< 1407283200 39168 :hogeyui__!~hogeyuiVP@vps.usamimi.biz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407283952 475839 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407284805 352051 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407285253 196171 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1407285652 843174 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1407285846 149293 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407285922 187571 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407286162 487099 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407287762 502511 :Phantom__Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1407288243 130739 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407289520 851098 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode  < 1407289523 660240 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+EF01 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ee bc 81 UTF-16BE: ef01 Decimal:  \  () \ Uppercase: U+EF01 \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (Left-to-Right) < 1407289551 159359 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1407289557 113604 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's this  business < 1407289581 559124 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, someone made it in stackoverflow by accident with a phone < 1407289642 27686 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's just private-use < 1407289649 772457 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does my thing render it < 1407289664 286871 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno, i'm seeing a square < 1407289686 311236 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :emoji, maybe? < 1407289689 367909 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm seeing it rendered, as some kinda diacritic < 1407289695 286864 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :==Bike < 1407289784 711809 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://s6.fi/ef01.png < 1407289891 745475 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :bit more bent for me, but basically the same. < 1407289896 859334 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < 1407289899 930366 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a forwardtick too < 1407289920 673572 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :using uh, i think this is dejavu sans mono. < 1407289921 94655 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing is longer than a forwardtick < 1407290046 582579 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :unassigned in CSUR... < 1407290060 747938 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION --> sleep
< 1407290085 653086 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :also unassigned in MUFI < 1407290132 840612 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode (  ) < 1407290133 829446 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :U+0028 LEFT PARENTHESIS \ UTF-8: 28 UTF-16BE: 0028 Decimal: ( \ ( \ Category: Ps (Punctuation, Open) \ Bidi: ON (Other Neutrals) \ Character is mirrored \ \ U+EF00 - No such unicode character name in database \ UTF-8: ee bc 80 UTF-16BE: ef00 Decimal:  \  () \ Uppercase: U+EF00 \ Category: Co (Other, Private Use) \ Bidi: L (L < 1407290259 278181 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://utf8-chartable.de/unicode-utf8-table.pl?start=61184&number=128 man i have all the way up to ef19, wtf < 1407290859 422131 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407290863 971140 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407291580 843720 :Tod-Autojoined!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net NICK :TodPunk < 1407292925 120102 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: even a pointer to a function and its arguments would presumably prevent the function and its arguments from being GCed... < 1407293083 756919 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the function itself is never GCed, as it's part of the program code... < 1407293123 760817 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its arguments, plus closure (what would that component be called? context?) < 1407293148 529088 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Special kind of argument? < 1407293262 9445 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there's a little confusion here, i'm not really talking pointers to haskell functions, but to the C or assembly code used underneath. < 1407293266 808878 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*machine < 1407293317 814047 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not just for haskell closures, but for arbitrary "enterable" boxes. < 1407293413 21496 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell closures of course are represented similarly, with the arguments to the C code dividing up into arguments for the closure itself and the "context" you mention < 1407293498 783866 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/Commentary/Rts/Storage/HeapObjects#Typesofobject < 1407293620 526917 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :"free variables" is the term used < 1407293775 819296 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407293816 85488 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ChanServ is so curteous. < 1407293864 149486 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :the message is a changeable channel setting, anyway < 1407293930 105596 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but most channel topics and the like are along the lines of "No pastes, use pasebin. Don't ask to ask, just ask. No LOL" < 1407294001 317541 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not big enough to need that kind much, i think < 1407294192 463044 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu JOIN :#esoteric < 1407294255 681637 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :thankfully nobody asks to ask since most people here are jerks < 1407294271 701374 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1407294411 143717 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree you don't need to ask to ask, just ask; if you do ask to ask you should ask the intended question at the same time, atleast!!! < 1407294424 743320 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i < 1407294441 862173 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 lives by that motto < 1407294481 923578 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not a big fan of any words that add little to no meaning to a sentance < 1407294486 353192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: should you what? < 1407294497 331784 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what i just did? < 1407294517 196115 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what did you just do? < 1407294523 261146 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :adu: 'm not fan'f meaningless words < 1407294571 252353 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: are you drunk < 1407294578 21486 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye < 1407294583 446051 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i figured < 1407294737 920002 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realized that using ARR #$FF helps me to save one cycle in the predicate decoding routine of this Famicom Z-machine implementation. < 1407294762 216604 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :you cannot use that instruction, it's piracy < 1407294798 984063 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :O no I can use it as much as I want to. < 1407294820 347576 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@arr shiver me timbers < 1407294821 10770 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahoy mateys < 1407294822 469006 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's okay arrrrjan. i laughed < 1407294862 428673 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bike: yey@ < 1407294928 178419 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaningless words are positively frabjous < 1407295796 649290 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407295805 75144 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407296681 338031 :adu!~ajr@c-69-243-56-49.hsd1.md.comcast.net QUIT :Quit: adu < 1407297042 861431 :copumpkin!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :wildebeest < 1407297045 974861 :wildebeest!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :hyena < 1407297051 140628 :hyena!~copumpkin@unaffiliated/copumpkin NICK :copumpkin < 1407297071 344548 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu QUIT :Quit: ThrashIRC v2.9 sic populo comunicated < 1407297760 772406 :nortti!nortti@nano.smar.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1407297804 526302 :nortti!~juhani@nano.smar.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1407298291 101229 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407298331 447078 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407298635 965444 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407298699 313521 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407300546 723403 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GML14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40255&oldid=40254 5* 03Rdebath 5* (-94) 10Waste of time; YoYo GML is just a gutted C++ clone. < 1407300775 232239 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1407300816 212305 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1407301386 775861 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1407302486 354786 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407305011 438771 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu JOIN :#esoteric < 1407305223 442397 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Portal 214]]4 M10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40256&oldid=40247 5* 03Oerjan 5* (+0) 10gmr, bullets < 1407306276 950392 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck bitwidth conversions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40257&oldid=31446 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+724) 10The old code wasn't working; this code works and is very easy to prove at COMPILE time < 1407306680 808604 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the Portal 2 comment was about a thing in the wiki. That makes more sense. < 1407306687 788014 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User:Darkgamma/SB214]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40258&oldid=40253 5* 03Darkgamma 5* (+1) 10/* Variables */ < 1407306794 119427 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407306805 157805 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407306955 525066 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Wiki descriptions of Portal{, 2} are lacking the <> instructions. < 1407306999 336705 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's very confusing the way the official description uses the word "the pointer" interchangeably for the data and code pointers. < 1407307145 595187 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Brainfuck bitwidth conversions14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40259&oldid=40257 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+2) 10Regularise the pointer positions so that the > and < needed for cell double/quad code are in the code part. < 1407307151 146659 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :going throuh the portal should switch those, surely < 1407307154 188499 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+g < 1407307498 619184 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what "goging" means. < 1407307816 159653 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL LEAN SOM ENGLISH < 1407308237 271516 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Quit: Leaving... < 1407308926 449798 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that bit0 of the flag register of 6502 corresponds to the carry flag, must be really useful. At least, it is useful to me. < 1407309280 116411 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an example of what I mean: http://sprunge.us/IHMF < 1407309311 970067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiously enough, the carry flag is also bit 0 on the Z80 and the x86. Not that I've ever taken advantage of it. < 1407309346 40382 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it like that for the purpose of taking advantage of it? < 1407309356 329079 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is there a different reason? < 1407309731 376377 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. But it does make some sort of sense that you might want to get a 1 or 0 based on the carry flag. < 1407309750 781002 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Though in x86 these days you could "setc al" no matter which bit it was.) < 1407309798 612671 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1407309820 59810 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1407310367 38500 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am writing it in a 6502 code so you can't make "setc al", nor would it seem to help with what I did anyways. < 1407310448 22427 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What I am doing is effectively trying to use two carry flags at once.) < 1407310995 171157 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407311018 700421 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest19003 < 1407311032 668876 :Guest19003!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407311109 254414 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407311149 148601 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my program sensible to you? < 1407311357 558780 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07User talk:Rdebath14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40260&oldid=40082 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+2069) 10/* Sandbox -- Evil tables */ new section < 1407311370 107562 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07GML14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40261&oldid=40255 5* 03GermanyBoy 5* (+206) 10YoYo GML is not a C++ clone, and even if it was, it is still a language. < 1407311514 318331 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu PART #esoteric :"Silentium est aureum" < 1407311554 436663 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407311700 399441 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Client Quit < 1407311813 926680 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407311936 868244 :glogbackup!~glogbacku@192.3.160.190 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407312302 56380 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407312722 110227 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Dc14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40262&oldid=40236 5* 03Rdebath 5* (+1) 10Fix the fake pipe < 1407312912 101863 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407313100 359826 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm not much of a 6502 person. But I did catch the summation of two carry flags. I don't know the " ip.stackstack[-1].length is wrong. < 1407321832 121390 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was about to say so. It seems to prepend 0s to the SOSS itself, not the copied block. < 1407321864 108280 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1407321944 672547 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after fixing this Mycology still says it transfers incorrectly. < 1407321968 395301 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also not sure about the number of 0s. If n is 5 and ip.stackstack[-1].length is 3, (n-ip.stackstack[-1].length-1) = (5-3-1) = 1 zero, not two. < 1407322056 281697 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm, I fixed that too < 1407322064 721414 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mycology still BADs < 1407322081 296948 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no BADs before that btw < 1407322171 978956 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh also I found a minor Mycology bug, it has three dots that are supposed to be in stringmode but aren't. < 1407322231 838641 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a corrupt stackstack error < 1407322444 797518 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, so it seems. < 1407322527 953115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Deewiant mycology.b98, line 72, columns 128..148 (1-based): "upt stack stack"...a should presumably have the ... inside string mode. < 1407322528 435328 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1407322532 47791 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best to report these things. < 1407322616 457281 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, so do you know what could cause that BAD? I think my } code works correctly now. < 1407322662 891723 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't catch anything in the code. Of course, I didn't see the new one. (Which BAD message it was, exactly?) < 1407322684 26915 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there an @clear-messages or something < 1407322685 610118 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :@messages < 1407322689 417457 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: } transfers cells incorrectly < 1407322703 873443 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stopping due to fear of corrupt stack stack... < 1407322766 463751 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Fixed as of Thu Nov 1 13:44:46 2012 +0200 < 1407322775 942046 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1407322781 55026 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is my version that old? < 1407322794 300007 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just went with what I had unzipped in ~/tmp/mycology/ in ages past. < 1407322795 143610 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :new code here http://bpaste.net/show/N1asth8vqyMpcvvZ8SP3/ < 1407322809 20119 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? I just redownloaded Mycology and it had that in < 1407322813 302678 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also the command is exactly @clear-messages.) < 1407322837 949331 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The latest version, 2010–04–01". < 1407322843 298136 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possibly I haven't made a newer release < 1407322961 670017 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/iGNa anyway that's what you're missing so it's not a big deal < 1407323016 258576 :callforjudgement!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1407323369 578747 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 9876543215{$$$$$$542}......@ < 1407323370 86202 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 5 6 7 8 9 < 1407323395 11067 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul: You get the same output from the above? It's the simplified version of what mycology tests, though it also does the storage offset tests that complicate things. < 1407323420 204433 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And all those $s are actually w's testing the {.) < 1407323431 372586 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I don't, I get 4 5 5 6 7 8 for some reason < 1407323458 532109 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious. Well, that's a lot simpler test case, at least. < 1407323464 39528 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/show/4rf9GJaJDTOBCpZfPtBX/ < 1407323472 385051 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :here is the debug mode output for that program < 1407323518 182610 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, that 5 is left in both the TOSS and SOSS. < 1407323541 533865 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stack: [5, 4, 3, 2, 1]" "SOSS: [9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 0, 0]" around line 115. < 1407323551 928789 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps double-check your {, then. < 1407323587 4946 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1407323658 335243 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology seems to be kind of testing both the { and the } simultaneously there, in that it looks for 4 5 6 7 8 9 where the "4 5" is transferred with 2} and the "6 7 8 9" should be left behind by the earlier 5{. < 1407323733 588936 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ip.stackstack[-2] = ip.stackstack[-2][0..-n] is where the error lies < 1407323745 384006 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :changing that to ip.stackstack[-2] = ip.stackstack[-2][0..-n-1] should fix the error < 1407323765 445401 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1407323766 959485 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1407323768 942567 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not it < 1407323865 523826 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that was it < 1407323866 442889 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1407323886 797496 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :phew, no errors in u < 1407323890 228085 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to implement y. < 1407324712 301658 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407325035 625186 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't mind if there was something simpler than {0{2un02-u0} or some-such to do "{ except no storage offset change". (The quoted bit is not even really that; that would be something uglier like fyey0{2u\0{2u0} for 0{ or even worse for a non-zero argument of {.) < 1407325075 877028 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Assuming I could make myself to use the stack stack in the first place, that is.) < 1407325265 164755 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1407325870 382092 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407325882 566906 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1407325945 91856 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, there's a Famous Guy giving a talk on the current state-of-the-art in speech synthesis, and I'm going to miss it. :/ < 1407325946 531805 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found { useful in some of the fingerprint tests in mycology, possibly just because the y coordinate was getting tediously big < 1407326054 471011 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I had a great idea for representing fungespace in an interpreter < 1407326059 753191 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :map fungespace to your address space < 1407326079 818004 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then whenever you want to access a particular area of space, you mmap an allocation over it if the memory's currently unaddressable < 1407326085 850282 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds vaguely familiar. < 1407326095 351315 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would probably require reducing the size of an int to, say, 24 < 1407326121 295320 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly even less than that, since there's only 47 bits of userland address space on Typical Systems. < 1407326152 480955 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And perhaps you'd want to use some of it for, say, the program.) < 1407326289 673260 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I was assuming the entire 64-bit address space could be logical addresses, if not physical < 1407326300 835595 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't even get logical access to most of it, that makes things worse < 1407326307 688612 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, no. The 48-bit canonical address restriction applies to virtual addresses. < 1407326324 180543 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise it wouldn't save in the number of page table hierarchy levels you'd need. < 1407326339 860198 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And address translation hardware and whatnot.) < 1407326345 417843 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this team number thing btw? < 1407326363 94661 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :A relic, ignore it < 1407326370 135606 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can just push 0 < 1407326371 441252 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1407326378 700345 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1407326384 219308 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1407326417 223019 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407326431 135517 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree, I am closed to convinced that ccbi and cfunge are on different teams < 1407326441 245100 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest90901 < 1407326442 59460 :augur__!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407326450 315596 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, perhaps < 1407326454 535278 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :While it's not quite kosher spec-wise, I'm sure a reasonable number of actual programs would run even in systems where the (potential) funge-space dimensions don't match the cell size. < 1407326466 796578 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1407326482 771267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also if you just mask out higher bits, you get an interesting space where the contents are duplicated in a grid-like thing.) < 1407326500 882173 :Guest90901!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur_ < 1407326503 692075 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1407326505 14781 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analogous to having ROM pages visible at several addresses or whatnot. < 1407326523 986790 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that /would/ break many programs, if a lahey-line happened to hit one of the copies < 1407326534 986338 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll call my interpreter RubyFunge < 1407326542 608681 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can have the handprint RUFU < 1407326552 521793 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1407326559 846255 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your handprint doesn't have to match your interpreter's name < 1407326593 148844 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1407326604 739096 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want it to < 1407326605 680708 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1407326627 150115 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: Possibly not as much for non-flying deltas. < 1407326631 173569 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you convert it again? < 1407326642 49887 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: was trying to work that out < 1407326655 779264 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :orthogonals would be OK, but even diagonals would be bad < 1407326663 401417 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!perl print unpack('N', 'RUFU'); < 1407326663 891352 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1381320277 < 1407326673 410738 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1407326717 366653 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should I push as cell size? Ruby automatically uses bignums on overflow. < 1407326720 308204 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no x's in fungot either, I'm (again) "proud" to say. < 1407326720 507168 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you can always make a subclass called fnord and writes img fnord" in the list. i guess < 1407326738 786259 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I shouldn't be so terribly proud of being unable to leverage the language features. < 1407326739 270684 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I push -1? < 1407326755 313099 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 and 0 have been the two typically used with bignums, IIRC < 1407326766 616341 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the fungespace also bignum? < 1407326782 76346 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 seems like the best option, though, it's infinity in one's complement < 1407326790 230314 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess 0 is infinity in two's complement < 1407326818 940987 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There should be a program that starts with a diagonal x and uses only ] and [ to change delta from then on < 1407326835 238127 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it is ais < 1407326847 61529 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How would you feel like being tilted 45 degrees? < 1407326847 367910 :fungot!fis@eos.zem.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i laughed out load at pikhq's last-but-one sentence in which you evaluate the whole thing from the outside? < 1407326898 204547 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm wondering what pikhq's last-but-one sentence is < 1407326905 492860 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but without the logs in HackEgo, it's hard to tell < 1407326974 275885 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :On this channel, I believe it's 2014-07-20 03:15:13+0300 pikhq As it only uses lines that are on the cartridge port, you could just have a weird cartridge with a parallel port on it. < 1407326975 219413 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: It was in fact you doing the laughing, so you ought to remember. < 1407326997 256308 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: not sure if I remember everything I've laughed at in the past < 1407326997 970977 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: You also got a funny look from the person sitting next to you. < 1407327027 458698 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I've got in trouble for laughing too much at #esoteric before now < 1407327054 429815 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helpful log fairy: http://sprunge.us/VdiZ < 1407327091 289490 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As it only uses lines that are on the cartridge port, you could just have a weird cartridge with a parallel port on it." < 1407327101 361483 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well someone already got it < 1407327131 435484 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, the line in question made me laugh /again/ < 1407327134 798789 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I guess it's funny < 1407327208 959276 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what you could do instead < 1407327215 741361 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be for if(x); to set a global flag < 1407327221 954349 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then(y); to run y if the flag was true < 1407327227 762056 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :else(z); to run z if the flag was false < 1407327231 362476 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't FORTH do something like that? < 1407327366 804635 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sane option is of course if_else(x,y,z); < 1407327541 229778 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORTH syntax is IF ELSE THEN < 1407327559 939009 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1407327575 339619 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the point where someone explains it to me again because I know it's for a good reason but I can't remember what it is < 1407327617 980267 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's all just jumps. The IF word pops a value, and jumps past the matching ELSE/THEN word if it was false, otherwise proceeds. < 1407327641 27460 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I did some searching of my own < 1407327650 144636 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's written the way it is because the else is optional < 1407327654 726466 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1407327669 824983 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric : IF THEN is also just fine. < 1407327680 419033 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :gforth (IIRC) provides a (recommended?) alias of "ENDIF" for "THEN". < 1407327718 787249 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which makes it a IF b ENDIF or a IF b ELSE c ENDIF depending on if an else is present. < 1407327775 436597 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be recommended, since the non-reference section of the manual on selection statements -- https://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/Docs-html/Selection.html -- only mentions the ENDIF. < 1407327777 671660 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this page also suggests that it's idiomatic to use + for boolean-or, and AND for boolean-and < 1407327788 390993 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's there, I just missed it. < 1407327795 444240 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess this is because true is -1 < 1407327801 991300 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can use THEN instead of ENDIF. Indeed, THEN is standard, and ENDIF is not, although it is quite popular. We recommend using ENDIF, because it is less confusing for people who also know other languages (and is not prone to reinforcing negative prejudices against Forth in these people)." < 1407327803 197964 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-1 * -1) + -1 is 0 < 1407327823 368588 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407327832 551626 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you need at least one of AND and OR in order to get working logicals < 1407327855 308862 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need both because you can get the other one via arithmetic < 1407327866 217589 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess there's also the chance of integer overflow if you use both + and * on booleans < 1407327882 767822 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because addition is cheaper than multiplication, I guess you use + and AND < 1407327937 494931 :Patashu_!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1407328004 44494 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407328096 966784 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu JOIN :#esoteric < 1407328211 466072 :visnu!ThrashIRC@unaffiliated/visnu PART :#esoteric < 1407328433 386253 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? Mycology says z takes 0 ticks when it doesn't and 5kz takes more than 3 ticks when it takes exactly 3. < 1407328556 714722 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's testing that multiple IPs are properly in sync, any number of things could be wrong < 1407328560 369741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :!forth true 64 0 [?do] dup + [loop] . true 64 0 [?do] dup or [loop] . < 1407328560 978679 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 -1 < 1407328573 476465 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: ^ it's still a bit of a problem. < 1407328599 558493 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to get better at Forth, really < 1407328615 595406 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :one idea I've had is a completely from-the-metal compiler stack where everything that happens can easily be manually inspected < 1407328618 374701 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :using minimal compilers, etc. < 1407328655 670130 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was planning to start with 6502 machine code because it's a) reasonably legible, b) there are /tons/ of emulators, c) the bare metal is not impossible to find, d) it's old enough that it's unlikely to have a strong AI in it rewriting any programs that run to include backdoors < 1407328681 828889 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, we can probably assume that there's a certain filesize below which strong AI is impossible, that would make things easier < 1407328898 741247 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :17 bytes < 1407328964 667715 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be too small to do other, useful, non-strong-AI things, though < 1407329306 122972 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo, I made it through Mycology with only a few BADs :D < 1407329331 8225 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/show/Te5ks6DC5LQiEgfBvyYU/ < 1407329337 951390 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's the output :D < 1407329397 626911 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw you can see my environment variables because I forgot to snip lol < 1407329412 364817 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I mind terribly < 1407329531 546792 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then, now my Ruby implementation is better than my Python one was :P < 1407329610 508416 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul: FWIW I've planned to make that topmost UNDEF a BAD, just haven't got around to it < 1407329660 209084 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407329805 595864 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those 0 outputs from BASE also seem questionable < 1407329852 913256 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set it to output 0 if it encounters an ArgumentError < 1407329886 577781 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reflection would make more sense < 1407329934 244835 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I've had an idea for a Mycology test < 1407329943 769121 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407329948 942734 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the int size from y; place " signs at opposite ends of the playfield < 1407329955 414731 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :then see how many spaces the resulting string contains < 1407329967 187540 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest17804 < 1407329979 760804 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not portable due to bignum interpreters < 1407329986 60597 :Guest17804!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur_ < 1407329994 738057 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already UNDEF: the empty string wrapped around the edge of space contains 1 character(s) (hopefully spaces) < 1407329999 131024 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could UNDEF it on those < 1407330002 877284 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that UNDEF is what inspired me < 1407330008 237766 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might be different if you hit the edge of the playfield < 1407330014 698652 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, fair enough < 1407330070 667758 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made it actually output unary (00000...) and reflect on all other unrecognized bases now. < 1407330163 660584 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://bpaste.net/show/cANhkUMEU3eQTolZXhbj/ < 1407330213 48357 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps Befunge2K would work better if all instructions had a random chance of reflecting, rather than if all instructions had a random chance of doing nothing < 1407330224 704022 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because in the latter version, ; was still 100% reliable < 1407330239 940194 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the former version, r is still 100% reliable ;-) < 1407330276 267695 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, but that's what you'd expect from the semantics < 1407330279 294976 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than being a special case < 1407330298 213848 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an interesting thought experiment, though, trying to write 100% reliable Funge-98 programs if the instructions themselves are unreliable < 1407330312 651185 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I vaguely liked the concept of Java2K, but the implementation is awful < 1407330319 574496 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I wanted to make a better language < 1407330332 597370 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1407330359 897240 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that ; is a marker instead of an instruction, like space < 1407330390 537380 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :RubyFunge is so much faster than my Python implementation :P < 1407330417 232573 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes, that's why I felt OK special-casing it < 1407330442 802373 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Quit: *bubbles away* < 1407330455 546665 :Frooxius!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407330455 746589 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407330501 133597 :Froox!~Frooxius@cust-101.ktknet.cz QUIT :Client Quit < 1407330513 436823 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int foo(void){}; int main(void){if(0) {asm volatile("comefrom foo"); puts("test");} foo(); return 0;} < 1407330517 83995 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1407330523 923185 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1407330543 701819 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it normally do that on invalid programs? I forgot the colons < 1407330553 185869 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int foo(void){}; int main(void){if(0) {asm volatile("comefrom foo" : : ); puts("test");} foo(); puts("bar"); return 0;} < 1407330555 327375 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1407330564 970812 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main(void){ < 1407330566 478869 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1407330584 7891 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm confused :-( < 1407330597 802135 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main(void){puts("Hello, world!"); return 0;} < 1407330599 824360 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1407330600 568043 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407330613 371843 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c puts("Hello, world!"); < 1407330615 451968 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1407330623 184865 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, I guess I redefined main inside main, then didn't run it < 1407330641 447859 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int foo(void){}; if(0) {asm volatile("comefrom foo" : : ); puts("test");} foo(); puts("bar"); return 0; < 1407330643 548262 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :bar < 1407330647 73674 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1407330652 392378 :perrier!~cinch@107.170.175.57 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407330942 144375 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main(void) {puts("test");} main(); < 1407330944 207227 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test < 1407330966 69205 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c int main(void) {int main(void) {puts("another test");} puts("test"); main();} main(); < 1407330968 213914 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ another test < 1407330979 896306 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :this seems useful for the IOCCC, even though it isn't standard < 1407331073 875741 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an automatic main wrapper in !c? Didn't remember that. < 1407331119 942606 :fizzie!fis@unaffiliated/fizzie PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also didn't know that GCC nested functions can have the same name as the containing function, though in retrospect it's reasonable enough, since variables can, too. < 1407331267 595735 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I didn't think there was either, but that should be conclusive proof < 1407331286 365475 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1407331303 792431 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, there was some debate over whether compilers should be required to optimise out asm statements in untaken conditionals < 1407331315 833513 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :when Mycology loads ROMA then MODU it says M reflects, but when I try it in a test program it works fine. < 1407331319 912674 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever compiler EgoBot's using (presumably gcc) seems to, at least, even with asm volatile < 1407331356 144059 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be optimizing out my comefrom statement :-( < 1407331510 146678 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@M.@ outputs 0 in my implementation but Mycology says M reflects in this case. < 1407331590 127534 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :!funge98 "AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@M.@ < 1407331602 800907 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@M.@ < 1407331603 288311 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1407331606 63436 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1407331644 234051 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@\M.@ < 1407331648 775503 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1407331652 323144 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@\M.@ < 1407331652 873929 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1407331672 763263 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also outputs 1 in my interpreter < 1407331750 406009 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "AMOR"4("UDOM"4(#@\M."UDOM"4)#@M."AMOR"4)#@M.@ < 1407331750 934995 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 1000 < 1407331790 447340 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :also does this in RubyFunge < 1407331862 812658 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 "AMOR"4("UDOM"4(n#@M.@ < 1407331863 422304 :EgoBot!dlopen@libdl.so PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1407331881 631269 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps that makes a difference? < 1407331903 604727 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1407331905 710510 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme see < 1407331924 567777 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup, that seems to reflect < 1407331951 523517 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I accidentally made it reflect if a == 0 < 1407331961 7350 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :b == 0* < 1407332037 317953 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now it's all GOODs < 1407332039 861165 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1407332047 37379 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that part anyway < 1407332089 574935 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you unload ROMA and then M has ROMA semantics :P < 1407332190 436824 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an important test for some interpreter IIRC, likely RC/Funge-98 < 1407332349 191852 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bpaste.net/show/aUqZJFMrDzTbpc8jIduD/ < 1407332350 401466 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1407332568 611675 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :When MODE is unloaded, should hover/invert/switch/queuemode be disabled? < 1407332589 211870 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should other IPs inherit those modes in concurrent Funge? < 1407332655 129203 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: why are you looking for unloaded commands on the playfield? < 1407332666 964887 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: That's output from his interpreter < 1407332672 906134 :Deewiant!~deewiant@deewiant.iki.fi PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul: Somewhat UNDEF, though I'd suggest no and yes respectively < 1407332675 757071 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant "encountered" < 1407332685 304944 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh, right < 1407332690 488392 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :going to change it to that too < 1407332742 134107 :ais523_!93bcc175@gateway/web/freenode/ip.147.188.193.117 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1407333080 207834 :Guest50711!~zuu@0x5e911bd1.adsl.cybercity.dk NICK :Zuu < 1407333082 455117 :Zuu!~zuu@0x5e911bd1.adsl.cybercity.dk QUIT :Changing host < 1407333082 653945 :Zuu!~zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1407333184 448619 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1407335747 902105 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe QUIT :Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in < 1407335824 855943 :KingOfKarlsruhe!~KingOfKar@unaffiliated/kingofkarlsruhe JOIN :#esoteric < 1407336273 811889 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1407337154 248062 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07BytePusher14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40268&oldid=40227 5* 03Nucular 5* (+108) 10New VM implementation < 1407337996 740578 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-135-225.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407338158 982618 :nucular!~BAAH@unaffiliated/nucular JOIN :#esoteric < 1407338717 865539 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407339159 827099 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407339761 6601 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/counting/ < this has got to be the best place on the internet. < 1407339796 662662 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that unlikely for a place starting with reddit.com < 1407339819 984159 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is pretty terrifying < 1407339884 285094 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/counting/comments/2bj5fg/live_counting/ ... < 1407339886 182511 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a good subreddit < 1407339898 450369 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :We reached 10k today (Congratulations to /u/KingCaspianX for the get). < 1407339905 185378 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think these people have even emptier lives than I do. < 1407339913 856477 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :live < 1407339914 835355 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :~10 viewers < 1407340400 986365 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem to have given up < 1407340478 208630 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in the normal counting threads < 1407341101 430294 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh huh < 1407341107 967693 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit killed the epic thread < 1407341841 617221 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :oshit a NEW implementation of bytepusher? < 1407341916 535049 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :well JsBP works but the audio is terrible :/ < 1407342069 766738 :nucular!~BAAH@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1407342082 662716 :nucular!~BAAH@unaffiliated/nucular PRIVMSG #esoteric :also hi :P < 1407342088 615806 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1407342338 287675 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: killed howso? < 1407342425 169430 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :they changed the archiving logic, now you can't reply to a comment if the original submission's over 6 months old < 1407342505 81329 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1407343463 492115 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :what epic thread? < 1407344402 101586 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have now read the replies to my message about the carry flag in bit0. I can tell you that using shift/rotate instructions on the accumulator is not slow; it is slow if operating on memory. < 1407344479 943935 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, in MagicKit, the < prefix means zero-page operation. < 1407344794 65744 :vjoba!~quassel@ip-89-177-133-209.net.upcbroadband.cz JOIN :#esoteric < 1407344828 750747 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul, google 'epic thread reddit', that should help < 1407345128 4356 :vjoba!~quassel@ip-89-177-133-209.net.upcbroadband.cz PART #esoteric :"http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere." < 1407345685 608910 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1407345709 106027 :Bike!~Glossina@71-222-47-173.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407346295 474385 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Stapler14]]4 N10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?oldid=40269 5* 03Mobac 5* (+2699) 10Created page with "'' 'Staple' '' - [[esoteric programming language]], created in 2011 [http://speccy.info/Kakos_nonos Alexander Zavgorodny]. On the official website there is documentation on ..." < 1407349315 131745 :edwardk!~edwardk@pdpc/supporter/professional/edwardk JOIN :#esoteric < 1407349473 320162 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1407349818 514626 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407350086 159930 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 244 seconds < 1407350455 422990 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin JOIN :#esoteric < 1407350661 431648 :shikhin!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1407350664 13708 :shikhout!~shikhin@unaffiliated/shikhin NICK :shikhin < 1407350964 960677 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407351004 150932 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :Guest80630 < 1407351043 139732 :Guest80630!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com NICK :augur_ < 1407352365 887595 :drlemon!~drlemon@cpe-108-184-244-109.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407352896 977035 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam JOIN :#esoteric < 1407352912 281120 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam QUIT :Excess Flood < 1407352942 866675 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam JOIN :#esoteric < 1407353328 903040 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam QUIT :Excess Flood < 1407353358 926107 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam JOIN :#esoteric < 1407355677 184573 :turtlemansam!~turtleman@unaffiliated/turtlemansam QUIT :Quit: join #penisball for a good time < 1407356600 461602 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407356733 751247 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is trying to archive a website which will disappear soon and is getting rather annoyed.
< 1407356810 724655 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in Polish and the text looks slightly different to the original when viewed on archive.org < 1407356853 742465 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some characters change, e.g. "Podstaw�" -> "Podstaw?" < 1407356919 354620 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like an encoding issue < 1407357124 716535 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :That question mark displays as an a-ogonek here. < 1407357163 977059 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if the browser sometimes picks a charset depending on the TLD.
< 1407357203 603732 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regardless, if the header (or META, for HTML documents) specifies a charset it should use that one instead if possible. < 1407357237 804466 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's http header stuff. < 1407357244 566356 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can probably adjust the charset used in your browser's menus < 1407357409 708882 :impomatic_!~digital_w@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The header specifies Windows-1250 so I don't understand why it displays differently. I'll convert it to UTF-8 when I figure which is correct... < 1407358507 400264 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407358554 992935 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407358786 779897 :`^_^v!~nycs@gw.hq.meetup.com NICK :nycs < 1407359092 981455 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1407360322 989932 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1407360744 421332 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407361052 369216 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407361951 207383 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1407362411 821622 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@tell Deewiant Is there an @clear-messages or something <-- yes. < 1407362412 312644 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consider it noted. < 1407362430 866086 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@cl < 1407362431 451382 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you meant: clear-auto-reply clear-messages clear-topic pl < 1407362439 784146 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1407362442 644775 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :@clear-m < 1407362443 244558 :lambdabot!~lambdabot@silicon.int-e.eu PRIVMSG #esoteric :Messages cleared. < 1407362583 109359 :nucular!~BAAH@unaffiliated/nucular QUIT :Quit: Client Quit) (Don't be sad < 1407363437 645614 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-163-205.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :shachaf, oerjan, Bike: I have found out about U+EF01 in DejaVu Sans, namely that it and the surrounding glyphs are pieces to compose tone contours with. This particular one appears to be the high-to-extrahigh element used for the sequence ˦˥ , which compare with  . < 1407363593 342093 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll like point out i cannot read most of your other characters either < 1407363596 602738 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+to < 1407363900 993474 :Melvar!~melvar@dslb-178-006-163-205.178.006.pools.vodafone-ip.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :`unidecode ˦˥ < 1407363901 602139 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :​[U+02E6 MODIFIER LETTER HIGH TONE BAR] [U+02E5 MODIFIER LETTER EXTRA-HIGH TONE BAR] < 1407365917 781789 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 QUIT :Quit: mihow < 1407366068 77957 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1407366141 98887 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.10.0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1407366498 490677 :mhi^!~mhi@unaffiliated/mhi/x-9993184 QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1407366572 535422 :augur_!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1407366968 63834 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-135-225.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407367142 679443 :MoALTz!~no@user-188-33-135-225.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1407367216 273476 :MoALTz__!~no@user-188-33-135-225.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1407367347 268067 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@151.42.10.0 QUIT :Ping timeout: 256 seconds < 1407367375 310616 :augur!~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1407367447 878926 :MoALTz_!~no@user-188-33-135-225.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1407368071 368192 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION made a comment on the sillies /r/counting thread he found
< 1407368075 12558 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+t