< 1386460887 242467 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
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< 1386462391 809762 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch our wiki's rectwrap class is no longer working for IE11 :(
< 1386462464 873824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by which i mean, i tried to fix lucasieks' edit to use it, it didn't look good, which made me look at the other places i knew it was used, and it no longer looked good there either.)
< 1386462500 353846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't really surprising since it depends on IE having a parser difference.
< 1386462583 244413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WHAT DID THEY DO
< 1386462594 222833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: who
< 1386462597 417746 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED BETTER RESETS
< 1386462601 554955 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: MS
< 1386462619 272651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a friend who does the product testing on IE
< 1386462631 103837 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS
< 1386462649 674806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches Mr. van Doom's talk about esolangs
< 1386462655 397831 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O
< 1386462675 794860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i may be guessing that they fixed the parsing to be compliant with everyone else, _without_ fixing the thing that makes the usual style setting for making every other browser wrap things rectangularly break on IE
< 1386462706 482684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the parser hack is necessary because the thing that makes it work for IE, makes firefox break instead.
< 1386462752 370605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: btw this is our hack .rectwrap { word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: pre\9 }
< 1386462753 640236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: can you relink that i'll watch it too
< 1386462778 45394 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7FGKQu70TU
< 1386462794 14312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the \9 makes either IE ignore that option or everyone else, i don't quite remember.
< 1386462807 634344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or did in IE <= 9)
< 1386462862 112277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ screen -r
< 1386462862 301150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aborted
< 1386462863 843042 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can't we just make a bad-IE-specific css and <!--if IE lt 11 (or whatever that syntax is) around its inclusion?
< 1386462864 330122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ain't good
< 1386462909 234973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it was back in september, so it must have worked in IE10 as well
< 1386462929 658443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that i added it)
< 1386462945 809863 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what group was this given for?
< 1386462973 562160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, because IE has not supported that syntax in a while, including for IE 9 which needs the hack
< 1386462981 257802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*IE 10
< 1386462984 110058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about 9
< 1386463001 241910 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :serve the style sheet from a PHP script which looks at the User-agent header
< 1386463025 818496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ooh, that's evil :P
< 1386463039 650560 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, my uni's computer enthusiast society
< 1386463274 229532 :Taneb!~Taneb@5.151.64.126 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1386463446 109710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok just removing the \9 makes it work in IE11
< 1386463656 326491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i have no idea why it needs _both_ white-space: settings.
< 1386464007 789134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can also do that client-side with JS which creates a <script> element, or sets the src= on one)
< 1386464540 75192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: this is in mediawiki btw
< 1386464599 18721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are strict limits to how much can be done before elliott puts his foot down in despair.
< 1386464618 657166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH: "I'm confused, is drinking winning or losing?"
< 1386464835 618193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: can you reload css with ctrl-F5 and visit http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox and tell if the two pre blocks look equal? and anyone else with firefox and/or chrome.
< 1386464853 733687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he seems disturbingly idle.
< 1386464879 603398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first one has newline before block of C, second does not
< 1386464898 423477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch
< 1386464903 309667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait
< 1386464911 34149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good
< 1386464922 550612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means the new version looks better than the old one :)
< 1386464959 461707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second one looks better to me
< 1386464967 447204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome 31 on Win
< 1386464983 406544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i want the version which looks as close to rectangular as possible, of course.
< 1386464986 407221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :)
< 1386464993 562154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anyone with firefox?
< 1386465070 117679 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :second has horizontal scrollbar in FF
< 1386465077 293107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(20)
< 1386465086 277160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first is rectangular
< 1386465088 37940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :(
< 1386465093 509660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh*
< 1386465127 473549 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/word-wrap
< 1386465130 71039 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :note the Note there, perhaps
< 1386465148 199374 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also: word-wrap:break-word can be used to work around lack of pre{white-space:pre-wrap} support in IE 5.5-7. See white-space for an example.
< 1386465240 111143 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1386465248 114683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: however that's not in the part that is parsed differently
< 1386465297 271524 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the need for whether to have white-space: pre or not which messes up things.
< 1386465299 295948 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386465369 23151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE11 seems to require _both_ white-space: pre-wrap and white-space: pre, for some unfathomable reason (aren't they overriding each other?)
< 1386465375 835434 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: same in FF 25
< 1386465392 110393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what do you mean by "same"
< 1386465425 571744 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in FF 20
< 1386465431 806746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1386465588 982649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i found the link for the hack again
< 1386465597 403065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://jsbin.com/bulletproof-responsive-pre/2/edit
< 1386465618 30670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will try copying all of it.
< 1386465634 767097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that page actually looks good to me.
< 1386465864 157648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok can you recheck now
< 1386466003 436709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :which browsers?
< 1386466029 413773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrome and firefox.  of course the full hack is supposed to work in even more, so if you've got them... :P
< 1386466044 250562 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :second rectangular in chrome
< 1386466049 941752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1386466051 569666 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also in FF (both are)
< 1386466054 433822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay!
< 1386466054 774906 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :first is not rectangular in chrome
< 1386466068 130210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter, first is the old version which was only part of the hack
< 1386466079 485911 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in IE11, neither are rectangular
< 1386466081 930288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which somehow stopped working
< 1386466084 829579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat
< 1386466091 210215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using IE11 you doofus :P
< 1386466103 657648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :11.0.9600.16428
< 1386466110 372272 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then our configurations or versions differ
< 1386466114 289678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh!
< 1386466140 65681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :16438 here
< 1386466184 918064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is ridiculous :(
< 1386466192 251404 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to update IE
< 1386466209 379236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well in my "about IE" there's a checkbox for it
< 1386466218 579041 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you what rules it thinks applies to that element
< 1386466227 723314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1386466273 750267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :word-break: break-all; word-wrap: break-word; (this one crossed out but ticked:) white-space: pre; (not ticked, i.e. not understood:) white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; (ticked:) white-space: pre-wrap; (not ticked:) white-space: pre\9;
< 1386466311 393768 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you are using compatibility view
< 1386466342 758731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i can see
< 1386466363 822781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait
< 1386466386 838737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, discard that. i must of forgot to reload properly, the last one no longer looks rectangular. :(
< 1386466390 535145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have
< 1386466405 623341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh*
< 1386466546 290643 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386466609 999262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reverts
< 1386466661 531280 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1386466722 217205 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can look at the difference between which rules are being applied in each version with "Inspect element"
< 1386466724 842312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well i guess i shall have to wait until get-the-damn-browsers-to-cooperate hacking technology improves
< 1386466738 762830 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386466744 913394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the page in question
< 1386466758 747141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i reverted the last css hack
< 1386466772 182855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well i put up a test on Esolang:Sandbox
< 1386466798 602177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Sandbox ?
< 1386466800 735352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently the css is defined so that the second works in IE11 and chrome, the first works in chrome and firefox
< 1386466804 234998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1386466819 275282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hack used for the first _used_ to work in previous IE.
< 1386466839 652051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in servo it's a blank grey page
< 1386466840 592545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth
< 1386466846 142723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fancy :P
< 1386466860 266937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think i particularly worry about that.
< 1386466969 818798 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we're just in a state where there is no css-only hack that works on the latest versions of all major browsers, well them's the breaks
< 1386467020 690887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the page where i got the hack from works because it wraps actual text and not reams of punctuation strings.
< 1386467028 475328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*still works
< 1386467153 321527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: we probably _could_ split common.css by browser as kmc said, right?
< 1386467245 665680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may be the only site on the net which actually needs this to work with reams of punctuation :P
< 1386467271 984343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one possible problem with rectangular wrapping is that it is hard to tell when there are newlines or not
< 1386467307 397718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i wouldn't be using .rectwrap for any language which allows newlines for normal formatting anyhow
< 1386467358 334413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so so far it hasn't been a problem, i think
< 1386467406 503229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't think this wrapping method hides that unless the previous line is accidentally maximal length.
< 1386469084 929571 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how can it be blank and grey at the same time
< 1386469099 112443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whiter shade of pale
< 1386469122 112897 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond the pale
< 1386470322 174483 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1386470426 264956 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there has been an increase in the use of the construction "word / word" in this channel over the years
< 1386470638 190471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i / see
< 1386470687 915450 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
< 1386470790 163320 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :monqy is particularly fond of them
< 1386470957 750682 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-210.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386471043 541564 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-210.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Client Quit
< 1386471526 486738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gf is shocked that I haven't seen The Nightmare Before Christmas
< 1386472266 215049 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is  shocking
< 1386472314 858032 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is she going to make you watch it and stay the night?
< 1386472415 101689 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1386472422 10357 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386472557 505112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/1sbfmb/honorary_doctorate_for_simon_peyton_jones_on/cdw471w?context=3
< 1386472610 250664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need a PhD to program in Haskell, but you need one to write well-designed libraries
< 1386472633 289400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying that spj doesn't write well-designed libraries.
< 1386472634 139522 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, how many libraries are a direct result of a PhD program? I think there's at least one)
< 1386472635 457497 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1386472755 28160 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :are phds good
< 1386473321 137371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, i just have a doctorate in science, like spj.
< 1386473399 584882 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the matter, doctorate your tongue?
< 1386473405 813385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this apparently makes you retroactively good at programming haskell.  sadly i only found haskell afterwards.
< 1386473461 769426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, dr. lecter was not involved.
< 1386473476 86808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you write thc, the trondheim haskell compiler
< 1386473532 264648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1386473551 997090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i got laziness into the wrong part of the process
< 1386473583 66558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08 <lightquake> "If [monads are] useful, you'd think one of the best hackers [Paul Graham] would have said something about it."
< 1386473586 36797 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:08 <lightquake> never change, hacker news
< 1386473638 723840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Paul Graham have anything to say about continuations?
< 1386473639 905110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are the coblubs of pg
< 1386473670 470118 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-ad034ea6.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least some CLers think that they're useful, otherwise cl-cont and that web framework based on it wouldn't exist
< 1386473756 960407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went and looked at the thread and it's worse than i imagined
< 1386473872 964498 :L8D!~seed@99-156-81-149.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386474247 669547 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you give a shit about paul graham
< 1386475391 680713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hacker news jokes, i see
< 1386475647 497932 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone see this character 😕
< 1386475666 609162 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have that character in my charset and i wish i did
< 1386475725 316723 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^confused face?
< 1386475783 65077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see about 2/3 of it, as usual with putty
< 1386476150 235796 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1386476160 563872 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i be able to see it help
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< 1386477600 540079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome rntz
< 1386477604 3442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13rntz: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06<http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.)
< 1386478271 250426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1386479986 585190 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a standard for specifying cyclic tags with i/o
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< 1386485803 199125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if OpenMPT will load .MOD files with arbitrary note values?
< 1386488015 969640 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds
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< 1386494427 405692 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote
< 1386494431 352874 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :873) <fizzie> fungot: Are you the previous version of zzo38?  <fungot> fizzie: i run some interactive tex programs
< 1386494444 661793 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: Are you the previous version of fungot?
< 1386494447 30642 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​shachaf?
< 1386494450 957049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot?
< 1386494730 990000 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the topic of this channel seems kind of dubious, isn't https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church%E2%80%93Kleene_ordinal beyond your reach?
< 1386494751 897841 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church%E2%80%93Kleene_ordinal beyond your reach?
< 1386494762 217213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's with fungot?
< 1386494765 412186 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruddy: is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church%E2%80%93Kleene_ordinal beyond your reach?
< 1386494766 680263 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help? you're beyond help, i'm afraid.
< 1386494767 449859 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :look, i know i put it on the top shelf but it's not that high up.
< 1386494784 73260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an esolang based on string rewriting/regex/pattern matching?
< 1386494803 336376 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue
< 1386494811 276113 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: should i learn about large *dinals and if so how
< 1386494832 123320 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little bit less esoteric than thue
< 1386494845 999346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed?
< 1386494851 626420 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl
< 1386494856 948912 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not an esolang.
< 1386494865 112543 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it has an entry
< 1386494871 976226 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah.
< 1386494921 389734 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :///
< 1386494932 559287 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/HuSC19El <- like haskell
< 1386494939 574980 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I need regexes in the patterns :(
< 1386494948 667480 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just a:as
< 1386494980 211936 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a match method
< 1386494998 637083 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works?
< 1386495014 217301 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why shouldn't it?
< 1386495026 592441 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well
< 1386495027 890902 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1386495035 656418 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course I can do this with evey language with regex bindings
< 1386495045 928868 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd like to have some native support :)
< 1386495336 968619 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things that natively do regex mainly include sed, Perl, AWK, and a few others.
< 1386495362 810454 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed being turing complete should do the job
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< 1386497960 901115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this program sometimes I have JSR to a subroutine and then it does a few other things and then falls through into the same subroutine. (In one case it does not do anything else in between.) This can save space and also speed up the program. It is sort of like tail calling but with falling through. What is it called?
< 1386498128 198270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replacing a JSR ... RTS with JMP will save one byte and nine cycles. Falling through saves another three bytes and three cycles.
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< 1386499983 117566 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a sibling call (sibling tail call?)
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< 1386502098 143035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Is something with you? 
< 1386502098 349832 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what you really want to go
< 1386502128 784653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I'unno. ruddy's ignored, and maybe you were over the four-consecutive-messages limit.
< 1386502131 661854 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :​it might, in any case other fizzie's fizzie's
< 1386502238 2971 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you really want to go today?
< 1386502238 239886 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is that your new lang? it looks to me that it was only a recording of that.
< 1386502604 1917 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey
< 1386502604 192495 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i was thinking today about token based languages rather than english from time to time
< 1386502619 292135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you hate me
< 1386502619 597456 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: so that " make dist" if i call that c and c++ are languages for smart people, starting with macro-expand-time: they need to do
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< 1386502842 622511 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: token-based languages? interesting
< 1386502842 865385 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that violates the standard, so when you read it
< 1386502848 732129 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh. darn.
< 1386502848 938461 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it is actually a channel about scheme is that the students all have windows at home myself.
< 1386503703 963829 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386503986 805700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Along with C, C++ is a language for smart people.' > wisdom/c++  # C already had a good-enough entry
< 1386503990 828400 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output.
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< 1386504537 916289 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? c
< 1386504539 956602 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is the language of��V�>WIד�.��Segmentation fault
< 1386504548 315673 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good enough
< 1386505644 24289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386505829 947458 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church%E2%80%93Kleene_ordinal beyond your reach?
< 1386505830 298530 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: what should i do that most places don't look at their w2k that took over 5 mins to recover from the feeling of the line
< 1386506150 997565 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently fungot moonlights recovering data from feelings, but refuses to answer questions about the Church-Kleene ordinal
< 1386506151 240688 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there's an advantage to doing it by hand, and thus fnord
< 1386506191 593002 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord taken
< 1386506191 868249 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: italian design for young urban professionals. we're on surgery here, ight? no
< 1386506269 927109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^styl
< 1386506270 931657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style
< 1386506271 137095 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube
< 1386506477 327353 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose fault is printf's %n?
< 1386506993 101845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is it you?
< 1386506993 790901 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok, thanks. i think
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< 1386507534 862422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn it fungot, why?!
< 1386507535 69624 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: ( probably off somewhere, sacrificing virgins or something like it.
< 1386507543 386690 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1386507569 25390 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: never mind me then. carry on
< 1386507569 308354 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: assumes as posix os in it you need to use
< 1386507612 146984 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
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< 1386508130 450727 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if using evolutionary algorithms on esolang would give good results
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< 1386510156 907482 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a type safe object oriented languag
< 1386510159 168752 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*language
< 1386510168 835175 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that does not even support not-type-safe-stuff
< 1386510173 104501 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm
< 1386510179 804711 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :casting an Object back to a String
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< 1386514088 805946 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ocaml (only 17 years old)
< 1386515260 26292 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-104.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1386515857 931564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :casting an object to a string is not type safe?
< 1386516444 670489 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can a data type be defined just by an array of strings?
< 1386516745 154455 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh did he mean that the object is a string object and it's cast back to the original
< 1386516782 180937 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought like taking an object and getting <object of type 'int' at 0x0192839177389274932>, which i don't think is very dangerous
< 1386516794 622264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or smth
< 1386516857 805532 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the language does not allow operations that looks suspiciously like they are parsing the value from that output
< 1386517585 907515 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hmm!
< 1386517621 430791 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a first-class and class-based system, can first-class classes exist?
< 1386517651 277794 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gee, like smalltalk?
< 1386517671 522222 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kinda
< 1386517691 329334 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah
< 1386517985 567114 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you know
< 1386517986 724091 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :python
< 1386518121 372115 :Halite[tablet]!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lyxpibhmorezjhps PRIVMSG #esoteric :On another topic, I can't tell the difference between prototype based and class based systems anymore
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< 1386519911 527075 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Of course not @Object to String
< 1386519950 736056 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Object could have initially been a UdpConnectionSocket or something else
< 1386520021 409057 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you can prove at compile time that it actually was a String
< 1386520023 839146 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's ok
< 1386520052 775404 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm
< 1386520071 874834 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(String)(Object)new String("foo"); is fine with me
< 1386522040 923570 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-155-41.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386522392 469147 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall learn OCaml
< 1386522394 773796 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks neat
< 1386522854 476318 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386523568 138287 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
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< 1386523920 71501 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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< 1386524115 453364 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, is the baltic called "east sea" in finnish too?
< 1386524179 162816 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1386524321 287988 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow ended up watching soumi on ruotsalainen
< 1386524534 331236 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does OCaml curry like Haskell?
< 1386524914 761043 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: why ocaml and not that other ml-like thing
< 1386525097 7029 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats the other ml-like thing?
< 1386525138 53578 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ur, Ur/Web
< 1386525398 528855 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1386525419 47863 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386525873 898395 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386526276 610974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses the OO features of ocaml
< 1386526286 832201 :ruddy!~ruddy@99-172-22-238.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds
< 1386526322 491236 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-155-41.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No OO caml
< 1386526480 758912 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-104.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386527039 125033 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART :#esoteric
< 1386527695 842364 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ur?
< 1386527776 10532 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uris
< 1386528094 303878 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems p cool man. the guarantees it makes about the web services it creates
< 1386528399 924479 :Sorella`!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386528589 27913 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386528820 721597 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386528864 536887 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1386528865 181539 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1386528865 795697 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1386528866 270658 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1386528924 611066 :SirCmpwn_!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn NICK :SirCmpwn
< 1386529139 290348 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386529181 270315 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest54539
< 1386529651 9159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386529841 319984 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn32-056.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone
< 1386530076 65512 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-49-17.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1386530092 754191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.49.17 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386530156 177688 :Guest54539!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split
< 1386530257 342070 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\
< 1386530476 983869 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386530527 300377 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :Guest77471
< 1386530655 921509 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds
< 1386530741 959621 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-212-50-133-104.psoas.suomi.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1386531174 158273 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@154.5.185.114 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds
< 1386532278 867053 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-155-41.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have eaten way too much aaah
< 1386532303 887783 :Taneb!~Taneb@host-92-30-155-41.as13285.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I'm back in Hexham
< 1386532376 954191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that a warning to Guest77471 to watch out that they don't recognise you by mistake?
< 1386532475 144435 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i have my ping phrases set up to ping on my nick even if it is not currently my nick. perhaps elliott is also so prepared.
< 1386532477 1086 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386532512 952656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have my ping set like that, too, but if someone chooses a name, it's only polite to use it (unless the name is clearly trying to make a mockery of the process)
< 1386532529 450713 :Sorella`!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 NICK :Sorella
< 1386532529 988013 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host
< 1386532530 191082 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386532547 385289 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think that name was chosen. it looks more like a failure to identify.
< 1386534176 994157 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1386534197 365853 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386534403 394335 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@dhcp-206-87-199-85.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386534589 786250 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386534626 21828 :int-e_!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de NICK :int-e
< 1386534648 636227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell b_jonas have a look at https://github.com/int-e/zeckendorf please
< 1386534648 837477 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1386535349 994511 :muskrat!musk@dyn2-85-23-163-23.psoas.suomi.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386535707 716676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.beelinereader.com/ neato
< 1386538130 407075 :Guest77471!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :elliott
< 1386538144 826116 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Changing host
< 1386538145 54483 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386538729 268113 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :welliottcome back
< 1386542116 359417 :SingingBoyo!~kvirc@dhcp-206-87-199-85.ubcsecure.wireless.ubc.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1386542252 799464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> hsep []
< 1386542253 805179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated
< 1386542347 949911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my god, it's full of bugs!
< 1386542636 135407 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in #haskell  <bx> \msg lambdabot Hi
< 1386542757 26149 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds
< 1386542786 95749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386542794 387742 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:4751:9692:922b:34ff:fed8:75d JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386543188 83979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<shachaf> lexande: should i learn about large *dinals and if so how <-- i recommend large testudinals
< 1386543245 369506 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Achievement Unlocked: finally got around to emailing him.
< 1386543245 667437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear you never run out no matter how far down you go
< 1386543517 860562 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and running lambdabot in a cabal sandbox does not really work; I can't tell mueval about the local package db.
< 1386543644 784342 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: there's no environment variable or something?
< 1386543774 667740 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are stardinals?
< 1386543824 344511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who mentioned stardinals.
< 1386543837 837143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.
< 1386543898 320726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: they're wildcardinals hth
< 1386543916 448750 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like
< 1386543917 559249 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thanks, there is GHC_PACKAGE_PATH
< 1386543921 661414 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Vatican gone wild"?
< 1386544047 350598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can see them, romping through the gardens
< 1386544501 801632 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1386544538 106232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386544601 362529 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: naked, fat and wearing funny hats?
< 1386544655 65250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying not to see them quite _that_ clearly, thank you
< 1386544732 296781 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth :)
< 1386544956 601866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :<ais523> Taneb: is that a warning to Guest77471 to watch out that they don't recognise you by mistake? <-- hm does elliott know what Taneb looks like now, with the youtube talk and all
< 1386544964 395410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know
< 1386544972 985416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if e does, that's a terrifying prospect
< 1386544983 566875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i agree with fizzie that he looks unexpectedly normal.
< 1386545072 698539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i think you shall have to wear a mask outdoors while in hexham in the future.  oh wait...
< 1386545244 546384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> hsep []
< 1386545245 549235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated
< 1386545249 60494 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t hsep
< 1386545249 868070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Doc] -> Doc
< 1386545260 226184 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text ""
< 1386545263 990359 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated
< 1386545287 516440 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that would do it i guess.
< 1386545301 481429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait it's simply lambdabot doing that when output is empty?
< 1386545309 947010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var ""
< 1386545314 626765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated
< 1386545316 733258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep.
< 1386545373 616403 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep.
< 1386545474 536559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (text, var)
< 1386545475 362803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(String -> Doc, String -> Expr)
< 1386545578 542734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> vsep $ text <$> ['a'..'c']
< 1386545579 624742 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Not in scope: `vsep'
< 1386545579 819276 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these:
< 1386545579 819436 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   `fsep' (imported f...
< 1386545585 408001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1386545685 973980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> vcat $ text <$> ['a'..'c']
< 1386545687 41008 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :  Couldn't match type `GHC.Types.Char' with `[GHC.Types.Char]'
< 1386545687 238169 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expected type...
< 1386545695 685990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops
< 1386545712 812568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> vcat $ text . return <$> ['a'..'c']
< 1386545713 820937 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :  a
< 1386545714 19967 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : b
< 1386545714 20110 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : c
< 1386545727 583654 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting
< 1386545987 358544 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.138.249 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg
< 1386546392 817168 :doesthiswork!~Adium@98.145.118.186 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1386547015 934069 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric