< 1401321733 267248 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcpherrin: first we should have let string = objc![[NSString alloc] initWithCString: "Hello, world!"]; < 1401321742 835587 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective Rust < 1401321743 583540 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw someone is working on Rust for iOS... < 1401321761 305957 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: go convince zwarich to do that. never let him escape his apple past < 1401321767 629062 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1401321837 745161 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be (slightly) useful for Servo < 1401321843 281855 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I really like writing macros < 1401321852 488158 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder why i do find the most people that talk about rust outside the rust channel here of all the channels < 1401321854 311504 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I know nothing about ObjC or OS X and probably can't be bothered to learn it < 1401321866 384675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: because I talk a lot here and I'm a professional rust programmer < 1401321882 528242 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I was a professional rust programmer < 1401321883 619069 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda makes sense < 1401321888 451702 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION angry at c++03 < 1401321897 776693 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcpherrin: I also wish you were a professional rust programmer < 1401321900 636188 :BeingToDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401321905 998071 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: :D < 1401321909 824407 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's documentation going? < 1401321909 999646 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any esoteric languages with substructural type systems? < 1401321941 537214 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1401321948 830860 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been assuming mcpherrin was a rustc dev, lol < 1401321959 708323 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: only in an open-source/community sense < 1401321967 970918 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well then < 1401321970 751610 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :get mozilla to pay you < 1401321971 357488 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I can't build rustc due to bullshit < 1401321998 656063 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't hacked on rust itself, just written code in it < 1401321999 858504 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also: what the hell is pefunge? why is it listed at that codegolf site but not in our wiki? < 1401322445 937200 :nooodl!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: the japanese esolang/golf community is a bit obscure like that! < 1401322510 588470 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are also a few other Japanese esolang stuff that weren't on esolang wiki, although I have added some of them. < 1401322547 56744 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there are japanese esolang sites? < 1401322568 280272 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally some useful work for all those weaboos < 1401322609 160196 :nooodl!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be mostly centered around a bunch of hatena blogs but i dunno < 1401322742 174831 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Excess Flood < 1401322819 310067 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :myname: it's like a parallel world that we barely know about. < 1401322890 490054 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat JOIN :#esoteric < 1401323866 196510 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1401323867 624242 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​07qwerbcoin 08vilitafnrcoin 09tingcoin 02byocoin 06minarylambdcoin 13aanuecoin 04suprefcoin 07whospirequatinuspitmarrootypervellowfoocoin 08fiablecoin 09estatcoin 02gokacoin 06auercoin 13colmogenontagcoin 04homedumquecoin 07mustcoin 08wheeccoin 09bibelatincoin 02chocoin 06cemcoin 13lengomagecoin < 1401324019 607318 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401325878 286879 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything interesting about Objective-C other than a slight Smalltalk heritage that drops the fantasic IDE? < 1401325977 61373 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debating whether to call my gf to ask where the laminator is? < 1401325977 174162 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pros: I bet she knows exactly where it is. < 1401325977 228466 :impomatic!~digital_w@43.16.208.46.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cons: She gets annoyed at the slightest thing. Calling at 2:12am might not be the best idea. < 1401326136 966937 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com < 1401326192 485690 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401326398 378368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401326399 748766 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every program is an interpreter < 1401326402 947529 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :every vegetable is a word < 1401326873 740347 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :every sperm is sacred < 1401327110 519901 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1401327294 528938 :{hk3380}!~test@90.214.135.230 QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401327360 152975 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :god himmelsprett < 1401327394 490112 :BeingToDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401327578 102044 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :bremsstrahlung < 1401327596 99069 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :festbrems < 1401327994 241018 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :party pooper? < 1401328016 92763 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it appears. < 1401328048 873751 :zeusammon!~zeusammon@c-24-98-36-153.hsd1.ga.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401328175 659059 :zeusammon!~zeusammon@c-24-98-36-153.hsd1.ga.comcast.net PART :#esoteric < 1401328731 998413 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: do you agree with the ; making a significant semantic difference thing? < 1401328748 387645 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1401328769 890704 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :1;2 is 2, 1;2; is (), iiuc < 1401328775 481517 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :return -ESGEO; < 1401328791 962795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are talking about rust? < 1401328795 208472 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1401328800 850876 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i am fine with that < 1401328816 890320 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as the compiler gives a useful error message when you have a spurious semicolon at the end of a function < 1401328827 214976 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bug I opened; I don't remember if it's been fixed < 1401328925 42052 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust doesn't try to be innovative, does it? Where does it get its inherited mutability concept from? Doesn't seem Haskelly, unless you consider using State + lenses to be similar < 1401328948 540786 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are some innovative things < 1401329038 669125 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly lifetime checking, and statically enforced move semantics < 1401329048 222489 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the first "mainstream" language with substructural types, isn't it? < 1401329058 805152 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :where I have carefully defined "mainstream" to just barely include Rust < 1401329077 636098 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://doc.rust-lang.org/rust.html#influences < 1401329100 687294 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Rust is not a particularly original language. It may however appear unusual by contemporary standards, as its design elements are drawn from a number of "historical" languages that have, with a few exceptions, fallen out of favour.' < 1401329125 182840 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The lexical identifier rule of Python." < 1401329132 769255 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems... a bit like faint praise < 1401329136 758675 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1401329141 5674 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what that means < 1401329154 370471 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing which characters are allowed in names < 1401329155 937975 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't disapprove of faintly praising python :) < 1401329156 736328 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401329532 598547 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk should use lifetime semantics for ^ < 1401329617 318278 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: so you are saying Rust is already more mainstream than Clean ever was? < 1401329649 280369 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1401329665 657053 :nooodl_!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401329673 156768 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401329770 194336 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: or maybe it means 'self' instead of 'this' < 1401329856 730003 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alexweymouth.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/socialist-hierarchy.png < 1401329893 672618 :nooodl!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401329893 964073 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to be the money bag < 1401330029 300783 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :antinatalist! < 1401330178 153388 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: > Copyright < 1401330247 312697 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :socialism is hardly anti-copyright < 1401330290 984795 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :``coins < 1401330291 442394 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `coins: not found < 1401330294 25325 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1401330361 84020 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1401330362 409161 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​09lobolgaarvcoin 02refixacoin 06selfrovcoin 13remiecoin 04embergeompsringariologcoin 07totteravecoin 08lowfourcoin 09bamcoin 02fobcoin 06booblcoin 13embcoin 04brycoin 07jamecoin 08neumenernanchcoin 09stilecoin 02marchiecoin 06beauxcoin 13erarcoin 04gammaerolamcoin 07tamcoin < 1401330366 382106 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MANIACS < 1401330367 972633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly kmc < 1401330835 533480 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella QUIT :Quit: It is tiem! < 1401331567 5081 :nooodl_!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Quit: Ik ga weg < 1401331634 425529 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401331685 529653 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any MML->MOD compilers that you know of? < 1401331707 933256 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i i i i i i i i i i i i i i < 1401331728 738599 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401331911 725618 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :e i e i o < 1401332166 505933 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the rules for ordering MIDI messages? < 1401332232 254260 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i before e except after c < 1401332246 987119 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :or when it sounds like a < 1401332251 31642 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[071+14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39718&oldid=39712 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+6) 10Ye olde conformity < 1401332280 520384 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :> ord '+' < 1401332282 258053 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 43 < 1401332575 519049 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like this C macro? #define objdup(x) memcpy(malloc(sizeof(x)),&(x),sizeof(x)) < 1401332612 548157 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1401332648 739134 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It Is A Bad macro < 1401332660 419462 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macro < 1401332664 423899 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta capitzlie eevyerhint < 1401332677 697794 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you want to capitalize it? < 1401332684 425536 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: malloc could fail < 1401332698 539026 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :god told me my warranty was out < 1401332721 588368 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, malloc could fail < 1401332729 763190 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-246-11.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401332731 751661 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh malloc doesn't fail ;P < 1401332764 695747 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it does you'll write to 0 which is fine since you'll fault immediately < 1401332780 53790 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it a macro anyway < 1401332781 247354 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-246-11.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1401332816 830621 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: So that "sizeof" can be used? < 1401332850 59229 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought you could use sizeof on values in this glorious future < 1401332852 755729 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: can't write that as a function in C since you don't have generics otherwise < 1401332860 417368 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, what is the type of X? < 1401332882 155039 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also thought memcpy and malloc just did void* shit < 1401332912 854157 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :passing a void* to the function doesn't work since you then can't use sizeof < 1401333077 912431 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d\n"; sizeof (void)); < 1401333081 618806 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1401333085 836072 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :shocking < 1401333120 420549 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wat < 1401333134 530207 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%d\n", (int) sizeof (void)); < 1401333136 361195 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1401333184 199948 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is a GNU extension that sizeof(void) is allowed < 1401333203 799617 :pikhq!~pikhq@2602:100:18b2:fbfb:a60:6eff:fece:493 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a consequence of allowing arithmetic on void*. < 1401333218 442111 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have unfortunately discovered i am pissy about a programming thing: namely, the billionth fucking time somebody walks into irc and complains about an "inaccurate" division < 1401333602 835584 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%f\n", 1.0/3.0); < 1401333604 56166 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.333333 < 1401333669 879779 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%f\n", 1.0/3.0*3.0); < 1401333671 238861 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.000000 < 1401333823 208370 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%f\n", (float)(1.0/3.0)); // i don't know c lel < 1401333824 549961 :password2!~password@197.78.145.124 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401333824 673505 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.333333 < 1401333830 242837 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0/3.0*3.0); < 1401333831 609855 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.00000000 < 1401333841 382713 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0/3.0); < 1401333842 674763 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.33333333 < 1401333849 806596 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: inaccurate as in "I don't understand IEEE754"? < 1401333856 671126 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1401333858 695939 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :every time < 1401333875 936695 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other option is inaccurate as in "wtf why doesn't this cpu do IEEE754 correctly" < 1401333884 257501 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0/3.0+1.0/3.0+1.0/3.0); < 1401333885 277286 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, understanding floats is a tall order, but you could at least have the humility not to assume it's a bug < 1401333885 572264 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.00000000 < 1401333915 978343 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0f/3.0f+1.0f/3.0f+1.0f/3.0f); < 1401333917 245783 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.00000000 < 1401333993 225895 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Generally assuming the cpu is doing IEEE754 correctly is right, even if it seems otherwise at first glace < 1401334013 968153 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1401334094 139283 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.16f\n", 1.0/3.0); < 1401334095 539966 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.3333333333333333 < 1401334109 737198 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.16f\n", 1.0/5.0); < 1401334111 21581 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.2000000000000000 < 1401334124 351720 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.16f\n", 1.0/10.0); < 1401334125 631870 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1000000000000000 < 1401334126 267996 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem in this case was 1/3 printing as .33333334 < 1401334159 974183 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.16f\n", 1.0f/3); < 1401334161 334990 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.3333333432674408 < 1401334168 956132 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, Dude < 1401334176 951406 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: Like that? < 1401334184 330558 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Singles, but yeah. < 1401334244 410574 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is single precision) < 1401334257 763599 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. i can't tell. < 1401334264 255599 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Sort of) < 1401334270 627271 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0f/3); < 1401334271 960204 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.33333334 < 1401334309 732165 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to write code on a hardware platform with broken floats for a few months < 1401334309 940035 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's single prescision converted to double at printf (which shouldn't change the number) < 1401334312 970664 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :was not fun :p < 1401334317 689413 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem PRIVMSG #esoteric :mcpherrin: Ouch < 1401334319 140286 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I gave up and used soft floats) < 1401334329 97285 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :what platform? a dsp or something? < 1401334333 958374 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :maverick crunch < 1401334351 399229 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaverickCrunch < 1401334357 991439 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"intended for digital audio", i was close < 1401334365 977916 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :plagued with hardware bugs lol < 1401334381 708744 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1401334417 265808 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"imprecise or garbage results or clobber registers or memory" < 1401334420 279170 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cirrus Logic's Crunch tools, a repackaging of GNU tools modified by Nucleusys of Bulgaria (or was it they who did the work later submitted by RedHat?)" < 1401334425 934813 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :v. encyclopedic < 1401336538 402113 :password2!~password@197.78.145.124 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401337172 845729 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know i won't be leavin' here w/ you < 1401337489 852668 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tempo slows, transition to second half of song) < 1401337527 262155 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :drink to the devil and death to the doctors < 1401337567 660520 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this record is skipping. < 1401337669 236280 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :monotone: we, alone on earth, have the power to free ourselves from the tyranny of the selfish replicators < 1401337787 436213 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who swapped the music for audiobooks?! < 1401337789 515858 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M A MAN OF WEALTH AND TASTE, HOPE YOU GUESSED MY NAAAAAME < 1401337950 421626 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shuts off the stereo < 1401337976 770985 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fallen are the virtuous among us < 1401337982 935386 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I GET KNOCKED DOWN, BUt I get up again, and you're never gonna *trails off* < 1401338030 639935 :monotone!~monotone@room208.org NICK :polytone < 1401338041 503942 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fallen are the virtuous among us < 1401338267 525520 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :hug hug hug < 1401338450 237324 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm beginning to think these speakers are possessed. < 1401338697 489872 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's fungot when I need an exorcist? < 1401338753 469301 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :whither fungot < 1401338812 218573 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungone < 1401338840 359135 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1401339223 45359 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :how 'bout them turing machines < 1401339237 890597 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :never know when they're gonna stop < 1401339252 72281 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they call em turing but i've never seen em tur < 1401339304 65085 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no:tur = en:tour, hth < 1401339424 435386 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/news12.html < 1401339508 204747 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice < 1401339560 253387 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a flasing machine twh < 1401339621 215277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know google doesn't like a word when it corrects it even in quotes < 1401339778 603942 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1401339781 987917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets it < 1401341094 5576 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many tiles to people lose at Pokemon card by using a DEFENDER card even though it is to your opponent's advantage for you to do so? < 1401341334 192630 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :never < 1401341381 957312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly would not expect it to be common. < 1401341468 104568 :diginet!~diginet@li427-52.members.linode.com QUIT :Quit: diginet has quit! < 1401341902 705171 :BeingToDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1401342106 332185 :BeingToDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401342884 272180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :When playing at Pokemon card, I like to "slow play" the cards often. It saves me against running out of cards, and other things too. < 1401343530 627263 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1401344139 9960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1401344719 687150 :BeingToDeath!~BeingUnto@173-31-68-167.client.mchsi.com QUIT : < 1401345055 724812 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-113-246-11.play-internet.pl QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1401346207 876403 :jkool!~Jonathan@cpe-72-182-40-43.austin.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401346250 859658 :jkool!~Jonathan@cpe-72-182-40-43.austin.res.rr.com PART :#esoteric < 1401346599 979738 :tromp__!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401346635 521854 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401346641 662176 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep < 1401346997 351309 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know those game they tell you two picture, you have to figure out the difference? Now, there is one with animated pictures. < 1401348565 964541 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could say 'I need a drink' without being weird < 1401348954 607968 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1401348978 848296 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401350042 943373 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :What drink do you need? < 1401350547 329106 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would be an example of it being beneficial for the opponent if you use a defender? < 1401350670 38327 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: If you have an attack that damages both opponent's active and bench pokemon card, and you do not want to knock out the opponent's active pokemon card, then if they use DEFENDER card then it can be of your benefit. < 1401350684 562863 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1401350724 668578 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The stupid AI in Pokemon Card GB2 does that a lot. < 1401350774 539193 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember seeing that, but I also can't remember seeing many NPCs with defender cards < 1401350814 34681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I just didn't think about it < 1401351012 136808 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some strategy guides say the best time to use a GAMBLER card is when it is the only card in your hand, but I don't believe that. I think the best time is when your hand has a large number of worthless cards. < 1401351095 257513 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the 'pretend I'm not awake at 4:11 AM on a conference call for work' drink < 1401351381 542249 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone please help me < 1401351425 804336 :{hk3380}!~test@90.214.135.230 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401351443 117485 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should just go back to sleep then? < 1401351488 317966 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't, until the call is done < 1401351685 4588 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yibemagpbwmfwceh QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1401351739 588147 :{hk3380}!~test@90.214.135.230 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401352214 96600 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401352805 839975 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: There are a few NPCs in such a game who have DEFENDER cards. Mostly ones with electric pokemon cards, but there are some others. < 1401353053 62245 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coworker told me to drop off the call < 1401353055 931556 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :FInally sleep < 1401353668 989371 :diginet!~diginet@107.170.146.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401353850 448473 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1401353850 566581 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401354802 601075 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Rail14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39719&oldid=39612 5* 0384.174.99.204 5* (+242) 10 < 1401357670 651086 :{hk3380}!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401358146 714480 :{hk3380}!~test@natvip29.york.ac.uk QUIT :Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8 < 1401358346 133944 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, broken implementationss < 1401358410 325203 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401359596 412404 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401361796 90509 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1401362111 967753 :Sorella!~queen@oftn/member/Sorella JOIN :#esoteric < 1401362173 516942 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401364645 911044 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401365069 546399 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1401366025 904073 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1401366467 866762 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401366868 374930 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1401367931 151699 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1401369170 535267 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401369619 192714 :sign!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :systemd < 1401369681 884448 :systemd!nyuszika7h@pdpc/supporter/active/nyuszika7h NICK :sign < 1401370131 307840 :spiette!~spiette@2607:fad8:4:6:f2de:f1ff:fe66:77e5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401370440 95288 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401370465 386576 :nooodl!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401370687 465703 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401370986 348880 :nycs!~nycs@rrcs-24-39-141-128.nyc.biz.rr.com NICK :`^_^v < 1401371513 282106 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1401371555 710921 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric < 1401371590 94253 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1401371937 414359 :nooodl!~nooodl@36.123-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401371987 423439 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401372156 972441 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401372241 508601 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal JOIN :#esoteric < 1401373265 234612 :password2!~password@197.78.138.232 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401373936 767687 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1401374648 246685 :Slereah_!~jackal@176.222.51.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401374748 369477 :Slereah!~jackal@176.222.51.233 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401375219 568556 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401375396 473484 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401375494 31803 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401376233 339521 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1401376364 327494 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: g2g < 1401377543 633942 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, there are 2^53-1 doubles that represent NaN, so you can use them to store pointers, which each take up only 48 bits. < 1401377556 49201 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmhm < 1401377749 648288 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a standard C function that prints a double parsimoniously? < 1401377927 998846 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsimoniously meaning what? < 1401377969 606664 :rottytooth!~rottytoot@38.96.153.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401378019 546636 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using exactly as many digits as necessary to identify the double value uniquely. < 1401378078 860808 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :%a, maybe < 1401378085 413932 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 1 / 5 < 1401378087 57361 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0.2 < 1401378143 774326 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would that require a magnanimous scanner? < 1401378147 324490 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I remember that is not exact, but 0.2 will parse into the same value, so 0.2 is sufficient output. < 1401378199 816965 :MDream!~fyrc@or-67-238-17-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net NICK :MDude < 1401378210 910236 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf(%a\n", 1.0 / 5.0); < 1401378213 812829 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1401378224 586541 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%a\n", 1.0 / 5.0); < 1401378226 347604 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0x1.999999999999ap-3 < 1401378309 923320 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be restricted to hex output. < 1401378339 269200 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and the float radix is two, so... < 1401378384 282332 :Jafet!~jafet@unaffiliated/jafet PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Linux libc4.[45] does not have a snprintf(), but provides a libbsd that contains an snprintf() equivalent to sprintf(), that is, one that ignores the size argument." < 1401378424 389444 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1401379574 38883 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the axiomatic solution to security. (axiom 1: buffers do not overflow) < 1401379609 246129 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :sprintf will never fail due to a small buffer, that's pretty great compared to snprintf which might just not print the whole string < 1401379726 519791 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :the buffer might extend into the sprintf stack frame, destroying data it's working with, thus causing it to fail. hth < 1401379750 42430 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know, stacks generally grow downwards so that scenario is unlikely) < 1401379791 682779 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well buffers certainly overflow themselves < 1401379811 530509 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :+not < 1401379816 127498 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1401379823 281023 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :know the whole pointe is gone < 1401379825 101344 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1401379843 482941 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a point? < 1401379896 416881 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1401379898 432106 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the french word < 1401379967 459348 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401379967 862289 :tertu!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1401380036 237948 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401380089 692732 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ilgneczuqxnnhbvb JOIN :#esoteric < 1401380222 451584 :ter2!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1401380542 317875 :tertu3!~tertu@143.44.70.199 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1401381813 240484 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401381968 563011 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-209-211.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1401383244 190799 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1401383881 890282 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401387284 487710 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401389225 125875 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-209-211.play-internet.pl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401389273 263701 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-209-211.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1401389842 371853 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1401391135 580235 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401391143 908819 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello little esopotatoes < 1401391218 704098 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-43-203.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401391335 171861 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1401391335 372649 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-71-252.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401391499 690015 :edwardk_!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401391947 310325 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1401391962 578147 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401392620 335110 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :all hail discordia < 1401392831 684222 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh most beautiful apple. or something < 1401392852 292802 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401392879 678522 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A42986.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401393153 269431 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401393176 853737 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :pomme de terre < 1401393215 194912 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :aardappel < 1401393774 918574 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1401393785 251058 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/a/HWXfc < 1401393826 932261 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't need to see that < 1401393855 69328 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: "esopotamians" < 1401393858 798140 :polytone!~monotone@room208.org NICK :monotone < 1401393872 791153 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1401393955 333812 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.walmart.com/ip/Butterfly-Labs-Bitcoin-Miner-10-GH-S-Processor-USB-2.0-BF0010G/34952957 < 1401394252 32166 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the current rate that will mine one bitcoin in 150 years? < 1401394329 758078 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah no, that's block per year; the reward per block is higher < 1401394385 910699 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 6 years per bitcoin currently, if you add it to some pool. < 1401394391 907333 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get effective Bitcoining with the Butterfly Labs Bitcoin Miner. It is easy to use and can be plug-n-play via USB 2.0. It has 65nm ASIC Bitcoin Mining Chips to keep track of every transaction and fast processing of data. Its sleek design allows you to keep it on your workstation and experience its power. < 1401394604 908781 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what's its power consumption? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison doesn't list anything < 1401394646 714344 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric < 1401394681 632402 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it seems reasonable to assume that it's the same as the 5GH and 20GH models. < 1401394716 202400 :password2!~password@197.78.138.232 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401394738 895169 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that would be 60W < 1401395068 267306 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :which adds about $100 a year to your electricity bill? < 1401395139 758117 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at $0.16 a kWh; the price for electricity varies a lot) < 1401395178 626068 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :at my electricity price I think it'd be more like $10/year < 1401395203 22040 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 60*24*365 / 10^3 < 1401395204 498218 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 525.6 < 1401395236 444343 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 60*24*365 / 10^3 * 0.16 < 1401395237 915673 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 84.096 < 1401395259 516811 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 10 / (60*24*365) < 1401395261 108972 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1.9025875190258754e-5 < 1401395286 922789 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :$0.02/kWh ? that seems too low < 1401395426 883118 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, ~100 re isn't a tenth of a SEK < 1401395576 86097 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :525.6kWh/year times 0.6948 SEK/kWh is about $55/year < 1401395586 726503 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/electricprices.gif < 1401395599 657481 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that a refurbish? < 1401395622 803276 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ok. < 1401395731 47337 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to google that's exactly $.10 per kwh ... but it probably doesn't include *all* the taxes and fees < 1401396066 607265 :rottytooth!~rottytoot@38.96.153.66 PART :#esoteric < 1401396077 234805 :rottytooth!~rottytoot@38.96.153.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401396129 554483 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting table of Mhash/J there, surprisingly small difference between gpus and cpus, and a huge leap to the asics and fpgas < 1401396181 915613 :rottytooth!~rottytoot@38.96.153.66 QUIT :Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Chicks dig it < 1401396325 969717 :tromp!~tromp@rtc35-154.rentec.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :my PoW tries to reduce that big gap < 1401397225 705759 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401397320 152407 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401397533 552024 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1401397533 677973 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401397667 639582 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1401397938 634143 :Patashu_!Tenmu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1401398138 612024 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea where I can find stats on the number of IP-based telecom networks, the number of IP addresses they use, and which version of IP they support? < 1401398160 173526 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: taht depends on what exactly you mean by IP-based < 1401398168 120495 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you talking about IP-to-the-customer? < 1401398183 606715 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just doing backhaul over IP? < 1401398207 222239 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what IP-to-the-customer means exactly, but I think I'm just talking about backhaul over IP. < 1401398235 202513 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stuff like magicjack or a SIP phone provider, where the customer has some IP device that connects < 1401398262 276485 :Bike!~Glossina@75-175-71-252.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401398264 662731 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, well, that would be included, but I was just talking about any kind of telecom network that uses IP as its backbone. I'm assuming it's likely the majority of telecon networks at this point. < 1401398270 379419 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :versus something more like a traditional phone carrier that does backhaul over IP, like Comcast < 1401398364 343868 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-205-94.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401398369 494160 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody doing cell phones is doing IP. Every non-traditional (eg, cable company) phone provider is doing IP < 1401398405 894523 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some legacy provider networks may not, but that'll just be because they're on like 20 year hardware replacement cycles < 1401398534 695106 :kmc!~keegan@ec2-50-17-127-187.compute-1.amazonaws.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they run SS7 over IP? < 1401398538 202635 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I'm just trying to find stats on Ipv4 vs v6 in telecom networks < 1401398553 344604 :kallisti!~adam@h174.133.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :in particular how many IPv4 addresses are being used by telecom infrastructure < 1401398563 981446 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kmc: yes < 1401398598 522689 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :kallisti: Last I had access, it's nearly all using 10/8 < 1401398599 875782 :edwardk_!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401398645 443068 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 private address space < 1401398660 744574 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol < 1401398660 798416 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric : inet addr:10.8.115.127 P-t-P:10.0.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 < 1401398663 361469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay. < 1401398720 674688 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I had a pretty narrow view so I could be wrong in a global sense < 1401398753 602185 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1401398794 656250 :not^v!~notnot^v@173-15-245-174-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401398841 938786 :mcpherrin!~mcpherrin@c-50-185-88-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :global routing stuff is done with SCCP and GTT and I dunno I forget all this stuff < 1401399398 423470 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1401399600 820870 :not^v!~notnot^v@173-15-245-174-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif < 1401399777 503892 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401400679 814991 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric : anneal your pgorgram into existence ← uh, what? < 1401400709 144810 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hellosteric < 1401400767 789921 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tanesotericelle. < 1401400771 678285 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1401401042 563131 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bought some comics today :) < 1401401087 919365 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401401247 779172 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: which ones? what kind? format? language? ink? < 1401401269 983323 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :An Avengers vs X-Men collection, portrait, english, unknown < 1401401296 51938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the first volume of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, portrait, english, unknown but largely black-and-white < 1401401540 145954 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :good choices. < 1401401600 217043 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1401401604 896273 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am afraid I am too monolingual to appreciate the comics in any other language < 1401402128 423196 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 JOIN :#esoteric < 1401402159 451670 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1401402371 453668 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: not a problem. can read them. < 1401402389 64237 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1401402392 757143 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/can/you can/ < 1401402446 531622 :MDude!~fyrc@or-67-238-17-218.dhcp.embarqhsd.net QUIT :Quit: later chat < 1401402506 713185 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401402528 354289 :rottytooth!~rottytoot@static-71-183-108-23.nycmny.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401402558 119334 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1401402756 37277 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Client Quit < 1401403261 573837 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401403396 677397 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: Poulet! < 1401403407 819472 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, interested in full-disk encryption. Going to try out TrueCrypt on the drive with all my important documents. I hear there's a new version, should try it out < 1401403431 19372 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i being trolled < 1401403679 318665 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cryptoworld is being trolled, apparently < 1401403694 16568 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptosphere? Like biosphere? < 1401403707 322562 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a hell of a b movie < 1401403734 290259 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :cryptobubble? < 1401403735 956034 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am obliged to annoy y'all by linking http://xkcd.com/538/ < 1401403744 764971 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm annoyed already < 1401403749 64116 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1401403759 310300 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so annoyed I am going to go to bed < 1401403761 749586 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight! < 1401403774 86472 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, getting an ice cream today was the best idea. < 1401403789 740826 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION also got some ice cream, with apple cake < 1401403989 629695 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: also imagine Sgeo neither has backups nor wipes the unencrypted parts of the disk properly afterwards. < 1401404018 875030 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ my backup situation is... uh... (not trolling about that) < 1401404024 232903 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess truecrypt installation ought to handle the latter, or something. < 1401404039 517933 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no idea, but it *ought* to. < 1401404091 690234 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : cryptobubble? <-- oh right time for my daily bitcoin check < 1401404118 214233 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks stable < 1401404132 700918 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun chart. http://divananalit.org/graphs/bitcoin-profitability-from-20130201-to-now.png < 1401404188 684417 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least the difficulty is nice and regular < 1401404254 148183 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's mostly an efficient market. < 1401404311 838102 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1401404321 912752 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit hard to read from that whether the miners are actually profiting or not < 1401404331 467988 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the way to make money off bitcoing mining though, is to either sell the next generation of miners or to be an electricity company) < 1401404371 180501 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. I was reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570396.0 < 1401404874 990529 :tromp_!~tromp@ool-4570a006.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401404931 338518 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there are two ways to mine profitably. one, be an early adapter of the next jump in efficiency (not much room left there, apparently), or 2, mine on other people's hardware (think botnet). < 1401404966 631460 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well botnets still cost money. < 1401404972 201562 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder when the break even point is < 1401404979 551440 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the uh, opposite. < 1401404982 805446 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fix even? break bad?? < 1401405105 210594 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1401405124 854188 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I understand your meaning of "opposite" right, the opposite is also break even? < 1401405179 701067 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :"running on other people's hardware" also includes javascript bitcoin miners (a horrible waste of resources, but it's born by the website visitors) < 1401405192 318609 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's -> the cost is < 1401405244 634282 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: but time reversed, yes < 1401405255 774502 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck entropy, though, so it's basically the same < 1401405347 178826 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1401405567 699754 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401405595 627727 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1401405645 639389 :skarn!skarn@binary.firrre.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1401405666 287450 :skarn!skarn@binary.firrre.com NICK :Guest53344 < 1401405727 720060 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE aretecode < 1401405728 864080 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ArEtEcOdE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: . (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.) < 1401405741 593930 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.alcula.com/calculators/finance/bitcoin-mining/ looks fun to play with < 1401405814 734459 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oejan, HackEgo, thank you! < 1401405862 927845 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_page says there is currently no text in this page. < 1401405889 720429 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm.. < 1401405893 712174 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1401405894 318218 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1401405922 207815 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 PRIVMSG #esoteric :help my uncle Jack off a horse < 1401406134 698767 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aretecode: sadly the P needs to be capitalized too. < 1401406172 620359 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401406210 366435 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie i think the job of making the url's in `WELCOME and `WeLcOmE actually work has now devolved to you. < 1401406210 617211 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1401406321 913393 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the previous webmaster overcomplicated it so much that he gave up on actually implementing it. < 1401406343 328836 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would think it would be easiest to send it without "Main_Page" just like http://esolangs.org/wiki < 1401406362 971665 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aretecode: well that still won't make /WiKi work < 1401406382 969030 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :In your router, lower case the argument < 1401406392 342245 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and indeed we did that for the spanish version, because it wouldn't fit on a line otherwise < 1401406408 953283 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aretecode: yeah but fizzie will have to do that. < 1401406438 869978 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oejan, you made the url longer so that it would fit on a line in spanish?? < 1401406453 753462 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, shorter. the spanish has extra info < 1401406457 320272 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bienvenido < 1401406457 987559 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.) < 1401406483 512543 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that info being "We don't actually speak spanish here") < 1401406502 365994 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1401406518 442882 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we made it just that, no /wiki. hm... < 1401406542 121073 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, that bit is also case insensitive < 1401406546 314690 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _would_ work on `WELCOME and `WeLcOmE < 1401406574 919744 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :took us a few years to work that out... did esolangs.org/ not use to redirect to the wiki? < 1401406580 204164 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) doesn't fit on a line for me 2) what olsner said 3) it isn't a spanish site < 1401406604 189666 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :aretecode: not a line in your client, but the maximal irc line limit < 1401406664 533086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's!wiki/main_page!!i' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME} < 1401406665 21399 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401406673 122709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1401406673 758497 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1401406676 589947 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1401406688 525341 :aretecode!~aretecode@173.192.170.114-static.reverse.softlayer.com PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah that makes sense. < 1401406694 360702 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some option to make s case insensitive < 1401406766 547452 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :online GNU sed manual says capital I < 1401406805 202811 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's!wiki/main_page!!I' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME} < 1401406805 724724 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401406809 302679 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1401406811 199152 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1401406829 421395 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -I -i 's!wiki/main_page!!' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME} < 1401406829 570474 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: invalid option -- 'I' \ Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \ < 1401406840 808780 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably not GNU sed :( < 1401406845 244148 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed --version` < 1401406845 648737 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1401406861 372136 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname` < 1401406861 843936 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1401406866 736195 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run arch` < 1401406867 238216 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file < 1401406871 902570 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed --version < 1401406872 321834 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GNU sed version 4.2.1 \ Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, \ to the extent permitted by law. \ \ GNU sed home page: . \ General help using GNU so < 1401406875 328119 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: no ending ` sheesh < 1401406882 827404 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo siento < 1401406898 107072 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07TOD14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39720&oldid=31565 5* 03Null 5* (+120) 10/* Execution */ add two missing instructions < 1401406913 517549 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run uname < 1401406913 967758 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux < 1401406918 433446 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I figured < 1401406962 68196 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo asdf | sed 's/ASDF/foo/i' < 1401406962 558452 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1401406964 336286 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -p -n -i 's!wiki/main_page!!i;' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME} < 1401406964 767902 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't open perl script "s!wiki/main_page!!i;": No such file or directory < 1401406975 729583 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -p -n -i -e 's!wiki/main_page!!i;' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME} < 1401406976 205917 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401406984 971284 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1401406985 646866 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1401406991 478944 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1401407034 943867 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's the !s < 1401407057 410165 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, no I don't < 1401407057 501553 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about them < 1401407080 486382 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's!WiKi/MaIn_pAgE!!' bin/WeLcOmE < 1401407081 22685 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401407087 186252 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1401407087 874210 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1401407097 139764 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1401407103 159997 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/WeLcOmE < 1401407103 567174 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | CaT < 1401407112 424439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1401407141 235277 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1401407141 885266 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1401407162 959893 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e ',WiKi/MaIn_pAgE,!d' bin/WeLcOmE < 1401407163 396957 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `,' < 1401407165 437700 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -i 's!wiki/Main_Page!!' wisdom/welcome < 1401407168 800594 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401407174 39901 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`welcome < 1401407174 785427 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: . (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.) < 1401407180 112031 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there. < 1401407191 575492 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run sed -e '\,WiKi/MaIn_pAgE,!d' bin/WeLcOmE < 1401407192 14251 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1401407208 829649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: plz stop and pay attention hth < 1401407215 21130 :Rugxulo!~user@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo siento < 1401407229 948275 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WeLcOmE < 1401407230 684696 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: . (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.) < 1401407231 281869 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was a stupid mistake of not remembering how the `welcomes work) < 1401407271 270735 :Bike!~Glossina@67-5-205-94.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1401407308 521988 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell fizzie Never mind, we found a better way < 1401407308 575901 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1401407339 461915 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-125-221.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1401407940 120651 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.235 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds