00:00:33 After an incident a couple of weeks ago <-- ic, *opens caffeinated soft drink* 00:01:19 this + the pain killers better remove my headache. 00:02:35 * oerjan imagines Taneb running frantically around on a caffeine high 00:04:02 -!- prooftechnique has joined. 00:05:10 oerjan, it was more that I was visibly shaking and felt like my entire digestive system was trying to go on holiday 00:05:25 oh i felt that way yesterday 00:05:38 I am typing the Dungeons&Dragons game recording; not finished yet but will be soon, hopefully. 00:05:39 then i ate some food and it went away 00:05:42 And then I stopped visibly shakin 00:05:43 g 00:05:51 Taneb: ok i know that second part. if i take more than about two cups of coffeee. 00:05:56 And couldn't stop smiling and giggling 00:06:16 And I couldn't feel my hands 00:06:25 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:06:33 how f much did you drink 00:06:51 Two pints, on an empty stomach 00:07:00 `frink 2 pints -> l 00:07:10 473176473/500000000 (exactly 0.946352946) 00:07:12 2 pints of coffee? 00:07:13 I managed to get an extra 300 XP for an idea I had about what to do next, just at the end of the session, and this was just enough to advance to 27 ECL (20 HD), so maybe these two new spells might help a bit. 00:07:16 olsner, of cola 00:07:32 was it sugary as well, i expect that doesn't help 00:07:37 hmm, that's only like half a 2l bottle 00:07:39 -!- Sgeo has joined. 00:07:40 i do think, writing java makes me urinate more 00:07:54 oerjan, yeah, it was coca cola 00:08:01 Very sugar, much caffeine 00:08:33 * oerjan drinks coca cola zero 00:09:01 I drink coke zero now when I haven't eaten much 00:09:56 myname: fascinating! 00:10:14 oerjan: indeed 00:10:38 it may be SOAP, though 00:11:08 oerjan: did you logread the whole space nonsense from last night 00:11:25 shachaf: i quite firmly skipped most of it. 00:11:38 oerjan: h8r 00:11:50 imo read it and gimme your insights 00:12:00 was that the thing about infinite velocity black holes and whatnot? 00:12:02 my concentration would never last through all of that these days. 00:12:22 It's always disappointing when someone cites the laws of form seriously. 00:12:23 olsner: no, it was chu spaces and category theory and adjunction and a horrible mess 00:12:30 *adjunctions 00:13:38 i've never read the laws of form, but i vaguely recall some claim it's just an encoding of propositional logic or thereabouts. 00:13:59 yes it is 00:14:13 but people cite it for the metaphysics 00:14:14 Hang on, I've got a vague feeling I may have triggered this discussion 00:14:19 nope 00:14:30 Oh thank god 00:14:31 unless you mean chu spaces 00:14:40 That's what I meant 00:14:46 oh. 00:14:46 ok then yes 00:15:27 OK, I sincerely apologize 00:15:58 Taneb: you know, don't start going all Sgeo on worrying about what you're doing tdnh 00:16:34 oerjan, weren't you banned from variants of "hth"? 00:16:44 Also I don't know what you mean by tdnh 00:16:45 yes, but i have cheating methods 00:16:49 ` 00:16:51 /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found 00:16:53 oops :P 00:16:58 `? tdnh 00:17:01 tdnh does not help 00:17:13 `? hth 00:17:13 (that was me forgetting to use it) 00:17:15 hth is help received from a hairy toe. It is not at all hambiguitous. 00:17:38 that explains it finally 00:17:54 Taneb: i wasn't banned, elliott wrote a censoring script. 00:19:18 I could do with an ice cream 00:19:35 I wonder if a) the petrol station next door is open and b) sells ice cream 00:19:49 What kind of ice cream did you want? 00:19:51 hm i was going to complain to Gregor that the logs broke the windows zooming shortcut, but then i realized i'd been pressing the neutralize zooming shortcut instead 00:20:01 zzo38, vanilla, preferably 00:20:07 (also that he'd just laugh evilly at me) 00:20:43 why did tunes.org choose to log esoteric? 00:21:06 i dunno, it happened before i got here 00:21:12 fizzie might know? 00:21:25 Taneb: why not tar? 00:21:53 olsner, I am not a huge fan of tar flavoured ice cream 00:22:19 miksi ei tar 00:22:31 i'm suspicious on that last word, google translate 00:22:40 *of 00:23:44 * oerjan just realizes that fizzie might be the only active one here who's been here longer than him... 00:23:55 oh wait 00:24:00 Gregor, surely 00:26:40 Right, I'm seeing if the petrol station's shop is open 00:26:52 good luck on your quest 00:27:27 -!- yorick has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:28:13 `quote petrol 00:28:15 345) what would you ever need petrol for newsflash: it doesn't actually taste that good \ 346) [on petrol] oklofok: it's actually poisonous, so I advise against drinking it ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. 00:28:37 `quote gasoline 00:28:39 No output. 00:29:02 ais523 was on petrol? 00:29:11 #drugz 00:30:08 kmc: you should swat shachaf, he made a drugz joke not involving you 00:30:41 or he could if he weren't hopelessly idle 00:31:41 he's in korea and/or japan right now 00:32:05 @tell ais523 based on comments he made in #esoteric, he used to be with some if he disliked <-- i'm too noise sensitive to have flatmates, period. 00:32:06 Consider it noted. 00:32:40 samsung digital city, the small autonomous state 00:33:55 Well, that ice cream was certainly ice cream 00:34:12 "Samsung Town is twinned with Disneyland Paris and Sony World (Tokyo, Japan). The "twinning" is only symbolic and has no legal significance." 00:34:22 if you say so 00:34:39 I don't think twinning has any legal significance in any case 00:35:07 i recall trondheim has a twin city in israel and also one in palestine. 00:35:38 as well as several in europe 00:36:22 wait, that's friendship city, but presumably essentially the same thing. 00:37:19 Taneb: i suppose it might not look good if samsung and sony had an antitrust case against them... 00:40:35 "The streets had been laid down, but no houses were built; merely a row of cardboard boxes housed the first few residents who had migrated east from the slums of Ashburton to enjoy a better standard of living, only to be bitterly disappointed with the estate agents who promised milk and honey but instead delivered a mosquito infested swamp. The Ashburton immigrants, while disappointed all agreed that the swamp was a major step up from their former homes." 00:40:51 `addquote my sleep schedule is not actually random, but I'm not convinced it compresses well 00:40:55 1134) my sleep schedule is not actually random, but I'm not convinced it compresses well 00:41:50 Taneb: wtf 00:42:08 oerjan, from the Wikipedia page of the suburb I lived in when I lived in Australia 00:42:48 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Waverley,_Victoria 00:44:46 monash, the ancient grounds of agora nomic 00:46:28 I could have met the founders of agora nomic!? 00:46:32 When I was 4!? 00:46:38 I've met waggie 00:47:49 me too! 00:48:14 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif). 00:48:22 Taneb: well Steve i suppose. 00:49:41 agora looks disturbingly quiet. 00:55:38 `unidecode ™" 00:55:41 [U+2122 TRADE MARK SIGN] [U+0022 QUOTATION MARK] 00:56:06 very useful, this command 00:56:48 Wolfram Language will be the last programming language we ever need™ <-- i assume because it will cause the end of the world somehow. 00:57:47 `unicode TRADE MARK SIGN 00:57:49 ™ 00:57:51 cool 00:58:04 how ™cool™ 00:59:30 alt gr+shift+8 01:00:27 ¾? 01:00:40 it's ™ here 01:05:16 -!- prooftechnique has quit. 01:06:52 compose-t-m 01:07:16 note to self: make a better compose setup 01:08:30 `unicode REGISTERED TRADE MARK SIGN 01:08:32 Unknown character. 01:08:39 soo fickle 01:08:50 `unicode REGISTERED SIGN 01:08:52 ® 01:12:52 `unicode COPYRIGHT SIGN 01:12:53 © 01:13:03 copyright ⓒ 01:14:17 shachaf™ 01:14:52 `unidecode ⓒ 01:14:54 [U+0020 SPACE] [U+24D2 CIRCLED LATIN SMALL LETTER C] 01:17:29 Ⓒ 01:19:40 `run unidecode Ⓒ #oh no, shachaf is onto me 01:19:42 [U+24B8 CIRCLED LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C] 01:20:01 `unidecode � 01:20:02 Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode 01:20:07 `run unidecode � 01:20:08 Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode 01:20:21 ...am i on that stupid encoding still 01:20:30 Phantom_Hoover....................................................................... 01:20:35 `unidecode © 01:20:37 [U+00A9 COPYRIGHT SIGN] 01:20:39 c, DUNNO 01:20:45 yes 01:20:49 fuck's sake xchat 01:20:54 `run unidecode � 01:20:56 Traceback (most recent call last): \ File "/hackenv/bin/unidecode", line 4, in \ print u" ".join("[U+{0:04X} {1}]".format(ord(c), unicodedata.name(c, "DUNNO")) for c in " ".join(sys.argv[1:]).decode("utf-8")).encode("utf-8") \ File "/opt/python27/lib/python2.7/encodings/utf_8.py", line 16, in decode \ return codecs.utf_8_decode 01:21:04 ok fuck this shit 01:23:06 -!- Taneb has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:23:29 -!- Taneb has joined. 01:29:27 i like how useless the aleph numbers are 01:32:03 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Quit: Leaving). 01:35:05 -!- ggherdov has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 01:35:28 /nick LordEnglish 01:36:33 -!- lambdabot has quit (Quit: move to better server, be right back). 01:38:18 NOOO LAMBDABOT, IT'S A TRAP! 01:41:05 -!- lambdabot has joined. 01:42:08 @botsnack 01:42:08 :) 01:42:31 @let fibs = fix ((0:) . scanl (+) 1) 01:42:32 Defined. 01:42:36 > fibs 01:42:37 [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946... 01:42:48 huh 01:42:54 someone explain 01:43:08 i know the 0:1:zipwith-way 01:43:25 > scanl (+) 0 [a,b,c] 01:43:26 [0,0 + a,0 + a + b,0 + a + b + c] 01:43:59 myname: Isn't it more fun to figure it out yourself? 01:44:51 it kinda makes sense 01:44:58 what does fix do? 01:45:22 > fix f 01:45:23 No instance for (Debug.SimpleReflect.Expr.FromExpr a0) 01:45:23 arising from a us... 01:45:31 aw. 01:45:35 @src fix 01:45:35 fix f = let x = f x in x 01:45:45 aaaah 01:45:58 Y combinator? 01:46:05 right 01:46:27 funny 01:47:38 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 25.0.1/20131112160018]). 01:47:43 > fix (expr . f) 01:47:44 f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (f (... 01:47:59 -!- CADD has joined. 01:48:17 -!- ggherdov has joined. 01:53:03 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 01:53:04 -!- CADD has quit (Quit: leaving). 01:53:19 -!- CADD has joined. 01:53:22 -!- CADD has quit (Client Quit). 01:53:49 -!- CADD has joined. 01:54:37 -!- oerjan has set topic: The channel of the chimæric hellos | The most corum, clargoint chait you could ever loofefl your slance in. | Magnus!!! | Koirammekokaan ei lennä? :( | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf | logs: http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ or http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/. 01:57:21 -!- CADD has quit (Client Quit). 01:57:38 -!- CADD has joined. 01:57:38 -!- CADD has quit (Client Quit). 01:58:24 -!- CADD has joined. 02:01:03 -!- CADD has quit (Client Quit). 02:01:36 -!- CADD has joined. 02:02:28 CADD: FIX YOUR CONNECTION 02:03:07 -!- CADD has quit (Client Quit). 02:04:05 -!- CADD has joined. 02:04:29 -!- CADD has changed nick to Guest59952. 02:04:30 oerjan: its not my connection, im fixing my .irssi 02:04:55 -!- Guest59952 has quit (Client Quit). 02:05:41 -!- CADD_ has joined. 02:05:56 -!- CADD_ has quit (Client Quit). 02:09:53 huh 02:10:01 does CADD know about /reload? 02:14:17 -!- ^v has joined. 02:24:08 -!- Taneb has quit (Quit: Leaving). 02:27:22 POSSIBLY NOT 02:27:47 pizza! 02:33:33 oerjan: norwegian pizza? 02:33:37 i hear that's good 02:33:59 OKAY 02:47:12 -!- ^v has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif). 02:53:01 -!- ^v has joined. 03:11:53 -!- trout has changed nick to constant. 03:23:49 I've got a new book for the esoteric list http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0195079515/principiacyberneA/ 03:25:20 it will change your life! 03:27:59 Kauffman's recent work translates his biological findings to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_body_problem and issues in neuroscience 03:28:27 wait, your second line makes me suspect you are being sarcastic. 03:30:03 heard enough bullshit like that in one life time thanks 03:30:24 I've actually read the book, it's interesting but not particularly meaningful 03:30:36 oh, wait, kauffman. so he's not like, insane, just... right. 03:30:56 not insane, just right, sounds like a good place to be. 03:31:45 it points out that if you make the fitness landscap complex enough, fitness doesn't really matter 03:32:11 @djinn f :: Maybe (b -> Either a b) 03:32:11 Cannot parse command 03:32:15 wat 03:32:21 @djinn Maybe (b -> Either a b) 03:32:22 f = Nothing 03:32:32 doesthiswork: like how 03:32:32 lambdabot: you're boring. 03:33:08 and that if you collect a set of more than K Boolean functions it is universal 03:33:09 oerjan: Your question is boring. 03:33:38 (by universal I mean you can construct any boolean function) 03:33:54 doesthiswork: that's technically incorrect. 03:34:04 and that is pretty much the entire 2 pound book 03:34:07 (see my beloved Post Lattice) 03:35:05 well, that reminds me i should pick up some systems biology stuff. 03:35:15 hm i wonder if it _is_ possible to have a set of infinitely many boolean functions where none can be expressed in the others. 03:35:35 hm no. 03:36:10 Kauffman wrote (January 2012) "No entailing laws, but enablement in the evolution of the biosphere," which aims to show that evolution is not law entailed, as is physics, and that, without selection, evolution enables its own future possibilities. 03:36:27 which I can't tell what the hell it means 03:36:29 because all the classes are finitely generated, and you must be able to express the generators in finitely many of them, which means you can express everything. 03:36:46 however is there really an upper bound K... 03:36:53 post lattice is cool 03:37:20 well, technically _if_ you generate everything, your set has 5 which do it. 03:37:34 *5 functions 03:39:01 which 5? 03:39:51 oh, it's on arxiv. 03:40:13 doesthiswork: for each of the 5 maximal subclasses, find a function that doesn't belong to it. 03:40:37 the same function can work for more than one, so it doesn't have to be the full 5. 03:40:37 bike: can you recommend me some systems biology books or papers? 03:40:50 ok 03:41:40 http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.2069 yeah i don't know what the hell they're on about 03:41:40 that is, find (1) a function which doesn't send all 0 to 0 (2) a function which doesn't sent all 1 to 1 (3) a function which isn't monotone (4) a function which isn't linear/affine (5) a function which isn't self-dual. 03:41:51 *send 03:42:18 doesthiswork: i've been recommended http://www.amazon.com/dp/1584886420/ 03:42:23 you will note that nand and nor don't do any of those, and so generate everything alone. 03:42:59 oerjan: thank you, now I know more than I did this morning 03:43:18 you're welcome! 03:43:52 the first one star review of that has some oter links, eheh 03:44:40 the university library has it, I'll take a look 03:45:58 oh wow, the abstract actually makes sense to me. 03:47:29 it says with physics you can predict the future at pretty well (some of the time). With biology who the hell knows 03:49:21 looking at the lattice diagram again, i cannot see any node other than the top which has 5 edges down - so it probably _is_ the case that if you have 5 functions none of which can be expressed in the others, they must generate everything. 03:50:25 although i'm not at the spot quite sure if each of the 5 classes misses a function that belongs to all of the others. 03:51:25 constant zero, constant one, identity, ... i guess and and or would let you build xor and negation 03:51:41 in which case it would simply be impossible to find 5 such functions. 03:51:41 Bike: I refuse to identify myself 03:52:54 I miss the List of Things That Don't Exist 03:52:55 :( 03:53:19 Sgeo: Your true love. 03:53:28 Bike: your list includes nothing non-monotone yet 03:53:30 wisconsin 03:53:52 so you definitely cannot build xor and negation 03:55:16 so... is that five functions that aren't complete 03:55:20 identity is assumed by default. 03:56:09 like, it's what you get if you start with a variable and don't use any functions. 03:56:33 so it's expressible without anything. 03:56:35 Sgeo: Like gruncheons and pritons? 03:56:51 aw. 03:57:23 bike: http://www.amazon.com/review/R7DHOCB2N9PYT/ref=cm_cr_dp_title/177-0981632-5731719?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0231075650&nodeID=283155&store=books 03:57:28 constant zero and constant one together take care of three of the classes, however. 03:57:47 Critics of reductionism have pointed to Kurt Goedel's 1931 "incompleteness theorem" (which shows that in any axiomatic formulation of, say, number theory there will be true theorems that cannot be established) as a contrary example, but this paradigm-shattering result has been largely ignored the scientific community, which has blithely persisted in its reductive beliefs. 03:58:12 http://english.lem.pl/home/bookshelf/how-the-word-was-saved 03:58:14 doesthiswork: time to misunderstand everything at once 03:58:24 Bike: hm i think you _may_ have detected a flaw in my argument, anyway. 03:58:50 brute force is the method of kings, oerjan 03:59:00 nolars, nightzebs, nocs, necs, nallyrakers, neotremes and nonmalrigers :'( 03:59:38 "Why are living things alive? As a theoretical biologist, Robert Rosen saw this as the most fundamental of all questions-and yet it had never been answered satisfactorily by science. " god damn it people 04:00:08 -!- CADD has joined. 04:00:13 "Since both the atom and the organism can be seen to fit that description, Rosen asserts that complex organization is a general feature not just of the biosphere on Earth-but of the universe itself." 04:00:27 -!- ^v has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 04:01:18 "One of his results is to show precisely why physics (including molecular biology) has little to say about life (and non-life)." 04:01:56 seriously jesus fucking christ unpredictability doesn't mean indeterminism 04:02:07 why are you reading this Bike 04:02:34 because i guess i'm an evil reductionist somehow 04:02:40 Bike: hm i think my argument that (5 independent functions => generate everything) holds 04:02:46 because I like to torture him :D 04:04:17 "He concluded, based on examples such as this, that phenotype cannot always be directly attributed to genotype and that the chemically active aspect of a biologically active protein relies on more than the sequence of amino acids,," and he's doing the "REVOLUTION: THING NOBODY ACTUALLY BELIEVES IS WRONG" thing that is so, so fucking irritating 04:04:33 because he(*)'s a sucker ((*) everyone) 04:04:34 this is really failing to convince me that there is anything to systems biology 04:04:48 well it's not just this guy 04:05:05 "Certain questions about Rosen's mathematical arguments were raised in a paper authored by Christopher Landauer and Kirstie L. Bellman which claimed that some of the mathematical formulations used by Rosen are problematic from a logical viewpoint. It is perhaps worth noting, however, that such issues were also raised long time ago by Bertrand Russel and Alfred North Whitehead" lol 04:05:15 Reductionism is a useful tool, but not always!!! 04:05:32 Dr. Rosen was one of those unfortunate scientists who worked on problems, that to the rest of his community were non-existent. 04:05:41 pst i'm not really a sole reductionist 04:06:04 "REVOLUTION: THING NOBODY ACTUALLY BELIEVES IS WRONG" <-- you could make that into an onion headline 04:07:44 -!- CADD_ has joined. 04:08:00 i think it just needs an "IN SCIENCE" after the REVOLUTION 04:08:37 -!- CADD has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 04:09:28 i mostly think of systems biology as being like this one mostly informal book i read tbh 04:09:41 which was about cells-as-computers, which is the opposite of this rosen guy so fuck 'im 04:10:06 But he goes on and shows how the recursion in a function can be seen as constraints between (differential) equations, which he calls "chronicles". 04:11:37 ok bike what did you read? 04:12:28 http://www.amazon.com/dp/0300167849 04:12:31 dunno if it 'counts' 04:12:34 hm i think maybe you _cannot_ have 5 boolean functions that cannot be written in terms of each other. 04:13:10 because if one is self-dual and sends all 0 to 0, it will automatically send all 1 to 1. 04:13:11 goes over gene regulatory networks and protein stoichiometry equations and shit 04:13:18 for non-scientists 04:14:51 so you cannot get a function that is in not in P_1 and yet in all the others. which means whatever function avoids P_1, avoids one of the others, and so you need at most 4 of them to avoid all the maximal classes. 04:15:14 meanwhile bike's example shows that you _can_ have 4, so this is optimal. 04:15:35 just as i planned 04:15:48 congrats 04:17:24 yay! 04:23:56 According to this paper, the Pentagon once asked if nuclear bombs can be made to explode in the past. 04:24:16 that sound right 04:24:59 possibly my favorite 'systems' stuff is in ethology though. it's not really 'systems biology' but like lorentz had this adorable machine model made of waterwheels 04:30:29 he actually built it at one point iirc 04:31:57 konrad lorenz? 04:32:23 yea 04:33:23 or edward lorenz 04:34:10 i said ethology, didn't i 04:34:51 http://www.ace.gatech.edu/experiments2/2413/lorenz/fall02/ 04:35:08 but this lorenz has waterwheels and everything 04:36:05 that looks cool, actually. 04:36:22 there's a double pendulum set up in one of the physics buildings, it's fun to fuc with 04:47:28 why is it that interesting things are also interesting to crackpots? 04:48:41 -!- nisstyre has quit (Quit: Leaving). 04:52:32 I suppose because it is interesting in general. 04:53:54 AI is interesting but the AI channel here is a wasteland 04:56:52 the ais like to keep it that way >_> <_< 05:07:05 Is that what we're calling him now? 05:09:48 `? ais523 05:09:53 Agent “Iä” Smith is an alien with a strange allergy to avian body covering, which he is trying to retroactively prevent from ever evolving. On the 3rd of March, he's lawful good. 05:10:16 shachaf: no, we have no evidence that he is plural yet 05:17:36 `? Sgeo 05:17:38 Sgeo is a language nomad. (Not to be confused with a language monad.) He invented Metaplace sex. 05:19:30 3rd of March of what year? In what timezone? 05:19:52 Of the year 0/0 05:20:16 zzo38: i have always assumed it's every year. 05:20:30 and probably british standard time. 05:20:32 and whatever timezone ais is in, probably 05:20:56 which is probably the same as UTC that time of year 05:21:33 so... what is metaplace sex? 05:22:40 Two people repeatedly fainting without clothes 05:23:33 what 05:24:30 That's how I implemented a 'sex' option in Metaplace: Caused the participants to loop the "fainting" animation 05:24:56 should i know metaplace? 05:25:13 isn't it Yet Another Second Lifey Thing 05:25:31 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaplace 05:25:40 Bike: yeah, in 2d, Flash-based 05:25:41 as long as there is no ncurses ui, i am not interested 05:25:54 It's dead now 05:26:07 It died less than a month after I invented metaplace sex 05:26:12 surprise surprise 05:26:18 lol 05:30:13 i'd love to have something like snow crashs metaverse with a terminal interfacee 05:34:27 wait so the part about Sgeo inventing metaplace sex is _true_? 05:34:51 Yes. 05:34:52 And what did ais523 invent, then? 05:35:07 zzo38: it doesn't say. 05:35:40 He invented the ability to learn multiple esolangs at once. Isn't there that news article about him knowing 25 languages? 05:35:54 define "knowing" 05:35:59 OK add that in, then. 05:36:11 can't be that hard 05:36:25 just learn any bf derivate and you are way ahead 05:36:29 No one said it was an accurate news article 05:36:34 erm, misread you 05:37:29 `run sed -i 's/sex/sex, thus killing it within a month/' wisdom/sgeo 05:37:34 No output. 05:38:08 fwiw, the part about killing it within a month isn't true, it's correlation-therefore-causation fallacy 05:38:27 It died within a month, but I didn't cause it 05:38:28 oerjan: :D 05:38:39 Sgeo: can you prove that? 05:39:20 myname: the entry was breaking #esoteric tradition with its accuracy. 05:39:43 hth 05:40:41 Sgeo: we prefer to believe. 05:41:07 `quote what sex looks like 05:41:09 313) sgeo do you actually know what sex looks like i am just checking here I think so 05:42:18 O, that is Sgeo, too. So I suppose it is related, then. 05:42:39 Yeah, elliott said that in response to me talking about metaplace sex 05:45:12 so, did you make a language about virtual sex? 05:46:19 sex can look like a lot of things 05:46:23 that's one of them 05:46:27 interestingly, the only mention of "sex" on the wiki is Taneb's userpage. 05:46:37 :D 05:46:49 maybe i should make a page only with the word sex in it 05:47:41 you make the awesomest palindromes, you don't need sex and you don't need sleep. you are a fucking superhuman :| 05:47:44 oh and you can transform into an elf 05:47:47 User:Oklopol (note: only one of these is true) 05:48:11 That palindrome sucked. 05:48:17 i think the "you don't need sex" is the true one. 05:48:34 i cannot tell whether oklopol believes it's the palindrome part, though. 05:48:36 Probably that is correct. 05:48:47 there is a great german palindrome i heard recently 05:48:51 Taneb has stated being asexual. 05:49:39 otoh maybe he's just on his way to the big breakdown. 05:50:24 ^ 05:52:06 "York student has psychic breakdown and starts fucking everything that moves, and some things that don't." you heard the headline here first. 05:52:18 wait this is britain. 05:52:28 psychic breakdown? like carrie? 05:52:30