< 1384214440 635927 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1384215829 892775 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything would have to be elegant somehow. < 1384215850 987207 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ballet, the programming language. < 1384215914 652743 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, language design is probably too fancy to do something as simple as intercal these days < 1384216045 810945 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only it were as easy as flipping "GO TO" around these days. < 1384216059 689024 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you parody coroutines, hm < 1384216111 553149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384216351 359337 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In order to represent the alienation of the modern man, data cannot be passed between coroutines." < 1384216420 1053 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can one even screw up that badly? :-D https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/jenkinsci-dev/-myjRIPcVwU/t4nkXONp8qgJ < 1384216486 789766 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, Google apparently has an INTERCAL style guide. http://cadie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INTERCAL-style-guide.html < 1384216520 158539 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah, awesome < 1384216569 417468 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRT the Jenkins thing it was apparently a badly configured plugin for their code review system. < 1384216646 381170 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384216676 830484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/ncis-to-cease-print-edition,34523/ < 1384216696 605287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: they sure flogged those repositories < 1384216925 214992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: is that an allusion to the onion itself ceasing its print edition < 1384216937 187931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I assume so < 1384216985 526839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i somehow saw mention in a norwegian newspaper's travel guide about a brooklyn hotel < 1384216990 322124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mentioned < 1384217122 938041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://literallyunbelievable.org/post/66676985668/the-onion-is-usually-not-creditable < 1384217314 919449 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1384217327 227742 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384217376 509397 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1384217383 716576 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384217409 24375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : reasonably < really < 1384217417 920432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "reasonably" < "really" < 1384217418 996736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1384217420 823852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1384217423 413681 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384217452 234848 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let (reasonably,really) = ("really","reasonably") in reasonably < really < 1384217453 368742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1384217454 577718 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :checkmate < 1384217472 587232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well those are of course really reasonable definitions < 1384217742 100863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "reasonably" < "rea‍lly" < 1384217743 186532 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:20: < 1384217743 343125 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\... < 1384217747 646719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eff you < 1384218000 813058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "hä" < 1384218001 915392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "h\228" < 1384218030 964636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're not utf-8 clean? < 1384218053 172286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN < 1384218055 752335 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1384218067 201222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 dirty < 1384218070 223146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "☃" < 1384218071 299337 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\9731" < 1384218096 36036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "" < 1384218097 102754 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384218097 259249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\SI' < 1384218136 472448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode ZERO-WIDTH JOINER < 1384218137 796794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1384218160 381791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo > < 1384218161 943043 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​> < 1384218174 95709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "" < 1384218175 170383 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1384218240 335753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "reasonably" < "really" < 1384218241 394751 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1384218249 243519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1384218291 32638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "reasonably" < "really" < 1384218292 111243 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : False < 1384218305 961121 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/SGOW < 1384218308 100241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> " ​>" < 1384218309 168496 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: < 1384218309 324858 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384218311 535746 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 41.7 < 1384218314 923269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1384218343 811743 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ">" < 1384218344 895113 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ">" < 1384218349 315418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> " ​" < 1384218350 396782 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: < 1384218350 553053 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384218374 738119 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384218390 23335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord " ​>" < 1384218391 101466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:11: < 1384218391 257788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\... < 1384218398 150138 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1384218476 771397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​ < 1384218478 493517 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0020 SPACE] [U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1384218484 338049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1384218486 266799 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1384218540 815258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's disturbing, delete deletes the zero width space together with the preceding space < 1384218569 611923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​ < 1384218571 342449 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1384218580 270522 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1384218593 382176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: does it do the same for printable diacritic combiners? < 1384218604 3545 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1384218626 833099 :shikhin_!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384218633 301376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it means i cannot usefully paste just a zero width space into irssi < 1384218839 385991 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384218856 486726 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used ISO 14755 mode < 1384218875 435817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold Ctrl-Shift in urxvt and then you can type hex digits < 1384218902 390008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that my score went down < 1384218937 592370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0x200b < 1384218938 873783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8203 < 1384218978 720899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​ < 1384218980 521922 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1384219009 88884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt+numpad works, in decimal. but then i have to remember the code. < 1384219011 970336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/WHfL < 1384219016 917070 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 44.9 < 1384219042 517321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "​" < 1384219043 588328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384219043 744711 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219066 25916 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​ < 1384219067 637569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] < 1384219091 580676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: lambdabot is still not utf-8 clean hth​ < 1384219165 492735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why it accepts the snowman but not zero width space is beyond me... < 1384219188 192249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :snowman conquers all < 1384219200 939913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "☃​" < 1384219202 267570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: < 1384219202 423786 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219226 194793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1384219234 796899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ☃​ < 1384219234 953342 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 152 131 226 128 139 < 1384219330 252902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> " " < 1384219331 340274 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\8202" < 1384219347 147022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "‌" < 1384219348 239439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384219348 395759 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219364 913475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord  ​‌ < 1384219366 826033 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :8202 8203 8204 < 1384219374 798697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/PDLa < 1384219378 523734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord  ​‌ < 1384219378 719472 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 128 138 226 128 139 226 128 140 < 1384219379 777074 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 45.5 < 1384219398 160206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it accepts the first, but not the two next < 1384219438 335331 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384219478 855675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ☌ < 1384219480 714389 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9740 < 1384219487 607436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ☌ < 1384219487 763833 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 152 140 < 1384219504 542104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "☋" < 1384219505 646859 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\9739" < 1384219546 308820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ☃☋​ < 1384219546 502259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 152 131 226 152 139 226 128 139 < 1384219573 244480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, there is no particular byte triggering it. < 1384219622 668286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‌ < 1384219624 396936 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200C ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER] < 1384219659 269173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "‍" < 1384219660 340038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384219660 496484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219671 483357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‍ < 1384219673 456490 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER] < 1384219701 724209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode   < 1384219703 377002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200A HAIR SPACE] < 1384219721 512216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lambdabot simply breaking on anything that's zero width? < 1384219769 847693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‎ < 1384219771 636487 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200E LEFT-TO-RIGHT MARK] < 1384219779 847335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "‎" < 1384219780 929798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384219781 86322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219816 16216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "a‌b" < 1384219817 131634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:3: < 1384219817 288161 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384219828 86571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode a‌b < 1384219829 753978 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+200C ZERO WIDTH NON-JOINER] [U+0062 LATIN SMALL LETTER B] < 1384219918 431356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ghci does the same thing < 1384220003 426785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and accepts the snowman < 1384220182 985680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8203' < 1384220184 99400 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Format < 1384220192 212580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8202' < 1384220193 307901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Space < 1384220195 975767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8204' < 1384220197 38480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Format < 1384220199 450269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8205' < 1384220200 532334 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Format < 1384220202 836455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8206' < 1384220203 924947 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Format < 1384220209 148737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8207' < 1384220210 227247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Format < 1384220219 48501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "‏" < 1384220220 116809 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: < 1384220220 273373 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384220259 513552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say it doesn't like Format characters < 1384220377 296227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "ߟ" < 1384220378 374537 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\2015" < 1384220413 134561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find similar issues on ghc trac but they're old, slightly different, and claimed to be fixed. < 1384221162 209603 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1384221232 196810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/KXCd < 1384221236 331238 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 49.0 < 1384221260 716880 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :tied with quicklock! :/ < 1384221610 723261 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384221682 577581 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/XBCa < 1384221687 707346 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 49.9 < 1384221860 172307 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384222986 945769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn reading the haskell report makes me think this is intended behavior; the characters allowed in literals are restricted to "graphic" characters, which doesn't include formatting ones, i think. < 1384223060 51103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`can bin/zalgo < 1384223061 174619 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: can: not found < 1384223065 444867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/zalgo < 1384223067 214582 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/python \ import codecs,sys,random \ stdin=codecs.getreader("utf-8")(sys.stdin) \ stdout=codecs.getwriter("utf-8")(sys.stdout) \ x=[unichr(0x300+i) for i in range(0,112)+[393,2887]] \ def z(n,c): \ if c in ["\n"]+x: \ n=0 \ return u"".join(x[random.randrange(0,len(x))] for i in range(n)) \ stdout.write(u"".join(c+z(2,c) for c in st < 1384223070 676113 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/WHcY < 1384223072 39105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's not my zalgo < 1384223076 73851 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 49.0 < 1384223079 762800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :import System.Random;main=mapM_((>>(י=< "̃" < 1384223151 801812 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\771" < 1384223155 213097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> Data.Char.generalCategory '\8202' < 1384223156 291808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : Space < 1384223162 851250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> " " < 1384223163 938852 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\8202" < 1384223182 754649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :by my reading this isn't actually allowed either. < 1384223196 292568 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's a space, right? < 1384223205 742770 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What name is that? < 1384223225 945974 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently HAIR SPACE. < 1384223227 499391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/NHfA < 1384223231 154253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and the BNF does not include uniWhite in graphic. < 1384223232 749183 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 48.7 < 1384223275 854503 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map negate [1, 2, 3] < 1384223277 136249 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-1,-2,-3] < 1384223282 801365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i can report this as two alternative bugs. < 1384223299 215311 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how   is considered whitespace. < 1384223347 246391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OGHAM SPACE MARK would be a good name for a currency in science fiction < 1384223417 654379 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1384223421 580571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1384223448 172431 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I like it. < 1384223448 372704 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-24-147-92-50.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1384223453 152181 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ogham seems like kind of a bad alphabet. < 1384223567 883810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "t\ \est" < 1384223568 963099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:4: < 1384223569 119766 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\8... < 1384223603 979546 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, who thought it was a good idea to have four different letters each consisting of five parallel lines? < 1384223611 874105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fantastic, it allows that character _except_ where the report allows it. < 1384223634 404763 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost every letter consists of a number of near-vertical parallel lines. < 1384223647 915444 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "t\ \est?" < 1384223648 987047 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "test?" < 1384223687 194826 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "-\ \-\ \-\ \-\ \-" < 1384223688 264319 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:4: < 1384223688 420784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\5... < 1384223691 578322 :tswett!~quassel@ec2-184-72-227-152.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1384223864 765260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> " " < 1384223865 904076 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\8202" < 1384223998 753202 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/CHXJ < 1384224003 986699 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 49.3 < 1384224547 26112 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/cXbC < 1384224552 135819 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 49.4 < 1384224742 694172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :death under ptrace < 1384224800 196635 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peetrace < 1384224809 139925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1384224813 792310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/DgQU < 1384224817 781567 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 55.1 < 1384224875 879628 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the sound of me changing the size of the decoy that ais was using to figure out where my flag was in omnipotence. rightful station restored! < 1384225181 372102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :death to ptrace < 1384225828 845063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/YEBA < 1384225834 8867 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 55.2 < 1384225843 120601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1384226628 446809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust space_hotel http://sprunge.us/hZKY < 1384226633 559858 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for quintopia_space_hotel: 54.1 < 1384228418 893072 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384228970 436265 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1384229567 843319 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384230449 189817 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384230493 880337 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a program where you can fight bfjoust bots manually < 1384230537 804360 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear people use bfjsout on the web < 1384230946 679810 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384231141 373045 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384231190 4145 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1384231325 739298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid self-aware makefiles < 1384231380 912778 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION panics and puts the makefile in a box < 1384231442 422146 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't work < 1384231450 608463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Sgeo for thinking ai boxes work -----### < 1384231797 208857 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384231885 626981 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's bfjsout on the web < 1384231959 519280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's bfjoust in javascript < 1384231977 547343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why google doesn't find it < 1384232025 572427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/index.php < 1384232279 710745 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384232441 74819 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so um < 1384232470 908163 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :by manually i meant you press left to go left, right to go right, up to increment etc < 1384232638 523289 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO < 1384232641 839973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no idea) < 1384232682 312955 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you think manually meant < 1384232695 924273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not putting them on the hill < 1384232697 718898 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"in such a way that the results are shown on a webpage instead of an irc channel" < 1384232702 277336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1384232739 5571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that will be unfair to the bots unless you need an instruction (equivalent to [) in order to check the value of your current cell. < 1384232778 663733 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized it'd be unfair, but i didn't realize it's that easy to fix < 1384232795 607840 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the hill < 1384232806 359145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bfjoust < 1384232806 808688 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for bfjoust! < 1384232809 711673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1384232810 59040 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1384232866 197481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/report.txt < 1384232884 593531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list of currently competing programs < 1384232892 316262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with scores < 1384232951 641649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/ has the actual code < 1384233030 451090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to think more of making a category of spells in Icosahedral RPG, although it seems the way I have it, the distributive law fails on spell durations. There may be a few different ways to fix this, though. < 1384233068 73718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: actually the check only should tell you if the current cell is zero, of course < 1384233176 793825 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/ doesn't make it very clear which player is which < 1384233337 691720 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did determine that (prime) objects could be WORLD and EVENT. An ordinary spell that you can cast is (WORLD -> WORLD). EVENT is used for triggers, so a (WORLD -> EVENT) spell can trigger things in a (EVENT -> WORLD) spell; what exactly it triggers depends on the spell. < 1384233342 288293 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this seem OK? < 1384233578 59563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: um that lists individual programs, not matches. < 1384233703 394257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the report, they're listed by ID. and + seems to mean the row ID wins. < 1384233926 120217 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have accidentally convinced my boss's boss to buy proprietary software < 1384234054 413338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you monster < 1384234073 466830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RMS will be so disappointed with you < 1384234180 693956 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You advised your boss's boss about software? What use of the software is it? < 1384234208 872973 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Charles Web Proxy, he saw me using it and I mentioned that I liked it and he saw how convenient it made testing stuff < 1384234252 961736 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, if there's no equiv. to FiddlerScript, that would really suck < 1384234364 613612 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1384234365 870844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By inspecting the web interface HTML you can derive how to use it as web services to automate Charles." < 1384234380 974099 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1384234406 620643 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :automate that shite good < 1384234482 868669 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...its idea of a web interface doesn't include modifying any settings beyond enabled/disabled < 1384234485 690139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you call them your metaboss < 1384234486 567919 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1384234538 644311 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sorry, i was on the bfjsout page, and wanted to copy it. it had that on the url row and it looked wrong so i refreshed. the url stayed the same so i figured it's correct. < 1384234547 183169 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the first time this has happened < 1384234565 560647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still called egojsout nyaaaar. < 1384234580 342567 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384234588 561576 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Managed to keep quiet for the first dozen times.) < 1384234616 487677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: probably why i didn't find it with google < 1384234875 536490 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but so which is left < 1384234879 548372 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is left up? < 1384234885 567509 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:45f9:4603:b2cf:1950 QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1384235001 770779 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:ed81:9a53:e987:30ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1384235540 610464 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lets-try-this-evolver-again >>++>>(>[>([(+)*5[-]]>)*-1])*-1 < 1384235543 623285 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_lets-try-this-evolver-again: 30.8 < 1384235564 885190 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait a second... < 1384235571 785160 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guh < 1384235573 649000 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reconfiguration time < 1384235578 148757 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lets-try-this-evolver-again < < 1384235580 928011 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_lets-try-this-evolver-again: 0.0 < 1384235799 710564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wat < 1384235851 672086 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What other objects could this category of spells include? (It is a tensor category, so all of the products exist too) < 1384236040 50122 :Oj742!~Oj742@c-71-59-199-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: irc2go < 1384236230 829473 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/egojsout/index.php doesn't make it very clear which player is which, in the sense that you choose an upper player and a lower player and then it says right wins < 1384236239 28779 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is right < 1384236262 812856 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :baby don't hurt me < 1384236287 336913 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384236313 786019 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384236360 263353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more < 1384236369 897311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no more clue than you do < 1384236394 839392 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i assume right is down and left is up, just wanted to point it out that really no actual clue is given which is which, anywhere on the page. < 1384236406 526364 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i can see < 1384236423 29147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spoooooooooooky < 1384236432 526385 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384236459 596403 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CSS is adding support for vertical writing which means that we have to start saying "measure" and "extent" instead of "width" and "height" < 1384236565 726693 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL L LLL how about the japanese add mental support for only writing like us white people write < 1384236570 73702 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead < 1384236582 588368 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf meow ++++++++++++++++++++(-)*-1 < 1384236591 295654 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust meow ++++++++++++++++++++(-)*-1 < 1384236591 640925 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is -1 infinity < 1384236596 118972 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_meow: 14.1 < 1384236596 922602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't japanese mostly written horizontally anyway < 1384236600 769983 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. (to both) < 1384236615 349951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this stuff tho http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Guyuk_khan%27s_Stamp_1246.jpg < 1384236617 9939 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just saw it written vertically 15 minutes ago < 1384236617 166368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it is, nowadays < 1384236618 470487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you not love that < 1384236622 779452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, mostly < 1384236635 866256 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's when i last saw japanese text) < 1384236636 22910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mongolian owns though. < 1384236651 96782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet i will see some japanese text in japan < 1384236656 386319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :will report back w/ findnigs < 1384236659 599744 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's just make mongolian the default for everything. it's been seven hundred years, we can give them a world empire again < 1384236665 493464 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i already saw a lot of japanese text in the seoul airport and such < 1384236668 572629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see it vertically a lot in manga books, although some of it is written horizontally. In computer games though, it is mostly horizontal. < 1384236669 126884 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes make a statistication < 1384236678 412714 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol are you drunk < 1384236687 442490 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope! < 1384236695 363241 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf meow (--+)*-1 < 1384236695 612874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[cn] < 1384236698 481919 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjout meow (--+)*-1 < 1384236700 723663 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust meow (--+)*-1 < 1384236704 635736 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_meow: 16.3 < 1384236706 405381 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :My evolver likes vibrators way too much < 1384236709 506274 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it lymia i believe in you < 1384236716 886410 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a lot of japanese text in taiwan, but most of it made no sense < 1384236747 608260 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have to look up which scripts are still primarily written vertically. < 1384236764 605551 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wikipedia has an entire article on text orientation in cjk < 1384236791 855549 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384236825 558180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this Windows I have "MS Gothic" font installed for Japanese writing; it also makes a font "@MS Gothic" available which turns most things sideways; I suppose this is for vertical writing in a program that is for horizontal writing. < 1384236830 822848 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, wikipedia's 'vertically' in the mongolian script article links to the cjk one. < 1384236841 119469 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This developed because the Uyghurs rotated their Sogdian-derived script, originally written right to left, 90 degrees counterclockwise to emulate Chinese writing, but without changing the relative orientation of the letters" < 1384236845 162617 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language is awesome. < 1384236888 304494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it looks like vertical Japanese writing is still used a lot in manga and other things, although horizontal Japanese writing is also very common, it seems. < 1384236954 511679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first major thing to write chinese horizontally was Science (I guess not the journal?) < 1384236957 517762 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This magazine is printed so that it goes sideways from the top left, and is marked with Western punctuation. This is to make the insertion of mathematical, physical and chemical formulae convenient, not for the sake of novelty-hunting. We ask our readers to excuse us." < 1384236959 527178 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In "Sushi Plus" restaurant in Victoria, BC, there are a few Japanese signs, which are written using vertical writing; the whiteboard (which is turned backwards for some reason) also has vertical Japanese writing on it. < 1384236961 522883 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :novelty-hunting < 1384237055 829642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have several issues of the (English) "Science" magazine; I got them for free from the doctor's office; they didn't want them anymore so they gave all of them to me. < 1384237300 139839 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384238008 712930 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-136.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384238197 732435 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384238390 801273 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:ed81:9a53:e987:30ca QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1384239389 378200 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust meow .-(--+)*-1 < 1384239394 450510 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_meow: 19.4 < 1384239666 754097 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust meow .+(--+)*-1 < 1384239670 546412 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_meow: 18.2 < 1384239672 481055 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust meow .-(--+)*-1 < 1384239677 193978 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Lymia_meow: 19.4 < 1384239836 157543 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-136.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384239908 447437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 is automagically equal to the cycle count. < 1384239918 774764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If that wasn't mentioned already.) < 1384239934 103051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle count of what < 1384239944 899718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maximum cycle count, I should say. < 1384239946 909957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The limit. < 1384239951 241115 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1384239963 757750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The OUTER LIMITS. < 1384240002 332714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What are you doing in Seoul anyway, some kinda Mozilla thing? < 1384240007 428065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1384240055 536875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bunch of people from Samsung are working with us on this Servo project, and they invited us to spend the week working out of their office < 1384240115 592641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'll be doing that until Friday, then I'll do tourist stuff in Seoul until Monday night, when I fly to Osaka < 1384240126 487599 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I'll do tourist stuff in Japan until Sunday! < 1384240155 701666 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384240156 56810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any #esotericers in .jp? < 1384240218 79594 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as far as I know, but there are some Japanese stuff related to esoteric programming. < 1384240256 389896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there's one in korea though < 1384240263 570313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves at lifthras1ir < 1384240264 164851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really, who? < 1384240266 789841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi lifthras1ir < 1384240303 814337 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any #esotericers on the moon? < 1384240305 452768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a lurker from .jp some months, one of those who again said nothing. < 1384240333 54346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthras1ir doesn't say much these days :/ < 1384240367 685430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I don't think so. (And I hope the IAC doesn't destroy the moon and replace it with a fake.) < 1384240385 832268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they... have plans for that? < 1384240407 66348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they should replace it with a bust of alexander abian. it would only be fitting. < 1384240408 518045 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For destroying the moon? I don't think so; IAC is just a fictional organization in some of my works. < 1384240427 379127 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 has destroyed the IAC and replced it with a fake. :-( < 1384240441 852343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :twist: zzo38 is an scp < 1384240462 767306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :classification euclid < 1384240489 265702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he'd be safe if the foundation understood him) < 1384240518 881542 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a tall order. < 1384240525 705996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, euclid. < 1384240767 939147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tall order? < 1384241032 70977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also as seen on #esoteric, http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1960-j < 1384241514 37000 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1384243470 247264 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384243508 216748 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384243508 373254 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384244215 324637 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Debris and sometimes even people can get swept up into a blast wave, causing more injuries such as penetrating wounds, impalement, broken bones, or even death.” < 1384244382 280759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :injuries such as death < 1384244643 715322 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384244704 544973 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Before GitHub existed, major companies created their knowledge mainly in private. But when you access their GitHub accounts, you're free to download, study, and build upon anything they add to the network" < 1384244708 526414 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :github invented open source < 1384244710 816744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you heard it here first < 1384244801 404734 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why we can't have private repositories < 1384244813 777916 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, this is the first time I've heard that < 1384244862 723950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason I don't seem to be able to clone Windows 8.1 sources from https://github.com/microsoft -- must be some kind of temporary glitch. < 1384244963 477702 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit surprised that https://github.com/microsoft doesn't exist < 1384244995 564877 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That is because they use CodePlex for their open source projects, isn't it? < 1384245157 15041 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384245309 158045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1384245398 814787 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384245587 266126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know they probably do, when they have any. < 1384245728 40136 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :git is not really the most windows-friendly system < 1384245790 164589 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although git does work on Cygwin (which isn't Microsoft). < 1384245807 355428 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because windows is not really the most git-friendly system. < 1384245821 175059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384245852 861675 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1384245931 344036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1384245942 693297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :awfully early eh < 1384245953 147639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I woke up like 7 hours ago < 1384245961 101909 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't slept yet < 1384245961 258362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say something to the tune of "hey, those line lengths match", but they would have to, wouldn't they? < 1384245966 57508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you being here has reminded me < 1384245978 593284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust preparation http://nethack4.org/esolangs/preparation.bj < 1384245986 640439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see how much better this does < 1384245989 171732 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_preparation: 42.6 < 1384245992 309357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and whether the scoring system still hates it < 1384246006 35469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie updated stats earlier < 1384246022 357286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it's now correctly shown as /way/ ahead of omnipotence on points < 1384246064 432766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm < 1384246071 671197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced juiced is getting the same results as *lance is < 1384246082 240009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me run the hill myself and see if there are discrepancies < 1384246103 347568 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cycle limit is 100000, right? this code actually depends on the exact value of the cycle limit < 1384246110 892803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :100k, yes. < 1384246124 223482 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've "verified" *lance against egojsout, incidentally. < 1384246149 723089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The console edition of egojsout was my first node.js thing ever.) < 1384246155 393308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… juiced says preparation beats brachiation < 1384246162 294676 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot says brachiation wins < 1384246194 33496 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see… breakdown says <>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> <>><><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> 2 < 1384246293 663015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. egojsout says -8 and a win for preparation. < 1384246294 994903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :juiced says <>>><<>>><>><<>>>>>>> <>><><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> < 1384246314 993046 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>>><<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> <>><><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> 2 < 1384246318 126183 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>>><<>>><>><<>>>>>>> <>><><<<<<<<<<>>>>>>> -8 < 1384246328 946292 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like juiced agrees with egojsout < 1384246365 445521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea < 1384246365 601985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparation is seen to pretty much destroy on mid to long tapes < 1384246373 999735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparation has some digits in comments < 1384246377 15750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they're confusing the parser < 1384246393 643661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My local copy of cranklance agrees with egojsout and juiced. < 1384246403 379670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, gearlance, but they're the same code. < 1384246452 643408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what do you think of my BF Joust comment grammar < 1384246458 709743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't use many punctuation marks < 1384246464 849198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I use semicolons for basically all punctuation, also some colons < 1384246469 402554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and slashes are used as parens < 1384246478 228791 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 261 seconds < 1384246514 746196 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384246539 165696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I think I found it < 1384246542 13920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whitespace between a * and a digit < 1384246560 898060 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it called when a markov can (or can't) split it into independent disconnected parts < 1384246561 54428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the point where you start looking for a debugger for GNU Make, something has gone seriously wrong in life < 1384246561 210795 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to start using magicmake or whatever he calls it < 1384246561 211007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there's also msysgit < 1384246561 367316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that's not cygwin based < 1384246561 523786 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384246561 802367 :ski!~md9slj@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384246563 901738 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1384246623 865137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like elliot < 1384246625 351767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*elliott < 1384246628 437238 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing numbers out as words < 1384246644 471269 :ski!~md9slj@129.16.29.79 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384246735 885584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust preparation http://nethack4.org/esolangs/preparation.bj < 1384246740 509165 :EgoBot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for ais523_preparation: 47.1 < 1384246754 800160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1384246762 754517 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now tops the hill on points, and is #3 on weighted rankings < 1384246765 764848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it can't beat space_hotel < 1384246777 704132 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384246778 387060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Hmm. Whitespace shouldn't affect the *lance parser at all, for as long as I remember. < 1384246792 614314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perhaps that's why gearlance agrees with juiced :) < 1384246815 146819 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384246821 233399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay; since Mar 06, 2011, apparently. < 1384246842 117631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :juiced appears to have a special case for ignoring whitespace after a % or a * < 1384246860 726333 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, it parses "*10 0" as "*100" < 1384246887 182873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually what current *lance does, too. < 1384246897 813068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :experts on hill scoring, would you say that I need crazy special cases against space_hotel to get it to top the hill? < 1384246897 969458 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It ignores all whitespace completely.) < 1384246908 493411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would you say I should try to improve its performance against the field at large? < 1384246920 962255 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1384246987 613278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before 2011-03-06 20:25:49, *lance would've parsed "* 10 0" as *0; from 20:25:49 to 23:15:21 it would have parsed as *10; ever since that, as *100. < 1384247000 373930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually think space_hotel is the most impressive program on the hill < 1384247016 779954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(waterfall3 is the most insane, but preparation has to be a close second) < 1384247021 244914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I added a special case for handling whitespace after */% first; then removed it and completely ignored all nonessential characters on a lower level instead.) < 1384247049 210780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :juiced apparently has a compile-time option for whether it should conflate * and % < 1384247056 950165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just look at {} to tell them apart < 1384247063 950450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote this code ages ago, can hardly remember how it works < 1384247073 928933 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does produce pretty debug traces, though < 1384247104 529736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lanced doesn't distinguish between * and % either. < 1384247108 920622 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/d// < 1384247213 820295 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384247246 490196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a couple of new entries in the lance family (torquelance, wrenchlance) the other day, but they're p. silly. < 1384247273 403357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they do? < 1384247280 630923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote at the point where you start looking for a debugger for GNU Make, something has gone seriously wrong in life < 1384247288 277170 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1131) at the point where you start looking for a debugger for GNU Make, something has gone seriously wrong in life < 1384247305 882726 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1384247317 631274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I find preparation really hilarious < 1384247328 735254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's amusing seeing it about to lose and then cycle 100000 hit < 1384247344 406231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think it's more efficient if I just point at the (reasonably short) descriptions at https://github.com/fis/chainlance/blob/master/README.md instead, maybe. < 1384247348 212286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a previous version, there was some program/tape length combo where its flag was 0 when time ran out, IIRC, but that doens't happen any more < 1384247349 694348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good idea < 1384247453 937388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the difference between this version of preparation and the previous one is that it tries to establish the probabilistic lock a second time if it fails first time < 1384247464 440509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it still knows where the enemy tape pointer is < 1384247483 455538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realised that one of the defining properties of probabilistic locks is that they don't always work, so trying again can be worthwhile < 1384247534 273597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, wow, I didn't realise quicklock was doing so well < 1384247537 355094 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to read up on how it works < 1384247571 35539 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, it's a combination of a poke and defend10's lock algorithm < 1384247575 521636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so very similar to omnipotence < 1384247599 432295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the details seem different < 1384247611 330626 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, it attempts to synchronize with tripwires < 1384247619 776314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas omnipotence synchronizes via not setting decoys < 1384247639 313069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One way to avoid nondistributive durations would be for castable spells to not be endomorphisms. Maybe there is a better way? < 1384247647 228945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow I feel like the length-to-score scatter plot -- http://zem.fi/egostats/plot_lenscore.png -- looks more "trendy" these days. < 1384247716 858048 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I should do the Electron Band Structure In Germanium, My Ass thing in it. < 1384247730 577404 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Banking on my hopes that whoever grades this will just look at the pictures, I drew an exponential through my noise. I believe the apparent legitimacy is enhanced by the fact that I used a complicated computer program to make the fit. I understand this is the same process by which the top quark was discovered.") < 1384247759 737164 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's that a quote from? < 1384247793 500067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, program length is mostly just an indication of attack versus defence, and whether or not it pokes < 1384247809 430519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, defence programs keep doing quite high on the hill mostly because I try really hard to make that the case < 1384247817 906571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as part of my ongoing project into determining whether BF Joust is broken or not < 1384247823 494343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :current conclusion: it isn't < 1384247834 343533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparation beats death_to_defence < 1384247862 972423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~kovar/hall.html which I think somehow got mildly famous. < 1384247913 171470 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, on tape length 10, preparation always loses in exactly eighteen cycles < 1384247916 687764 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the opponent suicides first < 1384247921 203289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other people argue on whether bitcoin is broken or not, not understanding where the *real* money is. (That's BF Joust.) < 1384247925 33518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sacrificing tape length 10 in a rush program proved to be a bad idea < 1384247947 687982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, in a defence program, it's normally worth it because synchronizing defence programs have effectively no chance on tape length 10 anyway < 1384247974 806684 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384248017 700035 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, the grouping thing groups preparation and space_hotel together < 1384248027 9000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though the only thing they have in common is that they beat basically everything < 1384248037 790677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's two grouping things these days. < 1384248058 285735 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the first one is based on duel scores, so it can be misled by that sort of thing, I guess. < 1384248093 504412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tape heatmap grouping doesn't really group preparation with anything in particular. < 1384248112 941321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, anyone who wants to know how preparation works, this graph is a giveaway: http://zem.fi/egostats/plot_tapeheat.png < 1384248119 617809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although fizzie might want to move the legend, it's in the way < 1384248136 134125 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because nobody expected a program to do that < 1384248193 652266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I remember selecting top-middle for the legend because there used to be always a valley in there. < 1384248198 145905 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I'm not surprised the heatmap can't link preparation with anything < 1384248218 810381 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never before has a program spent the majority of the cycles on tape position 9 < 1384248221 74978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps, never again < 1384248246 61630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preparation's issue is that it can't move very far before it has to go back to re-establish its lock < 1384248262 284466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it wants to be in a central position on the tape so as to increase its range of movement < 1384248436 23412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, http://zem.fi/egostats/plot_p21_ptapemax.png is possibly an even bigger giveaway as to how preparation works < 1384248441 68729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also where the name comes from < 1384248452 702901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was supposed to have a Skype meeting in two minutes, but the only one of the participants I have on my contact list seems to have disappeared. < 1384248458 189711 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://zem.fi/egostats/plot_p21_ptapeheat.png is quite revealing too < 1384248488 884674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's especially worth noting the discontinuity between tape lengths 17 and 18 < 1384248494 317379 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where it changes strategy < 1384248521 995788 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could write paragraphs just on the "how does it know whether the tape length is above or below 17.5 anyway?") < 1384248531 146909 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384248549 472343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyway, I have another interesting statistic, which I added to juiced recently for preparation testing < 1384248557 333000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :number of cycles a program takes to win, compared to tape length < 1384248676 511345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the weirdest feeling I was doing something that involved both tape lengths and duel lengths, but there indeed seems not to be anything like that on the page. < 1384248724 74425 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any basic pokemons that *always* evolve when traded? < 1384248738 822314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: no, Everstone < 1384248757 723483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah, OK. Yes, I forgot. < 1384248787 345122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if there were any, would it be prohibited to tamper with the trainer ID numbers of such a pokemon in a tournament that allows tampering with the data? < 1384248790 154950 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: even allowing for that, all the always-evolve-apart-from-everstone mons I know of are stage 1 < 1384248803 580961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can cancel the evolution by pressing B < 1384248813 484655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1384248815 428468 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, that is what I thought, too (both of them). < 1384248847 850164 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384248848 6775 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of any evolves-on-trade-without-specific-item pokemon past generation 1, either < 1384248878 284756 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones from later generations all seem to require holding a specific item < 1384248959 132000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But hypothetically assume that there are some which are basic, do not require any specific item, cannot use Everstone for some reason, and cannot be cancelled. Simply to see if you can even try to guess such an answer of a question. < 1384249042 227525 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's mostly due to the (not 100% strictly followed) rule that any new evolutions should have been impossible in previous gens < 1384249055 615076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(My brother said he didn't know.) < 1384249065 510441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you can just reset one of the games until it has the same trainer ID as a different game < 1384249195 697946 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sure you can, but I don't think that would affect it at all. That may allow you to tamper with the trainer ID number of a stage 1 form if both the basic and stage 1 are like what I said, though, I suppose??? < 1384249206 235980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I said a basic form. < 1384249212 926944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1384249222 446939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the question's as to whether you could legally have that mon with an OT that doesn't match your own < 1384249239 47901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not new to the generation, you could migrate it from a previous generation < 1384249242 481478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't cause evolution < 1384249264 106116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, you are correct. I didn't think of that. < 1384249268 97770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you could use an official external box program (Pokémon Box / My Pokémon Ranch / Pokémon Bank), that doesn't cause evolution either < 1384249277 677280 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and normally allows unboxing onto a different cartridge if you've beaten the Champion < 1384249287 301501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know of that, but OK. < 1384249315 189766 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384249610 467872 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother also said that an exception to the rule about tampering with the data is the color of the pokeball is allowed to be changed to one that isn't obtainable under those circumstances since it has no effect on the game. < 1384249649 664661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it used to have an effect, you could determine which moves a Pokémon might potentially have by whether it was in a Poké Ball or Cherish Ball (the two balls that give the most possibilities) < 1384249654 931133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that was changed in X/Y < 1384249674 981410 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which generations do they have an effect? < 1384249830 965735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: definitely 4 and 5, probably 3 as well < 1384249891 112303 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1384249970 364913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps he made a mistake then. (Although I suppose it would still have no effect during battle, unless opponent is allowed to see your pokeballs in which case it clearly does have an effect.) < 1384250013 401976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the opponent is allowed to see your Pokéballs < 1384250017 323229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're visible as you send the Pokémon out < 1384250032 245546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, OK, then. He did clearly make a mistake. < 1384250063 642021 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nerds < 1384250086 467091 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody proofe turing completeness of pokemon! < 1384250119 837900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it isn't, no infinite storage < 1384250144 223916 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be modified < 1384250189 462159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is immediately what I thought of too; no infinite storage. Both in the actual Pokemon game, and in the Pokemon card game which has various limits, some of which imply other limits, I think. < 1384250258 849626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If there is a card that prevent you from being knocked out when having too much damage, then you could potentially have unlimited amounts of damage, in the card game at least.) < 1384250263 47894 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try what modifications you need to make it turing complete < 1384250278 111175 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are they, then? < 1384250291 396425 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384250476 442081 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: kinda relevant, http://aurellem.org/vba-clojure/html/total-control.html < 1384250522 100331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that's old, but yeah, started something of a revolution < 1384250526 373662 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though that's not pokemon being turing-complete, as much as a buffer-overflow into Z80 land, and Z80 being turing-complete < 1384250534 803836 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eniqgbpqbjxenojv QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384250544 139505 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not-quite-Z80-but-kinda-Z80 IIRC < 1384250550 294441 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384250561 370945 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know, but it seemed relevant to the question < 1384250563 878169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :z80 isn't turing complete either < 1384250566 911384 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I guess it is < 1384250573 163838 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpghrpqujpzrgqti JOIN :#esoteric < 1384250606 447587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that < 1384250606 641271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, bah. Modulo space and addressing issues < 1384251093 974264 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384251169 165168 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-161.rentec.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384251281 774059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could somehow attach infinite storage through the link cable port? < 1384251310 995359 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384251345 909828 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should sell usb attached RAM to people < 1384251385 674959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: Windows 8 (possibly 7 too) has a feature that lets you use a USB stick as RAM < 1384251395 412548 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1384251397 913036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which strikes me as a really bad idea, given that they aren't really designed for that < 1384251403 639024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess people think "hey, cheap extra RAM" < 1384251411 869203 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just buy 1 gb usb sticks and sell them for 4 times the price < 1384253747 447931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that there was some particular configuration of Linux-on-x86 where you had some regular RAM that wasn't usable normally, but you could get an MTD block device on it, and then use that as a fast swap device. < 1384253771 123990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also you can put swap in GPU ram with MTD kludgery.) < 1384253864 172412 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384253877 97510 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384253901 52576 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384253901 208915 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384253926 137326 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384254027 130481 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That actually sounds nice, except for the fact that your swap costs more than RAM. < 1384254235 507494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric : I think there's no other language where the interpreter is easier to write than "hello world". < 1384254244 765172 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about OISCs? < 1384254293 572420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Ah, but you can use it for swap during those times you're not using it for graphics. < 1384254298 238756 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need a language where the self-interpreter happens to be "hello world" < 1384254303 992088 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sadly, I don't think there's a very good mechanism to switch.) < 1384254657 517982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm… in retrospect, it's not surprising that Birmingham University had bought a license to the Algol 60 specification < 1384254664 952104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that those things probably last forever < 1384254672 238894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at one point, it would probably have been pretty important for them < 1384255126 937364 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1384259855 71618 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384259907 315308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384261666 373975 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384261694 705600 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384261960 932103 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good moily < 1384262021 562251 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintorning. < 1384262909 653298 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384264129 493020 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384264353 359831 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384264375 241364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KPDK < 1384264375 811039 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPDK 121253Z 00000KT 7SM CLR 05/04 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP220 T00500039 < 1384264379 65924 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1384264379 528081 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 121323Z 27018G23KT 15SM BKN040 M03/M10 A3012 RMK SC7 SLP200 < 1384264705 838564 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if all Kxxx stations are assigned. < 1384264925 532449 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 26 * 26 * 26 < 1384264926 521632 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :17576 < 1384265289 409626 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, someone called me? :) < 1384265293 844516 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 NICK :lifthrasiir < 1384265498 975567 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthellosiir. < 1384265509 873565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :were you pinged by a random letter combination? < 1384265822 737451 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384265928 942920 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1384265929 427534 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz NICK :hogeyui < 1384266010 252674 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.178.250 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, is "Lip-Sie" the correct way to shorten "Lipiec-Sierpien" (Polish for July-August) < 1384266703 281990 :shikhin__!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1384266855 363239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. apparently monads were there even in Sweden a long time ago. they celebrated them in the calendar! < 1384266893 170535 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Vintermånad → November) < 1384267910 391335 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384267989 817239 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384268071 182765 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1384268956 715548 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384269132 75884 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384269158 755856 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384269182 187242 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384269219 826426 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384269242 161711 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384269555 902885 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384269659 835944 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384270286 685054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Winter month" is kind of uninspired. (Then again, our current word for June is "summer month", and September is "autumn month".) < 1384270340 476240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, September is a bit more like "autumnal month", but still.) < 1384270361 904596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Syyskuu", not "syksykuu".) < 1384270412 846237 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384270413 41670 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384270568 84030 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384270867 886386 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384271285 146281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1384271380 406584 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384271404 850180 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and then you have the likes of google translate who go from fr:automne into fi:pudota. < 1384271532 129869 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384271697 476070 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384271735 188910 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384271735 345179 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384271935 924781 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384271967 709824 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384272239 374800 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1384272285 287358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Wonder if it goes via en:fall or what. < 1384272310 427749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sounds like a reasonable assumption.) < 1384272667 768890 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384272754 74010 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1384272977 820282 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384272996 299518 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384273083 420674 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1384273103 731940 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, djinns and gargoyles and ants! oh my!) < 1384273892 700412 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384273932 185595 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384274292 374191 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384274326 302166 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384274614 401710 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384274848 306534 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384275174 748488 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384275175 153191 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384275797 33714 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384275961 879008 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384276635 850344 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1384276744 320204 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1384276784 822452 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1384276951 969994 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOUBLE DOUBLE TOIL AND TROUBLE < 1384276957 561808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIRE BURN AND CAULDRON BOILY < 1384277029 968800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*VERY IMPORTANT: The source files ( .tex, .doc, .eps, .ps, .bib, .db, .tif, .jpeg, ...) may be uploaded as a single .rar archived file. Please do not attempt to upload files with extensions .shs, .exe, .com, .vbs, .zip as they are restricted file types." < 1384277035 568678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure this makes some kind of sense. < 1384277045 382007 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384277052 779326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people do that -_- < 1384277147 308611 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1384277169 128621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an IEEE paper submission system thingie, for context. < 1384277205 267725 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it...doesn't make sense to me? < 1384277221 699718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess .rar files are just safer than .zips? Somehow. < 1384277238 388975 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYONE KNOWS THAT ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT EXECUTABLES IN A RAR < 1384277267 504301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletin/ms04-034 oh no! < 1384277317 344008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess it's true that there are more .zip holes in the world. < 1384277341 475024 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384277347 688207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, .rar files smell of pirated software. < 1384277365 65177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they could settle on accepting .7z instead. < 1384277451 996106 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not a .tar.gz? < 1384277461 34888 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip is pretty universal.. < 1384277491 665909 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they probably use a lot of windows < 1384277503 271005 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why else even think about .com and .vbs < 1384277516 381124 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well, .exe. < 1384277548 667095 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but, gzip is used everywhere. It's the most common form of compression for HTTP < 1384277580 541407 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure modern win systems can handle gzip natively yeah? < 1384277599 2596 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't use an Windows system (except at work), so I wouldn't have a clue < 1384277615 331619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :.zip.gz. < 1384277639 324658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1384277658 485812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferrably with the .zip half done in the "store only" compression mode. < 1384277670 314015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To approximate tar.) < 1384277681 149060 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1384277695 94315 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mother once asked me "if I keep zipping it, can I fit it on my floppy disk?", referring to her music collection < 1384277715 523167 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1384277718 474809 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :floppy disks < 1384277723 449765 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1384277725 391093 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip disks < 1384277731 567050 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1384277737 116098 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I liked zip disks < 1384277739 8050 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zip atracs < 1384277841 507688 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a Finnish company advertising their repeated compression that could perform miracles. < 1384278018 63492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were doing some completely unrelated software development work, and their in-house superstar programmer just happened to invent this impossibly good compression method as a by-product. < 1384278034 555789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never managed to figure out whether the firm's CEO was dishonest or just honestly deluded. < 1384278046 812096 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384278217 195455 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember something like that < 1384278228 110600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays he seems to be doing "Drupal, Concrete5, eZ publish, jQuery, underscore, PhoneGap etc." at some other company. < 1384278251 484703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems like compression is becoming something end users no longer have to worry about < 1384278258 117720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cloud drives and all that < 1384278314 140223 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and quintopia recites incantations. < 1384278317 821914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a shame. (I have fond memories of DBLSPACEing a win3.1 system disk, leading to it no longer start up.) < 1384278762 945281 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wraps a box to mail at Canada by fastplane. < 1384279020 174323 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“at”? “fastplane”? are you sure that you aren't mailing that by ICBM? < 1384279052 992395 :Koen_!~Koen@mar75-2-81-57-225-162.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: The struct held his beloved integer in his strong, protecting arms, his eyes like sapphire orbs staring into her own. "W-will you... Will you union me?" < 1384279083 709426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how does one protect oneself from incoming missiles? < 1384279083 932320 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do what's interesting to me. i'm so very, very nice. how do you mean that it's not even funny < 1384279103 973805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ... you are disquieting. < 1384279104 169156 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you don't need it for? < 1384279130 941176 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I need it for my corporeal integrity. I know I'm being selfish, but that's something I like to possess and affirm. < 1384279131 309452 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: anna sun digikamera mulle synttrilahjaks? :p i like pianos. and the japanese page was created by me actually, we could < 1384279162 677036 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm a pianist, and I still need to learn more Japanese if you want me to edit your page. < 1384279162 835176 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the stack should be fast enough for me < 1384279183 629470 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm also a human, if you didn't notice yet. that means no fast stacks. < 1384279435 959486 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they're talking about their internal stack < 1384279443 452129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you, fungot? < 1384279443 673442 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: or the labels will fnord decide to make a minion/ sarahbot loop, using a function? < 1384279810 729422 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fi4.eu.apcdn.com/full/110606.jpg < 1384279894 214541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html is better. and doesn't treat autism unfortunately < 1384280138 211882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Again with the spontaneous Finnish. < 1384280138 451849 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm asking for alternative fnord compilers. do you just not want to sit down with it. < 1384280178 580291 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I admit to having compiled kernels in my youth. I still get pangs and urges, but I now believe in the Way of the Precompiled Binary. < 1384280222 69668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: careful. flashbacks can come on suddenly and unexpectedly. < 1384280260 804058 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I know. I synced my ABS this morning. the feeling of bliss and détachement I got seeing all those nice packages I could compile... < 1384280276 380412 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bad would result from me compiling just one little package, eh? < 1384280298 201600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :none. < 1384280354 979102 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't uninstall libacl when coreutils are using it :) (that's about the worst I did, back when I was using Gentoo. I still compile the occasional kernel though, and a ton of Haskell stuff.) < 1384280390 96612 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should have expected Arch/Gentoo users here < 1384280416 123940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch has binary packages :) < 1384280417 90506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once rm -rfed pacman's cache. a very, very stupid move. < 1384280448 537883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: have I asked you the The Question yet? < 1384280455 435401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1384280455 970262 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I know it does :P < 1384280466 306316 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: was that it? < 1384280483 434085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 is the answer, I'm curious about the question now ;-) < 1384280505 442531 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*goes back to preparing slides* < 1384280533 289198 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the question, it's the The Question. very different. < 1384280542 753040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1384280549 297364 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what are you sliding? < 1384280564 578132 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1384280582 810709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A talk on something unpublished I'm doing with tree automata. < 1384280608 904744 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :working in academia? < 1384280634 873419 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I can't give you both at once < 1384280656 564240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. <-- old and grumpy phd student < 1384280749 79223 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I forgot to set a timer, when is my food done? < 1384280757 407317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: a guesstimate will do. I know about Heisenberg and Nyquist and other approximathematicians. < 1384280761 831256 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: eh? < 1384280777 117850 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: eh! < 1384280809 774404 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: USPS doesn't provide ICBM service anymore. no one could afford the $10,000,000 price for a small box < 1384280821 71230 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives a comfy sleeping bag (with fungot patterns) to int-e so that he can rest at his desk < 1384280821 252063 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the problem we were talking about the fnord < 1384280835 291534 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily didn't even ask for velocity... < 1384280835 886665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be some kind of an #esoteric grumpy PhD student club. < 1384280846 788329 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I suppose he didn't < 1384280848 322595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Gotta be careful of that uncertainty principle. < 1384280855 792506 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what are you cooking/heating/simmering/[REDACTED]ing? < 1384280872 632367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: [REDACTED] < 1384280900 550225 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: tabarn[EXPUNGED]. I was naïvely hoping that it wouldn't be so. < 1384280962 685616 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just give it two minutes before it gets eaten < 1384280999 720378 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:4434:1c52:873b:b444 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384281059 857596 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i have an idea for an experiment < 1384281068 34177 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384281101 30081 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wonder if i can get a letter delivered to you without using the post, just relying on the kindness of strangers to move it closer to its destination < 1384281178 86305 :dessos!~dessos@c-174-60-176-249.hsd1.pa.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1384281205 973503 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: actually a band I just saw in concert is doing that with a flag < 1384281237 3053 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're having fans and friends of fans move the flag from show to show by meeting in person < 1384281291 440891 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: that sounds a lot easier. people will go out of their way to do something for a band they like. < 1384281297 362223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they aren't really strangers < 1384281302 780906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all have something in common < 1384281330 270614 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true < 1384281348 17901 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also walk up until my apartment. google says it'll only take 380 hours. < 1384281367 755703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1384281458 3356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval 380 / 24 < 1384281458 749602 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15.833333333333334 < 1384281464 81311 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/google-walk.png < 1384281489 593967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This route may be missing sidewalks or pedestrian paths." < 1384281517 446789 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, possibly. < 1384281553 321934 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little over a month to walk to boily < 1384281562 594632 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems unreasonably quick < 1384281615 787289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a small world after all. < 1384281624 415447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1384281624 989997 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 121800Z 26015G26KT 15SM -SHSN OVC036 M01/M08 A3011 RMK SC8 SLP198 < 1384281631 566010 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but unfortunately, i couldn't do it for at least a month < 1384281632 343892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a cold world after all. < 1384281645 463921 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the -SHSN has begun! < 1384281645 715399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1384281646 272996 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 121820Z 20016KT 9999 -RA FEW006 BKN008 BKN011 07/06 Q1010 NOSIG < 1384281651 397062 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sending out a passport renewal application with this box < 1384281654 926117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not winter here. < 1384281666 898290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1384281667 448023 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 121820Z 23013KT 9999 BKN008 BKN010 08/06 Q1009 R88/29//95 BECMG BKN012 < 1384281674 761280 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tis the SHSN to be jolly! < 1384281674 917505 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. < 1384281728 631075 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: would you mind parsing the metar line for us poor folk who don't know all the codes? < 1384281732 543331 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: did you just make that horrible pun? < 1384281760 422899 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the process is still very much manual. which one do you want to be decoded? < 1384281764 982507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KPDK < 1384281765 481314 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KPDK 121753Z 31020G26KT 9SM FEW041 14/05 A3018 RMK AO2 PK WND 31026/1752 SLP223 T01390050 10167 20028 50000 < 1384281789 640012 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia: you are aware you can incorporate new metar parsing code that has been ALREADY WRITTEN from github right? < 1384281850 653888 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>... <_<... ¬_¬'... v_v;... < 1384281859 503107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KLZU < 1384281859 773278 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KLZU 121745Z 28010G18KT 10SM CLR 17/01 A3012 RMK ATIS K; RWY 25 LL < 1384281917 219333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Location: KLZU < 1384281917 375754 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Day of month: 12 < 1384281917 375917 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time: 17:45 UTC < 1384281917 376019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wind: True direction = 280 degrees, Speed: 10 knots, with Gusts of maximum speed 18 knots < 1384281920 173851 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Visibility: 10 Statute Miles < 1384281922 769782 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Temperature: 17 degrees Celsius < 1384281925 279104 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dewpoint: 01 degrees Celsius < 1384281925 968995 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :QNH: 30.12 inHg < 1384281975 346992 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384282026 747055 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the units are all mixed up. why would you measure temperature in Celsius but pressure in inHg? < 1384282028 764339 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it's the QNH? I always figured Axxxx was the QFE. < 1384282045 237965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because it is so. the SLPxxx group is in hPa, too. < 1384282074 744879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this decoder should have like a selector for units and do conversions < 1384282255 968074 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:4434:1c52:873b:b444 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384282382 756112 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7930:b46:a3d8:a352 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384282384 394415 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384282790 844221 :nathnath!~fransingo@cpc36-brad20-2-0-cust431.17-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1384282893 116982 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome nathnath < 1384282896 605485 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09nathnath: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1384282921 187999 :nathnath!~fransingo@cpc36-brad20-2-0-cust431.17-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankyou . Hi all < 1384282980 677120 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch NICK :mroman_ < 1384284174 104388 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384284209 329411 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384284246 90193 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384284246 246583 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384284433 343850 :Slereah_!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384284472 737617 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384284958 301159 :Oj742!irc2gowebc@host-224-47.pubnet.pdx.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384285046 737473 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384286838 402154 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters and swears and fevers and is not happy < 1384286841 682119 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~yi < 1384286842 15687 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your divination: "Brightness Hiding" to "Pervading" < 1384287164 961406 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384287171 429808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION writes a postcard for boily to happy him < 1384287193 6864 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1384287404 184021 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, any Dutch and/or Flemish speakers here? < 1384287412 613546 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Koen_ where have you disappeared? < 1384287412 769986 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1384287427 709833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know where you can find some of those < 1384287468 946234 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on this network, i'm pretty sure l-b is dutch and The_Cat is belgian so.. < 1384287674 105189 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384287691 187137 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanello. < 1384287730 554146 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hi < 1384287749 416552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semantics. I told Scribblenauts to make a "great drummer", and it made a ridiculously big one. < 1384287749 866497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: iirc, you are of a belgianic persuasion? < 1384287754 122559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: also, hi! < 1384287755 424408 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a belgian dutch-speaker! i hear there is great request for us < 1384287811 650247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: uhm... well, you see... there's that frivolous comment on reddit, and I was wondering if that guy was saying the Truth or he was «en train de nous péter de la broue». < 1384287814 354341 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/1qgwc7/to_all_who_havent_yet_read_mark_twains/ < 1384287864 945917 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :-) < 1384287882 725895 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I helped make a tower out of spaghetti and jelly babies < 1384287898 458881 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I have noticed you can solve amazingly many problems with an infant. Someone’s hungry? Feed him an infant. Etc. < 1384287908 421815 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384287915 784587 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hottentottententententoonstelling is quite famous as a jokey long word, around here! < 1384287941 792325 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the jellies were the for the spaghetti to be stuck into, right? < 1384287946 304388 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/the/there/ < 1384287962 373719 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1384287974 100489 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our team won :) < 1384287978 50232 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd heard Rabarberbararabierenbarbarenbaardenbarbier and that one is relatively easy for me to read < 1384287991 91502 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hermafrodietestestestestestafette" requires some imagination... < 1384287993 832052 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineering for the win! < 1384288008 422402 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :102cm in 10 minutes < 1384288086 12351 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the last two are spelled wrong < 1384288105 540517 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't even know how to begin to lex that < 1384288132 589201 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be verververververfverversing i think? < 1384288148 571348 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i'm missing a "ver-" < 1384288161 710575 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is terrified by nooodl. < 1384288242 734143 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme break this down. "verven" is "to paint". one who paints is a "verver". one who paints far ("ver") is a "ververver". < 1384288270 302010 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which language is this? < 1384288276 885638 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vers" means "fresh." a refreshment is a "verversing". hi this is dutch < 1384288297 573008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yes, it seems to be rather... flexible. There was an orphan needing something to calm down, and feeding her sedatives worked like a charm. < 1384288300 797130 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you meant rhabarberbarbarabarbarbarenbartbarbierbierbar? < 1384288340 310319 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :a "paint refreshment" (verf + verversing) would be a "verfverversing", not a "*ververversing", which i think is where the poster messed up? < 1384288403 92777 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I hope you're talking about Dwarf Fortress or something similar? < 1384288448 863829 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384288466 189378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Scribblenauts. < 1384288475 835292 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know where "wrong" comes from but i think it's a loose translation of what the "ver-" prefix means for some verbs < 1384288524 885596 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as "vergissen", to be mistaken, from "ver-" (wrong) + "gissen" (guess) < 1384288594 285974 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: creepy. < 1384288700 519685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Quit: enable TupleSections < 1384288790 313032 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, you once again killed lambdabot. < 1384288831 223001 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be back in a moment < 1384288841 546184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just takes ages to rejoin all the channels it's on < 1384288852 816611 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in any case, *I* killed it :) < 1384288860 835789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1384288873 336426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? are you Gregor? < 1384288887 958830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm hosting it. < 1384288895 571541 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people think I have any connection to lambdabot >_< < 1384288897 669264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And who's Gregor ;-) < 1384288923 396379 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Functional languages are for losers lul pwn < 1384288924 925443 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functional languages are for losers lul pwn < 1384288936 975917 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you are renouned for your secret and undetectable DDOS attacks < 1384288944 382593 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*renowned < 1384288955 23293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1384289012 34133 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'dayregor < 1384289073 782804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Gregor is kinda like elliott. they have authority over the chännel. hth. < 1384289086 725521 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384289095 656142 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have any authority over the channel either *_* < 1384289112 560160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you heard it folks < 1384289117 822336 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor says he has no authority < 1384289124 184843 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what gregor says goes < 1384289127 38803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I hoped that the smiley would help to avoid such comments. < 1384289137 783509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you better not give him any respect < 1384289222 957637 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I'm enrhumé. comments and smileys may not be understood. < 1384289256 581082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that word < 1384289260 116340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Yeah, I just gave a cannibal an infant to eat. < 1384289296 315426 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: with a cold. < 1384289486 902131 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Also I put a bug into a pizza. "That pizza looks delicious!" < 1384289506 87548 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now I want to play this game < 1384289522 486743 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1384289545 729926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: It's in the latest Humble Bundle, if you're interested. < 1384289572 369620 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/GX0F3AHU264 < 1384289590 788897 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scribblenauts: Place someone who knows how to cook in the kitchen! < 1384289618 122906 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1384289625 518799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I also just made a phoenix out of fire, a chicken, and a phoenix. < 1384289630 195 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1384289633 487044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last is a good source for magical power! < 1384289647 848454 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, does it work with "man"? < 1384289665 205253 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Yes, but let’s not mention it, that makes it less funny. < 1384289732 810493 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it work with "chocolatier"? < 1384289739 675182 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or however you spell that < 1384289802 184547 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scribblenauts apparently knows the word, so it should work. http://scribblenauts.wikia.com/wiki/Chocolatier < 1384289949 95161 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings «Un chocolat, deux chocolats, trois chocolats, quatre chocolats ♪» < 1384290311 718084 :Oj742!irc2gowebc@host-224-47.pubnet.pdx.edu QUIT :Quit: irc2go < 1384290511 930305 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does the latest HB include Linux games? I can't look at it while at work < 1384290521 159317 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384290521 315994 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1384290521 316128 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384290564 321800 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: Sadly, no. It's one of these "not-so-indie" bundles. < 1384290639 634514 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384290653 887380 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384290654 43730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: (It's a WB Games bundle, containing Scribblenauts Unlimited, the two Batman: Arkham Whatever games, and two of something called F.E.A.R., as well as the LOTR: War in the North game.) < 1384290672 290823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Steam-only. < 1384290694 131769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Oh, and Scribblenauts is on the "pay more than the average" side too.) < 1384290724 326748 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scribblenauts works perfectly in Wine. < 1384290739 301791 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, the Batman games apparently don’t, so i didn’t buy the bundle. < 1384290744 459178 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.113.178.250 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332] < 1384290744 615446 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have Scribblenauts. < 1384290762 895054 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the first scribblenauts game, not any of the sequels though < 1384290786 178812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly bought it for Scribbels. I don't have any aspirations of Batmanity. < 1384290821 940709 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guns of Icarus Online and Dwarf Fortress are my games atm < 1384290835 967963 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was disappointed with the description of the newest Scribblenauts game. It’s a battle game now. < 1384290866 121432 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven’t tried it, though. Perhaps it doesn’t suck. < 1384291094 572216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1384291140 210154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : ion: Yeah, I just gave a cannibal an infant to eat. <--- scribblenauts against humanity? < 1384291377 361866 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disappointing.. I don't use Wine. Oh well, I'm not bored with Kerbal Space Program just yet. < 1384291398 105394 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384291448 507797 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384291467 877812 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-28-79.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384291592 487275 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1384291619 891755 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384291657 372972 :Slereah!x@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384291694 888104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: the return of the bride of the children of the mutant chicken II: electric boogaloo < 1384291705 141306 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384291923 925476 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384292065 117432 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh. < 1384292086 405728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1384292200 395325 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1384292354 212728 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, shachaf. Sachaf. < 1384292448 438061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :psion < 1384292461 775123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hichaf < 1384292467 726059 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hogan < 1384292483 892144 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ψon < 1384292509 522752 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384293193 331167 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384293252 548006 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ψder < 1384293662 620472 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1384293675 712321 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384294260 124669 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want to hear an Around The World/Around The World Red Hot Chilli Peppers/Daft Punk mashup < 1384294354 951804 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the Daft Punk song has the better lyrics) < 1384294428 31442 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :daft punk has lyrics? < 1384294464 679357 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i looked it up on a lyrics site and it rules < 1384294514 970821 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1384294515 377574 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1384294561 702227 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384294565 973498 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384294578 547583 :Lymia!~moe@tccd250-2.tccd.edu QUIT :Changing host < 1384294578 547730 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan JOIN :#esoteric < 1384294681 913713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you written any just intonation chiptune music? It seems suitable for such thing. < 1384294785 928043 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :matlab profiler claims 54.862 of the 55.404 second runtime was spent in "java.util.concurren.LinkedBlockingQueue". mildly skeptical here < 1384294788 872061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I have done so in Famicom Hangman, and instead of using A=440Hz, adjusted the tuning so that the notes would have the exact pitch I wanted and don't have to be detuned.) < 1384295037 369979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :java and matlab: two great tastes that taste great together < 1384295042 243649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how does that even work < 1384295049 414087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: how goes < 1384295051 475128 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's a mondegreen that completely changes the meaning of the song < 1384295064 463045 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :iunno. you can call out to java and stuff. < 1384295081 381179 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this means is that the profiler has no goddamn clue what to do with parallel code, which is unsurprising < 1384295094 873438 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Touch by Daft Punk, "If love is the answer you're home." => "If love is the answer you're wrong." < 1384295221 714500 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1384295246 146098 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns it from slightly regretful to really really bitter < 1384295263 346389 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, one run calls this not-built-in function one and a half million times < 1384295273 321523 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :profiling is fun. < 1384295278 456344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuilt-in function < 1384295318 776321 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1384295502 309464 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thing is so fancy, it highlights lines hat took up more time in a deeper shade of red < 1384295845 288000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1384295869 678961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pro files < 1384295984 300983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kmc < 1384295996 725124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :goes as expected < 1384296026 445512 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i love profilers < 1384296028 316891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are so fancy < 1384296043 46924 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1384296051 391639 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer filers < 1384296258 592890 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you should teach Taneb about categories < 1384296298 731434 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are like chili con carne < 1384296322 180479 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semigroupoids are like the vegetarian version < 1384296347 215709 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1384296348 952243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :h8r < 1384296354 716860 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't con carne mean "with meat" < 1384296361 498744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384296370 790432 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, vegetarian chili con carne is... just chili < 1384296380 488664 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly chili con quorn < 1384296391 515427 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so of course you can also think of that category as one where the objects are R^n and the arrows are linear functions < 1384296417 328863 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "chili sin carne", ı think. < 1384296433 92623 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :con textured soy protein or something < 1384296472 296467 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, I don't think you can, in the case of non-square matrices < 1384296502 553028 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384296564 792576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is Penrose tensor diagrams, which can be applicable to matrices, although I think they can be applicable to tensor categories too (which features of the diagram are available depends on what features the category has) < 1384296592 269580 :nooodl!~nooodl@143.161-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you dropped one of these --> . < 1384296612 318496 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I noticed that matrix multiplication formed a category when one of my lecturers demonstrated that set relations can be defined in terms of them) < 1384296616 419112 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Why not? < 1384296628 960838 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: A linear function : R^n -> R^m. < 1384296656 391829 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, maybe I'm just insufficiently familiar with linear functions < 1384296698 820716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also notice that matrix multiplication forms a category, but not for that reason. < 1384296759 360598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: A linear function between two vector spaces is a function f such that f(x + y) = f(x) + f(y); f(rx) = r*f(x) < 1384296767 275749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where x and y are vectors and r is a scalar. < 1384296815 254556 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can generally represent them as matrices. < 1384296848 539005 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1384296871 863927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed because of Penrose diagrammatic tensor notation. Do you know about Penrose diagrammatic tensor notation? < 1384296881 557839 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not! < 1384296881 868190 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1384296886 364019 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe I do. < 1384296899 396809 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There is a Wikipedia article, in case you do not know.) < 1384296914 660805 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like string diagrams. < 1384297018 688335 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think when the entries of the matrices are in the two-element boolean algebra this category is identical to Rel < 1384297023 54215 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1384297043 616162 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1384297071 311716 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, matrix multiplication is defined when the things in the matrix are a semiring < 1384297109 735623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Yes I noticed that it is when they are a semiring. (I did not notice if it is identical to Rel, though) < 1384297123 944794 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1384297137 235952 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{F, T}, + = ∨, * = ∧ 0 = F, 1 = T forms a semiring < 1384297165 598151 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes I know that too. < 1384297168 420718 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1384297198 739755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scalar of a vector space has to be a field < 1384297234 566014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you want it to be only a ring then you can talk about modules instead of vector spaces < 1384297250 640182 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can just yes that < 1384297271 84679 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about when you're talking about the module over a ring D of differential operators < 1384297272 278363 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know a Z-module is the same thing as an abelian group < 1384297280 686848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reading that now < 1384297288 206026 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have to eat breakfast instead of understanding it < 1384297290 73217 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone told me that one week ago < 1384297290 420136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttyl < 1384297299 370250 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: whoa, dude, that's some serious inventioning going on right here < 1384297301 391702 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? d-module < 1384297302 930750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i will have chile con carne < 1384297303 592016 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-modules are just modules over the ring of differential operators. Taneb invented them. < 1384297334 63986 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: chile is p. far from korea < 1384297367 727128 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the antipode of Formosa, Republic of China is Formosa, Argentina < 1384297383 432210 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Penrose notation as annoying as Einstein's < 1384297394 241277 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are antipodes related to octopodes < 1384297395 674214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is Einstein's? < 1384297413 32355 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, when the matrix is filled with these {F, T} (rather than ℝ), I think this category is equivalent to Rel < 1384297421 883078 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: einstein summation notation i mean < 1384297446 455895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I am not aware of such notation. < 1384297490 435762 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a wikipedia article < 1384297494 46679 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1384297502 679996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's the notation where you just don't write the sigma, right < 1384297509 307467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you just gotta know it's there < 1384297531 213855 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1384297537 11735 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst imo < 1384297541 906425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo why not < 1384297547 2868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well drop the expression too < 1384297558 259674 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"look fuck you, i'm Einstein" < 1384297576 291197 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Bike < 1384297585 20866 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1384297676 175775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1384297847 151699 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1384298211 85960 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0/20131025151332] < 1384298213 815994 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpghrpqujpzrgqti QUIT : < 1384298573 964161 :Lymia!~moe@inportb/loli/cirno-chan QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384299181 952234 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.72.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1384299276 307561 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1384299313 732870 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-40-136.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1384299313 889221 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1384300104 453694 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :matlab's help cites "Nineteen Dubious Ways to Compute the Exponential of a Matrix" < 1384300157 289501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1384300172 995326 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric