< 1388188810 171686 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :6. The method of claim 5, where the second process is a process that has been successful in the past. < 1388188841 881121 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :7. The method of claim 1, where the process is chosen based on an analysis of the predicted results of the process. < 1388188873 471933 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8. The method of claim 7, where the analysis involves deductive and/or inductive logic. < 1388188941 522912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok enough we get it < 1388188945 999638 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :9. The method of claim 8, where the logic is used to infer— < 1388188949 262097 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right. < 1388188970 969074 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, yeah, that one typo gives me an idea. < 1388189076 396420 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps by filing a patent on this claim, we could end up with a patent that could be enforced against anything: < 1388189079 147546 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. The method of claim 1. < 1388189707 587135 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the irc log a valid repertory of prior art < 1388189745 564207 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say it probably is, really. < 1388190574 572174 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: is this a real patent? it should be < 1388190616 503568 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Submit it to the patent office and list me as a co-inventor. < 1388191105 370371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a file to download the entire SDL 1.x documentation into my computer? < 1388191364 882042 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388191538 633757 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388191555 733684 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1388195087 278953 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388196029 813549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I live within 50 miles of where half of my great-great grandparents were born < 1388198334 744557 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388198337 270315 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :your family should get out more :P < 1388199842 862491 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388199935 732156 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388200262 38482 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phys.org/news/2012-09-scientists-renowned-uncertainty-principle.html this... doesn't sound likely to be accurate < 1388200281 256998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have more information? < 1388200331 630849 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388200621 597406 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i'm reading it right it's not actually talking about the momentum-position inequality < 1388200707 304874 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=6668117941979885066 anyway, more info for ya < 1388200719 369923 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am unhappy that phys rev lett wants me to sign in just to see citations < 1388200746 904989 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388200797 523110 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: why does anyone even like pg (reading responses to your hacker tweet) < 1388200830 228953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's smart, he understands his industry, and he is very good at pandering to young smart people with no perspective < 1388200834 646495 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"startup gospel" is a terrifying phrase < 1388200838 621115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1388200889 917886 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression of him is mostly from #lisp, because every few weeks a wide-eyed twenty-something comes in and talks about wanting to do everything like pg, and then leaves in a huff when we talk about bad style or whatever stupid thing < 1388200900 760597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1388200906 810489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah his Lisp book is... unorthodox < 1388200910 417371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MACROS FOR EVERYTHING < 1388200916 437402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU GET A MACRO! YOU GET A MACRO! EVERYONE GETS A MACRO! < 1388200927 474666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think even diehard lispers tend to acknowledge that, like, functions are also a p. cool way to abstract < 1388200930 571965 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then they get like, offended when people say that, i may as well be spitting on muhammad < 1388200962 614744 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the first thing people do in lisp (including myself...) is write an assload of worthless macros >_> < 1388200988 153112 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i wrote one to abstract calling web apis, a very function thing < 1388201031 628670 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure my first lisp programs were stateless < 1388201034 800058 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway point is fuck that guy < 1388201058 46223 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :point-free? < 1388201075 622999 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Real Hackers call it pointless < 1388201082 509512 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388201154 306185 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the actual reason i asked is there was a guy talking about how lispers shouldn't use vim, on this tweet about pg being a sexist git, and it's like dude no c'mon < 1388201165 708783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah seriously < 1388201185 996753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i start bashing pg and people are like "yeah he's not a REAL HACKER either! he didn't write enough codez" < 1388201188 975473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-___- < 1388201200 164454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it does seem like emacs gets tailored to lispers more. with lispbox and whatnot < 1388201215 198169 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the point < 1388201233 852772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pointless < 1388201241 112503 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is if i start complaining about hitler's policies re the romani you don't complain about his anti-smoking campaign being ineffective < 1388201274 97782 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitler analogies are so tempting, every time. < 1388201314 785002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you know he could have been revolutionary. think how much better off the germans would have been if they'd started to quit smoking in the 30s! < 1388201341 240020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he also banned tubas and decreased the compensation given to passengers on delayed reichsbahn trains! < 1388201345 95119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :#lessercrimesofthethirdreich < 1388201397 831097 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind < 1388201402 960453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a douche < 1388201420 505624 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, how do you ban tubas < 1388201422 106493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Christ, what an asshole" < 1388201443 423897 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: go around arresting people who play the tuba? how do you ban anything < 1388201483 11686 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to say, hitler was somewhat less nice to his fellow man than he could have been, wouldn't you say? < 1388201497 477494 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :look i'm imagining this and i'm stuck on the idea of a 'tuba control board' a la the dea < 1388201511 689534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler is a jerk, Mussolini is a weenie < 1388201558 840461 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the German name would be 100x better < 1388201567 121377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the GSP could have been sent to break up polka bands and smash the tuba < 1388201570 219375 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very true < 1388201609 163317 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember hearing something interesting slash not a joke about subversive jazz clubs in the reich, maybe they brought in tubas when they really wanted to flip off the powers that be < 1388201611 37652 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i can't find a citation for this < 1388201614 300653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was accordians instead < 1388201635 758236 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what! madness < 1388201661 422711 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tubasteuerkarte < 1388201684 445668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wai < 1388201685 938091 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388201687 798297 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't < 1388201698 461363 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :accordions were the superpopularist < 1388202477 248264 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.4853 looks particularly relevant... maybe < 1388202916 914005 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388203324 52484 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388203583 589537 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I have little idea what that's saying. Is it saying there are things similar to what Heisenberg covers, but their definitions weren't like that of Heisenberg, but this paper redefines stuff to make them match closer? < 1388203615 804977 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me < 1388203623 618068 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i'm pretty sure this isn't about the actual inequality < 1388204644 886731 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388205061 894438 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388205666 477523 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388206029 782846 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388206036 392807 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206127 917784 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388206152 204409 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206177 453603 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1388206180 991846 :mauke_!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke NICK :mauke < 1388206505 913905 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388206596 298247 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388207524 466204 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388207641 957969 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388207663 3253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: y no retweet for "decal of Calvin pissing on that Game of Life glider logo" < 1388207706 863257 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen too many of those with truck brands < 1388208004 526468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the joke, or something < 1388208081 171568 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a trauma < 1388208140 472171 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ok < 1388208265 269063 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calvin and Muad'dib is gone < 1388209830 857099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :current status: http://candyaddict.com/blog/candy_images/meiji_chocorooms.jpg < 1388209867 48642 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hell yea < 1388209894 660471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bottom line: if you think candies that look like mushrooms are irresistibly cute, then Chocorooms are for you." douglass_ is like YEP YEP YEP YEP < 1388210106 870814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are any C compilers supporting functions declared as "extern static"? I think not. < 1388210123 66432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do those mean < 1388210168 946374 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Considering that static means "not exported", to support such a construct would be a direct violation of the C specification. < 1388210215 661934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Yes, that is what I would think. < 1388210237 321538 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some might support having both keywords in a declaration, but it certainly wouldn't actually have both behaviors (since it can't) < 1388210427 612549 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should specify in "Black-C", that it is allow "extern static", inside of a #master ... #endmaster block. If it is given the filename which is currently being compiled, then it is exported, otherwise it is external and always links to the named file, and other than that it acts like it is actually "static", even though it isn't. < 1388210495 543972 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388210603 58379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1388210615 295748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me more about Black-C and #master < 1388210735 727572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example if you write #master "plain.c" and have a bunch of things declared "extern static", they act like static for most purposes but are actually belonging to the file "plain.o" (and name-mangling is applied, only in such a circumstance). One purpose would be to allow implementing run-time type identifications. < 1388210757 286351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/black_c.txt < 1388210826 263106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :long long long < 1388210855 342324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Structures do not have to have any members. Their size is zero if so." this is incompatible with C++ fwiw < 1388210894 991875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a "designated initializer"? < 1388210922 120799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't meant to be compatible with C++. However, that feature is compatible with GNU C. < 1388210938 261572 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is meant to be compatible with C, not C++. < 1388210948 45097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods
< 1388211022 626900 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is describing "designated initializer": http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Designated-Inits.html < 1388211100 759028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that < 1388211103 713086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1388211154 230422 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int whitespace[256] = { [' '] = 1, ['\t'] = 1, ['\h'] = 1, ['\f'] = 1, ['\n'] = 1, ['\r'] = 1 }; < 1388211360 106530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, like that, too. < 1388211746 466909 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i see people store boolean values in ints like that a lot in C < 1388211803 973122 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that usually a waste of space? why not store boolean values in chars and have them take up only one byte, guaranteed? < 1388211806 95078 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a distinct boolean type, so... < 1388211813 958652 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1388211897 730499 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a bitfield, so it's one bit per, not one byte. < 1388211912 609796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tisn't < 1388211924 812308 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bietfield conspiracy < 1388211925 145977 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think people don't like char for function parameters because in the dark ages there were no function prototypes, so the chars would get embiggened to ints anyway < 1388211938 623331 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't explain storing ints in an array like that < 1388211947 178821 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, derp, misread that, never mind. < 1388211948 488221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that would be considered bad style yeah < 1388211953 786141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though on some machines it might be significantly faster < 1388211956 69289 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.112.9 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388211959 949320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it depends on your constraints < 1388212224 660206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it is good since then you can access it in a more easily kind of way, and yes since it can be faster, too < 1388212232 977426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't consider it bad style < 1388212297 739066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be slower, too < 1388212351 669523 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, depending what you are doing. < 1388213081 797968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isup.me/downforeveryoneorjustme.com < 1388213086 403474 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just so wrong < 1388213135 35609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo............................................................................................ < 1388213190 914165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, it's completely impossible for DNS to get screwed up so that downforeveryoneorjustme.com stops working but isup.me doesn't? < 1388213232 47500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote domain name system < 1388213233 432749 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :982) ok im sober now and DNS makes sense again [...] Domain Name System [...] ♫ domain name system ♫ < 1388213387 787426 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388213449 443256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388214117 116246 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388214207 832775 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.eff.org/document/quantum-surveillance-familiar-actors-and-possible-false-flags-syrian-malware-campaigns who needs crypto < 1388214279 238362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a kid getting beheaded on slide 9 D: < 1388214341 702591 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah there's warnings < 1388214361 434016 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably shouldn't be in a position to compare and contrast that with the heart-eater video, but here i am < 1388214370 443711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: D: D: < 1388214730 263949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trebuchets and heart eating < 1388214740 881483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :old forms of warfare never fully die out do they < 1388214750 138327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also iran & iraq bringing back trenches and poison gas in the 80s < 1388214766 7859 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was actually a liver, iirc, they just marketed it as a heart < 1388214773 691971 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating livers just doesn't shock the people any more < 1388214790 86827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez if you can't trust the guy eating human organs who can you trust anymore < 1388214790 308140 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt. jihadists aren't good at anatomy < 1388214805 902972 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i, personally, once mistook a bird's testicles for its lungs < 1388214812 691801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating carnivore livers is supposed to be pretty bad for you < 1388214821 315405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know if humans eat enough meat for that to be an issue < 1388214825 478091 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just sort of nibbled it, really. < 1388214837 138017 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm uh, probably shouldn't go into /too/ much detail here huh < 1388214839 966941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: https://twitter.com/miuaf/status/416802172295053312 < 1388214863 505560 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :humans are omnivores. i'd expect human liver to be (pathogen risk aside) much much safer than polar bear liver. < 1388214914 420371 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: there are some advantages to living down the street from a butcher < 1388214929 219097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are three or four specialty meat shops near me < 1388214965 393927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as places like Low Cost Carnicería < 1388214968 912575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it Lo Cost? < 1388215006 492634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's Low Cost Carnicería not to be confused with Lo-Cost Meat Market < 1388215335 385844 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there also a Locust < 1388215411 945097 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388215440 513877 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locust is no longer a popular meat. < 1388215450 150104 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame, really < 1388215474 651095 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also locusts, technically, are not reliably available, as they are only the swarming phase of the insect's life cycle. < 1388215492 432149 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The non-swarming phase is an inoffensive grasshopper or crickety thing that looks totally different. < 1388215503 467933 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! someone actually knows that! i love you. < 1388215518 941665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty easy to find in, like, madagascar though >_> < 1388215523 232573 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some locust species that may or may not be extinct, and we don't know because maybe they just haven't swarmed in the past hundred years. < 1388215548 303099 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read about one in the Great Plains or maybe CO, forget the details) < 1388215548 491311 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hacked Minecraft Overviewer to render from the center outwards instead of from the top left corner. An interrupted render that demonstrates it: http://heh.fi/tmp/minecraft-test/#/74/64/-184/-6/0/0 < 1388215564 151883 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it was somewhere in the western US < 1388215574 236891 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: did you read The Locusts by Niven and Barnes < 1388215579 508180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a p. strange short story < 1388215581 659172 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of reminded me of the lilac-smelling worms around here that we thought were extinct for fifty years < 1388215671 891170 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :WP says "Prior to its rediscovery in 2010, the worm was believed to give off a scent similar to that of the lily flower when handled[2] and that it was able to spit in self-defense;[3] however, the specimens captured did not exhibit these capabilities.[5]" < 1388215687 442464 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lily, lilac, w/e >_> < 1388215758 289657 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not read that story < 1388215790 895639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :me either < 1388215911 470429 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try cricket sometime though. < 1388215943 40835 :douglass_!~iridium@dr-wily.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually when I try some weird thing that I've been pondering and avoiding for years it turns out pretty good. Like corn smut. < 1388216004 963804 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/16288 this is what almost any talk about neural networks looks like < 1388216023 377125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JAVA < 1388216500 416748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up programming languages on Urban Dictionary
< 1388216614 702241 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Praising Java for fitting on many platforms is like praising anal sex for fitting both sexes." see, < 1388216621 91040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these both seem like reasonable points to me. < 1388216945 294633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :better replace that definition with a fictional sex position < 1388216977 283115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one involving coffee < 1388217019 286282 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_enema < 1388217020 387930 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there's a good joke to be made about coffee, duality, and sex work < 1388217036 620555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ineffective_cancer_treatments < 1388217108 672698 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i think 'coffee' 'enema' may be even higher on my 'why are these juxtaposed' list than 'decerebrate cat' 'anal sphincter' < 1388217169 645844 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a popular medical system devised by Ryke Geerd Hamer (1935 – ), in which all disease is seen as deriving from emotional shock, and mainstream medicine is regarded as a conspiracy promulgated by Jews" < 1388217206 176167 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cool how on their faces it's hard to negatively compare these to 'tiny invisible animals are in your gut' < 1388217294 660956 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388217300 267487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tiny invisible jews < 1388217357 655789 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot of my steampunk time travel novel < 1388217428 444431 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an alternative medicine regime promoted by Hulda Regehr Clark (1928–2009), who (before her death from cancer) claimed it could cure many human diseases, including cancer" this is just sad. < 1388217659 878413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then she was probably wrong, if it didn't work for her. < 1388217693 472216 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible < 1388218285 870450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :37-39 < 1388218293 709257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't supposed to say that. < 1388218332 114193 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1388218333 370533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 37 - 39 < 1388218334 572917 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : -2 < 1388218337 678782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hizzie < 1388218354 888474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IRC input line is just too convenient for ephemeral notes. < 1388218423 569143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also uh kellmc no that does not work < 1388218441 383729 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the middle? innovative. < 1388218483 616314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hekmco, perhaps. < 1388218615 306929 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388218935 857110 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388219208 892031 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goin' to sleep < 1388219210 261470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1388220503 86786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388221342 389586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind <-- i see no contradiction between the two substatements. although admittedly shakespeare does not seem to turn up in several pages of the google hits. (björk does.) < 1388221380 82165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell bike i thought "there is more to life than this" was from shakespeare or something but it turns out to be the name of a self-help book by a spirit talker, so, nevermind <-- i see no contradiction between the two substatements. although admittedly shakespeare does not seem to turn up in several pages of the google hits. (björk does.) < 1388221380 270267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221473 81617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell bike trying to add shakespeare just gives the "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." quote < 1388221473 309694 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221640 280685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Tubasteuerkarte <-- i have a hunch "Karte" is the wrong kind of board here. < 1388221640 468847 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221857 765776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Anyway a little experimentation in google translate finds the _clearly_ proper term: Tubaüberwachungsausschuß < 1388221857 993796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388221877 14446 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1388221985 420816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia supposedly s/ß/ss/ nowadays, but we're talking the third Reich here. < 1388221985 609129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388222037 948231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Sie ist seit der Reform von 1996 nicht mehr korrekt. ;_; < 1388222038 136268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388222951 509548 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388225023 885527 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ss, yeah < 1388225059 431308 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ß replaces ss when preceeded by a long vowel. < 1388225065 501375 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays. < 1388226725 861093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388227467 386286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :aßhole < 1388228360 84301 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ſ/ß/ss/ < 1388228513 708586 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess ß/A/B/ is NOP? < 1388228943 328629 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388229767 879042 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388229865 898414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388230509 876947 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388230971 686717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a great idea recently < 1388230994 404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know how git produces long, meaningless hashes to name commits, which is much more complex than just using revision numbers? < 1388231003 925907 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-042.rz.hs-offenburg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388231011 413305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how it typically expresses them as abbreviated hashes, that only contain the first seven nybbles? < 1388231047 394818 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, we need a rebase-like command that renumbers all the commits to have abbreviated hashes starting 0000001, 0000002, 0000003, etc. in order < 1388231063 419455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the range of 7 nybbles is approximately 0 to 250 million < 1388231072 233684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably in the range of what a modern computer can bruteforce < 1388231078 375521 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who’s the authority on revision numbers in a distributed setting? < 1388231091 945805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's like BASIC < 1388231097 43372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just renumber it whenever you feel like it < 1388231112 321639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone can be their own authority < 1388231143 148180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as you do your changes via changing metadata, git's duplicated-tree detector will remove most of the bad effects of the changes in hashes < 1388231222 731036 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388231227 76340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway this is a terrible idea < 1388231237 850932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to bring it up because this is a good channel to air terrible ideas in < 1388231254 817160 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388231670 846256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideas great and terrible, check < 1388233303 496226 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1388234447 948819 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234469 149018 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1388234469 337256 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: or just eat veggies which takes more planning < 1388234478 854402 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, or that < 1388234569 641311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: but veggies are satanic, i just saw it on youtube! < 1388234574 654388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sentence almost looked sensible until I tried to read it < 1388234674 852518 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234713 205651 :Sorella!~quildreen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388234713 393786 :Sorella!~quildreen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388234792 252855 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think it should be "take more planning", since veggies is plural < 1388234820 58226 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar, fungot... grammar and s:es < 1388234820 334982 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: tu mama esta fnord en fnord fnord ollenkaan, ko mie fnord mennä fnord. fnord < 1388234876 550226 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the which could refer to the eating of vegetables? < 1388234912 110864 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or just eat your vegetables, which, admittedly, takes more planning. < 1388234934 106302 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388234995 518823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually eating vegetables takes a surprising amount of planning right now < 1388235011 368438 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they don't store very long and the supermarkets seem low on stock post-Christmas < 1388235026 719938 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's what fungot meant < 1388235026 979241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: have you ever been to europe? what kind? what's it supposed to run for food... will show code after the if statement < 1388235055 756425 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly relevant < 1388235073 862249 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i actually just visited my home 0 moments ago. (and france last week.) < 1388235119 751686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, fungot brought back bad memories of being unable to find food I could eat in France < 1388235119 954286 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eval ( !-inf)) will just put the traveling ip to sleep < 1388235140 509292 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was that hard? < 1388235142 541317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d\n", !-(1.0/0.0)); < 1388235148 916612 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1388235163 611617 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because I have some dietary restrictions and pretty much everything in the supermarket either violated them, or needed some sort of utensil to prepare < 1388235165 23854 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you are a veggieist, given your three last messages except the last < 1388235167 293849 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which weren't available in my hotel room < 1388235183 657319 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not actually vegetarian, but I have a similarly restrictive diet < 1388235223 629303 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of luls, religion or physiology? < 1388235229 438546 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I was younger, I basically had to eat generic food paste until they figured out what I could eat or not < 1388235232 48455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so physiology < 1388235255 22967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, the doctor said something along the lines of "you can tell if someone needs that stuff by whether they can tolerate eating it") < 1388235268 705655 :Guest60043!~sea@119.154.111.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388235345 788198 :Guest60043!~sea@119.154.111.94 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388235350 720427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although perhaps sensibly, they started testing cereals first, having rice and oats to fall back on helps a lot (also wheat and potatoes are almost perfectly OK too) < 1388235392 859474 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1388235396 747964 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had no idea < 1388235409 579041 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in sweden you can find pickled potatoes that are ready to eat < 1388235412 652205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually most things turned out to be OK < 1388235421 794920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even more are OK in small quantities < 1388235426 82805 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't take much concentration nowadays < 1388235457 683158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most commonly occurring problem is with milk/cheese (milk is OK in small quantities, especially if cooked, but causes trouble if there are a lot; cheese is worse) < 1388235470 709889 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I had to stop eating the croissants after a while because they were made with too much butter < 1388235596 346212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My uncle as a gluten not-allergy-but-kind-of-like-an-allergy-we-have-no-idea-what-it-actually-is < 1388235740 711965 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of relevant < 1388235744 446304 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normal gluten "allergy" is just intolerance, iirc < 1388235755 299362 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, his is actually a mystery < 1388235766 914236 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@vpn35-042.rz.hs-offenburg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388235772 821776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I have intolerances, rather than allergies < 1388235774 172331 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were all mysterious, but there may be several different kinds anyway < 1388235798 190162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference being a) it's much more quantity-dependent than with allergies; b) it's less likely to be life-threatening if you screw up < 1388236004 722115 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-30-45.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388236323 689732 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only ate kebab in france < 1388236369 948016 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean like döner < 1388236383 632936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an umlaut on that in French/Finnish? < 1388236397 194889 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish it's called kebab < 1388236411 169154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean döner < 1388236412 108486 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i know there's an umlaut in germany where that word is used < 1388236422 468920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no "döner" in finland < 1388236424 478212 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :When someone says "kebab" to me I still think shish kebab < 1388236430 268640 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in france i think it was called kebab < 1388236431 193908 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because we sometimes make them at home < 1388236442 819005 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but americans mean something else by that < 1388236467 851275 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess shish kebab < 1388236496 254873 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what it's called in america but maybe doner then? uk i have no idea about < 1388236513 716391 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't even know if they have that in the us) < 1388236544 163900 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in finland i haven't seen shish kebab anywhere < 1388236554 688424 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388236599 336651 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: we have both doner and shish in the UK, but no accents < 1388236608 153531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't eat kebabs so I have no idea what the difference is, if any < 1388236621 637059 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think most people think of doner first < 1388236668 783892 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik shish kebab is meat on a stick, and doner is meat between two loaves of bread (so in some sense in the hamburger family, although looks and tastes very different) < 1388236702 918206 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has to be fried to be a kebab? < 1388236703 339679 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think doner refers to the spinning blob of meat that the kebab is cut from < 1388236724 449855 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i have had discussions with americans about kebab and they never work very well < 1388236733 644575 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it comes from the turkish word for spinning, says wikipedia) < 1388236742 630748 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc kebab means something like cow? < 1388236758 383770 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like beef < 1388236853 930528 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In American English, kebab with no qualification refers to shish kebab (Turkish: şiş kebap) cooked on a skewer,[1] whereas in Europe it refers to doner kebab, sliced meat served in a pita. < 1388236951 302313 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :k probably not, but i seem to recall something meant something funny or surprising in some language. < 1388236964 839223 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-157.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388236970 979772 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to Sevan Nişanyan, an etymologist of Turkish language, kebab is derived from the Arabic word "kabab" meaning "fry". < 1388237014 669630 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally decided to read the next sentence
< 1388237197 941660 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388237366 838176 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-157.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388237715 916179 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238207 929502 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238226 304040 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388238323 224425 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388239553 976477 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388239645 988405 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is there anything like scanf in Rust? < 1388239679 665940 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388240016 283600 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, I'm not kmc but I know there is no such thing, I needed to write my own scanner routine myself < 1388240025 645551 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388240029 854308 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1388240075 661194 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lifthrasiir-is-alive morning! < 1388240655 880404 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388243125 958285 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388245006 914927 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388245346 313891 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388245498 612825 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1388245510 836873 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good kmorningc. < 1388245628 821574 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: good investment opportunity! /r/dogecoin is the subreddit of the day! < 1388245685 870956 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388246238 163310 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388246622 539742 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388247023 399146 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll make altgr+g into dead greek < 1388247038 285289 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I can't find a greek shift or greek lock < 1388247053 377561 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guten morgen. < 1388247059 466304 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke < 1388247112 350357 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think you need something more forceful than a poke in order to grab his attention. < 1388247116 747298 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends his mapole to Taneb
< 1388247133 446043 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke with a maypole < 1388247186 261690 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388247321 807607 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. doesn't work. < 1388247336 465208 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lends Taneb a depleted-oak warhead mapole
< 1388247368 93297 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, poke with a depleted-oak warhead maypole < 1388247450 197053 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388247549 342056 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: what are you messing with+ < 1388247551 497058 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :?* < 1388247551 695546 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1388247553 317824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola < 1388247569 53912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There's also the issue that it's hard to carry a dead deer on a bicycle." -- douglass_ < 1388247623 664993 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I want to try and read two ints separated with a space from stdin. How do I go about that in Rust? < 1388247631 910238 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot answers to “v”? < 1388247656 931266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... don't do much IO < 1388247667 143767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask irc.mozilla.org #rust < 1388247700 16484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I literally understand how to make HTTP requests and draw with OpenGL but not how to read two ints < 1388247716 126316 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388247868 486956 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaah I am not used to having a bouncer < 1388247880 406282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how to connect to a new server through my bouncer < 1388248058 342720 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there we go < 1388248657 364925 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I want to be able to write greek characters < 1388248663 847175 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as alpha or mu < 1388248668 410287 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I can already write mu < 1388248804 614817 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: with xkb you can abuse having a second Group and use ISO_Group_Latch to shift between them < 1388248818 301383 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I do: https://bitbucket.org/firefly/dotfiles/src/tip/xkb/firefly.symbols?at=default < 1388248873 342525 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :See lines 29 and 126-156 < 1388248949 54339 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could work too, but is more work than making altgr+g be dead_greek < 1388248961 882049 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I probably won't be needing to write more than one greek symbol at once < 1388248993 931508 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice keyboard diagram < 1388249048 40646 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pbzgotzvmglozali QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388249078 201807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1388249255 955004 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzpwunpznktymilr JOIN :#esoteric < 1388249342 124783 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: woah. that is some intense keyboarding you got there! how do you compile and use it? < 1388249495 245519 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just have /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/firefly symlink'd to it and configure my layout as 'firefly' < 1388249609 300010 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf I have 'Option "XkbLayout" "firefly"' < 1388249761 745642 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shamelessly set my keyboard layout in .xinitrc >_>'... < 1388249795 767175 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388249935 454838 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh. it isn't C. it's a special format. no compilation necessary.) < 1388250003 102489 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a poorly-documented special format < 1388250011 950685 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1388250016 750020 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/xkb.html is basically what I've found on it < 1388250079 394522 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388250124 390247 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I suppose that the first xkb_symbols block declared in the file is the one you get by entering “setxkbmap ”, and that you get the other blocks with “setxkbmap -variant ”. < 1388250154 555102 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or, maybe “default partial” means something. you never know.) < 1388250890 159928 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial means that it's not defining a full layout, but only part of one (like, only the numpad area or only the letter keys or something) < 1388250903 647796 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember if default was honoured or if it always took the first oe < 1388250905 254248 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :one* < 1388252803 516833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make altgr+g into dead greek" very philosophical. < 1388252814 955951 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The joke is there are lots of dead Greek philosophers.) < 1388252973 771795 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn αλτγρ+γ is the national dead pastry of Greece. Goes great with a glass of ouzo! < 1388252979 253408 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1388252993 6718 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, let's see if I can latexify it... < 1388253000 796326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Which kind of a bounc-o-matic you chose? < 1388253005 89455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just curious.) < 1388253041 740550 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ZNC < 1388253047 274274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hokay. < 1388253296 461317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I just came from the 60-year birthday party of my wife's father, and there was a (quasi-)Famous Band there, it was kind of surprising. People were surprised. (Not, like, famous famous, just sort of middlingly famous, I guess. The "50k twitter followers" kind of famous.) < 1388253383 58558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that's how it's measured these days.) < 1388253588 973019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would someone design an application, that requires network connectivy to close it < 1388253607 624207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you have to restart it, when it lost connectivity < 1388254203 840610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have a workplace overlooking the st. lawrence seaway < 1388254215 49078 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388254220 153046 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388254303 421591 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: tell me a joke < 1388254379 160767 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan you don't have to use this to send me messages. i'm always in here and pings are recorded when i'm away. not that telling you this will stop you from annoying me with lambdabot messages. < 1388254379 362375 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388254452 801193 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no. yes. < 1388254453 188107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell quintopia Now you're just asking for it. < 1388254453 392240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1388254604 403750 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: here is a dadjoke while I try to remember a better one: He broke this one out when teaching me about tools. // "Okay, so this is the screwdriver, this is the wrenche, and this, well, you know the drill." < 1388254666 95348 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily's dad joke level just increased. < 1388254864 788224 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: here is a Canadian joke: Tim Horton, famous hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs, and founder of the wildly famous donut and coffee store; Tim Hortons. One day he was driving through the streets of St. Catharines Ontario extremly drunk. He went under the lake St. Overpass at around 150Kmh in his car and hit a support column. He and his car were obliterated. To this day, you can still find < 1388254866 804455 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tim-Bits everywhere. < 1388255229 307173 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: some day, I'll be a dad. when my kids will misbehave, I'll scold them with Bad Monad Tutorials. < 1388255245 296338 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are going to kill those kids. < 1388255258 599551 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's taking it too far. < 1388255261 202544 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255270 633252 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should scold them by quoting fungot instead < 1388255271 141627 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: also every time the named let so you can use !whatever, where the number of characters < 1388255293 936391 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: that's not terribly threatening though < 1388255294 255501 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: and how can the histogram of integer sizes have so many hits per page, if it is used for quite a while back, < 1388255401 916410 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388255418 313393 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255485 380405 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see myself saying “HOW CAN THE HISTOGRAM OF INTEGER SIZES HAVE SO MANY HITS PER PAGE!” in a stern voice. that'll surely teach them. < 1388255600 9083 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388255680 536282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1388255680 738696 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1388255683 397282 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-86-192.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388255689 576873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Can that sword alone stop boily's kids from misbehaving? < 1388255689 782599 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: in the middle ages, sir slush!... you're gaspar, the guru of time! get moving! behold! the rainbow shell! < 1388255711 277377 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388255730 678846 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please answer your Creator. it's the least of the courtesies. < 1388255730 876088 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: these unique items make us invincible! < 1388255746 321610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That's just a direct quote. < 1388255746 520460 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! sorry, fellas! i'm empty! this must be the invention. hope it still leaves you hungry! here you are the only one thing we need to defeat a monster that roams the inner earth, absorbing the land's power and growing ever stronger the resemblance...uncanny! you guys leaving! < 1388255827 217316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hope it still leaves you hungry!" what a nice sentiment. < 1388255931 859198 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-35-7.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388255974 913714 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388256063 2346 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388256137 396852 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388256321 742558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can fizzie live on bread alone? < 1388256322 122392 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, it's been awhile prometheus! go!! what about me. they just might be the one to bring back lost loved ones... it's what that guy in medina, a village near the mystic mountain" 65,000,000 b. c.? yes, i'd have done something very brave! he's probably up north, to guardia!!! let's toast our land! now we'll have some peace! magus is a tad on the spooky side. our only hope. < 1388256334 720095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow boring say something new < 1388256344 954330 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1388256345 153528 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1388256353 12225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :speeches < 1388256356 798606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style speeches < 1388256357 4364 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: speeches (misc. speeches from Project Gutenberg) < 1388256385 181511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not that much data in the ct style. < 1388256389 965768 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: let's play the speech recognition game < 1388256390 594259 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: when i appeared before a committee of twenty-one members should be given to the lecture platform and tell all about it. < 1388256399 569856 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is an expert < 1388256427 965456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I AM TALKING VERY SLOWLY AND CLEARLY CAN YOU UNDERSTAND ME < 1388256428 584802 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it suggests melancholy reflections, in consequence of any law or regulation therein be discharged from the exercise of that profession is, that he remained through his whole career will not be adequately remunerated if he is to answer on the part of the subject? he is, wrote only one letter to the clergy?" < 1388256446 481089 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fizzie you have to recognize fungot's speeches < 1388256446 680650 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ii. to constituents. ( arbroath, october 21, 1907) < 1388256469 935283 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, spoilsport < 1388256489 404366 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I think that last one was that one from Arbroath, October 21, 1907. < 1388256507 350666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember what went into "speeches". < 1388256618 982855 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you have the raw files laying around? < 1388256684 961216 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or lieing. I can't remember for the fungot of me what is the correct verb. < 1388256685 202252 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: from a letter to wm. h. rogers by the business men of norfolk, fnord. power, etc. < 1388256705 895985 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord. power. ayn rand. fungot. rogers. < 1388256706 315847 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " still as you rise, the state of missouri. i have not received more than i deserve, is this a sort of fnord, brought into the house of commons < 1388256717 704832 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The around-laying is a lie < 1388256746 71389 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fnord, in the house of commons?! < 1388256746 433574 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: but in the place of your retiring president. i shall be surprised to hear the judge, as i have told you what he knows. we have regulated that which we should be affected with anything, he must go a hundred and fifty years ago all roads in new england who still continued to face the facts. < 1388258870 107357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388258969 480147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-flood < 1388258969 720719 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia said 1h 16m 30s ago: you don't have to use this to send me messages. i'm always in here and pings are recorded when i'm away. not that telling you this will stop you from annoying me with lambdabot messages. < 1388258995 292396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: depends on if i can remember it. < 1388259195 341751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't trust people in general to check whether they've had pings. < 1388259267 533661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also i have a bit of ocp?d about information getting lost. < 1388259617 845572 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ocd < 1388259618 574347 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocd definition: obsessive-compulsive disorder. < 1388259736 492423 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck fomo < 1388259736 997063 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388259740 374623 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck FOMO < 1388259740 948995 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1388259752 109411 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fomo < 1388259837 865445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1388260003 401709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc, poke with a depleted-oak warhead maypole <-- * oerjan smells an evil autocorrect < 1388260234 945940 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a joek. < 1388260256 955137 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines a fantasy battlescape, where the Chimæric Words struggle against the Evil Autocorrectians
< 1388260280 136836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION throws Bike in gaol
< 1388260282 881515 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: horatio is what i was thinking of anyway < 1388260293 604026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1388260363 847843 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so deep. < 1388260824 864371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ++ < 1388260827 271605 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002B PLUS SIGN] [U+002B PLUS SIGN] < 1388260843 347294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lolmythesis.com/ < 1388260847 760152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow they looked different in my browser. < 1388260852 202945 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good blog < 1388260893 802358 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Built software development tools for an alternate reality that forked off in 1980." hey, it's sgeo < 1388260931 8306 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of wish they'd link the actual paper but i guess that fucks with anonymity and also noone reads theses < 1388260940 32987 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys think we can spot fizzie's thesis in there? < 1388260957 276086 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rats like cocaine", i bet < 1388260986 355604 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what are you working on, again? < 1388261005 743203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also all PL research < 1388261041 856083 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Anselm’s ontological proof for God’s existence completely fails because he literally didn’t understand basic grammar." < 1388261051 46690 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1388261110 867664 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grammar is the problem? < 1388261112 278803 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Lasers make really pretty shit when you pass them through funky glass. Also, chemistry makes pretty colors.” ← sounds a lot like my bro's internship. < 1388261194 898298 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can’t understand what hillly cities look like in two dimensions. < 1388261242 202864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh I think I forgot to respond to your poke, what was it? < 1388261270 530512 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooh! one from Université du Québec à Montréal! “Money is a much more complicated thing than you think it is and the modern financial system is in the process of screwing it real good.” < 1388261274 48986 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Brain cells are really cool. Zebrafish. People have schizophrenia. Count ALL THE THINGS. Cell death. Fish death. STERILE! Significance. Yeah." see now we're talking < 1388261314 741084 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Also, 10 nanometers sounds really big now" < 1388261466 896116 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the one about tricky meditation. I think I can pull that one off in our next RPG campaign. :D < 1388261574 617256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tricky meditation? < 1388261597 166431 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: “If you want to trick someone into meditating, all you have to do is turn the lights completely off, suspend their body, and get them to DJ ambient sounds using their breath.” < 1388261642 348181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Would they need to know DJ? < 1388261656 788313 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388261669 71244 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we should all spend ages investigating a phenomenon in a non ecologically valid manner and then conclude that we found out nothing about it" there's a half-decent chance i know who submitted this one... < 1388261712 731168 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: minor detail. I'll wing it over either a fortitude or a nature check. yeah. probably going to go with the nature check. < 1388261715 294129 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Reech specognition. < 1388261777 480296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: OK < 1388261779 532918 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that one sounds like a mahjong declaration... < 1388261819 580422 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: as long as I entertain the GM, and can write something nonsensical in the Journals, it'll slide like a hot knife in a pound of yak butter. < 1388261828 598492 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: And I lost a couple of them datasets that went into fungot accidentally. Some I still have. < 1388261828 857170 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: orestes, the greek highwayman. the crimes were not all the safeguards of liberty known in civilized and humane jurisprudence to be introduced, so that before i got started. it takes a genius in compression to compact as many facts as that. < 1388261893 402966 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: very misfortune. such disgrace. < 1388261893 967832 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: caesar lifted his head at the salutation. his air of deep abstraction fnord and he found one which united all that was stately and venerable in the antique manners, without fnord is of immemorial antiquity among us. it does not break down or derange the scheme of bringing our court to a resemblance to the neighbouring monarchies, it was not in the inns of court and in the unfettered exercise of their own mother tongue, t < 1388261911 949288 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1388261912 583660 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches* ss wp youtube < 1388261915 853157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1388261916 59300 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1388261943 326702 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"p > 0.05" < 1388261962 247040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or lieing. I can't remember for the fungot of me what is the correct verb. <-- i suspect "lying" hth < 1388261962 603505 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: probably nothing like what you may have been due to these flaws i will not implement fnord do not fnord on this < 1388261990 91538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Write something nonsensical in the Journals? < 1388261993 542164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i will not implement fnord do not fnord on this" is a good motto to live by. < 1388262052 178654 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm the Secretary of Our Campaigns, writing down everything Stupid we do, in a... uhm... deconstructed manner. < 1388262056 734012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord not lest you be fnorded < 1388262145 91116 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: O, OK. Well, in the D&D game I am in, I type everything, even if it isn't stupid. < 1388262188 908686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I also record the character sheets) < 1388262231 943995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I try to be sufficiently accurate so if I made some mistake anyone can notice, I should fix it. < 1388262268 168454 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if only one person can notice it? < 1388262305 150018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It doesn't matter as long as they can tell me about it. < 1388262316 398657 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FNORD! < 1388262316 599741 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think I sent you some character sheets some time ago, didn't I? < 1388262316 809384 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it's not a mistake. < 1388262335 347238 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, 2 minute lag. interesting effect in the logs...) < 1388262375 317610 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I think you may have done, but I didn't keep the copy. < 1388262439 863517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you keep on computer and print it out, or synchronize the copy in the computer with the paper like I did instead? < 1388262472 985768 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeeeeeh... my GM and/or another player does that. < 1388262545 738683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I need to fix the macro file so that it will split the spell levels into multiple rows if necessary, which it is. < 1388263136 800162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I realized I also failed to mention how many 5th-level slots I have. < 1388264076 473378 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Too much weather to explain in just nine words--maybe in twelve--nope, not even in seventeen." < 1388264097 481045 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only segment of The Onion that I really dislike are the audio reports < 1388264329 776946 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42866.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388264390 696493 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone badly needs our help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20817113/how-to-read-character-in-whitespace-language < 1388264509 541375 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell compiler 5.02??? < 1388264518 781620 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one might guess that stackoverflow doesn't handle tabs well. < 1388264553 853285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I improved the page layout for the character sheets now. < 1388264583 709720 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a better haskell implementation now? < 1388264599 190262 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I looked at the whitespace interpreter, it used lists for *everything* < 1388264603 927776 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well it's the one the implementation is mentioned to work with... < 1388264606 370951 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmaukello. < 1388264613 850459 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :opcodes? list. < 1388264617 443138 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, but... GHC 7.6? < 1388264618 224939 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :stacks? list. < 1388264627 769579 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamic memory? list. < 1388264649 564790 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it used integer indices for everything, so just stepping through the opcodes was O(n²) < 1388264659 613730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: with the way ghc has changed the current ghc might very well not compile whitespace. not that i've tested. < 1388264698 509943 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh. as in, directly compiling whitespace with no haskell intermediary? < 1388264729 495467 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: i do not suspect efficiency was a major consideration. < 1388264743 4979 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but the code really was stupidly slow < 1388264765 996583 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :it made solving spoj.pl exercises in whitespace close to impossible < 1388264851 927369 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: ok lists and indexing is of course stupid. < 1388264942 672964 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :so anyway, I wrote an assembler/disassembler and a (still stupid but hella) faster interpreter < 1388264999 550507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link < 1388265042 418057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can add it to esolang. < 1388265087 971715 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: did someone `relcome you yet? < 1388265101 285993 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: probably. was that the one with colors? < 1388265162 208607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wikipedia has a nice github link < 1388265176 680872 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: if you identify `relcomming with colours, then yes. < 1388265191 989998 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/whitespace/ but that's not a permanent link < 1388265282 228414 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: is yours in the github collection? i added that instead. < 1388265313 795957 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what github collection? < 1388265320 715221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting too good at this social media thing < 1388265323 846773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/hostilefork/whitespacers/ < 1388265325 373646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't trust my opinions if they're too popular < 1388265391 536099 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's not in there < 1388265392 588076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: oh. as in, directly compiling whitespace with no haskell intermediary? <-- no, as in compiling the whitespace interpreter < 1388265480 688691 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beuh. I am disappoint. < 1388265508 749567 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: how would you rate your own trustiness on the Fungot-Ørjan scale? < 1388265512 421598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from 2003 and seems to be plain haskell 98. < 1388265538 569855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, i'm on the opposite side of fungot? < 1388265538 851983 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: though i admit it's not exactly quoted, but very important, i've just been trying to find < 1388265558 801236 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you heard of a man called markov? < 1388265559 36095 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: telnet irc.freenode.net 6667 -c unlambda blah blah blah < 1388265611 419443 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: fungot is kinda the mascot of the channel. < 1388265611 623314 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i suggest c and/ or < 1388265622 354055 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: also c, according to it. < 1388265683 559502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i am not convinced that telnet command works. < 1388265683 824230 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: context fnord input); fnord fnord dove fog. < 1388265708 274866 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: print STDOUT q / Just another Perl hacker, / unless $spring < 1388265708 471811 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: come on! < 1388265757 323542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you see the fnords? < 1388265757 574285 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm not voicing a concern, i wouldn't try to psychoanalyze you all the answers! < 1388265844 757922 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: as you can see, the bot is strangely sentient. < 1388265934 648012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: thanks, I hate it when people do that < 1388265934 879241 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: fnord not mainstream programs? :) i use the precise gc do better? i want to < 1388266060 678700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that store function is something to behold. < 1388266464 501182 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388266764 920384 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388266817 782046 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388267296 61092 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, fizzie you there? You have some ffmpeg-fu right? < 1388267305 318343 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: FOOOOOOOOD! < 1388267314 465169 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388267365 212399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done some things with it, but maybe "-fu" is overstating things. < 1388267387 159231 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically have a single large music file (mp3) and a list of timecodes and want to split the file at those time codes. < 1388267403 344297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have Debian so not really real ffmepg < 1388267412 782270 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but avcode or whatever it is called < 1388267432 531019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"avconv", and I'm not entirely sure you can convince avconv to do it losslessly. < 1388267442 512287 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you do it with ffmpeg? < 1388267453 969469 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could build the real deal if that is required < 1388267480 771985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't really differ all that much. And it's possible it's smart enough to do it, I'm just not quite sure. < 1388267621 225834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be something like avconv -ss 123 -t 42 -i input.mp3 -codec copy output.mp3 to take a snippet of 42 seconds starting at 123 seconds in. < 1388267631 417044 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah I forgot, I built ffmpeg into ~/local/ffmpeg some time ago < 1388267636 642203 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I do have the real deal < 1388267683 294297 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Ah, so time to write a program to compute a time code like 1:20:23:41 Start of this section\n1:21:... and turn it into that < 1388267692 356962 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python script time! < 1388267706 309121 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both arguments can take 1:2:3.4 hour:minute:second.fraction formats. < 1388267720 65713 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you would still need to compute the duration between two timestamps.) < 1388267724 910453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1388267728 953381 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So still needs a script < 1388267758 506687 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had terrible experience with -codec copy in the past not doing what I want < 1388267765 449302 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give it a try < 1388267781 204909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :sox can extract something given absolute start and end positions, if I recall correctly, but I'm reasonably sure sox especially won't do it without re-encoding. < 1388267794 300337 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds likely < 1388267837 104388 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :By the way, after I fixed my glx kernel module (it wasn't compiled for the current kernel!), flash video in full screen no longer works < 1388267867 870248 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So whatever fall back driver X uses when fglrx isn't loaded, works with flash < 1388267868 742857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1388267885 11630 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388267894 837744 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. I tested the line above on a random mp3, and it seems to have done the start seek properly but not the duration limit. < 1388267906 600083 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1388267909 676255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that is silly < 1388267930 811223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, command line argument order strikes again. < 1388267943 368004 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1388267946 342437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need avconv -ss 123 -i input.mp3 -t 42 -codec copy out.mp3 instead. < 1388267948 89880 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate utilities like that < 1388267957 782646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What < 1388267959 661215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the duration limit is an "output" kind of an argument. < 1388267962 240658 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes little sense < 1388267968 209239 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh < 1388267974 839303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And whatever you specify before an -i option is specific for that input, or some-such. < 1388267984 791888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1388268005 540468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even better: the -ss can go both before or after the -i and will do a subtly different thing. :p < 1388268020 58152 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm would this work on an mp4 from youtube as well, I need that too, not sure what audio codec thoses uses (nor any idea how to find out) < 1388268043 912035 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388268080 49673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the formats that go in an MP4 container are all AAC on the audio. < 1388268093 182539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh < 1388268191 598050 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is AAC < 1388268196 252170 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to vlc < 1388268247 540384 :Chillectual!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388268288 845848 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ ~/local/ffmpeg/bin/ffmpeg < 1388268289 35088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/arvid/.cache/keyring-z7nSMy/pkcs11: No such file or directory < 1388268291 925497 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck < 1388268299 299791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it trying to do gnome keyring!? < 1388268418 473844 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $'LET "1:20:23.41 Start of this section\\n1:21:34.56 etc" ~ "{d!+}:{d!+}:{d!+.!d!+}.+{d!+}:{d!+}:{d!+.!d!+}"\n\\0+(60*(\\1+60*\\2))-\\3-(60*(\\4+60*\\5))_"' | ploki < 1388268420 95831 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :71.1500000000005 < 1388268447 795784 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is ploki? < 1388268463 576842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how good time-domain accuracy you'll get out of it with -codec copy, since (AIUI) MP3 hasn't really been designed for extracting individual frames; there's some inter-frame dependencies. (If I ever knew the details, I've forgotten them.) < 1388268482 551597 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :ploki is love, ploki is life < 1388268489 73495 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about aac? < 1388268500 627660 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, Something more useful? < 1388268508 88319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got a file 10.3 seconds long with -t 10.) < 1388268516 641130 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's a programming language < 1388268519 895136 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388268520 83744 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388268520 83884 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388268523 541198 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, paradigm? < 1388268536 113796 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks of the unreadable sort from that < 1388268540 284122 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are my options? < 1388268558 318966 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke, the usual? < 1388268569 295150 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1388268581 440753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :functional/imperative, oop/not-oop and so on < 1388268583 420892 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ffmpeg and avconv are unlikely to have major functionality differences afaik < 1388268593 936344 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :imperative < 1388268594 201584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather they probably both have some things the other doesn't have at any given time? < 1388268601 978775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah okay, then what was the bloody point of the fork? < 1388268615 623583 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source development politics < 1388268622 563722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right. < 1388268626 614216 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ffmpeg pulls in like half the libav commits unchanged nowadays or something < 1388268639 800163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think libav has the more momentum if only because Debian etc. use it < 1388268640 739327 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And avconv the same? < 1388268647 336363 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1388268648 500895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's so much the other way around, but I don't know that much < 1388268651 360843 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read a blog post about it < 1388268661 592655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this over indentation and braces? ;) < 1388268687 772132 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I don't really care what the conflict is about < 1388268761 339228 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Got 10.9 seconds with "-t 10" for extracting some AAC audio from a youtube-dl .mp4 file. < 1388268795 93542 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So okay, I can just forget non-lossy then < 1388268873 321947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want exact time resolution. At the very least, it's going to have to be rounded at the frame boundaries of the audio codec. < 1388268887 685561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kind of like you need to speak in 8x8 blocks for lossless JPEG operations.) < 1388268964 539093 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1388269044 900695 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.109.237 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ē < 1388269046 875221 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0113 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH MACRON] < 1388269080 893598 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ω̈ < 1388269082 893547 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+03C9 GREEK SMALL LETTER OMEGA] [U+0308 COMBINING DIAERESIS] < 1388269119 449326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH MACARONI AND CHEESE < 1388269158 105805 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never has a character been so delicious. < 1388269203 422909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Going to sleep, I think; been a long day.) < 1388269372 600889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines fizzie dreaming about chasing edible symbols
< 1388269687 963396 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388269968 130398 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1388270212 892703 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1388270396 732396 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really dislike the iterators of python < 1388270401 91888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are too limited < 1388270448 933897 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is obj oriented, so you can make your own! :P < 1388270464 324954 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: How do they work, and how is it limited? < 1388270480 659135 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no support for iterators that support going backwards and forwards. In C++ terms they would basically be input iterators I believe < 1388270498 275168 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388270518 42711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, if I want to look at the next item in the iterator without removing it from the iterator (i.e. a peek function), can't do it < 1388270545 946771 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, yes, but it won't integrate into the "for x in foo" syntax. I would have to do my own while loop over it < 1388270581 527843 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :__iter__ < 1388270583 913992 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, why don't I just do a in_list = list(input_iter); for i in range(len(in_list)): or some such < 1388270607 313698 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, pretty sure that i wouldn't be able to access a peek function even if I added one in that case? < 1388270716 585090 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on how you implement your iterator < 1388270774 443006 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I guess I could create some wrapped object that forwarded most of the calls to the underlying object and then do "for e in my_collection: ... e.next()" < 1388270780 927969 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds annoying though < 1388270872 221899 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard you can even subclass generator and set __iter__ to an instance of that subclass < 1388270902 703191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh that is a cool idea, but I think doing an range iterator is easier since this is a pretty short one-off script < 1388270948 490661 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388272141 551888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a good python IDE? I just use IDLE mostly, but it is kind of bad at figuring out completion suggestions. Understandable giben the dynamic typing < 1388272200 214933 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like the wxPython Py suite but I only use Sublime Text 2 < 1388272215 905988 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :given* < 1388272220 55759 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm okay < 1388272285 372236 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You can look at Editra, it's slightly based on the Py suite and also written in Python + wx < 1388272338 873161 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388272359 179015 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1388272371 460089 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm! < 1388272422 949797 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used it for a long time before I found out about ST2 < 1388272443 26656 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone keeps telling me to use ST2. < 1388272477 574782 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because you should :P < 1388272517 126391 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-179-150-229.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why. it's not free or open source last I checked. < 1388272559 75875 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1388272565 284025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard sublime is good though < 1388272568 692045 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried it myself < 1388272577 259619 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few people at work uses it < 1388272580 91802 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :It only randomly shows a message box at every tenth saving action if unregistered < 1388272585 931862 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mostly use emacs instead < 1388272609 662228 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, ouch, I tend to save quite often < 1388272615 781577 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388272649 708611 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually more like at every 20th but meh < 1388272778 500914 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost never use an IDE, I just have the docs on another halve of the screen < 1388272801 481322 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, I like intelisense style completion, doesn't work very well for python though < 1388272859 959473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't use an IDE (which I take to include sufficiently fancy vim/emacs configs) but mostly out of laziness and inertia, not because I don't think they're valuable < 1388273065 888094 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does IntelliSense different again? < 1388273077 307924 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Agda emacs mode is awesome and if I had such a mode easily available for Haskell and Rust, I would love it < 1388273083 87025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough to switch back to emacs, maybe < 1388273123 796954 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388273352 765870 :nutty!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273352 993858 :nutty!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273352 993992 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273354 48455 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388273407 695310 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273407 883960 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.105 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273407 884164 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273504 487492 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388273550 54090 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, two web disconnects in such a small time < 1388273630 694281 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388273677 747490 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :Guest5107 < 1388273679 367077 :Guest5107!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388273949 795141 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.130.13 NICK :nucular < 1388273950 48848 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I think that with the features in Black-C, it seems like it would be possible to use them to implement many features resembling those used in C++, such as templates, run-time type information, inheritance, Koenig lookup, etc. Do you think this is correct or did I miss something important that results in such implementations not working? < 1388273966 704350 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.130.13 QUIT :Changing host < 1388273966 892438 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388274100 871323 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I the only one only coming up with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_Posse when searching Black-C? < 1388274112 532851 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-40-153.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's zzo38's c proposal thing. < 1388274122 452173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/black_c.txt < 1388274181 463122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as some C99 stuff such as complex numbers could also be implemented using these features. < 1388274233 975694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and namespaces, too. < 1388274310 624958 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I just came here to talk with ais523 about building a Snowflake interpreter < 1388274312 539292 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recently added the specification of "extern static" now; it is the only thing I added today, I think. Name mangling applies to things declared as "extern static", and in fact only to such things (other things are treated as normal C names). < 1388274543 199232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, why would you want to make C++!? < 1388274566 904581 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388274568 711108 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implementing ADL and templates seem like terrible ideas given how much of a pain they cause in the C++ world < 1388274589 756095 :hogeyui_!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388274602 494725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, he seems to be missing atm < 1388274643 703575 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388274678 895040 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It isn't C++; I am simply saying that such things may be some of the things that can be implemented using the features I have described. If you don't like them, don't program them in! < 1388274680 134123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, my python script works fantastically! < 1388274722 923870 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing that I'm a D fan btw :P < 1388274745 917115 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :nucular, you and Deewiant? < 1388274754 114007 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess the D author anyway < 1388274766 605224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be blunt, what I'm saying is that D hasn't really seemed to take off much < 1388274789 91988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: does your metaprogramming system give deep access to inspect & destructure types, the way C++ templates do (and pretty much nothing else does)? < 1388274848 252654 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ... hm, I don't know what avconv did though, the "duration" column in vlc is all messed up for these files... < 1388274853 19791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I am not very well knowing how C++ does it. < 1388274853 332060 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Until you play them < 1388274864 644437 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe some sort of VBR and no included length info? < 1388274887 500099 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What is "ADL" anyways? < 1388274975 171572 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388274979 323481 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, Other name for Koenig lookup (I had to look up what "Koenig lookup" was, I only knew the name ADL - Argument Dependent Lookup) < 1388274995 837271 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388275010 414749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OK, I didn't know what the abbreviation stood for. < 1388275025 380093 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, my connection decided to suck for today < 1388275064 248850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Can you give some example of its working?