00:04:07 (The unit for measuring fuel consumption, that is; probably no specific term for distance-for-any-quantity-of-gas, because the conventional unit is the other way around.) 00:05:38 so you call L/hkm 'fuel consumption'? 00:06:04 "fuel economy" would be the most used term for that sort of ratio in the UK 00:08:35 Well, as a literal translation of what I think a Finn would say, "fuel consumption" sounds perhaps closest. 00:08:49 ("Polttoaineen kulutus.") 00:12:26 Also the unit gets typed as "l/100 km", I don't think you're supposed to combine SI prefixes. 00:14:01 there's no SI prefix for myriad? :( 00:15:10 nope 00:15:46 Apparently there kinda-sorta was in "pre-SI". 00:16:18 "The prefix myria-, ten thousand,[6][7] denoting a factor of 10000, originated from the Greek μύριοι (mýrioi), that is, myriad, for ten thousand, and the prefixes demi- and double-, denoting a factor of 1⁄2 and 2, respectively,[8] were parts of the original metric system adopted by France in 1795. These were not retained when the SI prefixes were internationally adopted by the 11th CGPM conference in 1960 --" 00:16:28 It would be the wrong unit anyway. 00:16:59 "10 mym" does not seem like much of an improvement over "100 km". 00:17:47 "In Sweden and Norway, the myriametre is still very common in everyday use (although not recognized or used officially). In these countries this unit is called mil." 00:18:01 liter på mila 00:18:57 hmm 00:19:07 It would be one lakhmeter, of course. 00:19:08 that's the common norwegian unit for the presently discussed concept 00:19:38 Which apparently is abbreviated to L, so l/Lm. 00:19:38 l/10km 00:23:48 "Poronkusema", lit. approx. "reindeer-pissing", is an old unit of distance from Lapland. 00:24:20 It's the distance you can ride a reindeer before giving it a bathroom break. 00:24:47 haha 00:25:30 wow i didn't know lappish raindeer were trained to use bathrooms 00:26:34 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_obsolete_units_of_measurement#Miscellaneous 00:30:25 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:31:42 Reindeer fuel economy is probably measured as jäkälää/poronkusema. (Lichens/) 00:32:15 :D 00:32:41 google has determined that the languages I most often translate from are Russian, Finnish, and Hungarian 00:32:44 i'm proud of myself 00:32:52 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 00:33:24 the first translation it gives for "poronkusema" is "Poronkusema" (capitalization sic) but the alternative is "piss of a reindeer" 00:34:07 `frink 1 l/km -> jäkälää/poronkusema 00:34:21 Warning: undefined symbol "jäkälää". \ Warning: undefined symbol "poronkusema". \ Warning: undefined symbol "jäkälää". \ Warning: undefined symbol "poronkusema". \ Warning: undefined symbol "jäkälää". \ Warning: undefined symbol "poronkusema". \ Warning: undefined symbol "jäkälää". \ Warning: undefined symbol "poronkusema". \ Unconv 00:34:35 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 00:36:56 -!- nooodl has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 00:54:32 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 00:54:58 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:59:51 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 01:12:51 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Nite). 01:17:38 -!- nisstyre has joined. 01:19:01 -!- muskrat has joined. 01:21:06 -!- muskrat has quit (Client Quit). 01:21:33 -!- muskrat has joined. 01:23:48 -!- variable has changed nick to constant. 01:24:42 -!- muskrat has quit (Client Quit). 01:33:16 -!- muskrat has joined. 01:49:04 -!- ais523 has quit. 01:54:22 -!- shikhin has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:55:26 -!- shikhin has joined. 02:44:55 -!- nooodl_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 02:47:25 -!- muskrat has left ("Leaving"). 02:55:50 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:01:32 How should I store rosetrees in SQL so that pattern matching is possible? 03:05:49 http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1984 "Dead Hand" 03:06:26 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war) 03:07:33 Yes, the SCP refers to that (as being an anomalous item other than what it's commonly believed to be) 03:19:45 oh man 03:19:57 do you guys know that malbolge was mentioned in a tv show? 03:19:58 elementary? 03:20:00 ahaha 03:20:28 augur: I think I have heard of that before. 03:20:33 thats fantastic :D 03:21:19 transcribing now 03:23:59 (`&%:0]!-}|z2Vzwv-,POqponl$Hjih%eB@@>}=,tcl(I&%$#"^CBV?Tx?! 03:24:25 google has no records for the first bit up to the unknown stuff 03:24:32 if its genuine malbolge, it was original 03:24:35 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 03:24:37 or at least not on the internet 03:24:46 someone on this TV show is a nerd 03:26:35 apparently there's a "translation" of the code in malbolge for attacking the random number generator in this episode 03:26:47 E(pi) = Q(pi)/Q(E)+Q(pi) 03:26:50 nonsense nodoubt 03:28:17 I don't know about such program. 03:30:30 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 03:39:04 If you are playing Pokemon card, and you have a card that says "The trash can is empty", then what are you going to do with it? My brother suggest some people might make up different interpretation of such an effect. 03:42:53 zzo38 is your brother on irc 03:43:16 Not on this IRC. 03:43:46 maybe one day??? 03:44:02 I don't know. 03:56:14 any C language lawyers about? 03:56:45 I made up this Pokemon card: Basic Pokemon E: { @ } HP: 3 W: - R: - RC: 0 /// POWER: Cannot retreat if confused or poisoned, but can retreat if sleep or paralyze, even if poisoned. 03:56:50 i'm only a C paralegal but go ahead 03:57:35 kmc: what is the difference between "extern int a = 10;" and "int a = 10;" (the initalizer is important) 03:57:38 /// { @ }: Discard { @ } attached to this card in order to use this attack. Toss coin, if heads opponent sleeps. If this card is knocked out before your next turn, opponent's active card is knocked out and return all energy cards attached to this card into your hand. /// { *** } [1] 03:57:52 Is this good? 03:57:57 "When the going gets tough, you don't want a criminal laywer, you want a CRIMINAL lawyer, know what I'm saying?" 03:58:12 constant: I've never seen extern with an initializer >_> 03:58:21 kmc: ack 03:59:20 I also made up the stage 1 card, which has HP 6, and has: POWER: Can use attack of basic form unless confused. /// { @@@ } [2]: Toss coin, if heads you may move 1 damage from one opponent's card to another. 04:10:03 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 04:10:23 is external with an initializer even legal 04:11:14 Bike: I don't know! Would it even mean anything? 04:12:02 This is one of the C edge cases I'm quite unfamiliar with. 04:12:13 constant: are you seeing this in actual code? 04:12:23 Bike: no 04:12:24 In what program? 04:12:24 I can only *assume* it's the same as "extern int a;int a = 10;"? But I cannot be certain. 04:12:32 Well. That is, if it's legal.. 04:12:32 Bike: zzo38: only legal is specific cases 04:12:39 that is, if you don't have a defintion 04:12:42 Which it mightn't be. 04:12:52 and if you try to use link it with another file which also defines it you get linker error 04:13:48 pikhq: Perhaps it ought to do that, but, I don't know if it will. 04:13:54 -!- Bike has quit (Quit: Reconnecting). 04:14:10 -!- Bike has joined. 04:15:10 zzo38: it does, I tried 04:18:05 OK 04:18:24 But is it standard to do that or is it implementation-specific feature? 04:28:51 zzo38: gcc and clang agree 04:28:56 across c99, c89 and c11 04:29:09 so it appears to be standards allowed if not standards required 04:29:18 both also *warn* in both cases 04:29:21 its just weird 04:29:25 * constant would consider it a standards bug 04:49:01 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Consensus 04:49:37 “both governments agree that there is only one sovereign state encompassing both mainland China and Taiwan” 04:50:00 are you new to the wondefulness that is china taiwan 04:50:37 i like the island that was shelled so hard that residents are still making stuff out of bomb metal 04:50:47 hee hee, cross-strait relations are great 04:55:33 -!- mnoqy has joined. 05:08:08 «I hold the conviction that there is a comparable phenomenon [to the influence of the Poincaré conjecture] today in the notion of a “polynomial time algorithm”. Algorithms are becoming worthy of analysis in their own right, not merely as a means to solve other problems. Thus I am suggesting that as the study of the set of solutions of an equation (e.g. a manifold) played such an important role in 20th century mathematics, the ... 05:08:14 ... study of finding the solutions (e.g. an algorithm) may play an equally important role in the next century.» bro it's 1998. 05:10:17 I have not read about extern with initializers in GCC documentation, and I have not mentioned it in the Black-C specification. 05:44:46 -!- NihilistDandy has quit. 05:59:01 How much do you know of ESC/P format for printing? 05:59:15 nothing. 06:02:20 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com). 06:14:47 -!- asie has joined. 06:22:51 hm. I find it amusing that it seems that quoting from the 80s hit "You Spin Me Around" is, in and of itself, considered a tad obscene. 06:23:57 is this a meatspin joke 06:24:18 well, that's the reason, yes. 06:25:18 so, compared to quoting various other 80s hits, you get slightly more nervous laughter 06:26:03 oh. i didn't think it was actually realted 06:28:36 well, it's obscene by association. being quoted in the right (or wrong) context can change what a song signifies culturally. 06:33:13 "By association" should not be allowed to count in many cases. 06:36:29 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 06:36:51 it's funny watching a video from the 1950s about a "computer" made of gears. 06:38:49 there's such a thing as a "snail cam". do you like this? 06:42:09 Bike.zzo38.moed++ 06:42:31 :D 06:42:46 I don't know it. 06:43:57 Do you know if there is a way to make a Haskell type which acts like the type I have called "enum" in mathematical descriptions of some things? 06:43:58 i had no idea you could make a cam to compute, like, tangent. 06:44:28 Bike: I don't know either! 06:45:01 or reciprocal. or apparently anything smooth. it looks weird 06:47:46 "the barrel contains an infinite number of cams" 06:54:15 -!- asie has joined. 06:59:09 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 07:11:30 I think I actually like racket/match better than Haskell pattern-matching 07:13:02 radix sort is everything that is terrible about computer science 07:13:46 Sgeo: How come? 07:13:50 coppro: how come 07:14:43 Beyond being able to make your own patterns, it has or and and 07:15:11 Sgeo: because it's theoretically linear but in all the worst ways 07:15:20 it works only on a restricted input dataset 07:15:45 BUT in 99% of real-world applications, these restrictions in fact exist 07:15:51 Wait, why are you replying to me? Was your radix sort statement in relation to racket/match? 07:15:51 Sgeo: Oh, I think Rust's pattern matching has OR but doesn't have AND 07:15:53 BUT it's still slower than other algorithms 07:16:01 because I can't read 07:16:02 Bike: ^ 07:16:57 Seriously, racket/match is starting to be the only place, besides macros, where I like Racket's approach more than Haskell's 07:17:09 Kind of depressing 07:17:20 * FreeFull merge sorts coppro 07:19:03 Oh, and first-class continuations 07:19:43 doesn't haskell have a cont monad for ya 07:20:51 There is a Cont monad, also known as the "mother of all monads" 07:21:16 I'm not especially inclined to call what Cont does "first-class continuations", though I need more thought 07:21:27 Yeah, what Racket does is probably nicer 07:22:00 Maybe I don't know how to express that Haskell's Cont monad doesn't allow for a monad syntax that first-class continuations in Racket do (by virtue of being mother of all monads) 07:22:59 Remember my "mamb" operator? 07:23:07 No. 07:23:26 Did coppro have a bad trip from LSD 07:23:27 -!- carado has joined. 07:24:35 (define (mamb ma) (shift k (return (>>= ma k)))) 07:24:37 I think 07:39:31 Jafet: probably not 07:45:03 Racket debugger doesn't work well with stuff run from the REPL 07:45:04 :( 07:55:25 -!- Taneb has joined. 08:00:29 Oh 08:01:04 -!- SingingBoyo has joined. 08:01:18 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:15:05 http://pasterack.org/pastes/9079 08:16:31 :( 08:17:01 Why :( ? 08:17:09 Maybe I should have it output 08:18:25 uh http://pasterack.org/pastes/8324 08:18:30 I swear it works on my computer 08:19:06 Ok, that version doesn't 08:19:59 http://pasterack.org/pastes/1950 08:29:22 -!- epicmonkey has joined. 08:33:25 Sgeo, because lisps are scary and I'm ill 08:35:31 -!- mnoqy has quit (Quit: hello). 08:35:54 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I... I don't think char could require more than 1 alignment @_@ 14:32:53 then code that did, like malloc(70) couldn't store 70 chars 14:33:50 you could ask ##c maybe or something...? it doesn't feel right though 14:34:22 k 14:39:48 -!- constant has changed nick to trout. 14:39:59 mroman: I'm pretty sure you can't have an alignment larger than sizeof. 14:40:13 Because array elements are spaced at sizeof byte intervals, and array elements need to be aligned. 14:40:42 still 14:40:52 int32_t could have a 16 byte alignment requirement 14:41:02 No, it couldn't. 14:41:17 says who? 14:41:56 int32_t a[2] must have both a[0] and a[1] aligned suitably for int32_t, and (char *)&a[1] == (char *)&a[0] + sizeof (int32_t). 14:42:51 is the second part a C requirement? 14:43:13 I'm pretty sure it is. And I'm entirely sure it is for the case of a char array. 14:43:37 As in, char a[2] must have both a[0] and a[1] aligned suitably for a char, and &a[1] == &a[0] + 1. 14:45:01 I wonder what compilers do with long double for that...? like I think the type is 10 bytes but it's often aligned to 16? maybe the sizeof just gets set to 16... 14:45:05 so 14:45:12 &a[1] == &a[0] + sizeof(char)? 14:45:19 Fiora: The sizeof is either 12 or 16 for GCC. 14:45:25 mroman: sizeof(char) == 1. 14:45:34 yes 14:45:54 but does the equation &[1] ==&a[0] + 1 hold for char? 14:46:15 suitably aligned doesn't really mean, that you can do + 1 and get the next element? 14:46:15 fizzie: that makes sense... 14:46:23 so 14:46:25 mroman: &[1] does not mean anything, but other than that. 14:46:29 if sizeof were to include alignment requirements 14:46:41 then it is well defined 14:46:46 so 14:47:16 if my int32_t is 4 bytes long, but has an 8 byte alignment requirement 14:47:22 is sizeof(int32_t) == 8? 14:47:57 I don't think it's allowed to. 14:48:14 intN_t are not allowed to have padding bytes. 14:48:17 Also "An array type descirbes a *contiguously allocated* (emphasis mine) nonempty set of objects --" so I'm pretty sure (char *)&a[1] == (char *)&a[0] + sizeof a[0] for any type for a. 14:48:49 I think the fixed-length types require 8-bit chars? so like, int32_t has to be size 4 14:49:01 and um if I remember right the signed ones have to be 2s-complement 14:49:20 Fiora: I think CHAR_BIT == 16 is legal for an implementation with an int32_t. 14:49:31 You'd just have a sizeof (int32_t) == 2 there. 14:50:07 But CHAR_BIT needs to be either 8, 16 or 32 for int32_t to exist, because it cannot have any padding, and all sizes are in multiples of CHAR_BIT. 14:50:25 And you can't define int8_t if CHAR_BIT > 8, of course. 14:50:36 that makes sense... 14:50:52 I just remember someone telling me that sizeof(int32_t) was redundant or something <_<; 14:50:56 but does contigously disallow padding bytes? 14:51:00 but maybe they were wrong 14:51:26 mroman: Perhaps that's arguable. There might be something more applicable. 14:52:09 mroman: Do note that absolutely everything allocates n * sizeof (type) bytes of memory for an n-element array of type, which wouldn't work if sizeof didn't include any padding. 14:57:54 well 14:58:03 I've got the solution 14:58:17 sizeof array / sizeof array[0] must yield the number of elements of array 14:58:18 so 14:58:22 char array[10]; 14:58:32 sizeof array[0] == sizeof char == 1 14:58:36 therefore, sizeof array = 10 14:58:53 but yes 14:59:06 the contigously allocation already requires, that there's no padding 14:59:09 I don't see why "sizeof array / sizeof array[0] must yield the number of elements of array" is any more or less obvious than "n * sizeof (type) is the size of an array", unless you have a paragraph to cite. 15:01:18 Another use of the sizeof operator is to compute the number of elements in an array: 15:01:21 6 15:01:24 sizeof array / sizeof array[0] 15:01:29 6.5.3.4 15:01:46 mroman: Non-normative example. 15:01:48 But still. 15:01:56 well 15:02:04 the it's an example in the standard 15:02:07 *it's 15:02:14 It's still non-normative. 15:02:15 "Directives, this foreword, the introduction, notes, footnotes, and examples 15:02:15 are also for information only. 15:02:28 oh 15:02:28 ok 15:02:29 :( 15:02:59 http://sprunge.us/EIIg -- slightly related. 15:04:18 I was wondering how that'd work for an array of direct int32_t _Alignas(16) type, but the _Alignas in an array declaration applies to the array type, not the element type, and you can't have an _Alignas specifier in a typedef. 15:04:56 (A single int32_t _Alignas(16) a; seems to have a sizeof of 4, but that's perhaps not a problem.) 15:11:34 is _Alignas standard C? 15:11:51 apparentely not 15:12:11 It is, in C11. 15:14:09 "sizeof (t) must indeed be a multiple of A(t) [alignment of t]", has the committee clarified in its answer for DR #074 in 93: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_074.html 15:15:38 And the question refers to the contiguous alignment requirement and correct alignment of array elements, so presumably that is also the official correct way of deriving the requirement. 15:27:56 -!- nisstyre has joined. 15:33:46 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 15:36:56 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 15:38:39 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:46:44 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 15:50:08 -!- conehead has joined. 15:58:29 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 15:59:39 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 16:11:55 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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I get +3 to Swim, and are going on a boat. 19:05:38 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 19:06:49 are you going fast 19:08:25 -!- muskrat has quit (Quit: Leaving). 19:09:07 I don't know how fast it is yet. 19:09:46 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 19:10:08 We didn't actually do that part of the game yet, but we entered the boat. (And on the same day we had to go on a real boat after te game is played.) 19:14:40 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 19:16:06 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 19:20:05 Maybe this bonus is useful if the boat falls down or if they tell us to get out of the boat. My character also has a sailor skill so that might also be useful too in case the captain falls off or whatever (the familiar therefore also has the same skill but probably cannot use it very well). 19:20:51 -!- carado has joined. 19:40:04 -!- asie has joined. 19:54:45 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 19:55:52 -!- shikhin_ has joined. 19:58:58 -!- asie has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...). 19:59:10 -!- shikhin has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds). 20:06:08 -!- Taneb has joined. 20:09:19 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 20:15:03 * pikhq notes that Pokemon X/Y be awesome 20:15:12 meh 20:15:35 I realized after BW that the replay value has basically gone from pokemon games for me 20:15:43 Last game I played in the series was Emerald, so. 20:15:46 fair 20:16:49 Will it improve by modifying the game with cheat codes, ROM hacks, and/or self-imposed restrictions? 20:20:37 Also, yeah, Pokemon is not exactly a series that you want to play each and every time it comes out. 20:21:20 The replay value is such that it merits a long enough span of time between replays that the game seems fresh. 20:21:30 -!- Vorpal_ has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net). 20:21:31 Or autism powers. 20:21:41 zzo38: self-imposed restrictions, yes, others, no 20:21:42 pikhq: haha 20:23:04 pikhq: I was so badly sucked into Y I like, beat it in two days 20:23:05 Which fits, given that Satoshi Tajiri is literally autistic... 20:24:19 I'm tempted to keep playing just to get some nicer clothes but rune factory 4 and etrian odyssey said no 20:25:07 I *might* consider playing the inevitable Z since they tend to really up the ante on those games 20:25:12 but probably not 20:25:18 I have far too much other stuff to eat my time 20:25:19 I'm not sure they'll do a Z, given they didn't do a pokemon grey 20:25:40 they did. Black/White 2. 20:25:48 ^ 20:26:15 that was a sequel though! not like platinum or something 20:29:28 I got X this afternoon 20:29:53 Also, god there's a lot of games I'll probably be playing on here. 20:29:56 * pikhq never had a DS 20:30:04 I have "Akagi DS". 20:30:08 Last portable console I owned was a GBA. 20:30:15 A launch GBA. 20:31:16 Fiora: platinum was sort of a sequel 20:31:33 The Akagi DS game is a mahjong game which include Washizu mahjong too. 20:31:47 pikhq: last i owned was a GBC, last game i played on it was pokemon silver, get off my lawn etc 20:32:16 pikhq: yeah, like not long after launch a friend convinced me to get a 3DS and I've been playing DS/3DS games ever since, I think I'veplayed dozens now 20:32:19 there's so many good ones 20:33:13 pokemon is just so slow... god 20:33:13 i've played through two pokemon games but i don't think i could've done it without emulator speed-up. seriously 20:33:50 I agree it is slow. There are some options to speed it up a bit, such as turning off animations and set battle mode to "SET", although it is still slow. 20:34:17 Thankfully, they've done a lot of stuff to speed up the travelling bits. 20:34:21 Fiora: i keep telling myself it's not worth it to buy *yet another* ds but there's so many good games for 3ds it's really tough 20:34:26 (by god, running shoes) 20:34:35 nooodl: yet another? 20:34:51 lexande: I bought a GBC for Blue, FWIW. 20:35:49 yeah i've bought 2 ds's :( 20:36:17 i find the 2ds hilarious 20:37:02 I do have a "SuperCard DS" device but now it is broken, and Akagi DS is the only DS game card I have. 20:37:04 Yeah. The 3DSXL even seems awkward. 20:37:21 -!- nooodl_ has joined. 20:37:37 -!- nooodl has quit (Disconnected by services). 20:37:49 -!- nooodl_ has changed nick to nooodl. 20:40:09 I have a Game Boy somewhere, but I haven't seen it in a while. Wonder where it ended up. 20:40:17 Also something like a ten (10!) games for it, maybe. 20:41:25 Though I couldn't quite enumerate them. Tetris, SML1, SML2, some tennis thing, maybe some golf thing, a Qix clone (or maybe it's just Qix) and that one game with the balloons. 20:43:24 Ducktales too. 20:43:25 that game with the baloons was awesome 20:43:39 It's "Balloon Kid", apparently. 20:47:48 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 20:47:52 -!- ais523 has joined. 20:56:18 -!- muskrat has joined. 21:05:07 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 21:05:39 -!- SingingBoyo has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 21:35:01 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 21:39:30 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 21:46:01 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 21:53:02 -!- carado has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 21:58:51 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 22:10:08 -!- muskrat has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:14:33 -!- Phantom___Hoover has joined. 22:23:19 -!- muskrat has joined. 22:24:52 -!- ^v has joined. 22:44:50 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 22:45:15 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 22:57:08 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 23:02:54 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 23:10:44 -!- ais523 has quit. 23:13:49 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:33:35 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de). 23:33:51 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:46:31 -!- epicmonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 23:55:15 -!- nooodl has quit (Quit: Ik ga weg). 23:58:42 -!- ^v has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:59:08 -!- ^v has joined.