< 1386201616 132904 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386201629 257246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: nah too lazy < 1386201655 827291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what am i paying you for < 1386201657 226539 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386201689 645142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing hth < 1386201835 195191 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386201870 103005 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386201889 77275 :ShadowNinja!~ShadowNin@unaffiliated/shadowninja JOIN :#esoteric < 1386201961 36004 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Tardis usefully implementable as an operational? < 1386201965 442944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because if I understand properly, operational's main limitation is laziness related < 1386201998 808382 :Bike!~Glossina@69.166.47.101 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386202023 353712 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, where has the Eff monad been all my life? This is why I sometimes hate Haskell: It takes too long to replace garbage (e.g. monad transformers) with the stunningly beautiful abstractions Haskellers eventually (eventually!) find < 1386202025 446586 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-213-116.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386202076 161805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: or "p. and w. and g." if you prefer <-- hm i didn't know that, although apparently "bright" is the oldest version (sorry, conspiracy theorist i also found when googling) < 1386202076 350542 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386202129 541591 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought that was a newer version < 1386202174 781039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not according to imdb < 1386202264 884971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the mention there, they changed it from "bright" to "gay" in the film because they changed the time of the scene from night to day < 1386202293 204944 :tertu!~tertu@184-97-213-116.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386202347 149534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: soon edwardk will generalize the Eff monad into a lens variant, giving us the function effing < 1386202358 218086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1386202359 64211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know what the Eff monad is < 1386202368 884279 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1s3oba/24_days_of_hackage_extensibleeffects/ < 1386202375 800424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still don't totally know how it works < 1386202421 893130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic haven't got around to reddit today yet < 1386202453 789097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at this speed i might not < 1386202661 341520 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just read the Oleg paper < 1386202717 424131 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386202775 342285 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-140.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386202787 364032 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :-Weff-c++ < 1386202948 982772 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are you going to knuth's christmas tree lecture next week < 1386203013 69751 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386203246 35625 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1386203428 212832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the US is moving its Holy See embassy into the same building complex as the Italian embassy <-- hm wp says the holy see protested previously when the uk did that. < 1386203482 187660 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/pipes-aeson-0.2.0/docs/Pipes-Aeson.html < 1386203482 944390 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1386203483 503183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of diplomatic affairs can you even have with the vatican? rescuing a tourist from your country who decided to replace fig leaves with cannabis? < 1386203509 486362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why wouldn't encode take objects/arrays to encode as its incoming data? < 1386203553 454300 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what it's doing < 1386203662 126058 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, if Pipe is just a synonym for a function taking an argument or something < 1386203700 24409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it says encode takes an Either Object Array < 1386203738 857438 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but as a normal argument to a function to create a Producer < 1386203752 386634 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you make one producer out of a single object/array and feed downstream with it < 1386203756 464974 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I understand < 1386203817 138750 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Producers are pipes with capped input < 1386203824 392884 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah :/ < 1386203883 864534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :decodeMany < 1386203911 111275 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's a combinator in pipes to turn these into less sucky things < 1386203915 955354 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is, I'd be satisfied < 1386204189 485773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell FireFly ...or however you produced the list of ignored nicks <-- i think it's a fizzie-only command. < 1386204189 674544 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386204344 198500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: dunno probably not < 1386204502 605207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++++++++. < 1386204503 12953 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1386204503 384539 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. < 1386204511 681671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: wat. < 1386204534 787026 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++ +++++ [ > +++++ +++++ > + << - ] > ++++ . + . > . < 1386204534 975710 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1386204535 179274 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1386204539 493592 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1386204546 805390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1386204576 392899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a bug in his people graphic script but he actually has a bf interpreter? < 1386204584 855705 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kr < 1386204589 953903 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ikr* < 1386204591 157137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1386204591 487033 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1386204600 344991 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice choice of command character (not!!!) < 1386204614 985205 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1386204618 595506 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asdf < 1386204626 164991 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :—.— < 1386204631 519730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1386204632 464667 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :—–- < 1386204639 414924 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can compose producers < 1386204649 622685 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, functions that take an argument and return producers < 1386204656 725723 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what? < 1386204661 943756 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, just use for < 1386204670 136345 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I think a pipe makes more sense < 1386204699 629087 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386204756 772938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i'm sure tekmo will explain at length why it's not done that way if you ask him. < 1386204839 745205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://betabeat.com/2013/09/smell-ya-later-nerds/ "that time my editor tried to get me to go on a date with a sex robot" < 1386204892 439305 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1386204900 914587 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did Tekmo make the pipes-aeson library? < 1386204904 880704 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed it was some random < 1386204909 679027 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386204945 368325 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not Tekmo I think, just the person who is the biggest contributor to the Pipes ecosystem (iirc) < 1386204970 965672 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we have to talk about pipes in here :'( < 1386204987 224714 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: do you hate pipes? < 1386205093 532071 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate everything, remember < 1386205126 843650 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf even hates hating everything < 1386205189 487851 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf also hates the player *and* the game. < 1386205280 417928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hatepipe would be a good name for a band < 1386205310 755848 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.114.102.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386205324 797979 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`log good name for a band < 1386205331 484371 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386205354 789815 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastelog name for a band < 1386205356 142210 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386205359 21317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls | shuf -n 1 < 1386205359 933533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :???? < 1386205360 427149 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead. < 1386205372 156988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUH < 1386205372 621435 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.15313 < 1386205409 385425 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gütenbørg would be a good name for a band <-- i concur < 1386205430 197180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: your endoding is showing < 1386205434 265209 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cüncur < 1386205445 205300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*c < 1386205462 489466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck the web < 1386205465 241233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how codu presents the file to me. < 1386205468 794991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :als Gregor FIX YOUR SERVER < 1386205489 835799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is an endoding when you ding yourself < 1386205552 825462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: bossibly < 1386205637 169120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote name for a band < 1386205638 691452 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1012) "would be a good name for a band when preceded by its quotation" would be a good name for a band when preceded by its quotation < 1386205678 311871 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It's not the server, it's Mercurial, and I have no idea how to make Mercurial do it right. Nor do I care enough to look into it. < 1386205731 944988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well thanks for giving us something to blame at least < 1386205736 345981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's burn an effigy < 1386205864 306110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a proxy or something < 1386205886 552237 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos < 1386205889 892197 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reverse proxy just to change the Content-type header < 1386206409 965511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily shuf is borken. <-- i think your diagnosis is wrong hth < 1386206410 190768 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386206678 547783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386207137 51130 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386207793 212844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally got around to the thing i was going to look up "Therefore, all embassies to the Holy See are located in Rome making Vatican City one of only two sovereign states, the other being Liechtenstein, with no resident embassies located within its territory." < 1386207890 187562 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-111.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386210001 866297 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386210957 681680 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386212313 549894 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1386212867 307454 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386212985 435976 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesod uses Blaze for HTML generation by default? < 1386212987 571075 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ :/ < 1386214286 21059 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386216574 10163 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217107 420833 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217336 331978 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217393 806372 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386217399 902039 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217444 164119 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386217470 766916 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217519 871214 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386217540 855896 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217663 935866 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386217690 900401 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217781 887564 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386217788 938224 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386218250 101867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does twitter think i should follow @SailorMoonFic < 1386218663 836889 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it thinks you're tuxedo mask? < 1386218839 822149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1386218905 116281 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As a soft introduction to our approach, we implement the single, < 1386218905 305497 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplest effect: obtaining a (dynamically-bound) Int value from" < 1386218911 434915 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can think of a monad simpler than Reader < 1386219001 635217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :id < 1386219059 196510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about data M a = M < 1386219065 288878 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :simpler imo < 1386219072 618162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's not an "effect" tho < 1386219098 573563 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :suppressing all computation seems like an effect to me < 1386219109 536822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there are even lazy and strict variants of that monad? < 1386219111 281458 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that like the monadic equivalent of the zero function < 1386219136 86610 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1386219309 716612 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i figured out how to get xilinx to tell me what it's synthesizing < 1386219322 804335 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais was right, half the report is "we found a multiplexor, you stupid human" < 1386220270 414703 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1386221008 726911 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-111.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386221470 475843 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386222112 359598 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386222341 986622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sweet, the manual has a full listing of the logic table for a six input lut < 1386222374 706216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :000000: INIT[0]. 000001: INIT[1] ... 111111: INIT[63]. < 1386223480 455627 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1386223503 258126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1386225087 450004 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1386225700 380070 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386227058 924585 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdjfajsdfhajklsdfhajdfhlaksjdfhasjkldfhlasjkfaksljfhalkjsdfhsakfjhlafhalksfdjhalksjdfhlaskjdfhalkjdf < 1386227064 436242 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386227114 566717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "asdjfajsdfhajklsdfhajdfhlaksjdfhasjkldfhlasjkfaksljfhalkjsdfhsakfjhlafhalksfdjhalksjdfhlaskjdfhalkjdf" < 1386227115 376149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddfffffffffffffffhhhhhhhhhhhhjjjjjjjjjjjjjjkkkkkkk... < 1386227121 711775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equivalent of gensym for Template Haskell can capture other names < 1386227126 956568 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious < 1386227159 942441 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm worryingly close to thinking that i'll be able to get this audio jack out. i am mad with power and cannot be stopped. < 1386227201 710325 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "capturing a name" mean < 1386227426 673687 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not totally sure, the example makes little sense to me < 1386227427 109901 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/package/template-haskell-2.8.0.0/docs/Language-Haskell-TH.html < 1386227431 39478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newName < 1386227469 165436 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you put a line of crap into irc because of something offending you if you don't even understand the example < 1386227564 657201 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I understand the example well enough to see it could cause pain (although also not sure about how much) < 1386227584 543529 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, not sure if normal names in Haskell are more like mkName or more like newName < 1386227588 365610 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't irc supposed to be the international repository of craps? < 1386227613 913035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, looking at it, it does seem silly, but whatever it's template haskell < 1386227653 538316 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why everyone has such a big problem just having symbols be identifiers without doing all this weird stuff < 1386227823 798486 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then i also don't know why xilinx apparently won't let me export a schematic. < 1386227849 766198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be ... polite ... if the TH API docs actually said that {} indicates what the example relates to < 1386227859 82062 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(phrasing it better than I just did ofc) < 1386228034 650260 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does, in one place < 1386228319 927379 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386228548 611988 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386228743 193736 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1386230687 584895 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvxhowjbovswjgem PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea < 1386230706 987132 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvxhowjbovswjgem PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about we create a language for finite state machine < 1386230872 796069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many of those < 1386230875 926930 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example http://www.complang.org/ragel/ < 1386230883 124895 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvxhowjbovswjgem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok... < 1386230939 32307 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks so much better than lex, jesus < 1386230956 890657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386230983 444006 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh HarfBuzz uses Ragel? cool < 1386231002 55263 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a company, a program, or a medical condition < 1386231006 251443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :HarfBuzz is a library with a stupid name that most people haven't heard of < 1386231012 464722 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvxhowjbovswjgem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make my own? < 1386231019 727916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's responsible for like, most text rendering in open source software < 1386231059 303027 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did know HarfBuzz uses Ragel, but why does it use that? Unicode bidirectional algorithm? < 1386231066 770380 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :your own what, fsm layout thingie? sure, probably educational < 1386231068 178129 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1386231308 362126 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386231353 383956 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing your own regex implementation is fun too < 1386231364 358473 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, you pretty much can't possibly make the syntax worse < 1386231382 791109 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386231386 593871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :required reading http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp2.html http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp3.html < 1386231396 448720 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386231404 891218 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386231440 386356 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1386231440 575131 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1386231441 587530 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops i didn't know there were parts two and three >_> < 1386231545 372229 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and part four. http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp4.html < 1386231558 130906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1386231560 676079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey the unicode thing is cool. < 1386231807 93556 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that article was my first exposure to the slow method for regexp matching < 1386232469 11116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bubble: Airbnb's new office has a replica of the Dr. Strangelove war room" < 1386233783 205951 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386235065 187281 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386237072 904497 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386238175 880935 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386239309 798619 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1386243159 984011 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386243796 197985 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1386243918 578005 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@sweetiebot.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386244445 98628 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Finns are such a jealous people we are jealous for Scots being the world’s most jealous people.” < 1386244574 958056 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@sweetiebot.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1386244699 53571 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386244840 605668 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1386244939 438342 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@sweetiebot.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1386247500 455411 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386247858 805573 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-61.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386247880 477000 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386248300 5569 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386248335 74917 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1386248335 265010 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1386248587 156558 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386248595 772623 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386249563 6563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/regexp1.html example is a wrong. < 1386249569 397547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also didn't know about part 4.) < 1386249634 943178 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The following sections present an implementation written in portable ANSI C." "struct State { int c; State *out; State *out1; int lastlist; };" That's not C at all. < 1386249698 61542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's missing the "struct" keyword for out/out1, and it does that same thing for all the types, and all member/variable declarations it shows.) < 1386249813 658384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The downloadable version has separate typedefs, so I guess you could argue it's only showing an excerpt. < 1386249824 141053 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1386249833 484581 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it probably has a separate typedef above < 1386250014 907305 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good typedefllä morning! < 1386250019 317186 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1386250019 509261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse said 15h 1m 10s ago: "Marble Hornets" is supposedly good, according to my SO. I haven't watched it, myself. < 1386250019 509472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse said 14h 59m 11s ago: Ignore that; I collect socks. < 1386250019 509565 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 12h 6m 49s ago: shuf is borken. <-- i think your diagnosis is wrong hth < 1386250072 415672 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell mrhmouse I won't ignore the sock collection. < 1386250072 604651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386250099 966732 :realz!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386250116 892911 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan shuf is borken. <-- i think your diagnosis is wrong hth <-- So what was it, then? < 1386250117 81666 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386250268 439197 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386250322 202675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm still not oerjan, but it was the special-casing of 'ls' in wisdom. < 1386250322 507717 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-cold < 1386250322 700451 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 12h 48m 52s ago: ...or however you produced the list of ignored nicks <-- i think it's a fizzie-only command. < 1386250349 383941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd wisdom; ls | shuf -n 1 < 1386250351 142377 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the wisdom directory contains many files named after nicks, listing it in public annoys people. Try https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf instead. < 1386250360 504793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run \? As whatever whatever whatever < 1386250362 557229 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1386250364 645814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :See above. < 1386250392 440271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1386250392 634532 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|cuttlefish|ruddy)! < 1386250392 949648 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue what you mean. What do you think, fungot? < 1386250427 784035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is a fizzie-only command, yes, though in retrospect maybe it might not need to be. Especially the query side of it.) < 1386250464 504868 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so I did remember the command name right, then < 1386250705 775609 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-61.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1386251443 796464 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386252023 412156 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1386252072 283780 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386252104 954122 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tanebventions < 1386252106 246848 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: tanebventions: not found < 1386252109 677065 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1386252111 733559 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, and Go. < 1386252117 269143 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? chu spaces < 1386252119 50751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Chu space is just a matrix. Taneb invented them, then Chu stole his invention. < 1386252158 425497 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also aaaaaaaaaaaaaah < 1386252172 584086 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get familiar with INTERCAL 72 very quickly! < 1386252486 280654 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/modules/&, Chu spaces/' wisdom/tanebventions < 1386252487 871766 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read wisdom/tanebventions: No such file or directory < 1386252507 952305 :Halite!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps JOIN :#esoteric < 1386252547 975719 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls wisdom/*vention* < 1386252549 488590 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom/tanebvention < 1386252558 990183 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/modules/&, Chu spaces/' wisdom/tanebvention < 1386252562 659780 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386252568 110933 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebvention < 1386252569 914712 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, and Go. < 1386252604 81011 :L8D!~seed@99.156.81.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386252719 430710 :L8D_!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386252724 991375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :♪ pdfnouncement ♪ I split the places into their own chapter. < 1386252725 189023 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the one with the worms and unascii characters? < 1386252725 386038 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zvxhowjbovswjgem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386252726 51054 :L8D!~seed@99.156.81.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386252729 341584 :Halite!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps NICK :Halite[tablet] < 1386252741 390124 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: aye < 1386252960 257732 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things were more interesting when you could backspace to overstrike characters < 1386253010 821649 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ȼ < 1386253094 233996 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^H\ < 1386253136 826686 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely there must be some terminal emulators that support this. < 1386253138 254728 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if a unicode codepoint for "overstrike next character on top of previous one" would make sense < 1386253169 520447 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(line printer emulator?) < 1386253240 339693 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :test: /\ < 1386253335 331582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent «/\b\\», it appears as «mMsg = "test: /\b\\"» from metasepia's logs, but it gets displayed as «/ \» in weechat. I am disappoint. < 1386253388 172421 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my?) irssi displays /, then an inverse H, then a \. < 1386253410 510997 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the inverse H is ^H, so you sent what you intended to send) < 1386253532 96483 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :  < 1386253556 998320 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: abandon all hope etc pp. < 1386253573 590513 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pp? < 1386253668 696337 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also \̸, but it's cheating. < 1386253684 516826 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :et cetera, perge, perge. and so on and so forth. (I had to look it up.) It's moderately common in German, I guess it's not used in English. < 1386253832 772001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk. tdh. ty. < 1386253875 306431 :L8D_!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386253915 760179 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh? < 1386253920 507069 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tdh < 1386253922 431084 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tdh is the past tense of a successful hth. hth. < 1386253978 319502 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. "did". tdh. < 1386254205 561687 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you speak German? what are your approximate coördinates and body weigh? < 1386254242 575488 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Austria / unknown. < 1386254305 392679 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not fond of being tossed around with catapults. What else would you want to know my weight for?) < 1386254331 542391 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :to find #esoteric's center of mass. < 1386254335 941672 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naturally. < 1386254349 362057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1386254354 559872 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask ais523 Was Underload intentionally a FALSE subset? < 1386254354 755993 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386254579 712839 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 or near-subset < 1386254579 916818 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386254675 1194 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386255288 922451 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386255376 529287 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1386255376 763964 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1386255420 228886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we live in a sad world. github doesn't highlight befunge. < 1386255457 777018 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even possible to syntax highlight funge nicely < 1386255474 714223 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as something may or may not be part of a string depending on where you are looking < 1386255481 946066 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from which direction < 1386255615 586615 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only solution is to run the code itself and see! < 1386255647 438988 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only that, but a string could start and end at the same spot < 1386255656 820200 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and code could be used both as a string and code < 1386255863 142614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one should apply stochastic highlighting. at least one character is bound to be properly highlighted. < 1386255869 872448 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anybody created an animation of what funge execution looks like? following the IP at a slow enough speed to observe, I mean < 1386255904 771703 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was that editor I used many years ago when I was on Windows. can't remember its name. < 1386255921 893799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had a very DOSsy feeling, what with white text on a blue background. < 1386255985 913472 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: http://www.bedroomlan.org/tools/befunge-93-playground < 1386256139 951429 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: was it EDIT.COM < 1386256142 279402 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Exactly what I was looking for :D Thank you! < 1386256181 44034 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could sort of have lines of execution < 1386256287 998753 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: no, a Windows program, with a toolbar and stuff and lots of blue. you could see the IP go around your program, and the stack at the bottom. < 1386256357 479368 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (")S < 1386256357 681801 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1386256364 314462 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, noncompliance < 1386256445 931070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, no known interpreter ever, not even the reference interpreter, seems to have implemented any part of this other than the rules about parentheses, and this is therefore arguably not part of the language." < 1386256481 423503 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh, ubiquitous noncompliance < 1386256502 356728 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may write a compliant interpreter just for the hell of it < 1386256508 757648 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ([{}])S( complete noncompliance )! < 1386256508 962445 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :[{}] < 1386256582 957001 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know you're talking to someone serious when they threaten to write something compliant in protest. < 1386256850 25557 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: stop complianing < 1386257007 420280 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote I may write a compliant interpreter just for the hell of it Taneb: stop complianing < 1386257011 637027 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1142) I may write a compliant interpreter just for the hell of it Taneb: stop complianing < 1386257104 696219 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Befunge-93 a strict subset of Befunge-98? < 1386257161 899730 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ♪ dıng ♪ you have an active quote! < 1386257180 755736 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what makes a quote 'active'? < 1386257190 285718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no < 1386257216 238430 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: oh? < 1386257223 50287 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for instance, whitespace inside strings in B98 always correspond to exactly one space (à la HTML) whereas in B93 it's treated literally < 1386257226 942625 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you say something. < 1386257240 64021 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't do that in the others < 1386257251 754577 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, I think I have one where I /me < 1386257254 98850 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that, and I overlooked your “Meh” uttered in response to oerjan's Standard Flyswatter.) < 1386257260 196932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair point < 1386257410 201203 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an online /// interpreter thingy? < 1386257823 408749 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"$88*+3-.@% < 1386257833 245639 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should print 93 in befunge-93 and 98 in befunge-98 < 1386257837 587483 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1386257948 489056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord % < 1386257949 808109 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :37 < 1386257955 168003 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord < 1386257956 603465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :32 < 1386257962 910965 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: subtle. < 1386258003 746605 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1386258055 224547 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"++3-.@ % < 1386258058 126227 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this one even more < 1386258096 455985 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sum $ map ord " % ") - 3 < 1386258097 485882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 98 < 1386258100 457043 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sum $ map ord " ") - 3 < 1386258101 366475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 93 < 1386258449 977256 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever < 1386258495 105079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, are we golfing "print 93/98 depending on befunge version implemented"? < 1386258512 518707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much so. < 1386258522 705090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :next step: a wumpus onëliner. < 1386258802 503479 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-085.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1386259033 182006 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the metric when golfing befunge? < 1386259056 982395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :area covered? < 1386259084 445012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"]b";;.@. < 1386259092 121645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386259100 267692 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also cute but no shorter < 1386259164 52399 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in befunge-93, ';' reverses the IP, so the stack becomes "]bb]" and ']'=93 is printed. in befunge-98 the ;; is jumped over) < 1386259215 172437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-good < 1386259215 378419 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 2h 31m 38s ago: shuf is borken. <-- i think your diagnosis is wrong hth <-- So what was it, then? < 1386259219 924539 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386259237 652618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily fizzie is an excellent doctor hth < 1386259237 859109 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386259270 885763 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386259281 551826 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Ngevd when will I ever see you agaaaaiiiiiin < 1386259281 755577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386259286 915427 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Ngevd < 1386259288 848329 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​?w:EȬ;YQn_dwމ5u|kXR[6MU“kZe$ < 1386259393 372967 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hellœrjan. < 1386259402 430952 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-orange < 1386259403 75312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259407 637203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-chicken < 1386259407 841006 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259411 816306 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-LOUD < 1386259412 21663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259415 840468 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAURGH! < 1386259419 894434 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-messages < 1386259420 101095 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259427 646010 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1386259440 337672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you only get to change two letters hth < 1386259451 102319 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-gouda < 1386259451 308426 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1386259474 15060 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386259474 671809 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: now that's just cheesy < 1386259493 807915 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-godot < 1386259494 13417 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259498 838520 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1386259505 622109 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1386259509 533706 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"loud" is the base < 1386259514 378817 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lotad < 1386259514 583695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1386259522 838401 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lorris < 1386259523 43524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259525 17491 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1386259529 690183 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles lambdabot < 1386259537 783059 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I've simply used characters-in-source-code on CGSE; that seems fair to me < 1386259563 465632 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the edit distance has to be ≤2 < 1386259570 16943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that was four letters hth < 1386259578 603829 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :edit distance, as in levenshtein? < 1386259585 465077 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes < 1386259594 842261 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-luod < 1386259595 49801 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259598 763382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-luod < 1386259598 967618 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1386259609 579542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-luody < 1386259609 780505 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1386259622 438569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap doesn't seem to be primitive < 1386259650 427828 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I see < 1386259685 449084 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, also in -98 ~ and & are specified to act as a mirror after reaching EOF, whereas nothing was specified in -93 I think < 1386259697 826441 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1386259740 446773 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm presenting a talk entitled "A Tour of Esoteric Programming Languages" in just over 3 hours. I'm making sure I'm not saying anything hideously wrong.) < 1386259820 496730 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh wow < 1386259842 224558 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it be recorded? < 1386259864 411976 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I don't think so < 1386259871 451612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1386259890 286001 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can get someone to record it on their phone < 1386259919 434425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please do < 1386260021 409536 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1386260085 734856 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your invocation of Ngevd earlier borked tmux :P < 1386260097 372322 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386260105 456650 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: then tmux is bad < 1386260136 200758 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well it's over PuTTY, so it's entirely possible that I just have PuTTY configured incorrectly < 1386260138 735955 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: also sorry < 1386260161 605638 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no problem; I'm only using tmux to view ruddy's logs < 1386260163 209471 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​then tmux is your invocation of ngevd earlier borked tmux :p hm. trying to start screen in tmux in < 1386260176 935986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: it didn't break _my_ tmux over putty hth < 1386260204 687458 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what's your remote character set? < 1386260211 381797 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 Hours? < 1386260211 851683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf-8 < 1386260212 567047 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1386260247 819349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: ok if you're doing it for ruddy's logs then you probably don't have irssi in there too < 1386260248 682604 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmmm, that's the same as mine. And your $TERM? Mine is 'screen' < 1386260251 742358 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. What do you think, fungot? < 1386260253 184148 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: it's hat half 7 < 1386260255 467533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and irssi does charset fallback < 1386260279 225299 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nope, I only use IRSSI at home :) I'm using Pidgin here. < 1386260290 547685 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What? < 1386260293 159338 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a hat? < 1386260322 425556 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`hh a hat is an at < 1386260323 884337 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: hh: not found < 1386260327 262615 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1386260362 240034 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h h? < 1386260363 554381 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open h?: No such file or directory. < 1386260371 807634 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1386260408 400387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: btw iirc tmux always uses screen as its internal $TERM < 1386260490 302413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`h echo hi < 1386260491 850040 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open echo hi: No such file or directory. < 1386260495 843177 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1386260508 558074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/h < 1386260509 963999 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl -p \ s/([aeiouy])([bcdfghjklmnpqrstvxz])/$1h$2/ig < 1386260518 1801 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1386260527 778682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's meant to be piped. < 1386260552 109512 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo' | h < 1386260553 621045 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahtee-hahtee-hahtee-hooo < 1386260566 89112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? hat < 1386260567 949863 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hat? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386260591 706840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "hatee-hatee-hatee-hooo" >wisdom/hat < 1386260595 495959 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386260616 170249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't keep you unoccupied you know < 1386260643 567604 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: done. you fiend. < 1386260644 765785 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's what I thought, too, but I rarely give thought to my $TERM :P < 1386260719 946799 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1386260720 529591 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 051616Z 00000KT 7SM -RA OVC034 03/01 A2981 RMK SC8 -RA INTMT SLP095 < 1386260721 972368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yw < 1386260726 370510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1386260726 786773 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 051620Z 13006KT 9999 FEW020 BKN063 M00/M03 Q0984 NOSIG < 1386260731 631446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1386260732 89372 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 051620Z VRB01KT 9999 FEW012 BKN047 M05/M07 Q0978 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 34003KT < 1386260733 625947 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woohoo! it's warmer here! < 1386260742 82461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BRRR* < 1386260747 314774 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ilutpdf. < 1386260759 646444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1386260765 427999 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like updating the PDF. < 1386260769 452376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :g, g < 1386260780 956193 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s, hl? < 1386260795 501985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh!! < 1386260825 247916 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how's life? < 1386260837 338708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful thx < 1386261085 538791 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :troubles with your world domination plans? < 1386261093 566974 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar essa < 1386261093 925406 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1386261097 882630 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1386261098 431178 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 051620Z 18019KT 9999 FEW040 04/01 Q0974 R01L/710169 R08/710158 R01R/710161 NOSIG < 1386261127 327055 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there's snow outside < 1386261147 46637 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess maybe not necessarily up where ESSA is < 1386261230 261605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? a < 1386261232 245001 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1386261238 547505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator < 1386261240 759794 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in catterpillar silk < 1386261259 292483 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? b < 1386261260 904045 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :b? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386261291 594319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the world keeps trying to dominate me instead! < 1386261338 609758 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm wisdom/a < 1386261342 235338 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386261371 874117 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the horror! how is your personal identity affected ? < 1386261405 343597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you removed the one which wasn't misspelled hth < 1386261432 805211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/catt/cat/' wisdom/cocoonspirator < 1386261436 633564 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386261524 571548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A is _not_ a town in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1386261529 123447 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1386261601 267941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Å is a town in Norway? < 1386261606 528772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn A is _not_ a village in Norway, unless you're the BBC and don't understand things on top of letters. < 1386261610 999471 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1386261617 448181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ok, a village then < 1386261660 876037 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85,_Moskenes < 1386261743 153936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85_(disambiguation) has plenty < 1386261775 765739 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like there's an Å in Sweden and one in Denmark too < 1386262300 487067 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn34-085.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386262320 387111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1386262322 464217 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+000F DUNNO] < 1386262565 402597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tmyk < 1386262567 87311 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmyk? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1386262631 773377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn tmyk the more overfilled your brain gets. < 1386262636 351179 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1386263138 336295 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386263200 484173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386263210 237656 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 1142 < 1386263211 974346 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1142) I may write a compliant interpreter just for the hell of it Taneb: stop complianing < 1386263302 880664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell gregor please fix the logs not to merge duplicate spaces, it's making quotes look like they're not qdbformat compliant hth < 1386263303 80314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386263430 468112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell taneb Is there an online /// interpreter thingy? <-- EgoBot has !slashes < 1386263430 674261 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1386263453 978899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes /X/World!/Hello, X < 1386263456 98920 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1386263626 180203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote meh < 1386263627 871356 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :57) * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies \ 78) I seem to think of coaxial cables as being omnipotent somehow. \ 598) Somehow I managed to read Haskell as Befunge \ 1081) my emergency contacts list somehow has my father listed in both slots, in one of them as my d < 1386263699 659130 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I have some small progress on the nega-Zeckendorf front; empirically, carries from addition and subtraction are limited to -1, 0, 1 in that case as well. I have not yet proved it, but I expect it won't be hard. < 1386263806 825019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Etc. pp. < 1386263821 454049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where a "carry" now is adding the pattern -1,+1,+1 (positive) or +1,-1,-1 (negative) at some position.) < 1386264027 330986 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I should add (no pun intended) that in my current representation, the least significant bits are currently to the left. < 1386264655 343148 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1386264784 978271 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386264862 627047 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386264889 785978 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1386265113 571688 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuns the little-endian < 1386265154 780873 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386265182 731548 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, little-endian is best endian < 1386265216 854856 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1386265243 232373 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: Queen would disagree < 1386266179 840889 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1386266470 998735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :little-endian is nasty. big-endian is dumb. middle-endian all the way! < 1386266584 69824 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't there be uhm < 1386266602 204882 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1*2*3*4 = 24 possible endiannesses? < 1386266618 812577 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 32bit values at least < 1386266621 952898 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about Lilliputians < 1386266633 11705 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: Only if you consider the bytes < 1386266635 158667 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitwise... < 1386266646 50934 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :32! is probably pretty big < 1386266675 599883 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :32! is 263130836933693530167218012160000000 < 1386266680 976934 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh ok < 1386266684 940323 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So not *that* big at all < 1386266713 41535 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you understand scale. Remember our number system is logarithmic < 1386266716 296124 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty huge < 1386266740 743132 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1386266742 223685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfshaw. I decree that number to be small. < 1386266746 994054 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :big is > 2**128 < 1386266781 481049 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python reduce(lambda a,b: a*b, range(1,33)) > 2**128 < 1386266782 289428 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386266789 824529 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2**128 is 340282366920938463463374607431768211456 < 1386266790 743981 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :!python print (reduce(lambda a,b: a*b, range(1,33)) > 2**128) < 1386266791 519084 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1386266797 911549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what do you mean small? there are seven zeroes at the end! < 1386266807 149217 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that makes it an 8 digit number) < 1386266809 968461 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :2**128 is bigger than 32! < 1386266816 768621 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Obviously < 1386266831 915300 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2**x for x > 32 is always bigger than 32 < 1386266868 663951 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: zeroes don't mean nothing. that's why they are zeroes. < 1386266886 342564 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, 32 is 2**5 < 1386266897 656615 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So any x > 5 will do < 1386266898 451020 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they mean stuff when you put them next to numbers on the right end < 1386266930 252320 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1386266955 959061 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :log(x)/log(x^2) . < 1386266993 640432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: 0.5. < 1386267087 955045 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386267173 18019 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1386267178 749112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I never learnt that car scenes in old movies are shot in a stationary car in front of a projected background < 1386267188 989183 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it as a random function < 1386267264 723505 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat/win 8 < 1386267268 115027 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gna < 1386267340 124005 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to floating point errors < 1386267388 738005 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ... wut??????? < 1386267393 143054 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apparently michael caine was young once, that's a bit unsettling < 1386267424 876103 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: happens sometimes if i try using irc via a really crappy smartphone < 1386267494 961636 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one reason to learn Chinese: you can draw the characters on the phone! < 1386267547 210330 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can draw normal letters now, too < 1386267582 203479 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :normål lettërs are borįng. < 1386267708 869944 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386267767 355346 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386267815 369485 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.94 QUIT :Client Quit < 1386267823 311087 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ńóŕḿáĺ? < 1386267834 37500 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386268428 919023 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386269345 267272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: ǹòr̀m̀àl̀. < 1386269484 65603 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathoverflow.net/questions/53122/mathematical-urban-legends/53172#53172 < 1386269708 91850 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal schmormal < 1386269964 163661 :Taneb!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1386270145 375513 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: re nega-zeckendorf, nice. can you subtract in normal zeckendorf though? < 1386270192 960486 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: in principle, yes. I don't have the code. < 1386270264 166635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: because I believe subtraction is possible but I don't know if it can be done the same way as addition < 1386270276 178245 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably can, if you do negative carries too < 1386270279 114359 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ṅȯṙṃạḷ < 1386270288 859200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: there are negative carries in addition, too < 1386270330 934588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: sort of, yes, but the digits of the intermediate result don't become negative < 1386270388 496187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'll probably work a bit on this coming weekend. For now, all I can say is that I'm convinced that the same principle works. < 1386270412 971230 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1386270416 285594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1386270546 131114 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this probably means that in principle you could implement a serial computer alu with zeckendorf or nega-zeckendorf representation instead of binary, as long as you want integers only < 1386270577 414684 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way < 1386270581 12874 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION applies a diactriticised kij klonowy onto FreeFull < 1386270593 70412 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's one more thing that I think you could do with fibonacci numbers < 1386270611 486193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know fibonacci-search (instead of binary search) of a list? Knuth describes it < 1386270652 86870 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you could do a twin-block allocator (malloc or allocation inside a file) using fibonacci-sized blocks instead of powers of two in a similar way < 1386270669 885379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be worth, because binary twin-block is much easier, but it would be funny < 1386270821 73992 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386270896 401149 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*checks* "... avoid the division by 2 ...", ok, fairly pointless nowadays :) < 1386270896 776704 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386270906 126471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: of course it is! < 1386271062 709654 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pattern was clear, but I didn't know why one would do this. The idea may still be useful for other searching problems. For example, finding the minimum of a sequence that is strictly decreasing first, and later strictly increasing, with only one change in monotonicity. (The point is that if you have a > b < c, you cannot discard any of the points yet, and with the golden ratio, you can easily add another point between a... < 1386271068 679222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...and b or b and c) < 1386271173 463447 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: oh and fibonacci numbers will be awful for satisfying modern CPU's alignment constraints :) < 1386271209 96587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, that's not the biggest problem, you can satisfy alignment by aligning afterwards < 1386271244 255914 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is /a/ problem. < 1386271268 799167 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, if you did it in a file then the blocks wouldn't be aligned to sectors on the disk < 1386271293 365794 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that it could be fun. Just not very useful. *checks channel name* not that this is relevant here. < 1386271313 696261 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1386271321 503263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. < 1386271329 45442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, while I know many cases where you could theoretically use a fibonacci version instead of a binary version, I don't know any case where the fibonacci version is more useful < 1386271338 932687 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you translate the card < 1386271339 889902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the postcard, it was typed and translated. < 1386271343 697119 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1386271351 648494 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, really, many other versions) < 1386271353 433771 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :any mistakes? < 1386271382 201928 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386271393 21196 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there were any, I canceled them when transcribing its content. < 1386271420 968755 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, I have to find a particularly obtruse language to reply you with back :D < 1386271463 154707 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"obtruse" sounds like "unimplemented" < 1386271508 956829 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386271525 380746 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i like this idea of "pen pals who could actually talk to each other on IRC any day of the week but choose to spend money on international postage instead" < 1386271651 125096 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1386272118 638950 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386272318 846489 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1386272485 235255 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a term (besides "functional") for the programming style where you avoid { mutations, creating variables, control structures } and instead express things as function calls? < 1386272545 546909 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :function-levle programming? (old skool, yo) < 1386272548 72330 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people would use "functional" for that, yeah < 1386272555 281863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe "declarative" too, depending < 1386272571 407456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, it depends what you mean by "variables" and "control structures" < 1386272628 710828 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: by "variables" I mean anything outside of function parameters, and by "control structures" I mean the constructs of loops and conditionals < 1386272649 155714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1386272659 54336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :loops and conditionals are pretty basic boring control structures ;) < 1386272684 92099 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a rant that surface recently on the intarwebs saying that “declarative” doesn't mean anythin? < 1386272691 760039 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ce\b/ced/ < 1386272696 993927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1386272703 87320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see i would level that criticism more at "functional" < 1386272708 383936 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing means anything and we are all together < 1386272720 146969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's argue about whether code which uses first class continuations for control is "functional" < 1386272734 807353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they break equational reasoning pretty badly, I think < 1386272840 520753 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: do you know that math problem where you have k eggs and a skyscraper, you have to determine the exact lowest storey where the egg splats if you throw it from the window, minimize the total number of throws worst case? < 1386272902 361472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it turns out that you can do it in n tries you can do n choose k or n+k choose k or something like that stories. < 1386272904 712083 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do so hate that problem < 1386272925 693244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: maybe fibonacci search could have some similar interpretation < 1386272929 958696 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had that problem in algo class (with coconuts) and my friend actually tossed some coconuts off the CS building < 1386272944 187090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, that was the ugliest fucking building on campus < 1386272945 237003 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: wow < 1386272952 688674 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: isn't that dangerous in real life/ < 1386272953 564460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it's been demolished by now < 1386272961 982696 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if the coconut hits someone in the head? < 1386272976 675810 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I mean you probably need someone on the ground to make sure people don't walk into the drop zone < 1386273044 676331 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1386273157 576691 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: hmm, I think it's actually (n choose k) + (n choose k-1) + ... + (n choose 1) + (n choose 0) or something similar < 1386273198 499810 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus some constant < 1386273207 320569 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on how you count the stories < 1386273311 393420 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: pure? < 1386273314 675193 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: is there a problem variant that accounts for "skipped" stories? (4, 13... I can't think of any others) < 1386273353 795158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1386273355 247027 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I've always thought of "pure" meaning no side-effects in function calls (what D calls pure), but with no restraints inside the function for mutation of variables, etc < 1386273367 998561 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: You can simply factor in the skipped stories afterwards < 1386273374 208763 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I'll go look up "pure programming", though :) devlaritve wasn't it < 1386273387 13291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know whether we skip story numbers in here, because there are very few buildings that would have a 13th storey in first place < 1386273397 373033 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I guess it's externally pure vs internally pure or something like that < 1386273420 850562 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/vlarit/clariti/ < 1386273442 299159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: heh < 1386273457 469689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the samsung office building i worked from for a week skipped both 4 and 13 < 1386273460 342418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very multicultural < 1386273635 402395 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I fear I may be a little bit too hipster when it comes to stationary and stuff used to colourify it. I'm a fountain pen user, I buy notebooks with quality paper, I have more ink than I need for a few lifetimes... < 1386273805 868781 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1386273808 807939 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: how do you feel about fountain pens with onboard ink repositories? < 1386273827 341564 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: as opposed to, say, an ink well that you refill at < 1386274056 800547 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: the one I use the most has cartridges. other than that pen, I have one where you use a «compte-gouttes» to drip ink into its body, one with an adapter cartridge with a siphon, and one with a pressure pouch. < 1386274210 492923 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MS experts: can anyone tell me how to insert a Powerpoint slide into a Word document such that it is rotated 90 degrees?" < 1386275366 54296 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386275380 935620 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello jsvine < 1386275383 205114 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvinello < 1386275390 491559 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: long time no see! < 1386275473 49709 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ello! < 1386275480 191232 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, s'been a while. < 1386275492 46001 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got wrapped up with a big project, then went on vacation. < 1386275540 367583 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1386275546 858971 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What'd I miss? < 1386275580 574112 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-30-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1386275580 780490 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386275759 975238 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-61.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386275768 288592 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: plenty of things, silly discussions, world domination plans, the regular... < 1386275804 335381 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Sounds like my FOMO was fully justified. < 1386275812 816365 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, shameless plug: please take a look at the PDF → https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf) < 1386275829 89173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck FOMO < 1386275829 439484 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1386275834 377237 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jsvine: what's a fomo? < 1386275870 527372 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "Fear Of Missing Out": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out < 1386275880 225960 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. indeed. < 1386275950 355718 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386276001 204452 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386276023 661284 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My talk went alright < 1386276047 710759 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good :) < 1386276054 797437 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was kind of nervous and didn't really know what I was doing, though < 1386276091 919601 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been recorded, but it's not online yet < 1386276329 424857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, lots of these phantom hoover quotes that I don't recall seeing before before are great < 1386276349 586801 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Phantom_Hoov < 1386276351 97897 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :108) * Phantom_Hoover wonders where the size of the compiled Linux kernel comes from. To comply with the GFDL, there's a copy of Wikipedia in there. \ 112) how does a "DNA computer" work. von neumann machines? CakeProphet, that's boring in the context of DNA. It's just ste < 1386276384 640855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: if you need a g/f i know a girl who likes tea and fountain pens < 1386276524 682507 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sorry, I already have one, who incidentally likes tea and fountain pens :) < 1386276563 475410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: cool. did she get you interested or v/v or was it just mutual from the beginning? < 1386276623 607457 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pretty much mutual. < 1386276645 715937 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/aliens-on-the-loose-in-cardiff-8544532.html < 1386276747 915696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386276937 333295 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1386277107 32157 :pikhq_!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386277213 362813 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the HackEgo section including all quotes involving other quotes is redundant < 1386277255 194329 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1386277260 4955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1386277263 392623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is back in the UK again < 1386277271 751128 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1386277277 524001 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise you ever weren't < 1386277292 621149 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also this evening I presented a short talk on esolangs and it was scary < 1386277356 495949 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: re (By the way, what with the pineapples?) - apparently pineapples are a "running gag" in Psych (although not in a way you'd notice without reading about it first) < 1386277387 667375 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psych, as in that weird online RPG? < 1386277392 138794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: VHDL does let you parameterize bus widths, although the syntax is bizarre < 1386277400 789587 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: nah, the TV series < 1386277405 91231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: no, not intentionally, but it's not surprising < 1386277418 271265 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh. < 1386277473 895522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, finally managed to compile ocharles' latest article → http://ocharles.org.uk/blog/posts/2013-12-05-24-days-of-hackage-scotty.html) < 1386277497 771443 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm used to hdl syntax being bizarre by now :( < 1386277584 430161 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386277596 53265 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.176.123 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1386277745 194712 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp wisdom/døsthiswork wisdom/døsthiswørk < 1386277748 542710 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386277755 808312 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp wisdom/doesthiswork wisdom/døsthiswork < 1386277759 551535 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386277827 837682 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat wisdom/Everyone | tr a-z A-Z > wisdom/EVERYONE < 1386277831 856271 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: wisdom/Everyone: No such file or directory < 1386277857 428469 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how does the case stuff work again < 1386277907 895821 :Bike!~Glossina@stephdining-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386277958 154576 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which CAT < 1386277959 468557 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1386277999 613669 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? EVERYONE < 1386278001 646906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone in here is mad. < 1386278014 331337 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I think ? lowercases its input, unfortunately < 1386278034 244845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's done in ? indeed < 1386278154 299760 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386278155 361810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is demoiselle a word or truncated mademoiselle? < 1386278168 604819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's a word. < 1386278178 424403 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, new repo! https://github.com/pfcuttle/twentyfour-2013 < 1386278206 489143 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the longer one means something like "my" demoiselle then? or they're both used? < 1386278236 733448 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :demoiselle is just the personne, mademoiselle is the address, as with monsieur, madame, etc. < 1386278259 640907 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and those are my sir, my dame? < 1386278353 837735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fr:monsieur → en:mister, fr:madame → en:mrs, fr:mademoiselle → en:miss. < 1386278372 405614 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a controversy about the usage of «mademoiselle» last year. < 1386278387 160290 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what the words *mean*, but I'm trying to make sense of them < 1386278422 15542 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1386278452 828205 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well, in that case, you tries are correct. < 1386278461 916030 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-61.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1386278475 757902 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«monsieur» → «mon sieur» → «mon seigneur». < 1386278486 665171 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«madame» is straightforward. < 1386278544 6239 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also «damoiseau» (masc. version of demoiselle). that one disappeared a long, long time ago. < 1386278744 223456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wait what? < 1386278754 838999 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: isn't damoiselle derived from dame? < 1386278759 262532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can it have a male version? < 1386278794 680394 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's de mois elle and de mois eau? < 1386278814 86134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hmm < 1386278844 372023 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where "mois" would mean what? < 1386278849 596168 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eau might be an alternate spelling if il or whatever the masculing third person is in french < 1386278866 625854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, eau is clear, there's a pronoun eaux < 1386278874 225647 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is mois? < 1386278939 308379 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :me, mine, to me, month, something < 1386278949 405190 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, it's not derived from dame, but I don't think it's related to de moise either < 1386278978 188214 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eaux??? < 1386278999 78991 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :bourd eaux < 1386279010 195275 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386279011 263755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding, I know approx. 0 french < 1386279014 265906 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, and damsel is another spelling of demoiselle < 1386279017 258111 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :at most < 1386279026 203853 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, sorry < 1386279030 414564 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's not "eaux" < 1386279034 778867 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't make sense... < 1386279065 323002 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pronoun is "eux", not "eaux" < 1386279072 744963 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/damoiseau < 1386279082 960735 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some weird fungot going on with those words... < 1386279083 336145 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the migration is reversed of yours. signed: anonymous' text.) hmm... long digression in any case, i should < 1386279103 124291 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you definitely should. < 1386279103 327634 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: nope. haskell. < 1386279121 249560 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is this some kind of functional-programmer "chuck testa" thing? < 1386279121 550835 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and in fnord we needed a nickname, so we know when one of your friends? -g ( was that good grammer?) < 1386279148 957405 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it wasn't very good grammer, no, I'm sorry. You need to markov your sentences better < 1386279149 289087 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: how so? it could be hacked up using forth execution tokens...) is relying on implicit program state where none was necessary. the same can be said of scheme. < 1386279161 245258 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good suggestion < 1386279180 780724 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should apparently hack up fungot's chat code using forth execution tokens < 1386279180 984079 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i can't say whether someone is using it right now tho < 1386279196 768999 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fair enough. < 1386279261 968022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :domina/dominus -> diminutive +cella/us -> fudge some letters -> damoiseau/elle < 1386279443 827895 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot french < 1386279444 163829 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: the bot is not an oversight that they were thinking " what the hell does one implement a script language anyway < 1386279840 592315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what did I say about being sentient? < 1386279840 835560 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am not easy to find the equivalent of developing at the lisp repl. < 1386280021 208399 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the equivalent of developing fungot at the lisp repl? hmm... < 1386280021 413533 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ' while true: pass', fnord seconds < 1386280069 135418 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord must be a huge number < 1386280084 155009 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord seconds are not like other seconds < 1386280166 764405 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1386280167 5523 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1386280693 684130 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh, there are now monad *video* tutorials < 1386280714 150286 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a soothing voice and face reading maclane out loud < 1386280754 649522 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the floating head of arthur frayn explains monads < 1386280769 716169 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many fnord seconds in a megalun? < 1386280826 720296 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1386280834 475604 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1386280899 206673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the floating heads of zardoz to explain monads < 1386281069 109078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1386281087 927895 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: in Rust you can't always transform a struct field access to a call to an accessor function :/ < 1386281104 581589 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What do you mean? < 1386281125 400742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because &self.x will only borrow that field but self.get_x() will borrow the whole thing (fn get_x<'t>(&'t self) -> &'t whatever) < 1386281139 955990 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hmm. < 1386281163 627749 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a thing that should be not the case < 1386281166 53544 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, that reminds < 1386281166 693242 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.65.71 PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1386281184 768949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so introducing such a get_x (because you want to add an assertion, for example) can require nontrivial changes to all the users of that field :/ < 1386281193 211142 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my solution was to write a macro instead :3 < 1386281202 453164 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :macro cat is watching you abstract syntactically < 1386281285 940424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's an interesting interplay between macros and static vs. dynamic checking in the design space of programming languages < 1386281348 500742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros are a form of abstraction which defers static checking until the abstraction is used < 1386281411 428367 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are C++ templates, sort of. < 1386281422 458502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means they are more necessary in static languages, but also you lose more by using them vs. alternatives < 1386281470 70143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, C++ templates are a macro system for the purposes of this point < 1386281487 842105 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm starting to appreciate more and more how they can do things that macro systems can't and also things that traditional polymorphism can't < 1386281493 205089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are a really strange and unique feature < 1386281497 693158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <3 C++ < 1386281507 152327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's such a hot mess < 1386281514 497654 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which things are you thinking of < 1386281672 321505 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool i have a circuit working that i can't simulate correctly < 1386281680 471594 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what's a thing templates can do that macros can't? < 1386281724 479431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're wired into the type system so they can introspect on types < 1386281744 272638 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning what exactly < 1386281803 792877 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-30.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386281808 39060 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're sort of logic programming pattern matching on types to decide which bit of code to generate < 1386281823 721390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write a class template which does something different when its type argument is a reference, vs. a struct, vs. an int < 1386281825 848328 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so you generate ifferent code for classes and integers, sorta thing? < 1386281828 631830 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1386281831 434773 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do these things recursively to deconstruct types < 1386281854 474109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the key language features enabling this are template specialization, function overloading, and SFINAE < 1386281859 205086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substitution_failure_is_not_an_error) < 1386281891 807511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for example there's a standard library of "type traits" (http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/type_traits/), predicates about types which can be used to direct template expansion < 1386281895 666601 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :SFINAE is pretty much backtracking, I think < 1386282109 777097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and with constexpr you can do plenty of straightforward compile-time computation on these things, as well < 1386282175 705173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what were you reminded of? < 1386282364 622061 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Evening < 1386282381 29158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome _46bit < 1386282383 343560 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1386282384 749860 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had a bit of fun listening to Taneb talk about esolangs earlier :-) < 1386282390 941518 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1386282396 10490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you plug our channel Taneb? :) < 1386282417 109713 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did, classily. < 1386282418 977528 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is there a record of the talk online (e.g. slides)? < 1386282447 917215 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: We videod it, will be online tonight or tomorrow < 1386282462 813532 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't come across Slashes before but it looks like the esolang for me < 1386282472 54241 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's taneb talk about again. something about haskell cellular automata < 1386282494 489750 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (in)formally entitled A Tour Of Esoteric Programming Languages < 1386282516 166149 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something wonderfully entertaining to my mind about a program that self-modifies to do even the simplest things < 1386282536 599010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1386282539 249665 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i figured out why my test wasn't working. i didn't have an initialization for a register. in the actual circuit there was some default initialization but the simulator ain't having none of that shit so it just floated everything like an asshole < 1386282544 509565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you'll like my upcoming blog post _46bit < 1386282548 342355 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is slashes ///? < 1386282552 487702 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah < 1386282557 58996 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah good language < 1386282559 78726 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc :) < 1386282560 878658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1386282580 439419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is p. famous here for inventing d-modules and other things < 1386282580 686576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: it's about how x86 is turing complete with no registers, as long as you allow self-modification of operands < 1386282594 383456 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i don't think of it for the self-modification so much as demonstrating The Awesome Power of Grammar < 1386282599 370264 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ah yeah a plague of ?'s < 1386282615 955112 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had some fun considering integer incrementation during the talk actually < 1386282620 875852 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i hope you tie this into the fun vax addressing mode < 1386282630 854977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax addressing mode < 1386282634 917166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i should mention it at least < 1386282638 381520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I failed to find info on that, though < 1386282646 319502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think VAX gives x86 a run for its money as far as CISCiness goes < 1386282647 586178 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's pretty much what it sounds like. < 1386282655 609604 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: indeed, apparently he invented d-modules when he was older < 1386282666 273061 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also chu spaces (the best thing) < 1386282670 64107 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :vax had polynomial evaluation and my professor wrote binary search as an instruction, i fucking love that < 1386282723 108704 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that polys are remotely hard but stilllll < 1386282805 940557 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nope everything's still floating. wonder what i fucked up. < 1386282820 184682 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :#drugz < 1386282920 719398 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you should fix the floating things < 1386282924 805401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does "binary search as an instruction" work < 1386282929 990706 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks firefly. < 1386282945 30809 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: presumably like the x86 string copy instructions < 1386282963 657440 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :used microcode. i don't know the details. < 1386282965 820882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1386282973 92406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was user microcode upload a supported feature? < 1386282995 84324 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he had to steal an undocument from a company technician :D < 1386283000 883788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1386283029 307746 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he xeroxed it and bound it in some ripped up jeans of his girlfriend's, is what he said < 1386283035 555946 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somethin like that < 1386283067 145163 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386283105 203903 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, I wish someone did that for modern CPUs. < 1386283120 211850 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really wish these synthesis tools would give me more errors instead of blithely letting me design circuits that only work by accident < 1386283131 861551 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :put your circuit near a source of RF noise < 1386283139 195222 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds familiar < 1386283145 242706 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the xerox-and-ripped-jeans part < 1386283154 83993 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've mentioned it before, probably < 1386283167 732901 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm reasonably sure he wasn't making this up since he passed the thing around, btw < 1386283184 63342 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: do what, put together an undocumented behavior guide? < 1386283226 81970 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1386283245 120718 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although in fairness, people get legal threats over ARM simulators let alone that. < 1386283253 503866 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation of all documents that do not document themselves < 1386283255 309646 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't uh, what's his name, the x86 micro guy pretty much cover that < 1386283278 185872 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1386283294 746785 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately the four thousand page optimization manuals < 1386283304 630053 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :agner, that dude. < 1386283380 287235 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386283392 572045 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good news i fixed the floating. and the problem was what i thought. these tools cost like a billion dollars, they oughta be able to tell me not initializing an output register is stupid < 1386283660 394722 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1386283738 15468 :jsvine!~Adium@205.203.128.141 PART :#esoteric < 1386283792 614795 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix cos :: Floating a => a < 1386283796 156845 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1386283818 730017 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you're better than lambdabot at fixing the floating < 1386283840 278066 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope i'm in circuit mode, i can't think about iterated trig functions < 1386283854 175408 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though sine does have one obvious fixed point. < 1386283941 399031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :<...> we need a #haskell-oldboys < 1386283951 267829 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs. < 1386283979 704240 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :opped by haskell curry < 1386284015 922209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<_46bit> I had some fun considering integer incrementation during the talk actually <-- been there done that http://esolangs.org/wiki/Deadfish#itflabtijtslwi (that's /// with a minor addition to allow input) < 1386284078 545538 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Is that a /// implementation in Deadfish? < 1386284182 74268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm jsvine was here earlier < 1386284212 414560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: other way round < 1386284222 727509 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't implement /// in Deadfish < 1386284240 426432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically can't implement anything in Deadfish, apart from programs to print out constant lists of numbers < 1386284358 900549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*numbers other than 256 < 1386284371 937437 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh yes, is Deadfish not turing-complete? < 1386284387 406827 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: it's not really anything-complete < 1386284389 140900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: it's about as un-turing-complete as you get < 1386284392 448216 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1386284399 40061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't even truth-machine-complete < 1386284420 654052 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, programs that just output numbers can be interesting. < 1386284457 366504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh right, you can't write 256 < 1386284471 6537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of that hello world program in Radixal!!!! < 1386284488 821045 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person who wrote it commented on how ridiculous it was to have a language that had both input and output, but couldn't do cat < 1386284626 590440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_46bit: deadfish's niche is basically to be as useless as you can get while still being fun to implement < 1386284679 415512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: though it's not the only such language, e.g. thue < 1386284689 608680 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1386284701 392906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1386284724 504770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although in the case of radixal is more "intentional" < 1386284725 216813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Radixal!!!!'s case, though, it's purely due to being perverse for no good reason < 1386284726 974170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's < 1386284782 886776 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kangxi radical fight < 1386284833 622148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode KANGXI RADICAL FIGHT < 1386284833 980189 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1386284835 291465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⾾ < 1386284837 173565 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy christ did i fuck up this circuit < 1386284853 605672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for half a second putty showed that as s) < 1386284872 310540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord ​⾾ < 1386284872 532538 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :226 128 139 226 190 190 < 1386284885 925214 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is haskell part of the dream of the 90s? < 1386284888 628370 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ord ​⾾ < 1386284890 172272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :8203 12222 < 1386284894 786256 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(re: galois) < 1386284896 694294 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is haskell alive in portland < 1386284912 741836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: no it's sleepless in seattle < 1386285090 94313 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386285150 624277 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386285205 845235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2**x for x > 32 is always bigger than 32 <-- 2**x > x, see: cantor < 1386285274 779298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's true if you replace 2 by any number > 1, isn't it < 1386285358 799484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check x>1 ==> x**y > (y::Double) < 1386285358 991950 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `check' failed with: Ambiguous infix expression < 1386285376 634820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1.1 ** 2 = 1.21 < 2 < 1386285377 518135 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> x>1 ==> x**y > (y::Double) < 1386285377 715529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `check' failed with: Ambiguous infix expression < 1386285394 745239 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1386285399 935227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oops < 1386285405 671560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.1 ** 2 < 1386285406 752891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.2100000000000002 < 1386285419 457389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my value for 1.1 ** 2 is more accurate < 1386285424 431444 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you were talking about 2 ** x < 1386285443 600511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot's looks more accurate, though, because of all the zeros < 1386285455 358690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x>1) ==> (x**y > (y::Double)) < 1386285456 672963 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1386285457 828883 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1.1 ** 2 :: CReal < 1386285458 800326 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.21 < 1386285482 27700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \x y -> (x>1) ==> (x**y > (y::Double)) < 1386285483 274559 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Failed! Falsifiable (after 1 test and 1 shrink): < 1386285483 468038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.1593171888308589 < 1386285483 468200 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1386285509 757903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: very useful output format, that < 1386285533 156410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it took more than 100 tries to falsify that? is it just trying numbers at random? < 1386285545 78061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well yes < 1386285549 842063 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1386285554 696822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help check < 1386285554 885971 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :check < 1386285554 886134 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have QuickCheck and 3 seconds. Prove something. < 1386285569 647603 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION objects to the use of the word "prove" < 1386285571 166059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, hmm < 1386285582 184101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the program you use to run Perl testsuites is called prove(1) < 1386285586 258232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \y -> (2**y > (y::Double)) < 1386285587 451426 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1386285589 559204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@check \y -> (2**y > (y::Double)) < 1386285590 716570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : +++ OK, passed 100 tests. < 1386285591 668110 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain mentally objects to the name every time I run it < 1386285600 406852 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1386285625 814381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. < 1386285635 958913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (1.1**) 0 < 1386285637 79942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,1.1,1.1105342410545758,1.1116498000257782,1.1117680015030489,1.111... < 1386285648 63894 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric < 1386285662 547708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explains why my argument failed, i didn't consider that could converge < 1386285665 283944 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the limit exists for less than 1/e or something, iirc < 1386285677 961862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, I guessed it would be something like that < 1386285696 786352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was trying to work out how to find the break point < 1386285697 400695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well 1.1 is > 1/e < 1386285704 378594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it almost certainly involves e somethow < 1386285705 645098 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you suck!! < 1386285710 152829 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here i'll look it up < 1386285746 673301 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's e ^ (1/e). < 1386285748 820005 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great number < 1386285762 733466 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see… we want (x**y)/y to be < 1; that means y*log x - log y is negative < 1386285776 537563 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this was shown by euler because of course it fucking was. < 1386285797 39745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to find the largest possible x that works, we need to find the y that maximizes log y / y < 1386285813 987024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I think that's 1/e from memory < 1386285847 557311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that's e < 1386285865 361716 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :log e / e = 1/e, so the value of x we need is e^(1/e) < 1386285883 982863 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp 1 < 1386285884 995231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.718281828459045 < 1386285894 186652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (exp 1) ** (1 / exp 1) < 1386285895 180829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1386285907 179161 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Leonhard_Euler < 1386285913 168722 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (1/exp 1) -- *cough* < 1386285914 219307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1386285928 558385 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wasn't trying to golf :-( < 1386285943 920179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (exp (1 / exp 1)) ** (exp 1) < 1386285944 919753 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.7182818284590446 < 1386285959 21965 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, theoretically that should be equal to e < 1386285961 50890 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp.exp$ -1 < 1386285961 745378 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it looks pretty close < 1386285962 173563 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1386285974 793213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (exp (1 / exp 1)) < 1386285975 847780 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.240443492279831 < 1386285982 194310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, right < 1386286026 407575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exp is e^x, not x^e < 1386286053 11653 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, e^x is always >= x^e, and e is the only number for which that's true (for positive x) < 1386286076 57744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (exp(exp(-1))**) 0 < 1386286077 106659 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,1.444667861009766,1.7014206956610736,1.8699612238030825,1.98957349... < 1386286116 237136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> exp (exp (-1)) < 1386286117 153378 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.444667861009766 < 1386286119 807446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a fun number < 1386286145 398471 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now find the lower limit! < 1386286263 105697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm it's obvious that e is the only one if it's true :) < 1386286271 607944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, it's obvious that there's only one < 1386286275 757712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as soon as I realised that I set out to find it < 1386286332 65481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those things that calculus is really good at < 1386286369 560863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (0.9**) 0 < 1386286370 630867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,0.9,0.9095325760829622,0.9086195391380412,0.9087069507641854,0.908... < 1386286423 900567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok there might actually be a lower limit of sorts? < 1386286435 976799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (0.1**) 0 < 1386286437 37474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.0,1.0,0.1,0.7943282347242815,0.16057272043212115,0.6909192287599791,0.20... < 1386286450 438754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 $ iterate (0.1**) 0 < 1386286451 499607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3989449593934298,0.3990754762592498,0.3989555616466416,0.399065733912108... < 1386286465 125832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that doesn't look very non-converging < 1386286510 609462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to guess it converges for every 0 drop 100 $ iterate (0.01**) 0 < 1386286575 977524 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.3092520507995337e-2,0.9414883685756696,1.3092520507995337e-2,0.941488368... < 1386286603 201025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's not very quickly converging < 1386286603 393150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.1**) 0 < 1386286604 273729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.39901297826025206,0.3990129782602521,0.39901297826025206,0.3990129782602... < 1386286636 262571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems to be alternating at that point, presumably due to floating point inaccuracies < 1386286640 323146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.01**) 0 < 1386286641 423363 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.3092520507995337e-2,0.9414883685756696,1.3092520507995337e-2,0.941488368... < 1386286652 149332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that doesn't look like it converges < 1386286669 885256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except to alternate < 1386286686 708817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.01**) 0.01 < 1386286687 748120 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1.3092520507995337e-2,0.9414883685756696,1.3092520507995337e-2,0.941488368... < 1386286693 106243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1386286700 568283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.1**) 0.1 < 1386286701 638745 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.39901297826025206,0.3990129782602521,0.39901297826025206,0.3990129782602... < 1386286745 780644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1/exp(exp 1) < 1386286746 833602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6.598803584531254e-2 < 1386286771 746906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.07**) 0 < 1386286772 824652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3719261662560938,0.37193045518462764,0.37192621320203767,0.3719304087522... < 1386286778 676690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.06**) 0 < 1386286779 708493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.2168980649057752,0.5432295305057313,0.2168980649057752,0.543229530505731... < 1386286800 885559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah i think i may have guessed right that it changes at 1/e^e < 1386286828 4725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.065**) 0 < 1386286829 116961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3030082866002573,0.43682039793123895,0.3030095664824946,0.43681886976616... < 1386286833 24742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.066**) 0 < 1386286834 62393 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3404782877557717,0.3963513487529059,0.3405059041591694,0.396321598088106... < 1386286850 57160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 1000 $ iterate (0.067**) 0 < 1386286851 71381 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3648850253415895,0.3729514282282367,0.3649076104537553,0.372928660621407... < 1386286909 717064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 10000 $ iterate (0.067**) 0 < 1386286910 741181 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.368912903977469,0.3689129039775534,0.3689129039774693,0.3689129039775531... < 1386286925 913436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 10000 $ iterate (0.065**) 0 < 1386286926 982467 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3031239805467282,0.43668228225140027,0.3031239805467282,0.43668228225140... < 1386286932 54098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 10000 $ iterate (0.066**) 0 < 1386286933 144097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.36037642863910974,0.37548402040723905,0.360377452553513,0.37548297539825... < 1386286959 334906 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386286975 914795 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100000 $ iterate (0.066**) 0 < 1386286976 939771 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.36762949368556197,0.3681540095360947,0.3676295111928457,0.36815399201691... < 1386287025 156184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it think it converges for x > 1/e^e, although pretty slowly when it's close < 1386287035 396507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alternates for x < 1/e^e < 1386287231 872080 :john_metcalf!~john_metc@87.114.102.71 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1386287325 797245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well there's still that small alternation that might be just floating point error for larger < 1386287427 798546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate (0.1**) (0.39901297826025206 :: CReal) < 1386287431 449689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1386287443 370137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 5 . take 10 $ iterate (0.1**) (0.39901297826025206 :: CReal) < 1386287444 602833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3990129782602520791881769909114066462547,0.39901297826025206462150470053... < 1386287478 202932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 5 . take 20 $ iterate (0.1**) (0.39901297826025206 :: CReal) < 1386287481 95207 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3990129782602520791881769909114066462547,0.39901297826025206462150470053... < 1386287505 666240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1386287511 10285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 15 . take 20 $ iterate (0.1**) (0.39901297826025206 :: CReal) < 1386287513 300905 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0.3990129782602520748500883139609762878626,0.39901297826025206860717284755... < 1386287540 964043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems to be converging further < 1386287590 130120 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 . take 2 $ iterate (0..1**) (0 :: CReal) < 1386287591 64634 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:31: parse error on input `..' < 1386287594 373635 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 . take 2 $ iterate (0.1**) (0 :: CReal) < 1386287595 333470 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1386287603 599614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1386287618 515648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're dropping 100 elements from a size 2 list < 1386287630 338141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1386287633 437348 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> drop 100 . take 102 $ iterate (0.1**) (0 :: CReal) < 1386287637 28406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1386287643 7806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was afraid of that < 1386287662 268307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was I, thought it was worth a try anyway < 1386287828 102944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1386287896 959180 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric