< 1391731340 704205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rifers.org/03_numberguess/src/ < 1391731357 744710 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly what I want to see when I click to browse example source code for a web framework < 1391731444 847756 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391731951 657968 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391732361 628484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks enterprisey < 1391732532 453849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's trying to translate a cool concept to an enterprisey language < 1391732857 853574 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391733398 287727 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391733820 237806 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391733863 725728 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391733870 166501 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391735133 406439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scott aaronson sarcasts on science journalism (scroll to the MAGIC 8-BALL) http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1679 < 1391736060 104863 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily enough i saw him extensively quoted in some pop sci today < 1391736091 166331 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Help I am game programming in Haskell < 1391736092 562761 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lpaste.net/99581 < 1391736098 560630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i've been watching the status of parallel matlab jobs through windows task manager. < 1391736126 302217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well he was quoted in the thing he's blogging about, too < 1391736171 681642 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeh < 1391736188 368140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one i read was a basic "holy shit, halting problem!" thing < 1391736229 550061 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1391736238 534485 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :just noticed I've been writing my lambdas backwards < 1391736268 25665 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the end quote. something like "it's good to know electronic brains can't be perfect" < 1391736310 467360 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's with the "fmap Right"s < 1391736365 872073 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl, in theory I could instead do a Left thingy which would be treated as a sort of "missing value" error by netwire < 1391736761 594675 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i should figure out how people solve yao's millionaire problem < 1391737683 934314 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Smokers will need to fetch an older copy of cigarettes.txt from CVS after October 1st " < 1391737700 687100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it < 1391737701 913261 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1391737782 721923 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391738105 418088 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1391739145 909501 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391739583 203006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391739683 966245 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: you're no help < 1391741710 7309 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391741737 847075 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391741829 713224 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Stream b = SCons (b, Stream b) < 1391741834 453010 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why a tuple? < 1391741848 337498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather than two arguments to SCons? < 1391742161 541274 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fine, makes sense < 1391742976 789451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that this has nothing to do with execution. printFibN does not execute a print statement. No more than writing printFibN on a piece of paper will cause it to magically evaluate." < 1391743002 427782 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that will catch on as a description < 1391743022 527330 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like if it did, that would be some damn useful paper, though < 1391743939 405535 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone remember which language of ais523 is the one where there's like a table of memory cells and the only instruction is like copy the contents of that one to this one and jump to that other one? < 1391744026 613491 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: lol at that quote. "perfect" meaning "omniscient" I guess? < 1391744065 223773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :something silly < 1391744144 961950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By slaying the mythical loop snooper, Turing taught us that there are fundamental limits to what computers can do. We all have our limits, and in a way it's comforting to know that the artificial brains that we create will always have theirs too." < 1391744160 425936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :[whatever] brain is such a shitty word for computers, grr < 1391744631 420329 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"let's call the subset of computers which aren't brains [blah] brains! so the all computers are brains, yay!" < 1391744663 897571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's okay as long as [blah] is Matryoshka < 1391744742 606966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only because those are so sci-fi it doesn't matter. < 1391744846 512064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's my best reword: "it's good to know that things which are made out of stuff in this universe will always be incapable of doing things which are impossible in this universe." < 1391745159 541794 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no am I going to start watching these now? < 1391745161 210929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_3883136257&feature=iv&list=PL4NL9i-Fu15hhYGB-d0hmSWD1fcIvLvn1&src_vid=oOGJQD0WXkk < 1391745390 564422 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391746697 518595 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: a paper on occurence typing: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/racket/pubs/icfp10-thf.pdf < 1391746912 88593 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although really, the use of such predicates often makes me uncomfortable < 1391746920 804847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it indicates someone likely doing something silly < 1391747542 757350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly... or extraordinary? < 1391747678 432954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goggles do nothing < 1391749015 961675 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: ? < 1391749741 29755 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391751568 295244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: OHSHIT NOT THE BLINKY TEXT < 1391751597 483599 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't show on this term, i really should fix this stupid thing < 1391751602 25577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean use something else. < 1391751758 140584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you do that again < 1391751925 282108 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^F < 1391751939 221616 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: term term term, wei wei < 1391751958 28577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391751968 339199 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1391751973 402576 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet. < 1391751992 145718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too bad you can't adjust the phase < 1391751999 714929 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sawtooth wave < 1391752080 379212 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably some term somewhere that let you feed analog functions to the monitorssss < 1391753340 414205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god not this again < 1391754602 830850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391757139 153650 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391757153 927092 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391757256 681184 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391757752 166993 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1391757902 181006 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391757981 947501 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Changing host < 1391757982 132370 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1391758286 162444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391758294 931339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1391758321 475241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to see the VISIBILITY, it is very FOGGY here. < 1391758605 240217 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 070720Z 12005KT 0200 R04R/0550N R15/0375N R22L/0550N R04L/0500N FZFG VV001 M03/M03 Q1003 TEMPO 0600 < 1391758679 517770 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So FZFGgy. < 1391758701 170071 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ask dirac for the weather. dirac is online usually and prints human-readable weather. < 1391759131 688159 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391759501 744785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION !important; < 1391759572 116096 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just something about them METARs. < 1391759679 142623 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Amazon has a Kindle edition of The Reasoned Schemer, but B&N doesn't have an epub version < 1391759693 655396 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that going to be a trend, or is that just me rationalizing having gotten a Kindle? < 1391759728 672444 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote metar < 1391759729 576269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :994) metar lead to canada, more metar and cows < 1391759973 26256 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391760265 903817 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1391760380 734248 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1391760453 893697 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391761081 898745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make: stat: GNUmakefile: Transport endpoint is not connected" huh < 1391761098 25098 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's just a disconnected sshfs thing, never mind. < 1391761430 924480 :w00tles_!~w00tles@h202.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391761454 532173 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391762257 628528 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay ResPlicate page posted < 1391762349 226185 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@109.163.230.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391768184 335472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391768388 869023 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391769611 824617 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391769771 76233 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I just found a ResPlicate sequence that goes 12850 cycles before deleting itself! how are you? < 1391769784 974507 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not doing great, but I'll survive < 1391769791 644439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's an interesting language < 1391769829 250330 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: feel better! < 1391769833 832101 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't "broken" it in terms of TCness yet, although my first thoughts are a) try to avoid the same queue element being used for both a length and a repeat count if possible, b) try to simulate a tag system < 1391769915 70959 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well that first condition is easy to meet. just make sure all the odd numbered elements of the sequence are even numbers :) < 1391769931 271044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yep, that's why I thought of it < 1391769931 451011 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that there is an even number of numbers in the sequence) < 1391769937 512350 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems trivial and make reasoning about the language much easier < 1391769969 494331 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems to do much more interesting things when you let them be odd :P < 1391770379 982244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: besides yourself, what's your short list of "esolang experts" < 1391770409 167335 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oerjan's highest on the list, he's better at it than I am < 1391770411 859718 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391770447 312516 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I improved your ResPlicate interpreter and am having so much fun I can't go to sleep < 1391770474 836882 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1391770487 783056 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: really? I would have had a tough time deciding between you two. And maybe John Conway also. < 1391770501 687864 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw i think Resplicate looks better than ResPlicate < 1391770510 242016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO LATE < 1391770552 91298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, the problem with trying to program in ResPlicate is that you don't have any external source of data, copying is the /only/ way to make the string longer < 1391770608 61532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. if you want a number in there, you better start with it in there. < 1391770654 281256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to keep it in there too. that's even harder. < 1391770730 655309 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the sequence family 6 3 10 1 6 2 2k+1 1 is amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing. try it! < 1391772303 141978 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1391772645 539983 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't see the pattern i think < 1391773283 133164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: there's no pattern! that's what's so great! most of them delete themselves, some of them become all-twos, and a few grow. < 1391774332 153816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391774716 176395 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391775211 222844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : sounds like if it did, that would be some damn useful paper, though <-- note to future logreaders: back when this was written, most paper was _not_ ... heck we haven't even decided what to call it yet. < 1391775260 497141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, google and wikipedia were most unhelpful. < 1391775278 543406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's just called smart paper. < 1391775283 589102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1391775290 249368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have a plan for proving resplicate TC already, not sure if it works or not though < 1391775296 481124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :future logreaders: see fizzie ^ < 1391775313 416213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Source: Neal Stephenson, "The Diamond Age".) < 1391775377 930480 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i could already visualize how a tag system might be shaped, but it wasn't readily apparent how to do some parts of it < 1391775384 205038 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm ready to hear what you've got < 1391775391 618589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not ready to explain it yet though < 1391775426 974015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i'll go back to not sleeping and reading about bytebeat < 1391775448 409935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things I'm bad at is converting thoughts into a medium that other people can understand < 1391775457 119284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can normally manage it eventually, but it takes a while < 1391775487 561982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it seems similar to Self BCT? although with the ability to handle somewhat larger sequences in one step. < 1391775505 177895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not really, doesn't self BCT have two pointers? < 1391775519 549106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe. < 1391776208 180147 :w00tles_!~w00tles@h202.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391776361 327145 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391776500 210801 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1391776765 722955 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1391776848 781098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i cannot compete with conway, i've fought him and lost. < 1391777155 52054 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391777396 558373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Authors retain the right to use the accepted author manuscript for personal use, internal institutional use and for permitted scholarly posting provided that these are not for purposes of commercial use or systematic distribution." "Systematic distribution means: policies or other mechanisms designed to aggregate and openly disseminate, or to substitute for journal-provided services --" < 1391777515 457009 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this why faculty websites always look unsystematic < 1391777547 929210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1391777596 552164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also any "Institutional, funding body or government manuscript posting policies or mandates that aim to aggregate and openly distribute the work by its researchers or funded researchers", no matter how haphazardly implemented, count as "systematic distribution". < 1391777659 90600 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :researchers or funded researchers < 1391777679 909430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I noticed that too. < 1391777825 786180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could imply that it considers policies that apply to researchers, or policies that apply to funded researchers. (As a corollary, a policy that applies to "all researchers except this one guy" would then not be systematic distribution.) < 1391777986 181319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "loophole" person, whose work would not be included, could be an annually changing position.) < 1391778087 782198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391778162 106351 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1391778286 250955 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391778556 95043 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391779217 10503 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable021.247-226-192.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391779339 511927 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391779347 33707 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good unmechanical morning! < 1391779356 760248 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1391779357 214325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 14h 19m 41s ago: `learn now removes english articles hth < 1391779367 540836 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shiny! < 1391779373 944256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supershiny. < 1391779397 662319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why don't you do an AI-complete fact database thing? < 1391779398 174921 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: this is too stupid to talk to my roommate this fall who's into public sex, lose any aesthetic sense as it is < 1391779411 270324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1391779454 199307 :itsy!~digital_w@79.251.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1391779481 256043 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... actually a sensible reason. < 1391779503 239056 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess even bots can be affected by public sexing roommates. < 1391779566 651033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit puzzled about it, though, since fungot's hardware is in our apartment, and we're not into public sex at all. < 1391779566 830506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes. but not planning writing actually.)) be () < 1391779681 621980 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we're not in the Fall season yet. maybe fungot's planning to go study abroad or something? < 1391779681 802732 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when placed on each < 1391779691 295909 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: on each what? < 1391779691 522491 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: finally a sane network topology with the firewall physically between local network and internet... no esoteric) < 1391779719 707630 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that confirms my theory. he's going to MIT to study network topologies between firewalls. < 1391779747 869029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Have you been sending fake student exchange applications again? < 1391779750 287886 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ar. < 1391779753 779917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ^ < 1391779754 36309 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: something like fnord should execute the handler, so it would be < 1391779975 438492 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, me neither. I didn't send fake student exchange applications again. < 1391779993 277860 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: nothing is like fnord. < 1391779993 817764 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: what is your native language?)... that made it difficult. < 1391780002 813978 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: French. I know it makes everything difficult. < 1391780003 194106 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: last time what? scheme hardly has any guterals, although the universities now have changed to an ascii value. < 1391780010 645930 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck guteral < 1391780010 943399 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1391780022 114892 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. what is a guteral, and its ASCII value? < 1391780032 142691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a misspelling of guttural < 1391780047 406269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed scheme has none < 1391780279 574570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gutenberg" would be a good unit for amount of written text. < 1391780296 820466 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pharyngealizes C0 and C1 codes “FF US NUL GS OSC *cough*” < 1391780313 964923 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Gutenberg equals the amount of material in Project Gutenberg. Er, except now that I think of it, it's not a very stable unit. < 1391780517 749669 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391780529 967754 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391780695 957490 :w00tles!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391780700 765204 :w00tles_!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391780781 697885 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whell00tles. < 1391781434 157998 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391781506 546187 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1391781517 349814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: did you accidentaly lambdabot? < 1391781534 363255 :w00tles_!~w00tles@h199.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391781658 212581 :w00tles!~w00tles@h202.natout.aau.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1391781679 52099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391782557 866322 :w00tles!~w00tles@h202.natout.aau.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391783661 137339 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh JOIN :#esoteric < 1391784635 234900 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391784731 477610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I hear fungot's going abroad < 1391784731 733810 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: are you even asking me this? snakes fnord with human evolution? somewhere in between them < 1391784776 416060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very knowledgeable in biology, I hear < 1391784898 883624 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391784955 247572 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine told me today that I am now in the Turing tarpit. I had to google that up to realize that I'm on the right track with SPAM/1 ^__^ < 1391784957 710307 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome utkarsh < 1391784958 550286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09utkarsh: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1391784980 168727 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jellohnnie! good tarpitual morning! < 1391784981 831250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: tarpits are a large category of esolangs < 1391784986 303669 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Johnnie < 1391784987 654733 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Johnnie is Fri Feb 07 09:59:36 2014 < 1391785000 937425 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one of the categories that more commonly produces interesting research < 1391785005 174795 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had forgotten it's a global community. < 1391785026 704370 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Had no idea, but I'm gathering this is a really good thing. < 1391785030 949482 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: I think I can ask you the The Question: what are your approximate geographic coördinates and body weigh? < 1391785045 816795 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello everyone < 1391785052 764033 :utkarsh!utkarsh@unaffiliated/utkarsh PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup < 1391785058 597612 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soup. < 1391785070 716916 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...body weight? < 1391785107 350511 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you typoed The Question < 1391785120 834285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it's an interesting question, IMO < 1391785139 792501 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did? < 1391785154 197664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Johnnie: no, you did nothing wrong < 1391785163 48771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just a stupid meme that I'd love it if it had died ages ago < 1391785173 940520 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought I did, ais523. I'm actually quite pleased. ^__^ < 1391785177 628313 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's actually meant to be body weigh < 1391785179 764053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when this channel is discussing esolangs, please discuss esolangs :_) < 1391785181 375128 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsvo "meant" < 1391785192 485235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott__: what's with the double underscore these days? < 1391785202 975551 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not worried about impersonation because I can tell it's you in two lines < 1391785208 527318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am a little confused < 1391785225 512139 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :My language, SPAM/1 is about technologies that died ages ago ^__^ < 1391785225 819691 :elliott__!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com NICK :elliott_________ < 1391785240 24914 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for my coords: 32°47′00″N 79°56′00″W < 1391785390 130399 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And body weigh....under two bags of cement. < 1391785440 271242 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using the hundredweight measurement) < 1391785570 754642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's far too accurate for me _not_ to paste into google maps. < 1391785588 583199 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only accurate to the nearest minute < 1391785602 447055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point < 1391785603 590873 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's okay, I snatched it off of Wikipedia. < 1391785627 516121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well it's pretty close to a college... < 1391785656 995036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a starbucks. < 1391785709 811764 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's funny! < 1391785731 639642 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd thought Wikipedia would use coords close to the Harbour. < 1391785756 291459 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia probably just rounded to the nearest minute < 1391785774 815431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much _is_ a minute anyway. < 1391785776 829861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :link for me to click on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/ResPlicate < 1391785790 559091 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 1/(60*360) of the Earth's circumference < 1391785805 748766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 40000/(60*360) < 1391785807 312079 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.8518518518518519 < 1391785830 393831 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at any meridian, it equals one nautical mile exactly < 1391785837 316007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :for latitude, anyway. < 1391785841 632940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1391785850 855544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A man wanted to talk to me about Jesus, at the bus stop in front of the CS building. That was *so* un-Finnish. < 1391785853 232726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says 1852m by definition < 1391785911 512580 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a nautical mile < 1391785923 444159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say the harbour is on the border of plausible rounding range < 1391785945 865464 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words: close enough. < 1391786031 755566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strangeish to put the seconds in after rounding to minutes, but maybe it's convention. < 1391786037 12665 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not a typo. it's traditionnal to write “weigh”. < 1391786058 959146 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you actively trying to drive me from the channel agin? < 1391786060 450524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*again < 1391786076 14078 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I figured out the goal for the Wiki. I have no intention of implementing SPAM. But I want to document it enoough that implementation is entirely possible. < 1391786081 952708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, even the Finnish, [...]" < 1391786091 619467 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...enoough?....too many 'o's. < 1391786124 550942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry, I was in a meeting, and I answered before seeing your other reply. I will esolang when esolanging is happening. < 1391786365 858826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm wondering how close resPlicate can emulate something Fueue-like, if you make sure all blocks have "statically" known lengths and you avoid explicit swapping (but maybe it can be simulated, like in underload) < 1391786400 417940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still thinking about ResPlicate < 1391786458 249766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the most minimalistic queue language we've had so far, i think < 1391786466 143165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea of creating a tag system, using a dictionary of all necessary rule-pieces that gets copied around (as multiple copies) at regular intervals so that the rule-pieces can be extracted from it < 1391786483 524499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hmm, it sort-of competes with http://esolangs.org/wiki/DownRight (and cyclic tag) for the title of "minimalistic queue-language" < 1391786589 930318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it has no program/data separation, which i think is a big boost < 1391786617 265740 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Norweigans ruled Britian under Cnut the Great and Sweyn Forkbeard...maybe the Finnish can rule the world under esolangs? < 1391786643 550285 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't Knut danish? < 1391786651 73874 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably was. < 1391786663 743676 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Again, I was reading Wikipedia. < 1391787010 49573 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1391787059 951356 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...fake diamonds that are glued to eyes of plastic cows?....I noticed that just now. XD < 1391787184 446231 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. I'm off. See everyone later. Have a good weekend < 1391787229 871383 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good spamming/1! < 1391787231 304785 :Johnnie!801771a4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.23.113.164 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391787785 863102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: program/data separation normally makes things easier rather than harder, but maybe not < 1391787853 362848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes of course, but it makes it less minimalistic. < 1391787896 567286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, my definition of "minimalistic" is "easy to implement in a range of ridiculously limited languages" < 1391788435 762748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...i think we shall have to agree to disagree :P < 1391788458 21704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that is of course useful too < 1391789072 7072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1391789163 235409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391789191 918299 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391789241 798409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1391789460 710608 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when every idea of a language has been invented, reinvented, mangled, modified and regurgitated; what left is there to do? create a new paradigm? < 1391789582 292173 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life's worthless, you mean to say? < 1391789611 205357 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@109.163.230.175 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391789621 419958 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle on IRC < 1391789691 958207 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm in a sense, yeah < 1391789730 152527 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391789821 853291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalem: creating new paradigms is what I really want to do < 1391789823 317739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard < 1391789841 619741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the best I've managed in that direction is http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload (which turned out to be pre-existing but niche) < 1391789893 913104 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we live in a world were even crab-based computing exists. it's hard to come up with something new. < 1391789899 850149 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391789939 704316 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah i've read that page multiple times. i bet it's a headache creating new paradigms, it's hard enough finding a good idea for a language. not to mention the amount of paradigms are getting to vast the possibilities must be getting drained < 1391789954 824108 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? crab-based computer? like live crabs? < 1391789967 335890 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1391789969 774349 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :language innovation wasn't that easy ten years ago, either < 1391789970 429410 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalem: http://techland.time.com/2012/04/18/crab-computing-the-future-of-computers-powered-by-crabs-wait-what/ < 1391789981 313234 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_________: it's getting uneasier. < 1391789982 346945 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1391789987 380154 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the future of computers" lol < 1391790013 338508 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shellokhin. long time no see! < 1391790035 490056 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yeah, lost my auto-join list and then never added this channel back :-) < 1391790035 669965 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 PRIVMSG #esoteric :an analog boid computer using crabs haha < 1391790069 250962 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: But, recently, got involved with some fun stuff involing a couple of norttis and a couple of esoteric languages, so got back here. < 1391790083 862077 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are multiples norttis??? < 1391790094 327511 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably; can't be sure. < 1391790094 507416 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1391790094 507555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you looking for? fnord/ fnord/ fnord < 1391791121 147088 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391791382 136239 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1391792013 933750 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone play with microcorruption.com ? < 1391792178 882066 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an english word similar to "want" or "need" that takes both a noun without preposition or a verb without "to"? or can that not exist because it would cause ambiguities between noun and verb? < 1391792251 545679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: hmm, I remember studying this sort of thing for grammartree < 1391792280 594303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needn't be a single word, it can be a phrase < 1391792288 743849 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want food" "I need food" works without preposition, but I think you need the "to" for verbs to make it "infinitive" < 1391792315 178220 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are verbs like "should" that don't take "to" < 1391792324 834941 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1391792332 626323 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: yes, after a verbs like that you usually need either a to-infinitive or gerund < 1391792332 923583 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they tend not to work with nouns < 1391792336 886311 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: exactly < 1391792352 110303 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "can has" take? < 1391792371 39825 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i can has catnip?" < 1391792377 65356 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“I want to food”. < 1391792378 576157 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means "can I have" in cat talk < 1391792394 852235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, verbs that appear in the portion of NetHack I converted to grammartree that take verbs without infinitives: can, had better, should, may < 1391792405 66325 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but what form of verb, as in "I can has go out" or "I can has to go out" or "I can has going out" < 1391792417 931130 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some verbs take participles, or possibly gerunds: stop, like, see < 1391792426 356475 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "can has" is lolcat speak, not actual English < 1391792439 817582 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it doesn't obey normal grammar rules < 1391792443 94232 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, it wouldn't suit me because of that, I was wondering < 1391792448 770156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check the lolcat bible < 1391792450 621608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in fact the grammar is mostly made up on the pot < 1391792452 150306 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*spot < 1391792459 66024 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1391792466 914004 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some sort of consistency < 1391792481 48921 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adb lolcat < 1391792483 70299 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=How_to_speak_lolcat and similar < 1391792613 756182 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right! grammartree < 1391792620 180738 :stalem!5eeaaa0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.234.170.11 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1391792622 897021 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whatever happened to that < 1391792648 634082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: we put it on hold because it was taking up all our time, we're planning to reintroduce it later but a bit at a time < 1391792661 46357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like originally reserve it for the bits that benefit the most < 1391792707 776534 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391792794 843070 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1391793214 990288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7451e31a-8f90-11e3-9cb0-00144feab7de.html wack, yo < 1391793282 175162 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It requires registration. < 1391793289 373429 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing wants me to sign up to read the article < 1391793291 769078 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be able to read 8 articles per month < 1391793324 839787 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they don't seem to do the nice thing of sending the webpage with an overlay covering the actual content < 1391793329 933091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ibm's thinking of selling their semiconductor division < 1391793332 16464 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you plebs. < 1391793384 895602 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1391793448 400762 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: did you accidentaly lambdabot? < 1391793455 53819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I didn't. < 1391793530 672401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just lost its connection to the server (aka ping timeout) < 1391793843 145115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah what should I have for dinner < 1391793847 812314 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something quick to cook preferably < 1391793876 160452 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I accidentally learnt pandoc when I wanted to learn rust < 1391793879 633502 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://runciman.hacksoc.org/~taneb/Fibs.pdf < 1391793896 12481 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :common mistake < 1391793921 75549 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a turkey. here's an instructional video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4FSew0vmUQ < 1391793976 882988 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :british thanksgiving is coming up, right < 1391793996 368396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Britain /has/ a Thankgiving < 1391794069 197265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a rude thing to say. < 1391794137 903985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if anyone wants to critique the rust code in that pdf feel free to < 1391794279 629705 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I still don't know what to have for dinner < 1391794609 908967 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: recently I've mostly been combining some sort of prepackaged chicken with some sort of prepackaged salad with some sort of prepackaged carbohydrate < 1391794618 38489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get a lot of variations out of that, and it's pretty fast < 1391794648 473257 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, are the west midlands 300 years into the future? < 1391794656 609177 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391794657 874457 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-16406.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1391794659 7649 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :can confirm < 1391795004 953347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: well a chicken salad sandwich is all three of those at once < 1391795015 351173 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not massively difficult to achieve < 1391795023 272025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't live on /only/ those < 1391795181 235046 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :man cannot live by chicken salad sandwiches alone < 1391795276 108173 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :this private-use character renders funnily in my font: '' < 1391795305 711988 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this font it looks like a solid circle < 1391795352 415076 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me it's a bunch of waves approx. 12 characters wide, which looks kind-of odd in a terminal < 1391795450 102692 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1391795456 315232 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1391795479 527316 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1391795671 876306 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1391795672 148631 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1391796055 549517 :aergus!~aergus@pptp-212-201-78-41.pptp.stw-bonn.de QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1391796072 738310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, it's a box. < 1391796156 75426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if I open the logs in a browser, it looks like... well, it looks like a very small uppercase A, on top of which (as a diacritic) there's a thing that looks vaguely like a small lambda. < 1391796223 211763 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zooming in reveals that the diacritic is instead a caret and a grave accent, stacked vertically, with the grave on top. < 1391796332 739383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Approximately ᴀ̂̀.) < 1391796407 908398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty nice letter < 1391796518 868468 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way in Unicode to say that "this following stack of combining characters should go vertically in this order, instead of being all on top of each other"? < 1391796715 470246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a character called Combining Grapheme Joiner, which can be used to block reordering of combining characters during normalization ("For example, -- [as] one way to maintain distinction between differently ordered sequences of certain Hebrew accents and marks"), but that's a different thing. < 1391796922 14167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And double diacritics (two-character ones, that is) will float over any diacritic marks of the participating two characters, but that's also different. < 1391797020 510999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you can put other diacritics on top of a double diacritic by following the double diacritic with the CGJ and a diacritic, but that's still not quite it. < 1391797944 228581 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back from lunch, and it diacriticise. < 1391797953 36332 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it also winds and snows outside. stupid weather.) < 1391797959 835661 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1391797960 428744 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071800Z 23021G28KT 15SM DRSN OVC035 M08/M13 A3011 RMK SC8 SLP197 < 1391797972 51516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFHK < 1391797972 642393 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFHK 071820Z 13010KT 0800 R04R/P1500U R15/0900N R22L/P1500U R04L/P1500U FG VV002 00/00 Q1002 NOSIG < 1391797983 683925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our FZFG has turned to plain old FG. < 1391798022 307833 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been a very foggy day, however. < 1391798045 78905 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're also suffering from 0800 and chronic VV002, it seems. < 1391798064 979574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a note in the news that there's been delays at EFHK. < 1391798072 108942 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ground visibility: 800 m or 1/2 mi, vertical visibility 20') < 1391798086 51896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :20' sounds like not a much. < 1391798140 807382 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm checking the units. I'm currently doubting it. < 1391798200 129516 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :200'. missed a magnitude there. < 1391798244 243503 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ESSA < 1391798244 629167 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESSA 071820Z 13014KT 5000 -RA OVC006 02/01 Q0990 R01L/29//95 R08/29//95 R01R/29//95 TEMPO 4000 -RA < 1391798460 766610 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plenty of light rain? < 1391798483 240858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like so. < 1391798529 916236 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why there's two -RN's there < 1391798535 516207 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, -RA < 1391798559 762783 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first is a regular -RA, the second is a TEMPOrary change. < 1391798568 863046 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1391798622 264203 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have -RA, and light -RA with 30% lest fat. < 1391798625 626440 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you call people who read METARs METARologists? < 1391798653 815904 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? boily < 1391798654 531355 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily is the brother of Roujo's brother and he's monetizing the company Roujo works at, or something Canadian like that. He's also a NaniDispenser, and a Man Eating Chicken. < 1391798700 98268 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn boily is monetizing a broterhood scheme with the Guardian of Lachine. He's also a NaniDispenser, a Man Eating Chicken and a METARologist. < 1391798701 753674 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1391798790 769162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :A broterhood scheme, you say < 1391798802 207619 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Pouti and Roujo. < 1391798854 500581 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar BIRK < 1391798854 901420 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIRK 071800Z 01011KT 9999 FEW020 02/M01 Q0978 < 1391798882 425675 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIRK? < 1391798892 120566 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. BIRK. < 1391798974 975988 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: visiting iceland? < 1391798987 997271 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, just curious about the weather there < 1391799410 364452 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391799452 195736 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391799687 379294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL the Perl CGI module contains some kind of wacky (and not very good) DSL for outputting HTML code (rather, XHTML 1.0 only) < 1391799744 812725 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I updated my house's accounting system (a venerable Perl script) to output nicer-looking Bootstrap-y HTML < 1391799883 134298 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1391799890 678000 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this fascination with Bootstrap by everyone? < 1391799905 814267 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's so good in it < 1391799907 277725 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1391799918 52208 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes a page look decent with very little effort < 1391799928 829874 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more specifically? < 1391799935 79098 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "look decent"? < 1391799943 498398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :more readable, more pleasing to the eye < 1391799957 429830 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like shiny stuff marketing asks for? < 1391799962 821783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you doing this page for yourself? < 1391799965 217433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what crawled up your ass < 1391799968 686117 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/shiny/shiny bling/ < 1391799973 130349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :U CARE AESTHETICS U NO REAL PROGRAMR < 1391800004 570166 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I don't mean to be so negative, there is probably something bootstrap does well, I just don't know it and I'd like to find out what it is < 1391800014 606150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"make it nice" doesn't seem like something that would make you use it alone < 1391800035 870475 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I'm not a web designer so I can't describe specifically the aspects which make it good design, but I appreciate the result < 1391800045 14490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely a few things like better fonts and good spacing are obvious < 1391800050 997907 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bootstrap has a 12-column grid. granted, nearly all starting bases have them, but bootstrap does some aggressive marketing. < 1391800068 952384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a programmer and so I delegate design things to professional designers, and importing Bootstrap is a no-effort way to do that for small personal projects < 1391800071 959342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not do it? < 1391800085 825787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I need a super strong reason to use it? it's one line of HTML < 1391800090 766223 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, if that's all it's probably not something made for me < 1391800104 591898 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like columns. < 1391800117 596991 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :another specific thing it does that's useful in this context (accounting) is the thing where alternating rows of a table are shaded differently < 1391800123 758045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when you hover over a row it's shaded differently still < 1391800138 794280 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ok, now that's something specific I can understand < 1391800158 406287 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it's just like a few lines of css, but yes, it's good that a framework handles taht < 1391800194 334177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the problem is probably that I don't like "frameworks" in general < 1391800199 926625 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you can get something with a few fancy flashy gradients and buttons and stuff with little effort, I don't see why not < 1391800213 898930 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391800243 118374 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: because I don't want fancy gradients. I'm old school in typography and believe that text should be put on a uniform colored background only. < 1391800276 222074 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't do fancy flashy gradients < 1391800290 166681 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very simple clean design < 1391800294 634310 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"flat design" is the fad now so it's even simpler < 1391800308 586352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's also why I don't understand people using transparent windows, esp transparent menus and transparent terminal windows, or terminal windows with backgrounds < 1391800313 716542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://getbootstrap.com/css/ http://getbootstrap.com/components/ < 1391800334 888095 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I admit that I also don't like frameworks in general < 1391800422 934534 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootstrap also makes responsive layouts easy and you can be p. sure that it works everywhere without testing it everywhere yourself. < 1391800447 20063 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I like columns. < 1391800493 372323 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Me too, except when using a very narrow display. < 1391800533 912523 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I do the minimal terminals, minimal WM thing too < 1391800539 182671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: however the default unstyled HTML isn't "minimal" < 1391800546 85491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses a fucking serif font < 1391800555 58438 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in many respects bootstrap'd HTML looks simpler and cleaner < 1391800564 464556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not about fancy gradients and impressing marketing < 1391800593 10357 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: as for that, I do like serif fonts, but I decide about that in my browser settings. < 1391800597 266286 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if "design" is such a tainted word to your ultra programmer sensibilities then call it "information presentation engineering" or whatever < 1391800606 841360 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imho, it's very hard to achieve a nice formatting with serif fonts on a retro-lit display. < 1391800629 704169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i got to go < 1391800631 862063 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I make my browser forcibly override fonts in all html to a good serif font instead of letting browsers choose, but then I usually turn it back eventually except for some bad websites < 1391800650 367526 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: what are your favourite serif fonts? < 1391800667 341938 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: maybe it is if you're using small font sizes. I prefer large sizes < 1391800723 238078 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: sadly I don't really have any font I'm completely satisfied with. I would eventually like to design my own fonts, in like the next few decades, but for now I only have a good bitmap terminal font I've drawn. < 1391800742 321788 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in browser I usually use either bitstream vera serif or times < 1391800764 533582 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike times. I'm more of a palatino guy. < 1391800818 820197 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice example of serifed text → http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116443/new-york-citys-french-dual-language-programs-are-mostly-pointless < 1391800832 662336 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they use ‘Publico Text’) < 1391800853 209746 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually I think I do currently have the font forced on all websites in this browser < 1391801639 680571 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me, I haven't read ILT in a long time < 1391801659 40656 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ilovetypography.com/ that is < 1391802045 749903 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 'Thanks, boily! Thoily!' reads much better than 'Thanks User:Boily, Thoily!'. Here's one case where policy gets in the way of style. almost makes me want to delinkify it. < 1391802109 938229 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: pipe-link it < 1391802122 314307 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that like a rello? < 1391802170 207264 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks b_jonas < 1391802170 801111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, b_jonas. Thonas. < 1391802179 176441 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: we have bots for everything! < 1391802215 141932 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391802250 726994 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome evalj < 1391802251 543132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​13evalj: 04Welcome 07to 08the 09international 02hub 06for 13esoteric 04programming 07language 08design 09and 02deployment! 06For 13more 04information, 07check 08out 09our 02wiki: 06. 13(For 04the 07other 08kind 09of 02esoterica, 06try 13#esoteric 04on 07irc.dal.net.) < 1391802316 354509 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough colors < 1391802342 875730 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391802486 710279 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Quit: quit < 1391802806 827779 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: he did. then ais523 un-pipelinked due to wiki policy. < 1391802867 334370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it just me or did that last relcome say 'Forcthe' < 1391802881 225357 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it is you. fnord. < 1391802903 110540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the extra c disappeared when you spoke < 1391802913 7411 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :temprary rendering error < 1391802946 791008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: have you invented yucca yet? < 1391802952 229621 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we're all waiting < 1391803007 191613 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, not yet. as I said some time ago, I need to have a “fit of a stroke” of inspiration. < 1391803017 794274 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] consonants =: a.{~,66 98+/I.#:31324125 < 1391803018 197203 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |ok < 1391803038 941814 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once again I `relcomed a bot. < 1391803065 821798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj has no problems with that < 1391803068 919858 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in fact, there was a spark the other day when we were discussing undecideble sequences. < 1391803071 918058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, ping: relcome < 1391803072 172309 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, pong: relcome < 1391803075 546207 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you can't just wait for inspiration to smite you. you have to be thinking about esolangs in EVERY SPARE MOMENT < 1391803102 575016 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i wasn't there. what was said? < 1391803102 878540 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I like the feeling of beeing smitten. I stalk orc priests and hellwings. < 1391803119 899228 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: something about... eeeeh... I'm kinda having a blank here. < 1391803127 189886 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's related to the halting problem. < 1391803213 266198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 'stalking orc priests' is the metaphorical equivalent of thinking about esolangs ALL THE TIME < 1391803256 337752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks=: 3 :'''Thanks, '',y,''. Th'',''.'',~y}.~i.&0 y e.consonants' < 1391803256 726992 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: |ok < 1391803267 520452 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: trouvé! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_correspondence_problem < 1391803272 310290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'boily' < 1391803272 693442 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, boily. Thoily. < 1391803296 998217 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'Firefly' < 1391803297 356552 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, Firefly. Thirefly. < 1391803311 606266 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should this do for names like 'kmc' though? < 1391803316 315728 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel' < 1391803316 658898 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |value error: thanks < 1391803316 838531 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: | thanks'aaaaa something with a vowel' < 1391803319 815492 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'kmc' < 1391803320 90200 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: |value error: thanks < 1391803320 269588 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: | thanks'kmc' < 1391803337 113252 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thanks < 1391803337 833738 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1391803364 118275 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: try 'evalj load: b_jonas,' or something first. stupid bot defaults to separate states per nick. < 1391803366 959584 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'm having ideas. something MALBOLGIAN. < 1391803367 442138 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj, pwd: < 1391803367 732599 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, working session is b_jonas,#esoteric < 1391803382 518187 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj cd: , < 1391803382 790369 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, changed to ,#esoteric < 1391803383 434835 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas < 1391803383 663864 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, copied boily,#esoteric from boily,b_jonas < 1391803389 172447 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel' < 1391803389 519164 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: |value error: thanks < 1391803389 698803 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: | thanks'aaaaa something with a vowel' < 1391803391 150135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, the comma is needed < 1391803397 829922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas, < 1391803398 102118 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: say wut? < 1391803398 281366 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, copied ,#esoteric from b_jonas,#esoteric < 1391803404 194292 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :evalj load: b_jonas, < 1391803404 373755 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, copied boily,#esoteric from b_jonas,#esoteric < 1391803407 121432 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'aaaaa something with a vowel' < 1391803407 461868 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Thanks, aaaaa something with a vowel. Thaaaaa something with a vowel. < 1391803425 301549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am scared < 1391803440 770219 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: whatever it is, we should be able to talk to metasepia in it < 1391803443 784090 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'kmc' < 1391803444 213754 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, kmc. Th. < 1391803448 698233 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :] thanks 'evalj' < 1391803449 141788 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Thanks, evalj. Thevalj. < 1391803471 313616 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think 'Thevalj.' is right. Isn't that sort of how pig latin works? < 1391803478 722317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not good in these English language games < 1391803488 706648 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: of course. I'd like to have it understand aubergine also. < 1391803513 746297 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Name_Game is more relevant than pig latin? < 1391803648 783547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think pig latin cuts up and reorders stuff < 1391803708 882543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't know what it should give for a nick with only consonants < 1391803712 177911 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like kmc < 1391803756 896249 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks kmc < 1391803757 482655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, kmc. Tmc. < 1391803766 965175 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: ↑ that's one possible solution. < 1391803769 553634 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ok < 1391803792 983961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: post seems pretty cool < 1391803838 798477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it should be WrItTeN In iN aUbErFGiNe < 1391803858 183238 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh stupid lag echoing backspaces instead of doing them < 1391803891 24090 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you squished an ERF in my aubergine. < 1391803966 355663 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :gihvjck < 1391803978 756719 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine it the way it looked to me before udp mangled it < 1391804099 967824 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling guterals won't help you there, you Infamous Squisher. < 1391804154 179782 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think I'm still going to go a step further than that. something more... arduous. tortuous. painful, like a stubbed toe on a rabid stove. < 1391804166 137618 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1391804170 711561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been done < 1391804182 178798 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks strong < 1391804183 299760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, strong. Thong. < 1391804201 323966 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: beuh. < 1391804223 184871 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: make something that is a JOY to program in! even more than aubergine! < 1391804287 593232 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. so, pain inducing, but more like a quality hot sauce where you put your tongue on fire and your brains on dopamines? < 1391804398 127258 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, is there yucca flavoured hot sauce out there? I'd buy a bottle of that if thausible.) < 1391804547 601132 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Hanks < 1391804548 280429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Hanks. Thanks. < 1391804639 879326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://honest-food.net/2011/06/15/eating-yucca-flowers/ there's this at least. your language should be like eating fried flowers with hot sauce < 1391804662 85805 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1391804668 843667 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are tempting me. < 1391804677 309431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: fire flowers? as in super mario ones? < 1391804697 641607 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oens that make you powerful < 1391804725 921176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, flowers tend not to shoot fire in real life < 1391804733 19318 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are plants with projectile weapons, though < 1391804784 304903 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you broken resplicate yet. we're all waiting :P < 1391804821 460163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no, I need to spend overnight I think < 1391804827 413733 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't concentrate when I have Internet access < 1391804832 580145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why most of my BF Jousting is done offline < 1391804834 104408 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance < 1391804848 33098 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D i understand < 1391804881 152427 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION EMPs the area around ais523  < 1391804901 85317 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the flowers that shoot fire < 1391804912 381902 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's super mario that shoots fire after he takes a fire flower < 1391805032 39860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: careful not to destroy my laptop < 1391805048 180216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: the flower itself shoots fire in Smash Bros. < 1391805087 205999 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i focused on isp hubs and cell towers < 1391805100 945171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm < 1391805110 344361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can ignore the cell towers, I don't have any sort of cellular equipment < 1391805120 108336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then I wouldn't be able to concentrate /ever/ :-) < 1391805176 321524 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mario games also have flower-like enemies that duck in and out of pipes, some of which shoot flowers, but I don't know what those are called < 1391805210 799348 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to know their names < 1391805240 181813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gb super mario 2 has cannons instead of flowers only I think < 1391805243 69859 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1391805253 537269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1391805261 1345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cannons don't duck in and out of pipes < 1391805263 289413 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno < 1391805272 302514 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mariowiki.com/Piranha_Plant ? < 1391805283 45821 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: piranha plants I think < 1391805303 772495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the canons duck in and out of pipes on super mario land /1/ < 1391805308 811574 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :piranha plant or packun flower < 1391805316 616136 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/2/ has piranha plants, like in the NES and SNES games < 1391805325 623452 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fire shooters are venus firetraps < 1391805327 373362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, didn't mean to italicise the2 < 1391805331 381624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* 2 < 1391805346 797565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually from that wiki http://www.mariowiki.com/Venus_Fire_Trap is the variant that shoots fire < 1391805382 822100 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray we are all good at googling < 1391805391 29622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I'm doing this from memory < 1391805394 125958 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what's the black cat-head-like thing in gb super mario 1 that ducks from pipes and shoots horizontally moving bullets? < 1391805407 663921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I said, learning about computer games I've never played is one of my hobbies < 1391805409 821587 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't google, I just clicked on a link from the Piranha Plant article < 1391805412 643796 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, I have actually played SML1 and 2) < 1391805418 840008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and completed both of them) < 1391805422 801880 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have played both, but sml2 much more < 1391805444 85276 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't completed sml2, but I've done all but the wario level < 1391805450 953487 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wario level turns out to be too difficult to me < 1391805455 1373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned < 1391805460 414631 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an order of magnitude harder than anything else in the game < 1391805460 594453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION aims at birdo at ais523. "beat super mario sunshine or you get the egg!" < 1391805473 131301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1391805484 389937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: for quite a lot of it, memorization helps < 1391805501 636014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also recommend grinding lives (or coins to buy lives) so that you don't have to go and refight all the bosses when you screw up < 1391805507 881273 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason why sml2 is easy is that you get lots of retries because it's really easy to get lots of extra lives < 1391805516 897269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1391805531 1615 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I continuously had over 90 lives when playing < 1391805539 593222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the wario castle is long < 1391805549 800366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, long and no checkpoints < 1391805556 414484 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first room is the second-hardest room in the castle < 1391805568 892099 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's nice of them < 1391805571 705199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to finish it anymore, but I would like to finish commander keen 2 < 1391805576 786478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, hard room first helps < 1391805578 310145 :metasepia!~metasepia@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe6c:6765 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391805583 9315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hardest room is like halfway through < 1391805597 389476 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've finished all other commander keen games (on easy level at least), < 1391805602 373218 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm stuck in ck2 < 1391805605 261177 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1391805608 629176 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ck3 I'm stuck in < 1391805612 253150 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done ck2 < 1391805618 105293 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the confusino < 1391805619 398723 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to wipe and clean and nuke and polish and apply febreeze to my machine. < 1391805624 864064 :boily!~boily@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: NUCULAR CHICKEN! < 1391805642 155683 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, that sentence is leaving me with cognitive dissonance < 1391805652 45270 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, I could finish those too only because of infinite lives you get by saving after each level < 1391805656 207520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because half of it is ambiguous, and the other half gives mixed signals as to how to interpret it < 1391805664 837980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, in the second series, in the middle of levels too < 1391805694 889442 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find ck5 the easiest by far < 1391805707 229290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1391805717 245165 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, ck5 < 1391805720 597379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix them up < 1391805726 190674 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about the commander keen series < 1391805773 185103 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what you should know is that ck1..3 is completely different from ck4..6. < 1391805789 456598 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, this is not very much information because I don't know much about /either/ series < 1391805820 521783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ck1..3 has more different (and imo more difficult) controls (reacts slower, sort of like prince of persia), different graphics (smaller tiles), different rules (can't save during levels), different level design < 1391805891 241402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also older and targets earlier computers, so the graphics isn't as good (simpler tiles, horizontally scrolls only in multiplies of 8 pixels so it works on EGA or something, which makes it sometimes jerky). < 1391805892 121652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I don't even know what genre this is < 1391805984 373235 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a 2D platformer where you control a single superhero, the young (8 year old or so) Commander Keen, who dies from a single hit but has a pistol he can use to kill or stun most enemies (limited number of shots in ck1..3) < 1391806000 673236 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a pogo he can use to jump bigger but more difficult to control than normal jumps < 1391806012 355544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm right < 1391806013 801431 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.shikadi.net/keenwiki/ is the wiki < 1391806041 872304 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this doesn't really sound like the sort of game I enjoy < 1391806043 137686 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ck4..6 has lots of secret areas, mostly invisible passages inside walls, but sometimes just places that are hard to reach < 1391806060 105566 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i'm playing commander keen as we speak < 1391806065 473766 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1391806068 333228 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite enjoy ck4..6, enjoy ck1..3 somewhat less but now I'd like to complete it < 1391806081 545353 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: high five < 1391806092 558225 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: the important question is, is it in {1..3} or {4..6}? < 1391806096 412136 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ck5 < 1391806105 897549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(NB. I've never played any CK game either) < 1391806136 732947 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doing speedruns. very fun < 1391806153 24614 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Keen3Gameplay.png nice colour palette < 1391806204 141814 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to do a full 100% run at some point. ck5 speedrunning is aaaactive, ish, but everyone skips through the game with a glitch, even though the levels are very fun < 1391806246 433824 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: by 100% run, you mean no death and no save? < 1391806256 399288 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean beat all the levels < 1391806258 969510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1391806263 925342 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's easier < 1391806264 843103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: 100% means you achieve all the goals of the game < 1391806275 589487 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, for "beat all the levels", the normal terms are either "all levels" or "warpless" < 1391806285 929630 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want to reach all the secret places in levels and the secret level and all the hidden items too, even the really difficult to get extra lives? < 1391806286 188154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warpless means you don't skip levels, all levels means you do all of them < 1391806296 55268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the difference mostly being when you have a choice of which level to take < 1391806299 909187 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-57-25.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks to be a standard PC color palette, I think < 1391806302 667848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in warpless, you can pick either of them < 1391806309 503633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all levels, you do one, then go back and do the other < 1391806309 709366 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"warpless" and "all levels" differ one level in keen 5 < 1391806310 737067 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, some commander keen games have optional levels or choices between levels < 1391806311 770560 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.127.188 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the secret level) < 1391806334 433290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to go for all levels except the secret level, that's how I did ck{1,3,4,5,6} I think < 1391806351 637338 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I definitely cannot reach all the hidden places in all levels < 1391806366 265623 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want all levels because that's how I get the most fun from the game < 1391807081 120021 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-63.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1391807265 725849 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391807270 332123 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.243.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391807292 935931 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1391807562 362616 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1391807562 607194 :spiette!~spiette@modemcable021.247-226-192.mc.videotron.ca QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391807574 187523 :yubisaylozada1!~canaima@186.167.243.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391807639 984834 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.243.130 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1391807781 405138 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391807809 960867 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiping the machine. < 1391807880 330735 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1391808050 506014 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391808148 546874 :yubisaylozada1!~canaima@186.167.243.107 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1391808155 290305 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quien habla en espaol < 1391808162 758158 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido yubisaylozada < 1391808163 581102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yubisaylozada: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1391808200 697903 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls bin/tervetuloa < 1391808201 426993 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access bin/tervetuloa: No such file or directory < 1391808216 457993 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's a factoid < 1391808218 812988 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ion: ☝ < 1391808220 262084 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :wisdom, I mean < 1391808223 666514 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? tervetuloa < 1391808224 413181 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervetuloa: ask shachaf < 1391808227 962009 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1391808228 305478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :B| < 1391808229 826990 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh. good enough < 1391808250 458258 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :does FireFly speak Finnish maybe < 1391808255 683270 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :'fraid not < 1391808271 637522 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from 'ei saa peittä' < 1391808289 662154 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should be "peittää". < 1391808301 54438 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie < 1391808305 955888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hizzie < 1391808316 836077 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hizzie" sounds like some sort of a rap thing. < 1391808319 94972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1391808367 260733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah. < 1391808396 371915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungotizzle < 1391808396 551705 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: s/ it's/ its/ < 1391808416 831156 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391808433 39276 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow thanks a lot fungot < 1391808433 247700 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but with " a" rant... it makes it harder for programs written in scheme < 1391808456 795936 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1391808505 655989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether yubisaylozada understands english, or is just smiling and nodding along... < 1391808601 72774 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1391808616 941324 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you might say the same about fungot < 1391808617 890059 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: try searching for " library procedure", on the same lines < 1391808619 231032 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :) < 1391808619 620578 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: apparently it's also from greek platypous, but i'm confused about continuations being used in so many ways. for example, < 1391808630 209437 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to suggest we should mention not speaking spanish in the welcome but... there it is < 1391808639 876163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah somebody added that < 1391808644 339642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody++ < 1391808656 803134 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja {deployment}:n kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric irc.dal.net:ssä.)” Help, what’s deployment in Finnish? < 1391808702 60622 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that bienvenido message has no color < 1391808721 405903 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: good point < 1391808725 27987 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :käyttöönotto? < 1391808728 993565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bienvenido b_jonas | rainwords < 1391808729 955227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07b_jonas: 08¡Bienvenido 09al 02centro 06internacional 13para 04el 07diseño 08y 09despliegue 02de 06lenguajes 13de 04programación 07esotéricos! 08Por 09desgracia, 02la 06mayoría 13de 04nosotros 07no 08hablamos 09español. 02Para 06obtener 13más 04información, 07echa 08un 09vistazo 02a 06nuestro 13wiki: 0 < 1391808738 157130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1391808748 660478 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1391808765 667620 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: length limit? < 1391808766 538583 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric : ​b_jonas: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: < 1391808766 858577 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey how do i set my locale < 1391808767 409716 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(16:56:23) kmc: huh < 1391808774 798760 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing question marks in irc is sad < 1391808776 406225 :boilyphone!~androirc@2607:fad8:4:6:3877:4762:2a27:91d5 QUIT :Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ) < 1391808813 298338 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only fun when they speak in spanish :/ < 1391808824 8881 :elliott_________!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :general they, here < 1391808830 338495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nevermind i found a wiki entry < 1391808876 105250 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that message in spanish or obfuscated spanish btw? it seems like it has too many long words. < 1391808877 192297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :typeof(*p) *elliott_________ = (typeof(*p)*__force )ACCESS_ONCE(p); < 1391808901 385132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: it's the consensus between Google Translate and my half remembered high school spanish knowledge < 1391808905 132538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus some edits by others < 1391808910 268643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1391808923 512404 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't actually have spanish speakers here? < 1391808945 506454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have any regulars who are fluent spanish speakers... but I'm not sure < 1391808961 698097 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that what "la mayoria de nosotros no hablamos espanol" means < 1391808962 41156 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmkay < 1391809012 466612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: what does the ":n" mean < 1391809058 463332 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn welcome.fi Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1391809060 426092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1391809091 57212 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It’s the inflection equivalent to “of ___”. < 1391809092 101777 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that message in finnish or obfuscated finnish btw? it seems like it has too many long words. < 1391809116 378621 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: well, i specifically wondered about the ':' < 1391809117 231467 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a difference? < 1391809145 356849 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1391809147 569215 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: It’s how you attach an inflection into something that can’t be inflected. < 1391809178 285088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 – kolme – three < 1391809186 119537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :3:n – kolmen – of three / three’s < 1391809259 708463 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1391809297 932849 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kolme yksin < 1391809298 585131 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM:n – IBM’s < 1391809323 224915 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :IBM:lle – for IBM < 1391809335 317696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck is there a keyboard layout called 'unicode'... < 1391809450 808040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you literally use a colon for that in finnish? weird/cool < 1391809457 72638 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You should improve my translation, esp. for “deployment”, kthx < 1391809506 511231 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you ever see someone write “IBM:s” in English shklee’s probably a native Finn. < 1391809508 828400 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hungarian uses a hyphen for that (and removes the period from before it if the word before ends in a period) < 1391809525 616306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The colon+suffix thing gets used wrong in many ways. < 1391809531 721861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo you might be interested in https://air.mozilla.org/incremental-parallelization-of-dynamic-languages/ < 1391809532 151688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1391809534 710363 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't watched it yet < 1391809549 469271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the colon, someone has suggested to use a dot < 1391809554 729283 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :erase that < 1391809570 105137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. it's "IBM:n" because that's read letter by letter, but "OPECin" because that's read as a word. < 1391809597 849400 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paamayim nekudotayim < 1391809604 169441 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the colon, someone has suggested to use a middle dot as a new punctuation mark in Hungarian to separate the subject (and words attached to that) from the predicate (and words attached from that) in ambiguous sentences, < 1391809616 428944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think we should use the colon for that actually. < 1391809621 514014 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swedish also uses : for ordinals (1:a, 2:a, 3:e for 1st, 2nd, 3rd) < 1391809628 288099 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1391809629 344669 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: IBM:n and OPECin are correct usage or they're the wrong usage you object to? < 1391809631 33106 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this one doesn't make sense in English, where that kind of ambiguity doesn't come up) < 1391809653 521396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: They're both correct. But different, obviously, since the other doesn't have a colon. < 1391809702 537556 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I can't really figure out a better word for deployment. < 1391809715 604295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: sigh < 1391809737 821306 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for abuse, the blogs http://www.apostropheabuse.com/ and http://www.apostrophecatastrophes.com/ have lots of examples where apostrophe is used in English to attach plural "s" to words < 1391809755 557074 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :often to abbreviations < 1391809806 223133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391809822 944113 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1391809823 806478 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1391809827 349079 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/\.es\>/.fi/g' /.fi/g' bin/tervetuloa && chmod 755 bin/tervetuloa < 1391809848 343444 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391809868 796864 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa Adolf < 1391809869 653660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adolf: welcome.fi Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1391809874 821814 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1391809887 880762 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1391809897 311989 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? bonjour < 1391809898 77973 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonjour? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1391809901 809451 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/welcome.fi // from taht output < 1391809916 926472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the wisdom file. < 1391809917 633548 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sed -i -re 's/^welcome\.fi //' wisdom/welcome.fi < 1391809918 335730 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ add the contents of script- < 1391809920 194568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is weird. < 1391809935 880414 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391809943 619010 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -re 's/^welcome\.fi //' wisdom/welcome.fi < 1391809945 185191 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391809951 821013 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tervetuloa Adolf < 1391809952 713533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adolf: Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1391809972 877013 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :better < 1391809981 352475 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :next up relvetuloa < 1391809996 135633 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rainbow is sateenkaari in Finnish hth < 1391810004 53295 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: um... does that make sense in finnish? < 1391810013 75679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not weird, it's just the way `learn has always worked. < 1391810014 705181 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :selvetuloa < 1391810052 218853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :tervekaari. < 1391810066 331693 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sateentuloa < 1391810077 422552 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish 12 < 1391810078 627294 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kaivaihtuvilta syrjistisemme venemienollisemmaksen finimittumalta hulluvinänsä lyömaaliseen hakeutuvinansa rastani raan keskuumanansa naisempientaisi naisemmalla < 1391810090 688573 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :rastani < 1391810103 643726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kaivaihtuvilta" is borderline okay. < 1391810119 491700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from the probably-changing" or some such. < 1391810126 702701 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh! is that some sort of stochastic model random generation? < 1391810135 924789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's character... trigrams? < 1391810138 979099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's trigrams. < 1391810149 840705 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made one of those once, a bit more complicated, < 1391810164 676016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then some separate word length model, I think. < 1391810167 193088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other languages does `words know? < 1391810171 715595 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1391810172 626514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1391810176 203417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --list < 1391810177 72042 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1391810184 28060 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It barely fits in the output. < 1391810192 262194 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane < 1391810193 220158 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mality < 1391810206 124073 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn’t that redundant? < 1391810215 923998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can interpolate between two, which is I guess fancy. < 1391810221 299781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --finnish --swedish 5 < 1391810222 307954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gruosiatriken sänsä tahandeintamilja isras firman < 1391810231 992849 :yubisaylozada!~canaima@186.167.242.1 PART :#esoteric < 1391810238 125644 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taught it the list of ~3300 Hungarian town names and made it generate a mix of random town names and real town names so you have to guess, < 1391810239 141392 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M 12 < 1391810240 600744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :defica ced tigl magnant spagne bellus dellslotoet remark coversigna inramound congd trailch < 1391810241 52207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite often the interpolation sticks to one of the models, unsurprisingly. < 1391810247 919214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is such a beautiful language < 1391810254 638277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 12 < 1391810255 508036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You're such a magnant guy. < 1391810255 864007 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tandenentalthar erung droismenais pannell tubenbau kelligio verrichtetermelz stavent argoverspretelloh infachgeselbuch importfreism far < 1391810260 53018 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :often it gave obviously fake gibberish, but it also gave good fakes < 1391810271 666291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --manx 12 < 1391810272 498645 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :corpoin aesa cad hagh cummalreas per glooagey grein cleayreyda anchoobalan aasaayn yn-least-chei < 1391810277 871435 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --canadian-english-insane --esolangs 12 < 1391810278 760638 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thulg stant [] snusplia pan intymphiloquiet thingy tage cal perpropoma () purphlor < 1391810286 332206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The esolang dataset is my favourite. < 1391810295 388319 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's esolang names from the wiki.) < 1391810300 159657 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --swedish --esolangs 20 < 1391810301 121579 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :suicerylan ist orkar threa surn carant tmmlpte um-32 ransion2 numstränktif thundskatterwangiva iotets inveyor pyrels ortfal drivar flykt keminius cirke pointinan < 1391810310 261153 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best fake it generated is Nemes, which is actually the Hungarian name for a town in Romania, so it wasn't in the input dataset < 1391810320 401718 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :thundskatterwangiva, eh? < 1391810331 844152 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --english --esolangs 20 < 1391810332 607529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1391810347 63621 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 < 1391810348 560111 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frak verix paxo bita mar etruelativenu bf-pda rssble splayne subskia pumpt mer inhydr mkblnk dobin ite pil dogranscrips pau bran < 1391810353 914318 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite from its output is Rúgonya though < 1391810357 279344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dogranscrips! < 1391810381 329090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read a story today that involved a doge and the meme fucked me up < 1391810393 326579 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for w in $(words --english --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done < 1391810394 291503 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown option: english < 1391810399 728517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for w in $(words --eng-1M --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done < 1391810400 680565 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tried to teach it to generate ordinary Hungarian text, but there the output is much more gibberish < 1391810401 366288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fercoin mencoin notcoin ovecoin hallycoin worlcoin tolmbacoin paxcoin abclarecoin geomegaplcoin whencoin valuscoin standfoocoin hattancoin wielcoin .yachiewcoin 0.75coin rssomskjcoin sentowcoin expenbecoin < 1391810418 467329 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mencoin? isn't that just bitcoin? zing < 1391810422 349571 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :notcoin < 1391810422 676776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Geomegaplcoins could be such a thing. < 1391810447 169149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'for w in $(words --eng-1M --esolangs 20); do echo -n "${w}coin "; done' > bin/coins && chmod +x bin/coins < 1391810447 661204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, a majority of them sound like plausible cryptocurrencies. < 1391810448 737073 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391810450 122767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1391810451 575215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :devlcoin 1cnigmantcoin braincoin orthcoin gorgicoin maginacoin pnruncoin crtoncoin koticurcoin verstanfpacoin full+coin lytejudecoin andypacoin starmocoin puzzellcoin hosphacoin wlucoin fityrdahlecoin anycoin chapycoin < 1391810468 535384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1391810470 152016 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :netweeumonodycoin 0.9602coin hanoldbcoin gasoignimalcoin monterwacoin tweensidcoin suellowfoocoin forcoin dzzzcoin gotoncoin hobbacoin kroecoin obarandcoin verationcoin probelcoin nuitabllcoin ctorcoin sessprocoin .boxcoin aaromancoin < 1391810485 509014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps working. < 1391810490 810413 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/\>/coin/g' < 1391810492 723126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incincoin chocoin ovecoin iihromodercoin insoncoin wertcoin ersioneranacoin divzcoin paxicoin adjustcoin vcoin rentacoin brillecoin beincoin qwertainspathogelycoin fannacoin vercoin brashmencoin coniacoin tyvercoin < 1391810502 786095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: much better < 1391810519 738616 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re '"'"'s/\>/coin/g'"'"'' > bin/coins < 1391810521 379449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391810523 576949 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1391810525 287946 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bentacoin platorylancoin homoucoin rcepticoin pithcoin timissecoin guadecoin penfernoncoin pongcoin tsedumbcoin glycoin tgcoin netwocoin cratumcoin 2dcoin-refcoin colnicoin nabcoin mcoin-codcoin parecoin modecoin < 1391810534 251071 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcoin-codcoin < 1391810575 248963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive coin < 1391810595 960672 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive < 1391810596 906288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :infuck < 1391810605 834610 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1391810630 445436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run espletive | sed -e 's/fuck/coin/' # workaround < 1391810631 576424 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :memcoin < 1391810645 859627 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough < 1391810665 504796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`espletive 20 < 1391810670 631184 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2050706 < 1391810782 375983 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' < 1391810783 948468 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woudrycoin quoiacoin cardcoin uniniftysnaicoin revergingcoin con-of-unbabtcoin ><>coin heicoin quotcoin morecoin entcoin perlincoin monozcand.nexcoin msgacoin cycliptcoin cufcoin workcoin braincncoin oversecoin leszecoin < 1391810846 897834 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run printf '%s\n' 'words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re '\''s/( |$)/coin\1/g'\' | tee bin/coins < 1391810848 562945 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words --eng-1M --esolangs 20 | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' < 1391810859 304371 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1391810861 269774 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cutanginencoin befuckencoin aldinguncoin zenocoin doniacoin gloversecoin genorcoin infiniscoin vertcoin ooooocoin parcoin poglyoncoin anocoin presonalcoin checoin leurcoin retcoin brakillicoin rainecoin whencoin < 1391810876 664547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befuckencoins. < 1391810883 188054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1391810899 83564 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1391810928 765849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Got any zenocoins on you? < 1391810963 893156 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :whencoin? < 1391810970 518395 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't seem like a safe investment to me < 1391810986 943759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, personally i'm going for thisisascamdontuseitcoin < 1391810987 705500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i somehow never manage to finish getting any < 1391811008 312993 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: make that scamcoin for short < 1391811018 797284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :scamcoin is totally distinct! < 1391811032 220290 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, scamcoin1.1 then < 1391811778 118574 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391811888 841668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: found a "useful" resplicate pattern < 1391811928 159678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which alleviates most of my doubts that it is TC < 1391811983 825298 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that pattern? < 1391812031 56123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 2 4 2 4 2 4 2 0 ? n 1 ...any n integers... < 1391812074 185717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's self-producing and allows embedding any data < 1391812093 982734 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that reminds me < 1391812124 116352 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the esolang wiki have entries for the three simple automata Smullyan has defined in his books? < 1391812137 612402 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, maybe I should write about them < 1391812141 204439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall < 1391812156 89423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i don't know smullyan's automata < 1391812164 996523 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's why I should write about them < 1391812198 925661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may vaguely recall someone writing something related on the wiki < 1391812230 324707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no hits for "smullyan" < 1391812304 596704 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :two of them are defined in the book ''The Lady or the Tiger'', one in ''The Riddle of Scheherazade''. < 1391812339 356528 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the three are very simlar, they're functions from digit strings to other digit strings, < 1391812371 684962 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :partial functions actually, with very simple rules, and often applied repeatedly with the question being whether it ever reaches a digit string not in the domain < 1391812422 728959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1391812476 952327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other questions are finding a quine (there is at least one for each automaton) < 1391812540 520867 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should write them up on the wiki later < 1391812604 428954 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reminded to this by this Resplicate < 1391812826 157413 :evalj!~jeval@54005E24.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391813257 844420 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1391813911 822217 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1391813945 432752 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1391814204 873403 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1391814503 989833 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-63.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1391816123 945832 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1391816241 774362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? welcome.fi < 1391816242 550573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tervetuloa esoteeristen ohjelmointikielten suunnittelun ja käyttöönoton kansainväliseen keskukseen! Lisätietoa saat wikistämme: . (Muu esoteerisuus: kokeile kanavaa #esoteric palvelimella irc.dal.net.) < 1391816340 720310 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1391816357 851599 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1391816622 194367 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1391816652 626326 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu PART :#esoteric < 1391817274 832770 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds