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seconds < 1382331875 277083 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382331925 354592 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382331960 809974 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382332023 251027 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :THis seems this-channel-y. http://imgur.com/a/3XdPg < 1382332320 258340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382332677 691424 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382332785 684622 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382332794 635723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1382332960 772231 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382333461 239513 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382334230 385960 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1382334331 808939 :SingingBoyo!~SingingBo@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382334782 208742 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382335530 867636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ⱳɦỏả̉, ɗủɗẻ < 1382335771 492437 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382336130 998249 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382336135 995092 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: :-) < 1382336272 159603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you halt on all inputs? < 1382336272 536352 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i just can't pick one. lifes too short to waste on puzzling out that crap. nootropics are better. < 1382336278 189174 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382336280 880368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very pragmatic. < 1382336301 454552 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, fungot. < 1382336301 689446 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to get a useful answer, now, about what you want < 1382336302 356410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good attitude, fungot < 1382336302 834786 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: _lo__ina__inihili_ili_i_ation ' !hangman lcase-guess' to guess a letter! lambdabot :d. ( which means mzscheme) < 1382336308 247384 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1382336396 601030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you're scary < 1382336396 900845 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that was an awesome game. 10k is plenty of ways to cheat. < 1382336405 709527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't remember writing a hangman game in there. < 1382336405 882004 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( sounds worse than it was it first. < 1382336421 650706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you read _The Mysterious Island_ y/n < 1382336476 296286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1382336488 407157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1382336505 587320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget < 1382336520 242613 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382336559 401855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i funget < 1382336571 38507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw english makes no sense) < 1382336611 765304 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382336672 245857 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382338541 452694 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1382341120 52747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382341694 896643 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382341764 999626 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382343696 502466 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382344874 849790 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382344971 126463 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382345006 242587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "Subject: MATLAB Digest | Academic Edition - October 2013" " Adding Fun to First-Year Computer Programming Classes with MATLAB, --" < 1382345024 291067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That probably needs no comment.) < 1382345334 959156 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they'll change the MATLAB syntax so that'll be a pun < 1382346009 329749 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382346043 712722 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382346770 58082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: one of the built-in MATLAB demos is called "funfuns": http://sprunge.us/VgjS < 1382346823 382463 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382346869 10133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The demo is built around the function HUMPS. The function has two humps.) < 1382346933 604134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the FUNTOOL for working with functions. < 1382348615 291396 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382349619 22274 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1382349693 214324 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382349883 70043 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1382350101 744486 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1382350768 817196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just sent myself (and other recipients) an email, to and from my University email account, using University wi-fi, and entirely using University servers for every hop; it took 15 minutes to arrive < 1382350773 181985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how it's getting so delayed < 1382350797 257927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greylisting somewhere. (Well, likely not. But it's possible.) < 1382350815 857541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could check the timestamps in the Received: headers to see if a particular hop took a long time. < 1382350893 402605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other hypotheticals: long queue in some mandatory transparent virus scan; spam filtering systems configured to wait for DNS blacklist replies and pointed at something that's offline + long timeouts.) < 1382350912 939902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the last one, by the look of it; all the received headers are within a minute of the initial send < 1382350926 369504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I'm being stupid and that's just how long it took my client to do a send/receive operatoin < 1382350930 472690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*operation < 1382351005 452606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMAP is supposed to be clever (cf. IMAP IDLE) about that kind of stuff. But sometimes it isn't. < 1382351117 283011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, amusing thing I noticed in the headers; my hostname on this netbook/laptop/thing is "desert", and something else along the line is called "camel", meaning that many of the lines end "camel@desert" < 1382351171 415705 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382351260 240704 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382351263 902482 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382351281 755078 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Client Quit < 1382351592 63204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is considerably more amusing than the identifiers in headers here, which tend to be things like smtp-out-01, mx06, EXHUB03. < 1382351687 762716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, there's a mail server at the ICS department called "marconi", which is at least thematically appropriate.) < 1382352216 997799 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-100.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382352289 227966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382352304 39154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382352590 127271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1382352781 952393 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1382352899 717695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Bike: _lo__ina__inihili_ili_i_ation ' !hangman lcase-guess' to guess a letter! lambdabot :d. ( which means mzscheme) <-- i'll try f, thanks < 1382352899 922845 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but if a is not bound, not a variable < 1382352921 82574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a is already there! < 1382352921 397107 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not that i know what ensuring hygiene is. try to lurk for a couple shorthand features that make it hard to write < 1382352932 481284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a filthy robot < 1382353106 547298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (The demo is built around the function HUMPS. The function has two humps.) <-- a bactrian function. < 1382353343 740145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun MATLAB fact: variables are case-sensitive, but functions are case-insensitive. < 1382353356 240421 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382353368 122764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Presumably because function names derive from file names, and case-insensitive file systems are a thing.) < 1382353417 830912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure it's not just case-insensitive on windows. < 1382353442 586879 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/2013091200] < 1382353508 475160 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, I have calculus homework < 1382353658 41316 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-100.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382353659 459882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think you are right! Which makes their ubiquitous convention of uppercasing function names in all documentation quite bizarre. < 1382353676 370236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because the actual names are lowercase on case-sensitive systems.) < 1382353703 786406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn you realize a was joking < 1382353706 405477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i < 1382353777 708099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were, but then it was true, so I rethought that perhaps you knew something. < 1382353894 608841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382353921 699846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382353973 834531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently since R14 it is case-sensitive on Windows too, but there the behaviour on case mismatch is to print out a warning and then call the function. < 1382353985 18323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(While on Linux it prints out an error and suggests the correct case.) < 1382353997 999292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy. < 1382354052 337115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's error on Windows too, starting from R2011b. < 1382354101 123540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, my fun MATLAB fact was in fact (pun not intended) a not-so-fun MATLAB lie, when talking about modern versions. < 1382354120 288272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the documentation still bizarre, though < 1382354125 871617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1382354159 668864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1382354170 850381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/aJXS < 1382354345 707282 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382354407 346946 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1382354615 805979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Neighbors and carpentry, the homicidal combination. < 1382354787 356073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1382354964 343946 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382355134 242048 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382355301 324267 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Client Quit < 1382355587 328724 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382355707 932295 :ski!~md9slj@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1382355762 567379 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382356037 245544 :ais523_!93bcc34a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382356922 889505 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1382357105 431074 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382357160 733973 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382357170 420383 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382357266 195613 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1382357502 425204 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382357646 549258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382358947 330320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! 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< 1382376336 124225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Bike's suggestion is good. talk about fourier series. < 1382376348 926629 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, what about fourier series are you to talk about. < 1382376369 657604 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, an introduction to them, a bit about Fourier himself, and something else about some identity? < 1382376414 909355 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you read fourier's original paper? that would probably help for introduction ("dude invented them for the heat equation") and for fourier himself if there's an intro to it ("something something napoleon??") < 1382376517 975784 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right yeah he was in charge of egypt for a while < 1382376559 417947 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111117 < 1382376602 741761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is an adjunction? < 1382376628 522508 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some category theory thing that's not very useful for making jpegs < 1382376684 200323 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn adjunction < 1382376685 865721 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "adjunction" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1382376686 11198 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjunction < 1382376686 11371 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: an act of joining or adjoining things [syn: {junction}, < 1382376686 11477 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : {adjunction}] < 1382376691 586201 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :genius < 1382376710 125346 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1382376715 317873 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck adjunction < 1382376727 866146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm. my bot is once again dead... < 1382376738 766162 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382376740 619233 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck adjunction < 1382376741 82838 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjoint definition: the transpose of a matrix in which each element is replaced by its cofactor. < 1382376750 173909 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck adjoint functor < 1382376750 319276 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In mathematics, specifically category theory, adjunction is a possible relationship between two functors. < 1382376756 569386 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol thanks < 1382376759 735552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1382376761 471825 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peit on a rubiks cube < 1382376764 90423 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot my life. < 1382376764 502910 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: other than that cfunge is pretty finished, other parts aren't changing or are changing slowly... yesterday. can it get knocked over on their sides ( the structures, not in < 1382376849 710001 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382376883 616255 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck adjoint functors arise everywhere < 1382376883 761655 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1382376969 942308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fungot < 1382376970 241916 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1382376970 429741 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: which repl are you using plt? < 1382376975 675697 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, csi. < 1382376976 117151 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i get it. a closure whose template field is not correctly set. i suspect some people or programs might also like cooking with beer < 1382377015 62535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I thought chicken's closures where one of its selling points. and yes, I do enjoy cooking with beer. preferably with the beer inside me. < 1382377015 633787 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: razor-x is sorry for raping you. erections can last for weeks or months. :p it was like a crash course. i'll use elisp macros to generate statements for characters in most scheme systems, so you < 1382377026 258117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: IIIIEEEEEURGH! < 1382377179 910211 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382377233 822771 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382377285 670462 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382377340 422254 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382377476 575386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what. < 1382377476 801093 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: masters degree is supposed to be what they do < 1382377528 67249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are vile, uncouth, and you use elisp macros! < 1382377528 525935 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: destroyer of worlds". exactly. your life will be so fast that you can speak with me i'll just keep on reading, then. < 1382377576 127751 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you better do. < 1382377576 570360 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's a funny thought. i may tweak it a bit later. it's not physically possible for x&4 to have more fun learn more on the language < 1382377583 216408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no. no trans-humanistic upload to the cloud for me, thank you very much. and if you just could *not* destroy the world, I'll be very happy. probably other people too, but yeah. no destruction for you. < 1382377583 491432 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's slow, but that's definitely a male. not by far < 1382377621 989798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm male, but I ain't slow. I'm a Canadian! < 1382377622 169837 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: error while getting interface flags: no such file < 1382377634 771984 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you sure that you exist? < 1382377635 770317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. Canada unexistence strikes again! < 1382377641 569654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: not anymore. < 1382377646 799178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boil: adjunctions are p. good < 1382377658 403595 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are they really, though? < 1382377658 726394 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the 32 one probably looks correct because i practically wrote it. maybe they were busy". and he denies having reading h2g2. < 1382377660 12207 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shacha: you sure? < 1382377667 2464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"not very useful for making jpegs" is the best description. < 1382377694 422857 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true!!! < 1382377706 442590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: according to the Fizzian Bot, there are 32 adjunctions total. probably related to the 36 stratagems or something. < 1382377714 178002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you very useful for making jpegs? < 1382377714 325154 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: standards change over time. < 1382377728 580849 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very wise < 1382377741 161149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you useful for making jpeg2000s < 1382377741 615299 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, the cond in body not be colored as well, if you use direct slot access is not efficent) is friendly to lisp startups. it < 1382377744 543325 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :When was the last JPEG standard released anyway? < 1382377764 413590 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :When were? < 1382377767 213768 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1382377785 984310 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what will Unicode 7.0 include... < 1382377798 674245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does JPEG2000 count? < 1382377810 800900 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or JPEG XR or other such things.) < 1382377835 362596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+3E8A0 COMBINING ADJOINT TO THE LEFT < 1382377862 497538 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess not < 1382377893 915531 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the last JPEG standard was released in 2013. < 1382377905 484740 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=59634 < 1382377918 234187 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: have you considered writing "Irreplaceable" to be about adjunctions < 1382377919 959104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Part of the "real" JPEG series.) < 1382378062 328388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“[The Tertiary Ideographic Plane] is reserved for Oracle Bone script, Bronze Script, Small Seal Script, additional CJK unified ideographs, and other historic ideographic scripts.” no mention if that'll appear in 7.0. < 1382378084 364262 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378153 210573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: most of the Oracle database system is written in Oracle Bone script. < 1382378155 107601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not.) < 1382378168 130673 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1382378177 203392 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they really call han "ideographic" huh < 1382378190 62531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do. < 1382378207 351251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if only it'd be so... the world would be a muche better place imho. < 1382378234 333277 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought using "ideogram" for han was considered bad now < 1382378241 816725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since han characters are kind of... not ideas < 1382378292 935110 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are some very nice chars in the SIP, e.g. U+20BA7 TELEVISION SET) < 1382378302 715269 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good character < 1382378306 391019 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20BA6, says I. < 1382378318 139221 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't count. “1... 2... 5...”
< 1382378401 123564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378445 875496 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378539 331284 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: skipping 4 is okay, people would think you're enumerating prime numbers or fibonacci or whatever. but THREE? you can't miss THREE!! < 1382378600 974127 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: 3 is complicated. < 1382378626 260878 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, right? 3 is a crowd. < 1382378641 874613 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1382378654 241290 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378873 894724 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.157.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378934 588046 :Rosette!~kwakuanim@41.93.150.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382378959 358568 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Rosette < 1382378962 813231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08R03oset07te: Welcom12e to the in05terna05tion10al hub for esoteric programming l12anguage13 design a10nd deployment! For m13o14re13 06informat09i07on, che03ck out our wiki: http://eso03lang08s.org10/wi05k10i/Ma14in_P09a10ge. (For the other kind of es11ot07erica05, try #es05ote04r05i07c on ir10c.dal.net.) < 1382379032 912303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy color scheme today < 1382379062 456164 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: three, sir. < 1382379070 493272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you can skip 3 if you're listing powers of 2. < 1382379082 409868 :Rosette!~kwakuanim@41.93.150.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1382379084 204299 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1382379088 547892 :Rosette!~kwakuanim@41.93.150.213 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1382379193 165193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lobs the Holy Fungot of Helsinki over at... uhm... who would fit the killer rabbit the most?
< 1382379207 872962 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmt < 1382379239 60435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in Espoo hth < 1382379256 61367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, some people actually care about the difference. < 1382379265 33876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if any are here, though. < 1382379410 197014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the lazy me lumps Vantaa with Helsinki, but you're right to say Espoo's different. < 1382379419 195200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the metro doesn't get there yet, for example. < 1382379811 231123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're digging as fast as they can, though. < 1382379817 219846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe not quite as fast as all that.) < 1382379849 203352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO < 1382379858 435232 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi zzo < 1382379862 896081 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello zzo < 1382379871 328376 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1382379880 900413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the metro does not get to Vantaa either, and it's not even going to. < 1382379900 874104 :Rosette!~kwakuanim@41.93.150.213 PART :#esoteric < 1382379953 71803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I guess they've got a couple of plans, but nothing as concrete as the Espoo extension.) < 1382379985 504414 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah digging a metro out of concrete is pretty hard < 1382380092 932411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are knowing a better way to traverse and pattern match rose trees which are stored in a SQL database? < 1382380114 392502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In a way that can be accessed from within SQL programs) < 1382380392 56346 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Koen_: why bother digging a metro when the suburban railway lines already go that way? < 1382380396 854479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, maybe the Helsinki Metro will get all the way to Montréal! < 1382380440 349569 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: eh, I don't know. I've never understood these nordic people < 1382380498 81859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: You mean, to Vantaa? < 1382380527 138630 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382380528 930690 :NihilistDandy!~ND@132.198.157.137 QUIT : < 1382380560 346022 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "East Metro" was supposed to go near the coast to Sipoo, the trains don't go there. < 1382380568 429020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it does cross a bit of Vantaa there too. < 1382380637 786957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And (just my gut feeling; I'm sure Serious People have spent more Serious Thoughts on this) I don't think there's yet quite enough people living in there to make it worthwhile, but maybe in the future. < 1382380727 181300 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know which bits of MSETBL (in the Z-machine) are corresponding to which menus? < 1382380759 200686 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, to Vantaa < 1382380786 821324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Well, no, I don't think anyone's planning to extend the subway to Tikkurila or anything, just generally eastwards. < 1382380833 585919 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382380877 21341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I remember there were originally plans to have the subway branch northwards, there was even a subway station dug in Munkkivuori that was never used for anything. < 1382380937 222351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done in the 1960s. < 1382380986 934552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were pictures of the "cave" somewhere, but I can't find any good ones now. < 1382381079 900870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is ##UrbanTransportation I'm talking on, right?) < 1382381098 595268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: channel name invented, I don't know what the real one is.) < 1382381124 44964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's #cslounge-trains < 1382381186 260497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite easily guessed < 1382381291 905199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :##OerjanTransportation < 1382381313 30948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym ##feet < 1382381326 797112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"itym ##stinkyfeet" no wait that would be mean < 1382381359 624975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they're particularly stinky, although that may change when i finally change to my winter shoes < 1382381501 499520 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1382382071 708226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is cslounge, and why does cslounge-trains exist? < 1382382075 949516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do these apples have sticky skin, it's appalling < 1382382086 28881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, swat yourself. < 1382382198 597488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's a bit sour, despite being nominally red. as was yesterday's apple. not very appealing. < 1382382261 105337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they could, like, classify by taste instead of color. < 1382382261 450519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only eat the sourest green apples they sell in the local shop. < 1382382272 318760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: gah! < 1382382289 731727 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382382310 507206 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382382321 322419 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1382382363 682838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also like redcurrants a lot, so possibly it's my fault. < 1382382417 836806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really a fan here. < 1382382439 352457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite that we had them in our garden when i grew up < 1382382494 829204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, i like very little sour food. < 1382382500 119220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382382501 228002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are redcurrants different from blackcurrants except the color? < 1382382531 22760 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: #cslounge is a channel for the extended social group of some people who studied CS at CMU in a particular period of time < 1382382543 691612 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382382551 840087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: completely different taste. blackcurrants are _not_ sour when ripe. < 1382382553 906581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not that friendly to outsiders < 1382382556 909508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #cslounge-trains is < 1382382566 835072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lexande is the king of that channel or something < 1382382573 321043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we had those in the garden too.) < 1382382588 545377 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#cslounge-trains exists because me, yeah < 1382382622 261607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like blackcurrants very much. Because they're not so sour. < 1382382627 710380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course in norwegian the names are not even related. (redcurrant = no:rips, blackcurrant = no:solbær) < 1382382646 215195 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're red and black "wineberries" in swedish < 1382382651 282796 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Punaviinimarja", "mustaherukka". (Though "punaherukka" *is* used as an alternative.) < 1382382654 358003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see they're actually the same genus, though. < 1382382659 944905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "viinimarja" is "wineberry". < 1382382695 325626 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. fr:groseille and fr:cassis. < 1382382845 694276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh gooseberry is _also_ the same genus, that's the third kind of berry bush we had < 1382382846 901417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there's a berry named in your honour → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccinium_elliottii < 1382382860 864320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's kind of the "standard set" of berry bushes here too. < 1382382966 230913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Often combined with some rhubarb. < 1382382970 650893 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't trust gooseberries < 1382382996 799889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we had rhubarb. also raspberry and strawberries. < 1382383037 451037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How surprising, we (well, not *here* in the city, but the place of my grandparents' in the country) had all of those too. < 1382383038 75837 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blueberries are the best! < 1382383050 115123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :other things varied by year, i guess. < 1382383053 598930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-wild blueberries are kind of "meh", I believe. < 1382383060 166563 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382383090 392222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unhip blueberries < 1382383097 614431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think people actually cultivate-grow blueberries very much, but there's certainly a lot of it collected from the wild. < 1382383113 791624 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudberry is the best berry I know < 1382383143 457266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think maybe there were blueberries in the forest nearby until it grew completely dense. < 1382383170 648779 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :bananas are pretty good berries as well < 1382383187 46680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even an ongoing scandal about people from Thailand coming to Finland to pick wild berries, because there's a sort of a generic permission to do that on anyone's land. < 1382383199 519914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a long way to go for some berries < 1382383200 713433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically it started out mostly as swamp, which was gradually drained when/after the house was built. < 1382383218 2796 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone was willing to come from thailand to pick blackberries in my yard i think i'd let them < 1382383219 765467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Allegations of human trafficking this and that, there's some sort of a thing. < 1382383226 33046 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we could share cobbler < 1382383341 56230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there's some cloudberries around the swamp/lake at the summer cottage, though it's not a *terribly* good place for them. < 1382383368 81844 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :scamming foreign berrypickers is a reoccuring scandal in sweden as well < 1382383453 450585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icenews.is/2013/09/22/thai-berry-pickers-refuse-to-board-flight-out-of-finland/ < 1382383454 424028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've picked cloudberries, although we usually had to go a bit out of the way for those. < 1382383600 669305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It seems your this year's scandal is pretty much identical to ours. < 1382383629 867021 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not up to date with this year's scandal afaik, but I assume it's the same as every year < 1382383722 974785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "The Norwegian government, in cooperation with Finnish, Swedish and Scottish counterparts, has vigorously pursued the aim of enabling commercial production of various wild berries (Norway imports 200 - 300 tonnes of cloudberries per year from Finland)." < 1382383799 388708 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've put that thing (the berry, not some sort of symbolical reference to Norway importinh them) in our coin too. (Didn't remember that.) < 1382383831 353332 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, commercial production of wild berries? < 1382383834 101966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scotland is a Nordic Country??? < 1382383864 427788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Did it say that somewhere? < 1382383878 485563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, "counterpart", I think every place has a government. < 1382383935 453540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. that's boring. < 1382383950 342958 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was something about Scotland being something, though. < 1382383955 345693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Very specific, I know.) < 1382384142 644907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading Wikipédia's “Scandinavian Scotland” article
< 1382384151 228618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_to_roam < 1382384253 553678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a book of icelandic sagas, one of them is about a guy who among other things sails down to england to help king whatshisname crush northumberland < 1382384256 579968 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1382384261 368288 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-211.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382384261 513728 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by "a guy" i mean "a viking" < 1382384276 937823 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1382384323 21853 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, did you know that during the crushing of Northumberland, the church in Hexham was burnt down? < 1382384335 748733 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is a sampo? < 1382384337 147659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE AnotherTest | rainbow < 1382384337 292693 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did actually < 1382384340 386092 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​11AnOtHeRtEsT: wEl05CoMe tO ThE InTeR04nAtIoNaL H06u04B FoR EsOt12ErIc pRo14GrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeS05iGn aNd11 10dEpLoYm14EnT! fOr 13mOrE 06InFoRmAtIoN, 07cH03eCk oUt oUr wIkI:10 06hTtP://EsOlAnGs14.oRg12/wIkI/M10aIn_pAgE.12 11(FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF Es08OtErI03cA, tRy #Es02OtErIc oN Ir09C06.D12aL.10N11eT.) < 1382384367 365922 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1382384368 779381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1382384384 517421 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's not a proper viking raid without some church burning < 1382384473 220805 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Question about stabilizers. Could you scetch a proof that the index of the stabilzer of p, G_p, in G is the order of the orbital of G containing p; |pG| = (G : G_p) < 1382384487 714575 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, for some reason *this* rainbow welcome caused a flashback to the time of writing quickbasic programs printing text in various colors < 1382384494 722020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird that that never happened before < 1382384505 520816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the definition of stabilizer again. < 1382384505 989383 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is this something very logical? Because in this book I'm reading it's not really proven, and I don't immediately see why that is true < 1382384524 694884 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: set of elements that leave p \in G unchanged under a group action < 1382384552 4240 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, I'm pretty sure William Wallace burnt the same church down < 1382384596 227505 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-211.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1382384718 796358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: well hm it's probably simple... < 1382384792 365093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait is G acting on itself. < 1382384808 309681 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, not necessairily I think < 1382384821 8583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so p is not necessarily in G. < 1382384821 235265 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1382384834 135747 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is acting on itself < 1382384861 600931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd imagine it's true even if it doesn't. < 1382384927 521628 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, on the other hand < 1382384932 147911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like this: for every element in the orbital pick an element of G sending p to it; then all elements in G are a unique multiple of the chosen element sending p to the same thing and an element of the stabilizer. < 1382384938 714205 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think p \in S not p \in G < 1382384959 478862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so |G| = |pG| * |G_p| < 1382385005 836049 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why is the index of G_p in G |pG|? < 1382385006 410831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i leave it as an exercise to multiply things in the right order :P) < 1382385013 194520 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1382385021 104743 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1382385054 878458 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382385075 168511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you understand the idea of my sketch? < 1382385165 213139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about pairing G with tuples from pG, G_p < 1382385167 181382 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not really < 1382385180 480443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bijection between G and pG x G_p < 1382385219 587185 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah and |pG x G_p| = |pG| * |G_p|? < 1382385219 732611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think the stabilizer should be first, assuming the pG notation is what i think < 1382385223 872742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1382385245 204727 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :pG = orbital containing p < 1382385268 194359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, just that you multiply with G elements on the right < 1382385293 829345 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it always possible to pick an element in the orbital so that p -> the element < 1382385399 227752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have an element x of pG, then there must be a g in G such that x = pg by definition. < 1382385443 91076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not necessarily unique, but you get all the others by multiplying g with something from the stabilizer. < 1382385455 595969 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right. of course < 1382385456 692865 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382385467 779434 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the orbital is the equivalence class etc < 1382385487 214564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it is? < 1382385504 963293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was just an ordinary subset of G or S. < 1382385559 465763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose some of this needs a little checking, which _should_ be nearly trivial. < 1382385570 470337 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: according to this book, it is the equivalence class defined by some relation x ~ y <=> x = yg for some g \in G < 1382385594 301383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well right. < 1382385639 786610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, the fact that it is an equivalence class is part of what is needed for this to work. < 1382385702 861008 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, are all of these notions (stabilizer, centralizer and what not) really important in applications like cryptography < 1382385712 710045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1382385717 647245 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in for example the sector that you work in, not sure what that is < 1382385726 668726 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it seems to be related < 1382385753 887337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not working any longer, but when i did, orbit(al)s were a big deal. < 1382385848 606806 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the other things like stabilizers? < 1382385991 413610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :our dynamical systems were usually free, which means the stabilizer is trivial. < 1382386005 893600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't recall using the term. < 1382386021 898896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i did have a small result on non-free systems in my PhD. < 1382386093 406336 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the group was usually pretty simple too, Z or Z^2. < 1382386116 188273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i had a small result with a weirder group. < 1382386158 907598 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those groups dont sound very simple to me :-) < 1382386173 87241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: um i mean not complicated < 1382386194 176317 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes thats my bad joke face < 1382386199 28739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1382386209 110360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1382386250 409519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like, when i started my PhD the theory for just Z was just proved by my advisor and colleagues, so i looked at various little generalizations. < 1382386270 407540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also of other aspects.) < 1382386344 947450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we didn't really use much group theory of the kind AnotherTest is alluding to. although their main theorem used group homology at a crucial step. < 1382386405 81985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i vaguely recall it was sort of serendipity that led them to find out the step they needed _was_ a result in group homology. < 1382386415 413318 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the group theroy I'm asking about all the time might not be so useful in the end, I wouldn't know, I'm just a kid trying to figure this out < 1382386427 972113 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :for no real practical reason < 1382386433 320846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i'm sure it's useful for all kinds of things. < 1382386448 383746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not necessarily all at the same time :) < 1382386628 308438 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know any good books on formal verification/model checking/static analysis? < 1382386642 162777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know group theory is extremely important in quantum physics, at least. < 1382386842 423970 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, thanks. I'm going to try to complete that proof < 1382386842 569207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent a month in ireland once trying to cooperate with this guy who was researching quantum groups (which are _not_ groups but more a kind of "quantization" of them.) < 1382386877 385264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up two D&D feats for use with spellcasters (wizard, sorcerer) having a familiar. < 1382386935 516406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Familiar Enhanced Spell [Metamagic] (Requires: familiar) Increases slot level by 2. Familiar must be conscious and within range (5ft/caster level) during entire casting time, otherwise spell fails. Your control/concentration (including dismissal) of this spell is severed if familiar is unconscious or out of range, but is reinstated if consious/range. < 1382387031 125557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may select one of the effects as you cast this spell: [1] Familiar is targeted as if it is an object or different creature type. [2] Familiar is immune to effects of this spell. [3] Designate familiar as toucher even though not in contact with the caster. [4] Target familiar even if not in normal range of the spell (even personal can be changed to other than touch). < 1382387085 721579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[5] Range is measured starting from familiar. [6] Save DC increase by 2 if familiar in 5ft of target. [7] Familiar's attack(s) against target(s) of spell have +4 attack +2 damage if used within 1 round of casting. [8] Caster has +3 Concentration with this spell while familiar in 5ft of caster. [9] Duration increased by 1d2 rounds for familiar if targeted. < 1382387087 879276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is all. < 1382387089 371065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382387126 750729 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-197.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1382387134 393752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should the slot level be different perhaps? < 1382387324 18751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other feat is: Wise Familiar [General, wizard can select as bonus feat] (Requires: familiar, caster level at least 2, spend 1 XP to select this feat) Int and Wis of familiar +2, but not exceed your own. If this results in their Int at least 10, they can 1/day as a spell-like ability, cast a 0-level spell you have available to cast, without expending the slot, at caster level 1. Cannot be used with spells having XP cost, expensive M/F component, < 1382387403 793517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... there needs to be a Summon Fungot spell. < 1382387417 727120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: What will be that spell level, duration, etc? < 1382387457 860805 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure that's epic-level < 1382387470 114956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was thinking along the lines of summon imp... < 1382387490 367504 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, I don't know about fungot's physical form. < 1382387490 637483 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: mathematica has a fox! wonderful! :) gay fnord fnord) < 1382387510 948361 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a small woodland creature, it seems. < 1382387511 958074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think these two foots^Wfeats may be good, or a possible adjustment to make? < 1382387525 629534 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :foots? < 1382387534 909624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not expect fungot to have a physical form. < 1382387535 169499 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how did you do make a scheme based wiki, then you can't test for equality with floating point < 1382387568 196343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one expects the fungot with a physical form < 1382387568 448628 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you're open minded, go for it offby1! you don't specify what multiplication is. < 1382387572 853290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Why does a wiki software need floating point? ... < 1382387584 931753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: random page. < 1382387587 658500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for unit conversions? < 1382387596 845505 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does selecting a random page require floating point? < 1382387604 64329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fungot cannot be stopped by that summoning alone! < 1382387604 338953 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and french is _not_ my favorite language. you're just saying that there's something wrong < 1382387632 263637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eille! c'est quoi que t'as contre le français, espèce de bot dégénéré? < 1382387632 454512 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: then if you use ' is', then < 1382387654 129651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: OK, maybe for unit conversions, but would you need to test for equality in that case? < 1382387672 658827 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bin, c'est comme évident que j'utilise «être». c'est comme que genre le verbe le plus important? < 1382387672 903095 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but does it really teach programming?... < 1382387686 38076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ouais, vaguement. mettons que c'est pas vargeux par moments. < 1382387686 401194 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so i made my point. where the action gets fnord. the two theses licenses are too weird, tusho < 1382387694 45045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe not. < 1382387707 295939 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: c'est pas parce que t'as raison que t'es obligé d'être méchant envers les francophones. non mais. tsé. < 1382387740 284664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you thinking of these feats? Should a slight adjustment be made? < 1382387763 460211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem pretty good, imo. and besides, nothing like playtesting them. < 1382387824 338959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although I would have to select them to playtesting them and do not intend to do so right away and if is no good should be adjusted. There are too many possible situations to test so you have to make a thought-experiment at least would be one thing. < 1382387864 360474 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if it is a bit too powerful possibly then it might be better to increase the slot level by more than 2 or to add further restrictions, or something like that < 1382387865 843321 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :geD&Dkenexperiment. < 1382387935 208301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example by comparing it to existing things and thinking of what would make them too powerful < 1382387943 377884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: 鴨鴨行 < 1382387949 854451 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382388053 6493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should also say, familiar is not allowed to do other things (such as attacking) during casting time. < 1382388173 552683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen elliott < 1382388176 169697 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-10-19 22:25:10: haha, you can pay through bitcoin < 1382388225 497341 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1382389193 149097 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382389348 585726 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382389956 951222 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382390002 191008 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-211.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382390213 727028 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382390295 194700 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382390295 449597 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382390295 594848 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382390343 812626 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382390542 823802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily It's this mythical machine that makes endless amounts of grain, salt and money. Haven't you read the Donald Duck story? < 1382390543 6363 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382390543 656042 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1382390578 839044 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382390606 220626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait what < 1382390634 727470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: He asked about the sampo. < 1382390639 216909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1382390678 789757 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382390679 528015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the story is "The Quest for Kalevala", by Don Rosa.) < 1382390701 174738 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1382390702 70989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has some nice scenes with recognizable locations in Helsinki. < 1382390749 681479 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-211.psoas.suomi.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1382390933 760499 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382391045 716769 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382391059 860643 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1382391198 412876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The publication of this story created a national sensation in Finland where Donald Duck and the Kalevala are important aspects of culture." < 1382391201 289498 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1382391223 998946 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382391321 341500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think don rosa appeared at approximately the time when i stopped reading donald duck... < 1382391417 312717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I was ordering the magazine when most of his stories came out, but I've got several of the separate books. < 1382391529 963490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1382391537 824559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donald Duck is an important aspect of culture in Finland? < 1382391549 384012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's a reasonably fair statement. < 1382391570 888626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_duck#Nordic_Countries < 1382391663 909193 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382391674 795032 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, it's "Donald Duck" in norwegian? < 1382391682 240728 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1382391688 99216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1382391694 967437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's kind of lazy. < 1382391702 186873 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Finnish voters placing "protest votes" typically write "Donald Duck" as the candidate' < 1382391705 204291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1382391730 200970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought norwegians were highly anti-english about anything that could have norwegian words < 1382391733 946481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. most other character names are translated, though. < 1382391745 156780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you don't do that? < 1382391756 606457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of Donald Duck votes is mentioned sometimes after elections. < 1382391759 864797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well in _theory_... < 1382391786 106969 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1382391802 62081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a student government constitutional crisis after someone wrote in "God" and someone else wrote in "Fake Shawn's Bike". also this was on a ballot where "No" is already an official option < 1382391825 505147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't release official statistics of disqualified votes, I think, but there are some smaller-scale extrapolations. < 1382391851 688842 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, were those... the only votes? < 1382391860 659748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1382391879 292464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the crisis was over whether voting for someone who isn't a student / doesn't exist / is a bicycle would invalidate your whole ballot or whether those entries would simply be removed from the preference ordering < 1382391884 193916 :atslash!~cherep@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382391903 110990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Bike is a student < 1382391912 375840 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the reason people didn't just go for the latter was...? < 1382391912 999232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.iltalehti.fi/presidentinvaalit/liput22401HL_pd.jpg that's one vote-counter's personal count of discarded votes. < 1382391916 563682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that's why kmc had to specify "is a bicycle" separately. < 1382391922 768646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well you have to interpret what the constitution says!!!! < 1382391924 219091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donald Duck ("Aku Ankka") is third from the top. < 1382391927 500909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just decide arbitrarily < 1382391935 357542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make a mockery of the whole concept of student government! < 1382391939 780331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :daisy duck is translated as "dolly", which is different from the original yet clearly english. < 1382391943 174963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Presidential election of 2012.) < 1382391973 261730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/11/23/so_why_would_someone_for_the_lizard_people "A man who claims to be the voter behind the infamous Lizard People ballot in the U.S. Senate race recount has come forward." < 1382391996 118094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the right column is listing how many votes had some additional graphics (hearts, smileys or so) in addition to the number of an actual candidate, which is also grounds for disqualifying the vote. < 1382392020 392957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.publicradio.org/content/2008/11/19/20081119_lizardpeople_33.jpg < 1382392043 308119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha < 1382392061 221757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously they voted lizard people because they don't like any of the other candidates. Same reason someone vote Mickey Mouse, I suppose. < 1382392064 302569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's "haavsto" and "ninistö" < 1382392082 219979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or whatever words those are) < 1382392082 662585 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "Haavisto" and "Niinistö", names of the two actual candidates. < 1382392086 492094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1382392090 30644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as anything else you would vote for, if you don't like any of the other candidates, you will vote for the remaining one, whether or not it is one of the choices. < 1382392108 718629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is from the second round when only two candidates are left. < 1382392112 748134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly if you're running for office it's advantageous to have a name with no dots in it (harder in finnish!) < 1382392136 742191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iltalehti.fi/presidentinvaalit/2012012415112887_pd.shtml has a couple of samples of actual discarded votes, too. < 1382392147 534785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 for president < 1382392148 342229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's one number 2 with a heart, for example.) < 1382392148 866794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No dots in it? < 1382392160 8369 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that why "Hussein" gets dropped < 1382392163 463377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : that would make a mockery of the whole concept of student government! <-- now i'm thinking of that quote from terry pratchett's The Last Continent. < 1382392169 373143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: easier in turkish?? < 1382392181 718440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am not one of the candidates either, sorry. < 1382392221 144235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "EI HOMOILLE" text in one (voting for #6) means approximately "NO GAYS"; the other candidate (#2) was a gay man. < 1382392221 290241 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i just nominated you "checkmate" < 1382392254 779229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see there's also one "bullshit we can believe in" Obama sticker. < 1382392279 908345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so you vote by writing a name or a number in the "N:o" circle? < 1382392286 210097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A number. < 1382392307 642979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there's an election next month, maybe I should register to vote < 1382392319 224980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a list inside the voting cubicle if you've happened to forget the number. < 1382392321 522080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh today is the last day for doing so < 1382392322 406370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1382392362 205650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't have any voter registration here -- they just mail the papers to everyone eligible. < 1382392395 454253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you americans and your silly vote registration and having to fill in your own tax forms < 1382392400 203815 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382392408 935499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like I can vote for.... city attorney, treasurer, and assessor-recorder, all of whom are incumbants running unopposed < 1382392411 68189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that the turnout is terribly great. There's a noticeable correlation with the turnout and how nice the weather is. < 1382392416 987672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some Propositions < 1382392421 963071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and checks, mustn't forget checks. < 1382392425 808980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two (related) of which are actually controversial < 1382392433 732087 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382392454 485101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding whether or not to build http://8washington.com/ < 1382392457 82250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's the other thing, you've got so many of them elections. < 1382392465 905078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we average even one per year. < 1382392468 97610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, SF zoning laws are so fucked that the only way to build anything is to get direct approval from voters) < 1382392518 787959 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you count the three parts of each normal election, sweden might even reach 3/4 elections per year < 1382392524 85160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet the people who want no new development also want rents to be much lower < 1382392530 600606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as though the supply of housing has nothing to do with the price < 1382392546 369621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the presidential one with a 6-year interval, the EU parliament one with a 5-year one, the Finnish parliamentary elections every four years, and the muncipal thing every fourth year also. < 1382392554 186201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that averages out to little less than one. < 1382392563 38191 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, EU something, I guess we have those too probably < 1382392569 723635 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :America, bastion of democracy < 1382392608 161580 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the presidential election often (almost always?) has two rounds. < 1382392610 137078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2/6 + 1/5 + 1/4 + 1/4 < 1382392611 196543 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.0333333333333332 < 1382392616 553925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's a bit more than one, then. < 1382392656 178769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we usually just have the parliamentary and municipal/county ones, unless you count church elections and the saami parliament which are only for some people. < 1382392670 736102 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382392679 761235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think there's a church thing too. < 1382392683 985328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's only for members, I think. < 1382392705 449122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could vote in the church ones if i cared, but i'm not saami. < 1382392721 178221 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382392729 184615 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And also the Åland Islands hold their own votes for their governing body. < 1382392781 806187 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/5 + 3/4 < 1382392782 391815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :referendums are rare in norway, usually just every time we decide not to join the EU. although the capital had one this year for whether they should try to get the winter olympics. < 1382392782 854647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.95 < 1382392823 852975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION keeps forgetting that norway isn't in the EU
< 1382392830 939221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: We've had a total of two so far. (1931, to abolish prohibition, and 1994 to join the EU.) < 1382392849 718332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :California has a tradition of absurd ballot measures < 1382392859 626167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess if we hadn't joined, we'd also keep on doing it. Though they're all very non-binding to the parliament, so it's mostly just a formal opinion poll. < 1382392879 845906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Proposition 65 < 1382392886 122586 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382392898 37303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires basically every object and location in the state to be labeled as containing hazardous chemicals < 1382392903 888020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite cumbersome < 1382392912 628788 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my apartment complex has signs warnin it may cause cancer < 1382392915 521989 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*warning < 1382392918 676791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1382392943 902023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if norway maybe had some prohibition-related referendum once. we did have prohibition. < 1382392947 664233 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Living in California may cause cancer, I hear. < 1382392949 23226 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that the "known by the state of california to cause cancer" stuff? < 1382392952 97669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes < 1382392979 684331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they're not binding in norway either. < 1382392997 133249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an odd sentence ... how does it know? can a state even have knowledge? < 1382393019 477765 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a window have knowledge? < 1382393036 110023 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if the window is full of tardigrades < 1382393042 321241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh; 70.6% of the votes over the whole country in 1931 were for abolishing prohibition; but in Åland the corresponding number was 98%. < 1382393049 746555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they don't have very much to do out there. < 1382393080 708803 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if that's a pun i must be missing it :'( < 1382393114 789541 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i mean literal tardigrades. < 1382393117 439902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long did prohibition last in finland < 1382393119 536905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok norway has had 6: one to separate from sweden, one to stay a monarchy, one to introduce prohibition, one to repeal prohibition, and two to stay out of the EEC/EU. < 1382393124 283601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you have a government monopoly on all things booze-related too? < 1382393126 420974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6 nationwide, that is.) < 1382393132 84840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. < 1382393139 329247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 1919-1931. < 1382393164 72321 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well i meant a literal ledge < 1382393186 175043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that matches quite closely the US. < 1382393223 618222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, literal tardigrades in a literal window < 1382393225 52156 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1907 to 1992 in Faroe Islands; limited private imports from Denmark were allowed from 1928" well it's nice to see some people sticking to their principles. < 1382393297 550252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/The_Drunkard%27s_Progress_-_Color.jpg that's how it goes. < 1382393300 208413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway was 1919-1925 so we got out a bit earlier. < 1382393305 828739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1382393308 29350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1926 < 1382393331 16928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in norway it was just hard liquor. < 1382393348 758882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: otoh my friends live next to the Middlefield-Ellis-Whisman EPA Superfund site and there aren't any signs up about that < 1382393362 982977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trichloroethane in the groundwater < 1382393377 129002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to Fairchild, Intel, and Raytheon < 1382393384 13219 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if you pay someone they can forget a few things that were previously known to cause cancer < 1382393384 277214 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm remembering that there's a literal plague outbreak in madagascar right now < 1382393386 851077 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an EPA EPA Superfund site < 1382393393 213426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: probably, let me look < 1382393405 380899 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1382393441 726442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The 1931 referendum had three options; abolish entirely, allow only mild drinks, or keep as-is. 70.6% for first and 28.0% for last, but only 1.4% for the middle road. I suppose we didn't want to do something a bunch of Norwegians already tried out. < 1382393454 415544 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«A team of researchers in India has retracted their 2012 paper in PLoS One on botulinum toxin for plagiarism — while blaming the journal for failing to use its “soft wares” to catch the plagiarism.» < 1382393475 4809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure actually shachaf < 1382393523 205920 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would an EPA EPA Superfund site be a place where the EPA destroyed the environment? < 1382393532 877243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be in East Palo Alto < 1382393537 551008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1382393551 786301 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhh. < 1382393582 642359 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.epa.gov/region9/superfund/cooley/index.html < 1382393605 240596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally got around to the last continent quote: "It lies on the Lassitude River, where an annual Regatta is held that attracts a lot of attention. Usually consisting of a race of wheeled boats pulled by camels on the sand, it was cancelled during the events of The Last Continent. It was felt that a river full of water made a mockery of the whole event." < 1382393623 717212 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1382393624 508872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's not a quote < 1382393637 132504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Somehow that reminded me of the Sacrifice Zones from Snow Crash. < 1382393637 384770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a wiki description. gets the gist though. < 1382393666 958691 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382393697 939100 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i hear lakka liqueur is popular in .fi < 1382393700 748479 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well that's basically what a superfund site is, except that nominally it will be cleaned up in the future, except the EPA doesn't actually have the budget. < 1382393705 903855 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382393725 229434 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I... guess. I'd wager a guess it's not as popular as, say, Koskenkorva. < 1382393735 906003 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: https://twitter.com/mc_hankins/status/392390498943381506/photo/1 "I know stats!" < 1382393755 476830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well actually i've never had the liqueur but i like the berries < 1382393766 486999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by popular i just mean i like them < 1382393801 991228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm sure it's popular-er here than in many other places, though. It's the kind of thing you'd take for dessert. (Perhaps even in the dessert.) < 1382393809 472452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, the lake where I went sailing weekend before last used to be "544 acres of junkyard, hog farm, two substandard dumps, low lying flood plains, and a sewage treatment plant" < 1382393888 241601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.shorelinelake.com/about/history.htm they imported 2400 tons of fill per day for 13 years < 1382393901 695417 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i actually live about an hour's drive from the most radioactive site in the united states, which is kind of weird. < 1382393942 950971 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which one's that? < 1382393955 775464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place I did my civil service year in, they distributed a paper to all homes officially disrecommending eating anything picked up nearby, there was an old lead processing plant nearby which was kind of an environmental disaster. < 1382393961 795559 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :site w, it's where they made the plutonium for the manhattan project. < 1382393966 886775 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SL-1? ohhh < 1382393973 732678 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you might imagine they didn't know how to make a reactor that wasn't messy as hell. < 1382393977 800619 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you're probably still a bit far from idaho < 1382393995 135318 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. that is messy < 1382393997 764382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2400*365*13 < 1382393998 929186 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11388000 < 1382394000 693780 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"53 million gallons of waste" < 1382394008 488599 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"25 million cubic feet of solid waste" @_@ < 1382394009 443786 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1382394011 393438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't know how, or didn't care because they were in a hurry and there was a war on < 1382394012 623279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many squash courts is that? < 1382394029 720467 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i've seen pictures where there are just whole barrels of radioactive waste from the 40s sitting underwater without tops < 1382394036 637618 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: true < 1382394038 508993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or didn't know what the long term effects of radiation are < 1382394080 531738 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't think of SL-1. i'm right near the idaho border, but the lab is on the other side of the state, it seems < 1382394088 204686 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1382394119 432719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Sweden voters often voted for Donald Duck or the Donald Duck Party as a nonexistent candidate until a 2006 change in voting laws, which prohibited voting for nonexistent candidates." <-- my mind boggles at the idea that swedes are so law-abiding that the law made them _stop_ doing this. (i assume the votes would be discarded in any case, both before and after.) < 1382394141 449317 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair hanford is in one of the emptier parts of the country < 1382394163 31526 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hanford_High_School.jpg but then, < 1382394164 738347 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, did that actually change the frequency of donald duck votes? I haven't heard about that law < 1382394184 429605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was someone wandering around the place I work at, looking for a nuclear reactor. < 1382394211 976886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The Otaniemi research reactor, which is about to be completely deactivated, is somewhere there.) < 1382394222 902524 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spent_nuclear_fuel_hanford.jpg ah yeah, there's the photo < 1382394230 598034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Marshall later conceded that, "I had never never heard of atomic fission but I did know that you could not build much of a plant, much less four of them for $90 million. A single TNT plant that Nichols had recently built in Pennsylvania had cost $128 million. < 1382394239 759716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor were they impressed with estimates to the nearest order of magnitude, which Groves compared with telling a caterer to prepare for between ten and a thousand guests.' < 1382394268 687387 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineers strike again < 1382394273 876845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like physicists < 1382394284 60846 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't get my joeks straight :( < 1382394294 301031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is a small research reactor located in Otaniemi, Espoo; a TRIGA Mark II, built for the Helsinki University of Technology in 1962." "TRIGA Mark II" sounds fancy. < 1382394328 773855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind if thing you'd expect a family to have in the basement in an outdated sci-fi. < 1382394384 127199 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRIGA is the model at my school too :3 < 1382394424 419910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One of Groves' early problems was to find a director for Project Y, the group that would design and build the bomb.... Compton recommended Oppenheimer, who was already intimately familiar with the bomb design concepts. However, Oppenheimer had little administrative experience, and, unlike Urey, Lawrence or Compton, had not won a Nobel Prize, which many scientists felt that the head of such an important laboratory should have." < 1382394430 432274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a tough job requirement < 1382394437 621657 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1382394449 852841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There were also concerns about Oppenheimer's security status, as many of his associates were communists" < 1382394484 622069 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number of communist physicists who worked on the project is a bit sad < 1382394529 139762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :communism was cool back then right < 1382394541 864551 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, sad in that they apparently didn't think about the politics of what they were doing < 1382394570 920247 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :until afterwards when they all joined or started antiwar organizations, i mean < 1382394684 307808 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1 this thing is scary < 1382394766 716656 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"whoopsies our 3 megawatt reactor just output 20 gigawatts" < 1382394797 965439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I go to some slightly related page, I end up doing a Wikipedia binge on nuclear "incidents" (nice word). < 1382394812 443053 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too, it's kind of like with plane crashes >_< < 1382394827 879944 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like how someone links to something about stellar remnants and I spend a day reading about supernovae < 1382394883 682553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending up in the Therac-25 page is also always a bummer. < 1382395056 821273 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Previous models had hardware interlocks in place to prevent this, but Therac-25 had removed them, depending instead on software interlocks for safety. The software interlock could fail due to a race condition." eesh. < 1382395165 212953 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Goiânia is the worst i know of, it's like some kind of fucked up heist film < 1382395281 190119 :augur!~augur@pool-96-241-145-146.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382395289 988964 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He inserted the screwdriver and successfully scooped out some of the glowing substance. Thinking it was perhaps a type of gunpowder, he tried to light it, but the powder would not ignite" for example < 1382395357 476435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the "demon core". < 1382395394 87331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While attempting to stack another brick around the assembly, Daghlian accidentally dropped it onto the core and thereby caused the core to go critical, a self-sustaining chain reaction." < 1382395403 761631 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :accidents involving people actually working with it seem less grave though < 1382395404 500661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That must've been also quite a sinking feeling. < 1382395408 730885 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and the Slotin incident < 1382395414 614477 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1382395581 331285 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the experiment slotin was doing is ridiculously terrifying, holding the reflector above the core with a *screwdriver* < 1382395612 71963 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a bit like a stupidly constructed experiment < 1382395632 522457 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Slotin, who was given to bravado, became the local expert, performing the test almost a dozen separate times, often in his trademark bluejeans and cowboy boots, in front of a roomful of observers. Enrico Fermi reportedly told Slotin and others they would be "dead within a year" if they continued performing it." < 1382395686 17758 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he die < 1382395746 178965 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1382395755 817961 :nooodl_!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382395756 459238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within a year, I think. < 1382395763 605680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done < 1382395783 668478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Fermi did have one of them Nobels. < 1382395844 733069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobel Prize for Not Dying < 1382395845 594334 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of my favorite accidents is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire < 1382395853 887524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, he died nine days after the accident; it's not listed very clearly in the source how long before that the Fermi warning was, but I doubt it was more than a year.) < 1382395886 391265 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tickling_the_Dragons_Tail.jpg < 1382395889 784057 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just, wow < 1382395920 868146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BuzzFeed: 12 Most EPIC FAIL Nuclear Accidents < 1382395930 54774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :animated cat gif for each < 1382395965 615307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Finland really has had (knocking on wood) any proper nuclear accidents. < 1382395979 834389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: shudder < 1382395991 165011 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like, even knowing that's a simulation, it's terrifying to just look at that < 1382395998 803473 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I love the fact that Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download exists < 1382396035 273744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :criticality excursions are always fun < 1382396048 159107 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"excursion" makes it sound like some sort of trip < 1382396056 840690 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"where are we going today, ms. frizzle?" < 1382396062 910037 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're going on a criticality excursion!" < 1382396090 773961 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"awwwwww, I knew I should have stayed home today!" < 1382396093 977292 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad it's not just me < 1382396099 567241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bahahaha < 1382396110 491741 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did you have RTGs in the arctic or anything < 1382396122 330981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Fast Nora's Criticality Excursion 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1382396137 671410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh yeah the Soviet Union left a bunch of RTGs lying around the far arctic unattended < 1382396142 620761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes people steal them < 1382396143 963466 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's what i was thinking < 1382396146 174469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try to cuddle with them for warmth < 1382396146 507750 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :get yo lighthouse on < 1382396149 50145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all should learn about wavelet trees too < 1382396153 80878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time they dropped one into a lake by accident < 1382396153 226201 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://slbkbs.org/wavelet.txt < 1382396164 434726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they also crashed a nuclear reactor into Canada that one time < 1382396166 210943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems worse < 1382396167 771411 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I'm too sad that Google Wave didn't catch on < 1382396182 294294 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wavelet trees are unrelated to Google Wave < 1382396188 379293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mostly unrelated to wavelets < 1382396234 175181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: "Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8" pls < 1382396237 797277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're related to wavelets?? they're a bit like a progressive encoding of a string in an arbitrary alphabet < 1382396242 53114 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I love how like. the US pu-238 (I think?) RTG fuel units are totally non-radioactive < 1382396247 491763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :'( < 1382396253 385349 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could actually cuddle them (minus the whole, like, 500 celcius thing) < 1382396266 90562 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray cuddles < 1382396277 350467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they're alpha sources, aren't they < 1382396283 108341 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that RTG as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator ? < 1382396295 679169 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about next term taking an introduction to Dutch module < 1382396303 291937 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not that I know of. < 1382396318 794055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyway an RTG is designed to absorb as much of its own radiation as possible, that's the whole point < 1382396322 25441 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: are Dutch modules related to D-modules? < 1382396329 255096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I was trying to Google for any nuclear mishaps in Finland, but only got some decidedly paranoid-looking rambling. < 1382396332 786321 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, what the hell did you think the D stood for < 1382396338 628055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "I have also made notice of that there is triangle shaped thunderstorms which reach Estonian. This isnt natural that they are triangle shaped. And also, always coming above the nuclear plant. So my theory is that nuclear radiation causes electrical phenomenom in atmosphere that raises serious thunder." < 1382396347 274233 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1382396350 598633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fueling_of_the_MSL_MMRTG_001.jpg < 1382396351 347431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangular shaped radiation < 1382396356 761041 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ngevD? < 1382396405 697012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember the Great Reddit Nuclear Accident of 2012 < 1382396415 198849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask someone if they can understand the "sideways reasoning" puzzle I asked to Dungeons&Dragons game. < 1382396449 660516 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, fool, how nïave < 1382396478 946926 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I wish I couldn't remember what I had for breakfast < 1382396513 567283 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the milk had gone off... I don't have very good luck with milk) < 1382396568 807780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did the milk go off to? < 1382396601 619577 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Majorca < 1382396603 775275 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Went to read of the Goiânia thing, hit the "the guard in charge of daytime security -- did not show up to work, using a sick day to attend a cinema screening of Herbie Goes Bananas with his family" bit. < 1382396696 985585 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor guy < 1382396736 157863 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1382396740 194739 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382397103 634616 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I'm suddenly remembering some really awful Haskell code I wrote when I was just learning the language < 1382397104 348147 :NihilistDandy!~ND@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382397208 373371 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to travel back in time and hit myself and shout "Don't bother, this ways kind of really dumb" < 1382397221 33653 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then maybe I needed the learning experience < 1382397252 127250 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382397318 664935 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382397420 752740 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.61 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382397507 929441 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382397616 324838 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1382397930 366355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382399936 137391 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds