< 1390782207 740372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1390782339 847777 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1390782389 721556 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390783007 754070 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.158.25 QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1390787589 726773 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1390787815 492734 :SirCmpwn!~SirCmpwn@unaffiliated/sircmpwn JOIN :#esoteric < 1390788083 648269 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1390788664 701097 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1390790174 962783 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life gain is usually considered weak, right? Looks like Sunbound makes it better? < 1390790298 747775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. Eternity Snare is expensive. Eternity Snare lets you draw a card, but at the cost of making one of your creatures hard to untap < 1390790303 985935 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That.... seems a bit silly < 1390790325 224751 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can enchant opponent's cards too not only your own < 1390790337 508908 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, good point, thank you < 1390790457 643802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should look for that mythic rare I have lying around < 1390790470 199773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I remember offhand is that it's green < 1390790486 774584 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I might be misremembering if it's mythic rare or rare < 1390790499 608013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that I got it in 2012 < 1390790603 476742 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have two magic: the gathering cards that are mythic rare < 1390790849 724750 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or is Vortex Elemental _very_ good in some situations? < 1390792926 281212 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1390793996 488148 :guardianx_!guardian@124-170-90-55.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1390795009 919149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What block was released in 2012? < 1390795178 156016 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1390795802 744187 :jd123u!~jd123u@gateway/tor-sasl/jd123u JOIN :#esoteric < 1390797358 230232 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1390797976 107772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1390798090 788011 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=3352&type=card < 1390798095 91321 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are Endbringers talking? < 1390798103 966992 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they exist in the Magic universe? < 1390798206 455650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once wrote a program to generate a booster pack for any official set and print out proxies, although I don't think it works anymore since they changed the system. < 1390799566 826611 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1390799707 911296 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390800071 676800 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1390800153 454430 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390800629 232350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1390800713 765961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390800728 344812 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390801046 771349 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1390801388 744677 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390801452 663442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390802107 121104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you aware of the ZPAQ format? < 1390802301 183158 :guardianx!guardian@202-173-173-121.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1390802308 167164 :guardianx_!guardian@124-170-90-55.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1390802329 632263 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://mattmahoney.net/dc/zpaq203.pdf ? < 1390802385 435054 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it felt to me like a Vorbis setup page (notorious for its relatively large initialization setp) < 1390802388 432741 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :step* < 1390802623 298369 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390802657 845860 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390802665 809522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes, that one < 1390802703 536640 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time I've seen that there was no journaling format nor encrypted format < 1390802714 594922 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1390802931 844765 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1390803119 250181 :guardianx!guardian@202-173-173-121.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT : < 1390803140 235975 :guardianx!guardian@202-173-173-121.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1390803226 973303 :jd123u!~jd123u@gateway/tor-sasl/jd123u QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390806077 202368 :werebutt!~buttbutt@46.165.251.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390806078 606565 :werebutt!~buttbutt@46.165.251.66 PART :#esoteric < 1390806517 763153 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1390807360 134090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1390807586 206957 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1390808501 538976 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like their ideas that the decompression is included part of the file so that you can use custom algorithms and predictors, although I would think a lot more compression is possible. ZPAQ may also be slow, however. < 1390808606 585332 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was pondering about the self-extracting portable game format (a la Z machine) with a reasonably fast VM. < 1390808745 228075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Z-machine is different than that. < 1390808775 335529 :guardianx!guardian@202-173-173-121.dyn.iinet.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390808783 734593 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1390808831 584183 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah, I was talking about the positioning from the user's perspective, the resulting format will be much more versatile. < 1390808926 475587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you mean by a self-extracting portable game format though. < 1390809215 102685 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: hmm, what I was having in mind was something like GBA ROM, which acts as a "portable" game format with a defined VM semantics. "self-extracting" means that it is designed for compactness, maybe hundreds of KBs maximum. < 1390809292 889076 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do agree that my idea (if it can be called as an idea after all) is too vague < 1390809684 189477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK. Yes, GBA ROM format does do such a thing but maybe it is too complicated. I can understand what you mean now though. < 1390809751 775843 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not rar-vm? < 1390810004 456345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@rar < 1390810004 723250 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: yarr run rc part faq arr < 1390810010 747752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: weak < 1390810028 73161 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarar < 1390810036 234469 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, yet another rar < 1390810127 875288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to use format that it could fit in one or two QR codes without normally being too large, but maybe that is difficult. < 1390810471 836675 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390810673 700795 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390810697 842331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390810922 727014 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390811143 831846 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390811351 662840 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390811376 181984 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390811444 212013 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390811450 751953 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1390811450 906041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390811471 688615 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have immense respect for doctors < 1390811491 636840 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to debug shitty haphazard code that's literally full of bugs, some of which are in fact required for proper operation < 1390811539 644668 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most part they debug using observed behaviour, although there's a poor built-in diagnostic tool in the voice interface, as well as the ability to perform more advanced but still limited diagnostics at great cost < 1390811675 652752 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody really understands the code any more, it's a matter of significant debate whether anyone ever did, and in practice the only real way to do any actual work is to try things and see what happens < 1390811718 814508 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully the system is fairly resilient, because it can't be rebooted, but you have to account for the fact that you have extremely wonky behaviour where something can affect something seemingly unrelated < 1390811778 295038 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention that a significant amount of the program is run by several competing layers of AI, with varying amounts of access to the program's functions and varying levels of sophistication. And sometimes the AI is buggy. < 1390812174 538629 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1390812212 434616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: talking about AIs that are sometimes buggy, I was working a bunch on optimizing aimake < 1390812219 801369 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1390812234 15501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now does backwards chaining internally to work out which order to run rules in, falling back to its previous behaviour (forward chaining) when that doesn't help (i.e. rule outputs aren't known) < 1390812250 537453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means it wastes a lot less time trying to work out which rules are runnable, it's around twice as fast now < 1390812260 231560 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's the "-j2" you were asking for ;-) < 1390812277 640026 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1390812287 269809 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1390812370 700712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390812459 663680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390812595 921722 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390812611 843343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390812924 888798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390812931 776197 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390813037 736445 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1390813052 794891 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390813739 756369 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390813815 350533 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390813953 747954 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1390813963 666646 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390814424 677475 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390814431 150307 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390815019 4458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1390815028 272664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zendikar boosters sometimes contained Power Nine cards?!?!? < 1390815039 34076 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390815050 945790 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390815067 8696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: FIX YOU CONNECTION MKAY < 1390815070 700924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+R < 1390815079 473920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't own this connection, it's borrowed < 1390815089 46650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :STEAL ONE THAT WORKS MKAY < 1390815108 839328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, time to administer a turing-test to ais523? < 1390815114 331432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm intentionally using a bad connection so that I don't end up getting sidetracked and wasting too much time online < 1390815155 240495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ok but we'll have to ban you if you keep cycling mkay < 1390815174 973513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me take the channel off autojoin for a while, then < 1390815193 391440 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PART :#esoteric < 1390815201 705727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1390815212 929844 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip < 1390815403 836752 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Contraption is a new artifact type. There are currently no artifacts with this type. And there's no current game meaning of "assemble."" < 1390816542 690804 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1390817669 663074 :itsy!~digital_w@87.115.158.25 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1390818330 78263 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce the sixt issue of the International Journal Transactions on Machine Learning and Data Mining, (ISSN: 1865-6781), Volume 6 - Number 2 - Ocotber 2013 --" I'm not sure I trust a journal that misspells "sixth" (both in subject and body) and "October" in their spam. < 1390818360 731966 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1390818369 517012 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1390819647 582817 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1390820868 970022 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390820884 732210 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I just had to block a spambot for 23 years instead of the usual 14 < 1390820890 593306 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y2038 problem strikes early :-( < 1390820898 273800 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*instead of the usual 24 < 1390820916 361224 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess this is the end of 24-year blocks at Esolang, at least until someone fixes the date situatoin < 1390820918 270226 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*situation < 1390820979 511706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where does the number 24 come from? < 1390821186 191049 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390821197 422230 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390821245 811204 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was because the default used to be "24 hours", and graue change it to "24 years" because it was the fastest long period of time to produce with keyboard movements < 1390821407 633130 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1390821899 933551 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1390823268 706281 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1390823649 551392 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1390825032 351178 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1390825097 417418 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390825390 309500 :numblungs!~numblungs@cpe-74-77-62-107.buffalo.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390825433 318319 :numblungs!~numblungs@cpe-74-77-62-107.buffalo.res.rr.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1390825598 766775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1390825824 828971 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390826028 991689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, a conference deadline *was not extended*. Strange. < 1390826108 180551 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1390827006 698329 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390827166 318675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390827366 956557 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: /quit < 1390827368 908624 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390827493 466062 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390827747 317675 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390827793 222961 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390828357 224214 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390828698 171656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1390828698 568614 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 271300Z 01013KT 3/4SM -SN OVC013 M15/M17 A2930 RMK SN4NS4 SLP926 < 1390828709 475536 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :only -SN? pfshaw. < 1390828764 112850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1390828764 498996 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 271250Z 09011KT 9999 -SN BKN010 M09/M11 Q1026 NOSIG < 1390828769 485413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :-SN buddies! < 1390828781 203995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It got warm here, though. < 1390828786 197356 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI < 1390828786 583813 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 271250Z VRB01KT 9999 FEW015 SCT060 BKN100 02/M00 Q0999 R08/490345 NOSIG < 1390828973 893892 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390830203 892288 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390830499 380149 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390830804 895062 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Figure 1 gives a nice minesweeper puzzle to think about. If you find it easy you probably are a real minesweeper addict, and are getting to be quite good at the game" <-- I found a solution in like 10 seconds, not because I'm good at Minesweeper, but because the text implied there was only one solution < 1390830825 419696 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and knowing there was only one solution, noticed that as the puzzle was symmetrical, the solution must be too < 1390830839 68778 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a nice general-purpose method for solving many types of puzzles < 1390831005 502486 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1390831195 174585 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of puzzles, I tried my hand at Ninja Twins yesterday → http://dev.kronbits.com/ninjatwins < 1390831223 341768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the puzzles in that game are evil. < 1390832101 234483 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Item is Latin for "as well as"; the fact that it ended up preceding each object in a list gave it its modern usage. " < 1390832249 826322 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390832980 14946 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: which puzzle < 1390833041 258217 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it was a Minesweeper puzzle on a 6x6 grid; the four centre squares are all 0, the squares immediately adjacent to them (including diagonals) are all 2s, the other squares are unknown < 1390833044 123414 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to place the mines < 1390833058 340957 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :without information on how many there are < 1390833100 487074 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1390833103 891801 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... < 1390833107 919650 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390833133 726290 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390833305 36239 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: many things become easier if you just know that solutions are unique < 1390833323 609827 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1390833329 278506 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, it's much faster to parse context free languages if you know the grammar gives unique presentations for words < 1390833346 725550 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(even if there's no actual "reason" for determinism like LL or LR) < 1390833359 896671 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how difficult is it to prove that a context free language is unambiguous? actually undecidable, or just a horrendous computational class? < 1390833401 882103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's undecidable because emptiness of intersection is undecidable < 1390833424 124635 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, makes sense < 1390833440 339237 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can express the language w_1#w_2#...#w_n where w_{2i + 1} is the next step of a turing machine from w_{2i} < 1390833444 43033 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except flipped) < 1390833458 202871 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can do the same for w_{2i+1} vs w_{2i+2} < 1390833478 752189 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and intersection is then nonempty iff the turing machine halts (because w_n has to be a halting config in both, which is regular to check) < 1390833494 547164 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by regular i mean checkable by FSM) < 1390833520 81617 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I'd use PCP, but that's essentially the same. < 1390833532 331828 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm just eliminating a step < 1390833533 882277 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck pcp < 1390833534 175111 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pcp definition: phencyclidine. < 1390833544 373643 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to prove pcp undecidable, you do essentially what i said < 1390833546 235940 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post's Correspondence Problem. < 1390833556 206440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yes, I know. Hence "essentially the same" :) < 1390833583 4694 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1390833715 953972 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: interesting. < 1390833730 286258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has esolanging ideas... < 1390833974 73845 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: i have the solution and proof of uniqueness < 1390834003 358500 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i needed a bit of case analysis) < 1390834022 718433 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think the author overestimates how hard the puzzle is, or perhaps is going about it the wrong way < 1390834138 767945 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well finding _a_ solution is of course rather trivial < 1390834206 14122 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a row of 2s you use a 110110110 pattern, i can imagine that the correct solution is the most likely guess < 1390834215 812914 :ais523_!93bcc35f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.95 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1390834229 590270 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i didn't think, i let math tell me the solution) < 1390834465 516639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, which puzzle? < 1390834504 535423 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minesweeper one? < 1390834725 797372 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not too difficult. We have to split the corner 2s among the two sides; but 022 is impossible, so that 1221 on each side is the only possibility left. < 1390837464 744348 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1390838878 639172 :messi!~canaima@200.11.146.254 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390838908 472177 :messi!~canaima@200.11.146.254 PART :#esoteric < 1390840040 19584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how tohow to give a functional alcoholic strong, static typing? < 1390840150 516270 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mu < 1390840502 478562 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390841134 696966 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any continental Europeans around? < 1390841144 782802 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nordic countries count) < 1390841801 448972 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: hmm. how do the ninja twins sliding blocks work? < 1390841832 632641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: did you enjoy the free continental breakfast < 1390841832 818203 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but you should strive for good hygiene, that's always the fun part isn't it < 1390841849 394350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 420 wash hands everyday < 1390841849 628521 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: like an evil version of kibo i take it you fnord for it... :) it don't use the mouse < 1390842057 37739 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL < 1390842057 464506 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 271652Z 33011KT 10SM FEW038 SCT060 SCT110 14/04 A2994 RMK AO2 SLP139 T01440039 < 1390842076 911263 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like metasepia. it uses a prefix character that my phone is capable of typing < 1390842225 143344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the answer is that the linux version's game logic is broken < 1390842944 763375 :nooodl^!~nooodl@109.139.21.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390843663 938116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md < 1390844176 947072 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390844302 554374 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1390844498 108360 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i try to imagine what Mobius Chess would look like, it always looks like absolute carnage that ends in a draw... < 1390844595 117632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1390844650 99496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Y2038 problem strikes early :-( <-- wat. < 1390844706 211852 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hi me < 1390844731 463524 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390844737 664617 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1390844772 604449 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: are you proud of your health care system? < 1390844819 799731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1390844820 251155 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 271720Z 12016KT CAVOK M01/M11 Q1010 TEMPO 11022G35KT RMK WIND 670FT 14016KT < 1390844837 903007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that /M11 means the weather is ridiculously dry, right? < 1390844849 789644 :nooodl^!~nooodl@109.139.21.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390844904 556653 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i am, yeah < 1390844940 608522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand some parts of northern norway haven't had precipitation since new year < 1390845596 71228 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390845602 664887 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1390845664 871881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION solves ais523's minesweeper puzzle without assuming uniqueness. < 1390845688 697810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because that's the sort of thing i do. < 1390845715 658149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also gotta solve it without assuming existence < 1390845866 564118 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that... sounds tricky to define in a way that doesn't seriously cramp your logic < 1390845922 694865 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an imperative esolang wherin all instructions modify state? < 1390845925 329297 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, presumably it just means that you don't know whether there's a solution or not < 1390845935 736565 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: they slide one cell when you bump into them, and gravity affects them. < 1390845936 737807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think the usual case < 1390845945 632290 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and damn, that mac'n'cheese was good!) < 1390845962 822079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yes, but the _first_ step is do assume there is a solution to either deduce its properties or get a contradiction < 1390846075 950663 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe it is tricky to define < 1390846086 870291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ngevd: malbolge hth < 1390846105 854263 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan hth < 1390846110 200910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1390846146 467508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia. enjoying a drink? < 1390846174 996944 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yørjan < 1390846255 323112 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: yes, as I wrote, the linux version is broken (for me). the flash version makes more sense. < 1390846290 208639 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh hm. I seem to have missed that part of the conversation. I'm frying my brain over the Ouya Version. < 1390846361 954417 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390846368 664022 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1390846384 731536 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm only up to level 11. tricky :) < 1390846438 847416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Any continental Europeans around? <-- now there is. < 1390846467 260275 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Is there an imperative esolang wherin all instructions modify state?" <- brainfuck? < 1390846488 634157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. doesn't modify state < 1390846500 643777 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :program counter! < 1390846505 299701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also all the comment characters, if those count as "instructions" < 1390846524 782089 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda? hey, code, data, what's the difference ... < 1390846535 120519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: if that counts then it seems like a pretty trivial question < 1390846548 427669 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm not sure what counts as state and what doesn't < 1390846551 805127 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge, perhaps < 1390846568 637703 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you proud of your health care system? < 1390846578 109066 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you state state with your changed states, or is state implicit, and therefore stateful state? < 1390846578 445787 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s/ and < 1390846597 484272 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: and? < 1390846597 936370 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i've checked legal ages of all countries suck. big time. ( tuples aren't _quite_ dotted lists: ' in the intuitive notion where there's actually a lot more excited by the coming reload, it crashes < 1390846615 615123 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've been thinking about the wire-crossing problem < 1390846618 299544 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you proud of your health care system? < 1390846618 645078 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so all that will have to < 1390846631 615593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it could be better, but it could be _far_ worse. < 1390846637 544630 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm american, ask me if i'm proud of my health care system < 1390846649 690700 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I already know the answer < 1390846655 527298 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: sure, but are you *proud* of it < 1390846676 205560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very consciously < 1390846680 482878 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1390846704 541913 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: wcp: could we not look at this as a problem to consider whether the entire possible state space of a machine is planar? I suspect the answer in that case is no < 1390846721 993533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: isn't this a bit like asking a fish if it's proud of the water. < 1390846779 842809 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well canadians are reasonably proud, and apparently it's a Big Thing in the UK < 1390847108 116861 :Ngevd!~taneb@nas20-237.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1390847122 280449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :canadians are proud because it's #1 on "why canada is better than america" ;) < 1390847166 670997 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :our system is... well... I don't know for Ontarians and other Provinces, but here in Québec it's being profundly, deeply mismanaged. < 1390847198 268510 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're suffering from an urgent emergency where you may die in the next hour, expect to wait. and wait. and wait. and wait... < 1390847633 451 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's the same across the country < 1390847702 905155 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went in last night with a blockage in my esophagus, which is really painful and somewhat dangerous (because I couldn't really swallow anything, and choking was a serious risk if I tried). it took me several hours to get a can of coke < 1390847716 37169 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :which apparently has enzymes which help dissolve it < 1390847731 988841 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that by that point I'd basically coughed the thing up so it just needed a little nudging < 1390848455 739775 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL every image on what-if.xkcd.com has alt-text jokes and half of the citations are jokes too. < 1390848471 110007 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that the pile of all viruses would be about the size of Mount Royal < 1390848473 58294 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi boily < 1390848505 89819 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mont Royal for the win! < 1390848633 678309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: not _every_ image. there's a few mystery left-outs. < 1390848657 163713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: there's a lot of what ifs. and i only just realized. so i haven't looked at them all yet. < 1390849028 833690 :scheurneus!d55d1d1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.93.29.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390849050 410348 :scheurneus!d55d1d1f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.93.29.31 QUIT :Client Quit < 1390849054 782528 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed the alts right away, but citations took me a while < 1390849066 236034 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything was so easy to believe i guess < 1390849202 141955 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem it's actually title-text not alt-text [pushes up glasses] < 1390849273 163590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also did you know, you can put a title attribute on ~any element to give it a tooltip < 1390849284 386451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :data:text/html,
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< 1390849344 78853 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, isn't that what title does < 1390849423 673211 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~any? < 1390849423 828221 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Possible commands: dice, duck, echo, eval, fortune, metar, ping, yi < 1390849433 618533 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mapoles metasepia < 1390849509 517967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: either way, there's no way to display it on many mobile browsers, and there appears to be no mobile version that provides an alternate way to access the text < 1390849544 806981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: isn't what what title does? < 1390849565 981636 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: galaxy note has a stylus you can hover with < 1390849602 797260 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1390849608 810627 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well fuck the fucking fuckers with their fancy fucking hovertablets. meanwhile, i'd like to be able to read title text on my phone. < 1390849765 6497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: did you or will you invent hovertablets? < 1390849825 249397 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1390849948 447434 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i thought you meant title did a thing other than tooltip text < 1390849954 500750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1390849959 72645 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess you meant that it's only meant to work on a few tags < 1390849965 510386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1390849977 876028 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that I only thought of it as a thing for , until I learned otherwise < 1390849985 906867 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1390850039 28966 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought of it as associated with acronym/abbr/etc. < 1390850075 924691 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what's that tag that gives you a dotted underline and a question mark cursor < 1390850078 945411 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1390850177 638189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how document.all?true?false is false, but document.all is a thing < 1390850277 491272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be falsey to avoid getting detected as IE or something? < 1390850305 96240 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1390850477 794485 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1390850500 432248 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just goes to show that evolution causes really dumb adaptations < 1390850506 952101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that work < 1390850535 314056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i didn't know there was a tag to do that. sounds like the kind of thing people would do with a css style. < 1390850585 568387 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm talking about the tag that often has that as a default style < 1390850591 162615 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric : or or something < 1390850676 341931 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does html5 have default styles for semantic tags? < 1390850684 434824 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, do browsers that implement it? < 1390850827 178583 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390851192 847216 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :micro-b has a facility for hovering over things with a cursor < 1390851371 780406 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-71-29.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1390851697 781354 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif < 1390851770 762206 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-71-29.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1390852342 326569 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1390852434 808556 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1390853315 305303 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1390853486 888715 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390854028 207011 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1390854153 759266 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1390854533 182993 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1390854792 652584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1390854962 276489 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390855587 746903 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the ninja twins game (flash version) has some strange glitches. now I have a ninja bouncing between a box and a bouncer (level 17) ... in the same level, the ninjas can walk through one of the sliding blocks. strange. < 1390855749 656247 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's not good... < 1390855802 214730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is there a version that works? :) < 1390855955 777433 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Ouya version seems to correctfully work. I can't assert that level 17 is bugless as I'm not there yet. < 1390856255 112684 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390857175 498145 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :PDF question: where should I put the funpuns entry? in the “Things” chapter, or in shachaf's header? < 1390857191 302004 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i opt out of the pdf < 1390857205 111425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the process work < 1390857243 721317 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd like your quotes to be supressed? if you have a github account and are a cocoonspirator, you can remove everything inconvenient. < 1390857254 783357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you could ask me, and I'll obliterate everything. < 1390857273 173381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good phraseology here < 1390857362 264906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tell me about cococoons < 1390857385 939064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cocoonspirator < 1390857386 361832 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :raccoons? < 1390857388 97622 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cocoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in caterpillar silk < 1390857419 651514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck raccoon < 1390857419 941273 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1390857422 248148 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck racoon < 1390857422 492721 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The raccoon (Procyon lotor), sometimes spelled racoon, also known as the common raccoon, North American raccoon, northern raccoon and colloquially as coon, is a medium-sized mammal native to North America. < 1390857431 962604 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pff. < 1390857459 44666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck coon < 1390857459 343816 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coon definition: raccoon. < 1390857628 933428 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bike < 1390857629 230282 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike definition: '''chiefly Scottish''' a nest of wild bees, wasps, or hornets. < 1390857633 151939 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390857644 469768 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well. at least you are chiefly Scottish and wild. < 1390857660 174809 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-22787.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1390857786 750490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm ok with that. < 1390857800 475367 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck firefly < 1390857800 785707 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefly definition: any of various winged nocturnal beetles (especially family Lampyridae) that produce a bright soft intermittent light by oxidation of luciferin especially for courtship purposes. < 1390857836 311884 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like hymenopterans. < 1390857967 704739 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck bouilli < 1390857967 968061 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1390857986 482173 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck boiled < 1390857986 726960 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boiling is the rapid vaporization of a liquid, which occurs when a liquid is heated to its boiling point, the temperature at which the vapor pressure of the liquid is equal to the pressure exerted on the liquid by the surrounding environmental pressure. < 1390858001 614927 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'A racoonspirator is a collaborator wrapped in fur' >wisdom/racoonspirator < 1390858005 631114 :HackEgo!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1390858060 472027 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does this mean that boily is 'hot'? < 1390858112 876657 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a sexy shoeless god of war :D < 1390858319 469970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: HOBBIT CHICKEN < 1390858326 555104 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390858542 4719 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: p. sure it should be "raccoonspirator" < 1390858553 104570 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feel free to `mv it < 1390858583 523133 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia mentioned both spellings, and that one was more similar to cocoon < 1390858720 922249 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to a Finnish online thesaurus, “to manipulate” is synonymous with “butterscotch” and “to evade”. http://www.synonyymit.fi/manipuloida http://translate.google.com/#auto/en/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.synonyymit.fi%2Fmanipuloida < 1390859564 174664 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butterscotch is very manipulative < 1390859579 315846 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1390859999 178239 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to wiktionary the latin for clitoris also means gridiron < 1390860033 726021 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is even funnier given that the latin for clitoris is so obscene that it appears like once in the entire body of surviving literature < 1390860300 988013 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390860338 131486 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1390860354 333811 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are they sure grid irons weren't meant? =P < 1390860396 725944 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it not show up in any of the graffiti from pompeii? < 1390860398 866633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not http://www.pompeiana.org/resources/ancient/graffiti%20from%20pompeii.htm < 1390861932 367366 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.130.94 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_profanity#Land.C4.ABca:_the_clitoris < 1390862146 553089 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i think it does, but that's not really 'literature' < 1390862534 302479 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more like, ancient tweets < 1390862535 716718 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.181 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1390862663 339024 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390862737 476741 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Graffiti used to be so much better in terms of text < 1390862758 840611 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men’s behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!" < 1390862799 381412 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I screwed the barmaid" < 1390863111 90471 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lol penis" < 1390863316 914059 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's funny how they used graffiti as a sort of craigslist too < 1390863360 295611 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that the actual graffiti was considered anything as close to that in terms of poetic-ness < 1390863386 693189 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo latin's density means that we tend to translate it quite colourfully, lacking distinction < 1390863395 91982 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Chie, I hope your hemorrhoids rub together so much that they hurt worse than when they every have before!" < 1390863411 414709 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's hard to translate it concisely < 1390863433 33595 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apollinaris, the doctor of the emperor Titus, defecated well here " < 1390863659 816723 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-72-74.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390864012 730401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, exaactly like my last craigslist ad < 1390864628 832136 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390864657 178493 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: someone suggested that "relevant" could mean f(0) = 0 < 1390864662 766233 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1390864669 779410 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390864713 597268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ? < 1390864850 846924 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "relevant function", to go with "linear" and "affine" < 1390865337 630709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily the windows version has the same glitches as the flash version, but level 17 is solvable. < 1390865337 926279 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1390865418 199205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok < 1390865437 839440 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there another name for functions f such that f(0) = 0 < 1390865559 671589 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( zero-preserving ) < 1390865564 902677 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really :) < 1390865592 280257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, zero-preserving was my thought too < 1390865606 787401 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"original" < 1390865778 824014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft. meaning, the graph contains the origin?! < 1390866473 733989 :oklopol_!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866480 276986 :v^!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:55a1:4e69:8f3a:ad23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866504 867774 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866525 553601 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866526 809448 :^v!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866527 288626 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866527 444529 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-185-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866527 599939 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866527 754862 :namaskar!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1390866529 334928 :namaskar_!~namaskar@host86-178-188-154.range86-178.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866625 933810 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866833 626926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1390866966 191947 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes