< 1395878477 862705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(making an actual circular spiral left as exercise for the reader) < 1395878502 675981 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395878654 304013 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395878718 213881 :Guest73347!~simpleirc@2602:30a:2c4a:9e00:46a7:cfff:fe65:3b90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395878931 223756 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395879716 581231 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395881029 338252 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395881127 113197 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395881141 594837 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395881877 311716 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395882067 348207 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395882067 625807 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395882701 136956 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im JOIN :#esoteric < 1395882774 304969 :Speed`!~Speed@evile.thrash.im QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882775 753778 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882777 295231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882777 577999 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882779 319628 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395883067 623197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395884963 741936 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928695 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928813 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928884 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928952 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884987 398888 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1395884987 585492 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-htqrvwrexftdmwan JOIN :#esoteric < 1395885006 513206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to split, perchance to roam < 1395885052 448700 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest81902 < 1395885238 123740 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395885802 495169 :Guest81902!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur < 1395886086 105156 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395886965 238738 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395887608 865774 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395889337 377324 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395891740 361249 :adm420!~adam@162-236-112-191.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395891783 572241 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395891848 112561 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395892029 953236 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395892197 959680 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. < 1395892210 899066 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And has gravity) < 1395892370 719169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are giving me `addquote withdrawal. < 1395892383 159747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1395892383 583027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395892660 665490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it anyway and someone will grep the logs later < 1395892712 172046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I mention that Rust actually does have quasiquote!!! https://github.com/kmcallister/html5/blob/master/macros/named_entities.rs#L103-L110 < 1395892714 390213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but `pastelogs wasn't working even when HackEgo was < 1395892721 8529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1395892770 88779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iiuc Gregor didn't bother to move them to same machine - or worse, he may have moved them apart precisely to use less resources on each host) < 1395892796 339602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the logs to the same < 1395892858 13547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically Gregor is evil, and now he hosts the wiki too! < 1395892865 662230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1395892875 104336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought fizzie was runnig the wiki < 1395892878 368877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is running != hosting < 1395892888 8635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed running != hosting < 1395892906 969540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott couldn't convince one of them to do the whole job alone < 1395893042 367207 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADdicfted to http://animuchan.net/moz_game/ < 1395893043 210934 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395893318 244367 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395893340 567066 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395893408 279924 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game over. Deaths: 144 < 1395893415 589416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I had to restart once because closed the tab < 1395893499 939825 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395893610 58590 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original 2d version has different music < 1395893652 331234 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395893825 720317 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not a huge fan of the input latency < 1395893869 259394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 3d or 2d version, or do both have it? < 1395893883 38890 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you linked < 1395894011 188335 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try http://www.lessmilk.com/3/ and see if it's better? < 1395894021 858686 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just trying it. It seems to be better indeed. < 1395894103 570582 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395894128 348759 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395894135 568479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if it's graphics card related < 1395894138 146897 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894169 419140 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Died 127 times. < 1395894179 398935 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The framerate was fine, there was just a noticeable input lag. < 1395894232 498750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VVVVVV has better music < 1395894326 749731 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894373 399402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :78 times (on the 2D version) < 1395894437 669882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lessmilk.com/8/ < 1395894538 159802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am struggling with what looked like a simple game < 1395894653 588741 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395894654 428343 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“- you are not supposed to see this -” < 1395894674 148566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wouldn’t let me type that and the bomb dropped to the city. < 1395894685 231089 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894753 311002 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People in comments saying that enter works for - < 1395894780 718982 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395894794 458479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get that far though < 1395894799 218317 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gibberish trips me up < 1395894881 528682 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter worked, then it said “are you a hacker? -” and wouldn’t let me type the question mark. < 1395894938 320098 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395894983 878327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's possible to type the question mark, comments don't know how < 1395894990 318180 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the source, there are no sentences beyond that < 1395895012 648704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :llllook at you hacker, a pathetic creature of meat and bone < 1395895041 908172 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ugly sack of mostly water < 1395895250 724391 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bone so much different from meat, when you think about it < 1395895271 499623 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all the same color on the inside < 1395895298 281404 :adm420!~adam@162-236-112-191.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395895304 229529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bone makes better soup broth < 1395895322 859289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I come home and there is a pound of chicken feet in the refridgerator and this is why < 1395895329 809596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1395895356 162262 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bone is so complicated though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caput_femoris_cortex_medulla.jpg < 1395895535 820390 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395895887 468840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna write all the macros < 1395895939 573930 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's a big fan of paul graham < 1395895946 378899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffff < 1395895974 340469 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul graham is a genius.. he must be.. he is rich! < 1395895979 681435 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1395896016 299453 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon arc will have dozens of users! < 1395896043 409812 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry Graham is pretty cool, too. He invented the slap bass technique. We seem to have enough samples to make an extrapolation about all people named Graham. < 1395896064 339655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about graham's number < 1395896095 656977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's an outlier by nearly all measure < 1395896095 957989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck sylvester graham tho < 1395896096 792106 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost as big as PG's bank account < 1395896099 357773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1395896109 782242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he invented the graham cracker as a food so boring it would make people want to stop having sex < 1395896112 678102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1395896133 889153 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip Alexander Graham Bell < 1395896138 104167 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you explain s'mores? < 1395896151 468707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fucking understand why people get so upset about teenagers masturbating < 1395896154 992693 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: An invitation to debauchery < 1395896161 395413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll go blind < 1395896172 797422 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Zinc deficiency is killing our kids < 1395896185 101021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it healthier and more harmless than basically anything else they'd be doing < 1395896253 300072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an activity that feels good, is good for you, requires no special equipment and consumes almost no resources... WE MUST STOP IT AT ALL COSTS < 1395896284 339416 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to be a shill for the masturbation lobby < 1395896292 374357 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tell a doctor if you experience uncontrolled muscle movement, as this can become permanent" < 1395896295 590600 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. < 1395896300 21893 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do peopel buy these poisons? < 1395896311 39609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they're just looking for a handout < 1395896314 820511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :greasing some palms in washington < 1395896315 379291 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which poison is this? < 1395896332 201051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dihydrogen monoxide < 1395896338 979587 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abilify" < 1395896344 489548 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1395896394 299533 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I imagine if you're depressed the idea of uncontrolled muscle movement has to be weighed against crushing emptiness < 1395896417 29523 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know whas worse than the feeling of crushing emptiness? < 1395896426 128939 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual literal crushing emptiness < 1395896426 590299 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :abilify, jesus < 1395896429 319375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/pbowden/status/448579361353240576 < 1395896436 600696 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another side effect of abilify < 1395896439 56048 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trade names are a scourge < 1395896466 631304 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey it's got chlorines... < 1395896498 690111 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine people would be better if someone just sold them some pot or even some crack or heroin < 1395896522 557796 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you assume, you make an < 1395896592 270226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: bahaha < 1395896600 717095 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumption < 1395896620 19442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :disjunction < 1395896625 740684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess that something named "aripiprazole" is harder to market < 1395896648 190522 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also harder to say < 1395896656 547906 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best part about smoking pot: doesn't give you parkinson's disease < 1395896664 442302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my fault the public is inadequately knowledgeable about orgo < 1395896693 624447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parkinsonism isn't parkinson's disease. < 1395896726 832317 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395896757 579812 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I would say there are certain even better parts to smoking pot < 1395896772 419874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize that the side effects don't happen to everyone right? < 1395896776 859735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that crack is also known to have side effects < 1395896794 27043 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, kmc, this did not occur to me < 1395896809 399496 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including crack addiction and being fun at parties < 1395896819 576136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Isomerism huh, that's interesting < 1395896833 243494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good stuff < 1395896842 234970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof: you realize that not everyone that takes crack is fun at parties < 1395896867 576187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone that takes crack is mayor of toronto < 1395896867 919342 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Damn, you're right < 1395896869 654235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if orgo people embraced the combinatorics inherent in the field i would be one happy camper < 1395896880 381251 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no word on whether i'd be a high camper < 1395896889 170276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I had an idea that orgo synthesis is like proofs < 1395896907 116713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :long if you're doing anything nontrivial, and nobody reads them? < 1395896911 569580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1395896921 86300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a system of formal objects (labeled graphs, rather than strings), and certain templated manipulations on them < 1395896925 196066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still burnt out after learning cortisone synthesis < 1395896928 379457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to derive a result from some available premises < 1395896931 969733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this breaks down in all kinds of ways < 1395896950 239687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui a lot of the steps are like "this will yield between 5% and 95% and nobody knows why" < 1395896951 261011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, like when you need to do some spectrometry to verify that you've gotten the right product < 1395896968 733729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tell me about cortisone synthesis < 1395896979 289460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/CubaneSynthesis.png < 1395896992 554302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a biochemist nanotech guy in #lisp doing something horrifying with SMILES. i tried reading one of his papers and holy shit he was like inventing his own analog of proteins?? < 1395897035 260704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i was reading my intro endocrinology book and it mentioned that cortisone production was the hardest thing ever attempted by the pharm industry (this was in the 60s) < 1395897062 340481 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what music is playing on the 3d version < 1395897069 456916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the natural methods involved, like, getting several thousand tons of cattle, ripping out a few glands, extracting certain chemicals, and ending up with a yield on the order of grams, so i could see why they'd want to do synthesis < 1395897070 639722 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be encoded via LAME though < 1395897077 739998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://animuchan.net/moz_game/media/audio/music.mp3 < 1395897086 319561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane which would be the best explosive ever if anybody could manage to make it < 1395897097 727722 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i looked it up and it was like, you started out with this complex organic thing that was already produced < 1395897117 562484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane < 1395897121 743541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you went through, literally, over twenty steps, some of which take over a day, and half of which came with spectrograms to verify that it worked < 1395897124 589595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is an exciting word < 1395897138 231046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that got you a precursor, which through three more twenty-step procedures got you another compound < 1395897144 390975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that other compound had a known path to cortisone. < 1395897188 719670 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octanitrocubane sounds like a metal band < 1395897249 90224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I find weed to be pretty effective at treating acute symptoms of depression and anxiety, but it doesn't really help me in the long term when I'm not stoned < 1395897255 253377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in the sense that it's nice to have a fucking break < 1395897264 159713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's not always helpful < 1395897277 125858 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Edward_Calvin_Kendall_nobel.jpg edward kendall is watching you kill animals < 1395897278 851047 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ketamine works wonders < 1395897286 789540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently makes anxiety worse, although indica strains less so in my recent experience < 1395897290 230354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i've heard that < 1395897317 164900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to take 5HT psychedelics every few weeks and that was pretty effective too, but I don't think I'm up for it anymore < 1395897336 920622 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie should make an IUPAC name generator < 1395897356 938545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, tetrahedrane is harder to synthesize than truncated icosahedron -ane < 1395897420 594783 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395897471 992838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci00062a010 hell fucking yes < 1395897499 841454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i asked you guys which game i should play next you all either said Braid or Bastion. No one picked Limbo. And Limbo is so much more fun than Braid. < 1395897542 762383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say either one < 1395897602 729759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait CBD isn't a scheduled drug at all? interesting < 1395897611 749740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's derived from the demon reefer, of course < 1395897668 123647 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, what makes something "bad" is actually its origin. < 1395897690 730880 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I use only pipes made of free-range lead. < 1395897715 761590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TMS-tetrahedrane-3D-vdW.png "sup" < 1395897716 699895 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Yet It Moves is pretty fun < 1395897721 927317 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1395897769 495566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol#Isomerism i like how different isomers are scheduled differently < 1395897839 542306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually now that i think about it that's another flaw with the labeled graphs thing, you need to distinguish isomers... < 1395897893 900317 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Colorings! < 1395897908 389756 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain? < 1395897923 359638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395897932 765564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coming up with a good formal model of the molecules is non-trivial, but could be done < 1395897937 250151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what systemic naming is already about < 1395897945 732649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think formally modeling the reaction steps is the really hard part < 1395897953 839915 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. I was just thinking that colorings of the graphs could be used to represent isomers < 1395897967 491501 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm seriously pretty skeptical that IUPAC nomenclature is actually used for anything more complicated than like, dopamine < 1395897985 34927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god i have no idea how organic reactions work. < 1395897999 954793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear in orgo 1 classes you have to memorize a shitload of reactions because they don't tell you the theory until orgo 2 ;_; < 1395898065 480220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395898088 249541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i can fix this with a bit of pauling, who explains quantum before table salt < 1395898089 759391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Limbo reminded me of ayim at times < 1395898109 450971 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I could see that < 1395898118 231934 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: but ayim plays in one hour, while Limbo manages to last 3. < 1395898128 111693 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair < 1395898134 159205 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Pauling is awesome < 1395898137 930413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also at my school ochem was at 9 in the morning and was one of the few classes with in-class tests and quizzes < 1395898142 140132 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not exactly into chem < 1395898163 455285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i have an undergrad textbook he wrote. < 1395898168 526482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda dated but still pauling < 1395898192 679278 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yep, chemistry education seems to pretend that injecting a book in your head is the important part. < 1395898206 261049 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so sad! i honestly love the theory < 1395898235 301265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can kind of understand why they'd want to back away from it, you need to be able to do like, quantum electrothermodynamics < 1395898256 971506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, honestly, in my not-fully-a-chemist career i'm never going to use, so < 1395898331 21550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: as long as you know enough to synthesize LSD for me < 1395898360 169209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"following a recipe without burning myself alive" will hopefully be in my capabilities < 1395898369 568537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. complicated < 1395898373 817133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i ddid nearly go into lab in shorts today... < 1395898377 139179 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.souleye.se/adventure music by the person who made VVVVVV music, including remixes of the VVVVVV songs < 1395898378 499506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1395898406 255948 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we actually weren't working with anything caustic, lol. just some dye < 1395898446 929543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This album contains, among other things, the two missing tracks from VVVVVV 2.0 that didn't make it to PPPPPP, the remix of Predestined Fate that was in VVVVVV 3DS, the completely reworked VVVVVV tracks used in the game Pulsen, remixes of game tunes my friends wanted me to make, polished up material from my site, entirely NEW content AND secret bonus tracks! " < 1395898463 419417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one day you'll be a grad student and you'll have to be a TA for Intro Chem Lab For People Who Don't Give A Fuck < 1395898582 555771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to TA something, that's for sure < 1395898590 692055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of regret being good at math because what if i get a job TAing math? < 1395898625 569610 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: TA a stats class < 1395898627 540247 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy < 1395898885 494822 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395898927 6642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that grad students, as a rule, drink heavily, but do statisticians have a particular fondness for Guinness? < 1395898947 119605 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you ask? < 1395898963 937312 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t-test < 1395898983 229509 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%27s_t-test < 1395898994 159723 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%27s_t-test < 1395898997 69786 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. The test that was made by a Guinness employee. :) < 1395899098 840712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices he has no idea what statistics researchers do nowadays < 1395899112 563871 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get angry at sociologists, I imagin < 1395899115 43030 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*imagine < 1395899136 950885 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well everybody does that < 1395899165 753664 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ioannidis isn't even a statistician... < 1395899174 618812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean, so to speak) < 1395899195 39736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just random stuff hth < 1395899205 479140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1395899491 533660 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395899598 722486 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395899923 770989 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, FedEx, for that commercial, which would totally convince me to use your services... if it was the shipee that chose the carrier < 1395899940 847472 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it is < 1395899967 440419 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the merchant may offer you some kind of choice < 1395900032 738812 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1395900067 291802 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a roommate whose last name was Shipee < 1395900072 621826 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it two p's? < 1395900488 910922 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if anyone goes to Smalltalk places thinking it will help them with conversation skills < 1395900563 290572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if anyone goes to Smalltalk places < 1395900579 510944 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine all the Self places are full of aimless 30-somethings < 1395900593 783366 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all very interested in "Self help" < 1395900597 210747 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do the aimless 20-somethings go? < 1395900603 223245 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: Node forums < 1395901421 810713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: consuming some CBD right now < 1395901431 857324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :consume that shit good, pardner < 1395901435 433044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know which isomer < 1395901492 300672 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never toke without a spectrometer < 1395901985 241426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Incidentally, the wiki is now running on the same machine HackEgo is. (But I don't really know anything about hackbot, so I shouldn't probably go poking around trying to find why it's all "No output." these days.) < 1395902045 131172 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=559 < 1395902154 835800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah just fix it < 1395902186 481091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: fizzie made that < 1395902230 809580 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that his blog? < 1395902250 821444 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395902273 140961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's a collaborative comic site < 1395902303 911323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is admined by david morgan-mar, piet's creator, although the comic has no other relation to piet < 1395902311 4545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i like the idea that fizzie blogs in the form of edited garfield comics < 1395902333 672234 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the zem.fiz < 1395902345 271228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zem.fi is fizzie's site < 1395902366 621241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure he has a blog there, i just keep seeing post unconnected links < 1395902371 101491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*him post < 1395902421 10411 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something called a blog at lesat < 1395902424 36333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lest < 1395902425 420764 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1395902426 988360 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean with admined? < 1395902486 216009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: that he's the sysadmin for all of mezzacotta.net, as well as some other sites which are linked from there < 1395902506 523130 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i read "admired by" < 1395902521 652069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering how you could possibly know that < 1395902546 271370 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i first read admin -ed < 1395902560 611109 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Morgan-Mar only did some comics ther (found via te authors tab) < 1395902581 455589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :david morgan-mar's own blog, dangermouse.net, is _not_ linked immediately from any obvious place in mezzacotta though, i think. < 1395902636 627383 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll send him a note about my piet-inspired Floater < 1395902637 311692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: irregular webcomic was dmm's personal comic. he's starting up a new personal comic in april btw < 1395902657 917082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is manyhills? < 1395902683 957619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and darths & droids is not dmm's comic alone, but it has a small set of authors (all his coworkers, i believe) < 1395902699 395013 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still in the progress of making a mandelbrot fractal ans other stuff in Floater, but as expected my job is slurping all my time < 1395902703 652838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest on there is collaborative in some way or other < 1395902704 631592 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have to go to now < 1395902710 981381 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|aw < 1395902717 323952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jobs more like terrible < 1395902733 25815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1395902773 240872 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was the same way for a long time, and I think it’s because Achewood is so tightly character-focused that, if you’re not familiar with it, it just looks like a bunch of weird dogs saying weird words to each other. Turns out, those dogs are actually cats. Who knew?" ok < 1395902959 419452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't know manyhills other than from seeing him on that site, but i think Taneb knew him from some other place too < 1395902999 691958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i _vaguely_ recall he may have been here on the channel some time i wasn't. < 1395903009 693559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wasn't paying enough attention. < 1395903117 531815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hm isn't only one of the dogs a cat? not that i pay much attention to achewood < 1395903128 726016 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't either < 1395903179 931038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may be confusing with another comic < 1395903234 618171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i was thinking of get fuzzy < 1395903560 532012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought some of the dogs were dogs and some were cats < 1395903564 294550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some were other animals < 1395905029 195413 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395905143 383786 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395905355 351519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I blogified zem.fi the other day. < 1395905365 551657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To make it more trendy, y'see. < 1395905416 633035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Even went so far as to convert everything that used to be there into backdated fake "blog posts". < 1395905462 111577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1395905678 976315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVTTPMVCVTTSS2USMSKB < 1395905770 102808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCLMULPGATHERDSUWRFNSSDWD < 1395905770 381444 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense because i've been there before but saw no blog < 1395905803 10407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a quiz that gives you 8 fake mnemonics and 8 real ones and you have to decide which are which < 1395905975 355415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the next Flappy Bird to me. < 1395906000 241540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the IUPAC name generator, a PCFG might work better there than an ngram model. < 1395906135 783405 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395906425 761834 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395906456 459273 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395906727 936258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probabilistic context-free grammar? < 1395906878 742090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1395906894 572107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that they have so much structure. < 1395906909 781838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random pubchem IUPAC entry: 2-acetamido-3-[[2-acetamido-3-[[4,5-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-2-(2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl)oxyoxan-3-yl]amino]-3-oxopropyl]disulfanyl]-N-[4,5-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-2-(2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl)oxyoxan-3-yl]propanamide < 1395907076 675017 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get lost as soon as mido- :/ < 1395907164 112357 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about oxyoxan either < 1395907283 270222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of unbelievable how complicated "2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl" is, since the actual structure really isn't < 1395907463 281771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would all randomly generated iupac names be real/possible substances? < 1395907650 494207 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For improbable values of possible < 1395907660 521594 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those brackets part of the name < 1395907682 451971 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they indicate a side chain < 1395907767 593957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you might be able to name some that are physically impossible for reasons not part of IUPAC nomenclature, like if there are too many atoms to fit in three dimensions < 1395907882 591787 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the probability that fungot randomly generates the cure for cancer? < 1395907883 431652 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i get stack overflow... not a lot of energy fnord beyond the blade. except if there's something that is so, the whole design philosophy is based on < 1395907938 837835 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say you could probably put huge amounts of atoms in to get stupid shit but apparently cycloicosane has a known structure so fuck, what isn't possible < 1395907994 491823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the IUPAC for buckminsterfullerene < 1395908006 389077 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha someone's actually synthesized cyclohexacontane < 1395908022 324823 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C60-Ih)[5,6]fullerene, how boring < 1395908028 124080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some of t hose are subscripts) < 1395908064 261535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395908070 827268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cyclomagnesation of α,ω-diallenes by EtMgBr in the presence of chemically activated Mg and Cp 2 TiCl 2 catalyst led to the formation of cyclic organomagnesium compounds whose hydrolysis provided gigantic hydrocarbon macrorings with 1,5-cis-disubstituted double bonds." i don't know why you'd do this but it rules < 1395908107 701965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they made a fake chemistry paper generator yet < 1395908116 258397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395908123 582516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1395908133 941690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C\{60}-I\{h})[5,6]fullerene seems to be PubChem's syntax for subscripts, good to know. < 1395908134 289217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe this compound exists. imagine buckministerfullerene except all the carbons are just in a stupid circle < 1395908145 528949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OH BOY more markup ;_; < 1395908174 392647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also 2,4-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-6-methyl-2,4-dioxo-1,3,5,2$l^{5},4$l^{5}-trioxadiphosphocan-7-ol where ^ is probably superscript but I don't know about $l. < 1395908176 491873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't they just borrow latex < 1395908199 902997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be just using _ instead of \ afaict < 1395908201 714981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because god is dead < 1395908213 129431 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me tell you about SMILES < 1395908222 542494 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no freaking way < 1395908278 309733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cephalostatine-1.svg the sad thing is, compounds like this actually exist < 1395908307 485631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the iupac rules < 1395908313 37514 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«(2S,3R,3'R,3''R,4'S,4a'R,5S,6b'R,8a'S,11a'S,11b'S,13'R,13a'R,13b'S,14'S,16a'S,17b'R,19a'S,22a'S,22b'S,24a'R)-3,3'',13',13b'-Tetrahydroxy-5-(hydroxymethyl)-4',5,5'',5'',11a',13a',14',22a'-octamethyl-4, 4',4'',4a',5,5',5'',6b',7',8',8a',9',11',11a',11b',12',13',13a',13b',14',16a',17b',18',19',19a',20',22',22a',22b',23'-triacontahydro-3H,3''H,24'H-dispiro[furan-2,15'-furo[3'',2'':3',4']cyclopenta[1',2 ':5,6]naphtho[1,2-b]pyrano[3'',4'':2',3' < 1395908320 458480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that cut off < 1395908379 94164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, $l is λ. Well, of course it is. < 1395908415 401980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i take it SMILES is evil but InChl is worse? < 1395908507 911321 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i'm concerned they're twin horses of the apocalypse < 1395908515 841791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395908547 392122 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The InChIKey, sometimes referred to as a hashed InChI, is a fixed length (25 character) condensed digital representation of the InChI that is not human-understandable. The InChIKey specification was released in September 2007 in order to facilitate web searches for chemical compounds, since these were problematic with the full-length InChI.[5] It should be noted that, unlike the InChI, the InChIKey is not unique: though collisions can be c < 1395908589 606244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.nl/2011/09/inchikey-collision-diy-copypastables.html hell yes. hash collision of hydrocarbons < 1395908648 522657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't evolution basically a search for hash collisions of hydrocarbons < 1395908679 755981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually they're not just higher alkanes with a few methyls slapped on though ;p < 1395908741 605474 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395908757 772469 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909282 212911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395909467 804232 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909506 177867 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1395909509 551845 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395909527 834503 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909547 201023 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395909587 770344 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1395909924 623044 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395910030 386849 :password2!~password@197.78.167.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395910758 9627 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395911454 76333 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395912480 782527 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395912505 494405 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395912506 273821 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395912668 237802 :password2!~password@197.78.167.60 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395912886 642494 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395912915 113767 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395913087 563183 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395913281 5653 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-htqrvwrexftdmwan QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1395913377 625537 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395913637 642244 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395914023 444177 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915170 371376 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915364 566962 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915488 326963 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395915596 790410 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915715 930850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric : a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness of HackEgo | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1395915746 764286 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915833 482167 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395915998 162901 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Is HackEgo stil as dark as he is? < 1395915998 480710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916211 331524 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1395916211 610736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916218 291835 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916222 41237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asldfjasldn < 1395916222 322195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916244 993342 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395916260 911374 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916419 810613 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-hello. ihellon. olsnellor. < 1395916980 242670 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916986 841930 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395917237 680710 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395917258 307120 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395917595 362241 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395917895 606442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell programmers can search infinite fractal functions lazily using 100k green threads running EDSLs that compile down to native token ring mapreduce shootout cloud but they can't make two libraries build together < 1395917902 251616 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Couldn't match type `M.Map Int a0' with `containers-0.5.0.0:Data.Map.Base.Map v0 c0' < 1395917918 659114 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395917984 560755 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you dared using two libraries in your project? how plebeian of you! the Rightful Compiler was right to snob your code! < 1395918125 190264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when I started out, I wanted to use 16. < 1395918184 490602 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shocked gasp* *wild flaying* *abject repulsion* < 1395918241 280179 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the State of the Libraries is abysmal. we really should follow through the propositions of curating a set of well behaved libraries. < 1395918333 955122 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395918352 430458 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN BACON < 1395918420 750264 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/homeopathy-product-recalled-over-fears-it-may-contain-actual-medicine-9217206.html < 1395918458 874898 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the various "how to fix cabal" or "the problem with cabal" posts I've read, I've concluded that no-one knows what the problem really is < 1395918675 974407 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turned out that cabal had happily gone off and installed containers-0.5.5 under a new package. This made it impossible to use that package with any others, which depended on containers-0.5.0. < 1395919076 605664 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395920640 91942 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395920932 21552 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395921199 250632 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395921811 641639 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395922942 389826 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i wonder if i should release a qt lib for bf^ < 1395923227 900384 :scoff!scoff@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-gkpvojbrwxquflrw JOIN :#esoteric < 1395923388 796633 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395924182 378383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395925032 984378 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395925106 599956 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395925303 462400 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395925304 812190 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395926275 345008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Bike: http://zem.fi/tmp/iupac.html < 1395926561 825093 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a... chemical name generator? < 1395926601 149949 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't actually expecting fizzie to do this. < 1395926638 307561 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926654 309922 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you get a grammar for that? < 1395926656 577925 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926807 101797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926828 29925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just built one from the first 100000 IUPAC names of PubChem. < 1395926857 230488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with an a priori structure, that is; no fancy grammar induction there. < 1395927044 910067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that are like "1" are quite boring, but that's more or less a limitation of the framework; there are a number of names that consist of a single "component", and there are a number of dash-separated components that consist of a single digit, so the resulting PCFG will have a reasonably high likelihood for generating a single-digit name, since it can't model dependencies like that. < 1395927517 360052 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN (this one is just perfect): https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21g6sx/i_am_a_tax_attorney_here_is_what_the_irs_notice/cgctrb8 < 1395927883 816078 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395928182 130227 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395928242 698216 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, thank you again for your DF anthracite mod < 1395928715 641703 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395929096 811783 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395929641 328466 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. "The State is an engineering problem, not a social problem." < 1395929725 336515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, whatever. < 1395929742 636102 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Social engineering, the best engineering < 1395929774 632439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author lists the wrong kind of tools < 1395930977 491386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395931063 941110 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395932251 284385 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1395932697 393068 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395933819 696395 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395933824 70141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, your welcome < 1395934040 115422 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395934129 164023 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilzggwrwopngbrvi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934339 291166 :password2!~password@197.78.152.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934441 521331 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934545 355174 :password2!~password@197.78.152.90 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395934813 780987 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395935139 298678 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395935408 320294 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395935536 539574 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395936263 80768 :Slereah!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395936263 267738 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395936380 486522 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395936882 131551 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395937284 8911 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937712 351779 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395937739 452391 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937745 995473 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395937753 309793 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937908 676141 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395938161 712415 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395938271 382131 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395938694 219246 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a language thats not on the wiki: http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/2014/puzzle-solution/callooh_callay_world/ < 1395938851 420804 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395938978 921641 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395939010 349866 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The remainder is tweedled, then "unzipped" (modged), and then frolicked < 1395939013 670285 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like < 1395939260 370900 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941189 270266 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395941281 38719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote this an age ago, when I was taking undergrad intro physics https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/9813132 < 1395941288 868632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces output like http://mathb.in/14776 < 1395941617 363085 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941618 909722 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941682 770165 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395941711 739346 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1395941777 459700 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395941866 594935 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395941975 598495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh I'd forgotten about srand (time ^ $$ ^ unpack "%L*", `ps axww | gzip -f`); < 1395941989 506734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was at one point recommended by the perl documentation, for cryptographic purposes even http://perldoc.perl.org/5.12.2/functions/srand.html < 1395942023 981319 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hahaha < 1395942026 397235 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that < 1395942262 888875 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be even better if you could state where you start and where you want to end < 1395942398 111874 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942460 213036 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942484 737678 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942675 974870 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395943216 870332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's fun how these two C functions produce completely different results: < 1395943217 248226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t f(int x[10]) { return sizeof(x); } < 1395943217 434824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t g() { int x[10]; return sizeof(x); } < 1395943246 269170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because int *x, int x[], int x[5], and int x[10] are entirely equivalent as function arguments, but not elsewhere < 1395943353 590451 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1395944020 720435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that any surprising? < 1395944113 519164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what about int x[][10]? < 1395944342 833265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :srand (time ^ $$ ^ unpack "%L*", `ps axww | gzip -f`); <-- lol < 1395944363 740526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as an argument? that'd be the same as int **x I think < 1395944397 548447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I think it's pretty weird and bad; it doesn't surprise me anymore because I know C well < 1395944474 59428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, it would be the same as int (*x)[10]. < 1395944493 9616 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer and int have same size , no? < 1395944495 268742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't that the same as int **x, when used as a function argument? < 1395944506 288799 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, c is weird and bad :p < 1395944513 899532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: not guaranteed, and often not in practice < 1395944520 772692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1395944522 299431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example on amd64 linux < 1395944523 352076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:22:38] ,cc size_t f(int x[][10]) { return sizeof *x; } printf("%zu", f(0)); < 1395944526 828865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:22:40] fizzie: 40 < 1395944535 19503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395944539 258552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I see < 1395944548 319574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:23:09] ,cc size_t f(int **x) { return sizeof *x; } printf("%zu", f(0)); < 1395944551 348697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:23:11] fizzie: 8 < 1395944552 988430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For completeness. < 1395944556 319570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even weirder -_- < 1395944566 248804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: who is manyhills < 1395944576 460940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume int x[10][10] would work the same? < 1395944591 668238 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason why i hate c < 1395944602 659467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's only the "first level" of arrayness that is altered to be a pointer in a function parameter. < 1395944604 519285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: if you need a pointer-size integral type there's intptr_t and uintptr_t < 1395944609 849377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ptrdiff_t < 1395944671 869918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With intptr_t/uintptr_t, it's good to keep in mind that the only guaranteed use is from an arbitrary (object) pointer to (u)intptr_t and back again; not from an arbitrary-valued (u)intptr_t to pointer. < 1395944693 310283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some other examples of bizarre and surprising behavior from C? maybe in the spirit of the JavaScript "Wat" talk < 1395944699 828577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer promotion rules for sure... < 1395944750 327306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chars aren't very good characters"\ < 1395944785 798401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the rules involving mixed signed/unsigned values are quite confusing. < 1395945039 269369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact (disclaimer: from memory, haven't checked): glibc implements some of the functions (int isprint(int) etc.) using a pointer to the 128th element of a 384-element look-up table, because those are spec'd to take an 'unsigned char' value as an int but presumably people on plain-char-is-signed systems kept passing negative numbers instead. < 1395945101 308720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, the fact that isprint(c) for a char c can be undefined is surprising? < 1395945312 838704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("In all cases the argument is an int, the value of which shall be representable as an unsigned char or shall equal the value of the macro EOF. If the argument has any other value, the behavior is undefined." C11 7.4p1) < 1395945328 304518 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex pointer arithmetic that's just as hard to port to a high language as spaghetti code < 1395945394 788753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the function-returning-a-pointer-to-function syntax is p. horrible, but maybe it doesn't coun as "bizarre and surprising". < 1395945485 300239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int (*f(long))(char); declares 'f' as a function that takes one long as an argument, and returns an int (*)(char), i.e., a pointer to a function that takes a char and returns an int. < 1395945512 517036 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it counts as bizarre fo sho < 1395945645 458668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's the "pointer to a function can't be converted to void *" thing, but maybe that's somewhat mild. < 1395945734 329317 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also the function-returning-a-pointer-to-function syntax <- solved that with subclassing < 1395945740 877655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally set my laptop up to use my bouncer < 1395945760 311517 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395945794 356887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what "subclassing" means in the context of C. < 1395945833 8549 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in context of a higher language < 1395945841 223280 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when porting code < 1395945855 531567 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, on the other hand, i hate, how, in high languages, you can't fill an array with 64 bytes and then just 'read' 16 floats from it < 1395945905 659388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, signed char is a good one < 1395945906 979210 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time-consuming conversions required where no conversion is actually necessary < 1395945954 113146 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395945990 949525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them BSDs define a "dlfunc" that's exactly like dlsym except it returns a dlfunc_t, an unspecified pointer-to-function type. < 1395945995 268880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: a lot of things like that in C are not technically allowed, and they happen to work on most common systems, but the compiler is within its rights to slap you for it (i.e. produce code you would consider "buggy" or even perversely wrong) < 1395945998 869166 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good thing that high-level languages don't let people like you think you can coerce values wherever you want < 1395946005 654211 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r)(tm) < 1395946057 138203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Rust lets you go between byte-vector and string with no copy -- it's just a cast, and (in one direction) a scan to make sure it's valid UTF-8 < 1395946070 320512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is safe < 1395946093 179641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things like that cause x86-specific code to fail when compiled on a system that cares about alignment. (The university computer science classrooms used to be all SPARC, and it was quite the nest of SIGBUS.) < 1395946113 18645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unfortunate that the str API exposes its UTF-8-ness, though < 1395946123 679000 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think std::string is now officially required to give you free casts to char const* < 1395946125 484606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's full of functions that operate on byte offsets and can fail at runtime < 1395946141 171938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: interesting; does that mean they need to store a NULL byte always? < 1395946149 608201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust strings are not like that and so .with_c_str or whatever can copy :/ < 1395946158 960360 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nobody cried because every stdlib did that already < 1395946174 509562 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually my alignment requirements are all aligned < 1395946206 9948 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to learn that ARM now silently makes unaligned accesses work, like x86 does < 1395946232 860792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Was it ARM where you could have a misaligned read silently return a rotated result? < 1395946268 128227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I think ARMv5 raised an exception < 1395946379 808053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anecdotal information from random forum: "In fact none of [the ARM cores] complains by default. Some return rotated data, some others force the two LSB to 0. Some allow to trap unaligned access, others don't." < 1395946399 369934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395946407 828266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought ISAs were generally supposed to be free of undefined behavior < 1395946443 99474 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.jpeg < 1395948141 191096 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395949640 990083 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395949944 58946 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395950092 435741 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh.. who ever told you such a thing? :) < 1395950142 199989 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of archs leave undefined behavior, like requiring the compiler to fill a delay slot with an instruction after a load or get undefined results < 1395950157 788196 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives wiggle room for future optimization < 1395950185 418234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395950208 125174 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: aligned accesses, ARM cpus often have a register to control if they should trap or be handled. < 1395950250 638206 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also unaligned access on ARM prob does something you dont expect (ie. the rotation of the unaligned data) < 1395950250 948437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's more like unspecified behavior than undefined behavior, as C uses those terms, right? < 1395950293 703345 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm.. i dont know. my guess would be more like C undefined behavior... < 1395950295 930719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the slot after a load you might read the old value or the new one or some garbage, but it won't render the entire program from that point on meaningless < 1395950310 429254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that not the case? < 1395950324 224447 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about a more aggressive optimization that does speculative computation with O-O-O and reordering? < 1395950340 523063 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt that sometimes lead to pretty unpredictable corruption of your future program? < 1395950356 172091 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honeslty I dont know the answer.. would have to look at the fine print < 1395950516 458574 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1395950657 47841 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395950658 478079 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjwRe8sIIAAryi0.jpg sudden strange craving for chocolate chip cookies < 1395950781 9609 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395951292 773161 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395951661 468366 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C528A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395951794 182683 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"James II supposedly described St Paul's Cathedral as "awful", "amusing" and "artificial" — i.e. worthy of awe, giving pleasure and made with artifice." < 1395952060 170162 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395952342 508701 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't use O-O-O correctly, you may get a... check exception < 1395952886 130208 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395953336 159426 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395953577 518241 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C528A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395953718 649608 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395953744 778168 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954005 343175 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395954137 553936 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954327 39092 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@72-161-30-182.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954656 172244 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 NICK :Sorella < 1395954895 258438 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my photography friend said "Cool! Nice results!" about your time lapse photos < 1395954911 839298 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that mathematica's array indexing starts from 1 (and not 0 as it obviously should) came up after class yesterday < 1395954917 309580 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mathematicians present blamed the computer scientists and the computer scientists present blamed the mathematicians < 1395954934 268046 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :each side having assumed based on mathematica that that was how the other side did it < 1395954963 740359 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395954979 139630 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math was invented before the 0, computers after < 1395954992 634795 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoulda blamed the biologists < 1395955032 959641 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was also invented after zero < 1395955041 282282 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: yeah that seems more correct, unite against a common enemy. though really we should probably just blame and unite against Wolfram. < 1395955053 540672 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point fuck that guy < 1395955065 240894 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say your blueprints were 99.99% done long before that < 1395955306 460496 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration." — Stan Kelly-Bootle < 1395955333 610617 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought dijkstra's argument was pretty solid < 1395955352 479845 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1395955633 406483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I function Dijkstra'sAlgorithm(Argument Dijkstra'sArgument) { ... } < 1395955659 180164 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's clearly a parameter, < 1395955719 758910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dijkstra'sAlgorithm(Dijkstra'sArgument); < 1395955792 911285 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god we got that sorted < 1395955927 40494 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the mathematicians present were all set theorists, so of course counting starts from 0 since sets start from \emptyset < 1395955959 209513 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about nonwellfounded sets huh < 1395956365 80849 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, the smallest set still has zero elements < 1395956568 149958 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... well................ < 1395956837 2099 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395956892 244507 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957194 291237 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395957257 498251 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395957355 420368 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957521 234722 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957842 70406 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957938 161126 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1395958448 367232 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395958658 21892 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1395958724 184110 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qonbvhktmnsgfeyj JOIN :#esoteric < 1395959437 966707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally had a game of Diana: Warrior Princess < 1395961036 933263 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395961435 843217 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although one of the players seems to really want to bind a book in human flesh < 1395961527 13667 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395961527 241626 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395961555 430276 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395961949 393259 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395961955 763535 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395962106 913588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is bf^? < 1395962111 253394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should totally do a Qt domain for PSOX < 1395963160 873804 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395963278 388248 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395963923 70502 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395963960 983621 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395964149 569621 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395964432 53161 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds