< 1381190490 894005 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so http://governmentdownforeveryoneorjustme.com/ reports the US and Syria as down < 1381190493 882095 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but such places as Somalia and Afghanistan and Congo-Kinshasa and Afghanistan as up < 1381190496 888754 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems dubious < 1381190540 644706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is afghanistan down? (twice?) < 1381190560 153637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it say about Syria < 1381190562 974006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it geolocated? < 1381190576 202433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also somaliland is fairly stable, i even know a person living there in another irc channel < 1381190582 780101 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as the US < 1381190584 56858 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :var down = ["United States", "Syrian Arab Republic"] < 1381190602 599026 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah somaliland is as fine as can be expected < 1381190605 839077 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the syrian government is still, i mean, functioning < 1381190611 379364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can congo-kinshasa be down we norwegians were just trying to negotiate with them < 1381190623 503622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just had a coup a few months ago. < 1381190626 782654 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean US diplomacy goes on too < 1381190636 372614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as fine as can be expected" should be their tourism motto < 1381190641 499369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i think < 1381190677 678252 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Syrian government is significantly less functional than the US government at this point < 1381190687 148596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1381190704 938478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear, assad said he's not sure whether he'll run for election next year, he'll only do it if the syrian people really want < 1381190783 665015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bother, i was thinking of the central african republic, not the congo < 1381190794 460914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the people who are not shooting at me want me to run" < 1381190794 676812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE? < 1381190812 566023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: preferably as fast as he can < 1381190813 542478 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether centrafrique is down is also open to question < 1381190823 530582 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in a sort of "responds to ping but slow as balls" state < 1381190833 494496 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nice, the CAR's timezone is called WAT < 1381190836 890725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "I'll only let the people decide if they want me if they decide they want me" < 1381190849 624113 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm paraphrasing ok :( < 1381190878 284729 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57606012/syria-president-bashar-assad-says-too-early-to-say-whether-hell-seek-re-election-next-year/ < 1381190931 384896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really sounds like an onion headline < 1381190947 812243 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the exact reaction i've seen in the three places i've seen a link. < 1381191008 251219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a nasty rhetorical trick to say "I'll only run if people want me" because you're implying that "if I run, people want me, you wouldn't want to vote against the people now would you" < 1381191042 396782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we had some kind of system where you could "vote" for the person you want < 1381191053 54266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then people could run regardless if anyone wants them or not, and the "votes" of the "people" would decide "who the people want" < 1381191056 4200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's really a problem, because when people say that they're usually already in kill-the-people 99%-election-results mode < 1381191060 699450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty innovative if you ask me! < 1381191068 911329 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i mean, what's a rhetorical triq or two < 1381191123 784608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to be a bit bothered at the idea of a Lisp having 'calling conventions' for Lisp functions, that can end up exposed to the user? < 1381191137 753095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bothering < 1381191149 956112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what does that have to do with Syria < 1381191160 140882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way Racket does function calls that have keywords < 1381191166 60207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies acceptable for this question < 1381191179 596887 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They expand into a call to the function with the list of keywords and keyword values as first two arguments < 1381191187 420496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a calling convention, of sorts, isn't it? < 1381191213 762284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't having keywords at all a calling convention < 1381191217 302895 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not having them, for that matter < 1381191372 921055 :Zuu__!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Zuu < 1381191387 371532 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1381191387 517027 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381193432 241801 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381193457 980255 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myanmar < 1381193459 792853 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanmar? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381193466 265355 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burma < 1381193468 523211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Bike < 1381193502 585924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you require medical assistance < 1381193532 625655 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381193541 477298 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, i don't think so < 1381193541 623037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1381193545 836974 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would i know if i did? < 1381193550 741704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1381194176 958852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odds are high < 1381194458 970968 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381194790 366797 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381194800 162688 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, you know this? https://github.com/isomorphism/Delineate/blob/master/Control/Delineate.hs < 1381194818 152071 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you do. Everyone in this channel has now heard of that file dozens of times. < 1381194843 614801 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that yeah, it's wrong. It allows you to derive "f ⊢ Unit" for all f, which you can't do in linear logic. < 1381194874 369241 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because "f ⊢ Unit" amounts to "forall r. (Unit r -> r) -> f r -> r", and "Unit r" is a unit type. < 1381194950 176095 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hetch, the module itself contains something which you can't do in LL. < 1381194963 145631 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I was reading that wrong. < 1381194978 501381 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x ⊗ (y ⅋ z) ⊢ (x ⊗ y) ⅋ z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x ⊗ (y & z) ⊢ (x ⊗ y) & z". < 1381195010 542542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine this would be much clearer without those white squares in it. < 1381195037 959614 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :White squares like ⊢, ⊗, and ⅋? < 1381195041 594149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1381195051 74969 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, gimme a moment. < 1381195069 695536 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z". < 1381195088 623070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats tswett -----### < 1381195137 326172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i could see & just fine. < 1381195191 84632 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1381195199 804107 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x (y & z) (x y) & z". < 1381195220 837425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUCH BETTER < 1381195247 921620 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's this look: 私のボオルは青いです < 1381195281 775524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like 私のボオルは青いです < 1381195331 468772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what *is* ⅋? < 1381195355 510351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's par for the course < 1381195355 655911 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I spelled ボール wrong. < 1381195389 69021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"js.js is a JavaScript interpreter in JavaScript. Instead of trying to create an interpreter from scratch, SpiderMonkey is compiled into LLVM and then emscripten translates the output into JavaScript." < 1381195405 276393 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: a process obeying the protocol "a ⅋ b" is a process that simultaneously obeys "a" and "b", switching between them as it desires. Pretty much. < 1381195422 345717 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmkay < 1381195454 277435 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, e.e < 1381195457 690136 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that, uh, Haskell? < 1381195462 967108 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: no, it's linear logic. < 1381195469 363643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's sparta < 1381195473 21795 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a little rough spot there, though. < 1381195509 173909 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :weakdist appears to be of kind (* -> *) -> ((* -> *) -> * -> *) -> * -> * < 1381195552 338717 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If flow enters an "a ⅋ b" through the "a" side of it, then flow can't exit through the "b" side, because "b" hasn't been entered yet; flow can only exit through a protocol that it's entered. < 1381195597 334632 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, in theory, that's how it *would* behave, if things were as simple as "a process that ... as it desires". < 1381195756 992056 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's the more complicated and more correct point of view: a process obeying the protocol "a ⅋ b" is a protocol that will obey "a" and is in the midst of obeying "b", or vice versa, and can switch between which one it's in the midst of obeying at will. < 1381195760 313467 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't make any sense, does it. < 1381195768 629760 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme give an example. < 1381195846 533939 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, let's say that a VM3-Coke is a vending machine that has the property that when you push its button, it dispenses a Coke, but only the first three times you push it. Likewise with a VM3-Pepsi. < 1381195909 450596 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "VM3-Coke ⅋ VM3-Pepsi" is a machine that's a combination of a VM3-Coke, and a VM3-Pepsi-whose-button-has-already-been-pushed-but-which-has-not-yet-dispensed-a-Pepsi. Or the same but with Coke and Pepsi swapped. < 1381195953 480141 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's suppose the Pepsi button is the one that's already been pushed. The combination machine isn't going to dispense anything until you push the Coke button. When you do, it could dispense either a Coke or a Pepsi, as it desires. < 1381196015 796684 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's suppose that it chooses to dispense a Pepsi. Now it's a VM3-Coke combined with a VM2-Pepsi, such that the Coke button has already been pushed. Now it's not going to do anything until you push the Pepsi button. < 1381196043 302429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to #esoteric, where theoretical computer science is explained using everyday stuff < 1381196407 484143 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't seem like a very good vending machine. < 1381196512 64137 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. < 1381196529 20545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i don't use soda machines, maybe i'm naïve here < 1381197197 627379 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381199333 877507 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any language that I have become interested in that didn't have at least one non-me person in here interested in it as well? < 1381199408 931365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebol? < 1381199605 361400 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, probably. Although someone here could be interested and just not in the chat, because it's non-IRC < 1381199609 725733 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Stackoverflow Chat) < 1381202998 743332 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381203368 381949 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381203392 163740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: what brings you back here < 1381203469 22506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess i can preänswer a question like that as far as lexande goes < 1381203578 597620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves to lexande? < 1381203687 247586 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves to Fiora? < 1381203700 621231 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: people need a place to go? < 1381203725 293391 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381203742 357991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's about that, isn't it. < 1381203784 210295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this gossip < 1381203799 511374 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not aware of any gossip < 1381203811 244725 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not sure what preänswer shachaf was alluding too < 1381203819 540999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you said < 1381203861 135399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "that" is gossip i'm thinking < 1381203882 738596 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381203888 728739 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that people need a place to go is gossip? < 1381203903 733970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the thing shachaf said is! possibly. < 1381203924 178988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1381203956 352228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything except vague rumors of things involving kmc and lexande and alice and other people < 1381203992 57577 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do you know alice? < 1381204018 256185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is alice? < 1381204030 533795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1381204041 989150 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... third hand or something <.< < 1381204267 262274 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see what? < 1381204314 119092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is truly important in this life. < 1381205194 841076 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381206784 970167 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381207083 368849 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381207622 737764 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381209392 553790 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381209425 973688 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381209696 972293 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381212784 388047 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381213173 66856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381213711 238213 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381213878 426020 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: I will be back, back in byellow < 1381214547 889742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1381214558 309097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never met alice < 1381214574 789972 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's that? < 1381214581 727767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it. < 1381214588 895339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a convo going on before you arrived < 1381214589 40855 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okeydokey < 1381214603 675175 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so. I'll look it up in the log < 1381214658 306126 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1381214820 947083 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381215193 125192 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1381215307 723900 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you should come to NYC sometime < 1381215415 897587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381215443 494669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have lower affinity for aeroplanes than I used to :/ < 1381215449 231121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, yes < 1381215482 629298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take the TRAAAAAIN < 1381215547 935368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long < 1381215885 453518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could Work From Train though < 1381215906 918468 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how the 4G coverage is along that route < 1381215951 439907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have fewer Gs than that anyway < 1381215958 401386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I should fix that before such a trip < 1381216113 193824 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216241 803782 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381216392 193544 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216398 987821 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had a sprint LTE thing < 1381216440 325947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't your cellular phone have that many Gs just in its name < 1381216526 723079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :galagzy neggsus? < 1381216569 643531 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381216583 699560 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216599 356271 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216641 727989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's the EVO 4G but in this case 4G = WiMAX = sucks < 1381216670 546662 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216670 546738 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216670 870565 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216977 319725 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381217032 61721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it compare to HSPA+ < 1381217051 714703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1381217060 302192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about... phones, and stuff < 1381217174 746029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that HSPA+ was just 3.75G. < 1381217230 745772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can round that up to 4G < 1381217236 899397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also round 3G to 4G < 1381217344 720842 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, some guy on the osdev forums seems to consistently use "winchester" as the word for hard drive < 1381217353 123224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that's oldschool < 1381217501 646123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The IBM 3340 Direct Access Storage Facility, code-named Winchester, was introduced in March 1973 for use with IBM System/370." < 1381217542 419883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was supposed to be something about them being as loud as a Winchester rifle < 1381217607 848381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently because it was 30+30MB and .30-30 is a rifle model < 1381218164 293708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1381218175 630667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is meant by "30+30MB" < 1381218201 426497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :two disk packs of 30 MB that could be swapped, or something < 1381218207 368342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1381218277 52646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a 3.9G something. < 1381218282 688977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an access time of 25 milliseconds" < 1381218311 624884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusingly that number has barely improved in 40 years, if you exclude SSDs < 1381218328 525827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/wd0s1 and so on. < 1381218380 286971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For Western Digital, even though presumably most of the disks so called haven't even seen one.) < 1381218445 771785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The name 'Winchester' and some derivatives are still common in some non-English speaking countries to generally refer to any hard disks (e.g. Hungary, Russia)," claims Wikipedia. < 1381218504 645860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A merevlemez (az egykori angol elnevezés alapján winchester-nek is), mely az adatokat mágnesezhető réteggel bevont lemezeken tárolja, melyet a forgó lemez fölött mozgó író/olvasó fej ír vagy olvas." < 1381219080 883061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cray x-mp came with an (optional) 1GB/s SSD (the way I read it, 2GB/s if you use both I/O channels) < 1381219090 628380 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... holds up surprisingly well compared to modern SSDs (though of course that SSD's probably the size of a room, the prize of a bus and only 1GB big) < 1381219125 879431 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've heard 'winsu' once or twice but I guess the heretical 'kovo' is the Standard™ nowadays. < 1381219203 914008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language? < 1381219290 331425 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish. < 1381220254 729337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird to think that such a ubiquitous word as "software" was a kind of punny coinage 50 years ago < 1381220289 381808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't think I've heard "winsu" ever. ("kovo", yes.) < 1381220356 22364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some have strong opinions on how the latter should not be used for anything else than the building material. < 1381223446 265734 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381224733 995411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1381227900 300874 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381229775 965447 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381230773 678231 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381230880 987834 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381232100 973099 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381232252 704558 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381232919 899734 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381232924 319804 :Zerker_!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381233083 766605 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381233446 337121 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381233741 181747 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1381234124 898227 :Zerker_!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381234248 300016 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381234296 179064 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234479 916766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234515 158030 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234646 257828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1381234720 151287 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381234741 741838 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234896 874967 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235246 188031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235360 921162 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235369 278417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good zsh morning! < 1381236873 192038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good scsh afternoon. < 1381237203 456787 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1381237551 481590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: people use it? < 1381237656 225050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides, the main dev seems to be one hell of a grumpy person.) < 1381237726 154742 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381237818 811774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't implying that. < 1381237879 125613 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381237890 969183 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.22 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381237891 879407 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1381238221 773693 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381238607 864035 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381238819 873243 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381238911 189173 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381239005 528388 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1381240035 612079 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381241401 170032 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1381241808 566597 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381241810 947404 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381242084 858124 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381242436 98424 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381242882 637478 :mary3!~canaima@200.11.146.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381242896 511414 :mary3!~canaima@200.11.146.254 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1381243139 628566 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381243612 9860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381244525 133316 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal NICK :Vorpal < 1381244915 239806 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381245032 589634 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381245038 251918 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381245217 845370 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine < 1381245219 989667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? quine < 1381245224 819794 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JWinslow23 < 1381245227 736039 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF. < 1381245251 723748 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will soon make a truth machine in TicTacToe! < 1381246423 511676 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381246582 221234 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246923 883440 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246924 66297 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1381246924 66431 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246930 564580 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381247098 929622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lexande http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0 < 1381247099 75079 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381247265 743643 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this shit < 1381247315 733377 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what inspires me is teaching JavaScript to African refugees < 1381247414 163528 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sister was talking about that recently < 1381247437 146879 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has some other great stuff as well. < 1381247468 938918 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381248428 307574 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://safr.kingfeatures.com/idn/etv/zone/xml/content.php?file=aHR0cDovL3NhZnIua2luZ2ZlYXR1cmVzLmNvbS9CbG9uZGllLzIwMTMvMTAvQmxvbmRpZS4yMDEzMTAwM185MDAuZ2lm hm < 1381248470 454091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1381248474 225070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to make it giant. < 1381248679 664129 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever had sea cheesy baked potatoes < 1381248679 952659 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381249170 952639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, the guy after him completely seriously said that "history shows that the countries that explore have the highest standard of living" < 1381249320 373019 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381249729 696769 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381249774 317 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381250536 311823 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381250843 822098 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1381250857 530081 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow by only being on this channel once a year < 1381250859 939177 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got into the pdf < 1381250860 380088 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric : GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment < 1381250865 95814 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha i was like, 10 then < 1381250865 646426 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1381250953 607931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the shanty wasn't half bad. < 1381251002 809211 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs addquote.*asie < 1381251051 812573 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9344 < 1381251079 583495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie: are you twelve < 1381251087 340993 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like, 10" < 1381251089 29853 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was actually 14 < 1381251119 468499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dc -e '[a=]P?[b=]P?[dSarLa%d0 Style Editor -> New -> img {transform: rotate(90deg);)} < 1381254942 870468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: I was born and moved around on an island a bit and haven't yet noticed myself being dead < 1381254950 186385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sayeth the prophecies < 1381254959 765027 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381254979 670067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The British Experience < 1381254989 268719 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381254999 37338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "i can't speak to her intestines" < 1381255005 319802 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1381255009 49163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haneb < 1381255029 172126 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1381255205 97905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonjour. < 1381255241 585751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imnqso, speaking to intestines, be they yours or someone else's, is not a good idea. < 1381255250 285939 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, my programming lectures are pretty... basic < 1381255255 721875 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Python-ish < 1381255265 922535 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you expect otherwise < 1381255379 123528 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you one of the hexham people < 1381255402 799393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lexande < 1381255405 1400 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381255405 592976 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite the question < 1381255408 46179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am the only Hexham person left < 1381255413 500175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dying breed < 1381255434 728679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LastOfHisKind < 1381255474 629611 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a failure to hexhamkind < 1381255496 568365 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never been to hexham. i've been to wylam, that's on the way sort of < 1381255529 638166 :nooodl!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381255533 757597 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1381255540 27876 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wylam is a bit past Hexham < 1381255601 531946 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if i were going to hexham, i'd presumably fly to either london or newcastle, and the train to hexham would take me via wylam < 1381255611 917399 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is on the way < 1381255659 266473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know way too much about north-east england for your own good < 1381255723 397857 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got that tyne and wear metro < 1381255729 379946 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I was thinking of Warden < 1381255860 762917 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Tyne and Wear Metro goes nowhere near Hexham < 1381255883 950368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to know of north-eastern places in the world is an essential survival skill. < 1381256029 718188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm disappointed with myself for never visiting Bletchley Park < 1381256106 141905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I wasn't that into crypto until a yearish ago < 1381256280 44798 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256313 155470 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256416 65058 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i know, but elliott expanded the scope of discussion to the whole northeast < 1381256480 912139 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381256487 167035 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1381256487 369778 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1381256503 475427 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have more reason to be disappointed with myself for never visiting bletchley park < 1381256505 293846 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you know about this < 1381256538 985766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you've been in london more? < 1381256541 936835 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that the Tyne and Wear Metro is one of only two metros in the world to have a station on the same line in two different ways? < 1381256565 309964 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381256596 888870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1381256615 152003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is the London Underground the other one (Euston), or did I misunderstand the restriction? < 1381256669 237251 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it would be better to say self-intersecting, self-paralleling things are more common (e.g. Circle Line at Paddington) < 1381256690 969079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the two Northern Line branches aren't really the same line < 1381256695 433176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of the fact that there are two Hammersmith-bound platforms on the circle line at Edgware Road < 1381256724 729236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not to be confused with the other Edgware Road station next door) < 1381256726 734743 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Tyne&Wear and Vancouver Skytrain half self-intersection < 1381256728 182541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: well it fits the restriction of connecting to the same line two different ways better than most situations < 1381256732 648782 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/half/have/ < 1381256818 247775 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381256882 379161 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256977 103027 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :RandstadRail, if you count that, also has such a pretzel topology in Zoetermeer < 1381257081 108959 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381257195 876364 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381257425 199076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a half self-intersection possible? < 1381257526 337770 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe we can claim these are all half-self-intersection < 1381257554 175116 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since in each case there are two lines sharing track in one part of the station, and only one of them loops back around to the other part of the station < 1381258214 492774 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also singapore is building a pretzel-like self-intersecting line but it seems there will be no transfer station at the crossing < 1381258305 975421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....? < 1381258367 598757 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :……… < 1381258395 375638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ldots{} < 1381258421 319218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reread your assertion. no station, therefore no transfer. I was puzzled over the fact that you couldn't change lines at a station. < 1381258447 845786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fsvo line) < 1381258662 607001 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an audition tomorrow < 1381258671 595508 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am auditioning for Jesus Christ Superstar < 1381259098 146657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Bletchley Park (even got the T-shirt) while visiting London in 2011; 'twas an interesting place. < 1381259103 429753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp.jpg <- that's from there. < 1381259125 724641 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381259263 62961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. and there I naïvely hoped that the picture contained fizzie himself. < 1381259279 711153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, 5 bit wide paper: is that baudot? < 1381259279 856731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the source of fungot. (It's not.) < 1381259280 96632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: try a new tack..." cases where test is doing something to x? else..." < 1381259310 725107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could well be. < 1381259351 825034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp2.jpg <- that's where it's from, if it helps. < 1381259522 872076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I think I may have pasted this one before for obvious reasons: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp3.jpg < 1381259534 743745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the one we've got on channel is a preceding or a succeeding model. < 1381259594 228432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it all depends if he's older or younger than himself. < 1381259602 799655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/on if/ < 1381259904 472971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there was this ridiculous thing https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp4.jpg how they kept people from pressing that button I'll never know. < 1381260068 701904 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1381260169 278501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome bicyclidine < 1381260173 487123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09bicyclid10ine13: W10elcome to the international hub f09or esoteri08c programming language de12s02ign 05and 07depl07oyment! For more infor06mation, 04c09heck o10u02t our wiki:05 htt10p://es07olan12gs.org/wiki/Main_Page.06 (For13 the ot12her kind of esoterica14, try #esot14eric on irc.dal.net.) < 1381260181 951195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disregard the welcome. you didn't see nothing. < 1381260194 366140 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregarded < 1381260288 856380 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381260357 935147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "bicyclidine" < 1381260358 925826 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11 < 1381260365 971608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (11+4)/2 < 1381260366 885918 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.5 < 1381260370 485505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almostike < 1381260451 153967 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381260499 805559 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1381260508 609655 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1381260510 192176 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1381260634 690916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipédia doesn't have bicyclidine, but suggests eticyclidine → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eticyclidine < 1381260756 921891 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381261003 719534 :nooodl_!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381261208 350485 :nooodl!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381261324 510357 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381261347 471932 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381261477 320696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381261537 19055 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381261989 440723 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: [spurious input; ignoring] < 1381262292 14250 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381262348 227967 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone fancy typing this listing into a C64 emulator? http://concoctedlogic.com/wordpress/commodore-64-core-war/ < 1381262686 520639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could OCR that. (In not many more magnitudes of time than it'd take to type it, but it's the principle that matters.) < 1381262929 424807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/DJLC <- tessearct with no tuning. "Not too shabby, eh?" < 1381262949 820349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the words are even correct. < 1381262980 289001 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1381263105 102767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a weird glitchy fungot remix... < 1381263105 365956 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thanks anyway dude :) looks like a guy < 1381263114 486552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: np. < 1381263114 917540 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you see what i mean is, if your messages happen to go into a particular package? < 1381263138 677463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you have packages? < 1381263138 879032 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by " imports", do you want < 1381263148 613155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. so you're a python program in disguise. < 1381263148 978534 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bugs are tasty.') it plainly refuses to work though < 1381263162 725951 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, that's what bugs are for. < 1381263194 574507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you lied to us! fungot's written in python! < 1381263230 86104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/OchK <- cuneiform --dotmatrix < 1381263239 67645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Maybe that's just what it wants you to think? < 1381263287 676936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you trust fizzie's opinion on your true identity? < 1381263296 883418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you really an "it"? you shouldn't let fizzie talk about you like this < 1381263297 284121 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they're have better latency but worse throughput ( unlikely) or it wasn't taught properly ( likely) the reporter is mixed up < 1381263341 700711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: indeed. the Reporter Fizzie is mixed up, and wasn't taught properly. < 1381263474 683639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just for completeness... gocr: http://sprunge.us/UeHB < 1381263569 944869 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381263579 605239 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381263892 466686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you OCR the code? fizzie doesn't seem to be succeeding < 1381263892 671661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so i imagined the correct thing to do indeed :) < 1381264285 132059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: poulet, poulet, poulet, poulet, still not poulet. < 1381264287 220359 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381264440 815448 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1381264675 869233 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381265058 717725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381265569 569325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381266210 188884 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381266366 311379 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381266425 605972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Mixed-language-link-time-optimization is really cool < 1381266453 574272 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1381266464 192329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross-language inlining and dead store elimination < 1381267594 225818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381267801 615067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I haven't made debugging particularly easy for me... my "kernel panic" thingy just prints the line number in hex < 1381268136 124600 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381268190 217568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the nobel prize went to the people who invented the higgs particle, not to any of those who showed it actually existed. i guess that's usual... < 1381268243 81126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i wonder what they'll do if, as seems inevitable eventually, a theory isn't proved until after all the theorizers are dead... < 1381268275 380710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :string theory might end up that way. < 1381268316 982791 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381268349 346028 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1381268373 976790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they _haven't_ given any nobel prizes for string theory, have they < 1381268424 433701 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381268503 242890 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381268841 983049 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :physicists should be more like biologists, clearly < 1381268900 283474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what _does_ kovo mean, originally? (also winsu i guess?) < 1381268921 161068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt only gives "hardware" < 1381268924 768529 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how people have been pointing out that the 1926 nobel prize went for research that is actually completely wrong < 1381269001 674598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it true that both syllables of "ørjan" are stressed < 1381269028 343570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um which one < 1381269098 897321 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in physiology, i meant < 1381269117 740515 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy got the prize for showing that cancer was caused by this little worm thingie < 1381269160 135262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a nematode, huh < 1381269180 852107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm it's in the second pitch accent, which i guess has the two syllables more "equal" than the first one, although i'm not sure they're completely equal. < 1381269218 193608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's obvious short for "kovalevy" (lit. "hard(sheet/slab/disc/record)"), which properly speaking should mean a kind of a building material (particleboard, fiberboard, HDF; the details are a bit hazy) but is used widely (arguably incorrectly) for a computer hard disk too. (For which the (again arguably) proper word is "kiintolevy".) < 1381269232 139845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, i was told that norwegian was easy < 1381269270 716153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to pronounce? < 1381269286 971315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general < 1381269348 258018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's analytic, so not _too_ many inflections, but it does have gender. < 1381269396 915537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe a _little_ harder than english in grammar. not quite as awful spelling. < 1381269419 8501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier than german grammar. < 1381269421 237435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!! what is a power series of a language < 1381269503 790708 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy enough to take the derivative of a language < 1381269504 407226 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1381269557 361375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Institute (for the Languages (of Finland)) seems to accept "kovalevy" as a synonym of "kiintolevy". But not everyone does. < 1381269732 299176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well kiinto means "solid", so clearly kiintolevy should mean a _solid_ disk, i.e. SSD. < 1381269742 973798 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381269758 39830 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1381269798 193663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait there's no disk in an SSD < 1381270239 635660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:11:12: fungot: are you antireflective? < 1381270239 780974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:11:12: boily: extend a protective arm/ symbian/ series60. :p diamondie well, isn't that enough? ummm......what were we talking about again? huh....really? < 1381270239 931503 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me guess: it creates the bf programs out there are made from c, java, or python, or ruby.)) < 1381270240 76844 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: invalid syntax define a way to not explicitly call eval? < 1381270262 435380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tried to reflect, and was repulsed. i'd say yes. < 1381270305 707204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'm not sure there are converters from all of those. < 1381270305 904581 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a windows driver loader thingy? yes, guile itself is slow too.) < 1381270418 694390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "levy" does not imply a (round) disc in Finnish, though, and SSD's are generally more or less slab-like, so it still fits. < 1381270644 517600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SSD-massamuisti" is what fi.wikipedia calls a SSD. < 1381270655 140194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good, good. your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get all finns to follow this more logical terminology. < 1381270678 357833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the "D" could be for "drive" too. Though how logical is that?) < 1381270682 151606 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381270739 975198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the SSD-massamuisti one) < 1381270801 574069 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381270895 737641 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381271531 452406 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381272283 727121 :nooodl_!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381272798 402616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this image is just designed to get me to stand my laptop up like a book right <-- ouch my neck < 1381272893 454143 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1381273295 907933 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381273392 169869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eek < 1381273657 754392 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1381273785 90016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA " < 1381273786 84654 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE ... < 1381273819 472943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you alive < 1381273819 745862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was talking about /real/ ants. i'll have to take < 1381273834 297327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot'll have to take < 1381273834 580291 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we have mutable fnord, though. that whole code-is-data thing doesn't mean that they do < 1381273952 851849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for chips and for freedom I could die < 1381274025 604600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you _don't_ want your fnords to mutate. trust me. < 1381274025 758652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: @quote fungot < 1381274026 47236 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: number42 annotated 308 with " expansion by gambit of previous code" at http://www.common-lisp.net/ paste/ 490 < 1381274026 192682 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just as you don't let on, you're jafar hello, sailor < 1381274205 546116 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381274604 135462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381275134 854274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381275445 582751 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381276113 231204 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric