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< 1402877378 96495 :Icepy!18722be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.114.43.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check out my newest language! http://esolangs.org/wiki/Pluso
< 1402877417 197866 :Icepy!18722be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.114.43.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you make a looping construct like the one in brainfuck in python?
< 1402877478 26499 :Icepy!18722be6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.114.43.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello?
< 1402877527 681866 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :while loop probably
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< 1402877984 255214 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please be more specific? Are you trying to interpret the loop in brainfuck, or something else?
< 1402878117 525657 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're gone
< 1402878420 329641 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let me explain rule number three. If the accumulator is 91, then set it to 32. If the accumulator is 33, set it to 65. You have to print the ASCII value instead of the decimal value
< 1402878420 569472 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"
< 1402878426 584292 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually a 4th rule, isn't it?
< 1402878463 124610 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: accumulator starts at 65
< 1402878467 626697 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty important to mentio
< 1402878485 678557 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I see, those explain bounds
< 1402878529 846779 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's circular, I kind of like that
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< 1402881779 896427 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goodnight
< 1402881868 922495 :constant!root@freebsd/developer/variable NICK :function
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< 1402883775 482405 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi man,  i m a beginer fan of esolangs
< 1402883905 301423 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :has someone heard about a esoteric language oriented to deal  with issues about triality?
< 1402883968 889540 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :triality?
< 1402884011 111794 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, not triality of octonions exactly, in general
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< 1402884119 354327 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like a language with  built-in "ternarized" operations 
< 1402884138 175590 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok but what
< 1402884247 326123 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, a language that accept 3 input and produce 3 output in a simmetrical way?
< 1402884304 496013 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Symmetrical? Like a Toffoli gate?
< 1402884633 971620 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool,yes, things like that, but
< 1402884711 480413 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it serves a inspiration look this, http://vixra.org/abs/0911.0034 , in pages 51 there is a ternary square, in tthe 52 a ternary cube
< 1402884723 875476 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :vixra....
< 1402885169 866565 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, maybe this time i have not much success XD
< 1402885256 651145 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accept that ternary issues are not very popular XD
< 1402885300 654537 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't read spanish and vixra is full of crap, is the thing
< 1402885412 635376 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes the paper is in spanish, and vixra has "no good reputation", but i wanna to show the figures
< 1402885437 258757 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case that they inspires something....
< 1402885506 673124 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :copumpkin: whoa, you're not even in #-blah
< 1402885513 378399 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wonder you didn't see my message
< 1402885517 400850 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin PRIVMSG #esoteric :got sick of it :)
< 1402885530 992699 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't blame you
< 1402885614 415321 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿¿¿???
< 1402885674 550101 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, is this arithmetic on a 3d analog of quaternions
< 1402885689 378568 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure that's usually done as just a subgroupwhatever of quaternions
< 1402885694 724157 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has nothing to do with toffoli gates
< 1402885798 160240 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but i'm in search of thins about 3,  in general, but i more things with ternaryproperties in symmetry
< 1402885814 33774 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :thin->things
< 1402885944 778388 :Bike!~Glossina@216-161-92-128.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're unrelated. you'd be better off learning lie groups or something.
< 1402886000 70567 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necesary unrelated,  yes and no
< 1402886182 966892 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that specific observation about Toffoli gate and 3-symmetry yes, but....
< 1402886255 230183 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for ways to google, in alternatives way about triality
< 1402886305 159703 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you know some paper related to the issue, triality mainly
< 1402886357 183241 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :or issues  in a ternary version, too
< 1402886497 959104 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :i look for this, browsed wikipedia, google, arxiv and others
< 1402886892 328397 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :.....XD
< 1402887075 256034 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, also i'd like to post about a movement that has a little fame, right know, and if you know it, i wanna know your opinions
< 1402887092 272818 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KphWsnhZ4Ag
< 1402887193 305569 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 50 minute documentary of a social alternative by an 97 year old enginer
< 1402887457 29285 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uou4DiutW5g 
< 1402887703 763968 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :: | ......
< 1402887756 199507 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, i suppose i had some of "answer" this time
< 1402887771 950004 :gerard!ba69a8e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.105.168.230 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye
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< 1402891501 136757 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we make up a quiz (on Internet Quiz Engine) relating to esoteric programming, the wiki, IRC, and the people on this IRC and what they are doing?
< 1402892417 580842 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :if by "we" you mean "I", then I'm confident you can.
< 1402892800 756823 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I mean to many people make such things together, including me too.
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< 1402896566 918809 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd think stuff about us personally might be better as a separate quiz from stuff that you could find out without hanging out on the IRC.
< 1402896875 568063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but I mean only the stuff that is actually on the IRC and not stuff more personal than that. Also, stuff on the wiki and about esoteric programming, both in general and specific programming languages.
< 1402896903 60224 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even not only that; also thing like IRC bots and stuff used in here too.
< 1402896952 918012 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Quiz Engine can keep track of up to 78 variables, so that should be more than enough if you want different scores for different things.
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< 1402898221 963020 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot, produce an opinion on this quiz idea.
< 1402898231 273635 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right.
< 1402898244 392094 :MDude!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ask fungot to weigh in on this quiz idea.
< 1402898245 308150 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :MDude: so i started to look at the example cgi to specify that all .c and fnord will just do it for any implementation, like the borg. they have much too much homework.
< 1402900009 253214 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://37.media.tumblr.com/62a5b20362709db5949c6add1f2fdfd6/tumblr_n70l5aXm0W1tp1rx8o1_1280.jpg
< 1402900017 950418 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is the Dr. Wondertainment image?
< 1402900029 858311 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks almost like King Boomi
< 1402900038 458164 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bumi
< 1402900053 775763 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: yo
< 1402900054 226497 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: well, yes and no. i've read the grammar... it is probably a o(log(n)) and anonymous closures with ( lambda ( a) ( b ( lambda ( x)
< 1402900136 518247 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"So remember, if you, your friends, your family, your pets, or your neighbors have walked into an infant black hole, have been scalded (or vaporized!) by a miniature supernova, have touched anti-matter (or matter if you are composed of the opposite!), or any other space-themed accidents*, do not ask for a refund!"
< 1402900142 845104 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*This includes mosquitoes"
< 1402900682 257264 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why did you quote that
< 1402900682 553107 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it humor value: the absurdity of asking for a refund in a situation like that
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< 1402900841 718011 :Guest82745!~shikhin@120.59.235.119 NICK :shikhout
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< 1402900875 251041 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have thought the mosquito bit was also amusing
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< 1402906196 193985 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello
< 1402906220 378116 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am having some work troubles with semaphores, and I am wondering if I am using even the correct thing
< 1402906239 739073 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically I want a thread to wait until n threads are done to continue, is that the right thing to use 
< 1402906245 260429 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :like semaphore.h
< 1402906253 624347 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't seem to get it to work
< 1402906426 864368 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :a semaphore can be used as a mutex that allows up to n threads to hold the lock, but I don't think you can make a barrier with one
< 1402906440 3358 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang
< 1402906445 434873 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I use?
< 1402906510 430713 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hmm, if you start a semaphore at -n+1, then n threads can release it to get it to 1, then one thread can acquire it
< 1402906539 639179 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that was my first thought
< 1402906544 908608 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it didn't work
< 1402906554 44103 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I noticed that the semaphore value was unsigned int
< 1402906618 727022 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like there is a pthread_barrier
< 1402906649 573311 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the coral pthread barrier!
< 1402906689 869322 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also thx)
< 1402907052 522796 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good mooooorning
< 1402907069 863064 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hey
< 1402907126 86275 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BANCStar14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=39846 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+475) 10Created page with "== updating LIST == I was trying to update jloughry's LIST program to compile on a modern Unix.  I got some distance but the DOS code layered in everywhere is too much of a he..."
< 1402907579 165288 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pluso14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39847&oldid=39839 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+92) 10categorise
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< 1402908242 130140 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw yes, got the synchronization to work B3
< 1402908372 595923 :brandonsons!~singingbo@d173-180-174-224.bchsia.telus.net PART #esoteric :"Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is"
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< 1402908754 392126 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Pluso14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39848&oldid=39847 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+236) 10equivalent but less confusing formulation
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< 1402909060 515456 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :BANCStar seems a great language to parodize
< 1402909523 764945 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1402909543 547412 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barriers seemed pretty great when there was two threads but anything more and it seems to block at random
< 1402909547 284799 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whyyy
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< 1402912520 831992 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1402912525 330399 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a programming channel
< 1402912594 921722 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :no.
< 1402912599 479340 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a channel about mysticism
< 1402912605 821061 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :those people are just off-topic.
< 1402912612 548810 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1402912617 386183 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately they've overrun the place and we can't get rid of them.
< 1402912623 240232 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the bother
< 1402912634 526158 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's no problem
< 1402912649 792332 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :So are you seeking ultimate power
< 1402912657 98998 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION puts on his SICP wizard clothes
< 1402912682 636305 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/cover.jpg
< 1402912686 109379 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best cover
< 1402913086 673349 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :peacetech0: have you visited the Glorious Wiki? taken a peek at the Shiny PDF?
< 1402913244 701940 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha elliott
< 1402913265 283878 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1402913267 310034 :peacetech0!~alexandri@gateway/tor-sasl/alexandrite PRIVMSG #esoteric :still laughing at that :')
< 1402913276 809512 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that multithreading only got my thing twice as fast
< 1402913281 445165 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was expecting more gain
< 1402913316 890918 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should rewrite it a bit cleaner, but rewriting is a scary prospect
< 1402913334 461333 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fraught with maybe breaking it
< 1402913470 284203 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you write another thing while the first thing is still thinging?
< 1402913488 304125 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps!
< 1402913503 670564 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But first, let's try multithreading the third and final ressource heavy function
< 1402913573 827073 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then I guess tightening the code a bit
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< 1402916391 401907 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: FEATHERY CHICKEN
< 1402916712 247265 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought this was an channel about esoteric stuff
< 1402916715 960483 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like heal stones
< 1402916720 692550 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or reincarnation
< 1402916723 692877 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or flying pigs.
< 1402916741 167448 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of those three is real .
< 1402916896 503070 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a channel
< 1402916940 556562 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pigs on a plane?
< 1402917081 35212 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: I thought we had something about that in the channel topic, but it seems no
< 1402917250 164867 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402917503 301662 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at gerard's ternary questions.
< 1402917547 33182 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we tried to publish a paper about a ternary operation once, but it got rejected for not being interesting enough so we just dropped the attempt.
< 1402917644 93961 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe PRIVMSG #esoteric :then make it interesting
< 1402917682 170631 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that was just before i dropped out of research, so...
< 1402918508 833719 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Could make a nice horror movie
< 1402918773 758430 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:BANCStar14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39849&oldid=39846 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+380) 10/* updating LIST */
< 1402919105 951493 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402919224 525993 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer
< 1402919382 119495 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know why I might be able to ssh into a server but can't ssh out of it?
< 1402919397 138771 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :"server" (it's my desktop in my bedroom)
< 1402919661 599325 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideas: DNS misconfigured, some NAT thingy on the way. Oh and does the target have an ssh server running?
< 1402919741 158342 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and this is perhaps the most ridiculous idea of all: no ssh client on the server.
< 1402919800 841780 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can confirm it is not the last two
< 1402919808 756420 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :May be part of wider network issues
< 1402919861 319725 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps motherboard issues, the headphones aren't working either
< 1402919874 623303 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh
< 1402919882 699082 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: iptables
< 1402919916 909483 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can ssh in then that should rule out problems on the physical layer
< 1402919946 438400 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds
< 1402919985 62240 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can currently ssh in well enough to play Dwarf Fortress from 2 miles away
< 1402920290 580428 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402920569 976808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still guessing firewall :)
< 1402920724 259311 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f80b-12.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402921321 823532 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the linux thing to look at the time spent in each function?
< 1402921324 556026 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget the name
< 1402921330 528190 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :prof-something?
< 1402921341 782771 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, gprof
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< 1402923610 315592 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just had my face scanned FOR SCIENCE
< 1402923662 979151 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :for actual science? or for fake science?
< 1402923670 893089 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual science
< 1402923678 899252 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of my lecturers does research in computer vision
< 1402923794 11123 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.theengineer.co.uk/news/looks-familiar/304488.article I think
< 1402924702 937281 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :with some luck your face will be as famous as the opengl teapot.
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< 1402925876 304811 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does esoteric science count as fake science?
< 1402925973 447552 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
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< 1402926530 123108 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1402926536 248122 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you know two pairs of inverses
< 1402926550 42640 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reconstruct mod which number they are inverses
< 1402926919 444344 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. 3*15=1 and 5*9=1 holds both mod 22 and mod 44
< 1402926957 992056 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i don't know how i ended up giving THAT as an example)
< 1402927042 67947 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also mod 1, 2, 4 or 11
< 1402927065 825744 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it works mod primes?
< 1402927097 255505 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlikely
< 1402927100 274750 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, not uniquely in every case
< 1402927119 943399 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I also would have thought at least mod primes
< 1402927192 927268 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, obviously not
< 1402927199 582528 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :because both 2 and 11 are in that list!
< 1402927234 610368 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1402927238 883046 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a*b and c*d are inverses
< 1402927240 307926 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the rest are all of form 2^n * 11^m
< 1402927254 852384 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the gcd(a*b-1,c*d-1) should gives you the mod part
< 1402927270 756318 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :not uniquely though
< 1402927311 215088 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's probably more likley that allCommonFactorsOf(a*b-1,c*d-1) work?
< 1402927328 863540 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or factors(gcd(a*b-1,c*d-1))?
< 1402927365 43179 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think if y = x mod p
< 1402927377 265466 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then y = x mod factors(p)?
< 1402927418 770974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess if you are given 1 < a,b < p with a*b = 1 (mod p) then that is enough to reconstruct p.
< 1402928322 379977 :mihow!~mihow@rrcs-50-75-208-18.nyc.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402928402 508106 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: for p prime?
< 1402928616 555972 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1402928776 856902 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a*b = 1 (mod m) kinda means that neither a nor b is a factor of m?
< 1402928800 758506 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that
< 1402928807 463380 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1402928819 630562 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's a more strict condition than that
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< 1402929280 876825 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm?
< 1402929343 304676 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quintopia: yes
< 1402929353 82629 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quintopia: (that is, yes, for p prime)
< 1402929400 867934 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: a and b are multipicative inverses of each other, modulo m
< 1402929473 549164 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does replacing loops over array indices by loops over pointers improve the performance of code?
< 1402929480 55818 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or does the compiler not give a shit
< 1402929519 535187 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: a*b = 1 (mod m) means that m is a factor of a*b - 1, neither more nor less.
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< 1402929818 305997 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_: in C, there is no difference between array index addressing and pointers
< 1402929831 673142 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but I mean
< 1402929834 343331 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(behind the scenes, it's the same code)
< 1402929846 711180 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making the loop for(i=0;i<n;i++)
< 1402929863 20326 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or for(ptr=array;ptr<array+n;ptr++)
< 1402929881 985938 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well
< 1402929891 242956 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on your optimizer i guess
< 1402929899 813447 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good one would make them the same thing
< 1402929900 395259 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc with -O3
< 1402929903 445395 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm
< 1402929915 767103 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I'm out of optimizing ideas 
< 1402929920 726984 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Short of unrolling loops
< 1402929925 771659 :Quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, the difference is at most one instruction, so pick whichever makes for the cleanest code
< 1402929941 840249 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or using the GPU
< 1402930341 291517 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah_: what does your loop do?
< 1402930372 118069 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a 1D or a 2D array?
< 1402930372 436539 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backpropagation stuff
< 1402930432 346768 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sums over another array, does math things to the result, and save it to some array
< 1402930441 638784 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it contain conditions that are rarely met?
< 1402930467 367026 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on the size of the neural net
< 1402930471 469107 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's large enough you could use openmp and do a sum reduction
< 1402930498 234165 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usually it is ~ 3000 neurons 
< 1402930540 294980 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Divided among 8 threads, so about 400 per loop
< 1402930583 176277 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you checked for false sharing effects?
< 1402930606 891300 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know what that is
< 1402930630 326886 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you distribute stuff to multiple threads but those threads access same memory regions
< 1402930633 680158 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1402930644 531105 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't work really fast.
< 1402930645 787546 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, it's all independant
< 1402930669 531928 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :because after each write to memory the CPU will need to do cache writebacks and stuff
< 1402930690 522718 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if the data is shared)
< 1402930792 72191 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well...
< 1402930795 269230 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I'm out of ideas too
< 1402930803 539383 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :without seeing the actual code
< 1402930826 144969 :erdic!erdic@unaffiliated/motley JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402930840 396135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have some conditions if(foo) where foo is only in very rare cases true you could advise gcc with branch prediction stuff
< 1402930862 697139 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or in only very rare cases false)
< 1402930993 548932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculating the sum of an array on a GPU is weird btw ;)
< 1402931198 592151 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman : I dunno
< 1402931203 555878 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to make shit go faster
< 1402931242 672642 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the program stops working when I give it too much data D:
< 1402931354 16118 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I have a lot of possibly lost memory during the thread creation
< 1402931475 990107 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on the structure of your program there's also data speculation or control flow speculation you could do
< 1402931498 755037 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Zzo3814]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=39850&oldid=34413 5* 03GreyKnight 5* (+243) 10/* Esoteric Programming quiz */ new section
< 1402931519 525089 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :q/win 15
< 1402932148 751108 :conehead!~conehead@unaffiliated/conehead JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402932559 841862 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, there's the error
< 1402932565 986658 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :At some point the thread creation fails D:
< 1402932701 9623 :password2!~password@197.78.142.49 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402932855 377806 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pastequotes taneb
< 1402932857 446345 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/paste/paste.6358
< 1402932864 276476 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insufficient resources to create another thread, apparently
< 1402932865 784011 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn
< 1402933282 91869 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402933286 858914 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you spawning too many threads?
< 1402933324 839260 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know, I close down all threads after they're done
< 1402933328 339914 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's hard to check
< 1402933339 818448 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be a memory leak, since I can't check it with valgrind currentlu
< 1402933357 547013 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving
< 1402933377 460051 :MDream!~fyrc@c-71-58-118-227.hsd1.pa.comcast.net NICK :MDude
< 1402933394 735667 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a tool to check for how many pthreads you have in your program
< 1402933404 611814 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :htop?
< 1402933412 918580 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unix threads are just processes I thought
< 1402933439 431150 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, valgrind has a special thing for threads apparently
< 1402933441 377353 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELGRIND
< 1402933878 531429 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402933916 419607 :slereah_!~slereah@46.218.232.202 QUIT :Quit: Leaving
< 1402934044 207054 :password2!~password@197.78.142.49 QUIT :Read error: Connection timed out
< 1402935435 484980 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402936048 792161 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds
< 1402936146 919839 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone made this ten-question quiz of esoteric programming languages:  gopher://zzo38computer.org:70/1quiz.run*eSMi0614.  The question about when Feather is made is really strange!
< 1402936348 502071 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is made?
< 1402936351 310221 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :like... future?
< 1402936368 794558 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why the hell are you seriously posting a gopher link .
< 1402936433 484956 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FF can't even talk gopher
< 1402936445 724852 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 Unterminated filename [eSMi0614]
< 1402936452 575714 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :lynx can
< 1402936468 559273 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that there's a plugin for FF.
< 1402936504 381508 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, of course the . is part of the link.
< 1402936569 417839 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1402936575 355857 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of the xkcd comic
< 1402936583 756840 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to embed emoticons in paratheses
< 1402936596 109778 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hi there :) or (Hi there :))
< 1402936609 618920 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to embed punctuation in urls
< 1402936613 782377 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hi there (: )
< 1402936677 756680 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :4/10, about what I expected.
< 1402936721 564022 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I amm really bad
< 1402936723 671696 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 4/10 too
< 1402936742 787905 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get this question, "What is the integral of the family of terrible esolangs?"
< 1402936758 598581 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I only got the obvious ones
< 1402936823 275227 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't speak gopher
< 1402936830 437347 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't support gopher
< 1402936831 989808 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1402936840 710053 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :get a gopher client
< 1402936845 622314 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Foolish old technology
< 1402936851 710974 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works
< 1402936860 544927 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e, brainfuck
< 1402936875 134281 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The family of terrible esolangs is the brainfuck derivatives
< 1402936876 606513 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: I don't *understand* the question.
< 1402936883 763787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh.
< 1402936886 859927 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad pun. Thanks.
< 1402936929 893855 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: Thanks.
< 1402936938 807673 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've just insulted one of my esolangs 
< 1402936954 950571 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't like them either)
< 1402936968 867017 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I do not have a gopher client
< 1402937028 445019 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use firefox with overbite
< 1402937097 188532 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are other terrible and uninspired esolangs besides brainfuck derivatives
< 1402937138 435552 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, like half of mine
< 1402937161 288263 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :Broficiency Quotient                          -125
< 1402937540 195565 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :The quality of an esolang is determined by how much it's isomorphic to brainfuck .
< 1402937812 584087 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds
< 1402937825 119029 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that was a boolean property
< 1402937864 546959 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, overbite installed
< 1402937874 953524 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :No :)
< 1402937884 848734 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well...
< 1402937887 596276 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1402937893 360009 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the way I meant it
< 1402937895 791060 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything apart from zzo's site that's accessible only over gopher and interesting?
< 1402937899 256076 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how "similar" it is
< 1402937917 502209 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. how easy it is to write a transpiler from/to brainfuck
< 1402937930 94223 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's too easy the language is boring
< 1402938056 475684 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh
< 1402938129 785582 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is correct the . is part of the URL
< 1402938180 200596 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops.. 3/10
< 1402938203 184125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And once I publish my esolang generator
< 1402938210 880131 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wiki will be flooded with new esolangs :)
< 1402938248 510093 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is not difficult to write gopher client; the format is really easy. If you have a compatible version of Windows, you may use Visgopher.
< 1402938286 382674 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@nl9x.mullvad.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402938302 486237 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even spills out an interpreter for it
< 1402938316 137418 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got 9/10 on the esolang quiz. Afterward I checked the source file and found that the question about Feather is the one I answered incorrectly (it is unclear what they want).
< 1402938470 488530 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the answer on the not-predominantly-made-of-integers question?
< 1402938517 236215 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :After answering all the questions you can go back and view the source and see what all the correct answers are.
< 1402938560 218172 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be fun if esolangs came at the final exam tomorrow
< 1402938581 774911 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they just teached conventional languages
< 1402938595 436039 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but honestly
< 1402938595 859190 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck plus a constant surely??
< 1402938608 21227 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: the worst joke in the observable universe up there
< 1402938622 571706 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect a computer scientist to be able to write at least a programm that adds two numbers together just by reading the brainfuck spec
< 1402938641 281356 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure if any lecturer did that there'd be a real shitstorm coming 
< 1402938662 162117 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you didn't teach this!!!11"
< 1402938750 41668 :password2!~password@197.78.141.118 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402938862 917807 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: what did it teach?
< 1402938863 737754 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey adding numbers together is hard!! (if you use ascii.)
< 1402938885 784708 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: I don't really remember
< 1402938886 782412 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1402938887 444298 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm.
< 1402938889 800028 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortran, Lisp
< 1402938895 168074 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smalltalk, Modula-2
< 1402938899 312513 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python3
< 1402938916 273892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe some Algol and Pascal too
< 1402938929 720843 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :!
< 1402938935 227266 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a fun course
< 1402938942 916101 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... not really :)
< 1402938951 977364 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me anyway..
< 1402938958 293583 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not the python3, that sounds boring
< 1402938974 465377 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an excursus into functional programming
< 1402938982 990193 :nooodl!~nooodl@25.124-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortran...
< 1402939007 190177 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing special of course
< 1402939013 95445 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had a course where we learned prolog, haskell and c
< 1402939018 453434 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1402939019 293931 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1402939020 995681 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog
< 1402939024 505795 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had that too
< 1402939040 552048 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only interesting part of the whole course
< 1402939057 429159 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, lisp sounds fun to me
< 1402939060 629870 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :smalltalk too
< 1402939068 217828 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already knew Lisp
< 1402939075 987207 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Smalltalk is more PITA than anything else
< 1402939076 868013 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :fortran, modula2 and algol moreso from a historical perspective
< 1402939156 569961 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1402939200 133188 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be fun for someone who doesn't already know a lot of languages
< 1402939237 144774 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like Forth
< 1402939257 97462 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get why they didn't teach at least one stack based language
< 1402939263 578654 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but like 4 or 5 imperative ones
< 1402939320 495701 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1402939324 638298 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :java bytecode was also on the list
< 1402939324 946237 :lollo64it!~lorenzo@93-58-3-33.ip156.fastwebnet.it JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402939351 475927 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many I don't even remember :D
< 1402939373 797972 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, they could've tried to cover more paradigms
< 1402939395 459973 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :skip pascal and maybe algol, add forth and an array language
< 1402939403 54393 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess they'll focus lisp, prolog and python3 tomorrow
< 1402939408 611386 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :or s/forth/another concatenative language/ if you prefer
< 1402939578 854381 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree with Q5 in the quiz
< 1402939628 133868 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think
< 1402939754 337590 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only prepared for the crypto final exam on thursday
< 1402939790 647397 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that roughly means I programmed a lot of programs in TI Basic
< 1402939811 105473 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that print everything including the approach on how to get the solution etc.
< 1402939828 427652 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically just have to copy the stuff on the calculator display onto paper
< 1402939881 730130 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402939901 333180 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you allowed to use programs that have previously been written on that exam? I think what they had in some exams I did is a rule that you are not allowed to access programs which were written before the exam.
< 1402939940 451684 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did they check timestamps or what?
< 1402940009 82456 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't know @allowed
< 1402940015 569059 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just assume I am until they say otherwise
< 1402940025 679034 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lecturer said you can use a calculator
< 1402940031 815029 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to write down the solution step by step
< 1402940037 54967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for calculating inverses
< 1402940054 409356 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can write 3^-1 mod p = .... without having to do the euclidean thing 
< 1402940129 904841 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know they didn't usually actually check.
< 1402940187 993440 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They did sometimes tell you to put the cover from the calculator onto the floor so that you cannot read what is written on it, and to reset the memory in the calculator (and suggest you make backups if you have any files you want saved).
< 1402940202 97137 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh christ
< 1402940209 441850 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :earlier today i went into a physics exam without a calculator
< 1402940214 320530 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bad move
< 1402940261 681731 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you can program it you know how it works anyway
< 1402940336 208961 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as a program is just a step-by-step description
< 1402940354 914166 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're also allowed to bring the script with you
< 1402940360 980562 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which contains a step-by-step instruction too
< 1402940362 285783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :so...
< 1402940389 241602 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be like saying "You can bring 14 pages with your own notes"
< 1402940394 587850 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, that if you can program it you know how it works anyways.
< 1402940400 550029 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than saying "you may bring the book with you"
< 1402940407 59504 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can bring 14 pages I can also bring the book
< 1402940417 382628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only difference is I don't have to small print the book onto 14 pages
< 1402940427 585386 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you are allowed to bring your own notes, then yes you should definitely also be allowed to program the calculator ahead of time too.
< 1402940467 85477 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck you can even bring final exams with solutions from last semester
< 1402940480 21369 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoping they just change some numbers or constants
< 1402940502 979931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then that can be good as examples, at least, even if that isn't all they change.
< 1402940530 367171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1402940531 140692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1402940540 334014 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Prove that this thing here is a carmichael number"
< 1402940549 346932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only thing they can change IS the number ;)
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< 1402940587 969442 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what a carmichael number is, so I don't know if the method of proof can be changed too
< 1402940604 972413 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :a carmichael number is square free
< 1402940619 264836 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for every prime factor p of n, p-1 divides n-1
< 1402940622 587387 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there you go
< 1402940642 477598 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tell your calculator to factorize it, check if a factor occurs twice
< 1402940652 542497 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :then check forall p if p-1 mod n-1 is 0
< 1402940658 98715 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, I have a program for that :)
< 1402940689 233994 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh
< 1402940691 33114 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :vice verso
< 1402940695 245783 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :n-1 mod p-1
< 1402940766 778139 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Carmichael numbers are those sneaky numbers where the fermat primality test sucks at
< 1402940801 405766 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember once I had an exam where the rule was you were allowed to bring your own notes, but they have to fit on one side of a index card that you can read without using any special equipment, and it has to be hand-written.
< 1402940845 755447 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a challenge of who can write the smallest
< 1402940865 871243 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the addition "you can read without using any special equipment"
< 1402940893 352651 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also that's unfair to people who can't read small stuff .
< 1402940901 358737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or write small stuff .
< 1402940903 975419 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402940924 848993 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :or who whose habdwriting becomes hard to read when small
< 1402940925 182692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly for people like me who are too lazy to bother even using an index card .
< 1402940954 675932 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember showing up to some open book final exams without a book
< 1402941007 169089 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and when I got asked why I replied "Well, if I can't do it without a book I suck and don't deserve to pass anyway"
< 1402941048 819862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how big is an index card actually?
< 1402941079 805454 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :7cm x 12cm
< 1402941081 828566 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :roughly
< 1402941240 767238 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think for the exam tomorrow I've printed out like 300 A4 pages
< 1402941245 270477 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one-sided)
< 1402941256 557468 :MoALTz!~no@user-46-112-93-173.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402941355 189931 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I think it is 7cm x 12cm; I do not quite remember
< 1402941398 831864 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: is a pair of glasses "special equipment"?
< 1402941404 174301 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all the final exams probably around 1k A4 pages
< 1402941412 712042 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(final exams this semester)
< 1402941430 162696 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think glasses you normally wear is OK, but not magnifying glass and microscope and camera and stuff like that
< 1402941432 184661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :all for nothing. those poor trees :(
< 1402941494 125963 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, why didn't you print on both sides?
< 1402941510 734818 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also scaled down to A5 to fit four pages per sheet
< 1402941511 34125 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how to do that
< 1402941515 622312 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paper can be reused and recycled, and trees can be replanted. I prefer to reuse before to recycle, so sometimes when I want to write on a spare paper I will get some that someone has put in the recycling, or write on the other side (or possibly even the printed side) of something I have previously printed from the computer.
< 1402941522 479007 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those are 4 pages per page
< 1402941533 320724 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes even more than 4
< 1402941538 336169 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay
< 1402941581 301712 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it would be 5 times as expensive to print out
< 1402941669 731903 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :<mroman>   I remember showing up to some open book final exams without a book   ← I've done that too, but mostly because I didn't bother to buy the book in the first place
< 1402941704 698698 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually printing out the slides of the lecturer is enough
< 1402941724 23935 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the first year you know that buying the book is just expensive as shit and doesn't really help you at the exams anyway
< 1402941727 257543 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only open book exam I've done, the book was "Python 2's documentation"
< 1402941738 235925 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have your own copy of a book, is it OK to add your own writing into the book too?
< 1402941819 172524 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: yeah
< 1402941827 54625 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection
< 1402941834 270939 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :open book here means "bring whatever you want that's not electronics"
< 1402941852 475796 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. you can bring as much as you can carry ;)
< 1402941867 899855 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could bring your favorite fantasy book and read it during the exam
< 1402941873 995865 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually considered that
< 1402941885 958956 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :some lecturers have this sucky policy that you can't leave before 90 minutes
< 1402941895 102720 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's really boring just sitting there for 45 minutes
< 1402941926 789040 :vyv!~vyv@70.51.217.166 QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1402941960 799229 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of our exams have some standardised time until you can leave
< 1402941968 821051 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's one hour
< 1402941976 127644 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. but why?
< 1402941993 391944 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you're also allowed begin writing if you're up to 55 minutes late
< 1402942003 991850 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1402942004 491662 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1402942011 78152 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they can't let anyone in to begin writing once somebody has left the room, since they could've gotten answers from the other guy then
< 1402942012 406045 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't hav that @lat
< 1402942012 867856 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here
< 1402942017 214563 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you still cant leave early sometimes
< 1402942020 825581 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :*late
< 1402942022 16927 :vyv!~vyv@70.51.217.166 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402942041 986797 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also can't leave in the last 10 minutes, to avoid a flood of students leaving and distracting those who are madly scrambling to get as much down as they can
< 1402942178 206063 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last is the rule here as well.
< 1402942221 841485 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: if you're a bit late to an exam, you don't get to write it at all?
< 1402942903 679708 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider the disturbance to the other students
< 1402943014 346932 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true
< 1402943596 7600 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: officially, yes
< 1402943599 516067 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unofficially, no
< 1402943604 74538 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just get less time 
< 1402943612 259779 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're lucky
< 1402943682 537705 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :disturbance is overrated
< 1402943736 725850 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if the exam setting isn't disturbing too :)
< 1402943857 521196 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: why would you be late to an exam anyway
< 1402943889 876042 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :commuter rail issues or whatever
< 1402943934 579950 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure, you usually have a bit of margin, but sometimes there are major traffic issues
< 1402943949 70737 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that counts as acts of god
< 1402943950 71952 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :oversleeping
< 1402943954 471557 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :best reason
< 1402943974 382211 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're pretty fucked if god acts to your misfortune
< 1402943999 603871 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're on holidays and your plane crashes
< 1402944015 45084 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it will be cut from your holiday days
< 1402944022 294930 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from your salary too
< 1402944025 275322 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're an atheist, can you still make an acts of god argument?
< 1402944030 989001 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know
< 1402944037 787661 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's what leo.org listed as "hoeher Gewalt"
< 1402944042 794732 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :we just call it "hoehere Gewalt"
< 1402944057 841425 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :which word for word translates to higher power I guess
< 1402944321 962996 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: why not?
< 1402944336 839433 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: lying might be against the school code of conduct
< 1402944370 33513 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: but "act of god" is a term of art, you can't be blindly reductionist about language.
< 1402944382 162647 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: of course, it's a legal term in some jurisdictions
< 1402944395 32973 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what if I don't consider it art
< 1402944411 288439 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rolleyes
< 1402944423 93787 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like this definition (Scotland): "Circumstances which no human foresight can provide against, and of which human prudence is not bound to recognize the possibility, and which when they do occur, therefore, are calamities that do not involve the obligation of paying for the consequences that may result from them."
< 1402944458 858160 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbf, I'm sure there are quite some "acts of god" that have a human cause, just an indirect one.
< 1402944580 755667 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure.
< 1402944619 162428 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has something to do with the length of a chain of causality, I think
< 1402944710 490115 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I get stuck on the way to work because the police is blocking streets after a bank robbery that doesn't make the bank robbers agents of god (though they may well think of themselves that way)
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< 1402944748 186872 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but from my perspective there's nothing I could've done to foresee and guard against such circumstances.
< 1402944831 149177 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah.
< 1402944842 281105 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is other people.
< 1402945008 383764 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1402945427 88181 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :well
< 1402945432 384072 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: so's when you get snowed in
< 1402945439 568278 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :except snowed in doesn't count as act of god
< 1402945480 729488 :Bike!~Glossina@71-214-90-148.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402945660 380611 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have gone by train!
< 1402945664 635733 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bank robbery
< 1402945665 460327 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I ask robbery?
< 1402945683 773905 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@bank robbery HOW MUCH DID YOU STEAL
< 1402945684 148205 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted.
< 1402945689 644688 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok...?
< 1402945692 442907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth is bank
< 1402945702 406665 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :editing distance 2 from "ask"
< 1402945731 380242 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, the bot told you that much: <lambdabot> What should I ask robbery?
< 1402945737 129813 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-lewd
< 1402945737 980644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1402945745 506864 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ask mroman
< 1402945745 948221 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :What should I ask mroman?
< 1402945771 856085 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@massages-lewd
< 1402945772 691911 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help bank
< 1402945772 692070 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
< 1402945772 692162 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1402945785 258819 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ Too bad that’s three.
< 1402945894 953892 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@delp
< 1402945895 305925 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
< 1402945900 814531 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-told
< 1402945901 134317 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1402945909 51393 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elph
< 1402945909 448644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
< 1402945928 362661 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-092-072-175-242.pools.arcor-ip.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :@elf
< 1402945930 253461 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see why somebody implemented that but ok.
< 1402945930 253626 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: tell pl help bf
< 1402945939 7204 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@helpmei'monfire
< 1402945939 503526 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1402945951 421019 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ralph
< 1402945951 928065 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
< 1402945952 238745 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :@helpme I'm on fire
< 1402945952 238923 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :help <command>. Ask for help for <command>. Try 'list' for all commands
< 1402945952 793360 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds
< 1402946026 69537 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha, @messages-lewd is good
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< 1402947957 781758 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-laut
< 1402947958 183064 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1402947979 115845 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages-luut
< 1402947979 457021 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have any messages
< 1402947984 39815 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :@noochrichte-luut
< 1402947984 493874 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list
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< 1402954814 212849 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://djm.cc/bignum-results.txt
< 1402954817 178262 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is brilliant
< 1402954859 37879 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pete's determined
< 1402954882 258871 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :he came close, too
< 1402954904 746866 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :F[omega**omega] :|
< 1402955032 611120 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :and loader just got 'very big'
< 1402955089 857634 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson learned, the busy beaver for 512 chars of C is 'very big'
< 1402955202 726069 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha pete-9.c is great
< 1402955226 510498 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qntm.org/files/trollpi/piequals4.png
< 1402955245 699347 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :loader.c is also great but i have no idea how to understand hte actual code
< 1402955328 993955 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt i could after gcc -E in all honesty.
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< 1402956013 351421 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can tell it was written before wikipedia because he refers you to an actual book for the definition of grassman sequences
< 1402956023 452355 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :*goodstein
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< 1402956656 157224 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :"big", "very big"
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< 1402956803 148247 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :loader also did give the code he used to generate loader.c: http://djm.cc/ralph-loader.tar
< 1402956805 361501 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I was written before Wikipedia
< 1402956812 454544 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: mrhelloman. why the confidential informant?
< 1402956952 747960 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my soap joins the flood of brands that the manufacturers insist on changing into something i don't like :(
< 1402956975 571722 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1402957014 491929 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :are Norwegian brands particularly known to be prone to sudden detrimental changes?
< 1402957039 851928 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :they made a test showing most prefer the new smell, but i _hate_ fruity smell in soaps :(
< 1402957052 520863 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :boily: i dunno
< 1402957096 77633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose windows 8 counts as a non-norwegian example.
< 1402957131 520460 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BitCoin news: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2364000/bitcoin-price-dips-as-backers-fear-mining-monopoly.html
< 1402957135 879888 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bitcoin
< 1402957145 257617 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i haven't checked bitcoin in a while
< 1402957151 34412 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :mining monopoly? interesting.
< 1402957172 125776 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, the thing that wasn't supposed to realistically happen happened
< 1402957173 466754 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I dunno. I like grapefruit-scented soap.
< 1402957194 560139 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :loader.c is truly amazing
< 1402957206 576264 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why am I looking at Golang?
< 1402957218 934090 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might not have Node.js's callback hell, but it has node.js's error hell
< 1402957225 770889 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :you shouldn't be! you should be looking at loader.c
< 1402957263 44220 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: look at rust! rust is good!
< 1402957271 765578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust isn't 1.0 yet
< 1402957275 663278 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what.
< 1402957277 883233 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :512 characters excluding witespace is plenty to generate huge number
< 1402957282 489238 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :numbers*
< 1402957313 385522 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anyone apart from me for whom the first programming language they learnt was esoteric?
< 1402957332 97649 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: probably hth
< 1402957346 26167 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :thal
< 1402957349 666291 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think mIRC scripting almost counts
< 1402957400 116466 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taneb: what was your first language?
< 1402957412 879941 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piet
< 1402957447 660901 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you wrote piet programs without knowing any programming language beforehand?
< 1402957451 598222 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty impressvie
< 1402957474 350308 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learnt on pascal so
< 1402957487 953999 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :GW-BASIC!
< 1402957919 28820 :impomatic!~digital_w@84.93.80.151 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION occasionally uses GWBASIC because I'm too lazy to rewrite my old programs...
< 1402958239 355246 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first language was C
< 1402958404 879297 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :my first language was BASIC, learned from a book without a computer
< 1402958634 721245 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learned from the internet
< 1402958684 917867 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeFull, without a computer? Amazing!
< 1402958750 71451 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :started with minuteman II control systems, as god intended
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< 1402958988 481402 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: loader.c is nice, or rather, its readable version.
< 1402959141 231263 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a form of callback hell in languages that aren't JS: In Ruby and Scheme... things like passing in a closure to a function that opens a file and closes the file when the closure is done
< 1402959178 809170 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can find a copy of that FLO83 article
< 1402959206 180878 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the node.js community manages to handle the normal callback hell sanely (especially at 0.12), maybe they could also handle this other callback hell?
< 1402959216 668462 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :acm journal? i don't see why not
< 1402959239 218958 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Racket is perfectly capable of abusing continuations to do it, but I don't think it's idiomatic
< 1402959247 74183 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=322370 no abstract, pah
< 1402959281 48190 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya, university has access
< 1402959373 301114 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what changed in 0.12?
< 1402959389 957677 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :*will change
< 1402959403 398119 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Node.JS will support ES6 -- including generators
< 1402959405 235400 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been paying attention to node for a while
< 1402959407 94518 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1402959407 281540 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bicyclidine: here's an abstract (with some encoding issues): http://libra.msra.cn/Publication/787214/the-expressiveness-of-simple-and-second-order-type-structures
< 1402959443 968348 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat, I hope that includes destructuring assignments and fat-arrow functions
< 1402959472 681951 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason i am most used to encoding problems in papers from old ieee and acm papers
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< 1402959497 228679 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: fat arrows, as in coffeescript?
< 1402959529 171239 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :They behave similarly, yes
< 1402959557 276681 :FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly PRIVMSG #esoteric :though not exactly the same--ES6's fat-arrow functions can't be used as constructors IIRC
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< 1402959655 107837 :Bicyclidine!~Glossina@69.166.35.233 PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, and also archive scans, but that's obvious
< 1402960436 827922 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2df0c.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/delta-landing-joke_n_5499323.html
< 1402960575 482110 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. firefox crashed. must be a sign.
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