< 1399593601 811556 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: your momma's a random factoid. < 1399593636 760470 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Hashes14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39481&oldid=35043 5* 0393.115.84.195 5* (+0) 10/* example */ < 1399593674 512377 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-151-90.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1399594335 92681 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1399594356 693575 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399594796 422151 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399595220 596367 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1399595571 625969 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399597382 419517 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone 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:shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399598784 251461 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399598966 794176 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399599094 701813 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399599193 871307 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Gs30ng14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39482&oldid=20546 5* 03Gs30ng 5* (+499) 10Reply to Chris Pressey < 1399599278 246638 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399599537 700845 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399599653 692728 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399599978 426805 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399600166 586378 :tromp!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping 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QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399613132 786905 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1399613151 124577 :MoALTz_!~no@user-46-113-151-90.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399613233 413077 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399613988 805712 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1399614087 438973 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover QUIT : < 1399616176 575216 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399616304 196636 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1399616529 397739 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1399616849 912574 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399616861 133983 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399616978 116215 :password2!~password@197.78.164.152 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399617129 157462 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 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245706 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Excess Flood < 1399618384 427330 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: JOIN :#esoteric < 1399618387 90439 :stuntaneous!~stuntaneo@2001:1af8:4700:a000:10:: QUIT :Excess Flood < 1399618507 361987 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399618654 197936 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399619256 112499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1399619262 257927 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399619700 333368 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399619904 276500 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399620197 475841 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : compiled for your viewing pleasure https://gist.github.com/kmcallister/67b3ffb982fa31eb9b65 <-- a view into the mind of a Very Sane Man. sadly not chronological. < 1399620268 652679 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1399620335 342183 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/EYT9clp.png finally < 1399620426 870836 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: now you can quit < 1399620427 234754 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the only one who feels weird about an erotic shop doing a mother's day lottery? < 1399620456 540976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1399620516 489070 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it MILF day < 1399620590 534938 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: doubtful < 1399620863 381226 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's V-E Day, in moscow anyway < 1399621015 754040 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :privet tovarish < 1399621059 595717 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1399621061 102895 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04aubercoin 07rnassingcoin 08intfull+coin 09ockcoin 02kipplexcoin 06shacccccccoin 13bdacoin 04stackcoin 07splcoin 08oortecoin 09snuskelloucoin 02emiacoin 06genheaperumcoin 13bogkcoin 04rvelyardshinrcoin 07traincoin 08poinecoin 09arbazocoin 02wallcoin 06alpotcoin < 1399621188 569061 :trout!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :pong < 1399621193 864805 :pong!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :trout < 1399621234 762217 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1399621275 448910 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FTL in hard mode without pausing http://www.twitch.tv/lethalfrag < 1399622194 996033 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu PRIVMSG #esoteric :as stealth, lol < 1399622483 742154 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nrwabeflpxltrxoj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1399624389 829399 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.153.170 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399625869 474209 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :today I passed a grocery store which displayed the slogans "My Mouth Can Make Sounds But These Sounds Are Not Words" and "Every Vegetable Is A Word" < 1399625922 579583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :I Have No Mouth But I Need My Veggies < 1399625977 129584 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1399627102 251339 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399627529 487145 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399627874 919489 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399628327 120450 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1399629082 246644 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1399629656 418908 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399629696 838728 :password2!~password@197.78.164.152 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399629819 388058 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399629877 496556 :password2!~password@197.78.180.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399629926 428375 :password2!~password@197.78.180.252 QUIT :Max SendQ exceeded < 1399629976 472167 :password2!~password@197.78.180.252 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399630552 451950 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399630898 67420 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399631043 699844 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Client Quit < 1399632069 378393 :clog!~nef@bespin.org QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1399633041 382724 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1399633141 552512 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1399634233 308109 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1399634853 378456 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399635159 409881 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's anyone other than me whose first programming language was esoteric < 1399635269 353602 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399635575 957523 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/898b104158d < 1399635578 314449 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get this. < 1399635599 464592 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This kind of compression inevitably discards information. " < 1399635616 599527 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"4, 6, 8, 12, 14, 18, 20, 24…. This is an infinite series defined as: odd primes plus 1." < 1399635641 481084 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how 4,6,8 => odd primes + 1 is a lossy compression < 1399635870 607235 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, was the first programming language you learned esoteric? < 1399635904 282973 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1399635974 235944 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: http://www.clonk.de/docs/en/sdk/script/index.html < 1399635982 968707 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- that was the first programming language I learned < 1399636039 550087 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dangermouse.net/esoteric/piet.html < 1399636042 115489 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :^- mine < 1399636061 308106 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a scripting language for a 2D-Game < 1399636084 917021 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399636087 931531 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which allowed players to create own stuff for it < 1399636089 81897 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, if I hadn't seen that language my life would be very different right now < 1399636128 854001 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :better or worse ;)? < 1399636157 425174 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, probably worse < 1399636164 97927 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't have met you < 1399636176 908403 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or like most of the people I know < 1399636204 856811 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's not quite true < 1399636219 708256 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found Piet via Irregular Webcomic < 1399636233 194188 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I hadn't read that I wouldn't have met most of the people I know < 1399636387 120788 :clog!~nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1399636444 865806 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: nice < 1399636579 436278 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF902EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1399636579 621750 :nucular!~MOO@p4FF902EC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de QUIT :Changing host < 1399636579 621822 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1399636845 126346 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :my whole internet experience sorta cascaded down from a single seed too. i guess dosgames.com! i wonder what life would've been like had i picked another one < 1399637100 204116 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what all the seeds were for me. I'm quite sure I found perlmonks early, and that stickmanstickman (now at "http://stickman.qntm.org/index.php") was the first webcomic I read, < 1399637186 569873 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :my seed was ohjelmointiputka.net, which I first used by printing some of the qbasic code snippets out so I could type those in on my computer (which lacked internet) < 1399637471 879846 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the first esoteric programming language was that I've heared of. Could have been either intercal or unlambda. < 1399637854 138907 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399637861 427923 :john_metcalf!~digital_w@87.113.153.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399637933 698380 :impomatic!~john_metc@87.113.153.170 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1399639731 444807 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1399640652 972071 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it was Befunge that was the first esolang I came across, but I have no recollection where. < 1399640679 785064 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Think of it, if that hadn't happened, you might not exist! < 1399640680 90843 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: speaking of which i can't upload from work _) are done only after beating the other guy < 1399641310 665687 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399641700 593420 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.208.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399641800 719697 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1399642073 374623 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399643174 726216 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399643478 396451 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399644721 291487 :hexagon!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :sign < 1399644881 402328 :impomatic!~digital_w@87.113.208.5 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399645215 716348 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~stud-heco@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1399645254 440525 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399645496 2167 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399645778 386313 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399646479 266291 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eovfxsgzuhajnlhu QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399646488 626080 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399646579 625145 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1399646753 789255 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399647093 730057 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399647248 803902 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399647365 651945 :ggherdov_!sid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hnzjzyypjuvzrkwo JOIN :#esoteric < 1399647378 344427 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399648017 766715 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399648055 33683 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wrhxsokojkkjwvsj JOIN :#esoteric < 1399648220 448904 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399648867 513985 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :The esolang I first came across was either Brainfuck och Argh! < 1399648968 415185 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the former, although I think the first I wrote a program in is the latter < 1399648970 774927 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :"och"? < 1399648980 856033 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or* < 1399648982 146654 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-186-068.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, I think it was probably Brainfuck or INTERCAL. < 1399649012 575199 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much language context-switching, I suppose < 1399649039 822462 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me it was definitely brainfuck first, then either befunge 98 or Lazy K < 1399649059 927185 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1399649083 536557 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc I found the wiki through befunge, so it probably was second < 1399649122 614742 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm founding the Esoteric Standard Committee (ESOSC). Who's in? :P < 1399649132 808808 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, why not < 1399649152 837052 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the spirit! < 1399649170 745763 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would it do? < 1399649177 578429 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what would that do < 1399649198 529753 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399649206 741861 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats, ESC is all over the news already < 1399649251 774538 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurovision song contest final tomorrow night! < 1399649690 901451 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Issuing standards < 1399649725 97139 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for esolang related stuff < 1399649764 109847 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, can we create a "normalized brainfuck" standard? < 1399649800 598895 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what sort of standards? < 1399649989 633698 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb, nortti: Some standardized brainfuck < 1399649990 925464 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like uhm < 1399649993 165652 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :standardizing EOF < 1399649995 516070 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that kinda thing < 1399650004 568453 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(EOF for Brainfuck) < 1399650012 158804 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like that < 1399650029 756164 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrap-around for cells, tape etc. < 1399650029 903554 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not sound like a real standards body. You need a lot more bureaucracy. Working groups and so on. < 1399650053 199796 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1399650059 53227 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you guys are working groups, right? < 1399650060 480558 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1399650065 257927 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, I'd say normalized brainfuck for ease of interpretation < 1399650070 214931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie, no comments/whitespace < 1399650075 313088 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :8bit cells, wrap-around, eof-is-0? < 1399650076 645576 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1399650091 91507 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean like uhm. < 1399650092 326836 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we can make a number of brainfuck standards! < 1399650127 635219 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ESOSC 2014-2 requires for a normalized bf programm to only contain chars [.,+-><]? < 1399650140 322095 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything else isn't ESOSC conform < 1399650144 828873 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1399650167 547507 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't conform to ESOSC 2014-2 "Normalized brainfuck (nbf)" < 1399650180 981183 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1399650188 975756 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps we also need to define the semantics of the language < 1399650194 947232 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a draft :D < 1399650242 160610 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what happens to newlines in envs where newline is not 0x10 < 1399650243 432892 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :all that's left to do is finding someone who can draw a fancy logo < 1399650262 363297 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we're good < 1399650375 459489 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1399650475 585658 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: you can count me in < 1399650489 423643 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: that's only first normal form of bf < 1399650547 293802 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: second normal form bf programs further don't have the sequence ][ nor >< nor +- nor -+ < 1399650565 30863 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :why no ][ ? < 1399650574 846907 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1399650582 940211 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: the second loop never runs. it's used as a form of comment. < 1399650590 772026 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking "that is not a null" < 1399650612 529449 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realized the second loops never runs since first one ends with a 0 < 1399650624 997595 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be third? < 1399650635 492269 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :second should be like no unmatched brackets and stuff? < 1399650651 33118 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? you need no unmatched brackets in any valid bf program < 1399650652 610648 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, that can be done with a simple CFG < 1399650713 58446 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a simple sentence < 1399650720 273072 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1399650831 224775 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1399650855 705400 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :S -> AS|λ < 1399650867 521429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :A -> +|-|<|>|,|.|[S] < 1399650913 407939 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks about right. < 1399651650 416958 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :What kind of "states" do we need? < 1399651653 447507 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Draft, Approved? < 1399651655 414398 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399651661 998207 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a "Revoked"? < 1399651689 563531 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Draft, Approved, Forgotten? < 1399651889 630537 :password2!~password@197.78.180.252 QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1399651951 752678 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgotten? < 1399651956 335228 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean < 1399651962 89624 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :obsolete? < 1399652017 583270 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yeah. my brains do not work today < 1399652063 149675 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1399652098 696505 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the BNF of standard's identification string/number :) < 1399652142 763686 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like "forgotten" < 1399652222 723119 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :for drafts that are abandoned since everyone losy focus? < 1399652246 218861 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lost < 1399652311 100017 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the status of most standards once they've gone through the test of time < 1399652452 634277 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I do like the notion of tracking it formally. :) < 1399652479 335107 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :what criteria would be used to determine if a standard is forgotten? < 1399652494 992482 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399652562 57601 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's forgotten when nobody remembers it. < 1399652582 481727 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then no-one would remember to change its status < 1399652621 716538 :password2!~password@197.78.148.77 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399652668 540999 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need some outside historian assign the status for you < 1399652724 85306 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, interesting idea < 1399653075 241586 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399653082 988301 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399653113 664301 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399653461 61266 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399653582 320032 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :the statuses shall be: 1. draft, 2. still draft but already obsolate, 3. accepted but was already obsolate when it was accepted, 4. we claim it's draft and will finish it some day but actually it's vaporware and will be forgotten eventually < 1399653600 360379 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, we might need 5. revoked too < 1399653917 250110 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399654093 946057 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399654144 551518 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D1-R1.pdf <- gotta set some ground rules < 1399654234 741165 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1399654463 928990 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, for example ESOSC-2014-D1 -> ESOSC-2014-D1-R2 -> ESOSC-2014-A1 -> ESOSC-2014-O1 ? < 1399654587 274391 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-D1-R1 < 1399654673 570774 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve! < 1399654701 975171 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve, too < 1399655004 554763 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: yeah < 1399655713 637346 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not R2D2 < 1399655728 289590 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399655818 675878 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta document when a standard gets obsolete and stuff < 1399655822 881538 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can approve it ;) < 1399655992 90579 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399656126 938502 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399656150 90789 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399656254 115369 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399656434 815688 :Bike!~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399656797 445495 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399656956 874783 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1399656958 575908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08todcoin 092d-revcoin 02quatcoin 06constanticoin 13parcoin 04saaticoin 07ferrocoin 08oddbalcoin 09suxecoin 02nybracoin 06lyapascoin 13luigecoin 04embaschlacoin 07rocurdcoin 08baycoin 09forcoin 02catamecoin 06divilliicoin 13rubecoin 04objectcoin < 1399656978 445292 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins --swedish < 1399656979 336492 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04styrercoin < 1399657004 642541 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the sound of objectcoin < 1399657015 875087 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like rubecoin < 1399657043 974607 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof of work is a overcomplicated solution to a simple problem? < 1399657122 350559 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEANWHILE IN /R/BITCOIN: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/25205w/lets_hire_an_expendables_like_group_to_free_the/ < 1399657609 926797 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1399657642 382815 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all reddit bitcoiners that lost in touch with reality? < 1399657654 113978 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, Taneb: http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D1-R2.pdf < 1399657732 368612 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"anylonger" should be two words < 1399657748 310931 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And we specify the format but not its meaning < 1399657804 158193 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. yeah < 1399657818 502587 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, well, fair play to them it's downvoted into the negatives and all the replies are critical < 1399657825 781030 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just too hilarious to pass up on < 1399657840 263444 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :year of issue and an ever increasing number < 1399657866 517326 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: also, it could be good to note that only apprived versions are ever obsoleted < 1399657903 83953 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*approved < 1399657911 968508 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, why? < 1399657921 274512 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I put this... < 1399657940 456115 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :consists of a number that is successively increased with every new standard? < 1399657975 316569 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: to prevent confusion when there are non-obsolete versions that contain the same info as obsolete ones? admitedly, the labelling of them as drafts should tick them off < 1399657992 904160 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399657999 774547 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drafts can be "Rejected" I guess? < 1399658009 176375 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at "On Hold" < 1399658011 510805 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... meh < 1399658043 435710 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, more representative sample: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/251314/its_the_perfect_time_to_buy_bitcoins/ < 1399658049 40877 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, probably best to leave that corner-case out and do as we see best once the situation actually happens < 1399658165 960932 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. And I wrote "avouded" < 1399658173 276638 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Further the EUIN < 1399658175 303298 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :encodes the year of issue and a number that is successively increased with every new standard to ensure uniqueness. " < 1399658187 560103 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does that sound good? < 1399658218 35449 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1399658297 852427 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would happen if something has a revision in December then another in January? < 1399658312 741027 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "first issue"? < 1399658321 709755 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :year of first issue < 1399658333 681260 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :That'd make the most sense I think < 1399658377 244480 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the year the work on the draft began < 1399658402 819117 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same EUIN (except for changed status and no revision in end) is kept when it is aproved < 1399658483 968477 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say so < 1399658930 990536 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399658936 383216 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399659245 943311 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, Taneb: http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D1-R3.pdf < 1399659285 479149 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try again < 1399659359 496435 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: 404 < 1399659386 439323 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hu < 1399659388 708240 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399659395 447220 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now? < 1399659441 158581 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works < 1399659489 386843 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say "be approved" rather than "get approved" < 1399659504 553786 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or possibly "be marked as approved" < 1399659542 414509 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :k. < 1399659799 632023 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ESOSC can correct grammar/typos without a new revision :) < 1399659815 171424 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1399659818 148670 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should mention that < 1399659832 132541 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> new revision < 1399659832 766846 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that a revision is a draft < 1399659842 105827 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1399659858 861994 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you revise a standard the revision of that standard is in state "draft" < 1399659928 621436 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :"standardization of esoteric programming languages " <- is that a joke? < 1399659935 398812 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope this standard will be integrated into the esolang standardisation system < 1399660006 634489 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedSquirrel: Nah. It's serious business < 1399660023 694544 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :serious business (tm) < 1399660037 707039 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :make all esolangs look like brainfuck < 1399660043 240348 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :done. < 1399660046 555328 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedSquirrel, ;alfiaewgoiaegwoierarrrgh < 1399660061 431661 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point Phantom__Hoover < 1399660152 227801 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399660160 782559 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: you know there's a tvtropes page for that right < 1399660176 460290 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd assume so < 1399660210 726203 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedSquirrel: everything we do here is dead serious < 1399660219 621648 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A new revision of an approved standard is put into the draft state and requires the usual approval process taking place. Revisions of standards in draft state < 1399660222 626468 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are not affected by this. The ESOSC is allowed to correct gramma, orthographical or similar mistakes without requiring a new revision. " < 1399660234 228547 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no TOPIC #esoteric :The dead serious channel | PSA: fizzie is running the wiki now, contact him for any problems | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2023808/wisdom.pdf http://codu.org/logs/_esoteric/ http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/ < 1399660235 229548 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grammar < 1399660268 747396 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*granma < 1399660277 496480 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gamma < 1399660290 27266 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :*handlebar < 1399660337 633108 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: your voice recognition needs work < 1399660347 159356 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote navajo < 1399660347 793757 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :724) hang on I have bright idea navajo to f me 1 in 3 people < 1399660360 349370 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the builtin orthographical mistakes is standardized copyprotection < 1399660442 239912 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-D1-R4.pdf < 1399660505 326524 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1399660598 403794 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve < 1399660655 589929 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also approve. < 1399660793 15264 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait... < 1399660798 225094 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does one become a member :D? < 1399660810 298913 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1399660819 406210 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :requires approval of three members to become a member < 1399660826 412275 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a good thing? < 1399660829 704349 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1399660832 719002 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1399660835 514800 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399660840 120271 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care :) < 1399660879 756158 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bad thing < 1399660883 48508 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what the hell is going on and whether or not i am a member, but i approve < 1399660890 327667 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_, two thirds majority? < 1399660902 274362 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :approval by ehird is absolutely satisfying < 1399660904 575780 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: yeah. why not. < 1399660952 171084 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti: Do you approve two thirds majoirity? < 1399660957 226306 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I don't have to make a R5 :D < 1399661010 286896 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... what the hell is esosc and where can i sign in? < 1399661044 386068 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? esosc < 1399661050 480291 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`? esosc < 1399661051 187650 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esosc? ¯\(°​_o)/¯ < 1399661081 559388 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: 2/3 majority on what? < 1399661150 325629 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: I approve < 1399661152 219199 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :2/3 majority to become a member of the esosc < 1399661158 895190 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a new member < 1399661167 422034 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, works for me < 1399661171 8587 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1399661175 466675 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our first approved standard < 1399661230 510515 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay! < 1399661292 455883 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`learn esosc is esoteric song contest < 1399661293 956921 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew that. < 1399661301 486173 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :now we can work on that nbf < 1399661372 359369 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :may i ask how it came the world needs an "Esoteric Standard Committee"? somebody requested it? < 1399661375 799031 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's/$/ (also Esoteric Standard Committee)/' wisdom/esosc < 1399661377 285908 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1399661384 931257 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedSquirrel: 18:25 < mroman_> I'm founding the Esoteric Standard Committee (ESOSC). Who's in? :P < 1399661394 186966 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1399661579 444602 :impomatic!~digital_w@46.208.16.43 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399661654 658080 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, nbf deals both with how the bf source file is stored and implementation details like EOF handling? < 1399661716 21990 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :nortti, we could split the two specifications < 1399661726 594856 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"brainfuck conventions" < 1399661730 608778 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I agree that would be better < 1399661731 454107 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "Normalized brainfuck" < 1399661762 833324 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :because one is directed at source code, other at implementation < 1399661793 236292 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: what does that committee actually do? < 1399661803 135219 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname, we make standards < 1399661866 888853 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there needs to be a draft for adding lambda to brainfuck < 1399661893 68504 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and oop < 1399661928 816709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there will be an entirely different brainfuck standardisation sponsored by microsoft. < 1399661931 592039 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arithmetical type system < 1399661947 109253 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: is it called windows? < 1399661999 320215 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1399662077 657684 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: We make standards, yeah. < 1399662158 272198 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am quite unsure if i want to join < 1399662172 528646 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on one hand it sounds totally awesome < 1399662181 397030 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand it sounds like it could be actual work < 1399662251 224215 :archaic!Burton@gateway/shell/bouncerstation/x-hjgmkopygwwxcqum JOIN :#esoteric < 1399662259 628598 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's some work involved, yes. < 1399662408 363200 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399662417 548111 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :while uncountable amounts of new esolangs are invented everyday, the channel had to change its focus on inventing some standards ..it's not that anybody wants it.. they're just necessary < 1399662447 222554 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1399662490 550824 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there's now a standards committee < 1399662554 259027 :password2!~password@197.78.148.77 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399662572 940323 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should found another one that defines standards that are always slightly incompatible with ESOSC standards < 1399662581 522522 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you satan? < 1399662593 469630 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1399662594 458376 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many CHF does it cost to buy the official copy of a ESOSC standard < 1399662597 92152 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it following on from the work of eso-std? < 1399662610 505480 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember that project collapsed when we couldn't agree on a format that the standards should be in < 1399662619 24605 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if anyone but me cared about the actual standardisation part < 1399662620 395980 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric sexually transmitted disease? < 1399662630 762891 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric standardisation, I guess < 1399662634 691151 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :c.c < 1399662638 970506 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like superaids? < 1399662652 357260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :retroviruses are pretty esoteric < 1399662663 523073 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :D < 1399662686 192052 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399662714 983956 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399662757 698742 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've called it just ESO < 1399662770 722213 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be more puny in respect to ISO < 1399662794 552007 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the first thing would be a definition of an OSE reference modell < 1399662805 686113 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1399662840 239960 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399662857 356291 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399663174 524108 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399663199 709155 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399663397 965224 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-A1.pdf <- and there it is. < 1399663451 282181 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "hyphen" production isn't defined < 1399663460 243894 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Y10K bug < 1399663481 564932 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1399663482 468565 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and numbers allow arbitrarily many leading zeros, not sure if that's intended < 1399663486 54374 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should've been < 1399663591 229260 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1399663635 565623 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y10K bug :D < 1399663643 498541 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... < 1399663653 969502 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: I second that < 1399663654 176745 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y2^64 bug? < 1399663663 595051 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're representing years in base 10? boring < 1399663858 600261 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where do I voice the opinion that all specifications should be available in html format online, in addition to pdf? < 1399663908 163750 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, probably < 1399664065 962755 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :form a working group < 1399664068 509331 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :download and fill out the esosc-request forms < 1399664085 883550 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :then fax them to mroman_ < 1399664098 132328 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a plan < 1399664119 595275 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to submit a change request through your national standards body < 1399664154 407643 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if SIS recognises ESOSC as a standards body < 1399664178 540719 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :sis? < 1399664186 718471 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/dr_404.htm < 1399664207 551422 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's what our national standards body is called < 1399664218 48116 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't remember what it expands to < 1399664231 375513 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know now.. i know where all this points at! learn the rules like a pro, to break them like an artist -picasso < 1399664232 110259 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :html. < 1399664233 526124 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1399664246 52691 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SIS Swedish Standards Institute" < 1399664264 339723 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you a swede? < 1399664269 794366 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the fun in eden when there is no forbidden fruits? < 1399664270 225484 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1399664292 710158 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel has a surprisingly large number of Scandinavians < 1399664308 689987 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :even larger number of nordics < 1399664317 713399 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently "SIS" officially stands for "Swedish Standards Institute" nowadays < 1399664333 584499 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's interesting < 1399664335 425409 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "UTC" officially stands for "Coordinated Universal Time"? < 1399664341 323262 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's a bit like how UTC expands incorrectly in both french and english < 1399664342 774769 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1399664354 159593 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely < 1399664430 162651 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have latex2html I think on my windows < 1399664448 442580 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1399664526 314006 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/huonw/brainfuck_macro Did you guys see this? < 1399664576 706597 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat < 1399664616 713653 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://winterdom.com/2002/03/regardingecma234 < 1399664656 662503 :Rgasuit!~Rgasuit@5.135.109.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399664723 996839 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you know OWL? < 1399664732 368341 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Web Ontology Language < 1399664946 216269 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/upcoming.txt < 1399664985 322485 :Rgasuit!~Rgasuit@5.135.109.181 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1399665250 575568 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1399665396 757971 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399665838 302218 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1399665845 62974 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :this tool can't convert \begin{grammar} < 1399666114 51601 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm the IE tab bugs haven't been _entirely_ eradicated, i see; i got a single tab that was colored again < 1399666126 819522 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1399666158 974192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: send it to grammar school < 1399666171 294380 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: http://eso.mroman.ch/ESOSC/ESOSC-2014-A1.html < 1399666192 346052 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1399666213 715828 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the OT1bchbn thingy there < 1399666218 408247 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks wrong :D < 1399666243 452810 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for what reason do you use IE master oerjan? < 1399666256 596924 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :just to check it out? < 1399666331 432616 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.. you love writing bug-reports @ MS .. right? < 1399666334 888178 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody should do Coccinelle for Rust < 1399666337 667349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be awesome < 1399666417 61808 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :RedSquirrel: laziness and habit < 1399666422 480317 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :coccinelle? sounds dirty < 1399666459 458723 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the one time i tried to install chrome one of my favorite websites stopped working properly. < 1399666478 66690 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're still missing a fancy logo though < 1399666509 52365 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't bother with bug reports. < 1399666521 949540 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1399666528 881570 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. < 1399666579 482328 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, there needs to be someone who uses IE just to keep you guessing. < 1399666594 785836 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are not the conventional nerd < 1399666595 931191 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hear IE is pretty good these days < 1399666603 980713 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that < 1399666625 559362 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1399666644 120706 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :UTC is probably by analogy to UT0 etc. < 1399666668 473875 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1399666674 532492 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 2/3 is missing in the html output < 1399666677 374717 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1399666686 432604 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was writing notes on something < 1399666695 959701 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've just written "HMM." < 1399666705 44009 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also drew a ship, which I scribbled out < 1399666710 364848 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not very good at this < 1399666711 130716 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it about hidden markov models? < 1399666716 652723 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really < 1399666720 14571 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although sort of < 1399666729 553936 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not really sort of < 1399666764 551002 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could mean you want to travel < 1399666777 610906 :RedSquirrel!4d0b5b3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.91.61 PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps. < 1399666817 147483 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her Majesty's Moonship < 1399666958 740683 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan > 1399666959 69900 NAMES :#esoteric < 1399666973 114435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric +b :*!*4d0b5b3d@*.77.11.91.61 > 1399666973 125800 NAMES :#esoteric < 1399666973 262962 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no KICK #esoteric RedSquirrel :Bye hagb4rd < 1399667094 839665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan > 1399667094 852302 NAMES :#esoteric < 1399667492 692599 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why didn't somebody create a Painfuck < 1399667495 601900 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Portable Brainfuck) < 1399667509 536972 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that introduces new symbols for EOF and Newline handling < 1399667533 810188 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless there already is such a thing < 1399667557 652600 :mroman_!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as how many derivatives of bf exist certainly there should be one around them adressing those issues < 1399667585 428503 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1399667653 855763 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman_: in most of my esolangs nowadays, I have EOF = 0, NUL = 1, SOH = 2, etc. < 1399667690 787925 :nooodl!~nooodl@51.152-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1399667736 446124 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think lazy-k's eof=256 was pretty good < 1399667742 173465 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many brainfuck derivatives but are there any brainfuck integrals < 1399667775 814420 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would one construct a brainfuck integral? < 1399667852 8862 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :not my problem < 1399667891 830923 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't someone invent a brainfuck derivative that replaces the tape's cells with a real line? < 1399667920 649136 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine the loop condition would involve integrals in that case, maybe that counts < 1399667957 432180 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: what do you think of memoization of continuous functions < 1399667962 622304 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust now supports inline brainfuck: https://github.com/huonw/brainfuck_macro < 1399667973 152157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: don't know, what do you think of it < 1399667985 140131 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds p. interesting imo < 1399668009 770597 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in particular the thing where you share most of the work between similar inputs to produce similar outputs < 1399668012 439965 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about it < 1399668013 315417 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1399668182 531934 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also making it happen automatically with laziness when you use a particular sort of continuity?? < 1399668206 924108 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. you have a bit stream and a prefix of it gets shared < 1399668222 967279 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that doesn't quite make sense < 1399668234 725504 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1399668413 351552 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399668504 366298 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://imgur.com/a/iDJMg < 1399668714 726550 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, community was cancelled < 1399668717 549453 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399668728 112108 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399668764 82463 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1399668778 934846 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the saying goes, "they had a good run" < 1399668793 128207 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of stopped watching / caring during this season < 1399668835 809018 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i haven't watched anything past season 3 < 1399668852 830438 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still feel sad in an abstract sense though! < 1399668855 764793 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1399669040 744463 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i probably shouldn't binge on tv shows that are still running, i just lose interest between seasons) < 1399669139 386990 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been re-watching Peep Show with douglass_ < 1399669169 934641 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the top few funniest shows I've ever seen < 1399669175 668654 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got about 5 minutes into the first episode of peep show and it was just too painful < 1399669216 572901 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1399669221 147213 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I could see that < 1399669349 242397 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :my family got me hooked on endeavour during the holidays but it's now between series as well < 1399669365 119661 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can only hope i still give a shit next easter < 1399669570 670741 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's endeavour < 1399669643 165340 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, prequel to Inspector Morse iirc < 1399669666 848717 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1399670063 347100 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what possessed me to listen to a song titled "Vienna Arcweld Fucked Gamelan Rigid Tracking" < 1399670083 564003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :"song" is perhaps an overstatement, it consists mostly of ominous ambient squeaking machinery noises < 1399670120 442290 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't go wrong with gamelan < 1399670329 148435 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399670366 726529 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1VcuffZocA&index=6&list=PL4CD9537492AEA538 < 1399670754 167272 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@94-224-17-246.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1399671200 305804 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4575eb51.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1399671518 628864 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1399671878 167882 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungots fall on fungot falls < 1399671878 418501 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: it should use? which compiler, msvc? i'm inside your mom! < 1399671886 255715 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1399671906 498602 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc, ooh, burn < 1399671913 376144 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1399671939 874906 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's really between the two of them < 1399671968 560304 :nucular!~MOO@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Excess Food < 1399672052 664900 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1399672069 737825 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote kmc: it should use? which compiler, msvc? i'm inside your mom! < 1399672069 978600 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: now to sleep. first lecture day of 2006 tomorrow, wouldn't want to use some package or other < 1399672071 126422 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :1193) kmc: it should use? which compiler, msvc? i'm inside your mom! < 1399672238 548430 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot has time travel all figured out. < 1399672238 713890 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i don't know if that is true. < 1399672278 339828 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot seems unusually lucid today < 1399672278 487158 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom__Hoover: my irix box could probably use one. < 1399672280 131663 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so you have to forget that you know time travel to use it? fascinating! < 1399672280 302260 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have just been extended to fnord words... interesting < 1399672326 236019 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: no, you've always done that. maybe you are actually past fungot. < 1399672326 523766 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i think this is the guy working on def-bf, who is root fnord" in the various schemes/ i < 1399672362 975733 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I don't think oerjan is working on that, no < 1399672363 311659 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: freedom is slavery ignorance is strenght bush is president. so counting ballots is really more difficult than merge sort or insertion sort.... of evil! < 1399672377 893345 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :politics, eh < 1399672381 922203 :fowl!~fowl@unaffiliated/fowlmouth PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1399672417 511975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.51.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399672454 148710 :zzo38!~zzo38@24.207.51.179 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have said before, there is no infinite loop of write operation in SQL, only of read operation (such as a SELECT statement); however, that is probably sufficient for most things anyways. < 1399672567 32064 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk: there seems to be an SO lens-related question which no one can answer http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23567695/implementing-polymorphic-deep-function-for-traversals-and-folds < 1399672585 282591 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's over my lens head, at least) < 1399672844 959471 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399672850 688148 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1399673155 310197 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1399673285 377083 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399673306 1919 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the usual solution to that sort of thing is to not take a rank-2 Traversal argument and return a Traversal result but take some sort of Over p f s t a b sort of argument and return a similar result < 1399673331 477356 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399673331 624468 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1399673377 344819 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399673377 533807 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your caller needs to pick the types < 1399673379 508681 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1399673520 586222 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1399673609 390140 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399673645 399855 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1399674124 684636 :augur!~augur@129-2-129-35.wireless.umd.edu QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399674408 222344 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1399674552 922761 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: Rust's RefCell is kind of an interesting beast < 1399674557 525664 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if it's mis-named or not < 1399674567 141030 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not necessarily heap allocated < 1399674672 120905 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :its purpose is basically that you can do &RefCell -> &mut T < 1399674696 276848 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this moves the enforcement of mutable pointer aliasing rules to runtime < 1399674731 761364 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a RefCell is a T (annotated so that LLVM won't assume it's immutable) alongside a word for this dynamic borrow flag < 1399675259 327385 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found some ways to break said aliasing rules in servo < 1399675466 369790 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1399675490 554257 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should really learn about rust and multable pointer aliasing rules sometime < 1399675617 32935 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION finds it mildly distressing that trying to envision lenses in Smalltalk is making him envision deliberately losing the property that the optics themselves are definable separately from the structures they traverse, solely because that fits better syntactically
< 1399675623 857364 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1399675628 20749 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aLens,bLens,cLens) of: someStructure put: blah < 1399675630 381773 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of ugly < 1399675927 659202 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: &mut references can't alias with any other reference < 1399675929 387907 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the main thing < 1399675933 134150 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1399676035 417405 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1399676113 393970 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is enforced statically, but you can break the rules in unsafe code and then enforce it dynamically, which is what std::cell implements < 1399676283 343678 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399676378 187383 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pharo seems headed in a more OO direction < 1399676463 415108 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.slideshare.net/pharoproject/advanced-reflection-in-pharo < 1399676483 691441 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wrhxsokojkkjwvsj QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1399676799 143760 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :my code mostly breaks the aliasing rules and then doesn't enforce them, and then writes are lost sometimes < 1399676824 610500 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-203-32.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if a less safe language would end up doing the right thing more often < 1399676833 792460 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1399676833 940208 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1399677282 464349 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you break the rules? < 1399677476 68382 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :why you want rail for kalashnikov < 1399677959 931471 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: i see bizarre stuff http://stackoverflow.com/a/23575190/1088108 (also, pretty quick service) < 1399678502 726490 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-151-90.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1399679341 101895 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-092-072-186-068.pools.arcor-ip.net QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1399679966 772119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving