< 1397606717 217852 :Phantoom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397608377 91936 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION -> bed < 1397608737 477197 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397609463 519427 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: ORTHONORMAL CHICKEN < 1397609771 875137 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Ax14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39336&oldid=39313 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+1) 10Let's compromise on the spelling < 1397609932 503728 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397610082 404505 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck implementations14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39337&oldid=39318 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+13) 10I think a TOC is appropriate for this article even with just 3 sections < 1397610090 49051 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Axthetic < 1397610222 262223 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: what the hell is Ax < 1397610360 702322 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Keya14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39338&oldid=39321 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+15) 10wikitable and some rephrasing for grammar/consistency < 1397610376 673586 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno it was just added < 1397610389 427108 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand that article < 1397610440 243193 :cdchawthorne!~cdchawtho@wn-campus-nat-129-97-124-68.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397610455 676719 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't particularly try to read it < 1397610461 821563 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1397610463 523112 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't < 1397611177 566176 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07SSBPL14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39339&oldid=31003 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+48) 10wikitable, add spaces to avoid accidental table markup, consistent capitalization < 1397611274 246058 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope my defense of lens in concatenative was adequate/sane < 1397611294 889843 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bespin.org/~nef/logs/concatenative/14.04.15 < 1397611317 692905 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1397611386 654224 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Language list14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39340&oldid=39333 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+67) 10Add [[User:EzoLang]]'s list of languages < 1397611408 266913 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't argue with evincar < 1397611795 955891 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397611830 482518 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397612091 879784 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397612568 530264 :jjcoppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca NICK :coppro < 1397613257 554566 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397614065 907039 :nisstyre!~yourstrul@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3 < 1397615313 616400 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Nite < 1397615614 391686 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1397615621 863760 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1397615781 568381 :LucienG!~lpghatguy@host-69-146-144-8.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397615783 577261 :LucienG!~lpghatguy@host-69-146-144-8.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :p/ < 1397615793 168297 :LucienG!~lpghatguy@host-69-146-144-8.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lpghatguy) < 1397615806 470423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1397615946 540829 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the numbers here seem wrong http://primes.utm.edu/mersenne/LukeMirror/lit/lit_039s.htm < 1397616040 538600 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Table 1 supposedly shows the values of (3^(2^(2^n-1)) mod (2^(2^n)+1)) mod 2^36, 2^36-1, 2^35-1 for several n.) < 1397616510 997199 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sup LucienG < 1397617472 732013 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1397617474 553174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :audacoin easyendocoin sardinalcoin bacacoin soundedintercoin gooilcoin crtlasscoin codentaurehecoin iotcoin addlecocoin forceiccoin factcoin datedcoin paracoin ringthesquecoin ungecoin heitkeecoin daturncoin varocoin comcoin < 1397617794 445810 :JesseH2!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397618429 940445 :LucienG!~lpghatguy@host-69-146-144-8.msl-mt.client.bresnan.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1397620211 403429 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.mashape.com/nsure-io/porn-filter#!endpoint-porn this is the best startup ever < 1397621158 774154 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1397621231 307756 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397621936 798511 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Boxy14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39341&oldid=39335 5* 03Zerk 5* (+391) 10Ints should not pattern-match as vectors. (So *that*'s why I had it that way initially!) < 1397623911 164185 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/234iem/bitundo_allowing_you_to_undo_bitcoin_transactions/ < 1397624301 734999 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1397624688 652510 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1397624716 720399 :tertu!~quassel@143.44.65.14 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397627026 327002 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so some people are signing up to a mining pool with the purpose of destroying transactions? < 1397627192 830193 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn right < 1397627228 780824 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess btc has hit the big time < 1397627860 860467 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397628128 211633 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397628161 399852 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397628161 628781 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: bbl < 1397628177 373693 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is monad-peel obsolete? < 1397628183 311820 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should learn how those sorts of things work < 1397628311 974461 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397628432 446075 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397630975 541539 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: No route to host < 1397631018 408124 :AndroidKitKat!70cfa691@gateway/web/freenode/ip.112.207.166.145 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397631072 36228 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397631967 311893 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397633370 438943 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397634433 467711 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397635788 692478 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1397636415 932407 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Taneb < 1397636675 368161 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@27.253.115.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397636675 667415 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1397636875 915981 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi shachaf < 1397636938 275033 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just looking through old files and i found this line: "Oh, well *all* know that; / But it's undeniable Tom has the better hat." < 1397636942 759655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :good times < 1397637665 780556 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed/ < 1397637671 390943 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I have a movie to see < 1397637673 467564 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye! < 1397639106 345336 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397639403 392090 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397640082 310889 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qatjrgyhkbmgpvqp QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1397641209 319711 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397641225 265527 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397641240 238121 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have an implementation for maintaining some kind of balanced search tree in a database using triggers, where the search tree lets you search among rows of a particular table according to a key column? < 1397641307 781526 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this the setup of a "database in your database" joke? < 1397641404 591226 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: sort of... but not quite < 1397641481 208211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :database in database is different, that'd be when you store the raw representation of database not in a few files on the filesystem but instead in a few blobs in another database. < 1397641522 365334 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's an implementation of such a search tree already, I'd like to look at it < 1397641551 262814 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there isn't, then I'll think of whether it's possible to implement it, probably using a treap, and maybe even try an implementation < 1397641647 528587 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it is made out of relations, are you allowed to call it a family tree? < 1397641665 884669 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to figure out an X-in-your-X format thing referring to putting a handcrafted index into a database system (presumably) supporting indices, but couldn't. < 1397641706 375803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the database would have to support some form of indexes for this to work in first place, < 1397641730 130130 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this way you could implement more powerful indexes and indexed queries than what the database supports < 1397641741 911796 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also much slower). < 1397641761 544466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds the kind of thing you'd find zzo38 doing in SQLite. < 1397641800 535120 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I should ask zzo38 then? ok < 1397642293 629232 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397642480 475309 :nooodl!~nooodl@193.143-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1397643398 724212 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1397643447 495751 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397644057 451078 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397645536 512483 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397645714 14242 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397645714 669160 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397645930 320473 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF90597.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1397645930 644407 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF90597.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1397645930 852652 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1397646056 373650 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: METHYLATED CHICKEN < 1397646058 91326 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397646092 275949 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mona 250b intro for Atari 8-bit http://youtu.be/0NHaFS9YJBE < 1397648118 629224 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/234iem/bitundo_allowing_you_to_undo_bitcoin_transactions/cgtoivc bitcoiners ignorant of game theory, tragedy of commons; news at 11 < 1397648509 332702 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1397648715 699434 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that I've heared of cobol PICTURE codes, I wonder if our galactic sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha was named of one < 1397648818 468573 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397650273 844016 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i went to a prof today asking for a bachelor thesis i could make < 1397650287 787487 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mentioned i like esoteric languages < 1397650305 741434 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could make a compiler as a thesis project < 1397650366 102248 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language could i choose? also: would my own language (wolfgang) be possible without that much work? < 1397650417 661295 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :bffc could use some optimizations < 1397650441 984422 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :come on, be serious < 1397650633 87584 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397653353 989893 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1397655037 236371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1397655638 531259 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is bffc < 1397655715 900233 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfgang looks immineNtly compilable < 1397655812 752650 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the fuck was the 'previously closed tabs' thing removed from chrome < 1397655816 118924 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was so useful < 1397655892 908623 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that's why i've been unable to undo tab closure hmm < 1397655904 654981 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i agree chrome just isn't as awesome as it used to be < 1397656669 412406 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks Phantom_Hoover could possibly approve of today's xkcd. < 1397656683 151931 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true < 1397656703 844235 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :although ksp isn't that representative of real-world orbital mechanics < 1397656891 922870 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's in history now I think < 1397656922 488826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see anything there... < 1397656922 679414 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397656938 760157 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, it's under The Menu now < 1397657016 644826 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still can't get over them wasting half the new tab page on a completely redundant google search box < 1397657033 21153 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swear they used to be good at ui design < 1397657168 265166 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397657204 202635 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1397657251 165869 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397657797 110741 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Right, but miners wouldn't want transaction reversal to become a problem for the network because it would destroy the value of Bitcoin (and thus their ASICs)." amazing < 1397657826 312885 :Patashu[Zzz]!~Patashu@27.253.115.204 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397657910 42480 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.5164 this has a certain charm :3 < 1397657933 585798 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus it's even by a hungarian < 1397660079 531997 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Eodermdrome14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39342&oldid=35357 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+399) 10/* multiple matches */ new section < 1397660141 834389 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1397660146 30575 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like someone is trying to implement eodermdrome. < 1397660270 897759 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary stuff < 1397660316 311132 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Eodermdrome14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39343&oldid=39342 5* 03Phantom Hoover 5* (+177) 10/* multiple matches */ < 1397660544 14385 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: suggest a language i could write a compiler for, which is not awfully hard! < 1397660564 443303 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now that eodermdrome is taken... < 1397660611 811226 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1397660624 131078 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't know he's making a compiler! < 1397660637 642079 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1397660647 524550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in fact i haven't even looked at the page) < 1397660679 718206 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eodermdrome looks pretty hard at first sight. that may be because i didn't fully understand it < 1397660707 948937 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a timey-wimey graph of ...stuff. < 1397660712 259720 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that feather. < 1397660766 280073 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think that claiming i will write a feather compiler does not work as bachelor thesis < 1397661139 578401 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397661910 6391 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, eodermdrome's main problem, afaiu, is efficiently implementing the subgraph match algorithm < 1397661923 179411 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: if you invent time travel and all you get for it is a bachelor thesis then you've done something wrong ;) < 1397661931 113801 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: true < 1397661947 179031 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: i'd rather implement twoducks, then < 1397661975 524407 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Later < 1397662985 820489 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long has bf been the featured language now? it seems like ages < 1397662990 667784 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish it changed monthly < 1397663339 753560 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397663647 3994 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can make it change by making sure there is a good article about a language, and then suggesting it as featured. < 1397663654 408247 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that's my understanding, anyway. < 1397663807 453034 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1397663901 459329 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397664306 565696 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397664693 444112 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397666362 497408 :xpte!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mezbditcrtorlfiz JOIN :#esoteric < 1397666524 560105 :password2!~password@197.78.151.41 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1397666602 889778 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397666778 698945 :Sprockle1!~Sprocklem@199.167.25.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397666835 336924 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1397667014 812175 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397667024 936736 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : int-e: i'd rather implement twoducks, then < 1397667033 62474 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could totally implement twoducks by backtracking < 1397667087 991973 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make that programm that prints the sum of two numbers before it asks for them < 1397667145 512326 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397667296 48156 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397667297 636135 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397667370 830742 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :nuculaway < 1397667491 402629 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: freenode < 1397667491 632595 :Sprockle1!~Sprocklem@199.167.25.114 QUIT :Quit: freenode < 1397667514 132804 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397667517 828775 :Sprocklem!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1397667537 496857 :Guest72113!~Sprocklem@199.167.25.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397667537 687310 :Guest72113!~Sprocklem@199.167.25.114 QUIT :Changing host < 1397667537 687370 :Guest72113!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397667580 264044 :Guest72113!~Sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Client Quit < 1397667938 530922 :tromp_!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :printf("4\nPlease enter 2 and 2:\n"); < 1397668075 922687 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, no < 1397668218 664513 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're doing it as a thesis, shouldn't it be awfully hard < 1397668244 500213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for a bachelor < 1397668845 12314 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397668885 584359 :Sprocklem_!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem NICK :Sprocklem < 1397668954 268936 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397669288 835440 :nuculaway!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular NICK :nucular < 1397669330 369954 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397669345 816081 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397669737 63310 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1397671612 391664 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: have it print a random number. then, ask for input. if the numbers don't add up to the output number, destroy the universe. if the multiverse theory is true, anyone who observes the functioning of your program (which correspond to those living in universes that picked the right numbers) will see that it functions correctly. < 1397671640 260971 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting idea < 1397671648 566072 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397671656 267721 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It is probably mroally required here to remind users that entering values which do not sum to the printed value will result in their immediate nonexistence. This will have the beneficial side effect of increasing the number of universes in which the program succeeds.) < 1397671700 387794 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more people will questioning if it really works < 1397671753 96079 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they are more than welcome to test it if they don't mind having the blood of who knows how many entire species on their hands! < 1397671792 979069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may result in even less universes in which the program succeeds < 1397671801 934410 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's going to be awkward if your prng isn't actually based on wavefunction collapse to any great extent and you destroy everything < 1397671806 485903 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.167.25.114 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397671806 676392 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@199.167.25.114 QUIT :Changing host < 1397671806 676476 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1397671843 835658 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is critical that you use a real RNG. sample the CMBR or something < 1397672012 877594 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that collapses a wavefunction? < 1397672147 505011 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397672331 16831 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1397672936 511324 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397672971 666199 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea of waveform collapse is kind of antithetical to many-worlds < 1397673002 855344 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that differentiates one universe from another will do < 1397673097 158994 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the idea was that wavefunction collapse was actually the observer wavefunction being entangled (entrained?) with the observed wavefunction, so that probability amplitudes outside a particular basis are no longer observed < 1397673115 139257 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397673147 574427 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's pretty much it. but that's not really a "collapse" of the wavefunction. More of a refactoring. < 1397673158 61265 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean something that looks like a collapse. < 1397673164 83578 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1397673174 528025 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there't nothing terribly quantum if i get a RNG by sampling microweather or whatever < 1397673242 381784 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well technically there is < 1397673250 514733 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since all matter is quantum < 1397673254 130247 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, yes < 1397673254 862709 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CMBR reflects the interactions of the matter of the universe at the timescale of yoctoseconds after the big bang or something like that. it should have plenty of distinguishing power between universes < 1397673265 559627 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaat < 1397673269 771605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that too far back though < 1397673276 924649 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The CMB is from like 300.000 years after the big bang < 1397673281 563592 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you want to keep universes that are mostly like this one < 1397673295 408545 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: oh. damn. may not be useful then. < 1397673301 34084 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the only remaining universes after your twoducks program are ones where triple alpha never happened to happen or something you'd have a problem! < 1397673305 334073 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you wouldn't, since you wouldn't exist < 1397673333 472551 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two Duck probably wouldn't work with a physical implementation < 1397673340 625954 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty sad to know if anyone who actually knew quantum physics was here they'd be shuddering at me < 1397673343 820063 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: well, what your observation of the CMBR would really differentiate between is microweather state like you said, but also the time at which you chose to make the observation. < 1397673344 241696 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that depends on how you implement time travel < 1397673350 68306 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know QM! < 1397673405 518412 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best thing about time travel is that it makes general relativity non-deterministic technically < 1397673407 916089 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: suggest a random number mechanism that would distinguish between similar universes < 1397673460 542055 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know that much about MWI < 1397673465 459278 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: https://photonics.anu.edu.au/qoptics/Research/qrng.php < 1397673468 590344 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since it is deterministic, I guess none < 1397673502 211424 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :...good point. < 1397673510 540188 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Suggest a RNG that would make it look like we're distinguishing between similar universes to an entangled observer" < 1397673525 541348 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that kind of fucks up the whole 'destroy the universe' joke, doesn't it, since you don't really have multiple universes per se < 1397673549 266763 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well better to make it physically accurate than funny :) < 1397673555 61745 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a thing to remember is that quantum interpretations are not actually physics < 1397673559 262317 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are metaphysics < 1397673566 370235 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qrng.anu.edu.au/ i like how there's actually several of these < 1397673586 552114 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT :Quit: Starting tmux < 1397673591 515022 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "random" can also depend on metaphysical points < 1397673628 472878 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried reading everett's thesis once but it turns out ui don't know any physics < 1397673641 223949 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :random is not the important thing. the important thing is that it be something that is different in universes where different people are likely to pick different numbers. < 1397673670 478834 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the same across all universes that contain people < 1397673671 322799 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well between two different universe there will be at least one quantum measurement differing < 1397673672 672055 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1397673699 677641 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait so is mwi based on there being "actual" multiple universes or not. < 1397673707 772507 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define "actual" < 1397673716 194708 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is not "one" monolithic mwi < 1397673757 305383 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point is that quantum theory, due to various experiments, has found out that the theory cannot be, at the same time, local, deterministic and unique < 1397673766 436083 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to base my understanding on everett since it seems unlikely he said something dumb, unlike "what the bleep do we know" and suchlike < 1397673819 314632 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie it can't respect relativity in every aspect (not allowing instantaneous action at a distance), have the same results for the same events and be in one universe < 1397673829 961219 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's like, is mwi is based on there being one universal wavefunction, and what we observe as wavefunction collapse is locking ourselves (as subfunctions) into a particular basis wrt the observed < 1397673833 560071 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copenhagen isn't deterministic, Bohm isn't local and MWI isn't unique < 1397673841 346337 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's a bunch of others that break one of these < 1397673846 475218 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the "other universes" are just parts of the wavefunction in different bases < 1397675226 754083 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :lawspeaker < 1397675233 588056 :lawspeaker!nortti@nano.smar.fi NICK :nortti < 1397675245 875868 :password2!~password@197.78.146.190 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397675605 819957 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397675748 885399 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1397675808 140058 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-125.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1397675808 462548 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-43-125.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr QUIT :Changing host < 1397675808 653066 :sebbu!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397676256 240556 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this channel has discussions on strange topics < 1397676312 559073 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell I could talk about time travel physics for hours <3 < 1397676347 562402 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should try implementing an interpreter for a twoduck-like someday < 1397676356 679848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a quantum computer that allows closed timelike curves < 1397676358 108134 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :few things are more esoteric than quantum mechanics < 1397676371 554455 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But damn it's not gonna be easy < 1397676388 958231 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: BSc thesis in what science? and you want a compiler from or to an esoteric language? < 1397676407 711068 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess you'd basically have to run the program over his entire timeline < 1397676408 757377 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1397676420 907842 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's a way to do it for all programs, but like < 1397676433 176121 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing it for a machines where the halting problem is decidable < 1397676444 488280 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a Two Duck automaton < 1397676468 739302 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: computer science < 1397676482 422886 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: from would be more useful, i assue < 1397676485 37360 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :* < 1397676486 466535 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*m < 1397676499 541729 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1397676563 539222 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember someone wrote a compiler for K (the APL-like language) as his PhD thesis. That's of course impossible, because you can write stuff in K that's so dynamic that there's no chance to determine anything in advance, < 1397676578 888088 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :K is a pun on J? < 1397676595 823002 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :K? < 1397676602 967370 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he wrote a compiler that tries to figure out as much as possible about the data types and other invariants, and compile what it could. < 1397676626 604436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: probably. or maybe APLers just like brevity and so they choose single-letter names < 1397676633 581907 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is K < 1397676634 256890 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: i am aiming a bit lower than that < 1397676643 296803 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: it's a semi-successful APL-like language of whose derivative Q is used in business < 1397676649 77767 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure which of K or Q this guy compiled < 1397676666 562431 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i neither knew K nor Q but J < 1397676682 661766 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about C < 1397676684 310064 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: it's an APL-like that tries to be efficient so it like doesn't check overflow and doesn't upgrade values to larger types when they overflow, etc < 1397676710 118500 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then why use an APL like and not C < 1397676710 310944 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :has lambdas, has a smaller set of primitives than C, fewer higher order functions, < 1397676714 331510 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/C/J/ sorry < 1397676722 630648 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1397676750 170622 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So anyway < 1397676752 703447 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thinking 'bout it < 1397676763 55132 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think doing a two-duck like should be doable to implement < 1397676767 451398 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a machine that always halts < 1397676771 850677 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it semantically has only rank 1 inhomogenous array, though homogenous and higher rank arrays are stored in an optimized fashion. < 1397676786 880155 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the Novikov principle, to avoid weird time travel stuff < 1397676797 567351 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :You calculate the entire program in advance < 1397676810 999532 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then output each time slice sequentially < 1397676861 94794 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: that still won't do with IO < 1397676885 586078 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well you don't need IO < 1397676888 807555 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just use output < 1397676893 587133 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theallium.com/science-life/scientists-reportedly-close-to-finding-a-use-for-linkedin/ < 1397676900 42750 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's two-duck? < 1397676903 170167 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what fun is that < 1397676919 321235 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I don't think I can write an interpreter to communicate with the past unfortunately < 1397676927 878351 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b_jonas: http://esolangs.org/wiki/TwoDucks < 1397676928 938402 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two-Duck is a time travel based esoland < 1397676936 397292 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you get the pun congrats < 1397676953 88379 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't < 1397676985 736261 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is < 1397676989 108062 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME PAIR OF DUCKS < 1397676994 956615 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1397677024 519743 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds invader zimish < 1397677039 423817 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paradox) < 1397677103 894736 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I See < 1397677177 303835 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a quantum computer kind of thing it should be mostly paradox free < 1397677217 259676 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :no way. two duck is much more powerful than a quantum computer. < 1397677244 15419 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's because it allows timeline alterations < 1397677266 132436 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1397677267 811883 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you go the David Deutsch way, it only allows for consistent timelines < 1397677277 248019 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :without tiem travel it would be just an ordinary language < 1397677289 212498 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the quantum states sent along closed timelike curves become mixed < 1397677567 535122 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1397678441 825324 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps bonghits will fix my time paradox < 1397678510 839849 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVL1crIccRI < 1397678558 990114 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, no specific language idea for me? < 1397678606 166432 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you looking for < 1397678637 450637 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to write a compiler for with a fair amount of work < 1397678685 414199 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I'm just gonna pimp my own language I guess : http://esolangs.org/wiki/Limp < 1397678686 137698 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1397678697 428152 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I was too lazy to implement that one < 1397678739 844559 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought about my own language as well, but i am quite unsure how hard it would be < 1397678789 364160 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also define "a fair amount of work" < 1397678814 955430 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i want to make it a bachelor thesis < 1397678902 122095 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any particular preference? < 1397678912 50918 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like functional or procedural or whatevs < 1397678942 485532 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do think procedural are a lot easier to compile (at least if i want to compile to c or assembly) < 1397678952 202407 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tends to be yeah < 1397678965 966802 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cellular automatons also aren't too hard < 1397678984 19427 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like which language? < 1397678998 24376 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Game of life < 1397679007 576719 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The electronic-based one, I forget which < 1397679013 322735 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rule 110 automaton! < 1397679021 928637 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :electronic-based? you mean von neumann's? < 1397679023 198550 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ant-based one < 1397679025 731185 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe? < 1397679031 35112 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :conway's < 1397679033 531910 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :wireworld < 1397679038 276238 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, wireworld < 1397679039 349535 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VonNeumann_CA_demo.gif < 1397679041 494986 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pulsin' < 1397679078 214619 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullying automatons are fun, too < 1397679081 445890 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397679141 118289 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bullying isn't cool myname < 1397679144 483349 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they may be really hard to compile < 1397679189 215279 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i don't get what's special about limp < 1397679195 139885 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :except its name < 1397679197 162258 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing < 1397679201 818608 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it is miiiine~ < 1397679214 704868 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks funny < 1397679215 295612 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I just mashed a lot of the functional languages together < 1397679238 520199 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a lot of the greek letter based one < 1397679240 539362 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence the name < 1397679498 31611 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about pi calculus? < 1397679499 776350 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like < 1397679505 555311 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Implement it with actual parallelism < 1397679511 855083 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That might be hard < 1397679531 383554 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric : The ant-based one < 1397679535 107616 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :langton's ant? < 1397679547 25416 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1397679564 622391 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like make a pi calculus language for some quadcore processor < 1397679588 867525 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck is pi calculus? < 1397679605 66354 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pi calculus is the abstraction of parallel computing < 1397679678 899950 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :imo digamma calculus < 1397681089 435637 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read (part of) djb's paper "Understanding brute force" last night < 1397681120 848008 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about how a parallel computer can do brute force key search at a much better price:performance ratio than a serial computer < 1397681130 426309 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and complaining that cryptographers often ignore this fact < 1397681165 432043 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true even in a theoretical model which lacks some of the engineering factors that make parallel computers better in the real world < 1397681221 49832 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a lot of it comes down to, if you have a huge amount of memory then you should have a proportional amount of cores, otherwise you are not using the memory very efficiently < 1397681265 921308 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memory is dirth cheap today though < 1397681270 703771 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disproportionately to CPUs < 1397681325 129758 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is also slow < 1397681341 32008 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also shitty BUSs < 1397681361 290848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey do you remember that episode of the Magic School Bus on computers? < 1397681361 810976 :password2!~password@197.78.146.190 QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1397681366 471849 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bus was driving on the BUS! < 1397681367 516168 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1397681398 165887 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: general purpose CPU cores are complicated and expensive, but a circuit that just does AES and talks to some local memory is tiny and you can fabricate a lot of them on a single wafer < 1397681409 886431 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in this machine they're only connected to their neighbors < 1397681410 821482 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Switching to phone < 1397681417 750089 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the interconnect doesn't need to be super fast < 1397681429 160528 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1397681451 311448 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine if you had one small cpu per 64k (or so) of your 4-8GB ram, that's ~half a shitload of cpus < 1397681466 408779 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet it could play crysis though < 1397681469 42283 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're in the realm where a brute force attack on AES is remotely plausible then you're talking about spending billions of dollars on fully custom hardware < 1397681558 396068 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397681572 96308 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me, anybody got any good examples for this http://mnxmnkmnd.tumblr.com/post/82876163079/dead-theories < 1397681579 886386 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/DrFFzea.png < 1397681736 843446 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"one small cpu" that's starting to sound like the GA144. < 1397681782 330412 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it doesn't have quite that many CPUs, and they're p. small. < 1397681837 655904 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, is this a flow computer < 1397681897 508521 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike : Platonic physics! < 1397681901 4311 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is way wrong < 1397681909 198121 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that was the pre-experimental era of physics < 1397681909 705423 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know any. < 1397681915 815331 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know some about aristotle's. < 1397681923 942983 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, Aristotle < 1397681937 23900 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the whole, what was it, things keep moving because of wind < 1397681941 236334 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think of too many theories that are way wrong? < 1397681941 548126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh yeah, Aristotle" makes it sound like you knew him personally. < 1397681955 27915 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there's some charmingly old timey ones < 1397681959 907565 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ring-shaped electrons < 1397681980 552277 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, i was trying to exclude classical science, because it's mostly just old guys making things up < 1397681993 827799 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to real science, which is old guys making stuff up but having to convince other old guys of it for money < 1397681996 667712 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is he called "Aristotle" in english when his name was Ἀριστοτέλης? < 1397681998 216668 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aristotle aristotle was a bugger for the bottle < 1397682009 788704 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harris Turtle < 1397682011 140167 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397682017 466084 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: probably warping through persian intermediates < 1397682026 164039 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just europeans being bad at languages as per usual < 1397682035 724017 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :very possible < 1397682056 401536 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting that finnish uses pretty-direct transliteration "Aristoteles" < 1397682057 521444 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i think part of it is like i said, it hasn't happened so much in physics. < 1397682058 390313 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan++ < 1397682058 775400 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti : why is Ἄνουβις in greek when his egyptian name is inpw < 1397682078 57484 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be more of a thing that you would translate names for a different language < 1397682078 585417 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not that i know of. i ain't a physicist. hell yea < 1397682081 355344 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean there's plenty of wrong theories in physics, certainly < 1397682090 772139 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for the most part, they weren't like < 1397682090 993535 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some of the names we use today are based on n steps of translation, I guess < 1397682095 336557 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Experimentally very wrong < 1397682097 307679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if you were a scientist you had to have a latin name < 1397682106 48051 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite warped name is avicenna < 1397682130 76715 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey what about < 1397682134 600341 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lamarckian evolution < 1397682134 790966 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i was thinking of this because i was raeding a book from the 70s (so not that old) that put forward the folding muscle thing, which has nothing at all to do with the modern theory < 1397682138 605607 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Lysenkoism < 1397682147 287225 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lysenkoism could work < 1397682162 519423 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really a lot of scientific theories from the soviet union < 1397682165 280440 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamarckianism is kind of weird because of things like it being a huge influence on darwin < 1397682169 81972 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a Party Line on science < 1397682175 43462 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hence there was a lot of weird things < 1397682187 568052 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only major ones i know are lysenko and pavlov, and pavlov wasn't /that/ wrong < 1397682199 203178 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about < 1397682200 349260 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FREUD < 1397682202 581320 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So very wrong < 1397682215 781622 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or phlogiston < 1397682223 168162 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :they still teach psychoanalysis in intro psych classes. < 1397682228 209300 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know! < 1397682229 838570 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about individual (as opposed to gene) selection :3 < 1397682235 241637 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know why, but < 1397682255 20342 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: can opens up beneath us, we fall into an earth sized sphere made entirely of worms < 1397682267 754054 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1397682271 743910 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And HOLLOW EARTH < 1397682278 706217 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was big for a while < 1397682280 675718 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :was hollow earth ever a mainstream thing < 1397682288 625983 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno about mainstream < 1397682294 910572 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: oh, what about the theory that the sun was mostly iron < 1397682299 987613 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it enjoyed some popularity in the early 20th century < 1397682303 619253 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, i know some guys that said mountains were formed by underground gas pockets, but nobody much believed them < 1397682313 289257 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh i half remember that one < 1397682358 375017 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They had that one flat-vs-round on-the-river test about the curvature of Earth that got them the result that the surface is in fact concave. < 1397682370 931516 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome. < 1397682380 952848 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment < 1397682389 25871 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :aether is the sort of thing i wouldn't count, since it's how other waves work, and i'm gonna be honest i have no idea how EM works < 1397682399 766690 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flat earth theory hasn't been that popular in the last few thousand years < 1397682433 509495 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Several protracted court cases ensued, with the result that Hampden was imprisoned for libel and threatening to kill Wallace." ah, the scientific method < 1397682438 348453 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not popular, but it's had its adherents. < 1397682443 579452 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1397682448 799840 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe steady state universe. < 1397682451 650775 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It did have its proponents < 1397682455 283233 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back in the days < 1397682456 579942 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Baylonianmaps.JPG < 1397682462 486565 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fucking world map~ < 1397682469 72174 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :old world maps rule < 1397682476 514762 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the oldest world map < 1397682493 583605 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :«Wallace, who had been unaware of Rowbotham's earlier experiments, was criticized by his peers for "his 'injudicious' involvement in a bet to 'decide' the most fundamental and established of scientific facts"» is this like, the 1800s version of evolution debates < 1397682524 774746 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The concavity thing is in the "Other experiments" section. < 1397682524 965512 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's really just a little area around babylon < 1397682529 797996 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy cartographers < 1397682534 156205 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey lewontin wrote a bit about selection units, sweet < 1397682630 64062 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.tryidris.org/console < 1397682643 583543 :maurer!~maurer@MIMUNG.ECE.CMU.EDU PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know, I know, probably not esoteric enough) < 1397682704 765256 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey myname < 1397682706 810090 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about < 1397682717 120417 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Continuous brainfuck < 1397682731 767390 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be hard! < 1397682760 811353 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1397682775 118640 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck over the real line~ < 1397682791 334640 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess on a processor, it will probably be basic brainfuck < 1397682797 313845 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-29-210.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1397682797 504213 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depending how you define it < 1397682868 172338 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1397682875 508784 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't get it < 1397682909 408106 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just some vague idea I had < 1397682918 771843 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfuck that uses a function over R instead of a tape < 1397682939 825314 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1397682941 916848 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I guess instead of +- whatever, you use some basis for real functions < 1397682955 347947 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like maybe some Fourier modes < 1397683030 987440 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abstrusegoose.com/564 < 1397683032 507939 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1397683138 872315 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397683175 236823 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Fun fact: there are 20 trains currently on their way from somewhere to somewhere else in Finland. (VR has an "open data" feed of their current positions.) < 1397683197 178122 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's not very many; but it is 00:20am, maybe there's more during the day.) < 1397683230 262875 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many of the conductors are drunk though < 1397683266 597077 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :istr when we discussed continuous brainfuck, the +->< commands were like infinitesimals, and then you put them in a loop to get larger effects. < 1397683321 130640 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well if they're infinitesimals you can't add them up to larger effects < 1397683322 571880 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, that is rather few < 1397683323 866488 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure a proper semantics was made. probably would involve differential equations. < 1397683326 644852 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume that doesn't include the Helsinki Metro < 1397683329 298058 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the whole point of infinitesimals! < 1397683340 684207 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :subway trains aren't trains, duh < 1397683341 188635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes you can, if you add infinitely many of them! < 1397683347 532300 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :They break the Archimedian properties < 1397683352 699436 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it isn't run by VR < 1397683358 416174 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah but then how will you define them < 1397683371 311737 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end you'll just replicate the natural numbers < 1397683373 442775 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Probably not, though it wouldn't be running at this time anyway. < 1397683375 191094 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a fancier syntax < 1397683379 171468 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :distinguishing subways from mainline / commuter trains is pretty easy in America, but quite difficult in some places (like Japan) < 1397683387 851430 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: It stops at 23:20 except on Fridays. < 1397683411 561932 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And Saturdays.) < 1397683420 681092 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: that was the intuitive meaning. as i said, a proper semantics would probably involve differential equations. < 1397683435 711933 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1397683458 153457 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically, you can't make all real functions from differential equations with integer factors < 1397683463 418073 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, nonstandard reals probably < 1397683469 444176 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also I think some diff eqs are uncomputable < 1397683473 994908 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: boooooo < 1397683478 992447 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :when does it stop on friday / saturday? < 1397683489 631099 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: i fail to see how this matters to an esolang hth < 1397683502 516465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: Last trains start at 01:15am one way and 01:05am the other. < 1397683504 960908 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it does for an implementable one < 1397683519 553152 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although < 1397683524 135713 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what could be nice is < 1397683529 936916 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing it entirely hardware < 1397683535 59267 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might work better! < 1397683541 191993 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just doin' it with currents < 1397683559 474442 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This Friday/Saturday extension is a relatively new thing, they started it in November last year.) < 1397683624 757839 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any neural network based esolang? < 1397683626 183481 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when does the first train in the morning run? < 1397683629 847641 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or other such similar concepts < 1397683642 795742 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :stopping at 23:20 is worse than a lot of subways in america :/ < 1397683764 31953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithm and http://esolangs.org/wiki/Wittgen are the only hits for Neural. < 1397683789 185441 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are there night buses in helsinki? < 1397683901 738152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last trains on BART depart around midnight or 00:30 on a weekday, depending on the station < 1397683911 117562 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last train from the airport is before midnight, which is annoying < 1397683931 646795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they start up around 04:00 < 1397683956 3266 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google Transit will sometimes give you transit instructions that involve waiting on a street corner in Los Angeles for three hours in the middle of the night < 1397683979 46748 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it would take to make a neural network learn the Fibonacci sequence < 1397683989 37343 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just input an ordinal and get the sequence member < 1397684038 720586 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the evidence of my brain, i estimate that it would take approximately forever, unless the neural network was also a nerd < 1397684054 921445 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if i put glasses on it < 1397684111 728110 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably needs a pocket protector too < 1397684233 271519 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: There are special night-only bus lines, about 5 of theme these days. They go in a zigzaggy way in approximately equally spaced directions starting from the city centre. < 1397684292 973651 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very many scheduled departures, it's something like (for e.g. the 400N line) 2:35, 3:15, 4:00 and 4:15. < 1397684301 491455 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :only fice? hah, small town people < 1397684321 255102 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all seem to be also Friday-and-Saturday-only. < 1397684330 569844 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more so < 1397684367 547923 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :in some places, Budapest has better night buses than day ones < 1397684400 968122 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should start going to work at \night < 1397684414 908444 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The local non-subway trains do have some amount of night service. < 1397684505 871873 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the trains don't go during night here < 1397684510 310138 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, there's stop-on-all-stations departures from Helsinki towards Riihimäki/Lahti at 1:01, 1:31, 2:01, 2:31, 3:01, 4:01, 5:01 on the Fri/Sat and Sat/Sun nights; that pretty much covers the gap between the regular evening and morning trains. < 1397684534 11020 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nice < 1397684544 721594 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like that here < 1397684564 865835 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's less nice if you happen to have some reason to be out late on anything else than a Friday or a Saturday. < 1397684619 56380 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. it's pretty hard to go home to sleep on the first night of a Thursday-to-Sunday (pseudo-)demoscene event. < 1397684626 427661 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : that sounds invader zimish <-- zzo38 is invader zim? < 1397684639 997681 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Probably my only regular reason for interfacing with late-night public transportation.) < 1397684733 862673 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the trains and non-urban buses stop during night so much that there's an instant each night when all passenger trains and all non-urban buses in the country are stopped. < 1397684753 609234 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's hard to be sure about that for the buses, with these stupid timetables < 1397684903 668480 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.theallium.com/science-life/scientists-reportedly-close-to-finding-a-use-for-linkedin/ <-- subtle hostname, there < 1397684917 377592 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1397684938 980974 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though now that we live where we live, the last years I've just used the bicycle paths that run next to the train tracks. Summer nights/early mornings here are quite good for that; it's reasonably light, and usually refreshingly chilly. < 1397684960 751786 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus the place is for some reason full of rabbits around 03am or so. < 1397684982 761824 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I counted around twenty on a single trip. < 1397684998 750675 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's a bit of a pest problem with these "city bunnies".) < 1397685019 446186 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1397685024 477183 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yle.fi/uutiset/hunt_for_city_bunnies_begins/6284368 < 1397685039 987689 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :cuuuuuuute~ < 1397685067 654473 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things go ridiculously fast for their size. < 1397685076 273469 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew some good spots to find bunnies in Cambridge MA, but none in SF :/ < 1397685149 679271 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Helsinki to feed lions and vultures with city bunnies" sounds very exciting. < 1397685190 395420 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The circle of life. Except the bunnies are descendants of former pets, and the lions and vultures are in a zoo. < 1397685212 562488 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And humans do the catching and feeding.) < 1397685231 182054 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: easy to find out. does he have any friends? < 1397685234 151456 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The animal keepers at the zoo have also tried offering rabbits to the Steller's Sea Eagles, Haliaeetus pelagicus, but with little success. Apparently the heaviest eagle in the world, a beast with a wingspan of more than two metres, is actually afraid of the rather small cuddly cuties, which bear a passing resemblance to fur mittens." < 1397685255 108916 :kallisti!~adam@h83.172.18.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397685292 310462 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1397685387 954449 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: you know, i have no evidence on that. does his D&D DM count? < 1397685599 594530 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1397685992 464063 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are rabbits all over the place at warwick < 1397686003 124456 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw a ginger one last year < 1397686244 463366 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1397686278 97449 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397686701 724990 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i forgot how to sleep < 1397686721 726706 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, me too < 1397686727 579453 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to sleep now < 1397686738 900109 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then in the morning, TRAVEL TO THE HOMELAND OF PHANTOM HOOVER < 1397686749 372926 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, i am yawning every other minute but stay awake < 1397686761 112947 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dun dun dun* < 1397686785 433664 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I need to visit the Australian Commission to renew my passport) < 1397686808 232762 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, goodnight < 1397686817 45380 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, why is the australian comission in edinburgh < 1397686841 203552 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait i guess edinburgh's just closer than london > 1397687410 783307 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397687412 99542 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric > 1397687414 887320 JOIN :#esoteric > 1397687415 397264 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397687723 105259 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-33.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397688188 868959 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1397688754 504517 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1397688922 14521 :shikhin!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1397688922 676033 :shikhout!~Shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1397688969 291777 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397689436 124205 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397689495 793162 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1397689509 836878 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397689563 639727 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397689604 423145 :JesseH!~JesseH@oftn/member/JesseH JOIN :#esoteric < 1397689621 400869 :MoALTz!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1397689673 824591 :MoALTz_!~no@user-109-243-247-192.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1397690331 394162 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1397690601 400040 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1397692233 117094 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good evening. a random thought was floating around in my cranium. < 1397692253 290052 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know if jsvine published the Infamous Interview? < 1397692309 990362 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :never heard anything. < 1397692338 283286 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1397692361 512050 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone has done verilog? < 1397692367 189029 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1397692369 132706 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has < 1397692377 557278 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1397692380 751660 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :did ais523 use that or the other one < 1397692388 95667 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :vhdl? < 1397692396 709691 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1397692403 215687 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have ought to have did vhdl, but kinda dodged it. < 1397692425 365846 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never done any but vhdl looks rather worse < 1397692444 630487 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure both of these questions could have been easily answered if Gregor hadn't broken `pastelogs hth < 1397692513 995764 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbr: vhdl is refurbished ada. < 1397692570 289395 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never tried ada either but it sounds grody < 1397692668 341988 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1397692669 249068 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :~duck grody < 1397692669 514004 :metasepia!~metasepia@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :--- No relevant information < 1397692674 382284 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? grody < 1397692675 372064 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :grody? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1397692795 689235 :madbr!boulam@69-165-212-148.cable.teksavvy.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks just slightly more wordy in a way that makes it both harder to read and longer to type