< 1380586417 732972 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380586457 141396 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380586668 482532 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-egqnctigwjddugmu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380586676 612766 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dlilttkqeottzvjt QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380587135 329121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24328773 news article about hot, naked finns < 1380588088 498737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly what i expected. < 1380588145 371939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool that you can get a sauna box for watching the ice hockey game < 1380588183 782545 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anbshsltmmzctsnj JOIN :#esoteric < 1380589032 168321 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380589135 889455 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380589207 954211 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If Racket-style metaprogramming is compilation-like, and Tcl-style metaprogramming is interpretation-like, what is Ruby-style metaprogramming? < 1380589286 592805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1380589508 323764 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@108.19.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380589514 424030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: bbc's habit of dropping all accents looks really weird when clashing with finnish vowel harmony < 1380589519 904798 :impomatic!~digital_w@108.19.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380589551 743479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i _new_ loyly couldn't be correct, despite never having seen the word before. < 1380589566 428238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*_knew_ < 1380589577 56629 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If compilers can't understand the program, humans probably don't have a good shot either" < 1380589581 39313 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exact quote < 1380589591 921151 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or almost) < 1380589654 660767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and it gets particularly ridiculous when they're making a short _dictionary_... < 1380589692 90434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Forth-style metaprogramming, Unofficial-MagicKit-style metaprogramming, CLC-INTERCAL-style metaprogramming, etc? < 1380589838 793088 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380590379 446516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonghits-style metaprogramming < 1380590609 122593 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380590737 760983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24330722 they managed to keep an ı in kısanak but dropped a lot of other accents. < 1380590749 126259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also that looks like some progress) < 1380590840 321531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the policy is that they will always remove dots but never add them < 1380590861 312829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1380590924 748867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sirri sakik should have had the dots dropped too, so it's simply very inconsistent. < 1380591076 283784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also gulten kısanak is still not _correct_, there are two other letters that _should_ have accents. and wikipedia thinks the e should be an a.) < 1380591126 324857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font makes ı look ugly :( < 1380591132 969465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should look exactly the same as i without the dot, yeah? < 1380591143 226346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does here. < 1380591208 782106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does for me. < 1380591283 170700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about İ < 1380591315 755822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :İ and I look similar < 1380591349 364422 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is İ? < 1380591364 711413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats shachaf -----###
< 1380591386 681782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :♥ < 1380591392 930555 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the only reason i came back < 1380591451 290892 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what is it and why does it sapple < 1380591460 878258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SHES < 1380591487 511142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry my recollection of dmm australian is weak < 1380591516 146524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380591899 585635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! < 1380591903 505119 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1114) aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! < 1380592618 841699 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380593711 808612 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rysxckvsqnuwjwrr JOIN :#esoteric < 1380593877 979852 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define-syntax-rule (defer . e) < 1380593878 162128 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : (defer-funcall ((λ () . e)))) < 1380593897 707968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, Racket? Some languages don't have lambda syntax that's so verbose people feel like reaching for macros to hide them in < 1380594426 590951 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I'll admit how the list of definitions in DrRacket knows about defines produced by macros < 1380594431 477931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^that that's neat < 1380595704 489453 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least from a "that would be completely impossible in Tcl" standpoint < 1380596112 255834 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i looking at an entire convorsation < 1380596120 652875 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it seems you are talking to yourself < 1380596388 238056 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: we get that a lot around here < 1380596574 365225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is nothing against oklopol's famous monologues < 1380597613 803601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: Sometimes an entire conversation does involve talking to yourself, in here, mostly in case someone else doesn't want to answer for some reason (such as not knowing the answer, or not on the IRC window) < 1380597879 179686 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an obvious type mismatch between Qoppa and Racket < 1380597890 143190 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket functions take values, Qoppa operatives take code < 1380597933 581930 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Qoppa "functions" should ideally just be operatives that eval the code they're passed, so can't just say "Only Qoppa functions may be passed to Racket code" < 1380597970 391978 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe Racket values, when given to a Qoppa operative, are sort of opaque things that the only thing you can do with them is eval to get an actual value < 1380599249 850124 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were the days < 1380599315 158370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the days were those. < 1380599337 363684 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i have a feeling the guy who wrote the sauna article has never even been to a finnish sauna < 1380599346 796202 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Within seconds a wave of moist heat creeps up around your ankles and over your legs before enveloping your whole body. Your pores open up and sweat covers you from head to toe." < 1380599359 307555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :creeps up around your ankles? < 1380599515 573551 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also loyly should obviously have umlaut < 1380600276 303440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: see further discussion about how they mangled turkish < 1380600386 43938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should have called them qopperatives < 1380600463 299058 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i kind of guessed that you have already mentioned the loyly issue < 1380600503 966416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/diPCS5C.jpg < 1380600504 747701 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could have at least written loulu < 1380600526 22364 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: thanks for the nightmares < 1380600528 648631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1380600565 51970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1nhglw/test_alliance_is_disbanding/ < 1380600898 46516 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp the US government is officially shut down < 1380600933 338409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy mad max day! hand over your fucking water or i'll blow your head off < 1380600949 669092 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have fun < 1380600976 951870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well if you were in #ptopology you'd already know where I stashed the water < 1380600987 227199 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1380600994 235342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : btw the deal in exchange for me telling y'all where I put the emergency water is, you have to promise not to murder me in an apocalyptic looting-type scenario unless I've already turned into a zombie. in that case, go nuts, have fun with it < 1380601010 182216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does "fun" include experimentation < 1380601036 847924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombi-curious < 1380601120 632323 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking more like, vivisection, but i'm willing to spread out. like, mentally, in addition to spreading out your orifices. < 1380601136 468736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me < 1380601435 604320 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is the worst person to ever live, i dont fucking care what you say but he has destroyed more peoples lives than hitler and god and godhitler combined < 1380601449 635315 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1380601451 924060 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1380601463 883502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi <3 < 1380601503 423769 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"godhitler" are we talking about persona 2 here? < 1380601718 262105 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :veni, vidi, fovit < 1380601734 49172 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380601744 780152 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are talking about the pussy version of kmc < 1380601762 724696 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry, is swearing allowed in this chan) < 1380601769 908939 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies
< 1380601801 36266 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it fuckin ain't < 1380601805 846748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pussy" is kind of a shitty insult though < 1380601819 955242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: I do not think there is a rule against it, but nevertheless I advise against swearing too often that that just convolutes stuff. < 1380601820 960492 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo the whole "calling someone the worst person to ever live for no reason" thing is the bigger issue < 1380601830 738332 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: i forget, was the hitler god or someone else < 1380601916 429848 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1380601917 875374 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play 2 < 1380601937 145342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh wow i thought you were a persona authority? way to lie about your authority < 1380601937 290880 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just know persona involves killing god and 2 has hitler somehow < 1380601942 358634 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only know 3 and 4 >_< < 1380601948 370545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should mention that hitler is also your dad < 1380601950 124702 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good game imo < 1380602034 886896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://web.archive.org/web/20110110081155/http://overcompensating.com/posts/20080603.html < 1380602104 294075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes fuck < 1380602114 878832 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.17910 < 1380602117 225229 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish i was self cleaning < 1380602124 16915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you < 1380602147 721959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 242 < 1380602149 550793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :242) okay see in my head it went, you send from your other number smth like "i'd certainly like to see you in those pink panties again" and she's like "WHAT?!? Sgeo took a pic?!?!?! that FUCKING PIG" < 1380602154 184405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty curious about the context of this one................ < 1380602219 623766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a woman who seemed to like me but when I texted her had no idea who I was < 1380602230 573167 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though I had given her my number before < 1380602239 369311 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And had texted her before telling her who was texting her < 1380602252 173023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that sounds creepy < 1380602259 471688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :/ < 1380602266 548769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did she have pink panties tho < 1380602285 100668 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea. < 1380602302 327284 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20342 < 1380602306 993736 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, wait no < 1380602336 567877 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog pink panties < 1380602362 192734 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.healthcare.gov/ "just to rub it in" < 1380602376 469996 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.25271 < 1380602468 874800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/log/_esoteric/2011-02-28 why is this broken < 1380602514 297437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formatted logs are broken. the text logs are ok. (GREGOR) < 1380602577 15780 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/2011-02-28.txt < 1380602858 442390 :Ghoul__!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anbshsltmmzctsnj NICK :\t < 1380602888 246459 :\t!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anbshsltmmzctsnj NICK :Guest88757 < 1380602925 355796 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These Realm of Racket videos are making my eyes bleed < 1380602926 857946 :Guest88757!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anbshsltmmzctsnj NICK :Ghoul_ < 1380602939 208261 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OOH LOOK RACKET HAS AUTOMATIC GARBAGE COLLECTION" < 1380602993 406593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual garbage collection < 1380603227 890626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how much are the rating agencies gonna downrate the USA this time < 1380603267 46933 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not in a debt default < 1380603278 844063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it the last time they did? < 1380603282 356604 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380603297 381113 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the government is no longer allowed to spend money on many things < 1380603309 673307 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a bunch of provisions in place for money that needs to be paid, like debts and essential services < 1380603330 78137 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what happened in the 90s < 1380603352 616484 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that people were panicing about before and might happen again come October is the debt ceiling < 1380603371 198699 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that gets hit, the government can no longer borrow money, and at that point it actually runs out of money and can't even spend it on essential stuff < 1380603378 134416 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the bright side, my firefighting-for-profit business will really shine < 1380603381 759936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i thought this _was_ the debt ceiling. < 1380603388 758701 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's appropriations < 1380603399 618838 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because currently the only way that the US government can work is by borrowing massive amounts of money very rapidly < 1380603404 944190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn appropriations < 1380603407 281472 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "appropriations". < 1380603414 71295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO SUCH WORD < 1380603416 997269 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: basically the authorization to spend money < 1380603420 831927 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1380603432 29394 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :put some chocolate next to my CPU < 1380603440 270018 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(next to laptop on desk) < 1380603454 321150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.usda.gov <-- alright i'm officially bugging out < 1380603457 263252 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the authorization to spend money is the giant carrot for the administration to do what congress wants < 1380603496 459251 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: very funny... hm... yeah... hm... < 1380603544 677662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right you and your non-parliamentarism < 1380603578 117884 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it ain't mine < 1380603584 343015 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the Westminster system works exactly the same way < 1380603594 666750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the debt ceiling is about paying the interest on the loans for money we've /already borrowed/ isn't it < 1380603600 858617 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that if this were any Westminster system, the PM would have already been sent packing < 1380603603 868738 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: p. much < 1380603621 56871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway we could still get downrated for having fucked politics < 1380603624 314012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was part of the last downrating < 1380603639 918580 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, and this has shown that the Dems and Reps won't compromise even when it has big consequences < 1380603645 436632 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would not be totally surprised by a downgrade < 1380603659 78812 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't be "OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK" quite yet < 1380603674 490453 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so, how likely do you think we are to deal with climate change sanely? < 1380603677 743882 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the US hits the debt ceiling, it will be a while before it actually defaults since it can cut spending, etc. < 1380603681 817549 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you? 0% < 1380603684 837828 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :us? 1% < 1380603711 430000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes let's 'compromise' with the dangerous extremists who use hostage taking as their one and only political tool < 1380603734 243332 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're referring to the tea party, right? < 1380603737 595037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380603757 178688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole "both parties are at fault for not getting along" is garbage < 1380603786 395483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Republicans don't mind wrecking the government to prove a political point < 1380603802 371028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they believe govt is the problem and they are determined to use their position of power to prove it < 1380603824 622504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they care more about hurting Obama and the Democrats even if they destroy the economy in the process < 1380603837 131450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are not people you "compromise" with < 1380603858 577254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie NICK :fizziev < 1380603877 781691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssize_t fizziev(int fd, const struct iovec *iov, int iovcnt); < 1380603886 106958 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I agree with you < 1380603902 504736 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are basically fucked as long as the members of the 10% approval congress are still inexplicably getting reelected < 1380603902 649969 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now go fix it < 1380603958 445236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh usa.gov is prominently still advertising the health marketplace plan :P < 1380603977 92699 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.healthcare.gov/ < 1380604001 247463 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like, seriously. Get everyone you know to get out there and get on the campaign warpath < 1380604041 994802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't just complain about shit on the internets < 1380604046 858206 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you too < 1380604058 584023 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't care, start goddamn caring < 1380604059 589540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for the advice coppro < 1380604077 151937 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your country is running itself into the fucking ground and taking the rest of us with it < 1380604079 166491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm just thinking that the government might be particularly pissing off the republicans by not shutting that down < 1380604081 727359 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is a coppro philiac < 1380604085 871163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1380604110 878712 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The authors of obamacare did their work and made sure it was appropriated already < 1380604117 676892 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're allowed to spend money on it < 1380604251 120083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but it's still waving a red flag < 1380604256 456751 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sure < 1380604276 791465 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE < 1380604290 917917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'RE GONNA KEEP OBAMACARE GOING IF NOTHING ELSE IS < 1380604319 857732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mad max but everyone has good hospital coverage < 1380604341 57070 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you usaian? < 1380604353 973073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bike < 1380604356 543061 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike is from Luxembourg. < 1380604369 32074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1380604374 258497 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I refuse to call you american right now because I share a continent with you egotistical maniacs) < 1380604377 304386 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks < 1380604379 732669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1380604387 198946 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, kmc: this is your mess: http://www.oecd.org/media/oecdorg/satellitesites/newsroom/44222075health%20expenditure.jpg < 1380604387 356784 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mexican, eh < 1380604393 933996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's mexican healthcare even like < 1380604416 620885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i'm whistling innocently because i've never got the full impression of the truthfulness of that wisdom. < 1380604439 684059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also bike is definitely connecting from the usa < 1380604468 633497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: probably socialist < 1380604489 599446 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything HackEgo says is true < 1380604682 587213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm norway and luxembourg are the only ones with larger public expenditure, although much less private of course < 1380604799 515689 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back during Martha Coakley's campaign, I did make some calls for her campaign < 1380604804 668255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just "opened" trondheim's renovated hospital (it's been running all through the rebuilding process) < 1380605118 252780 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1380605141 609730 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking at raw data < 1380605162 948698 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are only 6 OECD countries that spend more on health care per capita than the US private sector does < 1380605278 101128 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did the PLT team design such a .. bizarre OO system for Racket < 1380605557 466762 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380605615 274901 :dan200!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :20WAC83QP < 1380605615 420179 :20WAC83QP!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380605669 999252 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380605678 455199 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380605772 979367 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380605807 66121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: why am i not in bed already < 1380606694 504726 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://billmoyers.com/2013/09/30/shutdown-imminent-how-he-said-she-said-reporting-helped-bring-us-to-the-brink/ nice article re: "both parties are at fault for not getting along", if you haven't seen it yet < 1380606759 60967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's still a nice article if you have seen it. < 1380608135 678498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you programmed in SNOBOL? < 1380608149 34732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380608232 586674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither have I < 1380608488 151938 :zanahoria123!~zanahoria@dyn-209-2-220-181.dyn.columbia.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380608546 685466 :zanahoria123!~zanahoria@dyn-209-2-220-181.dyn.columbia.edu PART #esoteric :"Leaving..." < 1380608835 771434 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Sandiwch < 1380609495 975749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this OK so far? http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/hwpl.txt Tell me what kind of things may be added/removed/changed/idea/question/complain. < 1380611254 286690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "interleave" and "select" operators of INTERCAL are built-in to HWPL (although the "interleave" operator is called MORTON). < 1380611398 746256 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380611477 362175 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380611499 434773 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about :)? < 1380611522 341352 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty happy today < 1380611531 18471 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any reason? < 1380611533 32968 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1380611551 37942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reason? < 1380611551 803346 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last night I found out that someone I met at uni has read my MSPAFA < 1380611566 425364 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is MSPAFA? < 1380611583 382399 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS Paint Adventures Fan Adventure < 1380611591 767098 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a story in the format of MSPA < 1380611596 373100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1380611638 573493 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds adventurous < 1380611644 591599 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380611659 147330 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, someone's just followed me on Tumblr I think because I posted some Haskell < 1380611677 509772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: do you follow me on twitter < 1380611736 797931 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1380611768 454249 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1380611773 542424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it because of haskell i posted < 1380611777 135910 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :give that tumblrer some haskell < 1380611784 916367 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tumblerers love haskell < 1380611878 76728 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380611891 30085 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, no it was because you linked it once < 1380611904 805563 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380611914 548372 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :were all the tweets to your satisfaction < 1380611915 107771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :has shachaf tweeted anything yet? < 1380611930 991068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes (but no more than last time) < 1380611942 984660 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know I haven't been on twitter in ages < 1380611947 87838 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "@shachaf hasn't tweeted yet." < 1380611963 881071 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380612016 438160 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitter should die already < 1380612035 954831 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a lie < 1380612044 225030 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i tweeted and deleted < 1380612115 734516 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do this, do retweets get deleted, too? < 1380612166 973839 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, how does it feel to be living in an anarchy? < 1380612192 162486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ban anarchy < 1380612196 284058 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bananarchy < 1380612206 139402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR ?A IN #16 BITS: CASE ?A: RESULT ?A[#15 TO #8]*?A[#7 TO #0]; It is a HWPL code to make a ROM of multiplication data. Is this OK like this, to you? < 1380613554 221348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hard to believe that a certain individual has been in #haskell for over three years. < 1380613614 208249 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you the certain individual? < 1380613657 656723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1380613683 42207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the individual on /ignore so I don't actually really know what they're saying. < 1380613689 574883 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am /I/ the individual? < 1380613716 72865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :[is this the part where i pretend i didn't hear what Taneb said] < 1380613726 25816 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :[yes] < 1380613947 210343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :[kind of] < 1380613991 734012 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, how long have I been in #haskell < 1380614053 605166 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little under two years? < 1380614151 77694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, who knows how many nicks you had previously. < 1380614213 746055 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I was Taneb when I joined < 1380614254 939851 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Ngevd? < 1380614275 769038 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1380614296 971424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The people in #haskell actually seem to think some good will come out of this. < 1380614356 793467 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a poor memory for people, what's the issue? < 1380614405 748923 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are making lots of noise so I can't sleep. < 1380614451 457008 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But in #haskell it's just general hopelessness. < 1380614577 902614 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mark my words, etc. < 1380614794 712919 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, you done much interesting lately? < 1380614817 255109 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1380614829 328638 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wold is emptiness and void and people WON'T BE QUIET < 1380614894 641486 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :y☹s < 1380615170 14871 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nꙮ < 1380615349 643204 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...am I the only person who understood lenses without really trying? < 1380615375 537976 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenses are pretty straightforward. < 1380615407 698589 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean specifically the van whatshisname lenses < 1380615419 273830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, learning about lenses does require some capacity for learning. < 1380615419 419388 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are straightforward too < 1380615474 562467 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, iirc when I first learnt lenses I was really confused and didn't know what was going on but that was with data-lens < 1380615549 769371 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn;t data-lens use an even straightforwarder representation though < 1380615572 54454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :data-lens used s -> Store a s or something < 1380615575 858750 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380615596 64850 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The store comonad coalgebra < 1380617666 172039 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.182 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380618088 345799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I must understand lenses because I almost invented it independently once. < 1380618441 223114 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I didn't quite do a good job of it though.) < 1380618729 156815 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380618926 611607 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.112.180.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380622596 480588 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380623174 387833 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380627101 428181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380627398 240664 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380628225 158241 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380630846 77576 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380631416 153787 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380631577 138685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380631705 648735 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380631776 790774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380631776 936331 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1380632416 947086 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380632868 728346 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380632974 885195 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380633136 222524 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good what-with-repetitive-animals-and-domain-names morning! < 1380635069 767681 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.59 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380636759 725275 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380636950 747554 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rysxckvsqnuwjwrr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380636986 777876 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-anbshsltmmzctsnj QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380636994 429610 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spwbdopgfsaxucfx QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1380637048 829975 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbcbjgxnvidqemno QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380637105 389415 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lzsjcfwjiugkqnwf QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1380638394 570801 :ssue___!uid5338@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mailqpeygbyexpyw JOIN :#esoteric < 1380638862 884189 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775 < 1380638887 497950 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ what is this thing I don't even holy fungot it's wonderful it has stuff and things and wooooooooah... < 1380639002 547441 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glkcnavviziaxwmv JOIN :#esoteric < 1380639962 326961 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, nice, how did you find that? < 1380640192 919579 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380640312 79467 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: a comment under http://blog.xkcd.com/2013/09/30/asteroid-4942-munroe/ < 1380640317 665722 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380640318 917977 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380641947 722724 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380643581 195134 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380644013 735790 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pcsjvyuuiyauqfke JOIN :#esoteric < 1380644190 589843 :Guest88757!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvdefklvazdbeeel JOIN :#esoteric < 1380644196 964587 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eybijqlrrtxwiruo JOIN :#esoteric < 1380644695 686917 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.objectiveministries.org/zounds/review-minecraft.html wat < 1380645016 482008 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=objective+ministries < 1380645126 777921 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380645144 266022 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too obvious imo < 1380645245 703819 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380645262 523983 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380645273 250569 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I carried the about-to-be-retired webserver laptop (there's e.g. fungot on it) to the living room in preparation of starting to move things off of it, and now it no longer boots. < 1380645331 493164 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.59 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So fungot is TRAPPED IN A PORTABLE CAGE < 1380645334 683197 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1380645335 87570 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you should have carried it in preparation of something less drastic. < 1380645339 499077 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it hang in boot process or is it just dead < 1380645393 423617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: It's just dead. I suspect its the made-in-China "Replacement AC Adapter", which (IIRC) had a LED on it that no longer lights up when I plug it in the wall. < 1380645681 808605 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: WUT? < 1380645694 784327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but, but... what are we gonna do without fungot? < 1380645725 30024 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380645809 551525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It is a problem, to be sure. Most of the things on that box were on an external USB drive, which I can get at easily, but fungot lived in /home and therefore is on the 2.5" (IDE) HD. And I have no idea where my 2.5"-to-3.5" IDE adapter could be. (I think I had one.) < 1380645992 621406 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you open the USB drive and splice in the IDE HD? < 1380646043 205011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The USB drive is actually an USB enclosure and a standard 3.5" drive. The problem is that the 2.5" interface has a different connector. < 1380646064 622013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should go hunt for the adapter. < 1380646089 604487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also one thing on the external HD is a Cyrus IMAP two-point-something-outdated database, which I was hoping to extract by reading it over IMAP, because that wouldn't involve installing a Cyrus somewhere.) < 1380646106 259246 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :drives and their all unique adapters... we need a new standard to unify all drives together! < 1380646176 874230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lemmings are cute critters) < 1380646782 600810 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380647223 607431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The adapter was: the absolute bottommost thing in the last place I had left to look at. < 1380647309 392200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kept finding all sorts of tangentially related things (two other 2.5" HDs, a 3.5" floppy drive along with Slackware 8.1 RC1 installation floppies, a Fast-SCSI terminator, an absolutely ridiculous pile of IDE and floppy ribbon cables) but not it. < 1380648308 674760 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380648706 251693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although much of the federal workforce will go without pay, checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress. Why? The 27th Amendment prevents any Congress from changing its own pay." < 1380649217 763447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, of course: the 2.5" HD does not work in the USB enclosure with the adapter. < 1380649224 868267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Doesn't spin up or anything.) < 1380649262 28169 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have any backups? < 1380649357 894149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irregular ones, of this system. It's been sort of a project to get rid of it. < 1380649367 583619 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380649382 899466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I got it at least spin up; turns out I had an off-by-one error in the 2.5" IDE connector. < 1380649392 487704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It doesn't have the pin-20 "key" it's supposed to have.) < 1380649439 185146 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is still salvageable! < 1380649506 902684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reading data off of it at the moment. < 1380649517 341725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then I need to actually do something with it.) < 1380650133 192285 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380650170 298812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :./cfunge: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./cfunge) < 1380650173 449401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, versions. < 1380650462 209002 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have the code? < 1380650520 482168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, it's cfunge. < 1380650532 841918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone (potentially) has the code. < 1380650550 276347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess there's the chroot patch, but I do have that too.) < 1380650600 985140 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lettuce prey for fungot's survival! < 1380650663 911628 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380650833 749715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perfect time to switch to CCBI2! < 1380650921 750834 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :github is once again unicorning... < 1380651052 651196 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist (922) < 1380651053 534646 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380651057 271712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist (922): shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1380651061 459018 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380651095 591540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb fungot < 1380651096 121986 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it means that those shifts will intrinsically be slower than readjust my brain for such rubbish, of course, i don't < 1380651127 286290 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who are you calling rubbish < 1380651127 470450 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm working on that < 1380651136 758040 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How do you feel on your new host? < 1380651137 396160 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's not about how he use his own scheme implementation leveraging the work of a tortured mind making a single last grasp for a semblance of comforting sanity overlaid upon a fundamentally chaotic at ultimately inimical universe. < 1380651145 869979 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds good. < 1380651147 403608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1380651147 548866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1380651208 814536 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crashed :-( < 1380651208 959786 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams." < 1380651261 262957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad mac < 1380651314 265508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs fungot
< 1380651314 890032 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: riastradh i'll give it back, and if < 1380651412 61685 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... the codu logs are still broken :-( < 1380651454 616295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGS! :) < 1380651577 525518 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can I use ~duck, or am I still banned from it? < 1380651577 670955 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i dont know < 1380651592 521836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fiendish sleazy bot. < 1380651597 191163 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380652155 724172 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blue scream of death < 1380652724 524008 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams." is an error message from BeOS. < 1380652758 842394 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: you're running BeOS? what version? < 1380652776 191650 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.59 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380652858 305579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee os < 1380652869 219470 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nortti: not any more. I'll get it up and running again as soon as I find a copy. < 1380652899 524999 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed an eBay auction recently. It went for 99p < 1380652939 155828 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380652957 167811 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380652961 212474 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380652996 699997 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I should really set up a dedicated BeOS machine < 1380653010 29394 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the thing will simply not boot in emulator < 1380653036 192893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the original BeOS boot in virtualbox? < 1380653083 242427 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you tried Haiku? < 1380653104 672161 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea but it requires more RAM than most of my testbeds have < 1380653115 423306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I just finished downloading alpha 4. < 1380653115 776893 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should start upgrading my styff < 1380653124 227371 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nope < 1380653221 23270 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has pre-ordered a Parallella. 16 core board.
< 1380653267 263405 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea what I can do with it... < 1380653593 77533 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380653785 304967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.parallella.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/first_parallella_cluster2.jpg I like the "just stick some fans nearby" approach to cooling < 1380653904 507878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: use genetic algorithms to evolve the ultimate brainfuck derivative? < 1380653935 305517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.73 megabrickbrains / second < 1380654044 181643 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted by the cluster. But I still wouldn't know what to do with it :-) < 1380654071 670369 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could develop and run pargot, a parallel cousin of fungot < 1380654071 815874 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: the module system < 1380654090 188988 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is there such a thing as a parallel -funge? < 1380654107 989726 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you get perpendicular? < 1380654108 236508 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i couldn't evaluate your expression in the second line < 1380654110 700446 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably just use it for entering contests that need a bit of brute force. E.g. Al Zimmermann's programming contests. < 1380654117 383238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there are no second line! < 1380654117 743575 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if i send this patch? ( 1/ 3 1/ 3)) ( 3 4) < 1380654119 457930 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what are you all about < 1380654119 655452 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ( use srfi-1) is fnord formal semantics?) < 1380654131 258845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: learn to parentheses hth < 1380654131 920297 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: or two instances of any scheme. :) hehe, doesn't seem like that to assemble... i'm still just barely coming to grips with the task of preparing a meal that acquires a taste beyond the sum of the rest < 1380654157 945917 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is fungot skynet? < 1380654158 91381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparing a meal that acquires a taste beyond the sum of the rest < 1380654158 236785 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i like the algorithm and have it out with different variations were. < 1380654160 191108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :very ambitious < 1380654166 2080 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1380654197 257684 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fungot can do it < 1380654197 737580 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i guess you don't get into specific trouble you'll run into performance issues with sisc, they work on states, using compact bit arrays and copying them will always keep us in second place next to obl < 1380654360 447123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so compact bit arrays are the key to cooking a Beyond the Sum Meal. < 1380654508 936527 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380654514 860000 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380654617 644391 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380654636 432407 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sum Meals.. are they related to monad burritos? < 1380654684 33075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a monad burrito like a burrito burrito? < 1380654710 532614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :burrito burrito buffalo buffalo buffalo. < 1380654712 50633 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is searching for files which seem to have disappeared from the net :-(
< 1380654751 727650 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you know that monads are just free monad monad monad algebras < 1380654780 850061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380654801 856786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? monad monad < 1380654804 225252 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :monad monad? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380655010 159875 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380655205 729191 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380655250 185628 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380655324 639713 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380655343 197567 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380655417 468690 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380655574 874115 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1380655636 4280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655636 403184 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655636 548391 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655636 984756 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655637 130435 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655637 430855 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655637 948768 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1380655652 622103 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380655862 99740 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380656026 823957 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... http://dronegames.co - receive a (free?) Parrot AR Drone to hack. Suggested hacks - "Detect a face and follow that person" < 1380656156 890389 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. Not free... < 1380656548 482918 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380656580 140772 :fizziew!~htkallas@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380656656 912109 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380656911 52325 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, sending a packet with an unexpected IP crashes qemu with an assertion failure < 1380657057 176753 :fizziew!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380657069 912895 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380657123 420821 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380657801 910271 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1380657906 222760 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380658123 217973 :fizzie!fis@2001:470:df67:40::2 QUIT :Changing host < 1380658123 978751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1380658124 123906 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380658651 65416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what qualifies as an unexpected IP? < 1380658662 369478 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 0, I think < 1380658679 194212 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1380658743 857984 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am indeed surprised. < 1380658796 213276 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Addendum [SCP-294ad]: Researcher produced request consisting solely of the phrase "surprise me". Device produced a opaque cup containing normal water, later determined to have been heated to approximately 200 degrees Celsius. Upon receiving vibration from transport, the contents of the cup turned into steam, violently spraying boiling water in a 2-meter radius. < 1380658798 548276 :myndzl!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Quit: . < 1380658798 693564 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1380658809 205786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellambdabo < 1380658824 459072 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380659744 182445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380660291 380827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use super::super::longhands; < 1380660481 450402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it better to use simple gotos for clearer logic or complicate while type structures? < 1380660481 811506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: fnord sent me their cd suite with all their laziness) but couldn't get what i mean < 1380660743 556419 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: cleaner logic prevails. < 1380660756 478147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(althought a nice monad is best, imho.) < 1380660928 488982 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380661368 358161 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380661368 532088 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380661461 174696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's a good naming scheme for lenses onto one or more values, zero or one values, zero or more values < 1380662088 8169 :Guest88757!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvdefklvazdbeeel NICK :Ghoul_ < 1380662124 238575 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvdefklvazdbeeel NICK :Ghoul__ < 1380662150 332818 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380662723 758460 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380662953 152142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380663530 28741 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Still not poulet. < 1380663531 880051 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380663706 255882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unbounded adversary" is the name of kmc's new band < 1380663766 65071 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380663819 76876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to book flights to korea < 1380663864 45493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which passenger equivalence class will you be in < 1380663895 89402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst one :'( < 1380664119 176852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1380664121 269542 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1380664138 307434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already `olisted! < 1380664144 760911 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should we add you to the `olist so you get notified? < 1380664154 128751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think it was already done, also we customarily include the number these days. < 1380664161 709286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1380664173 552381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you should include the number < 1380664173 701957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, because I typically check OOTS before I check #esoteric < 1380664189 491982 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what if you're in #esoteric and it beeps your name? < 1380664193 935771 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you'd know straight away. < 1380664195 55665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps those list scripts should check the number and only ping the nicks if the number is greater than the previous number? < 1380664218 148146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah but statistically, considering the proportion of the time I'm online, if anyone else olists I've probably already seen it < 1380664232 650038 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and the nicks in question were online at the time? < 1380664239 612937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No I don't think that will be necessary, and it might not work correctly anyways due to various reasons. < 1380664240 899183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps! < 1380664250 264930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What's one extra filesystem commit for every Xlist between friends?) < 1380664310 984047 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :being on the same list doesn't mean that you're friends < 1380664316 586036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be enemies < 1380664320 630113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just make it only ping people who are online at the time, and check logs to see who it's already pinged < 1380664483 338160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think that is necessary; it complicates things that don't need to be. < 1380664665 44548 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380664671 934567 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/neilfws/status/385161327422885888/photo/1 forgot this site was us gov't >_> < 1380665308 894406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with zzo38. unless you want to implement it properly. and on this channel "online" doesn't mean "actually present and will see this before pinging out". < 1380665358 623543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and/or < 1380665533 161387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord |-|| | < 1380665535 188600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :124 45 124 124 32 124 < 1380665545 367879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380665560 941791 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1380665665 655289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently | will show up as | in tables under some conditions, which the Pointy article works with < 1380665772 431472 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord | | < 1380665774 107363 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :124 32 124 < 1380665827 539821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i was checking of those were actually the same character < 1380665861 234926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like they were, hthth < 1380666101 904794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdhdh < 1380666169 84661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly wonders if he can say eighth
< 1380666184 569682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so < 1380666376 98148 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380666716 882031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tefaj: gnineve derorrim doog < 1380666760 166264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gnimmargorp < 1380666762 206088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnimmargorp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380666774 994158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380666808 892162 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380666810 222574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i misspell it or did someone delete it :( < 1380666825 657181 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | tac | ? < 1380666827 671834 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380666835 761461 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | tac - | ? < 1380666837 513433 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380666840 553063 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1380666845 975716 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | tac < 1380666847 352167 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming < 1380666860 847860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you want rev not tax < 1380666863 339127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tac < 1380666879 558555 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | reev < 1380666881 170181 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: reev: command not found < 1380666881 800353 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | rev < 1380666883 110762 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnimmargorp < 1380666884 856082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also to understand the difference between stdio and argv < 1380666891 882856 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i got that much < 1380666900 718738 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lousy unix philosophy grumble grumble < 1380666913 223630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*gorp < 1380666915 254690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/grimmargorp < 1380666923 277708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic < 1380666927 346488 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmirg. sensible. < 1380666929 439652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? grimmargorp < 1380666931 949446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Þór, Grimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg! < 1380666939 74589 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh nice < 1380666954 417242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf did it get entered like that. maybe someone actually misspelled it first. < 1380666974 21778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i know i entered it. minus some later correction.) < 1380666978 596477 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's presumably a joke based on gnimmargorp looking like old germanic, rather than a replacement < 1380666979 380363 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo programming | rev | xargs ? < 1380666981 758883 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnimmargorp? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380666993 307872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes. < 1380667000 491006 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380667027 508204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, *old norse < 1380667042 749801 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog grimmargorp < 1380667059 8254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the spelling is icelandic, not genuine old norse. < 1380667063 909943 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380667065 314063 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grimmargorpurinn sounds like an Icelandic volcano < 1380667086 655759 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.10185 < 1380667141 544122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. old norse didn't use ö but ǫ) < 1380667144 601018 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm going to forget all about grimmargorpurinn all too soon <-- prophetic words < 1380667169 134253 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog gnimmargorp < 1380667186 521835 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.20742 < 1380667219 279627 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's... disappointing < 1380667220 852405 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect i may have introduced the error. < 1380667249 385353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs g.immargorp < 1380667282 426984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.14333 < 1380667365 139180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, only one thing to do < 1380667404 978951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed 's/rimmar/nimmar/' wisdom/grimmargorp >wisdom/gnimmargorp < 1380667408 960469 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380667416 380992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? gnimmargorp < 1380667418 626222 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Þór, Gnimmargorpurinn hefur sloppið! Ragnarök eru nálæg! < 1380667491 392982 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnimmargorp doesn't sound as good :( < 1380667515 318116 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380667522 790949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: thus why i didn't delete the old one < 1380667545 454805 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*phew* < 1380667585 606133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe gnimmargorp ought just be "common misspelling of the Grimmargorp" < 1380667700 760484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that google translate doesn't know how to translate "misspelling" into icelandic. < 1380667886 986883 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! that's a fun fact < 1380668393 173754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogrimmar is some kind of a WoW thing. < 1380668499 947444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '"Gnimmargorp" er algeng stafsetningarvilla af "grimmargorp"' >wisdom/gnimmargorp < 1380668504 84298 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380668511 551615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '"Gnimmargorp" er algeng stafsetningarvilla af "grimmargorp".' >wisdom/gnimmargorp < 1380668515 385492 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380668556 682276 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :stafsetningarvilla? why does the mis end up on the other side of spelling? < 1380668567 47765 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"spelling error" < 1380668617 926516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm not sure about the preposition "af". < 1380668650 791282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found an instance of that use, but norwegian would use "for" in a similar position. < 1380668722 160062 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :swedish would also use "av" I think < 1380668756 619575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stavfel av? < 1380668788 821190 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell does rustc decide what match blocks are non-exhaustive and what not? < 1380668804 938998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there are few hits in either case but more for "af" than for "fyrir", although maybe i've misunderstood what icelandic uses for "for". < 1380668915 339259 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, "felstavning av" ... feels like stavfel doesn't take an object, it's more like "a spelling mistake" perhaps < 1380668935 129743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1380668957 803153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, in that case norwegian would also use "av" < 1380669659 266426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to create wisdom/nutirrof but it's too meta even for me. < 1380669678 976093 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nutirrof? < 1380669705 594494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest meta-lateral thinking to understand that < 1380669749 630556 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can we have a new featured language. < 1380669766 657619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's entirely possible. < 1380669775 780051 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ahem. < 1380669780 452504 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta-lateral sounds like complicated thinking... I'm not even good at normal lateral thinking < 1380669813 69564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's related to grimmargorp. < 1380669820 827523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe it should be rutirrof. < 1380669822 982928 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: if you pick one I'll write a blurb for it < 1380669890 770557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how about brainfuck? might as well get it out the way with < 1380669899 567804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1380669917 724267 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380669967 345589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does an april fool's joke last until October anyway? < 1380670013 482238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey it's just half a year < 1380670045 732619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm going to have to word this so that the b isn't at the start of a sentence < 1380670062 240593 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380670127 75388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs fungot
< 1380670127 644035 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you come across as a fascist would do that < 1380670141 555610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascists were big on hugs? < 1380670172 61991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indubitably < 1380670208 171211 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380670396 368911 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: there, I've updated the main page blurb < 1380670399 492415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do the rest? < 1380670448 325484 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i like hugs, am i a fascist < 1380670448 510202 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm installing 1.5 now < 1380670459 333574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, fungot 1.5. that sounds bad. < 1380670459 581056 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thanks for the help! < 1380670479 774317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i ain't helping you < 1380670480 352343 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that is, a socket may be simultaneously used in multiple places. that kind of coin... well, i just wrote < 1380670506 447186 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1380670524 676068 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nice capitalisation trick :) < 1380670547 746960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, I had to contort a bit to pull that off, but we can't have controversial capitalization on the main page < 1380670652 774073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, doesn't hugs not even have typeclasses < 1380670676 159795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, it doesn't not even have type classes (nor typeclasses) < 1380670716 261745 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of shit isn't even not this isn't < 1380670936 131450 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380671318 132813 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380671514 125694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hugs descends from the first haskell implementation to have constructor type classes (i.e. not just kind * types) < 1380671530 536347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1380671624 509282 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes sense to me < 1380671792 138617 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EFF67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380671931 710838 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380672336 661233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'t is common to respond to an e-mail rendered unreadable by character mangling (referred to as "betűszemét", meaning "garbage lettering") with the phrase "Árvíztűrő tükörfúrógép", a nonsense phrase (literally "Flood-resistant mirror-drilling machine") containing all accented characters used in Hungarian.' < 1380672480 54041 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380672528 572700 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380672532 667524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that phrase isn't nonsensical, it describes an entirely well-defined object < 1380672539 186960 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not a particularly useful one < 1380672583 324253 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… "Árvíztűrő" is way easier to pronounce than "tükörfúrógép" < 1380672584 817869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried < 1380672694 130858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hungarian words can be hard to pronounce because all words inflect the same way < 1380672706 372372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of how hard the added letters for the inflection might be to pronounce in context < 1380673021 386720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380673161 62142 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION facepalms at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYMeOLpk5_8
< 1380673252 852749 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380673734 883081 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380673762 128412 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a fun evening < 1380673774 148645 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watched the Avengers followed by Monty Python and the Holy Grail < 1380673883 993011 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you ever played flipperless pinball games? < 1380674048 577516 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380674242 19977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no < 1380674290 376654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shall we have a betting pool of how soon before Taneb's sleep schedule unravels < 1380674300 694589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*on < 1380674326 830207 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I just found out that while I was watching these movies, a fire occured in my flat complex thing! < 1380674336 962937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380674345 532449 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently they had to evacuate and some people have to be rehoused < 1380674346 863599 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you played other pinball games? < 1380674390 567504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you played ball-less pinball games < 1380674401 323105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pin-less, for that matter. < 1380674418 188177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: .... wowo < 1380674422 551160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: glad you are not on fire < 1380674427 424922 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So am I < 1380674444 271017 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a different block, I think < 1380674458 330971 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure < 1380674469 761142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here I assume that if you were on fire, you'd deal with that problem before getting on IRC) < 1380674585 816271 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if I was on fire I'd log in to IRC and say something like "help im on fire what do") < 1380674612 955528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think you can; you can't make a pinball game if there is no ball, or no pin for the ball to bounce against (well, some have no pins but there are still walls to bounce against) < 1380674622 63456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh apparently flipperless pinball was a thing before the flippers were invented < 1380674642 707747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes in a movie theatre once I have played a pinball game with no pins; it was the one to win gum balls < 1380674670 480074 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes and sometimes it is still being played, especially on the computer, I think, flipperless pinball games are being made < 1380674731 335812 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few people have tried to make flipperless pinball games just by removing the flippers from a flippered game, although that has bad results; best is to design the table layout to work with flipperless. < 1380674745 528750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the flippers are an improvement < 1380674791 44173 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: W ell, kind of, yes you can make a lot of flippered pinball games, which is an improvement, although pinball games can be made that work just fine without any flippers. < 1380674792 559687 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weren't flippers added to get around gambling laws? < 1380674819 6732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I read somewhere that playing more than one ball for a single coin was added to get around gambling laws, but not flippers. < 1380674875 111440 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flippers makes more sense as a workaround for gambling laws < 1380674882 381140 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't mean it's true ofc < 1380674883 204411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the law? < 1380674899 429001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even just today I play a flipperless pinball game that actually does have one flipper, although the player has no direct control over it; it flips whenever one of two bumpers are hit (these bumpers are close enough that there is a reasonable chance that the flipper will hit the ball if it does that) < 1380674950 131472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380674968 112983 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The powers that be are on to zzo < 1380674991 772785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently peer is online right now, under a different nick < 1380675002 114532 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380675007 954839 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they're fed up of people asking them to stop resetting their connection < 1380675023 791252 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops there was some connection error; if you replied then please reply again. < 1380675062 917404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were discussing the connection error < 1380675156 552778 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know how to install .fon fonts in Ubuntu? < 1380675207 249200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many modern flipperless games I have played on computer omit the tilt sensor, although some flippered games do too (such as Pokemon Pinball). (I don't think tilt sensor is suitable for the computer game anyways; you have to push a key to nudge and the computer simulation doesn't have to move the table far enough to result a tilt anyways, therefore it shouldn't be needed.) < 1380675218 353139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer du lyver < 1380675257 968159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the peer is coming from inside the house < 1380675301 805070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most computer pinball games just tilt if you nudge too often. Alternatives I have seen are in Spade Cadet, it tilts if you hold down the nudge key for too long instead, and in Knickknack it won't let you nudge more often than once a second. < 1380675325 946977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The nudge key will simply do nothing if you push it too often.) < 1380675370 389672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard from someone once of a pinball table that tilts if you hold down the flipper button for too long, too. < 1380675414 345017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've played one that tilts if you press the flipper buttons too hard < 1380675420 985782 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably people kept doing that and breaking it < 1380675442 42226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, I suppose that would work. < 1380675578 733939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is a computer pinball game needs no tilt penalty; a physical pinball game does need a tilt penalty to prevent lifting or breaking it. < 1380675655 958011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be impressed if a computer pinball game had a real tilt sensor < 1380675680 581164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Maybe such thing can be made using Wii remotes < 1380675711 56035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the accelerometer in a smartphone < 1380675715 712407 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wii pinball, with virtual flippers. < 1380675727 359230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, smartphones would be pretty suited to tilt-sensitive pinball < 1380675755 384844 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even i have a phone game that uses the orientation sensor. < 1380675771 678403 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well you could use two of the buttons as flippers and one as plunger (and one for pause); or make a flipperless game so only the plunger button is needed. < 1380675786 207857 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EFF67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380675788 962267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no, you have two remotes, each of which is a flipper. < 1380675817 372130 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Then how should you nudge? It would make nudging confusing wouldn't it? < 1380675829 741071 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta mooooove your body < 1380675845 472836 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.211 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380675934 953113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon Pinball bonus stages, once the timer expires the flippers will stop working; however you can still nudge. In the Meowth stage, Meowth stops moving and stops throwing money on the board, although any remaining money can still be hit with the ball, so nudging the table to make the ball hit them would help, however the flippers don't work so if the money is too high you probably cannot hit it anymore. < 1380675994 727948 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380676218 682546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer makes some unusual noise do you know how to fix it? < 1380676236 995399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the noise < 1380676300 466660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seem to make the noise while simulating the physics of the pinball game; when it is paused, it doesn't make such noise though. It does make noise in other times too though sometimes < 1380676316 23974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also heard something knocking in the computer. < 1380676382 150874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1380676436 956060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also when listing directory and other stuff; perhaps it is when doing a lot of computations at once, it is making a noise. < 1380676502 60660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also like I said before, sometimes the picture seems to have an imperfect clock rate. < 1380676526 682949 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this have something to do with it too? < 1380676596 698915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anything in a computer even make noise besides the fan? the disks i guess if you're a pleb < 1380676670 629492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the capacitors start to hum / whine < 1380676674 71890 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes the disks make noise but I think it is a different noise < 1380676675 682865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also sometimes they explode < 1380676685 134793 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Why do the capacitors start to hum / whine? < 1380676687 32714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coils too. power supplies definitely make noise < 1380676689 490382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't know < 1380676692 514680 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the cpu makes noise < 1380676698 466782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exciting side channels" < 1380676705 71530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the CPU make noise? < 1380676709 295523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're pushing reasonable amps at 60 Hz then odds are high that something will mechanically vibrate at 60 Hz < 1380676746 277496 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't make these noises yesterday (although the picture had imperfect clock rate yesterday) < 1380676831 729755 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380676855 186123 :CADD!~CADD@12.227.104.109 NICK :Guest56477 < 1380676863 268353 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostriction oh, that's cool. < 1380676991 323126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it is the CPU making noise but I don't know how it would do that. Or at least it has something to do with the CPU; I don't know if it is the CPU doing this or not. < 1380677018 958728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The CPU is Intel Celeron 2.00GHz) < 1380677239 932488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: what's a good naming scheme for lenses onto one or more values, zero or one values, zero or more values <-- isn't the second just Prism < 1380677251 782502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Prism is more than that < 1380677260 935607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you construct!!!!! that's half the point < 1380677286 563449 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :these things are just Lens+ Lens? Lens* < 1380677299 554738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1380677354 475119 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :name them after types of giraffe, then. < 1380677367 479488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAPI < 1380677554 173073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels unappreciated.
< 1380677570 678871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that was pretty good. < 1380677591 832505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380677606 418013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, I've accidentally designed a call-by-name function interface in C < 1380677609 584761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is unexpectedly awesome < 1380677618 190226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that was an awesome pun < 1380677622 701196 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck okapi < 1380677624 107085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise does seem to be when the CPU is doing a lot of things. < 1380677640 230564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, metasepia isn't here < 1380677642 225160 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What call-by-name function interface in C did you design? < 1380677650 245039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes where boily goes < 1380677655 126007 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the library calls into a plugin to ask it to update someting < 1380677662 275213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the plugin has to call back into the library to ask what to update < 1380677679 398805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is how you implement a call-by-name interface in a call-by-value language < 1380677683 638366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only I did it by mistake < 1380677777 22439 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.org has backed up the united states government's web presence. it's the beginning of the end, folks. < 1380677845 433754 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only the real beginning of the end in like two or three weaks < 1380677847 41362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*weeks < 1380677851 916490 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when the US defaults on its loans < 1380677867 239019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no this is much more real than that. < 1380677870 606175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether or not that would completely destroy the world economy, and it's /really worrying/ that I'm not sure < 1380677899 180608 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would defaulting on loans destroy the world economy < 1380677946 345064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: giving a loan to someone creates money out of thin air; the person who loaned it out still has it because the debt is worth value, and the person it was loaned to /also/ has it because they can spend it < 1380677954 552658 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the loan is repaid, everything works out fine < 1380677982 125344 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it isn't, though, some of the created money simply vanishes, and it can take a long time for the financial systems to work out where it vanished from < 1380677992 742880 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the recursive loaning that's going on < 1380678003 781753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, defaulting causes some amount of uncertainty as to the existence of money < 1380678020 264050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a really really large default causes a really really large amount of money to become very uncertain < 1380678035 455409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hard to have a functioning economy in a situation where you can't work out how much anyone actually owns < 1380678042 942916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked and found someone says the power supply is making noise because the CPU is using too much power. < 1380678049 748071 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it mean for the US to default on its loans given that the US also defines/controls the value of the dollar? < 1380678077 925811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone actually believe the US will pay off its debts as it stands? < 1380678101 44627 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the US does pay of its debts, it just issues new ones, right? < 1380678103 161507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: well they could pay them off by just artificially creating that many dollars, but that would cause the value of all the existing dollars to reduce < 1380678108 578430 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if triply imaginary money destroyed the economy i'd be living in a cave rn < 1380678122 332752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in proportion to the ratio between the amount that already existed, and the amount printed < 1380678152 238016 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite possible that if they just didn't pay, the value of the dollar would drop by a similar amount for a similar reason (because not paying, and paying with freshly minted money, is pretty much equivalent) < 1380678209 256496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US's national debt is of a similar value to its entire GDP, meaning that I guess the value of the dollar would approximately halve < 1380678250 541916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that'd have some pretty crazy knock-on effects in the world economy too < 1380678254 274259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess who is making estimates out of thin air < 1380678254 921263 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDP isn't assets though, is it...? < 1380678274 843819 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or money supply, I guess... < 1380678302 128029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: me! < 1380678309 454519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ding ding ding! < 1380678313 292602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not massively good at enonomics < 1380678318 853315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I live with an economist, but it's only microeconomics < 1380678330 873991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I have to make rough guesses < 1380678334 656032 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than actually knowing < 1380678337 434616 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Debt held by the public as a percentage of GDP rose from 34.7% GDP in 2000 to 40.5% in 2008 and 67.7% in 2011." < 1380678360 185370 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 108% if you include states and smaller municipalities' debts. which doesn't make sense here of course. < 1380678361 797017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's more maths than economics < 1380678380 342761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's also above 100% if you include intergovernmental loans, according to Wikipedia < 1380678387 564449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which possibly are relevant here < 1380678425 977510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I moved the computer slightly and the noise is now reduced, although I am not sure if I can still hear it or not. < 1380678432 244768 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, intragovernmental < 1380678432 548785 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"History - See also: United States debt-ceiling crisis of 2011 and United States debt-ceiling crisis of 2013" good article < 1380678533 864476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also apparently many of the US loans have interest rates below inflation < 1380678537 410119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they become smaller over time < 1380678595 694668 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, this is where the Rogoff and Reinhart study was < 1380678597 59672 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good stuff < 1380678665 833956 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, that's the whole reason behind quantitative easing < 1380678669 79888 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380678672 619540 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if I remember right < 1380678681 905761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the government regulates inflation by adjusting the rates on government loans < 1380678692 621794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but recently like a few years back those rates reached... 0% < 1380678696 195703 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inflation was still too low < 1380678712 136358 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they had the fed start buying its own loans to try to get inflation to go up < 1380678720 842631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking forward to the extension of interest rates into the imaginary axis. < 1380678728 922923 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of the only thing they can do since you can't really go below zero? < 1380678870 152253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise is still there, although it is reduced a bit from before. < 1380678905 848226 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, continuously compounded interest is an exponential function, isn't it. with an imaginary rate would you spiral outwards < 1380679002 864231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exponential with imaginary rate ~= sine or cosine < 1380679059 631955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1380679062 654720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e^(a+ib) = e^a * (cos b + i sin b) < 1380679071 955036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's more rotatey than a sine or cosine < 1380679076 480008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has both real and imaginary components < 1380679109 530406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, the imaginary component causes cyclic behavior, not growth. < 1380679204 414320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380679225 453195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the complex exponential function is one of the few four-dimensional objects that it'd be really useful to be able to visualise < 1380679261 594004 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'm just actually this dumb, but shouldn't it grow as the real part grows. < 1380679269 231155 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can too little inflation be bad? < 1380679274 431220 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380679318 184044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, but that's caused by the real component, not the imaginary one < 1380679328 286696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: negative inflation is normally considered to be a total disaster < 1380679334 159995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although too much positive inflation is also bad < 1380679356 133813 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative inflation = depression? < 1380679363 127130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :deflation < 1380679415 508491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when inflation is negative, money gets worth more over time, so no one has an incentive to use more than absolutely necessary < 1380679437 884472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which hurts investment and productivity < 1380679483 117171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the main criticisms against bitcoin < 1380679492 980772 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not literally print money during deflation? Doesn't printing money increase inflation? < 1380679497 874947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it seems designed for it to be a bad idea for anyone to ever spend it < 1380679505 166964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah, that's one possible way to fix deflation < 1380679506 536455 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: like the pizza? < 1380679522 820906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably quite a common one in practice, too < 1380679536 391212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the thing about economics is, changing anything has all sorts of knock-on effects < 1380679546 212982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why I'm so against the Euro (whilst mostly being a fan of the EU) < 1380679564 968825 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pegging countries' currencies to each other means that there are fewer dials you can adjust to try to fix a broken economy < 1380679565 114502 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're worried about nonspecific effects from any change? < 1380679568 627001 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380679577 745329 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good i was going to stare at you. < 1380679959 649764 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380679979 86017 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380680087 86651 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are traditional turtle graphics able to find where they are? < 1380680099 35055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: not as far as I know < 1380680115 947061 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so I can't rant about Racket's turtle graphics sucking < 1380680851 271479 :Tefaj!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet NICK :Jafet < 1380680948 875249 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380681114 101204 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that part of the point? so you have to plan everything in advance? < 1380681745 907998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a point? < 1380681794 922688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's under the turtle < 1380681795 68011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, it's for education. < 1380681798 452730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, Racket's doesn't have varying pen sizes < 1380682445 719381 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah this code is old < 1380682446 293146 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(module value-turtles mzscheme < 1380682848 173726 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380682998 164764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, C correctness question: is it legal to compare NULL to a pointer to deallocated data? < 1380683021 559919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for equality < 1380683554 165557 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380683581 138757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no http://c-faq.com/malloc/ptrafterfree.html < 1380683586 83247 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried reducing the DRAM speed to see if that helps somehow; at least the video isn't wrong again (except in the BIOS configuration menu; it is still wrong during that) < 1380683606 390307 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The noise seems to be gone too < 1380683618 792738 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: bleh < 1380683634 673957 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'll fix this later < 1380683642 42617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unlikely to be a problem in any sane implementation < 1380683663 579458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The listed temperature in the BIOS menu was below 60 C (which is what the setting for the shutdown temperature is) < 1380684030 314758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actualy, I'll fix it via converting all copies of that pointer to a pointer to static memory just before the free < 1380684036 696389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from the copy I'm actually freeing < 1380684068 62111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, here's a stupid bit of API design for oyu < 1380684069 539320 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1380684075 131313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpng requires the use of setjmp to avoid errors < 1380684089 336390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1380684097 433789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also requires you to free its structures via a function which takes a pointer to a pointer to its structures as an argument < 1380684121 397256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if I want to free a png_ptr, I call something along the lines of png_free(&png_ptr), although the actual function has more arguments < 1380684155 205644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, if my png_ptr is stack allocated, it has to be volatile because of the setjmp (I want to be able to free it after an error) < 1380684173 112244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, the free function doesn't take a png_struct * volatile * < 1380684180 288421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I have to copy it to another variable just to be able to free it < 1380684317 422491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops now the bad video and noises are starting again < 1380684324 641733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, anyone else fond of 6502: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/textfiles/the-jason-scott-documentary-three-pack/posts/615823 < 1380684430 151661 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and there are system architectures for which such exceptions would be quite natural.)" < 1380684436 290797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I'm curious about < 1380684538 787563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, Kickstarter is available in Canada now. < 1380684818 315947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Is that the "Future Systems" that does that? < 1380684847 763081 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea what architectures that make sense for < 1380685625 29139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :libpng is full of other stupid stuff too, I think; I use LodePNG < 1380685658 420916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :LodePNG is much better < 1380686030 132774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out that the heating vent in this room wasn't completely covered; I covered it now, in case that helps with the computer < 1380686204 628735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that in Verilog the name of a module call can be useful for debugging (and potentially for other purposes too), so in HWPL it is optional (most commands can have a LABEL clause to do this). < 1380686544 568552 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1380686855 437420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I haven't added yet but probably should includes primitive CMOS/NMOS/PMOS transistors (which Verilog includes), and some analog stuff. Is the macros good enough current, you think so? < 1380688664 92534 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380689692 821991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome shikhin < 1380689698 731688 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380690283 909553 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: Who are you today? < 1380690333 354503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Who are you today? < 1380690353 814743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am Aaron Black today, I suppose... < 1380690416 178070 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain < 1380690416 366256 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've turned into giant Swiss leaderhosen-clad dancing yodelers. Talk about unpredictable! < 1380690451 627425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eyes zzo38 and shachaf suspiciously
< 1380692284 769577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think LodePNG is better? < 1380692299 54786 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Than whom? < 1380692363 236869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Joladatihi! < 1380692553 158591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is better than libpng. < 1380692966 364289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Ubuntu, it is not a problem that valgrind segfaulted < 1380692971 68933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doe that if the program it's running segfaults < 1380692973 116681 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*does < 1380692986 519560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is quite likely, because valgrind is the program I run for the purpose of diagnosing segfaults < 1380693900 688068 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's the third welcome I've been given, here. :-) < 1380693907 386699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1380693910 235847 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hmm, probably shikhin. < 1380693911 496373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, :-) < 1380693921 120201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the RFCs for IRC, the hyphen is required < 1380693929 757846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, it's in the only example given of one < 1380693944 76552 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :examples are not normative!! probably < 1380693946 962509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I keep flattening the smileys out of habit < 1380693957 212024 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) looks ugly, too. < 1380693966 757510 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :(especially on a monospace font) < 1380693998 254378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard of stuff that Ubuntu does a bunch of stupid things by default, although you can change these things. < 1380694002 596246 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which RFC? < 1380694021 270853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one about netiquette < 1380694023 687120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked it a while back < 1380694029 931013 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember the number < 1380694033 369872 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha. < 1380694042 645821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a bug in my program just filled the screen with smiley faes < 1380694044 948720 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*faces < 1380694051 506040 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then double-freed when I tried to exit it < 1380694059 392283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the RFC says too use them sparingly. < 1380694061 944034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valgrinding it now to catch the double free < 1380694073 170431 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case it gives a hint as to where the smiley faces are coming from < 1380694075 550547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly ais523. free pointers, not doubles. < 1380694092 542548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that isn't "character 0x01 in code page 437", which is the most likely cause that that particular character was rendered) < 1380694135 165157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a ☺ character? < 1380694139 734807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah < 1380694162 494436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like a strange bug. < 1380694210 718666 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smiley face bug? < 1380694226 583109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the code's accidentally copying from the font rather than where it should be copying from < 1380694240 839526 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wait overnight to send emotional responses to messages. If you have really strong feelings about a subject, indicate it via FLAME ON/OFF enclosures." < 1380694274 732411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that's exactly what it was doing < 1380694347 501150 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That's from the RFC? < 1380694358 404193 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: yep < 1380694432 453102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, now this is pretty < 1380694502 472018 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... there are two issues with this: < 1380694517 94442 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) SDL2 doesn't seem to be rendering to texture, it's just rendering directly to the screen < 1380694527 971691 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b) I probably have the color channels in the wrong order < 1380694547 424475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before, the files I tested it with used only white and transparent < 1380694566 29586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which conveniently, are 0xffffffff and 0x00000000 in the 32bpp RGBA format I'm using < 1380694620 48962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is meant to be opaque and dark gray, but instead it's semitransparent and red < 1380694637 174706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which leads me to conclude that the alpha channel is being interpreted as red < 1380694648 423555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps I have the endianness backwards < 1380694839 193758 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380695445 392753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "qemu -m" just used up 16 gigs of RAM and 9 gigs of swap. < 1380695452 991652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I mean, "qemu -m 512". < 1380695570 331929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, endianness was backwards < 1380696406 794893 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those stupid C1 control characters and they didn't bother to standardize FLAME ON or FLAME OFF :< < 1380700636 758328 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380700863 618391 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380701234 211157 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380701381 866508 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know a way I can get an alert when someone comes online on Facebook? 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ZZZzzz... < 1380731172 397788 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin__ < 1380731251 618658 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380731451 797747 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380731478 375689 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380731742 396332 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380732230 846637 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380732406 631206 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good morning? < 1380732574 302223 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ö́̏R͙͒ ̵̮Ì̆S̘ͨ ̸ͫI̶̺T̼̉ < 1380732704 600921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeek. < 1380733602 222228 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380733742 466989 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin___ < 1380733965 557791 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380734035 888303 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380734047 659679 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380734075 846869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380734144 824452 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380734423 100004 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380734498 52969 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380734839 895971 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380735089 729973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380735288 139583 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380735401 729419 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380735706 114818 :CorMeumLucidum!~CorMeumLu@ip-64-139-3-220.sjc.megapath.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380735850 705291 :CorMeumLucidum!~CorMeumLu@ip-64-139-3-220.sjc.megapath.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1380735860 206585 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome CorMeumLucidum < 1380735862 553712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :CorMeumLucidum: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380735898 906718 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hoping for a MEANWHILE IN R/BITCOIN update today < 1380735981 430060 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380735993 61516 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380736017 841238 :CorMeumLucidum!~CorMeumLu@ip-64-139-3-220.sjc.megapath.net PART :#esoteric < 1380736128 735607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1380736662 179299 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380736956 466975 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380737241 400395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380737312 390496 :shikhin___!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380737316 238087 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, already see somebody saying that a 25% drop in value is normal and it'll bounce back < 1380737323 654938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked inside the computer and I see no damaged capacitors. I vacuumed it inside in case it helps, but I don't know if it does. I still have problems with bad video, and something inside the computer is clicking. < 1380737340 347320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, a 25% drop in value doesn't sound that abnormal for bitcoin. < 1380737352 543600 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why it's funny, yeah < 1380737355 617554 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :healthy and natural < 1380737410 295217 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the important thing here is, it's going to be like a billion times harder for me to get #drugz w/o accidentally getting kmc arrested now < 1380737417 719199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nlb08/ross_ulbricht_was_sloppy_and_outted_himself/ccjmvf4?context=1 this guy was not the smartest illegal drugs site operator ever < 1380737440 108978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, "hypothetically". < 1380737479 926144 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that «a/k/a "Dread Pirate Roberts"» is in official documents. < 1380737514 126174 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, he hired the hitman to kill someone who'd done a SQL injection? that's some cyberpunk shit < 1380737539 265296 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the pictures in this thing < 1380737551 956706 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exhibits A & B < 1380737592 117776 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1nl5ct/silk_road_seized_by_the_feds/ccjn1kr this is so weird < 1380737631 921353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know what is wrong with thsi computer? < 1380737707 725131 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wat < 1380737789 855253 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gonna be great when we see criminal incompetence all laid out like this since it's the future and all < 1380737808 771 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh, did the guy actually get murdered < 1380737870 911082 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: clicking suggests one of the moving parts is brushing up against something. that'd mean fans or spinning discs, i guess? < 1380737920 368264 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad video could be because of a bunch of things. is the monitor okay? is the video card okay? are the cables okay? are you okay? < 1380737934 285070 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm okay < 1380737940 444613 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well it doesn't seem like the person who allegedly murdered them would have any reason to do it for the price given, assuming that comment is accurate < 1380737945 331188 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they just like killing people. < 1380737965 358737 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe they do just like killing people! i dont' "know" the "criminal" "mindset" < 1380737977 31140 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the bitcriminal < 1380738001 260929 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cyberpunk reality masterminded by children < 1380738036 863630 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this will all turn out to be a synydyne ARG. < 1380738100 513315 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://media.tumblr.com/c907dd90564b1d759d746bd6a8c559fe/tumblr_inline_mu0qrxfYYQ1qdjjgt.png on a happier note, the government shutdown is going well < 1380738115 952936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: I think I cleaned the fans though; maybe a wire got caught inside though, but I think I moved those out of the way < 1380738121 733150 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380738155 318770 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: … < 1380738202 360059 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380738315 341260 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: \ldots{} < 1380738317 777503 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news, bitcoin is back up to $120 after dropping from $140 to $110 in thirty minutes < 1380738357 683414 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your investments are safe. unless they were in drugs. < 1380738372 291440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, are the wars on terror and drugs halted then? < 1380738375 588660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I found this "HWMonitor" program. Other than the temperature it also lists voltages and fan speeds. I notice that the -12V seems to be wrong; it is at -4 instead of -12 as it should be. < 1380738395 613868 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be p. great for peace on earth etc < 1380738406 276413 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmVQ-tpggyY < 1380738422 5882 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, i don't see people makin stupid $250 sales to try to inflate the price < 1380738438 855267 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lists the "THRM" temperature at 44 C < 1380738454 95829 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy: good stuff in the relateds here < 1380738456 871548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TMPIN2" is at 45 C < 1380738476 696082 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actally it is down to 44 now and sometimes even 43 but these are the max values < 1380738493 696850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TMPIN1" doesn't seem to work; it says 0 C. < 1380738516 651898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "FANIN0" is at 2860 RPM. Is this proper? < 1380738575 263830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hard drive temperature is at 37 C. Is this proper? < 1380738613 394763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have two hard drives in my computer though; perhaps one doesn't have a temperature sensor?) < 1380738731 868622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the power supply is bad because the -12 voltage is at -4. < 1380738752 903680 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I already replaced it once. < 1380738759 70072 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stands far, far away from zzo38's machine
< 1380738775 86931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yells “EVERYTHING IS FINE AND PROPER, AT LEAST FROM HERE!”
< 1380738896 72699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also notice a "Fans PWM" section although all three values are 0%. < 1380739208 130584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it would help to underclock the CPU, although I looked in the BIOS menu and the minimum setting is 100 and that is what it is set to. (The maximum setting is 132. I don't know what units these are in.) < 1380739282 114365 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380739300 10996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I also noticed for several years now that the RTC seems to be slow; it is always behind the correct date/time. < 1380739408 442838 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.233 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380739437 80278 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380739699 774113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you expect putting ice anywhere near the computer to help? < 1380739757 2238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: dry ice. < 1380740343 79010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How could anything get inside the disks? < 1380740354 258962 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't click all the time; only sometimes. < 1380740586 260015 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death#Hard_disk_drives ? < 1380740688 496224 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.109 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380740725 733474 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380740753 48855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380740937 180955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380741706 910915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/02/us-crime-silkroad-raid-idUSBRE9910TR20131002 < 1380741812 89908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :von mises. of course. < 1380741818 387014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380741819 373567 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"During the raid, authorities seized $3.6 million worth of bitcoin" < 1380741864 921958 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You know how there's been reports of X dollars amount of Bitcoins being seized from Silk Road? You can know about 25% of that dollar value" < 1380741904 846255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing about bitcoin is that if everyone collectively refuses to respect a transaction, then they can < 1380741928 163913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they can just pretend it didn't happen < 1380741931 472872 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it's back up to $125/BTC. < 1380741931 777850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah is the FBI going to open an account at MtGox and transfer it out with Dwolla or some shit? < 1380741971 890805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, they /could/; as long as MtGox could find a buyer for the bitcoins the FBI were selling, and they probably could, then it'd work just fine < 1380741973 789021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need it 'cos of the shutdown hurr hurr < 1380742050 906231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1380742054 521495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FBI gotta get paid < 1380742056 296848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> lunch
< 1380742569 669556 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380742774 425794 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they could use coinbase I guess? < 1380742838 283360 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should email them with suggestions < 1380743312 661349 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: coinbase looks very interesting. do you use it? < 1380743330 700748 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I used it like once to dump some of the bitcoins I had left < 1380743335 373474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was really simple and easy < 1380743380 308732 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to use mtgox but then I realized they were requiring some crazy fancy identity verification and stuff and I really didn't want to hassle with that < 1380743391 162899 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I should probably be glad I didn't use them now -_-) < 1380743447 622050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason I didn't mtgox: my identity is my identity. okay with prooving that I am boily, but they are a little bit... overboard with all that. < 1380743503 94443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. all I need now are some shiny bitcoins. < 1380743577 475294 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear there's now an opening for a classic, lucrative market < 1380743678 182682 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ewww, lwip uses the current byte-order of the architecture and byteswap functions < 1380743827 963340 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is still used? < 1380743873 133135 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I use it since some time yesterday... not sure if anyone else does < 1380744055 128698 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380744637 993958 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380744741 633612 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Moral of the SilkRoad bust: Don't ask PHP questions on Stack Overflow" < 1380744764 684144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is that how he got busted? < 1380744780 192663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Did you see the PDF? < 1380744783 286537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380744795 903524 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf < 1380744804 259412 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«in section 43 he post a question on stack overflow, asking "How can I connect to a Tor hidden service using curl in PHP?", using an account made under his name and then a minute later changed it to "frosty"» < 1380744821 546889 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15445285/how-can-i-connect-to-a-tor-hidden-service-using-curl-in-php < 1380744830 439654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg < 1380744847 189458 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the whole worry about parallel construction, but that sounds pretty, wow XD < 1380744908 838575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which page number shachaf < 1380744918 985381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which page what < 1380744957 745717 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :from another answer to frosty, "Congratulations; you helped create the Silk Road :-)" < 1380744960 772114 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet is weird < 1380744964 562560 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh page 30 < 1380744990 521191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, not by the asker of course, he's not /that/ dumb < 1380744992 203371 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the rest of the pdf is also relevant < 1380745334 972474 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit comments on the thing are as redditty as ever. < 1380745928 241018 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Based on my training and experience, I know that criminals seeking to hide their identity online will often use pseudonymous usernames to conceal their identity." < 1380746009 585683 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit, we’re busted. < 1380746017 620547 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well well well. < 1380746026 236210 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: darn, I guess you're safe < 1380746033 34914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not very pseudonymous either < 1380746046 243031 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...when you're not using nicknames like 'Friendship', that is. < 1380746051 454109 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1380746060 110382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or.. RocketSquirrel, was it? < 1380746103 753125 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on my training and experience, I know that I will prefix all my sentences with “Based on my training and experience, I know that”. < 1380746106 848076 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, or did I mix things up now.. probably < 1380746119 271237 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: my thoughts exactly when reading that pdf < 1380746127 401962 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"criminals seeking to hide their identity online will often [hide their identity online]." < 1380746150 310746 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: RocketJSquirrel. < 1380746162 200560 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1380746410 467019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"clog << clog(2.718281828) << endl;" < 1380746474 634445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ can be awesome sometimes < 1380746490 847640 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first clog is from , the second from ) < 1380746498 869062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380746516 17691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :left shift clog by clog of e < 1380746551 510905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more a case of "how do you manage to give two identifiers in the standard library the same name" < 1380746686 47443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they were introduced by C++ and C99 respectively, I think < 1380746693 988636 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe the committees don't talk to each other as much as they should ;P < 1380746710 709810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380746723 288293 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it's not a problem unless the one in is a macro < 1380746737 106236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in C, the first clog doesn't exist, and in C++, it can distinguish < 1380746763 906730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1380746777 968187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of overloading) < 1380746800 667532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be safe they should give the first clog an operator() which calls the other one < 1380746821 571417 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if clog is a function macro it still works, I think? not sure if it portably works of course < 1380746891 344349 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380746932 907353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not if someone puts spaces between it and the parens, I tihnk < 1380746934 372912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*think < 1380746936 101701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure on that though < 1380746947 267368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that's irrelevant < 1380746973 920242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd definitely matter if you produced the second clog as the result of expanding another macro, with some order of sequencing the #defines < 1380747650 726281 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380747735 305342 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380748000 322735 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380748410 664152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380749389 216984 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380749400 253343 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380749421 163946 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I tried to implement the Reidemeister moves in my new language: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Tuesday < 1380749427 750732 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that my new language is pretty hard to work with. < 1380749562 824050 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certain things would be made significantly easier if you could specify that one rule takes priority over another. < 1380749758 633006 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like lambda calculus. You could say that the rule (replace (var X) with (var Y) in (var X)): (var Y); takes precedence over the rule (replace (var X) with (var Y) in (var Z): (var Z);. < 1380749795 207603 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, an unmatched parenthesis. Let me mitigate the damage by closing it now. < 1380749795 975888 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1380749820 653871 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: could you unbalance the parenthesises? < 1380749821 426685 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know lots of lisp stuff. people _love_ it, they're popped and assigned to local variables on the stack then yes, i'm excluding those that use psyntax's module system, < 1380749839 709153 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380749898 132136 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go. Great conversation, everyone. < 1380749905 148999 :tswett!23287666@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.118.102 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380749950 688352 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett hth < 1380749950 870286 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380749976 540877 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett htsetth < 1380749976 686157 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380749982 251971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. missed a w. < 1380750074 273623 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380750964 145823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380751157 233129 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380751238 688668 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have to sing finnish music this term < 1380751277 781224 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ^ < 1380751294 384163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellentä < 1380751357 200909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --finnish 10 # some lyrics < 1380751360 643897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :syytäväsi hapunokkaipa ikutiivissasi reistansa eettävässäännisammasi nostaan oleviä räisinnolleen koulultaan tuttamiassa < 1380751442 366880 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you pronounce kaikki maat te riemuitkaatte? < 1380751464 856179 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently the song is a "psalmin" which I assume is a type of fish) < 1380751500 95784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a psalm. < 1380751502 807437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn psalm < 1380751504 130275 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** "psalm" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" < 1380751504 275494 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psalm < 1380751504 275675 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : n 1: one of the 150 lyrical poems and prayers that comprise the < 1380751506 166962 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Book of Psalms in the Old Testament; said to have been < 1380751508 174432 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : written by David < 1380751510 141480 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2: any sacred song used to praise the deity < 1380751512 150081 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : v 1: sing or celebrate in psalms; "He psalms the works of God" < 1380751514 860783 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380751538 85149 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 'twas a joke ;) < 1380751559 579629 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esoteric 10 < 1380751561 475212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for pronunciation, I'm bad at explainin them but generally you can just map graphemes to phonemes in a straight-forward way. < 1380751561 620415 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: esoteric < 1380751567 615048 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --esolang 10 < 1380751570 40146 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctorylove elogi hcbf bf-pda cat hunter shakespeare ziim sqirrely alaguf < 1380751585 651737 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you pronounce the e? is it "tee" or "tay"? < 1380751615 408189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: http://translate.google.com/#fi/en/kaikki%20maat%20te%20riemuitkaatte and click on the speaker icon -- it's very close. < 1380751628 516857 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like effort :P < 1380751635 296721 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --french 20 # let's see if they are real French words... < 1380751639 93295 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380751639 239289 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :baony cirtungt intes regref yinerissamp hidedio fustants rugiri fraggre doplees promîm pavées dederla expurrida bons lnutz cuis nefîicy andosacrétos holog < 1380751647 719367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's the IPA /e/, or close enough. < 1380751671 806009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mais c'est n'importe quoi! < 1380751672 838829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like the e in 'bed'. < 1380751719 563997 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: il y a deux < 1380751794 349955 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: je vois bien, mais n'empêche que 2/20, c'est pas fort. < 1380751810 358513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --french 20 # let's see if they are REAL French words again... < 1380751813 512302 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :pari pers nar anguait mécommie lous gyt profebruguâ croit rentiput luffice lau provendentem cinquière hoquemen infit ractan les érrent uilepin < 1380751841 180154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: à peine mieux. < 1380751858 755298 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oui, c'est ça < 1380752055 90539 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :je m'insurge! je réclame un vrai dictionnaire! oui à la Domination Mondiale par le Français! < 1380752101 680375 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :verilog why do you not have an expressional cond. come on. come on < 1380752214 940186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bons and les were really words, right? < 1380752304 651069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I confirm «pavées», «bons», «pari», «croit» and «les» are real, common modern French words. < 1380752358 33654 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paved FEM. PLUR., good PLUR., bet, (he) believes, the PLUR.) < 1380752463 266938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :il croit qu'ils sont bons mots < 1380752538 749963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry if I sound pedantic, but: «il croit que ce sont de bons mots.» < 1380752547 774686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1380752586 478443 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you conjugate your verbs better than most francophones. < 1380752599 293007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1380752657 58148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's really annoying to use google translate for french when my browser refuses to accept ´ as a working dead key < 1380752677 664135 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1380752699 480379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i was going to look up érrent < 1380752727 980314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one comes very close to «errent» (they wander). < 1380752765 340283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :on an errand, no doubt < 1380752767 452806 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: j'ai compté «cuis», mais pas «pavées» < 1380752782 201604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: je ne connais pas le cuis. allons google translater la chose! < 1380752796 655107 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAARGH! < 1380752805 631408 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to cook. < 1380752807 683131 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1380752807 846819 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380752835 820480 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380752844 836343 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :la honte... < 1380752862 381124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily cuis des poulets < 1380752875 754768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't try to check that conjugation
< 1380752881 581249 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380752900 863119 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ce sont «pari» et «pavées»? < 1380752944 162961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nearly. third person, so «cuit». < 1380752982 867893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: a bet, and paved, as in paved roads: «routes pavées». < 1380753032 804000 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, merçi! < 1380753039 873238 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dë riën. < 1380753061 281498 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon, avec tout ça, j'ai faim. temps d'aller manger du poisson mort. < 1380753068 297211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: SUSHI! < 1380753070 708857 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380753080 246740 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, zut < 1380753120 576444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :poison du mort < 1380753169 724280 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :il á parti avant que j'aie eu l'opportunité de se dire «Est-çe que tu va cuire le poisson?» < 1380754798 565688 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380755498 591311 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380755827 449147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380755829 581320 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :796) the other day I bought a recycling can from amazon it came in a cardboard box i took the can out of the box, broke down the box, and put it in the can it was amazing < 1380755845 324116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380755846 934395 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :49) Porn. There, see? < 1380755852 981716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380755855 124247 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380755856 840220 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :736) A lot of things happened; not only me, but also you < 1380755864 137376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380755894 621403 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is zzo38 run by syndyne < 1380755971 665395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380755973 433070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1049) i think delivery sushi is one of those habits that can rapidly consume all of one's money like cocaine < 1380755979 135145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380755981 83487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :531) elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. < 1380755987 704037 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`delquote 531 < 1380755994 104469 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​*poof* elliott: GHC bug? Come on, it's the parentheses. The more parentheses you add, the closer it is to LISP, and therefore the more dynamically-typed. < 1380756125 404536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380756158 172198 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380756175 335004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380756176 644582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :582) http://i.imgur.com/dosYw.png WELCOME TO FUCKING STEELROMANCED < 1380756188 418679 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1380756188 860581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what the hell was wrong with that quote, are you trying to make a squeaky clean image on the internet or something < 1380756189 708862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :266) Ohheywait, I can make it a raytracer instead of a photon tracer so long as I run time backwards. < 1380756198 43340 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not good? < 1380756203 90865 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just pointless and stupid. < 1380756227 322632 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my quotes are better than that quote, and my quotes are the bottom of the barrel. there you have it < 1380756237 830729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: O KAY < 1380756245 882375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't meet whatever quality standards the quote database ought to have. < 1380756280 715686 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.143 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380756304 222784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm surprised all my DF ones have survived the culls < 1380756312 481618 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just seen someone run past me in Sailor Moon cosplay (I think) with a Pikachu backpack] < 1380756332 708300 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :at... twenty past twelve? < 1380756363 468292 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the witching hour < 1380756438 390008 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, she (or possibly he) was leaving university accommodation < 1380756463 531976 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :some late-night sailor moon cosplay < 1380756495 653417 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe she was at a party or larp type thing with friends? < 1380756510 6651 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :larping at midnight??? on wednesday???? < 1380756513 324443 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't add up! < 1380756547 385823 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay my college had midnight larp type things but that was on friday or saturday. < 1380756579 323053 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :midnight larp just sounds hilarious < 1380756586 452134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you're being all furtive and mystic about it < 1380756599 474147 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure we were warned about midnight larping by jack chick. < 1380756628 472174 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually people running around the main lecture complex with duct-tape daggers < 1380756704 122751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that just sounds like a recipe for unpleasant misunderstandings < 1380756734 360745 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pleasant knifeterstandings < 1380756741 384909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mit.edu/~assassin/ < 1380756770 232274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we played Capture the Flag using the steam tunnels, does that count as LARP < 1380756786 206761 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends. did you pretend to have fur? < 1380756801 344290 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think that thing was very larpy. I knew someone who did actual larp though, she had a lot of fun with it) < 1380756839 364567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: larp != furry < 1380756883 402107 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380756961 464818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intersection is probably non-empty, but they are entirely orthogonal concepts. < 1380756967 464821 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380756973 698836 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1380756974 203180 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380756981 138488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric Bike :yes. < 1380756986 627932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1380756986 638268 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380757124 724852 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.143 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't bear bears < 1380758168 596776 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EFF2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380758189 651564 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380758228 325843 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380758228 701841 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380758280 784097 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380758281 647747 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1380758318 433787 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, protip: /cs kick #esoteric < 1380758333 453567 :azaq231!~derivecto@p5B3EFF2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380758349 887167 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380758445 213609 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.143 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380758502 859987 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380758698 459499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: nope < 1380759272 420212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380759815 207631 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380759992 927171 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380760303 644180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, regarding that see the first graf of http://www.mit.edu/~mitsfs/related-groups.html < 1380760357 314635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So, if you're from somewhere else and were looking for all the weirdos, here are the places you might have thought would all be the same as each other and us" < 1380760366 414764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a beautiful sentence < 1380760377 654521 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand @_@ < 1380760423 627371 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380760441 528270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to the website of the MIT Anime Club. We are a non-profit MIT student organization dedicated to increasing the awareness of anime, or Japanese animation, in the MIT community." < 1380760451 32274 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"have you accepted anime into your life as your saviour yet?" < 1380760491 975220 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380760522 71276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{awareness} < 1380760522 979919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see, no furries at all! < 1380760540 687607 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :larping and anime are totally distinct oerjan < 1380760541 443598 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1380760565 909201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pls join my pagan sci-fi anime larp < 1380760574 100583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :slash linux user group < 1380760620 919983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sense that trondheim's gamers club may have been unusually light on the paganism. < 1380760638 137211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame, isn't scandinavia one of the best places for paganism < 1380760653 423909 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's good access to nature < 1380760659 770831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good access to vikings < 1380760702 987181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I spent the winter on the verge of a total breakdown while living in Norway / I felt the darkness of the black metal bands" < 1380760719 656164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But being such fawn of a man I didn't burn down any old churches / Just slept way too much" < 1380760842 926350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the winter does tend to do that to weak people < 1380761175 61438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you're high school students looking to start a club, you may find this Parents' guide to anime helpful when arguing that there are anime which can be shown on campus without inundating the school administration with calls from irate parents ranting about the school showing violent animated Japanese pornography." < 1380761201 749572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk to your parents about anime before someone else does < 1380761250 461788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i want to `addquote that but it doesn't work without all of elliott's quote included < 1380761286 350546 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk to your children about anime. < 1380761286 525604 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders at notions of anime = porn
< 1380761290 742967 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In an interesting work-around, Levison complied the next day by turning over the private SSL keys as an 11 page printout in 4-point type" < 1380761498 397918 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can see a copy of the printout, awesome < 1380762055 869346 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380764507 195685 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380764527 701033 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380764617 466637 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wut? < 1380764901 379152 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380765000 373020 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380765253 834399 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380765379 849633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380767190 207540 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380767361 499954 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380767371 969883 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.plt files are encoded with base64 after being gzipped < 1380767372 883836 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1380767419 60338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can email them duh < 1380767699 918364 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS BORN TO GET WILD < 1380767858 218179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly people < 1380767865 154556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :base64 them first and then gzip < 1380767979 305746 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The file format specifies that the file contains some procedures to run (to provide various data) < 1380767989 561920 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea if those procedures are run in a sandbox or not < 1380768028 157349 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380768030 341784 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380768290 792814 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380768331 18622 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380769720 421782 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hover.ie/ < 1380769757 789773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm glad they put in that warning that this will fuck my computer. < 1380770001 858733 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380770028 478944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have webgl < 1380770031 992322 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But the real treat is hidden a little deeper. If you type "bambi"—the original game's original code-name—on the start screen, it'll shoot you back into retro 1995 mode which replicates the original game, complete with fake desktop, and fake social media applications with fake installers. It's actually pretty rad." < 1380770032 786601 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1380770114 377165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah < 1380770115 320292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hover < 1380770188 166385 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think multiplayer lets you choose who to play with :( < 1380770191 455433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have the weezer video too < 1380770209 175305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just a still of it :/ < 1380770277 995516 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4 < 1380770353 44766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380770794 444629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tk is counterculture < 1380770842 15422 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm? < 1380770857 205910 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is lexical scoping culture? < 1380770873 888735 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1380770919 722829 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380770937 876648 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380771526 237180 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380774266 688340 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380777164 9163 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380777827 564496 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: People in ##typetheory were asking questions about linear logic that I bet you'd know the answers to. < 1380778057 423645 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi esoteric ppl < 1380778250 363517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome adu < 1380778253 433182 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1380778269 609571 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1380778273 376039 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi HackEgo < 1380778279 84442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :greets to a fellow three character nick person < 1380778293 965921 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more than that < 1380778299 604871 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bio person < 1380778305 456057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you a bicycle? < 1380778313 135515 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to an auto-electro-person < 1380778335 639966 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 people < 1380778382 512827 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fyi < 1380778392 704811 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite language is Funge-98 < 1380778404 314319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I =1 people < 1380778409 633458 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that means anything, then you know I'm not a bot < 1380778416 663224 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: AMEN < 1380778436 607302 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1380778436 789904 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 < 1380778439 724145 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no proof of anything. < 1380778479 487284 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1380778964 563629 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did I see the name adu before? < 1380778968 243555 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, #tcl I think < 1380778983 54837 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, #racket < 1380778987 559407 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I _just_ checked too < 1380779024 483283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog [<]adu < 1380779055 475406 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380779069 198861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not here < 1380779086 611624 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially here < 1380779089 126711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell < 1380779150 612402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog [<]adu < 1380779158 330057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to be sure. < 1380779162 958031 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-12-05.txt:15:50:51: after, meaning smaller? < 1380779179 757635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: stop silently timing out thx < 1380779205 191133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did think you looked familiar < 1380779288 558365 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan HackEgo < 1380779722 32194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: hi and bye < 1380780965 493480 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-15-105.washdc.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1380781721 542860 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1380782139 265026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's your favourite language? < 1380782139 612033 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well i need to make < 1380782176 766647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Okay, well, remember to write a wiki entry about it when it's done. < 1380782177 260727 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: there are no pencils within reach that you might want to add variables and the like? it seems that thing is < 1380782197 16424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what fungot?? < 1380782197 525119 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: anything interesting happened here the last weeks? i'm insulted! :p) then performed operations on it, < 1380782289 192366 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just is. < 1380782323 290607 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it? < 1380782323 880072 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: okay. parachute with the fluffy parachutey bits right? what does that tell you about it shortly after first coming in here, otherwise. < 1380782362 109422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whu, are parachutes fluffy? < 1380782370 63148 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think you're drunk < 1380782370 251711 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i used it a bit, too. < 1380782384 118584 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1380782392 352655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is """it""" < 1380782396 766293 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a drugz expert < 1380782407 693614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1380782476 377571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a lot of drugz and then you finish all the good ones do you only have the dregz left?? < 1380782492 704520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm < 1380782510 805050 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did fungot use < 1380782511 94523 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: error in cdar: expected type number, got ' output-port'. try again. < 1380782516 809269 :ski!~md9slj@t-2020-05.studat.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf : mhm .. < 1380782581 265629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did fungot say? < 1380782581 487394 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. < 1380782585 27427 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380782605 68732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:39 fungot: I think you're drunk < 1380782605 270123 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:39 FireFly: i used it a bit, too. < 1380782605 418181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: s/ indenting/ fnord/ 205/ collects") and " fnord", < 1380782605 712056 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eew. you don't say. is it documented?? < 1380782621 211868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote what did fungot say? kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. < 1380782621 424821 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: some esolang? :) what implementation do you prefer < 1380782628 685667 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1114) what did fungot say? kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. < 1380782630 929236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I think in context it would have to be alcohol < 1380782640 245633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why "too" < 1380782650 498546 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like "it" is another kind of drugz < 1380782656 656667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe implying that FireFly was also drunk < 1380782703 790007 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you said a sentence with "FireFly" in it i expected an immediate response < 1380782708 904353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me 2 < 1380782739 572787 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :from FireFly < 1380782743 530441 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot-style < 1380782744 9884 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: is wright's softscheme available somewhere? :) imagine if the imagination of the syntax for them sane? i don't udnerstand why it's called that, yes < 1380782816 21743 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1380782819 932147 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotfly < 1380782820 84304 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: coded that already < 1380782826 173035 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh-huh < 1380782859 903388 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mighto not be a bot < 1380782878 72795 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you coded funggo38 < 1380782878 288525 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i'm just not getting this. something happening somewhere? < 1380782908 158690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zhongguo38 < 1380782966 400620 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you fungotta do it < 1380782966 894680 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you need to solve the assignment without too much problem, while someone else could help in the absence of software patents in europe as well and is the closing bracket < 1380783042 328990 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380783171 715691 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who's the closing bracket? < 1380783172 60447 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i'm running into an apparent conflict between ajax.request and magic's handling of json. it < 1380783619 40319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I think the Xen you're in nowadays is affecting your "brain". < 1380783619 489408 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and if there is any somewhat popular os without those. but for further refinement, i'm crippled if i can't find < 1380783911 587885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you virtualized fungot? < 1380783911 829268 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it looks perfectly human and everything. obviously it had something to do < 1380783916 98058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1380783993 351998 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills' < 1380783999 825338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, they mean for your health < 1380784501 595216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was already on a Linux-VServer fakey-server (because it ran on a laptop with a non-PAE Pentium M and Xen dropped support for that in 2008 or so), I just rejiggled some hardware to make that a Xen guest instead. < 1380784632 639265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also Debian dropped Linux-VServer starting from wheezy, and I had bad experiences with OpenVZ when I tried it out earlier.) < 1380784673 561992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bochs or gtfo < 1380784679 584441 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently OpenVZ is also gone, since LXC is the new hotness when it comes to "containers-style" stuff.) < 1380784683 478161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, dosbox < 1380784768 606496 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you want containers you should probably use one of the solaris-derivatives and zones) < 1380784810 272084 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380784814 137347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Would you like to run in, say, ZBefunge in Frotz on DOSBox? (You'd have to port yourself to Befunge-93 first, mind you.) < 1380784814 756824 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ye gads my connection is extremely slow....) fnord, offset fnord ( with no evidence) that the existing oss suck :) < 1380784828 920816 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380784896 246872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ | this space intentionally left right < 1380785513 413998 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380787309 820601 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380788055 890955 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380790240 360629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show source < 1380790240 506201 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98)S < 1380790246 25409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def source ul (https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98)S < 1380790246 175315 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1380790247 383644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^save < 1380790247 746089 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1380790257 258151 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't see why I should have to host that sort of things myself.) < 1380790953 123998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(TIL: fungot is 58.2% Perl, 13.6% Python and 28.2% F#.) < 1380790953 520336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but just entering one would be: fnord .ijke:2,s < 1380792553 935704 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204] < 1380793124 184835 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380793218 711327 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380799698 771812 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380801196 875620 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380804782 115027 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805076 855462 :Taneb!~androirc@nas102-95.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805097 151050 :Taneb!~androirc@nas102-95.york.ac.uk QUIT :Client Quit < 1380805244 876934 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805297 915730 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805389 131063 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805433 578808 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good strange-things-happen-with-the-topic morning! < 1380805566 214569 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380805766 700133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380805779 586752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380805829 794958 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380805841 73076 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380805898 775793 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1380806678 678922 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380806745 750579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1380807297 251301 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick < 1380807302 791498 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380807801 133427 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380807816 624779 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1380808201 587246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380808951 596981 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380809329 371000 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380809593 668188 :alone!~dev@78.179.164.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380809745 173715 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380809853 643655 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1380809981 943039 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380810065 217260 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380810886 220071 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1380810886 365618 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1380811562 290514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (()) < 1380811605 54694 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380811809 707024 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1380812455 538004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380812642 232110 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380812906 289394 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380813210 137049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380813272 257239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380814359 543205 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380814505 302689 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1380814510 446165 :nooodl_!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1380815390 798564 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380816201 642326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380816358 618674 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380816364 240819 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380816366 176252 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380816397 98741 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, all you people! < 1380816442 485359 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi, JWinslow23 < 1380816683 795558 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I'm stuck on ideas for esolangs. Can you help? < 1380816699 184947 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the creator of Drive-In Window, Pancake Stack, and Ecstatic. < 1380816753 586138 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380816781 463009 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mystery of the midnight Moon hasn't been solved yet < 1380816802 194499 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does that mean? < 1380816821 494028 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means I saw a Sailor Moon cosplayer at half past midnight last night < 1380816842 184077 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mysterious < 1380816917 427930 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380817287 711027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380817442 516200 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I gotta go. Only got an hour and a half for lunch. < 1380817446 123139 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380817616 874738 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380818142 826502 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380818672 372105 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380818692 648634 :Merengil!~IceChat77@93.1.44.158 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380818834 663710 :Merengil!~IceChat77@93.1.44.158 QUIT :Quit: Some folks are wise, and some otherwise. < 1380819076 583785 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380819317 489729 :Merengil!~IceChat77@158.44.1.93.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380819376 624881 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380819397 960222 :Merengil!~IceChat77@158.44.1.93.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1380819628 231006 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380819680 247671 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380819694 168666 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380819951 846989 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380820016 707485 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380821720 398282 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Uguubee111116 < 1380821726 667385 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13Uguube11e111116: Welcome to the international h04ub for esot10eric prog04ramming langu14age de12sign and10 deploymen13t! For more information, check out ou02r03 wiki14:03 http://esolangs.13org/wiki10/M12ain04_Page13. (Fo02r the other 06kind of es03oterica, 12try #esote06r12ic 10on03 i09rc.dal.net.) < 1380821753 230712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you at a convention? < 1380821875 171663 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, no < 1380821891 270467 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was entering my accommodation complex < 1380821898 43998 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1380821979 736178 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380823578 478820 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380824030 615070 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to this in a couple of weeks http://www.nationalcraftanddesign.org.uk/exhibitions/Next%20Main%20Gallery%20Exhibition < 1380824041 811781 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Revolution in the Bedroom, War in the Playground: Video Gaming 1979-1989" < 1380824212 718971 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380824382 564106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :retrogaming is the way of the future! < 1380824479 880851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Have you ever been a "revolution in the bedroom", if you know what I mean? < 1380824480 429636 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm _also_ saying that you can't make an impact on static reasoning that we do not need to be < 1380824533 117778 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to try static reasoning next time I'm with my SO. < 1380824814 727118 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380825474 162389 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380825585 305747 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380825740 846428 :Nisstyre-laptop!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380825782 121494 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380825922 532249 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380826171 724783 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380826585 794491 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380826859 47931 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380827078 752824 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380827345 63058 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380827493 844077 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380827750 155311 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1380827990 705770 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380828095 897363 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380828668 849976 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380829098 909800 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380829551 447340 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380829703 293767 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380829739 458616 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380829915 266672 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1380830289 138088 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380830449 336350 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380831044 922056 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380833288 796646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bazaar is crap. < 1380833649 504831 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a (probably non-D) VCS with a command line tool called "cthdrl" already? < 1380833722 112163 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There does not seem to be. A shame. < 1380834189 599881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that related to LoL? < 1380834197 240569 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380834383 967961 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back! < 1380834408 410682 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell o < 1380834413 535833 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++. < 1380834487 193222 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's brainf*** for Hello < 1380834499 320242 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1380834499 465799 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1380834500 868409 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1380834505 938704 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1380834508 8824 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1380834508 993624 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1380834513 345131 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello < 1380834518 788101 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​61 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>. [362] < 1380834530 882571 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you beat egobot, good job < 1380834546 49288 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually no < 1380834569 41539 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot seems to print something else < 1380834571 748155 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a newline i guess < 1380834586 392386 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would have at least 4 chars less without that < 1380834592 760894 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+><<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>. < 1380834592 906414 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1380834598 853820 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a . < 1380834604 207806 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still 4 chars < 1380834607 494134 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++. < 1380834607 639591 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1380834613 340130 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1380834621 217080 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1380834637 642242 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because periods suck < 1380834639 193602 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the offest thing is >< of egobot < 1380834643 799847 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*oddest < 1380834661 347376 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf_txtgen is very heuristic i guess < 1380834681 482897 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a language called Ecstatic. The program to echo input to output is "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". < 1380834682 456562 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could at least filter obvious nops < 1380834697 521299 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: nice < 1380834725 166030 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It converts BF commands to a string of !s. That BF program was ",." < 1380834744 945113 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it do that? < 1380834750 302095 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has an esolangs.org wiki page. < 1380834805 637061 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1380834895 386231 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. It takes 4,611,686,021,782,831,112 exclamation points to print "Hello". I wonder what a Hello World program would be? < 1380834937 633728 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be that hard to find out, just takes a while to calculate < 1380835094 3186 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have yet to find out what binary to decimal converter to use. It has to handle at least 334 binary digits! < 1380835101 307455 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the program is like, unary-coded? < 1380835117 426534 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but instead of "0", "!" is used. < 1380835128 410477 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like binary program -> number X -> X !s < 1380835133 404183 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: shouldn't matter < 1380835135 414018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use ! and ¡ < 1380835137 405387 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, that's some nice exponential code size inflation :P < 1380835141 608206 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it probably compresses pretty well. < 1380835143 143553 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1380835157 686438 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are languages which have arbitrary large integers < 1380835160 617286 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ruby < 1380835174 998923 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that'd be much shorter, indeed < 1380835176 499672 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only there was a possible way to represent these programs in an actual form. < 1380835209 843752 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you could "compress" the exclamation points, representing the number of exclamation points in some more compact fashion < 1380835214 990633 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: did you write an interpreter? < 1380835247 312799 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what would need at least a second character < 1380835256 31018 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. I have only ever programmed in esolangs (and a bit of Batch), and I have no idea how in an esolang (or Batch). < 1380835267 348778 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for(uint64_t i = 0; i < 4611686021782831112ULL; i++) putc('! < 1380835269 375633 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'); ? < 1380835269 598204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: GHC's Integer actually has a max of 2^(64*2^64) or so, what bullshit < 1380835295 12590 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that part of GMP < 1380835295 676177 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's a lot of chars < 1380835307 307394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure Bike < 1380835312 789716 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: What was that? < 1380835317 447979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gibraltar mounted police < 1380835324 89379 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program is like, really really exclaiming itself. or something. I don't know < 1380835328 302025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: there's something beautiful about writing a program like that, with the stop condition, as if you expect to actually run it to termination < 1380835336 752990 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1380835345 330974 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you seen http://www.jwz.org/blog/2008/03/most-positive-bignum/? < 1380835384 730387 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: About using ! and ¡, that is a good idea! that way we won't have the leading 1 and we don't have to convert to decimal! < 1380835466 819195 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone seen my language, Pancake Stack? Or Drive-in Window? < 1380835473 505375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow 7 tag bits on a 32-bit word o_O < 1380835502 554827 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the idea for Drive-in Window last year, thanks for asking. < 1380835502 798875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But it's a zero that consumes 524 KB, and is not = to 0. " haha < 1380835547 455817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pours one out for the LISP Machines
< 1380835551 161761 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: for(int n = 2;;n++){int m = n;while(m != 1) {m = (m%2)?m/2:m*3+1;if(m == n) return 0;}} // how about something like this? XD well okay I guess it'll eventually overflow < 1380835609 639130 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: great link < 1380835616 189044 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: technically it's not actually possible to get an unbounded amount of storage with something that strictly conforms to the C specification, without cheating by using filesystem APIs and stuff ;_; < 1380835617 270917 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lucky for me, I don't speak in a LISP < 1380835657 304806 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may not be aware of it but you're speaking in a REPL! < 1380835672 479391 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1380835685 752853 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: because sizeof measures the size of types, including pointers, in bytes, and CHAR_BIT has to be a finite integer, so every type has a finite size, so memory has to be finite (because you can get pointers to it). so you actually can't write a perfect Collatz program or whatever < 1380835700 781423 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: couldn't you, like, represent a number as a tree? < 1380835708 820573 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like, it could go as deep as you wanted < 1380835716 377951 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does REPL stand for Real Esoteric Programming Language? < 1380835722 630062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I think you can't take pointers to register variables or something? and the call stack isn't necessarily finite, but you can only access that in a stack discipline, so it still isn't enough for arbitrary storage < 1380835723 237580 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I guess you'd run out of pointer space or something ^^; < 1380835729 667679 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380835732 9649 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could stand for that < 1380835736 582986 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right gosh I remember that conversation now < 1380835738 601616 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was really silly < 1380835742 97873 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah... the problem is you have to use pointers, and the standard requires them to be finite < 1380835748 112432 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/programs.html TCALC is cool. < 1380835767 404794 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and in C) < 1380835771 883750 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not infinite though. < 1380835772 427363 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's um. .w < 1380835786 896346 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just funny that like, an obscure corner kinda thing like sizeof interacts with requiring you to define a constant elsewhere and ends up magically requiring you to have finite storage < 1380835790 785657 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :knuth's literate programming thing < 1380835801 545766 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I researched. It's read-evaluate-print-loop. < 1380835804 672740 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: .w is C code with a lot of TeX around it < 1380835807 24433 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linuxes sometimes have weave and tangle < 1380835808 831001 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid acronym! < 1380835811 210883 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh < 1380835813 494005 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and um, macros. < 1380835817 347117 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, cweave and ctangle. < 1380835839 637927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the @<...@> stuff includes the code defined elsewhere with @<...@>= < 1380835844 178434 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------------------------- < 1380835863 684009 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am working an an esolang called BASE-TWO < 1380835873 746492 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pleasedon'tbeabrainfuckderivative < 1380835875 128794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380835889 148827 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could be oerjan < 1380835890 794063 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1380835899 579616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: brainfuck is base 8, so there is hope < 1380835925 3625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1380835928 18562 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: can an esolang be oerjan? < 1380835938 981429 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how about using files? IIRC files could be infinite < 1380835962 317370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UReal Esoteric Programming Language: Sheer Disaster Download < 1380835968 669931 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also how about this being the three thousandth time this being brought up here) < 1380835979 464863 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, but then you're relying on the system more than C < 1380835985 491427 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe there really should be a Sheer Disaster to go with Shear Disaster < 1380836014 448850 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are talking about C's computability class? < 1380836030 746103 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it can have arbitrarily sized bignums, at least < 1380836038 310970 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: isn't stdio in the C library and defined in the C standard? < 1380836066 109398 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2013/10/important-customer-security-announcement.html "So, Adobe got owned" < 1380836086 86600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess standard C might have enough filesystem API to let you do it? < 1380836091 208595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um you realize "Shear Disaster" is probably a pun on the former, right? < 1380836092 837684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need relative fseek() < 1380836093 693454 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: didn't read the scrollback but it sort of looked like it < 1380836102 552010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ftell() has to be able to fail < 1380836102 806517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: Oh no, not the source code! < 1380836112 906872 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i realize nothing. < 1380836124 307081 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we decided that ftell was allowed to fail < 1380836135 683378 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that the standard said that < 1380836159 268568 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but actually it was a while since I was having this discussion last time < 1380836189 676598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think i have realized that. would you like another kick? < 1380836205 832988 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: don't leave us hanging there < 1380836207 221071 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1380836218 259962 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1380836218 632502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: always with the negativity. < 1380836238 802039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes! I would indeed not like that!" < 1380836239 192705 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the cliffhanger. you were talking about BASE-TWO < 1380836249 271889 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah. It will be a turning tarpit. < 1380836266 527096 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wheel of commands will be +-><[],. < 1380836267 274344 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the sole instructions are 0 and 1? < 1380836271 273708 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap < 1380836275 23217 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactamungus. < 1380836281 22718 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: look at category:brainfuck derivatives or whatever < 1380836281 482645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: much better! < 1380836283 734513 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then never do this again. < 1380836296 605841 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Rotates the wheel in the current direction (initialized to right). < 1380836313 941252 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 Executes the command and reverses direction. < 1380836314 859775 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: if you give me five minutes I could probably link two wiki pages describing that exact language < 1380836323 74394 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK! < 1380836323 777116 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :except maybe with other symbols for 0 and 1 < 1380836325 716935 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck derivatives are boring < 1380836334 894672 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhhhhhhh without the reversing direction though < 1380836350 381605 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, kmc, but I gave away my best two ideas! < 1380836392 975669 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: if you make a brainfuck derivative you'll have to live with what you did for the rest of your life < 1380836397 824328 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me you don't want that! < 1380836413 972001 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1380836436 231418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotating wheel? so a brainfuck derivative turning tarpit? < 1380836451 868600 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, oerjan! < 1380836460 58403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like the words "turning tarpit" < 1380836469 733323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: i expect that still exists already. < 1380836481 964332 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1380836488 364209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i'm pretty sure i've seen it, but my memory is still vague. < 1380836510 607690 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :try something with ' ' for spinning and ! for executing < 1380836532 624103 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay-kay. < 1380836549 726143 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a language being a total asshole in the way that it uses the exact same commands as brainfuck but changes the chars for them < 1380836563 128929 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. <> for [], + and - swapped < 1380836564 963767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone made a meta-brainfuck derivative that has parameters for simulating 90% of the others yet < 1380836573 180261 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so + would do [ and > would do -? < 1380836587 743921 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that, yes < 1380836595 667992 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be pretty hard to write, though < 1380836606 368590 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainbrain ? < 1380836608 781144 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1380836616 649714 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also elliott was faster than me < 1380836630 625553 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no wait this one is a joke < 1380836633 229139 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an actual one < 1380836692 597486 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, something like a function (or interpreters of functions) [Char] -> [Int3]? < 1380836728 793881 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what? Has anybody made a language based off of checkers? < 1380836756 755631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at zzo38
< 1380836762 528305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: most definitely not poulet, I swear. < 1380836782 123590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if he's not here, he would be the one to do such a thing. < 1380836800 164953 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he'd use a board game way more obscure than checkers < 1380836812 424755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :point < 1380836816 761838 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean waving fingers? < 1380836828 868728 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The game is also known as Spellbinder. < 1380836841 747608 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's a pencil-paper game. < 1380836846 640673 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind! < 1380836852 874583 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 1380836853 20272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Most_ever_Brainfuckiest_Fuck_you_Brain_fucker_Fuck < 1380836865 810550 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, Spellbinder, that sounds more zzoic < 1380836867 29851 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blognomic's current dynasty reminds me of spellbinder < 1380836881 486474 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Tictactoe? < 1380836908 264059 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1380836908 628593 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1380836910 12508 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not go? < 1380836932 644726 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen I gotta go. Good to see ya! < 1380836936 177482 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​228 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>--.>++.>--.++++++++.+++++..-------------------.<.>++++++.++++++++.>+.<<.<--.>>..<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.>+++++.-----.<.>++++.<<+..>.>++++++.<<----.>+.-----------------------. [556] < 1380836942 331254 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380836953 700390 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do these numbers mean? < 1380836964 37483 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice piece of code but how can we read it < 1380836982 245735 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>--.>++.>--.++++++++.+++++..-------------------.<.>++++++.++++++++.>+.<<.<--.>>..<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.>+++++.-----.<.>++++.<<+..>.>++++++.<<----.>+.-----------------------. [556] < 1380836994 447103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: hm apart from the pencil-paper part it sounds like something someone in my old gamer's club described once. i suppose you just need pencil and paper to keep track? < 1380836995 444932 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not like that < 1380837074 485320 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: too late < 1380837097 740127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: length of program and number of steps, perhaps? < 1380837114 197028 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1380837121 669741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>--.>++.>--.++++++++.+++++..-------------------.<.>++++++.++++++++.>+.<<.<--.>>..<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.>+++++.-----.<.>++++.<<+..>.>++++++.<<----.>+.-----------------------. < 1380837122 842860 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380837142 212667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: why are you not working < 1380837146 953787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>--.>++.>--.++++++++.+++++..-------------------.<.>++++++.++++++++.>+.<<.<--.>>..<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.>+++++.-----.<.>++++.<<+..>.>++++++.<<----.>+.-----------------------. < 1380837147 99292 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta go. Good to see ya!. < 1380837166 531466 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo hi < 1380837171 497031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1380837171 642235 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't leave! < 1380837171 919657 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1380837172 65517 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: anyways the compiler just needs to be < 1380837179 688282 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1380837180 624177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i think EgoBot is ill < 1380837182 789380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380837213 413398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp bf '+++++++++++++++[>+++++>++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>--.>++.>--.++++++++.+++++..-------------------.<.>++++++.++++++++.>+.<<.<--.>>..<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.>.>+++++.-----.<.>++++.<<+..>.>++++++.<<----.>+.-----------------------.' < 1380837215 389047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gotta go. Good to see ya! < 1380837228 185490 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1380837240 713356 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1380837246 937876 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was kinda obvious < 1380837255 713723 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :since bf_textgen is supposed to do that < 1380837269 433521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo does contain most of EgoBot's esolangs. not sure about the userinterps. < 1380837294 850961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course it doesn't have bfjoust, i think. < 1380837307 360603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust areyouthere < < 1380837319 588717 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for oerjan_areyouthere: 0.0 < 1380837325 394807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh _that_ works. < 1380837373 758526 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust hurr [+>] < 1380837376 603316 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for olsner_hurr: 6.3 < 1380837383 76887 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ìnter ocaml 'print_newline (let () = print_string "Hello, " in print_string "World!")' < 1380837399 63633 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp ocaml 'print_newline (let () = print_string "Hello, " in print_string "World!")' < 1380837400 630923 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec: 4: ibin/ocaml: not found < 1380837413 461120 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good to be true < 1380837424 245920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot never had that afair < 1380837476 134489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interp is for interpreters transfered from EgoBot to HackEgo < 1380837554 315262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory you could install ocaml on HackEgo. < 1380837596 508862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ocaml < 1380837597 954213 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380837602 433149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which ocaml < 1380837603 907276 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380837697 474621 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380837836 134209 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380837929 935006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills' oh, they mean for your health < 1380837934 550858 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1115) BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills' oh, they mean for your health < 1380838140 254983 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380838171 435356 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen, I gave you 5 minutes. What is the esolangs page called? < 1380838185 624436 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :urh < 1380838213 684150 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said the BASE-TWO page would be ready in 5 minutes. You said that 30 minutes ago! < 1380838227 221572 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh, such a slave driver < 1380838230 700000 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Braincrash < 1380838244 208933 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Fiona. He promised. < 1380838291 150322 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got another one but apparently he's not in the turning tarpits category < 1380838297 472822 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tic-tac-toe based, anyone? < 1380838305 979881 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I seem to recall saying "I could" which hardly qualifies as promising < 1380838319 510377 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: a cellular automaton? < 1380838339 948707 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Koen. So, so sorry. < 1380838353 247806 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot stress that enough. < 1380838367 5719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: quite ridiculous that none of us noticed http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=AutoMouse&curid=1235&diff=37443&oldid=30864 before :P < 1380838400 982086 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the spaces gone on by the players would do something. Corners could be output commands, for example. < 1380838412 893356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I facepalmed -_- < 1380838444 326551 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that, but I wasn't logged in. < 1380838449 389724 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was at school. < 1380838470 965454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: well you did good < 1380838508 442747 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! And the site wasn't dead, the Wayback Machine just can't archive it's own crawl pages, and apparently that's what happened. < 1380838573 771164 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, doesn't the edited version link to an older version of the archived page? < 1380838652 573549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i just noticed that. trying to find the newest version now. < 1380838698 596137 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone interested in Tik-Tak-Toe? < 1380838708 834746 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The esolang idea, I mean. < 1380838798 337194 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe do something if the games are a win, loss, or tie, and on what square they won? < 1380838824 77590 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'll do that. < 1380838969 315378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: as a general rule, we prefer to link to the newest web archive version of pages (excepting versions linking to error pages or domain squatters, of course) < 1380838984 887197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although sometimes that takes a bit of searching to find. < 1380838991 354654 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, didn't have time to find that page. < 1380839094 178230 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380839209 314337 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls ibin < 1380839211 711015 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ asm \ axo \ bch \ befunge \ befunge98 \ bf \ bf16 \ bf32 \ bf8 \ bf_txtgen \ boolfuck \ c \ cintercal \ clcintercal \ cxx \ dimensifuck \ forth \ glass \ glypho \ haskell \ k \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ sh \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda \ whirl < 1380839355 862863 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Every day at 2200 GMT, the Ghost of MNG joins the mozilla #developers IRC channel to berate us for going with APNG. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3190427» < 1380839390 207060 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1380839390 536744 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1380839402 170698 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bfjoust < 1380839402 548523 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for bfjoust! < 1380839402 693926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: awesome < 1380839415 530492 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: haha < 1380839487 481801 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose JWinslow23 has been properly `welcome'd? < 1380839501 499114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whichever is the current favourite variation of it < 1380839532 837280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380839543 219143 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer relcome < 1380839573 376559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer rainwords welcome < 1380839584 31499 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an emoclew? < 1380839586 513888 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclew < 1380839589 130231 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(.ten.lad.cri no ciretose# yrt ,aciretose fo dnik rehto eht roF) .egaP_niaM/ikiw/gro.sgnalose//:ptth :ikiw ruo tuo kcehc ,noitamrofni erom roF !tnemyolped dna ngised egaugnal gnimmargorp ciretose rof buh lanoitanretni eht ot emocleW < 1380839595 469942 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an emoclew. < 1380839596 143332 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`emoclaw < 1380839597 655026 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: emoclaw: not found < 1380839627 465403 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: those are too dangerous for HackEgo to provide < 1380839642 196657 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was an emoclaw around the time of the introduction of Grimmargorp < 1380839665 247111 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i want to make raincome its own program, but the name makes me want to make a Reich pun and i've got nothing. ;_; < 1380839719 706169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the reich pun? < 1380839752 268470 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_Gonna_Rain it's gon' come down < 1380839763 71195 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1380839763 216817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380839768 9776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what the word makes me think of < 1380839768 455993 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nyas
< 1380839774 387851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Lymia < 1380839815 34431 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1380839851 439817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'evening < 1380840533 29221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: i wrote an argument about Pancake Stack being turing complete iff values are unbounded. < 1380840552 378696 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are. < 1380840592 751979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: also http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1380840622 113060 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Lymia < 1380840623 601155 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I know what that is. I just don't have a good strategy. < 1380840714 647042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rwelcome Bike < 1380840717 638695 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​6Bike: 4Welcome 7to 8the 9international 2hub 13for 6esoteric 4programming 7language 8design 9and 2deployment! 13For 6more 4information, 7check 8out 9our 2wiki: 13http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. 6(For 4the 7other 8kind 9of 2esoterica, 13try 6#esoteric 4on 7irc.dal.net.) < 1380840735 154064 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1380840756 574462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i'm just saying it already exists. < 1380840757 966990 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sits in elliott's lap :3
< 1380840758 782204 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine < 1380840770 563394 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and it has a boring name. < 1380840816 261441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's not what the word makes me think of <-- i'm with kmc < 1380840836 772564 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone gonna make a new program in Drive-In Window? < 1380840855 584060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust_strategies ;) < 1380840894 686644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray i'm not the only one with a dirty mind (?) < 1380841006 59816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um connecting reich with the nazis makes you dirty now? < 1380841050 125006 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380841053 170194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1380841063 42919 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking about my association with "raincome" not reich... < 1380841066 632155 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kmc was thinking of something else *giggles*) < 1380841074 421738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. i have another association. < 1380841079 735217 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust maybethisonewillwin? (>+>-)*4>([-]+>[-]->)*11 < 1380841082 691476 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for JWinslow23_maybethisonewillwin_: 13.8 < 1380841088 556959 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So low! < 1380841101 268112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv bin/{rwel,oz}come < 1380841105 148408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380841114 717811 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: :3 < 1380841128 507933 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380841185 75775 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1380841185 414950 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1380841201 156568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1380841201 593176 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1380841219 219922 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen An addicting game I play is called Acheivement Unclocked. Play it sometime! < 1380841222 194730 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​730 +++++++++++[>++++++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++<<<<-]>>-.<.>>>-.<<++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.+++.>+.+++++.<-.<++++++.>>.<<------.>++++.>>.<<.------.<-.>++++.>>.<<----------------------------.>>.<<<+++.>>+++.<++++++++++++++++++++++++.<+++++++++.>>>.<---.<<------.>>>.<------.<.+++++++++++..>++.-.>.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++.<-.<----.>++.<+.<+++.>----.>++++++++.<.+++++++++.<--.------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 1380841234 220245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: s/ei/ie/ < 1380841240 186038 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some kind of... bizarre spam? < 1380841241 775799 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 PRIVMSG #esoteric :achievement unlocked got boring fast, thankfully < 1380841252 542780 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not spam. < 1380841257 288057 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.maps toN < 1380841262 603710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the whole universe is a bizarre spam. < 1380841264 896229 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kidding! < 1380841265 68125 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what a spam would say < 1380841273 416558 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are a spam! < 1380841285 956287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yeah, once you run out of the cute 'challenge' ones it's just a dumb slog < 1380841289 914587 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1380841294 518920 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380841344 481085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (SPAM )S((SPAM )(SPAMMITY ))(~:^:S*a~^~*a*~:^):^ < 1380841344 900184 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAM SPAMMITY SPAMMITY SPAM SPAMMITY SPAM SP ...too much output! < 1380841377 671884 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that sequence < 1380841399 616706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same sequence as always < 1380841413 965962 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i guess it's spam once or twice and then spammity once or twice, over and over < 1380841428 944009 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is that the thue-morse sequence < 1380841435 806266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "shit fuck hell damn ass " < 1380841436 404063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :CORRECT < 1380841436 741958 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "shit fuck hell damn ass shit fuck hell damn ass shit fuck hell damn ass sh... < 1380841453 584848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i find your swearing boringly repetitive < 1380841521 341449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lambdabot's swearing............. < 1380841525 570104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (12)S(*a(~:)~*^~):((1)S)~*~((2)S:*)~*:(~:()~)~*^(a(:^)*~a(*()~)~*^~^):^ variation! < 1380841528 413183 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :122112122122112112212112122112112122122112122121121122122112122122112112122121122122112122122112112212112122122112112122112112212112112212211212212112212212112112212211212212112112212112122112112122121122122112122122112112122112112212212112122112112212112112212212112122112112122122112122121121122122121122122112122122112112 ...too much output! < 1380841568 100851 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fuck < 1380841607 281042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not so much a variation as a completely different sequence. < 1380841738 883863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (^^:^^^:^^^^^:^^^^^^:::^^^^^^^^:::^^^:^^^^::^)()~((())~:a~*):a~*~^!(~((!())(!:^(^)*)(!!:^(!^)*))~*^!!^):^(~((()())(:a~*:(*(!^)(:)S)~*~(!*(^)(^)S)~*):a~**((!^)~^!^)(!(^)~^^))~*^( )S!!a:(*)*~(~*)**^~*(()()(!)()(!)(:a~*:(!^(!^((!^)*)(!(^)*))(!^((^)*)(!(^)*)))~*~(!^(!^((!^)*)(!(^)*))(!^((^)*)(!(!^)*)))~*):^)~*^!!!!!!~:^):^ < 1380841741 38 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^:^^^:^^^^^:^^^^^^:::^^^^^^^^:::^^^:^^^^::^ :^^^:^^^:::^^^::::^::^^::::::^::^^:^^^::^:^^ ^^:^^^:^::^^:^:::^^:^^^:::::^^:^^^^^:^:^^^^^ :^^^:^^^:^^^^^::^^^^^:^::::^^^^^:::^^^^^:::: ^^:^^^:^^^:::^:^^:::^^^:::^^:::^::^^:::^:::: ^^^^:^^^:^::^^^^^::^^:^::^^^::^^:^^^::^^:::^ :::^^^:^^^:^^:::^:^^^^^:^^:^:^^^^^:^:^^^::^^ ::^^:^^^: ...too much output! < 1380841823 673829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one only looks right if you have the right setup so the "words" wrap and line up vertically. < 1380841875 888670 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380841893 708494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which happens to work in irssi with 80 columns.) < 1380841908 91750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my irssi setup anyway. < 1380842028 933128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also these are all on the wiki, modulo some tweaking to make them work in irc) < 1380842298 672035 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, a . <-- it's actually a newline which fungot converts to a period < 1380842299 395181 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or that... explicitly. you can debug just a portion of the screen, then do the complex probabilities work for qubit states?) work :) < 1380842334 74850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it didn't on the line ending with ! < 1380842336 95383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i don't think underload does quantum computing very efficiently yet. < 1380842336 444296 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: which i think looks nicer for some things i dislike with plt code using `case-lambda'? you don't know < 1380842398 633440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: no i mean, if you try print a newline from ^bf, fungot prints a period instead. < 1380842399 52067 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: now i type fnord, not for me... except when the file is in one of them is the same < 1380842413 379326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+to < 1380842453 574665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same with some other control characters. < 1380842454 427491 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the question is: why did bt_gentext added a newline there < 1380842480 842919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because EgoBot includes the newline in the text fed to commands. < 1380842541 283711 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: as i said: it didn't on the other line ending with ! < 1380842570 922675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't found that line. < 1380842606 34135 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:48:51 !bf_txtgen I gotta go. Good to see ya! < 1380842729 647070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes it did, when that was run with fungot. with HackEgo it's invisible, though. < 1380842730 24643 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or it doesn't. the macro section uses define-macro... that's all :(. well, if i can provide the whole language, actually < 1380842746 728407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo < 1380842763 708090 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange bot stuff happening here < 1380842826 982255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's simple: EgoBot's !bf_txtgen includes the newline. fungot's ^bf turns newlines into periods on output. HackEgo strips trailing newlines in its output. < 1380842855 814629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, HackEgo turns internal newlines into " \ " < 1380842862 140407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1380842863 976987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1380842871 241013 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380842876 856288 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, "simple" < 1380842905 833904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380842988 866664 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380843000 894968 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Client Quit < 1380843194 442876 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380843363 240726 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380843386 802031 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380843434 176504 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone gonna suggest anything for my Tic-Tac-Toe language? Program form, maybe? < 1380843474 714682 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nim < 1380843502 93079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you could make a bf derivate depending on where the winning line is placed ;p < 1380843536 619702 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the outer border could be some of the bf commands and center a nop? < 1380843544 627500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :each tic you tac on a new toe < 1380843567 21367 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf was that? < 1380843616 129365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an Oerjan Wordplay™ < 1380843651 215718 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woerdjplayn < 1380843658 950037 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You trademarked that? Then I will "strike back! < 1380843679 745247 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :™ < 1380843721 844154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "striking like 'pataphysics < 1380843729 141346 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put the TM in the quotes. innovative < 1380843732 311984 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am also in the quotes. < 1380843766 799594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no you are not, i ended them. < 1380843778 373977 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, true. < 1380843780 574065 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messed up on that. Anyway, I don't want the program sizes to be really big, unlike all of my others. So, Pancake Stack™. < 1380843782 244719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, we're in the single quotes. let's fix that' < 1380843795 773189 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, in "'pataphysics" it's just part of the word < 1380843801 5335 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW we're in single quotes. thanks jackass!! < 1380843805 397051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O'KAY < 1380843831 871565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ) < 1380843833 526596 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :41 < 1380843837 964933 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, easy! This is a family IRC! < 1380843851 132977 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1380843851 606348 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the simpsons family, maybe < 1380843865 245537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++[->++++++++<]>+[.] < 1380843865 391008 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ... < 1380843989 998762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we're a family IRC, we need to make a more child-friendly version of brainfuck. also this joke is not even new. < 1380843997 794905 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380844080 596178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-26-83.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380844083 868146 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380844104 450442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i chased them away. < 1380844116 989489 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnoqy? you may have!! < 1380844118 936007 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of shooting yourself in the foot, in COBOL, you put ARM.HAND.FINGER on COLT45HANDGUN.TRIGGER and SQUEEZE COLT45HANDGUN.TRIGGER < 1380844136 745250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is btiggins when you need him. < 1380844165 591316 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380844197 282719 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, have we made more than one cobol guy in here < 1380844226 296769 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no that was the same guy, right. < 1380844244 773074 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's great about cobol? < 1380844247 648968 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither. < 1380844261 944128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's btiffin < 1380844328 634538 :nooodl!~nooodl@26.136-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380846178 864458 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1380847097 101637 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380847877 178774 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380847984 231639 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380848195 719804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380848758 854134 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380848931 290396 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380849588 552056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow we have a fizzie, a fizziev, and a fizziew < 1380849631 885250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are fizzievp and fizzievpe next < 1380849643 987051 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :an abundance of fizzie entities < 1380849961 869348 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380850069 645489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next will be the outsourced cnzzie version. < 1380850917 761218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie's non-union Canadian equivalent? < 1380850925 367225 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, Chinese < 1380851111 409854 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no uszzie? poor us :( < 1380851165 213084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about suzzie < 1380851224 847455 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the root of all fizzies? < 1380851245 234768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :suzzie disappeared back in the early nineties. < 1380851339 398687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any good alternate history fiction where the soviet union survives into the Internet age < 1380851735 726492 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :suzzie q, i love you, suzzie q < 1380851763 822253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically the soviet union _did_ survive into the Internet age. < 1380851765 475996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes, it's called "modern china" < 1380851782 90180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it collapsed within months of eternal september. < 1380851804 490060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm (conveniently) defining "Internet age" as a time when the Internet is a pervasive part of everday life for a substantial fraction of all people < 1380851821 96505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how silly < 1380851826 980798 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380852134 201257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm funny today is the anniversary of the end of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis < 1380852156 379024 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380852182 349390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always confuse that with the 1991 thing, because i'm dumb < 1380852216 64246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was briefly wondering if quintopia had done so < 1380852249 486587 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"because i'm dumb" :D < 1380852259 351410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks myname?? < 1380852260 632116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although that's not how i found it, it's on wikipedia's On this day...) < 1380852346 30900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 56 years since sputnik < 1380853920 860106 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, kmc, I wanted to ask your opinion about an article? < 1380853957 843060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380853959 606778 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eighty-twenty.org/index.cgi/tech/scheme/fexprs-remain-inscrutable-20110929.html < 1380854011 947463 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Calling Kernel's Fexprs "trivial" doesn't seem quite right to me; perhaps calling them "inscrutable" would be a better fit.» uh? < 1380854075 497303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :point 1 is obvious, point 3 is interesting (saying that what should be an implementation detail of higher-order functions can get exposed) < 1380854112 188799 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I take back point 1 being obvious. Just its conclusions about compilability < 1380854128 639699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :point 3 is mentioned in shutt's thesis, he cites some paper that mentioned basically the same problem in the 80s < 1380854218 597793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can dealwith it somewhat with ($define call (c . args) (apply c args)) and then using (call f ...) instead of (f ...) < 1380854228 610456 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :problems with this left as an exercise to the chatter < 1380854689 421581 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how you guys make more serious discussions about programming and the theory behind it than every other channel i know < 1380854694 322556 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone else think it's crazy that "feedback" didn't exist as a concept before like a hundred years ago < 1380855313 338121 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Concurrent ML any good? Reason I ask is I think Racket is sucking CML's di.. concurrency mechanisms < 1380855321 149870 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380855374 212699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one suck a concurrency mechanism < 1380855436 720124 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of spit < 1380855682 268069 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380855812 502717 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1380855838 499464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1380855912 537362 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I meant Hi. < 1380856005 99681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE JWinslow23 | rev | rainwords < 1380856008 700250 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4).tEn.lAd.cRi 7nO 8CiReToSe# 9YrT 2,aCiReToSe 13fO 6DnIk 4rEhTo 7eHt 8rOf( 9.eGaP_NiAm/iKiW/GrO.SgNaLoSe//:pTtH 2:iKiW 13RuO 6TuO 4KcEhC 7,nOiTaMrOfNi 8eRoM 9RoF 2!tNeMyOlPeD 13DnA 6NgIsEd 4eGaUgNaL 7GnImMaRgOrP 8CiReToSe 9rOf 2bUh 13lAnOiTaNrEtNi 6eHt 4oT 7EmOcLeW 8:32wOlSnIwJ < 1380856014 560000 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still stuck on commands for my Tic-Tac-Toe esolang. Can you help? < 1380856067 813582 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380856078 424363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect this esolang will come to nought. just cross it out. < 1380856090 328656 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should a command be? a move? a board? a full board? < 1380856141 529327 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am thinking a move. But for that to work, we would need different commands on each space for each round. < 1380856160 761003 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we don't want repeats. < 1380856179 48438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could do nim sums of tic-tac-toe games. < 1380856195 429455 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE EgoBot | rainwords < 1380856198 564480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9EgObOt: 2WeLcOmE 13To 6tHe 4iNtErNaTiOnAl 7hUb 8fOr 9eSoTeRiC 2PrOgRaMmInG 13LaNgUaGe 6dEsIgN 4AnD 7DePlOyMeNt! 8FoR 9MoRe 2iNfOrMaTiOn, 13ChEcK 6OuT 4OuR 7WiKi: 8HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. 9(fOr 2tHe 13oThEr 6kInD 4Of 7eSoTeRiCa, 8TrY 9#eSoTeRiC 2On 13iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380856268 959953 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what are nim ums? < 1380856283 266883 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sums! Damn you auto correct! :) < 1380856329 612106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim < 1380856404 185055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nim sum of two games is where a player can choose which of the games to play at each step. < 1380856455 632825 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explanation was...confusing. < 1380856486 627222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380856491 742976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it works best for games where there is no difference between the two players. < 1380856499 281601 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380856509 624581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially games resembling nim. < 1380856566 641029 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :every impartial game is equivalent to a nim heap of a certain size (Sprague-Grundy thm) < 1380856593 770195 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how big would they be? < 1380856595 802057 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the idea of a tic tac toe esolang could be simpler than that < 1380856610 927504 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should. < 1380856642 745989 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380856643 123915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380856688 411306 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is hackego secured? < 1380856718 236406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: the size of the nim heap is less than the max number of moves remaining, i think. < 1380856747 769296 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: lots of ways. < 1380856757 258349 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380856777 126607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it runs in an umlbox sandbox, for a start. < 1380856778 87972 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry I was out. Wha were we saying about my idea? < 1380856869 870337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually have an idea about a tic-tac-toe esolang that would be interesting in the way i think of as interesting (i.e. with the tic-tac-toe tied to the _semantics_ of the esolang, rather than just its encoding or syntax). < 1380856905 240999 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380856921 847836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, which would be able to write interesting programs in that semantics. < 1380856923 763773 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we could do something like COBOL! (No, not that one.) < 1380856966 323748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you had generalized tic tac toe, and a program was a starting position. then the action of the program is somehow encoded in the perfect play after that position. < 1380857002 13757 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: way too short imho < 1380857015 303371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1380857031 206741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did say generalized, i assume that means unbounded board < 1380857036 238012 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380857045 304505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the name has to do with cheese and crackers, because pajama sam is my hero. < 1380857066 155248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...okay. < 1380857191 240920 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380857214 937175 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't make the rules, oerjan; i just enforce them. and the rule here is clear. < 1380857222 910293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1380858089 15447 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist < 1380858091 91577 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380858115 855160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should find a UML 0-day < 1380858129 179783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, maybe buy one, gotta be cheap < 1380858229 253783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1380859240 64161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :htf is it 6am already < 1380859270 563027 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bit unfamiliar with the lack of hths here < 1380859270 931364 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380859400 891112 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1380860208 137856 :fizziev!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380860245 789617 :fizziew!~htkallas@spa-ws160.spa.hut.fi QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380861303 666983 :PiRSquared!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: . < 1380861370 98351 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1380862298 386495 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Excess Flood < 1380862348 970945 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1380862895 844418 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380863771 826087 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380864249 141201 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380866906 8219 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380867208 332895 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380868006 597556 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Dodo, I miss you < 1380868191 825616 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111116 < 1380868333 673868 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380868714 141085 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380868843 562731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380869104 907331 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1380869449 592438 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380869520 845908 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1380869570 537879 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist happenings including the law against a controlled rage, and a hopeful fork < 1380869574 869405 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist happenings including the law against a controlled rage, and a hopeful fork: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380870962 626099 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380871125 369844 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380873092 208110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380873555 187015 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.112.180.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380874031 757216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, talking about C corner cases, here's one I found in mingw, and now I don't know whether it's correct or not < 1380874037 468260 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define STIRINGIFY(x) #x < 1380874054 479519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) {puts(STRINGIFY(a\r)); return 0;} < 1380874065 935954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in mingw, it prints "a" then a carriage return < 1380874094 106349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, backslashes are escaped correctly if they appeared in any context that would be syntactically legal if it weren't a macro argument… < 1380874223 441341 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874237 411752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380874312 604804 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tunes.org/~ < 1380874325 352503 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that the "past" is needed atm...) < 1380874345 442474 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380874378 821980 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874385 581889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380874392 728258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog tunes.org/~ < 1380874409 444451 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2007-04-29.txt:18:42:07: -!- ihope_ has quit ("http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/06.08.09"). < 1380874567 271388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | this space intentionally left right < 1380874839 883077 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380874852 141350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380875538 571737 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380875550 208073 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380876342 208742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380876366 7405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380876981 618266 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1380876999 890454 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877043 9880 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380877052 146241 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877062 969173 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380877147 237788 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380877953 725149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380879705 245554 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380881098 253962 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380881119 140721 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, Ubuntu's login prompt is really really dangerous from a security point of view < 1380881131 963188 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prefills the username and asks you to type the password < 1380881161 843464 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you get into the habit of just writing the password without the username first, meaning you can accidentally type it into an echoing field whenever you use a different system < 1380881226 910681 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting idea < 1380882377 898254 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_, thus rendering you vulnerable to people-staring-over-your-shoulder attacks < 1380882404 89226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget vnc and webcams < 1380882619 255304 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380882787 518610 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of webcam is pointed at your own screen < 1380882826 781778 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one of the hackers, obviously < 1380883234 229809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: reflections in your eye. < 1380883258 181373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You just rectangle-select it and say "enhance".) < 1380883287 667122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAAAAAAAAAH < 1380883336 933909 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that's why I always squint when typing my password in < 1380883368 641196 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, you could use text-mode login that doesm't display anything when writing pass < 1380883406 843789 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380883410 892252 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've written my password on the input line of this IRC client due to "I'm sure this computer is xlock'd but I don't want to bother waiting for the screen to wake up before typing in the password". (Though I take care to not press enter before actually seeing the dialog.) < 1380883426 539816 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if you accidentally type it as username? < 1380883963 885091 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380884307 436447 :ais523_!93bcc345@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.69 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380884478 335118 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380886082 216074 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886184 673541 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886468 421143 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380886513 210623 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886521 577669 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380886900 10129 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380887045 653153 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380887179 866748 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380887561 424645 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380888316 174220 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help < 1380888318 609437 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1380888324 279319 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm laughing at my own joke and I can't stop < 1380888331 46632 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens < 1380888338 417640 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds funny < 1380888341 808085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind sharing? < 1380888359 602195 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone posted on Facebook, "yay making friends" < 1380888379 742084 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I replied, "Making friends is the best.", followed by, "The only bit I find difficult is attaching the arms." < 1380888441 415241 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that almost makes me wish I had a facebook account < 1380888470 660811 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380888487 13259 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite though < 1380888502 705881 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not funny enough to motivate getting an account < 1380888542 454913 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, a joke would have to be pretty dang funny to motivate such a horrible thing wouldn't it < 1380888967 782076 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380889183 995126 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380889481 291987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380889783 525937 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380890297 22545 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380890751 303894 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380890810 295093 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to double a cube with the power of origami? < 1380890970 129273 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently so < 1380891003 220333 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know < 1380891012 794036 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380891118 582333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double the cube, double the fun. < 1380891622 157006 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380891704 127503 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892202 503095 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892219 827635 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380892308 944921 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380892313 734753 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892389 921384 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380892472 265623 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380892860 128025 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380892991 553718 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380893129 123029 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380894247 472466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sorry-for-the-sudden-metar morning! < 1380894250 163956 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1380894250 766926 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 041300Z 05013KT 30SM BKN080 BKN210 15/08 A3014 RMK AC6CI1 SLP205 < 1380894373 542162 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380894862 808958 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380895111 865162 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380895158 385822 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380895999 675715 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896020 605766 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896094 910484 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Excess Flood < 1380896109 345808 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896129 25978 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380896152 757201 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896235 210059 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896255 876162 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896325 103184 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380896348 597132 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from now on, I have glorious blue cherries under my fingers :D < 1380896791 336860 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380896911 130841 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380897330 168406 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380898064 547808 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380898096 879307 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898112 319200 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898273 411603 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Client Quit < 1380898450 892605 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380898480 648982 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898894 339487 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380898941 455202 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Happy CB Radio Day! < 1380898945 654918 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​193 ++++++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++>++>+++++<<<<-]>>++.<-.+++++++++++++++..+++++++++.>>++++.>---.-.<.<++++++++++.+++++++++++++++.+++.+++++.++++++.>.>++.<<--------------.<.>>+.-----------------------. [148] < 1380898981 195889 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1380899037 563072 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: CB radio day? < 1380899046 58958 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :10-4? < 1380899050 164238 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1380899051 239165 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1380899073 35921 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the time is also 10-4! < 1380899081 133488 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1380899082 394935 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime JWinslow23 < 1380899083 248233 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for JWinslow23 is Fri Oct 04 10:04:42 2013 < 1380899085 875132 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :where be you? < 1380899087 210470 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 10:04 < 1380899097 169273 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: can I ask him the The Question? < 1380899103 699999 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: go ahead < 1380899104 401973 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Question? < 1380899116 73312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: what are your approximate cördinates, and body weigh? < 1380899122 384230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. missed a o. < 1380899128 322130 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coördinates, says I. < 1380899136 675162 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I still need to get used to that shiny keyboard.) < 1380899138 89233 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea, but somewhere in Wisconsin. I weigh about 110 pounds. < 1380899144 18061 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks! < 1380899222 505634 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you a CB radio user? < 1380899244 8259 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I always her 10-4 on walkie talkies. < 1380899264 49320 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hear! DYAC! < 1380899278 94611 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang you auto correct! < 1380899284 218203 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :on phone? < 1380899302 373937 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use walkie-talkies. Not cell phones. < 1380899306 227604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1380899311 134690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1380899337 116787 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean are you using IRC on a phone < 1380899352 328747 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, on a school computer. < 1380899367 308935 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :school computer has autocorrect? O_o < 1380899377 714708 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run Welcome RaidoUsers < 1380899383 380206 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: Welcome: command not found < 1380899395 889764 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE RadioUsers < 1380899400 709377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :RaDiOuSeRs: WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380899435 513259 :carado_!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380899448 960868 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380899589 821654 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :School computer has no autocorrect, I just joked about that. < 1380899600 149083 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honest mistake! < 1380899689 628411 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1380899713 975583 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have an idea for my Tic-Tac-Toe language. < 1380899715 462152 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you stealth quoted me 4 days ago! < 1380899715 607947 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380899726 965884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: is it recursive? < 1380899729 936597 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1380899730 193213 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1380899734 959014 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1380899735 104938 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1380899741 20330 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listmodules < 1380899741 165864 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :activity base bf check compose dice dict djinn dummy elite eval filter free fresh haddock help hoogle instances irc karma localtime more oeis offlineRC pl pointful poll pretty quote search slap < 1380899741 166058 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :source spell system tell ticker todo topic type undo unlambda unmtl version where < 1380899772 250187 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boily: I don't THINK so. < 1380899784 779397 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The center square and winning move are NOPs. < 1380899795 994972 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All other squares are commands. < 1380899802 1601 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still figuring out that they are. < 1380899810 626583 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want another BF derivative! < 1380899825 131229 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I meant "what they are". < 1380900664 528618 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help poll < 1380900664 666935 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll provides: poll-list poll-show poll-add choice-add vote poll-result poll-close poll-remove < 1380900683 642305 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help poll-add < 1380900684 77357 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :poll-add Adds a new poll, with no candidates < 1380900705 699732 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-add Should I go on with my Tic Tac Toe idea? < 1380900706 74647 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: @poll-add with "ThisTopic" style names < 1380900722 226280 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@poll-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea < 1380900722 371784 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Added new poll: "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea" < 1380900731 994603 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help choice-add < 1380900732 140692 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :choice-add Adds a new choice to the given poll < 1380900749 392770 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea Yes < 1380900749 538231 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "Yes", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900757 650854 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea No < 1380900757 796221 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "No", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900771 681633 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@choice-add ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea Maybe? < 1380900771 909605 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :New candidate "Maybe?", added to poll "ShouldIusemyTicTacToeidea". < 1380900781 227657 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help vote < 1380900781 403241 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote Vote for in < 1380900875 211781 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380900893 894020 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE conehead | rainwords < 1380900897 341391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​7CoNeHeAd: 8WeLcOmE 9To 2tHe 13iNtErNaTiOnAl 6hUb 4fOr 7eSoTeRiC 8PrOgRaMmInG 9LaNgUaGe 2dEsIgN 13AnD 6DePlOyMeNt! 4FoR 7MoRe 8iNfOrMaTiOn, 9ChEcK 2OuT 13OuR 6WiKi: 4HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. 7(fOr 8tHe 9oThEr 2kInD 13Of 6eSoTeRiCa, 4TrY 7#eSoTeRiC 8On 9iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380900929 454863 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear lord this is the best welcome to date < 1380900992 141314 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380901027 887522 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380901225 343623 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380901285 896951 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380901288 297667 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1380901294 23893 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good welcome. < 1380901311 807328 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380901417 321598 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1380901422 957371 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got three welcomes, and that wasn't one. < 1380901424 210285 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sobs.
< 1380901460 355261 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | rainwords < 1380901463 554775 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9ShIkHiN: 2wElCoMe 13tO 6ThE 4InTeRnAtIoNaL 7HuB 8FoR 9EsOtErIc 2pRoGrAmMiNg 13lAnGuAgE 6DeSiGn 4aNd 7dEpLoYmEnT! 8fOr 9mOrE 2InFoRmAtIoN, 13cHeCk 6oUt 4oUr 7wIkI: 8hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 9(FoR 2ThE 13OtHeR 6KiNd 4oF 7EsOtErIcA, 8tRy 9#EsOtErIc 2oN 13IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901468 289105 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayy! < 1380901474 853411 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | rainwords | tac < 1380901477 868192 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ \ 7ShIkHiN: 8wElCoMe 9tO 2ThE 13InTeRnAtIoNaL 6HuB 4FoR 7EsOtErIc 8pRoGrAmMiNg 9lAnGuAgE 2DeSiGn 13aNd 6dEpLoYmEnT! 4fOr 7mOrE 8InFoRmAtIoN, 9cHeCk 2oUt 13oUr 6wIkI: 4hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 7(FoR 8ThE 9OtHeR 2KiNd 13oF 6EsOtErIcA, 4tRy 7#EsOtErIc 8oN 9IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901497 199378 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE shikhin | tac | rainwords < 1380901500 653923 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 6ShIkHiN: 4wElCoMe 7tO 8ThE 9InTeRnAtIoNaL 2HuB 13FoR 6EsOtErIc 4pRoGrAmMiNg 7lAnGuAgE 8DeSiGn 9aNd 2dEpLoYmEnT! 13fOr 6mOrE 4InFoRmAtIoN, 7cHeCk 8oUt 9oUr 2wIkI: 13hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 6(FoR 4ThE 7OtHeR 8KiNd 9oF 2EsOtErIcA, 13tRy 6#EsOtErIc 4oN 7IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1380901524 320763 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks tac in the... hmm... does a unix command have reproduction organs?
< 1380901536 712106 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, stdrepro < 1380901605 542534 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/WeLcOmE < 1380901608 956333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/bin/WeLcOmE < 1380901683 458089 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, interesting. still written in py < 1380901703 539019 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though someone would've rewritten it in perl by now < 1380901773 882658 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a python interpreter written in perl. < 1380901820 80616 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, not gonna do that < 1380901829 6808 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not over hackego < 1380902211 885014 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380902219 328822 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yield to the Asinine and Useless side of the Programming. let free your sanity inhibitions! < 1380902336 308435 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380902343 771358 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sanity inhobitions I've let free when I wrote python program that had no statements, only expressions < 1380902368 282139 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but writing a perl program over hackego would just be too much of a pita < 1380902389 341451 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, unless I figure out how to nicely simulate ed, that is < 1380902409 623252 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you know what to do. let the yaks roam and be shaved! < 1380902462 382146 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I do < 1380902475 44933 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd just not scale to multi-user < 1380902620 179582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1380903123 139033 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380903568 803209 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? scapegoat < 1380903570 801995 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :scapegoat? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1380903596 853574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the @ of version control < 1380904115 359006 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1380904119 739663 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380904586 739481 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380906109 613484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1380906692 124108 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380907267 25223 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380907595 731152 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380907994 774346 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380908046 752689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1380908051 55986 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dill < 1380908127 545018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's too dilly. < 1380908133 694913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 1 < 1380908135 976090 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahananne < 1380908147 77490 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --estonian < 1380908148 909410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: estonian < 1380908160 239047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --list < 1380908162 965771 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1380908181 460502 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --esolangs < 1380908183 469176 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sartre < 1380908187 349725 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1380908194 254725 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380908196 602503 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380908205 3084 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --swedish --finnish 10 # let's get some of that Swedo-Finnish stuff going < 1380908207 401568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :telsertapa sellistenemanan banansarskeiskys fixeri aukebatalat konaivuamiintron asigniner tempiltimurkes vacks sum < 1380908256 324093 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that like run a markov thingy on a mix of swedish and finnish data? < 1380908326 620980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380908349 259098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a character... trigram? 4-gram? Something like that, I forget exactly. < 1380908356 170851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you specify multiple options, it just interpolates. < 1380908376 785518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, sums the frequencies.) < 1380908394 981532 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah, ogerman is probably o-german, not oger-man < 1380908450 274263 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it weighted by the size of the input sets? I imagine --esolangs --x would not be very esolangy otherwise < 1380908478 235746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think all the models are normalized, but not sure. < 1380908509 64732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M --esolangs 15 < 1380908513 676958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :whailyletornentallyido ado dup lazzo ora son guo wierding befear sho affic miscudal yllangi abn evill < 1380908528 851370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not conclusive, but it looks quite esolangy. < 1380908547 265718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And whailyletornentallyido is probably quite a nice language.) < 1380908619 868823 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dup is an esolang, isn't it? and befear is probably from befunge +/- some letters < 1380908749 425306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dupdog is. Apparently DUP is, too. < 1380908749 923547 :updog!~updog@192.210.145.119 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's updog? < 1380908813 203514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sort of expecting befear to actually exist, but seems that there's just Befreak. < 1380908869 495112 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :begrunge, a nirvana-based esolang < 1380909182 643727 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begrudge, a language where the implementation runs your program but isn't happy about it at all. < 1380909399 251148 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds a little like INTERCAL < 1380909489 16108 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1380909639 671775 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380909657 855462 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380909928 358758 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1380909942 171949 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380910106 248115 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380910627 905139 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1380910637 799594 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get to the semifinal without actually winning a match < 1380910717 423826 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what competition? < 1380910726 921632 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380910798 598734 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: writing an AI for a Battleships-like game to run on a RaspberryPi < 1380910806 252375 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1380910868 330976 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost actually got to the final without winning a match < 1380910874 59989 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1380910888 337510 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opponent almost got disqualified for misentering twice < 1380910900 918016 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380910907 17216 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saved him out of the kindness in my heart < 1380910929 784494 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the fact that if I managed to get to the final without winning I'd feel really unfulfilled < 1380911437 587333 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380911573 495757 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, oi, start a succession fort < 1380911618 621055 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: I can't right now on account of the only computer I have access to which I am willing to install software on is a Raspberry Pi < 1380911629 361506 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And tomorrow is Freshers' Fair < 1380911633 540157 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe tomorrow evening < 1380911653 159110 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn you < 1380911679 627828 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does freshers work in universities that actually have a week for it < 1380911743 129759 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, you have a week to get settled in with stuff like "This practical is where you learn to turn on a computer" < 1380911755 846237 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then for one day all the societies try to get you to join them < 1380911762 92875 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it's over < 1380911825 705697 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that does just sound like the first week at warwick < 1380911842 206849 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the societies all try and get you to join on tuesday through thursday < 1380912964 150676 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone suggestions for naming my hardware in general or my new mini root in detail? < 1380912986 681845 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhizobia < 1380913020 872793 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1380913030 292782 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :A name. < 1380913048 505562 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it come frome? < 1380913110 371851 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380913242 221148 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1380913314 174569 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380913318 210985 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380913450 715834 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, it's one of the nitrogen-fixing bacteria in plants or something < 1380913634 708737 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380915328 575174 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380915594 192816 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :driyoyleujiy < 1380915754 542522 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380916047 839216 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally out of formation. < 1380916062 192515 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uuuuuuuuurgh... that was long. but now, I understand enterprisey stuff! < 1380916089 178534 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray, apparently < 1380916125 140783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah. < 1380916136 736645 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling dizzy on so many levels it's not funny. < 1380916139 873843 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woe, apparently < 1380916163 217014 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the woe is amply felt, and I'm confused as ever about manufacturing processes. < 1380916520 308390 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pung < 1380916522 630607 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat < 1380916603 516129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, that means scrotum < 1380916623 10887 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the second definition on urban dictionary about pung. < 1380917149 739353 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380918576 588882 :driyoyleujiy!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380918845 188712 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919251 589973 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919908 238605 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380919935 294141 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy CB Radio Day! < 1380920035 500453 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some day, I'll get an amateur radio license... < 1380920040 661454 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dreamily looks in the sky
< 1380920081 299956 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the license in the sy or just the radio waves < 1380920208 718161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :license in the sky with radio waaaaves ♪ < 1380920751 647592 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* JWinslow23 doesn't give a BF < 1380920772 658052 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1380920901 643859 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380921001 212834 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380921322 352177 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new swearing idiom, after the Fungottian Conjugations, “to give a BF”. < 1380921451 313475 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was mine! < 1380921538 113841 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF. < 1380921553 179826 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1380921762 509231 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1380921762 821356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1380921786 920232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: probably poulet tonight. maybe. but don't bet on it. < 1380921789 736040 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380921796 725174 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run JWinslow23 < 1380921798 83046 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: JWinslow23: command not found < 1380921806 942031 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno your syntax. < 1380921847 729135 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a shell < 1380921851 679294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo JWinslow23 < 1380921853 113323 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 < 1380922086 970521 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo %JWinslow23% < 1380922088 367421 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​%JWinslow23% < 1380922105 864729 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run it < 1380922108 346264 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1380922111 140975 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380922123 158617 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, SYNTAX ERROR! < 1380922125 154984 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922136 102068 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1380922141 219776 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will improve that. < 1380922154 769354 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922156 296994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922164 510350 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922166 377459 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922182 363457 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`If you're happy and you know it, then your face will surely show it, if you're happy and you know it, ​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922183 578427 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: If: not found < 1380922194 883526 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good, right? < 1380922314 168680 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380922722 285073 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Quit "Something went wrong." < 1380922728 720705 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Quit "Something went wrong."] < 1380922731 744815 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380922748 483861 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380922866 911958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: something's wrong. < 1380922877 631790 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: an error occurred < 1380923243 935979 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone make a clever `? telling people to experiment with the bots in /query < 1380923308 353826 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing irc in private sounds ultimately boring < 1380923363 413854 :alone!~dev@78.179.164.134 QUIT :Quit: ��� Pislik Script �!� with Self clearing virus System! Download it at 9www.PislikleR.com < 1380923406 124333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember HL engine games that would crash with "Error: no error" < 1380923417 551272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Linux equivalent is usually "Error: Success" < 1380924077 143658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1380924188 823299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1380924189 6606 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 6h 47m 53s ago: you stealth quoted me 4 days ago! < 1380924211 297547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily i don't recall there being anything stealthy about it. < 1380924211 442991 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380924228 812154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -4 < 1380924230 841979 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1112) It is probably also "horrifyingly fucked up" \ 1113) aaaaaurgh. you're making me think on a Monday! that shouldn't be happening! \ 1114) what did fungot say? kmc: my implementation isn't supposed to sound rude. \ 1115) BBC: Exercise 'can be as good as pills' oh, they mean for your health < 1380924562 741521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Gregor ais523 evicted your logs from the topic, you might want to fix them. < 1380924562 887256 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380924876 600453 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380925306 169301 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380925552 281649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : school computer has autocorrect? O_o <-- it's so the pupils will get used to computers being maddenly annoying. < 1380925791 984773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily also, you are still confusing tac and rev < 1380925792 130299 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1380925869 439818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380925872 858924 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 2 30 234 < 1380925882 896759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run welcome | wc < 1380925885 443411 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 30 233 < 1380925898 408842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/WeLcOmE < 1380925900 286 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | CaT < 1380925915 513715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/CaT < 1380925917 45384 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ print (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) < 1380925922 271428 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix them up, too < 1380925953 403553 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :is tac the one that reverses order of lines? < 1380925958 588372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1380925969 229183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, good, hopefully I'll remember that < 1380925969 374553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the python for printing without a newline? < 1380926052 733642 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. Unfortunately I don't know python < 1380926059 592273 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :add an extra comma at the end < 1380926069 495752 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in ... basic? < 1380926146 174283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think that's perl, not python < 1380926164 521700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493386/how-to-print-in-python-without-newline-or-space < 1380926194 238401 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, so comma adds a space instead of newline? < 1380926218 489972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm... < 1380926341 899473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e '1aimport sys' -e 's/print/sys.write/' bin/CaT #Let's see how much i messed this up < 1380926346 187142 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926354 116646 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/CaT < 1380926355 197523 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ import sys \ sys.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) < 1380926372 962788 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926376 267094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/CaT", line 3, in \ sys.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) \ AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'write' \ 0 0 0 < 1380926384 61922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1380926390 528177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380926407 744983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/write/stdout.write/' bin/CaT < 1380926412 74589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926415 514366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926418 380461 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/CaT", line 3, in \ sys.stdout.write (lambda s: "".join([(s[i].upper() if i%2==0 else s[i].lower()) for i in range(len(s)) ]))(open("/dev/stdin").read()) \ TypeError: must be string or read-only character buffer, not function \ 0 0 0 < 1380926446 867653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats python -----###
< 1380926515 480211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/write /write (/;s/read(/read()/' bin/CaT < 1380926519 328527 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1380926522 746875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE | wc < 1380926525 471164 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ 1 30 233 < 1380926531 851458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE < 1380926534 582339 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1380926541 848269 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1380926659 281408 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1380926669 95264 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan! < 1380926672 291155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mu < 1380926676 435667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering < 1380926692 599878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dangerous! < 1380926792 538663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cosider a class of programs in which every program P can, given the right integer as input, output the listing of any other program in this class < 1380926794 370312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also what happened to your webside, we had to link Spiral to Wayback. < 1380926800 635936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*site < 1380926858 36151 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it make sense to talk about the maximal such class? < 1380926874 224459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1380926876 698363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost it when i stopped paying for it < 1380926935 630426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is clearly a program which ignores its input and prints itself (i.e. an ordinary quine). it cannot be extended, and there are many such, so "the" cannot apply. < 1380926969 530450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its single-program class cannot be extended < 1380927127 83030 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1380927132 185996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh the set of programs that can print _anything_ given an integer as input is such a class, i should think. although it might still be extendable. < 1380927133 757180 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maximum then < 1380927150 776693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i would expect the most inclusive such class < 1380927156 141015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :to contain cat at least < 1380927162 708513 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1380927165 732852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the "the" that's the problem, not the "maximal" :P < 1380927169 610342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the most inclusive class < 1380927174 848072 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric : even computable? < 1380927199 863665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously non-existent. just make two programs that can print anything, except each other. < 1380927212 409727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one should you include? < 1380927269 595519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can always find a maximal class, using zorn's lemma on the class you start with. (you might even be able to tweak it to be constructive to list.) < 1380927321 878105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, cannot be constructive/computable, it will be undecidable whether a program can be added to the class. < 1380927356 593410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you cannot check whether a program can print a given other program. < 1380927412 808705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you start out with a class that is artificial limited to only decidable programs as the common output < 1380927418 302600 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone sent a tombstone to the creators of COBOL in 1960! http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/X572.85 < 1380927429 880551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ally < 1380927441 555897 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what if you throw an equivalence relation over your programs < 1380927451 89313 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"if they do the same thing, they're the same program" < 1380927466 260459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: that's not going to _help_ decidability. < 1380927467 529800 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then reprensent every equivalency class by a decidable program < 1380927511 204399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: there are probably programs that have no decidable equivalent programs. < 1380927542 484033 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in the set of programs that print listings of other programs of the class given integers as input? < 1380927566 715201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh brain < 1380927601 274516 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every program is equivalent to the sequence (output(n))_(n\inN) < 1380927636 140784 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you can make a decidable program matching that sequence? < 1380927651 815118 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1380927673 886508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um those programs don't match quintopia's initial problem afaict < 1380927715 466079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you can make decidable programs for a simple example. the problem is coming up with anything interesting where you can decide for _all_ the members. < 1380927940 605408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, you can write any old HTML/CSS/JS in jsfiddle and then immediately download it as a Firefox OS mobile app < 1380928350 987435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pungdjur < 1380928352 651589 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chatqwhe < 1380928361 336481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :disappointing < 1380928363 826613 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's the proof that it's impossible to prove an as-inclusive-as-possible maximal set is maximal < 1380928368 681685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 pungdyr < 1380928370 351800 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chatqle < 1380928441 479369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 djur < 1380928443 212785 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qwhe < 1380928454 194429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 dongs < 1380928455 801772 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :qbatf < 1380928473 528687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't know, but i am saying you have to construct your maximal set very carefully to ensure no undecidable-whether-you-can-add-them candidates arise < 1380928491 564562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it might very well be impossible to do so. < 1380928506 735399 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what situation would it become undecidable whether you can add them < 1380928547 169354 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380928598 86849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: if all the programs already printed are capable of printing a program whose halting problem is undecidable, and if it does halt the part after the loop belongs to the class... < 1380928608 995910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*already included < 1380928630 510541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1380928659 64613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's just the simplest context i could think of < 1380928702 881070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also have programs at some point for which it is undecidable whether they can print a given other progra¨m < 1380928822 85742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you try to include only programs for which such things are decidable, then it may not be maximal in the original sense because there would always be a program with undecidability issues that _could_ be added. < 1380928851 549400 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does this mean the existence of an as-inclusive-as-possible such class is undecidable? < 1380928912 894910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not claiming to have any proof. < 1380928970 758209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :class of what now < 1380928973 992266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :an added problem is that you have not defined "as-inclusive-as-possible" < 1380928984 11376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we have logs. < 1380928998 985101 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not gregor's, i note < 1380929018 896072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ais523 removed them. the .txt version still works. < 1380929043 872880 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they removed < 1380929048 119374 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the class of computable enumerations? hm < 1380929057 925113 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't "A is as-inclusive-as-possible" mean "there is no set B (fitting the same criteria ) < 1380929067 106862 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that A is included in B"? < 1380929079 528451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ask ais523, but my guess is because the link leads to a date listing page where the most prominent links _don't_ work. < 1380929099 721205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i have been the most active Gregor-complainer during the crisis < 1380929101 637868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no, that's "maximal". < 1380929170 550392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand quintopia to mean something else by "as-inclusive-as-possible", something that excludes my example above of every quine forming a single-element maximal class. < 1380929209 462458 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines take input now? < 1380929226 59177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: no, they ignore it. < 1380929226 248305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ignore it < 1380929229 855446 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was trying to be funny. sorry) < 1380929239 564517 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes are disallowed in this space-time vector < 1380929249 452746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since there are obviously subsets of programs that exclude each other, the concept of "inclusive" seems _very_ vague to me. < 1380929263 492623 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to include something, you have to exclude something else. < 1380929299 600863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in what sense is whatever you include then "inclusive" if that's to mean something other than maximal. < 1380929315 533475 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't know how to define it. i suppose the one you get by starting with all quines, then modifying them so they can all print each other < 1380929406 932202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i suspect a horrible mess of possible alternative definitions. < 1380929661 838882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i never notice the log problem personally because my habit is to just bring up the last .txt link on the address line and edit the date. < 1380929674 135301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bar < 1380929690 734251 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380929716 874280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda like the formatting < 1380929736 679944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot stand the font size < 1380929736 842995 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1380929747 799270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's fine if i zoom out. < 1380929755 592915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh... i think it's the same size as the .txt for me. < 1380929863 754884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, i may have to set the font size instead, i recall one of the options causes horrible wrapping. < 1380929872 543809 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1380929877 455950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hineb < 1380929898 381238 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, the messages gets wrapped to right below the corresponding nick, iirc) < 1380929902 426459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*get < 1380929963 456455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, since .txt from the address bar means less tweaking, i use that. < 1380930010 687367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except in some cases, when the .txt gets horribly broken and i switch to the formatted version. < 1380930018 217981 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380930031 987693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right-to-left stuff sometimes does that. < 1380930071 840496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and it affects the whole _rest_ of the file after it.) < 1380930174 443945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish Gregor would set the encoding on the .txt file, for some reason IE 10 hides the option to select utf-8 if it hasn't autodetected it deeply in a horribly long list of charset options. < 1380930205 861883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo, fuck IE < 1380930210 597223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(old IE 8 had utf-8 conveniently placed.) < 1380930274 276950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have "codepage 65001" < 1380930281 605071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're so predictable. also, does whatever you use have changing a wrongly detected encoding in a convenient place? < 1380930332 156235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah both Chrome and Firefox make that convenient < 1380930346 408819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that you can introduce security holes by convincing users to change the character encoding (or tricking the browser) < 1380930372 144166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't see 65001 on the list. < 1380930378 67210 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380930392 704815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly the list isn't _that_ long, but utf-8 isn't on the first page. < 1380930393 919024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm OK with being predictable < 1380931106 608582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With Silk Road shut down, developers are finding it hard to do a rolling deploy" -- Hacker News Onion < 1380931128 149335 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i get it, it's about "blunts" < 1380931132 444966 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you ok with being decidable? < 1380931148 15327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: so close yet < 1380931162 520260 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is me and every drug joke. right here. the platonic bike reaction. < 1380931178 205112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: the alternative is having unbounded state, which seems more terrifying < 1380931232 282361 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you live a continuous life you'll probably endure an uncountable infinity of states < 1380931241 22155 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :big if. < 1380931320 60875 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one pride myself on living moment to moment. < 1380931493 101628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol continuum is a lie < 1380931624 358650 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, don't Zeno's paradoxes pretty much state "both time and distance are neither discrete nor continuous"? < 1380931725 487338 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of what i get out of zeno is "dang, calculus is nice" < 1380931765 354421 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Achilles and the Tortoise is a bit silly < 1380931774 376166 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodnight < 1380931779 149550 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.44 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380932019 19661 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380932023 178448 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380932075 230894 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380932630 865578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380932871 110239 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380932892 583967 :^v!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380933488 682027 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380934144 618267 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380934314 35974 :^v!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :v^ < 1380934323 798270 :v^!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1380934429 618648 :^v!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :dan200 < 1380934718 894108 :dan200!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1380934796 430393 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380934906 53425 :^v!~LewlLol@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380935055 741754 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380936201 934469 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380937705 580739 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1380938124 610287 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1380939694 555231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Racket thinks I'm a consenting adult < 1380939733 903210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1380939845 561265 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like not letting me force code that calls raise to continue after the raise unless the code itself supports it < 1380939897 134995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you and Racket have a safeword < 1380939940 77140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just forgotten to use the unsafeWord < 1380940711 623964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380940752 166206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I replaced the power supply and now this computer works. < 1380940851 521525 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, this power supply has three lights labeled "A", "S", "T", and a red button below them. The "A" light is lit blue. Do you know what this means? < 1380940977 5529 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's abstract, but not syntax or a tree. < 1380941896 65651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you press the button < 1380942025 241756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't push it yet. < 1380942359 571460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1380942362 116237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you ought to < 1380942553 777557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, what if "A" is for "atomic" < 1380942776 820288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: did that fix the noise as well < 1380942816 467370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Installing the new power supply fix the noise and everything else that was going wrong. < 1380942910 819598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now in this Dungeons&Dragons game I have to find some leader of some resistance against Aberration Hater (which runs over the entire city they are in) in order to rescue someone from being imprisoned, but it is difficult to find and I will need some advisor helping with it and will need a boat and there are other problems too < 1380943030 786245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the boat for < 1380943063 784166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can travel by water or by land, but there is another war going on in the land; a boat might be better way. < 1380943076 100778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it isn't strictly necessary but I expect it to help. < 1380943158 681126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some dwarf came in to say we finish our quest and gave us three horses and a silver ring; another wizard said he didn't trust him. Maybe that is correct; maybe he trained the horses wrong on purpose or something; I don't know. < 1380943324 442316 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know about this resistance and imprisonment due to some kind of hallucination when trying to escape out of the demon's castle, it interrupted the escape and then the voice of my character's father's friend said some things, I tried to write it down but found only seaweed to write it on and only white ink to write with; but later on I found that it was actually written on paper, not seaweed, and with black ink, not white ink. If he is who he said < 1380943328 248012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might help. < 1380943344 469407 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops did I send this message wrong? Did it get cut off? < 1380943366 479795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got a ":cameron.freenode.net 421 zzo38 in :Unknown command" even though I typed no such command) < 1380943494 9012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it cut off after "If he is who he said" < 1380943514 941828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he is who he said he is, then I suppose my character's father's friend is a speaker in dreams. < 1380943527 876242 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I get that error message? < 1380943547 799713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This is a single-threaded IRC client) < 1380943562 933250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps you wrote the rest as a raw message? < 1380943594 464403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the part after what was cut off < 1380943613 230457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't; I wrote it all on one line before pushing the carriage return key, and then it came up this error message. < 1380943758 626634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well afaiu "in" is the command that was unknown. < 1380943777 709981 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, I can see that too < 1380943805 565712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the "in dreams." overflowed a buffer and got sent raw? < 1380943809 650373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :("in" doesn't occur after that except as the second to last word) < 1380943890 221339 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you mean after the CRLF is sent somehow? I don't know how. < 1380943973 141470 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "i" is the 519th character. < 1380944271 277017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried the red button it changes which light is lit and seems to affect the fan speed. < 1380944380 104761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Automatic", "Silent" and "Terrifying", clearly. < 1380944460 444635 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get slightly bad video again but only when the CPU is in use a lot, it seems. < 1380944514 470354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not as bad as before. < 1380944654 550120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I will need some spell to write on the water. < 1380944695 983674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti Rhei < 1380944762 601843 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you clone the serial number and capacity of a hard disk? < 1380944803 88687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't fizzie do something similar the other day < 1380944826 194474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to move a windows installation < 1380944859 192015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or someone here did, anyway. < 1380944894 854188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it wasn't actually the same capacity, he moved it from a hard disk to a smaller SSD iirc < 1380944964 661268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean if you have a disk with a larger capacity and a different serial number and you want to move it so that it has the same serial number and capacity as the old one (so that a part of the new one isn't used) < 1380945053 184811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. well i don't know anyway. < 1380947267 856112 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The video now only looks bad when I am standing far away from the computer. < 1380947280 322402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks correct from close up. < 1380947367 85156 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist sb&hj < 1380947372 245699 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist sb&hj: Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1380948455 859067 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380948653 461476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 42 < 1380948655 962263 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 42: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1380948737 699884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other thing I ought to do before going in the boat is to summon a familiar, but there are no stats for a leech in any of the books. There also isn't any stats for a big leech that we can downgrade (my brother's suggestion). < 1380948769 568715 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1380949137 750755 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take a banker and downgrade that. < 1380949201 632253 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... No, that won't work. < 1380949224 906970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380949229 536795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't imagine why. < 1380949290 480926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: Rebooting. < 1380949385 423663 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380949632 640008 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380949659 552472 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr < 1380949665 979415 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watching talk on Go concurrency < 1380949678 267948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talks about how concurrency != parallelism < 1380949692 694530 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then goes on to say how concurrency is < 1380949705 40127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the video card or video cable bad? Is there something wrong with the surge protector? < 1380949717 564031 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Much nicer than dealing with the minutiae of parallelism (threads, semaphores, locks, barriers, etc.)" < 1380949754 160456 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those things are totally features of parallelism rather than poor models of concurrency < 1380952189 118492 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380952209 813501 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asie < 1380953483 481331 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380953659 876761 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380954116 941792 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380954296 12904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does seem to have something to do with the video card. < 1380954327 107638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it seems I am getting bad video only when the video memory is being written. < 1380954917 704681 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1380955029 53253 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1380956538 68733 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1380956559 881105 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1380958763 703897 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :onfail $ run $ head -10 "README" < 1380958764 46679 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has the same meaning as: < 1380958764 192183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(onfail (run (head -10 "README"))) < 1380958765 682970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1380959049 327836 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380959076 902899 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380959198 124358 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380959660 26802 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet Sherlock and Hella Watson update < 1380960426 329751 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380960659 42618 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380960762 369986 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380962221 118762 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380962781 506506 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380964035 973484 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Mayushii < 1380964381 698309 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380964486 705778 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380966877 179093 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380967068 990041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this latest update for Dungeons&Dragons game recordings? < 1380968559 588864 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380968858 945230 :Uguubee111116!~uguubee@101.166.145.209 QUIT :Quit: Uguubee111116 < 1380969183 181292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380971210 754291 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380972088 87546 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380973112 151534 :shikhin!~Shikhin@59.177.197.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380973417 157014 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1380973472 487621 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380973514 125927 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@59.177.201.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380973619 765921 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380973661 117206 :shikhin!~Shikhin@59.177.197.224 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380974149 210642 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380974682 839813 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1380976061 805035 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380976061 990397 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380976061 990493 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1380976555 495296 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1380976836 169193 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@59.177.201.62 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380978359 401193 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380978468 601612 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1380980658 405459 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found another three articles about Core War in old magazines and added them to the list http://www.retroprogramming.com/2011/11/bibliography-of-programming-games.html < 1380980743 494408 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380981689 243593 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380981724 767669 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote at the same time < 1380981732 159200 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1031) ok confession time because of the whole "generation" thing i thought that kids were born in waves until i was like twelve and everybody like reproduced at the same time \ 1062) I would like to learn how to use a sword And also how to ride a unicycle Perhaps not at the same time < 1380981751 131460 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll never guess what societies I've joined < 1380981776 640629 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unicycle sword juggling society? < 1380981921 802887 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your local fencing club? < 1380982161 231843 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380982283 564611 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner is closer < 1380982546 712519 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JuggleSoc said they'd teach me to ride a unicycle < 1380982559 588696 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1380982567 828449 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MedievalSoc said they'd teach me to use a sword < 1380982609 49487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they seriously named like cyberpunk security organizations < 1380982637 746040 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1380982643 796144 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even HackSoc < 1380982656 942760 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing. < 1380982666 155218 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@120.59.103.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380982674 732166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get complementary mirrored glasses for joining < 1380982752 715906 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope so < 1380982927 14522 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380982938 206637 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1380982983 216446 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380983311 124514 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@120.59.103.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380983318 274546 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise what is the point < 1380983427 113974 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find a song I can sing to show off my singiness < 1380983470 257781 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HANG UP THE CHICK HABIT HANG IT UP DADDY YOYO hth < 1380983517 174675 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: is that going to get me into the cast of Jesus Christ Superstar < 1380983524 793726 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope not < 1380983543 739037 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380983547 374551 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but try having some car chasing going on while you sing < 1380983547 519790 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1380983551 371790 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe a lapdance < 1380983566 735816 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could make a great movie < 1380983747 75476 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking If I Were A Rich Man < 1380983976 505460 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have texted my actor-friend for advice < 1380983986 477469 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully he will not see me as a rival < 1380984150 579980 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.57.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380984153 730162 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.57.253 QUIT :Changing host < 1380984153 876106 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380984155 845594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : are they seriously named like cyberpunk security organizations < 1380984157 741878 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1380984171 724220 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i asked the sociology society if they were called SocSoc and they said yes < 1380984670 425006 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1380984802 125123 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1380985005 305672 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380985874 797220 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there are at least 6 Homestuck fans at the University of York < 1380986601 131193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that group called StuckSoc? < 1380986808 936088 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1380986820 777528 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need 15 to start a society < 1380986853 465095 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as far as I know none of them has met more than three < 1380986899 120546 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@120.59.106.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380986936 694932 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380986960 117131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that's a security measure. < 1380987010 437794 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1380987176 581409 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@120.59.106.169 NICK :shikhin_THE_mast < 1380987195 815940 :shikhin_THE_mast!~Shikhin@120.59.106.169 NICK :shikhin_mogw < 1380987254 187438 :shikhin_mogw!~Shikhin@120.59.106.169 NICK :shikhin < 1380987262 840191 :shikhin!~Shikhin@120.59.106.169 QUIT :Changing host < 1380987262 985704 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1380987374 774700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my smoke/co detector sems to be hallucinating a fire < 1380987512 285998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's saying smoke, not co. If it was saying co, I wouldn't assume it was hallucinating < 1380988442 817183 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1380988442 962430 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380988443 107940 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1380988488 937722 :pikhq_!~pikhq@24-107-196-13.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380988646 219761 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally got my Tic-Tac-Toe idea into a wiki page! < 1380988745 849821 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope my detector wasn't misreporting CO as fire < 1380988754 13227 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1380988781 363189 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My smoke detector/CO alarm went off, reporting smoke, no evidence of any fire anywhere in sight < 1380988816 437870 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now? < 1380988852 953264 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :j's right, what if the fire got time-displaced? < 1380988859 32181 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few minutes ago < 1380988877 545940 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I threw it away, worried that it would disturb neighbors < 1380988903 464308 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It stopped chirping shortly after reaching the dumpster < 1380988996 203654 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, anyone have any suggestions for the Tic Tac Toe language? < 1380989011 189953 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just... threw away your smoke detector? < 1380989024 486639 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes sense. < 1380989038 148747 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much easier than, say, removing the battery. < 1380989044 134510 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you get to buy a new one. < 1380989046 686876 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1380989055 599192 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, what if the old one was faulty? < 1380989067 364226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I tried to remove the battery. I failed. < 1380989075 334466 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it burst into flames... would be ironic, won't it? < 1380989102 431527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Is it legal to throw smoke detectors to normal trash? They contain a small amount of radioactive material, and in this case, also a battery.) < 1380989107 563520 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized how suspicious an uncomfortable-looking person holding a beeping device wrapped in a blanket must seem < 1380989122 538593 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some neighbor saw me on my way to throw it out < 1380989143 494362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: my dad claims yes, so... maybe? < 1380989173 973732 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I come here, I see a lot of smart people...oh look, you're all here too! < 1380989182 885828 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: I got rid of a smoke alarm that emitted a smell of smoking electronics when i powered it up once. < 1380989224 761838 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I left it at a recycling center.) < 1380989229 462358 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am concerned what if there is actually somethign in my apartment triggering it < 1380989251 823358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the other detectors silent? < 1380989270 502667 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: I like the idea of a tic tac toe language. but WHY would you make it a brainfuck derivative? :( < 1380989299 758036 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted other commands, but I didn't have any ideas! < 1380989301 712878 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have/had one detector < 1380989349 800212 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you'd sure as hell know if it was right, and something really is wrong :-) < 1380989359 24134 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: ಠ_ಠ Do you only have one room? < 1380989360 485965 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   ¯|¯⌠ < 1380989360 678322 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69   /< | < 1380989379 202310 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1380989379 347994 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: two rooms. Bathroom, and rest of apartment < 1380989399 259265 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there's a very short hallway leading into the bathroom, so there's a divider wall < 1380989400 135495 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1380989405 97632 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there's a very short hallway leading into the bathroom, so there's a divider wall < 1380989407 268385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1380989413 639384 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :end chorus < 1380989415 428992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I guess kitchen is semi-separate < 1380989446 631292 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: unless alarm misreported CO as fire... < 1380989456 599450 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any other ideas for commands on my tic tac toe board? I do NOT want any more bf derivatives! >:-[ < 1380989484 983424 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's house lacks any sorts of alarm detectors, let alone CO detectors..
< 1380989489 418773 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/alarm/fire/ < 1380989514 518001 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should get some. < 1380989540 760197 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I live in a third world country, heh. < 1380989626 46815 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they expensive? < 1380989640 88898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think every buildin i've ever lived in has had them preinstalled, now that i think about it < 1380989649 134463 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1380989684 170866 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll change it to a stack based language. I will have to have help, though. < 1380989706 826862 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will be the 8 commands? < 1380989766 317079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :already sounds like underload < 1380989823 334327 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if no one will help me, we'll be stuck with this BF derivative forever. < 1380989837 853803 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989841 470387 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989845 92851 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989847 902854 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989850 612176 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989853 670331 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989856 728839 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989859 337393 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989862 458320 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989865 170010 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989867 781226 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989870 465041 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989873 33341 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989875 539983 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989878 63417 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989880 496226 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989883 78129 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989886 15897 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989888 830466 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989891 378883 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989893 654170 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989895 825061 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989898 144518 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989901 82758 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989903 652687 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989907 525124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up. < 1380989908 352341 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ever... < 1380989912 337701 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. < 1380989921 423289 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is there no flood-kicking bot? < 1380989927 261000 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't want a BF derivative. < 1380989934 417126 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because most of us aren't stupid enough to spam the fucking channel. < 1380989936 108768 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380989972 251178 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: C is just a BF derivate :p < 1380989988 284630 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF was a C derivative. < 1380990030 576956 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1380990031 87913 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380990033 542614 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric JWinslow23 :don't flood < 1380990034 786968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1380990034 806216 NAMES :#esoteric < 1380990070 133547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: You just witnessed our fleshy flood-kicking bot in action. < 1380990089 789079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little delayed < 1380990090 782910 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION god was kicked from #earth by Noah [don't flood]
< 1380990120 972161 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean elliott is satan < 1380990129 498168 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1380990138 893268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he’s just Santana and/or Santa. < 1380990139 895166 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380990226 884866 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how did you obtain the power to kick God? what deal have you wrought out? < 1380990401 567101 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1380990534 962242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1380990678 239405 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1380990699 639555 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about the flood, you guys. I promise I won't ever again. < 1380990705 332810 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scout's honor! < 1380990747 552501 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still looking for ideas on how to make TicTacToe stack-based, though. < 1380990818 141048 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any tips? < 1380990871 856888 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1380990885 789710 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had some ideas on how a program may look like, but it isnn't closely based on the game < 1380990911 688261 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1380990937 822877 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you know, I want it to be like the original at least a little bit. < 1380990946 927642 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, each command is made out of 2 numbers that represent a move, moving again on the same spot will remove that mark, the programm terminates if one player has won < 1380990991 290857 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still isn't stack based, though. i also want it to follow the rules of the game. < 1380991013 959254 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you don't throw the checkers board at someone's face, do you? < 1380991350 94620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else would you play? < 1380991403 254698 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1380991424 438858 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: throw the pawns at someone's eyes < 1380991517 117984 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logs fixed. < 1380991586 638146 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380991618 294924 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imagine you've got a checker's game going on < 1380991635 39233 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every pawn carries a value < 1380991658 228299 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pawns that get captured go to the prisoners queue of the appropriate colour < 1380991708 468752 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever a pawn reaches the end row, it gets promoted: a pawn is taken from the appropriate prisoner queue and pushed on it (so it's a stack of pawns) < 1380991744 181057 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that promotion happen not only to single pawns, but to any stack which reaches the end row < 1380991806 970048 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :popping an empty queue presumably returns a fresh pawn with value 0, so that memory isn't limited < 1380991822 564573 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380991849 197816 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the question is: how to program this game? < 1380991890 92880 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be fun if a program was a list of directions, strategies, etc < 1380991900 874160 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the game is played at runtime by a bot following those directions < 1380992001 522217 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sad thing is, currently the number of stacks is limited to the number of pawns initially present on the board, and even though the total number of pawns is unbounded, the number of stacks can never grow, and it will in fact decrease every time a stack is captured < 1380992029 236009 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's okay < 1380992093 965523 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :directions can be of the kind "whenever you can capture, capture" or "if you can promote, promote" or whatever < 1380992106 126756 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380992120 549891 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1380992138 587138 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1380992159 984765 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently, interaction between the two sides can only be done through play; black values are completely independant of white values < 1380992166 995893 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you can give directions that depend on the values < 1380992178 978339 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you probably can < 1380992580 979020 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380992600 696611 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1380992831 378329 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1380993536 257031 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thank you! < 1380993562 967653 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last:u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | this space intentionally left right < 1380993568 455364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1380993612 874030 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/log/sesoteric/ | this space intentionally left right < 1380993800 648914 :ion!ion@heh.fi TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/log/sesoteric/ | this spacetime intentionally left right < 1380994304 683885 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1380994831 182811 :erterrr!~amnesia@thoreau.guilhem.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1380994847 454176 :erterrr!~amnesia@thoreau.guilhem.org PART :#esoteric < 1380995388 60988 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sesoteric? < 1380995409 6880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi? < 1380995415 716723 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :topic? < 1380995416 81219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh in the url < 1380995419 95282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1380995421 776438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutation < 1380995433 466417 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I miss mutation < 1380995491 605933 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu TOPIC #esoteric :fnord, offset fnord (with no evidence) | PDF while supplies last: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | this spacetime intentionally left right < 1380995508 656630 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of mutation? < 1380995534 254457 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardy-weinberg violating mutations < 1380995588 56747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow so you can plug a Firefox OS phone into your computer, open up the Firefox developer tools on the computer, and inspect / debug / mess with the running app on the phone, in realtime < 1380995619 714102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you don't like the background color or whatever you can just fix that < 1380995684 459515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we have a pure JavaScript implementation of Flash which is good enough to play some real games etc, and it's in FF nightly < 1380995702 579691 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive. < 1380995792 319966 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good for a lot of reasons, one of which is that new versions of Adobe Flash on Linux are Chrome-only :/ < 1380995853 920801 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, wow, that's gotta suck. < 1380995856 987713 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can it do the one thing that people actually use Flash for: Play videos < 1380995878 558297 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash should die < 1380995882 83622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash games are popular too < 1380995893 968852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know what the status of video is < 1380995919 823103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it shouldn't be that hard, because you only need to run enough Flash to get a video URL to hand off to the browser's already existing video support < 1380995923 73173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know shit really < 1380995934 851065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that debugging thing I think other things can do too for web sites < 1380995937 31776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course we'd rather people use HTML5 video < 1380995952 510034 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iOS's browser can be hooked up to Safari on Mac < 1380995973 942207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but you can do it for any FxOS app, because they're all using Web tech < 1380995981 136959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the cool part imo < 1380995994 910383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1380996118 325343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yep < 1380996985 127193 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1380997022 422644 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1380997511 124386 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 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:Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381001736 114871 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381001925 129527 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1381002037 761187 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381002353 500060 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381002547 243703 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381002564 363542 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1381002582 208069 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381003106 469688 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you share my intuition that a hash trie where each node is refcounted would have terrible performance? < 1381003138 401493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a concurrent setting anyway) < 1381003146 914986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to making every node 1 word bigger + atomic ops overhead + loss of cacheline sharing < 1381003151 596538 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381003183 662624 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381003273 18535 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is searching for a copy of CoreMaster by Think Software. Zero hits from Google, so I might struggle...
< 1381003290 55474 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what sort of structure would it be replacing? < 1381003470 738250 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a specific application in mind, but the advantage over a flat hash table is that you get pure-functional update / cheap snapshotting, and the advantage over a simple search tree is that it's a lot faster < 1381003518 935305 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if it's mostly read, and rarely written to, it'd be okay, right? < 1381003532 574876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1381003533 666172 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that'd be a hash table where you can easily remove things, right...? < 1381003541 816371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in that case you could also consider copying a flat hash table < 1381003576 61247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the unique thing is more that your add/modify/remove operations give you a "new" datastructure (which mostly shares nodes with the old) rather than modifying in place < 1381003580 98959 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381003593 621601 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work O_O < 1381003604 76949 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't each node have like, pointers to its child nodes and stuff? < 1381003607 436251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381003610 706079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know how it works for a plain binary search tree? < 1381003618 150302 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381003623 800918 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I guess you replace the node you're changing, and all of its parents? < 1381003630 3477 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you implement a BST in Haskell in the most naive way, you get this for free ^_^ < 1381003632 996828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381003644 769744 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you end up modifying... log(N) of the tree nodes if it's balenced? < 1381003645 727965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the tree is balanced, you copy only O(log n) data < 1381003646 523213 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*balanced < 1381003647 496100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1381003666 493028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a hash trie is a tree where instead of going left/right based on a pairwise comparison, you go left/right based on the bits of a hash output < 1381003680 247001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and furthermore you probably want a 16- or 32-way fanout instead of 2-way < 1381003705 974586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and furthermore most of those 16 or 32 pointers will be NULL most of the time, so you can use clever bit tricks to store nodes sparsely < 1381003719 846529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fit each node into a cache line < 1381003734 604184 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes is pretty big for a node, isn't it? or am I missing something < 1381003759 692838 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bytes is a cache line, isn't it? < 1381003771 795233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or fit multiple nodes in a cache line, I guess < 1381003781 941509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you take care that they're aligned, anyway < 1381003796 241648 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there'd only becontention if you had multiple nodes in a cacheline, right? < 1381003889 530983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean with refcounting? < 1381003919 796767 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean contention with like, multiple threads updating a single node at the same time? not cacheline contention with like, multiple nodes being modified in the same cacheline < 1381003934 506787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is that when you do a functional update, you need to bump the refcount on the nodes you're reusing (even though you aren't modifying them at a semantic level), and this will kill sharing of that cacheline between cores < 1381003938 489444 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381003949 303082 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh. but doesn't that mean modifying the trie is O(N)? < 1381003958 398247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nodes will bounce between caches in exclusive mode, instead of being shared, which is what you would want from ostensible immutable data < 1381003959 227152 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you have to modify O(N-log(N)) nodes' refcounts < 1381003969 218477 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I totally wrong here < 1381003976 755549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think no, because you only count immediate referants not transitive referants < 1381003992 279301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the child of a node you're reusing already has a refcount from its parent < 1381004019 451822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're creating O(log n) new nodes that refer to some old ones < 1381004038 77478 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, so you update the refcounts on all the children of your new nodes? < 1381004039 742419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to bump the refcount on all the old nodes < 1381004041 645691 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, immediate children < 1381004046 109863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think so < 1381004052 320216 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all the old nodes... okay that sorta makes sense < 1381004064 995928 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's log(N) * some constant refcount updates and log(N) new nodes ish? < 1381004083 236067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1381004124 151754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though a 16-fanout hash trie over a 64-bit hash will have a maximum depth of 4, anyway < 1381004147 803478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have 16-fanout, isn't that just 4 bits? < 1381004148 920366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I shouldn't say O(log N) < 1381004161 690886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, I can't count < 1381004165 752328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depth of 16 then < 1381004176 597310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's 4 orders of magnitude between friends < 1381004192 677082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely nothing. Here, have a flower: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131005-flower.jpg < 1381004204 736351 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just wanted an excuse to share the photo.) < 1381004214 251861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1381004217 410323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind is it? < 1381004233 949979 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe instead of addrefing the new children you could just addref the old node you copied < 1381004239 209755 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :that overcounts one reference to something you've removed from the new tree, but you can fix that later < 1381004245 850763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1381004246 772856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. I think I was told, but I've forgotten already. < 1381004268 227976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: do you then need to keep a pointer to the old node so you can collect it when the new one goes away? < 1381004288 108748 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wave hands until reaching a working algorithm) < 1381004321 361826 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you'd probably need another pointer somewhere < 1381004329 356429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Oxford University Flower Recognition Demo actually maybe even recognized it, I think: http://zeus.robots.ox.ac.uk:8080/flower_demo/demo_result?id=3152 < 1381004335 549047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the first hit looks quite similar. < 1381004356 385130 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381004367 497278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, not the first, the fourth. < 1381004383 610274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah that's a thing? < 1381004418 46661 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381004434 885020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Their picture was the first hit in a Google "search by image" query, that's how I found it. < 1381004452 422654 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381004455 800729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(First time that was useful for anything.) < 1381004576 300478 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381004643 744052 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381004654 832354 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381004662 961247 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1381004970 625791 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381005125 155326 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381005346 404390 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381005383 245249 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381005611 207475 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381005617 170298 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381005876 58999 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381005876 995655 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381005895 629658 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381005904 765452 :AnotherT-!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be NICK :AnotherTest < 1381006058 773805 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381006096 618656 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381006590 947859 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone here got access to the Tamiment Library at New York Uni? < 1381007154 239922 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381007178 523608 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Excess Flood < 1381007218 150189 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381007298 960553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty specific question < 1381007300 847291 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run WeLcOmE Zuu | rainwords < 1381007307 749094 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4ZuU: 7wElCoMe 8tO 9ThE 2InTeRnAtIoNaL 13HuB 6FoR 4EsOtErIc 7pRoGrAmMiNg 8lAnGuAgE 9DeSiGn 2aNd 13dEpLoYmEnT! 6fOr 4mOrE 7InFoRmAtIoN, 8cHeCk 9oUt 2oUr 13wIkI: 6hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 4(FoR 7ThE 8OtHeR 9KiNd 2oF 13EsOtErIcA, 6tRy 4#EsOtErIc 7oN 8IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1381007521 207282 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "WeLcOmE $* | rainwords" > bin/ReLcOmE < 1381007525 326335 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381007536 609753 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`chmod 755 bin/ReLcOmE < 1381007537 881446 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :chmod: missing operand after `755 bin/ReLcOmE' \ Try `chmod --help' for more information. < 1381007544 21420 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod 755 bin/ReLcOmE < 1381007548 45435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381007597 47369 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Hello World! < 1381007598 155144 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1381007612 559899 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cls < 1381007613 888624 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cls: not found < 1381007624 664884 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1381007635 524406 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn cls is a command to clear the screen. < 1381007641 176802 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381007651 230186 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help wisdom < 1381007651 480864 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1381007660 468388 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1381007662 54349 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1381007683 299616 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like most interactive systems, this thing has like four separate help systems, the distinction of which is obscure < 1381007689 536415 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cls wisdom < 1381007690 762543 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: cls: not found < 1381007695 455662 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wisdom cls < 1381007697 109690 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: wisdom: not found < 1381007710 689048 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`How do you access wisdom? < 1381007712 94625 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: How: not found < 1381007715 502214 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ? < 1381007718 424794 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1381007718 594853 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cls < 1381007721 82830 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1381007721 228348 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cls is a command to clear the screen. < 1381007731 598559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ? < 1381007733 417732 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​? is wisdom < 1381007744 436427 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1381007744 996444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that would actually have been helpful in this context. < 1381007746 672437 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere < 1381007747 87455 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381007749 49560 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381007884 492654 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ørjan < 1381007886 669497 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Ørjan is oerjan's good twin. He's banned in the IRC RFC for being an invalid character. Sometimes he publishes papers. < 1381007893 449691 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381007953 630027 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ even though IRCNet allows #øæ’jµ it doesn't allow nick ørjan < 1381007956 570785 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the Uni Library has a one of a kind item in their collection I'm interested in. < 1381007973 949289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1381007980 107772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering. i don't have access. < 1381007993 675653 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the holy grail < 1381008017 785656 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cls < 1381008019 965958 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cls is a command to clear the screen. < 1381008052 83881 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wisdom < 1381008054 406801 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom is always factually accurate, except for this entry, and uh that other one? it started with like, an ø? < 1381008069 145674 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? WeLcOmE < 1381008071 434435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1381008096 311312 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ClS < 1381008098 588514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cls is a command to clear the screen. < 1381008103 518289 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1381008112 85838 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ø < 1381008114 188786 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere < 1381008122 789454 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Batch is a language that uses the command cls. < 1381008127 205407 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381008134 941812 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Batch < 1381008136 719578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Batch is a language that uses the command cls. < 1381008173 742168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i just realized that indiana jones should probably have taken the grail solely for its archaelogical value, irrespective of the moral choice thing. < 1381008176 579509 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ø is not going anywhere. < 1381008182 586163 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381008191 93877 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ø < 1381008192 851822 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ø is not going anywhere. < 1381008193 471525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, i mean, in the forties. archaelogists still basically stole crap back then i think < 1381008220 293037 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn Humphrey Bogart is a cousin to Lady Di. < 1381008225 796904 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381008234 9531 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Humphrey Bogart < 1381008235 786196 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humphrey Bogart? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008249 608798 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Humphrey < 1381008251 619978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humphrey Bogart is a cousin to Lady Di. < 1381008260 634558 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? aah < 1381008262 711329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :aah ambiguous acronym here < 1381008269 185394 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1381008272 773892 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nah < 1381008274 896073 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no ambiguity here < 1381008278 407514 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1381008278 951734 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nimby < 1381008280 683579 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nimby? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008292 127393 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? HackEgo < 1381008294 54319 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381008294 238663 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, also known as HackBot, is a bot that runs arbitrary commands on Unix. See `help for info on using it. You should totally try to hax0r it! Make sure you imagine it's running as root with no sandboxing. < 1381008300 423114 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? NIMBY : Not in my backyard < 1381008302 46748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIMBY : Not in my backyard? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008314 188661 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1381008318 624265 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381008322 840777 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`NIMBY < 1381008324 271012 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: NIMBY: not found < 1381008327 141009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? NIMBY < 1381008329 235572 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1381008329 636118 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? NIMBY < 1381008331 649429 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1381008336 888840 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIMBY : Not in my backyard? < 1381008349 384483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAVE People : Citizens Against Virtually Everything < 1381008374 931306 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BANANA: Build absolutely nothing anywhere near anybody < 1381008394 756884 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTL: Go to (the) loo < 1381008395 147992 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381008407 460853 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? rainwords < 1381008409 377013 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rainwords? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008429 160991 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008429 684564 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69           | < 1381008429 881410 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         º¯`\o < 1381008431 51341 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯ `? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008443 595994 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381008443 741627 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, elliot: They have some negatives from a Core War tournament < 1381008452 23422 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381008454 162676 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008458 748308 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, like, photos? < 1381008472 456083 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? < 1381008474 536871 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008498 704894 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn ¯\(°_o)/¯ ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008499 172216 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                |          |          | < 1381008499 355961 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69              º¯`\o      º¯`\o      º¯`\o < 1381008500 881190 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/learn: line 4: wisdom/: Is a directory \ I knew that. < 1381008508 344215 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23, what the fuck are you playing at < 1381008511 915063 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯? < 1381008512 250654 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69            |          | < 1381008512 446125 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69          o/`¯º      o/`¯º < 1381008513 717726 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ¯\(°_o)/¯? ¯\(°_o)/¯?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381008518 184515 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1381008520 949005 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. I have an archive or Core War stuff. Am trying to find as much as possible before it disappears forever. < 1381008528 145106 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1381008528 632637 NAMES :#esoteric < 1381008532 596592 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +qq HackEgo!*@* :myndzi!*@* > 1381008532 619174 NAMES :#esoteric < 1381008534 400171 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make a quine in the shell thing, Phantom Hoover! < 1381008549 709206 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines < 1381008556 192298 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to do spammy things with the bots, do them in /query < 1381008561 738460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Right. < 1381008564 832825 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm good at this. < 1381008570 873002 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1381008574 31120 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I'm doing the same for other programming games, e.g. Darwin and RobotWar. < 1381008590 712142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -qqo HackEgo!*@* myndzi!*@* :elliott > 1381008590 728217 NAMES :#esoteric < 1381008591 203824 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381008621 133788 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381008637 504145 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: have you contacted the library? maybe they can just like, scan it for you. < 1381008641 586186 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ReLcOmE Zuu < 1381008644 937714 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​9WeLcOmE 2To 13tHe 6iNtErNaTiOnAl 4hUb 7fOr 8eSoTeRiC 9PrOgRaMmInG 2LaNgUaGe 13dEsIgN 6AnD 4DePlOyMeNt! 7FoR 8MoRe 9iNfOrMaTiOn, 2ChEcK 13OuT 6OuR 4WiKi: 7HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. 8(fOr 9tHe 2oThEr 13kInD 6Of 4eSoTeRiCa, 7TrY 8#eSoTeRiC 9On 2iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1381008661 586887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381008681 929429 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :------ < 1381008687 363090 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, i did it! < 1381008699 624479 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just ask what `? is. < 1381008702 773203 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381008704 777817 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `? < 1381008740 575269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines < 1381008742 6023 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: quines: Is a directory < 1381008745 941638 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1381008747 432348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines < 1381008749 424504 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat \ perl \ python \ q \ ruby < 1381008754 328818 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls quines/cat < 1381008756 307628 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :quines/cat < 1381008759 834508 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/cat < 1381008761 334561 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381008803 70599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi JWinslow23 < 1381008854 889866 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey! < 1381008860 551405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo q; cat quines/cat < 1381008862 55263 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :q < 1381008868 709719 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping it actually said "No output." < 1381008888 964426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1381008940 150879 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat quines/cat < 1381008941 685578 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381008981 378694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it'd still be a quine if it did, ofc < 1381008990 543557 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: will be sending an email. Just need to write a decent description of the project. < 1381009010 599867 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: thanks < 1381009010 850371 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my poopish connection is being poopish again :( < 1381009058 701585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :popeish connection < 1381009104 247556 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `echo `echo < 1381009105 965660 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`echo `echo < 1381009114 370894 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What to do, what to do... < 1381009299 736713 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381009302 52706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `? < 1381009307 970324 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? `? `? < 1381009313 75767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381009318 410109 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? `? < 1381009319 952232 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `?? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381009331 480903 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn `? `? < 1381009335 719421 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381009338 658891 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381009340 713416 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `? < 1381009348 353913 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! Got it to work. < 1381009375 553692 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you are bored, aren't you? < 1381009396 808415 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Yyp. < 1381009397 976756 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yyp. < 1381009409 438410 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo YUP! Sorry about that. < 1381009410 882076 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :YUP! Sorry about that. < 1381009442 847136 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have any suggestions for making Tic Tac Toe (my language) stack based? < 1381009452 266756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a suggestion < 1381009472 298499 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :0) Add a stack < 1381009492 712207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it the cable, the monitor, or the motherboard that is causing the bad video? < 1381009494 694955 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes, but what 8 commands can I use for stack manipulation? < 1381009495 116772 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: :D < 1381009511 287267 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: +-><[],. :p < 1381009531 965306 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :push, pop, swap, dup... < 1381009532 808282 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is my OLD command set! < 1381009542 645945 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname's anyway. < 1381009557 38768 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen, you may be hitting on something! < 1381009560 328070 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pop any page from http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Stack-based < 1381009575 424470 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rip off what's there and make a copy and post it < 1381009580 304406 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 - * DUP there are others too < 1381009581 176534 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouuuuuuuh < 1381009598 83517 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am! Just need something with 8 commands. I haven't found that yet, though. < 1381009609 57969 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how +-><[],. is a valid "head -c 1" program < 1381009626 788331 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: huh? < 1381009646 589200 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how many different programs you can get from anagrams of the 8 brainfuck commands < 1381009648 31409 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The +-><[] is irrelevant < 1381009667 621568 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They cancel each other out and [] is nothing when the value is already zero < 1381009680 247849 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: apparently i know somebody who has access. < 1381009719 308227 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :,.-[>+<] everythign relevant < 1381009808 381869 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: if > means "push 0" and < means "pop" then +-><[],. are the commands for a stack-based language < 1381009853 366229 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__: that shouldn't be turing complete < 1381009866 204413 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1381009875 454662 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where would you pop to? < 1381009885 96704 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don’t pop where you eat. < 1381009886 167483 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to Neverland < 1381009889 452945 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... < 1381009895 600398 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what now? < 1381009930 450211 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>[,+.-] enterprise brainfuck encryption < 1381009938 479711 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe there are two stacks and > and < just means "pop from a to push onto b" and vice versa < 1381009942 885164 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is basically brainfuck < 1381009959 421520 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turing complete < 1381009974 190964 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming popping an empty stack gives a zero < 1381009983 83567 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, gives something, anyway) < 1381010023 630597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I interpreted your [,+.-] loop as just being a caesar cipher that adds 1 to every codepoint < 1381010036 491672 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems pretty much like enterprise brainfuck encryption to me < 1381010052 460867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be made some esolang that is Turing complete if transcendental numbers are allowed and not Turing complete if it isn't? < 1381010055 184750 :Zuu__!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381010063 756858 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381010089 273086 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post on the talk page. I will play Monopoly. < 1381010091 535547 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381010095 928128 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :making such an esolang is your task now, zzo38 < 1381010098 58128 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to call it that, but i predicted someone would point out how it doesn't properly wrap Z to A < 1381010112 235317 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well if they're feeling generous, they're in box 26b, shoot 300030. ;-) < 1381010113 772905 :Zuu__!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1381010135 398372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot? < 1381010151 779930 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about making a language that only has half-bits as data types < 1381010204 122476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably have a better understanding of how fractional bits work. < 1381010215 200204 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the way the reference negatives I think! < 1381010216 371850 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google turkey bomb cat's eye < 1381010217 415645 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/node/TURKEY%20BOMB.html < 1381010217 561074 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: TURKEY BOMB | Cat's Eye Technologies < 1381010250 207056 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: my basic idea was to say "half-bit b is the oposite of half-bit a" and so making a decidable full bit < 1381010257 337360 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is catseye working again, then? < 1381010259 612915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hooking you up with some random undergrad probably won't help you out < 1381010341 485 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: is that like quantum entanglement? < 1381010347 169947 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if you have two particles A and B, and you know they have opposite spins < 1381010354 625012 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have one bit of information about A and B, so half a bit about each, right < 1381010366 943124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :knowing what a number in 0-9 is exactly is ln 10 bits of information, right? < 1381010384 245500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, integer < 1381010391 841616 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yeah, but if you don't declare b the opposite of a and you ask of the value of a you either get 1 or it doesn't terminate < 1381010403 597662 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :semi-decidable < 1381010418 793118 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the problem is you're asking for a bit out of a half-bit there, no? < 1381010424 855215 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so of course it doesn't necessarily terminate, it isn't a total operation < 1381010430 50017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: log_2, surely? < 1381010441 306999 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow why did i think ln meant log 2, yes, log 2 < 1381010469 602980 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could argue that the natural log should be the one that's most natural given the context. < 1381010478 540730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to, though. < 1381010488 350172 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well, if the opposite of a semi-decidable language is semi-decisable, then the language itself is decidable and so should be the bit < 1381010507 876367 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the natural log always the most natural < 1381010552 180758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural log is best log < 1381010590 763536 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so knowing the value of a nonnegative integer less than the square root of two should be half a bit of information. clearly. i've got this down. < 1381010625 134683 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 0 to 9 is more than 1 bit < 1381010658 94008 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's log2 10 bits, i said. < 1381010662 493443 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractional bits has me thinking of arithmetic coding -_- < 1381010854 230831 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of makes sense intuitively, since knowing the value of the third bit of a nonnegative integer less than ten is useless if the other three bits are 111, or 110, or 101, or 100, or 011, or 010, but not if they're 001 or 000. < 1381010945 195385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also thought of fraction bits of information, but I have also tried to think of programming with negative number of bits of information, too. < 1381011052 593120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: now figure out negative bits. < 1381011078 318748 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: knowing the naked appearance of a united states supreme court justice. < 1381011140 884604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or: the value of a nonnegative integer less than 1/x has -x bits. < 1381011141 880710 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so easy. < 1381011252 553757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 1/2^x? < 1381011261 399610 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever. < 1381011281 400480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the negative bits thing in TURKEY BOMB is easy enough to figure out < 1381011298 264646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a negative-bits value, then it requires more storage to represent in anything that contains everything except that value < 1381011309 204765 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right, you just don't use a uniform distribution. < 1381011497 951555 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x is discretely uniformly distributed between 0 and 9, the third bit is zero with 80% probability, and the second is zero with 40%, bla bla bla. < 1381011507 752575 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for permitting me to go over this stupid basic stuff < 1381011526 142985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :60%* < 1381011582 396771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that works for fractional amount of bits between 0 and 1 < 1381011598 825841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1381011681 20975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: using weighted probabilities to get values with less than a bit < 1381011700 610745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd have a negative number of bits in storage in something that was 120% likely to be a 0, and -20% likely to be a 1 < 1381011727 999175 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how sensible < 1381011737 654655 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: negative probabilities. quick say something quantum < 1381011817 206030 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so we just need more people to give it 120% if we want to store negative bits? < 1381011818 894711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well negative bits don't really make sense < 1381011830 305712 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *110% < 1381011834 136639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had enough negative-sized files, you could just store a load of them to free up disk space < 1381011871 452648 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good, and i forgot that the bits aren't independently distributed. i am terrible today. < 1381011981 406915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reasonably sure negative information is a used concept. maybe only conditional information, though. < 1381012022 136467 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only in quantum. great < 1381012071 992802 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381012087 229679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The negative conditional entropy is also known as the coherent information, and gives the additional number of bits above the classical limit that can be transmitted in a quantum dense coding protocol" and here we run into the famous "bike doesn't know know quantum" paradox of einstein's < 1381012176 594298 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381012200 129622 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381012347 769994 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dan simmons has this nice "use the word 'quantum' whenever you don't feel like explaining how it works" paradigm < 1381012474 269036 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thinki have shannon's paper lying around somewhere. i could just read it. < 1381012811 168517 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381013051 102440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381013181 284725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : onfail $ run $ head -10 "README" < 1381013199 168558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (onfail (run (head -10 "README"))) < 1381013224 294358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is this? technically haskell does that but -10 doesn't work sensibly for it. < 1381013259 936352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because the - is binary subtraction) < 1381013307 383985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks there should be a flag for people who have been idle for hours.
< 1381013308 67739 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it? I thought that was one of those horrible bits of odd syntax < 1381013311 209182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course I don't remember which direction it was odd < 1381013327 992133 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type -10 < 1381013328 887160 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Num a => a < 1381013341 76078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: There is in ifMUD (although you can disable this feature). In IRC you can check using WHOIS. < 1381013344 213608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the odd part is that (- 10) is unary minus, and not a section using the binary one. < 1381013407 668509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by flag i mean something that shows up in the initial channel listing. < 1381013420 683901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like @ or + < 1381013438 388418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@like @ or + do < 1381013438 533855 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: wiki time list elite dice cide < 1381013439 478848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the NAMES list? < 1381013485 802265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hm well i guess irssi probably sends a NAMES command to get it. < 1381013506 843328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that. < 1381013544 506927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is also received when you join the channel, automatically) < 1381013569 939880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You can push NAMES to make it receive even afterward, though.) < 1381013626 740689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1381013684 688984 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is like the stupidest thing youtube has done so far... It decided to start all videos muted as of late afternoon today. < 1381013685 111801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the idea of a new kind of trainer card for use in Pokemon card game: Pick one card from your trash, hand, or an energy attached to one of your cards in play, and put it with your side cards. You cannot use this if you already have six side cards. < 1381013703 459798 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Any Lispy language that allows sweet-exprs < 1381013710 420938 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Prize cards? < 1381013720 214309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes. < 1381013797 240612 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet exprs. ok. < 1381013799 457162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: does that include the preceding ad? if so that will be a feature for me :D < 1381013809 349070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "sweet-exprs"? < 1381013846 985982 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://readable.sourceforge.net/ < 1381013849 750482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Hm, no idea, I have been watching ad-free channels most of the afternoon < 1381013870 679868 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain to me so I don't have to open it right now? I will open to read later. < 1381013876 785082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hey, I got that too. < 1381013896 369354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you could try adblock btw, though of course if you do, that would prevent the independent creators from getting those 0.01 cents from your view or whatever < 1381013899 765762 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, more syntax arguments < 1381013902 964805 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, really? How to fix < 1381013927 601635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No idea. (Took me a moment staring at alsamixer settings wondering what's wrong before noticing the youtube-level mute.) < 1381013929 247403 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: a reader-level pass that takes something like {a + b + c} and turns it to (+ a b c), for example < 1381013935 363944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: is there adblock for IE? < 1381013942 712513 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: O, that's what you mean. < 1381013944 421208 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no clue < 1381013963 993656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only takes a "friendlier" (by someone's standards) syntax and converts it in a straightforward way to s-exprs < 1381013973 643861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "Thanks for your patience, all. We have been aware of this issue. It should be resolved soon. < 1381013975 77153 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No semantic interpretation is done < 1381013976 646534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :While this issue is live, please try clearing your browser's cache and cookies, --" < 1381013983 438394 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that just a parser? < 1381013985 226984 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Writes someone on the Google product forums.) < 1381013992 595375 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ... seriously? Heh < 1381014005 576705 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I guess? < 1381014011 71362 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would assume you would need to clear the flash cookie thingies < 1381014012 982560 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :into sexps instead of asts, i guee. < 1381014108 266746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the {} seems like a really good idea for math stuff. The indentation stuff freaks me out a bit < 1381014157 807737 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really get why "readable lisp" is such a persistent idea. i mean, have you ever read a math paper, the notation is worse than any programming language. < 1381014163 792091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not important anyway. < 1381014184 609260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think all of mathematical notation is necessarily so bad. < 1381014195 282935 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully i'll never have to hear somebody say SVO is natural for huans ever again. < 1381014233 980934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: even apl? < 1381014238 310235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I don't think Lisp and Forth and so on have really bad syntax even though some people says it is. < 1381014251 901287 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ? < 1381014272 674952 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is math worse than even apl? < 1381014314 4848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way I figure it, math needs its own typesetting programming language, and no programming language i know of does. < 1381014327 40235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite possible this is comparing apples and oranges, but... < 1381014343 843336 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an SFRI in 'final' status for the infix stuff < 1381014349 18222 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SRFI < 1381014608 582842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind of card I described above, can have a lot of possible uses. (However, it is usually pretty worthless by themself.) < 1381014628 185372 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a potential confusion < 1381014646 396112 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :{a get-new-op() b get-new-op() c} < 1381014659 24632 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(get-new-op) is only present once in what that expands to < 1381014682 866103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :((get-new-op) a b c) < 1381014692 292419 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, did clearing the cache work? < 1381014743 893355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Taneb i suggest staying away from IngSoc < 1381014744 78483 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381014900 569946 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: should be ((begin (get-new-op) (get-new-op)) a b c), clearly. < 1381014948 41017 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually kind of interesting though, i suppose it means no associativity. < 1381014998 161607 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't. There's also no operator mixing like {a + b - c} unless you define a macro... it expands to ($nfx$ a + b - c) < 1381015075 807538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the best way to define an ordering in SQL so that you can insert a record in between two specified records (even if some records are deleted before that happens)? < 1381015089 480576 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean associativity in scheme in general. like, (op) can always return an associative operator, and yet you can have ((op) ((op) a b) c) != ((op) a ((op) b c)). < 1381015122 781672 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, if you don't specify any "ORDER BY" clause, sql results are "unordered" < 1381015143 809643 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if you do have ORDER BY, just make a value at the position you want < 1381015152 336070 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e.: no, you can't < 1381015379 957188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I know that; I mean to define the collation of the field and the function to make it create these ordering values, and then you can use ORDER BY that field. < 1381015425 373108 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1381015429 239829 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381015488 443489 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :print("Hello world!") < 1381015529 875704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :print("hakkkashdfhanuipioquqqqquiusakdfjii10") < 1381015591 604241 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? JWinslow23 < 1381015593 630014 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF. < 1381015668 28629 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381015788 621728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do you know how to do this, then? < 1381015828 409973 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381015943 753627 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381015961 142426 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381015994 144452 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload: < 1381015994 867501 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1381016004 476208 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prints its own source ocde. < 1381016016 838395 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CODE! Dang you autocorrect! < 1381016016 983803 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1381016017 129323 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aSS):aSS < 1381016035 336554 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunate it mentions @$$ < 1381016087 326706 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (:aS(:^S^:)Sa:):^S^:(:aS(:^S^:)Sa:) < 1381016087 472328 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:aS(:^S^:)Sa:):^S^:(:aS(:^S^:)Sa:) < 1381016107 507947 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Hello, World!)S < 1381016107 653276 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1381016115 57040 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1381016115 235836 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1381016121 931577 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help lang < 1381016122 77048 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1381016132 570179 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the available languages are bf and ul, it says. < 1381016138 110279 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1381016142 750686 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't read it. < 1381016148 836014 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skimmed through. < 1381016159 158628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, you skimmed one line huh < 1381016163 620793 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[] < 1381016168 966102 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1381016175 749592 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, perfect... < 1381016212 210835 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[[.+]+] < 1381016212 394691 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
 .. !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~�������������������������������������������������������������������������������� ... < 1381016223 638371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1381016232 174230 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Wow. < 1381016284 378772 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,. < 1381016284 524434 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1381016295 468790 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you input? < 1381016298 779970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait how does that even work < 1381016310 244427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!Like this < 1381016310 389854 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this < 1381016333 231498 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.!Oh, I see. < 1381016333 418113 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1381016360 326711 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]~Oh, yeah. Anything over 1 requires loop. < 1381016375 840665 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!Oh, yeah. Anything over 1 requires loop. < 1381016375 986260 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah. Anything over 1 requires loop. < 1381016382 372838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381016382 518272 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yeah. Anything over 1 requires loop. < 1381016390 786505 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks.
< 1381016400 678401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381016400 824018 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inks.
< 1381016408 966941 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1381016411 49808 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381016411 195214 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inks.
< 1381016412 21449 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381016412 166845 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inks.
< 1381016423 225246 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381016423 370633 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :inks.
< 1381016429 651234 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inks? WTF? < 1381016444 300355 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reached a fixpoint < 1381016448 756902 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[] < 1381016453 979865 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...out of time! < 1381016469 368572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inks, as in the end of my message ^Ablinks.^A < 1381016470 900127 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, the fixpoint out of time < 1381016471 459627 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: gmane even has a chance of comming back to it and then complain that it `does not work'. < 1381016528 512968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think we found a new fungot bug < 1381016529 640100 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but i'd say haskell introduces extra semantics, then. i'm surprised he doesn't have to be a bit less silly. i can feel it. < 1381016555 167565 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ->+>+++>>+>++>+>+++>>+>++>>>+>+>+>++>+>>>>+++>+>>++>+>+++>>++>++>>+>>+>++>++>+>>>>+++>+>>>>++>++>>>>+>>++>+>+++>>>++>>++++++>>+>>++>+>>>>+++>>+++++>>+>+++>>>++>>++>>+>>++>+>+++>>>++>>+++++++++++++>>+>>++>+>+++>+>+++>>>++>>++++>>+>>++>+>>>>+++>>+++++>>>>++>>>>+>+>++>>+++>+>>>>+++>+>>>>+++>+>>>>+++>>++>++>+>+++>+>++>++>>>>>>++>+>+++>>>>>+++>>>++>+>+++>+>+>++>>>>>>++>>>+>>>++>+>>>>+++>+>>>+>>++>+>++++++++++++++++++>>>>+>+>>>+>>+ < 1381016574 715927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a bug? if fungot does it, surely it must be a feature < 1381016575 664877 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 19:05 is a funny gmt time to get to the code that implements the foo interface exports the bindings foo1, foo2 and foo3". when i reload it goes to things that exist outside the actor with unique names with the limited input/ output < 1381016610 489940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: irc lines have a < 510 byte limit (which includes some stuff other than the message.) < 1381016625 913772 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. Wanted to see a quine. < 1381016630 345948 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do some compression! < 1381016631 478720 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll make one myself! < 1381016655 57494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: fungot's ^str command is to get around that, although it's awkward to use. < 1381016655 391049 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: though it would be something wrong otherwise. that's how i roll. < 1381016765 227946 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf [,>][<]>[.>][<]>[.>]!test < 1381016786 685280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1381016815 243443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, buddy, speak to me. < 1381016815 624825 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you can do computation with syntax-rules using cps or using other macros ( or non-hygienic low-level macros) wouldn't you have to on solaris < 1381016844 654288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fail to see the connection between Solaris and computation at macroexpansion time, fungot. < 1381016845 194213 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i was just busy planning lea's demise of laidback because of its cgi infrastructure. i'm more than halfway through this, i'll be willing to change, and so < 1381016870 537495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see, no output for me. < 1381016872 546270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[[.,]+] < 1381016872 691797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : output for me.































































































































































































... < 1381016882 902944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[,>][<]>[.>][<]>[.>]!test < 1381016890 537375 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, no. < 1381016892 702660 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so bad at this. < 1381016924 512585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fungot < 1381016925 27261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: one more thing cl stores in symbols, right? but computing the hash value in the middle of interviewing for a job right now, < 1381016929 270696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it doesn't read past the NUL < 1381016943 286936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's definitely getting that job < 1381016943 488130 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: makes it too easy to spot < 1381016949 601498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if forced to use , < 1381016964 311612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1381016972 154437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you an ascomycete or a basidiomycete < 1381016972 342768 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but i already wrote to marc about it. < 1381016973 181291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +[,[.,]+] < 1381016976 230186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want something that reads to newline and then prints it twice. < 1381016979 313805 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :u an ascomycete or a basidiomycete ...out of time! < 1381016988 542858 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1381016992 158776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so... input is from the last message? < 1381016995 723765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,. < 1381016995 869224 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1381016997 828027 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1381016999 30030 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yep < 1381017000 861143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun < 1381017001 6749 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your welcome < 1381017012 376403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++[,[.,]+] < 1381017014 813847 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody exploit this to find fizzie's porn stash < 1381017018 739538 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ge? ...out of time! < 1381017053 438545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or rather, from the last message to go beyond the space taken by the ^bf message < 1381017071 878581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen ACTION smacks kmc < 1381017076 53586 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​181 ++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++>++>++++++++<<<<-]>>-----.++.<.>++++++.++++++.-.>++++.>+++.------.<<+++++++++++++++++++.++.++++++++.++++++++.>.>--.++.----------.<----------------------. [296] < 1381017090 959613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +.>++++++++++++++[>++++++>+++++>++>++++++++<<<<-]>>-----.++.<.>++++++.++++++.-.>++++.>+++.------.<<+++++++++++++++++++.++.++++++++.++++++++.>.>--.++.----------.<----------------------.>[-]+. < 1381017091 105220 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smacks kmc.
< 1381017095 656964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1381017098 54194 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is beautiful < 1381017112 997246 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautiful and smacktacular < 1381017153 531795 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still working on it! < 1381017236 44566 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did it output a trailing period < 1381017237 762452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[>,]<[<]>[.>]!test < 1381017237 907732 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1381017249 117946 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: !bf_txtgen apparently always appends a period. < 1381017252 982419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckers < 1381017261 409788 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :straight up. < 1381017271 463837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :icy hot stuntaz < 1381017277 678818 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[>,]<[<]>[.>]<[<]>[.>]!test < 1381017277 824669 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :testtest < 1381017292 902478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[>,]<[<]>[.>]<[<]>[.>]!,[>,]<[<]>[.>]<[<]>[.>]! < 1381017293 48028 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[>,]<[<]>[.>]<[<]>[.>]!,[>,]<[<]>[.>]<[<]>[.>]! < 1381017302 403659 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: (lol) < 1381017312 18661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no, it appends a newline, which fungot turns into a period. < 1381017312 762896 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: or we could do it rici's way but then i have an idea for a programming language of .net". f includes extensions for working across languages, and accepts everything from c++ to pythong to perl to whatever else can tie into it. < 1381017320 932156 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whichever! < 1381017358 766687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who runs EgoBot anyway, i could yell at them slash ask about txtgen's algorithm. < 1381017374 846931 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea how, but still working! < 1381017380 537558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen QUIT seeya suckers < 1381017382 785452 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​192 +++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>++++++.++++.>--.+++++++++++.>>++.<-----.<<++++++++++++++++..>>++++++.<+++++++++++++.>>.<------.++.<++.++++++++.<.>>---.+.>----------------------. [687] < 1381017403 834630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++.---.>+++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>++++++.++++.>--.+++++++++++.>>++.<-----.<<++++++++++++++++..>>++++++.<+++++++++++++.>>.<------.++.<++.++++++++.<.>>---.+.>----------------------. < 1381017404 18403 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :..QUIT seeya suckers. < 1381017412 782459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :smooth < 1381017415 184439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1381017446 114699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's not txtgen's fault, EgoBot just doesn't strip the final newline from input to commands, while fungot does. < 1381017446 389246 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hello world!"? if so, sorry, haha. i was talking about < 1381017446 534788 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: i meant, i wrote a "quine". < 1381017449 20169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1381017471 351877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also you can use `interp bf_txtgen on HackEgo < 1381017473 902307 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm willing to shift my blame to egobot. < 1381017480 738863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`interp bf_txtgen test < 1381017492 736926 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :54 +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++++>><<<<-]>-.>---.<-.+. [454] < 1381017502 456755 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run which interp < 1381017504 584896 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/interp < 1381017510 711327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think hat didn't append the newline < 1381017513 442293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1381017514 893641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file $(which interp) < 1381017516 868354 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/interp: POSIX shell script text executable < 1381017525 125744 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++[>+++++++++>++++++++>><<<<-]>-.>---.<-.+. < 1381017525 310367 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1381017533 345255 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan to the rescue. < 1381017555 264324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which interp) < 1381017557 82111 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ CMD=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f1` \ ARG=`echo "$1" | cut -d' ' -f2-` \ exec ibin/$CMD "$ARG" < 1381017562 815738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i've used `interp bf_txtgen to generate the long bf program for fungot's ^prefixes < 1381017563 129037 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: phew! i did, too) has " fnord format fnord". < 1381017572 741539 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, fungot < 1381017573 276300 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what is the egobot?! sounds great though, must be one of the awful limitations of emacs is that it hinder the absorption of some b fnord and can lead to severe health problems. < 1381017582 243401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i had to fix a bug in it to make it work < 1381017584 502046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file ibin/bf_txtgen < 1381017586 249942 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibin/bf_txtgen: Bourne-Again shell script text executable < 1381017597 605477 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat ibin/bf_txtgen < 1381017601 275819 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ . lib/interp \ cd interps/bf_txtgen \ \ get_arg \ java textgen -g 1000 -i "$ARG_FILE" | tail -n 2 | head -n 1 \ clean_arg < 1381017611 472866 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I got so far is ++++++++++[>++++>++++>++++++>++++++>+++++++++>+++++++++>+++++<<<<<<<-]>+++..........>+++++>>++>+.<.<<<....>>>.<<<....>>>.<<<......>>>.<<<......>>>.<<<.........>>>.<<<..........>>>.<<<.....>>.......<.>>>>+++.<<.<<<...>>>>>>----.......... < 1381017621 377176 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only prints a fraction of it. < 1381017621 904341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level of indirection here is astounding and bewildering. < 1381017640 232937 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: the hell < 1381017662 834462 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how any quines were ever made in this language! < 1381017670 650097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you could use mine, prepended with a fixed point of txtgen (w/o the outputs) < 1381017680 742381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some kind of txtgen, anyway, not this one. < 1381017686 157430 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381017711 183361 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There will come a time where it will be done. < 1381017721 358288 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When? I don't know. < 1381017726 322171 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you could also < 1381017728 120235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf < 1381017731 102241 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam. < 1381017746 78774 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that is cheating! < 1381017753 518732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo not!! < 1381017754 512564 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any null program is automatically a quine! < 1381017756 814329 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheating is part of the game < 1381017765 785421 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: not in java < 1381017766 216653 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is that so? < 1381017777 348127 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the empty program is valid java. < 1381017796 26667 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not object oriented! < 1381017799 508343 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell the empty program is i think not a quine. < 1381017805 514119 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -- dunno if this even works. < 1381017806 592798 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `-- dunno if this even works.' < 1381017814 894685 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what i expected. < 1381017816 148655 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1381017817 301706 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `' < 1381017820 653827 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1381017834 707891 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shouldn't have asked. < 1381017837 676904 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+++++>+++>+++>+++++>+++>+++>+++++>++++++>+>++>+++>++++>++++>+++>+++>+++++>+>+ >++++>+++++++>+>+++++>+>+>+++++>++++++>+++>+++>++>+>+>++++>++++++>++++>++++>+++ >+++++>+++>+++>++++>++>+>+>+>+>++>++>++>+>+>++>+>+>++++++>++++++>+>+>++++++ >++++++>+>+>+>+++++>++++++>+>+++++>+++>+++>++++>++>+>+>++>+>+>++>++>+>+>++>++>+ >+>+>+>++>+>+>+>++++>++>++>+>+++++>++++++>+++>+++>+++>+++>+++>+++>++>+>+>+>+>++ >+>+>++++>+++>+++>+++>+++++>+>+++++>++ < 1381017845 292464 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaddaya think of that? < 1381017852 241194 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Credit to Daniel Cristofani. < 1381017854 642821 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo > 3 + 5 < 1381017856 645095 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​> 3 + 5 < 1381017866 635620 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it doesn't output anything... < 1381017903 382040 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: what should that do? < 1381017912 977144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the java textgen is not Gregor's program, he just wrote a wrapper around to run it using EgoBot's command api, which `interp invokes (at least in HackEgo) < 1381017927 216575 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay? < 1381017941 110360 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, wait, so < 1381017950 582607 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the java program is also a wrapper? is that what i'm hearing here. < 1381017975 324545 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bash script calling another script calling a java programm calling the real thing? < 1381017982 172701 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy, that's indirection < 1381017994 557020 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++++>+++>+++>+++++>+++>+++>+++++>++++++>+>++>+++>++++>++++>+++>+++>+++++>+>+>++++>+++++++>+>+++++>+>+>+++++>++++++>+++>+++>++>+>+>++++>++++++>++++>++++>+++>+++++>+++>+++>++++>++>+>+>+>+>++>++>++>+>+>++>+>+>++++++>++++++>+>+>++++++>++++++>+>+>+>+++++>++++++>+>+++++>+++>+++>++++>++>+>+>++>+>+>++>++>+>+>++>++>+>+>+>+>++>+>+>+>++++>++>++>+>+++++>++++++>+++>+++>+++>+++>+++>+++>++>+>+>+>+>++>+>+>++++>+++>+++>+++>+++++>+>+++++>+++ < 1381018004 24770 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381018007 302253 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ITYM "abstraction" < 1381018008 571058 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: that doesn't output anything < 1381018012 86599 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: don't forget the UML part. pretty awesome. < 1381018027 455915 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you realize you are hitting the irc line limit, right? < 1381018040 800265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that lost kingdoms, by any chance? < 1381018049 151273 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Thought it was a quine. < 1381018053 511401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no < 1381018057 175263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does look a bit like a quine < 1381018061 323757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's getting cut off < 1381018070 438020 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, where would I find a copy of that Lost Kingdom thing? < 1381018077 201045 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't find it anywhere! < 1381018120 326289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: it looks like the beginning "make a representation of the final part of the program on the tape" of a quine, but it's missing the actual final part that would print both it and the final part. < 1381018137 165769 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@p4FDCCED5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 24.0/20130910160258] < 1381018142 978633 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know if I got it all. < 1381018155 654631 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381018166 574656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reading recently someone saying that lost kingdom was hard to find. < 1381018169 309888 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: seems to be at http://web.archive.org/web/20111031121638/http://jonripley.com/i-fiction/games/LostKingdomBF.html < 1381018198 949975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"this Brainfuck edition is significantly larger at 2.08Mb" ha. < 1381018220 406269 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381018240 710303 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: yeah, it is < 1381018244 633838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checked < 1381018289 773462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i don't know if the java program is a wrapper, that's not what i meant anyhow. < 1381018316 680119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the empty file is not a valid Haskell program because it doesn't define 'main' < 1381018356 731805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: i am somewhat doubtful that you can fit a bf quine into a single irc line, because it's so hard to setup data compactly in bf. < 1381018365 617825 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1381018382 692958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need an algorithm which compresses Brainfuck using the whole of the Universal Character Set < 1381018387 60004 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... < 1381018389 645309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably five of those on the wiki already < 1381018395 864667 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh heh. < 1381018422 897150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the irc length limit is by character, right? bet you could fit a lot of bits in there... < 1381018423 772878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and being clever means expanding the part of the program that is making the decoding < 1381018446 408280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when I was writing a 446-byte real mode demo I concluded that packers weren't worth it for this reason < 1381018446 684299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: now decode those bits without making the program even huger. < 1381018453 352111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I may have been insufficiently clever with my packers < 1381018467 673827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :real mode x86 code is reasonably compact, especially if it's written by hand to be compact < 1381018494 942114 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i just meant, using a bf that use three bit groups for commands, instead of characters. < 1381018500 379008 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a 24-bit character could have eight commands. < 1381018509 345890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad unicode characters are only 20.1 bits < 1381018525 35250 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gasp < 1381018566 541147 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> logBase 2 . fromIntegral . ord $ maxBound < 1381018567 640845 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 20.087461546321563 < 1381018593 973686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the problem with trying to cheat the irc length limit with bits is that bf ignores all but it's 8 ascii command values < 1381018599 694966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the other problem < 1381018612 675540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i'm not talking about ^bf! < 1381018620 345830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1381018659 529404 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just think about how much bandwidth is wasted globally from the unused 0.91 bits. < 1381018692 255915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is 20.087 bits enough to encode all of tungusic, hieroglyphs, and the lingua ignota? important < 1381018833 79023 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw Finally Taking Over The World. It was a good game, especially since it was written by hand. < 1381018861 55340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ \s -> s ++ show s "> var $ \\s -> s ++ show s " < 1381018862 284913 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a0] -> [a0]' < 1381018862 430460 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `... < 1381018867 46324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1381018876 243138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about all the characters from the voynich manuscript < 1381018882 768255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be great < 1381018892 643488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var $ (\s -> s ++ show s) "> var $ (\\s -> s ++ show s) " < 1381018893 952863 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : > var $ (\s -> s ++ show s) "> var $ (\\s -> s ++ show s) " < 1381018899 250566 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? `? < 1381018902 809480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? `? < 1381018908 23378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2F739 VOYNICH SCRIPT SQUIGGLY THING THAT LOOKS KINDA LIKE AN EIGHT, I GUESS < 1381018909 423369 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo quine. < 1381018938 330555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently it was transcribed to punched cards in 1940. < 1381018972 504401 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: um i'm pretty sure `? `? existed before you started. < 1381018991 343161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did something approximately like that < 1381018994 718129 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. It's just wierd. < 1381019000 544083 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird! DYAC! :-) < 1381019008 212958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Wierd's a different language entirely < 1381019025 968481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn DYAC < 1381019027 81679 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "DYAC". < 1381019034 46837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google DYAC < 1381019035 554290 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/ < 1381019035 812922 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Damn You Auto Correct! » Funny iPhone Fails and Autocorrect Horror Stories < 1381019047 590553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Voynich_Alphabet < 1381019060 310785 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm trying to think up a shell oneliner quine that prepends `run to itself < 1381019090 229768 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: call it ? < 1381019138 285061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Voynich_manuscript_bathtub2_example_78r_cropped.jpg < 1381019171 191486 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A dense continuous text interspersed with figures, mostly showing small naked women, some wearing crowns, bathing in pools or tubs connected by an elaborate network of pipes, some of them strongly reminiscent of body organs" < 1381019200 144225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: actually `? `? did something different. `? quine did something similar. < 1381019203 641430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine < 1381019206 820632 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUINE `? QUINE < 1381019227 706736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? humphrey < 1381019229 280561 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humphrey Bogart is a cousin to Lady Di. < 1381019279 568966 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :voynich creeps me the fuck out :( < 1381019280 548841 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, what DID `? quine do? < 1381019376 26633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 3875 < 1381019380 802480 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1381019417 578526 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine < 1381019419 922878 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? quine < 1381019423 194513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did this. < 1381019513 103042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn NIMBY : Not in my backyard. < 1381019517 465030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381019533 73864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i reverted the quine mess and the broken humphrey. < 1381019562 35884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry elliott < 1381019568 286964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> afk
< 1381019588 428371 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381019620 421835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it's ok!! < 1381020082 284075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ReLcOmE < 1381020083 368576 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE | rainwords < 1381020094 9878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blinks
< 1381020167 286774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/ / "$*" /' bin/ReLcOmE < 1381020171 241902 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381020178 321955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/ReLcOmE < 1381020179 768849 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE "$*" | rainwords < 1381020196 270803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE bad_shell_programmers < 1381020198 581757 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1381020201 461791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BaD_ShElL_PrOgRaMmErS: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1381020207 727589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ReLcOmE bad_shell_programmers < 1381020210 540789 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​8BaD_ShElL_PrOgRaMmErS: 9wElCoMe 2tO 13ThE 6InTeRnAtIoNaL 4HuB 7FoR 8EsOtErIc 9pRoGrAmMiNg 2lAnGuAgE 13DeSiGn 6aNd 4dEpLoYmEnT! 7fOr 8mOrE 9InFoRmAtIoN, 2cHeCk 13oUt 6oUr 4wIkI: 7hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE. 8(FoR 9ThE 2OtHeR 13KiNd 6oF 4EsOtErIcA, 7tRy 8#EsOtErIc 9oN 2IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1381020295 840486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell nortti It might be an idea to actually test commands you add to HackEgo. < 1381020295 987428 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381020606 615050 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, go to bed it's like 2 am < 1381020655 117419 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1381020663 382257 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, go to bed it's like 3 am < 1381020685 527070 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am lashing out to cope with the fact that my sleep and food schedules have pretty much disappeared < 1381020688 788731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: btw myndzi already ignores HackEgo. < 1381020689 656469 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1381020709 529052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you mean i shouldn't have made that bet? < 1381020726 732011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bet.*taneb.*schedule < 1381020754 302136 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chop chop < 1381020756 504211 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: don't you have work or studies to force-schedule you? < 1381020757 793261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381020761 887949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlog bet.*taneb.*schedule < 1381020765 959233 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen__, not till Monday < 1381020775 108387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run q=`printf \\\\x27`; b=`printf \\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5cx`; g=`printf \\\\x60`; s=`printf \\\\x3b`; d=`printf \\\\x24`; y='${g}run q=${g}printf ${b}27$g$s b=${g}printf ${b}5c${b}5c${b}5c${b}5cx$g$s g=${g}printf ${b}60$g$s s=${g}printf ${b}3b$g$s d=${g}printf ${b}24$g$s y=$q$y$q$s eval echo ${d}y'; eval echo $y < 1381020775 253853 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2013-10-02.txt:00:38:10: shall we have a betting pool of how soon before Taneb's sleep schedule unravels < 1381020776 609664 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run q=`printf \\\\x27`; b=`printf \\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5cx`; g=`printf \\\\x60`; s=`printf \\\\x3b`; d=`printf \\\\x24`; y='${g}run q=${g}printf ${b}27$g$s b=${g}printf ${b}5c${b}5c${b}5c${b}5cx$g$s g=${g}printf ${b}60$g$s s=${g}printf ${b}3b$g$s d=${g}printf ${b}24$g$s y=$q$y$q$s eval echo ${d}y'; eval echo $y < 1381020784 367347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1381020787 88697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that took a while < 1381020799 911663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ais523 for burying his `pastlog -----###
< 1381020801 639499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not aiming to be obfuscated or unclear in any way, it's aiming to be a by-the-book quine < 1381020803 292691 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, my sleep schedule had already unraveled about two days before that < 1381020810 775044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: aha. < 1381020818 826452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, jwinslow23 isn't even here any more, so I can't show em < 1381020828 912234 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aren't quines with eval cheating? < 1381020839 389092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: only if they read their own source code < 1381020855 399539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I don't think eval can be used to cheat unless you combine it with some other cheating method anyway < 1381020857 579520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: anyway if i were to go to bed now i would need some knockout drug. < 1381020873 535999 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just using the variable definitions + eval as a method of defining a custom escaping mechanism < 1381020877 359111 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to try and regain my sleep schedule, brb < 1381020882 636052 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.156 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381020882 854134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I wanted to do it with only bash builtins < 1381020940 375152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run q=`printf \\\\x27`; b=`printf < 1381020940 520693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5cx`; g=`printf \\\\x60`; s=`printf < 1381020940 520786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : \\\\x3b`; d=`printf \\\\x24`; y='${g}run q=${g}printf < 1381020940 520831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ${b}27$g$s b=${g}printf ${b}5c${b}5c${b}5c${b}5cx$g$s < 1381020940 520890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : g=${g}printf ${b}60$g$s s=${g}printf ${b}3b$g$s d=${g}printf < 1381020942 157182 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1381020942 874416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : ${b}24$g$s y=$q$y$q$s eval echo ${d}y'; eval echo $y < 1381021006 972837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you irssi, the one time i _wanted_ your line joining to work... < 1381021031 461277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run q=`printf \\\\x27`; b=`printf \\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5cx`; g=`printf \\\\x60`; s=`printf \\\\x3b`; d=`printf \\\\x24`; y='${g}run q=${g}printf ${b}27$g$s b=${g}printf ${b}5c${b}5c${b}5c${b}5cx$g$s g=${g}printf ${b}60$g$s s=${g}printf ${b}3b$g$s d=${g}printf ${b}24$g$s y=$q$y$q$s eval echo ${d}y'; eval echo $y < 1381021033 165365 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run q=`printf \\\\x27`; b=`printf \\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5c\\\\x5cx`; g=`printf \\\\x60`; s=`printf \\\\x3b`; d=`printf \\\\x24`; y='${g}run q=${g}printf ${b}27$g$s b=${g}printf ${b}5c${b}5c${b}5c${b}5cx$g$s g=${g}printf ${b}60$g$s s=${g}printf ${b}3b$g$s d=${g}printf ${b}24$g$s y=$q$y$q$s eval echo ${d}y'; eval echo $y < 1381021060 597905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is that just my quine, or did you change it a bit? < 1381021081 736064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the output of your quine. i just wanted to check it _hadn't_ changed :P < 1381021154 321334 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1381021162 282138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite hard to distinguish a quine from its output < 1381021178 732881 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, an earlier almost-working version had the eval and echo backwards /inside/ the quotes < 1381021183 135958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it took me a while to spot what was wrong < 1381021197 341471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm almost positive that shorter bash quines exist, anyway < 1381021210 847000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably involving defining functions < 1381021219 535790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps < 1381021221 156187 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 284 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 285 ? 00:00:00 cat < 1381021230 786636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps < 1381021231 634378 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 285 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 286 ? 00:00:00 cat < 1381021239 888335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping for completely different PIDs < 1381021241 728705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works too < 1381021253 598142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's sh, not bash, which is why i was worried about your quine < 1381021286 553789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that HackEgo /bin/sh thing has some awful bash inconsistencies. < 1381021295 722921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps | tail < 1381021297 351608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ PID TTY TIME CMD \ 280 ? 00:00:00 init \ 282 ? 00:00:00 sh \ 284 ? 00:00:00 bash \ 285 ? 00:00:00 cat \ 287 ? 00:00:00 ps \ 288 ? 00:00:00 tail < 1381021304 192001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there is a bash < 1381021318 691307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's ok then < 1381021367 602762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it'd work fine in sh too < 1381021371 399190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just printf isn't a builtin in sh < 1381021377 625583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wouldn't be done entirely with builtins < 1381021832 765137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1381023665 594065 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381024030 17877 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381024059 744863 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381024283 375734 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381024312 219300 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381024316 531821 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381024346 741531 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381026887 118308 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381027763 580673 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen__ < 1381029532 833540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: we have a {{wayback}} template, by the way < 1381029545 154820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I thought we did < 1381029549 880446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it has to link to an older version than the latest < 1381029553 348426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't sure if that was doable < 1381029553 913489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it supports that :) < 1381029556 126046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I just copy-pasted the URL < 1381029570 944421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and figured that someone would correct me if they wanted to (only I thought it'd be oerjan not you) < 1381029598 685079 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan can do the actual edit. < 1381030386 588001 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are too many people in computers just for the money. It's a damn shame that computers are “respected” now. ☯89MAR < 1381031562 509549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that form 1989? < 1381031565 237090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1381031573 853390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381032304 467764 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381033724 807269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kids / lawn < 1381033832 120226 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nice to know that these people predate, like, me. < 1381033903 169242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't you rather prefer not to be predated upon < 1381033904 183322 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I on the other hand was a whole year old in March '89 < 1381033918 265407 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: good point < 1381034333 503478 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it called if you use a pastebin or tiny URL service to write it down on a small paper to recover it later (for your own use)? < 1381034345 36780 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikeism < 1381034722 453554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: cloud computing < 1381034783 72309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I mean this specific instance (and it doesn't contain anything private/secret) < 1381036926 579280 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381038339 998257 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: someone wants to know if you are going to NIPS < 1381038866 118582 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381042375 736764 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381042408 390326 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381042720 469100 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381043491 342668 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381044475 325269 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not. I think some colleagues are. < 1381045012 409916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381045352 208672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I can't believe someone hasn't noticed that bug earlier, if it has been there. Maybe my latest bugfix somehow broke that. < 1381045352 390448 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381045466 270132 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brainfuckery? < 1381045537 859346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1381045586 602292 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, I no longer understand the fix. < 1381045638 610047 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1381045738 699893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to put a 0 after the isolated command options, though. < 1381045749 879995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even done with STRN's "P", which should make that foolproof. < 1381045962 499359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :123456789012345678901234567890 < 1381045965 219399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381045965 364786 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :12345678901234567890 < 1381045967 427340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :123456789012345678901234567890 < 1381045968 955747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]! < 1381045973 634759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhm. < 1381046007 78218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it needs to do something to the input line pointer when there is no !. < 1381046104 188698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think I see what happens. < 1381046163 667016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to put a reference to the \0 at the end of the message when there is no !, but I think it has an off-by-one error, because it runs the same 1+ that bumps the number to one past the !. < 1381046171 492694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's an easy fix. < 1381046244 541249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^reload < 1381046244 786052 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reloaded. < 1381046249 630227 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :123456789012345678901234567890 < 1381046252 300192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,] < 1381046257 307971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we: go. < 1381046362 529702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix committed, for all you other fungot operators. < 1381046362 743385 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: almost as sluggish as my brain right now.) < 1381046384 319754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Come now, it was just two more instructions and it's even executed only for a ^bf. < 1381046384 595796 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the ' repl orientation' is standard in " sessions" in servlets. < 1381046393 772768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I "see". < 1381046393 918515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doing what?-) < 1381046668 287070 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381046961 129828 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381046997 217896 :asie_!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl NICK :asie < 1381047540 78834 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381047647 55443 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381050787 612444 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381053735 352745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ticket changed: * priority: minor => critical < 1381053751 193025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I favour priority inheritance as my method to solve priority inversions on my bug tracker < 1381053785 859774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381053879 183760 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wow I'm getting some players together and I'm gonna DM a game of Diana: Warrior Princess < 1381054613 21536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :wishlist => urgent < 1381055304 342033 :nooodl!~nooodl@d54C668E4.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381055582 28096 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu NICK :augur < 1381057042 227306 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381058152 112467 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381059271 933241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1381059982 901044 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1381061720 417859 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381061912 141169 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381063106 632320 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381064887 889669 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381066855 224667 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381067167 719760 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, one of my flatmates has taught me a bit more KSP < 1381067233 637592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"firey bit points away from space" < 1381067626 366264 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well this is interesting, vlc is only displaying the red channel when playing mp4... I'll test some other video players. < 1381067705 593110 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY!? mplayer is displaying the red and the blue channel, but nothing else < 1381067815 423598 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay it is the xv backend that is broken, using opengl + software decoding works... < 1381067950 989455 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect the GPU drivers, they are somewhat recently updated < 1381068913 548918 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381070303 92001 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381070455 80293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If VLC was displaying red and mplayer blue and green, maybe you could've gotten a working video by translucently composing VLC and mplayer on top of each other. < 1381070524 94761 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381070559 120983 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381070829 138197 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381071316 355799 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, right, but mplayer was red and blue though < 1381071347 286446 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, switching the backend from xvideo to opengl worked < 1381071411 525908 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381071809 757782 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, a sunset: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20130929-sunset.jpg < 1381071815 433128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(We've been sorting the digital pile of photos accumulated over the summer, to show friends and relatives; hence this and the flower before.) < 1381072673 240255 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381072707 980875 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? quine < 1381072714 39393 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? quine < 1381072719 47767 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...How? < 1381072752 894449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :By writing "`? quine" in wisdom/quine, presumably. < 1381072781 227163 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only got it to say "quine `? quine". < 1381072812 263155 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/quine < 1381072813 649909 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`? quine < 1381072817 993934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy. < 1381072819 814871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get it to say things that don't being with the word itself by manipulating files in wisdom/ directly. < 1381072856 20450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just `learn that can't do it.) < 1381072865 447702 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat wisdom/reversal < 1381072866 731454 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/reversal: No such file or directory < 1381072892 217550 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to write it there? < 1381072923 728156 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381072932 677112 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1381072933 48842 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1381072936 358810 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1381072977 82599 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo lasrever > wisdom/reversal < 1381072980 653474 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just linux. < 1381072982 160640 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381073018 316665 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know Linux. Have a PC. < 1381073048 610887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux does run on various kinds of PCs. < 1381073060 223018 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never used Linux. < 1381073061 653786 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on a potato < 1381073062 936303 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381073231 582367 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381073452 325286 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PART :#esoteric < 1381073497 891113 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381074027 144706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 32% of wisdom entries begin with the entry name. < 1381078923 597068 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wow, really? X-D < 1381078930 272833 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makes `learn seem rather silly. < 1381079303 336241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disclaimer: statistic is an approximation generated with a cd wisdom; find . -type f | cut -c 3- | while read f; do if head -c ${#f} -- "$f" | grep -qF -- "$f"; then echo yes; else echo no; fi; done | sort | uniq -c except locally because it was timing out. < 1381079337 810050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was correct for a couple of spot-checked entries, but could have issues.) < 1381079390 982270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems it doesn't do lowercasing correctly. < 1381079425 160336 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :63% are `learn-compatible, after correcting for that. < 1381079483 778685 :^v!~DerpHerp@71.238.152.180 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381079640 524655 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381080158 247096 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381080258 549540 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bc < 1381080260 317015 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381080261 459382 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bc ௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵௵ < 1381080302 852528 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bird < 1381080304 746931 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bird bird bird bird < 1381080312 37767 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ramen < 1381080313 666235 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​拉麵是一種類型的麵條縫製從原始樹木。 < 1381080327 404871 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? right < 1381080329 764491 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right is not two wrongs but three lefts. < 1381080372 531711 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj < 1381080374 673387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiasdayviaerqjjjjjjjj is the reason why the USA don't use the metric system. < 1381080424 827211 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ursala < 1381080426 968884 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​~&al?\~&ar ~&aa^&~&afahPRPfafatPJPRY+ ~&farlthlriNCSPDPDrlCS2DlrTS2J,^|J/~& ~&rt!=+ ^= ~&s+ ~&H(-+.|=&lrr;,|=&lrl;,|=≪+-, ~&rgg&& ~&irtPFXlrjrXPS; ~&lrK2tkZ2g&& ~&llrSL2rDrlPrrPljXSPTSL)+-, < 1381080468 387580 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wercome < 1381080470 971895 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ） < 1381080498 362025 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if "Ramen noodles are a type of sewing from the original trees." is a faithful translation or simply poorly translated by google < 1381080504 88594 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? piet < 1381080506 372550 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ \ 6Piet 4is 7a 8really 9colorful 2programming 13language. < 1381080518 910447 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? neit < 1381080521 231048 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :neit? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381080531 373100 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brainfuck < 1381080533 302983 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs. < 1381080565 180112 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? misspellings of croissant < 1381080567 190291 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :misspellings of crosant? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381080576 207050 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! < 1381080629 626697 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hthmonoids < 1381080631 731962 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids hthmonoids ... < 1381080662 604012 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? log < 1381080664 246954 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might mean !logs < 1381080669 500809 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? logs < 1381080671 458273 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​1113I05 08thin13k13 y09o10u06 05m02i12g08h05t14 m03ea10n08 02!11l06og09s11 < 1381080681 264676 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the wisdom is mostly in the pdf < 1381080685 831892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to take up the channe < 1381080686 775091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1381080697 119820 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or you could use pms of course) < 1381080855 996124 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click on the follwing link. < 1381080863 356766 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wercome < 1381080865 483380 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ） < 1381080948 191919 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381081246 126814 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/# < 1381081319 665218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks very authentic. < 1381081332 78976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1381081548 187830 :^v!~DerpHerp@71.238.152.180 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381081577 215813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you add some `? file for other esolangs such as Underload and Checkout? Perhaps also such thing as FurryScript? < 1381081703 383903 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also add P.D.Q Bach is INTERCAL of Baroque music. < 1381081804 688865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381081926 763019 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381082849 972801 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381083122 236152 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381083174 680645 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381083189 148140 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381083286 130815 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381084006 560066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There’s one more magic control key that switches your whole reality. This is ^W, which switches between the ships in a pier. Do you have multiple ships in your pier? Sure - you still have your old submarine." < 1381084010 564894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all so very strange. < 1381085407 235810 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381085620 99484 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381086174 302585 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381087183 985426 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1381088015 71521 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381089098 674723 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wecome < 1381089100 998285 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381089113 821612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? icame < 1381089115 574891 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :icame? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381089160 662354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn wecome in pece. < 1381089165 919350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1381089212 722142 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does he say that? < 1381089216 349960 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? learn < 1381089217 745906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381089229 795593 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wecome in pece < 1381089231 641255 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome in pece? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381089241 138261 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? wecome < 1381089242 933763 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wecome in pece. < 1381089287 377376 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381089338 260228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a "whimsical" acknowledgement from `learn. < 1381090763 915583 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381090825 748383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UVB-76, UVB-76. 75-59-75-59. 39-52-53-58. 5-5-2-5. Konstantin-1-9-0-9-0-8-9-8-Tatiana-Oksana-Anna-Elena-Pavel-Schuka. Konstantin 8-4. 9-7-5-5-9-Tatiana. Anna Larisa Uliyana-9-4-1-4-3-4-8 < 1381090859 834777 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1381090912 509337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76 < 1381090953 237213 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381091137 464488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this numbers station because it transmits an annoying buzz 24/7 but apparently this is generated by having a microphone in the room and a buzzing box nearby < 1381091461 458895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the buzzing is probably just to ensure the frequency is always available by annoying anyone else who tries to use it < 1381091541 844067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but also it occurred to me that an air gap would be desirable if you're connecting cryptographic equipment to a radio transmitter < 1381091569 429129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hey, I was just reading about that a few weeks ago! < 1381091625 599100 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I were a plain russian scientist measuring stuff in the ionosphere with a buzzer I'd probably be thrilled about all the myth surrounding that thing < 1381091632 267813 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1381091646 556835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask some HAARP scientists about that < 1381091710 960319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia has a "see also" from UVB-76 to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Hand_(nuclear_war) which I'm not sure is justifed by any evidence, but is a creepy connection to draw anyway < 1381091712 179829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading about Urbit reminded me of elliott somewhat. < 1381091749 645199 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I read the original Urbit stuff years ago, so yeah. < 1381091763 108098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not quite crazy enough though :( < 1381091783 56855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seemed quite crazy, absolutely speaking. < 1381091947 326494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"At DEFCON 2 or higher, the Looking Glass pilot and co-pilot were both required to wear an eye patch, retrieved from their Emergency War Order (EWO) kit. In the event of a surprise blinding flash from a nuclear detonation, the eye patch would prevent blindness in the covered eye, thus enabling them to see in at least one eye and continue flying." < 1381091949 682400 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After the prelude, there is usually an announcement of the number of number-groups in the message, the page to be used from the one-time pad, or other pertinent information. " < 1381091975 212633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They actually say on those things "Use page 12 of the one-time pad"? Or is the OTP page thing just a guess? < 1381092005 34462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's basically "in case of nuclear war, fire missiles using remaining eye" < 1381092020 835937 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I think it's a guess < 1381092029 296176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the impression that the thing itself (urbit) is significantly less crazy than the descriptions of it < 1381092065 349794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In related news, I like how github's "number of commits" splines in a single-week graph go below 0 when there's something non-zero next to two consecutive zeros. < 1381092071 540812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: have you heard the Conet Project recordings: https://ia600500.us.archive.org/12/items/ird059/ < 1381092085 108142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure the nice curvy lines are pretty, but the interpolation makes no sense. < 1381092124 798040 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am suddenly less certain that I am not on drugs < 1381092287 630765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I am suddenly less certain that I am not on drugs < 1381092291 946568 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1116) I am suddenly less certain that I am not on drugs < 1381092371 978049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are intelligent organisations so obsessed with making their secret transmissions sound creepy < 1381092392 9293 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like the fact that someone has thought that stuff through and come up with procedures for it (re looking glass pilots) < 1381092486 643176 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the low-techness of the eye patch is a nice bonus, but apparently they replaced them with fancy goggles later) < 1381092531 353739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i blame the fancy goggle industrial complex < 1381092535 561831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://uvb-76.net/p/triangulation.html this map looks pretty cool. < 1381092597 611009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow apparently there is a Freenode channel about UVB-76 and numbers stations generally < 1381092600 603818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#priyom < 1381092673 289541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the Buzzer is nicely audible over that WebSDR thing. < 1381092815 57885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Name : UVB-76 < 1381092815 242476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Genre : Ambient, Russian, Experimental < 1381093156 594382 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A client-side morse decoder is one thing they should maybe add to WebSDR for casual users.) < 1381093188 275467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you wish the world was like the mercator projection < 1381093195 173931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :with massive icy wastes to the north and south < 1381093526 587401 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381093535 552779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in DEFCON the missiles look like they're curving up into the atmosphere but they actually curve north on the rectangular map < 1381093542 207925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's better to put your antimissile stations in the north < 1381093567 9331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really if you're not playing US vs USSR on a polar map then wtf are you doing < 1381094838 183249 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381095359 113942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381096164 23743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1381096164 169260 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 14h 6m 51s ago: I can't believe someone hasn't noticed that bug earlier, if it has been there. Maybe my latest bugfix somehow broke that. < 1381096291 518960 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went and fixed that thing. < 1381096305 34991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo testing < 1381096305 222866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :testing testing < 1381096306 51521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't seem to be related to the earlier fix. < 1381096325 110418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1381096349 911174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly people had just not tried input without ! all that much. < 1381096399 757326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well good job < 1381096410 83802 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the bug? < 1381096493 554761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^bf without ! would use parts of previous messages as input < 1381096748 526626 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381096912 564439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1381096924 912774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, the part that was supposed to set the bf input data index to point at the 0 at the end of the ^bf command instead set it to one past that zero. (Where there was the tail end of whatever previous message longer than the command was.) < 1381097581 66154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Oh wow I'm getting some players together and I'm gonna DM a game of Diana: Warrior Princess <-- ooh < 1381097581 250363 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381097620 606020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never played that, but it's one of the most hilarious tabletop RPG concepts i've heard of < 1381097747 49719 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, my When interpreter can succesfuly execute a previously parsed When program < 1381097762 201398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1381097764 846009 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning to use ocamllex and ocamlyacc is a task for another day < 1381097887 828453 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is your Bag language significantly different than the simple "fractran with token multisets substituted for prime decompositions" it originally was? < 1381097907 297417 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsidiary question, is any version of Bag implemented? < 1381098065 490426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no. < 1381098075 417365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the second question, that is. < 1381098111 793645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i think about implementing it, i get hung up in how to split up actual numbers given. < 1381098194 501617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have this clever algorithm which doesn't need to actually prime factor, but i'm not sure if it's efficient if there are a lot of numbers. < 1381098210 433607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i procrastinate before even getting to implement that part. < 1381098237 195241 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers? prime factors? so there not just token lists? < 1381098249 17850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you can use either tokens or numbers freely. < 1381098258 629630 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/there/they're :( < 1381098263 270220 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, ok < 1381098290 977340 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you use both simultaneously? < 1381098301 561192 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in multiplying numbers by token lists < 1381098328 925327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's ideally supposed to treat numbers effectively as if they were factored, but then i thought "what is someone puts in an RSA public key to be annoying" and then i thought up my unimplemented algorithm. < 1381098335 428078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1381098415 301933 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you don't need to actually prime factor every number, you just need to check if n is a multiple of the denominator, right? < 1381098438 747843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because you cannot expect to able to factor an RSA public key in general) < 1381098465 50147 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I'm very patient < 1381098481 622186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well it's supposed to still be efficient if a huge prime gets raised to a large power < 1381098520 833703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it should handle things that are too large as ordinary bignums < 1381098525 553871 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you don't need to actually compute the result of the multiplication < 1381098548 506321 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so numbers are hybrids, half-factored, half-notfactored < 1381098560 859565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my algorith is a factorization algorithm, it's just not a _prime_ factorization algorithm. < 1381098567 695478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*algorithm < 1381098584 626346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it factorizes numbers "enough" < 1381098589 822504 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea what the subtle difference is
< 1381098601 281406 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381098640 261844 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, I want to code a text adventure of my own in BF. Anyone know how to do that (preferably by hand)? < 1381098645 454583 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't factor *more* than down to prime decomposition, and factoring less is just "going half through with prime factoring" < 1381098665 133377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: it's like you're asking us what tools to use and simultaneously saying you don't want to use any tools < 1381098683 318743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: basically say you have this huge RSA public key that is pq for a large number. if no part of the program has a different number of p's and q's then you don't _need_ to factor those separately. < 1381098687 160108 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but Taking Over The World was written by hand! < 1381098693 265864 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Know what? < 1381098701 567257 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Give me tools if you can find any, OK? < 1381098707 290899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because everything is of the form (pq)^n * things not containing p or q < 1381098708 286789 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please. < 1381098734 266925 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1381098758 350153 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: have you ever written a text adventure? < 1381098769 616757 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's why I want to know how. < 1381098788 445912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you _do_ have both pq and pq^2 say, in the program, then my algorithm can split them up. < 1381098824 536502 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you think it would be more interesting to write a *regular* text adventure first, then only move on to writing a text adventure using brainfuck? < 1381098845 286243 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I will. Thanks! < 1381098860 742314 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome, I guess < 1381098867 380899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(first it notices that gcd(pq,pq^2) = pq, and then that pq^2 / pq = q, so now you have q.) < 1381098895 866039 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmm 'kay < 1381098904 826663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then everything gets hideously complicated if there are lots of factors to split out. < 1381098961 262727 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I will tell you when the text adventure is done. Until then, I'm out! < 1381098964 597352 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381098994 770913 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm gonna write a Bag interpreter that only accept token multisets < 1381098996 548881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1381099006 270423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: ok < 1381099027 547734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i cannot stop you. unless i nuke the eiffel tower. < 1381099057 266870 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you're warning me first, that kinda ruins the point < 1381099067 788359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively you could just handle small numbers. < 1381099077 283446 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's another possibility < 1381099241 811822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What text adventure game do you want to write? < 1381099249 123339 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm afraid he's left < 1381099266 335967 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381099776 748012 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381099841 288890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'He quotes Zheleznyakov on the purpose of Perimeter being "to cool down all these hotheads and extremists. No matter what was going to happen, there still would be revenge."' < 1381099939 598557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what's scarier, the fact that these people thought a robot programmed to automatically kill everyone on the planet would have a calming effect, or the possibility that they were right < 1381100030 849715 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :only semi-automatic, afaik? < 1381100033 827144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you use two channels on 8253 PIT with the output of one connected to the gate of another, to make more kind of square waves and other stuff output? < 1381100045 148 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what cold war was all about? < 1381100107 621683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that is needed to thwart that scheme is a genuine omnicidal maniac. < 1381100109 80546 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also says something about the human psyche that we place a high value on revenge even if it comes after we and everyone we know are dead < 1381100123 567382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that's a cool idea < 1381100128 160632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make a musical instrument out of a PIT < 1381100209 56849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be fun to list the top 250 channels on Freenode and then cluster them based on shared membership < 1381100212 686854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if someone has done this < 1381100422 708952 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, er, isn't the point more the prospect of revenge? < 1381100530 284575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Perimeter that huge doomsday ship that was proposed but rejected? < 1381100533 514773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that something else? < 1381100540 559453 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1381100545 950747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're thinking of project pluto? < 1381100576 225837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the idea here is that human commanders who detect a (possibly false) enemy launch will be less likely to retaliate immediately if they know that Perimeter / Dead Hand will avenge them after their deaths < 1381100606 701969 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: no, it was a Russian thing < 1381100623 86899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's arguing that it would have a calming effect on their own commanders, in addition to detering the enemy < 1381100626 92722 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is interesting < 1381100666 706117 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1381100730 893033 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking for Sgeo's thing, found this http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/09/soviet-doomsday/ < 1381100753 27687 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how it makes absolutely no effort to distinguish between doctor strangelove's doomsday device and the real one < 1381101050 329773 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I make at execute a command as root? < 1381101124 556024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could run 'at' as root < 1381101134 382344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your command could be 'sudo whatever' assuming you have nopasswd sudo < 1381101257 895918 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm only doing this to turn my computer into a fancy alarm clock then turn itself off so I don't get distracted) < 1381102156 409169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is it tomorrow (well, today) they start revealing nobel prizes < 1381102338 270685 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool so I'll get more opportunities to complain about how the "Nobel Prize" in Economics is bullshit < 1381102343 233406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1381102349 360889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love doing that < 1381102375 753018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only next monday though < 1381102401 817286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they haven't decided when to announce literature yet... < 1381102414 252123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they _really_ couldn't agree this year. < 1381102598 731774 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, do tell us now < 1381102620 913575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good year for literature? < 1381102624 47474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bad? < 1381102665 441800 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, because it's actually Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel < 1381102696 11628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah Nobel had nothing to do with it, the Swedish central bank just decided to start awarding a prize "in memory of Nobel" around the same time as the real Nobel prizes < 1381102715 43350 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuckin swedes amirite < 1381102720 168021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 70 years after the real prizes were set up < 1381102734 341867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a little sleazy if you ask me < 1381102759 751142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I will also award some prizes in memory of Alfred Nobel < 1381102791 438159 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are the prizes funded? I know it was originally from Nobel's money, but... that money isn't lasting forever, is it? < 1381102807 934144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea of endowments is that they last forever (you only spend the interest) < 1381102812 683753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dunno < 1381102833 765720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the foundation had $560 million as of 2007 < 1381102880 262668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they give out five * $1.2 million each year? < 1381102900 632294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they only need like a 1% return, which should be easy < 1381102928 821913 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the expenses of managing that money and awarding the prizes could easily surpass the prize money itself < 1381102972 846155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention the gold medals themselves... < 1381102990 217409 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381103005 59991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just noticed PH's username is phantomho < 1381103394 449885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wercome < 1381103397 123866 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​エソテリックプログラミング言語のディザインとデプロイメントの国際な場所へようこそ！詳しく、ウィキを見て：　http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page。（他のエソテリック、irc.dal.netの#esotericへ） < 1381103508 56255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1381103516 892661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1381103518 955706 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1381103550 432228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo should have a command to translate stuff using Bing or whoever still has an API < 1381103643 932803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does _anyone_ see the first message as a link leading to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page%E3%80%82%EF%BC%88%E4%BB%96%E3%81%AE%E3%82%A8%E3%82%BD%E3%83%86%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%80%81irc.dal.net%E3%81%AE < 1381103655 397611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as having < 1381103670 144333 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see your line as a highlight (hth) < 1381103693 859394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am slightly guessing jwinslow23 did. since he made it. < 1381103699 943881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should also have EUC-JP and Shift-JIS versions < 1381103739 632644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you're welcome to repair bin/translatefromto < 1381103765 738058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: /tmp/x.out: No such file or directory < 1381103770 239158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1381103776 644687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1381103788 259550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was supposed to be < 1381103790 451039 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :�����ƥ�å��ץ�����ߥ󥰸���Υǥ�������ȥǥץ������Ȥι�ݤʾ��ؤ褦�������ܤ������������򸫤ơ���http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page����¾�Υ����ƥ�å���irc.dal.net��#esoteric�ء� < 1381103813 806956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a better way than /exec -out to send non-UTF8 to the channel < 1381103824 203214 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot of stroken out Ys < 1381103837 565315 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ܕM��I��9�E��D�|ys01(�!�l+�ǟvGy�☱C{� < 1381103852 732222 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAA < 1381103893 379126 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:57:04 -interactive: Creates a query-like window item. Text written to it is < 1381103896 399183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:57:04 sent to executed process, like /EXEC -in. < 1381103902 742119 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can literally use irssi to talk to a REPL < 1381103911 600037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1381103945 677109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, i already have a suitable tmux window now < 1381103947 172390 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already knew how to do that in #irp < 1381104042 304043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there should be a mode to send the text only if it quits with exit code 0 < 1381104064 982950 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.250 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381104798 726754 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381105577 718303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381105912 613880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I guess your IRC client / terminal / whatever doesn't know about non-ASCII spaces < 1381105942 772347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er actually there isn't a space there < 1381105986 703829 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm? it's not my client. my client doesn't make links anyhow. < 1381106031 752161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you were asking if anyone saw something that you don't see? < 1381106044 688511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but jwinslow23 made a page on esolang that looks like it came from that message. < 1381106073 731200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah. < 1381106100 444062 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381106309 19840 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1381106705 909707 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: work < 1381107101 552350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to make it so that there is four kind of line prefixes (there is also lines with no prefix), meaning: assembly language, SQL, text, preformatted text. What could be the prefix characters to indicate these things? < 1381107413 912010 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a, s, t, f? < 1381107468 29273 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell are you doing < 1381107470 887123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shouldn't use letters; I should use a punctuation, other than those used by the basic format that can occur at the start of the line. < 1381107503 88114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ) } ] and > < 1381107508 703454 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!?.: < 1381107515 128991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles evilly
< 1381107521 380482 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+-*/ < 1381107559 873182 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys don't even try < 1381107577 171259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far I think your idea of !?.: is best < 1381107603 275961 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :_-=+ < 1381107669 386781 :hypha!~hypha@93.158.64.201 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381107774 52593 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was gonna go for _ = ≡ but I didn't have a quadruple-bar symbol on my keyboard < 1381107792 836842 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have either; I have to use only ASCII symbols. < 1381107804 221959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and furthermore, only printable ASCII symbols) < 1381110634 161322 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, I come across random IRC snippets < 1381110637 708303 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and omg I find kmc < 1381110641 150560 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :and guess what he's talking about! < 1381110642 959715 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1381110662 213592 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust? < 1381110670 445262 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot guess it very well. < 1381110671 219482 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got the vowel right < 1381110672 862902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know? < 1381110723 363791 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381110867 90080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does space count as printable? < 1381110913 397049 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider space a printable character. < 1381110928 747884 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't do anything besides advancing the cursor and painting stuff. < 1381111092 874696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes space does count as printable (as far as I am concerned), but it doesn't count here because the space would be ignored even before the prefix symbol; this way you can make it in a indented block rather than having to move it to the first column to make it messy. < 1381111129 635790 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have the stats for the big leech so that we can downgrade it to make the stats for the small one too? < 1381111206 64998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: maybe this? http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Black_Leech_(3.5e_Creature) < 1381111268 459674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will look later, but is it suitable to downgrade to make the small one? < 1381111277 522086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Right now I have another program open instead) < 1381111290 959736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it actually says "small animal" < 1381111322 800730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A black leech, often called blood devil, is an about 3 feet long, 1 feet thick creature with a completely, inky black skin. It weighs about 40 pounds and is parasitic." < 1381111331 843399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose if the ordinary rules are used to change it to "tiny animal" then it might work < 1381111403 956766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it was my first google hit for '"leech" d&d' (i put leech in quotes because google seemed to want it to be lich instead), there may be other hits. < 1381111452 64337 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, lemme complain about... the universe or something. < 1381111500 386277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i have a hunch the others on the first page are spells and powers. < 1381111503 127958 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381111519 894981 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there's Haskell. It's described as "the simply typed lambda calculus with tons and tons of syntactic sugar on top". It's pretty much one of the fundamental programming languages of the universe. < 1381111537 927589 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :legend has it that the sun was developed in haskell < 1381111543 757440 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1381111557 828047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maybe. However the purpose of such a thing I ask is for use as a familiar and other things. < 1381111618 955912 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :No,no,no < 1381111620 49367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, the link i gave was for a creature. < 1381111625 363026 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck is the most fundamental language < 1381111627 530720 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I once pondered, what would Haskell be like if values couldn't be duplicated or discarded? A lot of stuff would become easier; instead of having monadic I/O, you could have functions taking a World and returning a World. < 1381111631 885355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything else is a dialect of Brainfuck < 1381111636 935365 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes I know that you said "small animal" which is implying that. < 1381111637 155600 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for INTERCAL < 1381111645 949512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://xkcd.com/224/ < 1381111654 166530 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we talking about animals, I bet animals are way more interesting than Platonism. < 1381111661 184888 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: uniqueness types? < 1381111661 482685 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that, like Haskell is in some sense equivalent to intuitionistic logic, there's another sort of logic, linear logic, that would be equivalent to Haskell-without-duplicating-or-discarding. < 1381111692 287848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But I do like to make up some spell/power too, such as, "Kjugobe's Timer", and magic items such as the magic pair balls which allow you to know the distance between them and teleport the other one to you while you are holding one.) < 1381111700 385880 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381111736 372805 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: something like that. In this language, uniqueness would be enforced *everywhere*; you'd need special markers or whatever in order to do something that doesn't obey it. < 1381111742 591630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: btw haskell isn't simply typed, it's polymorphic with its own heap of extensions to hindley-milner types. < 1381111766 714550 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how far does Haskell 98 extend HM types? < 1381111798 392074 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it turns out some people have created programming languages based on linear logic. I've looked at them, and I don't really like any of them. So I decided to try to create a programming language that's pretty much Haskell, but linear. < 1381111818 923525 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it going? < 1381111819 564410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: also look at Clean, which is the very-similar-to-an-older-brother-of-haskell-using-unique-types-instead-of-IO-monads-although-you-_can_-define-monads-if-you-want language. < 1381111824 26657 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will write down the creature stats you gave me so that I can remember it for later in order to downgrade it. < 1381111853 969485 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm calling it Hylisk. As far as I can think, I have it totally worked out, except for a few unimportant details, like what members its None class would have. < 1381111918 807985 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, Hylisk and Haskell are almost completely identical, right? Hylisk is also purely functional, with lambdas and applying and algebraic data types and pattern matching and all that jazz. < 1381111945 474332 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yet, I've put hours and hours of thought into the idea of compiling Hylisk into Haskell, and I just can't find a way to do it that makes any sense. < 1381111974 166720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well the first haskell extension was type classes. then the classes were allowed to be type constructors instead of just types, which allowed e.g. Monad. since then it has got all kinds of weird stuff, type families, multiparameter type classes, rank n types, existential types, and lately kind polymorphism and automatic raising of types to kinds... < 1381111998 167866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the class members were < 1381111999 197039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: A lot of these Haskell extension are useful. < 1381112006 695544 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since when does Haskell 98 have type families? < 1381112025 335228 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Have you been working on an implementation? < 1381112037 819514 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, type constructors and classes are definitely extensions, I think. < 1381112050 329691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Do you have the other details too? < 1381112070 349744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: haskell 98 isn't the latest standard. almost everything beyong class type constructors isn't included in that. not that haskell 2010 added any type extensions that i recall. < 1381112072 699845 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: not really; I want to write a compiler, not an interpreter, but I have no idea how a compiler would work. < 1381112079 129203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*beyond < 1381112092 910268 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *nod* I'm just looking to copy Haskell 98 at the moment. < 1381112096 352707 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Would System F be useful? < 1381112102 827974 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the other details about what? The type system, or the entire language? < 1381112118 25557 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could compile down to the same dialect of System F that Haskell uses, and then use GHC's infrastructure from there on < 1381112127 433722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Both. < 1381112129 215378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: with all the changes they've done in the basic libraries i'm not even sure ghc _supports_ haskell 98 any more. < 1381112149 656243 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: the thing is, Hylisk types don't translate cleanly into Haskell types, at least not in any way I've discovered. < 1381112163 255537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the removal of superclasses on Num would be the biggest inconsistency, i think. < 1381112165 424428 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you have to replace (Num a) constraints with (Num a, Show a, Eq a), everything else is "fine" if you use the haskell98 base library afaik < 1381112168 451357 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -XHaskell98 < 1381112178 265034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course Applicative => Monad is happening and will ruin everything. < 1381112182 183034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :by unruining everything < 1381112188 319379 :Guest35587!~simpleirc@pool-108-12-44-234.syrcny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381112190 483484 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best idea I've come up with so far is to have a Haskell type called HyliskValue and make everything be that. < 1381112217 733393 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds like throwing types away < 1381112219 105886 :Guest35587!~simpleirc@pool-108-12-44-234.syrcny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381112219 512488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: what did i do now < 1381112222 444233 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: right. < 1381112229 462048 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: look at https://github.com/isomorphism/Delineate. < 1381112248 441535 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, I guess there are some other details I've thought of that I haven't decided what to do about. And, undoubtedly, some other details I've completely forgotten about. < 1381112309 181078 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think rather than trying to map types to types, you just create your own type system < 1381112317 4321 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you probably are already doing < 1381112341 512339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although if you say it's still typed lambda calculus, you should be able to compile down to that < 1381112368 694233 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've looked at that, and I feel like I ultimately dismissed it for some reason. Now I don't remember why I dismissed it. Maybe I didn't have a good reason. < 1381112464 287034 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well, here's one rough spot that Hylisk has. In Hylisk, there's a type for functions that don't return: a function of type "a -> Done" takes "a", and then doesn't return. Now, there's a function cancel :: ((a -> Done) -> Done) -> a. < 1381112491 616594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it just makes a lie of the promise the haskell 98 report made that programs made according to it should expect to be supported long after new standards had arrived. < 1381112504 778694 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cancel" takes a function f. It then creates a new function g, and passes g into f. Then it waits for f to call g, and grabs the argument to g and returns it. < 1381112539 43172 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what's the point of a function that doesn't return, except side-effects? but I thought Hylisk was purely functional and that would mean there are no side-effects... < 1381112630 240293 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well, there are ways that data can get out of a function besides being returned. < 1381112655 905691 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me the way < 1381112702 74843 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. You might really hate this syntax. If so, I apologize. < 1381112711 141199 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381112718 963759 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: ((\y -> y 3) \x) -> x < 1381112737 73458 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what, that example can be simplified. < 1381112741 167871 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example: (\x 3) -> x < 1381112755 360040 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Hylisk, \x is a function that binds x to its argument, and doesn't return. < 1381112764 667071 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So (\x 3) -> x evaluates to 3. < 1381112788 950296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they have any relations to linear logic? < 1381112797 442597 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1381112804 701093 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's "assign 3 to x"? < 1381112809 116052 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the stuff that I just described? Yeah, absolutely; it's completely inspired by linear logic. < 1381112813 629714 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds *a lot* like a side-effect < 1381112818 17703 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it does, yeah. < 1381112827 898318 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a zero, one, top, and bottom types? What do they do, if so? < 1381112859 323577 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds really impure, but isn't. There's no way to do destructive modifications. Evaluating the same expression twice always gives you the same answer. < 1381112897 979599 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :destructive as in irreversible? < 1381112934 971223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see google front page has changed its ui again. now i need one more click to get to translate. < 1381112949 578063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was already slightly annoying that i needed two. < 1381112956 459301 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yup. Zero is an uninhabited type. One is the unit type, whose values can be freely created and destroyed. Top is a "garbage" type; you can create values of it, but values of that type can't be destroyed or otherwise disposed of. Done is the "no return" type; if a function returns Done, that's equivalent to not returning. < 1381113014 786276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume this is poisonous infection from that mobile app stuff. < 1381113080 170756 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: you know, I guess I don't really have a good idea of what "destructive modification" actually means. < 1381113096 89979 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, "const True" is an irreversible function in Haskell, isn't it? But it's not impure. < 1381113159 126338 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what -> means in Hylisk, but I'm gonna assume "(\x 3) -> x" is literally what I would write in ocaml as "let x = 3 in x". in that case the only reason why this "assignment" isn't a side-effect is because it's not an assignment, but rather just a replacement in the right-hand expression < 1381113192 915428 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the right-hand expression wouldn't make sense without the let in, since x would be free) < 1381113209 294056 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. And that's pretty much what -> does. < 1381113225 450391 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evaluate the left hand side until it's of the form "\x y", and then replace x with y on the right hand side. < 1381113259 97640 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... but in that case "\x 3" doesn't make sense without the "->" ? < 1381113262 272100 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, here's cancel: cancel f = (f \x) -> x < 1381113263 981943 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: correct. < 1381113277 333959 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not really a function < 1381113316 786402 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backslash-variables, arrows, and the corresponding bare variables are in a one-to-one-to-one correspondence. Each appearance of one must correspond to exactly one appearance of each of the other two. < 1381113354 37059 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: well, it's certainly treated as a function. It has a type (in this case, something like Integer -> Done), it can be passed into functions that take functions, and so on. < 1381113354 495190 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which excludes something like \x -> x*x < 1381113365 242007 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: right, because x appears too many times on the right hand side. < 1381113390 168079 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point is I'm under the impression that this "Done" is similar to ocaml's "unit"... but ocaml has a unit type because it's is *not* purely functional < 1381113412 465562 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: How would you write something like that, assuming there is no other way to square? < 1381113454 343560 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well, here's how you're going to write it if I don't create any syntactic sugar for it: \x -> uncurry (*) (duplicate x) < 1381113459 460756 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to create syntactic sugar for it. < 1381113490 51046 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :duplicate is a primitve? < 1381113492 948066 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"\x -> x*x" is probably going to be syntactic sugar for "\x -> uncurry (*) (duplicate x)". "duplicate" is a member of a class, called Duplicable or something. < 1381113493 823366 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :primitive* < 1381113501 518477 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1381113520 689983 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The instance of duplicate for Int is primitive, but other data types might have non-primitive implementations. < 1381113522 833546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Do you think something like this could work as a stack-based/concatenative language? < 1381113560 142296 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: it took me a really, really long time to figure out what Done means, and I still don't have too great a grip on it. < 1381113571 81079 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1381113615 741398 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's probably not like ocaml's unit, because afaik "unit" just stands for "dummy value you return when you've got nothing to return" < 1381113638 828629 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koen_: right. Hylisk has such a type; it's tentatively called Unit. < 1381113663 948225 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooookay. so there are side-effect after-all? < 1381113703 607163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell has () too. nothing to do with side-effects < 1381113737 474251 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well, I did come up with an idea for a modified do-block. "sdo {a; b; c}" is syntactic sugar for "c . b . a". And if you write "x <- a", then I think that corresponds to matching a with a pair, binding x to one half of it, and passing the rest of it along. < 1381113759 291994 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah, but my Weird Extended Lambda Syntax looks a lot like side-effects. < 1381113760 504927 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize for exhibiting my ignorance like that :p but I really can't think of a use for the unit type, other than as return type for side-effect-only functions < 1381113781 248071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :same reason the identity function is useful < 1381113794 426018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you expect downgrading the size to make it suitable for familiar and similar things? < 1381113797 905319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., instantiating parameterised types < 1381113799 490211 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"making @pl do stupid things" < 1381113860 303066 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to give that some thought, and in the meantime I'll give myself some sleep. thank you for your explanations and your patience! < 1381113884 129515 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I want to try it out as soon as you have a working implementation < 1381113954 910024 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1381113967 278654 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess here's how I'd say it. "\x 3 -> x" doesn't have side effects. The funky thing about \x is that instead of returning a value into the surrounding expression, it returns a value into the letter x on the other side of the arrow. The only "side effect" is that data moves through a different channel. < 1381113972 251514 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: yeah, me too. ^_^ < 1381114129 884366 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, lemme think. Hylisk types don't seem to be possible to translate into Haskell in a sensible way. Maybe they are, I dunno. But Hylisk *expressions* can be translated into Haskell in a sensible way, or so it seems. < 1381114182 914296 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: a Hylisk type of kind * will most likely translate into a Haskell type of kind * -> * or (* -> *) -> *. < 1381114239 944578 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I had that thought, yeah. For a little while, I thought that Hylisk types might even translate into monads. < 1381114333 712705 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. newtype Done r = Done r; data Unit r = Unit; data Zero r < 1381114343 222871 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know about Top. < 1381114349 877631 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Top = Bottom < 1381114351 244860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that Unit is actually Top. < 1381114359 339648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what? < 1381114368 562484 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've had almost exactly the same thought as that, yeah. < 1381114398 435743 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just kidding < 1381114419 912337 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't very funny. < 1381114429 328162 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defined the four identity types (Done, Unit, Zero/Impossible, Top/Garbage) in those three ways, using one of the definitions twice, but I knew that had to be wrong. < 1381114466 688698 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, certainly the Hylisk type World does translate to a Haskell monad. You'll never guess which one. Hint: it's IO. < 1381114471 698024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I think you should rename Unit -> One and Done -> Bottom. < 1381114475 945229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for consistency with the rest of the world. < 1381114514 263655 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I could, I suppose, but Haskellers are used to "bottom" meaning... whatever its Haskell meaning is. < 1381114551 555657 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, my reasoning with World and IO is pretty straightforward. In Haskell, a monad is essentially a context, which cannot be duplicated or discarded, but which can be queried. < 1381114578 225624 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in Hylisk, a value of type World is essentially a context, which cannot be duplicated or discarded, but which can be queried. So, like, exactly the same damn thing. < 1381114619 983153 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's a problem. In Haskell, querying the context doesn't change the type of a context. If you make a query, you can always make the same query again any number of types. < 1381114647 752991 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this OK? Telepathy to 5ft anywhere; master loses 3 max HP within range. < 1381114689 205773 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's not the case in Hylisk. If you have a value of type (Int -> Int), then you can pass an Int into it and receive an Int, but only once. < 1381114710 533188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Then add some ! and ? types too. < 1381114726 605888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Possibly even more than one kind of each.) < 1381114739 229264 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, but the problem isn't that ! and ? don't exist; the problem is that types without ! and ? do exist. < 1381114784 801783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, I know, but there can be ! and ? types in addition to the types without ! and ? < 1381114812 473844 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!(Int -> Int) would translate perfectly well as a Haskell monad, I think. But that doesn't fix the fact that (Int -> Int) does not. < 1381114888 175083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: So, that's what happens when Imakuni? means Imakuni! and Imakuni@. Now I know. < 1381114934 511597 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, this gives me a thought: "duh, just make them functors instead". < 1381114995 1069 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "f" is a Hylisk type, then the corresponding Haskell type "f a" will mean "something that uses a Hylisk value of type 'f' to produce a Haskell value of type 'a'". < 1381115031 459499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1381115078 311437 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what is "Done a"? It's something that uses a Hylisk value of type "Done" to produce a Haskell value of type "a". < 1381115115 569402 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a problem with that, though. The only thing you can do with a value of type "Done" is call it, and when you do, it won't return the program flow back to you. < 1381115154 961919 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I am pretty sure you want to be using something like the continuation monad's idea of negation. < 1381115167 231456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which importantly, lets you *customise* the equivalent of Done to an "r" type you get to choose < 1381115191 277171 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've definitely thought about the continuation monad(s) a lot, yeah. They also have the idea of "functions that don't return". < 1381115208 300383 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I read about negation in a continuation monad? < 1381115217 70097 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oleg's site has some stuff, I think < 1381115468 341622 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't found anything yet. < 1381115646 251404 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What *is* the continuation monad's idea of negation, exactly? Is the negative of "a" in "Cont r" just "a -> r"? < 1381115828 491731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t callCC < 1381115829 492241 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadCont m => ((a -> m b) -> m a) -> m a < 1381115917 624184 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have had some vague ideas about how Hylisk might turn into continuation stuff. In Haskell, you can't prevent someone from duplicating a value; but there may be ways to make it so that even if they do duplicate a value, they can only use one copy of it. < 1381115961 21050 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, suppose you're a function of type (a -> r) -> r, where r is opaque to you. You can duplicate your argument all you want, but it's not going to matter, because you can only *use* it once. < 1381116008 313799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i think the negative of a is ideally a -> Cont r Void < 1381116057 781435 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's isomorphic to a -> r, though, isn't it? < 1381116070 542815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unmtl Cont r Void < 1381116070 688485 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Void -> r) -> r < 1381116074 146284 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a -> (Void -> r) -> r, and (Void -> r) only has one inhabitant. < 1381116090 835892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1381116104 301910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to think inside the monad < 1381116129 522543 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, this is starting to seem like it might be really simple. < 1381116148 579199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, Void -> r has as many inhabitants as r has. < 1381116151 644824 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381116152 926876 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is computer science < 1381116166 734200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :const r < 1381116173 622028 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uh, no? The only inhabitant is \x -> case x of {}. < 1381116179 705526 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh. < 1381116180 407550 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1381116183 817498 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381116189 745246 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :one element, in a total language < 1381116193 756674 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, I think all those are equivalent, aren't they? < 1381116195 863349 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Void is initial < 1381116217 640785 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all the same empty function < 1381116234 575463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: a total language function doesn't have to use its argument. < 1381116253 835264 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but who says const x /= const y? < 1381116255 290309 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter < 1381116258 291392 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're being intensional < 1381116272 353558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1381116280 66747 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :take the graph of the function < 1381116281 763411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1381116283 533788 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1381116316 801691 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're a function of type "Either (a -> r) (b -> r) -> r", you'll provide either an "a" or a "b" to anyone who asks, but they'll only really be able to use one of them. < 1381116401 755463 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you're a function of type "(a -> r, b -> r) -> r", then, uh... what the heck is that < 1381116444 966492 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either a b < 1381116454 517281 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't be. < 1381116491 248610 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, if you're a function of type "(a, b -> r) -> r", then you'll take an "a", and you'll return a "b", but no matter how many times you're called, they'll only be able to use one of the "b"s. < 1381116501 199557 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too tired to explain now, but https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/haskell-cafe/XQ-tFFKgyqM/ldrTqYd4hHsJ < 1381116522 559527 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about your (a -> r, b -> r) -> r < 1381116524 449993 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :being isomorphic to Either a b, if your quantifiers are where I think they re < 1381116538 253968 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :type Either a b = forall r. (a -> r, b -> r) -> r < 1381116545 99029 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that makes sense. < 1381116550 823786 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm not sure where the quantifiers are, though. < 1381116573 930881 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantification is hard < 1381116575 667372 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's go to sleep < 1381116578 247670 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to sleep
< 1381116597 37025 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mumbles something about fibrations and binding
< 1381116601 701305 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if r is existentially qualified... then it's much worse. < 1381116612 760507 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, quantified. < 1381116613 189706 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's useless < 1381116622 269231 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it must be quantified dependent on something... < 1381116638 196586 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's supposed to be the "par" of linear logic, which is definitely not Either. < 1381116665 586090 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if those are -o then it's different < 1381116670 374289 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially, a "Par a b" is a single value that behaves as both "a" and "b" at once. < 1381116675 530070 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not well versed in reasoning about linear logic < 1381116679 471540 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, this is Haskell. < 1381116708 21691 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I'll go to sleep, yeah. I'll think about continuations. < 1381116710 884430 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night, everyone. < 1381116711 92385 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1381116712 744378 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ciao < 1381116725 649770 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Auf Wiedersehen. < 1381116728 243475 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381116898 343268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :par is the one that's hardest to intuit < 1381117332 736625 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: forall r (f g :: Void -> r), f = g < 1381117350 459253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because forall (x :: Void), f x = g x < 1381117364 444510 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because forall (x :: Void), p < 1381117367 473737 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Void -> p < 1381117493 381052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY BUT DON'T ASK ME FOR HELP WHEN LOGIC STARTS BREAKING < 1381117820 134951 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`slist (or did someone already do this? I don't know when the upd8 was) < 1381117824 121677 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :slist (or did someone already do this? I don't know when the upd8 was): Taneb atriq Ngevd Fiora nortti Sgeo ThatOtherPerson alot < 1381117847 53567 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was one HUGE update today < 1381117849 173767 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot to slist < 1381118017 526232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :This webpage is not available <-- so i take it it turned out roxy is calliope's dream clone wife or something similarly server-crashing < 1381118823 243788 :roflplatypus!484e8c36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.78.140.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381118838 172828 :roflplatypus!484e8c36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.78.140.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1381118895 533170 :roflplatypus!484e8c36@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.78.140.54 QUIT :Client Quit < 1381119040 695037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1381119162 541733 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1381119168 25046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1381120150 285356 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381120190 602068 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381122442 80813 :Yaasky!~Adium@135.0.148.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381122932 193692 :Yaasky!~Adium@135.0.148.40 PART :#esoteric < 1381123134 865916 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381123139 389313 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlleo < 1381123175 390988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oehll < 1381123191 538960 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lkie you Bike, you are the cesloot < 1381123202 107100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnially someonea gets it < 1381123212 149045 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i konw rtie? :D < 1381123212 830069 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1381123473 703586 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi __Hithere < 1381123478 942901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome __Hithere < 1381123482 540289 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hlelo kmc < 1381123483 608210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04__H02ithere:10 Welcom11e to the04 inter07natio04nal hu06b f03o11r e08soter12ic programming la08nguage desi14gn and 09deploy05ment! 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(For the10 other k09ind 13o05f esoterica, try #esoteric 10on irc.d02al.ne08t10.) < 1381123494 876423 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was adaerly wlceeomd lkie fitfy mliolin tmies < 1381123508 941054 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wдt < 1381123518 905493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :loco popele < 1381123524 392091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt we are drunk < 1381123544 425649 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, whats going on < 1381123553 364695 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, forgot the ~ sorry < 1381123557 187111 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, wahts gnoig on < 1381123603 951994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :The how-to guide to become the new face of zero and one | PDF yourself: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ | this spacetime intentionally left right < 1381123605 567504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: why are you connected as both ^v and __Hithere? < 1381123640 845155 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eloitlt, becusae i wnat to see how aewosme my txet lokos < 1381123718 253511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think someone read too much of that "people only need the first and last letters to be in the right place" theory < 1381123740 265085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're not drunk?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? fals advertising < 1381123750 766584 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nrep, sorry to dnpiiossat kmc < 1381123754 725672 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what this channel has become.......... < 1381123762 366265 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :buirfcank < 1381123776 263513 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1381123782 640613 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buttfuck < 1381123785 721249 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bairn|fcuk < 1381123794 196745 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1381123800 808972 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maby i should make it seperate by capitals < 1381123807 976681 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so BrainFuck comes out properly < 1381123830 461018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :__Hithere: there is no such thing as BrainFuck. < 1381123839 8118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may be confusing it with brainfuck. < 1381123843 68678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb- < 1381123848 862881 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1381123852 724019 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shoots himself in head
< 1381123858 401548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW THE HUNTER BECOMES THE HUNTED < 1381123875 10455 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good that i use http response code 337 for a project thingy? c_c < 1381123888 900639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTTP 402 Payment Required < 1381123899 796800 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the header looks like HTTP/1.1 337 H4X < 1381123905 232453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs ^v
< 1381123928 84992 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION raeps kmc
< 1381123933 633827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not cool < 1381123938 648656 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i cant /me ~text) < 1381123942 95495 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1381123950 189429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of that here plz < 1381123952 64793 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to add thдt < 1381123953 758218 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1381123959 694867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you russian some of the time < 1381123966 513127 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wдt < 1381123971 443645 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im never russian < 1381123975 1212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :privyet < 1381124000 969350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Я люблю большие окурки и я не могу лгать < 1381124022 973264 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ш вщте дшлу нщг kmc нщг фку ф зщефещ. < 1381124039 633689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: i suspect nonexistent response codes are not recommended. < 1381124051 277773 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for webpages < 1381124053 552513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im a potato?!?!?!? < 1381124078 329783 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc has a russian keyboard < 1381124079 305021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian is hard < 1381124080 186706 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirmed < 1381124081 588654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381124089 817715 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or memorized the keys) < 1381124095 674763 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c_c < 1381124100 750668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮ < 1381124110 273233 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ cant see this < 1381124119 23118 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^----------------------- IM WITH STUPID < 1381124124 648271 :__Hithere!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381124129 934527 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1381124137 20496 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_: < 1381124139 189340 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by there < 1381124146 484999 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye :) < 1381124151 224686 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hated that bastard < 1381124156 677628 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was an $%^hole < 1381124166 743344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had something to hyde < 1381124168 586801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Русский Стандарт < 1381124180 620902 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russian Standard < 1381124183 324598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :da < 1381124207 395756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Вы хотите муравьев? потому что это, как вы получите муравьев < 1381124249 100195 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Нет, я, как картофель больше < 1381124290 39772 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ш дшлу екфшты < 1381124294 224584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kartofel < 1381124312 385425 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1381124325 775749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1381124334 558826 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1381124341 920984 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1381124360 242117 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont like python < 1381124368 598440 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is worth the title of joke esoteric language < 1381124375 605128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not interesting enuf < 1381124381 751014 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua ftw < 1381124387 30644 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its useless by itself < 1381124390 448916 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmod ftw < 1381124413 411642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those languages are so boring < 1381124460 134756 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[>->] < 1381124541 70342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1381126738 329281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a "cesloot"? < 1381126777 770859 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably a "coolest". < 1381126836 512956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to be confused with a coopless < 1381127161 239953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh. (I slow.) < 1381127312 140968 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Cua < 1381127481 890451 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381128977 908894 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381129086 147132 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381129101 566696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381130028 816493 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381131289 671966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381134390 175434 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381137034 319961 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381137983 206909 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381138968 848102 :Zuu_!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1381139770 607386 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381142623 813997 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381144924 318786 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381145473 877715 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381145533 510828 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I forget how easy adblock makes watching youtube < 1381145546 85791 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or having a desktop IRC client makes going on IRC < 1381145624 426887 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had my first actual lectures this morning < 1381145649 166120 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One was an introduction to boolean logic, the other was an introduction to the concept of a computer architecture < 1381145657 866960 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I preferred the first one < 1381145671 107935 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think the second was very well presented < 1381145758 566167 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds exciting < 1381145797 767017 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381145846 249075 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381146710 711892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381146752 133888 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381146927 75876 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Bike what are you doing? < 1381147343 242958 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1381147347 436926 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to hear < 1381147385 108716 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1381147495 799377 :Mayushii!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan NICK :Lymia < 1381147736 215278 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381148761 968903 :Taneb!9020800e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.14 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381149239 877409 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381149380 724790 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381149998 682419 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381150910 701621 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381151056 338292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381151123 722497 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381151183 353252 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381151407 580690 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1381151756 703990 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381152252 152067 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381152322 180075 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381152322 325550 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381153792 68896 :Koen__!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1381153927 243945 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1381153931 983969 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1381154027 325053 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan my perception skills are poor. I usually need 17+ on a check. < 1381154027 470574 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381154031 424324 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan indeed. < 1381154031 606428 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381154455 71072 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381154648 301677 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381154882 118901 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1381155522 172499 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381156236 212227 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381156273 4922 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381156633 204163 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381156975 546692 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381157178 181288 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381157518 527227 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381158039 970790 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381158207 252073 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381158425 770424 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381158675 891433 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm working on a Hello World program in Tic-Tac-Toe. < 1381158685 641671 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, I have 60 games. < 1381158698 442688 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They print "Hello Wor" so far. < 1381159001 243688 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381159238 737901 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381159408 177071 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381159425 334639 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone wanna help convert other BF programs to Tic-Tac-Toe? < 1381159437 91126 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe someone can make a conversion program! < 1381159441 127724 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't. < 1381159450 423049 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm terrible at non-esoteric programming. < 1381159465 90982 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At best, I'll make a table. < 1381159712 726889 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381160450 539346 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm terrible at non-esoteric programming" -> So write a BF version. Then convert it with itself. < 1381160600 829782 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381160651 945880 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381161355 68436 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i think tic tac toe is kinda cute for a brainfuck derivative... < 1381161490 975328 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381161611 41210 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1381162045 628792 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381162068 787890 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381162193 723626 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381162523 669355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381162533 269413 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell JWinslow http://codepad.org/fBMEnC3S is this a valid bf->ttt conversion? the wiki article is kinda vague < 1381162533 414948 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381162748 549701 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381162897 190052 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381162985 351180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell elliott I want to block the latest spambot (I think I've spotted a pattern) http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/new appears to be a blank page; is there some sort of PHP issue going on on esolangs.org? < 1381162985 538619 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381163244 213300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: It seems kinda wasteful. < 1381164078 160829 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1381164667 764716 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381164962 748902 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381165153 868736 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a dream... an Esolang Wiki without spam... < 1381165246 89414 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381165274 797339 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381165526 680959 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381165682 732008 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381166187 341958 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381166271 732498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it sounds like Servo may get speculative tokenization of CSS a la http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/118795/pldi026-vaswani.pdf < 1381166274 755528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. exciting < 1381166471 121473 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381166471 322769 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1381166497 722558 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1381166500 329177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was hilarious < 1381166506 16879 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started lagging, so I reconnected < 1381166510 345168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in time to see the messages I'd just sent < 1381166621 896655 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381166836 130191 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381167363 225448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ugh, same here < 1381167367 753058 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a version mismatch < 1381167574 341323 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381167863 725250 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381168061 244721 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381168485 337523 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169009 938383 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169041 684840 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.22 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381169063 362164 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381169206 222999 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169312 78572 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169317 277232 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1381169332 662289 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169461 383442 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-1176215029.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1381169778 236619 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381169909 450271 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1381169910 146673 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071810Z 22034G50KT 140V220 6SM -RA SCT022 OVC045 20/17 A2956 RERA RMK SC4SC4 PRESRR SLP011 DENSITY ALT 1000FT < 1381170114 305137 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381170156 593898 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381170601 608087 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381170733 267890 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381170743 756316 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1381170829 568967 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you guys know Delineate.hs? A certain Haskell module that pretty much purports to implement linear typing, in Haskell. < 1381170898 975828 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This morning, during statistics class, I tried to replicate it. I could remember the definitions for Not and the turnstile, but nothing else. I came up with an implementation of Plus, and then I just used Not to turn it into an implementation of With. < 1381170922 632702 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you learn any statistics < 1381170927 864015 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so. < 1381170969 540768 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then I realized that given a linear type, the double negation of that type is always equivalent to the original type. So I added a new class, Dne, with a function called dne that lets you eliminate double negation. < 1381170978 476817 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This allowed me to simplify my implementation of With. < 1381170994 332275 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I go look here, and it turns out my implementation of With is this guy's implementation of Times. < 1381170995 544819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... you added stuff to remove stuff? < 1381171018 6182 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't both be right, can they?????? < 1381171019 706971 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scratches his head in paradozzulment
< 1381171020 463637 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: something like that, yeah. < 1381171062 172453 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So now I'm skeptical that this guy's Times is actually Times and not just With, because the thing he calls Times ought to be With. < 1381171228 751478 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kind of seems like it is. Ich estoy confused. < 1381171354 46764 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to get a better idea of *how* this guy's stuff corresponds to linear logic. Like, what the actual correspondence is. < 1381171355 681753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Je am 慌てている también. < 1381171450 412276 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate says "慌てて" means "hastily". < 1381171491 631530 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah? < 1381171520 334298 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also suggests “perpexedly”. < 1381171530 53075 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, so it does. < 1381171578 223260 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am perplexedly always? that's some deep shit boily. < 1381171584 392358 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Je don't parlare Japanisch. < 1381171588 396885 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :También is also, not always. < 1381171598 724711 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same diff < 1381171601 695091 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am deep. it was -RAing today. humidity confuses my neurons. < 1381171614 605125 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why your neurons specifically? < 1381171616 129573 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381171636 472717 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: et avec mon (supposément horrible) accent français, the confusion propagates by itself. < 1381171674 478327 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: statistically, I have way more neurons than anything else in my body, modulo gastrointestinal bacteria. < 1381171721 595188 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh... you are human, right? or am i making bad assumptions? < 1381171765 731710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have five fingers per hand, and I dislike BF derivatives. I think I am human, or under ~duck typing, something that moderately acts like one. < 1381171793 842414 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a ~duck a function that takes a duck and doesn't return? < 1381171835 781436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, there's an interesting insider trading speculation going on < 1381171861 809947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems as though some people became aware of the contents of a specific announcement that was going to be released at a specific time < 1381171867 564871 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381171869 417557 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it's a function that takes an unwanted query, then returns no information. < 1381171881 889682 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I love those. < 1381171883 249697 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381171885 213635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and acted upon it after it had been announced, but before there was time for the information to reach the markets even at the speed of light < 1381171921 529223 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that a window of a few hundred milliseconds? < 1381171931 406674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i'm just saying, you have less than a hundred billion neurons, and more than a hundred trillion cells. by cell count you probably have more fascia or something < 1381171937 341056 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: it was 7ms in this particular case < 1381171942 830712 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says that there are about a thousand more bacteria in your gut than neurons in your brain. “The human body carries about 100 trillion microorganisms in its intestines” “One estimate puts the human brain at about 100 billion (10¹¹) neurons” < 1381171946 765387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but finance trading software's faster than that nowadays < 1381171957 408297 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well yes, but your body has other cells in it. < 1381171968 384655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I must admit to being a bit surprised that there is a non empty intersection of relativity and finance law. < 1381171997 415846 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is it time for me to recommend krugman's paper on hyperspace arbitrage again < 1381172010 952487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that seems like a great recommendation < 1381172012 397792 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't read it < 1381172017 807492 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the relative order of those two events seems to depend on the frame of reference, doesn't it. < 1381172019 214045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I enjoy the fact that it exists < 1381172020 935440 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, but it's full of jokes < 1381172028 390129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: isn't it easily explainable by the fact that news organisations are allowed to transfer the data to their own servers in preparation for releasing it? < 1381172040 985565 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can be released immediately at the scheduled time once copied < 1381172044 963352 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fascia < 1381172048 704893 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.princeton.edu/~pkrugman/interstellar.pdf < 1381172052 318316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this was a big federal announcement in the US < 1381172057 812123 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, is anyone actually going to get prosecuted here? < 1381172058 922611 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they were intentionally keeping it secret until a specific time < 1381172059 910638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really weird thing is that US securities law mandates a notional single reference frame for the National Market System, even though this is physically impossible < 1381172065 365569 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............metasepia......... < 1381172076 507482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they knew how time-sensitive it was, thus they specified the time they'd release it in advance, and used an atomic clock to make sure < 1381172083 410834 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: who knows < 1381172088 650847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my guess is no, but it's quite early yet < 1381172107 780632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381172111 309332 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I know < 1381172115 489831 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so the information was time-sensitive down to less than a second? < 1381172123 144064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you read the news articles it says news organisations are allowed to see and IIRC copy the data before it's announced < 1381172127 147857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: yes < 1381172134 154953 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381172136 993268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, right < 1381172138 697676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fascia < 1381172139 130028 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascia definition: a flat usually horizontal member of a building having the form of a flat band or broad fillet. < 1381172141 26064 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so it's perfectly plausible they just copied it to a nearer server before the release date, as far as I know < 1381172156 406415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a plausible explanation < 1381172157 86490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thus allowing simultaneous release at both locations, because you already paid the light-speed requirement in transferring it beforehand < 1381172180 712746 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to think that if it was that simple there would be no story, but... < 1381172181 435569 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so... do you have a link to this or something? < 1381172207 265598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I send an order to buy stock on NASDAQ, and NASDAQ thinks that I can get a better price on BATS, then they are legally required to route my order to BATS, but they might do this on the basis of their link to BATS being slow and the order can't actually be filled by the time it gets there < 1381172212 274804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. annoying < 1381172231 952105 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/09/24/traders-may-have-gotten-last-weeks-fed-news-7-milliseconds-early/ < 1381172321 70733 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381172477 534109 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. So the article says that they placed the order at about 2:00:00.002, even though theoretically, there was no way they could have gotten that information until 2:00:00.007. < 1381172627 218595 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :, that's not insider trading. The information was released at 2:00:00.000, so they placed the order after the information was publicly available. That may be really unfair, but the purpose of insider trading laws isn't to make the marketplace more fair; it's to prevent people with insider knowledge from leaking it. < 1381172675 191781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: not sure anyone understands this correctly < 1381172685 363864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it's ever come up before < 1381172752 302062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the purpose of preventing them from leaking it < 1381172755 897705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not to make things more fair < 1381172784 148827 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: they obtained the information through some sort of agreement that obliges them to keep the information private. < 1381172808 740640 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or through illegitimate means. < 1381172841 725040 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381172941 669502 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: connective tissue. the stuff that keeps your heart tied to your ribcage. < 1381172977 711511 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, the article makes a good point, I think. People trading securities ignorantly (i.e. literally everyone) are injecting free money into the market, or something like that, and all these guys compete to be the first to slurp it up. < 1381173009 359496 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolfing haha what the fuck, awesome < 1381173061 898211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I don't know about "literally everyone"; the public US equity market is pretty damn efficient these days. it's hard to get a foothold building a new HFT strategy from scratch as there's very little low-hanging fruit < 1381173106 146685 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah, but of all the people trading securities, not one of them knows *all* of the relevant information. < 1381173125 535140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :brokerages get a lot of stupid orders but they'll match them internally or route them to various "dark pools" etc. before it hits the public market < 1381173147 273816 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hm, ok, I guess that's a valid use of the word "ignorant"; I read a value judgement into it that wasn't there < 1381173154 424703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wouldn't say they're injecting "free money" then < 1381173162 885072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :combining all that relevant information has a cost < 1381173166 441630 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true. < 1381173173 66690 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know all the information relevant to this thai chicken i just bought for lunch but i'm confident that the purchase was a good decision. < 1381173174 562208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who don't pay that cost are paying others to do it for them < 1381173180 563112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1381173187 957136 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't HFT more along the lines of like, basically shaving cents off each transaction? < 1381173191 594971 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381173209 280438 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what the rolfungot is that... < 1381173209 630866 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is the source free? can i write < 1381173215 271399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long term investors don't care about the last penny of the price; somebody else pays a bunch of physics PhDs and buys a bunch of servers to get that last penny from them < 1381173218 910743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: that's not how it's defined, but that's what it normally does in practice < 1381173219 56257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both parties walk away satisfied < 1381173221 658269 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: of course you can. you just need an account on wikipédia. < 1381173221 901711 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or lichen. not. know. < 1381173222 583141 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: pretty hilarious < 1381173231 295092 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember reading an article where they were doing cheesy things like using recognition algorithms to find large institutional trades < 1381173234 426254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, ais523: there are all kinds of different HFT strategies < 1381173237 31003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, suppose I want to buy something from you, I'm willing to pay £7, you're willing to sell it for £6 < 1381173237 356215 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then like, take advantage of that < 1381173252 90369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we just made the deals with each other directly, we'd probably agree on a price somewhere in between < 1381173270 198573 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the markets, what will normally happen is that HFT bots will try to react as quickly as possible to us placing the buy or sell orders < 1381173279 78408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then buy it from you for £6 and sell it to me for £7 < 1381173288 336412 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so like super short timescale arbitrage? < 1381173289 403190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: indeed. my previous top-quackering holistic body manipultion technique was accupressure, but I think that one takes the cherry. < 1381173291 631228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: yep < 1381173313 367531 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: lichen tastes good. I had it once in China. < 1381173313 704969 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: every procedure returns a recurisve procedure. http://www.kendyck.com/ 2005/ 02/15-feb-2005 the scsh manual is?! < 1381173327 270754 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wish my whole body was organized in gravity. < 1381173344 237510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this is tolerated because it increases liquidity; if I want to buy something for £7, and it normally trades for less than that, then the HFT bots will sell it to me immediately < 1381173349 450263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: btw, what does it mean? < 1381173356 813043 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what does what mean < 1381173360 310595 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in anticipation of someone selling it for less than that soon (say, when you come along with your £6 version) < 1381173382 507371 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I pay more than I might have to if I'd traded with you directly, but I get the trade fulfilled faster < 1381173400 171447 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So suppose that first you place an order of BUY LIMIT 7. Then I guess the bots could place an order of BUY LIMIT 6 right away. Then I place an order of SELL LIMIT 6, and so I sell it to the bot. Then the bot places an order of SELL LIMIT 7 and sells it to you. < 1381173402 583022 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, that works. < 1381173412 451847 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to be organized in gravity. < 1381173414 995911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some strategies provide liquidity, some of them take liquidity < 1381173418 18524 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both can be classified as HFT < 1381173429 301447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the recursion that can be recursed is not the true recursion. < 1381173429 846904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I don't know but it sounds relaxing. < 1381173429 992561 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is not so much so that a reload can work" occasions. stupidity isn't so special. eg. many doctors think that multiple sclerosis ( fnord), fnord ( the old style negation symbol looks in between and good key travel < 1381173436 560901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some strategies lose money on average except that exchanges pay you to provide liquidity < 1381173457 659190 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm sure I can find at least on place here. < 1381173476 60790 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd love to see the origin of "every procedure returns a recurisve procedure". < 1381173477 465952 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/on/one < 1381173489 51960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastlogs every procedure returns < 1381173493 945634 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: pastlogs: not found < 1381173500 131986 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be, like, markov. < 1381173508 622622 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Search for "recurisve procedure", man. < 1381173510 775993 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"every procedure returns" and "returns a recurisve procedure" massed up. < 1381173550 228009 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what do you know → http://www.rolfing.qc.ca/engl/rolf2.htm < 1381173558 104108 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but what sorts of things return recurisve procedures? < 1381173585 122765 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.google.com/search?q=recurisve this misspelling is more common than i thought. < 1381173593 748057 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could say that the Y combinator returns a recurisve procedure. But we wouldn't call it a procedure. < 1381173623 109100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: damn. < 1381173693 361604 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, since it's a "procedure", that seems to imply that it's an actual piece of computer code. A recurisve one, to boot. But what sort of thing would specifically return a piece of recurisve code, rather than just any type of code? Not a compiler. Usually. < 1381173711 488269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have the profound conviction that our bodies are the physical manifestation of who we are." < 1381173711 654315 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381173718 446481 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: self-self-modifying code? < 1381173773 897905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it meant "recursive" as in "computable", eh < 1381173796 472642 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. That's a possibility. < 1381173804 497490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :recurisve* < 1381173822 516169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora, ais523: a lot of strategies can be decomposed as a "signal" that tells you what assets would be good to own right now, and an execution engine which buys those at the best possible price by understanding market microstructure < 1381173832 454009 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by the way, if your neurons are directly exposed to atmospheric humidity, i recommend consulting a medical professional immediately. preferably a certified Rolfer ™. < 1381173885 548441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some cases the former is trivial, e.g. a pure market maker which is willing to go long or short on anything. in that case the execution had better be very good so that you can unload the position when the market moves < 1381173907 590076 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D. The video could be straight from The Onion. I also laughed when a Fox News employee explained with a straight face that since people don’t have the time to find out what’s true and what’s not, Fox News will helpfully do that for them. http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/7/4812630/fox-news-shepard-smith-news-deck < 1381173920 992702 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381173936 327325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can one auto-rolf oneself? I have this emotional attachment to my precious brain. < 1381173944 123307 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: that is an awesome picture < 1381173951 514252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but often the signal is based on observed patterns and statistical correlations between assets and such < 1381173958 471104 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you'll have to get certification in practicing Rolfing ® first. < 1381173961 612768 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, like... what happens when a person sells stock short, or something, and then they don't have enough money to buy it back? < 1381173967 617065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can factor out the execution engine as a service, and this is often done within a firm, but brokers will also do it for you < 1381173970 724089 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably someone has to pay for that. < 1381173990 198659 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381173997 451229 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll offer a service which guarantees to buy a stock over the next minute and give you a price which is at most x basis points above the volume-weighted average price over that minute < 1381174006 894200 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess I need to go. Auf Wiedersehen. < 1381174010 858599 :tswett!23284801@gateway/web/freenode/ip.35.40.72.1 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381174016 866358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I was going to answer the question :/ < 1381174019 743017 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«"We call these BATs," Smith notes. "Big area touchscreens."» it's so beautiful < 1381174063 719878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. in Québec French, «toucher son bat» is very obscene... < 1381174090 173947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it mean < 1381174102 905372 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381174123 458504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'This is to apprise you that $1.9 Million USD was paid out to us by the United Nations in conjunction with Microsoft... < 1381174126 464178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have successfully succeeded in depositing "your" total funds of $1,900,000.00 with us here at Western Union, Malaysia.' < 1381174143 120090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had two million dollars? do you have any more? can i have some? < 1381174167 807302 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: «bat» is slang for penis. < 1381174574 157126 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does each time I mention something embarassing do all conversations suddenly stop? < 1381174587 732129 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :My chicken is spicy. I can't talk. < 1381174658 74416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point. chicken has ultimate priority. < 1381174673 701441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what isn't slang for penis, really < 1381174800 678452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "what" isn't slang for penis < 1381174808 169086 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, not before I said that < 1381174810 613438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it probably is < 1381174822 340235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was before you said that, i can think of how < 1381174844 893358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it has to actually be used for that purpose to be slang < 1381174852 125225 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i know < 1381174852 591890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least appear on Urban Dictionary < 1381174982 369849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note: This fund is coming in 2 security proof boxes which are sealed with Synthetic nylon seal and padded with machine." < 1381174983 137677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Oxford Dictionary of Euphemisms lists "what you may call it" ("often shortened to whatsit, less often to whatzis") with the meaning of "any taboo object". < 1381175022 642873 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's the sort of thing i was thinking o. < 1381175023 380415 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f < 1381175037 13735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The whatsit is through there if you want it. (B. Forbes, 1983--a woman was indicating where the lavatory lay)" < 1381175049 490779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see so World Fund Management wants to give me $7.3M, Standard Chartered is sending me $65M, and the United Nations / Microsoft are sending me $1.9M < 1381175055 319613 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but that's a different word < 1381175058 481491 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky. < 1381175080 210513 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spam box has a $10.5m thing from Nigeria < 1381175080 398789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("whistle" is slang for penis. (Didn't have to read very far to find one.)) < 1381175080 563059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what "padded with machine" means
< 1381175095 218465 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am vaguely afraid to open any of them though < 1381175103 645216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks the padding oracle
< 1381175133 736803 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381175304 158266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"jump² a single act of copulation" < 1381175308 524367 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381175431 286421 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why are they giving you money? < 1381175462 223360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause i'm so great < 1381175477 253818 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copulation in Three Acts < 1381175798 741058 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381176017 591643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381176936 208750 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381177786 401365 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381178337 345714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking whether the C compiler (clang -fPIC -fPIC -fPIC) works... no < 1381178343 212335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with a fourth -fPIC ?!?!?!? < 1381178414 608764 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you sound like fungot. < 1381178444 603954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1381178447 495264 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why u no reply? < 1381178447 816871 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: invalid syntax delay and force are deficient. is that possible. < 1381178453 169108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1381178480 428155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what have I done to you? < 1381178480 611148 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " you must be < 1381178492 907842 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I must be... what? < 1381178493 91072 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh offby1, it's not useful < 1381178573 508153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps fungot "get a hold of yourself!"
< 1381178573 897913 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's silly to junk up a page for the 21st century or something for tseitsei and perhaps others too: http://www.deviantart.com/ view/ fnord < 1381178602 345039 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131005/01383624761/how-telecom-helped-government-spy-me.shtml < 1381178771 872999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: obviously. < 1381178772 87832 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: stalin compiling itself is, just a clue < 1381178777 653122 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: obviously. < 1381178850 333949 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381179032 981200 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381179677 685599 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381180546 262134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381181075 21703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: ASSERTIVE CHICKEN! < 1381181076 542797 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381181685 329731 :Zuu__!zuu@77.215.149.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381181691 814502 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381181888 137357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381182115 678816 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381182140 166021 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs @tell boily < 1381182145 109905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1381182145 255968 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 48m 37s ago: my perception skills are poor. I usually need 17+ on a check. < 1381182145 256151 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 7h 48m 33s ago: indeed. < 1381182174 803074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chop chop < 1381182186 528522 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.3029 < 1381182259 885360 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: chop chop < 1381182331 325696 :yours_truly!~yours@bas2-hamilton02-1176215029.dsl.bell.ca QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381182372 946110 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381182518 674371 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.176.135.69 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381182991 596421 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.22 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381183214 746300 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381183376 605512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381183484 290418 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381183535 992289 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381183882 925632 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381184072 992722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs recurisve < 1381184095 80316 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1949 < 1381184130 671055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1381184130 819757 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1381184183 71593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily fungot's irc style includes some logs from #scheme, the recurisve thing probably comes from there. < 1381184183 217042 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381184183 555712 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's why i was confused by spurious control chars coming out of nothing but cornstarch water. you would see them as seperate libraries instead of solving f(x,y,z,t) 0 for x 0 99 < 1381184217 520042 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I would also be confused by that... < 1381184217 970243 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it was quick and she i let her fnord out one last zippy the pinhead is a character from the input from a file; i don't wnat to setup output to fnord to < 1381184243 860886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see #scheme takes grieving over their idols seriously. < 1381184287 926296 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1381184288 159447 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ( r6rs seems pretty cool game, supports many languages) fnord work < 1381184358 670177 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot got got < 1381184358 875241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: and another satisfied customer. next! *grin* < 1381184568 714113 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1381184835 781590 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381184881 762743 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381184920 317481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "I have the profound conviction that our bodies are the physical manifestation of who we are." <-- finally a profound statement we can all agree with! < 1381184935 249642 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381184945 808162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, perhaps, the profundity part. < 1381184982 839545 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured out my Hello World program! It is 101 instructions in BF, and 81 games in TicTacToe. Wow. < 1381184998 165307 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll upload it soon! < 1381185005 187642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1381185024 641686 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello, World! < 1381185029 106518 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​140 ++++++++++++++[>+++++>+++++++>+++>++++++<<<<-]>++.>+++.+++++++..+++.>++.------------.>+++.<<.+++.------.--------.>+.-----------------------. [238] < 1381185053 568042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World < 1381185055 820919 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​110 ++++++++++[>+>++++++++++>+++++++>+++<<<<-]>>>++.<+.+++++++..+++.>>++.<+++++++++++++++.<.+++.------.--------.<. [831] < 1381185060 66809 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about the wiki example. < 1381185064 331846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1381185116 243790 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1381185155 451991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1381185176 462397 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: so, you have your language specified? < 1381185199 826668 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is specified? < 1381185266 289189 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tictactoe < 1381185287 616658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. < 1381185287 764636 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World!. < 1381185293 372828 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have all of the syntax (and cat program) down. < 1381185322 631647 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381185343 229563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: oh the wikipedia one. that's shorter yes. here in this channel, "the wiki" usually means the esolang wiki (also we all are disgusted by people calling wikipedia just "wiki" hth) < 1381185447 968244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as we all know, the full name is wikiwikipedia) < 1381185545 292836 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1381185894 16396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait the wikipedia one isn't shorter, it was 111 chars. < 1381186375 393903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikipedia one looks txtgen made, unlike the one on esolang. < 1381186419 73852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1381186440 641302 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World! < 1381186443 887751 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​111 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [243] < 1381186519 93385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now i had the same text and it's identical to wikipedia. < 1381186545 122614 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeterminism~ < 1381186574 154347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i just didn't write precisely Hello World! before. < 1381186592 569919 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World! < 1381186594 967754 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​111 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [324] < 1381186618 941371 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what's the bracketed number even do < 1381186627 698244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. < 1381186627 843736 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1381186645 140010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: number of execution steps, i think < 1381186664 766043 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello World! < 1381186667 62577 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​115 +++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++++>++++>+<<<<-]>.>++.+++++++..+++.>----.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>+. [189] < 1381186684 361860 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that's more like it < 1381186723 562909 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :243and 324 are different even though it looks like the code is the same... < 1381186769 893514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good point. < 1381186780 596594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's genetic algorithm steps, then. < 1381187146 403900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes our wiki use the shorter version too.
< 1381187179 852158 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1381187387 288297 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381187531 598757 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexande < 1381187536 717519 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hkmc < 1381187540 610980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you here for nobel prize season? < 1381187559 731345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nobel endeavor? < 1381187647 169673 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can award your own nobel prizes when you can come up with an endowment big enough for a million dollar prize annually < 1381187662 11308 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I become a central bank you mean < 1381187678 147520 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get some scandinavian institution to agree to make the decisions < 1381187769 239258 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381187860 320716 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i want to award micronobel prizes < 1381187887 340421 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at the wiki page for my language, TicTacToe. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Tic_Tac_Toe < 1381187897 710830 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any suggestions? < 1381187936 756580 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how about the fact that nobel's will says the prize in literature is only for work in an idealistic direction < 1381187946 256383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOK! At the picture. SEE! The skull. The piece of skull removed. < 1381187950 341196 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: wtf < 1381187977 943371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381188056 664557 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 or at least appear on Urban Dictionary <-- ok i see cocaine and marihuana, but not penis. < 1381188056 809954 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381188070 24826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for science. < 1381188116 322537 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps cocaine is itself slang for penis < 1381188152 845223 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bsdmreclist < 1381188155 461438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsdmreclist? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381188171 345831 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a wisdom entry, it's just a file < 1381188172 148151 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bdsmreclist < 1381188173 672471 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bdsmreclist < 1381188175 351995 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bdsmreclist: No such file or directory < 1381188175 700574 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​* oerjan swats quintopia -----### \ Phantom_Hoover: it records all the big hits < 1381188197 666566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, those were meant to be out of order < 1381188213 269252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU are out of order. < 1381188219 766358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whisky dick, cocaine cock < 1381188236 895761 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1381188243 389663 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo YOU are out of order. >> bdsmreclist < 1381188244 836075 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: oerjan: No such file or directory < 1381188246 623630 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is clearly a strange place < 1381188252 543401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: what were you expecting < 1381188259 993971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo " YOU are out of order." >> bdsmreclist < 1381188262 759657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome lexande < 1381188263 644219 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381188265 872336 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​12lexande: Wel07c12ome to the i04nternat02io05na04l09 hub for esoter04ic 08programming language desi05gn a10nd d13eployment! For more information, check out our wiki09: http://esola06ngs.o02rg/w05iki/Main_Pa07ge. (For 07the o10the08r14 kind of esoter02ica, try #e12soteric on i11rc.dal.11net.) < 1381188269 229487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: NOW you are realizing? wait are you new here. < 1381188273 574362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn too late. < 1381188284 727919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought lexande looked familiar. < 1381188284 873475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1381188286 674689 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :713) I think we are sort of this insane, and also sort of not as much as insane, and also sort of a bit more insane than that, and also somewhat more various other thing at various times whatever you are discussing at that time < 1381188297 660269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: very poignant. < 1381188298 972686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote is hella apropos < 1381188302 762332 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i've stuck my head in here a few times previously < 1381188309 89742 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall it being less strange < 1381188311 143661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have always left with your head too! < 1381188317 644720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: it's my civilizing influence < 1381188318 21235 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1381188326 925102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, poignant is not a synonym for apropos < 1381188329 793846 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be strange but it doesn't seem dangerous < 1381188330 135514 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381188337 562396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote kmc < 1381188339 690748 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :588) COCKS [...] truly cocks \ 618) You should get kmc in this channel. kmc has good quotes. `quote kmc 686) COCKS [...] truly cocks Well, in theory. \ 689) damn i should make a quasiquoter for inline FORTRAN \ 692) has there been any work towards designing programming l < 1381188340 728010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I can do this now: < 1381188346 319059 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :kmc > 1381188346 400641 NAMES :#esoteric < 1381188349 832710 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lexande < 1381188351 473107 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -o :kmc > 1381188351 494064 NAMES :#esoteric < 1381188351 618609 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :939) sometimes i am confronted with a problem and i think "I know, I'll use Banach-Tarski" < 1381188380 11872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande, do these problems involve not having enough of something < 1381188381 184911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | shuf < 1381188383 452693 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1044) would not be surprised to find out this tumblr is guerilla marketing by wolfram co to sell mathematica to stoners \ 1000) man at least job applications in biosciences are just like "you are willing to put your arms through a cow" Bike: please send us a link to your CowHub profile of cows you have previously put your arms t < 1381188389 881010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | shuf < 1381188392 177030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :724) aim hecker (n): when ur dronk and u pee so bad all over the toilet that ppl make fun of u (corruption of "aim heckler") \ 999) healthy immune system is a wonderful thing, you gotta take advantage sometimes i eat food off the ground just to keep mine on its toes \ 956) Sgeo_, are you just trying to pos < 1381188398 239421 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381188417 259959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ... < 1381188426 517677 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1381188431 245433 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1381188437 198449 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did i do this time < 1381188438 761116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you seem to have been whooshed by that quote. < 1381188489 439150 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mostly i am a friend of kmc's from way back. i also know shachaf from Another Place < 1381188491 27865 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is the joke that you'll have as much problem as you like < 1381188491 826752 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cello < 1381188494 74514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​4The 7high 8level 9stucture 2of 13Cello 6projects 4is 7inspired 8by 9/Haskell/, 2while 13the 6syntax 4and 7semantics 8are 9inspired 2by 13/Python/ 6and 4/Obj-C/. < 1381188500 750955 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF? < 1381188523 23761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the joke is that it's an allusion to the regexp joke. < 1381188530 517010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, banach-tarski. < 1381188534 262527 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381188538 949649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that would make sense < 1381188557 477794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote kmc | shuf < 1381188559 656791 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :842) i would subscribe to @zzo38_ebooks kmc: I have no ebooks which can subscribe to \ 865) i like the idea that if you name your country a Soviet Republic you automatically get the right to call up Lenin on the telephone and complain about bathroom pranks \ 984) i'm not actually competent at hacking things umm < 1381188618 20857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 984 < 1381188619 843723 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :984) i'm not actually competent at hacking things ummmm kmc dont u mean `cracking' [tiny glider symbol with "hacker pride" written next to it in silkscreen] [head of a gnu] [tux penguin] [face shoved in toilet] < 1381188641 626219 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc why u do this < 1381188648 360341 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which? < 1381188652 88069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my quote 984? < 1381188657 296490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was kind of kmc.jerkcity.moed++ < 1381188664 482468 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because elliott's a nerdeeee < 1381188668 554821 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, `run quote kmc | shuf < 1381188672 667245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh why not < 1381188683 332378 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan started in with the `quote kmc < 1381188689 172356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the earliest quotes are embarassing and bad < 1381188691 700643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i had to shuf them < 1381188704 847216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get other embarassing quotes. < 1381188706 200648 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote lexande | wc -l < 1381188708 303815 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1381188710 393629 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but not bad ones! < 1381188716 959969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's beyond me why you would be embarassed by cocks < 1381188718 388610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true. < 1381188722 436146 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty happy with my one quote < 1381188736 545604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote lexande < 1381188738 113190 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :939) sometimes i am confronted with a problem and i think "I know, I'll use Banach-Tarski" < 1381188749 665549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote tarski < 1381188751 397939 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :939) sometimes i am confronted with a problem and i think "I know, I'll use Banach-Tarski" < 1381188752 180404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting " i'm pretty happy with my one quote" < 1381188758 723935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel tarski's the less appreciated of the pair < 1381188764 752438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? banach-tarski < 1381188773 362515 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"Banach-Tarski" is an anagram of "Banach-Tarski Banach-Tarski". < 1381188785 268671 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarski, as in "proved reals decideable" tarski, is underappreciated? < 1381188785 487763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should have something cleverer there < 1381188791 785449 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: but, Tarski undefinability of truth, and Tarski-Vaught test for elementary substructures, and stuff < 1381188799 540490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what he said < 1381188806 670403 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean banach's theorem is cool too but c'mon < 1381188809 843421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. banach space? i know which i've heard of more < 1381188817 178361 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he has a theorem of his own! < 1381188820 533459 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas only analysts care about banach mostly < 1381188840 298545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you've been spending too much time in infinite-dimensional space, phantom < 1381188852 349394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381188855 689003 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you've been spending too much time around analysts < 1381188858 567249 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas only logicians care about tarski? < 1381188862 448595 :JWinslow23_!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381188868 356802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, which one is closer to this channel < 1381188872 58606 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do avoid logicians when i can... < 1381188901 252230 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did we ever do to you < 1381188904 165232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :programmers are confused and scared by reals, man < 1381188911 957579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because real numbers are /fucked up/ < 1381188918 543002 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well you see, since tarski and banach are both half of banach-tarski, they are also equivalent to the whole < 1381188925 428797 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see like that *points and laughs at kmc* < 1381188951 78984 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh ofc. < 1381188957 263220 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though speaking of unknown hyphenated mathematicians, i only looked up who bendixson was today < 1381188962 210019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i already forgot < 1381188971 308354 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381188977 861291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job < 1381188981 93010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good story < 1381188998 572887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As a young student Bendixson made his name by proving that every uncountable closed set can be partitioned into a perfect set (the Bendixson derivative of the original set) and a countable set." deep, apparently < 1381189024 444646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he was just trying to get the name bendixson on things < 1381189040 829421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i would < 1381189044 940754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematicians: taking derivatives of things since 1680 < 1381189053 695068 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he's mostly known for the "poincaré-bendixson theorem" and poincare is obviously famouser < 1381189057 437421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :AUGH he was a fucking SWEDE < 1381189076 905909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the curry-howard correspondance is the curry-howard-de Bruijn correspondance in .nl < 1381189091 409224 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of weird to say someone's name is cool and then complain about their nationality < 1381189104 869106 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo debruijn++ < 1381189137 382627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, i... didn't say it was cool! < 1381189144 221250 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you implied it < 1381189154 821647 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying is the new saying < 1381189198 229968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You infer, I imply" < 1381189207 201327 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, i only heard of him because of cantor-bendixson rank < 1381189221 120460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh i have never heard of that < 1381189233 274444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he's more famous than i realized.................. < 1381189248 864169 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381189261 180830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the "s" actually do anything in "Bendixson"? < 1381189269 172722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it just like, okay, here's an "s" to help you get over that "x" < 1381189276 3847 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says he's son of bendix obviously < 1381189277 490574 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably copied other people's work and pretended he discovered it independently < 1381189283 653035 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get his name on things < 1381189303 23500 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well poincare-bendixson was him ironing out an earlier proof by poincare. < 1381189356 337297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, but it went the opposite way with "bendixson-dulac" < 1381189380 833231 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe mathematics isn't actually driven by single geniuses and a bunch of hangers on........ < 1381189478 372072 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381189482 18304 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: seems "bengtsson" is another form < 1381189554 848164 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381189558 281688 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : maybe mathematics isn't actually driven by single geniuses and a bunch of hangers on........ < 1381189570 944218 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1381189577 134452 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this general topic can i have 3 minutes of hate for the wolframs < 1381189587 655708 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plural, now? < 1381189595 897940 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381189596 445393 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i think the s does something, yes < 1381189634 144438 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ben dix son < 1381189653 163486 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a new kind of science in my uni bookstore, had a good chuckle < 1381189662 23782 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :conrad's now going around doing TED speeches about how terrible maths education is and how we all have to fix it by teaching all the kids with mathematica < 1381189675 661361 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love ted talks. they're so bad < 1381189689 552083 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also elliott you know alice atlas? < 1381189706 981885 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolfram has been a prominent proponent of 'Computer-Based Math'- a reform of mathematics education to make greater use of information technology. [4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12]" hmm not sure i buy it better find some more sources < 1381189716 46547 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :warwick has a big TED^x conference < 1381189721 201872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know people who go and all < 1381189721 792326 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: yeah, for 7 years :) < 1381189728 589902 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for the world being small < 1381189735 598242 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«he argued that "Maths should be more practical and more conceptual, but less mechanical,"[19] and that "Calculating is the machinery of math - a means to an end."» is this even coherent < 1381189770 702759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what i've seen of tedx has been way worse than even regular ted < 1381189784 214099 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, keep in mind that vortex math had its big break at a tedx < 1381189794 266283 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1381189797 311624 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only seen the vortex math tedx < 1381189814 298159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of joke about how singular geniuses are not invertible < 1381189816 613201 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a good tedx though < 1381189822 741783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last ted talk i saw was this neuroanatomist going on about the mystic experience she got from a hemorrage < 1381189829 407819 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you even say to that < 1381189836 822916 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tedx presumably? < 1381189837 522278 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1381189839 386397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i'm sorry your brain blew up but i don't care" < 1381189839 708134 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you all heard the story about my dad and vortex math < 1381189858 818293 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely remember something about it but i could be imagining < 1381189899 934173 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so generally when i hear about such hilariously bad talks they are TEDx but are there notable TED-proper instances? < 1381189903 510694 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381189916 154360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i showed it to him < 1381189918 606103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... is TEDx like UberX < 1381189924 619021 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tedx is ted by third parties < 1381189927 823023 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he was all like "this guy's onto something, i'm interested" < 1381189935 997837 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cut rate version of TED where they let random jerkoffs do it < 1381189938 228186 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, yes < 1381189940 516267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1381189952 53426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: the one i'm talking about was ted proper actually. jill bolte taylor if you want to look it up < 1381189979 824855 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uberx is fine, so is lyft, cab drivers are not really less jerkoff-y than randoms < 1381190029 106667 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are maybe better at driving but not necessarily < 1381190105 634360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is lyft still legal < 1381190111 753718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they really still relying on the "donation" thing < 1381190147 615363 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they legal the same way uberx is? < 1381190152 160059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which way is that < 1381190152 728444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's lyft and why would it be illegal < 1381190170 722588 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the donation number is inscrutable < 1381190175 82171 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381190186 594766 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no price list or anything < 1381190335 357381 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381190490 894005 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so http://governmentdownforeveryoneorjustme.com/ reports the US and Syria as down < 1381190493 882095 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but such places as Somalia and Afghanistan and Congo-Kinshasa and Afghanistan as up < 1381190496 888754 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which seems dubious < 1381190540 644706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is afghanistan down? (twice?) < 1381190560 153637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does it say about Syria < 1381190562 974006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it geolocated? < 1381190576 202433 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also somaliland is fairly stable, i even know a person living there in another irc channel < 1381190582 780101 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as the US < 1381190584 56858 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :var down = ["United States", "Syrian Arab Republic"] < 1381190602 599026 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah somaliland is as fine as can be expected < 1381190605 839077 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the syrian government is still, i mean, functioning < 1381190611 379364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can congo-kinshasa be down we norwegians were just trying to negotiate with them < 1381190623 503622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just had a coup a few months ago. < 1381190626 782654 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean US diplomacy goes on too < 1381190636 372614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"as fine as can be expected" should be their tourism motto < 1381190641 499369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, i think < 1381190677 678252 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Syrian government is significantly less functional than the US government at this point < 1381190687 148596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :granted < 1381190704 938478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you hear, assad said he's not sure whether he'll run for election next year, he'll only do it if the syrian people really want < 1381190783 665015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh bother, i was thinking of the central african republic, not the congo < 1381190794 460914 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the people who are not shooting at me want me to run" < 1381190794 676812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE? < 1381190812 566023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: preferably as fast as he can < 1381190813 542478 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether centrafrique is down is also open to question < 1381190823 530582 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in a sort of "responds to ping but slow as balls" state < 1381190833 494496 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nice, the CAR's timezone is called WAT < 1381190836 890725 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "I'll only let the people decide if they want me if they decide they want me" < 1381190849 624113 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm paraphrasing ok :( < 1381190878 284729 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57606012/syria-president-bashar-assad-says-too-early-to-say-whether-hell-seek-re-election-next-year/ < 1381190931 384896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really sounds like an onion headline < 1381190947 812243 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the exact reaction i've seen in the three places i've seen a link. < 1381191008 251219 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a nasty rhetorical trick to say "I'll only run if people want me" because you're implying that "if I run, people want me, you wouldn't want to vote against the people now would you" < 1381191042 396782 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if we had some kind of system where you could "vote" for the person you want < 1381191053 54266 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then people could run regardless if anyone wants them or not, and the "votes" of the "people" would decide "who the people want" < 1381191056 4200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's really a problem, because when people say that they're usually already in kill-the-people 99%-election-results mode < 1381191060 699450 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty innovative if you ask me! < 1381191068 911329 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i mean, what's a rhetorical triq or two < 1381191123 784608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to be a bit bothered at the idea of a Lisp having 'calling conventions' for Lisp functions, that can end up exposed to the user? < 1381191137 753095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bothering < 1381191149 956112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what does that have to do with Syria < 1381191160 140882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The way Racket does function calls that have keywords < 1381191166 60207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies acceptable for this question < 1381191179 596887 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They expand into a call to the function with the list of keywords and keyword values as first two arguments < 1381191187 420496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a calling convention, of sorts, isn't it? < 1381191213 762284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't having keywords at all a calling convention < 1381191217 302895 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not having them, for that matter < 1381191372 921055 :Zuu__!zuu@77.215.149.86 NICK :Zuu < 1381191387 371532 :Zuu!zuu@77.215.149.86 QUIT :Changing host < 1381191387 517027 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381193432 241801 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381193457 980255 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? myanmar < 1381193459 792853 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :myanmar? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381193466 265355 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? burma < 1381193468 523211 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask Bike < 1381193502 585924 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you require medical assistance < 1381193532 625655 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381193541 477298 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, i don't think so < 1381193541 623037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1381193545 836974 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :would i know if i did? < 1381193550 741704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1381194176 958852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :odds are high < 1381194458 970968 :JWinslow23!411e34fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.65.30.52.254 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381194790 366797 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381194800 162688 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys, you know this? https://github.com/isomorphism/Delineate/blob/master/Control/Delineate.hs < 1381194818 152071 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course you do. Everyone in this channel has now heard of that file dozens of times. < 1381194843 614801 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out that yeah, it's wrong. It allows you to derive "f ⊢ Unit" for all f, which you can't do in linear logic. < 1381194874 369241 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because "f ⊢ Unit" amounts to "forall r. (Unit r -> r) -> f r -> r", and "Unit r" is a unit type. < 1381194950 176095 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hetch, the module itself contains something which you can't do in LL. < 1381194963 145631 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, I was reading that wrong. < 1381194978 501381 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x ⊗ (y ⅋ z) ⊢ (x ⊗ y) ⅋ z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x ⊗ (y & z) ⊢ (x ⊗ y) & z". < 1381195010 542542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine this would be much clearer without those white squares in it. < 1381195037 959614 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :White squares like ⊢, ⊗, and ⅋? < 1381195041 594149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1381195051 74969 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, gimme a moment. < 1381195069 695536 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z". < 1381195088 623070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats tswett -----###
< 1381195137 326172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i could see & just fine. < 1381195191 84632 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1381195199 804107 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "weakdist :: x (y z) (x y) z", which I was reading as "weakdist :: x (y & z) (x y) & z". < 1381195220 837425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUCH BETTER < 1381195247 921620 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's this look: 私のボオルは青いです < 1381195281 775524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like 私のボオルは青いです < 1381195331 468772 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what *is* ⅋? < 1381195355 510351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's par for the course < 1381195355 655911 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I spelled ボール wrong. < 1381195389 69021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"js.js is a JavaScript interpreter in JavaScript. Instead of trying to create an interpreter from scratch, SpiderMonkey is compiled into LLVM and then emscripten translates the output into JavaScript." < 1381195405 276393 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: a process obeying the protocol "a ⅋ b" is a process that simultaneously obeys "a" and "b", switching between them as it desires. Pretty much. < 1381195422 345717 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmkay < 1381195454 277435 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, e.e < 1381195457 690136 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that, uh, Haskell? < 1381195462 967108 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lymia: no, it's linear logic. < 1381195469 363643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's sparta < 1381195473 21795 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a little rough spot there, though. < 1381195509 173909 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :weakdist appears to be of kind (* -> *) -> ((* -> *) -> * -> *) -> * -> * < 1381195552 338717 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If flow enters an "a ⅋ b" through the "a" side of it, then flow can't exit through the "b" side, because "b" hasn't been entered yet; flow can only exit through a protocol that it's entered. < 1381195597 334632 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, in theory, that's how it *would* behave, if things were as simple as "a process that ... as it desires". < 1381195756 992056 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's the more complicated and more correct point of view: a process obeying the protocol "a ⅋ b" is a protocol that will obey "a" and is in the midst of obeying "b", or vice versa, and can switch between which one it's in the midst of obeying at will. < 1381195760 313467 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't make any sense, does it. < 1381195768 629760 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lemme give an example. < 1381195846 533939 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, let's say that a VM3-Coke is a vending machine that has the property that when you push its button, it dispenses a Coke, but only the first three times you push it. Likewise with a VM3-Pepsi. < 1381195909 450596 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "VM3-Coke ⅋ VM3-Pepsi" is a machine that's a combination of a VM3-Coke, and a VM3-Pepsi-whose-button-has-already-been-pushed-but-which-has-not-yet-dispensed-a-Pepsi. Or the same but with Coke and Pepsi swapped. < 1381195953 480141 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, let's suppose the Pepsi button is the one that's already been pushed. The combination machine isn't going to dispense anything until you push the Coke button. When you do, it could dispense either a Coke or a Pepsi, as it desires. < 1381196015 796684 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's suppose that it chooses to dispense a Pepsi. Now it's a VM3-Coke combined with a VM2-Pepsi, such that the Coke button has already been pushed. Now it's not going to do anything until you push the Pepsi button. < 1381196043 302429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to #esoteric, where theoretical computer science is explained using everyday stuff < 1381196407 484143 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't seem like a very good vending machine. < 1381196512 64137 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. < 1381196529 20545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i don't use soda machines, maybe i'm naïve here < 1381197197 627379 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381199333 877507 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any language that I have become interested in that didn't have at least one non-me person in here interested in it as well? < 1381199408 931365 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rebol? < 1381199605 361400 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, probably. Although someone here could be interested and just not in the chat, because it's non-IRC < 1381199609 725733 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Stackoverflow Chat) < 1381202998 743332 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381203368 381949 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381203392 163740 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: what brings you back here < 1381203469 22506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess i can preänswer a question like that as far as lexande goes < 1381203578 597620 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves to lexande?
< 1381203687 247586 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waves to Fiora?
< 1381203700 621231 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: people need a place to go? < 1381203725 293391 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381203742 357991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's about that, isn't it. < 1381203784 210295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this gossip < 1381203799 511374 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not aware of any gossip < 1381203811 244725 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not sure what preänswer shachaf was alluding too < 1381203819 540999 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one you said < 1381203861 135399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "that" is gossip i'm thinking < 1381203882 738596 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381203888 728739 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that people need a place to go is gossip? < 1381203903 733970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the thing shachaf said is! possibly. < 1381203924 178988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1381203956 352228 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know anything except vague rumors of things involving kmc and lexande and alice and other people < 1381203992 57577 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: do you know alice? < 1381204018 256185 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is alice? < 1381204030 533795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see. < 1381204041 989150 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... third hand or something <.< < 1381204267 262274 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see what? < 1381204314 119092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is truly important in this life. < 1381205194 841076 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381206784 970167 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381207083 368849 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381207622 737764 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381209392 553790 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381209425 973688 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381209696 972293 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381212784 388047 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381213173 66856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381213711 238213 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381213878 426020 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: I will be back, back in byellow < 1381214547 889742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1381214558 309097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never met alice < 1381214574 789972 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's that? < 1381214581 727767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry about it. < 1381214588 895339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a convo going on before you arrived < 1381214589 40855 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okeydokey < 1381214603 675175 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so. I'll look it up in the log < 1381214658 306126 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1381214820 947083 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381215193 125192 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 QUIT :Quit: impomatic < 1381215307 723900 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: maybe you should come to NYC sometime < 1381215415 897587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381215443 494669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I have lower affinity for aeroplanes than I used to :/ < 1381215449 231121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still, yes < 1381215482 629298 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could take the TRAAAAAIN < 1381215547 935368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long < 1381215885 453518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could Work From Train though < 1381215906 918468 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how the 4G coverage is along that route < 1381215951 439907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have fewer Gs than that anyway < 1381215958 401386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I should fix that before such a trip < 1381216113 193824 :oklofok!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216241 803782 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381216392 193544 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216398 987821 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you had a sprint LTE thing < 1381216440 325947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't your cellular phone have that many Gs just in its name < 1381216526 723079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :galagzy neggsus? < 1381216569 643531 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381216583 699560 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216599 356271 :Vorpal_!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1381216641 727989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's the EVO 4G but in this case 4G = WiMAX = sucks < 1381216670 546662 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216670 546738 :ineiros_!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216670 870565 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381216977 319725 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381217032 61721 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it compare to HSPA+ < 1381217051 714703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1381217060 302192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about... phones, and stuff < 1381217174 746029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was under the impression that HSPA+ was just 3.75G. < 1381217230 745772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can round that up to 4G < 1381217236 899397 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also round 3G to 4G < 1381217344 720842 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, some guy on the osdev forums seems to consistently use "winchester" as the word for hard drive < 1381217353 123224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha that's oldschool < 1381217501 646123 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The IBM 3340 Direct Access Storage Facility, code-named Winchester, was introduced in March 1973 for use with IBM System/370." < 1381217542 419883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was supposed to be something about them being as loud as a Winchester rifle < 1381217607 848381 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently because it was 30+30MB and .30-30 is a rifle model < 1381218164 293708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1381218175 630667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is meant by "30+30MB" < 1381218201 426497 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :two disk packs of 30 MB that could be swapped, or something < 1381218207 368342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1381218277 52646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also a 3.9G something. < 1381218282 688977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an access time of 25 milliseconds" < 1381218311 624884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusingly that number has barely improved in 40 years, if you exclude SSDs < 1381218328 525827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/wd0s1 and so on. < 1381218380 286971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For Western Digital, even though presumably most of the disks so called haven't even seen one.) < 1381218445 771785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The name 'Winchester' and some derivatives are still common in some non-English speaking countries to generally refer to any hard disks (e.g. Hungary, Russia)," claims Wikipedia. < 1381218504 645860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A merevlemez (az egykori angol elnevezés alapján winchester-nek is), mely az adatokat mágnesezhető réteggel bevont lemezeken tárolja, melyet a forgó lemez fölött mozgó író/olvasó fej ír vagy olvas." < 1381219080 883061 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :cray x-mp came with an (optional) 1GB/s SSD (the way I read it, 2GB/s if you use both I/O channels) < 1381219090 628380 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :... holds up surprisingly well compared to modern SSDs (though of course that SSD's probably the size of a room, the prize of a bus and only 1GB big) < 1381219125 879431 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've heard 'winsu' once or twice but I guess the heretical 'kovo' is the Standard™ nowadays. < 1381219203 914008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language? < 1381219290 331425 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish. < 1381220254 729337 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird to think that such a ubiquitous word as "software" was a kind of punny coinage 50 years ago < 1381220289 381808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't think I've heard "winsu" ever. ("kovo", yes.) < 1381220356 22364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some have strong opinions on how the latter should not be used for anything else than the building material. < 1381223446 265734 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381224733 995411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1381227900 300874 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381229775 965447 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381230773 678231 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381230880 987834 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381232100 973099 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381232252 704558 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381232919 899734 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381232924 319804 :Zerker_!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381233083 766605 :carado_!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381233446 337121 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381233741 181747 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1381234124 898227 :Zerker_!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381234248 300016 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381234296 179064 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234479 916766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234515 158030 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234646 257828 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1381234720 151287 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381234741 741838 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381234896 874967 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235246 188031 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235360 921162 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381235369 278417 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good zsh morning! < 1381236873 192038 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good scsh afternoon. < 1381237203 456787 :Zerker!~zerker@2602:306:bd53:9ef0:4535:ac36:28a0:b685 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPad - Timeout (10 minutes) < 1381237551 481590 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: people use it? < 1381237656 225050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(besides, the main dev seems to be one hell of a grumpy person.) < 1381237726 154742 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381237818 811774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't implying that. < 1381237879 125613 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381237890 969183 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.22 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381237891 879407 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1381238221 773693 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381238607 864035 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381238819 873243 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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JWinslow23 < 1381245227 736039 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23 is a Wisconsinite who doesn't give a BF. < 1381245251 723748 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will soon make a truth machine in TicTacToe! < 1381246423 511676 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381246582 221234 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246923 883440 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246924 66297 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1381246924 66431 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1381246930 564580 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381247098 929622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell lexande http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0 < 1381247099 75079 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1381247265 743643 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this shit < 1381247315 733377 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what inspires me is teaching JavaScript to African refugees < 1381247414 163528 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sister was talking about that recently < 1381247437 146879 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has some other great stuff as well. < 1381247468 938918 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381248428 307574 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://safr.kingfeatures.com/idn/etv/zone/xml/content.php?file=aHR0cDovL3NhZnIua2luZ2ZlYXR1cmVzLmNvbS9CbG9uZGllLzIwMTMvMTAvQmxvbmRpZS4yMDEzMTAwM185MDAuZ2lm hm < 1381248470 454091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1381248474 225070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to make it giant. < 1381248679 664129 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever had sea cheesy baked potatoes < 1381248679 952659 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381249170 952639 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, the guy after him completely seriously said that "history shows that the countries that explore have the highest standard of living" < 1381249320 373019 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381249729 696769 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381249774 317 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381250536 311823 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381250843 822098 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1381250857 530081 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow by only being on this channel once a year < 1381250859 939177 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got into the pdf < 1381250860 380088 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric : GCC: -Os -O2 -O3 gives a 4x improvment < 1381250865 95814 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha i was like, 10 then < 1381250865 646426 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1381250953 607931 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the shanty wasn't half bad. < 1381251002 809211 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelogs addquote.*asie < 1381251051 812573 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.9344 < 1381251079 583495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie: are you twelve < 1381251087 340993 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"like, 10" < 1381251089 29853 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was actually 14 < 1381251119 468499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run dc -e '[a=]P?[b=]P?[dSarLa%d0 Style Editor -> New -> img {transform: rotate(90deg);)} < 1381254942 870468 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: I was born and moved around on an island a bit and haven't yet noticed myself being dead < 1381254950 186385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sayeth the prophecies < 1381254959 765027 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381254979 670067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: The British Experience < 1381254989 268719 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381254999 37338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i "i can't speak to her intestines" < 1381255005 319802 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1381255009 49163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haneb < 1381255029 172126 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1381255205 97905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tonjour. < 1381255241 585751 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imnqso, speaking to intestines, be they yours or someone else's, is not a good idea. < 1381255250 285939 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, my programming lectures are pretty... basic < 1381255255 721875 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Python-ish < 1381255265 922535 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you expect otherwise < 1381255379 123528 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you one of the hexham people < 1381255402 799393 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? lexande < 1381255405 1400 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande? ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1381255405 592976 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite the question < 1381255408 46179 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am the only Hexham person left < 1381255413 500175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dying breed < 1381255434 728679 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LastOfHisKind < 1381255474 629611 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a failure to hexhamkind < 1381255496 568365 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never been to hexham. i've been to wylam, that's on the way sort of < 1381255529 638166 :nooodl!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381255533 757597 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1381255540 27876 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wylam is a bit past Hexham < 1381255601 531946 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean if i were going to hexham, i'd presumably fly to either london or newcastle, and the train to hexham would take me via wylam < 1381255611 917399 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is on the way < 1381255659 266473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know way too much about north-east england for your own good < 1381255723 397857 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got that tyne and wear metro < 1381255729 379946 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, I was thinking of Warden < 1381255860 762917 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Tyne and Wear Metro goes nowhere near Hexham < 1381255883 950368 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to know of north-eastern places in the world is an essential survival skill. < 1381256029 718188 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm disappointed with myself for never visiting Bletchley Park < 1381256106 141905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I wasn't that into crypto until a yearish ago < 1381256280 44798 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256313 155470 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256416 65058 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i know, but elliott expanded the scope of discussion to the whole northeast < 1381256480 912139 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381256487 167035 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1381256487 369778 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1381256503 475427 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i have more reason to be disappointed with myself for never visiting bletchley park < 1381256505 293846 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you know about this < 1381256538 985766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you've been in london more? < 1381256541 936835 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that the Tyne and Wear Metro is one of only two metros in the world to have a station on the same line in two different ways? < 1381256565 309964 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1381256596 888870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you mean < 1381256615 152003 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is the London Underground the other one (Euston), or did I misunderstand the restriction? < 1381256669 237251 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it would be better to say self-intersecting, self-paralleling things are more common (e.g. Circle Line at Paddington) < 1381256690 969079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the two Northern Line branches aren't really the same line < 1381256695 433176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of the fact that there are two Hammersmith-bound platforms on the circle line at Edgware Road < 1381256724 729236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not to be confused with the other Edgware Road station next door) < 1381256726 734743 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, Tyne&Wear and Vancouver Skytrain half self-intersection < 1381256728 182541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: well it fits the restriction of connecting to the same line two different ways better than most situations < 1381256732 648782 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/half/have/ < 1381256818 247775 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-34.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381256882 379161 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381256977 103027 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :RandstadRail, if you count that, also has such a pretzel topology in Zoetermeer < 1381257081 108959 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381257195 876364 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381257425 199076 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a half self-intersection possible? < 1381257526 337770 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe we can claim these are all half-self-intersection < 1381257554 175116 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since in each case there are two lines sharing track in one part of the station, and only one of them loops back around to the other part of the station < 1381258214 492774 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also singapore is building a pretzel-like self-intersecting line but it seems there will be no transfer station at the crossing < 1381258305 975421 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....? < 1381258367 598757 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :……… < 1381258395 375638 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ldots{} < 1381258421 319218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reread your assertion. no station, therefore no transfer. I was puzzled over the fact that you couldn't change lines at a station. < 1381258447 845786 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fsvo line) < 1381258662 607001 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an audition tomorrow < 1381258671 595508 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am auditioning for Jesus Christ Superstar < 1381259098 146657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Bletchley Park (even got the T-shirt) while visiting London in 2011; 'twas an interesting place. < 1381259103 429753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp.jpg <- that's from there. < 1381259125 724641 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381259263 62961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn. and there I naïvely hoped that the picture contained fizzie himself. < 1381259279 711153 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, 5 bit wide paper: is that baudot? < 1381259279 856731 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the source of fungot. (It's not.) < 1381259280 96632 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: try a new tack..." cases where test is doing something to x? else..." < 1381259310 725107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could well be. < 1381259351 825034 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp2.jpg <- that's where it's from, if it helps. < 1381259522 872076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh and I think I may have pasted this one before for obvious reasons: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp3.jpg < 1381259534 743745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the one we've got on channel is a preceding or a succeeding model. < 1381259594 228432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it all depends if he's older or younger than himself. < 1381259602 799655 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/if/on if/ < 1381259904 472971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then there was this ridiculous thing https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131008-bp4.jpg how they kept people from pressing that button I'll never know. < 1381260068 701904 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1381260169 278501 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome bicyclidine < 1381260173 487123 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09bicyclid10ine13: W10elcome to the international hub f09or esoteri08c programming language de12s02ign 05and 07depl07oyment! For more infor06mation, 04c09heck o10u02t our wiki:05 htt10p://es07olan12gs.org/wiki/Main_Page.06 (For13 the ot12her kind of esoterica14, try #esot14eric on irc.dal.net.) < 1381260181 951195 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :disregard the welcome. you didn't see nothing. < 1381260194 366140 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disregarded < 1381260288 856380 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381260357 935147 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> length "bicyclidine" < 1381260358 925826 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 11 < 1381260365 971608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (11+4)/2 < 1381260366 885918 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : 7.5 < 1381260370 485505 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almostike < 1381260451 153967 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381260499 805559 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1381260508 609655 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1381260510 192176 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1381260634 690916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipédia doesn't have bicyclidine, but suggests eticyclidine → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eticyclidine < 1381260756 921891 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381261003 719534 :nooodl_!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381261208 350485 :nooodl!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381261324 510357 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381261347 471932 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381261477 320696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381261537 19055 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-191.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381261989 440723 :bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: [spurious input; ignoring] < 1381262292 14250 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381262348 227967 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone fancy typing this listing into a C64 emulator? http://concoctedlogic.com/wordpress/commodore-64-core-war/ < 1381262686 520639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you could OCR that. (In not many more magnitudes of time than it'd take to type it, but it's the principle that matters.) < 1381262929 424807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/DJLC <- tessearct with no tuning. "Not too shabby, eh?" < 1381262949 820349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the words are even correct. < 1381262980 289001 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1381263105 102767 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like a weird glitchy fungot remix... < 1381263105 365956 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: thanks anyway dude :) looks like a guy < 1381263114 486552 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: np. < 1381263114 917540 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you see what i mean is, if your messages happen to go into a particular package? < 1381263138 677463 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you have packages? < 1381263138 879032 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: by " imports", do you want < 1381263148 613155 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. so you're a python program in disguise. < 1381263148 978534 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: bugs are tasty.') it plainly refuses to work though < 1381263162 725951 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: well, that's what bugs are for. < 1381263194 574507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you lied to us! fungot's written in python! < 1381263230 86104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/OchK <- cuneiform --dotmatrix < 1381263239 67645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Maybe that's just what it wants you to think? < 1381263287 676936 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you trust fizzie's opinion on your true identity? < 1381263296 883418 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you really an "it"? you shouldn't let fizzie talk about you like this < 1381263297 284121 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they're have better latency but worse throughput ( unlikely) or it wasn't taught properly ( likely) the reporter is mixed up < 1381263341 700711 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: indeed. the Reporter Fizzie is mixed up, and wasn't taught properly. < 1381263474 683639 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, just for completeness... gocr: http://sprunge.us/UeHB < 1381263569 944869 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381263579 605239 :shikhin`!~Shikhin@120.59.110.81 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381263892 466686 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can you OCR the code? fizzie doesn't seem to be succeeding < 1381263892 671661 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so i imagined the correct thing to do indeed :) < 1381264285 132059 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: poulet, poulet, poulet, poulet, still not poulet. < 1381264287 220359 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381264440 815448 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1381264675 869233 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381265058 717725 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net QUIT :Quit: hello < 1381265569 569325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381266210 188884 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381266366 311379 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381266425 605972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Mixed-language-link-time-optimization is really cool < 1381266453 574272 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1381266464 192329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross-language inlining and dead store elimination < 1381267594 225818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1381267801 615067 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I haven't made debugging particularly easy for me... my "kernel panic" thingy just prints the line number in hex < 1381268136 124600 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381268190 217568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the nobel prize went to the people who invented the higgs particle, not to any of those who showed it actually existed. i guess that's usual... < 1381268243 81126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i wonder what they'll do if, as seems inevitable eventually, a theory isn't proved until after all the theorizers are dead... < 1381268275 380710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :string theory might end up that way. < 1381268316 982791 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381268349 346028 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1381268373 976790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they _haven't_ given any nobel prizes for string theory, have they < 1381268424 433701 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381268503 242890 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381268841 983049 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :physicists should be more like biologists, clearly < 1381268900 283474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what _does_ kovo mean, originally? (also winsu i guess?) < 1381268921 161068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gt only gives "hardware" < 1381268924 768529 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how people have been pointing out that the 1926 nobel prize went for research that is actually completely wrong < 1381269001 674598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it true that both syllables of "ørjan" are stressed < 1381269028 343570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: um which one < 1381269098 897321 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in physiology, i meant < 1381269117 740515 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :guy got the prize for showing that cancer was caused by this little worm thingie < 1381269160 135262 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a nematode, huh < 1381269180 852107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: hm it's in the second pitch accent, which i guess has the two syllables more "equal" than the first one, although i'm not sure they're completely equal. < 1381269218 193608 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's obvious short for "kovalevy" (lit. "hard(sheet/slab/disc/record)"), which properly speaking should mean a kind of a building material (particleboard, fiberboard, HDF; the details are a bit hazy) but is used widely (arguably incorrectly) for a computer hard disk too. (For which the (again arguably) proper word is "kiintolevy".) < 1381269232 139845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, i was told that norwegian was easy < 1381269270 716153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to pronounce? < 1381269286 971315 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general < 1381269348 258018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's analytic, so not _too_ many inflections, but it does have gender. < 1381269396 915537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe a _little_ harder than english in grammar. not quite as awful spelling. < 1381269419 8501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier than german grammar. < 1381269421 237435 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what!! what is a power series of a language < 1381269503 790708 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy enough to take the derivative of a language < 1381269504 407226 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1381269557 361375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Institute (for the Languages (of Finland)) seems to accept "kovalevy" as a synonym of "kiintolevy". But not everyone does. < 1381269732 299176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well kiinto means "solid", so clearly kiintolevy should mean a _solid_ disk, i.e. SSD. < 1381269742 973798 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381269758 39830 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1381269798 193663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait there's no disk in an SSD < 1381270239 635660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:11:12: fungot: are you antireflective? < 1381270239 780974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:11:12: boily: extend a protective arm/ symbian/ series60. :p diamondie well, isn't that enough? ummm......what were we talking about again? huh....really? < 1381270239 931503 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let me guess: it creates the bf programs out there are made from c, java, or python, or ruby.)) < 1381270240 76844 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: invalid syntax define a way to not explicitly call eval? < 1381270262 435380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tried to reflect, and was repulsed. i'd say yes. < 1381270305 707204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i'm not sure there are converters from all of those. < 1381270305 904581 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a windows driver loader thingy? yes, guile itself is slow too.) < 1381270418 694390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "levy" does not imply a (round) disc in Finnish, though, and SSD's are generally more or less slab-like, so it still fits. < 1381270644 517600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SSD-massamuisti" is what fi.wikipedia calls a SSD. < 1381270655 140194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good, good. your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to get all finns to follow this more logical terminology. < 1381270678 357833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And the "D" could be for "drive" too. Though how logical is that?) < 1381270682 151606 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381270739 975198 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not the SSD-massamuisti one) < 1381270801 574069 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381270895 737641 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381271531 452406 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381272283 727121 :nooodl_!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381272798 402616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this image is just designed to get me to stand my laptop up like a book right <-- ouch my neck < 1381272893 454143 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1381273295 907933 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381273392 169869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: eek < 1381273657 754392 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1381273785 90016 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> cycle "IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA " < 1381273786 84654 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd PRIVMSG #esoteric : "IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE MWAHAHAHA IT'S ALIVE ... < 1381273819 472943 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you alive < 1381273819 745862 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was talking about /real/ ants. i'll have to take < 1381273834 297327 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot'll have to take < 1381273834 580291 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we have mutable fnord, though. that whole code-is-data thing doesn't mean that they do < 1381273952 851849 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for chips and for freedom I could die < 1381274025 604600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you _don't_ want your fnords to mutate. trust me. < 1381274025 758652 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: @quote fungot < 1381274026 47236 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: number42 annotated 308 with " expansion by gambit of previous code" at http://www.common-lisp.net/ paste/ 490 < 1381274026 192682 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: just as you don't let on, you're jafar hello, sailor < 1381274205 546116 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.176 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381274604 135462 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381275134 854274 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381275445 582751 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381276113 231204 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381276818 338130 :augur!~augur@ip-64-134-240-172.public.wayport.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381276884 350499 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381277051 845241 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381277825 22210 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381277851 952470 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381278629 778714 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381278714 570338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf rain < 1381278729 810878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: halp < 1381278779 380857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is happy this downpour didn't happen earlier this evening when he was outside
< 1381278887 101203 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381278971 677589 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279058 104039 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381279092 714620 :shikhin!~Shikhin@120.56.229.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279096 856926 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1381279097 2621 :shikhin!~Shikhin@120.56.229.135 QUIT :Changing host < 1381279097 2765 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279119 577469 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279277 408927 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381279297 952889 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279366 421463 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279461 715906 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381279570 267622 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381279607 906508 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381280269 2111 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381280389 736329 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381280635 529859 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381280795 240295 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381280795 712031 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381280929 6712 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381281652 356347 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381281722 166003 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381283001 565425 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381283387 461162 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stock market crash kills 49" < 1381283501 579974 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381283548 164174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the US government tends to value human life around $6M - $9M < 1381283566 634674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the stock market destroys $500M of value then I guess that's as bad as killing 49 people < 1381283579 896025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's hard to say how much value is really destroyed (or created!) from a huge notional shift in prices < 1381283638 933977 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sw9Fh6uk4Q < 1381283698 490057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in a country where your healthcare is tied to your job, it's pretty easy for a stock market crash to directly result in people dying < 1381283734 149720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1381284261 337345 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381285505 328985 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381286345 218295 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 PART :#esoteric < 1381287086 166459 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-81-150-146.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has apartment. is good
< 1381288383 462873 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381288419 920052 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381288546 25542 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1381288553 819218 :augur_!~augur@208.58.5.87 NICK :augur < 1381288639 426630 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1381288897 944488 :rodgort`!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1381288953 975753 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 162707 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 162905 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 308955 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 534730 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-glkcnavviziaxwmv QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 680230 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288954 863470 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381288955 9226 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@64.31.59.246 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1381289098 862802 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1381289118 735508 :yiyus!1242712427@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1381289149 791852 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1381290422 40442 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381294077 268432 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1381294493 883940 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1381294612 326618 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381294983 190843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381295029 942683 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case anyone wants to know what your browser does with https sites with revoked certificates: < 1381295030 389060 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://lavabit.com/?8-oct-2013 < 1381295048 655874 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome won't let me past < 1381295985 694011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming you cannot fake a revocation for someone else (a tall assumption, i know) that seems reasonable - the genuine site owner has no reason to use the old one, so it's essentially _sure_ to be malicious. < 1381296256 679916 :ggherdov!uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ernjipeuxxzogepx JOIN :#esoteric < 1381296396 122466 :asie!~textual@apn-95-40-151-110.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381296400 37556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1381296455 975690 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1381296594 198136 :asie!~textual@apn-95-40-151-110.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1381296641 324123 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what kind of "r" is the finnish one? < 1381296651 424815 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it rolls, but where < 1381296677 426455 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2071 haha what the christ < 1381297561 956998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it's "officially" an alveolar trill, the plain IPA /r/. I don't know how to describe it in more detail. < 1381297617 157787 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://atashi.org/disorientation/ i feel this sums up my svg experience, somehow < 1381297638 616079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Have to go, bus to catch.) < 1381297882 757389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: wow < 1381297903 124116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a more recent issue (published at Black Hat this year) relating to timing attacks on SVG filters applied to cross-domain iframes < 1381298689 704213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1381299173 323907 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 923 < 1381299177 928274 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 923: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1381299185 795925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Thanks! < 1381299190 821975 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1381299268 458204 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381299324 528182 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1381299367 109014 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dbcwrgungpsydayq QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381299447 511828 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381299477 233677 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381300000 141829 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381300063 258795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1381300293 969155 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mlkqtueofidkdolv JOIN :#esoteric < 1381302187 244169 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381302472 616518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Diacritical Marks and Peculiar Characters < 1381302598 138619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a children's book? It sounds like one. < 1381302634 448960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+115CE SIDDHAM SECTION MARK WITH RAYS AND DOTTED TRIPLE CRESCENTS < 1381302635 705172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/mrT3Aoa.png < 1381302738 439802 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :new in ISO/IEC 10646:2014 < 1381302759 836215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Universal Character Set < 1381302761 873121 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381302862 503972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be some kind of a project that would extend Unicode (up to some reasonable limit) in all cases where there's e.g. some amount that can vary. For example, the above would immediately lead to SIDDHAM SECTION MARK WITH RAYS AND DOTTED QUADRUPLE CRESCENTS and so on, for (let's say) 1..10 crescents. Both DOTTED and not. < 1381302908 777625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it exists already. < 1381302966 358357 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it doesn't. It's just the rayless undotted version goes up higher. < 1381302981 97534 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there you go, then. All combinations all the time, that's my motto. < 1381303355 972402 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381303358 212329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1381303895 667832 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381304472 581351 :kmc_!~keegan@home.pointlesstopology.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1381304580 15504 :kmc_!~keegan@home.pointlesstopology.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anyone else having trouble accessing EC2 machines and/or http://amazon.com < 1381305027 979384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp my ISP refuses to talk to amazon for some reason < 1381305157 672600 :kmc_!~keegan@home.pointlesstopology.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381305169 984122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck that guy < 1381305289 50113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo kmc_ > kmc < 1381305299 700043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1381305331 703914 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (compare `on` length) "kmc_" "kmc" < 1381305347 174364 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot more like lambdanot < 1381305355 12694 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is lambdabot is not here) < 1381305397 377774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :another joke is that i'm tired < 1381305402 616493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hugs shachaf
< 1381305577 405937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see you say that to my face!! < 1381305611 809575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would... < 1381305625 688926 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1381305629 892278 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1381305644 972090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i move to noe valley < 1381305658 259628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmm < 1381305673 901781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why noe valley in particular? < 1381305687 282178 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the real question is, why noe < 1381305693 372251 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1381305725 407286 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a good place "knows nothing about san francisco" < 1381305808 97635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1381306497 376854 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :san francisco is a good plac < 1381306498 162772 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1381306510 446429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you looking at an apartment in noe valley < 1381306528 253819 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381306746 80472 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not looking at anything right now < 1381308323 327975 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PART :#esoteric < 1381309898 368255 :Hyphen-ated!~hyphen@c-76-105-241-190.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381310159 597091 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1381310630 594731 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1381312003 40073 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381312834 320401 :S1_!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381312839 290263 :S1_!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PART :#esoteric < 1381313568 899434 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381313862 466393 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381313986 352132 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381315731 240081 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381315740 495702 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1381315755 320885 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got an audition this evening < 1381315987 828651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to grip firmly both electrodes of the e-meter. < 1381316013 201375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, audition, not auditing. < 1381316141 123473 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The play is apparently a darker version of Jesus Christ Superstar < 1381316342 533461 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? how can you be darker than jesus christ superstar < 1381316396 520752 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1381316474 342971 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know but they have a pretty big budget < 1381317231 385691 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah! < 1381317240 602599 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to ask you guys a question < 1381317277 612071 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got an algebraic proof that p | (p & q) == p but it is a bit long < 1381317374 610364 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a nice short proof? < 1381317405 257488 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, make 2 cases :p < 1381317421 893327 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or distibution < 1381317498 132963 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather do it with one case < 1381317509 712111 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my proof with distribution requires ten steps < 1381317513 764003 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I require food, bbl < 1381317543 450745 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381317560 31391 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1: p = true: true | x = true, p | (p & q) = true = p < 1381317588 997166 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. p = false: false | x = x, p | (p & q) = p & q = false & q = false = p < 1381317688 886750 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1381318753 709784 :nooodl!~nooodl@58.179-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1381320831 765683 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381321845 30874 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381322058 165174 :S1!8d1fe87a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.141.31.232.122 PART :#esoteric < 1381322179 320839 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381322683 65196 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1381322709 719698 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381322719 280117 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381322971 763027 :augur!~augur@208.58.5.87 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1381323126 651599 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381323696 423517 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381323804 902270 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381323923 877097 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorickvp < 1381324305 176993 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1381324735 502431 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.111.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381324849 810914 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381325267 882934 :Taneb!~androirc@nas102-146.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1381326193 581083 :Taneb!~androirc@nas102-146.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1381326347 335876 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381326679 341319 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381326891 856126 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1381327201 250876 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381328418 753947 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/10/09/foot_soldier_declares_war_on_sanctimonious_cyclists_dimanno.html "For you to read with a straight face" < 1381328545 679053 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt manage < 1381328562 798560 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1381328627 812295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought there weren't bike lanes in the big T. < 1381328782 523572 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to read that with naught but a single isolated smirl < 1381329117 515747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: can I ~duck smirl? < 1381329143 766957 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh all right < 1381329148 391872 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just this once, you understand < 1381329420 752304 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1381329436 16359 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, also i started a new fortress on a glacier < 1381329442 686605 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1381329452 789512 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far it's been p. boring so i'm planning on piping the magma sea over it < 1381329517 609998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if i'll have the wood for the reactors though < 1381329644 421289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: thanks! < 1381329646 618229 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck smirl < 1381329646 908157 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1381329663 274514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks ~duck in the duckads.
< 1381329682 909250 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: use caverns to get wood < 1381329701 508219 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no coal here either < 1381329704 757667 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have access to sand you can use three wood to make a screw pump < 1381329714 600696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd need steel and a standing military to get into the caverns safely < 1381329715 169231 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A magma-safe one, at that < 1381329729 3893 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm on a glacier, Taneb. < 1381329734 198986 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have access to sand < 1381329743 603136 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trade for it? < 1381329762 94485 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have plentiful iron, i'll use that for the pump stack itself < 1381329806 705381 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like a weird crossover between minecraft, DF and catan... < 1381329826 661088 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it is, in a 0:1:0 ratio < 1381329880 2915 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to work on my fortress < 1381329891 651587 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But my computer is a couple of miles away < 1381329909 395902 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've modded anthracite in again... < 1381329918 593819 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I need to practice for my audition in an hour and a half < 1381330225 116922 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to set an ssh server on my computer and figure out how to get to it from here < 1381330251 283947 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, is there any way I could play DF graphically remotely? < 1381330267 771182 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferably installing as little as possible on the client PC < 1381330322 506235 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do X11 forwarding with putty? < 1381330327 696772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could� yeah, that < 1381330334 649818 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :could even use dfhack i guess? < 1381330352 699974 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dfhack is now absolutely mandatory btw, it incorporates a heap of unofficial bugfixes) < 1381330381 94775 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfterm looks promising < 1381330442 952815 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfhack didn't work without x, did it? < 1381330629 343530 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, dfterm is written in Haskell < 1381330629 773821 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381330654 130777 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, but it spawns df in a new window iirc < 1381330667 268750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, dfterm < 1381330668 303534 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvmd < 1381330683 312007 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll see if I can set that up tonight < 1381330728 186548 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in aur :( < 1381330741 658971 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, dfhack works on windows and in general works by adding hooks to libSDL, so...? < 1381330764 200255 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1381330772 208774 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to play df via ssh < 1381330888 397496 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381330915 560755 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows X servers are the bests. < 1381330939 288731 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381330957 631497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The university had a campus-wide license to one of the proprietary ones, possibly Exceed. Not sure if they still do. < 1381330968 139578 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381331090 976361 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep wanting your morning dew...You're my pizza man, my pizza man. I like spastic golden toys. Keep wanting your morning dew... This huge pizza's made with cheese and broccoli! < 1381331100 375566 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lyrics of the best song ever! < 1381331174 928728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jwinshellow23. < 1381331182 173041 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you sing? < 1381331182 467409 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what's an ircat, i wonder... if i remember what they mean.) poor me. < 1381331199 526479 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, i do sing! < 1381331364 101991 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381331380 537977 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I do not like the Python language < 1381331387 436282 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to, but now I do not < 1381331402 676676 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the falling out? < 1381331435 540390 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I didn't touch it for like two years and now I am being forced to < 1381331452 23620 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :♫♪♩♬♫♪♩♬♫♪♩♬♫♪♩♬♫♪♩♬♫♪♩♬ Everybody sing! < 1381331457 408799 :mnoqy!~okay@pool-98-108-206-66.snloca.dsl-w.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1381331474 797526 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can cope, but watching the person next to me debug his code only to find that he had mispelt current_converter halfway down is kinda saddening < 1381331485 938886 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I couldn't figure out how to serialize data < 1381331524 687069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: you should get kmc to form a choir. < 1381331527 843385 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: pickle. < 1381331533 376933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mnelloqy. < 1381331549 191230 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the pickle docs are confusing < 1381331558 580955 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Pink Floyd < 1381331564 289541 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :990) and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1381331591 668734 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I know I had to serialize data a long time ago. I completely forgot how I managed that. < 1381331608 910460 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381331650 758617 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit, the logistics in this fortress are way too fucked to get anything done < 1381331697 96007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you don't have no binary blobs, you could use json. otherwise, probably something along the lines of protobufs and/or *gasp* ASN.1. < 1381331849 717824 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help quote < 1381331850 130350 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1381331869 123934 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Tic Tac Toe < 1381331871 48438 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381331880 848529 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote TicTacToe < 1381331882 666439 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1381331888 640152 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang it! < 1381332023 235544 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Pink Floyd < 1381332025 198093 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :990) and then one day you find, ten years have got behind you, no one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun ♫ ♫ ♫ ♫ (Unicode needs a character specifically for "Pink Floyd guitar solo") < 1381332107 927034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :building out dfterm3. good thing the sandboxes exist in 1.18. fscking stupid de câl*sse de annoying cabal dependency hell de maudit qu'ils sont pas foutus d'avoir réglé ça messemble que c't'évident. < 1381332150 485327 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: is your language specified yet? < 1381332160 278356 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cabal dependency hell it changed the language boily was speaking in < 1381332183 740291 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, my language is specified. < 1381332369 925373 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaah < 1381332376 458876 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audition in less than an hour < 1381332442 753133 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only an audition. what can go wrong? (modulo your head suddenly quantum tunneling into an infinity of brainfuck derivatives, but that's easily cured by two Aspirins and a glass of Arcturan mega-water.) < 1381332510 593076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you auditioning for < 1381332556 826111 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Jesus Christ Superstar < 1381332625 122675 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you auditioning for jesus christ < 1381332636 125799 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just auditioning in general < 1381332649 636329 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I would not mind recieving the role of Jesus Christ < 1381332704 71388 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: somewhere public? < 1381332751 467414 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if I get the role will you come to York to watch it < 1381332767 427703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes (no) < 1381332772 819576 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know where york is < 1381332783 826654 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only you had come to birmingham < 1381332797 599154 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know where Hexham is relative to Edinburgh? < 1381332841 692338 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because Edinburgh -> York is twice that vector < 1381332842 679461 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :y...es < 1381332863 900459 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not in edinburgh < 1381332879 236087 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, do you know where Coventry is relative to Edinburgh? < 1381332924 392127 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Coventry -> Edinburgh + 2 * Edinburgh -> Hexham < 1381332981 65125 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, myname, at http://esolangs.org/wiki/Tic_Tac_Toe < 1381332982 718408 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope you like vectors < 1381333037 856262 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, still a bf derivate < 1381333073 992755 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, york is on the train line i take from coventry to edinburgh < 1381333086 365777 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: my first language was a bf second derivative < 1381333088 454165 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: cool < 1381333100 101488 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know how to make a stack-based 8 command language to base it off of. < 1381333127 884206 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am going to find the audition room now < 1381333131 414875 :Taneb!90208049@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.73 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D/L/036 < 1381333135 267626 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23, this seems kind of boring < 1381333176 160388 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if you played against some fixed ai or something and its moves corresponded to the executed instructions < 1381333307 450251 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1381333310 570028 :JWinslow23!d83851e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.56.81.226 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1381333418 988687 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz... < 1381337424 348426 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381337899 62210 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the espresso was manly. < 1381338802 390767 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381339012 583442 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1381339272 334438 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381339545 77578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU Make 4.0 is out and it has an embedded Scheme interpreter now: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/make-w32/2013-10/msg00021.html < 1381339651 605895 :^v!~DerpHerp@c-71-238-152-180.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1381339816 846671 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:7488:1d7:e41f:f45c JOIN :#esoteric < 1381339919 272579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381340008 319308 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381340313 171392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 923 < 1381340314 929569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 923: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1381340356 680007 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1381340358 383730 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1381340485 349261 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan why did you pastold me? (pastelogs + @tell, conflagrated) < 1381340513 964646 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. no lambda. < 1381340614 489774 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1381340677 504770 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ↑ IEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHLHLHLHLHLHLHLHLHL! < 1381340703 828105 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was the Sound of the Stance of the Caribou, the Deadliest Candian-Fu Technique!) < 1381341033 521739 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dahell? < 1381341037 748687 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you screaming at me about? < 1381341114 315038 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sgeo already `olisted. < 1381341133 707284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yeah but I wasn't here at th time < 1381341134 237845 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should put something in HackEgo for this case. < 1381341136 450205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: aren't you the lambdabot channeler, or am I grossly mistaken? < 1381341141 364186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I did suggest that last tim < 1381341143 868843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1381341178 952366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the emphasis was on "should". Maybe we *should* do that, like you suggested. < 1381341204 584830 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But implementing this sort of thing in HackEgo is annoying. < 1381341296 202439 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381341359 886612 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is glogbot working again yet? < 1381341441 133435 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381342108 457849 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:7488:1d7:e41f:f45c QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1381342162 718434 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1381342782 114128 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1381342799 516783 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :proggit are criticising GNU Make for adopting != as an assignment operator < 1381342810 151883 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see the logic (= for assignment, ! for shell), but it's still a little amusing < 1381342849 489212 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1381344158 860752 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1381344368 794281 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: were you audited? < 1381344399 366148 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1381344419 599008 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.246 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it weird that I prefer beer from cans to beer from bottles? < 1381344543 50961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is beer. it doesn't matter. < 1381344597 619405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you prefer what you prefer, not much more to it < 1381344901 429883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of beer, two days ago I tried a http://brasseursdumonde.com/portfolio-items/seigneur-noir/. it's one fungot of a powerful beer! < 1381344901 728411 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the general trend of it. i find what rms stands for repellant, and so < 1381344919 142004 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: sadly, he does repel a lot of people. < 1381344919 582781 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: man- i don't want to /write/ on a turing machine, i would get some more men! < 1381344967 144106 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: to get more men: the ambition of about half the world's population. maybe more than that. < 1381344967 309550 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how old are you if i get it. < 1381344974 662043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm 24. < 1381345004 171539 :^v!~DerpHerp@2601:4:4500:887:7488:1d7:e41f:f45c JOIN :#esoteric < 1381345096 360538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how old are you < 1381345096 542290 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it's my sadol, functional language < 1381345112 14222 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is that an esolang? also you didn't answer the question < 1381345112 322366 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i don't really look like a klansman? :) what implementation do you use? is it the same person, at least. :) < 1381345341 869108 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how old is the fungot? < 1381345342 150059 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i see it you could just do some regex magick and replace email addresses with something less readable. < 1381345372 808893 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: email addresses are already unparseable enough as they come. < 1381345373 242011 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: but then again i'm planning to use for searches, or maybe even c) but that is the xml family of standards, many of the more direct translation of lambda calculus < 1381345396 301447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xml and lambda calculus... now that is an interesting idea. < 1381345573 373288 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :XSΛT < 1381345872 495221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: < 1381345872 861793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-08-14 11:42:44] ... fungot [n=fungot@qeq4.kyla.fi] has joined #esoteric < 1381345873 7361 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-08-14 11:43:49] < fungot> Hello. I'm a silly bot written in Funge-98, using the STRN, SOCK and FGRN fingerprints, running under RC/Funge-98. < 1381345873 153371 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but is never used. right? doing it the wrong way < 1381345873 298581 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does a difference of fnord and springs with bullets shooting them at different frequencies when struck, iirc. < 1381345901 789813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are used. all the time. < 1381345901 977614 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: can you give me more bandwidth or i'll read /dev/ fnord /dev/ kmem < 1381345914 773888 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ask fizzie :) < 1381345915 354988 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: corba is really easy to use. in code like that published in a finnish newspaper. i didn't believe that, with huge gaps in numbering now and then < 1381345933 550846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That makes it sound like you're going to hack out of your box. < 1381345933 794853 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: a thermal camera would be nice if one could these days rely on gcc's tco < 1381345966 894798 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm not going to buy you a thermal camera. < 1381345967 180432 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to continue off topic, but for the offensive language, constant references to buggery and grain alcohol... < 1381345978 591833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Or booze. < 1381345978 912989 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for being irish sounding like a good idea. that happens when you plug a cat into the kitchen, to watch him argue with a lisper. < 1381345988 302134 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=/dev/fnord of=/dev/kmem < 1381346057 889677 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it's generally not considered nice to fnord kmem, btw < 1381346058 103806 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ( sorry to mention the commonwealth they tend to like descriptive programs < 1381346086 176412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You don't even have any soft bandwidth caps, and getting a fatter pipe would cost more money. < 1381346086 465322 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well deewiant thinks the jump in subr should not be multiplied beyond necessity. william of occam < 1381346087 281151 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: we of the commonwealth are descriptive, eh? < 1381346087 676640 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i was gonna bundle up in srfi form fnord." on the usenet, it's called tv. 3 for two seconds before i can try < 1381346710 343045 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you of the Dectrip Faith, by any chance? < 1381346710 488395 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: did al or oleg write one? < 1381346725 689558 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: don't think so, but you never know with the Gropagas. < 1381346725 835097 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: consider that nested combination again. :( < 1381346739 752656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oooooh, I see. subtle. very subtle. < 1381346740 183380 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's a concatenative ( aka stack based) languages that allow keyword arguments require that they go to the quechua class anymore. /me going to find a hungarian restaurant < 1381346766 263262 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I love you. < 1381347099 437952 :lambdabot!lambdabot@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:fedf:9fdd JOIN :#esoteric < 1381347192 131034 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz... < 1381347351 41194 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1381348154 665571 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1381348360 327550 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1381350757 436065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'I asked some Chromium guys how much of the Pepper API the Flash Pepper plugin used. Their answer was literally "150%."' < 1381350804 18891 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1381351625 26643 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :is anything except chromium adopting that pepper api thing? < 1381351654 389720 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1381351770 912979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1381351784 693138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically a bunch of chromium internals exposed as an API < 1381351808 289555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would be hard for e.g. Firefox to adopt it, and this means we can't implement NaCl either < 1381351812 797377 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1381351832 635689 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is NaCl based on/related to pepper? < 1381351869 549777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, when code running in NaCl wants to talk to the browser / the outside world, it uses Pepper < 1381351873 271192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt and pepper < 1381351957 728992 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pepper is like the system API and NaCl is the runtime/compiler? < 1381351963 429415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1381351979 702686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway some people (disclaimer: i'm not speaking officially on behalf of mozilla {corporation,foundation}, blah blah blah) see Google pushing NaCl over asm.js as an anti-competitive anti-open-web vendor-lockin dick move < 1381351999 894796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that said, there is https://github.com/google/pepper.js < 1381352016 177637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do people often assume you're speaking officially on behalf of mozilla? < 1381352016 570478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will compile NaCl code that calls Pepper APIs into asm.js JavaScript that calls the standard Web APIs < 1381352034 933284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no but it seems a prudent disclaimer because I am employed by Mozilla Corporation < 1381352037 689526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1381352055 940519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I don't know how complete pepper.js is; it certainly sounds like it's not enough to run Flash < 1381352078 444680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mozilla has a way better solution for Flash in the works, which is just to reimplement it in JavaScript < 1381352091 146848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/ < 1381352099 533238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in FF nightlies now I believe < 1381352101 521482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :behind a flag < 1381352114 538575 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does its performance compare on like, flash games and animations? < 1381352129 479634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the thing about /this/ Flash replacement is that apparently it's backed by a large enough organization that it might actually succeed < 1381352135 497996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, unlike Gnash < 1381352170 128775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it reimplements Flash on top of an open standard and a memory safe language < 1381352173 130618 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is cool < 1381352188 184819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think GNU have the resources/momentum to do really any more really large projects < 1381352193 884864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: I don't have numbers, but I saw a live demo last week and it was silky smooth on some real games < 1381352201 862556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how cherry-picked the set of games was < 1381352208 388476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they struggle to keep both gcc and Emacs under control, and Hurd isn't really going anywhere < 1381352249 54330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't know how it does on video (eg YouTube), but I think that shouldn't be hard perf-wise, since you would just send it through to the same code paths that handle