< 1382487462 190299 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:7c5a:1f39:cb5e:87fe QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout: 1337 seconds < 1382487555 214728 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :$define! < 1382487587 223149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like the idea of having both and? and $and? < 1382487869 330775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1382487873 507356 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382487969 393221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter short-circuits and the former does not? < 1382487997 2092 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382488003 592282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were the Kernel person here < 1382488025 706627 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, that came out kind of mean, sorry < 1382488095 614130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a strong similarity between eval in Kernel and uplevel in Tcl < 1382488128 7397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uplevel in Tcl lets you eval in the immediately 'above' scope, which I gather eval'ing using the passed-in environment in an operative also does? < 1382488626 545732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's fine < 1382488630 497267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know that much about kernel though < 1382488631 882458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never used it < 1382488634 809818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read some of the papers < 1382488708 769065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't pass around the uplevel 1 in Tcl though, and uplevel is too powerful, it lets you go up more than one scope < 1382488834 767653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think CPython also lets you do that < 1382488845 408119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :updog: what's uplevel < 1382488845 553249 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1382488904 175246 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thus, not specifying the order of argument evaluation is key to the expressiveness < 1382488904 320696 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :of the language. " < 1382488905 427737 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1382489073 709034 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:dc32:3e52:3ebd:e1a JOIN :#esoteric < 1382489188 599562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is confusing < 1382489858 766718 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382489859 482860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :". Moreover, by the same reasoning, this additional information can be shared with the user of the Kernel system, as long as it remains unavailable to the program." < 1382489864 308003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is this, the anti-Smalltalk? < 1382490476 979635 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382490713 47491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned about http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/rtld-audit.7.html today < 1382490714 830991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. fun < 1382490787 572314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you hook almost everything the dynamic linker does, and therefore hook any dynamically linked functions too < 1382490792 786426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can use it for a souped up ltrace (http://people.redhat.com/jolsa/latrace/index.shtml) < 1382490901 901046 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY < 1382490907 263663 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrap $vau) < 1382490932 940605 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... this completely solves the problem I had with Kernel not being Tcl-like enough for my tastes. < 1382490946 93625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1382490958 507873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just... wrapping the operative. Means I can make the operative see what I want it to see < 1382490988 315577 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you also just... use eval < 1382491024 634732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but that seems like it would be ... ugly somehow. < 1382491143 264198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you hide the eval inside the body of a vau < 1382491144 331430 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1382491175 639722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :users of the paperclip gem are encouraged to upgrade to the latest version of cocaine < 1382491901 427969 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1382492109 653708 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382492142 725182 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382492166 309679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is almost possible to simulate the behavior of type applicative using only operatives, < 1382492166 455234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus bypassing wrap and unwrap altogether" < 1382492172 922258 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost is italicised) < 1382492177 32869 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382492194 542075 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember mocking Kernel for the distinction once < 1382492197 744837 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382492215 866557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote about that < 1382492217 697618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my blog post < 1382492256 730238 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should read that post more thoroughly < 1382492269 543052 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But reading Kernel spec currently < 1382493347 379864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If lists is empty, or if all of its elements are not lists of the < 1382493347 525343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same length, an error is signaled." < 1382493369 696836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an argument for allowing "useless" cases... makes things easier on code-writing code < 1382493510 745797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1382493511 886381 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" but then, < 1382493512 76426 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no list arguments are provided, there is no way to choose a result length that will be < 1382493512 221938 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :compatible with all nontrivial cases: the result length would have to be simultaneously < 1382493512 222142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :equal to every nonnegative integer, and to positive infinity as well. " < 1382493551 771793 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382493584 948488 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382493877 948610 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382495304 680646 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:dc32:3e52:3ebd:e1a QUIT :Quit: Ping timeout: 1337 seconds < 1382495846 740038 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Kernel, macro-like things generally have two environments in play, although I guess they can be given more < 1382495877 699648 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With syntax-case used procedurally, there are potentially a lot of environments in play, if the input to syntax-case has been built up from different sources < 1382495887 542254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With syntax-rules, how many environments are in play? Just 2? < 1382495926 618390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Gnat < 1382496151 322326 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1382496165 665426 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Kernel using list the same way it's often used in Tcl? < 1382496601 94585 :ION!ion@heh.fi NICK :ion < 1382497322 297744 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel addresses a problem I had with Picolisp. Not sure if I prefer the way Kernel addresses it, but it does address it < 1382497359 848784 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely: Whether functions that take symbols should evaluate their arguments (thus requiring the symbols to be quoted) or not < 1382497373 25297 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picolisp sometimes has functions for both cases < 1382497382 958128 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kernel is against the idea of encouraging programmers to quote symbols < 1382498248 478947 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382499100 404129 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :make-keyed-dynamic-variable binder thing uses a fresh dynamic environment < 1382499100 818711 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1382499147 816323 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382499228 435818 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382499725 329004 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-3096597550.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1382499768 25667 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382499768 171193 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382499780 376569 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-3096597550.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382499824 713350 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382499885 28034 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1382500001 294583 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uplevel in Tcl lets you eval in the immediately 'above' scope, which I gather eval'ing using the passed-in environment in an operative also does? <-- yeah, in some of my little kernel code i defined stuff in the calling environment to make a defclassy thing < 1382500098 601657 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: and re argument evaluation iirc that's because it lets you do amb sorta crap < 1382500104 820808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also good for optimization occasionally < 1382500141 531679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there actually implementations of Kernel? < 1382500156 284281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least a dozen < 1382500162 998114 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1382500166 115028 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean they're mostly crap, but writing a lisp is damn easy < 1382500187 996140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for anti-smalltalk, yeah, i think the author's attitude there is kind of silly < 1382500197 839450 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bla bla weird language bla pointless bike crap < 1382500317 778183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if I could make a Racket language where the already existing Racket macros become first-class < 1382500348 76618 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, (wrap $vau) as you mentioned is nice, but you have to do (eval (cons (wrap $vau) ...) env) to make a closure in env which is imo kind of idiotic < 1382500463 330394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have yet to give anywhere near sufficient thought to comparing Kernel with Rebol < 1382500541 693585 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds boring. now if you'll excuse me i need to read "Achilles and the tortoise climbing up the hyperarithmetical hierarchy" < 1382500642 994507 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382500992 735900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :achilles and the tortoise rob a liquor store < 1382501163 97798 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some ideas on a ... not quite Kernel-like, but Kernel-inspired Racket language. < 1382501182 978445 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like a CSI episode inspired by the headlines < 1382501224 560864 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than interpreting some Kernel-like language, I can redefine references to macros to output some kind of wrapped reference to the function behind the macro, and redefine function application to check for this < 1382501267 714488 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes < 1382502449 869340 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shadow-file.blogspot.com/2013/10/complete-persistent-compromise-of.html haha jesus < 1382502910 357221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, any responsible disclosure? < 1382502917 537550 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was Netgear ever contacted? < 1382502925 23777 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, not sure what they really could do to fix it < 1382502934 958013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, can't force everyone to update firmware, can you? < 1382502940 645051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"never make such a ridiculous system again" < 1382502955 670875 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-136-70.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382503069 739758 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382503374 353807 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rust's grammar is defined over Unicode codepoints, each conventionally denoted U+XXXX, for 4 or more hexadecimal digits X" i like that they leave open the possibility of using astral plane characters in the language syntax < 1382503394 742935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixQE496Pcn8 < 1382503468 189855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why wouldn't they < 1382504050 15667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1382504166 509402 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh when you say you like it you mean that you like it? < 1382504172 690952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange idiom < 1382504249 413333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yes" < 1382504327 886711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help the quotes are too much for me < 1382504361 795816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :```````````````````````````````` < 1382504363 471910 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ```````````````````````````````: not found < 1382504383 271224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :B| < 1382504521 427309 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382504565 438311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´ < 1382504588 648406 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that 32 by accident or due to repeated doubling < 1382504621 423182 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's due to a mild compulsion to do repetitive actions a power of two times < 1382504675 718972 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you generate it via repeated ^W ^Y ^Y < 1382504749 116734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1382504753 81946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know you can make irssi use lots of memory by doing that enough times < 1382504757 955989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspected as much < 1382504795 387678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :112112311211234112112311211234511211231121123411211231121123456112112311211234112112311211234511211231121123411211231121123456 < 1382504850 910886 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm: 12311211234112112311211234511211231121123411211231121123456112112311211234112112311211234511211231121123411211231121123456 < 1382504878 308966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"oopse" i forgot that 7 > 3 < 1382504880 878968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :01101001100101101001011001101001 < 1382504912 947905 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f '0' = "01"; f '1' = "10" in fix $ (f =<<) . ('0':) < 1382504914 67662 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01011001101001011010011001011001101001100101101001011001101001011010011001... < 1382504973 94196 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHOA, DUDE, you can make Irssi use lots of memory by adding lots of characters to the input bar? No way. < 1382504987 727195 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so the Thue-Morse sequence is the fixed point of the Manchester code? < 1382505011 897369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i too enjoy restating facts i have just learned in a sarcastic fashion < 1382505236 995781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you know that there are heterotrophic plants which parasitize mushrooms < 1382505239 993911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotropa_uniflora < 1382505244 868970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's white, doesn't produce chlorophyll < 1382505273 321454 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i did, they rule < 1382505293 138982 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, not literally, since they're just parasites and don't control the shrooms or anything, but, < 1382505320 382749 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bio class put a lot of emphasis on mycorrhiza. nice to know that whole "hey we found this is kind of essential" has filtered down to me < 1382505428 519312 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382505552 753393 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess arbuscular mycorrhiza isn't as exciting though. < 1382506281 864728 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In vau3, some careful thinking will be < 1382506282 102732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : needed to make sure that operatives can't be returned from an applicative." < 1382506282 787040 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1382506312 46522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1382506322 120556 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/tonyg/js-vau/blob/master/TODO < 1382506394 949778 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: just checking here it's not just me that thinks using applicatives as security is kind of stupid < 1382506399 169611 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1382506431 980569 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more disturbed by the thought of ceasing to treat operatives as first-class when that's the primary interesting thing < 1382506455 970819 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what is meant by using applicatives for capabilities, so can't comment on that aspect. < 1382506468 382128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well is that really supposed to be read as, make sure a compound operative will never return an applicative? < 1382506478 103860 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i mean, if so, i'd just disregard that whole implementation cos they don't know shit < 1382506546 549564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfffft who needs js-vau just compile guile with emscripten and then run qoppa in it < 1382506559 507616 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonyg has some interesting other work < 1382506562 919684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not related to Kernel < 1382506578 511253 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that being outside in the sun is sinful, but i'm just going to disregard that sin cos tan < 1382506588 539237 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's got a point here, < 1382506598 146124 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf's got a good point here < 1382506604 638659 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :, < 1382506606 487099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy has the best point here < 1382506614 406738 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnȯqy < 1382506654 939937 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ṡḣȧċḣȧḟ < 1382506657 681022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ő_ő < 1382506681 591856 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i need a photo of erdős, wide-eyed < 1382506685 106343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ṁṅȯq̇ẏ < 1382506702 873212 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :m̈n̈öq̈ÿ < 1382506719 173326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoa-coated co-cones < 1382506749 610059 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are conic sections co-cones? < 1382506758 1557 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :m̈̇n̈̇ö̇q̈̇ÿ̇ < 1382506771 323146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ < 1382506805 600090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is not serious question correct < 1382506832 371646 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocone is a wird word. i think i prefer "cone from" and "cone to" or whatever they were. < 1382506847 106268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's serious in that i'm kind of wondering what a co-cone would be, not serious in that i don't actually think conic sections would be the answer < 1382506848 518709 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cones are weird "does such a simple thing even deserve a word" < 1382506871 652582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/378480?obs=149510&q=1ZqL1 < 1382506886 491500 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a cocone is just a natural transformation to a constant functor hth < 1382506897 548849 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck does that have to do with cones < 1382506907 744185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cone is just a natural transformation from a constant functor < 1382506917 394408 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to think i only learn math out of sheer spite for category theory < 1382506919 68240 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a cone if you draw a picture and squint at it hard enough < 1382506941 438728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what mnoqy said is the real answer < 1382506945 961862 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to draw the picture in such a way that it looks like a cone < 1382506956 471665 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you draw a dot and then you draw a bunch of arrows from that dot to a bunch of other dots < 1382506965 989588 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all of category theory < 1382506970 851969 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the other dots even have arrows between them! < 1382506973 977487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrows? or spite? < 1382506979 80146 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnnoqy < 1382506987 770268 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: defining things via universal properties is p. neat do you know how that works < 1382506996 182068 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a professor told me that computer science is the study of boxes and arrows so I guess it's not surprising that category theory is useful in CS < 1382507012 270978 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the categorical definition of p. much anything such as a product < 1382507013 742519 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who needs boxes when you have even more arrows < 1382507023 196891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy is insightful today < 1382507062 610202 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :draw a box out of arrows. experience the joy < 1382507066 655036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now define ∞ categories using only arrows < 1382507086 255084 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever those end up being i don't even know :'( < 1382507114 188134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is pointless topology where you make boxes out of arrows < 1382507135 671326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, great, thanks for reminding me i was going to read analysis situs -_- < 1382507155 478427 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intro going on about all the errors and how he thought his connjecture was trivial is pretty nice < 1382507729 783925 :Uguubee111118!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382507811 167537 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it! It's so beautiful! The connection between Kernel, Racket, Tcl, and Rebol < 1382507832 226288 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ok, not really, but I think I get some idea of similarities between Rebol and Kernel) < 1382507854 199696 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rebol keeps looking more like Racket than anything else :/ < 1382507869 849601 :Uguubee111117!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1382507943 752128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNpW8KZOVhw < 1382507952 468925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: they should have sent a poet < 1382507992 315737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what. why. < 1382508046 435159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sent a poet < 1382508048 288205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AUPSfgk18 (can't remember if this is nsfw or not) < 1382508089 558056 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not sure whether i believe that was actually graded < 1382508135 207408 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the typing noises are so great < 1382508148 838712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEgtYOJ_qeM is definitely nsfw < 1382508351 894624 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't help think that I almost like Rebol's model better than Kernel < 1382508404 249757 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although guess I need to think about whether hygiene can even be broken in the right ways in that model < 1382508449 174491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also need to not drop dead of sleep deprivation < 1382508528 394370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed. < 1382508563 349764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382508641 20880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I like about the Internet is that things which could be brilliant postmodern art or could be utter shite are produced and published at a rate much too fast for any authority to judge them < 1382508830 948513 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well cboyardee's later stuff has been well received < 1382509012 470326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1382509046 124304 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes note to talk about cboyardee's "rainbow period"
< 1382509138 512456 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think after this song finishes playing I MUST sleep < 1382509171 65115 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good plan < 1382509184 391060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :500KV Substation arc.. Nice < 1382509545 764985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h6UPMcy8-o cool robot < 1382509741 580691 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382510199 916013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots are categorically cool, AIUI. < 1382510237 211399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you inspected any high-voltage transmission lines lately? < 1382510237 419236 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and i tried those md5s both all caps and all lowercase < 1382510240 783690 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie has never watched asimo try to breakdance < 1382510247 97913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's... not quite the same thing. < 1382510247 382058 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what do 's buy you that fnord and x*y with 0/ 1 then 1/ 1; 1/ 3 < 1382510262 876653 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Automatic Chicken Breast Deboning Robot " finally < 1382510373 567789 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is cool. < 1382510701 471545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes let's teach the robots how to remove bones < 1382510776 993248 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant the power line one, i'm a bit too squeamish for deboning < 1382510784 712672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you learned to remove bones? < 1382510784 966241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mä fnord mennä fnord. fnord a maclisp guy at heart." block expr; i don't think < 1382510795 69411 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm slightly worried. < 1382510805 39501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about reboning (maybe this sounds like i'm hitting on you) < 1382510806 502198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also: more Finnish in it.) < 1382510878 350620 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, surgery's cool. < 1382510890 666682 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might take a field trip to see a da vinci surgery robot at some point < 1382510912 190618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1382510938 333949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such are the advantages at going to a meat-oriented school, i guess < 1382510950 521142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"orientation: meat" < 1382510970 688349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: do they have some of those cows with clear removable ports installed in their stomachs < 1382510987 864047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can reach in and experience the beauty of nature as grass is turned into cow shit < 1382511013 611893 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is... that a thing < 1382511014 423509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't "orientation: meat" the kind of thing you post in your deadjournal? < 1382511021 352502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1382511026 292332 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn i need to get investigating opportunities re: meat < 1382511059 535252 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't even gone to the raptor hospital >_> < 1382511060 488705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, isn't it great the range of meaning that English gets just from naming different kinds of animal shit... eg bullshit horseshit dogshit chickenshit apeshit batshit < 1382511073 731822 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never thought of it that way. very cool < 1382511106 5022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these all have different, useful meanings imo < 1382511174 757841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subtle but important distinction between ape and bat shit < 1382511177 355709 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382511251 851316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one of those is closest to bananas? < 1382511319 555224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apeshit, clearly < 1382511348 370266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, it's the logical choice, but I had this nagging suspicion batshit was closer. < 1382511363 391988 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it makes no sense NYARRR < 1382511432 39113 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1382511437 54076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An army of sneezing wangs stalks my nightmare", as the saying goes. < 1382511484 310101 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382511516 127732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1382511522 257960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isometri.cc/strips/i_have_horrible_allergies/ < 1382511531 854451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wangs are not known to sneeze, in my experience < 1382511540 254407 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think 'sneering' could work though < 1382511667 690738 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is an odd comic < 1382511675 107715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like it < 1382511722 10052 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I've mentioned a couple of times, back when I lived alone (redundant?) I had a dot-matrix-printer copy of http://isometri.cc/data/strips/only_when_youre_ready/21.gif as a wall decoration. It's classy to have some art, dontcha know. < 1382511757 74712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's redundant because all of us are truly alone in life, deep down? < 1382511799 123026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's redundant because that's not the kind of picture you hang up as a member of the civilized society, perhaps. < 1382511814 897605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the print quality was bad.) < 1382511859 608833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to put up some pictures but it sounds like I'll be moving (to another room in the same apartment) in a month or two < 1382511863 143932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm putting it off again < 1382511891 298461 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :moo < 1382511900 416228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Putting off and putting up sound pretty equivalent to moo. I mean, me. < 1382511925 756527 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no is your room broken < 1382511936 735934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no its fine < 1382511939 630914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just small < 1382511952 354543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have the smallest room and the largest number of people in a room < 1382511981 295009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :break down the walls < 1382512391 916540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"NASA reports that it has used a pulsed laser beam to transmit data over the 384,633 kilometers (239,000 miles) between the Moon and the Earth at a transfer rate of 622 megabits per second." They can get 622 megabits to the *moon* but not more than barely a hundred to my home. < 1382512437 996302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough lasers involved in the latter, I suppose. < 1382512469 864590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet you get better latency, tho < 1382512653 210718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The press release doesn't mention it, but that sounds like a safe bet. < 1382512737 237032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're complaining about having a hundred megabit connection to your house? < 1382512760 394669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to america sometime < 1382512799 969554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's only ten in the other direction. < 1382512815 820683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though the laser to the moon was also only 20 megs to the other direction.) < 1382512817 72187 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internet connection at work is p. good < 1382512907 718889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The student apartments here are (gradually) being upgraded to have gigabit Ethernet to the apartments themselves. < 1382512942 501159 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they've done about half. < 1382512974 201632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://netstat.ayy.fi/weathermap/ fancy graph. < 1382513126 237752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the entire village used to be a single Ethernet segment at one point. < 1382513131 161336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was quite a lot of noise. < 1382513322 27543 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders who has wi.fi
< 1382513880 501978 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382514451 723867 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382514905 782508 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382515328 571231 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382515779 629296 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1382515804 955635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: A company called "Wi Ventures". < 1382515899 275108 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382516217 2839 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html < 1382517234 430090 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382517613 760634 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382517660 185747 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382517660 331312 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382517728 49475 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1382518709 586204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382522251 81933 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :merde. j'ai besoin d'une nouveaux laptop. :( < 1382522342 226485 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc974s.cs.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1382522361 257704 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"besoin"? < 1382522374 206758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand the rest of the sentence < 1382522938 870804 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1382523294 922207 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://beza1e1.tuxen.de/articles/accidentally_turing_complete.html < 1382523543 722323 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, fun < 1382523544 617202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: strangely enough, I'd opened that in tabs in my browser, but not read it yet < 1382523562 267905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, as the famous lament quote goes, even a box of rotten apples on a string is Turing-complete < 1382523590 70344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I was intentionally keeping aimake configuration low-powered < 1382523613 915195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet I think that's Turing-complete, if you write a bunch of files for intermediate storage (assuming the filesystem allows files with names of unbounded length) < 1382523764 486103 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how chaos-pp/order-pp relate to the C preprocessor entry on that page. < 1382523819 704762 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I've never figured out how those two work, but the claim to be standards-compliant, yet have apparently general control structures like 8while.) < 1382523838 55149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And 8call_cc.) < 1382523924 26716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: huh, that's the same trick I used in Verity < 1382523925 757188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's some kind of a lambda calculus example. < 1382523935 254029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the internal-use-only identifiers start with digits to make them impossible to enter in a user program < 1382523947 622145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the lexer won't lex their names < 1382523974 989859 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the same thing? I don't think the number is part of the name here. < 1382523999 203001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess maybe they're part of the same C preprocessing token. < 1382524003 51172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the C standards allow you to give semantics to otherwise illegal code < 1382524024 260713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the usual way to implement extensions < 1382524030 833559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not illegal code or an extension, though. < 1382524126 734513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1382524275 140654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But even in the preprocessor, macro names are restricted to identifiers, so the 8's can't at least be part of a macro name. < 1382524278 918740 :Taneb!~Taneb@pc974s.cs.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382524305 715206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should try to look at how it works at some point. It's just that, IIRC, order-pp is written on top of chaos-pp, and the latter seemed quite... confusing. < 1382524353 673610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of token concatenation is involved, I think. < 1382524451 31780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess since everything is ultimately inside some ORDER_PP(...) macro it has a chance of prepending something else before the numbers. < 1382524635 564695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But e.g. after #define ORDER_PP_DEF_8fib_iter ORDER_PP_FN(8fn(8N, 8I, 8J, 8if(8is_0(8N), 8I, 8fib_iter(8dec(8N), 8J, 8add(8I, 8J))))) the expression ORDER_PP(8stringize(8to_lit(8fib(8nat(5,0,0))))) expands into the string "139423224561697880139724382870407283950070256587697307264108962948325571622863290691557658876222521294125" < 1382524644 584790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just verified that with gcc -E. < 1382524675 312333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpp isn't turing-complete unless you run it in a loop, there's an entropy restriction < 1382524684 421542 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can still make decently large loops and the like < 1382524723 431832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wonder, since there seems to be no inherent limitations in order-pp. < 1382524842 213341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there is some kind of an arbitrary limit somewhere deep in chaos-pp. < 1382524857 806294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it manages to look quite a lot like the real thing, anyhow. < 1382524874 934950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think offhand that cpp is primitive recursive, not sure on that though < 1382524884 244149 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a computational class that doesn't get that much love, really < 1382524998 626880 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382525297 330342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could sort of argue that the "Stuff which is somehow limited -- is still considered Turing complete, since all "physical" Turing machines are resource limited", should apply to C preprocessor too. < 1382525366 961711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare e.g. someone's brainfuck interpreter in CPP that has unbounded memory but an execution step limit of 2^33 instructions, with Apache's rewrite rule system that has a similar arbitrary restriction and still has been counted to be TC on that page. < 1382525500 513460 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember originally registering for reddit for the purpose of complaining that that HTML/CSS TCness proof was wrong < 1382525905 925705 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1382526083 642567 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did it rely on anyway? < 1382526098 739358 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recall there being something fishy with it < 1382526726 605284 :Uguubee111118!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382526742 569210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it had limited memory horizontally, probably vertically too < 1382526764 169779 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I got at least some reddit commentors trying to work around that with CSSForms < 1382526766 449302 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1382526819 841513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did that work? < 1382526941 822555 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382527038 675901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I don't think it got very far < 1382528327 501965 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382528387 587480 :Uguubee111118!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382529193 225312 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1382529556 716212 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382529568 653048 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382530097 128293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1382530154 300734 :nooodl!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382530177 928936 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good headache morning. < 1382530222 600857 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: people from trondheim are weird. < 1382530251 902997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: itj færra nålles < 1382530291 198709 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: de quossé? < 1382530302 841261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Älä muuta virka. < 1382530335 26115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually speak trondheim dialect, despite living there for most of 24 years.
< 1382530355 303747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ooh, I low how Google Translate picks all the wrong senses for that.) < 1382530387 882504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hey no fair confusing google translate with your ... oh wait. < 1382530404 923973 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do not change the service??? < 1382530449 349405 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It's approximately "you don't say [sarcastic tone]" or "say no more", it's just managed to choose pretty badly there. < 1382530451 647116 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: «dequossé» → «de quoi c'est» → «what is that» → «what» → «wut». < 1382530546 971735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a notorious trøndersk phrase which is used as a farewell greeting and means approximately "Don't get in trouble." < 1382530558 859232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"muuta" is the second-person imperative of the verb "muuttaa" (alter, change), but it's also the partitive case for the noun "muu" (else, other). < 1382530620 79439 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No relation between "muuttaa" and "mutate"? < 1382530621 259779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Älä laita vauva. < 1382530636 398252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in English, "you don't say" is mostly used as a sarcastic reply when someone says something really obvious < 1382530698 864967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "virka" is indeed a post or a public office or things like that, but also second-person imperative of the verb "virkkaa", which is (in addition to crocheting) an old-fashioned dialectal alternative of "to say, to speak". < 1382530708 639269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That should be "älä laita vauvaa". < 1382530711 541434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you don't say. < 1382530754 37439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fi{end,nn}ish < 1382530757 501757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So I thought. I think the Finnish works for that, at least vaguely, but it can also be used in a "you're certainly right about that" context, depending on tone. < 1382530785 15506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose more for the latter, really. < 1382530803 789517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ai, älä?" or something would be a closer match for "you don't say". < 1382530815 145097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Älä ihmeessä. < 1382530817 447033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1382530918 901628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: gt doesn't even give your senses as alternatives. < 1382530991 777475 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I can see that. Though if you type in "virkkaa", it does list "say", "quoth" and "utter" as alternatives. < 1382531002 608080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "quoth" is kind of close, in that it sounds obsolete. < 1382531002 878565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I fear oerjan is transitioning into that awful curse of believing everything that computers say < 1382531018 416877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Do you believe everything your computer tells you? < 1382531018 562134 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's what i wanted < 1382531023 193299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, then. < 1382531038 996772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's understandable for a piece of software. < 1382531054 576712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, meaning fungot. I'm not implying anything about oerjan here. < 1382531063 826091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think fungot trusting its computer is entirely reasonable < 1382531064 69265 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that depends... there's two ways of doing things. and, tcl and ruby are my strongest. < 1382531078 25129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it's not on google, it doesn't exist! < 1382531079 776061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, two answers that can be interpreted as relevant in a row < 1382531113 874845 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are you, in fact, a piece of software? < 1382531134 243026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're on a roll. (I'm sure you'll reply something insensible to this.) < 1382531134 410125 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: am i allowed to not use it voluntarily. < 1382531138 414711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virkkoi korppi. < 1382531149 447200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well i'm fairly soft... < 1382531165 73927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wonder if that's in the official translation. < 1382531235 680943 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's just "korppi huus" (shortened form of "huusi", second person singular past tense of "huutaa", to shout). < 1382531283 541160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely comfortable with the fact that fungot does tcl and ruby < 1382531283 961649 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: blicero has been rotated. i think tspl is basically just r5rs scheme though. just used sox to convert fnord in emacs. how to deal with < 1382531287 851540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Virkkoi korppi" sounds a bit too sedate for that context, actually.) < 1382531296 947352 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(allegedly) < 1382531314 66604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is your army for world domination going to run on TCL and Ruby? < 1382531314 530456 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you can find a very simple system that allows him to edit the generated output to get rid of methods all together just have the equivalent of " jump to the start and end of thread testing always the same. < 1382531377 779482 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds vaguely relevant as well < 1382531409 773850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also gt doesn't know what "Nevermore" is in finnish. < 1382531443 877635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Ei milloinkaan." < 1382531448 911964 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here I thought you knew Finnish < 1382531464 39756 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you know Finnish? < 1382531464 318628 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's still distracting from the main page and some links are known not to work < 1382531478 819789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turhaan pyydän armahdusta, järkkymättä korppi musta / istuu päässä veistokuvan, hievahda ei paikaltaan. / Unelmissaan vain se mailla hornan liikkuu irvokkailla, / kun sen varjo aaveen lailla illoin kasvaa lattiaan / varjo synkkä, raskas, josta sieluni ei nousemaan / pääse enää milloinkaan." < 1382531514 432140 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some adaptation that has been done there. < 1382531533 443716 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is drinking probably prestigious but most possibly bootleg 大紅包袍
< 1382531544 659938 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/包// < 1382531696 276809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put *that* in GT, and for some weird reason it writes "BUDGE" in all uppercase. < 1382531766 49403 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the prosody for speaking that out loud was quite "out there". < 1382531779 38289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their language models aren't perhaps trained for poetry. < 1382531789 465030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say. < 1382531815 809767 :nooodl!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :älä muuta virka! < 1382531847 918469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muu. < 1382531866 343390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can also read it as "don't say 'muu'", a favourite for witty people everywhere.) < 1382531920 168817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onko lehmä on Buddha-luonto? < 1382532038 16009 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :muu, muu, muu, muu ♪ < 1382532214 514882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "Onko lehmällä Buddha-luonto" hth < 1382532256 412684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: possibly "Buddha-luontoa". It's debatable.) < 1382532357 771521 :FreeFull!~freefull@176.249.115.100 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382532360 378836 :FreeFull!~freefull@176.249.115.100 QUIT :Changing host < 1382532360 524286 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382532714 423232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I want to make an esolang where all strings are equal < 1382532718 956036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure why that would be interesting yet < 1382532781 902569 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it isn't < 1382532803 347009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day < 1382532858 541489 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You could make one where there are no string literals, so you have to write a string-generating function < 1382532860 43612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day < 1382532864 553143 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1122) hmm… I guess the difference between me and most esolangers is that I don't instantly go and put it into a BF derivative and call it a day < 1382532884 154062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: elliott already did that with Underload < 1382533010 942291 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott already did everything conceivable. except Feather. < 1382533018 258864 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem to be what I was thinking of < 1382533049 814623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it basically only had literals for the basic commands, all of which had side effects (those commands themselves) < 1382533052 471509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : > let f '0' = "01"; f '1' = "10" in fix $ (f =<<) . ('0':) < 1382533070 460841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a correct thue-morse. < 1382533095 137747 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://yiap.nfshost.com/esoteric/underload/99.ul Are you sure you are talking about Underload? < 1382533101 400986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it was an Underload derivative < 1382533104 511616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Underload itself < 1382533112 268709 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference was that it had no string literals < 1382533118 319550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had to build them up from the individual commands < 1382533137 775477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : > let f '0' = "01"; f '1' = "10" in fix $ ('0':) . tail . (f =<<) < 1382533142 73170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f '0' = "01"; f '1' = "10" in fix $ ('0':) . tail . (f =<<) < 1382533148 176216 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01101001100101101001011001101001100101100110100101101001100101101001011001... < 1382533155 665139 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of something where you provide a formula and it becomes a string < 1382533233 78273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So something like (\x -> 0x41) would just generate an infinite string of a < 1382533253 708469 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not actual syntax < 1382533255 833713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote sometime this week < 1382533257 673201 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1382533259 598656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1382533265 702795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ais523.*pi < 1382533267 668617 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :214) ais523: Maybe it is better, because I don't think the octopus will live very well in the tree. But the difference is that the Internet is lying and you cannot see such things; you could make modified picture, though, in order to lie more clearly, at least. \ 356) meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getti < 1382533272 297036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 356 < 1382533274 19912 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :356) meanwhile, I've been running a program for over 24 hours (getting close to 48 now) which is calculating digits of pi, in binary so far, it has found four digits I hope it will find the fifth some time this week < 1382533276 471520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the one I was looking for < 1382533289 355802 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if all strings were expressed as polynomials? < 1382533296 102294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that program used that representation for lists < 1382533302 697156 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and used lists as strings of digits < 1382533308 345932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it was so slow, btw < 1382533393 655704 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You could probably calculate pi faster than that using the first computer ever made < 1382533405 805340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not using that algorithm :) < 1382533407 165403 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much faster to calculate even by hand < 1382533412 963164 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, obviously < 1382533521 368319 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still believe the fastest way to get a very accurate pi is to use a large circle and a rope. < 1382533543 177951 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wouldn't that be inaccurate due to the curvature of the earth? < 1382533581 729745 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... probably a very, very large circle then. < 1382533596 422980 :nooodl_!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382533601 763195 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, what if we used the observable universe? < 1382533617 801922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you going to measure the diameter/area of the observable universe? < 1382533633 32579 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a string? < 1382533708 253404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure there are some estimates about the diameter based on $PHYSICS_THING, and then you can just multiply by pi. < 1382533726 964068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For diameter and circumference.) < 1382533734 232417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is for measuring pi < 1382533736 316533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think you generally measure area with a rope, anyway.) < 1382533741 597889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't use any formulas that depend on the value of pi < 1382533761 123654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you just do it recursively. < 1382533825 411323 :nooodl!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382533941 546009 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmail that's the most (deliberate hyperbole) random "History" section in a Wikipedia article. < 1382533968 386868 :nooodl_!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382534080 669220 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“This article appears to be written like an advertisement.” but at least, it's an ecologically friendly advertisement. < 1382534143 779879 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm pretty sure using the observable universe only would get you about 20 digits or so < 1382534160 4904 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's assuming it is flat in the first place < 1382534189 465330 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Universe is flat, I say! < 1382534293 131484 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure about that? < 1382534404 569248 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is an assumption I'm perfectly happy to live by. I just can't picture curvature in my head. < 1382534422 529603 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382534440 502657 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I can imagine a rubber sheet (2D) being distorted in space (3D), but I can't imagine space (3D) curvatured (4D). < 1382534531 319211 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you imagine anything 4d? < 1382534570 154531 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. not at all. even the 3D projections disagree with my eyeballs, which in turn send confusing eldritch images to my brain. < 1382534683 532815 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://www.geometrygames.org/CurvedSpaces/ < 1382534710 709600 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :adanaxis helped, for me < 1382534719 951996 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets you look at hyperbolic and elliptic spaces ( and others too ) < 1382534726 440788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a 4-dimensional first person shooter (in space, so no gravity to worry about) < 1382534739 547280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most obvious thing is that four dimensions gives a /lot/ of room to dodge < 1382534786 610831 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm already feeling nauseated (re “good headache morning”), so I think I will pass today. < 1382534817 476834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I've wanted to set an RPG in a hyperbolic space < 1382534822 292881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to confuse people who tried to draw a map < 1382534968 898999 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I find both hyperbolic and elliptic space cool < 1382534976 32916 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although elliptic is more understandable < 1382535037 847723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest though, when you look at hyperbolic space in 3D you don't really realise it is hyperbolic < 1382535047 650579 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it does somehow feel bigger < 1382535180 566711 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D elliptic spaces feel weird < 1382535282 596238 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get quite weird effects < 1382535350 229872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :# spouseName < 1382535350 991710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :# single valued (/me smirks) < 1382535352 751298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- Evolution's LDAP schema for an address book entry. < 1382535359 552673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So unfair for poly people. < 1382535663 763862 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :4d is easy to visualize < 1382535674 627962 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 4 numbers < 1382535724 702884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382535728 561706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/pL8aVPF.png < 1382535771 157350 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ieeeeeurgh! < 1382535785 886298 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry boily < 1382535849 79507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god it's horrible < 1382535866 34251 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is mantra-ising... “stay focused, stay focused, tea goes down, not up, stay focused...”
< 1382535877 201143 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh is that like a 3-sphere renderer < 1382535907 541581 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, i want this thing < 1382535909 475209 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wasn't 3-sphere but Binary Dihedral 12 L < 1382535918 194757 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://www.geometrygames.org/CurvedSpaces/ < 1382535945 18938 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what binary dihedral 12 L is < 1382535950 399578 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that for some reason it won't work on Linux with AMD's propertiary drivers, but will work with open source ones < 1382536006 100710 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dihedral means a polyhedron with two sides < 1382536011 371544 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what the 12 L is < 1382536067 318021 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :One weird thing about elliptic spaces is that as you come closer to something, it first appears to be moving away from you, and then towards you < 1382536069 891372 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case it means the symmetry group of said polygon < 1382536117 203905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no it isn't < 1382536125 180107 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Dicyclic-commutative-diagram.svg helpful diagram < 1382536160 713420 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just checked and it doesn't actually seem to be a dihedron < 1382536195 453235 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be a prism-like thing with 12 faces around the edges < 1382536331 199536 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you make the struts thin it looks like a torus < 1382536400 189297 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :The inside and outside switch as you cross the boundary < 1382536623 948157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1382536731 956984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the texture of the earth this uses is way too cloudy < 1382537077 677171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Description: SSH-Contact is a client/service tool that makes easy to connect your telepathy IM contacts via SSH. No need to care about dynamic IP, NAT, port forwarding or firewalls anymore; if you can chat with a friend, you can also SSH him." < 1382537083 394355 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds kind of weird. < 1382537096 453093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also perhaps dirty.) < 1382537100 999968 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use the galaxy or gyroscope < 1382537253 901295 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what is telepathy < 1382537270 893605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Gnome IM thing. < 1382537282 621824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get confused about which part is Empathy and which part is Telepathy and so on. < 1382537311 379182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *think* Telepathy is the backend, and Empathy the UI. < 1382537318 605683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooookay < 1382537323 316143 :diva!~fuhQ@uncommon.pw NICK :avid < 1382537327 78363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does bitlbee support telepathy? < 1382537334 245031 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :empathy is the part about feelings and telepathy the parts about thoughts < 1382537335 548851 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1382537355 980662 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome is the part about gardens. twnh. < 1382537446 339824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh? < 1382537456 242481 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? twnh < 1382537458 5712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :twnh? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1382537464 710710 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. a glaring hole! < 1382537478 576872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I think there's some module or another for bitlbee to use at least the IM protocol parts of Telepathy. < 1382537488 99568 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn twnh is dubious hambiguitous help that will or will not be help. < 1382537493 278355 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1382537500 174944 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Telepathy also does some audio/video call things like SIP.) < 1382537510 229742 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIP is evil. very, very evil. < 1382537543 273869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what you could get from Telepathy that bitlbee wouldn't already do via other means. < 1382537601 613248 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382537624 685523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except perhaps a single place to configure IM accounts, but that sounds only relevant if you were actually using the Gnome/Empathy stuff. < 1382537631 851123 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382537653 22166 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1382537690 366465 :Uguubee111118!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111118 < 1382537829 527335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd perhaps like to get Skype into Bitlbee, but last I looked, it required running a headless copy of the actual client, and that sounded too silly. < 1382537832 958186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't suppose the MSN XMPP things they were making extend to IM'ing Skype users now that the accounts have been merged?) < 1382538029 728658 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, i think the binary dihedral n L is a 2n sided prism? < 1382538049 634757 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the upper and lower faces glued, although i'm not sure in what orientation < 1382538069 990046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just straight, i guess < 1382538080 689975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and opposite faces glued at a 90� angle < 1382538096 493608 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538210 587410 :Uguubee111118!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538373 809333 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538460 523724 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538496 398721 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538726 161591 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Could always figure out the file format to know for sure < 1382538727 470226 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382538809 883582 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "the quotient of the 3-sphere by the binary dihedral group D_12" < 1382538932 67010 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a geometricist so that doesn't tell me much < 1382539001 669821 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really know what it means to take the quotient of a topological space with a group < 1382539094 722492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just ripped the Unreal CD to an iso < 1382539099 383964 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382539101 641972 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see how well it'll work < 1382539208 402935 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Wine supports DirectX 5 pretty well < 1382539215 119076 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382539247 167019 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: platinum and/or gold. < 1382539607 130783 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1382539614 59120 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to work well < 1382539809 937573 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382541482 148475 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1382541502 108171 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1382541711 152288 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382542864 643579 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382542886 718644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382542942 870391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382543563 680167 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1382544751 132046 :nooodl_!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382545297 461061 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-136-70.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382545330 582049 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-136-70.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382545407 845283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do not close our corridor door tonight if anybody is still working inside, please. Hopefully the lock gets fixed tomorrow, but currently the opening button does not work." < 1382545414 134390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is kind of tragic, to be stuck at work. < 1382545576 591772 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-136-70.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382546006 256572 :Meilyn!~Meilyn@190.201.13.138 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382546107 890141 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382546145 729569 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382546459 869780 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1382546521 467297 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1382546760 747034 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382546798 739553 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382546800 184981 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382546800 330379 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382546993 455061 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1382547615 999080 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382547691 925288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1382547746 35892 :Meilyn!~Meilyn@190.201.13.138 PART :#esoteric < 1382548188 121304 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-188.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382549028 750971 :^Tristesse^!~Tristesse@108-224-100-84.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382549040 939479 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome ^Tristesse^ < 1382549044 77122 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06^Tristesse^: Welcome to t13he internat04ional hu13b for esote09ric 02pr12ogramming la11nguage desi13gn and dep10loy02ment! F12or mor04e informat02ion, check out 03our08 wiki: http://eso05l05angs.org/wi04ki/Main_Page. (Fo05r the 03o14ther kind of e10sot10er05ica, try #06esoteric on12 i05rc.dal.net.) < 1382549050 336751 :^Tristesse^!~Tristesse@108-224-100-84.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello boily < 1382549078 680608 :^Tristesse^!~Tristesse@108-224-100-84.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's new < 1382549153 983208 :^Tristesse^!~Tristesse@108-224-100-84.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net PART :#esoteric < 1382549257 492687 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ^Tristesse^ the usual. < 1382549257 674338 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382549334 282019 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`välkommen boily < 1382549335 416783 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: välkommen: not found < 1382549340 292857 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? välkommen < 1382549342 406006 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hej och välkommen till den internationella knutpunkten för design och distribution av esoteriska programspråk! För mer information, se vår wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (För den andra sortens esoterism, pröva #esoteric på irc.dal.net.) < 1382549369 617403 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tervetuloa < 1382549371 849842 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervetuloa: ask shachaf < 1382549409 575745 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask shachaf tervetuloa? < 1382549409 721081 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382549485 747037 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? coi < 1382549487 862961 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :coi? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1382549506 659156 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i guess there's a more appropriate word for welcome) < 1382549546 854046 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :coi is approx. "hi", right? < 1382549575 796463 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1382549588 164296 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :co'o is bye i think < 1382549599 252281 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much all i know < 1382549620 386752 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quoi? < 1382549715 842765 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382549716 302286 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojban < 1382549777 783325 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :xu do tavla fi la lojban < 1382549816 463728 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1382549817 406788 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FireFly yes < 1382549817 579424 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1382549822 607955 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1382549822 753846 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly asked 6m 53s ago: tervetuloa? < 1382549827 934093 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great < 1382549886 608634 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k i'm not sure what i asked < 1382549961 857488 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about speaking and lojban, I think < 1382550013 570944 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do you talk ? lojban" but i'm not sure which place fi gives < 1382550032 794613 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember what the lojban vowel order is < 1382550097 79265 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fee fy fo lojbanum. < 1382550261 118810 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-188.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382550833 486265 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382551251 700190 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1382551767 798110 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1382551848 632986 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382551865 660475 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382552141 693426 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382552808 55605 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1382552831 272201 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1382552869 250685 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-25-53.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1382552869 504820 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382553962 992094 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1382553989 860670 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382554347 271079 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382554359 559383 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey folks < 1382554390 204449 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382554392 618929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome Slereahphone < 1382554395 670749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08Slereahphone: 09Welcome 02to 13the 06international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 13design 06and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 13out 06our 04wiki: 07http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 08(For 09the 02other 13kind 06of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1382554536 350088 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's an rwelcome? looks nice! < 1382554566 261150 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's just a rename of the previous rwlcome. < 1382554597 289700 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's different from relcome which is per-character and looks bad imo < 1382554598 816077 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this colors by word, the other one colors randomly I think < 1382554626 607578 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one is a fungotting nightmare to enlatexify. < 1382554627 15124 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the system... if operating... will be connected." :-d i am a scientist.' ( c interface generator), which would explain my ignorance) < 1382554658 198349 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, it does not operate. < 1382554658 437964 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you there tonik? a: not being retarded! < 1382554668 188268 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: and it doesn't explain your ignorance either < 1382554668 543702 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're 13 hours east of me? and please define ' compiled language. < 1382554672 65341 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just make some tex macros that interpret the magic bytes that sets colors in irc? < 1382554695 446527 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1382554695 846286 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :might make the tex source horrible :D < 1382554725 271372 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend is travelling in Japan, so she's 13 hours from me. I should ask her about any bot sighting. < 1382554727 724170 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a sed script that substitutes the coloury IRC bytes with LaTeX macro invocations < 1382554745 389274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: for the record I'm one hour west of you. I think. < 1382554745 643345 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i am going to teach it how to correct the semantics of letrec in r5rs. what's the caveats? < 1382554771 192717 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The caveats of fungot teaching something something? < 1382554771 563744 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but purely for fnord entering in the repl'?" i'm not implying anything resembling creationism, i'm saying he's growing it in the book < 1382554778 891648 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of plenty < 1382554820 383158 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you are a cocoonspirator on the Wisdom repo. you can sed to your heart's content on it. < 1382554841 597482 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So after a few years of joblessness and such I am doing some CS studies < 1382554859 771683 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't have enough disk space to install tex on this system < 1382554864 203266 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now that I'm starting to learn some actual programming < 1382554878 927629 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may go back to esolanging < 1382554906 83556 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe finally implement the Andrei Machine or Limp < 1382554907 496442 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: a full latex system isn't that big. it only takes... < 1382554938 302636 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382554944 339235 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits while the du completes...
< 1382554945 851575 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1382554953 399833 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 1,4 GB. < 1382554983 826818 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any of the old regulars still here? < 1382554992 992721 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I like your github picture. is that bread? < 1382555023 21238 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, merely at least 1GB too big then < 1382555139 32280 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382555167 466891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You can do randomness in LaTeX; our university logo needs that. < 1382555193 656589 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382555197 415884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because it's either A!, A? or A" and the punctuation mark is in one out of three designated colors, randomly.) < 1382555246 195542 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1382555384 200742 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382555615 876409 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah? < 1382555623 926870 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382555670 308856 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah! found it. aalto.fi. < 1382555687 299584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sadly, terribly few official places actually do randomize it. < 1382555729 364268 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the home page is stuck on a yellow “?”. < 1382555730 707431 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382555768 172460 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1382555770 170074 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1382555780 633658 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the bottom header has the " < 1382555788 343583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the per-school pages have the red ?. < 1382555846 590333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The logo generator -- http://aalto.digtator.fi/custom/aaltologoselector.aspx -- does put out random ones. < 1382555887 7254 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382555906 616813 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1382555935 63769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: jpg? :/ < 1382555961 753542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask'a me. < 1382555969 449102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get it as a PDF. < 1382556095 646055 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: jpg??? < 1382556127 251215 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nani!? < 1382556136 159096 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is Roujo! < 1382556333 761494 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1382557161 675422 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, it's a yorkshire pudding < 1382557174 969744 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the mysterious thing that sounds delicious. < 1382557224 943559 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) it's savoury and generally served with a roast and b) I can send you a recipe if you want < 1382557330 972692 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b). < 1382557415 777903 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck < 1382557427 858748 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.eventbrite.com/event/8938393977/ so who's going < 1382557430 938309 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the Andrei machine again < 1382557441 866592 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no fucking clue what I wrote < 1382557442 11737 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :andrei... < 1382557450 671463 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That syntax is terrible < 1382557457 717608 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a pun < 1382557466 569448 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1382557481 825799 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :then how do you explain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andre%C3%AF_Makine < 1382557485 580696 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an esolang based on the Kolmogorov machine < 1382557502 103577 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Kolmogorov's name was Andrei < 1382557650 875397 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382557688 668983 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I still have the notes I wrote down for it < 1382557704 428412 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a lot of old notes around < 1382557778 76099 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1382557806 976385 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0809.4235.pdf help this is scary ;_; < 1382557822 566937 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I followed the links from that story going around about quantum-entanglement-emergent-time and came upon a paper I will never understand) < 1382557886 160249 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hm, i bet this would scare the shit out of bike, better show them" < 1382557917 467054 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reads like snarxiv < 1382557917 906407 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1382557954 325453 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy integrals, batman! < 1382557994 830919 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reads like a pretty standard quantum gravity paper? < 1382558008 976851 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/pdf/1310.4691v1.pdf is the more recent one < 1382558028 364505 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically an experiment to demonstrate a thing where the time-evolution of a system exists with respect to an entangled clock but not a non-entangled clock or something? < 1382558031 294736 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereahphone: like i said. < 1382558044 733891 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:9950:e9e4:e6f7:ad9e JOIN :#esoteric < 1382558045 802707 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're apparently using the quantum eraser or something like that too, but I think I understand about 2% of it < 1382558091 251144 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand more quantum gravity than quantum computings I'm afraid < 1382558269 716674 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:9950:e9e4:e6f7:ad9e QUIT :Client Quit < 1382558643 604580 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell, OpenGL acceleration randomly broke < 1382558822 774902 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1382559172 875265 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-188.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382559402 264313 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... Somehow the kernel headers were not installed < 1382559413 817963 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also dkms fucked up < 1382559487 596020 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1382559501 779075 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1382559579 976009 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the year of the linux desktop is still some way away, there is too much weird breakage still happening for your average user. < 1382559624 475861 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly the year of the linux desktop was actually 1739, we just missed it < 1382559629 257100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And weird quirks. Like if I mute the volume using the key on the keyboard, I have to manually open the pulse audio mixer to unmute. < 1382559634 244627 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-845478218.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1382559639 425416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unmute it from the keyboard buttons < 1382559662 834468 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-188.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382559688 548516 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :When it works, it works spectacularly well though < 1382559733 117430 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and this is with debian stable. Not sure if ubuntu is more "user friendly" as it were < 1382559754 963686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I am using a kernel from backports, so that probably caused part of the proble < 1382559757 599306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem < 1382560029 54548 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1382560157 371929 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382560291 550186 :boily!~boily@208.88.110.46 QUIT :Quit: *FOOM*! < 1382560294 121561 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382560766 743278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use some custom XMonad volume control bindings these days, after switching from the previous XMonad-in-Gnome-in-Ubuntu setup to a plainer XMonad-in-Debian one. < 1382560962 847570 :nooodl__!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1382561097 429689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well I run XMonad on BARE METAL < 1382561110 311957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty HARD CORE. < 1382561114 879352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even dunked my CPU in some hydroflouric acid so that the metal would be more bare < 1382561125 235380 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i run xmonad on electrons i gathered and arranged myself < 1382561125 894857 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1382561186 158244 :nooodl_!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1382561223 575274 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my xmonad electrons are volunteers, no forced labor in my window manager < 1382561355 823178 :epicmonkey!~epicmonke@188.134.41.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1382561371 789452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Selected video codec: ASCII/ANSI art [libavcodec]" apparently mplayer will gamely play also all .txt files if I tell it to play *. < 1382561630 882071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1382561661 349034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :great if you want to watch a whole movie and then a split second of some warez group .nfo file < 1382562507 103900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1382563247 241055 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382563254 741671 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382563683 303620 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Servo crashes if you try to put two sets of umlauts on the same letter :< < 1382563685 676756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not metal enough < 1382563754 216743 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stackbeat is AMAZING! I just don't know how it works. :\ < 1382563756 846369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's too bä̤d. < 1382563858 372749 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stackbeat? < 1382563883 67012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of those music synthesis things. < 1382563884 899413 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I knøw. < 1382563910 756628 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a more thorough explanation on the wiki. < 1382563931 707224 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't its article quite thorough? < 1382563941 13085 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone wrote a forth-inspired RPN thing for the music synthesis thing a year or two ago < 1382563946 876031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø_ø < 1382563973 937171 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :a møøse once bit my sister. < 1382563996 24711 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :øh nø! < 1382563997 820621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :møø < 1382564060 367556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"9 SAN BRUNO - Cow Palace" < 1382564064 5621 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a thing that buses in SF often say < 1382564107 960841 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get it. < 1382564110 111491 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i got lessons in how to pronounce finnish yesterday < 1382564152 882756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: What on earth for? < 1382564158 593694 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When are sounds made, is what I don't get. < 1382564172 239238 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they made after the bitwise operations? < 1382564180 826527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: Well, when a daddy sound and a mommy sound like each other very much... < 1382564185 521001 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to sing songs < 1382564245 290790 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why wouldn't one receive lessons on how to pronounce finnish? < 1382564301 375673 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it turns out you pronounce it a lot like finish < 1382564309 588335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: If the given StackBeat program is represented by the function PROG, the generated sound is just kind of what you get from for (t = 0; t < N; t++) buffer[t] = PROG(t); play(buffer); kind of thing. < 1382564320 351229 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like fin-ish < 1382564323 662697 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's halfway between the two really < 1382564363 357781 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the values? < 1382564375 785991 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To make different sounds? < 1382564412 477207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: Just PCM audio samples. You know. Output sin(k*t) to make a single sine wave, and so on. < 1382564434 313514 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't "You know". < 1382564453 211557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Open some audio file in Audacity or some other audio editor. < 1382564461 706605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll show you the values. < 1382564469 256635 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1382564485 785656 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can recreate it in StackBeat, right? < 1382564516 26294 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in theory. The program might end up rather long for an exact reproduction. < 1382564677 37977 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, but I'm making a small melody. < 1382564680 485731 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 Bottles. < 1382564691 220175 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-220.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1382564779 888570 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1382564818 338555 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could start with a square wave, that's easy to do from bits. < 1382564820 335027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh did anyone make an esolang 99 bottles that was the melody before < 1382564849 993288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try figuring out why 10:2#>1&120* is a tune one octave higher than 10:3#>1&120* for example. < 1382564878 278670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And similarly for 4, 5, ...) < 1382565222 670251 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1382565435 721350 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382565695 698060 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortticat < 1382565890 908055 :nortticat!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :hvidiecat < 1382565917 328020 :hvidiecat!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1382565965 639202 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@861591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1382566109 35664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i was getting used to girl genius updating early again. < 1382566148 737050 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1382566299 726205 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1382566310 209156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm really wondering what about that view made agatha so shocked. educated guess: gil has filled his remaining empire with giant statues of her. < 1382566314 251174 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382566361 681825 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't been here for a while. Anyone on? < 1382566370 900087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome S1 < 1382566373 861692 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06S1: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 13for 06esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 13For 06more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 13http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 06(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 13try 06#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1382566496 860994 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your time zone kmc? < 1382566504 334810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :America/Los_Angeles < 1382566526 991826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is so pissed that it's not America/San_Francisco
< 1382566528 830763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime S1 < 1382566530 595969 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for S1 is Thu Oct 24 00:15:29 2013 < 1382566555 842171 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know one could do that < 1382566562 759562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime kmc < 1382566565 761503 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for kmc is Wed Oct 23 15:16:02 2013 < 1382566584 613717 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a difference < 1382566628 464245 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime oerjan < 1382566628 891178 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for oerjan is Thu Oct 24 00:17:08 2013 < 1382566635 226348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boo! < 1382566647 247826 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is in France, right? < 1382566660 993282 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i'm in America/San_Francisco < 1382566662 850914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sidles scarily close to S1
< 1382566679 102027 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is LA not good enough for you < 1382566682 808789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :je suis francais tre bien aussi < 1382566695 211240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tres < 1382566697 520301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: nope, sorry < 1382566701 48677 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably that's why you left < 1382566713 528197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@loerjantime < 1382566713 673365 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1382566735 754934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Los_Angeles is not good enough for anyone < 1382566736 923467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: you might want to test a few other information-gathering methods. < 1382566737 95351 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my local smoggy city is insufficiently good :< < 1382566748 829815 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1382566748 987663 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1382566757 747422 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-36.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382566759 194214 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1382566759 339378 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap < 1382566759 484620 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1382566768 568135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i'm not talking about lambdabot) < 1382566773 265023 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I know what does what? < 1382566796 593795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help yarr < 1382566796 739138 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarr. Talk to a scurvy pirate < 1382566812 703834 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't like cars :< < 1382566822 964756 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, I'm just teasing you xD) < 1382566841 624575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list haddock < 1382566841 769647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :haddock provides: index < 1382566849 272401 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one thing I don't like about this game is that it doesn't really feel like a Pokemon game < 1382566854 663495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help index < 1382566854 808818 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :index . Returns the Haskell modules in which is defined < 1382566864 430987 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index (+) < 1382566864 576564 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude < 1382566871 885907 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index (<$>) < 1382566872 31033 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382566874 61678 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1382566880 228647 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1382566887 873959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very updated. < 1382566897 33122 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index fromJust < 1382566897 178220 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Maybe < 1382566961 788166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index (<*>) < 1382566961 970729 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382566969 834379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh COME ON < 1382566986 280752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index <*> < 1382566986 426149 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382566990 941676 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index void < 1382566991 102650 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foreign.Marshal.Error, Foreign.Marshal, Foreign < 1382566996 28969 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index ap < 1382566996 174544 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Monad, Control.Monad.Reader, Control.Monad.Writer, Control.Monad.State, Control.Monad.RWS, Control.Monad.Identity, Control.Monad.Cont, Control.Monad.Error, Control.Monad.List, Data.Graph. < 1382566996 319877 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inductive.Query.ArtPoint, Data.Graph.Inductive.Query, Data.Graph.Inductive < 1382567029 700355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's what "defined" means, lambdabot < 1382567085 120361 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps "defined" means "in scope" < 1382567091 960563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in "ERROR: x is not defined" < 1382567108 101785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's not what it means. < 1382567173 733308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index (:$#$#$#:) < 1382567173 883973 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382567190 517218 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index not#valid?name < 1382567190 704888 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382567203 970152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@index (^#->#?) < 1382567204 115356 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzzt < 1382567215 109596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missing all the important operators there. < 1382567221 407358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Those were both real.) < 1382567227 379693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :älä something. < 1382567256 250974 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those read like lens operators < 1382567274 351847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think lens gets _quite_ that bad. < 1382567290 473345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first one is a constructor. < 1382567328 451120 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1382567338 599124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (:$#$#$#:) < 1382567339 301667 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: data constructor `:$#$#$#:' < 1382567340 975456 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The worst in lens is something like <<= < 1382567346 447560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (^#->#?) < 1382567347 206283 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `^#->#?' < 1382567377 899834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<<=) < 1382567378 612002 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `<<=' < 1382567378 757072 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1382567378 757278 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `<<<>=' (imported from Control.Lens), < 1382567386 143504 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's only in HEAD) < 1382567394 944858 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<><) < 1382567395 700712 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `<><' < 1382567395 846121 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1382567395 846295 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : `<>' (imported from Data.Monoid), < 1382567410 817638 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<) < 1382567411 550586 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `<' < 1382567421 229209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^#->#? is from regexdot. < 1382567422 101049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<<<>=) < 1382567423 16106 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monoid r, MonadState s m) => LensLike' ((,) r) s r -> r -> m r < 1382567424 807882 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lens needs a fish operator < 1382567437 981842 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did y'all just create a new esolang? < 1382567444 542324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^#->#?) :: a -> RepetitionBounds -> Repeatable a < 1382567452 237240 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's called "Haskell with lens" < 1382567453 345586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: no, this is haskell's lens library. < 1382567475 563024 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1382567480 144382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lens Haskell DSL < 1382567490 490165 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, no, same reason, ok. < 1382567491 664973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<<>= looks insane, but it's supposedly logical. although i don't quite remember what the initial << means. < 1382567504 713521 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should learn this lang < 1382567509 182026 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382567542 948243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :S1: yep. < 1382567556 892945 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan's response might've been more honest < 1382567575 795268 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1382567580 788681 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that means it gives you the value before it was changed < 1382567588 660422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok from the types i think << means to ... right. < 1382567589 283 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric := means it modifies in the State monad < 1382567596 151813 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<> means it's mappend < 1382567596 529017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what = means. < 1382567611 678938 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(<) has something to do with fish, right? < 1382567615 368804 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (<<>=) < 1382567616 96843 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Monoid r, MonadState s m) => LensLike' ((,) r) s r -> r -> m r < 1382567630 219031 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's a fishy operator < 1382567632 225912 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I ought to train my Pikachu some more < 1382567642 246086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if << gives you _before_ it was changed, just < gives after. i think. < 1382567658 289226 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe hilighting on "train" isn't such a great idea... < 1382567684 773128 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, are you that interested in railway discusisons? < 1382567690 68374 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote train < 1382567691 910932 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :328) The system I kind of have in mind makes a flying train a natural consequence. \ 628) the point of a university is research and training new researchers. the point of the world is to enable this. \ 761) . o O ( (watches on from a distance) I just can't think that abstractly... or I don't want to. I'm more, < 1382567693 79969 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :discussions even < 1382567717 888888 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 761 < 1382567719 616693 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :761) . o O ( (watches on from a distance) I just can't think that abstractly... or I don't want to. I'm more, there are 2 trains heading in opposite directions: what year were they built? How many windows do they have? Is anyone train surfing on them? Is Ringo Starr narrating this problem? ) [...] Do they serve french toast i < 1382567758 338664 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are itidus21's quotes so insightful that they don't fit in a single line? < 1382567784 184748 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1382567808 510020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote 761 | tail -c +200 < 1382567810 286828 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ How many windows do they have? Is anyone train surfing on them? Is Ringo Starr narrating this problem? ) [...] Do they serve french toast in the dining carriage? < 1382567819 501812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote 761 | tail -c +100 < 1382567821 202255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'t want to. I'm more, there are 2 trains heading in opposite directions: what year were they built? How many windows do they have? Is anyone train surfing on them? Is Ringo Starr narrating this problem? ) [...] Do they serve french toast in the dining carriage? < 1382568037 233779 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drowns in text
< 1382568038 979060 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 PART :#esoteric < 1382568055 429380 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 JOIN :#esoteric < 1382568088 412220 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382568251 357115 :nooodl__!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1382568401 725766 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382568417 928990 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: yes? < 1382568490 396946 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lexande < 1382568518 699362 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: oh, okay < 1382568804 74659 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1382568820 249585 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloxande < 1382568896 679715 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have /hilight exande\b < 1382568908 727249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that would match on alexande et al. < 1382568926 77505 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i actually hilight on alexande anyway < 1382568926 938743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :< fishy brackets ><\\> < 1382568974 918968 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have /hilight lexande < 1382569210 142094 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a "/hilight -mask -level quits fungot!*@*" but it doesn't seem to work. < 1382569210 304655 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well " would think so", " < 1382569239 596409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Well if you're so clever, why don't you tell me how to write it. < 1382569239 904313 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the numbers could still be useful for see if something is said on reddit, it must be considered as a crime... i am < 1382569262 313628 :nooodl!~nooodl@121.101-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1382569684 759272 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-136-70.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1382569962 821087 :S1!4ff939c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.249.57.194 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1382570019 615185 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.1 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1382570290 141845 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1382571541 839816 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1382571920 875198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: taking the quotient by a group probably means you have an action of the group, and the equivalence classes are whatever points are mapped to each other by the group action. < 1382572004 561331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you use the usual quotient topology on that if you have one on the original space. < 1382572047 674664 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he didn't define an action! < 1382572067 335177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed that would seem to be a problem. but there is probably an obvious one? < 1382572073 818869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, "obvious". < 1382572090 753120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION isn't overly well-acquainted with 3-spheres.