< 1383868818 936493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot quite be bothered to check whether there were any in that quote, though. < 1383868863 695092 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you pondering what ørjan is pondering? < 1383868863 891105 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It must be inordinately taxing to be such a boob. < 1383868873 583017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh, it must be the ø < 1383868876 397014 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain are you pondering what oerjan is pondering? < 1383868876 548039 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :What can I do for fun, Pinky? That's it! I'll send several < 1383868876 699110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bills to Senate for ratification, then veto them all! < 1383868885 752420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats lambdabot -----###
< 1383868887 270597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain did someone break @brain? < 1383868887 421522 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you pondering what I'm pondering? < 1383868895 374224 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@brain where are the pinky quotes? < 1383868895 525169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Promise me something, Pinky. Never breed. < 1383868900 156311 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pinky < 1383868900 307201 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think so, but Kevin Costner with an English accent? < 1383868903 829088 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383868906 367350 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Ah. < 1383868909 718487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list brain < 1383868909 869401 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote provides: quote remember forget ghc fortune yow arr yarr keal b52s pinky brain palomer girl19 v yhjulwwiefzojcbxybbruweejw protontorpedo nixon farber < 1383868914 464416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um does it actually pay any attention to the part after @brain < 1383868922 742516 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Not that I know of. < 1383868929 630933 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who split up Pinky and the Brain? < 1383869018 856925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gregor You should fix the formatted log style not to squeeze consecutive spaces. for quote accuracy, you see. < 1383869019 48189 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1383869131 811975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the separatists < 1383869251 855368 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.127 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383869345 851507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm a separatist myself but i haven't heard of that < 1383869350 858595 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be a different faction < 1383869393 774543 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383869609 901659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : this reminds me a bit of the first graf on http://www.mit.edu/~mitsfs/related-groups.html <-- which graf, and also why didn't they add another I for the nice anagram. < 1383869686 485506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice anagram? < 1383869731 840834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of mitsfs + i < 1383869771 26791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably second last < 1383869778 974000 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they fit in just fine at MIT < 1383869802 827204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how weird. < 1383869908 303599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my old alma mater wasn't the only one to dodge a bullet here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUST < 1383870230 568600 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people pronounce it "mits fiss" or so < 1383870236 644808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't think the connection is un-noticed < 1383870250 156207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's like http://www.reddit.com/r/MarijuanaEnthusiasts <-- XD < 1383870271 307719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :talk about inside joke < 1383870335 696813 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383870363 801941 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383870396 901952 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-143-152.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383870440 168220 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-143-152.washdc.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep < 1383870483 128590 :Slereah!~jackal@ANancy-201-1-4-68.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383870536 565640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boop < 1383870543 505401 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-143-152.washdc.east.verizon.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know of any contests or challenges where a particular language has its syntax "funged" so as to be unrecognizable, with the task of recovering the language by poking at programs? < 1383870621 688342 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383871503 841922 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383871954 710236 :Lymia!~moe@tccd251-160.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383871954 861244 :Lymia!~moe@tccd251-160.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1383871954 861382 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1383872457 921144 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1383872970 510597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1383872992 198080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another awesomely named MIT club is MITBEEF < 1383872994 57217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the beef club < 1383873012 739456 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep boop < 1383873017 519148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they got passes to some huge meat convention that was going on in boston < 1383873019 48103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sweet < 1383873031 326128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a Meat Club which was slightly less focused (I think they served snail at one point) < 1383873042 325203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caltech also had a Hazing Club < 1383873044 295347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :opt-in of course < 1383873091 26660 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383873217 799325 :jarpal!~jamesmart@unaffiliated/totimkopf QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383873267 834347 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383873414 455199 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.theonion.com/articles/freedom-takes-a-hit,33699/ < 1383873435 752907 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383873688 740365 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-143-152.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383873730 446645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1383873737 116211 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if the kmc #drugz thing is getting old < 1383873741 494841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1383873746 23218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have done nothing but encourage it so far < 1383873834 336307 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what should i look for! < 1383873862 932299 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: "does anyone know of any contests or challenges where a particular language has its syntax "funged" so as to be unrecognizable, with the task of recovering the language by poking at programs?" < 1383873873 909106 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefsteak_Club The Sublime Society of Beef Steaks < 1383873882 583319 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEEF AND LIBERTY < 1383874055 679395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: nice < 1383874085 313394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: uh, one of the io.smashthestack.org challenges involves reverse engineering a compiled, obfuscated binary of an interpreter for a stack machine < 1383874092 907171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to then write programs for that machine < 1383874104 566626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't quite sound like what you mean though < 1383874115 339605 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you know of any methodologies for such reverse engineering tasks? < 1383874128 800497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383874157 395330 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383874259 210614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know much about the general practice of RE, no < 1383874280 944326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean "look at the code and figure out what it does" < 1383874283 201905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very satisfying < 1383874312 643473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are tools that will find basic blocks, build control flow graphs, express them as pseudo-C, let you assign names to variables as you figure them out, etc < 1383874342 925517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://hex-rays.com/products/ida/index.shtml is the gold standard of RE tools; http://www.hopperapp.com/ is getting a lot of good press lately < 1383874357 315348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://radare.org also looks quite cool < 1383874361 71977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't used any of them < 1383874380 3443 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things usually depend on knowledge of the code structure tho < 1383874382 734401 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383874386 833792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i did use the freeware version of IDA for DOS to reverse engineer a late 20th century French-Canadian apothecary sign < 1383874396 255798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the code was not obfuscated at all < 1383874406 82442 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine instead if you found a language where all the tokens were permuted with random things < 1383874427 821404 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that it looked like line noise < 1383874441 429970 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you figure out what a program in such a language did? < 1383874468 357489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of a cryptanalysis problem < 1383874476 80986 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not quite < 1383874497 128222 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptanalysis doesnt let you probe the program however you want < 1383874518 329645 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a blackbox compiler/interpreter, and some example programs < 1383874547 415456 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, as many example programs as you want, lets say a billion just for fun < 1383874572 931817 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can run them, or maybe search through them by the effects they have, described broadly < 1383874585 571854 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can edit and run programs too < 1383874598 603613 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you figure out what was going on? < 1383874647 654013 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much been my experience with matlab < 1383874652 675130 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1383874663 802185 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383874683 713051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been fascinating how much good i can do for a program i don't understand a damned thing about < 1383874906 711530 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383875571 104002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha bike < 1383876024 773341 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383877339 435992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be odd to go to StackOverflow to ask a question then answer it immediately? < 1383877358 709179 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't find the answer to a question I had about IE, determined the answer experimentally < 1383877727 700225 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383878249 701873 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383878295 252 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaah oh god I'm going to be playing D&D < 1383878358 882752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't give in to satan < 1383878393 756271 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he won't. < 1383878401 61489 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helel on the other hand? < 1383878554 300335 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1383878954 996969 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Please do that < 1383878960 468682 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's totally kosher < 1383879066 58078 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: context? < 1383879071 365570 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ++ < 1383879079 914403 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:22:19] Sgeo: Would it be odd to go to StackOverflow to ask a question then answer it immediately? < 1383879080 104177 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[21:22:38] Sgeo: Couldn't find the answer to a question I had about IE, determined the answer experimentally < 1383879088 277656 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, its totally fine < 1383879091 262773 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :they even encourage it < 1383879274 160748 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm... going to be playing D&D with a pacifist character < 1383879317 196382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you beat the first mission of Deus Ex without killing anyone you get an achievement but also your fellow cybernetically enhanced super-soldiers will make fun of you for being a wuss < 1383879531 299854 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll also be woefully ill-equipped for the outsourced boss fights < 1383879576 823760 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tell them to use the Book of Exalted Deeds rules < 1383880198 443541 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, today I found out that vegans can eat bread < 1383880218 640618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: why wouldn't they? < 1383880237 898997 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, I was getting the recipe mixed up with cake < 1383880245 155653 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought bread had milk and eggs < 1383880264 814093 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdo < 1383880516 696476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think zzo38 plays his character with minimal violence, i am not sure if he's entirely pacifist or not. < 1383880867 813683 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa who is Oj742. < 1383881067 624929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bread has eggs i think < 1383881069 911397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some cake doesn't < 1383881090 528214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vegans can eat fungi even though they're closer to animals than to plants < 1383881120 847908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is good because bread is mostly made using fungi < 1383881188 723501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for salt rising bread, which is made using a bacterium from the same genus as tetanus and gas gangrene and botulism < 1383881204 287191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#terrifyingbreadfacts < 1383881288 754162 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds delicious < 1383881347 716203 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about bread using baking soda leavening < 1383881364 361599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about flatbread < 1383881612 585678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flatbread, fair enough < 1383881618 88841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you bake bread with only baking soda and no yeast? < 1383881625 758617 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was used as an additional component < 1383881626 926063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I dunn < 1383881627 740596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1383881629 40087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no baker < 1383881643 838065 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lightbeam is pretty cool < 1383881660 516472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1383881675 93204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :flatbread is not vegetarian. it is made from flatfish flour (nn:kveitemjøl, from nn:kveite, halibut) < 1383881804 143701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1383881844 572831 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.108 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383882743 709666 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383883676 776497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/aNPE < 1383883688 480813 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 51.9 < 1383883713 65058 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLIGHT IMPROVEMENT < 1383883882 403520 :nys!~nysnamovo@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1383884113 620138 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383884669 25211 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383885235 860706 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1383885291 475993 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there are now two questions that I really should get around to asking and answering on SO < 1383886131 759383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i'm on my SO, i'm not usually thinking about asking and answering questions < 1383886182 245636 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1383886224 497772 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :passwo < 1383886231 220292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1383886232 265353 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1383886252 857188 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklolplol < 1383886253 410692 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was trying to see if someone linked the password file i've been hearing so much about here) < 1383886264 914208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did a while ago < 1383886289 101566 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383886289 292074 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but ctrl+f often just pops up the find box but doesn't make it focused) < 1383886289 863422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the one that's like the world's greatest crossword puzzle according to xkcd? < 1383886296 676019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1383886365 107914 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you showed some top100 thing? < 1383886380 156676 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1383886461 6618 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"30. 28132 Ttgs5+ZAZM7ioxG6CatHBw== princess" < 1383886477 678142 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how < 1383886485 55927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what/ < 1383886500 159159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a question mark < 1383886515 854172 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand how random words get on these lists < 1383886548 219484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i just want the password recovery thing to call me a princess. since no one ELSE does < 1383886876 565866 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a friend who does some sort of computer security research and uses a short unary password almost everywhere, and happily tells people what it is < 1383886901 836145 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. 113884 7LqYzKVeq8I= 111111 < 1383887052 225094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is it research in how to be secure even if everyone knows your password? < 1383887074 954661 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383887234 381402 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he should've used 666666 < 1383887292 267267 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'ma get a lightbeam. dunno what to expect from it...i don't browse much < 1383887850 729571 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" papers on arxiv have links and cites highlighted in different colors a lot" <<< this will not surprise anyone, but anyway: this is because you send the tex and they compile it that way < 1383887971 204441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to there being an arxiv style that has that which you can use, say) < 1383888007 196063 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, i guess they could just add those to pdfs too < 1383888043 747307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you send them a pdf that's generated from tex source, they notice it and tell you to submit the tex instead < 1383888561 300086 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, of course < 1383888934 37104 :Yonkie_!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1383889011 466250 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1383890474 978756 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1383891246 418160 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@windyoona @0xabad1dea fun story: Lego bricks form a free trace monoid just like the one from process calculus! They model parallelism!" < 1383891252 308844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmm < 1383891329 913530 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the other way around? < 1383891391 334531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reads about trace monoids
< 1383891427 583281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean generally if it's a math thing versus something that actually happens i'm going to guess it's the former that's the "model" < 1383891671 718887 :v^!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:d5c:e33f:6:4535 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383891710 679951 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:40b8:e528:ce12:b455 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383891715 391245 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone say trace monoids < 1383891719 492633 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love monoids < 1383891887 574273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did < 1383891902 154181 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw both of the mentioned people are great and you should follow them if you do the twitter thing < 1383891925 700890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't do the twitter thing but i have a file of people i would follow if i did follow people < 1383891931 477408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'll add them to the file < 1383891958 915454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. effective < 1383891979 526471 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :my file now contains 43 people < 1383891997 429690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :way too many to open tabs for each one every day and look at what's new < 1383892023 5063 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can set up an rss client to fetch each of their feeds < 1383892045 634870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you should teach me about trace monoids < 1383892050 263143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this "natural homomorphism" business < 1383892198 223627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about them :( < 1383892247 236647 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1383892248 117659 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1383892535 882350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia does tho < 1383892707 311221 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what wikipedia means but maybe i'll read the whole article < 1383892858 781752 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:30a5:fd78:6521:da26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383892982 635716 :v^!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:d5c:e33f:6:4535 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383893467 189438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why is it called "trace" < 1383893669 296955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1383893677 86706 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1383893744 389537 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:30a5:fd78:6521:da26 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1383894062 385510 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383894112 712444 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383894130 544209 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383894134 532392 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383894151 838799 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383895443 831742 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383895491 103306 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383895926 171184 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.116 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383896002 238967 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1383896034 216906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH in my living room: "So I don't think RMS can be snorting mountains of cocaine" < 1383896089 810081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what means "koirammekokaan" < 1383896092 322397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog something < 1383896121 903671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dog (irthative case) < 1383896135 904070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a made up case < 1383896138 632743 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just made up that case < 1383896152 433623 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not! someone else did, long ago < 1383896200 588913 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1383896349 6299 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@1011591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383896495 375792 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@1011591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1383896562 297848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there are only two google hits for "irthative" and one is Phantom_Hoover on this channel. so yeah. < 1383896594 217102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is a seriously misspelled "affirmative". < 1383896623 60934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i assume that's it, anyhow. < 1383896667 943176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, the first person to use it is you. < 1383896685 553309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i conclude that you made it up, long ago. < 1383896687 888515 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1383896740 48595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait there's some development into it. < 1383896751 993625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:05:06 What's that word that means "is not bad anymore"? < 1383896752 144553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:05:51 irthen bad? < 1383896753 912720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:05:06 What's that word that means "is not bad anymore"? < 1383896754 63630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:05:51 irthen bad? < 1383896754 252844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i decline to answer < 1383896757 933228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1383896921 157912 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-mme https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ko https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-kaan hth < 1383896938 758659 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I was just about to decompose it. < 1383896991 98024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... translate plz < 1383897011 489287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to but gt couldn't make sense of the -kaan < 1383897015 182656 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo fizzie, i'mma let you finnish, but wiktionary is one of the best decomposers of all time < 1383897025 161299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :koiramme = our dog? < 1383897027 400668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is indeed dog | our | make-into-a-question | even. < 1383897041 917377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1383897063 794301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also kind of awkward-sounding. < 1383897095 995157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it could be used in a sentence. "Pystyisiköhän koirammekokaan siihen?" "Could even our dog do it?" < 1383897117 315017 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i should learn finnish :'( < 1383897134 337087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the sense of "even" meaning that it's very difficult, but maybe the dog could manage it. < 1383897145 440839 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And not the sense that anyone, even a trained monkey could do it.) < 1383897171 991262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "Could our dog even do it?"? < 1383897181 199174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. I should learn English. < 1383897196 600429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you planning to go to england < 1383897228 784760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though somehow "could our dog even do it" sounds to me like it's not necessarily a difficult thing, just that you're a bit sceptical about the dog. < 1383897229 496840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the thing in the topic means "Don't even our dogs fly?" < 1383897241 486065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's in the topic. < 1383897274 14562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Single dog. But something like that, yes. < 1383897277 424179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that's where kmc got the word from < 1383897302 317824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's kind of like you have lots of things and none of them are capable of flying, not even the dog. < 1383897303 235015 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ensin sinä, sitten minä < 1383897312 951850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh gt thinks koiramme is plural < 1383897314 249006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that even grammatical finnish < 1383897331 27129 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What's gt? < 1383897350 658732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Sadly, I think it's both. < 1383897388 702376 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I thought the pluralization was of us, not of the dog. < 1383897403 122756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: As in, there's no difference between the singular and plural in that case. But the verb would be inflected differently for plural. < 1383897448 341294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eek. < 1383897453 957589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: google translate < 1383897458 524137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1383897465 521267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kaikki koiramme" all our dogs, "paras koiramme" our best dog, yeah, there's no change for the plural when it's first-person-plural-possessive. < 1383897471 659679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well gt translates it as "our dogs" < 1383897477 407279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1383897492 969318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It would be "koirammekokaan eivät lennä?" if they had several dogs, none of which flew. < 1383897517 855693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it makes it singular if i remove that kokaan < 1383897530 850821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and keeps the rest of the sentence < 1383897553 986359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :dekokaanization is a popular activity among finnish grammaticians < 1383897574 558343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koirakokaan ei lennä?" seems to be translated more or less correctly. < 1383897574 972128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and here i thought finnish had a plural suffix. < 1383897617 398110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It has, it just seems to be hidden by the possessive suffix. "koira" dog, "koirat" dogs. < 1383897635 986175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly "koiria" for a different kind of plural. < 1383897654 95266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"täällä on paljon koiria" there are many dogs, "kaikki nämä koirat" all these dogs. < 1383897683 373951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, first one meaning there are many dogs *here*, not just in general. < 1383897730 218055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also dog seems to be the first example word in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_grammar#Plurals coincidentally. < 1383897763 673679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I forgot the second kind of plural, the "kaksi koiraa" two dogs kind of one. < 1383897774 631884 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :koirammekokaan ei nosta? < 1383897898 686972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of missing what it would lift up. < 1383897923 842530 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1383897928 651202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: doesn't koira have the third form, then? < 1383897929 398947 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also the wrong use of "even" < 1383898015 690774 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Which third form was that? < 1383898031 821580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inflected plural < 1383898043 240602 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google mostly finds things like http://verwelktesgedicht.tumblr.com/post/65125049172/english-a-dog-swedish-what-english-the < 1383898049 959078 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's pretty unfair. < 1383898061 731561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has a suspicious lack of koira examples < 1383898116 164664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait that was the koiria you mentioned < 1383898205 447471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why isn't it koiriamme or something >:) < 1383898241 508992 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It would be if the whole word would be in partitive case. < 1383898252 142540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1383898257 620259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "kukaan ei hoida koiraamme/koiriamme" nobody's taking care of our dog/dogs. < 1383898275 322632 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There the singular/plural distinction is maintained. < 1383898304 200038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean the nominative with a possessive suffix never has/usually doesn't have a distinct plural? < 1383898329 586583 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that might well be true. < 1383898340 610456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"myymme koiramme" we sell our dog/dogs -- right. < 1383898359 86220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you wanted to emphasize it's plural, I think you'd then just "myymme kaikki koiramme" we sell all our dogs. < 1383898362 935565 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo use a simple language like hebrew < 1383898374 311385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh you finns and using nominative for objects < 1383898507 369083 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew is good because first you encode all the meaning like verb conjugation in the vowels and then you don't write the vowels < 1383898538 354850 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The topic proves (once again) that Finnish is an esoteric language. < 1383898566 330699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :And English? < 1383898596 588108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need some Norwegian in the topic. < 1383898600 790147 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the languages that aren't somehow weird form a minority < 1383898624 348035 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to think Swedish is really straightforward until I heard the complaints of my Japanese teacher < 1383898637 50629 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :she claimed it's easier to learn Finnish than Swedish. < 1383898666 396116 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish and japanese are p. similar < 1383898686 68993 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Finnish has three cases for objects :) < 1383898709 63438 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that's true, I guess it's the very-high-level structural similarity which aided her. < 1383898733 56839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are you anyway < 1383898739 32558 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa. < 1383898739 235349 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome atehwa < 1383898743 988600 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1383898779 551258 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and it's complicated more by the fact that possessive suffices (like -mme) often replace the inflective suffix. < 1383898856 342036 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'm one of those guys who were active in esolangs community in the 90's. < 1383898933 790324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't speak English in the 1990s so I don't know much about what was going on in that community at the time. < 1383898948 597770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should've learned Finnish instead. < 1383899089 927065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa: You ran the sange.fi iteration of the mailing list, unless I misremember? < 1383899341 956480 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There ought to be a channel for talking about esolangs. < 1383899367 802184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd probably join. < 1383899434 758523 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's right. < 1383899944 227283 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.113.178.250 QUIT :Quit: http://corewar.co.uk < 1383900593 574709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1383902613 981576 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383903155 773739 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383903442 560741 :aloril_!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw3-54f97e-153.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1383903758 693215 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383904334 975335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :max(street-outside-the-office): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131108-otakaari.jpg < 1383904630 717687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383905127 782622 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1383906369 143744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383910053 858147 :jarpal!~jamesmart@c-50-162-101-66.hsd1.tx.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383910218 2707 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1383911021 845779 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383911248 628535 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1383911248 816136 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1383911991 323366 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383912017 813850 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383912104 424011 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131108-fit.png best fit? < 1383912117 91506 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383912281 900977 :jarpal!~jamesmart@c-50-162-101-66.hsd1.tx.comcast.net QUIT :Changing host < 1383912282 51944 :jarpal!~jamesmart@unaffiliated/totimkopf JOIN :#esoteric < 1383912299 844966 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383912556 396207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1383912792 660282 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383912987 97544 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383913701 907294 :asie!~textual@178235038113.elblag.vectranet.pl QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1383914215 815041 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.164 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383914361 870919 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1383914885 48840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383915218 459183 :jarpal!~jamesmart@unaffiliated/totimkopf NICK :cucuy < 1383915419 43497 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383915740 668010 :cucuy!~jamesmart@unaffiliated/totimkopf QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1383915797 357342 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383915801 756164 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383916763 317347 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Parphrasing from an interview of Miyazaki by the Finnish public broadcasting company:) "I worked part-time for The Moomins for a while. I thought it would be funny to introduce a tank in the series. It was even approved, but then I heard it would be completely contradictory to Tove Jansson's philosophy." < 1383916768 299427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's how the world lost the "Moomins in Tanks" concept. < 1383916795 713588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Source in Finnish: http://yle.fi/uutiset/hayao_miyazaki_jaahyvaishaastattelussa_halusin_muumeihin_tankin/6921093?origin=rss ) < 1383919674 797041 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383921473 110304 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: "I can hear myself... I think I'm a bit afraid." < 1383921641 873309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Updated view: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131108-otakaari2.jpg < 1383922005 323151 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1383922026 325806 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1383922066 372505 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what time is it < 1383922360 374569 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :08.16:47:46 quintopia | fizzie: what time is it < 1383922556 225182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is almost five pee-em. < 1383922644 892414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20131108-otakaari3.jpg one more for the read < 1383922658 398142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#2 was made from 500 images, this one from a thousand.) < 1383922663 789286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Road, not read. < 1383922668 699078 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm going to go a bus now.) < 1383922825 159527 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383923007 207425 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1383923713 497308 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383924080 693022 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1383924100 310451 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383924409 769242 :carado!~user4539@static.29.44.47.78.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383925081 381601 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.9.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383925206 130553 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1383925254 601421 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esolangs based on infinite state machines? < 1383925262 732892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who behave like finite state machines < 1383925269 511515 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but can create new states at runtime < 1383925272 952281 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and transitions at runtime < 1383925386 2855 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e a transtion is capable of creating a new state < 1383925394 421823 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add transitions to it < 1383925553 710133 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1383925627 994375 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have discovered the key to comedy. < 1383925628 894554 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/BSFyKv9.gif < 1383925662 571818 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure? < 1383925703 951650 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :120% < 1383926193 399013 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: IEUAAAAH! < 1383926195 492115 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383926386 345218 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a completely off-topic note < 1383926391 976280 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be an esolang about uml < 1383926393 737063 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or using uml < 1383926395 943877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or abusing uml < 1383926466 893062 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :who put a image of a diode (I assume?) to list of ideas? < 1383926734 489679 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :write an os in brainfuck < 1383926738 226578 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems odly trivial to do < 1383926745 145377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddly < 1383926793 440287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you don't count that I write it in assembly and THEN compile it to brainfuck < 1383926798 826323 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then compile it to native code < 1383926903 350100 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2013/7/22/future-proof-your-data-model < 1383926928 74688 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pascal is case-insensitive, how odd. < 1383926938 803382 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why am I reading Pascal. < 1383926986 149545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1383926994 410747 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not alowed in clean-code relational modelling stuff < 1383927021 92315 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e recursion < 1383927025 931492 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although < 1383927051 976956 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think the esolang you describe already exists, and is called UML.) < 1383927098 367259 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1383927112 679942 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I currently have lectures about writing software in an UML-Like matter < 1383927117 18752 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for embedded systems < 1383927122 657602 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :modell driven development :) < 1383927123 118322 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@1011591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383927124 378994 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oder model < 1383927148 879075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frankly, the *only* benefit I see now is < 1383927159 492244 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you automatically have all the UML diagrams :) < 1383927171 821073 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't write code and then draw some UML diagrams :) < 1383927180 802148 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand < 1383927194 845533 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to insert code into the code generated by the codegen < 1383927204 6636 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the code gen can't do *everything* for you < 1383927220 166988 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it can't generate code on how to actually control the hardware < 1383927250 942669 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have to write that code by hand using those horrible generated struct and types by the codegen < 1383927258 639809 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oddly named < 1383927261 597441 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whatever < 1383927276 782237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you gotta know how the codegen generates the names :) < 1383927297 308672 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that and since it's an eclipse plugin < 1383927311 438578 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've spent 2 hours configuring that damn plugin so it can target that arduino < 1383927397 144276 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383927399 681002 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://marketplace.eclipse.org/sites/default/files/as_trade_DomainEditor.png < 1383927403 630827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- it's pretty awesome < 1383927427 362201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as you can see, it's MUCH MORE readable than code . < 1383927559 20735 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like the kind of graph that graphviz-dot makes. < 1383927590 570939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any pictures with CIRO Models < 1383927608 538206 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a modelling standard invented by someone working at my school < 1383927616 500994 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, you don't find anything about it on google < 1383927624 624011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assume it's not really used in the real world < 1383927652 313095 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1383927682 174382 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for CIRO < 1383927685 765076 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some results for DESC < 1383927755 517475 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :two results < 1383927757 894109 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :both german :) < 1383927818 350245 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383927845 113887 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.s-i.ch/fileadmin/daten/sigmo/DESC_Methode_v11.pdf < 1383927849 221406 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's the paper < 1383928110 12104 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://static.squarespace.com/static/518f5d62e4b075248d6a3f90/t/526b7aeae4b0bc40704fad14/1382775549381/good-framework.jpg?format=1500w < 1383928115 525651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to like that website < 1383928263 957492 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383928406 101765 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.9.255 QUIT : < 1383928536 48490 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383928536 199605 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@1011591080.ipsat.francetelecom.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383928573 202414 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference between UML and not-UML is << >> anyway < 1383929109 15585 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.168.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383929401 171703 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.155.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383929516 14034 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1383929517 930623 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383929743 126379 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1383929770 350625 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: speaking of UML diagram generators. Just what I need. I wrote one once but turned out not to be so useful < 1383929819 598934 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :determining the relationships between classes was not that easy it appears < 1383929864 190651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never spoke of such thing :) < 1383929869 38717 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1383929874 301318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :UML diagram generators are the way to go < 1383929883 892352 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :write code, then generate UML class diagram < 1383929886 709031 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383929887 783624 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're a whuss < 1383929894 853716 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you may do it the other way around ;) < 1383929905 486984 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually do it the other way around < 1383929912 973890 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: There's a working one for eclipse btw < 1383929918 245860 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use eclipse < 1383929922 452205 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for Java at least < 1383929936 317028 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.160.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383929942 192784 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't use java either :( < 1383929972 321364 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you must be a C++ guy < 1383930008 529119 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i confess < 1383930387 399232 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Representational State Transfer (REST) is an architectural style that abstracts the architectural elements within a distributed hypermedia system.[ < 1383930390 888418 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... now I get it . < 1383930435 125406 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing missing is within an architectural distributed hypermedia system < 1383930502 663414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383930722 533891 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.168.54 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1383930935 210900 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.168.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383931051 727629 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383931160 696166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1383931170 772331 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 days and I might know what my bachelor thesis is going to be about < 1383931185 385967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just pray it's not some erm, crm, erp crap < 1383931333 902910 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you allowed to choose the subject of your thesis? < 1383931372 423098 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell no < 1383931380 507381 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1383931383 295385 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1383931391 403812 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you can choose your own thesis < 1383931396 890527 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone accepts it :) < 1383931427 85959 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually companies can request students to do some stuff < 1383931446 395214 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :they pay 2000$ for the school to anounce their stuff as a bachelor thesis < 1383931455 298476 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you choose one from that pool < 1383931459 466989 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh why doesn't vim come with python support on debian < 1383931464 156630 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1383931488 518593 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what field is your thesis going to be? < 1383931498 271504 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can make a request for yourself to do something < 1383931510 420264 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have a good idea that gets accepted < 1383931533 643121 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that hell no was not directed at your question ;) < 1383931547 566429 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnotherTest: That I don't know. < 1383931558 428199 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :something with computers for sure ;) < 1383931599 406910 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't tell you in which particular field of computer stuff < 1383931608 861087 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... this is not a university bachelor. < 1383931676 691261 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm not sure if it even counts as a bachelor in the US < 1383931683 311449 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't live in the US < 1383931693 398725 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland? < 1383931701 561578 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is pretty present here < 1383931707 888024 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Finnland? < 1383931715 695498 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383931719 268176 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnland. < 1383931738 972731 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.168.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finn the Human < 1383931780 827653 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's one weird looking language < 1383931797 629287 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you inflect verbs according to grammatical case? < 1383931848 108440 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :taloksi < 1383931917 347934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no word so small we wouldn't inflect it. < 1383931931 366604 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :41 < 1383932052 689506 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :puhunet. < 1383932092 677226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You might speak", approximately. < 1383932127 676647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second-person singular present potential. < 1383932325 749611 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:edf1:c508:f8c9:440 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383932360 150818 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1383932394 165155 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383932420 819712 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383932489 276033 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1383932504 465098 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1383932571 915993 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383932709 907855 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383932861 953885 :augur_!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383932900 512750 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.168.54 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1383933189 731558 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1383933915 135479 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383934058 443781 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383934330 14991 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello the people < 1383934379 440289 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereahello < 1383934686 826724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We the Hello. < 1383934806 751576 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1383935071 117736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1383935313 12739 :Taneb!~Nathan@nas16-130.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1383935973 520864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here have a solution for file transfer between a linux box and a galaxy s4 that actually works < 1383935979 64607 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking for actual tested solutions and not guesses < 1383936004 160050 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :morse code < 1383936018 73909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analog modem via microphone/loudspeaker. < 1383936038 202605 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semaphores < 1383936039 742378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the implication that we've both actually tested these. < 1383936041 585916 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smoke signals < 1383936046 233116 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a galaxy s3 but i'd just use dropbox < 1383936052 500249 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or email it to myself, just to piss everyone off < 1383936060 874263 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tattooing the data on a courrier's head < 1383936089 336635 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "galaxy s4" is awfully specific < 1383936092 40852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i hate the future < 1383936102 511788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes well Samsung seems to use a different MTP stack from other android devices, or something < 1383936105 589850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works, aight < 1383936189 164628 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well with my moto x i can just click the little picture of a blue tooth and it works pretty good < 1383936194 829104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1383936205 388870 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with my galaxy nexus i can plug it in in the usb port and that works too < 1383936205 546852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what software do you use on the linux side < 1383936209 947934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not tried anything else < 1383936223 616680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: does your galaxy nexus do USB mass storage aka "the terrible thing that actually fucking works" < 1383936230 115381 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1383936233 855375 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember for sure < 1383936258 837488 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what bluetooth software i use just the default usb thing on ubuntu < 1383936282 191878 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather goobuntu < 1383936298 850778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/usb/bluetooth/ < 1383936305 196054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My Nexus 7 does not do USB mass storage, only MTP; and I've used... oh no, I forgot what I used! < 1383936324 75702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just click the clicky buttons until something happens < 1383936345 538250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Again < 1383936371 121409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I've used that MTP thing, like, once. After that it's just been sftp over wifi.) < 1383936394 959789 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be mixing things up i haven't done it v. much < 1383936418 786391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it was that FUSE mtpfs thing.) < 1383936494 842039 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1383936522 593800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: which end is the sftp server? < 1383936609 367552 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383936911 874809 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383936965 634250 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383936983 532949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to run a ssh server on my phone because i'll probably get owned < 1383936993 358650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i want to run rsync commands < 1383936998 182177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could install rsync on the phone somehow < 1383937013 938306 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just sign up for fucking dropbox < 1383937020 854437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking fuckbox < 1383937060 701721 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: The Linux end is the SFTP server, in my case. < 1383937115 432682 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I use ES File Manager, but there are plenty of solutions for syncing files on Android < 1383937123 639187 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of which work over SSH < 1383937134 497193 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was something like ES File Manager that I've used as the client on the Android side; that, and VX ConnectBot's "download file" feature, but it's not terribly user-interfacey. < 1383937163 213456 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESFM has a wonderful interface these days.. it used to be difficult. < 1383937175 973887 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm certain there are lighter apps for syncing over SSH < 1383937198 864289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could download the file over a local HTTP server on your phone? < 1383937322 436133 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a great solution, unless he wants to do so automatically < 1383937469 780011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or unless I want to sync a big tree of files, which I do < 1383937477 779468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and delete ones that don't exist on the server, too < 1383937523 688483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383937542 699051 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use a service like Drive? I'm guessing no, since you don't want Dropbox < 1383937606 867117 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already know about Dropbox and Google Drive and HTTP and all of these things... < 1383937618 719642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need you all to brainstorm shitty solutions for me < 1383937625 809043 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you run an Android device or an Apple device? < 1383937651 742061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: you didn't even read my original question apparently < 1383937678 853420 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383937680 194101 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't log on until your comment "i don't want to run a ssh server on my phone because i'll probably get owned" < 1383937701 371847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna stop talking because I don't want to be a jerk to people who are honestly trying to help but fundamentally misunderstand the sort of inquiry I am making < 1383937782 261442 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :srry < 1383937832 385264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I have one of those phone things. It can make and receive calls. < 1383937880 436555 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine just makes noises and receives odd looks < 1383938227 687611 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383938619 495743 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383938990 356759 :prooftechnique!~Also@132.198.155.230 QUIT : < 1383939385 597342 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1383941183 903887 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383941463 685222 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383941676 608086 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1383941797 682336 :Taneb!~Nathan@nas16-130.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1383942687 330836 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383943552 327380 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383943904 710236 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383943990 714791 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1383944145 348852 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383944186 109197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383944186 477141 :augur!~augur@pool-71-178-130-189.washdc.east.verizon.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383944391 753268 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383944403 311821 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Quit: I found 1 in /dev/zero < 1383945963 323912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1383945989 300602 :JM002!~JM@186.14.75.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383945999 466953 :JM002!~JM@186.14.75.195 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1383946049 997245 :JM002!~JM@186.14.75.195 QUIT :Client Quit < 1383946543 192690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1383947724 555903 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In which we put a v8 API on top of spidermonkey without futzing with a separate build system. Prep work for spidernode." < 1383947728 99673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I run into scary things on the internet < 1383947920 191328 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948007 485902 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383948011 157835 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1383948082 448067 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948338 311280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh python has http://docs.python.org/2/library/string.html#template-strings in addition to % and .format() < 1383948356 49954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this metaprogram is possibly using all of them :< < 1383948373 335506 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948391 143317 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc metaprogram he didn't like? < 1383948402 135550 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too easy < 1383948403 407622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're nearing that point yes < 1383948435 567338 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like bugs < 1383948438 956445 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1nsOKBgmOs < 1383948824 474688 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948870 710857 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-53-123.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948910 277602 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-53-123.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1383948910 428566 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1383948923 904802 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1383948924 925846 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383949638 381709 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1383950034 769171 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.153 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1383950135 330835 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1383950307 687768 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383950403 731436 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383950441 284708 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.153 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1383950446 792227 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1383950466 182286 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I spent hours today getting people to help me get my laptop working < 1383950470 542378 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now my desktop's playing up < 1383950595 364347 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I think having someone on your gamejam team who is doing a PhD in video game artificial intelligence is pretty handy < 1383950652 952679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what kind of PhD < 1383950678 803012 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :little does taneb know that it's a phd in deliberately shitty AI < 1383950711 481258 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's on Monte Carlo search trees with hidden information, I think < 1383950784 386608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1383950896 358652 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1383951127 655180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"But USB devices were used to ferry malware cross a far greater air-gap: Russian astronauts had carried a virus on removable media to the International Space Station infecting machines there, Kaspersky said." < 1383951156 728140 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1383951163 455083 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like lack of air gap (by which i mean: are you fucking serious) < 1383951708 183877 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1383951995 430365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, there's obviously some kind of duality at play < 1383952051 767693 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yeah probably < 1383952054 92152 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is the fortress < 1383952065 267473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're making me feel guilty < 1383952066 338824 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1383952128 120611 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that reminds me < 1383952154 610070 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it remind you of something else i should feel guilty about < 1383952160 832256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so: stop remembering < 1383952185 488343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bill gates has his own URL shortener < 1383952186 655909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b-gat.es < 1383952190 256860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is so money < 1383952218 236655 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no, it's something I should feel guilty about < 1383952233 589627 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, looks like it's just an alias for bitly (or whatever the proper term is) < 1383952237 748049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, continue remembering < 1383952263 753523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1383952299 348441 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :having novelty urls isn't all that money (were you not around for libc.soquest) < 1383952342 695922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't < 1383952356 103988 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1383952372 234698 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383952415 233663 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.soquest? < 1383952432 86266 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quest for libc.so < 1383952442 890420 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1383952448 700863 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't two-letter tlds reserved < 1383952458 381347 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like, ocular sudan. < 1383952481 431047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gregor wanted to buy it, it failed because someone was more money than him (gregor was very money at the time, though)) < 1383952521 118906 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't a tld like ten thousand fucks < 1383952545 326131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Not the .so TLD, just the libc.so domain. < 1383952575 338126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was when .so (Somalia) was having some sort of a thing.) < 1383952586 131191 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's somalia. durr < 1383952589 794696 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Involving possibly auctions or whatnot. < 1383952610 15628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess it's possible Gregor wanted to buy Somalia too? The domains probably come with it.) < 1383952621 716275 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who lives in somaliland, i don't think it has its own tld though < 1383952630 311083 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just use .dj like punks i imagine < 1383952658 925353 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose he could've paid a band of mercenaries to take over the part of the country that hands out domains, at least < 1383952680 563138 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, why does he live in somaliland < 1383952698 989193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was gregor so money < 1383952701 557548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not now? < 1383952710 94892 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because his dad's a fucking idiot (according to him) < 1383952737 21174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't a tld like ten thousand fucks <-- depends how much you make from one fuck I guess < 1383952758 789935 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is gregor less money now? i was just referring to his general attitude at the time < 1383952785 61105 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember the amounts but there was some heated discussion over why you would spend that much on a novelty domain < 1383952802 675400 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a good suggestion for a simple-to-parse but relatively interesting proglang < 1383952812 593176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not even any website at libc.so which makes the whole thing quite smurfy. (It's registered by a Marcel Meyer from levelsystems.de.) < 1383952813 917255 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL < 1383952819 190661 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL lol < 1383952820 848954 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome (haha no) < 1383952825 695877 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount was $1k or something < 1383952843 564004 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually... i guess eodermdrome's got pretty basic syntax < 1383952901 865217 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_, Real Fast Nora's Hair Salon 3: Shear Disaster Download < 1383952906 553629 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy to parse and easy to read! < 1383953082 341346 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_: scheme < 1383953085 974641 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: In sum total I had $1,500 for it. < 1383953099 847336 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1383953100 964440 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.36 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1383953116 97028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. if you do what everyone does and pick a restricted subset of scheme that proves whatever point you want to make < 1383953457 708850 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1383953867 74722 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tan:| < 1383953871 372040 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whered he go < 1383953872 922136 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bastard < 1383953883 250655 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: scheme is easy to parse, but not rich enough < 1383953926 108967 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it basically has two syntactic constructs: , and (*) < 1383954004 219561 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you asked for simple to parse. < 1383954017 250881 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not simple-to-parse-but-not-THAT-simple. < 1383954076 413559 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"but relatively interesting proglang" < 1383954076 953508 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1383954088 688563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"interesting" includes semantics. < 1383954097 215804 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poppycock! < 1383954369 211927 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Poppycock "This article is a stub, which means that it is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. Please help us by adding some more information. Poppycock is a simple to parse, but not simple to parse but not THAT simple, but relatively interesting proglang." < 1383954950 313288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur_, still think eodermdrome fits that brief < 1383955001 837105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I didn't understand you meant "simple-to-parse but interesting syntax" < 1383955007 854786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because syntax is boring ;P < 1383955015 526708 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not really but kinda)