< 1384041763 248228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⟩ < 1384041765 583368 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+27E9 MATHEMATICAL RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET] < 1384041780 20444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: MAYBE. < 1384041854 253659 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's an annotation in Unicode saying that that's the correct one to use for a ket < 1384041981 121256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384042114 80843 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> forever "" < 1384042115 302649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1384042124 761819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523\unfoog: aha < 1384042170 444457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> execWriter . forever $ tell "hi! " < 1384042171 837679 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi... < 1384042200 428924 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes hi < 1384042201 686195 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ hi \ < 1384042282 796243 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ``ci`c`. `.!`.i`.hi < 1384042282 983851 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi! hi!... < 1384042332 793072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fst $ (runRWS . forever $ do x <- get; tell [x]; put (x+1)) undefined 0 < 1384042334 132045 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(a0, b0)' < 1384042334 282992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `(a1,... < 1384042343 584138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runRWS < 1384042344 580886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :RWS r w s a -> r -> s -> (a, s, w) < 1384042351 449999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1384042389 521218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _3 $ (runRWS . forever $ do x <- get; tell [x]; put (x+1)) undefined 0 < 1384042391 716903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,... < 1384042525 854296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view _3 $ (runRWS . forever $ do x <- get; tell [x]; modify . (+) =<< ask) 2 1 < 1384042527 667510 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,37,39,41,43,45,47,49,51,5... < 1384042613 522128 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seq 1 2 10000 < 1384042614 900160 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :seq: invalid floating point argument: 1 2 10000 \ Try `seq --help' for more information. < 1384042618 933549 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1384042621 547612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0$0&) < 1384042621 857649 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run seq 1 2 10000 < 1384042622 822047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : The operator `Control.Lens.Combinators.&' [infixl 1] of a section < 1384042622 973135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : must... < 1384042623 349682 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 \ 3 \ 5 \ 7 \ 9 \ 11 \ 13 \ 15 \ 17 \ 19 \ 21 \ 23 \ 25 \ 27 \ 29 \ 31 \ 33 \ 35 \ 37 \ 39 \ 41 \ 43 \ 45 \ 47 \ 49 \ 51 \ 53 \ 55 \ 57 \ 59 \ 61 \ 63 \ 65 \ 67 \ 69 \ 71 \ 73 \ 75 \ 77 \ 79 \ 81 \ 83 \ 85 \ 87 \ 89 \ 91 \ 93 \ 95 \ 97 \ 99 \ 101 \ 103 \ 105 \ 107 \ 109 \ 111 \ 113 \ 115 \ 117 \ 119 \ 121 \ 123 \ 125 \ 127 \ 129 \ 131 \ 133 \ 135 < 1384042657 743696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1,3..] < 1384042659 20034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,37,39,41,43,45,47,49,51,5... < 1384042705 584062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1384042725 805822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i wasn't trying to golf, anyway) < 1384042727 116211 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384042739 607429 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor was I < 1384042929 786651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION briefly wonders how many of the "quantum" esolangs actually are related to quantum computing rather than the "take several paths at a time (and discard the ones whose result you don't like)" misunderstanding of it
< 1384042957 257158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely _think_ i may have seen one. < 1384042982 721333 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384042985 949456 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nondeterministic esolangs are still interesting < 1384042992 668704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a few have Hadamard transformers I think < 1384042997 496448 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just shouldn't call them quantum < 1384043011 29144 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I think you are correct < 1384043014 716173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right (to both of you) < 1384043023 498128 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384043077 39859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's however a somewhat interesting complexity class that you get by combining both those ideas, "quantum computing with superselection" < 1384043121 750264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not known to be equal to either of the subsets, but fits inside PSPACE. it's in the graph at the top of aaronson's blog. < 1384043227 687925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PostBQP it was < 1384043285 844516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was postselection, not superselection < 1384043395 457245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :superselection also means something, not exactly sure what it's for < 1384043491 700115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it's equal to PP, a complexity class defined without any quantum < 1384043524 296185 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how seemingly half of aaronson's job is telling peole quantum computers suck < 1384043577 304103 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384043659 846647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384043987 349901 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my Physics A-level project, I wrote something about how quantum computers work < 1384044000 805613 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and implemented a simulator capable of handing Shor's algorithm on 8-bit integers < 1384044009 6971 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculating a probability distribution for the result < 1384044016 603631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1384044019 578005 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had like a 30-40% chance of getting the correct answer, IIRC < 1384044031 657218 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantum computer use in practice is, you run the experiment, then you check the result < 1384044042 863603 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and try again if it was wrong < 1384044358 571758 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does anyone know anything about how virtual machines are implemented? < 1384044365 370136 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in something like the JVM < 1384044399 407512 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, they're like any language interpreter, except you have a billion dollars so you can make them fast as shit < 1384044464 847268 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1384044489 862639 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I read about various virtual machine implementations < 1384044500 411601 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like Google's V8 Javascript engine < 1384044514 401442 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say they go straight from AST to Machine code < 1384044527 315652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a (just in time) compiler. < 1384044528 411691 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why it's so fast, how do they execute machine code? < 1384044531 503770 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1384044544 315527 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they execute machine code? well, they have these things called computer processors, < 1384044556 392968 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean programatically < 1384044581 86349 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read they basically get all the instructions in byte format or whatever then create a function pointer to the bytes in memory < 1384044591 476119 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they can just call it like a function < 1384044601 477635 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1384044676 621726 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor did something like that for the IOCCC < 1384044696 676864 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, obviously that's not conforming C or whatever, but you still get the idea. < 1384044705 839458 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1384044707 222496 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384044744 597577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's von neumann architecture for ya. < 1384044780 732327 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1384044994 614564 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i tell a joke by accident... < 1384045021 696816 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's just I don't know as much as you so I said lol as a response < 1384045035 454705 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i began reading a wikipedia article < 1384045052 958799 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never really understood that. i thought 'lol' meant laughing < 1384045084 949169 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because before I looked it up I thought it was a joke since I didn't know what It meant < 1384045094 552280 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was kinda stated like one < 1384045138 117149 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's pretty much just how i write < 1384045169 284418 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's fine. < 1384045188 710473 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am The Living Joke < 1384045197 155168 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol xD < 1384045335 595015 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any popular languages that interpret the ast < 1384045336 981511 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1384045381 63060 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unlambda ```s``s.1`k``s`k`s`k.1`s`k.,i``s``s`ks``s`kk``s``si`ki`ki``s``s`ks``s`k`si``s`kk``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s`k`s`kk``s``s`ksk`k`s`k.1``s``s`ksk`k`s`k.0`ki < 1384045381 222126 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1,10,11,100,101,110,111,1000,1001,1010,1011,1100,1101,1110,1111,10000,10001... < 1384045401 969560 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot how icky that programming language (Unlambda) really is :) < 1384045407 19103 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: what do you mean < 1384045463 589147 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just curious < 1384045475 448782 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like as I mentioned earlier with V8 < 1384045487 586840 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. Ruby. < 1384045499 706580 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384045500 553327 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It translates the ast to machine code, I'm assuming other languages do that but are any popular that interpret ast? < 1384045504 930000 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic, ruby < 1384045513 178795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how most interpreters work... < 1384045521 101595 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a "parse" step and then an "evaluation" step. < 1384045525 923766 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never written in it before. I don't even know what it's mainly used for < 1384045531 526363 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1384045536 322926 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384045551 326435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing them both together would be kind of silly ("we call it Perl") < 1384045557 336821 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bytecode interpreters used to be popular. < 1384045565 209780 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just what everything i've read has made me believe that's not enough or suitable < 1384045570 227814 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1384045574 508138 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Still are. < 1384045582 376944 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse -> bytecode -> interpret that, rather than an AST < 1384045593 602044 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytecode interpreters are profoundly faster than AST interpreters. < 1384045596 642964 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that... hapens all the time, int-e < 1384045618 743973 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a language i should write a bytecode thing for but effffffort < 1384045618 906053 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ruby's the only mainstream language that really *used* a direct AST interpreter. < 1384045636 698675 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I didn't know that, thanks < 1384045658 987311 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would a bytecode interpreter be faster since the AST has to be translated to bytecode which is then interpreted? < 1384045659 868213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you might want to interpret some kinds of macros while parsing AST < 1384045677 359460 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: the idea is that the ast->bytecode step takes some effort but you only have to do it onc. < 1384045680 560435 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: better locality, smaller memory footprint --> better for caches < 1384045680 796569 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1384045689 422534 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1384045703 558289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too yeah. < 1384045901 305082 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also quite a bit quicker to branch on. < 1384045923 850634 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you do somewhat sophisticated tricks to help the CPU's branch predictor along. < 1384045949 340591 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this shit reminds me, how much can i rely on matlab's jit? also if you want me to stop reminding you matlab exists that's ok < 1384045982 828700 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytecode's also nicer in terms of future development because you can generally add a JIT later. < 1384045996 532697 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384046012 313880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Especially if it is harvard bytecode, that is. < 1384046045 106585 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been wondering if i should bother rearranging things to index into a matrix instead of branching but it seems like such a pain < 1384046052 179821 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Which you almost always do for interpreter bytecodes. :) < 1384046093 345116 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i wonder if even just using switch/case instead of elseifelseifelseif would speed it up. maybe the jit does jump tables < 1384046142 846291 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i could just give up and start rewriting the thing in scipy. < 1384046270 508061 :tswett_q!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :tswett < 1384046353 403311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: calling machine code in memory can be basically as you heard, except that nowadays you also need to change the security settings of the memory. by default you cannot write to and execute the same part of memory (this is to make attacks harder by not making it too easy for attackers to execute anything they want.) < 1384046418 728078 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oic < 1384046439 832972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also helps against some bugs, i guess) < 1384046456 393699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some terrifying bugs < 1384046466 763786 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will just raw instructions execute or will there be some sort of other step before it's executed? < 1384046468 398892 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A few aren't; a few partially are. In Z-machine, it is possible to execute instructions from RAM, although usually it isn't; there is the high ROM area which can contain only instructions and packed text strings. JUMP with a variable operand might still make compiling it a bit more difficult, though. < 1384046514 640810 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: well you set up the argument stack and all, is that what you mean < 1384046524 640417 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are arguments. < 1384046529 57942 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In addition, there is the restriction of where routines and text strings can start, so you don't have to check all of them; also, routines always begin with a byte having the high four bits cleared, so if any of them are set you can skip that one.) < 1384046548 428830 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yeah that makes sense < 1384046588 246576 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Hence "almost". :) < 1384046613 597767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: well it's as raw as you get to put into memory. although nowadays computer processors transform it to even rawer "microcode" internally. < 1384046631 332832 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384046633 113566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rawr < 1384046633 779564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in the process of writing a program to convert OASYS codes (which is harvard) into Z-machine codes; currently no optimizations are done. < 1384046634 554293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: but it's the same format as most programs use. < 1384046679 950502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(OASYS also lacks variable jumps; this also makes it easier to compile.) < 1384046699 894847 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've completely lost track of what you're talking about < 1384046737 899058 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this should be new to you, since "load a program into memory and run it" is the same thing that happens when you run a program from your desktop :) < 1384046764 113638 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was talking to zzo38 < 1384046775 820802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote zzo38 < 1384046777 712874 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :27) I am not on the moon. \ 116) Some people are reasonable, some people who are not reasonable insist on changing things so therefore progress depends on not reasonablepeple \ 150) catseye: Please wake up. Not recorded for this timezone. The big spider is not your dream \ 174) zzo38: A better definition would probab < 1384046803 284977 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 174 < 1384046804 968387 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :174) zzo38: A better definition would probably fix Avogadro's number. It's broken? < 1384046823 69901 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1384047013 907297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i woulda thought free vacuum permitivitty or something would be more 'broken'. < 1384047145 13326 :ais523\unfoog!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1384047424 774710 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384048180 80477 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are any of you asian? < 1384048180 459322 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fix" in this sense meaning "set it to a fixed number, rather than an experimental quantity" < 1384048188 721884 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but I speak Japanese. < 1384048196 940402 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1384048207 262200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did that come from < 1384048233 602119 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you knew me irl I have an ongoing inside joke about asians < 1384048243 308726 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it racist < 1384048246 906080 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always joke about asians but I have nothing against them, they're awesome < 1384048253 446571 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bearnerd.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Asians-meme.jpg < 1384048266 363080 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not racist < 1384048398 940337 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure < 1384048616 433227 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0100% positive I'm not racist < 1384048621 16632 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100%* < 1384048628 92792 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I talk to asians irl on a regular basis < 1384048633 87020 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no problem < 1384048644 268903 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like is this the "asians are all super smart math nerds" sort of crud < 1384048657 208742 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really no < 1384048671 859380 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kinda like that picture i linked. Just--asians. < 1384048684 147938 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1384048685 612293 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway lets move on, < 1384048694 905643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :baffling < 1384048722 26064 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol that message is awesome whatever you would call that. < 1384049075 631261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: Do you mean the quit message? < 1384049158 69596 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1384049195 405993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: is your criterion for whether or not you are racist actually "I talk to asian people" < 1384049215 983718 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude < 1384049220 523842 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not racist < 1384049221 788433 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1384049226 695679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a general rule, if you have to explain why you're not racist you are already on thin ice. < 1384049247 722283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it gets thinner the stronger you argue. < 1384049248 806755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I speak a language, I am racist too, although I try not to be too racist. < 1384049249 146394 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin ice doesn't mean i'm racist < 1384049263 303963 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definition of racism: the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. < 1384049294 159939 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe none of that < 1384049308 649481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was starting to write a response but then realized i was trolling. < 1384049316 803160 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha lol < 1384049355 498181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any Washizu mahjong players? < 1384049368 574158 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope I don't even know what that is < 1384049371 721993 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384049405 410411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know any mahjong game? < 1384049437 187310 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*opens google* < 1384049496 516600 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I've seen something like that before < 1384049506 388666 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only ever played mahjong solitaire. i kinda want to play actual mahjong once < 1384049614 47687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Japanese mahjong? There are many different kinds; Japanese mahjong is popular in many places. I play Japanese mahjong. < 1384049628 861853 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, japanese mahjong < 1384049639 243911 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Do you know anything about the rules? < 1384049704 816192 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. all i know is it's similar to card games like bridge < 1384049735 135273 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like tichu < 1384049737 76906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some similarities to some card games, such as bridge and rummy < 1384049748 930839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would you like to have a tichu night < 1384049769 254543 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384049769 478355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and me and two of your friends < 1384049774 714988 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1384049781 944603 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1384049873 924215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :inf < 1384049895 161149 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I do not know what that means. < 1384049912 985425 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a good game you'd like it. < 1384050076 832922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't explain anything. < 1384050195 516989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : *shudder* that was Lewis Carrol <-- um pretty sure it was dr seuss? < 1384050218 379194 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's old but that confused me to < 1384050228 488844 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a line from Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass < 1384050233 877585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly carroll wrote it too < 1384050246 290143 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:f0a3:3f9c:40e4:402b QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384050253 194223 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know the line that was spoken, what was it again? < 1384050291 445782 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/44212-i-meant-what-i-said-and-i-said-what-i < 1384050298 836900 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said what I meant and meant what I said? < 1384050321 996679 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant what I said and I said what I meant* < 1384050324 769509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i meant what i said and i said waht i meant < 1384050339 41731 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384050342 958957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think you may be confusing it with another quote < 1384050357 381280 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was from a Dr. Suess story I'm pretty sure < 1384050363 147816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hion < 1384050369 784819 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose that could have beena coincidence or he borrowed it < 1384050375 211939 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends what you're referring to < 1384050379 16385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'If I'd meant that, I'd have said it,' said Humpty Dumpty. < 1384050390 883909 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but that's not what was said < 1384050391 774359 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it helps i was actually quoting a porno < 1384050397 896942 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hmm, possibly < 1384050405 701646 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolo < 1384050409 944831 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it definitely wasn't Dr. Suess. < 1384050427 70041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well we have to adjust for the fact it was "waht" < 1384050435 169129 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was in a Dr. Suess story, specifically the onewith the elephant < 1384050438 454482 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But what did Humpty Dumpty mean by that? < 1384050449 359150 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :horton or whatever it's name was < 1384050482 432791 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :published in 1940 < 1384050537 36812 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horton_Hatches_the_Egg#Analysis < 1384050544 146347 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :near the bottom of the paragraph < 1384050553 509793 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why we're talking about this lol < 1384050592 749647 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :second paragraph < 1384050603 494445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this is a channel for incorrigible nitpickers < 1384050616 56856 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1384050697 994769 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean——neither more nor less." < 1384050698 214207 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was what I was thinking of < 1384050698 214386 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry about this < 1384050734 104933 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright it's fine < 1384050748 64914 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same message completely different words. < 1384050777 106206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE SAME MESSAGE < 1384050782 370225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cough* < 1384050791 270204 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a very good porno < 1384050811 500747 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, it's probably precisely as good as every porno I have ever seen < 1384050837 99463 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :close to the same--lol < 1384050858 254174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is cleverly assuming Taneb has seen zero.
< 1384050869 67283 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, correct < 1384050870 176269 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Then you should say what you mean," the March Hare went on. < 1384050870 360237 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I do," Alice hastily replied; "at least—at least I mean what I say—that's the same thing, you know." < 1384050892 25578 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another near-miss Carroll quote < 1384050910 566952 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not what was said, i think I won here < 1384050950 364116 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this si the stupidest conversation ever < 1384050956 564049 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is* lets end it < 1384050969 883965 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had stupider < 1384050989 482522 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the stupidest conversations ever* < 1384051009 796966 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bison poop < 1384051014 756871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hands APott the Useless Argument Champion Cup, in genuine pewter.
< 1384051022 870969 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384051060 246188 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what OS's you guys running? < 1384051071 527077 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux deagol 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux < 1384051077 465570 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :be < 1384051097 680808 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running Ubuntu Linux 13.04 < 1384051108 8086 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 bit < 1384051113 354519 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux Mint, but not for the long term probably < 1384051124 562511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep annoying everyone else by staying on Windows despite not liking it much (8.1 at the moment) < 1384051135 554974 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won't comment on that. < 1384051156 768389 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a guy in my twitter feed who can't figure out how to turn off his windows machine after the 8.1 upgrae < 1384051160 824894 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux Mint with what GUI? Last time I used it with Cinnamon < 1384051169 371504 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol xD < 1384051182 414103 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, Cinnamon < 1384051195 70102 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cinnamon was pretty nice, needs some work though < 1384051197 49465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Does the SHUTDOWN command still work? < 1384051211 418671 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't ask < 1384051261 393362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The menus and stuff are all different, but most of the same keyboard shortcuts continue to work (even to access things that aren't available on any menu anymore), and cmd.exe is still available, at least in Windows 8.0 < 1384051300 902470 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384051336 275920 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't just, i don't like ask near-strangers "have you tried command prompt" < 1384051344 659310 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384051362 141956 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 8.0 on a separate partition just in case of an emergency < 1384051383 762109 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because sometimes you can fuck up linux quite easily < 1384051413 10230 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what... < 1384051420 740128 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: FreeBSD < 1384051451 771260 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what you run? < 1384051452 451173 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :using openbox+lxpanel but looking to change < 1384051454 612812 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: yes < 1384051459 200801 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never tried it < 1384051465 839137 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any good, long term use? < 1384051466 604863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux, Windows, a lot of systems are complicated and can be mixed up easily; DOS is a simple system that boots very fast and runs very fast too. < 1384051472 17264 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: absolutely < 1384051479 931281 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1384051484 957803 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, wasn't DOS considered quite bloated when it was released? < 1384051493 128145 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: if you are going to try it, use pcbsd < 1384051495 907285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, a workable solution to the problem of computers. dos. < 1384051509 390174 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION peddles Bike
< 1384051523 951618 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: This is true but sometimes some simple hardware/driver mix ups can be an issue, on windows things are a bit more stable < 1384051526 405550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedals? < 1384051526 642850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I meant what I said what I meant; an elephant's faithful one hundred percent" --oh, childhood, thanks for reminding me :) < 1384051535 206385 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you trying to sell me........................... < 1384051538 875604 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ^^ :D < 1384051544 697044 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes, but that is just because many people said that; it does contain some features it doesn't need but it is still pretty good compared to others < 1384051544 878942 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nah, trying to ride on the Bike < 1384051553 429506 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(locked up my computer egojsouting a long battle. would have replied sooner.) < 1384051560 314759 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bikes back tire is flat < 1384051574 322599 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike's* < 1384051588 518411 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you're riding me you would use the pedals, not the peddles < 1384051591 672236 :Taneb!~Nathan@5.151.64.135 QUIT :Quit: it is time for taneb to sleep < 1384051603 542621 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean to be rude here, you're the operator, but this is pretty basic < 1384051611 968935 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lol. < 1384051646 114020 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I found these old Beatles vinyls on E-Bay and I think I'm going to bid on them < 1384051658 981910 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The seller placed the starting price quite low < 1384051684 937150 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a record player though? (If not, it isn't that complicated anyways) < 1384051700 143278 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well beatles vinyl isn't rare < 1384051736 737606 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like Pokemon card (with the old-style rules)? < 1384051760 164693 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wut < 1384051768 164999 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not but am going to invest in one < 1384051796 708853 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in starting a collection of them, since me grandfather gave me a good amount of them I thought why not? < 1384051868 799083 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/search?q=exec+sudo+%24_GET&type=Code < 1384051948 500704 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about it? < 1384051963 688122 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's beautiful < 1384051971 929100 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of bad practice < 1384051974 542101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "exec sudo $_GET" is a PHP code, it is a terrible code < 1384051975 52801 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but okay < 1384051995 277615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I haven't actually followed the link so I don't know how many results and that stuff) < 1384052014 959114 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo shell_exec("sudo ./smbkill ".$_GET['kill']." 2>&1");, what could possibl go wrong < 1384052021 573490 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of shit < 1384052030 176 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: A lot of stuff < 1384052030 827007 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the worst php practice I've ever seen < 1384052113 330450 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with Bike < 1384052116 584706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amazing < 1384052130 882527 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That so many people are writing horrible code? < 1384052132 865960 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384052151 31950 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessarily horrible but extremely insecure < 1384052151 224187 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if this is quite as funny as people putting private pgp keys in github dotfiles, but it's up there < 1384052163 772545 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah lol < 1384052194 938344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of PHP programmers write terrible programs though < 1384052206 575996 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The language promotes bad practices < 1384052229 656475 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, PHP isn't a very good programming language anyways, due to a number of problems (even ignoring bad practices) < 1384052235 34067 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know first hand because it was the first language I learned and when I began learning others I realised how bad the stuff I was doing was < 1384052244 466147 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a comma in there lol < 1384052272 860143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: What is a very good programming language? < 1384052301 982032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't really know but many are OK; they can be good for different purposes. < 1384052326 930538 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP being good for web scripting < 1384052340 797399 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does it's job fine it just has it's issues < 1384052364 890420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: Yes there are many issues with it < 1384052383 711580 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: PUZZLANG. clearly. < 1384052404 585523 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know there are issues but I can't even name any off the top of my head < 1384052412 143120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what programming language I learned first; I think it was BASIC. I still program in BASIC sometimes, especially for writing computer games, since it is OK for many kinds of games. < 1384052421 20912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: you don't need to. there is a whole website devoted to listing them. < 1384052475 363657 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will look for it. The only ones I can think of would be speed, and security < 1384052509 277259 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: There are several others too, such as syntax problems that it won't work if you put [] after a function call, and so on < 1384052547 696134 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have written some webpages in PHP, such as the FurryScript form (the backend is also in PHP, even though it is a standalone program that doesn't require a webpage), and a form to run TeX programs (which is far simpler than the one Wikipedia uses, and probably far more secure too) < 1384052551 609478 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that work in C? (I've never tried it) < 1384052554 596907 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I have once used SQL to write a webpage < 1384052562 442428 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, array indexing the result of a function call? < 1384052565 322956 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'course it works < 1384052567 507058 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that < 1384052574 320 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I've never had to do it < 1384052581 818957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: I think so, but even if it doesn't you can use *(f()+x) and stuff like that < 1384052585 287200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only doesn't in php because the parser is terrible < 1384052591 678650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In PHP it doesn't do that though < 1384052596 474400 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the parser generated? < 1384052600 564852 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a language where using certain denormal floats crashes everything < 1384052609 437978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes it is really terrible < 1384052631 697309 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't the php front end lex/yacc generated? < 1384052650 506099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how is it that exec("sudo blah") even works? what sort of permissions would be required? i know i'm set up that every sudo command needs a password entry. < 1384052661 813484 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't want to think about it < 1384052749 36278 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So has anyone tried D? I use it all the time and there's a fantastic package manager for it < 1384052761 659001 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: I haven't, but I have read things about it < 1384052775 692136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who uses D but his code is so shitty i was put off < 1384052821 489299 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ It's such a small community it's hard to get it going because there aren't many libraries as of now < 1384052901 941629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, you didn't want me anyway. i read the snobol manual for fun < 1384052938 181221 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol xD < 1384052995 367031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine (which is gopher-based) is written in C, although the main menu is in PHP, and the local mode menu is in Haskell (this Haskell program calls the C program and parses the gopher menus it outputs). (The PHP though is only the menu; the server config runs the C program directly when needed) < 1384053054 967961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OkCupid/HelloQuizzy is HTTP and it is written in C++ though (I do not think the source-codes are available though; it is coincidental that Internet Quiz Engine operates in similar ways) < 1384053117 106130 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: That sounds complicated. < 1384053137 832713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated, but can survive nuclear fallout < 1384053150 582716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It does, although that is because you haven't seen it. It is actually not so complicated. < 1384053152 412878 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CGI or whatever you want to call it in C/C++ is quite simple < 1384053205 315738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: Yes, I know you can. (The webpage I wrote in SQL once actually used a CGI program I wrote in C which calls SQLite and gives it parameters from the query and outputs the headers and that stuff) < 1384053263 950191 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1384053272 406275 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why don't we do it in the road? < 1384053286 952371 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which road < 1384053300 155136 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pennsylvania Avenue < 1384053314 380129 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the District of Columbia < 1384053338 668086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: iirc CGI also has broken security, it puts fields from the url in environment variables named by them. < 1384053352 83204 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't think CGI does that. < 1384053360 110313 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does indeed < 1384053361 769386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had to neuter a feature of the ghc haskell compiler because of it < 1384053376 535698 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how it's insecure though < 1384053380 740919 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does for the headers but not for the URL < 1384053388 939711 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, it has register_globals? < 1384053391 664007 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :best feature ever. < 1384053397 317505 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET data is stored in an environment variable < 1384053415 104354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I never use it, although sometimes when I write such a PHP program I ensure it is working OK even if register_globals is enabled < 1384053419 981325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, /an/ huh < 1384053425 217291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an irssi script which looks in your logs to tell you the other nicks used by a person connecting from a particular hostmask < 1384053451 930498 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just grep -r hostmask irclogs < 1384053485 125062 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. but with a channel moving quick it's hard to copy the hostmask from the screen < 1384053485 717112 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384053494 600101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather have it be a command < 1384053505 952685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like /aliases < 1384053510 714729 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: The hostmask is sent with every message, you just need to tell your client to display it if you want to copy it < 1384053515 559691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: well it was a security flaw when you combined it with haskell's runtime environment variables for debugging... < 1384053525 850222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i don't want it displayed with every message silly < 1384053533 339406 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'd still be hard to copy < 1384053551 77223 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just /whois them and copy it from that window. < 1384053556 280992 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: isn't that a haskell issue then? < 1384053601 419831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gopher server is much more simple; it just puts the selector string in an environment variable called SELECTOR when it is calling an external program (the prefix tree is stored in the configuration file, which tells it which files are executable, which are text, which are binary, etc) < 1384053602 779076 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384053640 735984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it isn't a separate window. it appears in the same window and moves with the rest of the chat. (i set it up that way.) < 1384053651 246545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually not quite sure if it was environment or command line flags, when i think about it. < 1384053657 488062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ur clearly mad < 1384053678 973230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also i don't want to have to remember the grep command :P < 1384053699 233328 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384053711 27477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Then put it in a shell script. < 1384053712 734275 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my sensors indicate that you might be a lazy ass nerd < 1384053719 469619 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384053720 257739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: partly, but it's CGI which is violating ordinary assumptions of where unsafe input gets communicated to programs. < 1384053762 643315 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it goes in an environment variable then the program that reads the variable has the job of making sure it's safe, not the web server < 1384053792 864892 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like it's being injected into random environment variables, it has a specific one < 1384053839 294057 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lazy programmers are best programmers. I like to keep a not-invented-here attitude. < 1384053866 817293 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't lazy programmers just surf the web for snippets? < 1384053929 466026 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: use /whois and then hit Ctrl-S or whatever. < 1384053967 631052 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: what is it that undoes that? ctrl-q was it? < 1384053970 957675 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1384053971 847638 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1384053986 856400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: um the problem (and it may have been flags, not environment variables) was that someone might fake a url that set an option that the program does _not_ expect to be set from a url. < 1384053991 370819 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384053992 892512 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not just a lazy programmer, I'm a lazy IRC user. Whenever I want to say something on IRC, I search some IRC logs for someone who's already sent a message saying it. < 1384054005 209099 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, i'm an idiot. what's ctrl s do < 1384054008 151693 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said that one? < 1384054014 657485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Are you lazy at typing too? < 1384054026 277910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who operate a computer ought to learn fast typing. < 1384054027 816857 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384054062 833491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: do you know of any scripts that let you grep logs directly into a channel, without having to specify the channel's logfile? basically /lastlog but for full logs? < 1384054065 977843 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's something that should always be checked by a CGI program < 1384054078 225055 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what do you mean by "into a channel"? < 1384054095 379344 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, no. < 1384054103 153246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: appended to the channel window the way /lastlog does < 1384054169 694886 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :So like /exec, if /exec knew how to tell grep what channel you're in. < 1384054189 790952 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: save your microsoft word document hth < 1384054194 296164 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be NICK :nooodl < 1384054196 577444 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure maybe < 1384054215 516266 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I was going to respond "yes" to your question asking if I was lazy at typing, but I couldn't find an IRC message that was just the word "yes". < 1384054242 264888 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing that you could find one saying that yes couldn't be found, but couldn't find "yes" < 1384054255 87670 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess others have had this problem < 1384054256 71257 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah that's a good one < 1384054263 23257 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me help once and for all < 1384054265 477282 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384054270 794655 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :helter skelter < 1384054302 290638 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooool < 1384054313 49759 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I I don't even know < 1384054318 182951 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1384054333 406041 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the song that happens to be playing in my playlist right now < 1384054340 305024 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not... < 1384054350 658895 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fvJEpdq8a8 < 1384054382 126103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is it okay to agglomerate bits and pieces of different lines into the message you want? < 1384054394 7348 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooo < 1384054419 160600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you always come up with something so relevant just piecing together different things that others have said? < 1384054419 376232 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's just that luketus is the only one i can think to do with < 1384054446 626282 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only two are valid? I don't even know < 1384054540 798631 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1384054548 662872 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo we should use four-valued booleans, because that's the best kind of logic < 1384054553 319834 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I have a posture problem, I'm 6 feet 2 inches and my monitors are quite low < 1384054565 394787 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I find myself slouching, how do i fix this? < 1384054573 20989 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lectricity < 1384054579 204550 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :staple your monitors to the wall < 1384054587 366999 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's logical < 1384054592 494587 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or staple yourself to the wall < 1384054595 751589 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the obvious answer is "don't slouch". < 1384054599 548521 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even more logical < 1384054601 535174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :APott: the problem was that this affected runtime options for the haskell program before the program itself got to run any checks. the name of files for putting debugging output was the main problem iirc. so they had to turn that off by default, which annoys everyone who _isn't_ making a CGI program. < 1384054628 660274 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: well it's obviously a sub concious thing < 1384054636 403307 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure this is just dumb all around oejran < 1384054639 722035 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. So somehow you have to make it a habit. < 1384054651 999341 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a game of it < 1384054664 798579 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conscious* It would be easier if the monitors were my height < 1384054677 341183 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would be pointless to slouch making me not slouch < 1384054692 841466 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another obvious answer is "raise your monitors". < 1384054696 76593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you got any fat books < 1384054699 259689 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :put em under your monitors < 1384054704 339097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemistry textbooks work well for this < 1384054704 640700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time you catch yourself slouching you give yourself five cents to spend on something and sit up straight. but no cheating and slouching on purpose just to get the five cents. < 1384054721 586560 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol ok < 1384054747 85604 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time you catch yourself slouching, fine yourself five cents for slouching, sit up straight, and reward yourself five cents for sitting up straight. < 1384054751 931493 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a ton of programming language books that I could use I suppose and some harry potter books. I'm only a sophmore in high school so I don't have chemistry books yet lol < 1384054765 96776 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate ¿Funciona esto? < 1384054766 628080 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :This google api no longer exists. < 1384054770 254642 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: that's fantastic < 1384054772 353498 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, to be young and innocent, and not completely antipathetic to chemistry. < 1384054779 689720 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :antipathic? i forget < 1384054788 106674 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antipastic. < 1384054790 713507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i like this plan. the punitive tax pays for the incentive in its entirety! < 1384054818 263323 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, has anyone laughed at the Finnish in the topic yet? < 1384054840 766195 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because i don't finnish < 1384054843 131285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1384054860 303475 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, someone find a Finn! < 1384054867 886493 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... Linus Torvalds! Wait, does he speak Finnish. < 1384054871 271931 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing it says "Why did Lena have to get old?" < 1384054878 947803 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1384054900 255089 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :any asians in here atm? < 1384054926 588361 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffle Truffle < 1384054929 767018 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you like... not do that maybe < 1384054938 525929 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah sorry < 1384054956 341770 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't want to be an annoyance on my first day < 1384055130 718938 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farewekk < 1384055135 347204 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :farewell* < 1384055136 364169 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by < 1384055144 718076 :APott!6c5c4cfc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.92.76.252 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1384055488 854379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This program is actually not so complicated; it is a literate C program of less than 400 lines. < 1384055774 815028 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed firefox when it froze < 1384055786 547759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and somehow now it has completely changed < 1384055799 992941 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it's a different version that doesn't support vimperator any more? < 1384055804 993168 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :could it have upgraded itself? < 1384055826 359992 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the latest firefox? < 1384055944 613599 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wharrgarbl < 1384056578 958339 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what. the. fuck. it's like i had a different firefox installed and i was auto-reverted and the one i was using just vanished. < 1384056584 451557 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1384056589 439417 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :something weird happened < 1384056605 581866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is the latest Firefox, and I don't know about all those other things either, sorry < 1384057451 399685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :reinstalling worked < 1384057458 196529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1384057468 261850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe when it crashed it changed something < 1384057476 223935 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for some reason i can't open lightbeam. the menu item it is supposed to create...isn't there. < 1384060137 319891 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384061045 259289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Shogi just got a shout-out in Worm < 1384061090 422908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What is that? I can play tsumeshogi but I don't know if that has anything to do with it? < 1384061102 507655 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worm is a story I'm reading < 1384061110 730304 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :About what? < 1384061138 251392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Superheros and supervillains. Mostly villains. < 1384061153 868998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://parahumans.wordpress.com/about/ < 1384061156 257522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what is it about shogi? < 1384061229 84135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bunch of characters are talking about a dangerous group of enemies. They were describing them in chess terms. Someone suggested looking at it as a different game, and Shogi came up, because apparently of a rule about using captured pieces as your own < 1384061233 840029 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1384061353 876996 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, shogi dose have the rule about using captured pieces as your own (you keep them on your side off-board and can drop them onto a vacant space as a turn later on); shogi also has a rule that most pieces can promote by flipping over, and promotion is optional < 1384061585 230969 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384061633 895326 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when I am playing Dungeons&Dragons game I do sometimes think of some of the situations resembling strange chess variants < 1384061672 343232 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Especially non-existent ones) < 1384061878 892458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly you can even compare whatever you are doing with Pokemon card or Magic: the Gathering (for me, probably Pokemon since I am very positionally player) < 1384062805 405445 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384063038 575830 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1384063040 67915 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dgrxfgnjozdcegky JOIN :#esoteric < 1384063248 416679 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1384063345 927938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would they ever have any situation where they may compare to mahjong instead? < 1384063530 614451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Pokemon tournaments, is it permitted to tamper with the trainer ID number of a basic pokemon that, when traded, is forced to evolve under all circumstances? < 1384063713 224677 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1384064484 272278 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have determined that the following words are likely to be prepositions: of, in, to, with, by, for, from, at, on, into, during, In, within. < 1384064512 459577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clap clap < 1384064516 524793 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how did you know that those lines I said came from the logs for a day on which mahjong was discussed? < 1384064534 590088 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, let me give you guys even more words that are likely to be prepositions! < 1384064564 951732 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :both, between, through, including, Within, after, before, During, include, Although, increases, if, repair, throughout, along < 1384064586 529351 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. < 1384064614 347503 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that repair now on, I'm going to replace all repair my prepositions repair the word "repair". It's such an excellent preposition. < 1384064619 985818 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I did not know; I just guessed. < 1384064627 329032 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is nothing but a lucky guess. < 1384064709 642383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the likelihood that i am a preposition < 1384064730 556008 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you're not in any of the clusters, so I can't say. < 1384065371 552151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What did you use to determine that those words are likely to be prepositions? < 1384065383 768772 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cluster analysis in R. < 1384065397 832946 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buffalo buffalo repair buffalo repair buffalo repair repair buffalo. < 1384065427 532261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read about R before. What is cluster analysis, though? < 1384065478 493576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe I will try to look in Wikipedia and/or R documentation) < 1384065506 985106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put data points (words in this case) in n-dimensional space based on some parameters, and try to find clusters of points. < 1384065615 136922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK I found the examples of 2-dimensional clusters in Wikipedia. < 1384065934 411905 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta sleep. Good night, everyone. < 1384066216 356500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make cluster analysis in SQL? < 1384068500 871234 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384069633 656829 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They say axiom of choice is equivalent to "the product of a collection of non-empty sets is non-empty". If the collection is allowed to be infinite, then I don't think it should necessarily apply. (But there are ZFC and ZF not C, so I suppose both ways can be correct but not together??) < 1384069691 351611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you think of this? < 1384069721 342110 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like "AC but only for finite families" is weaker than ZFC but still independent of ZF? < 1384069827 621545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, neverind, you can prove it from ZF < 1384069884 572320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what that Wikipedia article says. < 1384069898 286613 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't think what should necessarily apply? < 1384069954 935470 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There exists a model of ZF¬C which has an infinite set of real numbers without a countably infinite subset." some wacky stuff here < 1384069973 521574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There exists a model of ZF¬C in which there is a vector space with two bases of different cardinalities." wha < 1384069983 847916 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: That a product of an infinite collection of non-empty sets would necessarily be non-empty. < 1384070016 380574 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: models are weird though. < 1384070025 936281 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough < 1384070051 689775 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even imagine having two bases of different cardinalities though < 1384070108 227075 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think "The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma" kind of sums it up for me < 1384070119 980362 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "be" even mean < 1384070127 349301 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, that's because you're imagining reasonable models :P < 1384070149 764317 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :The axiom of choice is obviously true, and so is the axiom of determinacy. < 1384070162 383659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It isn't obviously true to me. < 1384070173 77445 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I explained. < 1384070174 477706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'm good at imagination < 1384070223 83234 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can imagine an infinite number of pools of fish, and walking along from one pool to the next, taing a fish from each and putting it in a new pool < 1384070229 540056 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's even better when you take away the law of excluded middle < 1384070244 661661 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so imo just do that already < 1384070246 964966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would smell nasty, but that's just a fact of life, when your life involves infinite numbers of fishes < 1384070252 471404 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's even better < 1384070276 984443 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a fact of life when your life involves a finite but large number of fishes, or finite but small fishes if they're close enough to you < 1384070279 981399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rotting < 1384070313 682320 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you see that one talk, The Five Stages of Accepting Constructive Mathematics < 1384070334 243077 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1384070337 446595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i find your argument fishy < 1384070362 888478 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my imagination is not argumentative! < 1384070370 830735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1384070375 893606 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1384070378 248718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In ZFC, axiom of choice is obviously true. But the axiom of choice doesn't seems like the best model to me, and therefore ZFC also isn't.) < 1384070379 332179 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you find me fishy < 1384070407 471562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: seagulls usually are < 1384070420 828652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa jesus lebesgue was way later than i thought < 1384070422 847403 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a seagull < 1384070443 530348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh deep < 1384070787 606204 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too late in the night to read tarski talk about what truth is, i feel < 1384070819 411638 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The axiom of dependent choice, when restricted to pointed sets, looks like OK to me, though. < 1384070848 33178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you based point < 1384070892 360676 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: imo read smullyan talk about tarski talking about what truth is?? < 1384070910 794855 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds harder < 1384070944 836822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but smullyan is the best < 1384070960 84906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but hard < 1384071062 965291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could listen to swan lake instead < 1384071081 341985 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too busy listening to post-whatever core revival < 1384071119 350839 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have drums in it < 1384071165 46908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't hear any. < 1384071186 260316 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it has one of those shaky things. < 1384071186 730474 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're deaf from all the drums < 1384071192 567601 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what shaky things < 1384071203 462535 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maracas, bt i don't think they're exactly maracas. < 1384071286 981722 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this other track, definitely has light snares or something, though. < 1384071356 295692 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and uh, other drums too. < 1384071382 97261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :drums :'( < 1384071782 5571 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like dums < 1384071794 670165 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me seven minutes to think of that < 1384071827 765352 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: instead of insulting things you should do the opposite of that < 1384071891 844738 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like yums < 1384071925 397153 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx < 1384072109 796836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :music for yummies < 1384072800 873687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Listen to a Famicom music. < 1384072813 448744 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good decision < 1384072932 793487 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't have any Famicom musics. < 1384073000 786229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Look in Famicompo Mini; there are a lot, some with expansion audio and some without. < 1384073174 932868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I don't know Japanese. < 1384073787 149855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Some of the files are in Englihs. < 1384073809 632677 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Englihs/English/ < 1384074021 689160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1384074153 481283 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384075192 166873 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384075275 782206 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384075564 268731 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384077815 3341 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384078096 319946 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384078161 832837 :Taneb!~Nathan@nas17-142.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1384078489 423358 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384078530 106901 :Taneb!~Nathan@nas17-142.york.ac.uk QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384080112 451985 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384081512 791352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: SciPy hasn't really impressed me in terms of speed; as for MATLAB JIT, "I'unno", but it's clearly better than what it used to be. (Avoiding all explicit loops used to be even more of a priority, due to interpretation overhead.) < 1384081540 565309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (Also I'm reminded of the existence of MATLAB pretty much every workday.) < 1384081574 574327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am wondering how easy it would be to do some of these things in SQL. I have done other statistical stuff in SQL successfully. < 1384081679 425917 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One example, maybe you make survey, store all responses in SQL tables, and then want to calculate the standard deviation of answers to the second question for the cases when the first question answer is "yes", and stuff like that. < 1384081736 435274 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQL seems ideal for this things; SQL also seems ideal for a number of other things too. < 1384081790 116203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A useful thing to have would be an aggregate which plots a graph of your data! < 1384081818 495285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like SELECT XYPLOT(...) FROM ... WHERE ... < 1384082256 131912 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384082504 853674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :greetings from the future < 1384082514 892891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8PM Sunday) < 1384082525 636197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I proved that x86 is Turing complete ish with no registers < 1384082551 242836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :writeup forthcoming < 1384082629 644862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Death under ptrace" is a good name for a manpage section or a band < 1384082996 23829 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-ish? < 1384083016 512866 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with which definition of no registers? < 1384083115 832857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the opposite of "move only"? < 1384083128 191937 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would gladly pay you tuesday for a register todat < 1384083128 878687 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1384083132 355801 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd read "-ish" as the usual restriction on addressable main memory, but I'm also curious about which registers are left. Can't do much without rip and rsp ... < 1384083168 79367 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1384083173 349348 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what about various control registers (eg for paging)? < 1384083174 315036 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have an infinite memory < 1384083182 816419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's not x86 :) < 1384083186 130186 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you access every part of it with x86? < 1384083199 665601 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the addresses are limited, no? < 1384083203 327765 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you can build a tape head for it < 1384083229 402628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is certainly big enough for a UTM, given the right peripheral(s) :) < 1384083271 305049 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The right peripheral is "an infinite device" < 1384083274 648594 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can I buy it < 1384083415 303180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't written out the exact rules yet but basically no instruction is allowed to depend on the contents of "normal" user registers i.e. rax rcx rdx rbx rsi rdi rsp (yes) rbp r8-r15, x87 and xmm/ymm/zmm/qmm/bumm/dumm/glumm < 1384083426 375950 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the condition codes in eflags < 1384083538 258299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're allowed to depend on the control registers, debug registers, segment selectors, etc. to provide a sane flat memory model, but shouldn't write to them to do anything tricky < 1384083599 672728 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly you can't from userspace) < 1384083635 999138 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes you are allowed to have an instruction pointer ;P < 1384083770 519394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 lets you do a memory-indirect jump, i.e. load the word from a specified fixed address into %rip < 1384083773 614240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this turns out to be vital < 1384083791 749684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I think I'm disallowing %rip-relative memory addressing too, although I haven't thought of a situation where it would be useful < 1384083797 35897 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. how about an rip-relative bitset ;-) < 1384083826 593601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the main challenge in this subset is moving data around < 1384083851 764256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since to my knowledge there's no instruction which does a memory-memory move without any register involvement < 1384083972 69519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i have a solution for compiling brainfuck and I will write it up sometime when I'm not incredibly jet-lagged < 1384084054 895626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does use self-modifying code (but of course the restrictions must hold for every instruction actually executed, and not just the ones present statically) < 1384084152 622049 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which I hope to demonstrate using a ptrace thingy that sets all those registers to zero after every instruction) < 1384084217 994418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiling from subleq or something like that might have been easier < 1384084363 867660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, bts was the instruction I had in mind. < 1384084610 331918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ptrace(2) says "PTRACE_SYSEMU, PTRACE_SYSEMU_SINGLESTEP (since Linux 2.6.14)… These requests are currently supported only on x89." < 1384084616 261833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x89: it's three better < 1384084650 175276 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be the 00089 < 1384084651 394400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it says x86 here < 1384084699 898022 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mkerrisk/man-pages/commits/d2ea1bd4bd128bc2a57f9ae8e677689a4d24a200 < 1384084711 314199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather https://github.com/mkerrisk/man-pages/commit/d2ea1bd4bd128bc2a57f9ae8e677689a4d24a200 < 1384085903 441016 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384087136 229425 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384087926 127761 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1384089050 295668 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384089306 877174 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384091114 720605 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384091220 353343 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1384091994 875064 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384094099 848592 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha what the fuck < 1384094110 386325 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384094133 837287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latin word for clitoris, so obscene that it appears exactly once in surviving literary texts, also means... gridiron: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/landica < 1384094323 827666 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384094962 821721 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384095207 248927 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384095311 128642 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384095408 515547 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384095614 756126 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384095728 280953 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1384096617 443595 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384096661 154807 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384096801 82564 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384096820 451503 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384097663 679161 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384097979 700962 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: aight. just, wondering how much microotimization is hould bother trying, that's all < 1384098183 769560 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 NICK :tertu < 1384098691 525167 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384098731 877113 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384098847 82830 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :supdup < 1384098868 190380 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384098926 724288 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384098942 98273 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384099109 374350 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384099237 678004 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1384099529 679530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the words command work again < 1384099545 689173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: halp < 1384099672 449804 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -h < 1384099677 773280 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1384099691 466812 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how < 1384099950 132924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You're kind of messy with all that whitespace. < 1384099971 180473 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo `words -h` < 1384099973 675928 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] options: -l, --list list valid datasets -d, --debug debugging output -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining multiple Markov models; this has the effect of making larger datasets more influential -o, --target-offset change the target length offset used in the word generati < 1384100078 844336 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1384100137 5356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384100274 134376 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384101486 149957 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384101878 335897 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384104204 780424 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:d549:5a0b:84e4:9118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384104611 693731 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1384106901 589287 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384107430 720494 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384107645 442759 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384107845 311842 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384108216 724643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1384110224 351200 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384111680 589788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm learning how to say "clitoris" in all the languages of the world < 1384111683 44891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be useful < 1384111946 894429 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :pimpsanappula < 1384111994 942805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well _some_ say klitoris) < 1384112407 140536 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1384112500 826504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google can't handle that but suggests "pimppi nappula" and translates it as "pussy button" so... okay < 1384112508 812925 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384112567 184356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you intend to speak all languages of the world? That would be difficult. < 1384112661 915284 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaaaaah how do you do reduction formulae? < 1384112777 772865 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What reduction formulae? < 1384112815 60990 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For integration < 1384112821 879364 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only speaking all the clitori of the world, zzo < 1384112938 588829 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :häpynypykkä < 1384112950 463121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw do these have to be _existing_ words? < 1384113123 813254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google doesn't know that one either!! < 1384113942 594390 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384113979 755052 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1384114190 491749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't say I've ever heard anyone use the words oklopol mentions. < 1384114210 560335 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But they're certainly plausible.) < 1384114219 547389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the second one work < 1384114276 837408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw my initial comment was a response to P_H not just something I decided to do immediately on waking up) < 1384114545 205261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try "häpy nyppylä" in Google Translate. < 1384114548 927715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of related to that. < 1384114621 689833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes me think of the mons pubis and not the clitoris < 1384114998 295222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: requested < 1384115160 881589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be "häpykumpu". The connotations of the word "nyppylä"/"nypykkä" indicate a small thing. < 1384115173 53161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1384115251 867375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1384115292 246245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, "häpykieli" is (alongside the already-mentioned "klitoris") the official word. For some reason. < 1384115389 24302 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kieli" means... tongue? < 1384115495 732233 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384115787 177503 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is it bad all I can see in these words are "happy nipple" and "happy camper" and "happy clearly"?) < 1384115873 390616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that's bad because it implies that regular nipples aren't happy < 1384115915 841313 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My nipples are quite sad right now < 1384115920 697897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1384116409 110826 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there such a sound synthesis as "filter modulation"? < 1384116785 467760 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i determine the what size a file will be printed at? < 1384116800 708028 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: What file? < 1384116813 464747 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this printer take 1200 input dpi, so what is the pixel dimensions of a 2"x2" jpg? < 1384116886 282155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would seem like 2400 but I don't know if the file has its own DPI < 1384116937 761279 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would a jpg have its own dpi < 1384116950 659128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if JPEG supports that or not. < 1384116967 166493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, ImageMagick does support that. < 1384117253 349858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had some success opening things in Gimp and explicitly setting the DPI before printing < 1384117296 36889 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I know that ImageMagick can do that too, although I have never actually tried it. < 1384117430 529992 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: requested < 1384117668 446648 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1384118067 573596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is lambdabot on a new server? < 1384118120 271974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes. mine. < 1384118227 449915 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384118393 786538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're running lambdabot instead of elliott now? Or just your server? < 1384118417 603050 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm running it. Elliot more or less talked me into taking over. :) < 1384118423 431274 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats < 1384118437 693273 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1384118462 578099 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. I didn't see it mentioned in #-ops. < 1384118507 560577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably because I'm blissfully unaware of that channel :) < 1384118518 937695 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, has lambdabot changed hands twice this year now? < 1384118834 226407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384120225 793654 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can america claim to be a world leader in anything when we don't even properly clean our butts after pooping < 1384120489 357258 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384120891 654145 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.178.250 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384120922 714760 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384121336 460243 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.lulz.net/src/lwCF9Lu.jpg < 1384121419 345588 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing didn't deserve that. < 1384121462 962249 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Make it a Bill Gates quote and I'll probably laugh. ;-) ) < 1384121524 153920 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1384121537 443547 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.lulz.net/src/einstien4.jpg < 1384121540 78574 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about that guy < 1384121544 124368 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it a picture of Bill Gates but keep the text and I'd be quite amused (for the first one) < 1384121587 702591 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.142 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384122471 99741 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384122644 132226 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384122736 320216 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384122979 294166 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384123190 807505 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384123576 400808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 929 < 1384123578 205129 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 929: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly < 1384123594 264263 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be shocked if someone else got there first, given that I checked a few hours ago and it wasn't up < 1384123633 870506 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thais < 1384123820 120412 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Thanks! < 1384124129 251858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently the Digi-RGB specification has no "standard resolution"; perhaps I should mention 320x240 at 30 fps or something like that as a mode which all Digi-RGB displays are expected to support, so that a video card can use it when there is no other modes available. < 1384124633 697821 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384124763 928740 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384124928 16167 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1384125096 212603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To comment on a discussion that finished hours ago, base JPEG standard does not support encoding the "physical size" (or resolution) of an image, but (widely supported) extensions (JFIF, IPTC, ...) do. < 1384125114 440858 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OK. < 1384125138 139377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1384125306 866608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DoubleFuck could even be extended to 32 tapes by using the low 3-bits of a byte for the command and high 5-bits for the tape number. < 1384125344 315638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite the name for a language < 1384125371 525976 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess i’ll link this here, too. “Testing whether you can safely sh-quote any byte string (consisting of no null bytes) by substituting ' with '\'' and adding ' on either side. Works in bash, dash, mksh, posh, zsh. Fails in csh, ksh, lksh, pdksh.” https://gist.github.com/ion1/7405148 < 1384125389 306200 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i like that < 1384125408 54716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/BVHH -- that's from a couple of random example .jpg files in ~/tmp/ < 1384125456 457853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One had the resolution in Exif metadata, one in JFIF, and one redundantly in all three of JFIF, Exif and XMP. < 1384125491 926209 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384125635 912994 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384125745 25298 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384125821 703968 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384126111 798922 :nooodl_!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1384126160 271396 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384126251 616814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!run echo "t'est" | sed 's/'\''/&\\&&' < 1384126257 528774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "t'est" | sed 's/'\''/&\\&&' < 1384126259 101161 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 9: unterminated `s' command < 1384126265 581065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "t'est" | sed 's/'\''/&\\&&/g' < 1384126267 477208 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :t'\''est < 1384126273 845681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :smashing < 1384126332 280019 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1384126363 243773 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384126414 655047 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1384126423 891386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: cool < 1384126449 557084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice example of using quickcheck to test something that isn't haskell code < 1384126470 672325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always used '"'"' instead of '\'' but the latter is probably clearer < 1384126493 701531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'but it'"'"'s so much fun' < 1384126506 668326 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either is fine, '\'' is just shorter. < 1384126561 116090 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disk space and bandwidth is really expensive after all. < 1384126607 401566 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384126714 286540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, \ might weigh more than "" < 1384126913 204214 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:d549:5a0b:84e4:9118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know much about haskell, but once its compiled i dont think it matters < 1384127101 149169 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384127121 825248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ''\'' | sed '\''h;s/'\''\'\'''\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/echo '\''\'\'''\''/;G;s/\n//;'\''' | sed 'h;s/'\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/echo '\''/;G;s/\n//;' < 1384127123 721066 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo ''\'' | sed '\''h;s/'\''\'\'''\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/echo '\''\'\'''\''/;G;s/\n//;'\''' | sed 'h;s/'\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/echo '\''/;G;s/\n//;' < 1384127177 581082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ''\'' | sed '\''h;s/'\''\'\'''\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/`run echo '\''\'\'''\''/;G;s/\n//;'\''' | sed 'h;s/'\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/`run echo '\''/;G;s/\n//;' < 1384127179 231261 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​`run echo ''\'' | sed '\''h;s/'\''\'\'''\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/`run echo '\''\'\'''\''/;G;s/\n//;'\''' | sed 'h;s/'\''/&\\&&/g;s/^/`run echo '\''/;G;s/\n//;'