< 1391558432 413316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw the relevance of this lemma if i'm thinking correctly is that any unbounded computation in your language _must_ eventually return to the same program point but with a >= bag than the previous time < 1391558474 89596 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means you can sort of solve the halting problem. < 1391558490 755147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for it. < 1391558515 528849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this doesn't take into account that probabilities may be zero. < 1391558535 244180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think having a >= bag than last time means you're in the same program tate < 1391558564 664164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you must be in the same point _and_ have a >= bag < 1391558586 513351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :same IP too < 1391558614 487254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well the thing is, if you return with a >= bag then it is theoretically _possible_ for you to loop infinitely. < 1391558635 747388 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, yes, it is < 1391558639 604107 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, does < 1391558708 536015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can repeat the same cycle again and get an even larger bag, etc. < 1391558738 419544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391558763 372766 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, it's impossible to reliably distinguish any bag from a bag that's <= it < 1391558814 560351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1391558834 954945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd have to resort to some sort of probabilistic algorithm < 1391559038 775516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not entirely sure when i previously looked at this lemma but it may have been in connection with proving that fractran cannot be tc with unordered rules. although i vaguely think that has a simpler proof. < 1391559127 890211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractran with unordered rules feels slightly analogous to your language somehow. < 1391559179 443972 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unordered fractran can definitely be simulated by this language < 1391559204 937518 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let X be the largest number of primes consumed by a rule < 1391559210 960577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with X primes that don't appear in any rule < 1391559223 298462 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :repeatedly, take out X items, if they match the numerator of a rule replace them with the denominator < 1391559227 864053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't, put them back and try again < 1391559300 765830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1391559374 822620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we simulate in the other direction? < 1391559416 364347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1391559446 647057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps we can, we can make a prime for each program position to flag it < 1391559582 569377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i think you can easily do any state machine that goes to a new state based on tokens removed from bag, and adds other tokens < 1391559671 469077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the probabilities may be slightly different, since you will be checking for a particular (set of) token(s) to remove with a rule < 1391559690 998196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1391559726 772699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that's a problem. < 1391559785 717265 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have a prime for each instruction pointer position < 1391559791 911526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and an entirely separate set of fraction for each < 1391559793 361501 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it works < 1391559818 975918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :q.essentially.d < 1391559879 618826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually surpried < 1391559881 533513 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*surprised < 1391559891 475897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend to assume everything that isn't completely obviously sub-TC is TC < 1391559933 257450 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not sure we've proved unordered fractran is "probabilistically" non-tc < 1391559965 306520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that you cannot force halting. < 1391559984 166910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it wouldn't be too surprising if it's non-tc altogether. < 1391560060 696758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the mutual simulations do _not_ preserve probabilities well - in unordered fractran, you choose rules uniformly, while in your language you choose bag tokens uniformly. < 1391560084 232651 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't see a way to compensate for that. < 1391560167 923276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a bag with 1 of each token except for one of which you had a million, there would be a great bias. < 1391560182 953516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1391560360 893748 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391561087 954304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: that bf-dowhile language we were talking about, ais523 calls it "DoFuck", says he also thinks it's turing-complete, and says "it's such an obvious idea it's probably been invented more than twice" < 1391561108 731209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps getting reinvented by people making broken bf implementations >:) < 1391561139 631451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's why I invented it in the first place :-) < 1391561143 296016 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :brain_fuck.vb < 1391561511 211015 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391561525 672908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391561564 268393 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1391561565 306082 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13HackEgo: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1391561588 10960 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huzzah < 1391561619 129989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run allquotes | tail -1 < 1391561619 749660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1165) 15:21 .. 15:41 I've got to stop using the IRC input line for short-term notes. fizzie: I tend to just send them to the channel that way if I need them in the future, I can find them in the log < 1391561629 999207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's there < 1391561660 983742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but _not_ in the repository browser < 1391561685 921154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i'm wondering is how dylan got in his command < 1391561702 503569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1391561703 146834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ this \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1391561716 443306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D < 1391561716 962827 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☺ < 1391561735 86160 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's dylan < 1391561749 652522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: top of http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1391561778 47705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor`: the repository browser is out of synch with HackEgo, both ways < 1391561878 851281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you cannot click the link to :-D in the diff page < 1391561988 767327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`file this < 1391561989 301743 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this: empty < 1391561993 343802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm this < 1391561995 7128 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391562524 102207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -l :-D < 1391562524 666334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: invalid option -- ' ' \ Try `ls --help' for more information. < 1391562528 978231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l :-D < 1391562529 575629 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 30 18:39 :-D < 1391562534 386992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`touch :-D < 1391562535 473280 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391562537 23202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -l :-D < 1391562537 633106 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 4 Jan 30 18:39 :-D < 1391562561 794751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I assume time doesn't flow in HackEgo < 1391563010 145506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think the repository in the browser is the same as the one HackEgo is currently using, which is why i'm wondering how dylan managed to get a command into it. < 1391563024 194956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a command which HackEgo hasn't respected) < 1391563042 949433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1391563043 548230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ Test.o \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1391563137 627588 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dylan is within us all < 1391563139 63345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps Gregor` accidentally brought up the old version or something. < 1391563148 641375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1391563152 427088 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: blowing in the wind? < 1391563526 20975 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1391564061 894536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was evidence in this room of excessive consumption of almost every type of fungot known to civilized man since 1544 AD < 1391564062 74663 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually in my view anyway), not ( 1 2) < 1391564196 32674 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many types is taht (i'm not civilized) < 1391564304 386871 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1391564481 256735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so other than lambda:, python has "with ... as ..." and "for ... in ..." which could more or less be replaced with a reasonable lambda thing < 1391564541 704927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i occasionally use the fact that the iteration variable of a for loop is set after the loop exits < 1391564546 779255 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i feel gross when i do < 1391564875 516361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really hate it when I do, because I always declare the iteration variable in the for loop. < 1391565867 222179 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The repository browser isn't just out of sync, it's referring to a whole other instance of HackEgo. < 1391565884 62746 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1391565897 318740 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have time to fix all the loose ends right now. < 1391565912 866958 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was remiss to change HackEgo to a new server when I had a hugely busy week coming up ^^´ < 1391566380 741703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok as i expected, i was just surprised that there's still someone using the old instance < 1391566430 860967 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391566486 240305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gregor < 1391566499 456876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for bringing back the hackster < 1391566526 520588 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391566885 803018 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391567036 735238 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391567241 850940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391568753 866837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391569173 916225 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391569898 794253 :Lauralie!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391570032 355547 :Lauralie!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 NICK :OverThere < 1391570088 650279 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone alive out there? < 1391570185 124012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION needs a hit of P3P
< 1391570212 863926 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is nothing good in the world that matches the regex ^P.P$ < 1391570215 901765 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome OverThere < 1391570216 791166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13OverThere: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1391570250 776849 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, wrong sort of esoteric for me then < 1391570263 174938 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :such is life < 1391570266 88187 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1391570271 327993 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1391570275 425429 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PRIVMSG #esoteric :off i go < 1391570294 660127 :OverThere!~IceChat9@91.189.69.251 PART :#esoteric < 1391571436 624064 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391571847 314807 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391573714 689522 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391573827 859912 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: nothing wrong with PCP < 1391574785 259489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reading And Another Thing < 1391574794 967495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep noticing when the writing sounds nothing like DNA < 1391575027 521147 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still some funny parts < 1391575044 236492 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ah, you see. I /stole/ it. Therefore it's not mine. You're winning my argument for me." < 1391576316 225794 :password2!~password@197.78.128.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391576752 559866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about the Post Correspondence Problem < 1391576802 601813 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391576834 199512 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391576858 634763 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadn't heard of it until now < 1391577086 228000 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391579211 238871 :password2!~password@197.78.128.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391579455 201489 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was what i meant as well) < 1391579478 911636 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we just talked about pcp here like i dunno some weeks ago < 1391579502 689854 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for like 3 messages, maybe even more < 1391579538 636318 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are so busted for not reading every line of the logs ever < 1391579844 209906 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391580978 285809 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should prove it's undecidable < 1391581023 708696 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :time of your life < 1391581062 855133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"secure_compare leaks the password always. Note that it takes different time to create a result of ord() depending whether it's <=100 or > 100 due to caching of small numbers." YESSSSSSSSS PYYYYYYYYYTHONNNNNNN < 1391581070 49013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross posting this to every irc channel i'm in < 1391581084 696162 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though I thought the cutoff was 256, not 100) < 1391581142 678198 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:f790:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, that's a compare function that's supposed to take equal time regardless of the actual password, but fails to? Nice. < 1391581151 920258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391581189 32997 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391581200 454915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to do that in a high level language < 1391581205 930460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to do it and really be sure of it in C, even < 1391581242 571641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the suggestion I saw today is that when comparing sensitive strings you should HMAC them both first https://www.isecpartners.com/blog/2011/february/double-hmac-verification.aspx < 1391581878 759411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language with space and time constraints in the types? < 1391581894 301478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going where Haskell dare not tread < 1391581894 572167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sort of thing would be good yeah < 1391581916 599048 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: afaik it was -5 thru 100, but it may have been chnaged < 1391581917 844000 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :changed* < 1391581949 604961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'print (255+1 is 256, 256+1 is 257)' < 1391581950 608800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​(True, False) < 1391581970 614837 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's now -5 thru 256 < 1391581980 403312 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good range < 1391581989 436045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR it went up to 256 even a few years back < 1391581998 7549 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does that mean the timing attack is fixed? < 1391581998 785916 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it has been changed between 2.4 and 2.5 < 1391582007 82991 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yes, it does fix the timing attack < 1391582029 964312 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yeah a DSL for constant-time programming would be good < 1391582046 950084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :forbid control flow or memory access that depends on sensitive inputs < 1391582073 286939 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tempting to think Racket when I think of DSL, especially now that I'm a Racket kick, but... somehow I think that wouldn't be appropriate here < 1391582073 469453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it's very hard to be sure that things are really constant time < 1391582088 898305 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cperciva tells me he had a dim recollection of some MIPS CPUs which predicted the carry flag to be clear and would have to stall the pipeline in order to re-execute if not" < 1391582105 768076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely MUL and DIV are often not constant time < 1391582114 767025 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specialized CPU? < 1391582128 249551 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like this might be a case of CPUs optimizing when we don't necessarily want them to < 1391582166 880887 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want mul to optimized, thank you very much! you weirdos with your special cases < 1391582213 912901 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLOW IMUL ecx < 1391582219 194548 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SLOW prefix for the win < 1391582283 301856 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is taht a real prefix, it's not on osdev < 1391582312 299912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1391582326 762580 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an ebook of osdev stuff? < 1391582365 895280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm disappointed in you, lifthrasiir < 1391582433 261518 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ;) < 1391582439 959732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if i make a processor where all instructions take a pseudorandom number of cycles at least as great as the cost of the slowest instruction (doing some bullshit to mask power usage). imo secure < 1391582442 29685 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1391582458 301615 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do a cpuid every other instruction to serialize stuff < 1391582467 528184 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it clobbers most of the registers though < 1391582502 677942 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a complete list of Magic: The Gathering cards that i can grep through < 1391582506 413219 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :even just the card names < 1391582525 905209 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even just a reasonable list < 1391582564 963933 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other instructions for serializing < 1391582566 363941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there < 1391582584 594780 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, I don't remember what they are though < 1391582594 110752 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's http://magiccards.info/ < 1391582595 905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are memory barriers, but they might not inhibit out of order execution < 1391582696 220918 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually care about the cards, just the card names < 1391582718 961903 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you ca n look up lists within each set, at least. < 1391582744 359174 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't there a zillion sets < 1391582753 891934 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :couple dozen, looks like. < 1391582786 126080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&output=textspoiler,textspoiler&name=+![jsjdfhasgkdsfahgahdf] < 1391582806 164062 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as jsjdfhasgkdsfahgahdf never becomes a real card < 1391582828 577593 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1391582838 93026 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't see the option to search for "not" < 1391582965 858511 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh by the way shachaf, you ever read pirx the pilot < 1391582989 842855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1391583007 215159 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1391583016 847574 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1391583038 982961 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Stanisław Lem < 1391583045 423874 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall you reading the cyberiad or suchlike < 1391583054 68460 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, should i read it < 1391583058 709781 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read only a bit of the cyberiad :'( < 1391583059 866699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mos def < 1391583099 326202 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pirx the pilot reminded me of computer programming, in that everything goes wrong incomprehensibly < 1391583433 710904 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey do you know about the simplex category < 1391583445 705790 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should answer my questions < 1391583546 654837 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know hsit-all about nothing < 1391583689 475925 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok well do you know that each number in pascal's triangle tells you the number of paths you can take from the top to reach that number < 1391583699 195905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1391583715 383968 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ther ea generalization comeing on < 1391583725 827929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it's p. obvious from the usual definition but imo it's good < 1391583733 789269 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, that part is your job hth < 1391583747 92802 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PART #esoteric :"gonna read about killing chickens" < 1391583764 950842 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1391585201 252623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391587251 80894 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391588625 890199 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure this is any sort of generalization, but if you take the matrix M = (1 1 \\ 1 0), say, and start taking its powers, then you will start seeing fibonacci numbers. another way to see this is that you have a graph with two nodes and adjacency matrix M, and (M^n)_(a,b) gives you the number of paths of length n from node a to node b, and in this case you're basically counting binary words where 11 is forbidden. investigating the interplay betw < 1391588626 70673 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :een the growth of the matrix entries and the actual sets of paths (in particular, bi-infinite ones) is one of the things symbolic dynamics studies. < 1391588743 944173 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1391589092 878773 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, hackego < 1391589113 54279 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is back. what you say to that, fungot? < 1391589200 327752 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot says "netsplit" < 1391589217 939422 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netsplit says "fungot" < 1391590623 147085 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391590686 215808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391591094 104659 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1391591976 378970 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just the word "conundrum" in a set of exercises for students, because of alliteration. < 1391592121 2635 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: used that word unquoted or quoted? < 1391592162 709747 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooops, fizzie accidentally the conundrum < 1391592428 271133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unquoted. Well, the sentence itself is quoted. It's in the sometimes-whimsical (except I haven't come up with anything whimsical so far) "title" (of sorts) of a question. < 1391592438 615020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I called it the "Conditional contradiction conundrum". < 1391592562 342344 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I see < 1391593325 512684 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1391593472 531561 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391596529 75362 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikiplia has a built-in integer type, add and subtract and eq operations, but no built-in less-than comparison, so you have to simulate comparision by subtracting, stringifying the number (there's a built-in op for that), taking the first character of the string, and comparing it to '-'? < 1391596540 986935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\?/\./ < 1391596758 142293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391597210 21126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you are so busted for not reading every line of the logs ever <-- shocking < 1391597232 328277 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vote for kicke banne < 1391597284 992528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vote for new danish prime minister kicke banne < 1391600488 408527 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391600842 151985 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391601234 973242 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1391601556 88330 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391602305 734757 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ut-oh. My ~/writing/ (where I keep all "serious" stuff) on the previous department's system seems to be completely empty, as opposed to containing four years' worth of work. < 1391602346 908654 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also modification-timestamped 2013-12-13, and the automatic snapshots on the NFS thing only reach three weeks back. < 1391602662 827237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yer bot is not here hth < 1391603163 837720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, *ouch* < 1391603200 189288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my theory that we are in the end times keeps amassing evidence. < 1391603288 172914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it took about five minutes for the admins to restore the files from "a previous home directory server" they had around, and anyway they've got quite a comprehensive set of weekly tape backups; it's just time- and labor-intensive to get at the latter. < 1391603301 434645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see about that bot. < 1391603360 384547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to randomize a freenode server that works, it seems. < 1391603404 384113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1391603414 892015 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1391603419 840170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: End times: cancelled? < 1391603420 148756 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm a member of the esolang in him and it criticized < 1391603430 151153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds ominous. < 1391603436 699055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :postponed for a week, maybe. < 1391603866 323749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: My thesis draft file is 112 pages, but I haven't actually written anything for it yet. (I just took all the publications I've been involved in -- 70 pages, apparently -- and dumped them in our template file, which adds 42 further pages of lipsum text and miscellaneous overhead.) < 1391603927 985880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should start putting the thing together one of these days, given that my doctoral-student funding dried up when the year changed.) < 1391603948 969499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Silly people and their "must graduate in four years" pretensions.) < 1391604099 657813 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine contains no liirum laarum, but half of it is still copypaste from articles < 1391604127 709460 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only took like 1/3 of our publications < 1391604130 757306 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or less < 1391604141 532441 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.44.88 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391604165 954317 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my coauthor is taking another 1/3 and the rest will be donated to charity < 1391604192 841084 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is liirum laarum a Finnish version of lorem ipsum? < 1391604200 156308 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1391604208 241151 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you can donate publications to charity? < 1391604216 25892 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a funny term for "nonsense" < 1391604245 767850 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there's an english one i can't think of, but the finnish one was reasonably close to lorem ipsum so i went for it. < 1391604296 470135 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure whether you can donate them, i shall contact unicef < 1391604336 70750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you put lorem ipsum text in your dissertation? wow < 1391604342 614350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: It was in the template. < 1391604347 998109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :\usepackage{lipsum} and all. < 1391604348 622671 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :will it remain there in the final versoin? < 1391604352 237978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1391604376 277957 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually my coauthor is probably taking less than 1/3, since we/he will surely have 100 pages more next year when he writes it) < 1391604390 206777 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I have to write a thesis too, and reusing a lorem ipsum generator would be an easy way to pad it < 1391604400 216897 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of thesis < 1391604410 164958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you should keep a section of it to keep the reviewers on their toes hth < 1391604416 946832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a simple splice articles together thesis probably < 1391604450 419641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and my coauthor both included our common articles in the theses... < 1391604507 426887 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's normla < 1391604509 738325 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I'm not sure if all the publications are going to be included, I just put them all in for now. Anyway, the convention here is that we'd both just claim some percentage of the article, and write something vague in the "Author's Contribution" section. < 1391604512 470386 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :these are all co-written articles < 1391604542 53311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait you didn't say they were disjoint 1/3rds < 1391604633 745327 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are disjoint thirds < 1391604641 756112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1391604705 398212 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me like a month to come up with a natural way to include more than 3 of our articles in a coherent thesis < 1391604715 233735 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm not sure i succeeded, but anyway < 1391604736 409274 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no two are on the same topic, basically < 1391604741 55293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah, I know that feelign < 1391604778 649781 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :except of course all of them are about CA and subshifts which is a pretty small topic :D but to me they feel like very different topic. < 1391604780 110801 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*topics < 1391604886 373920 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what's your topic? < 1391604895 320049 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, roughly < 1391604954 502955 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :graph coloring < 1391604993 723458 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo < 1391605015 270336 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you may give details! < 1391605031 586858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically we invent graph invariants that are crazy enough that nobody have tried to prove anything about them yet, then prove anything we can about them, and try to phrase it in a way that the statements sound interesting and nontrivial < 1391605109 298313 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no offense but that sounds awesome no matter how much you try to downplay it < 1391605111 592356 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i see???? < 1391605125 658619 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one statement is about a graph invariant that is lessequal to the fractional chromatic number and 1/e times the fractional chromatic number < 1391605130 779123 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here => http://www.math.bme.hu/~ambrus/sc/publ.html < 1391605173 386354 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does CA stand for? < 1391605194 225510 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata < 1391605221 143228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. (that was ambiguous) < 1391605223 709697 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1391605240 181637 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my goal in life is to make cellular automata a respected field of mathematics < 1391605267 693029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And world peace while you're at it? < 1391605277 812395 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think wolfram did that in ankos < 1391605284 298907 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. world domination, that's more like it < 1391605301 99151 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :world peace is on page 787 < 1391605489 331388 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, promise world peace in the abstract, then if you get by page 787 it turns out you can get world peace in some special case in a very simplified model provided the generalized riemann hypothesis, and it's not known to be constructible in polynomial time. < 1391605611 684863 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's world peace only within a huge constant factor only. < 1391605615 444103 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what do you think of bondage and domination? < 1391605640 710334 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(any non-graph theoretical connotations are accidental) < 1391605813 471570 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? what is bondage in this context? I don't really know much about any area of maths really. < 1391605851 775274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a web search
< 1391605914 430355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bondage number" ... "Restrained bondage number of a graph" ... < 1391605928 681153 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well bondage numbers and domination numbers are graph invariants, but perhaps only if you spend too much time reading arxiv < 1391605951 894928 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The authors must have the same giddy feeling as M. Spivak about "The Joy of TeX". < 1391606045 410941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liars. "This site uses cookies to improve performance." < 1391606083 871196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another great book title. "Topics on Domination" < 1391606109 198726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :on -> in. < 1391606110 701307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00222-003-0335-2 < 1391606116 962329 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex entropy < 1391606169 150632 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm maybe it's not called sex entropy there < 1391606171 639255 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :just h_{sex} < 1391606178 582769 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's called sex entropy in his talks < 1391606208 373255 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know who came up with the term but anyway) < 1391606234 791755 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :on crazy terms mathematicians use, see this anecdote => http://mathoverflow.net/questions/53122/mathematical-urban-legends/53738#53738 < 1391606272 978072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :without looking, exploding points on a plane? < 1391606282 415260 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391606287 378974 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1391606288 499239 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing up. < 1391606289 893772 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blowing up < 1391606292 627209 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that < 1391606300 383454 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding is what sml does < 1391606312 555885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when it converts an array to a list < 1391606320 836344 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "blowing up" line was typed after I had a look.) < 1391606442 974389 :impomatic!~chatzilla@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 26.0/20131205075310] < 1391606488 928370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391606573 892410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391606585 667038 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391606592 848270 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good sticky morning! < 1391606598 623756 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist < 1391606599 200293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily < 1391606791 134526 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good think the HackEgo was resurrected before the next `olist < 1391606891 630200 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :essential services were restored just in time! < 1391607258 620302 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391607901 643538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wait you forgot the number < 1391607929 959560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(943) < 1391608086 417629 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops >_>'... < 1391608638 479456 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should complain if there's a missing argument? < 1391608650 308718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complain < 1391608650 928941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1391608673 298697 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you complain at it, not how it complains at you < 1391608676 697244 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/complain < 1391608677 237527 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "$@" >> complaints; echo Complaint filed. Thank you. < 1391608683 808130 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, hmm < 1391608689 527537 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you just filed a null complaint < 1391608704 356021 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n1 complaints < 1391608704 932048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391608723 325138 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/6c8a8b8f754f/complaints < 1391608729 965803 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` shuf -n1 complaints < 1391608730 538293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391608744 229434 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever. < 1391608751 194637 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`complaints < 1391608751 782257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 complaints < 1391608765 803229 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls -la complaints < 1391608766 457291 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrwxrwxrwx 1 5000 5000 9 Sep 25 13:06 complaints -> /dev/null < 1391608814 892181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :very efficient. < 1391608837 823830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's backup day today so I'm pissed off. Being the BOFH, however, does have it's advantages. I reassign null to be the tape device - it's so much more economical on my time as I don't have to keep getting up to change tapes every 5 minutes. And it speeds up backups too, so it can't be all bad can it? Of course not." < 1391608852 902402 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1391608896 233166 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :helooooooOOOdl < 1391608968 750288 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchanoodlegoo?! < 1391609177 45548 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :noodle goo? < 1391609200 442300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnocchi channel nooodl gobbledygook? < 1391609325 680067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started out with "cockadoodledoo". < 1391609333 367382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since apparently it's morning somewhere. < 1391609351 259709 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 15:08 here but i also just got up. the flu is something < 1391609383 974541 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:09 here < 1391609392 6197 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:09:44 14:09 here < 1391609421 884218 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed 5 Feb 14:10:21 GMT 2014 < 1391609422 194296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodles < 1391609422 926322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooodles are the invention of the Chinese. They were brought to Europe by Marco Polo, a distant ancestor of Taneb. < 1391609431 325667 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run date < 1391609431 891587 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wed Feb 5 14:10:30 UTC 2014 < 1391609445 99710 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Sweetmorn, the 36th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3180 < 1391609521 125495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a discordian date? < 1391609535 236540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is :D < 1391609579 905422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. https://twitter.com/ddate < 1391609604 483466 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seems to be late though) < 1391610035 891813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The rights of a Pope include but are not necessarily limited to: (...) 3. To baptise, marry, and bury (with the permission of the deceased in the latter two cases). " < 1391610502 465774 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391610823 628063 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1391610871 914963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391610878 237448 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391610896 665889 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: lol < 1391611048 227910 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391611424 477962 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1391611424 997283 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 051412Z 05016KT 2SM -SN BKN014 OVC028 M09/M12 A3015 RMK SC7SC1 SLP213 < 1391611431 890619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to -SN! < 1391611713 611189 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1391611714 246271 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 051420Z 12008KT CAVOK 04/M05 Q1002 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 17010KT < 1391611838 63150 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391611838 534121 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 051420Z 10005KT 9999 SCT010 BKN150 M04/M06 Q1012 NOSIG < 1391611852 351575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now they've gotten rid of the runways. < 1391611856 479157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a strange. < 1391611863 646610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, have to bus a catch. -> < 1391611920 581747 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they only show runway conditions if they are suboptimal. < 1391611928 611933 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: good catching! < 1391612054 598974 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope he'll release it afterwards. < 1391612110 250800 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391612138 142903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gestures “I once catched a 10 ton bus that was that long”
< 1391612238 866476 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone give boily medical help for his arms < 1391612401 486599 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrary to what my previous affirmation may imply, I am most definitely not slenderman. < 1391612534 242359 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Dith can make any species 'uncannily stealthy' with very little investment. A sneaky troll is awesome!” < 1391612677 296959 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa they made a god for tras? < 1391612687 477715 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even tren I guess < 1391612692 219279 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally crawl is good again < 1391613103 40868 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: not sure I agree with that, dtsund seems to have given recent Crawl up altogether because he feels it's more difficult than it should be < 1391613109 444816 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to all the better strategies being nerfed < 1391613127 868218 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! if dtsund has given up then it's probably even better than I thought < 1391613196 348903 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“more difficult that it should be”? it's a roguelike, for fungot's sake! < 1391613196 528494 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it exists.) < 1391613199 562589 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it does. < 1391613199 852607 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fnord do! exchange has to call another procedure with those values as memory etc... :) ..but true. things work out though, because our cell is no longer ' () < 1391613451 72844 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: strangely enough, difficulty for the sake of difficulty does not create a good game < 1391613476 144160 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, for instance, the comments by the creator of IWBTG about how he went to a lot of effort to make sure it wasn't too hard < 1391613482 766336 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, time to go home < 1391613482 968234 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1391613537 911577 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell callforjudgement I agree, but fun difficulty with challenging mental challenges is fun. it's like playing go. < 1391613538 357138 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1391613559 904422 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 check your callforjudgement messages plzkthx hth twh hand < 1391613560 245221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1391613612 883997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391613845 12591 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's important to be able to make progress - being stuck in the same spot for hours is a powerful fun-killer. Others include having to play the same boring sequence over and over again in order to get to a challenging part where one keeps failing. < 1391613849 20324 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough. < 1391613866 337729 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't happen with procedurally generated permadeath games < 1391613872 168209 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter, at least < 1391613879 638193 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really the former either, unless it's a particularly grindy one < 1391613923 801750 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can't make progress in one part, it's nice to be able to attack some other part < 1391613929 433993 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that's why DCSS has chopped off and shortened many branches and levels. < 1391613953 460926 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: that's a big problem Angband has: one main line of repetetitive levels. < 1391613988 92233 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was some game where apparently some people would go walk in a treadmill for extended periods of time, while they thought over what they had tried, and what they might try to do in other places < 1391613994 885252 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having the same problem with ninja twins (level 26, no motivation to play further) < 1391613995 473662 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: crawl does fairly well with that due to branches < 1391614004 483039 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.44.88 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391614041 724057 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though actually what puts me off most are the game logic glitches. In that level, one can partially push sliding blocks into other ones...) < 1391614047 267737 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391614391 639365 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I caught it, rode it, and then let it go. < 1391614699 864906 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391614708 227240 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks 'bot! < 1391614743 642293 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello! < 1391614757 658666 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ello Johnnie < 1391614758 442859 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jellohnnie < 1391614782 644363 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I found my new favourite chimæ̈ric hello ^^ < 1391614788 203422 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ Nice < 1391614862 844826 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After doing some tinkering on SPAM/1, I got to thinking about some of the very early issues of Byte magazine from Archive.org. I remember Chess being one of the first major programs published. < 1391614927 822222 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :After that thought got stuck in my head for a while, I got to thinking "Why are we only doing Hello World programs? Couldn't we write something a bit bigger?" < 1391614967 192374 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I thought of Chess, and then I thought something more simpler....Tic-Tac-Toe. Hence the entry in the Ideas page. < 1391615092 664561 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, i was thinking about "Matt Chat 173: Quest for Glory with Lori and Corey Cole" by Matt Barton in 2012-11-18 at , at 19:43 and some minutes through < 1391615098 926984 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e,elliott__ : ^ < 1391615111 758328 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the whole interview is pretty enjoyable, though) < 1391615142 7144 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Scheduled maintenance < 1391615145 641927 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to need to flag that down and view it after work. < 1391615183 964184 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube-dl-ing < 1391615215 934614 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't know "Crawl"
< 1391615262 103528 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a simple game algorithm would tell apart ones who are serious in developing an eso (or joke language) from those who just wants to do a quick BF derivative. < 1391615304 421694 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: ssh joshua@crawl.akrasiac.org, password is joshua. < 1391615311 367892 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ? < 1391615338 776522 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most popular north american public crawl server? < 1391615340 433744 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF' ... where cells store functions (initially 0); + adds e^x to the function; - subtracts e^x; . outputs the function value at 0, and ' takes the derivative of the current cell. ;-) < 1391615343 525496 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Joshua....flashbacks of "War Games" ^__^ ) < 1391615363 823001 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with respect to x) < 1391615390 777800 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Respect da x < 1391615420 363833 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a derivative derivative of BF. < 1391615477 309520 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That comes curiously close to John Conway's Game of Life, there < 1391615594 968372 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Crawl" is a Rogue-like game ?) < 1391615662 516839 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta go. < 1391615672 51517 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391615691 352123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. it is (ostensibly) the Best Roguelike Out There. < 1391615768 940123 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1391615809 346525 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hasn't really felt any urge to try out Rogue-likes
< 1391615823 317812 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(perhaps Phantasie III is the closest) < 1391615841 628769 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck phantasie 3 < 1391615842 100331 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantasie is a fantasy role-playing video game series designed by Winston Douglas Wood and published by Strategic Simulations, Inc. in 1985. < 1391615873 484456 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :games published before I was born are the best ones. < 1391616004 395683 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, i've spent many hours playing Dungeon Master < 1391616032 914612 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of the first 3D realtime action RPGs) < 1391616340 601696 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sunk 1000s of hours into DM on my Amiga 500 < 1391616368 806677 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grins
< 1391616423 364072 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot easier to master than Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup:) < 1391616673 63676 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391617286 578926 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matily < 1391617322 118942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bon matintopia! < 1391617371 358339 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1391617371 676101 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 051550Z 02003KT 6000 BR OVC014 01/M01 Q1007 R01L/19//95 R08/19//95 R01R/19//95 NOSIG < 1391617380 209191 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar KATL < 1391617380 686673 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :KATL 051552Z 31017G20KT 10SM BKN020 BKN025 11/07 A3002 RMK AO2 SLP169 T01060067 < 1391617392 991164 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 11? how dare you? < 1391617435 34702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LOWI < 1391617435 246857 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOWI 051550Z VRB08G21KT 9999 FEW070 BKN110 BKN150 09/M02 Q1003 NOSIG < 1391617478 158912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn winds, apparently. < 1391618331 36419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? i didn't do it? < 1391618390 160856 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did come up with something so crazy i don't understand it last night < 1391618409 356656 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pray tell! < 1391618973 879298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay you have a queue of numbers < 1391618994 438064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far so good. < 1391618997 263243 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you iteratively do the following < 1391619007 175968 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop two numbers x then y < 1391619031 943021 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pop x numbers and push them in order back onto the queue y times < 1391619058 111964 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you would pop an empty queue, you get zero < 1391619068 688868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's it < 1391619121 893287 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so abc22 -> bcbca, where the reading end of the queue is to the right? < 1391619133 819672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :some queues delete themselves (having lots of 1's usually) some queues reach a steady state (of all two's) < 1391619140 270342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many grow forever < 1391619151 367221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes int-e < 1391619158 56580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some loop, like 2222 -> 2222 < 1391619158 354452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 5 4 3 2 1 → 6 5 4 3 → 0 6 5 0 6 5 0 6 5? < 1391619176 962376 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. 3 should be there 2 times. < 1391619194 511111 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 5 4 3 2 1 -> 4 3 6 5, I think. < 1391619209 67377 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. which is x, which is y? < 1391619217 327867 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 654321 33654 0336033603360336 < 1391619243 275295 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i usually put the read end on the right so i can append easier < 1391619248 89292 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by copy paste < 1391619337 89984 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so here's what i know: if you have a queue with no number greater than 2, and no more than 2 2's adjacent, it will delete itself. if you have a queue will all twos (at least four) it never changes, and if you have all >1 it grows without bound. < 1391619363 713660 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :>1? < 1391619364 114310 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have yet to find an oscillator with period >1 < 1391619416 379019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well, okay, it has to have some threes in the right position or it will steady state like all twos < 1391619434 155375 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a healthy mix of twos and threes grows forever, for instance < 1391619455 440101 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they are all >1 it will never get shorter < 1391619495 58624 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 -> 0000 -> 00 -> e. sorry, boundary cases. < 1391619538 362558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i said at least four twos < 1391619565 981046 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in the last statement you said "healthy" which wasn't defined ;) < 1391619580 733446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i can't define it simply < 1391619603 715965 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously any 2-digit string will die. < 1391619606 760768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you have to have some threes in positions which are 0 or 1 mod 4 < 1391619750 229628 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky. (32222)+ will stop growing. < 1391619790 67222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm now also popping from the left) < 1391619889 916631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like there are many ways to end up with repeated 2s eventually. The question of finding another kind of loop is interesting. < 1391620004 569109 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you have to have some 3's in both types of positions apparently... < 1391620024 615504 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, the cases in between are the ones i'm interested in < 1391620026 932974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. 07420742 -> 420742 -> 07420742 < 1391620035 45906 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like what about queues with only 3's and 1's < 1391620068 124413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was quick < 1391620070 522668 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice job < 1391620127 824090 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about oscillators of arbitrary period < 1391620129 778135 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :((0 ?)^k(2k)2)^{>=2}, of period k. < 1391620134 596003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now how about a sequence that grows really really big before deleting itself over the course of thousands of iterations :P < 1391620174 994780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 10^10^10 1 < 1391620179 973155 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :did int-e just anticipate my question and answer it in two seconds < 1391620219 872939 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what does that say < 1391620261 534195 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's a starting sequence; after one step you have 10^10^10 1s. after 10^10^10/2 more steps, it'll be empty. < 1391620262 20120 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1391620275 338792 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not, it's 10^10^10+1? < 1391620286 341201 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, first guess was correct. < 1391620301 410267 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's lame. i was hoping it'd have some non-1s in it for most of the steps. < 1391620319 888406 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I messed this up: ((0 ?)^k(2k+2)2)^{>=2}, of period k+1 < 1391620332 664076 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a sequence that spends half the cycles growing and half the cycles shrinking, alternating between the two phases forever < 1391620349 210308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1391620350 936696 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1391620369 649963 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i just said, but replace forever with "finally deleting itself after thousands of cycles" < 1391620432 905600 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "look for a cycle with period > 1, without using 0" is a good problem. < 1391620438 6910 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 ... < 1391620474 226831 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that keeps pushing more 1s to the end before becoming just 1s and destroying itself? < 1391620496 201936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :121 -> 11; 2121 -> 21; etc. < 1391620618 582767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, one can start with 3 n 1 4 1, which will grow for n+1 steps and then shrink for 2n steps, or so. < 1391620688 851355 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 -> 3n -> 3n+1 -> ... -> 4n -> 4n-3 -> 4n-6 -> ... more like 4/3n steps of shrinking) < 1391620698 257222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1391620738 754511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the shrinking phase consists of consuming 111, appending 1; the difference is only 2. < 1391621204 70353 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i want to start with the beginning of pi < 1391621666 109065 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ddVC -- $ python q.py 0 7 4 2 0 7 4 2 < 1391621743 863747 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391621755 764345 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1391621782 12959 :Namaskar!~Namaskr@host86-163-78-143.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391621894 734580 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :python q.py 8 2 0 7 0 9 0 -1 8 2 < 1391621959 967049 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391622068 682753 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391622135 246166 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1391622147 402656 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative numbers? < 1391622156 510370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't matter how often a string of length 0 is repeated ;) < 1391622175 710382 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 2 0 n 4 2 and 4 2 6 n 4 2 seem to be the shortest oscillators < 1391622220 450643 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 2 1 0 4 5 2 is also a cool one < 1391622222 989654 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that i can just describe something here and get an implementation without any effort < 1391622260 206930 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it found a new one! 4 3 4 0 4 3 < 1391622303 148217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :a predecessor (4 0 4 3)^3; all part of the pattern :) < 1391622314 888400 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :predecessor *of < 1391622363 226297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I'm wrong. < 1391622413 811755 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it chops off 6 elements at once, I never did that. < 1391622468 354678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a nice one < 1391622669 855396 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :426142 is an oscillator, but 426542 grows without bound < 1391622677 627432 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/raw/LwjTn0HIUewiNZAWZPwJ/ short oscillators < 1391622750 884324 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1391622760 236477 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/TfAC now in Python 3 and stopping after reaching () < 1391622808 359108 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 n 4n-8 0 4 n is another one that works for all n < 1391622825 440685 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :like 4 6 16 0 4 6 < 1391622832 98541 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :426142 is still the only one with no zeros < 1391623066 572066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 2 10 1 8 1 6 2 is another (period 3). 6 2 8 1 6 2 8 1 is an accidental one with period 12. < 1391623107 597727 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1391623119 215115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like we can get complicated behavior? < 1391623128 325460 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 2 14 1 12 1 10 1 8 2 has period 4, and there's a whole familiy of those. < 1391623380 160313 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit obvious, but the 2{4,} family of oscillators could all be generated as 1 N 2 < 1391623399 60661 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pattern: 2n 2 (4n-2) 1 (4n-4) 1 ... (2n+4) 1 2n 2, for period n) < 1391623410 159748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: beep boop < 1391623410 414335 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh, my impression of uni was that the output tape, in any such language from the libraries. you just have a function that will find if two lambda expressions i gave? you didn't use < 1391623433 799166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome password2 < 1391623434 779607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08password2: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1391623450 43238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they were `relcome'd yesterday < 1391623464 977426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEN WE RELCOME THEM AGAIN < 1391623466 813911 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that only an attempt that failed due to unavailability of the HackEgo? < 1391623470 466808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1391623477 207950 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more the merrier, they say < 1391623690 576885 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what is ... < 1391623721 604230 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough random numbers to make the whole thing have 2n+2 elements? < 1391623757 716683 :MoALTz!~no@host81-153-176-198.range81-153.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391624246 430051 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and the `relcomes Are! < 1391624327 326254 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , finally i get the full relcome < 1391624353 709364 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and . HOLy shizz , colors in an irc channel < 1391624407 794301 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo yes | rainbow < 1391624408 471625 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​0202y02e09s02 < 1391624409 503497 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: 12EMBRACE THE COLOURS! < 1391624503 414907 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i post NSFW links here? < 1391624537 984807 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but... why would you < 1391624550 922450 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its on topic and funny < 1391624561 604173 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then post it < 1391624569 877984 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NSFW http://anticache.img5.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-oglaf-sex-rainbow-479025.jpeg < 1391624611 67640 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what went through my head when i read 'EMBRACE the COLOURS' < 1391624663 794507 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought for a second that you had a NSFW link about esolangs < 1391624669 506808 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be.. impressive < 1391624676 299408 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no , i meant the colours < 1391624700 69427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colours are esoteric? < 1391624710 569547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1391624749 578462 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION browses Amazon for a certain Lovecraft story...
< 1391624759 96682 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am trying to imagine how a nsfw esoteric lang would work < 1391624791 403592 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pointer will be named D < 1391624983 898860 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391625155 543878 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a very interesting overlap between this chännel's quotes, and crawl's learndb. I already knew elliott__'s in both, but then monqy too. < 1391625374 221991 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , this channel has made it very tempting to try my hand at writing a eso lang < 1391625482 233243 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i geuss i should try by writing an interpreter for one first < 1391625585 828512 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391625622 505295 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: that's usually how it goes. you write interps for various esolangs, get your brains mangled by underload, coast along, then create your own... < 1391625660 152220 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1391625665 902605 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm so lazy < 1391625667 116128 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1391625704 574710 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: project gutenberg didn't help? < 1391625769 705380 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: oh. hm. eh. eeeeeegbhghghghgh. < 1391625771 317653 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391625814 252315 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“eeeeeegbhghghghgh”: a native Canadiamerican word meaning “I completely forgot about Project Gutenberg.” < 1391625881 111341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and there's this one ... http://cthulhuchick.com/free-complete-lovecraft-ebook-nook-kindle/ < 1391626161 895872 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.43.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391626244 376066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nobody knows the wreck of the soul the way you do < 1391626244 593958 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: nooooo... *cries*) an call that code from chicken? < 1391626255 766579 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ( < 1391626255 946288 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it returns their both results. boggle.) < 1391626261 502646 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ( < 1391626261 682254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ummm...i dont know. but i was suggesting that initself_ paste his stuff particularly amusing. and you... < 1391626301 165550 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: whoi is initself? < 1391626301 480685 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: " i've never used rails apart from the ugly ruby frameworks that i'm considering trying it out will be interesting < 1391626314 3320 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh, a rubyist. < 1391626314 519507 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what would ' aa fnord aaaaa' become? :d did i leave? < 1391626327 169067 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: an exponentially growing sequence. next! < 1391626327 381915 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: for say ' ( require-srfi 1)' would be better than buying her a zero < 1391626341 522097 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hey, no human traffic! you can't buy Fiora. < 1391626341 701702 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: so that ( print ( 5 7 9) ' odd) ( else ' even)) < 1391626355 783280 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no no, I think the zero was a gift < 1391626360 795427 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, where is she? < 1391626380 113300 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: aaaah. the Gift of the Null Knowledge. < 1391626392 708780 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 oglaf < 1391626411 718382 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: flowers and chocolate are common when it comes to humans, but I dunno about bots... < 1391626411 935398 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: heh remember the fnord defun but mine would too but apparently it just isn't going to be wrong < 1391626418 519564 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then again, zeroes are ring-formed, so there's always that < 1391626441 32716 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: it isn't going to be wrong?! great! < 1391626441 212257 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: doesn't fnord five, for example. it could be < 1391626472 251350 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a basket of chocolate-covered fnords would be a nice gift to fungot. < 1391626472 430973 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: gui toolkits. which confused me. by " interesting" to most people. < 1391626492 260776 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't think a lot of people find GUI toolkits interesting.. < 1391626516 252785 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION screams “JAVA SWING IS GOOD!”
< 1391627288 920112 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: JAVA SWING IS GOOD? < 1391627289 279890 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: alfred jarry! say something about th' death of disco!! i'm in a chroot < 1391627318 928499 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you grepped for fungot, I wonder if fungot or people asking fungot to speak would make less sense < 1391627319 198815 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: does " algorithm" for applying unrestricted grammars, whereas i associate logic programming with a set of defined operations on cells? sounds a bit like fnord < 1391627352 784015 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: people make less sense. fungot is the Clearest of Us All. < 1391627352 963496 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: s/ i/it/ it < 1391627362 900017 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: see? ↑ < 1391627706 921220 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shining with the clarity of a smokescreen illuminated by fire < 1391627910 960718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you trying to get an "i'm in a chroot" meme going? < 1391627911 140363 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: every time i've attempted. ( f a ( f b c) b c) b c) < 1391627945 348315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course there had to be unbalanced parentheses. < 1391627995 939534 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION balances fungot with a curved mapole
< 1391627996 118772 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: uh... this can't be good. < 1391628002 903583 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, it isn't. < 1391628003 121994 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: either way it doesn't use any overly schemely stuff', ' names x', you know < 1391628103 291204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a Java swing bit like a sex swing? < 1391628131 715692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do have frames < 1391628230 836819 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote fungot | shuf -n 1 < 1391628231 16554 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: i'm just reading the program, and it was long ago... < 1391628231 548166 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :249) Phantom_Hoover: if the list is in random order, like poor ehird here < 1391628253 220171 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good one. < 1391628275 558134 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yes. that quote was indeed long ago. < 1391628275 821013 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: lol, in a country with compartively strong gun control, and partitioning, and almost a week until i buy more!" < 1391628296 209288 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1391628326 124226 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: uhm. your bot. he is become Death. < 1391628360 212164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of worrying. I guess e's buying guns over the Internet, then. < 1391628413 229223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, regarding your earlier question, I think Fiora gave up on the channel when there was that discussion on offensive terminology the other day. < 1391628470 124881 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. :( < 1391628575 578385 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1391629257 840876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391629260 917151 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391629317 745956 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on my first defense :) < 1391629411 385526 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Client Quit < 1391629563 899181 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391629946 931536 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391630078 506589 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391630104 679059 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391630123 897028 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Johnnie defending what? < 1391630124 443266 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1391630354 486579 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391630399 837965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: I read about your cuckoo proof of work function. very cool! < 1391630442 211240 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1391630545 605340 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not seeing any cuckoins though:-( < 1391630583 76928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you plan to develop your own cryptocurrency? < 1391630622 511774 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1391630653 25800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could get rich quick < 1391630708 256384 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i alrd am:) < 1391630723 542077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1391630732 29432 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :so where can I buy esocoins? < 1391630773 440189 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :first, port bitcoin source to brainfuck < 1391630791 870278 :password2!~password@197.78.136.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391630835 128398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily You people with your "never use ask and tell consistently" policies! < 1391630835 695832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1391630871 613614 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or would esocoin replace proof of work be proof of new esolanf design? < 1391630878 433896 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be->by < 1391630910 853003 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391630960 276709 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Nathanator on these IRC chats? < 1391630974 410766 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the difference between ask and tell? and don't tell me ask is related to MonadReader, and tell MonadState. < 1391630980 360970 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/State/Writer/ < 1391631069 383448 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your excuse for not starting a crypto-currency, kmc? < 1391631103 17123 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny_: we have Taneb. < 1391631192 163065 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nathanator and Taneb are two separate people, I take it. < 1391631304 108444 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote Newcastle < 1391631304 773672 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :963) it's raining in newcastle, therefore the elliotts are distinct. boily's Newcastle Theorem. < 1391631345 215314 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnny_: I suppose there's a functor going from elliott__ over to Taneb for that principle. < 1391631345 882199 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391631392 916438 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering if either SPAM/1 is in danger of being deleted, or if I need to put more effort into it (IE: transfer protocol vs. computer language) < 1391631404 690437 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RE, not IE < 1391631513 890350 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no admin is non-lazy enough to delete things with non-spam content < 1391631591 923255 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. That gives me room to work on the programming language part of it. I think I might have put in too much emphasis on the transfer part. < 1391631663 700436 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, it's well spent emphasis. the first esolang with amateur radio codes! < 1391631666 689355 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: basic laziness < 1391631699 368975 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy to get rich:) < 1391631713 237319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm already fairly rich < 1391631713 416965 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :These "Who created X?" captchas are clever < 1391631727 574117 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody here who's poor and not lazy? < 1391631735 806503 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the vote of confidence, boily. I want to challenge myself to make a complete game. Either Tic-Tac-Toe (easiest) or chess (ambitious) < 1391631738 388375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a lot of students don't we... < 1391631739 731431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I weren't lazy I wouldn't be poor < 1391631751 841504 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp: will you make such people rich? < 1391631756 600123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the expected value of making a new altcoin is that high < 1391631764 186407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the kind of thing i will fuck up with my laziness < 1391631782 558073 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait i probably should've read some context < 1391631790 523782 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they can start the first coin to use cuckoo cycle proof-of-work < 1391631796 98903 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought tromp just joined and said that, but it was zzo who joined. < 1391631850 516274 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the "who invented X?" CAPTCA questions on the wiki generated by parsing the articles or hardcoded? < 1391632025 813270 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I was chatting up with someone else about my project, they suggested for me to add on the Carrier Pigeon standard as another physical layer of the language. < 1391632104 368336 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm that ambitious...but that would make for an interesting language...based entirely on carrier pigeons and no computers. (Sound existential and possibly stupid doesn't it? :-) < 1391632128 772308 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live RFC 2549! < 1391632137 483399 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the one! < 1391632137 663158 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/25/11/ < 1391632146 600159 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers ← has them all. < 1391632169 500290 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bingo! < 1391632251 742879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :1459 is the only RFC number I can remember.. < 1391632423 513961 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2822 has been somewhat important for a few projects. < 1391633017 440590 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You guys are way ahead of me. All I have under my belt is inspiration from the first 6 issues of Byte and the first 2 issues of 73 magazine. < 1391633317 716055 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "ahead" would mean here < 1391633362 356205 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ahead" here would mean I have no idea what RFC 1459 or (until last night) RFC 2549 are. < 1391633451 579941 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're making good use of RFC 1459 at least < 1391633528 883788 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- Googled up RFC 1459 < 1391633691 895464 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@93.114.43.205 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391633746 332330 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh...and here I thought the IEEE was all there was. I had no idea the Internet Engineering Task Force existed. < 1391633789 207321 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, there's probably a whole array of stuff I don't have a clue about, either! < 1391633915 925051 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391633927 531245 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391634010 839484 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634019 819914 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391634027 141143 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :revolving door? < 1391634110 854650 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634123 821570 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391634151 752292 :Johnny_!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391634210 845903 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634277 774691 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391634346 101058 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634489 526419 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391634571 105521 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634672 808480 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1391634722 669454 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391634757 483767 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391634864 344280 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391635930 366641 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think is better way to store jump tables for use with RTS trick in 6502 programming? Some people store the low byte and high byte of the address together in one table, but I think it is better to store the low and high byte in two separate tables. What do you think is OK? < 1391636268 608462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the tradeoffs of each approach? < 1391636373 590964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first way requires a more complicated code to read the table, especially if there are more than 128 entries. The second way is difficult to enter in some assemblers which lack sufficient macro/preprocessor/postprocessor facilities. < 1391636865 135501 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems other people think the first way is better despite this but to me clearly it is second way which is better. < 1391636880 704643 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a faster and smaller code. < 1391637020 898965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if you can push more of the work to the assembler then that seems better < 1391637032 882598 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since these days the assembler runs on a machine like 9,000,000,000x faster than the target 6502 < 1391637039 987315 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1391637057 581537 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391637074 674548 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they use assemblers without macros or something like that, though; or assemblers with macros that aren't very powerful. < 1391637079 663286 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am enjoying playing Dungeons and Dragons < 1391637079 885824 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391637091 747476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I was playing Dungeons and Dragons yesterday. < 1391637100 431212 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am typing it now, and will reveal when ready. < 1391637127 845772 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours isn't recorded and it isn't far enough into the story to tell you what's really going on < 1391637147 290534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, then < 1391637154 153480 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a crow sorceress who definitely isn't the Raven Queen, not even a raven queen < 1391637172 837945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is after a magical tattoo that ended up on my chest < 1391637218 87123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you have to cast a spell to remove it < 1391637242 465710 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The party's mage is only level 1 < 1391637275 77702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, we levelled up at the end of the session < 1391637277 916067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :`danddreclist 49 < 1391637278 564995 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :danddreclist 49: shachaf nooodl boily \ http://zzo38computer.org/dnd/recording/level20.tex < 1391637296 704692 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then use mundane means to remove it to not waste the magic < 1391637305 422111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or in case someone might counter it) < 1391637308 790224 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have access to any < 1391637317 346505 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it doesn't seem particularly nefarious < 1391637324 283265 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I've had it for a session and a half < 1391637344 788669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now see how my game is played. < 1391637363 732055 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often find it useful to act last even if I have initiative, perhaps almost half of the time. < 1391637382 654935 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character is a pacifist, which is interesting and fun in its own way < 1391637390 790724 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is OK < 1391637403 73085 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all four other members of the party are quite combat heavy < 1391637431 333385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character is pretty weak at combat too, and doesn't do much combat < 1391637438 983816 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: ETERNAL MAGICAL UNREMOVED CHICKEN < 1391637440 615035 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391637448 79800 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a "kill" count, which is currently 1 < 1391637453 688483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly doing other stuff, both magical and mundane. < 1391637477 578948 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My character mostly heals < 1391637496 71442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But isn't technically pacifist except he won't ever deliberately harm any aberration type creatures. < 1391637522 383163 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also am the one to heal in my party, but isn't most of what I do, and I do have one damaging spell but mainly use it just as one way to light things on fire. < 1391637544 262078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case we need something lit on fire; if it is nonliving then they can't dodge either. < 1391637588 575197 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They also can't save. < 1391637763 717743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The book "Art of Defense in Chess" inspired some of the tactics I use, too. Do you like to use tactics similar to chess and chess variant too? < 1391637780 966283 :Slereah_!~jackal@169.111.101.84.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, defense! < 1391637900 987745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tactics are those zzo38? < 1391637918 494768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what sorts of things do you light on fire? < 1391637959 574766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I don't commonly light things on fire, and even when I do, is more commonly using mundane means to do so, but sometimes things such as wooden doors, explosives, etc < 1391637990 543673 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a good way to get through a door which is locked? < 1391637992 357528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tactics I mean are all sorts of defensive tactics, but also tactics which combine attack with defense. < 1391638015 56904 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It depends on the circumstances. Everything is depend on the circumstances. Maybe there is no need to get through such a door anyways. < 1391638106 646998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once use a fire to light a secret hideout on fire; I was magically slowed, and would probably have failed if I was fast since the people in the way would not have dodged. < 1391638155 699182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the slowness is actually to my advantage; spell the opponent cast on me, or try to do, are to my advantage, whether or not I know what the spell is, in fact. < 1391638220 358181 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more details it is necessary to read the file I linked. < 1391639316 158887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391639359 511367 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391639368 653258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1391639455 919160 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : BF' ... where cells store functions (initially 0); + adds e^x to the function; - subtracts e^x; . outputs the function value at 0, and ' takes the derivative of the current cell. ;-) < 1391639460 902139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you did there < 1391639751 508546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i usually put the read end on the right so i can append easier <-- heretic! < 1391639809 913874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes it a _lot_ harder on the eyes to trace the running < 1391639820 112417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the brain < 1391639911 125225 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you see the olist < 1391639917 686610 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391639941 296684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :live, even < 1391639943 614847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :Fake diamonds that are glued to eyes of plastic crows | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1391639947 776585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1391639985 635701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you think of montreal < 1391639985 815315 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i got to work on the mapper. it's < 1391640012 161057 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why does the topic have lyrics in it < 1391640089 811122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't it usually, when I've set it? < 1391640097 5416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: they're not even from montreal :< < 1391640129 135569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what do you think of of montreal < 1391640173 256232 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :paris < 1391640174 503533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the < 1391640176 663701 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the spring < 1391640184 217817 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i don't know anything about it < 1391640196 875304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oslo in the summertime? < 1391640207 211320 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391640214 697581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hike < 1391640266 25341 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloke < 1391640289 970898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusing < 1391640706 737540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you < 1391640726 882191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed zzo38 talking about lighting things on fire < 1391640757 839918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm tire < 1391640759 814348 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know about monotonic functions between finite ordinals < 1391640768 321690 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. non-empty finite ordinals...........that changes everything < 1391640776 329849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe this is why i kept having those off-by-one errors < 1391641123 471479 :nooodl!~nooodl@61.97-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you 2 tired < 1391641233 880687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1391641278 766198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no matter where we are, we're always touching by underground wires < 1391641364 564849 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391641509 639806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`seen nathanator < 1391641510 270485 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /var/irclogs/_esoteric/????-??-??.txt: No such file or directory \ not lately; try `seen nathanator ever < 1391641513 862373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ack < 1391641519 252961 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391641851 81297 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: You're being a bit optimistic with that `seen ... ever bit. It's not going to work any better. < 1391641877 162112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ever the optimist < 1391641927 706423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it is ILLOGICAL to fill a room with foam" http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/140205.html < 1391642504 635458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Are the "who invented X?" CAPTCA questions on the wiki generated by parsing the articles or hardcoded? <-- hardcoded < 1391642520 986305 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Booring < 1391642832 562728 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who invented this sentence? < 1391642893 749084 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1391642931 319313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1391642931 944269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, and weetoflakes. < 1391642972 94252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/and .*/weetoflakes, and this sentence./' wisdom/tanebvention < 1391642973 466262 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391642976 978162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tanebventions < 1391642977 853782 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanebventions include D-modules, Chu spaces, automatic squirrel feeders, the torus, Stephen Wolfram, Go, weetoflakes, and this sentence. < 1391643057 464520 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1391643058 154344 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sentence? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391643093 871827 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >wisdom/this\ sentence 'This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it.' < 1391643095 333103 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391643117 244444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? this sentence < 1391643117 961607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This sentence was invented by Taneb. Taneb invented it. < 1391643165 144020 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? atriq < 1391643165 840477 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq or two < 1391643176 421425 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? taneb < 1391643177 231310 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb is not elliott, no matter who you ask. He also isn't a rabbi although he has pretended in the past. He has at least two backup keyboards, and five genders. (See also: d-modules) < 1391643251 519710 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/d-modules/tanebventions/' wisdom/taneb < 1391643253 137734 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391643321 275351 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1391643394 323400 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did Taneb invent Tanebventions < 1391643399 573451 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how many *backup* genders does Taneb have? < 1391643404 496357 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think boily did, shachaf < 1391643486 861439 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is invention transitive < 1391643511 865754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1391643728 664806 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? cellular automata < 1391643729 503091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391643732 547031 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? stephen wolfram < 1391643733 223376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stephen Wolfram is an esolanger with too much money and power. Taneb invented him. < 1391643908 28817 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391643945 814392 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esolang < 1391643946 471172 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolang? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391643986 123782 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? automatic squirrel feeder < 1391643986 800633 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automatic squirrel feeders are just feeders in the category of automatic squirrels. Taneb invented them. < 1391644016 303408 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? Go < 1391644017 63692 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go is a common verbal game programming language invented by the Germanic Taneb tribes in the strategic territories of East Asia. < 1391644345 101465 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391644371 875422 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391644635 893578 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391644713 801723 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, all. I'm working on designing a new esolang, and I'm running into some trouble. < 1391644729 979435 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some pieces are described here: ... < 1391644744 442277 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/4618/what-piece-am-i-missing-to-turn-this-idea-into-a-programming-language/4912#4912