't quite do it for me < 1379710980 377006 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And neither does & < 1379710983 938539 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ~... < 1379710989 934061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is sexy. < 1379710994 99601 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :All night long~~ < 1379710998 891585 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ sweet ~ < 1379711014 63169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/HebS < 1379711023 496489 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~·~) (is that a valid smiley?) < 1379711031 502002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I've seen a box like that somewhere. < 1379711040 177392 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: Probably. < 1379711050 746038 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask boily, the smiley < 1379711052 785582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly with corners made out of Os or something. < 1379711055 516012 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It rhymes, so it's true < 1379711078 932975 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(~,·) < 1379711079 78308 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Taneb can't object, either < 1379711080 575291 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there < 1379711111 273028 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :~(·_·)~ < 1379711111 599772 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379711130 319584 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they don't still use them. the librarian gave me that one since otherwise he was just going to trash it. < 1379711145 856799 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only assume nobody had checked out "Reflections on Muscles" for a while, shocking as that is < 1379711160 856634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: stop rhyming me, you unpoetic fiend! < 1379711221 749296 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncle Muscles Hour < 1379711248 157806 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Uncle Muscles < 1379711253 665038 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can any group action on a set be used to define an equivalence relation on a set? < 1379711253 810541 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379711261 373246 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo got kicked by elliott < 1379711263 226355 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the same set twice) < 1379711264 353643 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i thought it would make for a good androphilic porno too < 1379711265 240086 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADMIN ABUUUUUUUUUUSE < 1379711276 515461 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas andrew huxley wasn't that hot when he wrote it < 1379711292 983451 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, wonder if i can find a picture of him young < 1379711297 991795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uncle Muscles is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_and_Eric_Awesome_Show,_Great_Job! < 1379711337 173111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: let me try an experimentale manœuvre... < 1379711337 358637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is basically a fever dream nightmare version of public access cable < 1379711347 133232 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379711350 328089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck uncle muscles < 1379711350 699279 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1379711357 400156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: nope. didn't work. < 1379711364 857726 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow there are like no pictures of this guy before he was like forty < 1379711387 162814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :about half of the actors are internationally known comedians, the other half are random people in LA they hired off craigslist, and the two groups get equal respect and screentime < 1379711402 196892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Young_Huxley_RN.jpg i guess his gramps was cute, though < 1379711429 860961 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"darwin's bulldog": possibly a bdsm thing? discuss < 1379711601 77492 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379711737 231034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: the obvious way would be an equivalence relation whose classes are the orbits of the group action < 1379711882 873825 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, considering I'm just reading this algebra book I'm not really familiar with all the terminology < 1379711896 649779 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an orbit of a group action? < 1379711929 611250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: just a set of the form { g x | g \in G } for x \in X < 1379711970 118765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, just define directly x ~ y as \exists g \in G : g x = y < 1379712013 548838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then g^-1 y = x, and transitivity is just multiplication < 1379712073 338303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible i'm not using the right terminology, g x is g acting on x. < 1379712091 940743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*terminology for your book < 1379712138 712406 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's sort of what I meant < 1379712219 643120 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it seems like a possibly useful result < 1379712308 753065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now prove that _every_ equivalence relation can be got from a group action >:) < 1379712410 401410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not necessarily a very interesting one, mind you) < 1379712567 650439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: /bwali/. <-- wait make up your mind, is it french or irish < 1379712619 222493 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is pronounced as in French. it is ultimately Irish. it is rael. it is real. ♪ guitar solo ♪ < 1379712673 423285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABl ? < 1379712686 683375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA HA HA! < 1379712688 344453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1379712844 905841 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0061798 gotta love biocyberneticists < 1379712852 827327 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of jacking into turtle brains, we'll just put blinders on them < 1379712906 403289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fig. 4 is nice. < 1379712996 720337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's not cybernetics, just politics. < 1379713070 569171 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha, but "cybernetics" means politics! < 1379713071 631445 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your move < 1379713111 883169 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379713253 873746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll borrow the porn e2 to e4 from the other day. < 1379713268 871973 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379713288 383637 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379713462 769795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "espère que ça aide" EQÇA <-- can i borrow that for emergencies? < 1379713497 503667 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i hereby release these four letters to the public domain. EQÇA. wait aren't you supposed to be kicking the habit < 1379713506 737190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1379713535 94705 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379713828 372033 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1379713832 251340 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379714397 364096 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb Oh. OH. Yeah, I remember now - she also lost her voice. God, that took a while < 1379714397 509340 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379714470 860914 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1379715307 460775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, were you guys trying to add latex-formatted quotes to the quotedb or something? < 1379715525 755883 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379715528 781721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was a mispaste. < 1379715807 18311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1379715963 705466 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379717219 318670 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you old? < 1379717254 259552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :43. < 1379717325 492359 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :43... < 1379717366 369028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :43......... < 1379717371 251969 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379717411 936379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :43!?!?!? < 1379717479 171929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :43‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ < 1379717518 479273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did shachaf leave here? < 1379717536 936789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1379717579 243239 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an opposite of a ban we could use for people who try to leave < 1379717659 722556 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379717665 805788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah we should have nabbed shachaf before he escaped < 1379717728 159057 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1379717948 372668 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: summon? < 1379717993 196492 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe you're looking for the other kind of esoterica? < 1379718011 647451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ಠ_ಠ < 1379718011 924455 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69      ¯|¯⌠ < 1379718012 79154 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       |\| < 1379718029 703705 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you require assistance < 1379718083 215166 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379718109 475654 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am sleep < 1379718321 683933 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379718468 68280 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379718797 366983 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379718830 964498 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379721014 240696 :Nikita!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379721331 642269 :Nikita!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1379721445 50173 :Nikita!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 NICK :nio247 < 1379721481 357942 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome nio247 < 1379721503 269025 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379721516 318046 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear hackego got kicked by elliott < 1379721611 156676 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I had an idea for an esolang, what if we had something like a string-rewriting system using a list of production rules < 1379721642 620458 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's been done a few times i think? what's yr twist on it < 1379721685 21940 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where each rule was of the form "if contents of buffer X match a CFG expression Y, rewrite contents of buffer Z with an expression W", where W can have substrings copied from some part of Y < 1379721747 148379 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be an easier or harder way to write grammars, idk. < 1379721906 638878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFG might be more expressive than the usual regular... < 1379721954 366342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although as thue shows, you only need fixed strings and one buffer to be TC < 1379721995 248586 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that if you can also include expressions for multiple buffers (i.e. a set of strings A -> a set of strings B, plus a set of subexpressions C that have to be equal among matches), then you can, for example, parse C code, populate a symbol table, and check if something is known or not at the same time. < 1379722060 587110 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... as opposed to writing a LL(*) parser for a superset of a language, and then doing semantic analysis (is this a variable name or a type name?) to discard invalid programs. < 1379722088 666059 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1379722306 772639 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I'm trying to do is take a turing-tarpit (a production-based string-rewriting system like Thue) and make it into something that is somewhat easier to use... except my flavor isn't much better in that regard either. < 1379722576 213986 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@dhcp-128-189-201-31.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379722693 565263 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379722941 247223 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379723070 238649 :OriginalOldMan!62e86073@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.96.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379723539 931610 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379723547 724650 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379723721 254939 :OriginalOldMan!62e86073@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.96.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379724217 747167 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379724801 585036 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379725075 584447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379725629 595556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379726309 898000 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1379727194 691963 :nio247!cdaf6131@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.175.97.49 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379728268 327865 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379730117 687518 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379730258 686788 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1379730588 616632 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379732794 558842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here willing to explain to me how synchronous design in circuits works? i'm missing something easy i'm sure < 1379732921 606342 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :willing, not able < 1379732952 233791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have known :( < 1379733398 728400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory "just ask your question" < 1379733439 855334 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how" < 1379733482 24803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "synchronous design" < 1379733484 629306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im probably not helpin < 1379733525 620123 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't understand how you like, synchronize everything to not happen all at once. it seems probably more complicated than doing "everything" on a clock posedge < 1379733991 232616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um I'm not sure if it's what you mean, but like < 1379734004 400660 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :register -> wires and transistors and stuff -> register < 1379734016 306997 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the idea is like. the clock is a period of time, and during that period of time, everything in the middle is "on" < 1379734024 952848 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and happens at once < 1379734039 398966 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course like, the signal takes time to travel down the middle, which happens during the clock, which isn't instant < 1379734044 750162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, then why would you worry about latency in an adder? < 1379734054 325042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like, towards the start of the clock, a wire near the end might have an interdeterminate state < 1379734057 803509 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*indeterminate < 1379734064 559036 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the electricity hasn't propagated yet? < 1379734084 635890 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's what i'm worried about < 1379734088 60594 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the design rules and stuff ensure that the signal propagates to the end register before the clock ends, basically. so that it's not indeterminate < 1379734107 461478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see... < 1379734108 163738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so, you worry about latency because that limits how fast you can set your clock < 1379734111 27343 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense. < 1379734115 350410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! yeah! < 1379734116 938722 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can't set your clock faster than the signal propagates? < 1379734119 370818 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, yeah, cool < 1379734122 888943 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's right. < 1379734124 969551 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that helps < 1379734206 115297 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think when your FPGA thing tells you the clock rate of your design, it did the analysis and found the longest path? and then did math and stuff < 1379734223 687421 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well i'm not as far as that yet, i'm doing the worrying myself >_> < 1379734228 941823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with FPGA it's more complicated though because it has these limited interconnects between different parts and it sometimes has to time-division multiplex them, i think < 1379734325 130952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it has to decide where to put everything < 1379734336 819375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not just adding up gate delays, but actually doing a really complex optimization problem < 1379734344 95956 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think i'm still not sure how fpgas work < 1379734359 100453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ide thing apparently lays things out in terms of logic gates, if only at some intermediate stage < 1379734380 38394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway note that you don't need clocks for pure combinational logic < 1379734403 563905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pure logic gate (and any circuit of such gates with no feedback) will just have outputs that settle some amount of time after all the inputs have settled < 1379734421 24215 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's why we haven't learned any clocking in class :p < 1379734426 388920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where "settle" means that the voltage is in the "represents 0" or "represents 1" range for the logic family you're using < 1379734459 367679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and really there are two sets of ranges, one for inputs and one for outputs) < 1379734483 801297 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn circuits by reading a lot of Lava code or something. < 1379734524 234313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need clocks when you have state, because you need to say when to update the state, presumably after the combinational logic has settled < 1379734532 384591 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, a/nother/ hdl < 1379734547 638740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although there are some things that have state but no clocks, like a buffer with a schmitt trigger input) < 1379734551 622814 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually there's about six things called Lava. < 1379734558 259745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have the wrong xilinx chip. < 1379734573 996494 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm guessing you mean the one related to circuits and haskell. who could say why i am making such a guess! < 1379734584 101833 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I mean there are multiple circuit EDSLs for Haskell called Lava. < 1379734590 484918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What HDL do you like anyways? I didn't like them perfectly due to other problem so I made up my own idea; what kind of feature would you want for HDL, anyways? I would like to know opinion of who does too < 1379734594 96790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's York Lava, Kansas Lava, Chalmers Lava, probably others < 1379734595 934265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs, closes everything
< 1379734607 34405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to biology, where the code is shitty but uniform < 1379734616 362031 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ther'es a circuit edsl for scala too. what lanaguage DOESN'T have a circuit edsl at this point < 1379734620 127762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can imagine making a whole processor — fetch, decode, execute, memory, writeback — as pure combinational logic, but the longest gate delay path through there will be really long < 1379734629 923880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: right, right < 1379734634 898500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why pipelining was invented < 1379734652 88452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what fiora said makes this much easier for me to understand intuitively < 1379734654 885863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: anyway I like 'em because VHDL and Verilog are so noisy and the Lavas seem nice and declarative (to varying degrees, I like the one that the Reduceron is built with most because it uses observable sharing so there's a lot less noise, even if it's kinda creepy). < 1379734655 31172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1379734661 34114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I don't know; perhaps INTERCAL? Is there one in Forth? < 1379734664 422576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just throwing out things I know now :) < 1379734664 754375 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe sort of get the async stuff in neural models < 1379734701 726891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i think i'm pretty far from implementing "An FPGA implementation of a polychronous spiking neural network with delay adaptation", soon the brain will be mine < 1379734729 795234 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah verilog is pretty annoying, it just doesn't matter because i'm doing the circuitry equivalent of writing "convert fahrenheit to degrees" programs < 1379734763 189643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have used Verilog a little bit but I don't like it all that much; the others seem worse though. < 1379734776 992462 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose i shouldn't bother asking verilog-specific questions here since nobody seems to know it < 1379734789 444954 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can take a look at http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/fp/reduceron/memos/Memo23.txt. it's accessible even to me, person who knows nothing about circuits. maybe it'll just make you feel worse about having to use verilog though < 1379734794 458553 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my experience with verilog is using it in conjunction with an ide to write a dumb pipelined processor for a schoolcourse < 1379734795 337224 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I basically know, like, my remnants of attempts to intuitively understand it -_- < 1379734817 473265 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i possibly have memories of a tiny bit of verilog < 1379734864 506001 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why is this already talking about clock cycles... whatever, i'm just making a fuckin adder < 1379734890 491043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so I think the FPGA has its own clock, separate from any clocks you might built into your design < 1379734906 829904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1379734908 757866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that look like pure combinational logic might still need to be implemented using clocks < 1379734913 114720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of sharing those interconnects, etc < 1379734930 200079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's one clock provided to me but i think others were mentioned < 1379735002 626809 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379735006 905629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at the xilinx development internals has kind of soured me from learning about how the chip actually works, though >_> < 1379735086 318894 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you had better figure it out anyways so that it can be programmed by making a program in the FPGA to do it, so that you don't need the other computer to make it. < 1379735131 981274 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean is, zzo38, that to do that (which I would like to do,, in the abstract), I would essentially have to reverse engineer a few gigabytes worth of tools, which I don't really have the expertise or will to do. < 1379735156 895459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone else to do. < 1379735178 369543 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Could you reverse engineer a few gigabytes worth of proprietary tools for me? < 1379735241 275279 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so, but I expect that maybe many people can try to do it together. < 1379735415 710385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That includes anyone who has the file (I don't). < 1379735445 257991 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get the system free, actually. < 1379735454 340448 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :free as in lack of beer, obviously < 1379735485 425935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have those FPGA though. Even if I had the program it won't help if I don't have FPGA as well. < 1379735540 689004 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need the physical board to figure out how the programs work. < 1379735555 28558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: don't feel like it < 1379735599 762173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having the physical board too would help < 1379735736 792368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of features would you intend to have in hardware programming languages? < 1379735832 232484 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me, HWPL would be something like: TRIGGER .CLOCK SET .REGISTER TO .INPUT; or perhaps you wait it continuous instead of by edge, for example: LATCH .CLOCK SET .REGISTER TO .INPUT; CONNECT .REGISTER TO .OUTPUT; < 1379735858 655701 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of just this example at least? < 1379735894 237751 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in wired http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/bitcoin-homeless/ < 1379735952 599669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some commands might be: TRIGGER vector SET vector TO vector; LATCH bit SET vector TO vector; CONNECT vector TO vector; CONNECT vector TO vector WHEN bit; and so on. < 1379736196 316820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And he can beef up this daily take with Bitcoin Tapper, a mobile app that doles out about 0.000133 bitcoins a day — a couple of pennies — if he just taps on a digital icon over and over again." kill everyone < 1379736329 252398 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MODULE !D_FLIP_FLOP() {.CLOCK,.D,.Q,.NOTQ} BEGIN INPUT {.CLOCK,.D}; REGISTER .Q; OUTPUT .NOTQ; CONNECT ~.Q TO .NOTQ; TRIGGER .CLOCK SET .Q TO .D; END; Is this good? < 1379736416 300688 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitcoin beats the shit out of regular money < 1379736435 468635 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean that 600k homeless people in the US seems surprisingly low to me < 1379736459 842326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I am just using regular money though, just Canadian coins and bills < 1379736488 75397 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i bet it doesn't have any shit in it. you can thank bitcoin for that. < 1379736521 685814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379736847 843786 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379736994 566674 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379736996 334666 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379737109 722924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each numeric type contains exactly one value." yeah this is grand < 1379737680 737194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What are you refering to? < 1379739182 691120 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379739755 731693 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-29-208.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379739803 749929 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379740030 501429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bytes < 1379740151 686770 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379740473 774318 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: .oO( https://medium.com/funny-stuff/d7e5d14065f1 ) < 1379740581 711602 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379740632 416667 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's hard to read. < 1379740654 291348 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379740723 260054 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the third part is relevant. < 1379740731 848973 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379740761 151653 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to? < 1379740765 414550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the homelessness thing. < 1379740770 808139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttcoin < 1379740822 458441 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's worth noting that "paid to hit a button for advertisers" is, still, pretty much an actual improvement < 1379741115 275661 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 NICK :lifthrasiir < 1379742681 326522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat that numpy lets you get the elements of x which are less than 4 as x[x < 4] < 1379742686 498220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because x<4 is an array of bools < 1379742815 460161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that is interesting, and is a good idea to use array of bools like this. < 1379742987 822428 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379744402 840390 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379744431 482112 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379744436 72777 :rodgort`!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379744493 692287 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1379744711 64026 :SingingBoyo!~singingbo@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379745367 643373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379746119 292837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379746246 109456 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379746285 196416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379747835 942812 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379754719 321619 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379755351 476745 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379755356 152876 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379755962 282990 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1379756026 570677 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379756637 49440 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1379756643 172236 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379758132 664410 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379762337 333490 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1379763865 856369 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379765291 253231 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379768361 345900 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379768426 492243 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379768447 331553 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379773406 171604 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Gregor elliott kicked HackEgo on Friday, could you bring it back in the channel? Thank you! =) < 1379773406 354393 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379773439 819684 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. Manifest destiny. < 1379774697 538901 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379775148 400719 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379775323 134808 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1379775534 849492 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Okay =P < 1379776385 120933 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379780285 852300 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379780851 107549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379782235 221388 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379782868 110637 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379783422 153221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379783540 540918 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did elliott kick HackEgo on Friday? < 1379783567 404129 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gone power-mad < 1379783637 194570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was being used for multi-bot spam :p < 1379783700 158959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you can still access it private anyways < 1379783708 702015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see < 1379783728 64863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it still works < 1379783821 913829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And things like `list and so on can still be typed into the channel even if HackEgo no longer responds; you will have to filter on the client-side instead, now. < 1379783865 708776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I told you that at first, you didn't like it; now what do you think? < 1379783872 256944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1379783936 250362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY IDEAS NOW, ACADEMY?? MWAHAHAHAHAHA *zzo surrounded by lightning* < 1379784359 563279 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hopefully VIS will get it working soon, but they don't care (or know) much about linux. " ausdfahisdfnqfoiasdf < 1379784391 328630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't even know that IT people not knowing some unix was a thing. what a fool i am. < 1379785195 404491 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty common thing TBH. < 1379785239 709696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379785239 855283 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1379785256 846184 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think this problem is even linux-specific though, so i'll have to find a windows computer to test on. siiiigh < 1379785499 231341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish my department and the EECS department just shared tech support. what's the fuckin point of splitting it up < 1379786166 724495 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't trust each other < 1379786398 883080 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379786640 558488 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1379786998 477385 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computer science department, as a rule, never uses the same tech support. < 1379787030 700 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, i want the CS department's tech support to take over everyone else's, for hopefuly obvious reasons. < 1379787080 50404 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other departments, as a rule, never use the computer science department for tech support. < 1379787085 761672 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but whyyyyy < 1379788694 862638 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379788907 868602 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379789381 376984 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379789505 856091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I call the command to tell it that a label refers to a vocabulary entry? (It is like DW but it sets the internal vocabulary flag in the compiler) < 1379790307 828372 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379791232 137419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379791484 542850 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379791490 499300 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379792282 249990 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Played Mafia IRL last night. Couldn't stop cracking up when I was maf, still managed to win that round < 1379792360 641218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok as long as it's not evil laughter < 1379792788 536305 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it when other people have ideas that i'd love to have < 1379793715 587260 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379794662 135149 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379794719 557823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recommended For You" "The New Nordic Diet - from Gastronomy to Health" ... I don't know about this, Coursera. < 1379794962 893005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lutefisk diet, guaranteed to lose weigth as long as you eat nothing else. < 1379794968 139979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*weight < 1379795277 43125 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corpses shed weight pretty fast. < 1379795310 895319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people _may_ have claimed the word "else" is redundant there. < 1379795816 357265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379796520 253937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379796622 367408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i eat lutefisk and hákarl < 1379796874 803143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you _can_ < 1379796900 870271 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was laughing when the narrator announced who was killed off < 1379796941 368849 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :great narrators are awesome < 1379797002 517307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die." < 1379797018 673488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure I am physically capable of eating hákarl < 1379797020 684459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds scary < 1379797034 588724 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were joking that I was definitely either mafia or really liked death < 1379797041 35525 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I mention Mafia won? < 1379797052 590084 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you did < 1379797055 560615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so scary, it's just rotten poisonous fish < 1379797064 33934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have seen that quotation before < 1379797074 736734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a movie, that is how it is. < 1379797124 21231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379797140 623285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: apparently it's "The 2,000 Year Old Man". < 1379797152 559878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Mel Brooks. < 1379797170 239169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379797190 697328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess he'll never know. < 1379797345 551387 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyjdibkxngzrlxav JOIN :#esoteric < 1379797658 941602 :Guest18414!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyjdibkxngzrlxav NICK :AwfulProgrammer < 1379797995 954042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lights in my living room are now visualizing the operation of randomly chosen "turing machines" on a finite cyclic tape < 1379798032 684130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are heuristics for choosing interesting machines of this sort < 1379798184 97806 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379798312 513737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's often the case that the undergrad-run computing club has better stuff than the CS department or anyone else < 1379798581 722366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in terms of hardware (since it's usually hand-me-downs) but in terms of competence and entertainment value < 1379798763 845092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379798998 606259 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379799049 635770 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the CS IT seems pretty good, they can wrangle the network printers and stuff. meanwhile the LUG is kinda stereotypical :p < 1379799491 368237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so < 1379799560 342358 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had a sign up talking about how linux is better than windows because it's more secure but also just more fun < 1379799588 61738 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :were they having an argument about which distro is better as you passed by? xD < 1379799628 98502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stereotypes of linux user group: likes linux < 1379799630 834975 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't stick around, was only there to buy my fpga from the ieee people < 1379799631 780117 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379799781 628208 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway: «Decaf design's initiative aims for global synergy of design area's to "Green" an actual product, while seeking execution by exposure to producers and investors - San Francisco" < 1379799785 606427 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*» < 1379799835 513918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :area's < 1379799861 205547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, are they making coffe? < 1379799863 502360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*coffee < 1379799900 17573 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like they're trying to obfuscate that they haven't figured out what they're doing yet < 1379799953 789596 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they retweeted a reply i made that seemingly has nothing to do with any of that, and had already retweeted a bunch of weird stuff from strangers multiple times, so i just reported them as spam < 1379799959 676508 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will be very effacious i'm sure < 1379799979 226343 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :efficacious* i dunno i love that word < 1379800138 74937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ecoffeacious < 1379800155 427615 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Echo-feces-ous < 1379802255 256974 :S1!d9fc8d74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.141.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379802398 133559 :S1!d9fc8d74@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.141.116 QUIT :Client Quit < 1379803799 927512 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379805839 580821 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379805843 35554 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379805955 238709 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379806101 591736 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379807199 730747 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379807266 441090 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.182-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379807269 537165 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1379807732 502153 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c431376.r76.cf2.rackcdn.com/38376/fnins-07-00014-HTML/image_m/fnins-07-00014-t001.jpg hardest of the core < 1379807777 974924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh LUTs as RAM < 1379807784 295697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you compile < 1379807819 489976 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me yet :( it's a neural simulator, most of the ram is axonal properties < 1379807872 59073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I read neural stimulator and thought you were building some kind of mind-computer interface < 1379807928 132541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you are seeing is just the escaped AI simulating Bike to throw us off while it conquers the world. < 1379808058 428819 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bikes, of course, are completely natural" < 1379809031 854731 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I watch Farscape, or should I watch Star Trek Voyager's "Threshold" superimposed with The Last Airbender movie? < 1379809055 73889 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farscape < 1379809074 513972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is this even a question you are asking < 1379809092 114657 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I wanted to be silly? < 1379809103 29306 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored, might watch some Farscape, or might not, not sure < 1379809114 410711 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The second option isn't a real option, as I hope was obvious) < 1379809168 254540 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't < 1379809188 315166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it was < 1379809243 619737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quiet you < 1379809301 614973 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you rather be forced to watch "Threshold" or The Last Airbender movie? < 1379809339 864197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering one is ~40 minutes long and the other is probably at least two hours... < 1379809376 590973 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379809544 204387 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: watch threshold then watch some farscape < 1379809562 627869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't encourage him < 1379809575 731065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll watch threshold, they always watch threshold < 1379809582 596791 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :THRESHOOOOLD < 1379809712 156620 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were different olsner < 1379809718 924159 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now i see you are just a swede < 1379809757 929579 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would I be different? < 1379809788 346722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they deleted DMM's wikipedia page :( < 1379809793 259972 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you didn't seem as terrible as every other swede < 1379809799 748171 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379809806 844290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed you'd been abducted at birth from norway or finland or somewhere < 1379810343 805405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the IWC page has an AFD... < 1379810449 929202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is why making the other Wikipedia, you can join them together in case of things deleted from Wikipedia so you can access both kinds < 1379811503 711885 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should resume watching Ghost in the Shell at some point < 1379811802 494798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you should resume watching farscape < 1379811810 288969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear it's like people commit to not finishing it < 1379811942 804874 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I prefer shades of grey to black and white. I think I'll go watch Farscape instead < 1379812002 377780 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't remember watching "Taking the Stone", but Amazon thinks I've watched it < 1379812020 892770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :immaterial; it's shit < 1379812040 41319 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379812055 134101 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I stopped watching in the first few minutes < 1379812129 342666 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: are you saying to skip it? < 1379812168 972459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379812187 480092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since crackers don't matter is the next episode < 1379812229 372938 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1379812802 394563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another use of zero length array in C may be type identification in macros. < 1379812851 243830 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're also useful if you want to keep track of 0 of something < 1379812892 168036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Well, if the zero isn't a literal, then perhaps yes. < 1379813001 581169 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main use as described in the GCC manual, is to make a array at the end of a structure, which you do not know the size until it is allocated. < 1379813052 552784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However there are some other uses too. < 1379813076 309514 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any others? < 1379813092 344200 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo it... would probably help if you'd give context before saying things like Another use of zero length array in C may be type identification in macros. < 1379813100 559489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They also do not have to be at the end; it can be useful at the beginning or whatever too) < 1379813150 370251 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379813201 358911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Doesn't it describe already in those sentence, though? < 1379813291 596770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... no, you hadn't said what the first use of zero-length arrays is. < 1379813293 477250 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Phantom_Hoover means: you said "another use ..." without a first use being mentioned < 1379813323 400249 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but i guess you meant "beside the main use" which you described afterwards?) < 1379813336 989849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I just mean, another use, in general. < 1379813440 486475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I mean by type identification in macro may be something like: typedef struct { char x[2]; } Two; typedef struct { char x[3]; } Three; typedef struct { Three type_id[0]; ... I haven't actually tried it though < 1379813518 502398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1379814145 293918 :OriginalOldMan!62e86073@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.96.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379814294 204854 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379814772 658566 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phthat was narmy < 1379814891 296931 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh he left < 1379815628 871681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnyte < 1379816053 647749 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379816357 684270 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379817659 257265 :OriginalOldMan!62e86073@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.96.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379819083 642057 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not equinox quite yet! It is tomorrow. < 1379820675 227722 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379820768 469207 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1379825800 284572 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379825904 698412 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379826095 707443 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-29-20.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379826095 891445 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-29-20.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1379826095 891583 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379826203 732180 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-29-208.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379828562 758498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a hardware programming language I think it make more sense for numbers without a prefix to be in binary. What is your opinion? < 1379828594 79791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly that verilog literals are super awkward and i can imagine almost any change as an improvement < 1379828601 502957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out vhdl has a nice "others" thing < 1379828669 396785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Verilog, you create std_logic_vectors using double quotes < 1379828674 300047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"0111010" or whatever < 1379828679 177452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, you can use "others" to abbreviate < 1379828697 232062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0 => '0', 1 => '0', others => '1') < 1379828928 241170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* in VHDL, < 1379828940 952073 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it took me a while to get but it seems nice < 1379828971 973404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my instructor/supplier doesn't know verilog but is moving his course to it for some reason, so all the old interesting files are still vhdl) < 1379829147 58853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :VHDL syntax is both verbose and bizarre < 1379829149 207628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know of the "others" < 1379829158 515729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it normally does contain some way to do what you want < 1379829173 394643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does (0 => '0', 1 => '0', others => '1') do, exactly? < 1379829175 606373 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super verbose, yeah < 1379829181 635966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should look up the syntax for a multidimensional array sometime, it's ridiculous < 1379829198 804213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it means a constant where bits 0 and 1 are 0, and the other bits are 1 < 1379829231 808896 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the constant itself is polymorphic to different bitwidths and data types (it'll work for anything that has a 0 and a 1) < 1379829232 63337 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like an associative array. < 1379829241 268107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK I understand. < 1379829247 417556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a vector of bits, or of std_logics < 1379829253 43272 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :polymorphic constant huh... i've been wondering about that in verilog < 1379829253 188446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still it is different than how I would design, a lot. < 1379829397 48727 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own design is different, you can see how it compares and what features you like and hate and neutral. (I called it "HWPL") I put what I think is better for a hardware programming language; these things are different than what would go in a software programming language. One is that - is unary fanout operator taking a single bit and making a full vector of that bit, so something like {10,-1} or {-1,01} or {10X,-Z,111Z1} or whatever can make a pol < 1379829419 710156 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly so far I think I'd like more macrology stuff. < 1379829424 72547 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instantiation seems... messy. < 1379829442 121898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also like to have a lot of support of macros. < 1379829452 154732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also part of my design, although I have not designed that part yet. < 1379829458 643368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even tried parametrized instantiation yet, though. < 1379829462 148489 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna make me some adders < 1379829508 947480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, for xilinx virtex generally has more meat than spartan, right? if you know. < 1379829527 749639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decimal and hexadecimal numbers would also be polymorphic in HWPL, although binary numbers (which is the default if no prefix is given) are fixed. Do you like this kind of ideas? < 1379829554 976676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I've heard of both, but can't remember which is more powerful offhand < 1379829560 101394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd suspect the virtex are more powerful, though < 1379829562 520198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Virtex is more powerful? < 1379829566 185733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because most of the low-end boards used spartans < 1379829586 446190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, in VHDL, a number is just a number < 1379829588 570297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight < 1379829595 865830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can store "1010" in a 4-bit std_logic_vector < 1379829601 290189 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wondering because this paper used virtex and i was wondering what i could fake on my cheap spartan < 1379829607 445303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't store 10 without converting it to a std_logic_vector first < 1379829625 405279 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have to do conv_std_logic_vector(10, 4) if you wanted to specify it in decimal < 1379829648 69258 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379829678 328033 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :likewise, if you want to use a std_logic_vector as an array index (say you're accessing block RAM), you have to convert it to an integer first using conv_integer, because array indexes are integers < 1379829691 351903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it differently; in HWPL there are no "numbers", only vectors; they have different properties such as static or dynamic or whatever to tell how they can be used. < 1379829724 547641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No numbers? What about extrahardware values? < 1379829753 112098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will be static vectors; they can be used as numbers in macros and so on. < 1379829809 434481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about negative ones? < 1379829852 400853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You'd think the Spartan would be the one that has less bling. < 1379829888 545880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah i thought that, but then i thought to myself, "what the fuck is a virtex supposed to be" < 1379829894 320903 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't remember a fucking virtex city state" < 1379829899 26941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A virtual vertex. < 1379829903 358401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since they are polymorphic they can be negative too, like #-42 and the compiler would make as many bits as needed for a signed integer value to use with the computer, if negative numbers are valid in such places, which it might not be. < 1379829925 654214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I mean, this is a value that isn't even in the hardware. < 1379829965 900537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes I know what you mean; if a macro takes a 32-bit signed integer then you can get a 32-bit static vector with the high bit being the signed bit, for example. < 1379829992 968781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, implicit casts may be used. < 1379830008 972767 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379830061 368948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In such case, something like #42 or $2A is a number, and 101010 is a vector, but you can implicitly cast between them. < 1379830066 193653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could be another way. < 1379830145 45773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I think I like this way better; it works if the compiler requires bignums for something, too. < 1379830224 347420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this way better? < 1379830237 738753 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. < 1379830280 282642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is no need for explicit casts.) < 1379830319 790033 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you cannot cast dynamic vectors to numbers. < 1379830382 326505 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh, one thing your language must have is recursive module instantiation (using if..generate in order to give a base case) < 1379830399 124487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in VHDL, there's an obvious syntax for it, but it tends to crash compilers or drive them into an infinite loop < 1379830405 18909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I suspect it isn't allowed < 1379830423 666024 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :working off a parameter? < 1379830493 481408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes; it would need such thing in macros. Powerful macro facility is an important thing I need to have, which allows it to do that, and other things. < 1379830536 993573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: VHDL has "generics", which are basically compile-time parameters < 1379830539 780205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, like, template arguments < 1379830542 281985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd work off one of those < 1379830568 993621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1379830576 369019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :verilog calls them "parameters" near as i can tell < 1379830595 50550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, VHDL and Verilog have an effectively equivalent feature set < 1379830603 522281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just different names and syntax for everything < 1379830615 54203 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :/ boring < 1379830677 887880 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379830842 412868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of annoying taking a hardware class on all this "low level" stuff and then learning that it's super far from the realities of LUTs < 1379831021 948713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a LUT is basically an arbitrary 4- or 6- input 1-output logic gate that can optionally only change on clock edges < 1379831024 531567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps, if ? specifies macro parameters then it might be: MODULE !X(?X) .X: BEGIN IF |?X: !X(?X-#1); ... I think that would do it, isn't it? < 1379831041 295470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some special cases for things like reset circuitry < 1379831095 243222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: right, well, we ain't talkin about that in class, is what's sad < 1379831126 937774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pretty simple definition, really < 1379831150 651208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an FPGA just lets you connect them together in various patterns (not arbitrary patterns, there are actually quite a lot of limits in practice, which is why place and route takes so long) < 1379831155 723677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just kind of want to know more about how the system is actually working < 1379831163 403453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, like i don't even know what the heck place and route is < 1379831164 519600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with various special-purpose blocks like multipliers and block RAM < 1379831188 666904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c431376.r76.cf2.rackcdn.com/38376/fnins-07-00014-HTML/image_m/fnins-07-00014-t001.jpg from the paper i was reading earlier; barely know what this means < 1379831193 827569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the first stage of compile is parsing the source code, then working out what circuitry it corresponds to < 1379831202 964012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then placement is where it figures out which circuitry goes on which place of the chip < 1379831208 148815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and routing works out how they interconnect < 1379831214 498770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then after that is assembly and programming < 1379831220 903856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are sometimes system-specific steps in between < 1379831223 648020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you understand my code, is it like the kind of things you meant? (Well, it contains an error; instead of !X(?X-#1); you need something like !X(?X-#1) .Y; since an I/O vector is needed) < 1379831275 363792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there are two main ways you can use a LUT < 1379831288 430246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either you can just use its truthtable behaviour, and have it calculate some logical predicate for you < 1379831299 71664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can ignore that and just care about the clock edge behaviour, that gives you a RAM < 1379831299 294021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :But like, say I make a half adder module, a xor and and; does that become one LUT? if i have multiple half adders does it collapse them into one LUT? that kind of thing < 1379831304 469412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and ofc they can be combined) < 1379831316 791351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a LUT typically only has one output < 1379831323 576375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your half adder is two LUTs < 1379831331 165302 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a full adder is also two LUTs < 1379831340 345883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has two outputs, and three inputs (which is ≤ 4) < 1379831357 454457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a LUT on a low-end FPGA can represent an arbitrary Boolean function with 4 or fewer inputs and one output < 1379831373 693859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(higher-end FPGAs have more inputs on their LUTs, 6 or even 8) < 1379831399 680263 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume a LUT has more "inputs" used for programming in a truth table? < 1379831473 670937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can think of it as having 4 inputs that are part of the circuit you're designing, and 16 that tell it which circuit to design < 1379831480 112833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those 16 are "ROM" rather than RAM < 1379831483 282665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right sure < 1379831496 229267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :any chance for self modification? < 1379831508 667288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very little < 1379831516 40282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are systems on which it's possible, but it's really complex < 1379831527 744092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's optimized for read, and typically really awkward to write < 1379831537 121658 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, huh, that means the high end luts could have 256 program inputs < 1379831547 186378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379831549 585885 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that why programming my fpga takes an amount of time that's like, noticeable? < 1379831554 783834 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the awkward to read thing i mean < 1379831561 278167 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to write*, fuck < 1379831573 242578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the reasons, probably the main one < 1379831589 107244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one's just a matter of bandwidth < 1379831595 191816 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm. < 1379831597 198029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only drive so much data through a JTAG cable < 1379831628 953236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is jtag exactly, i just sort of plug my usb in and things happen < 1379831631 22781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self modification would be easier on a open source FPGA anyways; once they are made then you can do a lot of things that closed source FPGAs don't do. They could compete well with existing FPGAs and I expect both kinds would remain in business; a company that does both would make a lot of sales, I suppose. < 1379831636 609449 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for asking so many questions btw < 1379831651 975006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's OK < 1379831653 795796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should not be sorry for asking so many questions btw. < 1379831663 137342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :noted. < 1379831668 753019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and JTAG's just a cable design + port shape, like RS232 or USB or whatever < 1379831676 378805 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's it stand for? < 1379831679 328679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's what's normally used to program hardware < 1379831687 802157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know, but Wikipedia probably does < 1379831692 135238 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1379831697 475863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never really needed to know < 1379831703 45919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joint Test Action Group" < 1379831705 494072 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember that < 1379831722 340012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joint Test Action Group (JTAG) is the common name for the IEEE 1149.1 Standard Test Access Port and Boundary-Scan Architecture. It was initially devised by electronic engineers for testing printed circuit boards using boundary scan and is still widely used for this application." < 1379831723 208848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, apparently < 1379831731 751397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, it's used for hardware debuggers < 1379831744 996893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's used for programming too < 1379831758 336833 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense. similar things. < 1379831765 8328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, to debug hardware, you shift all the values out of its debug registers, and shift the test pattern for the next cycle in at the same time < 1379831777 125346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :replace "debug register" with "program register" and now you have a programmer < 1379831795 855432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1379831811 594784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although typically that's a stupid way to implement it and the programming circuits are entirely different < 1379831821 463688 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379831829 927849 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you do anything with analog for your jobgradstudentthing? < 1379831838 504502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is the example I gave anything like what you meant by recursive module instantiation, and do you expect such a thing would work? < 1379831856 640170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well it's in a syntax I don't recognise < 1379831863 273107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, it's all entirely digital < 1379831866 308140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1379831887 744862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did a bunch of analog for my masters degree, though < 1379831892 886370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not on FPGAs < 1379831925 866860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, our plan for the analog stuff was hilarious < 1379831934 789655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we needed to do Fourier analysis and the like < 1379831943 329331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, after the module name is the parameters in parentheses, followed by the I/O vector, and then, if ORing all bits together in the macro parameter results in the bit being set, it will call the module again with one less. < 1379831964 610340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so our plan was just "let's get a microcontroller fast enough to do the processing, with the best-quality A to D we can afford" < 1379832009 487693 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, i made the mistake of looking up the school boards' ethernet hardware. don't understand a lick of it, and here i was thinking i knew how adcs worked < 1379832026 647967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think that bit of the design is the bit that failed < 1379832028 514404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looked up one of the terms used and it was a circuit thing invented by somebody who worked on squid axons in the 30s. insane < 1379832077 271295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the most common adc design is just a dac in a negative feedback loop < 1379832105 673759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't bother, i already found out i don't understand anything :( < 1379832142 761810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Then you must learn. < 1379832145 512892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was all excited to program my fpga to specifically annoy elliott < 1379832208 288650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Does this description of the syntax help you to understand it? < 1379832241 440118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379832317 960419 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah i'm just being dramatic. apparently the basis of much of modern technology isn't simple?? ripoff imo. < 1379832359 780958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can you please be more specific in your question? < 1379832375 955182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well there isn't a description that I can see < 1379832389 393203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you missed it; it is written above. < 1379832416 458063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will repeat it: After the module name is the parameters in parentheses, followed by the I/O vector, and then, if ORing all bits together in the macro parameter results in the bit being set, it will call the module again with one less. < 1379832434 787035 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now did you see? < 1379832455 543991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a bit of a complex special case < 1379832491 245420 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one that wouldn't fit the sort of recursion I actually needed (I needed to instantiate two modules, each with half the bits) < 1379832546 608437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that isn't it, although you could make it to do that too. < 1379832568 111051 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you have an implicit parameter it could < 1379832599 219328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like implicit parameters < 1379832610 717807 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I accidentally sequence broke in Antichamber < 1379832612 231066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be explicit too < 1379832627 468836 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a carry-select adder as a simple recursive example, maybe < 1379832669 16801 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a shitty design but probably simple to understand? < 1379832680 684364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, i can understand it < 1379832737 379914 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :MODULE !X(?COUNT) .X: BEGIN IF ?COUNT=1: BEGIN ... END ELSE: BEGIN !X(?COUNT/#2) .X[?COUNT/#2-1:0]; ... Of course this is incomplete but maybe it is understandable a bit < 1379832751 6119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably wouldn't be quite exactly like this either < 1379832757 658467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know exactly how you mean, either < 1379832828 901657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is this a little bit close? Clearly it isn't quite sufficient; even the parts that aren't omitted are incomplete. < 1379832844 270581 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this syntax is hard to read and i kind of automatically hate it? < 1379832887 218485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well it's not as simple as my description in practice either < 1379832912 640115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I wouldn't expect it to be; both of us just give the examples < 1379832994 812509 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's less than a week away now < 1379833008 264497 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the apocalypse? < 1379833014 145007 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of < 1379833019 420039 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me moving to York < 1379833019 650760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equinox? < 1379833033 162550 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, wasn't the equinox the day before yesterday? < 1379833044 368904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No. < 1379833074 448947 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it was yesterday < 1379833076 48275 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... < 1379833084 368707 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually watched sunrise on the equinox < 1379833091 41114 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then went to an anime con < 1379833103 723382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it wasn't yesterday. < 1379833136 483726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 22 Sep at 20:44 GMT. < 1379833157 702246 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god that's today < 1379833162 414388 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's moving forwards < 1379833194 144821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why we have leap years. < 1379833229 5340 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I've eaten in the last 24 hours is a small chocolate cake < 1379833242 562558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the cake good < 1379833246 271295 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1379833248 195111 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it was < 1379833258 419185 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a cosplay maid service < 1379833294 298873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I calculated the equinox using the horoscope in my computer; just now I also checked on Wikipedia to confirm and it says the same thing. < 1379833561 462342 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Astrolog, the indications of ecliptic longitudes are colored according to the classical element they are associated with, making it very easy to see where it changes. < 1379833628 997235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some printed calendars also indicate exactly when the equinox is, but the one I have doesn't have that. < 1379833941 19726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What anime con was that? < 1379833958 599567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not gone to anime this year, but I did last year and may do so again next year. < 1379834099 77859 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, it was just a small local one < 1379834103 297879 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chibi Sunny < 1379834118 626941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a smaller spin-off from one of the larger local ones < 1379834152 709734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they have mahjong there? Some anime conventions sometimes have mahjong. Once I brought my Washizu mahjong game to an anime convention and played against one of the other people there < 1379834203 137401 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they did not < 1379834211 747036 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot recall ever seeing mahjong at an anime con < 1379834218 24749 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Go at one, though < 1379834285 711587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw shogi at one, not as a scheduled event though but something someone was doing in their spare time in the games room. I have read about ones with mahjong but haven't seen it except when I brought it once < 1379834304 942602 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever been to an anime con < 1379834309 221462 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not entirely sure < 1379834356 552336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once won a Magic: the Gathering tournament in an anime convention, although due to one of my opponents conceding an entire match, my score was not entered into the computer correctly. < 1379834378 84663 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have lost (and gotten last place) in all other M:tG tournaments I have ever played in. < 1379834597 756883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Why aren't you sure? < 1379834733 949331 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have gone to M:tG tournaments at conventions mostly and have not paid attention to the convention itself < 1379834746 521715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Do you know how to play shogi or mahjong though? Do you know how to play Washizu mahjong (from the "Akagi" manga)? < 1379834761 684604 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know at all < 1379834763 429724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Constructed, Limited, or both? < 1379834774 146694 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even play solitaire mahjong < 1379834776 190784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I go to the convention I do pay attention to the other things too < 1379834829 137528 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379834902 411744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, solitaire mahjong can be explained in only a few sentences pretty easily. Mahjong is more complicated (although the same tiles are used). < 1379834924 504669 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am the worst at Go < 1379834945 779076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at Go either, but at least I can play. Can you play shogi at all? < 1379834953 618062 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1379834961 824162 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I actually know what shogi is < 1379834965 218364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any manga by Fukumoto? < 1379834970 557972 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1379835005 568984 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Shogi is a Japanese game which is like chess, although using flat pieces, the owner is known by the direction rather than the color, on a 9x9 board, and once you capture an opponent's piece you can on a later turn, put it back in the board as your own piece. < 1379835088 125917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can promote pieces by moving them into, out of, or through the back three rows of the board < 1379835105 269790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although most pieces just promote into golds, which aren't amazingly good, so promoting them isn't as worthwhile as in Western chess < 1379835106 28558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played tsume shogi games on GameBoy and I like those kind of games (especially the one by Athena). They are like a chess puzzle, but with shogi, and you must give check on every turn. I have solved a lot of them but not nearly even half of them yet. < 1379835117 85395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that too. < 1379835134 768090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shogi pieces promote to whatever is on the other side of the piece, rather than the choice like in FIDE. < 1379835170 738061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there's some rule that you can't drop pawns to give or block checkmate, or something like that; I can't remember the details but zzo38 probably knows < 1379835189 786922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot drop a pawn to give checkmate (you can give check, though). < 1379835199 31883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379835200 141469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other pieces can be dropped to give checkmate. < 1379835208 650836 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no rule against dropping a pawn to block a checkmate? < 1379835220 58089 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, there is no rule against that. < 1379835230 688086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that rule against dropping pawns to give checkmate seems oddly specific < 1379835237 767237 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why it exists, there's probably a good reason < 1379835254 691943 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another rule for pawn drops is you cannot do so if there is already another of your own unpromoted pawn in the same column. < 1379835296 552325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that one makes more sense though < 1379835310 268476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can't move a piece in such a way that it would be unable to move further < 1379835321 113921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know, but at least it does make interesting situations for some tsume shogi. < 1379835321 971694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you move a pawn to the back rank, or a knight to the back two ranks, you must promote it < 1379835332 94747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that is correct too; you must promote it and cannot drop it there < 1379835361 744917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dropping a piece in the promotion zone isn't enough to promote it < 1379835365 848881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(otherwise people would do that all the time) < 1379835393 90141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is also correct. It must move. < 1379835481 149148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the kind of situations I describe means that the defending player should not always promote a piece that is strictly more powerful when promoted (flying chariot (rook) and angle mover (bishop)) < 1379835516 767294 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not a very good strategist < 1379835555 601866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a good strategist for some games. < 1379835569 450225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(including Dungeons&Dragons game, but also including some computer games) < 1379835736 58957 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, have you ever heard of the tabletop RPG Diana: Warrior Princess? < 1379835740 306440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some people on this channel who did not know mahjong once said it is as confusing as Mornington Crescent. Well, I can tell you that it isn't. (Search the logs) < 1379835744 847650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: No. < 1379835753 896894 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a silly one < 1379835772 747941 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The premise is "What if Xena: Warrior Princess was made in 2000 years time and set in the present day?" < 1379835797 849277 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try to GM it when I get to uni < 1379835988 783193 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I sometimes overSicilian them. < 1379836068 45563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want your character to worship the god who shall not be named because it is difficult to pronounce? < 1379836192 740069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the god of my character, at least. < 1379836524 846804 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I gave the DM several suggestions that would make the game much more difficult, he has suggestion I design the campaign templates and then he will adjust it to his use. I partially do so; some things I purposefully keep hidden from myself! < 1379836549 233146 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379836657 745812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though he makes up situations which he believes to have no solution, somehow I always find them anyways; he isn't being "diabolical" enough (when I explained things to him even in contexts completely unrelated to the game, he has called my ideas "extremely diabolical" simply because he cannot think of it himself, I suppose). < 1379836673 696538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he is an intelligent person! < 1379836696 508534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it? < 1379836770 839303 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'd enjoy being in a game GM'd by you, I'd probably get trapped in a small room with a hatch 40 feet up with only a rake < 1379836831 616155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you managed to do so, it would probably be your own fault for not being sufficiently careful. < 1379836844 95521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for making incorrect assumptions. < 1379836845 729374 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not so hard; it depends on how many toothpicks you are given. < 1379837086 274786 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday there was a team Adventure Time quiz < 1379837102 716033 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my team neither of us had actually watched Adventure Time < 1379837108 479742 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We scored I think 8/12 < 1379837208 864011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that I have invented some puzzles on computer games, where the people who wrote the rules for the game, also being very good at the puzzles, gave up after several tries. < 1379837264 393644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even viewing the source codes for the puzzles, which I encouraged; this tends to deceive people even more despite being written clearly.) < 1379837363 43993 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some kind of puzzle games that I am very good at. (Others I am pretty bad at, however.) < 1379837531 587292 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379837650 88703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incorrect assumptions are made, such as: Healing potions and kill enemies potions are good for you, wind potions are bad for you, BIG_MONSTER is evil and you should kill them, certain objects cannot be pushed, a key should be collected right away, Hell is not in Norway, most rooms have yellow walls, and other things. < 1379838308 775941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379839025 977150 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379839104 106005 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379842479 205881 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379843205 598479 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379843603 566163 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Hell in Jamaica < 1379843813 233917 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cayman Islands, sorry < 1379844296 595984 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379845016 56421 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379845241 413059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1379845643 917264 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379845767 612667 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379848970 10447 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catpad.net/michael/apl/ < 1379849853 273439 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379851592 143316 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379851606 674958 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-157-40.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379851822 690292 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-176-243.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379852131 841671 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-142-217.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379852136 95901 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379852138 298644 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379852163 871286 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-176-243.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379852169 686386 :atriq!~nathan@host-92-30-142-217.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379852364 583010 :Taneb!~nathan@host-92-30-142-217.as13285.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1379852469 117754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379852484 574761 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-142-217.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379853148 317987 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1379857575 221920 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379857675 840780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1379858989 261032 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-195-50.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379859086 723124 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-142-217.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379859336 354590 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-201-31.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379859476 859860 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-201-31.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379859495 830760 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-195-50.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379860312 654319 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-201-31.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379860317 372708 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-143-238.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379860487 216695 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379860489 925961 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1379860491 38667 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Al Zimmermann has announced his latest Programming Contest "Graceful Graphs" http://azspcs.net/Contest/GracefulGraphs < 1379860498 348217 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone entering? < 1379860878 220474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it, can't you just have a depth one tree with 0 as the root < 1379860988 31773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you don't need the vertex labels to be contiguous, i gues < 1379861169 475784 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears to be the same problem as optimal sparse rulers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_ruler < 1379861348 14015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isn't Hell in Jamaica <-- no it is most definitely in norway. just had their yearly blues festival. < 1379861807 204436 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1379863631 354464 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-192-170.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379863734 173082 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-143-238.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379864142 868801 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379865418 904811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379865747 302886 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379866050 306649 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379866354 784279 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-192-170.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1379866357 855279 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-120-152.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379866756 966096 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-23-120-152.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379867138 649961 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1379867613 286780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379868291 364917 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379868729 249403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother has suggested that the "Attribute Zone" game might be easier to understand if played on an actual NES/Famicom system. < 1379869209 640965 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-23-120-152.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379870148 259595 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1379871644 52163 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379873305 583704 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379874117 308737 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I dunno < 1379874775 236809 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379874992 151996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Then what do you think it is? < 1379875000 561780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be more likely? < 1379875014 606343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about it at all anyways? < 1379875019 634019 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you programmed Famicom? < 1379875067 179913 :Taneb!~Taneb@92.30.154.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379875465 895997 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1379875552 847348 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379875588 782167 :Taneb!~Taneb@92.30.154.255 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1379875594 789378 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379875759 500139 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm pretty sure I've done constructed < 1379875767 63678 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've done limited < 1379875791 232181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You haven't done Limited? I only do Limited. < 1379876152 524254 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at a convention < 1379876207 994783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conventions I was in offer both kinds < 1379876456 325834 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379877215 914037 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 257 seconds < 1379877232 923963 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379877428 650680 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379877453 362310 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379877483 99242 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379877922 456784 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379878197 137595 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379878915 482379 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379879763 930511 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379879783 708826 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :in prolog grt_than(sucC(0), 0). grt_than(sucC(A), sucC(B)) :- grt_than(A, B). I don't see why grt_than(sucC(sucC(0)),0). is false < 1379879840 797439 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the difference is false < 1379879850 371983 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grt_than(suc(X),0). < 1379879853 163409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1379879856 309095 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is greater than 1 < 1379879863 280341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't look completed to me < 1379879872 888476 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just say < 1379879875 438104 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 > 0 < 1379879893 249510 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 > 0 => 2 > 1 < 1379879900 889096 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you never say that 2 > 0 < 1379879904 471452 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1379879914 38328 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The new Al Zimmermann programming contest seems easier than usual. Unless I've missed something http://azpcs.net < 1379879925 826804 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to figure out how to do this with only 2 clauses < 1379879937 901776 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:57:29 grt_than(suc(X),0). < 1379879948 125341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANY successor is greater than 0 < 1379879953 839928 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1379879955 846617 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1379879981 316997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose that would make it completed. < 1379879983 910585 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1379880008 229277 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like the idea of prolog, but i'm just plain stupid when it comes to io < 1379880036 622435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i made a valid deadfish interpreter in prolog, but i'm too dumb to process strings :D < 1379880060 715880 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the wiki is none last time i checked < 1379880351 627824 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Wolfram Alpha is really useful for answering mathematical trivia questions. < 1379880372 761639 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "what is the ratio of the surface areas of the moon and the earth" < 1379880606 743117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vorpal catches up with the world circa 4 years ago < 1379880632 232899 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I never really found a use for W|A until now indeed < 1379880658 714033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless numerical trivia is basically the primary feature of WA < 1379880679 998648 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that and solving integrals for homework < 1379880768 988843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unit conversions are also convenient. and good for homework. < 1379880814 430149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unit conversions are basically a subset of numerical trivia < 1379880882 497799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I wonder if anything is going to break real bad if I just dd-clone a GPT disk (1T, partitions on the first 240G, rest unallocated) onto a smaller (512G) disk, and then swap it in place of the original. (E.g. is the disk size recorded in the GPT disklabel or something.) < 1379880920 102939 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there's GUIDs < 1379880932 71799 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not meant to duplicate a GPT disk like that because the identifiers are meant to be unique or whatever < 1379880950 572159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it'll actually explode as long as you don't let the original disk within a ten mile radius, but there are scary warnings telling you it's bad around the internet. < 1379880958 904015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. < 1379880971 676625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably GPT-specific cloning tools that correctly reassign identifiers and stuff? < 1379880993 475549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, I could just recreate the partitions with gdisk, they'd get random GUIDs. < 1379881006 386607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm wondering is if that'd mess up the Windows living on the disk. < 1379881216 818564 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I suspect you would need the GUIDs to not vary if you want Windows to work, as for doing it to a smaller disk, do the partitions fit on the smaller disk? < 1379881225 256671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1379881234 883640 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(240 is less than 512.) < 1379881275 272445 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you are not allowed to connect both drives in the same device after you cloned the disk, at least Windows will not like it. < 1379881281 958675 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what actually happens if you try it < 1379881289 442413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not an issue. < 1379881303 119406 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could try cloning it, and see if it works < 1379881305 82222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could dd over the network so that the two disks are never in a single computer simultaneously. < 1379881312 865882 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't, then you could just try cloning it another way < 1379881321 31924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's that. < 1379881332 262759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why are you moving to a smaller disk btw? < 1379881347 454474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 512G disk is a SSD, the 1T disk is not. < 1379881388 195310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's list of GPT headers doesn't seem to have any size information, though it mentions there's a copy of the disklabel "somewhere". (With my luck, at the opposite end of the disk.) < 1379881392 919642 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Ah, Windows may or may not like a change like that. At least I doubt it will be using TRIM properly unless you change some settings < 1379881420 919808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The values for current and backup LBAs of the primary header should be the second sector of the disk and the last sector of the disk" well naturally. < 1379881440 204118 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379881440 544006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could try use some sort of proper Windows solution of backup-reinstall-restore. < 1379881448 941332 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good luck with that < 1379881500 975940 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what about putting GPT disks into RAID 1? Surely that means that there are technically duplicate disks? < 1379881546 257822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if both disks have their own GPT disklabel and different partitions that work as the RAID backing-storage. < 1379881556 434918 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I meant hardware RAID 1 < 1379881577 380758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's no problem since it's not something the OS logically sees? < 1379881585 539188 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1379881606 794919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess OSes are in their right to store a map from the GUIDs to every physical thing about the disk they know. < 1379881618 487280 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in theory things could explode. < 1379881639 621708 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it probably won't, except that TRIM might not be used automatically < 1379881642 747464 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is my guess < 1379881655 626638 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrt the backup block at the end though, hrrm < 1379881685 155512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154057 < 1379881693 768233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't read it, just saw the title on searching < 1379881695 448753 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyway perhaps you should clone the disk and then smash the old one to pieces. < 1379881702 332256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :think of it like teleportation. < 1379881754 531779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of lifehacker.com guide about migrating Windows to a smaller SSD drive, that seems a Windows-native solution < 1379881767 485920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just for backup, keep it < 1379881792 695867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it seems there are issues with migrating to a smaller disk indeed < 1379881818 856953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that seems to use some sort of "EaseUS Todo Backup" software that I'm not terribly sure I want to bother with. < 1379881866 128442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does claim that rerunning the Windows Experience Assessment will turn on TRIM and stuff like that. < 1379882052 91426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some other guide that uses Windows' own "create a system image" backup tool, then reinstalls Windows on the SSD and does a system restore. I suppose my options are either trying the clone thing (with whatever GPT backup disklabel move with gpt expert options nonsense) or something like that. < 1379882147 625330 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah it seems like that link I posted shows you how to solve it wrt. dd < 1379882185 808840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I guess you would need to do this if you expand the disk too < 1379882426 567450 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379882709 323414 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379882775 321719 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379882775 692786 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379882776 376194 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net NICK :Koen < 1379883330 19575 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379883472 828005 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379883551 51040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm...!!! < 1379884095 660767 :Zathur!~Zathur---@151.pool85-60-235.dynamic.orange.es JOIN :#esoteric < 1379884324 874298 :Zathur!~Zathur---@151.pool85-60-235.dynamic.orange.es PART #esoteric :"Saliendo" < 1379884341 859449 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379885007 158287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379885109 508858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few days of Z-Comp remains, actually. < 1379885140 216770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how to hack HackEgo back? >:) < 1379885221 236933 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, Fiora Homestuck update < 1379885225 885749 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379885240 776644 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo's missing < 1379885242 716924 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379885259 418723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know, but things like `slist can still be used, and will work if they are filtered on the client-side instead of server-side. < 1379885279 506493 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1379885279 895977 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379885305 929953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will still enter `danddreclist when it is updated even though HackEgo won't respond, so if you want to be notified you have to configure your client to do so instead, please. < 1379885380 627244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1379885380 649762 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379885535 681322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, the lists are gone? < 1379885586 639686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is gone. < 1379885599 295724 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a worthwhile sacrifice < 1379885656 905973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like exile, really. < 1379885700 99390 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379885736 673899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is still connected though so it can still be accessed. < 1379885762 302665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the lists can still be used like how I described. (In fact I described it even before HackEgo was gone but you didn't believe me.) < 1379885806 191254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't disbelieve you. i just didn't see the point. < 1379885828 805548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, now you should see the point. < 1379885940 156375 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going now < 1379885943 392365 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-183-83.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379886231 701993 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379888274 357513 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1379888344 754184 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the guru still meditating? < 1379888395 287586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What guru? < 1379888597 278614 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1379889891 673310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp, that's passing strange: the clone method seems to have worked. < 1379890387 602159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you cloning < 1379890435 279913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 1T HDD with a GPT disklabel, Windows 8 and EFI boot stuffs for Debian, onto a 512GB SSD. < 1379890440 351610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sordid details are in the log. < 1379890464 521955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1379891087 253743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow riot for new zero kanada < 1379891245 266407 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379891640 534995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a new /topic, this one has lasted alarmingly long < 1379891714 428769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1379892565 245150 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1379892681 635803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i reading wp's list of common false etymologies < 1379892681 781054 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all cringeworthy acronyms < 1379892800 925736 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1379892806 636496 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_false_etymologies < 1379892822 543114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're not all acronyms but they're all cringeworthy) < 1379892896 833359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now make a list of cringeworthy _true_ etymologies. < 1379892923 205289 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 TOPIC #esoteric :topic undergoing maintenance < 1379893084 681806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what's that "norwegian fukka" the article mentions, i suspect that should be old norse instead. < 1379893110 311312 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1379893110 529092 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379893125 777158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric Phantom_Hoover :He removed the log link < 1379893132 287967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1379893132 318693 NAMES :#esoteric < 1379893148 247185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :topic undergoing maintenance | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric < 1379893235 587386 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379893261 928992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379893752 276351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: wow, so bored on a sunday afternoon that you're picking fights with internet libertarians? ;) < 1379893771 358086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :try librarians instead. < 1379893917 691106 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1379895484 791872 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: lol < 1379895495 894353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :genuinely curious how people explain things like that < 1379895505 554438 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boredom or libertarianism < 1379895506 127779 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have plenty of explanations I'd propose, but am still wondering < 1379895616 638687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the question "why do libertarians tend to be well-off white dudes" cause I don't think that one is very difficult to explain < 1379895730 812980 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1379895745 622054 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379895807 846161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think of futarchy, copumpkin < 1379895838 162760 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed QUIT :*.net *.split < 1379895846 232698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that some sort of japanese thing < 1379895900 311341 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: seems interesting < 1379895900 877124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's something something prediction markets < 1379895918 458294 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try to put my finger on a concern though, or read more and find it's handled :P < 1379896019 745824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/ wat < 1379896046 924746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of voting on policies, you vote to determine a social utility function, and then use prediction markets to pursue policies which maximize that utility function < 1379896057 821196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much more than that summary, but it's a cool idea anyway < 1379896123 690063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, can you not just print it really small < 1379896144 451483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the point of a business card you can't read! < 1379896153 110687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool 'cause it uses the ability of markets to optimize stuff, but without the libertarian assumption that what markets optimize 'by default' is fair or good < 1379896182 656095 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :my concern is that it isn't just gov't that could affect the things being bet on < 1379896192 317945 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could create perverse private incentives to make programs fail < 1379896231 569650 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this page calls typedef "define" and a struct a class. okay, then < 1379896271 561490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, !v for normalization < 1379896315 994480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well struct and class are nearly the same in C++ < 1379896339 137592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference is that structs have public visibility by default, while class has private visibility < 1379896351 253905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i didn't think you could have inheritance with structs < 1379896360 515287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably the author used 'struct{' because it's shorter than 'class{public:' < 1379896372 860047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, you can do all the same things < 1379896435 121530 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: true < 1379896498 774137 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: This also means that class{public: ... } is just a struct. :) < 1379896519 691717 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming no methods. < 1379896560 70715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ has this separate concept of "Plain Old Data" for things that are like C structs, but they can still have (non-virtual) methods < 1379896616 353609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably a lot of C structs are not Plain Old Data either, it's just that the language provides no way to express this < 1379896754 237803 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379896765 854403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example you might say that it should be safe and reasonable to clone a POD object with a simple memcpy(), which does not hold for many C structs < 1379896796 693866 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what? < 1379896800 562330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's part of the generally used definitions of POD, though < 1379896848 18563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: say your struct contains a pointer to a reference-counted object < 1379896862 755564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to increment the refcount when you copy the struct and hence the pointer < 1379896929 250054 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C++ you would express this by using a smart pointer (like std::shared_ptr) for the field, which will make the struct non-POD < 1379896935 390774 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so like, semantics < 1379896951 646510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the neat thing is that the default constructor and destructor in C++ will still do the right thing < 1379896961 780191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i thought not being able to memcpy at all < 1379896982 974887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379897027 580093 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am bad at c++ < 1379897044 471964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ is so cool < 1379897114 334094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ugly and archaic and it's complex to the point of being nearly unusable, but everything does fit together and exist for a reason < 1379897125 500277 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my favorite esolang. < 1379897128 754645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1379897135 903204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did you get that meme from me?) < 1379897139 527676 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: money is just too powerful! :P < 1379897151 987991 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably, but the sentiment was just too good to leave to one man) < 1379897172 179220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1379897176 311401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :memes want to spread < 1379897213 557961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might try to design an esolang with region pointers, once I learn how the hell they work < 1379897227 548631 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379897235 276370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :region pointers? < 1379897273 727873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust's "borrowed pointers" have a "region" or "lifetime" attached which says how long the pointer is guaranteed to remain valid < 1379897280 320940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's part of the type < 1379897300 649303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually inferred, but you can name them if you want, which means you can return these things as well as take them as arguments < 1379897343 749585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct Foo { x: int } fn f<'t>(foo: &'t Foo) -> &'t int { &foo.x } < 1379897356 836882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes a pointer to a Foo, returns a pointer to the int inside, which is valid as long as the original pointer was < 1379897374 452755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1379897386 181644 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm with you re: not knowing how the hell they work < 1379897398 552795 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust <3 < 1379897434 569477 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379897439 994356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since they're like type parameters you can also parametrize data over them, e.g. to make a vector iterator which is parametrized over how long the original vector lives < 1379897554 443020 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds pretty serious for an esolang, though < 1379897583 177288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Rust they also track mutability; if you have a borrowed pointer of the immutable sort, you know that nobody else can mutate the object while you're using it through that pointer < 1379897613 482455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aliasing rules are strict enough to guarantee that < 1379897653 592403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so if you borrow a mutable thing as immutable, the compiler will "freeze" it for the duration of the borrow, which is a static typechecker thing except for garbage-collected stuff, which needs to be frozen dynamically < 1379897694 298936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: well it might be an esolang or it might just be a toy language for my understanding < 1379897702 612267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on whether it can be made interestingly perverse < 1379897713 726894 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Region-C or Region-fuck. < 1379897718 622658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example what if the only data you have is region pointers, and you need to do basic arithmetic using regions somehow < 1379897728 10854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know enough about it to say whether that is a coherent idea < 1379897733 834376 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how do you distinguish between eso and toy? < 1379897762 700468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs are designed to be interestingly weird and difficult to use < 1379897773 763379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379897779 618212 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... where is J? < 1379897788 108738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't consider Brainfuck to be a "true esolang" because although it's very minimal, and hard to use for that reason, the concepts it uses are straightforward and familiar < 1379897801 238538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was designed not to be difficult but to have a very simple compiler < 1379897828 786321 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that definition of esolang is way too restrictive IMO < 1379897830 744066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :J isn't supposed to be difficult to use. < 1379897859 182686 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if APL counts as weird in context. I mean, A Programming Language didn't have a whole lot of competition. < 1379897864 509000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379897867 52207 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to mention, Brainfuck is fairly easy to target. < 1379897925 999415 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should write an article on the wiki on Chaitin's "lisp-with-apl-character-set" bullshit and that can be my first article. < 1379897951 267095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the whole compiling to diophantine equations thing is pretty esoteric. < 1379897968 537390 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hell? < 1379897980 145086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1379898072 839055 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why should anybody wants to ADD apl character set to something? < 1379898092 133771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not added. There aren't alphanumeric characters. Or multi-character identifiers. < 1379898100 725444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hope this helps) < 1379898146 478597 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379898147 643673 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should rewatch the ending of season two of ATLA < 1379898147 895100 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379898477 777287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379898971 906182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that < 1379899955 838572 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379900016 547339 :augur_!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net NICK :augur < 1379900261 153499 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379900586 238386 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379901215 616643 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379901550 595635 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :_o/'`\o_ < 1379901550 781922 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69 |    | < 1379901550 927481 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69/<   /`\ < 1379901588 763355 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that right one looks like he got a boner < 1379901597 829549 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's raising his dongers < 1379901639 617655 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of people on efnet used to hate on me because they thought i was you btw. just sayin :) < 1379901652 389252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1379901658 281309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never was on efnet < 1379901669 73835 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be one of the nets with another myname < 1379901669 644261 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, must be a different person with the same nick then < 1379901688 102444 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am surprised i got it here tbh < 1379901700 815490 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other myname was a script kiddie, at least at one point < 1379901712 222818 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1379901715 349056 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, please turn off the `? stick figure < 1379901722 491026 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? < 1379901726 45944 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1379901754 321184 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego has been kicked for now, but you know the one i mean < 1379901754 788039 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: either way, this is gonna get confusing, hahaha < 1379901761 866352 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't, actually < 1379901765 705417 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what was bound to `? < 1379901772 194602 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379901772 547705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            | < 1379901772 695392 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          º¯`\o < 1379901777 876662 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one. < 1379901822 477491 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, you mean the whole script? or just that smiley < 1379901833 903288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that smiley < 1379901843 97749 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that? < 1379902285 92786 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it triggers whenever hackego turns up a blank in the wisdom db, and triples the line count < 1379902647 368816 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed JOIN :#esoteric < 1379902820 748454 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379902854 732813 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a hackego problem to me :P i can block that line or something if you like < 1379902873 97180 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379902906 96807 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379902906 286280 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1379902906 286364 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  º¯`\o < 1379902985 909504 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i see < 1379902993 671416 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what hackego is supposed to do in most cases :P < 1379903037 129446 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69\o/ \o/ < 1379903053 325190 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make any line ignored by leading it with ^k69^o < 1379903062 949115 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what it's worth < 1379903130 355101 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, anywhere in the line now. should be simple enough to tack on the end or something for specific cases < 1379903141 88725 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \o/69 < 1379903196 20431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the typical solution to block HackEgo from your bot < 1379903213 904515 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would, but people store things in it that are intended to trigger my thing too < 1379903229 3543 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ignore thing was already there, i use it for other stuff < 1379903314 936378 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1379903333 16505 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix YOUR bot, dick. < 1379903337 84913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PART :#esoteric < 1379903343 569439 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :har. < 1379903406 446772 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :well my solutions are: ignore hackego entirely (undesirable), disable that specific smiley (undesirable), write code to ignore that specific line (undesirable), disable entirely (undesirable) < 1379903426 729886 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared with essentially saying 'i explicitly don't want this particular smiley to trigger the thing' < 1379903447 534173 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is desirable. < 1379903459 109283 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1379903460 912825 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if anybody WANTS your bot to respond to HackEgo, it is THEY who are undesirable. < 1379903465 746723 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1379903469 820651 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking about things like `celebrate < 1379903482 771136 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the `? deal < 1379903492 942715 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand by my previous statement. < 1379903496 709578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1379903566 373815 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \o/ < 1379903573 672361 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly mirc < 1379903625 488988 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aoeu < 1379903627 396401 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :aoeu? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379903642 999891 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :all set \o/ < 1379903643 162493 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1379903643 308456 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         >\ < 1379903993 804560 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379904850 163616 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379905142 866025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fights the urge to pick fights with Haskell zealots on Twitter, which is still more sensible than copumpkin picking fights with libertarians
< 1379905150 698317 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379905163 379572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskelliots < 1379905178 413964 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't really get kmc's anti-haskell-community revelation
< 1379905200 223923 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are zealots but just avoid them and take all the good, smart people who spend all their time learning about cool new stuff < 1379905205 435287 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not frothing at the mouth :P < 1379905214 645057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I found it very hard to avoid them in #haskell < 1379905231 691168 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-lens is quite pleasant < 1379905233 715265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there are other outposts of "Haskell community" which are better < 1379905255 668215 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's supposedly about lenses < 1379905263 496440 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize it's actually #haskell-edwardk < 1379905265 67241 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but has ended up being just a friendly place to talk about cool stuff < 1379905266 9112 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379905269 135095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did join a while back < 1379905269 874285 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but everyone else uses it < 1379905275 34800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but left when my client restarted or something ;P < 1379905281 910819 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hasn't been around much recently < 1379905295 208936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my specific complaint lately is "Rust doesn't have higher-order polymorphism? well it must be shit and I will repeat that opinion forever without bothering to learn anything else about it" < 1379905302 339050 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno if I would get that attitude in -lens or not < 1379905318 39737 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it, but shachaf is around more than I am < 1379905319 199051 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379905329 995249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I don't want higher-order polymorphism in Rust... < 1379905354 707610 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the haskellers I respect have stated that they find rust interesting and would probably use it for systems code < 1379905362 712930 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :the others haven't said anything much about it :P < 1379905365 343610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1379905386 663014 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep in mind that there's about 1 person in that group, and that's me < 1379905389 346089 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1379905390 544834 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1379905396 489270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ;P < 1379905409 756152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool if some of the many Haskell libraries that include C code could switch to Rust < 1379905415 291589 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1379905424 171774 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd just need some support in cabal for building rust code < 1379905424 345450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be cool to have a high level FFI between the languages, e.g. something which preserves algebraic types and memory management < 1379905426 891208 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love that < 1379905429 488169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379905446 154000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something I'd vaguely like to work on, but I'm probably too lazy to do anything more than a proof of concept < 1379905451 740746 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many high level FFIs even exist? < 1379905452 672363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rustc is such a moving target too < 1379905453 34938 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the feeling :) < 1379905460 835136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they have a fixed calling convention? < 1379905462 565221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may not be worth Cabal trying to sync up with it at present < 1379905468 775351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're only just getting rustpkg off the ground < 1379905492 738108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how fixed the Rust calling convention is, but you can also call in and out of Rust with the C calling convention < 1379905502 864136 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379905514 138068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Rust structs are defined to be C compatible < 1379905520 281056 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in unrelated news, i just learned a proper use of subgraph isomorphis. gotta get cracking on that eodermdrome interpreter now. < 1379905526 968872 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you on the rust team? < 1379905532 110705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's no need for C glue or "find the offset of everything" preprocessors a la hsc2hs < 1379905546 59175 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I'm working on Servo, which is the ~only big project in Rust besides rustc itself < 1379905549 644424 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379905556 34610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :D < 1379905594 152807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"or put another way, there are already eodermdrome interpreters running in the chemistry department" < 1379905603 56230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379905605 777369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so which application is this? < 1379905642 589317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well RPC mechanisms which allow nested key-value structures as values are pretty common < 1379905643 704026 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :big molecules are, unsurprisingly, represented as graphs. chemists sometimes want to search for submolecules. < 1379905647 15195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could consider that a high level FFI < 1379905679 49422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says it's a "common misconception" that it just does regex search on a linearized form, though. i shudder for chemoinformaticians < 1379905917 549649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: writing rustc in Rust is kind of questionable... on the other hand, writing the Rust runtime system in Rust is fucking awesome < 1379905933 804064 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet :) < 1379905935 975809 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Servo? < 1379905952 372483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new web layout / rendering engine with an emphasis on parallelism < 1379905961 783520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/servo < 1379905984 225157 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah < 1379905986 998694 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that < 1379906081 977737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also an emphasis on security through memory safety, eventually, but it's kind of a joke to claim that at the moment < 1379906095 842060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we use C libraries for a bunch of stuff, and lots of unsafe Rust code for various other reasons < 1379906102 81046 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906134 782065 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what part of servo do you work on? < 1379906153 806682 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever needs doing; it's a small team < 1379906159 620391 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906186 35650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most of the commits to date are from Rust people; having a separate team for Servo is a new thing < 1379906189 255799 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you have a full html parser in rust? < 1379906190 10249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course we still work together closely < 1379906198 261734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's one of the things we're using a C library for at present < 1379906200 965833 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379906228 808250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML / CSS parsing, image decoding, JavaScript are all in C < 1379906247 215029 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379906248 880762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we would like for it to all be Rust but the priority varies by component < 1379906266 941552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example we'd like to replace the CSS parser soon because it performs poorly (or rather, the CSS selector matching part of the library does) < 1379906283 85240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we'd like to replace image decoding soonish for security + robustness < 1379906300 25970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if an image decode fails within Rust code, we can easily catch that with the usual Rust task failure mechanisms and recover) < 1379906301 247915 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what HTML parser do you use? < 1379906308 689307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hubbub < 1379906312 60104 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379906319 178401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started working on Haskell bindings to hubbub years ago. I forget why. I gave up. < 1379906329 668136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's doubtful that we will ever replace SpiderMonkey with a production quality JavaScript engine in Rust < 1379906355 195026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause that's an incredible amount of work, plus the security benefits are murkier < 1379906481 627832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need to do something about the fact that new versions of SpiderMonkey have only a C++ API and not a C API :( < 1379906616 159255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust more than most languages could support a "first-class" C++ FFI, but it would still be a huge pain < 1379906655 737737 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes an FFI "first-class"? < 1379906715 145073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in this case I mean that we can map many C++ features to directly analogous Rust features, while most languages can't because they don't have any analogous feature < 1379906761 633542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if your C++ API uses RAII then it's hard to map it directly to most languages, but plausible that we could do this for Rust < 1379906769 14109 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1379906773 448894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the C++ spidermonkey API use C++y features? < 1379906784 584497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm told it does use RAII at least; I haven't looked into it < 1379906789 896847 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAII is running code when a variable goes out of scope? < 1379906799 210556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds like our job would be harder than just "auto-generate an extern "C" for each of these prototypes" < 1379906818 378586 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, hmm, guess not < 1379906831 486075 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it use exceptions? like. what happens if initialization fails < 1379906839 498271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the RAII idea is implemented by running code when an object is destroyed (which could happen by a variable going out of scope, yes) < 1379906842 740981 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I'm thinking is that in Tcl, you can have code run when a variable is unset, which includes if it goes out of scope < 1379906901 991861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: the core idea is that having some object represents that you've acquired some resource (e.g. opened a file or taken a lock) < 1379906927 357792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mutex m; { Lock l = m.lock(); ... } < 1379906943 558942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to call any unlock() method because it will happen automatically when you leave that scope, even if you leave due to an exception < 1379906967 968450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or by invoking 'return' deep inside some branching control flow) < 1379906993 165463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in this instance it's similar to Python's 'with' statement and other stuff in a lot of languages < 1379907029 690537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's more general because the object representing the acquired resource doesn't *have to* live on the stack with lifetime synced to a single function call < 1379907048 327106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can put that Lock in a heap allocated object < 1379907060 10110 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be doable in Tcl I think. And Tcl doesn't have automatic GC, although with most OO systems for Tcl including TclOO, you can specify destructors < 1379907076 617659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you want to refcount the retention of the lock, put it in a std::shared_ptr < 1379907080 57532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1379907080 680256 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, by 'most' I mean, I'm only certain about TclOO < 1379907088 104169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does Tcl free storage if not GC? < 1379907100 163207 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference counting. < 1379907104 987017 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, strings are GCed, sorry about that < 1379907106 816732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1379907109 821697 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, reference counted. < 1379907115 539396 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl's native value type, being strings, cannot be circularly referenced. < 1379907118 701082 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anything mutable (variables, namespaces) aren't GCed < 1379907129 791766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379907164 749262 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and strings are immutable < 1379907197 176204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it might be possible to map RAII nicely into refcounted systems with destructors < 1379907202 682420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't thought about it < 1379907245 553579 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of gc'd systems provide some kind of hook to call when something is destroyed < 1379907256 912617 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of a bad idea to use it for raii, though < 1379907258 190309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but if it's true GC, that doesn't happen at any particular time < 1379907260 545362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1379907276 52176 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it might just not happen at all sooooo < 1379907301 385248 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that destructors are not called in all situations (e.g. if the interpreter is destroyed)" < 1379907324 640279 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1379907333 851413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1379907356 502807 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should note that in Tcl, 'interpreter' is not synonymous with 'running program' < 1379907365 102976 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's not as lolzy as it sounds < 1379907371 815740 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still something sigkillable < 1379907387 899430 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Tcl program can invoke sub-interpreters < 1379907391 246847 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And control them < 1379907414 588685 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's how Tcl does threads < 1379908589 112617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379908639 998480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379908693 430965 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1379909018 368730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to frame you < 1379909143 163947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For what? < 1379909197 175539 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong sense of "frame" < 1379909250 642716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter what sense, it doesn't answer, what? < 1379909276 79478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this sense "for" is meaningless. < 1379909300 888395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why do you want to? < 1379909318 68697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's a great question. < 1379909449 599290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yours isn't a very good question. < 1379909503 472624 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1379911163 249311 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Numerology stuff is as silly as, if you had a computer program that calculates the MD5 hash of the current date/time and treats it as a machine code address and jumps to it. Isn't it? < 1379911196 160563 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is. < 1379911239 700611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe this comparison can even be used to make a idea to make a esolang) < 1379911487 158488 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a better kind of comparison (if there is one)? < 1379911552 110652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need a comparison because one time i saw a book about how santa was satan and was going to end the world, and it wasn't a joke < 1379911606 617048 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes some people do stupid things like that < 1379912022 221980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is certainly stupid but it doesn't seem to have a lot to do with numerology. < 1379912152 212571 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it was all based on numerology. s+a+n+t+a added up to 666 or whatever. < 1379912192 377739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course anagrams do too, then. < 1379912238 1886 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, so can things other than anagrams. Anagrams are one class of words that do.) < 1379912487 753888 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-119-73.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379912584 358107 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :These and other divinations can be described by two things: artificial correspondences, and the improper use of these correspondences. < 1379912603 760208 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379912912 305440 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379913350 625907 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379915777 443343 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Be careful with this message. Similar messages were used to steal people's personal information. Unless you trust the sender, don't click links or reply with personal information. " < 1379915787 247404 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I trust FedEx *sends personal info* < 1379915795 975711 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that message should be reworded? < 1379915943 483690 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe you shouldn't have sent them personal info :) < 1379915956 467775 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly that would depend on whether it really was fedex or not < 1379916141 935523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and send it to FedEx using the telephone book or whatever instead of that message perhaps. < 1379916167 303512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do not need the service from FedEx, then ignore the message and don't send your personal info. < 1379916597 154332 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-164-83.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379918064 364756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379918345 839012 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1379918376 728422 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1379918399 180818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do I sometimes get error about IRQ not less or equal? < 1379918412 190856 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does sdIv:;aL{l*h?[?Q4-xiYf9QSi3U&7edDCVZ3z I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379945215 418449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1108) I am curious to know, how many Wiccans hate daylight saving time compared to Roman Catholics? < 1379945222 808616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone requested a framing. < 1379945370 788530 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quote is added, the PDF updated, the yerba mate dranked, but what has DST got to do with Wicca? < 1379945454 803748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is all part of the zzo38 mystery < 1379945458 41576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote mystery < 1379945460 106410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :367) as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. < 1379945486 417398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm did i actually put a double space when i said that? < 1379945488 26603 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net TOPIC #esoteric :Topic undergoing maintenance | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1379945503 869305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs I am at Canada < 1379945529 78546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a manifestation of QILDSR. < 1379945537 458214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379945540 540748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quote Inter-Locutor Double-Spacing Reflex) < 1379945550 937831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1379945556 291422 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24462 < 1379945586 570427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed i didn't. < 1379945603 227633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '367s/ as i was filled with zzo38 mystery at the moment i saw quintopia: I am at Canada. < 1379945637 610843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spurrious mimic evolutionary double spacing, which means I probably misformated the quote... < 1379945822 225651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes < 1379945845 593424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes <-- WOW YOU WERE PSYCHIC < 1379945849 115464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1379945893 711639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have a bot absense number constancy situation. < 1379945930 145505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know where lambdie went? < 1379945930 330835 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you, with you standing around! the trial! what has gotten away with this! a top secret document has been left behind? marle lucca < 1379945939 281918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and then they will try to correct the spacing, and we must undo it < 1379945944 624202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I PSYCHIC TOO < 1379945986 836420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do I complain to if I want lambdabot back? < 1379946000 404129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott. < 1379946021 181222 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ↑ LAMBDABOT! NOW! please :) < 1379946081 585704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must regretfully point out that elliott has been idle for 8 hours. although may mean he'll wake up about now. < 1379946085 738317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+that < 1379946143 806666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime elliott < 1379946156 868238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms...
< 1379946236 608709 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is in the UK, which uses DST, so he's on UTC+0100, which is 5 hours later than here, so it's around 3:22pm there. < 1379946323 42168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you appear to be making the mistake of assuming sane sleeping schedules for #esoteric regulars. < 1379946364 435286 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: おはよう！ I managed to red that!| < 1379946367 123683 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :read* < 1379946372 197633 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, yes, it happened! =D < 1379946431 402295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well. I know for a fact that Taneb has sleep issues, and that my own schedule is sane, so with that population sample it's 50/50 either way with elliott. < 1379946473 814128 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: seems the Universe didn't collapse... < 1379946503 221147 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Not so far, anyway. Which is good. < 1379946716 546237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm this quote change happened at around the time i did a major formatting check on the quotes, so it quite possibly was my fault. < 1379946790 892775 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the end result was inconsequential. I happen to have read the quote, and having that dangling verb there made no sense, so I figured it was a single quote. < 1379946806 40792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it was my fault. < 1379946809 736437 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, I did have parsing trouble with the django shenanigans. < 1379946812 501185 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats himself -----###
< 1379946819 536464 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... that's a first! < 1379946820 558542 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Django daikasoku < 1379946830 565169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's incredibly intentional. < 1379946834 651118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no it's not. < 1379946856 256486 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: infâme et odieux personnage que tu es! how dare you earworm me on a Monday Morning! < 1379946879 819053 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puHyO5JNOE0 < 1379946881 310215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it... happened before? fascinating. < 1379946892 272078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: won't click. < 1379946900 283852 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a remix, really < 1379946907 835848 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, more of a mashup, I guess < 1379946908 803284 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least for the next hour. I'm einstein on the beaching my ears) < 1379946995 511342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've been stupid before, you know. < 1379947043 896334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs swats himself < 1379947044 324946 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379947057 725993 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1379947062 827784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.600 < 1379947157 779403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs swats herself < 1379947163 399144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even a pre-lengthening one. < 1379947176 32489 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.19841 < 1379947223 656202 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, on top of that, only male self-swatting. < 1379947245 112105 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something to be said about that somewhere, but I can't figure out what < 1379947270 56050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that can be explained by the fact we rarely have more than one active female in the channel. < 1379947282 613727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sometimes none. < 1379947286 158489 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“it's not the length of the swat that counts...” < 1379947427 454640 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I have sleep issues? < 1379947451 715611 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379947461 262987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spots an updog
< 1379947479 759465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the updog must be defective. < 1379947479 905367 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947485 621750 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: iircbpn, you talked about that stuff some months ago. < 1379947493 92808 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iirc but probably not) < 1379947507 413897 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck updog < 1379947507 559412 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947507 717987 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: a command line tool for getting weather forecasts - written in Ruby (Ruby). < 1379947530 601823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you appear to be confusing updog with yourself < 1379947530 747105 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947537 954490 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad to know that Ruby needs to be explained by itself. < 1379947551 6621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ruby with haskell. < 1379947561 791546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :updog: or do you actually do weather forecasts? < 1379947561 937033 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947594 913840 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I think I just have a tendency to nap < 1379947603 276620 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not good at lie-ins < 1379947607 728365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wait does that mean you're awake now. < 1379947637 352696 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: this updog is connected from somewhere around Buffaly, NY. < 1379947637 498412 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379947650 389632 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ly/lo/ < 1379947707 108008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm... i guess it isn't elliott, i don't think he'd bother with strange ip's. < 1379947745 330033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are the new yorkers in the channel that haven't relocated to san francisco. < 1379947774 674129 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot's asleep < 1379947782 363316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? elliot < 1379947785 362377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one was ever called Elliot. < 1379947790 221466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: ^ < 1379947792 384424 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is also aslep. < 1379947795 310195 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :asleep. < 1379947806 760909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well he might be waking up about now. < 1379947843 280688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Waiting for elliott | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1379947859 950028 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps I could cause a large explosion < 1379947872 374163 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? godot < 1379947874 558323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :godot? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1379947898 622153 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "c.f. elliott" > wisdom/godot < 1379947902 112077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379947911 364731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as recorded in the File, people from the East Coast are: jsvine, ... < 1379947917 304233 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. seems to be the only one. < 1379947924 987039 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "cf. elliott" > wisdom/godot < 1379947925 132946 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! quintopia. < 1379947928 722612 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379947951 913115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so yeah. quintopia is the Most Probable Updogger. < 1379947962 697087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures. < 1379947976 906026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :always with the laughing matter that one < 1379948039 232874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If it helps I could cause a large explosion <-- i'd like you to link afterward to the hexham newspaper where you explain why you did it. < 1379948078 398139 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: could you cause a pretty explosion, instead of a large one? < 1379948091 530960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but that might not wake up elliott! < 1379948128 673974 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I saw elliott, he made a mermaid out of me < 1379948130 210204 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So meh < 1379948132 36865 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1379948132 330130 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :=P < 1379948164 321067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: what exactly happened yesterday? were you connected and active on the Chännel during a Weekend? < 1379948181 260930 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo, I think that was me < 1379948183 508711 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm always connected. < 1379948195 784257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's updog? < 1379948195 966298 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379948196 928631 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Well, elliott turned me into a mermaid, you just made me realize it < 1379948207 244278 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1379948211 328615 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1379948211 693681 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop copying me updog < 1379948211 839100 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1379948233 51419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did you send things to gorham < 1379948270 586186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, I was busy with either my SO, or visiting Lachine at night and doing unspeakable things with another Unnämed Channel Member. < 1379948289 9633 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: mind you, the cookies are bought, I just need to go to the post office. < 1379948317 128107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am already at gorham < 1379948327 950880 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm getting late... :( < 1379948331 665013 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to send to andover, me now < 1379948355 710037 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you lend me your swatter, so that I can undergo penience for my sins? < 1379948369 858051 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lachine is best Chine < 1379948375 731150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh well. can you send me your new coördinates? < 1379948394 194698 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: swat boily for too much diaeresis < 1379948397 514393 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :>doing unspeakable things with another Unnämed Channel Member < 1379948397 930101 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379948406 935400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @tell Buggy drivers, sometimes. The "official" answer is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms854226.aspx <-- i don't think Buggy will understand that message. < 1379948411 574923 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: he he he. < 1379948434 894817 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Don't start any rumors now >_> < 1379948445 702354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nien/nan/ < 1379948459 836397 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: bin voyons dont. voir si je suis pour partir des rumeurs :D < 1379948477 289506 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/nan/nyan/g < 1379948500 780796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION helpfullÿ swäts boily -----###
< 1379948535 117715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tack. < 1379948572 663698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjänare. < 1379948612 727907 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379948615 141572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it seems not to mean what i thought it meant. < 1379948675 364338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ingen orsak < 1379948762 831949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: david rutter/general delivery/andover, me 04216 < 1379949051 40863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen there's also the single-register machine described at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Minsky_machine < 1379949076 768164 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noted. < 1379949084 676879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1379949125 58391 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Laterally < 1379949137 355971 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950001 601843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950505 44211 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-160-199.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1379950546 838104 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379950670 722404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379950754 648137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1379950770 721465 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did I mess that up? < 1379950784 678632 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EGNT < 1379950798 6476 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan lambdabot is back. hth < 1379950798 152106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379950807 459364 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 231500Z 30010KT 15SM BKN031 11/04 A3004 RMK CU6 SLP175 < 1379950807 604771 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EGNT 231520Z 11006KT 080V190 9999 FEW019 20/14 Q1022 < 1379950810 930175 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahhhhhhh < 1379950812 609661 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go < 1379950913 809399 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one of those is the temperature < 1379951025 556241 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you want the temperature? < 1379951067 736905 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's 20/14 < 1379951132 31143 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make sense, yeah < 1379951135 44430 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :11/04 < 1379951143 378441 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *is* cold-ish out there < 1379951149 578264 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gazes out the window
< 1379951472 710774 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-145-219.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379951610 489780 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-190-70.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379952101 786339 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952137 210680 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952156 548860 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-145-219.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379952218 331421 :Ngevd!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1379952230 878023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379952650 935126 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah but that's not turing-complete is it < 1379953489 729256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1379953610 554082 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379955125 255917 :S1!d9fc958f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.149.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379955330 306032 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1379955378 945929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1379955379 335537 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 231650Z 02010KT 9999 -SHRA FEW011 BKN014 10/08 Q1001 BECMG SCT014 BKN030 < 1379955424 617351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BECMG" -- for people who can't afford vowels. < 1379955433 73627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, there's one.) < 1379955819 291273 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379956366 375833 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379956658 662925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and it's -SHRAing in Helsinki. < 1379956705 466478 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shra, eh < 1379957206 634582 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379957232 636482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's raining in Shanghai. (Disclaimer: it might not, this is a reference.) < 1379957246 70404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZSSS < 1379957247 298593 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZSSS 231700Z 15004MPS 9999 FEW013 26/23 Q1011 NOSIG < 1379957259 740059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sadly not. this is not a reference. hth. < 1379957272 917147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is an MPS?) < 1379957277 495017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck MPS < 1379957278 89648 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mps definition: meters per second. < 1379957280 595446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1379957285 83220 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring. < 1379957295 583386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the local weather forecast says it will rain on Wednesday, that's close enough. < 1379957296 781518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd much prefer for it to be Miles per Second. more dramatic, imho. < 1379957408 812067 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moons/sec < 1379957459 494873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :megaluns per second! < 1379957526 977671 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :MegaParsecs/Second < 1379957529 124241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/second -> km/hour < 1379957536 349481 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957557 577890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, Frink's interpretation of "km/h" was kind of curious. < 1379957560 941000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/second -> km/h < 1379957568 518815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \ Left side is: 804672/125 (exactly 6437.376) m s^-1 (velocity) \ Right side is: 1.5091904506831453200e+36 m^-1 s kg^-1 (unknown unit type) \ Suggestion: divide left side by energy \ \ For help, type: units[energy] \ to list known units with these dimensions. < 1379957587 280975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kilometers per henry? < 1379957595 93503 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of curious things, I had that Most Wonderful Cola during lunch. < 1379957603 684893 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The dead one? < 1379957617 592010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: I don't drink dead cola. < 1379957627 909188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that would match the henry, right. < 1379957628 274473 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you drink alive cola, then? < 1379957632 100344 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 megaparsec/second -> km/hour < 1379957639 887753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: of course. only the freshest. < 1379957640 799152 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.4433757170802496930e+23 < 1379957652 288231 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 miles/s -> km/hr < 1379957659 937305 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957674 651890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/hr < 1379957682 726745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957683 299795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shorter and shorter. < 1379957688 683641 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 megalightyear/milisecond -> km/hr < 1379957689 877581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you golfing unit converstion? you freaks. < 1379957697 142230 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "milisecond". \ Warning: undefined symbol "milisecond". \ Unconvertable expression: \ 47303652362904000000000 m (length) milisecond (undefined symbol)^-1 -> 5/18 (approx. 0.2777777777777778) m s^-1 (velocity) < 1379957697 287653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/st/s/ < 1379957703 848137 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 5 megalightyear/millisecond -> km/hr < 1379957712 123745 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :170293148506454400000000000 < 1379957726 356494 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow that sounds wrong < 1379957763 767466 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 1 lightyear/year -> km/hr < 1379957771 712504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0792759005937356714e+9 < 1379957789 439934 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did it use scientific notation for this but not for that >_> < 1379957817 640458 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/h < 1379957821 522329 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1379957825 417645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ Conformance error \ Left side is: 804672/125 (exactly 6437.376) m s^-1 (velocity) \ Right side is: 1.5091904506831453200e+36 m^-1 s kg^-1 (unknown unit type) \ Suggestion: divide left side by energy \ \ For help, type: units[energy] \ to list known units with these dimensions. < 1379957831 486267 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: because 170293148506454400000000000 is the Not Quite Exactly Number of the Beast. < 1379957834 611009 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 m/s -> km/hr < 1379957836 201668 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/frink: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `exactly' \ /hackenv/bin/frink: line 1: `14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536)' < 1379957882 646966 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :何 < 1379957891 565340 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 4 mi/s -> km/hr < 1379957893 851735 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/frink < 1379957895 194694 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ exec /hackenv/lib/frink -e "$@" < 1379957899 389572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :14484096/625 (exactly 23174.5536) < 1379957927 158162 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "dummy programs with Unicode in the name" thing is getting really old. < 1379957941 624872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its all unicode :< < 1379957946 46755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :u kno < 1379957950 323950 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1379957962 846628 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :... This is only the second time I've done it, elliott >_< < 1379958069 129848 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roujo: you need to find something more... obscure. something that will slip past behind the Ever Examinating Elliott Eyes. < 1379958094 499385 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess don't really have anything on-topic to do here, anyway, so I can see how that could be annoying < 1379958097 42408 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1379958100 972380 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, have a nice day < 1379958113 59222 :Roujo!~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo PART #esoteric :"Off I go!" < 1379958140 819966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'echo hi' > bin/`printf '\xcc\x8a'` && chmod +x bin/`printf '\xcc\x8a'` < 1379958145 516174 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1379958153 501045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`̊ < 1379958154 896298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1379958378 46130 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, outstanding < 1379958388 972516 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combining mark, yeah? < 1379958439 472801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMBINING RING ABOVE < 1379958444 806269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The insta-angel character. < 1379958611 105723 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959193 968616 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959424 217576 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379959428 703370 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1379959448 140093 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, connect, you damn bot... < 1379959499 602116 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379959571 552037 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know if there is a command line tool to mess with mount namespaces under Linux? < 1379959589 979118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean about a mount namespace? < 1379959621 87663 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mess with that stuff but I think I've stumbled upon the tool < 1379959627 701737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know that different programs can have different set of visible mount points right? Used for stuff like virtualization, but Android also uses it for security < 1379959632 208858 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hth) < 1379959640 737809 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, happen to remember the name? < 1379959643 607567 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959648 400659 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379959666 665974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZBBB < 1379959667 387191 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1379959670 649454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZUUU < 1379959671 118293 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZUUU 231800Z 00000MPS 4000 BR NSC 21/19 Q1013 NOSIG < 1379959691 701300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "unshare" is one tool that's slightly relevant. < 1379959694 810620 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379959739 8134 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm basically lookint to set up a unionfs on / (and other partitions as required) to do a checkinstall/fakeroot on stereoids < 1379959746 363830 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: something with mount --make-{share,slave,private}? < 1379959776 313176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unshare" runs a program with mount (or other) namespace privatized, so that whatever changes you do won't affect the parent. < 1379959805 29448 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, err what? Looking at it it looks potentially different, but I have no clue what that stuff is < 1379959822 617668 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that looks like it could work < 1379959832 570657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: result from a quick google search. I have no idea what it implies, but there's documentation on IBM.com and C code with PAM. < 1379959872 676604 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking the man page I'm confused < 1379959877 383106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The share/slave/private thing is fancy, but indeed slightly different. I've forgotten exactly how it worked, but it was relevant to what's visible from where through what bind mounts. < 1379959887 618261 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1379959913 399781 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apparently their firewall is blocking access to certain file types." the dav saga continues < 1379959962 287697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a kind of a thing where you can mount a tree in such a way that if you mount it with "shared" in one place, and as "slave" in others, then mount something else inside the master location, the slaves will see those same mounts. < 1379959982 599131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally you'd of course need to e.g. explicitly bind all new mounts you make inside the master. < 1379959989 732639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that Maemo uses that feature. < 1379959997 378383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Meego, or some other thing in that family. < 1379960009 957987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1379960011 911166 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1379960013 963159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some mobile thing anyway. :p < 1379960085 688404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the Maegozen mess... < 1379960128 752582 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's sort of related to mount namespaces in that there you could easily have a need for shared mounts in addition to private ones. < 1379960166 768918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some sort of a thing where you have per-login namespaces, and whan e.g. a user's sshfs mounts be visible in all sessions of that user. < 1379960177 91389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Man, modern things are so complicated.) < 1379960211 78033 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sshfs on my system is visible across the board from what I can see < 1379960227 87386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't think per-login namespaces are exactly commonplace. < 1379960228 438682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not usable by others unless you pass -o allow_root or some such flag < 1379960230 820483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you chain sshfses across multiple machines? < 1379960238 84830 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably < 1379960238 765840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you sshfs mount something with default options then root "can't" access it, which is strange < 1379960255 580792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I know, which annoyed me a lot when doing rdiff-backup on my phone < 1379960261 452730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you mean sshfs mount a remote filesystem which has sshfs mounts? yes of course < 1379960264 496691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it < 1379960281 795164 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to be slow though < 1379960286 290354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily < 1379960306 925224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite thing about Linux namespaces is the number of security holes created by allowing unprivileged users to create them < 1379960319 862811 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, unprivileged users can create them? heh < 1379960328 86364 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that could cause loads of issues < 1379960336 693116 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I mean having an sshfs mount that tunnels through one or more machines to get to a distant one. < 1379960340 370254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a newish feature, don't know when it's enabled < 1379960347 366534 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard android 4.3 uses SElinux as well. < 1379960349 12748 :S1!d9fc958f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.252.149.143 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1379960363 340312 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that whole namespace stuff sounds like something that should increase security, not create more holes < 1379960374 720714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: sure if it has no bugs < 1379960385 439594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a ton of new code which breaks a bunch of longstanding assumptions < 1379960406 823431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lwn.net/Articles/543273/ hey this looks like a cool article < 1379960407 803709 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They should have unit tests and such... Hm, are there automated testing suits of any kind of the kernel? < 1379960421 46482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol you can't find security holes that way Vorpal < 1379960431 80721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have automated tests just to prevent security *regressions*, which do happen < 1379960431 235679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing is for wimps. failures should be spectacular! < 1379960432 482255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, but you can find bugs < 1379960434 240716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Incidentally, the clone thing from last night worked on the first try, after gdisk expert-mode fixing the disk-size and backup header fields. (Also bumped the Windows Experience Index score up by two points or something.) < 1379960435 929639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's nothing near a solution < 1379960487 939126 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice, my desktop scores like 7.5-7.9 on everything but the disk, which caps the whole thing to 5.4 or some such < 1379960524 870027 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, funnily it is my SSD in my work laptop that caps it's score too to 6.8 or some such. That is an Intel 520 SSD < 1379960558 781860 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than that it scores like 7.1-7.3 iirc < 1379960568 986367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Same here. I think I have 7.9 from all other categories (though it goes to 9.9 these days), except the disk was 5.x; now it's 7.1. (It's not the fastest possible SSD.) < 1379960608 340367 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379960616 836124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, 9.9 is Windows 8 I presume? < 1379960625 865905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's an 8 install. < 1379960632 352265 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1379960643 542505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if 8.1 is going to bump those up even more. < 1379960646 328401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how terrible is it? < 1379960671 179368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep starting Chrome every now and then because it's at the left edge of the quick launch bar where a start window would be. :p < 1379960681 192300 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1379960689 275630 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, apart from that? Do you hate it? < 1379960722 98611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, honestly I don't really use it all that much. Certainly it works okay for basically running Steam. < 1379960729 121021 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1379960746 649619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've installed Emacs on it and whatnot, but I'm not entirely clear why I bothered. < 1379960783 399814 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1379960792 613217 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379960794 678051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear they're doing a steam os now < 1379960806 570848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steam OS? < 1379960808 444350 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1379960813 708844 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume it is a Linux distro? < 1379960823 143296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, when did they announce that? < 1379960834 604009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows 8.1 is going to add a start menu and a straight-to-Desktop boot option, which I guess will make the UI more "usual". I'm not a real fan of the start screen. < 1379960838 201675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they've said but it's the only viable candidate < 1379960842 126963 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, today < 1379960843 346332 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1379960845 175096 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Imagine that, Valve decided that the "environment best suited" to Steam is one it owns and controls fully» < 1379960851 757657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379960927 665141 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck valve < 1379960928 528661 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valve definition: '''archaic''' a leaf of a folding or double door. < 1379960934 49227 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nailed it < 1379960942 398533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hundreds of great games are already running natively on SteamOS. Watch for announcements in the coming weeks about all the AAA titles coming natively to SteamOS in 2014." < 1379960951 301178 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SteamOS combines the rock-solid architecture of Linux with a gaming experience built for the big screen." i guess that's straightforward < 1379960952 834248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, that, er, seems a bit hyperbolic what with the linux part < 1379960956 635055 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 8.1's start menu isn't actually a menu. < 1379960960 706913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it just brings up the start screen. < 1379960973 384168 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379960976 460587 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: eh android's pretty controlled < 1379960984 177802 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, how locked down will it be though? < 1379961017 359009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah but is it really 'owned and controlled fully' by google (i don't know how android works) < 1379961019 955661 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: personally I used http://www.startisback.com/ to make Windows 8 like bad old Windows when playing around with it in a VM. YMMV on whether you can bring yourself to pay for a start menu. < 1379961033 368778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Oh? Well, I guess that's okay too. I can just think the screen is a big menu. < 1379961067 367626 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The living-room is family territory. That’s great, but you don’t want to see your parents’ games in your library. Soon, families will have more control over what titles get seen by whom, and more features to allow everyone in the house to get the most out of their Steam libraries. < 1379961078 935747 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Android is kind of controlled, kind of open. The source is open, the play store, is not. Nor is the development towards the next release until it is released. < 1379961125 413410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can play all your Windows and Mac games on your SteamOS machine, too. Just turn on your existing computer and run Steam as you always have - then your SteamOS machine can stream those games over your home network straight to your TV!" < 1379961132 371583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That streaming stuff seems really popular these days. < 1379961140 236875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't Nvidia keep doing that kind of thing too? < 1379961142 436288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mac games" heh < 1379961152 409025 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well onlive folded iirc < 1379961173 652740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I mean locally-inside-the-house kind of stuff this time. < 1379961182 81253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt there are many games on mac that are not on windows. I know of a couple, and they are really really old. < 1379961205 269223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shield streams games from a PC too, AIUI. < 1379961255 198556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess they have the GRID project. < 1379961259 611900 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1379961265 490552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one is GRID? < 1379961274 713869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nvidia's own Onlive-style thing, I think. < 1379961303 72831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: porn games right < 1379961310 587213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must be it < 1379961315 612078 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u know it bro B) < 1379961319 182509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1379961330 866051 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to keep the nude mods out of sight < 1379961331 785565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure if they were going to run the service too or what; at least it's a family of hardware for running a "cloud gaming" service. < 1379961362 298510 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1379961395 819260 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the idea was that steam was going to stream from a PC in your house < 1379961398 869102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When service operators use NVIDIA GRID as the foundation for their on-demand Gaming as a Service (GaaS) solution --" < 1379961409 100369 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna play me some leisure suit larry on the biiiiig screen < 1379961421 861742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: With the biiiiig pixels. < 1379961427 601649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, yes, that's what fizzie was initially talking about < 1379961430 836722 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo as a service is pretty great < 1379961468 947889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Service as a Service. < 1379961656 839266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :food as a service < 1379961928 703126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The background on the SteamOS page -- http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/ -- looks kind of like the Land of Wind and Shade. (I'm about 3000 pages behind in Homestuck, incidentally.) < 1379962529 66 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, it's all downhill from there < 1379962671 909675 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379962738 664190 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/downhill/uphill < 1379962754 388730 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ < 1379962761 575561 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for completing my regex -_- < 1379962771 322884 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need the trailing slash for sed, man! < 1379962809 852933 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also imo it's not very hilly since it's in magispace < 1379962960 163427 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic of paradox space! < 1379963011 322934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963076 582484 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1379963370 516266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone just posted on a.l.i asking for a MarioLANG impl < 1379963384 293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mentioning it here, because I imagine most of you don't read a.l.i) < 1379963620 719235 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1379963645 323914 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963880 204638 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1379963948 825594 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379963979 387455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How much are they paying?" < 1379964098 92830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh, you were up to the doc scratch intermission? < 1379964148 251858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think I was up to something like that, yes. < 1379964831 244547 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1379965051 718241 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379965566 809838 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1379965794 481344 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc has become impressively good at emitting calls to optimized functions that don't exist < 1379965991 416523 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379967361 334241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967361 779513 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Great Possessing" to "Sojourning" < 1379967665 881733 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967666 124011 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Small Exceeding" to "Sojourning" < 1379967842 308505 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967845 344914 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Grouping" to "Returning" < 1379967855 70865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. I was worried it was stuck on sojourning. < 1379967918 243634 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1379967919 568192 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Returning" to "Gnawing Bite" < 1379967940 676233 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are these from < 1379967962 732900 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379967969 218680 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I Ching. < 1379967999 12264 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is I also written ~yi or something? < 1379968006 736753 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Ching... is that the weird two-player game where you've got to draw a path with othello-like tiles? < 1379968028 825585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine my confusion when I looked up in the sky to see a bunch of tiny clouds spelling out the word "CLOUD" in big letters < 1379968030 98420 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: depends on the romanisation. < 1379968047 446084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(skywriter advertising) < 1379968055 58566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is stalked by fractal clouds. < 1379968061 568336 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very pkd < 1379968066 416321 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379968067 955448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: never heard of that. < 1379968089 239685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my usual tagline is "stupid cyberpunk future" but this is less cyberpunk and more like Hofstadter and PKD dropped acid together < 1379968123 152782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: there's this game played with a go board and stones, where both players use black stone at first, then one of them decides during the game to play white. < 1379968153 83042 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything in this city is trying to sell me clouds of various shapes < 1379968174 642930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: apparently, my divination relates to having freedom transformed into vacations or something. < 1379968183 633620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm due for a quick trip abroad... < 1379968283 386522 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you mean go with the pie-rule? < 1379968290 695395 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen anyone play that < 1379968334 757554 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the goal is to make a line that connects 2 or 3 sides first. can't remember the details; I'm trying to find the game again. < 1379968642 454593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's that, but I'm vraiment pas sûr: http://www.di.fc.ul.pt/~jpn/gv/gonnect.htm < 1379968655 81619 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gonnect" < 1379968657 179958 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUBTLE < 1379968677 977872 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :RULES - The rules of GO apply, except: < 1379968678 567908 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Players may not pass; < 1379968678 713113 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : The PIE rule: White may choose as his 1st move to exchange places with Black. < 1379968692 541302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I'm not sure it's that. < 1379968697 346512 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1379968714 326108 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I didn't quote the remainder of the page where they explain you have to connect 2 or 3 sides < 1379968733 785286 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *know* there's a game where you have to connect three sides. < 1379968933 930884 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm interesting < 1379968961 178644 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article says player often reach a dead-end because of mutually separated groups < 1379968984 544165 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the game keeps going until someone runs out of moves and has to commit suicide < 1379968996 900875 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's basically go < 1379969027 9043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite go move is the nuclear tesuji :D < 1379969110 457725 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes PRIVMSG #esoteric :nay, B2 bomber < 1379969157 679655 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379969208 744660 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, nothing compares to a Swedish fuseki. < 1379969738 961639 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 125 J -> L*atm < 1379969751 648034 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :5000/4053 (approx. 1.233654083395016) < 1379969793 704074 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379969960 167777 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1379970264 394504 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379970325 137758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1379970574 216599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: yes it is. < 1379970607 927079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen yes it is. < 1379970608 72232 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379970629 662383 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into it < 1379970643 877319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia anyone who sees that in the future will think it is two quotes <-- WOW YOU WERE PSYCHIC < 1379970644 22467 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1379970692 786394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: in fact, that machine being TC is a step on the road to showing that an ordinary minsky machine with 2 register is TC. < 1379970710 129228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*registers < 1379970835 254690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen: also, fractran is basically a version of it with much simplified flow control. < 1379970981 274105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fractran has no persistent machine state in addition to the unbounded single register. < 1379971019 751830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you need temporary state to know where you are in the list of fractions, though.) < 1379971318 987827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2222222222222222222 < 1379971332 425323 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1379971344 727416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1379971406 213785 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379971583 892148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION applies percussive maintenance on ais523 --------#̈#̈#̈
< 1379971613 912720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's my standard rule that whenever I accidentally spam a lot of keys due to leaning on the keyboard in #esoteric, I send rather than delete < 1379971621 660776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed I'd been leaning on the "2" key, so… < 1379971635 731527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee < 1379971701 984366 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how a simple “plot twist” becomes «revirement de situation». sometimes, English is much more efficient... < 1379971743 948969 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1379971764 419365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aurgh! not again? < 1379971780 875713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est < 1379971782 897667 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379971786 261755 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1379971801 837569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :run run, run awaaaaaaaaayyyyyy ♪ < 1379971808 325996 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oh oh oh! < 1379971817 811084 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck psycho killer < 1379971818 136217 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Psycho Killer" is a song written by David Byrne, Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth and first played by their band The Artistic in 1974, and as new wave band Talking Heads in 1975, with a later version recorded for their 1977 album Talking Heads: 77. < 1379971831 769623 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ba ba ba ba, ba ba ba ba ba, ba, better < 1379971987 919125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZUUL < 1379971988 321605 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1379972175 216390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ZMUB < 1379972175 684245 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZMUB 232130Z 00000MPS CAVOK M06/M08 Q1024 NOSIG RMK QFE659.9 89 < 1379972307 438533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENSB < 1379972307 841490 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENSB 232050Z 14003KT CAVOK 00/M02 Q1034 RMK WIND 1400FT 26003KT < 1379972318 849294 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. it's colder in Ulaan Baatar than in Svalbard. < 1379972576 973016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ZMUB-ENSB < 1379972615 378716 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shiny! < 1379972642 826718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar UEEE < 1379972643 244232 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :UEEE 232130Z 34006MPS 9999 BKN016CB OVC100 03/01 Q0997 NOSIG RMK QFE739 23190055 < 1379972686 438469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KSFO < 1379972686 845580 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KSFO 232056Z 05003KT 10SM CLR 22/13 A2998 RMK AO2 SLP151 T02170133 58016 < 1379972717 765654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can chain them! < 1379972770 544983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=CYUL-KEWR-VHHH < 1379972781 287702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a cool site < 1379972796 817620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it's all nice and sunny and warm in Frisco. < 1379972799 161712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is jealous
< 1379972805 949761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't call it Frisco!! < 1379972819 803735 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ulaanbaatar is in the middle of a continental desert, it gets super windy i think < 1379972820 562755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleeeeeeeeh :P < 1379972830 669174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry we locals are supposed to get really annoyed when people call it Frisco < 1379972836 73893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: right now, there's no wind at that airport. < 1379972836 242410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually know why but it's A Thing < 1379972838 790058 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about Cisco < 1379972842 573603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: even worse < 1379972852 997773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, "Cisco" is named after the last five letters in "San Francisco" < 1379972856 905853 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nabesico < 1379972880 224170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the old Nabisco building in Cambridge, MA is now owned by Novartis < 1379972903 512876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :from biscuits to boner pills < 1379972922 341376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novartis owns all, except when property of GSK or Bayer. < 1379972928 875843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or probably Astra Zeneca) < 1379972973 627095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't think Pfizer is owned by any of those < 1379972997 712882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Novartis is descended from the company that invented LSD < 1379973023 64419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go empoison myself. < 1379973030 812277 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, one of the burger chains has a Frisco meal < 1379973034 153943 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: BROUE! < 1379973036 150790 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379973063 862101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a Frisco, Texas < 1379973078 513254 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :named entirely to piss off san franciscans < 1379973081 854220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1379973115 874931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now looking at Dallas and Houston on a map
< 1379973116 723092 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1379973118 371926 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many freeways < 1379973136 705761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite like LA though < 1379973405 12766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls looking up Frisco on wikipedia once. it actually was named after san francisco.
< 1379973429 788769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once = last couple of months, i think < 1379973468 451621 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379973488 861133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it's still named after san francisco < 1379973525 319654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~meta ENVA < 1379973532 492115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1379973625 778598 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1379973634 683418 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1379973694 904294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, too. < 1379973750 173435 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379973769 634586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 1904, the residents chose Frisco City in honor of the St. Louis-San Francisco Railway on which the town was founded" < 1379973818 875144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which railway apparently never made it west of Texas < 1379973823 643342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimistic name < 1379974166 499217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a house office named Godspeed Through Texas < 1379974174 628255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what their duties were, other than organizing Naked Run < 1379974266 331683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you'd need to speed through texas for that. < 1379974392 852097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes a long time to run from california to texas, whether or not you're naked < 1379974448 123315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1379974971 533852 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1379975668 754855 :Tomski!~Tomski@host-2-101-28-202.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379975688 351983 :Tomski!~Tomski@host-2-101-28-202.as13285.net PART :#esoteric < 1379976740 500689 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379978364 55937 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1379981775 646054 :Koen!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen < 1379982509 229628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:27 < indirect> is it normal to get "pthread_mutex_lock(&_mutex) failed in src/rt/sync/lock_and_signal.cpp at line 79, result = 22 (Invalid argument)" every other time you run rust --version ? < 1379982521 934570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer appears to be "yes" < 1379982541 493678 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eesh < 1379982563 335862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually get anywhere between 0 and 3 copies of that error message when i run it < 1379982753 473300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the distribution is, and whether it'd make a decent RNG < 1379982773 687491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why would a --version need a mutex anyway? < 1379982786 748281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(theory: it doesn't need one, but the code is trying to create one regardless, that's why it's failing) < 1379982850 306331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1379983005 566830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah beats me, probably the RTS is to blame and not the --version code itself < 1379983564 311992 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379983834 893162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1379984937 9768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, to lock one regardless < 1379985179 786057 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379986782 835128 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mencius Moldbug’s Urbit system appears to be public!" < 1379986836 453671 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbit.org/ < 1379986938 953139 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nock has no “native methods” or foreign-function interface. Nor is it ever extended, embellished, forked, improved or advanced." < 1379986953 932182 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't that tried with JSON? With less than positive results? < 1379986967 328210 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, at least one negative result < 1379987194 532826 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1379987195 540406 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Knowing Pascal made it harder, not easier, to learn C. Knowing Haskell or Lisp makes it harder to learn Hoon. Indeed, knowing either would have made it impossible for me to write Hoon." < 1379987200 838860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1379987335 261229 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't nock the psycho martian one < 1379987343 486505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wasn't moldbug the psycho) < 1379987446 282312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" An atom is any natural number. " < 1379987451 628997 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's already ambiguous < 1379987548 327976 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural number more like terribilural number < 1379987702 768232 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We should note that in Nock and Hoon, 0 (pronounced “yes”) is true, and 1 (“no”) is false. Why? It’s fresh, it’s different, it’s new. And it’s annoying. And it keeps you on your toes. And it’s also just intuitively right." < 1379987798 502309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why are you reading this, and more importantly, having me personally read it < 1379987827 835878 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be interesting < 1379988033 189533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1379988039 58067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :moldbug invented a programming language?? < 1379988111 735117 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379988112 777588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could sleep tonight < 1379988118 349294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a deploy to do < 1379988140 322121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds like an esolang, at least < 1379988146 574711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might not be a good esolang, though < 1379988192 552321 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the world is vast and mysterious. < 1379988472 529570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never heard of Moldbug, though; should I? < 1379988482 81660 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no he's just an internet shithead < 1379988496 296947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realizes that any dependently typed version of rust should be called zeerust.
< 1379988547 288617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's that < 1379988561 264681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: apparently my supervisor hired an expert on dependent typing in response to me giving them control of the compiler I'd been writing < 1379988569 76778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Zeerust < 1379988571 897601 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zeerust is the jetsons < 1379988590 611760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, did you just post a TV Tropes link? < 1379988623 95394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey _someone_ has to balance out your lawful goodness here < 1379988639 591209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that meant to balance out the good, or the lawfu? < 1379988641 895365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lawful? < 1379988649 437044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :both of course. < 1379988711 695416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1379988714 147311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1379988716 884744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, does that mean he needed a dependent typing expert to understand anything of what you did? < 1379988727 640191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah nice < 1379988756 802808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, or well, I doubt it < 1379988766 327422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that it wasn't dependently typed < 1379988781 317564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? slist < 1379988782 296173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you missed an opportunity there. < 1379988783 687804 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update notification for the webcomic Homestuck. < 1379988791 848971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it /should/ be dependently typed, really < 1379988805 750968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a natural direction to go in < 1379988817 829195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 920 < 1379988819 367048 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 920: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1379988853 180042 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, names would be more useful than numbers, the numbers aren't memorable < 1379988866 109924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that one was up like two days ago < 1379988879 146678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only reason 919 was so slow is that it must have been a pain to draw < 1379988901 102602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but HackEgo was down, also i just checked. < 1379988973 283458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought burlew had some kind of disease, but he's been picking up lately. < 1379989011 938421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there was something about a thumb accident. but i thought there was something else too. < 1379989013 387679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a disease, it was an injury < 1379989021 329253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, might have been something else too < 1379989037 839711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's been at his old pace (except with a random update schedule) recently < 1379989069 663530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pace < 1379989277 988059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1379989550 511787 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was an injury recently, and a long time chronic disease < 1379989702 157778 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :??long time chronic?? < 1379991738 403596 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1379992798 127234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1379994089 480151 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT : < 1379994345 667987 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to long time acute, of course. < 1379994485 490804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is Celebrate Bisexuality Day apparently < 1379994611 840881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are more than 366 goals to assign days to, I think < 1379994623 708559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every day has quite a high chance of being represented < 1379994635 397671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the chance of a clash would be very large even with only 30 or so, if they're picked randomly) < 1379994653 420839 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Cheers. < 1379994745 681990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :same to you < 1379994755 915837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep < 1379997213 428109 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1379998533 579722 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1379998885 728696 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-61.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1379999003 715339 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1379999714 756034 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1379999992 735609 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380000394 273683 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380000395 857154 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380000399 525632 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380000401 396805 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was alreayd posted < 1380000402 704437 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a dumb < 1380000412 136340 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta work on your slist game < 1380000613 691469 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380001991 894079 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380002403 167472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380003323 76784 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380004059 748325 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380004356 718404 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380004842 819446 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380005814 316063 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-185-63.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380005979 724089 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-199-57.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380006494 440610 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-185-63.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1380008013 606681 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-185-63.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist Dave and John's Hot Mom < 1380008018 189801 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist Dave and John's Hot Mom: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380009062 530641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380010151 613330 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380010648 722949 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380010680 376618 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1380013883 704809 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380014720 225199 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380015576 37090 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-185-63.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380016446 165451 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380016452 880317 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380018743 363828 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380019119 884270 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380019195 168726 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380020453 686293 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-175-61.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1380020467 525602 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-175-61.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380020467 671379 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380022546 814595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380023204 723323 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380025625 127975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380025833 304394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 but which day is Birth Paradox Day? < 1380025833 450012 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380025983 571898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks d&d rules guy in mezzacotta is being particularly weird today.
< 1380026029 164801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the moby dick guy isn't much saner. < 1380026073 744428 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380026083 926908 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shikhin, you seem familiar < 1380026097 816153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shikhin < 1380026099 217536 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, interesting. I didn't even know such a place existed, I was just trying out random channels. < 1380026102 29750 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06shikh10in:14 We08l12co13me t08o the inte13rnational h10ub for es11oteric programmin14g lan02gu11age design and de06ployment04! 13Fo07r m14o03re i04nformation02, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.or03g/wiki/Main_Pag07e.04 (For06 03the oth14er kind 07of07 02esoterica, try #esoteric10 on irc.dal.net.) < 1380026124 1860 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) Fun. < 1380026222 919848 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think relcome presents a misleading image of us < 1380026229 608050 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1380026250 462908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's us as a whole, not you < 1380026254 363378 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Taneb, heard a lot about you. < 1380026276 116852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380026281 587428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once heard taneb punched a hole in the chancellor < 1380026311 62386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: do you happen to be from hexham and/or helsinki < 1380026320 637677 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :< Taneb> Gordon Moore's expected lifespan doubles every 18 months < 1380026321 426516 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1380026332 437275 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, but I know people from around (not exactly there, though). < 1380026347 80316 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, he sounds like he's from wherever boily and Roujo are from < 1380026353 319335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1380026372 859839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should we start including montreal in the the question < 1380026373 122293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you're a cog in the lachinery < 1380026384 269080 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see you guys guess my ethnicity. < 1380026393 706565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1380026414 1866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orcish < 1380026427 950179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: that is highly irregular for this channel. and boily will be so displeased. < 1380026440 797139 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, what? < 1380026446 873517 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm irregular, or guessing ethnicity? < 1380026466 275686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for god's sake is another esolang cluster forming in israel now < 1380026474 127883 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've metastasised < 1380026509 130152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are irregular. you are supposed to give your approximate coordinates for science purposes. but boily takes care of that. < 1380026521 122927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Taneb is the most irregular here. < 1380026524 510614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, don't forget body mass < 1380026529 815437 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm somewhere on Earth, if I'm judging my surroundings correctly. < 1380026538 607705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i was trying not to scare em away at once < 1380026545 599170 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin, so that averages out to somewhere around the core right < 1380026546 792182 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I am!? < 1380026556 445270 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: *on*, not *in*. < 1380026562 627976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well you're from irregular webcomic < 1380026567 750428 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, true < 1380026572 231599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin, yes, that's how averages work < 1380026575 500817 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably ought to go back there at some point < 1380026576 107835 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Israel is already a giant cluster < 1380026601 591129 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suppose; it's rather hot in here. < 1380026608 835506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you know dmm's wikipedia page was just deleted < 1380026619 394632 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1380026622 730900 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! < 1380026630 363708 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although if you weight the average by population density it's probably a lot closer to asia < 1380026635 856410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and iwc itself was up for discussion last i checked < 1380026643 212055 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Going on the right track, you are. < 1380026746 599376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hey the cluster may have started in israel, and metastasized with shachaf < 1380026756 951649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sure DMM wrote a bunch of RPG books and notable esolangs, doesn't that qualify for notable? < 1380026771 310428 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380026771 457013 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380026771 457179 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380026771 457254 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380026771 960107 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380026780 18943 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380026780 164596 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380026844 856804 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380026871 480097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: all mentions were in "unreliable" or primary sources something something < 1380026895 400503 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's DMM? < 1380026908 191339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, remember when you cried at dmm's monopoly rant < 1380026924 265097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :david morgan-mar, author of irregular webcomic and other stuff < 1380026953 684726 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes I do < 1380026968 956330 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also several esolangs, but who cares about that < 1380026992 945948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i suspect those didn't help any on wikipedia. < 1380027074 145090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascists! < 1380027098 34637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also dmm himself dropped by just to say he trusted them to make a fair decision. < 1380027207 672158 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380027230 442257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh also yesterday's http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=1588 made me look at http://www.mezzacotta.net/postcard/?comic=121 again and realize how brilliant that one was < 1380027266 984013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i assume you're following darths and droids?) < 1380027313 299984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this is like a two-way inception. < 1380027399 462990 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380027410 334610 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now, I'm only following IWC and D&D < 1380027491 642270 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380027977 240084 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380027986 618736 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380027997 589018 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is creepy < 1380027998 792389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE ninio < 1380028001 416531 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NiNiO: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380028019 222657 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everyone < 1380028042 144865 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380028081 679703 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are u < 1380028094 463352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning. < 1380028116 223117 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm traveling in europe, it's 14.08pm < 1380028135 611928 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What time is there? < 1380028163 924474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ninio: you don't happen to be in hexham, uk at the moment? < 1380028213 689482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we have to hit one again sooner or later, right?) < 1380028217 890919 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1380028223 372876 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right timezone < 1380028263 303544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes i calculated, although if the offset from mine had been the other way i'd of course have asked helsinki. < 1380028295 124904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have momentarily been to hexham a few times, actually < 1380028300 809237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1380028305 53965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, another guy who uses 24h time with pm! < 1380028325 555664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure, i wasn't paying attention < 1380028335 374291 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not the only one! < 1380028342 235630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw shikhin is new and is being all mysterious about his whereabouts < 1380028357 9726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*also new < 1380028374 826870 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin lives in █████ < 1380028384 116090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not in hexham, though, although disturbingly he knows who Taneb is. < 1380028385 645505 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't think you have, if this is the trains < 1380028393 933656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks a lot for providing me with vict^H^H^H^Hpeople to whom I can ask the The Question! < 1380028397 595161 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, pity < 1380028408 775602 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you frequently travel Carlisle <-> Newcastle < 1380028458 747406 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was in UK once. < 1380028464 239276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ninio: who are you? d'où viens-tu? ¿qué es un busón? what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1380028464 965078 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just in London. < 1380028469 864048 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: wtf is that an actual [REDACTED] character < 1380028483 630340 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, unicide full block < 1380028489 531102 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unicode < 1380028492 158839 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you don't have clearance to understand nortti. < 1380028504 548381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ah. < 1380028520 972836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: bon matin! where are you from? whate are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1380028529 81893 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1380028535 899513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aaaaaah, the incredible feeling of asking the The Question...) < 1380028548 702100 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Question < 1380028557 260330 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ninio: yes. the The Question. < 1380028561 401508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: the google hits all seem to use it for redaction though. also, is unicide what you want to do after being frustrated by unicode too many times? < 1380028579 326514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*google suggestions < 1380028582 9991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's when you kill one person < 1380028585 704467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lesson of the day: don't try to drink yesterday's maté. bletch.) < 1380028608 180002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that applies also to coffee < 1380028647 610931 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee < 1380028655 156645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't drink coffee at work anymore. that thing they make is becoming more and more toxic. < 1380028678 633761 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on the quality, quantity < 1380028699 872150 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the cleanliness of the machine, and drinkability of water. < 1380028715 407047 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1380028718 436572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shudders at the memories... “You weren't there, man! You can't understand!”
< 1380028721 598958 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 16:18 <@sortiecat> Unicide is when people can't read your suicide note because they lack the proper font. < 1380028751 355017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Unicide is when people can't read your suicide note because they lack the proper font. < 1380028756 369281 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1380028808 812335 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me < 1380028826 917677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw i don't think ninio was saying he was in london _now_ in case that wasn't clear. < 1380028853 251170 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380028853 888988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in europe, in the same timezone, though, which afair leaves ireland and portugal. < 1380028871 968717 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I know. he still haven't answered. < 1380028899 325740 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry boys I'm too slow. < 1380028900 66452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at ninio with the kind of manic grin you only find on used car salesmen
< 1380028931 517311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and rabid dogs? < 1380028956 920843 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not frothing yet, even if that sip of maté still tastes quite bad. < 1380028976 944788 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380029011 708407 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ok, Sorry I did not want to disturb anyone . best wishes. < 1380029121 198828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ninio: you're not disturbing, it's not like much was happening at the moment. < 1380029165 305709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh his ip's in portugal. < 1380029251 258924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i think this hexinky/question stuff has run its course < 1380029258 836468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Please don't be scared off by the The Question | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1380029291 872833 :ninio!bc52d6d0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.214.208 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380029297 948950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you know i think you thought that from when it started. < 1380029309 92217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one disappeared :( < 1380029320 945428 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, i was on board with both at the start < 1380029355 815632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just now all it seems to accomplish is creeping noobs out with no real humour behind it < 1380029396 565664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ;_; < 1380029438 596461 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our PR has become quite bad. we need to revamp it. < 1380029472 131591 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe entice forthcoming newcomers with a nice and shiny BF derivative on the wiki's front page? < 1380029514 980682 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, ah, actually ask them what their interest in the channel is < 1380029531 898465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :This Month's Brainfuck Derivative < 1380029558 187936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: right. < 1380029836 164013 :loogie!loogie@nat/unlab/x-jjgovrmabcrsorqg JOIN :#esoteric < 1380029856 851289 :loogie!loogie@nat/unlab/x-jjgovrmabcrsorqg PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1380031051 429936 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380031408 273196 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380031461 402412 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist busy busy busy everyone's on LOFAF < 1380031463 145242 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist busy busy busy everyone's on LOFAF: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380031499 351447 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380031817 414414 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380031920 464745 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Hi < 1380032013 134574 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhello. < 1380032028 146641 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm from your friendly neighborhood; as for my body weight, it's about 88.8kg. < 1380032081 63502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: I'll put you in Pittsburgh, then. < 1380032102 118586 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not the *physical* neighborhood. < 1380032109 663898 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/physical/geographical/ < 1380032126 645963 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is slightly bored; why don't you try guessing? :-)
< 1380032141 599273 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name should be a big hint, and I've betrayed my continent above already. < 1380032150 374475 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in Pittsburgh, but in Montréal. Mr. Roger's Neighbourhood was produced in Pittsburgh. < 1380032196 764587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: the betrayal happened afore my connection to the chännel. let me lurk and slurch and gather intelligence in a most unsubtle manner... < 1380032226 691119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: but israel has been guessed already! < 1380032233 660465 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ooh, no. :-( < 1380032242 492847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : i once heard taneb punched a hole in the chancellor ← which one? < 1380032245 64210 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint (since I'm not too sure why you're all even trying, I'll make it a bit easier): < 1380032252 343408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well... the one < 1380032257 798535 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try Google, you'll find my name is rather unique. < 1380032275 899337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :already did < 1380032277 503767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're named after some ruins or sth idk < 1380032297 678129 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No, those ruins are named after me (or rather, after I was born)... :-) < 1380032331 594863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin is from the future (88 kg/hour!), from the ruins of Pittsburgh, Israel. < 1380032334 298906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok is this your site http://shikhin.in/ < 1380032348 141811 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha, got me... should be very easy, now. < 1380032357 446772 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not boily, but oerjan. :-) < 1380032442 48122 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, does 'shikhin' sound Israeli to you folks? < 1380032501 701233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: it's vaguely hebrew in phonology < 1380032517 740389 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380032550 262821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there actually _is_ such a place. < 1380032562 426829 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shikhin -- yeah, stole my name. < 1380032578 309411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we already have shachaf, a regular channel member. < 1380032587 127076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin, yes < 1380032597 163562 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf is close to shikhin? < 1380032647 303203 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they both have sh's and the hairball noise < 1380032653 978924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both typical semitic-sounding three-consonant words < 1380032700 164189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two of the consonants are the same, modulo slight transliteration difference < 1380032728 37404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the -kh- is probably not pronounced the same for a hebrew word as an indian one. < 1380032728 358035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf is it /ʃatʃaf/ or /ʃaχaf/ < 1380032728 676584 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380032737 998163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the latter. < 1380032755 175607 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shachaf oerjan clarified me. disregard the question. < 1380032755 501965 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380032766 550091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks. tdh. < 1380032803 152412 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Probably; I'd have given you the IPA, but I don't do well with IPA. < 1380032807 415654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expect the indian is actually /ʃikhin/ or so < 1380032825 202514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the h should be superscript, i don't know how to do that in irc. < 1380032829 523241 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's like the 'kh' in 'khan'; I guess more people do well with muslim names than Indian ones :-) < 1380032831 592028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Armenian is one of the few languages that has contrastive [χ] and [ʁ]. < 1380032831 939462 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently dh is 'z' in indian < 1380032840 737314 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin, or the ch in loch < 1380032847 999009 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Nope. < 1380032858 450742 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1380032862 854508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: [ç]? < 1380032864 15389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uvular, not velar < 1380032870 592265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: german might? < 1380032877 641261 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ich-laut. < 1380032881 658843 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I've not much clue how to read that, so, heh :-) < 1380032917 909976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: it's kinda like an s, but more “k”-ish, with your tongue stuck to your palate. < 1380032960 829694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know indo-aryan languages have aspirated plosives, so i assumed kh was one. also how i pronounce it in "khan" but i don't know if that is actually right. < 1380032962 612172 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Doesn't feel like it; let me think of an English word which matches with the pronunciation of 'kh'. < 1380033012 393370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course norwegian/english also have that sound - we just lack the _unaspirated_ version.) < 1380033017 479481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: english doesn't have it, sadly. such an interesting sound... < 1380033044 619059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian does := < 1380033046 938668 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad04HEqKIoA -- there, that does 'khan' properly. < 1380033047 550488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:) < 1380033064 860351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for a francophone, trying to make a difference between unaspirated/aspirated is next to impossible. < 1380033066 579906 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone of you provided the right alternative, do tell me :-) < 1380033076 544804 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin, there isn't one afaik < 1380033093 981727 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for English, yeah, can't think of any word. < 1380033095 728452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: i think that's what i thought it was. < 1380033110 201800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes. < 1380033110 596830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that's plosive < 1380033114 496614 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION presumes no one is stuck at 'shi' or 'in'.
< 1380033151 6931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: there are sound bits (of varying quality) for all the possible phonemes on wikipedia. < 1380033152 496941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: the _usual_ english pronunciation of k is aspirated, although not as much as in that youtube link < 1380033238 158501 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't as good with phonetics.
< 1380033282 936153 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, yeah, the 'kh' part looks plosive, if I'm going by the right definition. < 1380033309 254275 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is it uvular! < 1380033311 170579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: what is your mother language? < 1380033345 261200 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was taught both Hindi and English, as my first languages. < 1380033389 216807 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a velar plosive. < 1380033407 929086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i think the kh in shikhin and khan are like english k but a bit more aspirated. < 1380033444 787167 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Probably, yeah. < 1380033462 132443 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to figure out the difference between velar and uvular.
< 1380033540 506870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uvular is far back in the mouth, at the uvula which is that weird thing hanging down. < 1380033563 407172 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trilling the uvular is a fun activity. < 1380033566 251129 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's it. < 1380033586 500214 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, probably velar, yeah. < 1380033603 904462 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's a consonant I did not realise I could pronounce < 1380033628 23712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to repeat, i think german might contrast [χ] and [ʁ] ? < 1380033636 965549 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, amazing how everyone at #esoteric are phonetics experts? < 1380033637 361870 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380033666 750528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: some of them drive us others crazy by talking in japanese or french < 1380033678 555466 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1380033679 776575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. I didn't parse «german, might?» correctly the first time. < 1380033688 485604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i suspected so :) < 1380033747 422009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: je vois pas de quoi tu veux parler :D 僕は意味ないよ^^ < 1380033759 329071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1380033779 9779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least i understood that french. i think.) < 1380033823 108850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm not mean I" ? < 1380033852 689176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate sucks at Japanese... :/... < 1380033883 898537 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380033889 45576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: jeg kan også være ubegripelig hvis jeg vil! < 1380034063 19737 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: manqué. j'ai compris ta tentavie d'incompréhension :p < 1380034087 501850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need to remember "ubegripelig") < 1380034099 944560 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380034131 246253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hm it seems german pronounces -r at the end of words as a vowel, so maybe not. < 1380034216 303839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt doesn't know "tentavie" < 1380034375 243235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if german only uses [χ] at the end of syllables and [ʁ] at the beginning of syllables, finding a contrast might be hard. < 1380034433 405774 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to a German mind an [χ] is just a [ʁ] at the the end of a syllable, and vice versa < 1380034435 931185 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: tentative. < 1380034442 553586 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do not possess a German mind) < 1380034479 892721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i find that etymologically implausible. < 1380034537 657986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as they come from /g/ and /r/ in germanic respectively afaiu < 1380034551 34809 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fair enough < 1380034593 46265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: and also, /r/ at the end of a syllable becomes [ɐ̯] < 1380034622 462215 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::c < 1380034694 846212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Führer has a [ʁ] in it, so maybe it can work _between_ vowels. < 1380034700 200952 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380034716 887464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not that one, since [χ] needs a back vowel in front. < 1380034802 349521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm "fahren" can apparently be pronounced both ways. < 1380034945 743765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the audio clips sound like [χ] < 1380035056 724525 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380035097 18049 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380035109 141943 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380035128 297298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: psst "Homo Sapiens" is not a plural < 1380035170 814713 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'oh, thanks. :-) < 1380035197 769732 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380035221 120015 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to be pedantic, the plural is "homines sapientes" < 1380035247 531124 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homineses sapientises. < 1380035393 868745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argumentum ad hominem sapientem < 1380035452 213311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fell into a latin grammar as a child
< 1380036047 886191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IN ALTERNATIVUM UNIVERSAM, oerjan speaks latin. < 1380036100 618381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-O -O < 1380036713 380198 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380036939 101511 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380037135 588814 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380037528 725362 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380037545 461675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim is scary. < 1380037584 987768 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1380037627 454039 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a coworker helped me with some macro stuff. there are thiiiiiiings going on underneath vim's hood. < 1380037718 715651 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and my "w is polluted with all the editing I did lately on the Wisdom.) < 1380037722 292862 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380037724 468001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380037745 941034 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if this still works < 1380037750 684964 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastefortunes < 1380037773 476687 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28803 < 1380037796 528037 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems, yes < 1380037849 870424 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1380037850 166950 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at < 1380037850 312837 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace < 1380037850 313036 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal < 1380037850 313141 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction." < 1380037850 313245 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5] < 1380037856 507430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1380037859 609336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't see that. < 1380037883 213138 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is metasepia boily's? < 1380037926 745546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: it's usually mine. < 1380037935 893027 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now? < 1380037945 774290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~fortune < 1380037946 546987 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alimony is like buying oats for a dead horse. < 1380037946 702389 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric : -- Arthur Baer < 1380037969 818358 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: I... think I'm going to disown it if it persists to spew out stupid quotes. < 1380037980 440964 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380038007 386828 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what cmdchars are currently in use, here? < 1380038032 283357 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cmdprefixes < 1380038332 396728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, why do you have the offensive database turned on... < 1380039426 888230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1380039427 70596 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1380039441 394710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1380039710 585720 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380039714 3478 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380039725 809862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so horse_ebooks is just part of the pronunciationbook ARG < 1380039739 552737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to get off the internet. < 1380039749 772811 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I register # to oonbotti(|2|3) ? < 1380039863 903708 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i know what you're feeling :( < 1380039870 464701 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is honest and true < 1380039878 524978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't... I don't think I even have feelings any more. < 1380039905 678656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380039966 566379 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ok. we can get through this. unless it turns out i'm actually an advertisement for Ford™ Trucks (Truck Strong08:49 < HackEgo> http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28803. then you're on your own. < 1380039970 572927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:49 < nortti> it seems, yes < 1380039973 73197 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:50 < boily> ~fortune < 1380039975 576842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:50 < metasepia> "I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at < 1380039978 585494 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1380039979 930978 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, that's about as intelligent as what i was saying. < 1380040018 728833 :underfl0w!~user@188.25.165.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380040259 381076 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo foo < 1380040259 527159 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo foo < 1380040273 437536 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040273 582933 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040273 927720 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040274 73632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040274 274158 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040274 421742 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040274 666211 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040274 811512 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040275 90984 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040275 236913 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040275 498464 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040275 643750 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040276 182937 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040276 328174 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040276 516756 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040276 662485 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040277 43360 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040277 188980 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :#echo ^echo #echo ^echo < 1380040277 413328 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi PART :#esoteric < 1380040286 10666 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380040360 437244 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380040811 528694 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/09/-horse-ebooks-is-the-most-successful-piece-of-cyber-fiction-ever/279946/ < 1380040817 716359 :underfl1w!~user@188.25.165.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380040884 856664 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, all the tweets were still actually markov chained? < 1380040891 810574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's okay then. < 1380040901 498821 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't say either way < 1380040942 858614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it seems like it was actually a spambot to start with and then bought a few years ago? probably coinciding with when all the tweets started showing up as being posted from the web, cue apparently-correct conspiracy theories < 1380040999 848778 :underfl0w!~user@188.25.165.180 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380041057 539845 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not that deep into horse_ebooks historiography < 1380041172 679765 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380041279 135109 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380041508 848939 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1380041851 750570 :underfl1w!~user@188.25.165.180 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380042410 602230 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/why-were-shutting-our-comments "comments sections tend to be a grotesque reflection of the media culture surrounding them" so just shut 'em off totally < 1380042501 167215 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1380042539 247503 :tmatth!~tmatth@2607:fad8:4:6:222:15ff:fe34:96b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380042596 591008 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: can't remember why. < 1380042671 4440 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380042732 208265 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua JOIN :#esoteric < 1380043034 31953 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380043094 725043 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello folks from the mountains of Natal, South Africa. < 1380043132 226987 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is a wonderful internationesotical day! < 1380043135 742518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Guest2360 < 1380043139 138577 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14Gue08st2360: W11elcome to the i06nter05national14 hu14b for esoteric progr06amm03ing language desig13n an13d deploymen08t! For03 mo02r12e infor14mat10ion, c09he12ck out our wiki: http://05esolangs04.o06rg/wiki/Main_Pa07ge. (For 07the o12ther kind of esot07eri08c11a, try #eso06teric on irc.dal.ne03t.) < 1380043185 267945 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you for the greeting. < 1380043196 302437 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 PART :#esoteric < 1380043205 17345 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect. < 1380043213 852543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1380043383 239137 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1380043392 193869 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380043420 63880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm getting that framed, it was so perfect an example of the proper sequence of welcoming events. < 1380043513 187197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :would have been better with rainwords :( < 1380043642 217891 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a corowking haskeller is slowly transiting to the Rust side of the Force. < 1380043647 845373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380043652 358309 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Client Quit < 1380043663 119689 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380043710 487569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/row/wor/ < 1380043773 839735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ Haskell is "the" standard lazy functional programming language. ]] --Debian 'ghc' package description. < 1380043780 747659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1380043783 580169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1380043809 798863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does your friend want to use Rust for? < 1380043814 741341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really an alternative to Haskell, of course... < 1380043841 921223 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1380043843 158751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a use??? it's only for learning and exploring. < 1380043849 301021 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot shikhin SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1380043851 719275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380043863 496367 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's a lisper at heart, but dabbles in everything he can get to compile on his machine. < 1380043863 721597 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, d'oh, that's what it does. < 1380043871 941971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :supreme butt < 1380043879 87981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sui! < 1380044194 50616 :tiger717!~tiger717@unaffiliated/tiger717 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380044232 844265 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome tiger717 < 1380044235 717034 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0412tiger717:10 Welcome to the inte02rnational hub for esoteric programming12 09languag08e design a04nd dep08loyment! For more 04inform02ation, 03ch02eck 12out our wiki: http://esola04ngs.o14rg/wiki/Ma11in_Pa11ge. (Fo04r th03e07 other kind of esoterica06, 07t09ry #eso07teric03 o12n i08r07c.dal.net.) < 1380044247 920351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need autocompletion on bot commands. < 1380044272 117638 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380044293 808120 :tiger717!~tiger717@unaffiliated/tiger717 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Thanks! < 1380044328 733224 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that # people are slowly flowing over here < 1380044434 658762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: strangely, no Colombians today. < 1380044471 391965 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's anyone from colombia on # < 1380044509 281885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. is a valid channel name... < 1380044547 621574 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380044598 129490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1380044625 553227 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :D. < 1380044728 886381 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380044756 355720 :Guest2360!~RJS@197.77.194.217 PART :#esoteric < 1380044889 876959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RFCistically speaking, most things are valid channel names, since the only prohibited octets are NUL, BEL, LF, CR, space, comma and colon. < 1380044901 405205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, freenode seems to take a dim view on control characters in channel names. < 1380044928 709193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRCnet is perfectly happy with e.g. #esoteric < 1380045002 673356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«#⎈ :Illegal channel name». bummer. < 1380045054 283893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://sprunge.us/NRHS <- IRCnet. < 1380045119 92655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you /join #̈ < 1380045122 898074 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380045138 448216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :espernet has a # < 1380045146 49906 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :* #̈ :Illegal channel name < 1380045146 754287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so does freenode < 1380045170 76368 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, oh, damn invisible unicodes < 1380045220 350074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode seems very narrow-minded about this. < 1380045230 938830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bigots < 1380045417 150264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/science/2013/09/computer-simulations-suggest-war-drove-the-rise-of-civilizations/ i feel like this deserves to be laughed at < 1380045718 215688 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's obviously true, or because it manages to be unconvincing of something which is obviously true? < 1380046021 893992 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ars technica < 1380046022 228622 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ars Technica (Latin-derived for the "art of technology") is a technology news and information website created by Ken Fisher and Jon Stokes in 1998. < 1380046024 816240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well because it seems like a really shoddy basis on which to do anthropology < 1380046034 742897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, please stop doing that < 1380046044 676410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck no < 1380046045 57819 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Formed by the flood waters of the White Nile, it varies in size seasonally. < 1380046566 990813 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380046710 458167 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380046906 102125 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1380047259 693011 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1380047612 428872 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380047945 730612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :arse technica < 1380048019 774506 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380048154 335428 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380049098 878283 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Let's just hold all our conversations in DuckDuckGo search queries from now on. < 1380049099 165598 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1380049122 952882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: that's silly. even I won't do that. < 1380049127 479667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck silly < 1380049127 808272 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SillyHair Kara is an adjective meaning having foolish hair!!! or in a foolish manner. < 1380049315 221789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not and say we did < 1380049369 403444 :tmatth!~tmatth@2607:fad8:4:6:222:15ff:fe34:96b0 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1380049582 335644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :SillyHair Kara sounds like someone related to Real Fast Nora. < 1380049624 323982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly an archenemy or something. < 1380049849 719932 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Database returned error "145: Table './esolang_wiki/searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (localhost)". < 1380049851 644139 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome < 1380049871 200474 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Perhaps SillyHair Kara is the perpetrator of the Shear-related Disaster! < 1380049902 270722 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380049910 268880 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1380049913 94178 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Above. < 1380049915 611514 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: HELLO FRIEND < 1380050038 497465 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziello. Fihellora. Grellor. < 1380050139 700730 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380050285 220153 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1380050314 670715 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sillyhair...? kara? < 1380050321 172087 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380050330 244735 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are right cosets sometimes called left cosets, and how does that make sense at all < 1380050347 369889 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, I'd like to return from my exile from your channel < 1380050355 659871 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :May I? < 1380050357 732682 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exile...? < 1380050361 87752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :channel? < 1380050367 95874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. um. currently it's kind of just a private channel for a couple people < 1380050371 112583 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reasons < 1380050390 64929 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this also mean that left cosets are sometimes called right cosets? < 1380050395 95321 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I'll regoin < 1380050413 105688 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah I can't regoin it's invite only < 1380050416 111724 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even rejoin < 1380050417 881943 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume so unless the people who call right cosets left cosets have another name for left cosets < 1380050473 492422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Apparently we look so much alike that people confuse which one they were talking to. (I deduce you're some kind of bearded dude.) < 1380050546 635112 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :on wikipedia, xH is called a left coset < 1380050549 171552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a right coset < 1380050575 758821 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: too many people starting with fi- in the same place < 1380050592 537352 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why though, I thought you got xH by using right multiplication as a group action < 1380050612 524846 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :fi- < 1380050615 199352 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think I'm either of those :P < 1380050625 754584 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :FinotherTest < 1380050657 239686 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1380050678 504150 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, soln. change nick to zFiora < 1380050679 115458 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi- FinotherTest Fiora FireFly fizzie WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY (also sorry for pinging you FireFly) < 1380050697 203324 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net NICK :fitaneb < 1380050702 577804 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1380050717 278665 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now known as Firegor
< 1380050719 942004 :fitaneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never see a bandwagon without jumping on it < 1380050729 908566 :FinotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need oerjan < 1380050734 232009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Fintom_Hoover < 1380050738 503257 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are bandwagons common in Hexham? < 1380050746 478289 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaa < 1380050750 860826 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :help everyone is fiii < 1380050756 518841 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: The internal combustion engine has not yet reached Hexham. < 1380050762 74138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone's looking fine. < 1380050765 775161 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi! 'tis a dire predicament indeed < 1380050775 569849 :fitaneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, we have a shop that sells "Horseless Carriages" < 1380050783 693846 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :feefifofum < 1380050789 999309 :feefifofum!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1380050805 191519 :fitaneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Hexham Horseless Carriages < 1380050806 544118 :fi-!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the final countdown! doo doo doo dooooo ♪ do-do-do do doooo ♪ < 1380050811 632207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :φ. < 1380050812 384443 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric : Or rather, had, until the owner was killed for heresy. < 1380050824 218347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi < 1380050829 683698 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :.< < 1380050861 857409 :fi-!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you should rename yourself to fingot. < 1380050862 2507 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi-: need a clone? the magician, nolstein bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1380050871 835936 :fitaneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1380050875 743714 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1380050876 848784 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering the country of origin distribution of people in the channel.. it seems fitting < 1380050876 994060 :fi-!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net NICK :boily < 1380050882 765633 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is this nolstein bekkler < 1380050892 268663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a magician. < 1380050893 396357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fintom_Hoover: can I subtly ~duck him? < 1380050897 39234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows how to make clones. < 1380050897 208875 :FinotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're /fi/nally done with the /fi/ thing? < 1380050901 786576 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, no < 1380050903 861258 :FinotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1380050907 600702 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY. < 1380050942 378369 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do it nonsubtly < 1380050965 480667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck nolstein bekkler < 1380050965 772054 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1380050970 604076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is very ungood that if you change the nick of a fungot, it'll still only respond if the old name is spoken, it's not terribly self-aware. < 1380050970 749669 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's time you jumped off this mortal coil... < 1380050974 801946 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Norstein Bekkler's Tent of Horrors is in the Present < 1380050998 157777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Again you go with the death threats. < 1380050998 302775 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is the gate key okay!! get' em! 200g per night. care, and stay...healthy! my husband...he's...he's...gone... but he left me precious gifts! the seeds...and our child, it's ancient history now... < 1380051000 942389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the 'got is right. shed off your mortal coil! < 1380051023 376880 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :when we have suffl'd of this mortal coil, must give us pause < 1380051045 544656 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it on shakespeare mode or something / does it know shakespeare < 1380051052 925591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No / yes. < 1380051055 900938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ss < 1380051056 46157 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ss (Shakespeare's writings) < 1380051079 654702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think Shakespeare wrote so much about the gate key.) < 1380051087 290014 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungor: What is the question? < 1380051093 20651 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :*fungot :( < 1380051093 872993 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: hildersham. was that the king that spurd his horse so hard, against the forme of a souldier i will vndertake it < 1380051098 342697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: shed shed shed, shed your booty! < 1380051099 875772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pros. marke his condition, and th' euent, then tell me, hero: wooing, wedding, and repenting is as a louers pinch, which hurts and is desir'd. dost thou speake? your eyes do menace me: why looke you pale, mistris? do you heare monster: if i loose them, thus find i by their losse, for valentine, my selfe haue anne page < 1380051109 679070 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it even has v instead of u < 1380051138 604649 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice, very fancy < 1380051139 4748 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all sourced from randomish Project Gutenberg texts. < 1380051147 880622 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fvngot < 1380051162 919961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ualentine, which incidentally was how a former Chinese coworker pronounced it. < 1380051183 749186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(took me several days to catch on on what he was talking about.) < 1380051226 247148 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :uelly uelly intlesting < 1380051268 82838 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, does anyone know why some people call right cosets left cosets? < 1380051361 620462 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Everything you view and contribute on Facebook is private and will not appear on Facebook" <-- some site that wants me to log in with facebook < 1380051636 109776 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/392841/what-is-the-reason-for-the-name-left-coset < 1380051686 858025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sinister cosets < 1380051737 191207 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all weird < 1380051760 374552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book I'm reading uses right for what's usually called left it appears < 1380052457 527731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: turn the book around. < 1380052786 167118 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380053786 883497 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could just call them cosets < 1380053815 936396 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a difference between left and right cosets, keep the terminology the same everywhere < 1380053922 269311 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this is making me feel miserable. < 1380053950 331281 :tiger717!~tiger717@unaffiliated/tiger717 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380055468 642436 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380055675 226224 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380056177 196088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380056198 737089 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380056225 158530 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380056282 194027 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380056508 652709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti Registering new bot prefixes needs to be done separately on fungot, HackEgo and EgoBot (and presumably any new bot that allows anyone to make a prefixes command.) Incidentally the fungot process is a pain at the moment because of jconn's unmatched ), can i interest you in using a ( prefix? < 1380056508 834343 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380056509 419138 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actus secundus. scoena prima. coriolanus. well, masters, good night indeed. who's that i pray'thee? bawd. marry sir, so painted, to make misfortune liue? groo. i was < 1380056554 89780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: won't a ( prefix break havoc all-around the chännel? < 1380056568 444443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(inasmuch the channel can be more broken thant what it is at the moment...) < 1380057655 26253 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380057832 179141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well (-space is also acceptable, jconn does )-space after all. < 1380057859 742169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Using brainfuck instead of just writing [CLOSE PARENTHESIS YO] shows commendable dedication. < 1380057898 376626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also not all robots give an error message on unknown commands. fungot doesn't. < 1380057899 128702 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: viola. the honourable lady of the house i did enquire for? cel. it pleases your worship to morrow morning let vs meete him then, whom you accuse, let me redeeme my brothers both from death < 1380057904 465120 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380057929 209578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IT DOES DOESN'T IT? < 1380057935 133777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Groo." --fungot < 1380057935 587423 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: car. what, sir, i haue a letter from the cardinal? norfolk. my lord < 1380057992 811122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^groo < 1380058005 812860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest part isn't generating the brainfuck, but breaking it up and serving it to fungot ^str btw. < 1380058005 957977 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cam. good my lord < 1380058042 535119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaurgh. I have this empty void in my heart that can only be filled by a mechanical keyboard, but they're expensive! < 1380058047 965059 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Groo. Cam. < 1380058075 868574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mechanical keyboards are _not_ recommended as pacemakers. < 1380058198 843266 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't care. my fingers are more important than my internal organs, stomach notwithstanding. < 1380058216 140078 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still need something to process down phở, mind you) < 1380058245 556155 :nooodl_!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1380058271 53930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1380058314 174085 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380058331 298966 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380058389 374563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the _ conspiracy is growing < 1380058474 374540 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my name is still stupid < 1380058477 887699 :Fintom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1380058528 637157 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380058568 648024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i dunno, michael is pretty ordinary. < 1380058606 446805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cannot recall if he's ever learned Phantom_Hoover's first name.
< 1380058616 402309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a mystery for the ages < 1380058657 758514 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks I can remember like half of it
< 1380058695 103246 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "Phantom"? < 1380058701 57345 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: like all the vokals? < 1380058709 260244 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaah crap < 1380058713 923714 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :freaking _ < 1380058720 673766 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, no (yes (no)) < 1380058831 577276 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :J. Edgar Hoover gave his kids really weird names. < 1380058835 412040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you are of the _iform. < 1380058856 439846 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: jedgar was Frank Zappa in disguise. < 1380058870 846424 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380059028 566515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: or wait is it actually micheál < 1380059053 939351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you think i am, french < 1380059056 394301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or mícheál < 1380059066 594310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: of northern irish descent? < 1380059078 46305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michaël? < 1380059086 881794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :putting accents all over the place doesn't make it irish! < 1380059115 188184 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the French version. < 1380059133 332483 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380059144 785304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well google gave me these variations < 1380059169 605415 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: *sneeze* < 1380059198 774002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh < 1380059222 586537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mícheál Ó Domhnaill < 1380059249 969174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where are you even getting this shit from < 1380059264 175220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google < 1380059370 533738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ what i vaguely recall of your real name. < 1380059396 994019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or being claimed to be it, anyway. < 1380059437 986070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you keep telling people Phantom_Hoover's real name is Adahn, an Adahn will appear at a bar in the Hive. < 1380059480 47446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway google somehow thinks accents and switched vowels is just the thing for irish michaels. < 1380059489 490916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is that a reference < 1380059498 894029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To Planescape: Torment, yes. < 1380059517 507041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380059543 222221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (If you, as the player character, keep answering the (imaginary) "Adahn" whenever someone asks for your name, Adahn the Imagined, a very confused person, will indeed appear.) < 1380059661 215537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should add PS:T as one of fungot's game options. It's as long as a book, so it might not be as repetitive as some other styles. < 1380059662 476347 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: petruchio. did ever dian so become a groue as kate this chamber with her princely gait? o! if you be so good touchstone: look you how pale he glares, his forme and cause conioyn'd, preaching to stones, would make them capeable. do not presume to tempt them with ill words, nor worth, action, nor vtterance, nor the deuision of the twentieth part of one. < 1380059705 718027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, a long book, apparently, at 800k words.) < 1380060192 911612 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380060462 215939 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sireously bil gatess is a master class programmer bro nobody can make windows like show smooth and sweat < 1380060480 596628 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :Bike > 1380060480 988818 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380060511 29671 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is best programme rin the world dude < 1380060758 927173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike doesn't need voice, he needs an exorcism. < 1380060781 583098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly to guard his computer better. < 1380060795 258151 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bil gates is master class programmer but he dont speak about it < 1380061200 175905 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380061237 561080 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380061877 858435 :azaq231!~derivecto@p54AB05FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380061953 167638 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380062554 418105 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380062617 550049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest presumably they can't agree whether "left" refers to the side of the single element or the subgroup? i don't even remember which convention we used. < 1380062617 695283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380062618 200190 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :luslus dec sigfas cen dec bartis a tis pat sigbar soq dec soq ketcab pat wutgal tis pel zero a per tislus b tis pat barhep wutcol tis pel a lus pel b per per b buc pel b lus pel b per per < 1380062634 811179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: OKAY < 1380062859 918830 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I rename every file named foo_[stuff] in a directory to just [stuff]? I'm bad at shell. < 1380062878 400366 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: use the rename program < 1380062885 661409 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: rename 's/^foo_//' * < 1380062899 623250 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Weird, my rename doesn't do regex < 1380062900 607020 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hey. < 1380062904 142383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, hmm. < 1380062907 814004 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the Perl rename. < 1380062911 971365 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except I just put this in git. < 1380062912 645713 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rename 'foo_' '' * for the other one maybe. < 1380062920 558043 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that should work < 1380062941 19995 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should have renamed before gitting. < 1380062966 22235 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: for file in foo_*; do git mv $file $(echo $file | sed 's/^foo_//'); done ? < 1380062975 470668 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know, useless use of sed. but I forget bash's replacement syntax all the time >_>) < 1380062988 604314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't do this if your filenames have spaces in them, etc. etc. etc. also git doesn't actually track renames. < 1380062990 507811 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :too late!! < 1380063010 178005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for... what < 1380063034 221759 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for i already did the rename < 1380063037 339096 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380063156 134303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380063176 526943 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, get rid of the commit pernamently < 1380063180 494383 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And add the files < 1380063187 258215 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said too late! < 1380063219 545956 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can edit history < 1380063237 306351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can do the git mvs anyway, if the resulting filenames have a pattern you can glob over < 1380063259 828405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I guess you have to git rm/git add if they already got renamed. < 1380063280 387976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also just git reset --hard and then do the git mvs, of course! < 1380063507 67106 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs, downloads all files again
< 1380063951 879962 :azaq231!~derivecto@p54AB05FE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380064448 496046 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380064764 808192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :for f in foo_*; do mv $f ${f/foo_/}; done # the manual way < 1380064773 300377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not too late at all.) < 1380064807 744320 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally started from scratch four times in the interim, no worries. < 1380064912 76615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You can always make a local copy < 1380064933 532563 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i was doing. since davfs won't let me touch files and such for some reason. < 1380065910 169855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380066440 550214 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< 1380066911 515042 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@c-75-70-167-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net NICK :Guest301 < 1380066927 856333 :Guest301!~SirCmpwn@c-75-70-167-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1380066928 1547 :Guest301!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1380066938 218037 :Guest301!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn NICK :SirCmpwn < 1380066948 217189 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380069495 880725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380071261 15866 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380071266 195796 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380071272 686229 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380071302 872492 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380073903 226762 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380073927 183724 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380074119 977959 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1380074122 151996 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ping < 1380074127 377805 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong! < 1380074889 458213 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380075018 37114 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380075086 908333 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1380075554 186868 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380078034 466096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380078161 744971 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380079924 930003 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380080125 300971 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380085285 725077 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-151.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380085403 762127 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380086257 688306 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380087164 880843 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1380087887 552078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1380087898 939672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, no METARsepia present. < 1380087924 214477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 °C, brr. < 1380088787 381464 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380088790 554850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380088832 10167 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380088834 224828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380088847 388458 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Isn't `list what you're looking for? < 1380088849 135416 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380088852 953532 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380088865 94192 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist is the homestuck list. < 1380088867 136131 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti told me that `slist changed into `list. < 1380088869 749955 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1380088886 474248 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what list is, sorry ^^; < 1380088894 150501 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`list < 1380088898 860893 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 atriq Bike boily cuttlefish elliott fgrep Fiora fungot HackEgo metasepia mnoqy monqy Ngevd nortti oklopol Phantom_Hoover pikhq quintopia Roujo Sgeo SgeoBot shikhin SUPREME_BUTT_SUI Taneb < 1380088901 485496 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1380088904 261168 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look like the same thing < 1380088906 370267 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1380088951 201495 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/list < 1380088952 607736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ grep '^..:..:..: <[^>]*> `list' /var/irclogs/_esoteric/201[3-9]-??-??.txt | sed 's/^.*.*//;s/_*$//' | sort -u | tr '\n' ' ' < 1380088994 939758 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/slist < 1380088996 756076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo -n "$(basename "$0")${@:+ }$@: "; tail -n+2 "$0" | xargs; exit \ Taneb \ atriq \ Ngevd \ Fiora \ nortti \ Sgeo \ ThatOtherPerson \ alot < 1380089187 888008 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1380089189 182558 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1380089200 643012 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1380089202 484787 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoami: cannot find name for user ID 5000 < 1380089214 427629 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hostname < 1380089216 44450 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :umlbox < 1380089222 375694 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380089222 759068 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380089234 495011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, where's the crack about hacking again < 1380089235 928428 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well whatever. < 1380089246 625347 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome shikhin < 1380089250 381575 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04shi05khi03n: Welcome to the international09 hub fo02r esoteric04 progra09mming langu02age02 design and 09deployment08! For more informa02tion, check out our wiki11: http:/14/esolangs.org05/wiki/Ma10in_Pa14ge. 05(04For t07he other k06ind o13f eso13t12eri14ca, try09 #e03soteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380089256 807776 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I got the welcome, yesterday :-) < 1380089286 284370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little collateral damage never hurt nobody important < 1380089381 197336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome shikhin | rainwords < 1380089384 304352 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13shikhin: 6Welcome 4to 7the 8international 9hub 2for 13esoteric 6programming 4language 7design 8and 9deployment! 2For 13more 6information, 4check 7out 8our 9wiki: 2http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 13(For 6the 4other 7kind 8of 9esoterica, 2try 13#esoteric 6on 4irc.dal.net.) < 1380089399 901827 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380089417 38067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much better innit < 1380089425 5299 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome kmc Bike < 1380089427 173004 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380089438 890576 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1380089444 466165 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run run < 1380089445 872463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: run: command not found < 1380089455 354048 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname -a < 1380089456 985549 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux umlbox 3.7.0-umlbox #1 Wed Feb 13 23:30:40 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1380089470 851037 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who hosts HackEgo? < 1380089473 961397 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ifconfig < 1380089475 251822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: ifconfig: command not found < 1380089483 739522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: it's gregor's pregorative < 1380089491 669485 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't spell that word < 1380089502 575216 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :prerogative? < 1380089506 50340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorative < 1380089507 109574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1380089551 629012 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dmesg | tail < 1380089553 327000 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop: module loaded \ TCP: cubic registered \ NET: Registered protocol family 10 \ sit: IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver \ Initialized stdio console driver \ Console initialized on /dev/tty0 \ console [tty0] enabled \ Initializing software serial port version 1 \ console [mc-1] enabled \ ubda: unknown partition table < 1380089565 619353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dmesg | paste < 1380089571 862049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.26859 < 1380089586 391514 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l | paste < 1380089592 994821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.5680 < 1380089608 398054 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice n short < 1380089621 22947 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat quotes | paste < 1380089626 891343 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.16508 < 1380089628 806586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ran http://codemonkey.org.uk/projects/trinity/ against UMLBox and pretty quickly found something that would hang the "VM", but nothing more interesting < 1380089648 114954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can just do uh < 1380089649 798884 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url paste < 1380089651 758483 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste < 1380089652 370568 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that? < 1380089655 870124 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UML is pretty dodgy and weird and obscure though, so there probably is some VM breakout exploit if you want to find it < 1380089733 683630 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"User-Mode Linux is a safe, secure way of running [stuff]." < 1380089734 797172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: check out the wisdom pdf for all our stupid bullshit in pleasantly ignorable form < 1380089752 187636 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yeah, it's on my read-me :-) < 1380089810 311677 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a readme? < 1380089835 821678 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like this page has all the wrong information... I don't want to *use* UML, I want to know how it works < 1380089850 583927 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not readme, read-me. :P < 1380089865 109487 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These are the articles that want to be read by me." < 1380089868 237195 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds too complicated for me < 1380089936 394663 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380090740 223506 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it works by running processes with ptrace to catch their system calls, and seems to actually run the "kernel" code inside those processes while temporarily disabling system call tracing < 1380090758 169848 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(according to http://kernel.org/doc/ols/2001/uml.pdf) < 1380090970 369048 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-151.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1380090989 660864 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-151.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380090989 846108 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380091066 231672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: They have (had?) different modes; that's the TT ("Tracing Thread") one. < 1380091084 959271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's also the SKAS ("Separate Kernel Address Space") mode, which I think had two different versions. < 1380091138 45576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter needs (needed?) some specific patches in the host kernel. < 1380091142 957491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/old/skas.html -- might be kinda outdated. < 1380091180 984442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These patches are against 2.4.19 --" yes, very modern. < 1380091201 637285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380091270 11252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia claims that "A method of running a separate kernel address space (SKAS) that does not require host kernel patching has been implemented". < 1380091275 200848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[citation needed] < 1380091885 864728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run grep skas /proc/cpuinfo < 1380091887 427089 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mode : skas < 1380092058 151291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose even skas mode involves ptrace, but it only has a single UML userspace process and not one host process per guest process. < 1380092083 616445 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: no, `slist used to be named `list < 1380092369 525983 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan why '(' and why would using it make fungot process a less of a pain? < 1380092369 671417 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380092370 598866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: anne. no, no, nor never make fair weather yet a while, and like me banished, then mightest thou teare thy hayre, and fall a cursing like a very drab. a scullion? fye vpon't: foh. about my stature: for at pentecost, when all that is mine < 1380092372 597395 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lkml.org/lkml/2005/7/1/203 has some details on this "skas0" mode (skas without host kernel patches) < 1380092435 682490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like what I expected in the first place instead of the "Tracing Thread" mode < 1380092595 467749 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it does still involve some code running inside each UML process, and ptrace < 1380092646 349376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :static int show_cpuinfo(struct seq_file *m, void *v) { [...] seq_printf(m, "mode\t\t: skas\n"); < 1380092651 746207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also seems to be the only mode these days. < 1380095655 274091 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380095824 727081 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380098464 662386 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380101288 925425 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380101532 189426 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380101751 118049 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380102911 298331 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380103967 837463 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380104244 210454 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380105644 198259 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380106585 555561 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.usenix.org/system/files/1309_14-17_mickens.pdf < 1380107530 904722 :oonbotti2!~oonbotti2@dsl-olubrasgw2-54f87d-247.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380107924 205381 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380108186 92801 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380108327 541151 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380108501 80806 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380109342 194198 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380110139 277411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380110441 296110 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380112638 304529 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380112819 537973 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380113056 121890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380113257 533182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti because then i can define the command in simple underload fitting in one irc line instead of generated brainfuck that needs to be fed in through several lines. (underload has very simple printing but cannot handle unmatched parentheses.) < 1380113257 717931 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380113312 593517 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm < 1380113362 981812 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, for oonbotti3, I was already going to do that < 1380113393 229724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait are these 3 different bots, there's only so many bots we can fit you know. < 1380113424 294445 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, oonbotti3 will replace ob2, like ob2 replaced ob < 1380113429 946222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1380113502 68131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also someone pointed out plain ( might not be a good idea, (+space might work better. < 1380113511 387243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of people speaking like this.) < 1380113559 331221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that only matters if oonbotti? reacts to unknown commands. < 1380113662 844299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell shikhin nortti told me that `slist changed into `list. <-- no it's the other way around, `slist used to be called just `list before the lists multiplied. < 1380113662 989532 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380113698 767073 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Ah. < 1380113710 616510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you were here. < 1380113745 300466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i somehow got confused about your spelling when checking. < 1380113826 189166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380113834 101756 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380114093 441382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : wait, where's the crack about hacking again < 1380114100 288678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1380114104 600411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1380114147 324836 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380114176 640094 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf / < 1380114178 63956 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: it is dangerous to operate recursively on `/' \ rm: use --no-preserve-root to override this failsafe < 1380114191 119623 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I succeed? :P < 1380114200 371091 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good imagination < 1380114203 790306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1380114207 360176 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Why? < 1380114264 876955 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -rf / --no-preserve-root < 1380114270 104904 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1380114273 890243 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bam. < 1380114276 328499 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380114276 685181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380114278 976898 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380114309 501603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimist < 1380114336 1151 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I already told him that < 1380114343 430045 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1380114345 833569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1380114358 520015 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/meta_bg_resize': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/batched_discard': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/ext4/features/lazy_itable_init': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/fs/cgroup': Permission denied \ rm: cannot remove `/sys/bus/cpu/devices/cpu0': Permission < 1380114358 713037 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run pwd < 1380114365 753776 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, rm is still going on. < 1380114372 409772 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, wasn't it running with root? < 1380114375 407283 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1380114377 908533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1380114393 463190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: that part of the message was meant ironically. < 1380114409 873955 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'oh. < 1380114431 216113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're still welcome to try to break out of the sandbox, i think. < 1380114449 46271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think anyone has got very far. < 1380114484 587100 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run shutdown -h NOW < 1380114485 188258 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380114485 986463 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: shutdown: command not found < 1380114488 345760 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1380114492 812124 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run restart < 1380114494 304333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: restart: command not found < 1380114501 978684 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that's as far as I can try. < 1380114504 16965 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up.
< 1380114505 562856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very few people manage to break things enough that we cannot just fix it with the `revert command. < 1380114507 193449 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380114519 147672 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps very few are motivated enough? < 1380114520 355153 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1380114522 373609 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​�#t/dev/null | grep -q ^752129 ; then echo 'As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead.'; else exec -a ls /bin/ls "$@"; fi < 1380114711 67332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: presumably the inode changed again. < 1380114717 673554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`/bin/ls wisdom < 1380114719 798127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ `? \ _̰̆̓_�̦̻̖͍̟̖̅ͭͭͬ͡_͉̭ͧ͒̐_͂͋͒ͧ͋�̯͙̬̬̦̯̋_̴̝̔̉̅ͨ͞ \ ? \ ?? \ @ \ ⊥ \ ⌨ \ ☃ \ 🐐 \ ̸̸̼͚͇̮͕̳̞̤̜̯̪̪̱̣̠̺̹͍̩̝͚͕͓͚̙͓̪̮̟̜̣͙̪̂ͭ̎̏̔ͦ͒ͪ͌̾ͦͨ̚̚͢͢͠ͅ҉̴̢_͙̣̿̊ͣ̉ͣͪ͒̓̐͊̏ͫ̓̚̚�͎͎͙̪̪̝̖͉̟̭̻̥̫̗̱̗͍̳̦̮̟̲̥͔҉̕͜͠͠҉̡̧̛ < 1380114764 689891 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /bin/ls -id wisdom < 1380114766 225764 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :969195 wisdom < 1380114778 762722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/b018e83c2886/wisdom < 1380114794 654663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/752129/969195/g' bin/ls < 1380114798 657145 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380114802 879127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls wisdom < 1380114804 821415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try `pastewisdom instead. < 1380114826 1047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /bin/l < 1380114826 187529 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380114827 708729 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste /bin/ls < 1380114827 856699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip//bin/l < 1380114827 856801 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380114829 559519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as necessary as it used to be, obviously. < 1380114829 704713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip//bin/ls < 1380114839 188270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380114901 19075 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there a .swp file in hackenv? < 1380114904 173099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i doubt /bin/ls is a readable script. hm i guess the `paste file optimization doesn't deal well with files outside the repository. < 1380114922 182476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: someone ran vim maybe? < 1380114936 737797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr something like that. < 1380114946 921612 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim leaves _behind_ swap files? < 1380114961 633169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: when it errors out due to having no terminal, maybe? < 1380115006 907948 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm *.swp < 1380115008 283879 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `*.swp': No such file or directory < 1380115011 956947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: that's sort of the point of having them in the first place, so you can restore after errors. < 1380115016 19925 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380115017 450328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm .swp < 1380115022 223311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115041 349741 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`vim < 1380115053 437169 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1380115066 946783 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets killed after a while < 1380115070 950194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: files starting with . are excluded from expansions < 1380115072 879309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vim: Warning: Output is not to a terminal \ [?25h[?8c[?25h[?0c[?25l[?1c~ ~ ~ < 1380115083 208412 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1380115087 189851 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took really long to figure that out, didn't it? < 1380115087 863178 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo * < 1380115089 239002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: oh right it may just have been killed right. < 1380115089 471488 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* < 1380115095 172166 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380115097 14339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380115098 649368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1380115108 358043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -a < 1380115109 909872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ .. \ bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ .hg \ .hg_archival.txt \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ no \ oerjan \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380115118 869581 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1380115124 140553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems no swap this time. < 1380115131 471070 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file no < 1380115132 866579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :no: ERROR: cannot open `no' (No such file or directory) < 1380115143 548698 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch no < 1380115143 866310 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file ' no' < 1380115147 450935 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ no: empty < 1380115149 958123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115164 143756 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm no ' no' < 1380115168 220570 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115169 957818 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380115194 188459 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380115304 414442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1380115307 190274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls .swp < 1380115309 262022 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access .swp: No such file or directory < 1380115311 973585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1380115370 603068 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -aF < 1380115372 227047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​./ \ ../ \ bi \ bin/ \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints@ \ delvs* \ delvs-master/ \ dog \ etc/ \ factor/ \ .hg/ \ .hg_archival.txt \ ibin/ \ index.html \ interps/ \ lib/ \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ oerjan/ \ paste/ \ pref \ prefs \ quines/ \ quotes \ share/ \ src/ \ wisdom/ \ wisdom.pdf < 1380115377 835271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: i vaguely suspect there's a race condition between vim detecting no terminal and HackEgo timing out the process, so it only happens when HackEgo is strained? maybe. < 1380115388 768334 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -aF oerjan/ < 1380115393 423410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1380115400 430888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's -F ? < 1380115413 719550 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shows / for dirs, * for executables < 1380115423 853092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls oerjan < 1380115425 732160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1380115438 29218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff oerjan/cat cat < 1380115438 313101 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat oerjan/cat < 1380115439 592823 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1380115439 738066 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115450 354684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm oerjan/cat < 1380115450 500074 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run delvs < 1380115453 750068 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115455 743648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir oerjan < 1380115455 889324 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: delvs: command not found < 1380115457 361075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115461 974757 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./delvs < 1380115463 587118 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: ./delvs < 1380115466 831039 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./delvs foo < 1380115468 268658 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: "foo" not found < 1380115472 422180 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ./delvs dog < 1380115474 303355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115477 55656 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1380115478 505914 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ < 1380115480 535433 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1380115493 342524 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch file < 1380115497 469677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115498 583378 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Hi > file < 1380115500 124872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi > file < 1380115503 315176 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste delvs < 1380115505 272869 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/delvs < 1380115511 206760 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good idea. < 1380115535 584846 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, can't read x86 machine lang < 1380115549 359161 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ndisasm < 1380115550 460700 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ndisasm: not found < 1380115552 825816 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs --help < 1380115554 136964 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: "--help" not found < 1380115606 57578 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run readelf -s delvs | paste < 1380115612 361581 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10305 < 1380115614 366940 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat mind < 1380115615 920677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115622 414428 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs mind < 1380115624 87466 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115624 247337 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat mind < 1380115625 616700 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115651 407092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls delvs-master/samples < 1380115653 138801 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi.bf \ hi-bool.bf \ multiply.bf \ readfile.bf \ writefile.bf \ writetonull.bf < 1380115657 69502 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380115663 820626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it may be a bf interpreter < 1380115664 950053 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck? < 1380115674 576516 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/hi.bf < 1380115676 261937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: "delvs-master/hi.bf" not found < 1380115681 362990 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just going to say "it might be interpreter, it has symbol called lexer" < 1380115686 60845 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: :D < 1380115697 594198 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/hi.bf < 1380115699 73447 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1380115703 664505 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/hi-bool.bf < 1380115704 991724 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1380115707 919480 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380115713 101258 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste delvs-master/samples/hi-bool.bf < 1380115714 480941 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/multiple.bf < 1380115715 628306 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/delvs-master/samples/hi-bool.bf < 1380115715 956999 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: "delvs-master/samples/multiple.bf" not found < 1380115720 385243 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/multiply.bf < 1380115744 409000 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/multiply.bf 1 2 < 1380115745 808070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :File: "delvs-master/samples/multiply.bf 1 2" not found < 1380115748 72513 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1380115751 551212 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115753 894685 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yhat doesn't seem much like brainfuck < 1380115764 848972 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./delvs delvs-master/samples/writetonull.bf < 1380115766 595931 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Segmentation fault < 1380115771 591057 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380115771 929530 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1380115786 707052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably a derivative, then. < 1380115808 771757 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D' < 1380115860 240495 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){ :|:& };: < 1380115864 610349 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Delvs < 1380115866 61683 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1380115866 579740 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380115866 725392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=delvs btw < 1380115874 62938 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I not check this first < 1380115957 522687 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar txf master.tar.gz | paste < 1380115963 169712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option \ Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. \ http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.13265 < 1380115973 92855 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar tzf master.tar.gz | paste < 1380115975 465834 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1380115978 981890 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.21268 < 1380115997 335952 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste delvs-master/main.c < 1380115999 310860 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/delvs-master/main.c < 1380116031 777862 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste delvs-master/delvs.h.c < 1380116034 1979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/delvs-master/delvs.h.c < 1380116042 83083 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste delvs-master/delvs.h < 1380116044 358001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/delvs-master/delvs.h < 1380116056 845103 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: ffs, use github < 1380116060 690146 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: :D < 1380116074 136978 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: https://github.com/L8D/delvs < 1380116106 161694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: you can also use the web interface at http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ directly. < 1380116146 397471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note how pasting a file just gives you the link to it there, and doesn't actually create a paste. < 1380116291 530543 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1380116294 903898 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380116305 994329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380116307 760623 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380116322 315131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv delvs-master share < 1380116326 141094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move `delvs-master' to `share/delvs-master': Directory not empty < 1380116334 154503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1380116342 736017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1380116344 531273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1380116362 543964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`diff delvs-master share/delvs-master < 1380116364 595356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :diff: missing operand after `delvs-master share/delvs-master' \ diff: Try `diff --help' for more information. < 1380116376 247230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run diff delvs-master share/delvs-master < 1380116377 941670 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only in delvs-master: bf.c \ Only in delvs-master: bf.h \ Only in delvs-master: delvs \ Only in delvs-master: delvs.h \ Only in delvs-master: delvs.rb \ Only in delvs-master: .gitignore \ Only in delvs-master: main.c \ Only in delvs-master: Makefile \ Only in delvs-master: README.md \ Common subdirectories: delvs-master/samples and share/delvs-mast < 1380116403 323346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -R share/delvs-master < 1380116404 658776 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1380116409 704358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -R share/delvs-master < 1380116411 324003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116417 226864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv delvs-master share < 1380116421 765492 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move `delvs-master' to `share/delvs-master': Directory not empty < 1380116426 184001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf! < 1380116436 859374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master < 1380116438 737513 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :samples < 1380116444 646583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116446 429765 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116454 244685 :jconn!~username@la-pinta.la.net.ua QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380116464 488772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116465 761855 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116471 275921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116472 839798 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access share/delvs-master/samples: No such file or directory < 1380116484 276466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rmdir share/delvs-master < 1380116485 765193 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116490 75803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv delvs-master share < 1380116494 203496 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move `delvs-master' to `share/delvs-master': Directory not empty < 1380116504 547014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE H* IS GOING ON < 1380116517 862455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master < 1380116520 185078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :samples < 1380116526 751532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116528 458111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116536 971089 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck arisdottle < 1380116537 264270 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1380116584 986953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116586 806591 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116596 732223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: what is an arisdottle? < 1380116607 159898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv share/delvs-master AAA < 1380116608 766697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116612 939869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1380116614 640517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1380116618 799104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1380116620 555367 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1380116627 763582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv delvs-master share < 1380116632 253911 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: cannot move `delvs-master' to `share/delvs-master': Directory not empty < 1380116633 576761 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it is perl for the :: operator. < 1380116650 68148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there's something ridiculous here. < 1380116662 108192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: like the infamous paamayim nekudotayim? < 1380116670 467416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master < 1380116672 265257 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :samples < 1380116675 762385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380116677 359373 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116706 303230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380116708 15987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAA \ bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380116715 463377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls AAA < 1380116717 69525 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :samples < 1380116742 544635 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is hebrew for we don't speak english motherfucker. < 1380116753 600161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -R AAA < 1380116755 173198 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1380116759 154228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -R AAA < 1380116760 836396 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116765 741334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380116767 631110 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380116768 912392 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380116785 940830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380116787 190462 :Koen_!~Koen@78.245.243.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380116787 780558 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ delvs-master \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380116800 612588 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never realised this was a Daft Punk song < 1380116809 534491 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though there is pretty much no-one else it could be < 1380116830 634172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -R share/delvs-master; mv delvs-master share < 1380116834 396852 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380116837 279945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whewe < 1380116892 365427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gregor PLZ FIX REMOVAL OF EMPTY DIRECTORIES IN HACKEGO THX < 1380116892 510850 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380117029 397099 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380117097 66910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380117099 34014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ delvs \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ master.tar.gz \ mind \ multiply.bf \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380117099 312352 :Koen_!~Koen@78.245.243.132 QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380117107 618387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm master.tar.gz < 1380117111 202332 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380117131 383063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/delvs-master/samples < 1380117133 389493 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi.bf \ hi-bool.bf \ multiply.bf \ readfile.bf \ writefile.bf \ writetonull.bf < 1380117134 743375 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380117139 430305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm multiply.bf < 1380117143 19821 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380117156 483069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mv delvs bin < 1380117157 975586 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv: missing destination file operand after `delvs bin' \ Try `mv --help' for more information. < 1380117164 578760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv delvs bin < 1380117168 384413 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380117194 503572 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: who manages the script that unhthifies you? < 1380117204 87652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: elliott made it. < 1380117205 956221 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380117243 286967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you add thx to the unørjanable three-letter-acronyms? < 1380117272 225239 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380117282 920399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use it _once_ and you want to remove it, sheesh < 1380117412 869379 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh... it only was for science. I'd have asked him to reput it back again afterwards... < 1380117464 290165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize i have to manually install it, right? < 1380117479 828718 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380117899 890988 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing the diagrams library on an RPi takes a while < 1380117980 121328 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought haskell didn't work on an rpi < 1380117985 429603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that just ghc < 1380118007 722209 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, template haskell doesn't, and GHCi doesn't < 1380118012 77699 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380118061 161473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, well one of those follows from the other < 1380118118 380994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, template haskell < 1380118119 311229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: happy hackage 2 day! < 1380118171 632445 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another note entirely, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is out in the US but not the UK :( < 1380118291 898750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you don't happen to have S.H.I.E.L.D. comics do you? i have a long-standing wikipedia correction that i cannot do because no one ever answered me about whether they _really_ misspelled Isaac Newton in the comics. < 1380118302 200765 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, don't worry, it'll be cancelled before it makes it here < 1380118329 805081 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, by 8PM Friday? < 1380118333 288010 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no I don't < 1380118337 811277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. < 1380118345 359232 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have precisely two Marvel comics < 1380118346 87696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, it is whedon after all < 1380118359 295104 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :8PM Friday!!! < 1380118383 740178 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, he brought a character back to life so maybe it will be uncancelled < 1380118421 127516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh wait someone has answered! < 1380118446 292569 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1380118450 79616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"New York Times' Brooks Barnes [...] added that "what goes over well at Comic-Con does not necessarily work in the real world,"" < 1380118463 176538 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, seems plausible < 1380118489 531826 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, next you'll tell me I can't turn up to lectures in my Wonder Woman cosplay < 1380118511 461989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, you'll be fine there < 1380118609 329583 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380118639 883595 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(are you doing maths or cs again, i forget) < 1380118650 403207 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(both) < 1380118683 589530 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so in a weird way you did not forget at all) < 1380119109 300486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not without uploading to youtube you can't! < 1380119143 420227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is that a double negative or not. maybe triple. < 1380119219 813913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quadruple negative: “not”, “without”, “youtube” and “can't”. < 1380119228 653269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1380119813 488917 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't never underestimate the negative absence of the negations that are not there. < 1380119861 397737 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380119923 197152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO KAY < 1380119992 772306 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :misunderestimate < 1380121008 189246 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :draumr < 1380121020 49556 :draumr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :draumr_ < 1380121211 722817 :draumr_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380121766 892457 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380121966 621748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FheeFullo. < 1380122095 848433 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380122103 737079 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily < 1380122181 291997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a stealth hello with my name? < 1380122253 735891 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily boily boily, boily boily. < 1380122529 346275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Heily borld!" is a typical first program in a programming language. < 1380122782 904240 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380122803 565593 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having trouble picking a CPU architecture (or simple programming language implemented as a CPU) for a Minecraft computing mod < 1380122852 261826 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie: z80? < 1380122862 122682 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've always been fond of the 6502 < 1380122867 410769 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it feels boring, stale and just wrong in many aspects < 1380122874 809597 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the z80 is better but i've never really got into the z80 < 1380122897 861800 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a first time to everything ☺ < 1380122903 746998 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in i tried it < 1380122908 6722 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't really like it < 1380122912 997313 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1380122914 550581 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering going custom but it's hard to make a fake CPU arch < 1380122943 445799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :motorola 68k? mips? some horrendous CISC architecture? < 1380122998 69748 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not x86. it doesn't even count as an architecture. more like a chaotic borg cube that happens to be cube shaped, but entirely by accident.) < 1380123005 856443 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is ugly < 1380123010 73513 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :80286. < 1380123055 510522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SuperH? < 1380123126 504297 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should work out the minecraft laws of physics and design an architecture around it. < 1380123136 435750 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the only rule is sand falls < 1380123152 33652 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far can you miniaturize it? Will tunneling become a barrier? < 1380123255 564969 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie, subleq < 1380123264 100981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing that: reduceron < 1380123266 275776 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it can't be too minimalist < 1380123273 388796 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it can't run too slow in practice < 1380123277 489352 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so subleq/BF-level stuff is out < 1380123285 714487 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge could be interesting < 1380123341 135138 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perhaps a minor iteration on ARMv2? < 1380123346 127502 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380123388 196592 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380123389 903860 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :redcode! < 1380123461 556583 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :redcode isn't a half-bad idea < 1380123487 754948 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything involving RAM is not going to work. < 1380123509 485388 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once tried making a TM in minecraft < 1380123520 9367 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It's amod < 1380123521 84779 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mod* < 1380123526 287405 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a build < 1380123535 103928 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mod, so I can implement anything I want < 1380123553 261423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and now i'm thinking how i might do so once more < 1380123586 432073 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380123596 269879 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: tons of pistons < 1380123612 102980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be possible to do it with only a few, actually < 1380123612 652403 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a few MC versions ago, some blocks send a redstone signal through and some don't < 1380123625 203346 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your tape < 1380123632 21102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what i was using < 1380123640 127618 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it in a magnetic way < 1380123641 571176 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a read/write head set up with dirt/glass < 1380123647 212347 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :always have both dirt and glass < 1380123651 222624 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just swap their order < 1380123652 337848 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380123660 71601 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is exactly what i had < 1380123686 838469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving the tape was the problem, but now i'm wondering if you could use back-to-back piston shuttles at each end < 1380123688 559068 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you mux signals on a redstone wire? < 1380123697 922754 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the max length is 16, i think < 1380123700 574535 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: with redlogic yes < 1380123713 542939 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so you can have a 63-length tape by making a 16x16 square < 1380123722 803381 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just pushing it through on all 4 corners every time < 1380123735 673005 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie, for the purposes of the exercise i'm assuming it's infinite < 1380123752 866562 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: an INFINITE piston tape, now... < 1380123784 175324 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: you could divide the tape into... 12-cell chunks, with pistons at each end < 1380123791 83532 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and move them through in turn < 1380123816 900136 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1380123908 337716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you know how if you have two sticky pistons with their faces pointed together they can be moved by extending them in turn < 1380124163 388984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the basic idea is to have 'carriages' of those, with wires at the side controlling their movement < 1380124189 739283 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380124198 758027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you line a bunch of them up to get past the 16-block limit on pistons < 1380124827 843530 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380125116 871700 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380125117 16761 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380125400 835990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380125455 384325 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380126557 758194 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380126597 254561 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380126994 348007 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380127026 775705 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380127634 733846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380127717 185085 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380127816 324249 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380127821 122033 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380127854 374343 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380128867 638686 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380129030 293949 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1380130220 363503 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380131161 76964 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380131166 311729 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380131208 655036 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380132475 765533 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380133183 730976 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380133277 714139 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380133367 315305 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380133842 711408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. I ordered a keyboard this morning. a few hours later, I get a reply from paypal and the site that my order's been cancelled and refunded. < 1380133858 697330 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, I managed to order an out of production, out of stock keyboard. < 1380133861 14746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sighs
< 1380134016 542754 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get a used keyboard of the same kind? < 1380134216 690344 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380134300 883444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: bah. I ordered the new generation, the one that the support guy positively asserted that is in stock and exists. < 1380135016 559630 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380135336 888741 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre NICK :nisstyre < 1380135744 919565 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380136887 718443 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1380137672 565392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1380137672 899015 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Prospering" to "Obstruction" < 1380137689 685609 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obstruction indeed. been struggling with database integrity errors the whole day. < 1380137839 890373 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380137856 217806 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380137954 854202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the whole point about a (relational) database is that you don't have to. :p < 1380138011 117704 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380138015 140352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/ < 1380138074 770543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«You're probably okay.» < 1380138101 971549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you aren't using MySQL then < 1380138124 688472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently my database is "Probably pretty fucked." < 1380138179 506864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the error messages. < 1380138198 221631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My irclog database is probably okay.) < 1380138351 408270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: OpenERP only runs on Postgres. which is a strangely sane choice, considering the rest of the framework can make you become schizophreniac. < 1380138365 315626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erp erp erp erp erp < 1380138366 990213 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe it bundles MySQL for the other database < 1380138431 583146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: afaik, you are right. < 1380138440 63143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shakes kmc
< 1380138466 151955 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://howfuckedismydistro.com/gentoo/ I um pffffff < 1380138485 885751 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see only darkness < 1380138492 832064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. oh my. < 1380138549 114008 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it... compiling the kernel on boot? < 1380138571 530628 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs -funroll-loops for speed < 1380138601 821404 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's. I... I can't describe that. there is green text impacting my optical nerves. I feeel uneasy. I give you a hamburger. < 1380138624 392767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I skipped to the end. :/ < 1380138626 552726 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: this is good < 1380138632 205413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: are you on gentoo? < 1380138636 631056 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at work, yeah ^^; < 1380138638 226598 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Okay, you're just fucked." < 1380138668 145343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :im too dumb to get the joke so far < 1380138795 290218 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i 'get' it in the sense that i see the joke too late to find it funny < 1380138846 121646 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what I'm supposed to make of this site. < 1380138849 532030 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be a joke of some kind. < 1380138854 410379 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternately, it might not. < 1380138869 783870 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 6h 6m 6s ago: PLZ FIX REMOVAL OF EMPTY DIRECTORIES IN HACKEGO THX // No. < 1380138885 906893 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this handy, compact guide, you’ll explore a ton of powerful Ubuntu Linux commands while you learn to use Ubuntu Linux as the experts do: from the command line. Try out more than 1,000 commands to find and get software, monitor system health and security, and access network resources. Then, apply the skills you learn from this book to use and administer desktops and servers running Ubuntu, Debian, and KNOPPIX or any other Linux distribution. < 1380138948 380236 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no arch page ;_; < 1380138953 342600 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor Slackware. < 1380138960 908526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, it benefits from seeing the rest of the site first < 1380138970 553537 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only ubuntu, debian, gentoo, and redhat, it seems < 1380138971 474388 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yeah, I poked around a bit. < 1380138973 542287 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I "get it" < 1380139140 823681 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380139153 866273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who else arches? < 1380139211 685830 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooobyd < 1380139258 888091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooobyd, the Evil Cousin with a Goatee of Nooodl? < 1380139351 215117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do because elliott bullied me < 1380139352 568722 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380139464 903434 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380139468 456615 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380139494 244011 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-179-203.as13285.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380139540 593366 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380139612 61078 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380139678 340487 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: stop bullying people, even if you are bringing them on the Bright Path of the Best Distro doing so. < 1380140353 309878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380140420 500248 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380140512 263241 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380140542 573399 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for completely unknown and mysterious reasons, wikipedians saw fit to put the pronounciation for the local variations on “that's greek to me” → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_to_me < 1380140702 576952 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is for me a Spanish village." — Czech < 1380140761 714632 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting use of "pronunciation" there boily < 1380140784 218640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's the normal one? < 1380140813 354562 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought they meant the different phrases < 1380140844 570626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/noun/nun/ < 1380140870 179895 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like fish-egg language < 1380140882 726637 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380140925 766648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did somebody put together the graph of the languages here < 1380140998 346863 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/myl/graph2.png ← someone did. < 1380141005 285244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1380141006 505775 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd feel bad about conflating "Chinese" and Mandarin, or "Greek" and- well, great. < 1380141007 609028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well. for the mainest languages) < 1380141008 398314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 languagelog forever < 1380141062 363952 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which graph is that graph? < 1380141082 437140 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph of languages using one another as idiomatically incomprehensible < 1380141098 180849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1380141100 822342 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wondering about aramaic, i didn't know it was common enough for people to think about < 1380141110 350946 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, within the last two thousand years, i mean < 1380141115 831618 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there doesn't seem to be much progress lately on xkcd's beanish :( < 1380141126 251638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the bible < 1380141128 715235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for aramaic I mean < 1380141133 16595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also also: non-planar representations of planar graphs are nasty. < 1380141133 288002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: everybody speaks aramaic. fsvo speaks. < 1380141137 788328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what xkcd whatever is and I'm not sure if I can blame the bible or not < 1380141140 603267 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some, non-speaks value of speaks < 1380141165 369643 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :romanian -> turkish -> french -> hebrew -> chinese -> heavenly script < 1380141185 515273 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was... idk, some kind of language fascist thing < 1380141192 462610 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a chinese novel that has some heavenly script in it. unfortunately the novel is too hard for me to read < 1380141195 459045 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought what was? < 1380141201 40782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the graph < 1380141213 212482 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Hindi is missing a link... is it Chinese? is it Heavenly script? is it Greek? < 1380141224 942200 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe sanskrit? < 1380141241 73955 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be reasonably closely analogous to greek, at least < 1380141242 559338 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :also somewhat disappointed about the lack of loops < 1380141281 910697 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :india has like a billion languages and all though, maybe they ust pick the language of a random province < 1380141289 689274 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all kannada to me < 1380141300 726948 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am at kannada. < 1380141307 383303 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all sindhalese to me < 1380141437 850528 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's spoken in karnataka. having the languages and provinces have the same names or even geographical areas would be way too simple. < 1380141453 211884 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's where mysore was, neat < 1380141478 449494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could just use "indian" as the gibberish language < 1380141489 292868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be at least slightly fewer than a billion indian languages anyone doesn't speak < 1380141490 107187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses 'english' do they :/ < 1380141524 235309 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno olsner, where i live analogous terms like "American" "Mexican" or "Canadian" are only used to imply that you're an idiot < 1380141600 355189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody uses Finnish either, even though (for some strange reason) it's often used as a prototypical hard-to-learn language. < 1380141615 975208 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my imaginary world it's because people notice it's not IE. < 1380141686 162689 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably because Hungarian holds the spotlight when people think about difficult to learn finno-ugric languages. < 1380141705 151626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380141745 90127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me I still have to learn Estonian. < 1380141753 321250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380141756 817317 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ mind \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380141760 558669 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe one of the words for gibberish in swedish is cognate with 'welsh' < 1380141769 326391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But nobody's using Hungarian either. < 1380141804 228053 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDEI06J00nk hth. < 1380141814 558490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you _see_ the mess i had earlier today trying to move a directory from top level to share/ ? < 1380141824 737393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`canary < 1380141826 274406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: canary: not found < 1380141846 776858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin` < 1380141848 200316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin`: POSIX shell script text executable < 1380141856 283131 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bin` < 1380141857 938556 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bin`: not found < 1380141859 552846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin` < 1380141861 38261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh < 1380141865 982548 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly < 1380141871 734674 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: DON'T CARE < 1380141896 828324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: but WHY (is it happening in the first place :( ) < 1380141946 344567 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Mercurial doesn't support adding empty directories to the repository. < 1380141954 224787 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is that mysteriõus thing... < 1380141970 976376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm not talking about adding them, but removing. < 1380141997 225249 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All of the transactional file behavior is based on hg changes. < 1380142007 320642 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it doesn't recognize the removal of a directory as a change, it doesn't know that anything has been done. < 1380142061 775720 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: his eyes. they disturb me. < 1380142110 617453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: when HackEgo runs a command, does it get an entirely new copy of the file structure to run in? < 1380142122 93761 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monoid < 1380142124 176059 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Monoids are just categories with a single object. < 1380142144 114772 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No. < 1380142153 471053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380142154 801453 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380142216 38480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it was completely ridiculous btw, i removed the directory and ls in a later command shows it as not being there; but when i try to move the new version into there it breaks down claiming the spot's already occupied. < 1380142235 709216 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380142259 28732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the only thing that worked was removing the old directory and moving to it in the same command. < 1380142285 232174 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup. < 1380142312 978391 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's confusing, but it's not easy to fix and not a common enough problem for me to care. < 1380142522 518858 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh my back starts acting up as soon as i sit down with the laptop :( < 1380142556 383703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :been that way since monday morning or so. < 1380142582 687708 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380142588 859331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much any way of sitting with a laptop is bad for the back < 1380142620 225704 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: are codu pretty logs still broked? < 1380142639 796232 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's an estonian cartoon, obviously. one i like. < 1380142640 590150 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup >_> <_< < 1380142651 292223 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently this aired on tv for children to watch at least once! < 1380142688 650123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent it to a coworker. he likes it. < 1380142696 488267 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn straight he does. < 1380142740 627580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it as good as worker and parasite < 1380142756 522193 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(real) soviet cartoons are way better than worker and parasite. < 1380142767 170725 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do look about as freaky at times, tho. < 1380142930 472427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I prefer cow orkers, but only in fiction. < 1380143109 693546 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cow orker is one of my favorite puns < 1380143233 772913 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh that was strange, doing ls on the NFS mount was out of sync compared to doing ls on the ssh session. This lasted for about half a minute until the NFS mount caught up as it were. < 1380143249 950476 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know NFS could return a stale state, I thought it would block < 1380143271 142309 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :NFS can do *anything* < 1380143287 838347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NFS ate my balls < 1380143296 135633 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, fair enough < 1380143340 533767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? things NFS can do < 1380143342 358877 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :things NFS can do? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380143413 556245 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: ? < 1380143438 754609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1380143443 239347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Phantom_Hoover got myndzi to ignore HackEgo. < 1380143459 196231 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did i < 1380143461 514644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he got fed up with precisely that figure. < 1380143508 3075 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 'night! < 1380143512 704798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well i recall _someone_ did, and you're the kind of person who might. < 1380143652 551089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo \o/ < 1380143652 889328 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       | < 1380143653 88958 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       |\ < 1380143653 896850 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\o/ < 1380143661 63817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Foo is a struct do you think one should be able to assign to fields of Foo through pattern matching,. i.e. (foo.x, foo.y) = f(); < 1380143714 147150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KdCj <- NFS can. < 1380143736 173121 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380143740 225252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Foo <$> f, but I have this feeling you're talking about Rust. < 1380143772 448693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“nfs can do virtually everything. but it isn't specified” < 1380143778 796593 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really assignment... < 1380143803 569231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't think Foo <$> f works if f returns a pair. < 1380143819 242508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canon - you can. < 1380143832 699864 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has been an adbot this entire time < 1380143833 791894 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there are some fuzzy-tuple-y details that my tired brain can't figure out at the moment. < 1380143848 956841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try eating some curry < 1380143857 510915 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nfs can do virtually everything. but it isn't specified" this is good. < 1380143861 105762 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: only on Tuesday nights, after the movies. < 1380143871 104269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: other people talk about salmiakki? < 1380143886 208457 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there an argument against doing it? < 1380143899 885414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about Rust and other related languages < 1380143915 466749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything with structures with named fields, assignment, and destructuring / pattern-matching < 1380143925 774020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean Python allows this, but it doesn't really have a distinction between assignment and declaration < 1380143997 96477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone happen to know offhand if the following is possible on Windows: create a DLL that has undefined symbols that are linked in from the process that includes it? < 1380143998 324740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: <[REDACTED Finnish person on a different channel]> btw, i can bring you mämmi and salmiakki from finland. < 1380144020 749720 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, mämmi, we get that in shops here sometimes... what the heck is it? < 1380144022 164910 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this works just fine on Linux < 1380144029 182385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck mämmi < 1380144029 552172 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1380144031 331674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure how to do it on Windows, or even if it's possible < 1380144042 390893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(context: porting a program which does this from Linux to Windows) < 1380144044 110191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAURGH! for the one legitimate use of ~duck, I get no infos. < 1380144068 459678 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the dll uses the symbols, which are resolved at link time by the program...? < 1380144081 170918 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!fromto fi en mämmi < 1380144091 878058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, basically program X includes DLL Y; X has a global variable, Y can read from and write to that variable < 1380144109 44138 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if the linker can do it automatically, but I'm pretty sure a DLL can get the handle of the process that linked it and resolve symbols manually that way < 1380144130 953786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well on Linux it just works, even without attributes or special compiler options < 1380144149 993611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on mingw it doesn't, the linker complains about unresolved symbols when building the DLL < 1380144152 157470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck memma < 1380144152 625280 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :M�mmi is a traditional Finnish Easter dessert. < 1380144157 548769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oi mämmi, Suomi, synnyinmaa < 1380144159 213455 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION headdesks.
< 1380144176 725145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You made a laugh appear. < 1380144189 629468 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and none of the options that should tell it to just go with it seem to have any effect < 1380144219 403605 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anyone who has watched cuttlefish will know that if there was ever an animal that wears its heart on its sleeve, it is Sepia." :3 < 1380144311 22427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, aimake currently crashes mingw ld < 1380144319 113845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nonetheless works < 1380144321 101880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1380144326 262990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just get the dialog box popping up telling you that ld crashed < 1380144342 121936 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: <3 < 1380144343 592706 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashes after finishing the output file? < 1380144354 475099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well I'm running under -t to try to locate the system libraries < 1380144378 743856 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the system libraries are static libraries, thus they won't normally be mentioned unless at least one symbol in them is referenced < 1380144389 410339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my solution was to use --whole-archive to tell it to just link the whole thing < 1380144392 747731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, kmc: I'm watching you. any attempt at eating my bot will result to your extradition to Canada. in winter. < 1380144438 148639 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does metasepia even have a shirt < 1380144455 242608 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a shirt? < 1380144466 699019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/in/ < 1380144473 914363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/in/with/ < 1380144487 958488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, my DLL reverse export problem has quite a lot of freedom < 1380144497 826495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Great Preposition Shift < 1380144517 622459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm allowed (allowing myself) to assume mingw gcc, mingw ld, and can put arbitrary attributes on the variables in question, at both the importing and exporting sites < 1380144552 386751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the variable dllimport:ed when building Y? < 1380144564 702573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I can choose < 1380144568 923524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm I'm putting a dllimport on it < 1380144577 147198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems unlikely to work if I don't < 1380144579 626411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it doesn't work anyway < 1380144591 129776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it just changes whether the linker contains about a missing "variable" or "__imp_variable") < 1380144612 442385 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, yes, that would need to work for it to work with that alone < 1380144613 71948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so is this also a step to making nethack4 work on windows < 1380144618 750212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, how did you guess? < 1380144635 616178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Have you tried making a "fake" DLL that defines all those symbols, then an import library for that, and then use that when linking the DLL? (Disclaimer: probably won't work.) < 1380144639 865724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I could just statically link everything, but I'm trying to keep the nitrohack code as originally intended < 1380144650 610158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've been stalking you on reddit. < 1380144659 831132 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you're going to that much effort you could just put the variable in a DLL of its own, and import it in both places < 1380144678 859159 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wondered what the import libraries are for on windows, maybe you need one of those for the executable's exports and link it into the dll < 1380144680 105057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aka "friending") < 1380144682 356334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is something I'm considering for if it's impossible to do it the intended ways < 1380144701 94403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I sort of assumed you can't change the program. < 1380144706 624853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: that would require each of the executable and DLL to be built before the other < 1380144713 216058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well I'm trying to get aimake to do this automatically < 1380144720 942652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't change the program in anything other than very simple, mechanical ways < 1380144760 247928 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1380144766 129587 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380144770 443560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, nothing requiring strong AI, please < 1380144775 60626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Snowflake was bad enough ;) < 1380144778 823451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ;-) < 1380144810 971381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the problem is that --no-undefined is default on windows and you need to disable it < 1380144838 423329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I was wondering about that < 1380144848 227473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that it doesn't seem to have an opposite < 1380144850 248488 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.191-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380144854 328036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried --no-no-undefined yet, I guess < 1380144860 16820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(--undefined means something entirely different) < 1380144871 419861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how logical. < 1380145192 997276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sourceware.org/autobook/autobook/autobook_88.html "Unfortunately, there are some architectures (notably AIX and Windows) which require that all symbols are resolved when the library is linked." < 1380145230 414547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1380145234 657538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: MSVC has a "delayed loading" feature which essentially makes the linker include LoadLibrary/GetProcAddress code to do the linking at first call/use. Something along those lines might work, but I don't think MinGW includes a similar feature. < 1380145235 999665 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My plan to run diagrams on an RPi has hit a flaw < 1380145253 468573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, I guess my big moral question is, should I remove the (already-working) reverse import feature on Linux, on the basis that it makes programs less portable? < 1380145323 850000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is it TH? < 1380145334 728774 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, I got past that < 1380145342 630698 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gtk taking aaaages to compile < 1380145354 503291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380145398 353772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what actually is diagrams < 1380145410 106835 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Haskell library for drawing pretty pictures < 1380145431 19897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty great < 1380145432 819462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, mingw-w64 in fact does support delay-loaded libs. But it does not seem immediately useful for your use case, it's just a dlltool option that can make an import library that does the delay-loading. < 1380145506 920581 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you can make diagrams in haskell? < 1380145517 536993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"-add-indirect: Specifies that when dlltool is creating the exports file it should add a section which allows the exported functions to be referenced without using the import library. Whatever the hell that means!" (dlltool manual) < 1380145523 429439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://projects.haskell.org/diagrams/gallery.html < 1380145591 42531 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll just leave it running overnight < 1380145633 391748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mingw can link to DLLs directly without going through the import library < 1380145638 116706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: You could cross-compile your things on a Real Computer. (And AIUI you can get a Real Computer with a nickel.) < 1380145657 379731 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, but that takes eeeeffooort < 1380145660 148401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably, on the basis that it's possible to mechanically create an import library from a DLL, so the linker may as well do that itself < 1380145761 168177 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380145829 675431 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380145847 981617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, why don't domain names tab-complete < 1380145865 555233 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyhow, you can (at least in theory) make an import library for the executable before linking it, by constructing a .def file containing the exported symbols and then processing that with dlltool. Then you might attempt to link the DLL against that, and the executable against the DLL. < 1380145888 430487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it would work due to loading order < 1380145890 60227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't rank the chances of that working terribly high, but you never know. < 1380145955 388436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, someone's been trying to access pages like /admin.php on my server < 1380145958 629961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even have PHP installed! < 1380145976 328145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is what drive-by attacks against webservers look like < 1380145983 249130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- "beanish" is what xkcd forumers call the invented language in xkcd's "time" story. < 1380145986 328125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380145990 646218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mischan? < 1380145992 629082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ^ < 1380146004 415657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, just forgot to include kmc's quote :P < 1380146038 149460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah if you run a webserver on a public IP you will get loads of that kind of thing < 1380146041 138744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every day < 1380146049 268991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you run a SSH server on a public IP you will get a lot of password guessing attempts < 1380146058 964708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo don't put a SSH server on the public internet if it accepts passowrds at all < 1380146118 855641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I have fail2ban installed < 1380146133 245142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a username that's unlikely to be guessed without human interaction, and a non-dictionary password < 1380146155 749699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those drive-by ssh attacks don't catch anyone even slightly competent, they just spam the logs < 1380146171 305419 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380146306 317031 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380146362 64395 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Heh. The procedure I described is able to generate an executable. Sadly, I don't have a Wine installation or a Windows VM or a running Windows box handy at the moment, so I don't know what it'd say when trying to run that file. < 1380146428 570233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is segfault < 1380146436 932077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll try it some time just to see what happens < 1380146440 802478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming I even have dlltool installed < 1380146444 778385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I am at kannada. <-- ಠ_ಠ < 1380146444 923604 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380146445 76473 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                         ¯|¯⌠ < 1380146445 287508 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                                         /< | < 1380146465 869927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://sprunge.us/JNPg is what I did, for the record. < 1380146527 61565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not surprised it links; I'd think it has a very high chance of linking < 1380146535 594196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you told the DLL that it'd be getting the variable from another DLL, so it linked < 1380146539 550312 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. " : No such file or directory", is what Wine at work says. < 1380146545 412450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you told the executable that it'd be linking to the DLL, so it's fine too < 1380146613 343595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it seems to say that for everything, perhaps a non-worky Wine install. < 1380146646 79791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, an old broken ~/.wine symlink. < 1380146648 227288 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380146687 235281 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1380146691 853800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'KANNADA LETTER TTHA'; unicode 'LOW LINE'; unicode 'KANNADA LETTER TTHA' < 1380146694 968192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ಠ \ _ \ ಠ < 1380146708 702983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1380146711 468807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@pc112 ~/tmp/ww]$ wine ./app.exe < 1380146711 612617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[htkallas@pc112 ~/tmp/ww]$ echo $? < 1380146711 612808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1380146715 146219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What say you to that? < 1380146728 351437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote pressure < 1380146730 141261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :603) Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by? \ 7 < 1380146733 690987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380146738 919485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: not tested on an actual Windows system.) < 1380146739 861845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote apply pressure < 1380146741 81128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was a spambot < 1380146741 437789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1018) ◊_______________________◊ help. jesus christ elliott apply pressure evenly when jamming eyes open < 1380146745 476665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that apps in Wine can make native Linux syscalls too < 1380146750 1380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I quoted in-channel < 1380146752 652226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what? < 1380146756 561431 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even understand why i said that < 1380146769 656542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought it was particularly amusing spam < 1380146771 278589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me want to write Linux malware that masquerades as a Windows game < 1380146772 330803 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, isn't that inevitable? < 1380146773 916091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I pasted it in the channel < 1380146777 682793 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it got quoted < 1380146787 985816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why shouldn't I love inevitable things < 1380146790 883301 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: neat, you could make it Windows malware too < 1380146808 739641 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's not what you'd expect if you (wrongly) believed wine is a full "emulator" < 1380146829 142937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Hourglass has similar issues, of spilling out to the surrounding system < 1380146840 924924 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Web of Lies attempts to deal with the issue via sandboxing as well as syscall translation < 1380146843 208271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hourglass? < 1380146848 648765 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if JITs in any actual emulators have vulnerabilities/code execution issues < 1380146848 969464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admittedly only 'got' it when hanging around with microcosm < 1380146861 910762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :think web of lies but for Windows, even less reliable, but less insane < 1380146867 528843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not mine, nitsuja wrote it < 1380146883 913273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I doubt it's impossible < 1380146888 308021 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that';s the thing used in the windows game TASes right < 1380146898 8642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spent some time looking for bugs in dosbox < 1380146899 440402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it's probably happened somewhere < 1380146901 770771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: yes < 1380146904 85076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to make it deref a null pointer and crash < 1380146906 932099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url bin/unicode < 1380146908 434731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Incidentally, the concept of using a .DEF file to handle circular dependencies within DLLs is documented in MSDN: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/kkt2hd12%28v=VS.90%29.aspx < 1380146908 759675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like you can change the syscalls in the kernel, right? < 1380146909 297431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/unicode < 1380146915 542594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui that's what hackego does < 1380146927 339360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I suppose the case of the program and DLL is not very far from two DLLs depending on each other, really. < 1380146935 864218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(So maybe it'd work outside Wine too.) < 1380146943 300470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380146958 411744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'KANNADA LETTER TTHA' 'LOW LINE' 'KANNADA LETTER TTHA' < 1380146960 276724 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ಠ_ಠ < 1380146970 306948 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it even mentions it works for an executable an library that depend on each other < 1380146975 906153 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess this is what I will have to make aimake do < 1380146983 544250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh, I didn't read it all that closely. < 1380147002 611084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i should have @told boily that instead. < 1380147011 338507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :missed opportunity. < 1380147013 116080 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW' < 1380147015 73236 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1380147046 845208 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible < 1380147099 706217 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380147103 905081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kannada oh kannada i never was your son < 1380147142 429427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode < 1380147144 458263 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380147209 263711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN SMALL LETTER F' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER U' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER N' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER G' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER U' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER T' < 1380147211 183534 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungut < 1380147215 86251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close < 1380147218 984427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'LATIN SMALL LETTER F' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER U' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER N' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER G' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER O' 'LATIN SMALL LETTER T' < 1380147220 791813 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1380147227 229790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot ignores HackEgo doesn't it... < 1380147227 944836 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: pro. but loue first learned in a ladies lappe, and decke the temples of mars, whose spirit in you fnord the bringer out of the bloody fingers of thy foes. < 1380147228 341113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sad < 1380147236 168388 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode rm -rf / < 1380147238 127937 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unicode", line 5, in \ print u"".join(map(unicodedata.lookup, sys.argv[1:])).encode("utf-8") \ KeyError: "undefined character name 'rm'" < 1380147244 161949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: nice 1 < 1380147265 116735 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET' < 1380147267 160741 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​︘ < 1380147280 378010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: more importantly, HackEgo adds the initial zero-width space. < 1380147291 298075 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what < 1380147297 206726 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unicode 'PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT WHITE LENTICULAR BRACKET' < 1380147299 328533 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​︗ < 1380147303 772856 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are backwards :/ < 1380147308 808140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i guess that wouldn't affect babbling. < 1380147377 586025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i dunno they look identical to me < 1380147515 661956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, these brackets seem to make irssi glitch < 1380147603 868254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't notice any glitch. although sometimes i see fanciful unicode take a while to appear, but i guess that's on the font lookup end of putty? < 1380147637 974741 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:164:50 and < with naming the cells? < 1380149038 453638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no me too, because i like to be able to see if there's irc activity behind it < 1380149055 738267 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so basically, forbid unmatched > and < in the brainfuck program) < 1380149080 796857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: yes, the collatz function reduction doesn't use unmatched <>s < 1380149086 258752 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1380149130 786706 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even have windows that aren't full screen `-` < 1380149166 562986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I tend to be quite consistent about which windows I fullscreen, and which I leave floating < 1380149189 396210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally floating windows are things I use to amuse myself during long compiles, or else are always-on-topped things I want to keep an eye on < 1380149193 645644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: i tried for quite a while to see if there was any way to _use_ unmatched >< to get around my problems before finding the collatz functions, but i couldn't think of anything it helped with when you just have 3 cells. < 1380149195 13832 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380149201 45395 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I need to keep an eye on two things that fill the screen, I just alpha-blend them < 1380149207 346322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's confusing but not impossible to read < 1380149226 945835 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps with making algorithms harder to predict :-) < 1380149227 958041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to have docs and code side by side < 1380149248 388054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: also i still haven't found a way to split up the final integer produced for printing. :( < 1380149262 484582 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :split up? < 1380149289 331805 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not really sure I know how to look at the collatz sequences to consider them a programming language < 1380149290 832036 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mzeo/xslt-brainfuck because fuck you :D < 1380149297 396744 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it < 1380149334 536207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: as in, i haven't found a way to compute arbitrary output with just 3 cells. < 1380149344 584847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a function of input.) < 1380149353 136670 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1380149504 527730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: you just program in fractran and convert that to a collatz function. < 1380149522 768802 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1380149638 589163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that again is essentially programming a minsky machine, except the registers are prime exponents and you need some flag bits or similar to control flow. < 1380149692 444111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the flag bits are also prime exponents) < 1380149754 61837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and any non-IO using bf program without unmatched <> can be mechanically converted to a minsky machine. < 1380149816 953015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without unmatched <>, as you noted, you essentially have named cells, which is the same as minsky machine registers.) < 1380149852 344659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm i guess you want the bf program not to use negative numbers :) < 1380149870 801486 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about negative numbers, I think < 1380149872 55140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or wrapping, naturally) < 1380149873 33775 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not sure < 1380149885 765053 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well wrapping in 3-cell brainfuck would mean the cells are bounded < 1380149890 667544 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be quite inconvenient < 1380149940 167766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it only wraps in one direction < 1380149942 901172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. btw i'm not saying you use 3-cell brainfuck to _start_ with, you can use an arbitrary bounded number of cells to reduce through the path of languages. < 1380149963 344937 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then that would make it irreversible! < 1380149986 892308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf isn't reversible. < 1380149998 494669 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then that would make it even less so < 1380150000 726496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you mean, impossible to undo in any way < 1380150013 258703 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I know [-] is hard to undo < 1380150033 675336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :any way all bf mentions in the above are intended to have unbounded cells. < 1380150075 278606 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf implementation where incrementing a cell at its max value makes the increment spill into a random nearby cell < 1380150079 566914 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what you meant with "btw i'm not saying you use 3-cell brainfuck to _start_ with, you can use an arbitrary bounded number of cells to reduce through the path of languages." < 1380150082 185224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what about we make it wrap from -1 to 0, 256 to 0, and include a "square" instruction < 1380150088 646647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but as usual, two unbounded registers is enough to simulate a tape of bounded ones. < 1380150106 142842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can get vaues above 256 < 1380150115 777849 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's from -1 to 255? < 1380150148 60854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: i mean what i've described can be used as unbounded n-cell bf -> n-register minsky machine -> fractran -> collatz function -> unbounded 3-cell bf < 1380150153 477806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: sure? I'm not < 1380150211 267381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :D < 1380150303 961791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: psst he's slyly referring to another language with a fishy smell < 1380150331 771231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we need a new featured language, really < 1380150340 780984 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: neither am I < 1380150353 236842 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmmmmm is that the new fisherman language? < 1380150358 366575 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380150367 459401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: are you being dense tcnh < 1380150370 726966 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why do I have two _ in my name < 1380150383 323019 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only had one this morning < 1380150389 409895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't mean to misspell the acronyum but when i did i'll take advantage of it) < 1380150424 310946 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380150430 296686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: because you pinged out at some point? < 1380150444 511454 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID I < 1380150465 370003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possibly. < 1380150471 612943 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would ping back in but I'm quite lazy < 1380151108 782433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380151442 508315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, the fucking bbc still won't air parks and rec season 3 < 1380151457 438844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1380151476 805377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a free trial EC2 VM in the US and proxy Hulu through it < 1380151482 325726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know, bittorrent < 1380151492 809614 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1380151524 606779 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i can still torrent in this year's flat... < 1380151747 747374 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move to sweden < 1380151773 51179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will shove your elbows down your fucking gullet < 1380151815 439391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :channeling malcolm tucker are we < 1380151835 632763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of many BBC shows on Hulu :3 < 1380151927 272656 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking americans < 1380151931 25911 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking capitalism < 1380151957 685665 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380152046 640201 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't wait for the tories to get around to gutting them < 1380152057 630465 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380152073 794034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380152091 295983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :privatize the BBC and then buy it back later at a massive loss, just like the railroads < 1380152107 668743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I don't know if the govt took a loss on rail infrastructure or not < 1380152120 331376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but iirc they had to take over a lot of it because the trains kept crashing < 1380152143 367690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I actually did some work experience with Network Rail < 1380152162 965981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort-of partly public, partly private, as far as I can tell < 1380152179 965346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if bbc scotland would split off if scotland became independent < 1380152195 994336 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't it be sbc < 1380152209 67946 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would be if it was split off < 1380152257 118649 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380152280 659688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well Scotland is still part of Britain, officially < 1380152285 79138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the name's still accurate < 1380152289 840050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a little weird < 1380152309 700698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like calling the BBC the "European Broadcasting Company Britain" < 1380152315 136344 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if scotland became independent" < 1380152321 745951 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would also be inaccurate < 1380152353 72226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that it implies that "EBC Britain" is part of or at least subordinate to the EBC < 1380152396 549163 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how we're assuming 'britain' is a well-defined entity here, too < 1380152545 251581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like britain't < 1380153151 717986 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380153424 507684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Provisional BBC, Real BBC < 1380153455 476068 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuity bbc < 1380153569 116416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well the island is well-defined < 1380153577 891166 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that, there's not that much in the way of precise definitions < 1380153598 212169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the archipelago is also well-defined, even if there's a ridiculously long ongoing edit war on Wikipedia over what to call it < 1380153662 637937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... else do they want to call it < 1380153730 904627 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"manx isle and environs" < 1380153795 696036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "British and Irish Isles" seems to be a common choice < 1380153801 8152 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also < 1380153814 487464 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'isle' and 'island' bear like no etymological relation < 1380153893 193552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hazards a guess that The Question is "What is The Question?"
< 1380154087 164961 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question is "what is your mass and approximate coördinates" < 1380154137 449855 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380154251 116593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1380154257 388424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380154298 37780 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1380154914 127693 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380155617 665169 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380155838 835826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380155845 165720 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :new < 1380155852 544260 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good word < 1380155856 236243 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should use it < 1380155858 19062 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380155861 894127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a certain novelty to it < 1380155862 37794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesot < 1380155874 140875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1380155878 89588 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :naautore obeyogan mal jan sun lec mnesay fluvato impil nrneff stach cati bronster hnsta hairfy discherbra reat heaphtali moth mina < 1380155880 425909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: don't you mean yesod < 1380155885 725810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380155894 307932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this... meant to be english < 1380155902 411709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :obeyogan is what the people in turkey do when they support the government < 1380156018 537856 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380156103 476339 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bronster (n): Any person who has ever used a portmanteau of "bro" and another word to greet or introduce a friend. < 1380156371 623066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds si'nster < 1380156608 230965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist sb&hj 44 < 1380156609 963845 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist sb&hj 44: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380156611 579702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :45 < 1380157425 831883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen on proggit http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1n260u/brainfuck_in_xslt_because_no_reason/ < 1380157548 29407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, man, this is shit < 1380157554 443114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean not all that shit < 1380157560 683270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean mediocre < 1380157709 515865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://quomodocumque.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/sorry-i-already-submitted-to-the-journal-of-surjections/ rad < 1380158354 298490 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380158451 654821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hey, you got linked from http://chneukirchen.org/trivium/. < 1380158706 248670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices http://calvinanddune.tumblr.com/ on that page
< 1380159258 258574 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380160407 205803 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380160408 486122 :augur!~augur@pool-71-191-254-169.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380162235 109770 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380162421 702093 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380162705 411773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kozmo.com/ I almost think this is satire < 1380163031 106596 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380164724 817178 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380166244 830450 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yay me. < 1380166938 477142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1380166944 349344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which link? < 1380167312 95245 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380167327 844822 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1380167330 239547 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokoko < 1380167342 870781 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pol. < 1380167352 847238 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude sup < 1380167379 580943 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Phantom_Hoover said 19d 5h 44m 47s ago: say okokoko a bit in #esoteric so we can `addquote it" haha < 1380168341 783639 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Agora still exist? < 1380168348 792469 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there was a dictatorship scam recently < 1380168355 492337 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the dictator's a fool < 1380169433 119490 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380169745 124716 :jiji!~jojo@client003.c028426.customers.cinergycom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380169867 500488 :jiji!~jojo@client003.c028426.customers.cinergycom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380171695 721040 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380171803 767061 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380171993 103014 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380171998 247460 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380174076 850040 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380174832 767885 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175250 323205 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175287 992866 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DID I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO WATCH THE FINALE OF FREE! BEFORE BREAKFAST < 1380175336 399936 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1380175369 586859 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an anime about water, my response was appropriate < 1380175449 112761 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380175476 244503 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is water pooling on my face < 1380176520 940278 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380176914 753492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380177112 3370 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380177590 660643 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380177966 704490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FuNeSoMo" is such a silly project name. < 1380177985 515206 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less silly than PubSubHubbub < 1380177989 73821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's short for "Future Networks, Society and Modeling". < 1380179283 220396 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380180020 835560 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380181557 650727 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380181776 586579 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380183212 549895 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380184960 46440 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.114 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380185159 904622 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380186555 771293 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380186745 686725 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380187610 581093 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380189059 44613 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380193078 477799 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha! < 1380193080 615087 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahahaha! < 1380193088 647993 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just got rust-mode working on emacs! < 1380193127 787070 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very funny indeed < 1380193706 885763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was that an amused laugh or an evil madman laugh? < 1380193873 518968 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaning towards the latter, fizzie < 1380194157 79581 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 921 < 1380194161 295960 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 921: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1380194754 897499 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1380194764 191420 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-63-149.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380194764 336753 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195050 709960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195094 343869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380195117 722683 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195201 720971 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380195607 939098 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380195993 589129 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196011 527097 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380196031 321799 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196294 579706 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380196294 768905 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380197407 676763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380197582 29665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I understood your reference to curry about 4 hours later after you said it. < 1380197582 214084 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380197699 654881 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote curry < 1380197701 995669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380197706 228202 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote curry < 1380197706 373602 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: "Haskell is great, because Curry-Howard! Proving things in the type system. We can prove that, uh, Ints exist, unless they're ⊥." < 1380197993 170070 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.technologyreview.com/view/519581/how-google-converted-language-translation-into-a-problem-of-vector-space-mathematics/ < 1380198067 174398 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan re your previous @message: ☺ < 1380198067 319518 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380199061 96120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199150 494413 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, that is an interesting article < 1380199513 966990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't < 1380199519 298968 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's profoundly boring < 1380199582 341287 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is boring < 1380199606 51670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're boring < 1380199637 672075 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, vector spaces < 1380199646 747517 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how hard it was for me not to tell YOU you were boring? :( < 1380199690 318029 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199861 675499 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom-Hoover < 1380199877 259896 :Phantom-Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1380199890 83436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 QUIT :Changing host < 1380199890 270306 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-8005505 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199894 341303 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-8005505 QUIT :Changing host < 1380199894 486463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199898 132273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199957 894808 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380199964 763502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380199973 641354 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: vector spaces... the final translation frontier... < 1380199978 294427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380199978 439686 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 39m 56s ago: I understood your reference to curry about 4 hours later after you said it. < 1380199978 439863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 31m 51s ago: re your previous @message: ☺ < 1380199996 10283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: JUST AS PLANNED < 1380200006 334914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1380200011 668514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1380200222 536431 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380200251 418906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo Everybody seems to have been convinced that Fool's scam didn't work (ais523 made a massively reasoned judgement). Agora is in a bit of a lull, though, with all important Officers resigned. < 1380200251 564320 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380200492 484815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380200590 268644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "FuNeSoMo" is such a silly project name. <-- it doesn't even seem to mean anything interesting in japanese. ("Also ship its" ?) < 1380200674 846147 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also ship its OTP < 1380200755 686824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably someone somewhere making a business of shipping one time pads. < 1380201072 351418 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think Taneb was trope overdosing. < 1380201100 859905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lampshades Taneb
< 1380201108 349080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but i've forgot what OTP is. < 1380201142 341099 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380201151 818903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google provided the one true meaning, though. < 1380201271 764746 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380201342 134470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you were better off not knowing! < 1380201373 183170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably, now i'm on tvtropes after all. < 1380201455 725367 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380201619 863401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how many open tabs? < 1380201645 381147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had 3 tvtropes tabs but now i'm down to one. < 1380201795 844847 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380202033 818329 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :now? < 1380202232 219176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm two. < 1380202256 966279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of them is the same, though.) < 1380202426 428504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference between a duck? < 1380202451 73925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can neither bike < 1380202460 34270 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not allowed to say duck boily < 1380202483 808511 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUCKAY. < 1380202497 155205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait sorry, that's an elephant, not a duck. < 1380202643 741322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately, half the time I tell this joke people miss the parody and ask "The difference between a duck and WHAT?" Whenever that happens I cry inside for humanity." < 1380202732 721860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how old do you speak french? < 1380202851 516920 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380202863 47182 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1380202885 891222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1380202888 501506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1380202909 603095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're getting so efficient. < 1380202930 796490 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :j < 1380202934 450205 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmmeme < 1380203049 238316 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no are you spanish < 1380203145 688198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois looks like venezuela. < 1380203161 2722 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjjjjaj < 1380203647 766190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: about... 24 years, I guess, give or take a pregnancy. < 1380203663 76929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ottianna/oerjan/ < 1380203668 601621 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajjjaja < 1380203676 559588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1380203687 227900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: ¿de qué país viene? < 1380203700 400429 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cumana < 1380203778 889427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate nails it again. en:cumana becomes fr:cumana. yééééé... < 1380203792 685091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: parles-tu français? < 1380203799 236064 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380203800 372404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's a city name < 1380203814 882414 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1380203938 814100 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: nuestro traductor español regular es fuera del canal. estoy tratando de convencerlo de que venga aquí. < 1380203973 877980 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nose pero si tu lo dices < 1380204235 320375 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1380204237 234181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bi \ bin \ bin` \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ dog \ etc \ factor \ file \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ mind \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1380204245 877442 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls src < 1380204247 723669 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck.fu \ egobot.tar.xz \ emmental.hs \ factor-linux-x86-64-0.95.tar.gz \ fueue.c \ ul.emm < 1380204252 511664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? spanish < 1380204254 313954 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380204260 421322 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pity < 1380204268 78705 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, where's that main-as-a-value program stored? < 1380204268 935695 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear one of the egos had a translator < 1380204283 314841 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380204308 345668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share < 1380204310 172988 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome \ cat \ construct_grams.pl \ delvs-master \ esolangs.txt \ esolangs.txt.sorted \ hello \ hello.c \ lua \ maze \ maze.c \ radio.php?out=inline&shuffle=1&limit=1&filter=*MitamineLab* \ units.dat \ WordData < 1380204323 427902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat share/hello.c < 1380204323 592306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote hogy < 1380204325 155983 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :const short main[] = {18517,58761,49201,49801,49407,51081,3816,0,18432,27749,28524,8236,28535,27762,8548,24074,3762,1295,15536,-207,1295}; < 1380204325 729958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :33) `translatefromto hu en Hogy hogy hogy ami kemeny How hard is that < 1380204337 63493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ^ < 1380204341 450470 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks oerjan < 1380204342 986082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, oerjan. Thoerjan. < 1380204343 282007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate from to en es my hovercraft is full of eels < 1380204348 97322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 5, in \ print eval(sys.argv[1]).encode('utf-8') \ File "", line 1, in \ TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable < 1380204362 432021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate en es my hovercraft is full of eels < 1380204363 807990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translatefromto en es hello ottianna how are you < 1380204365 232961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the translate commands bit rotted ages ago. < 1380204365 931838 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 4, in \ data = json.loads(sys.stdin.read().decode('utf-8')) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 310, in loads \ return _default_decoder.decode(s) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 346, in decode \ obj, end < 1380204367 420653 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/json", line 4, in \ data = json.loads(sys.stdin.read().decode('utf-8')) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/__init__.py", line 310, in loads \ return _default_decoder.decode(s) \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/json/decoder.py", line 346, in decode \ obj, end < 1380204374 528637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like so. < 1380204377 623305 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1380204395 595318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google's api changed, or something. < 1380204400 630380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like the kind of thing that's elliott's fault < 1380204411 386780 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, in fact, they obliterated it, iirc. < 1380204424 208844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hogy hogy hogy. < 1380204573 576739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/translatefromto < 1380204574 974138 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ TEXT="$1" \ FROM=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` \ TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` \ TO=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/ .*$//'` \ TEXT=`echo "$TEXT" | sed 's/^[^ ]* //'` \ if [ "$FROM" = "auto" ] ; then FROM="" ; fi \ \ curl -e http://codu.org/ http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/language/translate \ \ --data-urlenco < 1380204590 882155 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mandame una mensaje < 1380204632 377766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i '1aecho "This google api no longer exists."; exit 1' bin/translatefromto < 1380204636 750480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380204647 589484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate oh noes! < 1380204650 913541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :This google api no longer exists. < 1380204714 175774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: solamente si usted participa en la dominación mundial de los lenguajes de programación esotéricos. < 1380204738 190741 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :claro} < 1380204796 674308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((EXTERMINAR! )S:^):^ < 1380204796 819443 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! EXTERMINAR! ...too much output! < 1380204887 236535 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who wrote the main-as-a-value program? < 1380204918 34458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i don't remember, search the logs? < 1380204947 906323 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`share/hello < 1380204949 174392 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1380205056 728441 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380205113 808901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like Jafet http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=hello.c < 1380205161 144349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some help from fizzie. < 1380205946 90533 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380206036 513698 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1380206049 676877 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380206217 581513 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :xterminate < 1380206275 793248 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/log?rev=q.c < 1380206602 459997 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380206621 228502 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1380206655 971575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :pueblos moras < 1380206669 867053 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :donde es eso < 1380206702 56577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso est morenas dans le cucaracha < 1380206725 143578 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajajajajajajaja < 1380206754 260577 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jajajajajajjajajajjajajjajajajajajajjajajjajajajjaajjajaja < 1380206762 933973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :huehuehuehuehuehuehuehue < 1380206799 256024 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :=-O:-*O:-) jajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajajaajajajajjajaja < 1380206871 658889 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ton francés est doloroso. < 1380206890 194803 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no entendo l que dices < 1380206895 846608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! me modes dias tom francis, est tortillas grandes < 1380206908 816827 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:o < 1380207156 197169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e trur dokker e speinna gærn < 1380207174 789879 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otra vez en inges < 1380207219 809914 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: no es necesario entender lo que se dice aquí. todo puede suceder. tenga cuidado con las personas extrañas. diviértete con el ~duck. < 1380207231 221544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :psycho killer, qu'est que c'est? < 1380207249 705949 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: «ous croyons docks e serrage fou»????????? < 1380207252 677708 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya se < 1380207316 485243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's surprisingly close. < 1380207346 597774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: j'y pige que dalle. < 1380207348 936729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does not imply it's close, mind you. < 1380207382 146942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. apparently, «j'y pige que dalle» becomes “I freelance shit”. way to go, google!) < 1380207408 505615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fyi, that one means “fsck if I understand”.) < 1380207437 67489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1380207449 30410 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dale < 1380207469 668947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out google is a bit weak on northern norwegian dialects without official spelling norms < 1380207482 968712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ottianna: fr:dalle → es:losa. < 1380207496 849082 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjjajajajajjaj < 1380207501 398812 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was d'alle < 1380207505 6662 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nelianny < 1380207522 347066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: I prefer the flagstone version. < 1380207542 341700 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: by the way, I'm terribly confused by the bokmål/nynorsk issue. < 1380207544 22850 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you flagstone shit < 1380207558 921112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it doesn't understand the normalized "spenna gærne" either. < 1380207598 324434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtrans suggests “gæren”. < 1380207605 954110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet < 1380207629 596366 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jjajajja < 1380207636 749476 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parcomètre. < 1380207654 451872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "I think you're * crazy" where * ~ spenna and has no proper translation although i guess "fucking" will do. < 1380207677 334122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also the you is plural.) < 1380207706 404467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah. much clearer, now. «je pense que vous être tous crissement mongols.» < 1380207714 355071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/être/êtes/ < 1380207726 452225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not even able to properly conjugate my own verbs. shameful.) < 1380207884 148717 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: je pense que vous hêtre un arbre, monsieur < 1380207928 142823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well ok so in 1814 when norway got transfered from denmark to sweden in a big post-napoleonic war mess, our official writing language was _danish_. < 1380207929 99166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: bon point. < 1380207973 477019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but you still spoke norwegian, right? < 1380207987 125561 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380207993 481371 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did _you_ speak danish at the time? < 1380208006 936667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mess left us with great inne autonomy (and a constitution), which meant despite being unioned with the swedes we could start being a bit openly nationalistic. and then people thought, we shouldn't keep writing danish. < 1380208012 155593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no. < 1380208018 433658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inner < 1380208081 48812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well except for the upper classs in the capital, which were in fact at one earlier point said to have the best danish pronunciation in the kingdom. < 1380208154 258386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant that even after a while had gone, the upper class spoke a norwegian language much closer to danish than what the lower and rural classes did. < 1380208168 260405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*had passed < 1380208253 77051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, when deciding how to turn our writing language from danish to norwegian, there was the question of whether to start from the upper class speech and gradually norwegianize that, or whether to start radically by making up an entirely new writing language from "pure" norwegian as spoken out in the country. < 1380208270 93859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perversely, we did _both_. < 1380208281 969680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inner Danish. < 1380208327 441405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bokmål descends from the former, nynorsk from the latter. although both forms have been brought _much_ closer than they originally were back in the late 19th century. < 1380208377 646131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and during the 50's/60's the government tried to push for the final unification by mixing together the least extreme forms on both sides. < 1380208385 273457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that backfired horribly. < 1380208403 923014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1950's/1960's. < 1380208441 743115 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can understand the dichotomy between spoken and written language (French has it), but your case is as you said: perverse. < 1380208459 565968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because although the forms have many commonalities, they have incompatible base _aesthetics_. < 1380208483 357910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so the mixture was considered by many to be unspeakably ugly. < 1380208555 961602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so we still have two forms today. although nynorsk has lost a lot of ground, so bokmål is the default in most respects except in a fraction of municipalities. < 1380208620 347997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about all these dialects? that's another subject I have a poor grasp on, because, well... Québec French is Québec French wherever you are (with some minor accent variations). < 1380208726 588076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the same time from the 70's or so, norwegians developed the unusual habit of insisting on speaking dialect. in fact it started as part of the movement to preserve nynorsk "Speak dialect, write nynorsk!" is the slogan. the latter part did not succeed so much, the former succeeded brilliantly. < 1380208730 590496 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere. < 1380208751 726964 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380208763 550306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so you speak a northern dialect, and write bokmål, if I'm not mistaken? < 1380208769 904749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380208806 670049 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you understand and can communicate with other norwegians? (not necessarily by morse) < 1380208815 488412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall recently someone pointed out even our crown princess speaks dialect :P < 1380208871 328729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the crown prince grew up in upper class oslo, which is the least dialecty part of the country.) < 1380208912 336182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes. < 1380208949 401877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some dialects that are harder to understand, but they're not so often met around here. < 1380208951 720343 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The average English speaker is fluent in their language at the age of 12, in contrast, the average Polish speaker is fluent in their language after age of 16." < 1380209099 739910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw you might ask, back in the 19th century, why anyone even _cared_ about non-upper class language. this might be connected with an unusual feature of the norwegian constitution of 1814: it gave the vote to farmers. < 1380209131 947839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think was immensely radical at the time. < 1380209153 153319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it did _not_ give the vote to city laborers.) < 1380209211 731802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there may have been a distinction between farmers owning their own land and farmers renting, and only the former got to vote. i vaguely think. but still, it meant in norway, the countryside could not be ignored. < 1380209238 322954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"File:Om nom nom (4001714942).jpg" Wikimedia Commons has them bestly named files. < 1380209278 80341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I believe most people would consider literacy as a critical component of modern language. Primary evidence is the article itself, which is written, not spoken. " god i love this comment < 1380209424 550115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw there are not as big dialectal variations in norway today as there used to be back when every valley was basically isolated. the dialects seem to be consolidating in each region. < 1380209450 412622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that valley isolation part may explain why we had so many to start with.) < 1380209468 951473 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess. Norway is like Switzerland, but longer. < 1380209489 427708 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is it a file of? < 1380209543 859199 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380209553 363516 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that sounds roughly like English but I think we started a lot earlier? < 1380209574 306563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty much. although there's also the fjords, which meant that at one time it was easier to travel by boat than by land, many places. < 1380209634 606506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: we have at least one fjord here! :D < 1380209639 399436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i suppose quebec might not have so many dialects because the french-speakers got there only a few centuries ago? < 1380209655 68657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also boily < 1380209667 314164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Québec City was settled in 1608, so yeah, very much not long ago. < 1380209675 228392 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't know, the US has a lot of accents < 1380209681 144265 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again it's a lot more spread out < 1380209683 542169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US is _huge_. < 1380209692 181334 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there are ten times as many Americans vs. Canadians. < 1380209696 973824 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truuuue < 1380209729 846358 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 100 years ago around here you could tell what village someone came from from his accent < 1380209800 878721 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380209813 91192 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a not quite related note, what is the name of that thing where you can spot in which language something is written by its characteristics, like «ő» means Hungarian, but you don't speak the language itself? < 1380209851 675587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1380209975 691808 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380210283 420700 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380210548 796441 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pattern recognition? :) < 1380210649 624154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: yes, but from the human side. like, simple heuristics, where the error rate doesn't need to tend towards zero. < 1380210689 371107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version. < 1380210847 288677 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. apparently it's called “language identification”. makes sense. < 1380210870 238719 :ais523_!93bcc349@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380210910 758765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ < 1380210972 86660 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, boily is almost the entire topic now < 1380211306 535395 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380211338 544409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover TOPIC #esoteric :Ultra Pattern Recognition with Sliced Pineapple and a Small Umbrella Version | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | the boily at the end of all things < 1380211359 262088 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380211771 811439 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380211838 801436 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380211998 536657 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380212007 124151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380212318 188044 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380213084 74464 :ais523_!93bcc349@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.73 QUIT : < 1380213140 751560 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1380214036 263387 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380214162 276734 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214298 539675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, hard disks are so hard to open. < 1380214321 593557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm throwing away some broken ones, and wanted to maybe make data restoration slightly more difficult.) < 1380214341 545731 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard disk magnets are dangerous to my physical integrity. < 1380214378 794330 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Client Quit < 1380214427 224281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even get this controller board off, because two of the six (Torx) screws went all mushy. (I think my Torx head might be one size too small.) < 1380214486 578364 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214512 606464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a T10 and a T15 and the T15 doesn't fit, while the T10 just turns around. < 1380214516 276163 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380214586 346734 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But will it blend? < 1380214658 703136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really have a blender. < 1380214704 693901 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380214753 257896 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have a lawnmower? < 1380214821 903381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have one of those either. < 1380215018 978383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: can you do penspinning with a kitchen knife? < 1380215210 325590 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long you'd have to boil a hard disk before you would manage to reduce it to a rich broth. < 1380215423 744619 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380215461 777361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Images/meat-tenderizer.jpg < 1380215814 111556 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard disk tenderizer < 1380216036 702438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, when i was your age a meat tenderiser was just a big mallet < 1380216221 146806 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not *that* young. < 1380216320 311552 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was your age "Meat Tenderizer" was my gay porn name. < 1380216388 328232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL that Patrick Swayze died four years ago. < 1380216404 718139 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380216516 676040 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I seem to recall hearing that. < 1380216518 603159 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four years ago. < 1380216531 716453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only knew after community made a joke about it < 1380216594 839522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :random generelectronic question: can I buy an e-ink display that interfaces just like common LCDs? < 1380216834 705431 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380217048 852182 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deterministic prelectronicise answer: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/small-epaper-shield-p-1597.html < 1380217136 407220 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380217220 185271 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380217752 987924 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380218089 730692 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380218396 269064 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone heard news of the When reference implementation? < 1380218418 724396 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than "You will 'soon' be able to lay your grubby little hands on it." in 2001 < 1380219251 870532 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grin seems to be the only esolang that has a builtin “arccos” function. < 1380219471 586203 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380219581 931356 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: How about Tiny? < 1380219600 438815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Qwerty Reverse Polish Notation? < 1380219609 945346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Stlang? < 1380219619 14845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or KimL? < 1380219634 321857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Or Gammaplex? < 1380219657 166656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I wasn't up to there, skipped Gammaplex, and I said “seems”. < 1380219660 404248 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about IRP < 1380219668 179497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP is a myth. < 1380219676 557621 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380219681 534238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly all those call it "acos". < 1380219691 617389 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :burlesque has it i think < 1380219705 51257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. for a very, very week value of “seems”. < 1380219721 258687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because I'm browsing the hello-world-in-esolangs page. < 1380219764 208440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Burlesque is a Stlang derivative, so it makes sense it'd have it too. < 1380219787 231316 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of burlesque, where has mroman disappeared? < 1380219802 5641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's something people do, disappear. < 1380219819 129754 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's still in #anagol! < 1380219898 185501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Temptation of Succumbing to the ~Duck is strong, but I will heed the Phantom and not do that. < 1380219908 432964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1380219908 813696 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Swallowing" to "Shake" < 1380220729 939792 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380221320 277798 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380221405 309292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when trying to cram an acronym into a common word doesn't quite work out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOCK < 1380221438 171432 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why they can't just call it "clock" < 1380221444 796367 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting the 'L' to be the contrived part < 1380221469 243699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same. < 1380221471 432035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In humans, a polymorphism in Clock, rs6832769, may be related to the personality trait agreeableness" amazing < 1380221491 966414 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you expected the COCK to be okay < 1380221495 200099 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a quick way to cut a video in half, like get the first thirty seconds of a sixty second video? in mp4. < 1380221646 828553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :University of Tromsø is the world's northernmost university. < 1380221741 880313 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380221760 786201 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -vcodec copy -acodec copy -ss 00:00:00 -t 00:00:30 trimmed_video.mp4 < 1380221781 794207 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you need exactly half of it, always? < 1380221787 970443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no,that works, thanks. < 1380222938 181003 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380222963 128187 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HLA Q CESHA < 1380223129 869463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :XOR EAX, EAX < 1380223157 502257 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380223197 256953 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a prof of mine said, xor eax, eax isn't faster than mov eax, 0 anymore (iff the cpu has a special zero register) < 1380223202 735188 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380223246 403035 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: maybe, but I think xor eax, eax has entered Idiomatic Legendary Status. < 1380223286 143428 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well, it may be, but moving between registers can be made in "0 cycles" < 1380223383 273067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... there should be a special opcode that covers the whole xor instruction (with registers and all), that translates to the mov version. < 1380223407 499133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that way, you could xor things with themselves, have performance, and be happy with it. < 1380223439 135131 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not unlikely that this is done < 1380223467 481107 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in this case xor is not faster than mov, it is equally fast at best < 1380223511 682201 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more confused about "loop" considered slow < 1380223534 730657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. loop incurs branches, therefore branch prediction, therefore hair loss. < 1380223540 93008 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. slower than dec rcx & cmp rcx, 0 & jne < 1380223576 44936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you make the jump without loop, you still need branch prediction < 1380223587 790631 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"xor eax, eax" is denser, though. < 1380223607 330858 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'd build a processor, i'd make loop as always taken < 1380223679 228231 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'd build a processor, I'd have an MP3 opcode. < 1380223704 906624 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could even make some magic like "if rcx is 1 set the prediction to not taken instead" to make literally 0 flushes in a loop < 1380223717 456898 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that? < 1380223719 28115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dependency Breaking Idioms -- Instruction parallelism can be improved by using common instructions to clear register contents to zero. The renamer can detect them on the zero evaluation of the destination register. -- Use one of these dependency breaking idioms to clear a register when possible. -- XOR REG, REG -- Since zero idioms are detected and removed by the renamer, they have no ... < 1380223725 35878 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... execution latency." < 1380223750 31572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Goes a reasonable recent version of the Intel Optimization Manual on the topic of clearing a register.) < 1380223779 544392 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because I'd like to. something that really, really shouldn't get reduced to an opcode. < 1380224007 953287 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380224123 712129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for LOOP, "Assembly/Compiler Coding Rule 31. (M impact, M generality) Avoid using complex instructions (for example, ENTER, LEAVE or LOOP) that have more than four µops and require multiple cycles to decode. Use sequences of simple instructions instead. -- Complex instructions may save architectural registers, but incur a penalty of 4 µops to set up parameters for the microsequencer ROM ... < 1380224129 724866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... in Intel NetBurst microachitecture." < 1380224158 750031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also something something about Core microarchitecture and 4-1-1-1 templates and diminishing returns. < 1380224179 635874 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember right microcodey things can often use like 8-10+ clocks < 1380224200 214357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(micro-ops which are executed out of the microsequencer involve extra overhead). < 1380224203 217572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1380224217 759084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use LOOP often enough they'll optimize it to be the fastest alternative < 1380224236 280786 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this says LOOP is 5 cycles (7 uops) on haswell, LOOP(N)E is 6 cycles (11 uops)? < 1380224243 336223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to use it quite a lot to offset what all the mainstream compilers are doing. < 1380224257 462581 :ottianna!~canaima@190.198.158.87 PART :#esoteric < 1380224316 195950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if GCC "-Os" can be coaxed to LOOP, though. < 1380224326 398145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson of the day: don't use loops. at all. in fact, write you programs with no branches whatsoever. < 1380224497 175314 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: indeed < 1380224521 447855 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, don't make any data that depends on each other to avoid data hazards < 1380224522 414364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The Optimization Manual, IIRC, sort of recommends against that. < 1380224545 562779 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: having an MP3 opcode, or writing without branches? < 1380224550 842609 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing without branches. < 1380224578 126083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AArch64 (the 64-bit ARM arch) removed most of the predicated execution because "our branch predictor is so good, they're not that useful any more". < 1380224584 380891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Paraphrasing there.) < 1380224591 353273 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: as in predicated instructions? of course < 1380224609 214546 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1380224668 826843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Benchmarking shows that modern branch predictors work well enough that predicated execution of instructions does not offer sufficient benefit to justify its significant use of opcode space, and its implementation cost in advanced implementations." < 1380224672 842275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Without paraphrasing.) < 1380224729 579970 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380224742 191067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One assumes perhaps the "significant use of opcode space" was more of an issue because they needed to fit more register bits in there. (AArch64 also doubled the number of registers.) < 1380224769 596194 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they keep predication for a few common cases ? < 1380224775 656474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard they did something like that < 1380224781 444418 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they did that. < 1380224790 5558 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like I guess "conditional add" is way nicer than "conditional leading zero count") < 1380224795 232141 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, do you know which ones? < 1380224814 394639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "Only conditional branches, and a handful of data processing instructions read the condition flags." < 1380224824 774968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's not much of an answer. < 1380224828 855408 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I guess not^^; < 1380224839 758239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome jix < 1380224843 207303 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07jix03: Wel10c06o02me to th08e i02nternationa03l hub for esoteric prog02ramming language 09desi11gn a14nd11 deploy05m08e11nt! 02Fo09r more 02information, check ou08t o14ur wiki: htt13p://eso07langs.org/wik13i/Main_Page. (For the ot10her kind o07f esoterica,11 04t14r10y #esoteric on irc.11dal.n04et.) < 1380224856 184315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's sad that they removed predicated instructions from ARM < 1380224861 820244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that was mostly the case already with Thumb < 1380224863 772979 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they did? < 1380224866 992647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1380224879 338820 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thumb2 has the weird if-then-else instructions < 1380224886 554758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They didn't include IT either. < 1380224890 218937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Leg have those? < 1380224890 977406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw damn < 1380224899 509228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going to call it Leg instead of AArch64 if that's OK with everyone) < 1380224921 265208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Oh, the document I was quoting (pasted from irclogs) has more detail. Just a moment. < 1380224923 767458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that mean that switching to x86 is giving up an arm and a leg? < 1380224927 417087 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1380224961 452564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "The conditional instruction types are: Conditional branch -- Add/subtract with carry -- Conditional select with increment, negate or invert -- Conditional compare" < 1380224975 385080 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380224977 360875 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that covers a lot of it < 1380224990 841402 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost eeeverything I've ever felt like I wanted conditionals for were conditional move/add/subtract < 1380225039 759184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Conditional select with X" means you can select between two source registers based on the condition flag, and the other source can optionally be unmodified/negated/incremented/inverted. < 1380225048 547247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's kind of like a three-argument CMOV on steroids. < 1380225053 197916 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh, that's cool. < 1380225077 989083 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that kind of "source can be optionally {long list of things}" reminds me of vpperm < 1380225093 887325 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380225126 29463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "conditional compare" means it does a comparison if the specified condition is true, otherwise sets it to an immediate value, and the idea is to flatten nested conditionals without needing to do conditional branches or arithmetic with boolean values. < 1380225159 977901 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like.... if( x > y ) x = 1? < 1380225167 194356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sets what? the flag? < 1380225196 675902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, the flag that would otherwise be set as per the result of the comparison. < 1380225208 124241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380225211 19461 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh. < 1380225224 211938 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a compare that only saves its results if a condition is true? < 1380225233 518214 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like if( cond ) { condition flag = {cond2} } < 1380225245 400923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: Yes. (Well, it also does not do the comparison, but I'm not sure how you'd observe that.) < 1380225268 913894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense with big complicated if statements and stuff. < 1380225306 177876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: And now that I read this more closely, it seems as if "add/subtract with carry" meant just that; it's not a specifically conditional add/subtract, but instead it was listed as a "conditional instruction type" because it uses a condition (the carry flag) as an input. < 1380225314 598503 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh :< < 1380225337 180255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wow this VPPERM instruction is pretty fancy < 1380225343 315426 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's fun!! < 1380225529 359594 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: As a minor additional note, the "conditional select" group includes also "conditional set", the x86 "SETcc" thing. (Except there's one variant to select between 0/1, and another to select between 0/-1, which I suppose could be nice for doing some conditional masks. Although maybe you don't need to do that many masks with the conditional select from two regs.) < 1380225557 745629 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh. that's kinda nice. especially since I'm guessing it won't be like setcc and only work on 8-bit registers -_- < 1380225595 541662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, it's full registers. < 1380225621 98364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chess programming wiki, that dabbles in assembly instructions. what has the world come to → http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/XOP#VPPERM < 1380225631 140962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i saw that -- pretty awesome < 1380225641 107484 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :chess programming stuff has loots of assembly and microoptimization things < 1380225644 908897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda cool really :o < 1380225645 321264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, there's conditional increment/invert/negate... oh, of course, those are just special cases of "conditional select and X" with the both source registers the same. < 1380225646 150805 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380225740 152215 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but it's only chess! why does it need that much microfiddling? < 1380225758 31769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's still kinda cool. completely unobvious.) < 1380225767 420552 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, well, like, you need to find fast ways to perform common operations like < 1380225769 299717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Another fi. < 1380225776 442291 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you represent a board, or like, how do you calculate which squares can be attacked < 1380225796 896576 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you need to generate moves fast (at any given node in your minimax tree) and have a heuristic that's evaluated fast < 1380225845 893715 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: autocompletion once again fail me. < 1380226041 590062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever tried minmaxing anything? looking a dozen moves ahead in tic tac toe is hard, let alone chess < 1380226105 345699 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we did some minmaxing back in some random university class. it didn't work. < 1380226157 872193 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I recall correctly a lot of the top chess programs do like. 5 million nodes per second or more < 1380226185 270585 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380226204 345042 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~it's exponential~ < 1380226204 642029 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1380226210 963354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo shut up < 1380226219 297364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. < 1380226249 764060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it stands to reason that you want to reduce the coefficient of those exponents as much as possible. Right? Right. < 1380226301 918502 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: reducing dimensions is usually the first step → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_dimensionality < 1380226323 212246 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, you wanna prune the tree too. < 1380226358 913506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the soonest you remove things, the soonest you can arrive at the wrong answer. < 1380226384 504966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then prune the wrong answer off, and start again until the only thing left is the right answer.) < 1380226542 267436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :98% of the participants of the "Introduction to AI" course I helped with minmaxed during the course programmng project. < 1380226617 843961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally up to something like 4-6 ply. < 1380226635 883362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game / problem? < 1380226688 786538 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a game that really was only used on the course -- http://www.niksula.cs.hut.fi/~svirpioj/hierarkia/rules_en.html < 1380226719 604020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Branching factor generally about 1.5-2x that of chess, from what I recall. < 1380226728 721300 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380226817 192968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha-beta pruning (which maybe 80-90% did) with perfect move ordering in theory lets you look twice as far. < 1380226907 59845 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380226973 179185 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I remember reading that they found that (up to a point) shorter, more exhaustive searches tended to be better than deeper, less branchy ones (for chess at least) < 1380226991 777582 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that's with stuff like quiesence searches and check extensions < 1380227017 446178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall one submission where a last-minute change flipped the sign in an otherwise well-working minmax-with-alpha-beta search system, so that the AI in question made a pretty good effort to lose every game it played. < 1380227025 68716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm yes *examines words while holding chin in thoughtful gesture* < 1380227052 426746 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION examines fizzie while holding Bike's chin in thoughtful gesture
< 1380227090 77928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You made that sound like an adventure game action. < 1380227130 330604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a pretyt in-depth game if it understands all that. < 1380227281 438706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe just the first part. < 1380227282 25936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOTER: Explore the dungeons of #esoteric! Battle the Dragon of Diæresis! Grab wonderous loot, and examine Finns! < 1380227786 611573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did you even get the diaeresis thing from boily < 1380227830 404973 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. < 1380228442 278892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1380228452 483987 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380228648 609704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zzo38 < 1380228739 807397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tsk tsk, totally incccurate sample < 1380228820 839133 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380228940 491138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe zzo was on SA < 1380229197 129204 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SA? < 1380229206 671187 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo was on South America!? < 1380229225 743032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb < 1380229248 936259 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :phantom_hoover < 1380229257 865646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Tooter. < 1380229259 422117 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tired and confused and don't know what is going on < 1380229267 766757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you killed the moment fizzie < 1380229302 829188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: The curiosity killed the bot. < 1380229303 168213 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm fnord back at the end of the sequence, then they're the same < 1380229771 115189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380229804 645891 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nautil.us/issue/5/fame/the-twin-prime-hero it makes me unreasonably angry that they are still pulling this shit < 1380229818 727345 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380229838 733227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/KbZZ <- that's not good at all. < 1380230093 514497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Opening the offending file in evince and printing it to a PDF file made it work. Computers! < 1380230280 183921 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of some online checkin that produced PDFs that was only readable on one computer and that was not the computer that was connected to any printer < 1380230331 673613 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ended up mailing each boarding card to the one who could read them, convert them to pdf, mail them again to the guy who could print < 1380230358 891894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, boarding passes, that's also always a fun. < 1380230366 733783 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380230385 649009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I once printed one at a hotel where the computer connected to their printer had no PDF viewer I could find. < 1380230405 134226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ended up opening it on the laptop and print-to-fileing to that one Microsoft things, whatsitcalled. < 1380230416 519124 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :WMF? < 1380230426 389810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the more PDF-alike. < 1380230427 520938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :XPS? < 1380230445 42416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, XPS. < 1380230464 189700 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? XPS < 1380230465 769318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Microsoft XPS Document Writer" by default. < 1380230466 870992 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :XPS? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380230483 197940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The XPS Document Writer allows you to create .xps files using any program that you run on Windows. XPS documents look the same in print as they do on the screen. They are portable, like any other file that you can e–mail or transfer using a CD, DVD, universal serial bus (USB) drive, or network connection. They are also easy to share because you can view them on any computer where an XPS ... < 1380230489 708858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... viewer is installed, even if the computer does not have the same programs that you used to create the original documents." < 1380230496 344902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds quite a bit like PDF, doesn't it? < 1380230548 408938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ECMA standard and all. < 1380230589 689590 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1380230593 722808 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1380230619 709317 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380230846 541381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pulling what? < 1380231030 180597 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reporting everything that happens in maths as the result of a lone genius < 1380231096 769761 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380231249 516450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically was in this case to start with, wasn't it? < 1380231467 280181 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380232342 120808 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380232363 188748 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380232563 250189 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380232897 613783 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380233539 660744 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380234107 991103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : XOR EAX, EAX < 1380234133 314120 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :INC EAX < 1380234141 648120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should tell zzo38 of my new invented spell to annihilate frogs. < 1380234164 592055 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, in ARM ASM, xor is eor < 1380234176 295043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you simply intone the magical words BREKEKEKEX XOR EAX, EAX < 1380234279 554598 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that annihilates frogs < 1380234282 931007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380234295 124142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Winnie the Pooh fans I assume < 1380234398 909637 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380234472 354160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeyore! Eeyore! Cthulhu Fhtagn! < 1380234484 318838 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380234580 27234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that exists http://miscellany.lolthulhu.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/swanson-eeyore.jpg < 1380234621 592246 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380234679 220593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brekekekex xor eax, eax was not googleable, alas < 1380234717 657654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose aristophanes hasn't truly permeated geek culture yet. < 1380234723 574267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike greek culture. < 1380234751 477670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the joke! < 1380234757 782004 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1380234758 836757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :via Major-General's Song naturally. < 1380234765 109312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380234781 589541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there was a joke? < 1380234836 372275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's always a joke, olsner < 1380234885 940936 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380234928 761214 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you don't see the joke, you are the joke < 1380235028 772086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1380235273 967470 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arisophanes is on my reading list but keeps going down < 1380235351 133248 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380235382 82907 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380235660 523087 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380236125 528957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord Diæresis < 1380236127 91990 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :68 105 230 114 101 115 105 115 < 1380236138 946587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nothing funny going on there < 1380236190 494734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ꙮ < 1380236191 962239 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :42606 < 1380236364 331134 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380236450 507360 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \0 < 1380236452 165078 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236470 258474 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \n < 1380236471 978640 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236481 734992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something funny going on there < 1380236490 890091 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380236761 862762 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380236932 789508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ord < 1380236934 380046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ echo "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { ord } split //, $_);' < 1380236986 916288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/sh/bash/' bin/ord < 1380236991 348065 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380236995 970792 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord \0 < 1380236997 857383 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :92 48 < 1380237028 39719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c 'echo \n' < 1380237029 278379 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237033 221574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo \n' < 1380237034 589300 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237044 88771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i even ask < 1380237062 515670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall it depends on whether it has terminal < 1380237068 496588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1380237072 145943 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a no < 1380237096 378943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, /bin/sh behaves in weird ways. < 1380237175 18432 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Give echo the -e flag < 1380237182 768058 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo -e \n' < 1380237184 379083 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1380237194 160490 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1380237197 249201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -c 'echo -e "\n"' < 1380237201 819150 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380237206 26468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :There < 1380237218 880536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sh -c 'echo -e "\n"' < 1380237220 342487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-e < 1380237225 940052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Good. < 1380237475 594812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l `which sh` `which bash` < 1380237477 937435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 926536 Apr 10 2010 /bin/bash \ lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 4 Oct 14 2011 /bin/sh -> dash < 1380237486 269937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dash? < 1380237488 806844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1380237898 744001 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380237962 185176 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380237962 330505 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380238155 86222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: is the account koen_ yours? it hasn't been used in a while. < 1380238177 634947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the same as koen) < 1380238190 414417 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my irc client thinks it's fun to join a server, disconnect, then join again when I open it < 1380238209 854312 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have Koen__ as my second choice and Koen_ as my third < 1380238222 529529 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380238224 49917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380238238 185167 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238247 812135 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better? < 1380238257 55097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO YOU ARE EVADING THE QUESTION < 1380238267 312763 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't allow to change nicks without logging out, as far as I know < 1380238285 837401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah I think it's mine < 1380238303 142856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to log in before it expires < 1380238325 38210 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm, not the usual password < 1380238350 757741 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1380238358 959091 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW THE PASSWORD OKAY < 1380238365 641728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1380238412 582581 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380238422 505241 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow < 1380238428 585300 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238437 635501 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was trying to sleep but apparently I need to write an interpreter for When before I can < 1380238610 255510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: i think you can probably get the account dropped and then reregister it, it's even the "2 weeks expiry if not used more than 2 hours after registration" clause. < 1380238617 453132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*even under < 1380238647 260053 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure I have used it less that 2 hours after registration < 1380238661 950053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's what i said. < 1380238682 444313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it would be expired anyhow under the 10 week clause. < 1380238698 472434 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's definitely been more than ten weeks since I used it < 1380238702 526802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i recall it used to be 60 weeks?) < 1380238716 567913 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean I'm not the one using it? < 1380238723 771894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why are you agreeing with me? i already checked with NickServ. < 1380238732 618071 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380238750 795987 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't agreeing with you I just had trouble understanding what you said < 1380238762 563812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm saying it _has_ expired, so you can get it dropped, thus reregister it with a password you know. < 1380238768 481506 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhh okay < 1380238798 747401 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do that I'll never know what the password was, though < 1380238814 978629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is a problem how? :P < 1380238834 335582 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just put it on the "I'll do it tomorrow" list < 1380238842 273835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good. < 1380238844 350091 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a First-in Never-out data structure < 1380238871 522174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah one of those. is it stored in one of those write-only memories? < 1380238877 462123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit it's friday < 1380238888 272050 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380238888 662279 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1380238896 110065 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still thursday here Phantom_Hoover < 1380238904 837981 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :25h41 < 1380238910 428349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random Standard Time! < 1380238927 346563 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380238933 821787 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380239054 809420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :best timezone < 1380239155 257280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1380239282 308917 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's funny you should say that, cause I'm starting to think that When's strings *are* write-only < 1380239315 73302 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, there's a concatenation operator, but no substring or array subscript operator < 1380239796 811053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the when specification doesn't actually specify the operators? < 1380239939 879813 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380240043 750808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there might well be more operators than those in the examples. otherwise the claim that strings make When TC seems unreasonable. < 1380240244 334319 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380240292 226485 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but the When specifications states that the operators should be fairly straightforward for anyone who's programmed in C-like languages < 1380240306 937892 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it also says that the only types are integers, strings, and null < 1380240311 300096 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no characters < 1380240312 252894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380240344 137917 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are any timezones in UTC+13 < 1380240344 849728 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing I could imagine would be a [] operator that would return a 1-char long string < 1380240432 747376 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%2B13:00 < 1380240477 739908 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :goes to 14, too < 1380240491 71995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bombay time was UTC+04:51 < 1380240527 816642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard a rumor once of a "Riyadh Mean Solar Time" which was adjusted every day so that the sun was absolutely overhead at noon < 1380240544 278910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one of the few timezones that the Olson timezone database doesn't support :D < 1380240566 299460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would riyadh need that for < 1380240571 905297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1380240602 697260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: did you know that random little bits of America opt out of daylight savings time < 1380240606 939086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't federalism great < 1380240611 35061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lists.globus.org/pipermail/gt-dev/2006-October/000844.html is the only thing google finds < 1380240623 351632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1380240637 853541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indiana. < 1380240694 830151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Indiana alone has 11 tz database entries < 1380240695 18050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTC%E2%88%9200:25#Dublin_Mean_Time < 1380240712 955738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMT < 1380240728 885692 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a programmer who lives in indiana and works with time sometimes. i've considered mailing him some of my antiepressants < 1380240736 167514 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :used in Lireland Standard Dates < 1380240736 353655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380240779 777585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most extensive study of time zone history in Indiana has been published in The American Atlas (1978) by Thomas G. Shanks, where the author identifies 345 areas in the state with a different time zone history for each. < 1380240799 152635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be cool to be definitively the world expert at that < 1380240837 135256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Arizona also ignores DST, except for some but not all of the Native American territories which are kind-of-part-of the state < 1380240843 388843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the book that tzdata is based on or something, I think < 1380240851 405951 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, googling "history of time in saudi arabia" comes up with "history of the jews in saudi arabia". who cares about that < 1380240862 633328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"they all lived together happily ever after the end" < 1380240862 965998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :history of time < 1380240870 355502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://naggum.no/lugm-time.html < 1380240874 640289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Long, Painful History of Time" < 1380240896 431350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well in C char is an integer type, maybe When works like that too. < 1380240904 356210 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380240906 44244 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1380240929 200480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do 'a' * 'b' in Rust until a few weeks ago < 1380240930 179797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I'll add a [ ] operator then < 1380240999 608463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what would riyadh need that for <-- the islamic calendar is afaiu based on direct astronomical observation rather than math, and the saudis are pretty big on islam. < 1380241042 12003 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well the jewish calendar is lunar and i've never heard of jerusalem switching to lunar months < 1380241123 304051 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm but in C, str[k] is a variable (an lvalue? am I using this term correctly?), it can be assigned < 1380241162 588602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an lvalue yeah < 1380241166 943482 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives it a different feel from the rest of When, in my opinion < 1380241193 250237 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it obviously has no rules attached as do other variables < 1380241249 171472 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Saudi Arabia uses the sighting method to determine the beginning of each month of the Hijri calendar. Since AH 1419 (1998/99) several official hilal sighting committees have been set up by the government to determine the first visual sighting of the lunar crescent at the beginning of each lunar month." < 1380241253 286124 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that would either mean that the assignment operator doesn't trigger any rules when assigning to str[k], or that it triggers str's rules, even though it's not directly str which is assigned < 1380241267 132936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing how incredibly boring theology is most of the time < 1380241366 463904 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could get creative and come up with a Praying@Home distributed theology < 1380241412 301300 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :islam has a long history of arguing over whether different kinds of theological arguments are worthwhile < 1380241437 507692 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :metametaphysics < 1380241574 420232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's called 'pataphysics < 1380241602 689925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i build a 'patatree in minecraft once < 1380241608 395439 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a successor to the earlier metatree < 1380241718 527664 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey any idea what "right-to-left" associativity means for UNARY operators? < 1380241744 433238 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or left-to-right for that matter - I just don't see what sense to make out of unary associativity < 1380241799 867552 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously !!x can only be interpreted as !(!x), right? < 1380241851 895123 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :associativity is a property of binary operators. < 1380241888 387875 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you've got some unary operator that can be indifferently postfix and infix, so !x! can be either of (!x)! and !(x!); but C precedence tables already list "postfix ++" and "infix ++" as two different operators with different priorities anyway < 1380241934 649882 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, well, n-ary where n > 1 < 1380241942 245121 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mother < 1380241968 70279 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i contend that it is your mother < 1380241976 943404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is associativity for a 3-ary function < 1380241991 209955 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they talk about "pseudo-associativity rule" for heaps, or something < 1380242013 857802 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heap_%28mathematics%29 < 1380242019 17612 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :para-associative law < 1380242039 303675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, cf. http://i.imgur.com/1zgFd.jpg < 1380242041 649874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo(foo(a,b,c),d,e) = foo(a,foo(b,c,d),e)? < 1380242052 125184 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1380242065 52608 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :php doesn't exist, sorry < 1380242115 756204 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the point here is that it uses the wrong associativity for ternary if < 1380242223 9992 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it just that it parses a?b:c?d:e as ?:(?:(a,b,c),d,e) < 1380242267 103501 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who parses it like that < 1380242267 646476 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's associativity, though < 1380242269 993596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of ?:(a,b,?:(c,d,e)). < 1380242274 495043 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? i don't know that's why i'm asking < 1380242277 701738 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a + b + c being +(a,+(b,c)) or +(+(a,b),c) < 1380242293 6470 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah that's math-associativity < 1380242295 573496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how you put the parens in to combinations of operators" < 1380242353 434767 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my definition for an operator to be math-associative is "you don't need a computer-associativity rule about it" < 1380242360 99196 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, if ?: was associative, ?:(?:(a,b,c),d,e) = ?:(a,?:(b,c,d),e) = ?:(a,b,?:(c,d,e)). < 1380242363 103985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be weird. < 1380242451 595487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm wondering about math associativity because i don't care about parsing) < 1380242491 671068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380242497 600590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Koen_ was talking about "right-to-left" associativity. < 1380242506 830638 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the topic changed completely somewhere here < 1380242525 173060 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I was reading wikipedia's C operators precedence table < 1380242537 485892 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of the boxes happens to have only unary operators < 1380242557 989395 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are specified to be right-to-left associative < 1380242565 337580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : (i'm wondering about math associativity because i don't care about parsing) < 1380242572 133963 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1380242590 377619 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's maths, you can't unambiguously generalise < 1380242613 588606 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why did you say "n-ary where n > 1" < 1380242621 773562 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i was talking about parsing < 1380242625 800342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380242630 547273 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boringgggg < 1380242674 589264 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: apparently e = a < d ? a++ : a = d is parsed differently in C and C++ < 1380242865 509200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: floating point + isn't math-associative < 1380242876 323633 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380242881 540250 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fun < 1380242936 790995 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any language where + isn't commutative because you can add anything with anything but the return type depends of the order of the arguments? < 1380242949 385610 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody else today was confused and annoyed by generating the sequence "1.2, 1.4, 1.6000001, 1.800001" or something. it gets so old < 1380242958 744905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: any language where + works on strings < 1380242977 509442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no, that's just noncommutativity, not what you said. sorry < 1380243021 750466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243022 667700 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.2,1.4,1.5999999,1.7999998,1.9999998,2.1999998,2.3999999,2.6,2.8,3.0,3.2,... < 1380243104 261415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: nice recovery there < 1380243142 974414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 7 [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243143 862862 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [2.6,2.8,3.0,3.2,3.4,3.6000001,3.8000002,4.0,4.2,4.3999996,4.5999994,4.7999... < 1380243165 935398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 17 [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243166 784455 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4.5999994,4.799999,4.999999,5.199999,5.3999987,5.5999985,5.7999983,5.99999... < 1380243204 154949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 24 [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243204 990940 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [5.999998,6.199998,6.3999977,6.5999975,6.7999973,6.999997,7.199997,7.399996... < 1380243205 767654 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 2439 [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243206 785509 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [488.97592,489.1759,489.3759,489.57587,489.77585,489.97583,490.1758,490.375... < 1380243226 320196 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :suh weet < 1380243240 475042 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50000 [0, 0.001 :: Float ..] < 1380243241 451830 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [49.974503,49.975502,49.9765,49.9775,49.9785,49.9795,49.9805,49.9815,49.982... < 1380243249 744719 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50000000 [0, 0.001 :: Float ..] < 1380243253 280700 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16... < 1380243263 721413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well, that's a good place to stop" < 1380243268 785821 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1380243270 426685 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :16384 certainly is a number. < 1380243275 198855 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 50000000 [0, 0.001 :: Double ..] < 1380243278 863926 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [49999.99988652039,50000.000886520385,50000.00188652038,50000.00288652038,5... < 1380243317 638920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> 2 >= length (break (=='.') (show x)) ) [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243318 496419 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a0]' < 1380243318 641823 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `([GHC.Ty... < 1380243321 78325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380243327 557364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask how to do that. < 1380243331 697946 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god for nerds < 1380243351 232477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\x -> 2 >= length (dropWhile (/='.') (show x)) ) [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243352 350423 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.2,1.4,2.6,2.8,3.0,3.2,3.4,4.0,4.2,18.8,19.0,19.2,74.8,75.0,75.2,940.6,94... < 1380243357 195497 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t zipWith < 1380243357 866057 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> b -> c) -> [a] -> [b] -> [c] < 1380243371 779797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1380243372 52636 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, whatever, don't remember enough stdlib < 1380243373 326393 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380243390 797678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 10 $ filter (\x -> 2 >= length (dropWhile (/='.') (show x)) ) [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243391 971634 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [19.0,19.2,74.8,75.0,75.2,940.6,940.8,941.0,941.2,941.4,1283.1,1283.3,1556.... < 1380243412 678753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 20 $ filter (\x -> 2 >= length (dropWhile (/='.') (show x)) ) [1.2, 1.4 :: Float ..] < 1380243413 842677 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1283.1,1283.3,1556.2,1556.4,1829.5,2068.4,2068.6,2170.9,2171.1,2273.4,2273... < 1380243425 547685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it keeps happening < 1380243447 801170 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I warned you about floating point, oerjan. < 1380243456 35566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi shut up elliott < 1380243465 803553 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he warned you bro. < 1380243475 978934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (!!) < 1380243476 626025 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :[a] -> Int -> a < 1380243483 758161 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +v :elliott > 1380243484 190173 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380243484 482712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle a -> [a] -> Int < 1380243484 711336 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List elemIndex :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> Maybe Int < 1380243484 856434 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List elemIndices :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> [Int] < 1380243484 856661 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Network.BufferType buf_concat :: BufferOp a -> [a] -> a < 1380243490 772206 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you, oerjan. I'm glad you appreciate my jokes so much. < 1380243495 344602 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to do the exact opposite of shutting up! < 1380243495 540986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "it keeps happening" is an appropriate response to the one where it keeps giving the same number xD < 1380243512 653834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^14 < 1380243513 681867 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16384 < 1380243518 480573 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot: is that a sweet bro and hella jeff reference? < 1380243518 735719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 4 == 4 < 1380243519 715501 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1380243596 282158 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> True == True < 1380243597 191219 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1380243607 264183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now elliott is impersonating me with his op powers? outrageous! < 1380243658 992042 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let list = [0, 0.001 :: Double..] in elemIndex True (zipWith (==) list ((\(a:b) -> b) list)) -- i'm the haskellest < 1380243659 893936 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:25: parse error on input `Double..' < 1380243667 866078 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let list = [0, 0.001 :: Double ..] in elemIndex True (zipWith (==) list ((\(a:b) -> b) list)) < 1380243675 21628 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1380243693 650404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let list = [0, 0.001 :: Float ..] in elemIndex True (zipWith (==) list ((\(a:b) -> b) list)) < 1380243696 381836 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Just 16764252 < 1380243730 115838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1676250 [0, 0.001 :: Float ..] < 1380243731 116127 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1649.6229,1649.6239,1649.6249,1649.6259,1649.6268,1649.6278,1649.6288,1649... < 1380243748 519891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 16764250 [0, 0.001 :: Float ..] < 1380243750 403767 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [16383.998,16383.999,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.0,16384.... < 1380243758 344880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the best programmer; you're welcome. < 1380243830 664457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^14 -- i reiterate < 1380243831 518580 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16384 < 1380243896 131469 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why 14 < 1380243910 686381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :floats have what, five bit exponent? i can't remember this stuff < 1380243923 38416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the mantissa that matters, i think < 1380243951 478194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 0.001 < 1380243952 312978 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : -9.965784284662087 < 1380243962 599972 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where'd fourteen come from! < 1380243980 746158 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you just remember that 16384 is a power of two < 1380243984 423360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380243989 393158 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow nerd < 1380244018 391953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i could have guessed it too. < 1380244049 29070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 16384 + 2^^(-10) :: Float < 1380244049 922500 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16384.0 < 1380244054 401705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 16384 + 2^^(-9) :: Float < 1380244055 354020 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 16384.002 < 1380244104 863777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :14+10 = 24 which is presumably around how many bits of mantissa there is. < 1380244112 566599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+- 1 < 1380244155 24716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so once it reaches 2^14, the 0.001 doesn't contain any bits large enough to affect the other number when added to it. < 1380244169 761113 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380244211 911237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src RealFloat < 1380244212 56869 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. Are you on drugs? < 1380244219 633729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src RealFrac < 1380244219 779103 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :class (Real a, Fractional a) => RealFrac a where < 1380244219 779288 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : properFraction :: (Integral b) => a -> (b,a) < 1380244219 779394 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : truncate, round, ceiling, floor :: (Integral b) => a -> b < 1380244239 118238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what is that class again < 1380244258 262300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t isIEEE < 1380244258 873511 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :RealFloat a => a -> Bool < 1380244267 901714 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1380244273 463456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it is RealFloat, @src just doesn't have it :( < 1380244345 481923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> floatDigits (undefined :: Float) < 1380244346 395278 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 24 < 1380244352 116449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go. < 1380244441 691354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::i RealFloat < 1380244463 136331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda.haskell.org/platform/doc/current/ghc-doc/libraries/haskell2010-1.1.1.0/Prelude.html#g:7 and scroll down a bit. < 1380244524 504160 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> floatRange (undefined :: Float) < 1380244525 548975 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : (-125,128) < 1380244547 709508 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight. well i guess that makes sense. < 1380244562 266033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lambda.haskell.org/platform/doc/current/ghc-doc/libraries/haskell2010-1.1.1.0/Prelude.html#t:RealFloat found the right anchor < 1380244776 184480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :atan2 somehow feels a little out of place in that class :P < 1380244866 552451 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, does the default implementation use decode or something < 1380244977 495576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it actually uses isNegativeZero. < 1380244984 125236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1380245018 136815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to select the proper branch < 1380245054 474577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it didn't bother with that, Floating and Ord would be sufficient. < 1380245057 341757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think. < 1380245125 667429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it would probably end up in RealFloat anyway, as the largest class subclassing both. < 1380245397 531358 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to resume watching The IT Crowd < 1380246065 288723 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :last episode's tomorrow night < 1380246069 924309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380247610 734598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code that I have written has run on ... maybe millions of computers < 1380247639 481594 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe not as many < 1380247644 716901 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :More than thousands I think, at least < 1380247671 423832 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://petewarden.com/2013/09/27/why-openheatmap-is-banned-from-github/ eesh. < 1380250485 819192 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I don't think this is valid HTML anymore http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html < 1380250591 776873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.the-pope.com/nextid.html < 1380250606 217899 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At present, it is likely that NEXTID will be dropped from the HTML specification, since it is not terribly useful. You are therefore advised against wasting your time reading the rest of this page!" "Last Update: 5 January 1998 < 1380250966 267529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo the web historian < 1380251299 178132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which code sgo < 1380251301 426031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re millions < 1380251361 792266 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any Javascript code that I've written on the job.. < 1380251388 565482 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ISP I work for is quite popular < 1380251410 344555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380252223 544397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380255110 332907 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380256893 223671 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380257178 178912 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380258087 739428 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-73-77.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380258203 704830 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380262647 209842 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380263390 363146 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Gotta go < 1380264092 544880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmp. Python argparse -- with a single positional argument with nargs='+' and optional arguments a, b and c -- can extract ['foo', 'bar', 'baz'] out of "-a x -b y -c z foo bar baz" or "foo bar baz -a x -b y -c z" just fine, but can't seem to cope with "-a x foo -b y bar -c z baz". As in, all positional arguments must be in a single group. < 1380265297 705214 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380268338 473573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380270577 408630 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380272041 878409 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380272398 217729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380272882 736823 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.114.157.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380273347 575931 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380273434 688602 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380273460 172359 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 24 hours I will be in a flat in York < 1380273950 930482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it almost like New York except old? < 1380273978 40035 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380274007 182961 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can even by shirts that say... < 1380274009 62858 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I♥ < 1380274010 27873 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y < 1380274199 369069 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm rather nervous < 1380274260 161562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just imagine the flat has no clothes on, I hear that helps. < 1380274309 570026 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure if I can picture a flat /with/ clothes on < 1380275040 674110 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is elliott voiced < 1380275048 422078 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not Gregor or Roujo < 1380276282 366505 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380276295 374273 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-131-19.as13285.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1380276301 394505 :atriq!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net NICK :Taneb < 1380276411 948086 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on Rummy mixed with Breakout < 1380276413 270145 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380276745 893418 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380277295 877785 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380277607 782111 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380277665 397342 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380277691 173800 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380277858 841795 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380277869 866953 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380278047 40619 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been spontaneously screaming "No!" more often than usual recently < 1380278910 849927 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380279941 695377 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380280084 709614 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380280440 799530 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380280840 368908 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term for something like a queuestack but the two ends are accessible in completely different ways and it is tricky to get something from one end to the other? < 1380280885 730131 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this < 1380281391 230703 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds queuerious < 1380282313 728615 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380282411 10710 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz… < 1380290491 709123 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380291313 713564 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380291631 767299 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380292163 724975 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380294780 735215 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380295035 720358 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380295062 230570 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380296758 358321 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380297089 316391 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380297863 174216 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir JOIN :#esoteric < 1380297956 415844 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1380298267 343327 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1380298273 271869 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome reynir < 1380298276 139077 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380298298 592810 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what a welcome :) < 1380298302 477763 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380298308 716501 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait till you see... < 1380298311 573717 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome reynir < 1380298314 823803 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14reynir: Welc04o10me t10o the internation14al hub for eso08teric p10rogr06a03mmi12ng la04nguage09 08design a02nd deplo10ym05ent! Fo14r m03ore in11forma03tion, 13check out our wiki: http:/05/es12ola04ngs.org/wiki/05Main_P07age. (For the other14 kind of es03oterica, try #11esoteric on i05rc.dal.net.)10 < 1380298319 228156 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380298342 580764 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been working on a compiler targeting brainfuck < 1380298377 661597 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it compile? < 1380298410 63402 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right now only simple arithmetic expressions with addition, subtraction and multiplication < 1380298416 899783 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a twist < 1380298427 156662 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's written in Coq, so it's a certified compiler < 1380298441 34554 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, fancy < 1380298460 175249 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the project https://github.com/reynir/Brainfuck < 1380298485 562874 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I know your nick from somewhere... < 1380298519 440814 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be from 0x10c. I recognize a few names from there < 1380298541 451981 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm there < 1380298576 923372 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if you have any tips for structuring programs / compiling to BF < 1380298630 48665 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me personally < 1380298645 403472 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm gonna have to go now, got to pack my computer < 1380298661 559111 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1380298670 866934 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1380298673 672804 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-171-30.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380299021 187513 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380299338 183384 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380299448 864897 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir, i want to make fun of you for liking 0x10c but my heart's not in it right now < 1380300013 818298 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1380300170 400106 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380300227 860959 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir, OK now I'm lightly intoxicated, and you were a fool to believe notch would ever manage to stick it through with another game < 1380300247 102371 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was quick, 12 minutes < 1380300283 728309 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380300294 975646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can I say, my spite recharges quickly. < 1380300331 677969 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean you're quick to get intoxicated < 1380300340 662565 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380300357 225229 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm honest that was just an excuse. < 1380300368 699250 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1380300427 876470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: your implicit suffering makes me happy < 1380300444 780904 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[...] (in Hindi): "Don't pretend you are studying farsi/looks like farsi to me"" < 1380300672 224986 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found this http://esolangs.org/wiki/brainfuck_algorithms < 1380300681 71579 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir, BTW how does your BF compiler work? < 1380300689 504701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. what's the source and the target? < 1380300777 469146 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source is arithmetic expressions with plus, minus, and multiplication. The target is brainfuck. < 1380300799 798207 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the source language is very simple and not very interesting < 1380300801 525593 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, interesting. Clicky? < 1380300816 127341 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1380300827 366596 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get some sort of a URL, project website, repo, anythign? :P < 1380300831 939666 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anything < 1380300850 211244 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sure. https://github.com/reynir/Brainfuck < 1380300872 51990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so wait, this thing has a right-infinite tape? < 1380300884 172490 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, both directions are infinite < 1380300923 519412 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easier when you don't have to deal with special cases all the time (i.e. going beyond the tape) < 1380300984 166400 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can imagine. < 1380301045 324154 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be awesome to compile a turing complete language eventually < 1380301080 385347 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a brainfuck to brainfuck compiler < 1380301085 786281 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is TC < 1380301102 147443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's not compiling from brainfuck < 1380301120 799294 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. I see it now < 1380301153 851822 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yea, I was considering doing optimizations and prove their correctness < 1380301174 205254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho do eodermdrome next < 1380301175 400254 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the idea to have a relatively low-level language, that is which uses a tape rather than variables? < 1380301203 226264 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you want do something more similar to "C subset to brainfuck" < 1380301297 87832 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, not sure. Right now I have proven some stack primitives (push, add, dup, ...) and just compile the expressions down to those < 1380301341 133851 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess the answer is the first and maybe the second. So, develop a theory for a simple stack machine and compile down to that < 1380301411 303070 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Well, it seems logical to call those cosets obtained by right multiplication the right cosets. These are usually called left cosets though. < 1380301411 448353 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380301453 366175 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: Yes, the stack based language could be used as an intermediate language I guess. < 1380301651 625354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380301676 599677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir, have you looked at underload < 1380301689 696915 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1380301700 696754 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380301719 480594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very small stack-based esolang < 1380301732 744797 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload to bf, has that been done yet? < 1380301847 432769 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1380301916 346472 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks interesting < 1380302404 886431 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380303009 923613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and I see someone else `relcommed in my absence. < 1380303233 929111 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380303639 138984 :asie!~textual@dynamic-78-8-19-86.ssp.dialog.net.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380303743 678042 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1380303744 143771 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271700Z VRB03KT 15SM FEW030 BKN042 18/10 A3029 RMK SC1SC4 SLP257 < 1380303817 314158 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380303865 148405 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380303907 146098 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380303999 979491 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, can you not just look out of your window to see the weather < 1380304022 517903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: too much light outside. < 1380304155 337200 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does codu discards logs when they're too old? < 1380304162 625118 :asie!~textual@dynamic-78-8-19-86.ssp.dialog.net.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380304171 367326 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-11-12 doesn't show here :( < 1380304322 73311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, well then stick your arm out < 1380304328 758520 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, no, everything is just broken < 1380304347 340844 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, I feel much better < 1380304407 570692 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: good idea. < 1380304579 888124 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380304869 707419 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380305093 189657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1380305093 754017 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 271750Z 36006KT 9999 FEW040 05/04 Q1008 NOSIG < 1380305098 5095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's dark out there.) < 1380305256 133079 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380305340 303132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I drove a silly little car around. < 1380305375 346355 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were there thirty clowns in it? < 1380305420 546972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, arguably just one. < 1380305465 608760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Fortwo <- that thing. (A rental.) < 1380305512 70430 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it yellow? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2008_Smart_ForTwo_Passion_convertible_--_04-22-2011_2.jpg | http://pbfcomics.com/258/ < 1380305599 907805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it was branded with the rental company (Sixt) logo; it's their cheapest thing. < 1380305667 65029 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just a normal smartcar < 1380305685 330071 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the name a Douglas Adams reference? < 1380305697 318401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Sure. Does that somehow make "silly little" not applicable? < 1380305697 495535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's a contraction of 'for two' < 1380305734 528924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes < 1380305754 122087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. < 1380305776 288600 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an MIB3 reference. < 1380305785 465929 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't sell the electric version in Finland, which is a shame. (Not that I'm in the market for a car, though.) < 1380305791 422940 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree. < 1380306292 688209 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380306339 782498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently WebKit doesn't do kerning / ligatures unless you put "text-rendering: optimizeLegibility;" in the CSS < 1380306346 987707 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380306351 966249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"text-rendering: not-shitty;" < 1380306433 85765 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -Olegibility < 1380306449 960498 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tries to make the machine code as close to english text as possible < 1380306453 581156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, we'll observe a merge between LaTeX and HTML. < 1380306468 571144 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making machine code alphanumeric is neat. < 1380306533 189660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1380306538 414119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a mapping from hexadecimal to carefully chosen consonnants and vowels, like how 0 becomes “o”, and so on. < 1380306553 45680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=57&id=15 "Writing ia32 alphanumeric shellcodes" < 1380306556 918052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, 9 should be “b”, so that a NOP slide on x86 becomes “bobobobobobo” :D < 1380306561 478772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1380306594 210673 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus there was that one paper about making programs that look enough like english text to fool most programs. < 1380306597 194111 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with words and stuff. < 1380306637 698149 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oooh, that sounds really cool < 1380306645 167602 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like shell code except crazier < 1380306687 720814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1380306689 161207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1380306706 728733 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.cs.jhu.edu/~sam/ccs243-mason.pdf maybe this < 1380306877 901705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1380306879 997263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so awesome < 1380306882 421172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Bike < 1380306990 528946 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also cool, JHU < 1380307002 317300 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's me, your source for random papers on random subjects < 1380307022 173055 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380307038 918267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend was a physics grad student there until he "temporarily" moved in with his girlfriend in San Francisco "for the summer" and then got a job and called them to say he's never coming back < 1380307060 902985 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrewd < 1380307179 276745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does an "avconv"-generated MP3 sound glitchy and print things like "[mp3float @ 0x7f3cb0606400]big_values too big" when seeking with mplayer? < 1380307179 845617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380307186 554862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that error message < 1380307188 951830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big values too big < 1380307210 706933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact when I first saw it I sent it to this channel < 1380307298 230359 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380307300 365467 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be a bug in the sideband demultiplexer < 1380307317 524641 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog big_values < 1380307324 344992 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380307325 765097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plays fine with vlc, FWIW. < 1380307362 524578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20705 < 1380307365 360768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Background information: I doubt the car plays FLACs. Though who knows.) < 1380307504 851294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it play Ogg Vorbis? < 1380307508 253378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly many things do < 1380307526 283742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all it has free implementations and no patent encumberance, so it's easy to add :) < 1380307543 67846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might, but it sounds like too much effort to make an extra round-trip to verify that. < 1380307549 732209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used Vorbis for many years as my standard format for encoding stuff to play on various devices < 1380307560 283508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's smaller than MP3 and encoders are easy to get < 1380307583 345367 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380307603 621493 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We won't have time to listen to a stickful of MP3s on this trip anyway, so I'll go with what's known to work this time. < 1380307635 885345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long is a stickful? < 1380307649 403364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Having said that, it'll probably turn out it barfs on a variable-bitrate MP3.) < 1380307660 717331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a two-gig stick. < 1380308100 146284 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380308111 286198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does frink support mp3/km? < 1380308157 957530 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warning: undefined symbol "mp3". < 1380309868 297267 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380309921 75550 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380310226 760763 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380310298 160160 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380311961 339668 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://c431376.r76.cf2.rackcdn.com/39056/fnins-07-00011-r2/image_m/fnins-07-00011-g001.jpg such fonts < 1380312104 169425 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the fonts? < 1380312343 191062 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380312378 270375 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380312849 331120 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0.13 on October 11!) < 1380313248 106119 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380313683 719171 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380313687 882052 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380313952 130199 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380314939 138053 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380315191 674631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, found and fixed a refcounting bug < 1380315200 753225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo, C++ libraries that do manual refcounting without smart pointers < 1380315235 922703 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-but... delete this... D: < 1380315250 174938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1380315285 359480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380315285 504846 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest said 3h 51m 13s ago: Well, it seems logical to call those cosets obtained by right multiplication the right cosets. These are usually called left cosets though. < 1380315317 545719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does indeed have essentially void unref() const { if (atomic_dec(&fRefCnt) == 1) delete this; } < 1380315326 374429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let the sages debate whether "delete this" should be allowed within a const method. < 1380315327 244356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell anothertest I consider both conventions completely logical, and have a hard time seeing how someone could consider one of them much more natural than the other. < 1380315327 389557 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380315366 595644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, like, decrementing the refcount certainly wouldn't be, but it's declared "mutable" < 1380315392 571096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess one needs the ability to retain and release objects by const pointer, but still, ewwwwwww < 1380315462 502860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why me and valgrind have a hate-hate-hate relationship: I'm completely lost when it comes to deleting stuff in C++. < 1380315510 466437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell After all, you either get a coset by left multiplication of a point by a subgroup, or by left multiplication of a subgroup by a point. < 1380315510 611715 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380315517 826073 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hee. < 1380315532 907766 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380315542 878162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a better way to clear that than /nick after < 1380315555 709146 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect delete this; is undefined behavior < 1380315561 411684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest After all, you either get a coset by left multiplication of a point by a subgroup, or by left multiplication of a subgroup by a point. < 1380315561 557016 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380315580 399807 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but probably of the undefined-behavior-that-always-works kind) < 1380315722 896669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: even in a non-virtual method which doesn't call any virtual methods or access any instance data after "delete this"? < 1380315736 197507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 6852657/86400/7 < 1380315737 684724 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11.33045138888889 < 1380315740 787107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might very well still be undefined, but I don't think it *has* to be < 1380315773 425190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what about it specifically? < 1380315809 463962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: either I leak inordinate amounts of memory, or I segfault trying to be over-eager freeing memory back. < 1380315821 563313 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't found the sweet spot of understanding what I'm doing. < 1380315856 777545 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, time to BBQ. or something. < 1380315861 409799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1380315863 538350 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380315892 52844 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pouleq < 1380315953 781041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just assume after will appreciate eir group theory lesson, if e ever logs on again. < 1380315962 507138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily C++ feels vastly more like a high level language if you use reference-counting smart pointers as much as possible < 1380315962 652304 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380315995 293208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lazy < 1380316013 617908 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Algebra? < 1380316020 929198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about algebra < 1380316037 911666 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are talking algebra? < 1380316049 893954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is < 1380316050 613688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: it happens. < 1380316146 710058 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it related to the topic? < 1380316171 533122 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the /topic? < 1380316179 268597 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is related to the /topic < 1380316231 387142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: boily is related to the topic. < 1380316239 901729 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: *reads wikipedia page on smart pointers* huh, I had no idea std::unique_ptr was a thing < 1380316243 389051 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really cool < 1380316256 6222 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :last episode of it crowd is good; things chris o'dowd can do to his own face are awful < 1380316261 213802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, boily is related to roujo < 1380316292 838346 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought he was related to sakhalin < 1380316301 278325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: no, it's just an old discussion that hadn't quite ended yet, so i and AnotherTest are sending lambdabot messages back and forth because we're not here at the same time. < 1380316350 642676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: and one of the big ideas in Rust is "what if we had something like unique_ptr, but the compiler actually enforces safe usage in every case" < 1380316364 430493 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is there a reason it's not safe? < 1380316389 1706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: briefly, it's about how mathematicians haven't argued which kind of coset should be called left and which should be called right, and i and AnotherTest don't agree on whether there is an obviously correct convention (i don't think there is). < 1380316390 532764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few reasons < 1380316396 874975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*haven't agreed < 1380316401 52157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can coerce it to a plain pointer / reference easily < 1380316416 487873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you would do this when you want to call a function and pass it the object without transferring ownership < 1380316426 118056 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380316428 777782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that function could stash away that raw pointer and use it after the object has been freed < 1380316436 153577 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: "it's c++, of course it's not safe!" < 1380316478 495610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, boily is related to pouti. < 1380316488 558003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ kinda-sorta tries to be memory safe using a combination of language features and convention < 1380316493 703790 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i thought it was just because you multiply(element,other-element) < 1380316499 584222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it totally falls over when people just treat it as "C with some extra junk" which is what they usually do < 1380316507 415303 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course i can never get cosets straight anyway ;_; < 1380316552 990823 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "so rust is like C with uniqueness types added" < 1380316571 511058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1380316580 831162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: another reason is that there's no mutability guarantee; you can uniquely own something and yet some function you call mutates it < 1380316604 1055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well the thing is, should the direction be decided by the side of the element or by the side of the other-element? < 1380316621 218225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Rust, the root of an ownership tree decides globally whether that tree of objects is mutable or immutable < 1380316645 956072 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380316646 898979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the root is either a local variable or a garbage-collected box) < 1380316652 138297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the element, since the other element is written related to a capital letter, whi ch is more improtant and central!! < 1380316672 22405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this issue in C++ (although I don't know that it really relates to unique pointers) where you modify a datastructure as you're iterating over it, and everything blows up < 1380316704 151243 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that makes sense though, insofar as terminology debates make sense < 1380316707 551594 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(god i say "insofar" a lot) < 1380316726 627646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust prevents this because the "give me an iterator" method, and the iterator struct, will "borrow" the datastructure as an immutable borrowed pointer, and nobody else can mutate something while an immutable borrowed pointer to it exists < 1380316736 614152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insofar sounds like the name of a city, or a company < 1380316737 766295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is enforced statically, except in the case of those GC'd boxes) < 1380316738 475274 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insofar Industries < 1380316740 923430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380316757 756442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i'll note that down for my cyborg ant production facilities shell corp < 1380316762 680933 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: sounds cool tho < 1380316764 693559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: AnotherTest thinks the opposite of you :) < 1380316775 688850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think neither is obviously correct. < 1380316777 759071 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well anothertest is wrong. i hope this solves the problem < 1380316801 503911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: excellent, now go fix peace in the middle-east. < 1380316801 682556 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i know how you'd verify that statically off the top of my head but that's probably just because i'm not thinking about it < 1380316825 506745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first you hire as many PL PhDs and grad students as you can < 1380316852 911065 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just put it in the types and ... infer stuff < 1380316864 770521 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have insufficient resources for this algorithm < 1380316892 727697 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is neat cause it's a new language designed by people who have actually been paying attention to programming languages research in the past 40 years < 1380316950 361163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this confuses some Haskellers who assume that anyone in that position would produce Haskell exactly < 1380316953 319343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1380316963 446475 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear haskell was set down from on high < 1380317067 451469 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc can you... not use rust as a vantage point from which to complain about haskellers < 1380317141 525738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't do it that much < 1380317159 725939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm annoyed at how many Haskellers look at Rust and find one thing they don't like and immediately declare it to be garbage < 1380317166 348661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as though Haskell is so perfect in comparison < 1380317189 781915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both cool languages trying to do difficult (and vastly different) things and they both have their share of flaws < 1380317215 223832 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure these things are true < 1380317248 807394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes perhaps I should not just bring this up when nobody is advancing this view < 1380317276 185749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH is so easily annoyed by me complaining about things ^__^ < 1380317290 999922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moe < 1380317332 298606 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs kmc
< 1380317361 396200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: *- by me complaining about things < 1380317388 507584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380317393 100410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs Fiora
< 1380317395 779253 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"PH is easily annoyed" < 1380317399 614709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1380317400 761777 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm annoyed by this hugging < 1380317413 142045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you annoyed by the damn kids who won't get off your lawn? < 1380317431 575711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH isn't old enough to have a lawn, or a cane to wave. < 1380317477 534265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am if they are hugging each other or complaining about haskellers < 1380317483 172647 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or both? < 1380317488 486646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, on the other hand, probably has several lawns and canes. < 1380317511 840670 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you start talking fizzie < 1380317522 295139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're married, that makes you like twenty years older < 1380317537 188944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i have a cane. maybe stored away somewhere. and i don't have my own lawn. < 1380317555 415502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a back yard but not a front lawn < 1380317567 957011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the front of my house consists of some stairs, and a tree which produces rain all the time, even when it is not raining < 1380317620 635395 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380317629 5356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :having your own lawn may be rare when you don't live on the ground floor. < 1380317639 913340 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is PH jealous he doesn't get a hug < 1380317650 535449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hug Phantom_Hoover < 1380317650 680590 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/newticket?type=bug < 1380317716 475117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have an "offering stone" in the yard-like thing between these two apartment buildings. < 1380317740 291166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that offering as in sacrifice? < 1380317743 282212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1380317747 967676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's so metal < 1380317755 720203 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the sacrifices were bits of grain, AIUI. < 1380317755 865607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you offered anything < 1380317760 762282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ofring" is norwegian for sacrifice. < 1380317760 973686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less metal < 1380317766 400478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unless they are steel-cut oats?) < 1380317776 811078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a stone with a barely noticeable groove in it. < 1380317781 601562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if i put some grass turf on my balcony < 1380317781 746743 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even sacrifice grain < 1380317783 233750 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, an oat cut up with steel? < 1380317790 205740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while offer is more often "tilbud". < 1380317794 546881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel-cut_oats < 1380317796 272906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380317820 286704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to make a thing that's like oatmeal but people will tell you it's so much better < 1380317852 809830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nba.fi/en/cultural_environment/archaeological_heritage/maintenance/maintained_sites/rapola/cupmarked_stones <- one of those except lot less obvious than what's in the picture. < 1380317861 958361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you complaining about pretentious middle class people kmc < 1380317869 819350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1380317879 413801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You put some grain on the stone, and I think then you're pretty much done. < 1380317881 422436 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, now i want a rock to offer blood to. < 1380317885 14652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fertility cults eh? < 1380317948 642298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ...can you go back and get it later < 1380317959 861169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I think that'd be bad form. < 1380317984 27554 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spirits usually come and grab food pretty fast, with their animal avatars < 1380317984 172764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm certainly no expert. < 1380317996 506441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe I should put some of my breakfast oatmeal on the stone just in case it'd help. < 1380318064 772445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1380318133 550850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reminded of this stone from the island my mother was from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:D%C3%B8nna_marble_phallus.jpg
< 1380318171 677678 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good filename < 1380318176 723666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380318190 844679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look much like a penis honestly < 1380318213 232624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "tilbud" in norwegian is quite confusing, over here "tillbud" usually means accident or some kind of threatening or dangerous event < 1380318225 799285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a joke in this somewhere < 1380318234 272474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :penis < 1380318234 979090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1380318242 595981 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it can also mean something like warning, correction or order) < 1380318282 831245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: huh < 1380318288 472438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, well it was better than that < 1380318324 757295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that was the only joke in there < 1380318363 633713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a joke in that too < 1380318365 364737 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :humorologist jim wazowski quoted a p-value of .0007 "that the joke was really just that shitty", according to sources < 1380318369 936484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i vaguely recall you're not the first person to think it doesn't look much like one. but i'm sure the tourist board violently disagrees. < 1380318395 410817 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should erect a sign laying out their argument, with pictures < 1380318438 264401 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this was back before widescreen, you understand" < 1380318458 489344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh heh heh, you said 'erect' < 1380318491 816088 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i regret this thing that i have started < 1380318503 225590 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't spell "rectangle" without having an erection. Wait, that's not how it goes. < 1380318510 25434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's the thing < 1380318518 52774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stone and sticking straight up, so one would interpret it as an erect penis < 1380318532 63669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the proportions would be quite unusual (though not totally outside phenotypic variation) < 1380318578 998285 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brilliant joke about which Bike was scoffing was that it would appear to be a disproportionately short one < 1380318591 161943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote You can't spell "rectangle" without having an erection. Wait, that's not how it goes. < 1380318591 307197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1380318591 307430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1380318591 307540 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1380318599 209082 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1109) You can't spell "rectangle" without having an erection. Wait, that's not how it goes. < 1380318601 372096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380318608 533896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there's some lag somewhere. < 1380318633 864705 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quotes < 1380318635 675431 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :463) combinatronics seems to be the mathematics chasing buddha's tail yeah.. he was a smart monkey that buddha < 1380318653 593603 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :never noticed that it was 'combinatronics' before < 1380318700 100410 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCD209.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1380318700 928172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand the buddha outsmarted monkeys. < 1380318775 857276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: YKINMK < 1380318811 759955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380318961 427973 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-liwzheygsxihwplw JOIN :#esoteric < 1380318982 32785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to Urban Dictionary that. < 1380319077 38747 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380319077 258496 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlqeswmunzicsed QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380319100 318192 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380319169 226353 :audioPhil_!~quassel@lak-73-77.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de NICK :audioPhil < 1380319175 790509 :audioPhil!~quassel@lak-73-77.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380319175 935722 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380319285 366370 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome audioPhil < 1380319288 879629 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06audioPhil07: Welcome to the i02nternat04ional hub for esot07eric programm12i10ng language d13e10sign and depl05oyment! For m04ore information, c10heck out our wiki: http://13esolangs.o11rg/09wiki/Mai06n_Page.02 (For 13the o09the12r04 kind o12f esoter09ica, try #esote13ric on 10irc.dal.n02et.) < 1380319335 91979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and now you know what it means! < 1380319341 537774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest underload to bf, has that been done yet? <-- yes, fungot's implementation used to be bf before fizzie wrote one directly in befunge. < 1380319341 683101 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380319341 828324 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it sounds like < 1380319354 569811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha 'combinatronics' < 1380319356 885267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss itidus < 1380319397 935698 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you scared him away! < 1380319407 619137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am told i scared him away also and i can believe that < 1380319443 489902 :audioPhil!~quassel@unaffiliated/audiophil1 PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1380319444 9048 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1380319452 217334 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380319482 60916 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what sounds like what? < 1380319482 419007 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not me. it's some other structure, are special in cl" helps me understand scheme better < 1380319561 361899 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muscles uses hexagonal tiling. neato. < 1380319647 487634 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexagonal tiling is the default if you squish a bunch of round things together... < 1380319648 272255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-11-12 doesn't show here :( <-- s/\/log\/// < 1380319655 230150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380319662 631843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-\/ < 1380319671 223599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins maniackally
< 1380319695 807927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, apparently it is now very easy to write Rust programs which don't use the runtime system http://ix.io/8fH < 1380319703 818212 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/\\\///? < 1380319709 219409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#[lang = "exchange_malloc"] says "this function implements the language feature of allocating ~-boxes" < 1380319723 191951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can provide such implementations just for the language features you use (here, no GC, no threads, etc) < 1380319729 876311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-11-12 doesn't show here :( <-- s/log\/// < 1380319730 21603 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380319760 283981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: RIGHT < 1380319824 469187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell AnotherTest In my defense, the bf version -- under fungot's time limits -- barely managed to run (foo)S. < 1380319824 614261 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380319824 786173 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what do you mean because of maclisp? i realized it at 4 am last night < 1380319874 218201 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380319889 559001 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool < 1380319912 611865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Someone on ##asm was trying to port https://github.com/charliesome/rustboot to x86-64. < 1380319920 443172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1380319929 550415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should port it to Rust 0.8 (released yesterday) and ditch zero.rs, first < 1380319941 318307 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(zero.rs was a workaround for the days when you had to implement *every* lang item) < 1380319973 383065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was the other day, so the querent is long gone, sadly. < 1380320020 691897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I made a rust/bare metal "joke" I'm not very proud of. < 1380320046 455817 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make a bear metal joke < 1380320054 457976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow "querent" is quite the word < 1380320236 289636 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380320247 822205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a queer word < 1380320253 697261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380320265 365273 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, zero.rs isn't needed anymore? < 1380320266 468218 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1380320289 177723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: apparently yes < 1380320290 224071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust, now abolishing zero < 1380320294 775891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just learning this in #rust < 1380320300 815263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is ##asm any fun? < 1380320317 736836 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mumbles about getting banned < 1380320322 67079 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380320333 704470 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, i read you there pretty often < 1380320346 902096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I might port one of my toy no-libc C programs to Rust < 1380320366 592179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what does it? < 1380320387 554452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it renders flame fractals and serves them from an embedded webserver < 1380320398 449933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :multithreaded renderer < 1380320404 145835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaugh < 1380320406 215518 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1380320409 964932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :parks and rec has gone too far < 1380320411 279852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it embeds its own machine code in the flame fractals in a cutesy way < 1380320416 418601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: too far = London? < 1380320422 757252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, rust 0.8 is already in the repos < 1380320432 503263 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, too far is reagan/thatcher roleplay < 1380320440 239178 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty far < 1380320440 863049 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is actually much smaller than 0.7, wow < 1380320448 473208 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it sexual roleplay... < 1380320451 958687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380320454 638680 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god. < 1380320488 976300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.8 was released yesterday < 1380320528 76046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also maybe I should write a not-ridiculous flame fractal renderer using Rust and GLSL < 1380320550 886964 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without libc < 1380320564 869404 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust without libc shouldn't be that hard < 1380320569 531833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my *other* weekend project that I also won't get around to doing this weekend is to build a public-key stream cipher based on Dual_EC_DRBG < 1380320579 439847 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. < 1380320583 47612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yeah they're telling me it's easy < 1380320630 999603 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you have an eye on how hard it is to make bindings for existing c libraries? < 1380320638 971795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little bit < 1380320643 805645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i had something to do with it was 0.5 < 1380320649 410798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy: http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/master/tutorial-ffi.html < 1380320649 816449 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was crappy back then < 1380320664 868806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my job involves a lot of bindings to C libraries but I haven't made one from scratch yet < 1380320668 966863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they are big, weird C libraries < 1380320701 753840 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380320719 90886 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm interested in termbox atm < 1380320726 522710 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be pretty straightforward < 1380320734 326726 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :biggest deal may be the struct < 1380320765 485197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's no way to import a struct definition to Rust :/ < 1380320768 365552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in the language itself I mean < 1380320774 571832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are bindings generators; I haven't used them < 1380320776 382878 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1380320788 629580 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to make an identical struct < 1380320839 56390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, wait are you going to make an electricsheep that works in 1080p < 1380320851 8837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in realtime yes < 1380320853 275154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of made one back in 2007 < 1380320855 786082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but failed to release it < 1380320869 585093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I'd say generally not. But then, they can't all be "#esoteric"s, you know? < 1380320871 709101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a 2007 graphics card could render decent looking flame fractals at 4096 x 4096 x 60fps < 1380320879 663669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very GPU-able algorithm < 1380320891 100301 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i will pay you* < 1380320897 610625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i will not pay you < 1380320920 838364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :frames per second, the third dimension < 1380320956 712471 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time is just another spatial dimension, maaaaaan. < 1380320968 304949 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so frequency must be one too,, like how spatial patterns are) < 1380321048 134400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1380321113 503231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits Bike with a metric signature
< 1380321139 202855 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hz? < 1380321214 690188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hertz? < 1380321216 597175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the time dimension has opposite sign to the space dimensions in the signature < 1380321266 787797 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it if it's a spatial dimension? < 1380321368 252642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF COURSE NOT < 1380321777 427446 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380321928 780430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your metric signature? < 1380321929 1184 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm an idiot"? why not just < 1380321951 573326 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380322345 773885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380323133 412241 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380323370 497769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's certainly no #esoteric so far < 1380323408 421343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "So far" is a reasonably representative sample. (But occasionally there are still interesting things.) < 1380323788 755203 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380323861 229026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insofar Industries: Representative samples for the masses < 1380323915 84238 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu logs still busted < 1380323932 148481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no they're not. < 1380323955 971984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok maybe the formatting i keep hearing about < 1380323968 127235 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1380324001 827436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the url complained about earlier was wrong, anyway :P < 1380324255 570669 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it wasn't, it was the URL to the formatted log < 1380324258 940125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1380324276 356653 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is true < 1380324863 43125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh! why is that in a different directory. < 1380324892 928419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because log/ is actually a CGI script, I think. < 1380324897 437460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1380324898 305770 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such. < 1380324925 592940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which script is broken. < 1380324927 351286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1380324950 184496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/log < 1380324951 425872 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ cd /var/irclogs/_esoteric \ if [ "$1" ]; then \ grep -P -i -- "$1" ????-??-??.txt | shuf -n 1 \ else \ file=$(shuf -en 1 ????-??-??.txt) \ echo "$file:$(shuf -n 1 $file)" \ fi < 1380324972 504908 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380324974 362731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls irclogs < 1380324976 674019 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access irclogs: No such file or directory < 1380324982 308108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /var/irclogs < 1380324984 246506 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :_ai \ _corewars \ _esoteric \ _esoteric-chess-variants \ _esoteric-minecraft \ _esoteric_shadow \ _\FRIends*foR*evEr\ \ _FRIends*foR*evEr \ _glogbot \ index.php \ log \ log.css \ log.js \ _plof \ raw \ _scapegoat \ stalker.php \ _weaaM < 1380325004 852214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l /var/irclogs/log < 1380325006 965713 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1380325011 733871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /var/irclogs/log < 1380325013 833112 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 0 15 Aug 20 2012 /var/irclogs/log -> ../html/log.php < 1380325054 752432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -l /var/html/log.php < 1380325057 152502 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/html/log.php: No such file or directory < 1380325078 325475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /var < 1380325080 114897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :irclogs < 1380325094 760542 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we have discovered the problem < 1380325096 588039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess maybe it only mounts the irclogs part < 1380325104 443722 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sux < 1380325105 417410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not shown in HackEgo < 1380325128 643994 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`mount < 1380325130 321992 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) \ none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sb < 1380325179 579666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mount | grep var < 1380325181 519629 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /var/irclogs type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/var/irclogs/) < 1380325194 472854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1380325277 402896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the url contains no part corresponding to the irclogs < 1380325296 848255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can probably not see it. < 1380325310 339606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/var/html, that is.) < 1380325343 520429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it's called. < 1380326382 845653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380326516 781483 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380326975 230718 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380328507 703256 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380329348 951372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some idea I have now to make HWPL (the older ones had some mistakes): http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/hwpl.txt < 1380329381 336578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't write about expressions and operators yet, and there are probably other things missing too. < 1380329395 356476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, on the outer-level statements, ROM-level statements, etc < 1380329490 587653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then, I suppose, a RAM statement for use in a module code to specify internal RAM. < 1380330221 728055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380330662 676887 :impomatic!~digital_w@200.79.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380330931 151988 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380330989 347195 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380331495 696609 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380332389 703102 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380332389 848604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1380332636 666554 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380332879 245814 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380333003 503893 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380333026 513704 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1380333346 155858 :OriginalOldMan!62e8625f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.232.98.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380335484 53445 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1380336342 256392 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380338214 315904 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380338228 148136 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380338235 166385 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380338360 61661 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380339110 652100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380339375 972331 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380339387 580293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops there was some connection error < 1380339491 361693 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi38 < 1380339500 747337 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a very good greeting. < 1380339526 165600 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yyo38 < 1380339764 796040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380339998 840881 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-liwzheygsxihwplw QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380340291 863997 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380343312 844026 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1380346011 363422 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380346036 508849 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1380346285 85512 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1380346734 500849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I made a script thing to save lm-sensors temperature data of this IRC box in a file, but turns out it's impressively boring: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130928-tmp.png < 1380347088 728264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130928-tmp2.png -- also including the non-coretemp sensors that I think have wrong resistor values; but they're not any more interesting either. < 1380348698 433094 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380348701 684718 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380349101 63333 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lvsxzeeiuoxejnld JOIN :#esoteric < 1380349997 223059 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380351528 322336 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380352210 963522 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380352213 283242 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This talk I'm watching just implied that compilability is an indicativeness of understandability < 1380352219 165390 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Tcl-loving self feels insulted < 1380352275 944655 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some sense compilability /is/ understandability, by a thing that isn't a human. I guess. < 1380352302 208560 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a thing that's not very good at math or hitting on people. < 1380352356 898062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop hitting people with no good purpose! < 1380352382 214670 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good advice < 1380352422 546153 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preposition is pretty important there, man. < 1380352461 92902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. hit -- (a connection made via the internet to another website; "WordNet gets many hits from users worldwide") -- I'm sure that example sentence was selected entirely at random. < 1380352515 118632 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whyd you look it up < 1380352540 51286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for funny uncommon meanings. < 1380352563 453226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, there was just the boring. < 1380352680 707416 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone tried TCL Robots? http://tclrobots.org < 1380352701 819040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not. < 1380352722 129136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"III. To aim, direct one's aim or course. -- 18. intr. To aim, seek, strive. Obs. rare -- (1380) Pearl l. 132 Þe wyȝ..Hittez to haue ay more & more." < 1380352726 589021 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380352773 918348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Spam with the subject line "He expertly blended together acoustic and electronic instruments" and the (entire) body text "Elevation lines are added to the plot to help delineate changes in elevation. In July 2000, UZT 1." < 1380352778 819246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder what purpose that serves. < 1380352798 836015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No MIME or HTML versions or anything. < 1380352825 652807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380352873 198588 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i see hwpl has primitive ram and muxes. < 1380352952 180703 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: that seems awefully like a million other games that I also have not played < 1380352965 278914 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1380352997 321123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: Yes, that is some things it has. Is that OK like the way it is? < 1380353090 806707 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm, i just wonder about it being primitive. it seems like something one could reasonably implement oneself. < 1380353093 369150 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380353098 275344 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or having a system with no ram, etc. < 1380353153 364818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe RAM doesn't need to be primitive, although FPGAs generally have primitive muxes so that is useful for at least that purpose it seems. < 1380353222 225638 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why limit yourself to fpgas right < 1380353234 613883 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't supposed to be limit to FPGAs. < 1380353249 902086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it is one possible use. < 1380353290 418030 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what i meant is i was waondering if those sorts of things could be library sorts of things. presumably a synthesizer could choose to implement such a library thing with a physical mux, or not, depending on available hardware, etc. < 1380353331 455191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, perhaps that can be right. That thing "depending on available hardware" is what the MODELS command is for, so yes I suppose it can be done. < 1380353833 500747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore you are probably correct. < 1380353953 918470 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... I haven't played any games apart from programming games / text adventures for about 15 years. Is there anything I ought to try? (apart from the obvious two, Minecraft and Dwarf Fortress) < 1380353974 935963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe the CGA Collection? I don't know. < 1380353996 132183 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGA collection? < 1380354026 566207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380354062 394013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGA Collection is a set of public domain DOS games including source-codes. < 1380354086 122205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Therefore you will need some way to run DOS programs on whatever computer you have) < 1380354096 21053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP < 1380354143 197281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380354851 519186 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downloaded, thanks < 1380355111 551477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work? Do you like this? < 1380356508 814065 :dan200!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380356845 863256 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :invariable < 1380357709 557781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380357770 387299 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380358304 494743 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380361307 687991 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380362292 748638 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380365395 495886 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380365605 610860 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380366722 215184 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I guess if we make a page that redirects to Recursion, we can make the "see also" recursion link to that page < 1380366722 398104 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380366996 857794 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380367653 309777 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380367813 696065 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380367882 15488 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380367937 576107 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380370710 817589 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380372070 311308 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380376730 911689 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help aaah < 1380376740 46761 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am no longer in Hexham < 1380376741 367827 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I repeat < 1380376745 366160 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am no longer in Hexham < 1380376753 333730 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380376764 994990 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: welcome to the real world < 1380376783 901877 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, well, I'm in York < 1380376786 848480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how to feed yourself? < 1380376807 290987 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1380376814 610824 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have loads of Italian biscuit-y things < 1380376826 53719 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a camera! < 1380376986 840623 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380376994 342075 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, you know more about this than I do, can I feed myself with them? < 1380377037 272611 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :biscuits will keep you going for a short while, I wouldn't recommend the camera < 1380377050 143002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :better to sell it and buy more biscuits < 1380377146 350736 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are the biscuits: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1266812_579131395456452_1244635056_o.jpg < 1380377261 714469 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware that the box is deceptively big - most of it is air, not food < 1380377271 34324 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no! < 1380377279 642720 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, I took that picture with my camera < 1380377378 996603 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Taneb < 1380377387 2228 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello reynir < 1380377426 889504 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you've seen, the camera can be useful to gain information about everyday objects through the internet < 1380377457 311095 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, in that case I will keep it and use it to help identify potential food < 1380377542 660637 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make a web service where you upload a photo and people will vote on wether it's food or not < 1380377885 704929 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380379165 453404 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1380379239 253310 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380380911 870795 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380382319 668251 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1380382377 456778 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380382407 508212 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1380382446 206097 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380382675 835256 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380383362 545594 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380384104 325625 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380384616 397759 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am not the first person in my flat to get locked out < 1380385488 390889 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you'll be the second < 1380385536 5735 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only time will tell < 1380385543 975957 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got locked out *in* your flat? < 1380385568 819962 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1380385568 965854 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 18h 17m 18s ago: http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2012-11-12 doesn't show here :( <-- s/log\/// < 1380385594 156211 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's s/\/log\/// < 1380385625 53276 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait no < 1380385822 879254 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, the flat has locked rooms < 1380385829 410281 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1380387661 565846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380388157 756560 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380389352 776829 :invariable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1380389988 823587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a guy who used Mosh to escape from a broken elevator and blogged about it < 1380390735 610089 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380390826 641411 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380390836 567838 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that a pun or a fact? < 1380390894 126846 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a fact, I read the blog post < 1380390909 829218 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Mosh would have helped in this situation < 1380390958 800314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would the pun be? < 1380391071 376225 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.64 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380391365 609198 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380392061 275903 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a co�p down the road from my new flat < 1380392063 833032 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel socialist < 1380392194 420670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a chicken coöp? < 1380392215 9182 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget every time you have seen boily use the diaeresis please < 1380392240 714025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :diæretic ænema < 1380392279 651762 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean this co�p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Co-operative_Group) < 1380392420 957745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since we managed to beat the demon without too much difficulty (due to many stupid mistakes they made), I suggested to the DM something, the demon's brain is cursed and now my character is cursed and cannot automatically heal (so spells have to be used), and a few other things (the curse can still be removed normally, but then I hungry again), and furthermore they will resurrect the demon and we have to beat them a second time... Do you like this? < 1380392435 189227 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380392640 322436 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have other ideas? < 1380392688 732321 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the demon turns out to be the demon's brain's father < 1380392721 995062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently in addition to hating street musicians Charles Babbage also hated kids who play with hoops in the street http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoop_rolling#British_Empire < 1380392735 846869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.harkavagrant.com/?id=5 < 1380392743 788441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a bastard < 1380392748 779399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a prototypical haskeller < 1380392780 585960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK, if the demon turns out to be the demon's brain's father, well it doesn't seem to make a difference < 1380392796 192490 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe you know otherwise) < 1380392798 704704 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what if it made a difference < 1380392806 452603 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of difference? < 1380392820 583063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ethical one < 1380392845 565207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1380392853 763120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see an ethical difference either. < 1380392870 615653 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the demon was charles babbage < 1380392939 956769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they aren't. < 1380392963 999678 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1380392965 638859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1380393096 945251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'He once counted all the broken panes of glass of a factory, publishing in 1857 a "Table of the Relative Frequency of the Causes of Breakage of Plate Glass Windows": Of 464 broken panes, 14 were caused by "drunken men, women or boys"' < 1380393200 691415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO from HANKO. < 1380393210 352179 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELO < 1380393214 334735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHLO < 1380393223 432016 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the table of causes of breakage http://i.imgur.com/OsoIsI6.png < 1380393239 416506 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah shit < 1380393241 26513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only assume that HANKO is a piece of IKEA furniture that fizzie is now trapped inside < 1380393263 484437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's probably the southernmost city in Finland. < 1380393286 357133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, perhaps not. But close, anyway. < 1380393296 832307 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as we know, "city in Finland" is code for IKEA furniture. < 1380393334 587392 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 3 optional modules: automata and formal languages; further automata and formal languages; and algorithmic graph theory < 1380393369 227471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's in HANKO < 1380393375 98877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also help why are we capitalizing it) < 1380393409 683419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there is a ferry to Hiiumaa and whether that is a nice place to go or not < 1380393413 22133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Southernmost tip of continental Finland, says Wikipedia. < 1380393429 440616 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380393430 265699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sound amazing but last time i tried any non core maths modules it ended in disaster < 1380393450 868330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :look around you, just look around you, have you worked out what we're looking for? it's automata! < 1380393517 294578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My father's been sailing around Hiiumaa, I think. (Well, it's kind of a logical place to stop at when going round Finland-Estonia-Sweden-Åland-Finland.) < 1380393584 469586 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, from Rohuk�la IIRC; and at least K�rdla is a very nice town. < 1380393601 862482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice long sailing trip < 1380393612 899514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the water calm up there or no? < 1380393627 869630 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm? = does not have waves? < 1380393636 678491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not as choppy as proper oceans, I believe. < 1380393648 521464 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :choppy = has big waves? < 1380393672 8401 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380393681 219400 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are certainly even strong storms now and then, I guess generally you just keep track of the current forecast and stay a few extra days if it looks too bad. < 1380393685 169619 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :with normal wind the wave height is around 1,5m < 1380393779 166877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Turku Archipelago is I think kind of impressive as far as "lots of small islands" things go. < 1380393794 12441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :20000 islands, says Google. < 1380393809 738819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks very spotty on a map. < 1380394297 716325 :Taneb!~androirc@nas103-200.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1380394341 722154 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380394557 44846 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380394797 867025 :atriq!~androirc@nas157-148.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1380394912 194319 :Taneb!~androirc@nas103-200.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380395163 821403 :atriq!~androirc@nas157-148.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380398405 737882 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380398933 117122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380399691 844395 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380400129 669307 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380400585 381839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They really draw too many cards; I have 27 remaining in draw pile and they have zero. < 1380400587 183104 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380400592 772787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This happens really often. < 1380400828 388190 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380401287 896412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the recent spate of dead links has made me wonder: if esolangs.org is the only thing linking to an external page, and as it uses the nofollow attribute, will the web archive archive it at all? < 1380401300 139994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380401300 285238 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_ said 9h 36m 17s ago: I guess if we make a page that redirects to Recursion, we can make the "see also" recursion link to that page < 1380401342 150900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ the problem is, that's mutual recursion, which is a different joke. < 1380401342 334108 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380401372 936159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait... < 1380401396 974118 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380401448 860448 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in archive.org? < 1380401455 393179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380401492 942002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what made me wonder about it is that the most recent dead link has only been crawled once, today, and i suspect that was because Rdebath checked if it was there. < 1380401593 175779 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does wayback machine's bot even care about nofollow, i thought it was for spammers < 1380401615 11321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...spammers don't care, do they. < 1380401632 909036 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even spammers gotta respect The Rules < 1380401660 532630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, nofollow keeps links from influencing google results, so spamers have no reason to spam links. < 1380401711 954966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd discuss this more but the neighbor has left their dog alone at home and the barking is making by brain shut down. < 1380401723 89074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, for one thing Google isn't the only one, and mirrors may not have nofollow < 1380401827 213011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the dog happens to only bark when i'm considering discussing something that requires my brain working. i blame demons. < 1380401852 19168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe poltergeists. < 1380401950 11886 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I must have food, or I'll die" < 1380401959 901645 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there someone who this isn't true of? < 1380401970 854481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried watching the stars this evening. i think this part of the city has more light pollution than where i used to live. < 1380401974 687132 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Breatharians < 1380401988 126593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, there is reports of such things; I don't know how valid they are although at least some of them aren't valid. < 1380402001 923557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you consider water and/or carbon dioxide food, then no. < 1380402050 960740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i guess even plants need additional things like phosphorus. < 1380402096 496074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: obvious answer, anything that wasn't alive to start with. < 1380402297 292601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What's with this acting < 1380402301 835383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Home on the Remains) < 1380402312 612338 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember < 1380402317 903894 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo that episode was another dud < 1380402323 321371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it supposed to be deliberate, because thats just how these aliens talk? < 1380402330 367721 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, i don't remember < 1380402334 471291 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's farscape, so it's likely < 1380402645 511720 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next episode is also weird and not very interesting, and the episode after is very good < 1380403434 661990 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the good episodes are the one where zan shows up again as the bad guy in the psycho game, and the one where john is crazy and acting like cartoons < 1380403661 158974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the 4th season you idiot < 1380403672 467299 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo's on the second < 1380403683 340371 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case the best episodes are like half of them < 1380403913 982235 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which episode is it where the warrior guy survives deep space without a pressure suit for like a minute without dying? is that the first one? < 1380404100 654732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen that ep < 1380404107 890452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's early in the first season < 1380404117 16569 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First season, it's the one where Moya gets pregnant iirc < 1380404127 207321 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380404145 663328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Zhaan can be scary < 1380404168 4568 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a dick < 1380404176 481937 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(have you seen the way we weren't) < 1380404228 457606 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-134-3-130-100.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380404308 330043 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380404322 330257 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.usenix.org/conference/woot13/page-fault-weird-machine-lessons-instruction-less-computation < 1380404326 993373 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380404340 39114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was more focused on Aeryn < 1380404349 496719 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember what Zhaan did in that episode < 1380404386 101090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well she was all "god aeryn you really are a shit" (despite helping cut pilot's arm off a season earlier) < 1380404553 644887 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is she (the zhaan actress) the only one who shows up at conventions? < 1380404634 324245 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380404730 129728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, ask her < 1380404738 655481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear the story about her kidneys < 1380404798 344363 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read about it, and now I'm spoiled < 1380404833 213352 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've told you it in a less-spoiling way! < 1380404918 60728 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me, though i've watched the whole thing, because i've forgotten most of it < 1380405000 740007 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well she had some reaction to all the blue bodypaint, and it ended up making her kidneys bleed < 1380405042 235823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever. < 1380405059 560279 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard it was affecting her skin as well < 1380405072 811558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, bleeding kidneys is a good reason to leave the show < 1380405083 186722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :every report i've heard has placed emphasis upon the kidneys < 1380405099 958106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did she start replacing nouns and verbs by a single word? < 1380405108 593064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380405159 390216 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what xyzzy xyzzy xyzzy would xyzzy? < 1380405474 113821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: modulo still using correct grammar, mind < 1380405519 569349 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was < 1380405522 565246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380405577 44034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am afraid my xyzzy is a bit rusty. < 1380405630 621664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it you only speak marklar < 1380406892 912565 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380407308 304909 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380407895 710888 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380408194 752836 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380409195 208592 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380409626 515490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please summarize < 1380409626 841782 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: she's working for the same reason that i may never know < 1380409636 416922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good summary. < 1380409714 819216 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if fungot may never know I shall never know either < 1380409715 57228 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i cannot disagree, but so does < 1380409726 407849 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? < 1380410006 736127 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380410042 533943 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.40 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380410377 266586 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell's fungot that I don't? < 1380410377 606325 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i was trying to get you even high enough not to erase fnord text? < 1380410387 5938 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380410389 651258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1380410415 91701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: something something kmc < 1380410415 371554 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ( writes stallings) to procedure, got 2 < 1380410418 623960 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does fungot not do? < 1380410419 127163 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: of course, the define is also wrong :) there's probably an opengl antialiasing feature i should use plt modules for that in 2.5! < 1380410431 20427 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1380410480 552378 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :more fungot? < 1380410481 96033 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: to use the char for naming " combinations" at http://paste.lisp.org/ display/ fnord ( to which you copy previously executed code. probably one of my fnord nick. maybe i'll ask later. < 1380410507 481809 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went downhill from the summary, I think < 1380410524 150469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: he doesn't give us up, he doesn't let us down, he doesn't run around and desert us. < 1380410542 447161 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot a he? < 1380410543 62567 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: where build-hierarchy is the macro system will make it unrealistic to adapt to pre-osx. i finally found the one. read it not long after it isn't true the site is crap < 1380410558 907837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: on alternate sundays. < 1380410589 503038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in hebrew. < 1380410597 632246 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently fungot "finally found the one", so I'm happy for 'em either way < 1380410598 36478 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i was just repeating commonly heard phrases over here? anybody still alive? does he mean by the general form of capitalization. < 1380410641 854770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt fungot admits to using cliches < 1380410642 168976 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the lecture vids are outdated but nice to see t on other architectures. good maintainer :) < 1380410671 790813 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's your opinion of the Baha Men? < 1380410672 79290 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: beauty is in the c faq is stupidly inefficient then. :) < 1380410751 590220 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380410808 630188 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380410935 144117 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1380411038 669050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380411589 507208 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need more concatenative languages < 1380411614 237990 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380411801 708012 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380411888 835458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly concatenative languages should form a monoid. < 1380411930 214855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make some. < 1380412226 9357 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey has one or two < 1380412260 325177 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, do you mean the set of concatenative languages should form a monoid? or every concatenative language should form a monoid? < 1380412301 398916 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately concatenativety + higher level functions means you have to do quoting < 1380412314 22623 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you don't have to do with something like Haskell < 1380413118 544151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: the former. the latter is automatic. < 1380413161 200083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lambdas are sort of quoting for this purpose. < 1380413800 564558 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380414100 269465 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380414114 72848 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah but you can use partial application to avoid lambdas < 1380414177 492929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :need parentheses though < 1380414286 101641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although either jot or iota manages to have just one function and left to right application give all of ski. < 1380414383 779941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait no. < 1380414465 988613 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map id [1,2,3] < 1380414466 962480 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1380414469 258182 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No parentheses thre < 1380414472 861994 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there* < 1380414488 611651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jot is close except it's reverse application. < 1380414613 408576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably some set of combinators that would allow it though. < 1380414715 896620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also not just one function _and_ no parentheses, that was definitely a brain fart.) < 1380414758 938200 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380414770 597397 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380417188 740340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see this yet http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24232896 < 1380417212 382333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a bit lagged on his reddit catchup.
< 1380417361 905787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's about the first carbon nanotube computer.) < 1380417381 795045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a little bit strapped for memory. < 1380417591 182969 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380417812 581658 :nooodl_!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380417933 711540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to embed ATLAST into a program but it doesn't seems to work; I get the error "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way. Please contact the application's support team for more information." < 1380417938 727498 :nooodl_!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1380418023 181994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what this message is? < 1380418033 355176 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380418079 645826 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it needs to be deinitialized properly? < 1380418091 154482 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380418288 910066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I see no documentation about deinitialization. < 1380418567 999080 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see no documentation < 1380418584 576599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example doesn't include any deinitialization. < 1380418609 380126 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know wha ATLAST is < 1380418628 300698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Ultra Pattern Recognition: Sliced Pineapple: Small Umbrella Version:: | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | the boily at the end of all things < 1380418631 600423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a Forth-like system for embedding into another program. < 1380418744 114311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why this colonialism? < 1380418775 38474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1380418786 19133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the topic < 1380418829 55515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slaves to Armok: God of Blood: Chapter II: Dwarf fortress < 1380418906 259191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the double ending < 1380418923 188265 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380418936 998938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to make a programming language for text adventure games that compiles into Frolg assembly language (including support for embedding arbitrary assembly language codes, even macros), and with some other optimizations too, which other Z-machine compilers lack. I try to think of what it should be done with! Things I try don't work for some reasons. < 1380418997 342363 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ideas? < 1380419158 583240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"named after a deity in dragslay, himself named for a variable named "arm_ok" that counted the number of limbs the player still had attached" < 1380419241 687228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume the deity was good at decrementing that < 1380419344 826863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Decrementing? Won't it possibly be better to keep track of which ones using a bit field (unless you have a bunch of all same limbs without sides and stuff like that, I suppose)? < 1380419433 412033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1nbna6/oh_hai_mark_greg_sestero_mark_from_the_room_here/ < 1380419518 70519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :armok, bit twiddling your arms < 1380419553 350589 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380420072 513208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :limbs ^= 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF; < 1380420129 133034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i think that is a trick hindu gods like to use on themselves. < 1380420665 890519 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Write the compiler for the language in haskell? < 1380420675 235309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :limbs >>= 6; < 1380420685 940868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what? < 1380420698 642960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh *reads further up* < 1380420700 873267 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: playing with GMP? < 1380420705 639566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380420711 688607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I ought to < 1380420712 63716 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1380420722 107522 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are these limbs of which you speak then? < 1380420868 303513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could tell you, but it cost you an arm and a leg. < 1380420873 523719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+would < 1380421141 813790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I get it "*colon*ialism" < 1380421520 283884 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that costs aleg? that's alot < 1380421599 478358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i suggest daily brain stretching < 1380421637 861492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: That was in fact one of my ideas; actually, making a Haskell EDSL. However even then there are a few problems (which perhaps can be worked around, though): one is the slowness of a Haskell compiler/program, another is the syntax (although it can be worked around by creating a preprocessor), one is the inconvenience of declaring unique keys (the only way I know is Typeable, and having to declare a type and instance for each one can be inco < 1380421700 286700 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Rather than making it an EDSL, you can make it a full-fledged language < 1380421858 540732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Sure, but then I would need to implement nearly everything, and it could be done just as well in C too; I was going to embed ATLAST but not only does it not work but also seems a bit too klugy. < 1380421891 590364 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Haskell has very good parser combinators and such though < 1380421908 182030 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380421917 447586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was also going to try to make it based on LYSP (a Lisp implementation), although that isn't designed to embed and it is difficult to work with a Lisp system. < 1380421937 94362 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1380421974 691885 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Haskell has nice LLVM bindings < 1380421998 368044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: O, I know those things. Still, basing it on such programmable systems can provide macro capabilities more easily, too. < 1380422029 500985 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380422045 36108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I have seen those (although have never used them), but it isn't relevant here; I am not trying to compile into LLVM. I am compiling into Frolg assembly language, which in turn compiles into Z-machine code. < 1380422047 403132 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380422082 562582 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380422265 707903 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380422269 626461 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, not native code < 1380422549 246407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the native codes are REST-less < 1380422854 58847 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone else done text-adventure systems with Haskell? (whether it is native code or not) < 1380423016 888680 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has < 1380423022 997675 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@package ZMachine < 1380423023 142851 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/ZMachine < 1380423143 116843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an interpreter; not a compiler though. < 1380423182 802008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It also may be defective; most Z-machine interpreters are.) < 1380423243 915337 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. well, just take the dual, as they say. < 1380423304 165999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing that won't work here; I was looking to see if anyone had text-adventure authoring systems in Haskell (whether EDSL or not, native or not), so that I may learn how it is done. < 1380423675 233138 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380424501 351797 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See http://ifwiki.org/index.php/Z-machine_Hacks for some mention of some of the kind of optimizations and tricks which could be performed. < 1380425353 470847 :ssue__!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgwmlxeibscjinhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380425669 153880 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380425734 138583 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380426203 711197 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380426793 913728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380428773 804003 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380429864 586882 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380429890 475781 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380430233 392430 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380430309 779526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1380430323 516487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think fungot was just trying to figure out whether a semigroup was a monoid. < 1380430323 985768 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: who's viktor yushchenko? right?). compare the ambition with what guile is today. < 1380430331 722459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf. < 1380430336 701336 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hike < 1380430395 935393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semigroups aren't very strong < 1380430423 566841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ("finally found the one") < 1380432497 206556 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfvoufoclvrejesa JOIN :#esoteric < 1380432507 290688 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A game that I liked when I was younger (but wouldn't bother with now, it's just a version of breakout) apparently is by a company that is focused on "games for Christians" < 1380432507 752898 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tcrf.net/Blast_Thru < 1380432518 354620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And was originally called Bibleball < 1380432519 892121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1380432536 189450 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a Christian pinball game once. < 1380432563 751771 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still can't find a list of powerups < 1380432585 701320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bibleballs < 1380432710 429882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. painful condition < 1380432726 486799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won a game of Pokemon Card while I had only two cards remaining in my draw pile and opponent has zero (I also picked up my last side card on the same turn). < 1380432808 210375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hay! Why is his name written entirely hiragana on one screen, but on this screen it is partially in kanakana and partially in hiragana? < 1380432831 362430 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whose name? < 1380432838 554082 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Christian pinball game? < 1380432841 933456 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOBICHAN < 1380432884 440061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes I made one once in Visual Pinball, although it is an old version and only works in Windows (the game itself is open-source although Visual Pinball itself is MAME license) < 1380432897 383358 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what way was it Christian? < 1380432924 916390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly the labels on everything. < 1380432958 272155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both the labels and some of the rules were suggested by a catechism teacher, and then I implemented it and put in a few other things to improve it. < 1380433082 716341 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ball saver is labeled "Forgiveness", the outlanes are labeled "Sacrifice", the bumpers are labeled "Bible", "Mass", "Prayer", "Eucharist", and "Pennance", the extra ball light is labeled "Resurrection", the drop target banks are labeled "Advent", "Christmas", "Lent", and "Easter", and there are rollover targets in the form of the sign of the cross. < 1380433385 372158 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a mode display to tell you how many times each bumper and sign of cross has to be hit to advance. Once it is done, the next drop target bank is available; the drop targets won't drop unless the bank is the active mode. Once all banks are dropped, you get an extra ball. < 1380433449 828593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it because someone else made a pagan pinball game; therefore I should make the Christian pinball game too. < 1380433473 571228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then someone else suggested, if we have pagan and Christian, then perhaps there should also be the Zen pinball game, and that one would be flipperless. < 1380433857 188329 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380434417 959285 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380435181 966781 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone once used the lack of Christ's second coming as an argument for the existence of other sapient life in the other solar systems. < 1380435380 977713 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380435510 588118 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380435591 711107 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bruno? < 1380435617 251586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1380435673 639195 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380436389 590445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about catechism of Catholic church in a few different books. They say that atheism is a mortal sin, but then mortal sin is defined. There are a few variations in how it is presented, but using the three points in Wikipedia, atheism fails the second condition therefore it isn't a mortal sin, and that is contradictory! < 1380436454 154474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It must be committed with full knowledge, both of the sin and of the gravity of the offense (no one is considered ignorant of the principles of the moral law, which are inborn as part of human knowledge, but these principles can be misunderstood in a particular context)" < 1380436458 113597 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one? < 1380436471 874722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, organized religion is almost always inconsistent < 1380436478 139941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that one. < 1380436500 671072 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think atheism fails that, assuming you mean the looked-at-religion-and-said-nah kind of atheism < 1380436511 874318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I am not sure that the parenthetical comment there is correct, but I will consider it irrelevant for now) < 1380436556 738376 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It does; another part of the Catholic catechism says you cannot believe unless you really do believe; being forced to believe if you don't actually believe it is worthless. < 1380436590 963863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean most atheists are pretty aware that if Catholics or whoever are right and the atheist is wrong, the atheist is goin to hell. < 1380436637 99299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: makes life extra hard for inquisitors < 1380436853 597503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not necessarily, and anyways that doesn't make it right. (Furthermore, if you throw dice, it comes up even, and you have to say if it is even or odd, but they say they will cut your arm off if you say it is even, that doesn't make it odd.) < 1380436876 553309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have absolutely no idea what you are saying and it rules < 1380436961 352604 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also Pascal's wager (which is that believing in God is a good bet) and the atheist's wager (the reverse); my opinion is that both are invalid. (Also, these wagers won't make you believe or not, but that isn't relevant to their validity.) < 1380437044 842855 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380437208 594221 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380437220 81494 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380437264 330419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I am not atheist; I am panendeist (and these beliefs have nothing to do with the wagers). However, I do not believe atheism to be a sin. I am also ignostic, so that doesn't make atheism necessarily wrong either; it is OK to be atheist if you want to, but please consider it correctly. < 1380437291 269347 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if considering it correctly is a sin < 1380437372 191436 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380437374 46697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't think so. Whether you believe in God or not, you should think of it for yourself. < 1380437389 655841 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380437389 801172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Either way is OK, as far as I am concerned.) < 1380437585 201974 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380437595 858508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Catholic church also calls agnosticism a mortal sin. That certainly does not meet the second condition, though. < 1380437679 834751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some cases it might not even meet the third condition. < 1380438470 568055 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380440268 188500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380440320 528373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you make a poll in here in case you are atheist, panendeist, or whatever? < 1380440341 436365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :See how common it is in esoteric programming. < 1380440349 722714 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be a pandatheist < 1380440353 145513 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe in pandas < 1380440402 332301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hugs < 1380440403 119952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think that counts??? < 1380440453 179289 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Did you read _The Little Prince_? < 1380440535 415188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I haven't heard of it < 1380440556 618900 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? It's one of the most famous books. < 1380440589 500988 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that. < 1380440615 500666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, one of the best-selling, at least. < 1380440649 248741 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books says so. < 1380440657 779115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1380440778 340510 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, zzo38, have either of you read House of Leaves? < 1380440789 680415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not. < 1380440808 129363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have n't. < 1380440847 479149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe in a thing called love < 1380440861 160783 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is good < 1380440870 261741 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very interesting read < 1380440906 697589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're called leaves because they leave the trees in the fall. Which is why it's called fall. < 1380441019 829668 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can you build a house out of them? < 1380441640 194548 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380442436 666349 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380442614 104544 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380443969 464760 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a good algorithm for deciding the minimum nodes to remove from a graph such that it does not contain a certain graph as a subgraph? < 1380444008 229516 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly specialized to a connected region of a grid < 1380444595 624432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know any such algorithm. What are you using this for? I would be interested to know such algorithm too. < 1380444672 930113 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I am using it for a battleships AI < 1380446284 743466 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380446449 848891 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much science fiction on that list of books. < 1380446539 169729 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380446819 975438 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyjdibkxngzrlxav QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380447050 978409 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what would that algorithm even be called < 1380447071 705439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that either. < 1380447155 325307 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.7 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought of a way of doing it, but it relies on the subgraph isomorphism problem < 1380447192 959717 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380447651 646364 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet that algorithm is at the very least NP-complete, if not outside of NP < 1380447973 710801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380448131 450460 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is outside of NP. < 1380448131 880083 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: don't think this can be extremely helpful in debugging complex macros, but i think that extremes in this area < 1380448375 615037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380448457 685236 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380450306 385097 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz... < 1380459873 137147 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380460431 43011 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380460496 234302 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380461186 589027 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dlilttkqeottzvjt JOIN :#esoteric < 1380461224 259456 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqnctigwjddugmu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380461225 665311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome AwfulProgrammer < 1380461231 501473 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :AwfulProgrammer: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380461236 394715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Ghoul__ < 1380461238 646836 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ghoul__: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380461857 826785 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380461886 946334 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1380462375 692683 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380462913 999140 :wuhg1!~whg@117.136.1.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380462970 56107 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380463133 180260 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380463499 74317 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380463551 596164 :wuhg1!~whg@117.136.1.142 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380463555 612034 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380464797 714372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380466640 419531 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380466779 519360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I got the reverse DLL imports working on Windows < 1380466805 8507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less flexible than in Linux; the difference is that on Windows, if you're importing a symbol, you need to know which executable or library you're importing it from < 1380466816 410591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas on Linux, you just have dependencies and imported symbols and there doesn't need to be a correlation < 1380466871 728703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the technique I used is simpler than either yours or the one recommended by Microsoft: I just create an import library directly from each set of object files (which doesn't require their dependencies to be in place), followed by creating libraries/executables from the object files, linking against the import ibraries < 1380466876 308307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*libraries < 1380468579 748438 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380469102 729929 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380469301 24787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"checking how to print strings... printf" < 1380469312 643508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm scared as to why configure even thought of checking that < 1380469318 619845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what result it expected to find < 1380469332 993294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it might be shell printf rather than C printf, that'd be a little snaer < 1380469334 749445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*saner < 1380469342 227680 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380469373 410183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"checking how to print strings... print -r" says Google, so that sounds likely. < 1380469612 745416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm compiling SDL2 from source < 1380469627 565476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not packaged yet < 1380469778 504222 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dropped my glasses this afternoon and they bent and actually fit better now < 1380469932 905302 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm tempted to start a "Taneb's crazy maths facts" blog < 1380469938 588390 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Need a short name for it < 1380470027 82166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom Hoover's crazy maths facts < 1380470073 839595 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah < 1380470094 105224 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think I've just registered mathsfacts.tumblr.com < 1380470124 138119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: because all the porn names were taken? < 1380470147 524967 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380470189 288179 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, what does it MEAN < 1380470216 800501 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO KNOWS < 1380470265 735761 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew a guy who does a maths facts blo < 1380470266 899432 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1380470274 409511 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could crib some facts off him < 1380470285 910594 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I've got the first three or so sorted < 1380470360 824879 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they < 1380470377 203752 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoilers < 1380470382 427008 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait for me to upload them < 1380470384 346421 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One by one < 1380470402 746698 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380470494 483235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1380470496 817272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, and Go. < 1380470516 953416 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am quite prolific, it seems < 1380470531 109493 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to be talking about the torus in maybe the fourth or fifth post < 1380470543 759298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what made you think of inventing an automatic squirrel feeder? < 1380470559 329433 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the first three are D-modules, Go and automatic squirrel feeder math? < 1380470560 22045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… at my secondary school, there used to be a squirrel that lived inside the ceiling of the Library < 1380470572 667801 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh what the fuck, chrome removed the 'previously closed tabs' button? < 1380470580 705830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sunbathed under the fluorescent light-bulbs from time to time < 1380470590 46990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :all so i could have a google search bar on the new tab page < 1380470604 4673 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, to go with the one that doubles for an address bar < 1380470606 909547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person in charge of the building used to catch it with traps baited with Bounty bars and release it in the nearby forest < 1380470611 112206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it tended to find its way back < 1380470647 330592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I live quite close to the edge of Birmingham, and the school I went to was even closer; you could find fields with cows in within a minute's walk from it) < 1380470667 989340 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a time when google weren't pissing away all their goodwill trying to build a social media empire < 1380470745 463080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380470784 752794 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, STILL NO FACTS < 1380470796 323936 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I'M MAKING CUTE LITTLE GRAPHICS < 1380470806 86137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAPHICS < FACTS < 1380470814 779619 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAPHICS + FACTS > FACTS < 1380470824 875585 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAPHICS > 0 < 1380470829 162925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :THUS FAR THERE IS NEITHER < 1380470839 72105 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAIT < 1380470844 347636 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE PATIENT MY CHILD < 1380471440 906317 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm older than you you idiot < 1380471851 581593 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1380472311 234150 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380472492 271882 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380473206 707937 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: previously closed tabs are in the menu now < 1380473214 748046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use Ctrl+Shift+T < 1380473391 174630 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380473401 569188 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380473773 345873 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what if i don't want the last one i closed... < 1380474690 585347 :nooodl_!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380474870 132205 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380474888 590751 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380474890 504061 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380474892 98851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think would be better address bar, that URLs entered are treated as relative by default; other commands entered there (such as search) start with a colon (no separate search bar is needed), and starting with :/ can abbreviate for file:/// < 1380474903 309439 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380474951 944671 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: normally if I want to open an HTML file on my own filesystem, I give it as an argument to the web browser < 1380474957 455815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And on Windows you can use a single letter and : to automatically expand to a file: URL, since no URI schemes have just one letter, I think; even if it is, using a letter and :\ can unambiguate it) < 1380474961 35280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than entering it in the address bar < 1380474970 680073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless I'm using it often enough that it's worth bookmarking < 1380474972 595228 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but maybe it is already open < 1380474978 155774 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1380474987 64779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, my homepage on Epiphany is /tmp/t.html < 1380475001 347264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the name I use for temporary HTML files that I've just generated from some other source < 1380475023 705639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I use too many different browsers, probably) < 1380475046 786324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use about:blank as the homepage < 1380476158 717029 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380476249 923905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the embeding programming language, well although ATLAST doesn't work I know that Pico-C works since I have used it before, so I can use that < 1380476251 590461 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380476847 754493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/huge/ advantage for darcs over git: "darcs recor" is accepted, "git commi" isn't < 1380476987 85406 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't like git commies around here < 1380477008 656058 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on the IWC forum for the first time inaaaaages < 1380477102 490212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :inaaaaages isn't here Taneb < 1380477380 507820 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh sorry, wrong channel < 1380478073 360017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this train has a sign which says "PLEASE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THESE SIGNS" < 1380478104 527079 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTIMATELY FAMILIAR < 1380478110 415172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :carnally < 1380478180 497278 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there's something similar on the trains in the UK < 1380478202 207112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to put stickers of cthulhu symbols and such on it < 1380478246 868612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can you understand to become familiar with the sign that says "PLEASE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THESE SIGNS" if you don't know how to read English signs? < 1380478271 603464 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could ask someone to translate < 1380478282 979234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all the signage on Caltrain is in English only < 1380478285 244217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some Spanish < 1380478300 171541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VTA (Silicon Valley) light rail and buses have English, Spanish, and Vietnamese < 1380478324 31196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, another git gripe: the command for staging a new file is the same command for staging changes to an existing file < 1380478338 902511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can generalize that to "every command does four unrelated things" < 1380478342 287218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning that you can't use a tab-complete that only completes the names of new files < 1380478353 518938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I hadn't thought of that drawback < 1380479229 883420 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :TANEB i want some MATHS FACTS < 1380479283 264877 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEVEN PLUS TWELVE IS NINETEEN < 1380479295 902659 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORTY IS THE ONLY NUMBER WITH ITS LETTERS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER < 1380479313 191537 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOUR IS THE ONLY NUMBER WHOSE NUMBER OF LETTERS IS ITSELF < 1380479348 345786 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A SQUARE NUMBER PLUS TWICE ITS SQUARE ROOT PLUS ONE IS THE NEXT SQUARE NUMBER < 1380479390 979491 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that for you, Phantom_Hoover < 1380479427 564796 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the last is fun, the rest are shit < 1380479432 213112 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My nephew came up with a Korg Monotron patch that sounds like a fart and found it immensely hilarious. < 1380479519 575597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fantastic < 1380479588 960668 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you didn't ask for /fun/ ones < 1380479640 608066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They keep playing DEFENDER which turns out to be to *my* advantage. (I can also take advantage of opponent's resistance sometimes in similar way) < 1380479692 411536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh http://www.wps.com/J/codes/ claims that x^y for exponentiation comes from x↑y, ASCII 1963's ↑ having been replaced with ^ < 1380479700 148400 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380479729 634592 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380479906 788218 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380479926 551394 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380480064 34216 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :git add --update, the guy which is now gone < 1380480139 160091 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, sounds like he needs a .gitignore < 1380480224 864706 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380480408 336708 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380480414 214679 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380480640 638634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380480855 298608 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380481012 995190 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I'm not happy with the voice I'm using for Lady Bracknell < 1380481066 264903 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1380481117 526794 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir, I'm trying to do a one-man radio adaptation of The Importance Of Being Earnest < 1380481198 893957 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lady Bracknell is a very... thingy character < 1380481202 528258 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dameish < 1380481243 88181 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting project < 1380481338 653125 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :for actual radio < 1380481411 63344 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, scarily yes < 1380481468 851871 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380481893 834024 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.120 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380482012 400507 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380482035 781059 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380482211 454626 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gf's professor is claiming that interpreters read line-by-line, while compilers read all at once < 1380482239 666774 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a common place to draw a distinction < 1380482267 781143 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :another one is whether they actually execute the code directly or turn it into some other representation < 1380482272 93161 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no single definition < 1380482337 696062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost every "interpreter" does some sort of preprocessing though < 1380482353 569620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :producing bytecode or at least a parsed syntax tree < 1380482374 292964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though also, a lot of things that might be considered simple file format parsers can also be seen as interpreters, and maybe more of those are line-by-line? < 1380482390 232921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really hard (and pointless) to draw a sharp line between interpreters and compilers < 1380482414 623302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is classes. < 1380482422 586959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one definition is to say that a compiler should halt even given a program which doesn't halt < 1380482508 146016 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :super compilers don't always, I think < 1380482527 927791 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if there's no such thing as a program that doesn't halt in the language? < 1380482539 946298 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you go back to "really hard (and pointless)"? < 1380482689 785084 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: AFAIK Pascal is specially designed so that the compiler only has to do one pass < 1380482696 208835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C too < 1380482742 708720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still really want stageless Haskell, where you have something like (Typeable a) => Q Exp -> IO (Maybe a) available to compile Template Haskell ASTs at runtime < 1380482742 854165 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do any modern compilers actually do that < 1380482758 221737 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q? < 1380482763 20901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the Template Haskell monad. < 1380482813 182652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :catchy name < 1380482887 36992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I don't think so, C compilers are mad about optimising as much as is possible < 1380482893 890692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's named after the Star Trek character < 1380482905 4787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does TCC do more than one pass? and is it considered "modern" < 1380482906 914471 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1380482914 501005 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most importantly, when will someone write a Haskell compiler named THC < 1380482928 640935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good idea < 1380482942 330420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear you are begging the question with your definition of "modern" (itt I go out of my way to use the phrase "begging the question" 'correctly', thus impeding linguistic progress) < 1380482980 103340 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i just meant like, not written for a PDP < 1380483311 543194 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380483992 563217 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380484241 732715 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um < 1380484252 390348 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has lambdabot gone insane, or is oerjan looking at my ? operator again < 1380484274 715173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: are you insane < 1380484324 922213 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oerjan said 10m 22d 23h 20m 48s ago: You realize ? must have the property a ? (a+k) = a+(k+1) for all natural numbers k? (also you have to decide whether it should work left or right associatively," < 1380484329 627650 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :10m 22d ago? < 1380484340 861191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :months, days < 1380484355 552868 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I was thinking minutes < 1380484362 674202 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is lambdabot just delivering this to me now? < 1380484399 622792 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he sent it to sgeo__ and not sgeo, and you haven't been sgeo__ for a while < 1380484407 296064 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god we don't just use memoserv, huh < 1380484490 105966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380484921 628091 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380484922 728734 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380484963 689027 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380485872 571850 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380486402 594046 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380486870 209575 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380487152 183818 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380487532 877102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's a co�p down the road from my new flat <-- mine too! < 1380487572 946057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even newer than the flat < 1380487675 766642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically, down the pedestrian walkway across the railway crossing bridge. < 1380487733 479783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has had a membership card for many years.
< 1380487787 755534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's obviously not the same coop as in britain, although they did try to unite with the other nordic ones for a while, but i think they gave up on that. < 1380487920 335033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coop_Norden < 1380487984 977386 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are all kind of coops. There's one in Switzerland and one in Italy too. < 1380488037 854569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the norwegian one didn't used to be called coop until that nordic merger, but it didn't return the old name afterwards. < 1380488104 499906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait that's chronologically incorrect, they renamed 2 years before the merger. < 1380488121 378257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Phantom_Hoover was talking about, say, a chicken coop instead. < 1380488148 54621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think so, he wouldn't have called that socialist. or would he? < 1380488166 483162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't see that part. < 1380488181 137554 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380488198 904570 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :chickens are instinctive marxists < 1380488231 576316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a pecking order is a classless society, Phantom_Hoover < 1380488300 99899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can use ctrl-shift-T repeatedly to get tabs farther back. < 1380488310 636260 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you can just re-close the ones you didn't want to re-open. < 1380488341 139415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1380488684 185244 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.115 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380489105 864264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Phantom_Hoover and atehwa need to fix their encoding < 1380489164 329661 :nooodl_!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1380489174 400753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooodl < 1380489177 561251 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl is the correct spelling < 1380489213 582572 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hœrjan < 1380489229 799633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: why aren't you using extra o's instead of _'s < 1380489258 443983 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooodl is reserved for my ipad! < 1380489265 425972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. < 1380489280 289550 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s still plenty of space for more os. < 1380489280 927974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like ais523_ is reserved for wired connections, nowadays < 1380489297 585453 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about nodl? < 1380489301 601193 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ndl < 1380489338 138926 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ndl is my three letter acronym thing i use in arcadey games and stuff < 1380489359 843774 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that i think about it "ooo" would be a good one too < 1380489361 750049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well at least you have a system. < 1380489382 535934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick eventually condenses down to just the 5, under more and more character pressure < 1380489394 418271 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like http://responsiveurl.co.uk/responsive/dont/forget/url/ < 1380489473 116382 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sometimes ^ on another irc server < 1380489516 257790 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the nooodliest character? < 1380489529 601748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would think ~ if not ～ < 1380489530 660133 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~ is pretty noodley < 1380489539 696444 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :～ is noodlier :o < 1380489553 940121 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :𝀈 < 1380489565 270806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :≈ < 1380489569 522593 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what is the noodliest? < 1380489582 406859 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :∾ < 1380489594 418160 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ᔓ < 1380489597 195041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what was yours? < 1380489599 978348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first one I mean < 1380489612 987214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it 'STEAMING BOWL' (U+1F35C) (also, eww) < 1380489620 226265 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: U+1D008 < 1380489649 434841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biangbiang_noodles#Unicode < 1380489651 268710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord 𝀈 < 1380489652 958172 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :118792 < 1380489660 159777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :麪 < 1380489699 454775 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file bin/ord < 1380489701 55121 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/ord: Bourne-Again shell script text executable < 1380489713 607388 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ord < 1380489715 165913 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ echo "$@" | perl -C7 -pe 'chomp; $_ = join(" ", map { ord } split //, $_);' < 1380489743 167184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also are you all excited for the newly released Unicode 6.3.0 http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode6.3.0/ < 1380489750 415924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know about this because I follow Unicode Consortium on twitter < 1380489771 747002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are five new characters: ARABIC LETTER MARK, LEFT-TO-RIGHT ISOLATE, RIGHT-TO-LEFT ISOLATE, FIRST STRONG ISOLATE, POP DIRECTIONAL ISOLATE < 1380489779 485246 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it add BLACK FROWNING FACE? < 1380489783 584709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :( < 1380489793 814953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main thing is they changed the bidi algorithm < 1380489814 999166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also added standardized variation sequences for all 1,002 CJK compatibility ideographs < 1380489818 36388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever the hell that means < 1380490036 657111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does POP DIRECTIONAL ISOLATE mean the algorithm is actually stack-based now < 1380490063 784839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they already had POP DIRECTIONAL FORMATTING < 1380490072 270746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1380490072 672920 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"terminates the effects of the last explicit code (either embedding or override) and restores the bidirectional state to what it was before that code was encountered" < 1380490086 680481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the maximum explicit depth is level 61" < 1380490098 93076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, any esolang based on the Unicode bidi algorithm? < 1380490118 430933 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :61 is a lot of levels just to put letters in order < 1380490172 531950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what ARABIC LETTER MARK is for and what happens if i put it by something that is not an ARABIC LETTER < 1380490224 542446 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you will be arrested by the U+1F89D UNICODE POLICE < 1380490242 792336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: then that symbol becomes absorbed into the Umma forever. < 1380490244 47787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380490295 116173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, *Ummah < 1380490317 197647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's better thank khadafy < 1380490319 135861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there has been any serious attempt to provide a simpler alternative to Unicode, from people who actually understand why Unicode is so complex < 1380490321 3894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*than < 1380490382 208777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably no need because a) keeping the Universal Character Set would make sense in any case, and b) the other stuff (bidi, normalization, East Asian Width) gets "simplified" already by people just not bothering to implement it correctly < 1380490409 446673 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about https://github.com/aheui/aheui.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2006-10-27-specification.en.markdown < 1380490468 74636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1380490491 326875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both interpreter links are 404 tho :( < 1380490493 909265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: I think fungot was just trying to figure out whether a semigroup was a monoid. <-- i do not remember what you refer to. < 1380490494 216121 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wrote a perl-oneliner ( in the plt matcher? :p. < 1380490516 424101 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's why I clarified a couple of lines down. < 1380490537 791560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i _still_ don't remember. < 1380490547 543636 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go write one < 1380490571 223969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1380490632 199773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: now i checked, and i think you have confused me with olsner < 1380490632 382323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I only know of one programming language which specifies a Unicode normalization form for identifiers etc. < 1380490646 666257 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since hangul characters have those separate parts, I think the language should use a different part of each letter depending on which direction the instruction pointer is traveling < 1380490661 333096 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:23:17: apparently fungot "finally found the one", so I'm happy for 'em either way < 1380490661 859257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but i remember a submarine!! everybody out of the stated sample, a woodchuck would chuck no amount of money. if you < 1380490668 288541 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:24:01: itt fungot admits to using cliches < 1380490668 477567 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you can < 1380490677 133986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other languages you can probably make distinct variables named "coöp" and "coöp" which could be fun < 1380490698 385505 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can't rust do that? < 1380490709 237220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Rust is the one language I am thinking of < 1380490709 920594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't remember the context for that < 1380490723 356343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let coöp = 1; coöp = 2 in coöp + coöp < 1380490724 422611 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:18: lexical error at character '\776' < 1380490726 154908 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: h8r < 1380490726 891418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't think i was responding to the line you quoted. < 1380490728 763278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :source is normalized to NFKC < 1380490733 937190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OKAY < 1380490747 862447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't checked that rustc implements this rule properly < 1380490767 269813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> afk
< 1380490813 265278 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is there a difference between rust the language and rust the thing rustc implements < 1380491473 900808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : They're called leaves because they leave the trees in the fall. Which is why it's called fall. <-- i don't seem to find confirmation of the first part. < 1380491494 961317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Python identifiers are also normalized, as it's based on UAX #31 identifiers: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3131/ < 1380491568 218589 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fall vs autumn < 1380491568 762620 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go < 1380491572 428579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://vidasegunda.blogspot.com/2008/10/my-favorite-season.html < 1380491654 957878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good, good. linguistics as referenced on wiktionary does not seem to agree, though. < 1380491746 94740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo linguistics as referenced on common decency doesn't agree with two spaces after a period < 1380491748 973497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw en:fall/autumn = no:høst = en:harvest (v imper.) < 1380491779 111583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is = transitive? < 1380491785 259208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1380491800 896593 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is searching for the Simtel archive. There must be a mirror still online...
< 1380491831 254870 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:autumn = pl:jesień = en:autumn < 1380491833 963571 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today you learned < 1380491840 580813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, alas, my solemn fate to challenge the hangups of those who insist on one space after periods. < 1380491889 608078 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly periods should have four spaces after them < 1380491897 681551 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And shouldn't be called periods < 1380491907 113655 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces should have four periods after them < 1380491933 733983 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : ....yes < 1380491939 988953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also no:vår means both en:spring and en:our but that's probably more of an accident. < 1380491943 656575 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ....obey ....your ....own ....rules! < 1380491959 193617 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380491986 305952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last two seasons are obvious cognates. < 1380492001 345805 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the etymology of sv:skörd (= en:harvest) is, if the scandinavian languages don't agree < 1380492031 113033 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :disagree on the word to use, I mean < 1380492089 893637 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, from 'skära' (cut). That makes sense, I suppose. < 1380492159 67754 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harvest originally comes from keirō, “to cut off” according to wiktionary < 1380492195 914280 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so harvest and skörd are cognates then? < 1380492209 229165 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not necessarily < 1380492216 292052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: um that's not how you read that etymology. < 1380492224 899928 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't keiro a cognate? < 1380492238 705271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's getting sort of early-autumny here -> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130929-au.jpg <- that's taken today. < 1380492257 316884 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to come from PG *harbistaz (meaning autumn/fall) < 1380492262 678273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cognate, but harvest no more comes from it than humans descend from modern monkeys. < 1380492338 21693 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that makes harvest cognate with höst (and høst) < 1380492340 261359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i do descend from modern monkeys < 1380492344 898381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I missed the middle of it < 1380492355 84213 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harvest comes from kerp/skerp apparently < 1380492373 884221 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kerp/*skerp I mean < 1380492465 63051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while skörd would be from (s)ker- which is close but not exactly the same. maybe they're related even further back. < 1380492475 208945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+* < 1380492536 454439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: if you say so. < 1380492549 17671 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It all gets fuzzier the further back you go in time < 1380492561 125698 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if shachaf descends from modern monqis? < 1380492579 163996 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who knows what what those ancient people spoke sounded like < 1380492580 791428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: is shachaf your son < 1380492597 598034 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1380492636 863385 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is not a modern monkey < 1380492640 555359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any other kind of monkey < 1380492643 754579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you even say that < 1380492674 556883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ask FireFly < 1380492677 882584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: What kind of monkey did you descend from? Spider monkey? < 1380492726 712749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monkey was bitten by a radioactive/genetically engineered/nanobot infested spider < 1380492772 585203 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a monqi once bit my sister < 1380492773 556974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now leaps from internet forum to internet forum using its powerful sticky web < 1380492784 841345 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Actually, it was the other way around < 1380492788 781866 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The monkey bit the spider < 1380492800 683235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1380492836 305757 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: you shouldn't stand for this < 1380492855 586337 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380492890 340941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm sorry, the monkey and mnoqy theories are entirely separate. linguists have been unable to determine with certainty which word applies, though < 1380492906 350699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monkey < 1380492908 239344 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :monkey? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380492911 657248 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqy < 1380492913 809767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :The friendship monqy is an ancient Chinese mystery; ask itidus21 for details. < 1380492915 146510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mnoqy < 1380492917 387598 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy used to be monqy before the earthquake. < 1380492959 474686 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monqi < 1380492961 107424 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380492977 491436 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly I didn't intend mnoqy to be dragged into this < 1380493393 138004 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? FireFly < 1380493395 4087 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly was a short-running but well-loved sci-fi TV series released in 2003, starring Nathan Fillion and directed and written by Joss Whedon. < 1380493456 999484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote porn < 1380493461 759941 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :26) pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. \ 49) Porn. There, see? \ 92) I am an inherently pornographic being. \ 111) reading playboy for the articles actually seems plausible nowadays after all, < 1380493502 765912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote taken.*porn < 1380493504 26008 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :881) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people < 1380493504 180412 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get 49 or 92 < 1380493534 247862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you expect porn to make sense? < 1380493552 461098 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1380493586 963716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quotes don't have to make sense to be in `quote < 1380493600 37287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there has to be some justification < 1380493628 156654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I... I think I've just registered mathsfacts.tumblr.com Taneb: because all the porn names were taken? Yeah < 1380493632 730451 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1110) I... I think I've just registered mathsfacts.tumblr.com Taneb: because all the porn names were taken? Yeah < 1380493641 164030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good quote addition :) < 1380493718 58823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just needed to check for the context first. < 1380493749 259718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tumblr < 1380493749 598522 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380493750 928124 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :881) That's the problem with Tumblr All the porn titles are taken by non-porn people \ 1045) would not be surprised to find out this tumblr is guerilla marketing by wolfram co to sell mathematica to stoners \ 1110) I... I think I've just registered mathsfacts.tumblr.com Taneb: because all the porn names were < 1380493784 877867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the porn quotes outnumber the tumblr quotes by quite a margin. < 1380493816 901452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380493826 335686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathsfacts.tumblr.com is empty < 1380493841 722184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:59:42: Wait for me to upload them < 1380493841 867480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:59:44: One by one < 1380493861 85796 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, that quote is recent < 1380493864 905616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact you just added it < 1380493868 158106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :just now < 1380493871 953252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUH < 1380493891 641276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUN FACT: that quote is quite recent < 1380493961 275696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1380494042 606147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = -144 < 1380494052 864618 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact shachaf = ion < 1380494069 418202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1380494103 119398 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact Z̢̨̺̟̝͙͍̤̦͖͍̤̮̳̗̭̣̣͋̉ͭ̑͑̃͋ͧͨͥͦͣ̾̇̓ͧ̔̈́̚Á̸̔ͤ͊̉ͭ͒ͪ̚҉̶̵͎͎͓̻͎͕͍̫̪͈ͅL͌̔̾̌ͬ͏̶̻̲̰̺͎͍̯͈̺͙͚̣̻̫̥͔Ǵ̛̅̃̾̈́ͮ̎̅҉̡͕̺̫̟̗́Ő̧̝̟̩͉͙̼̮͉̝̣͈̳͚̅͑̑̓͗̚̚͜͞ͅ < 1380494116 504989 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that fact wasn't very fun ion :( < 1380494119 683085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380494132 799156 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380494133 89996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord _̣̣_͍̫̪͈_̫̥͔_̟̗_ < 1380494134 759028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :95 803 803 95 845 811 810 840 95 811 805 852 95 799 791 95 < 1380494146 839990 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380494150 590567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : mathsfacts.tumblr.com is empty < 1380494174 488359 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan, that's because maths makes no sense < 1380494181 271113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we need the reverse command of `unicode < 1380494190 389354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if i wanted sense i would have gone to mathssense.tumblr.com < 1380494194 767168 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i went to mathsfacts.tumblr.com < 1380494197 945957 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1380494198 294198 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i demand maths facts < 1380494203 679756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: have you given up blogging about it < 1380494209 985414 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I have yet to begin < 1380494226 639958 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khinchin%27s_constant is a p. good maths fact imo < 1380494227 446363 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't have told anyone until I had one published < 1380494242 727093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I prefer it this way < 1380494249 19896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: TOO LATE < 1380494249 495481 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: most natural numbers have the digit 7. < 1380494253 266433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's the BF derivative tumblr getting along? < 1380494265 92516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: and a large proportion start with 1 < 1380494287 365269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whereas only one starts with 0) < 1380494313 301772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you did there. < 1380494358 882705 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer to say what we write as "0" should be written "". < 1380494373 127203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly _how_ large a proportion is tricky to define, though, i think. < 1380494399 742735 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I think it's roughly 10% of them? < 1380494406 219606 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's more than 10% < 1380494413 687674 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380494432 871481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: fraction which starts with 1 of {1, ..., n} does not converge. < 1380494434 314359 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? Wow, that's a lot of numbers < 1380494435 302129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although yeah, the exact amount depends heavily on what definitions you use < 1380494438 723437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it doesn't converge < 1380494459 611094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen figures as high as like 40% < 1380494489 545232 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reiterate my statement: Wow, that's a lot of numbers < 1380494524 411515 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: the sum of all positive n^(−2) is π²/6 < 1380494528 423592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever n=999999999... it is close to 10%, but when n=199999... it will be close to 55% < 1380494528 714615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of numbers in general < 1380494541 175661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think those are the extremes < 1380494561 559207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1380494568 599217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I'm remembering what happened when the article on 0.999.... was featured on Wikipedia < 1380494570 906483 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, what's that in tau < 1380494578 722109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 10%, 11.1111...% < 1380494580 508952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a flame war about whether it's equal to 1 or not all day on the Talk page < 1380494585 374780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: tau squared over 24 < 1380494585 708397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other needs adjustment too < 1380494591 595683 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1380494679 100600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :converting between tau and pi is pretty easy, really < 1380494754 652382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i expect that flame war did not end up with any useful citations for the "not equal" POV < 1380494757 421873 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm just too tired right now < 1380494771 755877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't read it < 1380494776 155148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just got amused by its existence < 1380494801 672183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: failing at _both_ math and wikipedia policies, simultaneously? < 1380494808 331677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*at understanding < 1380494818 435081 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380494845 479512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people posting in that thread < 1380494874 548424 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : there was a flame war about whether it's equal to 1 or not all day on the Talk page < 1380494880 67079 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are there even arguments about that < 1380494905 17501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I don't think it's productive to ask "how is it even possible that some people misunderstand X on the Internet", for any X < 1380494924 893946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after seeing "how do u write uploader comments" in a YouTube comment, pretty much anything is possible < 1380494932 161874 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but on wikipedia < 1380494966 24183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: which is just as publicly accessible as YouTube? < 1380495004 500419 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well surely wp's perspective is 'every academic agrees with this unless they're being a smartarse' < 1380495037 287105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: actually a common row on Wikipedia is "should you place more attention on the scientific/academic point of view because it's scientific/academic" < 1380495105 644259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't involved in that, but several people cited issues related to that as the reason for leaving the site < 1380495149 435881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm older than you you idiot <-- the years you've been insulting everyone don't count < 1380495165 490176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i assume you're about 11 or 12. < 1380495196 110833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not counting the years you weren't dumb you're like 7 < 1380495234 49318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty close, my dad estimates 8 < 1380495259 311161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why do you insult everyone < 1380495260 616981 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I thought you were a few months younger? < 1380495264 736727 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly just an unpleasant thing to do < 1380495265 708322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(disclaimer: may not have measured the exact same thing) < 1380495271 457014 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it goes me --> you --> elliott < 1380495332 39154 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might < 1380495335 631058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it does) < 1380495354 545113 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you're weird (scottish) and went to uni too early < 1380495366 249608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're just more intellectually developed like that < 1380495369 13914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: am i weird < 1380495394 553522 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you're Finnish American which I assume is perfectly normal < 1380495403 10611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scots get an intellectual advantage by not bothering with things like politeness, maybe? < 1380495431 781752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I don't like seeing regulars insult each other < 1380495433 300598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i stop now, or ten minutes ago. < 1380495435 787655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're enjoying the flame war, go on < 1380495440 882728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if both of you are enjoying it < 1380495456 935007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it mostly just seems like pointless posturing, though < 1380495877 980824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : FORTY IS THE ONLY NUMBER WITH ITS LETTERS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER <-- COOL < 1380495893 367939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also what does it say about me that i checked this in my head) < 1380495895 236507 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That of course only applies in the english language < 1380495943 865436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey, I don't like seeing regulars insult each other < 1380495948 756185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it work in Norwegian? < 1380495951 746625 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not insulting anyone with any malice! < 1380495954 8765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's not a maths fact :'( < 1380496000 940141 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I suspect a lot of people have stopped caring about your intent a long time ago. < 1380496031 765171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1 = en/ei/ett is the only example i can find, although curiously all genders work :) < 1380496058 359159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's why I asked you/oerjan to drop the subject, rather than treating you like you were actually being malicious < 1380496061 955477 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly, in English "One" is in reverse alphabetical order < 1380496076 280366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also that's the only number which is gendered in norwegian, except combinations including it) < 1380496094 764709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think the Hebrew for "four" is also the only number that's its own number of letters long. < 1380496098 450288 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One Thousand is the first number with an 'a' in it if you don't count the "and"s < 1380496099 503346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :coïncidence? < 1380496110 511415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coin-cidence < 1380496119 462388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, good diaeresis < 1380496137 785209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh norwegian has several for that 2 = to, 3 = tre, 4 = fire < 1380496140 440149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: one half? < 1380496152 380651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it should continue the pattern indefinitely >:( < 1380496162 739615 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380496173 696438 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, first natural number, then < 1380496181 435358 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Counting from "zero" < 1380496190 377151 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I believe is the only number with a z in it < 1380496241 899191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: SORRY < 1380496246 56776 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about twenty-zero and thirty-zero and so on? < 1380496253 586468 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zerteen? < 1380496269 693281 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`numberwang 0 < 1380496271 20157 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: numberwang: not found < 1380496274 316905 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!numberwang 0 < 1380496281 69735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"twenty-zero" sounds like a zzoism to me < 1380496285 36028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "zerteen" < 1380496294 408777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I like zzoisms in general, but I wouldn't normally actually /use/ them) < 1380496307 751682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Zzo is Silent < 1380496312 677051 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380496335 596577 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: zzoist < 1380496353 769312 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 uses them better than I do < 1380496388 458979 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380496475 829368 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote zzo38 | shuf < 1380496478 90783 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :859) Yes I am native English speaker, but it is Canadian English, not British English. \ 824) The reason it isn't more popular is because I wrote it today. \ 1077) If you want to ask me if I believe in determinism then you have to be more specific. I haven't checked if I conduct electricity significantly better than < 1380497015 494303 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm, does someone know of some article that could help me choose which type of self-balancing search tree is the best-suited for a task? < 1380497147 824898 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is actually a maths fact now! < 1380497190 3832 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's almost not a fact :'( < 1380497209 986019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more like a definition of ... imo < 1380497272 557327 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a fact < 1380497282 723070 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it wouldn't be on mathsfacts.tumblr.com < 1380497290 880160 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quid pro quo < 1380497325 849210 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also do you know how hard it was to get that photo of the rice? < 1380497374 658710 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380497449 523956 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 hard? < 1380497465 861628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo don't cry over spilled rice < 1380497477 770847 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1/12 hard? < 1380497493 450885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: rice more goes with the 1 + 2 + 4 + ... + 2^64 story, me thinks < 1380497520 187083 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I didn't have any beans < 1380497533 22264 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was the allusion I was making < 1380497534 502278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1380497562 199506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 1 + 2 + 4 + ... = -1, obviously. < 1380497571 693027 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==oerjan < 1380497582 363177 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I had to pour the rice onto the table, take the picture, then pour the rice back into the jar! < 1380497592 530917 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At half 1 in the morning! < 1380497599 486902 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1380497601 846316 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've drifted < 1380497602 989489 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-adic_number < 1380497606 310521 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At half 12 in the morning! < 1380497613 798735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 in the morning? < 1380497621 654029 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1380498486 782362 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380498584 631181 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380498651 567583 :nooodl!~nooodl@174.181-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380499035 456469 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1380499065 412446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1380499068 244917 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.121 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380500028 568681 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380500034 241186 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfvoufoclvrejesa QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380500047 665943 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380500550 345404 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's chessboard is 5×13 < 1380500582 627012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :UM RIGHT < 1380500978 914784 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like the perfect size for a chessboard < 1380500984 237952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Approved by the Postmaster General | PDF still available during construction work: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | the boily at the end of all things < 1380501843 788966 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380502008 401719 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380502024 342151 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380502431 646898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does libpng have Y2K compliance notice dated 2012? < 1380502445 287377 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think that by then, Y2K compliance issues would mostly have become obvious < 1380502448 819075 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Y2K compliant as of January 112" < 1380502461 137529 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380502463 369899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1380502528 372663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they use the Islamic calendar and they're just being especially proactive < 1380502556 388389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's some sort of regulation thing that they want to conform to? < 1380502585 767657 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so that government time travel agencies sniffing around for software don't get scared off < 1380502625 254415 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read _The Little Prince_ < 1380502630 772342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1380502652 693831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good < 1380502707 178372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1380502830 130602 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380503109 690060 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380506844 286875 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380506973 537833 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbcbjgxnvidqemno JOIN :#esoteric < 1380507436 565277 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380507717 671429 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380508874 462274 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/dab7aa8bf8f038956f12899a2c004a35/tumblr_mr2z3uTZ2p1s5krz3o1_400.jpg < 1380508912 909103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is amazing < 1380508917 572263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is like something from http://liartownusa.tumblr.com/ [nsfw] < 1380508963 301752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this site is extremely worrying kmc < 1380508971 290855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad u think so < 1380508976 158935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that means it's working < 1380509070 416532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this site is a lot more nsfw than last time i looked -__- < 1380509329 134564 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIFFICULT-TO-STRIP-TO HITS makes up for it < 1380509359 553460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Fishin' Hole (Theme from the Andy Griffith Show)" < 1380509686 279097 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380509975 939516 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what games have better soundtracks than gameplay
< 1380509985 396748 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380509989 428045 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Games with a highly rated soundtrack but poorly reviewed gameplay < 1380510028 731371 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380510056 408826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the film _Antitrust_ has a fantastic soundtrack but kind of meh plot and everything else < 1380510063 818500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I still enjoy watching it < 1380510090 979448 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about, breaking up monopolies? < 1380510126 338735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a misspelling of Antirust. < 1380510135 656635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Antithrust. < 1380510183 637511 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380510206 831508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about what if microsoft went around murdering open source developers to take their code < 1380510210 341949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conspiracy thriller of sorts < 1380510218 841732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, right. < 1380510277 924629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely go with the soundtrack. < 1380510297 93422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably "Antithrust" would be the porn parody < 1380510440 732675 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not actually Microsoft, just a company that is a blatant stand-in for Microsoft < 1380510455 383073 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1380510493 52431 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Megahard, one hopes. < 1380510497 308737 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that in antithrust. < 1380510500 723061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, porn parody < 1380510501 411288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380510566 683729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see that the trick is to make it _both_ a porn parody and an anti-megacorp satire < 1380510639 635671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should be not a porn parody but just a genre parody with lots of dirty jokes, a la _Spaceballs_ < 1380510690 586787 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I watched Star Wars IV for the first time in August < 1380510703 606862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the danish translated Die Hard: With a Vengeance as Die Hard: Mega Hard. < 1380510703 755600 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed... generic. I guess it wasn't back then < 1380510742 950599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i've watched IV < 1380510869 75305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: i _know_ i've seen the relevant tvtropes page. < 1380510909 810930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny < 1380511976 495714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Games with a highly rated soundtrack but poorly reviewed gameplay ← Final Fantasy Mystic Quest < 1380512165 295554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380512184 675798 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380512207 471384 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops it looks like the video is a bit fuzzy, that perhaps the timing is not synchronized correctly or something like that < 1380512262 612128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the clock speed for the video is not precise enough. < 1380512272 463917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to fix this problem? < 1380512697 267608 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable variable, e's our op, if e can't solve it, no one can < 1380512879 92776 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: hrm? < 1380513023 584442 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#wolfgame < 1380513151 185001 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380513185 844853 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380514823 950735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380515717 832217 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon Card, if your opponent tries to use NIGHTLY GARBAGE RUN and stall and stuff so that you run out of cards, well, one thing I did was pass until I had drawn the last remaining card and then play ITEMFINDER to retrieve GAMBLER and play that; I won with 30 cards in draw pile when opponent has none. < 1380515726 863248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a kind of tactics that can be used. < 1380515817 798210 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you looked at Cardfight Vanguard? < 1380515829 487643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo__: No; can you explain? < 1380515888 768494 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a CCG. Each player has 6 cards in play, one (for each) is the Vanguard, which they can upgrade. 6 damage to it loses the game. And, um, maybe I shouldn't try explaining everything over IRC < 1380515927 8604 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardfight!!_Vanguard#Trading_card_game < 1380516024 936867 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516052 363195 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380516057 255430 :SgeoWeb!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516066 754082 :SgeoWeb!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was abruptly disconnected < 1380516071 444324 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the situation, no cards ever got knocked out; they didn't have much cards that could do damage, and their cards were all resisted to mine (which was actually to my advantage; I could paralyze them without allowing them to switch) < 1380516072 865198 :SgeoWeb!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Web interface has a weird captcha < 1380516075 844747 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516078 717506 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516086 86881 :SgeoWeb!ad034ea6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.3.78.166 QUIT :Client Quit < 1380516143 302174 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That ws odd < 1380516253 171914 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516262 364354 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516264 252039 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516307 207087 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516422 704323 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-845478447.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516575 890895 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516576 39917 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516576 187304 :Sgeo__!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516576 522179 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516576 717988 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516576 863278 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516577 19677 :pikhq!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516577 164913 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380516770 762 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c664cf.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380516829 288600 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@ool-44c664cf.dyn.optonline.net NICK :Guest99891 < 1380516975 766242 :Guest99891!~copumpkin@ool-44c664cf.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380517321 2705 :Guest99891!~copumpkin@ool-44c664cf.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380517347 611082 :Guest99891!~copumpkin@ool-44c664cf.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1380518149 765971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My problem with the video seems to have fixed itself by now. < 1380518519 664293 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380518549 994736 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1380518967 901618 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-845478447.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380520346 578434 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380522051 224517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :American mahjong hands change every year just by printed cards. Another way to do something like that in a far more strange way may be like: http://www.reachmahjong.com/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=56548#p56548 < 1380522264 994748 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380522498 933596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380523671 902391 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380523932 113962 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380523934 457888 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380524540 577516 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380526164 526638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380526461 143296 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380526648 880052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380526696 183809 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.99.94 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1380526703 524243 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380527335 248859 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380527731 24221 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380527942 822184 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380528109 256897 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380529495 236084 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380529965 276231 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1380529972 153160 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380530098 972252 :salparot__!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se NICK :olsner < 1380530164 294055 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does someone here program in INTERCAL? < 1380530336 504207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have done once. < 1380530340 994316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some things about it. < 1380530346 873232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it you need? < 1380530363 38543 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing special. Just asking. < 1380530375 609170 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause I read that paper ("F - Not funny") remember that? < 1380530384 254980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without a specific question, there is no answer. < 1380530447 232939 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx captain obvious. < 1380530502 336090 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually you answered. Cause the only question I had was if someone programs in INTERCAL. < 1380530526 918888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also find INTERCAL programs if you look. < 1380530552 231283 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380530684 242762 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. Where? < 1380530699 430762 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380530713 877015 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380530733 722638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you looked in the esolang wiki you might find the article about INTERCAL which links to some programs. I know Knuth wrote one INTERCAL program too. < 1380530806 765230 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaah right.... forgot that... sry ^^ thx < 1380531678 213914 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380531697 465449 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380531705 880178 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380531744 813768 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380532110 89378 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380532283 439027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380534432 328776 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380534597 836216 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1380534597 981336 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1380535255 891231 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380535432 303190 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380539972 655686 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380539991 164115 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380540726 332051 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380542016 227605 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380542067 690682 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380544012 684409 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380544819 584824 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380546043 845298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380546179 122017 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380547024 749641 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380547255 51965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380547259 518010 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380547482 224916 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380547636 239753 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380547637 615015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good orangignal morning! < 1380547641 962522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome M_Biohazard < 1380547644 934814 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um... Hi... < 1380547645 773156 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09M_Biohazar08d:10 Welc02ome to th09e i02nte13rnational hub for esot03eric programming language design and deploy03me13n10t! F14or09 more informa07tion, check out our wiki: h10ttp11://es04olang13s.or06g/wiki/Main04_P04age. (06For the05 o05ther kind of10 esoterica, 12try #esoteric on i03rc.dal.12net.05)03 < 1380547668 708501 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380547728 729584 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380547732 120137 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/DfA0pmgG < 1380547821 717256 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1380547824 315246 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380547842 768191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(? < 1380547857 710664 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I'm kinda scared right now. < 1380547941 722194 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380547956 204292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scared of? < 1380547970 52883 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. < 1380547979 755552 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on IRC. < 1380547989 259691 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't use it very much. < 1380548026 285907 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask elliott did you get anywhere with your text diagrams library? < 1380548026 470162 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380548040 514725 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380548064 149767 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make an esoteric programming language. < 1380548071 815413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1380548150 977778 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380548205 315091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's always good to esotericise. < 1380548275 541103 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_Biohazard: it looks a lot like brainfuck < 1380548295 101835 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380548295 247497 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 1d 16h 49m 12s ago: the problem is, that's mutual recursion, which is a different joke. < 1380548305 608169 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1380548336 829313 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_, what I sent WAS brainfuck. < 1380548348 6821 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would explain that < 1380548349 323973 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about something different. < 1380548355 492946 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good! < 1380548366 253194 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :care to share? :) < 1380548401 594317 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. < 1380548435 486967 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's quite rubbish right now, though < 1380548497 227091 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, how do I send a .txt file to you? < 1380548628 184369 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380548630 276057 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380548632 900831 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380548727 246155 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380548732 435845 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello back < 1380548737 719286 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, http://pastebin.com/TEiYj72n < 1380548786 428314 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380548804 813679 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380548842 530768 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggggggggh < 1380548848 461938 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay so < 1380548863 989201 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_Biohazard: the "double-meaning" of all those operators is kinda strange < 1380548882 22596 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance I'd expect :( :( to be "subtract -1" < 1380548915 975743 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so :( :( :( would'n be -3, but 0 (because you subtract -1 from -1) < 1380548952 652265 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380548958 824389 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an ofto? (can't ~duck, or I will incur the wrath of the Phantom) < 1380548964 950989 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OFTO < 1380548978 364152 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a smile < 1380549020 3337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. my monday-morning-uncaffeinated-brain can't parse the smile. < 1380549051 890513 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the O are eyes < 1380549068 342763 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1380549078 964722 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you wanted to subtract something, use :( :) :) < 1380549100 891980 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380549108 757782 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Becuase :( :( would be "Subtract -1" < 1380549116 650921 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is just :) :) < 1380549123 636735 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380549129 947548 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you say ":) :) :)" is -3 < 1380549151 290481 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1380549156 476385 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1380549171 297322 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( Either subtract (As :( :) :) :), "Subtract 3". Or like :), so :( is -1, and :( :( :( is -3 < 1380549186 982107 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make the distinction between "-3" and "subtract -1 from -1"? < 1380549202 623040 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I see there's already a ;) operator for numbers < 1380549255 741580 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd expect maybe ";) :( :( :(" to be -3, and ":( :( :(" alone to be "subtract -1 from -1" < 1380549261 776098 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1380549272 625046 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;( ;(, not :( :( :( < 1380549280 87115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the language you are talking about? < 1380549290 382000 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380549296 702077 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something I made, Myname. < 1380549353 998371 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, just stick with LOLCODE. < 1380549360 221186 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is too confusing for me. < 1380549360 748562 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooo < 1380549367 106733 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :your language sounds interesting < 1380549378 739265 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for starters, it appears to be purely functional, which is good < 1380549382 425783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nüüüüüü! there are smiles! (and an OFTO.) < 1380549434 716420 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIf you think it's interesting, why not delop it yourselves? < 1380549448 206420 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just a bored 11 year old. < 1380549531 46648 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's your language < 1380549541 159035 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might have suggestions! < 1380549553 532922 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, Koen_. < 1380549570 269373 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait... < 1380549581 442437 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't wait long, I have to go < 1380549606 524644 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but remember, functional is good! http://xkcd.com/1270/ < 1380549608 4631 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( and :) are both numbers, :-( and :-) could be actual subtract and add commands. < 1380549637 333558 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1380549641 990336 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1380549667 98370 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that + and 1 have the same keyword < 1380549686 206092 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1380549695 891991 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, :) can mean either "1" or "add" < 1380549698 550113 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's fun < 1380549709 308740 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to make sure that it's unambiguous which is meant < 1380549720 573453 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be a bit hard, though < 1380549743 951485 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen, :) :) :) :) could be interpreted as 1+1 < 1380549750 87124 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not +3 < 1380549750 947392 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have some type-chicking - for instance, if :) is applied to a number, then it's the function "add", but if it's used as the argument of a function that expects a number, then it's the number 1 < 1380549791 338727 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also do you have some syntax for grouping / parenthesizing? < 1380549793 708025 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you only have one variable? < 1380549828 292391 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does clear do? < 1380549834 114127 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it clear? < 1380549843 702289 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like CLS, Yorick. < 1380549858 516114 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) :):) could be interpreted as "add one to one" (so 2) but :) :) [ :) :) :)] would be "add one to (add one to one)" which is 3 < 1380549867 736019 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is type-chicking used in stringly typed languages? < 1380549901 327587 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yes, but it's done by the programmer when they don't forget to check. < 1380549923 785193 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "clear" have to do with the chinese sign language? < 1380549924 690578 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not... < 1380549940 110039 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just realizes he managed to misread an acronym
< 1380549942 216168 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go, bye < 1380549955 496373 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ofto < 1380549963 424406 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) ;) [:) :) :)] is "Add 3 < 1380549976 938507 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be interesting. < 1380549982 749226 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorick: that's not really explanatory is it < 1380549988 315103 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I kno right < 1380549991 772026 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of it as a face < 1380550001 639308 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to do that < 1380550010 100441 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ;) could be used after :) or :( < 1380550020 341783 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To define a number < 1380550033 224999 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380550075 729973 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1380550093 549378 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code a Malbolge interpreter in Malbolge. < 1380550106 910783 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380550207 34495 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_Biohazard: they had to bruteforce "hello, world" < 1380550219 580809 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bruteforce? < 1380550240 472086 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :try all the programs under a certain length until one printed hello, world < 1380550247 549619 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1380550256 345978 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... < 1380550331 837208 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :also malbolge might not even be able to run itself because it's not turing complete < 1380550344 120270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not? < 1380550348 897112 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am disappoint! < 1380550358 273477 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: memory limits < 1380550385 162689 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380550391 71745 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it only has 3^10 memory locations that each can hold a ten-digit ternary number (wtf :P) < 1380550398 524544 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is the FT in OFTO < 1380550406 487314 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a nose? < 1380550412 105877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a plane? < 1380550424 358599 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smile < 1380550431 792125 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :O are eyes. < 1380550438 695629 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FT is a large smile < 1380550440 215919 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/guest4/JAD.jpg < 1380550474 669335 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OFTO < 1380550491 649123 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really can't make out a smile < 1380550497 618566 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw it in paint. < 1380550498 727423 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither < 1380550522 574504 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like half of it is cut off < 1380550525 61986 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FT < 1380550536 30451 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i see it < 1380550540 86134 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But picture a semicircle under it < 1380550544 841304 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw it in paint. < 1380550552 49556 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll draw it yeah < 1380550571 219895 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ps does anyone know some way to quickly share drawings online) < 1380550589 966576 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :the imgur app? < 1380550598 118799 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the whole, "draw it in paint, save as png, upload to somewhere" thing is really annoying) < 1380550619 285990 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally it'd be like an image hosting site but it has a little applet you can draw crude diagrams in < 1380550665 980880 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a snapshot thing that puts things on dropbox and the link to it on my clipboard < 1380550733 673687 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/xyjCQgj.png < 1380550760 914162 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380550802 914998 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it, Noodl_. < 1380550803 681887 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :OFꟻO ? < 1380550807 596066 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUO makes more sense imo < 1380550820 583632 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OUO... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... < 1380550827 663139 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :°U° < 1380550851 480693 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever makes a IDE or Compiler or whatever, can make OUO whatever they want. < 1380550876 395515 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe OEƎO < 1380550893 397887 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<¯v¯> < 1380550898 652968 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1380551019 281009 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :M_Biohazard: can you make more complicated examples? < 1380551035 110119 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also would having just one variable really be useful?) < 1380551052 220199 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean 'Complicated'? < 1380551061 252209 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :using things like repeat? < 1380551082 235229 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okat. < 1380551087 324036 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :and waht would you use ;) for? < 1380551218 217893 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm thinking it could be used like ;) (Add) ;) [:) :) :)] < 1380551232 772695 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) ;) [:) :) :)] < 1380551248 40640 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ;) Would define a number < 1380551295 519574 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380552144 890206 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derp < 1380552283 991419 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yorick? < 1380552289 689859 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/TiSGPZhf < 1380552355 848685 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that prints random numbers up to 4? < 1380552380 768272 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380552388 830047 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets smaller and smaller. < 1380552411 181086 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380552541 523215 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTG < 1380552543 634097 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380552695 605223 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380552738 912145 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380553018 73839 :impomatic!~digital_w@108.19.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380553398 694231 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380553558 314831 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380554248 759301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380554464 861540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380555134 128410 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380555359 325715 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380556134 318718 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/aa432714(v=office.12).aspx I I just wow < 1380556145 157328 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found this linked... it's... a tri-state logic with five values < 1380556154 529894 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only two are valid? I don't even know < 1380556179 120510 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah that's a good one < 1380556232 789697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://threepanelsoul.com/2013/09/30/on-local-color/ also < 1380556266 446219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like "hacker news: the comic" xD < 1380556797 968727 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1380557998 753427 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380558005 387987 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380558536 136676 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380560223 867315 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380560324 244059 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380560328 991692 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1380560428 542756 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380560556 8369 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello? < 1380560711 283781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, is this like true/false/filenotfound < 1380560759 107420 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be worse O_O < 1380560888 368988 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380560900 682799 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, Augur. < 1380561011 598432 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380561027 471003 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: what is "tri-state boolean value" even supposed to mean? < 1380561055 592076 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380561055 855921 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has, like, three states. Except, by three I mean two. < 1380561073 453540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I I don't even know < 1380561114 486454 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, No, Maybe < 1380561122 684959 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow y'all are falling down on the job < 1380561126 433963 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome M_Biohazard < 1380561130 74904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​14M_Bi03ohaza11rd:12 W05el07co10me 11t08o the inte04rnationa13l10 07hu03b for esoteric programm12ing language de08s04ign and deploymen03t! For more09 informatio13n,06 14check out 09o03ur wiki: http:/12/esolangs.org/wiki/Main14_Page04. (For the other kind03 of esoteri10ca, try #13esoteric 05on irc.d03al.net.) < 1380561146 925798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I already `relcommed M_Biohazard :p < 1380561152 200944 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, they hadn't been `*elcome'd? < 1380561198 537531 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not since 16 o clock! < 1380561203 367775 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1380561207 26280 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04HackEgo: Welcome to11 the03 intern14ational13 06hub 07for12 es02oteric09 p08rogr02amming l09anguag03e 04design09 10and 08deployment! Fo10r more information07, ch14eck out our wiki: 14http://esolangs.org08/04wiki/Mai08n_Pag07e. 06(For the other kind o11f03 04e06s13oterica, try #esoteric on irc07.dal.net.) < 1380561262 679218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Bike < 1380561263 566881 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Bike is Mon Sep 30 10:14:23 2013 < 1380561291 242128 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :codu time, codu time! < 1380561308 974950 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime glogbackup < 1380561325 562887 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :And.. there were no CTCP reply. :< < 1380561332 762809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime metasepia < 1380561333 336854 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for metasepia is Mon Sep 30 13:15:33 EDT 2013 < 1380561345 612390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even my own bot answers CTCPes. < 1380561373 426579 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime boily < 1380561373 859900 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for boily is Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:16:13 -0400 < 1380561469 661285 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime M_Biohazard < 1380561470 36496 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for M_Biohazard is Mon Sep 30 18:17:48 2013 < 1380561481 49583 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime lambdabot < 1380561481 195002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live on the internet, do you expect me to have a local time? < 1380561560 938496 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot? < 1380561564 888571 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot. < 1380561592 937606 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambbot < 1380561661 154046 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :dabot. < 1380561682 339873 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna learn how to code in FiM++. < 1380561713 453663 :^v!~DerpHerp@71.238.152.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380562708 716365 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380562887 916703 :fizziew!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380563167 652027 :M_Biohazard!5e06a989@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.137 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380563363 916822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1380563372 401849 :fizziew!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi NICK :fizzie < 1380563621 688828 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380563804 845838 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit? impending doom? apocalypse? why has fungot left? why? WHYYYYY??? < 1380563976 620166 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380564009 695238 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380564089 25422 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380564133 771522 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380564343 569464 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380564437 527531 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe fizzie is broken < 1380564463 152512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie are you broken? do you impend doom? < 1380564463 297998 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380564463 442972 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work to @tell fungot stuff? < 1380564473 237002 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fungot can I tell you stuff? < 1380564473 382593 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380564477 745933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: we'll see. < 1380564608 338769 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380564979 445838 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you know why Roujo disappeared from #esoteric < 1380565145 275472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: he didn't feel like he could contribute positively to the channel :( < 1380565262 136934 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380565374 206256 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, neither can I but I'm here anyway < 1380565421 518406 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did itidus leave the channel> Why did cpressey leave the channel? Why did, I don't know, tiffany leave the channel? < 1380565432 77391 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a tiffany? < 1380565433 874614 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc scared them off < 1380565622 686669 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, maybe a bit before your time? < 1380565667 979382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only traces I have of the palæochannel are in the Quotes. I think I stumbled upon a tiffany or two in there... < 1380565702 502110 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you even meet itidus < 1380565723 428672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1380565732 691472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hm. apparently there aren't any tiffanies in the quotes.) < 1380565767 612664 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are even graphes, but fizzie is broken, and I can't be assed to remember where on the intarwebs his webserver is. < 1380565814 372461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :z-something-something dot fi, I think < 1380565836 201978 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/ < 1380565904 55344 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, when did itidus leave? < 1380565942 456882 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs zem.fi < 1380565964 475814 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.2957 < 1380565993 853806 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: fairly long time ago I think < 1380566007 191199 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a year? dunno < 1380566023 206908 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was there... last week? < 1380566030 96185 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :orly < 1380566037 919091 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :his last msg in my logs is 2013/05/29 < 1380566068 485032 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was really just a visit to say hi < 1380566070 918262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, itidus, not nortti. < 1380566093 242006 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a fire alarm is happening, bbl < 1380566115 722053 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nortti is here right now < 1380566191 156406 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :before that, 2012/10/13 < 1380566197 239374 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't hear any facepalm. any reverberating sound is an audiollucination. < 1380566294 777886 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, am I consisdered to have left the channel? < 1380566300 607687 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380566364 555496 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380566499 377405 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was fun < 1380566867 539581 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, that was fun" -- Taneb "atriq" Ngevd < 1380566917 607688 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "Well, that was fun" -- Taneb "atriq" Ngevd < 1380566921 621171 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1111) "Well, that was fun" -- Taneb "atriq" Ngevd < 1380566979 684299 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're up to 1111? wooooah... < 1380566983 550430 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes < 1380566988 673947 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.18673 < 1380567058 184247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: wow, that's a bad quote < 1380567061 602418 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you addquote that < 1380567074 891905 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly to mess with boily's pdf < 1380567081 821617 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in elliott's honour, that one about artificially inflating the concentration of djangoes and giraffes is not included.) < 1380567101 786606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: continue like that, and I'll add you as a collaborator to the github repo. < 1380567117 199536 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380567152 699301 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be in too many channels < 1380567155 324454 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This morning my university gave me a pack including, among other things, some tic-tacs, some chocolate, and a condom < 1380567166 651335 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: in fact, as a preventive measure, you are now a conspirator. congratulations, you have full commit access. < 1380567178 230410 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If an actual person did that, I'd be confused and offended < 1380567188 621353 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you offended by tic tacs < 1380567190 79055 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a github repo for the pdfwisdom? < 1380567190 224638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tic tacs are great. < 1380567194 640053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yup! < 1380567216 587867 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, by that specific combination < 1380567223 332162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: who are you? were you `relcommed? do you like pulled pork sandwiches? < 1380567229 773765 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not seeing the connection between chocolate and condoms < 1380567243 699251 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380567246 250548 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but https://github.com/poulet/ is empty? < 1380567255 578395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not me. < 1380567268 283579 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: one happens before, the other after. < 1380567294 665241 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: by the way, what kind of thought process lead you to think that I'm a chicken on github??? < 1380567300 74074 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PART #esoteric :"See you guys later" < 1380567316 992151 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: because you say poulet so often < 1380567334 71668 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh. my quit message. < 1380567362 635924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm pfcuttle. the repo is at https://github.com/pfcuttle/wisdom. it is private. < 1380567394 494327 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380567441 462919 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you simon brenner? < 1380567454 270399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is possible < 1380567470 417038 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my github is fairly empty < 1380567508 850136 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is haskell and assembly stuff, and it is fairly empty. I deduce that you are olsner. < 1380567565 591981 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might actually move the rest of my assembly stuff onto github soon < 1380567726 588547 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380568468 704637 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380568475 846073 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380568594 924579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb not yet < 1380568595 106144 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380568656 760230 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380568897 955255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best method for chombo penalties in mahjong? < 1380568933 983427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: method? you mean, the amount that should be given? < 1380568974 916649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: No, see http://www.reachmahjong.com/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53165 for what I mean. < 1380569118 414515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that's a very interesting thread. < 1380569132 154423 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380569222 416028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if you have concluded like I have that there is something wrong with the tournament format. < 1380569251 157876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such a format would still work on a computer though) < 1380569339 11071 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at our club, in a regular game, we apply chombo full force for important errors that would disrupt the game. for minor mistakes, like bumping the wall, it's a 1000 in the riichi pile. < 1380569351 513103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in tournament games, it's chombo all the way. < 1380569401 266350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of our players went to european tournaments. he hates those from the EMA who enforce kuitan nashi :D < 1380569450 469283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like kuitan nashi either. < 1380569503 526428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a strategically placed open tanyao against someone who obviously is going to score baiman or more is histerical. < 1380569552 681622 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380569615 860190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and when you need 2 han to win, open tanyao becomes more difficult to make, so you still have part of the consequences of kuitan nashi in a few cases. < 1380569813 801583 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In discussing different mahjong variants, someone mentioned American, which changes every year (and is otherwise extremely different from other mahjong games, but I will ignore that for what follows). Did you see my idea of one that changes continuously based on the planets? < 1380569825 220887 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first point Kyuu makes is important if you are in a ladder. for our last local tournaments, you played (approximatively) one game against each other member. < 1380569840 239816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :score depended on your end position. < 1380569875 595278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes that is important in such a format. < 1380569887 287765 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, regular chomboes work, as giving points to the other players only affect a single game. < 1380569910 514466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may have to subscribe to that forum, and throw in my two cents eventually. < 1380569924 675129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think a single game is a format that works better (although see the rest of the thread too). < 1380569932 906131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least 5¢, as we don't have any pennies anymore...) < 1380569951 553991 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read it, and there are some extreme measures in there! < 1380569954 690929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, yakuman??? < 1380569968 586645 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The government doesn't make pennies anymore, and they are no longer required for payment, although we still have pennies (and I still use it) < 1380569999 637132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can see the reasoning in those measures there, even though it seem strange < 1380570001 614936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a bucket of them. they are gathering dust. < 1380570193 895811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a tournament format based on the total scores of each player to determine ranking in the tournament, any method seems unfair for some reason. < 1380570201 332032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it look that way to you too? < 1380570242 961154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... I like the traditional chombo, but for situations where you could continue playing with one player tsumogirying... < 1380570262 511382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! < 1380570398 909970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving points to the opponents is very important if their position depends on their final scores. if tournament ranking is orthogonal to match points, then giving points is less relevant. < 1380570412 823120 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1380570441 613035 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380570661 99247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and that is the kind of problems being mentioned. < 1380570697 526240 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooool < 1380570700 510389 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i broke antichamber < 1380570717 805989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'll have to discuss those matters with the other club members, if we're going to have any tournament next year. < 1380570730 40855 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what is an antichamber? < 1380570745 19249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a crazy puzzle game < 1380570760 474616 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by the way, any chance to have a joust between Vancouver and Montréal? < 1380570784 90111 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(feel free to replace Vancouver with whichever BC city you live in, as I couldn't really pinpoint where you come from.) < 1380570809 822174 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you shouldn't have said that. I don't have enough free time. < 1380570820 545631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in Vancouver often enough, but I don't know how to have a joust between Vancouver and Montreal. < 1380570861 770217 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... flying a whole mahjong club across the country ought to be expensive. < 1380571307 161225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once had a idea of some game that you cast a horoscope for the current time and place and then the positions of planets and houses and aspects and so on determines things in the rules of the game; the rules then change over time due to the planets, houses, and moon movement, and if in a moving vehicle, based on that too. What is your opinion of this kind of strange ideas? < 1380571368 920930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am way too tempted to try that than socially acceptable. < 1380571419 195549 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're talking to a former nethack player. I miss having to take the moon phase into consideration in a game :D < 1380571461 88415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes in this kind of game I have this idea of, the phase of the moon will be into consideration too. < 1380571898 600929 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to grow a bonsaï. < 1380572031 958574 :^v!~DerpHerp@71.238.152.180 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380572140 675025 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380572437 165459 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380573757 732114 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380573765 742089 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380573810 246147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how'd you break it :o < 1380573817 618446 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(alt.: how can you tell) < 1380573826 477629 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it crashed to desktop < 1380573832 470150 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i guess that's pretty clear yeah < 1380573843 413713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how it fills in squares of blocks < 1380573876 507675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can also fill in cubes, and if you're inside a cube when it fills in, it crashes < 1380573930 621530 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. nice < 1380574615 320623 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380575165 845055 :Guest36655!~james@TOROON63-1176245899.sdsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380575182 910252 :fizzie!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I am doing a thing. < 1380575188 228794 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guest36655: hi! bonjour! < 1380575197 103694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uhm. what kind of thing? < 1380575209 655904 :fizzie!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: The thing involves a reorganization of hardware and that kind of stuff. < 1380575241 196593 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. good luck with your thing, then! < 1380575257 232979 :fizzie!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be that I'm going to have to go to sleep before a fungot. (Though I'm slightly unsure why it went down; it's on a separate machine.) < 1380575436 620552 :fizzie!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course, it must've been the IPv6 tunnel. < 1380575566 440319 :Guest36655!~james@TOROON63-1176245899.sdsl.bell.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380575606 727855 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380575627 688972 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380575751 84581 :fizzie!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi QUIT :Changing host < 1380575751 229883 :fizzie!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1380575824 74481 :fizzie!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it back online, but it's refusing to obey me because my username is nonstandard. < 1380575839 246989 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonstandard? < 1380575857 836715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have spas at Aalto? < 1380575882 426802 :fizzie!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a "~htkallas" where a "fis" should be. < 1380575895 810042 :fizzie!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's short for Signal Processing and Acoustics. < 1380575910 418417 :fizzie!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie NICK :fizziew < 1380575930 520902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1380575935 373116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall do it with this instead. < 1380575973 724367 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380576013 678818 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh hai! (and no damning my mother) < 1380576013 965050 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maclisp cruft in r5rs, where it was from the us < 1380576254 174590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ariya.github.io/css/spinningcube/ CSS is getting pretty powerful... < 1380576296 699655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the work of a witch! CSS was never meant to be useful! < 1380576298 496511 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just going to assume that loading my webpage would kill my computer. < 1380576319 601396 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now I know where fungot drew AMICED from.) < 1380576319 900515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: while loops and gotos are bad therefore loops with tail-recursion are bad? < 1380576337 754424 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: tail-recursion is good. < 1380576338 126088 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eye trackers track where your eyes look like? like a basic firewall problem. it's that simple. < 1380576415 914103 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of course I'd like to have a firewall if I'm wearing google glasses. < 1380576416 161765 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you just rearrange your arguments to a macro??? < 1380576426 500623 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: only in the wisdom PDF. < 1380576495 755574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, the thing that scares me most about these things is that i can select the text < 1380576530 973277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380576556 87742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean each side of the cube can be arbitrary HTML content < 1380576646 989860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when people thought it was really cool that you could run a compositing window manager and put a different window on each side of a spinning cube < 1380576649 964126 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the browser is the compositing window manager of the future < 1380576713 792725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look forward to whatever system we use inside the browser that grows to take on its role < 1380576727 666322 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380576745 614594 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook, maybe. people still use facebook, right < 1380576792 827364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine... four revolutions of the facebook CSS composited cube at the same time... < 1380576805 679429 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380576969 428666 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1380577217 336914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the scary thing < 1380577221 683442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Facebook really does want to replace the Web < 1380577225 306234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they'll succeed though < 1380577268 307919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see kmc is a google+ pusher < 1380577278 409314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lool < 1380577293 906164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet there's some cool open source Mozilla federated social network project that I'm supposed to be pushing < 1380577313 517679 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does federation work < 1380577320 519545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert star trek joke < 1380577339 278752 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :today while eating at a franchise of a large chain i was wondering if you could break the management structure up more so it'd be less uniform < 1380577392 860417 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody in this lab just explained if/else. described as "very powerful". it's true < 1380577422 163348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elaborate re: management? < 1380577458 998252 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, just like, franchises are managed from above i assume, they coordinate different menu changes and such so it's uniform across franchises < 1380577500 406265 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the second anamanaguchi PV I watch. didn't make sense, like the first one. < 1380577502 232259 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just imagining it not being quite so uniform. like the coordinator for franchises in my state uses a slightly different menu from the one in california (i suppose they might do that already) < 1380577510 192067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :menus do vary regionally yes < 1380577513 804991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how much that's coordinated < 1380577524 39666 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a systems biology course this year < 1380577529 4653 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand facebook, much less google+. what are their purpose? how do they work? < 1380577532 47147 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :take iiiiiit < 1380577537 401495 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds interesting but i am afraid i will become Bike if i take it < 1380577547 466581 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news, i haven't done anything in systems biology yet < 1380577548 398516 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, the reason lwip didn't put any source/destination address in my ethernet packets was that memcpy was broken < 1380577548 968916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: nah. it's biology, you can't become a Bike. < 1380577549 114418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast food franchises seem to be pretty uniform but other things less so < 1380577562 350442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it pretty much worked as long as you only called it once per function < 1380577595 283631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there are a bunch of hardware stores in the US branded as "Ace Hardware" but they use that branding alongside some store specific branding, and they vary a lot in appearance, how things are organized, etc. < 1380577601 876324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apparently "it is a co-op and not a franchise" < 1380577609 636366 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that's interesting < 1380577623 901500 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is each store a co-op which independently negotiates with the rest? < 1380577643 138990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "retailers' cooperative" which is a different thing from a "consumers' cooperative" i.e. hippie grocery store? < 1380577648 498660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1380577664 184080 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know either. the only co-op i'm familiar with is one around my hometown that sells farm supplies. < 1380577670 211516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be that "Ace Hardware" is effectively just a hardware store supplier < 1380577680 372710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does some branding in order to promote its clients < 1380577867 774732 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://goo.gl/maps/NUras < 1380577909 199394 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: does the street view concord to your version of ace hardware? < 1380577934 925674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oui < 1380577942 725772 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380577967 177112 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that's definitely it. < 1380577982 280410 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "quincallerie" the translation for "hardware"? < 1380577985 701234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I found a 3-valued boolean in the ncursesw API < 1380578010 915971 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things crop up in all sorts of places < 1380578026 722149 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should use four-valued booleans, because that's the best kind of logic < 1380578044 744216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a «quincaillerie» is a hardware shop. < 1380578061 741878 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380578136 815266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nah, nine-valued booleans are where it's at < 1380578155 630589 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the values < 1380578157 126933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :01LHZWXU- < 1380578167 849128 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lectricity < 1380578167 994310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-? < 1380578181 94817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, maybe not - < 1380578187 176369 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬, then? < 1380578190 624622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I nearly always forget one < 1380578205 806184 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is -, it means an irrelevant value < 1380578212 75012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "skip" in Algol 68 < 1380578223 838585 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to work with a codebase that had distinct enums with YES/NO/MAYBE, XY_TRUE/XY_FALSE/XY_FILE_NOT_FOUND (+ all other possible error codes) *and* TRUE/FALSE < 1380578245 719662 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: having FILE_NOT_FOUND in there somewhere is traditional for a multivalued boolean < 1380578267 153259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380578355 149033 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy australian mailman reminder's day! < 1380578377 845456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: O_O < 1380578381 660233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just in the last minute, too) < 1380578410 451806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XY_TRUE, XX_TRUE, X0_TRUE < 1380578434 819415 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :XY was just an arbitrary prefix so it doesn't conflict with normal booleans < 1380578442 759623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it used to be that in Rust you could write "2u8 as bool" and this would give a bool that compares unequal to both true and false < 1380578445 54898 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why the apostrophe? < 1380578462 857608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in Perl 6, you can write "true but False" and have a bool that's like true in every way, except that it's false < 1380578468 374908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. it stringifies to "true" < 1380578476 797699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1380578481 859015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i only got an apostrophe wrong? that's better than expected! < 1380578486 608844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Rust thing was a bug; that's just perverse ;P < 1380578512 278909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well elliott insists on writing it as "australian mailman mailing list reminders day", but nobody else cares < 1380578517 80058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's worse than "0 but true" < 1380578524 149044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's the replacement for "0 but true" < 1380578548 243950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we lost our australian. < 1380578558 687434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ripidus < 1380578568 97307 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380578573 130672 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the 'but' operator do? < 1380578574 670790 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's actually "Australian mailman mailing list memberships reminder(s) day", in full < 1380578581 721833 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right < 1380578588 360872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it applies a mixin to an object < 1380578617 800392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: now get wikipedia to acknowledge it on the front page < 1380578636 105014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, Wikipedia politics, my true calling. < 1380578643 921235 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -v :elliott > 1380578644 451760 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380578650 197889 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tired of having voice when nothing I say is interesting < 1380578680 991553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380578696 142843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are interesting < 1380578700 512390 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can make somelike "true but False" in the other way around, in JavaScript, at least, making false into a object will be true even though it is string to "false" and so on, is other way around < 1380578731 519197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: huh right, that would work < 1380578760 101759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, what does one do as an op when someone's IRC client is rapidly connecting and disconnecting, producing lots of join/quit spam < 1380578763 719225 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what even is this thing < 1380578775 565064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: in #haskell we tempban with a redirect to ##fixyourconnection < 1380578779 685851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I do that < 1380578786 779476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You could filter them out on the client side I suppose < 1380578791 562663 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: on freenode? < 1380578799 366447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, on Mozilla IRC < 1380578803 149989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1380578804 209775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it might be the same < 1380578813 661810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well how do you do it on freenode B| < 1380578815 3247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :appending $##fixyourconnection to the ban is how you do it on freenode < 1380578818 569852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1380578825 603311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think maybe redirects are a separate mode on some ircds and stuff? < 1380578843 953033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're running Unreal ircd < 1380578851 725566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, the usual response to join spam is a short ban < 1380578853 87958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1380578853 233149 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ##fixyourconnection exists on freenode and probably not on mozilla irc < 1380578858 598088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it doesn't have to exist < 1380578862 737971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sure, I can join it tho :D < 1380578872 346089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just has to not be already in use for some other purpose < 1380578882 368904 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :banishing people to a channel with only kmc in it < 1380578882 714224 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, on Freenode, it probably has a mode set allowing anyone to redirect people to it < 1380578884 720964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :very harsh :P < 1380578909 67842 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's some twilight zone shit < 1380578941 595654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written a lot more about HWPL and removed and changed a few things I already had before, too < 1380578946 363788 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he complains to you about haskellers and programmers living in california until you fix your connectio < 1380578947 785113 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*n < 1380578956 459869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The RAM and MUX and DEMUX commands are removed, for one < 1380578982 798306 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do i say interesting things < 1380579002 980857 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1380579014 445891 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're interested in molkky, definitely < 1380579219 137436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: http://rationality.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Bay-Area-memespace1.jpg < 1380579233 216472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played mölkky with kmc and Gracenotes < 1380579242 230119 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also douglass_ but she's not in this channel < 1380579290 319807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a lass by the name of doug < 1380579292 945610 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, this seems sill < 1380579294 163164 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*y < 1380579296 64267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1380579297 795014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :circumstantial evidence tends to point to the fact that people from #esoteric meeting IRL don't cause the universe to implode. < 1380579300 21192 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it with me and terminal characters < 1380579305 784158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not a map of memes, it's a map of community self-images < 1380579361 700242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: you have a terminal disorder < 1380579371 230969 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380579375 492285 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1380579376 422054 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1380579377 483908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380579392 766528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this image makes me want to set fire to san francisco ;_; < 1380579404 492092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newline should come _after_ the other character, you see. < 1380579414 314921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok just give me 48 hours notice < 1380579431 805805 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, are the trains really that slow < 1380579435 818996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, no setting major cities (or even minor cities) on fire < 1380579447 801656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco's been on fire before! it'll be fine < 1380579448 232844 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll burn them and we'll damn them < 1380579515 320796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah in the 1850s the city would burn down like every other week http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/fire.html < 1380579532 874072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why we now have triple redundant firefighting water supplies < 1380579566 814758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because fires tend to destroy a maximum of two water supplies? < 1380579568 799964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time I look at this image I find something newly upsetting in it < 1380579606 599072 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the salesperson was quite clear that doubly-redundant systems are quote for suckas endquote < 1380579640 90009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the city water supply, and then there's a whole separate network of high pressure pipes just for fighting fires < 1380579651 219627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter can be pumped with saltwater from the bay if the reservoirs are destroyed < 1380579658 779385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this image that's causing pyrmoania is fucking amazing. < 1380579663 427498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then there are also hundreds of isolated cisterns under the streets < 1380579684 555548 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer Scientists -> Bayesian epistemology -> Effective Altruists < 1380579685 175814 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, the systems biology module has differential equations as a prerequisite < 1380579688 871070 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad sign < 1380579709 861537 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frisco is now fireproof, but is it alienproof? < 1380579710 704884 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380579712 159770 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it time for me to tell phantom about turing's working on differential equations for modeling developmental systems < 1380579713 922300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cisterns are marked with big red brick circles so that the fire department can find them even if they're drunk, which they frequently are http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/SF-firefighter-could-face-DUI-hit-run-case-4641434.php < 1380579721 473262 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, yes, it was clearly designed by the ramans < 1380579732 99453 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i know, and i can never truly forgive him < 1380579737 260840 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. and I guess it is waterproof, too? < 1380579742 383730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hacker culture -> With cleverness, we can do better than establishment institutions -> Quanitified self < 1380579751 792721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hacker culture -> Life-hacking -> Rationalists < 1380579798 706925 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got some good points, though. like "LGBTQ culture" being on the other side of the map from "Respect people for what they create" < 1380579809 260150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1380579814 995497 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380579833 547153 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people need to stop giving SF all the credit for the 60s counterculture, LGBTQ rights, etc < 1380579846 67221 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woodstock was in SF right < 1380579852 586457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, upstate new york < 1380579856 182652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stonewall riots were in NYC < 1380579881 373136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i forgot that in addition to being how i joke it's also how i talk normally < 1380579901 561020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the most enduring effects of 60s youth protest were in the South < 1380579903 654258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely civil rights < 1380579918 778616 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh < 1380579926 397190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking the other day about the absurdity of describing Burning Man as a "counterculture event" given that it's thoroughly mainstream among the tech elite who largely control the world < 1380579962 461394 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: isn't... um.... what's it called < 1380579965 359593 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SXSW something like that too? < 1380579979 477215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard anyone label SXSW as "counterculture" < 1380579987 234649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably someone has tho < 1380579990 746990 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380579996 469893 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this wide and wonderful world < 1380579997 388241 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still dont understand what it is though? except that like hipstery people talk about it) < 1380580003 121199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's culture among those who count, right? < 1380580003 997343 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it has music? < 1380580017 512373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SXSW: homeless wifi spots and also I guess a lot of bands?? < 1380580022 62270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a combination art/music festival and startup demo convention < 1380580024 211076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason < 1380580025 689724 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EF69C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380580027 437432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the latter kind of ate the former < 1380580037 673651 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380580040 872145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know it from jwz, who mostly talks about the bands < 1380580050 116754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway getting naked and high in the desert doesn't make you a rebel, as much as I enjoy this activity < 1380580079 237330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see kmc and jwz complain about things together < 1380580101 59520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380580106 159496 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd probably hate me < 1380580126 685115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he's sick of nerds who only know about his nightclub for nerdy things < 1380580130 712032 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote anyway getting naked and high in the desert doesn't make you a rebel, as much as I enjoy this activity < 1380580132 804890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as it happens I don't give a shit about industrial music < 1380580137 148899 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1112) anyway getting naked and high in the desert doesn't make you a rebel, as much as I enjoy this activity < 1380580140 456451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was going to addquote that too < 1380580147 895417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except I'd be less sure about it < 1380580160 430196 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't share much music taste with jwz either, lol. < 1380580169 228267 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I tend to be the sort of person who soul-searches and then asks permission, before adding a quote < 1380580172 119575 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except for the rez soundtrack, inexplicably) < 1380580172 849769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like... secretly know jwz personally, or something? < 1380580181 138367 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff no < 1380580190 810106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, <3 rez < 1380580194 131378 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :music is like half the content of his blog is all < 1380580196 622691 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:29:29 like, I tend to be the sort of person who soul-searches and then asks permission, before adding a quote < 1380580197 21037 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rez the vibrator game < 1380580199 803689 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:28:14 should i `addquote kmc or not < 1380580203 155618 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rez is the vibrator game. < 1380580227 213821 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :my soul services are available free of charge < 1380580233 895160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey, just because I soul-search and ask permission before adding a quote doesn't mean oerjan doesn't too :) < 1380580241 741752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: surely there's more than one by now < 1380580243 389193 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary soul-search < 1380580280 14906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a while ago i was looking at a teledildonics company's site actually. everything was super straightforward and it didn't use the term "teledildonics" so i think that means it's mainstream now. < 1380580298 518018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1380580329 767651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I think they're marketing at people who don't already know what it is < 1380580363 684140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. it was pretty straightforward, just linked dildos and, uh, i forget what you call the ones for dicks < 1380580369 866147 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my friend works for a hardware startup and can't tell me what they do, but I've decided (and successfully convinced others) that it must be Android-powered cock rings < 1380580382 751856 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 7000000000 < 1380580383 773032 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 32.70470777604387 < 1380580389 630770 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i admit that i don't really know what cock rings are for or why they would be powered. < 1380580416 430945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc they constrict bloodflow to allow one to maintain an erection better < 1380580421 597435 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're a ring on a cock, what do they sound like < 1380580423 145335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gonna double check that while I'm at work < 1380580426 318567 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that's pretty clever. < 1380580435 739157 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :They aren't very comfortable < 1380580436 837311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's scary :( < 1380580439 329183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i can't look them up, but speculating at work is okay" < 1380580466 89232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think kmc's explanations here are consistent with the typical superficial NSFW restrictions that most employers use < 1380580491 74956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need to go deeper < 1380580499 648858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the text on my screen is pretty hard to read from a distance < 1380580526 584279 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380580539 171773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at Folsom Street Fair i saw a naked guy with a rubber tail coming out of his butt (presumably attached to a plug) < 1380580565 314294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could use the fake terminal I wrote recently, before I implemented fonts < 1380580566 889675 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds entirely normal for folsom < 1380580571 532547 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty cute < 1380580573 853080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went and rendered all characters the same way < 1380580579 634718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it was impossible to read the text at any different < 1380580584 583085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*any distance < 1380580590 901992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: on special occasions yes < 1380580595 994999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite hard to play NetHack like that, I had to go on the color < 1380580604 680260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bike to work on Folsom St. every day and I haven't seen this any other time of year... < 1380580624 84259 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1380580708 880941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat, the coop sent me membership savings coupons and 3 of them are for specific foodstuffs i actually buy regularly < 1380580715 504407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're watching you < 1380580776 656293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it's _possible_ they actually do that, although i doubt they can afford the printing of separate coupon sets for every single member < 1380580860 282201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they probably sent them on the foodstuffs that are most commonly bought < 1380580869 710866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite likely. < 1380580870 745172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :things that you buy often are probably also bought often by other people < 1380580896 353474 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380581124 711800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or wait < 1380581186 928835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it _is_ printed separately. the sheet has my name on it in two different places. < 1380581191 386947 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380581351 441089 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Not poulet, for once! < 1380581355 592517 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380581425 310446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there it says in small print that they're actually doing it < 1380581555 662918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been to DNA Lounge but I have been to DNA Pizza < 1380581558 747425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery (dis)solved < 1380581591 648930 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380581615 241642 :fizziew!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was that story about Target's automated data analysis sending ads of baby stuff to someone, and her father being all "She's still in high school, and you're sending her coupons for baby clothes and cribs? Are you trying to encourage her to get pregnant?" and it turned out his daughter was in fact pregnant, he just didn't know. < 1380581632 737652 :fizziew!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the data miners, they know. < 1380581648 230779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But it's too late. I've seen everything." < 1380581655 806256 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the pizza good < 1380581665 783080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it was a'ight < 1380581671 825927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cost way too much tho < 1380581676 399516 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1380581802 891702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: i just realized this is another proof i am old :( < 1380581820 317402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking this couldn't be possible < 1380581848 203028 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon has very much figured out what games I like < 1380581869 158828 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"new for you: etrian odyssey untold: the millenium girl, hakuoki: memories of the shinsengumi" < 1380581891 53561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: not finding out, but bothering to print and mail individual paper ads and expect to make a profit doing so < 1380581915 715804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*individualized < 1380581939 781028 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tales of xillia, shin megami tensei 4, final fantasy X/X-2 HD, pandora's tower, golden sun: dark dawn, tales of symphonia chronicles" their recommendations are scary good < 1380581963 475370 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classy taste. < 1380581971 839004 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon still thinks i really want to read Beats. < 1380581979 628059 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the top 8, like, I didn't even omit any) < 1380581986 801861 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION def looks forward to FFX HD
< 1380581994 425937 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool. it even lets you tell it what things you don't want, or already own < 1380582023 901092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tales of Xillia - Recommended because you purchased Sweet Fuse: At Your Side w/Pre order bonus - Sony PSP" // how does this work < 1380582051 930400 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "because you purchased" things probably oversimplify a lot < 1380582065 847897 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. also wow I own like 5 of the things on their recommendation list xD < 1380582078 687454 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i don't think "girly VN -> another tales of game" is too hard a conclusion!! < 1380582148 325087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to use Amazon's recommendation engine to decide what to buy a friend as a gift < 1380582151 335379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be pretty cool < 1380582153 524788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put in stuff I know they have < 1380582175 624865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could try going onto a temporary profile, and looking at all the stuff you know they have < 1380582181 419755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hoping their adverts system picks up on it < 1380582182 495356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: does it make a distinction between "i own this and i liked it" and "i own this but only because someone had the bad sense of giving it as a present"? < 1380582192 253208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could buy it all and then cancel within 30 min >_> < 1380582200 378444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizziew: are you the wchar_t version of fizzie? < 1380582207 816141 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can set it up to let other people see your recommendations and such < 1380582272 345017 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can remove something from your "owned" list if you don't want it to apply to your recommendations < 1380582278 809153 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon lets you manage everything, I think < 1380582279 664954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.amazon.com/gp/betterizer ah, hm... < 1380582330 614092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all reminding me that my Izhikevich hasn't arrived yet. you jerks. < 1380582372 47409 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds ar tonelico on the "recommendations" list and carefully throws it into an ocean trench
< 1380582401 868598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I think that would be wfizzie instead. < 1380582462 73631 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or FizzieWExLawlICantBelieveThisIsHowWindowsNamesShit on Win32. < 1380582514 96484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FizzieA and FizzieW, for the "ANSI" and "wide" fizzies. < 1380582544 977134 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm imagining disposing of some radioactive waste into a trench carefully just so that it doesn't get caught on the sid eor soething < 1380582575 231990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes the famous character encoding "ANSI" < 1380582598 175946 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380582665 670236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just call it windows-1252 < 1380582668 216136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like everyone else does < 1380582698 841332 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows has done more to hurt understanding of character sets than anything else... < 1380582723 673026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing is that on the Web you can call it "ASCII", "iso8859-1", or "latin1" and that still means Windows-1252 < 1380582726 682777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://encoding.spec.whatwg.org/ < 1380582730 280611 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, seriously, "ANSI" for legacy charsets, "OEM" for still-older legacy charsets, and "Unicode" for UTF-16LE? < 1380582761 774539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not actually UTF16 / Unicode either, right? I mean I think a lot of those APIs will do the wrong thing with surrogate code units < 1380582771 769634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Web does :( < 1380582813 499728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'FEMININE ORDINAL INDICATOR' (U+00AA) is a strangely named character < 1380582896 471612 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: yeah, what the fuck < 1380582899 409499 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why LE, especially < 1380582906 100578 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck does *anyone* do *anything* in LE < 1380582914 180530 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86. :) < 1380582921 279658 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that is not a reason < 1380582925 422650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just x86 but almost every architecture still in wide use < 1380582943 443925 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, yeah, pretty much all the BE stuff is either obscure or dead. < 1380582950 338838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cool architectures let you specify endianness per page < 1380582961 666273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is it a superscript a ? < 1380582964 781677 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1380582967 553813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: with a line under it yeah < 1380582973 62432 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I mixing up big and little again < 1380582978 633575 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember LE has that nice little bit where accessing some variable in memory gives the same value no matter the size of the data type, I think? < 1380582985 596162 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, since the low byte is always the low byte < 1380582990 283200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that fits for some romance languages, at least < 1380582993 358518 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I am < 1380582995 89883 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1380582997 182529 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE is the sane one < 1380583008 633324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah; it still seems like the wrong level on which to describe the character < 1380583012 699384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not like, a character expert < 1380583023 920566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :little endian is the correct one <_< < 1380583030 773033 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err YES THAT < 1380583031 950802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK < 1380583036 455069 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMA GO CRY NOW < 1380583039 944455 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380583042 440743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs coppro ?
< 1380583046 32089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs back
< 1380583046 315423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are very few reasons to go with either < 1380583047 846906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you of good moral character < 1380583049 290320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best part of 'endian' is the etymology. < 1380583050 449383 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: you could argue that big endian is better because you can "drop precision" < 1380583052 364887 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. < 1380583053 337435 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: who wants to know < 1380583054 421564 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: he hugged me < 1380583056 121384 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by ignoring the less significant bits < 1380583061 94067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why LE is probably a better choice because there's at least one minorish reason to go with that < 1380583073 867156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that assumes that the variable is a fixedpoint in the range 0 to 1 < 1380583074 686988 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE is better since it's what we humans use < 1380583087 670637 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: like, the dual of what you get with ignoring the rest of the bits with little endian < 1380583093 106356 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :those aren't very common, but when they are used, BE would arguably be better < 1380583098 642065 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that makes sense < 1380583100 20784 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND BY BE I MEAN LE < 1380583106 304723 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what little endian gets you is probably much more useful than that < 1380583110 864550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the question is "are you using this data type because the entire range matters", or "are you using this data type because it has sufficient range"? < 1380583138 495601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An encoder encoder's error algorithm takes a code point c and is as follows... Otherwise, if encoder's error handling mode is URL, emit byte 0x3F." < 1380583167 349556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also little endian fits the structure of how you write successor/addition/etc. stuff recursively on a list-of-bits data type >_> < 1380583175 436679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that ... an elision, or was it like that in the original quote? < 1380583179 463869 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: DoD < 1380583183 379073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but /division/ you'd do bigendianly < 1380583185 653836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an elision < 1380583189 569398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably not then < 1380583204 392906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you see http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/ < 1380583220 521215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380583221 574346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepy < 1380583263 603456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Applicant did not file his federal income tax returns in a timely manner for the tax years 2003 through 2009 nor did he pay taxes for those years. Additionally, he used marijuana from 1998 to 2008 and cocaine from 1998 to 2000. Applicant has rebutted or mitigated the security concerns under financial considerations and drug involvement. Clearance is granted. " < 1380583264 99767 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is... something, shachaf. < 1380583278 62195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two years spent doing nothing but cocaine 24/7 < 1380583343 600026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although the Applicant has been found not to be a pedophile by his treating Psychiatrist," great way to start a sentence < 1380583372 466528 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy hell < 1380583374 889315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could say that about basically anyone who has a psychiatrist < 1380583388 339433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1380583393 738939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "found not to be a pedophile" is different from "not found to be a pedophile" < 1380583401 330798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess, it's stronger < 1380583403 148804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more favourable < 1380583405 485079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh are you doing that "read things in a weird 'logical' way instead of a remotely reasonable way" thing < 1380583419 557348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a difference of kind not just of degree < 1380583427 437602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I meant logically stronger < 1380583432 713788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an affirmative action "find" versus lack of action < 1380583443 613089 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right... < 1380583447 58136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> chr $ 0x3f < 1380583447 898946 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : '?' < 1380583465 216744 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380583488 338104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"x-user-defined" best character encoding??? < 1380583503 73068 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380583516 639209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's the encoding name for "direct to character ROM"? < 1380583521 146463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1380583543 440885 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was vaguely sad to discover that Linux had decided to officially reinterpret that code as "code page 437" and not update the docs, although it made my life rather easier writing libuncursed) < 1380583629 789631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently "x-user-defined" is extended ASCII where the high-bit bytes map to the Unicode Pick Up Artist^W^W^W Private Use Area at 0xF780 < 1380583647 515327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably for lack of anything better to map them to < 1380583661 920515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok can anyone explain how to interpreted that OFTO smiley in the logs < 1380583662 726311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, dual citizens can't get security clearance in the us without relinquishing their foreign passport? < 1380583690 916331 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380583703 182405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Linux officially mapped Klingon onto the Private Use Area < 1380583712 230425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, because it got rejected by the Unicode Consortium < 1380583715 461637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah and you use it when you want to transfer binary data, because if you say "latin-1" then it's actually Windows-1252 #fml #burndowntheweb < 1380583745 918759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that application/octet-stream? < 1380583755 804902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you're transferring binary data < 1380583768 334121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not only are the characters from 0x80 upwards undefined, the characters from 0x7F downwards are too < 1380583774 999929 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe octet-stream is also an alias for Windows-1252 < 1380583775 985931 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but there's some case where one needs this < 1380583776 136917 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To be fair, there's at least a conscript registry "standardizing" the mapping of the PUA? < 1380583786 231704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I think so < 1380583792 295588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall from way back that the conlanging community tried to divide up the private use area for conlangs. don't know if that stuck. < 1380583800 859339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, the Linux kernel devs are apparently in communication with them < 1380583804 757854 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or were when they wrote the docs < 1380583808 953388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they arranged to avoid clashes < 1380583816 135421 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.evertype.com/standards/csur/ Presumably that. < 1380583846 166107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was it < 1380583867 277453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With the exception of his child support arrearage, he took no significant steps to resolve his debts until he learned [that] his debts were an impediment to obtaining a public trust position." < 1380584002 558521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was Einstein panendeist? < 1380584082 170354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_religious_views < 1380584104 744856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.waseinsteinpanendeist.com < 1380584132 454130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like german when you smoosh it all together like that < 1380584202 811526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: At least the "Einstein" part does, I suppose < 1380584225 996001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1380584264 312926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzo38%27s_religious_views < 1380584291 248860 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the "z" capitalized < 1380584306 6302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zzo%33%38 < 1380584332 759411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wikipedia always capitalizes. < 1380584342 422579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: In a Wikipedia article title it will be. < 1380584342 604979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it really < 1380584350 251723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380584359 536679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although there is a command to make it display in lowercase, the filename is capitzlied.) < 1380584363 181678 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's gotta get weird for other languages < 1380584366 89988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, filename. < 1380584386 572997 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with Einstein that "the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously". < 1380584398 907465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, the english wikipedia. there's a setting and wiktionary goes the other way. < 1380584466 310971 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, "the Bible [is] a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends". < 1380584492 348210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :honourable and/or horrifyingly fucked up < 1380584515 924485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that too I suppose < 1380584537 688067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably also "horrifyingly fucked up" < 1380584558 473285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote It is probably also "horrifyingly fucked up" < 1380584562 545168 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1113) It is probably also "horrifyingly fucked up" < 1380584744 469636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree about "His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws", but unlike Einstein I do not believe these laws to be deterministic (although I cannot be sure of this). < 1380584786 568213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was ruled by wishful thinking until someone made a really lousy wish < 1380584920 776876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sure, but I don't think so. I am thinking that things "outside of the universe" are also outside of spacetime, which also includes time. But I suppose how you say could be an analogy, because, the universe (and multiverse and whatever, if any) must be *something*, otherwise it would be nothing. You could call that a wish if you wanted to, I suppose, because there is nothing else to call it, but that doesn't make it correct. < 1380584948 663811 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a weird: my tar is reading this "Kingston elite pro 133X" CF card (over an USB 2.0 card reader) at approximately 100 kilobytes per second. < 1380584951 666892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sort of a shame, because there is 1.7 gigabytes to read. < 1380584958 731765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant what i said entirely literally. < 1380584969 302148 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 17000 seconds isn't /that/ long, is it? < 1380584975 68307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't mean i think it's true, but that's how i meant it. < 1380585007 403819 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some other book described the existence as: They didn't know if there should be something or nothing, so they toss a coin to see, but that requires that there is a coin to toss, therefore existence is necessary. This is also a kind of analogy, for the similar kind of thing, I suppose. < 1380585042 202534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sounds similar to cogito ergo sum < 1380585049 73237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 17000 seconds -> days < 1380585049 482460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It can be, if you wanted to get it done before sleeping but are very tired. (The card reader slurps at least a megabyte or two per second from the SD cards the camera uses, so I don't understand why it is being so slow.) < 1380585058 249093 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :85/432 (approx. 0.19675925925925927) < 1380585064 619425 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 17000 seconds -> hours < 1380585071 805311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :85/18 (approx. 4.722222222222222) < 1380585092 89925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, sort of like that, but that isn't really quite like what I meant, either. < 1380585331 756651 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380585466 696629 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EF69C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out