< 1406764832 95596 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1406765206 101929 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de QUIT :Quit: Terminated < 1406765220 874126 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1406765990 390051 :imp9!~imp9@224-95.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406766099 294809 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome back < 1406766402 467979 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone for some ridiculous feature abuse? < 1406766443 125822 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone NOT for some ridiculous feature abuse!?@ < 1406766451 500884 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :( let foo = "bar" in getNamedVar "foo" < 1406766451 690300 :idris-bot!~ircslave@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :04"bar" : 12String < 1406766474 543291 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's very... perl? weird < 1406766539 541593 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses a reflected tactic to look for the right thing in the environment. Only statically-known variable name strings will work. < 1406766561 576002 :imp9!~imp9@224-95.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1406766592 161846 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Talk:Lambda: the Gathering14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40228&oldid=40224 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+50) 10unsigned < 1406766617 934645 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's horrifying < 1406766664 811589 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took me a day to get it working, too. < 1406766820 726619 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it doesn’t actually break anything, all it does in the end is have the compiler fill in the actual variable in question. < 1406766880 284334 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1406767663 582154 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1406767884 346953 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1406767909 646572 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so NICK :Guest17686 > 1406768139 662710 JOIN :#esoteric > 1406768143 785344 JOIN :#esoteric > 1406768144 299902 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406768147 854392 :glogbot!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1406769629 122356 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : (my _last_ answer was of course something trivial which just popped up and i couldn't resist because it would put me over 2000) <-- of _course_ this had to ironically end up as my most upvoted SO answer so far... < 1406769679 167983 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which one? < 1406769760 104439 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newtype Maybe a one < 1406769773 545080 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406769799 854339 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1406769819 541993 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, that one < 1406769853 62442 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the one you thought was so unclear i shouldn't have answered it? < 1406769888 296529 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never said you shouldn't have answered it < 1406769907 85712 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good *puts swatter back down* < 1406769923 203706 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you get a balloon to swat me with? < 1406769959 856900 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1406770053 854971 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406770919 197298 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so JOIN :#esoteric < 1406770974 727945 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a Gregor in the house. i believe he has a message. < 1406774003 561931 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah, think soon i'll have to update my ubuntu LTS < 1406774044 777785 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know mormon were linux based < 1406774047 50745 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1406774062 344363 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :puns are so bad when you misread a letter < 1406774070 197550 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :also leave one out < 1406774095 855915 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter tahg saints? < 1406774220 144709 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know minecraft had saints either < 1406774370 125972 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did minecraft come from? < 1406774423 24641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :just google tahg hth < 1406774447 532780 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :minecraft came from hell < 1406774636 944050 :newsham!~chat@udp217044uds.hawaiiantel.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws70oI3yMBc < 1406775270 838399 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1406775317 589659 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406775335 183594 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1406776787 674666 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1406778000 448296 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, DotA vs League of Legends is reminding me a bit of NetHack vs some other roguelikes (Crawl and Brogue), in that the former supposedly tends to require more knowledge not immediately present in the UI for effective play < 1406778065 899122 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying in dota you can determine the nature of a ring by dropping it down a sink. < 1406778095 179421 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: is that a primitive form of caller id < 1406778105 377331 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that's a pun i'm not getting it < 1406778128 146646 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, anyone here play dorfs? i am, swear to god, having trouble understanding how to navigate the help menu < 1406778135 300066 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nature of a ring" [heh heh heh] < 1406778283 837956 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: sounds Fun < 1406779176 762313 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: Night < 1406780114 217057 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: I like reading about dorfs < 1406780449 858256 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1406783038 757622 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:1183:1ffe:1a72:6389 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406783135 881321 :not^v!~notnot^v@2601:4:4500:e15:1183:1ffe:1a72:6389 QUIT :Client Quit < 1406783491 656963 :drdanmaku!uid17782@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-joktnrcyarboonww QUIT :Quit: Connection closed for inactivity < 1406784393 119103 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: Might < 1406786395 390556 :skarn!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1406787072 209641 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1406789117 664596 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1406789252 387884 :aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54faa3-2.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1406790017 733725 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not possible to have a NUL-terminated UTF-32 string, is it? < 1406790044 174397 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I guess codepoint 0 could terminate. Just NULL-terminated wouldn't work < 1406791456 951477 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could terminate a big-endian UTF-32 string with a single byte, if you liked. < 1406791492 992546 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a 0, but e.g. ff, since the code points only go up to 0x0010ffff. < 1406791497 299903 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be kind of hacky, though. < 1406791574 802609 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, codepoint 0 as terminator would be natural < 1406791590 74754 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's usually better to use an explicit length (or end pointer) < 1406791602 486722 :b_jonas!~x@russell2.math.bme.hu PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes with fewer bugs and usually easier code these days < 1406791628 246509 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha sort of data structures do word processors use? What about many years ago (e.g. what did Word 1.0 use)? < 1406792146 188222 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ropes are not uncommon in editors, or so I've heard. < 1406792175 12760 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also gotten the vague impression that whatever's under the hood in LibreOffice is something quite paragraph-oriented. < 1406793214 440561 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for a good time terminate it with a single byte and put that byte right at the end of a page < 1406795056 861165 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1406795700 430783 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :sikhin < 1406795762 207627 :sikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1406796121 303125 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406796142 175268 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.hsi14.unitymediagroup.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1406796173 408062 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Why do you have three bytes of padding at the start of your memory block?" "So that I could put the terminating byte right at the end of a page." < 1406798511 337146 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.hsi14.unitymediagroup.de QUIT :Quit: Ze Cat now leaves... < 1406800343 929570 :J_Arcane!~j_arcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de < 1406800804 589425 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1406800924 8897 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406800983 857822 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406800984 256683 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406801992 781214 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1406802108 355060 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Excess Flood < 1406802126 76485 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406802239 361149 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406802328 324840 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1406802778 736508 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ropes"? < 1406802828 862011 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1406802830 629094 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :trees < 1406802831 806672 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1406802853 771047 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :“"Ropes"?”? < 1406803337 425587 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :mroman: the string type? < 1406803541 303775 :ZuuTorvalds!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :ZuuJobs < 1406804462 706701 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1406804466 610304 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :the tree type < 1406804470 161337 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a tree < 1406804472 359135 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :for strings < 1406804474 709935 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's still a tree < 1406804809 199100 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is tempted to mine CthulhuCoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294383.0 < 1406804901 867059 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1406804908 532732 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​02catcombcoin 06selfcoin 13peracoin 04alboxybeatnikcoin 07mcnecoin 08dislacoin 09negrcoin 02ctcoin 06musivecoin 13braincoin 04ztendidncoin 07perfectorcoin 08d1ffcoin 09poetercecoin 02beuvecoin 06inspooncoin 13befortlecoin 04kmancoin 071932coin 08ortecoin < 1406804917 603708 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the command still exists! < 1406804966 340583 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: CYCLOPEAN CHICKEN < 1406805303 817123 :ion!ion@heh.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1406805808 866629 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1406806073 464570 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`analog < 1406806074 18036 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​/home/hackbot/hackbot.hg/multibot_cmds/lib/limits: line 5: exec: analog: not found < 1406806077 52692 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`analogy < 1406806081 72390 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :part is to thia as squef is to hamplique < 1406806085 374607 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :only took me about half an hour to get it working :D < 1406806610 505325 :imp9!~imp9@141-136-231-202.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406807843 471792 :ZuuJobs!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu NICK :Zuu < 1406808526 840735 :imp9!~imp9@141-136-231-202.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1406808767 72904 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406809149 859022 :imp9!~imp9@141-136-231-202.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406809998 488022 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1406810222 77116 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406810372 916881 :imp_9!~imp9@234-19.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406810408 633429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like some advice! < 1406810443 234547 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a function doesn't pass the fairbairn threshold but the implementation is not obvious, what should I do < 1406810481 94437 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hang on, I'm only using this function once < 1406810532 489894 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that's pretty firmly on the "remove" side of things < 1406810553 854408 :imp9!~imp9@141-136-231-202.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406810697 267280 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406810873 509856 :imp_9!~imp9@234-19.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1406810880 705840 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1406810889 861534 :imp9!~imp9@234-19.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406811342 47236 :imp9!~imp9@234-19.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1406811469 907996 :Patashu!Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1406812158 119739 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Quit: Tritonio < 1406812505 930612 :Gregor!dlopen@libdl.so QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1406812509 897418 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406812510 239777 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406812510 439041 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1406812517 829527 :ion!ion@heh.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1406812518 44993 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1406812518 244375 :realzies!~pinky@unaffiliated/realazthat QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds 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1406815903 509790 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:TieSoul14]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40229&oldid=40163 5* 03TieSoul 5* (+358) 10List of languages I've implemented < 1406816550 714672 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1406816720 281966 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1406816751 221820 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1406817145 368068 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406817331 292014 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello from the As-sembly. < 1406817556 268076 :ion!ion@heh.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ass-embly < 1406817574 900186 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1406817617 411716 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asse-mbly. < 1406818029 853871 :J_Arcane!~j_arcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1406818097 147410 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1406818190 637527 :klotztest!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406818229 580618 :klotztest!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406818237 238447 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406818290 98624 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406818298 313265 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406818900 969306 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`analogy < 1406818904 760951 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :eight is to upgn as vam is to edney < 1406818917 101959 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who made that dictionary? < 1406818957 737044 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did hth < 1406818985 561053 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hoover did `words. < 1406819001 170438 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant words < 1406819002 656962 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :upgn? < 1406819028 891852 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's statistical models for you. < 1406819043 349452 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's trigrams. < 1406819086 76126 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :'pgn' sounds slightly unlikely, but sometimes the source dicts have abbrevs too. < 1406819141 337748 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --help < 1406819142 38456 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: words [-dhNo] [DATASETS...] [NUMBER_OF_WORDS] \ \ options: \ -l, --list list valid datasets \ -d, --debug debugging output \ -N, --dont-normalize don't normalize frequencies when combining \ multiple Markov models; this has the effect \ of making larger dataset < 1406819161 85597 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :from google, "fairbairn threshold" seems like a haskell/agda community thing < 1406819187 984064 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words -l < 1406819189 184349 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :valid datasets: --eng-1M --eng-all --eng-fiction --eng-gb --eng-us --french --german --hebrew --russian --spanish --irish --german-medical --bulgarian --catalan --swedish --brazilian --canadian-english-insane --manx --italian --ogerman --portuguese --polish --gaelic --finnish --norwegian --esolangs \ default: --eng-1M < 1406819196 77907 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that was in response to Taneb in the logs < 1406819292 683429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's "if a name of a function is about as long as its definition, ask yourself is it really worth having a name?" roughly < 1406819301 444441 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ask edwardk < 1406819312 738862 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did get the gist of the definition < 1406819322 560913 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just didn't seem like a very widespread term < 1406819323 498182 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1406819335 30049 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fairbairn < 1406819339 288429 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :edwardk, where does the Fairbain threshold come from? < 1406819343 744744 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who was Fairbairn? < 1406819349 405028 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was an early discussion on the libraries mailing list < 1406819356 189261 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :about naming a simple composition < 1406819369 882819 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he pointed out that it was better to have smaller combinators that folks could put together < 1406819375 825153 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :than to name all the pairs of combinators < 1406819380 698495 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then, does "fairbairn threshold" cross the fairbairn threshold? < 1406819391 612575 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the latter is a less compositional vocabulary and it drives users to look up the solution in the dictionary < 1406819400 590128 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing you to grow the dictionary further < 1406819438 912547 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand if you have simple compositional higher order functions then you get units of highly reusable functionality and don't cram the namespace full of trivial compositions < 1406819470 273340 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :anywyas jon fairbairn has been around in the haskell community a long time, maybe 15 years or so, but he's kinda idle these days < 1406819498 752152 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1406819504 544641 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's responsible for killing equating, basically. < 1406819510 974395 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use his threshold as a sort of litmus test to prevent core library explosion < 1406819525 860323 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i rather think of it as he's responsible for driving the creation of on < 1406819534 304627 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1406819541 735619 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have been misusing the threshold slightly < 1406819551 776190 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm personally okay with the addition of equating if only because it crosses another threshold < 1406819563 122750 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point at which telling people no is taking more time than just adding the fucking thing < 1406819576 427482 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been calling that the co-"Fairbairn" threshold ;) < 1406819597 684279 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the whole point of the former was to save people time, then there is a point at which we're in net productivity loss the other way too ;) < 1406819621 443750 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1406819649 831718 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to re-evaluate my stance on something when it gets reinvented over and over every few months by different people < 1406819666 545075 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :because obviously there is something there -- a need we arent satisfying < 1406819677 59913 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not at a local optimum, something wants to pull us along a gradient < 1406819757 272909 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where did “co-” come from in the first place? < 1406819776 102518 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens does not obey the afirbairn threshold :) < 1406819785 849550 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I can't type. < 1406819793 760922 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to mention lens < 1406819815 780474 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be fair, it does mostly obey it, it's just that it has to macro-expand the definition of the compositional language that is its operators. < 1406819822 326484 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :lens is all about building a compositional vocabulary -- it just chose a bigger grain size < 1406819840 103064 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :and morphology has structure to it < 1406819844 77008 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, most of the operators are my fault < 1406819848 349771 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way that most of these one off things don't < 1406819861 808294 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i blame taneb for everything < 1406819864 813149 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm totally innocent < 1406819866 265694 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I wanted <<+~ for a thing and I got slightly carried away < 1406819874 494117 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :is morphology what we're calling optics now? < 1406819875 820039 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the other libraries have some of that too, like _ M A < 1406819911 445036 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: nah, just meaning the structure inside the name of a thing. the fact that our naming conventions agglutinate like prefixes and suffixes, etc. < 1406819916 674060 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t preview < 1406819917 864860 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1406819918 202056 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader s m => Getting (First a) s a -> m (Maybe a) < 1406819920 710586 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t view . pre < 1406819922 87574 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :MonadReader s m => Getting (First a) s a -> m (Maybe a) < 1406819924 216219 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, morphology kinda works as a name for optics. < 1406819930 395236 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta. < 1406819956 932469 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been spending a lot of time with lenses in a more general categorical setting < 1406819969 132177 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :isos on natural transformations are pretty awesome < 1406819979 343387 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :emember all the quantified lens stuff we couldn't say? < 1406819987 394052 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :bam, easy. < 1406819991 252378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kinda stuff? < 1406820010 223976 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :take plated, now go write something that walks a syntax tree and takes statements to statements, expressions to expressions < 1406820022 479969 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk PRIVMSG #esoteric :or which preserves types < 1406820033 848699 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's not and say I did :) < 1406820311 668558 :TieSoul_!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406820501 151784 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1406821174 336146 :Tritonio!~Thunderbi@212.251.54.186 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1406821873 341172 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406822075 74695 :TieSoul_!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1406822438 798111 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1406822591 275760 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1406822641 849444 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1406823289 682796 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406823538 916349 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait. so words doesn't use a dictionary? < 1406823549 656419 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --eng-1m < 1406823551 130179 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :spithwachardli < 1406823629 961850 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would make sense to use a language model kind of how fungot does right? < 1406823630 470305 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: that's nice. you mean to simply pass the arguments to the call to call/ cc isn't a time machine module that returns the list? < 1406823700 679834 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be much easier for german < 1406823705 86960 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :just give a base dictionary < 1406823716 873261 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then mix words together to construct compound words < 1406823722 450234 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does exactly what fungot does. < 1406823722 649788 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's what i used < 1406823736 738535 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except in characters and not words. < 1406823742 330628 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flaschenhundsammelbeckenreinigungsfachmann < 1406823760 661804 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some minor other differences. < 1406823804 736383 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :bottle dog collector tub cleaning specialist < 1406824361 457824 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1406825162 41690 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey guys < 1406825249 160066 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dutch also does that. Autobandenwieldopjesverzamelaarsbeurskaartjes is car tyre valve collectors' exchange tickets. < 1406825604 793650 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finnish, unsurprisingly. < 1406825636 512374 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though also with inflection, up to some degree. < 1406827175 998107 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1406827626 772565 :TodPunk!~Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1406827773 964511 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words < 1406827775 632600 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :pritonio < 1406827781 254775 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words 10 < 1406827782 685328 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :usur atlan pxcelief oling eductor prainer moniah cochoppa villa poul < 1406827804 515926 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat words < 1406827804 754269 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat: words: No such file or directory < 1406827807 859334 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/words < 1406827808 780513 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​#!/usr/bin/perl \ use strict; use warnings; \ use v5.10; \ use open qw( :encoding(UTF-8) :std); \ use File::Basename 'dirname'; \ use Storable 'retrieve'; \ use List::Util qw(sum min); \ use Getopt::Long qw(:config gnu_getopt); \ BEGIN { \ eval { \ require Math::Random::MT::Perl; Math::Random::MT::Perl->import('rand'); \ }; \ #wa < 1406827816 495377 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`paste bin/words < 1406827817 284678 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/file/tip/bin/words < 1406827823 156924 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it have python? < 1406827831 672629 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1406827833 640813 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`python --version < 1406827834 263455 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python 2.7.3 < 1406827837 380907 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you add such large files? < 1406827844 408007 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1406827844 727775 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1406827856 397827 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1406827858 181408 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1406827860 453479 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1406827966 478293 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The `fetch has been occasionally broken. < 1406828003 541588 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know about current state. < 1406828090 548948 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406828133 497364 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406828147 935885 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406828189 628091 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406828208 874697 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german < 1406828210 397760 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yorken < 1406828215 374357 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 10 < 1406828216 645327 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ausgesches quotenbetrieb großes vivo ungspolitätisch tantermorperan rechnungsplani öylen ficingabe frei < 1406828257 500831 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1406828287 236769 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german 10 < 1406828288 508592 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hanienspekt extaufklärung vötigesundspitz hangendestielte reierudenkorreprac capitzers portelleticschwulfarbeschutz schenkvorrieder unbedürfnisinummis dnl < 1406828299 126973 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406828321 55671 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406828349 793172 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run words --german --finnish 10 # one of its best features < 1406828351 216747 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :antabunktiv reuzstr geburyholh rach hefessalle sämmänä geograahekser sachtetesi terik ethalustel < 1406828448 558652 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1406828597 956553 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406828601 738780 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`words --german-medical 10 < 1406828602 620532 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :bewegungen adrezifisch glycetamin hyperidenomenfall pioidtumphase resierteropium expresensitiere anspuffiziös hyperationen explageburs < 1406828636 952897 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neat. < 1406828826 475624 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1406828840 736980 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls share/WordData < 1406828841 392116 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brazilian \ Bulgarian \ CanadianEnglishInsane \ Catalan \ Eng1M \ EngAll \ EngFiction \ EngGb \ EngUs \ Esolangs \ Finnish \ French \ Gaelic \ German \ GermanMedical \ Hebrew \ Irish \ Italian \ Manx \ Norwegian \ Ogerman \ Polish \ Portuguese \ Russian \ Spanish \ Swedish < 1406829034 368963 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't just chain german nouns though < 1406829046 947211 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the -s- that sometimes must be squished in < 1406829049 563944 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and case < 1406829056 216210 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the -s- is regional < 1406829242 405453 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also -n-. < 1406829447 302158 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem JOIN :#esoteric < 1406829523 381957 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungs%C3%BCberwachungsaufgaben%C3%BCbertragungsgesetz < 1406829525 72344 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1406830006 263711 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the -n-? < 1406830022 419608 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1406830027 56592 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :aufgaben < 1406830066 297192 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess these are actually just case endings < 1406830067 276854 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that’s strictly a plural -n. < 1406830070 300667 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :-s is genitive < 1406830074 534171 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -n is plural < 1406830085 185987 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verrechnung-s-steuer < 1406830102 543464 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :In “Sonnenstrahl” however, the -n is historical genitive IIRC. < 1406830104 804967 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the steuer of the verrechnung < 1406830121 518047 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Verrechnungs Steuer" really means the Steuer of the Verrechnung < 1406830162 797634 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, “Verrechnung” is its own genitive form, nowadays anyway. < 1406830173 621726 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? < 1406830198 575954 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Des Verrechnung Steuer sounds weird < 1406830232 831388 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“der Verrechnung” – -ung nouns are feminine. < 1406830254 914729 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. yeah < 1406830284 113598 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :genitive for feminine nouns sounds weird < 1406830286 154381 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. < 1406830288 669056 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Des Mannes Koffer < 1406830293 155160 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Der Frau Koffer <- ?? < 1406830307 477054 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :help i'm trying to find the original source of the comic graph of "physics knowledge vs. how much sense the universe makes". i'm pretty sure it's SMBC, or if not that, then xkcd, but I can't find it < 1406830314 873577 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the genitive that way is rare in the first place. < 1406830324 771213 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for names. < 1406830362 944490 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was born without a genitive :) < 1406830379 512823 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(swiss dialects generally lack genitive) < 1406830407 124768 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Der Koffer der Frau is a perfect sentence though < 1406830413 816826 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :They use the dative instead, no? < 1406830426 785341 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :in swiss german you'd say "Der Koffer von der Frau" < 1406830489 902060 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which means you cant answer to question like "Welches Auto" with just "Papas" < 1406830500 869295 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to say "dem Papa seines" < 1406830523 956803 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. Dative. < 1406830538 856650 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "em papi siis" to put it into real swiss german ;) < 1406830578 14981 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :german is lacking a neutral "unbestimmter Artikel" though < 1406830588 716862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :ein/eine is all you guys have ;) < 1406830597 578284 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :(officially) < 1406830633 299891 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've heard your definition of "obwohl" is broken, too. < 1406830642 55054 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :“indefinite article” is the English term. < 1406830671 536079 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what besides ein/eine/ein would we have? And what would you say “obwohl” means? < 1406830678 47940 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Obwohl ich zur Bank ging, war sie geschlossen." < 1406830684 58572 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never. < 1406830705 192193 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :somebody said, this wouldn't imply that the speaker expects the bank to open just for him < 1406830717 826279 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :That’s what it sounds like to me. < 1406830755 909268 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me it's sounds like the speaker expects the bank to open for him < 1406830757 55102 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1406830760 728577 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1406830764 380270 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ich ging zur Bank, obwohl sie geschlossen war" < 1406830770 879882 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :is - to him - the same thing < 1406830782 407906 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1406830784 25779 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me it implies that you knew that it was closed < 1406830788 404862 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you chose to go anyway < 1406830801 733725 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1406830921 955062 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-088-078-156-068.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I don’t know about your informant, but I would consider the first example to imply that the speaker expects the bank to be open just because he went there. < 1406831761 863010 :imp9!~imp9@170-62.dsl.iskon.hr JOIN :#esoteric < 1406832250 839103 :mroman!~roman2@fmnssun.ibone.ch PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I told him :) < 1406832696 244245 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-197-32.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406833027 533689 :Vorpal!~Vorpal@unaffiliated/vorpal PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... My phone randomly rebooted and then went into a boot loop (in the boot loader, didn't even get to the kernel logo). Had to remove the battery and put it back in to fix that. How strange < 1406833061 216699 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1406833355 365979 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1406833426 523534 :Sprocklem!~sprocklem@unaffiliated/sprocklem QUIT :Quit: g2g < 1406833475 320052 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems more likely that the speaker has trouble with the subtleties of the German language. < 1406833554 736498 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(This was my first reaction, "this sounds off, what is the intended meaning likely to be?") < 1406835462 582508 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1406835482 511936 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what, I'm going to make a stack-based arbitrary-dimension language, because there seems to be a lack of that (with the exception of BeQunge) < 1406835499 7400 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I just really enjoy multi-dimensional languages < 1406835851 150185 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an encoding problem < 1406835866 100607 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1406835919 6082 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy enough to do computation in many dimensions < 1406835929 40158 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :notation < 1406835930 239095 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1406835949 972272 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will be done by putting the 2,3,4,5...-dimensional coordinates before the line < 1406835953 381383 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Dimensifuck < 1406836168 975274 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the time-honored Assembly tradition, nothing is working right here. < 1406836268 27503 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1406836310 299339 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/show/tcsF1mXcInau1cr5ftKZ/ < what I'm planning for the language. Feedback? < 1406836517 407353 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I forgot, new lines are denoted by ascii character 10 < 1406836521 34382 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406836846 589801 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand < 1406837037 315913 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :What don't you understand? < 1406837189 907259 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :how it works < 1406837222 111537 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it doesn't < 1406837231 543164 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever "it" is. < 1406837378 500117 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you mean the dimension thing? < 1406837384 386463 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1406837385 653637 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​04wabetcoin 07jrowncoin 08aracketlancoin 09feracoin 02brbcoin 06smdcoin 13bubcoin 04bfjousiccoin 07devebantumbraidicoin 08producoin 09cicsends.jscoin 02gorycoin 06kayarcoin 13mkbcoin 04indecoin 07sumercoin 08grotorcoin 09minuongshawcoin 02self-brokeryedumberckcoin 06bitcoin < 1406837420 241134 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want a 3-dimensional program, and the first line is on 3D coordinate 1, you can do < 1406837427 411022 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1 (program) < 1406837468 772463 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1406837471 877562 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :0,1 (line) < 1406837496 396194 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then when you make another line, it will be on coords 1,1 if you don't specify anything < 1406837503 663469 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've described a syntax, but what are the semantics? < 1406837512 280229 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/show/tcsF1mXcInau1cr5ftKZ/ < 1406837518 886779 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1406837524 795942 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I've read < 1406837532 816791 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I clearly don't know what semantics means < 1406837562 79838 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens when the program is executed? < 1406837590 183866 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I haven't gotten that far yet < 1406837610 903727 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there'll an IP that moves along with a delta < 1406837638 876128 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there'll be instructions that the IP executes, and they can change the delta to any multi-dimensional vector < 1406837655 539620 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's about as far as I've got < 1406837656 461918 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1406837705 571512 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as long as that multi-dimensional vector fits within the amount of dimensions of the program < 1406837708 401948 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1406837792 929830 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406837816 66374 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you said anything after my last message I didn't see it :P < 1406837853 640085 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul-mobile: you could check the logs, but nothing was said in the meantime < 1406837868 61652 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1406837994 760567 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really see the benefit of all those dimensions < 1406838037 898378 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see the benefit of brainfuck < 1406838039 145833 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can avoid intersection of code lines with only 3 dimensions < 1406838053 789543 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul-mobile: to create the smallest compiler possible < 1406838080 573057 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an experiment and a programming exercise for me. < 1406838159 956817 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i'll give you five bfjousicoin if you succeed < 1406838183 661611 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much dogecoin is that worth? < 1406838237 564700 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :~0 < 1406838241 83976 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1406838243 394620 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice < 1406838267 806943 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :`coins < 1406838269 592091 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​08razycoin 09malcoin 02belcoin 06colliiecoin 13ted!coin 04pointercacoin 07bestfrocercoin 08cloorthcoin 09l00coin 02phoniccoin 06.yacuaticoin 13spilecoin 04udacoin 07disilacoin 08uncitocoin 09dracoin 02capuicoin 06moustcoin 13oischemcoin 04audinava2coin < 1406838286 843894 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :would you prefer some ted!coin? < 1406838299 256751 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "%u" $((~0)) < 1406838300 248293 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :18446744073709551615 < 1406838320 716266 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol < 1406838335 391335 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`` printf "%d" $((~0)) # alas... < 1406838335 984802 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​-1 < 1406838358 381264 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather have some colliiecoin. < 1406838390 769247 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggested "coercoin" a while ago but nobody reacted. < 1406838787 514178 :myname!~myname@84.200.43.57 PRIVMSG #esoteric :inrecommend unciteocoin for wikipedia sponsoring < 1406839199 896612 :imp9!~imp9@170-62.dsl.iskon.hr QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1406839714 15569 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406840297 153392 :TieSoul-mobile!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406840432 179380 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1406841809 167904 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1406842537 958355 :FreeFull!~freefull@defocus/sausage-lover PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be fun if the coin thing was fed by markov chains and logs from here < 1406842611 285442 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: give us a coin, please < 1406842611 660856 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: it's a lot of pictures of fnord and strcat. so what is a ' cell tracker' for 9110, btw. < 1406842619 591726 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :argl. < 1406842630 980426 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the f-word! please! have mercy! < 1406843537 338001 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the f-word fungot < 1406843537 617113 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf: something stinks here. the lady replied... " but i had noticable slow down when conducting sisc upgrade test < 1406843791 631692 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406843837 843993 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally, I have success in the "get Windows to work again" direction < 1406843863 318899 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure if I'm going to go beyond this and actually attempt to install Visual Studio < 1406843864 550568 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might < 1406843881 284174 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406844034 229452 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1406844098 164120 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite the adventure, I might write a blog post about it < 1406844125 237753 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1406844210 741770 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1406844263 158325 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1406845072 775958 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric : help i'm trying to find the original source of the comic graph of "physics knowledge vs. how much sense the universe makes". i'm pretty sure it's SMBC, or if not that, then xkcd, but I can't find it <-- well googling your term doesn't give me any _copy_ of the graph either. < 1406845090 960953 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it a little hard to get started. < 1406845193 253150 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1406845215 11861 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were numerous problems < 1406845226 646782 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I only just resolved the last one (I was having the same problem as the last comment here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/6119d4c0-c3c0-40bf-9c3e-46b46915e738/service-not-start-access-denied-software-protection-event-logs?forum=winservergen) < 1406845275 557180 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Herman Bonnie, I don't know who you are, but thanks for the advice, and thanks for letting me know about procmon < 1406845294 335321 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :for several hours, I was thinking "if only I had a Windows version of strace, this would be easy to fix" < 1406845315 565243 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and procmon has a subset of strace's abilities, but fortunately, all the functionality I needed was in that subset < 1406845354 348702 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1406845512 106374 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1406845619 963325 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i can find a link to a copy hold on < 1406845659 976315 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :(however, note that this will not contain any references to the original source, so it will still be hard to get started) < 1406845701 918208 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1406845801 642577 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with some luck maybe it'll jog my memory < 1406845892 358948 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.quora.com/Religion/How-does-one-believe-in-so-called-God-when-Science-proves-everything < 1406845983 368367 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1406845987 403555 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you linking to that, also i can only read the first answer < 1406846051 332131 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's where the image is < 1406846055 871495 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a direct link < 1406846057 156590 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://qph.is.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-dec081428190913d063e3ef0a62eb191?convert_to_webp=true < 1406846140 786054 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that allowed me to google the first phrase properly < 1406846179 46635 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :giving this, which credits zach weiner (of smbc) https://twitter.com/sndrclsn/status/486748250071126016 < 1406846205 216040 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i was pretty sure that's where i saw it thanks < 1406846274 545372 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reddit link points me on to the right comic http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2376 (red button) < 1406846346 696509 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured it was a votey too < 1406846348 579008 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1406846466 212132 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :yw < 1406846589 295953 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn smbc site doesn't say what license these are published on the main front page :( < 1406846606 705109 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just says copyright < 1406846612 835695 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess there is no license < 1406846799 884381 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a shocking development, dmm's latest comic, planet of hats, isn't open licensed either < 1406846807 817521 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaict < 1406846843 996371 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm i guess darths & droids isn't either < 1406846861 703995 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all the others that i remember < 1406846878 716981 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'VE CORRUPTED HIM < 1406847820 839406 :MoALTz_!~no@user-31-174-197-32.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1406847982 838099 :MoALTz!~no@user-31-174-197-32.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1406848250 54704 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web keeps breaking here < 1406848255 631983 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet works, web breaks < 1406848258 150535 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1406848338 350309 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1406848380 437985 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is some sort of proxy involved? < 1406848387 975393 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :compare http and https, see if one is more reliable than the other < 1406848393 136059 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(either way round would be interesting) < 1406848469 995149 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know of a proxy < 1406848885 20516 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are approximately none < 1406848908 861035 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: the "compare http and https" was meant as an attempt to detect one < 1406848935 741077 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might also want to try looking at https certificates to see if they're being replaced < 1406849085 189447 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1406849147 74166 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny how my favorite puzzles from simon tatham's have changed after i got a new laptop - solely because the new touchpad is more awkward for frequent precision clicks < 1406849222 122125 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to do lightup for a _long_ time, but now i get annoyed after a couple tries. < 1406849259 881730 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the awkwardness might be because i'm now actually keeping it in my lap. < 1406849278 195217 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not all of it. < 1406849316 58633 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i've sort of changed to doing more of the puzzle that have good keyboard shortcuts. < 1406849320 355312 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+s < 1406850208 44528 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1406850214 812057 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07RAGE14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40230 5* 03173.240.241.83 5* (+21) 10Redirected page to [[RAGE!!!]] < 1406850887 295684 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric