< 1391300426 397475 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7dd7:a5ca:1b7d:293 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391300606 708272 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy JOIN :#esoteric < 1391300694 354542 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, is there someone that helps me with a reading? < 1391301313 258016 :seba29!~seba29@r186-51-245-216.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy PART :#esoteric < 1391301685 276375 :atriq!5c10282d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.16.40.45 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391301705 563650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1391302276 261538 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391302815 527601 :^v!~NotPing@2601:4:4500:887:7dd7:a5ca:1b7d:293 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391303055 168957 :prooftechnique!~Also@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT : < 1391306405 292963 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: we should change the topic shouldn't we < 1391306405 523446 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'll just detour that... which would become fnord which would usually be otherwise impossible < 1391307493 835106 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I own a Vorapede. < 1391307508 804844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not worth very much despite being a mythic rare < 1391307525 72707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...foot eater? < 1391307567 422362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks a bit big to be a foot eater < 1391307603 845785 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it would rather eat a whole person than a foot < 1391307615 372610 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=262850 < 1391307663 452232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it eats with its feet < 1391307690 908147 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically looks like a giant snail right < 1391307732 689700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, considering playing Draft at FNMs < 1391307785 573700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 5 for a 5/4 vigilance trample that becomes a 6/5 vigilance trample is not that bad, is it? < 1391307801 666486 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "worth" as in price < 1391307810 597317 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: no, but according to comments in Gatherer, there are other cards that outshine it < 1391307883 153936 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently all Planeswalkers are mythic rares, which makes me sad < 1391307999 507996 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. those other cards are too good < 1391308089 251686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kalonian Hydra is also too good) < 1391308337 815913 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's blatantly too good... 3.5 stars why? < 1391309083 277905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand that basic lands are colorless, but... is there any good flavor reason for that? < 1391309367 639029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a card whose effect is "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" < 1391309376 818172 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've seen Drive, as i remember/away < 1391309393 782441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1391309415 410928 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that Bike pressing ↑ before typing /away < 1391309460 303970 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what that was < 1391309550 476114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: your job is to find a card that provides some sort of negative effect to your opponent for putting jams on their creatres < 1391309566 424369 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean, i was recommending movies, but not here < 1391309574 4775 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though Drive is a good movie. just, public announcement < 1391309642 21334 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should use Drive. i have all this storage space now < 1391309668 783188 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is Anastasia (1956 film) a good movie < 1391309690 983931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't seen it, don't know < 1391309710 501410 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1391309723 914497 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the answer is yes < 1391310707 498288 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing I think people dislike Kindle for over Nooks etc. is the DRM policies < 1391310774 318565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1391310775 202479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"However if you use the Send to Kindle function to put your mobi books in the Amazon Cloud then DL to the iPad from the Cloud they will easily sync highlights, bookmarks, notes, etc. with the same mobi book on other Kindles and Kindle apps. " < 1391311115 874915 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already bought it < 1391311179 615647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Send to Kindle sounds really fun, and I remember regretting that the Nook didn't have it when I got the Nook < 1391311551 842219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391313744 149407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Nook is worse DRMed in a way that's more important to me: Apparently it's tricky to retrieve notes and hilights < 1391313757 8486 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not impossible (hopefully) < 1391314356 979365 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an exploit for that Linux x32 bug we were discussing: < 1391314357 394644 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/DH3Lbg54 < 1391314382 442291 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which bug < 1391314470 797197 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Features and smirk a few times" -_- < 1391314476 71934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man i miss my international keyboard < 1391314526 438259 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :id instead of whoami, huh. is that the usual nowadays < 1391314534 328371 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: -_- < 1391314561 536295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1391314565 43161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu deserves a lot of credit for some of the security stuff they've done < 1391314572 939844 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the quote < 1391314576 375438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1391314594 362085 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's just kind of bullyingly mean, which th ere is a better adjective for i'm sure but i can't think of it < 1391315162 500324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :h4xorz < 1391315168 471769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: u hax? < 1391315168 651677 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and call it done < 1391316032 743671 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1391316640 961264 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.179.170.82 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1391316753 440580 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common is it to checkmate with a castling move? < 1391316889 77560 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: p. uncommon hth < 1391317118 336934 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't expect it to be common, but how common is it anyways? And how common just to give check with a castling move even if it isn't checkmate? < 1391317141 959743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how common is it for the other player to resign immediately after one player castles? < 1391317567 360857 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391317589 836698 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391317730 751733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391318737 776031 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wizards of the Coast didn't like the Elo system and replaced it with the "Planeswalker Points" system, which is a terrible system. < 1391318761 70230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in my opinion) < 1391318839 709785 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why all the castling questions < 1391318856 971904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i thought you were being objective. < 1391318926 424758 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chester came to school and said, / "Durn, I growed another head." / Teacher said, "It's time you knowed / The word is 'grew' instead of 'growed'" < 1391318970 353235 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I once read about castling to put opponent in check, and even once did so myself, but haven't seen a castling move where it makes opponent checkmated, but am curious to know how common such things are. I did see once a game involving misinterpretations of older rules where castling with a promoted pawn is a checkmating move. < 1391319067 690131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :castle only as a sorcery < 1391319096 509981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :promoting a pawn to rook and then castling with it? < 1391319236 506619 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION bew to shachaf < 1391319349 138467 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391319381 750994 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391319417 523000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes < 1391319439 206120 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you could only castle if the rook and king had never moved before? < 1391319591 533775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That is correct. < 1391319653 764283 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391320001 977205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :♖ < 1391320029 882292 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how could you do it with a promoted pawn < 1391320041 287609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't < 1391320087 628526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An exception is seen in the British Museum's collection of the medieval Lewis chess pieces in which the rooks appear as stern warders or wild-eyed Berzerker warriors." < 1391320113 610587 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't actually allowed, but due to older rules some people thought it would be allowed; king goes to King's 3 and rook goes to King's 2, and notation O-O-O-O-O-O. < 1391320268 277729 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391321264 100529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird that the maglev speed record is only 6.2 km/hr more than the conventional rail speed record < 1391321324 103104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ-ꙮ < 1391321381 791910 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there haven't been many maglev trains < 1391321396 990189 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what if I want to castle as an interrupt? < 1391321404 87980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: indeed < 1391321427 619057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think interrupts are more flavorful... I mean, how odd is it that if I cast A, and opponent casts B in response, B takes less time than A? < 1391321570 73509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and conventional rail technology has more than 200 years of refinement and mass worldwide deployment < 1391321736 630146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it without the interrupts though < 1391321758 69289 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care so much about "flavorful" < 1391321796 727835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: a wizard did it < 1391321890 891860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In a single player campaign) now have a 9/8 with trample < 1391321896 852842 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is green generally this ridiculous? < 1391322630 642781 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :9/8 is a nice time signature. < 1391322646 683530 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ꙮꙮh < 1391325036 711074 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391325360 767018 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"From now on I call From the Vault: 20 FtV: Jace. That's the reason most people are buying it. Its a foil Jace that comes with an extra 19 cards. :)" < 1391325625 380885 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, green lurves crazy-big creatures like that. < 1391325634 493891 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's expecially doable in a more casual game. < 1391325991 706436 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391327406 732824 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391330373 488384 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391332260 208040 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1391333597 169633 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Yes, eval() is used here, leaving you at mortal risk of XSS-attacking yourself.)" < 1391333689 159945 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the disappointing part of From the Vault: 20 is how it has 5 cards that generate mana. why couldn't they put more diversity in? < 1391334190 42652 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who even rates this higher than 0.5? This card makes Rod of Ruin look good." < 1391334197 121705 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Discussion.aspx?multiverseid=198395 < 1391334471 658970 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you have to spend 3 mana to make 1 dammage? < 1391334479 171262 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1391334727 135691 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: worse... 2 equip < 1391334732 314683 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-62-215.xdsl.xnet.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391334741 652299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 5 total, although possibly spread over two turns < 1391334772 834794 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, magic the gathering? < 1391334778 135198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes < 1391334786 706257 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1391334813 486760 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are really strange cards < 1391334817 977100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1391334850 731493 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember one that gives you an advantage as long as you do not speak with your normal voice < 1391335041 252238 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, what < 1391335131 192277 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1391336110 518067 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably Unglued or Unhinged < 1391336115 597047 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really old < 1391336129 433543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unglued+Unhinged are not tournament legal, they're not considered real cards < 1391336669 316113 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I always wondered what would happen if I changed the VGA buffer without first switching to graphic mode < 1391336672 935099 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I just found out < 1391336679 682169 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO DREW ALL OVER MY MS DOS < 1391336810 151093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391336871 686385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have bet (some, but not very much) money on nothing interesting in particular happening, for writing to 0xa0000..affff while in a text mode. (Or was this in DOSBox or something?) < 1391336884 310296 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dosbox < 1391336931 331963 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can be bothered, you could try it out in qemu or bochs or something real. < 1391336939 929717 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot < 1391336943 592146 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is sunday! < 1391336978 288877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. Well, I wouldn't take it as conclusive proof as to what would happen on a real computer. You know, in case your life depended on it or anything. < 1391337102 188029 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391337120 279696 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the case will ever pop up < 1391337654 399541 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337654 689324 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337655 108724 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391337812 669890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/delegated-strings so many TLDs < 1391337846 834499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :too distracted by "Valuetainment" to read the rest < 1391337876 921158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if .cheap addresses are cheap. < 1391337902 980925 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :.monash? why did a university buy a gtld < 1391337971 583375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess for BRAND PURPOSES. < 1391338017 549768 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you have to use all those tuition fees for something. < 1391338032 851515 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.econ/IIjUodGrHXw/uWHIxu2-LqMJ < 1391338035 657940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you pay employees too well, they'll get all uppity. < 1391338062 259195 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1391338078 731035 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we should start the #esoteric foundation llc just to get .jam made < 1391338142 722216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man, .wang < 1391338178 568137 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1391338191 82457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<= Netsplit between *.net and *.split. Users quit: nisstyre, Frooxius, realzies < 1391338240 402606 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The text on screen gets stored in memory too < 1391338248 120875 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you hit the right addresses, you will override that < 1391338258 717185 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two bytes per character < 1391338270 764664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: Yes, but it's not in a0000..affff. < 1391338276 44250 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: It's in b8000..bffff. < 1391338290 126421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And b0000..b7fff is the monochrome video buffer place.) < 1391338322 627677 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's always in b8k or if it depends on which textmode you're in < 1391338346 144559 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: For the record, Bond University has applied for .bond and La Trobe University has applied for .latrobe, in addition to .monash. Must be some kind of an Australian thing. < 1391338356 981706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.fizzie < 1391338359 558706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sunstroke, i bet < 1391338371 168060 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :james.bond < 1391338847 238576 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nice thing about the graphic mode is that no matter if you fuck up < 1391338851 60583 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will look amazing < 1391338884 992546 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think that's how it works < 1391338892 56293 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19940612/DOS.png < 1391338896 209313 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOESN'T IT? < 1391338900 812320 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's full of staaaars < 1391338916 863157 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just looking at it I am filled with wonderment < 1391338933 151023 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh < 1391339225 565611 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure some little atari dude could have an epic adventure in there! < 1391339238 149314 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's gonna find an amazing treasure that looks like a square < 1391339245 680703 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And battle enemies that also look like squares < 1391339640 281127 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it's full of stars! < 1391339875 206129 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have to use your < 1391339879 753046 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaSd2d5rwPE < 1391340126 368861 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah < 1391340131 499929 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I finally made my gay square < 1391340146 331350 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the code looks like shit < 1391340407 582129 :SeeNoEvil!~chatzilla@ip-118-90-62-215.xdsl.xnet.co.nz PART :#esoteric < 1391341701 559732 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make a tunnel now < 1391341802 436059 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tunnel? < 1391342003 154215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ꙮ="multiocular! " in cycle ꙮ < 1391342004 213549 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocular! multiocula... < 1391342022 64956 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat < 1391342035 310500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :prꙮblem? < 1391342079 679365 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cꙮnspiracy < 1391342092 999203 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they're watching you) < 1391342106 596526 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That character does not actually display < 1391342115 400812 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in my putty either < 1391342121 684068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor here < 1391342128 257143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i copied it from the logs < 1391342132 486454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can cut&paste it to firefox, for example. < 1391342178 341930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if you can't see it, you *know* that THEY are watching. < 1391342203 484967 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocular_O < 1391342205 707185 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1391342233 707242 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? multiocular o < 1391342234 440836 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiocular o? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391342247 908570 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ꙮ < 1391342248 551508 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second, are there supposed to be 13 or 16 eyes? < 1391342248 731256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ꙮ? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391342405 423721 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it looks fine for me < 1391342445 335596 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's lots of eyes, not sure if the exact number of eyes is significant < 1391342499 405676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION learns that there are also binocular o, double monocular o, and monocular o < 1391342604 74407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall from previous discussion that the unicode sample has a different number of eyes from the original manuscript ones. < 1391342677 412736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the manuscript linked from wikipedia uses 16, but 13 is scary enough to me :) < 1391342685 407215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/a66e/index.htm has 7 while wikipedia has 10 < 1391342694 796753 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my font has 8 < 1391342706 915228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehm, 7 < 1391342714 16453 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 10 at wikipedia and 7 at fileformat < 1391342733 993803 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be no fun writing < 1391342749 361891 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have 7 on irc < 1391342760 357894 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :My font has 7 too < 1391342761 265600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 and 10 Ouch :) < 1391342771 929861 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: pretty sure wikipedia's is a picture. < 1391342798 555022 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the important thing is that it's more than two < 1391342800 117448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :2*6+1 ... yeah, that was embarassingly foolish. < 1391342800 393865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well although it contains a character too. < 1391342871 855861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Unicode specifies what a codepoint should render as < 1391343129 943260 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UA640.pdf has 7 too < 1391343180 247584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 9 on IRC < 1391343190 75936 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :But font size also depends on DPI < 1391343296 253369 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391343335 972428 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: http://i.imgur.com/Nlj97.png Do this, in x86 16-bit ASM < 1391343362 507144 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I guess not, based on the proposal for adding those characters: https://web.archive.org/web/20131224125913/http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n3194.pdf < 1391343430 519506 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull : Not quite there yet! < 1391343439 736633 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I have a friend who's an assembly expert < 1391343442 706330 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(their font uses 7; the manuscript scan uses 10, it's the same that wikipedia links to) < 1391343444 783112 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm getting some tips from him < 1391343481 501352 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: See if your friend can do it :D < 1391343485 462665 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=3397 < this site has some great examples, by the way < 1391343490 646121 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull : Dunno < 1391343505 459196 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he did a port of Bubble Bobble for the Amstrad CPC < 1391343508 842652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pouet is nice < 1391343581 683965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how the -ocular o's are essentially pictographic < 1391343614 31406 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"replace 'o' with this character if the word is derived from the stem meaning 'eye'" < 1391343727 24963 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. can I set dosbox options on the command line without writing a .conf file ... < 1391344123 64339 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qs62r/i_just_got_banned_from_my_favorite_restaurant_for/ meanwhile in /r/bitcoin < 1391344316 539302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1391344355 108652 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ø: o is forbidden < 1391344359 896218 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"submitted 2 months ago" "meanwhile" (great story, anyhow) < 1391344441 422099 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: it's something different, but give http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/magnet.tgz a try :) < 1391344531 980148 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: That's rather cool < 1391344914 299191 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. It's a bit more than 10 years old. I really should've dated those things. < 1391345237 642073 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I see that I've commented the fpu code. (The comments show the contents of the FPU stack. Tracking that can be quite confusing.) < 1391346172 788665 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391347297 348674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:21 .. 15:41 < 1391347310 120427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. < 1391347741 888095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel < 1391347749 562373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347867 516780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, but I won't need that one after 15:41 EET, so it's reasonably likely to still be in the input backscroll. < 1391347951 551567 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote 15:21 .. 15:41 I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347953 422223 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1165) 15:21 .. 15:41 I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391347983 215310 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391348123 214636 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391348235 834204 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391348646 164134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391349014 677779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1391349542 353326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! `addquote must be for long term notes. < 1391349909 789196 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quoe < 1391349910 701060 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: quoe: not found < 1391349911 847290 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391349912 397693 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) I used computational linguistics to kill her. < 1391350234 444559 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 42 < 1391350235 189218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :42) If I ever made a game where you jabbed bears ... I'd call it jabbear. < 1391350520 152445 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 0x2a < 1391350521 221893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391350567 280893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391350567 972172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :628) the point of a university is research and training new researchers. the point of the world is to enable this. < 1391351043 956909 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like 628 < 1391351078 586604 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1391351268 49858 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1391351268 771171 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :456) Pythagoras was running away and he reached a field of beans, but he didn't want to step on them so he let those guys chasing him to kill him instead. < 1391351367 378107 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh bother < 1391351377 4183 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a clear screen function and now some shapes are disappearing! < 1391351428 155736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spots FreeFull making an account at the Complexity Zoo < 1391351474 986337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone asked wtf was up if you tried to click random page in that < 1391351492 451243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: that's what a wiki turns out like if no one bothers to delete spam _ever_. < 1391351550 598865 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except on the publically facing pages, presumably. < 1391351581 808040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :behold https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/index.php?title=Special:AllPages&from=1000.000000Ree_Online_Facebook_Of_Sex_In_Australia_New_Zealand&to=Events_In_Cape_Town_Reviews_Tips < 1391351604 41412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ^ hth < 1391351663 498894 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I made an account because I wanted to get rid of the spam, but I'm not sure hwo < 1391351666 729492 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how* < 1391351677 210384 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just press the "random article" button and get spam < 1391351702 959121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: well given they're all spam-titled articles, you really need admin powers to delete properly. < 1391351736 962083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could blank them, but that doesn't really help with random article < 1391351804 223001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the spam is too old to show up in recent changes. < 1391351841 198140 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :chessbase makes me so angry sometimes. http://en.chessbase.com/post/a-new-challenging-chess-variant - who is this guy and why does chessbase give him a platform for his so-called "research"? < 1391351842 872814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact the reason i noticed you was because you're one of the few things happening in the last month. < 1391352045 626313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: given the way the wiki is structured, a script to delete all orphan pages might work... < 1391352174 363761 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1391352194 108878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: oh i hit an actual non-spam page on that wiki. i think i may have invented a variant of your brainfuck derivative/self-made game < 1391352212 880575 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm < 1391352224 335278 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get admin rights and just delete the spam pages as you hit them? < 1391352226 986881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing? visiting "random pages"? < 1391352231 236042 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah < 1391352248 328016 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Esolang, you hit random page, score 1 negative point for each BF derivative, stop when you reach a language you made yourself < 1391352249 340698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: i'm not even registered there, so i doubt they'd trust me. < 1391352262 807421 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I've found that the wiki works fine if you use the dedicated index pages) < 1391352284 912763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the complexity zoo one) < 1391352307 396594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very low-volume wiki otherwise, so presumably there's no admin with actual time for spam maintenance. < 1391352310 788441 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :callforjudgement: how close do I have to get to -\infty before I'm allowed to stop? < 1391352334 535381 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you have trouble stopping, you go create some more non-BF-deriv esolangs < 1391352414 575907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait deleting orphans won't work, the real page i hit was one. < 1391352429 469947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/STCON < 1391352540 982594 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the fact STCON is in LOGSPACE is the essence of a famous complexity theorem. < 1391352654 753292 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391352658 744860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems most of the spam was added last spring < 1391352918 704994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391352919 511840 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't one remove the spam pages based on some heuristic? Most of them (from a small random sample, anyway) seem to contain several long paragraphs and no wiki markup < 1391353223 838641 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another possibility is to manually mark all non-spam pages < 1391353225 473426 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then delete the rest < 1391353295 503473 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... https://complexityzoo.uwaterloo.ca/Strategies_To_Use_SEO ... < 1391353383 203913 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391354121 964005 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1391354385 511353 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391354412 722361 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391354494 727745 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391354513 95487 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391355153 168400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, "score 1 negative point for each BF derivative, stop when you reach a language you made yourself" < 1391355156 171938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1391355163 648557 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you get positive score for anything? < 1391356263 748472 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391356321 185313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've landed on an equal amount of brainfuck derivatives and brainfuck implementations thus far < 1391356577 848578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does brainfuck count as a brainfuck derivative for the purposes of this game < 1391356669 766685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what if you made a bf derivate? do you stop? do you score -1? both? < 1391356698 589965 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be best to make the whole wiki full of bf derivates to get better scores? < 1391356764 105091 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are more likely to stop while others are more likely to get -1 < 1391356939 285687 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure being a BF derivative should have precedence < 1391357002 966154 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My score: -7 or -8 depending on whether brainfuck counts < 1391357213 219173 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1391357315 367610 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391357354 596104 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the wiki has some pretty weird 'languages' < 1391357366 900224 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as http://esolangs.org/wiki/Yo < 1391357702 958119 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do find German (esolang) pretty stupid < 1391359900 282068 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: brainfuck does not count. it has seniority. < 1391359959 528718 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the game should be "-1 for every language that has not a single creative idea in it" just to be sure < 1391359971 545471 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1391359985 368367 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391359991 395312 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because some brinfuck "derivatives" are awesome, while some non-bf-derivs are the worst < 1391360077 875270 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, German < 1391360374 414174 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :machine code derivative? yeah that's pretty low < 1391360394 23391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the joke isn't even funny! < 1391360403 773832 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bier is spelled wrong < 1391360547 367184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. 'cat' is a compiler for the 'Cat' language, in the spirit of 'German'. < 1391360737 256912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :some ninja twins levels are annoying ... too many hidden items < 1391361683 928334 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur < 1391364705 932365 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364872 742544 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1391364978 967767 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364981 862942 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391364999 99493 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@178-147-83-249.mobile.cosmote.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1391365181 616645 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391365510 775135 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391365526 716998 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391365789 903915 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 NICK :tertu < 1391366558 700943 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1391366575 427018 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391366985 359842 :a_ergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391367257 702186 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a PART :#esoteric < 1391367268 659377 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1391367268 960173 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391367327 550461 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a JOIN :#esoteric < 1391367447 206320 :qlkzy!qlkzy@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:4a4a PART :#esoteric < 1391369300 392647 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391369703 37239 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does the HackEgo BFJoust hill score? < 1391369875 198323 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it's explained on gregor's bfjoust hill page < 1391369912 68194 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the short answer is "it's kind of stupid" < 1391369917 310319 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1391369934 703874 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the long answer is "i implemented a better scoring system, and Gregor never incorporated it" < 1391369948 920150 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does yours work? < 1391370078 427850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just before i got up i imagined that "coop" was "copoop" < 1391370166 126471 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :copooperation < 1391370289 658478 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :copoop= 10% of everything? < 1391370415 177760 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391370434 371677 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370477 666876 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391370509 938123 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370618 462926 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.coingen.io/ finally < 1391370702 396009 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i invest in Bikeoin yet < 1391370716 531380 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could create bikeoin < 1391370762 217236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the ultimate invest"ment < 1391370775 30542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://coingen.io/status.html < 1391370781 523632 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391370797 256082 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391370821 370898 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i invest in fraudcoin? or maybe hackernewscoin? < 1391370831 517269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll invest in _this_site_is_a_scam_dont_send_your_bitcoins_to_coingen_ < 1391370848 764486 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :fraudcoin sounds legit < 1391370851 270968 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm betting on unusablecoin < 1391370855 713891 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :take it from the resident expert < 1391370896 754324 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tuplipcoin"? < 1391370908 919754 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably a misspelling of "tulip"? < 1391370912 390336 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :referring to tulip mania < 1391370917 595422 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured that might be it < 1391370924 653282 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :still seems silly to typo your coin name! < 1391370937 478130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i could branch out to "fourchan" or "adolfhitler" < 1391370962 306007 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :obamacoin brings change < 1391370993 534507 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have too much hair < 1391371001 61258 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are remedies to that < 1391371003 713954 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard < 1391371033 177218 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :last time i removed my hair i got a sunburn < 1391371036 454518 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta be careful < 1391371363 310747 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should remove your hair and move to Finland. < 1391371403 510391 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why finland < 1391371410 554495 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There’s no sun here. < 1391371424 591537 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. sure it was sunny last time i was there < 1391371433 873949 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ~30° in helsinki < 1391371513 321457 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391372026 784722 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391372827 522858 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391373588 925394 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can attest to there being no sun visible in the sky here at this moment. < 1391373622 647109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, there won't be any sun here from 7:30 PM on the 20th of February! < 1391373850 424113 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391374154 854845 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391374937 199929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375308 30290 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375344 430158 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391375981 730245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp posted about his cuckoo project http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/1wtn6d/cuckoo_cycle_a_memoryhard_proofofwork_system/ < 1391376371 877486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah i hate that pdfs on github won't open in the browser < 1391376384 432304 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must pick the raw version < 1391376392 814711 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _did_ pick the raw version. < 1391376395 293767 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i must figure out how to publish them on github pages < 1391376422 227852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it insists on opening it outside, which means the awful metro interface. < 1391376426 120321 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i never unsdersood why some pdfs are downloaded and other are shown in browser < 1391376449 446057 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, i'm rewriting the paper as we speak < 1391376462 199409 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :expect a new version in 5 mins < 1391376629 811481 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh, i never unsdersood why some pdfs are downloaded and other are shown in browser < 1391376639 349270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing the 'raw' feature sends the file as application/octet-stream < 1391376642 261356 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox sometimes opens text files as a download < 1391376696 502481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that would do it i guess :( < 1391376791 296986 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is also Content-disposition: attachment < 1391376832 123629 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I've written a function that computes the fibonacci sequence using only identifiers defined in the lens library < 1391376837 254317 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, oerjan, new version pushed < 1391376842 803782 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: :D < 1391376847 975085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: including operators? < 1391376860 818739 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391376872 617139 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, including operators < 1391376895 546186 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb++ < 1391376975 126195 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Getting rid of (.) was easy. Getting rid of (,) was less so < 1391377244 53155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored < 1391377244 270097 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped < 1391377244 270249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) < 1391377244 270338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform < 1391377244 270428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391377245 84264 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:66: < 1391377245 264501 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1391377255 41552 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1391377291 607561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1391377308 224807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> view curried (view simple) (sumOf ignored (&)) (productOf ignored (&)) ^.. over mapped (iterated ((over mapped (view flipped (mapped %~) (sumOf both ^. curried)) (over mapped (mapped %~) (view simple ^. curried))) ^. flipped & over mapped (perform (acts&mapped%~acts)) & review curried)) _1 < 1391377309 898472 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,987,1597,2584,4181,6765,10946,... < 1391377385 777698 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1391377525 516232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1391377600 646846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION increase paste_detect_time to 10msecs < 1391377602 726609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1391377889 822321 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So lenticular < 1391377950 334676 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does paste_detect_time mean? < 1391377980 561231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can cause it to display the text by adding "view-source:" at the beginning of the URL. < 1391378016 470655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually pretty simple < 1391378034 594569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how long irssi waits after a line before deciding it's not part of a larger paste < 1391378047 606412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Essentially "iterate (\(a,b) -> (b, a+b)) (0,1)" < 1391378124 67427 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only terminal emulators and shell applications would support bracketed-paste... < 1391378233 759047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t swapped < 1391378234 498555 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Functor f, Profunctor p1, Swapped p) => p1 (p b a) (f (p d c)) -> p1 (p a b) (f (p c d)) < 1391378238 543422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, weechat supports bracketed-paste if one enables an option < 1391378266 952926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, I forgot about swapped < 1391378281 458905 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it sounded like something you might have used < 1391378315 350416 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What does it do with such a decision? < 1391378337 91465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: What does bracketed-paste mean? < 1391378358 113070 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a terminal mode where pastes are prefixed and suffixed by escape sequences < 1391378399 481529 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would be useful if it was actually a thing, since it'd mean IRC clients and text editors wouldn't have to guess based on timing and heuristics if something was pasted or typed < 1391378424 579578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: if it detects it's a paste, it will (1) warn you if it's many lines. (2) join wrapping lines if it looks like it has been copied from the irssi window. < 1391378446 503409 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xfree86.org/current/ctlseqs.html#Bracketed%20Paste%20Mode < 1391378455 177005 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What escape sequences? Is it the START OF TEXT and END OF TEXT control characters? < 1391378458 745244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, (2) failed for me above because it didn't detect it as a paste, which is why i increased it. < 1391378468 508681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's CSI-prefixed sequences < 1391378496 271746 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. either ESC [ 200 ~ or \x9B 200 ~ depending on whether 7-bit or 8-bit CSI is set < 1391378519 332029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1391378537 248997 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey folks < 1391378546 186258 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I try to declare some variable in x86 < 1391378547 323510 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1391378548 133604 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :square2 dw 0x0064, 0x0064, 0x0016 < 1391378555 144177 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes my program fuck up < 1391378558 117139 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this < 1391378676 853095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: What assembler and what program? < 1391378735 976424 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FASM < 1391378739 642202 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the program is... < 1391378752 306239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know how to program in FASM. < 1391378763 100742 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/XSMwb0aA < 1391378779 410248 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as I put that declaration, bam < 1391378786 689173 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It assembles fine, but it does not work < 1391378808 598388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you crossing a segment boundary? < 1391378821 38338 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I'm aware < 1391378832 475194 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works without the declaration, and does not with it < 1391378846 172571 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the assembler would put it in another segment < 1391378849 893561 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus I don't even call it < 1391378869 267283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Move it to the end of the program. < 1391378892 934202 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, it works < 1391378894 175612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it try to execute them as instructions < 1391378899 881230 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks! < 1391378945 598831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program has to start at 0x0100 which is also beginning of the file, and the part before that is a PSP (at least, in DOS this is how it works). < 1391378973 888747 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man I don't want a playstation in my program < 1391379012 861301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: does anybody use 8-bit CSI? < 1391379054 434512 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think several terminal emulators support it < 1391379059 767626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I think Linux accepts it? < 1391379073 53242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but do any common programs send such sequences, I mean < 1391379080 905350 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any. < 1391379091 957836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't that just depend on your terminfo entry? < 1391379096 708316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For many programs, anyway.) < 1391379127 275819 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in a UTF-8 terminal do you actually send \xC2 \x9B ? < 1391379168 489461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That I don't know; I don't use the UTF-8 terminal mode. < 1391379176 433362 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a shell application has to send an escape sequence to tell the terminal to change to 8-bit CSI, or something < 1391379178 88839 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1391379194 414816 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :One benefit of using the 8-bit CSI would be to disambiguate it from < 1391379197 850190 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :in e.g. vim < 1391379208 317310 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :relying on timing sucks. < 1391379209 711456 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ECMA-48 codes are defined in terms of codepoints and not bytes for a Unicode terminal < 1391379211 825489 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the terminal emulator built-in to Linux automatically allows 8-bit CSI though < 1391379318 433017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you may have assembler directives like .text and .data that let you switch between code and data sections, and the assembler/linker will arrange for each of code and data to be contiguous in memory < 1391379334 936746 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that way you can declare your variables near where they will be used, rather than at the end of the file < 1391379404 80681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, http://www.vt100.net/docs/vt510-rm/S8C1T was the escape sequence I meant < 1391379417 323789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also important because memory for storing code isn't writeable on some platforms (like microcontrollers, or any OS enforcing that as a security measure) < 1391379498 709756 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: That's for terminal-to-host talk, though. I don't think you need to do that if it's the host sending 8-bit C1 control characters. < 1391379512 691698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: (Just if you want the terminal to use them too.) < 1391379584 646081 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's probably true < 1391379603 823406 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bracketed-paste case mentioned earlier would be terminal-to-host though < 1391379636 445132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. (I wasn't reading at that point.) < 1391379668 115562 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are interest rates calculated in case of leap years? < 1391379670 989167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a thing that was using the 8-bit CSI that I came across the other year, but I've entirely forgotten what it was about. < 1391380382 882739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i very vaguely thought all months are treated as 30 days for the purpose < 1391380404 944783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there's a large number of different, incompatible conventions. < 1391380412 631719 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. < 1391380441 578406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 30/360 thing certainly is a thing that happens in some financial contexts, though. < 1391380453 30419 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31/1655773_636614729738716_1020538943_o.jpg < 1391380474 352641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the way it should be done is using a tropical year rather than a calendar year, and using signs instead of months. You would then adjust these results into actual business days based on the timezone. < 1391380495 828070 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :astrological signs? < 1391380510 828876 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Such a thing is still out if 30/360 but not based on the calendar) < 1391380518 126859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yes. One sign = 30 degrees < 1391380528 933066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: very secure password < 1391380554 750212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It has lowercase letters, uppercase letters, digits AND a special character. < 1391380565 675135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You couldn't ask for more. < 1391380857 757545 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddamn < 1391380866 943059 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My worst enemy in assembly is bits of code I left around < 1391380872 484131 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And forgot to delete < 1391380896 365900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zombie code < 1391380957 242351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghost code < 1391381031 133287 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GH-GH-GH-GH-GHOST??? < 1391381613 304264 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391381827 994546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there some programs to trace the program to figure out which codes won't ever be used? < 1391382043 270032 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :won't ever? isn't that a statically determinable property < 1391382070 194448 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the programming language it might be, I think. < 1391382080 414194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And depending on the program; sometimes it might not be) < 1391382130 182253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: like most things, it sometimes requires solving the halting problem. < 1391382146 181685 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I meant, for the second thing. < 1391382159 418482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i say < 1391382177 352540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compilers certainly do dead code elimination; I'm sure there are some standalone analysis tools too. Though the "bits of code left around" problem probably involves code that actually does get executed, just shouldn't. < 1391382219 776449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if the program is already compiled, it is different, anyways. < 1391382597 790970 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391383047 496884 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like orthogonal instruction sets? < 1391383554 2968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it is good idea to have instead of an immediate addressing mode, to use PC post-increment; and instead of a jump instruction just have a move to PC instruction. < 1391383623 880270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does any CPU instruction set actually have PHI instructions, or is that only used in compilers? < 1391384293 725111 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1391384392 610379 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384436 856119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have an idea about how to implement a hardware PHI instruction: Make branch instructions to write the address of what would be next instruction as if it didn't branch to one register, and the actual next instruction address (regardless if it branch or not) to another register, and then the PHI instruction is a conditional move where the condition is both of these two mentioned registers have the same value. < 1391384534 671144 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1391384698 876859 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384735 243948 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies < 1391384868 280621 :namaskar!~namaskar@host81-155-189-163.range81-155.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391384876 576206 :nisstyre!~yours@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1391385290 699792 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391385580 180594 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric