00:13:37 -!- shikhin has joined. 00:14:17 -!- azaq23 has joined. 00:17:48 -!- Ghoul__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 00:17:56 -!- AwfulProgrammer has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:25:35 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24328773 news article about hot, naked finns 00:41:28 exactly what i expected. 00:42:25 it's cool that you can get a sauna box for watching the ice hockey game 00:43:03 -!- Ghoul__ has joined. 00:57:12 -!- mnoqy has joined. 00:58:55 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:00:07 If Racket-style metaprogramming is compilation-like, and Tcl-style metaprogramming is interpretation-like, what is Ruby-style metaprogramming? 01:01:26 I don't know 01:05:08 -!- john_metcalf has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:05:14 kmc: bbc's habit of dropping all accents looks really weird when clashing with finnish vowel harmony 01:05:19 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 01:05:51 like, i _new_ loyly couldn't be correct, despite never having seen the word before. 01:06:06 *_knew_ 01:06:17 "If compilers can't understand the program, humans probably don't have a good shot either" 01:06:21 Exact quote 01:06:31 (or almost) 01:07:34 kmc: and it gets particularly ridiculous when they're making a short _dictionary_... 01:08:12 What is Forth-style metaprogramming, Unofficial-MagicKit-style metaprogramming, CLC-INTERCAL-style metaprogramming, etc? 01:10:38 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:19:39 bonghits-style metaprogramming 01:23:29 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:25:37 in http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24330722 they managed to keep an ı in kısanak but dropped a lot of other accents. 01:25:49 (also that looks like some progress) 01:27:20 maybe the policy is that they will always remove dots but never add them 01:27:41 XD 01:28:44 well sirri sakik should have had the dots dropped too, so it's simply very inconsistent. 01:31:16 (also gulten kısanak is still not _correct_, there are two other letters that _should_ have accents. and wikipedia thinks the e should be an a.) 01:32:06 my font makes ı look ugly :( 01:32:12 it should look exactly the same as i without the dot, yeah? 01:32:23 It does here. 01:33:28 does for me. 01:34:43 what about İ 01:35:15 İ and I look similar 01:35:49 Who is İ? 01:36:04 * oerjan swats shachaf -----### 01:36:26 ♥ 01:36:32 that was the only reason i came back 01:37:31 oerjan: what is it and why does it sapple 01:37:40 *SHES 01:38:07 sorry my recollection of dmm australian is weak 01:38:36 -!- ais523 has quit. 01:44:59 `addquote aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! 01:45:03 1114) aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! 01:56:58 -!- augur has joined. 02:15:11 -!- AwfulProgrammer has joined. 02:17:57 (define-syntax-rule (defer . e) 02:17:58 (defer-funcall ((λ () . e)))) 02:18:17 err, Racket? Some languages don't have lambda syntax that's so verbose people feel like reaching for macros to hide them in 02:27:06 Ok, I'll admit how the list of definitions in DrRacket knows about defines produced by macros 02:27:11 ^that that's neat 02:48:24 At least from a "that would be completely impossible in Tcl" standpoint 02:55:12 <^v> am i looking at an entire convorsation 02:55:20 <^v> because it seems you are talking to yourself 02:59:48 ^v: we get that a lot around here 03:02:54 this is nothing against oklopol's famous monologues 03:20:13 ^v: Sometimes an entire conversation does involve talking to yourself, in here, mostly in case someone else doesn't want to answer for some reason (such as not knowing the answer, or not on the IRC window) 03:24:39 There's an obvious type mismatch between Qoppa and Racket 03:24:50 Racket functions take values, Qoppa operatives take code 03:25:33 Qoppa "functions" should ideally just be operatives that eval the code they're passed, so can't just say "Only Qoppa functions may be passed to Racket code" 03:26:10 Maybe Racket values, when given to a Qoppa operative, are sort of opaque things that the only thing you can do with them is eval to get an actual value 03:47:29 those were the days 03:48:35 the days were those. 03:48:57 also i have a feeling the guy who wrote the sauna article has never even been to a finnish sauna 03:49:06 "Within seconds a wave of moist heat creeps up around your ankles and over your legs before enveloping your whole body. Your pores open up and sweat covers you from head to toe." 03:49:19 creeps up around your ankles? 03:51:55 also loyly should obviously have umlaut 04:04:36 oklopol: see further discussion about how they mangled turkish 04:06:26 perhaps i should have called them qopperatives 04:07:43 yeah i kind of guessed that you have already mentioned the loyly issue 04:08:23 http://i.imgur.com/diPCS5C.jpg 04:08:24 they could have at least written loulu 04:08:46 kmc: thanks for the nightmares 04:08:48 yw 04:09:25 http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1nhglw/test_alliance_is_disbanding/ 04:14:58 welp the US government is officially shut down 04:15:33 happy mad max day! hand over your fucking water or i'll blow your head off 04:15:49 kmc: have fun 04:16:16 Bike: well if you were in #ptopology you'd already know where I stashed the water 04:16:27 :o 04:16:34 btw the deal in exchange for me telling y'all where I put the emergency water is, you have to promise not to murder me in an apocalyptic looting-type scenario unless I've already turned into a zombie. in that case, go nuts, have fun with it 04:16:50 does "fun" include experimentation 04:17:16 zombi-curious 04:18:40 i was thinking more like, vivisection, but i'm willing to spread out. like, mentally, in addition to spreading out your orifices. 04:18:56 that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me 04:23:55 <^v> kmc is the worst person to ever live, i dont fucking care what you say but he has destroyed more peoples lives than hitler and god and godhitler combined 04:24:09 <^v> i mean 04:24:11 <^v> hi kmc 04:24:23 hi <3 04:25:03 "godhitler" are we talking about persona 2 here? 04:28:38 veni, vidi, fovit 04:28:54 <^v> no 04:29:04 <^v> we are talking about the pussy version of kmc 04:29:22 <^v> (sorry, is swearing allowed in this chan) 04:29:29 * ^v dies 04:30:01 no it fuckin ain't 04:30:05 "pussy" is kind of a shitty insult though 04:30:19 ^v: I do not think there is a rule against it, but nevertheless I advise against swearing too often that that just convolutes stuff. 04:30:20 imo the whole "calling someone the worst person to ever live for no reason" thing is the bigger issue 04:30:30 Fiora: i forget, was the hitler god or someone else 04:31:56 I don't know 04:31:57 I didn't play 2 04:32:17 uh wow i thought you were a persona authority? way to lie about your authority 04:32:17 I just know persona involves killing god and 2 has hitler somehow 04:32:22 I only know 3 and 4 >_< 04:32:28 i should mention that hitler is also your dad 04:32:30 good game imo 04:33:54 Bike: http://web.archive.org/web/20110110081155/http://overcompensating.com/posts/20080603.html 04:35:04 `pastequotes fuck 04:35:14 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17910 04:35:17 i wish i was self cleaning 04:35:24 aren't you 04:35:47 `quote 242 04:35:49 242) okay see in my head it went, you send from your other number smth like "i'd certainly like to see you in those pink panties again" and she's like "WHAT?!? Sgeo took a pic?!?!?! that FUCKING PIG" 04:35:54 pretty curious about the context of this one................ 04:36:59 There was a woman who seemed to like me but when I texted her had no idea who I was 04:37:10 Even though I had given her my number before 04:37:19 And had texted her before telling her who was texting her 04:37:32 ...that sounds creepy 04:37:39 oh :/ 04:37:46 did she have pink panties tho 04:38:05 I have no idea. 04:38:22 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20342 04:38:26 erm, wait no 04:38:56 `pastelog pink panties 04:39:22 https://www.healthcare.gov/ "just to rub it in" 04:39:36 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25271 04:41:08 http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-02-28 why is this broken 04:41:54 the formatted logs are broken. the text logs are ok. (GREGOR) 04:42:57 http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2011-02-28.txt 04:47:38 -!- Ghoul__ has changed nick to \t. 04:48:08 -!- \t has changed nick to Guest88757. 04:48:45 These Realm of Racket videos are making my eyes bleed 04:48:46 -!- Guest88757 has changed nick to Ghoul_. 04:48:59 "OOH LOOK RACKET HAS AUTOMATIC GARBAGE COLLECTION" 04:49:53 manual garbage collection 04:53:47 so how much are the rating agencies gonna downrate the USA this time 04:54:27 it's not in a debt default 04:54:38 was it the last time they did? 04:54:42 no 04:54:57 the government is no longer allowed to spend money on many things 04:55:09 it has a bunch of provisions in place for money that needs to be paid, like debts and essential services 04:55:30 this is what happened in the 90s 04:55:52 the thing that people were panicing about before and might happen again come October is the debt ceiling 04:56:11 if that gets hit, the government can no longer borrow money, and at that point it actually runs out of money and can't even spend it on essential stuff 04:56:18 on the bright side, my firefighting-for-profit business will really shine 04:56:21 oh i thought this _was_ the debt ceiling. 04:56:28 oerjan: no, it's appropriations 04:56:39 because currently the only way that the US government can work is by borrowing massive amounts of money very rapidly 04:56:44 @wn appropriations 04:56:47 No match for "appropriations". 04:56:54 NO SUCH WORD 04:56:56 oerjan: basically the authorization to spend money 04:57:00 oops. 04:57:12 put some chocolate next to my CPU 04:57:20 (next to laptop on desk) 04:57:34 http://www.usda.gov <-- alright i'm officially bugging out 04:57:37 oerjan: the authorization to spend money is the giant carrot for the administration to do what congress wants 04:58:16 Bike: very funny... hm... yeah... hm... 04:59:04 right you and your non-parliamentarism 04:59:38 oerjan: it ain't mine 04:59:44 and the Westminster system works exactly the same way 04:59:54 the debt ceiling is about paying the interest on the loans for money we've /already borrowed/ isn't it 05:00:00 except that if this were any Westminster system, the PM would have already been sent packing 05:00:03 kmc: p. much 05:00:21 anyway we could still get downrated for having fucked politics 05:00:24 that was part of the last downrating 05:00:39 kmc: yeah, and this has shown that the Dems and Reps won't compromise even when it has big consequences 05:00:45 I would not be totally surprised by a downgrade 05:00:59 but it won't be "OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK" quite yet 05:01:14 coppro: so, how likely do you think we are to deal with climate change sanely? 05:01:17 if the US hits the debt ceiling, it will be a while before it actually defaults since it can cut spending, etc. 05:01:21 Sgeo: you? 0% 05:01:24 us? 1% 05:01:51 yes let's 'compromise' with the dangerous extremists who use hostage taking as their one and only political tool 05:02:14 kmc: you're referring to the tea party, right? 05:02:17 yeah 05:02:37 the whole "both parties are at fault for not getting along" is garbage 05:03:06 Republicans don't mind wrecking the government to prove a political point 05:03:22 they believe govt is the problem and they are determined to use their position of power to prove it 05:03:44 they care more about hurting Obama and the Democrats even if they destroy the economy in the process 05:03:57 these are not people you "compromise" with 05:04:18 -!- fizzie has changed nick to fizziev. 05:04:37 ssize_t fizziev(int fd, const struct iovec *iov, int iovcnt); 05:04:46 kmc: I agree with you 05:05:02 we are basically fucked as long as the members of the 10% approval congress are still inexplicably getting reelected 05:05:02 kmc: now go fix it 05:05:58 heh usa.gov is prominently still advertising the health marketplace plan :P 05:06:17 https://www.healthcare.gov/ 05:06:41 kmc: like, seriously. Get everyone you know to get out there and get on the campaign warpath 05:07:21 and don't just complain about shit on the internets 05:07:26 Sgeo: you too 05:07:38 if you don't care, start goddamn caring 05:07:39 thx for the advice coppro 05:07:57 because your country is running itself into the fucking ground and taking the rest of us with it 05:07:59 kmc: i'm just thinking that the government might be particularly pissing off the republicans by not shutting that down 05:08:01 kmc is a coppro philiac 05:08:05 c.c 05:08:30 oerjan: The authors of obamacare did their work and made sure it was appropriated already 05:08:37 they're allowed to spend money on it 05:10:51 right, but it's still waving a red flag 05:10:56 oh sure 05:11:16 WE 05:11:30 'RE GONNA KEEP OBAMACARE GOING IF NOTHING ELSE IS 05:11:59 mad max but everyone has good hospital coverage 05:12:21 Bike: are you usaian? 05:12:33 `? bike 05:12:36 Bike is from Luxembourg. 05:12:49 * oerjan whistles innocently 05:12:54 (I refuse to call you american right now because I share a continent with you egotistical maniacs) 05:12:57 oerjan: thanks 05:12:59 -!- fizzie has joined. 05:13:07 Sgeo, kmc: this is your mess: http://www.oecd.org/media/oecdorg/satellitesites/newsroom/44222075health%20expenditure.jpg 05:13:07 a mexican, eh 05:13:13 what's mexican healthcare even like 05:13:36 coppro: i'm whistling innocently because i've never got the full impression of the truthfulness of that wisdom. 05:13:59 also bike is definitely connecting from the usa 05:14:28 Bike: probably socialist 05:14:49 anything HackEgo says is true 05:18:02 hm norway and luxembourg are the only ones with larger public expenditure, although much less private of course 05:19:59 Back during Martha Coakley's campaign, I did make some calls for her campaign 05:20:04 they just "opened" trondheim's renovated hospital (it's been running all through the rebuilding process) 05:25:18 -!- ^v has changed nick to dan200. 05:25:41 looking at raw data 05:26:02 there are only 6 OECD countries that spend more on health care per capita than the US private sector does 05:27:58 Why did the PLT team design such a .. bizarre OO system for Racket 05:32:37 -!- ^v has joined. 05:33:35 -!- dan200 has changed nick to 20WAC83QP. 05:33:35 -!- 20WAC83QP has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 05:34:29 -!- monotone has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 05:34:38 -!- monotone has joined. 05:36:12 -!- carado has joined. 05:36:47 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: why am i not in bed already). 05:51:34 kmc: http://billmoyers.com/2013/09/30/shutdown-imminent-how-he-said-she-said-reporting-helped-bring-us-to-the-brink/ nice article re: "both parties are at fault for not getting along", if you haven't seen it yet 05:52:39 i guess it's still a nice article if you have seen it. 06:15:35 Have you programmed in SNOBOL? 06:15:49 nope 06:17:12 Neither have I 06:21:28 -!- zanahoria123 has joined. 06:22:26 -!- zanahoria123 has left ("Leaving..."). 06:27:15 -!- FreeFull has quit (Quit: Sandiwch). 06:38:15 Is this OK so far? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/hwpl.txt Tell me what kind of things may be added/removed/changed/idea/question/complain. 07:07:34 The "interleave" and "select" operators of INTERCAL are built-in to HWPL (although the "interleave" operator is called MORTON). 07:09:58 -!- Taneb has joined. 07:11:17 :) 07:11:39 What about :)? 07:12:02 I'm pretty happy today 07:12:11 Is there any reason? 07:12:13 Yes 07:12:31 What reason? 07:12:31 Last night I found out that someone I met at uni has read my MSPAFA 07:12:46 What is MSPAFA? 07:13:03 MS Paint Adventures Fan Adventure 07:13:11 It's a story in the format of MSPA 07:13:16 OK 07:13:58 sounds adventurous 07:14:04 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: Leaving). 07:14:19 Also, someone's just followed me on Tumblr I think because I posted some Haskell 07:14:37 Taneb: do you follow me on twitter 07:15:36 I think so 07:16:08 oh, right 07:16:13 was it because of haskell i posted 07:16:17 give that tumblrer some haskell 07:16:24 tumblerers love haskell 07:17:58 -!- azaq23 has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 07:18:11 shachaf, no it was because you linked it once 07:18:24 oh 07:18:34 were all the tweets to your satisfaction 07:18:35 has shachaf tweeted anything yet? 07:18:50 olsner: yes (but no more than last time) 07:19:02 I don't know I haven't been on twitter in ages 07:19:07 but "@shachaf hasn't tweeted yet." 07:19:23 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 07:20:16 twitter should die already 07:20:35 olsner: it's a lie 07:20:44 olsner: i tweeted and deleted 07:21:55 if you do this, do retweets get deleted, too? 07:22:46 shachaf, how does it feel to be living in an anarchy? 07:23:12 ban anarchy 07:23:16 bananarchy 07:23:26 FOR ?A IN #16 BITS: CASE ?A: RESULT ?A[#15 TO #8]*?A[#7 TO #0]; It is a HWPL code to make a ROM of multiplication data. Is this OK like this, to you? 07:45:54 It's hard to believe that a certain individual has been in #haskell for over three years. 07:46:54 are you the certain individual? 07:47:37 No. 07:48:03 I have the individual on /ignore so I don't actually really know what they're saying. 07:48:09 Am /I/ the individual? 07:48:36 [is this the part where i pretend i didn't hear what Taneb said] 07:48:46 [yes] 07:52:27 [kind of] 07:53:11 Actually, how long have I been in #haskell 07:54:13 A little under two years? 07:55:51 Well, who knows how many nicks you had previously. 07:56:53 I think I was Taneb when I joined 07:57:34 Not Ngevd? 07:57:55 I don't think so 07:58:16 The people in #haskell actually seem to think some good will come out of this. 07:59:16 I have a poor memory for people, what's the issue? 08:00:05 People are making lots of noise so I can't sleep. 08:00:51 But in #haskell it's just general hopelessness. 08:02:57 mark my words, etc. 08:06:34 shachaf, you done much interesting lately? 08:06:57 nothing 08:07:09 the wold is emptiness and void and people WON'T BE QUIET 08:08:14 y☹s 08:12:50 nꙮ 08:15:49 ...am I the only person who understood lenses without really trying? 08:16:15 Lenses are pretty straightforward. 08:16:47 I mean specifically the van whatshisname lenses 08:16:59 However, learning about lenses does require some capacity for learning. 08:16:59 those are straightforward too 08:17:54 Actually, iirc when I first learnt lenses I was really confused and didn't know what was going on but that was with data-lens 08:19:09 didn;t data-lens use an even straightforwarder representation though 08:19:32 data-lens used s -> Store a s or something 08:19:35 Yeah 08:19:56 The store comonad coalgebra 08:54:26 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 09:01:28 I know I must understand lenses because I almost invented it independently once. 09:07:21 (I didn't quite do a good job of it though.) 09:12:09 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:15:26 -!- john_metcalf has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 10:16:36 -!- Koen_ has joined. 10:26:14 -!- carado has joined. 11:31:41 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 11:36:38 -!- S1 has joined. 11:50:25 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 12:34:06 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 12:43:36 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 12:46:17 -!- boily has joined. 12:48:25 -!- S1 has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:49:36 @messages-loud 12:49:36 You don't have any messages 13:00:16 -!- metasepia has joined. 13:07:48 -!- yorick has joined. 13:09:34 -!- Koen_ has joined. 13:12:16 good what-with-repetitive-animals-and-domain-names morning! 13:44:29 -!- Taneb has joined. 14:12:39 -!- conehead has joined. 14:15:50 -!- AwfulProgrammer has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:16:26 -!- Ghoul_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 14:16:34 -!- upgrayeddd has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:17:28 -!- ssue___ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:18:25 -!- ggherdov has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds). 14:39:54 -!- ssue___ has joined. 14:47:42 telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775 14:48:07 ↑ what is this thing I don't even holy fungot it's wonderful it has stuff and things and wooooooooah... 14:50:02 -!- ggherdov has joined. 15:06:02 boily, nice, how did you find that? 15:09:52 -!- Koen_ has quit (Quit: Koen_). 15:11:52 Vorpal: a comment under http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/09/30/asteroid-4942-munroe/ 15:11:57 -!- FreeFull has joined. 15:11:58 -!- CADD has joined. 15:39:07 -!- conehead has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 16:06:21 -!- fungot has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 16:13:33 -!- AwfulProgrammer has joined. 16:16:30 -!- Guest88757 has joined. 16:16:36 -!- upgrayeddd has joined. 16:24:55 http://www.objectiveministries.org/zounds/review-minecraft.html wat 16:30:16 https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=objective+ministries 16:32:06 -!- conehead has joined. 16:32:24 Too obvious imo 16:34:05 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 16:34:22 -!- Bike has joined. 16:34:33 Huh. I carried the about-to-be-retired webserver laptop (there's e.g. fungot on it) to the living room in preparation of starting to move things off of it, and now it no longer boots. 16:35:31 So fungot is TRAPPED IN A PORTABLE CAGE 16:35:34 Yes. 16:35:35 Perhaps you should have carried it in preparation of something less drastic. 16:35:39 does it hang in boot process or is it just dead 16:36:33 nortti: It's just dead. I suspect its the made-in-China "Replacement AC Adapter", which (IIRC) had a LED on it that no longer lights up when I plug it in the wall. 16:41:21 nortti: WUT? 16:41:34 fizzie: but, but... what are we gonna do without fungot? 16:42:05 -!- impomatic has joined. 16:43:29 boily: It is a problem, to be sure. Most of the things on that box were on an external USB drive, which I can get at easily, but fungot lived in /home and therefore is on the 2.5" (IDE) HD. And I have no idea where my 2.5"-to-3.5" IDE adapter could be. (I think I had one.) 16:46:32 can you open the USB drive and splice in the IDE HD? 16:47:23 The USB drive is actually an USB enclosure and a standard 3.5" drive. The problem is that the 2.5" interface has a different connector. 16:47:44 Maybe I should go hunt for the adapter. 16:48:09 (Also one thing on the external HD is a Cyrus IMAP two-point-something-outdated database, which I was hoping to extract by reading it over IMAP, because that wouldn't involve installing a Cyrus somewhere.) 16:48:26 drives and their all unique adapters... we need a new standard to unify all drives together! 16:49:36 (lemmings are cute critters) 16:59:42 -!- ^v has joined. 17:07:03 The adapter was: the absolute bottommost thing in the last place I had left to look at. 17:08:29 I kept finding all sorts of tangentially related things (two other 2.5" HDs, a 3.5" floppy drive along with Slackware 8.1 RC1 installation floppies, a Fast-SCSI terminator, an absolutely ridiculous pile of IDE and floppy ribbon cables) but not it. 17:25:08 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 17:31:46 "Although much of the federal workforce will go without pay, checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress. Why? The 27th Amendment prevents any Congress from changing its own pay." 17:40:17 Well, of course: the 2.5" HD does not work in the USB enclosure with the adapter. 17:40:24 (Doesn't spin up or anything.) 17:41:02 fizzie: do you have any backups? 17:42:37 Irregular ones, of this system. It's been sort of a project to get rid of it. 17:42:47 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 17:43:02 Anyway, I got it at least spin up; turns out I had an off-by-one error in the 2.5" IDE connector. 17:43:12 (It doesn't have the pin-20 "key" it's supposed to have.) 17:43:59 fungot is still salvageable! 17:45:06 I am reading data off of it at the moment. 17:45:17 (Then I need to actually do something with it.) 17:55:33 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 17:56:10 ./cfunge: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./cfunge) 17:56:13 Oh no, versions. 18:01:02 do you have the code? 18:02:00 Well, yes, it's cfunge. 18:02:12 Everyone (potentially) has the code. 18:02:30 (I guess there's the chroot patch, but I do have that too.) 18:03:20 lettuce prey for fungot's survival! 18:04:23 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 18:07:13 fizzie: perfect time to switch to CCBI2! 18:08:41 github is once again unicorning... 18:10:52 `olist (922) 18:10:53 -!- impomatic has joined. 18:10:57 olist (922): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly 18:11:01 -!- fungot has joined. 18:11:35 wb fungot 18:11:36 kmc: it means that those shifts will intrinsically be slower than readjust my brain for such rubbish, of course, i don't 18:12:07 fungot: who are you calling rubbish 18:12:07 shachaf: i'm working on that 18:12:16 fungot: How do you feel on your new host? 18:12:17 fizzie: it's not about how he use his own scheme implementation leveraging the work of a tortured mind making a single last grasp for a semblance of comforting sanity overlaid upon a fundamentally chaotic at ultimately inimical universe. 18:12:25 Sounds good. 18:12:27 ^style 18:12:27 Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube 18:13:28 Crashed :-( 18:13:28 "I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams." 18:14:21 sad mac 18:15:14 * boily hugs fungot 18:15:14 boily: riastradh i'll give it back, and if 18:16:52 Hmmm... the codu logs are still broken :-( 18:17:34 Gregor: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGS! :) 18:19:37 fungot: can I use ~duck, or am I still banned from it? 18:19:37 boily: i dont know 18:19:52 you fiendish sleazy bot. 18:19:57 -!- mnoqy has joined. 18:29:15 Blue scream of death 18:38:44 "I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams." is an error message from BeOS. 18:39:18 impomatic: you're running BeOS? what version? 18:39:36 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 18:40:58 bee os 18:41:09 Nortti: not any more. I'll get it up and running again as soon as I find a copy. 18:41:39 I missed an eBay auction recently. It went for 99p 18:42:19 -!- conehead has joined. 18:42:37 -!- zzo38 has joined. 18:42:41 -!- asie has joined. 18:43:16 hmm, I should really set up a dedicated BeOS machine 18:43:30 because the thing will simply not boot in emulator 18:43:56 does the original BeOS boot in virtualbox? 18:44:43 Have you tried Haiku? 18:45:04 yea but it requires more RAM than most of my testbeds have 18:45:15 impomatic: I just finished downloading alpha 4. 18:45:15 maybe I should start upgrading my styff 18:45:24 boily: nope 18:47:01 * impomatic has pre-ordered a Parallella. 16 core board. 18:47:47 No idea what I can do with it... 18:53:13 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has joined. 18:56:25 http://www.parallella.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/first_parallella_cluster2.jpg I like the "just stick some fans nearby" approach to cooling 18:58:24 impomatic: use genetic algorithms to evolve the ultimate brainfuck derivative? 18:58:55 1.73 megabrickbrains / second 19:00:44 I'm tempted by the cluster. But I still wouldn't know what to do with it :-) 19:01:11 You could develop and run pargot, a parallel cousin of fungot 19:01:11 FireFly: the module system 19:01:30 ...is there such a thing as a parallel -funge? 19:01:47 fungot: do you get perpendicular? 19:01:48 boily: i couldn't evaluate your expression in the second line 19:01:50 I'd probably just use it for entering contests that need a bit of brute force. E.g. Al Zimmermann's programming contests. 19:01:57 fungot: there are no second line! 19:01:57 boily: if i send this patch? ( 1/ 3 1/ 3)) ( 3 4) 19:01:59 fungot: what are you all about 19:01:59 shachaf: ( use srfi-1) is fnord formal semantics?) 19:02:11 fungot: learn to parentheses hth 19:02:11 shachaf: or two instances of any scheme. :) hehe, doesn't seem like that to assemble... i'm still just barely coming to grips with the task of preparing a meal that acquires a taste beyond the sum of the rest 19:02:37 Is fungot skynet? 19:02:38 preparing a meal that acquires a taste beyond the sum of the rest 19:02:38 FireFly: i like the algorithm and have it out with different variations were. 19:02:40 very ambitious 19:02:46 I agree 19:03:17 imo fungot can do it 19:03:17 shachaf: i guess you don't get into specific trouble you'll run into performance issues with sisc, they work on states, using compact bit arrays and copying them will always keep us in second place next to obl 19:06:00 so compact bit arrays are the key to cooking a Beyond the Sum Meal. 19:08:28 -!- nisstyre has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:08:34 -!- Nisstyre-laptop has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:10:17 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 19:10:36 Sum Meals.. are they related to monad burritos? 19:11:24 is a monad burrito like a burrito burrito? 19:11:50 burrito burrito buffalo buffalo buffalo. 19:11:52 * impomatic is searching for files which seem to have disappeared from the net :-( 19:12:31 kmc: did you know that monads are just free monad monad monad algebras 19:13:00 no 19:13:21 `? monad monad 19:13:24 monad monad? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 19:16:50 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Not free... 19:42:28 -!- CADD has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 19:43:00 -!- fizziew has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:44:16 -!- ski has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 19:48:31 nice, sending a packet with an unexpected IP crashes qemu with an assertion failure 19:50:57 -!- fizziew has joined. 19:51:09 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:52:03 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 20:03:21 -!- ski has joined. 20:05:06 -!- Zuu has joined. 20:08:43 -!- fizzie has quit (Changing host). 20:08:43 -!- fizzie has joined. 20:08:44 -!- atehwa has joined. 20:17:31 olsner: what qualifies as an unexpected IP? 20:17:42 boily: 0, I think 20:17:59 apparently 20:19:03 I am indeed surprised. 20:19:56 Addendum [SCP-294ad]: Researcher produced request consisting solely of the phrase "surprise me". Device produced a opaque cup containing normal water, later determined to have been heated to approximately 200 degrees Celsius. Upon receiving vibration from transport, the contents of the cup turned into steam, violently spraying boiling water in a 2-meter radius. 20:19:58 -!- myndzl has quit (Quit: .). 20:19:58 -!- lambdabot has joined. 20:20:09 hellambdabo 20:20:24 -!- myndzi has joined. 20:35:44 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:44:51 use super::super::longhands; 20:48:01 fungot: is it better to use simple gotos for clearer logic or complicate while type structures? 20:48:01 olsner: fnord sent me their cd suite with all their laziness) but couldn't get what i mean 20:52:23 olsner: cleaner logic prevails. 20:52:36 (althought a nice monad is best, imho.) 20:55:28 -!- Bike has joined. 21:02:48 -!- nisstyre has joined. 21:02:48 -!- AnotherTest has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:04:21 kmc: what's a good naming scheme for lenses onto one or more values, zero or one values, zero or more values 21:14:48 -!- Guest88757 has changed nick to Ghoul_. 21:15:24 -!- Ghoul_ has changed nick to Ghoul__. 21:15:50 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 21:25:23 -!- augur has joined. 21:29:13 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:38:50 -!- boily has quit (Quit: Still not poulet.). 21:38:51 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:41:46 "unbounded adversary" is the name of kmc's new band 21:42:46 yes 21:43:39 need to book flights to korea 21:44:24 which passenger equivalence class will you be in 21:44:55 the worst one :'( 21:48:39 `olist 21:48:41 olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly 21:48:58 I already `olisted! 21:49:04 Should we add you to the `olist so you get notified? 21:49:14 ais523: i think it was already done, also we customarily include the number these days. 21:49:21 right 21:49:33 Yes you should include the number 21:49:33 shachaf: no, because I typically check OOTS before I check #esoteric 21:49:49 But what if you're in #esoteric and it beeps your name? 21:49:53 Then you'd know straight away. 21:49:55 Perhaps those list scripts should check the number and only ping the nicks if the number is greater than the previous number? 21:50:18 shachaf: yeah but statistically, considering the proportion of the time I'm online, if anyone else olists I've probably already seen it 21:50:32 fizzie: and the nicks in question were online at the time? 21:50:39 fizzie: No I don't think that will be necessary, and it might not work correctly anyways due to various reasons. 21:50:40 Perhaps! 21:50:50 (What's one extra filesystem commit for every Xlist between friends?) 21:51:50 being on the same list doesn't mean that you're friends 21:51:56 you might be enemies 21:52:00 fizzie: just make it only ping people who are online at the time, and check logs to see who it's already pinged 21:54:43 I do not think that is necessary; it complicates things that don't need to be. 21:57:45 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:57:51 https://twitter.com/neilfws/status/385161327422885888/photo/1 forgot this site was us gov't >_> 22:08:28 i agree with zzo38. unless you want to implement it properly. and on this channel "online" doesn't mean "actually present and will see this before pinging out". 22:09:18 *and/or 22:12:13 `ord |-|| | 22:12:15 124 45 124 124 32 124 22:12:25 wat 22:12:40 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 22:14:25 apparently | will show up as | in tables under some conditions, which the Pointy article works with 22:16:12 `ord | | 22:16:14 124 32 124 22:17:07 olsner: i was checking of those were actually the same character 22:17:41 oerjan: looks like they were, hthth 22:21:41 tdhdh 22:22:49 * oerjan suddenly wonders if he can say eighth 22:23:04 seems so 22:26:16 -!- mnoqy has joined. 22:31:56 Tefaj: gnineve derorrim doog 22:32:40 `? gnimmargorp 22:32:42 gnimmargorp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:32:54 wat 22:33:28 oh 22:33:30 did i misspell it or did someone delete it :( 22:33:45 `run echo programming | tac | ? 22:33:47 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:33:55 `run echo programming | tac - | ? 22:33:57 ​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:34:00 ok. 22:34:05 `run echo programming | tac 22:34:07 programming 22:34:20 you want rev not tax 22:34:23 *tac 22:34:39 `run echo programming | reev 22:34:41 bash: reev: command not found 22:34:41 `run echo programming | rev 22:34:43 gnimmargorp 22:34:44 and also to understand the difference between stdio and argv 22:34:51 yes i got that much 22:35:00 lousy unix philosophy grumble grumble 22:35:13 `run ls wisdom/*gorp 22:35:15 wisdom/grimmargorp 22:35:23 fantastic 22:35:27 programmirg. sensible. 22:35:29 `? grimmargorp 22:35:31 ​Þór, Grimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg! 22:35:39 heh nice 22:35:54 wtf did it get entered like that. maybe someone actually misspelled it first. 22:36:14 (i know i entered it. minus some later correction.) 22:36:18 that's presumably a joke based on gnimmargorp looking like old germanic, rather than a replacement 22:36:19 `run echo programming | rev | xargs ? 22:36:21 gnimmargorp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ 22:36:33 Bike: yes. 22:36:40 yes 22:37:07 well, *old norse 22:37:22 `pastelog grimmargorp 22:37:39 also the spelling is icelandic, not genuine old norse. 22:37:43 hi 22:37:45 Grimmargorpurinn sounds like an Icelandic volcano 22:38:06 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10185 22:39:01 (e.g. old norse didn't use ö but ǫ) 22:39:04 I'm going to forget all about grimmargorpurinn all too soon <-- prophetic words 22:39:29 `pastelog gnimmargorp 22:39:46 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20742 22:40:19 That's... disappointing 22:40:20 i suspect i may have introduced the error. 22:40:49 `pastelogs g.immargorp 22:41:22 http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14333 22:42:45 yep, only one thing to do 22:43:24 `run sed 's/rimmar/nimmar/' wisdom/grimmargorp >wisdom/gnimmargorp 22:43:28 No output. 22:43:36 `? gnimmargorp 22:43:38 ​Þór, Gnimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg! 22:44:51 gnimmargorp doesn't sound as good :( 22:45:15 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:45:22 olsner: thus why i didn't delete the old one 22:45:45 *phew* 22:46:25 maybe gnimmargorp ought just be "common misspelling of the Grimmargorp" 22:48:20 did you know that google translate doesn't know how to translate "misspelling" into icelandic. 22:51:26 I did not! that's a fun fact 22:59:53 Ogrimmar is some kind of a WoW thing. 23:01:39 `run echo '"Gnimmargorp" er algeng stafsetningarvilla af "grimmargorp"' >wisdom/gnimmargorp 23:01:44 No output. 23:01:51 `run echo '"Gnimmargorp" er algeng stafsetningarvilla af "grimmargorp".' >wisdom/gnimmargorp 23:01:55 No output. 23:02:36 stafsetningarvilla? why does the mis end up on the other side of spelling? 23:02:47 "spelling error" 23:03:37 also i'm not sure about the preposition "af". 23:04:10 i found an instance of that use, but norwegian would use "for" in a similar position. 23:05:22 swedish would also use "av" I think 23:05:56 stavfel av? 23:06:28 how the hell does rustc decide what match blocks are non-exhaustive and what not? 23:06:44 anyway, there are few hits in either case but more for "af" than for "fyrir", although maybe i've misunderstood what icelandic uses for "for". 23:08:35 hmm, "felstavning av" ... feels like stavfel doesn't take an object, it's more like "a spelling mistake" perhaps 23:08:55 oh hm 23:09:17 yes, in that case norwegian would also use "av" 23:20:59 i want to create wisdom/nutirrof but it's too meta even for me. 23:21:18 nutirrof? 23:21:45 i suggest meta-lateral thinking to understand that 23:22:29 oerjan: can we have a new featured language. 23:22:46 i'm sure that's entirely possible. 23:22:55 ais523: ahem. 23:23:00 meta-lateral sounds like complicated thinking... I'm not even good at normal lateral thinking 23:23:33 olsner: it's related to grimmargorp. 23:23:40 hm maybe it should be rutirrof. 23:23:42 elliott: if you pick one I'll write a blurb for it 23:24:50 ais523: how about brainfuck? might as well get it out the way with 23:24:59 OK 23:25:17 -!- azaq23 has joined. 23:26:07 how does an april fool's joke last until October anyway? 23:26:53 hey it's just half a year 23:27:25 hmm, I'm going to have to word this so that the b isn't at the start of a sentence 23:27:42 -!- augur has joined. 23:28:47 * oerjan hugs fungot 23:28:47 oerjan: if you come across as a fascist would do that 23:29:01 fascists were big on hugs? 23:29:32 indubitably 23:30:08 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 23:33:16 elliott: there, I've updated the main page blurb 23:33:19 can you do the rest? 23:34:08 fungot: i like hugs, am i a fascist 23:34:08 shachaf: i'm installing 1.5 now 23:34:19 uh oh, fungot 1.5. that sounds bad. 23:34:19 shachaf: thanks for the help! 23:34:39 fungot: i ain't helping you 23:34:40 shachaf: that is, a socket may be simultaneously used in multiple places. that kind of coin... well, i just wrote 23:35:06 ais523: ok 23:35:24 ais523: nice capitalisation trick :) 23:35:47 elliott: yeah, I had to contort a bit to pull that off, but we can't have controversial capitalization on the main page 23:37:32 shachaf, doesn't hugs not even have typeclasses 23:37:56 Phantom_Hoover: no, it doesn't not even have type classes (nor typeclasses) 23:38:36 what kind of shit isn't even not this isn't 23:42:16 -!- Zuu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 23:48:38 -!- Zuu has joined. 23:51:54 Phantom_Hoover: hugs descends from the first haskell implementation to have constructor type classes (i.e. not just kind * types) 23:52:10 iirc 23:53:44 this makes sense to me 23:56:32 -!- azaq231 has joined. 23:58:51 -!- azaq23 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds).