< 1388620833 631490 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah ok. I think what they're trying to do with wave is wallcrawl to plasma without it < 1388620841 818523 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then pick it up later < 1388620863 801844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to get into Phendrana without Varia < 1388620875 487727 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which requires Wave (obviously impossible), or Plasma + a bunch of tricks that haven't been found yet < 1388620877 971074 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're looking for them < 1388620905 947735 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I get it < 1388620912 654487 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to go through the back door < 1388620924 500732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388620935 395485 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're down to needing only 2 more tricks < 1388620978 811783 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know offhand if you can wallcrawl out of the magmoor damage, like you can in dark aether? < 1388621002 722448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1388621501 419339 :bagulhex!~qpstnola@177.135.87.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388621696 372708 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388622058 876445 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, ais523, did any of you play other m by any chance < 1388622066 228227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hahahahahahahaha < 1388622137 834451 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I've beaten it < 1388622148 200447 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why the question is *that* funny to ais523 < 1388622152 856939 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The discovery of this room was a complete accident – much like this entire project – and to top it off, it is in a default world." < 1388622153 44984 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :awww yiss, you guys are talking metroid? < 1388622160 109871 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So WHY did you categorize it as a "custom" world? < 1388622175 462092 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :love me some Prime. < 1388622178 440421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, the joke is other m < 1388622201 198712 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388622232 749693 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :NewYearInterpol: it's highly on topic here < 1388622267 628392 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not /really/, unless someone proves Metroid TC < 1388622278 653271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably PSPACE_complete the same way Mario is, actually < 1388622282 157752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is not actually about esoteric programming languages < 1388622291 179199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I keep leaving because of that < 1388622321 118690 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you come back? < 1388622340 547222 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1895v1.pdf < 1388622349 206312 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is actually about metroid. < 1388622373 302680 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And... this person misunderstands how Worlds actually works < 1388622484 572528 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worlds? < 1388622491 324266 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wat u play. < 1388622530 434768 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WorldsPlayer < 1388622544 838748 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that? < 1388622584 406972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hope that it's got better < 1388622590 299638 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or occasionally to test out a BF Joust program < 1388622592 412041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1388622610 853685 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :in zero mission you can grab a ledge and morph from it, right? < 1388622617 41536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :NewYearInterpol: really, really old 3d chat program < 1388622617 572233 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would break the constructions for Zero Mission < 1388622624 987608 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hahhaha. < 1388622625 714467 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the Power Grip, yes, I think < 1388622636 728063 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yep. < 1388622642 516182 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use crumble blocks, though < 1388622647 829437 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to create one-way corridors < 1388622648 663005 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this note I left isn't too rude http://gradualdime.wikia.com/wiki/Animal_House_Control_Room < 1388622655 110409 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a minute. < 1388622658 379610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part is creating switches that have effects down the line < 1388622666 646244 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you guys doing metroid ROM hacking? < 1388622690 499383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're discussing the computational class of Metroid games < 1388622703 726151 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so metroid ROM hacking. < 1388622716 77088 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, just level editing < 1388622719 587336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, more like theoretical ROM hacking < 1388622723 510555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not planning to hack any ROMs < 1388622726 720951 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :along the lines of the mario and dkcountry NP proofs < 1388622726 908993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to discuss how it might work < 1388622733 607616 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i love that that paper had figures) < 1388622736 858068 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that the proof still holds, you just need more complicated gadgets < 1388622751 987033 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss the turing completeness of super metroid. < 1388622767 709923 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388622773 2349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well for Mario and Donkey Kong Country, you can use shells/barrels < 1388622775 201157 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you just not provide spacejump and use gravity for diodes? < 1388622782 572012 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i don't remember how the mechanisms worked anyway. < 1388622785 856717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: infinite wall jump can be done with no items < 1388622786 876919 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just talking metroid games with power trip < 1388622788 85056 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grip < 1388622789 596767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can use crumble blocks for diodes < 1388622791 900534 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they're for < 1388622800 965902 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely undefeatable < 1388622803 351721 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, i could never walljump for ass. < 1388622810 385699 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :could you walljump in the original? < 1388622810 713538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it's intentionally difficult < 1388622813 710306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you won't find it by mistake < 1388622817 95099 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :super metroid cheats and has a crossover built in < 1388622819 296996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in the original probably not < 1388622830 907011 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never played super metroid >_> < 1388622834 484062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that really long pipe thing in Maridia? < 1388622837 239818 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388622845 771925 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got the rom but it turns out phone touchpads are not good enough for snes controls < 1388622849 83374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :filling a game of /those/ would be tedious < 1388622866 734488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: especially not Super Metroid, which has famously convoluted controls < 1388622876 719684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had to simplify them for Fusion because of fewer buttons < 1388622894 687972 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :geez. < 1388622907 942173 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no way you could do fusion's trigger for missiles thing < 1388622967 65484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might be able to do a crossover simply using momentum < 1388623014 45675 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1388623029 186636 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: actually, yeah, you could do it with regenerating speed boost blocks < 1388623046 780829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, clever < 1388623055 966862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to stop people shinesparking back the way they came, though? < 1388623061 400533 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to care about that < 1388623069 74255 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what're you guys trying to simulate? diodes? < 1388623072 256527 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need to ensure they can't change directions < 1388623072 737729 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you have some curved, crossing paths < 1388623074 584245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NewYearInterpol: crossover < 1388623082 102453 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :crossover? < 1388623096 547652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm thinking, you charge the speed boost, crouch on the way, then set it off in the middle < 1388623101 961321 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a way ffor two paths to cross. < 1388623102 149423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instantly refilling your momentum < 1388623111 117 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol. < 1388623113 619972 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: use speed boost vertically, morph ball tunnel horizontally < 1388623124 268211 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol/ < 1388623128 23225 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?* < 1388623128 211208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: v @ ? . < 1388623130 95397 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you can't speed boost downwards, but I guess that doesn't matter? < 1388623134 600082 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i fucking didn't < 1388623138 537041 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you only need one direction < 1388623141 723359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1388623167 958080 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Super Metroid, what if you get down to low HP so that it stops halfway through, just when you're level with the tunnel < 1388623173 798618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(say using failed shinesparks) < 1388623183 225975 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then mid-air morph and roll into the tunnel < 1388623191 519090 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the hell is crossover. < 1388623197 304688 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what i said! < 1388623198 429310 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :super metroid doesn't have the power glove, so it's not a concern < 1388623208 759263 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're talking about making a horizontal route and a vertical route go through the same tiles < 1388623215 41606 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other m is 3d so you can just implement it by having them go round < 1388623219 444070 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :..lol. < 1388623222 957380 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1388623224 78254 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it is, you can get into a morph tunnel in mid-air in Super Metroid < 1388623228 803718 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so mzm and fusion are the only ones you need to worry about < 1388623230 602936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speedrunners do it all the time on the way back from getting bombs < 1388623233 375552 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1388623238 795801 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, good point < 1388623239 410505 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1388623240 501137 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ridiculously precise but it's possible < 1388623266 246819 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but super metroid already has a crossover so all's good < 1388623272 66871 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, hmm < 1388623278 420847 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :this breaks the Clause gadget too < 1388623287 94886 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, it's totally broken in any game with power bombs < 1388623304 148557 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you use super missile blocks instead, which are immune to power bombs? < 1388623315 713197 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. logic. < 1388623319 130377 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you guys are doing. < 1388623329 984588 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. I was lost. < 1388623333 810082 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you make it implement a 3-sat clause though? < 1388623342 132029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I'm not sure yet < 1388623590 151607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do planar 3-coloring, no crossover needed. < 1388623598 323732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1388623755 507958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the Clause gadget work again? < 1388623769 86457 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lots of zoomers < 1388623771 753088 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the PDF < 1388623776 781732 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a picture < 1388623796 568675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have a link to the PDF handy? < 1388623811 982559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I didn't realise there was a Metroid version already < 1388623881 659848 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked it above < 1388623884 992891 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all the same paper < 1388623893 21291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there we go < 1388623896 278565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the link the first time < 1388624520 521956 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388625379 595458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388625967 298357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are quite a few issues in this paper < 1388625978 210002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've already discussed the Power Grip issue with the given crossover in Metroid < 1388625988 188968 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and more worryingly, the Clause construction) < 1388626029 184328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Pokémon construction's also "wrong", in that Alakazam could keep missing with Psychic (it has a 255/256 hit chance), but that's easily fixable via PP abuses < 1388626160 155349 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Clause is vulnerable to power bomb < 1388626171 96852 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: afaict the construction works for the original metroid though < 1388626185 685248 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it might actually be possible to get through with some bombs < 1388626223 932558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can infinite bomb jump in the original metroid < 1388626228 303591 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you have any good let's play recommendations? < 1388626230 844875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just get into it from below < 1388626236 919953 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in original metroid? < 1388626254 525564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :via infinite bomb jump into the tunnel after killing the zoomers < 1388626263 499650 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think their constructions are designed to just not give you the power bomb < 1388626389 835599 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1388627244 196592 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388630740 121089 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388630752 24144 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.138.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388630752 212474 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.138.157 QUIT :Changing host < 1388630752 212620 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388630757 825405 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388630764 636450 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zen < 1388630780 305229 :Guest36982!~MOO@89.204.138.157 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388630782 587288 :Guest36982!~MOO@89.204.138.157 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388630784 124728 :Zen!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1388630880 302557 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.135.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388630959 628493 :nuculear!~MOO@89.204.135.77 NICK :nucular < 1388630970 948168 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.135.77 QUIT :Changing host < 1388630971 136676 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631402 31471 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388631415 922446 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631417 816268 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388631445 838965 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.135.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631446 27013 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.135.77 QUIT :Changing host < 1388631446 27165 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631447 416536 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388631490 853872 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.135.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631491 41950 :nucular!~MOO@89.204.135.77 QUIT :Changing host < 1388631491 42080 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388631993 947453 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388632000 652241 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388632002 573698 :nutty!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388632047 886720 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1388632050 460372 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Excess Flood < 1388632478 510619 :Cacophony!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/cacophony JOIN :#esoteric < 1388632817 761892 :bagulhex!~qpstnola@177.135.87.195 QUIT :Quit: CyberScript - O minist�rio da sa�de adverte: usar CyberScript causa depend�ncia! (www.cyberscript.org) < 1388633083 847192 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-224-236.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388633162 925827 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388633185 847100 :Bike__!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388633188 323591 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388633233 974845 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-75-157.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388633286 696538 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388633363 786951 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-224-236.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388633814 565232 :Bike__!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388633960 400611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to make the graphics for the Famicom version of my "Attribute Zone" game? < 1388634114 419050 :Cacophony!~chatzilla@unaffiliated/cacophony QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1388634474 850532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never heard of this game < 1388634502 964667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it up. < 1388634546 250015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently only PC version exists, and it just uses PC text mode graphics. < 1388634655 674177 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Despite this, the game rules are designed around the Famicom.) < 1388634658 465001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the game like? < 1388634678 637134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i play it? < 1388634680 86237 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i play on linux < 1388634713 945484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you advertise software as for "PC" but no OS then I'm going to assume it's bootable and will run it in QEmu :) < 1388634746 719123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1388634780 33115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: That is a good idea, but I have included no bootloader; it needs some DOS functions. It is a DOS program. However maybe it can be fixed to support a plain PC. < 1388634788 217278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, you can play it, you need the file http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/CGACOLL.ZIP which contains ATTRZONE.* < 1388634808 575314 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388634823 752087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can play it in DOSBox probably < 1388634827 414232 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1388634830 890051 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it would < 1388634901 139646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then you need a way to run DOS programs, or some way to compile it to work in other systems (although it uses PC hardware registers, so you need to convert those too unless you only want to remove the OS requirement and still have it run in a PC or PC emulator). < 1388634910 333199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes probably DOSBox will work. < 1388635038 173425 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you briefly describe the goal and idea of the game < 1388635074 359030 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is described in the relevant section of CGACOLL.DOC (search it for "ATTRZONE"), but I can also explain more if you have other questions. < 1388635104 565909 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to hire a PR person. < 1388635127 189939 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: If I intend to sell any of these things sometimes, then maybe I will. But for now I don't. < 1388635255 371519 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs an android x86 emu for DOSing
< 1388635367 680060 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main idea of this game is that you cannot have two different non-white colors of pieces in a single 2x2 block. Another rule is no more than eight sprites per row. < 1388635381 209851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently there is only two levels but you can make your own if you want to. < 1388635389 942508 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could start with "it's a puzzle game" < 1388635400 45231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes, it is that. < 1388635414 23975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This ZIP archive is full of many other games too! < 1388636476 894879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn the dos emu for android doesn't let you add new files to its filesystem. it emulates a fixed hard drive < 1388637417 51596 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.102.164 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1388637627 374230 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388637637 439967 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388637748 913726 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388637848 8727 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1388641575 944507 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388641645 832576 :Rho1st!~Rho1st@2602:304:28aa:b40:b86a:3741:6e41:1014 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388642047 752959 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's the idea of a "free object" on a set where you take an equivalence class of ASTs, more or less. < 1388642109 743366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. you start with all the elements in a set, you add a 1 element and you make every tree that you can using (*), and then you consider trees equal if the monoid laws force them to be equal. < 1388642156 164924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's also e.g. the idea of a free category on a graph, where you take paths through the graph (and if your graph has one object and a set of loops, you end up with the same free monoid). < 1388642171 186444 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you think of a construction like that in a similar way? < 1388642214 172160 :Rho1st!~Rho1st@2602:304:28aa:b40:b86a:3741:6e41:1014 PART :#esoteric < 1388642330 943251 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much intuition for the general sense of "free object" other than the definition (a left adjoint). < 1388642821 846469 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388645410 184841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ evince downloads/541.pdf < 1388645410 409633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(evince:9676): GLib-ERROR **: creating thread 'EvJobScheduler': Error creating thread: Resource temporarily unavailable < 1388645413 188992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trace/breakpoint trap < 1388645418 920362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1388645445 770015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked the second time because chromium crashed in the meantime? < 1388646503 950902 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unlike Bitcoin, Namecoin, and Litecoin, Peercoin does not have a hard limit on the number of possible coins, but is designed to eventually attain an annual inflation rate of 1 percent. This feature, along with increased energy efficiency, aim to allow for greater long-term scalability." < 1388646516 797236 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that.. actually more sensible, or is that just guessing that that's more sensible? < 1388646556 489688 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fed controls inflation thrugh controlling interest rates, i think? i don't know how an intrinsic inflation efects things < 1388646945 537975 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh neat, proof of stake basically makes sure that transaction fees aren't sole incentive for miners < 1388646968 552451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1388648080 704456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a hard limit gives you deflation, which encourages hoarding rather than spending < 1388648089 757574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it seems to me like a good change < 1388648094 858187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know next to nothing about economics < 1388648166 490156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can say that cryptocurrencies have mortmain monetary policy but really they have monetary policy set by a hashrate-weighted direct democracy < 1388648199 504448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be interesting to have a decentralized currency with a one-vote-per-person direct democracy < 1388648255 698675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably need some central authority to decide what a "person" is, though < 1388648255 886710 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mortmain? < 1388648259 860413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead hand < 1388648262 413585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy word < 1388648274 547243 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beyond a poor peasant like me, sir < 1388648286 887405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :central authority e.g. a national identity smartcard system like taiwan has (only without the fatally broken random number generators lolololol) < 1388648372 437061 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :here i thought it was some hipness for "mortal [dying] main authority" < 1388648379 24010 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388648381 377981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you could do anonymous e-voting (the usual way is additively homeomorphic encryption, I believe) < 1388648412 989778 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember how that works
< 1388648423 835840 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa whoa whoa, homeomorphic encryption? < 1388648428 277771 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :homeomorphic encrytion is dark magic and nothing less < 1388648429 411893 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a thing < 1388648437 711945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it's spellt homomorphic < 1388648445 949686 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but other fields use the two words interchangeably don't they? < 1388648446 840507 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there actual implementations, i forget < 1388648450 235905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, good ones. < 1388648451 910804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes < 1388648455 603971 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dag < 1388648457 528964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do they? < 1388648467 988439 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like parpolity but not parecon, but parpolity seems to rely on parecon < 1388648470 438891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well even RSA is homomorphic for multiplication < 1388648480 127028 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: the only meaning of "homeomorphism" i've ever heard is "isomorphism of topological spaces" < 1388648487 10627 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1388648502 242079 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :homeomorphic encryption sounds like it would be exciting < 1388648509 931139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but there are actual implementations for schemes that can compute any circuit, too < 1388648513 397236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/shaih/HElib < 1388648516 382681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know about "good ones" < 1388648519 960657 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosh < 1388648530 373538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bootstrapped homomorphic encryption is p. cool < 1388648534 434716 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i just mean, like, usable to run a country or whatever. < 1388648548 47578 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bike, nothing is good by that standard." < 1388648550 115659 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homeopathic encryption: add 9 parts NULs to 1 part of data, shake well into three directions, repeat the process 30 to 100 times. < 1388648589 211929 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yummy! < 1388648595 967965 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take a part of the result, it will contain the essence of the original data. < 1388648748 443441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: with a HE primitive, you can only do a certain amount of computation on each encrypted value, and bootstrapping solves this awesomely with self-reference < 1388648750 682428 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However, security against adaptive chosen ciphertext attacks (CCA2) is equivalent to non-malleability." < 1388648760 303770 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: cool. < 1388648785 753814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://crypto.stanford.edu/craig/easy-fhe.pdf is the shit < 1388648787 371990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to understand hom(e)omorphic encryption once but couldn't get past the consequences. incidentally this is about as far as i understand any encyryption < 1388648810 556912 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really incidental so much as my entire point, hm. < 1388648851 28420 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :consequences? < 1388648873 473595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole computation on encrypted data thingie < 1388649079 243923 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388649660 659839 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "get past" i guess < 1388649703 988875 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388649765 377832 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that i don't unerstand shit < 1388650009 358490 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388650306 888593 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388650806 940022 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388650820 355496 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388651533 348963 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388651812 658774 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388651838 880550 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388652019 115423 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388652846 268427 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388653407 22723 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388653519 898956 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388654395 104455 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388655750 116945 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388655858 663591 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42972.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388656507 861440 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388658394 5116 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently floating eyes that hunt you down and chomp at you and put you in a secret part of the attic are "weird" < 1388658882 631564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that happen to you often? < 1388658931 892739 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens in WorldsPlayer when someone in AnimalHouse gets past a fence they shouldn't be able to < 1388658941 924740 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why people keep calling WorldsPlayer creepy < 1388658977 904249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it bother you that people keep calling WorldsPlayer creepy? [Responses from this point on provided by M-x doctor.] < 1388659341 197890 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Woah... that's just a mirror, but it freaked me out, because this game is weird" < 1388659373 532055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did you first know that this game is weird? < 1388659397 866527 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, I have to go to the shop now. (That was no longer from Emacs.) < 1388661969 909234 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388662772 256109 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1388662913 984433 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388663047 338313 :NewYearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388663287 482399 :olsner!~salparot@78-72-235-77-no50.business.telia.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388664079 116250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388664956 128526 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1388664970 124629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388665001 873868 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388665057 776184 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388665210 346434 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388666901 32489 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.102.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388666991 872861 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388666995 840039 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Derp < 1388667017 272412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome Membiio < 1388667022 60277 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09Membiio: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1388667063 394456 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1388667086 932735 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+++++++++++++[->++++++++++++++<]>+++++++++++++++++. < 1388667098 224159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf >+++++++++++++[->++++++++++++++<]>+++++++++++++++++. < 1388667105 44086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1388667113 37705 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eek? < 1388667125 227133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: BOT RUN AWAY < 1388667156 757865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf >+++++++++++++[->++++++++++++++<]>+++++++++++++++++. < 1388667157 404264 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ç < 1388667158 868843 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​� < 1388667159 70988 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What... Bot... < 1388667171 186361 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just confused now. < 1388667176 839514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's name is fungot < 1388667179 901532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1388667194 380230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortunately EgoBot also has a bf command. < 1388667205 863117 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay... < 1388667244 522099 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FiM++ is hard. < 1388667245 342816 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1388667251 930899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eek. < 1388667308 468523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pratchett.freenode.net seems to have gone away. < 1388667358 207570 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me needz halp < 1388667393 607640 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1388667394 134007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt we have any FiM++ experts here. < 1388667471 668319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Gregor, since he's a brony < 1388667487 23520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he doesn't look present < 1388667492 395272 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1388667497 623552 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well. < 1388667542 198255 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got anything simple? < 1388667634 106622 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1388667725 674476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Membiio: i'm afraid the reason we don't talk about FiM++ and languages like that (e.g. LOLCODE) much is that they're really just a heap of fluff around an underlying very _normal_ language. < 1388667754 887580 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388667760 484438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the things we _do_ like to talk about here are even worse to program in. < 1388667775 778565 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you've already noticed bf) < 1388667795 767938 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm... < 1388667860 657945 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED A LANGUAGE BASED ON BACON AND BAGELS. < 1388667882 6879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you can try Chef, that's at least food :P < 1388667963 497528 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0_0 < 1388667987 579264 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand Chef. < 1388668052 240738 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it work? < 1388668154 980420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well chef is a lot of fluff _and_ a more awkward underlying language. i cannot exactly read it on the spot either. < 1388668204 659428 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw... < 1388668286 11241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a language _without_ fluff and very simply basic commands, you can try Underload. alas it's still not easy to do anything advanced with. < 1388668320 862797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf also doesn't have fluff. < 1388668807 35292 :Membiio!5e06a99b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.6.169.155 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388669349 839836 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388669542 348765 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No food either. < 1388669554 710123 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except maybe FOOD FOR THOUGHT. < 1388670046 974595 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@169.244.180.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388670412 985981 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKI calculus! < 1388670446 162915 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCKW calculus is totally underrated < 1388670500 673931 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1388670720 131395 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1388670870 98132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Homeopathic encryption: add 9 parts NULs to 1 part of data, shake well into three directions, repeat the process 30 to 100 times. < 1388670874 411486 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1153) Homeopathic encryption: add 9 parts NULs to 1 part of data, shake well into three directions, repeat the process 30 to 100 times. < 1388670950 57801 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@169.244.180.190 PRIVMSG #esoteric :effective. < 1388671048 907653 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388671314 384163 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good anne morning! < 1388671320 95632 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388671343 448071 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388671354 957084 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYQB < 1388671357 259968 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYQB 021300Z 02004KT 30SM FEW015 SCT180 M31/M36 A3055 RMK SC1AC2 SLP355 < 1388671515 909151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's anne < 1388671659 789980 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be me. I've been shifted to a different table because my mom and aunt are going to do scrapbooking today. I'm sitting at a green one in the basement. < 1388671667 666165 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that makes me Anne of Green Tables. < 1388671963 520818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: "I predict that a century hence the Canadian people will be the noblest specimens of humanity on the face of the Earth", rev. John Bredin, 1863, via xkcd. Do you feel this was an accurate prediction? < 1388672073 200131 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not to sound sycophantic this morning, but I thing Scandinavian people are in a better pool position than us. < 1388672084 919782 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/g\b/k/ < 1388672200 856144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good mornink! < 1388672239 156307 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Does "better pool position" translate to "more likely to go down a hole"? < 1388672371 923379 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm drinking coffee. I can't be pessimistic. < 1388672408 665820 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: good topic ... nothing sounds stranger than the truth. < 1388672434 699521 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the poor /topic? < 1388672444 983337 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388673321 475595 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1388674218 232155 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1388675377 22879 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388675492 198112 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1388675559 213629 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@169.244.180.190 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388675563 956625 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388675649 460511 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1388675679 204941 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388675684 884960 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388676409 957244 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388676926 544167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1388677058 453527 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388677218 139273 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388677435 850690 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388678483 116991 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1388678559 722876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :mornin boilyface < 1388678704 761773 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matintopia. < 1388678708 585872 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily face? < 1388678904 954393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Catface, he's got a big cat's face, he's got the body of a cat, and the face of a cat, and he flies through the air cos' he's got a catface, catface! < 1388678921 631776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a song.) < 1388678988 170508 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do this day? < 1388679119 706152 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :work. < 1388679230 331855 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I have unlimited coffee and there's a fire in the hearth. < 1388679542 142827 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's life on your end? not too cold today? < 1388679580 465271 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1388679956 387290 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1388680458 118187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, nothing like where you are < 1388680500 475252 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL < 1388680501 273607 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 021618Z 22005KT 1 1/2SM BR OVC005 09/08 A2987 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 5 RAE04 P0001 < 1388680510 854458 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1388680664 232014 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i will have to work today < 1388680675 255508 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should eat < 1388681777 627242 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1388681778 227463 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 021650Z 15009KT 9999 BKN020 04/00 Q1009 R01L/29//95 R08/25//95 R01R/29//95 NOSIG < 1388681825 57319 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you all having over-zero temperatures? < 1388681953 462567 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI < 1388681954 443720 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 021650Z VRB02KT 9999 FEW060 BKN070 OVC100 03/M01 Q1012 R08/19//95 NOSIG < 1388681964 890987 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388681972 400413 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1388681988 5706 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388682007 196452 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1388682206 32847 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just my browser rendering wrong, or does the funciton page contain a smaller second copy of the entire page embedded near the end of it < 1388682595 614919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the wiki? the page looks normal here. < 1388682693 573244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1388682736 500680 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rendered right when i closed the tab and reopened it < 1388682875 966628 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia's being haunted by poltertabs. < 1388682901 225002 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: < 1388682905 142113 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shivers
< 1388683241 660475 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1388684308 984132 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc65575-sgyl31-2-0-cust736.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388684315 843385 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc65575-sgyl31-2-0-cust736.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com QUIT :Changing host < 1388684316 49438 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388684353 193702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1388684354 504514 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 021720Z 12011KT 9999 BKN017 00/M03 Q1017 NOSIG < 1388684370 833467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, barely made it to the over-zero club. < 1388684378 837967 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, THE AUNTS ARE COMING! < 1388684524 906598 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they joining the green table? < 1388684580 16633 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. the Green Table is Mine. < 1388684637 912676 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds lonely < 1388684669 218722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis the season for aunts, I guess. < 1388684679 806104 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be a knight of the green table? < 1388684720 515961 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Quintopia de la Vertable, serving under Fizzie, King of the Flying Wizard Dogs. < 1388684817 811034 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still love that name. < 1388685144 862806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: thanks < 1388686768 281131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://defuse.ca/bochs-hacking-guide.htm guide to hacking Bochs, including adding new instructions and registers < 1388686807 46266 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1388686836 551954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rnsa < 1388686900 122527 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388686906 989622 :Chillectual!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us NICK :LinearInterpol < 1388687166 738038 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck rnsa < 1388687167 390180 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Royal Naval Sailing Association is the governing body that oversees all aspects of sailing, both racing and recreational sailing cruises, throughout the British Royal Navy. < 1388687978 900484 :tertu!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1388687994 959287 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388688219 995900 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388688238 899014 :ter2!~tertu@65-128-138-136.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388688278 859007 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388688310 792013 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388688310 997027 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Changing host < 1388688310 997167 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1388688333 986253 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-227-206.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388688770 300122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorella, your autoident is fucked, hth < 1388688821 208284 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc on xchat you fix this by entering your password in the 'server password' form rather than 'nickserv password' < 1388688861 370325 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388688874 52888 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah, yeah. I moved from ERC to XChat yesterday and didn't configure it yet < 1388688938 759507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure you set the encoding to utf-8 as well then < 1388688967 430455 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1388688968 490333 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be ridiculous, phǟntom < 1388688999 718024 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there programs that don't do that automatically these days? < 1388689051 687297 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i.e. xchat < 1388689065 972012 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a braindead iso-whatever/utf-8 hybrid < 1388689165 626253 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that's one nice diacrḯtic stack. < 1388689175 105457 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wuzkcyyvslnvcjvc QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388689175 310970 :typeclassy!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqtzihsmfhiqshdv QUIT :*.net *.split < 1388689264 951975 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ǡǟ < 1388689380 198666 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL you can have above-dot and macron on a letter. we live in a Good Universe. < 1388689408 840841 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.7128 adventures in tenure < 1388689508 895836 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wuzkcyyvslnvcjvc JOIN :#esoteric < 1388689509 139473 :typeclassy!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqtzihsmfhiqshdv JOIN :#esoteric < 1388689603 962484 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42972.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388689672 573093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1388689676 909867 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388690991 742716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No time travelers were discovered." Sad. < 1388691081 556882 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Hungarumlaut... [citation needed” ← also sad. that words need to be officially homologated. < 1388691091 135884 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Requests for Time Travelers to Issue a Prescient Internet Communication" ha, nobody's going to answer that one, they'd be nabbed by the Time Cops for sure. < 1388691094 858474 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1388691277 795218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388691440 809694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to answer your earlier question about the topic, I would say that it is in TURMOIL. < 1388691455 649134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hashtagging -- labeling Internet content with terms beginning with a "#" -- originated on the Internet in the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) channels, --" weeeel. < 1388691469 755744 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: but why so much TROUBLE? I mean, such a PEACEFUL topic... < 1388691487 682066 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388691590 540344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/nsa-codenames.htm HTH < 1388691623 790116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/NSA_SURLYSPAWN.jpg < 1388691639 783145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh don't click that link if you work for the US government or ever intend to get a security clearance < 1388691678 249914 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...is that a real one or is it from the generator < 1388691683 397254 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid future. < 1388691684 215249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :real i think < 1388691690 200029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the scarier things about this spy gadget catalog is that the stuff in it is at least 7 years old < 1388691701 237977 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh. < 1388691760 583221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they put an ARM processor, 100 MB of storage, and an FPGA in a package the size of a penny... at the same time the original iPhone was being developed < 1388691770 105977 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/03/23/lifetimes/asi-v-fair.html Happy 2014, also < 1388691783 862364 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388691833 661651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :developing this stuff must be such a fun job if you ignore all the parts that aren't < 1388691870 427887 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this sentence. "Windows need be no more than an archaic touch." < 1388691880 458445 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm not surprised. FPGAs have been around for a looooooong time, and building a low-cost, low-power, small-as-fuck one wasn't hard years ago. < 1388691905 449641 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all comes down to how many logic elements it has, and you can do a lot with a few of them. < 1388691911 127393 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed they used a commercially available one < 1388691935 3358 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it, altera, xilinx? < 1388691938 928374 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/nasa-gets-two-military-spy-telescopes-for-astronomy/2012/06/04/gJQAsT6UDV_print.html < 1388691941 40545 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :some other obscure brand? < 1388691951 247715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :xilinx i think, but i'd have to look it up < 1388691961 870892 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :xilinx does good work. < 1388691963 354103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah that was pretty cool < 1388691975 5211 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck xilinx tools grr grr grr < 1388691983 343792 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, better than altera's shitty linux support. < 1388691992 579495 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fact that they dumped the waveform simulator in like quartus 9. < 1388691995 306893 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 10. < 1388692003 35388 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The appliances of 2014 will have no electric cords, of course, for they will be powered by long- lived batteries running on radioisotopes." < 1388692021 692013 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure they will. and I'm a fucking fairy. < 1388692074 290087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good, astonishingly close. < 1388692103 75772 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the asimov thing) < 1388692125 993801 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asimov thing? < 1388692129 630630 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1388692130 306075 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote. < 1388692130 746136 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1388692131 875882 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :futurolgy is always fun like this. predicts self-driving cars in development, but also flying cars < 1388692155 688194 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also moving sidewalks. why would anyone want moving sidewalks? < 1388692160 514880 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a story I remember that asimov wrote that was friggin' awesome. < 1388692164 840261 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :'murica < 1388692188 182258 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: see airports. but they are too high maintenance for outdoor areas. < 1388692188 648160 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Last Question" < 1388692229 856750 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In 2014, there is every likelihood that the world population will be 6,500,000,000 and the population of the United States will be 350,000,000. Boston-to-Washington, the most crowded area of its size on the earth, will have become a single city with a population of over 40,000,000." hey, slick. < 1388692245 160631 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: are those really sidewalks? i mean, you don't stop at storefronts on the way. < 1388692286 340370 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: scarily accurate. < 1388692295 730723 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they are not, but the idea is the same, speeding up walking by steping on some moving strip < 1388692304 902805 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stepping < 1388692317 143030 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :«The 2014 fair will feature an Algae Bar at which "mock-turkey" and "pseudosteak" will be served.» hell yeah motherfucers < 1388692352 964855 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, I read a story with algae farms that took place in 1992 < 1388692361 68085 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pseudosteak < 1388692365 402270 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tofusteak? < 1388692367 839697 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :psteak. < 1388692370 23091 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1388692398 853982 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSTEAK < 1388692406 39418 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's deliciously solvable. < 1388692414 619481 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Not all the world's population will enjoy the gadgety world of the future to the full. A larger portion than today will be deprived and although they may be better off, materially, than today, they will be further behind when compared with the advanced portions of the world. They will have moved backward, relatively." < 1388692477 63992 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388692756 411264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, communication is satellite based rather than cell based. < 1388692781 872538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :delicious Jacobs Orange Club, Penguin, and Jaffa Cake < 1388692818 333 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :attn. hexhamites < 1388692885 311713 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many hexhamites are left? < 1388693221 401710 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3tVUJPIhaI < 1388694027 160936 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42972.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1388694167 55876 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@HSI-KBW-37-49-6-33.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1388694595 225237 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388695138 939234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388695220 708754 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg29TuWo0Yo < 1388695220 949269 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god this is terrifying. < 1388695394 919995 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“hot young tech wizard”. he he he. < 1388695414 604345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pinball wizard < 1388695423 647254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizard dog. < 1388695493 723227 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :DirectX 11 saved my marriage. < 1388695545 34328 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, there's an Epic Pinball remake on the iThings (called "Retro Pinball"). < 1388696148 531965 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/XvdpjZYLumw < 1388696279 959617 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeeessssssssssss. < 1388696333 790943 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388696348 636578 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on their name, I was expecting more ukulele. < 1388696349 260912 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388696351 252769 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1388696355 374208 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388696370 952572 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1388696374 999920 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shadappayoface. < 1388697001 65909 :carado!~user4539@2a01:e35:8b61:e430:6ef0:49ff:fe73:1fd0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388697050 630094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: oh, missed that it's asimov < 1388697132 594009 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, what am I attending to? < 1388697138 280315 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eh? < 1388697155 561546 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what are you tanebbing again? < 1388697172 15471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/03/23/lifetimes/asi-v-fair.html < 1388697185 34352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, that was meant to be "Bike:" < 1388697216 279271 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is now known as a Bike-proxy
< 1388697342 243349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is that when you ride on an exercise bike, and it's remotely connected to the handlebars and pedals of a real bike somewhere out there in, say, the streets of London < 1388697376 980383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a camera that keeps track of where it's going, so you get a view from the bike < 1388697396 851241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what this technology is useful yet, but it sounds like an intereting idea < 1388697493 577560 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there are things for rendering a virtual environment you can exercise-bike through. < 1388697497 152334 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being a courier is a dangerous job. with remote-controlled bikes, this removes almost all possibilities of grievous bodily harm. < 1388697502 394617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like a high-fidelity version of that. < 1388697524 214149 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, because it's made of bikes, it's eco-friendly and keeps you in shape! < 1388697524 417498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like boily's idea better < 1388697530 67838 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon to begin deliveries by bike drone < 1388697542 404597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I doubt it's that eco-friendly < 1388697550 620071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They could offer a feature where the customer gets to drive the bike. < 1388697557 690855 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you won't generate much electricity on the exercise bike, not really enough to offset the needs of the bike drone < 1388697559 988202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be far better than reloading the package status tracking page. < 1388697565 830028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something from Black Mirror < 1388697580 908077 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION raps on Bike with a maple stick
< 1388697583 698710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, they could do that for their quadcopter delivery things, I think that'd be enormously popular. < 1388697599 952991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Plus no need to build fancy software to fly.) < 1388697625 7271 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they'd almost certainly be flown into buildings and each other and the like < 1388697627 468297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used to spy on people < 1388697630 377798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to build a bike drone < 1388697634 585114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, a robot bike < 1388697686 188141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perhaps they'd offer it only when their heuristics say the object being ordered is so desirable, the person controlling it will be extra careful. < 1388697703 674869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And also fly it straight home without dallying around.) < 1388697725 833695 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: help < 1388697730 865881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there many autonomous two-wheeled devices? < 1388697748 249436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or autonomous unicycles, for that matter. < 1388697752 62319 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, something relevant for Hexhamites < 1388697775 927040 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh, jaffa cakes and things < 1388697791 139280 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1388697795 634977 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like jaffa cakes < 1388697800 808616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Taneb/shachaf conversation looks weird even if you read scrollback < 1388697830 163332 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, this is #esoteric, it's practically weird by definition < 1388697834 24630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :autonomous unicycle might be easier < 1388697849 739636 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: something I wanted to invent was a self-balancing unicycle < 1388697853 764518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't require any skill from the rider < 1388697859 178697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a "100 unicycle collision avoidance 2" video in youtube, but I can't tell what I'm looking at. It's just a bunch of wireframe circles. < 1388697861 464095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just sit on it motionless and it would stay upright < 1388697866 531337 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still need to learn to ride the unicycle < 1388697888 549478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also some actual unicycle robots.) < 1388697891 631355 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/LdjY6oy4Y2c < 1388697924 548758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So... you wanted to invent a *boring* unicycle? < 1388697944 337222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: well, the unicycle itself would be interesting; riding it would be boring, though < 1388697953 514046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There was a video of that, actually. < 1388697968 432495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT8F7fRV5fc I don't know if it's a real thing or not. < 1388697992 822179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you might have wanted something you still pedal. < 1388698005 844082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one's just basically a unicycle segway. < 1388698041 803747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I think I prefer a unicycle segway < 1388698051 220139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, some engineers at Google tried to show me a Segway once but it wasn't working < 1388698079 870560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one isn't nearly as tall as I wanted, though < 1388698109 725865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3-X but that's pretty similar. < 1388698229 301825 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An error has occurred while searching: Pool queue is full" I don't think Wikipedia search has given me that before. < 1388698272 828891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EcoBoomer Co., Ltd. Is A Leading Manufacturer Of Self-Balancing Electric Human Transporters, E-Bikes, & Electric Unicycles" fancy, a leading electric unicycle manufacturer. < 1388698299 671462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joining the likes of the eniCycle, Solowheel and SBU, we now have the LED-light-strip-adorned EcoBoomer iGo." < 1388698304 55124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's like a whole pile of them. < 1388698306 218291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can't tell whether I like jaffa cakes. < 1388698314 73710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's so much mystique surrounding them that it's difficult to tell. < 1388698347 809730 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd want a self-balancing bike < 1388698357 120804 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a regular bike < 1388698361 774714 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with two wheels and all < 1388698408 885497 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not sure if you can steer with it then < 1388698435 562716 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it would be cool for like front breaks < 1388698442 805306 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like an ABS system for bikes < 1388698460 807729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inverse pendulums are quite something. < 1388698492 191247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a self-balancing electric bike in the search results when I was looking for the unicycles. < 1388698591 10815 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388698611 44234 :lala!ba6986f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.134.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1388698634 249631 :lala!ba6986f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.134.243 NICK :Guest83766 < 1388698670 405075 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've wanted a solowheel for so long < 1388698675 773512 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why do they think that a self balancing bike is useful? < 1388698680 679443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some people would just say this is magic, but it's really gyroscopes." < 1388698699 112540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.marriedtothesea.com/033107/gyroscopes.gif < 1388698705 709228 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It practically really balances itself without any actual self-balancing stuff < 1388698708 799365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ecoboomer looks pretty stupid < 1388698722 284819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a rideable toilet < 1388698740 96149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Well, it's not really a "bike", it's got thing you sit in and all. Basically, it's like taking a tiny car and trying to make it even smaller. < 1388698749 911866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Perhaps they could integrate that functionality in. < 1388698756 76488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :could even be a power source < 1388698806 205821 :Guest83766!ba6986f3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.134.243 QUIT :Client Quit < 1388698816 626229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"self-balancing electric transporters" i see i'm getting sidelined here :< < 1388698833 73216 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/ecoboomer-igo-self-balancing-electric-unicycle-7.jpg wow, it /does/ look like a toilet. < 1388698845 19932 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: did you see the video of swarm quadcopters throwing inverted pendulums? < 1388698852 581806 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, fun < 1388698864 439173 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"does it look like a toilet" should be on every consumer product design checklist < 1388698884 604747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah those quadcopters were so cute < 1388698894 293646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way they do a little dance to stabilize when they catch the pole < 1388698901 481468 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooookay this is bad. < 1388698907 17788 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 360° flip after they toss it < 1388698946 838331 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nsnbc.me/2013/12/30/tepco-quietly-admits-reactor-3-melting-now/ < 1388699016 870622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuck < 1388699026 502026 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :google "nsnbc" and tell me that's a legit news organisation < 1388699042 893171 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay the sources might be right < 1388699045 418759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They also sounded like angry bees in at least the one video I saw. < 1388699047 276611 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Persons residing on the west coast of North America should IMMEDIATELY begin preparing for another possible onslaught of dangerous atmospheric radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster site in Japan.” < 1388699047 480035 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's .me? < 1388699051 64409 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a real domain < 1388699058 191064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the steam is reported by other news orgs < 1388699060 59580 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one of those funky new domains? < 1388699073 246781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: it's intended for personal websites, I think < 1388699077 385907 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Montenegro. < 1388699079 331752 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1388699106 255540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All those countries with "good" ccTLDs must be p. happy they can repurpose them for whatever. < 1388699116 811237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently i'm supposed to cover every part of my house with plastic < 1388699121 929412 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "Wash obsessively" < 1388699125 81406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tonga, the country of URL shorteners (.to) and so on. < 1388699131 765265 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Domainme.png < 1388699141 565878 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone link me a non-stupid report on this :/ < 1388699145 234373 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1388699151 362405 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this article is really bad. < 1388699154 773733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu-news/2013/1233248_5304.html < 1388699166 680553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gizmodo.com/radioactive-mystery-steam-over-fukushima-could-mean-ano-1492280971 < 1388699185 267192 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a 50% off Crusader Kings II Steam coupon thingy for some reason. Just showed up in my steam inventory just now if anyone is interested. I already own the game from some bundle or other. < 1388699213 797785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[Tepco via The Ecologist via Fark]" i hate the future < 1388699220 517055 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i see "93 Bq/L" in here < 1388699300 139787 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :TEPCO will probably be stupid on the other end of the scale :V < 1388699301 170067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They sometimes do a "give a X% off coupon for game A to everyone who owns game B"; I got a "random" 20% off Velocity Ultra for owning Stealth Bastard Deluxe. < 1388699303 430377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have two 20% off "Velocity Ultra", and two 10% off "Toki Tori 2". Not interested in either. Again, if anyone is interested in that or the Crusaders King II one... < 1388699312 564354 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"widely apologize for the great inconvenience and worry Regarding that you have, I would like apologize from the bottom of my heart. " < 1388699318 224224 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, just one? < 1388699333 841931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. I guess you might've owned Hotline Miami too? < 1388699343 434184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They gave another 20% off coupon for people owning that.) < 1388699423 973751 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388699443 571707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so you are not interested in any of those? < 1388699473 325464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. I can't seem to manage to really play even the games I have. (Though I have been catching up over the holiday season.) < 1388699513 690834 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I can strongly recommend Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons if you haven't played it. My game of the year easily. < 1388699523 716538 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you do need a game pad though < 1388699570 499865 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, would be nice if you could trade those coupons, like those silly trading cards and what not... < 1388699581 462117 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can trade them, you just can't market them. < 1388699588 699838 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, yeah that is what I meant < 1388699592 432029 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing terminology < 1388699621 693017 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one trade stuff btw? I see no button here for it < 1388699625 148806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Steam forums have quite a lot of threads about people looking to trade their X% off coupons for something they actually want. < 1388699637 972854 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "trade offers" button at top of the inventory. < 1388699645 369894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make offers from there. < 1388699645 612757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yeah < 1388699651 147489 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thing is, I currently don't want to buy anything < 1388699679 991603 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@bb-216-195-185-231.gwi.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388699686 298349 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have way too many unplayed games, plus I have some issues with my wrists (possibly carpal tunnel), meaning I keep gaming to a minimum < 1388699697 185672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I traded one (1) Holiday Coal coal to one (1) Holiday Coal back when they were doing the coal thing, because you got something for having a trade. < 1388699707 705505 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1388699722 67742 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never use the social features of steam really < 1388699734 67781 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-64-42.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388699756 47473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sold all the snow globe cards from community choice voting, because they'd evaporate soon, and I don't think I would've gotten the full set of 10 anyway. < 1388699781 993180 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been "offline" in the friends menu since day one. Never played a multiplayer game through steam that actually used steam for it. (Unlike, say, Terraria, which afair did it like minecraft, just input the server IP) < 1388699793 342801 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, same < 1388699821 829401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like seeing the "X is now playing Y" notices from one of my many (5) Steam Friends. For no particular reason. < 1388699827 482797 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-8.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388699836 286592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all IRL friends, though. I guess it's some kind of stalking instinct. < 1388699880 830163 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have IRL friends who I play *computer* games with. < 1388699908 182870 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I don't play games with these people, as a general rule. I just like to see what they're up to. < 1388699913 97642 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1388699923 567519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(With a single exception of playing through the Portal 2 co-op thing with one of them.) < 1388699925 936661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, my friends list on steam is empty < 1388699940 312904 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even use Steam < 1388699967 933902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone on my friend list has more Steam XP than I do, I think. < 1388699992 120512 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't really play much multiplayer at all... Minecraft, Terraria and FlightGear are the only ones I ever play(ed) multiplayer regularly in. A few other ones I tried a few times, but "meh" < 1388700001 729322 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Steam have implemented an arbitrary number that you need to pay them money to increase? < 1388700001 932266 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :steam xp? < 1388700017 30592 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is steam xp < 1388700032 780863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You don't need to pay money. Though I think some ways to increment the number involve money. < 1388700042 946553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Mostly it's about using the community features, I think. < 1388700047 601064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well you presumably need to play Steam games for most methods of increasing it < 1388700048 412898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's what determines your Steam Level. < 1388700056 463939 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, steam level? < 1388700060 508836 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is that < 1388700073 683862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's a number. See, it's like a RPG. You collect some exp, you gain levels. < 1388700086 958874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Community choice voting requires a minimum Steam level, too. < 1388700090 425783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamify gaming < 1388700095 821161 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I completely missed that < 1388700097 198352 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-8.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :world aghast as for-profit gaming service implements for-profit games < 1388700103 79325 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it? Oh well < 1388700106 771625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems I am level 8 < 1388700113 84716 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't give a shit though < 1388700150 662022 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh there are achievements for steam itself? "Pillar of community, 13/26" < 1388700153 619972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's probably true, admittedly. But I don't think people buy games for the purpose of playing them because of the Steam XP, I guess. < 1388700156 474656 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or what the hell is this < 1388700163 989700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They're for crafting "badges". < 1388700168 317472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: /someone/ probably does < 1388700175 541241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that's the main way of getting XP. < 1388700181 755014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are people who buy xbox games just for easy achievements < 1388700190 301291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card drops are tied into that, too. < 1388700194 639748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and people who make games specifically so that those people will buy them < 1388700199 201814 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-8.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :consumers gonna consume < 1388700203 837772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(When you get a full set, you can craft a badge, and that nets some XP.) < 1388700209 986180 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, seems I have some of those. Oh well, don't really care < 1388700252 87124 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have 16/26 of the Pillar of Community tasks done. < 1388700257 634250 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate achievements. Usually it is either just "got to point x in story" or it is like "did stupid thing that doesn't make sense in the plot of the game" < 1388700285 695219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the latter sort of achievement makes sense, so long as you view it as an optional goal to aim for when you're aware of what it is < 1388700295 845265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than as something you're meant to get in normal play < 1388700308 818116 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there are exceptions, but I can't think of any. Possibly with the exception of The Stanley Parable. Where the achievements pokes fun at achievements < 1388700344 213182 :boily!~boily@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1388700348 37026 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1388700354 300442 :metasepia!~metasepia@207.112.39.31 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1388700363 22589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I could do most of these missing tasks, there's things like "set a profile background". < 1388700375 222143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Use a Steam Emoticon in chat" I'd do that, but I don't know how. < 1388700380 298046 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, would you do it just for a badge? < 1388700393 410634 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolang-book.route477.net/ https://github.com/yhara/esolang-book-website < 1388700428 491790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know. I guess I might? I do have a mild case of "can't help myself" when it comes to achievement-y things. < 1388700464 94946 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I think it might make more sense to make those badges tie to e.g. completing all achievements in the game; then they'd at least have something to do with the game in question. < 1388700465 323251 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-8.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what < 1388700499 608840 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think doing a silly thing like riding a horse up a near vertical cliff in skyrim is a reward in and of itself, due to the induced laughing from the glitching horse (also that specific one has no achivement afaik, it was just an example of a silly thing) < 1388700504 488064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: many games are near-impossible to get all the achievements in < 1388700513 74071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I thought the existence of a physical esolangs book might interest. < 1388700519 112691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1388700537 483803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it just one of those books that's autogenerated from Wikipedia in the hope that someone buys it? < 1388700544 339549 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did someone actually write it? < 1388700548 590702 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I guess I could see the point of things like "ghosted the entire Deux Ex" or some achievement like that, awarded at the end of the game < 1388700557 887579 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, well, that's why they could make some kind of a reward for it. Currently Steam just says something like "good job", and that's it. < 1388700565 514333 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. translation services exist that can answer such questions equally well but more efficiently than I can < 1388700572 612520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say "Google Translate" but I suspect you have a moral objection to using it.. < 1388700583 128012 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that is genuine bragging rights to some degree. Most achivements are not. < 1388700605 284584 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new edition is coming out on the 7th, seemingly < 1388700609 807534 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-63-234.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1388700610 6328 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-63-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :watching #esoteric complain about a formalization of doing weird things in games is amusing < 1388700613 335484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I asked the question before I followed the link < 1388700615 540928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh! "Steam Emoticons" are not the regular emoticons you can use. < 1388700634 574370 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh? < 1388700635 596650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Emoticons are dropped when crafting trading cards and are tradable." < 1388700641 800073 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking hell < 1388700642 999100 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-8.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1388700648 13130 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-63-234.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1388700648 863352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently you have to get an emoticon drop before you can use it in a conversation. < 1388700650 820964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the language... but... < 1388700658 920442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it's a one-time-use or if you "unlock" it for all time. < 1388700667 153015 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "Emoticons are dropped when crafting trading cards and are tradable." < 1388700670 331115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is kind of hilarious. < 1388700671 71837 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1154) "Emoticons are dropped when crafting trading cards and are tradable." < 1388700686 782615 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, this is like a bad TCG < 1388700698 565171 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of a TCG where the cards are craftable < 1388700701 645646 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have any gameplay *except* from getting the card < 1388700704 492725 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Hearthstone < 1388700705 662754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Emoticons are little symbols or pictures given to a user once they have crafted a badge. Emoticons are used in Steam Chat, either by typing the shortcut to that emoticon (which is surrounded by colons - for example, :crate: for the Team Fortress 2 crate emoticon), or by selecting the image from the selection box of emoticons. < 1388700710 678730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A few basic emoticons are included in Steam that everyone can access, but most are only available if you own the emoticon (which is an item stored in your Steam inventory.) Anyone can see an emoticon that you've used in a message to them even if they don't own the emoticon themselves. < 1388700715 683249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emoticons come in 3 rarities: common, uncommon and rare. You can receive an emoticon of any rarity when you craft a badge, but the higher the level of badge that you craft, the greater the chances that you'll receive an uncommon or rare badge." < 1388700718 501573 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you can craft by destroying enough other cards to get dust or something like that < 1388700719 692771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's even three levels of rarities. < 1388700728 815843 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wouldn't work in a non-digital TCG of course < 1388700759 912321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, very much TCG mechanics < 1388700783 438638 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: restarting < 1388700803 197811 :AwfulProgrammer!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rmmyjbvlgkskugux QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388700804 659900 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1388700840 109047 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have the "make a trade" task marked as done, I must've done that coal-for-coal thing before the badges were a thing. < 1388700857 767058 :_46bit!sid10106@pdpc/supporter/student/mmokrysz QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388700883 992488 :conehead_!uid16140@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bfmhatldhsnfmuru QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388700895 744383 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vwmpyawduhezrfam QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388700897 928907 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, seems I got some cards from playing garry's mod at some point. < 1388700898 782618 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yobjcklnhecayner JOIN :#esoteric < 1388700899 843189 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-milybjmgwqzrphmn JOIN :#esoteric < 1388700908 742922 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that separate from crafting? < 1388700921 388640 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :How *do* you craft on steam < 1388700923 660396 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-milybjmgwqzrphmn NICK :Guest7487 < 1388700932 694416 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You get a couple (three, four?) for pretty much any card-enabled game just by playing it. < 1388700954 774782 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also it says I have the pillar of community thing but it also says it isn't completed on another page < 1388700957 15698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, you're eligible for that many initially, and they drop pretty quickly; if you spend a couple of hours in-game, you'll probably get all those. < 1388700957 889435 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how that works < 1388700965 528437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's different levels of Pillar of Community. < 1388701001 508778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :X out of 26 for level 1 (I've got that too); 22 of 26 for level 2; presumably 26/26 for level 3 or something. < 1388701005 454696 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nah it says "Complete 14 of 26 Steam Community tasks to earn the Level 1 badge." and I have 13 < 1388701010 69733 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1388701019 935456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, maybe they added more stuff in later? < 1388701037 636803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure you have it? Incomplete ones are also listed on the "badges" page. < 1388701038 278722 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I had enough earlier < 1388701051 864523 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to Badges and clicked "completed" < 1388701052 62838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That could also be the case. < 1388701056 507420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1388701061 689198 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely that would only list completed ones < 1388701064 89873 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cmwfqsmhyzgpwtbz QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388701081 227650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they might've been adding more tasks. < 1388701085 714449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it doesn't say when I unlocked it, or what level it is at < 1388701098 481924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1388701115 868597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says "Unlocked: 14 Nov, 2013 @ 12:25am" for my level 1 in the "completed" list. < 1388701132 796180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't explicitly say "level 1" anywhere, just that I need to do 22/26 for level 2. < 1388701138 241211 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I would have gotten it way earlier than this year if I unlocked it < 1388701145 821412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't done much on steam the last year or so < 1388701198 917231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I don't really know how you get more cards than the ones you're initially eligible for. AIUI, you'll get "booster packs" (another TCG term there) randomly, as soon as you keep logging in to Steam, but I don't think I've ever gotten one. < 1388701227 736588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in general to actually craft badges you're supposed to trade cards you don't want, or something. < 1388701237 594159 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1388701240 874214 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps (more likely) buy them on the market, because Valve gets a cut. < 1388701241 806949 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rkedwizxnyhtqwdp JOIN :#esoteric < 1388701263 876902 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all selling for something like 0.04-0.10€/card. < 1388701285 774568 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is pretty terrible. Yet people seem to want to do it, since I sold the stuff I got when voting on the sale this time around, and most got sold within half an hour < 1388701292 566806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same here. < 1388701302 154257 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that this business model is even viable hurts my head < 1388701310 727993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The number of random booster packs generated depends on the number of badges crafted, and I guess I don't really pay "popular" games. < 1388701335 654197 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well I doubt it would stand on it's own. They sell the games too. That is probably a much larger income source than people trading cards. < 1388701338 167208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't think they've released any statistics, but I suppose it's all just extra icing on top of their "actual business" of selling games. < 1388701386 160091 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pogozqnqbtwnqlci QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1388701388 492930 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Summing up all the sales data resulted in stunning numbers that I want to share with you: In the past year (since dec'12) there was a trade volume of ~$38.9 million shared on ~58.0 million transactions. Valve gets 15% of each market sale, so nearly $6 million for doing nothing but letting steam users sell millions of items." < 1388701390 309177 :HaliteTablet!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzajfyfyjqtahkbn QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1388701408 670214 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy crap, there are 19 DLC for Saints Row 4 already. That game isn't all that old < 1388701409 689954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess that's a reasonably large number. < 1388701410 48775 :typeclassy!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqtzihsmfhiqshdv QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388701430 431221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totalling, *when on 60% sale* 31.02 EUR < 1388701442 957706 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is insane < 1388701455 320803 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Hey, that's nothing compared to TS2014 DLC or something. < 1388701468 378125 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :TrainSimulator I *expect* that sort of thing from < 1388701483 924157 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not from Saints Row < 1388701490 402624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2379.53 EUR for all TS2014 DLC. < 1388701498 874464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Wonder how many people have bought all of it.) < 1388701502 282443 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzznfqtnjptxilqp JOIN :#esoteric < 1388701505 904552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I much preferred the model of base game followed half a year or more down the line with a big expansion pack < 1388701507 496945 :HaliteTablet!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edfuynmxhxlztsnd JOIN :#esoteric < 1388701515 445419 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, very few I hope < 1388701526 807816 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rkedwizxnyhtqwdp QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388701533 443957 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zaksxnbylkcgbynd JOIN :#esoteric < 1388701555 903420 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I would guess that most people just get the couple of trains they are really interested in and so on < 1388701580 317844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: There's a "Not Recommended | 1,423.0 hrs on record" review on the TS2014 store page; most comments are to the tune of "didn't like but played over a thousand hours???". (It's from someone who dislikes the new upgrade; Steam counts playtime of older versions in there.) < 1388701600 120482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh < 1388701629 816892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well normally I would say that person is well qualified to give an opinion < 1388701639 702595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike the guy who played 5 minutes < 1388701645 132308 :iamcal!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzjxnxprqwfbssvt JOIN :#esoteric < 1388701662 463088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably over-qualified even < 1388701740 759887 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game (got from some recent indie bundle) has a terrible name in my steam game list: "AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! for the Awesome" < 1388701742 62662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess two kiloeuros isn't very much money to put in a hobby in the end, anyway; people sure waste a lot more than that. < 1388701774 107817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got Aaaa[...] too; it was in the most recent "PC and Android" bundle I bought mostly for Gemini Rue, Little Inferno and maybe Bard's Tale. < 1388701790 362382 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well yeah, if you get into photography you can easily top that < 1388701827 520379 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42972.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388701836 668430 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I got Bard's Tale from some earlier bundle iirc. Kind of funny I guess, but that humor doesn't really click with me. Too childish a lot of the time < 1388701859 773536 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp, http://esolangs.org/wiki/Ruby%E3%81%A7%E4%BD%9C%E3%82%8B%E5%A5%87%E5%A6%99%E3%81%AA%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%9F%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E8%A8%80%E8%AA%9E < 1388701865 220111 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also pretty ugly < 1388701874 361424 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on Chrome, did you really have to escape that whole thing? :/ < 1388701878 937615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice! < 1388701894 22539 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, heh my font fails at that on the page. Works in the title bar though < 1388701911 445872 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yobjcklnhecayner QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388701914 500923 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was supposed to fall back to another font if it failed to find the glyph?? < 1388701933 91630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it didn't really impress very much so far. < 1388701935 110470 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wuzkcyyvslnvcjvc QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388701947 821433 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the book is only $27 if you preorder it, by the way! < 1388701957 699704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :...plus shipping from Japan < 1388701966 598182 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also buy a PDF if you are boring < 1388701978 659566 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, not free shipping? < 1388701999 933854 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :from Japan? I kind of doubt it. < 1388702002 975114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I haven't tried. < 1388702010 148049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ordered something from japan once < 1388702014 302195 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was in japanese < 1388702024 852577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, were you expecting that? < 1388702029 322643 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1388702033 834346 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i still couldn't read it < 1388702036 183092 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1388702048 955528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Incidentally, apparently a 10% of all Steam market trading card sales goes to the game developer, and only 5% to Valve (forming the 15% cut that doesn't go to the seller). < 1388702054 868411 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bexiwpubxgkiknhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702060 764714 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, IIRC google translate has some sort of OCR mode in the android app for it < 1388702064 789767 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohovwztrzbjwmdyn JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702065 770510 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried it < 1388702069 73946 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably terrible < 1388702094 809960 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, except for the sale cards, which go all to steam I expect? < 1388702098 961912 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Translate's performance on Japanese itself isn't that great to begin with... < 1388702124 585961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, I guess Valve counts as the "developer" of the holiday sale. < 1388702150 847694 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxzcmivnthyxuevk JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702167 166477 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone, Norwegian -> Swedish (which should be fairly easily you think, since the languages are quite closely related) was pretty bad. It kept inserting negations in random sentences, changing the meaning completely of the text. < 1388702168 705724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But at least the developers get something out of it too. (Though maybe that's just an incentive to put trading card support in their game. Though I guess Valve might give them other incentives too.) < 1388702187 692042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It probably goes Norwegian -> English -> Swedish for that. < 1388702197 149191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly < 1388702231 894440 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chinese-to-English tends to be quite bad too. < 1388702247 773543 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the support consists of creating some cards and dropping them when a play time counter reached a certain value? < 1388702249 703355 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it? < 1388702250 821440 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything -> Latin is awful < 1388702258 860155 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, a lot of machine translation systems use English as an intermediate language. < 1388702289 203823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Possibly only the former; the latter might well be a built-in feature of the Steam overlay. < 1388702306 267131 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, But I have the overlay turned off, and I still got some cards < 1388702326 32769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the Steam client, then. It knows when you're in-game, anyway. < 1388702351 556565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The card images probably come from the game developers, at least. < 1388702354 761969 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohovwztrzbjwmdyn QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388702356 570469 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm that would be interesting for skyrim. I usually launch that with the script extended thingy instead, SKSE < 1388702363 776955 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't think steam is 100% aware of that < 1388702380 382220 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really do not like the overlay. I do not want to see achivements pop up in the corner and breaking my immersion in games where immersion is a key factor < 1388702382 546876 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the Steam overlay even when launching via NMM + SKSE. < 1388702395 451950 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1388702400 562798 :HaliteTablet!uid7873@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edfuynmxhxlztsnd QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388702404 751551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't really know how it all works.) < 1388702418 523729 :Guest7487!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-milybjmgwqzrphmn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388702420 972790 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I guess steam *does* need to be running for it to work so yeah < 1388702432 397563 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of that DRM and all. < 1388702435 405596 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gahejhxuzrxznmbb JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702451 125793 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I preferred the oblivion way: Have the CD mounted. < 1388702468 150701 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course for convenience you just use an image file and mount it as a CD < 1388702483 171753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that is easily bypassed < 1388702505 508505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if I should sell my Skyrim trading cards, it's not like I'll ever be completing any of these sets. < 1388702548 880146 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I try to buy games on gog.com instead. Much better customer service, DRM free, and usually include at least some extras such as extra printed materials or sound track as well < 1388702570 278438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I should probably sell all my trading cards. All 5. < 1388702572 794898 :_46bit_!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vfxlobptoqkupjyq JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702583 123638 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of them sell for really little. < 1388702589 525867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Incidentally, do you happen to know if you can use Steam Wallet money to deduct from the price of a regular Steam purchase?) < 1388702599 849554 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.05 EUR for one of the garry's mod ones < 1388702609 449555 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah it happens automatically < 1388702622 276324 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for me < 1388702637 87995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good. Though I guess it might take quite a while before I buy something again in Steam. < 1388702671 142985 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, 0.04 EUR for one of the cards from the summer holiday sale. Seems those are still valid though unlike the cards for this sale, which will soon be invalid. Hm < 1388702686 88835 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bexiwpubxgkiknhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1388702695 293922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to have 19 trading cards (4x Deponia, 4x McPixel, 4x Scribblenauts, 3x Super Meat Boy, 4x Skyrim). < 1388702700 306690 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gahejhxuzrxznmbb QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388702714 747238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming an average of 0.05 EUR, that'd mean... almost a whole euro! < 1388702719 934019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such fortune. < 1388702731 859833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 5 from playing games, and 7 from the summer sale < 1388702744 444284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the game ones I have are worth a bit more < 1388702760 666375 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The portal 2 one 0.1 EUR < 1388702774 49582 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uagzvuhbnffgzgeq JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702775 404141 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzznfqtnjptxilqp QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388702803 794024 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, The "missing textures" one from GM looks pretty nice though. Pink and black chess board pattern < 1388702819 354088 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sticks out like a sore thumb in the steam inventory < 1388702858 884998 :_46bit_!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vfxlobptoqkupjyq QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388702887 627702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Deponia cards sell for 0.10 EUR, McPixel for 0.03-0.05 EUR, Scribblenauts for 0.05-0.06 EUR, Super Meat Boy for... ooh, 0.13 EUR (!), and Skyrim for 0.11-0.12 EUR or so. < 1388702901 997368 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arrejrazcfoejarl JOIN :#esoteric < 1388702933 222795 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you have to trade something in both directions for a trade? < 1388702934 596882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I might get up to 1.5 EUR from selling all of them. Even better. I'll be swimming in virtual money soon. < 1388702939 417552 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I want to get rid of the coupons < 1388702947 728820 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to give them away really < 1388702953 676462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can do a unidirectional trade, but not sure. < 1388702967 599856 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1388702973 245971 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I try to use Google Translate to find out what the Japanese cat cafés are saying, it's always nonsense < 1388702975 490531 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zaksxnbylkcgbynd QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1388702982 737269 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they use too many cat puns though < 1388703018 28728 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Though I don't know, because giftability is a separately tracked thing, and a unidirectional trade is pretty close to a gift. (Without the gift-y trappings, though.) < 1388703029 983653 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what trappings? < 1388703034 430332 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: are they meowing < 1388703039 500994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nyaning or something < 1388703042 461239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gif-ability < 1388703045 86387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that is not japanese but cat < 1388703047 450999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're nya-ing at least < 1388703048 405734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I think you can send it as a fancy email message or something? < 1388703053 907942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know, I've never gotten a Steam gift. < 1388703063 350811 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that works < 1388703067 454365 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388703092 951362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: When I try to use GT to find out what my (Finnish) friend is saying (in Chinese, at his Weibo microblog), it's quite often nonsense too. < 1388703111 93165 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you considered being a cat when you grow up < 1388703111 855253 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh, the price for the summer sale trading cards all went up marginally around the start of the current sale. < 1388703115 287866 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why < 1388703118 127109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes < 1388703122 271770 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo do it < 1388703129 534445 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i tried the Necomimi mind-reading motorized cat ears < 1388703130 126770 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A couple of cents mostly < 1388703239 636986 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, my Deponia card sold immediately. < 1388703252 581662 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all very bizarre. < 1388703256 22561 :upgrayeddd!uid2969@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iohrvcytpvlwlzvm JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703263 925195 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow that was quick. I put up those 5 game cards for sale like 4 minutes ago. They are all sold already < 1388703272 414703 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1388703279 8487 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arrejrazcfoejarl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388703282 893517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess people are buying them? < 1388703288 620625 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1388703316 725906 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should put them up for a bit more than the market value next time and see if I get lucky with it being the cheapest at the point of sale by chance < 1388703341 157794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what kind of benefits you get from a high Steam Level. < 1388703360 811819 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you said voting on community thingy before? < 1388703369 782121 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyoffibecymseqeb JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703375 157847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that, but there's probably something else too. < 1388703383 710187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you can "pimp" your profile more, the higher your level is. < 1388703393 367324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: weren't you just mocking the idea of doing this kinda thing before < 1388703406 310257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Showcase (more) badges, make a custom info box, that kind of stuff. < 1388703452 483524 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I'm mocking the idea of buying this stuff. But if I get cards for just playing games I want to play, of course I'm going to sell them, since I do not say no to money < 1388703461 122905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, legal money that is < 1388703468 846445 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What are the direct benefits of my Steam Level? You get more options to customize your profile, and the maximum number of friends you can have on your friends list increases." < 1388703475 204442 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xcquqnfiloqxuxho JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703480 50751 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you would do anything that gives you money just because it's legal < 1388703481 374994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once you reach Steam Level 10 you can pick and customize a showcase from the profile edit page. Each 10 Steam Levels earns you an extra showcase, i.e. two showcases at Level 20, three showcases at Level 30, etc." < 1388703489 173990 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you would then you're dangerous < 1388703496 123571 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well no, but this require no effort at all. < 1388703503 970477 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And doesn't hurt anyone < 1388703516 58208 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except possibly those stupid enough to spend money on this stuff < 1388703524 514436 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguable, it hurts people sucked into buying these things for various psychological reasons < 1388703568 908264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you ascribe addiction to gambling type things to stupidity then you have a rather shallow understanding :/ < 1388703606 705494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure these people are addicted to gambling, since they can clearly see which card and what it costs. < 1388703607 769285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Also, turns out you can't do the "set profile background" task of the Pillar of Community by just, you know, uploading a background image. No, you have to get a background image drop from crafting a badge. Then you can set it as your background profile, or trade/sell it away. < 1388703614 892735 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you gather another complete set of trading cards for the same game you can upgrade that game badge. You can craft a set for the same game at most five times. Each time you upgrade the game badge you'll get an extra 100XP, as well as upgrading the image and title of the badge." <-- jesus crist < 1388703646 593141 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I guess they want to avoid penises and such < 1388703648 7393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you're also likelier to get rare drops from higher-level badges. < 1388703650 27907 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "gambling type things" < 1388703650 786414 :typeclassy_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vyoffibecymseqeb QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1388703652 982472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i going to have to manually set prices for every card i own < 1388703653 825594 :Guest7487!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kdieebblmwrdwpab JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703654 13795 :Guest7487!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kdieebblmwrdwpab NICK :_46bit < 1388703660 902407 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think a lot of these trading type systems aren't designed to exploit people then ... < 1388703678 37163 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uagzvuhbnffgzgeq QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388703682 496361 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes you need to sell them one by one from what I can tell < 1388703683 996768 :_46bit!sid10106@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kdieebblmwrdwpab NICK :Guest65919 < 1388703690 593089 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you own a lot that would be annoying yes < 1388703697 73651 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh yes they are < 1388703704 423617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You can probably already get penises in via screenshot upload feature and versatile-enough games, but I guess there's that. < 1388703725 143817 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well as long as garry's mod exists yes < 1388703732 843359 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703747 321121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any moddable game for that matter < 1388703758 864201 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: and you see nothing unethical about exploitation? < 1388703760 640290 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :or any source engine game with sprays < 1388703765 176929 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :w0t. < 1388703768 854762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you decided they're stupider than you...? < 1388703789 577068 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, steam doing it. Me just clearing out my inventory of 5 cards for a total of 0.26 EUR, not so much. < 1388703803 440708 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, except he's not exploiting anyone; steam are, he's just mildly complicit (and you're already complicit by using steam at all) < 1388703814 551140 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, good summary yes < 1388703825 19200 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xcquqnfiloqxuxho QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1388703878 639533 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes in a sense I guess I'm allowing this to happen to a very slightly larger degree by selling my selling my cards. On the other hand, the price will be lowered by people flooding the market, meaning these addicted people will have to spend less money < 1388703891 213964 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/selling my// < 1388703893 777405 :AwfulProgrammer_!uid11324@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ziyzowojbmgofdhq JOIN :#esoteric < 1388703906 765627 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is that second point not valid? < 1388703924 486850 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If very few people sold cards the price would rise instead. < 1388703947 160694 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sure, there are degrees of complicitness though. anyway, I wasn't actually trying to say what he did was immoral < 1388703952 385838 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that the justification "I don't say no to money" is nonsense < 1388703982 527055 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes I realized right after I said that, that it was badly worded < 1388704025 181407 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they do *foiled* trading cards? For digital only cards? Really? < 1388704064 721677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1388704075 569363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they have a shinier graphic? < 1388704078 929000 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen one ever. < 1388704085 806414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why couldn't steam let you play a game with the trading cards, like MTG or Hearthstone does. Instead of just trading the cards... < 1388704092 564267 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nor me < 1388704100 673421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also I hadn't realized the maximum number of friends is based on Steam Level.) < 1388704137 659414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, are you anywhere near the limit though? < 1388704186 854407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not just maximum number of steam friends < 1388704194 567319 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the maximum number of actual friends you can have < 1388704199 537341 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know, I'm not sure where the limit is listed. < 1388704199 987542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this steam business is important < 1388704206 802312 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :AH < 1388704208 954704 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah* < 1388704211 489503 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I doubt it's "5", though. < 1388704228 521332 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "Friends: 5 / 330". < 1388704238 153542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems I'm not quite in danger of running out of slots, then. < 1388704262 805358 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 / 330 < 1388704264 8545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.5151515151515152e-2 < 1388704301 388514 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm I have a badge called "Power Player". Seems it is based on how many games I own since it says "248 games owned" in the description. It also has the icon of the text "100+". I think I bought around 15-20 games directly on steam though. The rest is all indie bundles. < 1388704324 825265 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :has as the icon* < 1388704338 425991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a hell of a lot of games... < 1388704350 329205 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them are probably bad too < 1388704367 552996 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I'm at least no interested in most of them < 1388704373 379266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the "Collection Agent" (same, but 50+) badge. < 1388704379 120589 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388704401 585102 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, interestingly I get 497 XP from that badge. What a weird number < 1388704424 712328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 497 / 248 < 1388704425 891867 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2.004032258064516 < 1388704429 842348 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :games*2+1? Kind of curious. < 1388704431 920444 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, didn't think so < 1388704433 624073 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1388704435 112390 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1388704453 114922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, a friend of mine has a Snow Globe 2013 *foil* badge. < 1388704465 359894 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the difference? < 1388704483 464043 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also there is quite a lot of linux games on steam these days < 1388704483 652056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The icon is all silvery. < 1388704491 184728 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gold? Oh well < 1388704533 555459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Incidentally, you only need two more games for the Game Mechanic (250+) badge. < 1388704556 7233 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, I guess the next indie bundle which I want like 1-2 games from will provide that < 1388704575 590870 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of indie bundle, wasn't there a new humble weekly one now? < 1388704603 102705 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah point and clicks. And I own all but one < 1388704605 208958 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1388704618 400436 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't care about Shelter < 1388704627 462582 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Skipping that one < 1388704631 811389 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1388704651 278379 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I don't own Lume either. Hm *checks out the video* < 1388704719 259751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite liked Botanicula and Machinarium. < 1388704731 684042 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've already got both of those. < 1388704732 834252 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :machinarium is great < 1388704809 44442 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, if you liked machinarium, give Botanicula a try. Same developer. Same feeling to it. < 1388704825 732528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's all bio and not robo. < 1388704843 124447 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yes < 1388704907 915711 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also don't try to play Machinarium on a Nexus 10 tablet. It really isn't made for such a high DPI screen and it uses pixel based graphics. < 1388704914 787222 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite unplayable < 1388704932 731147 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost as bad as Avadon on the Nexus 10. < 1388704953 975044 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhggovjrdwrimcah JOIN :#esoteric < 1388704954 384377 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does botanicula run on android? < 1388704958 458142 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems not < 1388704969 587383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to the platform list on humble bundle < 1388704974 850380 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1388704988 226923 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much as I like Spiderweb Software and as much as I love all the games they (well he, one guy iirc) made; the android port is unplayable < 1388704991 50943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :win / mac / linux / steam. nope. < 1388704995 362581 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a 300 dpi monitor < 1388705004 226174 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/monitor/screen/ ? < 1388705013 557972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :display. < 1388705020 234035 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can't say monitor about a tablet < 1388705028 882308 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :display works yes < 1388705038 993927 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also lume doesn't look that interesting < 1388705077 394374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well machinarium is the only game on that list that I've already played ... < 1388705101 940603 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :machinarium was good < 1388705117 261913 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Machinarium and Botanicula both don't have Linux support in their Steam editions, which is a bit of a shame. < 1388705124 745385 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, Botanicula is well worth $6 alone. Samorost and Windowsill aren't really worth much IMO. Lume and Shelter I never played < 1388705169 542261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like for Botanicula to have some sort of a "have not yet collected all creature cards" indicator before progressing through points of no return. < 1388705178 984412 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well I prefer to not use steam most of the time. I do redeem my bundled games on steam though as an insurance should humble bundle go under. < 1388705180 390657 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-63-234.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm i'll probably buy that later < 1388705216 816294 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I would much prefer redeeming on gog or even desura though. You used to get desura codes in the early bundles, but it has been a while since I have seen that < 1388705245 270546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps Valve made them an offer they couldn't refuse. < 1388705248 311438 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the cards didn't have any functional use though did they? Looked nice yes, but no function iirc? < 1388705273 39342 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, desura also started their own bundle, indieroyale or something like that iirc < 1388705292 830706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one to three "presents" you get at the end that depends on the number of cards you got. < 1388705294 351493 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I spent $10, too lazy to enter a custom amount ;) < 1388705305 974465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wandered around quite a lot, but still missed several. < 1388705306 162436 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally pretty crappy games on indieroyale the times I checked iirc < 1388705319 294544 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1388705339 94834 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, heh, well botanicula is worth that alone I would say < 1388705357 207065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course the presents don't really have a "function" either, I believe; at least the one (or two? can't remember) I got was just nice little animation. < 1388705367 998368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, looking at nice things is pretty much what the whole game is all about. < 1388705384 470947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferrably things that go "whee". < 1388705421 734122 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1388705435 997284 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember how many cards I got < 1388705482 111793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started a new playthrough where I tried to click on absolutely everything, and got it to the ground, but I'm a bit afraid I missed something small this time around too. < 1388705512 631183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I should just look up the number of cards you're supposed to have at the end of each "chapter" from the web. < 1388705519 223154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm sure someone's counted.) < 1388705527 868999 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think I got a fair amount of them, since I do tend to click on everything in that type of game < 1388705583 127600 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I do too, but I still managed to miss some, somehow. < 1388705619 568175 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit where you drop waters and set the "cups" to determine where it goes, did you do all the possible sprouty things? < 1388705626 363593 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if I got all < 1388705664 774756 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1388705665 584381 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You only need to make the middle bit sprout, but there's a special scene and an associated creature card if you do all.) < 1388705667 643202 :impomatic!~digital_w@150.20.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything is deeply intertwingled... < 1388705681 954785 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I played it around launch, haven't played it since. Don't even remember that part < 1388705716 32601 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, I probably wouldn't remember either, except for that quasi-recent replay. < 1388705721 985690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1388705835 313857 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, btw, that "Jack Lumber" game in the some recent humble bundle. Has some quite funny humor, better than Bard's Tale humor at least. Not a fan of the game play though < 1388705860 438435 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty absurd game, with a really absurd back story < 1388705871 866065 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1388705876 123775 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to play zzo38's game :( < 1388705879 620051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i will remember later < 1388705932 80243 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which game < 1388705938 136553 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Professional Octopus of the World? < 1388705949 432501 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, Or do it now. Or you could do it later. If you want to. But you don't have to, if you don't want to. < 1388705980 376821 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I seem to have it. < 1388705984 715681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean Attribute Zone? < 1388705998 431824 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah worth playing for a bit on the tablet I guess. < 1388706000 166920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it has only two levels, so it isn't good enough yet, but there are many other games in the same package. < 1388706015 54691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, definitely a mobile game level of game play in that < 1388706190 139656 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Oh, somewhat amusing: I recently(ish) Steam-activated all my bundle games, then installed Thomas Was Alone on Linux via Steam. I had been playing the directly-downloaded Linux version before, so it managed to dug up my existing (near-the-ending) save from somewhere (presumably $HOME), but then also "achievified" all the achievements (something like 30) I had unknowingly gotten so far, ... < 1388706196 148559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... all at the same time. < 1388706198 653251 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the flood of pop-ups. < 1388706240 266495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's one of those games where you get a lot of Steam achievements simply by playing it normally.) < 1388706267 809479 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, haha < 1388706273 972482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes I know < 1388706282 972506 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :A brilliant game < 1388706316 539499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After Super Meat Boy, the controls felt decidedly clunky, though. < 1388706365 619101 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Might have been partially a gamepad/keyboard difference too.) < 1388706419 579199 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not generally a fan of platformers, but the story in Thomas was alone is brilliant < 1388706983 621642 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slightly more on-topically, they could put more esolangs in games. (Certain to have mass-market appeal, I'm sure.) SpaceChem is the only thing I can think of offhand that kind of is one. < 1388707011 114155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spacechem meets spaceteam < 1388707042 920942 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Is this some kind of #spascedrugz reference? < 1388707053 490626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(can't spell) < 1388707059 767109 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not? < 1388707077 920670 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did use "space drugs" as a term for experimental psychedelics < 1388707098 711249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, make up a chess variant involving INTERCAL somehow < 1388707129 728342 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the actual fuck