< 1389052847 783679 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the type of the "eventual send" function is kinda scary: ERef (EFunc a b) -> ERef a -> (ERef (EFunc a b), ERef b) < 1389052860 61748 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1389052872 168754 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given a reference to a function and a reference to an argument, I can send the argument to the function. The result is a reference to the result, as well as a new reference to the function. < 1389052929 251598 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you send a message X to Alice and get a new reference Alice', then the reference Alice' has the property that any message sent to it is guaranteed not to arrive before X does. < 1389052935 957239 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389052958 373787 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1389052971 394897 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052971 595569 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052971 795952 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052972 22266 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052972 507017 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052972 707442 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389052979 945935 :rodgort`!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389053295 924818 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover NICK :Freefull < 1389053444 809495 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389053614 14821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: aren't you assuming Alice is actually using X there. < 1389053632 249654 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm not sure what you mean by "actually using". < 1389053647 969894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389053677 347933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, if Alice just discards X and gives you a reference back that does not use it. like haskell laziness. < 1389053751 352171 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Alice does with X has nothing to do with the "ERef (EFunc a b)" that you get back; that reference has the same behavior regardless of what Alice does. < 1389053775 218854 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "ERef b" can refer to whatever Alice wants it to refer to. < 1389053802 987165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1389053825 549908 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1389053846 879578 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing agda via ssh on my tablet is not particularly fun < 1389054007 808690 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1389054062 979996 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, so this is four ways of getting a reference, right? You can create a reference to an object; you can use >>= to call a function on a reference, giving you a new reference; and you can eventual-send to an object, giving you both a new reference to the object, and a reference to the result of the send. < 1389054284 29106 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then an important question is, when does an ERef a become "resolved", and what do we care... < 1389054434 846195 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389055811 989142 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All right, I guess the main operator is "send an argument reference to a target reference, yielding a result reference and a new version of the target reference". On the other side, an object is defined by one or more functions which take the state of the object and an argument reference, and return a result reference. < 1389056075 425290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1389056220 550715 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT : < 1389056238 121149 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389056262 335281 :myndzi\!~myndzi@50-194-51-62-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1389056337 330470 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is all made a bit difficult by the fact that Haskell's type system isn't really set up for object-oriented programming. < 1389056616 629117 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey nerds, anyone know what iommu does, i have a mystery on my hands < 1389056650 466238 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure. It's like paging, but on DMA. < 1389056682 49171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now riddle me this, why do i have to have it enabled for my NIC to function? < 1389056721 39130 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard telling. There's many possibilities. < 1389056742 849996 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe your NIC can only handle 32-bit addresses, and it needs to access a buffer that the kernel's shoved above that space. < 1389056747 119615 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ask because i've been fucking with drivers on a decapitated system all day only to find that i needed some fucking bios option < 1389056788 48826 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1294989 behold my salvation. < 1389056802 759283 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus has returned, as a forum thread, to save me < 1389056899 818904 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could also be the case that the device can only deal with a single large buffer, and the kernel hands the device that by using the IOMMU. < 1389056908 879911 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, it depends on implementation details a lot. < 1389056923 705210 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems unlikely someone would design a card like that, because IOMMU is pretty recent? < 1389056927 70609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know though < 1389056934 312841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if Fiora knows < 1389056942 112427 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389056969 819327 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the motherboard is fairly new, not sure about the nic < 1389056977 637902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if the nic is part of the mobo they can assume you have it < 1389056982 507476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be some kind of weird driver quirk. i pretty much hate all network drivers at this point < 1389056987 799250 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nic is in the mobo, yeah < 1389056990 939186 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NIC's a few years old, but probably newer than IOMMU. < 1389056994 779726 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nearly bought a pci one... < 1389057006 511581 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389057011 101561 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it's a few years old because my *last* computer had that exact kind. < 1389057015 439534 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also had an IOMMU. < 1389057036 987529 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm guessing you didn't need to enable it for network. < 1389057038 649081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1389057059 759810 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, it was on by default in the BIOS. < 1389057068 319180 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1389057079 100620 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why i need to get with fucking w/ my fpga's ethernet. write some drivers. make some spite < 1389057195 259196 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389057309 438725 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that when i say the ethernet didn't work, i mean that everything reported that the interface was fine, but i'd time out with dhcp or any kind of router communication. < 1389057455 986453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tastetheburritobox.com/ < 1389057666 795574 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm naming this computer syadavaktavyah in honor of me not knowing what the fuck < 1389057888 398902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: jain't nothing wrong with your computer < 1389057932 288948 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good < 1389057946 519738 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't they have thsoe in japan < 1389057967 779580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they were more an indian thing < 1389057984 459736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are you referring to the burrito boxes. < 1389058000 89330 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The burrito boxes, yeah. < 1389058007 239020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of the vending machines I saw in Japan were pretty low tech and boring < 1389058009 346007 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was disappointed < 1389058042 982382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there's some enormous vending machine district in Tōkyō that I should have visited < 1389058044 719625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: all the advanced ones start making things almost, but not quite unlike tea and have to commit seppuku. < 1389058049 718695 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1389058064 868808 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were claw machines that dispensed large sausages < 1389058076 699014 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and capsule machines with used panties < 1389058085 526398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither of those is that interesting from a technological perspective < 1389058158 579000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just reverse those hth < 1389058170 139511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :large panties and used sausages? < 1389058187 798945 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what about the pizza vending machines? < 1389058189 962519 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-233-232.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389058192 732248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen < 1389058195 105979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: syadavaktavyah < 1389058228 188967 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :syadavaktavyahth < 1389058239 490973 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389058970 140023 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389059554 782331 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1389059845 691446 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389061081 849882 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1389061733 320030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have now moved on to uefi problems, i'm hitting some kind of cosmic checklist < 1389061762 279032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :circles of hell < 1389061784 338963 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unaligned pointer 022 < 1389061787 609401 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x22, rather < 1389061814 470628 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also my mobo has a shitty implementation of AMD-Vi apparently, whatever that means! < 1389062092 62397 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389062126 852519 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think of geometric concepts that can be defined only in terms of points and lines, without talking about distance at all. < 1389062132 988937 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, there pretty much aren't any. < 1389062173 709772 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, you can define collinearity. That's pretty much it. < 1389062201 696092 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389062204 199243 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Circle? Nope. Triangle? Not without defining line segments, nope. < 1389062237 149050 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dual of collinearity is three lines intersecting in a point hth < 1389062241 49270 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you trying to think of that < 1389062252 306924 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Angle? Maybe. < 1389062262 949876 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: because the Faro plane. < 1389062275 32254 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the dual of an angle? < 1389062324 768008 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's three lines, one of them distinguished. < 1389062331 411968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: note that you cannot define anything that isn't preserved under linear maps and projections. < 1389062338 459029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which excludes angles. < 1389062350 550604 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, I guess that's obvious in retrospect. < 1389062364 562457 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can define parallelity. But in the Faro plane, no lines are parallel. < 1389062411 589125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can fix one line as infinite and define parallel as "intersect on the infinite line" < 1389062434 374154 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but then you pretty much just get the boring four-point plane. < 1389062439 91351 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where "line" means "set of two points". < 1389062458 510082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1389062477 879297 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take the Faro plane and denote one line as the line at infinity, and then you remove that line, you're left with four points. < 1389062479 179735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just defining the usual translation from euclidean plane to projective plane here, really. < 1389062490 979396 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A four-point plane, in fact. Where the lines are precisely the sets containing two points. < 1389062500 399638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1389062519 905636 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No three points are collinear, because no line contains three points. < 1389062537 959168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can define conic sections < 1389062561 259397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably gets something trivial in the faro plane, though. < 1389062620 88131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not really the fault of the concepts that the faro plane is too small to fit enough distinct examples of them to be interesting. < 1389062720 319819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are numerical expressions that are preserved under projective transformations although i cannot remember their names. < 1389062796 274054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well hm < 1389062818 158888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need four points in the usual projective plane to fix any transformation, i think. < 1389063040 265970 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389063107 162377 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, conic sections. < 1389063120 519484 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in the Faro plane, "conic section" just means something like "set of five points". < 1389063491 511459 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Fano < 1389063502 100732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Faro is a perfect shuffle) < 1389063630 929149 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also may be the word for "lighthouse" in some languages. < 1389063637 381780 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portuguese? Spanish? < 1389063724 39378 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arch doesn't have sudo by default. feelin pretty ascetic here < 1389063728 329602 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me two minutes to remember that word < 1389063762 862584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian doesn't either < 1389063768 818962 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do the barebones whatever install < 1389063793 669871 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also forgot to put wheel in sudoers so an incident was reported < 1389063808 157115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1389063813 892036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo is pretty fucked anyway < 1389063820 959522 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it not report anything by default? i even checked /var/spool/mail which i have never used in my life < 1389063822 117667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your typical linux desktop < 1389063838 633034 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't want to just log in as root... < 1389063848 552161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has all this complexity for delegating power to run individual commands, none of which is useful to typical desktop user < 1389063858 630113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah. < 1389063868 939572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the password prompt is little more than a molly-guard, for a typical desktop install < 1389063871 873964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it provides no real security < 1389063881 459384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there are simpler sudo-replacements which take these facts into account < 1389063890 359476 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :got a rec? < 1389063897 908929 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, haven't used them :/ < 1389063903 476879 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i am probably going to set up an sshd on this thing and use it as a bouncer so as to stop annoying you < 1389063931 871801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1389063987 869203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighthouse_of_Alexandria < 1389064022 506773 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of amusing how incredibly fucked i was without any internet < 1389064329 960141 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you mean about the password providing no security? would my set up which requires a fresh password entry for every sudo be considered "atypical" < 1389064391 19193 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the typical setup has a 5 minute timeout until you have to re-enter the password < 1389064412 710336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably running sudo within a shell and xterm and x session which are controlled by your user account < 1389064476 60112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if your account gets compromised the attacker can easily compromise one of those and get your password the next time you run sudo < 1389064477 490982 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which changes what? < 1389064483 299294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1389064486 549317 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're pretty much undoubtedly running it within a shell controlled by your user account. < 1389064488 851820 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1389064506 165475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the part where most of the stuff you'd care about an attacker doing/having is in your user account, anyway < 1389064513 215026 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389064521 519323 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since why would you be running it in someone else's shell. < 1389064524 921313 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i don't actually care < 1389064742 306411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1389064758 48142 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm not too worried about getting haxxed really < 1389064776 189582 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we can have a new age of viruses, spreading on dumbass linuxers like me < 1389064796 189739 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My laptop is set to allow anyone to SSH to it as root with no password. < 1389064811 423613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i hate minimalism < 1389064817 403804 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not related i just do < 1389064829 741065 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Why? If it has no internet connection then it might not be as much of a problem, but still it doesn't seem so sensible < 1389064834 841704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it Bike < 1389064856 819160 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :annoyed at people trying to find the once and for all really real perfect minimal computer < 1389064861 419468 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's behind a NAT all the time, except when I'm at school. Then it has a public IP address. < 1389064884 38960 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I look in the authorization logs, and apparently lots of people log into it. < 1389064889 791798 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume they're installing all sorts of malware. < 1389064890 307761 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snort < 1389064922 141657 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know that *some* of them are, because every time I log into an account with my laptop, it gets compromised within a couple of days. < 1389064949 900639 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my web browser is almost unusable because literally more than three quarters of the window are taken up by toolbars. < 1389064959 719147 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how joking are you exactly < 1389064967 860256 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Well, I too try to find good instructions sets that I can try to build a good computer. My criterias are to have open source program to implement it in hardware (without vendor lock or patent issues), to be simple, to support 32-bits address, to be supported target by GCC or LLVM, and it can be changed to have different features which I might want. < 1389064976 654360 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 95% joking. < 1389064984 409250 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Then turn off all of the toolbars. < 1389065012 699509 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: and here I thought you had found the ultimate "zen" approach to computer security < 1389065023 314775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well "simple" doesn't mean much of anything, basically. < 1389065036 180698 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: whenever I turn off a toolbar, the browser crashes. < 1389065051 467145 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannibalized some old computers, i should set up honeypot puters < 1389065069 709398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacker gains access, realizes that the machine is from 1992, gives up in disgust < 1389065070 340865 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1389065072 769484 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ultimate security < 1389065078 361958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Then make a backup of non-binary files and then erase everything and reinstall everything, and then hopefully it will work < 1389065097 269261 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I doubt it; someone might be interested nevertheless < 1389065101 410798 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: also he's lying about the toolbars < 1389065104 509307 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know how sourdough contains a specific mixture of microorganisms that result in it being completely safe to eat, and if you were to remove the wrong ones, you'd end up with some weird random mixture of bacteria that'd probably kill you? < 1389065106 259761 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like that. < 1389065125 824749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about sourdough much < 1389065126 61836 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, well how many 1992 computers used to turn on my lights have you compromised, huh < 1389065140 19415 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: i don't think that's true < 1389065142 920619 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :about sourdough < 1389065153 230948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ would know for sure < 1389065162 100464 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I've tried that, but all the non-binary files I try to copy off the computer automatically get machine translated into Portuguese for some reason. < 1389065177 452078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Me? I expect, none. But I never tried, and don't intend to, so it doesn't matter. < 1389065185 389495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :salt-rising bread, on the other hand, is made using the bacterium which causes gas gangrene < 1389065192 759151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't cut yourself while kneading it < 1389065197 588878 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you /expect/ none? < 1389065201 778983 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you sleep-hack < 1389065239 791913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: No, but I may have inadvertently done something. < 1389065271 499045 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :inadveertantly hacked my doorputer? what's wrong with you man < 1389065279 329368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, I suppose maybe I do sleep-hack, but not in the sense you probably mean) < 1389065279 681267 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And whenever I try to copy a binary file off the computer, I end up with a file that just says "ÿþ" followed by a line break, in UTF-8. < 1389065299 269263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you dreams about hacking eh < 1389065315 677194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That isn't what I mean either actually < 1389065335 205478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you intentionally screw with your sleep schedule? < 1389065353 179938 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the mode ends up getting set to 7412. < 1389065367 559825 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Well, I do do that, but I don't know if that is what I mean or not; that is why I wrote "maybe". < 1389065394 400448 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this cpu is ten years old, sweeeeet < 1389065397 380032 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: must be hard not to know what you mean < 1389065416 389009 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: That's what *you* think. < 1389065452 729147 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuts up < 1389065521 702634 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have looked at a few instruction sets such as ARM2 and MMIX, both of which are supported in GCC but not in LLVM. < 1389065577 311950 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to use GCC as a LLVM-backend? < 1389065814 489474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ÿþ | iconv -t latin1 < 1389065816 189189 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1389065825 963409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't work much. < 1389065826 168342 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you think. < 1389065850 339282 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it did and it just isn't actual utf8 < 1389065857 521212 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`from-8bit ÿþ < 1389065860 469309 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​iconv: incomplete character or shift sequence at end of buffer < 1389065875 455558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/from-8bit < 1389065876 725987 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ \ enc=$(echo "$1" | iconv -t iso8859-1 | chardet | awk '{print $2}') \ echo "$1" | iconv -t iso8859-1 | iconv -f "$enc" < 1389065932 239508 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ÿþ | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f utf16le -t utf 8 | unidecode < 1389065934 369540 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: conversion to `utf' is not supported \ Try `iconv --help' or `iconv --usage' for more information. < 1389065936 699510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also written a program "utftovlq" which is a C program capable to do many of those things too, such as convert UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1, or other things < 1389065951 229661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO 1337:1980 Wrought coppers (having minimum copper contents of 99,85 %) -- Chemical composition and forms of wrought products < 1389065953 510221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If such program is loaded you can see if it work or not < 1389065963 241590 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very elite < 1389065967 314661 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone say what I just said, but such that it works. < 1389065984 579536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO 420:1994. Photography -- Processing chemicals < 1389066003 359681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chemicals" < 1389066006 170639 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`iconv -l < 1389066006 569125 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gettin high on... i don't know what chemicals you use in darkrooms < 1389066007 521302 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :437// \ 500// \ 500V1// \ 850// \ 851// \ 852// \ 855// \ 856// \ 857// \ 860// \ 861// \ 862// \ 863// \ 864// \ 865// \ 866// \ 866NAV// \ 869// \ 874// \ 904// \ 1026// \ 1046// \ 1047// \ 8859_1// \ 8859_2// \ 8859_3// \ 8859_4// \ 8859_5// \ 8859_6// \ 8859_7// \ 8859_8// \ 8859_9// \ 10646-1:1993// \ 10646-1:1993/UCS4/ \ ANSI_X3.4-1968// \ AN < 1389066014 19119 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1389066016 970851 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the bad chemicals < 1389066020 21126 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that command to pastebin something? < 1389066039 500554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ÿþ | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f utf16le -t utf8 | unidecode < 1389066041 319096 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :iconv: incomplete character or shift sequence at end of buffer < 1389066046 469262 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'bad chemicals' means 'good shit' right < 1389066059 357712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-f utf8 -t utf8 should be the default < 1389066068 315635 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, not "utf 8". < 1389066098 369002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you load C program into HackEgo anyways? < 1389066109 849732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n ÿþ | iconv -t latin1 | iconv -f utf16le | unidecode < 1389066111 640430 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066119 21499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -n ÿþ | iconv -t latin1 | iconv -f utf16le | hd < 1389066120 539994 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 ef bb bf |...| \ 00000003 < 1389066120 949665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, the default should depend on the current locale setting, isn't it? < 1389066130 429558 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: in HackEgo i meant < 1389066133 901023 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`locale < 1389066134 651239 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unidecode doesn't take stdin i thought < 1389066135 25671 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :LANG=en_NZ.UTF-8 \ LANGUAGE= \ LC_CTYPE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NUMERIC="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TIME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_COLLATE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MONETARY="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MESSAGES="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_PAPER="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_NAME="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_ADDRESS="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_TELEPHONE="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_MEASUREMENT="en_NZ.UTF-8" \ LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_NZ < 1389066141 473894 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ä < 1389066142 979423 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+00E4 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS] < 1389066143 179880 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If the locale setting is UTF-8, then yes it should be UTF-8, clearly) < 1389066153 219131 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo ä > unidecode - < 1389066153 664494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :en_NZ really < 1389066156 337793 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066158 718991 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389066164 268983 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(echo -n ÿþ | iconv -t latin1 | iconv -f utf16le) < 1389066166 479070 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FEFF ZERO WIDTH NO-BREAK SPACE] < 1389066168 258713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to load C program into HakEgo? < 1389066176 313557 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, finally. < 1389066186 450390 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetch the source and compile it? fetch a binary? < 1389066216 689409 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc < 1389066217 931283 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc: no input files < 1389066232 33995 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the source, I don't have binary for this computer though; how do I load a file on? < 1389066239 452598 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget < 1389066240 776266 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget: missing URL \ Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]... \ \ Try `wget --help' for more options. < 1389066246 157513 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1389066247 621608 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv < 1389066272 89038 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch < 1389066272 675906 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://: Invalid host name. < 1389066283 979147 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 < 1389066299 679139 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should specify output filename too < 1389066306 640731 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who, me? < 1389066307 960716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think it is -O for wget) < 1389066312 809245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you < 1389066314 990584 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2014-01-07 03:44:44-- http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received. \ Retrying. \ \ --2014-01-07 03:44:45-- (try: 2) http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connecte < 1389066322 978851 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 -o 98076 < 1389066330 840230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat unidecode < 1389066332 42862 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ä - < 1389066332 969636 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right, the DNS thing. < 1389066333 415244 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a whitelist < 1389066351 819138 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: lol oops. < 1389066353 999372 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2014-01-07 03:45:23-- http://lpaste.net/raw/98076%20-o%2098076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received. \ Retrying. \ \ --2014-01-07 03:45:24-- (try: 2) http://lpaste.net/raw/98076%20-o%2098076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to conne < 1389066356 720896 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This won't work, but: < 1389066364 679312 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wget http://176.9.42.8/raw/98076 -o 98076 < 1389066376 941171 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 < 1389066427 479249 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​--2014-01-07 03:46:36-- http://176.9.42.8/raw/98076%20-o%2098076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to connect to socket 2. \ connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received. \ Retrying. \ \ --2014-01-07 03:46:37-- (try: 2) http://176.9.42.8/raw/98076%20-o%2098076 \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... Failed to conne < 1389066429 107392 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-01-07 03:47:08 URL:http://lpaste.net/raw/98076 [373] -> "98076" [1] < 1389066436 509932 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat 98076 < 1389066437 794736 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-- Hi everyone! < 1389066445 362205 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep < 1389066451 589200 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, someone got 98076 somehow. < 1389066461 761289 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Musta been you, Bike. < 1389066471 238755 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1389066475 184723 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat $(which fetch) < 1389066486 404720 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's builtin < 1389066491 569029 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you did it, Bike. You made it happen. < 1389066493 539051 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`type fetch < 1389066494 709410 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: type: not found < 1389066500 749885 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1389066503 279072 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run type fetch < 1389066504 648716 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: line 0: type: fetch: not found < 1389066506 189028 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066507 350322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: `fetch is outside the sandbox. < 1389066513 999135 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm. < 1389066599 149636 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode < 1389066600 700420 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066602 820331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1389066604 549003 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+E326 DUNNO] < 1389066616 557420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm unidecode < 1389066619 719038 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066633 295962 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1389066639 129837 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode yarr < 1389066640 539854 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y] [U+0061 LATIN SMALL LETTER A] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] [U+0072 LATIN SMALL LETTER R] < 1389066675 252097 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv $(which unidecode) unidecode- && rm $(which unidecode) < 1389066679 236992 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: missing operand \ Try `rm --help' for more information. < 1389066694 455856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: wat < 1389066702 858935 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip unidecode < 1389066706 559100 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. < 1389066709 350583 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode yarr < 1389066710 538858 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: unidecode: not found < 1389066715 159060 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1389066716 260030 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1389066718 364538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1389066722 578829 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1389066728 39117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode BAH < 1389066729 659047 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0042 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER B] [U+0041 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A] [U+0048 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H] < 1389066732 498958 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whither does `revert revert? < 1389066760 60525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the previous version hth < 1389066770 232292 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tht < 1389066783 769949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ꙮ < 1389066785 119788 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+A66E CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O] < 1389066852 1881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://sprunge.us/UNPA < 1389066854 270567 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-01-07 03:54:13 URL:http://sprunge.us/UNPA [9462] -> "UNPA" [1] < 1389066868 47584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#esꙮteric :Illegal channel name" :( < 1389066879 788822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lꙮl < 1389066888 923750 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ▒▒ < 1389066890 519615 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2592 MEDIUM SHADE] [U+2592 MEDIUM SHADE] < 1389066894 400571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file UNPA < 1389066895 841512 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNPA: ASCII C program text < 1389066898 118814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -s -O2 -o bin/utftovlq UNPA < 1389066899 899724 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNPA: file not recognized: File format not recognized \ collect2: ld returned 1 exit status < 1389066918 130085 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc -s -O2 -o bin/utftovlq -x c UNPA < 1389066926 109569 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066936 839808 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what does -s do again? < 1389066939 314205 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`df -h < 1389066940 501646 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :df: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory < 1389066942 948998 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`utftovlq for < 1389066944 71002 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389066951 778921 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: quit trying to read /proc/mount hth < 1389066958 250778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It doesn't work like that. Download it into your own computer for documentation < 1389066961 439188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, strip < 1389066962 671143 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo foo | utftovlq < 1389066964 79658 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389067033 918768 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The parameter needs to be one character input type, one character output type, for example "utftovlq 81" is converting plain 8-bit data into UTF-8. < 1389067049 559291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This plain data is considered as ISO-8859-1, for purpose of Unicode encoding) < 1389067052 59125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it better than iconv < 1389067088 858956 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`utftovlq 81 UNPA < 1389067103 621721 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find / | xargs -n 2 mv < 1389067119 686922 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389067141 596043 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's cool? error messages are cool < 1389067162 129921 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It can do various other things too, such as convert endianness of files, convert overlong encodings, and support up to 64-bit numbers < 1389067165 389595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 errno -l < 1389067166 648322 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: errno: command not found < 1389067196 919774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote de_DE.UTF-8 < 1389067198 477915 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :925) shachaf: LC_ALL=de_DE.utf-8 errno -l Veraltete NFS-Dateizugriffsnummer Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler "Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs" i think that was in the Ring Cycle < 1389067215 392198 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067216 999272 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: Entfernen von „all-cats-are-cats“ nicht möglich: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden < 1389067273 319029 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo /hackenv/bin/past* < 1389067274 445654 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/pastalog /hackenv/bin/pastaquote /hackenv/bin/paste /hackenv/bin/pastefortunes /hackenv/bin/pastekarma /hackenv/bin/pastelog /hackenv/bin/pastelogs /hackenv/bin/pastenquotes /hackenv/bin/pastequotes /hackenv/bin/pastewisdom /hackenv/bin/pastlog < 1389067278 718975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unterbrechung während des Betriebssystemaufrufs, Brünhilde < 1389067281 91 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=so_ET.UTF-8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067282 289514 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `all-cats-are-cats': No such file or directory < 1389067288 519500 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :locale game weak < 1389067294 269041 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run locale -a | paste < 1389067296 259629 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the convert type are: 8=8-bit, w=16-bit LE, W=16-bit BE, d=32-bit LE, D=32-bit BE, q=64-bit LE, Q=64-bit BE, 1=UTF-8, 0=Modified UTF-8, V=VLQ, v=LEB-128, u=UTF-16 LE, U=UTF-16 BE, T=translation, M=Messagepack (input only), 4=Hex. There is also other options: L=linefeed, c=carriage-return, b=BOM in, B=BOM out, t=Make translation file small-endian. < 1389067300 150442 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.1702 < 1389067314 330194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "translation", a translation table must be given as a second argument. < 1389067320 798904 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=ar_JO.utf8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067322 189049 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `all-cats-are-cats': No such file or directory < 1389067329 60030 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=so_ET.utf8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067330 359543 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `all-cats-are-cats': No such file or directory < 1389067334 918967 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it. < 1389067343 629424 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=zh_CN.utf8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067345 89873 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: 无法删除"all-cats-are-cats": 没有那个文件或目录 < 1389067353 529284 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably rm doesn't know so_ET. < 1389067387 845190 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ethiopian Somali? < 1389067412 549105 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=ja_JP.utf8 rm all-cats-are-cats < 1389067414 10676 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `all-cats-are-cats': そのようなファイルやディレクトリはありません < 1389067422 949226 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1389067432 898990 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the other way around, i think. < 1389067501 491563 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sono yōna fairu ya direkutori wa arimasen" < 1389067878 19904 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389068238 640060 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: "you na", not "youna". < 1389068297 578990 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run LC_ALL=am_ET.utf8 rm foobar < 1389068298 859021 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm: cannot remove `foobar': No such file or directory < 1389068316 650005 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really wanted to see the Unicode mumbo-jumbo < 1389068512 188824 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: well, I was copying and pasting from Gūguru ga hon'yaku. < 1389068568 879722 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ﯹﯹﯹﯹﯹﯹﯹﯹ < 1389068570 588503 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM] [U+FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM] [U+FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM] [U+FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALE < 1389068578 480644 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, "Google Translates". < 1389068591 643786 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Google Translates. < 1389068646 85528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The example of my program would be, for example converting UTF-8 to CESU-8 will be "utftovlq 1u | utftovlq w0" < 1389068752 900000 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum. GT translates "テゥランスレーテゥ" as "Thuringer Lance de Lethe". < 1389068874 292055 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1389068999 169088 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sicb.org/meetings/2014/schedule/abstractdetails.php?id=1217 cameron, j < 1389069009 688489 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ヘyグysカニョウレアdティs < 1389069020 772810 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :アッパレンtlyティシsウァチョウゲtウェニョウジュsttyペエンgィシントティシメ < 1389069022 507418 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389069039 840612 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389069043 549632 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :イフォロネカンtレアヂタタll < 1389069046 880514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: nite < 1389069161 419008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alle Katzen sind Katzen < 1389069165 618651 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaikki kissat ovat kissoja < 1389069199 976661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sicb? structure and interpretation of computer brogramming? < 1389069242 419177 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Todos los gatos son gatos. < 1389069250 535112 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'd buy it < 1389069292 684759 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1389069302 716328 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke JOIN :#esoteric < 1389069431 879147 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex JOIN :#esoteric < 1389069446 829290 :preflex!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389069457 81093 :preflex_!~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex NICK :preflex < 1389069457 839370 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, Google Translate translates "ン" as "Emissions" and "ンン" as "Unless they already exist". < 1389069501 899037 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so" and "so-so" also mean different things :p < 1389069528 699703 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody actually speaks japanese it's all an elaborate hoax < 1389069550 404845 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Sou desu ne. < 1389069584 888990 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Also, yes, I can read your psuedo-Japanese. :) < 1389069594 708789 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah, but those say "n" and "n'n". < 1389069641 283098 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1389069672 71414 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...? < 1389069699 178859 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :のぼぢあくつある類スペアクスじゃ派寝せ逸すあるルアンえらぼら手穂悪巣 < 1389069713 18646 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I'm reasonably sure neither of those is actually a Japanese word. < 1389069725 231470 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well probably < 1389069807 930149 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you tell Google Translate to translate from Latin to English, then "Lorem" becomes "Business", "Lorem lorem" becomes "Business on the Internet", "Lorem lorem lorem" becomes "Chinese Internet technology", "Lorem lorem lorem lorem" becomes "Chinese Internet phone technology", and "Lorem lorem lorem lorem lorem" becomes "China China China China China". < 1389069832 729689 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google translation party < 1389069833 493190 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://translationparty.com/ < 1389069833 693474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Translation Party < 1389069913 418557 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nn" is close to a Japanese utterance at least. < 1389069918 112457 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lorem ipsum" becomes "Product". "Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum" becomes "China's". "Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum" becomes "China's Internet". "Lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum lorem ipsum" becomes "Of course, system design, and system design, and system design," < 1389069924 940287 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you would write it "un" instead. < 1389069984 988576 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lorem ipsum sit dolor amet" becomes "There's a lot of pain" < 1389070009 759027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can convert any UTF-8 variant (CESU-8, overlong, normal, etc) into proper UTF-8 by "utftovlq 1u | utftovlq u1" < 1389070289 703853 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389070602 498891 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/raw/98081 < 1389070614 519387 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep stuff. < 1389070640 471168 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can fill out before the arrows to get pregnant." < 1389070668 101268 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's easy , you will feel to the home and the great gods into labor over the mountains, instantly. There is no element of fear of the notebook of life impact." < 1389070720 300373 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Welcome to the court of the overall development of the plant." < 1389070727 75743 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want there to be a court of the overall development of the plant. < 1389070868 655000 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Each warm-up , wise life is loose , or is willing to ferry a lion" < 1389071303 49421 :tswett!6b0598fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.5.152.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389072524 353934 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389072525 119158 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.58.47 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe > 1389072548 130713 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389072552 255879 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389072552 770403 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389072604 749037 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072607 351544 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1389072608 864150 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389072609 379559 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072685 46313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072699 923282 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-142.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072700 104471 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-38-142.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1389072700 272136 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072772 862846 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389072839 609207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073106 943116 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389073107 110747 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073114 732041 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073125 329383 :Freefull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073131 539287 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073142 845738 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073178 415744 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073202 126324 :Freefull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073258 451548 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073344 265229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073355 367429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google used to translate "quid pro quo" as "What happens in Vegas" < 1389073416 198816 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073417 961614 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073420 437400 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073430 616097 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073431 216541 :Taneb!~Taneb@213.138.101.13 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073435 480884 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073437 532071 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073437 792025 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073438 27698 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073447 5528 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073456 614438 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073607 460145 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073610 582230 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073812 320002 :hogeyui___!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073854 846396 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1389073939 623255 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073941 257258 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389073942 188515 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1389074010 724583 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389074114 668872 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389074264 474656 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1389076495 373035 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1389076830 761392 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it translate everything like that? < 1389076873 632320 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does what < 1389076929 813322 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "What happens in Vegas" and that stuff < 1389076956 963090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't live at Vegas, so I wouldn't know) < 1389077011 273083 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. It's a joke. "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas" is a common epxression. < 1389077180 819625 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate works by data mining the web, so it can get strange ideas about things < 1389077201 530520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example people use "lorem ipsum" as filler text on lots of different kinds of pages < 1389077227 398574 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that's why it doesn't work. (A lot of other things also don't work on Google translation; there are better ones) < 1389077459 901814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are better? < 1389077472 79615 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget now, but I did see better ones before < 1389077484 821941 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm convinced < 1389077493 122027 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also seen worse ones < 1389077498 507613 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is vdpau good < 1389077510 510370 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1389077519 764679 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1389077977 362113 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389078012 323637 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389078166 410551 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, all this cra kind of makes me interested in gpu driver stuff... probably i can't do anything good for the projects though :/ < 1389078223 995579 :Fiora_!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com NICK :Fiora < 1389078282 679850 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389078517 369613 :Freefull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1389078770 905377 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Medicine One is such an unimaginative name for a chemical that cures a fictitious poison (ATP decoupler) < 1389078792 461040 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does that come from < 1389078814 618344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Creatures series < 1389078826 876477 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/ATP_Decoupler < 1389078829 423133 :quintopi1!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389078877 545099 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does creatures have proper neurotoins < 1389078881 615752 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :toxins < 1389078932 218992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some chemicals that can cause mental issues if they can be made to stay in the system long enough < 1389078935 767246 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1389078965 854122 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the only examples I can think of normally have a very quick half-life in a normal norn's bloodstream < 1389079008 88281 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punishment and Reward < 1389079024 204368 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a norn that had Punishment constantly pumped into it < 1389079040 994853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would start doing random things, and eventually refuse to do anything at all < 1389079238 708407 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 가 | utftovlq 1u < 1389079240 772500 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​가 | utftovlq 1u < 1389079244 813873 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wel.. < 1389079246 699740 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 가 | utftovlq 1u < 1389079248 144518 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. \ . < 1389079258 788984 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1389079261 45428 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... what happened? < 1389079274 328176 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: customer service! < 1389079281 765910 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I don't know how utftovlq works < 1389079287 231182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such command is converting UTF-8 (type "1") to UTF-16 LE (type "u") < 1389079289 618099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to investigate some strange thing sgeo said before i crashed my client < 1389079301 480214 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: aha, so U is UTF-16 BE and so on? < 1389079306 141775 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :he told you that the fictitious poison is from Creatures. < 1389079307 878226 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes. < 1389079314 299418 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`utftovlq < 1389079315 520333 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389079318 663725 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm! < 1389079324 449098 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a source code for it? < 1389079334 124411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, there is a source code for it. < 1389079347 600296 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/UNPA < 1389079348 647783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat UNPA < 1389079349 834751 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/* \ UTF-to-VLQ \ Public domain \ */ \ \ #include \ #include \ \ #ifdef _WIN32 \ #include \ #endif \ \ typedef unsigned char byte; \ typedef unsigned long long ULL; \ \ typedef ULL(*in_func_t)(void); \ typedef void(*out_func_t)(ULL); \ \ char in_mode; \ char out_mode; \ int options[128]; \ ULL translation[ < 1389079350 885916 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1389079415 312869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat UNPA | egrep '.'\]=write_ < 1389079416 724767 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ ['8']=write_8bit_raw, \ ['w']=write_16bit_le_raw, \ ['W']=write_16bit_be_raw, \ ['d']=write_32bit_le_raw, \ ['D']=write_32bit_be_raw, \ ['q']=write_64bit_le_raw, \ ['Q']=write_64bit_be_raw, \ ['1']=write_utf8, \ ['0']=write_utf8, \ ['V']=write_vlq8, \ ['v']=write_leb128, \ ['u']=write_utf16_le, \ ['U']=write_utf16_be, \ < 1389079434 302957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's most of them, anyways. < 1389079458 158565 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what's a difference between 1 and 0? < 1389079458 326305 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also 'T' for translate (needs a file containing a translation table), and '4' for hex. < 1389079473 244812 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a typo in the normal norn genome < 1389079478 685649 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1389079486 577645 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pain gets converted into hunger for protein backup instead of pain backup < 1389079503 685078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: The '0' is only different for output; it makes no difference for input. For output, '0' causes a code number zero to be overlong encoded (which some programs require). < 1389079535 387716 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "write_utf8" function checks if it is invoked with type '0' or '1' in this case) < 1389079621 349960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also a few other options dealing with line breaks and byte order marks. < 1389079928 118602 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully this explains it enough? Using pipes, you can do many more things than just what is specified here, though. < 1389080057 834024 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlike iconv, utftovlq is capable of working on binary files too; it doesn't have to work on text files. Also, it supports VLQ, overlong UTF-8, codepoints up to 64-bits (or 36-bits for UTF-8), etc, but it doesn't have translation tables for various character sets built-in; you need to use external files. Also, utftovlq does not support UTF-7 and that stuff either. < 1389080104 619265 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they are really two different programs for different purposes, although some of the purposes are shared between them. < 1389080136 366984 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: actually, I'm quite confused why 0 and 1 makes differences while the source code seems to be same for both. < 1389080140 546136 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise I got it < 1389080183 571110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Like I said, the "write_utf8" function checks this; instead of duplicating the function except for the difference, it just has a condition to check this specific case. < 1389080198 944633 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1389080234 996850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both types are the same for input, though.) < 1389080236 17647 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd rather have a simple usage when the program is called without any args... ;) < 1389080254 318794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do that, but I didn't put any in (yet). < 1389080273 851100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program is public domain anyone can make whatever variation of the program you want to. < 1389080282 260886 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and it seems to ignore any UTF-8 errors (including overlong sequences) naturally. < 1389080297 722105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, that is on purpose. < 1389080337 332654 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how `conv_cr` etc is handled :) < 1389080347 971128 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1389082312 218577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is anyone able to help to make 8x8 graphics for some computer game? < 1389082333 95291 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is 32 kind of pieces, 16 for tiles and 16 for sprites. < 1389082408 310727 :Yonkie!~Yonkie@ip.82.144.199.214.stat.volia.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389082428 481175 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much are you paying :D < 1389082450 534309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zero (too bad!) < 1389082887 953202 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, the software is public domain so other people are allowed to sell it too. < 1389082947 981613 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But, if you want to do that, it is recommended that you will make the box art too. It is not a requirement, however.) < 1389083487 38951 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.114.58.47 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389083780 623384 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you already searched for public domain game graphics? < 1389083805 730297 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: They aren't suitable. < 1389084015 314153 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of graphics are you looking for then? < 1389084079 633472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are specialized for a specific kind of computer game, for one thing; also, the tiles are mono, and sprites are three colors + transparency (the same three for each one, or up to two different palettes for sprites) < 1389084224 965677 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. ok < 1389084273 502998 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was seriously considering a minimalistic VM suited for 2D (or limited 3D) game programming < 1389084299 244910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, and I was considering a way to make the program fit in a QR code, too. < 1389084301 962966 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to use or to make? < 1389084311 893018 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But none of this has to do with the game I am making now) < 1389084322 525034 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which is for me a non-issue though :) < 1389084332 489052 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, I seek for simple and relatively performant implementations < 1389084339 680173 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without sacrificing features < 1389085592 37152 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389086414 771210 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1389087106 936227 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: I forgot to mention yesterday that the rules for conversion to null pointer are also different in every edition of the standards. just saying. < 1389087191 661516 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned overflow in C is defined behaviour, right? < 1389087206 537313 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e (uint8_t)(255+1) == (uint8_t)0? < 1389087236 741931 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: yes < 1389087250 584152 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vagely remember an assume wraparound option, but afaik that applies only to signed overflows < 1389087653 790008 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389088679 715025 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a dream where I was watching a Pirates of the Caribbean movie and it opened with Legolas telling the fourth wall how he killed Gilderoy Lockhart to become the new Dread Pirate Roberts < 1389088881 4704 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual Legolas, or the guy who plays Legolas? < 1389088882 453000 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually Legolas < 1389088890 502681 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my brain was aiming for Will Turner and missed < 1389088891 585150 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's Will Turner? < 1389088912 422771 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: unsigned integral types in C and C++ always wrap around as if they used modulo a two power, yes < 1389088931 56006 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the guy Orlando Bloom played in PotC < 1389088954 516078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can still get an undefined behaviour from them if you shift by too large shift count, or if you divide by zero < 1389088959 479042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but never from addition < 1389088959 685480 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, and he's the one who plays legolas < 1389088971 96474 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1389092472 402618 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think in LLVM you can specify whether or not you get undefined behaviour for some arithmetic operations < 1389093346 645565 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389093464 316595 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1389095519 358822 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389096409 204506 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbgbtdlhtxresoxb QUIT :Changing host < 1389096409 528013 :ggherdov!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1389096409 695788 :ggherdov!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1389096409 893833 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nbgbtdlhtxresoxb JOIN :#esoteric < 1389097908 328160 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1389099597 876752 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389099604 780505 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389099918 163595 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389100299 871331 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1389100765 677266 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389101199 135789 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Excess Flood < 1389101243 545099 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389101469 283582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389101551 553983 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good CYUL morning! < 1389101565 521652 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lóód < 1389101565 688995 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1389101567 420380 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lóud < 1389101567 587951 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 13h 25m 53s ago: norway is warmer this time of the year. <-- incidentally i saw in the newspaper that the night before yesterday was the fourth hottest january night ever measured (by minimum temperature) in trondheim. (it was 5.1 celsius.) < 1389101567 588112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 2d 13h 24m 25s ago: http://www.adressa.no/vaeret/article8897643.ece < 1389101642 675135 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan the next logical step is to learn Norwegian. < 1389101642 842684 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1389104514 772417 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389104889 663313 :monotone_!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1389105136 164884 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome atrapado < 1389105136 437484 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13atrapado: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1389105352 55328 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks boily and HackEgo :) < 1389105426 230958 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1389105453 414674 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389105524 151353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1389105648 474981 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god mørjangen. < 1389105738 463774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :goily ettermiddag < 1389105796 943905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-foul < 1389105797 112000 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily said 1h 9m 14s ago: the next logical step is to learn Norwegian. < 1389105819 313556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jepp! < 1389106038 412928 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389106218 83939 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Lorem ipsum" becomes "Product". <-- heh when i think about it it makes complete sense that google translate would go haywire on variations of this phrase. < 1389106268 369366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is often used as a temporary replacement for text that hasn't yet been written. so if google finds both the before and after versions... < 1389106289 377254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would think one is a translation of the other. < 1389106296 343413 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :google translate autodetects "lorem ipsum" as latin, then translates it into fr:Chine. < 1389106346 954007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: btw case matters in these things. < 1389106447 55277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet consectetuer adipiscing elit sed diam -> This page is designed to explore a computer program to implement the < 1389106477 118092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to remove the commas in it, otherwise it started breaking it up. < 1389106509 373530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lorem ipsum is apparently an actual passage of Latin altered to have a frequency distribution of letters/word lengths matching English < 1389106530 36913 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :la:Lorem → en:Business, la:lorem → en:Internet, la:Ipsum → en:the, la:ipsum → en:it, la:lorem ipsum → en:China, la:lorem Ipsum → en:Product, la:Lorem ipsum → en:Product, la:Lorem Ipsum → en:NATO. < 1389106532 725786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus the result makes no sense < 1389106547 488215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, i doubt that's what's happening. < 1389106575 273881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as i understand it, google translate works by finding pages that it thinks are translations of each other, no? < 1389106576 85844 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'Business Internet the it China Product Product NATO' >wisdom/'lorem ipsum' < 1389106576 263696 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I didn't mean to suggest it was < 1389106578 749654 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bringing up trivia < 1389106584 163203 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389106594 211413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clear why Google Translate is so confued < 1389106679 496277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i think the translations of [Ii]psum alone are fairly correct. it's a pronoun after all. < 1389106699 1155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exact, but something that can often make sense in context. < 1389106841 823312 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latine loqui coactus sum, non. < 1389106887 975584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION boilym coactat < 1389106965 729754 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently, "coactat" is “confined”. < 1389106982 876925 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles his way out of oerjan's confinement < 1389107002 410839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i don't think gt finds the right verb < 1389107028 590989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/coacto is what i was going for < 1389107036 191288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only guessing it existed.) < 1389107075 441895 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“to hide”??? < 1389107096 415750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do you find that? < 1389107121 881883 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :from your coacto wiktionary page → descendants → french «cacher». < 1389107123 71163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the french descendant < 1389107157 829568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this may be a shock to you, but words change meanings. < 1389107210 581825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm so the computer term "cache" also derives from this. < 1389107564 557022 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there aren't any official quotation rules for Latin. < 1389107689 679896 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just use the quotative case < 1389107755 441419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you made that up, right? < 1389107781 624718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got me. < 1389107794 486264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotative < 1389107874 486328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again, reality trumps fiction. < 1389107876 780091 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389107923 778570 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389108034 674976 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Do not meddle in the affairs of linguists, for you are instrumental and taste good with oblique mustard.” < 1389108088 948058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure instrumental is a case, though. < 1389108140 200472 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instrumental is quite common → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_case < 1389108188 93832 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(strangely, wikipedia doesn't mention Japanese's 「で」) < 1389108227 576365 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :で's more general than the instrumental case < 1389108294 970650 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it doesn't list e.g. latin's ablative either, so i guess it's that < 1389108381 636685 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, the article refers to the comitative. < 1389108799 859102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : I had a dream where I was watching a Pirates of the Caribbean movie and it opened with Legolas telling the fourth wall how he killed Gilderoy Lockhart to become the new Dread Pirate Roberts <-- with his sled, i assume. < 1389108862 245809 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of the Fourth Wall, I made a grave mistake yesterday night. I began reading OOTS. < 1389108871 401225 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1389108897 886322 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389109147 626104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I used to pay actual money at cybercafés to read OOTS < 1389109159 7211 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I had friends with Internet connections I could borrow < 1389109192 842012 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this is the first time I've cried at the end of a main-series pokemon game < 1389109201 877925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: X/Y, I take it? < 1389109230 33262 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup < 1389109236 5674 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you need a membership card to borrow friends? < 1389109266 200708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://deeperdesign.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/is-iron-man-made-of-lego/ < 1389109274 892218 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matintopia! < 1389109278 521060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I specify main-series because I probably cried at Mystery Dungeon Red < 1389109279 361803 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup boily < 1389109298 718337 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least I would if I reached it for the first time as I am now < 1389109299 76705 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1389109315 334796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I could also guess the gen 4 Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, but those probably don't count as main series) < 1389109319 946845 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PMD is better with its stories, really < 1389109366 52205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray the temp is back up to 12F < 1389109370 245143 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: back in Montréal. < 1389109370 851446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1389109371 19450 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071535Z 24015G26KT 4SM -SHSN BKN026 BKN035 M14/M18 A2978 RMK SC6SC1 SLP088 < 1389109381 490978 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have 73-second ping for some reason < 1389109393 278446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL < 1389109393 485047 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 071452Z 33014KT 10SM FEW250 M12/M21 A3050 RMK AO2 SLP348 T11171206 51021 < 1389109394 260518 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: this time i win < 1389109428 389907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: bleh :p < 1389109452 759918 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what's the proper translation for fr:verglas? < 1389109466 617879 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, describe verglas? < 1389109590 48761 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: when temperature goes over 0 °C, it rains or snow melts, then gets back under zero and you get ice everywhere. < 1389109596 169229 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we call it black ice here < 1389109629 234573 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it is on roads < 1389109636 979024 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing here. «glace noire» is the sneaky ice you get on roads and you can't see until your car's spinning every possible way. < 1389109652 974326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1389109660 666845 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define __rol__(x) (x << 1u) | (x >> ((sizeof(x) * CHAR_BIT) - 1)) < 1389109666 180029 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that's probably as good as it can get? < 1389109667 406799 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure there is a perfect translation < 1389109682 470666 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the french for frost or hoarfrost? < 1389109700 219900 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :frost is «givre». let me check on hoarfrost... < 1389109701 689148 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389109787 728553 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoar frost is «gelée blanche». < 1389109810 295746 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389109830 103276 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shnifty < 1389109879 814861 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sournouillard. < 1389110319 645513 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389110728 366752 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define NULL (sizeof "\??/" / sizeof "?/\?") < 1389110837 766415 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahww shoot. < 1389110854 754731 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1389110858 802432 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't account for that. < 1389110897 349642 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what the trigraphing-fungot are you #defining? < 1389110899 707252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't do an absolute jump to a 16bit address with an 8bit register and a Code Segment Register < 1389110911 786225 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I can't update the Code Segment Register < 1389110920 947829 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I obviously can't update *before* I take the jump < 1389110927 288359 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: A generic rotate left. < 1389110952 568800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm unless < 1389110974 387850 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn. < 1389111038 528480 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you, I don't know, like, maybe, #define NULL (0)? < 1389111086 619252 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh whait < 1389111091 256385 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You meant mauke < 1389111132 391870 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again foiled by the tab. yes, I meant mauke. < 1389111137 742818 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us JOIN :#esoteric < 1389111142 97156 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles mauke “you vile #definer!” < 1389111237 881205 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1389111243 793441 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :having only two registers sucks . < 1389111390 291304 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: FUNGOT! < 1389111421 290224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brave sir fungot ran away < 1389111763 265838 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :NULL is 0, but not really. < 1389111895 72572 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1389112010 467544 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is NULL 0 or not 0? < 1389112010 634964 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that's some complicated glass code? :p. ugh i need to install slime. < 1389112012 24543 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: so, what is it, then? < 1389112098 773653 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an "implementation-defined null pointer constant" hth < 1389112123 695257 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... NULL is null. tdnh. < 1389112149 591023 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define (funny_type *) 0 < 1389112157 532027 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it help if I add that a null pointer constant is an integer constant expression with the value 0, or such an expression cast to type void *. < 1389112157 970439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :arg. #define NULL etc. < 1389112177 684147 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. < 1389112240 535332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so NULL is zero. < 1389112264 141880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a zero cast to a void *. < 1389112274 950043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's the latter, "int i = NULL" is not guaranteed to give you a zero in i. < 1389112303 605606 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. I think I now understand the nuance. < 1389112323 801380 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389112325 140693 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it's the former, then printf("%p", NULL); might be undefined. < 1389112326 494345 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, you still can #define NULL (0) and get a non-zero (void *), can you? < 1389112360 124522 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define NULL '\0' < 1389112364 757516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean a "not-all-bits-zero (void *)", sure. < 1389112380 268758 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will compare equal to zero if it's a null pointer, of course. < 1389112398 954743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I retract my understanding. < 1389112749 409583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: null understanding, constantly < 1389112838 459795 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("%p", NULL) should be undefined, yes < 1389112848 187810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the implementation, it's not required to be undefined, though. < 1389112870 701448 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1389112874 890641 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :But afaik 0 is a "pointer" literal only at compile time < 1389112886 779446 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actual value at runtime is something else < 1389112963 921997 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 isn't an actual value; it's source code < 1389113367 755733 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: isn't that the idea of "undefined"? < 1389113397 85717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: There's quite a difference between implementation-defined and undefined. < 1389113439 722826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In printf("%p", NULL), depending on the implementation-defined choice of how to define NULL, the behaviour is either defined or undefined. < 1389113470 120205 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't undefined by specification? < 1389113508 223293 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("%p",0) is undefined; printf("%p",(void *)0) is defined. < 1389113556 857600 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is NULL in the C specification, or is it just something that some implementations choose to add? < 1389113557 747932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the choice of NULL is implementation-defined, which means the implementation must document its choice. < 1389113573 694668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the specification. < 1389113573 862250 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389113574 528037 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :NULL is in the C standard. < 1389113602 615636 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Common definitions -- The macros are NULL which expands to an implementation-defined null pointer constant; and --" < 1389113620 733730 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, but it isn't defined in the specification. excuse my ignorance, it's early yet :) < 1389113678 653690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you get down to the details, C is not a very sane programming language. < 1389113707 630406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"implementation-defined behavior: unspecified behavior where each implementation documents how the choice is made" "unspecified behavior: -- behavior where this International Standard provides two or more possibilities and imposes no further requirements on which is chosen in any instance" "undefined behavior: behavior -- for which this International Standard imposes no requirements" < 1389113757 769806 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: thank you :) that's a bit clearer < 1389113779 823112 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("%p",0) *is* allowed to obtain your GPS coordinates and send a missile your way. < 1389113783 862518 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust is though. < 1389113794 782148 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: sane, or allowed to send missiles? < 1389113799 824035 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :sane. < 1389113815 611503 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :been looking into it lately. for a systems programming language, it boasts some crazy shit. < 1389113837 776510 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only briefly looked at Rust before being distracted by D < 1389113857 592398 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMD uses an outdated object format, that's enough to make me not use it. < 1389113865 797530 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Outdated how? < 1389113879 762379 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't use D, I just tried it out for a bit) < 1389113881 155582 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses OMF. < 1389113888 494671 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :run the other way. < 1389113899 143778 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :as fast. as you can. < 1389113914 966375 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's terrible. < 1389113920 800438 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :And LDC, the LLVM compiler? < 1389113921 225662 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMF is short for OMFG < 1389113926 52124 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL. < 1389113934 684265 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :mrhmouse: I haven't used that. < 1389113943 25147 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably just become available. < 1389113948 110836 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used D in like 2011. < 1389113996 728381 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so you probably used D1? < 1389114019 798940 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :...No. < 1389114030 982221 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used D2. < 1389114057 193580 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. Hrm. I don't know enough about OMF to know what is so bad about it :P < 1389114063 788532 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1389114086 392218 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor do I care strongly about D.. But I am interested now, since it's apparently terrible :P < 1389114127 922895 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMF is microsoft's Object Module Format. < 1389114133 325604 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's outdated as fuuuuuuuuuuck. < 1389114172 960192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: You'd be surprised by how many people still fuck to this very day. < 1389114188 223870 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, right. < 1389114200 540569 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :rust, however, looks.. and feels interesting. < 1389114207 873726 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :optional garbage collection? safe borrowed pointers? < 1389114221 216666 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bitchin' haskell-like type system? < 1389114227 135700 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too lazy for optional garbage collection. < 1389114235 242765 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurrr. < 1389114243 27521 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's as simple as adding a sigil in front of a value. < 1389114243 756153 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Rust's pointer are glorious. < 1389114253 134322 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/er/ers < 1389114271 175807 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1389114337 209699 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :their structure of ownership for objects is orgasmic. < 1389114338 782934 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :The macros also interest me. That's about as much as I remember about Rusy < 1389114350 769107 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/sy/st < 1389114352 515512 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros in my eyes look like lisp macros. < 1389114363 988990 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :a much, much better alternative than C's preprocessor macros. < 1389114368 515152 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed. I prefer Scheme macros to Lisp macros, though. < 1389114377 142673 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed. < 1389114377 983620 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming you mean CL) < 1389114383 238922 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme is just cleaner in general. < 1389114389 705395 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL is full of legacy industrial shit. < 1389114401 158208 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got around to actually using all of it. < 1389114405 224913 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :My thoughts exactly, That's what got me using Scheme in the first place. < 1389114415 214075 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :racket's gotta be my favorite dialect. < 1389114432 56784 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using Chicken at the moment, simply because it's the one I learned with. < 1389114461 657305 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: http://docs.racket-lang.org/unstable/2d.html < 1389114491 175298 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it awesome?! < 1389114554 948526 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. It really is. < 1389114921 788482 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1389115265 481715 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389115346 389556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to learn Rust < 1389115350 198166 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at it < 1389115388 733672 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@WatchGuard.ellsworth-hs.ellsworth.k12.me.us QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389115395 144905 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389116021 400000 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1389116047 278640 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389116073 88459 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1389116227 212474 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389116689 245816 :qlkzy_!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1389116877 840583 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wctpixucndbktwpz JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117127 363351 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389117138 490104 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389117145 572893 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389117156 273806 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ukxbjokcwwtzhwco QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389117192 777489 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wctpixucndbktwpz NICK :CADD < 1389117196 170966 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117250 433198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389117301 498284 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117305 425859 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1389117307 583727 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117311 229930 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117323 424875 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1389117323 592273 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117535 955780 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com NICK :{} < 1389117541 304424 :{}!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com NICK :LinearInterpol < 1389117680 956817 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42892.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1389117986 555239 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389118158 216623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1389118160 507968 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1389118201 568135 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds > 1389118265 736460 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118269 857508 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118270 372236 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118298 736543 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118302 858773 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118303 373764 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118331 746941 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118335 867808 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118336 382319 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118385 774605 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389118386 369931 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118389 896264 JOIN :#esoteric > 1389118390 412099 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389120477 882741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LinearInterpol: the @-boxes in Rust aren't actually garbage collected, yet < 1389120481 566999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are just reference-counted < 1389120495 173199 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh? < 1389120517 475561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the future it's likely that Gc, Rc, and Arc will coexist in the language (the latter is "atomic reference counting" that can be shared between threads) < 1389120522 954178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are mutable versions of each, too < 1389120534 545416 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389120543 878019 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :any box with automatic memory management is an ownership root and so determines the mutability of its contents < 1389120557 721508 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1389120592 857785 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new dynamically sized types are a great concept. < 1389120608 387112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would come in handy for some things I'm doing, for sure < 1389120629 648103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like making a generic linked list which can hold trait objects without an additional indirection < 1389120678 627694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like owned vectors and slices won't be subsumed by DSTs though... that is ~[T] and &[T] will still be special even if [T] is now a valid type < 1389120687 851228 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't been following the details that closely < 1389120748 676153 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389120800 822956 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389121030 926689 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have any Lispbots in the channel? < 1389121042 988504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what other systems have undefined behavior, besides C? < 1389121047 9588 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a lisbot < 1389121056 405163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++, LLVM, electronic components < 1389121070 617019 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a bot that exthecutes Lipth code < 1389121104 386895 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the worst joke < 1389121110 507721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly CPU architectures don't, modulo errata < 1389121127 398418 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I do try < 1389121134 306752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are those undocumented instructions on the NMOS 6502 < 1389121147 651032 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not defined to be undefined, though :p < 1389121156 602147 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: a lisbot is also the main protagonist of a Scandinavian book series. hth. < 1389121160 869548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it is now!! < 1389121171 821196 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm going to try playing portal on my linux computer < 1389121175 185498 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this gonna be good < 1389121176 331871 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I finally learned what hth stands for. < 1389121188 801067 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose POSIX has undefined behavior < 1389121224 247047 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I need to publish that blog post before somebody scoops my trick of using read() into .text to do self modifying code < 1389121241 792822 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because really, who doesn't want to do that. < 1389121278 877127 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389121280 859121 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1389121294 797944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed that the LED lights in my living room will glitch when somebody's using the electric stove lighter in the kitchen < 1389121415 437479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not fair. "An ActionScript error has occurred: TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference. at BotaniculaLinux/invokeHandler()" < 1389121430 275151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn types < 1389121471 166890 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a null pointer error? i think it is < 1389121525 158828 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1389121572 265040 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is an electric stove lighter? < 1389121577 612897 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1389121591 782823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yeah, I guess that's a bit ambiguous < 1389121626 817906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stove is gas-powered but there's a circuit which makes a spark near each burner to light them < 1389121632 908120 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Female presenters at scientific mtgs increase 72%, when even one convener is a woman" wow < 1389121643 640495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :convener? < 1389121699 820900 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's a typo for convener, lol. < 1389121717 792798 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the same word to me, but anyway ,what does it meen? < 1389121721 804301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mean* god < 1389121741 141783 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :person convening the meeting < 1389121772 132343 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i thought it says 'covener' but it doens't. go me < 1389121814 777616 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://mbio.asm.org/content/5/1/e00846-13.full) < 1389121886 248391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.dailydot.com/politics/mpaa-joins-world-wide-web-consortium-w3c/ < 1389121949 486401 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw. < 1389122179 884622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389122336 747689 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1389122555 665635 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... interesting. it starts up on my netbook. < 1389122557 973670 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389122699 722264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also starts inside vnc, wtf. < 1389124192 62582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that was weird < 1389124222 567713 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I rebooted, shortcut keys were working, but I couldn't enter text < 1389124253 978657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the part of the system that translated keypresses to Unicode was broken, but the keyboard driver itself was fine < 1389124344 867882 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to have a special ability with keyboard problems < 1389124371 466085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1389124381 371165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was system-wide, though < 1389124389 141932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, gksudo and Unity could still understand me typing < 1389124393 787337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because they capture the keyboard < 1389124678 806289 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who of ais523 or zzo38 has the weirdest setup... < 1389124702 816359 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely zzo38 < 1389124769 933387 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought so. < 1389124849 654747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenERP lesson of the day: it's not because something is called sequence that it is a sequence, or it is called sequence. it is priority, when not being a sequence called sequence. < 1389125080 691002 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what are you using OpenERP for < 1389125208 622446 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: current job. < 1389125249 192552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :erp erp erp < 1389125418 860804 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION records kmc's call on a cassette recorder < 1389125454 241116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1389125574 254108 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :com'ere birdie birdie poot poot! ?! < 1389125608 442932 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat http://youtu.be/aeaPanpU-iw < 1389126525 538140 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, botanicula works properly now. I had managed to disable the RANDR X11 extension. < 1389126590 696180 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is odd; the extensions that I tried to disable was XINERAMA. Oh well, the mysteries of bad software.) < 1389126644 202168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably AMD's fault somehow :) < 1389127244 85535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :RANDR exports the multi-screen geometry via the Xinerama protocol, so it's not like those are completely separate things. < 1389127796 720725 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389128571 20934 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389128662 423762 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1389128918 722537 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42892.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1389129134 736312 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389129616 56050 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's still AMD's fault. < 1389129632 530835 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389129821 703798 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1389129821 985875 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 072100Z 23024G38KT 15SM SCT080 SCT130 BKN240 M14/M23 A2982 RMK AC3AC1CI3 SLP103 < 1389129827 342743 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh. still windy. < 1389130219 30029 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389130219 177303 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: DOUBLE CHICKEN < 1389130263 973735 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1389130566 408339 :atrapado!~dro@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1389130616 451427 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1389130777 431478 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weather people are saying that winter will come here on Friday. < 1389131009 707537 :augur!~augur@c-75-74-130-194.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389131522 623425 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KBGR < 1389131535 878140 :LinearInterpol!~RJones@cpe-76-178-249-81.maine.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1389131718 222076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1389132016 937964 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1389132471 813049 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/post/71646704753 < 1389132969 951509 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1389133144 15679 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is still my favorite: http://kingjamesprogramming.tumblr.com/post/71300641964/the-truth-of-the-matter-is-that-in-a-language < 1389133298 981708 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And the God of the Hebrews, How long wilt thou refuse to go forth, this is the normal state of affairs in conventional compiler-based language systems such as C." < 1389133306 400998 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh why hast thou forsaken me god! < 1389133311 849765 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1389133342 688902 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody should do this for KJV and ISO 9899 < 1389133367 957486 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Quran and Gravitation by Misner Wheeler and Thorpe < 1389133374 558668 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1389133376 846157 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Book of the Dead and the Origin of Species < 1389133404 789140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls Gravitation as that book with the suspiciously self-describing name < 1389133406 629754 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever I saw that (impressively thick) _Gravitation_ book in the campus bookstore I would pick it up and drop it a few feet < 1389133412 329499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-yep < 1389133421 326162 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravitation is pretty thick < 1389133428 44601 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though not the thickest science book around < 1389133430 492724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking gravity, how does it work? < 1389133434 292927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out nobody's quite sure < 1389133436 27981 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's no Handbook of Physics and Chemistry < 1389133446 583436 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1389133447 474917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the quran, on the other hand, is not so big iirc < 1389133465 609933 :Fiora!~Fiora@ec2-50-17-93-47.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitation_(manga) I guess it is impressively thick? < 1389133470 160997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe do the talmud instead. < 1389133507 905573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fiora: wrong reference hth < 1389133516 805069 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"impressively thick" brings something else to mind when we're talking about yaoi < 1389133529 282244 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yaoi has impressively big hands < 1389133543 316096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh think yaoi is a pretty cool guy < 1389133552 588704 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bigyaoihandsyndrome.tumblr.com/ < 1389133559 73166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clicking that at work < 1389133567 152595 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1389133572 885014 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't much naughtiness < 1389133578 373619 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there are barechested dudes < 1389133581 542944 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And much gayness < 1389133585 379205 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With huge hands < 1389133651 586752 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And Jacob called the name of the variable, preceded by a question mark." < 1389133653 116219 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheh < 1389133700 654560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, I know the chap who runs King James Programming < 1389133713 47457 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Moses < 1389133745 380418 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: say hi for me, also tell him to do King James ISO 9899 < 1389133770 757443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if "chap" and "bloke" would ever be gender-neutral the way that en_US "guy" sometimes is < 1389133797 33847 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to use "chap" more and more gender neutral < 1389133803 837132 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe ladies are "hags" in good ol' britain < 1389133813 414218 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wot wot < 1389133815 528544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, he says he doesn't have evidence that he isn't Moses < 1389133817 808304 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pardon me guvnahs < 1389133828 402800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wants a banger in the mouth < 1389133840 358610 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU THREATENING ME < 1389133854 566612 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, either that, or asking if you'd like a sausage < 1389133879 786714 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Take that as you will < 1389133942 78576 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gravitation is a great book < 1389133947 302384 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is a terrible textbook < 1389133954 297551 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even worst than a Feynman book < 1389133964 90106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worse hth < 1389133970 696908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just quoting a TV show < 1389133991 894651 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the kind of textbook with no fucking structure < 1389133998 737401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much like spacetime < 1389134014 133539 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spacetime has so much fucking structure man < 1389134017 854596 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the structuriest < 1389134445 791463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: whoaaaaa < 1389134451 481624 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 *  2 < 1389134452 900046 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 10 < 1389134486 339584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wraps up kmc in a ricci tensor < 1389134523 692515 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1389134528 349130 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 5 * -2 < 1389134529 398365 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Precedence parsing error < 1389134529 475705 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : cannot mix `GHC.Num.*' [infixl 7] and prefix `-' [infixl 6] in the same ... < 1389134532 858271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1389134543 655814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode > 5 *  2 < 1389134547 83260 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+003E GREATER-THAN SIGN] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+0035 DIGIT FIVE] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+002A ASTERISK] [U+0020 SPACE] [U+1680 OGHAM SPACE MARK] [U+0032 DIGIT TWO] < 1389134551 364645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> generalCategory ' ' < 1389134552 675820 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Space < 1389134554 981598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the best Space < 1389134567 183210 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text (filter isSpace ['\0'..]) < 1389134568 680961 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :   ᠎               < 1389134571 433659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : ouch. < 1389134590 770087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ⁢ < 1389134592 489529 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES] < 1389134609 122747 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but where's INVISIBLE THAMES < 1389134611 316970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f x = x^2; x = 3 in f x < 1389134612 824887 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1389134632 33664 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :VISIBLE SPACE < 1389134801 378863 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MULTIOCULAR O < 1389134802 945440 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character. < 1389134822 981399 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode CYRILLIC LETTER MULTIOCULAR O < 1389134824 411330 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ < 1389134859 378746 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :/whois mauke < 1389134870 82507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You monster < 1389134881 438220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some scoundrel < 1389134891 825570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode / < 1389134893 192841 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+002F SOLIDUS] < 1389134918 791001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode \ < 1389134920 363391 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+005C REVERSE SOLIDUS] < 1389134935 730615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote ꙮ < 1389134937 359127 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1143) A Swede who was in #esoteric / Thought his rhymes were a little generic. / "I might use, in my prose, / ꙮs, / But my poetry's alphanumeric." < 1389134971 589641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :obligatory complaint that ꙮ is Letter, Other < 1389134979 596631 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still that's an awesome poem :) < 1389134987 337873 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of my unicode poetry days < 1389134993 374641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I was looking that up the other day < 1389134999 640795 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote HIRAGANA < 1389135001 29645 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1389135003 323388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to see if `unidecode had all the characters but it hasn't :( < 1389135009 689479 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you can't spell sweden without wede" < 1389135020 876153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@wn wede < 1389135022 71602 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "wede". < 1389135034 970867 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode MAHJONG TILE AUTUMN < 1389135036 406050 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​🀨 < 1389135040 281842 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode HIRAGANA LETTER YA < 1389135041 868331 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​や < 1389135045 465190 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW < 1389135047 58088 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⛄ < 1389135053 518881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if chaucer did weed he might spell it that way < 1389135084 991208 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the limerick anymore. something about mathematical bold digit seven < 1389135133 345686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW is the best code point < 1389135170 102437 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really is. as if it was made to be the last line of a haiku < 1389135175 371496 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.100.12 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "zen" < 1389135176 576770 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW lived in INVISIBLE TIMES < 1389135194 871441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 < nooodl> HEXAGRAM FOR THE CREATIVE HEAVEN < 1389135194 951356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 < nooodl> MATHEMATICAL BOLD DIGIT SEVEN < 1389135194 951557 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 < nooodl> KANGXI RADICAL WHITE < 1389135194 951653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 < nooodl> VERTICAL TRAFFIC LIGHT < 1389135195 249385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 < nooodl> NEGATIVE CIRCLED NUMBER ELEVEN < 1389135209 46314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"may you live in invisible times" < 1389135236 623737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's what i think every time < 1389135249 795359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 򯀨や⛄ < 1389135251 275344 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+DA7C DUNNO] [U+DC28 DUNNO] [U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] < 1389135258 179454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking screen < 1389135295 681811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 🀨や⛄ < 1389135297 76465 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+D83C DUNNO] [U+DC28 DUNNO] [U+3084 HIRAGANA LETTER YA] [U+26C4 SNOWMAN WITHOUT SNOW] < 1389135309 18481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't help. < 1389135314 640090 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mauke.hopto.org/stuff/javascript/unicode.html?q=%F0%9F%80%A8%E3%82%84%E2%9B%84 < 1389135340 223432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so `unicode supports characters `unidecode doesn't < 1389135350 657646 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode.html does both < 1389135359 458584 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1389135378 949398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauke: i think the point was to try to get HackEgo to cite the poem < 1389135394 877300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes that "tile" is only debatably one syllable < 1389135400 753459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid english < 1389135412 248959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we were writing in Hangul we wouldn't have this problem!!!! < 1389135447 106589 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I though it failed because I'm IRCing through GNU Screen which doesn't do non-BMP chars < 1389135467 133261 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered using something that isn't GNU Screen < 1389135492 614080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well you did not paste the right character, but `unidecode didn't handle the right character either. < 1389135505 686060 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution < 1389135542 98768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/exec -o is always a game of Russian roulette < 1389135552 765719 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ䷀𝟕⽩🚦⓫ < 1389135554 180361 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+4DC0 HEXAGRAM FOR THE CREATIVE HEAVEN] [U+D835 DUNNO] [U+DFD5 DUNNO] [U+2F69 KANGXI RADICAL WHITE] [U+D83D DUNNO] [U+DEA6 DUNNO] [U+24EB NEGATIVE CIRCLED NUMBER ELEVEN] < 1389135564 378179 :mauke!~mauke@p3m/member/mauke PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, those are surrogate pairs < 1389135573 134898 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :/exec -ꙮ < 1389135581 967446 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :$`unidecode \xf0\x9f\x80\xa8\xe3\x82\x84\xe2\x9b\x84 < 1389135585 752201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :rage face < 1389135595 77799 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i bet my sh isn't bash or some shit < 1389135609 166670 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: btw i'm irc'ing through tmux and am having no problem. < 1389135780 731227 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://andrej.com/fan.html < 1389135797 554440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll create an andrej bauer fan club < 1389135819 949830 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll create an andrej bauer fan club creators fan club < 1389136238 625783 :mrhmouse!~jordan.br@firewall1.photobooks.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1389136455 968536 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~cangiuli/sigbovik/unintentional.pdf < 1389136605 885514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Γ ⊢ FIXME: are these equal? < 1389136712 630736 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :see also cited http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rjsimmon/random/bovik2007.pdf < 1389136797 846921 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good introduction and elimination rules < 1389137481 871382 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kjprejects.tumblr.com/ < 1389137530 375472 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1389137539 211778 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just created < 1389137554 451058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :King James ISO 9899 doooo it < 1389137567 214948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not in charge! < 1389137572 320151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you Know A Guy < 1389137583 623758 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Know A Chap < 1389137590 678018 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's... not any difference < 1389137665 332905 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-204-47.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it came to pass that signed overflow?? < 1389137788 285905 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1389138117 800985 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1389138753 511250 :gwinbee!~upupdownd@74-133-97-136.dhcp.insightbb.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1389138831 311099 :gwinbee!~upupdownd@74-133-97-136.dhcp.insightbb.com PART #esoteric :"The last Metroid is in captivity. The Galaxy is at peace."