00:02:13 <kmc> mcpherrin: first we should have let string = objc![[NSString alloc] initWithCString: "Hello, world!"];
00:02:22 <kmc> Objective Rust
00:02:23 <kmc> I saw someone is working on Rust for iOS...
00:02:41 <mcpherrin> kmc: go convince zwarich to do that. never let him escape his apple past
00:03:57 <kmc> it would be (slightly) useful for Servo
00:04:03 <kmc> and I really like writing macros
00:04:12 <myname> i wonder why i do find the most people that talk about rust outside the rust channel here of all the channels
00:04:14 <kmc> but I know nothing about ObjC or OS X and probably can't be bothered to learn it
00:04:26 <kmc> myname: because I talk a lot here and I'm a professional rust programmer
00:04:42 <mcpherrin> I wish I was a professional rust programmer
00:04:57 <kmc> mcpherrin: I also wish you were a professional rust programmer
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00:05:09 <myname> how's documentation going?
00:05:09 <kmc> are there any esoteric languages with substructural type systems?
00:05:48 <Bike> i've been assuming mcpherrin was a rustc dev, lol
00:05:59 <mcpherrin> Bike: only in an open-source/community sense
00:06:10 <Bike> get mozilla to pay you
00:06:11 <kmc> right now I can't build rustc due to bullshit
00:06:38 <mcpherrin> I haven't hacked on rust itself, just written code in it
00:06:39 <myname> also: what the hell is pefunge? why is it listed at that codegolf site but not in our wiki?
00:14:05 <nooodl> myname: the japanese esolang/golf community is a bit obscure like that!
00:15:10 <zzo38> There are also a few other Japanese esolang stuff that weren't on esolang wiki, although I have added some of them.
00:15:47 <myname> so there are japanese esolang sites?
00:16:08 <myname> finally some useful work for all those weaboos
00:16:49 <nooodl> it seems to be mostly centered around a bunch of hatena blogs but i dunno
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00:20:19 <oerjan> myname: it's like a parallel world that we barely know about.
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01:11:18 <Sgeo> Is there anything interesting about Objective-C other than a slight Smalltalk heritage that drops the fantasic IDE?
01:12:57 <impomatic> Debating whether to call my gf to ask where the laminator is?
01:12:57 <impomatic> Pros: I bet she knows exactly where it is.
01:12:57 <impomatic> Cons: She gets annoyed at the slightest thing. Calling at 2:12am might not be the best idea.
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01:19:59 <kmc> every program is an interpreter
01:20:02 <kmc> every vegetable is a word
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01:39:38 <kmc> bremsstrahlung
01:46:34 <kmc> party pooper?
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01:58:51 <Sgeo> kmc: do you agree with the ; making a significant semantic difference thing?
01:59:29 <Sgeo> 1;2 is 2, 1;2; is (), iiuc
01:59:35 <kmc> return -ESGEO;
01:59:51 <kmc> you are talking about rust?
02:00:00 <kmc> yes, i am fine with that
02:00:16 <kmc> as long as the compiler gives a useful error message when you have a spurious semicolon at the end of a function
02:00:27 <kmc> which is a bug I opened; I don't remember if it's been fixed
02:02:05 <Sgeo> Rust doesn't try to be innovative, does it? Where does it get its inherited mutability concept from? Doesn't seem Haskelly, unless you consider using State + lenses to be similar
02:02:28 <kmc> there are some innovative things
02:03:58 <kmc> mainly lifetime checking, and statically enforced move semantics
02:04:08 <kmc> it's the first "mainstream" language with substructural types, isn't it?
02:04:18 <kmc> where I have carefully defined "mainstream" to just barely include Rust
02:04:37 <kmc> Sgeo: http://doc.rust-lang.org/rust.html#influences
02:05:00 <kmc> 'Rust is not a particularly original language. It may however appear unusual by contemporary standards, as its design elements are drawn from a number of "historical" languages that have, with a few exceptions, fallen out of favour.'
02:05:25 <Sgeo> "The lexical identifier rule of Python."
02:05:32 <Sgeo> That seems... a bit like faint praise
02:05:41 <kmc> i don't even know what that means
02:05:54 <Sgeo> I'm guessing which characters are allowed in names
02:05:55 <kmc> but i don't disapprove of faintly praising python :)
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02:12:12 <Sgeo> Smalltalk should use lifetime semantics for ^
02:13:37 <oerjan> kmc: so you are saying Rust is already more mainstream than Clean ever was?
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02:16:10 <Sgeo> kmc: or maybe it means 'self' instead of 'this'
02:17:36 <kmc> http://alexweymouth.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/socialist-hierarchy.png
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02:22:58 <ion> kmc: > Copyright
02:24:07 <Bike> socialism is hardly anti-copyright
02:24:51 <HackEgo> /home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: `coins: not found
02:26:02 <HackEgo> lobolgaarvcoin refixacoin selfrovcoin remiecoin embergeompsringariologcoin totteravecoin lowfourcoin bamcoin fobcoin booblcoin embcoin brycoin jamecoin neumenernanchcoin stilecoin marchiecoin beauxcoin erarcoin gammaerolamcoin tamcoin
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02:48:05 <zzo38> Are there any MML->MOD compilers that you know of?
02:48:27 <Bike> i i i i i i i i i i i i i i
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02:56:06 <zzo38> What are the rules for ordering MIDI messages?
02:57:12 <kmc> i before e except after c
02:57:31 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[1+]] M http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39718&oldid=39712 * Oerjan * (+6) Ye olde conformity
03:02:55 <zzo38> Do you like this C macro? #define objdup(x) memcpy(malloc(sizeof(x)),&(x),sizeof(x))
03:04:08 <Bike> It Is A Bad macro
03:04:24 <Bike> gotta capitzlie eevyerhint
03:04:37 <zzo38> Why do you want to capitalize it?
03:04:58 <Bike> god told me my warranty was out
03:05:21 <zzo38> Yes, malloc could fail
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03:06:04 <mcpherrin> if it does you'll write to 0 which is fine since you'll fault immediately
03:06:20 <Bike> why is it a macro anyway
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03:06:56 <zzo38> Bike: So that "sizeof" can be used?
03:07:30 <Bike> i thought you could use sizeof on values in this glorious future
03:07:32 <mcpherrin> Bike: can't write that as a function in C since you don't have generics otherwise
03:08:02 <Bike> i also thought memcpy and malloc just did void* shit
03:08:32 <mcpherrin> passing a void* to the function doesn't work since you then can't use sizeof
03:11:17 <oerjan> !c printf("%d\n"; sizeof (void));
03:12:14 <oerjan> !c printf("%d\n", (int) sizeof (void));
03:13:04 <zzo38> I think it is a GNU extension that sizeof(void) is allowed
03:13:23 <pikhq> It's a consequence of allowing arithmetic on void*.
03:13:38 <Bike> so i have unfortunately discovered i am pissy about a programming thing: namely, the billionth fucking time somebody walks into irc and complains about an "inaccurate" division
03:20:02 <Bike> !c printf("%f\n", 1.0/3.0);
03:23:43 <Bike> !c printf("%f\n", (float)(1.0/3.0)); // i don't know c lel
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03:24:09 <mcpherrin> Bike: inaccurate as in "I don't understand IEEE754"?
03:24:35 <mcpherrin> the other option is inaccurate as in "wtf why doesn't this cpu do IEEE754 correctly"
03:24:44 <Sprocklem> !c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0/3.0+1.0/3.0+1.0/3.0);
03:24:45 <Bike> i mean, understanding floats is a tall order, but you could at least have the humility not to assume it's a bug
03:25:15 <Sprocklem> !c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0f/3.0f+1.0f/3.0f+1.0f/3.0f);
03:26:33 <Sprocklem> Bike: Generally assuming the cpu is doing IEEE754 correctly is right, even if it seems otherwise at first glace
03:28:46 <Bike> the problem in this case was 1/3 printing as .33333334
03:29:44 <Bike> Singles, but yeah.
03:30:57 <Bike> oh. i can't tell.
03:31:10 <Bike> !c printf("%.8f\n", 1.0f/3);
03:31:49 <mcpherrin> I had to write code on a hardware platform with broken floats for a few months
03:31:49 <Sprocklem> It's single prescision converted to double at printf (which shouldn't change the number)
03:32:09 <Bike> what platform? a dsp or something?
03:32:31 <mcpherrin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaverickCrunch
03:32:37 <Bike> "intended for digital audio", i was close
03:32:45 <Bike> plagued with hardware bugs lol
03:33:37 <mcpherrin> "imprecise or garbage results or clobber registers or memory"
03:33:40 <Bike> "Cirrus Logic's Crunch tools, a repackaging of GNU tools modified by Nucleusys of Bulgaria (or was it they who did the work later submitted by RedHat?)"
03:33:45 <Bike> v. encyclopedic
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04:19:32 <kmc> i know i won't be leavin' here w/ you
04:24:49 <monotone> (tempo slows, transition to second half of song)
04:25:27 <kmc> drink to the devil and death to the doctors
04:26:07 <monotone> I think this record is skipping.
04:27:49 <kmc> monotone: we, alone on earth, have the power to free ourselves from the tyranny of the selfish replicators
04:29:47 <monotone> Who swapped the music for audiobooks?!
04:29:49 <Bike> I'M A MAN OF WEALTH AND TASTE, HOPE YOU GUESSED MY NAAAAAME
04:32:56 <kmc> the fallen are the virtuous among us
04:33:02 <Bike> I GET KNOCKED DOWN, BUt I get up again, and you're never gonna *trails off*
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04:34:01 <kmc> the fallen are the virtuous among us
04:37:47 <kmc> hug hug hug
04:40:50 <polytone> I'm beginning to think these speakers are possessed.
04:44:57 <polytone> Where's fungot when I need an exorcist?
04:45:53 <Bike> whither fungot
04:53:43 <kmc> how 'bout them turing machines
04:53:57 <kmc> never know when they're gonna stop
04:54:12 <Bike> they call em turing but i've never seen em tur
04:57:04 <shachaf> http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/news12.html
04:59:20 <oerjan> what's a flasing machine twh
05:00:21 <oerjan> you know google doesn't like a word when it corrects it even in quotes
05:24:54 <zzo38> How many tiles to people lose at Pokemon card by using a DEFENDER card even though it is to your opponent's advantage for you to do so?
05:29:41 <zzo38> I certainly would not expect it to be common.
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05:54:44 <zzo38> When playing at Pokemon card, I like to "slow play" the cards often. It saves me against running out of cards, and other things too.
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07:03:17 <zzo38> Do you know those game they tell you two picture, you have to figure out the difference? Now, there is one with animated pictures.
07:29:25 <Sgeo> I wish I could say 'I need a drink' without being weird
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07:54:02 <zzo38> What drink do you need?
08:02:27 <FireFly> what would be an example of it being beneficial for the opponent if you use a defender?
08:04:30 <zzo38> FireFly: If you have an attack that damages both opponent's active and bench pokemon card, and you do not want to knock out the opponent's active pokemon card, then if they use DEFENDER card then it can be of your benefit.
08:05:24 <zzo38> The stupid AI in Pokemon Card GB2 does that a lot.
08:06:14 <FireFly> I can't remember seeing that, but I also can't remember seeing many NPCs with defender cards
08:06:54 <FireFly> Maybe I just didn't think about it
08:10:12 <zzo38> Some strategy guides say the best time to use a GAMBLER card is when it is the only card in your hand, but I don't believe that. I think the best time is when your hand has a large number of worthless cards.
08:11:35 <Sgeo> zzo38: the 'pretend I'm not awake at 4:11 AM on a conference call for work' drink
08:16:21 <Sgeo> Someone please help me
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08:17:23 <zzo38> Maybe you should just go back to sleep then?
08:18:08 <Sgeo> Can't, until the call is done
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08:40:05 <zzo38> FireFly: There are a few NPCs in such a game who have DEFENDER cards. Mostly ones with electric pokemon cards, but there are some others.
08:44:13 <Sgeo> Coworker told me to drop off the call
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15:32:23 <Jafet> Apparently, there are 2^53-1 doubles that represent NaN, so you can use them to store pointers, which each take up only 48 bits.
15:35:49 <Melvar> Is there a standard C function that prints a double parsimoniously?
15:38:47 <Bike> parsimoniously meaning what?
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15:40:19 <Melvar> Using exactly as many digits as necessary to identify the double value uniquely.
15:42:23 <Jafet> Would that require a magnanimous scanner?
15:42:27 <Melvar> As I remember that is not exact, but 0.2 will parse into the same value, so 0.2 is sufficient output.
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15:43:30 <Melvar> !c printf(%a\n", 1.0 / 5.0);
15:43:44 <Melvar> !c printf("%a\n", 1.0 / 5.0);
15:45:09 <Melvar> Seems to be restricted to hex output.
15:45:39 <Bike> yeah, and the float radix is two, so...
15:46:24 <Jafet> "Linux libc4.[45] does not have a snprintf(), but provides a libbsd that contains an snprintf() equivalent to sprintf(), that is, one that ignores the size argument."
16:06:14 <int-e> that's the axiomatic solution to security. (axiom 1: buffers do not overflow)
16:06:49 <olsner> sprintf will never fail due to a small buffer, that's pretty great compared to snprintf which might just not print the whole string
16:08:46 <int-e> the buffer might extend into the sprintf stack frame, destroying data it's working with, thus causing it to fail. hth
16:09:10 <int-e> (I know, stacks generally grow downwards so that scenario is unlikely)
16:09:51 <mroman> well buffers certainly overflow themselves
16:10:23 <mroman> know the whole pointe is gone
16:10:43 <int-e> there was a point?
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19:43:40 <kmc> all hail discordia
19:47:11 <int-e> oh most beautiful apple. or something
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19:52:56 <kmc> pomme de terre
20:03:46 <int-e> I didn't need to see that
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20:05:55 <kmc> http://www.walmart.com/ip/Butterfly-Labs-Bitcoin-Miner-10-GH-S-Processor-USB-2.0-BF0010G/34952957
20:10:52 <int-e> At the current rate that will mine one bitcoin in 150 years?
20:12:09 <int-e> ah no, that's block per year; the reward per block is higher
20:13:05 <int-e> So 6 years per bitcoin currently, if you add it to some pool.
20:13:11 <kmc> Get effective Bitcoining with the Butterfly Labs Bitcoin Miner. It is easy to use and can be plug-n-play via USB 2.0. It has 65nm ASIC Bitcoin Mining Chips to keep track of every transaction and fast processing of data. Its sleek design allows you to keep it on your workstation and experience its power.
20:16:44 <int-e> so what's its power consumption? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison doesn't list anything
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20:18:01 <int-e> though it seems reasonable to assume that it's the same as the 5GH and 20GH models.
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20:18:58 <int-e> so that would be 60W
20:24:28 <int-e> which adds about $100 a year to your electricity bill?
20:25:39 <int-e> (at $0.16 a kWh; the price for electricity varies a lot)
20:26:18 <olsner> at my electricity price I think it'd be more like $10/year
20:26:43 <int-e> > 60*24*365 / 10^3
20:27:16 <int-e> > 60*24*365 / 10^3 * 0.16
20:27:39 <int-e> > 10 / (60*24*365)
20:28:06 <int-e> $0.02/kWh ? that seems too low
20:30:26 <olsner> hmm, ~100 re isn't a tenth of a SEK
20:32:56 <olsner> 525.6kWh/year times 0.6948 SEK/kWh is about $55/year
20:33:06 <int-e> http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/electricprices.gif
20:33:19 <tromp> isn't that a refurbish?
20:35:31 <olsner> according to google that's exactly $.10 per kwh ... but it probably doesn't include *all* the taxes and fees
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20:42:09 <olsner> interesting table of Mhash/J there, surprisingly small difference between gpus and cpus, and a huge leap to the asics and fpgas
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20:45:25 <tromp> my PoW tries to reduce that big gap
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21:15:38 <kallisti> any idea where I can find stats on the number of IP-based telecom networks, the number of IP addresses they use, and which version of IP they support?
21:16:00 <mcpherrin> kallisti: taht depends on what exactly you mean by IP-based
21:16:08 <mcpherrin> Are you talking about IP-to-the-customer?
21:16:47 <kallisti> not sure what IP-to-the-customer means exactly, but I think I'm just talking about backhaul over IP.
21:17:15 <mcpherrin> Stuff like magicjack or a SIP phone provider, where the customer has some IP device that connects
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21:17:44 <kallisti> ah, well, that would be included, but I was just talking about any kind of telecom network that uses IP as its backbone. I'm assuming it's likely the majority of telecon networks at this point.
21:17:50 <mcpherrin> versus something more like a traditional phone carrier that does backhaul over IP, like Comcast
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21:19:29 <mcpherrin> everybody doing cell phones is doing IP. Every non-traditional (eg, cable company) phone provider is doing IP
21:20:05 <mcpherrin> Some legacy provider networks may not, but that'll just be because they're on like 20 year hardware replacement cycles
21:22:14 <kmc> do they run SS7 over IP?
21:22:18 <kallisti> yeah I'm just trying to find stats on Ipv4 vs v6 in telecom networks
21:22:33 <kallisti> in particular how many IPv4 addresses are being used by telecom infrastructure
21:23:18 <mcpherrin> kallisti: Last I had access, it's nearly all using 10/8
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21:24:05 <mcpherrin> That is, IPv4 10.0.0.0/8 private address space
21:24:20 <int-e> ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
21:24:20 <int-e> inet addr:10.8.115.127 P-t-P:10.0.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.255
21:25:20 <mcpherrin> But I had a pretty narrow view so I could be wrong in a global sense
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21:27:21 <mcpherrin> global routing stuff is done with SCCP and GTT and I dunno I forget all this stuff
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21:57:59 <boily> <Bike> anneal your pgorgram into existence ← uh, what?
22:04:02 <Taneb> I bought some comics today :)
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22:07:27 <boily> Taneb: which ones? what kind? format? language? ink?
22:07:49 <Taneb> An Avengers vs X-Men collection, portrait, english, unknown
22:08:16 <Taneb> Also the first volume of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, portrait, english, unknown but largely black-and-white
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22:13:24 <Taneb> Yes, I am afraid I am too monolingual to appreciate the comics in any other language
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22:26:11 <boily> Taneb: not a problem. can read them.
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22:43:27 <Sgeo> So, interested in full-disk encryption. Going to try out TrueCrypt on the drive with all my important documents. I hear there's a new version, should try it out
22:47:59 <Sgeo> The cryptoworld is being trolled, apparently
22:48:14 <Sgeo> cryptosphere? Like biosphere?
22:48:55 <oerjan> i am obliged to annoy y'all by linking http://xkcd.com/538/
22:49:19 <Taneb> I am so annoyed I am going to go to bed
22:49:34 <Taneb> Also, getting an ice cream today was the best idea.
22:49:49 * oerjan also got some ice cream, with apple cake
22:53:09 <oerjan> Bicyclidine: also imagine Sgeo neither has backups nor wipes the unencrypted parts of the disk properly afterwards.
22:53:38 <Sgeo> :/ my backup situation is... uh... (not trolling about that)
22:53:44 <oerjan> i guess truecrypt installation ought to handle the latter, or something.
22:53:59 * oerjan has no idea, but it *ought* to.
22:54:51 <oerjan> <Taneb> cryptobubble? <-- oh right time for my daily bitcoin check
22:55:32 <int-e> fun chart. http://divananalit.org/graphs/bitcoin-profitability-from-20130201-to-now.png
22:56:28 <Bicyclidine> at least the difficulty is nice and regular
22:57:34 <int-e> I guess it's mostly an efficient market.
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22:58:41 <oerjan> it's a bit hard to read from that whether the miners are actually profiting or not
22:58:51 <int-e> (the way to make money off bitcoing mining though, is to either sell the next generation of miners or to be an electricity company)
22:59:31 <int-e> oerjan: right. I was reading this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570396.0
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23:08:51 <int-e> I guess there are two ways to mine profitably. one, be an early adapter of the next jump in efficiency (not much room left there, apparently), or 2, mine on other people's hardware (think botnet).
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23:12:04 <olsner> if I understand your meaning of "opposite" right, the opposite is also break even?
23:12:59 <int-e> "running on other people's hardware" also includes javascript bitcoin miners (a horrible waste of resources, but it's born by the website visitors)
23:13:12 <int-e> it's -> the cost is
23:14:15 <Bicyclidine> fuck entropy, though, so it's basically the same
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23:22:08 <HackEgo> ArEtEcOdE: wElCoMe tO ThE InTeRnAtIoNaL HuB FoR EsOtErIc pRoGrAmMiNg lAnGuAgE DeSiGn aNd dEpLoYmEnT! fOr mOrE InFoRmAtIoN, cHeCk oUt oUr wIkI: <HtTp://eSoLaNgS.OrG/WiKi/mAiN_PaGe>. (FoR ThE OtHeR KiNd oF EsOtErIcA, tRy #EsOtErIc oN IrC.DaL.NeT.)
23:22:21 <int-e> http://www.alcula.com/calculators/finance/bitcoin-mining/ looks fun to play with
23:24:22 <aretecode> http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_page says there is currently no text in this page.
23:24:54 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:28:54 <oerjan> aretecode: sadly the P needs to be capitalized too.
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23:30:10 <oerjan> @tell fizzie i think the job of making the url's in `WELCOME and `WeLcOmE actually work has now devolved to you.
23:32:01 <oerjan> the previous webmaster overcomplicated it so much that he gave up on actually implementing it.
23:32:23 <aretecode> I would think it would be easiest to send it without "Main_Page" just like http://esolangs.org/wiki
23:32:42 <oerjan> aretecode: well that still won't make /WiKi work
23:33:02 <aretecode> In your router, lower case the argument
23:33:12 <oerjan> and indeed we did that for the spanish version, because it wouldn't fit on a line otherwise
23:33:28 <oerjan> aretecode: yeah but fizzie will have to do that.
23:33:58 <aretecode> oejan, you made the url longer so that it would fit on a line in spanish??
23:34:13 <oerjan> no, shorter. the spanish has extra info
23:34:17 <HackEgo> ¡Bienvenido al centro internacional para el diseño y despliegue de lenguajes de programación esotéricos! Por desgracia, la mayoría de nosotros no hablamos español. Para obtener más información, echa un vistazo a nuestro wiki: http://esolangs.org/. (Para el otro tipo de esoterismo, prueba #esoteric en irc.dal.net.)
23:34:43 <oerjan> (that info being "We don't actually speak spanish here")
23:35:18 <oerjan> we made it just that, no /wiki. hm...
23:35:42 <olsner> hmm, that bit is also case insensitive
23:35:46 <oerjan> that _would_ work on `WELCOME and `WeLcOmE
23:36:14 <olsner> took us a few years to work that out... did esolangs.org/ not use to redirect to the wiki?
23:36:20 <aretecode> 1) doesn't fit on a line for me 2) what olsner said 3) it isn't a spanish site
23:36:44 <oerjan> aretecode: not a line in your client, but the maximal irc line limit
23:37:44 <oerjan> `run sed -i 's!wiki/main_page!!i' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME}
23:37:53 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: <hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE>. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
23:38:14 <oerjan> is there some option to make s case insensitive
23:39:26 <Rugxulo> online GNU sed manual says capital I
23:40:05 <oerjan> `run sed -i 's!wiki/main_page!!I' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME}
23:40:11 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: <hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE>. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
23:40:29 <oerjan> `run sed -I -i 's!wiki/main_page!!' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME}
23:40:29 <HackEgo> sed: invalid option -- 'I' \ Usage: sed [OPTION]... {script-only-if-no-other-script} [input-file]... \ \ -n, --quiet, --silent \ suppress automatic printing of pattern space \ -e script, --expression=script \ add the script to the commands to be executed \ -f script-file, --file=script-file \
23:40:40 <oerjan> this is probably not GNU sed :(
23:40:45 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
23:41:01 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
23:41:07 <HackEgo> bash: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' \ bash: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
23:41:12 <HackEgo> GNU sed version 4.2.1 \ Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. \ This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO \ warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, \ to the extent permitted by law. \ \ GNU sed home page: <http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/>. \ General help using GNU so
23:41:15 <oerjan> Rugxulo: no ending ` sheesh
23:41:38 <HackEgo> [wiki] [[TOD]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39720&oldid=31565 * Null * (+120) /* Execution */ add two missing instructions
23:42:42 <olsner> `run echo asdf | sed 's/ASDF/foo/i'
23:42:44 <oerjan> `run perl -p -n -i 's!wiki/main_page!!i;' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME}
23:42:44 <HackEgo> Can't open perl script "s!wiki/main_page!!i;": No such file or directory
23:42:55 <oerjan> `run perl -p -n -i -e 's!wiki/main_page!!i;' bin/{WeLcOmE,WELCOME}
23:43:05 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: <hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE>. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
23:44:40 <oerjan> `run sed -i 's!WiKi/MaIn_pAgE!!' bin/WeLcOmE
23:44:47 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: <hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/wIkI/MaIn_pAgE>. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
23:45:03 <HackEgo> #!/bin/sh \ welcome "$@" | CaT
23:45:41 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:46:02 <Rugxulo> `run sed -e ',WiKi/MaIn_pAgE,!d' bin/WeLcOmE
23:46:03 <HackEgo> sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `,'
23:46:05 <oerjan> `run sed -i 's!wiki/Main_Page!!' wisdom/welcome
23:46:14 <HackEgo> Welcome to the international hub for esoteric programming language design and deployment! For more information, check out our wiki: <http://esolangs.org/>. (For the other kind of esoterica, try #esoteric on irc.dal.net.)
23:46:31 <Rugxulo> `run sed -e '\,WiKi/MaIn_pAgE,!d' bin/WeLcOmE
23:46:48 <oerjan> Rugxulo: plz stop and pay attention hth
23:47:10 <HackEgo> WeLcOmE To tHe iNtErNaTiOnAl hUb fOr eSoTeRiC PrOgRaMmInG LaNgUaGe dEsIgN AnD DePlOyMeNt! FoR MoRe iNfOrMaTiOn, ChEcK OuT OuR WiKi: <hTtP://EsOlAnGs.oRg/>. (fOr tHe oThEr kInD Of eSoTeRiCa, TrY #eSoTeRiC On iRc.dAl.nEt.)
23:47:11 <oerjan> (it was a stupid mistake of not remembering how the `welcomes work)
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23:48:28 <oerjan> @tell fizzie Never mind, we found a better way
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