< 1381623052 65171 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, I'm on now :) < 1381623072 288294 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had to add "10.10.10.1 fragsoc" to /etc/hosts < 1381624340 617920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now please look at the HWPL again; I have fixed a lot of things and added some things. Is it good now? Is there anything missing or otherwise incorrect in it? < 1381624475 303474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now the SPLIT block has the format: SPLIT [LTR|RTL] vec [BY num|IN HALF] AS var: statement [ELSE: statement] < 1381624485 592792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this good enough? < 1381624700 61559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I have allowed a CASE statement to have a label attached. < 1381626033 974105 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1381626310 52827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things needed may be CMOS models, analog wiring, and foreign function interface. < 1381626319 489693 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any suggestions for this? < 1381628165 612857 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-199.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1381628846 693427 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381629502 867557 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1381629844 863174 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceImages/comments/1obt00/homemade_double_slit_experiment_not_the_most/ < 1381629876 79517 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't there a bot here that can do unit conversion < 1381629889 589928 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many pounds is 40 Gg? < 1381630175 699714 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I'm overtired enough to work on a Haskell port of mcmap < 1381630205 102794 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or overviewer? < 1381630381 136571 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-119.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381631480 372814 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381631868 532208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my kind of idea of text adventure game? < 1381632311 631901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a SDL window be opened by a extension library or only the main program is SDL based? < 1381632325 159347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it can be opened by an extension library < 1381632334 316757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to define something in the C source files, though < 1381632345 396751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL_MAIN_HANDLED < 1381632347 714106 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before including the header < 1381632358 664455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means that SDL won't try to provide its own main < 1381632441 133682 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you do that then if another program loads a .dll or .so file that opens a SDL window, then will it work OK? What need to be done to continue the other program to run when the window is not open (or even if the window is open)? Is simply to SDL_Init() and SDL_Quit() and then the caller can continue, would it works? < 1381632531 203256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381632546 347291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anything else of concerned? < 1381632701 914307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it doesn't any more, as of SDL 2 < 1381632718 95703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this is for SDL 2 < 1381632725 402405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only on Windows, Android, iPhone < 1381632729 330391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on other pltforms it doesn't matter < 1381632781 575533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, okay < 1381632792 485906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I think I am using an older version of SDL anyways, but hopefully should it work OK either way? < 1381632804 728832 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :SDL < 2 does funky things with main < 1381632808 57182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to call its main < 1381632827 903536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you have a source for Android and iPhone? it says it's just about WinMain() in http://wiki.libsdl.org/MigrationGuide < 1381632838 529688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the source of the header files themselves < 1381632847 79508 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1381632861 621255 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, I thought it only provided a WinMain on Windows, so you could just use main? < 1381632877 237469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does SDL's main do? < 1381632897 192888 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381632914 297066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it provides equivalents in Java and Objective-C for Android and for iPhone < 1381632916 214397 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-119.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1381632921 375609 :muskrat_!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net NICK :muskrat < 1381632987 679755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective-C is a strict superset of C, so you should be able to use an existing C program and just write the stuff to wrap them in Objective-C objects, isn't it? < 1381633056 422936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GCC or LLVM target Dalvik yet? < 1381633646 606871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to know this about SDL because I wanted to make up a SQL extension library for graphics, so that you can write something like SELECT XYPLOT(`TIME`,`SPACE`) FROM `THINGS` ORDER BY `TIME`; and make it plot the graph of the data. < 1381633680 639476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "XYPLOT" here is a aggregate.) < 1381633737 553647 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah. So, you can just write "int main()" everywhere and it'll work, but if you do fancier stuff it'll cause issues? < 1381633740 72721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps XYPLOT just returns a picture, and then another function SHOW takes a picture and displays it. < 1381633853 431062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes < 1381633880 824400 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that actually makes sense. < 1381633890 326432 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not 100% sure it belong in SDL, but eh. < 1381634396 505907 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, http://31.media.tumblr.com/f8e08e23c7819fc749d1d45ae719d38b/tumblr_mtjnvzKW9E1sq11yeo1_500.jpg < 1381634427 295334 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1381634428 514457 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote usb sushi < 1381634429 727014 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's evil < 1381634430 320446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :827) what does it mean for a pencil to be turing complete.... monqy: it's the same concept as USB sushi, really \ 828) usb sushi is dangerous. I think I would try to eat it < 1381634446 378732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, two USB sushi quotes. < 1381634472 575566 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were at the same time, I think? < 1381636144 470507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there other way I could support graphics with SQL? < 1381637018 560812 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381637485 559778 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sushi does look pretty good. < 1381637574 861650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed in this computer I have a file with list of Pokemon battle rules that I and my brother made up, including time controls, financial controls, tie breakers, and various other things. < 1381637609 224105 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was there a subprime mortgage crisis in hoenn < 1381637619 774062 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, one option is this: SURRENDER COMMAND = BATTLE | MATCH < 1381637679 462645 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111116 < 1381637775 341047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is even such thing as doubling cube < 1381637854 147340 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381638025 887423 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :INVALID TARGET CORRECTION = AUTO SAME SIDE | AUTO ANY SIDE | MISS | PROMPT | USER FAINTS | LOSE BATTLE | DISQUALIFY I believe "AUTO SAME SIDE" is used in the official games, although I prefer "MISS" instead. < 1381638061 861161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your preference for such things? < 1381638267 706507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I believe the official game actually uses auto same side if possible, otherwise random opponent < 1381638298 218810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same side behaviour is important, it means that you can hedge against unknown EVs on the opponent via double-targeting and knowing that the second attack will shift if necessary < 1381638305 752829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm happy with the official rules < 1381638330 900227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people might not always be so here I specified a lot of possibilities. < 1381638335 439485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd remove a layer of strategy to do the vast majority of those possibilities < 1381638386 11344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1381638412 241861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What strategy do you think would be different with each one? < 1381638830 509378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: double-targeting would only be valuable under prompt or auto same side, unless you were confident that it would KO < 1381638835 150065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not KO without it < 1381638873 436839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's risky enough as it is because of Protect, and it just wouldn't work under almost all those rules < 1381638888 327479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also self-destruct, though < 1381638901 350630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes I believe you are correct in general < 1381638925 477638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever since the nerf in gen V, selfdestruct hasn't done enough damage to be useful, and it hits everything so there's no invalid target correction anyway < 1381638955 400589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :base 200 of (nearly always) the wrong type is like base 133 STAB < 1381638972 137009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is only slightly higher than the top attackers would be doing anyway, and the drawback's really large < 1381638978 385817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not oneshotting things, you wouldn't use it < 1381638981 671997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it doesn't oneshot things < 1381638983 551346 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if the target uses selfdestruct and goes first < 1381639027 155787 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you thought that would happen, you'd just use Protect < 1381639136 127934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if you didn't think that would happen (but it happen anyways) or if you don't have Protect? < 1381639286 785716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you didn't think it would happen, you probably weren't strategizing for it < 1381639299 496560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in doubles, it's quite rare to not have Protect, and if you do, you're probably going all-in on going first < 1381639302 160404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the target isn't going first < 1381639309 242146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, if you do go without Protect < 1381639328 920810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, if the opponent's using Selfdestruct, it's going to be because they think it's a KO < 1381639336 583441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it probably will be a KO, and you won't be able to attack anyway < 1381639405 928712 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the invalid target correction is set to USER FAINTS, LOSE BATTLE, or DISQUALIFY, and they have the ability to go first, then they will use it even if it isn't a KO, just to trick you < 1381639449 363687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but those settings are silly < 1381639471 916804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with lose battle / disqualify, you'd get a free win with encore/memento and a wobbuffet < 1381639502 267680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is as stupid, as combos go, as the one where you use serene grace blissey in order to trick the opponent into breaking sleep clause < 1381639509 602989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I actually did use serene grace blissey, but not for that reason) < 1381639521 587658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then for what reason? < 1381639606 979228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that I could get it paralyzed and it couldn't get poisoned after that < 1381639615 453396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in general, I could switch it into status moves to protect it from toxic poison < 1381639622 527573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep and toxic poison are huge problems for blissey < 1381639635 672535 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and toxic spikes will toxic poison it on every switch in < 1381639645 901365 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is a pokemon art http://evandahm.tumblr.com/post/63890319543/ < 1381639646 463126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but getting it paralyzed avoids that problem < 1381639660 263531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it gave a higher chance of freezing with ice beam, which is always nice < 1381639669 657558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and helped save on PP due to the paralysis < 1381639688 379778 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it tends to win long drawn-out battles < 1381639780 443079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my blissey was almost invincible against just about anything that wasn't able to kill it within 2 turns < 1381639921 481134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or toxic poison / sleep it < 1381640010 142061 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game, Pokemon? < 1381640023 946052 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much do you expect use of doubling cube to affect the game? < 1381640319 272183 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about formats for creating the team? There is official, custom data, rental, random, random rental, duplicate random rental, and you could have drafts and auctions too. < 1381640325 29934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1381640342 788489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: doubling cube works much the same way in any game < 1381640346 1277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The first two formats are Constructed and the others are Limited.) < 1381640456 19522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Magic: the Gathering, Official and Custom Data would correspond to Standard and Proxy. < 1381640482 385616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that it? < 1381640528 624327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How do you think it is affecting pokemon game specifically though, what kind of strategies may differ as a result? < 1381640552 249873 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seven hundred and sixty one armless and legless corpses float inconspicuously around the inside of hangar ninety six. I say that they are inconspicuous because it is their arms and legs which demand my attention. < 1381640575 526593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't think it'd affect it in any specific way compared to other games < 1381640899 410304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which formats do you prefer, Constructed, Limited, or both? (I always play the Limited formats myself, both in Magic: the Gathering and in Pokemon.) < 1381641036 589589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What time controls do you use? < 1381641085 710843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :novikov self-consistency < 1381641226 543707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a match consisting of multiple battles, there are even more things to consider: DELETE FAINTED POKEMON = NO | YES DELETED POKEMON GO TO OPPONENT'S COMPUTER = NO | YES SURRENDER COMMAND = BATTLE | MATCH POKEMON CENTER PRICE = PROHIBIT | REQUIRE | 0..99999 and of course the doubling cube is also one thing that applies to a match of multiple battles. < 1381641299 97739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such things as interest rates and inflation rates would also apply in such case if money is being used. < 1381641372 481649 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you expect these to affect strategies? < 1381642640 124688 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a kind of Pokemon mahjong. It includes typed and typeless wildcards (typeless wildcards are only dealt after a drawn game and otherwise unused). There are two kind of sequences possible (numeric and evolutionary). A called set ("chii" or "pon") has to be unambiguous; for example, [2,joker,fire] is unambiguous, but [4,joker,fire] is ambiguous (it may represent [3,4,5], [4,5,6], or [4,4,4]), and [1,joker,fire] is not valid. < 1381642670 306616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is OK for a closed set to be ambiguous.) < 1381642743 822556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :([3,joker,fire] is also ambiguous; it represents either [2,3,4] or [3,4,5], but not [3,3,3]. If you understand Pokemon then you should understand this!) < 1381642840 169961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand this. < 1381642851 133556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand Pokemon? < 1381642919 991154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What part did you not quite understand? < 1381643054 479331 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381643296 154318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, [1,2,joker] is unambiguous, [2,3,joker] is ambiguous, and [150,151,joker] is unambiguous in first generation but ambiguous in later generations. Hopefully this is clear enough, since there is no zero (if there is then clearly it is ambiguous). < 1381643637 425214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381644344 124430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381644542 921058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381644601 921054 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mornin', PH < 1381644670 69690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are you doing up at this hour < 1381644691 752943 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAN party < 1381644699 428635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that thing < 1381644731 916571 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been playing Guns of Icarus Online < 1381644986 476913 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jd-iaYLO1A < 1381644995 75036 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(US-politics related) < 1381645492 105148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia isn't there a bot here that can do unit conversion <-- yes, `frink on HackEgo < 1381645492 250616 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381645511 891984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`frink 40 Gg -> pound < 1381645531 998451 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :4000000000000000/45359237 (approx. 8.818490487395103e7) < 1381645696 404458 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381645720 484646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia `frink 40 Gg -> pound < 1381645720 630103 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381645848 508816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381646336 247155 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381648380 944880 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381649671 6012 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, how many years should I renew my domain for < 1381649682 644756 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can go up to 9 < 1381649764 816358 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381649894 935617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I went for 3 because I got a discount on that < 1381649915 965565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it matters much, though < 1381649922 734137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you know you're going to hold onto it < 1381650233 186379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381650265 575258 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up choosing 3 because it looks like it's a magic number, but I think the cost for me scales up proportionally < 1381650389 995730 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I die and my domain expires shortly after, surely that will be sad, but I won't be around for it. < 1381651649 587668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly what we need is for people to pay for the next period 3 years before the previous runs out. < 1381651766 933864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1381652393 553359 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm losing my battle against sleep < 1381652432 627213 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Taneb < 1381652432 963957 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Sun Oct 13 09:20:33 < 1381652449 918824 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1381652465 214808 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been awake for ~24 hours < 1381652513 69808 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you code and lose track of time? < 1381652530 827663 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...er, jeez, it's 1:21AM here. when did that happen. < 1381652566 517574 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAN party < 1381652653 325213 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :after about 4 years of thinking about doing so, I'm writing an HTML page about all of the projects I've done < 1381652662 320127 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381652668 351505 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, at least starting to. I think I've started to before. < 1381652681 379019 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly a lot of technical reports that I have no reason not to publish. < 1381652727 726695 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a bit against the point that I'm only starting to do this now that I'm gainfully employed. < 1381653164 139331 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1381653170 152397 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381653260 898039 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381653681 348398 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, partly in that sharing ideas is nicer when you have mostly-unstructured free time...) < 1381654247 727857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I see a polished sphere I get this urge to photograph it. (Cf. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131013-balls.jpg for example.) < 1381654524 905000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131013-balls2.jpg and so on and so forth. < 1381654679 108852 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha ha, balls < 1381654750 380629 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1381654763 575186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if fizzie ever meets a disco ball we won't see him again. < 1381654785 968038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I own a disco ball, yet here I am. < 1381654814 576360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, you solved the problem by bringing it with you. fiendish. < 1381654851 228392 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381654851 386951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what seems to be the problem. < 1381654871 277301 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i slightly haven't slept < 1381654892 372721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. we shall use the ancient and tried procedure for this. < 1381654897 142836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: GO TO BED < 1381654901 620292 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, NO < 1381654913 546977 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bed's a mile away < 1381654920 610415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the slight problem with the ancient and tried procedure. < 1381654926 370375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: GO TO SLEEPING BAG < 1381654929 799311 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'd need to cart my desktop over < 1381654935 578146 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't bring one! < 1381654944 238201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: YOU ARE A FOOL < 1381654959 119914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO DOOMED < 1381655004 915537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has vague memories of the local (tabletop) gamer's con. < 1381655029 18808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of sleeping on mats, maybe. < 1381655036 89295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: GO TO UNDER TABLE < 1381655037 231936 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since my last sleep, I have consumed one bowl of cereal, one hot chocolate, one 500ml bottle of coca cola, one packet of crisps, and a lot of water < 1381655050 509863 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, LATER < 1381655066 29855 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm cold, hungry, overtired, and something else < 1381655073 152096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smelly, perhaps? < 1381655081 103699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i now also have vagure memories of the cuisine at the con. you might try a sausage if they have them. < 1381655145 792609 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381655151 937327 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only consumables they provide seem to be a ridiculous high-energy slushy thing < 1381655164 739172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also has vague memories of the second con where he gave up and went home to sleep. < 1381655253 928586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my memory is too vague to tell whether i returned after sleeping or not. < 1381655888 270667 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol you used to be such a nerd < 1381655912 566759 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what were you like at lan parties < 1381655917 158359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still a nerd. < 1381655926 470398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never went to a lan party that i can recall < 1381655938 23370 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought gamer con was some kind of lan party < 1381655963 51057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these days it can be, which is why i added the "tabletop". < 1381656019 678850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these were board games and role playing games (which weren't computer games either). < 1381656030 536272 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok i was not familiar with that term. < 1381656036 384482 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it meant a computer. < 1381656061 103769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's a *desk*top, obviously a completely different thing. < 1381656064 48764 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381656078 798624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just cannot win when people start stealing your terminology. < 1381656107 241505 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what were you like at board game parties < 1381656119 413468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tired. < 1381656136 82220 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking beer bong & cocaine < 1381656156 328716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Ropecon (a tabletop-ish gamer con, though it's related things too) once or twice, and also have "fond" memories of the "cuisine". (Also haven't really been able to look at potato salad the same way since.) < 1381656181 394753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :these were drug and alcohol free. they were trying to recruit youngsters to the club, after all. < 1381656181 794543 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been to konklaavi, which i guess is turku's attempt at ropecon < 1381656211 251079 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played this board game where you program a robot < 1381656218 187366 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381656218 634997 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i sucked) < 1381656224 82363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :roborally? < 1381656226 835052 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381656243 283066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think i saw it played but never played myself) < 1381656297 18997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: XD < 1381656303 28894 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was the only thing i played, i usually prefer watching < 1381656355 352939 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also I think I left some potato salad on a table with a "free to take (if you don't bring it back)" sign while sleeping somewhere nearby, and when I woke up, *someone had taken it*. < 1381656382 208257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: worked perfectly then! < 1381656433 809107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also had a Brockian Ultra-Cricket tournament there, because I tried sleeping in a plastic-tubing-duct-tape-and-foam canoe that someone had made for a weapon. < 1381656440 67978 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has an eerie premonition < 1381656474 259324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, this year's con isn't until a month from now. < 1381656556 881315 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ropecon XX (20th time) this year was in late July. (Didn't go.) < 1381656697 875260 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1381657611 138805 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381658064 340959 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381658586 192586 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, dorftime < 1381658628 341627 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for dorfs < 1381658645 412647 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad thing i'm way too stupid for military < 1381659058 338432 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381659151 611318 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit Taneb, clear rooms of stone before furnishing them < 1381659165 128755 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, dfhack fixes that apparently < 1381659173 18910 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't tried it myself though < 1381659192 30614 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how that? < 1381659207 377977 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfhack.makearmy()? < 1381659245 303531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it does binary patches and stuff now < 1381659249 756737 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty cool < 1381659268 190558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even makes the temperature system not half your FPS < 1381659317 679350 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do people "get into" df these days < 1381659345 9776 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :df gets into them < 1381659418 889478 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-oh, i think i cooked all our plump helmets and most of the booze < 1381659428 316963 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381659498 285150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: i.e. < 1381659499 583507 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381659621 377250 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1381660003 372339 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, a ranger is shooting at a carp out of some sense of dwarven triumphalism < 1381660079 927675 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381660208 191529 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it still doesn't work without X, though < 1381660253 611638 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, i could've sworn there was a windows version < 1381660272 847022 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i don't do windows < 1381660281 393295 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing is, i'm playing df via ssh < 1381660312 218767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :X goes over SSH just fine. (For some values of "just fine" that aren't very large for slow links.) < 1381660329 781617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there's things for that scenario too.) < 1381660339 685217 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfhack works by adding hooks to libsdl though < 1381660354 510016 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly that is my problem < 1381660371 751525 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may have to search for a good way of using it < 1381660386 345709 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh, i use the liquids hack a lot < 1381660447 558326 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo etc. < 1381660470 643521 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't like pumping magma up all the way :( < 1381660481 358402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elves! < 1381660488 671888 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses, i don't have a military yet < 1381660490 467797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure I understand why adding hooks to libsdl would be incompatible with networksing the SDL output. < 1381660506 184821 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i have a werebeast with no military :/ < 1381660538 649990 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: afaik dfhack forks itself into df to get the pid < 1381660589 332268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I'm still not seeing how that's relevant. < 1381660625 12104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Of course I don't know anything about dfhack, or df in general.) < 1381660625 224572 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one may hack dfhack to make it work other ways, but afaik it doesn't work with networking right now < 1381660775 854944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just don't get it. If you have SDL library using an X backend, it ought to use the X server reached through $DISPLAY even if there's patches to the library, or it's started in some fancy way. < 1381660791 670838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the farms aren't producing any food for whatever reason < 1381661080 826466 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i bought a chimpanzee < 1381661087 116066 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope i can train it for war < 1381661310 795511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I just started dfhack on my workstation at work some 6 kilometres away, and I don't understand anything of what's happining, but I did get a "DFHack is ready" in the console, and a SDL window with "Slaves to Armok: God of Blood" Chapter II title in it. < 1381661347 10157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So as far as I can tell, it seems to be working just fine forwarded over a SSH connection. (Two, in fact, since the workstation in question isn't directly reachable from the outside; had to go through a shell server first.) < 1381661405 105785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's typically forwarded-X laggy, and there's no sound because of "Dynamically loading the OpenAL library failed, disabling sound" and anyway networked sound is a bigger headache always, but other than that.) < 1381661431 883274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound in df consists of one music track playing on a loop < 1381661468 23405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Forwarded-X laggy" meaning about one second between keypress and action in the title screen. < 1381661501 279139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there are things one can do to make forwarded X significantly faster that shouldn't make it any less likely to work. < 1381661503 792289 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sound doesn't matter < 1381661529 154020 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well, there is soundsense < 1381661537 595115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never used it, though < 1381661681 945706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Even plain X can be borderline usable over a LAN connection, this was a VDSL2 link and through ten hops to the shell server, and four more to the workstation (different department).) < 1381661752 61159 :Taneb!~Taneb@sns154-93.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381661849 155575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :NX makes things faster though involves more setup, and there's the Xvnc approach (virtual-framebuffer X on the same box as the process + compressed VNC for the screen), and I seem to recall hearing about something NX-y except newer and better. < 1381661909 564471 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd still prefer it just sitting in the terminal, but i guess it can't be helped < 1381662148 623065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the usual "faster SSH" flags ("-C -c blowfish-cbc,arcfour" -- compression and faster encryption methods, if you dare) the input lag in the title screen drops to something like 0.2 seconds, maybe. (Hard to judge.) I've used programs with interfaces this slow locally. < 1381662211 332507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly the compression made more of a difference, I don't believe it's a CPU-bound thing at these link speeds.) < 1381662360 98445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU-bound and dwarf fortress are phrases which fit together nicely < 1381662382 718589 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :D < 1381662396 966682 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is one reason i don't want to play it on my netbook < 1381662424 973419 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazingly in my last fort there wasn't any slowdown, at all < 1381662439 167909 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether it's having a better laptop or dfhack or both, though < 1381662463 294694 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i played a nanofortress once < 1381662475 851779 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like "wow, this stuff actually can be fast" < 1381662587 812952 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it were just for liquids, i might transfer the savegame and make that stuff locally < 1381662597 88131 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't help withmilitary, though < 1381662695 715846 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-159.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381662717 993385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, military's just broken < 1381662728 495511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right Xpra was the other fancy thing for slow-link X I was thinking of. < 1381662791 521044 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the brokenness is not my personal main issue < 1381662800 276080 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just too complicated for me < 1381662814 553601 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is fine but military < 1381662901 527728 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's that too < 1381662974 913950 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that and textile industry tbh < 1381663005 785964 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a fortress once that got completely destroyed by the clothing-for-happiness update < 1381663013 682353 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm kinda traumatized since then < 1381663336 530458 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip re textiles: goblins have clothes too < 1381663354 55795 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but not very good ones < 1381663424 920722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the clothes dorfs migrate with aren't good either < 1381663472 316570 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want my dorfs like i want my women: happy and drunk < 1381664242 309434 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK we now have an actual military < 1381664248 103531 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait taneb left < 1381665017 62270 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm no expert on english pronunciation but i feel like it should be "dorvs" < 1381665101 923132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how the two things you can make a backpack with are leather and adamantine < 1381665532 937069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381668391 907453 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381673307 189859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, do you want in < 1381673320 440313 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt elliott'll be able to play < 1381673356 80465 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :want what? < 1381673364 257671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In." < 1381673367 816690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fortress < 1381673375 57276 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a succession game with two people currently < 1381673375 652913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first hit is always free? < 1381673387 425269 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt i will play it somewhere as good as you < 1381673409 158507 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-159.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381673428 545264 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, it'll be just like having elliott back < 1381673450 320772 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1381674265 27472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wheee, an ambush < 1381674551 815046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, if you want the save then i'll kill the ambush before handing it over, but i recommend setting up a hospital asap < 1381674682 890448 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it just figures, the one dorf who dies has to be the expedition leader/manager/bookkeeper < 1381674721 961216 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :always < 1381674747 125977 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i had an ambush and my leader was like "okay, i gotta go and watch what's happening there" < 1381674971 522958 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck why is nobody going outside < 1381674981 884489 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i turned off the burrow and all < 1381675011 294573 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the drawbridge is up < 1381675028 526670 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might it be < 1381675077 477866 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i producing no drink! why are hungry dorfs going straight for the plump helmets rather than the prepared meals!!! < 1381675200 638066 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381675454 355804 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381675579 147586 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381676207 590129 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, http://www.filedropper.com/region3 if you're man enough < 1381676261 482728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :*swoon* such a manly file < 1381676555 162214 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381676573 897009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1381676756 145187 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381676839 520696 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381676876 203550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1381676968 406489 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381677002 560672 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1381677070 432862 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381677463 987898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A rule I was thinking to use in Pokemon battle game is PP factor, which is 5 by default but you might play with a lower PP factor in case 5 is too easy. < 1381677872 128804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381677988 953858 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381678327 688324 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well I guess that depends on the game mechanics < 1381678345 958140 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall in the video games 5 was the lowest, and most attacks had 15 or 20 < 1381678357 643390 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1381678357 788842 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc said 1d 16h 40m 18s ago: the C-T thesis is about machines which can actually be built; it's easy enough to make mathematical models stronger than a Turing Machine < 1381678433 700368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C-T boundary, on the other hand. < 1381678504 708000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so it's actually K not C < 1381678514 760490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they've just renamed T to Pg. < 1381678587 841500 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you can blame the Germans for the K, unsurprisingly. < 1381678607 977259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really knew that. it's "Kritt" in norwegian. < 1381678622 756181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means "chalk") < 1381678634 631181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: They are a multiple of five (or sometimes just one); this "PP factor" is the multipler to use in place of five (if set to zero, all attacks with have 1 PP) < 1381678665 47466 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh okay < 1381678693 151464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Liitu(kausi) in Finnish, for some reason. < 1381678847 448514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though limestone in general is "kalkki(kivi)", which I would assume comes from the same place as chalk. < 1381678855 852487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably a lot of chalk was made at the time. < 1381678948 348814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was just wondering about the etymology of "liitu". < 1381679019 962719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two generic Finnish dictionaries I have web-access to don't include etymology entries. < 1381679225 401580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose "liitu" and "kritt" could also share roots, actually. (Also it's "kriit" in Estonian.) < 1381679291 422489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can understand dropping a k, but why would the r turn into l, given that finnish has proper r. < 1381679302 542935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps someone misheard. < 1381679309 406990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's been borrowed via a language that doesn't have r < 1381679331 895409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From Swedish krita" says the Wiktionary of fi:liitu. < 1381679367 55114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1381679400 887044 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381679415 34873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe finnish didn't have r until it started heavy borrowing? < 1381679442 122570 :Yogi_Bear!~Yogi_Bear@177.138.129.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381679461 893896 :Yogi_Bear!~Yogi_Bear@177.138.129.175 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invitation http://www.tatuuu.com.br < 1381679463 189178 :Yogi_Bear!~Yogi_Bear@177.138.129.175 QUIT :Client Quit < 1381679465 633158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've certainly not heard of that being the case. < 1381679670 450906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proto-Uralic, according to Wikipedia, does have a trill /r/. < 1381679817 633466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but has that been preserved as /r/ in finnish < 1381679881 179858 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least in the single 'r'-containing example word the "Vocabulary" section of the Proto-Uralic article has. < 1381680053 397182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about word-initially < 1381680059 412829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other "kr"-starting Swedish examples that have a similar-sounding Finnish word I can think of generally have a 'r' left. Like krabba <=> rapu. < 1381680083 607655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the etymology is just mistaken. < 1381680085 856065 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1381680145 393365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or both k and r, like kris-kriisi. < 1381680199 400290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably more is preserved the newer the loan < 1381680433 998292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Finnish etymological database but I don't have access to it. There's also a freely available database of cross-references, which lists five book-and-page entries discussing "liitu", but of course not the contents. < 1381680786 681902 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1381680810 176105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381682145 63041 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-159.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381683990 476599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a C library for cross-platform access of what is the directory where the executable program is stored and files that override ones in that directory? SDL 2 has some, but it isn't available in SDL 1 and uses UTF-8 rather than native filenames, and I want to use native filenames instead. < 1381684430 648931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I wanted a cross-platform printing library so that I can just send ESC/P codes and it converts them and sends them to the printer. < 1381684902 799576 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381687304 918252 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1381687911 336146 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1381689960 896126 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-214.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381690003 200656 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know some cross-platform library to support printing with ESC/P codes so that I can use it with the Z-machine interpreter. < 1381690192 803009 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381690735 732185 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.google.com/p/awib/ < 1381690809 236330 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NSFW source code) < 1381690855 543198 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFW source code? < 1381690892 195767 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source code is arranged as ASCII art of a naked woman < 1381691009 475045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like give away chess puzzle? Do you like tsume shogi? < 1381691126 888292 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1381691135 843466 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah gonna get off on this triangle of space characters < 1381691137 669621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx sgeo < 1381691165 727136 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nsfw does not, to be fair, mean 'porn' < 1381691444 248646 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, malware could probably be considered NSFW... < 1381691447 664497 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in at least one sense < 1381691614 634801 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1381691833 246120 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381691849 693797 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I think Gregor did a great job on that new album. I really liked the face paint. < 1381692098 783761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have two different ideas of making a text adventure game; do you like any of this? < 1381692420 480182 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381692647 895333 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381692672 706137 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381692774 183789 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381693031 178414 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381693423 520634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What album is that? < 1381693456 862319 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one that's coming out on the 29th. < 1381693460 381244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes some gregorian chant < 1381694235 533096 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally make some Racket language that makes Racket more like Tcl < 1381694819 861486 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the games is there is one starting room with many spell stones (like scrolls, but much more heavy), you have to pick a few and go through everywhere else and use that to your advantage and them come back, get new ones, go around again, until you have completed the game. Do you like this? < 1381694909 287590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be playing it, but i won't write it < 1381694918 789520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I write the game, not you < 1381694929 730926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would also write the other game trilogy < 1381695011 437233 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For the other game that I didn't just describe now, that is why I was asking about DNA that goes the other way, and I study other scientific things) < 1381695017 828205 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, personally i am looking for a game idea to realize < 1381695026 541424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have no creativity at all < 1381695045 348432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Using what system, do you expect? Is it DOS, Z-machine, C+SDL, etc? < 1381695056 999957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can provide some ideas < 1381695102 804252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'd prefer a pretty boring linux shell :p < 1381695144 571087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not understand very well what you wanted < 1381695155 799700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean you are going to write in shell scripts? < 1381695184 105850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, i want to write in rust with termbox or ncurses < 1381695204 255593 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is a text grid, do you mean? < 1381695261 933409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381695310 881952 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have made various games using that in CGA Collection (some are graphical but most are text grid); will that give you any idea? < 1381695330 680448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(One of my ideas was to make a game based around the limitations of the Famicom, so that I can later put it in Famicom too) < 1381695352 782360 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what limitations are you aiming at? < 1381695393 53444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly the PPU limitations, where there are a limit of eight sprites per scanline and areas of 2x2 tiles sharing an attribute (palette). < 1381695478 658267 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds interesting, but i'm not really a graphics guy < 1381695492 922685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have made a puzzle game based on these limitations. In the CGA Collection, it is called "ATTRZONE", and it does use text mode, not graphics mode.) < 1381695530 5819 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i know the cga collection? < 1381695531 982114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make text adventure games (and even text grid games) using Z-machine; I have written the Frolg assembler and the Aimfiz and Fweep interpreters, if you want to use Z-machine. < 1381695550 347617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Maybe; you can look if you want to at least: http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP < 1381695604 986041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The interpreter Fweep can run in a text window/terminal emulator, although it doesn't support grid windows, colors, etc; Aimfiz is SDL and does support grid windows and colors and so on.) < 1381695657 726364 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :please use the gopher service < 1381695661 964713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :u can't be serious? < 1381695705 919141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What are you trying to access? < 1381695707 41817 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but firefox dropped gopher-support a while ago :( < 1381695711 374590 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your index < 1381695722 870099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have an index; you have to access directly by the filenames. < 1381695752 219885 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's behind the gopher? < 1381695856 9642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is menus in gopher, although it is not quite complete. There are gopher clients (I have written two, one in shell scripts and one in VB6; there is also OverbiteFF to support gopher in Firefox). Probably you can just know the filename though you can access the file (even using wget or whatever; there aren't any webpages to navigate before finding the file to download) < 1381695862 891387 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381695898 989203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can also write your own gopher client; it is not difficult) < 1381695953 981718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to download a file though you don't need it; you can download files over HTTP using wget or curl, or you can download files over gopher by something like "echo filename.zip | nc example.org 70 > filename.zip" or whatever. < 1381695969 790872 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381695990 391732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you even use gopher? < 1381696110 521913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't use the stupid stuff of HTML and HTTP and that stuff; it also saves energy < 1381696197 642618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most files are available on HTTP too, so if you have wget or whatever you can easily download these files in that way. (You can also download or view using a web browser) < 1381696377 759424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381696488 405431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have other ideas for computer games though < 1381696516 163117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, sokoban with strange geometry < 1381696562 220767 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that needs lots of levels, though < 1381696589 37564 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sokoban is "I give you the sum of each row and column and you find the numbers in each cell" right? < 1381696618 126626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, the Z-Comp theme, which is this: Richardson fire // 2009-10 Leicester City F.C. season // Merciful to gibbering mouthers and the other monsters (pick one, two, or all three combined; that would be difficult) < 1381696621 762453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: No. < 1381696630 344461 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once played a wooden game kinda like that where there was a skycrapper in every cell and you could see the projection on very row and column < 1381696646 978463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sokoban is push the blocks on the targets < 1381696658 458624 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: that's part of simon tathams portable puzzle collection < 1381696666 731064 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if one row has skycrappers of height 3, 4, 1, 2 and you're looking from the right, you only see that there is a height 2, and behind it a height 4 < 1381696685 348483 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ < 1381696694 851306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: I have played a similar game except that it only tell you how many are visible, not their height < 1381696702 605256 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"towers" < 1381696705 858936 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay maybe that was it < 1381696820 143803 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Do you like any of these ideas I wrote now? I do have some others ideas too < 1381696858 874024 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there some i missed? < 1381696890 997296 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sokoban may be interesting to play, but it would bore the shit out of me as a developer as i have to know all the levels already < 1381696923 633182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another idea is some game that you have to prevent all of the magnets from touching each other; I am unsure how to make such a computer game though < 1381696948 634261 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-159.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381696966 656035 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381697340 437590 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here are some other computer game ideas (some aren't mine, but most are): http://forums.nesdev.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10081 See if that help you at something < 1381697455 171644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Are these good? < 1381697479 877903 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to read them first :D < 1381697528 255001 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you get all those ideas < 1381697537 370896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1381697579 567637 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like "hoplite" for android < 1381697598 799807 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a roguelike where moving into an opponent is NOT a method to attack < 1381697609 737282 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that alone makes it very interesting < 1381697641 25206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK, if you move into opponent what happens, is your path blocked, do you enter the same space, or what? < 1381697688 526470 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's blocked < 1381697711 239481 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you attack by either move from next to a monster to another tile next to it (it's hexa tiled) < 1381697738 119449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I think I once made up a chess variant like that < 1381697747 191393 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or moving in it's direction and sting < 1381697772 860956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or throw your lance (in which case you may not sting until you get it again) < 1381697794 313713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so every permanent way of attacking requires you to be able to move < 1381697830 511132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is understandable now < 1381697843 111093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes it is a bit similar to some chess variant I once made (although it wasn't hex) < 1381697881 481859 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nongnu.org/tong/ looks a bit like your third idea, even if it's not pinball < 1381697891 916521 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hex is great < 1381697944 384586 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i played some mix of minesweeper and dungeon ascending, very interesting idea < 1381697945 941969 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know Tong < 1381698119 554533 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know chessrogue? < 1381698136 801683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have played that too < 1381698152 289501 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, did you get that save btw < 1381698158 469808 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no < 1381698161 849440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have designed a roguelike called KING and someone reviewed it too < 1381698445 547213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what do you mean by "delayed by different amounts"? < 1381698562 268076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know exactly < 1381698746 276002 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 NICK :nooodl < 1381698927 570311 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, do you want the save < 1381698962 37771 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm torn between "yes" and keeping the game alive < 1381698971 314398 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i think i'll have to go for "no" though :( < 1381698983 53943 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should learn how to play df decently and then i could play in a couple of years!! < 1381698993 133089 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(plot twist: irl years) < 1381699004 822027 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really a plot twist < 1381699005 161663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get why people get so caught up on that, elliott was shit and he never let that stop him < 1381699034 613913 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to have that can-do spirit that leads to the fort collapsing utterly because it ran out of booze for no good reason < 1381699069 59021 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need a working military system < 1381699123 705064 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also writing a roguelike called "Savant's Maze"; rooms may be generated overlapping and one of the terrain is windows that you can see through but not move through. I implemented data structures, line of sight, level generation, and a few others and then I can add the rest. < 1381699151 935387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way i left it the only thing the military needed was for steel armour to be made; they'd train and equip themselves on their own < 1381699163 864438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well also they need to heal after that ambush < 1381699226 284178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: so if i get a virtual server thing to run shit on + stop annoying people by disconnecting who should i be renting from < 1381699267 786558 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like any other of my computer game ideas too? < 1381699388 371818 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea of guarding something, but it's missing < 1381699524 335853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I've used prgmr and tilaa so far, and both have been just fine. < 1381699541 345909 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight < 1381699568 436750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one could make a roguelike with some tourist exploring a dungeon on his own < 1381699576 615471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381699625 773075 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or anti-roguelikes < 1381699656 827555 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you are rodney and have to stop an adventurer < 1381699657 332070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: And esolangs.org is on linode, which is I think reasonably popular, if not quite the most "budget" option (though certainly also not the most expensive) out there. < 1381699693 832238 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that warning about not getting phished is scary < 1381699725 727560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had some nasty security issues a while back, but that could be a function of popularity too. < 1381699743 675480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i don't know what to do to avoid getting haxed. < 1381699794 314487 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone use a personal wiki or something similar? I need something to help me organise some stuff... < 1381699794 726481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't install Wordpress/Drupal/other-big-web-thing" seems to be a good step. < 1381699808 647311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: i used to use tiddlywiki < 1381699811 18791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: noted < 1381699825 464523 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hike: thanks, searching now. < 1381699849 93638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use DokuWiki. < 1381699872 187620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's perhaps less "personal". < 1381699887 916696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In that people use it "for reals". < 1381699899 868461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiddlywiki is just one page with a shitload of javascript, nice and easy < 1381699933 891672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for organizing stuff, there's of course good old venerable org-mode. < 1381699980 845216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some people[citation needed][who?][dubious - discuss] are very... ardent about org-mode. < 1381700033 96438 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it [weasel words] more than [citation needed] < 1381700047 326918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. < 1381700092 284049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perhaps not very dubious, but I like how the "dubious-discuss" sounds. < 1381700117 224500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's good < 1381700283 225993 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.67.177 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrr... wikipedia. "It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern: Notability" < 1381700511 151701 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :which article < 1381700552 211103 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one < 1381700597 32817 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia even deleted the subtitles for the modem dial-in sound :( < 1381700629 860272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the image? < 1381700705 229706 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1381700746 636382 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/dial-up-handshake-infographic.png this thing < 1381700762 192490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381700771 719852 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a dial-up modem sound < 1381700778 984873 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it got subtitles < 1381700788 694037 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i < 1381700789 836426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "bow beep beep beep" and stuff < 1381703142 176703 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381703145 558171 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:85be:3cd3:e932:910b JOIN :#esoteric < 1381703777 188661 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381703956 781634 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381704619 870736 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1381706574 112371 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.133.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381706804 34652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381707046 248626 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381707057 672093 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi all! < 1381707068 415603 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1381707144 661010 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am trying to solve a riddle where esoteric programming is involved, anybody willing to help me out with some really basic stuff? < 1381707165 998735 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1381707202 955968 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically i have shakespeare prorgamming code, and it should give me some "hello world"-like program outputting 2 numbers. < 1381707217 977226 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont know how to compile this kinda stuff < 1381707241 27792 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the wiki page have any resources < 1381707269 360009 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i found the compiler software for linux, unfortunately i dont run on linux and have next to zero knowledge on using it < 1381707296 802350 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my english isnt exactly the best < 1381707299 754262 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1381707343 826309 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there compiler softare for windows? < 1381707348 758788 :HegoDamask!51d93be0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.217.59.224 PRIVMSG #esoteric :software < 1381708318 204694 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381708627 324105 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is the code in? < 1381708755 354977 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google esolang shakespeare < 1381708756 327443 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Shakespeare < 1381708756 472951 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Shakespeare - Esolang