00:01:43 fungot: is an fcolor akin to a fnord? and if so, what is a nord? 00:01:43 boily: mikä on approaching ja mikä on peculiar. anteeks että olen tyhmä. tai no en kyllä ketään fnord. such shortcuts are bad things. 00:02:07 fungot: je parle pas finnois, du moins pas encore. 00:02:08 boily: feels like basic used to for sure. 00:02:21 fungot: no, I'm not used to it yet. 00:02:22 boily: for most schemers, it does not implement scheme properly.)) the same place 00:02:44 fungot: ah, so the fcolor is an implementation problem? 00:02:44 boily: yes you did. it was a joke 00:03:23 fungot: toé mon espèce de damned fiend that you are me ferai pas reprendre encore just watch me. 00:32:11 -!- CrazyM4n has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:33:13 -!- hogeyui____ has changed nick to hogeyui. 00:33:17 -!- hogeyui has changed nick to hogeyui_. 00:33:19 -!- hogeyui_ has changed nick to hogeyui. 00:33:29 -!- hogeyui has changed nick to hogeyui_. 00:33:38 -!- hogeyui_ has changed nick to hogeyui. 00:52:20 -!- Phantom___Hoover has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 01:09:53 -!- Sorella has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:10:37 -!- shikhout has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:11:47 -!- not^v has joined. 01:34:03 -!- boily has quit (Quit: KANANPOIKA CHICKEN). 01:34:07 -!- metasepia has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 02:01:22 -!- Jafet has left. 02:07:48 -!- Jafet has joined. 02:21:23 -!- Imaginer1 has joined. 02:21:31 Hi guys 02:35:49 -!- Imaginer1 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client). 02:58:43 -!- Sorella has joined. 02:59:23 -!- Sorella has quit (Changing host). 02:59:23 -!- Sorella has joined. 03:03:47 -!- oerjan has joined. 03:11:15 -!- Sorella has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:11:35 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 03:23:53 -!- weissschloss has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:58:31 -!- zzo38 has joined. 04:02:47 -!- tromp__ has joined. 04:05:10 -!- tromp has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 04:08:41 "i think this time when we bomb the middle east it will help. i have a feeling about this one, gang. things are going to turn around now 04:08:44 RETWEETS 04:08:47 274 04:08:49 FAVORITES 04:08:52 533 04:08:54 lil swamplordCohen is a ghostKyle CapristaMichael Habeyonceaaron nanavatybender haverSteve U 04:08:57 crap 04:09:00 sorry 04:09:17 -!- tromp has joined. 04:12:23 -!- tromp__ has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 04:20:51 -!- ^4 has joined. 04:22:29 -!- not^v has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). 05:06:44 -!- ^4 has quit (Quit: http://i.imgur.com/Akc6r.gif). 05:47:00 -!- MoALTz_ has quit (Quit: Leaving). 06:15:11 Morning, chaps 06:15:48 Assuming "chaps" is gender neutral, otherwise please substitute a suitable word fulfilling the requirements 06:16:18 @wn chap 06:16:19 *** "chap" wn "WordNet (r) 3.0 (2006)" 06:16:20 chap 06:16:20 n 1: a boy or man; "that chap is your host"; "there's a fellow 06:16:20 at the door"; "he's a likable cuss"; "he's a good bloke" 06:16:20 [syn: {chap}, {fellow}, {feller}, {fella}, {lad}, {gent}, 06:16:21 [9 @more lines] 06:16:23 is "assless chaps" gender neutral? 06:16:24 Apparently not. 06:17:37 "chapless ass" would be though 06:25:07 Although with the current gender ratios of this channel, I'm afraid that a masculine term may have been appropriate :( 06:26:15 Taneb: that's nothing to be afraid of. Perhaps you should be disappointed, or ashamed with yourself for not getting a sex change to help make up the difference, but I don't understand why you'd be scared. 06:26:34 coppro: really? 06:26:51 coppro, I'm worried that the fault lies in the niceness of the channel 06:27:23 shachaf: really what? 06:27:41 Do you know what is the current gender ratios of this channel though? 06:28:05 elliott: you're not helping atm 06:31:43 Make a survey with a FORMCARD-based front-end and a SQL-based back-end, therefore the results are accessed by SQLite. 06:32:04 zzo38, what's FORMCARD? 06:34:43 A format for forms that can be filled; I know of no implementations, but it is designed to be workable whether it is done as a HTML form, or using a 3270 terminal, or printed form put into the computer manually, or a printed form with boxes to fill and then the computer scans it and automatically put into the computer (like scantron forms), or whatever else you want. 06:35:48 no, we don't need a survey for that 06:36:02 fungot, please tell us the current gender ratio of the channel 06:36:03 b_jonas: fnord maybe shoulds have slept, am laughing 06:36:22 b_jonas: I don't mean for that. 06:37:29 shouldn't we use a BANCStar backend though? 06:38:51 I suppose BANCStar could be used as a frontend operated over a telnet protocol or whatever, but it would be useful to query the results using SQL (even if it is only converted to SQL afterward; it doesn't have to be such right away). 06:40:30 I don't know if the original BANCStar implementation was designed for internet, but clearly a new one should and then you can access over telnet or SSH. 06:53:20 Here is the other questions of this channel: [1] The center of mass of everyone using this channel [2] Total number of computer programs written by people in this channel [3] Average of telephone numbers of people in this channel [4] Distribution of sun signs of people of this channel [5] The median of least favorite numbers of people of this channel 06:53:30 Probably such thing is difficult and can vary. 06:54:10 I'm writing a program that does the letter round in countdown (here's 9 letters, make the longest english word you can out of them) 06:54:35 OK 06:55:17 It is at https://github.com/Taneb/countdown/blob/master/Main.hs 06:55:35 OK, now we can see 06:56:15 You need to give it a dict file 06:56:27 (on linux these are normally in /usr/dict or /usr/share/dict 06:56:29 ) 07:02:21 OK, now I looked at this program, too 07:03:25 I haven't tried it though; I may not have a dict file, and I have old version of GHC so I don't know if it can compile 07:03:46 It depends on lens which may be problematic 07:04:16 I'd ignore the dependency bounds listed in the cabal file, though 07:04:20 What is the newest GHC version anyways? 07:05:13 there's one GHC per year 07:05:23 zzo38: 7.8.3 07:05:25 I have version 7.0.3 07:05:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper_Celebration_of_Women_in_Computing hth 07:06:14 well, there are presumably 7.9.* development versions 07:07:25 coppro: counting major versions, i assume. although 7.8 was unusually late. 07:29:50 -!- Tod-Autojoined has joined. 07:30:11 -!- TodPunk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:34:51 -!- TodPunk has joined. 07:36:12 -!- Tod-Autojoined has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 07:54:54 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: leaving). 08:19:52 -!- AnotherTest has joined. 08:45:21 Taneb: You should have a lookt at haskeline 08:45:57 mroman_, thanks, that looks useful :) 08:47:23 It gives you at least moving around with arrows (left, right) and a history (up, down) 08:47:37 instead of ^[[D ;) 08:47:49 and tabcompletion 08:49:58 -!- Patashu has joined. 08:51:35 -!- drdanmaku has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity). 09:33:02 damn ApacheDS isn't accepting my new attribute 09:33:08 it's not rejecting it either 09:33:14 it's just silently ignoring it 09:42:35 ah. but it accepts my dummy empty schema 09:42:39 well... 09:43:33 ok. so you can't import and overwrite the core-schema 09:43:34 :( 10:14:12 -!- boily has joined. 10:17:52 -!- ^v has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 10:29:45 I wrote a hideous program that prints prime numbers! 10:30:52 http://sprunge.us/STaa?c 10:33:23 -!- ^v has joined. 10:34:35 It's essentially a FORTRAN EDSL 10:36:06 tmp2.c:26:5: warning: format ‘%d’ expects argument of type ‘int’, but argument 2 has type ‘mp_bitcnt_t’ [-Wformat] 10:37:05 fizzie, should be fine 10:37:11 I hope this means they support 2^60 limbs now 10:38:28 Taneb: You're putting the "fine" back in "undefined", I see. 10:39:16 :) 10:40:36 Jafet: Sorry, "int _mp_size; /* abs(_mp_size) is the number of limbs the last field points to. */ 10:41:00 Also, that does not resemble FORTRAN. 10:41:21 The other one 10:41:23 FRACTRAN 10:41:32 Sorry 10:42:54 limbs? in a compiler??? 10:43:11 brb 10:43:11 Common in ARM compilers. 10:43:37 typedef unsigned long int mp_bitcnt_t; %d seems far from fine, it only covers the 'int' part and not the 'long', 'unsigned', or even 'typedef' 10:43:43 I wrote a PI-Calc program using gmp once 10:43:58 the overhead in loc with gmp is really high 10:44:05 (if you use C) 10:44:09 (%td is for printing typedef ints) 10:44:26 Deewiant: I guess that means you'll get about a quarter of the digits correct. 10:44:47 does GHC ship with gmp floats? 10:45:00 * boily mapoles Jafet 10:45:01 fizzie: On average, I suppose so 10:45:11 ghc ships with only enough to implement Integer. 10:47:13 printf("%tuld", x); /* why is it not working, I have all the four things in there */ 10:48:44 According to man 3 printf, the t length modifier indicates ptrdiff_t . 10:51:28 fizzie: That would probably work in this case actually, you'd just get an extra 'ld' suffix 10:52:51 I don't know what t does for u in practice, but perhaps it's the unspecified "corresponding unsigned integer type" to ptrdiff_t. 10:53:08 Anyone willing to spelunk glibc's printf to find out? 10:55:03 What's a CReal? 10:55:32 A part of a balanced BRakfast. 10:55:50 fizzie++ for a terrible pun 10:55:50 https://hackage.haskell.org/package/numbers-3000.2.0.1/docs/Data-Number-CReal.html 10:55:58 Yeah 10:55:59 fizzie-- for the same pun 10:56:08 I'm not familiar with "constructive reals" 10:56:38 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 10:57:13 -!- noconnection has joined. 10:57:28 LABEL (mod_ptrdiff_t): 10:57:30 "A tolerably efficient and possibly correct implementation --" heady praise in the headers. 10:57:30 is_long_double = sizeof (ptrdiff_t) > sizeof (unsigned long int); 10:57:32 is_long = sizeof (ptrdiff_t) > sizeof (unsigned int); 10:57:34 JUMP (*++f, step4_jumps); 10:57:51 fizzie, where's that from? 10:58:00 Taneb: The source link, https://hackage.haskell.org/package/numbers-3000.2.0.1/docs/src/Data-Number-CReal.html 10:58:20 Thanks 10:59:24 if (is_long_num) \ 10:59:26 signed_number = va_arg (ap, long int); \ 10:59:46 #if INT_MAX == LONG_MAX 10:59:48 # define is_long_num 0 10:59:50 #else 10:59:52 # define is_long_num is_long 10:59:54 #endif 10:59:56 That's the essentials, I think 10:59:59 Deewiant: Good job. 11:00:17 Is this interesting at all? https://github.com/bfabio/brainfucker 11:00:17 Although we wanted unsigned, but in that case it's 'unsigned long int' 11:01:02 Can't put both t and l in the same time, however; it keeps thinking the other one is the conversion specifier. 11:02:14 -!- boily has quit (Quit: FLIP-FLOP CHICKEN). 11:03:49 That encoder is pretty trivial. 11:04:40 I wonder if it's feasible to find brainfuck encodings using sat. 11:05:07 For the record, the "standard" (defined by "was in EgoBot") encoder can be found at http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/files/brainfuck/util/textgen.java 11:06:40 fizzie: wow, that's verbose 11:06:47 The spectrum ranges from that down to http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/brainf_cker/ probably. 11:07:13 (Found by a quick search for a brainfuck text generator, and not intended to be singled out or anything.) 11:13:53 -!- augur has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 11:17:50 -!- augur has joined. 11:41:47 Am I a monster to like high coupling? 11:42:04 i.e. instead of new LdapConnection(new LdapConnectionConfig(...)) 11:42:13 I seem to prefer new LdapConnectionConfig(..).newConnection(); 11:43:57 LdapConnection conn = LdapConnection.builder().myThing(x).myAnotherThing(y).addSuck(Integer.MAX_VALUE).build(); 11:44:36 Also called the "our language has no keyword arguments so we'll be faking them" pattern, I guess. 11:45:11 Perhaps it's slightly orthogonal to what you said, I don't know what LdapConnectionConfig looks like. 11:46:55 it has members like authId, authPw, authMethod, port and host 11:47:19 for jndi you need to put these into a Hashtable that you can feed to the DirContext constructor 11:47:41 LdapConnectionConfig creates the Hashtable (the context environment) 11:48:18 anyway, I'm pretty sure it violates coupling design principles 11:48:34 (since LdapConnectionConfig has to know LdapConnection) 11:52:04 For that sort of use, I in fact kind of like the thing I described. In detail, there'd be a nested interface LdapConnection.Config and a static method in LdapConnection to return an instance (implementation-wise, probably a private static inner class) with the default parameters, and then the Config interface would have methods to set the parameters and construct a LdapConnection. 12:02:47 The method isValid(Comparable>, Comparable>) in the type LdapAttributeValidator>> is not applicable for the arguments (R, R) 12:02:50 wooooot 12:02:57 >> looks utterly wrong 12:03:46 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 12:04:46 How did you manage to get a LdapAttributeValidator>> in the first place? 12:05:13 I don't know 12:05:17 I thought you could do it C# style 12:05:26 like public foo() 12:05:35 and then call it like foo<..>() 12:05:44 but that's apperently not the Java-way of doing it 12:05:47 *apparentely 12:06:36 The call syntax with an explicit type parameter is not quite that, but other than that that doesn't seem *far* wrong. 12:06:45 Though normally type inference is supposed to take care of it. 12:07:24 -!- ais523_ has joined. 12:07:34 bleh 12:07:53 Did you write Comparable where you wanted > perhaps? 12:08:01 Something like that, anyway. 12:08:30 I have public static > LdapAttributeValidator getValidator 12:08:52 Okay, and what was the getValidator call like? 12:08:57 and some other method with that calls it like 12:09:07 LdapAttributeValidator validator = LdapAttributeValidator.getValidator 12:09:34 but this yields: Bound mismatch: The type R is not a valid substitute for the bounded parameter > of the type LdapAttributeValidator 12:09:56 The should at least be >. 12:10:09 ah 12:10:10 yeah 12:10:16 that fixes everything 12:10:43 There are some really obscure generic-related error messages in the javac, at least some that have to do with the capture. 12:11:28 The method validateAttribute(String, String, String, R, String) in the type LdapSearch is not applicable for the arguments (String, String, Integer, String) 12:11:31 what 12:11:48 It's supposed to Replace R with the type I feed it 12:11:52 that's how generics are supposed to work :( 12:12:29 Not if the parameter counts differ. 12:12:43 String, String, String, R, String is five items; String, String, Integer, String is four. 12:12:56 oh 12:12:57 hm 12:13:04 Writing that last one made me think of the spam sketch. 12:13:25 hu 12:14:05 where the hell is that fifth argument 12:14:11 Here's a gem of a generics error: http://sprunge.us/MWQP 12:14:23 It "obviously" means that it needs to be a void cycle(Queue q) instead. (Or with a helper method like that, anyway.) 12:14:32 ah 12:14:33 there 12:14:34 :) 12:15:29 Skolem type variables, in my coffee? 12:17:08 hm. 12:19:00 whait 12:19:04 this shit isn't typed?? 12:19:57 ah really 12:19:59 ok 12:25:52 I hate it when stuff is typed but APIs only return "String" 12:25:59 i.e. SQL has types 12:26:03 but you get everything as String 12:26:07 LDAP has types 12:26:13 but you get Strings for everything :( 12:29:32 I didn't think you gor Strings out of JDBC. 12:30:46 I don't know JDBC 12:30:47 -!- noconnection has quit (Quit: Page closed). 12:31:00 but Attribut.get from JNDI gives you a string for ints 12:31:11 *Attribute 12:31:57 use a different api then 12:32:14 never! 12:35:11 -!- Sorella- has joined. 12:38:57 -!- Phantom_Hoover has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 12:53:39 -!- Sorella- has changed nick to Sorella. 12:53:41 -!- Sorella has quit (Changing host). 12:53:41 -!- Sorella has joined. 13:16:25 -!- Patashu has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 13:44:21 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:54:05 -!- conehead has joined. 14:16:03 -!- Phantom_Hoover has joined. 14:26:27 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 14:27:04 -!- conehead has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep). 14:30:39 -!- sebbu has joined. 14:31:19 -!- mihow has joined. 14:31:20 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 14:31:20 -!- sebbu has joined. 14:39:52 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 14:41:35 -!- sebbu has joined. 14:42:13 -!- sebbu has quit (Changing host). 14:42:14 -!- sebbu has joined. 14:56:14 -!- CrazyM4n has joined. 15:01:52 -!- Lymia has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 15:17:24 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 15:21:17 -!- not^v has joined. 16:01:57 -!- Sprocklem has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 16:34:16 -!- drdanmaku has joined. 17:05:42 -!- NeroReflex has joined. 17:05:47 hi 17:06:38 hi 17:09:11 Hi. Haven't been here in ages. 17:10:02 AnotherTest: I just assumed your test had finished by now 17:10:18 ais523_: I needed another one 17:11:50 Is fungot still around these days? 17:11:50 AnotherTest: that doesn't even have its own distinct posix interface and the various available dialects. scheme and calvin and hobbes score, which is normally related to the 17:12:09 :) 17:19:54 -!- zzo38 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 17:28:12 [wiki] [[Talk:Alphuck]] http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?diff=40416&oldid=40407 * Imaginer1 * (+122) 17:47:17 -!- Lymia has joined. 17:47:17 -!- Lymia has quit (Changing host). 17:47:17 -!- Lymia has joined. 17:48:09 http://www.quora.com/How-does-Googles-Botguard-work 17:52:51 some insights into the botguard script.. 18:26:44 -!- Sprocklem has joined. 19:18:42 -!- J_Arcane has quit (Quit: (set-jarcane-connect! 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