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Do you mean the Don Woods who invented INTERCAL and Colossal Cave Adventure? 05:47:55 yes 05:49:07 hi zzo38! 05:55:07 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: hnitg). 06:01:28 I'm a spherical coordinate library! 06:01:46 https://npmjs.org/package/sgeo 06:02:34 I'm a trendy tote-bag! 06:02:38 Spherical coordinates; it can be useful for geography and for astronomy, perhaps. Probably other things too. 06:03:32 yep 06:03:46 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 06:04:43 it's kind of neat that you can use the same kind of coördinates whether you are inside the sphere or outside of it 06:04:45 -!- augur has joined. 06:06:35 Can it convert between different references that the longitude is measured on? (For example, this would apply to convert between ecliptic and equatorial coordinates; it would have other purposes too in other areas of study too.) 06:08:26 sgeo can you do that 06:09:47 I have no idea 06:10:57 get more self-actualized 06:20:38 Sgeo: where does your nick come from anyway 06:21:00 Mashing together my first and last name 06:21:26 ok 06:21:33 "a common approach" 06:24:19 iojdsalkfj 06:24:25 WHERE DOES THAT STOCK SOUND COME FROM 06:24:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCHq6sioZ1E around 1:58 06:24:50 It's one I've heard in Cybertown 06:29:43 aerated chocolate is strange 06:30:43 is it a foam 06:30:47 open-cell or closed-cell? 06:33:07 i don't know 06:36:15 Do you know what is supposed to happen in Sirlin's chess if a duel results in the attacker being exposed to check? (I am guessing the attacker just loses the game as if he ended a turn in check in any other way.) 06:59:53 Is Sirlin's Chess 2 public domain? 06:59:58 Would kind of... suck if it wasn' 07:00:27 Also, what do chess variant sites call it? I doubt they're just going to be fine with calling some random variant "chess 2" 07:02:52 chess 2 #483 07:03:07 -!- tromp has joined. 07:04:54 Sgeo: I really don't like the name "Chess 2" for this game, so I call it "Sirlin's Chess"; other people do too. I don't think the file is in public domain, although you could make implementations and descriptions which are public domain, I think. (The file can be purchased for $0.00, though.) 07:05:18 can i purchase it for CHF 0.00 instead 07:06:28 btw, it turns out that the biggest Bitcoin mining pool is pretty close to 51% 07:06:28 I don't know what CHF is, but probably you can. 07:06:59 which is worrying just because it screws up the assumptions behind Bitcoin for that sort of thing to happen naturally 07:07:04 ais523: as in, literally 51%, or as in, almost at 50%? 07:07:17 Sgeo: not even 49% 07:07:21 AFAIK 07:07:29 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 07:09:31 ais523: doesn't a majority mean you can break bitcoin since you can invent fake histories and force them on the cloud? 07:09:45 coppro: you can't force a transaction to happen that didn't 07:09:55 but you can arbitrarily remove a transaction from recent history 07:10:16 (the chance of being able to do that depends on how recent) 07:10:32 that pretty much destroys Bitcoin's integrity because you can spend money, then undo spending it and send it to someone else 07:10:42 right 07:11:15 do modern transaction softwares include detection of that sort of fraud? 07:12:03 the entire point of the protocol is to detect that sort of fraud 07:12:35 but it relies on at least 50% of the miners being honest 07:12:38 right 07:12:58 but if I'm the guy who receives the money, and later the cloud disagrees, I could theoretically alert my user 07:13:08 yeah, but they can't do much but bitch 07:13:52 if it happened a lot though then they might be able to convince others to join in retake the cloud in favour of the honest miners 07:23:15 I play Sirlin's other games too, such as Yomi and Puzzle Strike, and even made up new decks, rule variants, characters, puzzle chips, game modes, etc. 07:23:55 Do you know any of these games? 07:30:48 Is there a hardware implementation of LLVM? 07:38:53 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Quit: Bye.). 07:43:25 `localtime Bike 07:44:39 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.). 07:48:22 hey kmc or anyone else, is there a good book on linux drivers (or drivers in general, if that's even a thing) 07:52:11 Linux Device Drivers 07:52:48 who'd have thought (thnks) 07:53:19 ff, it's on lwn but in separate chapters. why do they do that... 07:54:28 * kmc -> sleep 07:54:30 'night all 08:14:44 Any of you guys familiar with fourier transformation? 08:14:59 mroman: I am somewhat familiar. 08:15:02 Ok. 08:15:35 x(t-l) -> X(f)*e^(-i*2*pi*f*l) 08:15:58 time shifting property 08:16:35 cos(2pi*f*t) has 0.5 at both +f and -f 08:17:14 f0 that is 08:17:31 which is usually written as 0.5*d(f-f0) + 0.5*d(f+f0) 08:17:35 where d is that dirac thingy 08:17:54 X(f)*e^(-i*pi/4) should then be 08:18:16 0.5*e^(-i*pi/4)*d(f-f0) + 0.5*e^(-i*pi/4)*d(f+f0) 08:18:33 these readings are impossible! shinji, get out now! the quantum condensation is trapping you in a dirac thingie! 08:18:46 at leasts that's what I understand under *multiply spectrum with e^(-i*pi/4)* 08:18:59 but apparentely it's totally wrong :( 08:19:55 Bike: dirac sea! 08:20:43 no doctor, the desaturation tides are reversed... it's no longer a sea... but... a thingie... 08:20:57 On the other hand... 08:21:05 Bike: it's a villainous octahedron 08:21:26 the fourier coefficients of that cos thingy are c_1 = 0.5 08:21:56 and doing the time shift there yields c_1 = 0.5*e^(-i*pi/4) 08:22:07 which means that c_-1 is 0.5*e^(i*pi/4) 08:23:11 Which suggests that 0.5*d(f-f0) is just some notation 08:23:27 and one shouldn't acually apply the multiplication on that 08:25:59 zzo38: nvm. Looks like some notation issue I fell into :) 08:56:17 -!- samebchase has joined. 09:13:08 -!- upgrayeddd has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:16:31 -!- upgrayeddd has joined. 09:17:32 -!- iamcal has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 09:17:51 -!- iamcal_ has joined. 09:19:12 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 09:19:45 -!- Sgeo has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 09:34:18 "LDD3 is current as of the 2.6.10 kernel." wait, shit 09:50:40 -!- LinearInterpol has joined. 09:57:31 I have used Fourier transform to implement PADsynth only, so far, although I know it has other uses too. 10:01:55 i suppose a book about current kernel anything is basically impossible, huh 10:02:08 perhaps i need.... a monograph 10:15:54 Bike: It needs to be a wikibook, obvs. 10:43:01 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 11:08:12 -!- mauke has quit (Disconnected by services). 11:08:13 -!- mauke_ has joined. 11:09:54 -!- preflex_ has joined. 11:10:33 -!- preflex has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 11:10:38 -!- preflex_ has changed nick to preflex. 11:12:44 -!- mauke_ has changed nick to mauke. 11:18:50 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:31:46 -!- LinearInterpol has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 11:33:49 -!- nooodl has joined. 11:38:21 -!- MindlessDrone has joined. 11:39:28 kmc: I’m pretty sure their signals don’t really reach Finiland. 11:39:35 modulo typos 11:40:51 -!- FreeFull has joined. 11:41:03 if I typo a signla it reaches all the way to Finland? 11:43:24 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 11:45:58 Tomorrow I'm going to try to write out my Kernel vs. Rebol example 11:56:40 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:57:15 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 11:57:15 -!- sebbu has joined. 11:59:17 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:00:07 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:00:41 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 12:00:42 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:02:02 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:02:34 How do private schools in the US work? 12:03:05 I assume they are still controlled by the government in order to ensure 12:03:18 that the education they receive there is adequate to public schools? 12:04:21 in the UK there's a government inspection body that does exactly that, i assume the US works along similar lines 12:12:09 In Sweden too 12:32:11 actually I assume schooling in the US is mostly unregulated 12:34:34 -!- Sorella has joined. 12:39:30 I've heard it's more regulated in the US than it is in Sweden 12:51:07 -!- nooodl has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:51:33 -!- nooodl has joined. 12:55:37 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:56:11 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 12:56:11 -!- sebbu has joined. 12:57:39 There must be some sort of university accreditation, because all those degree-by-email "universities" are always mentioned as unaccredited. 12:57:50 "In most countries around the world, the function of educational accreditation for higher education is conducted by a government organization, such as a ministry of education. In the United States, however, the quality assurance process is independent of government and performed by private membership associations.[1]" 12:58:49 "The U.S. Department of Education and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) (a non-governmental organization) both recognize reputable accrediting bodies for institutions of higher education and provide guidelines as well as resources and relevant data regarding these accreditors. 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" 19:04:35 I do not get it 19:04:42 If it's about telegraphs, it's a bit early 19:04:52 But if it's about actual mail, it's a bit late 19:05:01 Oh wait 19:05:04 He means 19:05:08 émaille 19:05:11 Dohoho 19:22:42 -!- impomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:26:50 hmm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_Limited 19:30:13 -!- tromp_ has joined. 19:31:30 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 19:40:09 -!- tromp_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 19:40:41 -!- tromp has joined. 19:41:15 -!- Phantom__Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 19:44:47 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 19:47:26 -!- tromp has joined. 20:00:46 -!- impomatic has joined. 20:00:54 -!- Phantom__Hoover has joined. 20:01:49 -!- ter2 has joined. 20:03:47 -!- FreeFull has quit (Read error: Operation timed out). 20:05:37 -!- tertu has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds). 20:12:54 "Call for Papers - Special Issue on Facial Biometrics in the Wild" 20:16:10 Is tetzold.com down for anyone else? 20:33:49 seems to be down from here 20:42:11 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/tetzold.com 20:49:22 -!- ter2 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 20:52:00 -!- tromp has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 20:52:33 -!- tromp has joined. 20:55:01 -!- w00tles has quit (Quit: quit). 20:57:39 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 20:59:21 -!- ter2 has joined. 21:04:34 -!- ter2 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds). 21:06:48 -!- FreeFull has joined. 21:38:36 Thanks, have emailed the site owner. 21:39:40 -!- MindlessDrone has quit (Quit: MindlessDrone). 21:54:28 -!- nooodl has joined. 22:04:41 -!- yorick has joined. 22:11:52 -!- S1_ has joined. 22:12:23 -!- S1_ has quit (Client Quit). 22:14:21 -!- S1 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 22:27:41 -!- Bike has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 22:30:08 http://i.imgur.com/mQmXYh4.png 22:30:49 Uh oh 22:34:56 Spock MacGyver http://youtu.be/wzBShJ2dNfQ 22:49:55 -!- tromp has joined. 22:50:02 -!- tromp has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 22:50:31 -!- tromp has joined. 23:15:25 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 23:22:09 -!- oerjan has joined. 23:33:42 -!- conehea__ has joined. 23:34:06 -!- conehead has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 23:34:34 -!- conehea__ has changed nick to conehead. 23:35:05 -!- zzo38 has joined. 23:50:25 -!- Bike has joined.