< 1408493805 0 :J_Arcane_!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1408493881 0 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1408493881 0 :olsner!~salparot@c83-252-201-82.bredband.comhem.se QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1408493889 0 :J_Arcane_!?@? 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NICK :Guest49104 < 1408500030 0 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1408501526 0 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: WEEKLY CHICKEN < 1408502322 0 :TodPunk!Tod@50-198-177-186-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408503042 0 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-84-52.42-151.net24.it QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408505906 0 :wagner_!4d0b023a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.2.58 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408506522 0 :Bike_!~Glossina@75-164-167-67.ptld.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408506552 0 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-67.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1408506569 0 :Bike_!?@? NICK :Bike < 1408507060 0 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408507110 0 :^v!~notnot^v@c-71-238-153-166.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408507861 0 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408507977 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408508088 0 :nisstyre!yourstruly@oftn/member/Nisstyre JOIN :#esoteric < 1408508108 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1408511697 0 :wagner_!4d0b023a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.11.2.58 QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1408514884 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1408515218 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408515403 0 :Sgeo!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408515958 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1408518988 0 :Bike!~Glossina@75-164-167-67.ptld.qwest.net QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1408521453 0 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: (set-jarcane-connect! J_Arcane #f) < 1408523602 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A45FF2.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1408525968 0 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.hsi14.unitymediagroup.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1408526764 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1408527452 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morning < 1408528609 0 :vifino!~vifino@ip-37-24-78-77.hsi14.unitymediagroup.de QUIT :Quit: Ze Cat now leaves... < 1408528710 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nooning. < 1408528753 0 :Taneb!~Taneb@runciman.hacksoc.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, you < 1408528940 0 :Lorenzo64!~lorenzo@adsl-ull-96-62.42-151.net24.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1408530820 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone JOIN :#esoteric < 1408531045 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1408532730 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick JOIN :#esoteric < 1408532915 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408533161 0 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408533499 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51A45FF2.access.telenet.be QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408535407 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1408536181 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 QUIT : < 1408536600 0 :boily!~boily@96.127.201.149 QUIT :Quit: UNALIGNED CHICKEN < 1408539380 0 :ChanServ!ChanServ@services. MODE #esoteric +o :oerjan < 1408539417 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -b :*!*mauris@*$##fixyourconnection < 1408539440 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408539448 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no MODE #esoteric -o :oerjan < 1408540037 0 :Sgeo_!~quassel@ool-44c2aebc.dyn.optonline.net QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408540145 0 :AnotherTest!~turingcom@d51a45ff2.access.telenet.be JOIN :#esoteric < 1408540242 0 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1408542606 0 :Patashu!~Patashu@c27-253-115-204.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1408542839 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1408544818 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1408545386 0 :Guest49104!skarn@binary.firrre.com QUIT :Changing host < 1408545386 0 :Guest49104!skarn@unaffiliated/skarn JOIN :#esoteric < 1408545394 0 :Guest49104!?@? NICK :skarn < 1408546905 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1408547851 0 :hubs!hubs@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe69:46d3 QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408548512 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust486.18-2.cable.virginm.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408548512 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc13-sgyl31-2-0-cust486.18-2.cable.virginm.net QUIT :Changing host < 1408548512 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover JOIN :#esoteric < 1408549962 0 :mihow!~mihow@108.30.58.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408550777 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@162.248.166.242 PRIVMSG #esoteric :[wiki] 14[[07Two14]]4 10 02http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40308&oldid=39517 5* 03Tailcalled 5* (+5) 10 < 1408550865 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not convinced that Two solves the halting problem < 1408551353 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it does < 1408551383 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: It does for standard turing-complete languages: Write an interpreter for a universal machine that takes a maximum number of simulation steps as its argument; make it loop forever if the number of steps is exhausted. Use I to guess the necessary number of iterations until the program terminates. < 1408551393 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it does not solve the Halting problem for itself. < 1408551413 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohh < 1408551414 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1408551450 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: ah. < 1408551461 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I is not well-defined; consider +>>I[-[>]<<[]>-] (which halts if I produces an even number, and loops forever otherwise) < 1408551474 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least that's my intention, I have not tested the code) < 1408551576 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that discern between even and not even? < 1408551614 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :TieSoul: it's basically [--] with a test for zero in the middle. < 1408551628 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm < 1408551655 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1408551663 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :It loops basically forever regardless though < 1408551699 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :since | represents infinity < 1408551734 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a capital I < 1408551785 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1408551791 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense I guess < 1408551811 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I guess the specification doesn't really say anything about the values of the cells. I assumed natural numbers, but indeed you can add an infinity. < 1408551829 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is not modified by + nor -) < 1408551887 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's crucial that I does not simply use that value unless all smaller values violate its specification < 1408551968 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :and worse, the infinity itself has to be excluded from its considerations. I[-] is supposed to terminate, but if I sets the cell to infinity, it would run forever. < 1408551971 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :tricky. < 1408552094 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I also got the halting problem reduction slightly wrong (it reduces the halting problem to another one); instead of looping forever when the number of iterations is exhausted, it should print "No", while upon successful termination, it should print "Yes". < 1408552230 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, there's an example I[->.<] which clarifies the behaviour of I. < 1408554887 0 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-226-95.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1408555127 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not mention how the halting problem is solved. < 1408555362 0 :TieSoul!~TieSoul@5ED55308.cm-7-6b.dynamic.ziggo.nl QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1408555744 0 :yorick!~yorick@oftn/member/yorick QUIT :Quit: . < 1408557370 0 :MindlessDrone!~MindlessD@unaffiliated/mindlessdrone QUIT :Quit: MindlessDrone < 1408557379 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@deagol.pikhq.com QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1408557460 0 :MoALTz_!~no@user-164-126-226-95.play-internet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1408557639 0 :MoALTz!~no@user-164-126-226-95.play-internet.pl QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1408558492 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it correct that I[->.<] is improper but that I[-.] is OK? < 1408558555 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are both proper < 1408558617 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says that I is an infinite loop if it is improper; does this mean the I instruction itself or the data is made infinite? < 1408558644 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doens't say "improper" < 1408558652 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it doesn't say "improper" < 1408558652 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is nothing improper < 1408558707 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely a program such as ]]I]]]]-[ would be improper, isn't it? < 1408558729 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :peharps. the specification does not say < 1408558777 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :peharps! < 1408558788 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION throws peas at harps < 1408559076 0 :J_Arcane!~JArcane@dsl-trebrasgw2-54f949-238.dhcp.inet.fi QUIT :Quit: (set-jarcane-connect! J_Arcane #f) < 1408559463 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :They mentione above that it is not well defined +>>I[-[>]<<[]>-] see? < 1408559500 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although then they say it is infinite < 1408559591 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since sometimes it is impossible to do what it says it is supposed to do < 1408559653 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408559681 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408559786 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408559796 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any better ideas for defining a programming language to define effect of cards in Magic: the Gathering and Pokemon card and so on, other than solely what I have written in the past few days? Perhaps, something based on those but better or more defined? < 1408559812 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408559947 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408559960 0 :subleq!~gavin@208.186.116.206 QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1408559973 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408560318 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I'd agree that I[-.] should terminate, because of . being a nop for non-unicode code points. < 1408560371 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :int-e: Yes, that is what I would see, too. (Even if extended to a longer range, as long as it is still a limited range of codepoints it is still OK) < 1408560383 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess it would print all of unicode in reverse order < 1408560392 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: right < 1408560416 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :I[--.] wouldn't be well defined though! < 1408560444 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are correct < 1408560449 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny. < 1408560533 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: as the comment below the table says, in that case I would loop forever; the result would be a program that loops forever without output. < 1408560671 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems that it ought to simply be an error instead; where an error is considered as not halting. < 1408560945 0 :int-e!~noone@static.88-198-179-137.clients.your-server.de PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would raise the question whether errors are distinguishable from nontermination < 1408561148 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :The answer must be whichever way does not cause a paradox. (I am not sure that a paradox can be caused anyways, but possibly it can be considered??) < 1408561199 0 :subleq!~gavin@208.186.116.206 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408561210 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree that I[-.] should do nothing and never halt < 1408561238 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :since if I+ is the same as I++ is the same as I+++, then so also should I be the same as I- and I-- < 1408561251 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't think that is what it means. < 1408561295 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I suppose what you say is true but that's because the "I" command then uses different values to compensate for such thing. < 1408561313 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't seem to imply, to me, that I[-.] should then never halt. < 1408561333 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408561358 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408561382 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :rereading, the print all code points and halt also makes sense < 1408561440 0 :quintopia!~quintopia@unaffiliated/quintopia PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, I[--.] as a program that loops forever without output also makes sense in the hyperreals < 1408561573 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408561600 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408561753 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1408561847 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :The codu logs seem to be down... < 1408562043 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me there ought to be an online IPA phonics to speech synthesiser, but I can't find one :-( < 1408562312 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you cannot find such a program, maybe you can write one? Do you know how to write one? < 1408562434 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loquendo had one (I don't recall if they had a demo), but their website seems to have been discombobulated now that Nuance bought them. < 1408562510 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can feed raw SSMP into http://www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php but I doubt their voices cover all of IPA. < 1408562556 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, SSML. I don't know where I got the P from. < 1408562560 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably from SMTP. < 1408562587 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to sort a partial ordering in a C program? < 1408562624 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408562652 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408562808 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :dummy sounds like a cat, but doesn't work, so you're limited to what you can find in English SAMPA. < 1408562883 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you cannot get X-SAMPA then either, I suppose. < 1408562883 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, actually alphabet="ipa" does something too, if you hex-entity-encode the IPA stuff. < 1408562924 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I got plain ... out too, so I guess I just typoed something. < 1408562934 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I doubt you can stick any IPA in there and expect it to work. < 1408562946 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408562972 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408563020 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, at least ɸ doesn't come out at all. < 1408563066 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408563093 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408563334 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's made a bookmarklet -- http://johntantalo.com/blog/ipa-tts-bookmarklet/ -- around the AT&T demo, that's about all freely available I can find. < 1408563458 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: we've got a visitor from University of Edinburgh's speech synthesis group (home of Festival) at our lab/group/organizational-unit this month. < 1408563486 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408563518 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408563615 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know, that in Hero Hearts, a fire extinguisher not only extinguishes fire, but it also extinguishes lava, too? < 1408563675 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not much luck trying to feed "kʀiːk deːɐ̯ kɛʁnə" into TTS! < 1408563684 0 :shachaf!~shachaf@unaffiliated/shachaf PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a card game which is a variation of Hearts? < 1408563701 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1408563708 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@24-207-51-179.eastlink.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a computer game < 1408563846 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408563873 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408564026 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1408564054 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 JOIN :#esoteric < 1408564067 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: i could pronounce it for you! < 1408564152 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no luck with the bookmarklet in Chrome. It's not even working on his examples. < 1408564200 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :They may have changed the interface. < 1408564238 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about http://forvo.com/word/krieg/#de http://forvo.com/word/der/#de http://forvo.com/word/kerne/#de < 1408564241 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :mauris: thanks, if you shout it really, really loud that should do the trick. < 1408564294 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's actual language and not just some made-up thing? < 1408564311 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just write "krieg der kerne" in Google Translate and ask it to play it back. < 1408564339 0 :mauris!~mauris@2a02:1810:4d0d:7e00:cc4f:ef2c:281d:f6e6 PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that of course < 1408564655 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've said this before, but having GT speak English words with their Finnish voice is p. amusing. It's a very close approximation of the stereotypical bad English Finns are supposed to speak. < 1408564659 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comes with having a more or less phonemic orthography, I'm sure. < 1408564661 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably most of the joke is lost on non-Finnish people. < 1408564710 0 :coppro!raedford@taurine.csclub.uwaterloo.ca PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get it < 1408564763 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're missing the context of jokes about "tankero-englanti". < 1408564773 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankero ooh, notable < 1408564847 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@167.156.125.91.dyn.plus.net PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, google translate sounds close to the forvo pronunciation. I'm still surprised there isn't an IPA to speech tool online though. < 1408564864 0 :fizzie!?@? PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should make one to rectify this. < 1408564883 0 :fizzie!?@? 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