< 1395446407 316977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or planning to do or whatever < 1395446798 875622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to write more of my Z-machine compiler, is what I might do today < 1395446808 253531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or play Pokemon card, or both < 1395446857 322242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395447200 859792 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Define "better". < 1395447207 793054 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395447213 528919 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395447312 256396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is margarine really better than I Can't Believe It's Not Butter(TM)? < 1395447419 639721 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MsbvGmLaU4 < 1395447801 887985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe I can't believe it's not butter is not butter after watching that clip < 1395447853 415435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395447861 890517 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you believe you know what I'm talking about please explain, because I don't) < 1395448668 482226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finally got at least to a 1024
< 1395448697 97913 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you, man :( < 1395448706 70577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everybody playing this game? < 1395448714 629227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've been having trouble getting to that too? < 1395448719 638581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, hth < 1395448724 284353 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i got a 2048 in flappy logarithmic 2048 < 1395448730 794841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woo, you pased eleven pillars" < 1395448761 142433 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my record is either 512 or 1024 (in the original 2048, not in the derivatives) < 1395448803 208760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think i fell into a nice rhythm this time < 1395448808 365185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 was easy, 1024 was hard, 2048 was impossible until I adapted a good strategy (which I can't claim credit for, I watched a colleague play.). < 1395448812 278291 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395448821 472374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah the original. < 1395448833 828560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so it claims) < 1395448840 188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody wrote a computer program that gets 2048 90% of the time. < 1395448865 964211 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the doge-2048 easier than the original though, maybe the trick is to watch the colors and not the numbers < 1395448884 651938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ http://www.2048tile.co/ (which I believe are the same game, but the latter is full of ads) < 1395448957 756451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I hope that's the original one. < 1395449079 273472 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395449084 272005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i add the pieces other than the 1024 at game over, i get 526 i think < 1395449300 304027 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pet peeve: store websites that try to be amazon, but wont tell you whats actually in stock in an actual store down the street from you. < 1395449313 830197 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no walmart, i dont give a fuck about what you can fedex me. < 1395449621 349664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got my highest score yet (only up to 512 though) but it took systematism < 1395449624 326548 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fuck that < 1395449625 735990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : 512 was easy, 1024 was hard, 2048 was impossible until I adapted a good strategy (which I can't claim credit for, I watched a colleague play.). < 1395449629 114526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what strategy < 1395449654 121457 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :left up right down, p. good strategy < 1395449684 684315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION right now, p. helpful
< 1395449890 166634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is rankine really better than fahrenheit < 1395449891 388038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hth < 1395449945 385457 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually remember which one rankine is. fahrenheit but based at absoltue zero? < 1395449972 232803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1395450052 350841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia tells me that the gas constant, as measured in cubic feet psi per rankine-pound-mole, is almost eleven < 1395450077 560583 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like 80% sure somebody wrote this table as a joke < 1395450236 270566 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395450283 933003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : left up right down, p. good strategy <-- that actually works quite a while, i think. maybe as far as 256. < 1395450310 319424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although by the time it stops working, your field will be so messed up it's unsaveable without extreme luck. < 1395450357 968444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tests
< 1395450458 719477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite to 256 on first try < 1395450477 765834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have 128, 64, 32 and 3*16 < 1395450500 236702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it will probably manage occasionally < 1395450509 289595 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395450634 451548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2nd try had 128 + 64 + 2*32 < 1395450733 275606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any strategy will work for quite a while < 1395450746 940252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo try to lose with as low a score as possible < 1395450827 496062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3rd try got above 256, then as well as 128 + 2*64 < 1395451023 929541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395451073 206409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok i managed before 128 on first try < 1395451161 229433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the score computer anyway < 1395451168 113137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it just the sum of the numbers on the board or something < 1395451205 203885 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was the sum of the tiles you joined together. Admittedly I didn't actually check my theory. < 1395451237 262217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-2.png :) < 1395451647 484871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok with a slightly better misere strategy i managed score 276 < 1395451661 708128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no blocks above 16 < 1395451692 460269 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395451725 557893 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395451765 277430 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395451981 337870 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395452101 583532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/EQzOd1v.png < 1395452453 25313 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395452812 317961 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395453510 52455 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395453641 29141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they keep track of misere scores? < 1395453702 287427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to my knowledge < 1395454306 437157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the lack of gregor and gregorbots is subtly motivating me to write a bfjoustbot <-- EgoBot is still here < 1395457383 381709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the lack of gregor is the bigger deal. also, his unwillingness to install the fixed point scoring < 1395457835 480558 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395458510 345642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like the chess variations in ? < 1395458563 152944 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395458584 218688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Page 21.) < 1395458591 466530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This file is damaged. < 1395458607 589148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently.) < 1395458630 532510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? How? < 1395458668 699090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. My computer tells me it is damaged. < 1395458671 328127 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395458691 844714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite believe them, but that is what it says. < 1395458703 232639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which PDF viewer are you using? < 1395458710 576699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using Google Chrome. It works for me. < 1395458726 364374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using Adobe < 1395458812 118842 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed point scoring for waht? < 1395459387 404789 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395459458 62744 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395459752 700516 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix score < 1395459752 924462 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable fix < 1395459756 386781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `score' < 1395459791 180230 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another country heard from < 1395460416 768019 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461569 879928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna take acid and play with d3.js demos for hours < 1395461628 181854 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395461664 337287 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461901 307614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rudradevbasak.github.io/16384_hex/ < 1395461947 254245 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395461962 408685 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-97.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461964 454977 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-97.netflash.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395461964 509878 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395462103 545608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: woah, SIGBOVIK preprint < 1395462794 3931 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395463259 963429 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395463339 143834 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1395464126 54969 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464275 89344 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464327 419364 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395464411 988696 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395464413 65784 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk NICK :Sellyme < 1395464448 224568 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395464594 631334 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395464715 92683 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of writing a sigbovik paper, too < 1395464743 117959 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclosure: I am an employee of Cablevision. My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Cablevision) < 1395464754 625114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I should be proud of my ISP http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html < 1395464755 641165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395464769 385608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some major ISPs, like Cablevision, already practice strong net neutrality and for their broadband subscribers, the quality of Netflix and other streaming services is outstanding." < 1395464866 410080 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually just write that disclosure on irc < 1395464883 274281 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464912 613696 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence, my opinions don't necessarily reflect cablevision's either < 1395464914 926870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I think I'm supposed to? Well, at least on other social networks < 1395464923 891308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps company policy requires you to make such a disclosure? < 1395464932 231644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how the company policy works. < 1395465061 743516 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it does, pretty much. Not sure if I'm supposed to talk about that though. I _think_ I can < 1395465119 715895 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that thought owned by Cablevision < 1395465128 107604 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395465163 129940 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395465241 914090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclosure: my opinions are mostly just cobbled together from the opinions of thousands of others. i've hardly had an original thought in my life. < 1395465321 183851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If it was never seen, never known, and never thought of, then you will not find it in the Book no matter how far you look, though, and I mean no offence, the chances of you ever having an original thought such as that are remote." < 1395465394 167746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What book? < 1395465404 147274 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395465411 873858 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the turner diaries < 1395465420 176256 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe < 1395465428 591253 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://qntm.org/library < 1395465595 829754 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395465814 921871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that Book. < 1395466361 370664 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395466596 276621 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! 1024!!!! < 1395466617 150290 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395466750 237737 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert joke about factorials here] < 1395466767 96742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert sheep here] < 1395466804 431683 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, it was probably not a wise choice making my bf memory gor from -127 to +127 if my cell values gor 0-255 < 1395466850 342805 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?92 < 1395466852 539644 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 T&R < 1395466859 335156 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395467113 428135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?110 < 1395467416 386196 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395468193 608822 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION got a 4096 tile.
< 1395468196 775240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a waste of time < 1395468343 799729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1395468512 847155 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395468759 992912 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395468762 971041 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1395468830 482717 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only got to 1024 < 1395468874 264912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-3.png became http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-4.png < 1395469036 437095 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395469053 964937 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1395469260 985248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 is the mind-killer < 1395469354 793312 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politics is the 2048 < 1395469376 904631 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc will not 2048. < 1395469414 162787 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc prefers playing aleph-null < 1395469435 693608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that requires in infinite grid < 1395469452 162411 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an* < 1395469463 47790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *will* sleep now. Good night. < 1395469601 408953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how 'bout them Turing machines, eh? never know when they're gonna stop. < 1395469622 199038 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a brianfuck variant! < 1395469625 234920 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395469641 174856 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the cardinality of the set of brainfuck variants actually is aleph-null. < 1395469649 706053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a combination brainfuck variant / 2048 game / web framework? < 1395469660 901272 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1395469680 990244 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it adds relative increase cell and decrease < 1395469715 152480 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically makes it pointer like < 1395469720 694331 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++++++++>++++++++++++<[->}-<] < 1395469724 169632 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what, > that goes right a number of times based on the current cell? < 1395469741 939782 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does make array-like things much, much easier. < 1395469750 138290 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no } increases the cell the pointer is pointing to < 1395469759 352824 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395469761 62174 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395469763 724535 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't invest in brainfuck derivatives. < 1395469778 73252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy buy buy sell sell sell < 1395469792 788386 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is d brainfuck/dx, anyways? < 1395469801 352283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d brain / d fuck < 1395469825 115814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get all fancy ∂brain/∂fuck < 1395469831 867595 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-__ < 1395469833 267453 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1395469836 478727 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nice, a partial one. < 1395469872 652997 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jacofuckyoubian < 1395469921 942399 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit , didn't expect someone would actually whip out the correct symbol so fast < 1395469939 604359 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's the compose for that? < 1395469984 838226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1395469989 183996 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters
< 1395470016 993090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck < 1395470021 426603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the muttering < 1395470038 295790 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to think of neat possibilities of my bfpointer thingy < 1395470092 305260 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395470461 886373 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395471429 101680 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395471803 532433 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395471992 391001 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395472428 436997 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err , i see now my modification to bf is very limited < 1395472514 397475 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i make the looping relative too < 1395472981 81014 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax for moving a value got a bit simpler < 1395473258 279338 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: nine hour < 1395475493 873054 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395475504 393733 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395476951 889227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?538 < 1395477395 501643 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1395477680 625831 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The following sentence is false. < 1395477685 365431 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preceding sentence is true. < 1395477701 71524 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This satement is false < 1395477713 429307 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*statement < 1395477765 627902 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(x != !x) { x = !x;} < 1395478007 486635 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that comic is random < 1395478674 283802 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395478752 8658 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-55.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395478929 202922 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395479006 42105 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395480020 986199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there solvers (or a name) for a generalized TSP where the distances between nodes can depend on the index of that edge on the path? (And with free start/end points and no need to return to the origin.) < 1395480735 290897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that last condition is easy to reduce to the standard one by adding one vertex.) < 1395481045 339290 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds vaguely PSPACE-hard. < 1395481280 93806 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it still only NP-hard? at least the decision problem of whether you have a path of cost < n still only requires a polynomial-time-checkable witness < 1395481981 873685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose d(e, i) ≈ e/2^i, then paths can be arbitrarily long < 1395482945 354116 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds interesting < 1395483007 785599 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, how are those numbers given, it's probably very dangerous to give them via polytime turing machines < 1395483079 992235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what e is in "d(e, i) ≈ e/2^i". < 1395483300 650166 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the edge on the left and its weight on the right, maybe < 1395483319 976521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. < 1395483380 619283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also not sure about arbitrarily long, since i \in {1, ..., N}.) < 1395483409 760137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1395483410 731200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1395483435 461848 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it be the fastest solution to wait for exponentially many steps at the first node (because up to that point, everything is very expensive) < 1395483445 101987 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does tsp have to be a hamiltonean path < 1395483458 465375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it usually does. < 1395483471 52340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Traditionally, a Hamiltonian cycle, even.) < 1395483478 267895 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit weird imo < 1395483479 473797 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395483485 891128 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1395483500 240087 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in the euclidean case it's fine < 1395483511 968309 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you repeat a node, you could bypass it by triangle inequality < 1395483517 539584 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll be shorter < 1395483733 906288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiki says that if you have a non-metric case without the triangle inequality, and allow for revisiting cities, you can replace that by doing regular TSP in the complete graph where d(A, B) is the shortest path between A and B in the original graph. < 1395483768 13893 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1395483775 633230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Presumably not so applicable for the case with time in it.) < 1395483782 750265 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so okay, for tsp it's very reasonable < 1395483787 586849 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not reasonable for this version < 1395483821 599562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My underlying practical problem needs a Hamiltonian path, anyway. < 1395483826 260302 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you already had an application in mind, i guess even the ugliest problem could be called reasonable if it's actually needed < 1395483830 792641 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395483917 306419 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Jettyplay will happily encode something more than 4 (or is 2 the cutoff?) GiB in size but only writes a 0-byte file. I thought it'd be an easy fix but evidently the 4 GiB limit is due to the AVI format... < 1395483917 417624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395483996 49968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet says the problem is called "Time Dependent Traveling Salesman Problem", which isn't terribly surprising. < 1395484046 674761 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a really long ttyrec < 1395484047 983069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand why hamiltonean < 1395484057 477349 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your application a secret? < 1395484084 514118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it's too silly to speak of. < 1395484119 808065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you think of a non-silly application? < 1395484158 872202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This TDTSP paper talks of "a number of important applications", but does not go into all that much detail. < 1395484170 836081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except mentioning that the Traveling Deliveryman Problem is a special case. < 1395484218 910121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh important applications, those are pretty important < 1395484242 739922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also applicability of their algorithm to Vehicle Routing Problem variants. < 1395484242 863336 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395484269 646209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.optimization-online.org/DB_FILE/2010/12/2872.pdf "THe Time Dependent Traveling Salesman Problem: Polyhedra and Algorithm", Abeledo et al., if you want to go chasing references or something. < 1395484400 183867 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i'll just believe them < 1395484444 310176 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 969 cycles < 1395484444 365278 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: Hello World! < 1395484453 634607 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395484540 886342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My application is that I have a set of N aligned photos that I want to blend so that I take a narrow vertical column from each of them, and order the photos so that it minimizes the sum of the distances between adjacent photos, as considered in the region around the column, which I think is an instance of that. < 1395484680 471454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably not one of the "important" ones.) < 1395484832 282607 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that time-dependent? The distance between adjacent photos is fixed. < 1395484843 253307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: "around the column" < 1395484857 993395 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and column number = time. < 1395484909 673081 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that not an instance of the usual version? what is time here? < 1395484915 129707 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395484918 250058 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the distance depends on more photos in either direction, then it is path-dependent, not time-dependent < 1395484922 892625 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right < 1395484933 11540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow, depending on the column number, you compare different areas of the photos. < 1395484997 204381 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that is true. < 1395485054 28646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was exactly what I thought. (Though you could certainly generalize it further by involving more than just the adjacent photos.) < 1395485066 477480 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but why do you want a hamiltonean path? < 1395485089 880693 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why not i guess.. < 1395485098 253853 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have as many pictures as columns? < 1395485129 443780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to just set the column width based on that. < 1395485137 437759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose fizzie wants to have exactly as many columns as pictures. < 1395485157 741157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395485173 81919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I imagine (wild guess, probably wrong) it's for a website or similar displaying images, an index of the photos that can be rotated by dragging or the like. < 1395485199 106358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not for anything as useful as that, I just wanted to see what it looks like. < 1395485202 446011 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395485213 334972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The photos are all of the same thing taken at different times.) < 1395485219 924360 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395485227 753789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a small number of images, you could just use brute force. < 1395485260 326433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :another kind of time lapse < 1395485260 437634 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are normally presented in chronological order, though. < 1395485266 455606 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :) < 1395485296 281039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably have about a hundred of them, and 100! is a big number. (But I could use some generic optimization things, sure.) < 1395485303 960824 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the pictures are taken at random times of the day :) < 1395485333 219240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the timestamps are lost. < 1395485341 552947 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could reduce this to weighted set cover by weighting each set {left_i, right_j} with the transition cost of left_i to right_j. The solution has to cover all {left_i} and all {right_j}. < 1395485392 939625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a chronological order, but chronologically adjacent photos aren't especially similar here. < 1395485394 460176 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weighted set cover is NP-complete by reduction to integer programming.) < 1395485411 744324 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but ypu'll likely get a bunch of cycles that way. < 1395485448 835898 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. I guess you can add ILP constraints to restrict those. < 1395485542 632803 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the correct name is exact set cover. < 1395485571 912393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1395485600 946479 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we have so many names, anyway. They all have trivial reductions to ILP. < 1395485604 137422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would have made the same mistake, hence the smile.) < 1395485616 246496 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395485922 146256 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395485981 766110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm wondering about a (practically irrelevant) detail here. Assume we have an LP with integer variables but real coefficients. How big can an encoding of that using only integer coefficients be? < 1395486042 416023 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in practice we are usually happy with rational coefficients and the question becomes easy to answer) < 1395486212 724348 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395486243 140768 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, real numbers are not real < 1395486294 101705 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395486302 278640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I can answer this; even with a single equation (to inequalities) the encoding can require arbitrarily large numbers, because with real coefficients, a single equation can encode a single integer point on a plane (or in Z^n if we wish). < 1395486311 13481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/two/ < 1395486323 130501 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the equations are linear, though, they are going to define a polytope. So you probably only need to consider something like the field extension Q[√x] for whatever real x you're using. < 1395486342 77106 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1395486350 133736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1395486381 210279 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have an oracle for arithmetic in Q[√x1][√x2]... < 1395486416 802194 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I completely skirted the representation and computability issues. < 1395486428 352241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually < 1395486447 699155 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a stupid question because ILP can't express x >= sqrt(2)*y < 1395486467 496429 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the cost function? < 1395486482 357111 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The best cost function for that would obviously be x - sqrt(2)*y) < 1395486648 702655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. In my background we're just concerned with feasibility, so there is no cost function. It could be x - sqrt(2)*y and there could be additional constaints a <= x <= b to make it interesting (otherwise the answer will be 0). < 1395486670 884040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, (x,y) = (0,0) and cost = 0. < 1395486777 90176 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395486973 258615 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I just accidentally edit the noticE? < 1395486989 517929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395487031 687446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the topic, then no, you did not. < 1395487039 499801 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'm confused. < 1395487041 52139 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1395487067 788074 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i wanted to copy a url and i cut it , now my topic shows it without that url < 1395487136 105753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't press enter in the topic field :) < 1395487145 249013 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont < 1395487156 515526 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atleast i wont try to < 1395487160 344356 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1395487165 854942 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395487183 277087 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now its back < 1395487199 890757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case some kind soul would happily restore it for you if you mess up, I'm sure. So don't worry :) < 1395487538 826158 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like to create unnecessary effort for people < 1395487645 524947 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i see someone actually built a hoverboard < 1395487939 942320 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nvm , they use a mannequin < 1395489913 903903 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395490175 707775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there? < 1395490223 295161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395490264 162600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you know of any other distro with a package system similar to NixOS, specifically the different versions in different places bit? < 1395490286 239098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prebuilt packages preferably < 1395490291 826247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gobolinux. you probably don't want to use it. use nixos instead < 1395490309 76577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't nixos use source packages? < 1395490335 253600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1395490338 167049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has cached binary packages < 1395490344 67737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1395490344 591862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if you customise packages they will hvae to be built < 1395490349 396823 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh also ARMv6 < 1395490350 984903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no binary with a matching hash will exist < 1395490353 944941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395490357 286062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :RPi < 1395490368 393472 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that ARM6? < 1395490370 504072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you won't get any binaries on arm I don't think. < 1395490372 504641 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot which one is which < 1395490387 851454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nixos.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi < 1395490392 730229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395490402 108041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1395490416 938924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah lack of prebuilt will be a killer for RPi sadly < 1395490427 139085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can cross-compile the binaries from any other linux host < 1395490431 415146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be very easy with nix < 1395490448 907707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I had issues cross-compiling in general for non-trivial stuff < 1395490465 565520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing I managed was distcc to a cross toolchain, which makes configure and such slow still < 1395490606 818758 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used nixos yourself as a primary OS on a computer (rather than for just playing around with)? < 1395490635 730888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but I did a lot of research into doing so a few times < 1395490658 316815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want my real-world distro usage, I have also used windows as a primary OS within the last year < 1395490681 771494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what did you find? Last time I checked I found the existing package repo... somewhat lacking. Sure I could package a lot of software myself, but that takes time, and so does ensuring that it is up-to-date. < 1395490726 634451 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect it to compare to debian or ubuntu, but hopefully most of what I want should just be there. < 1395490758 620307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the package base is okay for a niche distro, it's not that hard to package stuff (and you can just submit it upstream), shrug < 1395490770 40978 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395490928 270949 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah NixOS on RPi seems annoying < 1395490934 863343 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doable, but annoying < 1395491095 442609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so, out of interest, what is wrong with gobolinux? < 1395491111 369431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1395491120 379918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why use something even more niche than nixos that has almost none of the benefits < 1395491129 869148 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1395491145 253386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do you really want $HOME to start with /Users < 1395491158 926285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, no < 1395491169 410273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/System/Links/Headers ~~so beautiful~~~ < 1395491176 551328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like OS X at that point < 1395491356 35567 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491386 416947 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491392 59940 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what eso lang i should try next < 1395491395 421428 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491397 284341 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine. < 1395491437 597100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2, since you use xchat you could also have restored your client's copy of the topic by doing a plain "/topic" without any parameters < 1395491451 661348 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395491453 114155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2, which ones have you tried? < 1395491467 378338 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491475 77280 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tried brainfuck , and even added onthere instruction < 1395491518 455655 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*another < 1395491533 614791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about underload, or befunge? Both are quite different languages from bf at least < 1395491578 546520 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite different i see < 1395491651 133872 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shouts “AUBERGINE!” :D
< 1395491688 26551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, need to check that one out myself < 1395491807 29304 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll play around witf bf a bit more first < 1395491907 200712 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>+++++++>+++<[->}+}}+}}}--<] < 1395491909 218221 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 118 cycles < 1395491918 530315 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395491920 353204 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 |0| 3 7 14 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395492120 245389 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah , i shoul still do input < 1395492344 395856 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, oh fungot. I was paying my ISP bill on the banking site. clicked the confirm button, then 500 internal server error. oooooh fsck.) < 1395492344 505388 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1395492612 592858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, lets just the database is ACID < 1395492669 795828 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly should be < 1395492680 667876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sphere.chronosempire.org.uk/~HEx/8402/ reverse 2048 < 1395492683 898922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I relogged in, then checked the transaction history. the attempt was absent, so I tried it again, and it went through. < 1395493033 401121 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395493123 112054 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395493175 300586 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395493348 289313 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome ket1v < 1395493348 438937 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ket1v: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica ... < 1395493370 352448 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395493438 333570 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395493468 301077 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like how mtgox found heaps of coins in the electronic equivalent of the back of a drawer :) < 1395493604 222351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oh? Recently? Last I heard of the story, they went bankrupt < 1395493663 282266 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime this weak < 1395493672 466305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah found a news article < 1395493674 495521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1395493690 243855 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also scary that they could have missed it in the first place < 1395493932 232603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether they found any black lotus cards or similarly expensive cards, too. < 1395493948 19075 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1395493987 733722 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck blacker lotus < 1395493988 269163 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1395494005 138205 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the cuttlefish should fetch info from gatherer too...
< 1395494037 556639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I never bothered to research how a mtg card exchange became - at some point in time - the biggest online market for bitcoins, but the idea is ridiculous to me.) < 1395494070 910118 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is very interesting. < 1395494101 582178 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this land's price is currently floating at around a hundred bucks → http://magiccards.info/query?q=misty&v=card&s=cname < 1395494124 276837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You know what MtGoX originally stood for, right? < 1395494136 752492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure about capitalization) < 1395494149 486284 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the power nine or something like that? < 1395494173 854033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an MtG Online eXchange. < 1395494184 837476 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395494209 137544 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is enlightened by the sudden revelation *angel and dæva chorus ♪*
< 1395494913 809044 :nooodl!~nooodl@214.99-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395495034 238057 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/EDUakzH8 < 1395495043 211068 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea why this bootloading attempt does not load boots? < 1395495044 105252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it was really just a reused name, afaik. < 1395495062 88448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never really was an actual MTG exchange, to my knowledge? < 1395495067 545567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not one beyond prototype stage < 1395495071 276885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just got scrapped and reused for bitcoins later. < 1395495079 191889 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395495095 151713 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trying to load in memory at 0x8000:0x0000 some code to make the screen white < 1395495099 657019 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so far no such luck < 1395495395 187717 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't go and break the effect of my background choir hth < 1395496439 408655 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1395496446 957869 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently boot sector is sector 1, not 0 < 1395496450 407131 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might the be cause! < 1395496620 593414 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeh still no < 1395496794 763189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first sector. < 1395496818 161946 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code still doesn't work though. < 1395496826 810649 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second sector starts at 0x200 right? < 1395496875 336321 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 830908 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831060 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831134 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831205 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831277 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831555 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831623 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496886 348585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496893 723024 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496895 770545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496899 823945 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496899 886597 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496901 193705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496907 630189 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496921 219960 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496924 865427 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pew < 1395497136 338390 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 335 seconds < 1395497153 222345 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497182 437676 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497187 507904 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1395497187 563593 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497203 888341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497234 867796 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497273 415157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497441 278791 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497750 766890 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1395497811 351253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395497816 73784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395498433 252526 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: how are you testing this? < 1395498456 737454 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floppy image put in virtual box < 1395498498 954440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION found with dosbox that the image has to have the right size. 180kiB works.
< 1395498500 592948 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also got it to works, yay~ < 1395498514 593051 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to the osdev people < 1395498775 881969 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/ajGQ42ii < all workin' < 1395498815 915422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ended up with http://sprunge.us/iiQB
< 1395498906 722286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. s/%/#/g in there. stupid last minute changes < 1395499037 755473 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could put my Pong code afterwards < 1395499126 597838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did figure out the sector number mistake quite soon, but the floppy image was too small, and dosbox didn't complain about it. It loaded the first 512 bytes as the boot sector, but the disk reading call would fail. Took me a while to figure that out. < 1395499304 296673 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395499348 564040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another mystery is that the code stops working if I load the second sector to 0x7000:0 ... huh. < 1395499913 1389 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that appears to be dosbox' fault. < 1395500033 364709 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500426 320839 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500528 352365 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500655 680374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. damn, I should initialise the stack before using it. dosbox apparently used 0x7000:0x100 ... < 1395500658 987518 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery solved. < 1395500721 322819 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395500827 107701 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo. < 1395501134 143765 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. http://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/code-0/3808/tree//dosbox/trunk/src/dos/dos_programs.cpp has a comment on it. It says: '/* set up stack at a safe place */'. That's what I thought, too... "load sector to a safe place". < 1395501314 162465 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395502012 745032 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sssh < 1395502085 563964 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat Secure SHell? < 1395502098 926361 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehehhehe < 1395502350 666370 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like , stop talking bout things i dont know < 1395502357 971426 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395502474 472162 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this room continually surprises me bu the conctend being discussed < 1395502782 208259 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: NINE HOUUUUUR < 1395504402 733083 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395504571 312957 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395504572 314287 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395504604 83874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, regarding yesterday's problem with MATLAB and an invertible matrix with det(m) == 0; someone had switched things from double to single precision. The problem went away after switching back to double. < 1395504626 466358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was even a comment saying something to the tune of "single precision gives same results but faster". < 1395504659 740834 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395504694 355279 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395504938 390509 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395505140 135456 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395505390 866095 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395505400 413140 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell him he's an idiot < 1395505448 904299 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be so fizzie < 1395505721 213375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had already left for the day, so I'll have to wait until Monday for that. < 1395506072 721934 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1395507450 188749 :Bike!~Glossina@24.221.58.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507611 297507 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507686 517876 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507936 362803 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dont you get big inaccuracies when det(m) is very close to zero? < 1395507971 520703 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395508257 535740 :Bike!~Glossina@24.221.58.166 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395508271 840076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very close to zero if I use double-precision processing elsewhere in the code. < 1395508290 329344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depending on what "very close" means; it's 0.0185 for the test case where I noticed the problem. < 1395508302 353687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not so close.) < 1395508345 484305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not really my code, so I don't know all the details of it.) < 1395509405 247482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, the sudoers man page is really terrible. Way too much work to read to figure out a simple "how do I let this user run exactly this command" for example. Wasn't there a recent xkcd about that iirc? < 1395509438 646588 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm resorting to "I remember doing this once before, lets find out on which system and then copy & adapt" < 1395509474 401167 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you reading xkcd? ( https://xkcd.com/1343/ ... image title) < 1395509494 429808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, ah yeah that one. Fairly recent iirc? < 1395509513 164934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, monday < 1395509565 900650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I blame my hazy memory on having a really bad cold from monday evening until thusday. Probably norovirus (I believe it is called in English) < 1395509644 648519 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1395509660 489603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: My thought was "this is the second complaint about the sudoers manpage that I've seen in the last couple of days" and then I followed that thread. < 1395509680 52841 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, right. But it is actually terrible < 1395509812 675837 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395509873 414167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's terrible, but "skip directly to EXAMPLES" is a workable strategy when dealing with it. (And even there, one has to skip over all those alias definitions.) < 1395509937 649521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, as long as there is an example that works for your case < 1395509945 195158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, you are in a LOT of problems < 1395510010 288240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but there certainly are some examples you can adapt for "let one user run one command". (Okay, the behaviour w.r.t. command line arguments is slightly hard to derive from the examples.) < 1395510033 831010 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is the thing I need though :/ < 1395510062 774711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not entirely impossible to guesstimate something that works from the "pete" example. < 1395510087 40498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least when combined with the "joe" one. < 1395510102 248730 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395510110 148387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, just "joe" directly.) < 1395510125 28035 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the fucking host part, I never figured that one out really < 1395510125 279170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"joe ALL = /usr/bin/su operator -- The user joe may only su(1) to operator." < 1395510196 671658 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1395510202 164133 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395510335 759722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BNF-based documentation could probably be improved a lot by just rearranging it more logically. < 1395510416 970472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it is, it needs quite a lot of spelunking to even figure out that one of those actual interesting lines -- like that "joe ALL = /usr/bin/su operator" -- is an instance of (the rather badly named) "User_Spec". < 1395510540 535644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they seriously do their documentation with bnf < 1395510566 464664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBNF, and there's quite a lot of text too, it's just all meshed up. < 1395510583 347413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha they define ENBF, then define the syntax by means of ebnf < 1395510599 757623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's I guess what the xkcd joked about. < 1395510643 463932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given all that formalism, it's quite funny that it doesn't have a start symbol that'd define what an entire "sudoers" file consists of. < 1395510761 284563 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-55.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395510783 31174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That part is specified in prose. "The sudoers file is composed of two types of entries: aliases (basically variables) and user specifications (which specify who may run what). There are four kinds of aliases: User_Alias, Runas_Alias, Host_Alias and Cmnd_Alias." And then you can start getting deeper based on those four terms, and guess that since User_Spec is defined as the first line of the ... < 1395510788 997998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "User specification" section, that's the syntax for a single entry.) < 1395510915 137440 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395510959 986873 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395511005 745577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alias ::= 'User_Alias' User_Alias (':' User_Alias)* | ... reusing the name of the nonterminal as part of the concrete syntax might also have not been the best choice, especially when not all occurrences of the concrete string are quoted. < 1395512494 540928 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch < 1395512680 107422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I played around a bit with the nixos virtual appliance thing they have on their web-site. Still not quite there for me. Spent 45 minutes on trying to make my fontconfig settings take effect (KDE settings, ~/.fonts.conf, ~/.Xresources, asking NixOS IRC channel). About to give up < 1395512705 199520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: okay < 1395512807 311054 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395512810 87640 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, still, I love the concept of the OS, will probably revisit it in the future < 1395512843 316744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats nixos < 1395512843 424919 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395512974 592879 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a really interesting linux distro. Ask elliott about the package manager. Kind of in 2 other conversations already so... < 1395513012 224590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking elliott, albeit poorly < 1395513022 890354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1395513040 10013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to be in two conversations, too! < 1395513061 710163 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395513077 666307 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395513130 23204 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :im in all the conversations < 1395513371 648192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course nixos has a website which may already answer your questions < 1395513495 462823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah but this channel is the premium interactive version of the web. < 1395513544 413749 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just doing my part by stating the obvious. :-P < 1395513788 937652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait it's premium? < 1395513795 193233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't payed anything, am i a pirate < 1395514322 317463 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514489 797370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: don't worry, your bill will be in the mail. < 1395514678 474595 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514796 485285 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395514829 133350 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514932 344449 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395515087 35627 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395515198 332477 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395515381 41048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395517768 336561 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395517934 798332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395518103 196315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395518615 44281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395520259 23477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some made-up-Pokemon-card. One of them is: [TRAINER] Play an evolution card in opponent's trash onto a card on his side which it can evolve from. < 1395520310 843567 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395520409 815444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one is: Put a card from your hand or trash or an energy card attached to one of your pokemon with your side cards. (Cannot be used if you already have 6 side cards.) < 1395520427 145885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these thiings? < 1395520591 229039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one is similar to POKEMON FLUTE but it is for evolution cards instead. It might prevent opponent from attacking/retreating due to lack of energy cards, or affect their powers, or can change their weakness/resistance. < 1395520680 2228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one seems weak to me < 1395520692 119954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many decks don't really play evolution cards < 1395520694 110274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if they do, they may not end up in trash < 1395520702 489548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work if you could search your opponent's deck for one < 1395520732 781347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (re your message) yes, that's believable, and unfortunate < 1395520738 605519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, although remember these are designed for the old game, not the modern one. < 1395520747 258508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people used evolutions even less in the old game < 1395520762 653639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the best decks was one that just played as many high-HP basics as possible < 1395520783 351505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although yes, allowing to search in their draw pile as well as trash would certainly make it more powerful. < 1395520811 391757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"side cards" = Prize cards? < 1395520821 14827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes it is another name for that < 1395520832 381835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not playing many evolution cards also would seem good for drafts and stuff like that < 1395520857 310777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that second trainer seems very weak, especially because it doesn't do anything else < 1395520862 194629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, not only do you go down a Prize < 1395520870 852763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also have to play the card itself < 1395520878 876909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it also drew you a card, then that would be less bad < 1395520891 466259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe it'd be used by a deck that wanted the effect < 1395521013 227552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it can help in the right circumstancse if you don't also draw a card. One thing you can get the card back, but maybe you also want to get rid of the card from where it currently is In the right circumstances it can be of much help, if your strategy is around getting the card you need, otherwise you may lose time and the opponent may gain time. < 1395521014 421987 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Relatedly, doing the encode fully in memory is somewhat uncomfortable with multi-gigabyte outputs like that (especially with Java's annoying -Xmx setting requirement to actually use available RAM) < 1395521040 866277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I didn't actually realise that people would produce multiple-gigabyte outputs with jettyplay < 1395521055 523954 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I figured :-) < 1395521162 388306 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395521170 116868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, jettyplay allows pluggable container formats < 1395521171 974926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :POKEMON FLUTE can be helpful to get opponent's cards that have powers that benefit you. It can also help if it is a card with a high retreat cost, use GUST OF WIND to activate it and stop them from retreating, especially if you have card that can attack bench pokemon cards. < 1395521172 884828 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it also crashed quite quickly when using 720p without ZMBV, hang on < 1395521173 489996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just AVI is the only one I implemented < 1395521183 24140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that's pretty much inevitable < 1395521188 879325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just running out of memory to store uncompressed video < 1395521197 469945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the raw option's only there because I implemented it first for testing < 1395521198 907340 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean like on the first frame or so < 1395521210 365747 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on while I try to reproduce < 1395521210 821374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one with evolution cards, you could evolve opponent's cards to increase their retreat cost, but also to affect their weakness/resistance, for example EEVEE evolving into many different card with different weakness/resistance. < 1395521237 278907 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Pixel stride times width must be less than or equal to the scanline stride < 1395521244 957852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395521254 164954 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On frame 2, actually, according to the dialog < 1395521263 263672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or then it's frame 1 and it updated the dialog early < 1395521298 398251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cards although ordinarily don't help much, can be extremely good in the correct circumstances. < 1395521380 169315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and such cards normally aren't worth the opportunity cost of drawing them < 1395521415 154810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the rest of the cards in the deck, they can be; I have had these experiences a lot. < 1395521429 836561 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Irrelevant of resolution actually too, I only tried 720 earlier < 1395521439 54776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if you are playing some kind of draft formats or other ways the cards are randomized, you may get it anyways. < 1395521449 682060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh that makes more sense, it's probably something simple then < 1395521455 639655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second card I listed can be very good if you are able to knock out opponent's pokemon card on your turn. < 1395521473 304399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knocking out bench pokemon card is best so that they cannot freely switch to another active card. < 1395521556 748043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course evolution cards are more difficult to play in a drafted game, unless you modify the rules so that they can still be played effectively. < 1395521986 142334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cards have some uses which are situational and some are common. Some cards have some uses which have situations which are common enough. Some cards which are good in some situations, can be good with situations involving your own cards, which is good, but then there may also be situations based on opponent's cards, which helps even more. < 1395522180 325363 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522190 959678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIGGER can be good in a situation where your attacks do more damage with more damage on you. < 1395522251 918310 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522438 358323 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395522533 699161 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522665 608959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOP GAS ATTACK can be good to get rid of opponent's powers, but it is especially good if you also have some cards with your own powers which affect both players; you can then cancel those powers too. < 1395522871 195522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you build a turing machine with them? < 1395522886 454189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1395522962 623078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this question was inspired by http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/ ) < 1395522971 114069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have seen that. < 1395523188 655896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Team Rocket strategy guide for Pokemon Card. It is really terrible; they totally neglect defense and sacrifice, and miss a lot of other things. They say CHALLENGE! is really good, but I don't think so. < 1395523258 439037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing they don't mention is that if you have DARK VAPOREON [Lv.28], and your opponent has a card with high retreat cost and high attack cost, it can very good. Especially, if you also have GENGAR [Lv.38] then you can move damage onto their bench pokemon cards instead. < 1395523321 476671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be a bit more useful if DARK VAPOREON [Lv.28]'s second attack did less damage, though. < 1395523770 793854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUST OF WIND is a very good card in a lot of situations (just ensure you don't waste it). You can eliminate the opponent's strong attacking card (possibly before they get a chance to attack, evolve, or use a power). You can select a card with high attack and retreat costs in order to gain time. If you are close to winning, you can even use it to activate a card you can easily knock out. And yet there are many more possibilities! < 1395523877 594164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also often a good idea to not knock out opponent's active pokemon cards, although this depends a lot on the circumstances. < 1395524660 440551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc6-sgyl21-0-0-cust62.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395524668 354081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc6-sgyl21-0-0-cust62.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395524668 411186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395525161 69374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it should not be surprising that the strategy guide neglects defense; another book I have says the same thing about books about chess. However, it still also fails to mention various other things too, so that isn't entirely it. < 1395525339 784718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I talked about that photo thing here, here's a quick average of all 25 photos I have so far (with histogram equalization to make it a bit less bland): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140322-align.jpg < 1395525349 496222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will play around with the column thing later. < 1395525558 386716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395525616 134207 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have to be JOHN to play GUST OF WIND < 1395525616 654979 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395525628 665540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1395526027 327601 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395526207 321318 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395526209 506458 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395526593 729299 :DaedricBunny!~Daedricbu@c-71-226-106-237.hsd1.sc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395526606 690343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140322-align2.jpg < 1395527456 245102 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395527476 196124 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395528439 111608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to watch The Best of Both Worlds
< 1395528627 65381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the Windows font viewer use "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" for some fots and "Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz" for some fonts? < 1395528648 101830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both sentences are pangrams, but I don't know why it has two) < 1395528813 423180 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529089 221257 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395529170 164410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529230 112730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529431 954112 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529719 130773 :Bike!~Glossina@24-221-58-166.pools.static.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529726 735700 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395529966 633635 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395530007 338569 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395531258 313751 :Bike!~Glossina@24-221-58-166.pools.static.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395531522 10212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you discovered some kind of pattern in the fonts where it chooses one or the other, e.g. about their format? < 1395532055 148366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395532400 682870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I tried to, but didn't find any.