< 1380846178 864458 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380847097 101637 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380847877 178774 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380847984 231639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380848195 719804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380848758 854134 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380848931 290396 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380849588 552056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow we have a fizzie, a fizziev, and a fizziew < 1380849631 885250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are fizzievp and fizzievpe next < 1380849643 987051 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an abundance of fizzie entities < 1380849961 869348 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380850069 645489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next will be the outsourced cnzzie version. < 1380850917 761218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's non-union Canadian equivalent? < 1380850925 367225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, Chinese < 1380851111 409854 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no uszzie? poor us :( < 1380851165 213084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about suzzie < 1380851224 847455 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the root of all fizzies? < 1380851245 234768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suzzie disappeared back in the early nineties. < 1380851339 398687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any good alternate history fiction where the soviet union survives into the Internet age < 1380851735 726492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suzzie q, i love you, suzzie q < 1380851763 822253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the soviet union _did_ survive into the Internet age. < 1380851765 475996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, it's called "modern china" < 1380851782 90180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it collapsed within months of eternal september. < 1380851804 490060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm (conveniently) defining "Internet age" as a time when the Internet is a pervasive part of everday life for a substantial fraction of all people < 1380851821 96505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how silly < 1380851826 980798 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380852134 201257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm funny today is the anniversary of the end of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis < 1380852156 379024 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380852182 349390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always confuse that with the 1991 thing, because i'm dumb < 1380852216 64246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was briefly wondering if quintopia had done so < 1380852249 486587 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because i'm dumb" :D < 1380852259 351410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks myname?? < 1380852260 632116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that's not how i found it, it's on wikipedia's On this day...) < 1380852346 30900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 56 years since sputnik < 1380853920 860106 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, kmc, I wanted to ask your opinion about an article? < 1380853957 843060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380853959 606778 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eighty-twenty.org/index.cgi/tech/scheme/fexprs-remain-inscrutable-20110929.html < 1380854011 947463 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Calling Kernel's Fexprs "trivial" doesn't seem quite right to me; perhaps calling them "inscrutable" would be a better fit.» uh? < 1380854075 497303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :point 1 is obvious, point 3 is interesting (saying that what should be an implementation detail of higher-order functions can get exposed) < 1380854112 188799 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I take back point 1 being obvious. Just its conclusions about compilability < 1380854128 639699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :point 3 is mentioned in shutt's thesis, he cites some paper that mentioned basically the same problem in the 80s < 1380854218 597793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can dealwith it somewhat with ($define call (c . args) (apply c args)) and then using (call f ...) instead of (f ...) < 1380854228 610456 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems with this left as an exercise to the chatter < 1380854689 421581 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how you guys make more serious discussions about programming and the theory behind it than every other channel i know < 1380854694 322556 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else think it's crazy that "feedback" didn't exist as a concept before like a hundred years ago < 1380855313 338121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Concurrent ML any good? Reason I ask is I think Racket is sucking CML's di.. concurrency mechanisms < 1380855321 149870 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380855374 212699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one suck a concurrency mechanism < 1380855436 720124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of spit < 1380855682 268069 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380855812 502717 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1380855838 499464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1380855912 537362 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I meant Hi. < 1380856005 99681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE JWinslow23 | rev | rainwords < 1380856008 700250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4).tEn.lAd.cRi 7nO 8CiReToSe# 9YrT 2,aCiReToSe 13fO 6DnIk 4rEhTo 7eHt 8rOf( 9.eGaP_NiAm/iKiW/GrO.SgNaLoSe//:pTtH 2:iKiW 13RuO 6TuO 4KcEhC 7,nOiTaMrOfNi 8eRoM 9RoF 2!tNeMyOlPeD 13DnA 6NgIsEd 4eGaUgNaL 7GnImMaRgOrP 8CiReToSe 9rOf 2bUh 13lAnOiTaNrEtNi 6eHt 4oT 7EmOcLeW 8:32wOlSnIwJ < 1380856014 560000 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still stuck on commands for my Tic-Tac-Toe esolang. Can you help? < 1380856067 813582 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380856078 424363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect this esolang will come to nought. just cross it out. < 1380856090 328656 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should a command be? a move? a board? a full board? < 1380856141 529327 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking a move. But for that to work, we would need different commands on each space for each round. < 1380856160 761003 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we don't want repeats. < 1380856179 48438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do nim sums of tic-tac-toe games. < 1380856195 429455 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE EgoBot | rainwords < 1380856198 564480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9EgObOt: 2WeLcOmE 13To 6tHe 4iNtErNaTiOnAl 7hUb 8fOr 9eSoTeRiC 2PrOgRaMmInG 13LaNgUaGe 6dEsIgN 4AnD 7DePlOyMeNt! 8FoR 9MoRe 2iNfOrMaTiOn, 13ChEcK 6OuT 4OuR 7WiKi: 8HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. 9(fOr 2tHe 13oThEr 6kInD 4Of 7eSoTeRiCa, 8TrY 9#eSoTeRiC 2On 13iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380856268 959953 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what are nim ums? < 1380856283 266883 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sums! Damn you auto correct! :) < 1380856329 612106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim < 1380856404 185055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nim sum of two games is where a player can choose which of the games to play at each step. < 1380856455 632825 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explanation was...confusing. < 1380856486 627222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380856491 742976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it works best for games where there is no difference between the two players. < 1380856499 281601 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380856509 624581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially games resembling nim. < 1380856566 641029 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every impartial game is equivalent to a nim heap of a certain size (Sprague-Grundy thm) < 1380856593 770195 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how big would they be? < 1380856595 802057 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the idea of a tic tac toe esolang could be simpler than that < 1380856610 927504 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should. < 1380856642 745989 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380856643 123915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380856688 411306 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is hackego secured? < 1380856718 236406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: the size of the nim heap is less than the max number of moves remaining, i think. < 1380856747 769296 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: lots of ways. < 1380856757 258349 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380856777 126607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it runs in an umlbox sandbox, for a start. < 1380856778 87972 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry I was out. Wha were we saying about my idea? < 1380856869 870337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually have an idea about a tic-tac-toe esolang that would be interesting in the way i think of as interesting (i.e. with the tic-tac-toe tied to the _semantics_ of the esolang, rather than just its encoding or syntax). < 1380856905 240999 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380856921 847836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, which would be able to write interesting programs in that semantics. < 1380856923 763773 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we could do something like COBOL! (No, not that one.) < 1380856966 323748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you had generalized tic tac toe, and a program was a starting position. then the action of the program is somehow encoded in the perfect play after that position. < 1380857002 13757 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: way too short imho < 1380857015 303371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1380857031 206741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did say generalized, i assume that means unbounded board < 1380857036 238012 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380857045 304505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the name has to do with cheese and crackers, because pajama sam is my hero. < 1380857066 155248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay. < 1380857191 240920 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380857214 937175 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't make the rules, oerjan; i just enforce them. and the rule here is clear. < 1380857222 910293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1380858089 15447 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380858091 91577 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380858115 855160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should find a UML 0-day < 1380858129 179783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, maybe buy one, gotta be cheap < 1380858229 253783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380859240 64161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :htf is it 6am already < 1380859270 563027 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bit unfamiliar with the lack of hths here < 1380859270 931364 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380859400 891112 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1380860208 137856 :fizziev!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380860245 789617 :fizziew!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380861303 666983 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: . < 1380861370 98351 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1380862298 386495 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood < 1380862348 970945 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380862895 844418 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380863771 826087 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380864249 141201 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380866906 8219 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380867208 332895 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380868006 597556 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Dodo, I miss you < 1380868191 825616 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111116 < 1380868333 673868 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380868714 141085 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380868843 562731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380869104 907331 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380869449 592438 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380869520 845908 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380869570 537879 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist happenings including the law against a controlled rage, and a hopeful fork < 1380869574 869405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist happenings including the law against a controlled rage, and a hopeful fork: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380870962 626099 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380871125 369844 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380873092 208110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380873555 187015 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380874031 757216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, talking about C corner cases, here's one I found in mingw, and now I don't know whether it's correct or not < 1380874037 468260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define STIRINGIFY(x) #x < 1380874054 479519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) {puts(STRINGIFY(a\r)); return 0;} < 1380874065 935954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mingw, it prints "a" then a carriage return < 1380874094 106349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, backslashes are escaped correctly if they appeared in any context that would be syntactically legal if it weren't a macro argument… < 1380874223 441341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874237 411752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380874312 604804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tunes.org/~ < 1380874325 352503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that the "past" is needed atm...) < 1380874345 442474 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380874378 821980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874385 581889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380874392 728258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tunes.org/~ < 1380874409 444451 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-04-29.txt:18:42:07: -!- ihope_ has quit ("http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09"). < 1380874567 271388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | this space intentionally left right < 1380874839 883077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874852 141350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380875538 571737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380875550 208073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380876342 208742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380876366 7405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380876981 618266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380876999 890454 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877043 9880 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380877052 146241 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877062 969173 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877147 237788 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380877953 725149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380879705 245554 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380881098 253962 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380881119 140721 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, Ubuntu's login prompt is really really dangerous from a security point of view < 1380881131 963188 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prefills the username and asks you to type the password < 1380881161 843464 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you get into the habit of just writing the password without the username first, meaning you can accidentally type it into an echoing field whenever you use a different system < 1380881226 910681 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting idea < 1380882377 898254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, thus rendering you vulnerable to people-staring-over-your-shoulder attacks < 1380882404 89226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget vnc and webcams < 1380882619 255304 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380882787 518610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of webcam is pointed at your own screen < 1380882826 781778 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one of the hackers, obviously < 1380883234 229809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: reflections in your eye. < 1380883258 181373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You just rectangle-select it and say "enhance".) < 1380883287 667122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAAAAAAAAAH < 1380883336 933909 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that's why I always squint when typing my password in < 1380883368 641196 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you could use text-mode login that doesm't display anything when writing pass < 1380883406 843789 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380883410 892252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written my password on the input line of this IRC client due to "I'm sure this computer is xlock'd but I don't want to bother waiting for the screen to wake up before typing in the password". (Though I take care to not press enter before actually seeing the dialog.) < 1380883426 539816 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if you accidentally type it as username? < 1380883963 885091 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380884307 436447 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380884478 335118 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380886082 216074 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886184 673541 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886468 421143 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380886513 210623 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886521 577669 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886900 10129 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380887045 653153 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380887179 866748 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380887561 424645 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380888316 174220 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1380888318 609437 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380888324 279319 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm laughing at my own joke and I can't stop < 1380888331 46632 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens < 1380888338 417640 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds funny < 1380888341 808085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind sharing? < 1380888359 602195 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted on Facebook, "yay making friends" < 1380888379 742084 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I replied, "Making friends is the best.", followed by, "The only bit I find difficult is attaching the arms." < 1380888441 415241 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that almost makes me wish I had a facebook account < 1380888470 660811 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380888487 13259 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite though < 1380888502 705881 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not funny enough to motivate getting an account < 1380888542 454913 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, a joke would have to be pretty dang funny to motivate such a horrible thing wouldn't it < 1380888967 782076 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380889183 995126 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380889481 291987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380889783 525937 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380890297 22545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380890751 303894 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380890810 295093 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to double a cube with the power of origami? < 1380890970 129273 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently so < 1380891003 220333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know < 1380891012 794036 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380891118 582333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double the cube, double the fun. < 1380891622 157006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380891704 127503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892202 503095 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892219 827635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380892308 944921 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380892313 734753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892389 921384 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892472 265623 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380892860 128025 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380892991 553718 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380893129 123029 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380894247 472466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sorry-for-the-sudden-metar morning! < 1380894250 163956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1380894250 766926 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 041300Z 05013KT 30SM BKN080 BKN210 15/08 A3014 RMK AC6CI1 SLP205 < 1380894373 542162 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380894862 808958 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380895111 865162 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380895158 385822 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380895999 675715 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896020 605766 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896094 910484 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Excess Flood < 1380896109 345808 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896129 25978 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380896152 757201 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896235 210059 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896255 876162 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896325 103184 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380896348 597132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from now on, I have glorious blue cherries under my fingers :D < 1380896791 336860 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896911 130841 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380897330 168406 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380898064 547808 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380898096 879307 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898112 319200 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898273 411603 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380898450 892605 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380898480 648982 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898894 339487 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898941 455202 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Happy CB Radio Day! < 1380898945 654918 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​193 ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++>++>+++++<<<<-]>>++.<-.+++++++++++++++..+++++++++.>>++++.>---.-.<.<++++++++++.+++++++++++++++.+++.+++++.++++++.>.>++.<<--------------.<.>>+.-----------------------. [148] < 1380898981 195889 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380899037 563072 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: CB radio day? < 1380899046 58958 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10-4? < 1380899050 164238 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380899051 239165 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1380899073 35921 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the time is also 10-4! < 1380899081 133488 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1380899082 394935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime JWinslow23 < 1380899083 248233 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for JWinslow23 is Fri Oct 04 10:04:42 2013 < 1380899085 875132 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where be you? < 1380899087 210470 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 10:04 < 1380899097 169273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: can I ask him the The Question? < 1380899103 699999 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: go ahead < 1380899104 401973 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Question? < 1380899116 73312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: what are your approximate cördinates, and body weigh? < 1380899122 384230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. missed a o. < 1380899128 322130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coördinates, says I. < 1380899136 675162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still need to get used to that shiny keyboard.) < 1380899138 89233 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, but somewhere in Wisconsin. I weigh about 110 pounds. < 1380899144 18061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1380899222 505634 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you a CB radio user? < 1380899244 8259 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I always her 10-4 on walkie talkies. < 1380899264 49320 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hear! DYAC! < 1380899278 94611 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang you auto correct! < 1380899284 218203 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on phone? < 1380899302 373937 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use walkie-talkies. Not cell phones. < 1380899306 227604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380899311 134690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380899337 116787 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean are you using IRC on a phone < 1380899352 328747 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, on a school computer. < 1380899367 308935 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :school computer has autocorrect? O_o < 1380899377 714708 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run Welcome RaidoUsers < 1380899383 380206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: Welcome: command not found < 1380899395 889764 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE RadioUsers < 1380899400 709377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :RaDiOuSeRs: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380899435 513259 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380899448 960868 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380899589 821654 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :School computer has no autocorrect, I just joked about that. < 1380899600 149083 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honest mistake! < 1380899689 628411 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1380899713 975583 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have an idea for my Tic-Tac-Toe language. < 1380899715 462152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you stealth quoted me 4 days ago! < 1380899715 607947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380899726 965884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: is it recursive? < 1380899729 936597 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1380899730 193213 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1380899734 959014 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1380899735 104938 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1380899741 20330 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1380899741 165864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap < 1380899741 166058 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1380899772 250187 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boily: I don't THINK so. < 1380899784 779397 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The center square and winning move are NOPs. < 1380899795 994972 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All other squares are commands. < 1380899802 1601 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still figuring out that they are. < 1380899810 626583 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want another BF derivative! < 1380899825 131229 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I meant "what they are". < 1380900664 528618 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help poll < 1380900664 666935 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll provides: poll-list poll-show poll-add choice-add vote poll-result poll-close poll-remove < 1380900683 642305 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help poll-add < 1380900684 77357 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll-add Adds a new poll, with no candidates < 1380900705 699732 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-add Should I go on with my Tic Tac Toe idea? < 1380900706 74647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: @poll-add with "ThisTopic" style names < 1380900722 226280 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea < 1380900722 371784 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added new poll: "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea" < 1380900731 994603 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help choice-add < 1380900732 140692 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice-add Adds a new choice to the given poll < 1380900749 392770 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea Yes < 1380900749 538231 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "Yes", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900757 650854 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea No < 1380900757 796221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "No", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900771 681633 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea Maybe? < 1380900771 909605 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "Maybe?", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900781 227657 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help vote < 1380900781 403241 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote Vote for in < 1380900875 211781 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380900893 894020 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE conehead | rainwords < 1380900897 341391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​7CoNeHeAd: 8WeLcOmE 9To 2tHe 13iNtErNaTiOnAl 6hUb 4fOr 7eSoTeRiC 8PrOgRaMmInG 9LaNgUaGe 2dEsIgN 13AnD 6DePlOyMeNt! 4FoR 7MoRe 8iNfOrMaTiOn, 9ChEcK 2OuT 13OuR 6WiKi: 4HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. 7(fOr 8tHe 9oThEr 2kInD 13Of 6eSoTeRiCa, 4TrY 7#eSoTeRiC 8On 9iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380900929 454863 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear lord this is the best welcome to date < 1380900992 141314 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380901027 887522 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380901225 343623 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380901285 896951 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380901288 297667 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1380901294 23893 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good welcome. < 1380901311 807328 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380901417 321598 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1380901422 957371 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got three welcomes, and that wasn't one. < 1380901424 210285 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sobs. < 1380901460 355261 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | rainwords < 1380901463 554775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9ShIkHiN: 2wElCoMe 13tO 6ThE 4InTeRnAtIoNaL 7HuB 8FoR 9EsOtErIc 2pRoGrAmMiNg 13lAnGuAgE 6DeSiGn 4aNd 7dEpLoYmEnT! 8fOr 9mOrE 2InFoRmAtIoN, 13cHeCk 6oUt 4oUr 7wIkI: 8hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 9(FoR 2ThE 13OtHeR 6KiNd 4oF 7EsOtErIcA, 8tRy 9#EsOtErIc 2oN 13IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901468 289105 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayy! < 1380901474 853411 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | rainwords | tac < 1380901477 868192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ 7ShIkHiN: 8wElCoMe 9tO 2ThE 13InTeRnAtIoNaL 6HuB 4FoR 7EsOtErIc 8pRoGrAmMiNg 9lAnGuAgE 2DeSiGn 13aNd 6dEpLoYmEnT! 4fOr 7mOrE 8InFoRmAtIoN, 9cHeCk 2oUt 13oUr 6wIkI: 4hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 7(FoR 8ThE 9OtHeR 2KiNd 13oF 6EsOtErIcA, 4tRy 7#EsOtErIc 8oN 9IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901497 199378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | tac | rainwords < 1380901500 653923 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 6ShIkHiN: 4wElCoMe 7tO 8ThE 9InTeRnAtIoNaL 2HuB 13FoR 6EsOtErIc 4pRoGrAmMiNg 7lAnGuAgE 8DeSiGn 9aNd 2dEpLoYmEnT! 13fOr 6mOrE 4InFoRmAtIoN, 7cHeCk 8oUt 9oUr 2wIkI: 13hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 6(FoR 4ThE 7OtHeR 8KiNd 9oF 2EsOtErIcA, 13tRy 6#EsOtErIc 4oN 7IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901524 320763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks tac in the... hmm... does a unix command have reproduction organs? < 1380901536 712106 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, stdrepro < 1380901605 542534 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/WeLcOmE < 1380901608 956333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/WeLcOmE < 1380901683 458089 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting. still written in py < 1380901703 539019 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though someone would've rewritten it in perl by now < 1380901773 882658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a python interpreter written in perl. < 1380901820 80616 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not gonna do that < 1380901829 6808 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not over hackego < 1380902211 885014 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380902219 328822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yield to the Asinine and Useless side of the Programming. let free your sanity inhibitions! < 1380902336 308435 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380902343 771358 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sanity inhobitions I've let free when I wrote python program that had no statements, only expressions < 1380902368 282139 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but writing a perl program over hackego would just be too much of a pita < 1380902389 341451 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless I figure out how to nicely simulate ed, that is < 1380902409 623252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you know what to do. let the yaks roam and be shaved! < 1380902462 382146 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I do < 1380902475 44933 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd just not scale to multi-user < 1380902620 179582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380903123 139033 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380903568 803209 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scapegoat < 1380903570 801995 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :scapegoat? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380903596 853574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the @ of version control < 1380904115 359006 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380904119 739663 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380904586 739481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380906109 613484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1380906692 124108 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380907267 25223 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380907595 731152 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380907994 774346 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380908046 752689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380908051 55986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dill < 1380908127 545018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's too dilly. < 1380908133 694913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 1 < 1380908135 976090 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahananne < 1380908147 77490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --estonian < 1380908148 909410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: estonian < 1380908160 239047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --list < 1380908162 965771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1380908181 460502 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs < 1380908183 469176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sartre < 1380908187 349725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380908194 254725 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380908196 602503 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380908205 3084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --swedish --finnish 10 # let's get some of that Swedo-Finnish stuff going < 1380908207 401568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :telsertapa sellistenemanan banansarskeiskys fixeri aukebatalat konaivuamiintron asigniner tempiltimurkes vacks sum < 1380908256 324093 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that like run a markov thingy on a mix of swedish and finnish data? < 1380908326 620980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380908349 259098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a character... trigram? 4-gram? Something like that, I forget exactly. < 1380908356 170851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you specify multiple options, it just interpolates. < 1380908376 785518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, sums the frequencies.) < 1380908394 981532 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, ogerman is probably o-german, not oger-man < 1380908450 274263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it weighted by the size of the input sets? I imagine --esolangs --x would not be very esolangy otherwise < 1380908478 235746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think all the models are normalized, but not sure. < 1380908509 64732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M --esolangs 15 < 1380908513 676958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :whailyletornentallyido ado dup lazzo ora son guo wierding befear sho affic miscudal yllangi abn evill < 1380908528 851370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not conclusive, but it looks quite esolangy. < 1380908547 265718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And whailyletornentallyido is probably quite a nice language.) < 1380908619 868823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup is an esolang, isn't it? and befear is probably from befunge +/- some letters < 1380908749 425306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dupdog is. Apparently DUP is, too. < 1380908749 923547 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1380908813 203514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of expecting befear to actually exist, but seems that there's just Befreak. < 1380908869 495112 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :begrunge, a nirvana-based esolang < 1380909182 643727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begrudge, a language where the implementation runs your program but isn't happy about it at all. < 1380909399 251148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a little like INTERCAL < 1380909489 16108 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380909639 671775 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380909657 855462 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380909928 358758 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380909942 171949 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380910106 248115 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380910627 905139 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1380910637 799594 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get to the semifinal without actually winning a match < 1380910717 423826 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what competition? < 1380910726 921632 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380910798 598734 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: writing an AI for a Battleships-like game to run on a RaspberryPi < 1380910806 252375 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380910868 330976 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost actually got to the final without winning a match < 1380910874 59989 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1380910888 337510 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opponent almost got disqualified for misentering twice < 1380910900 918016 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380910907 17216 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saved him out of the kindness in my heart < 1380910929 784494 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fact that if I managed to get to the final without winning I'd feel really unfulfilled < 1380911437 587333 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380911573 495757 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, oi, start a succession fort < 1380911618 621055 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I can't right now on account of the only computer I have access to which I am willing to install software on is a Raspberry Pi < 1380911629 361506 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And tomorrow is Freshers' Fair < 1380911633 540157 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe tomorrow evening < 1380911653 159110 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn you < 1380911679 627828 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does freshers work in universities that actually have a week for it < 1380911743 129759 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, you have a week to get settled in with stuff like "This practical is where you learn to turn on a computer" < 1380911755 846237 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then for one day all the societies try to get you to join them < 1380911762 92875 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's over < 1380911825 705697 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that does just sound like the first week at warwick < 1380911842 206849 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the societies all try and get you to join on tuesday through thursday < 1380912964 150676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone suggestions for naming my hardware in general or my new mini root in detail? < 1380912986 681845 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhizobia < 1380913020 872793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1380913030 292782 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A name. < 1380913048 505562 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it come frome? < 1380913110 371851 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380913242 221148 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380913314 174569 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380913318 210985 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380913450 715834 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, it's one of the nitrogen-fixing bacteria in plants or something < 1380913634 708737 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380915328 575174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380915594 192816 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :driyoyleujiy < 1380915754 542522 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380916047 839216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally out of formation. < 1380916062 192515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuuurgh... that was long. but now, I understand enterprisey stuff! < 1380916089 178534 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray, apparently < 1380916125 140783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1380916136 736645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling dizzy on so many levels it's not funny. < 1380916139 873843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woe, apparently < 1380916163 217014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the woe is amply felt, and I'm confused as ever about manufacturing processes. < 1380916520 308390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pung < 1380916522 630607 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat < 1380916603 516129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, that means scrotum < 1380916623 10887 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the second definition on urban dictionary about pung. < 1380917149 739353 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380918576 588882 :driyoyleujiy!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380918845 188712 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919251 589973 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919908 238605 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919935 294141 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy CB Radio Day! < 1380920035 500453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, I'll get an amateur radio license... < 1380920040 661454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dreamily looks in the sky < 1380920081 299956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the license in the sy or just the radio waves < 1380920208 718161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :license in the sky with radio waaaaves ♪ < 1380920751 647592 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* JWinslow23 doesn't give a BF < 1380920772 658052 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1380920901 643859 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380921001 212834 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380921322 352177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new swearing idiom, after the Fungottian Conjugations, “to give a BF”. < 1380921451 313475 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was mine! < 1380921538 113841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF. < 1380921553 179826 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1380921762 509231 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380921762 821356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380921786 920232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: probably poulet tonight. maybe. but don't bet on it. < 1380921789 736040 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380921796 725174 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run JWinslow23 < 1380921798 83046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: JWinslow23: command not found < 1380921806 942031 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno your syntax. < 1380921847 729135 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a shell < 1380921851 679294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo JWinslow23 < 1380921853 113323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 < 1380922086 970521 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo %JWinslow23% < 1380922088 367421 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%JWinslow23% < 1380922105 864729 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run it < 1380922108 346264 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1380922111 140975 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380922123 158617 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, SYNTAX ERROR! < 1380922125 154984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922136 102068 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1380922141 219776 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will improve that. < 1380922154 769354 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922156 296994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922164 510350 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922166 377459 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922182 363457 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, then your face will surely show it, if you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922183 578427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922194 883526 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, right? < 1380922314 168680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380922722 285073 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Quit "Something went wrong." < 1380922728 720705 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Quit "Something went wrong."] < 1380922731 744815 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380922748 483861 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380922866 911958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: something's wrong. < 1380922877 631790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: an error occurred < 1380923243 935979 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone make a clever `? telling people to experiment with the bots in /query < 1380923308 353826 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing irc in private sounds ultimately boring < 1380923363 413854 :alone!~dev@78.179.164.134 QUIT :Quit: Pislik Script ! with Self clearing virus System! Download it at 9www.PislikleR.com < 1380923406 124333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember HL engine games that would crash with "Error: no error" < 1380923417 551272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Linux equivalent is usually "Error: Success" < 1380924077 143658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380924188 823299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380924189 6606 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 6h 47m 53s ago: you stealth quoted me 4 days ago! < 1380924211 297547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i don't recall there being anything stealthy about it. < 1380924211 442991 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380924228 812154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -4 < 1380924230 841979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1112) It is probably also "horrifyingly fucked up" \ 1113) aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! \ 1114) what did fungot say? kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. \ 1115) BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills' oh, they mean for your health < 1380924562 741521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor ais523 evicted your logs from the topic, you might want to fix them. < 1380924562 887256 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380924876 600453 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380925306 169301 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380925552 281649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : school computer has autocorrect? O_o <-- it's so the pupils will get used to computers being maddenly annoying. < 1380925791 984773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily also, you are still confusing tac and rev < 1380925792 130299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380925869 439818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380925872 858924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 30 234 < 1380925882 896759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | wc < 1380925885 443411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 30 233 < 1380925898 408842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/WeLcOmE < 1380925900 286 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | CaT < 1380925915 513715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/CaT < 1380925917 45384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ print (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) < 1380925922 271428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix them up, too < 1380925953 403553 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tac the one that reverses order of lines? < 1380925958 588372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380925969 229183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, good, hopefully I'll remember that < 1380925969 374553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the python for printing without a newline? < 1380926052 733642 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. Unfortunately I don't know python < 1380926059 592273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :add an extra comma at the end < 1380926069 495752 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in ... basic? < 1380926146 174283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think that's perl, not python < 1380926164 521700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493386/how-to-print-in-python-without-newline-or-space < 1380926194 238401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so comma adds a space instead of newline? < 1380926218 489972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm... < 1380926341 899473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e '1aimport sys' -e 's/print/sys.write/' bin/CaT #Let's see how much i messed this up < 1380926346 187142 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926354 116646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/CaT < 1380926355 197523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ sys.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) < 1380926372 962788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926376 267094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/CaT", line 3, in \ sys.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) \ AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'write' \ 0 0 0 < 1380926384 61922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380926390 528177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380926407 744983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/write/stdout.write/' bin/CaT < 1380926412 74589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926415 514366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926418 380461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/CaT", line 3, in \ sys.stdout.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) \ TypeError: must be string or read-only character buffer, not function \ 0 0 0 < 1380926446 867653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats python -----### < 1380926515 480211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/write /write (/;s/read(/read()/' bin/CaT < 1380926519 328527 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926522 746875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926525 471164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 30 233 < 1380926531 851458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE < 1380926534 582339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380926541 848269 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1380926659 281408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1380926669 95264 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! < 1380926672 291155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu < 1380926676 435667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering < 1380926692 599878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dangerous! < 1380926792 538663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosider a class of programs in which every program P can, given the right integer as input, output the listing of any other program in this class < 1380926794 370312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also what happened to your webside, we had to link Spiral to Wayback. < 1380926800 635936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*site < 1380926858 36151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it make sense to talk about the maximal such class? < 1380926874 224459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1380926876 698363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost it when i stopped paying for it < 1380926935 630426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is clearly a program which ignores its input and prints itself (i.e. an ordinary quine). it cannot be extended, and there are many such, so "the" cannot apply. < 1380926969 530450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its single-program class cannot be extended < 1380927127 83030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1380927132 185996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the set of programs that can print _anything_ given an integer as input is such a class, i should think. although it might still be extendable. < 1380927133 757180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximum then < 1380927150 776693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i would expect the most inclusive such class < 1380927156 141015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to contain cat at least < 1380927162 708513 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1380927165 732852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "the" that's the problem, not the "maximal" :P < 1380927169 610342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the most inclusive class < 1380927174 848072 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric : even computable? < 1380927199 863665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously non-existent. just make two programs that can print anything, except each other. < 1380927212 409727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one should you include? < 1380927269 595519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always find a maximal class, using zorn's lemma on the class you start with. (you might even be able to tweak it to be constructive to list.) < 1380927321 878105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, cannot be constructive/computable, it will be undecidable whether a program can be added to the class. < 1380927356 593410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you cannot check whether a program can print a given other program. < 1380927412 808705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you start out with a class that is artificial limited to only decidable programs as the common output < 1380927418 302600 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone sent a tombstone to the creators of COBOL in 1960! http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X572.85 < 1380927429 880551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ally < 1380927441 555897 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if you throw an equivalence relation over your programs < 1380927451 89313 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if they do the same thing, they're the same program" < 1380927466 260459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: that's not going to _help_ decidability. < 1380927467 529800 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then reprensent every equivalency class by a decidable program < 1380927511 204399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: there are probably programs that have no decidable equivalent programs. < 1380927542 484033 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in the set of programs that print listings of other programs of the class given integers as input? < 1380927566 715201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh brain < 1380927601 274516 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every program is equivalent to the sequence (output(n))_(n\inN) < 1380927636 140784 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you can make a decidable program matching that sequence? < 1380927651 815118 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1380927673 886508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um those programs don't match quintopia's initial problem afaict < 1380927715 466079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can make decidable programs for a simple example. the problem is coming up with anything interesting where you can decide for _all_ the members. < 1380927940 605408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, you can write any old HTML/CSS/JS in jsfiddle and then immediately download it as a Firefox OS mobile app < 1380928350 987435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pungdjur < 1380928352 651589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chatqwhe < 1380928361 336481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing < 1380928363 826613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's the proof that it's impossible to prove an as-inclusive-as-possible maximal set is maximal < 1380928368 681685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pungdyr < 1380928370 351800 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chatqle < 1380928441 479369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 djur < 1380928443 212785 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwhe < 1380928454 194429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 dongs < 1380928455 801772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qbatf < 1380928473 528687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't know, but i am saying you have to construct your maximal set very carefully to ensure no undecidable-whether-you-can-add-them candidates arise < 1380928491 564562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might very well be impossible to do so. < 1380928506 735399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what situation would it become undecidable whether you can add them < 1380928547 169354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380928598 86849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if all the programs already printed are capable of printing a program whose halting problem is undecidable, and if it does halt the part after the loop belongs to the class... < 1380928608 995910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*already included < 1380928630 510541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1380928659 64613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just the simplest context i could think of < 1380928702 881070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also have programs at some point for which it is undecidable whether they can print a given other progra¨m < 1380928822 85742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to include only programs for which such things are decidable, then it may not be maximal in the original sense because there would always be a program with undecidability issues that _could_ be added. < 1380928851 549400 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does this mean the existence of an as-inclusive-as-possible such class is undecidable? < 1380928912 894910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not claiming to have any proof. < 1380928970 758209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :class of what now < 1380928973 992266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an added problem is that you have not defined "as-inclusive-as-possible" < 1380928984 11376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we have logs. < 1380928998 985101 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not gregor's, i note < 1380929018 896072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ais523 removed them. the .txt version still works. < 1380929043 872880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they removed < 1380929048 119374 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the class of computable enumerations? hm < 1380929057 925113 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't "A is as-inclusive-as-possible" mean "there is no set B (fitting the same criteria ) < 1380929067 106862 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that A is included in B"? < 1380929079 528451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ask ais523, but my guess is because the link leads to a date listing page where the most prominent links _don't_ work. < 1380929099 721205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i have been the most active Gregor-complainer during the crisis < 1380929101 637868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no, that's "maximal". < 1380929170 550392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand quintopia to mean something else by "as-inclusive-as-possible", something that excludes my example above of every quine forming a single-element maximal class. < 1380929209 462458 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines take input now? < 1380929226 59177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no, they ignore it. < 1380929226 248305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ignore it < 1380929229 855446 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was trying to be funny. sorry) < 1380929239 564517 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes are disallowed in this space-time vector < 1380929249 452746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since there are obviously subsets of programs that exclude each other, the concept of "inclusive" seems _very_ vague to me. < 1380929263 492623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to include something, you have to exclude something else. < 1380929299 600863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in what sense is whatever you include then "inclusive" if that's to mean something other than maximal. < 1380929315 533475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't know how to define it. i suppose the one you get by starting with all quines, then modifying them so they can all print each other < 1380929406 932202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i suspect a horrible mess of possible alternative definitions. < 1380929661 838882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i never notice the log problem personally because my habit is to just bring up the last .txt link on the address line and edit the date. < 1380929674 135301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bar < 1380929690 734251 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380929716 874280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda like the formatting < 1380929736 679944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot stand the font size < 1380929736 842995 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1380929747 799270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine if i zoom out. < 1380929755 592915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... i think it's the same size as the .txt for me. < 1380929863 754884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, i may have to set the font size instead, i recall one of the options causes horrible wrapping. < 1380929872 543809 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1380929877 455950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hineb < 1380929898 381238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, the messages gets wrapped to right below the corresponding nick, iirc) < 1380929902 426459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*get < 1380929963 456455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, since .txt from the address bar means less tweaking, i use that. < 1380930010 687367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except in some cases, when the .txt gets horribly broken and i switch to the formatted version. < 1380930018 217981 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380930031 987693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right-to-left stuff sometimes does that. < 1380930071 840496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it affects the whole _rest_ of the file after it.) < 1380930174 443945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish Gregor would set the encoding on the .txt file, for some reason IE 10 hides the option to select utf-8 if it hasn't autodetected it deeply in a horribly long list of charset options. < 1380930205 861883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, fuck IE < 1380930210 597223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old IE 8 had utf-8 conveniently placed.) < 1380930274 276950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have "codepage 65001" < 1380930281 605071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're so predictable. also, does whatever you use have changing a wrongly detected encoding in a convenient place? < 1380930332 156235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah both Chrome and Firefox make that convenient < 1380930346 408819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that you can introduce security holes by convincing users to change the character encoding (or tricking the browser) < 1380930372 144166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't see 65001 on the list. < 1380930378 67210 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380930392 704815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the list isn't _that_ long, but utf-8 isn't on the first page. < 1380930393 919024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm OK with being predictable < 1380931106 608582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With Silk Road shut down, developers are finding it hard to do a rolling deploy" -- Hacker News Onion < 1380931128 149335 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i get it, it's about "blunts" < 1380931132 444966 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ok with being decidable? < 1380931148 15327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so close yet < 1380931162 520260 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is me and every drug joke. right here. the platonic bike reaction. < 1380931178 205112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: the alternative is having unbounded state, which seems more terrifying