< 1393545651 686535 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393545726 982417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but I should have touched the file at least. mumble :) < 1393545963 232347 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393546378 159529 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393546389 764465 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1393547771 787998 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393547893 731800 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393547953 52638 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393547953 279012 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393547953 879769 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1393547993 183272 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1393548049 128627 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net 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:augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393550991 410620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393551336 717697 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393551530 690322 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1393551531 140039 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393551777 909486 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393551806 877373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393551813 214778 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393551821 50627 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393552883 295664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL you can authenticate to NickServ using a TLS client certificate < 1393552902 195490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use SASL. < 1393553349 694441 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I tried that but then i switched to le insecure plaintext communications (greetings to everyone sniffing this) because my client’s upgrade feature that doesn’t drop connections can not TLS. < 1393553389 52855 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A flying squirrel was encountered on the sixth floor of a Finnish university. Photo: http://yle.fi/uutiset/todellinen_yllatys_yliopistolla__liito-orava_lensi_kuudenteen_kerrokseen/7111732 < 1393553856 454756 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393555207 230253 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-52.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1393555246 215197 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-50-52.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1393555246 400534 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393555279 593489 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1393555427 224344 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393555909 138318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393555989 899577 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393556247 576121 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393556405 824095 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat http://www.reddit.com/r/Racket/comments/1z4ira/racket_psa/ < 1393556838 226407 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1393556855 714200 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393557161 18685 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393557648 953395 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393557832 764765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: heh < 1393557921 346985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why that was posted or what that has to do with anything < 1393557928 446385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know what's 'heh' about it, just... wat < 1393558075 338506 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393558087 808806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo "I don't even know why that was posted or what that has to do with anything" >wisdom/sgeo < 1393558127 711053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just overwrite my wisdom? < 1393558186 73769 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1393558198 982873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1393558205 231696 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: this fact is not fun < 1393558210 530187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 < 1393558606 946160 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393558961 263146 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still upset about [1,1] being a singleton list. < 1393558971 520004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O? < 1393558977 627918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ML < 1393558991 274648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that an ocaml thing, I don't know. < 1393558996 648970 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it , the operator? < 1393559022 559376 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: it makes a tuple. In Haskell it'd be [(1,1)] < 1393559082 246586 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1393559084 483426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And [1;1] would be a list of length 2. < 1393559085 258778 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :A list is [1;1]? < 1393559088 377408 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393559258 400340 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393559357 492774 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393560001 438337 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393560027 363270 :password2!~password@197.78.169.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393561492 832230 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393561986 852393 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393562185 309678 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393562250 318098 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393562250 625487 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393562347 947967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393562528 772432 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393562609 265352 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393562948 70666 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393562995 260623 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393563494 88507 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393563725 225739 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393563738 817754 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393563760 807119 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393563980 534340 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393563987 685472 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :”When you look at the ingredients, if you can’t spell it or pronounce it, you probably shouldn’t eat it,” < 1393564009 348555 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1393564015 418198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah! fuck science! < 1393564022 962242 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393564024 165251 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: That’s an excellent measure. < 1393564024 441558 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beyond the general silliness of that statement... I think many people can spell pretty much any word that they're looking at on a list of ingredients, at least while they're looking at it < 1393564050 710566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear they’re putting DHMO into many products these days. :-( < 1393564095 411807 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393564110 684145 :atriq!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393564119 766641 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393564124 608706 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1393564214 849175 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393564241 226485 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1393564261 721320 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393564523 683547 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393564531 241778 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393564560 110395 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393564570 262475 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393565113 820177 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd rather eat food from a farmer prepared by a chef than from a geneticist prepared by a scientist. < 1393565130 676659 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :science is good at lots of things.. but their optimization function on food is whack < 1393565164 596580 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a farmer relevant in this case? < 1393565178 255390 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about food from a farmer given seeds by a geneticist? < 1393565190 619215 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: i'll take the non-gmo right now. < 1393565195 502412 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in 200yrs i'll be fine with the gmo's < 1393565218 416451 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :early adopter gets the early worms < 1393565260 803021 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, i'm not anti gmo, but i'm pretty anti all the companies pushing gmos down peoples throats while trying to conceal as much information as possible < 1393565274 447801 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're optimizing profitability, not any useful utility function that i care about < 1393565282 177149 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 330 seconds < 1393565284 191329 :password2!~password@197.78.169.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 330 seconds < 1393565291 7527 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like flavor, or nutrition, for example < 1393565365 198598 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think companies are just trying their best to make the world a better place for you and me < 1393565368 335206 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1393565377 65728 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be so cynical < 1393565379 557767 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're ok, oklopol. < 1393565380 568968 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantity is a useful thing to attempt to maximize, and that gets accomplished at least partially, if not fully, when profit is being maximized for < 1393565401 733438 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: huh? how do you figure that profit and quality correlate. < 1393565412 815214 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantity. < 1393565417 276186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to complain aabout science food at least do something really bad, like factory farms < 1393565422 893797 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh quantity, my bad < 1393565440 652208 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quantity and quality usually do correlate < 1393565442 408020 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:08] < Sgeo_> ”When you look at the ingredients, if you can’t spell it or pronounce it, you probably shouldn’t eat it,” < 1393565449 588591 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although perhaps inversely) < 1393565462 259153 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: that seems like a reasonable thing to complain about ^^^ < 1393565472 800128 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true, i avoid durians, but not high fructose corn syrupt < 1393565481 76129 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :since most of the things you cant pronounce werent put there for anything other than preserving shelf life to increase profit < 1393565485 690828 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never remember the difference between inverse and converse. Just that inverse+converse=contrapositive which iff the original statement < 1393565490 255613 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to make food look artificially more appealing than it would otherwise < 1393565495 688046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mo like obverse, imo < 1393565515 241705 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: what, the frog fractions fruit? < 1393565534 187203 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's... an actual durain fruit < 1393565542 727755 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like normal cane sugar.. why we gotta go with the HFCS is beyond me.. but.. i bet in the long run we'll find HFCS is not so bad for us, but that the impurities left aorund in manufacturing perhaps are... < 1393565564 118147 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at any rate, no need to rush into being an early adopter of not-well-tested chemical foods < 1393565571 161557 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: lol did you seriously not know < 1393565598 365399 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I knew at one point then forgot < 1393565612 667167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/Singapore_MRT_Fines.jpg/471px-Singapore_MRT_Fines.jpg < 1393565627 223659 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Durians are not fine. Good to know. < 1393565635 969896 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some disgusting durian candy < 1393565661 582830 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i assume the fine is infinite < 1393565690 500911 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no objection to time-tested disgusting fruit candies < 1393565697 437801 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as they have been well vetted :) < 1393565723 284190 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you tell a good durian from a bad one? < 1393565737 239663 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if durians go bad do they start smelling good? < 1393565750 846175 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393565757 535284 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all bad because i can't pronounce the name correctly < 1393565789 3773 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :earle grey + durian == durian grey tea? < 1393565845 888552 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike++ < 1393565875 858482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i avoid jabuticaba in favor of nice simple niacinamide for the same reason < 1393565885 798673 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chemistry nomenclature is, imo, so easy. < 1393565895 407400 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fruits are all this weird foreign shit. can't deal w/it. < 1393565966 294697 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you eat an omena < 1393565967 665339 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, fruits are like, full of chemicals? i mean most of the time you can't even figure out their relative concentrations or they vary crazily between fruits, even from the same tree! it's insane. no way i'm gonna eat that shit. < 1393565974 163459 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://foodbabe.com/2012/07/30/why-its-time-to-throw-out-your-microwave/ < 1393565982 325470 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the same person who did the Subway thing? < 1393565983 209888 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike; avoiding fruits you cant pronounce also seems like a good policy < 1393565991 463069 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :stick with what you know.. never venture outside the bubble! < 1393565997 668628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right < 1393566010 36091 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but seriously the pronunciation thing is a stupid-ass rule. i'm out of sarcasm < 1393566031 974961 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :". For the experiment pictured above, microwaved water produced a similar physical structure to when the words “satan” and “hitler” were repeatedly exposed to the water. This fact is probably too hokey for most people – but I wanted to include it because sometimes the things we can’t see with the naked eye or even fully comprehend could be the most powerful way to unlock spontaneous healing." < 1393566047 54772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, science < 1393566091 773264 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393566144 867605 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they elaborate on "unlock spontaneous healing" < 1393566158 142409 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nature has a lot of chemicals in it in general. did you know that salicylic acid was originally found in a tree?? trees are just handing this stuff out! kids could get at < 1393566188 652390 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't even sue trees for unsafe practices. trust me, i've tried. < 1393566196 270246 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: eating stuff from a source you dont know that contains ingredients you arent familiar sounds like a reasonable cause for suspicion and caution to me < 1393566222 912434 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. We should be suspicious of such people. < 1393566228 169103 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again i still tink its neat that theres a guy who lives off eating only raw lambs that he slaughters himself < 1393566231 298878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only eaten food i know the source of a few times, since my family's house as a cherry tree. thus, i know for a fact it is 80% coyote shit by mass. < 1393566250 792804 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393566252 861365 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherries are 80% coyote shit? < 1393566258 73706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393566263 951610 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love cherries! < 1393566276 158846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you should have investigated where you were getting them first. < 1393566277 670322 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to put coyote shit into other fruits? < 1393566281 579125 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone offer to host the wiki so I can get out of this godforsaken channel < 1393566281 879590 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have that ultra expensive coffee that's shit through a civet first < 1393566288 593252 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kopi kopi luwak < 1393566299 134386 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's when you do it twice. < 1393566303 259050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes 4 ever < 1393566310 294948 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens if I eat an apple. Is the ingredient just 'apple', which I'm familiar with, or all the things that went into it? < 1393566321 691071 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what happens if I see 'apple' on another ingredient list? < 1393566325 293779 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How deep do I have to go? < 1393566330 729034 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i demand coyote shit be put on all ingredients lists < 1393566345 334335 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: if you want to make an apple pie from scratch you must first invent the universe < 1393566430 326792 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, ghcq implements orwell's telescreens < 1393566438 129400 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gchq even < 1393568535 829149 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393569379 464516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Garbage collection headquarters. < 1393569399 389896 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393569488 745136 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :While I agree that it is good practice to check input data in SQL queries, php stops those kinds of injections per default. https://github.com/BarrensZeppelin/ltglan/issues/1 < 1393569533 631610 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393569668 98381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393569737 730797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Let me guess, the uploaded fix is going to call some mysql_escape instead of using a parametrized query? < 1393569755 822796 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: In fact it seems it was. :-D < 1393569797 157734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1393569836 926956 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really understand why php.net's documentation on mysql_real_escape_string doesn't mention parameters. < 1393569882 335661 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in a late user-contributed note. < 1393569892 491270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Then again, this is the language with magic_quotes.) < 1393569953 105101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : A flying squirrel was encountered on the sixth floor of a Finnish university. Photo: http://yle.fi/uutiset/todellinen_yllatys_yliopistolla__liito-orava_lensi_kuudenteen_kerrokseen/7111732 <-- are you _sure_ that's not a pokemon < 1393570046 188472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something escaped from a manga somewhere < 1393570203 239894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it had been so silent the last days i thought the building craftsmen outside had finished their work, but no. (admittedly a car was suspiciously present.) < 1393570266 983280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i'm not sure craftsmen is the right word. < 1393570299 259932 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've done a lot of digging, sawing and hammering, though. < 1393570327 387372 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: https://github.com/BarrensZeppelin/ltglan/commit/071e9 < 1393570442 27075 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1393570450 517822 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, apparently it's norwegian too < 1393570462 728968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: what is < 1393570474 121058 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the PHP software with the bugs < 1393570483 937261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking :( < 1393570491 367456 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or possibly danish < 1393570529 666584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how to tell written danish from norwegian < 1393570543 496738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can if you paste some < 1393570564 964362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Opret en bruger og log ind først. :)" < 1393570571 280958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's danish < 1393570593 569272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian would be "Opprett en bruker og logg inn først. :)" < 1393570788 135671 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393570889 935803 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i think the general trick of "does it have single consonants where you'd expect double, and voiced consonants where you expect unvoiced" works for comparing with swedish as well? < 1393570991 329870 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno, I just read it and see if it's swedish or not < 1393571010 500240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to give you a method here, olsner < 1393571110 607901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, both have strange vowels to a swede, but danish has stranger consonants. < 1393571155 869652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a sense that is "soft" < 1393571173 185625 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you meant for norwegian vs danish? I was talking about swedish/other things < 1393571197 110721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's much easier :P < 1393571263 925578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just look for åäö and lots of a in the last syllable of words < 1393571300 611301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. æøå and nearly exclusively e < 1393571320 802012 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL danish :) is norwegian :) < 1393571328 963196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: shocking < 1393571334 128583 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why would i expect double consonants < 1393571339 962626 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think ck instead of kk is swedish too < 1393571369 816672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i am comparing to swedish/norwegian, so you do need to know one of those first < 1393571378 224115 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: to indicate vowel length < 1393571388 91876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yeah, also x instead of ks < 1393571405 403313 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: will english do < 1393571419 425167 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :old english might? < 1393571444 463764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: not very well, maybe for testing the other way < 1393571450 454981 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: is that what they speak in old york < 1393571472 454812 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :bruker < 1393571477 75424 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to guess that < 1393571479 72015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also nynorsk messes up the vowels again, the a test triggers on that too. < 1393571512 111152 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just make up your minds on that whole nynorsk/bokmål thing already? < 1393571554 116091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1393571683 357353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: but perhaps vaguely, if you have a commonly inherited word of the kind where english doubles the final consonant when adding an ending, then you would be more likely to find the consonant single in danish and double in swedish/norwegian. very vaguely. < 1393571723 736684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like english stop/stopping, danish stop, swedish/norwegian stopp < 1393571949 544141 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Agda safety: we last proved false on April 18th 2012 ." < 1393572004 293465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1393572080 933887 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1393572089 327583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when was the last time someone proved false in coq < 1393572166 144164 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea. I'm mostly hoping that Agda has comprehendible tutorials < 1393572236 408315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : earle grey + durian == durian grey tea? < 1393572242 772170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats newsham_ -----### < 1393572342 37167 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : would you eat an omena <-- probably not, sounds omenous < 1393572387 823093 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1393572532 614452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :google pictures reveals the secret of omena < 1393572600 835119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then google translate confirms < 1393572949 924391 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393573110 762412 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1393573111 654270 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393573247 673098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://meatfighter.com/nintendotetrisai/ is impressive < 1393573354 624463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i like how this subroutine AC82 implements a jump table in-line with code < 1393573646 782252 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393573694 315377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So does the PHP opcode execute PHP code?" < 1393573814 906661 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393573919 796019 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-56-186.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393574586 460609 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1393574711 348161 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393574798 899144 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393574801 578582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :convercoin schinedcoin lerarrowwongcoin eversitcoin falecoin condocoin ardcoin braincoin dupdoorcoin glashtfoylcoin 4dihycoin mercroncoin dificoin phedcoin lamberrectorcoin cipectcoin clubitcoin hysiacoin opecoin objectrancoin < 1393574870 410308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braincoins are all in your head. < 1393574969 318807 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393575723 209505 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393577411 572189 :vravn!~ravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393578308 777883 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393578828 764809 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393581204 142947 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393581441 569283 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393581789 958843 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas < 1393581864 251588 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393582127 575298 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-uveqsnzswdmfxrqj QUIT :Changing host < 1393582127 799365 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h JOIN :#esoteric < 1393582412 975257 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :[tester] < 1393582416 66464 :[tester]!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :hexagon < 1393584734 410224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i install hlint and try it on my recent Tag2ResPair.hs, and the only suggestion is something i already decided against just to drop an import. < 1393584754 886468 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess my haskell isn't so bad. < 1393585827 269695 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611536 well that clears things up. < 1393585920 690613 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's paywalled isn't it, oh well http://pastebin.com/rNydqGG7 < 1393585936 59791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a pretty loud ad too < 1393586161 862197 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393586330 621279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393586345 214525 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1393586345 409540 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393586547 85581 :douglass1!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393587226 892365 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393587933 804219 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393588559 651477 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lewd < 1393588559 836581 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393588693 290521 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393589002 450439 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: IEUAAAAAAAAAAAH! < 1393591162 164721 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393591370 269507 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393591481 382229 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393591561 401707 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393591798 788646 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393591821 903497 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393591941 226461 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1393592081 903391 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you implement the loop construct for Brainfuck? < 1393592109 869402 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[...+]? < 1393592140 536892 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, last + is not even necessary < 1393592153 890819 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393592154 765705 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may not get the question, though < 1393592189 955649 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing a quick and dirty interpretter in Python :) < 1393592219 979795 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically when you have a [ you need to record it so you can jump back to it if the cell value is non-zero < 1393592232 857812 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to think of a nice way of implementing that bit < 1393592270 203039 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push the adresse of [ on the stack < 1393592305 773074 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop at ], jump at poped position if cell is not zero < 1393592319 626172 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's exactly what I just read on Stackoverflow just now too < 1393592321 122223 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks :) < 1393592425 194068 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If your interpreter doesn't involve module re and eval, it isn't dirty < 1393592453 117709 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, use bitshifting < 1393592460 265256 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393592463 50226 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trastrecoin backcoin bromereturniceredcoacherelairequecoin fracktrcoin catchcoin hanisorecoin cleacoin hydricucoin freimaccoin markgrassuscoin unweakcoin lord!cpucoin karacoin dingintercalambdocoin scoledcoin c-logycoin mdpncoin smahocoin infuchcoin haifausiocoin < 1393592564 364622 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpucoin can only be mined by cpus < 1393592625 370517 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am half CPU on my mother's side < 1393592679 973094 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Quiz: what distro do bitcoin miners use?) < 1393593314 585534 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393593579 159877 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1393593805 27833 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393594139 229975 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bromereturniceredcoacherelairequecoin" < 1393594359 919937 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393594664 668218 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1393594769 716423 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1393594799 653031 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? brome-return-ice-red-coacher-e-la-i-re-que-coin? < 1393594805 939146 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1393594884 270096 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393594923 213497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393594926 102374 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacoin cunticoin ooederivitespringlencoin hargfcoin eviatefuccefcoin docurcoin rufacoin confimicoin emoontcoin coiucoin eviacoin goto++coin jumpcoin excelumcoin coolcoin fungecoin dcrabcoin hachcoin gemacoin miegnecoin < 1393595054 764262 :mekeor!~user@95-91-232-175-dynip.superkabel.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1393595112 17109 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393595119 288630 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though the sound of it is something quite too conjoin < 1393595606 802406 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo! eder vite springlen coin < 1393595616 30891 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hargfcoin < 1393595695 901853 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jumpcoin! Coolcoin; attacoin. < 1393595710 697705 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393595731 261345 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1393595731 448279 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393595748 585756 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungecoin probably has multiple dimensions < 1393595867 33196 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :attacoin sounds tidy. < 1393595900 578011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it might be an aggressive oin) < 1393595908 28269 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's some I got from a language model I trained to Hungarian: csúrdacoin ecoin vincssncoin surocoin acoin jajcoin tömdelcoin ídcoin megcoin acoin eecoin mothcoin nomagcoin rircoin szoúszobcoin kelyóezörgyecoin magosjántakcoin < 1393595913 124805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ogyitlamcoin boncoin opjácoin szetdicoin verkedcoin asláncoin szukbakjadsucoin fuzcoin mellbfcoin nepolorcoin dértentcoin enecoin kércoin erszecoin nakámcoin keddemcoin fuzjánbájtódcoin saraszcoin haldalcoin lagycoin rondcoin téleletcoin acoin dölbelelcoin taláncoin piszracoin bemcoin éstakcoin semcoin lelecoin holcoin vércoin szorötcoin iniscoin hermetincoin acoin agáryjecoin röspepfcoin mapnancoin közgemcoin zrcoin < 1393595963 494119 :password2!~password@197.78.178.93 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393595978 868701 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393596088 80092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393596657 268837 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393596733 622497 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can switch languages with `coins directly. < 1393596735 494316 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --italian 20 < 1393596737 30912 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coprinticoin escecoin colancilecoin rimentatocoin invecchicoin dipandogliacoin stavacoin uscollecoin pesecoin esplosecoin famentòcoin giunghicoin venereretecoin vertunacoin dubitersocoin sturbiterecoin seremmocoin rececoin tumultiacoin prosciatocoin < 1393596743 222284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1393596744 409376 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1393596763 485383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To any of those; the default is --eng-1M --esolangs. < 1393596782 897475 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --ogerman < 1393596784 338114 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rückkoppen < 1393596793 372717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --ogerman 10 < 1393596794 994324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :standbestecoin bergrößecoin dikanneratenkworatcoin exekulattgruppecoin maschafecoin schwencoin stersatzcoin heanfangriftcoin eingengengeleuchencoin angcoin < 1393596812 292080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least bergrößecoin sounds q. impressive. < 1393596876 234899 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Entgegengegangen is a German word that looks p. silly when written out in cursive. < 1393596941 14237 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.252 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1393596974 517210 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god Brainfuck is slow < 1393596981 703075 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it's my implementation < 1393596986 61371 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is kw even a valid sound in german < 1393596987 891150 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393597037 370199 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find any examples, not even in loanwords like http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superkalifragilistischexpiallegetisch < 1393597149 261614 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1393597155 281593 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1393597169 226215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It might have come from an abbreviation like Nkw. < 1393597179 280716 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393597217 524813 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's multiple words, like dikanner-atenk-worat-coin < 1393597229 725807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though atenk is suspicious < 1393597260 822457 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :tenk seems like a syllable that a computer might imagine to be valid < 1393597289 894865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's character trigrams, like I remember, it won't have that much context. < 1393597361 285095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just needs .. "ate" "ten" "enk" "nkw" "kwo" "wor" .. to exist at least once in the dictionary in order for that to be possible to generate. < 1393597465 369091 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacta is observing the classic tradeoff between implementation complexity and performance. < 1393597493 969575 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And both nkw and kwo do appear: http://sprunge.us/jRWe < 1393597505 321369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Compounds, all.) < 1393597571 823674 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would imagine that most german words are compound, due to combinatorics < 1393597616 815170 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kw wouldn't make sense in german, you would write qu < 1393597693 351256 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: There are no optimizations I can make to this code either... < 1393597739 403738 :password2!~password@197.78.178.93 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393597821 936683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++>++++++++>++<<<<-]>>.>++.<-.++++++++.<--.>---.>+++.<---.<---.>>>++++.<<++++++.>--.>.<.<++++++.>>.<.<<+.>.>++++. < 1393597822 122386 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is so slow < 1393597825 640512 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seemed p. fast. < 1393597845 712043 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck isn't slow at all < 1393597854 553583 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck has no random access memory < 1393597861 313063 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence it is pretty fucking slow < 1393597871 382587 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :problem is, it needs pretty many commands to achieve stuff < 1393597903 343351 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: huh? < 1393597907 313270 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah! But there are optimizations you can perform if you want to do more analysis of the source before you interpret it < 1393597943 512281 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a brainfuck interpreter in assembly, it wasn't slow at all < 1393597947 917735 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393597951 845450 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck < 1393597956 794136 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:34] I wonder, are there any optimized bf compilers? < 1393597957 11934 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:45] Like translating ++++++++++++++ into pointer + whatever < 1393597957 197628 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[15:31:51] And such things < 1393597962 196479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393597972 988779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are quite many optimizing bf compilers. < 1393597979 227726 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much every brainfuck compiler that isn't a golf entry < 1393598011 217793 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another standard optimization is for loops that have no net tape movement < 1393598061 634210 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://code.google.com/p/esotope-bfc/ is one well-known optimizing compiler. < 1393598067 334451 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming you can't do any parallelism given it's shared "memory"? < 1393598129 294764 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393598154 42195 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shared memory is not the problem for parallelism, the single instruction pointer is. < 1393598173 415446 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393598176 117400 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 NICK :Slereah_ < 1393598178 698791 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do a multitape BF < 1393598179 761518 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just multihead < 1393598182 745538 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I saying < 1393598211 774402 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393598223 262222 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1393598268 8198 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are concerned about high performance in brainfuck, though < 1393598331 887646 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393598387 599201 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have parallel brainfuck on a single tape < 1393598387 823609 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens when you have to branch! < 1393598387 823772 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if one tries to put in a 0 and the other encounters a ] < 1393598387 823863 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How else will I code Crysis in Brainfuck otherwise < 1393598387 823953 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna need a pretty good Brainfuck video card < 1393598475 796806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: try some extended brainfuck that lets you escape to native code, or a buggy brainfuck interpreter that doesn't check tape limits and lets you get control by smashing the stack or something < 1393598533 825340 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best idea would probably be not brainfuck < 1393598537 224935 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393598562 836841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That situation doesn't sound any different from plain old shared-memory parallelism you get on, you know, regular multicore computers. < 1393598584 425726 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens? MESI happens. < 1393598969 274346 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393599120 111556 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a sudden thought < 1393599129 363349 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are brainfuck derivatives the same sort of concept as monad tutorials? < 1393599537 844264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean, are they analogous to analogies? < 1393599653 27848 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1393599709 463189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant more along the lines of "new person discovers «Haskell/esolangs», struggles for a while, thinks they understand «it/them» after some thought, writes a «monad tutorial/BF derivative»" < 1393600252 625759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a reverse shibboleth, if there is such a thing. < 1393600437 454224 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393600527 873667 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393600871 777212 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1393601260 48662 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393601388 714246 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393602170 190057 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393602272 802872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393602459 666230 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393602551 888839 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393603118 369616 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393603249 781317 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393603671 575192 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393603688 77113 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393604470 535471 :Bacta!~NeonStorm@124-197-56-160.callplus.net.nz QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393604965 176481 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1393605744 823973 :mekeor!~user@95-91-232-175-dynip.superkabel.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393606274 110304 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393606922 833527 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393607010 67047 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393607369 431977 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 269 seconds < 1393607426 648624 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393608072 98344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393608502 768100 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393609364 70790 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1393609367 779423 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be QUIT :*.net *.split 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:Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393610382 103592 :nisstyre!yourstruly@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fe69:7f3d QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393610382 970162 :Guest53101!~phantomho@146.66.34.226 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393610383 861997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.34.226 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393610384 650435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.34.226 QUIT :Changing host < 1393610384 835497 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393610639 257415 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393610655 219363 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@141.70.114.6 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393610655 514576 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393610692 666369 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393610771 537249 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393610878 227258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393612260 50226 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393613464 177691 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393613521 75272 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393613684 565004 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1393613810 452020 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1393613810 757584 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1393614787 783165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask zzo38 What do you think of the subroutine AC82 documented in http://meatfighter.com/nintendotetrisai/ < 1393614787 968402 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1393614827 628941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. cool subroutine imo < 1393615146 656154 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1393615198 835633 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393615211 787764 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if compilers for modern architectures ever do that < 1393615346 335064 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393615412 567532 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's clever < 1393615688 234884 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM has these table branch instructions (TBB / TBH) that you can use for a similar thing, by using the program counter (r15) as the table base < 1393615700 315608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is what gcc 4.6 does, according to http://gcc.godbolt.org/ < 1393615772 477597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even then it's only a 1 or 2 byte relative branch; for an arbitrary target you still need to branch to a branch instruction < 1393615941 597715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any particular benefit in sticking the jump table targets "inline", except maybe some cache locality matters for combined data/instruction ones? < 1393615988 199578 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393616058 357480 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to load the address of the jump table < 1393616132 758818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think that on x86-64 you could do just lea rX, [rip]; jmp [rX + K + 8*rY] followed by the table contents. < 1393616214 463437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The call-pop construct gets criticized because it breaks the hardware-optimized return stack used for branch-predicting ret's targets. < 1393616228 64151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1393616230 206769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I assume that's not an issue on the 6502.) < 1393616237 957292 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect not :) < 1393616280 114192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though somebody has probably designed a superscalar OOE 6502 just for laffs < 1393616376 315833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`as86 lea rbx, [rip]; jmp [rbx+8*rax+4] < 1393616377 365017 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :488d1d00000000ff64c304 < 1393616463 480093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the rip-relative form always has a 32-bit displacement attached to it, I guess. :/ < 1393616638 897118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can move that 4-byte displacement into it, at least. But it's still one whopper of an instruction (pair). < 1393617013 160623 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 bytes isn't that big by the standards of x86 instructions :) < 1393617122 537193 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393617151 62223 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola alguna chica londa x aki < 1393617154 921816 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 PRIVMSG #esoteric :linda < 1393617213 598338 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393617242 94105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido miguel < 1393617243 361685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :miguel: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1393617267 223898 :miguel!~canaima@186.92.134.18 PART :#esoteric < 1393617273 504237 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just looking for a hot girl < 1393617283 599322 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont think he cared about programming languages < 1393617298 553075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. `bienvenido is so efficient. < 1393617398 775975 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393617399 394260 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393617426 812853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION briefly wonders if oteric means something suspicious in es-pañol, but google doesn't know about it < 1393617441 841446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :including with -o/a appended < 1393617494 753743 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393617545 406172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the "x" meant to stand for in that sentence < 1393617591 381179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :was wondering about that too. i was guessing "exista" or thereabouts < 1393617602 63610 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393617627 21519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a stretch for "equis" < 1393617634 796567 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :x is slang for por < 1393617637 263460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not a spanish speaking 14 year old in search of a chica linda < 1393617655 394574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1393617680 841195 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he said "aki" so obviously he doesn't care about spelling < 1393617684 819501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1393617704 695125 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because x is like multiplication and 2 x 2 is pronounced dos por dos < 1393617704 880174 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393617710 105219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't exactly know spanish chatting slang < 1393617729 66940 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only know from video game servers < 1393617740 907307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um what's equis supposed to mean < 1393617750 87422 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :spanish people really like ragnarok online < 1393617772 331566 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mexican i mean < 1393617807 683461 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys < 1393617819 16345 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I fuck around in x86-64 < 1393617819 279027 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: spanish name for the letter "x" < 1393617829 733428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: how do you mean < 1393617836 219280 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a virtual machine that boots on some program in x86-64 that I write < 1393617836 404602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh < 1393617850 77885 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you want to run code without an OS? < 1393617855 302028 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393617859 634429 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... complicated < 1393617868 880833 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm gonna dump some links at you < 1393617880 764117 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least a non-obtrusive OS < 1393617889 575836 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like MS DOS for ol' timey x86 < 1393617902 281217 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://templeos.org/ < 1393617907 381566 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful what you wish for < 1393617914 223178 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1393617918 842104 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wiki.osdev.org/Main_Page http://www.returninfinity.com/pure64.html http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/6.828/2012/ < 1393617928 670862 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : COME ON MONKEY PAW < 1393617942 258721 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393617944 963466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Accts/TS/Wb2/TempleOS.html is the slightly less useful link now < 1393617948 154338 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1393617950 86490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :less useless. < 1393617962 272165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: what means "obtrusive"? you can write x86-64 assembly for Linux pretty easily, and it's much less work to make something cool than doing it on "bare metal" < 1393617966 520362 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like coding in x86, but I do want to try out some x64 too < 1393617995 724820 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a start it has more bloody registers. < 1393618004 831261 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : Doesn't the OS block a bunch of things? < 1393618022 37537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some sense an OS is the opposite of obtrusive... it provides the illusion of a machine much simpler and more capable than the "real thing" < 1393618025 50244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: like what? < 1393618040 522689 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access to ports, parts of the memory, self modifying code < 1393618148 523436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can usually opt into self-modifying code < 1393618161 160447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's disabled by default for security reasons) < 1393618163 916326 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct access to hardware, yes (for some values of), but that's only a problem if you really fancy writing drivers. < 1393618177 320634 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want < 1393618180 440309 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ULTIMATE POWEEEER < 1393618199 300575 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will find that things are fantastically complicated and it will be an extreme amount of effort to make anything work at all < 1393618207 747134 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware! < 1393618209 59911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mean to discourage you but you should know what you're getting into < 1393618219 665116 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I am already coding things in x86 < 1393618233 143612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "platform" is far more complex than the instruction set itself < 1393618247 106226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an OS hides that complexity and gives you a simple more friendly platform < 1393618251 870129 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :simple osdev isn't really that difficult, just very tedious and annoying < 1393618285 594457 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just kinda like trying to do things from the ground up < 1393618308 288856 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://davidad.github.io/blog/2014/02/18/kernel-from-scratch/ Slereah_ < 1393618312 380595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: get to the silicon mines then ;) < 1393618327 982195 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no silicone mines! < 1393618331 521320 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all sand and shit < 1393618343 364600 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silicone and silicon are not the same ._. < 1393618346 691260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: nice < 1393618357 906900 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1393618361 343605 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In english, at least) < 1393618366 640178 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In French, silicone is silicone < 1393618371 348843 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And silicone is silicium < 1393618374 231479 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is here where i mention that the Czochralski process is really cool < 1393618374 436934 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :silicon* < 1393618380 657615 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one problem is that the BIOS (which is basically an OS/library in ROM) becomes much harder to access once you leave real mode < 1393618395 936614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes doing any kind of I/O a lot harder < 1393618401 181263 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I wouldn't mind building my own little computer, I don't think I could build much < 1393618401 721236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"aren't you sposed to use UEFI now" < 1393618410 372088 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of scale issues < 1393618424 351103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you might like those MIT courses 6.828 and 6.004 < 1393618433 274859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the former you write large parts of a kernel < 1393618438 70205 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of computer can you build from off the shelf electronic components? < 1393618440 930278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the latter you design a processor at the logic gate level and then optimize it < 1393618457 450965 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're way too fucking big to do much with < 1393618481 163245 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1393618487 832204 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could make a tiny Brainfuck computer < 1393618493 451562 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can get computers from shelves. < 1393618494 647652 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bam. < 1393618496 760024 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find many projects online of people building computers from discrete logic chips < 1393618502 504744 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are usually simple 8-bit things < 1393618513 755867 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can make a "real CPU" with arithmetic, branching, etc. < 1393618518 950154 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1393618539 972111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard somebody actually breadboarded the 6.004 processor at one point < 1393618553 275765 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like a 32-bit version of the Alpha (simplified further I'm sure) < 1393618555 455473 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a torture method where they drown you in dough? < 1393618561 390127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1393618614 320942 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was my first thought on hwo to explain breadboards 'well, imagine a cribbage board, and' < 1393618617 208354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I strongly recommend learning x86-64 assembly in friendly userspace before you try to write an OS < 1393618628 921017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you might want to write most of the OS in a higher level language anyway < 1393618648 126361 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who said anything about an Os < 1393618681 252439 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also yeah I guess I might want to just write some stuff in C and then half-compile it and look at the assembly file < 1393618696 250350 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And modify it some < 1393618697 259153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're writing without one, whatever you write is arguably an OS. < 1393618703 31275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: have you seen http://gcc.godbolt.org/ < 1393618729 478535 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't plan to do any threads or file management or spinning skulls < 1393618740 363776 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : Thanks! < 1393618741 708693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have any spinning skulls then what's even the point? < 1393618756 482452 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly you should write an OS designed for GPUs < 1393618762 819876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sure to try the "Colourise" button < 1393618804 480477 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gifmix.net/gif.php?image=skull-gifs/TOTENKOPF047.GIF < 1393618819 85101 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mytinyphone.com/uploads/users/cacique/101455.gif < 1393618820 289684 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man < 1393618823 179654 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do miss the 90's < 1393619165 729390 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric : And silicone is silicium < 1393619167 933745 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the web is certainly worse off now that every page doesn't have a http://www.jadefrolics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/under-construction-sign-animated1.gif in it. < 1393619169 669701 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and here it's 'kisel' < 1393619193 869549 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole silicon/e thing in english took me a while to understand < 1393619213 285805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"kisel (plural kisels): A dessert, an acidulated jelly, made by cooking fruit or berry juice, milk or water, and flour, common in Slavic and Baltic countries as well as Finland." < 1393619218 680490 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie : Also the little gif of a letter going into an enveloppe and into a mailbox < 1393619283 807068 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silicon is, for whatever reason, "pii" in Finnish. < 1393619303 759181 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pee < 1393619341 750142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the same as π.) < 1393619352 333288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like the etymology of "silicone" is dumb. It's a siloxane, not a ketone... < 1393619382 126972 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well crystal doesn't have a crystaline structure! < 1393619403 829324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, what. < 1393619442 70270 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And neutrinos aren't small neutrons! < 1393619501 299244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are small and neutral, though. < 1393619514 439312 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is Switzerland < 1393619943 658279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can figure out, the etymology for the Finnish "pii" for silicon comes from the fact that "pii" had a (now no longer used) meaning of 'tooth' or any sort of spike in a tool, so a type of flint useful for toolmaking got called "piikivi" ("kivi" being rock/stone), and those contain silicon compounds. < 1393620006 954636 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :da piikivi being of course an anagram of wikipedia < 1393620011 378561 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vikipedia < 1393620066 489931 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a "Finnish version" of Uncyclopedia called Hikipedia (lit. "Sweat-pedia"). < 1393620105 869609 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed` < 1393620221 375841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Sir Humphry Davy proposed the name "silicium" for silicon, from the Latin silex, silicis for flint, flints, and adding the "-ium" ending because he believed it was a metal' argh < 1393620227 39485 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, whatever, it's not as bad as hydrogen. < 1393620273 164182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Metals, metalloids, who cares. < 1393620287 928229 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a semiconductor < 1393620289 468626 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Close enough < 1393620299 550219 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm pretty sure back in the days, "metal" had a different definition < 1393620324 771697 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The meaning of "metal" differs for various communities. For example, astronomers use the blanket term "metal" for convenience to collectively describe all elements other than hydrogen and helium " < 1393620325 939704 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1393620328 702124 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally a metal < 1393620457 887974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393620476 132915 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And of course, diamond is the hardest metal < 1393620480 838399 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is made of carbon < 1393620533 300516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SiliconCroda.jpg to be fair, that does look p. metal. < 1393620590 669730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :really i'm more annoyed at silicone. chemist really ought to not just name something as a ketone because it's vaguely analogous to a ketone < 1393620638 527811 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Systematic names in chemistry is a pretty recent thing anyway < 1393620704 119273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote And neutrinos aren't small neutrons! They are small and neutral, though. So is Switzerland < 1393620706 814125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1171) And neutrinos aren't small neutrons! They are small and neutral, though. So is Switzerland < 1393620730 205810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also known as "Switzerino". < 1393620759 781296 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he named it after benzophenone. that's not IUPAC systematic but it's still proto-system. < 1393620760 125635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, that sounds like a derogatory term.) < 1393620932 66761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc metal is from the greek for mine < 1393621811 168608 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393621913 155367 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like it https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BC%CE%AD%CF%84%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%BD#Ancient_Greek < 1393622726 815533 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393622727 225654 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393622727 411369 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393622763 67322 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393622826 445303 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393622853 535529 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-pjltxwofpdzlqlww JOIN :#esoteric < 1393622873 39752 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393622876 219742 :rodgort!~rodgort@li125-242.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393622956 990935 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393623129 346 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-pjltxwofpdzlqlww QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393623151 879710 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-wdwvpewfxpzinvoz JOIN :#esoteric < 1393623401 770924 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393623696 958126 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-155.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393623778 610085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393624378 176729 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393624397 162332 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393624399 845046 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393624401 129825 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393624401 517078 :23LAAD5BZ!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393624417 72766 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393624448 277154 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393624466 360928 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625269 841723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what's bad? that gasoline is called "benzene" or "naptha" in some countries/languages < 1393625312 949885 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1393625319 543899 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1393625421 740454 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625481 292346 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625511 786071 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393625521 890862 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625584 784123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625603 262124 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy Australian mailman mailing list reminders day! < 1393625611 651234 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1393625644 331561 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi quintopia < 1393625688 886443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393625749 261768 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you on about now? < 1393625772 798979 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the " happy Australian mailman mailing list reminders day!" thing? < 1393625778 348500 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393625796 358781 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a joke #esoteric tradition; the mailing list server software Mailman send out reminders on the first of every month < 1393625798 816698 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what? whyyyy < 1393625805 718559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and several of us are subscribed to Mailman mailing lists hosted in Australia < 1393625815 325508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the reminders come out on the last of every month instead < 1393625832 312650 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that actually the active component there? i thought in us gasoline at least it was octane < 1393625879 875285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hebrew for example < 1393625895 781990 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think octane's the largest component of most gasoline/petrol < 1393626092 763193 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393627458 846144 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393627574 125134 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393627577 786844 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393627578 237103 :atslash!~atslash@192.241.160.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393627695 638159 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, is it mailman day already? < 1393627719 507843 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine is the TUHS mailing list (also .au) < 1393627836 267100 :atslash!~atslash@192.241.160.114 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393627926 596675 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393627974 226163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393628115 178362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's "bensiini"/"bensa" in Finnish, and yes, it's probably not a good name. < 1393628119 703213 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@gateway/shell/cadoth.net/x-wdwvpewfxpzinvoz QUIT :Changing host < 1393628119 888167 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h JOIN :#esoteric < 1393628331 435279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Etymology: From Swedish /bensin/, from German /Benzin/, from benzoe + -in." So it's not our fault! < 1393628923 735449 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393629108 876884 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393629939 524966 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Polish it's benzyna < 1393629952 789381 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably from German < 1393630025 213197 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, apparently from French < 1393630768 753441 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393630796 311438 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Error] ais523: No such channel. < 1393630801 617413 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode's having fun today, I see :-) < 1393630806 677864 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1393630996 829167 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393631390 367256 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric